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"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

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01:36 min | Last month

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"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

The Knife Junkie Podcast

04:12 min | Last month

"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

"On the PODCAST shoot, bob any email bob at the knife chucky dot com bobby. Dot Com. All right. I didn't quite understand this when bob a brother-in-law James Birthday knife does that mean you got your brother in law James Birthday knife for that mean the brother in law got you a knife? No, my brother-in-law. Got Me. So this is the first last night worse. Last. Night was the first time I've seen him since since my birthday and yeah, I mean, I have a playlist on my youtube channel knives my brother gave me and knives my brother-in-law gave me because they always both give me cool gifts But yesterday they came over and he gave me this. This is the new Gerber. This part of their new kind of like how saga has been rebranding garber has been doing a bit of this in the past five or so years, and this is their new knife quadrant. The quadrant and to me, my immediate reaction is it looks like a small production version of. The wheel wheeling slash I don't know if you. Jim I know you don't know what that means I don't I'm not sure if the listeners are familiar with that knife, but it's it's a custom knife I've only seen it a few times, but it looks it's like this but a lot bigger. It's like a big rectangle. It's like a big straight razor and So he gave me this I was very excited because this is one of the knives that gerbers come out with in the past. Two years we've talked about this on supplemental show before when it came out and It's one of the one of the Gerbers I've been excited to check out and So you've got this. Really Cool. Thinly ground hollow ground straight razor. Blade. It's seven CR thirteen movie or seven CR V. I'm not sure what the what the I'm not sure exactly what it is. I. Know It seventy CR I'm not sure what the next number is is what I mean. So it's GonNa be softer steel, but it's going to sharpen up a really quickly and it's GonNa be it's GonNa Sharpen up razor-sharp.

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"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

The Knife Junkie Podcast

04:52 min | Last month

"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

"All right. We are back on the knife jumpy podcast Hope you are enjoying this video addition if you're watching on Youtube, it's not the I was GonNa say Static Audio Graham, but it's a it's an audio. Graham which which means it's not static. Movie But the way forms are moving but just the picture. So hopefully, you're liking this better again let us know. We would like to hear some comments about this as well as. Kind of what you do like what you don't like any suggestions for improvement where all about trying to make the show is. Good as it can be. So we would love to hear from you just be gentle with me because I am video newbie. So take it easy on me I. appreciate that. All right. Let's Let's let Bob Talk. Let's let Bob bloviate state of the collection Bob you trade it in a knife or something you have been warning for a while I did traded in something that I wanted for a while had loved and then okay. So yeah, I'm I traded my Medford Slim. which was a beautiful knife and I got it from. Alex. from Alex Box, he gave me a screaming deal. And When I got that I got another night from him too. So ordinarily, this is the way I work ordinarily I'd say I, I can't get rid of that I bought that from Alex Alex is my buddy. It's almost kind of the gift thing can't get rid of a gift night In this case, I got two knives with that purchase and the other one The Emerson Iron Dragon means way more to me though I love this US limiting but So I, headed up on blade forms and someone came along and said. I'd love this limit. Can I trade you my new in box trm Adam? And Employment and I said yes and we did that and so sitting at my desk at work I think I think it came on Friday while I was hiking is the trm had him and you know I've been we've had Marianne Halpern show number of times says she was on the interview she's been on A Tory. Yeah to the knife town halls and she's awesome and and three rivers. Manufacturing makes incredible knives from from what we hear from everybody and the one that is really in my wheelhouse is the atom. It's got the three point six inch blade and and it just a beautiful profile and it looks like the perfect combination between total utility and and just simply beautiful as that accent that's right up my alley plus the the cool thing about most of these trm knives if not, all of them is that they make it easy to swap out the Scales and then they make a bunch of different scales available. So instead of having to disassemble the knife to change the scales he just. Remove a couple of tops screws take the scale of but a new scale on. So it's A..

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"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

The Knife Junkie Podcast

10:27 min | 11 months ago

"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

"I'm sorry what's it called the That knife is beautiful and it looks like an elaborate production to me The handle is very very milled and beautiful. It looks like that design in particular particular must have taken a lot of work a lot of machine kind for those those and that's what we're doing with our neutrons or other knives now is that that's going to be an option option. I'm not sure you've seen some of our search scales for our atom. We're doing more of that as an option that we really do like those intricate kinds of other than just flat. The labs you do a lot of three D. surface machining. That Kinda Kinda sit set us apart from other. Production is in the designs to you cut designs signs into the handles lake like the atom in China Try So have you made any fixed blades or have any interest in in that market. Explain many many years back in. And we're just not explained company and we're not going to pursue that we we make folders well okay so as a folder maker what. What do you consider the pinnacle goal of making a folder? And what I mean is as as as an expert as someone who's been creating these These really precise tools. What what is the ultimate goal for you as a company Arisen night? I'm sorry as as someone trying to perfect a knife. Like what would the perfect knife look like. I don't know seen instagram lately. I think we throw a few them out there. I don't know we just keep evolving. I think less every day I love my Adam. Love my Adam so we just keep taking that and anything we can learn from that we just bring ned into the next night in terms of manufacturing right now feel like we. We hit something right there. Something that's just very usable but elegant and lightweight week not threatening to people in Stay with that get better at it. It looked so Precise I don't know that the the the way the whole thing looks just from seeing close ups in video And now I really have to get one in hand. But they look like they're so dialed in. I don't know how else was to say it with the tolerances with and with how the lock you know it's it's all titanium there's no stick and all that I mean you just seem to have it down. We're trying to get more and more down because some of the things that maybe have some stick aren't so dialed in. They'll end up getting shipped else. So we're we're really trying to get that down that they're everything we can't you can't have script. You couldn't have a tremendous amount of scrap. You're not going to be making money so we're getting quite good at that. They are one by one they all getting there and that it. It's not like shooting across the Nice. If you're going to be a manufacturer in your life have to be fit like a custom knife. You're not gonNA last too long so we're really trying to dial everything in so we can continue to do that. So how does the How is your titanium business now affected by the boom in your knife business? Oh we still sell some titanium Just the raw material but that never even know. That's the name of the company. We never really was a large part of the company. I just sell small pieces to custom knife makers we just really changed from custom knife. Whatever we call ourselves to how titanium just to make a sound stronger and had really we did sell that much titanium we do a lot of machining and titanium and we still do always will Will never be called helping aluminum. We will never a nice. We will be titanium carbon fiber so really has an impact that part the custom knife supply part. We actually gave that up about five five or six years ago. It was just taking a little bit too much time for what gained. We had so many other supply companies and we said we're not going to go that route. We're just going to let that go deal with the slip joints you've done three. I think three slow John's so you mentioned the European market before how how are things working for. TRM in Europe it is very popular for sure. That's been probably the most popular knife that we have there but I think we are. We also do sell neutrons and atoms around the world world. So far we haven't haven't lost too many seconds Stralia has been a little bit of a problem We're about fifty fifty getting them through customs so really really what happens to them they send them back to you or do that. Just put them in their pockets. Not sure they kind of sit there for a few weeks and sometimes they come back to us or sometimes they don't go anywhere but we we keep selling. We're not gonNA stop for that. We have a few issues could customs. But it's not worth it saying. We're just not going to do it right right. Well how do you think TRM Plan for it to grow is it is it a volume thing is designed thing. Tell me what you think the forward or would path is for trm. Well certainly these Adam and a neutron become our bread and butter models. And we're feeling really good about the nerd followed by the shadow. And I'll tell you the new ones GonNa call it be called the collusion collusion's so expect those the real core group of knives and and we want to keep making them and and making our production so we can keep making all available at some point or at least you're not waiting for a year to get something that they're all be the apart of our our line we're going to keep that same ammo thin light good materials could blade steel And they're going to be some variation nations not all gonna be exactly like neutron and the ad on finicky cat scene. It's just a nice nice. I was thinking about Kind of contrast between lean companies that I admire some companies I'll say like Chris. Reeve Knives Knives for instance they hit upon a design and and they just keep making these amazing knives but they're very careful about how they roll out the next item the the next knife. And there's something to appreciate in that that sort of care that goes into really kind of deciding what comes out next. Yeah I agree. Yeah absolutely Chris Chris. reprises is is the The Bar Need Street and we whenever we're compared to them. It's a great honor and we're hoping that The atom and a neutron are so benches ages. And we think there's a pretty good chance that they can be at we don't need. We're not going to rush. She how many nights we can get out. We want those to be have a nice solid base and and gradually add other models else but certainly many companies have a few core knives and they've been making them for thirty years so definitely not a company. That's GonNa make one knife. Nope you can't get that anymore. More next I gotTA say your design. Language is very Universal it's not trendy it's popular now but it also seems like it could be popular. You know fifteen years. Hence whereas some Some companies that I also admire you know come out with many models a year here or multiple models a year and they seem to be on trend. And it's kind of funny to talk about trends in the knife world but they're trends everywhere you know. This one's ended sized purple and has a warrant cliff played. Well that's not going to last for too long. You know. Maybe they weren't cliff blade. But you know just this idea of putting out something that's that's compelling but neutral in terms of You know it's not something that looks dated and then just perfecting it year after year and making making it better and better and and just you know locking in on a model like that or a couple of models. That's exactly what we're trying to do Kind of a classic look not old fashioned which is classic something that you are proud to carried. Show your friends. So do you go to all the knife shows. Can people find you there and talk to you ago deeply. Bleach Will do New York custom knife show in March we do the US an and unfortunately we just missed the bleacher West and we decided that we're we're GONNA go to that next year just because some people out there haven't had a chance they don't get the blade Shell So we're going to do that. When exposed saw a lot of press about it this year it seems like it's Sir it's gotten maybe it just wasn't on my radar before it's gotten much bigger naked? Something pretty good out there. Yes so how do people get into a three river knives Three river manufacturing knives. How do you how do you find them? How do you buy them? What's the best way for people to To connect with your knives. Well we do have a website three rivers. MSG DOT COM in at this point. A lot of our knives are not available. But what I do is I have a newsletter. Every two weeks did have to sign up for our newsletter online and I give them updates on when a next Waiting lists is going to be available for neutrons and atoms in the nerds. And that's the best way to stay in touch if you like to see things as they're going on our facebook group tycoons really matter Very active active and I do a lot of a fair amount of winding in there. But I do show a lot of what's going on behind the scenes and then instagram certainly post. The're hillary also spoon some posting about every day and we email and we have a tycoon at three rivers. MSG DOT COM Hillary Hillary at three rivers that Com- Jennifer at three rivers in ask Dot Com. Oh they're all so excited. You just gave up their emails. Ah So in conclusion. What would be the knife you told me? I had to have at three rivers manufacturing knife. TRM which knife would would you. Would you say I love by neutron. It's three inches in. It's just perfect size for me less lousy atom three and a half inches so between either one of those. 'cause I haven't even carried out of yet 'cause I can't give up my neutron and every day I could carry anything I want. I could change the color of the hour. But I just can't seem to get rid of mine neutron so I'll partial to that and that's what I got to say about that so either. Those will thank you. Marianne helping thank you so much for coming on the knife junkie. PODCAST was a pleasure talking to you and finding out more about. TRM knives visit the knife junkie at the knife. Junkie Dot Com catch all of our podcast episodes videos photos and bore.

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"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

The Knife Junkie Podcast

03:38 min | 11 months ago

"o. f trm" Discussed on The Knife Junkie Podcast

"Podcast. I'm your co host Jim. The knife new person. And I'm Bob. DEMARCO the knife junkie. Welcome to the PODCAST. Welcome to the knife Junkie podcast. It's the place for knife newbies like myself and I've junkies like you to learn about knives and knife collecting here from knife. Designers makers manufacturers reviewers anyone who loves knives. That's what we do here on the weekend edition of the Knife Junkie podcast where we have an interview and we talked to someone in the knife industry and Bob this show this week and show last week are the first two shows we've had that we've actually had female interviewees interviewees find just just awesome. Yeah me too me too. It's a it's a great It's a great change at the seems to be a male dominated industry. I know all of my viewers on youtube seemed to be male. And that's great. That's all good but You know I know there are some knife junk gets out there and uh-huh we want to bring more of them into the conversation to right. Yes stace Stacey A- Jennings last week with Douglas esposito attention to detail mercantile and and but this week Marianne Halpern Three rivers manufacturing. The whole interview her so what what was your kind of thought process going into to talking talking to Marianne with three rivers. Well I gotta say I was very interested to talk to her because the knives The three rivers manufacturing knives Kinda came quietly onto the scene in quietly yet they made quite a ripple With knife critics on YouTube. Their knives are and I mean this in the best of ways their knives understated and they are high performers by understated. I mean they're not big flashy crazy designs. They're simple beautiful. You know a timeless designs and from everything I've heard from my favorite knife critics and others Online they are fantastic. Performers performance now Recently Pete from Cedric Anita Channel and Also slices dicey. Brian from sliced dicey have both alluded to the fact act that the trm the three rivers manufacturing atom which is the three and a half inch the larger bladed knife. Is there kind of desert island knife if you know they Brian from sleazy dicey went through this big process of what his he has a great video upright now what his favorite knife of twenty nineteen was and he had all these fantastic knives. I think he had twelve out on his On his reviewing Matt and he sort of just a would pick a knife folk singers praises and eliminate it and he got all the way down to the Tiara Adam and for good reason. It's thin slicing strong. Beautiful made of awesome materials does and Pete from Cedric Anita. From all of his testing. You know he does all this Bro. Science testing where he cuts ropes and slices paper and counts and he does a lot of Interesting testing he came to the conclusion that the Adam is his favorite folding knife. Recently he's been on the show to he's on but that interview is coming up next but I do want to remind you that our sponsor for today's podcast is quick books. They have an annual event called quickbooks. Connect Act at their annual conference. That took place in early November. If you were able to be there well that's great. I know I'd love to go to San Jose In the wintertime. Time here for me in the East Coast but anyway they made several announcements at quickbooks. Live which is gonNA help They've got a team of virtual actual bookkeepers..

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Could Genetics Grow a Square Tomato?

BrainStuff

06:08 min | 1 year ago

Could Genetics Grow a Square Tomato?

"Today's episode is brought to you by smart water twenty years ago. Smart water, reimagined, what water could be from thoughtful bottle designed to supporting smart people who are changing our world through fresh thinking. Like, you smart water has added electrolytes for taste and great tasting water helps you stay hydrated, feeling refreshed and ready to take on your day. Refresh yourself with smart water. Welcome to brain stuff from how stuff works. Hey, brain stuff. I'm Lauren vocal bomb. And if you wander the protas, I'll at your local grocery store, you'll find a dazzling variety of tomatoes from Charrier grape shaped to massive beef steaks and gnarly heirlooms same with squash potatoes, cucumbers and leafy greens. This bounty of diverse colors shapes and sizes isn't the result of natural selection. But rather human selection over millennia farmers and plant breeders have spotted useful mutations and fruits and vegetables, tastier fruit. Better yields novel shapes and preserved those traits through conventional breeding techniques the process is slow. But if you cross different strains enough times eventually you may create something new enough and marketable enough to be called its own variety. That's low and steady. Conventional breeding process is about to get a big boost from advances in genetic mapping with a tomato or cucumber genome in hand plant breeders, don't have to wait months for tomato plant to bear fruit to know, whether the tomatoes will be pear shaped or round. Instead, they can look for telltale markers and a seedlings DNA the code for specific fruit shape, size and color this technique of marker assisted selection promises to cut years off the traditional plant breeding process. One Esther vendor nap is at the forefront of genetic research into exactly how a plans DNA instructs fruit to grow long and lean like a hothouse cucumber or round and squat like a beefsteak tomato in her lab at the university of Georgia post, docs and undergraduates sliced tomatoes in half in place them on a flatbed scanner to measure the precise shapes and sizes produced by different genetic combinations. In a paper published in November of two thousand eighteen in the journal nature communications Vander nab announced the discovery of two. Families of genes that appear to play key roles and making fruits and vegetables, either round or long fruits and vegetables are technically plants edible organs and those organs grow and develop through cell division. She explained to make a certain shape like a long around shape, you need to have certain patterns of cell division. Either the cells divide horizontally, or they divide vertically, which makes sense the more Oregon cells divide horizontally by splitting down the middle. The more. They're going to build up tissue horizontally, creating a fatter rounder fruit. What Vander nap and her colleagues discovered in the tomato. Genome is a specific gene called ov- eight that appears to be responsible for creating proteins that tell cells to divide in a vertical pattern when more cells split side side, the growth pattern produces at en- long gated fruit. Ov- eight is the difference between a perfectly round cherry tomato and an oblong Plum tomato. Wild tomatoes, like the native varieties found in Peru. Ecuador and Mexico are invariably small and round says Vander nap which means pear shaped and other in long gated tomatoes are mutations that came along later as far back as the nineteen thirties. Plant biologists called the long Gatien mutation ov- eight but had no clue about the actual genetic mechanism behind it. But van nap and her team identified the ovation protein as well as another family of proteins called TRM's that interact with Lovie, and it provides another tool to plant breeders who are using marker assisted selection, if the ov- eight N, T R and markers are present. You can be sure the fruit will be in long gated if one or the other is missing. It's backed round evanger, nap says this will speed up the breeding process and let growers focus on trickier traits. Like yield and pest resistance that aren't as easily linked back to one or two specific genes. So now the question is do these advances in plant genetics mean that your produce Iowa soon include square tomatoes? Or pyramid-shaped pumpkins not likely says Vanja nap, but not because it's technically impossible. She says there are tons of bizarre mutations in the tomato. Genome that result in odds looking fruits and since those mutations are naturally occurring. They could be isolated and replicated in the lab, but the problem was square, tomatoes and other oddball. Shaped fruit is twofold. Internet says first there's the GMO problem if plant breeders use, gene editing to directly tweak or replace genes in food plants. Those strains are considered GMO and some people get freaked out by the GMO label, even though genetically modified organisms as category are no less or more safe than conventionally modified organisms. Second exciting new fruit and vegetable shapes may not shape up in other ways of Android apps said some mutations are so bizarre. That no grower would grow them because they have lots of other problems. They only have a few fruit per plant or they taste terrible. Because when you grow fruit in a really odd shape. You mess up the hormone balance, it may not be very juicy or tasty at all. If you really want to grow a square tomato says Vanja up just put a box round it like you may have seen done with other fruit. Like watermelons should those hit the scene at a premium price? You can always tried growing your own at home. There are plenty of instructions online for building your own square fruit boxes. Today's episode was written by Dave ruse and produced by Tyler claim for I heart media, and how stuff works for more on this and lots of other well rounded topics visit our home planet. How stuff works dot com. Mating matters is why we do what we do. I'm Dr Wendy, Walsh, psychologist and relationship. Guru. And I've got a new podcast that explores the secret evolutionary motivation for human behavior. Mating matters listening. Subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

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"o. f trm" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)

MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)

03:53 min | 2 years ago

"o. f trm" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)

"To set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next as a day of thanksgiving in October eighteen sixty three while the nation was busy fighting a civil war, president ABRAHAM LINCOLN issued that thanksgiving proclamation asking the country to come together and take stock to be thankful and hopeful in a time marked by conflict and war, and it is because of that Malysz Lewis and profound piece of writing from our sixteenth president that we celebrate thanksgiving today as a national holiday now, if you track the mashed potatoes on your thanksgiving table through the winding path of history, you wind up here at that front page of the paper with that presidential proclamation are American landscape, obviously looks a little different these days instead of dispatches from the battlefields in American states and casualty reports in the tens of thousands and wrenching debates over freedom versus enslavement our newspapers today filled with wildfires and troops at the border in wondering when the next indict. Will come down. But even in times of national strife and times of national division. We still do set apart the day to take in the fruitful fields in healthful skies with one heart one voice as a whole American people. And it's probably the understatement of the decade to say that's not often an easy lift, but here's to the attempt. And here's wishing you a happy peaceful and hopeful day of thanksgiving. We'll be right back. Programming note last week in MSNBC premiered, a new project hosted by the great, Rachel Maddow. Oh, it's a documentary about Richard Nixon called the trail. If you missed it, do not worry betrayal tells a fascinating story about Richard Nixon. But it's not about Watergate. This is something that Nixon did on his way to the presidency back during the election of nineteen sixty eight. Nixon leads in the polls, but his White House. Dreams are haunted by LBJ's progress toward ending the war. Bixente worries about that the prospect of an October surprise the piece is being negotiated that it's in hand. And that it boosts the prospects of Hubert Humphrey, mid October Lyndon Johnson, fuels, Nixon's, worst, fear. Speaking addicted that you. In a conference. Call LBJ updates the presidential candidates confidentially on a big breakthrough in the negotiations. North Vietnam at last is willing to talk with South Vietnam. Absolute. Comment to the substance of these matters being juries to your country after all this work all year Johnson finally had a package that the north yet AMIS would accept and he was selling to the South Vietnamese. Nixon gets a top secret briefing from the commander in chief on his progress toward peace, and what does Nixon do he betrays the president and the nation. What Nixon did with that information? How he got away with what president Johnson called treason, and what is actions cost thousands of Americans. And Vietnamese are the subject of TRM's special report called betrayal. You can catch. It this Friday at nine pm eastern on MSNBC definitely watch N DVR watch it again that does it for us tonight. We'll see you again tomorrow the way chill Madame show nine. Nine on MSNBC. The fact of the matter was he was this is a story that is not well known stuck in my mind about it was this was in the white, but it really should be especially maybe now. Oh my God. MSNBC present bagman. Search bag man to subscribe now..

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"o. f trm" Discussed on 1075 KZL

1075 KZL

02:55 min | 2 years ago

"o. f trm" Discussed on 1075 KZL

"The day has come for you, ladies, I've known you wanted some of this for. Oh. Governess back. Wear like some sort of TRM. I would never want that for the record happened drinks Jason. Yeah. Jared said kids are involved down keep that hidden from the kids if that ever happened, right? And obviously, you know, half the country gets divorced. Maybe lately, I think the divorce rate is a little bit less down to four around forty better. But still I mean, that's a lot of people getting divorced and it breaks apart families. And then there's other people that are involved in kids lives, and then you don't get to see your kids as much. That's a big thing. Right. It can be difficult. Then some people don't have kids. They get divorced. And it's this, and I did hear this believe it or not this little statistic. I heard that guys. Overall have a tougher time moving on from an ex then women do believe it or not an women initiate more divorces than guys do. So even if the guy was the reason why the relationship wasn't working. There have a tougher time. I guess it's over overall numbers. I can see that I can make a little bit of sense of that. I think because I think that maybe men might tend to think all the grass is always greener. Yes, I think men. Tend to believe that a little bit more. And so then when the reality of the separation. Seeps in like, oh when I had was pretty great. And then it's harder to move on. Then I start imagining measuring another guy sleeping with my wife. And then I get you get mad. You know what I'm saying? Somebody other guy intruding in that area. That's. We understand what it how it works thinking that way. I think about it. Now that probably is bothersome where I guess, I don't know. Look, I've done some crazy things. When I broke up with girls who broke up with me. No. But I don't see many girls going that crazy every once in a while. No, I see a lot of guys like I had a friend that slash thumb. This new girls. Boyfriends tires, slashed the tires. They they've gotten back out on like I've seen girls girls. Go crazy. And I do know of a girl that just dating not married dating. And she wanted to get back at her boyfriend dumped her so she cut her ankle took the blood from her ankle put on her face. Call the cops and said that he beat her. He was even in the state at the time. Why there's plenty crazy. Crazy crazy crazy during the ship. But when they break up, they're not as crazy don't know that to me is girls, girls, go crazy. But I just see a lot of guys can't deal with it as much. Should we ask? The craziest thing that you have done or you've heard someone do today tomorrow. Yeah. Because I enjoy the crazy, right? Really?.

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"o. f trm" Discussed on The Read

The Read

03:25 min | 2 years ago

"o. f trm" Discussed on The Read

"None in them niggers involved with my music. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Goodbye. Oh, no. So she gets off of the album, but allegedly sensitive funk flakes to play, and I'm assuming it's because now Zonta that she was really excited which would explain why she was so pressed to get the she cleared in the first one. Okay. Don't understand why it's actually say like it had like a feature from like one of the most iconic like she was hyping the song. I mean. Yes. But that I still can't believe funk. Flex will play that on hot ninety seven like Donald buddy listened to. Nobody. But I'm trying to understand why after being told that no you can't right? I mean what he anyway, this is he played it poor decisions. Obviously a ten year old today knows how to rib audio from the radio and position on tumbler. So it made its around somehow. I'm sure if you want to go and find it at the moment somewhere, and so MS Tracy wants her things. Suing for copyright and Frenchman, when are you then filed in US district court in calif- TRM? Like monetary damages and they're also blocking Nicki Menaj from doing anything further with this. I mean, I'm sure she wishes the song never even existed this point. I'm sure also that at some point. This will all go away. Because if you will settle right what she has to. I'm just confused like couldn't this have just gone up on soundcloud or something some free platform like hits you sample. I feel like the issue with sampling has always been you need to get clearance. If you wanted then turn around and make any money off that try. No, no, not that simple. Okay. No, no, copyright infringement is just girl. I don't want you to use my things. Oh, well, never mind. It isn't just like you're making money off of it. It's it really can be very complicated. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And I'm assuming because she had to do while I'm going to say she had to, but because Nikki did that whole thing with like, oh, I'm trying to find trades jet. We're trying to get in touch with threes Chapman, and Tracy actually saying no and making shortest sue on top of that this lady for whatever reason was completely decided in the fact that she did not want her music affiliated with Nicki Menaj as she has a right. The same way if in the future somebody wants to have a wanna Nikki songs and says bitch. I don't want you use them. I shit it on matter if they put on their album or not they can't just stand the rate the song to whoever and let people listened to it. Anyway, because that means that anybody can then take that song and put it on their device elicited whenever they want. Somebody else can take it in sampling somebody you know, what I mean like, I don't want you use them. I should either. I want anybody hearing you attempting to sing you. Okay here. You got you. You know? You know? I mean, I don't know the difference in in money. What it could look like in terms of the lawsuit. Since she didn't actually make any money from it. But I know that a lawsuit is very much. Reasonable and she will more than likely win cry. So if I was thinking it'll be calling flex and hot in any seven leg y'all putting in on this. I'm putting y'all paying at least sixty percent of this..

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09:13 min | 2 years ago

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"Marathon fueling the American spirit Welcome back to Jim, Bohannon show with our guest David veto a research fellow at the independent institute and professor of history. At, the university, of Alabama Tuscaloosa Abby co, author, of TRM Howard. Doctor. Entrepreneur and civil rights pioneer we're talking about a reopening of the Emmett till murder case yes of the sixty three years ago now Clearly as you note witnesses potential, defendants in, the like in many cases, dead, this is a. Test. Of the Justice department charge of investigating long ago burgers that are thought to have been racially motivated. And The. Justice department in, the, last ten, years it's efforts led to five, successful prosecutions glue that of, Edgar Ray Killen involved in the murders of the three. Civil rights workers in the Mississippi who died in prison this past year, that. Of course was the subject of the movie Mississippi burning starring Gene Hackman which some of you may have seen over the years So the last. Successful prosecution came eight years ago when a former Alabama, state trooper was convicted of manslaughter for the killing of one Jimmy Lee Jackson or protesters debt led to the Selma to Montgomery March again to the extent that that. That the law, still applies that's fine and good in the case, of murder I don't suppose, that there is ever a statute of limitations is there Now I'm not a lawyer but no I don't I don't believe there then again there's also the the other. Notion that there are federal civil rights laws involved here that. In fact it would be quite possible to be tried twice in one of these cases once for the state law of committing murder and once, for the federal law involving the violation of someone's civil rights. And, I believe the courts have held that such trials are. For two different crimes. And therefore do not constitute. Double jeopardy that's as I recall my memory of the reading. Of this So in other words it's not an academic exercise, our actor things that presumably. Can be done in the in these cases there would potentially be a, lot of cases out there of course we're talking like, you said, about a sixty, three year, old case in in that particular case only know, one person that could, be prosecuted, all the. Law enforcement people are. Gone and, again there was a cover up you know there were there were employees black employees of milem and, Brian who were involved in the crime they were pretty much compelled to participate my wife and I interviewed one of them before he died but they're all gone now and you know the people. That covered up are pretty much all gone but there are many sort of read more recent cases you know in the. Sixties for example where a lot of people still are around So the so this evidence continuing and again the the pickings, as you might expect are so much slim but nonetheless, have been, some cases Mitch, factor there, have been a successful reopening the Justice department Had this new inquiry first reported by the Associated. Press last began a significant rule of the review of the till case fourteen years ago prosecutors audibly determined, that the statute of limitations let, them without. Any charges they could pursue in, a federal court Be FBI still conducted an inquiry which included an exclamation, of the emit immortals body from an Illinois cemetery for about two years to settle whether there were any state crimes that could still. Be prosecuted I I'm, not sure other than than murder I'm not sure what crimes we could be talking about. Here and it was interesting that prosecutors determined that. The statute of limitations had left without any charges they could pursue in a federal court if I'm not mistaken anybody involved in this had. Already been tried for murder in a state court and acquitted and of course any retrial would be double jeopardy If there's no federal Charge that that is, still around since obviously then statutes of limitations apply to the the civil rights laws that that we discussed a second ago while I find. This of academic interest I'm not quite sure where the FBI is looking. Into this at all, you do have, Caroline like, I said Brian Dunham and. She. Was never tried okay so that would be a? Case you, could bring I I unless we get a confession from her. Or something like that I think, that that extremely unlikely but I suppose it's a possibility and it's probably the main reason they reopened, this investigation I would I would guess, in, that particular case again this is a case of of Justice delayed beyond the point of of of reasonably getting, anything done and well I suppose it makes. Us all feel better the. Something is being, investigated, I must say frankly given the, circumstances we've discussed tonight I'm not sure that I find this to be Particularly efficient use of limited federal resources your thoughts I, tend to agree with you I think there are a lot of cases that are you know where you do have some you know you, you do have some potential I just don't see it here I think. It may be was, a spur of, the moment, decision maybe somebody read Timothy. Tyson's. Which again now questions have been called about what? He but, he found in that book and said oh okay we have. A confession here let's go after, this case well turns out they really did so I think somebody maybe didn't think to think this, through I understand why they're doing it, I, just think that that's the target is not the best target it this late day are there any state investigations, that that go back this far in any. Any part of the country. That that try, to, look at at circumstances that were, improperly handled at the time or is this strictly As far as you? Know a federal effort I. Don't know then he stayed investigations going on, certainly there, are cases going back even further but, you you, have to look at examples, like you, know holocaust guy now that's being you know ninety five year old that's. Being sent back, to Germany to, be tried so you know it does happen. But I can't think of any state investigations go to go, back that far The the circumstances of course of the. The, till, case I suppose we're we're instrumental given that it was nineteen fifty five and of course I I don't recall if this was before or after the. Montgomery Alabama bus boycott which really vaulted, Dr Martin Luther King junior to national prominence. Do you recall there two are linked together, Dr TRM Howard, we talked about last, time was a prominent civil rights bigger in Mississippi well anyway he went on. A national speaking tour only. Three days after the jury's acquittal he predicted. That, it, was going to. Be an acquittal in ROY Wilkins. The n. w. c. p. basically said I, want you, to go around the country he was, getting crowds, and cities like Baltimore Madison, Square Garden, ten twenty thousand people bigger crowds than anyone really had gotten in recent. Memory for a, civil rights 'cause, it was building up a lot of pressure. Was attacking the FBI well anyway A lesser known part of it tour was. In November twenty, seventh nineteen fifty five in Montgomery Alabama, and his host, was Martin Luther King then unknown nationally Rosa Parks. Was in the, audience, and three days later Rosa Parks refused to her seat she, made quite clear, that the reason she refused to give up her seat was. She was thinking of? Emmett till well Howard speech. Only three days before that had been the focus that had been the first event. Montgomerie, to, really focus on that issue so they the the issues you know the till case I think you can find it pretty clear link to the Montgomery. Bus boycott and of course then the, decision was to organize a movement around Rosa. Parks action and king was chosen to head, that we're going, to come back and, talk more about that with our guest David Beethoven again he's the author of. TRM Howard will reintroduce you. To him as well and be back in a, moment If you have freedom of speech My concern is sucker minnows talks.

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09:15 min | 2 years ago

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"Welcome back to Jim, Bohannon show with our guest David veto a research fellow at the independent institute and a professor of history. At, the university, of Alabama Tuscaloosa Abby co, author, of TRM Howard. Doctor. Entrepreneur and civil rights pioneer we're talking about a reopening of. The Emmett till murder case yes of the sixty three years ago Now Clearly as you note witnesses potential defendants in the like in many, cases, dead this is a test of the Justice department charge of investigating long ago burgers that are thought to have been racially motivated and the Justice. Department in the last ten, years it's efforts that led to five successful prosecutions glue that of Edgar Ray killing involved in the murders of the three civil rights workers in Mississippi who died in. Prison this past, year, that of, course was the subject of the, movie Mississippi burning starring Gene, Hackman which some of you may have seen over the. Years so the last successful prosecution came eight years ago when a former Alabama state trooper was convicted of manslaughter for the killing of one Jimmy, Lee Jackson protesters debt led to the Selma to Montgomery March again to the Extent that that that the, law. Still applies that's fine and good in the case of murder I don't suppose that there is ever a statute of limitations is there now I'm. Not a lawyer but no, I don't I don't believe there is then again there's also the the other notion that there are federal civil rights laws involved here that in fact it would be. Quite possible to, be, tried twice, in one of these cases once, for the state law of, committing murder and once for the federal law involving the. Violation of someone's civil rights and I believe the courts have held that such trials are for two different crimes and therefore do not constitute double, jeopardy that's as I recall my my memory of the reading of this So in other words it's not an academic, exercise are, accurate things that presumably can be done in the Emmys case and there would potentially be. A lot of cases. Out there of course we're, talking like you said about a sixty three year old case and in that particular case I only, know one, person that. Could be prosecuted all the. Law enforcement, people are gone and again there was a cover up you know there were there were employees black, employees of milem and Brian who were involved in the crime they were pretty much compelled to participate my wife and I interviewed wanted them before he died but they're all gone now and you. Know the people that covered up are pretty much all gone but there are many read more recent cases you know in. The sixties for example where a lot of people still are around So this evidence continuing and again the the pickings as, you might expect so much slim but nonetheless have been some cases which, in fact, there've been a successful reopening the Justice department Had this new inquiry first. Reported by the Associated Press last began, a significant rule of the review of the till case forty years ago prosecutors audibly determined that the statute of limitations let them, with Emily charges they could pursue in a federal court be. FBI, conducted an inquiry which included an exclamation. Of the immortals body from an Illinois cemetery for about two, years to settle whether there were any state crimes that could still be prosecuted I I'm not. Sure other than than murder I'm. Not sure what crimes we could be talking about here and it was interesting that prosecutors, determined that the statute of limitations had left without, any charges they could pursue a federal court If I'm not mistaken anybody involved, in this had already been tried for murder in a state court and acquitted and of course. Any retrial would be double jeopardy If there's no federal Charge that that is, still around since obviously then statutes of limitations apply to the the civil rights laws that we discussed a second ago while I five. This of academic interest I'm not quite sure where the FBI is looking. Into this at all Well you do have Caroline like I said Brian Dunham and she was never tried, that would be a case you could, bring, high I unless we get a confession from her or something like that I think that that extremely unlikely, but I suppose there's a possibility and it's probably the main reason they. Reopened this investigation, I, would I would guess in that, particular case again this is a case of of Justice delayed beyond the point of of reasonably, getting anything done and well I suppose it. Makes us all feel better that something is being investigated I must say frankly given the circumstances we've, discussed tonight, I'm not sure that I find this to be a particularly efficient use, of limited federal resources your thoughts I tend to agree with you I think there are a lot of cases that are that you, know where you do have some you know you do have some potential I just. Don't see it here I think it may be was a spur. Of the moment decision maybe somebody, read Timothy Tyson sports which again now questions have been called about what he but he found in. That book and said oh okay we, have, a confession here let's go after this case well turns out they really did so I think somebody maybe, didn't think to think this through I understand why they're doing it I. Just think that, that's, the target is not the best, target at this late day are there any state investigations that that go back this far in, any any part of the country that that. Try to look at at circumstances that were improperly handled at the time or is this strictly as, far as, you know a federal effort I don't know of any? State investigations going on certainly there are cases going, back even further But you have to look at examples like know holocaust. Guy now that's, being ninety five, year old that's being sent back to Germany. To be tried so you. Know it does happen but I can't think of. Any state investigations go go back that far The the circumstances of. Course of the the? Till case I suppose we're. We're instrumental given that it was nineteen fifty five and of course I don't recall. If, this was before or after the Montgomery Alabama bus boycott which really vaulted Dr. Martin Luther King junior to national prominence do you recall there two are. Linked together Dr TRM, Howard we talked about last time was a. Prominent civil rights bigger in Mississippi anyway he, went on a, national speaking, tour only three days after the jury's acquittal he predicted that it was going to be an acquittal. In ROY Wilkins the NWC. Basically said I want you to go around the, country, he was getting crowds in cities like Baltimore Madison, Square Garden. You know ten twenty thousand people bigger crowds than anyone really had gotten in recent memory. For a civil rights 'cause it, was building up a lot of pressure was. Attacking the FBI well anyway A lesser known part of it tour was in November twenty. Seven nineteen fifty, five in Montgomery Alabama and his host, was Martin Luther, King then unknown nationally Rosa Parks was in the. Audience and three, days later Rosa Parks refused to grow up her seat she, made quite clear, that the reason she refused to give up her seat was. She was thinking of? Emmett till well Howard speech. Only. Three days before that had been the focus bad had been the first event. Montgomerie, to really focus on that issue so they the issues you know the till. Case I think you can find a pretty clear link to the Montgomery. Bus boycott and of, course then the decision was to organize a. Movement around Rosa Parks action and king was, chosen to head, that we're, gonna come back and talk more about that with our guest David beta again he's the author of. TRM Howard will reintroduce you. To him as well and be back in a, moment Your place to talk you have freedom of speech My concern is Sacremento Chechen talk, six, fifty higher, like say open. Ideas Sacramento's talk station Looking for a, Bank that.

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08:44 min | 2 years ago

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"Welcome back to Jim Bohannon, show with our guest David veto a research fellow at the dependent institute and professor of history at. The, university of, Alabama Tuscaloosa Abby co author, of, TRM Howard doctor. Entrepreneur. And civil rights pioneer we're talking about a reopening of the Emmett till murder case yes of, sixty three years ago Now Clearly as you note witnesses potential defendants in the like in many, cases dead this is A test of the Justice department charge of. Investigating long ago murders that, are thought to have been racially motivated and the Justice department in the last ten years it's efforts have led to five successful prosecutions glue that of Edgar Ray killing. Involved in the, murders of the, three civil rights workers Nimitz sippy, who died in prison this, past year that of course was the subject of the. Movie Mississippi burning starring Gene Hackman which some of you may have seen over the years so the last successful prosecution came eight years ago when, a former Alabama state trooper was convicted of manslaughter for the. Killing, of one Jimmy Lee Jackson or protesters debt led to. The Selma to Montgomery. March again to the extent, that that that the law still applies that's fine and good in the case of murder I don't suppose that there is ever a statute of, limitations. Is there Now I'm not a lawyer. But no I, don't I don't, believe there is then again there's, also the the other notion, that there are federal civil rights laws involved here that. In fact it would be quite possible to be tried twice in one of these cases once for the state law of committing murder and once, for the federal law involving the violation of someone's civil rights. And, I believe the courts have held that such trials are. For two different crimes. And therefore do not constitute. Double jeopardy that's as I recall my memory of the reading. Of this So in other words it's not an academic exercise our act, your things that presumably can. Be done in the in these cases there would potentially be a lot, of cases out there of course we're talking like you said about a, sixty three, year old case and in that particular case I, only know one person, that could, be prosecuted. All the law enforcement people. Are gone, and again there was a cover up you know there were there were employees black employees of milem, and Brian who were involved in the crime they were pretty much compelled to participate and my wife and I interviewed one of them before he died but they're all gone now and you know. The people that covered up are pretty much all gone but there are many read more recent cases you know in the. Sixties for example where a lot of people still are around So this this evidence continuing and again the the pickings as you, might expect are so much slim but nonetheless been some cases which in, fact there, have been a successful reopening the Justice department Had this new inquiry first reported by the Associated Press. Last began a significant rule of the review of the till case fourteen years ago prosecutors ultimately determined, that the statute of limitations let them without, any charges they could pursue in a federal court The FBI still conducted an inquiry which included an, exclamation of the immortals body from an Illinois cemetery for about two years to settle whether there. Were any state crimes that could. Still be prosecuted I. I'm not sure other than than murder I'm not sure what crimes we could be talking about here and it was. Interesting that prosecutors determined that the statute of limitations had left without any charges they could pursue a federal court If I'm not mistaken anybody involved in this had already, been tried for murder in a state court and acquitted and of course any retrial would be. Double jeopardy if there's no federal Charge that that's still around since obviously then statutes of limitations apply. To the the civil, rights laws that that we discussed a second ago while I find this of academic interest. I'm not quite sure whether the FBI is looking. Into this at all Well you do have Caroline like I said Brian Dunham and she was never tried, that would be a case you could, bring, high I unless we get a confession from her or something like that I think that that extremely. Unlikely but I suppose it's a possibility and it's probably, the main reason they. Reopened this investigation, I, would I would guess in that, particular case again this is a case of of Justice delayed beyond the point of of of, reasonably getting anything done and while I suppose. It makes us all feel better something is being investigated I must say frankly given the circumstances we've, discussed tonight I'm not sure that I find this to be a, particularly efficient use of limited federal resources your thoughts I tend to agree with you I think there are a lot of cases that are. Where you do have some you know you you do have some potential I just don't see it. Here I think it may be was a spur of the moment. Decision maybe somebody read Timothy Tyson's, sport which again now questions have been called about what he but he found in that book and. Said oh okay we have a confession, here, let's go after this case well turns out they really did so I think somebody maybe didn't think. To think this through I understand why they're doing it, I just think that. That's the target, is, not the best target at this, late day are there any state investigations that they'd go back this far in any any part, of the country that that tried to look. At at circumstances that were improperly handled at the time or is this strictly as, far as you, know a a federal effort I don't know of any state. Investigations going on certainly there are cases going back even further but you you have to. Look at examples like you know holocaust guy now that's being you know ninety five year old that's being sent back to Germany to be tried so you know it does happen but? I can't think of any state investigations go to, go back that far The the circumstances of course of the the till case I suppose we're we're instrumental given that it was nineteen fifty five and of course I I don't recall if this was before or after. The Montgomery Alabama bus, boycott which really vaulted Dr Martin Luther King. Junior to national prominence do you recall there, are two are, linked together, Dr TRM Howard we talked about last time was a prominent civil rights figuring Mississippi way he went. On a national speaking tour only three days after. The jury's acquittal he predicted that, it, was going to be an acquittal in ROY Wilkins. The NWPP basically said I want you to, go around, the country he was getting crowds and, cities like, Baltimore Madison Square Garden you, know ten, twenty thousand people bigger crowds than anyone really had gotten in recent memory. For a civil, rights 'cause it, was building up a lot of pressure he. Was attacking the FBI well anyway A lesser known part of it tour was in November twenty seventh, nineteen fifty five, in Montgomery Alabama and his host was. Martin Luther King, then unknown nationally Rosa Parks was in the audience. And three days, later, Rosa Parks refused to up her seat she made quite clear, that the reason, she refused to give up her seat was she was thinking. Of Emmett till well Howard speech only three days before. That had been the focus dad had been the first event Montgomerie to really focus on that issue so they the issues you know the till case I think. You can find it pretty clear link to the Montgomery bus boycott and. Of course then the, decision was to organize a movement around Rosa. Parks action and king was chosen to head, that we're going, to come, back and talk more about that with our guest David Beethoven again he's the author of TRM Howard. Will reintroduce you to him as.

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09:35 min | 2 years ago

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"To be talking about the Justice department reopening an inquiry into the murder of, Emmett till that investigation to be discussed with us, tonight by, David Beethoven research fellow at, the, independent institute a. Professor of history at the university of. Alabama Tuscaloosa. Co author of TRM Howard doctor entrepreneur and civil rights pioneer good. Evening Mr. Beethoven's good evening Tell us if for those who are not the imminently familiar that, most of us can remember the name of, of immaterial and it had. To, do with a terrible racial injustice and frankly that's probably about as far as most of us, get in terms of of just exactly what the name implies well it's a long story, so I'll give you the, bare, bones, version Emmett till, was, a, fourteen, year old. Boy from Chicago this is a nineteen fifty. Five and every summer or so he would come, to Mississippi to visit his great uncle who lived on, a cotton plantation and was picking cotton and he helped them out was hard work but he came every year well one year he he came, until and a bunch of friends went to a, store crossroads, store and there was a, beautiful, white woman behind. The counter and we don't know exactly What happened but I think, the friends sorta dared him. To go in there and, and talk tour we don't know what he said it wasn't anything you know might have been something as simple as he you know he ended money tour directly rather than put it put it on. The counter, who knows exactly what happened some people say that he gave a wolf whistle when he left but yeah we. P, p e left well, word got around someone passed the message to. The husband of this woman behind the counter he he. Was offended by it he went by to his brother who. Was a real tough me character and said you know what do I do and his brothers said you got, to get revenge and so they kidnap till, the middle of the night. And, he apparently did not satisfy them they they you know they were going to beat him up, maybe but he didn't satisfy them so they took them, around they beat him severely And then eventually they killed him they, dumped him, in Tallahassee river but just through some fate basically, there was it snagged on. A vine underneath he was. Tied to a cotton gin old cotton big big things hope was. To conceal, their crime to get them. Into, the bottom of the river but it's snag like I said a fisherman sought the body. Was, horribly horribly disfigured the two. Brothers admitted that they take until they claim they let him go but they were, charged with, murder put on trial? And acquitted in less, than an hour and the. Jury joked member of the jury joke that we would have taken we wouldn't have taken that. Long we, haven't gone, out to get some pop so that's the, a rougher you the story. But there's a lot more, to it than that Of course. There's a reason why it isn't. In the immediate familiarity with most Americans in. That it took place sixty three years ago, this was nineteen fifty five that this took place Yes It, was and it was on the eve of the civil rights. Movement, well they're always have been civil rights more was on the eve of the. Movement we associate with Martin Luther King in played big role in spurring that movement, on In in any event certainly a lot of. Time has passed I'm not even sure how many of the defendants are still alive The only one that I know of now were it was a conspiracy there were more, than two people involved that has been shown, only possible, person to charge that I. Know of is the wife that you. Know pretty lady that was behind the counter Juanita Juanita Bryant Donna Was in her eighties I frankly don't think, that will, happen But that is the only person that could. Possibly be, charged at, this point who's still alive, was involved they say of course the Justice delayed is Justice deferred this particular case while I. Certainly of academic interest to find out what actually took place I'm not sure what the purpose of this particular investigation is given as you say that the wheels of Justice apparently don't have. A lot of targets to turn toward Well. I had a little bit of, an idea on that she was interviewed by historian named Timothy Tyson who did extensive interviews with, her and actually you know had some interesting. Things to say about black. Friends she had ad is child and various things like, that but one of the things she said to him was sort, of admitted that, she was knew about the crime and so forth had some involvement in it but then when that was. They've they've, looked at, that now and it is, historian has hours of interview with her on tape but he did get that part on tape. So it's just his word so I just don't see her being prosecuted because it you know if she did say he didn't get it and he you know he You know in the evenings evidence the, FBI needs evidence but I think that's why the case was reopened, because of, that One eight six six, five o. JIMBO is our number one, eight six, six five zero five, four six two six. It it did of course staggered the the nation at the time If you were, around, that time. You may recall that, the the boy had an open coffin Funeral I think that was at the insistence of the, mother if I'm not. Mistaken to to let, the world see what they, did to, my boy something of that nature and although the the the photographs got widespread publication but they're they're out there and they got. A lot of play in, the black oppress on the cover of jet magazine, and Chicago defender so people like Mohammed Ali if you're a young black. Person at that time you good chance you saw. Those. Photos in, it at, a, big. Impact I have seen, the photos they they're pretty gruesome okay I mean there's no no no, getting around that fact and the the open cashier was probably Something that. Was was worth doing not just to quote for. The. Shock value, as much, I, guess. As to to make. Manifest what it actually happened to immaterial Now. The Justice, department has not commented on all of this but it appears that the government chose to devote new. Attention to the case after the, central with us you know as you mentioned Carolyn Bryant, Donham recanted, part of her account of what actually happened at that time Again I think the facts at the time pretty much spoke for themselves when when the the person on the jury said that we wouldn't have taken a whole hour to. Acquit we hadn't gone out for soda. Pop so, again I'm not exactly sure quite what Is. I guess, to be to be accomplished here Baby I grant we, should not forget part of our our terrible past but there aren't a whole lot of of lynchings cross burnings in the like taking place these days Mississippi the the state at which this happened today has the highest number, of elected officials have, color in the entire country not. Just per capita but the the the highest number so perhaps this might. Have had greater importance that had been brought forward let's. Say in nineteen sixty five or nineteen seventy five then in two thousand eighteen you're nineteen fifty five when people like Howard written about and others were pointing out that the evidence was that there. Were more than two, people involved, and so forth and I think they're. You. Know that was the time to do, it now I will. Say this several. Years ago the FBI did reopen the, investigation uncovered a lot of material we ever Pretty pretty good idea what happened pretty good idea who was involved so. That is been incredible, useful now, that we have a bigger picture of. What. Actually happened there and the cover up, that did occur at the time the sheriff local law enforcement and others One eight six six five zero JIMBO, our number one eight six six five zero five four six two six we're talking with David Beethoven he's a research. Fellow at the independent institute a professor of history of the university. Of Alabama Tuscaloosa the Izzy co author of the book TRM Howard doctor entrepreneur and the civil. Rights pioneer and we'll come back and talk some more.

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"Welcome back to Jim Bohannon show with our guest David Beethoven research fellow at. The, dependent institute and a professor of history at the university of Alabama. Tuscaloosa Abby co author of TRM Howard doctor entrepreneur and civil rights pioneer we're talking about a reopening of, the Emmett. Till murder case. Yes, of, the, sixty three, years, ago Now Clearly as you note witnesses potential defendants in the like in many, cases dead this is A test of the Justice department charge of investigating long ago murders that are thought to have been, racially, motivated and The Justice department, in the last ten years it's efforts led to five successful prosecutions glued that. Of Edgar Ray, Killen involved in me murders of the three civil, rights workers in the Mississippi, who died in prison this past year that of course, was the subject of the movie Mississippi burning starring Gene Hackman, which some of you may have seen over the years So the last. Successful prosecution came eight years ago when a former Alabama, state trooper was convicted of manslaughter for the killing of one Jimmy Lee Jackson a protesters, death led to the Selma to Montgomery March again to the extent that that. That the law, still applies that's fine and good in the case, of murder I don't suppose, that there is ever a statute of limitations is there Now I'm not a lawyer but no I don't I don't believe there then again there's also the the other. Notion that there are federal civil rights laws involved here that in. Fact it would be quite possible to be tried twice in one of these cases once for the state law of committing murder and once for, the, federal law involving the violation of someone's civil rights and. I, believe the courts have held that such trials are for. Two different crimes and. Therefore do not constitute double. Jeopardy that's as I recall my my memory of the reading. Of this So in other words it's, not an academic exercise our actor things that presumably can be done in the in these cases there would potentially be a lot of cases out there of course we're talking like you said about. A sixty three year old case and in that particular case I only know one person that potentially could be all the. Law enforcement people are gone and again there was a cover up You know there were. There were employees black, employees of milem and Brian. Who were involved in the crime they were pretty much compelled to participate, my wife and I interviewed one before he died but. They're all, gone now, and you know the people are covered up are pretty. Much all gone but there, are many sort of read more recent cases you know in the sixties for example where. A lot, of people still are around So the evidence continuing and again the the picking, as you might expect are somewhat slim but nonetheless have, been some, cases Mitch in, fact there, have been a successful reopening the Justice department Had this new inquiry first reported by the Associated Press last. Began a significant rule of the review of the till case forty years ago prosecutors ultimately, determined that the statute of limitations, let. Them with, any charges they could pursue in a federal court Be FBI conducted an inquiry which included an, exclamation of the immortals body from an Illinois cemetery for about two years to settle whether there were any state crimes that could still. Be prosecuted I I'm. Not sure other than than murder I'm not sure what crimes we could be talking about here and it was interesting. That prosecutors determined that the statute of limitations had left without any charges they could pursue in a federal court If I'm not mistaken anybody involved, in this had already been tried for murder in a state court and acquitted and of course in the retrial would be double jeopardy If there's no federal Charge that that is, still around since obviously the statute of limitations apply to the the civil rights laws that that we discussed second ago while I find, this of academic interest I'm not quite sure why the FBI is looking. Into this at all Well you do have Caroline like I said Brian Dunham and she was never, tried that would be case you could bring I I unless we get a confession, from her or something like that I think that that extremely unlikely but I suppose it's a possibility and it's probably the main reason, they reopened this investigation I would I would guess in that particular case Again this. Is a case of Justice delayed beyond the point of of of reasonably getting anything done and, while I suppose, it makes us all feel. Better that something is being investigated. I must say frankly given the circumstances we've discussed tonight I'm not. Sure that I find this to, be a, particularly efficient use of limited federal resources your thoughts I tend to agree with you I, think, there, are a lot of cases. That are. You know where you do have some you know. You you do have some potential I just don't see. It here I think it may. Be, was a spur of, the moment decision, maybe somebody, read Timothy Tyson sports which. Again now questions have been called about. What he, but he found in that book and said oh okay we. Have a confession here let's go, after this case Lau turns out they really did I think somebody maybe didn't think to think this, through I understand why they're doing it I just think. That that's the target is not, the best, target at this late day are there any state investigations that go back this far in, any, any, part of the country that. That tried. To look at at circumstances that were improperly handled. At the time or is this strictly as far as. You know a a federal effort I don't know of? Any state investigations going on certainly there are cases, going back even further You know but you you have to look at examples like you know holocaust. Guy now that's, being ninety five, year old that's being sent back to Germany. To be tried so you know. It does happen but I can't think of any. State investigations go to go back that far The the circumstances of course of the? Till. Case I suppose we're we're instrumental given that it was nineteen fifty five and of, course I I don't recall if this was before or after the Montgomery Alabama bus boycott which really vaulted Dr Martin Luther King junior to national prominence. Do you recall the two are linked, together Dr TRM Howard we talked about last. Time was a prominent civil rights figuring Mississippi, anyway he went, on a, national speaking tour only three days after the jury's acquittal he predicted that it was going to be. An acquittal in ROY Wilkins. The n. w. c. p. who said I want, you, to go, around the, country he was getting crowds and cities, like Baltimore, Madison Square Garden you know ten twenty thousand people bigger crowds than anyone really had gotten in recent. Memory for a civil rights 'cause, it was building up a lot of pressure. Was attacking the FBI well anyway A lesser known part of it tour was. In November twenty, seventh nineteen fifty five in Montgomery. Alabama and his, host was Martin Luther King then unknown nationally Rosa. Parks was in, the, audience and three days later Rosa Parks refused to per seat, she made quite, clear that the reason she refused to give up her seat. Was she was thinking of Emmett till well? Howard. Speech only three days before that had been the focus dad had been the first, event Montgomerie to really focus on that issue so they the issues you know. The till case I think you can find a pretty clear link to. The Montgomery bus boycott and of course, then the decision was to organize a move. Around Rosa Parks action and king was chosen, to head that, we're going, to come back and talk more about that with our guest David beta again he's the author of. TRM Howard will reintroduce you. To him as well and be back in a, moment Laura Ingram idea of, apologizing apologize say something incorrect on the other side is trying to racial is something they should issue the apology I. Would demand. That, Andrew gillum and all these people should apologize Laura Ingram until two on news and information five.

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09:41 min | 2 years ago

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"Jimbohannonshow, dot com you can follow me on Twitter at, jimbotalks says tonight we're gonna be talking about the Justice department reopening an inquiry into the murder of Emmett till let investigate should be discussed with, us tonight by David Beethoven research fellow at the independent. Institute a professor of history at the, university of Alabama. Tuscaloosa Biko author of TRM Howard doctor. Entrepreneur and civil rights pioneer good evening Mr. Beethoven's good evening, tell us if for those who are not the imminently familiar I think most of us can remember the name of of. Immaterial and, it had to do with a terrible racial injustice and frankly that's probably about as far as most of us. Get in. Terms of of just exactly what the name implies Well it's a. Long story so I'll give you the bare bones, version Emmett till was a fourteen, year, old boy from, Chicago, this, was, a nineteen. Fifty five and every summer or. So he would come to Mississippi to visit his, great uncle who lived on a cotton plantation and, was picking cotton and he'd help them out was hard work but he came every year well one year he he came and until a bunch, of friends went to a store crossroads store and there, was a beautiful white woman behind the, counter and we. Don't know exactly what happened but I. Think the friends sorta dared him to go in there and, talk to her we don't know what he said it wasn't anything you know might have been something as simple as he. You know, he handed money tour directly rather than put it you know put it on the counter who knows exactly what Happened some. People say that he gave a wolf whistle when he. Left but yeah well he he left well word got around. Someone passed the message to the husband of this woman behind the counter he he was offended by he went, by to his brother who was a real, tough me character and said. You, know what I do and his brothers said you got to get revenge and so they kidnap, till the middle of the night and he apparently did, not satisfy them they they you know. They were going to beat him up maybe but he didn't satisfy them so they took. Them around they beat him severely. And then eventually they killed him they dumped him in the Tallahassee river, but just, through some fate basically there was a it snagged, on a, vine underneath he was tied, to a cotton gin Old cotton big big things, hope was to conceal, their crime to get him. Into the bottom of the river but it snagged like I said a fishermen sought the body. Was horribly, horribly disfigured, the two brothers admitted that they take until, they claim they let him. Go but they were charged, with murder put on trial and acquitted in less than. An hour and the jury joked member, of the jury joke that, we, would've taken we wouldn't have taken that long we. Hadn't gone out to get some. Pop So that's the. Rough version of the story but. There's a lot more to it than that Of course there's a reason why. It isn't the immediate familiarity with most Americans. In that it took place sixty three years. Ago this was nineteen fifty-five that this took place Yes correct It was and it was on the eve of the civil. Rights, movement well they're always have been civil rights was on the eve of. The movement we associate with Martin Luther King and played a big role. In spurring that? Movement, on In in any event certainly a lot. Of time has passed I'm not even sure how many of the defendants are still alive The only. One that I know of and there were it was a conspiracy there were more than, two people involved that has been shown the, only possible, person to charge that I. Know of is the wife that you. Know pretty lady that was behind the counter Juanita Juanita Bryant Donna Was in her eighties I frankly don't think, that will, happen But that is the only person that. Could possibly be, charged at, this point is still alive, involved will they say of course the Justice. Delayed is Justice deferred is particular case While I certainly find it of economic interest to find out what actually, took place I'm not sure what the purpose of this particular investigation is given as you say that. The wheels of, Justice apparently, don't have a lot of, targets to turn toward Well I. Had a little bit of an idea that she was interviewed by story in named Timothy Tyson who did extensive interviews with her, and actually you know had. Some interesting things to say about, black French she added a child and various things like that but one of the things she, said to him was sort of admitted that she was knew. About the crime and so forth had some involvement in, it but then when that was they've they've looked at that now, and it, is historian has hours of interview with her on tape but he didn't get that part. On tape just his word so I just don't see her being prosecuted because it you know if she did say he didn't get it and he you know he You know, and he, needs The FBI needs evidence but I think that's why the case, was reopened, because of that All right one eight six six five o.. JIMBO is our number one eight six six five zero five four six two six. It it did of course staggered the the nation at the time If you were around that time. You may recall that, the the boy had an open coffin Funeral I think that, was at the insistence of the mother if I'm not mistaken To. To let the world, see what they did to, my boy, something of that nature and. Although the the the photographs got widespread publication but they're they're out there and They got a, lot of play, in the black oppressed on the cover of jet magazine. And, the Chicago defender so people like Mohammed Ali if. You're. A young, black person at. That time you good chance you saw those photos and it had a big impact I I have seen the photos they they're pretty gruesome okay I, mean there's, no no getting around that fact and the the open cashier was probably something that was was worth doing not just to quote, for the shock value. As much I guess, as to to make manifest, what had, actually happened to immaterial Now the. Justice. Department has, not commented on. All of this but, it appears that the government chose to devote new attention to the case after the central with us as you mentioned Carolyn Bryant, Donham recanted, part of her account of what actually happened at that time Again I think the facts at the time pretty much spoke for themselves when when the the person on the jury said that we wouldn't have taken a whole hour to. Acquit we had gone out for a soda. Pop so, again I'm not exactly sure quite what Is. I guess, to be to be accomplished here Baby grant we, should not forget part of our our terrible past but there aren't a whole lot of of lynchings cross. Burnings in the like taking place these days Mississippi the state in which this happened today has the the highest number, of elected officials of, color in the entire country not. Just per capita but the the the highest number so perhaps this might. Have had greater importance that had been brought forward let's. Say in nineteen sixty five or nineteen seventy five then in two thousand eighteen you're nineteen fifty five when people like Howard written about and others were pointing out that the evidence was that there. Were more than two people involved and so forth and I think. You. Know that was the time to do, it now I will. Say this several years ago the FBI did reopen the investigation uncovered a lot of material And we have a pretty pretty good idea what happened pretty good idea who was involved so that is. Been incredibly useful now that, we have a bigger picture of what. Actually. Happened there and the cover up the, did occur at the time sheriff local law enforcement and others Yep Eight six six five o. JIMBO our number one eight six six five zero five four six two. Six we're talking with David. Beethoven he's a research fellow at the independent, institute a professor of history of the university of. Alabama. Tuscaloosa the is co author of the book TRM Howard doctor entrepreneur and the civil rights pioneer and we'll come back and talk some more.

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08:37 min | 2 years ago

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"John John Batchelor show August nineteen fifty five the time is endless because the crime the murder of Emmett till. A very young man from Chicago who was visiting for the summer that murder has now recently, been, reopened by. The United. States government by the federal authorities new information and also this long long trail of feeling that Justice, was not done the murder of. Till and the murder of other African Americans during this period of civil rights conflict to help. Me understand this, story I welcome David Biteau David is the author with Linda Royster by, to- of TRM Howard, Dr entrepreneur, civil rights pioneer Dr Howard got intimately involved scarily involved in the denial of Justice after, the murder of Emmett till, David a very good evening to. You congratulations for your biography of Dr Howard and to understand the, scale, of his. Heroism we. Need to understand why Justice is reopening the till case the the murder the horrible murder of a, young man good evening to you. David why did they reopen Well that's a little bit of. A mystery because there wasn't FBI investigation about twelve years ago that you know, that turned up some I think what why they reopened the case at this, time was a historian a lot of respect for named Timothy Tyson did. He, a book about the case interviewed Amatil or the. Caroline Dunham Bryant who was a key figure in the. Case and she a according to Tyson. Basically admitted that she was involved in the crime now she's still alive well. Turns out that Tyson didn't have that on tape she said that to me, didn't get it on tape he had hours of interviews with her so I'm skeptical on, that revelation that this is actually gonna lead to anything now there were a, number of people involved in the murder, of Emmett till but, as. Far as I can Determine, all of them have passed away The reopening of the case though points us. All to, a time in America's history a very very grim time when civil rights was extremely scary for people living, anywhere in the country Chicago to Mississippi but especially, for people who spoke up, about injustice the all white jury acquitted the two men who were. Involved in, in the murder right away in fact they made the made jokes about it. About why it took him so long. 'cause they pause to drink, soda pop that was laughter. And Mississippi but it was a bro there were broken hearts in Chicago. And Dr Howard faced? Up to it what did he do who was who was TRM Howard and how did? You, get involved in the till case well Dr Howard. Was probably the wealthiest person. In Mississippi he'd been born in poverty he came there to be cheap surgeon of hospital, black-owned hospital that provided cooperative medical care thousands, of, people he branched out into civil Oh rights and hit it a very large group called the regional council of, negro leadership and they had thousands of, numbers and they would have annual rallies and Mississippi but. They get, ten thousand people to hear people like Thurgood Marshall and singers like Mahalia Jackson they did a successful boycott, of service stations refuse to provide restrooms for blacks, this was in nineteen fifty, two so he was a well known civil rights figure he was. On a, visit to Chicago at the time that Emmett till disappear kidnapping of Emmett till. Wasn't even knowing that it was a. Murderer yet and Howard said, if this boy is harmed. And it was a boy is fourteen years old if he is harmed. Bill be hell to? Pay Mississippi I got a lot of coverage and then they actually brought charges against these? Two, brothers half brothers who were who had kidnapped till. They claimed they'd let him. Go but the body turned up in the in the river and the Tallahassee river just, sort of a fluke dot cook got snagged On some some you know underwater grow and the body was horribly disfigured, and a charges were brought against the two brothers which was actually something remarkable. Because usually white person killed the. Black person there weren't even charges and there was. A trial less than a month after the murder in some in the small town of Sumner Mississippi Dr Howard was involved in trying to find evidence. That not only, against the two brothers but indicating that other people other whites and implacable -ployees. Of the defendants were involved, in the crime and Emmett. Till mothers stayed with them and, he provided or an armed escort every day of the, trial and his home was a refuge for black reporters for witnesses and he. Conducted his own sort of underground investigation working in cooperation with prosecutors trying to prod them off and at the time. Was he He under constant threat were there because I've read about the period. After about ten years, later there were bomb threats routinely cars driving by in the middle of the night did that sort of thing happened to. Dr Howard it did and he was heavily armed and he had the advantage of, living in a town and, all black town amount by which was unique because blacks there could boat they had a sheriff they had the, mayor and that's where tells mothers state to all black so if, you were white you showed up in that community you would, stick out like a sore thumb also all the members of Howard's organization including Howard himself were heavily armed yeah the Thompson submachine gun and White person wanted to make trouble there would have, to get in close 'cause they'd stick out and they and and and people. There were more than ready to fire back and we're heavily on that was part of the issue but I think also that one Howard ventured out he had a heavy heavy armed protection but certainly his, life was threatened. People see used to. Say the shortest life expectancy of any person in Mississippi at the time. This is the Eisenhower administration, nineteen fifty five and coming up. To the the second term was there a. Nationalization, of this story did the did the White House comment was Dr. Howard, in contact with the president He was crowding the Eisenhower administration at at this point Dr Howard is on the verge of, becoming a, Republican, 'cause if anything the Democrats far far less willing to get involved in. Civil rights issues at that at that time so he was. Trying to get the Justice department to look into the case this was after the acquittal of the defendant saying what door other people involved he was presenting evidence to the FBI pushing that that. That line it was nationalized in that sense because, after the acquittal defendants Howard went on, a national speaking tour would get. Crowds of ten thousand people twenty thousand people Madison Square Garden in Baltimore in Los Angeles and. Focused on the case in other unsolved cases in the manner that j. Edgar Hoover getting. Involved he said look you can solve? A crime based. On wreckage of a plane right there the I would boast about Why can't you ever seem to solve. A crime where. A black man or a black. Person is killed and eat hammered on so it was, nationalized. And one of the places he spoke was November. Twenty seven nineteen, fifty five in Montgomery Mississippi is host of Martin Luther King than a nationally unknown figure Rosa Parks. Was in the audience hammered the Emmett till case forty three days later Rosa. Parks when she refused to give up her seat said that she was thinking. Of Emmett till when she refused to go up or see the, book is TRM Howard Dr entrepreneurs civil rights pioneer David Baido and his off and as the author with Linda Royster Bida as a new, book about a very brave man lived a long time ago who I'm sure is listening from heaven right now as the Justice department looks again at the murder, the hate, crime, against Emmett till in August of nineteen fifty five I'm John bachelor this. Is the John Batchelor.

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"Just couldn't get conviction around speaking about this after the trial big crowds baltimore boston san francisco and he was drawing massive crowds in the north so a whole northern audience was hearing him in the month after and he was pressing for reopening the investigation forgetting the fbi involved and so forth but it didn't do any good now i gather that baltimore speech was particularly notable why well it was the first one after the trial was just a couple of days after the trial and it was something like it was like ten thousand see some of these spanning massive audience but anyway a one of the things that happened there is he said we got the movie the fbi story i think it just come out of the poor and it started with the fbi you know finding no hijacker by by looking at the wreckage right tracking down clues you said we have fbi that can do all this but they can never seem to be able to convict a white man in a black man is killed they just can't seem to do that and this is at the height of j edgar hoover's career he is g man he is a national hero nobody challenges him and hoover is mad and our keeps doing this in speeches and finally who were says i gotta right you know i gotta put this guy down and cooperates with hoover thurgood marshall they're working together because marshall things howard is a bit of a loose cannon now that's worth repeating for those who weren't paying attention thurgood marshall the man who led the fight that ultimately led the brown versus board of education that desegregated american schools who became the first black supreme court justice thurgood marshall was working with j edgar hoover to put down trm howard now that i've gotten maybe people to understand that they really did hear what you just said please continue well there's an interesting well it's still a little bit of a mystery because they were on friendly terms marshall right before the brown decision it's spoken in mumbai with their annual rally was only days before i believe they had a panel of lawyers and they were you know they were looking forward to it so it was a friendly relationship it seemed but howard had a good relationship with the head of the n w c p roy welcome but for some reason marshall didn't trust him marshall had a very good relationship with hoover any maintain this and i think part of it why's he figured if he can go to if he can have a good relationship to who can get favors he can get good things happening for black people you can go to and so he he's sort of wrote to hoover and says i agree you know you got to do something about this howard he called him a rugged individualist and he was doing this and it's in the fbi files what ultimately happened is hoover decided he had to ride an open letter to howard you wrote it but howard is traveling around didn't get the letter the letter was mailed to them i guess it was supposed to be mailed to them then it would appear in the press the next day but he was blindsided but he didn't back down and and huber's basically saying you're being unfair the fbi's dude got this great record and howard went back to it you said well you know you know he gave specifics why can't you find this i i can't you find that person but it was really this is the four kings and all his troubles at the fbi and this is one who was really at the height of his power we'll come back and talk some more with our guest he is dr david beethoven co author of t r m howard did you know all this stuff folks i didn't back in a moment i'm a one trick pony literally a show for kids parties enact to.

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02:40 min | 2 years ago

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"Leger with us on the jim bohannon show with dr david beethoven he's a professor of history of the university of alabama co author with his wife of t r m howard theodore roosevelt mason howard dr entrepreneur civil rights pioneer and as we will learn here in a moment to a man who did not mince words exactly this wasn't exactly a step and fetch it in terms of his language have a call from vicinity in cedar rapids iowa who calls in tonight and good evening welcome thank you jim before taking my call david english for the show and i have a very different question i i am trying to put together the reason why blacks in america from ats sixty into mid nineteen sixties they voted republican and i was just wondering what's mr howard's i i feel the asian what political affiliation was mr howard's dr howard's political affiliation was he was a republican his mentor was manny will mason a white doctor in murray kentucky mason's wife actually ran as a republican for congress and she was sort of howard's a mentor as well he ended up after he moved to chicago he ended up running as the republican candidate for congress and he lost badly he was her challenging the daley machine during that period the black representative of the daley machine but he but he remainder republican although you right here and i'll just quote again from the book trm howard he backed president franklin roosevelt but only conditionally once the economy improved the onus was on the president to quote to say this far and no farther to mob violence and other injustices which are forced up on black americans and if always simplifying a bit because he did have an interlude there where he was a republican in fact he campaigned i think he campaigned for hoover and then he he sort of had a time there where he was floating around and in mississippi for a brief time he was with the black democrats 'cause that was the only game in town and then he kind of return to the republican party after that and supported eisenhower he had here and i quote again from your book he had no time for the various quote boneheaded pussyfooting grafting.

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