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October 03, 2019: O. J. Simpson

Today in True Crime

14:03 min | 1 year ago

October 03, 2019: O. J. Simpson

"Today is Thursday October third two thousand nineteen on this day in nineteen ninety five five forty eight year old. OJ Simpson was found not guilty of a double homicide while the matter was settled in the eyes of the law the debate over OJ's culpability continues to rage on in the court of Public Opinion Today. Hello welcome today. In true crime a podcast original every day we flip back the calendar to this day eight years ago and recount one event from true crime history due to the graphic nature of today's crimes listener discretion is advised extreme caution is advised for listeners under thirteen today. I'm covering the October Third Nineteen ninety-five acquittal of OJ Simpson on charges urges of double homicide. The world was shocked when Oj was charged with murdering his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman on June seventeenth nineteen ninety-four. OJ Simpson was a former football star and actor on television and the big screen in a true American treasure but the evidence against him was indisputable or so the prosecutors thought however on the morning wing of October Third Nineteen Ninety five the La County jury had a very different opinion court was in session after eleven long months. The people of the State of California versus Orenthal James Simpson was coming to a close at the time it was the longest jury trial in the history of California and and in a few moments it would finally be over the crowd buzzed with anticipation as Judge Lance. Ito entered the packed courtroom around around ten. Am with news cameras capturing every moment judge. Ito requested the audience refrained from reacting while the verdict was being read and with that he asked the defendant to rise and face the jury as the clerk announced his fate going into the trial the prosecution believed it would be an open and shut case just after midnight on the night of June Twelfth Nineteen Ninety four the police this had been alerted when a neighbor noticed Nicole's Akita howling by her gate. It's pristine. White fur was stained red with blood ten minutes later. The police arrived on the scene in Los Angeles upscale Brentwood neighborhood. The whimpering dog was standing over the dead bodies of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman Nicole's neck had been stabbed and then brutally slashed. Ron Ron had been stabbed over thirty times. It was ferocious sloppy work and the killer had left evidence in the form of a bloody glove and footprints from a size twelve shoe around four thirty a. m. police went to tell Nicole's ex husband. OJ O J Simpson what had happened. He wasn't home but police officer mark. Furman did find something else afford bronco its its interior covered in blood along with a companion to the glove they had discovered at the crime scene five days later. OJ They was arrested for Nicole and Ron's murders but only after a sixteen mile car chase in which an estimated ninety five million million people tuned in to watch as OJ drove his Bronco through the streets of Los Angeles at the trial the prosecution team of Marcia Russia Clark and Christopher Darden provided DNA testing showing that the blood found at the crime scene was a match for OJ's but OJ's Jays so-called Dream Team of lawyers led by Johnny Cochran Robert Kardashian and Robert Shapiro had another story when they dug into the personal history of Mark Furman the police officer who had discovered the bloody glove at O. J.'s house. The defense lawyers uncovered a sordid did past apparently during a taped interview with an aspiring screenwriter firm and had previously admitted to planting evidence to help secure convictions fictions additionally. He liberally used the N. Word Multiple Times during the interview during Firmin's Cross Examination Judge Edo allowed for this tape to be admitted into evidence therefore the defense lawyers were able to paint firm who also owned a Nazi medallion as as a white supremacist they also established a theory that Furman had planted the bloody glove at O. J.'s house. Even though they had no evidence to back this theory theory up it resonated with the jury the defense's job was to establish the seed of reasonable doubt in the jurors minds and it had taken root coming up the jury reaches its verdict and now back to the story after one hundred thirty three days of televised court proceedings nearly one hundred fifty witnesses and fifteen fifteen million dollars of taxpayers money the people of the state of California versus. Orenthal James Simpson was drawing to a close although the prosecution had a slew of evidence suggesting that OJ had killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman the defense had artfully fully established a credible amount of doubt the question was whether it was enough to persuade the jury around ten am on October Third Nineteen ninety-five Judge Lance Ito's Clerk D. Drew Robinson read the verdict we the jury in the above entitled Action Find Wind Defendant Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of murder as the verdict was read. OJ allowed himself authen smile. He mouthed the words. Thank you to the jury as his lawyer. Johnnie Cochran slapped him on the back and pumped his fist but the reaction from Nicole and Ron's loved ones was far different. Ron's is father. Fred Goldman looked up at the ceiling in pain disbelief the only sound other than Deirdre Robinson reading the verdict was of the Gulping sobs of Ron Sister Kim Goldman Ron's. Mother Patty could only shake her head and whisper. Oh My oh my God the reactions outside the courtroom were just as divided as the verdict was announced over the loudspeakers on buses traveling along Alvarado Arado avenue many of the writers broke into cheers but in the Ritzy Orange County neighborhood where Nicole and Oj's children were being cared for by their grandparents. Someone put up a sign reading. OJ Your not welcome here. The trial had become so ingrained in the national consciousness that even President Bill Clinton was compelled to release a statement. The jury heard the evidence and rendered its verdict. Our System of justice requires respect for their decision at this moment our thoughts. It's an prayers should be with the families of the victims of this terrible crime meanwhile. OJ was celebrating his newfound freedom he he returned to his Brentwood Mansion at eleven sixteen a m a little over an hour after his acquittal as he and his entourage partied late into the night it seemed like his troubles were over but the justice system wasn't finished with Oj Simpson yet although he had been declared not guilty in Criminal Court OJ faced a civil lawsuit for Nicole and Ron's murders unlike the criminal system Tom which deals with legal punishment for breaking the law civil cases deal with disputes between two parties rather than dealing out a jail sentence if if the jury in Oj's civil case ruled against him he'd be forced to pay financial compensation to the victims families in nineteen ninety eighty six OJ underwent a three month trial for the wrongful deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman unlike in his criminal trial L. O. J. was forced to testify previously he had denied that he ever wore the same kind of size twelve Bruno Mali shoes who's whose prints had been discovered at the crime scene but while he was on the stand the lawyer representing the Goldmans produced photos showing OJ wearing them on several occasions furthermore judge he Rochhi Fujisaki took great pains to prevent the same circus like atmosphere that had pervaded judge. Ito's courtroom he banned TV cameras. Put a gag order on all the lawyers and prevented the admission of any arguments without evidence ultimately. The jury ruled that Oj had wrongfully caused Nicole and Ron's deaths he was forced is to pay thirty three point five million dollars in damages to their families while it wasn't the same as putting him behind bars the ruling at least I put him into some financial difficulty and that difficulty would get Oj into even more legal trouble as the years passed. OJ's financial woes forced him to sell off his sports memorabilia but eventually he decided he wanted did everything back in September two thousand seven. OJ and several armed men held up a pair of sports memorabilia dealers is in their Las Vegas Hotel Room after getting caught for stealing items that he had previously sold Oj was charged with twelve different crimes including armed robbery and kidnapping in December two thousand eight. He was found guilty and sentenced to thirty three years in prison in July two thousand seventeen. Oj was released on parole the board that hurt his case. I voted in a unanimous four zero decision to grant him an early release. Even one of the defendants in the case went on the stand to speak in own j's defense but not everyone was happy to see him become a free man speaking to the Guardian newspaper Ron Goldman's father. Fred said what's troubling to me is not only him but the whole system give second chances to violent felons or for that matter anyone in jail. L. Ron doesn't get a second chance Fred. Goldman's comments showed how Oj Simpson's legal battles were much more than just one man facing criminal accusations regardless of what actually happened on the night of June Twelfth Nineteen Ninety four OJ Simpson's trial l. for the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman became a flashpoint for racial injustice police misconduct and a referendum referendum on the American justice system as a whole as of two thousand nineteen. Those debates continue to rage on and while they do. OJ Simpson lives as a free man. Thanks for listening to today in true crime. I'm Vanessa Richardson today. True crime is a podcast original. You can find all episodes of today in true crime and all other park asked originals for free on spotify not only does spotify already have all of your favorite music nick but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like today and true crime for free from your phone desktop or smart smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify. Just open the APP and type today in true crime in the search bar at par cast. Were grateful full for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at Park podcast network. We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in True Crime. Today true crime was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media and is part of the podcast network it is produced by Max Ron Cutler sound designed by Kerry Murphy With Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro Bureau Paul Libeskind Maggie Admire and Travis Clark. This episode of today and true crime was written by Alex Benetton. I'm Vanessa Richardson.

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March Madness: The O.J. Simpson Civil Trial

Sports Criminals

06:20 min | 1 year ago

March Madness: The O.J. Simpson Civil Trial

"This is sports. Criminals March madness special each day in March. We're counting down the top thirty one sports scandals of the past thirty one years in today's episode. We GO BACK TO THE YEAR. Nineteen ninety-seven most people remember. Oj Simpson's criminal trial where he was acquitted onto counts of murder but he also had another trial two years later. If you enjoyed the episode be sure to come back tomorrow for more shocking sports events from history on our March Madness. Special as always you can listen free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Millions of viewers had gathered for the main event nearly nine out of ten households in Los Angeles tuned in cameras bobbed and weaved capturing every move every triumph and defeat as the competition drew a close. The victors cheered and pump their fists in the air. The losers comforted each other promising. Next time we'll come out on top. The lines weren't drawn between fans of competing sports teams. The country was split between those who believed football star. Oj Simpson was a murderer. Those who insisted he was innocent now on Tuesday February fourth nineteen ninety-seven. Oj stood trial a second time. This time in civil court once again he tried to dodge charges and rush past prosecutorial traps. If he failed it could cost him his home his wealth his reputation everything. Welcome to sports criminals. A podcast. Original this is the eighth episode in our March Madness. Special this month were counting down the top thirty one sports scandals from Nineteen Ninety to two thousand twenty on Roy. And I'm Tim Johnson in today's episode. We're going back to nineteen ninety seven to explore the civil suit against O. J. Simpson for the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. Even before he was mired in scandaled. Oj Simpson was a household name. He spent eleven years in the NFL. In one thousand nine seventy three. He became the first to rush for two thousand yards in a single season. Something only seven footballers have ever done in the history of the sport and Oj came agonisingly close tying his own record falling less than two hundred yards short in one thousand nine hundred eighty five that season. He scored sixteen touchdowns and secured his reputation as God. Thirty two year old. Oj retired in nineteen seventy nine but his star still shone brightly. He was inducted into the NFL. Hall of fame in Nineteen Eighty Five and leveraged his popularity and fame into a lucrative sports casting GIG and movie stardom but everything changed in the early morning hours of June thirteenth. Nineteen ninety four shortly after midnight. Investigators arrived at the home of. Oj's ex wife Nicole Brown Simpson. She was found dead along side. Her friend Ronald Goldman police immediately focused on Oj. He had a history of domestic abuse and investigators found a suspiciously bloodied glove enclose on his estate. Four days later the Los Angeles Police Department charged. Oj With the double homicide but the superstar couldn't be brought down that easily. He assembled a Dream Team of lawyers. Who deftly deflected the prosecution's arguments for the of? Oj's nine months trial. Thanks to their decisive work on October. Third Nineteen ninety-five. Oj was acquitted of both murder charges. Roughly a quarter of the country celebrated those who believed he was innocent but the rest of the nation was convinced who was guilty and that included the families of Nicole Brown Simpson. And Ron Goldman in January nineteen ninety-seven. They filed a civil suit against O. J. Simpson. They couldn't send him to jail but they could sue him for all he was worth. This trial played out very differently from the first OJ. Had A new team of attorneys cameras. Weren't allowed in. The courtroom. Plaintiff introduced new evidence including proof that he owned a rare pair of shoes that match the footprints found at the crime scene. Ultimately the jury found in the plaintiff's favor this time and ruled OJ criminally negligent. He was sentenced to pay the victims families. Thirty three point five million dollars the equivalent of nearly fifty five million dollars today. The verdict virtually bankrupted him though even as recently as two thousand seventeen the family's claim they have received only a small percentage of the settlement money. Oj Simpson's to murder hearings. Were highly publicized highly controversial. There's a reason the criminal proceedings were dubbed the trial of the century. The car chase leading to his arrest was the fourteenth most watched event in television history and his verdict was the most viewed with as many as one hundred forty two million people tuning in as a pro athlete. Oj was used to the attention and oppress but these trials were different. There wasn't a title or a championship on the line was his freedom his reputation and his cash like any football star. Oj navigated the field of the courtroom as best. He could scaping criminal charges before he was sacked in the plaintiffs brilliant play. Thanks for listening to sports. Criminals March madness will be back tomorrow with next year scandal. You can catch our other episodes of sports criminals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Deep Dive: Nancy Grace's "Objection!" (Week 1)

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43:24 min | 1 year ago

Deep Dive: Nancy Grace's "Objection!" (Week 1)

"Yeah I was thinking. I should write like fan fiction about like her Miami. Starting a wizard innocence project that ever being a to her the way they were about her house, L. Liberation Project. Welcome to Iran about the true crime podcast that tries to focus on the true part more than the Crime Bartsch. Has that I would say that we're a true crime. podcast focused on the impossibility of ever knowing the truth about anything. Determines how the crime part, but we? We have our own approach to this I was trying to say something that sounded pithy cute, but it didn't have to be accurate I think you're taking the opposite approach. Oh No! Episode is all about that So. I Michael Hobbs I'm reporter for the Huffington Post. I Sarah Marshall. I am working on a book about the Satanic Panic and you can support the show on. And on pay pal, or you can buy a t shirt, or you can not do any of those things and donate to other stuff. We still love you. Yes, and today. We're talking about Nancy Grace. I'm nervous, yeah! First of all I don't WanNa be Wrong Nancy Grace. Grace has done harm to the country, and I'm not ready to give that up and I'm afraid that you're GonNa make me feel complicated about her I. Don't know that's not really my goal here to try and facilitate empathy for Nancy. Grace and I feel like I approach to whatever subject we have is dictated by like the kind of run. They've had to this point. And like Nancy. Grace has been in charge you her narrative in a way that very few women are. She has been on TV for hours every week your for years. She has helped define what her crime media is in this country s and her view of things has found a lot of purchase an American media. She has not been unheard or unless and to her. He is unable to make her point of view extremely clear and so it is not my job to help her do that. Thank God. Utter jobs today, but yet we're talking about her book. One of her books. She has a few bucks, but the one that we are talking about is called objection. Exclamation point which I don't know about you. WanNa. Title has an exclamation point in it I assume it's a musical i. know or like a Flash Gordon serial. Objection how high priced defense attorneys, celebrity defendants and a twenty four seven media have hijacked our criminal justice system. No To me. The most interesting thing about that title is that it implies correctly that Nancy. Grace is throughout this book in a way. She doesn't seem to notice. Arguing against her own job. I. Know. What is your? Nancy Grace, so my understanding of Nancy Grace which is probably totally wrong is that she is a former prosecutor who rose to prominence during. The O. J. Simpson trial, and then she has parlayed that into a journalistic true crime entertainment, swirling smoothie of a career where over I mean I. Don't know if he was always like this has happened her over time, but I'm most familiar with her as someone who like goes after the sort of you know criminals getting away with it. Yeah, that's what I associate with her. She's always wanting harsher punishments, more police powers. She's very skeptical of criminals in a way that she. She is not skeptical of the criminal justice. System, What's interesting actually is that I would dispute what you're saying because I think that she sees herself and others see her as like this great defender of the legal system, which is really not because she does not give a shit about due process. Right so this book objection like not despoil too much, but we're GONNA get into many moments in many arguments where he's basically, she's like and then this defense lawyer defended their client. that's. Cereal some like you know perfectly well as a former prosecutor that both sides have to be working and like. Actually kind of anti-legal system. She's a nihilist. She's technically ANTIFA. But. I, don't actually know were commenting on the OJ. Simpson trial, see I could have completely made that up. I thought that that's where she came from, but she she that I might be missing her up with somebody else, but yeah, she has been on TV since nineteen ninety six. She is on TV still. She has a daily true crime radio show daily and she has a new book. Coming out in September called. Don't be a victim colon fighting back against America's Crimewave, which is a fascinating title because America's crime rates have been steadily falling for thirty years. Yeah, that's really shameless and so I mean. Do you know which? Is, kind of like her her big case. No Casey, Anthony Oh. This is one that we need to do. Because I've been saying completely. Free I literally no nothing about this case. This was a case where a young woman in Florida was accused of killing her daughter, who was a toddler, and was in the end found not guilty, and the verdict that I think the majority of the American public disagreed with she like she really looked bad. The trial made her look bad, okay, but also the jury found her not guilty, and because rare that that happens in a high profile trial. And so Nancy grace had been kind of leading the charge and the media's. Crusade of you know Casey. Anthony is a monster and she called her tot mom. This is like one of the things. He became notorious for its way. Yeah she's like a walking talking tabloid headlines and called Casey Anthony. Tot Mom man, so here's what Nancy Grace said about where tot mom came from. This is from an interview. She did with Bill. O'Reilly. She says when I in law school I would often cases that I would have to memorize hundreds and hundreds sometimes thousands of pages of legal documents for class, and it was easier for me to remember a case by the content of the case, not the name, so I would naming case by the content in this case I needed content that would fit at the bottom of the screens were viewer would know. Know, what we were talking about and tot mom fit. It was nothing personal. Sure I to me the point of illegal system in the way the media works around it is the public is already going to be pretty poisoned by the presumption of guilt. Yes, the so it seems really counter to the ideals of justice to have a media that enthusiastically encouraged his thumb to travel even farther in that direction. Especially, if that particular media person is a former prosecutor like what the goals of the system. Are Host to be bright, so I guess what I find most interesting about Nancy grace is that I started researching her a couple of years ago and I. Remember suggesting her is a showing your like. Is there really a story there? But. There's. Never GonNa go through it like a few minutes. Before we started recording today, I had this moment of realization I was like Oh, I got it now chancy. Grace's my shadow so God. Rate? because. You contain always a little bit of your opposite, and I feel like. Inevitably I understand her like I understand why someone would want so badly to be a crusader for good and her Casta some part of me wants. That, to of course I feel that. Of course I want that gone about it in a different way and try to go on many ego-trips, but I still have them right so like Nancy Grace's Lake Mykhailo Ren Bright Yeah. It's like Sarah Marshall anti-matter. Great Yeah. My Interest Nancy grace at this moment, and maybe let's come into her book. Let's dive in I'm so excited. Hey, does she in the book to she? Go through a case by case, or is it a memoir? Like what is this actual book? It has some more stuff in it, but it's really kind of. It's a polemic okay, and as a polemic honest I've heard the title, which once again is objection how high priced defense attorneys, celebrity defendants and twenty four seven media have hijacked our criminal justice system by Nancy grace with Diane claim, so the criminal justice system has been hijacked. It's been taken away and turned into this thing that is not working I guess yeah. Mansi grace's standing up and saying Oh Jackson. I love Halloween clubs like I'll take a nice book that people will enjoy and I'm like I'm going to pick a terrible book. This is kind of a long opening scene, but this is really her whole genesis story I love those. Who are yesterday sitting on the steps of my family's Home Georgia August, it was so still in hot and soundless nothing moved not a breeze, not the sign of a burden, not a single movement to be heard or felt. The heat was so intense as if I could actually hear it rising up off the dirt invisible waves. This makes me feel like Nancy. Grace wants her life story to be made in like to kill a mockingbird. Tape movie about a little girl in the deep South who grows up wanting to convict everyone? A few weeks before my fiance had been murdered Holy Shit Keith was shot five times in his beautiful face and back only it was only a few months until our wedding, but the gunman couldn't wait. Violence doesn't acknowledge weddings and anniversaries, birthdays and celebrations. Random violence entered my world. The. World I grew up and didn't know. Violence or hatred chimes in the Methodist Churches steeple literally called everyone home at six o'clock with him. God will take care of you. And his eyes on the sparrow. My only encounters with violence and evil came through fleeting glimpses on the evening news at supper time all the horry seems so far far away and my world. There was nothing as far as the I could see. Tall pine trees and soybean fields, orchards, and rows and rows of corn and Cotton Tomiko I hear murmurings. Tell me about that I mean I'm like struggling not to interrupt you like. It's all this stuff that we always talk about like this fake juxtaposition between sort of the criminal element outside of her life, and then this beautiful crystal, fragile perfect life inside. You can really feel the ghost rating in this canyon you you can feel the national writer who knows how to start with Blake, a strong image, a strong contrast. Before you were innocent, and you lived in a railed peaches and God and now your fiance has been gunned down I. Mean with that makes me think about that. Plus the kind of prosecutor she became is like. Why do we have someone who becomes a prosecutor because they're shocked by the existence of violence, relatively late in life, and then decide to stop it finding the people who do violence and putting them. them away for as long as possible like. That's not really a reasonable approach to violence. It doesn't seem to decrease it. It threat make anyone's life better in the long run right and this feeling of like criminal took my life from me, which is like a vengeful way of framing this? Yeah, you know and people are entitled to their feelings of revenge, but like maybe not once they become public servants, yes. Okay Heats world had ended and mine had exploded. I remember trying to go back to classes, couldn't. The thought of sitting inside the four walls of a quiet college room studying Shakespearean literature. Once my joy was now like a heavy noose around my neck I knew I could never go back to the world as I knew it, wife, mother and schoolteacher, it was not meant to be I love Nancy grace once wanted to teach shakespeare. She would've been a great college lecturer actually like Imagine Nance. Teaching a class on King Lear. Pass it what you want with lady. She's a good talker. And Nancy Grace continues. Escaped the vacuum the only way I could. I did eventually go back to school to law school. I knew the law would be my sword and my shield. I had to be ready when the time came and did. Seven years after kice murder I tried my first jury trial at that moment and that Atlanta courtroom I took to the fight like a fish to water in trying to cure. The injustice heaped on other victims of violent crime I was cured Oh for the next ten years I fought in the pit and felony courtrooms, and what was then the murder capital of the country inner city. Atlanta, the battle consumed me. Every case was 'cause I could take up because every case represented of victim wrong God. That's my. That's the end. End of my opening excerpt I mean she's really describing like what she considers to be a crusade. Yes, due to her extremely understandable emotional distress at the murder of her partner, she's now sort of using that as like a quilt to put over all of the other cases that she looks at like taking her since vengeance and trying to apply it to criminality as a whole. Yeah, what Nancy? Grace most certainly appears to want is some form of retribution. Do we know anything about the circumstances of her husband's death? Her fiancee's. and yes, we do let me jump to a place in the book where she talks about that, so this is from chapter one. Defense attorneys and other Wiley characters. I Have Known Nancy, writes my deep seated ethical problem with defense attorneys, likely traces back to my being a witness in Keith's murder trial. The whole thing has always been big Blerta me, but I do distinctly remember going to the courthouse as a witness, the cavernous courtroom reminded me of the one and to kill Mockingbird, the witness stand with several feet, high directly below and in front of me sad that offended and his lawyer. The defendant never looked me in the face. He never could bring. His is up to meet mine. I didn't know it at the time, but that must have been when I began to formulate my theory on the importance of what I call behavioral evidence behavior that is so disturbing, so abnormal are curious at logically points either guilt or pangs of conscience. No, if I had been on trial for the murder of another's loved one, I would scream out. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. Please believe me I will never hurt you, but the defendant did nothing remotely like that. He slipped away, avoiding my eyes. Because he knew he had murdered someone and looking at me and the rest of Keith's family, he had to realize the incredible pain. He had caused all over a wallet with thirty five dollars in it. There was no cross examination that I recall. It was over I guess slowly stood up and made my way down the stops and out of the courtroom. No one said a word and as I passed the defense table I slowed down and look at him. He never looked at me. Even the defense attorney looked away her me. This is like the logic of child. This guy probably did it completely understandable for her to have this deep infinite sense of anger at the person who took her fiance away from her. That is completely understandable, but what's frustrating is like she's literally stealing this to the worst kind of evidentiary analysis, because this is something here all the time like Nancy Grace has not by any means alone here and being like he wouldn't look at me, or he just seemed guilty he. Behaved in a way that made it clear. He was guilty of the specific crime like you hear about all the time, right? This is the logic of like fucking sandy hook conspiracy theory videos where they show footage of these grieving parents and they're like. Oh, they must be actors because they told a joke. The fact that he couldn't look at her is interesting, but like I can imagine somebody being innocent and also not looking at the person. Well. Listen one of the things that our friend of the show Lara. Basilan has told me is that if you are defending someone who is accused of committing some terrible crime, and if a victim or presumably a victim's relative is testifying the last thing you want them to do is look. At the victim or the relative? Yeah, because if they thank you, not looking at them means that you feel guilty than they will thank you. Looking at them means that you are gloating bright. You were trying to intimidate them, and it's interesting, too. Because like most defendants don't testify her own trials because that makes them vulnerable to cross examination. So, you've got you know the these trials where everyone is articulate, but the person he's accused of the crime. It's very weird. Yeah, it's also not an argument against defense lawyers, because it sounds like the defense lawyer didn't cross. Examine her like it doesn't sound like the defense lawyer. Did anything bad there? So it's weird that this is like bolstering defense lawyer was sitting there yeah. Yeah Yeah. It's very interesting. She's like my enmity for the defense. Attorneys goes back to my experience having one in my sight line right? My favorite part of this however is the part where Nancy rates, if I had been on trial for the murder of another's loved one. I would scream out I. didn't do it I didn't do it. Please believe me I would never hurt you. So I know this is like the most ridiculous question, but like why am I like why? Not Do that. First of all that can also make somebody look guilty, because doth protest too much, and also like this is why we have representatives of the justice system like this is literally the purpose of the justice system is that we don't just have whoever screams the loudest we believe, or whoever seems the realist gets the verdict they want like. How can a lawyer possibly say this other? Nancy grazes Korea's based on being the loudest so true. Yes, so are the circumstances of Keith death that it would just like a botched robbery kind of thing, so I'm going to read you a bit term another source. In this article that came out and the observer like fifteen years ago. By Rebecca, Dana, this called did Nancy. Grace TV Crime Buster, muddy her myth, every crimefighting superhero has a creation story Nancy Grace. The prosecutor turned breakout. Star at CNN headline news has a particularly moving one as she tells it in the summer of nineteen eighty, she was a nineteen year old college student in Small Town Georgia engaged to Keith Griffin then one August morning, a stranger, a twenty four year, old thug with a history of being on the wrong side of the law a Griffin outside a convenience store. He shot him five times in the head and back still thirty five dollars from his wallet and left him dead. Police soon track down the killer and a new phase of suffering began from his grace, the suspect brazenly denied any involvement at trial. Ms Grace testified, then waited his carry deliberations dragged on for three days. The district attorney asked her if she wanted the death penalty, and in a moment of youthful weakness, she said No. The verdict came back guilty life in prison. And a string of appeals and sued because of what happened in Georgia, His grace has said over and over. She knows firsthand how the system is hardened criminals over victims. It is the foundation of her judicial philosophy. Her motivation life her Casas Fellay, and much of it isn't true Nancy grace was engaged to a man named Keith Griffin. He was murdered in Georgia and the man who killed him is serving a life sentence in that MS graces version lines up with the official records from New York Bureau of Investigations newspaper articles from the time of the murder and interviews with many of those involved in the case, but the same sources contradict Ms Grace when it comes to other salient facts of the crime and the trial and then here's the contradictions. Griffin was shot not by a random robbery, but by a former coworker. The killer Tommy McCoy was nineteen, not twenty four, and had no prior convictions. Mr McCoy confessed to the crime the evening he was arrested. The jury convicted him in a matter of hours not days. Prosecutors asked for the death penalty, but didn't get it because Mr. McCoy was mildly intellectually disabled when my God Mr McCoy never had an appeal, he filed a habeas application five years ago, and after hearing, it was rejected the justice system in other words apparently worked the way it was supposed to in an emotional fun of you ranking over the inconsistencies in her account. Ms Grey said I have not researched defendant. I have tried not to think about it loo-. I mean this is one of those things that under any other circumstances would just be like a sad human story that just like this awful thing happened to her, and in her mind over time she ends up telling the story in various different ways and kind of twisting it to suit opinions that she holds about the justice system, which is something we all do like it. It's human thing especially in something. That's just this like earthquake of emotion that comes along with. With losing a loved one, so that's completely like everything that's happening with her is understandable until you start making it like a foundation for actual policy changes and actual sort of twisting other people's opinions about the criminal justice system. I mean the fact that she's casting as some sort of injustice, a man who killed another person and did a life sentence. Yeah, it's like the system did everything it claimed to do, but I didn't get chopped nuts on my Sunday, right? Interesting do that like that. The jury deliberating her longtime is supposed to be bad for victims, and you're like Nancy I realized that like if that had happened which it didn't, but if it had that, that would have been difficult for you to live in that suspense, but like if you are a defendant and a curious deciding whether you're going to go to Krizner. Krizner, not it's slake kind of ideal for them to talk about it for more than a couple of hours. Yeah, like every one of these decisions can't be dictated by your emotional means. Yeah, I mean people that turned their sort of like. They're real sense of agreement into anger at the justice system like women who were sexually assaulted and who got treated like. Cops and then sort of go on this crusade about how like there should be longer sentences for rapists that to me. Make some sort of sense because there really is an injustice at the heart of that, even if I think the response to it is disproportionate, but in this one it's like what are you mad about? Nancy right I mean. She's really like the patron saint of Karen's I. Just about to say the original Karen Right. It's like it's like so Nancy. You're telling me that like your fiance was murdered. The police swiftly identified and the legal system swiftly convicted the intellectually disabled Guy Teenager who had done it. And they convicted him in like less than a whole day of deliberations, and he never filed any appeals, and it never looked like he was gonna get out of prison. What are you unhappy with? What did he want? But Sarah, he didn't look at her so. He didn't stand up and shout about how he was. Innocent should have the net. She would have written a much longer anecdote in her book about how that made by guilty. It's like the Guy I dated that used to yell at Uber Drivers when we were stuck in traffic. Oh, it's like I. Get that you're mad that we're now going to be late. Late to this thing, but like you can't blame this person for what Seattle is exactly like you're mad at the situation, but you're applying that to like whatever person is nearby. Yeah, and I guess according to Nancy Grace Lake the defense becomes the problem, so it's interesting because she thinks he's presenting the slakes Superhero Oregon story as like. My planet was destroy. Raised by farmers. Look. Listen you're like you're actually a super villain. This is actually a super villain story, because it's a story about you responding with irrational disproportionate nece, fresh something that you experienced and unlike basing your whole identity around avenging this perceived injustice. Sing the aspects of the crime, but she changes are very interesting, and then the actual story of the crime to me is maybe the most interesting change that she makes because evidently the nineteen year old who killed her fiance Keith. Did so because he had been fired and blamed Keith for it. And, so he came in and shot. Keith, it's sort of I mean it's sort of like what Nancy Grace's doing. It's like a bad situation wall that. Then blaming on this one individual. You went there a. Who right like something went terribly wrong and. You take it out on one person. That's I mean that's again though I mean, the structural incentives are always toward emphasizing the stranger danger aspect of things rather than like the completely every day. Thing of a dispute between two people escalates to this place that is totally absurd, which is a much more common story. Yeah, we're just like someone who you didn't even know. You were potentially having a dispute with Blake decides to develop a grudge about you and yeah. Yeah Salako stuff that she changes. Makes it a crime. That's like emblematic of the kind of crime. She is attempting to be tough on where it's like put people in prison sooner and for less of a reason, and also like the idea like someone who's who's killing someone for the small amount of money in their wallet. Like you hear that rhetoric, all time gets true. It's like his victims. Life was only worth. Thirteen dollars him, and it's like okay. It's not as if this person is sitting around thinking about how they value human life, and how they're willing to murder someone thirteen dollars. It's like armed robberies that end in murder or escalate into murder, or like not planned events, but anyway, so the so the fact that the Nancy grace crime in her head kind of evolves into like my fiance was killed her thirty five dollars, which is all his life was worth like McCoy apparently did take money out of his wallet, but it was less money than that. I don't know why she passed up that storytelling opportunity, but it makes it into something like it wasn't about this. Disproportionate sense of revenge or feeling personally wronged or something I mean it's interesting to me that she is shaping her own life. Quite possibly not at all consciously to align with like the kinds of crimes that it has become her job. To prosecute total end to. Talk loudly about right because the the purpose of stranger danger killings is making. You feel scared because it could happen to you. This is one of the reasons why human traffic every single human trafficking poster you've ever seen says it happens everywhere. It could happen to anyone. It's all around us. It's this idea that like you're a potential victim. Yeah, and so this is why you don't ever WanNa emphasize the interpersonal nature of these kinds of crimes of like it was a really messy divorce, and this person had a history of mental illness, and so they kidnap their own children and Cross. State lines you never want to. To tell that story, because then it's like well then there's like people at higher risk of this, and there's actually things we can do for those populations. No, you want to emphasize the total randomness of it. Because then there's nothing we can do other than punish. Yeah, and also by definition, her audience are people who she can presume to share her fear, which is to be like the sudden victim of stranger, danger and wis, and what doesn't occur to her I. Don't think that there are a lot of other people who far more reasonably are afraid of at any moment becoming a victim of legal system, right, yeah! You WanNa. Hear some more Nancy Grace Book. Yes, okay. This is back to her reduction and her description of her time as a prosecutor, he says guilty pleas caused me great personal turmoil. How is to discern if today's shoplifter would become tomorrow's armed robber? Nice? I quickly gained a reputation for being unreasonable, negotiating cleese and vicious trial in care. The battle was all that mattered. It is of those years that I am the proudest I made next to nothing, but the reward to my heart and soul was priceless. I had the opportunity to be the voice of those who have no voice, most often women, children and minorities. Oh my God relooked and never heard in our system. I learned what they don't teach you in law school, but the constitution protects the accused blanketing them and safeguarding bear quote, rights victims have no voice, no face and no recourse super good sign when people put the word writes in air quotes. Yes the constitution blankets and safeguards the rights of defendants I love that she uses the word blanketing and makes me think that her mental Emig with thinkers accurate is that the constitution is like it takes Alba, criminals and puts a big blanket. You know around big Afghan around their shoulders midway. Cuddle up, Sweetie, AH I! Don't think it does that also. It's pretty incredible. Look about the country and be like the criminal justice system is way too easy on people and we're and this book kind of. Long form that argument and one of the things that I find both dismaying and heartening is that it is like really cherry picking stuff like in the argue that are like defense. Attorneys are bad. It's like this one defense attorney was sort of jocular with the media one time and it's Ling- okay. Right it's like I mean it has the same structure as every single like campus. Free speech policing is out of control story where it's like. Did you know that a nineteen year old at Oberlin said something stupid about a sandwich. And you're right. Okay? Yeah, so your point is that we shouldn't have liberal arts in colleges anymore. What? Who's thing because like the position that the criminal justice system is too soft on. Criminals will always be able to be robust, even as long as we don't have the death penalty in every single state. Has There are really a lot of people in this country whose views of how the system should function are so punitive but like. You know that's could. Be a significant part of the population I. Don't know what my point was for bad except that it makes me sad, but you're right. I agree. Yes, also me. I'm Oh this white. Have a clipper, you. Oh, this is a walk. A couple of minutes at this is a news story when she was still a prosecutor. With nineties hair, ooh, and it talks about her as a lawyer and her nickname amazing grace. That's actually pretty good nickname to be sure it is, and also Greece's her actual last name, which I was very surprised by. She should have changed to Nancy vengeance. More on brand. Okay so I guess that to you. Go when you're ready three two one. Oh there she is while her shot. He's putting some hairspray on. She looks so different. Yeah, what's she doing? She's like shouting in court and like throwing things around killers, rapist pimps punks. She's put them all away. She sounds like a beauty, queen or something. She has a great southern accent and voice. She sounds much flinty. She does now. She was much more soft-spoken back then next in the media, we found from for Rian suits. Who Say I believe in redemption. I'm just not concerned with a nice a new breed of women tackling America's Crimewave, avenging angels who'd rather bus? Bad guys than big B.'s defending them oh no! Vo She has A. To- on. So. She's prosecuting guy who killed his wife or may have killed his wife. Allegedly Mike allegedly look that hair. I Guess I. Love This SLA amazing I gotTa admit she's very likable. Right or is it going to the details of this case? Where like it looks pretty clear that the do, did it. His wife was about to leave him. His wife had a thump on the head when they found the body. Enfield's link watching C. Carter on designing women. Yes, the defendant left a track a mile wide. There's the guy in court. Do you think the states? Heart is stone? She is like Blanche Dubois in community theater level. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and see something. Even I with my naked untrained. As he noticed that her accent really fluctuate. It's really interesting. Actually. Yeah, she housing, surer accents and talking to CNN accent around. She's now she's getting emotional. Talking about how the victim had been punched and slapped by this guy. It does seem like the Guy Sucks. I mean she's pretty convincing. Yes, based on the literally forty five seconds. About it. It seems like a strong case for the prosecution. This segment is manipulating the in exactly the way that she is manipulating the jury. It's working. Oh, another doing her origin story about Keith Getting Killed Oh. It's Keith was gunned down by criminal on parole which it sounds like he's in true, which we know is not true. If he had still been in jail, this never would have happened. She say this with total conviction like I think this. Believes this why she you know she may be was told that he had been in trouble. Just kind of in town and some general way, and over time that grows into something else in your brain. It feels true. It's worth doing the segment. Why is this newsworthy? Lady Prosecutor. That's the news. They're like lady prosecutors. Yeah, they're like. Did you know that that there's a place for women in lawyering? Guilty verdict of the dude for Atlanta's star Deputy District Attorney. It's another big win. Wow, okay, so now. You've had kind of a dose of her. Tell me about your experience. Primetime Nancy Grace. Yet I had assumed that she had kind of always been talking head, or like the way that she came to be known by US Joe Engineer in Q. Driveway. Commenting on the J Simpson trial, but it sounds like she actually was a media darling as a prosecutor, necessarily as a commentator and so CNN, or whoever plucked her out of obscurity and sort of doing these stories on like the lady, prosecutor, and then she. Rose to prominence that way as this moral crusade that she was on him, and somebody eventually offer her TV deal. Well I don't know how well she was known as a prosecutor, but. I do think that like telegenic lady prosecutors were. Sought after media commodity in the nineties. Yeah, and she's very charming like, can you? Can you talk about her charm in this a little bit? I mean she's got the whole like Clarence Darrow like now. I'm I'm not some fancy lawyers than in front of you. Kinda like snapping your suspenders. A little bit I'm just a deputy district. I'm just someone who does this for a living quickest. Yeah, but like making yourself personable making kind of a personal appeal, a personal appeal to the jury decency, but I would say before we got back into her book that like what I find compelling about her in this footage, and I feel kind of like less of as she's gotten like more and more angry. This sort of focused on a larger audience on her shows now which I really relate to in this early footed, especially as just the fact that lay. She is clearly so sure of her conclusions. Yeah, and there's something charismatic about Bat. We are drawn to that as people and yeah, it's were. Noticing in ourselves and noticing kissed the charisma of people who are sure what they're doing with their lives. Or who act that way, right? There's a reason why a con man. The full word of that is confidence man, and what I learned when I was interviewing investigators of white collar. Crimes is one thing that links a lot of white collar crime. Is this like brazen confidence of just describing straight up pyramid scheme with this incredible one hundred percent certainty that it's GonNa work out, and it's a really good way to deceive people is to have this overconfidence. Is a great way to get on TV, too might be the best way. Yeah, and speaking of that. Here's the next thing Nancy. Talks about in her book. Might transition from a courtroom in Atlanta to New, York City television studio was fight happenstance while serving as a special prosecutor in Atlanta I was called to sit on a panel of legal experts in the hall of Justice in the city will still prosecuting in Atlanta I happened to be seated between two renowned defense attorneys Johnny Cochran Straight off the Oj Simpson case and Roy black straight off a victory in the William Kennedy. Smith rape case naturally. We got into a huge fight several months later, the elected district attorney in Atlanta. My boss decided to retire I was devastated, not only. Only Mr Slayton given me the chance to become a trial lawyer at a time when very few women in the south for litigating in courtrooms. He was like a grandfather to me. I didn't know what I would do. I hadn't gone to law school to handle slip and falls, argue whiplash car accidents for haggle over contracts I wanted justice for crime victims I considered public service with the battered women sent her, but then the founder courtroom television network Steve Brill flew to Atlanta and asked me face to face. Join his new experiment co anchoring illegal talk show with Johnny Cochran. I deeply disagreed with the Simpson defense, and with the option of high priced defense work looming I wanted to take Cochran on. I took off for New York shortly after Miss Slayton served out his office and nineteen. Ninety seven I arrived in New, York City with two boxes of clothes, a curling iron and two hundred dollars in my saving account, even now all these years later while sitting in a dark, sat staring into the Camera Lens I wonder if I should go back to the courtroom to battle adversaries who trick lady justice what I. Just as I was led to the airwaves, I know God will lead me to my next battle. I mean whatever Nancy why. I don't I don't know why she's pretending fit like. When she moved to New, York to be a television personality, it was like writing island like nothing in my pocket. I find this moment really funny. Because like the Standard Blake I started from nothing. I'm happy thing, but it's like she's thirty seven years old, and she's been a prosecutor for years, and so it's like Nancy. She's been like a middle-class professional. It's fine, it's. But you have so little saving. Spending I'm like why build up this, and also she's also doing the thing that I think women are like condition to do is like this huge leap upward in my career was like just a coincidence, and it had nothing to do with ambition and I think probably she's pretty ambitious, and that's fine. Yes, well, this is a classic thing whenever women are called to account for their achievements flake, you have to somehow in order to remain likable suggests that like you didn't get where you are by working really hard and being's rage about it and you have to blame your. Your success on someone else like God. Yeah, she probably like was getting more media attention and she thought this could be a a second or a better or more lucrative. Who Cares career for me and like? Yes, people do this all the time or maybe I WANNA. Get outta lawyering us. And she probably like whatever sold her house in Atlanta, and like bought a new house when she moved. It's probably like she didn't show up there like rose getting off the titanic I. Don't Know Why we need this myth. No, my two hundred dollars and it was nineteen ninety seven. It's fine. She says her savings account. He doesn't see her shopping. Obviously fake because Nancy like you can make stuff up. That seems reasonable, or that makes sense, but it's like it's like the part in the autobiography of Benjamin Franklin where he's like. I don't drink beer because it's expensive. Trish in. Serves no real purpose and it's like Okay Ben Franklin right? Of stuff you can lie about the lake. Draw a line somewhere that everything has to match the myth that you're trying to build here. Okay. Let's got the. We have one more rich page. Isn't this fun got so fun? This is what I know. There's a very real struggle going on in our world today, the age old struggle between good and evil. Maybe it sounds simplistic, but it is true nevertheless man I find my sharpest sword to be the true and I use it whenever I can this very funny statement. We'll get much more into this later, but one of her main functions apparently is to inject half truths and confusion into the record, as the story is developing, which then makes them harder to remove right? I think she's speaking sincerely here. I think that her own emotional truth is the story that she is wheeled. Yeah, yeah, when the sorrow the frustration the moments with Keith her ever. Ever lost resurface my responses to fight. Herein is the truth as I see it I'm on the inside of the struggle for justice. Calling out all who will listen, this is what I see in what I know regardless of whether it is politically incorrect or disturbing or tastes bitter, going down battle of good against evil is real and palpable, and is being waged in your local courthouse. And what's funny is that I totally agree with that last paragraph. It's just we are different sides. ooh, yes, meeting this anti-matter. So yes, I am very excited to continue this book and basically to go through the arguments that Nancy is putting forth in it and just meet them. On their own terms and explore the charisma of the Crusader role I think that's a very important theme and in our world today. And I am looking forward to next episode when you will be wearing a bow and speaking with an accent. I'm telling you true is I can hear with my own naked ear.

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Episode 475 - A Sound of Thunder

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Episode 475 - A Sound of Thunder

"This is a head gamut pass on this week's episode. Wow it's like oh barely a movie. It's a sound of thunder. I'm Andrew dupin Steven Bradbury. Eric Chris Gavin and we hate movies. Hello everyone welcome to. We hate movies. Thank you tuning in as always listener quest month continues as we talk about something that I'm certain should not have been Released it all. It is a sound of thunder from two thousand and five directed by Peter. I am who I believe. Were going for the four-pete here. Oh yeah director of previous episodes stay tuned end of days and time COP Welcome to the four timers club. Peter I know he started. Oj Made in America. That's not the BEST FRIEND OF O. J. Simpson is amazing. He is he still buds or the ninety two things get a little cool in the nine. He has one of the best parts of movie. Where like some? He's like so this guy comes up to me and he me you know. Oj killed his wife. And you're like are you telling me? Oj killed his wife and he's like yeah telling you killed his wife. I felt so portrayed out so portrayed in that moment. Oj. Didn't tell them first. It's amazing it's wants. You had like a huge party and you didn't invite me. I would feel very betrayed and we're best but if you killed your wife I'd be like Oh my God. What a piece of shit at a monster. I feel bad for your wife. I'd also be appreciative. That you did not take the time to call me and ask for assistance so Peter. Hi Libby feels betrayed and I kind of see that help. Cottage Shaw Vulcan driver White Brock come on connections in this town so I can imagine being a little curb. Your enthusiasm annoyed like no. I wouldn't have helped him but I would have liked it but asked to be thought of in that moment. No I would've turned demand. That's the other moment with him is. He's like an I swear to you. If he had told me that he had been the murderer. And he just did it in a blind rage or something I would have been okay with it but you know all this chick governed up. Can't be done that's it. That's that's the real on crowd. Honest murderers yes. That's be open with what she said. Yes speaking of honest murderers. This was requested by Tony from Ontario. Let's listen to him real quick. Hey guys this is Tony from Ontario Canada. I would like to recommend a sound of thunder from two thousand five There's probably one of the biggest piece of Shit I've ever seen. Don't know how they released this some theaters and probably similar CD. I've ever seen. Thanks guys. There is yeah everything Tony said is totally true wrecked. Thank you Tony. I never saw this before and I feel like this is almost a quintessential bad move. This was a blind spot in my himes rewatch. I saw this a couple years back. Complete Greenbelt situation. I think I got like twenty minutes in and then woke up for like the last ten minutes. You're the one that you're the one that put the Kevorkian this show you stay tuned this years ago. Time Cop I believe another now that makes sense. I would have brought it up there. Yeah because I mean as everybody knows you know. I`Ma fucking time travel fanatic man and so of course. I'm going to be attracted to a movie about Time travel such as this and also like the idea of altering the future if you fuck with stuff like this can't miss boy was I wrong it. It's a mess. It's a mess and this is also like to be fair to this movie. This was one of those classic troubled productions. They've ran out of money Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. But you know what it comes to a point where maybe just maybe you should just flush the toilet completely get every last drop of that turned down the drain and not released the movie. The party analogy that I was going to if I'm throwing a party and like hey guys come on over. I'm going to do the food. I'm going to do the drinks at all this stuff and the food comes in and it's rotten and the beer guy cancels it's incumbent upon me to call my friends into like you know what guys party is kids. Can you stop at a stop and shave? Stop and say that. That's what I should do is like dry. Fultz it together. It'd be like now. It's fine. I got all they had was Carlo Rossi wide. Drink that all night. I've probably got domino. Pierce Brosnan was going to make an appearance at the party. Now it's Edward Burne man. You pissed that point. You sniff at Orange Peels. But they're very nutritious Erik's pointing out though that Pierce Brosnan was originally attached to this motion. Rules right yes and another director. Renny Harlin problem with apparently got into some creative dispute with Ray Bradbury and walked off of the project. I think that's overblown. I think Rennie smelled sub that in the air with a good night. Everybody because that's a guy who's been attached to some bad movies so he knows when the fact you know coming home to roost island you know. Island is an abomination. Remember watching it as a child. Oh so excited. Because I'm like Oh this is everything I like swords and Roggin Oceans and yes and then I'm just like I can't even make it through this fucking ten years old seen. I remember watching it as a kid. It's bad too which was a big deal for me to what bad movie you no. Movies be bad a pad pirate movie true. Pirate move out. Sarah are some good pirate. Yes there are many good pirate movies yes in blood talk. Captain Phillips the Good Pirate. That's true it's not really about pirates but there's pirates in master and commander. I've still never seen the movie. Based on a Ray Bradbury short story wherein people go on time Safaris to kill dinosaurs thrill seekers like rich assholes. Sure a Steve. What is the name of the company types of Time Time Time Times? I played that in the arcade growing that like that. You held the gun and you. There was a button on the floor. Time crisis I'm fucking. Ask play time crisis. They had a tiny prices in the lobby of the multiplex would get to work early to play a little time crisis word for a head to clock in man absolutely great game. I was getting high in the parking lot but time crisis was great. I remember it so yeah. And it's that's it and Edward Burns the tour guide or whatever and it's like a butterfly effect. He Yeah Situation Literally. Now saying quite the vociferous reader Have you read a lot of Ray Bradbury? Not a ton. I read the illustrated man. I'm not. It's just a very like style of Scifi that I respect that. It's just not my bag right Martian. Chronicles I read early and really loved and I read some short. Never read the illustrated man. I was really surprised when he died like two years ago. Twenty twelve to twenty two but it was like she uses as the live but yeah it was one of those who just as well fuck it. Mark Twain fucking spoken bogues with Rod Sterling. Those guys work. Oh baby reese good man. And he's training another writer to come up buried them off Burma mother. So this movie's got quite the cast Edward Burns and Ben Kingsley and Young Baby David Yellow here's the biggest question on the table with Mr Owen. This movie was is this accent. Not Good what are we? Is he trying to do an American accent here form? Yeah I think it's got he's bebop when it is. It's before he got his legs. I still I always have a soft spot in my heart because Selma's awesome and he was railroaded by the academy and someone said set that guy's career to bust after he complained about not getting nominated. Somebody somebody is smoky room is like he's done nothing by teach. Well you know what I think. He was railroaded by the academy because they were like you know what yet you were. Great playing Dr King in that movie But you know what you were in a sound of. Thunder related added a log memory now like we get the guy to judge like the whole body of work. That's why like Russell. Crowe GETS THE OSCAR FOR GLADIATOR. Because they're thinking about the insider and he didn't get nominate because he was thinking about a sound of thunder the thing about his accent is you have to remember. It's the genius of it is in the accents. He's not doing skinny bump deep and do what? What twenty fifty five. We're told US man. This is your the the exteriors. All of the bad reminds me a lot of you ever see that Atlas shrugged movie that came out in the mid on early. The ten is the one with the Sean Hannity backing. Yes they did. That entire trilogy was all the same director. I say the first one and it reminded me so much of this just like the bat the super cheap super bad. Let's talk about that I because it's it does like paint the rest of the movie and this obviously has to be from them losing money in the budget or whatever well. They ran into money in post production. Is that what it was? It was franchise. Pictures went bankrupt and postponed the fucking Hubris with the CG. It's just like no. We don't need to go outside in film on an actual street. We'll just do a sound stage. It's all Green Street screen and we're just GONNA make streak it as their words like a mind boggling decision on their part like the movie takes place in Chicago. It's being new mind boggling. It's fine but what I'm crisis looks better better cop looked better. I mean it is astounding. They're just like walking down the street and it's fake and you're like what the fuck like even if you had the best graphics team. Yes it's still the dumbest idea because they want to. Cg All the cars to make them look futuristic. But then like dude. You could still just clear the street nad those later. There's no point in world building if it's unconvincing from the beginning yes more like just put make it a normal street. I will be like Oh cheap movie cool cheap movies. We've seen that. It's like it's the future but you're only seeing like this executive board room and like this underground facility. Say It's twenty five. Don't go outside and I would believe it more yet. No one would care like they're just going for these friendly walks down the street. They already set it up. They said there's a deadly virus fucking that wiped out a bunch of people and a bunch of animals point predictable side predicted. I mean there's a lot of this movie got right. I mean Ed Burns is at a Costco Buying Poland. Spring in all the masks. He can buy it is sent Chicago and they do have a joke in the background where the cubs pennants little flag. Say that the World Series Wins of twenty two thousand forty six and twenty twenty two. Oh yeah working backwards. They were Kinda close. Yeah so I mean yeah exactly. This movie predicted a lot. But the thing with the cars to you do see some like real cars because when they have to close ups Lars and the real cars dude they might as well be like they are just regular cars with like like fake like cardboard fins on them. I just so we're taxicabs that are like tank taxicab y'all kind of viable total recalls yours taxi but like why are we even doing? Why are we predicting that the world is going to be so different in twenty fifty five? The skyline shots really confused me. 'cause they every time I got it. They have a weird. I assume it's this building at their in where there's justice but each time it looks different like one time it looks like the avengers fortress and then our time. It looks like the hotel from ocean thirteen. Sometimes it looks like the nine eleven memorial right. Yeah that big bill. That's supposed to be where they're located. I think why else would you put it in the fucking skyline? They had one shot of the entrance to time safari from the street and I swear it looked like a strip mall. Does it out laser tag? What he's going on here looks like standing in front of it. It's like time Safari Laser. Tag A fucking career nail place then right about going. I'm not going to medical procedures done in a strip mall. I am not time traveling in a strip. You know what I mean. Look I'm not getting my laser surgery done of not like not go to a dentist. I'm not I'm not traveling back in time. No absolutely not. But that's what's confusing though. I think that that building. That's like clearly fake in the. Chicago is supposed to be that but then when you get close up it is just like it like the lettering in front of the building. Looks like a used car dealership dealership from the outside. And here's the thing about just to talk about Ben Kingsley. In this movie sure and his wig if the name of the company is time Safari Yep he cannot look like this. He needs to agree like a crappy suit with a Hawaiian shirt underneath. I like that loose pants with a belt. That doesn't look right. Yeah it's it's a con- he looks like a guy that like tries to finger you go and asleep absolutely. That's the wig that's going on. He's got this shitty goatee ish kind of thing going on what he does it. He just because he's got busy fingers. I'm not leaving my wallet. They're not getting addressed at times safari no way. It looks like he worked with Dr Wiley at some built. A fucking mega man. Getting UNDRESSED AT TIMES. Afar reminded me of another thing. That's weird in this movie. Is there for some reason? And I guess like this need not apply to Ed Burns all of the scientists or whatever in time safari but everyone else in. This movie is dressed like it's Batman. The animated series and the Old Noir have coats on and I was like what is any of this at one point Ed Burns. Looks exactly like a nutsy? I don't know what's going on. And he's got this big brown coat and a yellow shirt of what side. Are you on like if you're going to commit to like if you're going to do like retro-futurism? Shit like that. Go all the way. Go full. Full skycap yeah totally. But the captain had a lot to do with this feel mayb- I mean what I ask much of SKYCAP. Two thousand three and two thousand five. I kept it was definitely I but clearly also had like more money. All Fiji I think is the influence there. We'll do another one that's almost all CG and it turned out to be this a sky. Captain is that actually the Sky Captain. One of the first times. We saw some what we now call like Tarkhan town. Because didn't they bring Laurence Olivier back to life in that? I'm dying to Rewatch it for some reason. I remember liking it when initially came out and I know. A lot of people disliked sticks. You like that whole yeah. Yeah I remember being aggressively nonplussed but I was like. Oh there's a sapling fuck in your funding Zappa we open on. You don't know what's happening really you get this bad. Scroll an hour and a jungle which were told as fucking sixty five million years in the past the weird thing about the scroll is at highlights buck and Ben Kingsley character. Who doesn't have a lot to go? Yeah well I think the Scroll Department got one script in where this movie more than the movie movie had another script where he told them all in no uncertain terms to go fuck themselves and left the production. By the way. The scroll I took a picture of it is in the year. Twenty fifty five. A new technology was invented. That could change the world or destroy is a man named Charles Hatton. Used it to make money. You would think movies about Charles. Not Sure Ed Burns with a fucking stupid ice gun. But here's the thing you take Ed Burns and maybe have a better actor. Who could do this? But the character of Ed Burns should be Charles Hatton. Be that guy like yeah wearing a white wig maybe look white wig yes You know I'm like a scientist I. Yeah whatever quite nice. My sister houses such an Hatrick. Brush it up your Chin. Looks I mean yeah he could be in fucking sonic the hedgehog. Absolutely that at that site so yeah. He's the money man. I guess behind all this an ED burns like the brains. He's like you're the Sam Neill of this Great Corrales Dr Alan Grant ask Dr Ryan Her. Yeah what is it about something? Rier Cryer Travis Riot. What of Name Plane Travis Ryan. This new time travel. Kate you change it to Terry Travis Fitzgibbons better with Leeann more Travis o'shaughnessy Travis. Rier sounds like a country musician. Yes that's build out a franchise Travis mcmullan. Oh she's out of Harvard. So big little crush is town. We gotta get we invent time travel and prevent Eddie burdens to save Tom. Petty is no specifically to stop birds. Yeah we'll let everyone else die from fatten all so we open. It's Muggy did dino time I can't think of a Duller bigger waste of time travel technology than just this singular were going back to this one's bought Columbus same dinosaur. The whole thing takes under ten min- this is all we're doing with this technology. It's Kinda crazy. Setup is supposed to be a cop out because you're in this moment you're in the jungle. Yes and you like your real like that's our too. Yeah because of the way everything fucking looks. That's what I thought I was remembering the movie and I was like. Oh this is clearly like some called open where they're explaining what the technology would do because it looked so fucking terrible ball the dinosaurs specifically Mrs sub scifi channel. Shit I this is this really. This should be a sci-fi movie but I don't understand a lot I guess the logic here okay. So they go back in time and kill this dinosaur moments before it would've died naturally by falling into this pit. Modern whatever or killed by this volcano were ride and then they I guess they keep going back to the same dinosaur and our they not aren't they. There are ready. Shouldn't they pick a new dinosaur every time? Yeah go to the wild west when they come back they kind of go to the wild west while the West inning then happen yeah. This is during the time waving. We talked about this in some episodes. How cool would be to be able to like you? Get to kill Kennedy. Because you know he's GonNa Die Anyway. I would totally be like. Yeah I try you know what I mean like Zapruder Safari or you know you get to kill John Lennon. Positively and White David Chapman get any doubt type crap. I'm like this idea. You go back in time to kill John Lennon and suddenly like something fucks up so now you're a man on the run that has just murdered John Lennon the rest of the movie the fugitive. You just happen to be from the future I now. You can't kill any dictators on the good people. We only do. Good people that you can kill in this one Not not leave him alone Mussalini. We leave him alone John Lennon candidate. Now it's people you know when they died. Chris can't fucking did it to himself. Whenever Dude. I don't know that we got a real timetable on that. That's true. And plus I mean he was in a bunker. Pretty well guarded. I mean he's still got guys around nobody. That'd be cool though you do you like Hitler goes to the bunker to kill himself at. Its you when you've got like a chainsaw. Huge ready to go to town on Hitler. Dude I love you. So you're like Hitler Town Inc back. Go to your like just picturing like the guards outside the bunker door right. It's like yeah you know. We've not heard a rumbling around in there for a few minutes now you think he's okay. Yeah Oh my God fucking change in-app purchases for that you can like by just like a bucket of grenades so anyway. Yeah this movie so yeah. The whole thing is going to go in. They take ten steps. There's like some sort of Super League with glass path. I don't know what this fucking thing. Well the ideas that and they explained this and I did shorts on the way here much better and it contained in one safari and then they come back and uh-huh history has changed forever. We fucked up. We should have never done this. That's it that is all it is but but the idea is you're on this separate paths. You can't step on anything like you're not actually touching the ground right right right. It kind of looks like the fucking like we're jelly. That comes out of people in Donnie. Darko also just some random graphic from Peter. Gabriel video and Steve. Before we went on the air you were telling me a little bit about that short story and the sound of thunder is the the steps. The dinosaur makes yes. Yes it would have been like you could have started this out. Made it more or ask like you. Don't see this fucking terrible monster. Maybe the last second. That's I mean you have to you have to. This is the movie you have to draw this part out a lot and like make it interesting atmosphere immediately. Just put you there and they have the thing that looks this. Dinosaur looks worse than an action figure it does. It's just ruined. The whole movie is over the second you totally right. It's like well now. I am just counting the second to the credits because this fucking selects doesn't even move right especially later in the movie where they tried to distract it round glitch glitch and then you have to watch this fat old guy. Be Amazed by an hour had a heart attack. Looking at that thing I don't it looks like Ms Paint. That was scary. What was his character's name Mr Wallin Becker and he was like one of the detectives and run. Lola run or something. Really and this is sexy. Daughter is love actually yes. She's the sex maniac that like is trying is like the Ridler of destroying Alan records relationship. Oh really secretary that. Just shoot thank you. Which is I'm wet right now. He's like no thank you. Break Your fucking stats. How good this is GonNa be? Wow I don't remember that character. Thank you thank you well. Maybe I'll maybe I'll buy you a present in front of my wife. Oh no I've ruined my marriage Mr Bean. Please get it together. She's also supremely Horny in this moves. You guys look a sex maniac. That's kind of weird and Ed Burns. Kinda into cousin play. I yeah that's a long. Basically this thing happened. They kill the. There's a cool thing that's not in the short story. That is here which makes a cool thing in this movie. Well it makes you. It makes more sense because like in the short story they just have regular guns and it's like they keep telling the guy like you cannot shoot before we do Lobo Blah right in here the kind of a Robo cop situation where you cannot shoot the gun until Ed. Burns says it's okay will not fire until Ed Burns firing his which is a safety feature. You would want me look this upside versus downside of this thing. Okay we can go in. We'll make fifteen grand a pop awesome. Yeah but the downside is all of reality can change forever and we're going to have one sleepy government agent just kind of watch and the state and the fact that the government approved this and they talk about getting the green light to do this. It's just like we're full oligarchy. At that point rich guy can just control time. Now I guess again like all of my yellow finally became president of the United States. And I'm here to say time. Travel will be regulated by me Boo Boo Bloomberg Michael Bloomberg the tenth president of the United States. Because you went back and Aiko Bloomberg goes back in time and kills whoever made Coca Cola. Oh Eric I don't know man Bloomberg being the tenth President that it's me Michael Johnson. Big Not enough presidential stage names point by the way I guess. You said their bullets in the short story and this their ice bullets which actually makes sense. If you don't WanNa fight you just to meet you because you know every once in a while they find like an out of place artifact on this planet right like in general flight. They're like oh it's a spark plug in this fucking stone. I assume it's time travel. Time Traveler. Ancient Aliens Right. I mean that's not enough. People are talking about ancient alien guy with the bad haircut. Fucked it up for the rest of us because we're going backwards not forwards. That's what we're supposed to be doing here. Folks towards aliens not back to the dinosaurs or the alien forward towards aliens and always twirling curling bullets make sense so they shoot this fucking and it dies immediately and again like this would be. This could be seen. It is going to be a scene but well I was excited anyway because all of a sudden I had this weird sense memory of beating a level in tour Arca dynasty sixty four also looked better polly. Fuck diagnosed much better. I guess that's a good thing is that it does make the movie itself. Makes you time travel to a time when you were happy watching this fucking piece of shit that happens to me with lots of of like? Oh yeah remember that time. I was happy watching this. Whatever it is dinas dead we come back. It's Ben Kingsley. Throws everybody a little party and I mean like it's just like it's. I want to know how much it costs to do this every time. This is the big problem is because when the next group of guys go there. They're talking about all. We paid a fortune for this. We had to pay double to get to the head of the six year waiting lists and I'm like just make up a number. You have to say something because that dollar amount really will contextualized like how specialized this is. What kinds of you know what I mean is it like. Is this dude. Just some successful like used car salesman guy who owns like a bunch of different lots around the Chicago area or is he like Boo Blomberg. And he's got fucking sixty five billion dollars and it would help contextualize the tax money that the government would be getting again to put reality at stake every single day. You know what's crazy is like. They have all that income. Make eight hundred bucks a day. Man Not ban wait you shed You just tell them not to step off the path there. Oh that's gotta worry about nothing. You don't need to waste money on cautioned taste. You're older you're tell them before they do it. Was it easy but they sign a paper that there's some sort of financial penalty for ruining reality. Okay I guarantee you in this America. Twenty fifty five by the way. We're we're making fucking sixty billion dollars a day on this Dino Kill Attraction Times Faris Shit we still do not have medicare for no ducking away. The fucking pipes and flint are still garbage. We haven't fixed that yet. I bet after dark. They're like okay. We're going to take some poor people go back in time and you can to a time where there were no laws where you could just them that makes sense. Oh I thought you say rich people could like Rangel. Some poor people take them back in time and then watch that dinosaur. Oh that's actually change the time line because then he's got dino diarrhea you now. I'm sure if times have already existed. You could do a fucking the Jack. The ripper package where you feel all those prostitute but didn't see that one I'm going to take some umbrage with Steve because other records about prostitutes were which I think some buddy knows. Who's here's the thing is like molested as prostitutes or media at Burns as to do research. Yeah I gotta go go back. In time. Foggy London town have sex prostitutes? Find which ones get killed at now. We know which ones you wanted me. What part of London Roklin London? I would love to do the Dahmer Package. You have to figure out how to like five heads seven hands in a freezer and you have to balance them all you got to find little corners. I thought you were going to say because you've always wanted to work in the chocolate fag packet. Oh Yeah right this way Chris Cabinet. They'd just arrest great. Here's your glasses. Chris waiting would be like when on the Simpsons? They have the fake boat show. Yes exactly come get your free over any time period you want. You could do whatever you want you. That's how you read out all the governors. Are we going another one book for the Jeffrey and the chocolate factory? Place of pure decapitate. Jeffrey Dahmer Lick those walls. Do Excellent this dead boy. Tastes like real dead boy. Yeah that's the authenticity of this program spared. No EXPENSE JASON. A lot of dead boys. You think that's good just suck on his everlasting gums. Stop or neck. Can't even see the frown. I but it's there and it was deep. It came from within this champagne reception or whatever and Ben Kingsley like breaking Eddie Burns balls about like you have to go up and entertain August. They're expecting to hear a story. Mingling is part of the contract right talking to Tammy the computer system. Tammy and it's like a Sassy computer. Keep it out of this blue. A SASSY PEWTER. Tammy did your husband Your husband computer program had go out down husband. Computer Program did you. Roger Tammy. What were you doing with that? What are you doing that? Burns calculate can be late computing. I won't be home for dinner would believe all Zeros and ones I have Spaghetti Os. You guys noticed the edd Byrnes at this huge computer station and it's this thing called. Tammy it's time adjustment machines. Whatever warehouse Puckett Czechoslovakia wherever the absolutely but along with that? Did you notice like everything is supposed to be like super advanced computer technology and keyboard that he's using is straight out of like nine thousand nine hundred ninety three? It's one of those computers. Were like you would press the key. And then like they were so spring loaded that you hear the alley chunky total CA chunky keyboard. That he's using that what he's talking to this fucking regular keyboards now. That's whatever that's what you kids do twitter's and the tumblers chunky keyboard that's fucking science it's computing. That's math and we got a computer here from twenty fifty and a keyboard from one thousand nine hundred ninety one. Oh Yeah just there's somewhere around here. There's a fucking walk and talk on the set with Ed Burns and this younger woman and there is some like totally throwaway winds subplot. Where like you know how he's promised to Fi. I was going to take care you and I'm like what the hell fuck is this person. What are you talking about? Who is her father litter when she dies by being eaten by a snake? There's no no nothing. Oh nothing. His Co. heart isn't affected at all. Well this is another. We didn't decide sister friend girlfriend. What is this sister friend he? There's no romantic thing. There I think. Well maybe there's stepsister. I don't know that flirting while. They're both in the showers. I don't know why you saw us. Y'All grown up. Wow that happened fast. I WanNa Make Shitty India movie about taking time Safari over your body. I guess I don't have to feel guilty about masturbating to you anymore. Just put a tape. Cassette shoes got heart so big curse. The is down this thing that that's all he's listening to. What is that from? That's where she's the one that never seen it. She did the he did the soundtrack to your somehow tump headed to the whole thing. That's weird there during this reception Were introduced to this this other character. What does this woman's name Kate Today? Make that up pro does matter all these character this or other science trash the woman who protests right here and she throws over these because ludd champagne bottle. I guess it's like she's got a bottle of champagne and blood sprays out of inches sprays people. I guess they're doing a reference to like the blood on the but how. How much did you spend getting that? I of blood champagne of jet carbonated blood. That's shit right out of Jeffrey. The fucking chocolate cherry flavored blood sparkling and still technically a sparkling cider. That's housemaid we do it. We do all the prep-work here. Sonia is characters Sonia Rand and shown your blade woman who I'd rather be watching mortal Kombat She invented yes. The whole system. Tammy Tan she's the voice of Tammy she's also the voice of Tammy and she I guess had beef With some of the ethical shit here clearly and Ben Kingsley like had her name erased from the credits every thing is you're killing dinosaurs which is like I mean that's fine. You know like it's the reality. It's the fact that all of time and space is being jeopardised every single day. That's why I think instead of this fake blood which makes you think. Animal rights protests. It should have been a bottle of sparkling clocks a bunch of watches shootout. Hit Him in the face with or to man fucking crude oil. You know the stuff that dinosaurs became. Oh Nice Oh that's true. That's hard to get out of your clothes for sure. Burns goes back to super apartment and this one sexy ladies there the the woman who's like the daughter of the client. Yes and they fuck. There is the weird cousin thing where I don't get. This one happens so he she gets into his bedroom by saying. I'm cousin yes she's naked like ready to go. And he's Spread Eagle in a swivel chair. Oh is that Martha keep going your mccaw. You're totally right Kevin. I think that like initially she just used it clearly as a way to get into the building but yeah then definitely he was like no yeah. Let's keep it up like this is a good little role. Pat. I like this. Is that uncle? Mark Calling picking my God. I haven't talked to him since that awful Thanksgiving. It's your nephew yeah. It's just a thing that you did not need intercourse in this movie. But he the doorman he adalah cousin. Lift back dude. This doorman character is truly something in this movie. That's got all these other problems already. They had a doorman character. Who Ed Burns is like? Oh Hey Tony. How's it going and the guys like you know going great but even if it wasn't nobody would listen to me anyway and as Dude fucking terrible doorman benches in this move i. I'm an empty vessel later in the film when eventually there's like time is being altered and it starts getting hot in November on the doorman shelvin degrees in November. The hell's going on. Yeah totally and then I was also like we'll wait till twenty twenty pounds. Pretty certainly was seventy in November here last year so the next time one is the one where everything gets fucked by the way. David or yellow is one of the guys on the team. And there's a big team is a doctor German guy who I guess he's like the continuity editor because he's making sure they know like fuck anything you have. The the woman who at Burns swore to her dead father that he would look after her virtue. She's like the videography for making like filming holographic account of every right. It's also it's also like a souvenir thing. Yes at the end of a roller coaster beyond the the log bloom. Yeah and there's something where this guy is other guys. Barely a character is flirting with her for a second and drops this big VAT of like guns or whatever. It is that okay. That's fine you have to check. Its skydiving dude. Check the PAC twelve times for you move. This goes back to the naming and the general funding of this operation because in reality like a high tech operation like this it would have a name like that makes absolutely no sense like Blueberry Company of the time. Travel future no cabin. You're right because you just inspired me. What time safari is the name of some sort of like like like futuristic feeling mini golf? Course that's what you would name name fucking times Ola. Tim's time travel discount fucking. That's what it looks like a groupon for times of our whatever group out very only one thousand nine hundred grand not bad and the employee has this all important thing on like a box of books. Yeah and he's trawling it around and just jumped off and it's leaking and he's yeah it's fide of like dude. Someone has to be like. That's now this goes on the garbage and we get a new one. You know what I mean like yet. Absolutely dude it is so ridiculous. It's really weird because this only pays off in that you see the liquid burning through the gun. The gun doesn't work but this guy doing this never like comes back like tell me if I'm wrong. They never realized that. That's what happened at the very end. I think it's David Osceola was someone is like. Oh there was a leak but it didn't short out the thing until after we did the time jump. So that's why we didn't notice it but then like Ed Burns like yeah okay. Well that can't happen ever again. We can't have mistakes and I'm like no you're gonNA find the dude that did it seconds fucking fire. Maybe more than ten people should work here. Were fucking with time and space. Maybe more than ten being do what they want. Healthcare to all three lands if we at time safari raised the minimum wage to seventeen dollars an hour. We're not going to be able to afford to keep time safari going. Well that's a Ben Kingsley's shoestring budget like he's just like oh. We can't do that. Look the ship page. Probably his cheapness is the cause of all the fuck curry but at the same time I was wondering that like is it really because he turned off the bio filter because it uses too much energy. So that's why I guess this is jumping ahead because the next thing the next time travel forty minutes. Nothing wound part of this. Be So we've got time to kill. They'd bring back something and they don't know what it is. Twenty three grams heavier. Maybe Sean Penn's defect that. It came back with them is like Oh my God. The bio filter was up. But you still killed something in the past. Yes who gives a fuck acclaim back exactly and also waited like a bio filter prevent you from actually killing something in the past. Obviously that's not true because they kill the dinosaurs. I think it's something to do with. If you bring something from the past back like judo back that you did it oud alert. Everyone be like something's up. You can't do this kind of thing right ever see I was thinking. It's like the bio filters on Star Trek with the beaming technology. You know so. You're not like beaming aboard other ships with like viruses and shit because there's an episode of t and G. I think we covered on the next recently where that happened. Where like Oh there was something got past the bio filters. I didn't think about that. But yeah like fucking you would have prehistoric butterfly in your but like that's where I keep it with all this moving that's what would ha- like. You're you're mixing your atoms. Yeah it would not great. Can we really quickly talk about Again forty minutes. Nothing we've got we've cast. There's fifty five minutes of this. Movie is booed by Boone Lizard. The next two businessmen that go on this trip that kind of set off our main plot I would love to dig into those guys We'll just really quickly. The process of going back in time also makes no sense because they get in like a little tent. Everyone is wrapped in Shit. They stole from a rollercoaster. And it's like now hold on you. GotTa get strapped survivor. Experience Everybody except for the record but we never in the shopping cart will pushing absolutely but you never see like how they go from strapped into this thing to just casually walk tunnel and then the other way. There's several times this week. And they're like running through this at a full clip and cut and they're back in the laboratory and they're strapped into the food because in cop. I believe there's a little bullet car gun. You get into like a little a little craft and you drive and he goes boob loop the craft kind of just disappears and you're walking on the other end at least that's what I remember. Just made me realize like this is not his first. Rodeo was time travel is David put it together and it's always is stupid and makes no sense. Is Their time traveling. Capricorn one I never saw no. It's just like a space adventure with OJ Simpson OJ Simpson. I think that was probably something that they wound up. Not having money for maybe like all of the scenes that are yes whatever the actual machine. That's what I'm kinda getting at. Is they just kind of have to make do? And it's like now we're just walk into this but you don't even see them like you would assume what happens is that they get into this pod thing. They go and they have to open a door to go. You don't even see them opening a fucking door film. Ed Burns opening the door. Come on can we fucking door filming walking into the fucking set kitchen or wherever you know? There's the dog just to stargate poor. Let's not complicate exactly at birds. No re-shoots Gum. Right and brothers mcmullen. Two brothers mcmullen forever. So I can't be I'm sorry mcmullan. The third is after that Shrek naming. I can't I can't do any research. Hold on. I gotTa put you on. Hold hold on a second. I just GonNa put you on. Hold Real quick unbelievable shoe. Please hold for Ed Burns Wall for and that's GONNA be in my head for the next week so these businessmen we WANNA talk. All my Japanese do axles. And the other guys all the fat guy in the Weiner Do X. versus Sabir no echoes and Middleton yet. That's their names. And there's this whole back and forth like they're walking out of there. These are the Jews. I first knows. Direct They dress like they're in fucking die way. Exactly there's fucking they live in the city Parter Chicago. They're just walk around is like Oh yeah you know he gotTa do it man you you know what you don't. WanNa do it. You don't WanNA spend money go back in time life or death man. You got little fucking. Bb balls well. Yes be ball. He was you want. What you need is brass ball. Yeah you need big brass bag. Voluptuous false. May I say more about boss have trouble walking with those big brass balls now balloon balls brass either? Come back in time with me and kill a dinosaur if you do you got but if you do you got them big clink and be like okay so I want to spend seventy five grand to go back for twenty minutes kind of kill a dinosaur and come back. That's the other thing I feel like honestly times of would suffer from incredibly bad word of mouth. Yeah it's really not worth it. It's like twelve minutes page on Yelp us. As rich people I will pay to go out to the rockies and hunt a bunch of homeless people with rifle APPs. I'll do that in heartbeat. But listen dropping. Seventy five grand to kill this look. The dinosaur looked a little fake yelp review dinosaur. Look I totally. I think they drug me and put me in a virtual reality simulator. That'd be honest with you and I don't think that was champagne at the party. These yeah the bickering and tear. I love them dearly. The fact guys from something right there. You're bald guy. They're both from stuff. Yeah there's like character like You've been he's probably been in every iteration of law and order. Yeah that's probably what it is. They're like not great. No you walk. That's a guy you get the playoffs someone better. You don't put too bad ones together. You're totally right. It's two thousand five. Just good character actors accelerated. What about like dame a good character actor? 'cause they can't trouble asking Michael Chiklis. You know what I mean like could have been this Hobo. Go back in time hockey instead of that. How about the third guest star on a week of scrubs too right okay? So Elizabeth Banks. He was the man he was the man who went back in time to kill a dinosaur. Stephen Topol ASCII David a sound of thunder. That was a troubled production. Act EVER BELIEVE. The scrape bradberry dotted with reading leverages. Call Up Edberg. I got a call at birds to just get him on the horde about this Ed. Ed You there. I can't you're out of mob. Cast it. Come on Ed David. GonNa hang up on you now. And that is what we call. The Dino Hassle owes fans of the total ASCII files of. The only. Ones are going to get that check. Yeah so they go back in time. It's nervous guy in rough and tumble brass balls. Dude the dino comes up and wouldn't you know it Ed? Burns goes to pull the trigger on this fucker and his gun does not go and we are having some problems and there's a whole thing the two dudes like I love that this path even though they only need so much of it. 'cause it's all staged thing for some reason continues for like another fifty yards and then also goes around. What are you doing because if you have to go use the bathroom? There's a fucking outhouse at the end of this trail this keep going down the path. You definitely can't piss back in the fucking history to can you piss on the path. The Path like comes with them. So it's like they're not stepping on the ground young guy one of these two bumbling guys I think Middleton the guy that kept talking about balls is the one that falls off the path steps on a butterfly. Yeah causes this whole thing. Factually Ho- like any clack. Oh yeah better food. You know what we tried to do. One thing with our movie but these guys rat. Berry fucking Oh. I thought rules bradberry to up a back up the illustrated baby fuck mixing people up. I was thinking of Rape Bradberry at all. I was thinking Chamonix. She's thinking about it man. A sound of thunder is not a real thing. It's the sounded. Lightning thunder should save. Takes Shit Ed Combos Kitin Extreme Thunder Thunder on August? I would hide under hide under the bed like a dog so they could use the thunder shirt honestly like thunder. Sure just make you feel comfortable. Dogs got one on right now. Really thing Oh yeah. It helps for anxiety basically a hug of a shirt like the tight shirt that makes them feel secure. They got like there's like blankets and shirts for men. That's girdle food we slimming and do it with my eggs. I-it'd do you have a fat dog out the dog. Guard TURTLE DIRT dirt. Nobody likes fat dog. Why not set up your dog a little bit with the Turtle? Aren't you tired of looking at your fat dog and feeling sad and remorseful? About what clearly only you did do it. I mean Jesus Christ. It's bad enough watching a dog. Take a shit watching fat dog. Take a shit is one of the saddest things in humanist and how about this bonus for you could shoot. Fireworks at the fucking secured bounces off. This is a fat dog. Next door made a disgusting lookout scared that dog now. This is to save dog next to it. Eighty third. The Dog Looks Strikingly Beautiful. And not afraid at all. Stop letting your fat dog ruin your wholesome Fourth of July festivities you're on NC dot com slash scumbag source. I like that scumbag sources flipping out on Ben Kingsley. He's like we almost got killed. What is the circuits? You're running and Ben Kingsley. 'cause he's like the hype man in the face of everything and he's good at spinning shit you know he's like oh no it was. This was all orchestrated. Who's part of the thing you were in? You know a totally controlled environment and think about how you conquered death. You would put in a life or death moment and you were like I don't know Brubaker. Landing on Mars. Yes and he does a thing where he's like. Yo you find yourself in the in the same breath as Columbus and you know Lewis and Clark whenever he says but then there's like half past future one of the Abreu break around Mars which I believe is also the name of a Dave Brubaker. Jazz album from `Capricorno one I read is like that's the name of the Dude played by O. J. Simpson No. I think that might be powers a juice. Oj's in that movie and Powers boothe. I forget who our crew killers. I think ever stuck against food right and now. Here's our CO pilot. Robert Blake was powers. Boothe accused of murder. He just looks like the way he was stern dad across the street. I would now. Because he's dead goes powers boothe but if we can harnesses powers possessed Charles Brubaker in Capricorn. One portrayed by none other than Mr James Brolin Star of the Car Brolin. I thought powers dude look at this cast though staff or mentioned Oj. Simpson Elliott Gould. Another murderer SAM. Waterston ole broader blackbird violate actually probably probably of the homes a la La la La Higham. That's the Best Eric Jokes out. God I got your ass Kamprad Goddamn it. What were you saying Steve? Do so no. So yeah these guys are like we want our money back well blah. The Big Lebowski himself was in David. Huddleston an kings Kingsley. Like kind of smooth it over. And then this guy. The worming government officials who goes on all the things that glaze clay. I think zero. I gotTa shut down. I'm sorry there's nothing I could do. Here yeah fucking. Obviously totally. And they're like they are so insulted by it but it's like yeah of course you're fucking with the fabric of existence and something went wrong also. Nobody ideas he steps on a butterfly. We don't see the end of the shitty movie and they have to like go to his place to fight it. Look it's a big fucking butterfly as like a you don't you. Maybe you get to keep your time sued as part of your thing but we check. We always check it right. You go to this room. Hear you get undressed and they check it and then you could bring it well. I'll tell you you know. Middleton is a knowing character by love that last scene where he says. I wish I wish I had that on that butterfly. There is a knowing it's raining again. There's there's a. There's a detail in this movie. That was so dumb and it's not consequential to the story at all or our conversation. I noticed in my forty minutes booths coming right up fair enough but I did have to bring it up because it's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. It's right before the third jump of the movie. Which is these Japanese guys and they realize like something is up all right. It's the morning of and Ed Burns is like this is what it's like. Oh it's hot in Chicago today. Global News on. He's looking outside and Shit. He's got a coffee maker built into a wall nice. What are we doing? Why is that nothing else in? This apartment is futuristic at all. He's got a regular regular two thousand five television. The structure of the apartment is totally the same. It's a push door. No future doors or anything like that. But there's just like a futuristic coffee machine built into why all I would've loved if you go into his bathroom and he has the pull chain toilet. Well he's like a psychopath even comments on it. Like you got like a cot and like a rifle and like nothing else in here. What is going on? I've lived here from all this woman says. Just move in festas everywhere. It'd be funny if when because of the two cubs pendants which means Edberg from Chicago. Okay whatever time with the accents the second you put that pendant Ed Burns his wallet. Turns into a mets pennant. You I don't understand the logic of the time waves. We're the story again like this story is really like they go on one. Safari. There's a eccles is the scared guy you. He stepped on a butterfly and they come back and time is is is irrevocably changed and that's how it should. That's the creepy thing and it's over but that's the fact that we're running around. They eventually we get to a point where we're running away from physical waves of energy or whatever that then changed the fabric of time. They think it's better it happens. It will happen instantaneously absolutely. Look we have Ed Burns you. We gotta make an adventure folks and if adventure hero at burnt not like. He's known for being an Irish drunk all the time and we gotta make an adventure movie co Ed Burns. He's not getting it he's not gonNA okay. He keeps saying he wants to run away from it. All right. I'M GONNA run away from time. Ed Burns can run with the best and it doesn't make any and that's the way they set it up that this woman the woman who invented there's going to be all these time waves i. It's going to be the environment. Then it's GonNa be it's GonNa go in. Reverse Order of evolved the most so humans will get the time wave Laszlo. What evolved most recent is what goes last Oakley. Don't delay just again it would happen instantaneously. You would come back and everything would be and not drastically left reptile baboon differently but like just a little different. That'd be kind of cool and creepy. Well it's not like any of this stuff is like annihilation level like weird yes the suicidal fish the back duck and vine going up a fucking tower green wire there the fucking monster vines from Jumanji in India brambles these bathrooms. Chris are like half reptile. Yes let's go to almost. It's not all the way I it's different is bad but I was doing something something. But those boone lizards dude when they screamed at. You should have sounded like a woman. That'd be cool just like exactly. That was a haunting yell. And that's not okay man. That's still sticks with me. Something is seriously wrong with that. They go back in time with these two Japanese businessmen and they wind up five minutes back from where they thought they were supposed to be and then Tammy is like wait. What the fuck will they notice that the dynasty go back in the dinosaur is still dead from the last right? Yeah and the whole thing like they're racing against like you've got to kill this dinosaur and then get the fuck back because this volcano blows up so there there and then they're like oh wait. Look there's the dead dinosaur warps. The volcano erupts. And they're like getting back and whatever tammy though is like fuck you talking about. I didn't do anything like this indignant computer system. Tammy you sent us back at the wrong time. And she's like the fuck I did Ed Burns. It was a rivet five minutes later. Something right so they had already killed the dining. That's why wouldn't you be running into your other self killing the same fucking dinosaur on the because eventually spoiler towards the end of the movie. They go back to that very time where they are. They look at Burns just because we slept together once does not mean. You can take familiar tone with me. I did nothing wrong. You fucked up dot me. So when they realized victory Burns going like going licken Eh third at port smearing Dick over a keyboard. Go down a little shack on my tongue. Hey tammy play it now. I'm having sex with a computer or you are yes. That's all it takes. Were having phone sex. Ed Byrne Good Lord. I can't we can't do that bit again. Because then the estate of going down the episode Prince next actually this functions as a fair use review. Because I'm going to say and I like that Song it's it's you know it's interesting. Chord progressions covered our basis perfect. So so Ed Burns decides. He's got to seek out Sonia because she's the only one that can help in the situation. Down Kane. Oh yeah yeah with her fucking the little flight kiss that Mexico Apartment BUILDING. And she's not letting anyone in and he masquerades as a Greens keeper. This is a weird thing that because people have already started panicking. I guess as they got like shotgun hanging outside this door. Because everybody's been asking what's going on because everybody knows she's like a super genius or something is that right because remember last like eight people outside her door being like Mrs Genius up and up as a fine outside my fucking window. It's sarcastic because who else would be getting a fertilizer delivery. Didn't get some shit delivered. Go to the store at Burns. Trades with this guy takes his fucking hat and he's like yeah fertilizer delivery these like keep it as phase out of the way of the people or whatever gets in and she's like. I was expecting you said well. Then fuck it. Let me ladies over the door. Why am I fucking posing as a fertilizer deliveryman? Wait you didn't believe it voice. I'm doing it's especially deliveryman voice. And this is like she explains about like fuck time waves and this that and the other thing like we gotta go figure out like what we you know either like changed or back whatever the fuck and this is what we see time way of actual and real the first time we see one come comes through the house and it's a weird. She is so casual about this first time. She's like oh by the way I don't know duck or something and you're like what and she's just like turning away from the window and then you see it coming towards you looks like something out of power rangers really cheap and this whole like. It's slow motion. We're going flying. It looks because I was for a moment. I'm like is that an actual wave. That's what I thought. It was too cold water and I thought it was like the fucking you know the the the lake rose up and was taking over Chicago. They're still a Chicago though. Yeah I don't you we all we built it and then it just it just like buildings unstructured. Sh should go away in time. Waves as well exactly humanity wipe down. It's the same thing but now there's a huge fucking vine like again like why does it look like you? I think they stole a bunch of deleted scenes from that old history channel show after humans or and when nature takes back over structures and it was just a show where you looked at. Cgi renderings of skyscrapers with vines. On them I might. I might check this out. I was on board back in the day. Man We're talking early odds this thing in the late nineties. I totally INA sounds cool though. I WanNa see that happen and you you will. You'll live rotavirus. Might be a time limit on dropped something in the past now. Here's a fucking violence cured academic. I think so you. Hunting expedition sounded like Andrew Dice. Clay had done this fucking thing over here corona virus get fuck it believe it. I bet you that dude got a lot of really interesting useful opinions about the crime especially about who started. I wouldn't air them on this program. We'd have to play at Tom. Petty Song. I WanNa tell you. It didn't come from us. I would pay to see that fucking private facebook. Feed of his fucking. Oh actually forget about it and Time wave comes an owner superbugs. Oh this is supposed to be like locusts or something this is like biblical the mummy. When asked how cool would it be if the fucking mummy showed up in this way we can mommy's well you can afford Arnold Vosloo at that is one thing for absolute sure absolutely always always cheapie. Only I was up against Arnold Vosloo for the mummy. I wasn't cast because well you know. Join me my princess in the afterlife. Yeah I'll probe aged e turned out those. The white stripes weren't very flatter. Yeah No David. No one believes in my accent for anything. I lived in a pyramid. What what is going on here the way that they like dodged scarabs as blow up her apartment. Yeah she's got some sort of gas tank. He's a come on get doing he. And this is what I was talking about off the air like. He is a guy who will never be able to sound like a scientist at right. Here is one of the lines. I wrote down because he's like yelling at people in this movie like he's a fucking Queens. Jim Coach yes. Okay and like the fucking chemicals going everywhere. And he's getting ready to lights off that he goes. Come on. Come on get bovid. Moving no scientist ever has been like. It's as you know. Everybody talks about Denise Richardson that Bond Movie. It's just as bad if not honky. It's so stupid looking. Yeah he's got the big like kind of Indiana Jones Like like video game uncharted shirt. He looks like he's dressed. Exactly like the uncharted guy. That's Larry Good look good. Look handsome man. You know what it's A. It's a good book for like Dude. Who's laying cement not fuckin- piloting a time? It's like when I tell all my pretty boys. My fellow pretty boys good look for lane pipe. She's well escape and she's like look we've got we've got to go back and we have to figure out what's going on so the assemble everybody back at times. Safari INC and Tom Safari. You Watch the video. They watched the video previously on mucking thunder. And if we can't see anything so that was five minutes gone fell asleep. We understand you go. I'm just gonNA play play with. Does Yoyo for five minutes of this movie now. This is when they discover A. We brought back a gram more than we thought we did. Where'd you pick it up? Others that guy on the corner I called and got a ground. I hate when I have to call that guy though. 'cause I gotta get in his car. He drives around the block. And I gotta look through the bag really weird. It's uncomfortable. I wish he would just come up. I'M NOT GONNA BE GROPING. He's come up use of time travel back in time to get drugs. I'll absolutely yeah. Oh ripple effect. Those drugs weren't used. Go Go back to get. The week's tough shit is just like you know it's grass man actually might be Oregano. They might have been smoking Oregano and gets pot cocaine stronger. That's a good question hills that used to be stronger shock all right now stay in the time pat as we go to Roman Polanski's house go around the Pool Actually Jack Nicholson's it but famous Roman. Obviously we go round. We get deludes. Don't touch anything. Don't change history. He has to well anyway. Ed Burns in that Lewd seen from Wolf of Wall Street. He's tried to get into the party stone. Maybe that's what Quentin Tarantino did he wanted to the time safari fucked with the Sharon Tate. Ver- time Safari. May I said it was documentary man? Yeah go back in time and look at Cleopatra's fucking feet awry. They mostly small Cleopatra. She's actually doesn't really do it for you. Know what maybe time Safaris enough for us to quit night. You don't understand time Zafar. He's gotTA BE SO. Dang violent look on time are UK to the N. Word now seventy six goes awry time. I pay seventy five thousand dollars once a month to go back to nineteen thirties used the N. Word as released bots Jesus the fuck of feet photo archive just got a hundred thousand new entry. All from the one thousand nine hundred fifty s board three Kopech time Jan taking pictures of feet across his dream. Jan My unwitting victims or your grandmother's Barbara Stanwick feet. Manned Donna Reed had a real fucking paraquat operas. I Love Ethel Rosenberg's toes a that's a genuine fucking Veronica Lake fucking. He'll Roosevelt. She had some hooves. They were actual code who've Brio problems I've uncovered that the aloom. Nadi man is but in part of the presidency since the dawn of time still pretty hot DOE PREDATE CAL. Hoke is dangling and she doesn't even know it. Okay Becca time eighty years. I'm going to tell it. How many dangles? So they like. Okay cool this is like Jumanji town now. We have to go across the park. Because that's where the the nervous guy live. Yes so they set off on this adventure to do that along the way. We're losing all sorts of people that these monsters that are arrested for most gotta kill the Black Guy. Sorry David by the way minus twenty points for this movie always you gotTa Kill the Black Guy. I twice yes they do I. He gets brambles and he kind of goes crazy I guess so these these like Jumanji plants that were talking about they. Stick him with all of these. You know You know things. They're poised yes. Thank you go crazy. You kill a butterfly in the past. Suddenly it that means there's a super vine that kills and poisons your mind little shop a horrors also takes half this movie to figure out. Hey maybe we should travel by car. Like ideally theoretically in Chicago like Chicago Twenty. Five Time Wave Dude didn't happen you see how much a gallon is at the mobile non non now we take the feet route see. That's the thing it's like. They should go back like. Oh no we gotta go back real quick get a dinosaur to shoving my gas tank by the way. We skipped over something before they jump on this mission. It's a it's a thing where they're like all right. This is a quick fix. Ed Burns will just go back in time by himself. And he's he's going to go back to before they get there he's GonNa meet everybody and tell them to just go back through the tunnel. Don't even worry about it like this trip is bogus thank this is where he leaps to the fucking old. West for two seconds. And did you notice this in the cheapness? The absolute cheapness student film. -Ness of the green screen technology in this movie. It's it's a page right out of back to the future. Three he gets into the old West and there's a bunch of indigenous people on horseback riding towards him and he jumps down on the ground and they didn't even bother to fix this. The horses just stepped right over here. He's trampled but not like actually triple. You see computer. Horses ride oversee so tough like he like fucking seized his backup and there's something just as bad when when he has the fake lion on the table. Oh that's blocking half of him and it looks like they cut it out in fucking. Ms Paint dragged it over to the picture of Ed Byrne and let the manhunter scene but they were not think you bring that up because apparently his whole thing is like yeah part of this evil fucking company doing this stupid Safari thing so I can re map the DNA of animals because by two thousand fifty five. All animals have died on hurt or something. I forgot about thirty thirty eight years before this happens. There was a two things that all all animals died sure and then poacher started zoos. Incredible I missed that line entirely and then there was a virus that killed like all of the rest of the most wild animal and and some of the human those poachers going into cities. Zoos Puckett Batman villains the idea. You're going in with a shotgun one for the zoo please. Dude Fuck and Donald Trump. Junior is right there ready to do it. Why would you poach something in his zoo? What what what are you what you're doing when you're on these fuck dip shit asshole guided tours in Africa. Killing reserves are very controlled and you are just killing Shit Zoo. Do you have any idea how valuable and how rare a hippos victor is? That's true that's true to grinded up. You snorted and suddenly. You're dick gets hard. Unbelievable Post know where it is a wristband cool risk. What like my hip us. Victor's to Tanaka's stretch it out at the risk benefits. Where'd you get that lucky brand? No two hippos gotTa Zoo. Oh in the gift shop not exactly. Why does it smell like shit? They'll reason what's that around your neck. Giraffes Neck yes David low anyway is fucking pricked by these barbs and whatnot and he starts going crazy and then like all these. They're like baboon. Reptile things are chasing them all down. It's bad raptor with the face of a baboon that's and like it's just stupid mash up. It's not like smart wherein like the babboons face would be reptilian. That would make sense. No big old hairy baboon face on a row and their bulletproof for some reason also that except for the other thing can they fly because then the other ones don't really make any sense. We'll get to that when we get to that because it is a straight up. What are you doing releasing this especially because the other main animal monster is a big Bat? Jemma big is it's a it's a real bad cock-up Avenue Boon reptile like. Wow everything is different. I can't wait to see all of these monsters and the answer is you're Kinda just going to see these boone reptiles I'm sorry to say that's it he gets. He gets ravaged by those. They get this well. He's doing a bullshit. I'm sorry but he's doing a bullshit like I'm going to hold them off. Yes and in one of the funniest parts of this movie and I don't know what they're actually trying to convey here but he's like I'm just like shoot them or whatever you guys get. Outta here at Burns like yeah okay. That sounds great to be black guy. Perfect they all run away except for. Egbert WATCHES STANDS THERE. And what better? Because he's not doing this for nothing. If you're not taking the head start I am doing this also not fit him up like Elliott drives and just fucking give him a bomb yes and wait for them on an sure. I thought it was going to be ED. Burns was waiting till they all got close to him and then he was going to like hockey grenade or something. But he's like well he's gone and I want to get it in on that murdering that. Hey that fucking prick anyway. If we didn't feed the monkey lizards they WANNA die. You wanted a monkey lives. It's tie will. And he's this is where he starts and I think this explains his indifference to win. The like sister figure gets killed later. He starts with this line of thinking where he's like. Well if we succeed none of this will have happened anyway and David Osceola will will be alive so that even though you just go man like just go. I'll be fine. You just have to succeed in your mission. Burn starts killing his own friends because hey none of this matters. I could do whatever. I want McDonalds again. It's been twenty fucking years. Keep these washboard. Fuck could cheat. They cheat day so the fucking nervous guy does not have it. They inspect his place. Check his gym bag where he kept all his jump close. There's a stupid thing with as a grocery store. Whatever like their scavenging like. It's all knocked this movie. It's really fucking stupid and like every apartment building is like these chain link fences now with armed guards all of a sudden. It's like the walking dead. Yeah all of these closed community compounds or whatever you know. They're like oh we're just trying to look for this guy. The guys like Sharia were full up at Ed Burns like yeah all right well e the lettuce in or you have to fuck and kill us yet. Didn't think I'd say that. Did you. Wise Guy. Look fucking kill me me. Great by the way the scratching thing. It's so funny like this like a father son and again like attacked by apes for trying to look for wonder bread. It's not a quiet place it's an AP place because they're going to tech. I got it Eric. Are they attacked by quiet in a quiet place? Yeah got it got. It was die you go. You know. It's all you become quite quiet of the quieter coming. I didn't mind that movie but it's like if falls apart under any still. Have it still happy? It does future as sequence to sequences of some of the funniest cinematic suicides. You like that idea. Yes so you gotta go to the other guy he's uptown princesses another cast expert. Nothing it's it is dragging out that run tone. I don't know go ask Mister Owl. I how do I get back at time? Lick me what? How many licks until I come now by five on do by the way you have to be thirty. Five and up to commercial was that for tootsie. Pops looks at the center of intensity pop to pop on Youtube. I'm sure the commercials there. Somewhere in between kids fucking chugging down their throats whatever. What's the Butt chugging craze? I'll see you fuck it. I'll stick and all and eventually erode that's kind of the Lick I guess. Oh I guess so. No you're with just a retail. Sure just yeah that's cool. You could keep it up there. That's a question. How many how? How long does it? Take? How how? How many minutes to a to a lick straight develops a lick permitted or I don't know I don't think it's also what else would be important right. I mean I feel like twenty-five probably a full hour to really eat through that thing. You think. Full hour you're getting through that thing in your ass. Maybe maybe two hours days days. Watch how you sleep for you. Call in to dissolve tootsie roll. These stuck up there. Yeah Pop. Are you leaving the rest of the pop out? Or what do you mean I'll stick is to stick out our own? I would keep the stick in just in case I had to abort the mission you know what I mean. It's easier to walk around and I would say once you get to the the the actual tootsie roll inside just that just counselors shit now just about the candy coating it's just about the outer layers were having a thrilling conversation about it sounded thunder when all these started talking about shopping lollipops into science movie with faulty. Science were scientists to Philip Baker Hall. Line from boogie nights. I like lollipops butter up. My ask member some a simple man so this other guy is freaking the fuck out. He's firing a gun wildly at them when they to his he's been stuck by some of the brambles so he's like going crazy which. I think is a thing that they also wanted to work into this movie about like the infected whatever but it just goes nowhere one thing on their way to this guy's apartment. This is where they finally realized. Hey let's use a fucking car which I do and this is when there is a big bats. Bats on right. There's the worst line in any movie which happens all the time when it happens it like any movie where there needs to be somebody who has to break into a car and it was. How do we break car and someone does had put myself through medical school? Who are you like the German guy here? Like says like twenty fifty five. Yeah so I don't know let's say like maybe twenty four years something like this guy. Starting medical school with the way education costs keep rising. You're stealing cars dude. What are you Nicholas Cage stealing the sexiest of car smells more like Giovanni Ruby. See Yeah that's true in the movie realizes that they have one character too many so he gets eaten by. Bashar gets ripped away by bats and it is. I think Ed Burns. His spread the word to the rest of the crew. By the way. If anyone dies doesn't fucking matter all we gotta do is succeed in all back because this guy gets ripped out of his car. Nobody blinks your pain imaginary. GonNa go away Josie matter that you go through all these how. Let's just get in the car. Don't worry don't worry about him. He's gotTa be five. Put WRONGS BIT. Blew up at your. Did he just got done waved? Okay what I love about the song possession and don't worry about mind on your back is go back to either. Kt Real that's all gonna Revert Back Cox Fight. I could see it from the. Yeah I could see them. They're big boy. Big Spikes you. Oh boy I think we're still having phone sex with Eddie. I we've ruined. That's on forever. Yeah totally podcasts. For everyone him he kills himself. Jude in is hilarious. I always appreciate movies. When you get the Chucky roar before the suicide that's like he's like psyching himself out like he's yelling at Edward Burns like you better ball about you. Remember that there was no way to kill that character. And he's like yeah. That guy was like I'll take myself out of this movie totally off the board. You WanNa die screaming right absolutely. It's like hard to do that. So you WANNA start so while it happens. You're dying screen. Is Doing this with the Nice gunner with the normal gun? Regular regular just has all good old-fashioned bullet gun. I would love to do it with ice gun. Because brain freeze for a second like slurpee Is Creek Dude Conan. All give me a fucking cone ice cream gun. And then this is when they find the butterfly on his shoe and they're like. Oh Shit was a butterfly. Isn't that something? Isn't it though? So they go back to time Safari Inc. This is there like all right. We know what to do. We'll find the guy that will stop the One guy make sure he didn't do anything Blah Blah Blah at this point. She's already had this theory where she could send him back because Tammy is destroyed. They can't send her if they send it back to sixty five million years and one has sixty five million and one year and then she could slingshot him forward which is easier horse. Of course it's got something to do with jumping over the ripples of the time wave and I'm like dude shut up dude. She has this garbage laser pointer drawing an air like time ripples. And she's like as you can see from my group illustration we can't penetrate these time. Ripples all this bullshit yeah. That's what's happening so yeah. They determined that this is what they're going to do. And then it's like oh the places fucking flooded and the machine's broken but thank God. There is another one at university. All you have to do is grab the hard drive and this is when they find a Ben Kingsley who fucking opted out of the film Yup. His puppet is in the water. I feel like it was probably the other way around at one point like this dude. Klay like the government agent was just supposed to be seen floating in the water. And it's Ben Kingsley hiding in this closet and this guy's like hey could you keep it down you're gonNA wake the your no and they look up and this is where it makes no fucking sense because we just saw that these fucking monkey lizards hanging upside down in the laboratory and it doesn't. It's a thing where I just just like back back. I think it was supposed to be a third animal but again they just ran out of like budget to design the third animal disturbed animal another kind of Bat. Fucking sense just use the bat. We just saw the bat. Yeah it's Alliance snake. Yeah it hangs from a walk. I like the sound of that snake body with a lion's head very furry so this the merit furry snake now. We're talk fucking Marmot Dude. Look out take a ferret and cut its legs off and put it in the movie. Filmed that make getting larger. Do like crazy rear projection butchered. Animal tyrod Standard Burns. You have to defeat them. Defeat this into it. It costs so much money to get that Pete AC- at the end of the credits. Nobody looks at it anyway. Let's not cutting up fucking marmots. You cut your all you gotta do listen to you. Cut The legs off that Ferret when the time glide fixes it'll be. I have nothing to do it. We're not in the movie. Ferret doesn't know that but the puppet of Ben Kingsley. Kind of looks like the six flags great adventure old man. It'd be great if the puppet started answering the water. Matthew lesko drowned come with this guy and he said I can't. I'm too scared for some agrees that yeah they make this. I mean because every moving the coward situation. So that's this dude. Even though he's a barely a character So the the woman. Sonia is like all right. There's a particle accelerator at the university. If I just transfer my external hard drive to it it becomes this. Portal's let's go and then this dude like at the last second. Don't wait breaking the with you and all these fucking monkeys. Just kill this guy immediately. We should see it. We should see his hat off absolutely because we also didn't see allow it the swarm and you can't even get me like some garbage. Like red spray on their shape or like. I know you're not going to give me anything I like but maybe try. We do get something you like at the university for some reason at Burns changes as close. Oh yeah this this year we get a shot of his undies. Yeah Calvin Klein. Who Shabby is this back to the future? I thought it was shots. Fired AGAINST MARK. Wahlberg is eternal enemy. Oh Dude that's a great question. I mean I guess Mark Wahlberg is a better actor at Burns. Doesn't have a boogie nights. He doesn't have a buggy. Walberg definitely has more screen presence. Like you're you're more interested to see what what is this guy. What does this type of character? That Walberg is incredible at playing. Yes the one. He plays in three kings and boogie nights. Those kinds of like the tough guy should never worked for me with them but like a guy with a chip on her shoulder who was also kind of a loser. Look depart depart. Works perfectly for him now Chris Cabin just to derail his for a hot second but not to waste too much time. You recently saw this spenser for hire remain. I did indeed. So what's going on there Which which which character izzy there. Who's he's the he's the main care. No but is he like the guy. Yeah Yeah. He's a tough guy was part of the last time. He played a lovable loser. Kind of character. A game in game nattiest invincible movie was laid was earlier than paint that was on. Tv The other day. I watched a few minutes excruciating movie. Where he's the walk on quarterback for the jets or the eagles. The eagles pardon me. Pardon me the problem is is if you go that way and then go saccharine because that's that's fucking Rockstar. Movie States associates. Still haven't seen it. You will one day. You'll probably see pretty suit theaters dude so the Rock Fan. Yep Okay Rocks Rock Fan. Let's let's go use a card. Is You know we gotta use the subway for some reason any calls at the subway which not in Chicago friend. Oh No we're not in Queens. Let's take the already. It's neither because this is a fucking CGI. Like I don't even know what video game we walked into a walk through a subway car to the university has there's like while I think there's like something blocking go through like. Oh we'll just cut through this and this is like an in the video game of sound of Thunder. You would be like sort of like sensing that the game is coming to an end and then it's like now it's the subway level outfought. Come on I thought this game was over with and then you have to have to do to the next air bubble of pictures with the little fishes behind them. You can pause it and you check your status dude in somehow. You've only sixty five percent completed this movie and your son of so. Yeah there's a bunch mannequins here there's fucking cave in part of the tunnel falls like crushes. Well we see they were. They were GONNA go back initially blocking fake it looks. It looks like a worse than a window. Screen saver enough legal. Like if you think about like making this movie like I feel so terrible for these people like yes. You had act on whatever fucking playground garbage setup. This was the lie that all movies now have which is like all of our actors where it's like it's GonNa Look Great Trust me. It's GonNa look amazing and you have as the actor. You have to have faith in the production that that's going to be true exactly because you're like well all right. I got sent like they'll probably show you like some test images or whatever like this is what's GonNa look like. This is what you're supposed to be looking at you know this is fucking Liam. Neeson's that talking lion. This is a story dailies. That's the thing that's what this movie is. The antomatic became the final. Do when this season AAC shows up it. Looks like he'll from Mario. Sixty four looks exactly like started. Its Tail Yup Yup. Oh it's so fucking bad and so this thing you I get it you get like little tail come over the water's edge you know and it should be like following movie logic. It should have like the head of Larry King or sums. It should be. If we're doing that. You gotta try the Bagels out of Fairfax right across the water from booklet question from Brooklyn. How do you taste expand on that? He's asked that before. We've got Edward Burns here and by here. I mean in my snake belly. Oh you being digested the ghostbusters. Dance the night away Yeah so like whatever like the sister friend I just chomps right down and Ed Burns again like totally whenever you? You know what? We'll fix it in post. So she's dead and then like the thing they do shoot it. Is it gets wraps up. Edward Burns really badly a heart at really badly. Oh my God. This is cheap food that we're looking at us. Cg Legs Do. This is awful water. We like get some prop department make a slithery looking at. What would you need Max? Eight feet wrap it around some real fucking legs and do some sort of practical show. You think went. Tarintino would like fake legs. What he'd be like that's in authentic man. What you're asking does Quentin Tarantino Jerk. Off to nanny from the muppet babies or not right. Exactly and well. She Ain't showing nothing no but she's got the shoes dude fucking cavs on that lady. Juneau's old ladies sneakers turning anybody on. Its first of all. It's hurting someone. All right through fair point I mean asking this. Let me ask you. Did you cut my feet pictures with CGI? Did you cut both Q T? I don't think he's a shoe person. It's really good. You got to see them Tutsies Dude. That's a fucking BOOT SNEAKER. Montauk about at Tizi Pop. Listen Jan always wanted the fucking mothers from the those muppet babies to step on my balls. Char- Charlie Brown's right steps on them our way. But what happens this fucking thing though? Does he kill so she does? Not The there's a crush because citizens brushed the thing is stuck in the subway partially just wrapped it up at wrapped up Ed Burns with its tail. Then it gets crushed when the ceiling above it falls because there's a fake out here where he's like dad or you think he's GonNa Die Right. We'll know the fake out of like he's like you gotTa hold your breath for a long time the longest you ever held it. You're on the swim team. Jim Coat and she's like okay. God we're going to beat those Brooklyn Fox Quaid's they're underwater. Whatever and then like the thing rates head like breaks through the window but it's just dead or something yes yeah. I think it's at the very end of all this because she does swimming. Cpr on him. Well I wish I would've loved if this was just her? Don't worry when we go back in time. Travelling you'll be fine honestly should use the other night. Only this boat doesn't sit. Pain fills the lines. He goes stay close to me. Take the deepest breath in your life and then go for Chit track. He's a scientists the fucking university. She puts the thing in. Oh like he has to put on his time pants because he can't you cannot time travel. And this is where the Calvin Klein on these come in. You got to get some fuck in cargo pants on the hell that makes sense. Sure even the jacket to a sense of the gloves but pants pants. It's fucking denim. Do stand some time travel. That's awesome I don't sell jeans now. Distressed Fuck you complain. I had a boy come back to me. Skin turned to Denham. Denham was invented. When Moses brought down the tablets and then he started washing pants on it. And that's why I don't watch the grooves of the Gods letters that got you know. God carved it in South Yup. Those grooves helped to wash. Oh for sure. Yeah you really got on the T. Ashley commandment will really get mud out. Which was Ed again? I think that's that's stealing or is it murder too. Big One kill is six. I thought what's first freedom of speech. I think one is your God. There shall not be and the other before me That's a good one. Are you looking up commandments? Tom Petty Against Fifty fifty. God would command you not to play anymore. Tom Petty theft me at least change it to. It's good to be carrying a show that e tunes is not for explicit. It's for educational suit. Probably tell them what the commandments are. While Steve is looking this up these monkeys chastening by the way and they're trying to get into the facility is kill five kill six adultery. Damn it so killing sexiest chain different. Is it like it's descending order so like adultery is a little less last number one is can't ever have anybody other than me? It's like Hey I'm your number. One exclusive yeah exactly okay. You don't go. They were talking about. Osama monitor and then they literally broke down mid-table anyone's complaining go put a lollipop but I think that might take a week. It depends on how how hot your ass is bigger about in the back of my mind Jalapenos. Summer is your ass sweating. Look if you're going to go and hang out with your false false idols at the globe later. I WANNA pin. I wanted to ask every ten minutes. Bagley or go through quick. The number two is. Don't take my name in vain and also when you're out with your fucking friends. Don't you talk to not put my name in your fucking mouth crisis guys? I don't want to hear what they think about me. I do remember keep holy the Sabbath Day. That's number talk Sunday. You were coming over to my fucking house every fuck Sunday games on. It can be a beer babe. I don't care if your mother is in the fucking hospital. Today's my day okay. We understand number four. Honor Your father. Your mother worked really nothing to do with how you turned out. She Dodo bus. You fucking dad's balls okay. Guy Works fucking hard. That guy worked overtime for you away. They said something bad about me. Okay yeah maybe fuck okay maybe fuck them all right now that we're getting into the drugs you don't kill nobody. Okay listen that heat on. It's not the most important thing if we got you all right number one absolutely do never never say my fucking name you son of a bitch but I guess eventually if you have to try not to kill. No one okay. I'll tell you if you do fucking kill someone you go to jail. Every faulk could Sunday. You better be in my house Nad to basics. Don't fuck nobody other than your wife. Okay look ahead to their but listen. I'm also a little realistic. So now my creation is GonNa make some mistakes. Look it's good for me bad for you. Look that's how it's going to go don't steal not okay a unless I tell you if I tell you to kill steal something you should deal in in the name of my God nine then number eight do not bear false witness against nobody. You didn't see nuts aches. Niches get stitches. July it's actually a reference to lying but yeah the number nine. Don't jerk off to your neighbor's wife. Okay do do me a favor. Don't covet nobody else. Just keep it up in your head. You know what I mean. Well you can't even keep it at all you know that's part of the sand. I could read your brain Dando. Don't count anybody else's money okay. What what he's got money. You'RE GONNA Apple. Tv NUMBER TEN. Well nine was. Don't jerk off. Power Leeway lasts about me but kickabout remember neighbor's husband dog chick. Nicolas says it's okay with their with their dogs doesn't Semites goods category though is a dog a good or is it talking to Bible. Times definitely a good toughening neighbor's husband. Did I mean you know you can go for it? You want to do that in a fucking down law man. I mean I've seen people are also goods in Bible Times true. Don't count his money unless you steal his money and then we count them money together but really just fucking keep my name out of your fucking mouth and just make sure you're not thinking about mature in Dole fucking talk to anybody else uttered in me and if you'll end the church and Southie don't lie to me and tell me on a church northeast. I like we got here for stone. Wash Jeans Yep that works so all of the thought thread. Do they have like a stilted romantic kiss? He goes back a dive she. The final time wave is coming. This is the funniest she turns into a sad fish. Person Fish C. Fucking spike is the camera. Yes her is just blink. Discuss it 'cause it's a fish with feet? Yes Oh shit at Burns actually got hit by the time we have to. And he turned into Ed Norton fucked. So yeah he goes back in time and the whole thing is he's going to like hide out. Make sure that the dude doesn't stop on the butterfly but then also you know. Well how are we going to remember this because if we just reset it? We're not going to learn any lessons so he runs up to the woman who's filming everything and just like yells into her medical care for these when all went back in time. Five million one years. So he's like this is what happened. You GotTa let fuck and Klay Now. Because then he can shut us down and refined look on wordlessly telling you that. Don't worry there's two of me yes. Don't worry but listen to this one. That wants to make sure you use you. Tape the hollow crown and you put in your pocket. Give it only to me not anybody else. 'cause they're crooked yeah and then He. The Dude is about to fall off the bridge. He catches him. That's all totally fine. And the guys like screaming and like as Screaming Ed. Burns like is raised. That timelines can funny. But does he. I want him to go back and see her. As a fish turned to a fish upsell or maybe time wave what happened turns into a fish there back in the past everyone including his other. Self shoot a look at some of these fucking Dino Monster. I could see that happening. So like yeah. He goes back and it's all totally fine and then she's like here. You have to take a look at this. He watches it then. He goes back to Sonia's house and is like. Hey you know blah blah blah. You need to take a look at this and watch it. Whatever I mean. It's weird though. All he says is like I don't even know what he's what he's like. It's not really relevant. Let's not I think. He says the bio filter. Maybe she will sheet. The figure tells clay. Hey by the way I know about the Bio Filter. She says something like you turn that back on and she liked pats on the shoulders. Good boy yeah. But I don't know he's got fucking. I got real evidence here. Want a cup of coffee and of movie absolutely Yup. That was like the stupidest decision you can make. Yes because either. End It when this thing is solved. Yes and if you'RE GONNA go into a whole movement about like we have to figure this long you have to do all of it. I'm going to hate it. I'M GONNA scream. Yeah but are you. GotTa do it. I'll do like a winking line to Ben Kingsley. That he knows he's fucked just like hey needs to send say the bio filter line to Ben in the movie anymore. No He's not no. They left US puppet back. They're not. There is a scene or a bit where the other guy goes and confront like Ben Kingsley. Like we're in trouble and you see them like talking on a catwalk took out of focus talking on a catwalk couldn't couldn't that. Maybe not it's white. Wake you WanNa have a cup of coffee slash sixty nine before we go Do this science project. It's so bad it needs to be something it's nothing it's absolutely nothing I will say. I think the best part of this movie because I left it on. I had like Like a wireless headset on walking around like you know putting glasses in the same whatever's to lift the credits on the score of this movie at least at the end credits. I don't remember what it's doing in the movie is actually pretty. Okay okay. I was like all right. This is like some good orchestration. I found myself like looking out the window at one point. That's right thinking about me. You'll be made me feel like. I was eating batteries. So nothing really stuck on beyond you there. You're not a robot. Yes it might hurt me with anybody recommend this movie though I would not. It's not it's I mean like honestly watched the first five minutes and see how cheap that dinosaur is you and then punch out. Because that's all you need the babboons look like Shit Tom. Ed Burns his terrible. There's no you kind of want a good team around him to sort of come to interesting ends. That doesn't happen either. You get nothing that you wanted to terrible absolutely. Do Not Watch this. I'm almost thinking this it's borderline. Seeing is believing because I can't believe this film agreed. I can't believe this flew under my radar for many years But I wouldn't recommend it 'cause it's absolute garbage but if you want a bad bad movie get you get the boys arounds. Truly inexplicable doing drugs all night. It's been awhile it's had one of those and I. I could see that happening. It's four a m like some of them passed out. It's hot in the room since pop one of their assets just to see how this great and then you start reading the Commandments. When you get bored of Ghanaian assure I was Steve? Absolutely not I would say stick until you see. Ben Turns Air. Yeah you gotTa get past the T. REX to the hair. Even some of the cousin play. Hey why not no? It's awful. It's terrible yeah. This is complete trash. The thing that I'm curious about is what all they decided to put in the trailer of this movie. Yuga question Because my God if you showed this dinosaur in this trailing cat you can't I mean what are we doing? Yeoman's a lot of Ed Burns. Oh No it's getting worse. It's a shot the dinosaur and the song everybody do the done is over the door. Get out everybody. Do everybody walk the dinosaur. I think it is one of those who cares the plank. It's just pirated footage from Jurassic Park. That is a sound of thunder directed by Peter. Hi and you want more. We hate movies checkout Patriot dot com slash. We hate movies where this month for listening to request month the we love movies. Bonus episode is indeed Ferris. Buehler's Day off. We recorded at the Super Fun APP. You'RE GONNA love it. We were coordinated one time attack commentary. 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Introducing Confronting: O.J. Simpson

Over My Dead Body

08:38 min | 2 years ago

Introducing Confronting: O.J. Simpson

"OJ simpson. NFL superstar accused killer convicted robber and kidnapper, the O J Simpson, murder trial, was one of the most public legal battles in American history, the horrendous crime and courtroom drama that followed it captivated, the media, and the public the trial is still debated discussed and depicted in the media to this day. But what happened to the people who this trial affected? Most the new podcast confronting OJ Simpson explores that question host Kim Goldman sister of murder victim. Ron Goldman digs deep into the vicious crime, that changed her life and many others forever in this ten part series. Kim takes you on a journey as she reclaims reflects on the events that permanently changed her life. She sits down with prosecutors investigators and witnesses who never got to speak and jurors who voted not guilty. It's a new and intimate look at a crime that still sticks with us to this day. Here's a preview of confronting OJ Simpson while you're listening go subscribe to confronting OJ Simpson on apple podcasts, Spotify, or ever. You get your podcast. You can also find a Lincoln the episode notes. OJ Simpson was born in San Francisco until I nine nineteen forty seven I brother Ronald Lyle, Goldman was born in Chicago suburb on July second nineteen sixty eight otas parents separated when he was five he was raised by his mother, our parents, divorced when Ron was six, we were raised by our father. Fred as a teenager Otake got into trouble, but turned his life around through football as teenager, Ron spent summers as a camp counselor, and played literally baseball OJ was recruited by USC one Heisman Trophy and was the number one NFL draft pick in nineteen sixty nine he went on to have a hall of fame career. Ron attended college for a semester in Illinois before we all moved to Los Angeles after retirement. OJ worked as a sports commentator, and actor and spokesperson Ron worked as a recruiter a tennis coach and a waiter. Ron plan to open his own restaurant and bar on June twelfth nineteen ninety four O J attended his daughter's dance recital with his ex wife, Nicole and her family. They went to dinner at Mezzaluna restaurant to celebrate OJ wasn't invited. On June twelfth nineteen Ninety-four, Ron was working as a waiter, a Muslim restaurant, his shift ended, and he headed to Kohl's house to return a pair of sunglasses that night, the two men cross paths at the home of Nicole Brown Simpson, what happened next altered families change lives and reset American culture. Forever. This is confronting OJ Simpson. I'm your host Kim. Galvin. This podcast is about confronting the last twenty five years of my life, about my brother's murder, and the trial, and everything that came with that. And I know that it's going to be painful for me. So I wanted to make sure that I've got someone walking this journey with me that I can trust. I can rely on and Nancy glass was the perfect choice because she was a journalist at the time of my brother's murder trial. And I figured she would just she would get it. I think a lot of people don't know that you and your brother were unusually close, and you also both were unusually close with your dad. My birth mom left, when my brother and I were three and a half and six she I guess didn't wanna be a mum. And my dad didn't want to not be dead. And it was just my dad, Ron. And I growing up, we were the three musketeers. We just stuck together like glue. My brother was my best friend. He was my protector, when we had a horrible car extent. My brother was the one that pulled me from the car. That's out with me until the ambulance came sat with me in the hospital and you almost died and you went blind for a while. Yeah. And there was, my brother hold, my hand and cracking jokes and still trying to keep me a beat and positive we were just two peas in a pod. My dad's pretty amazing and he created an amazing relationship between my brother and I and you mother abandoned knew she was pretty absent for a majority of our upbringing. I probably went after having wanting to have a relationship with her more than my brother. Did he wanted to keep her in his mind at a certain age, because that was the most positive memory that he had of her on the one that kept going back she showed up periodically to tell me I was worthless, basically. And then she showed up, my brother died, did she offer you any comfort? Now she called me a bitch while we were in court. Yeah. How there's no comfort there. You know, this is one of those things that I feel the, the bittersweet about my brother's case being so public was that people get to know these two amazing guys that raised me, and my dad. That is exactly how people have seen him and how people have not him and grew to know him over the last twenty five years full of passion, and dedication, and love, and this level of fierceness and commitment to his family. That's there's no, there's no lie there, and that Bush that daddy mush pure love for his family. We're going to get to know him a little bit. And but one person we aren't going to get to talk to his run. Autopsy report nine four dash zero five one three five and autopsy on the body of Goldman. Ronald external examination the body is that of a well developed well nourished Caucasian? Male stated to be twenty five years old. The body ways one hundred seventy one pounds measuring sixty nine inches from crown to Seoul, the heroine's scowl is Brown and straight. The irises appear Hazel with the pupils fixed, and dilated. Have you ever watched the news heard about some violent crime, and then suddenly realized that they're talking about your family? I have. Ron and Nicole killed on June twelfth and the news broke on June thirteenth. You were in your car, most of the day, driving for work. I heard a lot on the news all day long about the coal Brown murdered with another person. I walked in the house. Still gets me. A walked in the house, Patty yelled out. Fred, fred. There's someone on the phone something about Ron. And. Perform. And they said, this is the LA coroner's office. And I said, why would you be calling me? And she said. Did you hear on the news today about the coal Brown ping murder? I so what does that have to do with me? And she said. Sought. Your son was the other victim. What crazy? I want crazy. And I said, what are you talking about? How do you know? I walked over to the Petiot door and I looked out into the backyard. And I just tell myself staring and screaming at the same time. That I realized that the next thing to do is contact you. That was the second than most gut wrenching moment of life. I didn't want you to find out any other way, that was just a preview of confronting OJ Simpson to hear the rest of the episode. And to follow me on this journey. Please subscribe to confronting OJ Simpson on apple podcasts Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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OJ's Jersey Returns

The Lead

21:14 min | 1 year ago

OJ's Jersey Returns

"Yesterday afternoon the Buffalo Bills Rattled off their sixth win of the season could be the there now six into and in second place in the AFC East behind the Patriots though to be fair there in a division with the jets and the dolphins so trip trip but at the game yesterday and on the previous couple of weekends something has been happening that hasn't happened for forty two years a buffalo bills player has been wearing number thirty to the same number worn by O. J. Simpson the number was never retired but it was taken out of circulation until this past summer when a new player came along and was told it was available the athletics Tim Graham Ram who has been covering Buffalo Sports almost twenty years broke that story and so today we're going to speak with him about the guy who's wearing number thirty two why hi in the world he would want to do that and how OJ Simpson is remembered in Buffalo. Today you will see hundreds of people wearing number thirty two simpson jerseys in in the stands on Sunday afternoons for Bills Home Game and it's not being done ironically from wondering and the athletic I'm under Scelzo Aalto and I'm Cathy Davidson it's Monday November fourth and this is the lead it felt like something was take the emotion and over the past don't matter because you it it stays with you hey tim how's it going honors it's going great good dear from you so the bills are off to a rather impressive start I'd say they're one of the surprise stories of the season so far would you agree I would would but they've been crashing back to Earth a little bit the Miami Dolphins put a scare into them and that's never a good sign and then they come into the next game against Philadelphia via also at home and they got destroyed thirty one to thirteen so it looks as though the bills are on their way to the playoffs but bills fans have seen in this before I don't know tim you sound like a jaded buffalo sports reporter I've seen this before I've seen this act once or twice all right so tim we're here today to talk about a little known player named scenarist Perry who is doing something I don't know bold strange he's wearing OJ Simpson's number thirty two Jersey can you just tell us a little bit about his background Sonora Perry was born in September nineteen ninety one so he he was only two years old when the Bronco Chase happened and he never saw Oj Simpson play but he is a running back it's by definition but he's a special teams player and he's a very good special teams player what what was the adjustment like for you going from a guy who was running back his whole career to hemming and cried and special teams was there did you have to rewire your brain a little bit oh she was still football football play you could do anything and it's not me rewire my mind I always do especially my whole life when you as a high school you would wanna go our now trying to kill people like me I feel like I'm GonNa Kamikaze sometimes on kickoff and the bill signed him as a free agent this off season for that reason he he was an undrafted player out of Louisville and has just a handful of carries in the NFL but he has worn thirty two his entire life life California my whole life and my grandfather was twenty three and twenty three backwards thirty two so my uncle's decided to start win thirty two I think they look great thanks coming I felt like it was something for family like it meant a whole lot so and he wore it when Sonora Perry was with the Chicago bears he wore number thirty to want to wear it with the Miami Dolphins but Kenyan drake already had it and so he he comes to the buffalo bills how did the conversation happened in Buffalo when it came time for you to pick a number I didn't really have a conversation it was more so it was more so hey we have thirty two available and I wasn't it wasn't no second option to meals more so okay yeah that number and the back of my head I thought it was retired but just went ahead and let it go as ill conceived of Eli Okay I'm willing to ended and Tim for those who don't know or don't remember just remind us how good of a football player was Oj Simpson and what did he mean to the city of Buffalo Hello he was the first nationally known superstar in Buffalo Sports the lead the NFL and rushing four times he led the NFL and rushing touchdowns twice and of course becoming the first running back to surpassed ask two thousand yards J. O. J. running to the last corner to thirty eight hundred five hundred twenty does that he broke the record they are while he's playing in buffalo is on on Monday night football as a as a broadcaster he is doing the Olympics he is in national commercial campaigns like hurts nobody has more of what it takes to get you into TV or other by car he is in in buffalo at that time was something that really took this town by storm and he is still remembered in those terms by a lot of people in this area so OJ plays a total of nine seasons with the buffalo bills then spends a couple of more or less forgettable seasons with the San Francisco Forty niners and then retires tires in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine so at that time what do the Buffalo Bills do with his Jersey number the buffalo bills took OJ Simpson's Jersey out of circulation Galatian and it was never to be worn again and that decision was presumably made by the bills owner Ralph Wilson what was Oj Simpson's relationship with Wilson like it was a complicated complicated relationship while he was still playing for the bills because OJ was frustrated that a lot of quality teammates were not sticking around because the bills were trading them or letting them walk in Free Agency according to what O. J. Simpson told me Ralph Wilson has said to him why would what I want to get to the playoffs because then I have to pay everybody if we don't make the playoffs I only have to pay you. OJ If we get really good then I have to pay everybody you made it an awful lot of money with OJ Simpson but had an affinity for him as a person and clearly respected him and and he was a beloved player so they take his his jersey out of circulation no one is allowed to wear OJ Simpson's number thirty two for years after he leaves the bills and then of course in one thousand nine hundred four we all know what happened happened on June Seventeenth Nineteen ninety-four OJ Simpson became the most famous fugitive on the planet lease radio you know saying that Simpson the passenger in the car has a gun at his head do you have a sense for how the city of Buffalo and maybe bills els fans in particular responded to that trial when it was happening given OJ's sort of larger than life persona in the city I think there were probably I believe to places where it was more surreal than anywhere else in the first place is in southern California and the other place would be Buffalo New York because Oj Jay throughout his time at USC of course he became a star in Los Angeles and he remained a star in Los Angeles doing movies. I hi you Buddy Hackett is this week and back on the voice was always a half L. A. Half Buffalo and and so they're still a little bit of detachment but this is where OJ Simpson played his in the NFL this OJ Simpson is wearing during buffalo bills gear on the cover of sports illustrated OJ Simpson is wearing buffalo bills gear on national television he brought a lot of pride ride to buffalo there was a tourism campaign at one point in Buffalo which people still say today and Oj still says it he has been on my radio show and he will always say when he first comes on buffalo talk and proud talking proud was the thing that buffalo did as part of its you know inferiority the already complex it's near Toronto there's a second city element to Buffalo always trying to you know the steel mills are closing at this time buffalo had a lot of hard times and went it through so much turmoil but Oj Simpson was there and on Sundays he was one of the main reasons the main reason was where you could talk proud about the buffalo they wanted to carry it again and so you take it back to a time in which people are losing losing their jobs all over the place the economy is falling apart of the first stages of what becomes the rust belt is happening all around but Oj Simpson going to rush for one hundred and eighty yards on Sunday and maybe the bills are going to win so he brought a lot of pride to the people of Western New York and to see what was happening happening and the Bronco Chase is everybody was riveted to their televisions it was yeah it was surreal so if you've ever needed a higher for your business you know that it can be a slow and painful process but not with ziprecruiter that's cafe alturas a COO Dylan Moskowitz turned to Ziprecruiter when he needed to hire a director of coffee for his organic coffee company Ziprecruiter identifies people with the right experience so you get qualified candidates fast dillon also used their candidate rating feature to filter his applicants so you could focus on the most relevant ones and that's how he found his new director of coffee in just a few days with results like that it's no wonder four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day seaway ziprecruiter is effective for businesses of all sizes trust Ziprecruiter for free at our web address ziprecruiter DOT COM mm-hmm slash lead it's also a great way to support our show that ziprecruiter dot com slash L. E. A. D. ziprecruiter dot com slash lead ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire it seems like after all of that goes down the bills have a really difficult decision to make if they keep OJ's number out of circulation than it looks like they're continuing to honor him but if they put his number back into circulation than it kind of reminds everyone of OJ right well at this time Oj Simpson's thirty two has been out of circulation for sixteen years and it's easy to maintain the status quo his thirty two you and his name is on the bills wall of fame inside the stadium his bronze bust is at the pro football hall of fame Canton his thirty two is retired at USC Jay has been inducted into the college football hall of fame and is the first buffalo bills to be honored in the pro pro football hall of fame OJ Simpson ever in shrine in the greater buffalo sports the and I should point out that none of these organizations the NFL Hall of fame the College Football Hall of fame or USC who retired his number none of them have made any changes either no one has withdrawn his membership or dishonored him in any way best right and I think really there is strength in the numbers I guess it makes it easier when nobody else does it now the pro football hall of fame very quickly came out and said we are not going to remove OJ Simpson's bust we're not going going to strip him of his hall of fame membership and I think once the pro football hall of fame does that it allows the other organizations the buffalo bills included to say well they're not GonNa do it we don't have to step up and do it either kind of gets everybody off the hook and especially in buffalo where people do remember him as a football player where his name is still on the wall of fame where people still have his Jersey you will see hundreds of people wearing number thirty two simpson jerseys in the stands on Sunday afternoons for a bills home game and it's not being done ironically it's not being done to be you know to try to be funny it's you know there are people who remember him as the greatest buffalo bill ever so there are a lot of people who believed that you can still separate the art from the artist and we're talking about it lately with R Kelly or with Michael Jackson people who are willing to separate OJ Jason Art which was a beautiful running back from who he is as a person who many people believe he is as a person what was OJ's relationship elation ship with the bills like after he retired and after the homicide trial in retirement OJ Simpson Ralph Wilson became friends he would be shown at the Games that he would come in quietly or at least try to be but inevitably somebody would take his picture sitting in a in a suite everybody knew that he was he was there as the guest of the Buffalo Bills and I think that you can see Ralph Wilson's respect for Oj Simpson over the years not even after the double murder trial and all of the controversy that OJ Simpson has created in his infamy In that Ralph Wilson always refused to give out number thirty two he would not let anybody else where it and that was something that he had told people is all right when I'm dead you you can do whatever you want with number thirty two but as long as I'm alive and I'm the owner of the buffalo bills nobody else will ever wear that Jersey Loss Mr Wilson is going to be felt for a long on long time for Wilson the bills organization was his fam- Ralph Wilson then died in two thousand fourteen and yet OJ's number continued to stay out of of circulation so what do you know about the decision behind that status quo and to come in as new owners TERI and Kim Gula and all of a sudden just make it available I think what the bills were doing we're wait was waiting for somebody to ask for it and Sonora Perry said he wanted wanted to wear number thirty two said he could wear since then told the athletic whatever they do is fine with me and I should say hey this decision hasn't been the most popular why would you give it out because we're having a discussion about Oj it which we shouldn't be having the discussion about Oj and my questionnaires young man why would you want this dirty and tim what it's North Perry tell you about his decision to wear number thirty two does even associated with Oj Simpson scenarist Perry I think had to really haven't explained to him before okay before we make this official you do know everything about Oj Simpson what he meant meant to this organization on as a football player what he's meant as a touchstone really in history but I never knew any of this into two I got older which is in high school when I started really understanding because I just went thirty two does my uncle's word and what's been the reaction among fans it has it generated a buzz at all or is it sort of just been flying under the radar it has flown under the radar and what his muted this story to a a large degree is that Sonora

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May 19, 2020: Brian Reader Arrested

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12:59 min | 1 year ago

May 19, 2020: Brian Reader Arrested

"Today is Tuesday may nineteenth twenty twenty on this day in Twenty fifteen notorious Efe. Brian Reader was arrested in connection with one of the largest burglaries in English history. Welcome to today in. True crime podcast. Original due to the graphic nature of today's crimes listener discretion is advised extreme. Caution is advised for listeners under thirteen. Today we're covering the capture of seventy six year old. Brian Reader who was arrested after stealing fourteen million pounds worth of jewellery and cash from a safe deposit box facility. Let's go back to London in the early hours of the morning of May Nineteenth Twenty fifteen. Brian Reader woke up early that day. He yawned and shuffled to the stove where he put on a pot of tea for a while. Everything was calm just the way he liked it. He'd been living on the edge for over fifty years. It was nice to have some peace but even in the quietest moments reader was ready for trouble after all. It had only been six weeks since he and five other. Elderly men had pulled off a history-making heist though he'd cut and run in the middle of the job to ensure he got away clean. He worried the law would catch up with him soon so he wasn't too surprised when the police suddenly showed up at his door on May nineteenth. He didn't put up a fight as they dragged him away. How could he? He was seventy six years old. He could hardly make it to his mailbox without wheezing even so reader cursed under his breath as the authorities took him to the station. He never should have gotten involved. The HATTON GARDEN BURGLARY. Thieving wasn't as simple as it used to be. Now there were cellphones complicated alarms. And those damn touchscreens. It had sounded almost poetic when he and his old mates had planned it out one last big job. He thought he had nothing to lose. But as usual he was wrong at the station. Detectives informed him. They'd rounded up almost all of his crew. All of them elderly except for his son. Paul reader snorted at the absurdity. Paul had never committed a crime in his life. He'd raised the boy right. The police disagreed. They shoved a stack of phone records in reader's face as if he could even read them without his glasses it was just another. Technological mixup reader. Didn't have his own cell phone so he used his sons to plan the job and contact his associates. All the surveillance in the world and the authorities still manage to grab the wrong guy but as readers soon learned the cops new more than they let on. They've been listening to his friends conversations for weeks. The idiots had been caught on tape talking openly about the burglary calling it. The biggest robbery in the world and cursing reader by name for running away in the middle of it in the coming weeks reader. Herded dozen of the recordings police obtained. They subjected him to more than an hour of inane. Rambling Banter in which the foolish old men in his crew talked about buying a monkey with their ill-gotten spoils by that time. The arrests had made headlines around the world reader saw his face plastered across the front pages of every major paper in France they were known as the Granddad Gang. While back in Britain they were called the diamond geezers. The army or the old bloggers reader had to admit it was pretty funny. The whole scheme had been ludicrous. That's what attracted him to in the first place. A bunch of washed up old thieves going out to prove they still had their stuff. It had been fun getting back in the game. When they'd sped away from the safe deposit building with millions of pounds. He felt the thrill of being young again for one last moment but he knew it was never just about escaping with the cash. You had to stay gone fly under the radar and the more ambitious the job the more important. It was to keep your trap shut. Of course the years had taught him patience and acceptance to they could put him away if they light but it wouldn't be so bad as reader sat in the court room after his arrest and listened to the jury sentenced him to six years in prison. He smiled. It was a fitting end to a story worthy of a movie coming up. We Discuss Brian Readers role in the largest burglary in the history of England podcast listeners. I have some big news. Regarding the critically acclaimed series famous fates although season one has ended the franchise still lives on starting may thirteenth. The famous fates feeble feature season two titled Falls From Grace Available. Only on spotify join Carter and I as we return to examine some of the most accomplished and controversial people to ever live. You'll discover what drove these history makers to be so successful in their respective fields and what led to their alternate disgrace available for free and only on spotify falls from grace will release two episodes a week over twelve weeks. Each focusing on the fame and shame of a notable figure from O. J. Simpson and Marie Antoinette. To Howard Hughes and Elizabeth homes. You'll dive into a rich variety of impactful stories from every aspect of history there shocking drama disturbing details and all the indepth research that you've come to expect from us and most importantly these episodes are all free and only available on spotify. Famous fates falls from grace is a podcast original starting may thirteenth. Two new episodes released every Wednesday listened free and only on spotify now back to the story on May Nineteenth. Two Thousand Fifteen seventy six year. Old thief. Brian Reader was arrested in connection with the Hatton Garden safe deposit burglary reader with five other. Elderly men broke into the safe deposit building six weeks earlier. The crew absconded with around fourteen million pounds in jewelry and cash the equivalent to around seventeen point five million dollars. Reader was the mastermind behind the heist and planned for weeks to infiltrate the basement facility. He decided to strike over Easter weekend. When the businesses would be closed on the day of the job the diamond geezers as they came to be known disabled the elevator in the Hatton Garden. Safe Deposit building. Then they climbed down the shaft to the basement and breached concrete walls that were over a foot thick. The thieves used an industrial power. Drill angle grinders and crowbars to bore holes in the concrete until it was possible to climb through and access the safe deposit boxes inside but after more than an hour of drilling. The gang ran into a problem. The tools they brought weren't going to cut it beyond the concrete was the solid steel backside of a safety deposit box. They would somehow need to push this aside. The realization caused a protracted argument among thieves. Two of them reader and a man named Carl would eventually decided. The payoff wasn't worth the risk. The longer they spent on the job the greater the chance that someone would hear the worrying and pounding of the power tools. The rest of the crew disagreed. They stood to make a killing and the plan was still salvageable. They just had to go back home and get more tools after all they were about to make history and this was possibly the last job they would ever pull in the end reader and would refuse to be swayed. They split in the middle of the heist leaving the other. Four members of the gang to pick up new tools and try to break through the wall again after several more hours the steel was breached. The old men climbed inside the vault and made quick work of the safe deposit boxes. They ended up cracking. Open seventy three boxes storing the loot in gigantic trash bins on wheels. Then without being spotted. They rolled the garbage cans out of the building and made off with over seventeen million dollars the largest burglary in English history. Police were initially baffled by the scene. Among the shattered concrete and discarded debris several heavy duty tools had been left behind completely free of fingerprints or hair fibers. It was clearly an organized job conducted by a group of experienced professionals however their experience became their downfall the old men were known thieves and therefore climbed to the top of the suspect list after bugging the phones and cars of their suspects. Police quickly got more than enough evidence to convict them. The clearly knew how to steal the old men were not as careful once they were away from. The scene of the crime recordings caught them all but admitting to have pulled off the job and patting each other on the back for reliving their youths in the end all six of the diamond geezers pleaded guilty and were sentenced to prison. Brian Reader was meant to serve a six year sentence which has lawyer said would likely mean he'd be in prison for the rest of his life. He was released after three years. In the tapes released by police one of the culprits had claimed if we get nicked. At least we can hold our heads up that we had a last go. Perhaps in the end it was all worth it to the men. They proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that thieving isn't just a young man's game. Thanks for listening to today and true. Crime. I'm Vanessa Richardson today. In true crime is a podcast original. You can find more episodes of today in True Crime. And all other podcast originals. For Free on spotify not only does spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy. All of your favorite podcast originals. Like today true crime for free from your phone. Desktop or smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify. Just open the APP and type today in true crime in the search bar at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast twitter at podcast network? We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in True Crime. Today in true crime was created by Max Cutler and is a podcast studios original it is executive produced by Max Cutler. Sound design by one Boorda with production assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden and Freddie Beckley. This episode of today and true crime was written by Tara Wells with writing assistance by Abigail. Cannon. I'm Vanessa Richardson.

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#181 - OJ Simpson Blocked Ethan After Getting Burned On Twitter

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2:19:26 hr | 1 year ago

#181 - OJ Simpson Blocked Ethan After Getting Burned On Twitter

"Into Hey Papa here Baba John and you're listening to the H. Three podcast go ethan. Goya well thank you papa. John I appreciate the Intro how Nice Papa. John personally endorsing this. The flu podcast. The Greatest Show undisputed undisputed Ni- on the street. It's just it's a household name. People say the greatest show case re podcast household name. Today's episode is sponsored by Quit who we know in love. Pizza Pie was dock. It'd to be on our show today but unfortunately cancelled brutally thought thoughtlessly on the last minute we had them all ready to go and he said Something came up so very rude. Who was very. I'm frankly was offended. But that's neither here nor there I'm trying to keep these show. Wholesome and light today Despite the fact that there is a a entire country of Italy as shutdown. Everybody is instructed to stay in their house in Italy and there is a sociopath. I ace literally senile man running for president. You're live dog sausage. Dia Calling Bernie Associated Bernie. No I mean. Look we've got we've got a lying dog faced pony soldier claiming blaming that drive again dogfish Pony Chaudhry. Did I play Don podcast before? Yeah so we've got so looks like Joe's going to win but I'M GONNA keep cool keeping it light and warm and breezy but I'm not I'm not I'm just keeping it cool despite all this happening in the world and if you're in Italy don't go outside no problem at all. You're not allowed to leave your house if you're in Italy not an issue rights AC. Yeah I'm not leaving my house. Show me your bags Cruise around the back back. Don't say the word don't say the word okay. So I got I got wipes. Yeah are those disinfected. It was so hard to get right now. Is that God. You get those Ralph's they just had him around around us. I guess they just need to leave. The House bought a thousand bucks. Look on Amazon. Everything is out of stock. That's the risk though. You have to go into arouse the get it. That's how you get sick. And then I got. I got gloves to show me. Because one are those disposable hell yeah they are so you bought like a bag of a thousand of them or something well. I washed my car so like they're like car washing gloves so do throw them out after. Use Them Yeah and So when do you put those on like when I go to the gas station anytime? I have to like touch shit. So if you've got if you're pumping gas put on gloves you finish the job you throw the gloves out and then like you use your pointer finger to get the glove off and it goes right in the trash can. I'M NOT GONNA. I've thought about that putting gloves I. There's nothing worse than touching. A gas nozzle dude is nothing worse. Going into this whole germ- Germany alert mode. It's like you can't avoid it. You can touch something. I don't know. Apparently Zach disagrees with my hands are also drives fucked. Because I've been washed Ryan. I know it's the worst man but no we're not. We're not getting stuck in the hole but zach is carrying around a bag a disinfecting. Yes I am Zach. How is your hair In the last episode you soaked your hair and Manning's correct about the the aftermath. Well I laughed and the car ride home was pretty gnarly. Had to drive with the windows down got home. It took me like three shampoos to get the all of it out like the smell but I think the dish show so kind of messed it up. Oh messed it up. Yeah because I think it just kinda stripped my hair and made it super dry. It was soft but it's so strong. Yeah they're so so ultimately any benefit you reap from soaking hair and Manas was negated by washing your hair with dish soap cry but the experience was amazing. I mean gentle. I really loved it. I was watching it back Over the weekend and I was I was laughing a lot. It was so it was a great mole watching him on TV when the episode came of before the whole good and I was like. Oh my God we noticed. I'm in love with big. Ed fell good on the show. He's promising one of the best seasons of nine hundred eighty. I think we have the making of an absolute reality. Tv superstar I Love Big Ed and I love that. We're in touch with him. You know Later in the episode. Today we'll be interviewing the PHILLY attack right. Today is lives like thing of such an old br around a soft brain a smooth rain. Sometimes my brain is smooth and sometimes it's hard boomer don't okay boomer myself The the PHILLY offensive will be joining us for an interview after the break which I'm excited about. He's the man the myth the legend behind role patrol and steak is for taxpayers. Love Him Out Zack. Speaking of May on your hair I saw this on the sub read it and I wanted to get your take on it. I thought it was really funny either. What I would like for you to do is put on those gloves. This is not the okay here we go and my hair The manny mailing here. Either he didn't want to get it for you to do is put on those gloves and start massaging manny's in his head. Don't worry about making a mess so wow I did not know. Pretty funny fantastic. Yeah somebody went back in time to Zach when he when the Mayo meam I was born and he said I don't WanNa get Mayo my hair now here. He is pretty good right good. You're here either. So there you go. Thanks that just goes to show you how things can change quickly and things can change very true Tricia is coming on this Friday. If you have a less or I guess it's closed right. We said the cutoff was last Sunday. So news and I got to tell you. We got a lot of applications throughout. I mean applications wouldn't be an exaggeration to say hundreds right goes. I mean what are short staff. I think we've got what maybe twenty twenty five of like. Whoa like real real solid ones. Do you think that there's anyone in there that she could potentially actually fall in love with? There's some Zingers zingers. Maybe maybe you know some blind Dan you it sounds like you and fuck any of them well. Most of them are males. Oh so dr some females all but just a few are female or male. Yeah I mean. She said that she's not into at least Straw right. She said she's not industry which it's really hard to keep track with her. Yeah insensitive so if you have a last minute application go ahead and send it to podcast. brushed come. We will consider it if it's fantastic but what I wanted to do. Just attempt you all get hyped up for this Friday when TRICIA will be joining us to make the thin the herd is to enjoy video from her AAC. She made a As Amar video it's called no talkie Trish. As Amar. And I wanted to enjoy see this. This could all be yours so this is awful. I so this I mean why would you like love it? I mean I. It doesn't bother me but I don't get love Roy. I'm thinking you're the producer of the show Dan. You can't it out the Dan Bounce. He's done skis Dan. I'm holding the headphones near my head. Asked them off so she ruining the dish for me. That does look good thing. This could all be yours if you enter at podcasts. At a shoe but actions you could be sitting beside her right now. She's eating Let me just describe it to our Audio listeners. There's a giant pool of cheesy. What kind of Pasta would you call that shells Shell Macaroni Super Cheesy and she's eating it with a giant wooden spoon. Servings not well I'm watching so This is called Super Cheesy Mac and cheese. Big Bites big by not talking now now. What's what's the purpose. Do you think the purpose of this is to jerk off to sleep to relax tomorrow but well. This isn't the same market as some of the other channel. I think she's She's an innovative person. And she's combining banks would mar no but it's for people like to watch her it plus they some are sounds Very Niche but it has fifty thousand views and a lot of light. But let's see what other kind of is she has. No no talkie tricks. She she really isn't you guys. Have you guys have to give it up? That she is a fucking natural born hustler. Did LIKE OPRAH SURE. She's been on every single possible. Show dude she is a natural born. Hustler. This is let me see. I think this is our most popular video here. Once the most recent upload one way to go so that after she announced the crunchy mar head of crunchy lettuce. This is just her eating head lettuce all right. Let's see where this goes taking out of a bag? It's just a head of lettuce. You know like a ball Why would anybody want want to do that? Is a big head of lettuce and she's just going in for a bite. Go get ready. She's taking her time in unison. A ESA martyrs. This do anything for you. Don't listen to some more mean you tomorrow. I tried it a little bit but it didn't really help. I feel like you're revising history. It really helped me fall asleep. I would be too focused. Did this great. This is gross though. I don't like this. This doesn't how this wouldn't help you policy after easy. Bro. She's just straight up destroy. She's just like I mean she's a far and I don't mean I mean she literally just a farm animal. I don't mean that like as her looks. I mean I've just never seen an animal other than a farm. Animal hit a head of lettuce like that radio. I mean I'm blown away by what I'm saying. Never seen some like this taking huge bites out of a full head of lettuce and gives them. You know I've just never seen anything like and one hundred ten thousand legs. So maybe the comments my Lord Peel off the first layer. At least that's what's on your mind. Damn you should probably watch that I. Just why are you guys? She's that's Harley the issue here well let us is famously. Where people get. I'm washed lettuce as what people get coli from right by the way probably should've watched it. I mean well. If I'm guessing she probably wash did wash it and put it in a bag. She wanted to look like she just took it out of the bag. For our perhaps. Because that's the whole vibe. I'm GONNA give her a benefit of down here but everybody's talking about E. coli and watch that as well okay. She is an innovator. My dudes Besser. Most popular one Edible dish sponge what I got clicked this so this one's called edible dish sponge deodorant stick. Yeah VIN diesel cute. Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Wait until it's could made in the shape of a spine. I think it's just a cake. That looks like a sponge cake. I don't know why. Would you make an edible sponge out of a Cape? Why why would you do shoot throwing stuff? But why would you make spun? It says edible dish lunch and deodorant sticks. Diesels into this. He might be the only one who's really into this as well as vin diesel the action stars really a fan of Tricia. Oh my God. The vin diesel. Do you have anything to say? Google the edible sponge and tell me that's Jon Rao it seems to be a thing Well somebody everything world adamant Edible Fish Google images people wanNA. He's like here. This looks crazy. Oh here's another a smart shuttle. Oh one point five million. It's got in it says. Asm ARE EDIBLE. Cake dish sponge eating show prank most satisfying downwards and then has like Korean and says Oh that looks like a real sponge trishaws. Didn't this looks like she's just stripped eating spun. It says preview. What is this? I need a preview. Oh no why. She's got hold on what the stumble into. She's got a thing of dish soap. That look has it filled with something that looks like just like sugar water. Yeah with food. Colors. There's a whole fetish. And so she's she's a really cute young girl who's thin and slender fit and she's just eating. Sponges I guess some people have a fantasy of eating sponges but this has one point. Five million to one point six million views. There's no way the Marie Commas and then I mean people are maiming on but but clearly people are maybe she's shocking and people click it like what when I just do. A Google search for edible dish sponge like the the image results there's like tons of thumbnails from videos like it seems like it was a trend or something. I have to give it to her though. These look fantastically real they do. I mean those are the two this is your life. Imagine your mom sees this. They could you explain this to your mom. She goes how many of us one point six million. You show her the revenue tab yeah. I'd guess you're right. It does happen to us. Your Dad goes wise. Ethan showing close observers Dick onscreen. That's probably worse than eating sponges. Yeah Yeah I'm little. I know for some reason I find this harder to explain. Yeah because you don't get it. What would your dad think I was eating sponges like this? Are you not meet as if you were eating sponges? I feel like it is here in a way to explain because it's like look at this Illusion like she baked or whatever. I don't know how it's made. It's impressive it's kind of impressive. It's very impressive. I know how to make this. Okay you like my mom would be like. Oh Wow. How'd you bake it you know? What can I get you to make a video like this? 'cause I'm 'cause like like if we hire a baker I feel like we could generate like a whole `nother revenue stream with you doing videos like this year as Somare. Just get someone to bring some fixed. Why did you sit there? Maybe like you know tight. Eating eating sounds as everyone knows. I hate our eatings and get to in a white shirt without a BRA. A white shirt BRA. Oh well I'm trying to entice our viewers to watch the spongy because they are all wearing like like you know there. I am not consuming. Real is what I'm eating is made on recycled reeling. Greed hands it is made with GEIC Jello and Rice krispies. So does there don't get it twisted carrying the property. What is the what has been diesel thing about this? Vin diesel tone it down. It's a wider next time days. We're doing really really wild. Always so he's got his birthday soft. Move Gosh all right. Well I love the sound bite then. Diesels a fan of edible. Kick dish. What that would've thumbnail these. What is happening on Youtube? Look at these people like people will do anything to make money. What is this the? Can you see this thumbnail pretty? Well scroll down just a hair. Perfect burp this thumbnail. Look how do you not click that I mean that was easier to understand than things candy? Here she's eating a shoe. Oh cool he see. It's like a king cool. I agree what's the word you know? It's a piece of art in the Bacon. Were probably I? DuNno I agree. I'm just impressive. The whole thing is crazy. Did the Simard the eating. The sponge is just so crazy I wonder if she bakes it. Do you think she just hired like she's eating. Will M Master Chef? Where do you find someone to make this kind of us? She probably has thirty nine million a crew of chefs are. I'm GonNa Click Belen now. I didn't even plan to watch this stuff. She's like Willy Wonka. Yeah where he like I love that scene. He was the first As Somare Food FETISHER THAT SCENE WILLY. Wonka where he takes a sip from the teacup eats it. I love that. So he's the man she's eating a calm just puke I mean. How do you work off galleries like that? What has been diesel? Think about this video in particular thoughts have you. That's true. She's pretty. Vin Diesel. Really really anything goes the new talking all right. He doesn't have he vin diesel. Only says he doesn't have a large vocabulary. Is I know I know I get you? Vin Diesel got off to work on educating him. Some more into more vocabulary. I lost my place. Where what what are we doing again? Did we ever document for? Oh Yeah we were watching. Tristesse of the winter I'm happy to announce the winner of the Tricia Bachelorette season will be. We will be sending both of you all on a beautiful cruise We looked up cruises as you know We found a beautiful twenty day cruise. That stops out on China. Beautiful China see the walls. The wonders of the ancient civilization China China as trump likes to say trump as he likes say China For only three hundred dollars man. We've been we've been laughing about all the Other rates to China you can fly directly to Shanghai for like three hundred bucks. That's that's round. corona virus is going to be an can't say that. Oh you can say like that but you can't talk. This is youtube. Oh you said you could say impasse. You can't say cashing but don't say more than that. So what I did not. Do you think the viral now. You can't talk if you can ask me a question about it. Otherwise we'll get yellowed. The you think yeah situation yes is GONNA be the end of all cruises. I hope so okay so so not tied crews Allah. Ooh Ted Cruz in the Ted Cruz is in quarantine jeans Bra. I get my news from them nowadays so I have to say if you go on a cruise you deserve anything that happens to you on that cruise for people know with cruising is like the bottom of the barrel humanity. Just think about what I have good friends that like just went on a cruise and before the end today like it though I think so I think everybody was a with a cruise to air back here and we want you guys said cruiser cool. I'd never been on one. I have been on when I was like twelve but I didn't find it. Let me describe a cruise to you. You're on a boat with a bunch of cheap assholes. You eat at buffets. Have you seen the room? You're stuck in. You can't leave. This is the first thing you have someone who hasn't done a cruise. I can imagine there's probably not tell me about it. It's like a cubicle. Which is the bed. It's like you got bunk beds and that's your room so that's where the people have can't leak awful. It's so you see sleep in what's essentially a prison yes. It's a prison on on in a larger prison at C. You can leave us a thing. You can't leave. People Go in Twenty Day cruises. Can you imagine whatever happens to you on that? See You have coming a lot of a lot of cruises. They make stops in like ports and stuff. That's why that's why we did. It was like this was a stop somewhere. It was like four days. Schlep you've got off you get on. Well that's when I was a kid you know as an adult to everything seems like a slap meal as a Kid. I gotta go upstairs take on the stairs. That was what when we were looking at these ones that are dirt cheap right now and a lot of them. Yeah like the one we saw was like twenty two days. I can't even if you like cruises. Not whose for that retirees. I guess was so wait. When you get off a port in another country you have to do like immigration shirt now. I don't remember you. Just get off and you walk around security skin there. Probably because how would have to be some sort of. Yeah there's gotTa be some. That's my point is that it's got it because your parents probably feel it out. There's it's gotta be so annoying because you're getting off in another country you gotta do some kind of declaration then you bring it back on the cruise you gotTa do some kind of declaration. You can't just become an and going bringing crazy shit with you everywhere. I used to sneak booze and Cuban cigars when I went on a cruise owes acura crews a veteran. You know the time of my life on a cruise. I think it's fun for kids and Old People. I was fifteen. I told everyone I was seventeen. That's actually pretty cool because you got to drink and smoke and stuff like you would never be able to do. Yeah Yeah. Plus that's why I lost my v. Carta Tom Cruise. We've I told the story. You didn't tell me that story. That was like the whole Blood thing with the popping of the hymen. You didn't connect. How was I supposed to know that was on a cruise bro? How did you Seduce a girl will hold on did you hear on the cruise? Yes Caribbean wait. Hold on you met her on the cruise. She was from England to end. You took her virginity No she took my virginity but why was her? Hymen broke. No no yeah yeah. So she's a virgin then. Yeah you guys took each other's Virginia on a cruise. Yeah that's you never saw each other. No Oh my God. Maybe she's watching right now sack. How did you meet her? How did you seduce this girl headache? I brought me everything. I BROUGHT MY GUITAR UNTIL GET TIRED. I meet her. Where'd you meet a club thing and it's funny it was a princess cruise to and that's the one that's like all right now? Did you call her princess and like they had like club things and you know you just go around and you're up till four in the morning or at least I was and I would just take my guitar all over the cruise and just played trying. Get anchin on. It was like during New Year's two and there was a playing bagpipes as well. And like that guy never read a shot also like prison completely. Yeah okay wait. You had your own room because I'm imagine your with your parents well. None of it was. My grandmother went my parents and then my brother and I had our own room but once it started like you know I met this girl I kick my brother out with my parents and your brand new. What was going on I ASSUME YEAH. Because why would there be with them? Yeah exactly your parents knew you were. You're screwing some girl on the cruise. Yeah I mean. My Dad was cool. The that's great. That's a pretty gnarly. Saris AC I did. You guys have did you guys do it more than once or was it just traumatic and then you never did it again. It was traumatic and at one time it was like I didn't know what was going on. You know what into what she does. She have to talk to her afterwards. yeah. I mean it was like I mean. I wasn't like a big like yeah happens you know nobody like Abso so you guys have this really. Oh you mean like laugh stayed friends. She like she got kind of weird and wanted to start like dating. Manshat clingy on super fucking clingy on the cruise crew. You guys had sex weird that she wanted to be with you after well. Well but she maybe she was just being really like like really clunky. I mean I but you are south on the crew so even on the cruiser like listen baby. You're kind of fish. Listen Princess you know fifteen. She thought I was seventeen. You Know Oh my God I mean so so so wait. You guys had this night. The next day she's intensely Wanting to be with you and then we are. Reaction was was what I wasn't like a dig. I was nice but like I just kind of distance myself Hung out with other you you know. She has distrust of men ever said. Thank you single girl now. Now why is it? You don't want to spend any time with your. You just weren't into her. And you just over freaked out beverage I understand I understand. I totally understand that. Wow Yeah so I'm crews are crazy and I like I met all these people from Canada and England. We trying to smash the girls. Yeah Oh man you are wild man and did your parents even ask you like what was what happened well I. They saw me walking around my guitar and like talking to other girls. They had to assume what was going on. Did you smash any other girls on the no? It was just a few kisses here and there but at the I know I got Bam. You're bald young you once you pretty big back. Then I was very big tell you I was a freshmen in Highschool. Nice memory then I can play. Thank you for bringing that well. I think it is a it is a good detail. Yeah I I you know. I was bullied in is schools. Yeah This was a pretty awakening and came back to my stride. Man then came back to you. Know My shitty life and high school and you know you're like dude. I fucked like twenty girls on this. Nobody believes you. So wait was this girl did you. She trying to get in touch with do during that whole time. I mean what she just kind of wonder separate way when you are flirting with other girls. Yes she kind of took the hint and you know Made like a tree and leave you know Kinda. I wasn't a Dick I wasn't like get the fuck Outta my face. That would be insane. Exactly this is an incredible story. Do you think about her Do you ever feel bad about how that went down? I do feel bad but I also feel bad for myself because I was a very traumatic situation. Yes you are definitely the victim reports. Oh my goodness this is. This is such an incredible story this episode. It's gone everyone totally off the break time. Oh my goodness I don't WanNA stop. Sorry is just zaken is the sack. I love you buddy you give and give such a nerd at the at that age like I had. I think I had the opportunity to have sex with that age but I was. I felt like I ready. I never seized it because yeah I guess I wasn't ready which is weird because you think of yourself you're like I don't know I just know I wasn't ready so now I don't know I was already to even make eye contact. I was born ready. I know the feeling back active man. Watch out for him shit. I you didn't throw it overboard and move on. Yeah exactly all right. Let's go to a quick break when we come back. We're going to take a call from the PHILLY offensive the Legion the role patrol and So stay tuned. We'll be right back if you care about your mouth. Listen to the words that I am saying you know that I live and die by the quip electric toothbrush. It's a vibrating little tube. It's got the softest bristles in the game to keep your beautiful sensitive gums that do not grow back by the way safe and not receding Quip Electric toothbrush times and pulsating first of all vibrates dentists. All Save vibrating toothbrushes claim better. Here's the trick though. Here's why it's so cool. 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Never seriously wax paper and you're sniffing them and then you're putting you're putting them back. They smell like shit exchanged real and buy them. Because I don't want I don't want I don't know what your Dick beaters bins himmy talk. Listen has pick them the fuck off and put them in your bag or I'm GonNa even you up even should've I'm telling you right now. Scared right convincing. Pick them up disgusting so used. The wax paper did so good. It's so good. It's so brilliant. I have so many questions for the. Jj also has philly offensive so without further ado. Dan Can we get our boy? Jj philly offensive on the line and here we are with the PHILLY offensive. Jj is at right as what I should Kolya. Jj Works Welcome. I did how are you telling me? Let me ask you something. The role patrol had captivated our hearts and minds. We did it. We were almost none of us. I suspected that it was fake. At all tell Rumney through the production of that video so That's my buddy Jim He was in a couple of videos of mine and I went to meet him and we went to Home Depot to try to Get an apron to do a video there and We were told to just walk into the break room and steal one and we didn't feel comfortable doing that so I was like I well. Let's just go down. There was an acme down the street. Let's go down air and do this Roll video because I hate seeing that whenever it. It just drives me crazy and I'll be honest I never say anything When it comes to the roles I mean. I don't say you're not trolling and your free. Time right Certain things I will speak up though in a lot of my videos I speak up. It's because it's how I feel very Feel very passionate about certain things. Like littering or You know someone hit a dog word mystery non-animal but anyway we went in and He was super nervous. Jim Because he hasn't been in a video to wall and remember making his eye black I wanted to blacker but he was like shaking putting this ink on his eye but I guess it looked black enough because you know when when I said I'll even you to fuck up people understood what I meant dude His nervousness was so I I I was for sure like the look that he gave you a so genuine. I thought for sure it was real and I thought I'm GONNA be honest. I thought you are huge. Black Guy or something. That was in like a mobility. Scooter something and you stood up and just scared the shit out of him. Well the yeah the way I was holding my phone. I shoot all my videos on my phone It did look like that. I'll be honest like after we shot it when he he laughed at the end. I noticed I'm a man I don't know and I was like there was people watching us and by the way we did by the roles. He sniffed off. So you very good. Didn't become the per- the monster you. Despise can and Love the line. The role smells like Shit. Now how does that we did was that improviser? Did you say tell tell me the role smells like shit? I just said sniff them and he went with it. What a legend and who's not and if someone behind US recording. Who's that Chris? That's Kristen my girl? She's chasing the dog Hikaru high. You don't sniff roles and put them back deal. Kids dogs baby rolls and put them back. No she's not that person that would never work out between the two you of feeling if she was so. Do you fool a lot of people into thinking. Your videos are real. It seems like you are so talented at making the semi realism. Sketches that Yeah I've had the. The steak is for tax payers. That was the first one back down the fifteen and that was the first viral video. I made Meaning like I remember. I remember like yesterday because it was so shocking. I posted it at like eight. Pm and by eight. Oh Five. Had Fifty thousand likes Are we talking about on facebook? Or where won't be And But in most of them like the road patrol one. Take one take done. Yeah Sandwich steak is for taxpayers. So so you're you're you're primarily on facebook because on Youtube I notice views are quite low. Yeah I really didn't focus on Youtube They remove me I used to have a real big problem. Trolling people aren't gonNA respond to every comment. Like someone you fuck. Yo because it just makes people more mad and in the same thing with facebook. I've probably had about five different accounts. Now and certain videos they always go viral. I learned my lesson with that way. And so are you able to make money at all to people? Are you making money on facebook? I sell merchandise but now that facebook has the monetization option which they didn't before now They'll be you know a huge potential to make money. Yes so you didn't. You aren't able to make money because those videos are old but now you do have active facebook pages that you want people to come visit in the follow absolutely it's The philly offenses philly offensive Well I think it's a God damn shame you're not a billionaire by now. I I think billionaire find being honored skipped millions. And and do you find your your videos get stolen posted around a lot if you go one facebook and just type in Philly offensive. There's so many that are posted in most people. You know if I'M GONNA go. Can you give me credit? I'm sorry what was yours but people like Worldstar and all. They posted them countless times. You can't get a hold of them people. You know what I mean. Yes a whole engine of theft They're really not even stealing role there just stealing videos which is arguably worse worse. Yeah right and Can I ask you of all your videos because I've only seen you have a lot of of of these little sketches? Which is your favorite. Which is the one that you recommend that we go watch now after this videos over if you have one I would say besides Got Milk the one with the drugs. Arcane off just it real quick The the only people that were with me was guy overdosing micro and the guy who got kicked by Buddy Pat. How other people were doing exactly what they were doing before. I asked him the being a video. Oh God they followed it so that is that my reality. They were legit there. One guy was running around and kept screaming. What the fuck. Oh my God. He's like what do you want me to stay? Just keep saying what the fuck. Y'All so is this whole concept like what's the mill. Yeah what is? How did you come up with the idea? Pour milk in the mouth of someone Odeen. I find that to be so specific I am almost had to convince me. It was real I I seen. I think I've seen a maim or something or no. It was a video where someone was overdosing on dust angel dust. Yeah and they Somebody said you need milk raw to pour some milk and someone's being over guiding kicked in the nuts that videos masterpiece truly. I really appreciate that and I really appreciate you Put me out there And I would say the best video. The checkout is do you have health insurance Oh okay. I love the titles. That one Let me think I think we're going to watch you right after this call. Because I I wanNA know what I miss him. Okay so the the one I just posted. I think it's it's about dog poop. Dogg this one was played on. Mtv Today patient today credit you they did. They did not. They didn't pay. They won't mention my name. I asked them MTV. The show. Ridiculousness how can they show your shit and not even ask for your consent on? Oh No no. I got paid for that okay. Okay Oh they WANNA plug they you know why because they wanted to all pretend like it was real probably and they said they're producer we do not We don't credit websites. Did they pay you fairly? You got a nice little check from them. No of course I don't man goal with With this stuff you just WanNa continue like making sketches and comedy. Yeah I mean I you know. I've been doing it so long like I mean. I've been doing it before. Social media just messed with people and then and now I found this platform where I've reached so far that I would love to like you know. Have something on net flicks or naphtha. Lulu you know something like that but Yes checkout Do you have health insurance and the other one is Picket the fuck up the pity. Fuck up we're going to watch those right now. Oh is that the garbage. No Dog Shit. Yeah I can tell that all these are inspired everyday life. Yeah Oh yeah if I see someone letting their dog crap and they walk away. I'm saying something. How does that usually go probably more polite? Than what's depicted in the videos. I'm assuming or maybe not depends how I feel. Yeah honestly you know. I'm not a tough guy but when it comes to like you know you're GonNa let your dog crap on my payment walkaway like no you're going to pick it up. I'm with your thousand percent I'm going to wash these. I'm GonNa Watch these segments Lastly let's plug. We've got the the Philly offensive you can find. Jj everywhere people are found. Is that right? That's right here to facebook. I don't need to. I would like to keep in touch with you. I think you're hilarious. Dude and I'm trying to think of ways that I I WANNA pay more than ridiculousness pay deal and I want to try to think of a way that we can work together. Hey Man I. That's another goal is to write for someone. So how nice. So if I'm guessing on what ridiculous page you then I'll be than probably for twenty bucks per sketches that some if I'm trying to pay more And finally will as a token of gratitude. I just I WANNA do something. Nice you are you and your girlfriend. They're interested in going on a cruise and I send you on a cruise or maybe a round trip to Shanghai. We're just giving gifts. Would I would love to go to Shanghai Ring. You know. It doesn't sound like I like. That's what you do to your enemy. Let me say you on a rude. We were just looking up cruises. The guys fell into eighth twenty night cruise for three hundred dollars to China. So few new girlfriend interested. I'd be happy to front the money you want to go to China. Take your chances. It's all wow okay nine everybody round trip. All expenses paid No I actually I value too much. I want you around. I want you We can't afford you being in quarantine all right well. Jj thank you so much for the wonderful content. Thank you for calling us and thank you. We'll be in touch. I think you're amazing dude. And you're doing God's work out there so thank you thank you both thank you thank you all right. Thank you God. Bless what a joy what a treat The philly offensive. I have a feeling that is not the last time we will be hearing from him He recommended these two videos. I WanNa Watch him you recommend. Do you have health insurance? I haven't seen either of these so this is exciting. Try to you. Try gave him in taking up. You're taking up spaces. Listen listen they're here for a reason they need they draw lines here the Pto the people that are organized and common sense. Listen I mean listen you got health insurance white because if you don't get an NFL can report you're going to need. It might just get in the car. You're fucking everything up. Someone's GonNa WanNa Park here. And it came on fucking believable. All these lines for a reason not good no no. He must've color and report right. You know he really just acting out the fantasy that we all have when we see someone doing something like that and I love it. It's Cathartic took the same energy as like curb. Kind of like a Cathartic Yeah what we all wish. We could say very true. There was one other one here it has picked that shit up calmed Al same people. All right I'll be right back up. Spent on hey listen you were here last week and you let your dog. Shit on my payments the same you just as you need to pick that up. It's a Chihuahua because I don't care if it's Wawa or a fucking great Dane when I step in it. I got kids in there when I bring it a step in it and bringing in my house the kids are rolling around in a okay. So you need to pick it up. Listen you're going to pick it up from knock your junkie boyfriend and fucking really pick. It had this crazy that go pick it to Reno. Yeah what their hands Smith over fuck out of here. People that are like so committed is pretty amazing. I mean the kinds of genius. He's got a talent. Does I could totally see a TV show was like. I said I am going to do I want him. I want him to be. I going to do everything in my power which is very little Man I hope he doesn't run into Zach on that cruise. I'm sending them both on a cruise. Santa Cruz I can't Zach Crew Star. Still in my mind. Let's move on to our main. Oh I wanNA talk about this actually before we move onto my main segment of the day wicky feet before we do. I wanted to show this really funny chain of events that happened recently. You guys saw Khloe Kardashian. She posted I paid for it with Febreeze first of all. We're I mean who is wise for breeze even doing like influencer marketing for breeze. It's not rule. You know what I mean but here posted a picture but they have like Diamond covered models. Yeah Yeah it's like rhinestone. What are we supposed to do in that? It's just blame bro so you it's like just bomb it's full breeze toners for hiding the smell of shit you know what? I mean so here. She is on her bed with a bunch of for breeze. So I said when you shift to bed which Which was funny. I thought and dude wipes you know. This is a company. I've SEEN ON SHARK TANK UP. They make wipes for dudes and They commented and they said now is. This is good advertising I I remember. Typed it with one hand because I was holding. Theodore's something that's why like there's a period and I was like where's our dude wipes sponsorship and they. Dm Me and they said that they were down to sponsor me I was like Holy Shit. Dude we're let's do. I've never I don't think I've ever done a sponsored tweet because now we maybe didn't like one or two on instagram. But that's it right. I did a long time ago. Yeah I did not like that though where it's like. Hey I remember. We did one for video movie or something. Our video game number. It was a while ago anyway so I thought this is great. I'm going to do this with dude. Wipes so this was. The the end result was me on the bed with a bunch of dude wipes and. I don't know if you noticed the detail here a dirty wipe gross sexy. You mean And it's titled Now Dude Wipes has cover. When I should the bed. Somebody paid me to do this. I thought it was awesome Some people were wondering if you were wearing underwear and there you can see my under. I mean yeah. I was wearing boxer. I wanted to. I wanted you to see as much as possible like I got a fat five on fucking fat but anyway lots of compliments on your legs. I think they were probably good because I got fat legs back. Maybe so well okay. I'll take it. I'll take a compliment. That's what they learn to take off but we tried our best to match it so I think we did a pretty good job. What do you think yeah but like going through this? I mean I love this. This whole premise of this photo is so stupid. And how much money did they pay her for this? I bet you they pay like half a million dollars for this for breeze. I got paid substantial. I got paid substantially less. I did this for the goods. I think dude wipes got a better deal than the than than for breeze. I don't get. What do you do with the rhinestone bottle like when you when you're done? Do you use this for breeze with the crazy bottle or do what? Are you supposed to show it off in your house? Yeah I think it's designed to make you feel like you're doing you're elevating the experience of masking the smell of shit because that's not a lady thing to do so you can be. Khloe Kardashian and still be for breezing shit she. I hate them I really do. I'm sorry and I just I just despise this. I really despise everything about this. You're on a bed with for breeze bottles. Like who fucking cares God? Does it bother anyone as much as it bothers me? This photo Not as much as seems to bother. You know it's so stupid wise for breeze. Why the campaign doesn't make sense. Why is was the caption? Must the caption. I'll tell you Twitter right. Now it's fucking tweets a lot. How long ago was all sponsored? By the way way back and this is from before F- so this I posted on February. I think it was February twenty six. I think I or the day before. I think it was on instagram everywhere. No she posted everywhere for some reason. I I don't have. Yeah but oh I remember it was so I do remember what it was. It was something like Something like wow for br. I'm a previous partner for life. I can't believe how great it smells. Nice just squirted on is for like scoring on your bed or something. Which is why my joke was so funny. Bright Yellow Paradis. Who Know so you found it. Yeah so you want to go ahead and read it. One million and one hundred likes who had like that post I mean genuinely even if you're fan of her long but listen to the copy like deep it's like Like she cares so little about her like her audience. She thinks such sheep that shoot. It's so obvious. She didn't write this and yet people still liked it. Listen this I mean it's pretty just like transparent that it's Najma didn't really try to make it but why would you like? What would you engage with his heart? The best ever I've used at febreeze fabric on my bed for years. Try It out and let me know what you think. Crowned King of a crowd Hashtag for breeze partner forever by my favorite sent. A I don't know is this case it is but I don't find it particularly dumber than ninety nine percent advertisement center about this photo. Here she is on the Swiss Alps with the breeze out on our balcony almond breeze. Who you need in your house wiser for breeze everywhere. What pisses me off more about. Not just these advertise posts but just always the comments from like not just her in particular but like mega superstar people on the level of her. Yeah he's just looking at like the top responses like from I. I guess I have to be logged into safe. Because I just see the plebs. Kim Kim Kardashian her sister. I need that rhinestone bottle. You've been using this forever neat freak so I my theory on that Dan is that that comment is part of the part of it. Yeah probably at least from her but like omg. This is iconic. I use it to. I think they're paid to say that all away which is actually even more serious. Because they don't I don't think you need to disclose. Would that be lost? And if they had to start disclosing they go. Jeannie this to hashtag AD. I don't think the comments are paid for but I think it's their way of supporting each other. Because then why would anyone say? Oh my God I need that for breeze too because there is a pouring. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. It's like Mega Porn. I WANNA look well too bad. You gotTA show too late. It's dude it's so loud is it like it's gnarly really coming down. I don't know if you let's see if they can here at the so exciting they hold on so we we here on the Mike. Yeah definitely Oh yeah. What's like a low rumble? I didn't know there was so much rain Anyway I was saying. I don't think the comments are paid. I think they're just supporting each other. Girls girls the sisters. So here's a photo of her. She's here's a photo of a God. Yes reminds me of the TYRA BANKS RIGHT DOWN. Best Land this one is even worse because the vessel and you can carry with you and you take it out. Beauty product kind of the threes. What are you doing this? It doesn't look good. It's not like I would live it out for the cooperation. I just can't go. I'm sorry you guys just bothers me a lot for breeze I mean. How much weight would it be expensive to be dazzle? Ho bodies a full body of FA breeze and all that's inside is like fucking water with chemicals in it all right so dude wipes shut up to dude wipes thank you. I thought we did a pretty good and I stuck to get paid to goof on Khloe Kardashian Clar Dash Ian another in other twitter news OJ Simpson. They thought it wasn't possible. I was challenged by someone to get blocked by O. J. Simpson and I. Frankly didn't think it was possible. Because every response on all of his tweets is just relentless clowning on him and so I figured there's no way he even goes into the comments because it's just so brutal but here we go. I was blocked by O. J. Simpson he post himself in front of Costco. He's grown virus. Who's afraid he's got a mask on and a shopping cart full of toilet paper and I was like Oj. You had the toilet paper. Yes he's one of the people I said to him. Well statistically I pro- I may have a better chance of being killed by you then the virus because you know in my age bracket I don't I don't think many people die but Oj has killed two people least so statistically he is more deadly to me than the virus another it was a valid observation to make an Oj blocked me so there you go. I achieved the impossible and OJ Simpson. I'm on his kill list down truly yes. Oj We Well I'm sad I can't use tweets anymore so you guys are GonNa have to keep me updated if anything goes on their. Keep you up dude for all. These people blocking. You can't manage all these. I can't manage all these twitter accounts but The people have spoken and has two hundred. Thirty eight thousand likes so it's a hit on twitter. Yeah let's talk to your own Jake. Paul Paul blocked me unprovoked. I what I what? I mean by incidents. Well I think there was. I showed you won. T Oh maybe I just don't think you realize that he blocked you at the time right for probably the relentless mocking for three years straight Well that could be sure I would probably block me. Can I block myself away blocked me last night and realize I mean one of those policies? So that's exciting. I was kind of proud to be frank that the will and what's funny is that you know he read it so it's funny he's like. I wonder what he thought. This guy got me good. Or He's like man I I didn't kill anyone. No he knows he killed someone. He's like Dan. Everybody just wants to talk about that. I murdered two people and not that I'm buying toilet paper from Costco so crazy that he's out cruising around join life yes it is. Thompson. Girl left funny comment. I posted it on instagram. And he goes he's like excuse me. Oj Simpson was acquitted. More of law. Show some respect and people were like. I guess who didn't know who tom was. He's joking to calm down. I can't believe you're defending. Oj is good twitter World AIDS Jewish truly anyway OJ. Simpson blocked me. That was very epic and one more thing before we get to Wicky Feet Ula. I have one entry for worst tattoo. As you'll know ella very strong opinion that bent Athens says the worst that tune world and this I found are sub reddit. It's someone they have zippers on the back of their leg. That opens up into a CAMMO pattern. I don't understand the science so bad. Why do they have more under their skin? I don't know The zipper so ugly too. I just I don't get the the message the message in their skin like what's the what does it mean. The skin is over. The camel is the skin there cam the pretending to be human. But they're actually actually of soldier after your I don't get it because have skin to the heart of a warrior really sophisticates and also wearing flip flops. You're that's a she know. What do you mean he female right? That makes it even worse. Where is it starts battle? I think this one is might into worst really. Oh my make any sense. So it's so ballsy I mean so bold and it's so nonsensical it's huge. It's ugly stoop getty images by the way. How did this end up in the giddy getty images archive thought another CELEB- no no way? Is You get everything man how was Getty Images Archive? I refuse to believe that. Also I think the Ben Affleck to kind of out of the what what was under the green part interesting Sensei Khanna his story that it didn't actually lie about that. The to his writing is kind of changing for me. You just feel bad for you saw. He's in tough shape that poor tough shape and they actually seems like an okay guy. Yeah he's an alcohol. What I don't care I'm not I don't care about gossip and let's see you of course cinema then. I'm all about but okay. So that was one of the factors. He lied about it. Yeah and I thought that was so funny but once I understood he was like sticking it to the Paparazzi people doing visits. Yeah so For what is this? Tattoo mean? This one is away uglier and actually e cannot really hide it even like as a female. She's going to wear mean she's wearing short pants in the summer. She thinks it's awesome. Well you know what it is. She's trying to appeal to some like. She's probably in like Arkansas. And she wants some redneck to think that's the coolest thing ever some budweiser drank and Redneck Wanna mountain. Her like a stallion wilting. That it's the coolest thing ever right. There is someone for that to to and I just I just. I'm not trying to get. I'm just saying you don't have to put this but you know whoever thought. This tattoo was awesome. And you know whoever got this tattoo you know who they vote for. Why are you going to political just saying I just think it's interesting that so unnecessary but you don't you find it interesting. You know that somebody who would fuck this and think it was awesome would vote trump. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing it's just you know you think some of the would mount this would vote. Democrat ever. Am I going? Is this funnier or stupid Dan. He's talking to him really that we said we're not going political. I just thought that you cannot away. No it's not meant to be cheap shot you think it's It's not that funny. I guess cheap shot no good. Are we revolt? Wouldn't you asked now? I want the honest truth. Going enough If I should a boar or pursue board Barzak Indian you guys all think abort stuff up guys come on Jabor but do you agree. That's not all right. It's funny it's funny. It's not funny I like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it I like it I like it. I like everything country. Can we just talk about it to to? I WanNa talk about feet all day to talk about this feet while. Here's a fair. What do you think this one? I just ruined the show. I promise again to show for his show. Keep it wholesome and light okay but I just thought I was like you know what now. Okay let's move. Let's talk about wicky feet? Which is what we've all been waiting for for now. Cammo in Zipper in the back of the legs. You know what I wished. I wished that whoever made wiki fit would make Wiki tatoos rating too. You can't you have because you can beat off two feet and therefore it's more popular of course so there's a site called wicky feet now blows my mind for small. The decide exists. It's a wikipedia dedicated. You can find any celebrity big or small pictures of their feet on this website and apparently has a very active community because they have a whole catalogue so dedicated for example. I looked myself up and I'm thinking to myself I have never. I don't think I've ever shown my feet I say I can't recall one time ever shown my feet on camera yet. When I posted up these I sought it out. They found every photo and sure enough. I was only up that and this is like to them to send the money shot but are you sure that people are jerking off to fate. Why are they in wicky feed there there? There's no reason for this website to exist if the not masturbating? I don't know guys guys speak up because the men there's no women masturbating on his way to say well well. Only men are sick enough to do this game. What what Dan. I don't know about that. This is your look your on Wikipedia. Men Women whenever masturbate to this? I'm sorry you can call me judgmental. A woman or would not come here masturbate to a man's feet I. It's Gay dudes. We're GONNA get multiple emails now. I won't have a foot fetish note. No emails I'm calling and maybe like I'm saying ninety nine percent men on this. I'm just saying guys who only discussing enough people said jerk off defeat Maybe I don't know I mean it's all it's all bizarre to me so it's hard for. Yeah from so Zach. Do you ever think for feet. I feel exactly no not in the field in the honest with me. And don't lie to me. No I don't really get. I gotta be honest. I don't get it. I don't hate feet but I certainly GonNa version to certainly not into it. I don't like not look at it. You know what I mean. I kinda void looking at this. But so be like so. I'm not a sex icon by any means but people have have gone through my videos and found this specific frame where you can see my foot. The best Your ratings pretty. Good Dude look at that. Well Whoa I have to enroll on over four stars. I have to admit that I am. It's a four point four. There's a lot more you'll see. I mean I. Wow that's some nice female. Well thank you very much Dan. I feel better I I do. I do think I have nice feet if I may say. So here's what confuses me about all this though and I guess we'll we'll see as we continue I'm so baffled by all this. I don't even understand the rubric. Like I genuinely am not really sure. What makes a foot nice like? Obviously if it's like really gnarly disagree with you then. I think women can be pretty judgmental feet. Nobody don't jerk off to feed. They don't masturbate today. You decided that this is a jerk off website. I'm not sure that's true. Wiki feet role. I think that women are voting here. Why would any woman come to the site just for a hobby? Y What are they doing here? These are dudes with their hand on their penis. Jerking off. I'm I I'm so sure I'm so sure you guys have to see what I'm talking about backstage. See what you're talking about but I think they would be surprised that it's not the only thing happening here. I could only give to know who's spent been on the side. You know what I mean. I would love to demographic how many ratings do you. Oh it's only fifteen votes way. Where do you see the votes? I just pulled it up. It's on the top right but that's a lot for coming to my page. I don't where do you see the top rate of the website stats fifteen? Total here I have no one or two stars. That's pretty good. A lot of average people sam just average of eight five stars. That's fair either way and by the way By the way you have to log in to vote. These are people who have an active. Yeah so I'm just saying there's this and there's no no no no no no it says you have to log in here. Let me refresh just to prove it to go there. Just I just saw that Paves the suggested one is Pudi Pie and he has almost a perfect score yet. So what I've noticed about. It is not just here. There's a lot of foot shots. I think it's really just based on how attractive people find them. I don't think it really has anything to do with their actual fee. I could be wrong but pupae his four point nine six. You'll notice throughout this that some people have a five point five and I don't know house that's POW with some people. Yeah how could you go over five? You'll see that. Is it six stars in total. No it's five five you'll see over but let's see I mean how would you rate those? Yeah I mean yeah no Weird Shapes But I think a lot of feed picks did I think the only people S- jerk to this so many right so anyway let's get off Felix. He's an apparently game plan. So then I says okay. We'll obviously you must have one. Which but then I was like I also never show. There's no way you'll ever showed her feet like I'm on camera way. More to look fee. Pixar View Ula. It's crazy it's from your life. You have one hundred and five ratings people are jerking off to your fee hundred five ratings and for some reason on the female side. It doesn't say this specific number but it says you have four and a half stars. Oh you're right weird beautiful beautiful theater. Maybe they don't want the women maybe though its feet shots. There are seven. Us is that accurate salmon seven. Us wait Do do what we know. All I can edit it to me to correct it. A very can change. It is this I mean I'm assuming women size right. I'm nine year nine okay. We've just updated it but you gotta be like Mellow. Yeah contained you. Can you believe how many feet photo no you know? It's not that many. They take like screen shots from one thing. I know but still and you've got one hundred. This is your fault. Those are your instagram's stories. Well I'm not thinking about your life either in the shot and see. Where's the money shot like? If I'm trying to jerk off to your feet which is the one I would probably one of these The look pregnant. I am and I know it's crazy. I would probably drove off to this one. 'cause you like someone that would almost jerk off to fit. I'm just I'm yeah. Well I'm putting my mind you know. I'm putting my mind. Maybe this one to like a weird like There's like a weird like so weird corpse fetish. Where is this? What is God? It's from our dump products video right. I'll see there you go. Yeah I jerk off to your feet okay. But then I'm like okay mean Eli on their. Dj Calendar look up next DJ calot. Three he's got three years. Ask Crack. Who's looking at a giant So Dj they've got all this feet the system itself. Okay Jon Jafari John. Trotter looking at my friends poor John. He's got three point three not many shots. Here's one you can't really see much. Yeah but this one. Also you can't really say anything. Well they've they've they've stamped with the three point three. They said no to Jones feet. Then I look up I DUBS I is one of these SP- beautiful feet over a five and I don't know how that's possible. Here's a five point. Three five out of five. I don't get that yeah What bothers me? This website is not making any sense. Those are all in the question you know. But let but locate. His feet are so much more beautiful than mine. Let's have a look so I was drinking off his feet which won't WanNA choose up. This one for sure ill crew Scott time kind of a weird look. I feel like my feet or more beautiful than his. Why does is good? Why does his feet get a better rating than mine? I think people are more good shot on the bottom left. A you know I mean where you can really not that one. Yeah that's where you can really see fit. Nobody see people who jerk off to. This won't like the really fucking disgusting because I think a foot fetish to you. I listen I think it's about the fact that it's disgusting no. I don't even know what you're talking about. All right people are gonNA write in and say eason's right and he was wrong okay. Everyone told me it was over this foot shit but I think my feet are more beautiful than ins so there and he's a five point three five well he seems to have hacked the system or something to extraordinaire so we we are accusing in of of sabotaging his rookie feet. Yeah for sure possibly buying votes while I wouldn't put it past him is vainly that Philip to Franko. Wicky feet us a three point six. Eat IT Philip. Wow He's Lik wisey is he jacked. His legs like jacked. Look it up. We get a look at his feet missy. Ese I gotta be honest Philip. I probably wouldn't masturbate to your teeth. That was my thing. Just being honest right. It almost looks like he's got a Ben Affleck to back in that big one. Oh so good. Yeah so filter. Franko has less beautiful feet than me. I'm happy to say owned own. Thank you Dan. Daniel team for a friend of the show obviously Four point six. Now this I'm going to have to log. In to rate a one who yes. Seven votes came star. His name's Daniel. Oh Yeah I no. You didn't know I didn't know we're going to have to lock. Can We Brigade? His waikiki is only seven votes. We could swing this okay so zaken and Dan want you to log in a wicky feats and give them one star okay. I'm just going on it. No I'm on. That deck is a four point. Six I mean come on. They're not bad feeder. Honestly I I I'm not gonNA hate on the Guy I would. I was scored on him on his feet. I can't even see his fitness when I was in the bottom. They're not that bad pretty regular. Yeah I'm not GONNA on this. You can hate the man beloved defeat. I learned that through life of So then Jenna marbles trying to look at the females Jenna marbles has a perfect five star rating. I actually only pull this up because it's too weird but I wanted to show like this guy or she did like her own now and that that's how you get a five star. Now that's hot. That's actually terrifying She has a lot of feed picks. Man Look at Cheeses Joe. That's pretty funny though. Oh well no wonder she's got five starts giving the people just what they want. You know what I mean like damn and I don't WanNa look to launch that because it is weird because we know her But now I WANNA get funny. We know all these people. Yeah but it's weird because you've like I'm obviously joking with do but I feel like people spend a lot of time. Jenner's jerking off not me into that. I'm not why I do that. She has seven hundred votes. So this is like my traffic page. So there's that so now the say Okay Shaq Shaquille O'Neal funny. He's getting hated on the low side of ever seen one point. One you guys. What one point one was looking for more I figured because he famously has like massive feet so as getty images they own everything and Oh my God yeah I dunno whole understand though is just lie. Hand people that are into feet. Don't like big fee or something. I would assume if you're into a foot fetish you would want to see you like like A foot you know like anything like if you don't think that's the logic would fit. Look at this. He's got a one point one. Everybody agrees he has awful. Feel like everybody's in the fee everybody who knows anything about feet. Here's some poor. Asian woman is for the whole body but they're not that bad for like a one star is saying it seems super harsh. I don't know what what the Friday normal. Oh those are hideous. That's bad news. What is the right way? There's comments yes scroll down. Wait where how do I scroll down? Get outta there's Konitz. Look Oh I don. I've been missing comments top comment. I feel nauseated. Looking at his feet from the looks seems to have been stuffing feet into shoes way. Too Small one of his big toes is leaning too far over like it may have been crushed inside of shoes. Then there's the fungus infected big toe which caused them to have no tonal absolutely hideous vomit. Inducing as look like female I was about to say this dispels your theory here the white because her name's foxy fee and it looks like a guy or am I gonNA clip. Oh her user. She's a user rating. It shows one star ugly feet. Ooh She talk. No no I think that. That's Oh that's her rating fan. Yeah exactly this is like a comment. That was left along with that rating Right now I got to. I need to go cramming. Big Fito awful or is so common ruins otherwise large and beautiful feet on a prime example of this so seem starting to get a sense of sitting there. I just criticizing the faith. But they don't like the cramming. Yeah so we need to get big beautiful feet. That don't Cram Jeff. I mean I guess I gotta go back and see if there's comments like years ago there was I wasn't GonNa pointed out but well let's see it by off. Sure I WANNA see. Oh God there links. Oh No that oh I got a feeling Ethan's GonNa be roasting this site down the line. We are how shit this is from. Four years ago took us a while. I'm surprised it took US wait. That's November sixteenth of last year. I mean I think I was reading. I saw that sixteen so usually put the year last. Orders Weird but it's twenty nineteen this would have been made a great. Hd video no way as the site seven and that's true. I'm tall people so dedicate she's size eleven at least yeah. Didn't I told you bro? Didn't I tell you this was the one that I would jerk off to? This person has foot artists. I feel like I've completed my journey on the site and they tag this photo. That's the one they needed to. I totally called that. Then this is the other one I ca. I call it out there saying where these were this picture from they. WanNa know what Rape Dungeon. You would have loved to serve under her command with Mike Hers. You'd have had no trouble. Keeping me in line is is so weird I'm telling you these are dudes jerking off. You're okay but I think when it comes to the guys. I think girls need common thing on the aesthetic of the foot regardless of where your thank right. Let's look into it but this commerce as your savior. Thank you so much. She's gorgeous long-term Gross. Do those twenty seventeen. That's going back. This doesn't sixteen. Wow now I go see the comments. I'm fine Oh my God. I wonder if there's gotta be comments right. Yeah there's no comments. There's no comes. Just give Chemo one-star by the way. Let me tell you shouldn't know you this. This process is wholesome. You shouldn't you shouldn't do that. He says a four point. Now I I was kidding. I said he took it back. I took it back and they still had four point six. Maybe it takes a while so no shit is gross. Get that off Let's move onto the funny things. Okay now everybody's on here. Oh actually BEF- Trish Michael Phelps as weird as feet ever and yet people love him for point eight. This was the other thing that confused me. It was like he had the weirdest feet ever Bro. Look at this photo the cuff Lucas feet. They look like fingers They look like skeletons. Yeah I thought to look them up because I knew that about him he famously has like Swire's like the best swimmer in the world. His feet and his hands are like massive paddles. Which is why swim. Semes- Oh my God look at this photo and tell me what not this is like made for for feet fetish so anyway people do like his feet comments here the conflict of women. I don't think so. This is a dude. Good swimmers have good and big flippers Phelps or some of the nicest big food. I've seen toenails. Needs to be manicured better but otherwise beautiful shape. Now that I think of at one of my exes was a swimmer and had the most beautiful big feet. I've seen his toenails were much. This is a gay dude with much. Better manicured toes were thicker. It has a male Avatar. Just the default yeah picture yeah okay. And here's a picture of a dude. I'm sorry about the tops of his feet are terrible. Yeah guys. People Are Picking L. My God this is so weird you guys I would like. He was my very F- first heavy foot crush after all these years. I'm still totally fascinated and hypnotize by his giant tells. This is a gay guy from young footlocker. No can we all agree. Thank yes this is men. These are all men. I mean I think in Michael Phelps case it is okay fine. Let's agree on that point. Yeah now we're moving on. I say okay. They have everybody on this website. I want to put that to the test. What does everybody mean? Well let me show you Charles. Manson as a wicky feed page one star based on this one photo they found it Charles. Manson has a pick and they found it. Can you believe it? So they're mad. Harvey Weinstein is Wikipedia? He actually doesn't have a one-star some he has four. Believe it or not or five star ratings well but ultimately he has a five a one point five and here's Harvey on the beach a Paparazzi photo on comet Disgusting Feet for Disgusting Human Being Crack. Bro Why getty images even own these like what what is wrong with getty images what the F. is going on with getty images whole business they own Rossi photos of Harvey Weinstein on the beach. Lo Who's consuming these the media and Donald Trump or whatever you know why trump has a one star rating There's only one known picture of his feet. He's sitting on a throne of a swan in a white suit. This'll be one of our photos that thing I've ever seen. That is very strange. He's this is just so weird and he's got bad feet. Apparently so you want really want a president with one-star feet okay. Let's let's put it this way without getting political. Donald Trump has one star Joe Biden on the other hand. Let's see what Joe Biden no results Joe. Sh Okay but then let's look at Bernie. Yeah no Joe Bernie no Bernie Sanders. Wow I think Donald Winston because he's the only one brave enough to take full about Obama. Oh you know we check out. Obama has a really high rating on. Say let me open up. Charles Manson's let's see Obama Barack Yep yeah you know. He's he's got a four point. Eight feet yeah. You're you like that Dude Oklahoma. Come on Oh yeah did kill. Or He's got some killer feed pro- Yeah look at that. That is a shot of his feet. There's nothing else in there. It's awesome we guys. Give me a minute seeing those pictures of him like Paddle Surfing. Like just all just all ideology and politics aside like the contrast between just fucking Blob of a human being that we have skid me. We're not getting political. I just got bench style. You can't say about our Dear Leader. Kim. I'm I'm not talking physicality. Did you guys hear this far that he's interested? Oh I thought that was a drop was released. Him wouldn't that loud. It was loud. It was a lot that I thought it was Zack. Doing a drought. Yeah it was like Wendy Wendy. I just got so excited. So we got Harvey Weinstein. We've got Charles Manson. We've Got Louis C. K. Let's see what his feet of follow. Yeah I'm not trying to put him in the leagues of of such. But he doesn't. Fortunately I have a one point. Four rating And you can only see those. You can't see anything. So do you think this is an unfair rating for Lewis when he more data and more data record Bill Cosby has a WIKI FEET. Page and Bill Cosby actually has a nice set of feet photos and despite his crimes he has three. So let's have a look. I mean these are some really good picks and look at that you don't. There's a lot of pixie boy. Look at that. One is so crunched together. It's probably bring it down to score a little. Yeah yeah that's not a good rain cold. Well bills on here. Vladimir Putin has a wicky feed page all right and you'll be surprised you know. He has a lot because he does martial arts and frankly a a pretty good rating three point six tons of Ladimir Putin picks and I have to tell you. He's got kinda small feet. What does it say well? He's just he's supposed to be this man shoes size nine him. He's not really because in Russia. They're all about hyper masculinity and he's short dude with little feat but he bought he's does karate you know rides around on horseback without a shirt on and it makes up for it and otherwise. I mean Yeah Dude The Dude shows feet off. Don't actually know his feet. Look Pretty Masculine here. I think I jerk off on those feet given the opportunity right. Dan Sure Pol Pot gasoline even thought to look at the Pol Pot. Natori is Mass murderer once star but here they are nonetheless areas killed millions and he has a wicky feet page Man Somebody. Can you imagine? I mean this. This is amazing. Pol Pot has a wikipedia page credible others comments to who was a guy killed two million Cambodians but feet five stars. I actually looked up. Stalin's he's not on here man. That's incredible so check out the Pol Pot. Guess who else is on here Ted Bundy? That's right Aureus. Serial killer Ted Bundy and they are hideous. Yeah what the Fuck. The did did not Man I yeah. This guy's a give me the creeps. Let's get off that bond but he's on here one Star Ladies and gentlemen. I'm feeling pretty flatter with my rating so far. Well Alex Jones is on here coming out one point six and he only has one fo look him. I love his body type. Alex Body type pick. There's some breaking news about Alex Jones. You know it looks like a pillowcase. Over stuff like overstuffed pillow case. What's the breakdown was Arrested for Dui last night. Oh you know what I'm so not surprising neither. Dui what a fucking Douche bag. I hate that. That's so shitty. I wonder how drunk was he? I don't know any details. I just saw the headline this morning. Jones arrested for Dui. Oh what is this? Kristen Peres this one. He'll have to switch to defeat women there. Six hundred download. You GotTa admit what has been. Diesel Thing Yeah. I agree I agree. What's the rating on Taylor? Yeah she's got one-star Dang well VIN DIESEL. A few rated. This I think he would. He would probably give it a. Was she an image? Vin Diesel. She can't talk yes I agree. Thank you okay. That's feet so Pol Pot is on here is my favorite Charles. Manson is on here. Oh Jared Fogel is on here ladies and Gentlemen Cared Vogel of subway from an advert. Apparently of some sort Jared Fogel yes. The cereal is just bear. Subway all the frames. So what do you say about those Feta? Jared Fogel as once one point two. There was someone who was like you know what for. They're not that bad. I can't lie Fogel and of course Michael Jackson who was a very handsome young man. He was he was so fit. Look at that. That's a twin. I've ever seen one of my life. That was like the definition of a twin. It's such a shame. He was so closeted gay he could have been like such eka crushed in the gay community. You know what I mean. He'll everything is all. He would have embraced the fact that he was just beautiful toy inc he would have got had so much. Greg Gay sex look at those ads. A me was such an incredible athlete. The dancing it was very good looking before all the surgeries. Yeah very handsome guy. I would jerk off onto his feet seem. Everything's shame and about how he was thinking of himself. Thoughts on his feet though Pretty gnarly what's Three low rating for Michael. He's all over the board. That poor Michael Awhile. He's got some crazy feet man. Michael Jackson Bresson feet gone Well that's it on on on Waikiki. Feet I hope you'll learn something I hope you Had A couple of laughs. I'm sure that a certain percentage of you have your Dick out and our group man if you didn't jerk off during the segment you're on Waikiki. Right now Thomas me that if you do go to Waikiki. Jerk off the you'll come back and finish the episode. At the very least. I would like some emails to Let us know if there's anyone who is listening who is a member of wiki feet. Let us know what is the purpose of the website for you? Yeah you can read it in anonymously. Podcast at H. reproductions productions dot com. Don't identify yourself well with that being said we are at the bottom of our show and you know what time it is. It is time for Dan to send the news That's right around Mega Doodoo. Sorry how come you. Desktop is so much more vibrant than Oh because I have a Mac. Let's see the colors are better? What kinetics different? I don't know way more vibrant. What can I say you pay you? Pay a premium for those colors. Okay Fair enough. So welcome to the news. Everyone good to be back Thank you I lead story today. Not really lead story. It's not really putting any particular order You guys saw it right. The first one either both of them. Yes the first one. Yes okay so what did you think? I mean You know the actor that played Pennywise Bill Bill. Scars Guard A pretty good job in that role right. Yes and You know I think to a lot of people. Tim Curry is the iconic clown from But to the younger generation. It's it's going to be bill and I'm happy to report that. He's going to be reprising the role in another movie. It's coming back as pennywise once again. it's not a Stephen King movie though He's going to be in space jam to pennywise space. Chimps still is that official It's not completely official but But there are substantiated rumors laying the clown and and and yes in patient. Space Jam to starring Lebron James in the that's stranger than Pol Pot having a wicky it's pretty strange and he will be Joining some other characters which It seems I don't know what this movie is going to be I guess the other rumor is that Jim Carey will be in it as the mask. Oh my God yeah This movie has had a lot of problems. It was in development hell forever. I think that they fired the director. A few times I think it's been delayed multiple times. Probably going to be does it. I think it's time it's time to just. Yeah abort on the Well I'm looking forward to that. Were you fan of space? Jam Growing up the original movie. You liked it. Are you have like a space jam shirt? I've seen you wear at one point right space. Jam Drawing I loved it at the time I I have not seen the movie. You have never seen space jam. How did I not I almost to admit it but here? Conic R Kelly A your foot R Kelly did it. I believe I can fly right arm talking together. I thought it was so amazing that they brought like cartoon and real people at the same time I loved the looney tunes. Yeah To lock up so you know it had all that going. For in retrospect not a good movie really awful. Michael Jordan can act and Actually good at all but as a Kid. It was quite fun. all right Continuing on in entertainment news You guys are familiar with Dolly Parton. Of course right Dolly Parton Dolly Parton. She's She's I think so. Yes you really. You're not familiar with her icon country music so She famously many many years ago was the covergirl to Playboy it looks like One thousand nine hundred seventy eight to Think so we thought you know Zach knows of course Zach wishy nude in this I don't know how you GonNa be on a cover playboy not show them titties. She's got she must have. Yeah I think it will cause the cover is different than the centerfold right. I mean well I know she's not just there's other news other than the centerfold will not anymore apparently Yeah I know. The story is is that Apparently playboy is now woke her thing now. They stopped showing news. I do not really but I heard they brought it back because nobody was buying. I don't know though I'm not. I'm not if they brought it back. We're in for something because apparently She's looking to get back onto the cover. She now is the role on. Dolly is Seventy five years old now. What are those little guarantees? She's on Waikiki. Do you WanNa know no I pardon. Waikiki we're finding out we gotta know. Yeah well you got a four point three I have. That's about what I have you in Dolly. Let me see that one with the let me see four zero zero seven zero nine four with the shootout one. Yeah her feet smashed in. They're oh going the wrong direction. That's not good. That's the issue regardless. Don't wear it doesn't look comfortable at all. Papa comedown what is Vin diesel? Think about guy. Of course he does diesels a little bit of a horn. Dogra find out today. He likes He likes feet. What do you think about Vin? Diesels feet he's gotta be on Wikipedia. Right yeah for sure. We've got He's got four point three well. Let's have a look instead. Let's take a look here point three. I've got bad. He's got the same rating. Vini does that factor in you think I think people like thing or into the I would guess that in the case of guys case of probably not. So what else do we have in the news? Dan so finally to round out. Entertainment News This one is Kinda close to home. I'm sure you guys have heard And we were all getting like a bunch of messages about two o our friend. Post Malone has been Getting accused of I guess not accuse us in the right word. There's been an outpouring of concern that he has been abusing drugs based off of his performances at concerts. Well what is this awful which fun? Oh Yeah Yeah. And it's going on. He wrote rocket. This is Phil. Defrancisco Broncos all right. Well I don't I don't personally care just a lot going on. Yeah I've I've obviously been seeing a lot of this posting these pictures right or Video of himself. Yeah let's let's have a look. There's music I think it gets his picking up the Mike Lovingly. I mean you can't really say he's just not doing ask in this case. I mean he looks a little loopy. But who's in this one? I don't think we should play the music up. Yeah get so. He's singing his eyes rolling back but then again he knows the cameras there He's performing directly to it for the I. Mag for the big screen And Yeah so what's now happened is Everyone was going crazy. Everybody's going crazy people start emailing you ma- right trust me. He's so his his dad Kinda got out there and Said he's tired of this and posted a video and this is kind of started seeing it was kind of what I suspected were videos from a concert. Plays for an hour. Where where's the rest of it again? Zach I guess Make sure this is muted But you know. Here's his shell same show at some of them you know. And he's playing guitar singing Definitely that looks like a sober man to me right exactly. And then he He actually directly addressed it at one of his cons. I did start to get worried for a minute when because I got so many messages about Ed. There's just that inundation yeah and everyone was freaking out but then I saw his dad's threes. There's that one that you didn't show. That was making the rounds where he was falling on the stage. I don't know if that was on there. You felt like well. When I saw that one I was like dude. He's obviously just acting not this. I was GonNa say the one where he falls road rocket dropped the ball on this one but anyway he falls on the stage singing. I fall apart. I was like -tunities. Obviously just doing theatrics and he's and I think most of these videos where he had his eyes rolling and stuff were from Rockstar. Where I mean. It's literally a song about doing bills and stuff like a Rockstar So that seems to be the case. At least that's what he's saying is that he's fine. Let's hear this. I haven't heard this is Moves MINUS WHEN Stones Warren Knoll. Anybody that's been so long so long seems pretty coherent saying all that not slurring it all seems pretty with it so yeah. I think I mean I can understand why people get. I'll say this about him. I don't talk to him. I haven't talked to him in a while and His life is so crazy. I don't think he's on drugs in this moment but I can you know the guys. He has crazy life so I mean he healthy stays responsible and stays healthy. I mean there's a certain you're one of the biggest artists in the world. You're what twenty. Three's a young man that lots of pressures. He's always on the road. I hope that but he has you know what I always thought. He has good people around him like his brother is always what them. Who's like awesome anthem? Sweet it seems like he's okay yet but but everybody concerned in but I do. I do I do hope that I I don't have any concerns about him. I don't know what I'm getting out. We'll get righty. Lo people freak out hazy with twitter like just a couple people probably started it and then it became. This whole thing is crazy. That's that's the that's like the stand the stand Talapity can I coined that term. I kinda liked. Then I mean you know there have been a spate of big rappers that have died. That's overdoses in the last couple of years. So that's obviously why people concerned because he's way bigger than all of them. He's got a ton of pressure is always on tour. He's always fucking moving. I haven't spoken wall so I can't speak any. I can't speak from any empirical place but just he doesn't live in Los Angeles anymore. Right right now. Yeah Yeah. That makes it tougher Well good. I'm glad but the time I've known he was. He was never abused drugs. Ever know only ever drink beer. You never touch anything else ever anything else. Just for the record. I'll say that and I'm just he's never touched anything else that I when I've been with them go good to know. Dan. Is there anything else? yeah This past Sunday was international. Women's Day congratulating graduate. Thank you there. Men's Day I think some people would argue. Most days are men's Day would argue that he's pointing out but What do I get for women? Well what I'll tell you what you Get something I mean. You may get a few things but one set of people that are going to be taking care of. You is the Shell Oil Company because to commemorate International Women's Day they temporarily changed their name from Shell to Michelle to she'll to she will You fucking show. How Awesome Mine Oil? Shut up how cool is that? That is so STU. And why why are you go? Hey Hey oh empower your gas. Just remember she'll wow. I want to blow up the gas station. Make the future gender-balanced. Throw your gas station. Fuck Home My God. So dumb see it go go build a a go build a A couple of solar panels or something instead talking about. Shell do a lot more. Good for the world than What do you think you're the female voice there thinking? No one would ever care about this. Who Cares they actually spend? It went through all this rubble. This dream you the staff and put it on you know whenever I see something like this I always always think of the meetings in the market and all the money spent the time thought then they have to print all these shows put over it and then they have to take it off. I mean wow. It's a lot of effort for a very little. So you're saying if I go to show right now it's a it. They're all know you mister opportunity. On Sunday they already put them and took them all. It's International Women's Day. Why would a? But that's too in fact. I think it was very limited. This was in San Dimas though which is Far from here so we could have gone show. I may not have remembered but shell shell. Oil Did so congratulations again. You did it and speaking of oil The biggest point drop in the history of the stock market happened yesterday about people seeing this. I guess it'd be two days ago Monday. Let's say Monday. and The biggest one day loss in percentage wise since two thousand eight October. Two Thousand Eight which I can't really remember what was going on in October. Two housing crash. Oh Yeah Oh when economy claps. Yeah that was a good one. Yeah that's right so but I will say so when they say that it's important to remember that the point system doesn't is not comparable because this is a needs to be expressed per percentage because the points are higher. That's what I was saying. The persona percentage is higher. It's the the biggest percent drop. Oh since October two thousand and eight well how he gets actual point. Drop ever. I see so yeah probably basic deal. It was based on corona and also there was some issue with oils. So I guess there is a price. War going on between An oil supply pack between Saudi Arabia and Russia collapsed and both countries vowed hike. Production are too close to salads right And so yeah. I really wanted to talk about this though. In all of these articles about the stock market. There's all these photos of like looking frazzled. what does it get these? No getty images. Exactly what what is vin diesel? Think about this phone. I thought so I love this guy. Yeah tell me tell me He's like an old Wolverine Wolverine. Hair on can you tell me? How's the market today that it rebound So this morning. It was fluctuating wildly. It was up overnight and then it dropped lost all of that but then later this afternoon it looked like it was back up at the moment. It's backup significantly a thousand points Yeah well again affect any of us in any way at all Well I mean obviously if you have 401k if you have retirement and stock market it affects have old brains. They'll be dying any there'll be perishing. This virus spreads anyway. It was certainly what happens to their money When they all perish to do we get it. You're talking about you're talking about old people. In general I mean like think about corona wipe out. All the old people trickled down for. The economy will trickle down economics. Yeah that could be less social security. All their money trickles down to us have much money. No they do. They've got 401K's they hoard it. Those old fuckers they it. That's a good question it If I had to guess who probably what I'm trying to say is by 'cause if this virus comes in wipes decimates every old person trickled down less security okay. This is iron. It's going to help the economy. The bank thing aside from the oil stuff is the supply chain disruptions which I I'm sure you guys are intimately familiar with All kinds of stuff through teddy freshman everything And everybody's feeling it right now so Yeah I think I think everything will be for awhile now. So we'll see what happens. We'll see how that develops but I wish the best to this This can dude on the on the article here. I wish him well hope. I hope he's having a better day today I thought somebody was having better day. He had hair at the beginning of the day. This guy is twenty and I write Big News in the world of World Records Love World Records on the show we do the largest gathering of smurfs average thirty five hundred people they they braved. Z's hold and everything I just I was reading the headline and I just struck by. Lightning has around thirty five hundred smurfs aside their fears of Corona. What now did you have? The SPURS SURF. Show real with it. Actually you liked it now. I wondered if they had it in. Israel because famously I don't know if you've Dave Guy. Yes Americans I think it's very bad. He's an evil wizard. is aware of Gargano -plication. Now I don't think Gargle Mel is Jewish name however his cat. His little caveat is named as Israel that's so Jewish name Angel of death but I can get it does have a big nose magic powers. He loves gold. He kind of looks jewelry. In general do we know anything about the Creator was he was he and Hillary this show or Belgian originally Which does not mean for us but the smurfs are the good guys and he's the bad guy. Yeah he's Oh wait. Wait wait yeah. That's not good well for the if you're buying this idea that is based on a Jewish richer so what is so if we flesh out the analogy the smurfs are. I don't care if all that much before. I defy personally with Guilt Gilgamesh. You feel feel Gilgamesh well. He wants to get rid of these smurfs. Who are honestly. I just WANNA solution to these smart. Probably you could say a final solution would say that It's a very big showing Israel or fair enough Yeah I always hated it as a kid. I didn't really wasn't into dom never captured my imagination. Here here's something that did cut in Colorado they They know how to handle politics. They have elected you have to get Van. Is Turning Arthur? The snow dog sworn in as the mayor of Georgetown Colorado. Just take a look at that fish. Look that is so funny. He will probably govern better than most. I loved this dog elected officials. He rules. Look at this guy is on instagram now. Follower OF YEAH. He looks big. He is official. He is literally an official of Liquid. Man. I'm assuming a lot of smaller towns. The HE'S GONNA burn. He's going to sign a set. Budget dog has an owner right. Does it mean to the owners? Kinda like the mayor. That's a good question about neurotic. Corruption owns the snow dog Yeah and has a good point. What does this actually mean that? This dog is an elected official. I my Incidentally mayor doesn't hold a lot of executive power in this particular town. Well it'd be may be more of a figurehead of sorts. I think in a lot of small towns. The mayor doesn't really do is just a member of the community exactly. It's more of a figurehead. Like show up for a parade right right and so he can fulfill that valiantly best way possible. Yeah exactly he's not doing a good job. Of course he said he said he gatty and I forget what else we got. All right I got a few more. This is the only gone on for a while. So this is the only important one There's a in Australia. There's this famous artists who were controversially. Because I believe Some governmental grants were given to help create this thing Made this giant Balloon called Sky The Sky Whale and It had been gone for a few years. But it's back didn't look at the let me let me know what you think of this nipple. Scotto returns a bunch of dips all. They're supposed to be the legs. I think they're actually are supposed to be nipples. Apparent lies It tale about this. I don't know this is the fucking freaky thing we got your window and seeing this flying. It's for all your listeners is a giant whale head and then like ten huge kind of like a cow like others almost does look like female titties. Yeah it's Apparently can fly. It's a hot air balloon and there's this thing flies vin diesel. Think about it. Think about this. It's true right. I guess some people just want a lot of nipples right. This looks like when you try to and it just completely goes wrong. We try to So Yeah I'm I couldn't find a video of it flying around because I think they're still just testing it ever took late parents and finally I just wanted to share this story. you know things are? We're in a political season. Things get very heated But just as a reminder of how much worse it could be There was just elections in Afghanistan and I guess the results unfortunately are contended. And now you have a situation where People are just acting like. They're the president. Pat Awesome inauguration ceremonies which had more won. The electoral commission says the incumbent Ashraf Ghani narrowly won but Ashraf Ghani my very positive thing. And the other guy's name if the guy's name is Ab- Dula Abdulah Say it again Abdulah Abdulah. What's his last name? Abdulah and spread it common and his first name Abdulah. Does he have a middle name? I don't I guess what's his Middle Name. Good chance Might be Abdul Walk so say all three of his name's Boola Boola. Boola got him pretty common for wise at common. Why have they not figured out to change the name? Why do you need the same name twice? Especially if there's so many people with the same isn't the name to distinguish you from other people as deep. Okay it's it says a lot about the culture what yeah think about it because we value individuality here but if you over there you have two names let's say you're named Mohammed Mohammed everybody's over surnames Mohammed. How many people are Mohammed Mohammed? Was the point of having names in distinguishing yourself. Mother people. If you're just going to say oh my name is Mohammed Mohammed new got a billion Mohammed. Mahama's riding around. There's no individuality going on Iran. Okay up Dan is no look apparently Abdulah only had a first name and demands from Western. Newspaper Editors for a family name led him to adopt the full name. Abdul Abdulah so it was actually his own choice. But you're okay. Well now I WANNA know. What's his middle name and I demand it if he didn't have a last night we don to get him to give second name than I demand a middle name and I want him to say Middle Name. You know it's not. I think a lot about your culture. Well what does it say? There's a lot less Israelis because America. Let's say that In America there could be like you know a million. Ethan Klein's thus but there's not many with the same middle name as me maybe one or even zero. I guess you don't really use the middle now are like well if there's someone with the exact same name as you it's helpful. I don't know what is your Middle Name. I'M NOT GONNA say it on air really the only thing that's all you it's Edward. I think it's I think it's I go bears. Well no no. It's embarrassing I go. They don't every wave out. We've said it actually because it's how we came up with each tree right. Yeah we're headed before Nathan Edward Ethan. So is there anything else in the news as we Yeah just one last thing. This is less of a story and more I just I I found this so fucking funny. That just had to share You probably remember our old friend representative Paul Gosar Khazar sounds like a yes you remember getting goes ARD This is the guy with the family who made An epic political ad or other. We said that we call it getting goes ours and goes ARD. Okay so Mr goes are. I won't talk in specific get goes well He got something he May May or may not be in quarantine right now from on now he got goes already knows. And then he tweeted this Been thinking about life and mortality today. I'd rather die gloriously in battle than from a virus in a way it doesn't matter but it. Kinda does I saw this and he did it along with a picture of what appears to be an ancient Chinese rattle. Right some reason I saw this tweet and I didn't realize it was goes are but now I understand why entire family and something else I knows about this is his tag is Dr Paul Gosar. He's not a doctor. Well so I was curious. I looked it up and He's not a medical doctor. He's a dentist. How do you feel about dentists? You have a doctorate degree. I believe you do need a type of doctor to become a dentist. So it's fine if you a doctorate's degree a little bit of Dr Nba Right. Like I don't I the Seinfeld thing. Well if you say. Is anyone here a doctor? And then the dentist gets off. It's like don't you have not you know but doctors title. I know I know I know but I think he deserves doctor. How many years of school do you go to for the dentistry? I mean it's the same amount. That's a good question. How many calls me not years to my instinct says. Well let's see then we decide. Does he have a doctorate? Rest really the question. Four years four years to become a doctor's like eight hold on hold on a bus. There must be some further dentistry school. You can do optionally. Maybe just say doctor for because of this. Our DENTISTS DO. Dentists have doctorate degrees yet. Right there Dr it's Dds In a d. m D degrees are considered equivalent majority of dental scorer's award the Ds however some award the D. M. D. I'm assuming the MD is the is the me. M D is Dr Right. And then there's some burrow Casper's doctor of dental surgery and doctor of dental medicine so he can prescribe medicine. Everything that's a dog. Doctors can prescribe medicine. Your dot. Okay Fair enough. I won't take that away from him but but in talking thank you say that being said his whole family did make a hit piece against them. Any by the way to he did win. He's in Congress is a representative How do you win when your whole family makes the headpiece against listen? Nobody knows better than us where his whole family do not vote for any still a little crazy and And that's it for the news today. Well thank you for the news and Thank you thank you. Thank you Friday tristesse coming in. Oh Yeah it's going to be great so do not go Stay at your computer until then all right. Thanks for watching everybody. Thanks for watching.

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My name is Bomani Jones as for listening wherever you get your podcast rate US review US gives five stars you only give was forced to ours. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. Coming up this episode of the right time will tell you about monkey stealing covert nineteen samples. We got your voicemails on the biggest lies. You've ever heard or told, but I. All right I mean I. Guess You Kinda Sorta. Know what would become in I and I'm assuming you know because I'm assuming at least fifteen sixteen y'all have called me to ask me to be on your radio show, podcast or television program in the last forty eight hours. People turn on the news. Is All the world was burning in by? Me about world burden on sand that that's being different part I imagine as to why some people are here to listen to me now on this particular pockets. The thing with George Floyd in Minneapolis One thing of course I have to start with has just got you know if you know me, know anything about me I. Don't watch the videos anymore. I just don't. I don't need to see how somebody has died like I remember. My brother was told me that he had never seen the joke. Is Injury Right? Enjoyed assegais leg broken. He said people talk what it was, and he was like a lie the world I wanNA watch that right. That's kind of where I am with a lot of these beliefs, videos and understand that people feel like they need to watch like you can't just bury your head in the sand. I mean you could watch that video then after you watch, bear your head in the sand. Right after right down to bury my head in the sand when it comes to watching somebody. Is just not my bag right the particulars of it for me honestly don't matter that much. But y'all watch this video and my only guest that I can have as to why what's happened with Florida's generating much different response. We've seen with a lot of other situations. Evolve police. Killing people is the video game. Did you watch it? It's less I've seen the video in more of seeing the photos from said video guy because I think that for a lot of people like watching somebody get shot. Especially because like in the movies of people get shot. It's just a little bit more dramatic than it is. In real life like I've seen. Somebody gets shot in front of me. I've seen people get shot on video like ain't no flash-bang that comes out of the good in real life like you see in the movies, right is not necessarily so dramatic. Somebody just like flailing around when they get shot very often. macy's somebody there, and then all of a sudden they on the ground like you just just kind of goes, and I think that. In the same way, the guns may killers out of a particular set of couch. Watching videos of shootings could also just kind of like not hit you in that way because it. Almost effect doesn't seem real and so I. think that for some people ever what I've been told because I've asked about this watching this cop put his knee on Dudes, neck and lean on over nine minutes. It just went beyond anything that people were accustomed to seeing. There was really no rationalization that you could make about it, and there was no like I always say that by. As far as killing people goes, you gotTa have something to kill somebody which bear heads right like all of us I think are capable of killing somebody with a good right like what would flash impulse, or whatever it is just about every single person is capable of killing somebody with a good. It's a rare select subset of people that kill somebody, but their bare hands. It, just takes something else in you to do something else in you to kill somebody with a knife, but let alone with no weapons like you just go and use your body and whatever to kill somebody. And a whole lot of people that can do that is so if you are watching somebody kill someone by putting in Neon net why man's is holding them down and got from what I understand the real self satisfied. Look on your face. Is Very difficult for people to view that as anything other than an active evil right like if you were to watch what happened as it's been described to me. And just kind of shake it off or walk way late. That's the kind of thing to make you ask questions about yourself at that's. That's the impression that I've gathered from. This is so that's the only way that I can guess that it's gone like this. We had of a man Nick right on last week. Engage funny I was just like so. What's going to happen if this turns into something that makes it impossible for industry, ignore and I said that you'll TV networks go look just like they did in two thousand sixteen and guess what? Our TV network just like it did in two thousand Sixteen Ryanair, but it was just like ridiculously woke displays, guide and everything else. We'd is out here doing jobs here. We are again to do our jobs. This is where we are, but we asked. So. What's GonNa Happen with? This becomes impossible to avoid stuffing street. is now made this impossible to avoid almost ironically, because a direct ties the politics where everybody says you got to stay away from politics. Welcome to the real world. We're now here now. I admit that for me. It is both appreciated and awkward. The wife Oh showed up to the party now. Obviously, it is appreciated because people are more likely to listen to why people than they ought to listen to me on these matters like instead of the fact that the Goodman Sharda Cheney murders in the nineteen sixties with significant turning point in the civil rights movement enlarge because they had these. These? Images of these two white dude's getting killed right by. We had a new face on. This is like Oh man, this can happen to us and I take another level of what's going on these streets right now that I think is turning a bit of the tiding. Informing the attention that this is getting is as much as the cops tree black folks worse than they treat why folks let's not. Not Pretend like they're that great white people like yeah. They'd be showing up with. He's white. Ladies called up about nonsense. They come. Run you out and all that stuff like that, but it's plenty of white dues. Real messed up stories about dealer with the police. Because reality is impolitely side, they go put a hands on you. It didn't really matter who you are. They GONNA put a hand on you. You and they are going to get away with it, and with these protests which have brought more white people into the streets to participate. We are also seeing footage of the police running over Y. folks throwing in white women down onto the ground. Right like the idea. Police brutality is a lot broader. Okay, so if you think about this, if your political inclinations or toward the side of Libertarianism Libertarianism and Lot of ideological flaws, but I see how people arrive at that place. If you are truly libertarian. There was going on with. The police has to be offensive to your sensibilities right like in runs counter to everything that you say that you believe unless you as libertarian see the people who are under taking the brunt of whatever it is and you're like okay, this is not me, but now they are starting to hit white people with this now becomes a Oh maybe not like Dale Murphy gave I. Imagine Dale, Murphy Your Age Deal Murphy don't mean that much. You've Murphy is my first favorite athlete of like I. Remember Having Dale Murphy Poster on. On the wall for first braves game went to eighty seven, and like Vegas sponsor must have been I think it was asking my whoever was wondering how dot com, because they had the flavor of south on ranks sponsor autos giveaways ahead although you know, I had to Eddie, Murphy Postponed Wall like Murph for people of a particular age. Black White adult matter, Murph is our do Murph is also a member of the Church of Jesus. Christ and Latter Day saints like extra white. You know, but our LDS, brothers and sisters generally speaking are not so wild about this trump thing. And so I wonder how that's caused. Some interesting kind of ideological overlap of enemy of my enemy is my friend getting some of those people to explosive causes that they might not have otherwise considered just because I down anything trump is down for so anyway. Murph said that his son was protested in Denver and got hit with a rubber bullet. And by the way like a rubber bullet, I'm trying to think of something that's analogous to the rubber bullet where they want you to think about the rubber part, but the bullet by still a big deal. Anyway next thing I know, look on twitter Murph is not just standing with protesters. Murph is not just sending out links to bail phones. Murph out here. Sit out links to the N. double ACP Legal Defense Fund and the Black Lives Matter Movement. by the way let me just say if I may make this personal for a moment. And I know this is not fully rational, right? Ikat a baby a little bit of Bozo to see the about first favorite player showed up. A what I think is the side. Right in this particular boby is like. We are all in this together. That's all right but I mentioned Murph as an example of how this has attracted attention for white people in a much different way right, and so it is appreciated today there because again. There are people who will listen to Dale Murphy. Who Will Not listen to me and it's good that we see those people in space. On the other hand. I would like to like. Have a discussion is so point, and we gotTA DECIDE BY WACO. We start laughing at our white friends about some of the stuff that they do it right now. Because they mean well right on a wife. Ridge me very well I imagine that you are a black person news in spaces where you have like. You did a lot of white people. You're received a text messages you have gotten the emails of people just wanting to find out how you are doing and. Greatly appreciated like from where I come from on this, because I know that people are doing this for the bottom of their hearts from the bottom of their hearts. Some of this stuff is up. Rory as bad. Goes the big. I can do for you now, not really if there was out of bit hit you up about her while ago. Just so you know, and then again everybody means will so I don't ever want to say something that makes people feel like I'm dismissing them pushing them out of hand like I don't know how many the seeing a movie called Malcolm. X., but I try to be the moment with white girl goes up to Malcolm, and it's like. If there's anything to wipe. You do the movement and he says nothing. He walks away like Nah I'm not saying that but actor say time mad. Have you seen some of the things that people are putting up on instagram? They just don't know what to say. That's all it is right. They all being well. They just don't know what to say to into blackout. Thing on the Internet today. It's going all kinds of places, and that's fine I. Don't I don't have any issue. A real a disagreement with that, but I ain't gonNA lot. My agent told me that his job that they supposed to be doing a blackout today. You know like think about some stuff. A man! What if I need to talk to you? Can you, can you black in for your client? No, no put down that copy of between the world and me. I got some things I need to get rectify. We have all of this that is going on totally at what, but it all feels so tense I. Think a lot people and for me like seeing what's going on. Outside doesn't make me feel tense right now. I got a bad feeling where this is all ultimately going to go, and I'll be honest with you. My fear in this is that we will. Will have a tnn square moment with everything. That's going on outside. Look Man. We see cops. Ride down the street opening a car doors. It hidden people. We see them. Throw people around like all of this stuff. This to me is a limitation in the way that the media handles things involving police of generally, but these kinds of things specifically which is. People in the media are not equipped to discuss things on street level, not saying this to you as though I'm like the rough and tumble is dude who comes from the mean streets of wherever it is right, but what I'm saying is that was happening right now with police in the way that they're being used? It's streak and when I say that it street I mean that street because who runs the streets wherever Yo-. City is who runs the streets. The cops run the streets and with people. People talk about like super duper bad neighborhoods. What's the argument that they make arguments they make? Is that neighborhood so bad? Even the police don't want to come in there right because those streets don't belong to the police anymore, right? That's what they're saying, but street everywhere you go. The streets are the property of the police. You go outside your house right now. WHO's in charge? Who makes the rules tells you what you can and cannot do the police do that. They run the streets. Okay so. You could think about that. Invite broader terms using more jargon. You look at it and disable the police or the authority to police alarm or the police have legal authority like all those things. That's the way that you say that that's the way that they can say it on television, but that will resonate like what it is on the level that we're talking about. Which is the COPS? Run the streets, and so what happens now when you get hundreds of people and you get thousands of people and they're marching in the streets right there running up on these stores right some people in it's a little tricky talking about who, and why in this case all I break your windows and doing all this stuff and they do it everything else. Else, they are taking over the streets now. You and I can look at it as okay. Well these urges rebellions, or whatever it is going on in this current moment in time, and then it'll pass or whatever data dot, but the cops are looking at it as if we let people get in these streets and feel like the streets belong to them then they think that the streets belong to them all the time, and no the streets belong to us, and so what you have is a fight over who do the streets truly belong to? And when you think about it like that all their brutality that you're going to see in the stuff that you see on television. It's happening because for one side. This is a fight for the other side. This is a war. That's a huge stage before you get to race in anything else. You just gotTa. Understand what you watch right now is about who runs the streets, and the cops ain't going back down on it until it is clear that they are in fact, the people who. who run these streets and we've seen this happened enough. We've seen it happen over and over and over again we've seen it happened in all of these place now. Another reason why I think what's happened with George Floyd has resonated with people is another enemy of my enemy is my friend. Scenario with that is is that I? Think a lot of people. Looked on television and Saudis folks running up on state houses in all of these places with their long guns, right? Why because they won't go get a haircut. You know why because they would go to a restaurant and they saw those people treated with courtesy. You get what I'm saying. And then after seeing those people treated with courtesy, the justice position to see in George Floyd and then the justice position seeing auto cops come out, Ri- year and everything else right like all that put together, and if you were one of those people who legitimately was like. Oh, no, I just don't think it's like that that all became very difficult to ignore, but you notice when folk show of somewhere, but long guns, they all get aggressive with it why? Because, ultimately they note Hindus with the long guns kind of run day streets. They're the ones who are Kinda in charge. They come out here with artillery as big as your artillery and their white. Right they command certain level of authority just by virtue that these other people that you're dealing with really art. That's why they don't bug back at them. Why 'cause once again? We're still on the street level when we talk about this. They look at those dues and now man Bagel fight back like all of these people come out here to protest this stuff behind the police on the streets. You think about that. Thanks showing up like somebody might be showing up with a gun, but you don't hear about a whole lot of like mass shooting stuff going on a month. Those do they know they can't be out here? Showing up with weapons, they don't have that level of privilege, but when these? These, cats decided they wanted to get a haircut. They do right. These are all statements of fact by the way like I'm not really giving you a lot of opinion right now. This is just how worse as these cats coming out here with your goods, and then people see all that and they're like Yo. This really is backwards like this really is busted, and in those long guns are showing up to the protests to call themselves maintain a law and order this showing up on streets to protect stores so to speak I saw something. We've had a curfew last night, but it was bands of white dude. Walk around with baseball bats to protect their streets, but the authority of the police department. Is what I mean like so all of this all of this right now is directly in front of you. What is reality to me becomes impossible to ignore. and. That's what I. Think is the cocktail that's come together. That's brought us now to this place. Whereas I record this at eleven o'clock eastern time on Tuesday June, the second. I got no idea what's going to happen by the time we release. This I got no idea what's going to happen by the night that this is out right? I got no idea what's going to happen before you start listening to it I. Don't know right, but all I can do right now. At least on that point is I can tell you what my read is on. Exactly what is going on and more out of the story is? The police are not given the streets to your righteous. They're not. They're not and at some point is going to be a matter of whether the citizens of this country. are going to tolerate that. Like like that how this proceeds really just simply depends on that fact or the citizens of this country, going to tolerate that you can decide whether they should or should not I'm just telling you right now. The meters pushing more toward no than I've ever seen. It pushed before. All right so I was talking to a friend of the program Joel Anderson, who was once? The Fastest Sandy role in America is the only forty year old is still toss about being the fastest ten year old in America anyway, Joe made a very good point. He said as you watch, and you look at all. These corporate statements that come out outlook for the words that aren't use one word that is used. Used sporadically is black manner by knows what to do with Black Angle. Live just! Oh, you know Caucasian brothers and sisters as Caucasian essay there ceaselessly because no one ever calls anybody Caucasian. That's kind of what it is with this African American thing like nothing tells me that a white person don't know what the hell to do quite like they started using like the African American community all talk like that. Say you don't talk like that right why you gotta make up a whole new word. Dog about black people have public what you'd be saying. Well, we not there. It's a legitimate fear question for me to ask when that happens because I'm black in that's fine, and by the way hinted at this point, and maybe one day I'll go deeper into it. We are people. We are not a community. There are communities within which you believe to be that community, but that makes it easy to not think of us as people right. This is something that I think about when I read. All these statements is kind of some of the subtleties in terminology, because look off teams, and he's lease, and he's businesses and everybody else. They put out this statement. They have a problem they're doing. Doing this for public relations number, one thing about public relations is don't offend somebody. It is borderline impossible to say some worthwhile on this matter without offending somebody in somebody in particular, being white people, and that is always with people to try not to do is defend the white folks, so all these teams then wind up in very awkward and difficult situations. Because what they're trying to do is an to. To the way they are trying to do it. Okay. That's where they wind up in a tough with so you wide was statements like the NFL that kind of meanders and goes all over the place, and then you realize they didn't say anything at all I let me let me let me read you that NFL. Statement as because it was. I mean I, guess you can only be who you are right in the NFL, this is not who are they are? This is not really what they do, so. The NFL statement read the NFL family is greatly saddened by the tragic events across the country. The protesters ragged these incidents reflect paint, anger, and frustration to so many of us feel ideas can go out to the family of Mr George, flowing into those who have lost loved ones including the families of Miss Taylor in Louisville and Mr Maat armory cousin. Cousin of Tracy Walker. The Detroit Lions is current events dramatically underscore, there remains much more to do as a country and as league. These tragedies informed the NFL's commitment in our ongoing efforts, there remains in urgent need for action. We recognize the power by platform communities in as part of the fabric of American society we embrace that responsibility and are committed to continuing the important work to address these systemic issues together with our players, clubs partners number. One columnists is stem. IQ allows you to not actually blame any person. Right justice system that's out here running, and it matters that it is stemming, and it's worthwhile to notice back, but then it also absorbed responsibility but to. Say, nothing about the word police right. They say they want to we want to. Address these systemic issues together our players, clubs and partners. Yeoman y'all to ones. That's friends with the police. Won't you talk to them? By, that's your squad. Why. Why don't you go work with them? Like how are we supposed? To make people killing me right? What what? What could people do to make George Floyd? Not Happy, right? This is nonsense that you can't really have. But these are how these statements work, but you notice the word that is not in the statement and the words police. Ain't nobody trying to go to war with the police and I do think that it is worth remembering for us all that in Minneapolis wherever it is after we get done with this with these protests or whatever these arguments and everything that turns out after that goes way. We going, go back onto our lives. The people that directly take all the police are still go be wherever they are in cities where they are, and they still occur all the risks that cub for do a battle with police. Right so outta water pretend is though I don't understand where these teams come from when when they want to avoid like going to war with the police because they're sensitive. Bunch like I. Don't know if you guys noticed Yo Bruce springsteen. Are you familiar with this Bruce springsteen song game called forty-one shots. I'm not familiar. No, it's about the. Diablo shooting in New York in nine thousand around there and the cop shot do was holding his wallet Nishad. forty-one times hit of nineteen times and Hook them saw is is it? A gun is a knife. Is this your wallet? This is your life. It ain't no secret, my friend. You can get yours just for living in your American spirit, right? He's got hold verse about the Talk Like Promise. If an officer stops, you'll always be polite. You'll never ever runaway proms me. You keep your hands inside like all of this stuff is Bruce springsteen. The head of one of the police unions around I can't remember his New York New Jersey. A Like publicly. The police are sensitive. Bunch. That's what I'm saying, so. I get why it is that people don't want to go to war with do. However, we did have one team that made a statement made reference to maybe not the police, but to police and that team is the New York Islanders, we condemn racism and injustice stand with all affected by violence. We must come together. Treat each other with empathy, dignity and respect. The New York islanders endorsed the. The NHL? Statement which includes it our own sport. We will continue to do better work diligently to our culture change throughout hockey and endeavor to be mindful of our own shortcomings in this process to the brave officers who go to work every day seeing the human being and not the color of one's skin. We thank you for protecting US gay. They win. Blue lives matter out you know what is a lot of cops living over there or log alad. That's why they basically said. Police officers by dogs, too, and they basically went i. don't see color on you this. Yes. These are the people that mentioned the police in their statements. These are the people that shows to bring it up, but otherwise nobody wants to talk about the police and what we're talking about is the police. You know. So I think the for these entities and I i. get torn about this because we're gonNA, get into the dabbles situation while I guess it's Kinda my dabbles. When he situation, but anyway we'll get into it in a second, but one level I'm like I. Want to hear something from. These people to entities that have the power to do. We'd like to hear something from them. Right show a significant your customer base right. You know you care about this. While also recognizing the most of these people ain't GonNa say a damn thing. Right and I once do not want people to say something just for the sake of saying it while also wanting people to say something. and. It puts me in an odd place because my go say something, and then the people say something I'm like okay, but that's not good enough, and it's fair for me to say that this is not good. Enough of course gave the New York Knicks. Have you seen this? They're not going to put out a statement. In one Pablo Tori reporter had it back on. Yes, he did. He got that, but you know what's interesting about it Jim Dolan and this is where all this stuff gets wonky. Right Jim Dolan not putting out a statement on this mad problematic right. How many people have given black dudes real position of power? In their basketball organizations in the way the Jim Dolan has. GENERAL MANAGERS VP's basketball operations head coaches. Like Jim Dolan. It Jim Dolan, go get a! Why do. GET ANYWAY, DUDE! He goes and gets Larry Brown. He goes. It gets Phil Jackson. GotTa. You GotTa really really really impress him for him. Not Go higher black dude, but if I was just talking about hiring or whatever it was I, could put that up there, but I could also say the same about Donald Sterling. You see what I mean like. All of this kind of gets jumbled up into what it is. But no I don't want people just to make statements for the sake of making statements. I would say however if you did not put out a statement, these three people put out statements. Or what's go at all right now, Michael Jordan Tiger Woods. And O. J. Simpson I'm just saying if you. Do that I just did I just. Did I just say Oh? They didn't do? I'll just say. Gave you to be deals embiid? It's OK OJ's twitter videos, I haven't seen them. You've never watched. The videos Adolpho Okay I. Don't follow right because they'll put by anybody. Yeah, but I'm not fallen and I'm also not pursuing. Is Not a matter of pursuing it comes up on the timeline. Is that what you're saying? So? It's a safe space, right? No, I think keeping bring this in at a lot of other people have been keeping this in and. I understand. Their significant reason to believe that twenty six years ago. OJ Simpson killed a couple of people. Right good reason to think. That twitter account. Is a fascinating lens to view twenty twenty through. Fascinating those videos are the most bizarre. That anybody is producing because the thing is number one every now and then Oj has a point. Og had a point on this right. But then also every now and then Oj Cada taunts you about the fact that he may have killed a couple of people right so for example gave. When Antonio Brown was active, ridiculous on twitter and messing up OJ's fancy. OJ gets onto twitter account on video, and says as vice view Antonio Brown I'm going to tell you with some of the great legal minds in the history of this country of told me. Just. Don't say anything when something like this comes up. OJ Simpson to you. It's like it's just all over the place, but anyway OJ Simpson. Not here for the police brutality, so if you are someone in a position of visibility a you ain't got nothing to say there. Good reasons for you to not have something to say right I. Actually thought that if people like Jim Dolan more than email goes over differently if he's like look, I'm not going to do this to posture for everybody else. I'm going to worry about. We'll do it here. Here if you like Jim Donor more, you Kinda rock that out, however would OJ Simpson got something to say on the matter, and you do not right people with having to floyd the ones who don't want to say. Something was wrong. Rush. Limbaugh said something was wrong like you are to the right of rush, limbaugh if this happens right and we acknowledged wrestler ball's not a centrist type of figure. Like that's where we are in this. But these teams they WANNA put out these statements. They still think white folks are so racist that they can't tell the truth even once, and that's what it ultimately comes down to. This is the point that I've made this show before and I. Don't Know How many of you fully appreciate it, but this may be your time to like fully think about this. All of these people who think I'm a racist. I think you can handle what I have to say, I think that you can handle the points that make I think that you are capable of listening to me when I talk about situations that are about based on inequalities and inequities I think you can. It's white. People who think you can't. It's corporations who think can't. They're the ones who think that you hate black people so much that if I get out here, it talk about black people being mistreated they. You can't handle listen to. They're the ones that tell you that and you know what maybe they're right like. When it comes down to a matter about black people why folks come and ask me questions. Maybe I need to be asking questions about why folks right like it is entirely possible that I'm. I'm the one that's got it all wrong. That is the person who shows you the respect of thinking that you are intelligent, enough, reasonable enough and have of a moral center about yourself that you can listen to the things that I talk about. Maybe I'm wrong in thinking that you can handle it because you call me raises for me, show and you respect and you appreciate. These people hide behind your little phillies. I think that you can be better than you are. That's it when King dies so. The Carmichael had a great quote. He said he just wanted to be so insane Martin. Luther King got killed. They really hate this. Because I was the only man who thought were redeemable. He's the Dow was the man who loved you enough to think that you could do better. And then you shot him. Right they just just think about what that means. I mean just think about what comes to the bottom of it and think about that. When you see all this stuff that these teams themselves are not saying but part of why they're not saying it and I. Get this. They got too much in a own houses that they gotta clean up like when the NFL is like. Yeah, we recognize racism. Yeah I recognize it. It's your hiring practices right? Yeah, I recognize. Recognize it is the way that you treat quarterbacks like you have so many explicit issues, a race within your own house, and so I do think that a lot of these seems like Oh. We gotta be careful not to put out a statement. That's not going to turn into a, but what about I just saw it a second ago? When it comes put out a statement and talk about how opposed they were to racism, and then people start digging up. Up, all, the stuff that he's rickets, folks had to say overtime calling Islam a cult for example and stuff like that right all that stuff starts popping up so these teams don't know what to do. Because now is the time for them to stand for right, but they necessarily try to do right, and so the police situation allows you to otherwise right allows you to put it off, and then you call it. The system system were no. George floors neck, right? Right a person, but unless you put all that stuff all the way away away away away away away away away, but now we gotta sit back with these teams, and they got to look at what they do in front of themselves like they gotta look at what they are doing themselves you know. And what are they gonNa do then let me tell them right. They normally do a little fun usable. Break right here, but I'm GONNA. Just go straight into. College football players are a part of this I. Don't think our media is fully appreciating like. Trevor Lawrence put out a great statement. Right like people can see that, and do you know that that gets them up they they think about that eight man. y'All don't understand the dynamics of race on college football teams. y'All don't really get like I. Think all of you have not all, but a lot of you have this impression in line with that Patrick mahomes statement about how locker rooms the place where everybody is welcome in all these other things don't matter, and that is flat out books and I feel like he knows that that case. Locker rooms are crazy. Segregate right. Right and the reason they're crazy. Segregated is is just enough. Y dudes on the team that dues don't have to hang out when nobody else. I think you gotta get this also in baseball, but it's really Languid sorta thing which you reach a place where now there enough Latin dues that the Latin dues. Can All speak Spanish with each other they decide. You know and don't have to like necessarily go to this other player. He's GonNa be football. Teams are crazy, segregated and white dunes. Different worlds than the black dudes are typically coming from on these teams and one thing a lot of y'all don't realize is it's coaches out here and racially crazy to these kids all over America right like you think that this football team the coaches like dad and loves everybody now coaches like the boss and just like at every other office like there's some charming examples that you'll find but. These kids know where their coaches stand on a lot of issues, and they know where their coaches staying on a lot of issues, because those coaches are telling them where they stand on those issues so right before we got started day came across three former Pitt football players got on the tweets now granted visa. Guys who are no longer on the team won transferred. One was dismissed in one was a mutual parting of ways right so I wanNA give you that context one guy gets on and talks about how Patton are doozy to go. Jet Pittsburgh used to call opponents thugs. City called their own teammates. If. They were wearing a hood underneath their travel jumpsuit safe. They wore their baseball caps backwards. They recall thugs and his point was just as you not out here, calling us slurs meaning that this stuff doesn't happen that first name is allies, Reynolds Dairy, and St Re tweets that in says he's not lying says it's very toxic, and then the third do just Morgan, says remember. When he told me to cut my dreads, then said it was pitiful when he didn't see me with a haircut the next day. These things happen in college. Football programs a lot. Okay, they happen a lot. In these kids a stupid. They know who the people are that they deal with. That's why I asked these questions about college. Football coaches in their statements with the say right now because I'm like I'm telling you man you'll players want to hear from you? There's some players who want to hear from you because they're angry. Someplace that want to hear from you because they believe that you are what you said you would be. Like they believe in the most idealistic notion of what the coaches like. There's some guys that are like that. They're looking for the guidance. They are looking for that leader like I. Don't Know How many of these college football players have like professors that are their mentors, your most of us who were really interesting professor. You can go back and talk to be happy to see you out of these guys get to spend that kind of time in. In that way, right? They got a football coach like these the people who have helped get them in their lives, and so every like Oh. These kids are GonNa want to hear from you of in what you have to say about this. And by the way their parents are going to want to hear from you and hear what you have to say about these matters and I think it becomes doubly important in the time of this virus. A I'm not sure. How many parents are just GONNA be readily. Sit in. A key is to go. Play football for these people under these circumstances. I'm just not I personally have had a place right? It's not assume everybody's GONNA show up, but all of that you guys. These kids risk their lives, and you ain't got nothing to say about the danger there. They're in or that. They feel outside of this now. We go need this for me. Trevor Lawrence put out his statement. I was like ours where you're at Debo. I'm I thought it was noteworthy and I think I'm correct in saying this that it was no worthy that the twenty year old has something to save before the world before the head coach on one level that is a testament to Trevor Lawrence and his maturity, and it makes me very curious to know more about him right because I think for him is dangerous because I'm not trying. Trying to get white people more credit for anything that I would give black people in the same place except I have to also be honest and recognized that there is a measure of bravery that comes from somebody in his position in his place, being willing to say the things that he had to say even if they weren't the most revolutionary things in the world NFL quarterbacks wouldn't even. Even really doing that much black and white by the way he stood, but dabbles the one that makes seven million dollars. A year dabbles the one that's supposed to be the leader men like so I'm like where where are you on this? Where are you standing on this matter? Keep in mind with the cabinet. Thing happened. Dabbagh was the one that said that if you don't like you. You move out to country now. He walked that back a little bit when you may statements yesterday, but it was fair to wonder. What do you think right now? What can you see what's happening? Could you just then again just be like well if you don't like it, you need to lead a country right like, could you? Could you actually do these things and so daboh depress availability. Being in front of people, and actually talking it out I think that that is what a leader would do under these circumstances, even if I don't agree with the way he. Approached it and I did not agree with the way that he owes Melia. It and day we got the club. We were talking about earlier. Because I want people to hear this and I want to explain why I'm not here for Dabble doing what I know as I. Approach everything from from a perspective of fate. Is that that were? There are people there? There's going to be hate. There's GonNa be racism and greed jealousy crime so on. because we live in a simple fallen world and We've had so much bad news. everywhere you turn. There's there's bad movies, but. Really today I just wanted to take a moment and and offer some good news and for me. The good news is that we have Lord loves us all, and it has conquered already, and we all have a choice as to how we think. We love how we respond. And how we forgive and what I will say before I play this next bite. Is that email? Noise was not me. It was on the damn conference call. Don't blame the producer here the second cut. There's no question that these are challenging times, but what I've learned is were. There is no challenge. There is no change and we have to all accept the challenge and all help to bring about positive change and growth. Like what does that mean you and see? The forgiveness part. All right I did allow tweet storm about this yesterday. I think to understand that, but one thing you have to understand is for him. Not by the way unlike Martin Luther King Hits, fate is not simply his belief structure, but it is the basis of like his worldview. His philosophy like think about king. King and everything he writes. It's a philosophy. It hearkens to his faith in his religion and everything else, but in the end it is a philosophy is so for daboh. What he gives you every time he talks about anything is his philosophy. Right like this is how he sees every problem. He doesn't really adapted that much except he kind of adapts it somewhat right like one thing about here, talk about the importance of forgiveness and everything else. This is something to me. That was always very lush of about who Davos when he was in ways. Good in bed. That first time they ran the national championship game. Dion Cain had been suspended for the national semi final because he failed a drug tests I'm presuming forbear wall, but he failed a drug test. He missed the national semi-final as was required by rule, but he could be brought back after that right. So, Clemson won the national semi-final. Dabbles it hill. No, he's still not play in the next. Guy He's not. On one level. I respected him. Because that's the dumbest thing in the world that he possibly could have done and i. say that was dumb because you 'cause you eighty customer national championship, I don't know why more people don't talk about this. It might have cost them a national championship. That was a close game. It might have cost them a national championship that he chose to make that decision, but even with a chance to profit on the other side. He said No. This is how I see. These my rules. He's not gonNA play. I respect it. Just, because he did it to the detriment self like he means what he says on some level on another level. Though I hear that and I'm like so, where was your forgiveness in that case? Is that what I'm saying. Is What it feels like to me. It feels like to me right now. People are looking at why folks like what Y'all do and dabbles looking back leg. We're all centers. But that will be talking about right now, right? We talking about you and yours and it is about you and yours and you acknowledged in. You understand that it's about you and yours, and so we're looking at you like okay. Yeah, so we all need to forgive each other for all this stuff. But what we talk about right now, right? Forget your broad worldview. Bring it specifically right now it. You think that this is about the need to forgive and I do believe in the nobility of forgiveness I. Honestly do right I think all of us wish that we were more capable of forgiving. I, think all of us would be happier. We've all got somebody that we all, but most of us I think have somebody that we struggle to forgive and that we will be happier if we just let that pain and we could just let that anger. Go I think we have a lot of us. who were that way? Way Right and I think that for a lot of black people. For example they would be happier if they could forgive why it racism that has rained down upon us I. Think they would be happier now about it. But what in the hell? A white people mad at us for right like if you're if you're dabble you like we all send us. We all need to forgive each other. What the HELL WHY PEOPLE NEED! Forgive me before right, and that's the problem with Daboh. Is that Dabble won't stand in the truth of Reality Dabble everywhere you go. You have people you got to have Daddy. Go to have racism. On this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you, but these the people that we talked about right now. Right I. DO believe that a lot of white people fundamentally believe that the only reason that the races of comes down on black people is because white people. The ones are in charge. They believe that we would have done everything the exact same way, and that's a lot of ways they have. The justify with treatment is right. It's just a matter who's shoes all in all of this stuff. But Davos an example of a man who means well, but his good intentions. CanNot match reality right because his good intentions, he is not able to adapt and recognize the limitations of his philosophy, unless it's time to lean on cain about fail the drug tests now some of you, Clinton fans have been on this and they wanNA know. Why are you talking so much about Davos like as they look at me, wise Dabbo the guy that you talk about so much dies because in thirty or forty years were still going to be talking about Davos winning. Like. This! Is You guys that are fans of him? Don't want me to talk about him. Like this need to acknowledge something that you probably say all the time when I'm not around, which is, he has built a powerhouse. He has built a Juggernaut at a time. We're building powerhouses in juggernauts where there were not jugs before it's borderline impossible. He has done a historically good coaching job. The way that people talk about guys not bear Bryant like. Maybe that was going a little bit too far, but. This has went to national championship. He's been all those national championship games everything else. He is a legend among us. He is to me right now. The most effective college football coach in America he matters. And I give Clemson as a program all the credit in the world for what they've done, but part of that credit is. This is the scrutiny that you receive when you put yourself out front the way this Weenie has, and he deserves to have his word scrutinize, and at this time where I believe that his players need him if he is what he claims to be, his players need him to stand at some level of solidarity with them. He can't stand with them on the basis of being centers. That's not GonNa do it. You need to stand with them on the basis of them, being people and respect how their humanity is disrespected. That's the place for Daboh and if he's as good a coach as Clemson fans, say the he can handle here from me. You know you can't be on top of all the news and information of the day. No need for the social media feeds. We gotcha now. If, you haven't heard all right but money. This first story comes from agriculture. This is David pit with associated. Press into Moines Iowa food prices have been fluctuating since March when the coronavirus pandemic the end to sink in for US consumers and drove panic, buying for certain types of food, including eggs, meat, and some shell staples like potatoes and onions. Some grocery price jumps were because people were stocking up when the coronavirus I. I arrived, but even as some prices have dropped the cost of produce, such a potatoes, onions, carrots has remained above last year's prices. The Labor Department has issued a report that indicates food prices jumped two point six percent in April the largest monthly increase in forty six years prices for meats, poultry fish eggs increase the most rising four point. Three percent egg prices reached an all time record of more than three dollars. Dollars a dozen wholesale in late March, but they have since fallen to less than a dollar a dozen. The situation has been worse for meat prices largely because of illnesses among slaughterhouse workers, the outbreaks struck pork processing plants, the hardest, but beef and chicken processors, also some impact as thousands of workers tested positive for the virus. Economists say the situation with meat packing plants has improved somewhat, but they're still not operating in one. One hundred percent capacity that likely means me prices and availability could continue to be volatile throughout the summer for other items like fresh produce. It's possible prices could remain a bit higher, too. Because companies, the process and packaged foods are paying for protective equipment for workers and distancing measures could slow down. Work in these costs may have to be passed on to consumers. Hey, man, it's all fun games. Still people can't eat. Like I wasn't justified it when they were like Oh. These people have Kobe and they keep making a work in them chicken plants. I'm like that's really messed up, but I'm here to tell you. He was going to sort. It ain't like no chicken for nobody like well. You got a line up to get the last chicken breasts. Though let me a wing is all will go to it's this whole food economy here where you have somebody working on one end, and you have the other people on the other end consuming that product. Yes, you, when that food stops, come and people are freaking out. Or whatever it is, I can't eat like it's all. What would people get dramatic about their need for money? What is it comes down to I gotTA feed my family. My son can't eat those plaques like. That keep an eye on food. Man Hip Yada game here. Or the second story comes from health. Hi I'm swatting. Gupta and I'm a freelance reporter with C. N. N. in new. Delhi India last week in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh. A gang of monkey snatched blood samples collected from suspected coronavirus patients. The incident occurred when a lab assistant walking with a covid nineteen facility in a hospital in the city of Mirror was getting blood samples do for testing according to Dr Touch Leon. The Medical Superintendent At Large with Ryan Memorial Medical College Hospital the monkees attack the lab assistant and stole the Sampler box which held three samples the head of the. The hospital it got in a statement, said that the samples were not swaps collected from Covid, nineteen patients, but blood samples being sent out for regular tests. The monkees climb the trees with the samples and threw them after chewing through the Packard's hospital, authorities immediately sanitize the entire area, and no one came in contact with the tainted samples and inquiry has been ordered to investigate possible mishandling of the set samples. India has reported a shop surge in the number of corona virus cases across the country. More than one hundred ninety thousand cases have been confirmed with over five thousand deaths by the way. We forget that it's a billion people in India. You don't like the way we think about China. We just don't talk about India I mean it's not the same level of power bacilli like sometimes we forget big thing over there on knows this. I don't mean to make light. It was going on in east streets, but they found us on black person. Hey, runoff with the Cova samples they'd be knocking on. The door at and all of us be able to stay right now until they got in blood samples back, right. They need to be over there in India. Like these ain't peephole right? Ain't no right every muggy every muggy. We gotTa Jack Em all up until they tell us who did this. We cannot have monkeys out here. Still in Kobe's apples gave you realize how much back in that science fiction movie The monkees got a hold of the Kobe. There's two things there one. It's a public health crisis. They're throwing wake potentially infected blood samples in releasing that all into right public space. That's one number two. What's the analogy of the monkees there? And that's what I'm saying. They maybe I can monkeys. Autumn monkeys up against the wall. Everybody right? Who got the samples? Who did it? We're GONNA get all these monkeys is going to have to know. It ain't going to be like that. I also just realize the overlap. Connotation a monkey. I mean primates like animals. If you'd be right did that that could have got it. A different now is like I. Is Up against all I my. As. Like what's that I'm talking about? Oh A. It is highly unfortunate by the way again you know what I feel like. We have just illustrated. Right here in this moment. How many people lie about not understanding like the racism that exists right, 'cause you hear me, say all you Mug is up against the wall, and you could be like. Oh, I could hear that big scenario without there being actual monkeys, everybody heard it. It was like Oh. That's something that the police might actually say. And, that's the point. Wow, that was profile. Our this next one comes from health as well. Hello other Murphy Emma reporter at the New York Times. And I wrote about the question of whether people need to wear masks while running and biking. There's been a lot of confusion and conflict about this especially in cities where we don't have the luxury of going on some meandering bike ride on a country road. People are angry. People are scared people. People are leaving creative and kind of issues signs, telling people to wear masks. People are yelling at each other I talked to a seventy three year old woman in New York City who has taken to screaming regularly as she gets in her minivan and some Bronner biker whizzes by her without a mask, she will yell at them. Tell them where a mask and she feels scared and she feels like it's her responsibility, not just to herself, but. But to her community when I was asked to look into this further, and try and get to the bottom of what people should do, and what people are need to do. I've kind of kind of interesting because I had just come back from about a month in Hong. Kong Hong Kong is the city that is often put up as the model of mass choir, everyone whereas masks in the spores on the streets when I got there people. People Uber Not yet wearing masks in new. York City and walking through the streets there and just seeing everyone wearing masks was due to me and yet when people go running or when people are exercising in the park, they typically don't wear masks, and it's not a conflict. It's just kind of understood that the way that different runners put it to me. No one thinks it's a big deal. Everyone understands you don't wear a mask when. When you're running. So, what is this conflict about here? Is there something to it? Do we need to be wearing masks? We'll all were running. And while biking there is no scientific consensus around this, which is a little bit frustrating. This is primarily because so little. Relevant research has actually been completed. The novel coronavirus is novel and we don't understand that much, but what researchers do agree on. Is that masks in general? Slow the spread of the? The virus they also agree it's safest to avoid exercising with anyone who is not in your immediate household or bubble, and also to keep your distance from people that said they all agree that the chance of being infected outside is very low, especially compared to inside, and not the risks of infecting or being infected by a person by just running or biking pass them very quickly are very low if a person was to get infected by. By a massless person or a masked person, if there was any kind of transmission outside, they tend to agree that it would probably be by between two people who were talking to each other, not just by somebody, zooming past and other person one thing that some people point to is there was a study of more than seven thousand cases in China in just one of those cases was connected to outdoor transmission, so in general the thinking is. Is Exercising outdoors is safer than exercising indoors especially if you're around other people all right so I was really hoping that she would give a definitive answer about this, just because I will admit, I'm out riding my bike with a mask. All it is inconvenient hill. I am of the mind that I need to be wearing my mask out. When I'm going out for a little jog in the morning or the afternoon. However I will say. And I. Don't think my wife is going to be listening to this podcast today. She is of the mind that she wants to wear the mask down the elevator. I block or two, and then once we get on our loop. She takes mask off. You know I don't feel comfortable breathing with the mask on as I'm running type of thing so hearing this. If you haven't heard, stay didn't do me any favors. You Man I say I get onto bike ride around central park and I. It's puffing and buffet trying to do that through some cloth. Right like I ain't got no wide repertoire yet you don't. Say I couldn't but just. The chances are very low good enough for me. Nope, sorry, sorry I'm doing whatever the hell. I can't. That'd be out there with Saran. Wrap it on my face if I could just poke holes, minoza breathe and it was still safe. Her. For. The Hey, this is Bomani. You've reached the price. Tom voicemail! Say whatever you want. Get creative with it, but this is your place to talk back to the show top back as You watched lance part two I did, and that inspired you to call for voicemails of the wildest lie that you've told or the wildest Says inhaled all of us. Who yes, yes, so. We got a bunch of interesting ones. Are I The woman didn't leave her name or where she was from but I thought it was funny. What am I x best friends, still forty dollars right out my wallet, and it's crazy. 'cause at the back of two thousand eleven and I thought it was over it and when I saw your too damn I got over it because they swears that he didn't have. Have the money out of my pockets when I knew everyone of their own wouldn't do that. The funny part is that seconds after I discovered that it was also candidate buying everyone food, and I had to be held back from basically prejudice guy in the face. So this is the reason why the Lance Armstrong after victory on ESPN because I said now I'm not standing up for this guy where we all know. He's a Damn Liar. Doesn't point of US wasting? Everybody, food asked go. Wow, yeah, what they? If you found some money on the ground ad, but I still for your people, you gotta go in there stuff to do it like at no point or you like being real crack light in stealing from somebody who's going to notice that the money's not there. Yes, but as we are. This next one comes from Dave in rural Illinois. I gotta say that guy was the habitual liar. I mean when Charlie Murphy came out with his. True Hollywood stories and saying that the first person that came to my mind was my childhood friend. Backtrack me you the same as we understand the importance of somebody getting trouble graphic sixteen. When we were younger I came out for the whole summer, he would say yeah. I got trouble graphics. Sixteen office got nintendo Genesis. We were like worse got all gassed up every time. He goes to his house. Mommy put away his brand new the whole son every time he goes to his house Keith, put. Away then finally when schools starts back up, he's like Hey, guys, I've got to regret sixteen. Full. Why are you lying to us? We like twelve years old and we we trying to get people. Graphics on playing are taking trying to get. Up there and you overhear line so I don't know if you understand the importance that both or Sixteen compared to only the Nintendo but when you lie was like that back then we will saw t why you gotTa Lie, and to This Day thirty years later I don't know why we still talk to them, but we still do so. Let me tell you a story about two thousand five two thousand five hours graduate student at USC. and WHO's coming up all? Do you see a cameron of the game right? At home, trying to figure out how we get in to get, there are and so basically we were going to try to figure out how we to figure out how to camp out or something like that I had to get somebody to camp out, or whatever like we? We were cooking up a plan to make it hat, right. Okay but the one home he was like Nah. We got some dudes over there. That's all line. They pledging will get them to camp out if they get US tickets so I'm here. There's an thinking this plan. Don't sound good because we night in Frat. Right like we go be way down the line on the ticket requests, but he swears that he got the line on the tickets. So anti-gay is coming up. We keep asking so chicks sup with the tickets, and it would always be some different story. I can't remember which I call it home. He's that telecast, but remember like it will be. It will be the first thing that's like okay. Yeah, well I found out that you know they tickets. They were getting the tickets. Then we found out will. We'll see if it's enough tickets. Right. And then as we get closer to the game, man says I, we got the tickets, but my uncle. He is security guard over there. He'll hold the door OBE force. Nine of the game comes we all at my career, and I just can't help I. Look at, do those because he said he s right up what he said he had tickets for himself. But he was checking about. US Ninety two gang he at my house and I couldn't help, but it we like. That, we had tickets. I gave him a pair of bursary. Nobody pairs come to town. This is not the first time ever detail that story, and again it gets better with age, but the part that I remember thinking about it when you originally told it, and which is. Brought in my head just now. Getting lead in by security. Is Not an ideal scenario. If you're trying to watch a game and the reason I say this in this I understand. My privilege is working at ESPN. This is amazing opportunity. I'm not dismissive of that at all, so a couple of years ago, before a was working on this show with you Bo. I worked for steak, so I went to Cleveland for the NBA finals and I was like. Oh, it would be dope. If I got to go to the game never been to NBA playoff game never been to a finals game huge NBA Guy. Like. Yeah, we'll get you. A credential got me credential I was like Oh. This is legit NBA Finals Youth NBA Finals here. I come baby, so I got my credential. I'm walking over to the arena. Tons of people out. I was hyped by myself right. Walking or not I'll get inside. Get through the gate with my little pass. All that sort of stuff only to realize I didn't have anywhere to sit, so it was kind of like a keep it, movin. Type Situations. Like you can't stand there. You can't stand there. Just keeping moving mark will. Where do I go? Where do I go now? Badger now badging that at Cameron Indoor Stadium Yeah. They're on a press. Pass your just there. You barely have a seat when you're there. Yeah, anywhere you go in an arena. There's a security guard. Go, anywhere I could watch a game so. Wanted to actually watch I was in like the throngs of the arena in the corner where all the cheerleaders come out and stuff NBA finals. cavs warriors I'm like trying to create my net to watch the game and I couldn't watch the game and I. was like well guessing to go back to the hotel and watch the game on TV because I can't watch. Yup, long way of saying getting lead in without a ticket is not a good situation. Do not want that in. You can tell your man was lying souleye last one. This is a legit one concern Andrew Brooklyn. I went to the University of Nebraska and freshman year. There was a guy on our floor. Who really wanted to make? It seem like he was on the baseball team and he went very far with this lies. He did not play any sports. I don't believe, but he started to dress exactly the way that the baseball team was dressing, he would go to the school store and buy the same apparel that they would have even got the same backpack, which I don't know how any regular students were able to get 'cause student back way for able to get the official Adidas backpack that they were all given, and he even made the tag. Student athletes had that had their name and everything on it, and it got so ridiculous. That would have other people come up to us. Mainly some of the you know. Young ladies that we're hanging out with at the time. That would say hey. Is that this guy on the baseball team? And we were kind of joking thought it was funny at first, but then it just got really insane. I really wish I would have kept up with this guy because I know it did. Come crashing down with him, but as far as I know, he's out there somewhere. Probably making another lie I'll just tell you now before the Internet the I'm on the insert team here lie was. was much easier to pull off and people were much more success with it like I'm on the football team that eight hard to pull off before the Internet. How do you verify how to do over there yet? But there's a difference between like waiting in line at like the restaurant waiting in line at the club in a college town being like Yo among the football team. Let me five, but if you try to lie to a girl to get to next week is a much easier light tailback. From what we're gathering, it sounds like dude was walking around campus that lie. You didn't have to work that hard to sell that line the AIDS. I know people used to play football team. There's a difference, too between the like I'm on the football team type allied to like you know in high school. When I was on the basketball team or you know in high school when I was on the football team has scored one hundred points in a game. The toll tail to try and make your friends think you're cool. Those are two different situations with. Number three where this guy's crazy like he's, he's a something on a whole. `nother level like he is made himself on the baseball team. Like that's that's wow. Hey. I guess we all gotTa Try. Entering all over the place podcast Ladies Gentlemen. They supposed to join us here on the right time. Use a couple of times a week. We're may best saying. How does everything behind the scenes? Thank you, sir, also thank you joy. If you haven't heard contributed thanks, today pitted AP check I this story Oh food, shortage and pricing being up at a p news dot com. com thanks to Swat you. Gupta a freelancer in New Delhi's wrote a piece for see in and check up about monkey stealing blood samples Kobe nineteen. If as they had their Murphy of the New York Times, she got her story about whether or not. Runners need to wear masks at new. York Times Dot Com. Rivers described the right top raiders. 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SUBS AND GETTER DAD GIFTS

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A lot of people asking who was that little rejoin your plan before six o'clock angel that was pretty cool. was that a cover of a allman brothers song? man I thought it was I. Don't think allman brothers is called. Can't you see see and it's Blackstone Cherry? That did the cover. There was a couple of the brands that recently hold on on on. I look. I could be totally wrong. I thought Marshall Tucker Always Marshall Tucker. That make sense okay. Yeah, I was. Like Southern Rock, you know yeah, yeah, but Hey so welcome. Welcome Wednesday halfway through the wing. That's good. Is Little Hump Day. And I swear to God I. Don't know what you guys did yesterday, but the weather was so perfect to in because it was so perfect, I gotta get out of the House you know we. We've been stuck here for a while. Not Having a whole lot to do had to go to my mom's and pick some stuff for her, which made me feel very manly because I had the tools to do. Like her. Her tires were. She's got a new. Buick right the Buick. We'll tell our if the air on our tires are a little bit low, so it was like it, you know. Instead of thirty two like thirty or something pressure, so I had my little. Thing I. let you borrow Sh-. Pressure A it is the. Air Pump air pumps took that over. I felt like a romance. Right I got my I got the right equipment to puppeteers for then she needed a rock. The flap in her toilet had broken. Okay, so a Lotta easy stuff. You could change that right, yeah! You could do that right. But. My mom was oppressed auto. Tellers, really really easy mom, but you gotta make it real hard and lift like. This right the chain link all that stuff. For that right like you just slopping out the kit right. Mom was impressed, so let me ask you. This in regards to that little set that you have that checks the tire pressure and I mean that's a popular gift at this time of year. Is that the equivalent of win? Guys not knowing what to get, and you get the toaster for your wife. I don't think so I. Think, air pressure gates were father's Day. Gift God. I'd be thrilled to get I. Mean I have one now, but if I before I had one, someone gave me the Ryobi. One with a battery operated and. I think that's a pretty cool, maybe father's Day I. Guess Maybe I'm wrong on that then. Game stuff. For. This time of year and last year we were talking about it and I. Put my foot down. Quick Given for your groomsmen. Quick getting the little pint. Think the alcoholic. As, gifts for your groomsmen. That's I've a lot of lasts with the all grave with my name. Never used them. One time and then so. TERRIBLE PERSON WHEN I! See what you're saying you're saying given like giving a toaster to a woman is the same as given air pressure thing to do. Because it's for work. It's not for pleasure. or It seems like it comes off. I didn't know what to gidget. Go Dad. There's a tire pressure gauge I think you'd like any got that. Cool Ryobi Green on, and you'll be distracted. How is just a tire pressure gauge? Question! Yeah, I know that was pretty cool and everything was just yeah. I noticed like I. Don't know if you guys have noticed lately. In the last couple of days, obviously with the holiday right around the corner father's Day just the online ads and everything of the gifts that they're recommending for father's Day, and I'm just like me. We do get ripped off Ross you're right. We kinda get a lot of guys deserve to be forgotten though there's a lot of dads out there the. DADS as they should be remembered, but for the good ones. They do deserve a little bit of love Tire pressure thing got his mom was very impressed, and then, and then she started talking to me about possibly moving, which is crazy because I like her. Conversation. Just move into a different house has been there for. Years and years and years and years and years and years. You grew up. Yes. Like I've been in that. House since I was two. So they've. They've been there a long time. Things Reminder Yeah. Everything's reminder and so. So. Yes, that's a weird conversation I. had with your mom. You know you know moving moving. Moving and in general so anyway to release myself the stress I figured the only thing that can help. That would be villa. Cheese steak, right? So. That make sense I'm stressed out. You know what I. Am Thinking about this thinking about Oh my God if I get a move on my mom, stuff and I. Take so I went to one of our old sponsors. The spot us Last spot a sub. It's been a minute man I'm. And bummer about it. They're right there. They're saying close right there. I go now. They had to change everything like everyone else. Four Kovin for for virus, or whatever so they've got like as soon as you walk in like a glass setup, so you pay through the glass and there was a bunch of Italian news a sitting around talking talking mess, which was customers or Customers hang out there, right? Spot is and and it was funny. Episode of Sopranos. But the. Older Italian just hang out there and. Some suburbs having some coffee hanging out with the eating I. Wish I could hung with them. Yeah, no, some of them were. They would just kind of hanging in like Oh. Man I want you to go pull up a chair. One of these guys you. Guys Cool Right. Right right right big pussy, so then so so then we decide, because of the weather was so absolutely perfect, because it felt like it was eighty seven or something and say we gas. Is what made. Grabbed the dogs and we went to Apopka. I think there's three altogether. And these huge dog parks right, so you can take your dog in this big area. That's all fence off to. The dogs can run downtown A. Yeah that's Doug Oh. It's super high speakeasy. It's super. Miss Mercer you already moved out. You're not even a part of this municipal Berryman now. Here's here's the thing. I was spoiled because the first dog park ever went to was the winter park, dog park. And West. because. There's a there's a there's a lake there too late. Then the dogs get all messy and money. And then you have your car. Wash them down on the way he's wet and stinky and. I was sad with the popcorn. Because it is just three fields, it's huge huge grasp field for my two dogs and thank God. There was nobody there. Okay there. There's a two fields that are fully grasp if there's you know. Nothing no, there's trees. Tree. I sat under a tree. So there's one on one life for the dog park. Grew tree. Yeah, he was there yesterday. There are several trees on the property. Here's the thing I went on the one side where it was supposed to be smaller. Because the other one had some other big dogs. My dogs get into a fight, and so we went into the side and I i. don't know what it is. The enjoyment of sitting and watching those dogs running back and forth, and you can say it's. It looks like they were smiling. It looked at me like they were smiling and laughing. Because they got to run back and forth really fast, and you know after about fifteen minutes there. Come sit by okay. I'm. But that's that's enjoyable. The dogs watch them run, and and and I thought about running a little bit. Catch up with you guys. After Momma spot is sub. Guys make me tired. Just watching you, but I like a good dog park man. Yeah, now that it's. It's a ton of fun, but like you're right. You're right that dog. That dog park is separated into two spots. He got big dogs in small dogs. My dog is neither well they're. Putting in there's a third field, but it's usually the third fields usually locked up for whatever reason well, that's the exclusive. Cemetery right next to it and I swear I want to take the dogs at the cemetery, but it says don't do it. That! I guess really bad place. Tha Dog December. Part two is they're squirrels that live in that park. Yeah, and it's just like they're living life on the edge there like the X. Game of squirrels, because like if I was a squirrel, I would definitely not set up where everything's during to murder me I thought the same thing. You're thrill seeking squirrels that live here on purpose to see if they the dogs can outrun adrenaline. Chaudhry Yeah I. Totally One hundred and the dogs are just run and. They looked so damn happy. So surprised. Did you got the people make fun of but. Park is nice, need more trees, and then we get stuff like splash pads, all of a sudden and all kinds of stuff. Oh, wait upgrade I. Leave Apopka Debbie Downer texted. It's not a good idea to your dogs with Goldberg. Virus going around all US dogs will be fine, and it was just my dogs and being Mary Ellen Mark Goodness. People. They. Remember Debbie Downer for Saturday. Night live. We got. We do get them on our texting services all the time. All the time I'm talking about a happy story about taking a dog. The Dog Park and they were thrilled and Debbie Downer. Texan. Dogs Bark. Let them. Play with other dogs, and there were no other dogs. My dogs run around the field, having a damn blast and and it was A. it was a lot of fun just sitting there watching them. Made me laugh. That's funny because I saw you gearing up. It looked like you were going to go work out as I was leaving. Because you put on your tennis shoes. Rose is probably GONNA. Go to crunch fitness. Do a little bit of workout. Nope, yes on a bench up. I need to go to court you. But. You Know I. Should I spend time with my with my wife and my dogs and have them smile or go workout? Spend time with dogs. I can do that with anything. Really having a sub and and months that. Saw a movie. That's got a really good premise I want to ask you guys out. And see what you would do when we come back, don't go anywhere. You're listening to the Macho. Sure you could call your family, but then they'll start calling you all the time. 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If she's out there, listening probably probably sleeping I, would I would also be asleep right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too me, too. I just get up now. No matter what sucks. Yeah. There's no sleeping in in my world anymore you're you're battling homelessness. You're battling buying a place your bet, make sure keep your girl. You got a lot of battles going on a my stress level was high before. Now it's just through the roof and keeping me up at night, because the thought of a home purchase, and having like all that real responsibility and Okay so when they tell you like. This is your mortgage and this is your rent. You're like Oh. That's definitely a doable number. Yeah, but then because we're not putting twenty percent down, there's private mortgage insurance. House insurance at South. By the time it's done. It's like can't afford this. Once again. One of these things I've been trying to teach you trying to teach you how to dumb it down man. Don't think about it too much. It's part of life you. What are they GONNA? Do you know you take my home and ruined my credit? You know it happens. then. I just work hard, and they only do that for my student loan. Do Your best to pay you know. Pay Your mortgage every month and and you'll end up doing the kettle corn, a kingdom your kingdom. A completely been destroyed by virus. You're a radio superstar. Good contract negotiator. Ended up comic. Had A GIG. Six months. Well, you know there's there's okay so it might force you to think of other streams of income which is pioneer now. You got time right after the show. You know you don't have to sit around in your truck bed pool. You could, you could go deliver pizzas or What else can you do know? There's like there's a version of it where I'm like I guess I could do Uber Right now you can do. Pick people up in their like. Aren't you Ryan from the radio. Why are you picking me up in a number? That's my where a mask. You waiting. For their safety, they don't know what you write and Look Scotty York make a lot of money doing that. Don't how it's doing now because there's not as many. `Boring also Oh, yeah. So what? More they're hiring. What they're needing is people that work warehouses, and they also need people that do ubereats. That way I don't have to have people in my car and I had to clean. To clean your car if you like. What is this stain on your roof? That's a beer that exploded a year ago. Yeah, that's what I want my food and your dirty ass car delivered to my house. You probably should clean UCAR to. If you're gonNA Yubari currently, it's my house, so. True and then you go today, and and you know what we're. GonNa ask her today, but you brought up a very good question to yesterday. Angel the gas. What do you think Savannah is going to say because I think I know, but we'll find out and Ryan. You know when when the everything was off over here. You know no wicked here. We're on Youtube and the show is over and He's like hey. I was one thing if we we live with. Like she doesn't drink. Will I be with me, and my girl be allowed to drink in the house and I, and I said well okay well. She doesn't drink, but I think she's so far Pascet, that being around people that drink i. don't think bothers her, so I think she's GonNa say she doesn't care, but I don't know. What do you think Angel it's? That's yeah. That's a good one main. I don't I'm trying to think of events that we've done in the past and it doesn't seem to faze her and I think she said as much When we when the topic has been broached so I don't I don't think it's going to. I don't think I don't think it's going to be an issue. I don't think so either I think she'll be fine with it. Now, listen. Here's a question. Though since you know, she doesn't drink out of the via polite, should you not even ask the question and just not bringing into the house? And just you? You and your girl go dry for about three months. Might be a good thing for you I. Know, Yeah, do it. Do Sober summer. SOBER SAVANNAH'S To us over at Savannah's buddy when you're homeless and you have nowhere to live, all you want to do is grab a beer. Just just kill the voice in your head. That says well. You really messed up here, buddy. Drinking drinking too much semantics, not home. She got those killer big killer lizards there might get drunk enough to go peddle lizard or something that not maybe not pet, but definitely knock over a cage. Don't do that and then yeah. So Angel may be out of out of politeness, which that's word. Polite? Should he just not even drink at Savannah's house if she's doing him? The favor of you can live here for free. Maybe he should not even have her. Yeah. I was just thinking about that. It's like dude. You're only planning on being there just a few weeks, I. Go out and be social and everything. It just don't bring anything back to the House I think they. Probably would be the thing to do right. They enjoy they enjoy a little drinking. I don't even know what he's thinking about because. Look the the places that made the best gallon Margaritas to go. He no longer lives anywhere near there and where he lives now there's nobody. Does it like that? So all all your options of doing the kind of social drink? They used to do art eliminated. All you got dive bars orbit. He's thinking about the go. Pick up a twenty four pack and bring it home to Savannah's. where she she doesn't drink anymore, so maybe that's not proper. In the fridge, you know yes, only one fridge now. Here's what I think, I think angels right I, think she? She wasn't like a crazy alcoholic when she did drink like what she was like for drinks all the time. It's what she did. She would get a little crazy, so she just stopped altogether so i. don't think seen. Alcohol makes her want to have it at all I. Don't think he's going to be an issue at all, but the question is out of being polite. Would you even ask? Yet. Being I should ask okay because I. I don't WanNa just roll up with like a tallboy like sitting on the cavs. Top boys away you don't. Lose. You want to go. During Whatever. Beer I. Don't think it's going to be an issue I really really don't I. Really Don't love. Find out today. I T- Texas. If you think Ryan should even ask and he's GonNa live with Savannah for free for about two months, should he even ask about alcohol in the house, or if he just go ahead and say listen I'm not GonNa do it because at a respect for you I'm ago. Here's the move though. You're getting a room. From all accounts, it looks like you might begin your own side of the house. Ryan. About a little mini Fridge Oh. Yeah, Oh, that's in your. Call it a mini fridge on your side of the House and then you could sneak drink. It's van. Nobody will tell her many costs that much the problem. The problem is that she said the power goes out on their side of the house. Right. You're you're listening to the monster the morning. I were live on our Youtube Channel Eight's Robert Boss Youtube. You can check it out. Right holds chat with people during the breaks, and Yeah rollins along with Angel and Ryan homes here today will be on a little bit. We got jeff coffin coughing up a little bit later on the Nerdy News and also legal questions that you have a legal question him, you can You can ask them okay, so I'm GonNa find out what you guys did but I before i. I forget about it I'm going to tell you the premise of this movie and see what you would do. Okay now. I Love Finding a good stupid movie like like it's like a movie. You know expectations of it and it turns out. Hey, this was actually pretty good. You know it's not it's not academy award winning. It's not you know it's one of those free on prime you know. That's that's what makes when I'm asking Mary Ellen. How you watch this one show. I always say. Is it free? Free if it's free, then she's in. If we got to pay four bucks for. She always has really kind of look to make sure 'cause she's very frugal is good because I'm not You know I'm just Willy Nilly. Click Click Click whatever that was fifty dollars got to bring you in a little bit. She's got to rein me in. Yeah, so I. Click on this one and. It looks pretty good scary movie. WHO's in it? We don't know anybody in it. There's nobody in it that is I think. I don't think anyone famous, but it looks good. What do you think healthcare? Is it free? Yes, it's free. Okay fine, so we after I did all the stuff I did yesterday we sat down and like four. We're GonNa Watch a movie. And it's called. Wish upon okay now. I don't think blow anything because it's a movie from like three years ago and And If. You're sensitive that kind of stuff and you think you're gonNA. Watch a really bad hard movie. Then you can close. Your ears are really sensitive to it, and I won't give away the ending or anything, but here's the premise of this movie called wish upon, and it's free now on prime. If you have you know Amazon prime. But nobody. Famous right. So it's okay, this girl and her dad. Is Dumpster diver right. Dad's a dumpster diver. Okay, and she's embarrassed. 'cause DAD's diving in the dumpster and getting all kinds of stuff in our friends in high school could see it all the time and they call. You got. Dumpster Daddy Messing with the right. Daddy's my porn. And so dumpster daddy finds this Chinese wishing box right I never heard of him before, but I guess China. They got these wishing boxes that have evil spirits in them, and you can, and the Gimmick is the thing is, is you can? You can have seven wishes. They bump it up right because if it's a bottle from genie, you only got three wish in China. The wishing box has seven wishes, but there's there's seven wishes with consequences. What they? Postulate, so is that what it is? A monkey monkey, a monkey, positive thing you wish on, and then you get I. Think you get five wishes because every time you wish, the finger goes down but the wish comes with the yeah like the unexpected consequence. Oh well, this may be a rip off from that. This was a Chinese box. Right and she wishes on China box. And stuff happens A. Wish like the first one is the girl that was calling her Dad Dumpster Daddy, interest, Rate. And then she puts the box down. Not Knowing that your wish is GonNa come true, and and the girl started. The beautiful cheerleaders aren't rotten. wished well the the consequences. When you have a wish, it's GonNa come true, but someone you know is going to die. Oh, how many wishes and this is my question, you guys? How many wishes would you wish? Now. It's random. Who Dies and like so? The first one was her dog died. Of course she's upset about, and she didn't make the correlation at first, but you know her dog died, but then it's getting people that she knows so. How many how many wishes would you make if you knew you had a Chinese wish inbox, but randomly someone you know it could be someone you know. Could just someone at school, but someone you're aware of is going to die, but you got seven wishes. How many wishes you're making zero wishes zero. Not, just, The dog I mean you know. Y- it's random, so could. It could be the dog, or it could be you know my my girl. I I can't risk that right right? Right I mean what's GonNa, make Angel Yeah. I'm probably going on this one to what's more fascinating as what you consider, stardom, or or what Hollywood unknowns. Regards to the smooth. Why is there anyone out there you know? That's that is beauty of this because there's no reason why you should know this guy, but it said that this is careers fallen that he's taken these kinds of movies I guess. People are famous. Right in Philippi. Philipe Yeah Oh that was. He not that. He kind of he was married Witherspoon been. Yeah. That's why you hate him all right? That's why you're just. Doing that he was he was. He was the. Would happen to him, but. we dropped in two thousand seventeen, and it did theatrical release. It wasn't straight to DVD. To make this movie. Oh God had a causing a seventy five hundred dollars. It was a twelve million dollar films shooed. They spent twelve million on this and their return for twelve million was twenty three point five million. I gotTA. Tell you what I enjoyed. It is a dumb move. God these are the kinds of movies. I like dumb. I've never heard of him. It's got a twist at the end. If not gory gory, it's like it's implied, Gore you know like someone putting their hand and every time. Someone hard puts her hand down to clean out the the drain. Where there's a there's a disposal. Know. What's GonNa Happen Right but That was Emma. Yeah Girl Joey King This is probably one of her first. Movie roles because he ends up doing. She won a Golden Globe award. She won a Primetime Emmy Award for the act. No, no, that is. On the kissing booth. That's the wall on Netflix. Thing. Yeah, so she was in that domain rises. On what she didn't that? Every time, she made a wish like someone randomly would die. She got hooked on the wishes right. I wouldn't mind having a like like she. How many wishes are you making? Yeah, well, I mean you know I. Don't know that many people. Really get a bad ass boat for one wish. That was the thing. We were able to sacrifice their angel. Willing to roll the dice it give me one of us or could be bulk. Right Right Right A. he'll be the dogs. The dogs old anyway I mean. You know you cried for that dog the other day I do. It was played in the movie. She gets hooked on the wishes right. Because like you wish this guy would love her. You know that he was. I. Must Be Ryan Phillippe. The most popular guy in school i. wish he would love me, and then and then, and then it turns out well. That's not really what you wish because he becomes obsessive, and he's all crazy and anyway I. It was a it was one of those movies. Found this is just dumb enough. That's fun to watch and nobody knows anything about it I like your level of excitement for this movie. No one's ever heard of even think. Ryan Phillippe Avni knew about it Philipe fully. It's been so long since Ryan has been in our lives I, forgot how to say his name. Yeah, but he was a big deal in my world he was in cruel intentions and I remember that movie because they say what he did in the movie. 'cause. I'm telling which one was it, was he. The father was the the father twenty seventeen. Imagine being a high school sweetheart. Okay, so he was the father. Okay all right well. man L.. No, it was like finding the gym. Though because I've found some crappy ones I've found. There's one I was watching with Elijah Wood and it's like Come the daddy or something like that, Oh yeah, and Movies have daddy's in no not. Ready. You Got Daddy. This one was dumb though like. It was boring. It's like his his dad. I never talked to him. and then thirty or thirty five years later I wanted to come. Visit me and then down Dad's a killer this stupid. He's chopping meat and he's crazy. There's something about Elijah Wood that I just can't stand. I don't know what it is. Even Lord of the Rings, which is a movies series that I love just a just a punishable face. Is that what it is I don't know? He's supposed to be like a DJ. Dj. Mixing up with a thrill, and and all this stuff, and he starts bragging to his dad, he's never met before that he works with with Elton John and I will call John Right. Now you know, of course it could because he was lying That was the that was the most exciting part of the movie. Sucked I turn it off halfway through. I like that you take these chances on movies. Though a lot of people don't do that, you gotTa. Roll the dice. I like them just the one we saw yesterday that wish apart just cheesy enough. Have had to turn the end. They the implied violence. You don't see it. Like Oh, what you know what happened, but then they turn the turn to camera way real quick and. There's a dude like the up on a ladder with a chainsaw. And you know what's about to happen, and you know someone's GonNa get their head cut off, but they don't actually show which is. Is the end of the movie that she wishes. She never wished for these wishes. I can't I'm not. I will not blow the end of the movie. You got to watch it. That's not. Know something else that they do and you're like. Oh! I didn't think of that. And they get you okay, I. Like allows never watched this movie. You don't think anybody ever. Will you? Don't think we're GONNA watch now I need to know how it wish I mean I'll tell you during the break bowel and save on the air. One person out there, that's going to watch. That is true because I like even if it's an older movie like people, I I for the first time got when somebody's like. Oh, you're spoiling it. No move came out twenty years ago, but I had never seen the usual suspects. I've never seen it. That I've always meant to get to yeah. And I didn't spoiled the other day. I was like ow. Never need to see that and you know what we tried. And we got maybe twenty minutes like God. This is so bad. Hangover to is not good and I really go downhill. Hangover to is real, and it's the same premise. Everything's the same answer when it's so when everything's the same surprise. It's not funny and we're sitting here like this is terrible. Guess what happens in the hangover three. Same thing! Exacting? Cashed in two other times, but not not not as good. Now that was that was really sad. I mean I still saw all three of them, so they got my money. got to a bad relationship. I just kept coming back for more and expecting different results. Angel, would you yesterday? Yesterday was Super Chill I was hanging out at the house, and just working on some. Media stuff that setting up some media stuff guy for the episode dropping for my brother Okay. I'll be doing an interview with a writer from the New York Times and and then some industry people that work with us reached out because they got their trailer already and then they were like Oh damn, that's angel and so Yeah. See, whereas you know the guy, bobby bones show his producer, his producer used to work here and We both worked at seven forty back in the day board up and Baseball Games so he reached out as well 'cause apparently they got the advanced copy of it, and so he reached. I might be doing something with them later on this to you still haven't seen the. I haven't seen the trailer or the episode, but I've seen a lot of stuff starting to pop up on Online I guess that? By the way the show is unsolved mysteries. Net flex coming back on that plagues and one of the first episodes. Features angels, brother and his family and his mysterious death. And that's coming up that's coming up in a couple of weeks, right, yeah! It's July the first and Yeah, so it's just it's weird. Having these conversations with people regards like I don't know these people in their. Hey, you know. Would you want to do this interview? With The New York Times I was like I guess in my supposed to and so yeah. So, we're just like sitting. That's. How are you going to watch it like what is That's a topic of conversation. We're going through right now. With the family I. Ideally I think I would have liked to just me. Be Bobby and I. Yeah, and just watch it that way but like we're things that like stuff I said before regards to the family and everything. I think this might be one of those things where we finally as a family kind of. Sit Down and watch the salt together I see I wonder if I mean yeah. I think in my thought process would be I. Don't let me watch my girl. I cases anything anything to warn my mom and dad about you know what I mean like. Okay, there's a part here that I really like mom and Dad. You should be prepared for you know. Oh, so with that said and the only person in our circle that has seen is my brother's wife she. She's happy with us. She's very happy with it. She thinks at that. It hits the right tone in the sense of what we are hoping to accomplish with bringing more attention to the story, and hopefully at some point, maybe get some resolution so if she's comfortable with it and she doesn't feel like there's anything. That is made? Mortgage might not be different than your parents though like. I think in regards to this. We've always we've. followed her lead on this. Yeah I'm so with her and her sensitivities, and what her comfort levels and whatnot. That's dictated a lot of what we do as a family, so I think with her blessing. It'll be alright to all of us. Watch it together. It's just going to be difficult because we have never. Had any of these kind of conversations? Yeah, you know so. I think that part of it about family I think that's coming in from out of town. so it's. I guarantee you that it's going to be in the top ten of shows once it comes out unsolved mysteries, people your style Joe alone. So there's that hype around the show the brand and then the people that are putting together they carry the you know some notoriety. themselves with other programs. Are The show now, but other programs that they've helped with Netflix's so there is that start are starting to I? Guess build. With anticipation for that show to come back. Yeah, yeah, so it's a unsolved mysteries. It'll be on Netflix in about two weeks. So you know and I keep thinking that it could have. It could have the same impact that I tiger king did. Could. Let me. Ask You a question angel. Because it is you and it said for you. It's so real. Are we going to be able to discuss it? I think that's. Year. That's the. My level of comfort, talking with you guys obviously with this story in particular grown in the last year or so You know and I've shared these things with you guys so I think with you guys is going to be because right now. You know all all you know. Everything I'm getting ready to have a conversation with corporate and everything in regards to how we handle that. Extra or internally with the story because there's. You guys that I've been talking to. And I and I. I know the listeners are going. What do you mean you tell everybody understand what I'm talking I'm like I. Feel like I'm just talking to you guys right right right so. I think there's a question of how I don't want people to give that. Don't know anything about any of this. And they stumbled upon this and they don't know how to deal with me or how to interact with me. You know what I mean. Yeah, so there were getting rid I'd someone busting my ass? I'll rush. You're asking him all the insensitive questions. I think that I was no. and. That's the thing because we have like this report and I know like you. Guys are listening in on this conversation there have, but this is stuff that I've kind of built up an shared with the guys over the last year. So you know what I mean. I didn't think it was anything out of line that day. Dude I and if there is anything, I, I'd be willing to say man. You know I'm not sure if I'm not. You know but other than so, but that's you guys and I know you guys I work with you guys. In this building and like for example bobby bones producer he out of nowhere. He's like Hey, do I just saw this you know and so he's coming at me from his perspective of you know he's looking for content for that. Show you know and so that's what your super weird for me. I will say that Ryan. That it is a personal story. It is a real story, and it is something that we're trying to bring attention to, and so it's personal to me and I. Just need to be able to be careful on how I don't want it to seem that I'm ever pandering or that. I'm just trying to do I guess for attention clicks. You know what I mean. I'm a radio guy I'm doing this for attention. which and you're not, you wouldn't even talk about this for years and yeah, you're right. Yeah, but you know how someone's GonNa turn something twisted to. It's not. I understand being concerned about that, so and so those are the conversations, but yeah. I I would expect that we would be able that I'm sure you guys are GonNa. Watch. This and you're GonNa be like Holy Crap. Questions, ask you you know, and obviously any question. We ask what's going to be done in a polite way. Because we care about and want to see I mean it'd be great if they solve the mystery you know I think you guys. I probably aspects of this that are probably going to be like not realize it because there's some parts of it that are a lot closer to home than we realized Oh Gotcha okay very cool all right. We'll do a when we come back. I believe we're GONNA do a little nerdy news. Jeff, Kaufman he'll be on the line with us. If you have chance Goto our youtube channel, it's real radio MOSSER's on Youtube. That's real radio monsters on Youtube, or if your facebook person just go to a real radio's facebook and we're live on there as well so check it out. Don't go anywhere. You're listening to the monsters the morning. Take all. The time. You Need One point one. The! MANTRAS mornings over to point one broadcasting live on Iheartradio I'm rose rollins along with. Are you. Ryan, homes and Angel here today and our special guests I'm saving a question actually for later for Jeff. Jeff compensated with us now for the nerdy news to have someone who is legal question and we're GonNa do that later on at nine o'clock, but it had the legal questions You can always send them to A. You can text them to us like this guy did or email me Russ at W.. Dot Com and on the line with US right now is Jeff Kaufman for the news, I do Jeff. I'm doing real good working on the book. You and I gotta get on it today. Yeah, yeah, we gotTA FINISH IT UP. Finish up. This is a jolly Jane. This is the second graphic novel. This is the end of the second graphic novel that we've gotTA. Get finished and we we. We got an angel, very respectful Dr. Carlos has got a great great you know role in our world are jolly Jane World and we added Ryan homes last week respect. I didn't say that That it and we get to you know I'm thinking. We can maybe have a little bit more today. Jeff with that story line that we did you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah I'm kind of excited. I tend Edwards the cover artist was actually in my office, dropping off the covers, issues three and four. He just gets better and better with every cover amazing. Somebody asked me about Jolly Jane yesterday I was out somewhere where the hell was a oh, the guy from Los Padres and he's bought all the comics that he loves them, and and he's like Winston next win is an extra coming out. I know it's been so long. I said well because of everything. Happening with you know the beginning of the year there was no. Mega Con- We didn't have a comic con in San Diego, like all that kind of obviously put a damper on everything, and but I did understand that comic con in San Diego are they gonNA. Do like a virtual comic Con Jeff. Yeah, they're doing a virtual comecon where some of that some of the people out there are going to be selling some goods, but it's not a premier for us. It's not the same thing we can do the same thing by doing an online. Thank their lives doing that right now. For Example Warner Brothers is doing what they call DC fan dome, and that's going to be an August twenty second, and that every show they have and every movie coming out for twenty four hours. It's just going to be every actor. Every writer director is going to be pushing this for you know it's. It's an online world right now. For for everything, but that's why we have come out with these second graphic novel Jolly Jay, but it's almost done and went and Wendy think we'll be the first time. People will get a chance to get Jeff. Well, we have driving. Trying count is still on and Atlanta for September. Third through the fifth and then New York comecon October. It's hard because you. WanNa do make a big team here. You just don't WanNa go here, they are. They're online, but we've been shut out of all our convention, so it's you know we had the book standard says. It's a little tough. Yeah, especially, you know having people. Thousands of people get together for a convention. Now is going to be a question whether they're you know. There's a second surge of covid nineteen in that they might not have those other conventions I know you don't want to hear that, but there's still possibility we might not have a convention per the the entire year. Well. One of the good things is yes. Our numbers are up, but people are getting tested. Who Don't have any symptoms so these aren't the hospitalization haven't really gone up that much, so you're kinda hoping that you know. We can kind of build up these antibodies. So when the second round come, not a lot of people will be carriers in comparison to the way we were in February. Right? Hey, Jeff, what have you heard about? About wonder woman, a nineteen eighty-four, coming out sooner, or are they waiting into October? Have you heard? I was supposed to come out and August. It was you know they keep bumping stuff up I? Mean for example Star Wars celebration that was supposed to be a huge event in California that okay canceled a couple of days ago. but I have a feeling. They're opening up because a lot of the movie. Vancouver, for example start filming again and top a week's Disneyworld. It's going to be open up next month I. Mean we're? We're starting to turn this up again and I. Think Theaters are going to be opened up at the end of next month, so there's a lot of good things in that very good. What else is going on in the nerdy news yet? Well we got a couple of good things. the CW era war all it's all the shows in Vancouver that I talked about for example supernatural blasts. All these people do not get film. They're real final episodes and they're gonNA be going back to Vancouver film all these shows that it is so weird to see that happen. Supernatural one that you can jump into this season and and get what's going on or do you have to go from the beginning because Mariela? Supernatural, and and I know that a new season come out and I thought okay. I can watch it with her. But to get caught up. It's like fourteen, thousand, four hundred fifty two seasons Oh. Yeah, but you should be able to jump on that what? Why don't you do this with Marilyn? Why don't you watch the first episode? It's on Netflix. Why don't you just at least try to watch? The first episode and season catches on. I mean to a lot of hard rock. I mean I think I think he might like it a really cool car. I'm willing to try anything. I mean. I understand that, but supernatural I think is was one of the best adventure or sci-fi shows on television I've been I've watched the series a couple times, so it's got burned through this from beginning to end maybe two or three times. I think it's I think it's really that good, okay good. had star girl is still pretty much the only thing on. On DC UNIVERSE RIGHT? That's the new the new thing there. That no Harley Quinn. A cartoon which I is really good I. It's really funny I. Mean You got Jd Smooth is one of the actors. From the Big Bang Yeah I I would try to watch that it's really funny, and they throw Batman, and every once in a while, and you see all the DC and the joker. It's a really funny show 'cause it's like are rated, so they do a Lotta swearing and her and Harley make out a couple of times. It just kind kinda funny. whose the whose the NERD of the week! I'M GONNA. Give this. The person is riding. Marvel comics. They're. They're printing division right now. Because as I told you last week, DC decided they were GONNA go with a new distributor, and basically stores buy from their competition, so marvel decided to. Give a Little Jab and they they announced a couple of their new books coming out, and they said, and still on Wednesday because DC's GonNa. Try to get it out the day before and most people aren't going to go to the stores on Tuesday and Wednesday so I. Think Marvel's. GonNa win this one, so go go marble. Yeah, they seem to win all the battles. MOM FOR DC boy. I did see the with the new Batman movie that the join with Robert Pattinson that he signed it three movie deal and movie three. They're going to have another joker, but it's not gonNA. Be If not GONNA be walking. Phoenix is like some new person haven't said WHO's going to be yet. They did a three movie deal with mind if it was. Well. They have to because you. Can't you know they have the equal and the next one I mean for example Superman original Christopher reasonable shot back to back. Those are one and two done together, so it's it's not unusual and I would actually like to see Johnny Depp. Play the joker. I. Think he kind of has what it needs I think that's a good call I think he would be great, and and and it's usually whoever plays a joker as someone that is. Either could win an academy award or has won one before the it. It's these actors that they don't just pick you know slumps the joke. The jokers like a big character. I know you like to. Let you continue? I'll Stop Jack. Nicholson played the first one. I mean you you Cesar Romero. You're going to some of the best actors at their time have played this role and I mean come on to Oscar, we have to believe that this role is significant for people. Oh, for sure I'm jared Leto and I think he got screwed over a lot of those best ups on the cutting room floor, and when they re released the suicide squad, you might see. People might like his joker a lot better. I hope so that would be thing. They might not. This is one of those things that they're gonNA. They're going to might have directors cut for like Superman vs I'm Justice League. They're saying they're not planning on doing that, but they might you know. If he had legal questions for Jeff COBB and he's got to call us back around nine o'clock when he gets into the office I, have a couple of four year. 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Warning I'm restaurants along with Angel and Ryan homes, so take a guess fellows on this day twenty six years ago, twenty six years ago, Ninety five million people watched something. What do you think twenty-six years ago and I was one of nine, hundred, ninety four, it was that was nineteen, ninety-four very good math math guy. Ninety, five million people watch this. Ninety five million in nineteen, ninety, four watched the OJ Simpson Bronco. Chase thing, go far bet, is it? Yes, yes, twenty six years ago today The O. J. Simpson. Car- car as happened. Five million people watch the eight hour police chase of OJ Simpson and In school you did ask teacher had it on, and we just sat there and we watched it I didn't. I was watching what was happening, but basketball game I think I was watching a basketball game and play offs. Play the middle NBA playoffs and I think it's a Laker game if I remember correctly guys A. They were in La that games on and I remember the box in the corner, and they're covering the the chase with him on that at the same time, and at the time it was surreal because of the time he was like OJ Simpson. Everybody loved him. You know. He was from the naked gun to me that he was from naked gun. He was a great football player. It was so crazy and if you remember correctly, I mean we had racial tension racial problems. The whole thing had a lot to do with the way you know. Black Americans are treated, and that's why that's why so many it was. Racial divide will give so many people wanted him to be guilty on. Other people wanted to be innocent because police head. Especially in the area there's a lot of examples of racial profiling and and and that kind of stuff, so that was a big racial issue the entire time. Do you remember it that way? In regards to OJ absolutely yeah, without a doubt and you gotta understand the precursor to that that it's happening. After Rodney King Right now. It's happening after the LA riots. That's A. Crazy, you know the way. The day when they when they finally did the you know. The jury came in and I was like okay. You know OJ Simpson. Found not guilty. It's it was a divide man like white people were like what the hell and in black people like. Yeah. He got off and they were it was. It was a crazy time, but yeah twenty six years ago. Today is when they did the bulk of the Bronco Chase. That Bronco. Sold in Austin A. Couple of times. It's really funny, so Ford is coming back out with the Bronco this year and the day they're releasing. It is OJ Simpson's birthday. Where they didn't do it on purpose and. Do the press release and the people looking up and they're like. James Birthday. That's that it's so crazy to me like there's so much I did not know about the that car chase because I remember watching it and I always thought he was the one driving. Driving his buddy. AC Fully Collins Yeah. And he was in the back seat he was. He was flipping out 'cause like Oh man. How they catching me any crying back there and a was going to commit suicide and everything, and then he and then he didn't put. Yeah. That's twenty six years ago. They also twenty three years ago today It's the second release. By this band. And they had a smash hit. Call dammit what band is? Eighty. Way Back in the day before Travis. Barker was in that band twenty three years ago today the band the. Dude, Ranch Yup and blink one eighty two released dude ranch, so it was a popular Song Oh. Yeah, that that was a I. remember seeing the video for that on MTV and just realizing Oh. This is the music I like. Like I never found my genre before I like. Just grown up I kind of listen to like alternative rock. You know, but like nothing. I've ever hit me the second I. Heard that Band Dan and Dan Dan Dan Dan in and I was like I love this. I love everything about this forever, but. You have every album. Yes, okay, so, would you say that you can't as big as close as you could get to? Kiss Fan like I am is your willing to? Yeah, yeah! We didn't have silly makeup and stuff, but we definitely had outfielder. You didn't actually silly. Make okay You, you don't have marketing. They don't market as well as. No there's now there's no mascot. This dammit! Oh. Yes, Great! Yeah I'M NOT GONNA. Talk on blink one answer. They're good I mean this this own yet. It changed my whole trajectory as youth and. But we have well. They did have a marketing, or they did have like a look not i. don't know about the other guys one long Dickie Pants. That's kind of punk surfer kind of vibe that they did and then I. Don't know if you remember. But when Travis came to the group or whatever a little bit later, he evolves that brand of famous stars and straps. That was part of him so they did have some stuff now. Are they together blink? They're still banned, so tom went off to do his alien nonsense and all right. He's alien gas. He left to go do all that he's got a ban. Angels and airwaves where all their stuff is about the galaxy. Original members of Blake one eighty two. Are there today technically one? And what does he play Mark Compass? He's the Bass player. because their original drummer wasn't Travis Barker's. That guy's gone. Tom Delong gone. They got the guy from alkaline trio to come in and replace him so technically. Mark Hop is the only original member from blink. One Eighty jail I didn't know that about the drummer. 'CAUSE I. I became aware blink when their album a year later a couple of years later and I'm of the state and the only reason I remember that. Yeah because the video they they had a music video where they're running around with the doing the stock thing and basically nude in the whole video. That's where I remember blink. One Eighty, two for one of them are more recent albums. They did a complete shot for shot remake of that album of that of that video. It's not them running. It was just cool to see just for nostalgia purposes, and the song was good. Hey, so angel! This is stuff. We played the real music weekends right a ton of link. Yeah, that's what I recognized from because back in the day when we would do weekends on real radio right after we did mornings on Saturday and Sunday morning then they were real music week and afterwards and I remember hearing a lot of this stuff, and then I did. Then I think there's a song shoot. Sure lags meet, but she don't like. Meet Bush. Got I got slapped for singing that song one. Kid Yeah. You're I didn't understand the lyrics and I was just saying. Because I think the songs called Mary Mo- right, yeah! It was a great thing I heard it from real radio and singing it along, and I was like. Don't like meat but Sir like the Button Fam-, what what did I do? I like your mom. That's funny man with twenty three years. Yeah, I'm just feeling I'm feeling all of my age right now you know, be be glad that your band is still around. That's the thing is is. that he doesn't like this incarnation of the band, O! With everybody together. This is my kiss. This is like I. Do! But it want Tom to long back. We do this as fans with our bands. Right you you. You lock into that romantic thing of your what your band is. Only will see your band in those is, and then you know members, come and go with brothers have falling outs. They do these things and they never get back together. Only want this one version of the ban, and that's the most authentic version of the man. Meanwhile they're you know they're artists. They're doing their thing. You gotTA. ACIS with one member, one of the guys replaced and they had a waste of. See nolde. They do only waste of songs. I know he's Don he will do. The thing was cool with that. Is that is the principal songwriters all the hits? All the greatest songs ever were always written by him. They're all his, so he'll You know some of the iconic songs you will throw in with his solo stuff as well away. Says made the news again last night, Senate, about one of the brothers and saying that the other brother burned his house down. If you look it up. On News. Joel They're fighting again in one says he burned his house down, and he did it on purpose and there. You might not have any skin in this game. You might not understand the context of looking for a ridiculously fun. Twitter. Follow Follow Liam. Gallagher the dude is alone, and that's knowles younger brother. He's absolutely insane. And at any given moment he's going to go in on his brother, calling him a potato, or whatever or accusing burning down his house. The I. Don't know which one accused which one. I'd the story somewhere and I was GONNA, ask. But, but did you find it all I think. It's going to be lamb. Lamb is accusing Dole of born down. Is How these are the this is the way. Angel Angel's kiss, Angel. It's actually the other way round Liam Gallagher wants almost burned down Knowles House. That's it so Liam. Is He's the he's the job. He's the younger one yeah. Make Sense. My? God this is how rights is profile this is. Just give you an idea of like. How much of a loon is right is profile for his twitter handle rock and roll star, god-like, roster icon legend Biblical omnipresent profit. Comedian but Jessica Celestial Buddhas Judah. Djeddai approachable Zen Lover Humble I like it. I live. We'll take a break. We'll do trivia when we come back, so get on the line your chance to promote and plug whatever you want and we've got prizes in the price. We'll tell you about so don't go anywhere. You're listening to the mantras the morning. Table Appeal. Shoutout to Jerry friend. Who's the guy that did this song for me years ago? All rise as my rest was my wrestling intro music by the way. Hear that I know it's getting nervous. 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So happy not in the top five. Who Do you want to help you? Angel or Ryan homes? Think about it and attainable. Angel Rivera. Tomorrow is tomorrow is national go fishing day I used to love fishing. We can talk about that after you get it right. what what does America's most popular fish to eat salmon? Salmon is correct. They're they're easy. You're a winner Sir so Martin. What do you want to promote? What do you want to plug? That Game Day. Guys were playing yesterday. It was. Is it racist. Okay. I'm I. Want you to play for thirty seconds. Play what? Play the game. Yeah I don't I. Don't have anything I don't have any day. Those just come up when I have a question in my mind. I don't have any question. If. Okay what what's your question? Is it. Is it racist to say? It smells like somebody's took a Mexican shower here. I don't a Mexican shower is. I'M GONNA, go with. Yeah, absolutely absolutely racing if it's a couple minutes, not racist, though right. What's a Mexican shower? Well. Ages smells like somebody put a lot of Cologne. How Oh. Probably is racist Yeah Yeah Angel. Would you say yeah? Not Inherently Racist Ma. Maybe you're being a dick. Yeah all right very good. We're GONNA. Put you on hold. Sir And you get a prize from the from the price. Tomorrow is national. Go Fishing, day and yeah. Salmon is the most popular fish that that American I thought it was going to something like two Lappia or something that you would get long John Silver's. Can just comment real quick. How how your mind worked on that and I'm proud of you. I guess because like your your mind went like no. Never been in a Mexican shout before. It's like really nice. Like cool tiles in it or whatever? Literally went showers in Mexico, yeah. He, didn't he didn't go cultural anything he just was like never. Maybe a Mexican shower smells really good news. It was a compliment. What he's talking about Cologne okay. That's horseback. Salmon being the number one I thought it would be to APP or something that you get it. Let the long John Silver's. So long we've been told not to eat ilab happier I know, but isn't that what they use like? The US cod. Yeah, I do I have never been long John Silvers in the one that was around me apparently shutdown, so you've never been. Asked what I've been told. And I'm like in that conversation. I was having with Bobby. I was like I in my life if I went to long. John Silvers, one time. Yeah, I might be too much. I can't really what you know what to. What you order I don't even know. What would their into fish and chips the fish? The fish is good, I only go to a Taco Bell, pizza. Hut and Long Johns look. At a piece of peace. An attack, Oh yeah yeah. I, honestly I was going to say. Is this really the? Canned tuna on their well. Tuna tuna on their tuna fish is in second place because I figured most thing that people eat fish wise would be canned tuna. That's in second first places Salmon Tuna. Then it goes to cod and then trout. Fish that the people you guys like Fisher your fish eaters. No, absolutely yeah. I had grill salmon the other day. I Love Salmon. That's that is my favorite. That's pretty good. Yeah, do you like to go fishing because I? I had stepped in life where this back when I had party world. Right and you're looking for something to do the weekend a goat in the wake up. Saturday morning and watch the Bass. Masters Tournament. And we all fired up to go fishing the after I'd go bass fishing. I used to love it. BIG MOUTH BASS fishing out in Texarkana when I was living in Texas. What's the biggest bash you ever caught? I wasn't good at it. I went and I think I got probably a couple hits on the line, but I I don't think I caught anything that day I got a Ford half-pounder, one time and I mean just like I that's why those guys get hooked into it. Because the fighting on one of those fish that size you feel like you're fighting a short and it comes up. It's just a little. Their little bald, the little holes man. They do not want to be pulled up. They're mad about it. I'd like to put you back, you know. Let me catch I'm GONNA a catch and release like the Bass. Catching them. Let's go. Him and thrown back in was. Always Kissing. That's a ritual right, yeah! Not on the lips right on the forehead, and you're throwing back in. Go back to catch again someday. Aren't you spiky? Fin to the face, no! You don't kiss defend men, and the whiskers are like our wispy Yes, Angel! So you were mentioning that on that top five is codfish as well right? Yeah, COD! That's what they use. Have you guys ever had Buckeye? Yes, of course all the time. Only with me. So in Latin America. what they do this thing with the codfish, get it breaded, and they fry it and it's called back. Ally does and this. One of the most amazing things that will completely change your life in regards if you like codfish or not, and it's one hundred percent not healthy for you always helping. Oh, absolutely, I know they fry it out. But it's so amazing. When I went to Costa Rica and go to the restaurants restaurant, there is not like a restaurant. It's like someone's kitchen, and and their kitchens in the front of the House and they live in the back of the house. and. Eat the most fresh fish you've ever had with rice and it was so good. Really good, you know and this lobby is one of those two that sounds like a fancy fish, and they renamed it from something else original name was. That when they farm them, they eat poop. Yeah, I know that's that's the. That's the thing about it, but. I mean you know you're not supposed to be eating farmed fish? Anyway, though you're not supposed to. If you're going to restaurant, you're getting farmed fish for the most part unless you're going to like one of those. You know. We we do fresh fish, but if you were to fish, get Italian restaurant. You're getting that pharmacist. The thought processes if there's a bunch of fish in one little area and your farm, you're growing them then then their their pooping in the water, and then they're they're. Is that the same thing as the ocean, righteous oceans is bigger. It same thing. It's a little bit bigger than then. A farm fishing day a little bit bigger. Yeah! I almost bought a fish farm once, did you? It was like a good enough deal like it wasn't even that expensive, and it was just essentially this plot of land with a big rectangle square water. Yeah, and it came with the employees and everything, and then it was like selling fish. was something crazy cheap? Where you're like eight grand mean I come up with that and be a fish farmer. I see how much you know about about fishing because we're not throughout. The Bass had whispers whiskers. You didn't say a word. I felt you're just trying to get me on something dirty. Jim Style I'm not falling for that. I've been stabbed by Aspin before. It's not fun but go through your hand. They don't have whiskers. Catfish. Oh Yeah. Yeah, it's not it's not pleasant I. Wish things about drinking. When you're watching those shows, it's always about you know you you. You catch and release a Kestrel released, and then when you see someone that catches a bathroom wants to chop it up and eat it and make sure mad why I don't know, 'cause you're not supposed to. Because on the shows, they always catch and release so so you're not supposed to eat them. But I was fishing. One time we were in a boat, and the other guy was in a four pound, and he's like eating him and I'm like Oh man. It's supposed to come back. But I. Guess Bass as good to eat, but yeah I've never done like competitive style fishing. It's just about means and friends going out on a dinghy, because cousin that was on the Bass Masters. Tour wants the money doing it, and he was a basket. Right here in Orlando used to take tiger woods out. He's take There's baseball players or those. That did you remember the dude that we had last year? We had a we had he was he had a. he was a country music I, had a couple of albums and country music and he was doing the bass fishing thing. And there was a big tournament that was happening here in central. Florida we I can't remember I, do so. He was awesome I, forget yeah I mean. As, far as interview I don't think he was greatest fishermen because he didn't win that weekend. We're talking about you were giving us a story about Michael Jordan in that fishing tournament, and he he even though he caught like a four hundred fifty pound What was it Marlon Yeah? He came in second last place. Of the tournament, I guess that a lot of people cut for the weekend because that he won the whole tournament. Yeah, he was, he was in the lead there for a little while, but then other guys caught, and he came in second to last place for for that, but fishing's fine man. I mean I like bass fishing lack because I did it when I was a kid. Going fishing on like a local boat here you know going out on the in the ocean and stuff is fun, but it's a day long process and last time I went I. isn't it was when I the first time I really broke out sweating blood. And I'm on the boat, and like I cut my throat and people were freaking out. Looks like I might get a chance to do that here in the future deep-sea vision. Yeah I've never been out there on the ocean fishing. You'll like it. You'll like it for a day as long as you get a good a good guy and a guy that knows where to go because I've been out with. What's going on just driving around the ocean and you never get catch anything. I liked when we did it. The last time there's four of us, but there was like seven or eight lines in the waters. The like you could just like one would start to go, and you could just walk over there and we're like okay my turn to get the fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was Super Nice, my buddy John. He tried to be a basket into the bass fishing game and his wife I felt like it was going to murder him the whole time Oh. Yeah, because a it's super expensive. Oh, and then he had to start. At the low ranks of on a team right, so he was just for like six months. The net guy. Yeah, There's lots. Yes, cousin, Tommy like he was a bass. He was one of the Bass Masters he came in third or something and tournament but he was sponsored by like the boats I forget what bode was whatever the popular vote in that. Rate he was. Sponsored by ranger and was really really good at it, but He ended up being outside so much he he got skin cancer had to stop came in on the show was Luke. Dunkin Loop Dunkin look. Country Music Star? Dad Back see what he's up to stay in the game. Has Country Music doing a complicated individual. How like in the fish and game in the fish and game are listening? We'll take a break. Come back. Savannah's gotta be with us. We'll find out who will say what he thinks. He's GonNa. Say Angel, I think she's going to say it. Brian wants to drink in her house. It's okay he's going to have a problem with I don't think the problem with it, but but maybe maybe Ryan certainly even asked I. Don't know we'll figure it out. We talked to her Don't go anywhere. You're listening to the mantra. Got To do better. We have to highlight problem May. Be Born the power comfortable, but we also have to translate back into practical solutions and laws. That could be implemented. All the World, you who? Are Basically page Israel Radio on Facebook, and you could see us as well welcome back, I'm rush. Rollins along with Ryan homes and Angel, and now joining us from I think she's from her house is. Her House looks. No she's got. Just a pilot again. Yeah, but that's not what your house looks like. It's that's. That's her gator. You like a gator background I liked. That looks good. Today's World Cross J.. World. I did not know that. Today grow as they have to celebrate crocodiles all day today. Okay, if you had if you a wreck, you like alligators. Crocodiles right. I like football I I. I like the power of a rocket at all, but I like the good nature of an alligator. Good nature another another story I saw overnight, somebody went swimming in their pool and there was a gator inner pool. Are, they attracted to the. Track to the chlorine. Does the chlorine bother a gator? They not care one way or the other. They don't care much about that. I mean water water to them, so they don't really care about the glory. They just I mean if I'm an alligator, and this is what my conservationist friend always tells me. You GotTa think like an alligator crocodile. Alligator somebody's running me out of my lawn and I'm small and I. Don't WanNa fight I'M GONNA go up in your pool Jill like six. Probably their food over there probably clean water? And Clean Area Ryan homes is coming to to I guess to see if it's. I W- livable livable. That's even by fair. The nerve nerve. Go and say detect out. Savannah's place meets your standards. Sir Let she showed us. She showed us on on Youtube. You know she's with. Is Our places super clean like it's look Super Nice. She's got a whole side of the House that she's going to allow you to stay in for free but savannah. He has a question to ask you. I'm asking you. Have a really high power bill. You might want to help with that but I'm not going to give you a specific amount, but you might want to help with that. Things are things are changing already well. Here's a here's. He's afraid to ask so. I'll tell you what he asked me yesterday. He and his girl. You know when they're spending time at home, don't. To partake in an alcoholic beverage or to? Adult beverage and he's like well since Savannah does, drake is improper to ask if I'm allowed to drink at her house as well I. You know I think she's going to mind, but I guess you need to talk to her about it. I've never been around the two of them drunk before, so they are. ARE THEY GONNA like? Do some kind of weird? That's okay. She brings up a good point. Are you guys cool drunks? Very. Good point now, she. Oh, well, we don't. We don't get like you know ways deface. Because, there's a there's a story out there that one time you might have had a handful of Margaritas and then thought it was a great idea to get married and parking lot that was. That was during a pandemic. Four that there was a story actor that you might have had a gallon of to that amazing Margarita, and from post to your lady in the hour naked also during. the good news is. Very far away from the place. That makes delicious Margaritas to go and Galileo, but here's the thing. Okay, so on a regular Wednesday. It's not like I'm getting crazy, so that has told you she's not going to be there that much because she works a lot of gator land, but so you might get this false sense of security like okay. It's okay to get book. Ask Crazy, well naked. Thin. You know see that she don't want to see that. Want see that like I. Don't want one time to come home and be like and like the you on the couch laying there with your wehner out old. You imagine, but that's how I live my life. The, no pants less style. And you knew what you can and I'm a I'm a fan of you live in your life the way you want Jane Elliott of your life that like that here's. Another are rule if he's a cool. Cool. Drunk, it's fine. I don't care if he's going to be cool, but now making me all sketch out 'cause now. I think like like I. Don't WanNa wake up in the middle of night and have Ryan. They're going you only. I get up very early. Go to bed very early. Sadly sadly, my bedtime around eight o'clock, so, but the being around alcohol is not GonNa make is not going to be uncomfortable for us. I didn't think so I. think she'd care. Raising this in a very different way recipes making it sound like I said yesterday after the show. Hey, man! How much supposed to party over there all the time? I like to get crazy. Tabanas a nerd. She doesn't drink. And, I'm like man. You shouldn't say something like what I said at all I. Heard it. That's how. She's being sweet and giving you a place to stay I was just like Oh man. I was like Oh. Yeah, like I know. Savannah doesn't drink I. Would I'd probably would have to just not drink for thirty days or however long it takes the close on a house. It wasn't like house book. She go to slow down. My party lifestyle. I like to get real drunk on Tuesday yeah you do. Yeah I don't care I. don't care what you do with your. Drink it how you live your life like that doesn't bother me at all. You know, don't put it on. Just don't do anything weird like that's. That's the thing. Let's. Let's talk about that part of it. Just don't do anything super. Yeah. About that and Ryan we know you pretty well, I think and you have the potential to do some really super weird stuff, yeah! Strip down naked and and run around the front yard. Don't potatoes that people don't be doing that. Very Fun life. Rollin party. and. He was trying to mask it as Ye Ryan. Wait wait. Wait hold on, Russ you got nude ran around in through potatoes at people. There is no proof of that and no one's ever even videoed it. Ran through a sprinkler system in a neighborhood and came back in and got back. Rotate is inside bombing table. How that's not true. There's A. There's no evidence of that so then. Anyway it sounds like an eyewitness. Call, they'll confirm the story right now. Don't do as I. Say do do don't whatever that is, they don't don't do. We know that you live in a nice neighborhood and It's a nice quiet neighborhood and everything Would it be out of the ordinary, or is this too much I? Let's say your new roommate has a pickup truck and in that picture a pickup truck. There is a pool in the back and he wants to lounge. Out. Truck is parked in the driveway. And he's gotTa pull in there, and he's out there on a Saturday afternoon with shorts that are way too tight, inappropriate for him has. drive-by! Toasting them with a Miller lights as they drive by. That'll be fine, right. You cannot do that in this neighborhood. The police will come. Make you leave curling snotty neighborhood. That's ridiculous I. Okay so I can't. Already on Tuesday night. I can't have a truck wed pool. Where where? Where's your house Nazi Germany? Drag Man. Man. You could. Probably have that full out front for about ten minutes with one of my neighbors. Call the COPS and they'll make you leave. What? Have you in the back of that pool. That truck bed and they have savannah. Come home from work, and you're sitting there drinking beer in her yard. Have the to the yard. took. A big old allegation knife out of her pocket and pop your pool I liked cans both floating in the pool and on the ground around the pool. Now I will say this writing coming up in an area where I had a job bad pool in my backyard. I don't personally mind, but my neighbors are definitely definitely. Definitely going to have a problem with it. Toned down for like thirty days thing. She's GonNa Save. You a couple thousand dollars. Yeah you all. Are you at the medicine worth it to slow down my rockstar lifestyle? Nobody's begging you to be here. Put out she's getting that. Lifestyle down, say where you're at in your bed and breakfast with the door open and you have to take a flu in front of Your Bank doesn't bother me at all. Actually they would say to which. Is that enough. It is awkward in the morning. I have to now when I get ready. To all the lights are off at four thirty in the morning, and that's not I have my me time in the bathroom. Just hoping she's asleep and can't hear the sound. and. There's no door on the bathroom. Oh, yeah. I think I think she's doing like a little kid when they're scared of a monster cheese, pretending to be asleep and is not really. Remember doesn't have a door and her bathroom either, so you gotta be careful when you're there. Yeah, but it's on the other side of the house. We got system. Here in the kitchen there ain't no door on my bathroom IPC all in the kitchen. To put clothes on. PUT CLOTHES ON. Can we get? It can buy like a shower curtain and was. Set it up and. Like I. Mean You come out here today? And then you can look around, and then you can like honestly. I'm not begging you. I'm just trying to be a good friends you because I. Know You have mental problems as well as financial ones Trying to be nice, that's all she's truth comedy there. It's funny because it's true. All Right We're. GonNa take a little bit of a break. He was sick for another segment. Very yeah, I very good by the way you can see Savannah at gator land every single day almost every single day. I'd follow her on her great social media, 'cause she does a really good job with it. Don't go anywhere. You're listening to the mosh the morning. Take. You! Work out. Are you ready to work together to create a healthier life? or You could just say Alexa play Real Radio One. Oh four point one an I heart radio. Hey you're listening to the monsters. The Morning Radio one point one broadcast live on Iheartradio Rawlins along with Angel and Ryan and Savannah all here today. Man I got I got some that I think is a really good idea for you are up for a good idea. Always up for a good idea especially when it comes from you. Listen. This this I think this could make you some money. I think it'd be a great idea and it kind of ties into what's going on now. This is one of my news stories from overnight, and it says here that they're Kinda surprised. Because of everything has happened for the first part of this year. Parents who have money, okay, the ones that have money are spending a fortune on sending their kids to luxury summer camps right so like like dope. Spend whatever it says. Parents are spinning up to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to send their kids to a luxury summer camp just to get rid of them for a while because they've been home, you know and some of these people who have money like here I'll pay whatever just get rid of the year. The kids okay so savannah would if you were can't can't counselor. Savannah Camp Counselor. You did a live school of Crock right? So you have a bunch eight year olds, or whatever you know, six seven eight year olds and they come to gator land, and you give them the the premium camp. You know experience and. You become a camp counselor taking care of Seven and eight year day. What are they? Where are they going to sleep? At? What are they gonna eat I mean I guess they get you hot dogs. But where are they going to? Put some out there. Making a real nice experience. Make it rough. I mean look you know the kids don't know the difference. I like camping and the parents are willing to pay one hundred and fifty thousand dollars just to get rid of the kids. Got, to make sure they don't get eaten, I mean you can. You can pretty much guarantee. They won't get eaten right. You you might have is an area gator land where you could do like a camping thing. Why there is an down for your plan, only as like, I can't be the only councilor. There's gotta be more counselors. League knows looking for work is Ryan homes. He Ryan homes meats Some extra incomes by his house, so you could be the main counselor and you, can you? Can you tell Ryan and his girl? She needs the help out, too, so like they're. Living with you a gator land taking care of the seventy eight year olds. Brilliant. Sounds like a good plan at all. No. The plan I was with you up to the Ryan home homefires. Yeah I. Agree on this. I don't have kids and I have no idea how to take care of them or watch them what they need in life. But if I get a whistle, blow the hell out of a whistle, stop doing angel. Can you imagine if you? Had your little. Your kids home for a while. You. Imagine a parrot. Go listen. I'll pay a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, whatever just to have a month of I can't imagine I I mean well look good for those parents that have those resources and have that kind of you know. be able to stroke. That kind of check because that's just amazing to me. One Hundred Fifty K for kids summer camp for a month. Yeah for the month, let's. Split it fifty eight hundred dollars for the month, so for one month things kids we in the, and here's the things they don't have to spend the night. They just drop them off at your your place. you take him to gain land. And and house like the worst eighties. Hannity ever drive them in the back of the pickup truck the pool. It'll be ready to go savannah super. Super Counselor Right, and you're taking him gator land every day I'll get. Is this take care of them and beat them? The school hard cracks, a hundred and fifty grand. And that's per kid. Let's say you get ten kids at one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a man. You're rolling in the dough. I, here's the thing I unlike most most probably parenting trend right now I am very much top love, hard core sort of parent, and you wouldn't think it, but I'm very very much the disciplinarian. Because because, so you play that role. That's your right, and then you got the push over. That's Ryan who's trying to get. Seek their approval of all the kids, and so you guys balance each other out. Yeah Man. I I made somebody crowd the other day. There's a little voice standing that Defense Watson Uh seat alligator. Bigger so far up is no I can't even see his knuckle. Out. You know. You can't be watching your book on the fans right now, so. We're GONNA. Do it that vulgar. Not You haven't thought this whole thing through. This is a really good idea for you guys right? The camp a summer camp. The other thing that you need to take in consideration right so if you don't necessarily want them staying a with you guys per se I know that somebody in that group already has a space available to them for a month. They put rent on and they could. They could house the kids. They're already the tiny house. They're already small kids. So the house. You can house a small kids in the tiny house. Yeah, you get ten of them in there. Like is saying you guys are rolling in the. That's a whole different kind of summer camp, tiny house, naked pedophile neighborhood. Survival camp teacher survived man. Teach them how to run. Ugly Them Up. As It says here. The parents are spending a fortune up to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars per kid for the month just to get just to get either. Kids were month because they're up to here with their kids, kids have been home since January Savannah you can rake in here. Just think about it, just three kids. Well three. Money that that'd be. Born in two thousand dollars. Just take him to take the gator camp every day special. But what if I don't like them? I only like some kids. That's. That's the hard part. Yeah, if you get three thousand dollars extra, you give three real snotty kids that are talking back in calling you names and pulling your hair and play with your makeup Oh, my God. Yeah that'd be. That would definitely be a problem, but for four hundred fifty thousand dollars. Hey. I gotTA. I am good with kids. That is a fact. I'm agreeing with texting There is a premise here. This is a this is the kind of premise. We just got a flesh this out. Write this script. especially. This is the kind of stuff that netflix's buys and puts up into an Netflix production waiting to happen. We just need to flesh this out savannah summer camp and she takes them the gator. Advantage. You're the star of it. You got side kick. That's Ryan. Who's you know just put upon? And he's like I said seeking. Boy Sky dressing boy. Scout uniform raising. Short. Seeking the approval of the kids, you guys are trying to figure out. How were you going to house? These kids Savannah? You're like Kinda. Do run in the summer camp now. Officially sanctioned by Said gator land. So you're kind of you. Know all you have to hide it from gator land. So they're trying to figure out. Why are you always bringing these kids? The gator land, and then you've got to figure out what to do with them afterwards and then Ryan's trying to not let them drink and whatnot and get into his beer. Stash a little mini fridge. This is this is a solid forty five minute production. You take the eight year old kid. You take him get his first tattoo. There's all kinds of cool stuff when you do. I like. Hey, you cut me and cut me in a little bit of the dough I'll teach art class to him. I'll teach them. Yeah. All right well. Let me. Run it by my boss is. A good idea, okay? And then today. Ryan today and check out your place. You might have remembered that we need Bob. Exactly like that. All right. You can see Savannah again almost every day tomato. Thanks for calling. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Other Friday and it's worse. Thursday? And today's world. So you guys it yet. Side later today. Maybe eight. Sure you check out our youtube channel gator land blood, and you could see a Nile crocodile eat an entire carcass of an animal. Thank Savannah. We'll talk to you Tamar. You're. You're listening to the the morning. and. Won't. Ask. Lead. In the morning, a real radio, one four point one guys live on Iheartradio. I'm restaurant with Angel and Ryan homes. Here today you have someone on the line Angel Yes We got Linda Online. She wanted to see if you can help with something Russ I. I can do that Linda how you doing. Hi Gosh I feel like I'm no special. Can It celebrity I've listened to you guys, no offense to. But I have listened to you guys that you savannah was saying each other Oh my goodness, yes, as long ago. yes, and I have been listening to Yeltsin then. Well. I was listening to the station. There's. No Savannah was on their loved it, and there's like fifteen. I was going to gain land tomorrow and my sisters down from away. Not asking for no tickets just wanted to see if there was a way, we could get to meet her. When you go there if you tell them, hey, you know. We came together. We WanNa meet Savannah. They'll call her and have her. Come over and say hi to you and she does that all the time. Okay, Great. If. You're real quiet, though you real quiet when you walk in and just listen. Sure you'll be able to hear. You can hear guess. She's been loud. Quiet I promise you. Very loud. Savannah's really loud. So if if y'all just quiet for like three seconds you'll be talking to the to the gators and the crocodiles. Yeah, you, you just tell them you're there and you WANNA say. They'll get her for you and she'll come over and say hey, she's she's great. Let's give you a hey. Well I love Y'all's radio station. You'll really pick me up in the morning and I just I hated that. You're not on seven days a week and all day long. We need a break. Even at five days a week we run out of stuff to talk about. Seven days it'll be difficult, right? Thank you so much appreciate it. Here's an. Thank you? Here's the email. I got this morning and then don't see what you guys think about. We haven't talked much about Fathers Day but this is from sandy sentence morning. She said Russ. Is it petty of me to not do anything for Father's Day? My husband, he, he completely forgot Mother's Day. He didn't even say Happy Mother's Day to me. He apologized the next day, but still he did nothing part of me. Me Wants to do something really nice for him to show him. How much I love him. He is a really good data and really great husband apart from having a terrible memory. The other part of me wants to completely ignore him all day long. What do you guys think? Monsters love the show and that's sandy so So, what do you because he got forgotten? She didn't do mothers as one of those ones that. You. You don't WanNa forget, but he did What do you think Give them a taste of his own medicine or the you know be. Be a good perfect, yeah! Don't don't be a petty jerk. Be Be an example of the way you would like to be treated. Not Not you know because he'd get him back like that, then he's always going to have it on you well. You did it to me. Actually what she does is goes over the top and just gives them the most amazing father's Day. The most amazing gifts goes out and rents. The Corvette for the day goes. Gets I mean just I mean just have them have a father's day that he's like that. He will never forget and at the end of the day. Just be like remember Mother's Day today right right. That is the best thing to do because she says he's a really great data. Really awesome husband. He has a bad memory. Just show what it feels like to be remembered and to be treated like that and yeah I. wouldn't when he forgets again next year. She's GonNa be even more mad whenever you tit for tat usually is not. It doesn't make you feel good I don't. Know I know now and. It was at one to one mistakes. This dude made out of all the mother's Day I mean, or is it, or is it always every mother's Day? He forgets, or is he a guy like me where he's like look, it's a made up holiday a hallmark holiday I. don't care what other don't get me anything. I bet if she did nothing he wouldn't even notice. For father's fathers okay, I'm not a dad's his father's day important to you guys. I mean I. I'd like to see my kids on father's day other than that I. Don't expect to get anything. It's not like you're wanting anything. He just wants to your kids and give them a little hug and tell me Love them and Yeah, we've been conditioned for that. We've been conditioned as men to expect the I mean just the least amount the bare minimum angel stuff for this holiday we over. I mean this is decades and decades and decades of how I don't even know how long has been around so. Always dads and grads so. Did. We would be lumped in with graduations. We didn't even get this like this year. Because of the Kovin because there's no graduates. Have you noticed again? The uptake of just straight up father's day commercials and they're and they're wanting you to give this staffers like. Man. I think sandy should be the better person. Show me an incredible father's Day, and like Angel I think it was giving a little wink. Remember Mother's Day make sure. That's okay. Yeah, don't say it in a mean way. It'd be like a bitch about it little like hey. Remember Mother's Day next year the whole time just putting up a balloon like. All of a sudden, she's going make this. is going to be better like this. You Know we gotta do. You GotTa do Goodhart. Be the better person with a good heart. Hey, Angel, as And Ryan as well. How much do you think that your like Your Dad do? Do you think your? Have you caught yourself yet. Doing things like your father. And there's a list of here things that. You'll start doing to be kind of like Your Dad, and I'm curious how many you actually are doing. Angel you think that you're anything like your father I certain things I know I can recognize. That I am, but it's remarkable. I'm like I know. There was a point in my life where my dad just looked at me and was like wasn't sure if I was his son right right because how different we are. For certain things there is. You know the way that we enjoy listening to music and certain specific things that are very similar, right? How about you have you cut yourself saying stuff like your dad or do anything like your dad yet? What's funny? The traits I have of my dad because I wasn't around him that much right, but like there's just a version that seems to be genetic of being crushing. And And he he never like. He. My Dad can live in total poverty and be fine with it. Like you like Steph doesn't matter to me I. I have that in me. Have you ever have you ever caught yourself actually saying something that you remember your dad saying you, too. And it comes out of my mouth I. It's just like Herald. Let the governor. That's my dad's thing. You Know My dad always. Care Harelips Governor I. Don't even know what that means. Let me he always used to say. I had that moment with the little one getting on them about cleaning up the rooms or something and I don't remember the phrase, but I. It's coming out of my mouth and I started laughing like I've tried to be stern with her and same with whatever it was, and I started laughing because. Because I was like. Oh my God, that's my dad's words. Well, it says most men end up kind of becoming their dad usually about h. thirty-seven. They're saying is when as hitting here. Here's some of the signs that you're turning into your dad, which is perfect, because if others as this Sunday. If you didn't know so okay when you start really enjoying grilling like really seriously enjoying it. Yeah, so yeah, the check number one I and my dad used to love to grill to. That's like a guy thing to put stuff on. The grill puts the fire. That's That's very much a dad. Thing number two. Okay, these are the things that we are turning it into your dad, and kind of reflect on that for father's Day You'd rather fix something than just replace it. I don't i. don't have that gear. Again in growing up. This is the thing seeing my dad consider himself a homemade handyman and seeing projects out should normally just take maybe a couple of hours or maybe an afternoon. Stretched out for like three months. We would find a piece of art to put over it. My Dad would break three things trying to fix one. Now get the one fixed within. There's three other things that. Yeah. I'm not fix fix instead of replace guy. Dealt and properties and he instead of paying money to get these properties professionally of wired for electricity and other things, yeah, the man he could do it himself, and it never looks good the not even once, and he would do like one time. He needed to get under the house, but a professional really should have gone under this house. Up Bearing himself alive hotel. With his legs, sticking out of the ground, like the wicked witch of the West. And the only reason like he had somebody working with them, but they were working on the roof, and they had headphones in yeah, and the only reason it was like the guy needed to get a beer from from the roof, and he saw the legs of my dad and had to pull them out. By putting a rope around his waist. With a pickup truck. And, that's like like a normal day for my dad like that's like the kinds of shenanigans. He would get into trying to themselves. How about this and I you know what now that I'm about to read this one? I I got caught doing this this morning. And that is either telling your dad jokes or telling dad jokes. But I I. Try to one of my dad's jokes this morning, and that is my dad has when he was alive, he had a he had a rental company and he has this business card in the business card is at rollins. Read all on one side when you fold. It looks like a twenty dollar. Bill Right. I found. My Mom gave it to me yesterday, and so I had crippled up and I put it over by Ryan's death just to see if he would try to pick it up without telling you know. And I'm like I'm doing mmj. Okay? I'm doing what the ADS dote but Gotcha. Yeah down and rescues always cleaning and stuff rights. I used to clean working space and I get up I. Get here this morning and I'm like. Oh, snap, I must have dropped twenty. Hold it up things. Yeah, so yeah I catch myself doing my dad's jerks time so I'm slowly becoming my dad that way. How about you Ryan? Do you does your? Did Your Dad tell jokes all the time and they're the worst joke. You tell those same bad jokes i. don't tell the same bad jokes, but I tell jokes in the style of glass. which is terrible for me. I've got this awful sense of humor because I. I Love Dad, jokes man. I don't know I. Can the I joke I? Ever learned was a joke. My Dad said and it was about okay. Three guys are walking through the desert right, and they they. They all brought one item. The first guy brought a bottle of water, so he could drink the whole time. Second Guy brought a fan, so we cool himself off. Third Guy brought a car door and they said hey buddy. Why did you bring a car door to said because if it gets hot, I can roll down the window. At third grade. The jokes that my dad would do and. And he would do a lot of puns and he would rap a lot. Yeah, so you've cut yourself doing that, so you are slowly turning into that. How about you? Angel? You Tell Your Dad's jokes or do you or do you have dad jokes, you tell? Dad Jokes per se that that are from him but I do get a element on my sense of humor from him and. Like you know for example, videos of people falling down like I can sit down, sit and watch the youtube wormhole of just compilation videos of people falling. They're not hurting themselves per se, but falling down, and I'll laugh and laugh and I know that when I showed them to him, that gets him in the Gut and makes him laugh as well so our sense of humor for certain things about the saying these are these are signs that your turn into your dad right around here for for father's Day. for all the guys that are listening. Do you. Do you tell your kids go? Ask your mother. Your. Have you caught yourself doing that? Ask Your mother that. Now now now. Because in, my situation is a CO parenting, so nobody ever a situation where? That can be done instantly now what we've done now when we have the girls at the House and with Bob I do find myself kind of deflecting and saying hey to run that by bobby. Make sure that's cool that kind of thing. Yeah, I guess to an extent. Yeah, that's that's what it's evolved to yeah. How about the way you grunt when you get off? The couch and I caught myself doing day. My Dad. Old Men Grunt yesterday. I just bent over and I stood on Oh. What was that? Too early for this I do it and I and I think I'm listening to my father, and then Oh. My God I caught myself doing this the other day muting the. Like. You know if you're watching. TV commercials on and you just don't WanNa. Hear it. I don't want to hear it and I'm like Oh God. My Dad used to do that, they can. Lead to do that? That's just me okay, here's one the texting lighten up with dad jokes and I do remember my dad doing this and I do remember as kids. We thought this was the funniest thing. What's your favorite kind of cheese? Cheese. Over. My Dad used to do this dumb poem all the time that they thought it was the funniest thing in the world. It was like gene gene made a machine. Frank Frank pulled the Crank Art Art Lit Afar, blew the whole. Damn thing apart. Not Even A. Stupid, but it's been stuck in my head for thirty years. I can't get it out. Yeah. Well, we says here. We all slowly becoming our fathers whether you like it or not If Your Dad's around around enough I, mean I. Self centered my brothers. Listen is almost a horrible. But yeah, no I see in myself, which is which is the most frustrating thing in the world? I literally fight against it like I'll get curmudgeon and I'm like don't do it. Ron. Just be happy and smile at life now I just bracelet and. My Dad whatever you know. It's just you know. It's just the way that it is so you're not scared of it now I. Just we laugh at it I'm like Oh my God! That was a Rehman see you know like I'll say something to marry A. See I'm afraid I'm hoping I have the genes for my hair from my grandfather, and not my dad, because my dad has hair, but he has the definition of bald spot. Yeah, and he was in his fifties when he when when I was born, so he's always been like an older dude and I just remember the day the Saddest Day. was. He bought hair and a can yeah, and he just sitting there in the liver. Of the trailer that we lived in. Spraying black spray paint on his head. Yeah, that was awesome. Remembered was out. That was a long time ago. I think I fully something to do with the paint was making people sick I can imagine it was hair and a can. Spray paint. The guy came up with it. I think he's also the guy that came up with the. With the the fishing. What was that called pocket fisherman? Ron poop I believe a pocket. Fisherman sounds like. It was the greatest thing ever. The pocket fisherman was this little thing and you open it up and you could go fishing anytime. You want to and Ron. Appeal invented it and he was an inventor and I believe he's the guy. Who admitted that spray on hair. and. Market it. He probably marketed it. I I just run pope feels. Is Ron Ron Cal. Is that the same guy? Be. Run and his Buddy Co.. It did not look like hair I remember seeing the commercials I was there the day my dad saw the commercial. They sprayed it on a wall and the wall looked fuzzy right. Okay. And my dad gets it. No, it was just black paint. It's stump stump real bad. But it made him look good right now. It did not. Do well one day you'll be. It'll be you in front of the in front of the Mirror, spray and hair and your. It'll be little nano robots that put hair in my head. It'll actually work. All right. When we come back? We have legal questions. for a Jeff Kaufman who was going to tell us a for legally screwed or not. I have a couple already. If you want to send a couple more, you can, you can text them to us. At Seven, seven, zero, three, one, seven, seven, zero, three one, and we'll ask Jeff Kaufman no goanywhere. You're listening to the module the morning. GotTa do better. We know there are specific evidence based reforms that if we put in place, today would build trust save lives with not showing increasing farm. Those are included in the point centric leasing task force report. That Cubans Emerson's. Yes. well, the might of the monsters mornings radio one up four point one broadcasting live on iheartradio. Rollins along with Angel and Ryan Homes Jeff. Kaufman, here with us today jets at work now how you doing, Jeff. I'm doing good I. showed you for the viewers I showed some of the the big photos that we have. Goal those are paintings of those are the covers of the upcoming Jolly Jane. That looks really cool. Who did that? To number yeah. Yeah he does. It showed the other ones Jeff. Check it out by the way if you're on our youtube channel radio monsters on Youtube these with the cover for the upcoming. Yeah Jolly Jane. This is like the second. Graphic novel and those are the basis on the wall there is that a little clue of anything or is that? Just for our artistic, A. Clue. Beard. It's not not saying anything, but you know Ryan. Kidding no, we. GotTa take it out. Yeah, I'd they? We're GONNA do some more writing today Someone sent me this earlier. Jeff and I know you probably have some legal stuff to to go over. But this was set and actually said. Please don't say my name. been listening for a long time. says that I recently read an article about how minorities get lower settlements, offers, and liability cases and claims, probably because they They think we he's. This person is African American We'll just take anything is there is. There any way in the section that you talk about today, you could ask Jeff about this. is a true that lawyers are not working as hard on cases for minorities I saw that on the news. How can I make sure this doesn't happen to me? well Here's the problem depending on whether you hire one of these fast food restaurant, not as an attorney You know those attorneys that do a lot of TV advertising. You know where thousands of thousands of cases you know. Yes, your case could be lost in those groups, but that's not based on whether you're white or black. Now I do agree that. I heard one attorneys say one time and I was really disgusted when he had I had heard he had said I. Wish I had more white clients. And he said because you know juries tend to give more money towards Caucasian clients, and I haven't found that but I. Think I think certain people are I. Don't WanNa call race. Yeah, they're racist. they. It's a disgusting concept, but yeah, there there are people who are racist, and if your Jury Bay of a lot of Caucasians or the possibility that they will look at somebody differently but firmed. If you're lawyers acting differently, you know that that's just wrong. Your lawyers gone back and you should let him go. but I would say half my clients. I think about half. My clients are African American or Spanish I don't. I don't normally see that's the difference. Do, I think that people can be racist. I think that could be racist teachers racers attorneys racist. Police officers I think it says it covers the gamut. Jeff. Kaufman is with US and Jeff Kaufman. You know him for a long time. He's been our show for a long time, but he's. He's a personal injury attorney. When you need dot, com is how you get, hold of him, or if you're in a fix, dial pound five four six. He's got that. Know, you're on here in a way as a way to advertise what you do for a living, but you brought them up. There are there are people that advertise on television, and you're just constantly see in on, and and consciously how much money they're making for for you know for their clients, and then constantly seeing them you know flying in jets, and everybody's thanking them for being wonderful people and all this stuff. Like how do you? How can you? What what would you? What should you look for or not? Look for when you're picking a personal injury attorney Jeff obviously. We want people to pick you because we know you in and I I personally cases you've handled, and you take care of people, but but. With all these commercials that you're and dated, where like how do you? What should be determining factor of? In. My opinion when you when you put something like I've settled. Says you know where that I won't discuss that? Why does the fair at the bottom of all those things that says the same thing results not typical. So why am I telling you about a million dollar case if that's not my typical result, unless I'm intentionally trying to deceive you and I i. don't think that's appropriate. Like I'll never discussed a past settlement with somebody and we. I'm very proud of what I do for my clients. The first question you ask is who actually going to be my attorney, and that should be before you sign a single document. Who's acting representing me because I can tell you this if somebody re if I go to attorney I. Don't WanNa know about this big head. Who owns the company I WANNA know the exact guy who's going to be responsible for my file. And and that's what I'm talking about I when I head, I'm talking about the head. I'm not talking about somebody's. Head size which. Size at onto the billboard. I'm just asking questions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have handled you. Handle your cases right Jeff. Yeah can I handle all of our cases in fact, Chris and I were arguing over a case last night Craig's actually headed out to a mediation right now as we speak, you know we don't i. don't need seven hundred cases a month. I just want enough that I represent these people myself and a lot of people don't do that and I used to be at a firm where we would do and I owned it. It and we would do. Eight hundred tastes is a month and I and I left. That's not me I wanNA represent people again, and that's what we're doing so I feel pretty good about it. And when client comes in I, actually sign every check. You're not gonNA to have an account. Sign it I'm the one who and if I don't like it. I'll call the line and say hey, what do you think? So you know there's a certain pride in your work and you're not just running a business. You're actually helping people. That's why when we brought up the thing with racism about how some attorneys would rather have more white clients, you know. I'm kind of disgusted by that. I had a client come African American pie coming the other day. That I WANNA make sure. I'm not priority I, said. You're my client. That made sure priority, right? It's a tough call with. Here's a question over the Texas in a divorce spouse entitled to any of the monthly funds from the a disability. Do you know if if that's the case or not? normally your va benefits are because they they deal with. Your medicals aren't aren't covered, but what happens is that you have to make sure that that is in the final order in a divorce you know sometimes takes that money into consideration with living costs and things like that, so you gotta be careful. Make sure you go with a good divorce attorney I also gonNA. Tell you something about divorce. Attorneys don't fight over nonsense, or you're just going to give all your money to the attorneys represent you. Both attorneys aren't cited as hell when you decide to fight over. We're fighting over the cat well. That's cover a couple of statements, so it'd be careful you know, try to try. It'd be good to each other because you're going to have to deal with each other later in life especially with kids. Hey, jeff is any of that stuff. Ever considered like wasting the court's time like a judge you know. A lot of stuff to do, and if you're argue over silly thing, silly things that don't matter is there a? Is there some sort of I? Dunno rule or something where you just can't waste the court's time. I used to judge is like to yellow to every once in a while, but in family court. They expect it's nonsense, so that's probably the reason I don't do it anymore. Because I remember getting yelled at Judge for like forty five minutes, and then I was able to show him. I said No. This is the other side doing this and he just looked over at this other attorney goes. Don't do that again. there. I don't WanNa say they expect the people to lie in that courtroom, but it seems a lot more open than usual. He just waste a lot of time and money in arguing about silly. Money I mean you know I mean how you of it is. What how many times? No actually never really had any bad. Issues in court other than the one but I mean like all the other is easy. But yeah, it's it's not fun. All all it takes is one. One bad one What else happened with you? What other advice you want to give people these times legally were. Okay, here's the big thing, even though I basically personal injuries which are actively involved right now. You'RE GONNA. Do not take nonsense alone. It's a lot of people wanNA give you money right now and high interest rates whatever you do not far off your credit card because that's the eighteen nineteen percent. You know a lot of times you go well. I gotta pay. My mortgage I gotTA. Do pay my credit card contact. Pack them. They're already extending payments out, so don't take extra money to make payments that they're already willing to extend out for you. So be careful with that. That's good. Yeah, that's good advice, go! Jeff is right. There's a lot of people that are falling into that trap, and they're doing these like mass e mailings, and these mass males, and then make it so simple. They're like. Hey, you could be you know preapproved, or whatever the and and you're so desperate to get that money in. You're not looking at the finer details of these. These deals that they're offering you and they're looking at eighteen percent twenty percent on some of these. We had a couple of the other day when I was like damn. Painful because people call me all the time. They're going well. I o fifty six thousand on my credit card and I'm like, did you? Did you get all this stuff they go? We'll no I took loans and I, because they sent me a check in the mail and a lot times. They'll send you a check and go. Oh, you can catch this for a thousand dollars, but on the back it says at eighteen percent. And this it just multiply and multiply, and then you have extra late payments, and all this other nonsense do not take caught in the credit card trap. It's painful and I. I seen it ruin marriages I've seen it I've seen it separate families I've seen suicides because of it. Of boy did at all costs. Yeah A-! Going Right Home Christopher Jeff Kappen. You can get hold of it when you need us. Dot Com all right, so you don't get a lot of debt, obviously bad idea, but let's say there's a guy who has a bunch of student loan debt, right? A Lot. Yeah, and he did this a while ago. And he did the student loan debt that he took on like around sixty thousand dollars. But it fixed the or sixteen sixty thousand dollars. and. Let let let's. At the. Yeah thing he's using that. That knowledge that He. Used for law school is. Okay so at the time they couldn't throw you in jail for not paying your student loan debt. Am I can't and I go to jail? Even though that wasn't a thing then. If no debtor's prison anymore that that was something that happened in England and some other countries. You can't go to prison for not being able to pay your bills now if you have money and there's a judgment against you and your in contempt of court, a judge could hold you in contempt, but I have never seen anybody held in. Could you know gone to jail because they owed some money? Now that the way, it isn't some. Okay, but what about this? At the time you could declare bankruptcy on the student loans, and now you cannot, but I signed up when you could declare bankruptcy on it can. I declared bankruptcy. Sometimes sometimes you can get out from under it, but it's really difficult. some of the lows are being forgiven I know there are certain grants out there that forget the blown it's. It's just one thing. A lot of people don't realize I worked my way through college. I waited tables for forty hours a week instead of making long and some of my. My friends showed like a hundred two hundred thousand dollars I, didn't WanNa do that because I'd rather have to say. This got a little worse worse grades and didn't know that money later and at the top call, so if you're out there, you're listening you. Go borrow this money and schools will give you. That money can't wait to throw that money at you and. I would say that the really offensive. It's as little criminally, but you know what Guy John. And? That's why you owe sixty thousand dollars the. Rest. They've made it so easy a button. As here. Forever Yup. What about? What about semester of law, school cost you? That, that's the one that's where most of the money comes from. Fifty Four. You're going to law school. Berry, Berry. Start. Fifty thousand dollars a semester. Look Very University. Dairy? If I, if I would've gone full on at that school, I would I would have been I think somewhere around six hundred thousand home i. That's quite day. That's insane. Online zone. ORLANDO ORLANDO IS FM. You and that's a great thing. That's a state college and a lot of people thought that was a lot that was going to be the minority law school. Well guess what a lot of Caucasians are going, because it's a state college and you know at the same education, you would get it any other state college, so they have the choice trying to save money and go to a public college because it's. Three. Thousand Dollars for. I I got friends that are like. Between six and eight hundred thousand dollars in debt and started their their. First two years in law as a lawyer, making like thirty two thousand. When you're a lawyer. You're instant millionaire. Dollars Right. Yeah. That's like A. Conservatively I would say that would be about ten years of salary for an average lawyer, so you know beat. That's ridiculous, but if you'RE A. Personal injury situation you do WanNa Call Jeff Coffin. If you're in a fixed dial, pound, five, four, six, or just remember when you need us, dot com, and if you want to get a copy of either one of the graphic novels that we wrote or any of the graphic novels from big city comics, good a big city comics dot com. That's big city. COMICS DOT COM. I'll see a little bit later on. We're going to finish up the second book and I think we need to add a little more little more homes. What do you think? Let Them O. Rien at one thirty. One all right? We'll talk to you later. You're listening to the march of the morning, very. Don't want to go so far to say this is what we're here for. Four, zero, seven, nine, one, six, one, four, one real radio, one four point one. Amount Bull? Angel out of me, run at Angel but. I do have a gift. Shout out to our our caterer. Our mortgage champ. Yeah, we got crafts services. My Wife's still waiting for work. You know because there's no conventions and she's a a paramedic. She doesn't work on the ambulance any longer. She used to work on the ambulance. She retired from doing that. She just paramedic work like at conventions and graduations and. People aren't things where people are and none of. That's going on now, so she has no work, so she? She's like my work is to make sure you guys are fed and she watches all these stupid like like cooking shows but thank God she does gives comes up with all these ideas of stuff to make to eat as she just made these huge. Cuban sandwiches this morning and I know you're trying to flaunt your Cuban Sandwich and my face and Like I know feel like I must have something. Out To my lady, who point to come up here with the girls, and brought me one of the finest a breakfast burritos and saw so that's available, and I had a wonderful breakfast. Myself, Sir that's. Nice to have someone who is thoughtful I mean I mean. If you've ever been with someone who's not thoughtful, and then you're, you're with someone who is super thoughtful. What a difference! Right! Absolutely one hundred percent and it's and it's. It's one of those things like you think that you know Oh. You think that your thoughtful, or do you think you've been in relationships that someone? That's thoughtful until you actually are with somebody that is that way and just just genuinely has your best interests at heart, and that is that is life changing. For. Sure for for sure and yeah, so anyway shut out to Mary mcguiness. And like the portion cooked. Cooked all night long. That was fresh. Yeah, I got here this morning. smells. Good but no one was in the kitchen I was like that was in the Crock pot all night. Long I'M A. crock making guy something special in the morning. So know. Whatever eaten at nine o'clock in the morning. Sandwich sounds crazy to some people. I guess, but I've been. I've been up since three thirty. So you know it's. It's good now. Did you see the I had to laugh about this a little bit, but you know if you don't laugh at some things as much as bad subs going on in the world, it's still okay to take a little parts of it and GIG landed. They're trying to make it a little bit easier to to digest, but now of course shooting is not funny, but there was a shooting at a protest in New Mexico on Monday and these guys were trying to tear down this the these sculptures. Statues yeah. It's a fascinating list of the statues are coming down nationwide. Yes, Spanish can keystone or I. Guess this guy in this particular area in New Mexico he. They had a statue of him, but I guess he was known for like killing people and chopping off their right foot. You know if they were male and I mean just really not a good guy. And and so there was a militia that one or to protect the statue, and our other people that want to tear down the statue, horrible thing, and then they showed all these different. You know confederate statues small over the south that are still up that people are wanting to tear down and you. Can have made me laugh. Because okay, so so you have these these statues of Robert e Lee that are still up and we all know. The South lost right like the south didn't win the civil war and all these monuments are still up and everything, and then the people that are supporting the people that are supporting the confederate flag and the rebel flag there also I've never seen one. That's got an Obama flag to the right or a biden flag. They're always trump the trump people and. I haven't either, but I'm just saying they're not. They're not Democrats. That's usually you're hard. Core trump guys that are really hold onto that confederate flag and I I love to imagine if we could take him. and Go back in time to meet Robert Lee and let Robert e Lee. No, Hey, by the way not only is he big on the confederate flag? He loves the The King of the Yankees which is Donald Trump Donald trump is so yankee front even funny. Robbie Lee would have affected. Like women, the dude from New York, to talked with with the. With the AAC he's got like. A Yankee accent like you're like you are behind the biggest Yankee in the world I think he's Kinky. Ain't nothing southern about Donald, trump, but these people. These people that love the confederate flag love the was the king of the Yankees Robert e Lee would be match all just so you know. Think about that. Yeah, I mix them to world. I mean really there's no way a billionaire from from New York City is not who you're. Southern folks would have been war shipping back in the day the confederate flag day. I mean you can use logic all you want. It doesn't work. You can get facts and Statistics and. And they'll be like no. that. That's the mentality of Robert e Lee would be so mad at y'All for worshiping the Yankee Man. He had the thing where he was like. Don't make statues I. Don't want them. And who's that Robert E Lee already league? He's the one who likes said. Let's not make statues to the confederacy, and all that and everybody just chooses to that, but most of the statues went up during the civil rights era like in the sixties they were they were meant to like. Scare black people like a scarecrow. Like, it was like look. Here's the monument. This guy remember slavery. We do it again, Jim, crow laws like that's when most of the statues went not. They went up for racist reasons. They're coming down right now. You should come down. It's just makes me laugh at people that are so much went to hold onto the rebel flag takes us trump trump people, and it's like you. You're worshiping the guy that is Super Yankee like what what are you doing if you're really into the southern heritage, you're really Mr. Rebel, flag and Mr Confederacy Look at what you're doing. What did you say I'm sorry? I was just saying that What what's funny is and you're bringing up that point right so it and people are texting right away. Oh, it doesn't erase the history. It doesn't erase the history and you're right. It doesn't erase the history, but the where does history belong belongs in a museum? Yes, I mean you like you could believe or you, can you? You want to have all those things. That's cool right, but we're all human beings. We're all trying to get along. We want to suppress racism. Right? What doesn't any? All Against Racism, aren't we? Don't we all want all right? So there's a part of our society. A segment of people that that is a I mean just hordley offensive to and we. Yeah we gotTA. Smithsonian really put them in a museum. Put them in a museum, but that that kind of thing is, it's a power trip. Move to put this these of things up and you were trying to control the certain people that don't. That doesn't need to be done. You know right right, or at least when we come back. Angels going to bring you Mosser's sports. You're listening to the Macho the morning. Come on, you're listening to the modules mornings already four point one broadcasting live on iheartradio rose rollins along with reinhold announcement for Jordan era to bring him Mazar sports. Sorts heating up. Are. We think they are. Brought to you by monsters dot. FM Go to the website there and have that. Be One of the things that you check in throughout the day. Find Different things that are funny are humorous, and we'll post those there and You just have to be your daily distraction. The guys are the podcasts up. I find different things that I find humorous or distracting post that bear. You have you check it out yesterday post actually did really well. You guys were digging into a guy doing the crazy three sixty trick shot bouncing off the wall and just staring at the camera. The whole time I got couple of things I'll be posting later on today. sports every now and then I grab one of these things and share with you. Have you guys heard of the The Nike Prototype called the Moon. The Moon Shoe I've not okay so. Icon Nike Prototype Moon Shoe and and and the Michael Jordan game us. Rookie shoes are there posted up for auction on the issue is the shoe that was basically the template for what would become the running shoe that. Basically launched in the early early Seventies. Things were put up for auction, so it was the Nike Prototype Mu and the MJ gained US rookie shoes, and they went up for auction just out of curiosity if you guys were speculating, how much do you think these things? These items went for an auction. Auction! At Sotheby's so this was the only option, so you know. but we don't get too crazy. Shoes go expect. Fifteen, hundred bucks pipped. Time. No. They're not going to souther BS. Fifteen hundred hundred dollars. That's the ticket. Oh. Well I guess I'll lose. said their game worn one. The one set of one of them is Michael Jordan game us rookie shoes and the other item that was sold as the iconic naked prototype moon shoe. Oh, ooh! been one point two million dollars. The Mousse use went for four hundred thirty seven thousand dollars M J US rookie shoes went for five hundred sixty thousand dollars. Both again pretty close. Yeah, so that's happened at Sotheby's. That's how they get down. Remembering this day, June seventeenth nineteen ninety-four. We talked about earlier. Failsworth vehicle skyrocket. Maybe not but today is the anniversary peop- people people I remember that happening is because we were on the air after that happened. people are buying the broncos like broncos. Everybody wanted to buy them then. Is, that true, or is that urban myths that we've said so much. That has come true well. I don't know ever really. Making the Bronco for a while rand was saying on be known before I. Don't know how you don't know this, but they're bringing the Ford back in Apparently, they're gonNA. Drop it on the day of OJ's birthday, but do seventeenth. Nineteen ninety-four. This is when you were watching and thanks to the guys. Correct me early when we're talking about it. The Knicks playoff game now. This is before they were dumpster fire of an organization. So the Knicks were in the playoffs back in one, thousand, nine, hundred four imagine that and the I remember right where I was sitting in my living room my house over off. Lee, road sitting there and watching basketball, and that chase came on and I couldn't believe the Oj. T chase you know spills out onto television and I the things I do. Remember is watching the basketball game. And then there's the box in the corner with the LAPD following in the Bronco to his house and everything people were on the bridge it the over. Cheering. Go Jay people were like cheering for him to get away within a fast. It was only like. A. High speed chase now the slow speed chase. That's a good friend that will drive you and high-speed or slow speed. Chase away from the cops for few hours. Yeah, that's you know. I got a boat. Way, I. Can't drive. Get Hide. The body were hiding the body together we got. NASCAR to announcements for the new inductees, the hall of fame and we've got to give congratulations to this young gentleman. I want to. Be Race car drivers, day. It's a great sport eleven th you. Know Race. As Junior. Junior that's when he was You know obviously a little dude. School that kid. It's amazing. everything that he's been through and still so much in in the public eye and turn. The and the stuff he's done with Nascar and stuff that he's done afterwards the content that he creates the podcast the shows that he does. It's been a lot of fun. I'm with you. out huge fan of his and I've always been by always kind of dug. What he what he did. You know I like the fact that he took the lead on the confederate flag. Thing knowing that you know about NASCAR fans. We're not going to agree with that, but he didn't care. He He denounced that and I thought that was pretty damn cool. the other guys that were included in the twenty twenty one class Mike Defense and read former also guys that are included in the Nascar Hall of Fame Class of Twenty, twenty one so congratulations or you shout out to all those guys that. Made it into the hall of fame and. We got hey angel. Did you see that we lost? The I didn't realize we lost this, but the the pro ball which we like to complain about and we like to. You know But we lost the pro bowl to Las Vegas pegase and that kind of pissed me off I'll be honest with you. As yeah like you wipe pick. Vegas over Orlando with, we're better than them. Okay, so from a perspective of that I, thought made the city look good, and I thought that. You know obviously you like the to the revenue. You'd like the tourist dollars like all that stuff and it was good. Look for the city. And even working a couple of the events leading up to the pro bowl. Did you ever go to a game? Now. I'm telling. Me and then the other part of it is when it came to them, actually working with local Let's say media outlets, or whatever the NFL Kinda does its own thing and we were you know they you know with like. Hey, we're doing this and we don't really need. You Right Fars as yeah. US But for for players. Okay Elizabeth picky to go to the pro bowl. You didn't make the Super Bowl, but we're anthony the pro bowl. It used to be okay. We will send you to Hawaii and they love that so now. It was Senator Orlando I think that'd be kind of cool right for if you don't get a chance to talk. Tough Ron, because think about it, though so the run of the bowl that we had here, we always had the kind of dicey weather rain. Yeah, but I mean okay. And I guess the The the stadium that the plane in Vegas plan is covered. It's covered brand news covered so I guess if you're player is okay. You WanNa go to Orlando or do you want to go to Vegas? Vegas is like we'll wilder. Your. Family. twenty twenty, one all star game as moved to the new Las Vegas stadium. It's I just had the name of the stadium here Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas and it'll be one week before the super bowl in Tampa plans include that the league will have the pro bowl skill, showdown and benefit championship NFL flag should end proble showed it skills game, and all that stuff are going to be down in Las Las Vegas. AN SIMULATION ANGEL! How how likely is it that you're going to have the the super bowl in Tampa and now Tom Brady and Gronkowski will make it to the Super Bowl I. Mean I know they're saying all those odds for so long, but. If you're right story right? Yeah, like that's the store you would right. That's one is definitely one of the storylines that you're gonNA. Follow for this season. Absolutely what what they do in Tampa Bay The others GONNA see how Kansas City do, are they? Are they going to be able to be repeat champions? We haven't had that in awhile. Yeah, honesty and the NFL. And how are any of them going to fight off to and the Miami Dolphins how? Easily they're going to barely knows is young and ready to go. No, no not gonNA happen. That team is still a tire. Fire needs a lot more to be. Put together there. I know I. Know You got to Watch Jersey anything. Magic's going to happen. You'RE GONNA eat your words you wait and see. Who is going to bring the power of the Lord? What you say that they are, we're going to eat our words. What is a what is a good outcome for you? Do you think that they go to the Super Bowl? Is that what you're doing right now? Are you know what I'm telling you right now at. They're making the offs. Who wants to take a bet? Do so you right now are willing to put some money down. The Miami Dolphins make it to the playoffs got silent. I I'll bet you ten. Night speaking of gambling, problem. Making! Twenty Big Man Oh, twenty. Bucks Twenty Bucks Miami, Dolphins make the UN. Take the I'll take your money to angel. Dolphins make it to the playoffs twenty bucks. Are you serious you really you really WanNa make that bet yes I am. I got twenty bucks. I gotTa kind of change on me. Oh Man I just. Feel January. Twenty boy! I genuinely feel like this. Is this kid's going to be on fire this year man? This is like the easiest money ever. It is not that Alabama kid was a superstar. The best quarterback that they've ever had in college then he got injured, but now is injuries. Healed, and he's better than ever. As a comeback is, turn around the Miami Dolphins and I'm GonNa take your money as A twenty from you as a gentleman and a gentleman Gambler, and sometimes you understand that you. Guys that you're betting against. The might be out of their depth. Trying to say might be caught up in the emotion of it all I. Respectfully will Not Take this back. But Yeah, you're right, we. Will all day. I got your money. I'm not a gentleman gambler and I will take your money all day very good. All right, so we're getting more and more information. They had a conference call. NBA and basically giving us more insight to what this bubble is gonNA. Look like here in Orlando, Ask these guys come down here to play this play. In the League David are silver. mentioned that he expects other players sue for with their own personal reasons not to participate, and they're going to try to accommodate that one of the things that's also been setup. NBA's going to create an anonymous hotline to report violations of Protocols in Orlando Citizens we've been deputized by the MBA. Diligent I for any NBA players. In Our city. If you're like Rachel's, and someone's not you know they don't have their mask on. You can call you bust them. As the CASTLEBERRY Sheriff, I will keep an eye on Rachel's just for the NBA. That's how I will frame that to my lady I gotTa do it for the for the team. So some of the things that are super interesting with this, so guys again could be tested potentially up to three times. When they start. To Orlando They're going to be quarantined. You take a task before you let into the bubble and and you know so you take the test to get put up an apartment by yourself. You pass the test then you get to go in. They've got common areas. They're going to have DJ's available DJ. Air Dj sets available to them and all that, but in the common areas they wear masks. The only time the guys won't have to wear masks is when they're actually on the court. Plane there's only going to be one row of team and coaches there. Those guys don't have to wear masks either during the Games. They're going to swap out the areas where they're going to be playing cards every day. The the deck of cards at they're playing. Get swapped out. Food Movies entertainment as all between the three hotels. They're taking three of Disney's hotels and their housing. Everybody out there, so it's a good idea to finish the season or do you think you should look wash and let's start next year? Do you think do you think is a good idea? All that money on the table. I'm Fan. If I'm being a being honest with myself and not just like I think all sports should take a pause, I think baseball. I think College Sports I. Think all of should take a pause I. Mean. We're seeing these numbers we're seeing we're seeing these guys show up. We've got. The Debbie has suspended taping. Because one of the wrestlers tested positive was, says after positive corona virus tests. It doesn't say it was a wrestler, but someone there tested positive for a covert, so he you know even wwe is suspended. Yes I. Get it I understand the contracts and I understand I. Understand the the the money part of all this I don't what I don't understand is the hurry to get all these guys back. and I'm more like I'm concerned with the collegiate players. We talked about yesterday. Ohio state players are having to sign basically a waiver that if they can track covert or whatever that they're not going to hold a school responsible for that. Yeah, so you know with those kind of things going on. Winds. Let's what's the hurt. I guess in waiting is my. Brown coming from I. Guess I don't know. I, don't know I know look I know we need entertainment and I know it would be beneficial distraction, but like with the movement, and all these other things going on there's. More pressing issues. I guess Gotcha Gotcha. The new photos of Tom Brady. Yesterday. What do you think about that? Homes here is It looks. Photoshop didn't homes He. Does look photo shop I. There's No way Tommy would put on that Jersey, knowing everything that this is just one giant episode of Punk the Tom. Brady is put on all of them. He knew about the pandemic look. Tom Brady is at the top level of our government. Okay, he's literally friends with Donald Trump. Donald trump or a close friends? You didn't think it got whispered in his eight. Look look timing for all right. We're GONNA get. WHAT DOES IT PANDEMIC COMING UP? We're just going to troll everybody, and then you'll be back in New England here fake and this is one this is. He's got a great sense of humor. That kid has a wicked sense of humor and. Playing a long long joke on all of US Patriot fans out there us. This is clearly photoshop. It's not even good photoshop, and pretty sure they used ms pay. Another Tampa Bay buccaneer news I don't know if you've got a chance to hit this, but this is pretty cool. Rob Gronkowski asked the Tampa Bay buccaneers. To, pledge money to help replace equipment of local high school. That lost all its gear in. May This is coming from. What is it pro football talk so basically Rob Gronkowski and the buccaneers have pledged to replace approximately eleven thousand dollars worth of equipment and storage space, and again him jumping. You know trying to help out the there So that's a you know a neat story and I think those are the kind of things that those guys can do during this time as we were talking about just adding those two guys. Automatically Tampa Bay is considered a contender. Right like a a as far as vegas goes people betting, having just having Brady and and Gronkowski on. The even with the just simple things as the scheduling this coming season. If they do play, this is going to be the most times that Tampa Bay is played on TV and I think in prime time slots since I think they won the Super Bowl. If I'm greg or something like that is what they were saying so Yeah, these guys yeah, adding those guys. It's into you know added interest to that team and added interest to this upcoming season seeing if he can pull this off as Brady, a system guy or is genuinely a good quarterback Gronkowski actually, did you? We touched you hear some of the stories coming out from the W. W. About Gronkowski. What about him? Apparently, he was a pain in the ass to work with on that. We're trying to teach them how to do. The falls and everything, and if Vince had to seventy year, old bits had to climb up a ladder, right and show him how to do a fall from the latter two two for one of these events Gronkowski was kind of a squeamish to those kind of tricks and stunts stuff like that. Really hurts actually. No I understood. We play him up and everything being being neanderthal, but when it came to actually doing the Andrew all things, he wasn't too keen to it if he. It's not what it looks like right? That's the whole point. Wrestling is actually super, choreographed and difficult to do those things. And Maybe, they've determined the outcome, but a lot of that stuff is is is really hard. But he is athlete at the top of the. He's a better athlete than anybody in that wrestling owe now you're just you just trying to be? An NFL player he's, he's more well paid bets rain. He's the athlete at the top of his game out of bodybuilder duke shorts. Tell that triple H. Sports all right now. You're listening to the mosh the morning. Got, to do better at some point. Protests started to win. And it's very important for us to take the momentum that has been created as A. As a country and say what's use this department? It is ten o'clock, and you're listening with the modules in the morning on real radio, one four point one and we are broadcasting live on iheartradio everywhere in the world. That has that iheart remember. Your Smart Speaker is a radio. You can tell your smart speaker to play Radio One four point one on Iheartradio, and it will do it for you. things a lot of things going on, still you know. As much as we want not either hear about it or talk about it, you can't watch the news without them. Telling you that the the Kobe cases are going up spiking Kobe cases left and right and I. Know You always think of hearing about it, so you know whatever we'll talk about it. Yeah whatever you? Put your head in the sand. It's cool but this weekend because of Kobe and because of. Rohner virus at all that this weekend for the very first time, stonehenge is going to broadcast a live stream of the summer solstice. Now what they were doing a big celebration. Rocks could do something and every year they would have thousands of people. They would have thousands of people that would come to this this big celebration for the summer Solstice, and you could see what happens is when the sun comes up. A directly is in line with everything that that you know that stonehenge. All has like a point to it, and the sun comes up right in the right spot, and they think that it has some sort of I don't of significance the people that put together Stonehenge, but for the first time you'll be able to watch it. Online because they don't want anyone coming out and and watch it in person. Wet It isn't in a big field. It's in a huge field, I've been there before. Stonehenge is pretty cool. Is it or is it like underwhelming when you get there? No, I did not find it over underwhelming at all. I have no idea. The Height No! I've ever seen anything does the gives the size of the proportions to those rocks any dishes so to me? For example they could be the size of football fields or Volkswagen's I don't know. I don't know if Super Taller than me or go up to my way way taller than you their way, Tyler about about double your size I would say about the double maybe more. They were big. Yeah, they were huge and when you see him, you're like how the hell did they do now they do show you when you go through the the little. Area Gift Shop area. They show you how they made it. They have a gift shop if There's a stonehenge gift shop. Ever show that in the pictures. Yeah, there's there's a there's a gift shop you can buy books. They show you how they believe they were able to do this and basically imagine this imagine if you have these huge rocks now they had to drag these rocks from a mountain that was really really far away, but they drag it there and they made a big mound of dirt right, and then you, you dig a hole into the dirt. And then they pushed the rocks into the dirt, and then got rid of all the dirt like they they it's it's a pretty cool process and how they did. It sounds horror. Work sounds like a lot of work. Build it near the mound where they got the rocks because they wanted it in this field, so they can have a lot to do back in the day. There's no Netflix's, so it's like hey, let's say. They need Wifi. Anyway. You'll be able to watch it for the first time this weekend. This Sunday June twenty first that that's their local times when they start in the morning and if you go to the stonehenge website, it's a live stream of the the summer solstice. New! been there already all the bad stuff you watch on Netflix, I'm not GonNa Watch. Your home done the. Ireland isn't that your home notices in England. That's an England. Yeah I was driving around the English countryside, and and we were looking for something else, and I, took a left turn and when I was there, and like Oh my God, that's their stonehenge like we ran into it on on accident, but the. Other good news from the overnight is that I know I know you love watching the US Open. The the US Open and Nathan's hot dog. Eating contests are both going to happen this year fourth of weekend, but both will be without fans so. In three sad duty to. In silence here the slurping. Yeah, you, you'll have the guys eating hot dogs with nobody cheering and I wonder if that's going to. Have you think you'll eat less without the fans cheering them on. Joey chestnut is more than likely. He wanted to get last year right like. Every year. So he probably is expected to win, only go come on, come on. What I do in my life. More. College well. Why can't we just move all sports to New Zealand? Is that not on the table. Let's all go to Zealand. There's no Kobe. Kobe. They have no new cases. They have no covert. They completely eradicated got fans. They can have so they've started back up like they have rugby with full stands, no social distancing no checking because they don't need to cuss while they did everything else correctly, and they haven't had a new covid case in over three weeks. Maybe they're the chosen people we didn't know. Zealand are the chosen people. Yeah, yeah, we could do everything right and and set the country down and have everyone follow the rules, and do all those things, or you're the chosen, or maybe the chosen people. Something happening Damn Cova Nineteen is. Started saying we're not talking about it. It's been a whole segment of Cova Da. Shut up. On on seven eleven seven Elevens, not GonNa have the free slurpee day like they used to. This! Cove in Nineteen Uncertainties associated with covid nineteen pandemic. Say, listen we can't do the. It's all over the only real suicides because of this. Yeah, well. Do you ever go and get your free. slurpy I did and I did it every time I did and I was like. Why am I doing this engine of it? There's like a line and it's awful and you're just in a seven eleven for too long. It's not a fun, and it's like I can buy a slurpee. SLURPY! Money. I guess probably about five years ago, and it was on seven eleven holding. Know what I don't even know. What A slurpee cost! These days I've had one forever slurpy money. Thirty five. Oh, I got back. On Free Talk, talk about was like. Yeah, we're giving out free Tacos, I will hit up like three. TACO bells really. Other. Here's another Cova. Warning Kobe warning here. You go write this down It says here that what you might not realize is one of the worst places one of the places that you can get cove. Ed and people don't know a realize it, or if you go into public bathrooms, and you go to public bathrooms that don't have leads for their toilets. When people flush, it puts, all those will particles, doodoo particles out in the droplets in the air, and that's the best way to sniff up so. How does this the grossest thing I think you've ever said I'm just trying to get you get the point across. Be Prey to be careful in public bathrooms because they're saying the toilets. If they don't have leads a new study, found that flushing the toilet can release a cloud of Corona virus droplets that are easy to sniff up twenty twenty two year I learned the term fecal shedding. Yes, that's that's not. I ever needed to now. I finally start because you. You're like you gotTA. You gotTA. Put the the actual live down the one. That's close on your toilet at least started doing that I'm like Oh, well! Did you feel better knowing because if you if you close to the little droplets can't get out. I never thought of it before I thought they were all just down the drain. I didn't see it as like a mushroom cloud of pitch, it's. Everywhere. Yeah, so they're saying that's very dangerous. Going into public bathrooms be aware of that. That's why people should wear their their masks in the bathroom. And then. People are a lot less willing to fly now. They said that you know given the chance of most people that were flying and going on vacations are just decided to go. Would driving vacations in their own state you know I am not flying. Why because an American Airlines and Delta dern Kovin stopped their alcohol. It says that. Airlines. Every one of them have stopped selling alcohol during. Flights can't get a drink on the plane anymore. I wouldn't be able to fly then really I am so nervous while I fly. You always get a drink. Yeah, I get I. Get drunk i. need something to calm me down otherwise. It was a little the little bottles as baby bottles. That didn't do anything during during the takeoff is the worst time for me like I if I'm fixing edge off rose. I'm I've done it before Franken. Bottles on says. Three of them have a party. Club American Airlines. We do this gimmie three of those. Be. Made me, mad. So flying like there's no, we already like. If he before taking off, it bothers you. Yeah, that's not the problem landing. Taking the taking off doesn't make sense. Yeah, the taking office. This giant metals heavy ass thing with all these people in it. It's GONNA suddenly. Lift into the air by what is essentially to me, magic. So that part, and then I'll always I'll with the dish that wants to look out the window the whole time. That's me. Yeah, like for for the takeoff. See what's going on I'm sitting there with my eyes closed praying. Probably looking a little crazy and probably not easing anybody else's anxiety, but yeah, the takeoff at an plus most airplane accidents happened in the takeoff, not the landing land just finally got big wings that guy really yeah. Taking off every bothers me is landing and I'm like Oh. Please downright this. Make it down I love when people clap like. I like this. This is job. This is what he's supposed to do like. One other pandemic, a story that I told you I wasn't going to talk about The restaurant industry now for three months. How much money do you think they? They believed? The restaurant industry lost in the United States of America. Forty billion dollars forty billion. What do you think Angel Twenty five billion? How about one hundred and twenty billion dollars one hundred and twenty billion dollars? It's hard to fathom, isn't it? I think that that many people you know. Get paid that many just really an amazing amount, but that's what they're saying here. In three months Expecting the loss was a hundred and twenty billion dollars, and that is Obviously go out to eat a lot. I was basically living the same because I was getting stuff delivered. Yeah, and that's still had a tip attached to it and service food, so it was more expensive so I felt like and I was doing it like my justification for getting food I was like well. I'm helping the. Yeah. I would say I. Tip extra headaches. I'm like these poor people haven't had enough. I think about it because you're having the other. Tangible. That would happen when you normally would go out to a restaurant right so if you're at the restaurant, you're there in the facility. You you know their. Their profit was never really on the food for a lot of these places. The Prophet was on the drinks. And so You know you're not ordering a couple of drinks with dinner whatever you're just ordering strictly food. That margin has gotten even thinner for them, I think. Yeah. That's what I just been drinking at home. When we come back from the King of Denmark Ryan homes to make his daily proclamation. Radio Radio Radio. Four point. Hey, let me thank you guys for taking time that text us at seven, seven, zero, three, one, seven, zero, three one is you're driving around town? You're listening to the show. You WanNa throw thought out there. You could do it at seven seven zero three win. It doesn't cost you anything and it's not like we. Do we just we read it on the air sometimes and sometimes tax you back, and you also need to remember that you're smart. Speaker is a radio. You can tell it to play real radio. One of four point one anywhere in the world, and they'll do it for you I'm Russ rollins along with Angel Rivera now. For Denmark, Ryan homes to make his day ovation. Your. Own. It's about some different. I don't know. Didn't work I didn't feel it. I didn't like it I didn't like the way it sounded like the way it felt coming out of my mouth. Good morning and happy Wednesday Hump Day out there for everybody. and. My Wednesdays been weird so far. Why it's been a good good morning we had we had good sandwich. Shows gone by quickly. What's wrong with you arguing with people on social media? Didn't know that required over there. About as I I talked and talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Where I help run a group. It's called a group where we all pretend to work in the same office, right? It's got one hundred and seventy thousand people in it now, and you guys fake argument. No, here's the thing to tell me. Tell me if we're wrong on this. Myself and some other comedians run this whole thing, and it's just a joke. It's just it's a fake office where you're like hey. Who took my stapler? microwaving fish, these are the posts, okay? That's it thumbs up, just dumb. You're in while you're in a pandemic. You just pretend to work in office. Okay well, then some dude. Posts. Last night he posts this, he says. I think it's time that are are. Are are fake. CEO of this company decides whether this company supports black lives, matters or not. It's a very good point. So now I've been thrust in the middle of one hundred seventy seven thousand people. Were I have to for my fake company de come out with a real statement. You do from pretend CEO. That's what you're the. Real thing that's how you feel about black lives matter. That's a very good point. I'm glad that. But, the point is of this fake office is pretend. So now you can pretend to not support them if you what. You. Want to be an aide whole. Listen. Politics and race out of my business. You can complete your your comedian. Be a complete s Jack. No, no I. There's real canceled potential in what I do here. Like I know, he's a funny jokes on the on the radio. That's that's that's Florida. This is world and people who are Internet savvy. So like any now I have to give a real. Response. Company, how this fake company! Only this this. Too much thought into every. No, no, but here's the thing. And he and he kind of you know he's talking about in the sense that this these flirting around with this and trying to be serious with one misstep here and his social media presence social media footprint. Imploded on him. If he's every too light hearted about it all. He's not taking it serious. Let's find out who this guy really is. And then next thing you know shows being bombarded by phone calls were being inundated because everybody wants to get this guy for not taking serious about his fate company with the real. Yeah, even even beggar we don't have Angelique today we don't have. We don't have Carlos. It's us. Doing the show and he's over there one about making some fake statement that we're. Working with floating here other part about this that happens from time to time for things that will take Ryan homes away from the show. Oh everything, thank. Get sucked into for hours and I was just like Oh. Maybe he says he has the attention. Span of a button L.. He swerved us because I was like okay. You know I. Know the pro buying a house. That's a real big responsibility, and I know he's figuring you know worrying about that. And I know almost bought the little tiny house and I was like okay. I can understand that. Where's this head space and everything? No come to find out about a fake statement for fake company about a real topic at. The consequences of missteps here we're. All doomed Russ. Well have really stepped into. This was just a funny group about about talking about how care plays our music too loud in her cubicle, and now I have to really come out two hundred seventy seven thousand people with a statement about the thing that really mad at speak from your heart and say what if you were in charge what you really say? You know. Do you support black lives? Matter does your company. Does, your company and fake CEO. Honestly believe in black. The move you, do you believe in it, so it stayed up what you in. My Company my company has more employees than Amazon. Okay! So. It's a real problem. Okay I have to make a stance, and even if I make the one like the one that's like people want. Pro Black labs definitely all going to get blowback. We're GONNA. Get blowback from the other side. All these people from around the world and It no matter what you say, anything official, you know. You've learned that here. No matter what say you always get blowback. I love puppies. Oh! You got your puppies from A. Puppy. The puppy mill. No matter what you say, there's a contrary and out there. That's looking for a way to tear it apart the dilemma. Heart That dilemma here's the collateral damage us me you. got. Yeah, this is like one of those scenarios where almost? Everyone for themselves kind of thing because this dude who knows what mood is going to be an hour from now to decide to respond to this ridiculously. Likes to watch things burn have fun with. Here's what you do you say listen with this company does support black lives. Matter and everyone has to have a twenty minute Twenty minute when you call counseling session, or or you gotta go to You gotta go to the website and fill out this form. It's going to ask you questions. Do like a big company. Does that makes people ever makes a mad? Give them something yell about. Supposed to be a fake group where I know people like to complain fake complain about a fake job. They listen. Everybody has to go to. That was called not counseling. What is it called training? Sensitivity Training for black lives matter elite. All the posts are in this group and just post a training video for the next few days. No, no, no, no. Tell tell them they have to sign up for training. If they don't they're going to be suspended and complain about that. That'd be fun. I think leaving. Here the only real move I can do is step down and replaced myself with a person of color. Okay go to John might have to leave my fate company and replace myself with a new fake. See of real color, I think that's the only way is going to win James on in charge you know, and and so he represents China, and in black, America and You're you're not. You're not built to have your social media about to get destroyed. We destroy you. They're doing it for fun nice. So, they can complain for fun. What are you care? You know what the? Ryan it's so funny because it's so awesome. Sometimes, we're Russ does this and he's done it again. He's looking at it from the perspective of that off fun to him. This has no real world implications much like earlier when the gentleman ask them if it's an insult about the Mexican shower and Russ literally mentally went to Mexico in his head and was like what. What could be wrong with a shower Mexico? Oblivious to the real world implications here, rollins. Verge of being just cyber is in our social media imprint completely decimated, and it's at the whims of one Ryan holds. Yes, I can't handle this power Russ. Do they know it's you know your name or do? They know that you're the CEO? What they do. They're going to find out I ten times more friend requests from that than I. Do anything else. They actually listen to you. Here is why they don't want to talk to you. About this right, flip it no Ryan flipping. Save the hey, listen as CEO this. I'M GONNA. Make a public announcement. I'M GONNA. Come to the forefront. You have to tune in to real radio. One four point one monsters in the morning at said time at said our and we'll do it that way. Or you do this. With you yeah, you're right like you're the CEO Right and say listen. We're not only do we support black lives matter anyone that wants to donate to black lives matter Senate to Ryan holds. Blah Blah. Love. Taking you'll do something good with it, you know. Ryan House. I was going to designate you. Russ's the PR person officially for this. Nope don't need that that in my life and I don't think that that's going to be a good thing. So yeah, that's what I was distracted with this morning I think I'm just going to step down and let somebody else's smart educated on this. Take the rain. If you've got one hundred seventy people on there once you get them following the Mosser's. What are you doing? So, now Make people in my office now have to take time from their fake jobs. Tune into a real. Part of their job now if they're working for this company that part of their job, they have to listen to the Monitor's on real radio, and if they're fired and if they don't, they don't support black lives matter. They're fired. You just come up with reasons that fire, and then really get man. Oh, man, I, don't I! Don't think this is a this is a good thing. This is too much power. I'm stepping down. Oh! You are. Take the power and do something with it. There's no doubt fake power and fake. It's not, it's not real. Should, never become real. We've created at Frankenstein's monster. Real people that are following it right and they're real board, right? There Real Board for God's sakes man you need to you need to do it. You need to tell them to listen to the show I officially. resigned. Can you find? Find. Someone else. That is in the Do you have other people that are on board? Members of the thing or whatever or like? I don't know I. Don't like there's. Thousands, whereas like everybody just picks job we got we got. We can forty thousand HR REPS. One of the HR Reps. we had to fire him because he did black face in college. Like use wired we. Appreciate. You fire him great. Come unglued. Bob No. Place in college. You don't you don't know how you don't know how to handle power speaking of pretend things. I've been thinking about this lot because i. Somebody asked me this and they were like serious when they asked me and that question was like hey, man. What would you do? If. You really caught a big. And that was a good question because I was taken aback for a second. Because you think you know the answer, but let it still for a second in your head. It's just you and a big foot and got him in the cage. You've you've just got him so however you've. You've you've captured a bigfoot? Yeah, he's real. You're the only one that knows about it. I'm calling I. I'm calling Savannah from gator land, and I'm getting gala involved and listen I got I got the big foot and I needed guy. You'd be on the cut here I. Need a little bit of you know and we'll. We'll take him to gator land and to see the first real big foot. It's GONNA cost you but I. I gotTa get my piece. You would sell you sell out the bigfoot yeah. Mind now what it'd be like Qinghong. Sex Semi sentient right like he's A. He's well, you know. I mean look I think. The idea that there was a big thing that looks half eight half human that still walking around in the woods. Crazy, I mean there are other things are much crazier in the world. Okay, you know full on Prophet Angel. You find a bigfoot. What are you doing with the big foot? Avon options you can do Russ. What is doing the Hora out of bigfoot? Einhorn big without. Yeah, you can. You can let it go you can. You can keep it to yourself. You can sell it to the government, or what are you? What is Angel Rivera governments like go by a bigfoot? By a big foot, the government's dumbest things all the time. I think I would let it go. You take a picture with just Bruti had him. Might, take a picture with them. That try to have a real cool selfie with them and. I would put the cell the picture in a safety deposit box and I would leave it to. The kids and then tell them to see what they do with it when they got old enough and see if they can make some money off. Now, you know it's interesting because I've asked several people and. The diversity answers are good. I'd make a kick ass bigfoot habitat. Yeah, it'd be a good one I mean like he'd be, they'd be. bigfoot because I'm like angel, like I have to let them go. How smart is bigfoot? He's like King. Kong, SMART. So he has feelings has emotions you? English so something like that where you feel like there's an actual connection there. I would feel bad about horn amount. Yeah, so I definitely like I if we couldn't become best friends and hang out all the time, I would. Be Best. Foot and if he's not cool with it. I I'm letting the BIGWIG. Go and I'm taking no pictures. No Self. He's not even telling I. Hope you don't find bigfoot even. Fund, but what if that's bigfoot has been the whole time? He's like super chill. Super Sweet is Super Nice in every. Somebody finds them. They're like you know what big I'm going to keep your secrets. I saw the other day. They think they bigfoot lives in the ground. That's reason we never see him. Because he boroughs and digs into the ground and that that's why we never see the bigfoot. Never thought of a burling bigfoot. Wooden there'd be like collapses all the term I mean this sinkholes are that's where seagull confirm. It was a bigfoot Haydn. Sinkhole has now that I. Know Bigwig create sinkholes possibly. I'm selling to the government. That that is a biological weapon, we can lead on our both, but let's say bigfoot is nice and sweet. I don't want to keep them, but he's kind of Maine Jackass Dick. Dick. He's going right to gain running with me. and I'm working out a deal. We make a big foot. You know a nice area for him to hang but then it's it's what ten bucks a person to see bigfoot and I am I cut is three bucks. You'll get way more than ten to see a bigfoot. Cheap that first year where nobody nobody's seen big foot, and you could probably charge. Okay fine. They got they got get it. Going to get into gator land, and then come back to my bigfoot habitat, and then it's ten bucks an hour now and I gotta pay. Rent and you know Savannah's to want some, so you know if I get three bucks. The rest goes to land savannah. You've got a lot of middlemen in your fake scenario with a fake monster. Be There Day a little bit ago. I thought you would make a great CEO of fake company. Now I. Don't I. Don't think so at all like your business sense into pretend world is not very good. Business Sense never been great. I'm great at entertaining. Burn Down Bigfoot Hut. Well if you if you find bigfoot, I'm I'm on team. Let them go and I. Think you should be too and so it shelby fake company thing you're GonNa. Do that thing where you're like listen. We found out that the head of marketing you know. Did black black-faced back in the day I. Want us all boats. Should we fire them or not? Just at least one hundred seventy thousand people what how the voting goes, you know what I'm saying. It'd be fun just to pull a little little. Little Restaurants humorous and tickles him. What the how people would vote. Look into that. Asked I'll check that out I'll I'll. Say They, bob and over and over in distribution has has a confederate flag on his desk show. They make him take it down, so not only. Have you made fake middlemen for your bigfoot franchise? You've also made fake races. No you're not allowed to my fake company. Going to say. What. You are not allowed to fifty feet of my company. Al.. You're listening to the morning. Well I gotta say. Look at band. They're coming for you next. You better look out to the modules morning radio one zero four point one Brasi live on Iheartradio I've rose rollins along with Angel and Ryan Homes Breaking News. Man Another one bites the dust, but I sat. Listen just go ahead and just tear it all up everything. That was bad. Let's just get rid of it all and start over again. What comes to food? That's. Well. You know what because I used to love this lady. I. Always Look I'm sitting there breakfast, look. Look the I like I love you Mama. Love answer model, but answer Mama's going the way of the by by based on her. She's a racial stereotype and the The quaker people said they are going to be put to bed. Answer Mima. WHO's been around for how many years do you think answer Mama's been around? Hundred Years One hundred and thirty years. answer has been around with Of course you say, Aunt Jemima Syrup. A Pancake Syrup and they finally decided that there will be no more Inter Mama, so she wasn't a real person. Angel Momma Aunt Jemima. Yeah, yeah, she was real person I. Believe C- C- Branches a black woman named Angela who was originally dress as a ministerial character. The picture has changed over time in recent years. Quaker remove the Miami kerchief around her neck. and things like that but what they're saying is origins are based on a racial stereotype and never there's no account here as far as their statement that references the there. Yeah she's not real. She was based on a person named Nancy Green who was a storyteller, cooking missionary worker, but I guess on the website. They fail to mention Ms Green was born into slavery. Yeah, so oh, that's okay. Uncle, Ben. Is He really. Ban who the rice guy I don't know I mean as the does. He got to get worried here. I mean. Like the guy really answered by man who's next the tricks rabbit to white. Now he's five trick. Rabbit is fine. Huckabee been a real person The company. Whoever the? Since Mars Inc so they're the ones that own that brand and they are. As, we speak to evolve the brand image Oh. Really 'cause. Uncle Ben Smiling He. He's not wearing anything that would be stereo. Sarah Typical, I. Don't believe It's just been. Taking into consideration in trying to evolve imaging on the same with cream of wheat. Kind of creamy ladies black. Man What's okay? WHAT'S THE FANS? Not really they're. Not Getting my mind blown right now of these images are real based off their characters. What about the Mayonnaise company DUKES Is there. Yeah, I think Mister Duke a black man! I. That one. I. I don't eat matinees so I. Don't know I'd never heard of Duke's men, and we'll make sure do could save because I like dukes. That's just I. Mean I'm looking at their logo now online. It doesn't change the product if there's no person on it, Second WanNa make sure everything you know who knows what we're going to get rid of. Not Get rid of, but what do you? Have Yeah, it's always been just a the name dukes okay. I. I'm just picturing like people who ate duke's mayonnaise where Duke shorts right. I know I saw? A Guy, a black guy who owns the company. Duke and he makes the best man as ever What about this? Okay, so we're. Getting rid of answer mind. What are you change it to your Dow? Ranch yeah. because. You can't call it Jemima. Keep Mina but not have picture right. Think! GonNa go for a whole new. Thing. Racial stereotype, so you have to change the whole thing. Wow, so she's. She's gone to the wayside. Actually GonNA. Tell me Zatarain's guy isn't really a Cajun, gentleman. LOVES HIS NAME IS STEVE AND. Works Finance and he just was able to do that. Voice really well. That was like the most interesting man in the world I was so disappointed to find out about that gag. You know Jimmy Dean's been dead ten years. Still doing still doing this commercials I saw Jimmy. Dean looks pretty good. Their heels like I think he's dead. He's doing this commercial still and then I clicked on Jimmy Dean Been Gone Ten years still doing TV commercials. Hey, do you think they're going to have to get rid of the colonel? Colonel Sanders. Colonel and colonels usually had plantations right. Colonel Sanders. Kentucky Fried Chicken Yeah Kentucky was a competitive I. Think when you're a colonel, you have a plantation in new have slaved that. Accurate or not, but he was a real guy, but he wasn't a real. Answer My. Was She real now? Yeah so colonel. Sanders, real guy, he's safe. I think you're. Right with that guy I mean unless there's something from his nefarious nefarious past. I can't wait to the Colonel Sanders is over party on twitter to start training Man stubb's Barbecue Guy. He's good. STUBB's barbecue. He's got really good, or there's a really good barbecue. I. Forget what it what it is. I Dunno stubs. I I mean like I'm still trying to come back from like uncle. Ben's not a real person. Mrs Butterworth. She saved no. No. There's no Mrs Butterworth. So I mean Mrs. Butterworth is just like like a kind of like. She looks a little bit like again. It's the character answer Mima. Yeah. oh. Man, so he just change the image of Mrs Butterworth. She could like a like a Karen like a white lady I, think you. Think, we should stop. Probably anthropomorphized are food products and just save ourself. The whole trouble CBS Stubbersfield Nov known as Stub is the guy that you're talking about Russ and he's a real guy. He's a war hero, legitimate and again the images that they use of him are his images are his likeness, so it's not a car. Turn a real dude, so he safe. Yeah, okay good. What about land lakes? They got the Indian. They already changed that. Lady, did they? You guys. You guys ever aware of the real kind of again, and this is a very sophomoric of me and I'm aware again giving you inside and this kind of things that I thought was funny when I was in college. Yeah, there was a thing that you could do because it was Do you could cut out the knees? And then you put up the knees on a different part of the box outlook boobs. I to do that. Latest boobs. Back in the day. The only one! I'm not happy that I said all that. Okay, what about this? Guard Kita. Banana leading the banana lady. She's got the like Carmen Miranda. Like fruit on her head right? Yeah, what's wrong with? That was A. She's not real. So we gotta get rid of people that aren't real general, just generally bananas and have a history associated within the not that great. Karma Maranda is actual person though. Her Now The Banana Lady and she looks a little bit Laker. Did Yeah so the CHIQUITA Banana Lady. It is a stereotype of a person. But is it racist? At this point, I'm going to say yes. Everything seems to be. Everything even a question. That seems to be the the people want to do. Because again. It's not cartoonish I want more of an image to Carmen. Miranda and if you look at images, they're trying. They're. Let's say disrespectful for lack of a better word it's. Okay. It's always like whenever have to look up something while on the radio. Say Words out loud while you're trying to read the thing. I could see miss. Butterworth just looking around going Oh man. I'm next. They haven't said that she next year, have they? All the ones that we've talked about today. those those companies are as they have a really different types of statements. Basically, they're saying they're reevaluating and looking at and taken into consideration so What? What was Wonda anti-crime was the first one. the. Bins, Rice for the first thing. That's GonNa Change. It's going to be that one. It's going to be uncle. Ben and cream week were the Hawaiian Punch guys safe. The Hawaiian Punch Guy I. Don't know who that is Hawaiian plan. A little cartoon to flip flops in Hawaiian Punch. Punch you he didn't. He didn't seem like a native island person. Roy! That's where they all showed him coming from for Hawaii. I don't know I think. The slippery slope of all this as you can make an argument for anything. Yes, that is the point, thank. You can make an argument. Anybody can be gone tomorrow if they think that they Oh man, this is just like the song penny. Lane isn't going to be played because the name of that street is named after a guy that I mean man. That's that's region. It yeah I mean that's that's that's. That's US because we're over here looking at it, but if the locals and the locals know the history, and it's the locals as the people that live there that are deciding these things, and they decide that they want to not to represent their city or their town. You gotTa Kinda understand they're. They're gonNA change the name of that street from Penny Lane to something else even though it, it's one of the most famous street names ever right now, and we don't even talk about how your favorite band performs half black face. We can get to that next time. True Yeah and they got there S S. 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The Court TV Cases

The Family Crime Cast

29:40 min | 1 year ago

The Court TV Cases

"Hey all right how are you? I'm good how are you very good? As a matter of fact I see you've escaped to Florida. Yes yes your mother and I took a look at the weather forecast. The New Jersey was not that promising for Memorial Day so we decided take a road backed up. The car backed up rocky our dogs. Your second favorite dog now and we're headed to Florida for a few days so we're down here in. We'll be back in a few days night. It's you did for Memorial Day. Well I worked a lot which. I'm very grateful for very grateful that I had the opportunity to work when a lot of people don't have that right now at this time for those job now. I work in production and when the pandemic started I was out of work along with a lot of freelancers in our industry and I was given the opportunity to remotely record these videos which I never thought in a million years would be auction for me in my industry. But I'm very grateful for that and I think it's really interesting. I mean it's not just me. It's a lot of everyday. Business has obviously moved to this virtual form of communication including the justice system and I think we briefly touched on it at the beginning of last episode but from your perspective if you WanNa give us a little more insight. What has that been like for you. Well as you said. You'd never expected that you could operate remotely with what you do. Well quite frankly. I never thought that I could operate remotely what I do. I mean I'm a trial at chart. I go to court every day. That's that was my job with the pandemic you know. We have now evolved into a remote court virtual court. I've done guilty pleas I've done. Sentences arraignments had status conferences. All remotely all from my chair in the living room. It's quite an experience quite frankly. I think that this is going to expand. As a matter of fact New Jersey is piloting virtual grand jurors meaning that twenty-three people will be sitting in their living rooms or kitchens deciding whether or not a case should be indicted. So we'll see how that works out but again. I don't think we're going to see anything that will lessen the use of virtual precedings I matter of fact. I think it's going to be expanded. It's quite certainly I think. Go to be for new attorneys and hurries up and coming the wave of the future. So that sort of segues into what? We're actually GONNA be talking about today being in front of the camera in a sense. This is going to be a little different from the previous episodes that we've aired but we thought our listeners would be interested in hearing about your court TV appearances and the cases that you commented on on that program. I remember being little and watching you on court. Tv In our living room. I remember even one time you brought us into the city or I think just me into New York to the studio which I was so excited about to watch. When you're tapings. Remember you going in the makeup room in coming out in looking like an invalid blah. 'cause you had so much makeup on it had like this orange tint to it. I don't know why they do orange. I have to think it had to be because of the color temperature of the lights or something I do not know but I always thought it was so cool that you were making these on air appearances. I guess we could start from the beginning. When did you begin making appearances on court? Tv So I started Court TV in one thousand nine hundred four spring of ninety four court TV started in one thousand nine hundred ninety one and they were the first network that actually brought cameras into the courtroom and televised to gavel-to-gavel proceedings with reporters on scene and an anchor and guest commentators. And you've got to realize that back in the late eighties early nineties. There were very few courtroom that allowed cameras in the courtroom whether they be still cameras television cameras. If you remember the old idea of the courtroom artist who would be drawing sketches of what was happening in a courtroom. That was what was occurring but court. Tv changed all that. And they started to get some really big notoriety when they telecasts. Menendez brothers trial which I was in nineteen ninety-three and that sort of took off for court. Tv and one day. I got a call from good friend of mine. Jack Ford who was an anchor for court. Tv who is a former assistant prosecutor? Mama's county she ISA's how would you like to do a little guest commentating on court? Tv So I asked my boss John. Do you think it'd be a good idea because there weren't too many prosecutors who were on TV. There were a lot of former prosecutors and defense attorneys but not many prosecutors. John said Yeah. Yeah go up do a good job and Hell Jack. I said low so headed up to New York and started my career on court. Debbie Harry so why do you think one of the reasons he called you to commentate on court? Tv well the case that he was talking about was going to be a death penalty prosecution and he knew that I had tried to couple of death. Penalty cases was an experienced prosecutor. And they really needed somebody to really not necessarily advocate but to explain to the viewers prosecutor was thinking and how he was going to proceed with a death penalty case. What was that death penalty case though the case that I first appeared on court? Tv was the state of Florida versus Danny Roland. Anti Rowen was accused of murdering five students at the University of Florida. Gainesville Florida and it was quite horrific case. That's the first case that I was called to comment on. So that case is such a crazy story and Danny rolling was nicknamed I believe before they even caught him. But the GAINESVILLE ripper such a horrific case and actually games all ripper was the inspiration for the movie scream. Which is one of my favorite movies and Dad. You probably remember this but I think twenty fifteen halloween rolls around and I went as Casey Becker. The Drew Barrymore character from the I. Scream she's killed in the first ten minutes. It was like wes. Craven's owed to hitchcock killing the star and like the first ten minutes of the movie. One of my favorite scenes and so. I decided to go as her for Halloween. And To my surprise my dad showed up till Halloween party. He was dressed as the ghoul. Ghost costume famously. Made in scream. So one hundred dollars. So if anybody doubted our bonding over murder look no further than twenty fifteen screen fame. Hollowing costs down. So I didn't realize that you know the Danny Rolling case was the basis for screaming until I took a look at some of the stuff with preparing for the podcast. Essen loan behold it. We are the characters and scream. And now we're talking about Danny Rolla now pretty crazy. So what did you comment on Danny Rollins case? What was your commentary? Well you know this. This case terrorize the University of Florida. When it happened we went to into little background of the case Because what he had done is he had murdered five students over four days on the campus in and around the campus of the University of Florida. He was not caught until two years later. He was burglarizing residences in Ocala Florida and he had used some tool bars that try to gain entry and the tool marks that were gathered as evidence in the o caliber. Gorey's were matched to the tool marks. Used in the burglar raised enter the residents. Kill the students. And so ultimately he was cau- and charged with those murders of those students. Yeah I remember reading about the case and just hearing that. He really terrorize the campus. I think they started setting curfews. The college that curfews and and I forget if they ended the semester early or students voluntarily left and it was just like a ghost town because the college students so terrified of the gains over when it was happening so what ultimately ended up happening in that case. Show you know. When he was caught he ultimately confessed to the murders of the students but he was scheduled to go to trial in the spring of one thousand. Nine hundred ninety four and right before the trial was to start. He pled guilty to the murders and the state's attorney in Florida then decided to proceed with the penalty phase the death penalty phase to try to convince the jury that Danny Roller should be sentenced to death and was he sentenced to death. Well after the penalty hearing which involved His mother testifying his girlfriend testifying lawyer testifying a psychologist testifying jury. In April of nineteen ninety four ultimately came back with the sentence of death for Danny role. So what is another memorable case that you commented on to the next case that I commented on was the people of New York versus Colin Ferguson. And in that case Colin Ferguson boarded a rush hour trains from Long Island Railroad people heading back at the end of a work day back to their homes on Long Island and he had automatic weapon and honored sixty rounds of ammunition and systematically went down the aisle of the train shooting people and ended up killing six people as well as wounding night. T wow. I don't even recall ever hearing about this case to be honest. I know it sounds like a really really big story I just. I don't remember hearing about it. We'll lose a reason for that. But you know I'll get into that in a second. But this was a very interesting case because Ferguson initially had a court appointed lawyer and then he had a another lawyer who advocated that he should pursue an insanity defense and then he had two very famous. Liars William Kuntsler and Ron. Kuby who are activists lawyers will also believe that his best defense was an insanity. Defense however Ferguson rejected that defense and wanted to proceed by himself as his own lawyer and indicate or try to convince the jury that it wasn't him who did it the irony of all of that is that the trial involved him actually cross examining the people that he had shot and it turned into quite a I would categorize it. As a bizarre almost circus like atmosphere in that trial and ultimately he was convicted and still serving time now for those murders and attempted murders but the reason why Mariah. Probably you don't hear very much about this. Case is that his trial occurred around the same time as the OJ Simpson trial. That makes a ton of sense son. Yes exactly that's That's why most people do not remember the Colin Ferguson. Although it was a horrific case absolutely horrific I mean it sounds horrific terrifying. I mean you know ending workday and just heading home in your at that point of relaxation and then have to deal with things like that can't even imagine But now it makes so much sense that I never heard about it because Oj Simpson. Was I think maybe the biggest media case I think in the world now like this case was just such a crazy media sensation Variety it was billed. You know back in nineteen started. I think in nineteen October or November of nineteen ninety before in October nine hundred ninety five so it carried on for eleven months and it was billed as the crime of the century and was almost like a professional sporting match like the prosecution the State of California versus the Dream Team. It's almost like the Lakers. And the Knicks. Were playing a basketball game and the promotion was endless or coverage of the OJ Simpson case and So actually I was doing sometime on Sundays double duty. I would do Colin Ferguson. In the morning and then in the later afternoon and evening do commentary on the O. J. Simpson case. So what do you remember about commentating on the o? J. Simpson case will the Oj Simpson case obviously had many different issues? Involved in that case and quite frankly as a prosecutor. I thought that the Prosecution Team Marcia Clark Christopher Darden Bill Hodgman who are all experienced prosecutors had a pretty good case I mean. They had a bloody glove that the crime scene. They had a bloody glove back at. Oj Simpson's residence. They had blood on his socks blood on his Bronco. They had a motive in the case. You know he was a jealous ex husband. She was victim of domestic violence. And you know of course. Everybody remembers that the two victims in this case Nicole Brown Simpson. Who was once married to? Oj and mother of their two children had reported on several occasions that OJ. Simpson had abused her. And Ron Goldman. Who was a waiter at a restaurant unfortunately ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time by returning a pair of eyeglasses that Nicole Brown Simpson had left at the restaurant where he worked and they were brutally murdered. It was a murder murders that we're committed which surely indicated that they were done with savagery and within ten so. I always thought that the prosecution had a great case the piece together to prove that. Oj Simpson was guilty. Now you have to remember that in this case this was one of the first big cases with the use of DNA and DNA matched various samples Nicole Brown Simpson to evidence connecting to Oj Simpson. But it also was subject to attack in the case as being contaminated or corrupted or planted at his as evidence by law enforcement. And that's what the defense hammered at during the course of this entire trial right. I mean it's it's it's obviously one of the most famous cases of all time when most interesting ones and I love the portrayal of it on heavy watched the people vs Oj the American Crime Story. Your yeah have and the they did a pretty good job Portraying all of the characters. Because you know really you did have a cast of characters. You had a very hard driven prosecutor Marcia Clark yet. Christopher Darden who is an younger prosecutor who you know Idealized and believed in the prosecution of this case and then you had the Dream Team of lawyers on the other side. Initially Robert Shapiro headed the defense team. But then ultimately Johnny Cochran headed the defense team and moved in the position of the leadership role of the defense. But don't forget you also had F Lee Bailey Alan Dershowitz Barry Sheck and all those guys Robert Robert Kadarshian and all those guys were part of the defense team. So and then he had Barry Sheck who was at the time the from year person dealing with issues involving DNA so whoever characterized them as the Dream Team certainly did them justice because in fact they had probably some of the best lawyers in the country representing Oj and we followed the case on court TV from the very beginning of the luminary hearing all the way through the verdict? So I think I appeared maybe twenty thirty times on court. Tv during the course of at almost a year of the televised trial and do have any specific moments. That you remember comment that you made or anything like that. Still you remember to this day. I do remember that. One of the motivations are one of the reasons why the state of California pursued. This was because of the fact that they believe that you know. Oj Simpson acted in rage because of the fact that Nicole Brown Simpson. Either may have been seeing somebody else or didn't want to anything to do with them. And she had a history of domestic violence and I remembered that I was doing a lot of domestic violence cases at that time. Back in the mom of county prosecutor's office I remember specifically commenting on The victims of domestic violence and I remember that At some point during an interview of Nicole Brown Simpson's sister that she actually mentioned. My comment is being spot on about. How victims who suffer from domestic violence react. In certain circumstances I remember that and then I remember being called back to be around to sit wait and see for the verdict and certainly that was very memorable to when the jury came back because if everybody remembers they came back very quickly and everybody was surprised that they came back so quickly and then everybody really wasn't sure what the verdict was. GonNa be right and obviously we all know that. Oj was acquitted for the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman and it was pretty theatrical two. I think that the trial itself played to the viewers and they were captivated by this trial. And the commenting you know from my perspective as a prosecutor in because there was some criticism of you know the Marcia Clark and Christopher Darden but I never once criticized you know what they were attempting to do. I was just explaining what they were attempting to do. So certainly wasn't in a position of saying that I would do something different or whatever which some commentators did but I was at least trying to explain to the viewers. Exactly what their position was going to be on various issues in the case so on court. Tv why are some of the more memory horse more memorable people that you've got to work with equity will? They were a great number of people that I got to work with number one the late great Fred Graham who was. Cbs legal analyst Way before they were in vogue which they are now He was a brilliant man and really knew the law and he was sort of like the Vince. Scully of court. Tv Did an excellent play by play of courtroom drama so he was a great guy but there were many others who became quite famous in their own. Right there's Greg Jarrett who gone onto bigger and better things. Terry Moran who is a senior correspondent for ABC News White House correspondent international correspondent for them appeared with Nancy Grace period with Savannah Guthrie Ricky claim in Dan Abrahams. All of these people became very much involved after court. Tv in big positions with various networks as legal correspondents ricky claiming And I had done a number of cases together and we had great chemistry and she kept always bringing me back for my perspective. I thought she was a brilliant lawyer. Brilliant mind and still she is doing legal commentary for CBS. Certainly I have great fond memories of all those people on Court TV. But I wanNA tell you. Ri- One of my favorite experiences was doing a show with Johnny Cochrane after the O. J. Simpson Case Court court. Tv had hired him and originally he did a show with him and Ansi Grace and ultimately he ended up having his own show called Cochran and company and one day. I get a call from his producers saying Johnny Cochran would like you to come up and do a show with that I thought. Wow that's great johnny. Cochran wants me to do a show self go up to New York now. I really really was never nervous during a core TV commentating for the first time going up to be on a program with Johnny Cochran. I I was a little nervous because I wasn't too sure how was guide to receive me here. I was prosecutor and he built his fame and reputation Scenting cases that he believed that the prosecutor was not being fair or had wrongfully charged. Some individual. And here I was. I was first assistant prosecutor in Mama's county coming up to do the show with Johnny Cochran to my the light. We instantly hit it off because we had something in common. Believe it or not Johnny Cochran. Not a lot of people know this but he was the first assistant district attorney for the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office for a period of time and so I went up there as the first assistant prosecutor for Monmouth. County instantly we had a bond of two former or to to first assistant prosecutors and we missed over that type of job and what it entailed and then we rolled into whatever subject matter. We were going to cover that evening. But that was the most enjoyable and memorable evening and I was so sad when just a few short years later he passed away. He truly wasn't a great lawyer and a very fine gentleman who was an is still accredited. The legal profession. Yeah I think like Johnny. Cochran have been one person that I would have loved to me. 'cause I just feel like one. He's just such an icon in the legal world and to I mean like what he did in the O. J. Simpson case. He was just so theatrical so over the top but it worked and people loved him and people were rooting for him. Like you mentioned like it was a sports team and I mean he created the most iconic line in all of court history saying they're people if the glove does not fit mush. I don't I think that line obviously was something that will forever be thought of as being one of the greatest lines to be uttered in a courtroom and I'm sure lawyers all over the world have somehow either mimicked that line or have used it or paraphrase it in some trial or some a preceding but Johnny Cochran is the one who initiated it. Johnny Cochran is the one who delivered it and that's the most important key. It could have not come off very well but he delivered it and it was perfect. Timing and quite frankly it was probably one of the turning points in that trial alkyl so When did you end court? Tv and stop doing appearances. The thumb will court TV sort of ended itself in two thousand eight. They decided to go into a different direction and do sort of crime dramas and get away from the live courtroom televised proceedings. And so that was two thousand. Seven two thousand eight. I think two thousand eight ended my court. Tv experience you know just recently within the last year or so court TV has come back as a digitalized network and one of the original anchors vinnie politics. Who's a New Jersey boy of the original court? Tv is now the anchor with a new court TV Program. There actually once again. Doing what made court. Tv grade is at the televised proceedings and giving commentary on those proceedings. Yeah I mean should I love watching trial footage like I just find that so interesting and I mean all these cases were so public? It's Sorta makes me think of today in the US. Were all diming. Crime obviously doesn't stop have criminal. Trials been postponed. What our criminal case. It's GonNa look like moving forward. Well that's that's a very good question right because you know criminal trials again. Are you know involved person to person contact where you have lawyers giving opening statements and lawyers giving closing statements and examining and cross examining witnesses and that is all done on a personal level where you're trying to connect not only with witness but also with the jury and I think the fact that these virtual proceedings take away from that personal touch that trial lawyers have a need to have when presenting cases in front of a jury? And so. That's going to be a difficult thing not too sure how that's going to be conveyed? I pretty sure that we're a long way from having virtual trials but we bay get there. Yeah I know it's it's going to be interesting to say and we'll try to keep our listeners updated on moving forward if it does become some sort of virtual situation will try to keep you posted on what that's like and in the process of that we also we have a lot of VHS tapes from my dad and his court. Appearance are court TV appearances. So we'RE GONNA TRY. To do is get those transferred to files and hopefully we can post them to our website and other social pages. I just think that'd be really fun to cut his show. Some of the commentary that you did good. That's good so we'll see how this plays out. Rai in the future. Certainly I'll let you know if I become more and more a expert on the virtual reality of courtroom. Today can be the pioneer for a dad. I don't know I don't know if my career is going to last that long but to try to get you on this remote recording situation so maybe too strong of a word to use. Maybe maybe pioneers too strong. But maybe I'll go along with the flow so this episode of. We'd really love to hear from you on our mouth. Family cried costs at Jimbo. Dot Com. Send US some requests of cases. You'd like you're from US. Any other tidbits that you want to send us would be really great and thanks so much for listening to this episode on TV and my Dad's momentary. I found it really interesting. I hope you did choose. So thanks for listening right. Ride love you. I love you too at all right.

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Y'all Ever Come Wit It Now?

Suicide Buddies

56:14 min | 1 year ago

Y'all Ever Come Wit It Now?

"Starving. Hey? Guys welcome to the only podcast on the Internet. It's true no one's making content but us. No one saying anything everyone on twitter is quiet except for Hampton and Dave Ross Yeah. You fucking losers. She should have gotten on a ball and started making a podcast or done I mean we cornered the market? Sorry, you know how you can tell that the world is going through. Shall we say Changes Ha? What Ha. I just woke up. Dude, do just woke up. A lot of to the protests, but I was tired. I'm sweeping. What. Yeah Okay So. There are a lot of ways that one might. Be Able to a lot of things that you might be able to point to as signifier 's that People are changing their minds that there's a revolution, but I think the biggest one is the fact. That the American flag in Hampton's room is now upside down. I believe in the country. It's upside down. I knew you'd notice the little things. I don't WanNa make this to visual podcast You guys should check out the youtube page. We have subscribed to the y'all lever. Youtube and I have a okay Dave start telling me like a really sad story. Okay, I have a said story. I'm going to tell you. It's cold my life. Now Okay for like a bit. I like this already, but. For a bit like I know. You want to do a bit, but my thing is that I wanna do a bit that hijacks yours. Okay I'll do it I got do this out. Yeah, so I was born in that sucked and. Yeah you know immediately after birth. Both of my parents started punching me. It sounds it was really. Okay. We're doing a lot of videotape. Do keep going. Hampton. Immediately pulled up a playboy and started reading it. Off, though that's a Oh shit. Looking at a centerfold! Oh! It's a big centerfold. To keep telling my story. Jenny McCarthy. Dude now it's Pam Anderson on the front the hottest. In the world sin, it's why it's. She's a hottest woman that were allowed to look at. She's the only naked woman on the Internet. This is the only podcast on the Internet. That's the way it is. Do you remember when she got married at Tommy Lee that was crazy. That was crazy. I remember when that happened when I was a kid and I was like even as a kid. I was like who gives a shit about that s why listing dude I'm so glad like really like. We were really aware of what was happening during that generation. A lot of that pop culture stuff was just in the background. While we're growing up, we we didn't like we weren't absorbed with the OJ trial or like Tommy Lee like. Bill Clinton all that stuff. I'm just glad I really was a child still really when all that was happening, I literally I remember. Being like called in I was at my grandma's House and Oh God. It's A. It is a good bit. Nuts great, fuck embiid great. Guys check out the Youtube Channel to see these great all right so. Look at Youtube Channel. and or you're going to catch these hands. Pretty violent like a COP. We I want to hear this story a I remember it distinctly. We were at my grandma's house. My family for. Whatever fucking reason we were over there for the week. And I got called into my grandma's room. She had a TV in her room and it was like the OJ car chase. And I watched her second, and I was like who is this and in my cousin who's like fifteen years older than me? It was like it's OJ Simpson and I looked right at him, and I said from Naked Gun. And he was. Naked Gun yes, and that's like how I knew. Who O. J. Simpson was from naked got me to do yeah. That's. I was I will say as far as a murderer goes. He's one of my favorite actor murderers. Dude imagine if if Roman Polanski directed OJ. From us from script woody Allen Row. I way I'm actually a good producer. I'm really bringing all these these people together here mentally. I had a playboy to pull up. Good. Good Yellen. Latest. I remember like being like. Oh, naked gun like that's all I knew from, but then so weird. Like is I really enjoy now as an adult like all this OJ Shit that's come out recently in recent years, 'cause totally I didn't realize how famous he was, neither and like literally the only equivalent I can think of is Shaquille O'Neal like he's in movies. He's like every Komo. Every commercial is shack like literally shack is endorses twenty different brands I was. Yeah the only person like Oj a shack and I was like all right, you know. Murdering. A, Imply that shack would do anything illegal, but there's also the I totally know what you're saying. He's like a famous in every category, but the reason I at that a little was the is like super active in his community, and like you know doesn't. Say same with Oj, but I was like now. You need a bunch of charity, but like did nothing for the community at all. No turned his back on it entirely and I know that because I just watched a documentary about the whole. Do. Could you send that to me? It's like I didn't get this when I was a kid. I'm glad, but. because. It's funny like that. Stuff now seems interesting like I. Think now I could really. Like listen to the Lorena bobbitt story. And be like okay like this is really a story about spousal abuse like. He's told. But, like at the time it was like man's penis thrown in the grass. The where's Waldo of being Asus? Where'd it is being as go? I've been thinking a lot about the nineties recently as a result of the anti-racist movement right now and. And and kind of with every single news story granted we were kids, and so perhaps I just didn't see the discord and the discourse like the actual intelligent discussion around it, but I just remember my family who are smart and very liberal. I don't really recall being talked about in any of these cases about the complexities of it, I don't have any memory of anyone saying anything except the through his dick out the window. That's. Dollars like that was the cultural reaction. Everything Mall Riot does crazy when I happened and. It's just no reflection. 'cause the news itself was just like. We don't know what's happening. And the will and corporations own our discourse, so you know it's. Too I think the a big part of it is. Like what White America as a culture was so insanely separate from Black America as a culture, I, really think my parents like Equated Rodney King with Reginald Dennie, which is just not the case, Lake. Yeah I mean Reginald Dennie. Got, the Shit kicked out of him in public, and that's awful, but like it happened in the middle of race riots that hundreds of years had been leaning to leading up to. Trying to drive through. Added mine he's trying to fucking drive through the rights, oh, and he's a racist. And what's the mentality there? It's like I'm sorry like I don't want anybody to get. The Shit kicked out of them, but it's also like he's begging for a shit kicking like. Like I. Don't know what to say, man like. Don't share and don't. Get beat the fuck up. On what I'm saying is that it's like. They didn't even it's weird like I said I'm thinking about this a lot. My parents literally there so liberal, and it's very important to them in my mom has been an activist everywhere. We lived to the point of US, getting death, threats and stuff she gave me all kinds of lectures rounds growing up about not being racist, not being homophobic all those things and yet still she told she was like both of these are bad in the same way, also when fuck. The police came out, and when cop killer came out, my parents demonized them, and they were like the police. are here us to help us you just? You can't just hurt the police. Lead fuck the police, no one. There Okay! That's a job. A lot of people think yes. No, but my point is like I via that a lot because of all this and it's so interesting to me. How like even people who actively were trying to be on the right side of things just so incredibly didn't get it I. Think in the nineties. It was just like. There was no listening at all. Men It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing and I didn't mean to go on this ranch. That's just serious about how embarrassed I am about it, but it's just funny to look back at the nineties and be like Damn Dude was trying to hear each other at fucking all marine. It was an abused wife who cutting is Dick off after like years and years of abuse and leading up to it and everyone was like you bitch. Show shut out. To listen, yeah, exactly I'd say that's the thing is just kind of you know. About the whole thing where you're like. It's good that we're. We're getting here now. Though you know it's good, it's good that we are. Playboy jerk off. A. Were they talking about back then, okay? A. Year? Is Slow from? Two, thousand four. Holy Shit Damn do graduated from college good dude. Colleges so fun. Dude, you make your best friend ever in college. Did you know that drinking fucking? fucking parties, dude frats. FRAT. Me and my family. Friends family. We're make more like family because we'll definitely go to jail for each other. We'll definitely like. Do Shit that way legal to other people and totally lie for each other. We'll do that the marines and a lot of way. For a kid batch it. All the way family. To get a job, get a job, you know. My Dad on the. Day does get. Okay death and dishonor, the brutal homefront murder of an Iraq vet. The way this is in playboy. My God. Howard I am. How. Do I. Just read the articles and get hard totally. Did I. JUST GET HARD ECOLES? This juiced ripping the cover off baseball's steroid scandal. Wow, that was a big deal at the time that they made baseball. Players go in front of Congress, and say sorry. We lied Congress. You guys are so pure. Sorry, we lied about our sport. That's about balls getting hit with dicks. On sorry I lied. To entertain, you. Pieces Shit, who are? Ignoring everything society. Anyway, it's also just like I. Don't know man I don't know much about sports, so I'm not. I can't way into hard, but I also do think it's a little fucking hypocritical. To just. Completely to do have a sport that's like the most popular thing in America and just actively value only how far you hit a ball and then think it's that crazy when people take drugs. Maybe, we were valuing the wrong thing. Baseball players! Turn up and shit like you know like it's not that old of a sport. You know like guys. Let's scale this back. Why is why are they getting twenty million dollars a year for like tell you suck. Sorry, that's me being kind of stupid. This one's pretty great dude. Matthew Perry. Twenty questions Oh here. We Fuck Dude Oh my God. I am so excited for this. Can we do a thing where you tell me the question? I GUESS HIS ANSWER, Yeah! Of course I can't. Guys I don't know where either GONNA do a regular episode. Sounds like a whole new better podcast. Read old like early play. Playboys. Answers. Stars were giving like when there's riots and Shit I kick. We'll pick playboy that were coming out while there was like. Keep complete racial injustice. There's a great quote for Matthew. Perry that attached to that Matthew Perry twenty questions. He goes, I don't WanNa star anymore. Love Boat Movies. What are you talking about did? That what there was no love I mean he was being funny. You know it's. Funny. Friends A. One of the girls was. Being he called her a slut. I GET PISSED COM DUDE I. Hot Come Out of my Dick laughing so hard so cabins. Weight or on I have a better question. Yeah, that happened when you laugh. This hot come damn did. Matthew Perry. I think the thing that I like about him. The most is look so likeable. And they usually seems like my best friend. Have you heard some of the stories about him? Is Legendary like you see it fucking. Shit that kind of stuff I don't know. If it's that I might be, it definitely could be. He's definitely like just known as the gigantic asshole. And like all the stories are more just like He. He doesn't tip like it's kind of insane. Like Oh my God. He liked will literally stop other people from Tipping. One of the stories was how like the guy was trying to tip in Matthew. Perry was like no, no, they. It's like it's like free here and he's like I'm trying to tap and he's like no, don't do that. Sane. He was. Like psychotic. And I'm going to try to find. Yeah, sorry. There's so much pages turning. You'll notice. None of these are stocks. Boy! That's how good I am as person. No, it's Georgia's. That's why. You're copies in the bedroom. This is grey areas. Did you find it? Yeah, I went to the front I forgot that they used to have like a glossary and index and like all magazines. Back Oh my God. That's in the front and the back. It used to be like this is textbook. You're going really want like it'll have like an important words. E should go back and like Oh. That's what that word meant. Oh? Jackie I get no. Did. It was the one page that was stuck together. Now. There's such good questions. Okay, okay. Okay first questions now that friends is over. What would you have? Chandler do differently? To that I think that he would literally say. I'm going to try to actually guess. Fuck in a tool. Yeah I think he's a loser. This guy for the record I think Matthew Perry's a fucking loser. Yeah, I liked that movie the whole nine yards though that was fun because Bruce Willis pretty easy aggressive. It's good, no matter what it's just. As well as a piece of shit. I mean he's totally. Like? Awful that movie should be called to pieces a ship. It's like an equation. It's like a whole. Nine yards equals two pieces of shit. With a cup. The whole the whole do pieces shit. Old Man Okay so now the friends over well would you had chandler do differently? I. I think it's time for him to move out on his own I think it's time for chancellor. Get his own apartment. Living with friends for a while, but you've got a good job. Good job and so it's time for him to go out on his own. That's absolutely J. Yeah, he's like. Jan. they're really the actor should get several chances to make shady shows. I think of Chandler I think about how that man should just be given chance upon chance to use his entitlement and take away from voices, and just give give give the multi-millionaire another pilot. Oh! This time. He's got a podcast this time this time. He's a therapist and all his patients Grazie. Like just like. Do you have enough money? Can you shut up like Jesus? Fuck so I think we'll do is. We'll have a new show. He'll get show right we're. His roommate is just the basic idea of Hollywood boringness and it's called best friends. It's A. Shared apartment with the sheer idea of just being me, and and it's called best friends. That's. It's being in an apartment with two other Chandler's. God. What's his? His response is. I would've had him rethink the sweater vests. And then he probably made this face for twenty minutes of like. Christie Leah arched eyebrow does like. Can you believe I, said something. Totally like if. You'll see the words, aren't they? Cute are tattooed on my eyelids. How would I have done that? Chandler Day relate. Maybe would suck less Dick. Party Chandler. Safari the career that I never told anybody. Nonstop. Show we raw the Monkey. Everybody. phoebe at a Dick. Well one thing you would change about gentler. I honestly wish you had to suck less Dick. FUCKING DICK! Man, this is the summit. His real answer is so much more obnoxious. I would have had him rethink. The sweater vests dude you. Shut up. Just shut up bird. The reason friends so popular. Is that it? There's absolutely nothing. At all. It hurts no-one. Nothing. They're friends, but they're like clearly million like millionaires. They live in like a fucking. reciter what and they just sit at a coffee shop? What are they do? They should have just had like every episode of friends where they're at the copy shop, they should have just have black people on the outside of the coffee shop, just hitting the window like talk about anything real. Do what world is this? Why can't we penetrate this bubble? Right. Busting through the windows in like societies, collapsing outside of the central perk, and they're just like. I heard Ross is dating a girl who's ten years younger than him. Boy I guess we're all going to nut. I guess we're all going to have orgasms When should write a show show called neighbors? That's about everyone else. Who lives in their building and. Just like named. Those Idiots! Just like yapping four in the morning about Oh shit. I'm trying to sleep. I gotta get up and go to I'M A fucking firefighter. Honestly, that's a brilliant concept that I'm far too lazy to execute definitely like if you made a show that was like every episode is a reaction to what's happening in the friends like apartments, and they're just downstairs dealing with it. And it's like it's like every episode could line up that would just I. You know smarter people than us. Stave will walk. God's will make this show. We give this to you our listeners. If you have any drive at all, please do it because we don't. We have an upside down American flag, and that's our massive contribution. Also dicks or at half mast today. I said some of these for later. I mean what do you think? Should I do one more? Before we break okay. Yeah I'll do another one I liked when he gives some of these are a little long, and I don't want to read what this man does. Dick! I, Love You all right? That's friends. That's the show friends all right so. playboy goes. You attended a private boys school in Ottawa surprise, brands. What did you learn that you wouldn't have learned in public school? To talk about everything like what are you? Are you serious this man? This man doesn't tip. This fool doesn't know how society works. He doesn't understand. Minimum wage doesn't stand. Love that. Boy scored Ottawa. What did you learn that you wouldn't have learned in publishable? I actually think. I have a pretty good guess. actually I think the main thing I. learned is that you wouldn't think it, but Christian girls are actually pretty freaky. Holy Shit did I. You. Know fucking, it's so close. He goes. You roles are. Going to say the question again, you attended private school in Ottawa. What did you learn there that you wouldn't have learned in public school? He goes the desire to have women around always. Dick Fuck you got it. It was it was absolutely like. Women are objects I. Just want whatever the answer is i. need you to know that? I think less of women and that. When I look at them, I can't help but sexualize them at any age at any age I will first and foremost before I get to know. I want a lot of 'em around me because then the potential that could have sex with all of them at once playboy if I can respond playboy. Are you writing this down playboy? Wow I didn't realize how much they hate him. I didn't know, but I really do I. Really Ain't. For Awhile I'm glad we share this. I fucking hate his guts. Is, great all right. Let's take a break I think we gotta fuck in toothpaste, AD or some shit. Who knows whatever shut up? Fuck you guys. Check out the Youtube Channel. Check out. Our albums. I WANNA send people to self. Oh, yeah, and check out my youtube channel. And subscribe if you like seeing content and stuff, yeah. We both have other podcasts, and we both have patriots. Also this podcast has patriot. Yeah, I think. It's a good way to say if you like our stuff. There's a bunch of stuff we have the cost money, and there's a bunch of stuff that is free. supporting any of that is wonderful i. also urge you imagine if you're listing your like feminist and black lives, matter is important to you. Please keep donating to black lives, matter and bail funds. Protesting is continuing to go. Yeah, so important. I hope you're contributing in whatever way makes sense for you know pressure on a specific thing, but you know. Yeah yeah, that's great. Let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back with some of your stuff that you guys wrote in for. Are Y'all ever prompt? was. Changed in the back. Of Different kinds of the response I think we kinda hit the email is y'all ever email, GMO dot, com! We've given a bunch of prompts that and I think most recently. We went back to Y'all ever date in quarantine, but then we've gotten a bunch of emails. We have in Oh y'all ever been essential. That was a big one y'all wrestle workers. 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Here's my question, is it? Good. Sit Back. Maybe. Up fucking. HASHTAG comedy and they're not the aluminum naughty. The Aluminum Nights Asti did. Asti woman, but like so as Shit. Deserved a lot more just. As all of the world has been crumbling. I was either tweeting about it I was like where the video game sales. A- I was like this doesn't make sense like wire video game companies, stepping up and being like hey, corona virus like and so there there were some sales kind of initially, and then like literally, when the protests and the riots happened more so i. just say the protests, the mass the massive yeah, put political upheaval. Literally. On xbox I check every day. See what the deals are. It was every game I'd ever looked at over the last year on sale. Just everything was on sale. I like it's. It's like what a normal sale would be times like five. It was insane. The only system I have is switch switch the exact same everything's on sale and what's funny. Is that like that's cool and it's good to know, and you should take advantage of this, but also. BEAVIS! Protest him like. Get like all Zach delaroche shoot. down. Box. Spots And something's up man I. Tell me. There's not a conspiracy here. Video game companies being like. Please don't go right. It just play video games like. Maybe, I've seen fight club one too many times, but like sit can't be a coincidence the biggest. I'm using my fucking life. I don't think it's a coincidence I. Probably some of them are fucking devious. They're like hey. We're going to keep them home, but I think mostly it's them. Their sales went down and they were like we gotta get the sales back and they're not even thinking about what that means just like looking at the world man. We're all taking hits right now. Sorry Bro. We're fucking taking hits. Everyone everything is being consumed less except the content that applies to what's happening right now, and that is good. So. Very rational point thing upset. Dieting you really upsetting me with. Rationality, right I Canadian dude. I. Wipe my ass with. The census steered I wiped my ass with woman. Here's my question, do you? Do you. Kind of a point. If you don't think about it, I will say this though. Take advantage of the sales. Oh. Yeah, no, I don't want even disclose, but I will say everything I bought was like eighty percent on sale like I i. never spent try to spend that much, but it was like the deals were saying so. I literally bought like Games I'm like yet once I play all through these games I'm. GonNa have more. Like the I definitely loaded up. Dude. which is zinc which is like? Going through. Don't know this is the plan, but it seems like. Every handful of days. They just pick a different two of the proprietary Nintendo Games to make twenty percent or thirty percent off and so. Right now. New Super Mario brothers and Mario. Party, eight or nine are both thirty percent off, just crazy. That's. Up Nude right now. Yes yes totally! I do think that. You'd Nintendo. I do think maybe on Nintendo's part. It's Shitty because Nintendo is a massive company, and they should know better, but but like on. There's also the reality that they're fucking the proprietary Nintendo Games, most of them are like five years old, and they still cost sixty bucks, so get in there and pay forty bucks for them because they're gonNA cost forty bucks. Every getting really upset like this is. I. I like this is really politicizing you. It's not right. Why because the war finally came to the Home Front. Say Oh the wars were finally touch something that was real to you. But, I have a question, I only have one question about that. Listening. bought. New Super Mario Brothers. I've always wanted, and it's always been sixty bucks, but I. I also got Orien- The blind forest which is. A, like Indie game, people have told me about so much. That's on sale, too, and I. I was like I was skeptical. Because it's a platformer and game I played it and Wallace playing it I was like. This is the most beautiful thing I've ever done. That's really beautiful. Yeah, no, the funny thing is is like every. Every just bought an Indie game. I bought unravel. WHERE LITERALLY THE ENTIRE GAME! You're playing like a piece of string. And it's how more tapped out from like civilization can I be where I'm like I just WANNA be string that's trying to find its way to a wish like like the most insane storyline of like. There's this string that needs to forty way home to A. Little bit of buttons that a grandma wants to make you do a sweater, and I'm like cool. Damn getting this. This is gonNA fucking awesome like system of a down in the background while like you know playing it super hard. I just want to make video game where the premise is that it's like Charles Dickens, but like no one's poor. That's really. Yeah chose to without all that. You grimy cab capitalism shit in the background. It's like I always think of that. Did you ever see the movie her? Yes, yeah, remember. That falls in love with a robot. Yeah, Joaquin Phoenix is like. Failed. Stand up comic or something you know. He's depressed in the future, but like he's always playing a video game, and that's what I think of every time I play an indie game. There's like that's the same vibe of every game is just like. This little like I'm just a little scared, but I don't know where. They played this weird like kind of like. cutesy factor, there's a lot of scary games, but I think there's an overwhelming amount of like platformer. Cutesy yes, yeah, it's. It's. It's almost like. You know literally. No, you're right. The Orange has to get back to its. Shut up. It's like. It's like is bride is writing these video games? Did you get Connor? Oh, bursts to write this video games scripts. Story only tier. That has to get back to Connor Ober is. Cup. Cup Head. It's about a cup of tea and he wants to get home to is girlfriend. Crazy though because it's like story of two cups that are like super violent and have been thrown out of their house. Cup It is about the the two girls one cup and like he's trying to get revenge on girls. That's heads all about he gets. His boy gets his Fran to fucking. Did you see those girls ticket, mate? We gotTa Kill Him Dude I can't it's like irreversible can't live with the trauma? Idea that! There's a version of two girls one cup. That's like the. Beauty and the beast within. The. Cup is like saying. He's got guys. candlestick is fucked up man. Sheet. Got Paid. The candlesticks! Fuck, in. The armoire and the clock are all like. Leave it alone. Okay, that's my friend. Stop shitting in the. Cup has a mother. Does girls are just loosen the mansion. shitting and everything and he's A. Grand Piano knowing is she nigga and the be another. Use It as it. Turns out the two girls. One Cup is just what happens when the last pedal falls off the rose. They start knocking on the door the. Middle Pedal comes down. To that. We after. We, we were in the car, just pounding Carl's junior. To shed would not understand Oh my God a great a cup. Finally. What I know is the toilet. That with the podcast at a lot of ways. To, you know it's it's just so fine to be stupid. Fun Home I got in the Chat Aristotle pointed out to us. You know what so it turns out that I was right to get mad at intendo. The list came out of like companies that still use prison labor to make their products and apparently knows why know what terrible fucking news dude. I didn't know that is. I'm not trying to be any sort of way about I assume like Chinese prison labor. I have no idea. It must be like manufacturing or something over there like I. Don't imagine it's like our state. Our state local prison is like. Ward and you want me to make Zelda game. Melons yeah, I don't know what's happening I. I don't know I mean it's tough to get into, but prison labor is used. To make a lot of things a Lotta time. It's far nuts us. It's sick. It's awful it's. Particularly, it wouldn't be surprised. I have to look it up though I. Don't want to have to stop using intendo. Shit that sucks man that really does blow man. Do you think there's anything WRONG WITH MICKEY MOUSE? Way, so Mario's no good. What about Mickey? All my dude? No more heroes man. It's like the candy. Then get doing anything these days. Before he was a cartoon and Mickey ran a prison. For War Crimes Against Them. Okay. Let's read some emails. Be Great! Yeah Okay I E mail actually I think we were just going to read the one email this time. In the second Listerine L. will read on the on the Patriot on. But this email is from Aden and the subject line is y'all ever uncover a repressed memory in quarantine? Kind of like trump did for that, but totally. We didn't know what we'd be biting off. Yeah exactly. And so their email says this. Hey, y'all names aiden I'm from Long Island New York New York up. The. From New York, so get excited. New York. I Newark with. I hear things are pretty fucked up right now. New York I get. Safe. I'm sorry your middle. Name is pizza and your last name is subway. I'm sorry you have to deal with. The most confidently stupid person next. Trout. And you know. Names eight in from Long Island New York so I was driving around my cousin when we drove down the stretch of road that uncovered something I hadn't really thought about. Since it happened, it wasn't the first time I've been down that road, but it was the first time I had been down at with someone new. So I started laughing, and I go yo, something crazy happened down here me and my friend were driving and in the media and we saw car hit some guy. I stopped to clap my hands to simulate the sound of impact and nervously laughed again. Quote it was crazy. He was there then there was a car then there was just shoes. WHOA. Oh my God. That is at some level. Yeah! Parentheses I don't know if he ended up okay, but we stopped and more capable people were handling it. Followed by more nervous laughter I pause for like fifteen seconds, and then I said out loud. That's not funny. And my cousin was like. No I'm sorry you experienced that. Know seeing a Wylie. Coyote way for someone to die like they literally shot out of their shoes. Oh! It's actually traumatizing. Literally like if you were like I saw guy smoking a cigar and it wasn't a cigar. It was actually a stick of dynamite and his head blew off. It'd be like you'd be like a funny and like no the worst thing that's ever happened. Well. That's so funny were I? Yeah, it was so funny. I was driving down here, and I saw this guy running, and then this wolf came up and painted a cave on a mountain, and just ran full speed into the mountain and tied I. Can Tell. Ya I've had so many experiences like that where I don't process it right away well, I think it's part of you to think like when you're young you, don't you? An entirely conceived of your own mortality? Thus anybody else's and I used to laugh at crazy shit. I look back and I'm like Damn Dude. I mean that's. One of the reasons kids I think are so mean I've been telling a story about being a kid, and literally like this man. It was so funny I was with my friends and there was. Overweight guy and my friend was like hey, fatty and we all laughed, and then no one laughs when I tell the story and I'm like Oh my God that was abusive and terrible and I can't believe we did that and everyone was like. Yeah, why don't you tell that story and Kids just like it was so funny, not funny. Yeah, when I remember the things I was laughing about was like me abusing other people. Just making fun of another child and classes slightly. Weirder me so therefore. It's like open open game, you know. Joking around as a kid I looking back and I WANNA. Clarify like I, I. Look I. Think Looking back. We can all realize that everyone got bullied in. Everyone bullied. Someone I was way more on the bullied end I was like mostly just bullied, and still even then I like a lot of the joking we were doing was just shitty towards a human. Yeah. Kids don't have a good sense of humor. That's why they don't write snl. There's nothing good. Vote! Kids were funnier than you. Could vote. The News. Show kids can can't vote and asking kids like really deep political questions like well as dumb as he doesn't understand that three branches of government. He's five. So he can't vote. More than a fifth grader. Doesn't understand checks and balances and the ad voting in front of a child. So anyway, Aden's email goes on to say. They were like no I'm sorry you experience that. And when she said that I realized that I had never really recounted that experienced since before. I talked about it in my head. It was so surreal it was kind of funny, but after experiencing my cousins empathy, I realized that horrible. It was I don't know if it would have happened like this if my cousin hadn't showed empathy. One of my friends, who I love so much would either hit me with a damn. That's crazy, man or joke about him, being scared out of his boots or some dark shit and on I would have went along. Just had time to reflect in general. And not be around other people who are willing to be dark slash with me. Not to my cousin isn't but we are less likely to goof on each other that way. anyways I love Y'all listing since suicide buddies in love both. Nice bum where you from and get stupid, you can say my name if you end up reading this on the pot or whatever Ha Smiley face, thanks, Aden and also yeah, I. Do think a lot of I. do think that a lot of things are being. Highlighted in ways they wouldn't have because of quarantine. Because yeah, you're only around a specific subset of people in your life, so their reflection of your experiences in your reflection of theirs are going to be like how you process things. Yeah, I think there's a lot of people probably stuck in quarantine with their families right now like. Just dude blowing. The amount of times time with my family about like Miss Remembering the situations in the past. Might and now that you add the lens of like political discussion. Did it's a nightmare for people actually yeah. Aristotle brought that up to us in the break. Aristotle, what I think is the absolute best idea ever for y'all ever prompt which is. y'All ever have a difficult racism discussion with your family. I want to know those stories and I think you're right. Hampton I think they're worse in quarantine because you're trapped. Yeah. There's a lot of like you don't have a job. They have a job. WHO's paying bells? Whatever but. I think it's I think it's happening, though regardless, it's like you can't help, but everyone's watching the news. Everyone's then showing their parents like by the way you watch probably worse news than I do. Here's what I watch. She not like. It's easier to like. Be in front of your parents right now and show them. That sorta stuff. I want to say also with the email that it's like. This cool I like I really do think that's awesome that you got some kind of empathy towards that sort of stuff in your life I mean it sounds like. Like. A healthy amount of dark joking is allowable. That's definitely where we went with the and it's like. I think I've reacted super with jokes at first because I'm not able to process stuff, but I think Look. Not Look at your life, but Kinda like invite a lot of empathy and your life, and then you can always you can always have the darkness I kind of feel bad that it took that long in your life for someone to ever be like. What did you feel about that right? You know how own so sorry maybe that. Wasn't a laughing thing. Maybe that was something that you're telling me because it's very sad to you. It's very personal, right you know and I would just encourage that because that's just that's very healthy and. You know just in the same way I think dark humor's a healthy kind of way to deal with things. I just hope people kind of balance out the embassy with the. Well I! Think the reality of it being dark humor, and yeah, you know it's funny. I don't think we've ever actually specifically talked about this part of it, but I think one of the reasons. We love this show and suicide, but he's so much. Is that like like suicide? Buddies at the? The taking it seriously is inherently already there, and so like Hampton is in the video looking at a playboy. And, it didn't distract me at all. It didn't get to me. God like it was taking. It seriously wasn't there and so we just like added the dark comedy part, but yeah. The only way that. Making dark jokes to process dark things is healthy is if you also take, it's. You know what I mean like. If you're just like being totally sociopathic about it and. Making jokes. Yeah, it didn't occur to me for a long time, but it's like I. The. And I'll say with this email it's. It's shining a light on what what that is. You know it's like. I feel a lot for this person. Just having you know they feel like it's such a treat that someone would regard their feelings you know with. You know a thought in kindness, and like totaling some of their attention to it I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I'm just saying like. That's really important. That's important for you to give other people, and that's important for you to get, and also like joking around is good. You know it's the whole. You know. They're both healthy. They're both necessary I would for me. And I hate it when people just take things seriously all the time. Do you know what I'm saying like? There is the other level to that, but that's the point is it's a balance. Yeah, I think you need both for sure and. And also I think. I think that might be it for the episode. Done it do not only. For the PODCASTS okay by. You guys, we come out with patriotic episodes every week. You can check that out. Patriot dot com slash y'all ever. We both have podcasts. Dave's podcast is get stupid minus called. Nice bum where you from. You can find those on pretty much. Every podcast platform all of them. Check. them out check out my youtube channel. We doing plus I just got into plugs. Youtube channel check my instagram. That's where I post most of my stand up videos and other dumb shit and also I'm trying to like I. Don't know. Spread the word about things that are happening as far as antiracism goes into funding the police and You're looking for things to share. We can help with that, too. We're both doing that. Also encourage you to keep doing that and. I mean protesting we. We've kind of been not making some episodes for Nice bum where you're from, but all the Patriarch that we're getting from last month this month we're donating. Would we like the bail project? We're looking into black lives. Matter and we're trying to do like a big kind of charity vetting thing and we don't want to like say like give to just one localized area, but I mean obviously people do that. That's just what we're. We're Kinda doing. Yeah. I think it's awesome man. I've been I've been making protest kits. In focusing on the past week that an protesting and So. Yeah, what I'm saying is we've been focusing on those things and. We're very interested in helping. People know where to donate it and galvanizing people to donate, so we're going to be doing something like that with you are fans over the next week? We just haven't figured out yet. Yeah, you guys are awesome. 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Carl Douglas

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Carl Douglas

"Many of you here have delighted like we have in listening to Carl Douglas Talk. We were fascinated by him. In the OJ Simpson documentary that one espn an Oscar and since he's become sort of lawyer for the show, great talker obviously heard him recently be very strong on the subject of race. His history with civil rights and law go way back, and so what I wanted to talk to him about is sort of his career. Because it's an interesting one, he's been part of the strongest black law firm in the history of this country. One could argue and so I just. Just wanted to talk to him about that. And representing OJ Simpson and representing Michael Jackson, so we will do that in a moment, but first I want to tell you that south beach session sponsored by Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter. You know is the smartest way to hire Thanks to Ziprecruiter for supporting everything here at Lebatardshow infringe checkout, stupidity, checkout, mystery crate Rate Subscribe Review Sarahspain. Meena Crimes Marty Smith, all parts of the Libertad and friends network, a Carl Douglas has become a friend of the show. Let's include him in on Lebatardshow friends and learn a little bit about his career. Carl Douglas, we discovered him like many of you. In the OJ Simpson documentary that is one of the finest pieces of television I ever seen, and he was almost the star of it. You can't really say he's The star. Because I guess OJ Simpson was the star, but his stories were so good and so rich and weirdly honest for a lawyer that I really enjoyed talking to him and so now I just want to talk to him. Him about other stories because he's a great storyteller, and because he doesn't mind you sort of giving you the truth behind some of what it is that he's experienced, so thank you for being on with us and I'm just going to get right to the questions. I want to hear about the night that Michael Jackson and Simpson were both calling you at the same time because they needed legal advice. Yes, December, twenty, seven, nineteen, ninety four. The trial of the century was about to start in January for some. We had taken two weeks off for Christmas holidays after picking a jury and we're GONNA start with. Heavy DNA testimony in January, so all the lawyers were, hunker down and get ready for the trial of the century for some reason Robert Shapiro and his family went to Hawaii. For those two weeks, and he checked into a hotel under an alias like Tony. Milo or something like that. And there was then behind. No one could understand how he could go on vacation during the most important two weeks before the trial that while we would learn a lot after that about just the spawning Kardashians. They live in a totally different world arrest this human being yes, that's extraordinarily bad legal judgment, but this was the guy that OJ. OJ trusted right correct. What's so there was a decision made announced to me that Johnny was gonNA become the lead lawyer. You GotTa understand that Bob. Shapiro had never really tried a murder case before Oj, Simpson so these he was commanding. It was a general commanding others into the war, but he had never been in a war before himself. Well, let's just say what it is right. He's totally overmatched as an attorney. He's the rich guy that OJ. Knows that he knows. Do I. Have it wrong. My factually wrong. You're saying that, not me. Dan was Hollywood fixer. Marlon Brando's lawyer Don amount of a deep on a good deal, but he wasn't known for being a trial lawyer, but Johnny was so December twenty seven I got a call from Oj Simpson, and he told me that he wanted me to become the coordinator of the team. that. He was going to be making a change and that Johnny was GonNa. Be The league lawyer. We all knew man. It was going to happen sooner or later, but that was the official change. Later that night. We also represent a Michael Jackson then and you gotta understand. Michael was really really paranoid and whenever Michael would call he would I use a disguised voice. Lowest Carl there. And I think yes, this is Carl. He didn't awhile. I did not know he could do a deep voice, so he was calling in disguise, he would actually call in disguise. And when you said you were, he would then change his voice. He would make me go to the very back of my house in the laundry room to the bathroom and close the door and talk with him, then even though my wife was in the far end sleeping and my five year old son was in the bit. But I had to go through my laundry room to my back bathroom and talk with him on the phone and that same day he talked with with me about his case so I was only the second person on earth. Being Johnny Cochran. Who had OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson both talking to them that same night about their case, Bro I could not sleep that entire nights. I'm wondering. How do you find? What's the back story on how you find yourself? I mean this is an uncommon path. Right? The idea that somebody in the mid nineties could go through everything America had gone through and become a black attorney, talking to Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson on the same night that to you in terms of celebrity star power like what's the path that leads to you ending up there because it's improbable, correct what people who are not? Not from Los Angeles a don't understand is Johnny Cochran was always as famous in Los Angeles before Oj, as he became nationwide after Oj when Michael Jackson I got in his problems with the first young kid, he called on Johnny Cochran when he was in Mexico. Not Knowing whether there were charges against him, because Johnny was just the man and Johnny Audio Garcetti. They were personal friends and found out there were no charges pending against Michael, and then Johnny Elizabeth Taylor's airplanes fly down to Mexico and debris Michael Jackson back from Mexico. It's funny Dan because we had to ask for my permission to represent OJ Simpson. Because Michael was our client I. And Michael was very much the brother all he needs help help out. But. We've I wanted to make sure that Michael was cool with are coming on the O.. J. Simpson, Chase What is your back story like? How do you end up and explained to me? Go back to your teenage years and explained to me how you arrive there and how improbable that path is okay, so Johnny Cochran. I'm raised from Los Angeles lives. I was to Johnny, was always the man or black Los Angeles because he represented people who were victimized by police. Came back to La after going to college at northwestern Chicago. Law Schools UC Berkeley and Berkeley and I came back to La and worked at the federal public defender's office for five years, representing people that are charged with federal crimes. Then Los Angeles was the bank robbery capital of the world, three ways and bates were on every corner. They did not have the PLEXIGLAS and the eighties. Eighty percent of the FBI was on bank robbery detail in the mid eighties. When I was there I was there for five. Five years one of my best buddies told me that Johnny Cochran of looking for a lawyer and I was someone come in and try case I can try a criminal case. And because Johnny had a criminal background, he knew I could try a civil case, and so I had that combination of US criminal background and a civil background that made it right for Michael. Jackson, and for O. J. Simpson. Could you talk to Johnny Cochran Away? A lot of the other attorneys there wouldn't dare talk to Johnny Cochran. Vote for better or for worse, I was one who always Dave Truth Dan I tell every client today that I have a condition. I suffer from terminal honesty. I will tell them what I think. Even if they may not wanna hear it man, because that's just the way I am I got a story I remember. It was in the post. OJ Simpson. Johnny Cochran was the biggest man on earth, and he was wearing a to pay for the bald spots in the center back of his head. We in the office knew it was a to pay, and it looks stupid. But. Everyone was afraid to tell Johnny dig that shit off your head. So. I gather with the staff. Is that I'M GONNA? Tell them and they said No. You will know you and I walked into his office I was the manager that first among equals of his staff. He was the lone partner in the law office of Johnny Cochran, Jr. but I was the managing lower than the firm, and I sat with them Johnny. Take that shit out your hair. It looks stupid. You are young as it is, and you don't need that. Shouldn't you're here? Because? Then? When he walked through the office, the incandescent lights shone differently in the two brave man, and it looks stupid, and I could not have Johnny Cochran my icon. My hero be made to look as stupid as it was, and it might have been maybe a week or two weeks or maybe a month. He kept that in, but because the me, he got out. Eventually. Do and he did thank you, so how about in that moment? Because that had to be a little bit jarring to hear because you reach a certain point in success Karl where people absolutely do not tell you the truth, they they. They'll let you look ridiculous because you've acquired so much success that people get afraid to tell you the real stuff. Perhaps that's who I am as a person Dan, but it reflects my love and respect for Johnny, Cochran one thing I can say about Johnny Cochran. Twelve years man and Johnny respected you one. If you can make a payroll and two, if you could try a case every year, I was there, I lost at least one case every year, and never once did. He criticized me for having lost the case because he knew you can't get a home run unless you're up there swinging the Batman, so it was my love of him. That may need tell him that. She was still been explained to me. They'll how he became an icon for you because. I don't know that the audience at large. This was a long time ago I. Don't know that the audience at large understands what Johnny Cochran was as a symbol. That is the value I think as a civil rights lawyer from Los Angeles of that Fabulous Oscar Award winning documentary, because the first four hours were nothing about. But it gave you some context of the historical connection between the American community, and the LAPD here and now one Dan can ever appreciate how the OJ Simpson verdict was. Without understanding that context and from young twenty seven year old lawyer. Family representing, you'll love back in the early eighties. Johnny became a symbol of the fight. Against All that was wrong in Los Angeles when you hear about the problems of black and Brown people and the police nationwide man. We were Ground Zero in Los Angeles for my entire life, so johnny was always the icon and the ball worked for that, which would brought the love of black and Brown people in Los Angeles? Is it fair to say that Johnny? Cochran was akin because? Because of the specific work that he was doing and shining light on that, he was essentially Al Sharpton that he was Jesse Jackson that he was park. Religious leader part legal leader part civil rights leader that he was. I mean I don't mean to turn him into a saint, because everybody is a little bit flawed, but you're talking about one of the great black leaders of all time. and. I, you do a disservice to him by comparing him to Jesse. Jackson and Al Sharpton Icee, so should I go to Martin Luther King should I go like honestly given the work that he was doing given that he's doing in the court system given that he's fighting an unjust systemic problem that not a lot of people outside of Los Angeles knew about who weren't black, and what's more, he was more than simply a civil rights icon and leader in the black community, because he joined the District Attorney's Office Win John Van De Kamp, was the DA and he was the number three man for? For three years in the District Attorney's office and while there he created the DA rollout unit were lawyers district attorney were sent on rollout to any and every officer involved shooting that was in nineteen, eighty, one, that was a ground-breaking then, and that still goes on today now across the country whenever there is an officer involved shooting. You're gonNA, have a district attorney. There somewhere close. It's GonNa. Be a whitewash. They're not gonNA find anything to charge the cops with a crime, but at least they're gonna be there and the cops know that they are there and that's something that he started erase. Of His commitment to the ideals of civil rights, and and and the plight of black and Brown people in Los Angeles and the world. Man Why do I do a disservice to him by comparing him putting him in the? Because, those were the famous black leaders of the time whether or not, they did what black folks wanted them doing whether they were good. Leaders are not as another is another matter. But why am I doing a disservice when I compare Johnny Cochran two of the most famous black leaders and civil rights that they've been. I know their history perhaps more than you or some of your listeners, and because of their history I take their. GRAVITAS in a greater context and they are not the the iconic black leaders that many may say because I know their history I appreciate what they've done. And their contribution to the SPROGOE, but their weaknesses to me overshadow my praise for their enlightenment. So did you see along the path? It go to Johnny's head. Did you see because there are certain inevitability to success and I gotta think that at. At some point, the ego ran amok there well, he always had a big ego bre Johnny Cochran live in Los, feeless, which was the exclusive white community in the seventies when nobody in black was doing it Johnny Cochran a drove a Rolls Royce in early seventies when nobody had rolls royces okay I remember after the trial within a month, we were in Miami at the Miami airport going to meet. This kid in in jail federal prison in Miami and Johnny got off the plane wearing a purple jacket walking down the center of the aisle in the Miami. Air Board a week after the verdict I this day back that one voice cell phones where? He was revelling walking bell. Now our way, no one who. The most dangerous place to be in America is between a trial lawyer and a camera. That's working less there being no now. We have massive egos man. His Swag specifically made him different for the time because the things that you're talking about their. Thick, they could not have been very common in fact I can see now where and how it is, you'd be attracted to somebody. who was that kind of showman? Johnny Cochran went to Los Angeles High School in the sixties before it was integrated. With Dustin Hoffman, he was, he went to Ucla and was a star on the court quarterback on the football team before it was fashionable, so he was always a bed of the curve man. I'm telling for him to be living Los. Angeles in the seventies and the black lawyer was so out of bounds. Lack lawyers then lived in Baldwin hills or Ladera. Heights other portions Nebraska Beverly Hills, win venture out to the hills of those feelers for him to be driving a Rolls Royce in the early Seventies. Okay, it was like the parade going through town and Johnny had this rare ability to connect with kings and poppers alike. He could go to a fancy restaurant and he go to knock us a little hole in the wall, an incompetent and eat hamburgers than have the juicer off his lips. When you say that it was inevitable that Johnny, Cochran was going to take over the Oj Simpson case. Are you saying because his merits meredith it so much more than any of the other lawyers? Are you saying that a percentage of that is because it became obvious very early that this needed to be represented by black people, because this was going to become a trial about race, or are you saying it's a mixture of the two or neither? It's a one. It became apparent as we were preparing for trial that Shapiro was behind the curve. We might have had met. I had eight or nine notebooks of reports and interviews and things, and you can tell in the meetings by asking questions where you were. And, we knew Shapiro with not up to speed. There were nine lawyers working at some point or other on on the case, all nine of US knew who the trial lawyer words. and Johnny had such charisma and such skill that it was clear he was gonna be the leader. There was not any dispute of the change when Oj chose to make the change, and it was OJ's choice. Is it at that moment that the realization dawns on everyone? Oh, this is going to be a trial about race. It's going to be large and symbolic. Or did that happen later? Did the decision on how it is to go about the defense happen later than Dan as as was reflected documentary, Shapiro had the thing about furman and raced before Johnny was ever in the case, and that's the irony man, because the DA's knew about about firms issues with race. Before we ever came in the case, and that for better or for worse, fixed the defense, you could not rightly do. Do a proper defense given that credit from the eighties where he said I was so angry at black people that I will beat them up. I want to the beliefs force. That was monitoring Evan, so you could not possibly allow that to go silent, so that stormed the defense from the very beginning, and so, how did you end up helping in? What ways did you end up helping Michael Jackson as you're going into. Your back room and he's paranoid. You gotTA. You gotTA. Have some amazing stories about how unusual. Cast Man I was really the first young African American professional that ever was around Michael Jackson, most of his advisors were Anglo and they were there, and when he brought Johnny Cochran on that was unique and unusual for him, because I was I had a unique perspective of both criminal and Civil Johnny brought me to handle the late in his case and I was. Was? Michael Jackson's lawyer off and on for ten years even after I left. Janis firm I would still advise. Michael Jackson I was involved. You remember there was a time when he was in trial in Santa Maria, and he on top of a van astor the court, and had an umbrella dancing on top of the van. I had a meeting with him after that. Michael Are you crazy? What are you doing on some van? You can't do that stuff. And because we were closed, I would like five or six years old and Michael, but we were close in age and I was my honest self. He was always surrounded by sycophants that did not want to slay the goose laying the golden egg. Oh, but he's such a child. Though wasn't. He was just a child. Never. Outlook. He never had a child then. It really was sad. He never had a childhood. From nine or ten, he was thrust into this regimented lifestyle that his father was able to create. So that they could rise to stardom so I get it, but he missed his childhood in that moment well, he spent it in his adulthood. He can remember I never felt like you say he didn't have a childhood. Okay, so he was made a business professional as a prodigy early on, but he clearly spent the next thirty years like the only way that I can explain to anybody the deviance. deviance of the charges that fell upon him is the idea that somewhere mentally he had atrophied where the only thing he could connect with in any way was kids because even seem to understand adult at all? He seemed to be somebody who was just a child, and it's no defensive. Because some of the things, he's been charged with pretty indefensible, even by your standards as someone who will defend. For reasonable and yet that's what I always assume with him that the charges are true because he had no earthly understanding of sexually how to be an adult like Egypt, had no connection point with adults. I understand your perspective. And because he was my clients, and some of my views are shaped by personal interviews and comments with him, I'm going to hold off giving Mike respected are but a lot of things. I was for example lawyer that traveled to Vegas Win. The first settlement agreement was signed by him. I was the witness he was at a bungalow in Vegas and I'm not gonNA close. They're getting us. Is Garowe. In. Could. Open the door he comes in, and my goal was a musical genius. He was not the most area night. He did not have the greatest attention span. He had he had a security guard for twenty years, Bill. and Bill would tell us okay guys when you're meeting when Michael Starts Humming, then you know it's time to stop the meeting. and. We would. We would have a meeting me. Johnny Howard Weitzman we would fly to never land from the Santa Monica Airport and helicopter the coolest thing in the world Kobe my heart's with you, but it's a cool thing in the world flying helicopters to a meeting. And, we Li- there about forty minutes done to Ohi, meet with Michael in one of his officers, that at the ranch and talk about the case, and after about two hundred eight twenty baht minutes, he was starting. And you knew it was about he was losing attention span. It was time to go then, but he did have a unique life. It was not enjoyable. Be careful what you ask for. He was a prisoner of his success. He was a he was a prisoner. He was unhappy like that. That had to be clear right because. There was no freedom in the way that he was living. It sort of the what you're saying. It's the Gypsy curse. May you get everything in life that you wish for because it's a curse, but but Dan I. Don't know if he was unhappy because everything he wanted he was able to obtain. So I don't know the. From my perspective, it wasn't fun, but I can't say he was unhappy. So, what else do you have I? Don't want to save it for another podcast. I want to I want to talk about the the ways in which you found him. And Unusual I went to trump towers and met with him at the Penthouse in the nineties I. Donald Donald Apartment was across the hall I was told he had the most fabulous. Fifth Avenue from. Top fabulous view. He showed me a picture of his children that he had in a book there and I had a question of whether there was a drop of black blood in the children. And I said my go cut a move and he would. And cut a move. That Michael Play something on the baby grand and he would just go to baby man and. The, he was at once a music code. G Savant. Survive and you can understand that moment his genius. Very few people get access to that right. Very few people never mind he. It was just he and I, and the apart I saw another person there, and it's a ridiculous apartment. The apartment. His whole life was absurd in like you saw the spending spree that. That channel ABC. Televised of him spending like three million dollars in a column minutes in Las Vegas it was his house, and Neverland was the God es over sized statues. Fountain caricatures. All kinds of shit in there and it was ridiculous all of that I'm sure very very expensive. You know, but like in video I buy that and that and that and that that and that and that is good. It was oversized gold. Plated Shit, it was. So, you're so you're. Did you go on any of those? Where you around for any of those spending sprees? Because I did want to ask and this is an indelicate question, but when you say OJ Simpson had nine lawyers, it does make me wonder what those billable hours looked like like. I don't I. Don't know if it's been reported. What his defense cost, but it had to have been. A large fortune. J Simpson is still alive. And he takes the position that the attorney client privilege remains until his last breath, and I step that okay very good, so I'm asking you not an indelicate question, an illegal one. Let me let me tell you this. The. Your listeners cannot understand how liberating it was that as a defense lawyer, you had virtually the unlimited ability to do anything needed to to defend your client and the the the lesson of the OJ Simpson trial. I say is how underfunded public defender agencies are all around the world, so that the defense cannot contest the awesome power of the state man we add some of. Of the best experts I had ever seen in my life I have been a lawyer twenty years then we would have four five investigators. Are Beck and call? That was tremendously liberating, but we were able to do that and we need to do that to contest the power of the DA's office. They had more lawyers. They had more investigators. They had more testing done. But you had unlimited resources no like. No no clear there was a budget. OJ Hat a business lawyer. Johnnie Cochran firm was underpaid. Some would say. He got a great deal for the money he spent on. Certainly, there were collateral benefits of the representation that you balance. Okay interesting, actually that's interesting, because you guys knew that handling that case and winning that case is something that sets a set sets everybody up for life for life. Okay. Yes. So of course, you can give OJ Simpson a bit of a discount. If that's the reward, because it's a trial of the century and yeah you, you give a little off the top so that you get it on the macro on the back end, but would you don't? We didn't appreciate what we I worked. At one trial for eighteen months of my life and I was primarily a civil lawyer, and during the eighteen months we would not bringing in civil cases at the same pace, so our firm suffer dramatically after o J. I had not trying a criminal case for ten years for Jason Okay I was a civil war making money. What kind of arguments would you and Johnny get into regarding these cases that we're talking about like how? How harmonious is all of that? And how contentious is it? You got one. I was always one to say my peace. And Johnny always gave me the flexibility to save my peace, and he respected my opinion case in point. Reginald Denny during the riots. The trucker who had a brick thrown on his ed K. Johnny got a call from Reginald Denny. and Johnny began representing Denny. I thought he shouldn't. Because I didn't. WanNa, suit. Thought. That wouldn't look good. And so. God? And we had a big argument about the wisdom and the Maryland, the whole permit the merits. We were an iconic rights firm, but what we decided that we're not gonNA do the brothers we sued the city of Los Angeles were failing to come to his aid. That was how we were able to use the law Ben Officially, but there was great internal strife and struggle about whether to accept that case for example. How black was the law firm? I was there twelve years we had one why lawyer for about a year and a half a former police officer. We thought that was unique. We had an interracial staff support staff. We had Asian secretaries although we were primarily primarily african-american. How unusual was that at the time? In Los Angeles and they as a plaintiff firm, I would say in Los Angeles today. There are fewer than twenty five black lawyers who make half of their money as a plaintiff, personal injury lawyer, and that's an a city of nine million most African American lawyers worked for the government's or they do defense work, because they are the criminal lawyers, because there is greater predictability in that I have to win in order to keep my doors open, so that helps that impacts. What cases I? Take how my pipeline is going. I gotTa try the case to get him to celebrate. That's why this check del for me so badly as a plaintiff lawyer, because the one thing you need is a firm trial date to get insurance companies to pay money in California. There won't be the trial for nine months three months after that. Really impacts what we can do as lawyers. What would look like second place in terms of the history of America, a law firm with this kind of black power. Law Firm where a black lawyer is empowering black people to defend black people like does this represent the strongest law firm America's no in this realm, and what to second place look like if it does. That's an interesting question. I've never been asked that question. I don't think of myself as a black lawyer who has a black firm, I am a lawyer who happens to be black who has a firm who represents people that look like me? So I have white clients. I Have Asian clients. I relish and welcome the chance to have more white plans because they get paid more money again but Carl hold on your a civil rights. Civil Rights affirm like I'm trying to figure out what else in America looked like it at the time or since. In California in Los Angeles County. There are less than. Five. African American Civil Rights plaintiff less than three aggregate american-based civil rights for my firm. The Cochran firm is still alive in Los Angeles and there and there may be. One or two smaller firms with two or three lawyers. You gotTA understand. Los Angeles. The city is only five or six percent black. So. It's hard to sustain too much into a big market for strictly black law firms. That's just the reality of our numbers. There probably are larger numbers in Washington. D. C. I'm sure I know. There are large numbers in Atlanta in new. York City I am sure and Chicago. I am sure as well in Detroit. I know that buddies they're. They're the reason that I'm asking the question as because I think, and it's odd for me to be trumpeting your horn. I think you're actually being falsely modest here because I believe that the place that you worked was a civil rights powerhouse fueled by unusual black power because you had. Had, an uncommon identifying point with much of your clientele was that the white lawyer couldn't possibly understand and it ended up costing itself in the Oj Simpson trial where you saw the white lawyer pushed out of the way because OJ Simpson realized. Oh, no I need to get with these black guys. They understand the history of Los Angeles. They're going to be able to actually tell the story in a way that the guy from Brentwood couldn't possibly tell correct and rarely have been accused of false modesty. But but it is. It's a pioneer in law firm like that's the reason that Johnny Cochran was an icon to you. I'm talking to you right now. I see. Jimmy Hendrix in the background. Like you are your of time, you are of a time in a totally different America you were living in a time where that was the epicenter of some really interesting, societal legal and civil rights stuff. Johnny Cochrane in a Purple Jacket is sitting here. Saying this is my constituency. Watch what I can do with a bunch of black lawyers with Swaggie Smart Watch what I can do showing the rest of America the injustices in Los Angeles and. That's why I like your show, and I like doing stuff for us because you can connect and relate to that, even in a sports context men unlike few of your contemporaries. That's a good thing for you. Well thank you for saying that but I I still don't understand why you're not willing to say hey, our law firm was a bad ass. Pioneering Law Firm like why am I the one saying at four? You wired you the one saying. We were bad ass high near lawfirm because we were not afraid to lose, okay, and Johnny had such success before I even joined their man. I just wrote away man my point. Is that Michael Jackson and Oj? Simpson didn't end up there by accident sure. I mean that that's how that that that's how that ends up happening because they realize where it is that people understand even. The criminally misunderstood because I don't know whether you saw that. Hbo Documentary or not, but to me from my vantage point on the Michael Jackson stuff. I thought that it became obvious in that documentary that he is guilty of pedophilia like I am I, being an idiot there. Because I thought, the documentary was very persuasive. It's interesting because win. I represented Michael during the first time he was charged. Those two guys were exhibits one and two supporting Michael Wait Rosen. They weren't they were the poster boys. Supporting that nothing ever went on. A and they sounded very believable to me, but it's so ironic man because they were the poster boys you know. Every time so you watch the documentary. And what do you think to yourself because I'm finding? They're saying the exact opposite now and I'm finding them saying the opposite to be persuasive. Listened to their version, I don't have I'm a dish. CARE is I didn't see bill I saw recently last six months or so, and their story sounded believable to me. Let me say that okay. That's because you can get to it right as someone who was representing the the other side. Yeah, but but at the time do you have any remorse or guilt about the idea? And this is something that is deeply deeply embedded in the law. Though no, I'm just wondering. If at any point, there is some crime that comes across your desk where you say this is something that I can't defend. It's not defensible. Oh! Atl- I have been a lawyer for forty years I. Don't do child molestation cases ironically I. Don't handle rate cases I don't like them. I don't handle cases of somebody being up an old lady on all black lady I, recognize an acknowledged their rights to have earned strong competent counsel I choose not to be that council. Okay so certainly. A murder case and problem me drug case. that the irony is land. The grocer takes the drug man's money. The realtor takes the drug man's money. You know the Carmen takes the drug man's money. Give me a break. Okay, so when you say though that you wouldn't you don't take. A? Child Abuse Cases that Michael Jackson one is one of the most famous of all time. I wasn't employees in an office. He said he didn't do it. Silent Me Okay. And it was Michael Jackson. Well, but know that what you're saying there seems to. Keep going because. I'm a trial lawyer. I want to be on the line with the ball in my hand and the Corcoran down. Okay. It is the makeup that. Eighty percent of lawyers are not trial lawyers. There's a certain make up for those of us than are I. AM Super Hyper, competitive I'm a modern day gunslinger. When I realized I wasn't on the basic three had to go. Works. So I look at ESPN CNN and the food network. Because I'm a cooking competition. Their heels so the chance to work on Michael Jackson's case. I don't care if it were filmed and it happened and a church letting out for for Bar Mitzvah. So. If Michael Jackson had beaten up an old woman, and all of the other awful stuff you might have to, because you're a trial lawyer. First and foremost, you gotta go. Is, they. West. We'll come. Did you without question man come on. Did you hit yourself in the side of the head? Okay, let's end on that note Carl. Good talking to you. It's always good talking to you. It's always entertaining. Thank you for being with us. That was funny and it was interesting. Then my pleasure out again, please. Thanks to Carl Douglas for his time and his work. Thank you for listening again. We ask you to rate subscribe and review. 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Kim Goldman on Confronting OJ Simpson

The First Degree

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Kim Goldman on Confronting OJ Simpson

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But what day is it billy. It's happy national poets day are there any others isn't doing anything. It was like national senior citizens edison's day. You know what's better than poets because you don't love. Our seniors. Belly loves the poem. I don't love the l. Power just playing devil's advocate advocate without but i was voted class poet in high school <hes> i know you've talked about it before yes but last week my first book went and stores and while it definitely has a very goth poetic title chase darkness with me inside it's about me solving murders instead of writing goth poetry and of course. I had to thank you ladies. These and i would like to give you the i would. I think alexis you should read it more than than billy. Ask what i did. Introduce you to billy jackley rude so let's see to alexis linkletter for helping me sore in jack advantage for keeping me grounded. That's right always here to knock you back. That's right my geology of bringing back down. I relate to you guys so thank you. We love you more those very sweet. It did not have to thank me but i'm glad you did. No i think you should should think honestly if i didn't think alexis i know it. Would i would of heard for it not that not that that's the reason why did it but yeah alexis would be giving you shit forever if he didn't think or a very emotional person i would have woken up with a horse head. Absolutely we what god if reference and i give night dessert i give back. Yes exactly all right well. That's enough of that so let's turn on the lights. Let's turn your anxiety because this could be in in the answering machine of ron goldman june twelfth nineteen ninety-four ron ron ron ron and bonehead. It's almost ten from debating. If i'm just gonna drive over to your house or not want to get moving here probably at about ten fifteen. He minutes calling iran. What's up derek twenty after ten wake up around you. What are you doing all right. I'm gonna finish fish watching the show and i'll probably get over later ron where are you. There's eleven call me as soon as you get up thinking we'll start heading over there in a little bit all right later hey ron. This is stuart. It's about ten forty five. I just those curious. If you wanted to come to work today so talk to you later bye iran it's patty. I know your work so leave a message and it's twelve and i know it's probably really busy. I don't want to come visit that would be great paying spy tehrani steve. I don't know if you're looking at what's going on. Today was a coincidence oversaw obviously run ron. This is jeffrey. If you're dead men you'll hear from above i love. I just heard on the news right. Now i think cross and i'm hoping it's not you run around town like fast wildfire trying to get a hold of your parents. Love you man take hey ron. Dot com hope you're doing well because i was just watch the news and they said they found they found somebody dead named ron goldman over brentwood on bundy. I'm just like fuck. That's how you feel calling back. Let me know you're okay so we're still doing well. You run. It's trash. I was just calling you back and i wanted to see if you're okay okay bye heireann. This is is kelly <hes> pity call me. We heard something on the news and i just wanna make sure it's not you call me by as soon as possible anytime tonight. Okay okay by ron. This is kimberly. It's monday night. I haven't talked to you in a while. Heather burr just called me and said something happen to you. There's something didn't happen to you. Call me back. I need to talk to you by just wanted to hear your voice from wartime. I'll for him in terms of what you just heard. We got our hands on the transcripts of messages left on the answering machine of ron goldman on june twelfth nineteen ninety-four which was the day of his murder. Those were not the real messages left by his loved. Ones as those were not available also we had them recreated by friends and family of ours who are willing to do that for us to try to paint a picture of the sense of urgency felts on that day in how things moved from concern to panic to horror. We are discussing the o._j. Case today but unlike other other times the story has been told. We're focusing on this episode on ronald goldman. He's been referred to as the forgotten victim many times in association with this case and we really wanted to educate everybody who thinks they know everything about the o._j. Simpson case a little bit more about ron goldman and his experience on june twelfth nineteen ninety four. It was a sunday in los angeles. The gay pride parade was happening along santa monica a couple of art in west hollywood in the third game of the n._b._a. Finals was on t._v. People were heading to the feeders to watch counter reeves and sandra bullock alec deal with a bomb on a bus in the movie speed but a little after ten pm on a quiet street in the l._a. Suburb of brentwood to people bill would be murdered. What happened that night. In los angeles would become one of the most talked about crimes in the history of not only the united states but the world the first degree exists because we wanted to tell stories of crime through the eyes of someone who was one degree away from the murder and our guest today. It's quite possibly the most recognizable. I agree history. She has kim goldman sister of ron goldman. They're more crime shows and podcasts than ever before but if you do search for the names ron goldman and co brown on the podcasts up surprisingly nothing really comes up and we understand why people think that they've seen it all they've they've heard it all and the investigation into the murders of ron goldman and nicole brown are probably one of the most analyzed crime in american history after the kennedy assassination so what is new that you've never heard before even if you're an expert on the o. J. simpson case is really a deep dive into kim goldman's perspective. She has a new podcast called confronting o._j. In which she essentially is talking to everybody involved in the case and interviewing them like what went wrong. How how did this return inoculate verdict in sort of piecing together picking things apart and interviewing the people who were directly involved in not just that outcome because that we learned is kind of something that was beyond on anyone's control but we are looking at a process that kim is going through and you can follow along with her honor podcast and it's just been incredible and there is a lot of evidence from the crime scene that wasn't presented in the trial in this episode we are we're going to focus on the crime itself in chronological order including all of the evidence that has come to light over the last twenty five years in addition to that getting into the experience silence of kim who the goldmans weren't connected to o._j. This was a complete imagine hearing the news of o._j. Simpson and my brother what yeah <hes> like. The browns nicole is married to o._j. This was just like a cosmic shuffling of the deck like i always say in just the shock and horror of having your family implicated in this unwillingly has baffles me to this day so it is going to be a completely new perspective on this case in the last thing i'll say before we get started is that we're operating under the assumption that you have at least a cursory understanding of the case. You know what the outcome was. In in the trial. You know the impact it had you know that he's guilty even though he was acquitted so i say this because there's no possible way to go over every nook nuking cranny of this investigation of this case of the emotional and pub culture toll it had on the world so that being said we're we're ready to go and please don't crucify if we miss anything. There's just no way to get it in an hour even to okay. Are you ready for your next. Benjamin show i've got it for you and it's called carnival row so carnival row is a one hour fantasy drama series starring orlando bloom and caridad levin gene. The series is set in a victorian fantasy world filled with mythological creatures whose exotic homelands were invaded by the empires of man they struggle to coexist with humans are forbidden to live love or fly with freedom. Orlando bloom plays it right kroft phyllis straight and he's a police inspector. Who's investigating a string of a gruesome murders. Threatening the uneasy peace of the row cara delevingne plays at vignettes stone moss a ferry refugee who flees her wartorn homeland come to burg where she must contend not only with rampant human prejudice against her kind but with the secrets that have followed her to the new land but even in darkness darkness hope lives and this human detective and ferry rekindled their dangerous affair despite increasingly intolerant society come together on august thirtieth to watch carnival leroux only on amazon prime video this labor day weekend so here we go the morning of june twelfth nineteen ninety four ron wakes up brentwood apartment at sixteen sixty three core avenue in brentwood he gets dressed and goes to barrington field just south of sunset boulevard play play softball with his friends the game ends and he heads back to his brentwood apartment and gets dressed for work four twenty five. He leaves his his apartment and walks the five minute track to mesolithic restaurant four thirty he clocks into a shift. It's six thirty during his shift ron runs into his friend nicole brown simpson. She's their kids and family to celebrate her daughter. Sydney's dance recital aside all they say a quick hello wrong. It's back to work. Nicole eats dinner and leaves nine thirty three wrong clocks out of work and starts his closing duties at meslin anna nine thirty seven the cole's mother judy brown calls mezzaluna to let them know that she left her glasses there during dinner nine forty-five nicole calls muzzle luna about the glasses speaks to ron who insists on dropping the glasses nicole's to save for the trip of picking them up ron ron hangs up with nicole takes the glasses and goes home to take a shower and change. He leaves his apartment and drives the six blocks to nicole's condominium. It's now just past ten ron walks up to the condo at eight seventy five five south bundy drive just a half mile from the muzzle in a restaurant. Nicole's condo sits in the center of three other condo's. They all have a small private courtyard right at the front end to enter each one of them from the front. You have to go through a gate now. What we're about to tell you is a mixture of the evidence that was presented at trial and the killer's confession that was presented in a manuscript for a book. It's iran walks past the other condos and arrives at eight seventy five. He goes up a short ten foot brick covered walkway way surrounded on both sides by lots of foliage and presumably rings the buzzer at the gate be let in enters through the gate in season a coal but before ron can give her the glasses a figure appears out of the darkness and ron recognizes the man anyone in the entire western world would have recognized ignites this man he's wearing a stocking cap and gloves and his wearing all-black the man hits nicole knocking her out ron steps in to come mm to the aid of his friend in split-second ron is in rescue mode. He's thinking less about fighting more about trying to make sure nicole is okay but in that split second the attacker hits ron with a punch on the right side of his face ron falls to the ground rana's six but one hundred and seventy one pounds but the attacker is a big man six one two hundred twelve pounds and he's built like a world class athlete. He's built like a guy who could rush over a two thousand yards and a single n._f._l. Season the attacker butts refer to him by his nickname o._j. O._j. produces a fixed blade serrated knife and place it at ron's neck picking him up off the ground. He's now grab bronze arms and put them behind his back and he is holding the knife at his throat in. He's talking to ron. You think you're tough motherfucker. He says the knife right at ron's throat. Ron tries to free himself from o._j.'s grasp his arms pinned so he starts trying to kick his way out with o._j. Holding his arms from behind ron begins to lift his legs o._j. Moves the knife away from his neck and starts to established in the legs over and over and over again to get him to stop he turns them around and begins stabbing ron and the abdomen chest <music> neck and face this surprise attack the knife wounds the speed and ferocity of the attack too much ron is not going to make it but he kept to putting up a defensive posture in the attacker who is wearing leather gloves loses a glove and the struggle and because of the loss glove he actually cuts his own hand on his own knife during the attack as you stabbing wrong. He also lost the knit cap he'd been wearing o._j. Thrust the knife into the left side of ron's neck cutting his jugular ron falls backwards into the corner of the courtyard between two trees. He dies within seconds in the attacker o._j. Is now a killer o._j. Now goes to nicole was lying inside. The courtyard orbit the bottom of the steps heading up to the condo o. J. picks up nicole and holds a knife to or throat from behind just like he did with ron. He thrusts rests the knife into her neck cutting so deep that he nearly decapitates his ex wife. The knife actually knicks her spinal cord with the blood no longer reaching her brain. Nicole also dies within mere seconds. The frenzy is now over o._j. Possibly discovers that he's missing a hat and one of his loves but since the courtyard is so dark he can't find them and there's a lot of blood on the scene in the darkness. He doesn't realize that he's left. A lot of footprints blood has now around ten fifteen two hours later to nicole's neighbors find her body and they call the police and the police find that there are two bodies in front of nine seventy five bundu once the police arrive on the scene in the sun comes up this double homicide hits the news but wanted for it one one eighty seven and westville eighty effect named arthur chaim nicole simpson and the man found with her had had multiple wounds. J simpson has not been seen since he arrived late yesterday at his brentwood estate family members and friends stayed with him through the night and continued arriving today. The police forensics team began a search of the crime scene and o._j. Simpson's home investigators removed several pieces of evidence from both properties a blood-soaked glove according the los angeles times found that o._j. Simpson's home and believed us during the killings a second newspaper reports. The matching glove was found at the crime scene. Police refused and say anything about hoping investigation or the nature of mrs simpson's relationship to ronald goldman the second victim so this is los angeles. One of the victims here is the wife of celebrity the athlete who was very loved so to say that the media latched onto this and ran with it is obviously understatement anyone listening to this would know doc <hes> what a lot of people don't notice is reporting on ron initial reporting on ron. It was nicole brown simpson ex-wife of o._j. Simpson and a man dan or he was an anonymous man for unidentified man. You got to understand like the confusion of of ron's family. This caused a lot of confusion because even when they did start say ron goldman. That's the name in los angeles. That's pretty common ron goldman. I bet you there's at least two hundred of them. So then it's like doc you move to that couldn't be my ron goldman so the reports of ron's murderers spread and friends flooded his answering machine with frantic left-field messages some of which we heard at the top of our episode and they were hoping this week it's gotta be different ron goldman but there were more than fifteen gene messages the day after these murders on ron's machine in the messages left before the news of the killings depicted a popular her guy one caller asking him to pets. It got people asking him to go to drinks and dinner to play softball. I mean he was a very very well liked person. You could tell that from something as small as his answering machine. You know my brother he he was very he was very optimistic. He had very positive outlook. You know he always thought that i was daddy's angel on and so we had a lot out of competition by competition with me and i mean that because he thought i was like the favorite kid i just was more studios. I was more focused <hes> i was probably because i don't want to get in trouble. I was more responsible for the two of us but i was envious of his care. Free like energetic way that he looked at life like my brother wasn't isn't a book smart kinda guy. Though he did o'kane school he just he loved life like he just wanted to embrace all. I was probably a little bit more hesitant because i had rules. I was supposed to follow so i think i envied his approach and as he got older and you know when we moved to california he just he soaked up here. He just really brother was like a geeky kid. When we were in chicago and came to california in the san like we always said the sun kissed him if you know what he just blossomed into this gorgeous man who just like started working out and he got tan and he just found his found his voice here so this double double homicide hit the news really really hard <hes> but despite that the goldmans didn't hear the news until five pm the day after the murders so patty goldman who was ron goldman stepmother was just enjoying an afternoon at home when she got a weird message on her voicemail machine and basically glee it was the manager of mezzaluna looking for ron saying that he didn't call in for a schedule and it alarmed her. It's one of those things where it's like. You get one of these calls so and so didn't show up here emergency contact they call the number and then when she called him back he just jam looking for ronnie didn't calling for a schedule. She scolded <music> at him and said why would you call me and worry that. I thought something was wrong in the manager apologize. I'm sorry i'm just looking for ron yeah so our later ron's father comes home and and he's walking through the door and patty <hes> yells at him fred hurry up pick up the phone. You have to talk to somebody. Something has happened to ron and the call breath was actually from the coroner's office. The woman asked fred. Did you hear today that nicole brown simpson has been murdered then she said well. I hate to tell you this but your son ron was the other victim and with those words their lives were changed forever and their lives were changed forever and one of the first things that the police and the goldmans probably wanted to figure out was how do these people how did ron end up there so how exactly did ron nicole and o._j. Converge on that night ron goldman was introduced to nicole simpson by mutual a friend at a starbucks coffee shop two months before the murders for awhile ron and his friend didn't even know that nicole was o._j.'s acts ron gradually became pows the coal they'd work out at the same gym she let him drive her white ferrari which is tight tight tight and she invited him to our table at the renaissance where she dined and with a handful of friends on thursday nights their relationship was platonic but it wasn't perceived that way in the media because there was a ton of speculation that made it seem like they were involved in a romantic relationship not just ended up not really being true and it was completely unfounded. People just speculate which happens all the time people draw conclusions about women all the time where it's like if someone's killed with someone you assume something is going on but people had a difficult time believing that a twenty five year olds kind of hunky guy in in a single woman driving ferrari could be platonic friends so many jump to conclusions about ron. He was a waiter and he was a sometimes model. His driver's license photo he looked really really gorgeous is head was looked. His head was cocked back. He was wearing a bandana hit amazing hair in these images circulated in rumors spread in an instant the world had created its own ron goldman a character that smooth talking tanned intoned and they may <unk> judgments about that which were unfounded and we see this often in many cases. You don't usually see it happening men so this is kind of unique. Where are you know they meet these assumptions about him. In broadcast that all over the world but wrong was a really fun guy and he actually also appeared as a contestant on a dating game. Show called studs in the show was hosted by comedian. Mark decarlo and golden was introduced as a twenty three year old tennis pro. This was two years before the murders and at the end of the episode ron was paired up with a young woman named diane. Hey ron goldman the twenty-three-year-old tennis pro. Give a big hand for coming front. We'll start with you. You make a good impression on the phone with a woman <hes>. I guess i don't like to talk on the phone so i'm kind of blind to the plane going be ready to eight. I'll be there be there okay. We asked what a <music> what their impressions were of when they talk to you on the phone ron and here's what they said one of them said rough wild and oh so sexy in this guy is mutual macho date with folly ali shit. Oh come on say right right paul short connie connie constance. I said this guy is mu much because when i talked to him on the phone he had deep voice like a mansion. Good how this guy better be hot with personnel. That radio personality was great or you. Just kinda china like you said straightforward on the phone to the point and akaki hearing that clip of ron is such a incredible glimpse into who he is just a guy who's twenty-five twenty-five he's young. He loves life. He's he's confident. He's having a good time but now we have to get back into the reality of what the goldmans we're. We're facing in the days. Following ron smarter ron's autopsy was conducted two days after his death onto fourteenth according to the report he died by multiple sharp force injuries including the following a sharp i wound to the neck doc left side with transaction of left internal jugular vein multiple stab wounds on his chest abdomen and left thigh multiple incised wounds of a scalp face neck chest and a defensive wound on his left hand. There are multiple abrasions on his upper extremities hands also believed to be defensive wounds from the autopsy also indicated that the injuries were incurred heard before his death so kim and ron moves from buffalo grove indiana after their father fred and their mother sharon divorce in nineteen seventy four after spending a brief time with his mother ron move to southern california to live with his father and kim in one thousand nine hundred eighty six you know my dad was awarded sole custody of my brother and i in the seventies which was crazy you know that wasn't in the seventies for a father <hes> <hes> and i i think as a result of some of the the trauma with my birth mom leaving some of the things that occurred and and my dad being a a really dedicated working father my brother and i were left. You know it's probably negative latchkey kids. I mean that's what we were and you know. Get both keys your neck and we'd walk home from school and <hes> we just took really good care of each other out of out of a necessity but also because my dad just created a really loving nurturing torturing home on the my dad came home. We've did our homework and we made sure we ate dinner and he chapter homework. I mean it was a pretty disciplined home. <hes> but my dad's big mush pot and he's the big love and just was really supportive in encouraging but we just had had to get business done so i think there was a lot of brother just making sure that we were taking care of each other taking care the house making sure the dog was fed. The cats fed like you know our chores were done and but oughta that we just grew intensely close <hes> because we didn't have anybody else we didn't in have an extended family that we were super close with it really was just the three of us and i think that was that was just an amazing the situation that we were in <hes> than my car accident happened our car accident. My brother and i just you know just deepened our connection because it was very tragic. Check on. I don't know i'm just i feel really lucky that move that my brother and my dad were the people that had the most profound impact on me. I just chill really lucky for that. I just i always did better with with with boys. I was like a little rough ahead all the hand-me-downs you know but he just he was very much my protector and he wasn't embarrassed by me year ashamed of me and i love hearing his friends talk about like i think it was jeff president who sad you know we sometimes we run away that you were there like your brothers like now. She's sticking around and it was just always looking out looking over shoulder making sure that i was in in close proximity which didn't change as we got older. I think it's so sweet i mean we've talked about her podcast in this episode already and just the fact that they we're called three musketeers and they have like a little modern family where at the time it was super unusual for fathers to get custody of the kids in this way and the mom was kind of absentee and kim talk so lovingly about just this warm amazing environment curated which is so nice. That's wonderful and you. You were crying when you were hearing him talk. I can't even listen to it. I know it's too emotional. Yes sir ron gets to l._a. And he has dreams he wants to get married. He wants to have a son and he also wants to open his own restaurant and the place would have no name. He said he liked. He wanted to be like the rocker. Once called prints spreads the restaurant would be represented by a symbol the egyptian which is the symbol of eternal life yeah. Why do you think that simple like. Do you think you know the story of the tattoo to my brother had a tattoo of <hes> you know with his friend lauren <hes> it's a symbol of eternal life. I don't know if he thought that at the moment or if it was really because lauren suggested and he's like i'll do what i don't really know but he loved he loved his tattoo <hes> and my dad not so much <hes> but <hes> you know i love that he embraces the point that the outlined his business plans. You know there was a shape of an onc in the business plans plans for the restaurant and then their walls. Would i mean it was like it. Just it spoke to him. I think he kind of grew into it and i think i. I think that you know that it kind of speaks to him to that. He's opened that he wasn't so headstrong uncertain things that he's gone just just kind of open to life happening and and being welcoming into the things that were around him ron surfed. He rollerbladed played volleyball on the beach. He spent his free nights in the clubs and his mornings at the gym brentwood he did some modelling for armani but mostly he kept himself afloat working as a waiter at places like truly yours california pizza kitchen mezzaluna also found time to pitch in at the thousand oaks united cerebral palsy residents you turn this floor there into a makeshift salon on and he moves the residents hair before outings to the movies or to the beach he was doing a lot more than twenty five year olds i know and this monster this motherfucker snuffed out his life before he got to reach the big milestones we all hey everyone so the fact that fun twenty nineteen fall box is on sale now and i just got my box and i've been obsessed rest with these harper and ari exfoliating sugar cubes that are green and they fit when you put them in the bathtub and they are amazing so what facts it is women's lifestyle style subscription box filled with large size not travel size or sample size but large-sized products beauty fitness health wellness everything that you could ever want to splurge for yourself when you're feeling that it's to go shopping but there is a catch in that is that they don't last long they sell out really quickly because the value of these boxes is huge and everybody's waiting to get one as soon as they go on sale in the items and every box customizable and i chose this kate spade makeup toe that is so cute. 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You're figuring it out exactly it wasn't literally until just <hes> probably the last year of his life that he found his calling and what he wanted to do and <hes> you know he was ready to come to my dad with that information and he was just kind of stepping into the next phase <hes> but at the end of the day said this million times my brother was the last couple minutes of his life released sums up. Who was he stayed to help you stayed to fight. He stayed to protect and you know as much as is. It pains me that my brother wasn't more selfish that night. It wouldn't have been him to run so so we're going to go over some of the broad strokes that explain the variables that lead to convergence of these three people these three significant people in this case on that night so o._j. And nicole met nineteen seventy nine after he divorced his first wife marguerite and this is interesting. I didn't know this. I think jack did when i brought it up but they had a young child that drowned pool accidentally the same it year that they actually got divorced so that was a crazy year because he had already he'd been dating nicole for two years when this happened yeah so imagine the chaos of all of that so nicole and o._j. Actually got married in one thousand nine hundred five. They had two children sydney and justin and there were years of domestic abuse and their relationship was super contentious rollercoaster up and down. They divorced officially nine hundred ninety two but through the entire duration o._j. Was physically abusive in there was ample ample proof of that and after through the divorce o._j.'s abuse towards nicole continued. He spied on her. He broke into her home. He stalked her. Which is what happened on the night of the murders. There were many calls where she's like. He's breaking down my door. It was reported that he watched her have sex with someone else. When she was dating someone knew he would just let himself into that condo into that little gated area whenever he wanted and on this particular night ron doing a good deed was in the wrong place at the wrong time. We took you through the crime up till when the bodies were discovered here's what happened and what the evidence suggests happened after o._g. Flees without his hat or gloves he goes back the way he came in around the side of the house down a pathway in between the house and the flowerbed he exits through gate in the back which leads to a driveway and an alleyway with no street lights while leaving the gate he leaves three drops of his own blood from his wound on his hand on the inside of the back gate the way. I see you know as an investigator. Ron is a hero for defending nicole but he was also a hero for fighting back because if he doesn't fight back o._j. Doesn't lose the glove a fan and he doesn't cut himself and because he cuts himself the blood the blood comes out and all that there and what he's doing there is he's giving in any other case in a case that if it happened right now is a slam dunk but it was just so screwed up because ron fought back o._j. Lost his glove and o._j. Cut himself and he left his blood at the scene. Karan's heroics resulted in physical evidence of o._j. Being at the scene o._j. Walks across the driveway which leads to the garages for both nicole's condo and the next door neighbors and he walks up to his ford bronco <music> which he parked in front of the neighbor's garage behind a hedge before he gets into the bronco he removes the dark colored track suit that he was wearing which was now all covered with blood while doing this he spills a bunch of change on the ground he shoves the tracksuit into a bag along with a knife and gets in the bronco and turns his mission inside the bronco. He smears the center console three times leaving three stains of blood all three containing a combination combination of ron nicole's and his own blood from his hand. Would there was also a fourth staying on the console that contained the blood of just rhonette o._j.'s and and again this is what ron was able to do. It was not only able to place o._j. At the scene but by fighting back and causing that wound he was was able to not only leave that o._j.'s blood was at the scene but o._j. Left a combination of ron cole and o._j. Himself leaving no doubt o._j.'s the killer and i go back and i think for so for me during criminal case the d._n._a. Was really like the moment for me. I mean i i didn't have have any strong opinion of guilt or innocence. You know walking into that trial. I don't remember feeling that i remember that the the the science was like oh. You can't argue with science on the science girl so i just i i've joked about it the poor robin cotton you know she was the the dna expert she just was so yes i like her like and so now you find you get someone more animated you get someone that has a little bit more critical when they're explaining liles and you know all the specifics that just kind of go over most of our heads. The dreary didn't get it. They just an even when you looked at the board that marcia put up that said you know one in seven hundred billion whatever the you probably have that more than me but like the statistics were so overwhelming that it couldn't be anybody but him they just didn't they didn't get it. Yeah you know and so i said how can you. How could you not doc it. I mean again you know it makes perfect sense to me but there are people that just wants all planted many many people when you hear o. J. simpson what they <hes> <hes> get taken back to is the moments they were watching the slow speed chase with this bronco so this bronco it plays a key role but not everything having to do with this bronco uncle made it into the trial in fact a lot of the evidence having to do with said bronco was held back by the prosecution so in this bronco that o._j.'s escaping and he transfers i drop nicole's blood onto the carpet under the steering wheel he backs out of the driveway into the alley and starts heading towards his house on rockingham he drives semi carefully down the alley at first but then he starts to gun it once he gets back onto bundy which is kind of a busy street. He's headed to his home which is about two miles away and on on this route boulevard and there's a big center island on this particular street he blows through a red light causing him to almost hit volkswagen beetle being driven by a woman named. Jill shively joe slams on the brakes. No j. swerves and ends up on the median. She said i. I felt fear that anger anger. I mean the self entitlement. Why was this person driving like this. They had to be drunk. She looked at the man in the bronco. I knew it was a football player right away. The guy began yelling at the car in the westbound lane. That's when i realized it was o._j. Simpson i just seen him in a movie naked gun thirty be three and a third now even if you consider yourself very verse in the o._j. Case you don't know who jill shively is now. Jill comes up a lot in in kim's podcast so essentially she witnessed o._j. Speeding away from the crime scene on the ninth in the timeframe that the crime occurred and she was going going to be a witness for the prosecution and marsha urged her not do any media interviews anything that could undermine her testimony because it was so valuable so jill ended up doing interview and getting paid five thousand dollars to do it completely discrediting. Her and marsha also hurt some other information that she was calm and who's not reliable the ball. She's a woman who interviewed on our podcast and you know jill told kim in his interview you know marsha. Marsha told me i'm the reason that o._j.'s free. I'm the reason that the case was blown so this is significant. You're very clear in that. There's a there's a lot of people that you can pin blame onto but ultimately there's the blame for one person and it's the killer and and that's that's it and then you have the smokescreen of the trial and and and there's a lot of other people that you can kind of pin pin little bits of blame to but you don't do that which is kind of amazing because you know it's not cowardice though because i mean after twenty five years ears you can't have that not you so you're talking to people like when you were when you were talking to marcia clark and marsha did not allow allow the testimony of shy vely and charlie is the woman that apparently said she had almost run into ajay because o._j. Was driving without lights ran a red light on saturday and bundy to not allow that when when there's so many other people that are saying she should have allowed that because that places him at least near the crime scene how you you were very gracious in that i think i i've said this for for twenty plus years that you know marshawn chris and and the prosecutorial team sacrificed so much to put this case on and what they endured professionally personally the only people that are advocating for my brother so it's really hard for me to find fault in their decisions because a prosecutor persecutor be. I don't understand all the evidence <hes> see. I wasn't in the room at the time. I don't know all the information. I'm sure there's things that marcia is still not going to reveal <hes>. I'm sure there's things using jewison example that we still might not know so somewhere in the middle again. There's probably more of the truth and as you go through it and then you get to the jury and they're telling you really made a difference. It's not worth so worth me getting angry. That wouldn't mattered so. Let's give back to the events unfolding what happened after jill shively encountered o._j. And has bronco o._j. Ends up at rockingham. He it goes into the house sees leading blood everywhere gets into the shower leaves. Bloody socks gets into a limo and then they drive to l._a._x. At l._a._x. He is seen by a witness throwing away something out of a black bag. It was a little zipper bag he said and he just zipped it a little bit from the bottom just in the first hand to given the bag and he was pulling items out of it and putting it into a trash can and for those of you who don't know rockingham is his mansion that was on a street called rockingham for so when we reference rockingham that's his estate in in that area and then he takes off on his eleven forty five american airlines flight to chicago to go to the golf outing and o._j. At this point is is presumably setting up an alibi. He was not wasting any time getting on a flight to chicago. You know you're you're the one victim them family member. That has been through everything. You've you've heard it. You sat through nine months of a trial more than anybody else really. You've you have the stomach for it but does it get. It doesn't get easier but what is it. What is when you're dealing with the minutia a new show of the evidence do you how does that are you able to separated at all fan rochelle from the emotion now and uh-huh yes or no. I think that as i as i've matured in this process i i've always been really able to recognize it. My heart mind don't always coincide <hes> i think now i'm frustrated with people that that only choose to see bits and pieces of the evidence the answer don't understand it or or read those stupid like dark web. Weird websites make no sense at all. I mean i get bombarded headed by emails from people that should see the crazy stuff that i mean so all the conspiracy theory thing yeah but they just find things. I'm like that doesn't even want even talked talked about coming up with this stuff but so. I think that that part of me is frustrated because i don't wanna debate the case with all these years later. I don't have conversations about out every single piece of evidence because you either believe or you don't at this point. I don't need to try to convince you of a time line and convince you of all of the d._n._a. Convince you of why brothers hair and fiber were places it. It shouldn't be if the killer wasn't the killer like there's certain things that i i don't. I'm tired of some of that. <hes> you know my brother was air. Quoting my brother was drug addict news sleeping with a married woman and he got what's coming to him like that's steph. I'm dealing now more than on people arguing over the merits of the actual evidence because i don't think people care about that anymore as weird as that is <hes> because it's gone it's gone from <hes> and even almost from the very beginning it went from science to emotion right if you're like me and you cannot get enough off of true crime podcast. 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You'll never run out of true crime content again so follow today and true crime for free on spotify or anywhere that you listen to podcasts so we know that the trial of o. j. simpson was the trial of the century in the mass media coverage it received but just these these homicides themselves i mean the shock of families the vast coverage it was receiving. It was like nothing else truly the there. I mean the fact that everybody in our country was getting such. An intimate view of what was happening has never really happened before. It's never happened before before this and he's never really happened before this. It was the they would call the trial of the century the lindbergh baby trial that was at lynn baby trial then it was this limited baby trial l. was happening before before cable television for television before anything this was seen by more people than probably will ever be seen ever and not only that so so we were not the trial at this phase. I mean we all know what happens in the trial so we're not trying to set up any sort of twist at the end but the the the slow speed bronco chase really set sets a tone and it was ninety million people. I think watch that from their homes. We all in this is kind of a big theme in our podcast. We watch these things in horror on our t._v.'s. He's and then we turn it off and we go to bed in our life kind of goes back to normal but in this particular instance this media coverage that was has mis characterizing ron and sort of kind of commanding america at this time like this isn't something the goldmans could turn off and it's so in a jewish tradition you bury somebody but you don't unveil a headstone until a year later in that is supposed to mark the end end of the grief. This grief has never ended for the goldmans <hes> but in this ceremony which was is hugely important in the jewish faith breath it was it took place on like a sloping beautiful hill at the foot of a pine tree in beth olam cemetery which is jewish section of valley oaks memorial park in all of ron's friends and family in all these guests attended this unveiling in it was a granite headstone and avail was lifted from the small grey cemetery marker and it was inscribed with the words loving son brother and friend ronald lyle goldman july second nineteen sixty sixty eight june twelfth nineteen ninety-four fed goldman broke down in tears will speaking about his son his wife patti goldman stepped up and put her arm around him near the grave stood a large arrangement of yellow and blue flowers. A miniature american flag was placed near the marker so although ron was officially laid to rest his headstone unveiled tribute paid at a burial ceremony. This is not where his story or the goldman story ends not even close and i say that in the proof is in the fact that we're talking about it here today. In that ron goldman and nicole brown's murders reverberate you know the lack of justice in oggi's he's acquittal reverberates it upsets people it gets people so impassioned angered to this day and it's been twenty five years so so there are a lot of things we heard in this episode that really make us feel like shit but i found something that i think is a nice way to end the discussion about ron goldman so we were all trying to get to know ron through this episode and i found out what ron did two nights before he died which sort of comforted me and it was the last friday of his life to ron date with a model he has been seeing in her name was tiffany star star according to her he was brimming with energy that night they went to dinner. It took a stroll through venice each and they looked at the ocean. They walked by boutiques on main street in venice and they were just having an amazing time in los angeles police that he really really loved in one boutique window. Ron noticed a metal. Which is the symbol that was so important to him. He was going to have the restaurant he was going to open in this layout. He had a tattoo of one of these on his shoulder. It it just really embodied who he was. It is an ancient egyptian symbol for eternal. Life and addictions believed that one's earthly journey was only part sort of an additional life. The onc symbolizes both mortal existence in the afterlife and the goldmans also had the symbol etched into his gravestone on in this symbol isn't appropriate metaphor four ron because although his life was stolen and cut short he lives on through kim's very obvious v._s. Passion that she has forget attaining justice for her brother and for confronting his killer you know what's interesting just about in this conversation and it's not anything negative towards the two of you alexis injected because the different generation and so i think what was important for me about doing the podcast was to level the playing field because would you may have been able to witness from in terms of how the case has been perceived what evidence you know you. You've been watching the fictional b._s. <hes> it was important for me to to make sure that i added some facts to the story to make sure that that i was in control of something that's been out of control for me to be able to turn turned the corner a little bit on something that i think has gotten so far away from what the case was originally about <hes> and so it's been interesting that i've there's a whole new generation of people that are interested in this <hes> and for people that keep telling me to get over it you know i i struggle struggle with that because it's out of i don't get to <hes> and as long as he's alive and as long as people still have strong feelings about our justice system and about him in this case i got to figure out a way to work my way through it on this is a huge part of my life and i didn't ask for it in even if i'm minding my own business one day because i'm sitting at a basketball game with my son or something my phone blows up because of some stupid crap on the internet like i don't get to just completely escape from it <hes> this whole concept of moving on and getting over it and closure it just doesn't exist when you're someone who has suffered loss whether it's high profile or on a traumatic way lost seats with you and you figure out a way and some days you're better at it than others and i think it's discussing people are saying you to get over it or probably still the people better like inundating you one hundred percent a hundred percent. That's saying and i think that you know it you know i i won't we did oprah a handful of years ago in the if i did a book came out and an oprah told me to find closure and i just need to move past or whatever and then you know within weeks. She said that that would be her biggest. Get to get him as an interview and i'm like kate. You just told me to get over it. You just told me to move on and you're you're pursuing an interview with him. Like how do those two things reconcile with each other and i am. I don't cite the process. As much as i try i to figure out a way to stay above the fray and i try to find balance and i had someone some lady. She's a big tiller lover. She sent me the other day that you know she's a mother. She should be at home mothering like what so. I can't be an advocate. I can't even the passionate about things. I can't believe in victim's rights. I can't fight eight for what i believe in because i'm a mom like what better legacy from two to teach my kid be a role model to teach my kid like and since when people do both in a double murder on its own is horrific is terrifying beyond words in the implications at these murders in the residual effects were immeasurable. Possibly the only thing that rivaled the impact of the murders themselves was the trial the verdict and what came after in that is what we intend to cover in part two so this is the most analyzed crime in american history other than maybe the j._f._k. Assassination so what did we learn today. Well i think a good question would be what did we learn today. Yeah and i think for me. I can't even talk about the case anymore but seem kim in person. <hes> resilience is possible and i think i mean imagine carrying this burden for twenty five years like trying to get your your brother justice. After you saw his killer walk free i mean she's the picture of strength so i think what i learned not giving attention into the case that has been gone over a million times but to kim and her podcast and what she's doing. She's healing through this passion. She's she's keeping your brother's memory alive through this passion and you know what she's condemning o._j. Rightfully through this passion and i think it's so amazing yeah and she's tried to do television shows and she gets cut down at every turn and then she turned to podcasting and that's why i love podcasting because it's striking out everything and it's the saying you you know what it's just a person and their voice and the listener and the truth and that's while and she can say probably for the first time time ever exactly whatever the fuck she wants to say especially to him directly and if he listens to it or not it's getting it's getting sad. It's getting put out there publicly the lesson oh he'll listen to him. He's too obsessed with themselves too much fucking narcissist so i mentioned this briefly before this was our tribute to ron and ron story ron went through ron's heroism kind of the untold unknown facets of ron and it is really important for us to do apart one standalone episode for ron but there are a million things that we learned as far as what happened in the aftermath of these murders that will blow your mind even if you think you know everything about the o._j. Case so that is all coming up in cart to so until next week. If you guys have a first degree connection please email us at hello the first degree podcast dot com. Please don't damn alexis anymore because because she's getting overwhelmed with the flood of d._m.'s. How does it feel to be famous lexus <laughter>. It feels really bad to be famous mostly because i'm not ought to be it's mostly that instagram overwhelms me. 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Ava DuVernay Will See You Now

"K._p._c._c. podcasts are supported by the netflix series mind hunter this season the unit interviews more notorious serial killers and starts to investigate high highprofile cases such as wichitas b._t. K. mind hunter season two now streaming only on netflix and h._b._o. Presenting game of thrones critics have hailed the final season as t._v.'s greatest show of all time an era defining nominated for thirty two emmys including outstanding ending drama series the most emmy nominations of any drama ever broadcasts that are at k._p._c._c. This is the frame i'm john horn and happy friday. Everybody on today's show sony won't make any more spiderman movies along with disney which owns marvel studios can sony keep its spidey sense tingling all on its own then abe vernay on what drove her to make when they see us the netflix series about the central park five. If that's up sixteen emmys everything i did was for the man i mean if only five people watch the movie and loved it and it was almost five and they hey phil transformed by it that was truly and honestly my goal every day and wasn't all that coming up on the frame k._a._b._c. a._b._c. Podcasts are supported by the netflix series mind hunter inspired by events recounted and former f._b._i. Agent john douglas book mind hunter inside inside the f. b. I.'s elite serious crime unit this season. The unit interviews more notorious serial killers and starts to investigate high profile cases such as wichita. It's all kansas p t k and emerging serial killer in atlanta. Directive is david fincher andrew dominik and carl franklin mind hunter season two now streaming only on netflix ex. It's friday and that's when we check in with our friends at variety to see what's happening in hollywood matt. Donnelly donald is a senior film writer at friday. Hey matt hi john. How are you. I'm good so i wanna talk about a really big show business divorce. We've got two very powerful powerful people tom in kevin calling it. Quits hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake. There's been a lot of blaming and failed talks and there's even a custody battle battle at the center of it and that kid is spiderman. I'm talking about the break-up between sony and disney's marvel studios so what what is going on so sony pictures has enjoyed the licensing spiderman for years and in the events leading up to the final two vendors films disney sort of walked across the aisle will and did a licensing package that would give them access to the character for these massive superhero collaborative movies but moving forward. I think everyone has different agendas. The marvel cinematic attic universe is changing dramatically over the next couple of phases and sony. I think feels in a position where they don't want to share any of the glory and especially the revenue but the company is powerful. Awful disney is so effectively kevin fight. He will no longer be a supervising producer on any in spider man film and likewise spiderman will not appear in any marvel film yeah the tom. I'm referring referring to his tom. Rothman who's the head of sony pictures. I'm going to play a clip from two thousand into this is the original spiderman movie with tobey maguire. Whatever life folds in store for me. I will never forget these words with great. Power comes great responsibility. This is is a movie that was really important. I think in the development of superheroes in hollywood it was a huge hit. It grows eight hundred and twenty million dollars worldwide and i think it really we set the stage for a lot of what followed but what happened more recently is i think it's fair to say sony kind of lost their way with this franchise there was interrelation with andrew garfield that was not very successful up coughing a skintight red and blue suit and you know you're you're. You're learning spiderman. Two in two thousand fourteen was not well reviewed so sony reaches out to marvel marvel comes is in and works with sony on a couple of movies spiderman homecoming with tom holland in two thousand seventeen and spiderman far from home which comes out this year it really pretty and therefore i have value no no. That's not what i meant at all. I was just i'm messing with you. You're welcome to which is the highest grossing sony movie ever and the question is how much does marvel's involvement have to do with that film's success. What do you think i think it's a. It's a pretty good point. Kevi who runs marvel studios has always been really open about his admiration for the character sweating. There's a lot aww t._l._c. here with holland in these two films <hes> when you look at the box office numbers aren't actually that different but when you go to critical reception i would argue that homecoming and far from homer by by far the best received films but yeah. I definitely think that what you know marvel isn't as the machine that's firing on all cylinders in terms of the process or development production and post production so i think just sort of folding spiderman into that entire sort of universe. He's been given us sort of quality control over spiderman now apparently they will not continue what's fascinating about sony's history with marvel and this was in ben fritz's book the big picture back in nineteen ninety eight when when sony was looking for spiderman rights they approached marvel about getting spider man and marvel said well what about every character we have like thor the iron man everybody. They said you can have it all for twenty five million dollars and sony said nobody cares about those other characters we don't want to do that and then eleven years later disney buys marvel for four billion dollars one of the best bad deals ever i think but but sony i think really has its work. Cut out for it. If it's going to try to make a spiderman movie without marvel the history is not really on sony side. Is it no it's not and if you look what they've done they own some other nine hundred characters that are ten generally related to spider man. It's part of their licensing deal. Look at something like venom. Which is tom hardy fell while while it grows quite a lot of money i i don't think a lot of people felt was up to the quality of other marvel films so yeah. There's there's a lot of pressure to keep the ethos of spiderman and as we know him without any guidance kevin feige yours team. What is the fan reaction because i saw that there was a trending topic on twitter called hashtag save spiderman peterman from sony what other people saying about this dispute i mean they're devastated but yeah there was a petition to storm. The studio lot dressed as spider amend and this provoked really strong reaction from everybody. You know even jason lee who is the daughter of the late tomorrow. Founder stanley came out in support of the studio of sony saying that <hes> she believes her father's creations deserve multiple points of view from different filmmakers and went as far as to say that no one had treated her father worth and disney executives marvel executives during his life. We've talked about a lot of live action spiderman movies but a year ago spiderman into the spider verse animated film was not only a critical hip also did pretty well commercially really. Could there be to communicate to spiderman. I suspect sony will be doing another spider verse movie and i'm sure they'll be doing at least one or two more spider-man films right tom holland and and the director of those previous films of both in the hook for a two more and i think the idea was always to have holland and tom hardy as venom meet up in the same film sort of somebody's attempt at their own vendors style sort of films homes and then yes i mean spider verse was a massive success won an oscar which is rare for a non disney studio in the animated space and i think especially in terms of representation tation in that film you know you spiderman cast is everything from you know young men of color a woman even animated pig got to play spider man so i think that there's you sort of see how far that i._p. Can stretch. They'll do everything they can to exploit spiderman and his fans around the world. Matt donnelly is a senior film writer at variety matt have a great eight weekend and remember with great power comes great responsibility. Thank you john coming up on the frame. A visit to the creative compound where evita rene is building her own hollywood empire k._a._b._c. podcasts are supported by h._b._o. Presenting sharp objects based on the bestselling novel by gillian flynn. The story focuses on on camille precursor a journalist with a history of psychiatric issues who returns to her rural hometown to cover the apparent murders to preteen girls. The limited series was was hailed by critics as exquisite hauntingly compelling and a true masterpiece nominated for eight emmys including outstanding limited series visit h._b._o. Dot com com slash f. y. C. for more on sharp objects earlier this week some of the frame crew and i- piled into my car to visit a new production production complex near downtown l._a. Hi we're here to see john horn okay. We're all here from a._b._c. Got good yeah thank you. The place is home base for filmmaker eva vernay. She directed and co wrote when they see us. The netflix series is based on the false convictions of the so called central park five. It's currently up for sixteen. Emmys different a has created a multipurpose organization recalled array. It's compound includes writers rooms editing suites events bases in a brand new fifty seat theater. Which is where we had our chat well. It's my favorite place in the world. It's it's a built the place that i couldn't find a place here in l._a. That's really has people of color and women in its d._n._a. As part of its building not as an inclusion program that as a diversity initiative but in everything that we we do here every project people who usually uncensored are the epicenter of our work here and so to have the space which we just this actual theater space within the campus campus is a chimerical for you know that girl from compton who loves movies to now on her own fifty seat stadium style theater this ep compliant toby. I mean come on it sends out when i was driving down here. I had a flashback because i used to work right down the street at the associated press and you and i were working in journalism at the same time something happened and it was very dispiriting for me to witness and i think it was for you and that was the o._j. Simpson trial goodness and what i saw aw was a newsroom that stopped covering everything else to the exclusion of education politics healthcare you name it the l._a. Bureau of the a._p. Only covered the o. j. simpson trial and some of the things we did. Were not that impressive. Some of them are a little audrey. Audrey and i think that was a moment in your professional career where you thought you might be doing one thing and change your mind into another. So what did you see in it how to rake the <unk> today. It was a turning point personally but i think it was a real turning point for journalism in general <hes> you know the resources that are allocated to certain kinds kinds of stories <hes> an imbalance and what was prioritized and it really triggered this era of sensationalism and kind of you know paparazzi not driven. You know get the story at the headline you know pre social media. <hes> where the prioritization is the self <hes> right before four that it was the prioritization exotic vacation of the other and the famous person v._i._p. And that kind of roche's <hes> appetite that i think the media at the time all coming from that case really lead into a way that was dispiriting for me as a young journalist and i'm glad that hit me so hard as what i did not want to do that i immediately left and started to try to find other ways to to support the kinds of stories i was interested in and yeah but that was crazy crazy time and it was also time and i think about this when i think about when they see us about how the media shapes and narrative and how that narrative defines the story i suppose to the fax to find in this story and i wonder if you've stepped back and thought about what happened back during the o._j. Simpson trial and how the media kind of assumes a common narrative and how that might have played out in the central park ace. Oh yeah i mean the the reason those boys went to jail was to prison and jail was because of a story that was really contrived. Contrived is the right word because if there was actual investigation if there was actual rigorous news work being done <hes> if you know the talking points of the new york p._d. Did not just appear in the new york doc times and in the new york papers at the time <hes> if anyone in the realm of journalism i feel should have been much more responsible but they were or relating anyone that stood up and said wait. Let me take a second look. <hes> the boys i think it would about a much different outcome <hes> but it was a kind of a deadly stew of law enforcement and people not standing up political entities not standing up and and these boys and their families kind of went down for when you think about what this series was in service too or whom it was in service to how would you define it. What was the ultimate responsibility you felt as filmmaker and who was it to to the to the man everything i did was for the man i mean if only five people watch the movie in loved it and it was those five <hes> and they felt transformed by that was truly honestly my goal every day and was enough the day that they told me that i did more and better work than they expected. <hes> was really the day that the whole thing succeeded for me and it hadn't and even come out and to know that in telling the story i could change their lives. You know what i mean. I knew that i could change the a story around them. I know that i could amplify what really happened and to actually see it has talked to anton yesterday and he said this. I did one of the things you told me to do. Were what you tell me. I should get out more. You know told me a couple of what's going to get a life so i'm trying and what did you do got those season tickets to <hes> the local sports team mm-hmm where he lives ed because he did nothing but stay in the house. Go workout and come back. He was still in prison and he's still very resenting his father. It's all across the board with all of them. Two of them have agents now and on speaking tours i mean cory wise is little celebrity on the streets of new york with with with two people not just praising him but wanting to share their story with him being healed by it. I mean they're all doing incredible things that they were not doing before. The story was a story was obscured this kind of hayes of ambiguity. There are a lot of people who did not realize that they were ever exonerated they. I just thought they got out. We're talking with david vernay at her offices near downtown l._a. I was watching this series. It was after the first episode and i said to my wife this this is almost unwatchable and she said if you don't like it stop and i said that's not what i mean. It's so difficult to watch something that is true that happened in our lifetimes times. That is such a travesty. It's terrifying. I mean it's more scary. I think most horror films. I wonder if you have other people react with that way to see. This happen is so upsetting. It's almost unwatchable. Other people say that to me. I don't understand ended <hes>. I can't say i don't agree with it because people should do what they're comfortable with. I think it's a little i don't know it's a little dramatic to me. Oh oh you know what i mean. I look at the drama. I look at the pain they endured. I look at us sitting on our couches in an are comfortable spaces uses and bearing witness to the trauma of another human being and to be able to say i see that and i will allow myself to experience this so that i can grow an empathy and appreciation not only for what i have <hes> <hes> but to take stock of my own privilege in my own freedom <hes> <hes> i think there are some positive benefits to watching things that make us uncomfortable and <hes> but i have people that haven't pushed through like you did that have said to painful can't do it. That's what i don't understand. I think drum. I think that's dramatic. I think that's top watch. That's what i'm saying like. People who don't push through i appreciate folks saying this is rough <hes> but you know i value folks who really have continued to watch and get to the end and really understand the gains by sitting in an uncomfortable space by interrogating your own freedoms your own opinions about boys of color your own thoughts about the case about the criminal justice system <hes> those conversations. I love to have people but i all i liken it to this film. Turn horse. It's very long and for the first like our it's man in like i don't know eastern european hillside trying to hitch his horse and go home and he finally gets home and then he see mak- fire and then he's input on his clothes and eat soup and he goes to bed and he gets up and does it over again. Yeah like ninety times like what am i watching. This is uncomfortable. I don't like this but then you get to the end and if you trust the filmmaker <hes> which i hope people will watch when they see and trust me when you get to the end something that might be uncomfortable or even monotonous. <hes> has has has all kinds of jewels and diamonds in there so i ask people to stick with it like john. Did he stuck with it. How did you feel at the end. I mean no. I mean it's it is such a horrific miscarriage of justice that i was furious <hes> good and angry at the outcome and that these boys lives were i mean i don't know what the right word is because they're survivors victims but they're survivors but they were their lives were irreparably changed and hurt and that there were people who took advantage manage that and certainly in the second episode of the series you have dialogue from a certain real estate developer new york who essentially called for the death penalty in full page newspaper ads and all the new york city papers for these boys and of course donald trump when when you were looking into the story. Did you knew the story and what surprised you about what you didn't know. It was the families you know it was a family stories all everything in there having to do with the family's real <hes> as you know i mean the whole thing is just very true based on what they told me but gosh you know you think about a boy like andrew mccrae going to jail juvenile detention prison eventually and he his father telling him just do what they say and sign the paper. You have no idea what the impact of that is on the family that it broke apart. This family fractured this family. They were never the same it was those moments of serang salaam not even be able to call her son because she couldn't afford the prison phone rates that are exorbitant so you have fractured extra families there. These are things that i didn't think of as i'm looking at statistics i make thirteenth. It's full statistics but it doesn't have the human story so that's so i feel like this film was a continuation of some of the work in someone thirteenth. I wanna give people the shape of the criminal justice system and thirteenth but this is really the beating heart of what happens to all those numbers of people those millions of people behind bars and their families coming up on the frame more my conversation with writer director and producer eva devante. She tells me how she's working to make the independent film community look more like the rest of the world <music> now more vi- conversation with filmmaker eva vernay we met at the headquarters of her film collective called array. It's near downtown l._a. In the historic filipino town neighborhood her four-part netflix series on new york's central park five ks called when they they see us is up for sixteen emmys. She told me what's behind the title for me. It was really about a title that had had some meat on the bone was about more than just central park five. That was the working title for a long time. I felt that it was you know became allergic to it. It had no meaning and had had no emotion to it felt <hes> really dislike a moniker that had been given to these men <hes> by lazy press corps at the time <hes> by we'll political entities and the police they were grouped together to humanize them so i knew that wasn't the title and i was looking for something that really we spoke to what i'm trying to do. Which is <hes> talk about. An inherent in title is them and an us. I and who is the day who is us and that's really the way that so many people of color feel particularly black. People particularly black men that no one is walking in their shoes in this country. No one quite understands. <hes> you know the scored being a black man in any space in this country a black woman in these spaces so it's really kind of calling attention to the divide <hes> and then you know the behavior that's put on god you know a a a <hes> ah shaping that's always done a review an analysis of us based john how we look and not on who we are and so all of that a lot of what i studied about dr king's also embedded in that title that you know when i look at you you walking down the street. John horn is very attractive man. He's the owner kinda guy <hes> but you i i would look at a senior and assume oh upstanding gentlemen and law-abiding citizen. You look like that type. You could be anything but you the way you look has come to mean safe and okay right <hes> and the way that i look and my friends <hes> some of my friends that i was with last night would mean just the opposite for someone. If you're looking up in the dictionary. What do you say to artists who keep hitting doors that are closed in ways that you and your company company are supporting emerging artists. What are the initiatives that you're most excited about that can help those people get a chance to share their stories. You know i appreciate a lot of the film organizations around the country that have done really great work and supporting artists like sundance and tribeca and and film independent you know for me. I'm i'm thinking more systemically. <hes> you know as opposed to artists labs and helping the young screenwriter with the with the writing and directors labs and teaching folks how to write a camera what we do here to ray is we attack and disrupt systems exhibit own work. We book with alternative in rogue doug distributors around the country. We <hes> so distribution exhibition. We also created our own space for production. We don't have to go to any studio lot. We don't have to ask ask permission for anyone to edit to a writer's room to prep to shoot <hes> and so it's kind of taking back all of these pieces of the puzzle that are doled without permission and really undermined the whole idea of independent filmmaking because you're not really independent because you can't do any of unless someone said it was okay and so we are are trying to be a little bit more radical and are thinking about independence last question. What gets you fired up. What would you look forward to every morning. Hiring <hes> every day i have is different and it's all filled with things that i love to do. <hes> and that's the way that i wanted to be when i grew up and now i'm going up and that's the way it is and <hes>. I think that that's pretty remarkable. If i wanna right i can right if i'm directing that i'm doing what that means if it's if i'm producing <hes> working on a whole bunch of different projects moving from film to t._v. I'm surrounded by people people who i like and want to work with. I get to choose who i work with. I get to choose where i work. <hes> it's a great time so great that i get kinda scared that god can it last but asked oprah this. I said you know you've been living a great life for a long time. You make me less scared that it's possible to live like do your work and be happy in your work and your life for long periods of time and she said you have to trust. That's for it. What what is for you. We'll be for you and right now. In this time this is for you. If it's meant for it to last it will own. It's not well can't change it surmise. We'll just enjoy the day and that's what i'm doing. This is a good day. Thanks so much for coming on the show me that was of course filmmaker eva d'hiver name and that's it for this week to frame is produced by oscar garza darby maloney jonathan chifflet flit julia peskine and robert grove our news clerk as andrea gutierrez in our intern is paul ratliff. Valentino rivera is the show's engineer and our opening. Theme music is by taylor mcferrin. I'm john horn. Make sure to tune in to the frame weekend which airs saturdays at two pm and like our daily show. It's part of our podcast feed. We're back here on monday at the mon. Broadcast center have a great weekend.

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5/11/20 UW Doctor challenges CDC guidelines.

"I think. while. There's going to be a couple of other stories that have a move into not particularly related. The COVID SEWRI on today's program. There are two kind of. Overarching themes. That I see underlying a lot of the segments. And the Kovic slash economic meltdown restriction of our rights, etc, story. And as you've noticed for better than a year, now I have been, but I put together the programs try to look and see if there is like a thread that links several of the topics together. There isn't always, but it's kind of candy. How often there is! and. The two themes are. How we have as a society, particularly from the media and the establishment, really as a society. How we have ben throughout this so. Unquestioning. Not only do as you're told. But whatever a theory was thrown out with regard to the virus. What's going to happen the automatic acceptance that they have to be right? Now. Were a few months into this. And we know that they the ones that they have to be right. In fact have been wrong. I've almost everything. Almost everything that has been done by the they. Has Been Mistake. And some people are now beginning to question this. Let's be honest. Hardly anybody question any of it at the beginning because the assumption is they. Know what they're doing. They must know. Why. Well. I think the reason that we give this kind of blind faith. Is that when you get into an area where? People don't feel they know much themselves. They are likelier to give tremendous reliance on the guidance of experts. At example of the contrary. where? People, don't pay much attention to all the guidance and the experts because we think we know just as much as them would be sports. Certain. Three football team runs the ball. They don't get the first time all events. Dope it. and. Probably had an opinion before they called the play. Of Us. Feel! We're just as smart as couches, so we're willing to question. But when it comes still. Something like this. We feel as though we lack any knowledge. Base it all so therefore we have to listen to and not quest. The experts. The thing about experts. Not a single of misguide. And many of them. Are really the experts that cracked up to be. Let me give you an example. I like to use examples to illustrate by points. I learned this. You know who I learned this from. No. When not yeah you know and then he immediately that comes up with an answer. So. For what I actually I learned some things him, but not this. Using examples to make a point with sixteen levels above. Where of were jacks? Iq ever ever ever got to. He was much more at the. Wasn't a lot of subtlety in his Shiming for crying out loud. The guys miss at an nicely calls himself when I jack on a lot of. Deep Thinking on his program in there. Given that guy more attention to the last week. Now that he's gotten, he's dead. I think. I do that to everybody that. I haven't heard from twenty and twenty years I just assume they're dead. Every and you see an actor on TV's wow. He's not dead. No I. See him every now and then. No. Jerry steelers all on there all the time. He just POPs up forever. He's one of those every. Will you stop it? You elite load? Using examples to illustrate a point is effective way of communicating and I'm guessing the teachers who are good I mean the ones that are already gone. The teachers that are good use that in their approach. All the time I don't I was GONNA say buzzy admitted as a joke. If you read the Bible the stories of Jesus, he's always talking through it, allergies and parables. He never gets exactly to the point in terms of spelling out. You have to do this, and then you go to heaven I mean occasionally. It gets that blunt, but he'll occasionally used example to make you think through and I like to do that. Until you right out of todd. Back let me use it this way. When you think of a criminal trial in fact I've got a good one here. The first case. Against O. J. Simpson the one that he was acquitted. Not The second trial, the civil trial, and not the thing in Las Vegas with the break in, and they beat the guy up and all that, but no the first trial. The district attorney in Los Angeles County at the time. who was the father of the current mayor I think? I throw these things out there. I'm not a hundred percent sure so I i. think but I'm I'm pretty sure I write you. Could fact check out there? That bothered Paul with the answer Paul of Future. Give try to even tell me what the people say. Oh, smack in the face of their can't threatened physical violence against. You're never actually hit, you have. been so I've hit anybody. you know that the your those places where you can just go and punch the punching bag? That probably would be a fun thing to do right now. You know those gyms where they don't have boxers. Don't WanNa hit other people anymore because they're also whissy. We just go hit the heavy bag. I do that for three minutes and probably have either have another stroke. Get all tired out to say. This is boring. Catch you go back to like when you're a kid and you box. I bet the kids though not do that anymore, do they? Nothing I mean. I backed by brother. He's yeah, what what's gloves? Boxing gloves that's just the kids did. I stood half years older than he was a great deal for me. But OJ case. Yoga said he was. That is the attorney and obviously he knew that this is going to be the hot one of the highest profile cases his office ever seen. He pulled out. The best prosecutor thought he added his office in Marcia Clark. The original person who what are they? What do they call the assist than chair tour whatever or second share? He ended up having a heart attractive to trial and the ended up. Bringing in the guy who turned out to be at over his head, and pretty much screwed everything up. Nonetheless. Marcia Clark was chosen for that role because she essentially was the best prosecutor in Guild Garcetti's office. Who was the the guy who was installed as the second chair of the case? Name is coveted me. I could visualize yet. African American younger, thirty, five or so. You don't remember this. Christopher DART! But I've been Marcia Clark was re- regarded as one of the best prosecutors, if not the best prosecutor in the state of California, she was highly regarded and done a number trials number of major cases. That's like I said he gave the case. And what you're all thinking. What does this have to do with covered ninety? Illustrating. So I guess you could say. That when it comes to prosecute major cases in California, she was the real expert, right. Highest strict again. Except here's the thing. OJ And a lot of money. Who the F over at the other table! He had the train team. Robert Shapiro who is probably the best known defense attorney in La at the time. It up. Brings Johnny Cochran? Who might have been battling it out with Robert Shapiro for the best defense attorney of Los Angeles? Good enough, he brings her. She would suffer from Harvard. Guys on TV all the time. He's still on TV all the time. That's not good enough. DIG, up. Probably the most famous lawyer there was still enough. He brings it. What's his name? Shake the DNA expert. How the healthcare dash, it ever got involved of that. I don't know because had he had? OJ He was Kardashian results as Fred had he got hired. Acid think we would have had to put up with any of these other Kardashians at all. That's what put them on the map that you agree with that. Because, that's the put the wife at the back of the wife. Would you know what she got the instant fame? I figured out I know how I could make self famous. There's only so much I can do. I gotTA. I'll turn my daughter's into something and Lo, and behold she did. I mean face it when it comes to just embedding fame. What's the name ended up marrying Bruce Jenner and ruining his life and turning them into a woman, or whatever I'll happily of IBE, anyway. Let me get back to my point. Time is a wasting and the reason it's wasting is I wish they get? The dream himself around the other side. This is my point about expert. It's probably true that Marcia. Clark Bay a bed. What are the best prosecutors are maybe the prosecutor in the state of California, but who prosecutes cases, government civil servants. The really really really really really good lawyers. Don't work as prosecutors think out into the private sector, get hired, defend people like OJ and become multimillionaires extremely rich people. Robert Shapiro probably made in a given year. A multiple of Betty. Times more than Marcia Clark made. Do the for Johnny Cochran did it. Did it for F Lee Bailey? The point I make is often. We accord to the position of experts. People who have been sitting in government positions their entire lives, whereas there may be a lot of people, the fields that they are in that are way better, but don't have that high Falutin government title over their head. Do. You really think for example Andrea Palm. Who used to work for Hillary Clinton And is not an MD.. She has a masters and as a democratic political hack. Do you really think she knows more about public? Health? But some of the people in Corporate America. Who are involved in major drug research, medical research corporate planning strategizing and sell one. If Anthony, FAUCI was that great of a doctor. He wouldn't be Anthony FAUCI. Now it's true. That when you take over agencies that arms of the government, you can make a lot of money. Doing work on the side is Fao Chee has but still. The point that I make with regard to experts. When it is. Determined the you're an expert, only because you were given a certain jogging government. Dubious to say that that person must somehow no more then everybody else who works in that field? Of all. The terribly idiotic decisions that were made by experts. The biggest idiot of all was Neil Ferguson. Many people have been asking very good questions now, although still not many from Armenia. Why out of all the people who create models that what's going to happen? To be all listen to deal Fergus, the guy who did the imperial college model. Two point two million Americans died. So he said. He had a keeling over right and left Britain according to his model. And everybody reacted anybody who would like question like say a goof flake. Bay Auto Utah. You're a talk. Show hosted Milwaukee true. That's all they am. And, he's the L. Ferguson. Who the hell is the Ferguson? Why is his bottle? The only one we're supposed to look at? Everybody who dares raise that question is considered to be like the body equivalent of what the know nothings a flatter. Paula besides. Not Questioning not challenging. The thing that's made it worse. And I've been commenting on this incessantly I I'm a broken record added I admit, but since hardly anybody else's brig ended up I. Think it only is getting it out there to the proper about. It's one thing to automatically except in genuflected worship at the altar of the so-called scientific experts, even though Cherry picking out, and giving only a handful of them the ability to be these experts. In the beginning. I don't know anything. Neil Ferguson. He's an expert. He must be an expert because he's the expert. Anthony She's GONNA rely. And I'm not. Just a welder. Or just. About head like Tony vers. So we have to listen to these acts. Okay. I'll gray. But once it turned out that once the evidence started to get overwhelming that these experts were way way way. Way Way wrong. Why were we still set up? That's the point I keep asking. And that's the theme that I was mentioning for the program here the unwillingness to challenge. At really any level. And if you do, you are turned on. Now as you know, I've been writing. The Butts of Republican legislators in Wisconsin and I've really been the they. They just want a swat. Be Away with a flyswatter right now. I get that. Wondering why they themselves have been sold. WORC- and accepting of this practice. The government should be making these decisions about what we're supposed to do when there's a bug going around. But. While I'm writing good butts a little bit. The reality is is that what any of them publicly sticks their neck out there at all and challenges any of these edicts. They are annihilated in the media and by many others. I won't name a name here because. I. Don't want to encourage more people to do it to this particular person, but there's. Not Narrowing this down at all, there's quite a few. Republicans have right here in Wisconsin over the last several days ago. I could tell you that what of them? Head a bag of. I. Don't know what kind of crap, but it was edible crap. They Act. It might not add benefit humid for Orlando. Crap said to them to their whole. This is what happens. And there as I say, they're about a handful of Republican, said have challenged some of this. And this is one of them and I'm not going to narrow it down because I. don't want him with courage. More people do it. But, that's what's happened to anyone. WHO's dared challenge any of these things. Laura Ingram got a story in the new. York Times. For touting. Hydroxy, Clark, how terribly irresponsible! This is for her to wear dodd yet we now say. That thousands of doctors contained you to use it across. The United States believed that they're getting a positive response from it. But just for questioning it. Paul says that the person involved here. Actually posted on his social media was the speaker Robert Boss La Sharon if he outed himself. She's got me riding on the one hand for being way too WORC- this it on the other hand. He's getting, but this is as I. Say if you challenge Eddie of this at all, they will go after. Just for asking questions, raising point breaking from whatever this priests apparently ordained small group of experts that are the only people that could weigh in on this at all. I'll get frustrated occasionally with sports fads. Who say when they you know? The team hires coach of the say. We'll give them a chance. Give them a chance, so he does something I don't agree with. I'm to say I don't agree with it I'm not GonNa say we'll give a guy a chance at not criticize the first two years that he's in there. Presumably I've you know I've been hired to express my opinion things? If, I, have an opinion, I'm not gonNA. Keep. My mouth shut because I think some dopey coach. You know he's the coach. At who are you to say? Now! People get over that real quickly. If the coach has losing record, but I'll tell you if the coach is a long track record of success or general manager is a long track record of making good decisions, so we will say well. You gotta give them the benefit out. Okay, fair enough. I- perplexed as to why ballot check didn't draft a quarterback. I was convinced he was going to draft a quarterback. I can't figure out what the hell he's doing over there. But you can say you gotta get a benefit of Delta. Guy Seems to be something Jj okay. I see that point. What's the rationale forgiving Tony Iverson Andrea. The benefit of the doubt. For that matter foul Neil Ferguson. I heard some of these people couldn't get a coin. Flip right if he gave them to gases. This lack of challenging. There is a story that I'm going to get to shortly. That I think is quite fascinating. Some people have no choice but to ignore the experts. And that's offered where the best innovation really anywhere in life comes from. Many of the doctors that are on the front lines treating. Patients patients that come in with Cova. You've got a virus. That's brand new. And you've been given the call a guidance from the officials. That's the best way to go, but that's just a guess. It's just the guest. It's a brand new virus. It's not like a person presents with a blocked artery certain G, you choose among a number of options. This virus brand new head on what's GONNA work at it? You know you don't have a cure. You'RE GONNA try to treat it. You're going to try to do what you can deduct out. You try to build up the persons of union system, but all you have is a little bit of guidance, but you gotta figure it out because here. This guy is Ed within twelve hours. He seems to be dying. You don't have time to do. What of these namby-pamby is out? There will tell me what to do. All these millennials in the workforce. Will. You didn't tell me. How do you didn't tell me what to do? How about? Trying to figure it out. And make some decisions and be accountable for it. Sooner the ramifications of all this group learning that we've been doing in the schools for the last twenty years. We ought to power. Eddie wanted to actually start thinking and making decisions. And maybe that's why we've had this thing I cope. With one thousand nine hundred three experts say there's okay. Everybody's got to go along with the a log with gotta go along with it yet. The smartest people and I throw it yesterday. The smartest people are the ones who decided not to go along with something. You know what gamut there's a better way to do this. I'm going to move this story in terms of where I was going to do it because. It fits. I'm trying to explain this. Says I. Say you got all these people? That are coming in and while. As, I've been. Commenting now for two months the overall Cova. Numbers are not particularly high in terms of percentage of the population. They are particularly high in terms of the number of people that are going into emergency rooms, especially in certain areas of the United States a bunch more combat I mean. Nothing's overwhelmed ready. You got these people that are coming in with this thing and. Yet, these doctors you try to figure it out. There was a TV show that was I. don't know fifteen years ago, vitamin less. I think the name was house, but I might be bride. It's about a guy who. That was. Yeah I actually didn't hardly ever watch the show, but I know that his they. The shows go off and decide issues, but. The point of the show was he would figure out what a person had and how to treat some mysterious odd kind of big. Eddie would think outside the box into it. What. What do you have a question and try to get people to figure it out, and so he goes to the process. Figure this out. Figure this fitness. I figured this out figure. That's what with no time to spare. We've had going out and medicine. And what are the things that happens during this? And it helps now that there's an internet and you don't have to wait for a magazine to come out once every week. Is these doctors real time are publishing their findings and other doctors. Go to read it. See what's working see. What does it work? The old days they used to say. Read the literature other. Literally reading online reading with some guy just did a day earlier. I say guy obviously doctors. Edward Finding. That some of the biggest names that are out there doing this and this story. Just it's just not being covered. I do a pretty much. The opposite of what foul and all these other experts are telling him go. One of them. Is Madison. He's got. He's on the Faculty of the University of Wisconsin Medical School. And he's the critical care critical care director. In, one of the units at university hospitals of Madison. He even testified before the United States Senate last week. He and a handful of other doctors. Have put together their own protocol for treating patients who come in. With covid nineteen, His name is Pierre Corey. Corey has been arguing. That the guidance on how to deal with Calvin from the World Health, organization, and the Centers for Disease Control. Has Been Totally Rod. And he's basic this on. What he and other doctor said they're doing in real world tied. The first thing he says is. Don't innovate. Wow. We're told from the beginning. We gotTA. Start Bill O., where we're going to run out of Adelaide. Is He got to get? Battling gotta get better late. Is it gotta get ventilate? GotTa get ventilators? We've got an event as we need to build battle. That is where the ventilators. What are the reasons why we've run? Short ventilators anywhere is it started to dawn on a lot of these doctors? That ventilation is not the right way to go. Dr Corey Madison says. Innovation is not the preferred approach in fact. It should only be done as a last resort. His belief and he's. He testified to this and. I'll tell you how you can find this evidence. How could I get this idea this? Unless I forgot to do it, did I? Do they give you both of these? What. There's too though. I got to think that through. we have what up. That's right. Dr Corey. Says that when patients come in with call did? You gotTa Wop of right away from the get-go. Your best chance of getting a result is to be extremely aggressive at the beginning. The Guidance and the World Health Organization. was to assist their breeding breathing. And be patient and monitor and see how they develop. Of course, that's right. And he's come up with. A log with a handful of other physicians. A, treatment protocol that where the person is in their stage of the virus. And it's being used in a number of. Medical facilities around the United States. As, I said this approach didn't exist. Before covid Nike came up. Because covid nineteen didn't come up until now. And, it was based and the approach that he's coming up with is based on. Bucking up your immune system to fight it off. And according to his testimony that he presented in front of the United States Senate. which was scantly covered? scantly, a word barely covered. Hardly got covered at all highly dominate. Sad. Number of ways I joke about the last translation. But then I get, people battery, silent joke. He also says the problem with this virus. Is that it causes inflammation. He says the people that are getting really sick. are, getting really sick because of inflammation. which is caused by the virus? That! You shouldn't focus on. The virus should be focusing on. Don't let this inflammation. Inflammation is a problem in general in the human body. I made its. We have anti inflammatories for all sorts of things it it. Inflammation causes pain, inflammation inflammation just bad. Any number of. Is Inflamed. It's inflamed. It's inflamed. It's inflamed. It's inflamed. It's inflamed. It's inflamed. His belief is? The reason some people turn sour after getting company is. They, have inflammation in the body caused by the virus that it's the inflammation that spurs them up especially if they already had compromised lungs or other pre existing conditions in advance. So his approach according to his testimony, simplifying here but I read this. Is To attack the inflammation. Go after it really hard early odd. And even prescribes a medical regiment. I. Your this at. This speaks to the ingenuity. Of the American mind. It, also the willingness to think outside the box. Now, before I tell you what his veggies. A side story that I wanna get to here because it relates to my overall larger point here, we have to be willing. I'm not saying you ignore advice. Ignore experience. Don't listen to any experts. But what someone appears to be Ryan? You've got to be willing to challenge it. If something doesn't make any sense, you've got to be open to new ideas and we just haven't done this and the media doesn't do at all. They challenge trump on everything but. I'm still waiting. For somebody to start grilling voucher and say. Why did you fall for Ferguson? Steg? And by the way let's start talking about all those consultancies. You have big firemen pharmaceutical companies. The point. Dr Corey Aches. And it's reflected what the treatment regimen is. Many of these experts at the highest levels of a lot of the agencies like the World Health Organization. We'll talk at his ation centers for disease, control. They're funded. The CDC is funded by government, but they also get grads. We'll l.. Health Organization is funded by governments. They also get grants and people like pouch who go and work for these organizations. They have a government salary, and they also get grads well. Who Do you think give grants? Generally. Somebody that's got an agenda. Bill Gates Begged Brad Maker. And, so are some of the pharmaceutical companies then hire people like Pouch e consultants. So if that's where your bread is buttered. You'RE GONNA have a biased toward new medications that come for the big pharmaceuticals. I've been noticing in this whole debate here. Should be with her attracts, Clark, remnants different. Decipher whatever it is the driver's name, I can't pronounce the new from Jillian. In fact, there may be a place for both. Clark however is almost free. It's been around forever and it's really really cheap. Nobody gets any money off of using yet office Selah get. But some big New Miracle Cure some company that comes up with a vaccine. They're gonNA make a fortune, and some people have a bias, therefore toward looking for the new Miracle Drug, the new silver bullet the new backsied the whether it's GonNa make somebody rich well. Maybe that's the best way to go. Maybe that is the best treatment. Maybe have anything now that works. Maybe we do. But nobody's going to get rich off of some of those. So what do you think Dr Corey out there in Madison end? The others that are following his lead. What do you think? They're giving people at the first sight of the COVID. which would. Put that up on my thing, little weird word. He gives a vitamin C. He gives them vitamin C.. Say. Why that? Extremely exotic drug that's in deep development of the pharmacy vitamin C. It's been around forever. It's that only gives them. But it's a major part of the regimen. In addition to the vitamin C. he gives you prednisone code I swear. PREDNISONE has been around since Ben Franklin Prince around since I've been a kid who the hell has it better prejudice owed at one point or another? It's a corticosteroid or stare I. Don't know if it's a corticosteroid vegetarian. It's an anti inflammatory is one of the things that does. that he throws it a decent about a vitamin D. There is some evidence that in some of the nation's where. covid hit the hardest. Those nations that are vitamin D deficient. Vitamin D. This a couple of other things that are mentioned it is protocol. That's it. But hit him hard with a mega dose of it, and the specific amounts for any doctors that are interested is in the literature that he has it. Any references this in. The presentation. He gave to the United States Senate, Not What are the basic facilities? That's using this registered. Put together a protocol, five different stages of the virus had how you treated differently. Depending on how bad the person is that has it in other words want of harder again with more serious medication the worst the person actually appears to be in the worst that their symptoms actually are. And it mentions when you get. Till the level of doing integration, there's a medical facility in Virginia. That's using this math plus. That's the term using it using this approach the covid nineteen. It has all of these different patients prophylaxis, which is preventative. Symptomatic patients who are at home, not serious enough of the Nixon mildly symptomatic patients. They'd be on the floor of the hospital, but not yet in the ICU, and it gets a little bit stronger each time through. Yves Ems Eastern. Virginia, medical system their critical care, covid nineteen management plaid which I've read. SAYS THAT FOR PRIETA? Prophylaxis as a preventative and mitigation against cope in nineteen, the early stages, vitamin, C. Zinc, Melatonin and d three. By all that stuff at Walgreens. For patients who have symptoms, but not added still at home, vitamin C. Zank Melatonin d three. And that is an option had rocks Clark. And two other medications here that I'm not familiar with in either. Mexican and something called Asa. Then for mildly symptomatic patients at the hospital. They step it up. They still have the vitamin C.. The Dank sank mentor John Vitamin D an AXA Piran. Practice Own Feminine I. Don't what it is. Then Hydroxy Clark and a couple of others, and it goes on, and it gets difference differ depending on. How more advanced. Idiots now I've linked up this Senate. Testimony of the Madison Doctor. And put it up on belling dot com for those of you who want to have his layman's explanation as he explained to the United States where he's coming from. On all of this. Now is the approach that he's using all the doctors that are buying into this and there's a team that have of adapted this type. Of Response and they're all experts in the field of dealing with people critical care, and that's what they say. Is that people really sick all at once and something? That's critical care. They developed this and they're seeing positive responses to it and as you. If you've been listening to the drugs that they're talking about their, they're all stop. That's supposed to help. Beef up your immune system, so your body can fight this stuff off and the worst were sick. You are the harder they hit you with. Are they have year? They hit you with other things. The Madison doctor has been particularly critical doctor FAUCI saying we can't be using all these unproven treatments. In other words, they WANNA put everybody into clinical trials and monitor how they're doing. In the meantime you can get covid nineteen be dead five days later. Well, we've got prove that it's effective why. How `bout this guy's dying. Let's try to save him. See if we can learn from what we do. which is what's happening in the real world? One thing we don't know. It's about the death. Rate truly is in countries like India or coveted started to show up because I mean India. A country of massive population second largest that the world much of it is impoverished. Probably all sorts of people may be getting this thing that art at hospitals that never go to the doctor and so I don't know. But. One of the reasons why the death rate from covid nineteen in the United States is so low. Vast majority of people get it. Don't die. May well be because doctors and hospitals are treating this thing very aggressively at very quickly and not waiting for clinical trials, not listen to the media Oh. You can't give them this. This bike dot work hope. I'd have been saying Oh. Yeah, take a vitamin C. go to bed. That's good advice. Maybe it is. So, what's happened in the medical community is treatments like this have worked their way to the medical grapevine and doctors in these yards and icy us around the country have picked up on them, and they're learning from the experience of these. That's other. Iraq's chloroquine went into such wide use what they found that it was seeming to work for a number of patients. But try to get this thing into the mainstream media. Try to get any kind of discussion here. As to whether or not, the guidance of the CDC is a bunch of crap. It hasn't happened. By. The World Health Organization. Is Corrupt and bought and paid for by China. We now have information. The president of China. As the head of the WHO the World Health Organization mid-january. To delay the WHO's guidance uncovered nineteen. China was trying to internally gets ducks at a row here before they've got. Allow this thing to get out altogether. The WHO agreed to do it. Why would you trust anything that comes out of an organization that can be manipulated by the political goals of China as for the CDC? The CDC's people are in love with the whol. Foul CI and the CDC have worshiped the W.. These are institutional governmental controlled. Addy's that are very easily on of pharmaceutical companies and many of these people have their own agendas, and sometimes you know what people are just Rod. Now, this is just one part here. Of the whole Kovic story that has not but challenge patio the best way to treat this thing the best way to deal with it. If the CDC is right about how to treat this if the CDC has a bias toward pharmaceutical trials, if the CDC has a biased ward. Reward a Gilead, if the CDC has a bias tha that shutout America to somebody comes up with vaccine, so everybody buys the vaccine and we makes the vaccine. Company rich. That's an agenda that should be challenged and exposed, but nobody wants challenged, expose anything in the same way that nobody wants to stand up to Tony. If it's nobody wants to question whether or not the dumbest thing you could have done in the United States is keep the bus systems running. Nobody questions anything either, but there's all sorts of evidence that we now have a the factual world that indicates the approaches we were taking were Rodrigue. NOBODY EVEN JEALOUS WEATHER HELL! The schools are still closed. Up Three kids, the state of Wisconsin, we have covid right now. I'll tell you talk about trying to find the needle in the haystack. Schools closed. WHO ASPECT QUESTION NOBODY's asking adding thing nobody challenges anything despite the fact that these experts experts experts rod. Rod, Rog Rocket Rod, and why look to a certain group of experts at other experts. UW medical I usually left. He's falling all over themselves. Anything comes out of Madison. Oh, but I don't know. About you must know more, why does he bore? Why should one hundred and forty seven year old government hack? Who Started? It was who got his job under. Woodrow Wilson. Teddy Roosevelt why should he automatically add an worships at the altar of every pharmaceutical company? What Ed has been running from the beginning? So I mean there's a lot of things that are going on behind. I gotta get to a break. Watch for this stuff. I'm very observant I. Pick up on things. Sometimes they pick up things in Iraq, but I pick up days. A trump is spending this task force. He's trying to clip the wings of funky secondly. We're now entering the cover your butt stage of things. Nobody ever wants to take the blame for screw ups right. Watch for the growing rift. Between And Fau Cheat. BURKS does not. WanNa fall on a sword for FAU cheese bad judgments. Over the weekend in the Washington Post. Very interesting showed up. They late. Minutes out of the White House covid nineteen meetings. And who do you think railed on the CDC? burks! burks! And she manages to get. That leaked out, so she's an in that. She said I don't trust Eddie. Numbers coming out of the CDC and she said I think they're inflating the death numbers. A lot of conservatives have been questioning why the CDC is counting suspected deaths, and and count any anybody who dies with nineteen even if they were. Put it in the number suddenly burkes is now. She's got her own reputation. Do you think she wants to come out? She's you know if you're wondering who that that's. That's the scarf lady. I thought she was born wearing a scarf. So. Look and see and she is GonNa. Come right on and say I. Think Dr Apologies a crack. They'll leak and they'll do this and they'll distance, and you're gonNA see some. Cover your butt here as it turns out that eventually there's an accounting for some of the people who gave president trump terribly bad advice. Some of the people who have given governors very bad advice, somebody who, for example was dumb enough to fall for the Ferguson bottle in, and they're going to get some of these people eventually realized that it's going to all. Come back to FAUCI because this was. Was a FAO CI show, and he gave all this direction that all these public health officials across the United States like Pablo in Wisconsin relied garbage in garbage out at the point that I wanted to make, and I'm going conclude this segment here is, we have had no desire willingness, not even enough open mindedness to even question some of the stuff that was coming from so-called experts, despite the long-standing track record of these experts, both over over time, and especially precisely there and covid nineteen of being rod for the beginning Ron from the middle and Ryan at the and. Eleven thirty W S Edmark late afternoon. Show a little ESPN. Clocked our word and the help. Pay Your bills cash contest. Tony Hebrews up there. Now has modified his goofy order again. Like they keep doing these little tweaks and okay Al that a couple of you do this at a couple of you that. And as I say, it's another example of nobody questioning nobody challenging anything. For the average person. There's a lot of reasons for that. For the media, it has been eye opening. Average is now allowing some retail stores as long as they have their own outside entrance in other words, nothing where it's shared like a ball. To let people come in. With some modifications, no more than five people in the store at the same time stiffer depending on stores that it doesn't mean that the grocery stores have to go back down to five. It means that of those that are close, so he tweaks it a little bit to let some of them. Have this and some of them have added? In the meantime bars restaurants are being on lockdown other than carry out orders for the restaurants. Numerous other businesses are shut down. All sorts of offices are operating. And we're starting to reach the point where you excited to hear people talking about their businesses going under. There's a lot of different areas. We can pursue that topic from. Let me I cover the question of. Where's the? Supreme Court, which I'm getting from some people. The. Supreme Court was asked last week to overturn remember, there's two orders. The. Original Levers orders order that extended stay at home until May twenty fourth. His Emergency Authorization Authority ends on May twelfth is runs until May twenty fourth and the other one is the order from. Health, services. Secretary Andrea Palm under State Law. There is no time limit for her authority to issue a urgency orders. They questioned whether or not that order. Was Arbitrary and they questioned the constitutionality. Of, whether or not one official can have the authority to simply without challenge of anybody else at all issue, these edicts with no time restrictions on them whatsoever. The State Supreme Court has not yet ruled remembered out. While, there is currently at five to conservative majority until August when it becomes four three, when Justice Kelly leaves the court, because not enough of you bothered to go out and vote in the last election. In some of you were stupid. Enough to vote for the Madison radical elections have consequences and. It's not going to be logged before the State Supreme, court becomes liberal. Remember the next vacancy on the court is filled by a devers appointment. There's more conservatives than liberals, so if a conservative has to leave I, doubt or sickness, or any reason everts them flips the cord over to the left, which is going to happen. It's inevitability that that is going to happen. Thanks to Kelly how they lost nonetheless. Conservative majority on the court edit is at the woman. Five two metres. Many here say why haven't they already struck? These will remember. That's five individuals. You need to get four of them to agree here. And it's possible. One or two of them are wobbly on this and. Remember the conservative position Conservative legal ideology is you don't do what's right you do. But by the Constitution Ad, if there are a couple of justices on the court, who believed that Iverson Pob have legal authority to do what they're doing. Even if it's stupid if they don't believe that. Violates the. Constitution they may be willing to uphold that authority. I don't know what's going on. It's not like you get leaks out of the state. Supreme Court. Areas possible that they may be waiting for the end of Iverson's emergency authority. which is tomorrow to issue a ruling I don't know. But in the meantime, the State Supreme Court is not giving any relief from Tony at it's possible that you're not gonna get any relief from the State Supreme Court on Tony Iverson's ruling meaning that all of this is going to have to be solved political pressure into the political process, and that means a lot more people challenging up criticizing and starting the kind of pressure that results in public officials changing their positions on this. There has been very little of this so far and there has been almost none of it from the Republican Party. Now the Republicans say what are you talk at all? We took the cork. Belatedly. In terms of raising voices and questioning this, there's been almost nothing. And the comments that have come out have been as I've been arguing Caspar milquetoast well. It's not clear it's confusing. It doesn't. you know what give creating a proper ballots. When you offer comments as muted and whispered and Wimpy. Is that all you succeed in doing? Putting a tar put a target on the back from liberals, because they now know who was willing to actually criticize it without doing anything to get in any actual public attention. Because your comments were so we'll see you may as well fire away because the left is going to beat you up without regard to how hard you hit. I've tried to explain this the speaker Voss. Feces to him in the mail, and it's not exactly like Robinson been particularly hard hitting this, so there's only so hard. They're going to be able to hit you, so you may as well actually go up and starts taking taking stands on principle and fighting on this. And boss if anything has been more out there than some other people. There is still a profound flaw however. And the approach that's coming from Republicans and I'm going to address this in the next couple of segments. Because their flaw is premised on their belief that there's a role for government in this at all. We had to replace Iverson solder with another border. Are Rob Hutton today, the state should never order. Each county should have an order. Okay, so instead of having one order from one network. GonNa have seventy two orders from seventy two nuts. I'm GonNa, give you the four o'clock hour. Word the leave you with this thought of this. With the world come to an end. If there were no orders. And people just figured out on their own ought to get through this. With the world to leap and and One of the Republicans who have just lost that all of this Chris capita the. Generally anti-government state senators western Waukesha County. He instead has cobbled together a great big pilot glop from Wisconsin Manufacturers and commerce which. Possibly could make possibly makes things even worse than Iverson's order. I know that that seems impossible. And you've got a lot of Republicans that are jumping up and down and endorsing the thing. You even had Wisconsin Institute of law and Liberty Stand up and say they thought that was a good thing to. They're all premised on this notion that somehow the only way we can survive copen nineteen is by doing with some government order tells us to do. Under whether or not? We need to have government orders to work through this. Or we couldn't just figure this out on her own. News talk eleven thirty W I. S Mark belling late afternoon show. The latest edict from Tony Even. Indicates exactly the path that we are heading down in our society. He's given some businesses a little he's. He's in it up a little. Stores cut out open so long as they have their own entrance. There's no hallways. You're not coming through them mall. And you can't have more than five people store at the same time so much for Kohl's already the larger stores. Obviously, they're not going to try to open. Only let five people come in. Or if they do, it would be a preposterous situation. So of the retail is that were allowed to stay open. They can stay open of those that have been closed. They can reopen if they allow no more than five people in the store. At the same time, they must establish lines outside of the store in mark off where everyone could stand, and they have to mandate social distancing inside the store for some of these retailers they'll see. This is something of a lifeline which is exactly my point. This is now how the thumb of government we are. We already established. The government was going to say some businesses have to close others. Get to stay open. The ones that stay open while okay, some can do the drive through some odd now while a few more can open up. But I'm GonNa tell you how many people could come into your star. This is not freedom. This is being micromanaged. Right to the, but how many people could be in your star? A small store. Five people I giant star by people. I don't know a fever. Disorder covers the number of employees. It can be in the store at the same. Probably does. facemask. Emerged looked like they're gonNA. Read, they're they're going to mandate of yet. Even the so called Republican Plan Speaker boss right around the state last week calling for a regional reopening of Wisconsin. IDIOTIC IDEA I have tried to get answers for most of the Republicans in the immediate southeastern Wisconsin Milwaukee area. Do you support this approach or not? It's very very hard to get a yes or no on this, because most of them don't have the guts to stand up and say. Robin Voss's full of crap with regional approach. A regional approach means the state of Wisconsin gets to say that some businesses have to remain closed. To say that we're going to allow people in some regions, they have freedom and others in. Not. Is If anything even more obnoxious than the original thing. That other dumbbell ideas let each county decide on their own. So some county health director some cases that no head. A hole in the ground is going to be decided to get one county could open other up for crying out loud. I'm throughout the following concept. What do you think would happen? Tony Acres. His order was toward up today and we had no rule. I. Know People just the world would add. But that's how the world was. A few weeks ago. What do we pick what happened? I'll tell you what will happen. Stores will stay close. Some offices will still be closed. Some companies companies like ours, which is bending over backwards looking for ways to get rid of people. They're gonNA. Keep telling people to work at home. That automatically everybody's GONNA suddenly reopened their doors loaded tech also. Some workers aren't going to want to come back to work. If, we opened up the bars and restaurants. A lot of would be half empty. Because a lot of people won't feel comfortable going into them. Others will on their own to try to make their clientele feel comfortable. Create the same separation that some of these government rules have it other words. We all pretty much. Figure it out. If, we put everything up right now. Maybe a few churches you'd open the Kabaddi Ed. And others would say. Eight people over here three over there. They be every different matter of way of dealing with it. In other words, people could figure this out on their own. To think that we need Tony Evers and Andrea POB. To tell us how to deal with a situation, in which you've got a virus rollet aroud implies that we are all more odds and nobody knows how to live their life. Every time. We've had anything like this in the past. People figure out what they're gonNA. Do some people freak out? Some people wash their hands. Ninety seven thousand times. People do nothing and the world's never ended. Up whatever they got breakdown, he has anybody think for a minute the NBA. What's their play? I don't maybe at some point. Play without fans. They're not gonNA. Let anybody come in on their own. You're still going to see all sorts of businesses era, the side of caution. And Err on the side of freaking out over getting sued. We opened up everything right now. Do you think all the church festivals will be back I know? A lot would stay still be cancelled. Waukesha already canceled just about everything under the sun for the entire rest cancelling at all. I think there might be an edict walker shot to cancel everything that exists between now and the end of time. So the point that I make these that there was no government ordered from Tony. We would not have this open sees it because people would respond the way people respond. Some people do some things others. We'll do others. We would figure this out at our owed. We do not need a government response. We do not need a county by county response. We don't eat any of these orders. We can figure this out and once we figure it out. People can complain and carpet dispossess doing this. This one's doing that in the same way. We've complain the carpet about everything the past. We are not children. Every do not need to be bossed around by children, and we especially don't need. Republican officials to pass themselves off as conservatives with all they're doing is saying we're going to take the order here. That's to Steph and we're GONNA, replace it with one. That's less stiff. You're still in both cases ordering survived. I do not know if there is one Republican official in the State of Wisconsin has gotten up and said we don't need an order. It's time to allow people to resume their own lives and. See how they handle it. and. My guess is the way they handle it is. Not all that different than we'd handle things under some of these government orders, but we might give people the opportunity to save their lives saved their finances, and people will have the opportunity at the very least to get their freedoms back, and there would be a lot more comfortable, being able to live at a world in which people make decisions for themselves rather than having some government official making those decisions for them. I suspect all the schools that are being closed because the schools have a sweet deal here with all the teachers and all the principals getting paid work at a four day week Moonlighting Amazon, not doing a doggone thing and turns of educating the shoulder. But that isn't a statewide easy. They asked the come in order to do that. The path of least resistance for the average public school employee is almost always the one that will earn them a the most money and be required them to do the least amount of work, so this notion that there'd be all of the open seas. It'd be chaos if there was no order to fact. What we ever had open season. Generally speaking people behave responsibly. And given what germ freaks alternative into right now you will still have all sorts of people masked dubs avoiding contact w. Okay restaurants. They won't go into arrest that for the next year. You don't need government to cal that whether they can or cannot. Given that this whole Kovic story in terms of the numbers here in Wisconsin has been totally overblown and the reactions that we gave remember Andrea Palm. Put out it. I thought we were still working for Neil Ferguson two point two million deaths. She had hundreds and hundreds of people dying in Wisconsin per week. All this stuff was going to happen, and that was the premise for. Empowering themselves to Shove Asala round will none of those things happen? So what's the rationale for it now? They took away our freedom once and they're not gonNA. Give it back without a fight. And you can't look to either political party to stand up for you to have your freedom back either. Because all you're getting from Republicans in Wisconsin is a less restrictive less draconian approach. I are others Republican. Say Yes, I support open Wisconsin now then they say well. We need to do it with a regional approach. How does now and keeping some counties closed? How do those things Mesh together? Well as well, nobody said we should. You tired of AB I. Kind of say open everything up and see what happens and as I say. Give her. The fact that half this country's free to death by this whole thing here I don't think that they're gonNA come out of their basements anyway. So you're not gonNA. Have anything over what's good. It'd be crowded. Nothing. The what if anything? The grocery stores might become less crowded because somebody can go into a store other than them. That's just how you can't have fifteen thousand people this. These restaurants are going to be Plumb D.. The buyers will have the hard cores edited some people that have started craze any. Some. People won't pay any attention to swell. There are certain fee certain areas of the state that have had essentially no restrictions at all like the gas stations. You say anybody yet. Wipe it off the pump. Paul, said he i. Mean, there's no precaution. These gas stations in your walk up. Go in your punching. You're all touching. The same key PAT said well. At others you can't even walk into a high rise office building, said break. Next door is a high rise apartment building eighteen people in the elevator. They're all gumming up the buttons at all of this stuff. Grab in this grabbing that all handle. The same door handles and office building. Right next door. Nobody's even allowed to go Edward. So to say that. Things may be out of control if you allow people to be. The grocery stores are allowing all sorts of people. Then people are walking right next to one another and there. Why can't you do that in? The Hobby Lobby. Which I wonder if they will open with the five percent minimum I mean. At some point you end up angering your know this. If person, four and line. There's five people in that store my I. Don't want any browsing going added there. Say. Thank get Outta there. See Somebody at a clothing store. Your against sized fourteen. Will you be able to well? We would be for be allowed to try things out at a clothing store. Years. This website you don't need a government honor on this one way or another. We'll work it all out at some point. You gotTA liberate us. But. It's apparent to be that either is never going to release this clutches. He made a comment at the end of last week in which he said business. Wisconsin understand the good old days aren't coming back. This is an eye opener for a lot of people. They didn't think that this was something that would never end that. We would now be under permanent government control forever because we had a bug roll through the killed a few hundred people and got a bunch of people sick for a while. We didn't think that it was going to mean the end of life as we knew it. And you better understand that you're better. Start demanding life as we know it back at some point, because nobody not republican or Democrat is willingly going to give it to you. Just go to dispute over who has a thought he restrict. How many of your rights? For Milwaukee. This is the mark belling late afternoon. Show on news. Talk Eleven thirty W I S. I spent a good chunk of the beginning of today's program discussing. A preeminent expert on critical care. From the University of Wisconsin, medical school and the protocol that he's developed. The deal with Calvin Ninety. He happens to be a critic of the approach of the CDC. which she says is heavily biased toward clinical research. Proven treatments and so on. All well and good if we didn't have a virus that was in fact here right now. and not treatment yet been proven because there's not been any time to do any clinical trials. When you have a situation like a new thing coming in and you don't know answers. Perhaps is I've been arguing you can cut some slack to people who may guesses as to the best way to approach these kinds of things. But once the thing starts to play out. The best approach to take is to respond to what is actually happening. Now I made some introductory comments today. About the lack of questioning that has come. To pretty much every decision that is come down the pike here other than. A challenge to every decision, the president trump makes doesn't matter way matter. What direction trump goes on this at all. He's going to be ripped for it. And I'm not even suggesting that the president should be immune from question or criticism. It's just that there's a knee jerk while whatever trump is in favor of I'm against. It's because whatever trump is in favor of stupid in the meantime, everybody else's in charge of anything. You're in the United States. They're all saints, and they all know exactly what it is that they're doing. What expand this by talking about? The individual American and the individual wisconsinite. And I reflected over this on the weekend. That deeply, but I reflected. I think. Generally. Conservatives again. When I say generally, people always don't want to hear that word, it doesn't need. It always holds up at holds up most of the time. Generally, conservatives are rule followers. F The IRS says file your taxes by April fifteenth conservatives usually file April Fifteenth. If there's a rule out there, and you're supposed to follow it, follow the rules. Something's La go. We won't do it. It's generally the nature of most not all most people who are conservative. Historically liberals have been the people that have broken all the rules. So odd if drugs are illegal avenue, use it. So what if? Having ninety-seven girlfriends and cheating on your spouse. You know, love the one you're with Steve Stephen, stills. Say All live. Your drafted I'm not going to serve I. Don't believe of the war. Go through any number of issues. I'm not GONNA do it. I'm not going to do it I'm not gonNA. Do it I'm not GonNa do it. What has changed now. Is. Suddenly liberals have become. Rule followers. Follow any Donald Trump's rules remember. When he came in, they said resist. But when it comes to a lot of these other things, they're very very comfortable. Being sheep and following the heard. I can take you to be fascinated by. The number of people under the age of forty, running around with masks, freaked over corona virus when the evidence is overwhelming that. You got to be extremely second extremely unlucky to have the corona virus. Hit You. If you're twenty three years old and of anything to happen to you it just the cases just aren't occurring. There are extremely rare. So therefore the wearing the masks of the freaking out. It has the simply be a way of conforming. We were told that you this, so we're going to do it. This again is a new thing for liberals. We come up with the extreme examples of how they behave during woodstock us through really anywhere up to about twenty, five, two thousand five. And if there was irresponsible, antisocial dangerous dumbbell behavior going on chat stars, lefty do it. But they flapped. So now you have the combination of the fact that liberals just love being told what to do lot. Liberals love this notion of enforcing their version of social responsibility. It move over to the fact that conservatives generally rule followers to begin with. This created will use the term again. The perfect storm for government to come in and response to Covid nineteen and hand handout a bunch of edicts. But lefties were of a mind to follow things I think the rationalization in here of well, maybe it'll screw up the economy, and that harms. Trump probably works into the way they think this through. The fact that they could be given government checks while keeping their jobs if they worked for government probably colored them to, but. They quickly followed it healed, but the reaction of many conservatives was the heel and respond to because we're rule followers. The question of challenging the legitimacy of the rule is not something that normally comes easy to somebody who is a conservative minded person. We've always had that fascination of how. Societies and cultures could follow despotic leaders and act. So terribly. Well this is where I do develop on Ratchet Organization is the second strongest human drive. How did we have? In place the following two factors in the southern part of the United States. For a couple of centuries. Overwhelming Christianity? And overwhelming. Of Slavery Both are in place in the southern part of the United States. How could you have a mindset where people who call themselves Christians could justify owning another human being. Germany, a predominantly Christian country. How could they justify following Hitler? At some point, the rule the way of life, the edict that's in place. Is Illegitimate on its face. With regard to the corona virus as I said you initially have to create a rationale to do something terrible and every awful decision that was ever made came with a rationale the institution of slavery. Hitler's March to Nazism. You create a crisis. Two. Million people are going to die. To justify extreme reaction, and once you put in place the rule. It's amazing how a custom people get to following the rule. Even if the role was based on a lie. Hitler had told nothing, but lies in order to get. The Germans to accept his mindset an ideology, but once they accepted they were in, and he had that power. Enter tele -tarian snowed. Ever let up on it. What I think happened here with Corona viruses, you initially had in the suburbs and more conservative areas, initially overwhelming compliance because people thought it was the right thing to do. There was again this lack of questioning or Who Am I to question. But what is developed over the last two months is pushing now rebellion. and. We are going to have this. Come to a head in our country. When Tony. Evers makes comments like the what he made last week the good old days. They're never coming back. Half this country at least once those days coming back. And, when you're talking about pretend potentially long-term. Economic Destruction I don't think it's dawned on people. How many jobs will not come back I? Don't think it's dawned on a lot of liberals. How government budgets are going to be decimated? That, decline in GDP in the second quarter is now being estimated. We don't know what it is. We're only in the middle of it. It could be thirty five percent down. That's number without precedent. To think you can instantly recover from that and have that come back. The number could up fifteen percent the quarter after that barely barely climb and two steps back on the big giant ladder. Once people realize that everything they ever knew about America. Has Changed at all. Sorts of rights were taken from them in the ability to do things like go to ball games and go to a football. Go to packer game, and not on. I can't go to packer games the badgers. Fans that when you allow people back in there be ten thousand. You can't have this at restaurants. Say nobody can ever shake a hand again and no stranger could ever be seen kissing somebody else in public, and you can't do this and you can't do that and we're all poor Ed. All of these governmental institutions have to be scaled back. We're GONNA have fewer cops fewer firefighters because our government budgets are cutted. People will wonder back and ask how we ever allowed this to occur. Now I do believe in the point I mentioned on this whole. Revolution is some of the people who initially accepted these measures. Did Not know. That, they were signing up for accepting these measures for a long long time. You'll recall the Tony Iverson his first order. And I'm not giving him credit for this because he's not clever enough to come up with anything. Ran Till April twenty fourth. and. I've noticed in listening to a lot of people talk that there are actually some people who thought that it would end April twenty fourth. They never understood that they put an end. Remember that month long. Order seemed like a long time when he put it out. But the okay, we can ride this out. They never presumed that the orders would be extended and extended uneven when they get lifted early lifting at a little five people in a store. This one still can't open. No, you can't go on and on and on and on and odd. Politically, the only vehicle that exists to represent this point of view is Donald Trump. and. He hasn't exactly expressed it yet. But there's nobody else on the political scene that I think you can count on to do it. Ed Eventually. I believe trump is going to find his voice this. At bringing our country back and we'll have to decide whether or not he wins or loses right now. I'll admit the democrats have the wind at their back. We have an election for Congress in the northern Wisconsin district tomorrow. It's a Republican district yet. The Democratic candidates dunker might actually be Tom Tiffany. No one really knows polling very unreliable. You again here. The same thing Republicans motivated vote etc, the same proud that we had in the Supreme Court election. The Democrats tell everybody to stay at home except to do all of the things that they actually care about doing. Those things I never under any stay at home orders. Tiffany's actually one of the word Conservative members of the assembly he'd be a great voice to see out there, in Madison, but let's face it. We're out of losing. We have some people that are out there talking about recalling Tony Recall. We can't even win an election right now. We could even win. A State Supreme Court election when the other side was running. Running a radical for crying out loud. You gotTA prove. We can win an election before you start talking about recalling people and so odd. and. What are the difficulties is that Republicans are not offering a lot of inspiration people on their side, the perfect storm again that term use for Democrats a dispirited Republican side and Democrats taking advantage of the crisis to steal away all of our power, all of our authority, all of our rights, and they will never on their own willingly. Give it back again, God. We are getting close to what I said. It would start happening. May I thank? My timeline has been pretty accurate. We're getting close to more and more people. Beginning to simply say we're not going to follow these awful rules. We're GONNA. Take the path of survival. We gotta take the path of restoring a quality of life. Another side and again early on the signs are going to be trickles and scatters. Some bars reopened over the weekend in Shawnee County. The Sheriff says he's not GonNa do anything about it. He says he's not going to enforce the order. This is the first county that I'm aware of right now where? You have a combination of law enforcement saying we're not going to enforce the order and businesses actually opening up. Hartford's police says say that they're not going to enforce the order, but. The business owners they're apparently are all a bunch of wimps and well, even if they're not gonNA, enforce it. We're GONNA stay closed. Again these things will gradually start to age. There will be more and more defiance in place. At some point, one of the larger churches here in Wisconsin. Is, GONNA Open Up. Say anybody who wants to come in. Is GonNA come in? And we're going to see whether the police start arresting to hundred and fifty people for trying to go into a church. This is going to be in front of us. At it does need to happen because as I say, you can't look to politicians to fight to give you your rights back. The best getting out of Robin. VOSS's regionally reopened the state income up with ninety seven different rules that micromanage us, so they micromanage us a little bit less than Tony Evolves. As for Scott Fitzgerald. He's just trying to get to June first. Nobody filed pulls avenue papers to run against him for Congress. This is going to have to come from the people themselves simply going to say we're not going to take this. As I predicted is going to happen. While there's initially this sense of well. We'll follow the rules committee conservatives. It's not GonNa be at the point of giving up their country and giving up their way of life and giving up their freedom. Not going to do it. And you may cancel all these events and say you can't do this. You can't do that. You can't do the other thing. But people are not going to put up with. Not, their kids not being allowed to visit a friend. They're not gonNA up with tattle tales, calling the cops because five people are in their house. In some communities they're not gonNA put up with people not being able to go to a restaurant and sitting Kendra table if they want to. This is big. and. It's going to have to as I. said come from the people themselves, because you simply can't count on anyone in government from either political party to do it for you. You'll be able to knock be over. I'll put it this way. I will be stunned if in the next two weeks. You get a Republican official of the State of Wisconsin, standing up in calling for simply define Iverson's order. Whether. There's an order in place, and there's this start resuming your life. You're just not gonNA get that from political figures. They're incapable of doing it impart. If you're a Republican. They are immortal terror of being ripped by the media. And, secondly being government officials themselves, they are prone to Ford looking for government solutions on their own. Trump tapped into when he was elected in two thousand sixteen, this thrown passion on the part of many Americans who had been alienated from both political parties who want to live a country premised on the principles that we were founded upon. And I am pessimistic about the long term future of this country if You don't start to see Americans themselves citing to reclaim these things without regard to what some government rule is or is it. It starts with raising your voice. And after raising your voice, it's going to have to move to action, and as I say as you watch people in their own individualized walking on the streets. Nobody's doing any social distancing people that are living apartment. Buildings Aren't doing any social distancing you go in the grocery store. People standing some distance apartment. It's not like nobody's going in there to eat their food. People are gradually becoming fed up with this as the weather warms up. There's no way you're going to be able to keep. All the people out of the lake crowded at the sheriff's department is going to go down there and start trying to grab everybody up. You are going to see riots. Do you think? That in the inner city where people are being told they have to stay twenty four hours a day in substandard housing that they're not gonna go outside, and they're not gonna go into parks, and so on. It's eighty five eighty, five eighty eight degrees outside. This has all happened very very fast. It's been all very very illegitimate. It's all been paste face based on very very phoney premises that this the virus something that was going to kill us all off. But as I say this great power grabbing this restriction of our rights and turning us into a totalitarian society, and that is where we are right now. When you got a governor, say which store can have a number of people in it. That's Talibanism. It's the face of it. And you see almost no support from political leadership either party saying that it is time. For us to start defying this guy when you have hundreds of people contacting individual Republican members of the assembly. And the best response you get. The guy running around two parts of the state that don't have the virus speaking on behalf of the legislature, and saying well I think regionally. We should reopen this, but keep screwing my own district in racine as Robin did. And again I found out here but I realize he's getting crap from the other side for just saying anything at all. You got back. Literally got a bag of crap sent to. At as as I, just been telling you, but I'll tell Scott Fitzgerald so at all of them. All the other wheaties including I mean you guys in Germantown you've got. Your old guy, there may as well be a democrat. They're sending out his health advisories at all of this stuff, no apparent shame for the bad advice that came from Andrea and so on you cannot look to the political process to solve this on the other hand. You also cannot out all of the political process to be hijacked. By Democrats as bad as some of these Republicans can be on these issues, the alternative right now is works. These are people that are trying. To permanently, take your rights away. I mean the candidate run against Tiffany is right out of the AFC playbook. And people like her are getting her way that the dream of people like. is to tell all of us what we can. Can't you with every aspect of our lives? Put a mask on this dude. Dr The other thing. The lesser of the two evils, which is what a Republican candidate right now in my mind sadly is. Is still much more better than as. That than the alternative. So if you already been willing to vote to stop these people who are trying to take away your rights. We do. In terms of what's going to happen within our own communities as I've been saying I believe this is going to come to a head. And every day the weather gets warmer, which would certainly not be right now. It's going to come to more of ahead. If? You're going to ask the biggest stimulus for that would be. It'll be the drying up of government. Assistance people going out of business. And the understanding of the reality that yes, my life is going to be ruined. I am going to go under because we aren't going to continue to be able to pay for this off. Government checks once that starts the kick in once reality kick said. Triggered that with people, just being sick of being told the cat walk into a park. And this revolt is going to happen. Somebody go to a break here. Just, don't expect this to be led by anybody. Who's any elected official? The one possible exception as Donald Trump. Who I do believe at some point is gonNA realize he was sold a bill of goods by FAUCI and Berks, and he needs to stand with the segment of the public that believes in freedom, because the other side will never support him no matter what he does. Same. News talk eleven thirty W I s mark belling late afternoon show. I'M NOT GONNA. Give you answered as just want you to think about it. One year from now. Do, you think you'll be able to. Go visit your mother in a nursing home and go into a room. When you're from now. The fact that? We can't answer that with any certainty on either side. Tells you what's happened? And as I say, don't look for any of the Authoritarians to effort. Give this willingly back. And just wait for the next sickness and the next the next the next to the next of the next one. This is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way and I think they don't know what they can do to resist. So at some point, you just have to resist. And as I say, that is going to happen. Waiting to say. If, seven people went to the nursing. We're just GONNA go ahead. We're going to see. The cops go to put all seven of those people seven different people visiting seven different old folks, so they all could be sitting there in jail. Or at some point with some of these law enforcement agencies just say as you're starting to see and shot county. Racine got no, we're not. We're not GONNA do it. Do it. I want to share with the audience right now and after I conclude this, go to the. L. Pay your bills cash contests. This is not the most strongly written impassioned Kala, but this is why I chose it. The Guy who wrote it is he's establishment guy. His name is Gerard Baker. He was the longtime publisher of the Wall Street Journal. In other words, not a flame thrower. Is a member of the global corporate media establishment. Conservative, principle sort of, but he's mostly an establishment carrying, and he's offering analysis of how this is playing out. So you're not GonNa get the passion that you're getting mark belling. From him. But I think his observation is correct. It's darting on him. That the public in the United States is growing. Very impatient. With what is being done to them? So I, WANNA share with you his column. And again. I think it's very insightful. He writes and he's focusing. It starts as columbine focus the whole Neil Ferguson story. If you're not familiar with Neil Ferguson's the guy who developed the imperial college model, which created all these lack lockdowns. He was caught. Breaking the order and Britain by going to visit his married girlfriend in defiance of all of the orders that occurred only because he came out and quickly said two point, two billion people would die, so he starts at that point. That's the rapids. Professor Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London. Has Been something of a poster boy for the lockdown extremists of our pandemic age. His epidemiological forecast, two months ago of a quarter of a million British dowse prompted Boris Johnson's government to drop its cautiously liberal approach, containing the corona virus and impose strict stay at home measures on the population. The same bottle has proved influential and US policy discussions to forecasting, as it did more than two million deaths here. The way given to the professor's advice was always slightly curious, not just because it was one bottle among many, but because could charitably described as his uneven record and epidemiology epidemiologic forecasting, he vastly overestimated the number of British deaths from the infection caused by mad cow disease in two thousand. What let me Interject Mad Cow? Ever many people said that was going to wipe out the population. Remember that. Ferguson was part of that to back to the column. As well as overstating the impact of bird and swine, flu and following years this week, professor are Gessen's reign of error. Good line was brought to an abrupt end in fitting petard, hoisting fashion, one of the world's most vocal proponents of stay at home and save lives message was forced to resign after acknowledging that he had been visited at his home by a lover on two occasions during the fiercest phase of the epidemic spread, moreover the woman with whom he was for brief interludes socially. Distancing was herself involved in montage, particularly ill-suited to our current viral paddock. It open marriage. In its picky you way. The defenestration or perhaps reveal. Professor Ferguson carries a moral fable for our distressed times. There is something qripoli authoritarian. About the way in which public officials scientists, and of course, that reliable ECHO, chamber of establishment consensus the modern media. Have seized on this moment of crisis. To order US confined to our homes. Revelation of the lockdown with areas assignation has added the time honored element of rank, Capela Chrissy to authorities style here as evidence of the economic carnage, the lockdown is doing to the count as the country piles up. Our. Own Authority figures many of them in public sector jobs with protected incomes. Continue to tell us that we must stay incarcerated and economically at active. The message is backed up by a media tells us that well. Other countries are starting to open up their academies. Americans must stay at home because somehow we are doing so much worse than anywhere else, but the US death rate per million years according to the latest data. About two hundred thirty. That's per million. Though, international comparisons are both invidious and misleading. This number puts the country somewhere in the lower echelons of developed countries in terms of the lethality of the virus, significantly lower than Spain Italy, the UK Belgium the Netherlands, France if some way above Germany, the country that really is the outlier among major developed busted academies, despite the daily Ranting from some critics, the US is doing somewhat better than most of its peers. Of course it is still early days, and cautioned remains wise, but it is starting to look as though Americans across the country. Tired of the constraints. And fearful of further economic loss. Are Starting to seize the initiative and start the long process of returning. To something like normality. With or without orders up now, an energetic. That's what I was referencing that I believe is beginning to happen. The people is simply starting to resist, and that's Baker is observed year. He continues. This popular uprising! May represent an organic counterpart. To the way in which we started to control the virus in the first place. A close look at the data now suggests. That in much of the country, people voluntarily began to eschew social interaction before the orders went out. And that it may have been that behavior. As much as any enforce dowd. That has succeeded in reducing the viruses spread. Let me interject in other words. He's saying. Some people started distancing on their own before the ready government orders. Again by point that people can handle this figure this out of their own and finally Baker concludes. Now as it seems that the worst fears have not been realized, and the goal of flattening the curve to avoid overwhelming hospitals has been met. People across the country are similarly substituting their own a judgment. And demanding a restart. Rather than acquiescing to authorities demands. It is put essentially American. Trust in the People's Wisdom Energy and creativity prove a better way out of this crisis than slavishly following the lead. Of those who often consider themselves to grand? To heed their own strictures. Baker appeared over the weekend in. The Wall Street Journal. As I say he's not exactly a flaming. Hardline resists person he is observing. However, the points that I was making the longer time goes on the more resistance there will be from the American public's, if for no other reason than people can figure out how to handle these things on their own. I believe politically. The winning side of this issue. is in the longer term and I mean. Several months of now overwhelmingly going to be on the side of giving people their freedom back and overwhelmingly on the side of not being among those who are trying to lock us all down. The path of least resistance right now lockdown to what the Media Watson so odd. But the public is fickle on this. There is only so wrong you can shove the majority of surround. Liberals have always wanted to shove everybody else around. They have gotten initial compliance, but they did so on the basis of ally. This wipe everybody out. And Baker points out. You don't have to look for a politician from poverty to lead you out of this. Because they're not gonNA, do it. The most brazen Republican Unified Robin was well. Maybe we can regional area. I'll put you know. Maybe we have county to any single case at all. We could allow somebody there. To go into a restaurant and eat a fish. FRY IT Woods. It's not gonNA cut it. Unless. We simply are going to be communist Chinese, and under the thumb of government shoved around for the rest of our lives. We have to start resuming our normal lives without regard to whether or not we get. The evil eye because we don't have a God. We have to be willing to allow churches who wants to to start opening. Their, doors. We have to be willing to go over and visit friends if we feel like without fear of cops arresting us. Before Tony. Everts ever gives us the go ahead to resume this, and he will never totally lift his lockdown. Never the always be subbed I five years now. There are still be some restrictions if they have their way. Oh No more than five thousand people that have asked about whatever. This is gonNA. Come with it. And we are going to decide whether or not. We are GONNA. Keep putting up with this. It is bad enough that for two months, people have not been able to see the doctor for all sorts of. Needed procedures. It is bad enough that we have seen as many businesses that are teetering have it is bad enough that we have wiped out this much of the economy, and for all of you left as it is bad enough that we're going to have to slash funding for public schools for the next several years, because government budgets have been cratered. All over an overreaction. To one more of the many illnesses that comes around and plagues us. That was all bad enough. The question is. Now that we know everything that we get, and how all of these things were so wrong whether or not, we are going to begin the process of taking our lives back or not. We'll find out soon. Enough it as I say the weather I, think is a major factor in this. There's only so on. People are going to tolerate this and as Gerard Baker a moderate observed, people are already beginning to take these things into their own hands, and that's just going to continue by advice to some of these namby-pamby Republicans is to get on the right side of this. Stop following the lead of your leadership, stop worrying about the media. And getting up there and demanding freedom open Wisconsin now without restriction we can figura restrictions on our own. We always have we always will. You know what I write about this, don't you? Know this rebellion is coming to. It's coming it slow motion because this is a rare case of rebellion coming from the right. When we rebel, it's polite like the tea parties in so odd, but it's. A. Yeah, it's it. What do you think Eddie rebellion is just that? There's going to be pushed back. There's already incredible pushback. But there's always strength in numbers. The more people resist. The SAFE REP becomes for other people to resist this. We're now wired to be slaves. We're not wired to be under a governmental up. We're not wired to be told that there's no joy at freedom in life. It's not part of the American human psyche at as part of the psyche of a minority of Americans those who believe in controlling others. They would not have been able to do it without the big lie. In the first place that this virus was going to wipe us all out, you could say maybe it wasn't a lie. Maybe they were just rog well. We know they're arrived. Now. Dot We, so there's no excuse left. One of the podcast system and delete all those commencement speeches, so we don't further polluted those minds by having them here. Bill Gates by Microsoft get a vaccination CNN last year. I mentioned earlier in the program. The situation in Shot County and I wanna go back and read a really inspiring quote from the sheriff here as I mentioned earlier, the sheriff from Shadow County says he will not enforce the Iverson Order. We've had a few sheriffs that have been that have been willing to say this. Including the interest the sheriff in Racine County as well. Now the Chateaux, cody story is coming to ahead. Because apparently, some buyers have simply opened in Chateaux County. and. The Sheriff says he's not GonNa do anything about it. Again these are these early stages that I've mentioned of. This resistance and defiance of people saying that I could put up with this crap. This is the quote from out of Bieber. He's the sheriff of Shadow County. Health code orders should never encroach on the constitutional rights of the American people. The bill of rights was designed to protect against government overreach, and I have taken an oath to defend the constitution. My grandfather fought to defend this nation against the Nazis in World War Two. My father fought against the Communists in Vietnam job and I will fight to protect our constitutional rights here at home I will not infringe on the rights of Americans to peaceably assemble or prohibit free exercise of religion, the right or the right to travel. The sheriff what I say that that also includes the ability for people to work I, believe that people personal responsibility supersedes government intervention. Leaders should not be treat should not pre people at subjects, but as citizens. And allow people to make decisions based on information provided them. Citizens should be encouraged to take precautions for their own well being, but not be threatened with kids or imprisonment. For doing normal actions that are considered. constitutional. And now another story pertaining to covid nineteen. There are certain numbers. Then end up helping you understand the story. Over half of all of the Kuroda virus that's in the united. States have come from just five states. And of those the majority of those have come from New York. So what other words more than half? The Kuroda virus deaths have come from just five states. And those five states. More than half of them, among the five states have come from New York again. I'm not saying more than half of the United States have come from New York. Forty five states. And then five states have about equal corona virus number two, and then of that universe of five states, new. York has more than half of them. On this business of encouraging people to live their own lives. The problem that they had any York was actually a problem of bad government. Advice right when the thing was hitting. which might have been a time for people to show if not social distancing some precaution? The mayor of New York de Blasio WHO's now Mr lockdown king encouraged everybody to go to chinatown the ultimate melting pot, and included obviously a number of people who had been to China related to people who are from China and seeing people trying to go to Chinatown and go hang together. I doubt. that. That's something that at the time, most people would have thought prudent, but it was what they were telling us that. New York which also didn't shut out at subway stations. Ground Zero for transmission of the virus. Now obviously. The largest population, the state, the more cases you're going to get and the list of the five states. Are, New York New Jersey Massachusetts. Michigan and Pennsylvania. Interestingly California's not on the list. Many people believe that the virus hit California earlier on a lot of people were never counted, simply died, it was thought to be the flu or natural causes, because the thing got out of China fire that expected sale. The thing that those states have in common in addition to being large for example Texas that analysts, very large state and population second I think. Is concentration of people in cities and heavy use of mass transit and lots of people living in high rise apartment buildings multifamily housing where they live on top of what other. All, not when you think about it surprising. To use these situations. As Ratchet L. for a national restriction on our rights and way of life. I want you to ponder this point as we go to the break. Think how bad it would have been. If we actually had two million deaths, we never would have recovered any rights ever. They were able to accomplish this. Over something that has had such a minimal impact on the mass, a vast majority of American citizens. And it's got to be up to the American people to decide how log they're gonNA put up with it. They got Milwaukee this is the mark belling late afternoon? Show on news? Talk Eleven, thirty W I said. Perhaps later in this week we'll do a lengthy story on. What is happening to just giving away three months of education in the State of Wisconsin, which is a problem at the high schools, but a scandal at the universities? It's one thing to say you'll give up one quarter of an elementary education the last twelve years. It's something else altogether to say that we're essentially going to treat an entire semester. Of A four year college program. As something that can be ignored. I get all sorts of anecdotal stories of wonderful work at Craig and a lot of private schools. Where they are rolling up their sleeves and doing everything in their power to serve their kids. Dropping off materials constant online lessons. Empowering parents with significant support materials to assist in the lyric. and. Other private schools may be nut is going on. In terms of public schools I hear of many teachers that are trying. To go the extra mile, but they are not backed up by their administration. They're not allowed to issue letter grades. If you can't let issue a letter grade, you've got no leverage on the kid to make sure the kid that does any work. You can't force the kid to participate in a zoom lesson since not flunky anybody. And, then you hear stories of some school districts that are doing almost nothing at all. There are some districts that have moved to a four day week. Head of a joke given that it's an online week in the first place. I reported on the program last week. That I have heard anecdotally that a number of teachers working at Amazon Kenosha on the day shift. I've contacted. The West Allis West Milwaukee School. Superintendent Mardi LEX Mont. he says he'll look into this. I'm not in a position to provide any names here. I. Don't know if they can catch anyone but any teacher. That's obviously hang around Amazon isn't doing anything during the daytime. The situation is especially dire in some of the larger school districts. Now I'M GONNA. Share something from someone, and I'm not going to identify him even though I don't think he has any qualms about it, he is, he's got an agenda. He's an official with a local private school. He's referencing how the Milwaukee Public School system has gotten away with murder here without any criticism from the public or the media. They're essentially taking all of this money including their referendum body. And, doing no teaching at all. In a population of kids that desperately need education. He writes mark an utter disbelief that no one in the local news media Arcachon NPS, the task for doing little to no instruction over the past six weeks. He references that his own daughter goes to. School and That within a matter of weeks, they were up and running with all sorts of interesting programs using Google Forms Google me zoom private tube channels, and so odd. None of this is going out at NPS. Mark I have a close relative in several good friends who worked for NPS. One of them works at one of the highest performing MP schools within the district Reagan high. Despite his and others best efforts after they shut down, they were instructed. They could not send lessons out to students or engage in any online classroom communication with students whatsoever. Again this is what's going on. Teachers are not allowed in NPS to send out material online to their students. Find a news organization that's reporting that continues. The other message from the district virtue signaling to cover up the fact that they are completely caving to the teachers did and prioritizing adult infra silver student needs lots of talk from the District and Union about opportunity gaps in societal disparities in terms of access to technology. That's a reference when I could have said any of this stuff up online, because some kids primarily African Americans Latinos may not have online access. It wouldn't be fair to some that. Some kids get the lessons and not others. Continuing Yet there are numerous schools serving low income students of color across our community who are shifted to revolt learning. This was not easy for any of the leaders and teachers involved. Get these private schools made the shift because they prioritize students need over adult interests as part of the mission of their schools, and it is frankly part of how they look at themselves as teachers and leaders who stir serve student needs i. And he concludes the shutdown, whereas illustrated more than ever the brutal reality. The NPS prioritizes adult interests over student needs the fact that they are using the opportunity gap language to hide their appalling lack of effort to meet the needs of low income students shameful. The lack of local media coverage around this issue was travesty. We literally have a sector of charter choice schools teaching kids right now while the largest entity in our community. NPS sits on the sidelines and talks about social disparities with no. What holding them accountable. The high performing choice and charter schools understand the societal disparities and the opportunity gaps in our community. Our reality, which are kids must overcome. They simply refused use these disparities in gaps, excuse for low performance again. There are other districts that are behaving disgracefully as well Kenosha bad racine's doing lousy. Some of these districts are saying that they're operating school days while providing no instruction. Everybody's getting paid and they're not going to make up the days. I grant you that. There are some exceptions in the Public School Realm, some doing better than others and within individual districts, some teachers showing more interest than others. There has been virtually no media coverage however at all. Of how the Cave in by M. P. S.? To the Teacher's Union has resulted in M. P. S. essentially offering no school at all. For months side end. For a student population more than any other in the state that desperately needs it. And as I say Kenosha racine her about as bad, there are probably a lot of other examples out there of disgraces well. Once. The decision was made that they weren't going to make the days. That empowered Iverson you this shut down. Because if the shutdown had met, all the teachers would after work over the summer. They would have raised buddy murder and there wouldn't have been a shutout. So that everything in place, shut down the schools. They'll make you make up the days and then. But these public school districts, some of whom are among the highest spending in the state like Milwaukee. Get Away with not teaching kids at all. Again. Another story in which no one in the media is challenging anything at all. Well some kids do not have the computer well. Maybe you should be asking open up the schools then. What about the kids who want to learn? If ever there was an argument to get rid of NPS. Get rid of public schools now. I will grant you this. For the charter schools, the private schools and so on they have to. Right now provide education and go beyond. Take the step and they have to do it. I want you to think about this point for a moment. Why do they have to do it? Your Private Schools School Choice School Charter school. And you aren't going the extra mile right down during the slack down to make sure the kids get educated. Why do they have to do it? The answers kind of obvious unless you're trapped in a governmental mindset. If? You're a parent who takes her kid out of public school to go to a private school. You're choosing while that you think is going to educate your cats. This is an opportunity for them to prove. Hey, we're better than the private school down the road. We can shine. Obstacles are up, but we're going to deliver for your right now because they are at a competitive environment, the people that are stuck in the crap. Public School Systems feel no competition with anyone. TAKE CHECK THE AD by stimulus. Check we sides. Oh, I think I'll go to work at Amazon in addition to all of that. and. Nobody will do a day I'm thinking about it. Let's go beyond the realm of the Urban Education Milwaukee doubt. Private schools in more affluent areas that charge a hefty tuition. Parents that are paying the full cost of the tuition. For their kids in some of those schools, I'm not gonNA, tolerate the crap your getting out of the public schools right now. We're in PS. No lessons at all. Some of the others, maybe one thing once a week. Maybe. The teacher sets up one session on zoom for five minutes a day. That won't be tolerated by para. WHO's right? I got tuition check for nine thousand ten thousand eleven thousand dollars to a private school. It is kind of interesting. That the people that are the biggest champions of these lockdown. Are the ones that are getting away with no financial loss at all at least yet. While doing the least amount of work. The gold breaking from the public schools a profound story. Again Failed to be covered. By the media. Type! Eleven thirty wins Mark, belling late afternoon shy, but On my program. Or at least commenting from time to time that I believe that you're joining to see gradually more and more signs of people in Wisconsin resisting. He's lockouts and other story on this now over the weekend, a restaurant in Beaver dam opened up. They just said screw it. We're opening. I think it must be kind of a biker theme place, it's called sixth gear and the photos that I see here. There are a lot of bikers in the parking lot, but it's not exclusively that end I think it's more of a restaurant and a bar. Nonetheless, they opened. The Sheriff Sheriff in Dodge. County Deal Schmidt. has implied that he would not be enforcing the governor's order. And indeed nobody made them shut down, so the six scare was open. And apparently dead spectacular business on Facebook, the owner says I'm closing today Monday, but only to clean and sanitize the restaurant. We sold out of all of our food. So there are clearly people that want to patronize these business operators. that. Have the guts to open up anyway. Of course. If you're dealing with a bar or restaurant, you have to be willing. You have to be in a community in which the law enforcement is going to allow you to do it. These things to I've heard stories of a bowling alley northern Wisconsin. That would just open. These are just going to increase in number. And the longer that we go that we are stuck under twenty his edict, the more people that are going to be in communities that are not governed by liberals that just going to say. Hey, we're going to open up. I'd love somebody to buy one of those bars in Hartford just so that one of them actually opens up since the cops there said that they're not gonNA. Do Anything to close them down in time. Things like this are going to happen. We're going to shift gears when we come back after the break and I want to talk about. The story that I don't want people miss even though it's overwhelmed in terms of coverage by the covid story, and that is the revelation of the shaft job that the FBI idea to Michael Flynn. I think the thing most extraordinary about the fact. That, they set up an interview for the sole purpose of trying to manipulate into a lie, so they could take someone who had committed no crime and turn them into a criminal. I think the most remarkable thing about that was that this was not some low level conservative citizens somewhere that they thought that they could grab. He was a retired three star general. Who was the national security adviser for the United States incoming? If! You can do that to Michael Flynn. Railroad him and turn him into a criminal. No what is safe. The fact that the FBI tried to cover up what they did to fled. After having done it. We can't let that story just slide. Given the fact that we have the bigger fish to FRY at trying to lift ourselves back into liberty right now. We can't let that story from a story slide so coming up in the next segment. I'M GONNA. Give you the chance for the six o'clock hour to win the thousand other word and the help pay your bills cash contest and share with you and update and a very well written piece. I just how? Horrible the FBI that Great America once-great American institution is slid. In terms of what he did. Flynn and why did it? News talk eleven thirty W. I. S Ad Mark belling late afternoon. Show to make you listen. To give the help pay your bills. Cash contests word after I. Share with you. It very important and powerful column from home, and Jenkins, of the Wall Street Journal about the FBI cover up. Of the railroading of Michael fled, they write soundbite purveyors will do their best to portray General Mike Flynn as a hardened criminal. Whom the Justice Department just like go is a favourite. DONALD TRUMP The case unraveled because there was no case as was revealed partly by an FBI memo. A Flynn was being targeted for political reasons. Both Flynn's interrogator struck at FBI chief. James, Colby. Never thought. He lied about his conversation with the Russian ambassador. The FBI never recommended criminal charges. It was the Robert Mother Task Force the ginned up a case used threats against Flynn's son to extort Flynn's guilty play. Why. As I pointed out the massive US intelligence establishment had looked and found no evidence of Russian collusion by the time mother was named special counsel. He knew there was nothing there. The steele dossier was known to consist of silly inventions and scrapings from the Internet. Likely tainted by Kremlin disinformation. Charges levelled at trump associates would be limited lying about non crimes. No collusion was alleged against anybody. Then, there is the intrigued that hasn't been aired or disclosed, which remains hit a classified report by the Justice Department Inspector General. This concerns the alleged Russian intelligence. That FBI Director Comey used to justify his unprecedented, improper and insubordinate interventions in the Hilary Clinton email case. I cannot stress too much. The dirt. This is very important. I cannot stress too much. The dereliction of the press. Since the flurry of disclosures in the May twenty seventeen new. York Times Washington, post, and CNN commes doings were triggered by a Russian intercept. That is FBI. Colleagues believed to be false and possibly a plant. This intelligence appeared to reveal named Democrats and Obama officials discussing a conspiracy to bury the Clinton investigation. Either Colby ignored the sevens, and implicitly became party to the conspiracies alleged goal of liberating Clinton from her email travails. Or exploited Russian intelligence. To facilitate the same end. Let me back up. What did Jenkins? Just say here. It is believed and was reported in May of seventeen. That the Russians had intercepted. That the FBI appeared. To be trying. To put together a case to allow Hillary Clinton to be cleared. Back to the column? Then when the Anthony Weiner laptops surfaced, he tried to finesse anew dilemma. By reopening the Clinton case in a way that. May well have shifted the election of Mr. Trump the press and the American public may continue to ignore these events, but it would not have been lost on Muller that. The FBI's Galumph ing actions were likely to become the story of the decade once the trump collusion story fell apart. As mother knew at what and other words with Jacobs's writing gear. Is that. Mother knew that. If the trump collusion story eventually fell apart, everybody would focus on the real story, which was the rigging of the deal that allowed Hillary Clinton escape fray on the emails. That was the deal that the FBI put the fix it odd. Thus the Russian collusion story according to Jenkins. Was Muller's motivation to keep people away from looking at the real scandal how they put the fix into clear Hillary Clinton back to Jacobs. Rate The travesties as you will not listen the FBI's role in promoting trump's victory or its role in promoting the subsequent Russia Collusion Canard. It's hard to see mothers. Four spoke pursuit of guilty pleas General Flynn. And others over trivial matters as anything, but an attempt to. We've a distracting Patina of legitimacy around the UP. The is election year actions even so. It's hard to imagine future historians ignoring the truth. One hugely expensive intelligence establishment mate, what me one hugely in one hugely in. Start that over our hugely expensive intelligence establishment, made a fool out of itself and our democracy over to likely low budget, Russia intelligence pranks the steele dossier and the fake information that sparked Calming Hillary Interventions unlike previous disclosures of intelligence agency skulduggery, these episodes do not emit any fate era of competence or This in the national interest they involve the FBI messing with the most sank percect sancrosanct of our democratic rituals, the selection of a national leader, and so clumsily that it produced the opposite of its intended result. Let me interject. As Jenkins points out, that's the great irony of this in their stumbling around with regard to Hillary the. FBI might have actually helped. Elect trump. And the column concludes. I have speculated that some patriotic desire to protect America's faith in its government may be behind the resulting cover up or simply a desire to protect the FBI and agency. Mother wants head headed, but I doubt our press has any such higher purpose. It has become so be sided with availability bias. Her social science term for the need to conform to acceptable tropes. That it no longer has a nose for a real story. Instead it relies I'd leaks, and even whole narratives Brompton its lap by manipulators who assured reporters? They are on the side of the angels. This is what accomplish leakers. Call me have done for years, but the William Bar Justice Department apparently load. It waits for supposedly independent press to show up with intelligent questions. But never. To that column deals worth not only what what I'm with the FBI how the whole Russia collusion story was an attempt to cover it up how the attempts to go and invent a crime against Michael? Flynn were an attempt to make something out of the Russian collusion story, which was never a real investigation in the first place and then. How the news media shows no apparent interest to get to the bottom of any of that. Tell appeared over the weekend again for those of you OUGHTA, track down home and Jenkins in the Wall Street Journal Leader Not Link Wall Street Journal colleagues on my website. News Talk Eleven thirty W. I s mark belling late afternoon show too inconvenient truths to end the program today, I. Consider as asked me to share this with the audience, one of the many things that were included. In Tony Evers his order. Is something that. Might not. Be All that beneficial local government and they might not want to know about. In Iverson's order at there was included. A suspension of property tax collections. If you don't WanNa, pay your property taxes, the ears order allows. People to delay property tax payments that are due until October without penalties are interest. The listener contacted me, said many of these local officials aware of it. They did raid Iverson's order. So. If you don't want to pay your property, taxes that are doing that would be. Anything that is due out a monthly basis or anything that is doing this interim. You can wait until October without having to pay interest. Or, penalties. In other words we may have found something in there. That would be a benefit to individual citizens that disadvantage the government. Anybody locally unlike it, they could bellyache Tony Evers about it and finally this. One of the things that is guide in what are the reasons I have argued that the number of positive test cases is not a good indicator of how prevalent the disease is. The more tests that you do. The more positives there are going to be, and we now are finally ramping testing in many parts of the United States. Including here in Wisconsin we open more sites again today, and most of them are free see you would expect that. The number of positive cases would begin to spike. In fact, this is very revealing. Today for the first time this month. The number of new cases dip below two hundred. So even though we are doing more tests per day, we're coming up with fewer positives per day. This combined with the now very low level of hospitalizations in Wisconsin, remaining in the low three hundred. Combined, also, then with the decline in the number of positive tests cast. Even though we're doing more tests, indicate to me. That this virus is gradually declining and Wisconsin to the point. That it is no longer possible. To justify any of the hysterical reactions we have seen. For a virus that is becoming increasingly in this state. Rare. Resist. Life.

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The O'Reilly Update, September 29, 2020

Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

13:00 min | 9 months ago

The O'Reilly Update, September 29, 2020

"It. Bill. O'Reilly here Tuesday September Twenty Nine, two thousand and twenty you are listening to the update. Here's what's happening across our nation. President trump and Joe Biden face off in Cleveland evening. Nancy Pelosi suggests the house may decide the presidential election. Louisville police officer charge, and Brianna Taylor's killing pleads not guilty. More than one in five new Cova tests come back positive in the mid west, the sale of alcohol jumping fifty five percent since the contagion began. Also. A No spin preview of tonight's debate. But I president trump and Mr Biden meeting for the first presidential debate in Cleveland according to moderator Chris Wallace the ninety minute event will focus on the pandemic economy police reform race relations in America. Poll shows seventy percent of Americans say the debates quote don't matter much in their decision. But if thirty percent can be persuaded, this is a big political night. Speaker blows, he telling her colleagues, the House may have to decide who wins the election. This November according to the Twelfth Amendment Congressional delegations will decide who the next president will be. If neither candidate wins a majority in the electoral college that has not happened since eighteen seventy six and I do not believe it will happen this year. The loan police officer charged with three counts of endangerment in the shooting death of Brianna, Taylor pleading not guilty and Kentucky. Brett. Hankinson. Accused of recklessly discharging his gun into a nearby apartment not firing the bullet that ended Miss Taylor's lot if convicted, he could face five years in prison. The positivity rate for new Cova test breaking the twenty percent mark in several states including South Dakota north, Dakota, and Montana. Health experts say anything above five percent means the disease is spreading. Their now roughly forty five thousand cases of the contagion in the USA every day. Frustrated Americans turning to the bottle a cope with the pandemic sales of alcoholic beverages up fifty five percent since the middle of April. Most popular drinks, September Tequila, vodka beer, and wine. Online purchases of spirits increase three, hundred, forty percent in the last six months. New York City leads the league in a daily consumption, and if you lived here, you would understand why. In a moment. A preview of the big debate tonight. Right back with that. Seeing the check engine light turn on can give you anxiety. Not, knowing what the issue is, how urgent or how much it could cost but with carshield I don't have to worry about that carshield is America's number one auto protection provider carshield offers a variety of protection plans that can save you thousands of dollars. You can even have the freedom to choose your favorite mechanic or dealership even if your car breaks down while you're traveling the choice of a repair shop is up to you. 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Mr Wallace says quote my job is to be as invisible as possible I'm trying to get them to engage to focus on the key issues to give people at home a sense of why I want to vote for one versus the other unquote. Because of social, distancing a about one hundred people are expected to be there to watch the debate in Cleveland there will be no traditional handshake because of cove it. Each candidate has two minutes to respond to each question. Which means they don't have to answer the question. because. Here's how it goes down. Mr Wallace will direct a question of president trump then Mr by. They can spend the candidates that is. About thirty seconds maybe answering Chris Watts's question maybe not maybe dodging. And then I can say what they want. Because Chris Wallace cannot interrupt. Now. This is the flaw in the debate system. So. You ask you good question and everybody wants an answer. Well, the candidates don't have to answer now after two minutes, which is a pretty long time in a debate format Mr walls can come back and say, Hey, you didn't answer the question and really stated. But then it gets into back and forth. There's not another time for one candidate. The other candidate can jump in. Well, I'll answer that Chris that kind of thing. So the problem here is a lack of discipline in answering the questions because if MR trump or Mr Biden or put on the spot which I think wall so try to do. They can just filibuster avoid forget what the question is. What was that question again, you see what I'm talking about. So in a debate like this it's basically all about demeanor. Now. A poll says roughly seventy percent. Of Americans do not believe that abate will matter much to that forty four percent say debates don't matter at all but. Thirty percent. persuadable. That's big and I believe this is the most important night. In the presidential campaign. because. It's close. No matter what the bogus polls tell you. It's razor thin. In, a lot of key states and across the country you have to gigantic states, California and New York which are all tied in all the time. You take those out of the equation Mr, trump is ahead. So, this is something that can go either way. And tonight we will. Find Out. and. I will have absolute no spin analysis for you tomorrow in this time. I'm Bill O'Reilly? I. Approve that message by writing it. Disagree I want to hear from you bill bill O'Reilly Dot Com and please consider my new best selling book killing crazy horse you like it. In, a moment something you might not know. My go-to Financial Tech Research Executive Jeff Brown as top notch newsletter that helps us profit from the exploding market. He provides investors like you and me with Wall Street's inside intelligence knowing how rigged the whole thing is Jeff's mission with brownstone research is to stack the deck in our favor. 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Simpson not guilty of murdering his wife and another man. And that four hours included ninety minute lunch break. So the jury was not going to convict Mr Simpson. Here's the story. In October nineteen ninety-four Judge Lance Ito began questioning more than three hundred potential jurors to decide Simpson's fate. On November. Third Twelve Americans were seated with twelve alternates over the course of the trial ten were dismissed for a variety of reasons only four of the original jurors remained on the final pal. According to first hand accounts living conditions were miserable. Protect jurors from nonstop media, intrusion police removed TV sets, radios, and telephones from their hotel rooms they were sequestered. For Entertainment, the jury was allowed to watch pre taped episodes of Seinfeld and other said cops all commercials were deleted in those tapes. In April the jurors refused to come to court. To protest their conditions, Judge Ito ordered them to appear thirteen arrived dressed in black. The media referred to the incident as a full blown Jerry volt on October second nineteen ninety-five not after just four hours of discussion. As I mentioned, the jury found Simpson not guilty and here's something else you might not know. The verdict for the trial of the century had a global impact on the economy an estimated a hundred million people worldwide watched or listened to the announcement. Long distance phone calls declined by fifty eight percent trading volume on the New York Stock Exchange dropped by forty one percent I watched the verdict at Harvard where I was studying for a master's degree. What our usage decreased is people avoided using bathrooms or cooking so much work stop that economists say the verdict in the Simpson case caused an estimated four, hundred, eighty, million dollars in lost productivity. 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085: Empathy Is One Key Skill to Win Business & Influence People - Mark Goulston

Noble Warrior with CK Lin

1:25:01 hr | 10 months ago

085: Empathy Is One Key Skill to Win Business & Influence People - Mark Goulston

"Welcome to Noble Warrior this is a place where entrepreneurs talk about what it takes to build purpose driven organizations. In purpose driven life, we're going to dive into mice said mental models and actual tactics fish that you can build your purpose driven company. My name is see KAYLYNN BY MONACO ENGINEERING UCLA PhD TURN STARTUP Executive. Turn executive coach focus specifically on my set and culture mind next gets he's one of the world's foremost out leader on empathic listening he's a UCLA assistant. CLINICAL PROFESSOR OF PSYCHIATRY FBI hostage negotiator advisor to the OJ Simpson trial. The owner of the Theory Y executive coaching is suicide specialist without losing any of his patients in twenty five years is also the author of seven books. especially, just lesson discover the secrets to getting through absolutely anyone in his writing to more cope when you can heal healthcare heroes of covid nineteen can recover from St in trauma to triumph a roadmap for leading through disruption and thriving on the other side. Please welcome Dr Mark. Golson. Who is this guy you got on Vk? That's a lot to live up to. You my friend. Thank you so much for being here. There's so many things that I want to ask you but you wanted to talk about little bit about what we just did before we hit start. Ck Lead me through a what was it called four count grounding exercise box meeting. Box Be the. I liked to go along with things and so here's the experience I had and why should do it every day and you should too. As I went through the box breathing. What I felt is I Felt the three parts of my brain safely disengaging from each other. And I close my eyes and with the breathing I could feel the thinking human part of my brain loosen from the feeling emotional part of my brain loosened from the survival part of my brain. So. Really what it was imagine a really. Tense Rubik's Cube. That's all twisted together and you're making it through life, but it's the twisted together. And would that breathing what happen is it allowed those three parts of my brain, the thinking the feeling and the acting parts of my brain. To organically just release from each other. And by the end of it they reconfigured. So what was away of safely letting go of control because one of the challenges for many entrepreneurs? is they have trouble letting go of control and unless you let go of control, you can't create. Something I mentioned a CK Ashir Story. I was recently. Speaking to a group of entrepreneurs. And it's about fifteen in the room we did by zoom and there was one woman. and. I was there to speak about communication because my book I'm listening pretty well around the world it's it's. It became the top book on this thing in the world I spoke with the Nobel Prize winner in Moscow guy named Daniel Conman. wrote a book called thinking fast and slow. No, that's what they tell me up to talk about communication entrepreneurs. But I listened into the meeting. Before the break before I was about to speak. And as I listened in I thought. They, don't care about communication. They don't care about listening. I on a good day, I can be engaging I've got some interesting stories hostage negotiation suicide so I can grab people's attention. But. I thought what? They're really struck by was Jennifer. Jennifer was this amazing young entrepreneur and I could tell all looked up to her and I looked up to her. And so before the break I said, okay, we're going on break then it's me afterwards. Here's the choice. We can talk about communication after the break and I'll tell you how to become a better listener. But most of you are entrepreneurs, you don't really like to listen you assign your you assign your people issues to someone else because God love them people are messy. it just not that clear. And so you like vision and strategy. The problem is a bottleneck with execution because you've got to do it through people until you replace them all. So I'll give you choice. We can talk about communication I'll give you some tips or I can tell you how to think like Jennifer, Elon Musk and steve jobs. So, let's go on break when we come back tell me what you want. So you can guess what they wanted. Without leader, of course, when the break was over we to Jennifer and meanwhile Jennifer is looking at me who is this crazy guy? And I'll say, here's the difference being Jennifer and the rest of you. She sees the unknown as an adventure to be lived. The rest of you see the unknown as danger to be avoided. And the reason she sees the unknown as an adventure to be lived is because that's all she's been all her life. And she believes that if she just goes out there. Things opportunities. DOTS to connect will reveal themselves to her because they always have. I said isn't that True Jennifer and she looked at me and she's how did you know these things I said? Is it true said SAPS true. And then she texted me and she said, you're gonNA coach me. So I'm coaching Jennifer and in a couple of months we've been working together. So she has a home care company wanted to one of the top homecare company. So the couple of months you've been working. She bought a nursing school. She started a company called vh your door because when you go into somebody's home care facilities. They're not allowed to have I vs. On their patients. And with all this covert, it's a real struggle to take a an elderly patient, take them to the emergency room. So she's created a whole business called issue door where she takes vans and she brings them IV's and but I wanted to share that with you because. There's a lot to be learned, and that's how by the way along musk and steve jobs look at the world. They have equality. That I learned from a mentor of mine all of you are too young to know the name Warren Bennis. If you look them up, he's one of the top five people who ever lived. And he's a thought leader in leadership and he died a bunch of years ago. Hair and and he had this great quote. That he often told me that came from a playwright named Saul Bellow. And the quote was be a first class. No Sir. Be a first class notice her because noticing is different than looking watching or seeing when you look watch or see or an observer. When you notice. You just tune into. Like I'm noticing that I'm looking into this. Camera Lens I'm not quite seeing CK. But. I'm looking into the Lens to see all of you. And so here so something that I when I work with companies about how do you? Identify those people. Is, I. Give them an exercise that monograph of water here. Excuse me. I'll give you a tangent because I think in tangents but people say that I usually bring them around. So if I don't, you'll say mark come back to the planet where. I was I've a podcast called by wakeup call Ought to people about their purpose they're calling in life. And what matters most to them and how they came. To develop that, what were the wakeup calls? So one of my favorite interviews with Tim Brown Brown is the chair of idea. He was only the CEO of for twenty years. And I'm talking to him and he's told me about his background and he's always been an engineer and like. Doing things and I said. Tim. Your first. Class. Notre. What. Your first class notice her. In fact what you do an idea These you attract people. From all different fields. Sociology psychology engineering, and you basically tell them. Ideal University go notice stuff. Notice. What's frustrating? People maybe go up to them. Find out what's frustrating them. Notice, what they're excited about, go up to them and ask what are you so excited above but that's how ideal trains it's people. Go out there, and obviously you're noticing something as a psychologist that would be different than noticing it as an engineer. But a good thing to do with your teams in yourself. Is Maybe. In your meetings. Suggest to people that in your weekly meeting? On your resume calls and by the way, this is going to wake up some of the zoom. Fatigue. And you and your roll call is to say what is something that you noticed for the first time? Meeting. I love that I want to hone honing on point that that you're pointing to here am I in Tj. So, for me for the longest time on my life was really about just the mind. Everything else the body neither emotions even spur Haliti things like that. These are just secondary tertiary. They don't even exist on overtime had to learn. Oh, there is actually something to this inquiry motion analogy there there are these things called the body there these things called spirituality as beyond just was tangible was material. So if you don't mind speaking to a younger CK who don't quite care about what you appointing to the noticing be noticed her. Why care about heighten awareness to things beyond just the obvious why care about emotionality communication? Why care about these things? I will tell you. The reason, the care about it. Is, it will stretch your brain. And you will actually have more influence in the world. So I've been fortunate in that scene as this thought leader my my wife would laugh at them but but I have connections with amazing CEO's. An amazing companies. And then I asked them I said, why are you have conversations with me? And they say. Because every conversation we have. You bring up something. That's counterintuitive. So. In other words if you can develop these skills. which you do by thinking outside the box. You will be influential people will want more of you. They won't treat you like a function. They won't treat you like a plug and play. And what these people said is you come up with something that's counter intuitive meaning. I never would have thought it. I never would have thought of it. And it's intuitively correct. Which means. That could work. I never would have thought of that and that could work. And then the third thing is I, think I can do that. So, I think one of the ways I've gained influence is. By just noticing things in all directions and in the what I've noticed started to come together and what happens is when you with other people. And they leave a conversation with you. Thinking to themselves boy I never have thought of that. That could work I think I can do fact sheer store you mentioned I was involved in the Oj Simpson trial with the prosecution, and this is how I got involved. I don't usually talk about it because I was on the side that lost but how I got involved. Is a new the DA at the time who was Gil Garcetti Gil Garcetti, was the district attorney. His son is Eric Garcetti the mayor of Los Angeles. And I knew him and I said I don't know that much about trials juries. But. If I was looking for juror. In be downtown Los Angeles, which is going to be largely African American. I would ask them. Have you ever changed your mind about the way you felt about someone. Because if they didn't change their mind about maybe an abusive dad, not going to change their mind about O. J. Simpson. And so you want people are capable of changing their mind about something. And then I would ask them what made you change your mind? Was it facts was it emotion? I said if it's emotion, you better have a compelling emotional case in fact, have a convincing case. and. He came back to me after speaking with Marcia Clark who you know the DA. And he said We never would have thought of what you just said. Ever. As. Soon, as you said, it was obvious. We need to find people capable of changing their mind we need to find people. CHANGE THEIR MIND based on whatever We said you want to join us. CAN YOU BE AN observer? So during the trial I was. they're probably thirty days and I would come in and I'd give them feedback by facts in various things. That they wouldn't thought of. I'll give you one thing that they used. Now many of you are young. Don't even remember the trial as she saw the recent movies. But I remember at the end there's a lot of the stuff I gave them. They didn't news, but at the end I thought. Okay. The jury's going into deliberation. So you know they're leaving the court. So how do you influence the way? A jury thinks When they're no longer in front of you. So one of the things I suggested which they use. and. Marcia Clark used that inner closing argument. I said, make sure you play. The tape. Of Nicole Brown Simpson. Talking to the police that OJ Simpson was at her back door. I said. The way you influence someone that you you. You're no longer seeing in the courtroom is you haunt them? What would be haunting is they're hearing the voice of the person who was murdered naming the person that murdered them. I should make sure that's in the closing argument because everybody's hurt everybody's voices for too long. And she put out in the closing argument. But can you see that was counterintuitive Geez we would've thought about and we can do that. I. Love that. Thank you for sharing that story and then really honing in on a few points. So, in personal development world, we hear a lot people make decisions emotionally and then rationalize logically afterwards in what you're pointing to is really talking about the emotional connection to whatever whatever's presented and also want to underline this to the viewers who are watching this. This is not actually just about a criminal case per se. This is how you're actually making a compelling case for a mate that you're attracting for a product services that your company's building for the difference and you WanNa make another individual human being verse foremost facts are important. Don't get me wrong on Fiji background totally get it in at the same time. How do you actually made that? Emotional connection says that touched their heart. More share something with you. So when I spoke in Moscow along with Daniel. Congressman last October? I introduced my latest thinking on listening. And the title of my talk was change everything you know about communication. And I think if you practice. What I'm about to say, this will change your life. Forever. So this is I hope this is counterintuitive intuitively correct and you can do it. What I said to the Russian audience. And there's a video clip. If you go to Youtube, you'll find that there somewhere and I said to them. Now they're hearing me and Russian speaking in English they don't even Hear my voice, their hearing voice of. And I said to them. Because, there was a business audience managers and CEO's of organizations and companies. And I said. You're listening to me. I'm going to do this with you ck. We're GONNA do it in real time. Listening to me. And if I give you a bunch of bullet points, that's what I said to the Russian audience. and. You write down a few of the bullet points you might try them. You probably, forget Mosul. and. If I'm engaging good stories, you'll be entertain but you'll probably drop most of them and but if you're listening to me and I give you a bunch of bullet points. We'll have a nice transactional conversation And then I said. But if instead of that I focus on what you're listening for from me. Instead of focusing on, you're listening to me me going rat. Tat Tat. If I focus on what you're listening for. And I. Get it. Right. And I deliver on it. You'll give me everything. And I said. So imagine as I say to the rush audience. So let me see if I get it right and then I'm GonNa do this with you seek so you're gonNA love it i. said to the audience let me see if I get what you're listening for. Your. Managers and CEOS. First thing you're listening for is you'll think of something that can get you better measurable results. Because your performance is based on measurable results and you're listening for something that will get you better measurable results because if that happens, you get a raise. Is that true? And I said, and you also listening for something that will get you those results. It's less stressful. Than the way you're doing it now because the way you're doing now is stressful. Your stress to people are stressed. You're eating too much drinking too much. It's a mess. So you're listening for a way to get better results for stressful. Is that true to they da was thousand the islands. And then I said, here's the most important thing. Is You're listening for something that is immediately doable by you. Will you don't have to buy a book? I've even written a book on this. The there's no course because you don't even have the space in your head to take a course. And you're listening for something that is immediately doable. That will get you those better results. That's less stressful. And if I can deliver that. Today will have been worth all the time and money you spent. To come here. Is, not, true. How did you know that? But. Can you sense that CK that I was? I focused on what they were listening for. Absolute. So here's the example. If your viewers and listeners I'm to do this on Ck. So ck's asking me some really good responsible host like questions. You're only saying, can you answer this? Can you answer that and I'm answering some of them? He's tolerating. and. I think it's a pretty good conversation. and. So so focused on what you're listening to you give me a question I answer them. But this is what you're listening for and tell me if this is different. And it's GONNA be tough. 'cause you're an engineer I gotta pull you out of that left brain of yours I think what you're listening for. Is. Really important to you that you bring value to your listeners and viewers. Absolutely. It's a calling. And what you're listening for and looking for something that they can use immediately. That will make their lives better make them more successful maybe something that will get them better. Measurable results. That's less stressful something they can use immediately. You're also listening for. Whether you need to protect them from your guest. Because this is live. And you can have some experts long for an all kinds of books. But the real stiffs. They're boring and you're thinking to yourself. We're going live. Jeez. Read the person's book in the book is so much better than him or her. We gotta get through this alive cheese I feel like I have to apologize the my viewers say look at his book is much better than he was. So you're listening for also people that you. WanNa, protect your listeners viewers from because you don't want to waste their time. Absolutely. So that I get it right that's what you're listening for. Early and thank you so much for going a few layers deeper and for me one of my deepest commitment also is, yes, we're gonNA share with them actual tatics away to think about the problems or their lie. But really the underneath all of that is such that they can truly tap into their own purpose such that they can go on and make the difference than they WanNa make so I think for me what I loved. You also get that of from you is tap into that search that they get the energetic transmission, the mental models, the actual tactic by. Get how they can go out and quit the life that love. So thank you. We will here's a tip that I give people. There's a lot of entrepreneurs I don't know if you knew it know this fact and maybe you're listening to viewers will. Verify this. But a quarter of entrepreneurs. have significant psychological issues. At add. Bipolar. Thing when they feeling great, they feel on top of the world when they feeling down, they feel like. They're doing the they're being foolish maybe they should get a regular job. And about a quarter of entrepreneurs so I know this space. Are Prone to anxiety and depression. And they became entrepreneurs to treat their anxiety and depression. So in meaning when you're an entrepreneur and we belong to a community that. Your listeners viewers, you probably don't know about. And something I find funny but ironic? and. You've heard this there. Is the host of our community will say he has a British accent it's a this is a group of. Entrepreneurs and we're all on higher -able for all on. And everybody laughs. And it's true. But when you think that you're untouchable. And you couldn't work for anyone. And It's great the on adventure now. But wasn't so great when you were young right when you were young, it's like wh why can't you sit still? Different. What if that have to do with your homework? Where is this leading? And so you can understand that maybe it's higher than a quarter of entrepreneurs. When they were kids they a lot of people who will never be entrepreneurs. Would give them a hard time for. The. Teachers would say why do you have to be so rebellious by can't you still? And so you can understand how God bless all of you. If you suffered with that, you made it into your teens. That you found a way. To find your calling. Here's an exercise I'd give people I don't know that it will apply to. The people listening in. This is a great exercise. You can give your friends. I would like you to imagine that your personality is a circle. To Circle. An inside the circle. The parts of your personality that trying to prove show hide or please. poof something show something hide something. Please someone. So imagine that's in the circle. And I say to people. I'd like you now to take all of those. The Circle. What's. Left. and. A lot of people say nothing. My whole personality is proving showing hiding places. And I think a good exercise, maybe you want to do the block the breathing exercise when you do this. But if you can imagine eliminating the parts of your personality that are trying to prove show Hydra please. Because when you're doing that, you don't belong to you. You don't belong to you. You belong to someone else who you try to prove show hydroplanes some machinery Yup. And if you can eliminate that. And go for a long walk. You may discover a calling. That's been calling out to you. The Siren. You may discover something has been reaching out to you. Your purpose. But you couldn't hear it. Because you were so busy proving showing hiding a pleasing. I'm going to recommend a book which you've never heard of. Go ahead and even the person who wrote it doesn't promote. It's called ten, ten, ten by Suzy Welch Gencor. Ten. And she was married to Jack Welch who just died Jack Welch was the CEO of. G. In what she talks about in ten ten ten. Is she says that before you make decisions. Think about what's going to be the consequence, ten minutes, ten months and ten years from now. So she said when she was a single mom when she was a divorced mom. She thought if my company. Where I get paid needs to work this weekend. and. I was planning a birthday party for my kid. And I tell them the party's off. Ten minutes from now I'm going to get a temper tantrum. But ten months from now, I, might get a raise. So that's why it's important thing think about. The. Most important thing is she says, it's the ten years. and. So what happens is she says, you take a long walk. And think about the decisions you're making. And what the effects going be ten years from now. And that's when she shared. That's when I knew I needed to get a divorce. Because I realized I can't imagine being in this unhappy marriage ten years from now. So that might be another little exercise that you can do. Try to imagine yourself ten years from now. And Try to imagine a life that you look forward to. Every day. Late like I'm a lot older that I look and I'll tell you where I'm at is and I'm not sure that I thought about this ten years ago. But. If I'd ask myself the question ten years ago. We were not like to be ten years from now. I would say to myself I don't WanNa interact with anyone that I don't look forward to seeing. A love that. Virtually anyone I interact with I want to look forward to seeing. Because if I have to work around someone who's difficult someone who's a bullies someone who's a narcissist? I don't WanNa have to do that. And it's interesting if you go to linked in profile. You'll see that it says feary why Executive Coaching Theory Y executive coaching. And what theory? Why Executive coaching I coach people to be theory why leaders? And again, something. that. All of you a too young to know about. Is. Once upon a time, there was a fella named Douglas McGregor. And he wrote a book called the human side of enterprise. He was the pioneer of organizational development. Some people credit him would be in the very first one and the human side of enterprise came out nineteen sixty. And he talked about theory in theory why? And he said theory X is looking at people as if they're lazy. As if you've got gotta hit them with a stick. To keep them motivated. Because they're not going to want to give you a good day's work. Theory Y was no people aren't like that. You want to give them a carrot. You WanNa give them a chance to fully develop their potential in their skills and their amazing talents. And if you create a theory why organization that doesn't have fear As opportunity. And you make the most amazing opportunity. Those workers are going to reward you. With something that the Unicorn Right now. And, that UNICORN IS LOYALTY And so theory why coaching? And it's interesting. Because some years ago, companies would hire me. And they would say. We've got a big revenue. Maker. Or we've got some of those genius, but they're really difficult. We Rub each other they wrote they run over people are so arrogant and and we WANNA keep them because they make us a lot of money or they're genius, but we don't want a harassment suit. Collateral which we don't want collateral damage. So can you work with them? Inside work with them. and. It was interesting. I went to an evolution with them because I would see them and sometimes you know they'd be a arrogant because they knew they had the company over barrel. And I actually. was reasonably effective with them because Magin meeting someone who's really arrogant. And they resent having to do this because they make so much money whatever. or their boss told him to do it. They really don't want and you don't WanNa do it. So I would meet with them. And I would say I'd say this is GonNa? Work. They say what? I'd say Yeah I don't think there's GonNa work probably better find another coach. And I'd say this even the boss. So what do you mean? I said. I gotTa root for the person I'm. Coaching. Look forward to seeing them. Can't root for this person. Because they were jerk. It's I don't care how productive they are. That's your promise on my plan. I've given them every chance to be someone I could root for and failed. Everyone so I I don't think I can do it now sometimes that APP she turned out to be really interesting because. That would challenge the person. But what's happened is as time has gone by I don't even want to deal with these people in the world is coming towards me because what's happening? Is. Now, companies don't find me. CEOS entrepreneurs who recognize. that their interpersonal non technical skills were to holding them back. They find me. Yeah. We come to me and they say I'm pretty talented after two divorces. After, having a kid who was on drugs. I think, I'm an a hole. Which? You're speaking on your own. Self. They'd be saying to me these a my car. These are the clients who seek me out got right they. They say you know. I think they'll tell me I think I've outsmarted myself. I got lousy marriages. My kids have problems and. I'm smart, but maybe it's time to fix. So those people seek me out because they WANNA be theory Y leaders. Quite. So quick question there there is a higher self, right there is the I desire to change my life to be more compassionate, more empathetic person. So let me go after the request. Dr Mark Help in there is the the habitual self, the lower self ego excel the one that's arrogant and it took him decades. They have that muscle there. So when you work with Quote unquote difficult. These type of people who is trying to make a change at the same time, the habitual selves pulling them back how do you ensure that they? Are Living from their higher self. It's interesting I I make a distinction between guilt and shame. Shame is an incredible motivator. So guilt you do something. Wrong. You make amends. Shame is when you do something or fail to do something that's out of alignment with who you want to be. So shame is a like I'll give you an example, my personal life my kids are all grown. And as I've three kids and I was especially close to my middle child because my oldest child was close to mom. And I used to go to every practice. That my middle child would go to. And I try to be president because I. I could feel that connection. And at the time I was this therapist helping families enlisting empathic and all that. I need to practice what I preach. and. So there was one practice. That I blew off. I had something to do and I said I rationalize it's just the practice game. And my wife called me and she said. I wouldn't WanNa be in your shoes when you come home. I said why? And she said because our daughter. Kept looking at you to come in to the gymnasium. And you never came. She kept staring at the door and you never game and you told her you would. And my wife loved my wife and she's really tough and she says that the way it is she says, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes. When you go see are you come home? So I do a lot of dads did I went to some toy store and butter bribe? So. I come home. There's my daughter. And she was about seven. I go into a room. And I looked at her. And I said. I. told her I would come to your practice and I didn't come. I didn't tell you the truth. And she's looking at me picture seven year old. We'll see this when you have kids she's GonNa S. She's fighting tears. A. And I could just see the love and disappointment interface A. and. I looked at her I said look at me. and She just cry this. And I said his what I'm GONNA do. I'm never going to tell you I promised to do anything. Because I want you to believe that a promise from Your Dad you can count on. A. You can count on one hundred and fifty percent. So I'm never going to promise you things. What I will say at anything is I'll say I'll try and have a good track record. But I want you to. Realize that a promise from Your Dad, you can count on. I'm sorry. And I gave her the little doll. She's still wouldn't let me off the hook. And then the next morning she goes to school and go into her. Bedroom, there is the doll in the trash can. So what I'm saying is now some people listening to this will say, why did you have him on up but that shame I felt That I disappointed someone who loved me so deeply so trusted me. And I'll tell you if you ever have kids. Want to do is you want to immerse them when they're young in something called Basic Trust. There was a psychologist named Eric Erikson and he talked about the stages of psychosocial development. And at the lowest level of our psychosocial development is either basic trust or basic mistrust. and. Look parents aren't perfect. But when you have basic trust in you walk in the world. It's a different view though when you have basic mistrust. When you have basic trust like Jennifer. Has. You go where you're looking. At basic mistrust like the other entrepreneurs in that room. You look where you're going meaning. You're cautious. Yeah. You'll worry is psychological safety is I think it's important that we bathe our kids in basic trust when they're young. because. There's a famous quote. It's not that famous from Albert Einstein and I'm messing it up but he said something like the most important decision you will ever make in life is whether the world is safe or dangerous. So beautiful. Let me actually pause on that Segue to something that you've done for over twenty five years as a suicide interventionalist moments like that. The steak I would say is the highest 'cause you literally. Intentional in trying to say someone's life if you fail as a psychologist. Specialists than they could take a life and then you being successful without losing any kind of life. I'm curious. No your point of view. How do you when someone had? are going through that dark night of the soul with a law. Hope are all humanity of themselves the environment just the point of living right all of that God they don't have anything to stand on how do you? Persuade them coach them in. Re contextualised such that they have that basic safety. Basic. Psychological safety choose to stay alive. So, after Anthony, boarding killed himself. I wrote a blog, you can find it lie people kill themselves. It's not depression. So it got it got five hundred thousand views in a a week because the. Strange title. And when I talked about is this hundreds of millions of people that are depressed who don't kill themselves. Hundreds of millions of people lose jobs, lose marriages, they don't kill themselves. It may contribute to it. But as a suicide prevention expert. One of the things I've observed that almost all of them have in common when they kill themselves. Is. They have despair. And if you break the word despair into D. S.. P. A. R.. It means deaths pair on paired. Hope less. Without a future. Power less without the power to get yourself out of it. Help less worth less use less meaningless purposeless. And when they all line up. The, last one is pointless. And you pair with death to take the pain away. Isa. Pass to take the pain away he said what I learned to do and I was so fortunate. Is after I trained. In Psychiatry. I didn't go work for an institution. I was going to but then it was a fellowship in fell through. So I said, let me just. Put Out. My shingle and one of my mentors was the pioneer in the field of suicide prevention. So he referring me suicidal patients. and. So I was fortunate because I worked in an institution. I would have to hold my clipboard between them in me. And I'd say, how's your sleep? How's your medicine have? You had any of those suicidal thoughts? But because I'd have to report it to someone. And but what I started to realize I started to look into their eyes. And what their eyes were telling me. Is You're checking boxes. And I'm running out of time. So I had a choice. Stop checking the boxes. And See. What I was seeing in their eyes. And dive in. So my view. Of this despair? It's like an abscess. A wound mental room in the dark night of the soul. And if you know anything about wounds. You need to go in. You clean it out. And you don't so up the wound. Few. So it up. It may get reinfected may get something. But you do is you go in and you clean it out you leave a drain in. And heals from the inside out, we call that granulation. So what I learned to do was go into the dark night of the soul. And just stay with them there. Didn't throw treatments to advice them because. Many of these were multiple tempters. And I would just find a way to listen into their eyes. And I would. Go into the dark night of the soul. And I'D KEEP THEM COMPANY THERE And when they've felt by me. which is different than feeling understood is nice. It's better than feeling misunderstood. When you feel felt. When you feel that your pain is worth someone getting there right next to you. So you're not alone in it. People start to cry. Cry With relief. And now if you're just learning how to do this. And I have a new book coming out called wide. Cope when you can heal. Healthcare. Heroes of covid nineteen can recover from PTSD. Coming out in the next couple of months and we introduce. Something called surgical empathy. And surgical empathy is literally going into. We're at firts most in the dark night of the soul. And not rushing them with a technique. So with the multiple suicide attempts tonight seen. They'd already. Had All. The techniques. And again. If you're depressed or suicidal. And I'm not currently in practice I'm retarded although I'm teaching. Counselors teaching parents Was the CO creator and moderator of a Multi Award. Honored documentary called stay alive intimate conversation about suicide prevention where I speak to Kevin Hines. He's the fellow jumped off the Golden. Gate Bridge and survived. And you can get it for free stay alive video dot com. into the whole idea is that when you can listen in? To the dark night of the soul and people feel felt by you they start to cry and as they start to cry with relief. They start to calm down. Now for you techies. I'll give you a neuro scientific explanation for that. When people are really stressed. Or distressed. Something in your brain called your Patou Itary sends a signal to your adrenal glands and your adrenal glands push out cortisol. And High Cortisol is basically a signal to your physical body. Let's get ready to deal with this stress. And that high cortisol then goes back and triggers a part of your brain called DRA middle. And the delay is in your emotional brain. And what happens is it sends a signal to your amid della. Let's redirect the blood away from thinking to surviving. So, blood preferentially goes away from your thinking upper human brain to your survival lower brain. Because in our primitive thing, we needed that lower brain because we had to get the heck out of there we had to run. We had to fight flea fight a freeze. And what's interesting. Is what counteracts high cortisol is high oxytocin. oxytocin is the bonding hormone. And it's what enables. Young mothers. To bond with their screaming babies. Screaming babies stressing the mouth is sleep deprived, but there is so much oxytocin going on that they're bonding. To that baby and they don't get angry they get tired. And so when you cause someone to feel felt. They get a surge of oxytocin. The oxytocin counteracts the cortisol goes down the amid. Dila. Goes down. Blood flow goes back up into your upper brain you can start to think again. Right having whoever's undergoing some distress have experienced love. Through you. Do we agendas listening through your generous space holding that they feel love and felt. And heard. It was interesting. I just wrote a blog put one up because. I've had thirty forty years of doing this. And now people are going to hear this. They're going to say that's crazy. You have to what I'm telling you is out of context meaning. I'm just telling you the the breakthrough so I was seeing someone. And I was feeling his pain. And I said to him. After a long conversation. I said. Why haven't you done it? He said, why haven't I done what? I said killed yourself. You said what? I said Yeah why haven't you killed yourself because I just felt a little bit of your pain. Just the tip of the iceberg. And if I felt all of your pain. I'm. Not sure. Survive. You're stronger than me. I'm not sure I would have survived because I'm just feeling a little bit of how horrible the things are that you'd live through. and. Shoot you. And I was dealing with someone who had been suicidal but the imagine you having a conversation with something like this. And I said so. I don't think. I. Would have survived it so. I'm wondering why you haven't killed yourself. And he looked at me and he said. 'CAUSE I. Only. He said he said so you don't think I'm weak arm. Crazy. Stronger than me. Crazy I don't think. So I'm just getting a little taste of the pain you've been through. It's intolerable. So I don't think you're crazy wanting away out and you're not weaker stronger than me. And some validating because he's feeling all the shame week and I'm crazy. So I look at him and I said so why haven't you killed yourself? and. Then he said, let me get this straight. You don't think I'm weak grown crazy. I said I'm not going to repeat it too many times. You're stronger than me and I don't think you're crazy 'cause the pain was awful. And I said why haven't you done it? And then he smiled he said because I was waiting to meet you. I said what? He said I was wanting to meet someone like you. Who could tell me I wasn't week a crazy. For wanting to get away from the pain. I said you're not we? Crazy. and. He says you sure about that. I said. Don't push me I said wait a minute. And I took out a prescription pet. Our prescribe something for you. Write it down I, give it to. Read it. And he reads prescription and it says you are not weaker crazy. I said read that every time you feeling suicidal. Okay. I love that in a single sentence, you reframe his perspective of himself from weakened crazy too sane in strong. I love that. And then he looked at him because he's crying through the whole thing. He's just signed a cry because he's being validated. He felt. And then at the end of it, he smiling because he felt plus alone he fell valid. And they looked at me and he said Doc. Doc you're crazy. and. I looked at him I smile said. NO ARGUMENT THERE? I love that. Thank you for sharing that story. One of my epiphanies Jeremy's is man is challenging enough to go through life as a individual. For, someone like you who are healers? Only, you live your own life, but you also take on other people's. Burden as well emotional burden and otherwise I'm curious to know. How are you able to insulate yourself because you overflowing with love, right that's you are anyone who spent any more than five minutes actually feel is how much you love human beings. And I want that but would you say you will born with this incredible capacity for love that you're able to whole other people's suffering or was it cultivated over time what what's your response to my? There's usually a back story to these things. I. Got to tell you the back story and then you'll say that explains. When I was in medical school I dropped out of medical school twice. UNTREATED, depression. So the first time I dropped out. And I was highlighting every book because I could read stuff but I couldn't hold onto it. And I took a leave of absence. And my brain and I worked in blue collar jobs in my brain came back I went back after year. and. Then within another semester came back again. And so I met with the Dean of the school who's about fundraising. And you lose money when someone drops out. Tuition doesn't pay for that empty seat. So that would dean of the school who's about fundraising. And I don't even remember the meeting. But. He may have saved my life because he referred me the dean of students who cares about people. And I get a call from the dean of students. And he said Mark I have this letter from the dean of the school. I think you should come in here we should have a call talk. And I was down. And I had a mindset that said. If you can't do anything you're not worth anything. You don't deserve to be here if you can't do anything. Passing everything, but it was a low point. So I go in there. And he says here, read the letter. I, read the letter. In the letters from the dean of the school and it says I met with Mr Wilson. We talked about a different career and I'm advising the promotions committee that he'd be asked to withdraw. What that means is they really couldn't kick me out because I was somehow passing my courses. So they couldn't kick me out. But they wanted to get me out because I was a lost cause. And so I looked at the dean of students and I. So what does this mean? And he said you've been kicked up. And I'm not a religious person, but maybe I'm spiritual big because. It was like a gunshot wound when he said that I. And I felt something wet. My cheek bones I thought I was bleeding. I just kept looking like this. It was tears. And I'll tell you I wasn't miracle because if he had said. If I can help you you call. I don't think I would have called them. I think would have gone back to my apartment and I'm not sure if I'd still be her. But. He didn't say that. So imagine you're there and you feel useless and worthless because you can't do anything. And what he said instead was mark. You didn't screw up because you're passing everything miraculously, but you are screwed up. But if you got unscrewed up. I think this school would be glad they gave you a second chance. I'm thinking what? Who's he talking to? Because I'm useless worthless. And then he said. Imagine hearing this. He said. And even if you don't get unscrewed up, even if you don't become a doctor, even if you don't do anything the rest of your life, I'd be proud to know you. Because you have a streak of goodness in you that we don't grade in medical school. And you have no idea how much the world needs that goodness. And you're not gonNA know it till you're thirty five, but you have to make it to your thirty five. So I am just crying he is pummeling me with compassion. and. Then he says, and I couldn't even look at them having trouble looking at you. And he points at me says, look at me. And he points many says. Do deserve to be on this planet and you're and you're gonNA. Let me help you. And so he arranged appeal and I had duke make my case and. I guess they saw something in me. These doctors saw something in me. But flip the. Spirou I was useless and worthless. But he reached in. And didn't let go plus he stood up for me. You stood up against the school for me. It was a PhD and this promotions committee were all medical doctors. He took them all on. To. Say I think we should give this. Guy, another chance. Flip the switch and me but essentially Maybe, that connects the dots ck because that's what I basically done is a suicide specialist as I go in. I see some value in them and I say you're not going anywhere. Thank you for sharing that powerful story. You that Dean did the same thing you did for. The person who wanted to die who things. Worthless in a single conversation. Re Help you re frame your whole life he saw streak of good dancing you. In his way you're doing what you do and you do so well. I don't see you stopping I reforms. We have another twenty bucks in you I I I would probably assert. And we'll tell you listen. Here's one of the difficulties I have because I do these shows. Listener of you're will say. You. Could reach my son or daughter. And I'm. Not and I'm retired. And also. What I tell people. So I do I co present to e Oh and we're hoping to do into why Peo- A friend of mine's fourteen year old son killed himself two years ago. And Jason Read, and if you look up Jason read goal cast, he did a presentation to fifteen. Male entrepreneurs about how he blew it with his fourteen year old son. So we've been doing presentations where he tells the story and I talk about something, you can try what you're getting. and. But it's still difficult for me because I say look. I might be able to reach your kid empathic. I'm getting pretty old. But if I reach them. How can I reach them? And then I can't continue to see them the stage of my life. I can't continue to see them I'm retired status, and so I'll help you as a parent. Hope, you these are some of the things you might say. But. But it's painful. It's painful because it's it's tough to walk away and say I might have been able to help that person. Yeah. You can only do what you can do and I'd much rather. So people listening in. And they find any of what we're talking about relevant. On, this been suicides in your high schools colleges, I'd be happy to do zoom, call what I've discovered about preventing suicide and how to get through to people. You can reach out to me and as time permits the other problems I have so many things I'm working on I don't know that I have even time to breathe, but but saving lives is. Talk about purpose. Yeah. How would you articulate yours? Is a story that I share. Ends a story about Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln was going from one town to another town. Any passed a horse that was stuck in a ditch. And he drove by about half a mile and then he drove all the way back to the horse. And the people in his group when they got back to they said, why'd you do that? And Abraham Lincoln said I couldn't get the pain of the horse out of my head. So that's what happens to me is I can't get. The pain of the world out of my head. And I believe I was born to try to lessen the pain is fear hurt anger and. But what I WANNA do is in people want to help with this I would love to start building a platform and. In fact I think I'm going to be doing something and if you haven't heard of this I, hope you'll check it out. See K there's something called tether dot men. And it's a group. It's a peer to peer support group for men. Who are dealing with a lot of these things And I'm getting to know the founders real well. And what happened is they? They went on a retreat, a men's retreat. And they personally had breakthroughs breakthroughs that alleviated some really dark thoughts. So they're doing their best to bring it online in a digital community to create a community of peer to peer support for men. Now, women might say what about US women can use their language? Women. are able to use their words feel and if you don't try and problem solve them if you're a guy which most guys do women are expressing themselves because they wanna feel felt and they wanna feel because they wanna feel oxytocin because of they feel oxytocin. Their Cortisol is to go down. But if when they share with you their feelings that they just want to have listened to. And you give them advice solutions they don't want. You going to increase their cortisol. Because what they're really wanting is the oxytocin. They want to feel felt because when they're oxytocin goes up unfortunately doing that scares the heck out of most men. But when they're oxytocin goes up. Without you making it by giving them advice feet along. Their Cortisol goes down they come down they cry they feel better. Beautiful thank you so much for sharing that at think for anyone listening anyone have ever being a relationship before. especially, the men a lesson to these very poignant advice it would do you and your relationship. Really good. I WANNA switch topic a little bit about amplifying your purpose multiplying impact. You could make I'm curious to know. Your opinion about the use of psychedelics Ketamine Iowa Ska suicide assignment. Chew allow people to penetrate. Food, the perception through the EGO. Ride the personalities to the core of who they are just a little bit more direct. Kirschner. Your thoughts on that. It's interesting. I do a visualization with people. Good to my wakeup call podcast. I've done it with a number of my guest. But if you look up Colonel Chris Kolenda Ko L. E. N. D., I did on the podcast with him it's audio and what I do, and I've done this with a number of people. Then maybe we'll do this to another interview with you. Is I'll have people go back to an awful time in their life. And I'll have them go back as an adult. And meet that person who was traumatized. And then we facilitate a conversation with that person who is traumatize feels felt and safe. By you. This older adult. And you don't tell that younger part of you. That your them. What you do is you dive into something where they feel felt by you. They start to express their fear their horror, their terror. And then what happens is you reveal to them because they're going to feel better that younger part of you. And? They're gonNA think. So you're going to leave aren't you and that's when you tell them. I'm never leaving you. Because I'm you. And you made it through this. And you're going to have a good life. It's going to be some bumps in the road. And then at the end of it, I have. In the visualization, the adult you hug that younger you imagine your DNA fusing together. I. Share that. Because I think what happened with psychedelics in Iowa and whatnot? Kind, of thing where those allow you to let go of control. Most of the people were drawn to psychedelics in Iowa. TEND TO BE CONTROL FREAKS and And they do not know how to let go of control. That's pretty good. That's what happens is when you take drugs, you're no longer under control you've lost it, but that's why you need someone. Facilitator or Shaman to reassure you because you'll feel like I think I'm going crazy. This is a nightmare I'm thinking I'm ever going to come back and because they're so experience and basically what's happening Is it's not getting pasture ego. It's the your brain and mind our misaligned. Think of. Let's say we start out in life. Basic. Trust, and we start out and we're a perfect Rubik's cube. Just, perfect. Every side is perfect. But then because of life in being. Abused being criticized. Being. ignored. That Rubik's cube starts to twist and twist. And it's not so clean anymore who keeps getting twisted and twisted. But then what happens and this is especially true for entrepreneurs. Is. You can't get it back to that special shape. But But you discover something called an adrenaline rush. So when you're under stress, your cortisol nominally goes up your adrenaline goes up. Fighter flight and Adrenalin makes you feel super. Human. You'll powerful. But. Then what happens? And and in my book why Cope when you can heal we talk about the adrenaline rush being a case of fools bold. Not Fool's gold fools bold meaning that when you're under. The influence of an adrenaline rush she feel super powerful if all you can do anything. You can stay up for days in a row in a horrendous hospital seeing deaf all around you and you don't know how you doing it because you running on adrenaline. But the one, the danger goes away. And the thing that spurring the adrenaline rush goes away and the adrenaline goes away. The crash causes you to start to fall apart. So a lot of entrepreneurs are always pedal to the metal because they want to keep the adrenaline high. Addicted to that high. Yeah and another reason they're addicted to the adrenaline highs because adrenaline is similar to adderall high adrenaline equals equal similar to adderall and if you have eighty when you're an adrenaline rush, you can stay really focus. That's why a lot of extreme athletes had add has children but boy when they developed a skill as an extreme sport. Just focused but what happens is when the adrenaline rush goes away? Your mind starts to unravel. There's actually a documentary called the up goal by Michael Phelps talks about the suicidal tendencies of these Olympians so exactly to appoint. It's interesting. You bring that up. If you're listening to this, you can catch weight of gold. On Hbo Max you can see panel. With Michael Phelps and the Director Brett Rockin and they talk about making the movie and Michael. Phelps and the other athletes said they had add when they were kids. So imagine a add they're just frustrating everyone and then they suddenly a superpower. And I, and if you go to my wakeup call I, interviewed Brett Rockin the director. So you go to my wakeup call you'll see that interview. and not to leave it alone, I may be part of a series. Called the mediator. With a fella named Sean. Collins Sin. And we did an episode called. All that glitters isn't gold it's video. and. So I talk about. What's that like when you have the appeal of the gold medal? And it turns out you go from this frustrated and frustrating child but won't sit still to suddenly you have the superpower. And I don't really have the superpower. Coaches love it because you're GonNa make them famous and sometimes your parents love it because you gonNa make them famous. and. Then you give up everything in life to become this amazing athlete. And sometimes, you don't even get the gold medal but even Michael Phelps enough many gold medals. But then what happens? Is. It goes away. The adrenaline rush goes away. You realize I sacrificed my entire life to be the superhuman athlete. My coaches are not that interested in me because they're interested in the younger athletes. So what they deal with is I sacrificed everything to become this superhuman. An amateur athletes make almost no money. You think running money. They make almost nothing. But everyone thinks it's so glorious to go to the Olympics. And then I think what they're dealing with which wasn't didn't happen in in the film but I've seen this with Olympic athletes have seen this with a celebrities I've seen this with rockstars. One of the most difficult things they have to deal with. which can lead to being suicidal. That's what they talk about on the film. is they feel foolish for having sacrificed everything. And they feel used. By the coaches. They feel used by the Olympic Committee. and. So when you have a combination of what I've sacrificed. And now the glory is over I didn't even make money from it. And all these people that I thought love me were actually using me because it made them a star. Can you see how that can lead to? Pretty self destructive thoughts. So that might be an interesting evening if you can catch the weight of gold. Listen to the Brett Rabkin interview my wakeup call and then catch our video. I think it's called. All that glitters isn't gold. Thank you for that. I WANNA bring it to the listeners here now. People are listening you may not be in Libyan or professional athlete. Or Not even an entrepreneur. These are human journeys that we all go through especially covert as an example this is a hard reset for perhaps the fundamental identity that you have Iran yourself around your business about who you are apparent about who you are as an entrepreneur, whatever, that may be some curious to know from your perspective mark. What could they do as a way to re establish? Their identity as being wiped out similar to the Olympians per se them the going through this dark at the soul, the trough of disillusionment whatever named the crises that what I'm you give it. What actionable tactics could they take on to reinvent their identity such that they come out even stronger. So this is a blessing, not a curse. There's a there's an acronym because I come up with these little abbreviations for people to remember. And it's called. M. A.. P.. M. A, Pr. I wish I could probably come up with another one. But what it stands for is every day. If, you can do a meaningful activity that serves a purpose. It will give you a reason to get out of bed. If you can come up with a meaningful activity. That serves a purpose. It will give you a reason to get out of bed. It'll give you a reason to live. So. Here's an example. One of the things I used to do also I have a fedex talk called. What made you smile today And you can check it out and I think it's I. Think it's a pretty good talk but given the Cova thing because I started a mission call. What made you smile today And the talk basically. Talks about this was the mission and I may return to it. Is the talk is I speak about a friend of mine who had a drug addict daughter? and. He didn't WanNa call her because she was always manipulating making excuses but he felt a making her worse. But I hate to speak to a critise always manipulating. So. Instead, he started texting her every day and he said What made you small? And at first she started talking about, Oh, I thought you'd give me money. He said, we've done the money thing no money and he just kept doing it every day five pm. And after about six weeks. He gets text back from her. And she says Okay Dad. If you must know what made me smile today was knowing that you would text me. That's right. He started to cry. And that turned a corner. Started cry because he realized. We started to enjoy each other and it wasn't about being manipulated. And a couple of months later, she was off drugs because she felt like she was burden and the plane is as long as she was a liar, she was burden. and. So she turned that around and what I did after hearing that. And it's a little challenging with people wearing masks. But what I did, and let me see if we have any here. I have a thousand of these risk bands. And it says Hashtag Wm Y. S. T. which dance. What made you smile today Hashtag, WNYC T.. And if you go to Instagram, we have Hashtag WNYC. And what I started doing is whenever I would. See someone who served me. Chino waiter a waitress TSA. I go up to them. I'd see their name tag. And I'd say. Hey. Joan. Thank you. So. I. Thank You I thank them for serving me. John Thank you. My Name's mark. I have a question for you. Look like this. I said no, you're not in trouble. John what made you smile today. They pause. They think and then they look and they have a huge smile. My kids my dog it's a new day the sun. and. Then I say you have a great smile and then I would give them to risk vans. and. I'd say you have a great smile here is one to remember to use it every day. And give the other one to someone else pay for. Love that and and actually if you look the nowhere man nowhere men were two men and a start up in Manhattan. And if you look up nowhere man the science of smiling. For a week they took the what made you smile today challenge and it's a great segment and video and they go around to shopkeepers and they were really nervous. They talked about cheesy. I'm nervous. I'm here in New York, but it seems to whatever and they did it for a week and if you watch it, change their life. Shopkeepers and a shopkeeper comes out and starts dancing with them. and. There's one there's this really just cute short. Hispanic. Fellow, who's shy and they said, what made you smile today and he smiles like the you've amy smile today. and. So the point is that was going to be an I. May we may revive it that was going to be a mission? As I said, it's a little challenging because people wearing masks. But it's an example of. What to do? Here's something else you can do it again, you might feel uncomfortable with. I always carry a box of snacks with me. We'll snacks peanuts. And I go over to homeless people. And sometimes, you're frayed to give homeless people money because you're afraid they're gonNA use it on drugs or alcohol. and. I'll go up to them. And I, try not to scare them. And I'll say, Hey, there. My Name's mark. What's your name? They do have names, homeless people they talk they have names. And they'll look now I won't see what made you smile today because that would be. It'd be. Insensitive But I'll give the MOSTAQUE. Now, some of the May not take it. It's better than giving them money and worrying Ed. Just going to buy alcohol or drugs I'd say, Joe It's good to meet you. Here's a little snack. I hope it helps. You take care of yourself. And see what happens when you do this. And people, light up. And you made someone else happier for a moment. And you didn't get anything from it in your bank account. It actually helps you to feel worthwhile. it helps you to feel brought a little sunshine into the world. And I'll tell you. It takes very little. One of the other things I think I, talk about the tax talk. Is I get emails from all around the world. And a little bit disorganized. So Sometimes I. Just get too many. But I got one from a young man named a rule in India. And he asked me something and I had a moment gave a little advice. And we're not talking we're just typing. And I said rule ever question view. got. Nervous said rule. What made you smile today. And he wrote back. He said Nolan as famous as you has ever typed my name. and. So every day I. Go to the computer. And I type what you typed. Type Your name I type touch, your name I touch finer. I'll tell you really got to me and I thought. Wow. was. So little. That could have changed the rules life. They can. So mark, I WANNA be super respectful of your time. Our time has come to an antibiotic I could talk to you ve hours I want to acknowledge you in a few words analogy for religion showing up for doing the work for following your purpose for. Sharing. So generously, what it takes to live a purposeful life, he shared with US actionable tactics of doing one thing that serves your purpose every day doing this Tinley and doing it in in in the simplest way possible as if you're sharing your candlelight with others human beings. In for anyone that's listening please. Our show links with you. So they definitely, I'm in the Middle Reading your book listening right now and I wanted to just little bit testimonial. So mark what's remarkable about mark's work is not just a here's some clinical data some things behind it in everything that he share, he gives you mental models actionable tactics such that you can go out in cultivate your empathy, your own compassion, your ability to communicate better with people that you care about your life. So thank you so much for demonstrating that embodying that you're in. Thank you mark. Look you brought it out on me. We we did together, ck. So thank you and thank you to your listeners. And I hope you'll check out my wakeup call and you're GONNA my site to mark. Golson DOT, com where You'll find if you like any of what we talked about you find more.

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Ep165 - Diametric Daiquiri

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Ep165 - Diametric Daiquiri

"You're listening to happy out of conversation. Racially happy hour. FIA Stanley joined by my fellow conversational gist. Colleges guys, I'm canoe you, and as you can tell is not here and what Emil is not. Here we have our own way of running the board, so that's exactly how we're going to run the show today. We're going to run it a little bit out of order, and we're going to figure out what we're talking about. So a lot of people have still been talking about the judge Cavanaugh confirmation hearings. And the new allegations are now up to five. And then also to a lot of people have been talking about the sentencing of Bill Cosby. And then on a lighter note, a lot of people have been really inspired by Will Smith. So I think what we will start off with today is Bill Cosby specifically, Bill Cosby with sentenced to three to five years for aggravated sexual assault and drugging of a woman. Her name is Andrea Constand on. And the reason we are talking about this, it's specifically after this sentencing, there were chew diametrically opposed a reactions. One of which was excited from a lot of people at the fact that a sexual predator on has been brought appropriately to Justice and we'll be actually going to jail. Then there were several other people who were saying things like he was set up. This is not fair because there are. Several white male rapists who are not in jail in some iteration as it related to being set up based on the fact that Bill Cosby is black, and that there are other alleged and convicted rapists who are not in jail and by rapists. I mean, celebrity rapist who are not in jail, so we definitely felt like it was extremely important for us to have the conversation and to kind of dissect the chew narratives and give you all are two cents on how we feel. So how were you feeling Millea? I don't wanna be some people's friend anymore. I just don't. I don't wanna be friend bay. This this case in this verdict is bringing out the nastiness or just another side of people that I don't. I don't necessarily like the fact that we every time there is an argument or discussion around a black male figure who people look up. Two. It always comes down to me feeling like we so desperate. I keep saying if we so desperate for black heroes that we will in the Cape for a man who in his own deposition said that he bought drugs to give to women to have sex with. And I gave this example on somebody's face with post. He gave that deposition, right? That's like somebody buying a knife. Stabbing somebody telling us they bought the knife to stab somebody in. We sit up around here in acting debate. If he actually stabbed somebody, he said what he did. So this whole idea that people. Are justifying his actions because I, like you said, severe because all they trying to bring the black man down or white people outside who who, who's not getting in trouble. What about Harvey Weinstein? Any just to point that out. Harvey just got popped this past year and a half little bit on the chopping block since back in the day. So it took a long time for this to come to fruition. So why think it's gonna take two weeks to get Harvey Weinstein locked up. Like I just I'm just, I just don't like where this is going, and if feels like. People are saying, well, one we know people hate women. We know some people said, some people hate men, but it's just a fortunate to feel like people are saying pretty much Bill Cosby should be able to write people because I liked him on on the Cosby show. And I think unfortunately for a lot of people that is actually what it is. I think that people can't can't divorce themselves from a person and a character. Right. And we've talked about this before and I can't give you permission to do shit, but I'm gonna give you permission. You can like the Cosby show is actually still continue to watch the Cosby show and still recognize the Bill. Cosby is a convicted rapist right? Number one number two, that he out of his own mental per what you just said. Admitted to buying drugs with the intentions of drugging women and sleeping with them. Yes, and I'm going to be a legal eagle just for the sake of this conversation? Yes, there is the caveat that technically you have to have the conversation of whether or not there was concentre not right. So you can arguably by drugs with the intention of giving him to women who consensually took the drug so then have sex with you. Right. And then there's the difference between buying drugs putting them in someone's drink without their consent, and then raping them right now, Bill Cosby has been convicted of the ladder. So there is no consent argument anymore. He has been convicted number one number two also to we're not talking about one woman the cases, one woman, but there are several allegations. And when you kind of do an audit of people who knew him, everyone knew he was doing this. And so I ran a cly. He had previously been privy to the same privilege as some of these other men we've been talking about. Now, this is where I want to kind of go with this. And I'm specifically talking to black people. We need to be very careful if we want people to listen to us because in other issues as pertains to race, we are the moral compass, then we need to make sure that our moral compass is pointed in the right direction. Meaning if a black person does something wrong, we need to say that they did something wrong period even if and this is where it gets tricky. It is possible that he is in fact a rapist and they set up, right, but then setting them up does not negate the fact that he's a rapist. They can't say you, right. You shouldn't have been raping literally. And so I think that it goes to the larger issue also too, and I can't remember who it is, but someone online than I follow mentioned something kind of who is it that we're protecting because I'm going to go a step further and this is gonna be uncomfortable. Is it that rape is such a. Normal part of our of our society. And I mean, are larger Americans Zayed's and within the contract of the black community that it is such a normal thing and not only that rape is a normal thing, and I and I, and I mean this with no disrespect that is so normal for people to be raped by people that they love. Yes, yes, it is so emotionally raw for us that it would be easier for us to Cape for Bill Cosby and say, he is not a rapist because if we have to admit to ourselves that Bill Cosby, our TV father that we grew up loving is symbolic of so many other men in our lives that we have loved that have potentially violated us. That's exactly the conversation. That's one of them. That least to the point where if you look at Bill Cosby and a man, you do not know. And you're willing to go to bed to say or to to base to basically shutdown someone who says he violated me, then you also have to look at what it must feel like to have someone say, my uncle or my cousin or my brother did this to me in the reaction of family members in that case. Because again, this ain't when you really wanna talk, if you really wanna talk about this isn't a celebrity problem. This is a, this is a family problem, and people look at Bill Cosby, like he's a part of their family. So the protect level of protection, willing to give him the same level protection that they'll give to someone in their family happens every day. Why ambler fans is not if this isn't. This isn't a racing when it comes to that saying with with priests, everybody on the Catholic situation into somebody was saying, why is it that people are so willing to protect Catholic priests? And then I commented on another. Post and said the same reason people so willing to protect someone's dad, uncle or cousin from doing something to a child in the family. It's hard to admit, like you said, when someone close to you that you are look up to if capable of doing something, so egregious so evil, it's hard, but my homegirl GIO been posting on people Facebook pose all day in all caps. He is not show real dad. He is not show real like I just now I know. I know I completely agree. And I also would also challenge people that if you have in any way. Articulated that you are in favor of either the metoo movement. Our time's up, we're guarding people that you did not have a connection with. So a Harvey Weinstein because you don't really care who he is or a Stanley Kubrick from way back in the day, but you don't really watch any of his movies or that if it really is an issue of race that you, you're like, lock them up when they when they looked one way and your and you and you think that they got set up when they look another ORF, it's connected to your connected. Then I think that we do ourselves a disservice because arguably specifically when it pertains to raise a lot of times, the other side is not able to connect because they're not able to identify. So at the end of the day, if we can't be a nation wear, it's very clear if you violate women, you should go to jail. I don't care if I know you you. You're related to me if you're on TV if you're not on TV in order to have people listen to us. As it pertains to other moral issues. Even when it's uncomfortable, we have to say wrong is wrong. And real quick reasom comments from people joining us in the livestream behind Kamerhe hearing him. But Mr. Cosby through our African American family under the bus repeatedly in public years ago, he was already in the doghouse with the disrespect. He showed us in public if I don't know what she's referring to. He went on this pound cake speech where he was saying our issues are we don't pull are. We need to pull our pants up and in disrespecting single black mothers and and and Jabe onyx Ebonics. He was going on this whole diatribe. So at one point, the conversation surrounding Bill, I remember a couple of people throwing this out there, protecting the man who don't even fuck which all he'll even like, Jim wouldn't even let you. And ironically Kamar brought up an excellent point and the sad reality. Do you know who it immediately reminds me of o. j. Simpson. Also, but, but it's but it's relevant. It's relevant win to your point that we opened up the conversation are we so desperate for black heroes that we are willing to put up with bullshit and on some we can't do that. We have to evolve our conversation. Our narrative has to evolve at the end of the day. Then we'll stay there. Okay. If if our, if our hero is a pretend TV dad that had a perfect life on TV, but in real life, arguably not only has he been convicted of raping one person, but there there are allegations of at least fifty plus women and not only did he rape them, he drugged them. So to me, that's another sexual deviant see it right that we would prefer to live in in fantasy world and deal with reality right and argue, it's the same thing with OJ that because he made commercials any movies and on TV and on the field. He looked perfect, but in his real life. Regardless of whether or not you think he killed his wife facts, are he beat the out of his wife, an an on record, didn't want anything to do with black people. But yet at the end of the day, we still Cape for him to me, I think we need to leave that type of non critical thinking non evolved on. Analysis in the last century. I feel like we're, we're as black people. I think that we are now in a different space because to me, that's coming from like a scarcity perspective. And now I think we need to be from an abundance excellence perspective and to me that that narrative in that mindset of supporting either an OJ or a Bill Cosby simply because they're black, that is not excellent. And that does not serve us. If you are still buzzing about our conversation, make sure to jump online and chop it up with us at happy hour, underscore TV. And if you've ever wondered if I roll my eyes when I talk or have you ever wondered how beautiful Camelias smile is and make sure you jump online at WWW dot, patriots dot com. Backslash, happy hour, underscore TV, and you can find a way to watch us as you listen to us. Big willy Will Smith had a birthday fifty years old. If you grew up a Will Smith, it doesn't seem like he's fifty at all because my first Bel Air came out, we really thought he was our age, whether you were eight, nine, ten or thirty five. He was just relatable in that sense, but he had his fiftieth birthday celebration and he chose to bungee jump over the Grand Canyon. It was a whole event. He strained alive to his YouTube channel. And if you don't know, we'll Smith just joint social media. Maybe this year. He's only been all six twenty eighteen and he already has the best though show media of any celebrity or person ever agreed he has. Now, my homeboy said this and I've been leading with this did Wendy will Smith's birthday become a national holiday because I've never seen so many posts from strangers, celebs politicians, anybody celebrating something. His birthday as much as him. But anyway, are we sided about Wilson with what do we think. Was he doing mostly bungee jumping, or I mean, would he overdo it because when he after it was having, I was like, okay, you know. You know people down time with it. I think it's actually all of the. So it's funny when I was coming into the studio. I thought that I was like, what's the big deal? However, when I'm then watched the video and I really thought about it, I realize it's a huge deal and to me to deal for for several reasons. First of which the first thing that you said, I can't believe that Will Smith is fifty. And so I think what it's doing at least for me is it's redefining what fifteen means. Right? So there was a time win. Forty was midlife. So fifty was like you old Will Smith arguably has felt like he has been the exact same age since fresh fresh prince of Bel-Air, which what is probably twenty five years ago? Yeah, if not more. So I say that to say that damn was just all the time my head right. If someone in the live check, look it up for us, and I'm kind of down because I want to date myself. On July already know Iowa. I'm like fine. One. Oh. Red, you, you Pino nor a. But no, it just really to me, it just shows that age is changing our narrative on what it means to be fifty is changing. I think it also too is it's, it's changing. Our concept of Will Smith is he's like central exposition. He is relatable, and he is a mega star like Will. Smith is arguably one of the most reliable Hollywood box office actors it what is probably Will Smith, Tom Cruise, Brad, Pitt, Brad, Pitt any clue then they'll, and that's right now that demo yet because Daniel day Lewis retired, so say him, we know where he's still like he's the outlier kind of a little bit. He's not as like ten poli appears. Every girl he disappears out of two totally an and this dude, and this do. Music, and now he's on like, so there is a relatable niche to him while at the same time he is this huge mega star. So to me, what he did is he showed everyone he's relatable e. He has a fear of something, but the way he conquered his fear was so big. That to me it was. It was on fire. You can hear my voice. I'm like, yo, he's a g like he, he's amazing, and we do wanna point out. We'll Smith is now doing stand up comedy, so Will Smith has been hanging out with comics this whole fifty year old thing has him Chiesa. He wants to try everything that he was afraid to try. He did a sit. Is out here in these comedy streets? Slanging jokes every night. Good. People said it was funny, but he has people writing for him. So it ain't like Ryan was, you know, he got people writing, but he can deliver. If you Will Smith, he already has comedic timing a lot of comic thing. Funny anyway. So you wanna get to be fun to be stand up comedian this keep real. You just gotta be relatable to somebody. So he is in the comedy streets hanging out with Dave Chapelle and doing his thing. So it will is definitely he's definitely a guy. And if you guys are listening guests, we'll Smith there used to wrap because I'm I'm bumping into younger people who are like he used to up, yes. Okay. Okay. I intellectually, I get that, but that's all his astounding to me that people don't realize that you gotta remember when Missy Elliott came to the people. The Elliott who's does new artist. She's amazing girl out the loop, but but but I think but I think that speaks to it. Does that make sense that he literally think about it? He's he's arguably okay. He before joining Instagram has had three different lives, right? So we was Wilson at the rapper Will Smith the TV star, and then we'll Smith the movie star. Now he's entering into this whole new relations base, not just of, but his show. I always forget it on YouTube IRA net. Flicks the show that he's that he's doing, we'll show. No, that's a whole reason. He's he's back on Instagram and he does YouTube videos don't. But he's in there a show coming out making this up, maybe this wishful thinking, what is it? I think I think he's literally going to do a show. I think it's going to be a show like like the best places to go on the world, not that and making this up. I'm going to have to look it up as I go. But listen a couple people online yet. So fresh prince of Bel-Air debuted, September tenth nineteen ninety those twenty eight years ago. Carletta Carter says he's living his best life. Isn't that so true? Did it. I do going to wrong. John issue. Something's wrong with the bungee girls. Oh my God, that would have just been cool. Well, I'm just don't understand. I mean, come on understand he had nightmare on my street. We'll use only time summertime what time exactly best summertime ever created. So he Will Smith is a trailblazer. I just wanna know when his birthday became a national holiday because you know what I think it is. And this is okay. I've said this this offline before it's that. We're okay. We're living in such weird times right now, right? And I think that what what Will Smith is offering us is the exact opposite of the conversation we had with with Bill Cosby doesn't make sense. What what Will Smith is doing is basically saying, I want you to see me not not the characters, not whatever. I want you to see who I am as a man. I want you to see who I am as a husband. I want you to see who I am as a father, and I want you to see me as a human being who despite being Will Smith and all of the things that we think that mean still has fear because don't get me wrong. I think he is an amazing actor. But when you watch that video, you can tell he was afraid because the reality is there is no, there is no safety mechanism that can prevent if today is your day that today's your day and is on YouTube. Did you hear his ex wife in the background screaming, they says she's about to have a heart attack. She was. Okay. So somebody brought up another topic in the live chat and we need to get into brand Miller. Did we talk about cat? Williams? Can that is a good one. Versace, Tiffany, haddish in case y'all missed it. Cat Williams on Atlanta radio show a week or maybe two weeks ago going in on a number of comics who he mentioned. He mentioned Gerard Carmichael. He mentioned low rail hurry. He mentioned Hannibal birth. He mentioned, Tiffany, haddish in regards to Tiffany. He said things like she doesn't have a joke that we remember like a signature joke. He talked about how they were other women who were, you know, worked harder at heart Tiffany and pretty much. He said he kinda, he didn't understand her successor. He kept blaming the white man. He also gave out facts about his stats about how many tickets he sold and who owns the rights to his special bla-bla-bla fast board to given heart and Tiffany haddish on the breakfast Cup promoting their their new movie night school where Kevin Hart had time and he was sick up the shit, Honey Singh shit. He pretty much ripped into cat Williams debunked all of the lies that he said, Tiffany. Haddish's was not married to a white man because that's what cat Williams said his will, and it was missed, aren't a lot of chatter, did you did use? I completely saw it, and, and to me and this is the irony it goes back to the beginning of the Bill Cosby situation. Basically, in essence, what Kevin Hart set is regardless of whether or not the industry is or is not racist, that is not what we're talking about. We're talking about the fact that cat Williams had an opportunity cat Williams actually was the golden child, but cat Williams didn't show up to to press. Cat Williams decided to go on drugs. Cat Williams decided to be unreliable as it pertains to the professionalism of the business. And so therefore he's in essence crying over spilled milk which he himself spilt. That's the first part. The second part. I also to that. For for me again, it comes onto evolution like don't don't. We want each new generation of quote, unquote black talent to have it easier than than than the class before. Right and all and also to this is I'm gonna be an a hole. I don't really care how hard you work. I care what the market wants like. This is the thing. I don't mean it like it sounds like I could. I could be four foot eight were harder than everyone at basketball, but unfortunately, I'm not going to be that good. No, no, really? And I could be six foot eight built like LeBron are magic, are Koby and work eighty percents hard and score all the points legitimate, say this kind of working hard. And the only reason I bring a bad analogy is because that's that's an arbitrary subjective thing. The difference as at the end of the day, like, why are you so mad? Because one of us is winning or Embiid. Forgive can't William. If you talk about comedians who help other comedians, a lot of comics are impositions to do a little bit. Some people on the road. Cat Williams been known for, you know, taking like Melanie Camacho and in lieu nail and a bunch of women comedians and men on the road in that regard. But when you talk about giving people opportunities, ain't nobody out here giving looks like Kevin Hart. On the just for laughs is a big comedy. Bundy biggest comedy festivals in the world is they Mosher your candidate every year and just will ask his notoriously vanilla there. There's there's usually a couple black people speckled in, but ain't no black people in the just for laughs. Kevin Hart now has LL his network carved out into just for laughs. They do a live taping and it's it's a, it's a, it's a whole thing that's been inserting oughta. Black people that was just will pass was there because of Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart, given them opportunities, edge AFL, Kevin HARA has to comedy. Special series has harder to city that that he gives comics an opportunity to shine and he has Kevin Hart next where they get it thirty minutes special. Ain't nobody out here giving looks like that because once you get a TV credit in some cases, you got that. Look, you can get on the road. You can do a little more which career calcium's ain't create not special opportunity. He ate bringing, nobody know festival, like I get what he was. Yes, he was hating. But you can't, hey, like that. If you ain't help and nobody out. I totally. I totally great. And then also too I'm going to bring it also to use something you've said in the past. I think he's actually mad at Tiffany haddish because he could never get Tiffany added. It. Oh, let's be real cause for her though. Why you come in for her specifically? Does it make sense? So I think that's valid. I think also to what it shows is, and it's gonna sound. And it's gonna sound weird. I think people sleep on Kevin Hart having just just what you are ticketed Kevin Hart is out here making making creating legacies essence right? He's giving people an opportunity. So again, is that really what Williams mad at. Because sometimes when someone crates an opportunity, it makes it harder for you. If you think that the that, that there are no opportunities to be had because you're not taking accountability for yourself, the minute someone is able to do it, then you can't say that it can't be done and not only obviously is Kevin Hart doing Kevin Hart to to your point is doing on such a large scale that it's really saying like there's room for everyone to eat. What are you bitching about. Last call. So I don't really have anything for last call. So I think I'm going to shout out someone in our live chat, and I'm going to give a happy birthday shoutout to Funda for l.. And anyone else who also has a September birthday, happy. Happy birthday on what else? Oh, the important stuff vote. Y'all make sure you're registered VO research the candidates, and, oh, a little fun fact update. I'm like over whatever it was over last week. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, just anyone who was enjoy line. Okay, cool. While we'll talk about it out in the after show. So if anyone is interested, we'll give a life update in the after show my last call. I got nothing. Oh, I would too big pine comedy, fizzling zone. I was wanted. People got best that fast. Thank you. Good time. It was in flagstaff shots all the comic that that we're there. But you know, I had a good time. That's all I got the good. Good, good, good. And I know you is missing meal. He will be back next week, same time. So. You have a little bit of homework for us, and the reason being is here happy hour. The way that you tip us is showing us that you love and you that by going to tunes you subscribe rate comment. 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The O.J. Simpson Trial: The Bronco Chase

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The O.J. Simpson Trial: The Bronco Chase

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Some things change some things don't. I. Michael Hobbs I'm a reporter for the Huffington Post I'm Sarah Marshall I'm working on a book about the Satanic Panic and we are on Patriae on at Patriotair, dot com slash about and there's lots of other ways to support the show, and there's also ways to not support the show. Also support the show spiritually by. Giving money to sex workers, yes, or whatever else you want to support, and we think that's chill and good you go and today. God. We're talking about like the biggest most anticipated television events in the history of this huck as we're finally talking about the infamous. Bronco Chase. We are I'm so happy. Don't you feel like we're soap opera that has arrived at a wedding or something thought. I would say feel like jumping the shark probably, but then I feel like at the end of this episode, people will feel. Satisfied or disappointed or whatever, and then look up and be like Oh, and then there is a trial to i. Love. To think back. Over his previous nine episodes that we've done. His. Tell me what you think are salient points well, we've followed Oj. Nicole's relationship, as it became abusive, and then more abusive, and then culminated in him, committing the murder of her in Ron Goldman. We've had Marcia Clark Prosecutor and in the passenger seat of this investigation, but is trying to reach over and grab the wheel. And when last we left the story, Oj was basically amassing a big legal team to start fighting this and I don't even know which episode we talked about this, but he had departed on the Bronco Chase with his friend AC cowlings planning to kill himself. And then they went to the place where Nicole was buried, but there were too many media there, and then he was going to kill himself in the car, but then a C- sort of saw him, and he decided not to. And that's where we left them. Sort of in the midst of this long, slow weird chase. where. They have been suspended for for a very long time. Yes, great summarizing and my plan after we're done with this episode to Take Heaven Okay Hiatus, and then pick up the story again in like a season two, and and so we're going to talk about what was going on in by credit gent's house. immediately leading up to the Bronco Chase Chris. We're going to return to one of our gospels. Which is the gospel of Paula and first of all bring us up to speed about his. Who Is Paula Barbieri and What do you remember about the way? Okay kind of said goodbye to her before the Bronco Chase again. Paul Zangari is oh. Jay's girlfriend, who he was seeing before the death of Nicole. He had basically decided to stop seeing her after all of this happened. I'm going to rewind and replay for you Paulo Barbie. Areas Goodbye scene with. As, cute depicted it because I want to compare it than what we learn according to a different source, so she says AC hands her late two thousand dollars in cash, and he says okay wanted me to give you. This C- can get on a plane and go home and OJ's walking Paula out to her friend. Tom's cheap and Paul is saying I love you I love you. I'll be there. There for you OJ opened. The keeps passing here door gentleman to the end I thought grimly, and closed it after me. I held my hand up to the window and okay, but his long fingers up to mine then Oj, said goodbye to me in a way I'd never want to hear again. He reminded me of a boy I'd known back in high school the class. Valedictorian rock-solid Kris Kin. Whenever okay claimed that almond cheated I'd point to that young man as proof that he was wrong. Now you promised me something okay, said through the closed window. You promise me that you'll get out of California and go back to Panama City and Mary that guy back home, and then the car pulls away. It's Very Casa Blanca, isn't it? It is so okay we are now going to turn to an American tragedy by Lawrence Schiller, which I am very excited to tell you use as many sources, and basically the book chronicling defense team, but is most essentially the Gospel according to Bob. Kardashian who is five Kardashian David Schwimmer. Okay for those who don't know what that means. He's OJ's friend who is a lawyer, but not like a lawyer lawyer and he acts as Oj's personal life coach throughout this and is like tangentially on his legal team, but is not like a key member of his legal team. Yeah, or he is like he in that he seems to be the one who is like Oh k.'s kind of buddy. Yeah, and he is Kim's dad also yes. Kim Kardashian. Yes, and he's the first Kardashian. He's like the Lilith. That's mom of Kurdish. I can tell you been on Don. Booth kick lately I really have. All Right Mike when you like to hear about the David Schwimmer Cameo in this really yeah. What okay, I shall read you now Jeffrey. Toobin is the run of his life which tells us. That Bob Shapiro is assembling a world class team of experts for the defense team in the week following the murders, and so he does this. wooing partly by flying them first class, putting them up and I believe the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. If Bob Shapiro wants you on his defense team, he will give you the experience that Richard Gere gives to Julia Roberts in pretty good. And so one of the things that he does to charm a medical expert that he's just flown in and is trying to get on the defense team that he takes him to be premiere of New Jack Nicholson movie called Wolf. Has a role played by a very young actor at the start of his career named David Schwimmer. So satisfying to now, yeah. And then David Schwimmer will of course go on to play, Bob Tashin Ashen and the people vs OJ Simpson the Ryan Murphy, show and the world will go on to forget the existence of the movie wolf entirely. Okay, so American tragedy. Be Lawrence, Schiller. Book Has Auguin Paula Barbieri standing in the side yard, holding each other I want you to leave Simpson said she was carrying defiant. I'm not leaving. I don't want you to see this look. I didn't do this thing. I love you and I want you to stay strong I'll be alright AC has money to get you back to Florida. They gave her the money. And robuck says Paula was crying wouldn't get in the car AC given the money and get her out of here Simpson, said angrily her dashing and cowlings half escorts. Half bodyguards got in the car. It was embarrassing. Paula is depicting her phone. Okay is having this fairly prolonged sweet moment where he's like. You remember that guy you told me about back. Home Hind Him Mary him instead and in this version. Okay is basically trying to get rid of her. But which one do you think is more plausible I am inclined to believe the substance of what Paul is saying, but maybe not. That happened so nicely as depicted. You know he's like he's been pretty heavily sedated this week, right? He's not making a ton of sense. He's seeming kind of affect plus. It's interesting. That Paul writes a scene where he's able to really like show up her right, but on the other hand he's historically. Kind of thing kind of on autopilot so like. Seems likelier to me that like the man writing a book about like the defense team who seemly. Very uninterested in Paula. Generally like she's barely depicted in this lifetime, we're ready to believe that lay it happened, but that like Polish version of it makes that may be nicer than it was. Yeah, or they had that conversation two days previously, and she's sort of poured into the scene because it's like its narrative, more convincing that way. That's true, too. That happens a lot in the way that we remember things like. We unprompted, will I think subconsciously kind of stick together parts of different memories to make a coherent story kind of depicts the whole of a relationship. And if she's giving herself that moment at all, inaccurately than like whatever. Sure Yeah, let's talk about what happens after Paula leaves. Okay all right, so it's Kim seventeen. O K has been staying in Bob. Kardashians House that we because the media doesn't know where it is, and so they can't find him surveilled him. He left his house on Rockingham when he when he realized it was possible for the Media Lake take pictures of him and other people through the windows in the house early. So the morning of Friday, the seventeen, the house is woken up by Bob Shapiro calling to talk to Bob Kardashian. The two BOBs are conferring Bob Shapiro says I've got bad news. They should arrest warrant for Oj. He has to surrender by eleven and. Bob Crashing by his own account as like. You want me to tell him. And appears like. Why don't you wait until I got there so bob? Kardashian tells his Fiancee Denise who tells me. CHICAGO AC to sort of get someone. Around have like a cooling effect on because AC is is okays best and oldest friend. Also, is like. Why don't you get the guns out of the House Bob? Like, yeah I agree it's all kind of darkly funny. Because in this is an implicit acknowledgement, that OJ hasn't insane temper and could blow up and do something violent and impulsive, which is exactly what he's being accused of the murder of Nicole very good point my. It's almost like an acknowledgement that OJ Yup could have done this like we kind of know. Yeah, what's what people seem to be describing is because this general, and maybe this fear that they themselves are not really trying to name, but just like Oh some various things could happen. Yeah, and so Bob Shapiro gets to Viper, Dash House. The two bobs are united, they like take their Bob Rings and put them together and early form. Yet, plead delivering bad news. And, then they go up to OJ's room and Bob Shapiro like okay. The police have called me and you're gonNA. Have to turn yourself in and according to her Dash Ian Oj. Dislike basically doesn't react. And Shapiro's like you're going to carry with double murder. And you have to surrender yourself by eleven o'clock this morning and it's like nine. And then. Bob Shapiro says. If you have anything you want to tell us okay. This is the time this is the last time you were going to be alone with your attorneys with no eavesdropping Oh and a hoarding to American tragedy. Okay says I've told you everything before I've got nothing to hide. And then he starts talking about how he can't understand why. They're not looking for other people. Obviously, these murders had to be committed by two people Yup Colombian drug traffickers favorites involved. We all know more convincing. The story it was the Colombian drug traffickers that are after famous nick and anyway so Bob Shapiro I mean well. How okay let's let's imagine you have. Bob, Shapiro's in this moment first of all congratulations and I'm sorry. What do you do if you like you? Go inform your client and you're like. The police needed to turn yourself in in a couple of hours. They're gonNA charge you with double murder. If you have anything to say to me before you go to jail where you probably will be held without bail. His. Please tell me now and if your client immediately is like I. Don't know why this is happening. Why are they looking for two people? I've already told you everything like what what do you do? I mean I struggled to put myself in the shoes of Baja. Just because so many. You wouldn't have taken this guy. Why would I be doing any? First of all, I would be trimming my eyebrows secondly. I would not be representing somebody like OJ. Simpson be massaging whenever they put into catcher's Mitts to make them supple. Face. I mean I don't know I. Mean isn't the whole thing with lawyering. That like you have to believe your client. Even if it's a little far fetched well, yeah, I mean Bob Hero is not mandated to use it. Offense dictated by what his client says, and initially he's going to be like okay. What if we go for diminished capacity? That can work right like no. I need a lawyer who believes in my innocence, and like that is probably the most significant reason why Bob Shapiro gets pushed out and Johnny Cochran emerges as Oj's most important lawyer. Bob Shapiro alienates himself from OJ pretty early in the game by not being faithful enough to OJ's emotional reality is basically you know at this point you know. They spent a few days kind of talking I. Think he can gather that Oj is like very attached his version of events, and that it's like a integral to his identity that he's not bad guy lake that seems pretty clear, and so I think that if I were Bob Shapiro would be like I am not. Not going to try and take this thing away from you because your whole self has been built around it, but then I'm thinking like a journalist, right? That's what journalists do. I don't know if that's useful tool lawyer I mean this is basically me. Saying like if I were Laurie, that's what I would have done but I don't know if I would have been very lawyer. Yeah, that's where I am too so I. Guess we have a good job for yes, we are. So? Anyway Bob Shapiro chooses the option of accepting OJ's response, being and then being like I've got doctors and nurses on the way we're going to take some blood samples and some hair samples he is he kinda came his the subject which I feel like. Is there response of the person who doesn't know how to respond throughout time? Yes, as we remind ourselves every Thanksgiving and so also suddenly seems to remember something. Something and it's like I've got to take care of my kids. I have to make some calls, and then suddenly he does start acting as if he might be preparing to shake off this mortal coil. Oh okay. It's ambiguous because he could be preparing to go into jail, but he's also. He's writing these letters that are ambiguously suicide notes. They have some of the content of suicide notes, but they're not totally explicit. Before any of that happens though before, okay, writes these notes that eventually are going to be read to the American people later that day. Okay finds a tape recorder of Bob Kardashians, and he starts recording a message on. They're kind of like. How listen felicity with send cassette tape parallels? Take the beginning Garoppolo care. We have conscription of this in American Dragon I'm going to read to you from it. Okay, okay, says who boy I don't know how I ended up here. Who's apparently long pause? And then he says I thought I lived a great life. I thought I treated everybody well. I went out of my way to make everybody comfortable in happy. I felt very lonely at times in recent years and I. Don't know what it is I mean. I had a loving girl in Paula? My kids love me. Everybody loved me, but I don't know why. I was feeling so alone all the time. Liquid am I'm the juice whatever that means, but I felt at times like I was I felt goodness in my cell. I don't feel any goodness myself right now. I feel emptiness I. don't even know what I'm saying here and the whole tape is about ten minutes long. Thank you for not reading the whole thing. It sounds like Michelle just these like. Long monologues like these weird repeated phrases. Yeah, people are not very entertaining when they're in their ups. Yeah, and then he closes, he seems to kind of retur