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"This is the airplane geeks. Podcast HURRY MR. Educate and inform you explore and expand your passion for aviation into entertain. You a little along the way this episode. We talk about airport. Watch a group of airplane enthusiasts and photographers that have built a valuable relationship with their airport with law enforcement and with the community in the news we again look at the impact of the corona virus or Cova nineteen outbreak that is continuing to impact aviation. It's a developing story. We also touch on a southwest Boeing seven. Three seven with a fuselage rupture in someone who thought shooting at a police helicopter was a good idea. All that and more coming up right now. Welcome to the airplane Geeks podcast. This is episode five hundred ninety five of the show where we talk aviation. I'm Max flight in joining me. Is I David Vendor half our aviation historian and military aviation expert David and currently Temporarily unemployed well I am. I'm sheltering at home because museums closed like everybody else in the world. But I'm looking forward to a long conversation about everything we've wanted to know about Kuroda virus in aviation week to can't get away from it also with his Max Trescott each host of aviation news. Talk podcast he's a C- a five year. He's also an expert on the series aircraft. I Max Haiti. It's shelter in place Max here on the West Coast. We just had announcement a couple of hours ago that all six counties in the San Francisco area are ordered to stay at home. Which is where I've been for almost a week anyway. and I was looking at our lineup for Today and I'm kind of disappointed. I don't see a single seven thirty seven Max story in there. I think you're right. It's been overshadowed. We now know it can kill tanker and seven thirty seven stories. Yeah it's not pleasant though but yes well our guest. This episode is Peter Wagner. He's board president of or airport. Watch the airport. Watch website is ordeal airport. Watch DOT ORG. He's enjoyed aviation since he was young. And Peter started playing spotting in two thousand one at O'hare airport a now enjoys travelling to airports and air shows around the country photographing planes. His personal favorites are the seven four seven and C. Seventeen. But Pete enjoys all types of Aviation Peter. Welcome to the airplane Geeks podcast. Thank you good to be here. The I've always been fond of the C. Seventeen myself it's I Dunno it. Just sort of an impressive aircraft. What is it about the seventeen that attracts you? There's just something about that. They the pilots think their their fighter jets in there with their heads. Up Display and their At maneuverability narrow that just makes it a fun playing it just I've been on board quite often and For me it's just a fun place to To be part of great well coming up we're GONNA talk with Peter About plane spotting but also the relationship that spotters could have with With the airport and In a way that's productive beneficial for for everyone so that's going to be an interesting conversation but first we've got some of the aviation news from the past week. Which is David said is almost entirely about the corona virus. Why don't we get started with that? Is everyone ready ready from the West Ready? Once I get off all right first story this one comes from the point. Sky American Airlines will suspend all but three long-haul routes park most widebody jets. How Americans in all the airlines are getting pummeled. These days due to the Corona Virus American was flying one hundred fifty wide-body aircraft at the end of December. Now About one hundred and thirty five of them are going to go into temporary storage from March sixteenth. Which is today's we record. This through at least may six twenty twenty includes Airbus. A three thirties and Boeing seven. Six seven triple seven and seven eight seven models additionally Americans planning to retire. It's seven six seven fleet by May of this year at seven five seven fleet by mid twenty twenty one. So American is cutting its international capacity by seventy five percent oh hits And and American is not the only airline will mention some of the others but this is pretty drastic stuff while the story is from yesterday as we're recording here on Monday and I'm sure by the time people hear this things will be even worse. I read today that what United I think is pulling out. Fifty percent of their domestic capacity. In what now these stories really say is they're going to be a whole heck of a lot of pilots who've never been furloughed before who are going to be furloughed. I think it's been about eighteen years since You know the last big round of the furloughs people had a long time and you know the industry has been up until the right throughout most of that time and this is going to be a bit of a shock to everybody who is finally finally made it to the airlines and now find that they're not gonna be working for a while right. Delta Airlines announced that they're going to cut global capacity by forty percent park up to three hundred jets I saw a story today. Finnair is cutting their capacity by ninety percent. Starting April first reported by Melissa Garcia. And she mentions that they're gonNA keep critical air connections for Finland Limited to connections to Europe. And just one remaining intercontinental route to Japan so Yeah this is not good for the for the health of the airlines. Obviously of course other industries are also suffering and some with increasing impact lately but Peter Have you been out to the airport lately are you? Are you able to notice the change? Well I've noticed that they're running a lot of the bigger planes American united from Cancun and from the the spring break areas so when that season is over Where they're gonNA how they're going to switch that up. We don't know So it seemed like some of the bigger planes are getting filled that way but that will eventually had also but we also have had noticed of the You know Most of our European carriers are being restricted We do see SOM- and we Cargo for some reason. Kogyo is definitely picked up We've noticed interesting. Yeah I don't know why but We're getting they're sending Qatar is sending multiple planes two and three a day in some of the other We're seeing some carry that we normally haven't seen before Mainly from mob from Cincinnati Eighty is inciting multiple planes in the place. We haven't seen while we're starting to see now so interesting and I just saw a story. That Amazon is looking to hire one hundred thousand people which to me says they expect a huge increase in their business. Yeah that would make sense of If you can buy from Amazon instead of traveling to a to a local retailer or whatever probably a lot of people are going to start start doing that which of course just compounds the problem for small businesses and open the local retailers. Rockford is is in our area and they are doing quite a bit of expansion. Mainly for ups is going to expand their but Amazon's making a big push there to to expand facilities now of course with companies being Financially impacted economically impacted by all this. The question is one of the questions. We here's our airlines going to receive some kind of support in the Reuters has a piece United Airlines in talks with. Us officials about financial support so our Delta and American in as it's reported their Oscar Munoz the united. Ceo sent an email to the United Employees. Saying that he quote has spent the last two days in Washington DC meeting with senior officials in the trump administration and senior members of the US House and Senate in both parties to understand what government policies they may be considering and explain to them the impact that the corona virus has had on our business so It's obviously been pretty significant. And it was just a week ago. I believe that Reporter has the president About the possibility of bailouts and is he had just come out of meeting with airlines executives and said something along the lines of. Don't bring that up. I don't WanNa give them ideas. Well clearly it's gone well beyond the idea stage at something that will almost certainly happen and he did mention in his press conference. Today I did mention the airline industry so and of course it's not just US airlines sub British Airways Co Alex Cruz. Senate video message to employees. The title of which was the survival of British Airways while yeah and he saying it Crisis of global proportions like no other we have known and so they're going to be parking airplanes and in laying off staff that Article in Forbes says that I add said recently that the Kobe. Nineteen outbreak could cost airlines one hundred thirteen billion dollars in lost revenue but with mass groundings still set to be announced in Europe. This week that figures expected to increase pretty significant. And I think I heard that Sas Scandinavian Airlines may be preparing to shut down completely. Maybe I got that wrong. But that just shows you. The extent of the impact is having. I was hearing that I was hearing that lot The Polish airline Was going to basically dropped down to little to no flight. Ground all of the aircraft of course Here in the United States as the the numbers increase day by day A lot of events are are being canceled Sun and fun. Of course I think most folks now is Being postponed the new show dates for sudden fund. Our may fifth through tenth and It's it's been noted that one of the things that kind of pushed them in that direction was the closure of the theme parks. And Yeah once once. They suspended their operations. The city council pretty much had to to follow how it's done fund the the featured Fast jet part of the show was to be the thunderbirds. He and I was curious to find out. Well if the If the air show if the sun fun show was postponed till May fifth through tenth. Would that impact impact thunderbirds and it does speakers from Aro- News Dot Net. We see the official. Us Air Force statement. This is the air force is committed to upholding the complete. Trust and confidence of Americans in our community engagement is the key to those connections. However due to the uncertainty regarding Cova nineteen and to protect our airmen their families and the communities that support us the Department of the Air Force has suspended all outreach activities and support to community events through may fifteenth that Inclu- or this includes but is not limited to on basin civilian sponsored Air Shows. There you go band performances and community engagements in meetings speaking engagements community meetings on installations based tours Pentagon visits And so forth so sounds Sounds like the We won't be saying that the thunderbirds at Sun and fun and I really wonder if they have pushed it out far enough you know. They've essentially pushed suddenly found out about a month. I'm just not sure that's going to be enough to get us through the The curve if you look at China it seems like took probably about eight weeks before they got a major downturn. You know maybe things will turn down a little faster here if we're doing a better job of essentially social distancing sheltering in place but who knows. I think that's a that's a big unknown but on the other hand I think sudden funds kind of between a rock and a hard place to push out to June as they're going to start to get pretty hot and you know they may get fewer attendees once the summer months. Come around yet. This is for as far as air shows go. This is worse than the last time. We had sort of a major catastrophe which was When we had the government shutdown and I mean at least a civilian acts were flying. We weren't losing airshows. We were just losing while the military aircraft but in this case. Now we're losing. We're losing everything and I. It's kind of scary being. It's touching all of us you know. And and we're freaking out because all of us need our fix of being outdoors in the sun getting vitamin D IN SNIFFING AB gas and That's not going to happen. I'm trying to put a positive spin on what we do for you. Know as my co-host or Giggling in the background here folks I prefer to Sniff Glue Abg. Gas is a little too lethal self taught there. Yeah I picked a hell of a week. They quit sniffing glue to quote AIRP- airplane so it's it's it's frustrating and it's it's global. It's not just the United States here their shows I mean it's Great Britain and Australia and I mean it devastating to everything i. It's just everything. I don't think there's an idol this viruses impressive. I don't think there's an aspect of life. It hasn't touched yet in the news. I think is the more aggressively. We shelter in place the more quickly we're GONNA get through this with far. Fewer total cases of people continue to go out running around. I've been a little dismayed by the attitude. I've seen a few younger people who say well it's not GonNa Affect me so I'm just GonNa continue going out there and doing what I like to do? But I don't think they realized that they could essentially catch it and while they might survive. They'll pass it onto some over folks who might not survive in other some fascinating data. That's coming out of Italy. Shows that the Death pattern there is very different than what we've seen from all the other Asian countries where they said Oh. The young people seem to be doing fine it in Italy where they did extensive testing there was a huge spike in the the under forty age bracket. So I I think it's apparently not the case that young people get a pass on this and and that's kind of unfortunate that that is the the narrative that's been you know pretty pretty Pretty true up until very recently to back to the air shows the I would imagine the shows that charge in admission and you have to purchase tickets in advance would be affected far more than the free shows The military shows we just show up. But it's open admission. I would imagine those are GonNa be hurting even more that are asking for money upfront. For tickets where they're right around that At least here in the Midwest where in that certain window where are they going to happen or not they? They might have already started to to spend some of that money In operation for the for the show and that's not going to be recoverable right and think of and if you just plain think about an air show the the economic cost to the area is huge not dimension there are people who live going airshows airshow. You know the vendors the the People who cooked hotdogs you know or you know sell the trinkets or whatever you know. And their lives are based on airshows. You know it's I I don't know it just so pervasive and it's amazing when you start looking how inner connected we all lar- I mean that's I guess that's what this is really showing is how inner connected are. Now Mind you. I want you to know that while we were recording this podcast we were keeping our six feet from each other by about times of thousands but I joke a little bit. But you know we're all GONNA GET USA starting to talk to people staring at video screens. You know and that kind of bizarre. I've been sheltered at home now for for five days and the thing that I've noticed it's different. I've talked much more with people on the phone now than I ever did. I've spent more time on the phone in the last few days and in the in the past month and it's actually been kind of refreshing to have a longer non rushed conversations with people where you could just kind of shoot the breeze a little bit and I find that it's a it's it's kept me pretty Pretty happy here. I am not I'm not feeling the signs of it you know at this point In terms of you know feeling disconnected or whatever. Because I'm doing everything I can. To stay connected. You know. It's funny because I pulled up a nineteen eighty seven. At and T. Commercial and most people probably our guest is an old enough to remember this but at and T. slogan was reach out and touch. Someone is right. Yeah quotes of forgotten and it was about calling people. The what I picked the commercial I picked was a college student calling home to his mother. But you can still reach out and touch people. It's just recrafted. Do it differently for awhile. I still remember the jingle music from that commercials. Amazing go ahead sing it for us. It went out something about reach out and touch someone reach out and just say hi. Yeah I remember. I didn't remember the Jingle I remembered. The you know the catchphrase there but a lot of other things are getting Impact is well the NBA. E- base is Cancel that's the European Business Aviation Association. has cancelled their convention and exhibition for this year. Would have been held may twenty six to twenty eight in Geneva so there we are the cancellation all the way out to end of May and then Launchpad sent us An article from Defense Dot Gov. Dod officials explained New Corona Virus domestic travel restrictions and defense officials issued a memorandum. If you're interested we'll have a link to that in the show notes but that halts domestic travel for Servicemembers Defense Department employees and family members. That's abandoned effect from March sixteenth to May Eleventh Well there are certain exceptions for hardships and humanitarian travel in a couple of other things and of course the the population of People who are employed in the aviation industry Have been personally affected as well as you would expect. And we see American Airlines pilots of tested positive for the virus. And I think A Max there have been some. Tsa officials pretty close to home for for you. They are Last Wednesday I was planning a trip on Thursday to similar in Las Vegas for Cirrus and I went and checked online first thing in the morning on Wednesday so I would get a good seat which I think I would add a great seat. No matter when I checked you because I think the airlines were flying empty and an hour later. I saw a story that said three. Tsa officers at San Jose. International Airport had tested positive. Course that's where I was flying from the the following day and I posted something on my facebook page with that article that basically should I go? It was fascinating getting all the different Responses the one that was most fascinating to me was a video that basically showed that if you essentially shelter in place malady so call platinum the curve. You know spread out on the affections happen. But you ve vastly reduced the total number of infections that occur that was kind of the most motivating to me and I decided right there on the spot to not go on on my trip on Thursday and in fact I also cancelled all my my flights starting on Wednesday so by the time people hear this I have not been fly for for a full week but then a few days later a fourth. Tsa Officer was tested positive. And that's after. They said that they had already quarantined or sent home. You know some roughly thirty some officers. The the first three who had been in contact with just shows that yet. No matter how hard you try. They're still going to be people that end up catching this one of the comments on my facebook posts said yet. I haven't heard any people on the airlines. That have you know tested positive. Well guess what two days later story comes out. American Airlines pilot is tested positive. We've got Alaska airline employees in San Francisco. They've tested positive somewhere. Today I read about an airport policemen. It may be Los Angeles. Who's tested positive? So these people are in regular contact with hundreds of people no surprise that there on the front line of catching the colon nineteen virus. That's right we had that message Chicago over the weekend through customs Where there was four hour wait. There was just thousands of people waiting to get through all packed together. I can't imagine there's not going to be fall off from that so yeah I think you're absolutely right. I think that kind of thing. Just accelerates the whole process and I'm sure it was unintentional. I mean it's often we get second order effects and that was the second order effect of shutting down. The flights to to Europe was suddenly had a huge crush of people. And I think the part of the reason was because they were what Taking temperatures of all these people before they did admit them to customs in some form they were asking them to fill out also. Okay yeah so that kind of greatly delayed the normal process for getting through customs unfortunate but obviously I think people will figure these things out. We won't have repeat to those and he thinks just get further away from people. David mentioned are are Are Six feet separation. Here's where recording this. I think actually our new rule is six state separation. We WanNA WE WANNA have six states between each of us when we record a podcast. Yeah yeah all right so while most of the news most of the aviation news is related to the to the virus. Not all of it is We have a an item from market screener southwest airlines FAA probes problem with South West jet. And this is about a flight On route from Las Vegas to Boise Idaho and they experienced some some loss of pressure so they descended to a safe altitude and they landed boise safely. And I guess that's where they discovered the cause of the air pressure loss was oops cracking the fuselage. Does that sound familiar now? They said they inspected it. And apparently there's a current rule it says that they have to inspect Look for cracks every fifteen hundred hours but do you remember what that led to all these increase the inspections for cracks in seven thirty sevens. I think so. It's fifteen hundred cycles. I think he take off and landings not ours but Wasn't it the The Hawaiian experience where the top of the fuselage peeled back and we had The really scary situation. I think that's when the industry kind of woke up to the fact that the number of cycles the number of pressurization depressurization is a driving factor. That particular aircraft had a very high number of cycles. Because it's the roots of the flu. Were so short now. They're flying from island islands. A average flight is probably thirty minutes or less of which most of that time was taxi type. I think that aircraft had something on the order of eighty eight thousand cycles on it which was significantly more than any other aircraft were certainly significantly more than the the average so it is kind of disturbing to To find out that the inspections haven't been sufficient to catch this particular cracks. I have a feeling this may lead to increased inspection rate dad. Sounds like a and I think that was aloha airlines that had that Cadet problem years ago. I recall the year but it was quite a while ago. I think yeah and of course there were a number of people that were were sucked out of the aircraft because the whole top peeled off and it was just remarkable that that aircraft could land because it it frankly did not look like an aircraft when I got it on the ground. Yeah Yeah So. I mean obviously aircraft airplanes Experience high levels of stress and again. It's it's cycles that Take off and landings that Is usually the measure and you can get fuselage cracks. You can get wing cracks It's not uncommon And there's ways to remediate them when when they're found This may be something larger than what's you know normally encountered. I think it was a twelve inch rupture basically in the in the few slides in this in this latest case but some people you know hear about a crack in an airplane and you think that this is unusual and horrible. And it's not great but it's it's not particularly unusual though. I guess the size of this crack is a little unusual. Yeah decide yes definitely. I remember. I told the story I think years ago but when I was a kid One of the first flights that I took was on it. It might have been a seventy seven. I don't know it was it probably was and I had a window seat and I was looking out the window at the wing because I was over the wing there and I noticed all these little round holes in the wing and I thought wow what it doesn't seem right to have always a little little little holes in the wing little drill holes. Well when you encounter crack the way to keep it from propagating. Is You drill a little hole at the ends of the crack because that distributes distressed to a much much larger area in that stops the cracks but you looking at an old airplane. That wouldn't be unusual. I remember that from shop class. I call that stopped drilling that for example on the plastic wind tips of Cessna's often those will crack right. Were the screws. Are that attached the wingtip to the metal wing. And you'll often see when you inspect that area that those cracks have been stopped drilled. Problem is it stops it for a while but then eventually they'll start re propagating again. That story didn't surprise anyone here in Chicago. Because we've all had hardly needs at Midway Airport on South West so we could see exactly how that would come to being. Well it's good point mid way too short so you're saying essentially that they really plop it on the ground quickly so they can start running the reversers and not all the time is is your lot of crosswind even though the configuration isn't enacts but there still is incidents where you get a pretty strong crosswind Especially with Compared with O'hare because dependent on on on a wind patterns they can literally the the approach pattern at O'hare and the takeoff pattern midway can be within two miles of each other round there so they gotta be very careful and that's why they'll use different runway for different. Thanks just because of that also all right one last news item this is from. Nbc San Diego. A man arrested for allegedly. He's shooting at San Diego police helicopter. Yeah that'll get you arrested. I'm just shaking my head. I just. I'm happy that we so rarely hear stories like this. I mean if you think back you almost never hear about. Somebody's shooting at an airplane So yes of course. They point lasers at them every night. That's pretty common but actually taking a gun and firing at the helicopter. Pretty rare but also gotta say Pretty Stupid Kinda reminds me. People that point lasers at police helicopters. Those are the people are going to catch you. And so sure you're gonNA fire a gun at a police helicopter they're gonNa get you so this particular case Sounds like that. The cops were called out for possibly of reported burglary and residents said. The man was armed with a gun banging on the doors making rambling statements at police helicopter arrived in the reportedly fired one round at it in the pilot and Clark climb to a higher altitude and the broadcast to the cars on the ground. What was going on? So He's been booked into jail on two felony counts of attempted murder. Because I guess there were two pilots in the aircraft and three felonies assault with a firearm of the person. So this guy is GonNa be a much older when he finally gets out of prison. That's probably a good thing. I think so all right our guests this episode again is Peter Wagner Airport Watch. He's the the president That organization you've been that Organization for a while. I guess because you've had some other other positions in the leadership but one of the interesting things about this organization is The relationship you have with the airport. Maybe you could tell us a little bit about how that came about. Yes sure we We are the one of the we are the only Airport Watch organization in the United States. That is actually affiliated with law enforcement. we started out a one of the towns just to the west of us at O'hare a Bentonville Illinois Started this out as a community watch program And that built and and Before we know what we got into this big organization we we actually started out using the Canadian model Which is affiliated with law enforcement through the The jock with the international group but all of the law enforcement Have come on board with us. We do a training session once a year for our members where we actually are in the control center at O'hare airport. We have all of our affiliate we have a a liaison with the F. B. I. With Chicago. Pd Scott Part of aviation. Tsa at a all send representatives Chicago Fire Department All send members which speak last year We had a drug dog to a demonstration. We've had TSA bomb squad actually show us how somebody would mount a shoulder base. Stinger what the process is to do that and how we would identify that. So we're very tight with our law enforcement Here and we do. Our monthly meetings and law enforcement will come to our meetings and update us on things. We don't have a secret service liaison but That works Through the FBI the FBI would actually work with us when we get Vip visits that we can help out with. Our group is very strong and we have many many different members that are In all aspects of aviation and just general public Pretty much we touch on just about anything. We do have a lot of airport related people because of aviation but We have Members in the media we have members that are Air traffic controllers to you know working on the ground at the different airports in Chicago and Firemen and lawyers and doctors and airline pilots so Our group pretty much a pulse on Aviation Chicago to me. This makes a huge amount of sense Because an airport is obviously Especially to a major airport. I like Chicago. There is a lot of real estate to to manage the security of something. That expansive is not an easy task and to Employ I don't mean financially employees but to use Enthusiasts others that have that are stakeholders in the security of the airport in in his sort of collective way. It just gotTa have huge benefits for the airport not just airport but also with the private business. We have a lot of private businesses that surrounds the airport. And all these people are huge fans of as also Because if you have a spotter city On a Sunday afternoon in your driveway your business. It's closed There's nothing going to happen in your business while spotters sitting there right in if you're an enthusiast The benefits are also fantastic. I mean not only you know. Access for for spotters and people who want to Do some photography but I gotta believe just for for aviation enthusiast to be immersed in in what's going on at the airport is is discussed to be a you know a real kick well and everyone can act so because of this we're all connected and and different people that have different. Maybe insider connections can report on things. I mean we. We learn things faster than the media does Because of our and we have media members will call us directly. What are you hearing out there? What what are you seeing? And we'll have photos posted before it even gets onto the news A news cycle on things because our membership is so aware of what's going on and are so well connected so at the beginning was was it a hard sell to To to law enforcement into the into the airport authorities in in all too to build this kind of relationship or they just sort of evolved slowly step by step over time It was easier With law enforcement because our liaison who helped develop this program Was Law enforcement so he was very well connected with the Chicago Department aviation so he could then We had we had an aunt at that point. We developed that connection. But the harder sal was with the general public so that was we would get called in all the time. Some guys got his camera out. There pointed at An airplane so so for US. It was more selling the public in. How did you do that? multiple ways Matter of fact we just a few months ago Had One of the the traffic reporters of wgn which is a pretty major player. Did a fall sweeps Story on us that ran multiple times Where she came out what of the other reporters With the station is actually a member of our was a member of our group before this and that was connected with one of the bigger Disc Jockeys town is always been a member in our group too so she came out and did a story and and many people have told us. Oh we saw you on the news. We saw your airplane group So the more we can get the word out to the general public. I think that was our next step that they knew we were doing. Good out there and I'm curious I see these great vests that are you're wearing on the on the website here. Is that part of how the public knows a wait a minute. That can't be a terrorist. They don't walk around in orange vests. It was more for law enforcement to identify ass. We started out with On the back of our best which is our still our name. Org We actually change that up to just airport watch because we started expanding to the other airports because the Chicago vacation is basically O'hare and Midway Airport We want to be part of midway also but a lot of the smaller airports do page airport. Waukegan Rockford Have all become parts of our group so we wanted to be a member to be able to go any of these other airports around and The identified is Airport Watch but it does identify too many people including the general public that we are so. It's been a great advantage to have we also have an ID that Benson Bill. The the town actually issues us. Id's which is a background check and our official hormone issues. So yeah I was going to ask you about if if you had a need to vet members. Check them out in advance we do. Yeah and they run an FBI check on on all our members the only At this point you have to be eighteen to join Although we are looking at the possibility of moving that down to sixteen Because you have to have an An active a driver's license. Because that's what gets Rawdon through the through the system you had you have to have a driver's license a United States driver's license to do this. We have had groups of people that have come in from you know with foreign passports and we can't run We can't run out back because of that so sure sure. And even the kids We encourage their parent join. And if the parent comes out with the child the child can still spot and still be an airplane enthusiasts they just added up a parent sitting in the while. They're out there doing taking pictures. So let a fun family activity. I like that. Yeah I do too. That's very cool. You'd be surprised at how many families will come out to do plane spotting the for some reason. The young kids are into this now great. I'd like to yeah so in And I don't know if you have a sense for this or not but in terms of you know the impact that airport watches hat on the safety and security of the airport have there been certain occurrences that have been picked up by the group or is it Yet what can you give us some examples? Normally it's smaller things on just like anything else You know if we see a gate open or we see Phad on the runway we reported but we have had some some larger incidents where law enforcement will come to us and say. What have you seen on this? During the few years ago when the American Seven sixty seven caught fire when the when they had the explosion of the of the tire Our group was photographing it and law enforcement Took our photos and used are photos. And a matter of fact Miami International Because that's what the plane was going to also Request photos from us. Offer their training so Were very active. We've had photos of small at Midway. We've had photos of planes coming in with bad landing gear that There's been incidents with that. Are Spotters have caught the actual playing in On approach so yeah so we're The Nice thing is because we're most of us are photographers. We have cameras with us so we can photograph this in. We tell our group photograph it. Snap a picture of it. You know 'cause you never know so I'm guessing if you see an aircraft with landing gear. That doesn't look quite right. These are anything you can do. Besides take a picture of it. Usually they know what's going on. By the time it gets close enough for us to photograph at They're pretty aware of the situation at that point. You're not in. You're not in radio communication with tower. Now now we're so usually we're listening in most of the spotters are actually listening in so we know pretty far out if there's some sort of an issue but You know you never know when you're going to capture something. We just had an incident yesterday with an Air India Flight The left Chicago With the flag issue when out to battle creek turned around and came back and landed without flaps Which was Pretty intense with a you know a triple sat and loaded down some three hundred coming back in so But our group Photographed it quite a bit and It helped it helped out as we posted these pictures. All of our pictures that are posted get looked at by a lot of different. People are on our sites looking fantastic. Let's talk about kind of spotting in general that'd be the the hobby of spotting If you will A lot of spotters lake photographing planes. But there's other foreign tells by the kind of the different forms of spotting the different types of spotting that people like to do. Well you know you get At a big at a large airport. They're mainly looking for uniqueness A specialty plane a something that maybe doesn't come in at net obviously brings out more people. If an Antonoff comes in the you get much bigger crowd if you know the baby. There's an equipment change where something's coming in. That normally doesn't come in mainly at some of the other. Airports Chicago is active Midway some of the other ones with the private aviation you look at maybe individual owners We had the NBA. All Star game here in Chicago so it for people that follow the jet the private aviation. It was a huge because everybody was in town with their. You know from Michael Jordan on down with their private jets So it was great to watch whenever we get a a Thursday night football game here with the bears. We Played The Dallas cowboys a few years ago. And it's incredible. The the private aviation that came into Chicago so And then anything unique anything different You know we unfortunately were not in. Sports are not in but you know some of the sports teams will bring it will come in with unique unique planes and then it's going to be If we you know we have pilots reach out to us. We have people flying reach out to us. Can we get a picture of you? Know a myself on this plane or you know I'm flying in You know I'm the first officer on this plane. Can you take a picture of US kind of thing and You know then it's just to get Get unique aviation photos you know with the weather being different Yuna Great. Everyone wants to get some aviation pictures. In general we generate a lot of pictures both With our spotting groups that post and with our with our Our site How `bout locations Some airports have pretty good places to to watch the airplanes and others don't or used to and and don't anymore What ABOUT THERE IN CHICAGO? And maybe some thoughts on that in general across the United States. Well the the the problem is more more airports. Their private land Encroaching most airports In Chicago we work with it. Some of our spotting locations are on private property. But we we touch as we get into this with the explain who we are and we have There's a couple of our spotting locations that are unique where they've said only people spotters with orange vests can spot at these locations One of our more unique locations right now is changing. It's it's part of a construction site With the expansion of O'hare and But we're allowed up there but that's just because our board members are some of our prominent members have made contact with construction site and and you know we bring donuts to them and we bring coffee and you know we do everything that we can to to become good good neighbors And help them out so Midways unique because it's a one square mile and Pretty much is street parking and it's all not very hard. All some of the parking garages at Midway. You have to pay to get in them but it would be only downside to our to our to spot in there. But that's only uncertain runway configurations so and I've found that Some of the spotting location we're constantly evolving. Just because we're you know hair has become more east west now where the tried to You know things will change you know With different spots around constantly changing but And then of course time of year you know in the summer months when the hour or longer. The Sun has shifted to the North Idaho completely shifts late afternoon evening early evening spotting locations too so sure sure so notice on your website. There is a great picture on the member benefit. Page of it. Looks like you know. Twenty five thirty your members out there right on a taxiway shooting extra of cutter cargo and things like that tells you about that. How was it you get to go out there and be on the runway? Well as I was telling you before. We do. A training session but And which probably boards a Lotta people but we do try to spice that up a little bit with talks and we do it actual We do a We give everyone a card we do a little a little raffle with What a lot of people would consider junk but in the aviation world We give away. Something is going to get a lot of of the stuff. We give away but After that's done we have lunch. We are group's sponsors launch and then we go out for three hours On your out Joe. Hair our To school buses we have fine tune. This this so I usually work very closely with different People with the CIA and we pick different locations and We've gotten on the taxi way right next to the active runway and watched seven forty sevens take off where you can feel the whoosh mob were as standing there. We you know we used to always talk when we're younger and probably you guys did too about you know you'd see pictures of the spotters innsbruck in Switzerland. We always we WANNA do that. We Wanna be those those people and we have We were on one of our jurors are. We're told a hike. Hey guys we gotta move and like the pilot of Cafe Pacific is Needs to get by resented our like okay so those people have been sitting on a plane for sixteen hours in there waiting for us to get on a bus but we have we have Some of our our members are firemen. One of our favorite spots is one of the biggest fire houses. Right on the O'hare Fire Department is actually Fifty six act members at any one time actually on duty there But the firemen because we have a great working relationship with one of the deputy chiefs out there they bring out the gear. They take it us on. Bucket rides up top. They do demonstrations for us to do everything for us there. So everybody is there wants to one up and do something better for us so which has been great so And we do that twice a year so we do too We do were actually trying to plan a spring one for June. Also Afield tour. It will be a training but just field at a point so we usually get out twice a year. And that's a huge advantage to join our group to To have this evidence disadvantage to be out on the field. So how many members do you have right now? Currently we have close to three hundred. Wow actually active. You know that. Are that will participate anywhere from sixty to ninety. It's amazing it's amazing thing growing every day parade maybe Tell us a little bit about Camera Equipment Somebody. Who's maybe interested assuming they could find a an airport with a with a good spotting location any thoughts and he tips and he and he helped that you might Be Able to provide to someone. Who's contemplating kind of starting to do this? Sure most photographers least. And this could be you need to. I've been to many different airports around the country but Most spotters will use any usually seventy two three hundred millimeter lands or a eighty two four hundred millimeter. One of the canons shooters. She one hundred. Four hundred Lenses because you're outside in a you know if you pick a bright nice nice data to spot in You shouldn't have too many problems in some of those Cameras in kits With that are not super expensive as we say we we like to go out and good light You got good light. You're going to get a good picture. It's all about the light it. Well it's mostly about the light Then maybe next as composition are there Any thoughts on on on composition or the types of images that are more effective or more dramatic. Well I You know. Light will dramatic You know I'm a you know. A lot of my. The other spotters will joke. Ralph may because I'm kind of a stickler of you know not to not to shop. The tail off are you know. Put the wing through the tail. You know and You know I I'm like you know. Show the whole plane and you know kind of thing. So Exposed properly for the whole plane but yeah you know you'd be surprised? We have some photographers that are very creative and get some pretty impressive work That comes out of our group at because they're out there quite often so and they they now they're going to have to go out and really nice light which is great so in a in a level of of quality has gone is gone quite a bit up so which Pretty happy about two so to see that but a great group it It feels like it's it's a community. It's it's not just a collection of individuals who just kind of do their own thing. Yeah always has been it always has been and I think the Internet is brought us closer together in the community and you know we do different. Get togethers and we're always looking for for things to do. You know this summer will do a group party. You know where we'll So we're always looking for ways to get our group breakout group tighter together So you know it's an ongoing an ongoing thing. Sure a curious. I don't see any pictures that there are. Many pictures shot by members on the website. Is there a SP a specific place? Where you post them or see them. Or how does that two things one We were a little nervous about that because we didn't want to be inundated with pictures that point We wanted to use the We do have our website as we do have a facebook page. We do have an instagram account. That you can actually post two so the thought was to go to other social media platforms and not the website to post plus. We have a very large airplane. Spotters Pysche Spotters page aviation spotters page that in Chicago that is just Chicago aviation only And that has close to four thousand members involved in that So Nets people all over. The world are are members of that. So that's been used quite a bit for a plane photos also so yeah so that was kind of thought about The difference between the website in and get it makes sense. Now if someone listening to this Maybe someone Part of an airport operation or just an individual that enjoys spotting would liked to create something like airport. Watch their airport in any advice for getting started any tips. How'd you kick it off? Our group started out through neighborhood. Watch so every law enforcement It this is a very good area to to start out with. You'RE GONNA help protect the area around the around the the airport both of our rules. Regulations by loss all came from the Canadian model So that's what we got all of our information from Through their international airport. Watch which is you know. They've just celebrated twenty some years So every airport has got an airport authority. Every airport is usually open to this because this is feel good stories these are. These are positive stories about an airport It's usually in the airports will tell you that. Most stories that they have to deal with our negative stories are when something bad has happened. Something you know You know not good so you know. Here's an opportunity for them to experience. Feel good story and most airports I know are open to that We've travelled a multiple different airports. We have members from Indianapolis to come up. We HAVE MEMBERS FROM MILWAUKEE. Come down you. Know are group's have traveled to Cincinnati. Cg to Louisville to to Memphis and everyone we've talked to in a has really been positive about. This really would be good for us. So the more we encourage is around the country the better this is going to be be for airplane throughout the United States and I did spend some time going through the bylaws which I was surprised to find our Quite extensive very detailed There's obviously a you know a lot of hot and That went into those and it strikes me that the bylaws that you have a good road map maybe for for someone who's contemplating creating something similar because it it really. Those bylaws really lay out the the roles responsibilities the objectives. I mean it. Just everything is in there. It's really an impressive document. Well Hey we we borrow those from Canada so but anyone else who wants to borrow from us is more than welcome to so But you know the way I look at it as what I would buy advice to give to. People would always be take take. That's pretty extensive. You could always modify from there Take things out or at the exam to be a little more specific to your airport. I know there are some airports that are are very close. I Know Dallas Minneapolis Have have pretty strong groups And wouldn't surprise me. If they formed you know with law enforcement Down the road so great any other resources that you can think of that of budding spotters might benefit from Be Proactive in who you are. Even when we there's times when even I am in a neighborhood and a neighbor comes out. There is the fear of the unknown. If they don't know who you are. I've been neighbors Last month where a neighbor has come out and I introduced myself and tell what I'm up to and tell them what I'm doing and Once people know what you're up to usually they're they're all they're like. Oh that's great. You know that's fantastic But if they don't know and there's this fear this unknown that's what they call and that's what they get all nervous and paranoid about what you're doing sure that makes sense all right. Peter Thanks Great Information and I'm just really enthusiastic about the the organization that's been created there in the in the value that it provides to the airport the law enforcement to the members of the community to everyone. It's a really an impressive. I take it you You do this on the other side and Have other kind of employment to I'm actually a professional. Photographer is actually my trade Aviation photography is more my hobby. It Sounds Goofy. But it's you know it's always. I started out interestingly I ran a photo lab at one of the suburbs of Chicago and We had a couple of plane guys would come in and I liked their pictures and I. I made an extra set in hung on the wall and a one thing before you knew it. The plane collection grew and grew and more and more plane-spotters would come in. This is before the Internet and everything back in the early two thousands and then of course they would come up to the lab and I would develop their film for free because I wanted to see what pictures they added. Logs airplane pictures so we had quite a followed. People would come up to look at the walls and see what was new from. Other spotters That's Kinda how I got started in the plane spotting world so it is quite funny so But I appreciate you guys have beyond and like I said are Fee to join his. We charge a twenty dollars fee for two years. Anyone in the United States is welcome to join. You can And if you WANNA come in for one of our training sessions you're more than welcome man and I also want to create if you any of you guys want to cover Chicago during our training session. You're more than welcome to be our guest Come out on the field with US too. Fantastic that would be a blast. Yeah Yeah Yeah you guys have fun you can. You can eat pizza and go out and have some fun on the On the field pizza planes doesn't get much better than we used to have a TACO truck. But we we actually switched to pizza last year. This is making me hungry. I'm thinking on the airplane. Host meet up should be in Chicago. Yeah that's right and we also have Donuts in the morning to doughnuts and coffee so we take care of our our membership. So I'm in and so tell us the website again where people can builder It's O r d. the Word Airport Watch dot org but if you type in dot com. It's still works so both of them work. We could you check it out and I and I have one final question. This is a Chicago question or have you ever heard of a guy named Rob Mark Mark. It's his full name now. No I can't say how hurry perfect I don't know if that's good or bad. No it's funny it it it ends up being funny. Yeah no robs a good friend of ours. it's been a co host on this on this show and occasionally He he's Oh he's usually over at Chicago EXECUTIVE OUR WALK Walk Walk. That used to be called a walkie. There's quite a bit of controversy now. Kilwa at Scott who executive because closing one of the runways the elite against that so yes yes and it's been quite a quite a big thing with the private. Violence are very upset about this so I yeah. That's only the crosswind want one. Ray What do you need it? Short one yeah but the thing is Even the long runways aren't super long so but Yeah who knows what What's going on up there? They're in a town. That all takes four votes on a board to change things around so It's it can happen. So I'll let rob note is. The new nickname is prob who we're going to celebrate this easily. Reach out to me. Okay thanks Peter appreciate it. Thank you guys all right. What's up with the GEEKS? Max Trescott what's up with you hunker down near your home anything will. Let's see I can tell you? They're just a whole lot of benefits to being stuck at home. I mentioned to you that I cancelled all my flying plan plans and you know I have read. That did your symptoms usually appear after about five days. So I can tell you I have here at home for five days and feeling good so at this point. Continue to do that. I think Maybe I missed the the early wave. Of course the guy mentioned previous on the show that I am a real hot spot here in California. Most of the I mean the heaviest concentration cases as right here in Santa Clara County. We've had More than doubling. Every every three days as of today were up to a hundred and thirty eight cases of which a little less than half of those are hospitalized. I death last week was in the hospital here. A couple of blocks away from my house. So I'm taking this extremely seriously and we have cut back aggressively. I mean aggressively. We've talked about. Do we. Go meet up with the kids for that family dinner. We had planned on Saturday. It's like nope not GonNa do that. playing cards with couple. I was GONNA come over on Wednesday. Nope not doing that. You know we are. We really believe in the the transmission model which shows that people out there making contact than this thing is going to be worse than they're gonNA move more total cases so we're doing our part and I'm actually pretty upbeat here. After five six days getting a lot done Getting a little bit more exercise which is good usually out to teaching flying five days a week and podcasting two days a week. And I've gotten more more walks in that I haven't quite awhile so yeah I'm I Getting along just fine. Here's I mentioned lots of Social contact via the phone. You know things like that so Yeah I'm I'm here for the duration. Yeah Great and David. The American helicopter museum is closed down for how long two weeks as you say. Well right now Where under close until the twenty seventh of March? But that'll be revised at when it's probably that week but they give a shout out To all of us in the museum industry there are still open out there to you. They may not be they may not be Able to walk in but the Smithsonian Air Force Museum Pensacola Guggenheim are all museums. That have virtual tours and things like the Air Force Museum. It's kind of cool. Because some of their virtual tours include major cockpits of aircraft that they don't normally have open so something to think about. When you got some a little time to kill Google United States Air Force or the National Museum of the United States Air Force or the Smithsonian and take some of those virtual tours you know Likewise get out and get some air do it by yourself but as for me. I'm like kind of like Mr Trescott. I'm hunkered a bunker. I delivered potatoes and Toilet paper to a couple of people who needed them. could find them But for all intents and purposes I'm staying home hale and that's when the Internet just died. Oh dear and he's maybe back back. There is sorry I don't know what happened. It just sort of died died on you. What happened to me before earlier so continued since I'm home? I set out to do something I haven't done in months and my goal is to have at least two or three history segments written over the next two weeks. Yes halfway done one. So don't let it get out but One of my goals is to start writing again. So I'm trying to find positively in all of this negativity so we look forward to the first one next week I guarantee it. We'll see how far you get but my goal is to do writing a little bit every day. All right excellent excellent. We'll we'll wrap this one up and we WANNA thank you for listening to the airplane geeks. Podcast We WanNA thank Peter for joining us giving us some really great fascinating information about airport. Watch AGAIN PETER. Thanks again no problem as always you can find us. Airplane GEEKS DOT COM. You'll find show notes there for dissent every episode. But if you want to go straight to the show notes for this episode that's airplane geeks. Dot Com slash five nine five. He lets tell everyone where they can find out a little bit more about us. So we'll start with David Vanderhoek. What we find you online. Well you can find me on our slack listener team. We can't be in the same room together but we can be in the same slack channel and this is a good time for you to join it so you do that. By sending an email to feedback sending an email to the geeks at airplane geeks Dot Com and will invite you in and with the secret password. And you can join and you can get your Geek. Alan virtually with a group group of People. So or you can find us on facebook or you can find me on twitter You know how to spell my name. Just ask Mica and last but not least you can find me on Friday mornings with that. Guy. Max Flight. Talking about drones on the Digest. Great Peter Have you had issues with with drones in Chicago there a few. We actually have a few that been reported into the FBI. Mainly at Wanted to O'hare fuel at midway the main problem at midway has been the fourth of July when the neighborhood decides to shoot off fireworks in the In the Atlantic batter. That's a problem. Pilots southwest pilot reported that it was If felt like Baghdad to them sometimes some well it was probably exciting for the passengers looking at the windows but Sure it was all right Max Trescott. Would we find you? Who's shaking his head. Thinking about fireworks says aircraft is landing. Talk that would not be good. Well let's see So I'm not going to be at the airport said please. Don't come out to Palo. Alto asked to fly with me anytime soon but you might catch me walking around the block here in Beautiful Downtown Mountain View California. Good time to follow me on instagram. I've been doing a lot of posting here. In the last couple months you'll find a lot of By photos from vision jet flights and other cirrus flights out to instagram. And look for Aviation News. Talk All one word by the way I've just followed. Ord Airport Watch on instagram. So I can now see the pictures from a puget group out there and you can also find me on facebook of course by searching for Max Trescott if you want to shoot me an email. Go out to aviation news. Talk Dot Com. Click on contact at the top and I do want to mention that this week. We have a special episode of aviation talk and our our co host or my guest on. The show is rob. Who had lear absolutely. And what are we what we have done as we are going through this week's aviation news of the weird so they're just been so many strange stories lately. That's our episode this week. But you got the right show host those stories for your own show but you load off with the corona virus. Well that's because I did a full episode corona virus the Prior Week. So let's be fair here all right Peter any Any places online that For you personally or anything that you might WANNA pass it on. Sure if you want to See some of my work and some of my airshow work On Peter Wagner Creative On instagram and that's a good place to look up some pictures of what? I do With airshows and not not as much of my commercial aviation by mainly my airshow work but like to share with people online. Now good well to tell. Check that out. That sounds. That sounds exciting. Yes we were talking a little bit about some of the shows and I'm excited about going to Arctic thunder this summer in Anchorage. I'm hoping that it still happens. So but I'm crossing my fingers on that one. So so how come you go all the way to Alaska? There must be other airshows that are closer to Chicago. There is there is but we just A good friend of mine. The the Vice President Dan and I We're looking for someplace to go and for an air show to go to and We wanted to do some plane spotting up in Anchorage also. Because it's if you WANNA catch cargo up there that is the place to go. Yeah and We we've done airplane tours. We A- last year we started out in Fairbanks Because we wanted to spend some time with Everett's air cargo Which we did With all of their old anything from the other DC. Three's all the way up to their their modern up planes or M B eighties but And then we took the train down and we just found a spot during the summertime. Anchorage I think typically lasts pictures happened at eleven thirty at night so you get a full day of spotting in their organization N. You get a couple of days of the year show Which is Is a joint base. So you get the helicopters at the The planes and you get a great ground show and so we just And you can fly direct from Chicago Anchorage during the summertime. So and I just looked it up July eleventh twelfth Arctic Thunder Air Show so that may be our other airplane. Geeks a meet up this year. That would be a lot of fun. It's quite it's quite a. It's quite a fun show quite a lot going on there and a a lot of stuff coming in and they really do Have a full array of a military planes and they do some great demos The short takeoff and landing the stall planes do a great Where THEY TAKE OFF Across the runway land across the runway and and stop and just some fun Some fun things and Do all sorts of different Demos in the show and quite a bit of fun and if you you bring it on a big enough group up there there's a company that Four different DC. Three's and They will isolate charter. They're playing they hold seventeen passengers what they've done with groups from England is a fly to seaward fly into the airport and there's a Right in the airport terminals a little diner and they've flown up there and had a pancake breakfast and flown back to Anchorage. There's a lot of fun things you can do up in. That area's Peter. You just have way too many good idea but it is but but I will say this. I suspect that airline tickets to anchorage will be pretty cheap the summer. So I'm GONNA strike considerate. I hope so too I hope so too. So and of course we get we get Oshkosh you know here's a big one for For our only our group and we have a lot of our members are volunteers in our part of that. Up there so So we have a lot of connections up there so oshkosh is a very popular one group. So of course. Yeah I'll be. This'll be my first year to Oshkosh. Believe it or not sow so. I'm planning in Makati. You're going to be there. Probably for sure gaps. Yeah Yeah Oh yeah. Yeah and there's certain days you know some people will say the whole week but You know I've leaned towards the towards the end of the week at depend depend on what's coming in what comes in on certain days so what they're bringing into laws you know and what's GonNa happen for me it's more military I WANNA see and there's of course as you guys know There's the the ten am surprise Which is they won't announce what it is. It's the surprise so More in there's a surprise at it could be F. Twenty. Two's doing touching goes. It could be something you know some other crazy you know type. A bird it It could be anything In a purposely every morning do some greasier. So close quite yeah. I'm looking forward to it. Certainly looking forward you'll have fun up there so all right it back to you can find. Let's see we do everybody. Yes we did You can find me on twitter sometimes. Max flight also. I'm on linked in. Steve said at the U AV DIGESTS DOT com talking drones and it packs podcast with Mary. Kirby talking the passenger experience so please join us again next week as we talk aviation on the airplane Geeks podcast and maybe with a history segment by everybody keep. Lucite up and thanks for listening.
CBS 2 News PM Update 06-22-20
"I'm Erica. Sergeant hear the stories making news at this hour for the second time in three days. A three-year-old is shot in Chicago. The little girl was outside of home in Inglewood with a woman when someone in a car drove up and fired shots. Girl was grazed in the back. She's now at comber children's hospital. The woman was not hit. Chicago is moving to face four of reopening along with the rest of Illinois. This Friday museums, zoos can reopen and indoor. Indoor dining we'll be allowed to resume with restrictions. Customs agents at O'hare airport sees a shipment of hundreds of counterfeit facemasks the Mascot, street value of about eight hundred dollars. The package was headed from China to a home in Buffalo Grove to the weather, scattered storms with downpours and strong winds possible through the evening cooler conditions tomorrow in the mid to upper seventies. Join US ON CBS to or CBS CHICAGO DOT COM for news updates around the clock I'm Erica surgeon.
Small Businesses Not Partaking in the Q1 Rally
"With your money briefing. Im JR whaling at the Wall Street Journal in New York. It's been a party of sorts on Wall Street with stocks rallying since the first of the year, but small businesses are not in the mood to party. How down are they will explain a moment? I as money and market stories. You should know Freddie, MAC says the thirty year fixed rate mortgage averaged four point four six percent and the week of January thirty first that was up just one basis point compared to the prior week. It was the first time this year, the popular mortgage products on increase, but communists, expect mortgage rates to come down the next several weeks. That's because they expect the pace of economic growth to slow now for all you fans technical economic jargon out there. It means that interest among investors in bonds increased substantially that sent yields down again, including the longer end of the treasury yield curve that more directly impacts mortgage rates and Atlanta's Hartsfield. Field. International airport was no doubt one of the country's busiest in the past couple of days handling traffic to and from the Super Bowl, but the FAA says that Chicago's O'Hare international airport. The crown as the busiest US airport for two thousand eighteen O'Hare had more than nine hundred and three thousand arrivals and departures during last year. Atlanta's Hartsfield was second with more than eight hundred ninety five thousand arrivals and departures. It was the first time in four years. O'hare took the top spot from Hartsfield. The stock market has enjoyed a broad recovery. Since the start of the year, but small businesses have not shared in the joy. In fact, confidence among small businesses reached its lowest level in January since President Trump was elected in Wall Street Journal reporter Ruth Simon is here with some details for us so Ruth. There's quite a bit of pessimism. Economically among small business owners, small businesses have become less optimistic about the Konomi as a whole small business. Optimism has been going down for much of the past year for the first time. We saw this January st- survey some concern about how small businesses feel about their own prospects, and they're becoming a little more cautious. Now, the survey of small businesses taken for the Wall Street Journal occurred during the government shutdown so that may have contributed to some of the pessimism. But the threat of another stoppage is real that has to be very unsettling. I think there's a lot of economic uncertainty. For small firms both with the government shutdown. What's going to happen with tariffs? The stock market has been volatile. There's been a question about how much interest rates will increase. So they are operating in on uncertain world. And some of the businesses I talked to just say when they look at their own book of orders, they see some uncertainty as well listeners. Check out your story and wsJcom or the WSJ app will see a photo of New Orleans haberdashery called Rubinstein's and the owner there said that sales were strong, but he's leery about the months ahead. Yes. He sort of finds himself on the fence. I'd say half of him is optimistic and half of him is nervous. So when I talked to him Kenny Rubinstein head just put in his orders for the fall season. And when he looked at his own internal records. There was a certain number. He bought seventy five percent of that number. He just felt he should be a little cautious. And if businesses release. Strong. He can fill in at the end of the year. No, he had a very good year last year. But he's just a little nervous. You know numbers from the Federal Reserve saying the appetite for risk among businesses to seek out loans came down on the fourth quarter and small businesses have more of a direct pipeline. It seems to consumer confidence and people's wallets than a large corporations. They're very much tied to how unstable or inconsistent information might affect consumers, and they're also some of them deal with corporate customers as well. And they're on the receiving end of things that corporations are doing one of the companies. I talked to is a software consulting firm that works with agribusiness firms. You know, these big agricultural companies and some of their customers have become a little nervous. And so they're being more cautious about their spending on software and hardware. So often the small businesses will get some inkling whether it comes from the consumer or it comes from their business customers. All right. You can check. Ruth, Simon story in the Wall Street Journal on wsJcom. She's good enough to come in our studio with us today Ruth. Thanks for being with us. It's a pleasure to be with you. And that your money briefing, im char Whalen in New York for the Wall Street Journal.
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E12: What seat do you pick on an airplane? Aisle or window seat?
"Hey travelers welcome to the travel reviews that online podcast were we are sharing reviews of places to visit and other travel tips that can come in handy on your next vacation or leisure trip. Join me this episode, and if you have any questions to reach out, see trap edge, email, dot, com, story, ideas and guest recommendations for the podcasts are also welcome. Travelers Christoph trap. Thanks for joining me for another episode of traveler reviews that online podcast today. Episode Twelfth Moving Right along guys. Good time here talking about traveling, even though nobody is traveling anywhere at least not at my family, I know people are traveling to some extent, but certainly not as much s previously anyway, let me not digress today I wanNA, talk about window seat, or I'll seed on an airplane and many of us have opinions on that. And so of course like everything, it depends on personal preference. Some people like the window seat I. Don't let anybody likes the middle seed though I'll tell you one thing. I was happy before flying. O'hare to London, Heathrow in the middle seat in economy. In exit real fortunately enough, but I was so so happy to be in that middle seat, and here's what happened. I actually had upgraded to business class. Lie Down seed I think it was a seven eighty seven. Not exactly sure. honestly was twenty twenty seventeen so three years ago now and. There was a back and forth because taking different flights, one flight was delayed I was expected not to make my connections switch to a different flight, but that flight landed a long long ways away from where the Heathrow flight was. And I really really had to run in the door was closed, and when I got there, they opened the door backup for me, but the only seats left was a middle seat. In the exit row in economy, so lost my business class seat, and I probably never happier. Before to fly in the middle class teat, even though it was a long flight to London Heathrow from Chicago O'hare, but in general I think most everybody will agree that the middle seat sucks the end. And it was not that pleasant, but we all just get along with those people. Sit next to me. I was super sweaty from from running. But anyway. Typically what I do guys is. I always look at the. Seat Matt to make sure there's good seats available when I book so before a book anything. Don't let that go to. Don't let that be a surprise. Don't let that go to luck. Take a look so if you care about where you're going to sit. Look before you purchase in. There is a way to do that on American you can look at the seats before he purchase united. Has it I'm sure Delta, has it? But I always do that and I I am an aisle seat Kinda guy. Exit role if I can do it sometimes the thing to think about a big guy, exit row sometimes two seater slightly tighter around the bottom. So sometimes that's not good of an idea as it sounds, but in general, that's a good seat for me. I also liked the like the nine C Ninety, seven, thirty seven. Eight three, twenty or whatever Airbus's. So those are pretty good, they have extra legroom regular size for my bottom and not too bad, so, but here's Wyman I'll guy. I'll see Kinda guy because usually I have to the bathroom and if you sit in the window seat. I'm not saying you need to give up your right to go to the bathroom. But it's such. a pain like I flew from somewhere Europe to Spain before on Iberia, and for some reason I was in a window seed the bathroom and you have to ask like two people to get up. And then depending on, takes you waiting for you or whatever? It's just not a good experience so certainly. I get it. Everybody has to the bathroom at some point especially when it's a long flight. But that is the key reason why I don't like the window seat in Konami now in business class, it's a little bit different or in first class domestically in the US white will. Usually it's two in two or one too I like the wanted to set up that's usually like the emperor wants seventy, five or one of those whatever it is. Or seven hundred CR J seven hundred. And of course when you sit in the one one seed on the left. If you look towards the cockpit, you have the window seat down the I'll stay right because, just you. It's one and two configuration for seats and I like those seats. Because you can look out, you can go to the bathroom and you have to. There's nobody who's sitting next to even though in First Class. They're not that close anyway, so it's not that big of a deal. For Them to you know? To to sit next to you I, mean there's plenty of. Really touching people. But even in First Class. At the window and you need to the bathroom. You still have to ask them to get up. And the other problem in it's not I'm not complaining about this guy's, but not a problem potentially for the whole bathroom situation and I classes. They just keep bringing you drinks until you tell him to stop i. know currently a little bit different with the pandemic going on less drink service. But when I flew a few weeks ago, I, mean they just you know. They kept coming back until I told him to stop. And I saw that you know regular service. But. so something to think about so that's really the key reason. Why like the aisle seat so in economy for sure I? Always try to book that get it for free, -secutive platinum, status and Sometimes, it's different. When I started my family. I don't really care what seed I get Because we're like all in one role. Right next to each other typically. Citizen any difference who has the official see? You just can't make it work. However, it works for everybody And so there you go first class I have actually booked used miles or not miles, but business extra upgrades tickets to get a first class seat before the one hundred hours outs, typically I qualify for free upgrades one hundred hours out. But when it's really full. I sometimes have used the upgrade certificates to get an aisle seat. 'cause I don't WanNa be in the window seat. On a really really long slight now. What's interesting about the whole thing as you can see what my priorities are, but actually enjoy, sit hit the window. But my priorities are settled differently. But I have written about the best landings. It's over on travel reviews that online best. Landings most beautiful landings like San Diego Super Beautiful. You lay land. Like you. You're going through the buildings. It's Kinda. Cool to see the building so close. one time I flew into Toronto. and. I don't remember where I was coming from I to say Charlotte but they flew over the Niagara Falls and it was super. Pretty At least so I was told. The Guy. Sitting at the window remember. I picked the aisle seat. The Guy Sitting at the window was hogging the window. shooting video and pictures and told everybody how cool was I. couldn't really see it, but it looks Kinda cool. And you WANNA. Be Kinda discreet. You don't want to totally lean over, but so there's disadvantages for each of those rights and sometimes. If you know, it's going to be super, beautiful. Depending where you're flying. Maybe. It's better if it's a super super short flight. Might be okay. But like a three hour plus flight I probably wouldn't be a fan of that quite frankly. To sit at the window, but there are disadvantages to that at the end of the day. Think about your priorities think about what what you want to accomplish. On the flight. I'm also. I am a big fan of the window shade open. On the flipside. I also believe that whoever sits out. The window owns the window shade, so they can do whatever they want to. So what I do a lot of times when I sit down. If there's nobody else next to me, open it up. And then closer right away, I'll just let it go. I won't argue about that or bring it even up but so there is some negatives as well from a space perspective. I don't find the aisle seats much more space spacious. Six Four like two hundred seventy pounds roughly so big, guy. Even economy when people say oh, the big dudes who I don't see there to be much more room. Honestly sitting, there were sitting at the window. There's a little bit more shoulder space I guess when you sit at the aisle in academy, but for the most part I don't think it makes a huge difference. You can lean over a little bit, but it's not like doesn't do that. Much good in in in the middle of seed. For sure. There's less space right because you sit there and you can only. You can't really put your body anywhere else other than that seat. But anyway so, that's all I have on. That topic thought about this topic. Is I was posting a picture of my six year old, looking out the window going on a trip belief last year. And you know thought I wanted to share that story on episode. Twelve of the travel reviews data line podcast I do appreciate everyone listening if you're traveling this summer. Please stay safe. Stay sanitized. Stay healthy and Send Me Your picture. Send Me Your Story See Trap Edgy Mel Dot Com always happy to hear him always happy to consider if you have any ideas for guests who want to talk about specific trick always happy to consider it. I'm Christoph. Trap see trap. Underscore travel on twitter until next time. Have a good one.
NPR News: 03-15-2020 8AM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Kyle Snyder. There's been disarray. This weekend at some of the nation's major airports as the trump administration began implementing new restrictions on travel from Europe pictures from inside Chicago's O'hare International Airport for example shared on social media show Americans and legal permanent residents returning from Europe packed into tight spaces waiting for hours to be screened for symptoms of the Corona virus. Npr's Leila Fadel reports on the situation O'hare International Airport's one of thirteen airports accepting people returning from Europe and implementing enhanced screening but now many question whether the bottlenecks screenings creating will end up infecting more people. Then it's protecting similar. Pictures and videos were shared from the Dallas Fort Worth International Airport the governor of Illinois Jay pritzker seeds in a tweet at president trump and vice president. Mike Pence saying the crowds lines are unacceptable and that the president needs to address it immediately. Meanwhile the O'hare International Airport's twitter account says it has quote strongly encouraged their federal partners to increase staffing to meet demand. Leyla fallen NPR news. The Homeland Security Department is acknowledging. The Long Lines Acting Secretary Chad Wolf said on twitter. The government is working to add additional screening capacity and working with airlines to expedite the process the Colorado state legislature has officially suspended. Its work for at least two weeks. Because of the corona virus a historic first for the state to Brooklyn from Colorado public radio has more lawmakers in both parties agreed to stop their work. Here's Democratic Speaker of the House. Casey Becker I think two weeks provides enough time for some social distancing without pushing too far out in the future to know what may come up that we need to address a number of other state. Legislatures are also suspending or changing their work schedules because of the corona virus for NPR news. I'm Ben to Brooklyn in Denver. Nearly every state in the nation has recorded a case of the corona virus only exception being West Virginia. Dave missed it of West Virginia Public Broadcasting reports that may come down to limited testing. That's been conducted so far west. Virginia health officials reported Saturday night. That thirty nine residents have been tested through the CDC in the State's Public Health Lab. Thirty eight of those results have come back. Negative one test result is still pending those numbers not account for testing done at some hospitals and commercial labs. Wvu Medicine Healthcare provider. Run by the state's largest university says they are evaluating a number of options for commercial testing Spain and France joining Italy and imposing lockdowns as the epicenter of the Krona Virus Pandemic Shifts to Europe in Paris restaurants are closed doors or empty however French voters are heading to the polls today for local municipal elections this is NPR. The world's oldest golf course has changed cores voting to finally admit women Vicki Barker reports from London ever since its founding in seventeen thirty five. The Royal Burgess Golfing Society in Edinburgh. Scotland has been male only holding out even after other historic gender-specific off clubs relaxed their membership rules but now members have voted overwhelmingly to admit women. The society's president is calling the vote historic but perhaps the true sign of just how far British society has com. Is that not even the conservative? Daily Telegraph or Daily Mail. Newspapers have included on attributed quotes from aggrieved members calling the move political correctness. Gone Mad for NPR news. I'm Vicki Barker. In London Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed law this weekend that could potentially allow him to remain in power until twenty thirty six. The Russian parliament approved the measure. Last week it would allow Putin to run for two more six year terms but it still has some hurdles to jump. The country's constitutional court must decide if the changes legal and it must be approved by voters in a referendum set for April twenty second with voters in Arizona Florida Ohio and Illinois preparing to go to the polls Tuesday the next round of primaries Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are preparing to debate tonight. Cnn had planned to host the debate with a live audience in Phoenix. But it's been moved to a television studio in the nation's capital because of Corona virus concerns. I'm Kyle Snyder. Npr news from Washington.
144: The Trials of Confidential Magazine: Maureen O'Hara (Fake News: Fact Checking Hollywood Babylon Episode 18)
"Just. To another episode of you must remember this the podcast dedicated to explain the secrets, and or forgotten stories of Hollywood's first century, I'm your host Corinne along. And this is another episode of our ongoing series fake, news fact, checking Hollywood Babylon. This is news. This is totally unfounded gossip it's a long way from Hollywood, criticized for dealing to frankly such themes as sex nudity Hollywood Babylon. Last week. We began the story of confidential magazine the scandal sheet that transformed the way Hollywood was ridden about and approached its own scandals today, we're going to continue by talking about the trial that brought confidential down and the actress Maureen O'Hara who took full credit for that take down. Here is an excerpt from Hollywood Babylon. The trial. Finally started in Los Angeles. August second nineteen fifty seven the press called it. The trial of a hundred stars actually after a brief appearance by Dorothy Dandridge who withdrew her complaint after considerable out of court settlement the trial counted, only one other star beautiful redhead, Maureen O'Hara confidential had informed. It's literati that miss Maureen O'Hara had indulged in eight Chinese chest game in the plush seats of the loge section of Grauman's Chinese theatre her playmate was said to have been in a tractive, South American judge. Walker felt additional information was required. The scene was reenacted in the balcony the manager of. Almonds agreed to play the part of the South American a young woman reporter was standing for the star the manager sat down the double stretched out and even raised her legs in the air all twelve jurors repaired to row thirty five where minute examination of the three seats in question showed them no different from any others in the theater, Maureen did not appear until August seventeenth. She proved that at the time of the alleged frolics the balcony of Grauman's she had been in Spain. Her passport was entered as proof. She asked five million dollars in damages. The witnesses persisted in spite of her passport proof of absence insisting that it had been the actress they had seen in the lows. Her sister, an Irish nun emerged from convent to come to her defense the court pride and a lie detector. Which did not prove that Maureen was telling the truth, the hung jury finally reached a compromise. The obscenity charges were dismissed confidential only had to cough up five thousand dollars. There were many out of court settlements. However, which one added up came to a lively, some the magazine paid forty thousand dollars to Liberace and almost as much to a dozen other celebrity the biggest actual drama of the case came with the suicide of Polly Gould of the magazine's editors staff, she killed herself the night of August sixteenth. She was to testify the following day. It was then discovered that Polly had been playing a double game selling the secrets of the magazine to the DA and informing Harrison of. The maneuvers of the police following the trial. Howard Rushmore Harrison's editor in chief on confidential pulled out a gun while riding in a cab with his wife in New York. Separately side shot MRs Rushmore, then killed himself Harrison sold confidential in nineteen fifty seven. Maurino Harris account of her battle against confidential as related in her two thousand four auto biography has been widely mocked as has much of her auto biography, which ranks among the memoirs of Elliott Kazan and Roman Polanski for its lack of self awareness. The crucial difference is that Kazan and Polanski's books are fascinating reads and o'hara's. Tis herself is not in part. This is because the only hero in o'hara's account is O'Hara and literally everyone else is a villain. She's absolutely obsessed with the idea that she never became a great actress because she was too beautiful, which is not a great look and much of her commentary about the most. Memorable films of her career including miracle on thirty fourth street. And the quiet man is either completely prosaic or is focused on quote unquote, setting the record straits on issues that I don't think matter at all all of this is to say that her account of the confidential situation should be taken as perhaps not a pure unvarnished unemotional slice of truth. And it's because of this that angers distortions of o'hara's portion of the confidential story seem not that bad. Today, we will compare the different stories and try to sort out what really happened with Maureen O'Hara in that movie theater to confidential magazine in the courtroom and to Howard Rushmore in that taxi cab. Join us won't you for the story of Maureen O'Hara and confidential magazine. O'hara had been discovered as a teenager in Dublin and at age fourteen she was signed to a personal contract by the actor Charles Lawton. She came to Hollywood with lot in to make The Hunchback of Notre Dom in nineteen thirty nine and then lot and sold her contract to our KO. The gorgeous red headed teenager felt she had been abandoned by her mentor and stranded in a city and an industry for which she had little respect she longed to travel back to the UK and pursue theater, which she thought was the only venue for real acting. Yes. She was one of those. Instead O'Hara found herself working in Hollywood for an uninterrupted two decades during which she appeared in five films directed by John Ford, including the best picture winner. How green was my valley and the technicolor masterpiece. The quiet man in which O'hare plays the quintessential feisty Irish lass opposite John Wayne in her book of Hera categorizes Ford as a mentor who turned into a creep and at tyrant. She catalog some strange, and borderline sadistic behavior, he directed towards her ranging from harassing letters and onset comments to Harris suspicion that Ford schemed to ensure she wasn't nominated for an Oscar for the quiet, man. O'hara Chuck's this. All up to her belief that Ford was painfully closeted homosexual who attempted to hide his true sexuality by projecting a facade of impossibly inflated, conventional hetero, masculinity O'Hara backs up this theory by claiming that she once walked in on Ford and another man and was creeped out if John Ford was living a secret life, and if the masculinity of his movies and his persona did come from a place of shame. Well, that's fascinating. But the way O'hare writes about it is itchy because she sent herself as a victim of Ford who she paint says being virtually deranged and she in tangles her version of his sexuality with her disparaging view of his mental state. O'hara's own true personal life for much of her stardom was hidden from the public. She had a secret. I husband left behind when she left Ireland for Hollywood when that relationship was annulled O'Hara entered into what the public believed was her first marriage. That husband will price was according to O'Hare, a desperate alcoholic who spent her money wantonly stole from her and forced her to work more than she would have liked in order to make sure the bills he ran up got paid and to maintain the facade of her movie star lifestyle, again O'Hara paints herself as a helpless damsel trapped in Hollywood due to forces beyond her control. One of those forces was her own Catholic faith, which made a divorce an option of absolute last resort. Short. By the end of the nineteen forties. She had come to believe that in addition to being too beautiful to be taken seriously. There were two other problems in her career one was that her movies made so much money that they helped to finance the prestige pictures starring less beautiful actresses. So the studios couldn't take the financial risk of taking her out of the dumb technicolor blockbusters and putting her in say, a Bette Davis type picture the other issue in o'hara's mind was the casting couch as she wrote in her auto biography. Quote, I wasn't a whore. I've said over and over you can have anything you want in life provided you're willing to make the necessary sacrifices for it. I was unwilling to make that kind of sacrifice to get a part in a movie. I'm not saying O'Hara should have submitted to the advances of movie producers to get the part she wanted. But today, it feels real shady for her to blame the other players. I e those actresses she deemed, quote, unquote, horrors rather than blaming the game. On the day of o'hara's tenth anniversary of her wedding to will price. Her husband finally, moved out for good. This was shortly after O'Hara had begun a relationship with recap par a Mexican politician who she I met at a film festival in Mexico City at the beginning of the relationship and Rica, didn't speak English, and Maureen didn't speak Spanish and his teenage son would translate for the couple on their dates and Rica was married but separated and his wife had a boyfriend of her own satisfied that her new partner was essentially single marine agreed to pay off her husband's debts. If he would submit to a quiet divorce. He agreed. But then according to Maureen John Ford told price that his soon to be ex wife was. Living in sin with a Mexican. Will sued for custody of their daughter Bronwyn, alleging that her relationship with Parral was immoral and Maureen countersuit revealing that price was a drunk who was frequently too intoxicated to care for a child O'Hare out also claimed in her book that after filing her suit a quotes, very obvious homosexual approached her at Schwab's drugstore called her husband, a quote, cock sucking bastard whose shouldn't have custody of their child and offered to testify to such in court O'Hara vista mean that her ex had been secretly gay and thus unfit for parenting. This is the last significant story O'Hara tells in her book before getting into the allegations made. About her own sex life in confidential her repeated negative judgment of gay sex is gross. But it also serves to make it clear that she looked down on sex that she considered to be transgressive in her book. She trumpets were prudery perhaps a bit much which might be a way of inoculating herself in advance against what is about to come. Sony Pictures classics proudly presents STAN and Ollie starring Steve Coogan, and John C Reilly as the iconic comedy team, laurel and hardy after their golden Hollywood, here's laurel and hardy facing uncertain future as they set out on a comeback tour trying to reconnect with their fans, and rediscover just how much their friendship means to each other. The New York Times says Coogan and Riley delivered dynamite performances while the observer deems, STAN and Ollie four stars not to be missed certified fresh from rotten tomatoes. Stan and early now playing in theaters in select cities and opens everywhere January twenty fifth. Here are excerpts from the story. Confidential. Ran in their March nineteen fifty seven issue under the headline. It was a hot show in town when Maureen O'Hara cuddled in row thirty five. A gentlemanly assistant manager at Grauman's. Didn't give it a second thought. One November evening not so long ago when he greeted lovely green eyed Marino Hera at the head of the main aisle, escorted by a tall and handsome Latin American. She looked as dignified as a Queen the manager had his share of over amorous couples in Grauman's, but such a problem never entered his mind as he watched red haired Morenes we've down the aisle in the darkness, O'Hara necking a public theatre. It just couldn't be easing down the aisle. He saw the entwined to some. It was Maureen and her south of the border, sweetie. Maureen had entered wearing a silk blouse neatly button. Now. Now, it wasn't the guy had come in wearing spruce blue suits. Now. He wasn't moreover Maureen had taken the darndest position to watch a movie in the whole history of the theater. She was spread across three seats with the happy Latin American in the middle seats, the manager was embarrassed at the prospect of having to walk over and tell them to break up the anad ver- ties love scene on the other hand what they were doing threatened to short circuit the air conditioning system later, he found Maureen occupying one-seat her boyfriend's that is they were both in it. She was sitting on his lap facing the back of the theater that was too much. This is in manager turned his flashlight directly on Maureen and her Latin lethargic. Flicking off the light he marched over to the romantic Dua. When suggested perhaps it might be best. If you left the theater. Of course, the story wasn't outrageous lie O'Hara leader wrote. It never happened. I had been seriously libelled in the most offensive way. The story does redes- fiction concocted to counteract o'hara's previously established persona and to make her relationship with a non white foreigner seem all the more salacious again, we see that the subtext of so many of confidential hit pieces was racism, but unfortunately, o'hara's own account of what happened after the article ran also strains credulity in her book. She claims that the entire industry was outraged by confidential by the time her story ran and that all of her colleagues were in search of a figurehead to take the publication down. She claims she was told by actor turned politician, George Murphy, We have picked you. I felt like I was Joan of arc responsible for saving the. Motion picture industry O'Hara declared. And so I said, yes, oh Heron did file a five million dollar libel suit against confidential, but she was not the pioneer. She makes herself out to be. She was not the first star to file such a suit. As we noted last week Lisbeth, Scott and Robert mitchum filed way back in nineteen fifty five two years before Dorothy Dandridge filed and the closeted pianist Liberace follow Dandridge by filing suit in mid nineteen fifty seven in fact newspapers from nineteen fifty seven indicate O'Hara filed hirsute after she testified to the grand jury in August, nineteen fifty seven she switches the order of events in her autobiography. Now, I am going to quote directly from o'hara's book. Remember the events she's about to describe would have to occur after O'Hara filed hirsute. But before she testified, then all of a sudden Liberace and Dandridge dropped their cases. And settled with the magazine without any warning, George Murphy called me and said, Maureen these lousy bastard sons of bitches the industry is no longer supporting you won this you're on your own. I'm starry and may God help you. He then hung up the phone my own industry. Cut thrown me to the wolves. This seems to be if not a total fiction venit least, a distortion for one thing. Most of the industry never intended to support O'Hara by testifying when the DA claimed at one point that he would subpoena. Hundreds of stars the studio started pressuring the DA to drop the case because everyone knew that if stars were put on the stand to defend themselves against what confidential go wrong, the stars would have to admit to embarrassing or scandalous details. That confidential had omitted or got him rights second. We know from last week's episode that despite her settlement with the magazine Dandridge did testify. Finally, it was the judge in the case who declared that the scope of the subpoenas be limited to just six stories in question, Feo, Hera and Dandridge are. Articles were among the sex. But the Liberace story was not which was why he gave his deposition out of court in a private session with confidential attorneys, contrary to O'Hare claim that he abandoned the caused by settling he didn't settle his case until a year after the trial in July nineteen fifty eight in any case the industry had not thrown O'Hara to the wolves most of the industry wanted this whole thing to go away. But Dandridge and Liberace the two stars. She named as turncoats were apparently just as committed to this fight as heroin. If we take their actual on the record actions as evidence. There is another major issue that calls o'hara's version in doubt, confidential did not know if the Dorothy Dandridge story was true. But because it's tipsters swore. It was they felt they were safe in publishing it. They felt they were safe in publishing the Maureen O'Hara story because they absolutely believed it to be true. Unlike the dandruff story, this one had been thoroughly vetted, and the fact checker had found enough I witnesses who worked at the theater whose stories were more or less consistent, and who had no reason to collude with one. Another these witnesses testified at the trial again in contrast to the Dandridge story Hollywood believed that even if the article wasn't true, the racial identity of o'hara's boyfriend was worth gossiping about o'hara's relationship with PA. Era had already been the subject of disapproving reports in mainstream local newspapers by the time confidential ran their story. Maybe the tabloid had exaggerated the details, but most people around hound believed that O'Hara was due to have her pristine image muddied, just like everyone else's. The details of confidential story about O'Hara were hazy enough that when a single juror who was having trouble. Imagining the scene depicted in the magazine requested clarification, the whole jury was bust over to grens to see the scene of the alleged crime for themselves. I'm on the jurors side here confidential description of o'hara's, shall we say hawks jer is vague enough to allow the mind to real. All kinds of sex acts could have been happening or none. At all contrary to angers report. The reenactment that followed did not involve a theater manager or a young female reporter with her legs in the air. Instead the single juror who had requested the visit sat in the center seat and wriggled around his arms outstretched towards a male bailiff most likely as a comic gambits. Sidebar anger claims the biggest drama of the trial was the suicide of paulie Gould. This is not the whole story, and it sort of weird that anger leaves out the rest Gould who was a private investigator on Harrison's payroll was found dead in her apartment in the middle of the trial. The Los Angeles Times reported that the cause of death was an apparently accidental pill overdose. This was extra shocking because gold was the second witness to die before she was able to testify the I was chalky white. A black boxer turned chauffeur who had sold confidential. A story about his Sexcapades with may west after white died in his bathtub his widow alleged that she had been besieged by threatening phone calls warning her not to talk about her. Husband's relationship with may west and sidebar. When it came time for her to testify O'Hara was accompanied to the court by her two brothers and her sister who really was a nun on the stand O'Hara was a fierce witness, totally unshakable and her insistence that her passport, which bore stamps from a trip to Europe to shoot. A film was all the proof necessary that she had not ever done anything. Inappropriate at Grauman's Chinese theater. The problem was that confidential hadn't specified a date when the incident had occurred o'hara's passport may have proved she hadn't been in Los Angeles the previous November. But on the stand to assistant managers confirmed all of the details in the story while acknowledging that they couldn't agree on the exact date it took place. Also, her claim on the stand that she had only been two Grauman's twice both times for movie premieres was disputed by young lady who worked at the grounds, candy counter. The candy counter girl was sure she had seen Herat theater, and it couldn't have been at a premier because the candy counter was closed during premiers. In other words, both sides had their story and stuck to it. Anger claims O'Hara took a lie detector test, which quote did not prove she was telling the truth, but I can't find any other reporting that backs that up Marjorie Meade, Robert Harrison's niece and head of confidential personal spy agency. Hollywood research did offer to take a lie detector test during the trial. But in regards to a story about the producer, Paul Gregory and Liberace offered to take one in his out of court testimony. But as far as I can tell no lie detector tests were actually submitted into evidence at the trial. However, confidential 's lead defense attorney did make much of the fact that Maureen O'Hara was a trained actress, and thus her testimony shouldn't be believed. After six weeks of total testimony. The jury was sent to the embassador hotel to deliberates after seventeen days of sequestration. The longest deliberation in California history to that point the jury announced they were deadlocked. Unable to move beyond vote of seven to five in favor of guilty rather than go in for a second trial. The state of California proposed settlement they would drop the charges against confidential if Robert Harrison paid ten thousand dollars in fines, and if confidential got out of the celebrity expose business. Harrison didn't have much choice confidential network of sources had been destroyed by the trial. Thanks to Rushmore having sold out all of its previous tipsters to the prosecution which made any potential future tipsters too wary to tip. And the magazine which had been banned in California during the trial was now, essentially gray listed because newsstands were afraid of carrying it. In April nineteen fifty eight Harrison announced that confidential would no longer cover Hollywood three months later. He's sold the magazine for a paltry twenty five thousand dollar the magazine continued publishing under new management running headlines like Castro raped. My teenage daughter Howard Rushmore. The former confidential editor turned turncoat found himself after the trial, totally broke. And with a history of selling out his co workers and his professed values to the highest bidder. He was essentially unemployable anger makes what happened next seemed like a direct consequence of the trial. But of course, the trial had only come about. Because of rush Moore's missteps at confidential and his bloody end was the combination of the many dark threads of his life resolving in the same ugly. Not he and his wife Francis were both alcohol IX, and he beat her and around Christmas nineteen fifty seven. She finally left him on January. Second Howard came home and found Francis packing up. What was left of her stuff? He followed her down to the curb yelling when she hailed a cab to leave. He pushed his way into the cab. After her the driver pulled away from the curb, and then the shots wrung out the driver turned his head and saw a blur of blood and guts Howard, Rushmore had shot his wife and then himself. In her book, Maureen O'Hara claims that she won the trial and that her victory as she put. It was the first time a movie star had one against an industry tabloid as I hope we've shown across these two episodes. She couldn't personally win the case in which she testified because it wasn't her trial to win. It was the state of California her libel case was separate and she settled it in July nineteen fifty eight for an unpublished amount of money. Liberace's settlement was reported as forty thousand dollars. So it stands to reason O'Hara got about that much but o'hara's tale of victory survives in part. Because so many people who have written about these events, Kenneth anger included, conflicted. The stars is individual civil. Suits with the state of California's prosecution of confidential. 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"One of these episodes I wanna like do a run before a run. Yeah like we run and then we recorded immediately after you know. I've heard that a heartbeat a quicker. Your heartbeat up fast paced heartbeat is actually a rousing really. Yes actually yeah. They did this study that they they actually increased a person's heart rate and then like put them in a room with a person that they didn't know and they found that they were more attracted to them because their heart rate increasing then if like their heart rate wasn't increased. It doesn't matter who the person was. What do you think that is? I think it's because like our body. has this like a a natural response to the way that it's like triggered by like your heart racing and being nervous and you're like well I'm nervous I like I don't know how to do and so suddenly your body is just like Oh we must be attracted to this person because we are nervous a really maybe. That's why People Jim are always getting together. Maybe you know oh I know someone in every single time. They kept getting all these people from tender tender Israeli successful and she's like it's the gym. The Gym meows people at the gym. Well it's another thing that has to do with with a attractiveness not like hot body but like overall health and like Like working out like if you work out regularly just have a higher sex drive really. Yes elmer saying all of this because I did a shit ton of research on a guess. What O'hare body language specifically the way that we we interact with each other before we get with each other before? I like this so almost today. We're GONNA be talking about before plus before play. The four four plays like people like. Yeah I get it. I understand what foreplay is really. And they're like yeah when I just put a finger up your body minute the four play done and we're here today to tell you there might be something before player. Might be a lot of things that happen before play. I'm going to you see every time we could save more play someone i Satan were paid for. Yeah I like Google it. You talk about Christian if you do these people are have you heard about. That story died obviously steps waiver. Don't have sexy. I don't like on it to get it on selling your daughter learning but like a sexual partner is I love it. It's a hard journey on. Lv What's closest you've gotten to before foreplay. Well I've done before play. Oh well yeah but like there is a point where I get cut off and I haven't actually done any sort of real touching okay because I today. I'm more interested. Get it. People like touching the genitals people watching people people like getting fondling scratching feather feathers flicking. Yeah these are things we've talked about on. This podcast is where you come back. But but today we're GonNa talk about what goes. Outside of the Carousel of genitals. The genitals are care touching genitals today. We've decided not we're not gonNA ever. We're going to talk about what we're going to talk about. What happens when you want to touch them? Yeah and maybe you don't even know you want to touch them yet. Blow Whoa your subconscious is telling you that you WANNA touch. I think I think we want to touch them. Be talked to and you want to be touched but I think I think though what you don't realize that it it will be better if you touch other places I for a while wins heart. This threw up for use Asia brewery dive into that though. We WanNa talk about the history of Applebee's yeah because more special. Oh than an old ancient Roman chocolate covered strawberry that you could buy at the mall. They did that in Roman times they just went to the mall and they bought Olivia. I'm kidding. Oh ooh Oh really chug strawberries. Ancient Roman reused marketplace. They would how would ancient Roman peasant may chocolate. Douglas's strawberries back. Then okay. Strawberries are claimed as an aphrodisiac specifically because they are said to have in ancient Greece they were made from Aphrodite tears because of their red and heart shaped form so little has nothing to do with chemicals nothing to do with. What's inside of the strawberry literally all shape in Rome up to the eighteenth century? Many recipes were based on the theories of the Roman physician galen who I like. Dale sounds. You don't even know his man you're like hitting going to be like a lady named Gail odds are for quoting before the nine thousand nine hundred fifty. It's a man who what is galen saying well. He he said that aphrodisiacs if they were quote unquote warm and moist and also quote unquote. Windy me. Meaning they produced flats you wind. No like like I know I know wins Windy. If it makes what eighty year old say a fart is is just prove exactly so I guess like spices and peppers and carrots and asparagus mustard. ooh There's nothing like Hebei. Let me porce mustard on that hot dog so we can get this train. Pitas guys was warm and moist and Wendy. It was nice I helped turn yawns as far as like the legitimacy of those aphrodisiacs. Like you mentioned asparagus. That's like one that is still known to Quantico Aphrodisiac which is weird because when I think about asparagus I think of like smell EP. Don't we all think of that but yeah it's a pretty big thing you know but apparently apparently it. It's it's an aphrodisiac. Although all of the things that I looked up and researched said that it has like less to do with actual like Libido Edo increasing things like. There's not a one food or fruit. That's going to like make you suddenly like you know what I mean like. It's not going to switch she wan- but there are a lot of food especially fruits and vegetables that do like increase your overall health which then increase your overall sex X.. Drive specifically antioxidant rich foods. They help increase blood flow. And I mean that to everywhere so like cherries like a Pomegranates red wine. Those sorts of foods. That are rich an antioxidants. Help your blood vessels not be still clogged with bullshit bullshit and it helps them move the blood through to the painters or help gorge the clitoris you. You know what I mean it just helps it along. It's not like immediately make you have erect penis. Earning people on right maybe moving. The blood flow L. A.. Cherries red wine rich in antioxidants also wind slash alcohol. We all know it lowers your inhibitions ambitions. It's not actually correlated with an aphrodisiac but it just helps ease you of a shame you experienced about sex. As a child pine nuts oh are rich in zinc and phytochemicals help promote over health but specifically can boost libido so pine nuts put a mature mature On your bedside table Oh also this was interesting. They did a study in two thousand fourteen. That suggested that eating an apple a day Mike Mike keep the doctor away but maybe it won't and what I'm saying that what I mean is if he's hot and single and sexy than it might draw him towards you because as women who ate an apple a day they found that it directly correlated with a better sexual quality of life. You're kidding my we'll we'll get. Oh this woman then definitely has disciplined. She's eating an apple for big Berkey wonky band. Now eat an apple every morning. I'm feeling very inspired. I'm just going to say You know right I think audience. I know you're listening. We give you a lot of information but let me just say it is hard to live this stuff out like not easy. I am not sleeping with anybody. Anybody and I'm too tired to masturbate and this is just everything that the I guess is not about so. Just look what's happening to help you. I'm here I'm giving you directly giving you some food guys to help you. This is a LE`veon's episode. I am I am where I'm I'm right there with you guys like what do we listen. Listen to what's going on to you. Know what you should do. You should bathe in saffron milk. That's what Cleopatra did. Recent studies have actually shown that saffron itself itself Increases Sperm Motilal in infertile men and can decrease some of the sexual side effects from taking certain antidepressants really so no like do that. Saffron infused a pound of Safran is actually worth more than a pound of gold. Yes Francois Expense but also a pound of cepheid that's ridiculous so much saffron. I'm asking you to Bay that you're GonNa need a bit and I need a lot alassio mention this one voice actors. We know wasters. I wrote the whole poem wasters below the whole race sentence Kono it was long but anyways the reason why they are known to be an aphrodisiac not only only because they remind people vaginas cazenove. I didn't know this was like a person or I guess he's an urban legend guy. I thought he was real. He might be real. I don't know but he was the eighteenth century cazenove. This guy was all about always tres. He would like shit voices like every morning. I Know Upright. But apparently that boosted his libido that like boosted his like stamina on he was all fertile and stuff but there's also the story about him passing passing and from his mouth to a woman's mouth end. He seduced her and so so hot. Well that's that's an ova are we. Are we getting them. I I'm sweating. Oh my God oh I wanted to mention really quick like does two things that can That are not aphrodisiacs that includes microwave popcorn and dairy products. What about your own? If you make your own popcorn I make no. It's microwave popcorn specifically so popcorn. That's fine but microwave popcorn not so much and then dairy products because a lot of them are chock full of hormones those manipulate like male and female hormones and are actually like just. They're just bad for the cheese. I love cheese though. Oh Yeah I just think you need to find some cheese. That's not has been fucked with. You know what I mean like. Get some good like organic organic or day Diet. I like dia cheese cheese. Yeah anyway so. That's that wraps it up for aphrodisiacs for me Olivia have you tried any Afridi's yaks I mean dude. You give me oysters and champagne. I am on mobile. I've never ever participated in touching someone. Okay so after pointless so it's pointless and that's what you experienced pleasure pleasure. Oh hundred percent so so you're saying that you could experience sexual sensations just from consuming aphrodisiacs and not even Genitalia area. Yes in my research said there is a definite correlation between eating and deriving emotional nourishment from your partner or yourself like wait. Repeat that There is a definite correlation between eating and deriving emotional nourishment from your partner or just back to the first time I ever bought lube. The Guy in the store was like have you ever used flavored Lou before and I was like no I haven't he was like wait. Hold on back it up. Wait so you're saying you never put ice cream on a penis and then put flavored lube on top and I was like no place cream. What am I if business minutes? I've never felt like such an idiot before like I'm like Oh my God should I even putting as sorry. Sorry as do I need to make a trip to trader Joe's right Baskin Robbins Vanilla scoopers for the ball. I think all the ideas Manley Matt. Hey Babe close your eyes. It's a little cold. You Can Integrate Cherries Cherries and talks about Cherry on top. You have to do this very fast. Ask because it will melt. The ice cream will begin to mail said causing displeasure to your partner They were Beijing very missy. Cold cooled frostbite from eating ice cream out of my hand. I mean we don't know literally could picture sure guys just going. I mean just know guys that before. Play is limitless. I would think that'd be after four. That is subtle ice cream Sunday. That's after four play. Uh Okay how do I know my body is ready. I mean if I'm like just if I meet smart bar feeling I think I'm like I will totally get wet but I like I like I know what's happening at. I like feel flatter a vaginal flutter. It's a delightful internal. I don't know it's a it's a pleasant throb I've been told. They have very beautiful clavicle. So I gotTA show those tie real elementary and then I lean craze the arm but I got no. I got to know that they're in to me or more drinks like it's definitely it's time for me. I'm not interested if I'm Mike. Oh no one drink is good. I'm like I'm GonNa being you tonight. Stuff initially were ordering a couple of weeks crashed a some dudes graduation party. And there's this guy was kind of like I don't know eventually we're sitting on the roof or something and everybody around and I was like you know about his love. Language is touch because he is inches hugging okay just like rubbing my arm and leading places like that and then we're sitting there and he just slowly find his arm down and arresting in on my like Bob uh-huh and I was like you know I think he might. I think he might WANNA touch my bum but without my clothes and it was like one of the first time in my life where I was like. Oh my God this person wants to ask of me and it took a whole probably two hours of him following me around complimenting me touching me and then eventually he just grabbed my ass and I was like Oh God it got it. He came inside and we were sitting together on the couch. Or are we touching. I think was hugging. You ended in some sort of like half. I believe we have trouble breathing and there was like literally like pro palpable tension. And I felt like so so much anxiety like in my stomach and my whole torso and then I was like what he was like. Nothing big and I'll just say I don't know he said a bunch of like kind of like nonsense. I think I might be in love with it was so much tension easily. You you do. I context and then you avoid contact for a while to play hard to get with the eye contact with my sister taught me this growing up. Then then you wait for a while and then later you look again and then did they come over. Maybe so before I get into the intricacies and the list of the things that we can like pinpoint that shows you that like attraction is there what fascinates you most about this topic. I am so curious. I was in the middle of my sexual awakening. NFL very free. Like four years ago and I was so confused. Because I'd be at a bar me and this dude would be like flirting up or girl. We'd it'd be flirting up. It would be so cute I really like I like kissing when people can see like in a bar. I don't care it's hot. There's music playing the like. You're kind of tipsy. Solve the music. Is it Kinda like in your just like it's just hot. It feels like a movie. It's very cinematic. So then they're like you want to go back to my place and you're like yes and everything's fire you're in the car are your hands are grazing each other. There's music in the car you're looking at each other and laughing and the cab driver. Lift driver goes how was your night and you look at each other and you go good and so oh you know it's like all this whole thing and then you get back and then I'd be in the in the room. It's a new place. It smells different. Their decorations are different. There's no music it's just you guys is and they would just jump right in back to where we were and I was at Ground Zero. I was like dry done into them. It's like we've done the foreplay. We've been doing it all night now. I am ready to go and it seems like very normal but for me if I just met them or something like I I was just like how. What's wrong with me? Why am I not lake turned on like and I got really bitter resentment towards them anyway? So I discovered this website website. It's www dot erotic breakthrough dot com and you can take a survey on their erotic survey and a kind of tests you of what you are attracted to because I always thought that if you are naked with another naked body like what's hot what's hot is just like naked on naked old. Well here genitals like you are you. Okay no I know I need so much more than that. No exactly. I discovered through this quiz that that I am not saying. It's like the truth of all truth. But it's a blueprint that I actually related to. And when I got was called an energetic type and this is somebody who's turned on by anticipation teasing space and energy play and they say the person might have already dabbled in sexual practices such as Contra. And things like that. But it's basically like you're into like energetic superpowers. So basically finding this out was a huge breakthrough for me. Because I thought there was something wrong with me that I wasn't turned on but the exact same things as my partner and so some positives of being energetic. Somebody who might get more excited about I contact across a room than they would it. Just naked body was in front of them. Some positives about being like this is. You can be very very sensitive and intuitive person. You can orgasm without even being touched. Ah This we've Hambley is capable of this right and people like any your freaking newsreel and they say you also might value love love emotional connection some shadow ass as specs of this is it can short circuit if touch isn't time to right so that means like if you're touched a wrong way or or something you can take it really aggressively and be completely turned off totally happens to me but I don't know how to communicate that to my partner because it makes me sound insane like how can you go from like sixty two zero so fast you know so but this knowing that this is normal I think guys have this too and I don't know how to communicate to a girl of being like like I was so turned on and I did this thing and I just don't feel like this at all sometimes guys can experience a lot of shame from not being like into the moment anymore and when really it's just like it's not working and it doesn't mean they have a problem or an erectile dysfunction or anything like that it could just be like you're literally not knowing their language yeah some some other side effects you may not be able to concentrate on pleasure if something seems off with a partner if you're so emotionally intuitive and you feel like you're partners mad at you you might not be able to fully get into it it and it can get higher article like my way better way or the more enlightened way which I is right we have this podcast is the right way I know my ways go away sure yeah yeah I mean there's no doubt yes no no basically cited at being like if something's not working for you maybe there is another option there is another way to enter into sexuality or each other or your body and your partners that isn't what you might think yeah who who might they be if you find that they are not your type they are a different type what potentially type what type B so there's four types at least for this website the blueprint for the erotic breakthrough dot com quiz. You can go on there. Take the quiz the energetic which we talked about. And then there's the sensual wall which could be like I'm GonNa pour fruit on your body and then outline you with an ice cube and then whisper poem in your ear and it could be then. There could be this sexual where it's just like every movie you've ever seen saint like that's what I'm picturing this sexual like and which is hot and don't get me wrong. You could be all of these in a little bit of each on Wednesdays. You're an energetic on Fridays. Your the sexual joie where you're like. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA make real moans on the podcast is that is so awkward. That would be weird. She'll say the picture picture for like the central is literally a woman with fruit around her and being like fed a champagne. Glass picture of me that was taken on my laptop with filter. And then there's the Kinky. I think people mistake me to think. I'm like super into the Kinky we maybe I I'm not. I taken the King Quiz. There's some people that are like vanilla strapped me down take spatula slap me with Yup Yup take some like Christmas lights like rabbit around my feet. Turn it on straight through fire. Daddy Daddy the podcast. So it's all about just like realizing it and then finding a middle ground you know like we make fun now but like also also trying to be like if you really care about the person or the person's really hot you know you're right. They're really high. That's for sure giving Livia. We've talked a lot about feeling yourself knowing what you lie discovering what your into but the thing is we want somebody else there right now. Let's we're ready to pull someone no one else in. How do I know if somebody is into me? Willing and ready to dive into my sphere. Yeah well since we're in this embodiment went series. I like to. I like to think about the fact that like our bodies will do things for us. Our bodies our subconscious minds are doing things things with our bodies that are indicating to another person that we are sexually ready that were sexually open to them that we want into them and their bodies will respond accordingly. If they're also sexually ready attracted open all of those things and I find that fascinating and I like this to Olivia because this can also be applied to people who are already in relationship because sometimes even though you go in and out like you you know each other you see each other. Sometimes you can be stuck in a place of. I don't know if they want me right now. I don't even know if they like me right now. How can I read them again? Like I used to so so I think it does apply to before relationships and even during. Yeah I'm imagining. I'm picturing like when couples are like. Let's pretend like we're strangers unless like blitzkrieg go to a bar and I'm going to be sitting at the bar and then like whoa pretend that we don't know each other and then they do that little cute little thing where they play act and then they like find a hotel and like do it and stuff. People do that I once researched motels with this guy. Because we're doing some pretty fun stuff with each other Hashtag choking No it was more than that though it was more than giant choking as more like lovingly. Feeling like I was getting murdered. I know it's really cool. So is that something that they're talking about the psychological. I'm fascinated by that. I think I can't tell if it was healthier. Not Bullet definitely have to dive into but anyway kinks. Thanks so there. I was at work researching motels that were still expensive. We're talking seventy five and then it's just so gross like the things things that people leave behind. We're talking dirty. Napkins USA forks. Oh it's not as sexy as it sal. A wrinkled blanket you get no okay. I'm sorry I mentioned motels. Go High Class Lease Ryan Reignite. The fire go high class anyways body language saw aw parties like an easy example. Because it's like you don't know me I don't know you but apparently and this has been studied it has been suggested so that body language constitutes more than sixty percent of what we communicate so learning to read. The nonverbal cues people. Send his valuable skill for one thing and research shows as we know if we want to sleep with someone within the first thirty seconds of meeting them I love bursary seconds and it's even shorter in that span of time. I think it's about like six seconds and this is like subconsciously happening like you're not like one two three four five six. Nope it's like six seconds your your subconscious will tell you if this is like someone that you would be attracted to you like I read this story Of the students that they were shown thirty second videos of different teachers and they voted or like guests on which teachers would be like the highest rated by the class at the end of the year and they were showing thirty second videos ten second second video six seven second videos and this amount of time they were all completely correct in guessing which teachers would be the ones that students would like the most at the end of the year here. They were able to tell you. So our subconscious like you ought to be careful with some a bit. But our bodies no things about like the attractiveness of a person for you specifically so so a lot of it has to do with The way our bodies interact fascinating. I feel like I think too much. We ignore that because we're worried Out People's feelings we're so alone will settle for whatever so we don't listen to that intuition that says no you should listen. Listen to it for sure. does only depend on how hot quote unquote you are. It really doesn't like if you're hot you're boring you're unattractive like it's just like let's be real but really research has shown that the most attractive trait in a person is their availability. which was really surprising to me because I always thought like Oh someone one that looks like unavailable unattached? It's the chase when really like if you have disturbed six second assessment of someone. What's what's going to get you to actually like connect and find that person sexually desirable if that person makes himself available to you? Wow which is indicated aided by their body language and I'm really bad at this like I'm very bad at this well. I'm getting better but I used to be like very closed off because I was afraid and closed closed office is not attractive. Because I'm telling you know right and so then they're not gonNA come up and talk to me. Even though I'm like please talk to me. Please break my barriers. Please God you do what you you just can't tell so. I'm very very bad at the hill. I'm walking away from you but really I wanted to stay me. So I'm not not good at that and I'm trying to be better but availability. Aka Openness is very attractive. I literally feel like I'm having the opposite problem. I feel like I am too available. which attracts a lot of people? Yes but for the long game. Suddenly those people who are close to you they go wait. I thought I was special official and I want to be like no you are special. I have a problem like I. Just can't stop making myself available to all these people but I have a fear of closing the doors. 'cause I recently did that with someone like my doors are open. They invited me inside and they were close the other doors. Clearly there's a yeah and then they go smi and then I'm like well now all those doors are closed to go fucking open them. You know what I'm saying I am. I say to certain bulow there. You are a special and maybe work good wall when you're talking to remind it reminded me of my best friend. See my best friend not me. Well why why would you remind me of you like someone. I Love A lot. More wound venue. No no so one of my best friends one of them. I'm hearing when you. She is very open and people come up to all the time because she's very open and like personal very friendly. Yeah she loves and Will Admit Mitch loves attention. She loves the attention. She loves knowing that someone finds her active even if she's like Nah and I don't like that if I know I'm like a hard hard no I'm like close. The doors be so gross to them like doing like just sending them all the like. No no no no I will say say though some alluvial how how do we deal with this like it. Seems like sometimes when someone's on Indus somebody and they keep fighting the other person eventually they'll get them and that works irks them out. I guess we shouldn't give advice of like if someone's doing this don't go for it because there's like babies that are made on this earth because of people go sore it will wait for you. Yeah like a guy like Noah and like nobody everyday very year Ryan gosling really odd. So this advice that you're giving or tips about body language. It's more so. How can we better open up? Yep Our cells. Yeah I've been. We'd be more intentional with our body. So if someone's closing themselves off we're not saying don't go for this is more for you if you want to open yourself up. Yeah I would much rather talk about the situation in which like. You're both like it's go time then like the situation. We're in there like it's time but I'M GONNA make it go to that. I don't like that episode. I know so I wanNA think of a situation which I find someone extremely attractive and suddenly. We're doing this beautiful little dance. Oh my God are we. This happening services happened recently. Olivia was at a costco in a certain a really really cute guy. Judging from the gas coming out of her face I forgot about Costco. Said hello to her. And what did you do. And they scenario freaked out okay. I got really nervous and I freaked out. What is your body? Do my body. My body was my okay so my okay I know the proper steps. I'm just not quite bold enough yet to approach someone. That's I find that attractive. So what what I did in the Costco is. I was trying to get in his line of sight which is definitely an indicator that someone is interested is if they keep passing your line of sight all the time or like they're like in proximity. DOC symmetry of you strangely oddly. They're just like going to the bathroom. It's like no no no. They probably did it on purpose. especially if they're looking at you so what I did is I got myself in his line of sight quite a few times. We'll go look at the Hawaiian rolls because he was over by yourself. Open Tim you've got an I did not approach. I got near near him. I did not approach him. I just wanted him to see me because we were both two single people at Costco. That are not only single. That's hilarious. I looked at his hand to see if he I had a ring on it. And you know so to a Livia if you're not married you're not a chance there's a chance it sounds like if there's a chance I'm GONNA take it. So what happened was I took the bold move to be behind him at the checkout my body. My Body responded with such nervousness that I found that I was clutching my Hawaiian rolls so so hard and I started shaking. Even though it didn't look like I was shaking. I was like trying to be like smiley an open but also like I got really nervous. And so when the time came when he was talking to the cashier and opened himself up to me when he looked back and smiled directly at me and he kept saying cuss words. Because I think he was nervous. cuss word yeah he kept saying Holy Shit he did not need keep saying Holy Shit Makoto what he was looking at the expense of Costco and said Holy. We should look at this place. He was a new member. If you're out there so sorry I couldn't talk to you. I wanted to talk to you so bad but I physically couldn't talk because I was so nervous. He was offering me to participate in this conversation with him. The cashier because his body was turned towards me. He was opened towards me. He kept looking at me to invite me into the conversation. I didn't take the chance to be so his body. Language was good. So how have done it differently. Tell us what to do do well in that situation. I should've said words. I should've started talking to him. I should have liked teased. A little bit flirt a little bit and they used him. What would you have said teased him about? The fact is new member of Costco and he didn't know nothing about FRIGGIN COSCO. Geffen new new. That here being ill Oh thank you like that. I would not have done that. That's that's too far too fast but then we would have walked out together. We would walk to our cars together and he would have asked me out. That's what would have happened in the ideal world. I totally see that Seattle possibility. Yes and you just I just feel like you can tell if the chemistry is right you can tell and like there's definitely a couple times where I've like. I know I'm on the fence ants but I'm like I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA go like I'm like I can tell he's into it. I'M GONNA go for and that ends up like I've never fully satisfied that situation. ooh I'm now learning. I have to trust my gut if I'm like at the bar and I'm thinking I'm on the fence. They're probably it's not. I'm going to do it for me. I always think I'm going to convince myself or that. They're going to convince me that I'm actually attracted to them. I think I know mmediately. That's what's going to happen or it's not and there's this one guy friends and he like was dancing with someone else but was looking at me. I was like. Oh He's looking at me and then these were like sick. Dead Body is certainly towards me and it was. This is like the instant like Oh i. Contact Body labored follows. A going to break. I walked in the door and I knew to my left. See this just gorgeous man. He's learned Vassallo shorts breath and a t shirt but he is reading a newspaper so it was like hot and he also had a book and his phone was no insight and I was like. I don't even want kids but have your like I was so into it and he looked at me as soon as I walked in and I was like. Oh my God is just like it was so incentives incentives one of those things. where it's like I can't even? I can't stop looking at you going in order my drink and I sit down. And he's at one and the other and so we can't see each other and I'm sitting down and and then I leaned forward and start to read my book and I see him lead forward and look over at me and we make eye contact with a second and then like I'm like I get nervous. I Lean Back Anyway and then twenty minutes later. I'm like okay. I'M GONNA. He hasn't come over. He hasn't lean forward. I'm going to go up and get sugar and check out the situation so I get up and get sugar And turn around and I see him and make contact again and I'm like it on weren't enough. Follow up today so I'm going out I'm like take. I'M GONNA walk out the door Caracas table. It'd be says hi like and I will say hi and like here. We go you cute mellow story. So I'm walking out and I like a little bit pasta but not all the way and then I like feel the Connecticut Energy of him looking up like I felt to Eddie looked up and we made eye contact. He goes high and I was like hi it just kind of awkwardly stop and go what are you reading. And he's reading a book on racial tension in America in like my pants immediately. It's so important to you. And he was like you could tell you. Talk Doc. was that low starbucks table. Couldn't handle it talking for probably like five to ten minutes and then he goes really quick. I think you're so beautiful and I totally ask you out. But I'm engaged and I was like what so I'm going to give you a little list to start before play and detail a little bit in this list about signs that will help you know that they're down to cloud loud down clown down on open to them that we want them and their bodies will respond accordingly if they're also sexually ready attracted open all of those things and I find that fascinating so I'm going to give you a little list and detail a little bit in this list about signs. That will help. You know that they're down to clown downed clown now so mentioned this before but open body language to like like an open torso specifically will like indicate to you that your body is open and ready to go so like removing a purse from in front of you. If you're a woman removing a purse you also move that away from in front of you open wherever Iran. Yeah whatever you're carrying so just like if you see that someone is removing objects from inbetween you. It's showing that they want to be closer to you and they want less objects in between the two of you love that and also hands like open hands or like we love to see people's hands and if you can't see someone montanes you're like I don't trust them. What are they doing with those hands? If you see someone's hands a makes them feel like your more trustworthy or you can see their hands and also also can indicate more openness especially if like the risks are turned out ed mostly for women as well because there is something about like the softness of of our wrists that are attractive yet. That's the thing. Can they smell blood more easily. Mean Fair moans. The risks do give off more like like if you put perfume on your wrist like you're able to smell it more so I can only guess that like you're pumping you're pumping you're pumping it out. Also this is a thing to exposing in your neck brushing brushing your hair back or just making yourself just more open so like as I keep saying open but I'm trying to tell you of it that like if have you brush especially if you brush like your hand across your neck or or a man touches this channel lot or touches your face a lot these give off fair Moshe skyser attached to my face their face their own face among touching your face introduce like. Hey how's it going kisses you. I think he's into I don't know like grabbing your face in his hands and telling you how beautiful you are I assure personally if he's down down that's what I would. I'm still not sure for guy touches. His face he's doing his face a lot if touching her neck like a lot these like literally of your subconsciously brushing your Ramon up towards them. Yes I love this is real just and I can't wait to the next time you and I are in the same room talking to a dude. You can't see me but I'm like Hanley is all risked nine fiercely brushing my neck and I'm just like I usually guy I'm like is your skin scratchy. You WanNa Scratch Your Chin wanted to touch your touch your face touch your face your face I love when you touch your face to touch your anyways. Yeah so touching your face your neck is just it's more sensual. It's like you know like laughing women or like I'm a man. Yeah I don't know all these are indicators that tell you open I'm harmless. I'm interested. I'm approachable I'm fertile Paul. So I'm GONNA move onto the is the is are the nipples of the face as as. Yeah that's the arms of the angel. It has nothing to do is is is of the Angel Oh no the eyes of the nibbles the face that is a quote unquote record labels fe. I don't think you know that song very well. Now I do. I don't think Me Okay is there the nipple of the face nipples of the face but mainly the is the window to the soul. That's the that's the more poetic way to say it. Neither for the guy by all slowly and a circular you want him to know. That's why I say is the is if they're attracted you you say start licking your eyeballs. That's a sign that they're attracted to you. I'm Joe Okay. So if you see that their eyebrows race it's split-second thing point five seconds. If like you see someone from across the room and their eyebrows go up. That means they're down now. I'm not joking because this is the the thing if you see that it's a subconscious indicator that they're into you even before they can cognitively recognize that they're into you. Raising eyebrows allows more light into the is to get a better look at the desired person for one thing it also pulls the is open and allows more light to reflect off the service of the is also making them look brighter larger and more inviting always raise. My is my rose. Only if you're super down so if you like you might notice that when you're when you're talking to someone that you're attracted a to like there is might be a little more superwide George in an opening the eyes open your eyes. And they'll know that you are wanting wanting to suck their engine okay making eye contact. That's the next one. We kind of know this one though. Like if you see someone across the room and they keep glancing over you especially if they keep glancing over and then you reciprocate with prolonged eye contact. Oh yeah but not too long. Because that's that's weird if it's like your actually staring at someone because some people might find that as a threat so yes it is weird. It's weird most people find anything more than intermittent eye contact. I five seconds out of every thirty seconds uncomfortable or threatening and we'll probably look away. So that's your that's your inbetween thing you can gradually increase. You're like the longer the gays if it's being reciprocated. You're like Oh this person's down I'm GONNA like keep kind of looking at them for a little bit longer and look away in a little bit longer. If you keep doing that. Usually people start making out the eye contact playing we are he has guys. Usually the contact helps to kiss. Because if you're just scratching watching faces all night people are GonNa think you've got mosquito bite eventually to face events legit face. They'll have to take a deep breath and dairy yourself to continue staring right totally and so like that. Plus someone opening their body up to you then you know. It's go time so one of US got to walk over to the other person and once you do you when you do that. There's more to contact as well. This is interesting which it makes sense. You know you're finally talking to the person and you find that the their gaze flits flits from one to the other. That's a sign of attraction. Then if it goes from in a triangular emotion on one to the other to the mouth to the other I then they wanna make hang out with you know like you kinda get that if they keep looking at your lips also known. Yeah Yeah Yeah so oh that plus bedroom is do we know. Bedroom eyes are so bedroom is like that's sort of like if you tilt your head down and you look at someone that they call like Doa is as well. That's another thing that makes your eyes look more moist open glistening wet and windy wet and windy and that's also an indicator of like sexual desire. Is Wes and I hate everything. Don't Oh God stop it. No one knows everyone right now. You may be driving having your car about to fall asleep. We should scratch your chin. Pop your wrist and then look down look up and use your other hand to flick your neck towards them. This one super interesting okay. So this next one is called enacting making lustful motions. But like you're not actually making any like Russell humping a couch you all. The this is science. Can't argue it out in this licking of the neck and the stroking. What a shame insomnia just do you can imagine? Well okay so what. This actually is is really interesting so if someone is like holding a wine glass and they start to the wine glass like if a man holding a can of beer because mentoring one they only drink bear No I know some sexy as me and who love a good glass of wine. Hey Hell so whether it's the time they put it in their mouth. No no no no no no well committee. Yes but mostly if they're like if they're caressing whatever object they're holding yeah and specifically like this is what they said for men for like if they're attracted to a woman if they start to like roll the can a little bit in their hands or they like charest the can or they start lightly squeezing we can really is like a sub-conscious indicator of what they WanNa do to your kids I love that he espn. I should say breasts. Shouldn't I would like to do to your breasts slowly. Squeeze we'll also okay so it's not only that but if like so say if I like how to wind glass like unconsciously caressing my one glass is basically an indicator saying like I would like q two stroke. We like this or I would like to stroke you like this. This is like I do that. I mean 'cause I by now but I'll start like straight up like Frenching my nail. That goes out. Don't do no no. That's literally my next one is like if someone like a woman in particular if they start to liquor purse their lips into like a kissing shape or like touching their lips. Allot your lips are really sensitive parts of your body. So if you're like starting to touch sensitive parts of your body it's not only like arousing you do for yourself but it's also indicating then that's where you would like to be touched your in your guys if you're trying to attract a guy touch yourself where you want him to touch you so appropriate displaying pointing. It's like a subconscious like point towards parts of your body that you want people to notice so I'm literally literally not getting that like you're not physically pointing to your Dick what you're GonNa do if you're a dude with Dick is you're gonNA stand with your hips forward and your legs right outward more more okay displaying your crutch that's awesome. Yeah or it's just like sitting and like your your legs out or like your your legs crossed. Yeah Yeah also of your legs are crossed towards the person. That's another indicator that they're like towards you. It's basically just like displaying attractive. Parts of your body you should see me lighting into eternity. Vodka Sodas in sitting down bench. Like it's like. Hey Emily can you squeeze your elbows any closer to literally. Yes like you're bending over and laughing and you're just like squeezing squeezing everything with all your minds no that's actually like they constantly subconsciously. Yes I have no idea. What's going on? That actually has to do a lot with fertility tilleke which is kind of obvious but like so. It's called faking it. Obviously you're faking. That you're more fertile is like so men will do is they will like obviously they'll flex more they'll like position their arms more in a way that makes their muscles look bigger and when they're standing up straight makes them look taller. This is all about fertility and women. I'm an obviously like if you put your elbows closer to you and you're making your boobs look bigger or like you suck in your stomach and make your stomach or whatever all of these things are like about like fertility tilleke things quote unquote. So I don't think a flat timing has to do for Tillotson Capitalistic America. I know it's more about indicating indicating health infertility. We gotta go. which is a bunch of bullshit because like literally woman's Pooch is for to protect their their womb? Honestly me me eating all the French fries. I do and Miss Petunia down the street. Who Does Cross written for breakfast dinner? She might be a little more healthy than me and I have to be like. That's fine we don't know about her. Her jared also if you're a dude and you WANNA eat French fries with me all make you. We're going to so from evolutionary perspective. Humans humans are tuned into body. Language cues that signal for youth. These can be emphasized with your body language for men standing up straight squaring the shoulders planting feet slightly Lee more than shoulders with the part and displaying hands are all sides of fertility for a woman. Keeping your hair down tilting your head to expose pheromones like I said your hands and risk visible to display soft skin highly attractive for men and not to mention. Faking it with the making your boobs. Look bigger sticking your butt out. I don't know all these the things that we all know interesting because like torquing is like so huge. And I'm like you're literally just showing guy how you will be on top of them. It's really it's truly talent. I was seeing this guy and he was like I feel like you could work in Utah Work and I'm like no. He's like a youtube it. I've youtube it wasn't a pretty sight trying to wasn't either. I tried to practice. You're like you know wiggling fingers on. I don't want to just practice by myself in in front of a mirror. How does girls getting so good? They practice in front of them here. Yeah okay guys so if you can't work like just do the risks thing and like squeeze as your elbows in and then guys when you point and make big gestures make sure it's always gestured towards your penis. I'm not saying that exactly so it's very primitive. All of these. These things and there are ways to manipulate your body to make you look like you are more capable than maybe you potentially actually are. That's what people do so the the last couple. No one's talked about a little bit preening. When you're you're fixing your hair is someone's fixing their body around you if they're brushing things off of themselves? That aren't even they're like. They're kind of brushing dust up their shoulder. That's another thing that's like. Oh you're trying to look clean and better in front of me playing with. They're trying to fix it. Looked good for you leaning in obviously. That's another sign if they keep leaning in or tried to get closer to you with their eyes that are super wide yet. They're down touching touching. That's either accidental or on purpose so if someone keeps like accidentally dental touching you they're reaching for something to keep accidentally brushing your shoulder a brushing your back or brushing your arm. All I'm just trying to reach for this thing over here again and again that is also so either subconscious or conscious indicator that they like want to be in contact with you. Or if they're literally just touching a lot as well like your mom laughing and then you'll indulging laundering me. Obviously that's the sign that attracted to you. We all know mirroring So that's like you find that someone has to keep talking to them. They keep copying things that you do or like copying gestures that you do design that they not only want you to be comfortable around them but also they're like indicating that they like these things about you so they're trying to make you like doc comfortable and at ease around them because Oh we're so similar similarity principle we remember. These are great tips for evenly networking. Just for sure. Sure Meeting New People this is indicators yeah last but not least body direction I only handed it a little bit earlier but like if their feet are pointed towards you if their bodies pointed towards you in a group of people that you're talking with your like why why are we. Why are we both angled towards each other even though someone else's talking it's because you so you WanNa you wanted to do and if your shoulders are squared like if it's just Youtube WanNa want if your shoulders are square towards them and you're not offering any space for anyone else to get into this conversation? You were indicating to the whole room to stay away right. One's mind and so also if you see other people enjoying that moment do not infiltrate. The square aren't infiltrate the square unless we know the square is bad for one of such parties. You probably intuited that beforehand about the square. Beware of the square and that is all. That's all I've got for you. I'm sure there's many more little things that you might notice but those those pretty much sum it up so basically also when this is happening enjoy enjoy it and know that the sex dance has begun even before the bedroom. When you're in that bar townhall meeting and in the office a lift left a shared lift pool like you are already dancing enjoy it? Yeah and and your body will tell you to you have feelings about out things and so you can know you know in those those. My problem is what happens once the vibes are there. And you can't talk to the Costco. Boy that's what I need help with and I I hope we can go into that next time or at some point please help me I will live. I'm excited. I look forward to that day when you can help me go through the next steps APPs. 'cause I'm stuck. You're going to get your square dance. I'm going to get my grades. You did well guys is making love and growing up. I'm emily and I'm sweating profusely. Oh is that a sign are you into this. I'm into this if I had a dollar home to couch. Dared into someone's eyes you guys. This has been making love and growing up. We Really Hope you've enjoyed today's episode. 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We had a chance to talk to the show screenwriter and director earlier in the week so stick around to hear that conversation at the end of the episode. Hello and welcome to my favorite murder long-form. That's Georgia Heart Star. And we're good at this Steve and on the ones include we're all here everybody. Everyone is here meaning their own houses and they're away from each other as far away as possible. We've all moved to the four corners of Los Angeles County. I live coma. Georgia went down to Downey. Stephen went back to his old apartment in Alabama student. Huston commute informality umbrella. Dude is it. Is that necessary? They had a nice target station. Ara Stephen sent us a article this week and I was seriously heartbroken. That Soup Plantation is shutting. Down it's a problematic name and yes so maybe best case the name is never going to be resuscitated now. It's you gotta what what made. We laughed so hard We you know we talk about. Sue Plantation on there used to be one near. Georgia's old apartment and then Stephen. Let us know on the text thread. That that's where he brought his girlfriend whose professional chefs to on their first date. He brought her to sue plantation classiest even and then he sent me back the best gifts of Manny from modern family. Drinking littlest press up. You can't be out. You cannot be in the exactly right network family if your gift game isn't a fucking eighth less. It's very competitive and I would say Georgia you're amazing and cast. Stephen is legacy because he's young. It's like you have them at the ready right. I picked like the first one I put in a word pick like the top three one of that but Stevens like deep cut gifts. Yeah of course my phone. The sabers you've always got the Kim k. p. around that it just fits everything everything it's perfect. It's like the best beige color in the world. Where it just fits and Dashing Aria. We're talking about. She's peeking around the corner. Maybe we'll put it on. The instagram gave her peak. And it's just it's perfect feeling. We've definitely posted it before you talked about this a lot but like there's a she's got a look on her face. That might be playful and you know like A. She's full of beans except for that. There is actually no expression on her face except for teeth. So then you're you can interpret anything you can project anything onto cam case face and it works and we have then Georgia. There was the time where you had the cartoon guy that looked like it was from like total eighties cartoon and it was like someone told us we did something good. I think this might have been an Asian thread and you just had this cartoon guy that looked like was going like noodling guy with an electric guitar jealous. Air like a air jealous like an air guitar going. Nice riff riff. Yes perfect. Like a pro apprisal riff word. I had done the very like I done. One of those beyond say queen gifts. Yeah and it was just expected. It's like you can do it. That's fine but everyone does those but says you know according to tell me your secret according to events. I'm actually really good at guitar playing chords and like it's kind of one of our things like if. I want to make Vince laugh. I hate telling secrets point like do it. No I'll do someday. I'd say Sunday when we have a live show and all this is over. I ll okay how about I promise our I live show back. Oh do the fucking guitar yes please. What a celebration. That's going be I you know. I almost tweeted this today because first of all thank you everybody for all your lovely. They wishes Y- to me. It was it was an it was horrifying and it was Monday but I stayed off. Because it's I think it's very cheesy when people think every single person or whatever but it was really just so lovely and people said really nice things and it was just cool. Yeah and then. I was going to tweet this morning. I was going to be like thank you so much and thank everybody and then say It's just so sad that I can't on tour I can't go out and do my Molly Shannon impression impression and do the Sally o'malley kicked. I'm fifty kicks strategy But then I so. It's so sad then I realized that would make it look like I was trying to make the people who hadn't sent me a birthday. Wish like There could be an guilt implication. I was like just leave it all alone but I did get sad. Yuqing about how it used to do that on stage that we don't get to lake I non public and name soon on the actual day of you being fifty and you've done this on stage. You don't get a kick your legs out and yelling fifty. Vince brings out of a fucking tray of whatever. Some really nice person brought US backstage. Like donuts it's Jerusalem with candle in it and then the the fire Marshall has to follow. There's I've had. I think either two or three birthdays in a row on the road. Yeah I mean at least two guys guys. We missed you while we have another month until I turned forty. So and then we're just GONNA go rogue that may don't have you like these are liberty. Can I talk about? I told you this before and I wasn't sure if I should just throw her under the bus like this but my mom asked me if I want to go to lunch this week. I Miss Her lunches where we talk all the time. Which by the way I have fucking yelled at her at so many of those. She doesn't remember what they're like or she likes it now. Her way of communicating and I was like. I can't go to lunch with you because everything's closed and I'm corn. We're quarantining and yet let's have a nice like like zoom happy hour and she was like. I WANNA see your face in person and I WANNA hold a big sign over my head that says Cova. Nineteen is alive sick. Thanks mom thinks Janet. Let's go celebrate this airborne illness together Public Hashtag. I'm reading a book called EMOT- emotional immature parents and how to deal with them. Wherever how's it going? I'm doing great. It's called changes. Oh I don't know like emotionally immature parents. That don't remember is going to be your book for the New Book Club. It's tell them about the one of my one I want. That's for that's a pick and choose. Yeah you have to. It has applied. You make sense to you I told Georgia I want to restart the concept of the Book Club. We the last time which was very early in the first year and we tried to get everyone to read V. C. Andrews my sweetwater which was We respect the the the legacy S. V. C. Andrews is a legend. She ruled the Eighties. It was an unreasonably bad. How STRANGELY DIRTY. Strange via a lot of incest themes not even incest. The whole thing and chest yes. It wasn't a suggestion happening on the pay cash. Trae very odd. I felt embarrassed that that was my pick but lots of people wanted to do it. And so since we're we're consuming so much more right Everything goes to Georgia. Let's resuscitate the slang. Let's get it back up on its legs and Read a book so yeah. We're each going to tell you the book were currently reading. And if you feel joining us then we can bring it up occasionally and talk about it but it's the it's again podcasting is one way street. So we'll tell you what we think about the book and that's about it and you can comment on twitter and instagram. How you feel about it yes exactly right and then tell us what we should renege which is cool completely and if you get your comments in and we collect them up in time we can pretend anyone's yeah have a whole. You know what Stephen might be able to bring some book club music up under an end maybe sound effects like we're all drinking wine and someone's weird living room and talking and actually having a booklet. Let's just work we'll work it through. Let's workshop it. But here's the thing I'm reality rating. Currently the reason I got excited about this is and also I tell my dad because my dad reads books in like two days on his kindle so I just told him to read this one so he's going to do it to Jim and right how home German fall from the lobbyists I send him the Listener Art Whoever made the art for Home Jim let me find it? Looks Like Your Dad. And there's one photo of him on the entire Internet and somehow make mode you hard. It's a mood. Make Moody drew this incredible Fan Art and it fucking looks like your had. It looks like it looks can laughing to which my favorite part but when I eat texted that art to him And he was like walk. The hell is this. It took me ten minutes to explain like how I was like Dad. I told the story of me asking you what you thought about pretty. It was a whole thing that he couldn't get through his head because he doesn't understand how they did it that fast. He doesn't understand why they would care a whit remember what he said. He doesn't remember the conversation. But he was really impressed. Awfully excited and then sorry sidebar. Before I tell you the book he told me this story. He's getting all the carpet. Which is so exciting me and my sister. God Childhood Yes they're holing up all that old Mauve. I mean like Lima Holy Ladies Carpet. That has wine stains and sandwich. Ause molly over study which remains maybe like a little mold by the sliding glass door where the rain came in. I'm you know it's all pulled up and he put in hardwood floors and the men next level rate of sprucing up your place. I know an annex like he's you know it's like it was like his project but so it's a father son team that are putting in these hardwood floors and so there had my dad's talking to the son. The younger guy I mean sounds like I think my sister's age but they're saying they're talking. He's looking at the pictures. Whatever and my dad has wait when we played Louisville listeners who worked at Louisville Slugger Bat Yeah Louisville slugger the key the factory and they. They made me Georgia and Vince. All our own personal is even now smart. Stick Sorry Louisville. Everybody Stephen We're GONNA GET YA. Ya Gorge a alive back so it's my dad. Has It in a glass box mounted on the wall like you save room or something and you hit the fucking home run with it own my God for real and this was the you remember when we got those I called him. He'd be so excited and he kept going. Where'd you find it and I'd be like good place made and I was like so infuriated but once he had it in his hand and understood. It's it says my favorite murder. It's got our logo and then it has a quote in the back. I think different quotes off the coolest gift. So so when he finally saw he'd is thrilled and then he mounted it. In in the foyer. Like it's a sward on also it's it's our sword but so they're standing in are talking about the other pictures and then the guy goes. Oh It's this did you get. Did you buy this battery? And he goes no. That's my daughter's podcast. They gave it to her as a present any looks over and goes into that show. Shut your mouth yes. We got guy putting in the floors fan. Oh my gosh. He thought that I grew up in Sacramento. So he didn't he's from Petaluma to he's known our family but I think he assumed I was a cousin or maybe like I don't or just not related. So he he was his mind was blown and so when I sent my dad the Home Gym Art Eagles. Oh I got this. I got to show the floor guy. He's GonNa Freak out like now. He's my dad's again in the whole the whole culture of it. All of that is to say the book. I'm reading right now. Yes serious hours murder fraud and the last trial of Harper Lee. Oh I have that in my to to read lists yes? It's really good okay. I think there might be a copy of the office for you. We're not going MARKOVA. Nineteen I were covered. Nineteen moved into when? We got of Clark's it and you get do some Lysol wipes for Georgia but it's The author is Casey Set C. E. P. And it's so you know. Harper Lee wrote Tequila mockingbird and then she helped trim capote right in cold blood and research it and stuff and then this was basically. It's about how she came back to her home state and maybe even hometown. 'cause I'm I'M ON CHAPTER TO To cover this trial. That's unbelievable this this criminal trial and it's so well written. There's it's so fascinating I love freedom and obviously nonfiction right which has funds correct historical nonfiction yet nonfiction but also historical this seventies shirt long ago. Okay that's perfect because I'm reading. I'm reading like a fiction. Mystery Thriller Book Salako. Yeah you get a choice. 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There's article on medium by Delauney are Bartlett Washington Post by Paul Duggan. There's so many good articles about this out there. This Texas monthly article. And there's an episode of this really great show Vanity Fair confidential that I watch that's about side show because it's it's on. Yeah no I think you can get like the issue channel like APP and all of them. It's I mean I think we've talked about this Vanity Fair confidential if you're into true cry even if it's a story you've heard a thousand times. Their version of it is unbelievably. And you don't like Corny reenactments you WanNa hear from multiple sources. It's it's like journalism. Yeah because these are Vanity Fair writer. This is the Honor Society of Journalism. Right and then. They interviewed the local journalists. It's it's a good show. It's so good so I watched that. There's also a show Netflix. Show made for netflixing twenty six seventeen called the most hated woman America in America. That's like they based on it but there's some things but I have the WHO plays who just in case. You need it okay. Great so now star starring Kathy Bates. It would have been great but like no. Yeah okay sorry she well. Let's 'cause she should okay so madeleine? Her is madeline. Marie O'hare Madeline was born on April Thirteenth Nineteen nineteen in Pittsburgh. She's baptized and raises a Presbyterian in an upper middle-class family until the nineteen twenty nine stock market crash and her family fucking lost everything in her twenty. She enlists in For World War Two and serves as a cryptographer and the women's Army Corps and when she stationed in Italy she meets. The student has an affair with him. His name is William Murray Junior and he's married officer and she gets pregnant with his baby. But he's a staunch Catholic so he refuses to leave his wife. Divorce isn't allowed. So maybe that's sheeting is also not allowed right. I don't know how it works that way. So he refused to marry her. She takes his last name anyways. So she becomes that's where she becomes. Madeline Murray and when she comes back to the US she gets birth to a son and names him William and so his his name. His name's bill so it's his name is Bill Murray. Oh essentially went on to be hilarious so back home. Maybe that's okay baby. Maybe the Catholic part is what made her become an atheist. Maybe just she already was. Jeff Yeah she's like Fuck Shit so back home. Madeline gets a law degree from the South Texas College of Law and she moved with her son. Bill Murray to Baltimore and then on November Sixteenth Nineteen fifty four. She has a second son named Jon. Garth Murray bothered by an ex boyfriend so she has two kids so one morning in nineteen sixty as the tail goes. She's taking bill to junior high bill. Martin junior high to enroll in classes in Baltimore and she hears the students reciting the Lord's prayer at the start of the class. And she's like. I don't want my son doing that. He's he's not religious and they put. They refused to excuse him. From saying the Lord's prayer so in a radical move she takes Baltimore School Board to the Supreme Court. Yeah to fuck and talk about the church and state separation. Yeah so you mean what? Our country was founded alright separation of church and state so important. And this is a time though. It's the nineteen sixties. When most I think most Americans consider themselves religious? In some way there was a lot there was moral majority. There was just you know how you do. Things and religion especially Cathal seems like Christian religions obvious Christian religions yeah Christian religions or were huge and so Because I that's I mean that's the thing that they my. My mom used to bring that. But she's like these people that fight for prayer in school right there never talking about anything from the Torah now earn their never talking about anything. Muslim they when they think of prayer. It's only the Christian. Point of view is right so myopic and yet so the anyway sorry. That's exactly no I want. I need this in here. I WANT UPS. Itself is looked down upon almost like in the same way satanism was where it's just like eight theism who believes not any of that of course people who are religious. Take it as you believe in opposite of what I believe in. Which isn't that but you know they're mad and they think they're right so but still even though. It's like that. In America in a historic ruling Supreme Court sides with her and there was a couple of other lawsuits. Same Time and ban school prayer in nineteen sixty three. How fucking literally literally radical. She's a fucking radical. She's a true radical not really thinking of her junior high age sun though and how yeah it would be to have a mom. That's doing stuff like that. And she's doing it for him but in the photos from back then he just looked so unhappy and yes herbal and so. She's not the only plaintiff in the ruling but she is the loudest voice and becomes like the face of it and kind of a celebrity of it. And so Matt Allen. Who's played by? Melissa Leo do you know who yes? She like age her and she becomes the older version of her. It looks exactly like her. It's just this white hair like like grandma librarian in Kiewit and everything but then you talk to her and you know those people that you talk to and you're you say something normal them and they immediately you don't know who they are. They're checking you out of the library and they're mad at you immediately and you're just like why don't I didn't? I raised by nuns. None of those. Those are my people. It's also that thing. It's it's just ironic because that thing of like you know the whole thing of like you don't prayer in school you don't want people shoving stuff down you know your kids throat right dictating anything but a Lotta Times those personalities and the people like that are the people who shove stuff down other people's throats exactly so she is loud and Brash. Right back at the people who were loud and Brash at her about religion. And she's combative she's outspoken. She's fucking angry. She drinks beer. She curses like a sailor. Love it all she says. I'm a militant feminist. She fights for abortion rights. She's just like out there in loud about it. There's a reporter named Valerie Williams who said quote. I have never encountered a more bitter more distasteful person than Madeline. Marie O'hare shows extremely foul mouth to the point that we were doing an interview about something that she wanted us to do. A story on. We had to stop the interview in the middle because she was cursing so much. Which in my whole fucking county heart appreciate. I said the word count on at the grand on the grand old opry stage. I appreciate that I mean. And also you know to to claim that you're a militant feminist in the late sixties early seventy s was. It was insane. I mean like that's you know. This lonely been cool in the last five years. Yeah totally it very edgy. I mean all of it. It's also in my opinion a lot of times. This boils down to being very intelligent woman in modern society. He acts. It's difficult thing to be the kind of person that's smart enough to be a cart. Did you say she was a car? Tougher in the the as army. Yes so this is a very talkative woman. Talk pornographer ooh. She's doing code Brady. Yeah and shut US Alaska. She's a smart cookie you know. He's a smart cookie. That's tired of of dumb people ruining shit. Her being smart as she knows that the loudest voice gets heard because the fuck in loudest voice in the Evangelical Christians. Whatever is fucking yelling at the pulpit to and they're getting a ton of what's what's his face. Jerry Follow Jerry. Falwell right so yes she got it. You got to fight fire with fire. But it's the whole thing of women aren't supposed to be that way and aren't supposed to do stuff like that when they're not supposed to swear drink beer right and you're you're on the other side so they're pests and so she appears on the debut episode Phil Donahue. He was like that's our first episode. We need her. He's a genius. Yes also there's no way his wife Marlo. Thomas didn't have something to do with that. His she was also a militant feminist night but she was that girl so she was like the prettiest version she has like a Gloria. Steinem TYPE. Like let me make this palatable for you fucking. Patriarchy assholes so. She appears on the field on his show to publicly discussed her atheist views. The audience turns against her as does the public. Yep and in nineteen sixty four article in life magazine. She's dubbed the most hated woman in America. Excuse me leave that. Which she's proud of she's like hell and proud of that fucking title so mad on goes on the new circuit and she criticizes and ridicules religion and religious people. I mean she's fucking laughing in their faces and she laughed at the entire concept of God. She riles them up. And of course then gets more press for it and because of that. She's harass she receives tons of death threats against her and her family. She says like their cat got killed and her. She got mail with feces in it. Now in her home was stoned like you know she becomes literally the most hated woman in America. So in the late sixties madeline takes all her infamy and attention and bounds. The American Atheists Organization. The aim of the organization is to quote defend. The civil rights of nonbelievers worked for the separation of Church and state and address issues of First Amendment public policy so after setting up the headquarters in Austin where she lives. Now she marries again and becomes. That's why she's Madeline. Marie O'hare her husband's are footnotes in this in her story which I appreciate but she found a man. Yes and everything. Just kidding that there's someone for everyone not ellen becomes famous. She's an atheist. Radio Program Television show called American Atheist Forum. And it's on more than one hundred and forty cable channels so she's fucking famous and so for the next few decades. Madeline devotes her life to campaign against the Church's Power. She continues to file suits challenging religious displays and rituals including so one of the things she does is trying to get in God. We trust removed from dollar bills. Which is like yeah. It's government I mean. She tries to get the phrase under God out of the Pledge of allegiance she fights tax exempt status for the Catholic and Mormon Churches. That was right. Yeah and then. There's some shit about the moon landing. And how he one of the moon one of the astronauts is GonNa take communion on the moon and and missionaries wanted to go to the moon in case there were other light for life forms that can convert them. It's just now. They're bugging with her. Yes it's absurd and there's a clip of her just laughing about it. It's it's absurd. So and she's placed on Jagger Hoover's list dangerous citizens however and maybe because of this atheists all around the world start to fucking send her and her organization money to fight against to fight her bites so at the peak of the American atheists height of their power. It's estimated that Natolin controls up to fifteen million in donated assets. Oh my God and one of those fans is none other than Larry Flint. Who is the owner of Hustler? Yea tries to sign over his three hundred million dollar empire to her in case he dies but his brothers like this is happening but he's like a fan and she writes for Hustler and playboy and you know throughout the years throughout the seventy s and into what becomes a super religious. Reagan era of the eighties. She goes to court many times. She battles religious symbolism and the official domain. She fights for legal legalization of abortion but in the eighties. More and more people are going to church and becoming right wing. You know the Satanic Panic didn't happen in a bubble. It's because everyone the same kind of fucking gasoline that lit this fire. Well in its that cultural pendulum always swings right like this. You know the re- The whatever they call social revolution or whatever it's correctly called of the late sixties into the seventies. Then there was that Malays and that member like you know what I mentioned this story but those were like so many of those hippies and people and in college students who thought they finally had a voice and we're finally going to change the world it didn't work and maybe a hat and my dad talked about to they become disillusioned and stop giving a shit. And they're like I might as well become a fucking capitalist yet. And that's what happened in the late seventies and eighties. Yeah a lot of those people in the woodstock documentaries amazing because there's a guy that like was at Woodstock doing the whole thing and I think this is how they got the man final episode in the in the Woodstock documentary. He talks about this insane weekend that he has and then he went back to his job. His advertising job and wrote PLOP PLOP FIZZ Fizz. Oh what a relief. It Madman fine on it right. And and he was like basically one of the biggest ad people after that but he saw he had the whole realization at Woodstock of this great idea and then it was like yeah it's it's the pendulum swings and it's like. We tried that. It's scary. It didn't I didn't get what I needed out of it now. Now now we go this way and Ronald Reagan says you know. Let's all pray and trickle down economics right. Yeah so the American Atheist Organization. They still have a membership in the figures but by nineteen ninety dwindling. All chapters around the country are gone and the organization is kind of on the like the low end of the pendulum and they have tax problems. It seems like maybe they're laundering some money that's That's always yeah and legal fights and you know that they're doing drain the organization because they have to hire lawyers to fight these fights and Madeline starts considering leaving for New Zealand. She's like fuck this shit. I can't she can't fuck and leave the house. She's been like harassed in you know attacked so in August. Twenty seventh nineteen ninety-five when a typewritten note is attached to the locked office stores at the at the headquarters of the American atheists. In Austin saying that Madeleine who seventy-six her son her younger son Garth? Who's forty and Madeleine's granddaughter? Who's thirty WHO'S ACTUALLY BILL? Murray's daughter but she is you know they're all like a really close little family the three of them. She says they've been called out of town on an emergency. Don't know how long will be gone. Don't worry about it. And so it seemed. It didn't seem like totally out of the ordinary that they had like skipped town but members of the atheist organization. They searched the family home. There's no evidence of violence or a struggle but it does seem like they left in a hurry because the thing of half eaten food on the table like they were in the middle of a meal kind of a story she throws down her meatloaf and goes we got to go to New Zealand right now. All right come on. Do you know how it is. Madeleine's diabetes medication are still there. They're passports are still there and they left their dogs behind. Like UNTAKEN CARE. Which isn't like them at all atheists take care of their dogs. Everyone knows that it's all they have. That's right dog is their co-pilot gone bumper sticker comedy. Yeah but a few days later. So they're like this is weird. We don't know what's going on. They tried to get in touch with all of them but finally guards. The Sun does answer his cell phone when they call and he's like don't worry about it. Everything's fine but he's really vague about their whereabouts and Garth and the granddaughter Robin Answer the Cell Phone occasionally. The next couple of weeks give strange answers and the last time anyone talks to them on September Twenty Eighth Robin granddaughter is described as being distraught and after that no one ever hears from them again so of course eventually they fucking skipped town and living in New Zealand. Living it up all the money they laundered and some people are like well. Maybe the fucking people they angered. Finally you know killed them. It's like who the fuck knows and it takes a year for Madeleine's estranged son Bill Murray has now he fucking cut ties with the family to finally report her missing the Austin police but since there's no evidence of foul play the police don't follow up on the report and also remember this Texas which probably one of those religious places ever and so they don't give a shit about this woman as way in the nineties. Yeah so a year after the Murray O'hare disappearance a reporter from San Antonio Express News John McCormack. Now this guys are fucking hero of the story. Don't you love it when the journalists are the fucking people who solve the problems? John McCormack Lot John McCormack is assigned to write an anniversary story on the disappearance of the three of them and he just assumes that they fled the country and didn't want to be found so he starts to dig into the story he speaks with ex members of the atheist organization and one of those members is a man named David waters his played by Josh Lucas. Oh yeah okay. Is He a bad guy? Just Lucas always turns out to douchebag. Yes okay okay Thing what does he even in O- at tons of stuff well he was in like Ford versus Ferrari as the Jewish bag from Ford. He always guy where your leg or he's like the boyfriend that I think is great. And then he's like not he's being typecast and pigeonholed when he is he is because he's good rain because he's good at it so the Sky David waters insists feverishly that the family left town. He's like I think that they fucking stole a bunch of money and here I have like letters and shit proven and gives it to any reporter. That listen to him. He's on several new shows. He's on America's most wanted talking about the disappearance talks to any fucking reporter about it so let's leave him over there after publishing historic John. Mccormick gets so. He puts the story in the paper. Being I don't really know what happened to them. This is odd. He can't figure anything out PUTS THE STORY UP THEN. He gets a call from a private investigator who specializes in finding missing persons. Which sounds like the best fucking job ever? Yeah name's Tim. Young and he had read the article was like I don't. I don't care what happened to I need to be part of this like this fascinating. So the two of them. Mccormack and fucking young for about nineteen months. They chase leads. They examined phone records and credit card bills and they're able to place madeline and her son and granddaughter in the San Antonio area during the month after they disappeared and yeah so in San Antonio the three of them had maxed out credit cards with cash advances and they find that six hundred thousand dollars had been withdrawn from the organizations account by Garth so after September twenty eighth. There's no more activity on the cell phones or any other credit cards or accounts which just supports the authorities theory that the family was in the country. Right there like getting cash and later day but it's just not adding up for McCormick in young. They just like aren't they're not? It's not coming together yet. So McCormack's leads dry up until mid nineteen ninety eight when he gets a call from a man who had read his article as well and the students is like okay so my brother is a small time con man. His name's Danny Fry. He had gone missing around the same time that the Murray O'hare's disappeared the three of them disappeared and he all. He knew that his brother was last known to be in San Antonio and September of one thousand nine hundred five which was the time period. Doing some kind of job with a dude who kept getting mentioned in these new. Sorry who kept cutting you mentioned in these news articles named David Waters Aka. And he was like my brother who went to see him had actually served prison time with him. So then McCormick's like ha so remember David waters who just talked about who worked for Madeline. What's his deal? Let's find out let's dig. Let's dig so he had been hired by Madeleine in one thousand nine hundred three as a typesetter for the atheists organization. I don't know if she knew that he had been in prison when she hired him but she was very vocal about giving people serving their time and giving them second chances. She actually didn't give a shit which is what wasn't she vocal about. Sorry I'm GonNa keep this myself. It's it's about how darkly I liked. Toast my toes. I'm going to talk about that. I'm just going to be quiet. I like Burt so David waters. He also was charming hardworking. Smart Dude so he was good at his job and eventually got promoted to office manager. Intel the family discovers that he had stolen fifty four thousand dollars from the Atheists Organization Fund. Well not I almost put this paper to the side. Don't do that tape it to the wall behind you. So the family they they press charges on David waters. He's only given probation and ordered to pay back the money. So Madeleine is fucking furious. That he didn't get like you know you only got a slap on the wrist so in the organization's July nine hundred ninety five newsletter. She exposes David Waters Criminal Background and says everything that he had been imprisoned for and had ever done which is that. He was in there for seventeen years old. He had been a man to death with a fence post. Oh my God. That's why he was in prison and when he was released. He brutally assaulted his mother and urinated in her face afterwards. Oh my God. So he was a monster and she put it in the fucking newsletter. Okay sorry we've been doing this podcast for four years. I don't think we've ever heard that a detail like that. I mean we've heard leaf and I wasn't sure if I was going to put it in there but I wanted just stress. No it gives a very clear picture of its his mother his mother so this guy is not on the fucking level and he worked in the new would. It must have been. You know with all the money you've got have fifteen million dollars. It must have been thousands and hundreds of thousands of fucking people who got this newsletter in their mailbox every week. It was over by the horoscopes but still is in their horoscope. You're fine nice. Don't be a dead or you're the same as everybody else. We all have many where we can. We all contain multitudes. Yeah there's no heaven be nice now the and he and he had stolen fifty four thousand dollars from them. So he's like you know he's a bad guy and shortly after that was printed in July nineteen ninety. Five and remember. They went missing in August. Nineteen ninety-five September is when the last people last heard from them right. The line about him paying in his own. Mother's face was in the newsletter. I think it was and I tried to find the nuclear. I couldn't find it but I think that was specifically in the newsletter timeline. It's making me nervous thirty years ago. Yeah Yeah Right. It's fucking madeline for you. It's called. I don't give a fuck but the Madeline Marie O'hare story. Yeah it's called. Come at me. Bro. Yeah the Madeline Marie O'hare story come at me brokers. I put it in the newsletter. It's too late it's in the newsletter delay so McCormick and young remember John McCormack. Our newspaper writer and I'm a picture him really beautiful. Let's he looks like Paul Holes in my mind off private detective. They're like Oh shit and they're like let's do some fucking digging like now. We know we knew something was going on. So they find the phone records for this guy's brother fry and David waters and they are able to tie them together on the same time and you know that they are all in San Antonio around that time and there's also another third fucking accomplished. His name is Gary Car and he was also an ex helmet of David waters. And he was a serial rapist and kidnapper. Jeez so what's the Fermi of them at the same time and one of them had worked for Madeline and they all had copies of that newsletter in the back pocket their lease gene. They had put it in a baseball Bat Hayes on their wall for some time in the future when may might need it so they had all been in San Antonio during the time in question and so- McCormack and young are like. Let's bring this to the Austin PD right like we have all like like those little red threads with the push buttons that go all the way over to the in the Kerry put up at homeland. Yeah the homeland map or the detective style. You know it's like classic every they all added up and they're like what's up Austin PD here. You Go and Austin PD was like we don't give a fuck us. There's nobody so there's nothing we can do about. It goes by so you're like she was not hot and she swore so suck her right. So whatever may move on and finally by sheer fucking godly. Maybe coincidence The Lord working okay. So by sheer coincidence. Mccormack sees story in a Dallas newspaper about how three years earlier in one thousand nine hundred five a headless handling corpse had been found nearby and the Trinity River and he contacts The Dallas police with information. And he's like I think I know who this is and with DNA testing and early nineteen ninety. Nine it's confirmed that the corpse is Danny. Fry brother that the guy had called about his brother who was wanted. David waters accomplices. Whoa yeah not a good sign for everybody else involved. No so McCormack writes an article about the whole thing finally gets the attention of not just the police but the FBI and then they find out that the IRS special in our an irs special agent Edmund Martin had been looking into this case since nineteen ninety-seven because he was like this is fucking money laundering. If nothing else yeah because they had already evade taxes and shit and they showed a bunch of money to the IRS. So He'd been looking into it so you've now you get fold in. So there's the intrepid beautiful reporter. There's the intrepid beautiful detective private investor. Yeah private investigator Paul. Style and now. There's a nerd from the IRS. Coming to fill out that ragtag team so finally on March twenty four. Th One thousand nine hundred ninety seven weeks. After McCormack's story is published the agents from the irs the FBI and the Dallas County Sheriff's office raid the apartments of the of the two surviving accomplices car and waters and David Waters Rundown Shitty ass apartment in. They're like. Why did you ever Shitty apartment? If he's still six hundred thousand dollars from these people they find one hundred nineteen rounds of ammunition and it's a parole violation because he's on parole for stealing money from before great. That's good news. That's good no so he David Writers is arrested. Gary cars is also arrested for similar parole. Violations and waters is sentenced to eight years on the weapons charge but sixty years for violating the terms of his parole. You Zero yes. Sixty six zero. Wow and he was like an stiff by then so you would have hoped that. He got sixty years for murdering a person with a fence post. But no it's for violating different time. Yeah Okay and then I wrote okay. But what does this have to do with murder Georgia? Those like you're off track at this point. There's lots of murder so far that's true. There's a headless corpse in a river. Right that's murder. Most people want the worst murder. So here's what happens knowing that. He's going to prison for the rest of his life on his parole violations. And not he doesn't WANNA BE AN TEXAS STATE. Prison anymore he wants. Sweet Sweet fucking federal cushy. Prison your all the tennis lessons exactly easily in two thousand and one. He's like all right. I'll confess to everything if you put me in the federal prison. And he does it and he fucking begins telling the story of the kidnapping and murder of Madeleine her son. Garth and her granddaughter Robin. So in August. Twenty seven nine hundred ninety five he says the three convicts waters car and Fry all armed with handguns. They use a still livery man rouge surprise. Madeline Garth and Robin at the atheists headquarters kidnapped them take no motel in San Antonio demand the contents of their bank account which is the six hundred thousand dollars which is in New Zealand. So maybe that mom money laundering true but because we'll let you go unharmed once we have the money but because it's in New Zealand it turns out that it's GonNa take a long time to get to the US thirty days in this. Like it's an second apartment motel. What are those long term? Living apartments called. Yeah I think it's long term extended extended stay. It's an extended stay place. They're all they end up staying there for thirty days together. They play cards they watch. Tv They get fucking takeout and they kind of like become friends and begin to trust each other so the money is on. Its Way it's get stuck in a bank in New Jersey and the Sun Garza and David waters actually get on a plane and fly there together so garth can get it out and he trusts that he's not going to get killed so much that he doesn't alert anyone to what's going on. Whoa yeah like. He believes on that. They're not going to kill him and his family his mom and niece so not even I know wow and you know what? Maybe they weren't going to because according to the story and who knows if it's true when they get back from New Jersey David. Waters goes in and learns. That car was a rapist. Remember Yeah had raped and murdered young robin the grant. Now that's according to this story and so- Garza and Madeleine don't know about that and they finally get the six hundred thousand dollars. They traded off for gold coins. The local jewelry store and once they have the money the three convicts attack. Garth in his sleep. They put a leather belt around his neck. And he's fucking six four and over two hundred pounds so he puts up this huge fight against these three men but eventually they put a bag over his head and he suffocates to death a lawful. It's so it's these I mean it's just so fucking sad and heartbreaking and and greedy and mean and terrible and Donald Dumb and dumber and gets caught. Yeah Madeleine's killed in the same fucking way. God it's really awful. The three of them take the bodies to back to Austin and storage unit. They dismember the bodies with both saw. They put them each into fifty five gallon barrels and then they drive to remote area and bury the barrels and some point maybe when they were bearing the family. David water shoots fry in the back of the head killing him. Maybe he was a double crosser or something. Yeah and remember the headless body. That's found it's his and they throw his hat hadn't hands into the pit with the rest of them God so afterwards waters and cargo on his fuck fucking spending spree. They spend nearly eighty thousand dollars of that. Six hundred thousand dollars But the rest of it. The five hundred almost five hundred thousand dollars. They put in a suitcase in in a different storage unit. Okay and now fucking. Ironically in this does make me believe in a higher power three local teenage hoodlums on how. God works yet. Your teenage looms works in mysterious teenage hoodlums. They fucking start breaking in to storage they steal the fucking suitcase has all the money that the fucking three people were killed for. They sell it. They go on a crazy spending spree. Eventually they get caught as well but you know can you imagine like David waters walking up to his fucking storage unit and that shit got stolen. It was it's like Fargo. It's just this fucking it is such hotel. Fargo and it also. Is that thing of like all the work I mean it's very similar to Fargo to put in to stay with that family four month. Yes you have to live with the people. You're eventually going to murder late. What how could you do it? It's horrible it's just shows how there's just so many people who don't have a conscience that like yeah. We'll do such things to people that they get to know and like you know play cards with and Shit it's just for money does turn Fargo for just a little of money. That's right after his confession David Water. It's like the police to the remote ranch and Camp Wood Texas. They find the shallow grave with three dismembered skeletons in the hands and skull with a bullet hole in them. Matt Owners identified by the serial number on artificial hip and later the others are all identified through DNA. Gary cars given two life sentences without the possibility of parole for all of the crimes. But they don't ever try them for the murder. No one ever gets tried for murder and kidnapping. David Waters Dies of lung cancer on January. Twenty seventh two thousand three in Federal Prison. And Yeah no one's ever tried for the murders but in an ironic twist when they do go to court for these life sentences the swearing on a Bible. The in God part is taken out partly because of Madeleine's fight to get God out of wow. Isn't that amazing yes? Finally Marie O'Hara's are re buried in an unmarked grave to protect them from vandals by their son Bill. Murray William Murray he even though he's a strange and clearly doesn't like his mom. He respects her wishes and allows no prayers or religious services at their funeral. Despite the fact that he is now an evangelical Christian of course he is right. Because you can't make your children do what you want them to do. No no in fact. He founded the religious freedom coalition which is the largest and most powerful Christian right lobbying group in the nation look like yeah yeah. It's just how it works. Here's look for Madeline Marie O'hare she says I told my kids. I just want three words on my tombstone if I have one woman atheist anarchist. That's me and that is the mysterious disappearance and murder of madeline. Marie O'hare unbelievable unbelievable. Banana says that it's really I mean it's that's amazing that you said that because it really is very parallel to fargo totally just a lot less funny but still just that insane. I mean look. I love a loud obnoxious woman. Clearly I am one clearly. I love to swear a clearly. I don't give a fuck but there is that thing that I think is that. I think I've learned more recently in my older age. Which is that. That is a much more peaceful life when you're not so obsessed with these ideas in your head of how you need it to be because it isn't true even if it's like yeah. I honestly personally believe that there needs to be a separation of church and state because when you don't separate church from the government than churches used to sway people and to hold power over people where it should it doesn't belong it should not be allowed and it's also not considering everybody because everyone only thinks churches in Catholic or Christian Church which doesn't represent America. This is a country filled with all kinds of religions and backgrounds and eighth IUS and and you have to represent this country when you're talking about the the government the official representative of the country right. But if you take your if you get so attached to your crusade that you start going in basically the same direction that you're accusing them of being the oppressors than you. The oppressed become the oppressors. It's a power. That corrupts absolutely. It's the same thing every time. Yeah totally I didn't realize I had such a speech. E I mean I love to make a speech by Levitt and I love the I love the concept of her. Yes that I wish. She had aimed more for the middle. Because we can't you can't just mimic the people you hate. You can't be exactly the same as them and then go. They're the ones that are wrong. We'll know when you're doing your side cheers for you. And the other side yells their their version of that right back at you and there for them and no no one ever learns anything. No one ever comes to an understanding. No one says I get what you're saying but I don't agree with it. It's I need to destroy you. And yes and what? You can't come to donate twenty America. You can't move forward if that's what's happening right and I mean maybe not to be overly philosophical now but maybe that's a huge benefit of such an insane thing like this pandemic and something as awful as what this country is going right now in. The death of people are saying that it's waking them up to this idea that this big concept of whatever side. Bhairon is merely a concept right and what they need to do. Is WHOEVER LIVES NEXT DOOR TO THEM? No matter where that person lands in the political spectrum religious spectrum of the whatever. Make sure that person's okay is it's your neighbor and you should give a shit about the people around you and you shouldn't be picking teams. You should be trying to help like because no sorry. No I'm just saying oh hearted they they suck in benefit. When we're fighting the fucking big government the fucking people who make the laws. The overlord see overlords benefit when were fighting against each other. This angrily on this loudly because then we're not paying attention to what they're doing to us. Which fucking making the poor poor and fucking taking money from all kinds of evil fucking people. So they can benefit meawhile. 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Promo code murder for one hundred and fifty dollars off any mattress order of fifteen hundred dollars or more terms. Apply got by great job. That was really good. Thank you go was exciting and as you were introducing it and saying you know those ones where you get really excited. I was like. Yeah because that's mine this week really speaking of which but this is kind of an update so doesn't really belong in Corrections CORNER. And it's a huge bummer. So and thank you to Hannah. Oh twitter at sincerely Hannah for pointing this out. It's so rough. But she basically sent a me l of a tweet saying You didn't mention this part of the story. That happened two thousand three and when I opened the article that she sent. I was flabbergasted I mean I was like my jaw dropped to basically. She sent me an article that one of the policemen who was right there like the original team of rescuers for baby. Jessica Sergeant Andy Glass Cock in two thousand three drugged and raped a fifty one year old woman and they found child porn in his possession. So he's a now in federal prison himself For twenty years. He's he serving a concurrent sentence. It's a complete disaster story and I basically I jay and I both because Jay you know does like on research me. And he's like I'm so sorry I didn't see anything like this and I was like dude. I read every art. I love this story. I read every single article. I saw nothing about this and we were talking about. Probably because it's he was used to be a hero. Yeah hop it's and it's that kind of thing where no one wants to hear these stories after the fact totally. So thank you Hannah for sending that. And it's it's a true bummer. But I mean it is a part of the story that should be told. Yeah Butts now we go onto. This is another survival story and I'm very excited that J. J. found it and suggested that because I was like. Oh that's one of my favorite ones. Well time this is the survival story of Julianne Kopke. All right so Searching Honore banks. It's an you wouldn't. I don't think you'd recognize it from the name your will from this actual story so we used you know. Bbc Dot Com all. That's interesting DOT COM vice wikipedia history dot com. But I watched there's a Verner Herzog made for TV movie documentary about this woman's experience and it's called the wings of hope. And I watched it today. It's amazing you can watch it on Youtube. It's like an hour long. And it literally has an adult Julianne Kopke walking through how she got through this experience and lived through it. And it's unbelievable. And the reason Werner Herzog made this documentary is because so she. She basically survived a plane in the Amazon. Oh and he was supposed to be on the plane. No I did not know that. I didn't I didn't know any part of this. So so he was basically down there he was. I think I get into it actually later on. But it's Werner Herzog it's so nuts and so it's amazing because this documentary basically. You know I'll give. I'll give you the information that I learned in the documentary and also in other articles but you can completely go watch it for yourself and watch her tell you firsthand. Zhang what happened? Okay so So it's Christmas Eve. Nineteen seventy one and seventeen year old. Jillian copy and her mother. Maria are waiting to board a Lanza flight. Which is an airline that doesn't exist anymore for very good reason a Lanza Lanza flight five. Oh eight from Lima Peru to Pu. Culpa Perot Okay so Julianne has just passed her final exams for high school graduated from High School The night before at. Forgive me for this pronunciation. Dutch shoe Lima Alexander von Humboldt. That's the name of the high school And it's in Lima. So both of Julian's parents from other Maria and her father Huntsville Helm Ar- German biologist and they live and work at their ecological research station in Pool. Culpa how and sellable is their life rate Literally she she got to grow up like they lived in Lima because both of the parents I worked for a museum there but then they got to live their dream and basically go. We're going to go out into the jungle. The animals and all the living creatures that are out there incredible so basically. And here's the story. So her father Hans Wilhelm. He emigrated to Peru after World War. Two he didn't even have a passport. He was broke had no money. So He's a young biologist and all he wanted to do with study like jungle life and animals in the jungle. So he goes away on a freighter. He hides in a cargo area with it's filled with salt and he basically gets to south. America gets off the ship and then walks across the continent and gets himself to Peru wish. Yeah essentially so. And so her mother. Maria is also a biologist. She had been in Lima. She was there on business but then also her daughter was graduating from high school and She actually wanted to fly back like on the twentieth twenty-first but then Julian wanted to graduate with her with her classmates and she wanted to go to the prom which was right after so they ended up staying for all that and then Getting to the airport on Christmas Eve. One thousand nine hundred seventy one to fly out. The plane is seven hours late and by the time Julian Maria Board. Everyone like is angry. They're anxious to get home for Christmas. Yeah there's all these people waiting and there were supposed to be two flights. There's five eight and then there was the flight that was supposed to leave afterwards so there is a bunch of people trying to get on five away. Yeah because they didn't want to have to because they were so late at this point didn't want to get home Christmas Day but an end so Verners tells a story in wings of hope or he says he tried to bribe the counterparts person. He gave them twenty dollars thinking they would get him on five being other flight. He's trying to get on five away tries to get on five away and he doesn't get on. Yeah and so all when the people like when everyone gets to board all the people that are on the flight like cheer and they're like yeah. Yeah we did it and like basically like we made it onto this flight boy. Even though weather conditions are turning bad the cruise under so much pressure to stick to this and get people home for the holidays that they decide to to continue on a not. Cancel the flight. So Yeah Verna Herzog was there. He was supposed to be. He's filming a movie called the wrath of God that's about Spanish conquistadors trying to find El Dorado the lost city of gold in the jungle and they show a clip in in when he's hope and it that jungle is so dense crazy like it looked like a complete nightmare so while all this stuff's happening with Julianne and the story you can just picture. Verner Herzog is in the jungle like thirty miles away shooting his movie he so I just WanNa get on a plane. I just okay. So so they board the flight Jillian and Maria take their seats in the nineteen th row for what should only be about an hour long flight just to see like a little jumper to get to their hometown and in wings of hope they saved. Julianne says that her mom was sitting in the Middle. She was at the window and there was a very large man. That has the aisle seat who immediately falls asleep. So everything's smooth sailing for the first twenty five minutes of the flight and But Julianne can see they you know. They can see dark clouds outside. They've been like they've basically flown into a bunch of clouds and soon the plane is surrounded. And then the turbulence starts and it's pretty bad then. A thunderstorm breaks out and it gets worse and worse and luggage Starts to fall from overhead bins very scary Christmas gifts of Christmas cakes. Things things are just falling out. The mother and daughter begin to hold hands. They try to remain calm around them. They can hear fellow passengers panic. Some start crying Ten minutes later Julian sees a very bright light hit the engine outside the window and she realizes the plane's just been struck by lightning And in a calm voice Maria says this is the end. It's all over her. Mom says that to her her mom says it. I mean okay so immediately. The plane takes a nosedive cabin. Goes Black. Everyone starts screaming the luggage and all these packages that have fallen out now. Flying around the cabin and the sound of the failing engine is becoming this deafening roar. Yeah and and Julianne Talks about where that was kind of like all she could hear it like took over everything and then suddenly stops and she realizes she's outside of the plane all my green gully in in her seat in their row of seat. Kerr like our fall. Her seek got sucked out of the plane in mid air and she has just. The plane broke apart. Holy Fuck so she. In in wings of hope she says quote. It wasn't that I had left the plane but that the plane had left me home. So she is she still strapped to her seat and she falls two miles down to the jungle floor and all she can hear is. The sound of the wind as the canopy reign of the rainforest is spinning toward her and she loses consciousness. So now we're going to go a little history. Julian Caucus born in Lima Peru to German. Parents sue I told you a little bit about Marin Hans. Ville him on October Tenth Nineteen Fifty Four. She's their only child at the time ran. Hans Wilhelm both worked for the Museum of Natural History in Lima But in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight. When Julian's fourteen. They leave Lima for the Amazon rainforest. City of Copa in eastern Peru. It sits on the banks of a tributary of the Amazon River. And their you know a little bit into the jungle. They set up this research station. Basically Julian lives there in his home schooled. There and the plan was that she was just GonNa Finish High School. Like being home schooled at At their at her parents research station as she is home schooled there for a year. And a half. It's of course any any child that's interested in animals and stuff like this and she. She even has her own to can so long. Life is great fruit loops everywhere. But then in nineteen seventy the local school authorities find out that she's just out there being home schooled. They say sorry. She has to go to normal high school to graduate and because she wants to go on to college so she can studied zoology and become a biologist like her parents. She does go back to deutshe to Lima Alexander von Humboldt for her finals which she passes so she wants to graduate go to the PROM. Whatever her mom hangs hangs out and like. That's fine I'll change the tickets but the only available flight after jillions graduation prom is on Christmas Eve on the airline Lanza they in this documentary wings of hope talks so much shit about this airline at one. It's like do you remember tower air. Now do you ever have to fly tower air now as as as a very broke comic in the nineties it was rough? It was like it was kind of like a cargo plane. There was like I remember sitting in a in a middle seat in the middle section and it was like fifteen seats across. Oh yeah crazy. The everybody was passing things. Most people had their own food. Yeah I was so hung over that I just tried to sleep and the lady sitting next to me kept waking me up for every beverage and food offering whereas like I don't want Lee's I'm dying. She'll be like do you WANNA drink. Do you WANNA tips anyway. Basically at one point in this we're in a Herzog tells Julianne that he did research on flight five away and found out that the mechanics who worked on that plane had only ever worked on motorcycles. Before that Oh no. That's a very different machine. It's a different machine and also the pilots speaking of which the pilots were not licensed to fly commercial. Now that's not you run a business. It was bad news coming and going and so of course. Julian's Dad Advises his wife against flying land so they had recently had two crashes like in the previous months but Maria Wanted Julian Halley? High School experience. She's like it's worth it so she books flight anyway dear. So that's how they got there okay. So when Julian wakes up on the jungle floor. It's Christmas morning. It's early morning. She is underneath the row seats that she was sitting in her. Mother is nowhere to be seen. The large man on the icy. No she's alone. There's some wreckage around her. But because the plane broke apart in the air. She's separated from the bulk of the crash site so she just kind of calls out to her mother no one answers now. She can barely see. Yeah so she wears glasses. Her glasses are gone. She's really nearsighted. Kerr left eye is swollen shut and her right eye is swollen so she can only open at like a sliver. Oh my God also and now. We're we're going to go through a list of injuries so if you're squeamish you're going to want to now listen to the podcast. Dr Death just kidding so squeamish alert her collar bone is broken and sticking out the right side of her clavicle area. I think is is a collarbone. She can't feel it though. Okay you can't. She can't feel that she just looks down and sees it can't feel it. She also has a ruptured ligament in her knee. Can't feel that she's got she's in. The documentary has said. She looked down and there was a cut on her calf. That was so deep. It wasn't bleeding home that it reminded her of a canyon because of how of how it was kind of broken torn up at the top class. How she also has a really bad cut on the upper back part of her right arm but she is alive. Miraculously so one of the theories of how it would be possible for her to survive. Falling two miles out of the skies strapped to a row of seats is because of the severity of the thunderstorm. They were really strong UPDRAFTS. You know. It's like about warm air and cold air. Whatever so they're really strong updrafts that were pushing against her fall has slowed down slowing down like the force of gravity or whatever the gravitational pull maybe if is midst It was the hand of the Lore at kind of scooped era but also she landed in a part of the forest the jungle forest where the trees were really close together. An intertwined with these really thick vine. Yeah like all the way through so they almost created like a little bit of a net as she fell so she basically I mean she was. It's it's softened quote unquote her landing as they say it's like lost meets. Alice in Wonderland now entirely so she locks out insanely like it's how could you not think I'm a miracle and my life is destiny after you survive something like this. She's under like the seats. Are folded over. The back of the seat is like almost created like a little tent gun. She's under it again. Can't can't really see. She has a really bad concussion so when she tries to even begin to stand up she blacks out So she spends actually the first day just trying to get up and like and like she's for while she crawls around on all fours. She's trying to find her mother and It's you know everything is a huge really difficult for her. Also she is wearing a sleeveless mini-dress. Now it's nineteen seventy yeah. She's wearing a sleeveless mini dress. She was wearing sandals. She only has one on. She lost one of her sandals so she has and then she doesn't glasses so she's having to stick her one still shooed foot out ahead of her when she finally does is able to stand and walk. She has to stick her foot out to make sure she isn't trip like over Iraq or anything like that as she moves along so her. I inner mind the first thing. She needs to find her mom. If she's convinced if she's alive her mom must be to her and her mom were super super close and she kind of in the documentary. She said she just couldn't imagine being without her so she called for her a bunch and tried to find her. She's finding little bits of wreckage here in there. As she's moving around the jungle she actually ends up finding a bag of candy and takes her and it's her only food for a long time she also. There was at one of those Christmas Christmas cakes. That fell out was also there too but then when she by she realized that had just been sitting in mud so it'd like absorbed a bunch of dirt and mud so then she threw it away and of course later on deeply regretted have done that so basically she's You know wanders for a while and then comes upon another row of seats. There are three bodies still strapped into this row seats. But this row seats didn't default was not broken in any way and it was driven three feet into the ground. Holy Shit from the from the impact of the fall So she with her concussion and her kind of weird thinking and trying to find her mom she decides. This is the first time she's ever seen a dead body. Obviously her you know this is insanely traumatic. But she gets US idea in her head of maybe this is one of these people is her mom she can so she ends up getting a stick and taking a shoe off of one of defeat and she sees that the there's nail Polish on the toenails and her mom never put nail Polish on our toes of. She knew it wasn't her mom and that's when she realized she was totally alone in the jungle that her mom was gone and that she had to get herself as she had to start thinking clearly get herself out of there and she basically is like. I. I know now I have to press on alone. Basically she kind of wanders around for about four days you know trying to find a direction and the coolest thing was that the school authorities were very wrong about the benefit of her home schooling. She had all this Survival skills just from just from having to live in the jungle naturally so she's not scared of like when I first read the story which was long ago and with the Terry Joe Story of of Terry Joe who Was on the yacht and then guess went up out to see as a little child. Yes I read A. What's it called? Compilation books aren't called -CCOMPLISH as F- compilation sounds short stories. It's a true stories of survival. Basically this this story. Thank you seed in Scott. Thank God one of us went to college. Stephen you want to be in our book. Okay so this. This story was in that book with Terry. Joe's story too and I remember just going I if I didn't have one shoe and I was in the jungle with bugs and snakes and and I would. I would never stop screaming. I would just lose my mind. Yeah but she she. That's what she loved and she knew what was poisonous and she knew what wasn't she knew how to survive so she none of that scared her and also she says whether it was the trauma of the experience or that it was like she said she just had this kind. She'd never felt fear. She also never felt hungry. She just had this kind of like she was cut off and she was like I. Just gotTa get to civilisation. So so basically she knew that if you get lost in the jungle what you have to do is listen for water because if you can find a source of water you can follow the water. Wherever whatever direction the water is running it runs to other water than apparently that's a waterworks. What so she's as. She Wanders Wanders. She finally realizes Monday that she's been listening to a sound that she didn't put together in her head. That was the sound of running water and when she realized that she was like. Oh my God. She followed it. She finds a natural spring with a little rivulets of water running out of it and she just walks along the review it and eventually that reveal it gets her to this little creek and you can literally watch her do it. Werner Herzog went to the middle of the jungle found. The known wreckage. Found all these sites. And you watch her re walk her way Yongle. The plane wreckage is still. They're still there thirty years later. Because how are they gonna get it out and what for right like they probably always and then it's all grown over and they bring her back to it. She agrees to go back and do it like do it for the to show what she did you watch her walk through. You know like when you're I mean the first you know creek quote unquote is probably a foot wide. It's not you know. But then you see it just gets bigger and bigger and deeper and and go going downhill the whole thing and then that she basically gets the little creek that joins her up to a bigger creek and she knows that once she gets to a larger body of water that actually is like moving and has a current if she follows that downstream that that will bring her to civilization that. That's where you never go upstream. Just every right all these things down your hand go downstream. Yeah so if she also knows so as she is doing this she knows that walking in the water is less dangerous than walking through dense forest. Oh yeah so and they. They talk a little bit about sheets. She talks about like people always talk about Piranhas. The Asha she says this she's she's standing in the middle of a river running river and she's like a lot of people would be scared and I was like watching it like my heart is racing. And she's like but like people always scared of promise. Piranhas are harmless in in water with a current. It still water that they like go crazy house. She like she knows she knows. All the very yeah. She was the perfect seventeen year old to be an to survive a car crash. I mean us in the yes she says more than snakes tarantulas even prone as the one thing to worry about in water like that are Manta rays. They have poisonous smell yet. Poisonous stingrays in the water there. Now Yeah so. She basically when she finally gets to water. That's like big enough for that. To concern finds a big old stick and she walks and then just poke around in front of her as she's walking with one shoe again God She was like get Outta my. She's making sure she's not going to stand on any. Yes exactly and just and pokes them all up pokes like ground in front of her so she wades downstream and as you know so this a couple of days gone by now and she can hear the search planes. Oh but she's still in enough overgrowth she can't she can't signal to them in any way and also the way. This plane went down because it broke up in the air. Yeah there's no main crush site way. Literally the jungle just swallowed the plane and all the different plane parts and even if there was she's walked away from it at this point so like they don't know where she is no no they in their assuming. Everyone's dead they can't say they can't see anything. It's just like this plane has disappeared. So they're kind of assuming a the It was one of the biggest search search and rescue efforts in airborne search and rescue efforts in history Peru But you know after they search and search and search for like. I think it was five days. They give up because they can't even find where the plane went down so they just have no idea so as she's waiting downstream she can hear them and then she hears them go away so she gets really mad because she thinks either they found everybody else and saved them just not her or just that they gave up on her. She doesn't know but she again reminds herself. You just have to keep pushing forward. You just have to keep going. So meanwhile everyone in Peru basically is waiting to hear any news of flight five away. The basically just disappeared In a storm including of course Hans Wilhelm who is facing the horrible reality is both is wife and daughter have died in this plane crash. Yeah meanwhile back in the rainforest. Jillian is alternating between waiting in the shallower waters and then swimming in deeper parts of of the water. And she's the days are really hot and humid. And then it'll start raining. It rained several times a day as she's trying to get out but the rain is cold so she said when it hit her it felt like needles and it happened a ton but the good part was then she had lots of drinking water so she theorizes that that's why she wasn't so hungry is because she just constantly kept kind of kept herself full by just constantly drinking water right at night. Of course the air turns cold. Mosquitoes and bugs swarm her and like you know. She tries to her her best to keep them away but they're everywhere and she at night to sleep she gets out of the Of The creek or the river and she crawls up on the riverbank gets her back to the bank and basically just tries to keep warm even though she's like anything can come get you any creature. Yup. Yeah and and there's creatures that are that have already gotten you right. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. That's right wait. Well get ready tell you know so just. She has a watch on her wrist. That was a gift from her grandmother. So for the first four days she is using it to track time. Amtrak days passing but on the fourth day it stops so after that she just has to track it in her head but she knows that's important to just to know how many days passed and it's rainy season so there's not a lot of wild fruit that she can pick an eat any tools. She can't hunter fish. She knows that there's lots of plants that are poisonous. She doesn't want to risk trying to eat something and making herself sick She she eats the candy until the candy's gone but again she never. She never felt hungry. She said but she knew she was getting weaker. Because she was just walking nonstop so on either the fifth or Sixth Day She's not sure because the watch was broken this stream that she's been up in now opens up to a bigger river and this is like now. She knows that she's getting closer. But at this point her wounds have started to Fester. And so it's it's harder for her to walk so on. There are some days where she just float down the river and she does see crocodiles and sometimes yeah and so she'll be floating down the river and look and they'll be crocodiles see her and get in and she said she was just apathetic. She was just like well whatever and just kept floating and they never attacked are they never bit her. Did anything is not crazy. She is like the stingrays are the only one I've on ones. I have to worry about and she just chanted happen. That's fucking yet really is so so. Here's the super disgusting trigger warning by day. Ten the a wound in her upper right arm. Oh dear yet still with maggots yes sir. It look if you WANNA go on vacation in the jungle you have to hear this. Shit Georgia never wanted to do well L. dudes. It's so horrible that they're they're big. She looks down and she sees it. She knows it's bad because she knows 'cause like it's kind of out of sight then when she looks back. Can you imagine you're just like wow what? Yeah that collarbone I think are the hardest parts from me so far. So RUFFEA I mean for her to I. It's really hard for me. Sitting the hardest is for you and we know that went through some stuff too. I guess so she. She's also smart enough to know that that's terrible because she could get lead poisoning and she could get her arm amputated if she does survive right so she knows she has to find help and she has to like she has to keep up the pace on the tenth day. She can barely stand tenth fucking day on the Tenth Day. Ten days the which is so. She's they've the search and rescue has been called off for almost a week from day so she can barely stand so she is and she's still trying to make her way down the river so she goes and she has to rest so she goes and looks. There's a riverbank she walks over to it. She sits down. She doesn't even know how long she was there and she realizes she looks in front of her and realizes she's looking at a boat. There's a front of her. She must've been delirious by then and she had a major concussion. Oh rate same major concussion the entire time and yes. She delirious from from starvation delirious from. Yeah Yeah Mac everything. The plane crash. You the whole fucking thing. Yeah so she kind of like comes to realizing there's a chance she's made it because she's looking at a boat and she said she had to make sure she wasn't hallucinating. So she had to go hutch it to make sure it was real because it was so unbelievable. It's really there. She looks on the boat. She looks around doesn't see any people. She's considered stealing the boat but she doesn't want to be a thief so instead she spots the path that's coming from the riverbank and through the jungle and so she says it takes her hours. Climb up this riverbank as you said. The riverbank was about nine feet high. Oh my gosh. She's so weak that it took her she just had to try and finally she crawled up this bank and she followed the path and it led her to a little hut with a palm leaf roof and she just gets inside and goes to sleep and so she says when she's in there she realizes you're starving to death. You have to eat something and these frog. Start coming around. But she recognizes that they're called They're called I think they're called poison Arrow frogs and their those frogs. They're poisonous and they're the ones that That the native people use to put their juices from belly onto the arrows tips. So that when they shoot. They like hallucinating. Go crazy in their poisonous. They die yes so she. She knows that they're that poisonous and she's still tries to eat one anyway because he's like she's on the verge. Yeah but they keep hopping away from her she was just they would come and hop near her and then she'd be like panel. Just eat this. And then they would hop away and she couldn't she couldn't catch any Dick's so so the morning of January fourth. This is eleven days since the crash. She wakes up to the sound of voices outside the hut and in documentary. She says it's it. It sounded like the voices of angels. So she comes out of the hut and she sees three men standing there. She said they're all taken aback. She describes the moment like this quote when they saw me. They were alarmed and stop talking. He was at the Maggots maggots. Just pouring. She said they thought I was kind of water. Goddess a figure from a local legend. Who is a hybrid of a water dolphin which I would imagine it's just adult then Land often land dolphins hip be endless. Cats Kim Lewis cats. You mean hairless cat. I did know it's late okay. The CATS HAVE HAIR NO SCAN. The organs are right under. Oh God guys stop it. I'm trying to talk about maggots. Okay let's say a dolphin. A local legend the hybrid of a Dolphin. I think he meant Aribert Ya and a blonde white skinned woman so this is actually a real and she's blonde. She's like a little German Descent girl ship but she of course lived in parole or life. She introduces herself to the men. In Spanish she finds out their local lumbermen and she says what happened so they bring they gather her up and they bring to the put her on the boat. They've they go Eleven hours in the boat to get her back to their village. Just any kind of yeah. They get her there they but they in the meantime. They put gasoline in her wounds to kill the maggots and to basically like get a little triage going exactly but with gasoline. And I'm sure she's like who cares. It's fine I I can't feel anything so when the locals in their village and when the men bring her to the village the local see her her eyes are so red and bloodshot that all the locals recoil in fear and they accused the men of bringing a forest demon their village come. She's like I haven't even enough. Yeah it's like sorry you really look like a demon. Here's advising They these men convince a local pilot to fly Julie on to the hospital in Pucallpa. So in this again in the Mataram just talking through this documentary. It's so good. She goes back and she meets want the other. Two men have since died. Because it's been like thirty years. She goes and gets to meet one of her rescuers. Say thank you to him. It's lovely and also it's the cutest thing Werner Herzog. Such a good filmmaker. Yes because when he first comes upon the Group of people where she's like you know coming to say hello. There's all these little kids around. Of course it's just like village life and the camera swings over to like these little kids and then like two of them. Just walk away immediately. And there's this little girl who's probably like eight and she's so cute and she just stands are kind of smiling and the carriages is honor and then she then she just starts giggling and can't stop giggling and it is so it's so cute on just beautiful moments like that. He's so good. A day after her rescue on January fifth nineteen seventy-two. Julian's father gets a call telling him. His daughter has been found alive and he goes to the hospital. They're finally reunited and Juliane says that neither of them were able to speak. They just held each other. Oh can you imagine? He thought they were gone. Yeah and everything she had been through. And it's like it's over and that collarbone still sticking out during the hug the next few days Huntsville him. Oh sorry so for the next few days Hans Wilhelm watches the news just in case his wife is found alive and listen to this when Julianne Recovers. She joins in the search effort by leading the emergency responders. Back to the crash site to look for her mom. What's yeah? She goes back in. But on January twelfth nineteen seventy two marinas body is found and there is evidence that suggests that she also may five the initial crash but she was too injured to move or speak and she died out there. Oh my God yeah. Ninety one people died in the crash of Lonzo flight. Five Oh eight including all six crew members and eighty five passengers. Giuliani was the eighty. Six passenger was the lone survivor And there's they start this documentary with this amazing kind of monument that they've built in in. I believe it's in Lima Peru for all the people who died in flight five await in some of the bodies are buried in this monument. Only go to see it and it shows a map of where crashed and it shows a map of her trail out of the jungle. That monument is called wings of hope. And that's why we're in a Herzog documentary that flight five away. It was Lonzo's last flight before the entire company was shut down eleven days after the incident. So I pretty much immediately. They're operating permit was revoked. Due to their quote intentional flight into hazardous weather conditions. Also met they all. These aren't motorcycles. Shit hit all also one hundred other thing the come on yes. After the media blitz settles down Julianne Returns to normal life. She moved to Germany and goes to the University of Kiel in one thousand nine hundred eighty and she studies biology and zoology and she actually earns a doctorate Yeah and she ends up marrying another biologist and they moved back to Peru. She's researching bats. He's researching wasps. A match made in heaven. He's in the documentary. Width Earth in one thousand. Nine hundred eighty eight. She participates in a documentary belt. Cold Wings of hope directed by Werner Herzog and in twenty eleven. Julianne writes a book about her experiences with the crash and her survival entitled when I fell from the sky is such a good title. Yeah you did a book immediately. He's straight up straight up you full-on fell from the sky. Yeah and that is the unbelievable survival story of seventeen year old Julian Cup key the sole survivor of Lanza flight five. Oh eight home. My God to that's intense. I love it. The the will to survive that she had to have yup to to go that long. Yeah is incredible. I think everyone has it in them. I think everyone has it in them. Yeah I really do I do. That's beautiful I do. Yeah you're right. Your faith in humanity is beautiful. Well but I think that's like it's lizard brain stuff where you just keep fighting like. Yeah at that point. You'd have to. That's true it's like if you can't walk anymore you might as well keep taking some steps. Go and that is our philosophy about life to. It's like if you just have one sandal. Then walk with. I make sure you don't step on a snake were barefoot offers during raise careful stingrays. We'll kill you. That's right good job. Should we do some fucking her as let's do it. Okay you WANNA go first. Oh sure I'd let it up to This is from Cassa di coattail on instagram. Fucking her as well on our daily walk with masks on because it's the right thing to do and so people won't silently judge us like Georgia it's Karen uh-huh and we saw one of those heart warming dog videos. You see on social media but in real life an elderly woman's dog. I believe it was a border. Collie walk down her front path to pick up her mail from the mailman. The dog took the male walked back up the steps and delivered the mail to her. It was amazing. We usually come home from these walks disappointed in humanity in general and it says all caps. Why are there so many packs of teenagers on SKATEBOARDS WITH NO MASKS? Do they not have parents that it was nice to see something so simple and kind love one another and be? Safe Stephanie. In Redondo Beach Nice Stephanie. I WON'T JUDGE YOU. Thank you okay. This one is from Lauren. Michelle it's Lauren. Michelle my fucking her today on my brother's thirty six birthday. We found out that his brain tumor the past nine months have been life changing for my family watching my brother. Go through brain surgery than Chemo. And radiation has been heart wrenching. An incredibly emotional for all of us got but if anything has a bit if anything it is made are are close family even closer about a month ago my brother Don his Michael Jordan Jersey while ringing the bell after completing his treatment and today while wearing his Chicago Bulls Starter Jersey from one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. We received the news that his tumor had shrunk. He's not completely out of the woods yet but things are looking up so fucking. Hurry for the best birthday gift. My brother his twin. Oh one it was one brother's birthday and they got the good news about the other brother. So fucking her for the best birthday gift my brother. His twin received this year. Fucking hurry for his amazingly supportive wife who I'm honored to have her sister-in-law and fucking hurry for the Jordan Era Chicago Bulls who who who have brought crazy luck to my family at this time. Ssd GM and hug your siblings Lawrence. That's beautiful amazing. Yes this is from Jess Danya. And it's not a fucking hurry while it is later but it says fun fact. I was named after Baby Jessica. The story goes. My older sister was three years old. And after my family watched the story. She kept saying they got baby. Jessica out of the well. Now you need to get baby Jessica out of MOM's Tummy and then there's one of those emojis of thank God because my father originally wanted me to be named tranquilly. A- Frankly Alenia Tranquil Alenia uh-huh and then there's an Emoji of hand slap to the face but Jessica stuck thanks to my sister who wouldn't stop calling me. Baby Jessica after that fucking array for big sisters who picked better names than my parents do tranquil lineage tranquil. Look me so soothing and relaxing okay. This is this ascent by MFM 007 murdering James Bond since March sixteenth. I have been at home with both kids. Nine eleven full-time. So we've been doing heavily so we've been doing new activities to keep ourselves busy while still at home. One of them's chocking up the driveway. At first it was all of us being that the kids get bored easily. They left the art activity and I fell deeper into the activity and then in parenthesis better than doing laundry and dishes. Now I am a chalk legend of the neighborhood I have created some easy ones that I had created some easy ones at first but I have leveled up. I lot of neighbors looking forward to the new pieces also. I made a new friend while doing this. She is a true Muira list. She's come over a couple of times and was extremely generous and made to art pieces. I Wish I could upload the photo she did a real. I wish I could but know. But it's yeah. She Did Realistic Vulture and Realistic Butterfly. I have done a tree frog. A sea turtle hatching from an egg and a funny shark. Bird that's right of bird with a sharks head. I saw him of it and I couldn't resist good thing about this. This art is every time it rains canvas. Thank you ladies for what Y'all are doing. It take care we will be chalking it up even after this. God Damn pandemic is over Yours Cheryl. I love it so good. Do It's like you're forced into these things like. Yeah that's awesome that you're doing chuck murals in your driveway. I bet it's like so stress relieving. Can you please favor and do a? What is it a river dolphin? Please please a water dolphin. A river dolphin either. Most my last one is from. Jc Nicole to ease my fucking her. Is that after four years of working full-time and going to college full time. I finally paid off my car. I'm only twenty and learned responsibility the hard way I had to remind myself that even amongst the chaos going on now. I am still capable of accomplishing things every week. You and Karen Miami that even though we on a pandemic it's not a productivity contest. That's right I'm proud of myself and I'm proud of everyone. Who is making it through life right now hell? Ya Niamey's Okay this one is a from formaldehyde. Good my talking. Her A is that I didn't do shit. I didn't leave my house or anything other than groceries. I didn't let my kids flow the common sense rules. That are in place for everyone's safety. I stayed home eight the same boring as to that we've been eating for eight. Goddamn weeks watched every episode of Golden Girls. The millionth time kicked my family's ass in settlers of Catan and rummy q talking love rummy. It's a good game survives. A shit show. That is learning for a first grader. A sixth grader and a tenth grader. And most importantly I didn't contribute to the spread of Cova nineteen stays sexy and stay the fuck at home. Formaldehyde you hand head. And we want to say that state home is safe is for the people who can't stay at home for the essential workers who have to be at the grocery store who's to be you know the cops and the first responders and the hospital workers and all the people who cannot stay at home we working at. Domino's pizza there for the people who have to work in the car right now because they fucking money so they have families to live the yes. Let's respect those people and say we can exactly like please be like formaldehyde. And stay home and don't do shit and play Gin rummy. Mother of three young kids can fucking do it and like make it interesting. Gee Whiz you can we can all we love you guys. We hope or helping during these crazy times and we we got your back and thank you guys for listening to us in letting still do this and say anything that we get to do. Yes for all your support. Yeah and it's Especially these days is such a fun thing to look forward to it is. It's great thank you all so much and stay sexy and don't get murdered. Go meet you WANNA cookie okay. So this is pretty exciting apple. Tv pluses new crime. Drama is called defending Jacob and follows an assistant. Da whose life is turned upside down when his son is accused of murder so the assistant. Da is played by Chris Evans and also stars. Michelle dockery and Jaden Martell. Everyone is so good in it. It's limited series and they play a family whose fate hangs in the balance of the legal system. Right so apple asked us to partner with them to create this special content to give our listeners a chance to put themselves in the barber families shoes. That's right and we were lucky enough to sit down with the show screenwriter. Mark Bombeck as well as the director morten till dumb. Who's they're both so talented and we're going to have a little deeper dive into defending Jacob. Enjoy OKAY. We are very excited to be talking to screenwriter mark. Bombeck AND DIRECTOR. Morten told them they have their new show on Apple. Tv Plus it's a crime drama called defending Jacob. Congratulations you guys. Thanks for talking to us today or glazier having US Georgia. It's so nice to meet you like I've been a murderer known for a while. Like I know Bailey while working on the show because I live in New York I used to drive home on the weekends and very often your podcast would be the thing I listened to as I was driving home So do you want to tell us a little bit about how you guys got involved in this project? Sure this is marked talking so I was sent the book that the show is based on really responded to it and so I don't write in and wrote a pilot script and an what I thought. Those first few episodes could be and Was talking with the producers and we were talking about who might be director to bring in in warns name came up and I was overjoyed. I thought bringing his Scandinavian sensibility. Listen his artistry would be a great fit at all making which is all about character which are great. I don't believe in like people are inherently good or enhance. Ill were all. Hammering system is weird in between whereas our moral compass. Are we going to do? I think? That's what makes this show. So different is that. It's not a typical who done it. It's kind of a- got those little nuances where you know you think to yourself. What would I do in that situation? Not Having Kids I. I'm like turn that tournament. Which of course wouldn't really. So what do you guys think sets us? Apart from the typical whodunit. The morality of it is family. It's very much about the aren't child relationship in pudding that to a stress test. And you know. Oftentimes we live our lives with little fractures in our relationships. Whether it's with our parents or with our spouse and we can go a very long time that way and then something like a crown. Kerr's in really institute task starts to rip it all apart well and that is interesting because we all like to think that we are good people and moral people and we'd make the right decision and how you would start rationalizing what you will do. That's different than if it was a normal situation. You know what I mean like. Suddenly it's just like yeah. I can see hiding that I can see pretending you didn't know that I can see you know getting rid of evidence or whatever because it's your family member you guys got like an insanely Stellar Kathy for this show Chris Evans. Michelle Dockery Jaden Martell. So it's Captain America Lady. Mary and the Child Hero from it. Like ever- every you know every person that walks on screen you're like Whoa. Whoa this not thinking like let's get the biggest impossible we WANNA fool will be perfect for this. Who Do we really would love that? I wanted to to cast a little bit out of the box and then have to be Chris which were now the Couldn't be anybody else. It's which is so perfect the park and Michelle came on the. We both Love Michelle in downtown Abbey but also godless which has the American acts. Axes impressed us. J. is just uncanny addition for the parks and when we saw it it was so it just jumped out of it And it was obvious that he has to be up because he kind of has the hardest part of Admiral Way or performance. Was You'd never really supposed to figure out what's actually going on inside of this character and I also he has to add that layer of being a teenager and never fully answering your parents questions with anything more than a nod and he does that so well. It's very fascinating to think about that part where I'm like am I judging him. Because I don't like his personality I'm give attributing like yeah absolutely or you know or is that what happens. Sometimes where it's these surface things that you're actually putting on somebody that could be completely innocent. That's the great thing about teenagers. Suspects is that their behaviors and so what he says or does especially jade is just as saying uncannily gifted at matic in a way that feels very plausible berry appropriate for his age. In you know. That's the subjective fear we're trying to instill the audience is that you're at the mercy of his performance missing. His his parents are aware. You're trying to determine. Is this just normal? Taciturn teenage talk or is this something definitely. I think one thing everyone wants to know is. Can you tell us? One negative thing about Chris Evans. So we're not so in love with him idiotic. Got a little. You do almost look for Chink in the armor because he he is really a great earth inside and use blessed with these Good looks right humble about them so I I. It sounds totally like a shame. But I really can't rest hard well mark and Morton thank you guys so much for talking to us today. This has been so fine. Well you have to follow at Apple. Tv On instagram and twitter to join the discussion about defending Jacob each week. They're going to post a crucial question about that week's episode so you can find out what you and other viewers would actually do in this situation and watched sending Jacob on Apple. Tv plus every Friday thanks guys.
Midday Brief for Wednesday, January 30th
"Uh-huh. I'm Jay are Whalen in the newsroom at the Wall Street Journal in New York, the polar vortex has plunged temperatures in the mid west of their lowest level in decades closing schools and knocking out mail delivery. A national weather service says the coldest spot Wednesday morning was buffalo North Dakota with a temperature reading of minus forty nine degrees Fahrenheit and the coldest wind chill was in park. Rapids, Minnesota at minus sixty five air travels also suffered with more than a thousand flights affected as temperatures are too low for airfield workers to load bags or get planes ready for take-off United cancelled about eighty percent of its schedule and its hub at Chicago's O'Hare international airport or about five hundred of the more than six hundred Delhi flights at operates there. Plus about seventy percent of all flights to and from Chicago's midway airport were cancelled Wednesday as well, including Southwest Airlines, which cancelled more than seven hundred flights and midway and in Washington, the committee tasked with hammering out a deal and border security meets for the first time. Wednesday with a deadline to avert a second government shutdown as February fifteenth draws closer. But the lawmakers will be mostly focused on reaching a homeland security deal on border security, and potentially broader immigration issues for more on these and other stories of the day, go to wsJcom or the WSJ app.
22: When your flight gets cancelled is getting a rental car a good idea?
"Hey travelers welcome to the travel reviews that online podcast were we are sharing reviews of places to visit and other travel tips that can come in handy on your next vacation or leisure trip. Join me this episode, and if you have any questions to reach out, see trap edge email, dot com story ideas, and guest recommendations for the podcasts are also welcome. Travelers, Christoph trap. How's it going everyone thanks for listening another. Really appreciate you tuning in and. Thinking through travel strategies with me in hearing my ideas. On what's worth it and what's not worth it so Let's talk about the whole thing of people standing at airports when there are traveling. And when they say, Oh, we can just drive. You know what I'm talking about I'm standing at Chicago O'hare airport. And plane is delayed or cancelled or a few years ago I was out there and there was a fire at the. Control Tower and a bunch of flights were cancelled and there was really no travel for for quite a while like a because there was a fire in the control tower. So they didn't have air traffic control for a while. And a lot of people are like Oh. Let's just go to car. Let's go get a car blah. Blah Blah, but getting in a car. To drive anywhere. Is Not always a good idea financially. or it's not feasible quite frankly. So let me let me explain what I mean by that. One Way Car Rentals Cost. More. Usually. Then round trips or just returning into the same location. So for example, I have rented a car before driving from Cedar rapids that their program Bastad. which is one, hundred, ninety, six miles roughly. Flying to Chicago. And You know going to Chicago staying there for conference for three days. For under two hundred dollars. and. Then one way cars from. O'hare. To Cedar rapids. Like three hundred bucks four, hundred Bucks Five, hundred bucks I actually did that before with my daughter and I think it was three hundred but it was literally we picked up the car we drove it over and we dropped it off. You know like three hundred bucks or something like that and. You know just just overnight. In a snowstorm and I know they charge you for twenty hours minimum. But at the end of the day, we didn't need it for twenty four. and. The other thing is you also don't know of any cars are available. So standing. At the gate and say, and we should just drive is really not the way to go about it. So let me let me walk through my strategy every time I'm trying to look for. Solutions. So stick let's stick with the driving thing. Let's assume you can drive wherever you need to go on the final leg. Of Your trip. And What I do is I pull up the hurts APP. When I got the inkling that a fight might be cancelled or or significantly delayed. Now you gotta remember. Driving from Chicago Cedar Rapids Still Four Hours. So unless it's delayed at least five hours, six hours. I'm not making any time because first of all, I got to walk over to the to get the car right then I have to. Find an agency that actually has cars. Then I gotta drive home. You got to get out of O'hare. That's PROB- depending on you know. Non Cova Times. For example, that could be a mess zone depending when you leaving there might be rush hour traffic. I remember. So. You can take the l from O'hare. To subway to downtown, and it's like forty five minutes and I've. Taken the car before rush hour got picked up by Nice car. And you know it's ninety minutes at least almost two hours to get through rush hour from O'hare to loop in Chicago and it was funny because the guy was a business trip and they sent a car. And I said I could take L. and he says well true but then you'd be taken now. which is a very different experience than sitting in the back of A. Limo so anyway. So. You got to think about that, and then next thing is, how do you get home from wherever you have to drop it off? Can Somebody pick you up? Is Your car the airport you know. So then do I drop it off at the airport or drop it off. So there's all kinds of things you have to think about it's not as easy as saying let's just go take a car. So what I do is I usually go into the hurts APP I while I'm standing at the gate and I look You know where what's available? How much is it? Then I go onto the nation. A Nation National. APP. Then, there's other sites you can check it's really hard to book. Cars with points on short notice if you have a lot of American airline points. You might be able to book a car, but I think it's not possible to do that. On short notice Ah, because like one, for example, what happened is We've got stuck in a snowstorm from cedar from Chicago to Cedar rapids driving. After a flight was canceled indeed sometimes, I'm not opposed to it, but you want to think about it. You want to think about all the different factors. And I looked for work could stay on point so I didn't have to have another expensive didn't necessarily want and I couldn't book any hotels on points. It was too late. I had I had to do I to pay cash so it wasn't terribly expensive, but something to keep in mind. The other thing I do is I look immediately for hotels. So especially, if it's the last flight out or the second to last flight out I, see if there's any hotels and it's kind of interesting especially hair I've seen that before I'm standing there and the worst the. Weather gets the farther the hotels go out and the more expensive. They get the longer you wait. So really kind of a tricky situation. Honestly. But I always look in those apps to see. What my options are and what the is because if it's GonNa, cost me six hundred dollars to fly home. Right. To drive a car home and a hotel cost me a hundred fifty. Tell spend the night in Chicago honestly in from Fight Tomorrow and depending on what the what the cancellation is for. You know they might not pay back their line. So if it's weather related, they're not gonNA pay anything but if it's maintenance for example they'll get you hotel even though I found that a lot of the hotels that the airlines give you. They're not necessarily the kind of hotel I want to stay in. You know we did the same thing in in Dallas when. My twelve year old and I went to. Come. And we basically. Looked forward, tell when there was a delay. So. From there, we found the hotel and basically. Signed up in the APP and we walked up and everything was ready. And certainly that was in. Dallas. So there was no opportunity to drive to California or to drive home or anything like that. So just something to think about there's multiple options usually. Usually, I like the book through the specific APPS and I still go to my. My favorite brands, APPs honestly. But in those situations of might be good to look. At a system that aggregates everything. So like Google you know look on Google or whatever priceline I guess can't think of any examples right now because I don't use those too often but certainly. You know way your options and keep an eye on things and a lot of times quicker you move to quicker The quicker you can get something done because once everybody does it it's really really hard to do. In the case of that fire in Chicago I actually. I actually you. Just hung tight, and my flight was one of the few to go out now. I know that was going to happen. No, it's a little bit of a gamble. But. I also knew the lines were long so. I didn't see any opportunity to actually. Do anything other than just kinda hang tight because literally everybody at that airport was affected. So there you go. That's my thought for the day hopefully everybody's staying safe and sanitised and healthy and if you're travelling. Be Safe and. Make the best out of it. I'm Kristoff Trap, until, next time.
Ms. Pat's Weekly Wrap Up
"Starving advocate thank you for listening to the Star Burns Audio podcast network. We have so many great comedy shows that. Add to your playlist just last week on stubborn audio. On profiles and Eccentricity we discovered the tale of one behold Garcia. A double agent. Who Duped the Nazis with twenty seven faked? Spies gated off reporting mixture of truth and lies on new player has joined keep Jesse discuss grand theft auto five and continue to release daily updates from quarantine. On y'all ever Dave Ross. And Hampton young discussed the temptations of dating and Breaking Warranty Search Star Burns audio on apple podcasts spotify or any podcast platform for a full list of our shows with host including Quinta Brunson. Jackie Johnson and many others. Don't forget to follow us on instagram and twitter at star Burns audio. Enjoy the show and remember stay safe. Stay healthy and keep laughing. Starving was of Yao. There's a rebel week for me. 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Get a phone call to come up there. Be His fiancee to pick him up. We get there and they say will we get him down to the call came out come hell with the fuck you me come head when he walked in his Bitch. Watteau he gotTa get drugged about these bids so make a long story short. We get updating in a wheelchair. Can't move laid out fucking bad day as his fucking manager a supervisor. I'm like what the fuck you giving me. What the fuck you call me for. I say he like he day. He asked five bloodshot red. He leaned over the chiller. Like somebody beat the shia-dominated knocked amount As we have a fever she like no she said No. He don't have a fever. You got them lie. He'd look look Landed in his uniform as you know he just fell out of work as they will. He fell out a work. You'RE GONNA call me the fuck you call now on one foot. Do I look like I know how to speak medical terms? I don't know she about Nobody when they fall out. I ain't even good at putting a band aid on. 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They ended up putting them in. Icu in emerging Fucking feet will two hundred five of or something and they put him in ICU. For Day or tune in mood I'm up to the world and do a five. We gain singing. I am so glad I told my son two weeks before this year have asked look seen you go to the bathroom. Hold your dicky shake it out in peace and only washing. Hey as She sear. Don't you want to give it a whole? Get to your fucking peel your cap back on your dead as fuck what you don't come into my have come into mouth. Don't come into my house to Corona viruses. Don't the coronal buyer made me separate from my son? As old as she gets me I have a nipple fall up then got one. He'll fall up. I can't get RAV I have. I can't handle memo's stone by Tolstoy so you know I can handle more. Forgive hours so we'll get to the house bill. He they get asked you in the end of his role in the funding. Paul was you know it is scary for having my side is one of the lucky is wars. You know wonder. 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They decide to stay around so Daddy you got that corona virus and they only two years old two or three years ago. I don't know holiday and his Ahi behind today. Dead out a daily guide their corona virus. I told him I said next time. You take issue series. Won't you a wash your hands put on a maze and stop taking you run? The she'd be my youngest. Sounds like I said. Tesa you go back these house. You Go fucking Comeback Mile. 'cause you know give me my who's GonNa see so he's like I just read it I want to be. I kissed a girl virus sooner. He brother got a yeah. Nigga cry like a beach. He crashed as much as they. Can you say some tea is in case you got a crappy on ventilator? 'cause you've just crying all your motherfucker deal okay. He's GonNa be alright but he alright so we all left a bad looking forward to doing. I think we're GONNA live video. Tamar me and Gary on a kid will be renamed shelling trying to get it read ninety. Show cooking cousin. Because there's I would be doing cooking cousin so looking forward to getting back to videos and having fun look forward to come nowadays quantity. I would like to stay in in about three weeks white Pay My based me but if I take my hat. Black as on back to work but added Buyers joke I was tell my husband. I said she just falls in my lap I cannot start displaying these fears of this whole ordeal. The silliest child Ma I can't wait it turned me to be so y'all can hear the nitty gritty of it and she was just facetime yard decor locked in the Feel like you're in jail. He's a year as Mumford Tap trafficking cocaine mobile bring your cocaine stuffing his book. Thing won't let you out negate lease. You gotta walk good wanted to look at messy small. I had a splint my either look at one I will be when I was in jail as beat thankful to be open house by the time you come out. You'RE GONNA be like castaway new executive so that. That's my rebelled for the week. Our job please. They say I want you to know that my son is doing so much better. I WanNa think all you guys were praying for my son praying for my family. This you know sitting positive is that there are truly believed it out at praying in good energy output about. My family came back muscle. He'll I WANNA thank egion. Ever wanted you guys on the bottom for support meal what I do support. My family support my keys on the hour. Watching videos appreciate the smallest Am I gotta stay tuned? 'cause I got some really big news coming out very very soon. I can't wait to share. What you guys you. How pleased they say. Keep your hands clean. Keep your hair clean. Keep Your Keys. Clean your call him clean. Keep everything clean ski mask on today. Find out what the fuck is going on in this country. Stay safe and I truly appreciate Egypt. One y'all been mispaid out onto the next week wrap-up stay safe Steven's podcast network.
CBS 2 NEWS AM UPDATE 07.13.20
"I'm wondering a guests at here. The stories making news at this hour, a second child drowns in northwest Indiana and just four days, the latest and nine year old girl who was swimming at the Lakeshore Camp Resort in portage around five PM. Last night. Officials say lifeguards did respond, but weren't able to save her. Nearly three point three million. That is a number of corona virus cases in the US, since pandemic hit four months ago at least one hundred thirty five thousand people in the US have now died Florida saw record. Record number of new cases as for the first time in four months. New York City didn't lose a single life. Dacoven nineteen and the TSA says an officer at O'hare airport terminal to tested positive for in one thousand, nine hundred. The officer was at work yesterday morning, when he or she learned of the positive test result, and was sent home, all workers who had close contact with that officer in the past two days now after self quarantine, your forecast, mostly sunny, a high around eighty-three from the newsroom. I'm Audran ambigous.
AP One Minute Headlines Nov 26 2018 11:00 (EST)
"Holiday tips and wine stories from Kristen, and Paula total wine and more Chardonnay paired with lobster, mashed potatoes, simply delicious, how good am I with wines? Put it this way. My mother-in-law now loves me for introducing her to her favorite wine. Now, there's nothing I can't deal. Whether you're entertaining or just bringing the wine, we'd love to share are always low prices with you this holiday. Cheers. Come explored are twelve northern Virginia locations now open and rest in plaza, America's said der- across from wholefoods shop online. Total wine dot com. Did west dorm. I'm Ed Donahue with the AP. News minute flights are delayed. Roadsters roads are snow covered in parts of the midwest. We've actually seen six to twelve even some locally higher amounts inches of snow with this system and flights are delayed at O'Hare airport in Chicago the food and Drug administration plans to overhaul the nation's decades old system of approving most medical devices, which experts have long criticized for failing to catch problems with risky implants in medical instruments. General Motors says it will lay off more than fourteen thousand factory and white collar workers in North America and put five plants up for possible closure. Police say a thirteen year old joyrider lead officers on a chase. That hit speeds of one hundred miles per hour in eastern, Iowa, she and five other young people in the van were taken into custody. And after the mini van was stopped near Davenport global. Stocks are rising today is big technology and retail stocks in the US recover from recent losses. I'm Ed Donahue. Holiday tips and wine stories from Paul Kristen and Dexter at total wine and more might top tip. Not all gifts have to be for others. Treat yourself Chris Weitz like a floral Soviet-bloc pairs, perfectly, shrimp, cocktail and other light appetizers. Now. That's how you kick off the holiday meal, most adults smile and average of twenty times a day. Make that Twenty-one for someone you love with the perfect bottle from total wine and more. Whether you're entertaining or just bringing the wine, we'd love to share are always low prices and ridiculous election with you this holiday, total wine and more. Cheers.
78 - Preacher, Part 2
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I still need like an opening like like hook churn, like table readers, call them table readers. Hello, shithead. What's up table readers? What's up table readers cine fans? I mean I'm immediately hooked. You got you got one like like for Titi, unlike and re like the Facebook page. Oh man. That's not helping at all. No. Welcome to episode seventy eight. I believe table reads, I why why would I even say it? If I'm not sure Tiffany, tens, right? As the big one that's a milestone. Everybody goes to exactly welcome to preach part two. We are reading preacher by John August, who I'm sad to tell you all is a good, writer and has written a good thing here. I don't know why he keeps writing all these Tim Burton things Tim Burton. I am certain is fucking up. This guy scripts has to be maybe reading I being Tim Burton. I mean look this guy if he ever listened to this. He's, he's going to be like y'all Tim's my friend man with what you talking shit on. Tim, for Tim Burton, used to be my very favorite director, not a joke. I mean, do you see all my Manshat so nine thousand nine hundred Batman, nineteen Eighty-nine Batman really changed my entire life. Yeah. That was that was my nerd coming out. Sure. It was, it was puberty for line, nerd, brain, nerd birdie, whatever Tim Burton was great. And then he stopped that and started being what he is now. Yeah, but John August's fucking killing it with the script guys man script. This is a good. It's really good. It's really good. And I'm sure that Garth Ennis loves this, and I thought I had his Email address turns out, I don't. Oh, what? So I guess I'm not gonna find out but I love this you love this. I love this. We love this. So guess what? We're gonna foregone read it previously. On table. Reams. So last time, we started off by meeting the Saint of killers, a cowboy with a heart so full of hate that he froze hill over and then just the top it off killed. The mother fucking devil do. You can't do that from there. We met young, Jesse Custer then younger Jesse Custer, then back to young Jesse Custer then grown-up but still kinda young Jesse Custer, which is when he meets a hot little firebrand named tulip O'Hare, then settles down with. And we went through a lot of jesse's childhood when I say, a lot of all we saw his father, get murdered in front of his is we found out, he was raised by some creepy coltie religious people. They put him in a coffin toss them into lake. Yeah. And he made friends with an imaginary version of John Wayne, that I did a terrible impersonation of I mean it was bad. I was I was like in my head going. Why isn't this coming out? Right. I know I can do John way. It wasn't. It wasn't nearly as bad as you're making it. He did. It was. It was pretty bad. I'll I'll try to get it better. Later. I just maybe I have to remember when you do the Irish accent. Oh man. That was rough and faith in book or. Totally. I think we'll Howdy partner. Give me there to John Wayne you getting close. Yeah. That was still terrible. It's dope worse. You have cigarettes. I could have like a fake don't like a fake piece of paper some that might help. I have a fuck communism later. Oh. There's a lot of that in the first two there was you guys wanna hear a lighter clicking? Thank you. If it's that's what really rings your bell in there. So that new podcast direction the lung cancer, he has more shooting. So when we left, we just saw Jesse being happy with tulip that's probably not going to change it. All right. I mean that's just going to be the status quo from here on out. Right. That's what the movies are about. Yeah. Stay in the same and being just happy. Once you hit page twenty-five like you're set. This is the end game now. Yeah. Then it's just coasting the rest of the way. Feed in. Exterior Durango night snow, clings to the peaks of the sung decreased us wind swaying, the tops of the giant pines the night sleeps will. Fade out exterior small house day, Jesse scrapes the ice and snow off the windshield of his truck as he finishes. He notices the sound of wind chimes. He doesn't spot the tiny flicks of light around him. They couldn't be firefly's. It's too cold. We can see his breath interior truck day, Jesse puts his thermos on the seat starts the ignition in the rear view mirror. We see a man watching him. It's the Blunk Jesse doesn't see him as he pulls out of the driveway. Exterior, Colorado wrote, Colorado, Colorado county road, I can't speak day. That's a rough one lazy flakes of snow, drift down from the heavens, sixty feet up. Jesse is working in a harness replacing ceramic insulators on a power pole. It's dangerous. Painstaking work. Particularly given the cold. He sees a pickup truck. Pull up next to the power line repair truck at the base of the poll, the base of the poll. Two men get out of the pickup Jesse. Can't see their faces from this angle, jesse's, crewmen, walks over to talk with the men, suddenly, the crewmen is down in the snow dead or unconscious, the smaller of the two men aims a rifle up Jesse. It's T. See the bigger one is Jody, Jesse you grandma has a job for you. Hold on Jessie. There's no conceivable way to run cut to exterior county road day. Jesse on clips from his harness, keeping his eyes locked on T C. And Jodi both of aged, but not as much as you think Jodi could still beat a guerrilla to death. How'd you find me your grandma? Marie is connections. Very hot places shouldn't. She be did. She's one hundred years old. Like I said, hop places. Love your Jody voice. It is perfect. It's. Almost like you know who these characters are. I know a lot of people that do mass of great. Just he takes a look at his crewmen still split on the asphalt. Yeah. You were teasing your everybody. But now it's a one man show friend of yours. Nah, get an a truck never. Jody walks up towering over him. Jesse stanzas ground are still break you in half. We'll see cut to exterior diner interior pickup day. Through a snowy smear. We see a cozy diner serving lunch to truckers, and shopkeepers. This is jesse's. POV. Reverse to find Jesse leaning against the pickup truck window. He's taking a fierce beating his. Right. Is nearly swollen shut. You hunger. Jesse HALE extra us visa pie. They own looks good through the diner window reveal tulip. She's a waitress she chats with an elderly couple a window booth. What did you say? Jodi want to split it. Her name's tulip, right? She smell. Her name's tulip rat, but she smells good book. You. Do what Marie says? And we won't a finger. Owner, you say one word or any but at TC cuts or tits off Nash just for starters. You know how he likes it stopping him. What does she want? You're going to Texas. There's a bunch. There's a church and Ville, brand new. You're going to be the preacher. Why? Kuzma, Marie says. So fucking great that women raised you, you were an orphan, Jesse just glares. He won't give them the pleasure of recounting how he became an orphan. You're going to go to and Ville, and you're gonna preach the word of the Lord for how long yes, long is. It takes exterior church at en Ville day. A key slides into a lock. Jesse opens the door to the chapel. He's wearing a black shirt with a clerical collar is iconic outfit. His face is still badly bruised. As he walks inside. We crane up getting a better view. The church itself is unremarkable, a simple white steeple. But from this high angle, we noticed something, unusual about the land around it. The ground has been raised in concrete firms. Concentric berms. I was I was focused on berms. Anybody know a berm is. Yeah. So. Oh, you ride mountain bikes on them on berms. Yeah. Not in bike berms. Yeah. They say that word about a million times and making a murderer on Netflix. That's where you learned it. It's a good place. I learned it riding mountain bike. So we'll all right. I learned a new work day everybody. It's berms about concentric, but burn raised in concentric berms forming a giant circle with the if it's concentric, wouldn't it be a couple of giant circles. Yeah. He's right. He's ride like almost like a maze busted script with the. We've found. This guy really fucked. Oh, god. Only ten more minutes this. With the church at the centre. It's like nothing. You've noticed on the ground. It's nothing. You'd notice on the ground, but looking down from the clouds, it's very distinct almost a bullseye. I don't know what I'm supposed to say. Exactly. Transition to interior church danville day, Jesse is up at the lectern giving his sermon. There are only three people in the whole church. I can tell you what's in the bible, a know every word of it gotten beaten into me when I was a kid, a no. In the word ain't the same as no in the answers after time. You're not even sure the questions close on one of the audience members alone woman with a head scarf, probably cancer. But if I'm going to stay in here talking at you. Yes. Remind as well ask, why does the world seems so perfect yet so broken she nods in recognition as we come around on her. We reveal a new family sitting behind her. We're compressing seven months of Sunday's into a single sermon each week, the churches a little more full. Jesse's wounds heal his strength returns. Why would a God that loves us tree too, so bad? And why would why would he care so much, what we think of him. Can he be bigger than that? Jesse's questions. Get a good reaction from the audience. He's not giving false hope. He's speaking. The truth feel free to preach this up a bit while, he's given a serve you keeps us asking to prove our love, but the only time I felt love the only time I felt love it was just there just happened, the only people who demanded love were psychopaths trying to scare me into Abedian. Is that the kind of God that we want the church is now nearly full? It's a crowd of misfits, and outcasts who don't fit in at other churches. Bikers and twelve steppers strippers and spinsters in what kind of boss is he anyway, one of his lieutenants betrays him, and he gives him the kingdom of hell, he has this Celeste rule Bill bureaucracy. Saints and angels to hear our prayers. But we never get to know why exactly exterior church danville day. Storming dark, clouds, cover the sky riled by strong winds. It's all top secret heaven is wound. John CI. We're supposed to have faith in faith. Do as we're told. The clouds part in a circle above the church interior church danville day continuous back on Jesse. Fully in his moment. Then why give us free will in the first place if we're just puppets show us, the strings or KOTA sluice, if you're even there, suddenly, the doors blow open a sphere of glowing prison Matic. Radiance Swoosh is down the center aisle, as it moves it emits a piercing drone a swirl of bizarre chords, the sphere hits Reverend Jesse Custer's square in the chest throwing him back like a rag doll. Tendrils of liquid light forced their way into Jesse through his ears mouth nose in is Intel every glowing bid is gone the sound dissipates each note, resolving in the stunned audience. One man speaks up. I Reverend you okay, Jesse climbs to his feet grabs the lecture woozy, his eyes open. Glowing red. I am. That didn't work. You won't do it again. His voice is a thousand notes at once like nails on the chalk board of your soul. He grips the lectern. A dark light envelops him his feet, lift off the ground shadowy wings. Unfurl angelic yet. Sinister a lighter ups from jesse's chest, radiating, outward consuming him. He fights it. But it keeps growing brighter. You guys enjoying this. That'll Spock plan like metal solo. You're not. Coming in. It's fucking also. We hold on a second. Hold on just a second. Some fast paced rip metal like that's the scene right here. Oh, there we go. It is is that enough? Oh, that's awesome. Exterior church day, the light inside the church flare, so bright at the stained glass windows, work in reverse sending shafts of colored radiance into the stormy sky and Justice. Suddenly it stops, we find Jesse Custer at the podium. He opens his eyes. No longer glowing red. He looks at his hands. He is pressed impossibly deep welts into the wood with his fingertips. He looks out to his congregation, one hundred smoking corpses sit in the pews ignited from within by the event. Their bodies are cinders and ash, they're close have only been mildly singed by the conflagration of conflagration of the flesh dumbfounded. Jesse stumbles off the stage walking down the aisle. He gags from the smoke instead exterior church day, Jesse falls to his knees in front of the church looks up at the ruling sky for answers. The hole in the clouds fills in a curtain drawing. Shut cut to black. Fade in exterior roadside motel day. One story of painted cinderblock on aluminum windows, Ilta decade before big highways left this town island. Two men in their fifties. Sit in front of the manager's office listening to a football game on the radio. The were of insects is almost as loud. Interior motel room bathroom day, fresh from the shower with a towel around his waist Jesse stairs into the pitted mirror over the sink desperately trying to see beyond his face to whatever forces swirling inside him. Wider. We see the cowboy leaning back against the doorway as always the details of his face are lost within the shadow of his hat. This is his first line. Why don't you go ahead and do your best William money? Not John White. It's not waiting money. I thought I thought this cowboy was. Killers this. Hold on. Give me that name against on Gula William mile grow your money. What happened today? Luring to things like it, okay. Will wonder how you walked away. I don't know. They're gonna come asking God till sunup for the morning, paper has your face or the clerk sees it and wonders kinda man. He put in room one. Oh, six. What kind of man am I? Best find someone to remind you a beat then Jesse heads to the main room as he passes, where the cowboy was standing the phantom, gunman is gone Jesse is alone as he always was Jesse sits on the bed picks up the phone and dials from memory cut to interior pickup truck day. A cell phone buzzes on the dashboard. A woman's hand. Lifts the phone checks, the caller ID, unknown. Caller wider. We see it's tulip she considers answering, but ultimately clicks to send the call to voicemail. She flips down the visor mirror checks, her makeup, overdone borderline trashy, just right? Breeze twice psyching herself up, grabs her bag and gets out of the car. Title over to the girl, he left behind. Exterior, the rhino day, continuous tulip cuts across the parking lot of Houston's most infamous strip club except for the sign. There's nothing to distinguish it from the warehouses, and industrial plants around it. Tulips outfit matches her makeup with a skirt so short that are jacket. Nearly covers it interior the rhino entrance day. Tulip banners. From the blindingly, bright parking lot. It takes a beat for her is to adjust to the darkness. The Samoan bouncer big. Jimmy is wiping down his booth with windex. He is. Tulip. Here to see Wallace. You're expecting you. It's a titty bar didn't think I needed an appointment interior the rhino bar main club day, big Jimmy leads to up along the back of the club, where the music is pounding. Thumping. No matter what the time on the clock. It's permanent night inside a dozen or so patrons are the truly sad or devoted the dancer on stage is ten years and three overdoses beyond her prime. Yikes one tall feet man. Hey. Sault Ste Assad moves to intercept them. He's been waiting for an hour. He has to yell over the music. Now, suicide should be. Antonio, Antonio Berra's. Okay. I do. Do you wanna do? Like like has like. No, no, no, no. He should be like I got like. Zaria in birdcage, all all knowing all I'm saying all new alone. I flew from south golf are though. You do it, Jeff. Go for these. That's a little more Spanish, I'm going. I'm going. I've really Zeus part, actually, it might be Jesus This. I'm not sure how it's pronounced like Jesus in Walking Dead is Jesus not right. He might be the same. I don't really all of you at all. Like I think you should do. I don't know. You went ahead and did it that, right? Fine. I flew from. You took it to another level, and I flew from San Francisco for this in the how much a private jet costs the Jimmy Alexa, private door, the no, you're Hugh. Mr. Sod big. Jimmy gets the door open waves tulip through the sod tries to follow, but big, Jimmy blocks him. I want to know if he's worth it. Have you ever seen him with your own eyes? I don't work. The basement exasperated decide turns his attention to tulip. I don't think I'm doing his voice, right. As I recall. He's much more. Tim gun like you're looking for that kind of female. No Tim got way too classy for this guy. Oh, goodness. Exasperated decide turns his attention to tulip you, do you eat shit. Could I have a bath? Fuck you a real bear, not Batman. Big Jimmy holds out a warning finger, cool, it, he shuts the door keeping decide on the far side, big Jimmy locks the door again with a key tulip notes. This. Vietnamese sister, everything is LA you can't get in without keys to interior small apartment. Liberation. Flashback over racism in the readings is totally okay here. I don't feel like it. You did your best. I'm here for a limited time I wanted to save you guys from that conversation. Jesus go enough figured. I'll just throw some you're doing a good job. I appreciate that Phil like we'd have to read it like a preacher. You're doing God's work. Flashback tulip sits at the TRAN family's kitchen table talking with the father, mother and twenty one year old sister. They've been in the country for years. Vietnamese father, the mother never speaks, just keeps wiping a wet tears. No, it's, it's like a prison. Yeah. I think those. I think those brackets mean that he's speaking in Vietnamese, and we're going to subtitle it. I don't speak Vietnamese. Yeah, you just read the line, though the mother never speak. No. That's direction. You say like a prison. To say like a president. The mother never speaks just keeps wiping. Their might. Got it. I got it. I'm confused. The mother, just keeps wiping away. Tears of says it's just for show. The basement is what I make the Mani. You ever go down there? You don't go down there when they come back the way. I have to read. That's why you don't go down there and come back tulip looks at the high school graduation photo of Alice TRAN a younger sister, noticeably absent from the table back to interior the rhino slash Wallace's, office day, tulip buttons, her shirt, audition over club owner Wendell Wallace, a chubby man with a walrus moustache. Wave's big Jimmy out the door fetches an application in tax form from his desk, tulip watches as Jimmy locks the door behind him. It's a key deadbolt on both sides. I don't care who somebody reading of dance. What he checked references new girls who show up and show. That's me. That's you or your smart girl. Sure. Tomorrow. Chamara girls are trouble trouble. I'm not trouble, Mr. Wallace. I'm just here to make some money. I'm not in it for the art. That almost gets while a smile he hands are a clipboard. It's a stripper supposed to do with a clipboard smacker button with it. Keep notes smack as starts working on the forms. I was saving. You guys from you. Calluses is drift over to a Bank of three video monitors, which rotate between surveillance cameras throughout the club. Something he sees in one monitor sets him off. He grabs his walkie. Jimmy the guy in three on it afternoons are the worst droughts, and weirdo. Wallace turns back to tulip surprised to find himself staring at a nine millimeter drop the radio. Now a beat then Wallace tosses the walkie aside in disbelief wall serious stir Turco. Drove rendered Alice Tryon eighteen years old for you. Cut her to pieces and set her car on fire bullshit, should caulk Daryl. What's in the basement? Wallace tries to read her gauging how much she knows. That's where you took her, isn't it? That's where you make all your money or her sister, right? Got you into this fucking nukes. You'd think you're going to get a grim point confession. It'll never hold up. I know she fires the first bullet hits right between Wallace's is the next to eliminate any doubt. He's very dead. Tulip reacts more than she expected to. She's a great shot but not a natural killer. Actual death is still unsettling. We can only get seven thousand I know you said ten it's enough. Interior small apartment Houston night. Flashback. Tool of points to a rough sketch of the rhinos floor plan. How do I get out? The office has emergency exit, it goes right into the alley. But there's an alarm. That's fine. I'll be quick back to interior, the rhino slash Wallace's office day. Tulip slides, the heavy desk across the room blocking the hallway door. Takes four discs from the surveillance system. There will be no trace. She was ever hear gathering her bag. She heads for the emergency exit at the back of the room pushes the bar setting off a piercing alarm. The door. Only swings. Open three inches exterior alley day. The door is blocked by the bumper of two thousand six Toyota Corolla, despite a sign saying absolutely no parking. It's very specific. You think somebody like cut him off that day? Buck in two thousand six guerrillas silver now show, you, you fucking asshole. Toyota corolla. License plate. Q L, free one. The rhino. Oh, yes. Interior, the Reiner Wallace, office day tulip tries to slam the door open. She can't see what's blocking it, but it's clearly not budging. She spots big Jimmy and three other bouncer types on this Curie monitors. They are all rushing to check on the alarm with no apparent check on the alarm not the three gunshots. Those are fine. Those are normal. She spots. Big Jimmy and three other bouncer types on the security monitors. They are all rushing to check on the alarm with no apparent options tulip reload 's she'll shoot her way out, if she has to she drops a clip on the ground picking it up. She notices a brass keyhole in the floor. It was underneath Wallace's desk, a trap door tulip searches Wallace's body for keys finds the ring ten keys. No labels, just the fucking way. Pounding the door on the monitor. We see it's big, Jimmy wallows, forcing herself to remain calm. She looks through each key on the ring picking the most likely candidate the hallway door slams against the desk. Tries it. She was right. She opens the trap door to reveal a ladder leading down into darkness. The basement interior basement day, low ceiling, and cinderblocks bare lightbulbs scarcely push back the dark down here, we can hear the distant alarm still blaring above along with the heartbeat like thumping of the music and the club. Tulip reaches the bottom of the ladder. She immediately trains her gun on the open trap door above. She moves back along Awal brushing up against leather, straps, and hand tools. She doesn't notice that human arm is dangling behind her wrists still bound in shackles. She sees movement at the top of the ladder prepares to take her shot. Suddenly, the trap door shuts. They're not coming down there. Locking her in tulip wipes back her sweaty hair and tries not to panic your new. Tulip looks around startled. She doesn't know where the voices coming from your girl and scared, right? Here is an easy one to smell names. Cassidy. Did you know I read a little bit? You fuck hole. With more words is Irish accent comes through strongly. Where are you sheriff? I think I could see a light bulb. He must be lying. The only shelves in the far corner of the room and holds a single cardboard file box. A bloodstain is soaking through the edge still tulip cautiously approaches gun drawn indeed. The voice does seem to be coming from the box. I'm thinking being you're afraid we might be in a similar predicament, not identical granted, but tulip looks into the box where she sees the head of preciseness Cassidy. This brief word from our sponsor. Let's up dachshund ducats, Trevor Thompson, the self appointed looney tunes critic here. And if you like old cartoons and watching online reviewers dissect them, then you probably had the same thing I did about two years ago and what the watch what you're on the air, I said, why the heck isn't there a looney tunes critic? 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I really excited, I'm glad you read ahead. We didn't have that offer conversation. Well, he mentioned there was an Irish thing. So I was like, I don't know, when it's going to happen, and I didn't want to be like, you know, do my borat thing again. I thought you were actually making like an own the flat choice. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. He mentioned earlier. And I just scroll down a little bit. Nice heard I saw Irish and I was like, oh, good. I notice you're using your phone the battery died. Oh Android, right? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. One. Not on your life. Now. So, yeah, this is. Just so good. It's really good. It's, it's so good. I don't even wanna stand here talking to you, assholes talking. I wanted. I wanna to. It's fucking do it fade in. It speaks seemingly unimpaired by its impossibility. I didn't even wait for the scene to finish. I just saw head of the box out. We might could help each other tulip aims the gun at the head unnerved to the core. Cassidy's POV tulip is backlit. Her blonde hair glowing in the light. You can't blame Cassidy for thinking. I you're an angel. What the fuck are you Irish Catholic? But I'm open minded. He's been saying that for a century, these fuckers up there. Them fuckers up there them fuckers up there. What's say we Bonnie and CLYDE him off? Tulips disbelief cut to Montag. Tulip upon shackles. The arm from the wall, and a leg retrieves, a tour so wrapped in plastic suppressing her squeamishness tulip lifts cast Cassidy's head from the cardboard box-? I is it to the neck of the torso? We're vani tendrils grab tight applause real quick for you. Guys. Here have either have you seen the show misfits, British show as poster. You are missing out the guy that plays Cassidy on the TV show, the preacher TV show. Is a book by by the name of Joe Gilgen? And he's also on misfits, and both shows were amazing and you guys need to go home, and where do you get time to watch all this TV? I don't think watching things like we watch. Wasting no. I watch a lot of things. In fact, I am. I've been so busy at work. I'm way behind on my shows like five episodes are out at this point, as we're recording this of American gods. Which is one thing I've been like chomping at the bit caught up on that. Haven't seen a single one I'm caught up on that. I so far behind on shows this is me. This is me. Okay. So crazy at work. I can't even catch up all my shows. This is also me. It's probably time to rewatch parks and recreation. I, I am a conundrum wrapped in a moron. But if ever with arms attached Cassidy works on his legs. He's filthy and naked with a junkies thin body. But there's something fascinating about the way he moves like an Unstrung puppet assembling himself. He stretches his arms. Cracks is neck, retrieves, a pair of sunglasses from the shelf. That's all he's wearing answering her unasked question. My Dickel grow back just gotta feed. Not on you. Love your ISIS. He heads for the latter cut to interior, the rhino slash Wallace's office night, blood drips off the edge of a counter. Reveal Cassidy getting dressed in clothes. He's taken off one of the four bodies on the floor. He wipes the blood off his mouth, clean something stuck in his sharp teeth tulip achieves her bag digs out her cell phone insert new voicemail while she's checking the message Cassidy tries the emergency exit. It's still blocked. He leans his shoulder against the door pushing the parked car out of the way. That's how strong he is. Close on tulip listening to the message. She half smiles and disbelief interior truck night. Tulip drives Cassidy rides Chaka Solis, Jesse up and ditches, you know, no. No SIA gone. Yeah. The no fee was alive or dead. Yeah. One voicemail. No explanation on your drive in halfway across Texas to see him. Yeah. And this makes sense to you. You'd lack fuck. I envy him tulip lets herself smile Cassidy watches the edge of her mouth. He's smitten a knock. Exterior roadside motel night, tulip stands at the door to room. Oh, six sees movement in the people is someone looks out the door opens to reveal Jesse. They stand for beat just looking at each other then Jesse reaches a hand behind her next to kiss her. She stops him off thought you were dead a no. Every day I wanted to leave me again and I will kill you myself understood he pulls her in for the kiss. Lifts are up exterior roadside motel interior truck night. Still sitting in the truck Cassidy, watches tulip disappear into room. One of six Jesse gives a quick look around the parking lot. Then shuts the door Cassidy size gets out of the truck interior motel office night, Cassidy takes a room key from the night, clerk a heavyset Mexican woman who blinks at a rate that protrudes slow motion. This go shades right on the windows, because I could see myself sleeping light. The clerk just blinks. She does speak English. But Cassidy's accent is impenetrable to her. The windows, Ventanas drapes windows. Yes. Yes, windows. That's fantastic windows windows. Your say that rooms have windows in them. That's fucking incredible. You've revolutionize the hotel industry. Now this thing is I'm just speculating here. Some people might not some people might want sunlight burn them to ashes. So if we could block the sunlight, somehow that might help with repeat customers, what the fuck you said, why are you going, British? It's hard. It's hard Iris's bra might help with repeat customers it might help paid customer. So for block the sunlight, somehow that might help, but repeat customers confused the clerk takes different key from the rack reluctantly offers it to Cassidy, so this, what has drives on the others. That's why are exchanging ks. Now she shakes her head. Just find a priest. So I could marry you tonight. I can't imagine not having you in my life, every single moment forward car pulls up outside a door opens Cassidy, stiffens sniffs the air without looking and Hello, Mr.. Lawmen. Indeed. He's right. Sheriff route fifty enters the small office. Route is a self-described son of a bitch. Careful never to face him. Cassidy takes the first key and not so the clerk garages. He does he does with route who evidently has questions for the clerk exterior motel office slash parking lot nights. Cassidy risks, a look back sheriff route is indeed, asking the clerk something she nods Cassidy notices someone sitting in the back of the sheriff's SUV, the windows are down are ya? Are you know what this is about? As the figure leans into the light. We see his face is a grotesque distortion of normal human features swollen melted and waxy a steady leak of saliva. Drip, drips from his sunken, mouth J us you gotta face like an ours. Indeed. We'll call him arse face. He's nineteen. But you really couldn't tell no offense MS true. Ars face points to root who is still talking with the Clark the dog. And this is your done looking for a girl by chance. Maybe a girl in a roguish Irishman. Fruitful rural. Who will hold tro Vora ours? Good hunting. Then Opie fry the bastard. He takes a few steps forward. Then doubles back. You know, whether there's a store food all all go abroad. Ars face smiles in his way. Interior motel room night. Carrying a bag of groceries Cassidy sets his room key down on the desk. Listens. Rhythmic bumping along with moans and squeals. It's tulip and Jesse next door to of fucking how he turns on the TV an infomercial for kitchen. Gadget to drown out the noise gate, retrieves four packages of ground beef from the grocery bag sitting on the edge of the bed. Keats large clumps of raw beef with his fingers slurps, the blood off the phone interior, motel room bathroom night. Cassidy checks the shower, curtain liner, heavy white plastic light proof. He carefully on clips from the rod interior motel room night. Cassidy hangs the shower curtain liner under the thin drapes. He's halfway done when he notices movement in the parking lot exterior motel night. Cassidy's POV guests in pajamas, and underwear are leaving the other wing of the motel crouching low some have their suitcases, but most relief. Everything behind. At the dark edge of the parking lot. A sheriff's deputy is hurting them to safety interior motel room night. Fuck. He switches off the TV listens. More moans and banging Jesse and tulip or still going at it. He pounds on the wall, turn quit, you, rotten and look outside. They evidently don't hear him. Cassidy considers his next move decides on bold action. He makes a fists curses, the forthcoming pain and punches through the wall interior jesse's motel room night, Jesse and tulip both naked and sweating, look up to see Cassidy's, bloody hand reaching through the drywall like a row marrow zombie. What the fuck Cassidy pulls his hand back looking through the whole, he may smashed. He makes I almost that he made. Mitch this whole he can only see Jesse as he climbs off the bed turn up with you. I thought I heard her. She sits up pulling sheets around herself. Cassidy, I don't want to get dressed exterior motel night. A helicopter flies over its search like sweeping across a half dozen law enforcement vehicles ranging from state troopers to FBI to homeland security sharpshooters have three good angles. We settle on sheriff Roope who leans back against his cruiser frustrated to see feds running the show or face on the other hand is excited to see commotion. Y'all go home dole. It's going to grow up almost give it up. This is sheriff, right? Yeah. You'd think we got Osama bin, Osama bin Gandhi, and their anybody can blow up a church. It's in the script. You can read it word from the, you'd think we got Osama bin, God, guardian there, any can blow up charge is deputy looks over. You see the pictures from an Ville, people were incinerated from the inside out five Martian. Niggers FBI feel director stock will has the megaphone that's directly from the comics, by the way. What route? Oh, yeah. You stock. Well, sure. FBI feel director Stockwell has the megaphone. Ooh. Megaphone. This is the FBI for your safety Mugo, Wayne from windows, lie on the floor bit much. Interior motel rooms night. Jesse and tulip per halfway dressed Cassidy has his face pressed to the whole. He's punched. Jesse? I'm sorry. We should've ditched the truck. Why would they be after you? You didn't tell them I went straight to the bouncy bounce. Who are you? Cassidy your girl saved me. I was in paces. Jesse custer? We have the building surrounded come out with your hands held high. Just a custard way thereafter. You your, the preacher something happened this morning. I'm not sure what? Killed a church full. Killed a church full of people, what are says. Jessie. Are you? Okay. I don't know. There's something in me. I can feel it. I shouldn't have called you, what are you talking about a beat? Right. I'm gonna have to run for it especial needs in all. No one's running the right. Come after me. I'm dangerous Jesse. Kisses, kisses, tulip, then heads for the door. Exterior roadside motel night. Jesse exits with his hands held high squint in the helicopter spotlight keeps walking as body armored agents surround him. He drops to his knees, then lies on the ground. They cuff him, then pull him up to his feet. Jesse looks back at the door to one of six where tulip watches with disbelief agents grab her pushing her to the ground. She's not part of this. No one's listening. He backs against the men holding him fights to get another look at tulip. They keep dragging him away. Jesse's eyes glow red. Let her go. Sorry. Walmart's, let, call is voice, thunders, the same soul. Chilling quality. We heard at the church. But this time there's more control without any conscious decision. The agents holding tool of back away from her. She stands the wilder dry. Each and every law man drops his weapon, no debate notice, Gushin's, a rifle falls from the helicopter sheriff root causes pistol out of the holster throwing it on the ground. He has no idea why the fucker we doing shoot him shoot him. But they can't they see their guns lying on the ground and are powerless to pick them up in the car are faces fascinated Cassidy steps out of room one. Oh, seven fuck tackle, and nobody move. And just like that, even the idea of moving against Jesse is impossible tool of makes her way to Jesse. Everyone clears a path Jesse gestures with his cuffs tulip takes the keys off agent who puts up no resistance tulip on locks jesse's cuffs he won't face. Her won't look in the eyes. Jesse through gritted teeth. It's not me. There's something else, it's. He suppresses a scream as shard of swirling, light erupts through his back. He fights to keep something inside of him contained suddenly a blast of bright, light. Radiates from Jesse everyone shields, there is as it flares. Then suddenly dims this time. No one is burned except Cassidy the hand he shielded himself with is now a flame. He beats it against his body, wrapping it in his jacket this snuff it out as us Jesse collapses against tulip his eyes, are normal, but all the strength has left him. We have to go. Okay. Okay. She half carries him to the truck. Cassidy come on. Cassidy reluctantly joins them help slow Jesse in the passenger seat. But then he shuts the door. He's staying behind. Don't think it's safe to be near him given my conditioned. He holds up his scorched hand as proof. What are you going to Albee? Isis go four. These is figure out who's the bandit. She starts the truck with a nod. She backs up and pulls out of the parking lot Cassidy waves away the dust and immediately regrets. Not getting in the truck. Fuck interior truck night, as she drives tulip recipe hand on jesse's face. He's asleep, or unconscious. Exterior hotel night, Cassidy checks, stockwell's watch the FBI field director isn't happy about this, but can really put up any resistance Bryce, what time is sewn rise around here. Six thirty seven points. For accuracy, there Cassidy keeps walking trying to decide which vehicle to take the various cops sheriffs in FBI agents aren't quite mannequins, but seem incapable of taking any action, the helicopter is still hovering overhead. A strong wind suddenly picks up scattering trash across the parking lot, a dust devil swirls near the building lights flicker into pop close on stock, well, his breath now visible in the night air. The temperature suddenly dropped thirty degrees. A dark shape steps out of the shower, shadows, a gunfighter in a beaten duster. He wears to gun belts each with a Walker Colt revolver. If jesse's internal cowboy is the prototypical western hero. This is the mirror image, the Saint of killers. Cassidy drops down behind the ship behind sheriff roots cruiser genuinely freaked out. He's seen the Saint before as some idea of what's coming. In the cruiser ours. Face tries to get a better look at the Saint Cassidy his office face down down, ours face hunker down lower. What am I going for here? That's the William money, one you wanna be Clint Eastwood from unforgiven forgiven. Your teeth like coming to give it a go. Where is it worse? Genesis a sea of empty faces. If you're talking about the preacher he headed west with girl. They're all yours reconcile with. No haste the scene of Keller draws bolt revolvers takes aim and fires killing every man he sees on his fourth shot. We move into extreme slow motion, tracking one of his bullets as it leaves the barrel. It is composed of nothing but smoke and flame distinct screams cries swirl within it. The bullet hit Stockwell as it passes through his chest. It unmake him flesh and bone dissolving into basic elements back to real time. The Saint keeps firing. He never has to reload. Without even looking he fires up into the helicopter a beat later. The bird drops out of the sky. It lands on two vehicles. Erupting inflame. Sheriff roots stares down the bullet the blows his head apart doll. Doll Cassidy hushes him cheap. Some hidden with just a few more shots. The Saint has killed every man in sight, he holsters his gun starts walking west as a wind picks up the gunslinger, disappears into dust. The night is quiet, except for the crackling flames of the fallen helicopter are face stumbles out of the SUV, crouches over the headless body of his father, Cassidy surveys. The wreckage ours, face seems to be the only other person left alive. Sorry about your daughter. You can drive right. Ours face nods. We gotta find tool up in the preacher before he does. Close on Cassidy. 'cause that there was the Saint of killers which means whatever the preachers got in. It's worse. Out. Awesome. It's really, really good. I'm like. A little girl. Yeah, I cannot wait a whole week to come back and do more. This is awesome. Like a true guest star, all of my voices has died in and out. Arkansas. That's fine. You know you gotta come back and finish the scripts though. Yeah. Yeah. You got to be the Santa killer. No, I'm down with that. I'm gonna watch a lot of good just bring a bring it to route and stick it in your mouth. I don't know if Jonah August would be down with me saying this, but you guys should also watch the show. Okay. So visited the set of the show and the state of killers after they cut a scene, he walked off the set directly at me, not in character. Just the actor Graham mctavish walking toward me. And he looked like he was coming to murder me awesome. He looked so fucking scary. Holy shit. Just walking around. You look like you're ready to murder. And he's like he's British. Catering. A bunch of murder some talk owners crafty. So, yeah, the show's really great and I don't know John ARGUS here might be a little heaved at the show because his movie isn't happening for sure now because the yeah but. We'll do our parts to bring this shit to life. I'm doing my best. I'm trying. It's hard when there's one right after the other I'm not trying hard enough to do that yet. So. Yeah. On trying to remember exactly to like he is good training or is that on? Now, when I read the comics every time Cassidy said Jay's us J us spell, just like that. I was like, I don't know if that's racist. Or but then I found out that. Garth Ennis's Irish. So fair game jas us, if you want to spell it as us than more power to you sunny, both actually writing true to rise. This. Here's the other thing creature is the quintessential American story. It's about a Texan preacher on the search for God whose imaginary guiding light is a cowboy John Wayne, here, the most American thing written by an Irish guy and the show has the preacher played by British guy. Tulip played by an Irish girl. The Irish vampire played by Scottish actor. The Saint of killers cowboy guy played by British man here's like not an American onset. There's no truth in this art. Who needs it? And it's amazing. So sold me certain, I'm gonna pop for sure. Yeah. The script is amazing. The show is amazing. The comic is amazing top to bottom amazingness. I don't know how we lucked into this. I'm I'm delighted I mean, I figured for sure a preacher script that didn't get may Kelly's going to hear this and be so mad. You know what? That's what she gets for working. Oh, how fun wherever you're at dressed up in sexy outfits. No, no. She's travelling for work. Oh, like real work. Yeah. Oh ping. Or in addition to being a world, traveling Larbre and cause player and a model. She has like a real grownup job in corporate America so much more of an adult than I am. She really is. She's a more of an adult in all of us. I don't know about you. Are you in? I'm going to count out for sure. He's an accountant of fun. Co pop toys. Right. Just keep counting the same seventy-one fiancee's getting fishes for the money's coming from I limited myself to one Batman, one Mo-jo that are were gifts. I didn't even pay all see. God amongst mortals, and these little Batman ones that came with my Batman, the animated series box set Moore's. Jeff. I'm a terrible account. There's, there's a lot at least one hundred at minimum. No, I can see, like I said, I had to limit myself, it's because every time I go to a store, and I see how awesome they all look and they're not expensive. I'm like, I could easily drown in these, it'd be a lot easier. If they weren't, like obscure ones if it was all just like Batman, Star Wars and stuff, but, like I walked in, and I found like a Jack Burton one from big trouble in little China. Of course. How y'all are you Jack Burton from big trouble in little China is obscure come on guy is actually extremely young tells turned thirty in July. He's always been youngest of our, our our crew. So lot of Nick at night. Fair. See what I want. Some Dirk gently ones not making them canceled after two seasons bite of being awesome. But that's not what this is about. So Jeff over here. He's, he's got nothing for you. He's got that podcast that he doesn't do anymore, but he might start doing again. So look up casual fills. Is it on? I tunes. Assumes it is on Stitcher. It's on student Stitcher is still there. I pretty sure kind of maybe go guys guys. Hey, there's a Facebook page. So that's still exist in the movie classics from twenty eighteen this is the spot. Hey you you listening right now? I want you to listen to the sound of my voice, I want you to just go Google casual filth. Goget Stitcher at I tunes it look for it everywhere. And when you find it, listen to it. This has been Delilah. Don't forget to check out Josh on Joshu Jay Baker dot com. Got it perfectly checkouts it right there. Check out his silver work. You voice over work. And if you want to connect with me. Just shoot me name on my website. I'm also started videography as well. Yeah he has a camera don't trust him with it, though. He uses an Android phone. So he's probably got the shittiest camera. He just seems to have real bad taste in tech. Am I not helping you? Well, you know, there's always that contingent that will do the exact opposite of whatever you say. So I mean especially if they know me that's true. Hi. Terrible. Vice way, more helpful than I thought it'd be I met, I met Sean on read it, and he was like, hey, do you wanna come over my house, and read some shitty script by William Goldsmith Goldman Goldman lame? Goldman where where where is one of the greatest screenwriters of all time talks about how sexy this five year old is now. I did. No. I did not know that in advance fair share. Jeez us. Guys, follow us like us, you can find us on Twitter and Instagram at the table. Reads table, reads, podcast dot com. If you go there, and it's all fucked up. It's because we're going we're having it redone, you know what it's going to be redone in a week, and this isn't going air for eight weeks. So forget, I said, I gotta take where he's podcast com. It's, it's newish solid brand new brand new branding. Yes. Tell your friends about us like subscribe and leave her view that says that we're great. And don't review says anything else because if you do your shit hole. Gassed was created by Sean MC. 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"Yeah Okay and that's what I'm GONNA do all set up into this drag us when we can talk about some things and then we'll come to this yet ready. Welcome to be rather unusual episode of job car and has no idea unusual as it is it is. I didn't know how you would. You like to paint a picture of the recording studio. Seen A STATE. Where are we going? We all at the kitchen table. Which is strewn with him schooling Teaching AIDS and our children rather than have been just been dropped at school by Giles. Creating the great irony. This thing about this podcast is. I'm just back from the school run but luckily my wife Esther Walker has been reading the papers to give me some ideas but of course there is no schoolroom and I have not read the papers for a week. My children are upstairs. You whether the virus thing in the papers that I had that hassle fuck me. What are the kids dipping? Did you in your news stuff as drive to school and it was shocked. And you're reading the gates so this is necessarily a bit different. Because he's not here. Well what is not here in front of us? Microfinance in O'hare what we've got is a MAC book propped up between us. And we're crossing fingers that we've got the microphone turned. We don't actually where the microphone is. We think it's here but it could be it could be that but How much more do we have to record insert? Here's Mum I'm studying right. That was Lucy's kids could be okay tuna anyway. I'll get dropped alternates. They've reverted to sort of four year old taxes off the two days of home schooling. They're watching seabees. We've got to provide to you. Still got to rush. Call them and it's been it's been increasingly difficult. Hasn't it to find something to write about because there is any one item on the knees agenda and it's an looking on the bright side column has seven different wage. Everyone else's done it. I mean if you if you anything I well. I've only I can only prompt. You Olis' suggestions that you've already told me I'm one of them. Was Of course the very sad death all. Oh Yeah Mr Medina's first name Umberto. It is birth to echo. I write these cartoons much less. Elber Out. Bet I'll bet you deserve. But with his death on crazy asterix with his death by now finding out how to pronounce a sudden. Well there's some people who say that so it's not that I know a little bit about strikes or even everything. You've got this cough. You'll be hearing it. She hasn't called. The Corona virus regular listeners will know that cough Salva 'cause he's family came from Italy originally but he's a Frenchman who rented wrote the Asterix Books Between Nineteen fifty nine nine hundred seventy seven whenever any Cassini died new just carried on and you vice about it because he does died find later at the age of ninety two million years ninety million corona virus. His family were keen to point out with He. In fact he'd been feeling tired longtime ties for a few weeks. Ovalles like you could go. You can go and we're going to say well. Why WOULD YOU ASTERIX? I was just going to point out. The you know as much about Asterix that you will nest. There'd be mastermind my chosen specialized subject the books. Goscinny in zone. One thousand nine hundred nine to it. In fact I did the present day including the ones that didn't right and I got twenty two points all correct and no passes and he and nobody's beat me interesting new interesting point person whose kids eat selling doing. Of course you can't possibly come down is fire up. Says we'll see what you need. Is it down crying? Help me help me with doing okay. Do you want to come down to change the Netflix? Scooby Doo say the person who they declared. Oh the widow Kayla celebrity mastermind reports or correction no passes then there was some light javelin throw and then there was some popular nothing. And then Samir. Ahmed got like seventeen points. During during the Laura Ingalls Wilder who she liked me she come for justice and kids books then in the general knowledge with the Autism Mirror. Armitt beating the general knowledge round was a total total fits up and she got an extra half a minute and was four more questions. I was cheated robbed by people at the BBC. Wanting to screw me off. Sort of domestic line to give it to some there. Ahmed I think he was thrown. Humphries is a news. Read it and she read it some sort of union thing anyway. I Love Ashtrays. I read after all my life and I think I can probably manage a thousand words on asterix aches to death to do too. So why. Why de the funniest books have written funnier than Woodhouse? Funnier than who else is supposed to be? Funny may finally may be funny. Lease has some set move prize for being funny. Yeah he show yet fell short stories. It's Fakih more superstar but we'll find one of those s to Google's it things and then goes eventually push actually make transactions by anti-belo Derek. Courage particularity Belva late anthea bell find times readers will know she's actually the mother of Cam of Communist and I basically I wrote a piece about aspects for the Oldie six months ago and I'm thinking I can just take out of my hard drive all. Could you be purpose a piece of Asterix to be current to say about about being plucky in isolation one small village to hold out the Roman invaders so the premise of Asterix in fifty five BC? When students he's a concrete goal laid his feet vercingetorix out on my feet. That's the first job in the first book. You love story funny in this camp surrounded by the four Roman cancer of querying Totta rum delirium and laudanum. That's correct haven't got the books here for this country isolated. They're rural anyway. An actually the whole village has to survive compete for the rest of the world so I could do the column what we learn about isolation from Asterix Asterix exactly number one have plenty of ripe to tie up your resident noisy singer. Yes unhygienic will have to be immediately thrown out one hundred and sufficient Manga. We need a fishmonger related to about fishmonger if this doesn't work that's quite an hygiene exa fishmonger disassembly like a column fully automatics. Very good if we need more ventilators building the ventilators. That's quite good. And James dyson invented a knee ventilate. He's having it rushed through some kind of get a column written by someone who ghost wrote James Auto broker. Few knows everything about me okay. Let's keep building this new virus actress Corona after the Corona Virus Corona virus. Being the name of the the new story alrighty does an extra story yes why not because the Romans called US going? Corona virus is really close leaders of Asterix. Well no that's in Asterix and the chariot race written not by Koskinen by these young to new young writers and artists who were hired to write it after they died. Da Something and then all very good but there's a terrorist attacks. A character called Corona virus from from an african-american Twenty varsity generic has so much meaning. Now so you can have guys. Let's go go. Go as corona virus lies like this season guys. Julius Caesar could have. Did you not know that? But is it just an unnamed like Ben but they didn't have Jewish names? It's just like Moise Mixim rate show yesterday. Just an alternate just like storms e except. It's a bit more fucking Roman so you have these because I reckon asks readers. Sorry I Reckon Times. Do you want to read you know enough to do that? And then we all know that. The the GAULISH names and eggs. Yeah so you need to have what are the what are the things around what ventilate ix takes. What what are the? What's the hand? Picks no book Relics Laboratory Roller. One of the things in anyway. Look that's the basic principle. One of the things you have to have. Ester is magic potion you did as it's known in this house wine whisky so the whole point is you. In fact. That's the Pale for the communists you can't you. Can't you do it all but it doesn't work without the magic potion which is booze and you also have to have your wild poor delivered Overrun the mentors. Beliefs is the men here but they got. They got their own ball. So that kind of self sufficient in that. But it's on hygiene. Ix you can't go to. She's in Congress UNIX official Manga deliveries chief statistics initiatives chief justice. And He. He's he has carried around by issue. Barrichello Bears Baikonur. Have Social Distance. Social distancing yeah and the work so it was talking. Abou it's it's fifty five BC in a little village on the Oregon coast. I wonder what the plot is going to be put. Presumably it's going to be someone went out and came back with without washing their hands or something And they're trying to track down who we taste. Who went out and came out with that wishing that has and is that old. One was was geriatrics geriatric. 'cause he's the most at risk isn't exactly exactly and has your St Wa. How do we necessarily want to lose it? I have Right Asterix books. And he's he's the wife and no one knows her name. It's a big thing with feminists. Because no one Gerry whose name. Otherwise no one wants to be licensed geriatrics geriatric and geriatrics randy old with no job. Who's obsessed with food? She we have a thing where the where the Roman soldiers are trying to get the trying to get the the rooms because to disperse. But they can't because they can't because they're cooking studios trumpers so they should be dates. Re trump trying to. Yeah Yeah. That's a good one. He's like no everything's fine. It's fine if everything's all fine. Everything's fine. I should `isolation X. Isolationist grumpy one going get inside on other everywhere face get inside because there are lots of play small because this who you had plastic or anything the the the the the promises. The snakes have to be things that are so they have to. They have to be so so elite geriatrics loose awake. So I'm just wondering Mike Hancock's Hang Kicks Inc Hank Bork's Johnson Stories borax. Boric says the British leader. That's fine trump is the trump is so hang on his BOREX is a goal right and trump is a is a roman. That's fine that works dials fix. Surely this. This is my scene. Yes you're quite right. Get it fixed it to the vaccine. Let's get some credit. Should I write this call into producer? Lucy? Who from her `isolation where she is with family on the other side of the computer suggested the. Fix The fix the the Druid the key figure. He's got a mafia post. Say Get a fix as the world and in the end they even the Romans have it or something the Ramos. Do you want to change the program? I offer the scary. Because Katie Markan listen. I've only got two ideas. I'm afraid that both they're both mind. That both about homes gooding. Because that's basically what I could do. You could do to my husband. Yes okay. So they're home. Schooling is has been very difficult and people are a lot of people deciding to cleave to the idea that you should we home school them at all? You should think about some people were just do well. There are a couple of things doing the rounds. Some experts some toasts doing around saying don't to high school in a sitdown Orlando Times tables kind of white. Because you'll children that won't allow not from you. It's very difficult for parents to teach their children. That kind of thing would tickly Cuba. That as my seventy eight nine sixty three seventy four hundred ninety six two all numbers from the nine times staple but then another one which is seventy two out of San. Yes well Sam's Max now better than mine. So so it's it's it's complicated anyway. So those are the most recent one which I really like is from a New Zealand Child development expert could Nathan Dee Wallace. And He's worth listening to if only because his narcan with his New Zealand accent is so strong it would he's bid is all county out of being the bays. Eso he saying homeschooling as especially if you under eight years old. I'm kitties nine but as I'm taking that as being on the eight a month of school or feels like it's can no longer than that anyways amounts of school isn't GonNa do them any harm and he is saying What she should do teach them lock skills can they can. They can make their bid. No can I get their breakfast What that is all South African Fist anyway. I think that all anyway. So He's giving these wonderful parents online parenting off and he said they should. We should teach them life skills yet. Minute that's a column is ready to actually say is close. The tree is saying so I wondered if there were things you wish you had learned aged seven that would be useful now and then a vision amusing vision popped into my head over seven year old during his tax return. Learning has their tax return leading to change a tire things that you didn't learn until later that would have been helpful to learn new things I can do. Now Changing Changing Utah famously. All the two things I'm able to do yes because he's not making your bed and you would like to get into this has done. I'm going to do my tax. Get INTO SAM. Wants to be a messer anyway and likes massaging you know. He wants to be a cricketer. What's what's his free things he wants to be. An astronaut or cricketer or a masters one of the three and I'm saying massage chance of achieving should wait a minute it's flu. No He's Nathan. Dee Wallace Wallace is A. He's basically a pulp neuro science educator expert on parenting so more of the person under saying no he's just said teach life skills not curriculum. I think just a curriculum yet and thing to teach your kids now. The school day isn't anything center. It's funny all of them just genuinely. I wish to prevent Indignant it's pretty could be the things that would be useful to me. It could be it could be. You could teach them to Soltau the Internet telly. Internet. What are the? What are the Internet? Cook my dinner things that when we come out to. This will be really if they know how to do. And he's saying up to this sort of age because a- curriculum development to even open a bottle of wine. Yeah other things abused kids could do. Yeah and not spilling lead themselves that they will cut the president unable to even sit next to gloss water without without this because we have lunch outdoors on the patio. ESTIMATES CUCUMBER SANDWICHES. Because this is not what we eat and glass of water and yesterday and then. Katie cried out. 'cause she spilt our whole on necessarily large not support. Amnesty Donald Soggy so estimate a whole new round newell to and then just he's against it again and now we're we're trying to hold our homeless. I mean I stockpiled full as as an all happened is it. Kit pulled wardrobe other things. It'll be useful when we come out of this useful that your kids can do drive. Their internals cut their own toenails. Then cut my toenails in fact this massive logistical of light fifty things. I don't have to write a column possibly because I actually say you could do a timetable. Eight thirty am toenail cutting treat your children to do their toenails in the think. Then do iota. Nine o'clock driving won't get the police in the road anymore. Because there's no one on the right now is the time now is the time to teach kids to joy. That's good. He can reach the pedals in Indiana Jones and the a temple of Doom Shaw Round drives a call with Dr strapped to his face. One on stocks children's feet. Yeah absolutely teach them to write columns. Yes so I say that. There are many people who say below the nine. My fucking non-euro could've funded this. Why you will never grow up. Fuck you his kitties. Call them arrested time. You'll be my nine year old. Who was so if kids could do. I want a message definitely peachy things. I need chip osteopathic like that shrink O'hare to really want to tell my kids but why not see if my children could do analytically. Union and letting psychology osteopathy sports massage. Make T- open wine dry the car and right columns days xactly yes how to make the current virus. Look for you yes brilliant. I mean it already is a process face it well. I mean I was a little bit depressed about this morning but then you add up I I was better than you realize how nice it was to be shack up. Lucky husband is opposed to some terrible shied. Hawk including listen to get all of that but I was sliding married to J. Rain. We nearly finished some that. We can help you. I was looking forward to what you want about backing the kitchen S. You'll be so glad to have me back because because I'll be able to help her improve her efficiency and assistance and mine is on Michael Kitchen. I think I pay in the wall with a booklet to hang up your fucking rubber gloves and for ten years drake just doing the washing up. Catholic Catholic just putting some things away just washing pots and pans not pushing the dishwasher. Not just putting the PAM boiled egg into the dishwasher brought been back in the You throw me off my so. I put that peg in the ball and said you could hang up there but let's turn off all this morning and last night. I woke up as I go along. Fucking hate you. Who CAME UP TO BOSTON? Shit that was asked me no. You didn't fucking sandwich there. Three months of this second kids. 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11 Trivia Questions on Parks and Rec
"Grab yourself a big old soda from Panch Burger and set up the CONESA done. Shyer because I've got eleven questions for you and all your friends from Pony and parks and recreation remember. It's all about the cones. This is trivia would buds what it be a welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thanks for checking out my show. If you are brand new to the show you can hit subscribe so you never miss an episode and there are eight hundred go back and listen to if you want binge something on this crazy worldwide quarantine. I keep myself busy with live streams every single night and speaking of parks and REC. Which is the topic for? Today I had a great great Livestream last night and invited my friend. Shimo hair onto the call. Who Played Jerry on the show? Jerry Berry Terry Gary Larry and if you WANNA go watch that on my youtube channel YouTube dot com slash trivia with buds. It's one of my newest videos and you can watch a nice little fun. Five Minute interview with me Jim O'hare talking about some of his favorite moments from the show some of his favorite guest stars and some little known secrets to the filming of the show. So go check that out if you like parks and REC. We've got eleven questions for you on the show today. We're GONNA jump into those eleven questions right now. Here we go all right guys parks and REC Trivia. Here comes question number one. What is Jerry's last name on the show question number one? What is Jerry's last name on the show? Question Number One question number two besides councilman. What is Jeremy Jams? Profession question number two besides councilman. What is Jeremy Jams? Profession number? Two question number three. How many ounces is the child size soda? Offered at Paunch Burger is at sixty four ounces. One hundred twenty eight ounces or five hundred. Twelve ounces number three. How big is the child size soda from Panch Burger Sixty four one thousand eight or five hundred? Twelve ounces question number four mouse rat. Pack a song about Little Sebastian. That parodies and Elton John Song title. What is that song title? We're looking for the one from the show. What IS THE MOUSE RAT? Song Title Number. Four mouse route has a song called little about Little Sebastian. That parodies and Elton John Song title. What is it called question number five? What is the name of the giant Candy Corporation in Ponti? What is the name of the Candy Corporation in Panni number five question number six? What is John Ralph? Izzo sister's name. What is John Ralph? Ios sister's name number six number six for parks and REC Trivia. What is John Ralph? Ios sister's name number six question number seven. What is the name of Tom's clothing? Rental store number seven. What is the name of Tom's clothing? Rental store number seven number eight. An hosts say Halloween party. What doll is. She dressed at for her costume number. Eight win and hosts a Halloween party. What dial is she dressed up as question number nine? What were does Chris? Love to say to embellish how excited he gets. What is Chris's favourite word number nine parks and REC number? Ten at a point in the series. Leslie data cop played by what comedian? What comedian plays a cop on the series and for two points? How many total episodes were there of parks and REC? What was the total episode count for Parks and Recreation? Those are all eleven questions about your friends from Ponti Indiana. We'll be right back in just a second with the parks and REC answers. We are back with the answers to parks and REC Trivia. Let's see how you did on this. Generally kind of easy around if you watch quite a bit of the shelf. You've seen it more than once. He probably knew most of these number one. What is Jerry's last name on the show? The answer there is Gerbrich Jerry. Bergische again played by Jim O'hare. Go check out my interview with Jim. At Trivia with buds on Youtube number two besides councilman. What is Jeremy Jams? Job in Ponti. He is an orthodontist. That is his profession. Orthodontist number three. How many ounces is the child size soda? Paunch Burger offer sixty four one. Twenty eight or five hundred twelve ounces. It is the latter five hundred twelve ounces enough to a the weight of a liquefied child I think they say because it's a child size number four mouse rat has a song about Li'l Sebastian. That parodies and Elton John Song title. What is their song called? Five thousand candles the wind so instead of just a candle in the wind. It's five thousand candles in the win number five. What's the name of the giant Candy Corporation in Ponti? That is Sweden's number five Sweden's number six. What is John Ralphie sister's name? Mona Lisa Sapper Stein number six Mona Lisa number seven. What's the name of Tom's clothing? Rental store rent swag which I think is a great idea for a store. I would go rent stuff like that if they were a round number eight. An hosts a Halloween party dollars. She dressed at raggedy Ann. That makes sense right. That's her name number nine. What were does Chris? Love to say to embellish how excited he gets literally literally number nine literally and number ten at a point in the series Leslie Dates. A COP played by WHAT COMEDIAN? Louis C. K. Louis C. K. And Bonus for two points. How many total episodes were there of the show? One hundred and twenty five one twenty five so there. You have it guys. Eleven questions. Eleven answers parks and REC. If you want some fun facts about me in parks and REC. I got to be on the episode. Where Ben and Leslie get married to two part episodes if you WANNA go watch that on Netflix? Look for me in the scene where Leslie is addressing. All of her friends on stage. Think it's right at the be the right at the end of the first part The first episode so the First Half Hour. She's on stage thanking everyone for coming and stuff like that and I think they decide to have their wedding so it's right before that or right after that and she's on stage and they cut to the crowd on the dance floor and it's the entire cast and me and there's not too many other people around that you can see their faces so you could probably see me pretty easily in there and It's pretty cool. Jim Actually got the entire cast to sign that picture for me so I freeze framed. It tended to him and I have a framed. Signed picture from the entire cast of me all of them on this show so it was very cool and. I'm very fortunate that I've got to do that when I moved to. I think it was two thousand thirteen or so so little fun fact about me and the show if you guys want more parks and REC Trivia. I just did a live stream. The other night it is available on my facebook page FACEBOOK DOT COM SLASH. Ryan buds to our show five different parks and REC rounds other than the questions. You just answered for today's episode so go check that out if you want some more Ponti Action. Thank you guys for listening. We have one more question for. It's a question of the day and it is. What is Bruce? Wayne's Dad's name Tweet me your answer at Ryan buds or email Ryan buds gmail.com to be eligible for prize. Yesterday's question of the day answer was a key for the last edible item in Pacman. That's not a fruit and your trivia team name of the day is paw knee to the Gut Pau knee to the gut. Thank you guys for listening. Thanks for watching on Youtube. Thanks for telling. And we'll tomorrow for MORE TRIVIA WITH BUDS cheers burn.
Return to Murder House s8e6
"This episode of disturbed the American Horror Story podcast is brought to you by tweaked audio to get awesome headphones go to tweet dot co dot com and use the coupon code southgate to get thirty percent off free shipping and a lifetime warranty warranty or you can get through on our website southgate media group Dot com to disturb tonight robin. I are talking season eight episode six no return to murder house. I was doing it with you. Guys on sorry our the timing should be much better than that but I apologize so we've been talking a lot about <hes> what is GonNa happen where crossovers are going to be at honestly this a little bit of a spoiler because they talked to return number house. They got at the end of six five or episode five but this is the mother payoff of mother payoffs of American story it really is and inland as I loved episode five and I said this is <music> high water mark. This is the high water mark. Don't want this to happen all the time. I don't WanNa have a bunch of like let's go recap wrapping up storylines from the first season in a really great way it gave us new information mation. It was bizarre <hes> the two twins that look like they were just like clowns with their heads on fire. What the hell was that yeah? That's that's that's that's their eatery because because it's it's nuts but it was great we revisit a ton of old characters. Yeah we revisit. We get to see Jessica Lang we get to see I didn't know she was in. I was so so excited I mean we get to see all this stuff. Connie Britton comes back. It's it's absolutely fantastic well the scene when it showed Ben and tate early on and they're sitting there having their <hes> their counseling yeah yeah it was so out of that first season that I thought it was just footage from the first season and then when the two of them walked in Benintendi turned women they're like what are you doing here. My I was like Whoa whoa right well. Evan Peters heaters look pretty good victor. Dylan McDermott looked old. It's been we but he still look good. You it was it was great not so old that I wasn't fooled. No I was to at least I was allowing myself to be fooled. I really really enjoyed that will not saving not being able to compare it to what it was but it was great but I gotta go okay so the first before they even get into the house. Basically what it is is behold and a madison need. They're going to buy the murder house. They can go in there be undisturbed. They play a couple who has married trying to buy the house. The real estate agent looks at them like they're nuts now because it's a mixed week company or couple and behold is very obviously gay but that they wanna live there because of all the murders and that's like. I can't believe we're doing this. They're never gonNA bite us. Behold comet. I had to put on Khakis today. WHO's having a rough who's having a rough or something like that and he's having a horrible daily goes because I had to put on Khakis? It's been a bad day for all of us right the other thing he said I kept writing quotes down from. We're the worst version of Heidi Cloonan seal yes. Oh my God there was the they they started out firing in Old School American horror story weight and kept it going for what an hour and fifteen minutes overtime it was great. It was a long one on edit it it was great and then you have these two characters that are killing me walking around in the middle of all of it right I thirty six people have died there. They said yes the <hes> this was another funny line when they were talking about buying the place like I thirty six people died. They're Kinda surprised and he goes the wife's looking for a farmhouse kitchen. Yes and then he looks over at Ernie goes. Don't worry we'll burn some sage. Yes Oh oh my God. What did she say or she goes? I can't wait to have lots of kids here and he'll look at his face was priceless. He's like what he's like yeah yeah and then what he was trying to work his magic to get in the door and he's like Oh so you're an obstacle in the house. Yes yeah just use the key it was. I mean everything happening in there was just just great. I want to say again though this is where I. Accused and it was I. It's fully on me. Also them like wait. Did they leave the the scenes wise. Why isn't everything destroyed and then I realized no? This is still like three episodes in a row that we've been in a flashback. We're not seeing anything that's happening. Current time though which we will soon I think yeah well it's on the cusp of but that's why I got confused as to be one more episode where they kind of figure out how they're going to defeat landed or how they're gonNA approach it and then they'll just skip to the end where they're going to do whatever they have to do yeah yeah they immediately sent thousands evil <hes>. They're both walking around like oh boy. There's something really really wrong. I'm here say something bad Juju or bad yeah car. He behold is all nutty even said like his magic has been office. I walked in the air and all sorts of things and he's like there's messed up people here it to try to see the ghosts and everything like we're gonNA. We're GONNA push the sing along and right away the way they know that it worked we see that nurse Ghost walk by which reminded me remember the two nurses in Roanoke and I was like they're not doing a throwback to that but it was only one nurse and they didn't play that that would have been great throwback Denis O'hare showed up and yes it would have been a throwback to run a mill Denis O'hare. That is the big disappointment here <hes> the twin clown kids on fire. What the serious how true what we're GonNa go to spoiler that? I don't know if you caught later. We'll talk about at the end 'cause it's near the end that it comes in but we'll talk about. I look forward to it. It was after this that we saw Ben Tate having their conversation had bent says that like they reveal their like basically this is our hell and we have to say we can't leave here and he goes yeah I have to go stay stare out the window and and Masturbate and cry and then she's like Oh the tear jerker Oh my God that was the most hilarious thing they're supposed to be having the session. It tastes like you need help you with. Is your daughter man. I love her and it's like what are you talking about right. You only see where violence Kinda like walking around you know staring off at misguided. It's very weird. We'll talk about that later. 'cause they. Wrap it up pretty nicely. Actually I thought she looks exactly like she did then like the other ones yet you can see the age some even tate. She looks like she's fifteen. It's the weirdest thing the ball all Kim bouncing down. That was really cool. I was waiting for more to happen but that was cool so yes so they walk around the house. This Red Ball bounces down the steps in between goes in the middle of the floor of course Madison goes to pick it up and gets attack by rocky and then and then they get stopped by Billy Dean Howard and she's like. I'm the only thing that's alive here yes I. which was that was great? I loved her showing up Bob. I loved that I loved that they're taking all the characters that these people been playing and you're you're watching when you're buying it. She's she's Billy Dean right here she he could be standing right next to one of our other characters go yeah of course it shows how good the acting has been with each of these characters help fleshed out. These characters are as soon as I saw a new it was right. We'll see it's constance right. It's not a constant necrophilia cornelia it was it was just great and then pay off time constant. I didn't know right neither did I. I know there were rumors. Where's that she was going to be back this season? We talked about one of earlier episodes. I kind of forgot so even in murder house. I wasn't thinking constance is GonNa show up but holy crap at boy. Did she have a great episode. We'll so billy dean it was a leading Howard comes in is talking to them. She's like what are you doing here. We bought this house. It's our house and it cuts the stairs. You see her shadow. You see her walk down <unk> though darling this by house in its constance not since it was great and then Morazan she's a third their interaction is fantastic. Oh my favorite three them is unbelievable. Well and it's still there still that you know all that anger is still sitting right on the surface and it just made everything makes sense in this episode you know well they and they played off of it. I love it how during the episode they talk about having to be stuck there and the reasons that they're stuck there and I don't know if it's necessarily. Surly hell for them because they're dead because I don't think their life at the end was very good and even some of them are actually pretty enjoying doing what they're doing. I think I think it is eternal. Hell I started yeah. They're stuck there in their haunting the house obviously but he'll constants doesn't seem to really mind being there. No I mean he just doesn't want more there right. It didn't seem that tate really minded it at the end either all right but yeah you know I don't really mind necessarily other than I do think Moro was very pleased to get out they found Morris bones which was crazy digging up all these bones and it they're like Nope nope center while they come up with her wasn't a great that she's just sitting there. Smoking a cigarette and behold is doing all the work he's just like hich whatever bubba right because it no US different vibe for Veselin Yeah but but at the end when they did you notice that the end when they vary Mora in the grave that they didn't civil the dirt back in she just Kinda magic it back so why didn't they magic it maybe she maybe maybe hold didn't have the ability to do that and when it was her turn to the shoveling just like you know she did she she been witched did they were going back and forth about you know that it didn't dust very well and she's just all over. What is this it's discussed? It was like yeah it's like right out of Bobby. Dearest I was like Omega and and that was constance one thing she would talk about Langdon if they got more out of there so that's why they did that and it it gave closure. It made sense and I love that she when she her bones were buried. All all of a sudden mom shows up and she has closure with their mom. She's like I killed you and the MOM's like I'm so thankful you did. It was a horrible distance. What that was really great? It was very touching and very it was it was a nice ending to that. There are a lot a nice endings in this this show yeah because y'all in later on Connie Britton shows up and you're like Oh my God because I didn't. I couldn't believe she was going to be there either and she did the cameo and then earn don't McDermott kind of get back together. Constant constant kinda comes the peace with everything that she's done although she's crazy and evil to she's kind of in a good place tate in April get into its April right violent now violet by April rotate violent kind getting a good place and then they kind of explain old deal about Langdon which is really Kinda cool so yeah one interesting thing is when when constance was talking about Langdon she called. I'm the angel of Light. She said as a baby he was angel of Light. You know in the in the Bible that's how they refer to say so when they when she said that I was like you're telling us. He's the double right well. It's pretty evident two minutes later. After she has the story I mean he is. He starts like pulling in the crib pulling the wings off a flies and then goes to killing rodents that goes killing dogs and cats then goes on to people it clearly states she goes. I thought he was just I could tell what side of the tree was going up. He's going to be a serial killer will then and then she's like Whoa and then it got worse and yeah I think she visibly Kinda got scared at that point time like you when she walked in giant right he from being a little kid to being that big footed die that is now right will at her line about it was great she does he aged ten years overnight. It was almost like he was in a hurry yeah for whatever reason so. I don't know the time period between this and the end of the world. I don't know what the timeframe has. It doesn't want that far right. Maybe it's a little bit but maybe not that far might only be a couple of years backs asks right. I'm telling you it is not too far away from where we are right now in this because I don't think the witches would have sat on all this stuff with him during all this time if it wasn't that close well the concerts were sent back to find what happened so I don't know what the timeframe of it is but it it appears like it's really close. We also got the backstory unconscious. We now know how she died. Yes so she killed herself to get away from this monster who <hes> and I didn't. She is happy she has. She said she has her kids other than Abbey there because abby date outside of the house right. <hes> but <hes> yeah remember the car and she wouldn't let her into the House to die because she knew she'd be trapped there right so she dragged her back out. <hes> the kid was there which was bizarre and and the rocky and tate so it was a very interesting thing because I was trying to help but then I knew I couldn't help anymore George. She's in she was like if I corrected one more time he wouldn't slipped my throat and that right knew she had to die right. WITCHY GIO DIS on crown royal in what is it. She said so there wasn't land. I can't remember what it was but like China doll because she said a couple of fans and <hes> bottler whiskey yeah and they just kinda showed her fade nothing killer cell Yep which made sense once again closure for the character. We know what's going on now. She perfectly happy than the little girl with is came in there. Were talking to the table. She's like I have to go have tea party was my daughter. That's it thank you. She was clamming yet although she's Evil B._S.. Crazy she she. She's that was okay yeah yeah. Another highlight of the episode was when they walked in on tear jerker and he goes. Doesn't anybody knock anymore. I'm I'm like Oh my God the in the middle of all this. They do a fast times right exactly exactly what I thought of like fast is it was great. That was really funny. Any like you know we can help with this. We can help solve now. This news like I really need to solve the crying part through guy so yeah yeah so ben did start helping Michael Yes now Michael AC- says the ghosts and want to be seen in the ones that can be seen and I think I can help you so he starts working with him and it gets pretty crazy pretty quickly. We see that he was doing like a Dahlia murder bracelet the woman's mouth though actress she's I could surprise fame that was nuts servino great cameo by her so and that was going back to now. He's supposed to be the doctor that did that in the in the murder house originally I don't know maybe it can't be because that would be out of time. Maybe he's just reliving it. New Owners take over the place and boom he's rubber man and dome. He kills them and then when when that foreshadows to bo-bo yeah right but when Ben is like what are you doing. He just burns them up. Yeah I mean holy cow that was really like with a subscription afterwards he goes natalie utterly destroyed them. He burnt he devoured their souls rang. All of a sudden like Oh. Oh we're those clown kids at so Vivienne shows up yes and finds the cold spot. What was that? What did I write that? The cold spot is from <hes> is between <hes> tate inviolate. That's later. That's at the very very end. No no no I I said Vivian shows up and finds a cold spot. What would you remember what that was? Though Vivian said nothing is natural about this of county Britain shows up she she did she made a reference to it. Being the colts between them. Yes the colts between right so the relationship with with <hes> harmon right right and then she goes Michael isn't just a bad witch. He's something more than that. Yes yes yes and if you if you cut to the end that's when we get the resolution where we see violet and tate and they have the cold and <hes> and <hes> Mallory. I'm getting names wrong now. I'm getting tired. Madison fixes is their relationship like is like look. He's not what you think. Here's what's going on and brings these two ghosts together so you get kind of a instead of a Romeo and Juliet ending you get a better ending for the two right. They come to terms. It's about what's going on between them and then he's like. I never stopped loving you and she's like I know your son needs you. Now Yeah Father Kuban that was what what happened that she goes into the next story which is fantastic. Sadness so so the state nece the the the black pope of the Church of Satan shows up Anton levay. They're there to see Michael and did you notice who the one woman you had mead was there which was great. They played don't fear the reaper when she was there. But did you see who the other one was. This was this was a throwback but it's not a she wasn't a character that's been on before but it's an actress or super familiar with on here Naomi Grossman she played pepper. Yes okay so pepper showed up. It wasn't papper ever so she hasn't been this character on here but as soon as I saw him like wait a minute yeah I mean oh I know that is I looked her up. I'm like Oh yeah. That's it is so cool to have her back on what was great. It was great to have them come in and do the whole thing they did but before they showed up of Connie Britton Vivian was like things were getting really really really weird. She's like crows started circling the house. Yeah the murder of crows there. The house was very very warm inside like it was close to hell and then physios and then they came and they all came into the black robes. They were sadness Yup Yup and I loved it. He's like in his underwears. Like what are you guys doing ear yeah but see Connie Britton makes a great line in that she owes what thought it was just some comment from a pathetic circus and I went oh oh my God. They're talking about freak. Show yes because you know I was like this is great that there was at Reverend Conman Yep yeah that would have ended badly for the conman meeting with Michael. I have a feeling so so they they find a virgin strapper down that killer while they're playing don't fear the reaper yes and the craziest thing was he takes her heart yes and starts eating it and as soon as he eats it a shadow behind him of a demon appear so they they're all sorts of things wrong with US number one. You're not gonNA just reach up in somebody's heart in chest in rebel their heart art now. Of course I mean it was Kinda cool what they did. They slit her open. He rejected but you're not just to watch a clip of a lot to clip but he doesn't eat it and even said we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA leash your power our show you who you really are and they did that was a very supernatural for the show supernatural where they show the angel's wings behind angels and all that stuff so the candidate at Nelson you see Oh my God. This kid is Satan son. These YEP lose baby blues for is I can't. I can't remember alley yeah. They do it but he's he has Satan son Ezio that was nuts nuts and that's where it left us. Yes so oh I don't know I haven't watched next up so I don't know what we're getting into but all I can say is I didn't want this episode and I had a blast beginning to end with shirt then they ended with great music whether like we we need to get the hell Outta here. Go back and talk to Cordelia and they play spirits in the material world by the police which was fantastic. Yeah yeah now is when they played Dante's inferno when they were doing the heart seeing that's what the song is right yeah well and when you had something else I was thinking about you. Think about them going back. They're gonNA talk to Cordelia. We know who's in this timeframe now now that we're back to this time frame what happens nice to our warlocks are they all wiped out or are they going to be with Michael like are they going to show up and they're the others that he was going to bring in. Maybe that's maybe that's that's what it is but it seems like behold doesn't WanNa be on Michael Side so now what if what if behold comes in with them and is the one that portrays him could be. I think there's going well. Obviously Cordelia has a plan because she hides cocoa GEICO. She Hides Coco's power. They hide malary's powers from from them. They hide <unk>. It's diner right or Dina Guida. They Hide Dinas powers so that Michael can't see see them and kill them. Honestly Cordelia makes it and myrtle makes it and who else makes it <hes> Madison makes it right yes and then he also there's obviously which is out there that survive and Cordelia against to do something to them for the long term because I don't think Michael those about cocoa Michael doesn't know about Dina obviously doesn't know about a mallory so. So where are they gonNA wonder I wouldn't like you're talking about that. Yeah I think so too I think I think it has to I think we've reached a point where it either has to catch up to now and we have to miss a thing here and then we'll go back or they gotta have one episode filling in this these blanks and then we start getting into the showdown. which do you know how many episodes this is? I don't know it's at least ten so there's at least four more will they. They have to go into what caused the end of the world I think I think that the next episode is what that is. I don't know anything about it. I haven't even read the title of the episode but somehow it's going to be Michael is obviously Michael but I think they're going to go into what transpires and why he does what he does where he's probably going to betray the warlocks because he's he you'll because it's obvious at him he in mead when I say meet Bowl. It's me a why he had missed me are plotting against because even says will they took look you right in the Gullible Blah Blah Blah so I think he's obviously working against them or not with them so I think he's GonNa wipe them out to. There are only ten episodes in this season right threshold so yeah on Ah I'm hoping Tuesday we can record do episode seven and then we'll be on track for eight and then nine and then wrap it up with ten back two seasons yeah right right yeah and I don't WanNa say anything. I know a little bit about next episode but very little what I want to know is what I'm looking up. Has she played Dina in other other seasons because she was just the last two she was just in roanoke and just in what was her name in Rhodope. She was <hes> what's your sister. It wasn't Dina Zinger sister right and then in when she made the reference to being a big T._v.. Star what she was in one of the seasons. Maybe I don't know wasn't she in Roanoke what did she play here illustrates or as dynasty vans Beverly Hope Lee Harris and Sally Freeman. She's been on thirty one episodes. Let's see if it shows <hes> that character might not break it down what she had a series or was she to people at Rono. She might have been to people in roanoke. It doesn't say 'cause she was beverly hope in Colt right or she she yeah she was a reporter. I'm going to type in Dana Stevens. Let's see if we get something for that. Dance even says a former actress talk show host has ignited as purple at <music> outpost three. She's a character in apocalypse betrayed by Adina Porter. Let's if it has anything more. Oh wait a minute now. It's a new character I was thinking can cause. She was in cult but that characters had a different name. She was Beverly Hope Right. She was Cuba getting junior sister right but once again she's supposed to be a she was a T._v.. Stars on I don't know I I think we're GONNA get a lot more out of her character in the next coming weeks. Oh sure so all right well there because there's a there's a reason why she kept the the the witches that she brought back pursue. There's a specific reason for each while and he writes. She's the one that he recognized. What are you doing here right so I find out we'll find out what social media Chris once you give it absolutely I can be found at blue-box cafe or box cafe one seven six social media also geeks con as Geeks with Z and you can follow the show at disturbed pod find us on facebook under disturbed podcast? Ask Find Our website which is South Media Group DOT com. There is a page for disturbed there <hes> let's see follow me at our southgate or on instagram. You can follow me at Rob Southgate or you can also follow at pods. We post all the different events. We have po special things were doing <hes>. 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Access Consciousness Gary Douglas
"Gary Douglas Smile does he wander through the crowd at the nineteen eighty-seven House Party in Santa Barbara. He loaded up a plastic plate with cubes of Orange. Cheese grabbed himself a glass of white wine and made his way to a large patio overlooking the hosts backyard as he stepped outside he found a dozen other party guests sitting cross legged in a semi circle on the terra cotta tiles at the center of the circle. A bald man in a Hawaiian Shirt Knelt Donna cushion. His eyes closed a moment later. The man's eyes snapped open and in a deep voice. He introduced himself as a being from another dimension. Called Beauchard Gary Watson Silent Awe as bizarre launched into a rambling sermon on the nature of the universe. Later that night once he'd had time to fully process the wisdom offered by the strange spirit. Gary was consumed by a single thought if he could do it. Then why can't I? Hi I'm Greg Olsen and I'm Vanessa. Richardson and this is colts. Apar- cast original every Tuesday. We look at a cults practices their leader and their followers. You can find all episodes of cults and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream colts for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type cults in the search bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network today in a one part episode. We're taking a deep dive into Gary Douglas founder of a new wage self empowerment movement known as access consciousness in the nineteen ninety s Gary. Douglas developed an interest in spirit channeling and claim that he'd been visited by the spirit of Russia's mad monk Grigori Rasputin over the next two decades Gary expanded access consciousness from a mystical meditation clinic into an international media. Empire centered around the vague doctrine of true consciousness attracting tens of thousands of followers a year access. Consciousness eventually earned Gerry an estimated net worth of one point five million dollars according to the meat Gary Section of the access consciousness website Gary. Douglas was born into a midwest middle class white bread family on January. First Nineteen fifty. Gary says that he felt different from most of the people he knew by the time he was six years old but his life prior to Nineteen Ninety. Follow a fairly routine trajectory for someone with his background. He grew up in a fairly stable household though his parents weren't religious. Gary was fascinated with religion from an early age and convinced his parents to let him and his younger sister walk to Catholic mass together when he was nine. Gary later said he liked singing. Hymns and found the stories of the Bible inspiring but the Church's answers about life purpose and the nature of existence were never enough to satisfy his curiosity still searching for answers. Gary attended college in Nineteen Sixty seven where he focused on building the foundations for white bread middle-class life of his own after Gary graduated he moved to Santa Barbara There. He met his first wife and started working real estate. They welcomed a daughter a couple of years later. Not Bad for a twenty five year old kid from a small town in the mid West. His first wife was scientologist to rent a field group in Santa Barbara. But we never fully converted. Gary flirted with scientology throughout the eighties after getting divorced in. Nineteen eighty-three thirty-three-year-old. Gary Married Patricia O'hare she also had experience with scientology but was no longer active in the church. Patricia introduced Gary to another prominent ex scientologist. Mary Vernita at seventy one. Mary had devoted decades of her life to the church. She had a profound impact on Gary and the two became incredibly close. He frequently sought her advice on relationship issues. Financial troubles and other matters their relationship and his experiences with scientology would go on to influence. Gary's later attempts to found his own spiritual organization though he didn't create access consciousness until the early nineties. Gary's fascination with Spirit channeling began at a Santa Barbara House party in Nineteen eighty-seven Spirit. Channeling is a practice that while it claims to explore the spirit world may actually be away of delving into our inner worlds. Vanessa's going to take over the psychology here and throughout the episode please note. Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for this show. Thanks Greg Trans personal psychology or spirit. Psychology attempts to integrate spiritual aspects of the human experience into the framework of modern psychology as explained by a row Valverde in the Journal of consciousness exploration and research channeling is a para psychological phenomenon that can also lead to the exploration of the inner self according to this theory the spirit that possesses a chandler during a trance. State is actually an expression. The Chandler's own unconscious mind meaning that though the channel or may believe another being has entered their body. The spirit is likely a subconscious expression of the Chandler's idealized self. In some cases. The spirit may take the form of a historical figure. The Chandler subconsciously identifies with in the late eighties spirit. Chancellors were the latest trend in Santa Barbara Phenomenon. Fascinated many of the beach cities wealthy psychedelic explorers they played host to self styled gurus who would enter a meditative trance and sit in silence until they were contacted by his spirit. Then the spirit would speak to the crowd through the Chandler. Sometimes the spirit was an ancient Tibetan philosopher preaching a message of brotherly love Deity offering the secret to eternal joy or an alien psychic projecting across the universe just to say hi real or not. The acts were a big hit among new age. Suburbanites intrigued by reincarnation eastern religions and astral projection Gary. Douglas was no exception. When the thirty seven year old watched a man entertain a room of party guests by channeling a being called by Shar? He was spellbound. It's possible the man he saw was. Darryl Anka a well known medium who has channeled a multidimensional being named Beauchard for decades though he would have been just getting started at the time. Anka remained a prominent fixture of the spiritual channel and community for decades. After witnessing the performance Gary began to wonder whether he could learn to channel spirits to it said that Gary joked to his life us no better looking at I. He's no taller. He certainly doesn't speak any better. He's from New Jersey. Whether out of a genuine interest or sensing an opportunity to cash in on a new age trend Gary threw himself into the world of spirit channeling when he wasn't working on his real estate business he devoured books and attended lectures on the subject then in nineteen eighty nine. Gary sister-in-law Virginia came to visit Gary. Now thirty nine invited her Patricia. And a few friends to a channeling session with a local woman named Yvonne who chatted a spirit named Dr. W It was during the session while Gary and friends were meditating silently bet gary claims he made burst contact with the Ghost Grigori. Rasputin Russ Bhuttan was a historic Russian mystic and self proclaimed holy man who befriended czarina Alexandra Feodorovna wife of Nicholas. The second his influence over the royal family destabilize. The monarchy and the leaders of parliament had him assassinated in Nineteen. Sixteen is outrageous. Acts of public drunkenness and heavily publicized affairs with the ladies of the Russian aristocracy earned him his infamous nickname but mad monk of Moscow. Trans Personal Psychology would suggest that Gary Douglas imagined himself being possessed by the spirit of respite as a way of expressing some inner unconscious desire. Perhaps as someone who envisioned himself as a free spirit on restricted by societal limitations gary was unconsciously drawn to rest. Putin's reputation as an oversexed hellraiser. Either way while Channeling Rasputin Gary spoke with a FO- Russian accent. He recounted various details of Rasputin 's life which he claims to have had no prior knowledge of a few minutes later respite and faded and Gary returned to mixed reactions from the others in the room. Virginia and his friends were impressed but Patricia thought Gary may have been pulling a prank on them eventually. He convinced her. It had all been real. Gary insisted that he knew nothing about Grigori. Rasputin before the first channeling. Other than his name. Yet when Patricia recorded the details of respondents life that Gary mentioned during his channeling sessions Gary estimated that about eighty percent of it was one hundred percent correct. After this first encounter Gary was conveniently able to conjure. Bhuttan at will he started offering guided meditation sessions with Rutin to a select group of friends around Santa Barbara in nineteen ninety though one journalist later compared his four Russian accent to a high school theater. Kid Wrangling checkoff. Gary's Russ Putin Act mystified and delighted his early clientele to make sure the routine didn't get stale. Gary also channeled other spirits including an ancient Chinese man and brother George of Boisterous Fryer from the fourteenth century though he developed a small passionate following by the end of nineteen ninety. He still considered channeling to be a hobby. At this point he saw it as a fun way to connect with the new age folks a social circle and bring in some extra money to supplement his flagging real estate business throughout the nineteen eighties. Gary made a good living as an investor. Earning about one hundred thousand dollars a year then in nineteen ninety the. Us economy entered a recession soon. Gary faced mounting debts a lawsuit by collection agencies and an I. R. S. investigation into unpaid taxes. When he was eventually forced into bankruptcy Gary decided to make spirit channeling his full-time GIG around this time. He attended a meditation retreat in Colorado. While meditating in the mountains. Gary supposedly began to channel the spirits of an ancient extinct race of aliens called the Novi Ans they revealed the fundamental nature of the universe to Gary. The alien showed him how to achieve true consciousness by freeing his mind from the pesky human limitations of Judgment. Shane and rational thought. The know the INS could've been another unconscious expression of Gary's desire to live unshackled from all forms of consequence but writing about it later. Gary described the experience of channeling the Novi and says this painful early manuals for access consciousness stated they would take about one breath and talk for twenty minutes lower. Gary's blood pressure and heartbeat to the point that on a ninety two degree day he would be freezing. He needed to drink several cups of hot tea and where a down comforter to raise his temperature to save himself unnecessary pain. Gary suggested the Novi Transmit all future communications through the spirit of Grigori? Rasputin through respite. In the Novi is offered Gary the key components of the philosophy that would define the early years of access consciousness the most important of these concepts being the bars. This massage technique. That stimulates points on the skull to alleviate suffering caused by subconscious memories of traumatic experiences mood disorders and depression. By the time he'd returned from the Colorado Retreat at the end of nineteen ninety. Dairy had everything he needed to launch access consciousness. He had a small devoted following from his channeling sessions in Santa Barbara. A new age philosophy gifted to him by alien spirits and a pseudoscientific physical practice akin to reflect solidly. His cult was ready to go up next. Gary finds the access consciousness empire with a little help from alien head massages. Really excited to tell you about a fantastic new podcast. 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Gary set out to construct his own new age empire piggybacking off the success of his early channeling sessions. Gary founded access energy transformation in Nineteen ninety-one he formalized the group's doctrine and like scientology developed a tiered structure of classes seminars. One on one sessions and incentives designed to recruit members and. Rake in cash. Those evolved significantly over the years through a series of rebranding the original access consciousness doctrine can be summarized in a few key points. The fundamental principle of access consciousness. Is that those who achieve true. Consciousness will find spiritual fulfillment and manifest positive changes in their lives accessories as Gary's converts known were taught at the concepts of good and evil were invented to restrict their behavior through psychological conditioning. According to Gary our minds literally create our reality through our thoughts desires and actions therefore we should not judge ourselves nor inhibit our desires in any way in Gary's view traumatic memories end. Societal expectations create mental blocks that prevent us from experiencing true consciousness access consciousness. Promise that those who attain true consciousness could perform impressive metaphysical miracles like using fought to alter the molecular makeup of cheap wine so it tastes better. The organization separated people into two categories. People who didn't subscribe to its teachings and therefore never attained true consciousness are humans members of access consciousness who aspired to true consciousness on the other hand and have worked to free themselves of Judgment. Shame and self doubt were considered humanoids access. Didn't explicitly forbid indoctrinated humanoids from associating with uninitiated. Humans but the manuals also didn't shy away from disparaging humans as unenlightened harbingers of shame and doubt access manuals also advised humanoid accessories to be wary of their human family. In Gary's view concerned family members were just another limitation to be transcended in order to help new members transition from human to humanoid access consciousness. Used massage therapy called access bars. The practice is similar to eastern reflexologist. Were applying pressure to certain areas of a person's foot is used to cure a number of ailments access bars instead outlined. Thirty two points on a person's skull that when massaged by a certified access bars facilitator were said to relieve a patient of subconscious memories preventing them from experiencing true consciousness. Facilitators made many bold claims about the benefits of access bars. Gary boasted that one session could free a person from five thousand to ten thousand years of mental limitations and cure a variety of mental disorders ranging severity from laziness and low self esteem to suicidal depression. While it certainly irresponsible to suggest that a cranial could cure a severe depressive episode researchers have found evidence that suggests cranial massage can provide other therapeutic benefits one study examining the effects of cranial massage found that compared to control participants massage participants exhibited greater improvements in Migraine frequency and sleep quality during the intervention weeks during sessions massage induced decreases in state anxiety heart rate and cortisol though his claims about the benefits were wildly exaggerated. Gary made access bars. A core component of the access energy transformation curriculum over time access has undergone many changes but the original feedback. Loop where people paid to become facilitators. So they could earn money. By luring new recruits into the classes remained central to its business model for example. A new access converts seeking to become a certified access bars. Facilitator today. Would I need to enroll in foundation class with a licensed facilitator? Which costs six hundred dollars? Ben They would have to take the level one course within the next eighteen months for another six hundred dollars. This makes them eligible for the level two and three courses taught exclusively by Gary Douglas and his top lieutenants and they cost eighteen hundred dollars. Each members interested in becoming facilitators. Must take each class twice for a total of six thousand dollars. Once they've completed the courses they earn an invitation to a seven day intensive retreat in Costa Rica which cost two thousand nine hundred fifty dollars plus airfare. Then once they become a certified facilitator they must pay a three thousand. Two hundred dollar annual recertification fee spending upwards of thirteen thousand dollars earns access members and officials facilitator profile on the access consciousness website and the right to facilitate their own access. Bars courses charging six hundred dollars per person. To perpetuate the cycle. Gary may have received his initial instructions from an alien race called the Novi Ns but the secret. His success lay in combining predatory pay to play model with the trickle up. Pyramid design of a multilevel marketing scheme and yet despite the financial burdens access consciousness placed on his participants. Gary Douglas continued to attract a following from one. Thousand nine hundred. Ninety one to two thousand access grew slowly but steadily it soon evolved from a small group that taught classes out of Gary's home to a national organization with chapters all over the country it was especially successful at carving out footholds in witchy new age hot spots like Denver Tucson Houston and Baton Rouge clearly. People got something out of Gary's lectures X. Accessories said that Gary seminars could be a lot of fun when he was great at creating a strong sense of community among his followers especially in the early years in between Rasputin Channeling sessions where Gary preached in circles about empowering you to know what you know and making the choice to choose. He was a genuinely fun and charismatic person. To Talk to he crack jokes told stories and encouraged participants to share their feelings without fear of judgement. It's not hard to see how someone in a tough spot in their life might come away from what Gary seminars feeling better about themselves but a more sinister secret to the successful expansion of access consciousness was hidden and Gary's ten ts to freedom which all accessories must learn by heart. The first of the ten keys was a question with an infinite being. Really choose this. This question specifically appealed to the vanity of potential recruits access. Consciousness was far from the first new age cult to win people over by encouraging their natural instinct for self aggrandizement other keys to inhibit a person's objectivity such as everything is just an interesting point of view. Live as the question not the answer and no judgement no discrimination no discernment by embracing these mantras accessories insulated themselves from criticism and discouraged each other from thinking critically about Gerry's teachings any contradictory aspect about the organization was folded into the concept of living as the question if accessories never had to judge competing ideas. Then they never had to directly engage with their critics the fifth key no form no structure no significance provided Gary. The leeway needed to reinvent access consciousness as necessary. He could change his dogma. As many times as he needed to maintain its momentum and legitimacy Gary Mix these keys in with several pleasant aspirational mantras intended to portray access consciousness as healthy inclusive and calming sayings. Like no drugs of any kind live in ten second increments. No competition and no exclusion taken together. These keys to freedom serve a dual purpose. They indoctrinated the members of access consciousness into a docile pattern of behavior by encouraging his followers. To let go of judgment live in the moment and not worry too much about the past or future Gary could lower them into a state of increased suggest ability. This kind of dual purpose is a common feature of colts. As explained by Dr Margaret Singer in a study on psychotherapy cults. She wrote because cults profess to help members but in actuality exploit them cults develop a double agenda in which they employed dual set of norms with the surface norms subservient to the deeper hidden designs and purposes of an organization or group? Surface norms stressed. The idealism and the righteousness of the 'cause below the surface however are a set of underlying norms that efficiently run the organization. Enshrining these techniques says the ten commandments at the heart of access. Consciousness allowed Gary to profess a benevolent idealism. This worked to make new members more easily indoctrinated and from nineteen ninety one to two thousand as Gary work to expand access energy transformation beyond the confines of Ohio. County thousands of people lined up to embrace Gary's Ten Commandments. Then in two thousand fifty year old Gary Douglas met the man who would transform access consciousness. Soon it would go from a regional new age novelty to a media savvy international wellness Brad. But first Gary would have to save a man's life coming up Gary Douglas discovers a depressed chiropractor with magic hands and together they launch access consciousness into the twenty first century now back to the story throughout the nineteen nineties Gary. Douglas attracted a steady following of new age. Devotees to access consciousness entertained by the lively conjuring up Grigori Rasputin Ghost. Converts were captivated by his philosophy of radical self acceptance by two thousand fifty year old. Gary was looking to expand even further at the time. Dane here was a chiropractor in his thirties. Living in Santa Barbara he was handsome. Engaged to a wonderful woman and lived twenty minutes from one of the best beaches in California though he appeared to have it all Dane was severely depressed. His medical practice wasn't doing well and he was struggling to pay his half of the rent in the apartment. He shared with his fiancee crippled. By self doubt and self loathing. He made a plan to end his life in six months. If things did not improve fortunately he stumbled across a newspaper ad for an access bars class and decided to sign up for an introductory class. Dane took to access immediately. He was charming and gentle. If a little melancholy with a brilliant smile and a good eye for fashion he was a big hit with other members of the class especially the ladies perhaps because of his experiences a chiropractor. Dane proved to have a talent for running bars. After completing the foundation and level one classes Dane met Gary for the first time when Dane ran bars for him Gary was blown away recounting the story at a class in two thousand four. Gary said he started doing this stuff and I started twitching all over the table and when I got up I said WHOA. What did you just do? That was the most phenomenal thing I've ever experienced. That session changed my life and it changed his to Gary Stain to begin facilitating advanced classes. Launching him straight to the top of the access consciousness hierarchy not long after that Dane moved into his house and became his number two man. While there's no mention of what became of Dane and his fiancee's relationship. It appears the couple split by the time. Dane moved in with Gerry. Dane was increasingly popular within the access. Consciousness community Dane could induce orgasm in some people just by placing his fingertips on their scalp. Gary recognized that Dane had enormous potential as a youthful handsome and articulate. Spokesperson began grooming him to become one of the main public faces of the organization as Dane handled more of the classes and administrative responsibilities. Gary was free to focus his efforts on the big picture. He'd managed to carve out a lucrative niche for himself among those interested in New Age philosophy and mysticism but he could sense that the tide was turning as the new millennium dawned. The rising tide of new age thought he'd been riding since the Eighties had finally begun to ebb. By two thousand four. Gary started to push access consciousness in a new direction. Distancing it from its mystical origins. Now fifty four he phased out his Rasputin character. Offering the official explanation that he'd gotten tired of people treating respite in like their personal psychic. Unofficially it's likely Gary knew that by obscuring the more bizarre elements of the origins of access consciousness. He could rebrand the access philosophy for a wider audience. He intended to expand access consciousness to be an umbrella company covering all manner of lifestyle and wellness techniques in two thousand five after giving rest Putin the boot for good fifty five year. Old Gary transitioned further publishing. His first self help book it was titled. Sex is not a four letter word but relationship. Oftentimes is it cobbled together aphorisms from Gary's previous seminars lectures offering relationship. Advice through the self-centered Lance of accesses true consciousness philosophy for example one piece of advice included in the book was passed down to Gary from his scientologist. Mentor Mary Veronica. She advised that a healthy marriage must be based in honor and respect. A conscious partner may choose to sleep with someone besides their spouse but they must not dishonor the partner by telling them about it. Incidentally Gary these self marriage expert divorced his Second Wife Patricia in two thousand five after the success of his first book Gary went on a writing spray other books published under the access consciousness. Umbrella include right riches for you beyond the Utopian ideal talking to animals how to become money. Money's not the problem you are. And many many more becoming a published author gave Gary a new era of legitimacy. It allowed him to rebrand himself as a bestselling author. International Speaker sought after facilitator and expert in behavioral psychology. He was offered spots on radio shows to promote his books and even made his way onto some local morning shows all that free publicity fed back into access consciousness and it gradually developed into an international following. Today you can find certified access facilitators offering classes all over the world from Texas to Lithuania. Gary'S LECTURES BOOKS AND VIDEO. Courses have been translated into over a dozen languages. However evidence suggests that by two thousand seven. All of the success had started going to Gary's head attendees of the fifty seven year olds. Lectures noticed market shift in his personality. Around that time. The once open minded and magnanimous speaker. Started to develop a cruel streak. Lectures on relationships often diverted into gary airing bitter grievances against his ex wives and vicious tirades against those who had slighted him in the past sadly it only got worse from there at a seminar on family and relationships in two thousand seven. Gerry of other and grandparent himself recorded saying quote. Young children are incredibly sexy instead of acknowledging this and allowing themselves to enjoy the energy without acting on it parents most often judged themselves for being wrong for having these feelings about their children. In addition to this questionable statement Gary took a radical departure from the inclusive nature of his earlier tax cuts in two thousand and four. Gary had encouraged criticism of his ideas. It was all part of living as the question. But by two thousand twelve excerpts from access manuals strikes starkly different tone slandering those who criticized accesses teachings as evil and conniving the new texts labeled critic says demons from Hell and went so far as to suggest accessories should threaten to kill them. Gary's advice on family and marriage took a dark turn as well with the later manuals advising members that the only reason to have family is if they have money you might inherit otherwise divorce them as Gary became a less reliable spokesperson for the organization. Dane here stepped into the gap. Doing more television appearances and radio interviews. He remained immensely popular within the access. Consciousness community and by two thousand twelve. He become the dominant public face of access consciousness. In contrast to Gary Dane was fun and casual his seminars. Were Raucous hands on affairs where he would live things up by cracking sexually charged jokes. He expanded his roster of courses offering an in demand. Sex Workshop called the joys of Orgasm but as Dana was collecting. Fan's sixty two year old Gary faced more detractors. In Two thousand twelve he announced plans to launch a series of education initiatives aimed at preteens and teenagers in exchange for a fifty thousand dollar donation to the Ricky Williams Youth Education Charity. Gary got to host and educational event at a High School in Houston. His lecture encouraged kids to know what they know and taught them techniques to manipulate their teachers to get better grades. Suddenly Texans and the local media were asking if access consciousness was cult targeting children. The recording about children's sexiness from two thousand seven resurfaced accusations of sex cult shenanigans soon followed and while that aspect was likely untrue. They still had good reason to be suspicious of Gary's intentions. It's possible Gary didn't decide to pivoted targeting teenagers on a whim as a master manipulator. He understood that teens were particularly susceptible to access his method of thought. Reform according to the results of a study commissioned by the programme for international student assessment only fourteen percent of American Students Ages. Thirteen to seventeen are able to deal with concepts that are abstract or counter intuitive and established distinctions between fact and opinion based on implicit cues pertaining to the content or source of the information. Children make easy targets for Gary's brand abstract abstract counter intuitive psychobabble if he could hook them while they're young he'd recruited customer for life doing damage control on behalf of his organization. Ricky Williams assured the concerned parents of Houston that he would not allow access consciousness to hijack his foundation's education programs after the two thousand twelve debacle access. Consciousness moved its headquarters to Houston Texas but they maintained a low profile since then and stayed out of the news still the organization continues to attract members. Gary and Dain are still out there leading seminars hosting seven day intensive retreats in Costa Rica and offering up meandering metaphysical lectures to anyone willing to listen from the sandy shores. Santa Barbara Gary. Douglas took the new wave for a ride around the world. A natural born salesman. He spent two decades perfecting the art of selling of vague notion of consciousness but by lionising is own subjectivity. Gary eventually lost his grip on reality and proved just how hollow it is to live life. Ten seconds at a time. Thanks again for tuning into cults. We'll be back next week with another episode. You can find all episodes of cults and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Not only to spotify already. Have all your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast rituals like colts for free from your phone. Desktop or smart speaker to stream colts on spotify. Just open the APP and type colts in the search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram. At podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. Cults was created by Max Cutler as apar- cast studios original executive producers include Max and Ron Cutler. Sound designed by Brendan Hawkins with production. Assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden and Freddie Beckley. This episode of Colts was written by Nick. Hanley writing assistance by Abigail Cannon and stars Greg Paulson and Vanessa Richardson.