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207: The NHL Is Getting Closer And Closer To A 2021 Return To Play & Other Bruins Related News

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207: The NHL Is Getting Closer And Closer To A 2021 Return To Play & Other Bruins Related News

"Thank you for listening to the black and gold hockey podcast. Please support the show by subscribing to and leaving a 5-star rating for the show on Apple podcast. IHeartRadio on be SoundCloud Spotify Stitcher and any of your favorite podcast platforms. You could also support the show by going to our website black and gold hockey where there's always exciting articles by the BMG writing staff choir there. Don't forget to click on the banner are great sports fan shopping experience because that's show We are off of short-handed off More Voltage off and on and off. Welcome to the black and gold hockey podcast presented by black and gold hockey Productions podcast Network and sponsored by BetOnline. Go to bed online. AG may enter the code clns fifty. Today is December 13th, 2020 one of the great days in history. And this is episode 207. I am Matt Berry wage. I am joined each week by Heather Anderson. Hello, Heather. Hello, Matt and Mark. Happy Sunday the 30 Sunday and hello, Mark Mark all words with us as well. What's up, man? How you doing big? Happy birthday to you, sir. Thanks. Thanks. Absolutely. Yeah today. I am twenty-five again. Nice Society third year in a row. I love the trips around the world at such a great choice that they I mean, I'm in a time capsule right now. I just stay at twenty-five. So also I want to shout out Thomas Nystrom. He's a black and gold Productions Sports Media Company call log. So happy birthday to him. Hopefully he's doing well. Kick ass jerseys. We got some merge merge merge coming out. So we'll talk about it later. But happy birthday, sir. Yes, happy birthday to Thomas and we have a jam-packed agenda today and the light is at the end of the tunnel. Here is the Bruins are going to be back the NHL is going to be back. So we'll talk about it. I'm kind of that stuff. But first Marquess towards about BetOnline. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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I saw some of the photos that were, you know around on Twitter and they are just fantastic looking almost look like the real deal and I think I might have to get one myself. Yes. Yes, we're all getting customized jerseys. If you follow Thomas, please send them a DM if you want one. I know that he was extending to 48 hours. I'm not sure when listeners and viewers on YouTube are going to be able to get one. But if you happen to see here this tonight when the when the release happens get in touch with Thomas get an order in the only wage When you box your name number, whatever we have some they look fantastic and we're also in the works of getting upon hockey little game going on with some friends and family members that BNG so that's in the works, but we'll talk about that later. But yeah jam-packed show today and I'm pumped to have my my my friends the trio is back together. So after a two-week Hiatus of of weather and family stuff, I'm glad to see you're back and I'm glad to hear that you're doing much better. I am doing my damn doing much better. I mean today is my birthday cake. That's a good day and then battled some some illness and then some power outages and Wi-Fi outages and it was it's been a it's been a month or two here of just general, you know horseshit. But right now it is much better. So that's where onward and upward and twenty Twenty-One very very soon. So we're we're about to turn the corner, so that's great table. To hear but yeah, thanks so much first real item on the agenda the NHL update. It's looking at January 13th as a Target, but it's exactly one month away and Training Camps may be opening around January 3rd, and hazardous has to make you as excited as me to see some hockey back. I am very excited. I'm also very skeptical but that's just my nature. So they're still I know they're still meeting every day. They still I think that they agreed that they're just going to walk away from the home scroll fighting for an oil and they can all fight about that at the next contract but there's still some things to work out but I'm excited because now there's actually seems like there's more hope I feel like it was like the attrition Warfare that was going on even just last week so know hopefully everything will be on target for that and getting them in because I think we all agreed like it's sucks. All the hockey is getting take away like I mean even just if you want to watch college hockey or ECHL or whatever like things if it's not been kind to the world and neither should Sports be an exception to that. So of course, I'm pumped home. I mean I still I don't know I try I try to have faith but I've also watched Gary Bettman do a show too long to know that sometimes it looks good in a feel it and I don't get too excited until it's like January 3rd and people learn but people have started coming home from overseas and stuff not tons of people that you've seen players trying to move back to Canada or the US respectively depending upon their Club Blaze and that's all good. So at least the players themselves look like they're initiating kind of get home and quarantined by the holidays, you know and start the process from there. So what do you think Mark hopeful? I'm very hopeful and and from the the folks that are doing the most talking the Elliott Friedman Darren Dreger is the guys that are in the trenches are getting this league news that we wage. Fans need to hear and it says podcast here in a media company need to here so we can produce the content that we're doing right now and on our black and gold hockey.com website with $25,000 and so on so it's all very very good news in my opinion. And when those guys are talk and you know that something's going to come down the down the down the path and I feel I'm very confident. This is going to happen mid-January. So I don't believe this news would be getting out if it wasn't going to happen. I think that those guys are so deep in the trenches that if something was wrong there was turmoil between both sides the NHL as an entity and the nhlpa, I think that Worth news would come out than than what we're hearing. So it's good to have both sides having some some dialogue about what's going on. And what was said back in March what the future is going to look like, but I'm ready for it and and I'm pumped so dead. And I am too I you know, they'll be cases and there will be rescheduling and it will be protocols and it'll be similar to what's happened in the NFL with cases in in players having to sit out and some quarantining and that those of I mean, it won't be it won't be easy. It won't be seamless. It won't be smooth. But I think the league is going to try everything they can to muscle through a season just like NFL has and I think that you'll see the only the only thing I see that only problem there is that typically played two or three games a week in the NHL and only one game a week in the NFL. So if you have to reschedule games and move this the calendar on you may see a situation where a team has to play three games in three nights so, you know and and that type of thing and and travelling is a different it's going to be different now with with no no real bubble and trying to get into your own Arenas and off. Of and all those things I mean all those things have to be hashed out and half then they'll be some trial and error and it won't be easy and it'll be frustrating at times. I'm sure and some teams will be against it with guys out and in and so it's going to be a different type of season without a doubt but I am pretty confident that the league is going to try everything they can to continue the season Once they started. Yeah and and they have to because of the future of sustainability of the league. We are in a a very very important time negotiations for a TV contract and and it's going to be US Dollars, it's good. We're getting away from the the TV contract The Five-Year deal that they did with RDX TG and somebody else up in a TSN up in Canada. And because that was so bad a lot of people don't don't know that when the Canadian dollar plummeted because the oil price wage So did pretty much that deal because you were paid in American dollars, but the the the deal was in a Canadian term. So this is getting back to some some American TV companies is going to be huge because now we're going to be on the same page when it comes to the the dollar evening out and so on so it's going to be more it's going to be more plentiful NHL so and having having them go through this. I don't think if they shut everything down. This is what sucks about people when they talk about this. Some folks are saying shut it down and took the podium saying no you need to do this because it's not a good idea to be be negotiating a TV contract with a dead year that you didn't show up and do anything that doesn't look good on on trying to get something moving forward for the future. So that's important to to to know that this TV deal is is absolutely huge. It's it most certainly is I was going to say what you are saying though. I think that the only what I get most worried about is the scheduling and like you want to have as many games as you walk in, right but losing Thirty games in a season is a big hit in the NHL NHL. You know what I mean, said NFL football on the brain today, I apologize. So I think for me I think they need to be logical about it and like really see you have to factor in you're going to probably have to reschedule games right because of a friend of a friend test positive. That's the circle and you have to you know, go through I kind of like this idea and maybe it is cuz I'm I like baseball but this year why don't we try instead of every other day we're playing in a different city. Why don't we play three games in a row say you have the six people in your league and you play them, you know or something like that or the same like or you schedule Three teams are kind of playing in the same city over those that week instead of like you said like football plays once a week. They have a whole week to quarantine kind of get tested get saddled. We're hockey. They're moving every day or every other day. So I think this year I know there's been talk about two about keeping the expanded playoffs. I hate them. I think the playoffs should be if you're one through it you get to be in the play-offs and if you're not and your conference go away because you're not good enough to be in the playoffs. I hate that format. I wish that wouldn't stay but I think this year they should explore for safety reasons seeing about maybe going like series instead of game game game or close contacts. So the Islanders Rangers and Philly all play each other only, you know what I mean in that little area. So you're only dealing with three of the Rings shutting down instead of you had four teams go through there and potentially having to reschedule for you know, that's just me I and I know they're all on that, you know, and those are the things they still have to hash out though, you know, but I would like to see them. As much as I love hockey keep it on the lower end. So there's more flexibility to not have to push the playoffs cuz they're already going to be up against it for the Olympics and the TV with NBC to you know, finish up. I know I know from Reading Draeger and and Friedman and so on and that sweets in the past week and half one big proponent to these negotiations is the fact is that they were talked about doing a bubble system again, the players don't want to do the bubble again. I think the Toronto bubble was a little more better for everybody but when they all went to Edmonton or even the the team that were playing in Edmonton weren't happy up there. So it wasn't the same in both bubbles. I think the players are a little afraid of that but what they are talking about is a two-week one-off schedule. So Monday as much games as you possibly can in two weeks and have one week off to to go home and visit with family. So I I I like that idea. I like the family if you making the if you move The players happy and you're not you know, basically just shutting off their their lives from their families for four months five months. I think it's important for them to see these people because if they're happy seeing their family once, you know every two weeks and not once every four months, it's a little bit better for them to to be more in the mindset of the job that needs to be done and not just lock down and and you know, the common common word for being upset in these bubbles was fly fishing. Did you guys know that note here that if you if you look at any of the videos when someone they're like, what are you going to do today, you know after the game or after practice and like, oh, we're all getting together to go fly fishing. That means that they were not happy in the in these bubbles because it was their their common Collective way of saying this fucking sucks. Yeah. Well, I think I mean the part of the problem too was the thing dog. They are promised it was like okay, we can we were told we could all go out of golfing but like if one person didn't want to go golfing. Nobody could go golfing kind of thing, which seems a little that seemed a little crazy as players were already kind of griping about it. And even in Toronto where they didn't seem to have at least a little more freedom. I mean the poor kids in Edmonton didn't even have to see the day of light they went like hotel to straight under the streets rink. But to Mark's Point, that's something the you know, the NHL always follows the NBA's league good better ugly. Right? And one thing that the MBA bubble did now I would say that the e h l bubble started off and stayed the best that we've seen how to deal with it this year. But the NBA once they said no no one else gets to come into the bubble after this date and they punish the people who violated rules wage. They had set there's up though. The families were in the bubble with them and they had tutors there. So the kids could go to school in the family's actually came and watched the games and then they had the cutouts. That's something that if the dog Even if it's not bubble bubble tea, but like hey Will Allow your family to travel with you. So you're kind of in your own team bubble. That's something to really consider. Especially a lot of these players is it would be harder. Obviously, if you have an age and stuff like that, but a lot of these people have families that are like five kids under the three kids under the age of five there in age where it won't mess. It's healthier for them to be traveling with the parents, you know, and then like you said, you don't get cut off you can only hang out with you buddy so long before you want to murder them. It's like last week of summer vacation. You're kind of happy to see all those people. You didn't see over three or four months. So that's our home. Yeah. I think that the problem with the NHL doing a one is money into is you have 20 people on the roster maybe even more and you have 12 a.m. Ball players. So there's a you know, eight more it says 250 more players or so in the league than in the NBA. So in the NBA obviously is a just a cash cow dog. They can do they can provide those benefits to players. I like the idea of having, you know families in the mix there and I think it was it would be hard for the league to say. Okay, let's let's have you guys take pay cuts and then be from your family for 5 months. I mean, I think that that's a double whammy it just doesn't create much more L High morale and so to have maybe that's a part of lessening the blow with the money situation is to say okay, you guys can see your families and so forth and so on it's going but again, it's going to be it's going to be K suggestion is going to be it's going to be a different way. I'm interested to see how the League's going to manage all that when there are cases and because they really had they did a tremendous job at all. They they made it really easy for themselves and they didn't have to deal with a lot of that. But when the scheduling conflicts come and the and the cases and and The rosters take hits cuz wage. Has four guys have to quarantine and when you quarantine 10 days, whether it's ten or fourteen, whatever it is, you know, that's that's three or four games, you know, so it's it's nice, you know, it's going to be difficult. But I really believe they're going to do everything they can to get right through the season and it's going to be messy at times but at least they'll be hockey. You know, what can you walk and there's a vaccine coming down the figure pipeline it gets shipped. Right? Right. We sold it is. Another thing is you can you can you can yeah, if you can just borrow some time here and you get you start getting it back something you can vaccinate the players. I'm hearing that sports teams are going to get obviously they'll get I mean they had they had first crack at testing they'll have first crack at vaccinations so that could definitely help off right then so as much as I love sports I have an issue with yep Sports is not essential, you know, I mean actually well, I think I don't remember what it was but someone kind of had started an uproar about the idea that job They were going to look for vaccinations and was kind of like, oh, they're trying to secure and then they had to like clarify can't remember who it was but clarify all the League's looking into it. Right? So I'm not saying like cuz sports are emerging economies Canada America everywhere like, you know, I mean if england couldn't play soccer for well. Sorry football for Two months not only when people go mentally crazy, but they would lose so much. I mean those are big money-making that's like the NBA and NFL over there. I do have an issue though generally with like Sportz the vaccine. I don't know like I just feel like they they are important to our sanity, but they are also just people like you and I and I know I'm not treating people who are sick and I'm not working practicing home or in a school. Like I would argue a teacher as an essential line worker and she have access if they choose to have the vaccine over, you know, my beloved Boston Bruins and and that right is Thursday. I think just because I say that only because the we don't really know how distribution is going to I mean all chances are the general public we are not going to have access to this vaccine if we choose to want to take it off until at least May April May, you know later maybe Into Summer right? So that makes it a wash for most everybody else to suck it up till thing. Maybe that's Fortaleza got might have to suck it up again for another six months and we'll wage. Call it a wash and in 2022. Hopefully we will all be a little more normal. You know that even I would rather like if Matt you need a you know what I mean, which obviously you know, you might not you know, whatever people shouldn't be forced to take it cuz that's another thing is if the league takes on that are they do they have the right as an employer to say you have to take this vaccine or you don't get you know, like that's a whole different logistical. I'm not saying that they'll leave that I'm not sure about something being talked about is because of cuz the league is compromised of so many different cultures some Polly some don't believe in and immunization them on so that's something that is all going to be brought down. But this is not a situation where it's it's humanity and hockey, you know what I mean? It's it's the the NHL's going to fall off the money that they're going to need to buy their vaccinations for their players, but it's not in the situation that Yeah, this is so hard for me to say that they are doing it over anybody else of importance. If it was like that Humanity would always be first. They're just getting ready to get get going. So and they're doing it appropriately it's not taking one. You're not robbing Peter to pay Paul. You know what I'm saying? It's not that situation. Right? And I think that you know the other case, like I said, she had covid but I if I but I also work at too high schools. So if they offered me the vaccine vaccine, I mean, it's almost makes more sense to say okay. Why don't we test people for antibodies and if you have antibodies then maybe we give the vaccine vaccine to somebody else but you know, I don't know can I get into the science thing? But I think it's I think it's I agree with you Heather that it's dead. It's not they're not really essential number one. They don't really for the majority the vast majority of them are not it's not a life-threatening virus for them because they're athletes who are young? And Barrel and healthy and all that for the most part. So that's the other thing and and and the other thing is Educators and nurses and them who are in the front lines and and we get kids back to school full-time. And so those those should take priority and I agree with you. I agree with that a percent. So next item on the agenda is along those same lines is Governor Baker going to let fans into a guard and my dad's an usher and he's been out of ushering since mid-march no events at the Garden no fans there who will Governor Baker let fans and they're actually talked to a good buddy of mine who I've known forever works for the use the vice president of member experience in Arena operations for the boss Celtics, and I talked to him the other day about what they were going to do as far as It's in in in it won't be easy deciding who gets available tickets because the season ticket holders May out, you know outweigh the the amount of seats available. So it would be a real slippery slope on how to get people into the building. So I just want to get you guys in your your sort of view of it and marked you think it will happen. I tend to think it won't at least in the beginning or until vaccines are really showing some you know, some high-quality results, but I don't know do you think there's any chance you'll see some some crowds in there and how much on this topic when you talk about the Celtics it brings up something very interesting that I heard a couple of days ago, which prompted me to write an article about the Providence Bruins. We'll talk about that later. But the same person also reached out to me and told me that the governor Baker visit was for the Celtics only and it wasn't for them. Hockey and one of the reasons why this is happening and the the outpouring of outdoor hockey came about like if we can't play at the TD Garden I'm going to go and that's why they read why the Bruins reached out to Arenas like like where the Patriots play and friendly and Fenway so long and it's because of operational costs. This is what this Source has told me that it costs double or triple the amount of overhead to produce a hockey game than it is a basketball game. So it makes more sense for them to have a game there because they don't have to take the and it's Union reasons for some unknown reason the union is involved in this page. And there's there's back and forth going on because union members take the floor off and they put the floor back on and so so I don't I don't know song How true that is or anything like that, but I tend to go with somebody that's been a hundred percent in the last four years. I've been dealing with them. So well, maybe Mac quizlets dad would know cuz he's looking guy exactly exactly. So that's one of the things is is it takes less to run a a basketball game that it is a hockey game and yeah, you know, so how's it also spread them out a little more in the basketball because you can have seats on the floor and you have those extra sections you put in along the floor so sake the crowd is sort of on the edge that bowl but but in basketball you can spread them out and think a little more and the number was 7500 that down that being I'm saying what he might allow that's roughly little less a little more than a third if it's like twenty Grand in there. So yeah, I would point out what it'd be safer to have hockey because there's boards that keep these germs from going on that side and wage. Fans are socially we're in basketball fans literally can get like five players fall in bands laps. Now. I'm just joking. I mean I would like to see but this raises an interesting question because most often cities there basketball in their hockey teams play in the same building. Like there's not really, you know, it's not certain places hockey is what it is. Right and you're Montreal's and your Toronto's but like with the Kings and the and the Lakers are equally important to La fans like, you know what I mean or whatever like they have Susan in some a lot of people have season tickets to both teens, you know what I mean, if they're stylish so it's kind of interesting if that debate like maybe it's a union issue of every I mean, let's face it like you maybe every place has that problem that the unions like yeah. No, it's a lot easier for us to lay the park and just walk away, you know, even put it but I was only joking but it is kind of Almost Say for like hockey at least only the players are breathing on themselves over here and the fans are not breathing on each other over there might be off. Well, it creates a weird dynamic because the Celtics rent the building in the Bruins own it and if the Bruins can have fans in in the Celtics can is kind of strange and I wonder if you know, obviously Jacobs Jeremy Jacobs owns the concessions and make plenty of money, you know with that situation and how they'll do concessions and concourses another thing but it'll be interesting because the Celtics could be able to have fans and even the Bruins won't and still building. So that's that's sort of a funny thing. Well, here's here's the thing is is there's already reached out to somebody I rank managed to do so on but a a facility like the TD Garden and their overhead costs are not going to even come close to covering the 7,500 fans that are allowed to go into the garden that or hockey game that are paying so he's I mean all it comes down to is he still losing money? No matter what scenario he goes in right? Oh God. The biggest thing and basketball is what you going to do. You going to put the lights on and maybe a little air conditioning right in high. You have the air conditioning and you have all those glycol machines that pump the ice full of choice to keep it right? Absolutely Frozen. So right there's a lot of logistics and a lot of business aspects that go right in these thoughts and the friend of mine that that with the Celtics said that they have to actually had to provide more ventilation because of the air quality. So now not only is is the guide and drafty cuz I think it's one of the more drafty of places. It's never that warm in there, but it's even draft beer now because I have to have they have to bring in more outside air. I guess he was telling me so that creates a dynamic in the summer fog and the ice is there and having more outside are interesting off the ice already sucks there. So now you're going to have some humidity creeping in well, at least it's better than frigging. The island is down in Brooklyn, right? Yep. Excited manager, how do we feel about the proposed realign divisions? Although not set in stone quite yet. But you know, the Bruins divorce division looked pretty difficult Washington was in there Pittsburgh Islanders, you know, they Tampa Bay looked like they had a cakewalk. So I didn't know if you guys had any thoughts. Hello, we could start with you on the division alignments off. It will be interesting to see I'll like a lot of big boys. We don't have to worry about very much except for like in our own little rivalries like it's on one hand off. The only team that makes me more insane than the Montreal Canadiens is the Philadelphia Flyers, but I think that's because of our age we still kind of were raised in Broad Street vs. Causeway you mean so that's kind of interesting exciting like maybe trying out a lot at Washington. Although you know, that doesn't always turn out well like I don't know it'll be like the rising Rangers like it looks like it would be fun job. The same time I don't I'm not comfortable with like I kind of liked us being like half good half bad and I division. Do you know what I mean? Like, so it'll be I don't know. I still whole like us better than Tampa Bay, but it'll be interesting to see What happens right cuz you're going to have some of the higher-end teams all in that one Division and that hasn't happened in a while. We had that year a few years ago where like the Metropolitan Division was just sucked beyond belief and it was like the battle of the top six seeds in the playoffs and everybody else. But I'm really I understand why they have to do it but it does break my heart that we don't page real could this be the first time in a hundred whatever, you know what I mean years that Boston and Montreal have not played each other in a regular season game, you know, and that does break my heart a little I think it'll be exciting and interesting though to shake it up a little bit cuz not just in the East and the West there's a couple of Divisions that are like that like a couple that like, you know one was a total hot mess and like all those teams were on there and it flip flops. Sometimes it's the Central and sometimes it used to be the Pacific and now the central seems to be making their move to be so I think it's interesting. I think I'll be very interesting to them. All Canadian division good luck with that Ottawa Senators. I don't like all of a sudden the Winnipeg Jets like we're back in like, you know, but no I I don't hate them. I wish they'd figure out what the hell. Minnesota like, I understand that some TV contract or something that's happening. But like make up your mind these teams in the like how hard can it be to figure out where to put Dallas? Let's just make an agreement. So, what do you guys think? I don't know. I am a good for it for this year. It is what it is. I it sucks. We're not going to see Montreal because of the Rivalry and I love that rivalry home. I love the new one that's being created by Toronto but it also scares me too. Because I mean you losing those teams which you know, you can you can beat on the regular bulb but you go into other teams that you don't see all the time and you do play them for four times. I believe a year and the arrests you play six times. So but now you can be playing these games. I 68 times a season in a condensed shortened season actually, so but you think about the power house and and and you know, it's kind of weird that over the offseason you see teams in the homeless calling the Adams division in the Atlantic division got better in Boston signed Craig Smith, which I think Boston got better was signing him anyway, but they don't do enough to like really put them over the over the threshold of of like we're going to be Cup champions anytime soon other teams did make those moves appropriate mood for their franchises off, but now the pandemic is basically saying, all right you getting away from those good teams that just got better but you go into teams that have been better for a little while and then constantly building like the range are no joke. I mean that lineup is absolutely sick and the goal-tending is going to be nasty Buffalo got a little better with with Taylor Hall. We'll see what happens when how they jell together dead. The in Philadelphia is a constant a prospect pool. I mean, they're my new favorite freaking franchise for drafting prospects and and developing cuz they're doing it properly and took the Bruins would take a note but you know, New Jersey is is what it is. I just it's going to be tough to to deal with hopefully the coaching staff are already dead and and got video and sending it and during the off-season saying, you know, listen, this is your side. This is where you need to cover. This is what you need to let up and and get ready for this as I know that the same coaching staff video staff and everybody has been doing on Zoom for for a long time. Now is you know, if they need to reach out to a player they're going to do it and we need to address a certain area of need then we'll figure it out much like they did before the the return to play and the 2020 Stanley Cup playoffs, you know, so I'm looking forward to it cuz it's hockey. Is it going to be a little awkward absolute wage? What for one year and then go back to a regular Atlantic division. Go back to playing Montreal and kicking their ass go back to you know, beating Toronto Bergeron Bergeron Bergeron is all I need. One year pandemic times suck it up and just play hockey. Yeah, I agree. If you if it means playing hockey then do whatever it takes to play hockey. It's the three big rivals. You would say arguably Toronto Montreal and Tampa Bay will not be played in this scenario. So that's disappointing and I you know, some people were saying well, this is really tough. If you really look at it. I'm more concerned about like the Islanders and Philly to up-and-coming teams. Philly really made some strides Islanders have good young players made some strides. I think Pittsburgh and Washington are on the back end of the windows. I think the Bruins are better than those teams. So I don't know if it's that difficult to division for them, you know, if they stay healthy and you know, of course covid-19 Was what's what roster you'll see every night, but you know team for team. I would be more concerned about the Islanders and Philly. I think the Rangers are very good, you know, just so I I don't I walk ins with a class of over all of that Division and I don't I don't see them having a ton of problems if it's you know, if they're healthy and and so forth. So but I am disappointed not seeing Montreal because there's still that great, you know to me. Anyway this still that it's a little it means a little more when when they play Montreal it's just a little different if maybe is not as great as it was in the seventies eighties, you know into the nineties, but it's still a little bit different Toronto back in time. You could play teams that have rabid fanbases. It's just it just lends to a better product a better atmosphere. Just a better overall feeling playing those teams and and not having a job. Ottawa Montreal is definitely going to be different but like Mark said if it's one year, then I could suck it up if it means I can have hockey. So I think that's it's a lesser of two evils. So so to speak, so there was some next item on the agenda. There was some musical numbers. Players changing numbers and I know that Jack studnicka went to twenty-three. So all you Chris Kelly fans out. I'm sorry. The number was not retired. So subjects Tanika changes. So there was some numbers being changed around and so forth. I've always been of the mindset that if you have a big number like a 77 8899 that type of thing that you should be a pretty good player like because you that's identifying someone yet. You should put your eyes on when they get on the box like so like the The Muse and the Gretzky's and the bork's and the Paul coffees and those guys they should have the bigger numbers no offense to Michael Ryder, but I'm Are really shouldn't have 73, you know, so I and it's it's not a big deal, but I just think it's something that I think that players should have sort of normal numbers unless they're one of the real identifiable players on the ice. So I didn't know what your take on it marked. If if it really mattered, you know player numbers and so forth. I know but off this stuff that it's coming out is like a really good sign though, like from the organization saying that we haven't even started and it's you know, there's a 99% chance of this is might not happen. But the change in numbers so far. I mean Trent Frederic goes from a high number to a number 11 love to see that kid in the lineup. 2018 Jackson Meka 23, he would that down in Providence. Obviously. He's comfortable with that letter. I mean that number and and who else and Craig Smith twenty fifth grade. So that means that was on change to yeah, I went to avoid sharks 55 and Jack Smith went to twenty-two. So that's a a sheer shot that Peter Solara it's not coming back. So but no, I mean, it is good it is it is good. Maybe that's those numbers that these guys wanted but no, I'm happy and and I'm happy that they're they're getting their their their home their stuff in in place for the upcoming season. Yeah that that's that Nika number that you wore last year is now a real collector's item if you had that number and now it's a it's like heaven Jordans 45 days, you know, it's a now you'll have that for years to come when he's a Hall of Famer, hopefully and when everyone has everybody has all the other memorabilia like really really do you have a number 68 cemita birth? Made me happier than to see penis. Alaric's number getting taken out because I didn't I don't like Trent Frederic either but I at least can see the argument you people make Ford friend for I reckon by you. May I just made people who liked Ryan Friedrich. I myself do not love Shrek Fredrick. But as I said to Mark there's as much as I don't really like for me like for me. Yeah, he's big he's kind of like running them off. I'm still like the jury's out for me for him. But like I have left the pedestal are trained and never was on it but left it at the station and walked away about three years ago from that regardless of opening miles or anything else that happened. If you can't hack it you can't okay. I mean we all have eyes so that really made me happy to see his number was now you can't pop up on this number what that number may they don't want to give it and thought it was funny with mccaig because honestly, let's face it. Let's take a survey. That's my next stop whole how many of you could even identify mccaig before we picked him up this offseason. So he's God. T now I believe know about them that they had mccaig. That means caty Brett. Richie's going away to at least one of the Ritchie Brothers will be because that was his already gone know that I mean that was his number but at the same time I do it's going to be a long time. First of all, I'm never going to not think of Nate Horton for a while. I'm not it's no offense mccaig no matter how much you where aging I'm not going to remember you wore that about 12 months probably and Trend Frederick. You've got a lot like 11:00 to me is PJ axle sent just because we haven't had it. I mean sure there have been a number eleven but like for a long time a decade, you know, PJ axles and So where it well do the Jersey honor and on the neutral zone the way PJ axelsson used to just pick everyone's pocket and then maybe I will step onto the platform to maybe be on the page. That's all I ask. Okay where it well, I wonder where it if you want to be you know what I mean be the next person this generation will remember as wearing that Jersey, you know what I mean? But Mackenzie high expectations for a guy that's had a cup of coffee and still in an entry-level deal my friend. Yeah. I mean he eats only going to be able to use that number until they retire. Jimmy Hays is 11:00. So that's Thursday and it'll be short list. Yeah for sure Bobby Carpenter Steve Kasper a couple of good elevens, you know aunts and Carter know that's I mean, there's been other people like the last name. Oh my God, I cannot believe you just said Jimmy Hays. You just ruined my Sunday map Ira Hayes supercab award, but it's everyday is was the last to where it almost in almost wage. Almost took a with him, but I was too bad. But yeah, so now next item on the agenda John becher Bruins Prospect former first-round pick gets cut from wage World Junior USA team reports for that. He tested positive for covert. So he and his roommate believe were cut from the team. There are some other Bruins prospects on Thursday in the world junior squads as well, but it was disappointing for Beecher when it first came out. I thought boy that's odd because he made the team last time and he is you know regarding one of the better players on the team or performed one of the better players in the team and it was respected by his teammates, but then it came out just a little bit later that he had tested positive for covert and then maybe negative after that was some some misinformation and different information, but it's too bad for Beecher because I think personally that he'll be a decent middle six has a opportunity to be at home. Middle six for just from the clips I've seen and some of the information I've read about. I think he has some tools there but immediately fans get on when they first thought he was cut off Don Sweeney. Sweeney about his Drafting and it was just the perfect opportunity to do that. So has a we could start with you. It's disappointing for Beecher. I I happen to have some higher expectations for Beecher and hopefully they come true but I didn't know your thoughts on. Yeah, I like Beecher. I also don't think your whole think of all the great players that didn't make their World Junior Team or whatever think he's going to be. All right. Mark has been vehemently defending this on Twitter most of the morning and probably starting last night. I don't know when I turned my I have to shut my phone off. I won't get off at all. Just let's so I'm flick it on and I just from what I thought was that he got cut because they tested you know, so he didn't make the cut because of the cove at testing you automatically can't just like a couple of the young boys couldn't even go to Camp because of the whole covid-19 going on there. I think it sucks for him because apparently he had had two negative tests or something after but the fact is like with the date if the time it was a time cut, you know, it sucks. But I'm also not too worried about him because I think he'll be all right because I've like what I see and I do think he just to me we get these prospects and I and it's not in that like the Bruins mole, but kind of odd like we talked about before the draft right? There is also kind of a Bruins mold and I like what I see in John becher he reminds me of the people we think of when we think true blue Bruins kind of like just style like all around kind of person so it sucks for that but like the people like saying it's cuz he sucked us and that he was on the team last year, you know, so maybe he got caught because of tests or maybe he just barely didn't make the cut but Jesus get off his back man. Like, you know, he's he's a good player. I'm not upset. I mean I'm upset that he doesn't get to play but at the same time I don't want the whole team you had They did not get to play and spread it around for me. He would frostbite guys many of you guys know and obviously the panel here knows it was just a little disconcerning because some members of the Bruins fan base shot from the hip and and this is not just from one person. So please don't think you're getting targeted but it was more or less. It's a blanket statement because I've heard it all over I've gotten DMS about it and it's sad that you had to go from a hip shot dead to not like fully giving time to actually figure things out. You know what I mean? So yeah, it's just we're going to talk about it cuz we do have an Ask BNG later on. So yeah, I mean, I hope the best for my really do I really hope the best form in in in his health club. And everything like that, so but this is not a slap in the face to his development at all or progression in his development at all. He's a sophomore at the University of Michigan. I'm going to keep excelling and and you know, Matt sees him as a bottom-six. I kind of see him right there, but he has a projection of getting better and his development to possibly be a projected top-six forward in the Boston Bruins organization. Who knows but but to to just throw a dart out there and say that the Bruins reached on him after hearing news like that. It's just it's just shot from the hip kind of things and and kind of the thing that really aggravates me about about the social media and the media in general is just you know, the fire from the hip and and the reactionary to it is just kind of it's ridiculous. Give it some time figure it out, especially in these times when you can never know if it's if it's an actual injury off. Colvin related you really do have to do your due diligence and sit back and say I'm going to give this one an hour and then I'll tweak this out. So that's just me, but we'll talk about if we do have an ass p.m. Later on this topic, but I did want to save something for my boys over at it open change podcast. You know, I I yeah, I think people just love to feed their own agenda sometimes when they do things they immediately want to react and say Don Sweeney sucks at drafting and this is another prospect that we overrated and so forth and so on and maybe we have over 8, I don't know maybe he doesn't pan out to be much who knows. I don't know but I when I do know is that he's at Michigan he's producing, you know, he's a sophomore he's you know, he's a sophomore or yeah, and you know, he's he seems to have that size and some scale and some skating abilities got a really good berths in stride and you know for guy or kid with size and you know, they just continue to develop them. We'll see what happens after this year. Can you sign in another year or what he does but I think it's I think he has some some tools. It speaks also to the the amount of talent that the United States has now as far as American players Young American players that they can put together a squad and lose a guy like John be chair and still put out a really good product is one of the you know, one of the favorite teams and all those. Hi pic sand wage. Now the Bold he's and and those guys that are just really good talented players and years ago us would never be able to you know, cut a guy like John becher and maintain Talent. So it speaks to American Hockey in this, you know, the advances that have been there too. So that's a good sign for them. But I I'm like I like what I see from Beecher. I think it's very still out. But I think he's got a chance to be, you know, a decent contribute another two or three years or whatever to the Bruins and see see where it goes but it's a tough situation for him to log. To test positive and then get caught and the one good thing about is as long as College hockey remains during this covid-19. Maybe had issues and blah blah blah and I'm not saying concussions, but just thinking about everything that's going on. Everybody's going into the situation very day-to-day progression will day-to-day planning the NCAA. It's just you know, it's tough. The USHL is doing the same thing. They have games planned, but they they they canceled games or reschedule them because the cold bad stuff. So all this pays a heavy heavy weight on everybody's mind not just freaking sports people in sports players. It's it's it's on everybody so don't don't knock his point production right now because of what's going on. I think that he's still got a lot more to go. I mean look at his freshman year. I think he did really good in his first year of NCAA competition and you know, so that's just my thoughts. Yeah, I think Cole Caulfield actually who's a top prospect with the Canadians and widely regarded as a very good Prospect said that beach was one of the players to watch and he really like beats her a lot as a player so dead. And the key still has some good reputations coming from a guy from the another big pool. I know it or not, Wisconsin and Michigan they Wisconsin Michigan Canadians and Bruins. Yeah right wage, right they have everything going against them and he's still like speech her a lot. So I you know, I think I think we're still in good shape, but John Beach here. Hopefully next item Bruins r v most valuable franchise in the NHL according to Forbes Magazine not I guess no more. I think about it. I guess not a not a great surprise. I mean, it's a big Market team and they've had a lot of success and they have an owner with big big pockets. And well, he doesn't he doesn't typically go into them sometimes but he does have a lot of money and and I guess it I guess I can tag them more as a pack of 10, but V was V was pretty impressive. So I didn't know if in I know what people are going to say now that you know, they don't spend any money. That's why they have all this money and that's not true. That's not true. So stop. That's a that's a bad old tired narrative from the Harrison and days that's not true. But they are a very valuable franchise right now and in really good Financial standing so long. I didn't know what your thoughts are on on how what you thought of when you heard that they were fifth overall. Well, I'm just happy that they're not going under at least this year. They usually are one of our most probably cuz again, I mean the original six teams for of the well, actually, I guess they know all five of the teams are original sixteen. So I guess that's just branding and sucking in building your product over a hundred years, but it doesn't shock me of that money because the money doesn't the weird thing about the ironic thing is that the thing that makes the Jacobs family the least amount of money is the boss of all the things that they have in their portfolio, you know between the banking and you know, it's not like we like to remind people it's not just out the goddamn that he's losing revenue on the thing he his job. Company, they have almost every concession stand anywhere. You're going to go and need to buy a hotdog or whatever on any Stadium baseball football college on down at the same time. I just happy that well, if he's at high, at least we know that the Bruins aren't going to be we're not looking like where the coyotes we're not going to be able to get through this with the money wise. That doesn't mean they're not going to keep losing money. I mean no one's saying that but at least that's hopeful that our franchise might be able to make it through but if the lead doesn't make it through them, what the hell does it matter, right? So I just thought it was suggesting. I don't remember the order. I think it might I think it was Chicago Montreal Toronto arrangers Toronto Boston where the top five NHL franchises and I wasn't shocked because those are the type of jerseys that even if you're not a fan of them that you'll go the player that you like on their team, you'll specifically get you know, so and I just thought it was kind of interesting. Going to know at least five of the teams will probably make it through the pandemic will be back to the original 6 before you know it, you know stay with us Detroit stay with us. We're going to need to buy a lot of jerseys for your team this year those practice jerseys. Yeah, let's let's sell those texting practice jerseys. You could've bought ten years ago. We got there. So they have such a gorgeous logo to you know, maybe I'm biased cuz I was raised, you know, my father's family's from Detroit and they're all huge. I have more Stanley Cup crap from Detroit than I do from Boston at this point my life, you know kind of thing but why why why would you do that to them? They've had a long enough year? Why would you give them their minutes a signature? It's definitely a signature logo for sure and the in the league. I mean absolutely and I am I agree. Some of them are head-scratchers. I'm really I'm really starting to come around on the Bruins one. I'm getting past the eighties, you know, the Retro. Yep. Like I'm getting past the eighties thing cuz I really wanted the eighties thing. But now I'm getting past it. I've done pouting like it's fine. Okay, that's fine. I mean, I like the gold color. It's better than that yellow stuff in the late 90s would you know Jason Allison skating around and his Pooh bear that was nonsense, but but I do like wage do I do sort of like the the Retro Retro not as nice as the B&G Productions or not those those threats a killer sell $2,000 by one of our insurers. I know it then but I'm I'm I mean the Boston Jersey I encourage everyone to buy the black and gold jerseys. Yeah. I'm going to hold out that to 7 a.m. The sexy Colorado throwback nordiques jersey. That's that's a nice one. I do. Yeah my cup of tea. It's cuz I hate I can't yet with the yellow any shade of the yellow people like yeah, but you're a Bruins fan. Did I pick the song? Cuz if I did I'm pretty sure to be black on black. I'm just saying right before overall like overall. I think the Bruins fans are are lucky to have a team that's good Financial standing one of the top financials, you know standing teams in the in the league and they've actually done a really good job putting together a really great product over the last few years because again back in the even in the 9th these and you know, even in the late eighties when they were where were good. They always didn't seem to be good enough and and now they really make efforts to to put, you know, put a Stanley Cup Contender out there. And and I think it's for we're very fortunate people who remember those other days, you know, feel feel lucky that that they are able to have that means financially to go out and try to they need to spend the cap to try to win and they they've done that the last few years. So I think it's a really good thing for sure before we take a break go ahead Heather dead. I was just going to mention cuz I had just said nordiques. I wanted to mention that I saw a come through on Twitter that Pierre Lacroix who used to be a GM for is that what you're going to say? I wasn't going to say that no, but I did come up in my mentioned on Twitter too. Yeah, and he he passed away and I mean there's probably a lot of people don't necessarily know. I only really know him as the nordiques GM guy. I know he was a player before that and he was with the team when they moved to Colorado and got him established as the Avalanche and I just wanted to say thoughts and prayers to the family in the Colorado slash nordik universe and NHL and all the people that were affected with him and his life and was important to him. So thoughts and prayers to them. We I feel like we're losing a lot of people lately, you know, and I don't know that we're getting old have come on. Yeah. Yeah when you get older you that's one of the problems of getting older. Yeah. I just met in the NHL. Thank you for reminding me were all older. I am not the dog. I need another reminder to show let me know way to come out and say that you're the youngest on the put that on the agenda every week. But I just want before we take a break and here from the great. So next door just to touch on this thought object when these rankings come out. It's really important to understand that these are based on assets. So what the heck I'm not a business major or an economics major at all, but I know when I read an article from Forbes or anything like that, you you you find that fine details and stuff like this so long he is rated that as a ranking, but that's not what they bring in every year especially going through a pandemic. If you hate them, that's fine. If you like them, whatever you got you a Stanley Cup, whatever it's still a business. So these rankings are just you know, when he when when folks attack him for like, oh you you're worth this much and you can't pay that off. They really need to differentiate the idea of what he has in cash value and what he has in in real estate and business stuff and so on. So I think there's a big big mix-up when people think about that. Yeah, I think I think so too. I think yeah, I think that's a very good point in my people don't really understand what the what value and TJ. I think that's very very true statement company that I work for is worth two point nine billion dollars, and I know for a fact that that's all in assets and they said I'm not going to say the company but we do a ton of stuff for for Airlines and the airline business is as taken a dive. Yeah big time, but they still have do they still have the high-ranking of let's just say you lost a a couple so now you're worth 2.2 billion. It's all in like real estate, right and all your inventory for sure having these places think about that stuff and just say always get the money. They're billionaire. They don't have to worry about it, right you do. Yeah, I think you do and I think if after this season you really going to have to take a look at the financial standing of some of these teams going for cuz I think you'll see another year where salaries take another hit and guys will run for free agency after this coming year that you're going to see another trickle effect. Cuz I don't think it'll be repaired for another year or two after that depending on TV deals and not with a flat cap to end it with a flat cap and we're getting the crowds back in and all that. It's going to take a couple of years at least to rebound for some of those teams. So I think that's a very I was thinking the other day. I was wondering if maybe going forward were going to see a lot more pto's that if the money is not there if you're used to making Six Million Dead You can only get four million and it's not from a drop in your talent, but you can get some of these little leagues that you have to do. Really you get to basically kind of like Joe Thornton likes to do right? He's Joe Thornton. So of course, he's God does but just being Joe Thornton carries a lot of clout and can get him a good paycheck. You know what I mean makes you wonder if some of those like middle players that still have a lot of their career to go might not elect instead of sign free agency may take a year make a chunk and then come back and then take the pay cut on the NHL level. Hey One Last Thing Before we break boys. I just happened to look at charitable cuz I'm obsessive and I know it's all arbitrary and it goes up and down but this last night when I went to bed were at eighty-six and I was like, yeah and I had I think a damned you guys just say I'm so excited. We might stay in the 1200 all week. We are at number thirty-six again. So thank God who ever in the last 24 to 48 hours has been downloading without us. We're just recording the new podcast drop. So, although this will be tomorrow in the new one will drop or whatever when you hear it boys wage. Not Fifty slots overnight. Thank you very much. Whoever's out there that loves us. Boom. Shakalaka all around guys. That's awesome. 36 was the highest on Monday and then it fluctuates a little bit off awesome and we stay in the South funded. Also. I want to give a shout out to our boy Trent and he was the originator of the the Boston Bruins table hockey game. We had them on here as a guest, but I did fill out a little shot on the on the old Facebook and just say hm. I know a trio of Bruins media members I'd say we read you I consider that but I would I just do a shout out there that we'd all look pretty good in that game right next to Derek Sanderson off and John Cusack. So Fred Fred Fred Chelsea active fresh and he reached out and said he's on it. So wow we could hug. Of a trio black and gold hockey podcast could be sitting next to Legends legendary building. So that's awesome. Did you guys see the Luchador gotta got one thought that was funny. Yeah, so funny. I was so happy that they didn't put the meth bear on it. Yeah. I was like, yeah. No, I was very excited to see that. I was like, yeah kids in as I obviously like we'll see thing, but I'm just happy to even be like considered. I know we were joking when we had Mister be there on but I would die really appear Joy if like I see a picture and we're there cuz he's so crazy Bruins fan. I'm certainly not as crazy as they Luchador and you know the whole, you know, the Hogan's and of the world and ours Anna dudes or whatever else. I mean, I I would like to see if Trent is listening someone else who I am. Dancing guy with the crazy suit remember he was old hat any other thing. Yeah, like somehow if we could get an electronic dancing guy in there and honor of the original mustache dancer. So all right, that's it boys. That's exciting. 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They ship internationally, so please remember there's still enough time to get some some Christmas stuff by something up. There is for the great company and glad to have them with us and and and glad that they're doing so good that they're shipping internationally. So let's get back to the topics. I'm at home. Absolutely a shout out to Andrew raycroft for Bruins goaltender current nest and analysts. He helped deliver and her some holiday cheer and some trees to Hanscom Air Force Base and other example of the Bruins organization reaching out to the community, especially during this time and always nice to see is another Yeah, no, I that's why I just like sorry. I just wanted to make sure I had the viage he's out for after cuz I keep spacing out. I'm sorry Sunday morning practice. And I think it's we say we know everybody else is teams awesome and they have people go out there, but when you literally take We can't always just only care about what's going on with our veterans and soldiers and such when it's Veterans Day or Memorial and we always say that so like this is a big thing that the Bruins doing they donate so that the song everybody has a tree and things like that and this will just help distribute them and it was just like fun and they seem like they're having fun. He was hanging out with the boys down there for a while and going on and just another not for anything but I know raycroft went away, but he's back he's you know, he backed in that came back home to the fold. He's the Bruins guy again and just want to say shout out obviously to our troops home and abroad thank you for everything. You guys have the toughest job always but I'm sure in the climate in which you serve it is not exactly it's twice as hard to just kind of wage do what you do you up, you know you uphold this country you carry us on your back you protect us. So the rest of us can act like apparently lunatics on every corner of the world and wage. You guys and thank you raycroft and the Bruins for helping them with you know, spreading the joy, especially for the families that are home in their loved ones are abroad right going home. Absolutely and just dumped a lan what Heather was saying, you know Christmas is one of those holidays, you know along with Thanksgiving and so long way of family. It's it's Joseph Mater e to get together and be with one each other. We with one another but these soldiers that are fighting for our freedom on a daily basis without a care in the world. They have a job and they have a job. I know they do care but it's important to them to to know that cuz they I wish that everybody can come home for that one day and and be with family then depart after to go in return but unfortunately in times like this and and and since we've been a country and what year 1773 dead Technical information was 76. Yeah, technically 76 but we're technically haven't been an eighty-three filed 773 It Was preparing I mean it wasn't something in all of them about development. That's right. That's right development history lesson. I love Civics and seriously, it's just it's just it's not so much to me to be where I am sitting right now without and knowing that those guys are out there doing that. So no question still being a nation in 2073. That's real life. Hopefully along those same lines. Chris Wagner joined Sammy Davis and the Boston Pride the women's hockey team and taking the Polar Plunge challenge to benefit trf found something Polar Plunge just it just makes my blood temperature just drop just thinking about it, but it's nice to see, you know, the Bruins and the in the women's team get together and dead. I know had the big proponent of the women's program women's hockey and size to see the Bruins players join up with the bus and prize. Yeah over the last year. There's not that much hasn't been Mutual kind of, you know on board, but they are obviously different, you know, separate organizations. It's not like we've talked about this. It's not like the WNBA has you know, they're all paired with their wage. So rookie Sammy Davis. She took the 24 plunges in 24 days Channel, you know challenge people to do that and Chris Wagner got on board good Massachusetts boys supporting. I mean, they did me wrong. I agree with you about the polar plunge and I'm someone who likes cold. It doesn't bother me very much like even like yesterday. We're at the rink and everyone's like doing the like and I'm like it's not cold in here. Like what are you talking about? But it reminds me of when I was a kid. well, like a teenager and you're stupid and going swimming at Hampton Beach in February in my underclothes and If it's cold in June, how cold it is in February? So Bravo. Cuz they they do them often for many things. You know, I know they've done them for ALS and that's so good on both of them good on rookie making her name, you know out the gate giving back to the community and getting in the pride are very big on giving back. I know they do learn to skates and they do everything and just you know, whatever you could do to keep moving it forward, you know home and more off first round draft pick unbelievable. Wow, man out there. So and the girls have all been ramping up. Oh my God on the side note. Did you see the pride in Chicago has sex chat Patti djalal yesterday on Twitter. It was hilarious. You're pretty excited that only one when they were five teams in the league, whatever you want. It's funny until they finally gave old to go to their bedrooms by the end of your age that was funny. But no anyways good on them. It's always nice to see especially, you know, young players coming out, you know, no matter male-female, whatever and really dead. Coming Out Swinging to try be a representative and give back to the community and get on board with all of that and that just shows the solid human beings and that's what we like, right? We don't you can be solid on the ice. That's great, but we won't be solid human beings all around so much love to both of them and good luck. If you haven't already reached the 24 you probably have by now. I'm sure you've got to be able to do it with you but good luck on that and I hope it unfortunately, I don't think me and Matt are going to be two of the people know I'll be a spectator in that that one but but it's great to see and another quick bit about Boston Pride form of Pride play Idina Pang honors Travis, Roy enjoys a big idea research project as well. So another another great, you know, Boston Pride and I'm just sort of learning about the Boston Pride. I'll be honest since I joined BNG just sort of learning Boston Pride and what what their teams above what they do and who's involved with them and you're nothing but great job. Things from them and and hopefully when they get past covid-19 forth they can really continue to grow because I think it's great. They just great for women's hockey. I think it's great for the youth girls youth to stab a male some female role models and and hockey and they do some great things for sure. I was want to touch on the Boston Pride as well as the head coach by former Boston Bruins and long-time player palmeira, and and and I believe their organization is run by I think her name is Kathy Peach a pinch of guilt. He'll help ya is Kathy. Terrible Denis. I think it might be Karen the Karen. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. I'm so bad with names. I'm sorry if I hacked it if she's listening may be great. First of all most off while there's been hacking your name, but no, I mean just just I watch pretty much every game on Twitch last year. It was unbelievable. I'll be in here in the B&G office editing articles or doing some kind of authors. At it and I'd have that on on Twitch watching the games and very entertaining and I I really want to go and watch a live game. I have not done that yet. But by the way, if anybody wants to cover the Boston Pride for the black and gold hockey podcast or the black and gold hockey.com website and I would gladly buy a season ticket to have your ass in the seat if you can't log in as a media credential number, so that would be freaking opportunity. So we find the right person. We will do our best to kind of just keep the girls in the mentions the black and gold off. So I want our blood the same. So I want one of their black jerseys will have to get coach Meyer on and yeah, I was actually thinking that I wonder if before they took on Twitter, so I'll probably reach out to him. Yeah because they're they're Seasons, you know, they're going to the their Lake Placid not starts on the 25th of January thought maybe we could see, you know, maybe we can get a little But just generally but that leaves great. I mean they're so active on social media and they're all out there. And I mean just I don't know. Like I said again being old enough to remember when a lot of girls were told they could even play sports. You know what I mean? Like to see I love watching it's just grow everywhere, you know what I mean? And right until the Shadow by you and absolutely make you look like a fool. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, so that they're just great. They're awesome. But that sharpen yesterday. I was just I was couldn't The Lion King want to be like thing or whatever? Yeah. Oh cuz it all started over. Oh God. I think the riveters are something said like I'm trying to think of what ugly sweater to wear know. What was the Connecticut whale trying to think of what ugly sweater to wear for the holidays later and the pride said, let's help you out and put them on those sex on I'm sorry just still cracks me up because you know, what, I think is so funny cuz I mean and I'm sure I'll get slashed. I don't know you lived. Elseworld where I think I'm too old to be a modern woman, but you know because they'll have even I don't get mansplain two men get bitched slapped that they try to mansplain to me. I'm just saying like I don't need to like things like that. But God, it's nice to see women being able to be fun caddy. Like it's not often because we are inundated in a world where it's like reality T and all University is like wine induced like a girl got an extension drama-free coming out. Yeah. Yeah, it turns out women can share with the best of them and not have to be totally crazed lunatics about it to do hockey players. And I mean total total Boston attitude the pride and I love it. Nice nice girls. Good luck. I'm so excited that you guys are going back next item No Agenda the Providence Bruins where they might have to find a new home and I know Mark is a prospect guy or minor league hockey guy loves the passionately one of the details surrounding are some of them. The surrounding the Providence Bruins I wrote an article about this on Boston in black and gold hockey.com. I got a little tip from a very very reliable source that I'm so happy to have and I gotta tell you a hundred percent so far on every little tip that I've gotten. So let's see how this one rolls but the age L is just going through a really tough time right now and they even were pre They get members but you know as a medium member down there, I support them. I'm a huge fan of them and so on but a lot of the nights that it's just didn't see a log in a fans and I just the Providence Bruins are not owned by the Boston Bruins. It's just they're one of the 20 teams in the league that are independently run and it's a business and so on. I believe that owner LaRue Renfro Renfro is wrong. I mean the guy's a smart hockey guy and so on but he might want to like stop paying for certain things like overhead costs often does not own the provenance. I'm sorry, not the the Dunkin Donuts Center doesn't own that he rents that on every yearly basis to have his team go there and in covert time. It's very very hard to do because you need to pay rent even now it didn't contract. It's got to be you know what I mean? Sure save money off. What I'm hearing is that the Providence Bruins could possibly find a home in Marlborough, Massachusetts for the upcoming 2021 season for the covid-19. Don't pay rent over at the the Dunkin Donuts Center. Bring it closer to home. Nobody's going to be there anyway, so downsize down their biggest link and Marlboro at the New England Sports Center, which is a is one of the biggest facilities in North America and possibly could be the biggest facility in the world. Yeah is just a place that makes sense for a guy that doesn't want to pay rent anymore and have something on his own property and I hear him that he owns property around the New England Sports Center area that he can definitely build an arena that could hold three to five thousand seats off. Now here's another thing is I reached out and I did this article with with the wall of research and so on and reaching out to certain people I reached out the some American Hockey League writer and NHL writers. They both told me that is exactly what might be going on Mark. Is it happening? I can't tell you but it is making news that a lot of the NHL teams are going to start putting their development in front of business. So by doing that you're going to have to downsize on your Arenas and season ticket holders. And so I thought Thousand it's almost going to be like what's going on in the Canadian Juniors right now, right? Those facilities are only like three to five thousand some of them get to ten thousand, but there's they're very few and far between Palm right all arenas good ice and and listen for those that are saying no no, no right now. Laruan for all has a affiliation agreement with the Boston Bruins that doesn't mean that he's tied to Providence. He could move the team wherever he wants in the world. I know it's not going to happen, but he could make that happen as long as he has the adequate and approval status of home of the ice the training facility the locker room if the Boston Bruins sign off on that he can take him right there. Yeah. Yeah. I I think it's a pretty good idea. I mean I if you can downsize and reminds me of the up and here in Maine Lewiston colisee up here in Maine had Lewiston maineiacs for wildlife the Quebec Junior Hockey League. Now, they have another junior team. I remember Maniacs the Lewiston maineiacs and Sidney Crosby played against him over Mesquite Bernier one of my favorites. Jonathan Bernier played for the Maniacs absolutely goaltender. So it reminds me of that kind of venue. I think that's a good idea. I mean why not? I mean at this time, it might be a chance. Like you said look at developments Chad and and see if you can cut some costs and not only maybe cut costs now but make it so that he now has an asset that he can move on with and not have to rent and it's a long time maybe to position himself to do that. So I I would think it would be a smart one. Another thing that makes sense is is just cutting off the whole rent thing. It's like if if his team's not doing good and he's not selling a ton of tickets like possibly a a Max of five thousand. He has a ten ranked facility to back that whole thing up, right? He's not losing his freaking his ass just one thing. I just want to clarify on this is I've met so many dear hearted passionate Providence Bruins fans, and I probably listening to this right now after I wrote down, Article and I mentioned that I'm going to say this. Anyway my heart's with you because Providence is just a really good hockey Town Manchester mall in Manchester New Hampshire another solid hockey town that got ripped out. I feel it. I feel it but when it comes to business, I just think that the age L is going to be going down through an area where it's more development about development and less about the business and that's a that's a ride down while 140 that's not that far. Ma Broda Providence at all people. Maybe not if you need to call up, right sure and it's really not that far. If you are a Providence native and loved the Providence Bruins tickets to drive over there. It's not that far have you though you've been to that Park Avenue? I did I haven't been a lot like you I'm not a frequent flyer. But yeah, I've been down over there not for a lot of things. But yep. Don't know if it's designed though for like a perfect. You know what I mean? I know a gel does have a minimum where you can operate but for this upcoming season that might be waived you've just to get your team playing and so on and getting these games in and practicing and fell apply and kind of creating your own little type of bubble. Yeah, but I like that it's saving money and I think before when you were kind of in your research stage and had mentioned I said, you know, most people own swaths of land like that and if he doesn't eat maybe that's something that looks like the future having a different rank, you know what I mean and move permanently but I think for this year, especially with state borders, I mean, we can't even go visit Matt right now without them home. Yeah, you know let alone like right and this is part of the right is this part of the reason right? Like the Canadian division is happening. So like it does kind of make sense home. To move them to save the money and they are close enough. I guess that if had to be that the p-bruins who would then be the Marlboros really wage? It's only an hour, you know about 45 minutes, whatever our back to Boston. So I guess in essence they could also use the facilities that they have at the warrior Eye Center home cuz I was thinking of girls I know but I don't know. I think it's a good idea long-term. We'll see what happens. Like I said right now the age they'll just has to figure it out developmentally though cause I I think the age else should be about development and you hopefully you make money but and it's headed of date right now is is February 5th for them to come back now with now the NHL is looking at the 13th as we've talked about earlier in the show. So I wonder if if the if the NHL is solid and they do get back on the 13th of next month. Does that include oil? Is the a gel to want to get back closer to to have that feeder system. I think that the age she'll probably hold where they're at. But the interest in that kind of hard to figure out until the NHL decides what they're doing with the squad's. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know what you get verified extra of the Gods. Yeah so system to would work. Yeah, right. It may be that those people that are kind of a taxi Squad, you know that are going to be on sort of both teams say for in essence, they might head into camp and start the people who are real really really have a shot of maybe making the actual team, you know those top guys that if they're not on the team, you know, they'll be on the taxi Squad having them start up with the NHL in their training camps and then joined there a gel affiliate for when they are training camp start, you know, yep because if they if they don't start until later, but you want them in shape a little ahead of time. Obviously, but the reasons the call up, so I think that's going to be hard to call and tell the NHL figures out exactly what the heck they're going to need slash allow team could do that very could play with them. Also considering the call The Cup playoffs because you'll have one ahead of the other when when they're playing and if you need to call somebody up bam nice and seemed ready to go no, no down time or anything like that. Right? Very true next item on. The agenda. Another minor league is the ECHL course up here in Maine. They've decided to suck cancel the season but down South Jacksonville u c h l has started up into Bruins prospects. Kyle kinds of the goalie and Matt Philippe forward slash of begun and sent down there and assign there to play Kaiser play the other night. I like Philippe Philippe as an interesting case for me. He was a form of third round wage. The Hurricanes decided to go to college didn't sign the ELC. So they lost his rights and the Bruins signed him. He's a twenty-two-year-old played four years of college as an alternate, squid 75 points in his career at Northeastern. He's he's a he's sort of a Dark Horse type of prospect. I mean, I will see you in the next it'll probably have to show up in the next year or two if she really has a chance but I kind of am a little bit intrigued by him and Mark I didn't know your thoughts on Kaiser the other night and Philippe. Let's start with Philippe solid solid NCAA Prospect free agent signing. He has not been an action in the past two games. I think that possibly might be quarantining issues and might be in the action next weekend when they play I believe the Ole and our Solar Bears, but Kaiser got into action on Friday night after a long bath. Of concussion-related issues last season he I think he got into like two games six games with the Providence Bruins. Maybe know even less. Yeah, it was way less money and like one or two games with Atlanta and pretty much shut it down for the year. And that was actually his third concussion in a year. He had two concussions. He before when he was still playing with the Oshawa Generals, so and and and in that year with two concussions, he still put up a 38 and eight frigging record before leaving the home for professional hockey in the American Hockey League. So he's just going through a tough time right now and I the the affiliation are quote unquote. I'm doing it on on the on the YouTube version 2, it's not there's no Solid ground. There's an affiliation right now, but there might be an agreement to just have faith. Is there but they're also not labeled as loaned players to a certain team, which is intriguing to me that you didn't differentiate on the terminology of what it actually is off. You were either an agreement or you're not but regardless. You you still have some players there and you have some more coming. So you have Kyle Kyser and Matt filippi there and coming down the ropes after quarantine time a jackass on the defenseman from st. Cloud State NCAA. Torey. Krug prototype gotta love it for all the haters out there that that keeps I can say in that they don't want this to keep happening. But guess what the Bruins keep picking them up and signing them. So and he's do do go through his quarantining time and be awfully available by next weekend and and look for more more AHL players on to a deals that could also get time down in Jacksonville. So I expect this team to be better and with a friend said, let's go to Kyle Kyser. I think that it was a tough first game. I mean he played really well Square to the puck a lot had a Google of not-so-good glove but his athleticism is is sold their home his his reaction down low side to side lateral is is really there and this lot to work on so I think that with the AHL and what's going on and their day-to-day conversations off. I'm going to filter down as some people down the East Coast League that are going to need some time too. So I expect that team to be better and more structured in front of geyser to be a better a better goaltender May develop to increase his development so tough game for him. He gave up six I think six goals. I honestly I honestly watch a lot of the game but I'll just like there's no support for the kid. I'm going to move on to another Prospect cuz I have freaking nine TVs in this friggin office. So I just moved on to another one and just kind of you know focused my subject on I think Mason low-rise at night club So yeah, a lot of good things happening, but you know, we'll see what happens know. How did you see any thoughts on both of these guys? I'm just glad they have a place to go and play. Yeah, that's very true. You know what? I mean? That's apparently they're playing mostly with Nashville. I believe prospects down there cuz they need I think is it when a peg? Yeah Nashville's Nashville's was Atlanta. Oh, yeah. That's right. I'm sorry because they have the direct connection and we just I'm glad they have a spot to play because I like, you know, kind of you see, you know, he had his concussions. He's in the you know, he was making progress and he had you know, kind of got knocked back not looked like literally, you know, and just anything get getting them on there. But the biggest thing is I can think is isn't the ironic thing is the only hockey we definitely know might happen, you know on that level. It's like the cells hockey is back baby in New Jersey. All that's where they're all going to because they are the only ones playing Northeast half of the middle section of the country most of that. So weird whatever, you know with Toledo and all of them most of them elected not to play, you know what I mean? And some of them was still so yeah the whole North Division and with the age like we these guys that are you know, these players that are already kind of game systems and you know, it's nice that I mean if you have to make those rosters bigger to accommodate you just you hate to see people get a lost year and this year's been a lost year for most people just the way it rolled out whether you played college whether you played ECHL whether you OHL whatever, you know, go back everybody's development this year from my ties all the way through, you know, the professional leagues. It has been really stunted and not You can only practice so much in your own home and everyone's had different can ice skate like a rinks open where I'm from but what they've been closed most places and so that's having to see a place to be that's one thing about the fact that I love is like how centralized they are. And and and how they it really sucks to see Bridgeport 12 times. It really sucks to see forgan Springfield Mass times. But what that does is it creates a really locality of a schedule where you can travel and still practice on a daily basis. So as they're moving around they're also making plans to get ice time in certain areas. So they have one day off which is normally a Monday cuz they play Friday Saturday and Sunday have Monday off Tuesday's game somewhere to Wednesday skate somewhere and so on. It's just that's the way it works and down at that level. It's all about development. So you have to be moving your body all the time because you never know. We're going to get the recall. Next time on the agenda back to the big Club Noah hanifin trade rumors percolating. It's kind of like it. It's kind of like when you kick up some dust in your living room and it just took it just re-enters the air Noah hanifin trade rumors. Just keep coming up every three or four weeks and now Max Pacioretty has been a name knocked around now. I've been on the hand of Faith train, I think in a film would be a nice pickup. He has a affordable contract and they get 4.85 year and he's signed through I think twenty-four twenty-five. He's he's only twenty-three for BC kid. He could play the left side of McEvoy. I liked the idea. I don't know we'd have to get up for him and and all that and right now the money sort of tight. They're only about three and half million of cap space available. So forth and Chara still out there. So so who knows in that regard Max Patch already? I like Max Pacioretty dead. Now he's he's fine and he's you know pretty good player and probably put in there with krejci. I don't know what you'd have to give up or I don't know if I'm mortgaging, you know much of the future given Brandon Carlo from I don't know. I just maybe I haven't looked at it enough but I I'd much rather invest in Hannifin. I didn't know Mark your thoughts on on that. I like patches a lot. I really do. I'm not I'm not denying his his talent at all. I just don't think that he's the finisher that would excel in Boston and and the system that allows Bruce Cassidy is operating behind the bench. I think he excels better in a Pete Deboer system, which is more wide range right wide open but not so defensive. Right? Does that make any sense of it? Does it does I think that's the same that's the same hesitation I have is that I just don't see him as that, you know his linking up wage. And I think this time some patches is has been great and other times he hasn't been so great. And I don't I just see him as an inconsistent player coming to Boston and off another inconsistent player. That fans would get on and I don't know I just there's something about it. I don't like I can't really put my finger on it totally on that when you think well Matt does not need this Mark knows this that my love of Max Pacioretty is my dirty little secret even when he was almost drugs or whatever. I had that weird when I took him out I was so happy that happened then was seemed like all wrestling and like hit the turnbuckle bitch. Yeah. Let me just take a shower and I really was an advocate for getting him when he went to go leave Montreal. Now that ship's lifeboat. We can't you know, if we got to go bang for the buck. I don't disagree with you that the like I'm not sure this would be the best system for him, but Sometimes with individual like I think him and krejci together would be a very sexy combination of like just cuz crazy is kind of that slow it down wizard moving fast, but I'm going slow down slow it down can create the space and openness that even if the system itself isn't he tries to create that space try to do it for depressed and depressed sometimes stays on his feet and it works out and then sometimes it doesn't happen. But if you're going to go dollar-for-dollar and I and you had said how you you've been on that train a while. I'm here the conductor of the train you I am I've heard I've been paying more times like just off on this broadcasting before but yeah, I think if you're going to go dollar-for-dollar, they'll given the cap situation you're going to have to give up. I think Vegas made it clear because they were a lot of rumors going around about like teams a couple. I feel like we had our opportunity and we didn't pull the trigger on that, you know year ago, whatever so pound-for-pound elephant's going to give us more FAQ. Turn at this point cuz we're going to have to give up too much to even get past already just to see if it won't work out. You know what I mean, but I really do love him. And if for some reason he's willing to take three point eight million dollars off just getting what do we have left on Cavs Bay Street or something like that. I just wouldn't I just wouldn't give up Carlo for someone like Pacioretty. I mean, I just wouldn't I think that that's what you'd have to do. I mean, I don't see how they would offer any other way. I mean maybe to brush but I would figure that they'd want more than Nebraska. I mean is it take the bruskin lausanne? I don't know. I just I don't know. I just think that that's not enough of a needle over for me. I've you're right right. I just have this thing about Noah hanifin and what he could bring and I may be way off base. He may come here and suck and and all that but I just I just think would be a good fit. I don't think he's reached his potential yet. But he's only twenty-three, you know, he has some great tools and scalars a high draft pick like he's BC kids phone number. Is McAvoy, you know in this culture God? I don't know. I don't know. I just I like McAvoy pairing and a Carlo and how long do grizzly you'll get. There you go. Like that's now that's good. That makes me feel better like so I I just I don't know. I just am on the train and I don't know if it probably won't happen because the Bruins really have done a good job of throwing a bunch of rumors out there and deflecting the fact that they just not going to make any and I think that they suck of its sort of they throw the they throw a little nuggets out there for the media will run with it and speculate looking at the end of the day. Closing meetings. Yeah and freaking cam Nealy DoubleDown wage. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's almost like they didn't back it up. Right and it's almost like Jeremy Jacobs called them or Charlie Jacobs called them out down like whoa. Whoa, what are you saying? Cuz we can't do that. Look at the books. You can log. That and then they were like, okay, but they waited till after can had reiterated at all like not after when Dawn gave the Bowen said, hey whores later maybe not reinforce that they waited until both of them had done it and that was like, right. Well that was talking about is exactly the shot fired. We talked about a couple of weeks ago. That's the one you would use that Jesus guys. What are you doing right off? I think it's I think what happened at the end of the day was one the other teams really didn't value the Bruins players that they were offering as my other than maybe Carlo and I think that the Bruins are really hesitant to deal Carlo. Other than that, I don't think they have any prospects or any anything to really be high really wanted to join more. John more money is another case if you play a 56 Game season in John Moore has to play Forty forty. That's if they are if they aren't modifying that rule he's got to play the bulk of the SIM. And get him to the expansion list. Yep, like that's an interesting point like if they modify it, so now we'll drop it a 25 or something because you're not playing eighty-two then that'd be one thing but I think they're doing that. So this this is kind of shoots him in the foot. Like they have to make a decision on them. We have to play. Um, so maybe they play them on the 3rd. Cuz if we hockey there and you know, if a girl games of John more I lose my mind like what you can do is still take a loss and wave. Um, you could I mean you could take a loss to 275 is I know that contract and you're still going to be going to be capped when you pay him down there, right? Right. So I that's a that's a that's a that's an interesting nugget to watch. The season was how much they play them to see if they really want to get into that expansion list because it really hinders them because they don't have any two games instead of playing a half the year. They've got a play and you know 3 a.m. Is of the Year? Yep, and that's that's a big difference health field as well. I get clear. I don't have an issue with Halle phoen calories in the west team. I like to watch I've had you know, what kind of how you can have an issue with him coming here. It'd be different if Dougie Hamilton was still there and people talking about bringing him back here. I hate Dougie Hamilton. Yeah, but I'm not against the helephant trade. It just have a crush on wage get ready now, but I do think pound-for-pound halaven is definitely a better fit in the system as it comes and you know, I feel that's when I'm done grow until they're done growing and yeah, do you eat am elephant fried or baked with some ZD? It sounds like a fish they eat at dinner know, it's Hannifin what I say alafin. Yeah. So today is food. Oh my God, you're cracking me up keep saying that say something before I was off. Talk I know nevermind don't call me or no. No, it doesn't care. He's going to care if I say that when he gets here. You might want to come on now and correct you I know I know I have nothing to say your name, even though she believes come along the black and gold hockey podcast for Matt's birthday late birthday present. Yes explain to me why I can't say your name because every other time we've talked about him except for today. I have said his name, right? So, I'm sorry. That's all right from any Espionage case. We had one from the dump and change boy that yeah, of course, I pulled it up but then I did it but basically to sum it up. I'll pull it out boys. I don't want to disrespect but basically asked if now would beat your out with covid-19 worried about, you know, are you worried about his development or whatever you don't know what I do with that. I had them up but no. So that thing but because giant jerk, let me actually read them. Where are you dumping change boys? I have no idea. But that was that question. I was sorry. Sorry and she underscore change. You know, I love you guys very much. But that was basically a question would be trial with Kobe. Is that make you worried about development not playing in the World Junior Championships for me and I'm going to I'm sorry if I if you had an order but I'm just going to jump right in and say absolutely not he was on the program last season and didn't make it this year for obvious reasons the cold thing but even if he didn't get less even if it was no covert and he got cut off there's still no problem with his development. This is just something that will increase him to be better at folks. So many folks. Remember the Tyler Seguin got cut off. So right. Look what happened to him Stanley Cup champion and also pretty much have damn good goal-scorer regardless of his head issues and so on. So, I just think that folks just need Tube step back when you I mean right don't take a cut so bad. It's not going to affect the development that that much it really is not they're going to continue to go to school going to continue going to be a a wolverine under a very good coach Mel Pearson team and then sign his frigging entry level deal and do what he needs to do in the professional level weather in the AHL. I would like to see him in the AHL personally at least one year. I did they ask and then and then step into the NHL after that way, you know, so there's nothing we all we said earlier. He's probably projected as a bottom sucks, but you never know what you're going to have in and when he changes leagues and builds up more confidence and playing against men guys at a different age than not the eighteen to Twenty-One thousand. More than now the 18 so like the forties so you have to if I can adjust for something like that. So I I still think that he's going to be good. I think that he's just this is nothing to do with development. This is just 20 20 kicking everybody's nuts off the Lopes whatever you want to call them and and move on. You know, it's just no set back at all. Yeah. I know. I agree. I think he's a guy sock now. We'll never make the NHL him three other guys that got cut to it anybody else that got cut from their world junior rosters for covid-19 player, whatever they all suck. Well, it's it's off Tyler Seguin. He sucked. He definitely wasn't an overall, you know, whatever just stopped. He's twenty years old or whatever. He's going to motivate him to be awful and he did play in it last year. It's not like he hasn't had the experience. But let's face it. Like everybody can't make the team right? You know, I understand that. There's a whole generation that's been raised that everybody makes it off. And nobody's going to get cut ever cuz we have to worry about feelings not like, you know skill sets but these are not those kids. These are the kids that have grown up getting cut from teams or making teams. And if they get caught they figure out how to make the team the next time they walk right, you know, whatever. So, he's on a Powerhouse for college team. He's gonna be all right, like it's it's one week of their lives in the actual biggest thing of it is just the experience of playing with the world's other top prospects. You know what I mean? Like people out there mostly the NHL other NHL draft picks, you know what I mean? Whether they had they had the entry levels or not, but she's going to be all right, he's not going to stock he's going to be fine and he'll probably be on the squad and a couple of years just like on track like he should be right now. So Mark anything in this week in Bruins history. Yeah, I do and I'm going to use this one from Mike comido, and he's a fantastic writer follow him at Mike comido on Twitter. He wrote the book hockey 365 I hide dead. Suggest you get it great stocking stuffer folks to get it on Amazon. You can get it online just do a search in the search bar and do hockey 365. You'll figure it out off on this day on this particular day. We recording on December 13th Matt's birthday. Happy birthday brother. Yeah. Thank you in nineteen seventy in his office 279th game. Bobby Orr picked up his 300th Point. Wow, Joe Point. Holy smokes hashtag hockey 365 seriously go get this guy's book. He's got a fact for every day or many facts for every time I don't I'm not interrupt you a little segment Mark but I also saw today is the anniversary of a spell scoring IS300 goal or something like that. Oh my goodness I missed that was that we do maybe him there's a couple of them that I I didn't write down. I don't remember where I came from but I did see that earlier because someone had retweeted it and said It reminds me, you know, yeah a small school wasn't worried about that of course numbers were ludicrous his church. 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Quim with Cyo Ray Nystrom

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Quim with Cyo Ray Nystrom

"Stories and natural you do Butte you know hey I'm very excited to speak with her. She is a cannabis entrepreneur she is a vaginal wellness enthusiast I just found out that matching is her love language up before we hit record please welcome Kyle Rae Nystroem it is I I am here thank you so much for being here you came down from the Bay I would say my skin is flaky sometimes sometimes it's greasy standard answer and Greece cookie southern aunt welcome to match butte here on Ashby we cover all things beauty wellness self care we get a little funny we get a little real and my guest Cayo rain ice from Kyle like coyote minus the Odi Ray like a ray of light nystroem which is Swedish for new storm and according to my mother and she is the CO founder of Quim Quim is a plant based vaginal wellness company products are the love of China's okay because we're here to discuss badging She looked at me like she she was like I don't know I was like what do you mean you're a skincare enthusiasts specialists L. Today we're here to discuss sustainable ways to care for of China's we're here to discuss Canada's CBD we might even talk about vaping because it's already see ya but like not super sensitive skin yeah fair all put anything on my face once or twice same literally main does I've got one of those names that just screams were your parents doing drugs yes you know yes they were I think my full name I've been trying to figure out what kind of skin I have I was actually at the Indy beauty showcasing New York I was walking around with Rio Amazing beauty the woman who I've been trying to answer I'm sorry I do that thing where I've got that you've got an accent now parrot I understand you know is everything and I asked some lady who is giving away you know masks she looked at Rio and she's like here's the one you need and I was like what do I need help me out and she was like early anything okay love that my second question is what type of name do you have I just added this because you told me that your full name means something and I want to know what is the national we kept it small today but you know what it's not a small APP I felt that intro was fitting for the subject matter and my guest I'm vape forward okay how yes out and proud mountain proud me and module yeah love that okay the Coyote yes I knew it was actually the name was bestowed upon me when my mother was pregnant and was getting ready to name me Chutney so really dodged it just popped on down you're wearing a very chic jumper and you've been vaping and we had a whole discussion about Oh we don't WanNa talk about that we my name means along Ray of light in a new storm in what language don't dig too much beneath the surface you just got it you just gotTa let him play that's all Mama said at me Obiang's around now I'm in that awkward stage but I'm not going to bail them and keep going out you know what I mean I'm doing my best I'm also your favorite over thirty niche influencer and welcome to Nash boot if this is your first episode welcome my name is Jackie Jay on the beauty talk shock Jock Queenie creams your host with most serum suppressed his friends on the west coast even though growing up pregnant and said you're having a girl her name is Cayo my mom wakes up the next morning starts telling everyone I'm having a baby girl and I'm naming her coyote grandma comes back you've been here I have some intro questions lease my first question I asked everybody on Ashby is what type of skinned do you have that it's an amazing question and one I myself there could have been Chutney remember chatting on legally blonde absolutely I mean that could have been you perm that's true I'm so happy you know ask me that made my heart sing I mean really dodgeball at their my great-grandmother came hood died many many years ago came to my mother in a dream when she was Flynn Vagina okay trifling Jain heavy trifling visine you know I would love it to be a platinum version but it's a trifling machine I love that super susceptible to ut is yeast infections bv pain all of it all of the women in my family are super susceptible to ut is in Houston factions my sisters had sex for the first time I played water polo in high school so I was always in a wet bathing suit and I just got my first. Uti it turned into a kidney infection genesis it is just you know it's part of our family history yeah and yeah I started I got my first. Ut I like the week I the last question is favorite thing about yourself Ooh I mean I like a lot of things about myself that's good favorite thing about myself like romantic personal what what have you none of us are you know I shouldn't say none of us I'm not psychic I want I cannot anticipate all of your needs what I can do is show up with my needs ask you to meet them and then know that you will make your decision with all all or wherever you can do you need a new best friend I will love to be arrest good skill and that's the kind of person I'm looking for right now in my life all of the information you need so you don't have to assume or think like oh I think Kaya wants this so I'm going to do this all you what I want and then meet me in the Middle Balch also not spelt so yeah just a lifelong you know I have a lifetime full of being called Cayo. CEO Sil- I totally get that my most valuable skill is I'm not afraid to ask for what I want because I firmly believe that like to love me or to be in relationship with me whether it's business right because your name is spelled Cyo and Athlete Youth Organization. I would not have expected coyotes pronunciation no I would've thought it would be like CIO CIO yeah Komo says marinating all of your vaginal flora right it's just like really cooking up like a slow I went to school in the south had to go through two rounds of antibiotics I was seventeen I was in the hospital and of course when finally those antibiotics worked it wiped my body of all the backdoor okay I showed my kids as well okay let's talk about Quinn because you founded a plant based vaginal wellness company and which is cool what's the mood sure are while I had to clear that up okay my second question this is a new question specific for you type of giant do you have I have a tree also you know in case I needed an excuse to keep spending money on bathing suits it's like I put it on I get wet and then change out of it right so I have to Walk Zoo but knowing what I want is actually it's it's pretty easy and I'm not afraid to ask for it because people can always say no and that's on you I know so much about you but kyle we have more to cover so what's your favorite thing about you well I leave that question up for interpretation what they look right hind tight Ooh Itty bitty titty committee looking tight day and do we do our best I have my third love Braun Honey yes oh me too p after no no one tells you that you should change out of your spandex leggings after soul cycle and not go hang out at Brunch and drink aperture in that I'm very you know when I am traveling in Humid climes fallen commando yeah he just fully let it be Korea and then guess what I got a East in fact and that started like an eight year cycle of ut infection UTA use infection and of course I was quim and taking back the words of that have you know words that have been used to put a certain group of people down we are part of a rich tradition of people taking be a physical thing it could be a I've got great tits also yes honey okay I see you yeah I just did a brawl Oh okay getting your titties suv from Somerset England let me tell you why is it that you find this offensive what is so bad about being what is so bad about being called a giant yeah right it's literally life-giving organ or if you don't WanNa have babies it's still an organ that can give pleasure joy and honestly sticks with truly easy for me plenty of things are not naturally easy for me writing an email not not getting through my to do list like I have. Add up the in college diagnostic body generally I got my first ut I in college it's a special time for vaginal health and no one tells you know century England Victorian slaying for Kant okay which I mean Vagina Vulva what have you but it was a derogatory derogatory slang I'm here for this we talk about I prefer the word Pussy Pussy easily right off my town everybody has their term their word I never heard the word Quim it's so good what is it mean tell everybody so quim is this amazing archaic slang and it's from seventeen who story behind how you got into cannabis is so interesting it started very young you were a little girl why don't you just tell us a little bit about that like please ladies I implore you to change the name of your company like doomed you know how offensive this is and I love getting those emails because I'm like Oh the I think that I know what I want and I it doesn't bother me asking for that's such a skill a really isn't I think it's it's probably old excuse me my mom is an alternative healer and we were talking about these kind of things and yet even in this super supportive alternative health sex positive household the sun you know I'll ask you can tell me no it's not my problem if you have a hard time saying no to People Nah Nah okay that was great I feel like yeah so I mean as I said earlier got that I you ti when I was about seventeen years old that started this cycle of UTA yeast infection UTA yeast infection and whatever it's empowering for you yeah but you know let's let's just see what comes out of us for this conversation but you are an entrepreneur And I think I was terrified that someone's GonNa find out like on my when I was in college someone's going to find out like I was like Oh that girls like yeasty right like she's always dealing with the they would call women that are they would refer to China's at both I mean you know I think in Victorian England like you weren't really calling women concert right the next night just like not Cayo Cody you idiot Cayo and my mom is dyslexic and so she spelled it what the way I think she thought Coyote was if you now and I'm working on that myself it's not easy for a lot of us to ask for what we want you know it's really not ending on how you're raised I mean I think it's it is I percents people when you get into like Peri menopausal years because vaginal dryness becomes a much bigger issue the most widely available lubes and commonly purchased or Glycerin base us and like I don't know a lot of things that can bleed every month and Dodi that's pretty fucking cool claims are warriors exactly g warrior that's true hear that new just be so grossed out the first time you get a yeast infection you're like oh my God this discharge is some they don't tell you is that glycerin as a metabolic byproduct of sugar so if you have like a low level you have low level BV or Candle Ish Down There I to Zeki from my like I don't know it's just weird but I'll try anything 'cause you're desperate yeah and also like I was in college I was trump thing it was I remember minds what it's stinky like it is grow I remember being very it was like I felt like a doe factory like your summer's Eve your douching God forbid those will lead to a proliferation of bacteria it'll move whatever infection was happening in the vagina up into the urinary tract I was having all these issues I was spending a lot of time on like the weirdest corners the Internet you know you go to those websites where like they're still playing Bob Marley background they've got like a Yin Yang it's not it's not a shopping problem it's hell it's I yield spouse yes well that was a very thorough answer and I appreciate right you just sent all of that bacteria fungus to the all you can eat buffet yeah and so now you've got some discomfort and then the products that we've been like socialized to clean ourselves with you know somewhere along that path I in feeling incredibly you know in shame around these health issues I was raised in a very sex positive household we were in it and all that and it was just fucked up and I was every summer I'd come home back to the bay area whereas from and I'd like spend so much time at all that's your astro glad you're Ky. those are the ones that are at like grocery store she said it again if you're fucking Ohio anywhere but try this tea tree suppositories and I was like cool great bought a pack they saved me they really really helped but this was this is back when Amazon was selling mostly books Brad companies started with my vaginal yeast Oh God farm to table Oh my God this is so funny okay so yes you were having issues and so it sends you right back to like the Kyi that got you here in the first place like over fifty percent of people with China's want US entering sex that number goes up to like about seventy five put a clove of garlic in your vagina and only drink apple cider vinegar for six months I sat in a tub of apple cider vinegar want stab when my pussy back those words and saying you know what what is so awful about being called a quim arrived or a life giving organ can contract like on all your visa and so I try to find them on Amazon I couldn't find them anywhere as like fuck it I can make these myself I can order some candy trays online and bless your give life gift so much like why you know every every few weeks to get some really hopped up e an email from some hopped up British lady three legs so they really need me fully codependent dogs I've practiced radical codependence And so yeah I tried this other candidates doesn't look at her vagina maybe ever he's Never Yoni gays yes which is a powerful thing I encourage everyone to do I was dubious I but gazing upon it I I any fifteen someone gave me a bottle of cannabis infused lubricant and I was like Holy Shit my two favorite things I'm John and I I should say suppositories and vitamin E. and like a few other things I was able to like decrease the urgency and intensity or on the cycle and then maybe like twenty four teams No I was like Oh this I didn't sign up for this job that's my sour dough starter inks that's going to be that's our it's our second or third business is actually a sour just cook something up in my kitchen I mean it went horribly awry the fuse I I'm not a particularly detail oriented person so you know wasn't exactly thanks but I felt like a salad I felt like I was marinating a Tofu rap totally and then you put the yogurt and then you're like diy. I used to really look at my my whole life I was always really curious I yeah I mean I think like Yeah Drinking Miller lite my second guest ever to drink I was it's like the graphics are moving all those go city's website exactly Yeah exactly so I was going on these websites now all these which he women being like creation or are they medicinal I'm just like guys it's sex it's both like wellness isn't medicinal or recreational like this it's non as lubricant I was really excited about it took me a few times to get it to work and it seemed to me when like interacting with the product that whoever had designed it or I was spending so much like you know a monastery at a month or Ryan can't be good because monastery the ingredients and monastery super drying circle of it's an oral boroughs of it it's just this off and I you know and so designees yeah she's the girl watch out and yeah just had so much shame around it and like in that process I feel like you growing up I feel like you would Mary it has to be about how to integrate these things into your life fully and not just in like a medicinal or recreational way so I tried this one turn it of health stores and like talking to the witchy lady in the vitamin I don't mean like lady like what do I do about US stand on your head during right like you know it took me a few times to get to work get it to work but then I had a mind shattering orgasm and I was like okay okay okay there's some we can take this further Taua now you have a uti now you gotta go on antibiotics now you got the now you're definitely going to east infection now you're on the monster monster that's GonNa dry you out and it sets you back to the okay well that doesn't exactly make for a scalable process yes so God bless her but yeah and that's how we that's how we got kicked off I mean sounds pretty bad ass it's not just about increased sexual pleasure increase lubrication better climaxes you know we're living in this increase sex positivity everyone wants to I've been tracking stuff but I you know I was able to make something eventually that worked for me a little bit and then a few years after that I was like finally able to like with teacher it's Tuesday in this we'll be Thursday so everybody be confused everyone get crazy now so yeah I tried it it was clear that rush better I mean let's go down the things we like there's lots of different things if you ask your Dennis they're going to tell you it's less about the brush and more about how you use like looked the ingredients I was like oh I can make that I think I can do that. Yeah I'd found these other ingredients that were really helpful for keeping you ties in yeast infections away and we just are a couple of years before I brought in my business partner who is shot out to reach awash teen she's the only reason she gets done. A CASA DI quim a lot of big ideas visit which is why it was created by Dennis and product designers to focus on what actually matters for your oral health which is healthier habits even tried a few tooling up yeah and that's what happened with Clinton exactly and that's what happened I mean really I was mixing these up in my kitchen for hi honey let's talk about quip do you got one yet if you don't today might be your down ously what makes a tooth maybe didn't have a vagina that's true for the cannabis industry and that's true I imagine the mail care like Oh you know you look at the Board of John I don't mind me first time has been set on our don't know I mean it's fine we I don't mind come forward but you know we're part of you know favorite thing about quip is it a sensitive rations and there's a built in timer so all you do is hit the button and you're going to brush your teeth for a full two minutes and every thirty seconds for the brush heads to you every three months which is what the dentist tells us we should be doing okay so it makes it very easy and convenient and honestly fun to have Healthier Orel talk about Paul Marie Your Fun Kink Party the thing is if you have had recurrent yeast infection for six years it doesn't matter how Funky the play party there's a little pulse so that you not move it to the other side other quadrant of your mouth so you're going to get an even clean and the other favorite part about quip is that they automatically aging your exact sage about whole like really my butthole needs sage inches like it all starts in the butthole and she this lady was like oh in Johnson or proctor and gamble or Unilever like one vaginal so does not use the word posting Gino's that we want to work out move our bodies but also look good and we want trendy stylish Jim closed its price affordably and just twenty five dollars and you're going to get your first refill pack for free at get quip dot com slash natch this is simple way to support niche butte and reprint bright colors they have so many sizes they have photos of actual customers in the close so you can see that totally looks like me I'm totally buying that size style pop quiz and then they're going to recommend outfits for you now they nailed it for me I filled out my quiz and all of a sudden all these cute outfits popped up little two piece sets we buy it Kate Hudson made it easy because fabrics came to the rescue Feb lettuce creates clothing that's made to inspire physical activity any type of setting fabrics always aims works. 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Week 0 College Football Preview with Thor Nystrom of Rotoworld

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Week 0 College Football Preview with Thor Nystrom of Rotoworld

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Let's do it absolutely oh man thirsty thursday. I guess we'll we'll call it here for the show and <hes> now that that awful joke is out of the way i gotta ask man you know. I've been kind of checking in with everybody. I know we had you on the show once late last year. <hes> you know as far there's your summer. I mean do you even get one or you just nose to the grindstone with college football all the time yeah college football and did a lot of n._f._l. Draft stuff this summer to we ran through every position on offense you know through through the summer so i was dived into the quarterback for the two thousand twenty class receivers that that offensive guard you know the the senators and everything like that and then of course doing my research for the season so i'll tell you what adam i. My first love is college football of the n._f._l. Draft and my third aside love of is betting on college football so i'm very excited that the games are about to start again. We can stop talking about theoretical prospects or whatever or <hes> you know just sort of thinking about the hypothetical terms. I i can't wait for saturday. We have two very very fun games on tap. Yeah we really do a lot of fun games on tap for weeks zero and then of course week one has has its fair share of intrigue as well. Maybe not as many national games this people would want but a lot of interesting games from a betting standpoint to be sure and i do want to start with is this because you've got a different background relative to a lot of the other guests and we're having a show that professional handicappers that do a lot with power ratings and they're working on this stuff throughout throughout the summer months. You know a lot about the personnel so i'm really curious to find out is how do you adapt your knowledge of the personnel to the betting side of the spectrum and be able to organize your thoughts that way yes so you know as a as adam always i listened to the book all the time <hes> i. I am looking for information all the time. I'm looking to accrue you know all of that from a handicapping aspect <hes> as much data as i can so in my process it sort of begins with the sort of analytical side of it you know where where i sat and adjusted line of my own to begin the week and i have a justice for that line during the week based on certain like market indicators you know such as like the moves or discrepancies in tickets bought against money wagered which is another indicator of of of of the sharp side or potential indicator of that so i i have these these these five six seven little indicators that i will allow to modify the lines as the week goes you know depending on the way that the market on that so i start with that sort of baseline and and then adam what you're referring to is yeah i i watch as much college football as anyone. I know you know i i because for work you know i cover college football and so <hes> i watch all the games i cover all the teams year round and so that part of it i have to bake in. I can't just be an analytical indicators. Not me first of all you know to go all the way with that but second of all i i do bring that other thing to the table and so my my approach it's sorta tries to blend those two things together where there's sort of like half analytical siding sort of like i have old school grinding the tape i suppose you could say kind of style and when those two sides of my brain sort of are both seeing the game era specific game specific match up in the same way. That's what i'm gonna sort of float up on that game so that's how we do the process well so with the personnel. No i mean are you constructing power innings the same way in which most of us do by kind of breaking down the position groups or are you just you're looking at a game by game basis and saying i know there are a matchup advantages here at positions x y and z because you know the personnel or is it. You know do you put that into. Maybe quantify the value of that personnel well yeah. I do but yeah for me the way that my process goes. That's more art to it. You know i know some people they try to quantify that more scientifically by by doing the poll ratings. You know we're we're. That's how they do it for me. Even you know as closely as i followed the sport the way that i see it is i you know even though i'm watching a ton of you know i i have man man have like six screens going in every time slot so you know i sort of have like a mini feel filthy all kind of a setup but still not able to watch every game right and so it it i don't feel comfortable of sort of adjusting ball state's offense of wind power rating or you know armies linebackers or whatever and so for me. It's it's more about when i have that background on the team when i have seen them you know when i do have that kind of information obviously i have you know returning starters and i i have data like that but as far as really feel like i can add something to that conversation <hes> i need to have seen it and have a feeling about that and then that's when i'll bake that in on the latter half of my process i i already have the numbers the data you know with these headlines and stuff that are already these other you know systems and stuff like that are already bake and stuff like that in and so when i can bring something else in extra extra to find try to find an edge you know <hes> separate from that you know looking at that from the outside or whatever that's where all come in with that but yeah i mean it's it's. It's so no important. I i feel like you know to to bake in those matchups because you can find a lot of edges in that and sometimes they're they're edges that other people aren't seeing you know even if you're you're you know you have a premium subscription or you. You know you listen to a lot of different pockets. There's certain things that people can miss just because in college football. You don't have to disclose the injury information you know. A lot of that stuff is out. There and there's not as much media coverage the n._f._l. So it's really a sport where you can win by the more homework than you do. So i try to as much second well and and something else i wanna touch on here and and this is something that you know i think a lot of us kind of have our arbitrary values for coaches and coordinators and things like that. We know who's a pretty good coach coach. Maybe some people attempt to quantify it based on record against the spread or you know how they do as a favorite holiday do as a dog something like that but with studying of that personnel fennell i think almost by proxy it fills you in more on the coaches and the schemes and how the personnel fits with what the coach wants to do. I think that can can be really advantageous as well. I yeah i i agree yeah you. Both i mean that it gives an indicator of the direction of the program and also the skills. Which is you know for instance like last year you know f._s._u. Willie taggart's first year as an abject disaster right that was kind of a joke but the reason was because they're terrible offensive line and and that goes back to the last coach. Mr jimbo fisher took a bunch of high risk flyers on hi four star offensive linemen that were complete projects. They didn't develop any of them. You know whether that that was because of apathy just as far as the coaching staff or whether they just misfired in the recruiting process where these guys that were never gonna pay out but they happen to be big and moved pretty fluidly but they they just weren't football players. They take chances on those guys and you know it. It caused the program to really regret and jimbo got out of there and really take it's going to have to kind of clean up the mess but yet different stuff with miami and their quarterbacks. We're gonna be talking about miami here in a little bit but the way that that miami's recruited quarterbacks the sort of the type of quarterback that they have they have gone on after and then the lack of development of those kind of quarterbacks. Obviously that's what ended mark ricks time there <hes> we're going to see if mr yes can come in from the defensive side and and fix except with urine williams <hes>. That's gonna be fascinating to see on saturday. Cut man is miami out on a limb for making that decision for reasons that we'll get into. I'm sure he didn't a little bit here. Yeah those things are super important. Adam and they're things that i think about sort of endlessly you know. There are things that just sort of fascinated me program direction what who coaches target how they develop up those guys the systems that they use them in. Why does it work. Why does it not work etc cetera well and it should make for a lot of interesting discussion here over the course of the season and i guess we'll go ahead and apply some of this to these games that are coming up here this weekend and give people we'll have a tangible idea of you know what it is that you're using all of your information and and research for deemed to ninety-one ninety-two florida miami again miami going with jared williams and on one hand you look at this and say well shit. The bar is so low at miami for quarterback play right now anyway. It's hard to see this guy being any worse than they had last year or any worse than what they would have had with tape martell on the other side. You can look at it and say well. Maybe this guy fits danny and that's who isn't very respected offense out there. Maybe this is the right type of guy to go up against instead ford a defense. We don't have a lot of tape on jared williams. Neither do the gators so what what's your thought process for this game. Yeah i yeah i i agree that i think the gators don't and also something that i would tell people. Is you know i've seen miami. Get a lot of heat for their their decision to go with williams specifically overtake martell lt mortels just the people the guy that people know right. He had a very high recruiting rating. He was on that that television show. I don't know if it was on amazon or hulu or one of them or whatever i caught a couple couple episodes but didn't didn't get all the way to the end but he was on that you know he's been at ohio state. He's been in the public consciousness. He's got a big personality so when miami you know went out and inside him and it was it was a bilo signing. You know it's it's nothing you know. It's like in in baseball. You know you have a you know a reliever who before was closer and you know he's sort of struggled or whatever but you have the name in behind him you know just sort of buying low like at the trade deadline on a guy like that or whatever ohio state didn't want him. You know i always go. They could not have been more aggressive going after <unk> justin field and i don't think they could have been more aggressive and talented martell you can hit the road jack and so my emmy comes in and they they signed him again for me. It was a lower signing you you know i i i know that he has the big recruiting hype and it got the fans excited and everything like that but for me. It was more of a depth thing you know. I it was getting another cook in the kitchen but ah i'll tell you this. I trusted you know as far as like a an indicator of the future something that has predictive value. I trusted ohio state. Apathy you know as far as when martel tell was leaving you know just okay you can go over <hes> take. Mark tells recruiting clips whereas i think the miami fan base was was was sort of focusing on on his recruiting being hype over you know ohio state sort of telling him to go even though he'd been in the building for a while there so you know as far as that i i didn't get super hyped about that and frankly to me the fact that miami staff you not only admitted that nicosea with the decision not only sort of admitted that mukasey perry is a developmental failure you know it sort of seems like they're pulling william o'clock on that but also that they admitted to the mistake of signing tomorrow on it not that it was a mistake but just as far as anyone that thought that he was going to be a starter just sort of coming out and he that's not what he's going to be going with. Aaron williams going with urine williams to me. That was the hardest of the three decisions. I i think the the easiest thing for miami to done what had been just a rollout tate martell regardless of how well because the fans would have loved it heading into the week now obviously if he got eaten alive by life ah florida's defensive perceptions have changed or whatever but you know in these last couple of weeks leading up to the opener. I think that was the one thing that you know by buffet. Baby were dot rooting for was adjourned williams winning the job but to me. That is a good sign. I it shows me that many d._s. Is doing things the right way. He you know he's he's not like focused on short-term. Things is or perception of the fan base etcetera <hes> he's focused on trying to win games and his opinion journal williams is going to give them the best chance of winning now like you said we haven't seen a lot of darren williams so who knows journals williams could be elite grows year two point oh or he could be <hes> you know because it's possible but the fact that the coaching staff chose him over to auctions it would have been easier to present to the fan base heading into the opener to me again. It's one of those things that it's just a little bit telling a little bit indicative in in in in it's. I think it's a positive sign. <hes> the kids got tools. He was a four star. I think he was the one hundred sixth player in the e._s._p._n. Three hundred in his class the well he's been we haven't heard about him is again. Believe grows year and then nikolsky perry was the guy that was seen as the parents and then after that they went out and got ta martell so the reason you know williams hasn't been in the public conscious. It's just because of that. You know there's always been other guys to talk about. That doesn't mean that the kid can't play. I mean he was ballyhoo top. One hundred and fifty consensus recruit recruit <hes>. I'm very curious to see the way that he plays but again. I'm i'm more optimistic on this news heading into the opener then i am pessimistic well. I think what's intriguing about this game. In particular is that philippi franks did improve last year and one of the reasons why i lean forward. I'm not going to take forward in this game. It's right on the the paul ratings number that i have one of the reasons i lean florida is because i anticipate a guy like dan mullen to continue that development pass four fully bay franks. I have no idea what journal looks like in this game. I have no idea when you're lou. Williams looks like for twenty nineteen but i'm still not going to go out there and bet it because you're only it was one the a job as you mentioned. I mean. This is a guy that went with. Maybe he wanted the job by default. 'cause martell didn't look very good but he still won the job in a spot where the optics of the decision. We're a little bit challenging as you just mentioned so maybe williams does go out there and have a day and it doesn't support a defense as i talked about previous with brad powers hours. I'm wondering what happens to the perception of miami at that point who does play a pretty weak schedule is pretty good at the skill. Positions is always good on defense this. This was the as his defense last year. If darren williams plays well all of a sudden ceiling for miami is dramatically different. I'm kind of rooting for that. Chaos to be totally honest is with you one hundred percent yeah and and and you said it <hes> miami schedules banks. You know there's so many of these like title contenders that are playing like these really hard schedules and those is it. The teams that a lot of people are betting on to win the title. You know these are just brutal schedules. You know if you're looking at some of those futures for me. I'm not betting on a you know. I'm not in alabama obama to win the title or you know stuff like that. I'm just looking to make a couple long-shot flyers and yeah miami's in that discussion because what if you're and williams is good what i mean what am people aren't talking about this. What if he's good you know. We haven't seen miami have a good quarterback for for a little while so i doubt your brain to sorta wants to say it's it's gonna be roggio. It's gonna be parallel ever again but what if he is good and like you said if he is that ceiling goes from like you know they're probably gonna have an eight and four season. That's going to be super. Duper borings to could make the playoffs right because like if they beat florida here in the opener that you're talking about this gauntlet u._n._c. et cetera et cetera michigan you know they have to play virginia tech with that. They they host virginia tech then virginia georgia tech pit f._s._u. Florida international and then duke folks that is miami scheduled this year if they can come out and upset florida and the opener they are l. Legitimate playoff contender in june because of the schedule you know that's just what it is so if you wanna get a future bed in on on miami debate the playoff or to with the title you want to go really really long shot i do. I think it's going to happen no not necessarily but if they win this game they are in a very very good position where they're going to be favored in pertinent every game down the stretch well and this is one of those things right. Now i have miami power to seventy eight and then the number twenty six team in my power ratings although effectively tied for the twenty fourth of washington state and florida state if jerry williams is that dude and they're just running through the a._c._c. that number clemson's maybe ten or eleven in the a._c._c. championship game for me <hes> so it's not a ridiculous hedge to hedge against a playoff future or national championship future because they're probably not going to beat clemson but at least you're set up to make some profit which is ultimately the goal of every futures bet that you may for let's transition over here to game to ninety three to ninety four arizona and hawaii arizona double digit favourite eleven the consensus market number out there a lot of interesting cats. Keep an eye on in this game. Though oh yeah yeah i i know the other ones bigger got more ramifications but <hes> <hes> the daycare is the one that i'm i'm really like far forward to. I i love hawaii able where the stadium app late saturday night you know every saturday i love the whole thing called mcdonald a return to the the run-and-shoot and everything like that and arizona's another fascinating fascinating seeing you know an atom curious to get your take on this but for me. I'm seeing this game different than some people and i think it's because i see the way these seems seasons played last year a little bit different you know hawaii finish eight and six and everyone is thrilled with that you know because of the way the offense played and everything like that it was it was very exciting. They were back in in both season. They started out six on everything like that. <hes> whereas arizona finishes five and seven it was it was someone coming in you know his system. Khalil tate's high-octane skill set everything like that and they were going to take the world over on offense. They had all this returning talent last year and then you know they they sort of him. I'm to this five and seven finish. They had some very embarrassing losses. In there. You know starting houston. I think in <hes> even the opener to last year got blown out by using then it got you blown out by a couple of pac twelve teams later on in the demoralizing stuff but i again i see it a little bit differently hawaii. They finish eight and six. They made the ball and everything every day but that was on the back of his six one start well. They were just playing a bunch of cans at the beginning of the season a bunch of cans. Who also you know you go back to the tape thing you're and williams these horrible teams. That hawaii started last year. They had no tape on the run and shoot offense. You know i mean i i it seems by the way that they played it that their coaches weren't showing them the the old coke colt brennan stuff or anything like that especially you go back to zero last year when they just ambushed colorado state and it was just like oh my gosh. What are we seeing. We'd heard whispers that they were going to switch to that offense but it was like it was like cold. You saw cole mcdonald coming on the field. I was just like oh my god. It's this it's cold brennan all over again and stuff like that you know so they ambush him but it turned window. Colorado state's dunk whereas with you know some of those other teams that hawaii be <hes> whereas you know they they get blasted by houston. They lost b._y._u. Well the b._y._u. Loss at the time look just absolutely awful but b._y._u. Ended up making a ballgame you know and and so and then <hes> you know after a month so arizona starts to in two then khalil tate hurts his left ankle you know in game five and he played through it. You know to his credit. You know he's khalil. Tate is a very tough kid but he plays for the next month with this compromise ankle in the offense went into the tank. Khalil tate last year was really good in six games which people don't talk about and he was awful in six games. Which is all the people talk about the six games that khalil tate was awful in it was the first two games against teams that had very good fronts g. five teams independent with you but they were both teams that had good defensive fronts during this transition where you go from rich rods offensive scheme to kevin semblance and and know all mazzoni's ah offensive shift you know people didn't talk about that a lot. It was going to take a little bit of time so we get through those. Those two weeks tape played better the next couple of weeks well then he gets hurt and those next four games she played awful again but down the stretch then he played well right like you know they they lost some games in there for sure but they blew out oregon should the beating arizona state and the finale arizona really sure tomato bowl game last year i i forgot what the score was heading into the fourth quarter but like your forty one to twenty or forty two twenty one or something like that against arizona state and then you know arizona just coughed it up you know in in the fourth quarter procession and miscues and in kevin someone had had a major clock doc <hes> booboo at at the end of that game to lose it but instead of going six and six and then having the opportunity to play some mediocre g. five team in the bowl season to to win it and go seven one in six where where the perception would have been different they instead their season ends at five and seven meanwhile hawaii beat just all these awful teams <hes> to to finish eight and six but but i want people to keep something in mind last year against top one hundred s._n._p. Plus teams hawaii was to insects and against teams that were in the bottom thirty of the b._s. In essence plus they were five now so that that's how hawaii wins hawaii a team. That's like they're a bully against terrible teams because terrible teams do not. We'll have the secondary's to compete with. All the different athletes that hawaii has you know in in the system where the receiver sort of get the freelance their routes and everything like that and they always have the defense on the heels. If you can't get a pass rush on and you don't have athletes to match with those receivers well once they start to face defense as they could and i'm not talking alabama or l._s._u. For hawaii we're talking more like the b._y._u.'s and you know the you know the teams like that you know in t- teams in the n._w._c. at least had some some type of secondary play <hes> <hes> they really started to struggle now to be fair calming donald did struggle with an injury of his own you know in in in the middle of the season or whatever but <hes> their their struggles those hawaii you can pretty clearly delineate them between the good opponents that they played in the bat opponents that they played whereas i feel that arizona's struggles and the way that they're two two thousand eighteen season played out the circumstances it didn't have to do with with opponent quality because we saw arizona absolutely annihilate oregon right or in a again. They should have beaten arizona state etc <hes>. It was more about these other things they it was a hard transition to begin with and then take got hurt. You don't want to give excuses because i i think you know someone and mazzone. They both hold culpability here. They did not do well right. If if it repeats they are going to be on the hot tea really quickly and they may even accelerate right beyond that and go into sort of jim mcelwain zone. You know where you can get fired before. You're the third season but i don't. I don't think that it's it's going to repeat. I'm a little bit more bullish on arizona than i think some other people are just because of these circumstances <hes> and and mine suspicion that you know those aren't going to be either this year and then with hawaii it's sort of the other way <hes> just because i saw the way that their season plato and they just don't put a scare into good teams. You know there's a lot of phenomenal points and a lotta great thoughts in there and and that's something i think is important too. Is that a lot of times. We survey the previous season. Listen to put together paul ratings or whatever else you know we'll get returning starters returning production that type of stuff but we probably don't do enough of what you just talked about with hawaii where they beat the teams that they were supposed to the teams that were equal or below them and struggle with teams that we're above them and there's no doubt about it that when you look at it arizona team as he double double digit favorite going to the island in week one even with why not being as good at home they have been in the past. It's still a sign that arizona is at least a tear or two above bob hawaii. I think it's an excellent point something it hasn't been brought up here yet so far this week on the show so <hes> you'll thank you for being that to light but i it makes sense exactly what you said ed there and and you know i mean whether you want to play arizona in this spot or not it. You still have to consider the fact that arizona's a better team and when hawaii played better teams they had problems. Does that change for this year. I guess what the wait and see yeah one hundred percent yeah. I mean you go back to hawaii win last year. You're talking colorado state in the opener opener. We thought the car out of say was going to be decent but it turns out that they stunk so that that win means nothing. They beat navey similar thing we got. The navy was good. Last year turns out that they weren't beat rice one of the worst c._b._s. And they beat duquesne then the next week they go to san jose state. That was the game they needed. Five overtimes to beat san jose state san jose are they states basically n._f._c. us team and five times to beat them. The next week they play wyoming wyoming only scored thirteen points. Why is one of the worst defense in the nation and and in wyoming couldn't couldn't crack it so the hawaii beat them seventeen to thirteen then hawaii doesn't win again for. I don't know a month or more than they beat u._n._l._v. by a touchdown. You know like like great and then the last game they upset quote unquote san diego state that san diego state team was in the tank and it was a one point win and overtime so like this thing could have gone the other way and you tell me what quality opponents they beat now. They have a pack twelve team coming in a pack twelve team. There wasn't great on defense. You know as your they weren't great on on offense either. They have athletes right in arizona runs a four to five the you know on on defense they always they always have five defensive backs out. That's the way they play there. They're designed to play against spread teams last year. They had a really good quarterback named jason whittaker who was injured on on his first series of the season knocked. Don't for the season. He's gonna be coming back. This year. Arizona already has a really good linebacking corps. You know in that four to five th they got three guys. They wanted the guys. <hes> you know is in a lot or whatever never talk to you. Guys are great. The backups really good to <hes>. Those guys are specifically awesome against a run but the top two guys. I you know reading around this summer. They talked all all summer about how the thing that they did. <hes> this off season was tried to lose as much bad wait as possible and work on their their quickness their fluidity you know and stuff like that the the one kid i'm referring to is calling school. Who's it all pac twelve star sarah linebacker whatever and call and school there's a kid who fresher came in played right away and was great but he's is one of those guys who's awesome against iran and the coverage in the pass rushing was was lagging a little bit you know behind or whatever this kid wants to be great. You know and i think he's talked to evaluators. He's talked to his coaches. Which is what do i need to do to make it in the n._f._l. You know you know along with everyone else in this position group and it seems like that was the feedback they got him in this field kit and so anyway they spent this off season trying to get better at that. You don't want to read too much into that stuff of course but just the fact that these linebackers we already know are awesome against the run. They're thinking about that because because you know arizona arizona as as a team is pretty good against the run last year <hes> their one big issue on defense was they weren't getting after the the the passer enough and i think you know one way that they can get more of a pass rush he's to deploy those two linebackers more as as blazers in in in in selected situations or whatever and so just the fact that those guys are already thinking about you know this coming season we wanna stay off and we can surroun- but we want to create a little bit more havoc in the backfield and we also want to get better and coverage just the idea. We know that that's a weakness in their game that sort of implied by the fact that they're they're going about this work. I think that that's very positive arizona's secondary. I expect arizona be better against the pass this year. You know they did lose a very key player last year early on that's tough because it's not like alabama you know losing losing a corner and week one or whatever never gonna be able to replace him. You know with with another start or whatever someone who's working with. You know rich rod recruits richer. I wasn't recruiting great at the end so it's not like he. Could you shuttle in another guy. Who's going to be above average. <hes> packed starter so getting back to full strength there. I think that helps. I think it helps the arizona has a lot of familiarity that maybe not with the run-and-shoot but with you know spread aggressive offenses and the one thing arizona got going for them to colorado state didn't last year is again colorado. They went into week year. They had no idea the <hes> what they were in for it now colorado state at terrible secondary to but they also had no idea what they were getting in for in colorado state still. I think they got within single. Digits may be at the end the last nine or ten so it wasn't like you know hawaii really raced out but there's a little bit closer at the end there <hes> i i just think the arizona much better idea of what why he's going to want to do hawaii why you will not be able to run the ball in this game. I mean you guys right now. They're not running the ball and so they're going to have to throw in arizona knows that they're going to have to throw in arizona's going to have a minimum of five <hes> five defensive backs on the field at all times you know and go up from there and then you know they have these really active linebackers whatever that i think are going to be able to focus more on blitzing in this game and also dropping back in in coverage so i liked that match up a little bit more just because we seen last year when hawaii was starting to play those better teams on the schedule that's when in the passing attack really devolved and that was when they had john or suwa you know <hes> n._f._l. Fans out there. We'll we'll we'll remember. The zoo was drafted in in this past class. John rasul was was start at hawaii last year i mean he he absolutely he was probably more valuable player to that offense. If if i if i recall mcdonald's and that's not their only loss the other big thing out here that doesn't get talked about a ton is what is it absolutely farm nation. It was an abomination last sure and last year they had a guy named joining tonight that absolute stud linebacker. You know a guy who defender that a program hawaii maybe gets once every ten years and they happen to have him in his final season. You know and he didn't play the entire scene. You got injured for a little bit but he played in eight games and so they had this guy who was a top fifty. Pick in the draft. I think he was yeah. Ten eleven picking the second round by lions <hes> obviously the n._f._l. Agreed that he was a tremendous player. In despite that we finished you know as a bottom twenty <hes> defensive unit who i did and they get shredded gosh right by long plays on the rag you know both in the running game both in the passing game in in terms of giving up explosive explosive plays they were near the bottom. They're defenses a whole finish one hundred eighteenth s._n._p. Plus defense last year and then they were one hundred eleven in allowing explosive plays two opposing offense number one hundred eleven against rushing explosion number one or two against passing explosion and this is where i delve into khalil tate's now healthy you know he's one hundred percent healthy kevin. Someone says his legs back. It is a night and day difference between this season and what ended up happening last year with the ankle uncall- <hes> so khalil tate should be back when khalil tate when he can run. He's one of the most dangerous players in the n._c._a._a. And when he can't run well he's he's just sort of mediocre right because he sort of planted in the pocket is a great pocket passer. No is he ever going to know doesn't mean he's like a terrible player. He can hit his passes when he's running. You know because those those lanes are going to be open right. You know the year before you hit sixty percent even though he was a bit rotter as a pass that percentage dropped a little bit last year he was a sitting duck what he was confined to the pocket in those ten games the first two games. I honestly don't think that someone mazzone hit completely gotten team up to speed because when they came out to play b._y._u. In houston those those teams out physical them in a part of it was because the arizona players even though you know a lot of them were more talented than the opposition you could tell that they were thinking thinking thinking especially tape. You know back there. 'cause there's only clearly told them you stay in the pocket man. We're going to try to make you a better pocket passer. He was trying the first couple of games and it wasn't working and i think we were going to delve into the you know someone. Someone majority sorta came in with this is our ideology. This is what wants to do. We're going to turn this fabulous playmaker into more of a diverse playmaker where he's also going to be able to shred you know teams through the air and we have multiple years with him. You know so we can sort of go through the growing. I think those first couple of games where the growing pains and i think as as those guys sort of started to realize like well we don't have to have our way or the highway between our polarity in rich rodriguez's poll polarity where khalil tate was running almost as many times as he was passing whereas with mazzoni in someone the first couple of games the discrepancy is more like five passes at every runner whatever i think it was going to start to delve more the other way where they were going to start to meet in the middle it all it was clear. We still want throwing so aren't you. You know distress defenses vertically everything like that but we're going to allow you to run a little bit more and i think that's when we're going to see this season. It's just the issue last year i think when when when someone who was only going to sort of get to that <hes> you realize asian or whatever that's when take got hurt and when he got hurt it really defend the offense and it's not just an atom let me i know i'm rambling a baker but let me give you some stats. I know i'm sorta speaking in in some <hes>. <hes> you know generalities here though if you if you combine those first two games arizona had with the months that tate was injured. Okay arizona went one and five and those those games khalil tate how to four two four t. I n t ratio fifty two percent completions and he ran for less than four yards a carry okay in the other six games and and you know it's it's not a sample size with hawaii. Were you separate it out like this and the strength of schedule and the opponents drink is much different. Both it's not in this one because in in the other sample you have teams he's like oregon and this ladder sample but in these other six games <hes> zona when foreign to khalil tate posted in nineteen to four touchdown interception ratio sixty percent completions completions in over eight yards per carry if you take the sack yardage out and there's there's one other thing here khalil tate it's not just he doesn't exist in a vacuum right like when khalil tate's great it's not it's not just that you lose. Khalil tate's great play. If he's not great anymore it's also that it has a deleterious effect on all of his teammates and so just one one example of of this inaction you look at j._j. Taylor who's arizona's like you know small jitterbug waterbucks type running back who can be very dangerous in in specific circumstances you get him win. Khalil tate was struggling in that six games sample. I talk about the first two and then when he was injured <hes> he ran for four hundred seventy nine yards in no six games. You look at the other six games. The other sample where arizona when foreign to and khalil tate was point awesome j._j. Taylor ran for nine hundred fifty five yards in those games and it was merely because khalil tate's legs were back when khalil tate's legs or back defenses are terrified of getting shredded by khalil tate so they have to do something to compensate you can't just sit back and let khalil tate what he did to colorado the year before break rushing records you have to do something and so that's one opens up the passing game <hes> and and obviously it gives more space to j._j. Taylor as well you know everything bogs down when quilt is not quilty and everything plays up when he isn't if khalil tate it is indeed healthy <hes> they're going to be able to name the score on on offense. Hawaii isn't going to be able to stop anyone this season unless magically gilani to fall from the sky. I don't see that happening. Hawaii defense was awful last last year with a defensive talent. It was almost generational at a program like that in in to buy it. They're going to be worse. This year. You know and then is the offense going to be better. Oh i don't know i mean it. Is your two of system. Do you have a starting quarterback. Returning you do have the entire hawaii offensive line returning so given that but they still aren't going to be able to run the ball and they did lose their sewer the guy they're going to replace him with is a guy named milky stovall who flashes a freshman for cal he was playing with sonny dykes air-raid and then when they switched justin wilcox stovall was sort of you know he was showing up on milk cartons. Basically he wasn't usable in that system so he transferred out the wife. I think he's gonna be fine. You know i think the passing attack is gonna. It'd be fine but it's still sort of a one trick pony so you have this sort of one trick. Pony offense no defense. Is that good enough to stay within a couple touchdowns arizona if khalil tate is at least ninety percent of khalil tate. I don't know i don't know about that well. I don't think we're going to find a more comprehensive breakdown here of that arizona versus hawaii game lots of great stuff schematics personnel <hes> obviously the splits with tha when he's healthy and then you know hawaii when they stepped up in class so lots of very very strong stuff they're on today's show from thorne streaming and follow him on twitter at four k. You you can also find his work over at rota world. So what do you got going on over. It wrote a world right now. I will be publishing my against the spread preview here in about an hour or two year on early thursday afternoon so i'll i'll have all my thoughts on arizona's hawaii and florida miami <hes>. I just put up an s._e._c. preview yesterday and then as the season goes. I'm gonna have my insist bread <hes> preview on every day on thursdays days and i'm fortunate enough that i hope that will be joining you adam every every every thursday so it's gonna be. It's gonna be a fun season. I'll have a lot of a lot of content for you guys but once what's it got every thursday. I guess we're gonna call it here on radio once again thore nystrom at four k. you on twitter prison time man. Thank you so much for joining us and we'll talk. Do you get next week. Always a pleasure sir thank you bye-bye now is the chance to use reliable energy to grow your money with the dominion energy reliability ability investment. 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"So I don't forget to this to this day. As intended for mature audiences the views and opinions expressed are those of the panelists and do not reflect in any way. Those are the podcast partners. Sponsors OR AFFILIATES ENJOY DOT COM. All the guys want. Bush would later a second place. Gets a life all right. That's everybody combat speeches is in his court told US respect he has low plants. Sacrifice march was dot com to get to where DOT com. Welcome Back Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to another edition of the box and voice radio. I'm your host nests that Gibbs and I'm joined alongside Aka Casual Easy Mario mcgeown Corporis Christi. And we should be having deb. Haney Bill Haney on a program today to discuss the multitude of different angles in avenues that we can go down when it comes to the young former or champion in recess. I don't know that's the question we can ask them but Let me go ahead and introduce my goals. Remember the number to call in one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one press one one time voice your opinion right here on the voice of the people line. Don't forget to add Nestor Gibbs on skype to be part of the conversation as long as you are on that daily show. Level Comedian Mattio. Yes ebb talking to Devin. Haney seeing all these tweets and instagram's and all this stuff This is like the perfect time to get him on. You know especially 'cause he's like got a while down because of crony he's got to know what I'm saying like. I bet he's got a lot of stuff to say also have his trainer His father Bill Yeah Debit Bill. Yeah Bill Haney And so get to talk to them. Talk to him about Some interesting matchups in his own division and talk about Perhaps moving up because that came out of his own I wasn't saying mouth but I guess tweet. So yeah what's up. What's up man? Do I go in like that like freestyle? They were the bike riding. Yeah Yeah Bill Haney and Devon Haney you know the number like net set for two five six nine five to four one and joined the Combo. Listening I'm regaining. Church the Casual Fan. And we're talking Devon Haney calling out names like do we just get into it was to do. Mara I think so I mean like I I don't know here's the thing like these Tamir the hardest interviews because there's so much to talk about. There's too much to talk about. You know what I'm saying. Not enough time. And you got patriarch questions. You know what I'm saying so That's going to be these. Are The tough interviews for me. Like the ones where like we have a little packet. We got a little information. I can come up with something asked you know what I'm saying even if I'm not as familiar with the fighter. Ns always helps out these Joe. What what what. Don't we ask him at this point right? I has was interesting about Devon Haney at this point for me and the fight fan public you know. Have Their hardcore fan favourite. Like you know disowning bud and wow the you know so Devon Haney name drop some names that may have that hardcore fan and asks that question to themselves when they head Devon Haney Sadi's names do you think we're GONNA get a lot of that. Was your thoughts on that. Oh you know he's GonNa talk you know he's GonNa Talk Public Not Haney. Oh the public. Oh yeah they can already do that though on twitter like I don't know I don't twit. I'm talking here on a live phone calls got you. I got you I got you. I don't know what do you mean though bud? Fans while the haters Lohman Chanko fans triple jihadism fans Devon haning named Mikey Garcia. Mikey Garcia has fans on the show so immediately I thought like damn what the the fight fans that are riding with Mikey Garcia thinking about Devon. He would've response is going to be when somebody like you protects them or like nets protects them all caller protects them like. I feel like this is going to start a bonfire. I think that's kind of wrong because a lot of this stuff that we're going to touch on he's been saying for like a month two months. Now nobody's really jumping on it. I wonder why I wonder because who wants to be the first guy right. It's like Brunner Brunner's trainer said if Boehner Beatson. He supposed to beat him if he loses. You know it's it's all bad for him. So Devon is in a you know low risk. I mean high risk low rewards situation naming. He said he brought up. He says he brings the money. He says he brings the money but the fight is that he's been pursuing have been evading him in and if he truly brought a lot of money or enough money those fights will be made so like. Let's say for tuna. He mentioned right. My name right all right. So where's the money in NAFEESA? I will say Devon Haney or am I wrong Yeah but that's a little different. What are you talking about down because it's not none of the big names? It's not versatile. Like like he named the Fortuna in that situation for but that's because for two hundred six is mandatory and in that situation like Fortuna would be the one getting the shot. I I don't know for Tunis pretty well known to though. But now it's gotta be detainee. It ain't a big fight for full you know that's that was also goodbye for love to take that for the wolves listeners. That Hawk Oh boxing fan. Wolves are named that. Because Haney named it and I'm talking about money right so now Lohman Chanko. He did fill the big room. I want to go to against him. And George Lynn yards right. Is that name right? Leaning Versus Open Cheiko filled the big room. Who brings the money Loma Chango Devin? Haney? 'cause I know Lohman Shankleman pay-per-view fighter at this point but he feels the Madison Square Garden big yet. So devin Haney and Shankar. Who's the big money there who brings the money? I mean it's hard to say. Haney hasn't gotten that opportunity like have a main event he sold out MGM HOBBLE. But that doesn't have the same amount of tickets as a Madison Square Garden. I doesn't bring the money at that point. No no you can't say that because he filled in for Ucla who pulled out so that wasn't that MGM. Halbe wasn't his show. That was the venue. Eddie had would would main event that they already had pulled out with some sort of injury and they slid Devon into the main event and he was still able to sell it out so he he is a draw. All right now. Let's also remember Devon Haney is on the undercard of the Paulo Kassai to. Does that do anything for him? I mean he's cool. He's cool with them. I've seen numbers. The numbers do the numbers that that resulted end. Does that do anything too soon? To tell like they need more than just one and two events to get some residual effect for their non YouTube fighters. I'm discharge definitely. Did it definitely accomplished something? I'll I'll definitely give it that. It definitely got him some sort of recognition. How much and how deep I don't know but it definitely it didn't hurt being on that card and and that's a tough thing for me to say because you know there's no way there's no way heard it. Obviously you're in front of a bunch of boxing fans and new by non boxing exactly but But the the the the only issue is that we don't know how to gauge. How much work NYSTROM trying to stand like? Why does he say he brings the money to the table? Because I would say off the Bat Yam state I would say. Oh you know what I think. He's right but then I'm just trying to clarify to hardcore boxing. Fans is this right. Like what is the Chateau you? He says he brings the money but you know his list. Was that tweet at Bir. Like his list is all big names. A heating get none of them names on that list. You know what I'm saying. He Got Debra Hannity versus mikey right now real quick before I read his list. My list would be Devon Brown I. That's the biggest FIFA him out. Their biggest fight next is mikey. That's the second biggest fight for him next Vescio. Then t a female I think the bigger fight than Garcia only because two females a real champ Garcia's just bellis but he's a name he's a name but he's about Lewis is not in a mean is not there. I know I know. Bonus belt lists burners real name. He's a real name. But there's also a name behind Mikey Garcia Mom Ryan Gercy my Ryan Garcia. He's not going to follow us at that point. But then he's bell. Listen he's he's not on pay per view he's never done is different from. Mikey like He. Don't I get that fight? Could be bigger for Devon off a tank or somebody in the future but right now Ryan and even crossed over the prospect. He just did with the foam second knockout in an so then. He said he can't get none of these guys at thirty five or forty. You know he'll move up to forty seven so obviously you know we got Crawford over there because by Baram does business with disown you know. They have Ramirez there Maybe they do it with Haney where they didn't want to do it with Haney with with with Cielo machiko. So is going to be interesting to see how it plays out. But he's got all big fights but that's my list so now this is where he tweeted out and he's like Haney Versus Mikey Garcia Debra hand versus a Jim Brenner. Brian Garcia Tank Davis Loma. Chanko not a female luke. Campbell robberies have their Fortuna and Relondo hurdle Metal Aka Rowley. So I don't think rollies ready Not Emt has promoted him well enough to to put them in with amy just yet plus they know. Haney well so that's the only way they put them if they really really believed that he could beat Haney Fortuna. I believe that is the fight that we're GONNA get or the easiest on the list to make. Oh I didn't even see. He put Robert Easter. Okay I can't see that happening that's PBC. He's always wanted Robert. He's too though before he was a chant and Luke Campbell. I see that happening. Because there's Eddie and natural but everything else I just see so far away for him but I do want any one of those other top ones out. He mentioned whether it's low Marchinko Tank Bryan. Berner all Mikey. I'll take either for Mikey's the reach and he's reaching when he name drops. Mikey because Mike is one hundred forty seven pounder. He'll reaches except for like guys like Maybe heavier for to know Robert Easter's probably within his grass. And then I can see a Luke Campbell definitely within his grasp But other than that a lot of these guys are out of his reach right now and when it comes down to money and popularity I see that low Marchinko has. I just googled him. He's hundred point. I mean he's one point eight million followers on instagram. So he's he's up there in popularity somehow throughout the world and Devon Haney six hundred thirty six thousand six hundred thirty six hundred thousand. But that's good though because that's like that's like a little bit less than than than Earl and the house and Than Prophet. But that's still a huge reach to say. I bring the money because it seems like Lomas the one he wants Ryan Garcia Loma. Second and then Tank third or the names. Then Mikey if they don't want it don't think he means I bring the money I mean and hopefully you know We could get them on and we ask them this Specifically to give us more detail on it but I don't think he means I bring the money like I'm your highest paid. I think he means I bring the money like I got promoted a believes in me and I get paid. I'm a bit of a franchise so this ain't no. This ain't no low risk high reward type of fire and that's what he's saying like I think mattering believes in them. I think they will in look you Eddie. If any of him the long way he wouldn't he wouldn't slid and Bruna. Dm's but I see what you may he means if you WANNA get paid confide me I mean not not in words because obviously you could get paid fighting tons of other people but he saying if you fight me you will give him. We'll get paid dollar. That's exactly how I because I thought he meant I bring the money. I bring the Stardom Sean trying to say that. Yeah I don't know anything getting response from bill yet and that's You know I hate Colin. People did not respond to Tex. Well it's four thirty five in Nevada right now. They home state. Yeah you know and They probably sleep. I mean last time. Devon's we woke him up for the last interview so You know but yeah man I I think I think commercial-appeal man he's gotta he's gotTa go burner Garcia Loma now man. You Ain't getting Aloma fi. We've already seen that with with the with the with the evasion that Loma did right like took the franchise title and in Loma laughs at him. I mean I think The zone put it out like yeah they did look at what look at Loma thinks of Haney sand that he'll beat them and hanes like oil. Ko you in and Lomas like seriously like five laughing out loud emojis and Shit Lomas Almost funny though 'cause Lomo could afford a man Lomas out the ring a long time now and Is going to be funny? You know to see like does he asks for tuneup now to go into the the female fight. Do they use this corona virus? You know as like a reasoning to get a tune-up Yeah they could and and and you know it's probably GonNa happen more than we think. I listen I'm at the end of the day. I'm going to be surprised. We get more than like three really big matches and like five really competitive matches that may may not have like huge names but like you know decent names but really competitive fights you know and I think it tops out at that. I think a lot of these guys are gonNA come back and end up fighting You know tune up fights a lot of them are gonNA take some mandatory. That probably aren't what we really want. but you know at the end of the day they launch angle has said that he didn't need a tune-up he said he's going right into the deal female but that was before corona virus so I could see fighters not going into the fight that was talked about Agassi. Tune-ups happening A lot of this is too soon. A lot of dates are going to be crunched together. You know if we do come back in Let's just say may bright New York at least comes back in. May then what you know. New York fight is what New York fighter was announced. The viruses still spreading throughout states. That still have not been close but they use in New York. They're not going to get nothing off in New York. New York just pushed it back. They push the lockdown back a whole nother month. And you made to to me. I oh they so. That's the third time then because they have pushed. It's April twentieth lockdown. Now April thirtieth was the original and I haven't heard anything since so that means things slowly and things evaluate to then say our cool us open up so I was watching some news today on Corona virus. And they were saying how it's never going to get under control and New York City because they don't got full lockdown And people are not even respect a curfew in New York so the contamination and still super high. So I mean I keep telling Ya. Stay away from the delivery food because I mean them do not using protocol remember. Anybody could download the UBER now. He's right 'cause I do it for him sometimes too but you know. Here's the thing like I've been doing lately. Because they need people right and it's like a lot of elderly that need those services but like I wear gloves like you were saying earlier. You're absolutely right. You don't know then we give us nothing you even worse you delivering old folks. They don't want got the virus known from the fire. They more extra precaution. When I handle food like extra precaution and at the end of the day. They're going to this day. You'RE GONNA die because they caught corona trying to survive. You know what I'm saying like. They're not getting food like some of these people don't have families so you know when they order from From from one of our favor. Uber eats whatever Groceries for them. And that's what I've been getting a lot of people that need groceries not like McDonald's and you can understand you instant Gar. Yes you do Amazon. Devon's bill said Devon calling now coke so yeah ladies and Gentlemen de deb. Haney is about the call in. And we'll about the you know. Dissect the felons and answer the questions. Put all the names. Yeah man now I wanna see I wanna see what's his list you know. He's mentioned so many names he don't gotta add none to the list. He just gotTa tell me. What's the order? What what what's the marching orders for Eddie? Who He won't I you know Who WanNA chopping block? And you know we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA see what's up man because He mentioned forty seven. He said if I can't get at thirty five pounds or forty I'm move up to forty seven now. That could have been tongue in cheek. An tweet he do a little emoji like with the crazy emoji tongue out. You know man but he then they need to win. Hashtag free smoke free SCHMO. So that's like way. Is HE PLAN? Does he really want the the the small right like free? Smoke just means I come get it. Smokers did that meets air but but then that Emoji is. I'm crazy that crazy. Like did he put the crazy Emoji to be like. Yeah if I can get a fight thirty five or forty. I'm that crazy. I'll move. Forty seven or is he saying? I'm moving forty. Seven crazy Emoji mean like now. You know that's a fucking joke at if he is going to do that. Like where's this blueprint come from is the URL? A blueprint emceeing the Hatton woman cancer. I'M GONNA go up. And then unprotected by that loss you know what I'm saying. I don't even connect them to any of those names. He shoots you down if you tried to connect and you know I'm GonNa be the first devastating devastating. Yea but you can ask him in a sense like you does. Moving up. Does a loss move in a mean that the same thing as a loss to like Orion Garcia somebody at your weight? I mean gopher for go go for that. I don't think he's thinking losing that's most fighters when you ask them that. I don't I don't ever think about losing your hide. You pick up that McDonald's you went to the place or you got down. May Watch them like see what they're doing. Oh you heard of early. He said he watched them. And see what they doing. Dame paying. Yeah they're not paying enough all that you're yesterday. I went to chant shoprite customers food. Okay Food Yeah. A yesterday I went to a whole foods and shoprite shoprite had a line outside six feet apart right. Took me about twenty minutes to get in but once you went side you walking down now. You know people kind of brushed right by you so what I was doing was I turned in my head acting out like you stay away from me. I was acting real boozy light yellow back up so I come home. I'll get on the show. Take a shower and everything and I feel a little like cold. I'm like Yo Mike is sick A paranoid man so today what I did was I took does mass. I'll put it around my face gloves on. I'm not the full driving with a mask and gloves on. I get out the car with my. I put my gloves all about the rob. The bank put the mask. I went to daughter that I see people like what you just said with. The gloves and masks inside their car with the windows rolled the I just be like come on. You know some at this should be. It's like are you going to take like? Are you going to take it off every time and put it back on every jam like rather just leave it on? Put It on put it on. It's GonNa stay on until I'm done. Call at least take the mask off in your car. You were in there alone but that should on a passenger seat. You'll have three hundred gloves. I bought a box bar. Yeah me too. I bought a box where to go and she hit the fan. So I'm like this before I get out the car I'm like Now started doing the mass. 'cause they're like? Yo put the mask on. Because you know you've got it you pass. You May as at the magic and you know give you better check that. Those aren't like you know from the same people you're GonNa fake Christoph Ron because you might WanNa check that I did the fan club and although I knew what it was but what I'm saying is the mass. There's only one real mass as medical when his damn now five and you can't find that anywhere scoff they're saying oh you should put the scoff on just for that little bit of layer of protection that you want but is not guaranteed like the M now five. Yo Intrigue say if you take the mask off and put on your seat you contaminate the seat breath you contaminate the seat will then. You are contaminated. You should be out in the street driving. No car with no gloves. In no matter you should be yours in hospital on. Corentin on lockdown Cheviot S and contagion status. Not a mass doesn't work you do right now. Doctors rate wait the reason why they run out of mass is because they use them at per use. They're not using them going to one patient name leaving that mask on going to another patient they get out that patient's room throw that mask away and then put on another mass for the other patient. They say you use a scarf if you I mean because we don't know who's contaminated or not but that's scoff and those masks on the streets are only protecting the people who are not infected from the person who is infected so have you infected with a mask on. Then you're protecting me. Who has no mask on me? Putting my all mask on not infected is trying to protect myself with social distancing and amass as extra layer from give from receiving cooties from Yo ass so that's why when I'm in a supermarket I'm practicing. Har Body Social Distancing. I feel that I feel that like you know. Sometimes forget like if I'm in a line and the and the people don't have a taped up because a lot of people have tape the like six feet and that's why these line a lot of these people are keep showing these lot like. Look the lines too long and some of them are very long. I'm not saying that they're not but some of them. I mean it's like seven people and it's like you know thirty thirty forty feet because people are you know keeping keeping a separate you know right look man and New York City New Jersey. They said the president said they using the mitigation which means the results are going to come in the next two to three weeks. The two or three weeks. We're going to see one hundred thousand to two hundred and forty thousand new cases. That'S THE APEX. For New York New Jersey and Connecticut and a lot of that is going to include a deaths so the president seven hopeful sad braces. So is this the chair Yes sir. I'll probably doing energy. I'm sorry I'm a little bit late. So good no problem by the. Thank you first and foremost for taking the time to come on program. We do appreciate that man and obviously we wanted to talk to you. You know right now. You've said a lot on social media man so we just pulled up a lot of The most significant tweets that you've made and or instagram posts just to have you give us some some good old background information on my. We WanNa pull on up my. Let's see how good you are? Which when you're going to give him I I hear. Here's the one first of all. Thank you for joining us throughout these times. So I want to go straight to the tweet about going skipping one thirty five and going to forty. And if you can't get to one forty get a fight at one forty then going up to forty seven You did have an Emoji with it. But I don't know how. How serious are you about that Just talking smack I would just bet for making a point that you know guys at one thirty five they wanNA fight me and guys at one. Forty probably wouldn't WANNA fight me. Neither not really showing that much to me. Some saying I was just joking and saying that I go up to pretty seventy two. I want to smoke and are willing to fight anybody but I love. I love it. I'm awesome haunch. Nobody really kind of Charlie but not really truly because I I am willing to go to one forty. I'm at one thirty. I want smoke at one. Thirty five and one forty and eventually one day. I woke up to my seven but I right now. That's real so so DEF CHURCH AKA fan What what are your people? You handle those expressing a you about making Ryan Garcia fight or you know from their professional point of view what what's realistic as options next for you know by people they they they are. Were very interested in where we're trying to make it happen His people want to fight as well. I WANNA take as bad as we want it They're not pushing a fight. His battles we want it but you know they. Are you know entertaining and you know it may happen? You Know Suma didn't think but Yeah what was the other question was what is a realistic option. If Not Ryan Garcia next for you as of now you know I do have a mandate Mandatory who is Heavier Fortuna? And where we're looking to where we're we're we're entertaining that that fight right now Waiting on the WBZ to to see their mandated. Or what's going to happen but you know with with with the cove in nineteen going on. Nobody really knows what's going on to be honest. So you added sweet. But I'm paraphrasing. I'm sure you remember. It says something like I'm the big money fight or I bring the money to the fight so I'm sure you know a better than me. And can you just explain what that meant because me and my Coz we're kinda bouncing that one back around and we weren't sure would what that what I meant was what I meant was I went to zone. And they're bringing the money and that anybody who wants to fight me is we'll we'll we'll get paid because design has the money and they're they're they're willing to to put the money to make any big fight happen beautiful beautiful and that's kind of the direction. I was leaning. Some people thought. Maybe you were saying. You're the Eisai but that that sounds definitely better at the negotiation table so now you did put out another treat said. I'm not building a fight. I'm ready to cry. Is that that was not only Garcia. It's a few other people that are looking to to keep building rights and keep building momentum or whatever but Ryan Garcia is one of the people that saying that the he wants to keep building. I keep building a fight and I wanted to to make it happen now because I feel like I'm ready and and There's a lot of other big fights out there that could be made so if we're gonNA just keep building the fight. Keep building one of these big vice going to happen because the fans WANNA WANNA WANNA CD sites. What did you think about a few of the older heads some of the really smart guys? Rick Leisure I think Adam A lot of these guys who kind of said. Hey look if the fight isn't ready right now. It's not ready right now and to kind of chill you agree with that but I mean. Obviously you're saying the fights ready. You're ready to fight him. But do you think you should just wait until it gets bigger until it's not as they call it a twitter fight which to me is. It's a huge. Y'All have such a huge following. It's a big fight but it could get bigger right you talking about right about the Ryan fight. It was Lou Lewis in the conversation Lou Lou. Dibella he was. He was in the conversation but They were talking about you and finding Garcia and basically what they were saying in. The comments was You know that that the fights not ready yet that it's not ready even if you're ready the fights not ready. Do you agree with what they were saying? Oh I don't agree I mean I like that's one of the biggest fights to be made right now. I mean what are the? What were the bigger fight that that could possibly be made? Maybe Joshua Wilder dodgeball theory. You know the heavyweight division knows our fate Camello and maybe who Triple g maybe but even of course. Stevenson said a live on air on. Xm That y'all to we're GONNA fight one day. It was going to be huge fight but that was for way down the road and understand the the discrepancy in size but I think you clearly goods jargon get way more popular at some point were were means you are different weight classes so right now we city but fight anyways but so but and with the lightweight division. There's so many big fights we're going to keep waiting too. Raunchy Davis Deborah hand. Wait till tomorrow Dan. Haney wait. Brian Garcia wake Goma Deborah Haney. Wait what are you gonNA keep waiting keep waiting? I don't know how was island. We're going to wait for. I think people are waiting a lot of work. And then there's a lot of young guys coming up as well. You who you guys may not know yet. But they're young. They have talent and would eventually them they are gonNA come up as well? Yeah you're twenty one though. You're the young guy brother like man. I I love the way he talks. Bro. I I love it I love talking so for me I think that there's a bigger fight in the Ryan Garcia right now and I've been saying this ever since you started it. I want the BRANA. Fai just like I want that fight. I think that fight. Yeh takes you over and it takes you over the top and after you beat Boehner. No-one like everyone. GonNa WanNA fight. Because you're on that level you know in terms of celebrity status in terms of Gerow because a fight with Bona's going to just how much a drawing pool where you have because it's the right combination man obviously Eddie did his social media thing got Bona's? Dm's book have you sought to Eddie seriously about trying to get that fight with groner. Yeah We talked a little bit about it but it doesn't seem like Boehner really. You know really want their fight to be honest with you got it. Got It. For for argument's sake Devon you had checklists Loma was on that checklist. This show has hardcore a lot of fighters. No may be one of them. They're going to debate tomorrow morning. About what low mcadoo and the fans that say what what Devin Haney can do like. Why do you feel so dominant in that? Fight that fight. I mean like I said it's it's always easy outside looking in you. You never know until you never know what you get in there and I can say about me orchestra about him so you never really know what you get in there. But the my bandages. I got a couple of faster I got. I got wonder I got longer reach on bigger I'm I have you on our side. We we never really seen Roma knock anybody out like that anger he's he. He seems to break his opponents down mentally and physically rather than just one punch knock knock guys out so we really don't know how much power he has And you know I'm I am better than all the other guys that he thought he stayed the Abbey. Even guys a he far housing showed any type of time like like. Let me take us back. Real quick to tweet about moving up one forty one forty seven now obviously said that you know it was you. It was HYPO- hyperbole. Right you were just you know talking. Maybe frustration a little bit okay. Let's say that this krona virus. Let's say that boxing doesn't get started for another year? Let's say that we are eighteen months from this point and you still haven't gotten to fight. Would you consider going up to one? Forty seven or one forty for a fight Garcia was spent. Or where where you'd be in a position where even if you lost to a big guy P P people wouldn't hold it against you or are you gonNa stay firm at your division and and try to you know do everything you can to unify. Beat all champions made is really depends on how much my body matures. You know that guy you know over that time so I never I never know you know Maybe one forty maybe one forty seven. Maybe once before you never know how how you buddy will our play out but as a now What might stay thirty five years as long as I can. Because there's so many Feis Devon. I don't know correct me if I'm wrong but did you say I feel like you might have told me in an interview. Maybe I heard you talking during an interview but did you ever say that you want to fight Crawford before your career is over. I never said that maybe that was according. I'm I'm never said that. But you know we never know when there's so many big they so many big impact that that could be made over time you know maybe maybe maybe being there with cropper one day or maybe it may be mean. They're Cannella one day or you know You never know you think you think you get that big. I mean one. Sixty is almost behind him. He hasn't fought. I WANT SIXTY CENTS. Jacobs which is about two years ago boxing. You never know what may happen. You know I look up to guys like Sugar Ray and you know Roy Jones who you know. Jump wait classy dude things like that. Now let me Let me ask you so you got tank. You Got Loma you got TA FEMA. You've got all these people like you said rough going around in this division. Now you're telling me that you want to fight these fights at one thirty five right. I mean I'm assuming that if you all kind of graduate up to one forty be okay but you wouldn't ever make a jump up to one forty one forty seven and then try to come back down right. You're going to allow yourself to outgrow the division. That's what you were saying. Cracked one go up to one forty. I don't see myself going back down. Thirty five got it. 'cause I go to forty seven and we must have gone back down to one forty after like. That's where a lot of a lot Go fighters made mistakes that you're trying to go up and down up and down and and and weight classes and it may hurt them all right. Devon before we let you go. Let me get to some questions from the people got d lack talking box and says I was there at the fight when you one when you want to go pro in San Francisco years ago and knew you would be a champion one day. I'm just happy to see you win champs so no question just sending love thank you. I appreciate it all right. We got another one from Brandon Lopez. Thanks for taking out the time they come on a box voice. If you could use excuse me if you could choose your next three fights who would you be interested in fighting next three fights? I love that Probably Airport Tuna Brian Garcia. Mikey Nice I love the Monkey. Fight to David Alvarado says who you rank from a top to the bottom from the young guns from one thirty to one. Thirty Five T. A female tank Ryan's should call little be hop and how you see that all right. Just one question he got too many. This how you rank all those. Other young fightes Alike Shukor Stevenson Are very familiar with him. We came together Like him number one. I like She a female number two Ryan number three. They're GONNA kiss honorable. Mention all your lists. I didn't even. I didn't even remember two on. I noticed SPEC I remember who the other guys on this was but it will be before you ever shared the ring. No okay okay. Yeah he east coast. I could see that Rodney says it's disappointing as a fan that supports black fighters with my wallet. Buying tickets merchandise pay per views to see double standards and clear racism in the sport. Why ARE BLACK FIGHTERS? Afraid to spot on the obvious issues. Act Blind as if it's not happening. I mean he wasn't really direct but I guess he's talking about less promotion for Black Fighters. Maybe wasn't direct on his issue or his question. I guess the question is just everybody. I guess just the double standards is the only question I see. Oh definitely that was standard wipe is life. Is You know you? You know it's double standards. You know period you know. She's is basically how it is you know and there's no way around it you know in everything everything everywhere you go every everything that you do is double standards period. So it's not only boxing. I mean I get you and from a standpoint I agree but I think a guy like bronner why want you to fight them has has has surpassed double standards right like normally people say oh the Mexican fighter is the Eisai because he got the fan base but Boehner with or without a bell is always condes is always a draw he always does a million thing I can say is what thing I can say is eighty douglas standards with What did Mike Big Life situation with? with Tyson theory. And and say why do maybe if the as the F. D. Cloud if the club was on on your wider who knows how how they will react but you know. Now we're seeing that global is on a Tyson theory. They're not really paying attention. A lot of people are oblivious acting oblivious to it and I like they act like they. They don't see but that is something that you know the the world should be looking into way so you you found an issue with the video of furious glove. You have an issue with that. Yeah Yeah I mean. A lot of people was asking me about it. I did look into the issue that much but it's obvious to the something something is wrong with the what the Glenn. I've never seen that in boxing. How have you saw that in boxing? Before I have not but I wanted to shoot Jim that you used to work out a lot of the Mayweather Boxing Club. They did a few videos. China debunk is saying like how does a fight hit harder? If his hand isn't where it belongs. Did you see that video and I guess what do you say to that like if you had? Fisa your risk part of the glove. Do you think you'd break? Your hand will be more effective in the fight. I don't know I never tried it. I've been doing a lot of research on and I seen a a young kid named Joey. Joey dispenser these days and he was saying how. How in Detroit is what they do they match is that you know and like I always wondered if a guy like did the Margarito thing and made his hand wraps hard. How been hurt his hand. But you know some guys eight. They math those types of things that is a symbol is on the inside. It's the outside hardens. The way they do because Margarita was dealing with plaster of Paris. The story goes that as the rounds went on it would dry. And that's why it would hard in. And then at the later rounds as where he killed her and by then he's broken his skin and he's you know he's kind of used to it and said into it. Yeah but that's the even even in some of my flights were like our scrape my knuckles my knuckles like what the hammer just irregularities regular handbags and I will. I will be scratching up my my knuckles in Washington would be hurting inspiring. Sometimes my nichols would be stressed out from just punching and rubbing against the Bourbon against the Hindrup so power know some guy's mass master the master those type of things and that's why they get away with it because you know you may think that a guy can hit harder or whatever and it definitely something to look into I mean I I got I got to say man you know. I was stalking your your twitter so I know you pick. Wow demand you maybe you not just soured like me. 'cause I picked them to our. I can't say that I'm not but I'm saying look into it more. They're not looking into it. And so trump you ever did those hunters straight or you gave it to say like you know twenty five and a clip yet. But when I see I got I got to give this straight words but I gotTA DO. I gotTa do it. I was tight that night. But I'm telling you I heart. I couldn't believe I I couldn't believe my eyes exactly. That's how we got some more questions before we let you go champ. We have a mart- Fernandez. Who's your top five day quiet today now? The number one cropper number two It's hard it's hard. This is hard. Come on you gotta put in there so when you beat them you automatic. I can't put myself in it so I can't put my right. I mean you put yourself in it but people go. Oh let's let me restart number one and number three for sale. Beat them you get you get the credit. Yeah well I say. The number one number two cropper number three Actually number four Dad's over I told you I told you. I think his investigation. Yea that's pending pending I was good man again. Oh who I like. I like better be but I wasn't in my top. I think he's definitely under eighty again. He's a bee's we got. Julio Fernandez says what made you sign to design instead of going with al off the mark on the question. A little bit But you know I said he's worked for for the deal. Was Taylor around exactly what I wanted. I wanted a Co Promotion. Type of deal I believed in the the streaming platform. You know early. You know eating a lot of people are jumping on it now and getting bigger and bigger and bigger by believed in it. You know about a year ago I was when I signed So yeah you know the the the deal. Was Taylor exactly how how wanted all right brandon. Cincinnati says clowns like to make the argument of being on the wrong side of the street as an excuse to duck fights. Do you feel like you're being duct or or you on the wrong side of the street. I hate hearing. I heard that or wrong side of the street. It should never be like that I mean of course it's politics in everything you know like I was saying earlier but I I hate to hear that in boxing. You know everybody should be able to to work together to make the talking and give the fans what they what they want to see. We got intrigued. The INCREDIBLE IN ATLANTA SAYS JEROME BOOTS. Ennis has went on record stating he is ready to fight. All the champions in the welterweight division versus Walford happens down the road. Who Do you favor in that fight and y you said happened responsive and Doron no innocent Crawford Crawford on I think and this is America fighter? I think he you know he's underrated a lot of people who are looking to him that much right now but pretty soon the world will be looking in and you know. See how he has but you know. I think that'd be a good fight. You know down the road I think you know he just needs to get some big big fights before the of course you know Crocker has right. Now he's been you know fighting fire too big cry but eventually that'd be huge fight and You know one day you know. It'll be huge and I think that he can. It matures in does right me. He he could win the fight one day but much much later so I gotta eggs man you what what. What's the difference between? Ns Now and you in the mandatory position before basile accepted franchise status. I mean no disrespect. I don't even think that. wasn't has a undefeated fighter yet. To be honest with you is. He fought anybody in the top ten. I talked to the number. I bought the number two number. Two guy he wasn't he was. The demand was the for the eliminated. He would drink number two he was. I have nobody wants it right. I don't disagree I just want you to be you know. Make it clear for those that don't know because they might say well. Wait a minute you know you were a prospect and then you were in a mandatory position but yeah yeah yeah understand that but I'm just a few more George Austin a UK says out of all the boxes. You have sparred or competed against who was the most difficult I can't say to be honest with you because it'll be some guys who you never even knew of. You never thought that would give you some work. You'd be a guy who just jam and he which is awkward and he gave you some some some some good work on you know. I've tried to learn everybody. I tried to get something out of every crime that I do so I can't say nobody in particular as of right off my head but you know we're floyd so I gotta give it to play because he's imagined and it was you know honor to to be in the ring. And once spar with him I felt like that could eat anybody. I was like into go because by going there and holding my own him and you know. I'm I'm ready for anybody so he would definitely accomplished but we got big casual says was good champ. Which one of your peers? That you see yourself boxing in the future in your prime for a big time pay per view event. So I guess which one of these guys you think is going to be your pay per view fight. Are you going to name them or they want me to say something? They want you to say someone which one of your peers. So it'd be Ryan core whoever whoever I think as of right now the biggest fight right now that that that the world is demanding and they want to see if we and of course That's the one that everybody mark like buzzing like crazy right now. Sort of our. That would be right now but Eddie did you know. I'm sorry but I just wanted to reach Eddie set in the. He feels like that fight could get done before the end. The two thousand twenty does that even sound realistic to you From from what? I've been hearing. It sounds pretty realistic. But you never know. Boxing eating APP especially with the Kobe. Nineteen thing that went on. We never know days. I look into that but we never I would love for it to happen in twenty twenty. I think you kind of answered this but I wanNA give him a shot. I'LL DONATE UK says. Do you realistically think you can tempt. A. B. Into a fight or is he just acting like a clown like always I mean I hope so. I think there would be a huge like like you said earlier being used by I would love to to make it happen. You know a dean. I take over the ads like like you said I don't know we'll see. Are you serious or not closing some asking for twenty I mean you can't say that he's wrong asking for twenty nine. You can never tell somebody. There were the obviously knows that. He's a huge job. And that you know he's a big fight for anybody so you never can say. Somebody's asking for too much when they bring a lot to the table. I mean he brings a lot to the table. I think twenty is too much but I think that it's still worth a conversation you know. Find out what's try to get Eddie to find out what's a realistic number in his mind and seek it we make that happen but we got Principato. Who said what up. Cham- how did you see the Tyson fury gloves? You already answered. That just wanted to give his shot out. Because he had that question Cyrus. Boxing says do you think. Fury Beach Wilder and a third fight and why I hope so because I hope so beats dot water. I thought well I think we're seeing site. Don't I want? I want to win because rather I like watching so i WanNa know Danny I wanted to. I wanted to get back on the throne man. Danny Ramirez says What is your ultimate goal in boxing? Down I want my name to be mature. What the rates. I want my name to live much longer than than I ever will. All right Jay Mak in New Orleans says Terence Crawford versus Earth spins junior who you got in y great fight fifty any any one of those guys could beat each other on any given night I'm interested to see how how long how Crawford I mean. How expensive all come back to the car accident Of course wanting to come back in you know we dominate Canoas. Always but But you never know by fifty fifty fifty one of those guys can be to give them back. In my opinion. That accident hit close to home. That it make you think 'cause I know you've got some fast vehicles you had that beautiful BMW in the beginning. Now you got that Lambeau truck do you do you stay. Do you drive safely. Most I do. I really want that to be on his when I was younger. I got like a speeding ticket. Like going crazy Mike so fast I was like maybe like seventeen and everything. My brother just like lecture me about what happens if you hit somebody like when you're going to us and what are you up under a truck. You know he'd just scared me to death ours. I never go back again so I'm trying to fast and I don't drink neither so beautiful champ again and my mistaken or did I see you. Ship your lambeau truck to a Fight Transit Transportation Company So I just transport like where we're I'M I. I can transport cards or wherever wherever somebody else that during world transportation. And that's why I want one. So you transpose from Vegas to what was state was it did because I know I know that we We weren't Halley. Okay okay you know. It's funny because I said that was probably it was like a Sunday show After the fight and I said I seen his truck that wonder I said noting draw four hours so I said did he have someone drive or did he ship it but you gotTa Transport Transportation Company. That's beautiful I wanted to bring up. Your company is well. What made you get into? Cbd 'cause actually works like you know. I've always liked by looking into and then I try some of it now in a actually worked so that's my mom company. Yeah frontman like Mikey. Mikey Garcia has a great me too and he sent me some Gumy's and it does work man. I'm older than you are so I take it for the pain and it works on my knee problem when my grandparents when I knew it work by we when my grandparents were seen that that it works you know. They got the oldest bones and so eight They they begged for me to send him stuff all the time. It works man. It works I wanted to. So what's the name of Your Company? Which are the same? Tvd Okay You want to give out that social media case anybody wants to you know. Get some Cheddar twitter at Road Ebony. No no not yours. I mean the company for the medium recovery. All right. We'RE GONNA go back to the people's questions only two more and you're Outta here if Ryan Garcia and Chang Davis were to fight Nex. Who would you pick to win and Y To pick tank because I just he's too much I mean but it had to be tank tank would have to be going there and be focused. It'd be it'd be takes Ryan might leave it right to be him but I think that he has to my skills right. I last one from just sway book sale. Says what up Devon? What music are you bump and doing training camps? It really just pays all on the training came out and every listen to like the same like the same type of my the newest. The newest music Life at that time so never really liked the same platelets. I'm every training camp. Are We make different songs? That remind you like Oh. I was in training camp. I I hear somebody like an training camp disorient of you know when that song was definite so before I let you go. Do you like travel with photographer. Those iphone pictures up tyco go everywhere with. Hey man you never know you never know. But I'm lacking because you realize so. That's why I'm laughing. I yeah well my patriots mostly because he's asking no definitely definitely looks good. I think One of my favorite obviously. Is You getting a haircut? And you're in Jamaica right. That was Jamaica Bahamas okay. Yeah that's even quicker flight. Yeah you've got girl right there. Beautiful View of the co-. I mean it was just doing thing. You're doing your thing. I'm trying to sell these people. I got right now. Is like every big name in your division inner around on the thumbnail you know what? I mean because if I you everybody is a big fight in my opinion. I don't understand why they crass in in like why are they waiting so long to give you more than paternity like even a C. Mikey's interview and he's like yeah? You know we could do that down the line everybody saw going down. The line is like I mean who's GonNa want me to show some clothes and then they'll say oh I want. Oh yeah well I mean look that Fortuna fight is going to be. You know the real deal. 'cause he's Super Awkward Man. He Sup- he's punches. Come from everywhere traditional at all. But he doesn't work as hard as you man. I I mean I'm Dominican so I know that he just don't work I wish she by going there and dominate have with. I showed that I'm that I'm really. I'm really real no. I think absolutely no one's ever dominated for tuna fish Omar Douglas had a tight fight. With four tumor. Let me see he knocked out yonder. Bill Evans I mean but I don't I don't think anyone has dominated I know there's one fight I think there was any fall out the ring and one fight or something like that. I think it was a Adrian Granados Fi Granados now before tune of our goal is man. He's just a tough dubar. He's a tough tough fight. It's awkward style. Is You know it's a good win if you can. It's definitely a good win on your resume. He's been in with names. He's been in with Jason Sosa. Should we've Adrian Granados Robert Easter Bryant Vasquez if you were to dominate certain Abner Koto? Now let me see Robert Easter. How would I would say I would say the Granados Fortuna? I'm sorry Fortuna Robert Easter fight was debatable. Kazaa Fortuna look really good gave him a hellfire slick fighter like yourself yet if you dominate you you said you fought me. Fortuna could've bought me and the WBZ tournament but he didn't find me Just just female. Then they try to turn tried to turn it down. Oh when when when he knew that I had an injury then they act like they wanted to point when they knew that I wasn't able to because I had an injury before he came out to the public. He obviously knew before everybody else so he act like he wanted to fight me so now we'll see. How does how does that make you feel? There's some of these other champ is I. You know in in and around fee Maga just got to say I can't say other time obviously devante have have stated that they don't really feel like you were chance because of the way you've got the bill yeah What's the question? How how does that make you do what? Oh then stadium at tournament to know that I just said that before. He could have bought me too. Yeah Yeah you could apply this. These guys they'd say anything to to argue super last one. This is really the last what you've been off forever champ. Thank you so much Don't get mad at us. Obviously you and tank went back and forth in. Your tweet was as soon as I handled his business on Saturday. Tank can fight me for the real hundred thirty five pound world title talk and You put. Hashtag only one hundred and thirty five pound world. Wbz Bell to win. I got and he quit. Swallowed it and say maybe such as low as down. I will hurt you bad chip for real they gave you that. Bell. Mom was earn little trump. I mean I mean he probably the one that Thirty you know. He was a real champ at thirty at thirty five he interim no I thirty five as the regular. Happy that you keep it solid. I'm happy that you keep Sally. You tell the truth. The bill de he has is not a real bel- interim before he's not he doesn't have a real belt definitely say no. I are they. Are they trying to hide? The here's the fake boater. What that's not a real. I mean you don't spend any money at all. He was talking before he was talking about fake titles. Stuff now he has. He has the big title. So you way so wait. I'll be because one of those. Wpa's is so do you not respect the WB area or just not the interim or the or the regular title intern. And I know what I would. The actual world title is and he's is actually titled the he doesn't he's got the regular but I wanNA take obviously for your Tom. We do appreciate you coming on the questions from the fans and I'll take some time out to talk with this man so if you WanNa give out your social media you can do so and I just thank you again. I gave my sister. Bdo Colorado All right well. Thank you Ladies and Gentlemen Devon Haney Asadollah questions definitely appreciate that man. I appreciate his honesty. You know in the very beginning trolling. Mikey Garcia and you know honesty about forty seven because I was damned show. I thought I thought he was serious until he sees speaking. And that's why I told you see people don't believe me when I read into emojis. You gotta read them all and I say I said Yo. That's a little bit of a crazy face Emoji so maybe I say I said it right before we got awesome Moji economy. Like I'm fucking around. You know saying is a joke. Like there's some crazy meason I'm just saying is and he cleaned it up but man. I want that Boehner fight. I want to find gotta get Eddie on at Bona fide. Man He gotta get listen Bona Fide. Vassil going to be knocking on the door because look why are you still keep? Devante name in his mouth. 'cause they see two he'll draw all YOU GOTTA. Do is turn into a draw to show that he's a draw which he in my opinion is because whenever you could take somebody else show on short notice still sell it out and it be a success in Isaiah Pomona. Will you know any regional? He ain't from DMV area. Not from over the heat from Vegas. So I think they sleep and plus. He's done some shows in Atlanta. If I'm not mistaken I remember we had What's my man and Atlanta My God I think is James. We had a he covered the FI- force unanimity remain And he had showing Atlanta that he sold out so obviously it wasn't on the level of tanks but it was his own promotion out there. Believe so you know he just needs the right dance partner to get over the top man and Bona's that Guy Mike. Mike is a great fight but Ronan stardom yes. Why do you believe Bona's nine entertained by it? Though like he's retired like was he ain't fisons pack. Yao and it's not. The he's retired is just that that fight retires whether he likes it or not it either retires him or forces him to be a journeyman right or or gatekeeper. Because if you get beat by Devon you gotta you gotTa start all over all over you know. That's why nobody wants to fight him. Having everybody's waiting for someone else to fight him so so he got the mandatory with Fortuna. That's all you need is for. Tuna was already always tough fight. That wasn't an easy by Finola. What if he goes? What if they entertain the Mikey Garcia route? Go through Robert Eastern den Adrian Bruna now. I would love that too. He Got Robert East on his list. You know know I mentioned. He got him on his but he been wanting Easter when before Easter was a chance he won Easter when Easter became a chant. He won't eat. Br brought people been avoiding them. I like or ignoring them. Is the better word onum. I those all hard fights you believe going for tuna. At least I think all those files need the before I think the Fortuna fight is not like am I picking Haney as a favourite. Yes but you know. I gotta get fought. Dow will put him above Ryan Garcia on resume on paper. Yeah and he need their name because Ryan's bought the finally not as and that's not gonNa be you know bump up his resume. Who knocked down Lohman Chanko exactly but also got beat by lamenting almost got beat. But then you know. He almost not almost definitely got the he stopped. No questions asked no judgment is needed. Stop yes indeed. Now that was a great interview and Age Granados versus Robert Easter versus Fortuna. I think the Fortuna fight will be next for Devon Haney. If you ask me seems like the easier no mandatory. He gotta do that fight. So he could stay champion He's champion in recess once. He shows that he's healthy. The in covert is over. They get him a date. He defends his belt again versus as mandatory full tuna and that becomes the biggest name on his resume. All you gotTA DO IS STOP FOR. Two tuners. Never been stopped. Actually he's been stopped once. Jason Sosa stopped them. Dan So he he really against I by Heini Haney to through technical to accurate. He'll beat them to the body. Let me go out to a sponsor's real quick and then go to some boomerangs. Let's get this thing going. You're going you already know but Yeah man anyone I before I jump out or no good genomic goodman unpacked ally on. I just can't wait to see what I mean I. I'm sure there's a lot of listeners that are more Devon Haney fans than are Loma chain. Go ABROAD FANS. Or maybe the matchup see what they talk about. But otherwise I'm good. These calls are brought to you by El Camino electrical services experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation visit us at El Camino electrical services dot com. Remember to raise five stars on itunes so I wanted to play something. Have just finest so many soundbites Eddie I mean as Devon sound by. I'll put a strain on a toilet older. What the Hell is down somebody with corona? Would you show? I see it Ceo Radio. I'm asking you what you know what you're showing you. You are on a podcast. You gotta be audience. Oh you you all new. But that's what it is because well does doctor just stuffed as long as like eight inch q tip halfway up a women's nostrils and she strained like but the caption says and like de you are now given the corona so you know the rumor give. Corona. They're passing out the corona through the testing. Oh I mean there's someone else say. Stay away from the test of Sinai there before like a week ago or stay away from the vaccine. Some shit like that. And that's why you gotta stay away from People. I see on a toilet. They just pulled it out. Nose was nasty man. I can't believe I'm misplaced that Bra. So so mammon now hi Ma'am going out to boomerang. Oh Man I can't I guess Let me go this sport. Total disrespect smartest thing. You can do. Stay away there. If if I'm I'm challenging one hundred thousand million e young dimissed any of US could teams team move on. I don't I don't know I'm assuming they were good. You hadn't both on here now. Just Haney The Sun not not the father. I'M GONNA spend both my boomerang. He's like what he was talking about. What did he ask my question? He said the defy. Okay when I did hear a little bit when you said you want him to fight the I'm looking forward to that onto a what. What's her name? The one that always has closed fights only. Yeah I'm looking forward to that Fight trae Miller was on there saying that Hainault want their fight or something like they Gave up the bill. I think he had a little misconstrued. I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to whatever Danny Evan Haney bring to the table I do believe in For the young Young guys coming up. He definitely wanted to tie one Stevenson so Fortuna Fortuna next moment changle Still high with the protection of Derby See franchise so I mean he gotTa keep chopping down dues until he gets the names. I get the guys in the rain and stuff What was the other topic now? I was just saw them today. Just match making him with all the people and his in and around division going through a lot of his tweets. We Will. You know we were having him. Explain some of them tweets things like that just all Haney today. I missed out on your. She probably was talking. 'cause A T. mobile rate is but uh abby it should I be Nick Tamar Armor? Yeah I tried to Bait a Man. I 'cause I thought I'm now I need to find out. I thought it was Haney so now I need to find out who said that to me or in front of me I thought it was Haney and must have been corden skies. Maybe it was awesome because he is super competitive so maybe he's just wanted them. Dues like Yo before resolve. I gotTA fight tarrant but I thought it was Haney. I'm being real. I thought it was saying But I guess I'm wrong Rahm let me see. I'M A- got a new not a new about to say new caller that's because I'm stalling man. Y'All don't be knowing them doing. I'm over here trying to make everybody happy. I mean what you WanNa get into why you look at that. Do I'm done now. You know there's not GonNa did the lead you know but I'm done because I still like me walk. Because he can't keep going wiped right. So long as intro one of my one of my favorite of all time ever keep terminent views he says sock 'EM DOT COM. Man would have that Yo you ain't. GonNa Answer to your new. Intro was good our letting them get is coming in not as good. That's why all my buds scouts out a focus. Hey No Turmeric. I got my interest. That's Sydney some work. Man You need. You need to email us too key debate. That is too distorted. I hit her in the eye. It when he yelling in the beginning. But whatever audio you put at the end. I don't know what was yeah. Yeah yeah now I gotta fix active fix it. I just ain't got my speaker. Says in the studio working out of headphones. Yeah I get it right though. Yeah Yeah but now good. Good Workman like the interview with Evan Light. And the answer guy about Boots fighting Crawford down the line. Oh yeah he did say he did give you the answer. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah So. You're good you're still get a verbal coming on this week to right whereas sees yea looks like we're GonNa let me see let me see. I think I liked that Infostrada. Actually let me see if they got back to me. Let me see working on Friday. How long it looks like it might be Friday. Might Be Friday if everything goes well. Friday Friday Friday morning. What's up with? Yeah that's how I got right now to be shorter. It seemed like it was like almost forty seconds. Let me see I could give you the count It was just distorted at the end. I don't know what you need is some track to it too. You know like some twenty. Five seconds is twenty. But that's the would if you cut the distortion if you drop it to have right here like fifteen twelve right. There is where he finished Alabama play plumber. Fast forward a little bit because he can't see right there. You GotTa Stop Fan because whatever else. It was said that she can't even be heard but we could faded out there too. We can give him a Lo more and the ad slow fade out again. See how that is now in the studio term because he can't be known would've bag rollout and the barrel Arrow. Oh Earl no no no I mean is he talking early he's talking to but he was He was a he may who do take out the Texas arena was him or was it. The Mexicans member. I I know that in view Earl. Though they asked him about earlier he needed to get back in the rain but people as I said one time one time. Keep on some Tom. I'm a man now man Damn Man Dan but you'll go down an outline of you right there. I remember. I remember your manning go. Yeah that's why I understand. What aim jumping on herb running jumping on a whole lot? You Ain't bring out a little Mike. My but then he turned around he. He put down porter but porter of balancing ties. Man Yopougon advancing me back. I was trying to get him onto air by on a covert. But you've been reaching out to all of them. I'm saying that that's not a reason. Why descend you've been keeping busy? Yeah I WANNA Marwan Man I wanNA mall. What about Cam Pool too? I mean I always get home but we just had him some trying to get song. I that you know. He's west coast so he's he's launched for like Allegra April April Sixteenth Now wait not as. Gabriel Ramirez is percents. Oh so that mean. Gabe is April ninth. Gabe April ninth. Coach Larry Way who trains Shaw Importance? Condition Plus Brandon Lee looking all hot on showtime getting knockouts regard him on on April ninth schedule which SEIS inferior. Mike I and I and Mike Tyson you schedule. I am Mike. All Mike Tyson Iron Mike Tyson. Oh Na thank God listening like who went Mike On. So what about George though? Ideally the doors. I was like Hey George you remember me and then I went to. I went to send them too late and then I realized that's when we hired. Oh boy did they bring his a recorded all our fucking dope interviews Mike Lewis so I was like that showed shooting day. I remember that day. What they're br half meter. Remember that right did I have. You know I mean Would you ever there when when Dominique was their plan? I mean I was in Vegas Dominique here and we did pack as role had shot hours and for the first podcast. I wasn't did You I like on a stumbled a little bit but you you. You left us. Flat saw this when I was like when he was dragging iron Mike question scratching the back. The back of the hat went up. Show now man. I'm I'm working though. Man I I put out something to George saying still weighing on Shirley man with up with your New York City. Connect Dan you. Can't you can't last. Oh Gee you can't x. off fucking Tracy. Morgan put in a word to get. You a publicist number for fucking charlemagne breath. I'm a can pulled over. It is Charlotte. May Is Tiffany haddish man. Not Man. I'm saying that's his. That's how that's how boy. When he came into the set and trae went up to the morning show. It was a little bit of friction. There you know a lovable friction. But you know I if I were to run into Charlemagne. I'll definitely try to get on. That would be. I thought he was once upon a time. A showtime do you. Can't you can't run in you. GotTa you gotTa get somebody on Abba. Now I seen showman's man with the dreads as man's man's so that's like his management. Always publicist or something. I don't know his name but I see them together all the time. I'm I might get a might get a might get Roy Jones on Roy. Jones is good my Roy Jones. He would up with that. What about Timothy Bradley? I try I got wife number. Trial his wife. Shen 'cause you know. He loaded with budding out. But that's the that's not. Come on man if you if you want Timothy Bradley to talk but we must just put J. Mac on now saying for that day. Going TO BE ENTERTAINED BY HAND. Yeah they were. You WanNa see a bunch of like a bunch of desolate. You look now. So will you want I mean? What else is there to talk about? He's glad I gotTA I. GotTa get a bud tenders in butter hood hard time but tenders who attended that like spinoff pretenders or like boss has a thing 'cause bub pretending and you know and buff fans super tender because they sensitive so you know it's a play on aging. I'm nasty words like that. Then they part of the butter hood own saying the hood would no. Yeah I gotTa Stop. Though. 'cause I'm turning every episode because I love to Troll so every episode of I've started to realize every episode ends in Bud. 'cause I love trolling. I'm a troll alike so I know I'm getting on j Mac nerves right now. He's blood boil. It was going to Canada about shortly. Man 'cause can actually really fucks with Charlemagne long ways so hopefully he could do us to favor. But I doubt it but you know everything you know. You don't actually don't know you don't actually know squeaky wheel gets the oil. Yes sir. Let's go to were looks like Brandon. Cincinnati woulda ness whatever Rega- sound. Good yes sir. Yeah This intrigue all this Book Scout Tenders Respect on. Our Name is brexit. S- yeah so it's brothers man. This is like that But that interview man Democrat. He's you know he's always speaking He's a good kid man. Talk All proper. You could tell it was raised right. I like dude. Man Devon hopefully gets good fights alad. I like him to get the Luke Campbell over tuneup. Fight I think Luke Campbell bring some international flair. Tony Awkward but he really do. Let me ask you If he fought Luke Campbell. You think you think Devante GonNa fight him any faster cheating before Tony. Fuck sleep for the mandatory but he got a Fi Brown. May he gotta find a name like that to get over the top right now? They don't want to action with him because he need more popularity. I agree plug it off her name. She made me wait. Study five minutes of my life today to present you made me maybe go back last that damn book for Angel Rios like when God Damn Knock on national knock out knock down. Knock down and do this all good. You gotTA wrong yet. He mistakenly beckwith. Thermic edited tate. Man I seen the CIA in there. I see my said that to you. Now Watch that. I watched the full flight hosted league in everything. Good get Trou- respect on his name dry. No let me ask you in that. Video is it. A female judge withdraws short dreads though. She kinda take things she worked for. Ibm She a black woman. Came to the judge to ref. I meant to say rev not judge judges on our restless man a man because he because he got a book for little bit but was holding. The bit was holding when he failed. Because you know he start lying man you fail. I'm tired of Clinton he got not. Maybe they ain't call it a knockdown. Did you see him? Go down at all at all the news. You stunned you stunt. I doubt it's gotta be that fire. Fight Man. I met Cuban linx that day. I remember that Shit like yesterday but I was years ago. It was like two thousand thirteen telling you. Hey maybe I'm wrong. Don't believe I'm wrong because stone bones. Say he was there too man. I don't know but You know who else? We guys stainless in place to be. Bill Black Gang. Tb chest knows far stone. Seeping foist people. Now let me speak. Science assert a sweet young. Mario lies said he was going to do that. Track land nobody worried about Mario talking about do. Some people are just good at talking. He's one of them was good. What ain't nothing on. What was going on with patient. I met with Shan it for a while. It wasn't even posted at the at the show was live so I miss that any of you know so. Fortunately I'm able to go back and listen to that. Gave me through these last few hours so bank out. I'm here to say in interviews and I'm expecting that good work Well like I said I am at work so as always say please make sure you push thumbs up every episode of the Bucks Voice Podcast is. Tbb PATRIAE. I guess you hit us next week earn. Oh we got Dr Things Alive show on Youtube or is it also patriotic show now is paid. I WanNa get to that point. You know what I'm saying when we get to five hundred I WANNA do Thursdays. Maybe even Sundays. You know what I'm saying but Cut It cut it right. So boom is love right soon as private private only paycheck. Get that linke only Patriot and get the MP three so they could go. Do they run with four hours ad. Free NOAM SAYING I. I called spree cold. My peoples in the advertisements are told them yell every slaughtermen every ten minutes. Now advertise every ten. Make Mad. I say Yo make a mad. How many hookah put not only put the maximum met? Maxim out they. Will you know man wanted for Free? Motherfucker? You're going to get a free. We're eighty hours worth of ADS. Move on our show for our show our of ads for hours. You imagine my goodness now shot out the page Johnny. I'm telling it got to be great to have no no ads in that. I'm telling you because I ain't lying every ten every ten update on them. Let's go to Steve is Chicago to Ringa? Would Yeah Yeah. Hey what's up guys? You're he's one of my favorite fighters right now out of the young group I'm watch him. I don't care who is fighting going to watch But you know and I just want to say I see a lot of guys talking about. They didn't get notification. I got the notification suggestion on the Patriot on you. Need the PIN. The new show at the top is on the life usually do. I didn't do it this time. I you know I use all now. Now you have to show from this or you from yesterday at the top. Not even this morning as soon as I got confused with it to. You had to like scroll down quite a bit to find it so you just going forward need to pin the new show at the top and then that way. I no no no no no no no look I did do it. But they. They have a note as soon as I logged in a heads up we're experiencing some delays. We're seeing delays with certain features and functions right now like email notification discord role assignments post access. So see some people said they can get to the post so it wasn't me it was good. I got the notification but maybe I got the email and all that but then I couldn't find I scroll on quite a bit to find it. Yeah you know this and this is why I love paycheck on those. They said look Our team is working to resolve this delay now and expects to return to normal later tonight so boom they hit you with the Oh young. We don't know we're going to keep you on the night. They already working because they create us. That's the only thing about pay China like they are created as the dislike me. This is what they do for a living they create the dude's name is Jack. He was like a guitar player and Shit. And no seriously bro. Yo I mean but think about it. You'll think he started patriae. Umbro 'cause you had to pay him see him play like UNICEF subway in and look at them that by that too that too but but more like people love this music and one of them to make more but he had a full time job in you know so. It's like Oh look like he. May He invents a page on and you know he uses it in a different way like other creators. They use it but like per video like it's like per creation. I like like for you right you. You big time movie dude. Let's say you had a passion of something that you wrote so you say well. I ain't happy. My goal in life is to act and direct my own movie so if you were a little bit more passionate and you were able to you know express that passion on certain platforms to to attract an audience. That same audience would become your patriots because they know your story and they would essentially be the backers of your movie you know and you do per video right. Even if it's a web series like people do it like that like per web series video. This video cost me. Let's say two thousand dollars to make so when we get the two thousand. I released this video and people do that. There's a lot of different types of creators on paycheck man. I'm telling you man. I opened my mind like this. This podcast is on here. That are like millionaires. Bodes once Cova clears. I'M GONNA come to your crib and we're GONNA shoot out first episode of a Web series of something man you see. What did I posted on paycheck? Unfortunately I'm I'm finding out now that some of these posts you guys are not getting so. Don't forget what I'm saying. There is a post on Clarisa. She's done her cove in nineteen exercise from home Web Series pretty good. I mean she could be better miked up and have better lighting but you know At least she's doing something to stay busy. Christina Poncho also has some content on the the the top rank YouTube channel. She's doing some Live or got no. Nah Nah you wish she's doing some sort of interviews With with top ranked fighter. She has to call on today and then design is also doing what they're calling it quick jabs so the sunlight that called jabs to. I don't remember that but I know that the news when I watch the news like the meteorologists from home. Everybody doctor so was from home. Yeah Doctor Dr. Oz was from home or that. Yeah fury also disown. Workout should write from home from home. Everybody's taking us keep that mental health. Good you know. I ran up and down the block and down driveway. Back Fourteen Times today. Equal five point five miles after the morning. Show what you what you gotta fit. Bid You're using apple. Watch what I say up and down his fourteen times an equal five miles if our point five bra you know how long you've gotta be my block. My my corner got at least me like a quarter mile. So do quarter-mile quarterback I want to know. Know know running. Running at once and back is a quarter mile. I did it with my car. You know how long my block is. You know how long I know we see my dad for guy. I forgot by his his. He got a mansion. I forgot you know you're crazy. He draw you drive in the front and like you pull into his bat in if you want. He got the secret exit to just come out the whole other side so I give. You had two chicks and it's like. Oh my baby malls K. Just come out of the garage. Don't turn on the lights go down a little slick little backstreet. He got EXC ended up in the whole mountains. This is where it is pretty though it is. Let me get to train. Obey talk to me with trae in the bay. What are what up Catholic mass man? I miss the show to bracket I know hitting the area Evan. Haney man from the same city saying so maybe baby. I even get to ask my question. I went on to ask the question and I couldn't see because you know I was going to ask my question. They're asking. You know you know did a Loma Doug dead. You know what I'm saying. I'll go ask him and his dad. Both Leagues Inquiry word. My question all night supplies you know 'cause the ties title in you know what she's trying to say as president. I read that where rule homey look at it. Is You know 'cause you you re run when you talk to other people man Question. I gotta be careful. Let me see. I wouldn't rule them rude. I'm fun man. I don't remember I don't remember. We're asking everybody so that's my first. Call some of the Patriots. Yeah no we just. We just found out they doing maintenance right now. So they're going to have it under control they'll get it back Working by tonight they said so. You know they're they're on the job Let me go out to New Orleans. Actually birth make. That was really a ship. Hey Fuck you Rodney. The Way I WANNA talk to you turn off. Your station was up. Yeah what uh a a re cassidy you make it feel net the camera. I mean I'm making some money I'm not. I'm about to voice money. That's why I'm here every single day. And then what? We have now step up on Patriots. Give it melts. She didn't nobody working name. We might go might go down a little bit now but every day. I miss the show Dan but yeah man idea expanders about but we all miss the show up. They saw mild. How can I go back? Listen to Oh. You'LL PEDRO Managers Guy. Go on and click the video okay and then like in like an hour. I'll have I'll MP3 with no ads on to paycheck as well nets. You nominate taking the on screen in the chat. Do you live your new. Said no man who normally you Texas. That live like in backing skype chat. Lot about what no live by. Oh I did a dude dude. Let me say I put A. I'm put in a chat. Now you put it this time but it's cool my bad but that's all that's all. I got to man all right. All right let me see Ya. Even be sending email notification. I send it as a as a as a private message to the Patriots. I mean I probably didn't do that. Today mcgurk came home early today. Man So probably got distracted Pan Tencent to the lady honesty where we got went to trae wanted to j t went to James J Matt. Right the first one now. I don't think so and tree. Stainless Steve ISOS. J. Matt would would would. These bitches is in this Paul this now he definitely went to him once already right. I I took both my calls on the first one. I got much assume that all right all right so then is either trae. Intrigue will stain this. Who want up first on a boomerang anybody. I know stainless working leave. Intriguing trae intriguing. Trae everybody just listen? So that means somebody could talk about intrigued. Trae maybe GONNA say like Yo is Haney really ready for Lohman Chanko. I mean I'm sure you see that the the reason that people don't see that fight as possible because they're not thinking about the size of Haney Haney his a natural hundred pounds of which means he started the career at thirty five. So that means to get to that we Loma chang-chol started his career. I got what twenty six something like that before. Guy Russell at twenty six and I'm saying so He's moved up a few ways. He's not the naturally bigger man he's going to be in there with a with a naturally bigger man. Andy Ten years younger men. I don't know just like he don't want them. Problems early. Blake. Why do you want that young up and coming? Dude? Who's hungry right now. Like you don't want that he's taking my legacy I want you know. He's he's going to. He's going to go. You know the title. So what about the another name on his checklist? Like tank Davis same thing. Nobody's GONNA pay him is to too much risk. No not enough reward. He needs that I fight to show that he is a reward. I believe reward. I believe put in the right market. They're going to sell out. Haney versus tank in Atlanta cells Ou- Haney versus Ryan In La sells out Vegas Haney and tank Excuse me Haney and Garcia Ryan Garcia in Vegas sells out Ryan. Got The lay crowd heinous from vegas when they left the bay. Yes see I say I say tank might be too dangerous. I say Ron Garcia I think I mean I'm just saying you know a focus tank is a meeting Mike Tyson. Burr focused tank for eight weeks. Haney been focused out of the CRIB. Right that's like that's like. Do the House make fire. Don't stay in shape dawn. Uc Haney posting. The he working out. Yeah you see Tang and that don't maintain doing it but you've got to scratch your head when every other box our here since. Kobe popped off every boxes on social media. Showing you like. Oh come look. I'm saying shape from my house. Not Tank now tank again. That don't mean nothing. It don't mean anything I'm just talking about like if he were to be working out right now behind closed doors and cameras off. Haiti is though Haney in the Bahamas. Running Hainian in Kobe. Nineteen here lockdown working with Mickey Bay. I saw good like I just said what. If tank a focus tank versus a Devon Haney. Is that dangerous? Fight for Devon Haney. I saw I mean I mean. They've been in the ring together. Man They guy they listen Hainian Hem SPA man. Haney wanted to work you. Hear how Haney Sarah Anne say. Oh well you see I got the only WBZ. I got it from this real belt. And what the what the tank saying. Oh whenever you ain't no chance that a little chime say I this make this fight same thing. Haney like y'all would've Ryan this five Ryan like I'm coming out. I'm going after Lenora tank. I'm going after this one then me and Haney gophers like everybody got a plan when it Kinda Haney would up whatever you want to fight him now. Nana take my bill. I'm going to be franchised. Who WanNA FIGHT THE KID? Who WanNa further clarification. Nobody does did only do wanNA fight him so he got he got he got a knock out. You had a knock on the album. That's going to be hard to do. I think one person say right. You did say that Sosa. But but but SOSAS body punches so but Devon is a great punch so and I don't mean power wise. I mean accuracy whereas hopefully Perfect perfect nobody get Adrian Adrian Adrian Granados. Now we are Adrian today. I didn't even call them. Because the show was wild Adrian Clarke on. I ain't even let him know. I gotta I gotTa actually take some like bad champ. Who's having technical difficulties? I never even hit him up to let them know shit was done this morning. Man Yes Ma'am I got there by. Magadan cut out on our we've got the JO. He jumped on. He jumped on Info. Joe In California what is going on inside the show. We call leaving. What's up champs a notification? Either a when you re posted a show so I can go back and listen to it. I was waiting for this interview the MP. Three no the The Evan Haney missed it but how do you listen to the audio? Or you're talking about the video because the video Okay videos okay. I'll go back and listen. They're a May all those men still WanNa be inspired match. Check out the Wednesday in the sky chat Wednesday workout man. We still waiting on you. Nissen cast we got some good workouts on your morning. Show out watching cash ups casualty. Doing he's doing five. He can't get to them. Fifty pushers not so look. Look look Joe. My my routine is this. I wake up at eight. Thirty eight forty five Lee. Wash up real quick. Get on the morning show. I'm messing with the band's after a cup of Tea. I don't know if you watch it doing videos or only listen to audio. I'm like doing bands resistant. Bands chest back shoulders. Bicep TRICEP dropping doing push ups after the show. I'm running five miles it can you? Can we get a clear? Bobby man so you can spy. Are Somebody you click. Well Joe Montana's I'M GONNA turn my phone record and I'm GonNa put it on my boxing fan apparel for slash Patriot Dot Com. You gotta put some Free Poseidon attract people but listen well. We don't get it. I know seeing is believing but also you know filling Israel. I feel it and I'm GONNA do right. Got some good stood on there for you to ask. May staying there doing pushups man. He take a puff couple of puffs. Man Any buzz down fifty do it again. Do Fifty call it. Wow Man young two young for me Mammo Audrey meets it fifty. We'll be up to two hundred a day. Now that's too much. Yeah I'm fifty out of time. Space out no man right now. I ain't even work out is the Jim. Jim is close. I don't do like that. I don't do. I just prefer boxing and man to just the work used to seeing you'll garage. I remember that garage looked like a storage facility right now. No more Ma'am I gotta get back into style. WanNa move man girl slowing us up. I'm ready to go. It's too cold. Oh Man I got the heat you yeah feel you feel you bro. Just don't man. I know you'll be nice cream Michigan man. You know watched one video is being inspired man. You've got a J. It's incredible as pushups man. Now you ain't going to say on an average nobody do. It's it's fun to be fat right now man. Kobe little boo fat sugary snacks. Watch Watch Netflix. With like popcorn. Trying to work out with once it comes May and doors are open an alumina out and then you look at where his motivation. I gotta girl need some women that come out to go work out. I feel good. I added so that was my counter I added in. You want to feel good. Y'All want to like be Cup boobs and all that Young Age. Oh man let me let you begin to Buber Rag. Troy bottled the more. Tell you what up short I be. Good good brother her. Doing your five miles may keep it up. Keep it up keep it up. They used to do it Exit keep on keep on was so funny you keep talking about no no no no. I think I used to do it. Man I keep thanks Donna. Nah I can't insult anybody for working out 'cause I don't you know but anyway but yeah keep talking about technically not last podcast of their toll. Talk About Tang. You told me he was gonNA fix his teeth. And that was great. You don't miss the IB Ta was you. No one told me about right. Exactly what the hell on about. Yeah he says something about tank tanks heading or stuff to fix this teach so you keep talking about tank boy come up. You won't budge. You know say nothing low. Say nothing nine six five. What I mean tank Kenny and reached my chin. You couldn't even handle porter but you don't know you don't know what raising your profiles all about man. Yeah Yeah do man. That's actually fighting the fight and somebody help it in you. Not Not you be is first of all know these widows and gave the the they wanted me to somehow let loose on a professional fighter by the name is Shawn Porter when we spot and gleason 's which was a publicity thing right I. It was being recorded. The media was invited. I remember he won all the main. Was there shortly. May Spoil Porter is for In Barack from the Arken baracks we scientists show SPA Porter. My man over here wanted me to go ham on porter chat. You got to raise your profile man. I roll with the punches. But I'll tell you what you can watch the video and you could see poor taste right hand though. He know all about the Dominican nightmare you know. Say and look I wasn't even you know trying to hit him so I mean Joe Porter drop me because of that right hand like I went down because he wouldn't stop hitting me you know what I'm saying. So he wasn't happy with that. I landed Iran so I know I knew I knew not to get a for one and a new not ever do that again. That's why never spa wild because if you get lucky. I got lucky. Come on let's be real. I was the first time I ever got into bring as an adult like. I haven't been in a boxing gym since I was a kid. We had a gym in Church. You know Not The church. I went to church on on average shit. They had a church. Basketball League to the church was dope man but yeah man that was the first time reporter man so Took it easy on him and he took it easy on me. Troy you keep worrying about porter. Get healthy Everybody Sir all right time to go time to go where the people can find you chat yo TV underscore casual fan is my twitter handle as well as my youtube channel. Check me out man on as I mentioned earlier boxing Fan Apparel Fuller Slash Patriots Dot Com. I'M GONNA post my quick five miles on. I don't know how M- approved that is five miles but I'm going to go to the activity on your phone so I've been activity at the search in an is going to open up. I mean that's another way I calculated. But you trying to say that that any real really calibrated but it is. It is it is. If you've got the FITBIT is well the oath it but I don't know they probably all are gonna serving got an apple watch but I only wear for work. Oh you because you had your phone in your pocket my now my phone in my hand with the music so you could you could count it it council. That's how the hell if you just go to your health monitor at then. You should see the steps. Do and the one with the hot so I show you right now. It's just a you know I put in today. Would you put in a day them? How do you find the mileage on the steps along Broadway out but nasty? Te'o instagram twitter. Boom check that out and she says all Blur Oughta go low bit say summary. But you megan us like killer is. We can't tell you man. I worry about screen shot put on my patriot. They thought one day fifty pushers man. I mean I do. Fifty five o'clock looking like Mario Mario. So my what I do. Seventy five straight ain't never been back man. Mario you'll be drinking banham on and I was he drinking Friday. Mostly Mo- you bodybuilding. Now I know playing what you owe glass of wine. Shali may say one glass of wine a day. Keep you healthy. Well they are go. You've been listening to Charlemagne Lot. I I pay base.

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301: U-Sports Cancelled for 2020; New Reopening Phase; Top 5 Cup Winning Goals

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

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301: U-Sports Cancelled for 2020; New Reopening Phase; Top 5 Cup Winning Goals

"The S WBZ is brought to you in part by all Insurance Ontario Hey. It's Josh From Insurance Ontario I'M GONNA. Guess you're not driving much these days. So why not save a little money? If you have more than one vehicle, send me a text. We can temporarily cut your premium in half a parking, your second vehicle dropping not one to just fine theft and driving one text me at eight, six, zero, six, zero, zero or visit all instead. Ca All Insurance Ontario your modern boutique broker? The S Wpro, podcast, sports and whatever? Hey welcome to our show. We begin our assault on the next three hundred episodes. It's tails of sports in whatever it Stephen Jim Again at Ya. SCHMOOZING kibitzing hashing things out here on the program coming up today we'll get into some you sports discussion. It's no go for the rest of the calendar year for Canadian University Sports. Verbal slip up from an M. A. artist. What else do we got here in this? In this bit of Hoopla, we got The five most memorable Stanley Cup overtime goals of all time. For them happening. On this day in history basically anyway? Lots coming up the exact day. Now we'll give or take. Give or take a week or took. Nice. I'll get to that story a bit. How? Well that's how you come up with topics TV. Make it up. Just make it up. That's great. Yeah, yeah, you know it was. Always said if you WANNA get response, you WANNA. Get emails. Just make a mistake you know. Everyone always says that everything important happened on this day in history. Have, yeah don't forget back in two thousand and eight Steve the. First man landed on the moon. That's right twelve years ago. I cured cancer this morning day. Tell you. There you exactly I will tell you, Steve. You. Know you you a very funny. Take their few shows ago about. here's the here's the news we're trying to get. A cove it for example where they were saying. Hockey is going to start up. Maybe. Okay. Schools schools are going to be shut down. We think so, but we're not sure. All the and all that sort of. You know just trying to trying to keep people engaged. I guess you know it's like. Antero is GONNA phase in. Normal normal work schedules. Perhaps okay right. I love that. And He's still there. I'm still here, yeah? I mean it's all very weird like. I saw the Ottawa public health. Folks put out a thing today. Something pretty dramatic like just reminder everybody, it's not over. It won't be back to normal for a long time probably. Right Anyway what made me think of that was? Wendy Mesli Mesler. Mesler Messi has shown CBC called the weekly Okay and speaking of speeding of sort of a well. There's no story here until you tell you give me. Give me the what happened. And the headline today is. Wendy mezro! He's been suspended because of a word. She used during her broadcast. Okay, you gotta read on Stevie. That's a good hook right there, right? You WanNa know more give. Yeah. And so it goes on for. Another two three minutes as I read through it for five six, seven, eight nine ten paragraphs. And at the end, it's like we don't know what the word is. But. She's been suspended. Well, that's not a fucking story Steve. It's like. Well. In fact. She's been suspended. She's one of. The word of Here. Okay. That would be nice I. Still think there's a story. There's a big hole in the story, but it's still a story. Well, it's you just. GimMe Gimme the. Don't I. Don't think there's a story there until you tell me what it is. What happened? You know right so now? Everyone's getting into that mode from all these sort of 'em. Big bigamous cove eight covert updates. Just like we think this might happen, but we don't stay state. I saw I saw a tweet from Peter Mansbridge. Mistake in. The network do not just. They worked very well. They're not romantic for awhile. I'm assuming they still are I thought okay there, you. Just make it up, yeah! Celebrating. Sixty eight years of marriage. To anyway I thought I saw a tweet from Peter Mansbridge. Suggested something along the lines of she was quoting someone else who had said this word, but used the word while talking about it. Yeah, we'll give me the word i. need the word you. Have to wait. well as racially shoes right, so you can. If. It's a word and we're talking about racial issues. I think we can probably. Pin It down to probably you know three or four words it could have been. Well whatever it is, that's all I'm just making fun of with. There's this you know. We believe there's a story here, but we're not going to tell you. What the big the punches from it you know it's like it's like we're going to have some amazing stories coming up next week in our show. We don't know what they are. But there's GonNa be gripping drama. That's going to happen. That's going to be laid down and and we'll we'll be. Right next week. Well as we jump in today on the sports, Front. Canadian University of Sports. Use Sports as it's affectionately known, it's going to be a no go for the rest of the Calendar Year of twenty twenty and I mean that's everything. It's not like well. Maybe we can do this because it's not a goal for you. Know whatever? No, it's all canceled. And just meanwhile we're seeing the NHL. Major League baseball like they're still trying furiously to salvage their twenty twenty seasons like do they have different doctors in the NHL in the major league baseball side of things? Or are we clearly putting money ahead of safety when it comes to pro sports yeah. Yeah. Probably I guess. I still don't understand it why they're trying to sort of push this through. You know, get bringing more people involved I I was reading some stuff today about premier forward right is is trying to face stuff back in a couple of cities or pissed off I don't think Niagara Falls is part of that deal yet. Based on every region. Doing better I, mean everybody. Are doing better than others, and so the ones that are doing well like where I am in Ottawa. They've been given green light to go to face to and draw reopened gained ten people instead of five people. You're hanging out with and so on. Right! But my my question is. Before I decide. If I'm the guy in the position to make the decision. Premier Ford or somebody else when I ask someone from the health field. So if we start back up with Golfer, example okay. PJ's going to start this weekend. Is there any chance that Cova could make its way into that tournament? Is there you know what what what's the? What's the percentage? Chance here risk of Kovin. And my guess would be the guy goes. Absolutely could absolutely could there's. A understand that there's no indication here of what we're GonNa do that could one hundred percent. Prevent, The virus here from making its way through the gates of the colonial PGA. Vent this week, the Charles Schwab. I'm out Steve I'm out, you know. Okay I while the. I mean you sports decision this week? And then again that tweet from Ottawa Health Ottawa Public Health today that smack me in the face when I woke up this morning. Let me read it to you here. And even got a big. You know graphic that goes with it Hashtag covert wise and statement is this. There's no easy way to say this. covid nineteen isn't quote unquote over. We're not going quote unquote back to normal. We must all become hashtag covert wise and learned to live with the virus moving forward. That startled me a little because it felt like in general basic attitudes that are out there on the street. It felt like we are moving toward a you know a resolution based on people's attitudes in general. Lots of people are still panicking about it like you. And then on top of that, we're phasing in. You know as a Friday here in Ottawa this second phase, it just feels like we're on our way to resolution. And then I see this thing from Ottawa public health. We're not going back to normal everybody Willie. Who Right? Or what else does that say? We're going to have to live with? With a covert life or you have to learn to live with the virus moving forward. What's that mean? I think it's pretty clear what that means. Love like it's okay to go out of the House now. What? You have to go out and take your precautions. Wear a mask. The make sure you're. Doing all the precautions that we've been schooled on over the last three months big time anyway might my bocquet that I'm throwing out there today? Steve You gotTa okay. I got a bulk AARP. Tossing out there goes goes to the university sports. That's the right thing to do. Right. I think they're really smart. No boom haven't heard enough gate. It's still kicking around still got a presence here. People are still getting sick. Yeah, with the numbers are up or down or stable or whatever no, we're going to I. think that's the smart thing to do arena in some degree of fairness, and I agree in some degree of fairness I think I should point out. They are apples and oranges. You know we talked about what pro. Sports Leagues are doing in both baseball and hockey as their proposal like they're going to have these hub cities. They're gonNA have the players you know going to the same hotel and. Playing in the same arenas like he just can't do that in youth sports, it's Nice. It's not cost effective. It's not practical and so with the big money that's on the line. They're able to make these accommodations and do things like the PGA tour like we about in our last episode. They are actually testing. The what six hundred seven hundred people that are going to be on the course, players broadcasters volunteers all these people. They're going to get tested and they're going to get results on covid within two to four hours, but this is none of this stuff comes cheap so they're making. Great Strides in the way they're handling things. Safety angles that they could never think of doing in US sports, right? Know all that being said. Again what what what people are forgetting? Is. If, you're Dustin, Johnson and I. See his name on the on the draw sheet for tomorrow. Crazy Times. Off Before six in the morning I don't know why I mean. It's a big field. Anyway so so dusty, says okay for example I'm I'M GONNA play. And that's all fine. You've made that decision, but there's so many other people who who who have something to say about this. So if you're Paulina, Gretzky dozens wife with two kids, and she says no, you're not. You're not. Play you're certainly not coming back here. Right shirt, certainly see. I got my new teeth in. Feel. Sure surely if feel pretty good Steve. What are they made of like a like a plastic of some kind? Of course, it's a it's actually like a like a porcelain plate, alka and Maybe we'll give a demo one day. Steve on the video, and you the gross side of putting false teeth. No Anyway, what what? What a show that would be? If. You're a family member. Saying, wait a minute, you're. Doing that you're not coming back here. You know I don't want you getting in the car that I share I. Don't want you coming back into the living room. I, don't want you sitting at the kitchen table and if you're the Gulf course where the guy practice is, someone puts up a stink goes. You can't have this guy here. Until! He quarantines after this event So, many other people to consider so it becomes a bit of a selfish thing. If, someone says okay, I've had enough and I'm I'm I'm getting out of the House and I'm going to participate in either work or sports or family picnics or whatever I'm well. Not Not not if I'm related to you bright well, sure hell of a lot safer than going to all these protests that are happening all over cross across North America right now. It's people on people you know compared to a round of golf. Where he might be careful, you know, make sure you get the L. going before you open up the clubhouse that you know. Fifty people have touched that door knob before you like. It's just a night and day. It's I guess it's all about managing risk doing the right things and I guess part of the reason. Everybody's opening right now is they're realizing that this thing's probably not going to fully go away for the foreseeable future. We can sit in our houses. When we do, get out there. We just all need to be doing the right thing and well. There's lots of examples where people are not unfortunately. Yeah, and sports is doing a lot better job. You know under the circumstances is like any other business. They got to try and find a way to carry on. They are returning to work doing the mess they can. Under the circumstances getting the players, the safety precautions they need, and their not inviting anybody to come and watch right. If you look at that, Golf Tournament for example. There seems to me to be so many places so many. Situations where you could still get the virus from the second you you get in your your rental car or your courtesy cart the hotel. Okay? WHO's touched that WHO's who sat in that car? Whose when you pull your clubs out, and you drop them off somewhere. WHOSE TOUCH THE CLUBS! Where's the caddy been? You know when I when I picked up the scorecard at the scores tent touched that you know who's touched the pencil I just. To me anyway, maybe I mean I'm not. I'm not perfectly educated in. Well Steve. What are you perfect pitch, kids? I read some stuff a couple of weeks ago about shopping for example for food, and when you to see you pick up a box of kraft dinner to look at it to see if you're getting the cheesy one, or whatever yeah, so someone says okay, so so how do we figure this out? If nine people ahead of this guy's. Touch the box, and so they're saying well, you buy it. You get home and you're. Wipe it down I. Guess You gotTa do this and and leave it in your cupboard for twenty four hours. Because it can't live on cardboard for more than twenty four hours or something like Oh, okay I hope, I remember that yeah. Well, they're crazy times and I guess it's all about managing risk great. You think about the risk. We all take me jump behind the wheel of a car every day. Go out there, and you can be the best driver in the world most conscientious, but you know like like a virus floating around out there. You've got distracted drivers. You've got drunk drivers. You get terrible drivers. Stuff can happen mechanical failure. You still doesn't stop you from getting behind the wheel of a car, but it's all about risk management and doing the best you can mitigate the risks and I guess we have to start looking at life with covid under kind of the same stir circumstances. Want to change gears here. It was on this date twenty years ago today. The Jason Arnott of the New Jersey devils did this happen. New Jersey are running. Four. Is. giving. The! Six. Jason Arnott scoring the overtime, winning goal game six as the devils beat the Dallas Stars back in two thousand and I. Love the goals like that you think about. Being in the NHL US, just dream come true I'm sure but the thing you always dream about scoring the overtime winning goal to literally win a Stanley Cup and The hockey news put together a top five on that front, and it's an interesting. How many round numbers are in this? Tell me which is your favorite out of these five. We Read Hall increase was in ninety. Nine as Dallas beat Buffalo. This fans losing their crap is crazy. Call that all year what he had done and the following year Dallas as we just talked about, would get burned in the other direction losing the Stanley Cup. Final, but yeah twenty years ago Jason Arnott. Then got ten years ago this week. Patrick Kane scores to give Chicago a Stanley Cup title beating Philadelphia. It was forty years ago. That bobby nystrom scored in nineteen eighty to give the islanders the win over the Philadelphia flyers for their first Stanley. Cup Wins. They started a dynasty and the granddaddy of them all fifty years ago this year Bobby Orr as we talked about in a recent episode with maybe the famous most famous goal of all time flying through the air as Boston beats the Saint Louis Blues in Nineteen, seventy, not to win the cup. Liam's head must be exploding today Liam. McGuire, because you know, he loves those numbers right here. All Nice and round for sure, which is your favorite? Or do you have maybe another overtime goal that you loved? Thought sit right. That's that's ten years ago. Right, said the kit in the Olympics. Yes, sir, another round number, another round number, right? Not exactly to the day, but. I for sure I think about or sure. One of my favorites was There's a couple. I think about playoff overtime goals that Walk off shots, but not to win a cup right, but I think of boats Steve is Herman's overtime. Goal is laser in one up in the top corner Gretzky beating Mike. Vernon, top shelf. Yes, I was there. You're there. I was at that game. Gretzky goal just inside the Blue Line left side right. Yep, and he's the guy that you know of all the things. He was renowned for having the Howitzer Slapshot, but he founded that day. Yeah. I'll. I'll tell you what I was at that game in Calgary, so it was in the Saddledome I went down. I remember driving. I was working with Molson. And I grabbed one of the vans. and. It was kind of weird because it was mean another guy in Jeff Taboo Boo drove down with us. For some reason, he wasn't team, but I mean it was an oiler. But he became drove down with us we had some. Beers Obviously wasn't dressing that. So I was know I'm a rabbit. Oil Fan and so is in my seats and. Jumping up and down Stevie when there was when they did score a goal. Screaming at the wrath. And my buddy was like you might WanNa pipe down here. Okay, there's a bit of a rivalry and want get. The Shit kicked out of because you're being Fuckin- goof okay. Gave right and I was like. Oh, whatever you know. Lit Up Steve is come on, you know, and and and then it started. Then started here behind me, go shut up. Sit Down right is like a little, a little beyond testy Stevie, a great, not just a little fun. You Know Oh oilers sock. Okay. It was beyond that right and then. And then I jumped up again, and I sat down and all I remember Steve is about it felt like like like an octopus. Okay with. Goals grabbing the back of my suit jacket. And my my shirt there was like three guys got in there. Grab me stuck their hands on their pulled my shirt open and dumped bearn peanuts down the back of my shirt excellent. Yeah, yeah! The salted shelled peanuts with with a bunch of beer stevie. down. Not like inside Stevie on the skin here. Okay, not just down. The did not just throwing shit at me, but That that was comfortable, Steve. Three or four hours. I just you know it's a conundrum how you've managed to live this long. Right in the end, though Stevie, Gretzky. Drew. Now Nana Nana Hey A. Good bye baby. Goodbye great interview. By the way I'm not even sure. If we publicized it here on this show, you did a great interview with Gretzky on the suspended bills. you and Russ. courtnall had him on, and we may have mentioned it, but. Worth another plug because it was terrific. Because you've we've all seen Gretzky, a million times in interviews with as being interviewed by Chris Cuthbert Ron Maclean. But here he is with two good friends. You Rest Kornel Guy He. has a pint with and stuff and really enjoys the company, and that really rubs off on the interview. If you've ever wondered here, Wayne Gretzky kind of letting his hair down a little more than you have ever before then I highly suggest you check it out. It was my favorite intro. That I ever gave him that one. Every mundane thing about him. He kind of got back at me after he's like. He's got nine and a half shoe. He way watched the full episodes of Downton Abbey likes to down. WHAT'S LIKES TO DANCE LIKES TO DANCE? But he's not very good. He can carry a tune, but he's a shitty singer. Batted cards. He didn't seem to like that very much. That's the one right and I said. He's A. He's a GIN rummy player, but his mother in law keeps kicking his ass. Areas winger and he's like Hey hey, easy man easy on the her kicking my ass. How compared, are you? It was great. It was great. Thanks for the plug and check it out while absolute fifty. Even numbers everybody clamoring. They WanNa back for ninety nine episode number ninety nine. Yossi seemed like some decent symmetry. Anyway, the other Stanley Cup. Winning goal scored in overtime. Since Bobby Orr in nineteen, seventy include Jacques Lemaire in nineteen, seventy, seven against the Boston, Bruins, Colorado, their first, and only title in ninety six was off the stick of the Great Ovais, Croup and the only other one. The most recent one was Alec Martinez with the La Kings in two thousand fourteen. A change gears again talk a little bit about Gulf. Or Gulf starting today God love that and we mentioned in the last episode that they're making a bunch of the players up and well now there's pushback. Justice Thomas, who ironically enough was actually part of that. Kind of exhibition event that we saw with the two quarterbacks. Peyton, manning, Tom Brady playing. With an against Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods, JT was one of the analysts on course, and he was a lot of chirping and having fun. But as far as a competitive round of golf which we have happening this weekend Justin Thomas Says No I'm not wearing a Mike. That's not me what I talk about with Jimmy, my caddie, and when I talk about with guys in my group is none of anybody else's business, no offense. That was kind of the way you had predicted. Things would go yeah. I Love Justin Thomas for his comments, because he he, he always gives you a reason. He does he doesn't just say. No comment. or He's not, he's not laying about takes a he's. He's very straight ahead. Man and saying. Like he did here. No, it's no one's business. Right and most your agent or your PR guy might be. We don't. We don't offend anyone. Don't forget these guys in sponsors and all that stuff and he's he's like. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. You know I hearken back to Brooks Koepka. WHO's apparently not very popular with the players and Brooks's sort of act in a few ways that people go only gone down. Dial it back buddy. Where he said. Now, he's really good. Of course. Anyone falls golf. Remotely knows that Brooks Scapula's. You know one baton to pizzas and all sorts of other ship, right? And, they said. How much do you know? How much do you practice? And he said well the only time you'll see me. Is is on TV or something like that. Remember that comment saying that's the only time you'll ever see me playing golf as when I'm on television, I don't practice. And sort of like really shut up, dude, right, and then and then what happens is. He poses. For a magazine on the cover and he's naked Steve Okay Brooks is. Sort of covering up all the vice barnes tastefully. And when I saw it, I'm like. Yuk Okay. Let's leave it up to the swimsuit. Models for sports illustrated. A because one of those things where I know what everyone's thinking going? Really. Get your fucking gear on and off the cover of that magazine. Fat Or something what. It was just sort of weird that you got a naked guy on a magazine like G.. Q. Or whatever it was not espn the body issue. There's been dozen. Great athletes who've done that so yeah? Like. Man Okay got it. Justin Thomas. Weighs in on his instagram. SORTA quoting who whoever? The news outlet singer ESPN saying. Pick up your copy today with Brooks, kept on the cover. He has that coordinate goes dot, dodd and says. No I'm okay, thanks. Pass sort of deal. So I like I liked that guy but. That was gonNA come out and. Golf for a little while there any as obviously been a consistently a top ten guy. He's got twelve wins, and he's only twenty seven, so that's a hell of a Golfer, but he was going through a little spell. There was like you thought that he was going to be the next tiger, but he sort of fallen back to be one of the top ten now and winning, you know. Appropriately based on being just one of the top ten, but for a while there, he really gave me a vibe like okay. This guy is the way he's the next tiger. Years ago, he went back to either back to back or to to events in Hawaii. You know like really good like to win in that PGA you gotTa be good, but and I saw at the PGA right. He's small man. He's not not a very big guy, and so to be able to hit it out there with these other long bombers. You got lots of game. You know, so. We had six wins in two thousand seventeen, so he was like. Really percolating in twenty seventeen and since then he's had. Five wins, so he's. Still an excellent Golfer still don't get me wrong, but for a while there. You WanNa PG that same year. He looked like a guy that was just gonNA. Late everybody. and He's and he's fun Steve Follow Him and like like him Ricky Fowler. there's there's a couple of other guys on tour that they all hang out together Yup and and have a riot Thomas Sherzer House with both Rickie, Fowler and Jason Duffner and also Kevin Kisner in that mix as well so they got a little. Little. Little PG, RATPAC! I Guess Smiley Kaufman. I think is the other guy. And there's a great youtube video. that. You can look up where they're sharing a house. Justin Thomas I think it's ricky and Jason Duffner okay. The frumpy guy right sort of low reactor guy that. People have been making fun of him, but his weight. That's been up and down shit like that right and he he's he's not very. He doesn't look very athletic. Okay, he's not. He's not ripped like Capco or lean machine like Dustin, Johnson or even bryce. Shambo went away and gained twenty pounds of muscle. And duffner is like the Craig Stadler of the modern era. Golf you. There the backyard. Okay, fuck it around and got the soccer ball out and Duffner in net. Was! Just in her, ricky kicks a ball and it's it's just too. Duffner is right. You know it's like. It's a pretty easy. Just stick your hand out and fucking dives twos right. And almost breaks his back. Move Hilarious it's and it's great that they put that shit up you. Well. It's great to have golf backed out. I'll say that. There's no no doting that keen to see this weekend. When we come back in the show, we'll talk about an unfortunate attempted trash, talking, and as well the city of Ottawa with a climate report. That makes you want to raise an eyebrow. That's after these words. Hey, it's Josh from all Insurance Ontario I'M GONNA. GonNa Guess. You're driving as much these days, so why not save a little money? If you have more than one vehicle, send me a tax. 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Remember the name grams tree stump grinding contact them today on facebook. How about this? Guy. I think he'd just finished a workout or maybe he'd actually just finished a fight. But he decided he wanted to do some trash talking. Let me saving. They get the name for you here. Don't WanNA. Be inconsiderate, although you know what as I played, he'll probably be just as glad if I don't mention his name. Because the trash talk well, it didn't come across very well. Is Hype Shit everyone talking above. The Greatest Guy and You better when your fight because I'm coming on way, I'm coming for that ASS. pull us, so there's Al Jemaine. Sterling, who probably never gonNA live that one down i. know what he's trying to say, but yeah. Oh No! You WanNA fight that guy. Going to punch me in the face. I didn't know that was coming. I'll tell you what he's GonNa do a lot for viewership for that when they're going to see I. don't give a fuck how we how we fights. I don't care how many rounds he goes. Someone stick a Mike and his face, okay. Get that going right away all hands. It'll be about it's. GonNa be about nine thousand reporters Steve Show up for an event there and what's going on? Yeah well dudes fighting here just want to. We just like to talk to him for a second before he jumps into the ring. You think he enters the ring. You're thinking you know ACDC thunderstruck or something the real hardcore music. You're not thinking about bounding. Wow, your. Guy For A. Good spot to call it a day. Joined the golf. I've got to watch it. Let's finish this good. Good night, everybody we'll see.

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NFL Draft Betting Podcast with Thor Nystrom of Rotoworld April 22, 2020

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NFL Draft Betting Podcast with Thor Nystrom of Rotoworld April 22, 2020

"Thank you for joining me here on this Wednesday April Twenty second edition of Bang Book Radio My Name Is Anna Burke your host the next thirty five to forty minutes or so as we talk about the NFL draft with Thornton from Rota world got a lot of draft coverage over at Bangor Book Dot Com. Right now forty to check out. Please make sure that you do that. Also in lieu of the box. Tomorrow we'll be talking some. Nfl draft with John Ryan so back-to-back days or three days in a row talking about the NFL draft on bankable radio certainly encourage you to check out all of those different shows and encourage you to check out size sportsbook if you use that Promo Code Btv and the number two hundred one hundred percent deposit match bonus for the Sports Book One Hundred Percent Deposit Match Bonus for the live casino at the SL. It's only game until you bet it and we bring on today's guests. That is thorn NYSTROEM from Rota World. Thor great to chat with you again. Horia MR Burke to be back with you that's great to have you back on. This show made everything going well. I know you're busy now. Everything is gone tremendous added Christmas Eve right now. We're right on deck for the best time of the year of Merry Christmas to you. I can't wait for the NFL draft to get going. And I mean this is. This is definitely a sweet spot for you. You do a lot of stuff with the NFL draft over at Rota world and we'll go ahead and start here with I talked about by. Mlb betting guide as a Labor of love my season preview of all thirty teams all the division pennant futures player futures. All that kind of thing looks like your Labor of love. Is your big board over at Rota world. Five hundred players strong great job with it man. They said Yeah it certainly is at you know we go five hundred deep but the other thing that truly becomes a labor of love is five hundred player comps which get pretty ridiculous when you get into the you know the UDF as it. Get down there but I I do the best I can with that you know. Dig Up on all these players. Their athletic profiles. We HAVE THEIR SPARK. Scores in their rascal. Justed sparked scores all that kind of stuff. And it's kind of thing where you know ever since I was a kid. I was obsessed with two thanks college football and NFL draft. And when I was watching the draft as a kid you know I'd watch all seven rounds. I was as sick going back to like ten years old. I remember being at like John. Strauss's birthday party like when it was the Radi Moss draft and like so Vikings Fan. And I remember knowing that the fulcrum point for Moss was the Dallas Cowboy as pack. And so I was like you know everyone is downstairs. Playing Mario Kart and I'm like you know sort of steel myself away from my friends of sneaking around the house trying to find another TV. Get get to the broadcast of who the cowboys are. GonNa pick. It wants. Boss gets by their. You know like like like you're crazy man. What are you talking about? You know and stuff like that but this five hundred player thing you know. I would always have a magazine and so be crossing off names. I went well those billboards who's usually like one hundred or sometimes one hundred fifty players or whatever the most you'd ever see be like two hundred. Well they run out at some point seventh-round or whatever but certainly by the time you know the Vikes or these other teams start signing. Udf as on Saturday night. I didn't know who those guys where but the UDF process seemed like a big deal. You know these guys are getting signed so I figured you know once I had this job as a job I always wanted to write about the NFL. I always wonder do a big board. That was big enough to encapsulate. Not only the entire draft but also what? I consider to be the second draft. Which is the process right afterwards. Ed a lot of valuable contributors come out of that process so I wanted to have a big board. That was big enough that one Saturday nights over and all of a sudden. Udf free for fans. We'll have that thing they'll have all the names crossed out of all the guys you know and I put out my best available you. Dfa's on Saturday night. So it's just the guy's going to be a list of almost three hundred guys. You can check in real time. You know who your team is signed and who. They're calm to their authentic profile. Different stuff like that. So True Labor love and I do love it. All and it's it's definitely an awesome thing as well like you said a lot of UDF as and something else. I've kind of been reading about too. Is that you know maybe the supplemental draft winds up being really big this year. Because we don't know what this upcoming college football season could look like so that winds up being a pretty interesting thing to cover as well but looking at your five hundred strong big board here. Everybody's doing mock drafts. I mean every site out. There has tens and tens and hundreds of these things now. Because there's really not much else to talk about here in the world of sports I know that not only. Are you writing a lot of stuff for a world? But you're also soaking up a lot of information looking at a lot of the other sites you know kind of what they're looking at sort of formulating your thoughts for your own mock draft which will be posting on Thursday. Probably over at Rota world so with that in mind. Who are some of the guys that you feel like? Maybe you're higher on than everybody else. Maybe a little bit lower on one of the guys that I'm higher on everyone for sure as viscous you know the wide receiver from Colorado and Adam I know you and and whoever else out there is is a huge college. Football Fan watches the college football game. You're probably with me. 'cause you saw the viscous Chanel dominate in the PAC twelve whenever he was healthy just take on other teams by himself You know he his issue is that it was hard for him to stay healthy and the teams have some trepidation about about that and also there was a dearth of creativity on the Colorado staff which sort of forced to La Vista because number one because he was a singular talent and also because there was no one that was even close to as good as him where they were just forcing the ball into his hands over and over and over again in these these various ways as a wildcat quarterback throw into a two parameter thrown at them and intermediate sometimes downfield but not so much downfield he. He should have had more opportunities to show what he could do as a wide receiver. He wasn't given that opportunity almost because of just how good he was. And because of how SORTA poorer offensive staff was specifically last year and because of that usage in part his body was not able to hold up to some of the rigors of the hits that he was taken because of his game. The the kids absolute Gamer like He. When he gets the ball he runs like a running back in like a mean running back like he is trying to run over. Defensive Backs but he's a guy who's fabulously athletic. He didn't get to submit a full athletic profile In Indianapolis which might be another reason. Why he just dropped a little bit He it looks like he might fall into the second round but I think he's going to be a tremendous value if he stays healthy at the you know in the NFL. He's a guy that to me. You could be a top ten top fifteen type Value I nineteen just digging them a little bit for the durability stuff but to me just in terms of talent. He's pretty damn close to a top ten town in this class so that would be one guy. Denzel mims is. Another guy was quickly here his first round. Yes no problem. Seeing plus two seventy five plus two eighty out there to be a first round pick. Do you think a team with a first round pick. We'll take him or are those injury concerns just too big to overcome so in a vacuum all the way up until a month ago. I would've said Yeah. You should take those odds. I mean just in terms of talent him against some of these other guys like he's more physically gifted these guys and he's also showing more on the field then a lot of these guys you know. His degree of difficulty was higher than a lot of these receivers. That are around him but the tide seems to have turned around against him where he's like sort of the forgotten guy amongst the top group of that receivers and the health is a big part of it and this sort of goes into the time that we are in with the corona virus and he. I think is sort of a victim of his circumstance that he was a victim of circumstance in some ways just being Colorado. I talked about that with the usage. He's also sort of a victim circumstance as far as just what this process was because he wasn't able to get into buildings and he wasn't able to get examined by these various teams as doctors and stuff like that and we saw this with a two hour where. There's a bunch rumors about you know. Different stuff with to his health and stuff like that and a big part of that was just because to wasn't able to get examined by each interested teams is parties medical teams and so they have to rely on a different doctor. Even though that guy was a world renowned hip expert they have to rely on his word. Well the NFL's already a paranoid league as is and so like you know. A guy like Levinsky Chenault like if the NFL these teams they have to rely on some other teams as medicals and they know he's been dinged up here these last couple years. I think you're going to be less inclined to sort of give him the benefit of the doubt and you're going to be more inclined to just sort of play You know things you. You're going to be more inclined to play things really risk averse and Adam you and I were talking before before the show about you know th the way that that this whole situation plays out during the draft like you know the way. It actually manifest. You know it's going to be crazy draft. It's GonNa be something we've never seen before. But I sort of anticipate that we're going to see less trades because they're going to be more difficult to complete and you know in a lot of the employees a decision makers are going to be off on their own so you know you have less heads in the room and stuff like that but then also you know in terms of like a like talking about drafting guys that have these higher risk profiles because of medicals where you didn't have your your own team examined them. I think it hurts guys like that. Because you know these these GM's they're just like us where they're concerned about their jobs as and so you don't want to you know. Make a selection that might cost you your job in a year or two and so like you know if a guy did use whatever I think. Chenault is worth even with the medical question. I think he's worth at the top twenty pick but you know if a team were to use that on him and let's just say the medical it did turn out to be bad and the media's asking him well did you. Have your doctor examined him. And he's like well no. I couldn't and it's like you know all of a sudden the Thai could start to turn on if you know. Turns out to be a bus because his body betrays them. I think that stuff plays into these decisions more than we know at home and I think that's why the tide turns against them a little bit the odds that you suggest. Maybe it's worth a flyer but it really does seem like like I said that that tide has turned against them so even though to me he is an absolute clear-cut first round talent. I just don't see him mocked in the first round anymore. This is from a lot of guys that get really good Intel. So either teams at the end of the first round that need receivers are keeping a really close to the vest in new and a good job of of concealing their interest in channel or the the medical the their concerns about that or their paranoia about that is so pronounced that they are going to allow a clear first round talent to filter into the second round. Now another name that you were starting to bring their before I stopped his Denzel mims and Denzel mims Now yes to be a first round pick minus one fifty out there online yes to be a first round pick minus one ninety five at five times so this is a guy with some first round. Helium seems like the expectation is that he goes in the first round here. Yeah and I think that he will He has less questions. Although I don't know if that's founded It's funny like him against Journal like I. Donald Nineteenth overall I twenty fifth. Mim Says Questions in his evaluation as well. They're different but again it's just because this the the way that this processes mims was able to answer some of these questions about his evaluation to the minded the NFL to his risk profile. And what that was with names is last season starting in two thousand eighteen. Men's a really talented guy but in two thousand eighteen baylor broadened Jalen Hurd. They sort of filtered. Their offense jalen heard a lot of intermediate stuff her playing in the slot. They're thrown into him a lot and Mim sorta like struggled in in this role in this new role that he was in and he dropped some balls. He played down a little bit last year his game jump back up again but he was only really running two routes. All they really did with him was sent him deep run fly routes or send them on slants over the middle it was. It was literally just basically two things and so he. He was running. This pruned relatively well so going into the season into his process. There is this idea of like you know he's a guy that that maybe he can't move his well laterally because we either see him running vertically or else it's just that the straight shots across the middle or whatever so maybe he just doesn't have it in him to be able to run more of the a more diverse route three or whatever but then he goes to mobile at the senior bowl and he was just cooking cooking. Cornerbacks down there in all kinds of routes. I mean whatever you needed to do was just destroying people and then he goes to the combine and tests as a ninety fifth percentile athlete at wide receiver at six three two seven and so he was able to answer all those questions about his evaluation and sort of put some of that stuff to bed. The the other thing about mims is and I think some people realize I see People Nitpick Mrs Game by saying like I saw him push off a lot on tape or you know I you know He. He has some drops and some of this different stuff. What people need to realize is denzil? Mims is the only wide receiver. Think about this. He's the only wide receiver prospect of this class. Who did not have one catch off of a screen pass last year? He did not have one manufactured touch last year at all. It was literally just stuff down field or else stuff over the middle. Every single catch that he had he had to work for so his his degree of difficulty was hired in some of these guys and he was doing what was asked of him that that was what Matt Rule and what the system was you know had asked of him or whatever and he did Pretty Dang well of it. He was one of the better downfield guys in the nation. I calmed. Dj Shark. Who is a guy who fell into the second round but he's having a pretty damn good career so far you know in a guy who also had a very good athletic profile as well so. I do think that mims goes because you know at least perceptually. He has a lower risk profile. Just because you have everything there as far as the athletic profile stuff. He doesn't have the durability concerns. Sure not was a better player in a vacuum apples to apples when they were on the field that stuff with the durability stuff at the NFL's paranoia. I think that's why mint has moved above him at least perceptually since we're talking about wide receiver so let's go ahead and talk about the top three here the class of the wide receiver group. You've got CD lamb. You've got Jerry. Judy you've got Henry Rugs and if you look out there in the marketplace right now I wide receiver drafted CD lamb minus one twenty. That's one of the numbers that's out there. You've got another minus one twenty out there at five times so the same number of Ben Online and five times. And also you've got exact order props out there. Bet Online for the order of lamb judy at rugs that order specifically in terms of the order of them being drafted plus two thirty to go lamb. Judy Rugs Judy Lamb. Rugs is plus two sixty lamb. Rugs Judy plus six hundred. How do you sort of see these top three wide receivers shaking out here? The one that would be interesting there as far as like if I was gonNA take a flyer. I think the one that you just mentioned that I would take a flyer on you. Know like I think the one would be lambs. Rugs Judy just because of the odds. Because you said that was plus six hundred right lamb student at plus six hundred if there was if there was one of the I mean. I mean. 'cause you know perceptual. I wide receiver off the board. I think that there is a good shot You know of course. There's a shot that judy could go as well. But I but there's to me there's no shot that lamb is the third one whereas I do think that there's a shot. That judy is that there is a shot. That rugs goes before judy. I I don't think that there's a great shot but I do think that there is a chance you know I mean rugs has. He's got a card to play that not many people who have ever entered the NFL. Do you know that high octane? Athleticism that four to speed. He's got to the tyreek hill thing going for him. And the other thing that rugs has. I don't know if a lot of people realize this about him. He has the second biggest hands in the wide receiver. Class of all these guys. Can you think of all these freaks? We have in this receiver class one of the best receiver classes of all time. We have we have guys in this class. Where like six six to twenty. We have all these monsters. Henry Rugs has the second biggest hands of the whole class and not only that. He only dropped like one or two balls last year. Like he really doesn't drop drop balls at Alabama. They threw the ball a lot more to judy. But rugs is just an insane athlete. And if people out there have seen rugs is a high school basketball highlights. He has done correal where he's just like it. Looks like a video game. You don't get over people so rugs is a little bit less refined his routes art and it's good but I caught him a little bit slack for that because my whole thing is like when you're running in the four it's a little bit harder to have the fancy footwork yourself down a little bit because just because you're moving faster than the speed of sound you know what I mean like. It's just a little bit harder but I could see a scenario where You know we're we're lamb. Goes I I? I think that that is the favourite outcome. I certainly I would be a proponent of that and that you know that rugs could potentially move ahead of duty. I do think judy probably is the second guy to go. But Judy did. Not Have the best process lamb had had a great process but Judy didn't have the best one he went to. The combine didn't test very well. He had a very hit a weird thing with the Star of David Necklace. And then he he explained it later on okay but like at the time it was weird people and stuff like that and then There was a report that just came out of a surgery that he had a year ago or so or two years ago. The that we had known about before. It doesn't look like it's something super serious. There's just been a couple more things with him that I you know heading into the process. you know he was just a bit higher and a couple of things of dinged him just a little bit and again rugs. Has that sort of thing where he has this trump card where you call him a field tipper because even plays where he is not involved. You have to account for rugs. Every time he moves the safety back single play. You need to know we're Henry. Rugs is at all times because he gets downfield so quickly and he catches the ball if you put it in his vicinity so I could potentially see a team saying you know if lamb goes first and then you say like Adam you WANNA talk specifics. Like you know I think I think there's a chance that that the first wide receiver off the board. You know it could be. It might not be Vegas at twelve. You know like I mean we might get the four tackles off the board. The fourth one might be the jets there at eleven. I know Cleveland's GonNa take on at ten. They might be a third one especially if Arizona at eight takes one right like. I'm pretty sure the giants at Ford are going to take one so that would be. That'd be number one assuming that the dolphins and the chargers go. Qb One of them might take a tackle. It has been a rumor. But you know if you're GONNA get potentially the second tackle their Arizona but we'll just say either way that that by the eighth pick two tackles are gone. The third one is going to be gone at ten. I think in that scenario almost assuredly the jets take the fourth one because we have the big four tackles in this class and they badly need to tackle so you you would almost certainly be forced to their well in that scenario the first wide receiver off the. Ah IN THAT SCENARIO IT would be probably at twelve unless you know a team like Jacksonville decides to skew. What is probably a bigger need another position or a team like that but Arizona's already traded for a receiver and stuff like that so. I think that there's a decent chance that that the first receiver off the board. It's it's around that twelve th pick. I would assume that that lay. I'm just because I think he's a better better. Prospect better process that the careers of the two guys were were very similar but I think he you know slightly better. They're slightly less questions. And then the next pick their San Francisco That might be the the next receiver gets kind of interesting there. Would you go? Judy would go Rugs I mean it's it. It gets kind of interesting there so I mean yeah at odds like that you know I. I don't WanNa prop like that if I would take if I would just go chok I might take. Am I take the odds in a on a smaller bet? And just just trying to play the odds as you take a look here you got. Cd Lamb over under twelve and a half kind of seeing the same number for Jerry. Judy out there. Twelve and a half the juice different though lambs juice up in the minus two hundred range to go somewhere in the first twelve and as you mentioned twelve probably the landing spot for him if Kyle Shanahan. It's got a choice between Jerry. Judy your Henry Rugs. That's really interesting. Because does he want the route runner. The guy that you figure Garoppolo can maybe get the intermediate stuff too. Or do you want the home run hitter and rugs who's also got the really big hands and maybe that can kind of sort of grow into that profile. Should be really really interesting to see how those wide receivers shakeout. What about the quarterbacks we know boroughs going one? Barring some sort of completely strange in odd circumstance is two of the second quarterback off the board or is it just in Herbert. Do we just mentioned you think that this may be more conservative. First round in terms of trades. So maybe we get your the second quarterback taken at five something like that. Maybe somebody trades up to take the giants pick at four but right now it looks like to going. Five is what the betting market thinks. What is sort of thing? Yeah I I think I still think tour to the dolphins you know and I thought that even throughout all this smoke were you know it started to be like no the dolphins actually like just in Herbert and they're concerned about too. Because the way that I thought about this is like we knew going back like a year. Plus that the dolphins like to I mean that was one of the worst kept secrets in the draft. Media's at the whole thing of tank for two and all this stuff and it was specifically with regards to the dolphins and then all of a sudden it was like two weeks ago. Three weeks to go. These media reports are coming out of like no. The the dolphins are actually really concerned about You know to happen actually. Don't like him as much as as they had lead on. Their guy is actually been herbert all along. And that's the guy they're targeting and stuff like that and you start to see more and more reports about that and you know and so it. It was really strange. Because it's like okay well so either that's true and the dolphins have just horrible leaks in their organization because they had to do with shut the hell up and everyone would have gone into the draft assuming that they love to because that was the narrative the whole time all they had to do is just not leak it and Herbert just sort of fall into them or they're the dumbest organization in the world and they you know they. They evaluated for whatever reason Herbert to be their guy but they they let the secret leak out. Which would allow a team to hop them. So you think what? What's the more likely scenario that that they are such a poorly run organization that they would flip the prospect that they had lights all the way through up until the last couple of weeks before the draft change it and then start telling all of their media contacts or for that they still like to all along as we knew and that they let this out because they want to it a fall to them without having to trade up it. It seems to me that one of those scenarios is way more likely than the other But I guess we'll find out how well or poorly run. The dolphins are wooden. Would we tomorrow night? You know so you got to walk under five and a half minus one six year so same thing to me. The second quarterback drafted that makes sense. Five Miami makes sense. I don't know if anyone's going to trade up ahead of Miami to get him. I don't really necessarily see that. Being the scenario some people think. Maybe there's a chance that somebody takes the lion's pick and takes too but I don't really see that being the case Herbert. The third quarterback drafted minus one fifty. That makes a Lotta Sense. What about Jordan love? I mean how do you think teams are kind of viewing this guy where you've got over under nineteen and a half as his pick over nineteen and a half pretty heavily juiced minus one ninety so the expectation here that Jordan love not taking the first nineteen picks of the first round? That sound about right to you. So what are the odds of going below nineteen so a twenty year or lower? What what what are the odds are going over over? Nineteen and a half so twenty or higher here in twenty languages always such a pain in the ass here because you think under and you think well it means he's going to go later but actually pick twenty or higher in this case minus one ninety Jordan love. Okay Yeah I you know the way that I see it i. I think that he might be fun a little bit more than that. Because that you know with at the Nineteen Vegas is saying. There is with the raiders. Second PICK IF THE RAIDERS WANT JORDAN. Love so bad. Why wouldn't they just take him at at twelve first off you? Would you would risk getting hopped and the second thing is is like Jordan. Love the the risk profile there is you know is is quite high. People out there like Verdon. Loveless was awesome in in two thousand eighteen. His TD ratio is like thirty to six. You know something like that. And then he. He was playing with a couple. Nfl players. Darwin Thompson was one around Cuevas. Tarver Dax Raymond guys like that and he lost. Some of those guys lost his. Most of his offensive line has his coaching south laughed and roster. That came back was horrible and a new coaching staff. And last season Jordan. Love was was quite bad. You know I mean like the Pro Football Focus says an advance winds metric that show like Jordan. Love is essentially like an average player last year and td I n t ratio was was like barely above one to one I. He's either led the nation and interceptions thrown or was staying close to it. He was already he already had some raw elements to his game and then last year Decision making and the processing of the field. He got some really really bad habits ingrained into him where he was trying to like. Take on the whole way to the world you know some players and then you know other drives. He was just really frustrated and it was just like his. His brain was melting down. He does have a ton of tools you know in terms of his build Just about perfect six. Four to twenty four tested in the seventy fifth percentile. Very athletic and the ball just shoots out of his hands but again the decision making process is Sorta playground d you know and the NFL doesn't really suffer that you know so it's going to require work and to take a player that high especially in a draft class like this. It's really stacked there at the top. You would have to take love over a bunch of these guys that are that are sure things you know what I mean like. You know. We're talking about like you know. These guys were bathing about these names. Like lamb and judy. And we're talking about the tackles like Andrew Thomas and jeter quills interest in worse and MCI Beck in we talk about the edges like chase on Justin Jefferson and other name the corners like. There's there's so many guys here sure there's GonNa come a point of demarcation with love where it's worth it but for me. Nineteen you know I. I just don't know about that. Like the the raiders got a couple of guys they got a car and Mariota like And I think that they think that they're getting pretty close to their contention window They seem to be an organization at least recently under mayock and under group and they have been taken guys from these established programs. Like I have this joke. Where like Clemson and Alabama like half? Their picture are from there whatever. Which by the way going back to the product. Maybe maybe that's more a data point of like rugs or Judy with twelve picker. Whatever but although I suppose Oklahoma's is also a blue blood but the raiders have been sort of going that way And so you know just in terms of would they sort of take him above what what myself in. Some of the other guys. That do this for a living. Think that loves ranges will maybe. Maybe they feel that they're that desperate and they feel that like cars absolutely Mariota's absolutely they cannot roll forward with them after this season but I don't know that they would send that message to their their roster going way. I. I'm not sure that that's the right decision for them. I I tend to think that love is going to go in the twenties But that's just me. It only takes one team in the second. That just in Herbert gets taken. Love is sort of on the clock you know so I suppose. That's where the thing about him going in the teens comes in but it is a good number by Vegas. You know. That's that's about where you'd said it. But I don't know about the raiders. Take him there with with the second. Pick 'cause I yeah anyway. I don't know why you wouldn't take them with the first one to guarantee them if you like them. That much aren't so. Let's talk offensive Lineman here because as you mentioned I mean. There's there's a chance that we've got four tackles taken here. In the first ten or eleven picks for the longest time Tristan worse was the favourite to be the first offense lineman drafted and we kind of expected that at four to the giants. But now jesuit wills the favorite minus one ten out there at online at his draft position over under eight and a half under the half at minus two. Oh five but that looks like a pretty easy bet to make your point in time with probably two tackles coming off the board. In the first eight picks Andrew Thomas his draft positions kind of moved around a little bit right now over under ten and a half minus one sixty five to be a top ten pick. Of course you've got Matai Becton part of the project but the athlete Guy Looks like his stock kind of falling a little bit to maybe go. Eleven there to the jets as you mentioned over. Eight and a half minus three eighty on the chock there for that one. So how do you kind of rank these off of Lyman? And where do you sort of expect to see them going? I liked that Andrew Thomas. Pick in the first round in the top ten I. I do think that there's a really good shot at the four guys. Go in the top eleven. And I don't see Andrew Thomas being the fourth one to go. I think to me I would start to see. His floor is being the browns and I think he's a great fit for the browns because the browns need a left tackle specifically because they spend all that money on the right tackle. Thomas is the only guy to me in class of of the three that projects cleanly to the left side. Jack Wills played right at Alabama. Wirth's played right at Iowa. He to the left for a few games last year because the left. Guy Jackson he got injured for a little bit. But outside of that worst played right his entire career and lack prototypical length for the left side. And then back then. He sort of flipped around in Louisville's offense but he doesn't really have the movement skills to cleanly project to the left side long term in the NFL. And guys that big. Like I wouldn't want in there. He seems like a much cleaner fit to the right side. So I think Andrew Thomas Floor is probably ten I I usually like to take the plus side of it you know and and get better you know than than even money or whatever but of the of the odds you threw out there that that's the one that I liked the most all right. Let's let's just joke around here with a few other positions kind of do some. Yes no first round type stuff last year for those that. Don't we had you on for the draft and you were really really stumping four tighthead? You were really stopping for TJ Hopkinson tight end in the first round here. I've seen that in the plus four hundred range just somebody make a reach for a tight end or do we just not have a guy close enough to the first round here I. It would be a mistake if they did. I think it's a really poor tight end class. I have seen some like reports that may be cold. Commit goes in the first round. But I I would be really surprised. Cole I find commit to be an overrated prospect Watching his tape he he doesn't block and as a receiver talked about Denzel. Meme TED no manufacturer. Production call committed a surprising amount of manufactured production for tight end. They throw the ball on the perimeter like screens and sulfite that I I just find him to be overrated prospect. A He's a guy that moves though and looks like a first round tight end so I could he slide in there. I would be really surprised. I would take the no on that one. But the odds just aren't there. That's a stay away for me. All right. What about the Andrea Swift? I'm seeing first round. Yes a first. Pick binds one. Oh five at five times. I'm seeing yes first round. Pick MINUS THIRTY FIVE AT LINE. So some difference of opinion maybe some different exposure between those two books. This somebody take the Andre Swimming. He's probably the only I running back in this draft class right. So does somebody take him in the first round I would take? I would take the no on that. I think the I think the. Nfl is getting smarter with this in terms of dropping the running backs down and with this this class specifically you have nine. Maybe even ten running backs that you could project potentially start whether right away or pretty damn close to right away and maybe that delineation point is eight and Antonio Gibson at nine is just incredibly intriguing boomer bus type running back but you know wherever that number is the teams that need a guy to play right away Running back. It's not much bigger than that. And so those teams can afford to wait until day to. There's so many guys that are clear. First rounders at in this this draft that are a positions of much higher value I just see waiting the only team that I could really see doing. It would be like Miami because they'd be like Oh you know. We got three first round picks in yellow. You know we'll just use the third one and sort of take the flyer there but even with them like. Why would you do that? As opposed to take in one of these receivers are like know taking a coroner or take one of the Taken an offensive lineman. They're I I just and by the way. I don't think that swift is the best back in this class. I think that Jonathan Taylor is not that the Taylor. You know what I'm saying that he'll go above him but I I yeah anyway. I'm just not convinced that ready to go in the first round so I take the no on that side of it. I'll tell you what I think. If there's one that goes in the first round it's maybe Edward Sealer just because he's maybe the best receiving back you know of the top guy. Yes last very receiver. Too Edward C layers. The kind of guy that makes sense for a team schematic that likes to use the running backs a lot. That'd be the one that I would think. Maybe as kind of an outside shot at being a first round. Pick if you find any kind of odds for that a couple more players that want to pick your brain on real quickly here. We'll save the best for last so I WANNA talk about. Jalen hurts here. Real Quick Jalen hurts a favorite to go in the second round minus one. Thirty third round plus one seventy. Initially we saw the third round as the favorite. But now we're kind of seeing that maybe someone will take a shot him in the second round. It's minus one. Fifteen over at five times is Jalen hurts going to be atop sixty five pick in this draft. Yeah I think of those two. I think yeah second round. I think that's probably what I would say to you know. We heard rumors that his stock is going up. And from having evaluated jalen hurts. I can see that you know I now. You have to know what you're getting jalen hurts. I my four or five hundred big board I comp to. He's the only non-football comp that I did but I caught them to Ricky Rubio because their players that they have you know. A bunch of clearly delineated shrinks one Very clearly delineated fly. Ricky Rubio of course couldn't shoot. Jalen hurts has a real issue. Throwing downfield and reading defenses downfield but hurts all these shrinks You know as far as as mobility. He's not just not just mobility but he's extremely strong kid. Who's a Texas power lifting champion in high school and stuff like that? He's also very good in the intermediate game and so like a team? We'll have to talk themselves into building an offense around him. That would sort of be like this. You know going back to a term that the Texans used a couple of years ago but like an exotic smash type old school new school wall hybrid type thing where you could run a spread. Up-tempo RUN heavy You know where it's like you know a lot of runs and then a lot of play action. Rpo type stuff that kind of look like you know kind of look like the stuff you doing it. Alabama and kind of. Look like this stuff. You do that at Oklahoma where it be. You know maybe you got a big back next to him and stuff like that and you know you're hurrying back to the line and then you got a couple of good receivers and what. Jalen hurts is really good at as a passer. There's there's two different things he's really good at intermediate accuracy. We saw that even going back to Alabama when he was just a one read guy he can always hit a guy on the hand streaking across the middle and then the other thing is he does not turn the ball over the. Nfl is really going to like that and they're really going to like the fact that this is a guy who was mentor by Nick. Sabin Mentor by Lincoln. Riley two coaches that are going to be in the College Football Hall of fame. People know that he's a leader We again Peter King guys like that of reported that Jalen hurts. It's GonNa go higher than you think. I think that that's probably going to be in the second round all right so as we look at sort of the composition not only of the top five but of the top ten. You Got Borough. I you more likely got chased down going. Second Jeff. Okuda probably Detroit at three. Although we've seen a lot of steam here lately Derrick Brown maybe possibly going in that three spot. The giants are GonNa take an offensive Lineman at four in all likelihood the quarterbacks maybe go five six the player who's kind of getting left out of this equation. If you do think four tackles eleven picks is the guy that you and I both absolutely love. That's Isaiah Simmons. If cells makes it to ten for the Browns I'm going to be ecstatic and I swear to God. I hope they take him over left tackle. I don't know if they will but I really hope they do. But as you kind of look at the needs and as you kind of look at the mock drafts and stuff like that for these teams. Is it possible that a guy as gifted as talented as versatile as Isaiah Simmons could actually be a follower here? Maybe there's there's a couple of different scenarios because he has a couple of different spots certainly getting past the giants seems like the giants are GonNa take a tackle but you know they. They had thought about looking at him for a little bit. But it looks like they're going to tackle the next spot. There would be Carolina and then the other one is potentially Arizona. But Yeah there. There would be shot that he does get to ten. You know I I do think there's a shot and by the way to your point. I did a podcast with the browns writer where we were talking about this and he asked me. Is there any scenario? Where if you were the browns you would not take tackle at ten and and I said there's only one and that's if Mr Asia Simmons may get Derwin James Falls to ten. It's the only one if he falls there. You have to take J. Simmons outside of that. You have to take the tackle you just do. Just turn the cartoon but outside of that you know. I J Simmons and Adam. It's funny like I remember going back a couple national titles ago. Never Forget it. We were talking about props back then and you told me it was Bam against Clemson. And you said you know one of your favorite props on the board was Isaiah. Simmons and his tackles in that game and you said I think I jason is going to play a big factor in this game but you could have a big game it man. He sure did. And that was one that you know. In terms of the national perception of Asia that was one of his SORTA national coming out party seven. Aj tyrel you know they. They started kicked off that party. And the ever since then Isaiah Simmons has just been womb womb just rising rising rising up until ten at the combine tested as the best athletic testing linebacker of all time To me I think I had number four on my board Slam Dunk pick at ten. I hope he's there. I don't know if he will be. I don't know what do you think Carolina does? Is it Brown? If he's there I mean for me. It would certainly be Simmons I to me. Simmons objectively a better prospect than Derrick Brown. But you know it. It's hard to say but you know I mean. Carolina has needs at both spots and to me and they have more needs then that on on defense and the tremendous thing about Asia Simmons and some people see this as a negative but I find those people to be. Insane is it. They'll be like Oh you know I treat Simmons. He doesn't have a clearly delineated position. And you know if you put them at one spot. He'll struggle and it's like well no in fact he's just awesome at every position like last year. I J Simmons played something like eight hundred and twenty-five snaps Something like that if you look at his. Pf numbers you look at the advanced stuff. He took over one hundred snaps at five different positions like in the slot at edge as a deep safety oddball linebacker. And I'm forgetting one but literally five different positions and he graded out as an eighty plus which is really good in every single metric. Run Defense Coverage rushing the passer tackling at every single one of those positions. So basically. He's a stud at essentially anywhere that you could put him. And he's for for folks out there. He's a guy who athletically he's just south of Calvin Johnson like. That's the kind of athlete we're talking about. He's just south of his athletic profile. He's not quite there but he's just south of that so you think if someone who's yourself that profile is a little bit smaller just a little bit less athletic but a guy like that you can put its slot cornerback. Who LOCKS PEOPLE DOWN? You can put them at edge rusher. Just get sick among the quarterback put them at linebacker tackle machine you put them deep safety. Y- just tremendous range ball hawk. I mean like you're talking about a guy who can literally do anything and he is that Chesapeake Guy. He's the guy that like bread vegetables just had so much fun with them like a toy and I. It was like battleship. Put Him over the other guy. The other offensive coordinator like what's his pressure point. Okay we're GonNa take that thing away. What what's wh- what do you do that like? You kill other teams with well. We gotTA J. Simmons. So you're not doing that this game. That's the player that I share. Simmons's Yeah I think somebody's going to have a really really good player fall into their laps if they if the first round of the top ten picks shake out the way that we're expecting them do and speaking of the way that you expect the first round a shakeout you're going to have a mock draft coming up soon over at Rota world. You've already got this big board. You've got position breakdowns. So much great stuff over there man. Where can people find? You just sort of Pat Yourself on the back. You're a little bit because you deserve it. Thanks Man Yeah you guys can find. My work wrote a world. You can find me on twitter at cu. The Ku Albion twitter. You know all throughout the draft so check me out. Check out that That Thawra five hundred big board with with player calms you know the rest scores. 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National Championship Clemson vs. LSU Betting Preview & Picks with Thor Nystrom January 10, 2020

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National Championship Clemson vs. LSU Betting Preview & Picks with Thor Nystrom January 10, 2020

"Overpaying the Book Dot Com. We'll have you fully prepared for the National Championship game by previews already up. We got some stuff from Alan Moody and once we get more bedding stuff out there. I'll have some articles articles for you this week at with my favorite props for the game as well as player props and maybe some of the novelty stuff as well daily. Nhl Daily College basketball daily NBA BA previews for all four divisional round games in the NFL playoffs additional NFL. Contact coming your way makes you Dany Borg's this. NFL model projections for this this weekend as well but as you know this in every edition of Bang Radio presented by our friends over at the sports book BTV The number two hundred is that Promo Code hundred percent positive match. sportsbook hundred percent deposit match bonus for the live casino at GSI. It's only game until you bet it couple of guests on the program here today and we start with or NYSTROEM from Rodeo will allow world thought great you back on the show man. Happy to have you with me. How's everything going? It's going great at great to be here. That's awesome to have you back on the show man and Like I said you know it's good timing here with clubs at Lsu the National Championship Game Gabe on Monday night down in New Orleans a lot of five and a half out there in the offshore market a lot of brick and mortar sitting on six. I read your preview over Rhett wrote a world which is absolutely phenomenal. By the way you think you ideal yeah we can jump right in I. I like Clemson uh-huh and I hope you can get sick but I honestly I I don't I don't need the points personally. I I think the wrong team is favourite here. I I don't know what your thoughts are but that those those are mind I'll just start right out with that. You talked about this in her previewed. Some we've talked about on the show here. I mean before the semi-finals club since a favorite in this hypothetical title match up even with Lsu getting your the nod for this game being in New Orleans Clemson's a favourite going into the semi-finals after one game all the sudden LSU issue five and a half or six. It's an overreaction to be sure it really is it's a recency bias thing for sure it's just that You know in terms of the match up. You know when you when you go in on paper I I tend to focus more on on that stuff than some of these ancillary things that you're seeing on on television and stuff like this us and when you dig into the match ups that the things that actually matter once we start getting into the into the game when the when the when the bullets are flying and stuff like this. I just think that the things that Clemson does they're going to give. LSU A lot of problems when we get onto the field. And I think all you have to do is flipped flipped the clock back one year when we went to last year's title game and I talk a lot about that in the column that you guys can read a wrote a world but just go back to last year's title title Game Against Alabama and what Brent Venables and Clemson's defense did to now obviously Clemson's defense personnel wise is a bit different sprint this year but the things that venables does on defense and again I talk a lot about this in the column and I'm talking schematically. I think they're going to give Joe Borough a lot of problems problems on Monday night. I'm talking about things like this guy's coverages replacer blitzes things that he does to confuse. The quarterback pre snap polls snap and thinks he does to confuse the offensive line. Thinks he does to to change his his defensive pieces around and stuff. I like that He. He's GonNa do things to confuse the quarterback to jit just different stuff like that I I I think he's going to do stuff to disrupt the timing of Borough Confused Confused Borough. We can talk about how that's going to manifest as far as the player props go You know with regards to specific players. LSU's passing game. But I think that's the way that you disrupt. LSU's passing game. And that's the way that you take down. LSU's entire offense that's the way that you beat Lsu. I just think this is a really bad match four. Lsu well and I think too and you look back to the semifinal game against Ohio state and Ohio state broke some big runs in the first half of that game they had a few situations nations fields kinda threw it up and a wide receiver made a big play. You know quite frankly. I mean that was sort of the Justin fields passing attack over the course of the season. I'll say it's wide receivers. Zuber's ran really really good routes got separation and if it was a fifty fifty ball they came down with it and once clemson started making those adjustments minutes later in the second quarter and of course in the second half they did confuse fields. Filled wasn't mobile. He had the knee injury. He was kind of hampered a little bit playing left handed as they like to say. And it showed. And maybe if Dobbins doesn't go out Ohio state still wins that game maybe LSU needs to run the football on Clemson maybe Edward C layer our needs to have a big game for them but once they confused Justin field. I don't think it's as cerebral of a quarterback Joe Borough. I don't think he's as good of a passer as Joe Borough but what's they gave fields. Those different looks he struggled and we'll see if they do that right right at the beginning of the game against borough or something they incorporate as the game goes goes along but that chess match that psychological chess match between borough and really vegetables is probably the key to this game. I would agree with that. And and yeah. Nobody's better at the adjustments than venables and swamp and Sweeney. And nobody's better at going going into the Games aims but you know when you know particularly with with the adjustments. If things aren't going well initially they will figure it out as things go along. Ohio state obviously Ohio state in terms of plus heading into that game they were the number one team in the nation. I think perceptually I talk about this in the column. I think people forget this you know talking about the perception of the line yes. LSU dominated Oklahoma and yes it was difficult for Clemson to put away Ohio state but heading into that game. Ohio state was the number one S P plus team in the nation whereas Oklahoma. Probably you know in hindsight didn't deserve to be in the playoff field and so we're talking about sort of different You know things the national championship game. Maybe should have been clemson against Ohio state. In hindsight you know like after you know those may have been the two best teams in the nation. You you you know what I mean Adam like it at the end of the day. So Dash is sort of like how I'm seeing some of those different things. Do you know what I mean. Yeah absolutely zooey. I mean that's the thing. Is that a lot of people kind of looked at the semi-finals and said well Clemson Ohio. Status is more of a national championship game than it is a semi-final and I think to you have this perception of Lsu they blew out Georgia in the SEC championship. Game and my contention is I. Don't think Georgia was that good defensively. Ridley Georgia was great ostensibly. They weren't that good. I mean obviously. They had some questions on the office of line. Whatnot Jake FROMS NOT GONNA go out there and hang a bunch of points i-in Lsu? Trevor Lawrence can justin fields probably would have been able to jake from. I don't think he's that great of a quarterback and obviously we'll see you you know what he where he winds up going draft but you can poke a lot of holes at Lsu and maybe. That's unfair because I know people are GonNa say the same thing as well Clemson. Didn't and play a Georgia Clemson in play anybody in the regular season I understand that also cross just about everybody that they played so they did what they had to do for the most part to get to this point and I agree the reasons by a series of LSU waxing Georgia of LSU blowing out Oklahoma it's caused a pretty big ripple in this number and the ironic thing about all of it is Ohio state. Beat three top fifteen teams in a row going into the semi-final they were still an underdog against Clemson. Yeah exactly and then I mean Clemson I mean a lot of things went wrong for Clemson in that game and they still managed to win that game even though they had to wide receiver injuries. Even though Ohio state and they're awesome secondary manage two arrays as those receivers with those injuries. Trevor Lawrence found away venables in double found a way. They found a way they found a way to beat perhaps apps what was maybe the best team in the nation. If they weren't and I guess the way that I see this game if Ohio state wasn't the best team in the nation into me Clemson was and I guess. I just see this game different than the Public Betas does or whoever you know is is informing this lineup. Ah Joe Public. What isn't because to me? LSU Is not six points better than the Clemson in a vacuum. I I think the Clemson is is the better team in a vacuum. And it doesn't have to do with this idea of like you know just because Clemson is battle-tested or championship whatever. It doesn't have anything to do with that and it doesn't have to do with you know LSU with recency bias or anything like that it just has to do with You know it just has to do with personnel and with with coaching staffs and stuff like that and it has to do with Lake doc number base things and stuff like that and I just think that Clemson is a better match up on paper for specifically for Lsu. I think that the thing that Clemson it does so well is the thing that they're best at is taking away passing attacks we see it over and over and over again and this year's team is number one in numerous Pass defense categories both conventionally and in advance stats like you you look at like the s P plus stats You know and again and the the conventional stats like that you know passer rating against Conventional the conventional passed out defense Pass defense but also like you know the the the regular S. P. Plus advanced pass defense metrics there also number wanted in numerous ones are those and again they have awesome Defenders back there they have they have multiple guys in the secondary that are going onto the NFL but they also have venables whose disguised coverages and the way that they do that these replacer blitzes it. It just next level like venables is I can't say enough about him and the other thing I want to talk about in an atom you and I last year and I have to give you a lot of credit for this. I don't want to blow smoke up your but last year. You talked a lot about Isaiah Simmons on this podcast. We were talking about props heading into that Alabama game. Am You you brought up by J Simmons and we talked about Simmons on this podcast. A lot in Isaiah. Simmons went absolutely ballistic in that game last year. I think Isaiah Simmons is going to have a lot to say on Monday night and I think Isaiah Simmons I think that they are gonNa sick him on just Jefferson just just in Jefferson you know LSU. Just talk about schematics. I I want to get into specifics. A little bit. You know we sort of been talking Generali's a little bit. I WANNA get into specifics. A little bit in terms in terms at the scheme. LSU traditionally these these past many years. They've had this sort of run. First offense it's been sort of turn back the clock etc and then this year they go spread. They're throwing a ton and yet they're they're top five in the nation. A lot of these offensive efficiency categories. and You wonder you're like how can they be throwing the ball so much and yet they skyrocketed in all the efficiency categories and they're also explosive and stuff like that but how how did they get so efficient so fast despite you know throwing so much more well a part of it is The the they have this big slot and just in Jefferson and he can just abused these. He's Khalid the small collegiate slot guys because you know in the NFL. There's more cornerbacks to go around. You know you have better slots in the NFL but in college allege you do not have that many defensive backs to go around you. Most college programs do not have really good slot cornerbacks. That's typically where your your you're worse cornerbacks going. Typically were the run to the litter is going unfortunately for Lsu. Clemson has a guy that I like to call it Simmons and they are going going to be able to put him in the slot against Jefferson. Jefferson had I put this in my column but he had ninety one or ninety. Two percent of his his his snaps came in the slide. Now this is just my posh chelation because venables does a billion different things with Isaiah. Simmons you can I mean they. They list him at linebacker so he plays they're they. They can play him at safety. They can play him deep They put him off the edge sometimes and then he also plays in the slot. You can I mean like I say he's listed at linebacker when the buck is but you can play him literally anywhere I refer to him as a nullah fire I think it is misleading leading to call him a a linebacker. But in this game what I would do I would just say hey. LSU You know the Justin Jefferson thing how you guys could just throw it to him and get first downs whenever you want. He's going away so so in this game Justin Jeff. He's going away because we are just putting. We're GONNA put Simmons on him so so sorry about that and then as far as Jomar chase goes we're GONNA put Moland on him on the outside or six foot one. NFL Corner and then we're going to have double team. Help over the top ballgame. So how'd you like that. That and then I I suppose on the other side with Tariffs Marshall who right now has an injury and as a couple of days ago. We weren't sure he was gonNA play. I guess. Se is now but you know he's he's not one hundred percent I suppose you can throw to him more but You're you're Nicole winner chase. He's going to be double team the whole game. We're going to have one of the best defenders in college football just harassing Jefferson. The whole time. We're going to have venables. He for the past couple of weeks. He's just been cooking up. The craziest disguise looks ever for for Joe Borough and we're just going to do that. And we know that you guys can't default back to running it just like Obama last year old in the you guys don't have breath the multiple I mean like Bam if you were going to perceive that a team could default back to the run game more you would have perceived the Alabama could do that got more effectively than this. Lsu Team this Lsu team is more top heavy. I think Alabama team was I think this Lsu team you hinder that passing assing attack. Like I said in the column you shoot the blimp out of the sky. You Know Auburn earlier this season I think they they were one of the teams that came closest to doing it almost beat Lsu. I think if if Clemson's able to do that at all I think that they're going to give them a lot of problems and I think Isaiah Simmons in particular if he's able to Jefferson order the game and they do a lot of the double teams with with chase and they start to confuse borough. I just think that gives. LSU offense a lot of problems. Well let's look at this in terms of the College Football playoff semifinal. You WanNa talk about a player that sort of almost a chameleon like he can play a bunch. Gotcha different roles Sean Wade for state. You'll before Sean Wade got ejected from that targeting call Clemson had no points and four point three yards per play hi this coming from. ESPN stats and Info after the targeting. Call after he got kicked out of the game. clemson eight point four yards per play twenty nine nine points. CLEMSON's got three or four shot. Wade's back there. In the secondary of guys that can blitz guys that can cover the outside guys that can be a slot corner guys can be out there disguise themselves in zone something like that. Ohio State lost that Guy Against Clemson. They lost a lot on defense. Clemson has multiple of shot wade types of players. And that's what makes us venables defense so good and why they're able to adjust so much. Have those guys back there in the secondary or hybrid types the players where they can line up anywhere and be effective and having a guy like Simmons gives you that Opportunity Having Taylor music and either follow Edward. C layer or provide. Help over the top gives you that opportunity. They've got so many guys back there that they can just do so many different things with and that's what borough has to figure figure out and all of the sudden here and again no the. Sec Is God's chosen conference in this and that and it's got your the greatest recruiting classes for the most part all the sudden those those LSU big physical athletic wide receivers are looking in the mirror when they lined up against Clemson and that was some guy talked about going into the Ohio state. Clemson game the closest also these two teams get to playing their respective talent levels was in practice. And that's how that game played out. This is a wakeup call for Lsu. I know they play in the SEC. And this and that Alabama moved it on them. Alabama couldn't stop him but Alabama moved in autumn. Clemson the best defense. And that's something I think is going to show up here in the first half of this game and very much in the second half as venables makes his adjustments. Yeah I mean I yeah I mean we can jump to. LSU's defense or now that LSU's defense is is is a big riddle for me. And I think that's that's the hardest thing for me to figure right now. I think there's one part of the handicap. That was really tough for me. It's figuring out. LSU's defense. I think it's really only instructive to talk about it since you know. Basically the the middle of November so like going back to the Bama Game divinity left Michael Divinity left the team after the that Auburn game. And then you had the Alabama game was a disaster and a debacle. You had to a probably shouldn't have been playing. You know he was. He was hurt hurt. He couldn't run out of the pocket he had that fumble early in the game where he was just scrambling towards the goal line. The fumbled without getting touched Because he was afraid to make cuts his velocity Austin was affected because he couldn't step into throws and yet dangerous ripped up. LSU His his receivers were getting separation. The whole game like the running lanes were wide open. It was easy for them to move the ball down the field next week against Ole Miss. LSU could not stop like the. Ah John Paul Plumlee. The quarterback ran for over two hundred yards and Lsu gave up Dang near four hundred yards rushing like there was major your major issues on on on defense but so these were the first two games that this veteran linebacker Michael Divinity had left the team and then all of a sudden it was like. Snap your fingers in the last four games. LSU's defense was all of a sudden awesome They they went on this crazy run. Where the last four games I think they allow? It was sixteen points per game. The first game was against Arkansas. You SORTA Todd said Oh it but the last three games was very very impressive. Texas am them Georgia and then of course Oklahoma and now you know I talk about this in the column Michael Divinity is coming back now and and he's going to start in the dime package and what the coaching staff was talking about. A lot of it had to do with divinity coming back to help out the pass rush. Well well now now. This is sort of playing armchair psychologist a bit but you know. LSU's best pass rusher. Sure and one of their top pearl prospects is. Is this guy named chase on. You know. Everybody knows about chase on Jason's a freak and he's you know he was he he's been the guy that NFL draft guys like myself talked about for awhile now. Just this this edge freak chase on's ascendance has happened well divinity has been away from the team on on this sabbatical. It's been this has been the best stretch of his career. He has he had a couple of sacks against Oklahoma and I think he has is three and a half sacks over the last three or four games. or so. And this happens to coincide with this awesome run that Lsu has had on defense here over the last four. The Games are so what. I'm wondering is if divinities absence had anything to do with chase on sort of ascendants here at the end of the season I and if chase on descendants had anything to do with. LSU's defense suddenly taking off. It may or may not but to to me. I don't know if I would have taken the chance of allowing divinity to come back to the team particularly if that had anything to do with like. Oh let's bring in divinity back so that we can improve the pass rush because to me if you finally have chase on playing the best football of his career and this might be chase on probably is Jason's last game I would just let chase onto all that like I. The the point I made in my column is I wouldn't let divinity take Even one pass rushing opportunity from chase on. I wouldn't let his presence affect the game plan in that regard at all and so so my concern is just that like whatever for sort of formula whatever sort of alchemy that that had formed in his absence. I'm Joe I was just sort of concerned a little bit. That him coming back that it could Disrupt that at all I. It's it's not any sort of disrespect to divinity at all. Obviously the the first Games in his absence you know he there. There is a sort of proof of concept of his value just in the the defensive cratered those two games but after that it was just sort of like they found themselves and chase on sort of lake found himself I again. I don't know if I'm playing armchair psychologist with that. But I just have this sort of this weird feeling about it. You know what I mean. Oh yeah absolutely and I mean this is one of those games where your margin for error is so small that you want to the out there and maybe he will have an impact. Maybe he'll he will wind up making a big play. But you don't want to do so at the expense of anything that chase on and you wonder if Dave rant will have the right game plan for that and again I mean this this is why when you talk about teams like this. The elite level teams and really. There are three of them in college football this year. LSU Clemson Ohio state from a talent standpoint Alabama's Alabama's number four and you'll maybe they should have been in the playoff. Who knows? Obviously they didn't have the resume for it. But you know they're the fourth most talented team in the country. The game like this where you don't have that big athletic edge you don't have that big talent edge that you have in every other game that you play. It comes down to schematics. It comes down to coaching. It comes down to you know having players that do the things that we just talked about with Clemson's back seven do the things that Lsu's pass asked Russia's at athletes like help it like some of the guys can do it's about maximizing exactly what those guys do well and then using that in your skin and you can overcomplicate the process a little bit and maybe Clemson did that early in the game against Ohio State. Maybe they tried to do too much and it kind of burn them a a little bit and maybe they got back to what they do. Well in the second half maybe they overcompensated knowing that Ohio state was the best team if they were playing or maybe it was just Ohio state speed and athleticism awesome kind of caught them off guard a little bit. That's just did it in this game. I it's all about execution in a game like this in the regular season when you're Clemson your Lsu you you can overcome some execution things because you're just better than the team. You're play in this game. You're not better than the team you're playing. It's about who maximizes what their personnel does best. I don't know if Aranda does that. Here we know. LSU's offense of coaching staff has done that with Joe Brady with springer and this big big offensive philosophical change that they've had but you wonder if in a game like this more of that stability of Clemson doing what they did last year to win. A title is white. Clemson could very well win the title again this year. One hundred percent. Yeah and just going back to the Ohio state thing I mean I. I don't think the point can be made enough about you know that team was really really really good. I just think that's Ohio State team of my lifetime at eighty two win at all exactly and I think when people go to the window or when people are handicap in this game or when people make that decision I know it's really the easy to think back to what whatever day that was December. Twenty eight December twenty ninth. And you just think about when you're watching those games and how impressive. Lsu looked and then you you think back to Clemson and how they had to claw back and stuff like that. And you know when when you're making that decision I know it's going to be really easy to think. LSU They are you know LSU there world-beater they can't be beat Clemson. They just didn't look that good and they were lucky to win. But people need to keep in mind that that Clemson beat this team that I I a lot of years would have won the national title. You know a lot of years were Would have been the best team in college football and May Have I've been you know the the big Ted's best team in a in a little while here a lot of years. That would have been a really really awesome national title game whereas whereas again you know. LSU beat sort of the runt of the litter of the recent Oklahoma teams. I mean this was not the cuyler Murray Oklahoma team this was not the Baker Mayfield Oklahoma team and so I think those points have had to be made. I think the other point that has to be made as Ohio state could do a lot more on offense what I'm talking about is diversification than than Lsu th th the point. I was trying to make my call him is it. Lsu they put put up these bazookas stats on offense but they play this style where Zucca stats is. That's sort of what you're going for. It's it's sort of like Mad Max type strategy where you know. You're you're you're sort of playing balls to the wall. That's that's that's what you're doing but like in a big spot like at this and we saw this in the Clinton Ohio state game balance I feel like is is going to behoove your chances of winning more And I think that you know it makes you harder to defend and I think that's why Arandas job on Monday night is going to be more difficult. Colt than venables is because Aranda in you know in addition to having to defend Trevor Lawrence who in my opinion. I know. I'm in the minority here but but on Monday night I would rather have Trevor Lawrence quarterbacking my team than Joe Borough but Aranda in addition to that he has to defend Eddie. And and we we haven't talked about like Eddie but Eddie is a frigging beast. Edward Taylor Yeah Edwards layers really good but Edward to layer is more of like he's a complimentary player right like he's he's a guy who you can and do a lot of things with him and in the passing game in particular here in the second half. They've done a lot of really cool things with him and Brady does so many he cool thing. I was watching. I was watching a lot of these these ups of these these Games here in the last ten days when I was reading these when I was when I was writing the the the championship calm and I just watching like all the pre snap motion. Everything they were doing with them. Like in the passing game is like Super Duper Fun. You know and like you know everything. They were doing Edwards hilarious. But like Eddie and is a guy that you know he moves the needle for you you know whereas Efforts layer is more like a complimentary guy and stuff up like that But I I don't know I just think Arandas job is is going to be a lot tougher than than venables is and I think that that venables was just sort of constructed structed to to take down and you know what what. Lsu what they do you know and as we transition over to talk about the props offshore few minutes here. I mean. Obviously we've already talked about some of the match ups that kind of intrigue us in this game we don't have a lot of prop lines out there as of yet. But you certainly you about the game and flow of this game you start thinking about all the things we talked about schematically and what these coaches half to do in order to adjust to a lot of these different things and I will say this first and foremost. I know that all the talk in this game is going to be about the quarterbacks. It's going to be about Lawrence. It's going to be about borough I think. NTN and Edwards Hilar- play a massive passive role in this game. I if you're Lsu you do want to try to run the football a little bit because we saw Ohio state run the football clemson and also. It's going to get you away from some some of those unbalanced fronts disguised blitzes all those types of things. Now that's if Edwards Hilar- is healthy in this game and I have to believe that he's as healthy theus he's been over the last little while didn't play much against Oklahoma wasn't needed against Oklahoma. If that's a guy that can't get you twenty to twenty five touches in this game I it'll be very difficult for LSU to win this game now. This is a guy. I think that you know you can do some more option with NTN and Lawrence like they. Did I used to leading chase young beating chase young to the outside kind of trying to tire him out a little bit. We saw them do that in that semifinal game I would expect more of that here her especially to kind of offset chase on in the pass rush for Lsu. I think is GonNa get a lot of this year whether they're receiving or rushing. I'M GONNA play. Some of his some of his rushing over. I'M GONNA play Oetzi layers receptions over the running backs get a lot of space here in this game because you've got the ability to take these wide receivers this deep downfield and kind of leave some of that open field in the middle for everybody running backs both do very well. In this game I agree particularly particularly on the case of of I think he is going to have a really big game and something that we should talk about his is. LSU's defense gives up a lot of explosive blows. Plays and I I like to rip off a couple. A couple explosive plays rushing the ball. He may even a bust off a swing pass pass. I mean we'll we'll see Clemson's receivers you know. We have to see if they are coming off of their own injuries. You know they're back the practice and everything like that they. They got banged up in the Ohio. State game seems like they're going to be healthy. You know you mentioned Edwards hilarious. Seems like he's going to be as well but I liked the matchup for him. Because of the reasons we were talking about LSU's run defense has been really up and down. I like the point that you made with regards to Lawrence's this is well. LSU's defenders got asked a lot about Lawrence's legs this week obviously You know he ran for over one hundred yards against Ohio state. LSU's run defense. Fence has had some issues. You know you know. And we you know against quarterbacks as well we talked a little bit about that they are that has been A A bit of a focus over this this past week or two. However you know once the bullets start flying? It's not like that's something that they're going to be focusing on more. But then you know. Lawrence passing downfield to Higgins and Ross. Or they're going to be focusing more on then on on the and that's how these running lane start to open up and I made at this point in my column where you know to compromise to. He threw for over four hundred yards in that Alabama game. Even though he wasn't getting the mustard on the ball that he usually does and the point that I was making was I thought he could run for over one hundred yards if he had wanted to and if and if his leg was sounded in that game. It's just that he didn't want to leave the pocket. After that first unforced fumble and I think Lawrence Druthers if he wants to I think if if if if if that's available I think it might be available. I think you might see him. TUCK IT and run a couple times whether that's designed or whether you know. There's just some some scrambles because LSU there has been times this season were that has been available in Adam going back to some that they you said last year I remember. You said this to do you. At a prompt. It had to do with Lawrence's rushing yards against Alabama. And I remember I joined you on that and I remember that was one of the very few ones that we sweat until the end and I think the Lawrence Ida data had a scramble later on. I think we ended up cash in that one The lawrence rushing yards thing. I think that's something I don't know. What the prop is on that one? But that might be something than to look into to just because LSU's run defense has had some issues with that one as well looks like right now Ben Online. The only offshore I'm seeing some props there rushing yards at least X. number of yards Trevor Lawrence Baseline right now at fifty three. So I guess we'll see of course as some of these books start to opened some of these things up but again we talked about game for. We talked about a lot of individual match ups here in those are things that you wanna take a chance to study over the weekend and I can tell. Oh you that one of the best study guides you will have is store. NYSTROM's column the National Championship Preview. Over at role world first and foremost it is absolutely absolutely outstanding to see your byline again. I know you've had a tough time here. Recently with some health issues but great to see your byline as you mentioned over wrote a world. You'll be doing a lot for the NFL draft after coming up as well. Oh Yeah Yeah we're GONNA have a ton of content coming up. Obviously you know you guys can go and check out. My championship preview. Right now had a lot of fun writing that We have a lot of stuff about the championship right now. Derek Clawson has an NFL draft prospect piece up right. Now it's really cool We have a thing right now for for. DFS players that Marquis wrote that. That's really nice and then we're going to be transitioning into the NFL draft lava a senior thing for for fans of of the of the draft. Yeah process and we'll be getting the podcast role and again here really quick so come and check us out and Yeah Adam. Hey man thanks so much for having me back. It really appreciate really good time. Appreciate you man. Absolutely brother makes me fall thor on twitter at thor. Ku and again. 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Caitlin Nystrom  styleNmotion

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Caitlin Nystrom styleNmotion

"Hello everyone and welcome to the good pod you can follow the good pod on twitter at good pod pod on instagram at the good pod and also on facebook just just look for the good pod and there's also a the good pod listeners facebook community that i would love to have you join as well and i will leave those links in the description option of this episode. If you would like to become a patron please become a patron. Please help support the show and keep it moving. Just go to patriots dot com slash the good pod. There's tons of different things that you can do to donate and yeah so hopefully i will see over there on patriarch career on so thank you so much for listening to this episode and enjoy <music> four shirt. Hello thank you so much for joining. My podcasts has today caitlyn. Tell me about you and what you do and where you're from and all that good stuff. I am originally from ohio al mid west girl born and raised and now i live in new york city in the east village and i'm the owner and stylist of silent motion which is an online clothing boutique for for women all about just comfort and companies having fun with your wardrobe. That's really cool. So how long have you been doing that. We just celebrated icee. They just like it was yesterday but we celebrate our first birthday on march. I saw a little over a year okay so of you is that why you came to new york orc or just for my husband's job on and i kind of took a few months to figure out what i wanted to do with this exciting chapter in my life <hes> and and i kind of pulled all my passions and i created silent auction so it's amazing okay well. That's really cool yeah. That's awesome so so that's a that's kind of like i mean i didn't move to new york city but i think that it just like it works out whenever it's supposed to you know like he kind of like figure out yeah you'd like figure out what you wanna do and then it just kind of like works out the way that it's meant to be but so what exactly do you do with your clients then so i focus on the clothing shop online and introduced recently the stylings services so i i definitely tried. I too have amazing clothing that have really unique style details color. Whatever but at the end of the day you can buy clothing from anywhere can buy clothing target. Kohl's kohl's you know anywhere so i really was like i want to bring something special to the table that i can support my clients and offer three different silence or recipients. One is just just a free online quiz so i kind of created this really cute like ten question. Quiz takes like three minutes and you're just go on into the questions and then i send you personal filing recommendations mediations so you're looking for something i the civic occasion or you're like. I just hate getting dressed every morning eight help <hes> so i do that which is really fun on an easy. I can be anywhere they could be anywhere. We don't have to be in new york together. <hes> and in the second styling service has one on one so i'll actually go to women's homes and kind of go through their clothes with them and i can introduce some of my pieces if they want it or i'll just tell them how to wear the most they already have and in the third exiling service which is my personal favorite is actually like a girl shopping night so actually bring the boutique to women's homes and have them invite their girlfriends over and we just kind of like have fun playing dress up styling each other and it's just always fun to do it. Multiple women like your girlfriends that you trust in on wet yeah. That's really cool so you're like tan france to try to just like you know give women the competence. They need to it kind of you know tackle anything to have going on in their life. Yeah that is really cool you are i mean you are kind of like tan just just own it isn't he like ah show the best show ever amazed jasper binge. Watch the second season and i cannot get enough of them. I i watched like fifty interviews of them last night on youtube watching it happens live yeah yeah. I did see it yeah i. I just love them so much. I felt like andy wasn't happy enough or something. Did you get that vibe. Five of them might be a little intimidating. Don't you say well i think into. I don't know maybe indies like oh there. These are five cooler gay guys than me. I don't know they're so fun because whenever he's with like the housewives he's just like the life of the party but i found him kind of dull like maybe you didn't. Maybe he felt like he was a stick or something. Maybe you didn't feel good yeah so who knows but i just love them. All like i always try to figure out like what do do i like most and i like go back and forth like also great and that show is just i feel like especially because i'm from texas and and like you know there's so many like religious people my my dad's actually a pastor but there's so many people like those people that they talked to in atlanta. You know that's like they. They've never even met a gay person before in their life and they just go in there and they talk to them and they become like real people apple to them and then by the end they're like oh my gosh we love you and we're so thankful for what you did for me and all of this stuff and it's like everybody in the whole world needs to watch the show because because i think it's just the best thing that's ever. That's been on t._v. In a long time it's always tell people it's like you cry but it's like the happiest happiest of tears. There's nothing there's nothing like sad really about it. It's just like it's the most joyful happy show. I think that's ever a been on t._v. Or at least that i've ever seen geico you can have fine grits very impactful yeah. It's so good. Oh my gosh i should do a whole podcast episode. I actually did an episode on my other podcasts the other like the first season but i mean i talked about it a little bit with my husband who like doesn't even watch it that much but whatever i'll let it slide he he tried or or he did watch it a little bit and then he started <hes> you know like in the first season they always talk about the button downs and then the t shirts underneath so he started wearing that he's like this makes. Let me look slimmer. I just try to try husband about a french. Chocolate always talks about yeah. I tried to teach like it. Just doesn't look good on me. I was like in france he'd perfect way. I've had yeah but i mean he has the body to do anything personally correct wreck. I saw like a on one of the interviews. There was some pictures of him. He is really fit like i didn't notice. I didn't notice it it until he on that one episode where he took that guy to work out. I was like jeez. He under no yeah and i also i find funny about him that he has no clue about like pop culture like did he live in a box like where where you're seeing i yeah they i feel like jonathan thinnest mentioned many times that they all come from big cities except except hand. I don't know where he lives. He said he lives in one interview said he lives out of state eight. I should do some digging for some investigative journalism right there yeah so okay so since you're familiar with the good place i won't won't explain every single thing and why i'm doing it but i have the questions broke up into sections so the first section is i'll just ask one question for each character so the first the first characters chidi so he's the one that like is annoying with how he chooses things and he yeah he's like very ethical. So has there ever been a time where you are unable to decide on something important. I like to consider myself very decisive. I feel like i have to go with my gut and just kind of stick with it. I'm very lucky to to have my sounding board in my husband so like usually when i kinda freeze up he will help me or vice versa <hes> but i definitely only feel the like through the past year and a half with style emotion. I have become indecisive about the little things so like the website. We're i should have thought of like i over think like the silliest smallest things nobody else is gonna thank god our care. Yeah <hes> what color something or whatever never so. I definitely feel like i've become more indecisive being an entrepreneur because i'm just over thinking everything. Oh yeah i can totally see that. I can can be that way too because i'm a web designer so whenever i decide like for other people it's so easy because i just usually go off of this. One formula ed are always used for websites and this is how you should lay it out and i'm totally easy but like for my own i'm like oh. What should i do yeah so we always feel like i'm definitely a little a little bit of cheating now funding come from yeah yeah. I'm the same way i was just i just recorded another episode right before this and the girl she was like i just have a hard time deciding a lot and then the girl before that was like i'd never have a hard time deciding so i think there's like i'm. I'm the type that i never have a hard time like i just regret it later. I'm just do it. Let's do it and let's let's just get it done so i can check it off the list and move on and we check off too yeah yeah totally. That's i guess there's two types of people and that also like i just took one of those like any tests. Have you ever taken one of those now. It's kind of like the myers briggs personality tests. Have you taken that one yeah okay. Do you know what <hes> do. You know what you are. It's been years so now okay. Well well like mine is e._s. t._j. Was pretty much like the most dominant personality trait like the most dominant personality type really <hes> and so then whenever i took the any graham i was number one and so there's like one through nine but mine. My husband is a nine and i'm a one so pretty not much. It said that we were like a match made in heaven or something yeah whole around the track so funny 'cause we're not we're not polar opposites in like the things we find funny or that kind of stuff you know we. We like all the same stuff but it's like i get. He's like very laid back. He doesn't want confrontation. He's always was just like just moved past. It and i'm like no. I'm going to tell them right now. It's going on like. I have to get it out right. Wow that's a great balance. Yeah sorry sorry my dog. I have to get it out like right then but yeah he he definitely is a good person to have. I have to put her down. She's driving me nuts one second. I'm gonna i'm gonna take to my husband one minute you're fine. Oh my gosh. She's so cute though she's so bad just wants to hang out that okay. Sorry okay okay so let's see but yeah take that instagram test and i will send you the link and i think i have it on my on here. I'll find it whatever i'm done with this but i'll send you the link at it's pretty interesting whenever you <hes> whenever you take it and then there's also like if you click on like if you go to your number and you go to the like if your husband takes it to you can go to your number and then click on his number or and you can see like how compatible you are with each other so people are pretty smart to come up with those kind of tests. I'm intrigued yeah all right so the next section is based on jason and okay which one. I have a few different ones. <hes> okay so tell me one of your guilty pleasures jackson-lee my reality tv. Yes me too. I know you we were just talking about. Andy cohen so what housewives franchises your favorite. Oh my gosh that is such a hard decision. I feel like new york because i live here yeah. I also love to like see where they're going and you never seen any of them. I have not i stopped them hard enough. I did see tom no. It was on my birthday last year and i felt like it was the best birthday present ever not is heavy. I saw him at a bar at the regency woman not the and he was with another woman last year. Last twenty years was were. They married then they were engaged. Oh i it was i mean i obviously felt bad for her. You've ever ever do you ever listen to juicy scoop with heather mcdonald the podcast oh that's the best one so you should you should start listening to juicy scoop and and then when you start listening to it you should join the group juicy. Scuba can't say it juicy scoop obsessed facebook group and gone there and tell. I people about it because everyone will love that story. She talks about housewives and she actually she used to be on chelsea. Handler like the old chelsea handler sha she she liked tours around now with the podcast and one of her opening axes singing the countess. It's the from my housewives yes. She can talk just like ramona. It's the best. She sounds just like like ramona. She does like all the impressions but her ramona and she had signed on to you have to listen to the durant episode when she was in new york dorando as their so after that so i'm actually like a new housewives fan and i started watching beverly hills. Okay <hes> and i caught up before the first episode of the newest season so sal the alec. I just started watching so i started with beverly hills and i was like this is the best best show ever that i've ever watched. I'm obsessed with kyle richards. I just love her. I liked eric adjei until the season. I'm not a fan anymore but we'll see see if she redeems herself and i don't like to read. I miss brandy like i have so many things that i want to say about beverly hills but then then my friend she was like you need to watch new york. You will love it so much and i have to be honest. I hated. I hated every minute of watching watching it. I thought it was stressful. I think it was just so stressful like they're a different breed. If like beverly hills they get in fights like i can't remember like a like like they have yelling every episode of new york. It can be austin so when i first started watching especially like with kelley been simone that i think that was episode where i finally was like okay. Whatever bethany he's like go to sleep craxi. Yeah they the good news so whenever i got to that i was like this. Maybe i can watch it so then i just stuck with it and like the last when aviva got there and she threw her leg on the floor. This is the best show i've ever watched some entire life and i'm obsessed with it now so loved arinda. They're good but yeah. I definitely real housewives or like i mean i like wake up excited to watch them in the more so so good though yeah. I don't watch any of the other ones <hes> well. I started watching those see but i wasn't really too big a fan of it yet. Beverly tells the new yorker definitely the best yeah but i mean i. I don't like to judge. I watch all of them. So what about <hes> <hes> do you watch potomac in dallas and all of the ice you literally watch all of them. I even watch miami when it used to be on not anymore <hes> but yeah they're all different but when you watch beverly hills and then you go back and watch like a potomac or something you're like oh like beverly hills like that's where the money's at that's where you know like women were like another level so potomac sometimes a little too normal. Oh okay like like there's the person going through like tax fraud at a little too like real like oh gosh you i watch like do you watch like southern charm and all of those shows too i don't i don't i really just keep all of my energy energy in the house while i know vendor perils i never okay 'cause most people there like 'cause after whenever i got done with beverly hills most people were saying saying watch founder pump roles and i've watched like five or six episodes but i don't know it's just it's too much like the hills and i was like huge. The hills fan and the way that it's filmed is like exactly the same. I'm just like this is just a knockoff but but lisa's on it i i love her so maybe i'll just keep watching but i don't know i'm sure it'll get better. Everyone says it's like the most drama filled show ever on television division by. That's what it seemed like yeah. I know that if i start i will become a dead so i'm just not letting myself start yeah exactly but new york. I think that i think it's just the best. I don't know whenever i think beverly hills has to redeem itself next season because the season was so boring it awesome it ever been. I don't know they were just finding fights like none of those fights. Were even real. You know they weren't they right. They were all stupid stupid so i think i don't know i'm hoping that they bring either. I hope they bring brandy back honestly to do like some sort cast sweatshop yeah because teddy was good but she was just she just fell in pretty good with kyle so and then without kim. It's just <hes>. I hate kim but that's what makes it good a touch of crazy yeah she's. She is definitely only insane for sure okay so we can talk about that for a long time and anyone that doesn't like real housewives. They will kill us but oh well okay okay next question michael. It's based on michael. Also you know how he builds the good place and he says that's his perfect town down. So if you could build the perfect town what would you build and why i would build new york city with less people yeah i. I've only been here two and a half years but i love new york. I love that there's so much going on or so much to do. I love the energy in the city <hes> but there's just too many people so i definitely find that i stay in my neighborhood or like in my community. You know i don't like detroit. <unk> definitely not try to time square anytime soon <hes> so i try to stay away from as many crowds of possible but it's inevitable when you're walking around so yeah so new york half the people know yeah so you live in an apartment right village. How big is it alike. I think eight hundred nine hundred square feet. I mean like right under a thousand okay well. My house isn't much bigger. My house is like fourteen a hundred maybe thirteen hundred but i also live in waco texas so i mean it. Texas isn't so bad though it's just just really hot here so but i do love new york. It was probably my favorite city. I've ever been to but like you know like you can already tell i love t._v. And so i had to go see like the friends fountain in the text and the city apartment and the seinfeld restaurant and all that stuff so i was in heaven whenever wrestle all of it and that's why i i definitely don't do those on a daily basis like myself but it's really fun to kind of let the cavs stock pile of a list list of things i want to see when i had visitors come in renzo piano and then i go and do that in can explore with them. That's really fun. Yeah that is cool and i'm sure you have a a lot of people like asking you. Hey can i come stay with you two days and then by sister in law and my aunt the whole roster the star but it'll be fun yeah. That was really cool so do you have like extra space for them to stay too bad. We have a guest room on the guestroom is slowly become less guests friendly because it's now my office and inventory pile average yeah so so it's changing but as long as they're fine being surrounded by fabulous loathing that can totally that's really really cool man i. I always said that i would love like i used to always beg my husband like. Can we just move there for like one year but now i have i have three dogs and two cats like there's no way one of my dogs is like almost seventy pounds so she needs a yard she needs to yeah. She needs to roam free but maybe one day whenever we decide like we're ready to retire or whatever we might if we don't have any kids and all laugh so we don't have kids right now. So that's why i was like oh. Let's let's just move somewhere wherever but it didn't work out that way we've kind of stayed here but new york is a great place to live. I i would love it. I just always hear that. It is really expensive. <hes> and like you said like too many people but it's actually is that as expensive as like l._a. Because i was here that it's not so <hes> we lived. My husband and i lived in silicon valley in san francisco for two years. So it's about the same oh wow okay so yeah i mean like rent is crazy expensive for sure but not everything thing is expensive. People think that food's double and like everything's crazy expensive. I mean you just can't go to like five star restaurants every night sandoval at the end of all but once you get past the rent it's totally normal. I've always wondered like this is just a random question but like when you go go to the grocery store like how do you so you just get it delivered to your house okay yeah. We've been doing that here actually but i'm lazy. Ah i mean it's like they're a little dega. Little grocery stores everywhere like at the corner of every street so there's tons of options. It's just a matter era of like you know in ninety degree in tons of humidity. Are you really wanting to carry your entire. Week's worth of groceries back to your apartment by yourself. So how did the pinnacle deliver deliver it man so they'll have like trucks or like big oversights cards that they can like wheel themselves through neighborhoods and stuff so the mostly in like cool bands like right up to our building and then they'll have like five or six boxes in an old draw like all throughout the building. Wow that's that's cool. I was always wondering that like how do you go to the grocery. Store like that seems like a pain like have to carry. Do you have to get. I'm sure sure that before there was like phones that you could just order it right away. You had to get like some kind of cartwright street tree stores. They'll have instead instead of shopping carts. They have like really cards that you can buy for like twenty five dollars or something like yours. Permanently so a lot of the older people in in our building will always have those kind of carry their laundry around or their groceries or whatever <hes> but yeah you can sleep in a standard you can get anything delivered the wine anything you want delivered. Wow yeah we actually can get my groceries delivered here now so but most of the time i use curbside where you just go partying the spot and then they you text and they bring it to your car. Yeah yeah it's awesome. I hate going to the grocery store for sure. I think it's like the best thing 'cause that used to be like the old way of like getting groceries like boy boy back in the day as you get it delivered and there would be like a milkman that would deliver your milk and this is the best thing that's come back and i have like normally like like the same guy drops them off to me and i'm like i'm getting to know him and usually in my workout clothes or pajamas yeah well. That's cool. I've always been curious about that too. Just wonder like how do you get your groceries home. Because that seems like a pain okay so okay. Let's go onto ah tahani and i love her because she's kind of like a in that she loves celebrities or she just likes to name drop and she. She doesn't really get that excited so i feel like if she was to hang out with the countess i felt like she would hang out the countess definitely early but anyways so if you were a socialite and could hang out with anyone on a day to day basis who would it be all my goodness job. We'd i pick. I'm thinking of all the real housewives because if you wanna pick like let's just narrow it down to the real housewives of new york like past or present bethany bethany really view. I'm fascinated by what she's built. Yeah business perspective. I'm very very intrigued and also she has a very tough exterior like she's to me is like a a charitable new yorker barry <unk> y very so. I'm intrigued by what she's like. Masochistic went up hook imagery by what she's like off camera in like behind the scenes seems like when she's just at home hanging out like she like that all the time but i'm intrigued by especially her business i do like i like her and carol. Carol's calls my favorite and my been hates. My husband hates carol and he always he. He just doesn't think that he you think that she's really fake. That's what he always says. Okay okay and i'm just like i just love her and then i was like you know i love her because she is like carrie bradshaw tall and i'm like that's why because he's like she is. That's why i don't like her. Okay interest so it's so funny hey but he actually i think new york he will watch beverly hills with me but i think he likes new york the best he loves sonia like i've never been. I've never seen someone love him love of her more but he will. I quote her all the time and man those new yorker new york housewives are just the best a. r. I don't know about tinsley ensley it but i'm not as attached to her. I did not like her last season. I think they're gonna keep her though because she does fit in well with them yeah i i feel like she's warming apple a little bit and she does bring a certain like touch of crazy. Your wedding dress shopping when she's not engaged. You're like those yeah. That was weird. That was so weird so weird tv. It really does but i i don't know. I think that they'll keep her. I kind of liked that the girl what was her name jules i. I liked her. Oh yeah yeah after aviva. She was only on one season but after viva than she came in right and i don't and that that was like heather left then she but anyways i liked her but because i felt like she brought a lot of drama but i think the that she just wasn't able to handle it because i think she had a lot of problems personally because because remember even bother a union her husband had he was was cheating on her and all that stuff so i don't know. I hope that she's doing okay. She does still have that green juice business. I look that up so she does still have that with her sister or someone her friend i don't know but anyway she does still do that juice business so maybe maybe i should buy some and see how it is anyways okay so the last section is janet. Janet's like my favorite character around the good place and i love whenever there's like bad janet. Oh my gosh a dress them. They talk differently like it's just always like smacking her gum whenever she's from the bad place all right if you could magically teleport yourself to live in any t._v. Show world besides reality -ality t._v. Let's not do that okay so at any t._v. Show world. Where would you live. That's a tough one. I i love scandal okay. I've never watched that show i need. I feel like i would say stand. Will lots of drama berry talk a goal yeah. I feel like they have some very interesting interesting plot twists so i feel like i would say scandal. Okay cool yeah. I need to watch that. I've always wanted to watch it. I just i just haven't i watch a lot of comedies usually so i'm always like oh gosh coach smarter option to like go with the lighthearted comedy but scandal came to mind yeah yeah so yeah. I'd like to watch that okay so let's see i'll ask you one more question. So if you could upgrade one thing about your life what would it be. These are all thinkers uh-huh oh my gosh. I don't want to answer incorrectly. I would i would upgrade <hes> <hes>. I don't know i feel like i'm very happy by live yeah my business. I feel like i can always upgrade yeah. I can always like put more time do more networking <hes> i just started working out the wing which is a co-op space for women here in new york so i feel like that was kind and like i gave myself a little bit of an upgrade yeah. That's good again to like meet with other. Women in network can just bounce ideas off of each other and stops out but yeah i mean definitely i feel like my business. I can always upgrade a little bit yeah harder. Yeah i agree. I that's how i feel about my business to is like even though when you you feel like okay this is good. You need to like keep pushing because eventually at all right now so you can't dislike especially when you work for yourself. You don't have someone unless you can hire. Someone like generating leads for you like you would on typical like cells job. You're you're kind of doing everything all by yourself so yeah. It is important to like keep networking keep meeting new people and then you never know what like certain connections will bring so exactly exactly exactly yeah so awesome well. It's always nice to meet someone else that loves the housewives and i feel like i've met a lot of girls by doing this podcast that like them too because all of my frontier they don't watch it there miguel so my husband has another podcast called. It's called smark to death and it's about wrestling. I don't know if your if your husband watches wrestling but apparently it's a the big thing and a lot of men grown men watch this and apparently wrestling is like the male version of housewives okay. He's like personas yeah yeah so but they're actually like playing characters are not themselves. You know so erica. Jane was on <hes> she he was on on a ferris's podcast and she actually said that. It was pretty funny. She was actually like wrestling is like housewives but we actually have to go home to the two are real husbands bins and you know they have their own fantasy lives but that's so have you seen glow speaking rest. Yes i have seen it. I did like it does good. I'm excited season two at like yeah yeah but i was gonna say so in the podcast. I made my husband like i read off all these like tag lines and we'd love to make tag ones for people like so so most people don't even know what i'm talking about so i have to oh play them like a theme song and they're like. Is this real like every time. I play them when they're like. This is a real show that they actually say like <hes> y. What does tins leaves. It always cracks me up. Why would i if i can remember. Why would i cook if i yeah it's so stupid. I liked carols. Although it's like in the marathon of life dang it. I don't know i just think carol looks so cool in that intro the season with what that like weird looking jacket that she's wearing like she's interesting fashion choices but i'm all in for him yeah. She's i love her but anyways so we are like read off like different housewives <hes> tag lines and then my husband and his co host they like assign them to a wrestler <laughter> like this would work wrestler and then we like. I don't know my husband. He's pretty good at making them up but anyways. It's pretty funny we he likes the tag. We really liked the tagline funny. I mean why not i liked vander pumps. I forgot what season it was like. I'm i'm i'm crazy about dogs. Just not crazy about bitches like that this past season <hes> some some people calling but that's not that's just diamonds. Yes we'll love it. I love it. Oh have you read her book. No have you is yeah yeah. I read it. I did like a podcast over it. I'll have to send it to you to read the book. It's actually i wanted her to tell about more stuff but it actually was good. She talked about how she met. Tom and i found that very interesting thing like i don't know if it's true or not because it probably isn't but it they really see by the book. They seem like they're really in love but i don't really think they are dr. That's just my opinion but hey she's happy whatever well she's happy with that money she appears to be i mean she's been on a lot of talk shows lately and stuff but i guess for her book and everything expensive doing the cures. I hope she comes back because there is rumor that she wasn't going to <hes> so that's rental. They know i hope she does. I didn't like her last season but i feel like that's what she was talking about an affair she was like every every one of us has a role that we're supposed to play and i feel like the like she has every aspect. She's not like i'm just living in my life like she gets what she's doing. Yeah and i think her. I respect her more for that. Yeah oh yeah. I'm sure that they told her like you need to make teddy film comfortable whenever you came and they told teddy erica's gonna make you feel really bad so try to cry. I'm sure they tell them all of this stuff. I mean i'm not dumb but it's still interesting to watch but anyways always tell everyone how they can find you like your website and social media and everything yes go style emotion on its style letter n. motion dot com and then style let her in motion shop is my instagram and facebook and pinterest and everything so okay so you always reach out like i said you can buy clothes anywhere but i love the silent sessions so that's why i'm here for awesome. Well thank you so much for joining me and talking about housewives mostly but answering all of my questions ends and for having me yeah yeah and hopefully we can talk again soon because this was really fun but listen juicy scoop and let me know when you listen to it and alhaji to the groups that you can tell the story about tom because everyone will love it all right well. I'll talk to you soon. Okay bye right <music>.

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GitHub Mobile with Brian Lovin and Ryan Nystrom

Software Engineering Daily

51:31 min | 6 months ago

GitHub Mobile with Brian Lovin and Ryan Nystrom

"Get Hub has been a social network for developers for many years. Most social networks are centered around mobile applications, but get hub sits squarely in developers, browser based desktop workflow, and as a result, the design of a mobile APP. Forget hub is less straightforward. Get up did acquire a popular mobile client called get Hawk which was developed by Ryan Nice Trim, and since joining Brian has worked on a new mobile APP forget hub along with a team of engineers including Brian Lovin. Ryan and Brian both joined the show to discuss. Get Mobile, and have they designed architect and built the APP. There is no company quite like get up. It's a social network combined with a version control system that provides a critical utility companies across the world. And all of this made for an interesting episode about a one of a kind mobile product. We are looking for writers. If you are interested in writing for Software Engineering daily, send me an email. Jeff at suffer engineering daily Dot Com. We are paying for some of these opportunities and I'm also looking for companies to invest in if you are running an infrastructure company, and you're interested in raising capital for it. Or something targeted developers Simeon email jeff at software engineering daily Dot Com. Today show is sponsored by strong. DM Managing your remote team. As they work from home can be difficult. You might be managing a gazillion SSh keys and database passwords and coober Nettie circuits, so meet strong DM manage an audit access to servers, databases, and Kuban as clusters, no matter where your employees are with strong DM. You can easily extend your identity provider to manage infrastructure access automate on boarding. Boarding off boarding and moving people with enrolls, these are annoying problems. You can grant temporary access that automatically expires to you're on call teams admins get full audibility into anything. Anyone does when they connect what queries they run. What commands are typed? It's full visibility into everything for SSh and RDP Cougar Netease that means video replace for databases. It's a single unified query log across all database management systems. Strong GM is used by companies like hearst Peleton, betterment, greenhouse, and so-fi to manage access. It's more control and less hassle. Strong DM allows you to manage an audit remote access to infrastructure. Start Your free fourteen day trial today at strong DM DOT com slash save daily. That's strong, DM DOT com slash se daily to start your free fourteen day trial. Ryan and Brian Welcome to the show up. They thrive in us. Yes, excited to be here. There is now a get hub APP for mobile a official. Get Hub for Mobile, so my first question is pretty obvious. Why didn't this happen sooner? You know it actually. Kinda did back in like two thousand twelve I believe get hub released an open source and android client to be honest. I don't know like the whole story, but at the end it just didn't take off as much get dot com like product development cycles. Did, take off, and it was just harder to kind of keep things up to date, not a whole bunch android users. There wasn't an. Apart- yet they did kind of workout. Get Hub SDK's. There was like a native St. OCTO kit. Maybe I think any ANDROID. One etc, and there've been other attempts at like building a mobile APP mobile site has gotten like responsive design and whatnot, but now I think it was just a right place at the right time that this opportunity opened up for us. We're their internal debates around actually marshalling the resources around getting a mobile APP. On both android and IOS with their internal debates about it, as far as whether to do it or not, or whether it higher or whether to do it how to do it. Why do it I mean I've only been here a year? But like just coming through some of the old posts and chats and conversations of it definitely seems like there was A. A lot of internal conversation about it whether to do it when to do it who to do it. ETC described the workflows where a mobile APP is actually useful I. Think most people think of get hub as a desktop centric application. My thinking on this is evolved a bunch in Brian I'm definitely going to want to hear your take on this, too. Too when we started I was thinking so I came to get her I'm having previously worked on open source APP called Git Hawk where I was really focused on vacation management where I wanted to avoid the scenario. Where I, get to my desktop, I opened up. Get up dot com slash notifications, and like three hundred notifications that are going to take me. Me The next two hours of my time to sift through. Whereas there's a lot of times, I'm out and about and waiting for a cup of coffee. I'm taking the bus. That can actually go through a whole bunch of notifications maybe get rid of some noise and maybe leave the most meaty important ones for when I'm back at my at my desk. And I thought that was like the main use case we filter out notifications. Maybe open up an issue. You leave a comment that says you're going to look into it later and then you put your phone away near done. What's actually been interesting in launching this? APP is people. Do people want to do a lot more than just respond to stuff to my surprise after launching the APPs, the APPs been live. We're mid June about three months now. The number one action that people are taking in our APP is actually reviewing code. And I still struggle to understand because sometimes I'm reviewing code from peers and. I'm using like a pro Max iphone here and even with this gigantic. Mobile screen. Sometimes, it's Kinda hard to read, but I think that speaks to the power that this gives people to be able to be walking around. Get a ping from appear. That's like Hey, do you mind reviewing my code? Really quick seeing like a twenty line change in being able to leave a review, not just approve it or ask for changes, but even comment on individual lines of code to evaluate herb reviews. Somebody's change is. Still kind of like blown away that that's what people are spending their most most of their time doing in our APP. Are there specific workflows that you would like to have on mobile, but they're just too difficult to implement on mobile. Yeah, there's a lot I mean. Get hub is over a decade old. There's just like tons of stuff that already exists that. We want to to think about how it. It should fit into the mobile APP. Some stuff that we're starting to think about now is around like. What happens if you're not super active with notifications, or what if you're not like power open source maintain, or what does the APP look like for you? And some areas were exploring like the more social side. Like how do you discover cool projects? You explore what's happening on? Get Hub, and like drill down into the source code. Is there any ways that we could replace that like gut instinct to check twitter when you're waiting in line at the coffee shop to check and actually learn something like read it to. Dig into some source and see some interesting patterns that people are are using in a language that you're interested in so I would say that's where we're were exploring right now. As far as like features and workflows that we want to unblock, it's basically the entire collaboration to merging code workflow. So can you comment on? Things can read a discussion happening around a particular pull, request or issue. You the code approve it. Request changes when a poll request is ready to go. Can you tap that? Merge Button NC emerging and know that checks NCI. In the background to play if we can get that full end to end system working then everything around that, we can start to make more exciting and interesting for people who might not necessarily be working on a project right now. I think that slack was out of left field in how it impacted. Get Hub workflows. Is it relevant to this conversation. The conversation around developing a get hub mobile application that slack has emerged in recent years. Do are there any workflows in get hub that actually are slack centric? Therefore, you don't need to think about them as much in developing up mobile APP. Well. It's kind of interesting that how much slack ends up getting used at get hub to build. Get her. There's a lot of integrations that people are using like chat, ops and bots in order to maybe deploy something or check status on something or automates something. We've in the middle of discussing ourselves as a mobile team about building better to be able to automatically deploy our apps like APP stores or Beta builds just from the slack. Basically trading slack like command line so as you said eight years ago, there was get mobile APP for Android and the project was eventually no longer maintained. It got released to the public. In between those eight years when. Between the initial getup effort at mobile applications and today. What change? What were the most influential changes on the platform? You're asking to newbies. Well like for instance. I think like within between now in eight years ago. I have to check the actual timeline, but think like Paul requests became a thing. Between like now in eight years ago, which is kind of a crazy thing to think about one of the engineers on her mobile team? She's been get hub for like four four and a half years in early in her tenure it get hub. She built like pull requests reviews in review requests, which to think of that being only like a couple, a single digit year old feature like mind blowing me because it's such a staple of what get hub is today. I mean the amount of stuff that's been launched. Get Hub in the past years is kind of mind blowing I mean some of the like primitives were used to, but also all the explorer stuff that Brian was talking about being able to surface new things all the new things that were announcing like satellite and universities year with discussions with sponsors. So. Many community tools Brian you look like you're I would add. To that list like actions feels like this one big piece of work that is unblocking you to do anything from get hub and trust get to be doing it in the background like processing and automating code reviews and limiting and see I and CD like all of that entire platform is enabling you to sort of plug into all different steps of the software development life cycle as we would say. Someone feels kind of the a critical one for me, and actually that is kind of the cool thing that has made the mobile APP Craig is. You can merge a request on mobile and just trust that in the background. All sorts of stuff is kicking off if you have action, set up for see INCD so we. We do that all the time right like we. We can merge a pull request and know that. That work is happening in the background and I don't have to be at my computer to sort of verify that or run another script from a command line or do anything else. How did the Microsoft acquisition of get hub affect the development process for the mobile. App I realize again you guys are newer, but do you have any perspective? For how Microsoft acquiring get hub has affected the overall product direction of the company. I think. I would say that maybe I mean. Brian mentioned actions actions I feel like has a has a really great story with with Microsoft. Microsoft is got a pretty awesome. Offering with Azure devops, APP center and more so I. I'm sure that behind the scenes there were some conversations about get a huge opportunity to add more value with actions as far as mobile goes, you know Microsoft's got to be honest. Like kind of a really impressive mobile APPs outlook is one of the first ones that comes to my mind I, think outlook. Is You know it's just known as like email and it's. It's been around for like a thousand years, but the mobile team both engineering and design does like excellent excellent work. When we first started Brian and I actually when we were both in New York, we met up with the outlook team and started talking about like. How do you do things? How do you work? Let's talk about design systems. Let's talk about engineering principles, so there's maybe a little bit of influence there, but. For the most part what's actually been kind of fun working on mobile APP get hub, but honestly just working at get hub is it does feel pretty autonomous. We're more or less able to kind of make our own product decisions design language our own technology solutions. We were using APP center at the beginning and then decided to kind of simplify and move things to actions and just test flight or Or the Google Beta program you know Microsoft we partnered with them, gave feedback and talked about like what worked. What didn't work and it was a great partnership, but wasn't necessarily from the outside. You might think oh Microsoft's taking over and they're gonNA. Tell you what to do and how to do it, and it's actually not like that at all. It's very collaborative with a ton of our own autonomy. We've given the high level overview of the impetus for building a mobile client and the context, so let's start talking through the design process. What was the product design process for determining I? mean get kind of a one of a kind APP. It's not like there's well defined templates for how to build an APP for a get driven social network, except for get Hawk which you had done before this, but tell me about the product design process. How did you start to lay out how this was going to work so? I guess you could think of is like we're. We're going through all of the possible workflows that happened on get hub dot com, the ten plus years of features that have been built, and we're trying to think about what actually makes sense on a phone. And when you think about. What makes sense on a phone? You're considering where a person might be when they're on the phone like they might be away from their computer. You might consider what the phone actually unlocks you to do that. A traditional browser when be able to do or at least not easily like push notifications. If you combine those things, you sort of land naturally in the space of like okay, there's notification triage. There's like conversations I WANNA! Know when when works happening when I'm away from a computer, or if someone needs, my attention very quickly can unblock them while I'm away from my computer like trying to break this connection to have your laptop on you twenty four seven, so that ended up getting us to where we are now, which is really deep in like? And pull request workflows, notifications, and then search to like actually just get around, and those are the three tabs that we have, so we home helps you find your stuff on. Get Hub. Get into the conversations that are happening like. Find the projects that you're working on notifications is like helping you drill down on blocked people and just know it's going on, so that's really how we. We started like what does the mobile phone on walk through sensors and API's? And then what actually makes sense for people to do while they're away from their computer I think if we keep following that line of logic. There's still quite a lot we can do, but we have to be pretty selective. Because get out of has so much stuff I think we run a risk of. Just rebuilding all of get hub inside a mobile APP like we've cluttered the interface, and it's not actually clear what it's for like. Is it a companion? Is it a duplication? How does this work with the desktop the Cli? Like what am I supposed to use to? which thing so? I think we're still being pretty careful about like what workflows do we want to think about? And it's evolving. We're talking about like explore and discovery. And how do you help? People discover the right projects to work on her. Learn a new programming language like those are things that make sense and seem interesting for somebody to do as a replacement for I don't know scrolling. scrolling twitter or something like that, so I guess it's not concrete where volving it, but certainly how it started was looking at complimentary behavior to what is possible on a browser i. want to add to what Brian was saying, too. I think something a principle that we've had pretty early on aknowledging how complex of a product of is is that like we actually have to have a really strong opinion of what the mobile APP should be, and that's actually been really fun for us is to take all of the complications, all of the different products, nuances and workflows in get hub into just drill it down to like. What should it be in the phone? And just design ideally like one way to do something so like a good example would be like how you you leave a review on a ques- behind the scenes. There's a bunch of different ways you can actually do that. In different teams have different workflows, and while I would love to be able to build and support every single workflow. Some of them are Kinda complicated and unintuitive on a small screen, and so we just set off to say you know what we're gonNA. Do this one way the way we think is right. We're GONNA. put it out there and we have to fully acknowledge that some of the time we're GONNA. Get it wrong and we have gotten it wrong, and we'll get it wrong again. But I think taking a firm stance on like what we should build and more importantly, what we shouldn't build has led us to success as far. How are you leveraging your experience creating? Get Hawk when you were building the mobile APP. I'm leveraging it pretty hard. You know a lot of the kind of fundamental and discovery of building that up applied to the new APP, and we've made some foundational architecture and technology choices like graph Kunal. We leaned into graph. You'll really really hard. When I was working on it pretty much by myself, I was. From the design side really didn't want to stray away from the system design language wanted it was an APP. I wanted it to feel like an IOS APP I wanted to be basically like the settings APP, but spruced up a little bit, so that the most novice get hub or user pick pick up their phone, open the APP and immediately know it to do. We brought that philosophy to not only our new Iowa set, but also our android, APP and so all of the designs. Almost all the signs were using the APP feel. Feel like a native APP. I mean it is a native APP, but like we want it to really feel and look the part, and there'd been a bunch of other core technology choices that I think we've made most importantly. It's just been like our decision making principles. We try to keep things simple. We try not to over engineer. It's more important to like rate ship something really quickly. Learn from our users. Fix things going forward and not be afraid to take risks when when get Hawk was like my own Little Hobby Project There was a lot of stuff that I. Just like act together and chipped and found out that people hated, and then we just deleted it and we moved on in. Even though we're a team of more than a dozen engineers now I want to continue doing that. I want to continue building stuff trying things taking some risks learned from our users as we go. As far as the technology choices for building mobile APPS. It seems like you could have used react native I mean how much complexity is. They're really in a mobile application. Why not just simplify it and make it cross platform? But you did not use react native. You guys built native mobile applications. Why is that? So. I've been building native absence like two thousand, ten or two thousand eleven before I came to get hub. I spent about five years working at instagram. Mostly as an engineer, while I was there and. React native was built by facebook. I saw a lot of awesome uses of react. Native is side of all of us. Grow I, also saw some of the costs to like an engineering organization and I. Think if you if you go all in, and you really know what you're doing, you can make a really great react native experience I quite frankly have never written a single line of react in my entire life, so I, if I as the sole founding engineer and lead of this team decided to jump headfirst into tech that I have no idea how to use appropriately I have probably set us up for failure. I have to acknowledge the cost. I guess of having native IOS Engineers and native android engineers, but I knew that we were able to achieve our mission of shipping a high quality IOS and android up faster using the tech I know, and by going out and finding other people that know their native tech stack really well. I'm not super knowledgeable here. On the tech stack and I know react. Native has gotten quite a bit better I I played with the in two thousand eighteen. It's moving quickly. It's getting better, but like I think it's worth calling out that it's ww DC week when we're recording this and there's something very liberating about being. Being able to watch a platform stream like this or like I owe and seeing new platform API's and being able to very quickly into what you're. GonNa get for free. What's going to be possible and not having to think like one layer of abstraction around that like Okay House react native handle that specific thing you know there's costs like we have to platforms two separate teams of engineers, but there's also this benefit that we get so many platform features out of the gate and it certainly earlier than react native might be able to support them. Is that Ryan and my articulating that correct? You're the expert here. No, yeah, you're spot on. There are a variety of different development platforms now for clients that are on different surfaces. You've got the desktop website. You've got mobile applications. There's get up desktop and I would imagine there are that can make the point management somewhat complex, because you have to have perhaps mobile and points you have to have you have to set up specific points, or maybe you can just use graph for everything. Tell me about how the end point management works. When you have these different surfaces I mean you kind of answered the question. Question we use y'all for everything. Almost one hundred percent of the IOS and android APP uses graph Kjell, except for a select number of of points end of the day where a application just like any other APP that you can make forget hub. We use the public API. We have some kind of like feature preview things that we're using before we actually publish the is, and we've done that in the past, and we'll continue doing it of creating new API's for the mobile APP, and then polishing them up shipping them. MAKING THOSE API is available for public use so I also managed the desktop client. Sorry Command Line teams here get hub, and those teams are also using a mix of of API's and graph. Kjell we have people that work on the mobile team that actually one hundred percent focus on supporting or adding API. Support to our APP, and that's been huge I. Think Graph Curiel has more or less let client engineers be their own API engineers and create and define queries to fetch the data that they need instead of having to lobby or put in a ticket with a server engineer who goes builds an. An API and then publishes it having to do that coordination, but there's still some time stuff that we need in the craft, Kelly. Pi that either doesn't exist or doesn't totally work as we need it to. Automatically focusing on what the user experiences so having somebody on our team dedicated to adding that support, also most importantly looking into security authentication issues in those sort of things. It's been invaluable. What are the things that you need out? Of perhaps the legacy back end? That are not supported by graph or have. Have you had to rewrite the graph gale and pointed all to include certain legacy infrastructure. Probably the most challenging trying to think probably most challenging API change that we've made thus far is with files in dealing with like get objects so at its core those are we have abstractions. Get. dotcoms built in Ruby on rails. We have abstractions overtop of actual get core object types, and when we want to display a file when we want to syntax highlight some code. We I have to have a branch. We have to have commit, and then we have to have a file path, and once we reach that path. We're going to get object that we maybe want to interact with load the contents of view, the history of in order to do those things. We ended up having to add API support to basically get. That's been pretty challenging I mean even to render a markdown file as styled markdown gets pretty complicated. Airs and bugs and crashes have an all the time across my software. Most often, these crashes have to do with obscure exceptions that come from react components failing to render on the client device. Source maps and stack traces would be useful, but in many cases I'm not able to identify the root cause because the error is occurring on a client device. It's not on my infrastructure. And what can I do about that? I can use century century dot io can quickly triage and resolve issues in real time. VISIT CENTURY DOT IO slash sign up and use Code Se daily to sign up for two free months. 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I often feel like I'm drowning notifications and so I imagine figuring out how to design around notifications for the for the mobile application has its own set of thorny issues. Tell me about how to get notifications right in the design. It's very hard. Probably don't have it perfect. There's just too many different ways that people use notification, so we're trying to build a set of behaviors and like interactions that will let people. At least find the things that they care about most quickly and get rid of the things that they don't care about very quickly so I mean one obvious example is like you can just swipe things away like just Kinda. Just swipe sight and clear out your inbox. We've also worked with the get hub DOT COM team to build out filters. You can jump to a specific set of notifications by repository, or by the reason. The notification was triggered like was it. It triggered because you were mentioned as a team reviewer because you were mentioned by name, or because you've at some point, clicked, subscribe on a particular issue, and there's been new activity in there so Caqueta get you into those filtered views as quickly as possible. We're working right now. On some more tools to help you clear out an inbox faster like being able to triage, just being able to select a whole bunch of notifications once Markham has done and move on. And then I would add. We've been very very careful about push notifications because we just know, there's too many people that get too much stuff. If we enabled push notifications for everything out of the gate, nobody would use the APP. It'd be a gigantic nightmare, so our philosophy has been. You have to opt in to push notifications, and then you're going to have to opt into each type of push notification. That is important to you luckily for us right now. Now the only type we support is direct dimensions such a pretty easy. If you turn on notifications, you get direct mentions, but eventually you know you can. We'll be able to support more push types like what happens when someone assigns you an issue or request your view on a request, you'll be able to opt into those specific sets of push notifications and really control the content that you care about and then the last thing that is on our mind which. We are working on hopefully hopefully, come soon. We're trying to think about. There are lots of people who use get hub as part of their day job. This is like a nine to five. They log into. Get up because they are doing work that they're being paid to do and outside of those hours. They don't want to check They don't WanNa be paying for this kind of stuff, so you've been thinking high level. Like what is it look like to just tell it hub. Hey, I work during these hours it's safe to. To tell me about new development activity happening on get hub within these hours, but outside of that. I don't really care, so we're calling this working hours. You'll be able to find that an APP. It'll be per day, so you can say Monday through Friday I work nine to five Saturday and Sunday. I don't WanNa hear anything at all, and will will silence those push notifications in the background given that schedule, so it's not quite do not disturb. It's a little bit of the inverse. These times where yes, you can send me things in every time else. We'll silence it, but it doesn't impact the rest of your. Applications on your phone with, do not disturb. Nice is useful because that's. Kind of a one of these things. It's Sorta like slack where it's like. Pro Sumer. It's a productivity tool. It's also consumer tool I can imagine wanting to see push notifications from something that you're casual follower of, but not wanting to see push notifications from something work related so I can imagine needing that really fine grain notification management there to to create the right experience depending on how you happen to use get hub other any other design decisions that come to mind when you when you think about this. Is this a productivity tool. Is it for work? Is it a consumer application dealing with those blurry lines in what get up is I. Think this is an interesting question. This is something that Ryan and I are grappling with daily, which is get hub has a lot of developers that use the platform within developers. We have a wide range of types of developers. You have your open source maintainers. We have new developers people who are learning for the first time we have super experienced hardcore people, but maybe just work for an enterprise organization, but then we also recognize that there's lots of other people involved in the software development process. We have designers we have. We have data, scientists and researchers we have. Executives and leadership teams and managers like all of these different people expect different kinds of things out of Gabon that explains a lot of features. You see like projects right like how do I organize all of this work? That's happening within a repository. So that's all right. Our thinking about right now is. In developers there's this huge variety of people in ways they might work, and then outside of developers like we can see those sort of I guess you'd say personas that type of person appear Mer designer, becoming a lot more common on Gavin, becoming more comfortable, being involved in the software development process, so we got to think about what tools those people need what information they care about. How do we help them? them get to it most quickly whether it's notifications, issues projects like other kinds of things like that. How do we help them? Get to where they can be actionable, as as possible and something to think is is really important to us, is that we launched the first version of this APP, mostly as like a productivity tool. When you got done triaging notifications when you got done reviewing pull requests, there was nothing. Nothing really to do in the APP and that was by design we didn't really want that was the purpose of the? We didn't really want you to do too much else. We're now starting to experiment a little bit with like explorer, what could trending surfacing trending repositories or people, or whatever in the APP look like, but it is kind of important to us that we don't ever want this to become an. An endless feed in endlessly scrolling feed of stuff, it's not our mission to keep people's eyeballs attached to their phone, consuming content, it's more important for us to enable people to discover more repositories in communities that they can collaborate to, and then start collaborating or to give them more important actionable things that they're able to do or even let them define maybe their own APP experience by customizing things adding shortcuts or Or whatever in not get into the realm of like endlessly scrolling lists, because that's not really what get hub is at its core and I think that's something that we we're really excited about helping people get their work done faster from anywhere unless about time spent in the APP or something. There are many Cic d were closed that center around get hub did CIC de fit into the design of get a mobile. It has not so much yet. If I'm being honest, I think there's a lot of opportunity and room for improvement there. I've already found myself. Even as we speak, we have a one of our builds its breaking. And all I want us to be able to flip open my ipad and jump into the logs. Maybe cancel it a rerun. It see if it's a flaky test, download artifacts and sift through that, but I really can't yet kind of on dot com from my phone from IPAD, but not as easily. I would love to eventually see a world where you could manage your runs from your phone I think it's actually very possible and. I actually think the experience would be pretty good. Before I thought like an endless stream of logs might be kind of insane. I think that we could actually build like a pretty fun experience. Yeah I think we gotta be careful because you could, I could imagine a world where like you could get a push notification about a failed build on a pull requests that you just opened and the cool thing about that is. You could open a PR on your computer walkaway. Go do something on your phone. If it's merging or not are failing I just wanted to call it like one principal that we've had I think we're doing pretty good here. I'd say we pretty close to one hundred percent coverage is. We can't support every possible workflow so on review we give people a share buttons that they can sort of abject out into their default browser on android or Ejecting out into safari where yes, the mobile websites shows you logs, and you can have buttons to rerun action stuff that we haven't built natively as long as people have the ability to have that escape patching and finish a workflow from the browser. Then we're comfortable sort of buying yourself some time to really think through what is the subset of that should exist natively with any mobile application. There is of course the issue of offline mode so desktop application. You don't really worry about that because you know you go to the website it for four hours if you're offline. So? Do you have an offline mode for the mobile application or do you just kind of ignore that case It's a great timing because we've been internal debate about what? The future of off line for our APPS it be, and we haven't entirely decided where we wanna take things, but I think. The hard part is that give up really is like a social network, and that social network has an object graph that is being mutated. Probably thousands tens hundreds of thousand times hundreds of thousands of times per second so having the latest, if we are cashing stuff off line, having the latest up-to-date data at all times is probably not gonna be possible, also because in our app we allow you to kind of endlessly link into users and Repos in issues and Paul request, and the rabbit hole is infinitely deep, and so keeping that data updated in sync as you're browsing, the APP is going to be like impossible if we're supporting fully offline, so I think there's always going to be an online component. That's going to be required otherwise. We don't also want to mislead the user by thinking. Oh, I'm flying. I'm opening. Opening my repository, but maybe that hasn't been fetched or updated in a couple of days. You're now on the airplane and you're thinking to yourself. Well. Wait a minute. Why are my star counts out of date or I swear? There was a poll requests over this one about this one feature. Now it's not showing up and there's ways from the design side that we can handle it, but I'm not sure that that's going to be super valuable to users, and where I think this could get really interesting is if we eventually started doing stuff with file systems with actually fetching the contents of get repositories, or maybe allowing you to like Fetch Repo contents and view them offline. But, I think in offline by default. I'm not necessarily sold. That will will support that. Yeah, I'm more interested in solving like the the problems that arise on the edges of offline, which is like Oh. You're driving and you go through a tunnel and you lose connection for a few seconds like how do we make sure that any work that's happening on? Your device gets in cute or Persisted in some ways, you're not losing data. If if network disconnects spotty network, we have users all around the world on various networks, strengths and qualities and different types of phones, and like we should be very considered about their experience on unreliable networks or with networks where large data payloads actually cost them money like people who are on prepaid phones and things like that, so I I want to design, really consider it features around the edges of that line, but then yeah taught Ryan, said like. How do we go fully off? Line is a hard problem. Yeah I would love to be able to. Be On the airplane phone and file, maybe like three or four issues that I think of features that maybe we should add to the apper bugs that may be found, and then put my phone away, and then, when the plane lands and I take my phone off of airplane mode that behind the scenes, those automatically get posted and filed i. think something like that would be great and something we could definitely do. The development of get mobile started more than a year ago and I'm sure the team has developed over time. What has been the process of scaling up the development workforce in allocating work and synchronizing work between those different teams given that its cross platform. It's been pretty wild. Started, so I joined get hub may twenty eighth at that time Brian and I were both living in New York. Twenty Thousand Nineteen Yeah. Thank you. It was just the two of us. I was doing development Brian was doing design, and since then we staffed up I. Think we have thirteen engineers now? Seven on US five on. Android and then one person working on the back end. As well as to managers to designers to product managers I think that's the full team to go from literally the two of us to that large, of I mean an actual organization in like twelve months. It's been been pretty wild just like code I, think that it's important to never get to attached to your process. How you do things process I. think should always be reevaluated. It should be experimented should be iterative on should be changed. It should be reverted. I'm classically terrible. It project management I can't stand it. I'm terrible at it. And what's been great. Is that I've been able to acknowledge that with the team and let the team. Kinda, bring their own ideas. We've frequently hold retrospectives on our own process. How a particular APP UPDATE WENT! Went feature development went, and we extract the things that worked really well in the things that didn't work really well most recently I've been experimenting with actually using it hub actions to improve like our actual development process by automatically closing things keeping issues in sync kind of like manipulating stuff leaving comments, adding labels, etc, and that's been pretty useful, but it's it's an ongoing process, and probably from now it's GonNa look entirely different. Had there been any deeply difficult engineering challenges that we haven't covered or is it more of like a set of product design challenges? It does seem like more of a design heavy P- set of problems or the engineering, heavy set of problems, probably the most complicated engineering problem we have in our APP is actual markdown rendering and support. It's gone through a couple of different iterations and designs and re factors, and there's still room for improvement I think, but a get hub one get hub supports markdown which is complicated behind the scenes. It's taking markdown and converting into. Into html that we end display on issues on dot com, but in addition to that has what they call it get flavored markdown, which allows you to do a bunch of other stuff. There's a subset of html elements that we support that also have a subset of html element attributes that we support, and at first I thought like hey, we can just rewrite the SPEC and do all of the handling ourselves that turned out to be super complicated, and so he experimented with revealing comments web us and all sorts of things that is also kind of like. Evolving and being improved upon. In the limit people want to write code on their phone. How much of the development workflow do you think we'll move to the phone? You know and we started I thought never absolutely never. Anybody would ever want to rake. But now I want to now. Well that's because Ryan lives on his IPAD so I would. I would almost like less about the phone and just like more about not a desktop, because there's just lots of devices that are outside of a laptop or desktop that Kinda makes sense. The IPAD certainly feels like a more clear candidate here just because of the bigger screen like we're getting better external keyboards with external track pads. That kind of stuff makes this feel. It's bridging the gap a little bit more smoothly so. But yeah the phone. It seems like there's just such a small subset of things you'd actually want to do like. Yeah, you could tweak a markdown file or fix some typos, but writing fully-fledged code and committing files like I. Don't know that maybe we'll get there. But on the phone that seems like more of a stretch. Has Building the mobile APP giving you any other newfound perspective on how software engineering might change in the future. It's really shown me. How much I actually don't need a computer to do software development, and not software development as in writing code, because as it stands at least for the nature of our work right now, building mobile apps like I need a computer to write code. But of our job, as a team is not necessarily writing code, it's communicating with each other on slack. It's writing issues responding to people. It's reviewing code it's. Brainstorming it's hopping on zoom to collaborate and discuss a new idea, and what's been really interesting, especially in this like Cova world that we're in I, found a lot of value in just like getting outside and trying to like work in different environments, being kind of cooped up in an apartment for. Three plus months now it's been really great to be able to take my phone. Take my ipad out to the lawn. Away from everybody away from my apartment and you know just keep working. Keep taking meetings review code for like an hour, and it's actually changed my perspective on what it means to be a software developer, and it's also a little bit liberating to you know not necessarily be in the office. Not Be you know the corporate office or my Home Office and still be able to build things with other people. I think is really really exciting. What are the upcoming features? Get up on mobile that you're focused on right now. Some of the big ones Bryan talked a little bit about the notifications support I. think that's pretty important to us right now. One of the big ones that we are committed to to reaching at least a V., one of support by the end of the year would be get enterprise support. And get help has a ton of of large customers they use on premises. Installs of enterprise to build build APPs to build their tools to just run their software development teams. Some of these companies you know have tens of thousands of employees, and we really WANNA. Find a way so that those people can also just as much as the open source, open source or get hub enterprise cloud users have been able to use our APP to build and collaborate on software. We want to do the same for on premise customers. Will anything else that? You guys would like to add about where you see. Get hub going or what changes you anticipate around the social network for developers. Think. We're seeing just more and more this liberation from the laptop and the desktop, and I think if we project out, you can just imagine the workflows we've talked about becoming better and smoother and faster around triaging and collaborating, reviewing discovering I. Think we can just go so deep there I'm excited also about like the massive amount of people who have yet to discover get hub, and who aren't developers yet, and what role can get help and like. Finding them projects to learn from and contribute to overall just build more software better faster more securely. It's like this really virtuous cycle that I think we can speed up and make it feel a lot more fluid away from a computer, because not everybody has five thousand dollar Mac books like if we can, but that on a phone, we unlock a lot of software development capabilities for a lot more people, so it's a little, high level and vague, and May tibial fluffy answer, but that really is our our approaching this. We can see a lot more activity. Happening on mobile, APPS over time, and as people transition to just not needing that keyboard all the time. All right guys will thank you so much for coming on the show real pleasure talking to you and congrats on expanding, get up to another set of services. Can I ask you a question before we go? please. What do you think the mobile APPS I think they're functional and I think they do. That's a compliment I love it. No, that's that's what we want to hear. I mean I think you don't WanNa. Go overboard, and you shouldn't the early iterations of it because you just WanNa. Be parsimonious with that design space. What do you think we should build next? where I would try to think about going would be. kind of like how facebook broke itself into multiple APPS I. Think you eventually need to break up? Get up into multiple APPS I. Don't think you can get it all in one APP. What's an example? WHAT'S SPLIT SPLIT OFF CIC? CSD right wrong. Maybe we're thinking about. There's just a ton of stuff all GONNA fit in. How is it going to be organized, and not like I don't want to become the. Overflow Tab, on the facebook APP, which is like literally a list of one hundred sub APPs that dogs in facebook. Where's that our? Facebook, and Click on the that the hamburger button in the tab far and just scroll away my friend and that's hard like feature discover ability and prominence and organization is hard. See Multiple APPs is interesting. I think certainly in the short-term we can find better ways to organize and surface threat things. I was wondering where Messenger kids was hiding. Now you got it there, you go. Does that sound realistic? Have you guys talked at all about having multiple APPS I think we've talked about more about. How do we help? People get to the things that they actually care about in the design workshops. I don't know if we could actually say anything concrete there, but I think that's the more interesting problem is like of all the things we can probably get better figuring out what what a given person cares about within their role of building software. Cool well. Thanks guys good talking to you. Thanks for having US thanks. Today's episode of Software Engineering Daily is sponsored by data, dog, a monitoring platform for cloud, scale, infrastructure and applications. Data. 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Clemson vs. Alabama Picks, Predictions, and Prop Bets with Thor Nystrom of Rotoworld

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Clemson vs. Alabama Picks, Predictions, and Prop Bets with Thor Nystrom of Rotoworld

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New guest on bang book radio that is sore Nystroem from Roda world on today. Man, it's going so well is an honor him the honor is all mine, man. I know that you and I've been talking a little bit more here. I know that you are I- regular the book radio listener at least for college football segments. Certainly appreciate that. Glad to get you on the program here. And hey, you know, what? No better day to do it then with the national. Championship game, Clemson and Alabama, Alabama five and a half point favorite total on this game has come down now into the fifty seven and a half ranch through. I know that you've got some pretty strong thoughts here on the spread for this game. Yeah. Do you want me to jump right in absolutely dive right in? Well, so I'm on Clemson in this game. And let me say first of all for for the the listeners out there. I'm a listener to okay, I'm I'm not a pro handicapper I'm a writer of Rhoda world. But this is one of the shows that I listened to all the time, you know, to to learn to get better and everything like that. Like, I know all of atoms guests, you know, between Kyle hunter, and Brian Leonard and Tony George. Ralph Michaels, Brad powers. I mean like it was hard of my weekly routine. But I I wanna make that caveat off the jump. However that all being said with all the work. I didn't of this game. I did settle on. Clemson. I'll be taking Clemson, plus the points and also Clemson outright, an atom. I'm curious your take on this. And then as we go through the props I guess just to sort of like start out and like set up, you know, set the table and everything for me, the the Neutralizer here is not Ella bama's offense. It's not Alabama's passing game. It's not too. It's not any of that stuff for me the Neutralizer in this game is Clemson defensive line. Even without Dextra Lawrence. Specifically the pass rush. I mean, everybody knows the two first rounders on the edge. You know, maybe one of them's going to go on day two. But they also have a five star true freshman behind them who is perhaps one of the best defensive backups in the nation. So they always have to elite fresh edge rushers coming off of the edge. Clemson also plays with five defensive backs at all times. And I know one of the guys move to linebacker is a guy that you like in the props later. So we can kind of wait to talk about I j at Simmons. But he was a guy who was a safety before. And they moved them up to weakside linebacker this season. He also plays Nickelback. And he he's gonna be a guy that's really important for this too. But that's my first thought, and we can get into like the granular of this. But that's where I'm at right now. Yeah. I think it's it's such an intriguing match-up because you know, I think a lot of people wanna look back at the previous games that we've had. And I know that you mentioned that in your phenomenal right up over at rota world two page write up you have over there, you Clemson covered in the first two games, of course, one of them one one of them outright. And then last year just not a good show. And last year was the weakest Clemson team because of Kelly Bryant, and this isn't a knock on his talent. It's just that. He you're not scared of him throwing the football. Trevor Lawrence is a different kind of guy. You're scared of him throwing the football. So Alabama has that to worry about on defense. But to your point about the defensive line, this Clemson defense is that good because of depth because they continue to recruit at such a high level, and that's a big deal here in this game. And I think it's a corollary into one of the props that I do like a ton in this game. But I like the point you brought up there that clemson's going to be fresh on the defensive line if they're able to substitute. And that's the thing is that for for two very very good quarterback. Very accurate type of guy. But we know that his mobility has been in question because of that ankle. Oh a hundred percent. Yeah. And you know, that goes back into the pass rush it thing. Like what what is the one thing that reliably takes down or can cause turbulence for Alabama's aerial show. I would suggest that the listeners out there. It's not necessarily having the best defensive back, you know, defensive backfield in the nation. I mean, certainly that would help obviously it's the pass rush. You know, it's getting into the backfield. It's screwing up the timing in the point that I'm trying to make in the column you did this goes with several different things. But Adam to your point, you know, who is ankle has not been so not just you know, since the Georgia game we saw this throat the season were to would be hobbling around. He's a guy that if you can hit him, you know, I I don't know if this is going to be something. That's it's an issue throughout his career because of his frame or whatever. But this is an issue that we've seen throughout this season. Obviously, he's he's still not one hundred percent healthy mean, Alabama will just outright admit that to you. And so when you think about like, you know, this idea of two and now now he's scrambling around. Now he's under. Duress. And now he's out of the pocket when when you think about that Ariel showing you just go through your head, you know, and every single game that they played you go back through, you know, to to to the SEC scheduling and some of those teams they played and whatnot. Win Alabama scary when they are clicking when they are. You know terrifying. Shoda behold, it's always went to is you sitting back there. And he's got a little bit of time in his receivers have time for the routes to develop and in the point. I want to make to the listeners is Alabama's receiving course. Awesome. Absolutely. I it's insane. It's sick. I'm you know, I'm not gonna like Bashar it at all. But is missing one thing that I think would be like super valuable in in this matchup, and that's this. Well, Alabama's got like four star receivers. And they also have a stud tight end, the, you know, they can both block and catch the the one thing they don't have is like a Linke outside monster on the outside and Clinton got these in space, you know, specifically with t Higgins and Justin Ross in the outside. But all of Alabama's receivers are, you know, you're talking about like, you know, six foot guys. Under two hundred pounds. They're all speedsters all sick athletes. You know, if you give them time to get into space, they find it slipper space to has his time kits them on the numbers. They're gone. You know, whether it's water, whether it's Judy you know, rugs is around for the possession stuff. And obviously devante sort of you know, we know what he did last year, you know, in in his game. So the, but the the the key point being they need time to get into their routes. And in two is also a guy who's far better when he's not under duress. You know, you you think about a guy who like, you know, win win two is bad too. It's typically because he's being pressured he's running around. And and he's not a quarterback who will say die. You know? He he's not a guy who like if you float from out of the pocket to is not just going to sort of you know, start to run towards the sideline and then sort of calmly throw the ball out of bounds. That's not as game. He's gonna keep running around. He's gonna keep you know, looking down field. And if even sees a sliver of something he's chucking the ball up. You even if he seems something you know, we've seen a make some baffling mistakes in in the past. And of course, we've also seen them make some of the most incredible plays that we saw this year. And then of course, you know in the second half of last year's title game. But that's why I think it's it's so important if you get pressure on him, not only are you sort of leveraging the injury that he already has an and making him play into the worst of his skill set. Which is you know, running around under duress like, oh, I I can't give up on this play late. Let you know we we have to make a profit on this by let's Chuck it down feeling all this kind of stuff but album. Also does not have receivers that that excel in contested situations, you know, to gets into those those those situations where he's running around. He just shuts it up. He doesn't have a t Higgins to go up, you know, and sky up there where he can beat a guy or two guys, you know, by by getting higher than them for the rebound, judy's, not gonna do that rugs isn't gonna do that Waddell. It's certainly not going to do that. And so for all those reasons that's why. When I kept thinking about this game. And I wanna make another point to you know, I I was on Alabama in last year's game. Because of the reason you mentioned, Brian I was on Clemson two previous ones. And I I love the point you made. 'cause for me it almost is that simple where now clemson's got a good quarterback. Again. I mean betting betting against Bryant. Last year was was was pretty easy for me. But this is a different story and because of clemson's defensive line, even without Dextra Lawrence. I just think that they can neutralize some of the things that contribute Alabama special sauce on offense. Well, and and what I love about this game. And I understand that. Maybe there's you know, some Alabama Clemson exhaustion because they're playing for the fourth time in four years in the college football playoff third time for the title. But the reason being is because of these specific matchups that we're talking about because you've got Sunday players at damn near every position for both of these teams. And you have these individual matchups where you know, the their individual maximums that can decide this game. And you've got some of the best coaching staffs in the country trying to look at how to export any little advantage that they have. That's why I love this game so much and why you know, I probably won't have a play on the spread for this game my power and number was Clemson plus four and a half. I know you wrote the article you were looking at an adjusted number of Clemson, plus one and a half. So you'll certainly overlay there for you. And and I certainly understand why you're looking to take the Clemson side as a result, not just because you've got you know, when adjusted number where it's where it shows value. But also you took this down to way match. Up level to a schematic level. And then decided, you know, what there are too many check marks in the Clemson categories for me to avoid, you know, playing this game the thing that I wonder about here. And this is something that we haven't touched on yet. You mentioned too obviously trying to avoid the rush limited mobility, things of that sort how effective is this Alabama running game because that may be the x factor here. You know, we think of Alabama as a dominant team running the football. They were better passing team than rushing team this year. So from that standpoint how effective can the crimson tide running game be to ease. Some of that pressure off too. I don't think it's going to be very effective at all, you know. And and that's you know, a big part of my handicap with his game. And why thank you know, everything gets leveraged onto to. Well. I mean that that's over simplified take really everything gets leverage onto Alabama's offensive line and pass protection this game. But a part of the reason why I came to that sort of understanding of the game in my handicap was because I I just don't think Alabama is going to be able to run. I mean, nobody runs on. Clemson. It's it's just not really an option. And I know people are out there thinking, well, Alabama's got three NFL running backs. They absolutely do, you know, Damian Harris, obviously, he's really good Najah Harris's good. And Josh Jacobs might be the best of the bunch. So they do have options there. And it's not a bad blocking run line is well on the Obama offensive line. It's just that clemson's next level dominant against the run even without Dextra Lawrence. I mean, like, you know, heading into the Notre Dame game you were thinking, well, you know, without you know, and you know, now they're going against extra Williams who's had like. Bunch of games in a Rosen's. He came back from suspension like maybe they could do something. No. You know, they didn't do anything. You know? I forgot if it was like thirty five rushing attempts for like eighty five yards total. I think I think extra got held in the low fifty Dextra Williams got held in the low fifties. So I just don't think that Alabama's gonna be able to get much going on the ground for for me if I'm going into this game. Like if I'm Nick Sabin. What I wanna do initially is be extremely aggressive from the jump, you know, in in in terms of passing passing passing. And I'm basically trying to figure out, you know, like sometimes I think these matchups like in a match up, you know, and like the different skill sets. And and what would be the way that the fighters would go in if the other fighter like had this Pacific skill in this specific weakness and whatnot. And you know for for this game what you're trying to identify like if if you're on the Alabama side is we're exactly in that Clemson secondary. What can we start to pick on you know, how can I if I'm Nick Sabin? How can I play Lincoln Riley from from less? You know? Saturday, or whatever how can how can I find the Patrick, sir? Take on on the other team that that I can pick on in coverage. And that's what I'm trying to figure out. I I if I'm them. I don't really try to run a ton initially, you know, outside of just keeping people off to to because I I don't think it's going to be very effective. As is. I I think it's just gonna be wasting downs. More or less. All right. Let's look at this from the other side. Then I mean, obviously, it sounds like he's the Alabama is going to have some issues with this Clemson defense. And certainly there's a strong statistical profile Anderson outright talent profile for the Clemson defense. What about this Clemson offense against the Alabama defense? How do you feel that stacks up? Oh, man. It's it's another really interesting handicap, it's I I think they match up. Okay. The the Clemson offense. Here's what I like. Okay. Clemson's offense can be more balanced going in like period, right like because Clinton's defensive line is that Trump card against Alabama run game. So so Alabama if Alabama is not affecting sorry. If Alabama is not affectively passing especially early on. I don't know that they can win this game. Like, they're passing it needs to be awesome. Whereas with with Clemson they can do both because Alabama's defense does not have that Trump card. I mean, I suppose someone out there could be screaming what about quinoa? And and what about the, you know, you know, rake on or whatever and in the middle. Alabama's got awesome defensive tackles quitting Williams is. I mean, he might be the best player in the nation. You know, just you know, irregardless of everything else. He probably the best player on Alabama's team started the two supporters. He's starting everything. But Alabama's defense this year. It's not the same. You know, lashes Alabama team that that that one time. Title, basically to me they were like ninety five percent of this Clemson team that Alabama team was number one in the nation in essence plus defense and their offense was in the twenties. Well, clemson's, you know, one defense this year and their offense is five. So that's he was a little bit down. But you know, this team is is different. Right. And and so it's you know, it just causes different things, you know, as far as the match ups go. So, you know, I I think that that dabbled can go in in contrast to save and where where I think saving initially again aggressive. Let's try to find in that Clemson secondary. Let's try to find what JIMBO Fisher and Texas and M did in the second half. When Kelham on threw for three hundred thirty three yards and three touchdowns or whatever it is. And you know, these other teams that have had aerial success on them in and with dabble. I think that they can do both. You know, I I think they're gonna see you know, with Eddie. And what can they do with Eddie? And like are they going to try to avoid the middle? And and go to the outside, you know, you void Quinton and Ray Kwan, Chris. The outside linebacker for Alabama might not be playing. Are you going to try to stress the perimeter goal at the fact that Alabama's defense allows a lot of explosive runs in clemson's one of the elite teams in the nation running the ball. Are you going to try to do a little bit more inside that than we think heading in clemson's a very clever zone blocking team? You know, you look at their their offensive linemen, and none of them really jump up page. Like some of these guys have been around for a while like Mitch. Hi, it's been around forever. You know, he's protecting Shawn Watson back in the day Pollard. Like, you know, a lot of these guys or whatever. But you know, none of them really jump off the page, but they are more effective. You know, as a group than you would think, you know, just from looking at NFL draft perspective. They Clinton was a team that was affected running the ball inside this season. I'm not sure if that's going to be the case here with all the monsters inside for Alabama. But again, the the thing that they have going for them is that they can do either right from the jump Clemson could be more unpredictable on offense because they can both run and pass. And I you know, I think they're also going to try to. Suss out early on where those weaknesses are, sir. Tanzi obvious when I mean, he's the one that everyone's been been talking about him. I'm sure we're going to see you know, plums and trying to target him. You know, whether it's you know, ser tan ENZA being across from Higgins or under whether he ends up being across from Ross. And then, you know, just seeing where else they can you know, they can pick it that Alabama defense, but that Alabama defense has dropped number twelve s and p plus from number one last year. And so it's it's just a far different Alabama team that you know, a lot more of the burden is on that offense and it hasn't years past. Now, I will say this, obviously, you're building strong case for Clemson. And you certainly did that in your mega preview as well. Which once again phenomenal peace over it wrote a world highly recommend that everyone goes and checks that up, but we do have to throw some sort of devil's advocacy in here. And I thought this that you mentioned about Trevor Lawrence with regards to a key injury for Notre Dame in the semi-final was really really strong. And I think that's worth mentioning here. Yeah. It it absolutely is and just to set up Adams question there for for everybody. So heading into the playoffs. And and by the way, I wanna say this to I got the Oklahoma pick right last week. But I got the Notre Dame Clemson one very wrong. I stepped into your trap with Notre Dame. And a part of my reasoning. There was this idea that Lawrence hadn't played an elite defense all season. You know, he's a true freshman put up awesome stats like, you know, Clemson at beaten every team that had played when when Lawrence it started and finished game by twenty points or more. You know in everything was great. The only issue was the best defensive they played leading up into that. Notre Dame game was Boston College at the time. I believe it's like and plus number twenty eight defense. Well, you you know, Boston colleges saw defense. You know, they have some NFL players on it, you know, specifically on the edge, and it safety, but you know, it's not not any like, elite shakes or anything. But Notre Dame is Notre Dame as a top five defense in quarters Lawrence play. Very good in that game. Boy as Adam was mentioning it. It's a little bit. I almost don't wanna say misleading, but it's absolutely tidbit that people need to know. So Notre Dame has this stud cornerback Julian love, you know, guy who the NFL loves to use the obvious stupid pun. And when love was out in the second quarter. He he suffered a minor head injury. And then Notre Dame before halftime in that second quarter was trying to get him through the custom protocol and Brian Kelly talked office after the game where you know, Julian love was having some issues getting through before halftime. So he he ends up sitting out the entire second quarter. But he plays most of the rest of the game during the second quarter Trevor Lawrence when thirteen of fifteen for two hundred twenty nine yards and three touchdowns in the three quarters that love plates or the first third and fourth Lawrence went fourteen and twenty four for ninety eight yards and zero touchdowns and the caveat, I need at their to to to the caveat. Is that you know, clemson's offense was a little bit off. Off in playing conservatively early on. You know, similarly, I suppose to Oklahoma against Alabama where they were just sort of, you know, I don't know if it was nerves or just feeling things out or whatever the the first quarter is a bit more sluggish. Obviously, the the second quarter was ridiculous. It was like Notre Dame. It's like when you're playing your body like an NBA two K, and like, you know, things are going wrong for him. And he just goes on tilt, and you, you know, you end up having a forty know fifteen quarter whatever, and that's what happened there. But then in the second half, Clemson at opened the thing up so much that, you know, their offense was, you know, super conservative there in the second half. They were just trying to kill the thing out. But it is still worth mentioning that Lawrence did go off but predominantly in that second quarter in love was not playing. All right. So let's talk about to prop, sir. I think it's a fantastic thing to keep in mind. And of course, we'll see you know, how Trevor Lawrence fares era against this Alabama defense, but the pro market, I think is the way to attack this game. As I mentioned just before we got on the line here while I do think that you made a strong case about Clemson. And obviously from Apollo rating standpoint, you do like Clemson in this spot. It's pretty close to my number. And I think this total really could go either way. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a, you know, a thirty or forty two thirty seven shootout or game that ends twenty seven twenty four something like that. But you know, the props. There's so many props is out there. So it with regards to Trevor Lawrence, you mentioned this, and I certainly agree that this is a massive concern. If he gets hurt, you know with Kelly Bryant no longer around that may be curtains for clubs, and that would be very bad. It's alteration. But also percent how how do you beat Alabama? You have a dual threat quarterback. You have a guy that they have to worry about running the. Football some I bet Trevor Lawrence over fourteen and a half rushing yards. And then over at Ben online and some of the other places that do player props. They haven't at least prop so at least fifteen yards at least sixteen yards at least seventeen yards. I've been it all the way up to at least twenty yards because I think that has to be a wrinkle here four Clemson just to get Alabama to respect that a little bit and open more throwing lanes for a kid. That's you know, easily playing the biggest game of his life. One thousand percent. Yeah. Out of my I saw your calm this morning. That's Deb may end up being one of my favorite props. I I haven't gone all the way through the entire thing and locked up my point. I love that one. I mean, this was something, you know. And I was just thinking about the match up. You know, I there the last thing, you know, I do the spread. I do total all that kind of stuff in my head. I see the game playing. And then I I start looking at the props. But I love the Lawrence wine. You know? I mean, it's it's it's obvious for a lot of people out there listening by Alabama. Of course, you know, with Nick Sabin over the last five six years here what they struggle with specifically dual threat quarterbacks in spread offenses now Lawrence's is technically a pocket passer. But that really doesn't do his game Justice, you know, they're recruiting profiles. He's he's more than that. And Clemson hasn't asked him to run a lot which this season, which makes a lot of sense because after after Bryant left let like you're mentioning if Lawrence gets injured now, you fall down to Bryce, I mean, you, you know. The the season prospects we're gonna we're gonna dim and and if that happens in this game like you're mentioning a cleansing done. If Lawrence gets injured put the the running aspect is is really important and just to give people an idea of this that that haven't heard about some of this stuff with with Obama's defense in the past. I'm gonna give you the list of of of quarterbacks and offense type that have beaten Alabama. Alright since two thousand and twelve so you have the Texan. Mt. Johnny Mandel, obviously is a spread offense in two thousand twelve thousand thirteen they locked loss, Nick Marshall and Auburn spread they lost. A Trevor Knight spread the next year. Bull. Wallace in old MRs spread they'll have to cartel Jones in two thousand fourteen playoff spread offense Shad Kelly in two thousand fifteen other law so ole miss spread offense. Then of course, the Shawn Watson and then last year jer stood him in the spread. And so so typically, that's what gives them issues and we saw this last last week with Kylie Murray and Oklahoma's offense. And so, you know for for dabble and his staff who just watches all kinds of film. And it's always looking for an agency opponent. Of course, those I mean, those guys know. Alabama probably better than a lot of the SEC teams know, Alabama at this point. I mean, you know, when when dabbled Sweeney's preparing for the season, I think he's preparing for Alabama as much as anyone I I think that's why he pulled the plug on Kelly Brian as soon as he dead, even though you obviously was undefeated at the time to beat me. And I'm like all those different stuff. And when you know when they're sitting down and looking at that defense, Alabama's defense is designed in a similar way to Michigan to beat offenses in a phone booth. That's that's what they wanna do. And that's always been sort of the idea, and you know, obviously, the past you know, much better defense this year regressed a little bit. But the profile of it remains the same. And so you you can catch them with their pants down every now, and again, you know, by by, you know, all take the listeners back to that Ohio State Michigan game where you know, everybody thought that Michigan's defense are just gonna, you know, do whatever and they kinda got ripped. You can do the same things that Ohio State. Did Michigan Taylor bama's defense and albums defensive worse. Michigan's this year, quite you know, getting their line. Backers defendant space getting them to worry about the quarterback runs. You know, all all that different kinds of stuff. Just just get people in space and the Lawrence run thing. I think is important you gotta be very careful again. Because like Adam said if Lawrence gets injured this game is over. So you can't get too cute with this. But if it's me, I'm calling at least a few design quarterback runs because I've seen it on film. You know, reliably we can steal your from Alabama by doing this, especially when they're in specific aligns we get specific pre-snap breathe whatnot. And the other thing is is I'm telling Lawrence like listen kit, because you know, this isn't something he's done all year. I I'm telling him listen kid, like, you know, if you see them in man coverage and your back there for like three percents that you just can't see anybody open. You gotta understand like winning is coming. He he will be here any second. Even if you don't see me in your face or an he's going to get there. And he's like coming for John Boehner at all times. And so if you're Lawrence, and you see uncovered you see some of those Alabama defenders running down feel that they're back to you. And and a couple of. Ends of ticked off. And no one is open run. You don't think about it run because you're going to be able to steal yardage there too. So I think Adam did you say the number was fourteen and a half. They you sell this morning. Yeah. I saw it with a really and a half a little bit of extra juice, minus one fourteen. I take it. Absolutely. Now, you mentioned looking at Alabama to be aggressive early on in this game. I fully agree with that. I think one of the things that they want to do in this game is one with a lot of tempo. Keep Clemson from substituting on the defensive line as much as they can. I do like to over twenty one and a half completions. As I mentioned last week on the show with Brad powers sounds like something you would be in agreement with as well. But I know you said you haven't had a chance to dive through all the props as of yet or but any of the ones that you have seen here. So far anything we haven't talked about that kind of stands out to you. Sure. Yeah. I I like the Eddie and over of rushing yards. You know, whatever it is. And he was like in the low eighties. When I saw last time I like that one because again, Alabama's defensive front while it's very good specifically defensive tackle, they struggle with a couple of different things against Iran. I mentioned before too many explosive runs given up. They also struggle with stuff rate, which is just like a stunning thing to see other people's page because they get so much kind of trade. But they don't often, you know, make tackles behind the line I against against running teams, you know, at least had a top forty clip. And so if Eddie and just brakes one long run like he doesn't almost every game. He's going to be very close to that total just once, and I think he's going to have success. Like, I I I kinda like Eddie into challenge one hundred yards here. And so I I like that one I love the under on whatever gaming harasses rushing, total is I I don't even think Damien hairs is going to be like their most important back in this game to me. That's that's your shakeups. His his skill set is more diverse, and that's all you need here. Like you need a guy on the field at all times. It can go out there. You know, can do a little pass block and can go out on routes like everything like that. So I I think Jacobs will be out there more and the only chance that it Damian Harris has to get over sixty rushing yards. It would take a kind of game where Alabama's offensive line's playing off something neutralize clemson's pass rush to you know, to click and he's he's sitting his early. They opened up a lead at that point. You could start to use Damian and try to you know, Bryant him and Brian Clark down. But you know, even still you'd still be going up against you know, one of the best run defenses. We've seen in the last decade. So I don't like that matchup at all. So I take the under on that. Well, what are some of the other ones you're looking at Adam David Harris under fifty and a half at five times, minus thirty forty nine and a half. Excuse me, a bed online minus a dollar twenty. You know, one of them that I looked at I it's a little bit jockey. But off. Pence scores all touchdowns minus one eighty I mean these are quarterbacks that combined through eight interceptions during the regular season. And of course, they're the semifinals and then only nineteen sex between the two so he's guys do take care of the football for the most part. I don't think I'd special teams with all the four and five stars that we really see too many dramatic breakdowns. You can get that minus one eighty at five times for the offense to score all touchdowns. Dude. This is why I like your work so much 'cause you know, I I read that column this morning, and I got to that, you know, somebody's other ones I've seen it in. And I liked and I agree with you. And that one is is one that I hadn't seen I hadn't even thought about it. But it just makes so much intuitive sense. And you made you made an airtight case in that poem. But the the only other things that I'll I'll mention you know, these elephants is take care of the ball Lawrence through the fewest turnover worthy. Throws in the entire FTSE this year. According to pro football, focus. He also doesn't take super tax or, you know, make stupid fumbles or whatever. And then the other thing, you know, with regards to your special teams thing both. These teams aren't good on special teams. The the only team that would be a threat. I think to run back would be Bama because that's the only thing that they're special teams is good at there specifically their kick return unit. However, clemson's only special teams strength is there. Kickoff cover. Unit. And so, you know, those things get merely just cancel each other out. You know, I think you'd be fine there. I I wouldn't expect there to be a special teams touchdown. And this isn't something I would have said in past years, and in fact in that, you know, the the year that Kenyan Drake ran that that ninety five yard or back in the fourth quarter to help Alabama. Like, I think that was the forty five to ten or sorry forty five to forty Alabama win where they staved off. Clemson there that was year reclaims it had super bad special teams. But Alabama was better. And so did you know that was one thing I bet on Clinton in that game? But I made the point of my right up. Like, this is this is like a very specific tangible area of the game where Alabama could absolutely steel points. But in in this game, you know, both like I say both special teams units are bad. They're each good at one thing. But that those two things are probably gonna neutralize themselves out. And then. Yeah. As far as the defensive touchdown. It is kinda hard for me to visualize. It. I think the only, you know, I mean outside of just like a, you know, an act of God. God kind of fumble. The only thing within the normal flow of the game that I can even think of that could lead to one would be one of those things I was talking about before like with to flush out of the pocket now he's running around. He's not really sure what to do. But he's not gonna throw it out of bounds. And and you just sort of flings one and a guy like Trayvon Molin steps in front of it. But I don't like the odds of that. And especially if the odds that you cited at him. I I really liked that one. I know we're on a little bit long here. But there's one more prop. I wanna talk about with you. And I saw this one over a bed online. I think it's really fascinating points scored in Clemson versus Alabama is minus one twenty five against points scored in Super Bowl fifty three plus one oh five on the take back, obviously the total here for this game. Or you know in the fifty seven and a half range. Now is it's come down with the bears and the ravens being knocked out of the NFL playoffs that prep at all of a sudden gets really really interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It it. It really does. And especially like with you know in this game. Like when the Bama Clemson game. When I when I first started looking at it. I really liked the over, you know, just just thinking about it because both these defenses. They're you know, they're weak spots are in their secondary's their strengths on the defensive line. So I figured you know, it's gotta gotta be a pass heavy script on both sides. And I figured bam was gonna come out of graduate. They did. Well, now has got a little bit more. He's points, whatever. And then the total like, you know, suspiciously drops like right at the start of the week. You know, I I don't know if it sound like three points. I I think it was around sixty one before. And now it's fallen, and it it it keeps sort of falling a little bit and my Spidey senses. Just wind up with you know, where where if you've done this long enough, you see something like that. And you're like, okay. I I know what kind of money comes in early on the week on an under on a public game. Like this like, I do not want to be going up against those guys. So, you know, with regards to a thing like that I would have loved and maybe even still like it. As far as the payment Clemson want because circa think like, you know, I I think you made the point in the column of like, you know, if if the Rams in meet up. Okay. Well, now now, we have a total that will challenge it. But outside of that. I mean, Adam how many other matchups where if these teams made the Super Bowl, and you had previously the Alabama Clemson side of that prop. How many other matchups can you think of where you would be terrified that you had the Alabama Clemson over ticket in that problem? I mean, I guess I the chiefs have to make it out of the AFC. I mean, that's pretty much it for me. I I don't even think Indianapolis as good as India's offense is. It's just not as explosive from a big play standpoint with two weeks to prep. I would have to get out of the AFC, and I would have to get either the Rams or baby the eagles, you know, potentially. I don't even think the saints give up you know, a ton of points in that game. So that's it's hard. It's hard to see a path where the NFL game goes higher. Then again, five of the last six Super Bowls over fifty points. Three the last six Super Bowls over sixty points. So it's a scary prospect to make but I think it leads to a lot of interesting discussion at the very least. Yeah, it it. You know, it it really does. And just like thinking about it here. You know? I'm just sort of like running the math in my head. I, you know, I was thinking, well, maybe I'll just lay off to total. You know, I did have a lean, but then this stuff happened. And so maybe I don't have a leaning more whatever. That that one might be sort of interesting hedge for people out there were like me who did lean over. But then they they sorta got spooked by some of this line movement. There was this talk at the weather could be bad and Santa Clarita night. You know like last week. I I don't actually think that's going to end up being the case, you know. But just because of that this won't be an interesting hedge because you don't necessarily need to hit the over to win that bet. Yeah. No. I agree. I think it's a really really smart way to look at it. I think he looked at this game the national championship here in a lot of smart ways. Again, I very highly encourage everyone to go check out the mega preview over at rota world that door put together along with some help for some of his colleagues there with regards to the draft and some prospects keep an eye on stuff like that. But really really good piece over there or up. You know, I know you're primarily the college football guy over there. What are you going to do after this this being the last game of the year or we're jumping to the NFL draft after this? So you every season I go all the way up through the national title game. And and everything and then never think about it from an NFL draft perspective. But then right when this game gets done, I put my NFL draft hat on the end of April, and I get to dive fresh into that, you know, you get out of you. And I were talking about this over DM's, but you know, every season you do this so much and you're just grinding grinding grinding grinding grinding. And you know, sometimes you need that second wind, you know. And I got it when we started Boll sees. I certainly got it today. Even though I'm just running off. Fume. So my gosh, you know, being Christmas night and everything you know, and stuff like that. And now we move you know after this game this epic game. And and by the way to your point before may have people who are complaining about Alabama. Clemson get outta here. You know, not not college football fans to me. You know, we we've got belbow a creed tonight. You know, we've got Celtics Lakers for for my generation of college football fans. This is the thing, you know, this is these are two concurrent dynasties going head to head. You know in the just so happen to meet, you know, in this space in time, and and dabble with his Alabama can actually all that different stuff. Like, it's just so cool. So I've super-duper looking forward to this game, obviously. And then you know, after this I'm super duper looking forward to diving headfirst in the NFL draft. Got store noise. Who's working and find at rota world at four K U T H O R KU on Twitter. Great followed definitely wanna make sure that you're falling him tonight. And as we go throughout the draft process, and of course on into college football for next season as well. I know I kept it a little long, but had a great time with it really enjoyed it. And maybe next year, we'll make this a little bit more of a regular thing for you. Oh, I I'd love it at him. I I've just been pinching myself a lot. It's thirty minutes. You know, just having listened to the pod so much, you know, all throughout the season. And now, I'm like on it. It's it's like the strangest thing, and I'm just tickled pink. Like, you know, thank you so much for having me on. Absolutely. Thank you so much for coming on as little bit tro to suicide greatly. Appreciate that thorn is Jim from rota world. Enjoy the game tonight. Man. We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks so much you too Bye-bye. Hey, you with the rhinestone dog collar between us dogs. I just convinced. My human of grade to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized new home was within reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash wolf. 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"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Barbara Kline. President Trump is in South Korea after leaving the g twenty summit in Japan. Earlier today, Trump is hoping to meet with North Korean leader. Kim Jong UN briefly tomorrow as NPR's, Michael Sullivan reports from Seoul, it would be their first face to face. Encounter since February summit broke down after a working dinner with South Korea's president moon Jae-in President Trump on Sunday plans to visit the demilitarized zone between north and south where he could meet North Korea's leader. Kim Jong moon this morning. Osaka time, Trump tweeted his plan to visit the DMZ and ask him to meet him there for a handshake and a quick. Hello, Trump repeated the invitation at his news conference before leaving Osaka. I don't know that a will, but it could happen. I know I think he'd like to do it, and I wouldn't mind doing it at all such a meeting. However, brief might help pave the way for a third summit between the two men on deed, nuke. Theorizing the Korean peninsula, Michael Sullivan, NPR news. Soul nine eleven first responder Luis Alvarez has died after a long battle with cancer linked to the three months. He worked at the World Trade Center site, the retired New York City detective was fifty three Alvarez testified on Capitol Hill less than three weeks ago urging lawmakers to replenish the nine eleven victims compensation fund and is my legacy. See they do the right thing for all nine eleven responders. The house is due to vote on a Bill renewing the fund in July Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell says that chambers working to approve a Bill by August in California. One child has died. Three others were sickened after visiting the San Diego County, fair and contracting, E coli NPR's, Amy held reports. Health officials say the infections are not linked to food consumption, the children ages two to thirteen all had animal contact visiting the fares livestock area or petting zoo between June eighth and June fifteenth only the two year old was hospitalized. He died on June twenty-fourth, but Timothy Fennell the fares, general manager says San Diego County health officials only notified them about the coli infections on Friday, possibly, there could be more more than likely not because it's that window when those folks were here, though. Those livestock animals, have come and gone. The animal exhibits are now shut while the fair is set to remain open through July fourth. Health. Officials say handwashing is the best precaution to take after contact with animals. Amy held NPR news, the European Union has reached a major free trade deal. With South American economic bloc that includes Brazil Argentina, Paraguay and erg y it eliminates billions in customs duties, this is NPR. Italian authorities have arrested the captain of a migrant rescue ship after she docked on the island of Lampedusa without permission and rammed into a customs police motorboat. That was trying to stop her. The ship was carrying about forty African migrants rescued off the coast of Libya and had been in a standoff with police at sea for two weeks. A group of Americans with type one diabetes is in Canada, this weekend to buy life, saving medications. Dan, carpenter reports it comes as insulin prices in the US are skyrocketing. It's the second caravan in as many months. Organizer Quin Nystroem says, as many as forty five people are expected to make the trip to London Ontario, this weekend from several u s cities Nystrom says the crisis in the US has reached epic proportions and people are dying in desperate because they can't afford insulin at home. The average prices tripled between two thousand and two in two thousand and thirteen. Eighteen to about three hundred and forty dollars a vial. That's about ten times the cost in Canada. The reason for the lower price Canada, regulates drug prices through a review board aimed at preventing price gouging, in the US market, largely determines prices advocates say this needs to change for NPR news. I'm Dan carpenter. Chuck in Toronto, the head of family and child services in Georgia's says a newborn baby found wrapped up in a plastic bag in the woods early. This month is smiling, and thriving hundreds of people across the country and other parts of North America are offering to adopter. I'm Barbara Klein NPR news.

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288: A One-Sided Review of Tiger-Peyton Win in The Match 2; Settling on an NHL Playoff Format?

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

33:31 min | 8 months ago

288: A One-Sided Review of Tiger-Peyton Win in The Match 2; Settling on an NHL Playoff Format?

"The S WPA is brought to you in part by all Insurance Ontario. Hey it's Josh from all Insurance Ontario. I'm not driving much these days. So why not save a little money? If you have more than one vehicle send me a text. We can temporarily cut your premium in half a parking your second vehicle dropping not Theft and driving only one texts me at eight six zero six zero zero or visit all instead. Ca All Insurance Ontario your modern boutique broker the S. WPA podcast sports. And whatever right. Then we're off. Welcome to the show. It's a show about sports. And whatever it veers toward you each and every weekday. I'm Steve Worn and auto with me. Is Jim Jerome in Edmonton today? Some actual sports the match to tiger and Peyton versus Phil and Brady to begin a new podcast week. We bring on James Now. How goes at Jimmy House? The weekend well wasn't that golf exceptional. Yes unreal that thing. They're doing Oscar single second of if I was anchored anchor to my TV set. And I thought it was fantastic. What what part did you like best instead of curiosity the part where I missed it all of actually see. Here's the thing we finally have sports. We finally have some sports in this Kobe. Hell and you're the Gulf Guru. I didn't even buddy plan for anything else that gives you something. Okay let's get to go and saying no didn't watch second of it. I forgot it even happened. No I didn't have the TV on man. That's a drag. I was I was feeling tiles. Steve Okay what is you know this horror story? That started his painting. Now it's into renovations. Fuck I missed the whole thing I did. I had no idea it was on. It was pretty good. I thought it was good. I was like Because we didn't you didn't have much good to say last weekend. But the the dust and Ricky Fowler Matthew Matthew Wealth and who is the other guy again of course roy. You didn't have a lot of good things to say about that. And I was expecting kind of seeing what the NFL factor added a little dimension. I thought that Brady and manning they did some good chirps going. They really loaded up with golf. Commentators like Justin. Thomas is out there doing some commentary. Charles Barkley of all people was. They're doing commentary. And you know one of my favorite parts was how how savage it was the commentary at one point Charles Barkley says something along the lines of tigers bunker shot is basically the same as an NBA player doing a dunk. And then Thomas Chime. Dan Chuck I'd love to see your fat ass. Dunk a basketball right now. Though there we go and Charles Charles got going on the other side making him feel totally guilty By saying you know what? You're bullying me right now. You know you're not allowed to say that stuff air twenty two and it was. It was pretty good. And there's lots of thing. Yeah not bad at all. I thought overall the Gulf was okay. Lot of rain on the day but in the end it was It was tiger and Peyton manning that ended up winning the thing but the big winners were The Charities Coulter nineteen relief. Getting twenty million dollars out of this thing so that was eases. Wow that makes an exhibition worth it. I regardless of what you think of the format or the or the players well very good very good. You know I guess if I was maybe I'm not a starving or maybe I'm not as starving as much as I think. I am for sports because if I was I would have had that thing pinned pinned that it was on today. So this certain you'd be watching it for sure. Soups so bizarre. I don't know where that goes. Tv's lose track of things. Yeah so Tom Brady had an interesting weekend. I'll say that because well Charles Barkley's given him the gears a little bit but his game and I'm thinking Kate Charles Barkley cannot criticize anybody's golf game ever. We've all seen his horrific swing but he was still doing it making cracks here there and of course the players miked up and they've also got the ability. I think to hear what's going on with the announcers. Doesn't Tom Brady after getting shirt by Charles? Barkley hold out an approach shot for an eagle three on the seventh hole. Oh no and then he immediately starts going. Shut Your Yap Berkeley and that kind of thing braves though Brady totally into it. So they're laying the heat down. That's good now. That about the part Brady. That didn't go very well. Yesterday was the practice round. He's out there with the the other three looked the part. They all had the shorts on Peyton. Manning Look Great Tiger Phil they look great. And there's Tom Brady. He's got what looks like those white nurse's on he's got the high black socks and black knee brace. I'm thinking you're ready for the senior tour dude but the funny thing is that you like Steve. How do you like it? If you're the owner of Tampa and flip that on fuck frigging knee. Brace wearing a knee. Brace Jesus I can't be good but the but it wasn't the worst Gulf fashion thing that happened to Brady on the weekend so again. It's raining and So you've got Brady and Phil Phil on a par. Four blasts went onto the green against absolutely hammered over the trees and gets it to within about. I'd say twenty feet and Brady's up next in the alternate shot and he absolutely berries one for an eagle two which was very cool unfortunately walks up to pick up the ball out of the cup splits his pants and the camera range right on much shit. That happened in this thing believe I missed it. Jesus there's lots of good stuff under armor can't be very happy but another issue was Russell Wilson jumping. On course. He's got. He does a singer. He's going to donate two hundred thousand meals which was great so he came in you know and and starts kibitzing with the announcers and the players. He's at home on on video. But Audi is one of the major sponsors and Russell Wilson is decked out completely in mercedes-benz gear. And so that wasn't going over very well I wouldn't think with the folks at out. They say that that was a three hundred eleven thousand dollar piece of Advertising mercedes-benz no yes. Oh yeah all I could I'm trying I'm trying to think I'm pausing because I'm trying to think of well. I always told you the story about Gordon Wilson. Coming on when I told him I could eat a bucket of chicken. I could just eat the skin and he said Yeah. That's nice if you want to have a heart attack and and it was Kentucky Fried Chicken and they were a sponsor of the exact segment was about to do like. He was about to go into read. Sports Update Yeah Anyway actually. I think you've got one fairly recently with a reference to an insurance company. Not a not a said endorsement but a long conversation about it and we of course are all about all insurance on jury. Oh yeah you're modern boutique broker. Well I did it once. I'll tell you what I did and I you know I gotTa Stop. I gotTA stop seeing. Steve told this story before. When I had my my kitchen renovated in Ottawa and the guy kind of the there was kind of a Shitty job that they did or I was waiting for one mark cabinet to come in like a like a little broom closet or something that goes beside your fridge utility clauses them anyway I snapped on them eventually. Kept calling them then. I snapped on them and then I went into work on Monday. And the sales guy came running out me going good one. They just signed a advertising. I had no idea that we're a client of the station. Had the same. The same kind of thing happened. You know that there's that big indoor sports facility at the corner of Green Bank and Hunt Club in Ottawa. Right and it's It's just a big dome right and its Beige in color. And I wasn't used to it being there. I drove by it every day. And all of a sudden it was there and has like I was Joe loves doing the traffic. There was an accident there and it says right by that big giant slug. That's been installed Green Bank and Hunt Club. And he wasn't our sales staff working a major deal with the owners of that. Particular Sports Facility. They were not happy with me. Nice I love. That shit happens. Yeah sure there's many more if I start to think about it but Hey we'll have to watch the rewind was on the Gulf channels that WHO presented it. I might have been watching it on the computer so I'm not entirely sure off the top of my head. I'll look for the rewind and watching Suddenly drew brees and Sergio Garcia. Now WanNa play the winners. I'll Kinda Kinda is kinda where we're Kinda but anyway stop it. I've got nothing to add to this conversation is I will add something offensive. Killing you'd get. I got some golf in on the weekend. I wanted to realize how terrible I am. As far as fitness right now just I walked course after three months of being mainly host bound much physically and that was a long haul and it was a reminder. Why gophers you're in such great shape. Now what an advantage that is to the Craig Stadler's John Daly's of the world do you. I forget your game like I know he can get it around there a little bit do. I'm not being facetious here. Do you break one hundred. I forget yeah I break one hundred. Okay I'm really easily muddle through. Yeah I'm muddling around anywhere from mid eighties low nineties. That's okay sweet spot so you got lots of game. You got a lot enough to keep you interested in the last time I was. I think last time I played with you is with Kevin Pigeon of formerly of Tommy and faith fame and all I think I had and then you started putting XS on your on your card classic move. Oh there we go. I've had enough. I was knocking the chessboard. Over did hold on. It's a good way to put it. Whoops whoops well. That's good you got you got lots of game. What about this? What stevie? What about this three on three hockey thing? How serious is we brought it up last week? What's I haven't looked anything into it anymore into it but I've I've read some social media stuff a lot especially in your twitter where there's been lots of comments. I think definitely serious We've got six famous. Ted just jumped on eighteen league that have jumped on to be head coaches so I don't think they're going to lend their names to something. That is totally fly by night. Like e carbon. Oh just went in the hockey hall of Fame Grant. Fuhr also got Joe Mullen Larry Murphy Bryan Trottier like that. That lends a lot of credibility at least to me and just the concept itself. I really feel like an you and I've talked about this. We both love the three on three hockey. I mean I just you watch game a good sixty minute. Hockey game is still tied. And you're thinking to yourself okay. That was a good game and then they watch the three on three and you're almost breathless by comparison. What you thought was a great sixty minutes. It by comparison suck to the excitement level of the back and forth of three on three. But what I'm more curious about is. How is it going to work? Our the game's going to work like I read. Something Guy said. Well they're all going to go to the same place on the same weekend and play games her or it's going to be over nine different weekends and all the tour stops like so they have. They're going to nine tour stops in nine cities and it starts next summer. Twenty twenty one. So it's not like a standard league it's happening starts in June of twenty twenty one and so each team's going to have a six gators and one goalie and a coach one coach so the manpower fees your your payroll not not nearly what it is in the in the NHL. So that's how it's GonNa work. It's GonNa be a lot of a lot of stuff happening in one particular city. I bet the I bet the interest will be higher than thought. I thought you're getting second rate talent. You know right so you're chasing a bad thing here but then I was thinking about it. I thought there's other leaks you know. There's there's other leagues Lesser Leaks. That people watch you know so I if it is second rate talent I'll I'll feel differently but I just feel like they have an opportunity to to do okay like I think they could get some. You know some really elite players that are either you know coming out of the game just You know really named guys who are nearing the end. Who maybe you're still fast skaters. They could still thrive in something like this and you could also get guys who You know just got overlooked in the NHL Draft. Some young players junior stars coming out. Maybe they don't know what the money's going to be like here but Right that that'll that would be able to better predict what they'll be able to attract if I knew exactly what their budgets were but Yeah I mean I I just think the nature of it suggests that it. It is something that that might work. I I think the biggest downfall I see at this moment in time right here right now is just playing hockey in the summer. We will just we just got through the Stanley Cup playoffs. And you're going to three ice hockey by that stage of the game. But maybe you'd get maybe you will you be able to get potential draft picks. Well Kid will insurance all that behind for kids to play in this thing you know are they. They've Touton draft picks all the time Stevie. Yeah I mean you if you're looking at a guy if they decide to forgo and just ignore the NHL and what they're trying to accomplish conceivably they. Could you know like Austin Matthews? Did your neck hit his final year. He went over and played pro hockey over in Europe. He didn't wasn't junior anymore he wasn't in the. Ncw ranks was playing pro hockey when he was drafted. So that's a possibility to or guys rather than you know. Play play one more year junior for example. Maybe I'll go make some money in this Three on three league. You draft me there. Yeah I might have some interest you know. I might have some interest in that so we'll have to see that's kind of cool. That's kind of cool. I always thought it's kind of cool that they're all going to the same city on the same weekend and that makes more sense to me because I just can't see Tuesday night hockey or whatever. They'RE GONNA call it or Wednesday evening Wednesday night hockey Wednesday night hockey and three ice or whatever Are you in August? Going to sit down and watch it but but you may watch this sort of tournament style events. That's instead of having to follow you know. Oh there's ten on the card this week that sprinkled out liberally through the through the week that might be a bit much but yeah the the the event style that they've got up their sleeve probably works a bit better of the NHL now and talk a little bit about this Twenty four team thing. They're going to go to it. Looks like it's a done deal if they if in fact they do return to action. Looks like it's going to be a twenty four team playoff format to determine the winner of the Stanley. Cup this year because the NHLPA has Will they obviously the sign off of whatever? The League had up its sleeve so the players union authorized. Yeah okay. That's that's okay. That's good with us. Twenty four teams is fine and so that means now they have to still get through all the safety issues and some other details still have to be negotiated But they're on their way to an agreement and that means the end of the season for the Ottawa senators on the bottom seven teams in the league and it means for teams like Chicago and Montreal. That we're just assuming they were playing out the string in these last ten or eleven games there suddenly in the playoffs. So are they finishing the season? Steve or are they going right to playoffs? They're going to go right to play offs. Oh they are that that's not one hundred percent but that that's what it looks like right now so I guess they came up with a number that Well you know that you're you're with fuck. They must not have ties. There must have kept looking at it. No we gotta tie there and we're not going to have any regular season game so so make it twenty two teams. Oh fuck another shy. Okay may twenty three yeah. I'm sure they arrive at twenty four. They're fortunate twenty four of good number to run a tournament and yes. There was a tie for twenty four. That would get that would get even more awkward and any Florida. I think is one of those teams. It's really close like a point out of twenty fourth and then another team or two but no matter what kind of format they came up with it was going to. Piss somebody off. Yeah I I'm watching. I'm watching for sure. Oh God yeah. Yeah absolutely absolutely. I'm watching your but it was twenty nine degrees here today. So it's like I'm starting to move into that I'm okay at the end of the day. I'm not going to lose a ton asleep if they decide to cancel the NHL season either a watch. Because it's what I do right. It's getting really late in the game now like it was on this date. We record this forty years ago today. The New York islanders began their dynasty winning their first Stanley Cup. On the Bobby NYSTROM goal. They'd be the Philadelphia flyers like that's how late we are in the season kind of thing like Stanley Cups. Were being one on this day in History. Sherp the end of me. How about this one? Stevie I don't know if you saw this over the weekend I think it's called Trinity Park in Toronto. And then some park in the ozarks. Where did did you see? The I saw the Toronto one. Like while Steve Steve. Help me out here help me out. What is going on? Okay you know my stand on this virus thing. Although I took a picture the other day I went over to see the the merchandising guy for Sustainable Shit and there was a guy there who is buying some stuff. Nice Guy and you know bit a bit of a fan. He's like are you fucking right here. I am in the check me out. Oh Yeah what a day for you. And then and then of course I took a picture taken and I said for sure you know and I took a picture standing beside the guy and then I got ripped about social distancing and I said Geez guy there right right right because I've I've been pretty cautious but I'm starting to drop my guard a little bit. Your arm starting. I'm out of the house more than I used to be. And I'm yesterday. I was driving around and go. Why are you doing this? Why wh what's this all about your on. Just I'm falling into the same same thing. Everyone else's for for no other reason than they feel like it. You know that that governments said we're going to phase this stuff back in and I still don't understand it still don't understand it but I think there's little prevailing attitude that's really creeping into the public consciousness and that is come on screw this. We can't do this forever right. And and I founded further by fact that is absolutely beautiful outside now And Yeah that Trinity. Bellwood is one of the most popular parks in Toronto. Like the number of people in there like it looked like a like a nightclub crowded nightclub like everybody just jammed in there. There's zero thought of social distancing and it's just I it really is I'm I got I got to say I'm moving into a place where I'm I'm starting to get torn because I do. I'm starting to go go. We can't do this like what. What if what? If this is still in place five years from now we still going to be doing this. Like at some point. We have to. We have to do something but I'm not there yet and I'm certainly in the mold. These people were in like I was with three guys golfing at Metcalf Golf Club and we didn't get anywhere near each other and so we kind of I kind of moved into that mode of get out there. But I wasn't irresponsible like they were at that Toronto Park my God or look at the Ozark thing look down. Oh it's crazy it's crazy. It looks like the Toronto Park for sure there. Swimming and jumping around and it's jam packed absolutely jam packed so anyway. I'm just like. Is this a joke? This is someone laughing at the. You know. Saying I'm just kidding. Everyone's social distancing. Yeah like No. They're not giving each other piggyback rides and yeah. I don't know where this thing is going like. You know this might be commonplace a month from now too much. Now that we're seeing this everywhere we all. Just throw our hands up and say fine fine smooth on with our lives but at this moment in time it really feels like everybody in that picture that. I'm seeing this Trinity Bell Woods Park. Everyone in this picture is saying F. The safety of your grandparents F- safety of Buddy who's asthmatic or whatever like it just seemed like a really selfish act to do what they did. How are they going to Howard? They absolutely Steve. Absolutely I agree. You know where I'm going to say I'm fine. I kept six feet bub-bubba and and yet they don't consider okay. I'm going to go do this. I'm going GONNA go to a hockey game or or I'M GONNA go down to Trinity Park or I'm going to go down to the lake or wherever all these things where if you look it up you'll see just like insane That people are doing it at this time and and everyone says everyone has their choice k. Everyone's got their individual choice they do and that's true that's true but a little different here is if your family. I think we'd again. We've spoken about this but if your family you Linda your son Michael. Your daughter. Who's says no? We don't want you going golfing. We don't want you taking that risk so you have to consider those people right so it's not just your choice anymore to do this stuff. How were they possibly Steve with with all this talk of of the playoffs? How are they going to pull that? Off Steve. How are they going to pull that off when when this virus is still around to pull off a game steve with guys in the same dressing room? It's a contact. Sport can spits coming out of their mouth or there. I just don't understand how they think it's fine for us to be able to play hockey. I get it with golf a little bit right. Where where you're outside and you can. You can stay six feet away. You can pull it off for or other sports. I guess but how. How are they getting their head around that they're going to be able to do this? And and it's responsible right. Player gets covert Steve and and believe me. The most vulnerable people outside of the Health Issue. You know of over sixteen smokers and all that stuff for as maddox are athletes who've traveled a lot right. Who who've I saw a picture yesterday? Dry Seidl was in my hometown playing golf in. Sudbury? I don't know what the hell he was doing. It was on twitter. Leon dry settle was up there. I just I just don't see how you can do it how you can possibly do it with. I think it's going to be when it gets back to when the NHL for example gets back to work. I think that that day will be a very different head. Space that we're in You know I see what happened in Toronto. You show you talked about the ozark thing. That's telling me that the public consciousness is now moving in that direction. I think it will continue moving in that direction unless things get really heavy handed and you know we start pulling guns on people because they're too close together and things like that and heavy fines. I know there are really really heavy. Fines like like tens of thousands of dollars that exists as a possibility. I don't know that those have been given out like there's some serious finds out there. If you violate this whole social distancing thing but I think that by the time that they do open up I think it'll be to some degree. A case of officials rulemakers kind of throwing their hands up like okay fine. Everybody's apparently wants to go outside. No matter what so right now. The Americans have opened up their border to foreign pro athletes to kind of further. This this kind of movement were in right now It was the Secretary of Homeland Security Chad. Wolf who signed an order allowing the measure on Friday talking about sports as though it's like essential services right. Sporting events provide much-needed economic benefits equally important. They provide the community pride and national unity. Today Americans need their sports. It's time to reopen the economy. And it's time we get our pro athletes back to work. I don't think it is still don't I still don't think it is but it's time we get tie. Who who the fuck are you to tell me? It's time to do that. Whoever that wasn't some the director of Homeland Security in the United States Secretario? Sorry Secretary. Yeah I've been watching too much online so I missed a timeout. During it'd be go we'll be back to wrap up after these words. Hey It's Josh from Insurance Ontario. I'M GONNA guess you're not driving as much these days. So why not save a little money? If you more than one vehicle send me a text we can temporarily cut your cream in half of parking your second vehicle dropping not one to just fine theft and driving only one texts me at eight six zero six zero eight or visit all instead. Ca All Insurance Ontario your modern boutique broker and like everything else. The real estate market may look a little different right now. But it's still open for business and the Glenn Walton. Real estate team is in our opinion. The best option for buying or selling homes in the Ottawa area. Glenn provide the elite experienced guidance. You need to close the deal. He'll lend a hand working remotely with Crystal Clear Virtual walk-throughs so that everyone stays safe. The Glenn Walton Real Estate Team at Glen Walton Dot Com all right. Let's wrap it up with our web. Poll what did you think of today's charity? Golf event with Tiger Phil Brady and Peyton. Mr Mongoose sends along a video of crickets chirping. So clearly not to right into it I guess. Although he sent along as well hilarious it was worth it Jeff Gordon was okay. A bit better than expected. Good Banter not so great Gulf overall Jim Armstrong if that was a PGA tour event they wouldn't have played based on the conditions. The back and forth though was good am really gives you an idea of the personalities of these guys good overall event and raise tons of money for the cause Skit Three or four more be done Matte Hall. They're all champions to them cheaters. For different reasons one has great posture. And the other is Phil Daniel Murphy it was. It was peters. What's that mean? Cheaters would be tiger wes. Then Tom Brady with the deflategate got it. Got It okay so Peyton as the great posture. And then there's Phil Daniel Murphy writes. It was pretty good. One got started. Commentary was poor would have been nice to know the players driving distances at Cetera and Bob Weber. Clearly not into it. What are you talking about? So thanks to everybody for their feedback today. F- You know you know what they should do. Stevie I've always thought this so one of the most popular events in golf is the Ryder Cup Okay and I've always sort of you know it's the United States against Europe is the Ryder Cup. Massively followed a huge deal debatable. Whether you know a better event would be the. I love the fact that the United States has taken on the rest of the people but but eliminates Australian South African. I'll all that and there's some great players come from there so anyway that aside I was. That's what they should do and the President's Cup is the is the little baby brother to the Ryder Cup and that's international against America. So it's everyone by Europe. I think okay. So how how boys look at those two things how? `Bout we merge them okay. Let's see okay. How about they play the whole world. Anyway I always thought golf because it's long it's four days you know it's a lot to watch. It's a lot for outside of the majors right where people do. But it's still. It's still real time consuming. It's along long it so the Ryder Cup thing is so successful. I always thought you could have a League Steve. You could form teams of golfers just like this three on three thing. Okay and you would. You would have four golfers on each team. Okay and they would be they would be the the the the fighting Ames Iowa bulldogs and they come to your town. They come to your town or maybe four teams come to your town. And they played this round robin sort of Ryder Cup thing. You know on week on the weekend right all right and then you. I thought it'd be good. Just they do the manual manno. They do the alternate shot. They do all the same stuff they do at the Ryder Cup. Anyway I'm onto some. I should have brought this up earlier. Could've talked about it but it gives me some some fucking exhibition. Shit Steve. Let's make it for real. You know yeah you go to like an Olympic Games Golf Format. Maybe you know get more nations involved with it. Ride is side okay. the PGA tour is deep With many countries represented. But let's say only the countries that have minimum three players or four players to represent their nation. Well then that team qualifies for this event and then you have kind of a tournament country versus country thing. It doesn't always have to be a America versus others. Yeah anyway I always thought some something like that could be done you know and instead of the usual the Ryder Cup is great but borrow some from that and come up with this this sort of idea where he could have teams playing each other and go well. I wouldn't worry about it too much because after what's happened here today. I don't even think you'd like golf very much completely. Forgot about this event happening right now. It's gold I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed all right. Well we'll call it a day right there. We'll have a more complete longer show tomorrow but thanks for being with us and we'll talk to you tomorrow. Goodnight everybody. We'll see. I do words only read.

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 271: Featuring Pete Vandermeer

Spittin' Chiclets

2:06:53 hr | 8 months ago

Spittin' Chiclets Episode 271: Featuring Pete Vandermeer

"Hello everybody. Welcome to episode two hundred. Seventy one of spitting Chiklis present the by Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here in the Boston sports podcast family hope everybody else. They had a nice long weekend at least down here in the states. I know it was quite a few people watching the golf match on TV. We'll get into that and a little bit. Let's check in with our boys. I might you GRANOLA producer. You look like you're back in New York. I am back in New York. So here slinging submerged boys as as you guys know I am the Merch guy in the pod. So I just want to let everyone know we've dropped a ton of new March. Nbd merch new active. Wear awesome and some pink Whitney Gulf March. And maybe I can talk more about that I. Let's swing over the width dog. Let's go on golf man. Why am I clapping? Because we're back and as we're once a week right now it feels like we. We talk to each other for a year because for some reason that twice a week you know it just seems like every other day were chat but no Mikey we did drop some great merch. Nbd check it. Feels exactly like Lululemon? But it's our own stuff complain about being too expensive. Shut the fuck up don't buy I. Don't care the pink Whitney Merchandise Awesome. It came out so good. I think it's Great Golf clothing. Where you can look great out there? You can enjoy the drink while also rock on the shirt so I appreciate. Everyone put together what they did. Especially you Mike you for merch off. Let me tell you the original clap that I started as introduced me. Ra's because hockey's back boys we don't know when we don't know how the pandemic cuff will roll on and we will see NHL Front of no fans ripping it up trying to kill each other scorn goals celebrate and who knows if the be hugging each other but hockey's back and it excites me because now with you guys and I'm ready to talk if you can't tell absolutely get to that shortly we got to say hi to Biz as well. Paul Bears Nasty bloody face to baby positive Paul. Last week I think I got the momentum shifted in the right direction and all you you negative nancy out. There hockey is back hockey. Twitter was lit. Is that with the kids. Say Grenell socks too so for that to be lit means something else happened? Mike Milbury jumped on all my God. With shoe and let. Let's show out my friend. Go the woman who got me into my post career career. Catherine tap for one of the best tweets. I've seen saying Mike Cut who? Who gave you that haircut? No no no she wrote she wrote. Are you hold mets? You Up to the guy who cut your hair. Her line. I put belied was way better than what I say. But what a show that was. Yeah it was. It was unreal and if did see his haircut is a nightmare he faced down with them. Lobi Nice to have one of the most polarizing figures in hockey at least in recent memory on twitter very interested to see what type of antics he gets up to but on a serious note. There's a lot to to break down. As far as what phase two presented from the NHL standpoint there was a little bit of negativity surrounding it as there always is but the fact that they've been able to at least get it to this point. Their efforts should be applauded and I mentioned it last episode. Of course that's a within the fact that everybody will remain safe during this whole process but applaud the efforts of the NHL. Do you want to get right into that now? are are. Do you want to talk about some other stuff? I I suppose we could jump right in Millbury. No who looked like in that picture Leonard. Nimoy do played spock in Star Trek. He looked just like him. You don't want the original spark. Let me look. How do you spell spock that you make you take? This is an insult to say the star Trek. The old school on that was on television. There was nothing more boring. Just couldn't get into it. No we agree. I'm not attract. I'm style I'm not a trekkie or trekker or whatever those nerds call themselves. I'd Never Star Trek Guy. You can bash star Trek. I want. I won't defend it. Good walk and it came up the leader and clinical communication solution. Just which definitely isn't millbury. But I go I go with what you said. I agree with the funny thing. Also was he said. I'm I'm here to defend myself against all the haters or I'm paraphrasing. Something like that like good luck. Good luck on twitter defending yourself with whatever. There is one hundred twenty characters because it doesn't work arguments on twitter as already said many times there is no winner. Only two fools. So we'll keep that in mind as millbury moves forward on the twitter sphere plus spot never traded captain. Kirk for a couple of triples either. That's Patrick humanoid pumps yeah okay Biz. We'll jump right into it First Monday the NHL did say that they're going to be moving into phase two in June. Which is the step after self quarantine? It means Teams can open. Training facilities players can gathering group of six or fewer With the okay from local health officials. At strictly voluntary. It's on and off ice workouts and then on Tuesday commissioner Gary Bettman. What we had already known that there's GonNa be a twenty four team I guess you gotTa play into the playoffs. It's a plan that the Union agreed to twenty nine to to They don't know when formal training camps are GONNA start. It's not gonNA be at least until the second half of July They also announced the regular season is officially done. So the postseason season awards official there Pasta ovechkin going to split the regime trophy for most goals with forty eight. Each to ask Yariel Halack GonNA SPLIT THE JENNINGS TROPHY. Fewest goals allowed. The bruins will win that presidents trophy and we have the first German to ever win the Rostro Fiat Pal Leon. Dry Side of what? The hundred and I believe one hundred ten points yet. Thirteen more than his teammate. Ghana mcdavid So three of the last four years oil has one that Ovechkin is ninth time leading the league in goals extending his own record. That's four times more than Wayne. Gretzky did it Also a couple of interesting quotes from Batman. He reiterates the stock for next season. It could start as late as December if not January They're they're really not given the two shits about push next season back. Another couple of quotes Batman. There's no magic to start in October. If it has the slide more than the let it slide. I think this league is committed to Having playoffs in Jiu July and August going forward Anyways we got the match that should happen. Let's go to you with your take. I know that everything is officially official. As mentioned there's going to be haters said that the winner this year. Maybe we'll have a little bit of an ashtray and only get the top little Bowl Stanley Cup. I've made it clear but still I love the fact that the NHL gets out and is the first league is the per while maybe not the first. There's soccer in Europe things like that but the NHL has made it clear they're gonNA play and the NBA. We haven't really heard from. I'd be surprised if they don't you hear. Walt Disneyworld being talked about is maybe their hub in Orlando. But baseball's got their issues totally different animal with the fact. None of the season played but hockey. It did a great job of listen. Let's get out there. Let's give fans something to look forward to and let's make sure that there's GonNa be a winner this year now. There are so many questions that we can go over. Actually I think a good. Play Rep Devon Duke. Nick one of my buddies did a good job in explaining not what players are worried about. But maybe the things that may not work in terms of this deal and what they're talking about but still you could talk about teams getting screwed over and you talk about the Carolina hurricanes and the Tampa Bay lightning being the only two teams in twenty nine to to vote voting in favor of not doing this. I think they were the ones who said No. I don't want to do this. I don't think it's fair but that shows I mean what is that twenty nine out of thirty one. I'M GONNA go out on a limb and say that's ninety six percent check my math. Please guys on teams agreeing all right. This is fair. Let's get it going. This is a crazy time. Nothing like this has ever ever happened. And we're GONNA try to figure out a way to make it somewhat fair. I think if you take the top. Twelve based on points percentage in each conference. That's as close and as well as you're going to do this. Yeah some teams are going to get screwed but look Montreal's in this thing you kidding me. The coyotes wartime shot here. And let me remind you refer people wondering why did Carolina vote against because they have to play the Rangers who smack smack them in the mouth four times this year foreign against the hurricane? So I love it. I think we have stuff to talk about. We have a plan moving forward granted. It's in it's in Pencil. Not Penn but still. It's time to at least discuss the gay being played and maybe there are. Some players aren't happy but I'm sure a lot of guys are ready to get going while that was pretty good off the top. I'm GONNA off the top of my head to. I'm going to hop right into the hurricane situation. Of course I'm okay with them voting. The way they did they end up getting bent over given the rules in place but their comments were. We voted no. But if it doesn't go in our favour we roll on. It's not an excuse in brindamour fashion. Okay so I think everyone can are. You can agree to this. That's a fair assessment. They should have voted no because it was bending over. But they're saying let's move on. Okay so that's out of the way. Dry simul congratulations We're going to put the Cologne on hold. Because he's got bigger fish to fry once he releases the restraining order. We're going to get that thing going. You mentioned Ovechkin. This guy's still a freak of nature. We also have to mention. He has wife gave birth to their second child. So it's been a pretty busy week for him. Getting Rocket Rashard trophy and a new kid named Ilia and I'm curious to know if it has anything to do with Kovalchuk and maybe just kinda very close friends. They're very close friends. So maybe a little respect to his his countrymen the islanders that would be back to back years that they share that goal tending average title correct. Doug Jennings the Brown you mean or the Bruins went last on the roads at this year. All not sure okay. Well then I'm fucking idiot. We can move on from that topic. I had a question mark here since league. Awards are coming out KHUDA. We got for rookie of the year. I mean this is the city of Vancouver made. Burn down again if Quinn Hughes does it not least get consideration for this thing. Yeah I mean. He's one of the third rookie till Li Li defenseman score on the other. Two Bob. Your and I think Brian Leetch so you know you know those names and numbers. They jump out at you. I know people in Colorado are GONNA make the same case for kill Macabre but Yeah I think you've gotTa Lean Gwyn Hughes here and we got to give a nod. Swab Buddy Elvis who's had an unreal year. Come out of nowhere literally. Nowhere to save the Columbus season But but it's GonNa be tough to beat when used you call the right thing and then you start thinking about teams who all maybe guys hope for the year. He's done well. Looks like the Pittsburgh Penguins of Jake. Gansel back right and you start thinking now. Granted I will mention an same breath is that it looks like Nick. Ustad no matter what is going to be done for the year which sucks. You had a little bit of a setback in his recovery from injury. It's still it just. This whole dynamic is so interesting and I think back to when we talked to caloric doc talk show. Talk Talk. I got a shirt. I know that they'll be people who are out there dog and like the width dog no pun intended but when these guys get going they will be full bore and it will feel exactly like a Stanley Cup to them. Because when you're on the is even if there's no fans I mean it's it's there is no what do you call it when guys are good friends before the Game Thomas Sex there is no tummy sticks once this all begins because yeah it'll be way different and the first two games will feel bizarre. But in the end guys will get used to it and they're gonNA figure out we're still competing for the Stanley Cup so I I'm just excited to see competition begin again. That's more my thing. And then the the issue in terms of like what teams will come back better from this. Who's been getting ready? Who hasn't really been doing anything who planned on. Never never play again until next year. I don't know but I think you'll be able to tell pretty soon. After seeing the first few games being played on. Who's struggling and WHO's may be ready to go and ARA. How'd you feel about this one? Of course there were some complaints about this even happening and one of the protocols they are taking every person has to be tested at night every single night. So they're upset that throughout this whole process is probably going to be around forty thousand tests that are going to need to be used in order to put this on given the fact that the NBA will do it. Another forty thousand and one of the concerns is that will drive up the market on what tests costs so some of the general public. Not too crazy about this. Of course. Of course it's it's like he can't keep everyone happy. The seems like they're doing a good job because if you don't test everyone every night then there's going to be complaints on the fact they're not taking safety very seriously so that was one of the issues next one. I would say. The biggest issue of everything is fairness in the draft. Now of course can't keep everyone happy and each scenario. I guess what's what's crazy is a team that ends up getting in the twenty four teams the last team If you look at the the diagram they will have a six percent chance to get that first overall pick and they also get the chance to play in to win a Stanley Cup. I think that bat should be way lower and there should be more of a percentage for teams who aren't in that to of course get the first overall pick of if all goes according to plan. We won't have to worry about it but it but just imagine this and people are going over the scenario Edmonton. If they lose out in the first bit there I believe they have a chance to get the first overall pick. If I'm wrong on that I definitely know that Pittsburgh. If they lost out to. Who'd you say they were going Montreal? It is if they lose too much. All they have a chance of getting that first overall pick. Could you imagine the uproar if the pens pull the rabbit out of their ass and live? Freddie frontiers play with crosby next year snapping tape cats already at forty is a nineteen year old so DEMOC draft so ultimately. Some people will get screwed on this scenario on the draft but I mean as far as getting the revenue back and making it open to twenty four teams and of course sneaking in the Blackhawks. There's another team has got a pretty fair shake at it. They got some studs and I would imagine that they kept a tight ship throughout the break. So definitely a lot of question marks here in a lot of issues to discuss. Ra of rambled on quite a bit here but Anything else that we didn't clean up while the draft lottery it's very convoluted. I could describe it to you and people are GonNa Fall Asleep within thirty seconds but you did bring up a couple of major points teams lose the plan round will still have a shot at the top pick But the format does ensure that none of the sixteen playoff teams can get a top three pick. Which was I. Think a big concern. You don't WanNa you know. Team run into the conference finals and still get three pick. Unless of course they own another team's picked like Ottawa. Looking good they're probably going to get to top five six here Also the other thing is the round robin. Now if I'm a top four team and I'm not saying this because I'm a Bruins fan you could take site for me the conference but these guys are basically playing a best of three or round robin for the last line. Change you know. I wonder about intensity there You know I know. They're trying to get in game shape and it's not the same as planning to play in thing but you are concerned with any intensity issues with these teams like I said that basically plant for last change because there's no real home home-ice with his crowds. No because I think that every person inside that locker room wants to win a Stanley Cup and I and I do truly believe that. But from an organizational standpoint you know maybe some people who aren't inside that locker room and of course people fans of the teams. Yeah I've seen going online online where people are like. I'd much rather lose in on that play in round and have potential at a top pick but it goes back to that Elliott interview. I don't think people understand the drop off after you get out of the top two picks and the fact that you have a chance to go for it and win it given that the the playing field is pretty much even at this point especially if your team that didn't fare too well in the regular season up to that point was able to. Donnelly get healthy but but you know. Keep their heads on straight. I think everyone realistically has a fair shake at this. Who's in will look at. The Canadians weren't her and they weren't getting in the playoffs now. They've price and this is where fans players were always different terms of opinion. None of those players care will get the first overall pick. They don't give a shit but they're going to get into this series with Pittsburgh and they got carried price will all of a sudden stands in his head and then they go on this little. Run the argument you make. Ra and that people have brought up is valid in terms of like well. What do you point your? There's no home ice advantage. It's just it's the competition. It's what drives US athletes. Yam still an athlete. I was a former pro athlete now. I'm a Golfer but the competition is within all of these guys they will fight and they will care and they will have this drive to win when they're planning because that's exactly what's brought them to where they are. That's what I'm saying. The first few games are GONNA be weird after that you will see hatred on the ice. You will see intensity. Excuse me there will be no difference in terms of like the level of play because there aren't fans in the crowd because it's impossible once you get into competition to not be all in full bore ready to go. It's what drives these guys. I know repeating myself but in the end these guys don't care about what team what their team's going to pick in the draft law because all that could do is knock their job out. Oh Shit we drafted defenseman. I'm gone I don't care I don't care. What the draft. I hope we get the thirtieth picks so we have some scrub scrub. I just happened to be And and I don't WanNa also value the fact that like some of these guys are used to playing in front of sold out crowds were. I'm not saying their motivation. Won't be there but maybe their ability to get up for games. They're just like I can't do it. So those teams that maybe we're out of it and all of a sudden they're in it and they're playing a lot looser and like maybe even becomes a little bit silly and you mentioned Kerry price. What goes on on a twenty five game run. He's a world class player. That's why this throws a wrench in the whole mix. Is that if you get. You know three or four guys elevating a team that are world class level and they just go on this crazy run. Because of a given the circumstances it's anyone's game and I couldn't be more excited for so busy. You disagree with me insane. That guys will will be getting up. Not Maybe the first game or two. But you don't you can't see the best players like it doesn't matter if everyone's going. I'm embarrassing myself. Not playing well. It wouldn't shock me. They dead but what I'm saying is given the fact that that the Saint Louis. Blues were used to playing in front of eighteen thousand crazy fans in their arena. And then all of a sudden you go from sucking that energy out. I don't know how it's going to affect them. I don't know maybe maybe they're inside their locker room after having a bad start being like man like I just can't get into I don't know and it becomes a mental thing so it's something that we've never seen before so expect the unexpected face to let's go and I no you did. I know you did mention that. The Eastern Conference in West column will be in. They'll be one city for each. Can you list off the cities that are possibilities? You have those. I can do that for you right now. My friend Ten ten hub cities under consideration vagus Toronto Chicago Columbus Edmonton Dallas. La while it says Minnesota. But I assume that means Minneapolis Vancouver in Pittsburgh and they said that it's possible conference cities right. They're interesting well matters no fans but we'll they said that might be the bolts cities could potentially be in in the Western Conference on. What the Logistics Astle. Also boys the. Nhl IS COMING BACK. And so as you men's league baby make sure your return to the rank is fucking epic outfit. Your squad with fresh new Younis for men's league sweaters go check out their online jersey. Bill it's unreal. You can get super creative. Go Wild Get we had designed jerseys that alright? What you the all over the website? 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Stand up sixty nine and he has to pigeons and fucking Yang positions. So they WANNA sixteen all right. You know it's unreal listeners. At home we're all looking at each other. You guys know that today. I just happen. An obe is for the first time ever as a huge notepad that he must be reading. That's all of and still said wrong. Team on the next show Biz. I Love You. You Got your pad you already prepared. But that's why you're Biz my best buddy. I I the semi these phase two articles and I'm trying to comprehend what's going on. I make it one paragraph and then all of a sudden I'm like eating my buggers like staring at the ceiling and Mike. When did I take my eyes off that today? Today I said art. I'm sitting down at eleven o'clock record at noon. I said I'm going to punch research on what's gone down these past three days and all of a sudden it was eleven fifty and I was putting my putting Mac Shit. I never prepare. Okay well since you guys got all perverted with the rain city Bitch Prison Sixty Nine Jersey right now. The Swiss sex workers are actually going to allow to sexual positions in an effort to combat cove. One thousand nine hundred if you guys read this headline so I haven't dug too much into the article but What are what are the safest sex positions that they're going to open up the the sex shops okay? So they say it's like breathing in a coffin in someone's face you gotta think doggy styles one hundred. Your faces are not stay in the same way. It's similar to now. Some stairs are one way and the rest of the stairs or the other way. You can't go up and down the same stairwells who doggystyle takes care of that and then the other one reverse cowgirl coming act show with action same way so there you go with not the sex guy in the podcast. I actually wanted to bring up before when the kid. You'll you'll last longer chickens feed nats wonder you're not having sounds one one so listen last night on the Chiklis feed we were discussed on the EA Cup the Cup we were discussing. How when you start thinking about something like does your mind ever go back and say how the Hell did? I just started thinking about this. Well I do it all the time so I want to say where where my brain just brought me in that. Sex discussion was back to the testing every single day. In which we've seen. How testing goes right. They stick that like six inch thing up your nose to your brain which is double double the length of my hose. I go three inch ranch. So our guys going to have to get that thing up towards their brain every night. That's awful and that's how my brain works. I think. Yeah you're are a couple of different testing methods. I don't know if that's the one that the NFL is planning on using again to go back to your point about the DUBNA article. I got I got kind of dragged online yesterday that God i thought was very good because it said hey. There's still a long ways to go and wrote a blog like I didn't finish. It's like ten minutes before Batman's post went up so no hockey's back and then like ten minutes later. His press conference like hey everybody hockey's back but it was at the same info we already had known that it was going to be. You know the two thousand fourteen. Let's bring our medical expert on Grenell. What's what's up with these tasks. Is that the only way they can test by shoving this Q. Tip Up People's brains as the medical expert I would say yes all right because you can't tell me you're going to go to Patrick Kane on Tuesday night. Stick acute tip up his brain and then Wednesday night when he feels even better than Tuesday say. Hey I gotta stick this Q. Tip Up here your brain again. He's GonNa say no you don't. I'm showtime get the fuck up when I score goals when there are fans back in the building and get that q tip away from my brain thank you. I think I'd rather get a finger in my ass. That's pleasant wouldn't like that. What probably mentioned I guess we? We're going to be bringing on not right now but a little later Pete Vandermeer might not be a name that rings a bell at a lot. You guys but Busy Buddy us from the past. We brought him on very interesting discussion. I will be getting a little later. Just want to give you a heads up Larry. Land and the people from the H. L. Put me in touch with them when we were going through the relief efforts for them which we are still doing and still releasing those videos on Youtube and This guy was a hidden gem play with his brother. Jim Vandermeer Pete had a great career and La Plagne a few games in the NHL which we do get into all right the one aspect we haven't gotten to yet biz the gambling aspect of things A little bit of an update here foyer. A lot of places. If you had regular season point totals they're going to be refunded even if you're winning or losing because eighty two games weren't played not even eighty games. We'll played So they most places are going to refund your ticket if you paid upfront like Vegas obviously If you still have Stanley Cup or conference action. That should still be live again. You Always WanNa talk with the check with the shop where you put it in wherever it might be whatever OECD might have put it in every every place has the same general rules but you never know what some of these places on the Yes. No prop with a lot of teams Seizes they tweeted out that pay for twenty four teams instead of sixteen That to me tells me that probably didn't have a Shitload of action in the first place because hockey is only two percent of the house Taken Vegas so they probably said fuck it. It's more almost almost like a Pi. Pay Out instead of looking. Like shitheads pain for another eight teams And what else although the Rishaad trophy. That's another thing I would imagine where it was split. If you bet the Rashaad trophy for Pasternak twin. You should get paid out on that. Your shop should pay you out. However sometimes when trophies is split they do reduce the odds if there's more than one winner so that could be a possibility same with the trophy Again always check what you shop wherever you put it in the rules in Vegas at generally the same out there but you never know depending on what state you might have got it in that so Again gambling if you've got cup odds Conference final. Odds is still alive. So that's good hopefully Who I'm debating whether I went the season to come back because I lose another five grand with the fucking futures I get but the guy who has you you're a member half your futures. No no actually well the what though the whole at an eight more team helps me out. 'cause like Montreal. 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We're wishing you safety in good health and Ra. I think we should mention. I think we glanced over at the four teams from each conference. So eight total teams. That are in the playoff hunt. No matter what will be the bruins presidents trophies winners congrats the lightning the capitals the flyers in the East and we got the blues the avs the Golden Knights in the Dow Stars in the West. So those eight teams no matter what will be competing in after that. You're going to have to see what happens in the round robin but out of those teams off the top my head. I see one two maybe just to was it just to those teams. Did get new coaches halfway through with Dallas and Vegas so correct me if I'm wrong than any others but you'll see you'll see some nice action as this all gets going again but those eight cities be happy that you're in. I got to ask you about that. Mike Tyson bareknuckle scenario. Yeah for yes. So the spitting Chiklis Group Chat. I occasionally you know hop in there and say guys. Can we mention this so keith? Yandell wrote to our friend group chat. Hey would you fight? Apparently Tyson author twenty million to be Bare. Knuckle fights in one something like that. Would you guys fight them? Now I love to your listeners feedback but twenty million dollars whether it's before or after taxes whether it's tax free and you get in twenty sheets or you gotta get taxed on it. You getting eleven. I'm fighting Mike Tyson bare knuckles because that's so much money and I'm thinking in my mind. Well worst-case scenarios death but real worst case scenario maybe fractured skull broken orbital or two. I mean you recover from that so all four you guys you squaring off bare knuckles with Tyson for twenty sheets. No question about when we has its own so he says I think you're like my brother to call and he's I think it's pretty pretty certain you're going to die if you fight 'em bare knuckles now. I said if there's a reference there to break it up I disagree. Would you all agree? I mean I mean it would definitely have to depend on what the rules were and if there was an octagon involved or some. I mean this rule say this rule your in an octagon with bare knuckles and it's five minutes until somebody comes in that ring but Biz. That's the money is money. Okay then you would have to add the rule that he's incentivized to kill you because that has to become an object trying to kill you but I mean think about it you can run away from them in an octagon for what gap but if you get knocked out. Essentially you're dying because he's just gonNA keep attacking shit. I didn't think of that so I would say no. I'm not stepping in so ninety seconds before anyone comes off Mike Tyson Twenty Mil then you could just like face hugger fucking alien and just try to like so he can only hit you a page. It's how much how much it would suck if you if you sign the waiver pre pre fight that you could die Blah Blah Blah. But then you die and then you didn't realize in the waiver that your family doesn't even get the twenty million so we got nothing. Aber nothing. Yeah well. That's just having a bad lawyer and agent. That was my question I I would say. It's crazy how much he's tur- came around to where he was in shape like he does look like he can still fight punch with massive velocity. So my answer is no and fully was right and I'm sorry wrong. What else we gotTA talk about are? Actually we should probably give the other series matchups Walla. We're talking about instead of just mentioned the teams in the best of five in the east. It's going to be Pittsburgh versus Montreal. Carolina versus the ranges. The Island is versus the Panthers Toronto vs Columbus Lot of intriguing matchups in a West we have Edmonton versus Chicago speaking of intriguing. Nashville versus business clock. Iot's Vancouver Verses Minnesota in Calgary versus the Winnipeg jets so you know if we Ideally get to these points man. I'm excited for these matchups. You guys just mentioned the Dallas Stars I'm not sure if you caught the piece that L. Run wrote on Jim Montgomery. He also did an interview with him. It was honesty nice. They had jim. He's doing better He's been sober since he he got fired. He's very committed to the regimen. He's on You know he said his quote. I think I deserve to be let go and I don't think I deserve to earn money for my actions asking players to do the right thing. But I wasn't He sounds like a guy who really knows Lia. He had been fucking up and rock bottom needed to happen. He says he still loves JIM NILL. He's very thankful thankful to the stars. And you know just on a human level. My mother works in the recovery community. And I know it's not easy to get up. You know in front of the audience like that and talk about those issues especially with is still relatively fresh. Oh you know he hurt himself and you heard his family by Jim. Montgomery certainly deserves to coach again somewhere. I don't know if he's going to have to do it. And assistant stint somewhere or perhaps back to college but I don't think his behavior was anything he should be behind the NHL Bench in the future and again he he looks good. He sounds good It was nice to hear him he. He seemed like a guy who's genuine genuinely remorseful for what he did. And he's really made the The the things. He's done done things he's had to do to make life better Did you have anything on that? What very well said I think sensing from what people go through and Riyadh that taking responsibility for what he did is one of the things which he clearly has done and also it does take a lot of balls to stand up and admit that you really messed up and also go out and say. I didn't I don't deserve to repaid. I deserve to be fired. And how am I supposed to lead these young men and tell them to do things? When I'm not living a life I should have been living so congrats to him on on probably for sure feeling better doing better and like I said in our chat together earlier before this he deserves a second chance one hundred percent because who doesn't and he realized he messed up and he's on the way to recovering an and getting back to where he was before which was which was a hell of a coach. Don't forget how good Dallas was doing and how they really started rolling when that all went down so happy for him to see that he's on the right path I couldn't agree more. It's it's the accountability and the fact that he's willing to come out publicly with it. That's eventually going to help a lot of people so in this scenario obviously what was going on beforehand. wasn't constructive to his life and he's he's he's done a one eighty man and I don't. I don't think we know what it's like to to have that type of an addiction man so for him to come out and talk about it and be open psych tip of the cap so I wish him well. I hope he gets another shake at it. Absolutely I boys. What do you think she send it over to me and demand now what? Yeah all her time. Beauty Pete Vandermeer. Check it out now. Our next guest plied his pugilist trade for fifteen professional seasons played over six hundred games in the a Gel accumulated nearly twenty eight hundred penalty minutes while show in his overall career. He broke the three hundred penalty minute barrier six times in the four hundred penalty. Mock mark at the four hundred penalty minute mark once with four hundred fifty seven penalty minutes and fifty eight East Coast Games that same season. He added thirty one goals to become the only member in East Coast Hockey League. History of the thirty four hundred club and of course. He made it to the show after thirty two years. Old for a couple of games with the Phoenix coyotes. He's currently in a senior league in as a firewood supplier in central Alberta. It's a pleasure to welcome to the spitting chip with podcast. Pete Band to be here. Thanks thanks for joining us. So do you know rick from red deer? No I was GONNA ask you. Who the fuck is this guy? He's just I'm gonNA describe him as is just a a die hard calgary flames slash Edmonton oilers fan. Make your pick. Who LOVES TO JUST PICK A soft bigger defensemen to torture and scream at? His kids are in the room and he also lives in dies with wins and losses from his club. So I've seen the passion up there and I. I assume you still have the passion when you watch games like everybody. Here's happen. How great like everybody's an oil founder? Their flames fan. It's been that way since both teams game league but there are some real fucking nut jobs up here that go way overboard so busy myself. Both had the chance play with your younger brother. Jim defensemen hell of a player and toughish Shit. So I'm excited to interview. 'cause I got the chance to play against you briefly in that lockout years in the always hungry league when it was the complete iron league so I KINDA WANNA go back to the beginning. Though you are the oldest of six boys correct. Not Straight and all six. You ended up playing in at some form of professional league or at least junior. What am I missing? They're we all played. Parolee all play junior. Lake Melon. Ted Bill played coast a little bit and essentially Ted just played in the Central League but all their after this East Coast League American League and neither one of us all please ten years in the show. It's unbelievable I you chirpin. Here's the worst all younger. Oh all everybody since. We were little kids like he was the big Milk Nance gator eighty so much bigger and all the rest of us and two brothers between me and him Joe and and they just made his life living L. growing up and and work though toughen them off. You just got done last year. Dandy Bill and Ted Jokes did they. Did they get in fights over over the as on the call a airborne at that time on those stupid movies came out? Oh my parents must have thought of his fucking money. Because they're like they're nine and eleven years younger than I am like. I didn't really know those kids still kind of grew up in boxer to deal. They're serious. It's brought up but mom dad. He just gave up on the most to everybody. Everybody was tough in that household. A fuck in man's household. I look crazy number. Haystack die wit. How about this one year last year in red deer your top four scorers had at least one hundred forty four penalty minutes lester. League minutes so to Biz Mess. Not old minutes not minutes. All I don't think they did. Tens and those are all five right. I don't count in the Western. There's still these guys. You had eight guys on that team with over one hundred twenty five penalty minutes. You guys must have been beaten. The fucking wheels off teams was fun. We always we're okay but it didn't matter like our guys. We had guys scored forty five fifty wolves over fucking Nestle. It was just. Everybody goes up by three. You're down by three send out. The meat can get it on Biz. You WanNa talk about numbers and stats. I wanted to go backwards. I got a number for you actually at the question for you. Vandy three the numbers three. How many fingers were lost? When a roast beef was put on the table with you six animals reaching in and trying to grab all the food a household like. I can't imagine the brawls. You weren't late for a meal ever like there's nothing laugh. Great it was not the oldest one's of a series like five years between me and Jim and then the little ones came later. But yeah every night you went to bed. Somebody's leading somebody's crying and we had a great big house ailing nicer anything but the old man. We had a sawmill. So there's lots of would build this giant house and we've got these rooms there that just play hockey built. You got yelled and screamed at sent. Somebody is crying. Somebody got shot in the not stuck. In the ace lead Ari go to bed in the morning. Show Pete when you were a teenager was college ever on the table fire and the office that never get to that level like actually. I did send some tapes out Couple of schools. Like I'm from Bucknell where we're from Carolina Alberta. It's it's an hour west of red deer. So fucking rick and read you there you down the trail but You know there's all Western league junior a out here and actually there wasn't draft or anything when I was in band like the Western leaked the bathroom draft dealer eight so there's no drought back then and I just got a letter in the Mail Aka your property. The Tory cougars. Come to cap at this date and the way you go so I went out there as a sixteen year old. I wasn't big enough or strong enough so I got sent home and it It worked out that Red Deer got expansion team. We and all that the next winter and somehow managed to to wander in there have played midget AAA and red deer and had a really good year and just They picked me up. I got a letter in the mail like coming. Now you're part of this team and away you go Was SUTTER THERE. When they first stars an expansion and like I mean were they were they brutal off the hop because they really turn that ship around if it was no like The team was the franchise's Ordinance Wayne and Terry Simpson like Terry. Was you know with all over the place in the NHL coach and scope forever But his brother Wayne ran the team. And they brought a whole bunch of guys from Prince Albert that we're with their their teams at one centennial cups. And stuff like that and then to two. And yeah the around the team until after I was done like the franchise started ninety. Two Ninety three and I was done four years after that. I think two years. After that that that Brent bought the team Brent Sutter bought the team so so brother Jim played for them for two years. And then my littlest brother tat played for them for all four years. His junior at the gym was captain. There wasn't he. Yeah his Captain One Memorial Cup so that good army was on that team Biz no way. Yup Yup loyal all day long. Hey so when you I mean it was clear right away you going to. You're going to be a real prick to play against and you're gonNA fight and you didn't junior and then you get into the East Coast League the H. L. Right a junior but doesn't a heyday of big dudes fighting. I mean you're what are you six feet to fifteen. I mean you had you had to have been outside nine out of ten fights then no oh yeah for sure. And that's like even in junior. I didn't grow 'til eight like the first couple of years I was. You know five nine five ten and you know a buck seventy five and there was a lot of meat in the Western League back in the day. Holy Shit Lakes everywhere. There is monsters trying to kill like but rocky. Jeremy Thomson every night and medicine hat. Like I fight Jeremy to start with and usually do pretty good against him but if I did really good then rocky come and beat the Fuck Outta me like I was always fun and like Dale Peering Carrington. Down in How down every day men ride the bus? Oh the same as he is now just he was a fucking animal like he was decided he as well maybe not incited now he might have put on a couple of pounds or since he talked to him but he was a full grown man when he was sixteen like giant man. Like fuck you be running around the rink with and you could see his puritan tattoo like name Bart across his back and it was crazy like because we didn't have we warm up together it because it was just always turn into a sideshow but the big tough guys had come and hang out. And Watch during warmup. You know it. 'cause you're on for you're on the road you're on like forty five minutes before the game started and if your home your half an hour before but the guys that were watching you they come and look down the tunnel and try to see who's playing with who so you take slap shots down the Eliane. But he wouldn't take slapshot down the alley because he might fucking might hit him and he'll fucking kill you during the game see went. When did you realize you had a knack for fighting? Was it something like before you even played hockey? Did you like fighting to come from a coach down you had to. What would that Potty game committed? Not only that started just where we grew up and how we grew up like it. Fighting's always came easy like it was just always there and and actually when I was playing minor hockey and stuff as it's actually a skill guy was fucking scrawny glasses and scored lots of goals and It it wasn't really until I came into into the Western. We can read here fuck there. It was an expansion team kind of going back to your earlier question. There I think The expansion team like we got five. Twenty year olds that first year. So we're actually pretty good like the roster is kinda whole. There is no room for me to you know midget AAA by finished. Third Behind Jerome again. Len and his linemates Spencer that and in airplanes saint overdose playing in red deer. Like I was young. Two points a game. Kinda guy and midget while I'm at goal score but when I came to the Western League there is no room for the first three lines are full kid like the only way you can stick around as if you do something that somebody else's willing to do so well fighting easy. I can sit on. The bench can go out there and fight somebody's neck and fucking roll around in the ball for a little while and I got to stick around for another day and then I wound up stick around for four years and by the time I got done junior it was. That's kind of what is known for being being tough. But you know could play on the first line or second line or third line up and down the lineup and can give her. Yeah just it. Just all came natural from us being kids and fighting all the time at home and shit too so it was just a it was easy and I liked it. I was just GonNa ask you some guys relish it and you just hands my question you did like it so I would have an upside good like you know. Played played for a long time and play the so many guys that you know. Listen AS PODCASTS. And South talking to guys ever just get real nervous about certain guys or be shifting pants like weeks out in advance because they knew they had a few tuck guys. I loved it like it was fun. There was no Louis situation for me. 'cause you know playing Perot as you know six feet six one and two hundred pounds to twenty at the most and everybody was fighting way bigger than me so they fucking beat me up. Well no shit. They should their giants if I said hey you said Shit pants like it's a bad thing no like being a little nervous or whatever that gives you nothing but energy but I I loved like fuck. I couldn't lose John. Scott fuck well no shitty six eight. I fucking hang in there and do okay. Like I'm a fucking superhero. So it was fun. It was no no loose was good. Well I had been told by you or your brother. That people always said you too slow. You weren't gonNA be able to make it. And so then you turn pro and you turn your first year in the coast and you had a horrific leg injury or something right but but and this crazy sounds. It was a pretty funny part of it as you were getting wheeled off. Just tell tell everyone that one what I always back checking get you talk in Columbus Ohio in the coast welcome. I got tied up with a guy and we come across are blue coming back. Doors on our demand stepped up nailed guy carrying the puck and his shoulder. Hit me right in the knee and me and the guy was tied up with went the other way just and spun it around like a corkscrew and both bones sticking out of my leg blood squirting and I was dragging my leg across the ice trying to get to the bench like oh it was horrible right but anyways finally the trainer comes out there. Intercepts me like you rock and roll over. Like what are you doing? A rollover might flip flop over another law seconds later and lake. Is that like crazy? Fucking wrapped up on a stretcher. I you know like an idiot. Give the thumbs up on the way out. It's all good and their dressing room like it at a fucking corner in the hallway so these guys pick me up on a stretcher all down with my hand on my sides them they fucking dropped a stretch right on my face in the fucking laying in the hallway wedged in this corner. They can't get out like the dragging. My face shot to get me in a medical room. Like let fucking sideshow Ted. Some about Mary talking ridiculously good thing. There's no phones and video there because Puerto bathrooms that have got sued by somebody but they both of me back together and fuck well. They originally said like you're done like you'll never play again. Your legs going to be like an inch shorter and your other one even if we get together right but The guys that go the State University Medical Center there they they you know what did it at the time. It was kind of a new procedure where they put Titanium rod inside my my Tibia Shinbone and a bunch of bolts to keep her together and I remember I was going to go. They once they got to the hospital and south. They're going to send me home to kind of do lose some healing and comeback and Rehab but I told the trainer. Like I'm GonNa give you these crutches when I get back down to was like. Yeah whatever kid like buck and have a good life and but I came back and like Mont and handed him the crutches fuck. I'm good to go let's go. Let's get the single WANNA started skating right away in. I played in nine weeks after. My fucking leg was detached. Wow always been person with. The doctor came back with the crutches. And he's like what are you doing? You need to be used for like another three weeks. I'm like fuck. I've been skating for three weeks at home. What are you talking about all on smash overs? As soon as I got home like I just I started skating at at home later. Fucking my hometown rank and shit just on the side like on one way pretty much you know just kinda pushing it around and they said like at anytime. Your whole weight was my hallway. Was being held up by two screws went through my ankle and if one of those would have snapped would have been you know more than faulk but but they held it be being on it all that much like it just it made me. He'll quick like I was twenty years old so and then you know what better shape than I am. Now that's for damn sure but yeah killed up and went back and got time for play offs and had a little run. There is great. I'd agree year. That's A. That's a comeback story and another one. You spent eleven years in the minors and then you finally get to play in the NHL. Two Games with the Phoenix coyotes. And at any point before that had you thought you'd been close where you thought maybe you were going to be the next guy and you didn't get the bounce and you heard. Hey here listen I heard you might be the next guy up and just missed out. I want to hear your thoughts on that. Yeah there's there's a few times here One was during not asshole lock. Oh you're on played against you. They're they're wet like I had signed a deal with with Detroit and had a guarantee you're like I don't think I was making seventy in the minors and like ninety or one hundred like to guarantee right so I got a guarantee I'm GonNa Fuck fucking play great like they didn't call me up during that year. They'd have to stroke me check at the end of the year for twenty thirty ground. Which I know it's nothing you guys and how you talk but to me at the time it was that's huge but the biggest part of it was like they have to spend that money on me. They're not gonNA leave me in the minors. They're gonNA call me up for a couple of weeks. You're not awesome. This is GonNa be Great. Start the year like there's no. Nhl Training Camp. That's whatever but we had on our team they're like Nick Krahn and Yuri Hudler. Tommy Kopecky like all these guys that are like the next year like their desks in the play in the show readily and we start the year. And they're you know the negotiations are going back and forth and then finally why I remember when they when they said Gary Bettman came on the TV. We had a. We had a bar and our big apartment complex. We lived out which was really handy right on the main for a dance mar but anyways we were sitting there at lunch and they fucking see out seasons canceled. That's it like offer Fox aches and so we got bombed and went on a seven game losing streak gutter coach Fire Buck Down Coal Creek guy but anyways that was I was. I figured I gotTA check at the end of the shuttering out to shut it down the toilet fuck year. Who'D ALERT? He's not getting stuck in. Nhl Money you think he's fucking put out at. What was he like down there just more than fun too much fun? Like he was on late. Cute loves that guy but he was awesome. Like your soul fun and just finding lake is stupid. Check accent just how we operated like he had a gal there that was like his personal secretary like the did his laundry filled out his groceries. Fuck she just lived in the building and called her the Chug like she'd. I've never seen anybody in the world. Drink beer quicker than her. It was unbelievable like charter. Three hundred pound guys just always should get her going against Dana. We should have. Let's let's get sugar against sell the paper or during the Corinthian. So this girl blow. Your mind is unbelievable. Chocolate could be seventy five years old though like how old actually might be. I don't fuck you get a hold of charter. Could you get a hold of her? I'm sure I could in my not work. I'm sure you call hoods and back her up and I'll I'll make we'll we'll get this chug on because you imagine it's coming from an old folks home and all the background with like what they're crane. Trae what do you them? The means walk and walk. You know are not one but anyway. What the fuck were we just talking about? I wanted to bring off. Whole Board flipped cop. He played out to your brothers from pretty much a whole season in the coast right. That must've been pretty awesome That was unbelievable. That was that was great. That was in Richmond. Virginia and I'd actually spent a few games are a couple of years before from Columbus. They're whatever that's another fucking story but yeah for the whole year. Got To play with down and Joe. Fuck was that fun. We had one of the toughest teams ever and fucking good Hawks Team. I got to play with was Ryan craft like craft. He played in San Jose for Awhile and stuff like that. Just an awesome little Centerman from Minnesota and we Fargo that's he's from but anyways yeah we've got to play. They're all year together and we were sixteen seventeen and eighteen o numbers and Audi introduce it. Introduces THE START OF EVERY GAME? You know spotlights and like can you know crowded going not sort of deal when you start every game with three idiots and yeah. I think we had squarely on brother down. He had a couple of hundred minutes. I'd like four sixty or something stupid that you're but The very first game. We all got thrown in the fucking penalty box together home game and it was. We're not in the radar so down gets up and moves so that we're in the right order sixteen seventeen eighteen pounds just they lobbed they ate and up down there like him and I fought all the time and brother. He's a pussy but it is good player so like he he gets fucking tons and tons of points on the power play like like. I think I got twenty fuck in power. Play goals at your him. Just shooting them in my Shin Pads and off my neck front of that and it was just fun and that You're a scored my thirty goal. Like I got my gloves and stick like guys from the Hockey Hall of fame and grabbed them and took them like Fuck Guy. Like this is a coast. I need that stick. And he's a glove new one's GonNa pay me would have six compares gloves in his stall when he was playing with the penguins. This guy was like new pair of gloves to touch his fingers every fucking period but hey they snapped new gloves. That are broken in perfects. The best feeling that was go to see. I ran through gloves. I wanted to ask you a quick one here. So if you think we're going to glance over the fact that I mentioned your first two games and the fact that was what the coyotes you're crazy because if you listened to the podcast I would spend the rest of the tar time with you talking about them. What was that experience like? You get called up. Wayne Gretzky's your head coach. Talk about that entire experience. Yeah highlights of my life for sure right other than my my kids and you know getting married to my awesome. New Hot ways other than oddly. Got Some pretty much yet right. Yeah she's okay. I sent you those picks and you didn't even get anyone can let's get. Let's get into that right now quickly so I thought that was an accident that you sent me a picture of a smoking hot chick right so then. When you sent that again I was like Oh this must be as old lady so fucking back a look. Why was trying to be respectful? I thought I didn't want to open it up at first. I didn't know what you'd accidentally sent news. You know. No I wasn't trying to be cocky Dick or anything but I guess there's background right like I got a wedding pitcher with like all my kids and explain like what I'm doing. What the fuck him up to my kids like how old they are. What the Hell rocket him on life in your face and then. Oh yeah then I'll just slide this one in two so yeah it was a little bit but but you didn't even bucket figure it out. You're asking me today like I thought you're going to send me some shit to talk about I. I did like three days ago. Yes it was my fault. But let's get back to the coyotes. My bad sir. Sorry anyways yeah so fuck. We're on the road. This is this takes a little bit of set up here. I was planning on San Antonio and We had I don't after that lochoe ear like they brought in rules for only have so many veterans play on your teams in the American League in a veterans like somebody's played over two hundred fifty games right and you could have five or whatever the number was we had like three too many in San Antonio so I was sitting out like fucking pretty steady. Pretty regular healthy scratch. I'm like this is fucking garbage so anyways we're playing Hamilton which I played A few years before that played in Hamilton When I was on a one way Montreal what do you say they're Biz on your on a one way. Not Dale or anywhere. That good is what were you thinking. What was I supposed to say? I don't know you put me on the spot. You asshole what do you think anyway? I don't that's what I thought you're going to say that's right perfect. That's on thank you. I win anyway. Okay you gotTa Edit Button in there somewhere right Mike anyways. So I'm I'm in. We're playing on the road and Hamilton and I get called in after morning skating Like what the fuck like Greg. Ireland's our head coach Ray Edwards. Fucking beauty is a system of Calgary now and I played roller hockey with Buck and Ray Edwards. He's a great guy. He's assistant coaches. Like I look at it. I'm like what the fuck is going on like. There's no way I'm not playing tonight. This is complete like an ownership like thirty two. I know these guys really good. And it's like no. We got some great news for you. What you trade me to fuck in Hamilton they own. You're getting cold up. You're going to complain Phoenix. I'm like that is not even close to funny. That is complete fucking dog. Shit like no. We're so proud. We're so happy like or so pump. Were like show me the fucking paperwork? Not a fucking Chaz and if you've item fucking knocking both you know right now and so they pull the fucking transaction she oil way so I gotta fly like three fucking days. It takes me to get a playing forty in Phoenix against Nashville. So it takes me a day and a half to get across country. Finally get there my my ex wife. I had my daughter down. Echo is like like three months old they drove from San Antonio to Phoenix. Were sitting there waiting. Mom And dad talk and flew down from fucking caroline like everybody has their my buddy like Derek. Morris is good buddy of ours growing up like his whole family's down there visiting him shit from here and so lake. Everybody's sitting there waiting for me when I get there and then it practice for two days in a row with everybody gets to do. Did all the media like they're making a big deal paying was running around doing interviews forever But anyways we get all that done but I I had to think about it for like three or four days before it happened I was. I don't get nervous about fucking anything I was so fucking frazzle like Glenn through the whole range of emotions until it finally happened and then it was cool it was beyond cool in warm up like Like horrid chuck skating around. He's like pissed off. You need a bite need anything. You don't WanNA fight like I'm here for you. Whatever you want. Chris Mason the goal. He grew up with with Chris Eastern red you're here and we you know he I'm stretching on the fucking redline trying to fuck an top and be all fucking cool any pistol. Everybody's so proud yet and we're happy like whatever we can do the help. Yup fucking you score a couple on eating like shavers whipping around. He's like past. Oh great job. We're so happy for you. So cool man like only lasts only guys are just like it was so fucking cool and then I at first shift I got stuck in the fucking face and drew with four minute penalty and fuck it was. It was unbelievable and after that I just like seen so hard. I can talk to do this. I can keep up. I'm okay. I'm not an embarrassment out here. Like this is like an easy and you can fucking pass it guys. Pass the guys accidentally knocking down and give you thirty thousand dollars plumbing New Jersey. That's good damn my own. That's bullshit usually the other way around. Hey it was oh. I didn't know nicknames. Pesto I love that pistol so I took out of that. You actually had to be shown physical evidence of a transaction seen saying your call ups the NHL before you believe them buck and Rico's GonNa not Great Ireland under the Greasy stands and Fucking Hamilton. Little coaches alkyl. Fuck mad like I was so fucking mad. 'cause I heard before link heard. This story like grows. He got and they did that to them and fucking Syracuse or whatever like fake said. They called them up and didn't like you know or hurt other stories like that and like that like it's not funny. You're pissing me off. You're trying to make a better than I'm healthy scratch. And I'm like no real so yeah I needed the fucking paperwork other ones and was gonNA fuck and go right down to so. I talked to Keith. Theon he's telling me that when he was there when you were up I think that was the case and he mentioned you said no one is GonNa have had any more fun than I will have in this game tonight like. I'm going to enjoy this game with anyone in the history of the NHL was kind of how you remember it. Oh yeah like I was going to go. I was GONNA fight anybody that wanted to fight. I was going to in like what are they gonNA do? Suspend me for fucking being an idiot or kick me out of the building like big deal. I can work my whole life to get here. I wanted to play and and be good but I knew I had room to do what I wanted to do. And like fuck it was. It was unbelievable. They're like we're together in San Antonio about half of that year and then he was up and you know how guys like him. They're just made it so easily. So easy like he talked with such a jackass and stuff like that but got such a big hurt on them you know he made things easier like Molik Derek. Morris made things so easy. Shane Dole was fucking unbelievable. Joel I was the oldest guy on the fucking team. When I got called up. I was older. Jovan ski by like two months or something like that so I get called up from my first game ever. I'm the oldest guy contain it was just surreal rain like but it was was. We're going to have to get into Derek Morris that but I just how cool is that we talk about the Brotherhood and the code. Horny asking you and he saying. Y'All if you want one of one but now saying that you guys would have had a punch face match. You guys would like fucking men but the fact that he asked you but also he's like hey if you're a little nervous and you don't want it you WanNa play a little bit. I'm good with that too so I feel like the game might lack that now. That's that's nonexistent. That's you know we can talk for days about how the game is different but it was That that was really cool. How everybody on the other team actually like new or give a shit and just to say something to me or you know and then treated me great on the ice. Everybody was good and and even the wraps like fuck. I've been done. Nothing terrorizing make wraps. Life's fucking hell or life. But they're routes after the game came up to me and like both rats and the linesman they come up and say we don't know if he got one or not. We're fucking really fucking happy for you and we got a puck for you so you know it's not much but we know how this shit this means a lot. We're and we're proud of my holy fuck through choke me up to it was it was so such an unbelievable experience and and everybody made it better like nobody made it worse it was. I don't know I can't I can't say enough about how how neat that was. I got Wayne. Gretzky told me do a good job like say what you will be coach bad coach. Whatever I grew up watching lane and and the best player ever you know. And he's pat me on the back. Like Tesla great job. Well Fuck Yeah I can fucking quality way. I'm good I fucking lots of people. Tell me along the way you know. You're you're too slow. You're not big enough. You're not getting nothing you know always took down as fuel rate and just finally even Liz only for a couple of games. And every and say yeah. Fuck whatever I did so I can always say that too so speaking about the be the best ever you actually got health bonds for one of the best of did you not Gordie Howe. Scratch for Gordy tell tell I tell people that you are fucking old but we got It was in Detroit like the vipers internationally My second year Perot so this is like ninety six ninety seven somewhere in there maybe ninety but Yeah I'm sitting there pedaling away. In the bike in the middle of training camp door opens and Fucking Gordie. Howe walks in with what the fuck? That's Gordie Howe. He comes right over to me and says hi rail. What is yeah you can red deer guy like fuck I? Love Red deer told me a couple of stories about red deer and then he walks off like I just fucking have a stroke or something riding a bike. Like I'm pretty sure Gordy just came in here and talk to me like yeah. He's come and he's playing the blame game so he came and played Opening game is me and I think it was either Dan Kessler or or Scotty Walker on member. Who exactly but there's two of sports had to sit out healthy. Scratch the opening game of the year fucking Gordy played the first shift played. Like is there for like two minutes comes off. Sits on the bench watches the rest of the rest of the first period. Then he took a shit off and went home afterwards like. He's an old man but he's spoke. It was something else I got scratched for. Gory Rather Gab. That you'll always have. I WANNA go back to mention. You played with your brothers. I'm assuming you probably played against one or two of them at a time that you have a fight. Any brothers in any leagues. No you know what I never played against any one of them. I played with Jim and Jim and Philadelphia But like down Joe or mostly in the east coast leap. In by the time I played after I played with them that year I was in the American league the rest of the time and they came up of them. I think played a few games in the American League. But weren't weren't regulars and the American League were regulars coast and had great careers. Both of them at that level but we never played against each other and then the Jim never played against each other either. So there's good otherwise I would have fucking killed him. I got to. I got to ask about Derek Morris. You mentioned him as one of the guys who made you feel welcome. I mean did you know him growing up at all and like he must've been over the top because I've never met a guy who wants everyone around them to have an unbelievable experience so giving degree dude him and my brother. Joel played like Pantomine midget together like Here in silverlake and in red deer like midget AAA and shit like that. And then like I played against Eric when he was in When Regina in Western League and then actually is two brothers played with another two of my brothers to growing up right so the new mole forever. The family all that shit to come down there and training camp that year in August or whatever and like I stayed at Mojos and just made me feel awesome my my wife at the time she was like fucking eight months pregnant to me. You know totally looked after us and and and you know how he's one of the best fucking humans ever tells you everything right there. That story yeah looked totally. Look after US and like fuck. You're not San Hotel. You're staying here at our place. Same call up like no. You're staying here. You got the fucking East wing of this fucking place. Riach all the Nice House as long as you don't trip on his ranch luck and walking by Him Shit. He does a weapon. We haven't had a lot of rents talk on our podcast lately. I mean we're walking the fine line there but I'm sure Mo- appreciate the tire pump there. Not Jim Mackenzie doll. Let's not get carried away. I've seen a lot of Dick but I haven't seen Jim Mackenzie Dick so okay. Keyword for taking chain works weren't he doesn't talk no Dixon Lot. Because he's GonNa Rope on himself Kirk. Urban legends at this point haters going love this conversation. I want him. You know you mentioned I in our text that you started and finished in the coast. How much did the coast change in fourteen fifteen year difference from when you started so when you retired not for me to get fucking suspended for life out of it by the end overall? Either well not for life. I got a pretty good suspension like all like I coach all the kids and when they look they look up shit on youtube all the time and the first thing that comes up is like my last game and these coast where I lost my shit down in Vegas and chase to get around and kill them but it changes like everything else right. The whole game whole game changed and I everybody had to change along with it and I for a long time I changed lots and adopted and like I was never that jeter fastest start with but I found ways to stay in the game for a long long in my my skill set. Let me SORTA deal and it just finally got to a point where I couldn't change and adapt anymore and I got an older and slower and there's just no room for their old cranky guys that are own swearing at everybody's that everybody's coach and tough guy and skilled guy and the wraps and everything else that you're not allowed to puck spear guys in the face anymore. So I had to go home. You looked insane out there. When did you go to the full shaved head? You're like absolute menace to society skating around trying to kill people with the bald. The bald look fuck. That was early on like when I was playing in. Providence played for Pete Lobby let for a couple of years in in providence there at the Bruins and the old salad starting to get squeaked right off Ed Patches Mangy so shaver down and get worked like no. It doesn't work. It doesn't work for everybody rate like everybody's Pumpkins or she different but kind of worked for me and you shaved head through goatee on no teeth and fucking everybody like you're gonNA rip their face off like you scare. How three quarters a mop anyway so it helped then the year in grand rapids. You play with boot Lyn okay. So we've had this guy on twice and I think he's like walking on eggshells he doesn't want to go too far. This guy was a maniac in the minors. A fucking maniac man. Tell us about the sky. The miners because he won't come on and let it sling. I know like I've listened to. I think he get call him when he's fucking hammered or he's fucking fucked up or not or something because he's he doesn't come off. Lake him on your on your podcast like he was a blast like he scored goals. He's fought all the time he was a little bit of a pretender like he'd he'd site guys you could beat up. And then I played with them and live with them but like he's a good player and did lots of cool shit on the ice and drove everybody. Nuts that guy the tail that that guy drug down. It was unbelievable. He had trap line eight miles long. Every town everywhere we went to this guy was fought. Heroes Job Man. They had a cake for him when he was in Portland that they brought in the Bosphorus Flight. Five hundred notch. He was like twenty three years. Old other to this guy was a fucking. He would terrorize. Everytown go to Mick Jagger was going every minute I wasn't beautiful or anything like that either he didn't but he would talk to antibody abode anything like it was every day I come. I come home at lunch and be three on the coach. I'm like what is doing. Like how is this even possible like it was? It was every day all day like if he thought about hockey half as much as he did about chasing tail he fuck. He'd be a hall of Famer. Vince some residuals though. Oh look through powder. This got him in trouble. But I don't really give a shit because the guy's a legend that he should be talked about like he was he was such a caricature of the minors that dialed in any probably could have had a nice lengthy. Nhl Her yeah like he got some Games in Detroit and stuff like that too but like he he was a good player and he was he was tough and he was smart enough not to fight guys that he'd get it ask kick but he had other guys around him but you know not just chasing the barrage with but he made the room around lake. He was fine master and he fucking kept everybody loose and happy and you know. That's the goal line master. Let's talk about the fine master a little bit for people who are like. What's the fine master? The fine put some crazy music on it. Like I'm shooting fucking fire. And she had fire Bicester. Go ahead people down for money. You guys were talking this on one of your earlier. Podcast there but yeah you. It doesn't matter what Li like. I've played in relief. That there is and it just. You put zero on the end of the the fines Haley. You're tied looks like Shit okay. That's twenty officer your fucking late and it's hundred bucks. So in the five matches guys got run around and collect everything right and then he usually sits on kangaroo court. Is he the one of the prosecutors rate Internet? You're talking off very very. What's The craziest Kangaroo Court case you've ever seen who's fucking whose girlfriend let's going on? There's been a few of those aquifer. Pg claim there were but we. We talked to a couple of got. We're on a fucking skit. Around like a seven game skid fucking hell the world is ending right so we went down to the farmer and got a couple of chicken and we fucking stock them in the stalls. Like underneath the stalls. Air Like where you fucking hide your bag and shit and so in the morning fucking everybody just down at fucking share you. Whatever fucking chickens come fly no fucking shit. Everywhere buckle scare everybody trainer out a fucking heart attack. Anyways we fuck it and what we fucking get the quiet quiet and then it came to kangaroo court for this has got to come up because like bobby. Clark's GonNa Fuck Virus. All Paul Holmgren sparking mad like animal rights. People were involved in like fuck. It was supposed to be funny fucking anyways. But it was a big deal fucking. We're guilty and Mike sick link or fucking guilty and I don't know it was fucking funny at the time guest kind of had to be there. It was good. Oh my goodness. I don't think I don't think that counts as a had to be there pretty been funny to me. Here's Oh shit man I I want to ask you. Are you going back to Your Jersey? Where do you? Keep Your Jersey. Well if you had one or two from the two games in the NHL where do you keep him? I got him. I got that one and That big crazier play with down and Joel and East Coast. I got to go to an all star again so I've got both of them just on my on my wall down my basement like got that and I got a couple other you know pretty cool memorabilia things and then I got my Old Lady Fitness like in modeling trophy. Shit some that kind of stuff and then my kids metals and some trophies down downstairs in our in our living room downstairs and yeah I have it there it just. It's out in the closet at my my mom and dad's house for quite a while but yeah just on the wall. It's it's pretty cool go wandering by every once in a while. Oh Yeah I do that once upon a time absolutely now you had you know you got a few pitstops during your career. What was your favorite pitstop? That you played in Yeah I get asked that quite a bit actually because like I played enough towns but To places really stand out other than in Phoenix in the Sun Golfing and all that shit but but that same that you're in San Antonio but city was just awesome. Like weather's great. Great Golf people were really similar in taxes. They are here in Algebra. You know kind of Laibach you know. Show me which what you're all you know as long as you work hard you're fine and I really loved it down there. It was cool. Had One of my daughters born. They're always You know pretty special place to me because of that and the other places was Hershey. Pennsylvania there played For Washington have their team there say still are affiliated with with Washington or not but but her she awesome like Hillary. Like everybody's got a job worked with with her co and the chocolate factory where they work at the beginning versity hospital and everybody's got a job. The streets are fucking clean. Street lights are Hershey kisses. And you know we worked for the all the the buildings that twelve and it was full every night and we got sick team Brucie. Boudreau was coaching us. And we kick the shit out of everybody that year and it was just fun wherever. You're you're winning right. It's it's going to be a fun place but but the quality life and Shit. Those those two places were great. Well I think all your pitstops made you this entertaining and I will say minus the L. You can't spell pitstop with Oh pistol so it makes total sense that you're buzzing around these leagues fighting anyone doing anything. It takes them becoming. Everyone's favorite team mate. So it's like when you finally were out of the game was it was really hard for you. Did you know at the time all right? This is it. I can't get a job anywhere. I knew I was like I was fuck. I retired about three times. Fuck I'm still playing senior hockey portray sake. You've no nobody will fight. And he said I'll put her an fucking crazy. If you still playing senior scrapping tone IT DOWN BUDDY CHRIST UP. We know your top. You had a good run half a gum have enjoy it man. You take the edge off pink. Whitney get you massage. Your Pink Whitney pistol. Hey if you get one fucking penny off of every bottle that's boughten out bird your fucking mode at no wonder you can fly all over the world golf for Sake. You can't keep that shitting storms private. Joe There's always more me like that you know it's okay and I enjoy it like it'd be nice if the sun came out here. Be Drinking around the deck now but yeah. It's good but vending fucking hockey needed. It's Arnold Palmer. And they got it. That's like fucking rates. That's the Lord's juice the hockey gods baby. That's what we're doing is we're keeping it live. Fuck this let's fuck and go underground with the stories. Hey the only difference is Arnold Palmer used to rip his chest hair out of out of his chest and throw it up into the wind to see which way the wind was blowing and I would flamingo to get out of the way of a block. Shot hit my other ankle. So that's what we have Carmen Crystal and fucking good on you guys. Like that's cool as shit. You gotta turn this into something awesome. It's really neat to see her time. We're GONNA we're going to end up being being in your neck of the woods and then we can do a live show. You can come on stage for that. Then we really get it flowing talk. I love to get money. That'd be the easiest money ever made. I just hand. You might say. Let her let her read. Entertain these people for two hours man. We'll get we'll do two shows a day. Yeah you'll probably what do you? What's the cut their own? Good Buddy what. What did you say we should come up full? Which event like stampede or something dog? Listen I'm going to get these guys to stampede. Unfortunately I think it's going to be canceled this year. Because of what's going on but stampede is something that we have. Alberta is probably our most hardcore families. I put it on par with anyone I put. I've put them told Boston. It's like everybody like everybody. Here's all oriented guy from like seriously the housewives to like all the guys working in the L. Patch and fucking farmers and everybody's played hockey right as so like everybody's appeal to to a pretty wide range up here. I don't know if what that says about know what it would be. This is what it would be. Are you like Johnny Cash's version of going to prison and playing Oscar and do a live? Show one of the rigs that would be the comparison that like just get him riled dot man there up in the boonies doing their thing man like you. Don't bring the bring a show. You play one more one more before we let you go. You played in Providence for a bit. You play with Kaka Bates Shawn Bates. It did he did. He have if I wasn't long but any any wild stories from that character. That one eyed bastard fuse on. I'm on Ra. Oh we gotTA GET HIM ON WE'RE GONNA get bt on Blueshield like fuck on honestly. Our that was fucking long ago. Like that was in two thousand like fuck. It's twenty years ago like I still sixty in my head but I try reaching through memories and holy ship. That was a long time ago. Like the had like Joel. Perfect and fucking was birch. There Bobby Beers is playing with us like us at the end of his Ron and Eric Necklace. Perfect Landon Wilson. Yeah fucking bt one Jason. Krog fuck all these guys but yeah bt was just people actually talk like you fuckers. Talk until I fucking went there. And he talks. Oh my God we had. We had fun. We drank too much and bought too much. We had fun seven talking goal. You went through that yet to was there any particular story that you want to tell on the podcast because like Larry Land and reached out. Because we're helping out with the H. L. Player Relief Fund. That's kind of how this interview all got connected Agassi. We're trying to help those guys out. You know what some of those guys were making at that level but man you. You've been quite the treat all. Yeah and that's very giving there to like I was on on the executive there for all those years and shit like that and got to be good friends with him and they give me fuck they. Keep me awards. I think they just give me shit so I come down to Orlando and get drunk and tell stories every summer. But it's Dan horrifying the community service award for the Straits season. Two kids that one day he was hung over at Eager Elementary Larry Land talk in the city to give him a key the city and just to get them down there for like one more run at this. Yeah yeah that's what. They just canceled the shit for this year. So I guess they're planning for next year again. Abe Yeah you guys know like they do shed and whether you spent any time in the coaster not like you know guys aren't making a lot of a Lotta Dope and yeah it's fucking top not just guys but for the for the team like. I did three C. B. as in the American League in Huck margins they're non existent and it's even worse in the coast or like how many of these teams are going to be able to bounce back after this stuff. But the the more the Merrier for sure. But they're gonNA need help to just like just like everybody no doubt about Dallas Pete. Congratulations you're the first winner of the the treat or would you can come down to Orlando collect price personal. Thank you so much. And congratulations on great careers awesome. You got to play those. Nhl Games and we appreciate you. Come on so we'll see when we're in town at some point as always a big band. Joining chocolates today had a blast talking to him. Hopefully you guys were entertained by it as well. And we do WANNA to mention that. 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Twenty at checkout for twenty percent off your first order also follow them on Instagram at facebook twitter. I follow him on Instagram facebook and twitter at eat. Blakey's again B. O. K. E. Y. S. I. Guys early. I did mention the big watch over. The weekend was the match to in which Phil Mickelson and Tom Brady took on Tiger Woods and Payton men and so. We'll go to a golf expert for his. Take on this one. What yeah I believe. At one point there was over six million people watching it and I want to say that might have broke a record for most people ever watching a golf event on cable TV. I loved it. I mean I didn't really know what to expect. I figured after watching the mcelroy Dustin Johnson Verse Fowler Matt Wolf Competition At seminal. Yeah I've played there the week before those little boring guys carrying their own bags a little different. I knew this would be better. Just because of the peyton manning and Brady aspect but it it really kind of exceeded expectations. And I mean if you WanNa talk about the game of Golf and how insane the actual sport is Tom Brady in. How horrible was that guy? I don't know if people caught it. He was hitting dead shanks writing the hazard. He didn't know where to drop the ball at one point. And then what do you know? He hits the shot of the whole event. That happened to go eighteen holes when he dunks Birdie from about one hundred thirty yards out split his pants get getting the ball out of the Cup with his microphone in a console hanging from the back of his pants. Just it's like every person who's ever played golf no matter if you're one handicap or twenty handicap. You have a shot that brings you back. It makes you play the next day. It's like Oh my God that one shot. That's wouldn't has has the bug inside. I need to play again because that one shot was so good. I can do that again so you saw great great example. I with Brady Payton Manning. He's got some nice game. I just thought it was cool. In terms. Of getting the microphones on the guys. They had the cameras on the cart. So you could hear kind of what? They may be saying a little things driving in their cars by themselves. And then there was an example of Mikkelsen talking about how he's GonNa hit a chip shot and what was going to happen. The grain on the green and all the things that a lot of people don't know about and then he does it to perfection after describing what he was going to do so microphones on players in the future and the PGA tour. Especially when there's no fans at the events. Maybe that's a possibility. I think that'd be cool. And now you're not gonna hear guys like saying things that they that they don't want out there but in terms of is a golf nut you're going to hear about them describing to their caddy how they're gonNA play a shot what they're going to do. I think that's interesting. I think people enjoyed it and more than anything. You just see that. It's a hard game. It doesn't matter how good you are at other sports. Brady's the best of all time football manning's right up there and you saw moments when they both struggled especially twelve but I had a blast watching and I think with no live sports action. It went off real well and I thought it was overall a huge success including battling through a horrible horrible weather delay where it's rain in half the round. It was tough for some people to see Tom. Brady look normal and I don't think anyone was enjoying it more at the time especially early in that round than than Chuck Arceli was in his ear disturbing on and then sure shit he gets up there and hits. That's shot and then Tom Brady just absolutely giving it the chuck back which which that was kind of the highlight. I ended up seeing that all over social media. I didn't watch the whole event but it was obvious that people were craving sports and people got a lot of laughs and it created that social engagement engagement. So I I was a little primer for the for the NHL Reboot here. And also that Justin. Thomas is one of the top players in the world. He was walking around with a headset on and interviewing guys and they get one point he said Hi. I'd love to see your fat ass trying to dunk a basketball chuck to Barclay. Who's just so good at his job because they throw this basketball analyst on their. Who's just a straight up comedian? And he's making this golf broadcasts even better so. Tnt Rose even do golf crushing CBS. Their Shit Shit bag broadcasts of all the tournaments they show so I I loved it. I was blown away. I'm going to try to join medalist. How you would. Of course that is hoped sound. Tiger Woods is home track. Thank you yeah. That was the most Human Tom. Brady is look since his draft day. Photo fucking twenty somewhat years ago body shaming right. Now are Howdy I. It's impossible for me to body. Shame I'm the guy who gets body. Shame so nine. Oh buddy but it wasn't like you said how fucking Horny People Office Sports I. It was the most watched golf event and cable. Tv history now. That's obviously network. Tv ABC CBS NBC. Still impressive nonetheless I think people just want fucking sports and they want someone and they want sports and it's it's crazy that they called much sports means to society. We'll get too deep. You don't really think about a time you know you're gambling on it. You got die hard. Fans of teams of individual athletes in tennis and Golf Blah Blah Blah cetera etc. But man just sports matter for the overall vibe of the entire world sports matters you need you need competition you need to be able to watch things to get. You fired up to to give you a reason to get to seven o'clock. You put the kids to bed you crack. Open a pink Whitney and you watch Goddamn live sports fucking pandemic up here. We come I actually thought of this the other day tomorrow night down. I've been talking deep enough quite a bit lately because we're can't wait interview. We're both were both planning our comebacks to the game after this face to process gets a fully blown out of proportion but member when I told you guys a story about when he pulled up to starbucks or Tim Hortons with his brand new jeep. Sr Eight And left it. Running goes and get his coffee as he did before games so he calls me these leftover part of the story so one I think one of the guys at seeing it dry them onto the way of the rink. It went blowing by them. Eighth Auto is dion in. They're also at the time he had his. Gps set to the home settings so they were on a road trip and the people who stole the car. The whoever the perpetrator was they end up? Going to address to try to rob the place. 'cause he completely forgot that it was like you know dialed in there. But David Moss was actually at the house because he didn't go on the road trip because he was injured so he ended up coming like he entered. They ended up like coming to try to break in the House and David Moss. He was shit in his pants. So how crazy is that crazy? And then that's GonNa lead me into something else because David Moss. I've been told by numerous people including Eric Nystrom who I love. One of my favorite ex teammates. Us National Program. Two thousand. Two thousand one is one of the best guys going always told me David Moss. One of my best buddies. What a Guy Wall were. Is that lead us into that? Leads us into the fortieth anniversary I believe? Ra of the New York. Islanders would in their first of four straight Stanley cups in. You know what happened in that. First one Bob Nystrom Eric. Nice shrimps Father Eric. Nystrom WHO's great friend? Who David Moss? We just bring up talk about hockey being a small World Bob. Nystrom scored the overtime winner. In what would then be the first of four straight Stanley Cup. Sanders congrats them. Congratulate Bob Nation. Who by the way? I'm telling you right now. If he's five percent body fat. I'd be shocked. He's probably at three point. Seven percent the dude straight up rift. He's got to be over sixty years old and he's a savage. And so is his son. Eric and so as David Moss. So thank you for bringing that altogether yes. Dad's good. The game. Six overtime winner to brim the first copy said. But what's so? Impressive about that island squad. They went nineteen fucking straight series. Is They won the four cups in Rhode than they went three more and then they lost the cup in eighty four when the Evanston if five straight That was called. They were going for five straight. There were nineteen years is any team ever GONNA win. Nineteen not will ever win nine in a row again. Yeah Pittsburgh Pittsburgh do they did eight and then they lost in the first round to the islanders. I believe so. That would have been nine. I want to say no team ever wins ten series in a row again. That's what I'll say because that means you got to go to cups and then to the conference finals. That's it nine may happen. Ten will never happen again. Would you I would consider Would you consider two cups in three years? A Modern Day dynasty in the NHL given the salary cap. Tiny still the word dynasties three you consider okay if you in three if you three cups in six to seven year span from now moving to the rest of the time you're a dynasty. Yes okay that term cops in like seven years. Yeah well the Kings Dynasty or just a real good funneled kings dynasty. Gay All right boys you know. You want to call to cope with the organization. Sorry well wait. Let's go let's two Stanley Cups. And then a call their caught in between Talk Dynasty. That's two and a half. We gave three to call on frazier. Even Frazier said. He has two and a half cups. I believe I can just put three on the website. He does lessons for He's a three time cup. Which Gordon interview by the way he got that was. We got great feedback on Dazzle. I appreciate him coming on. We've mentioned the Stanley Cup. We've mentioned the call the cup. I think it's time you talk about the Chocolates Cup brought to you by our friends at devour we had a buddy Frankie Borelli play. Pat Contin was last Friday night. I can't keep track and then Kristen Fisher played Freddie Anderson on Tuesday. Night Grenell give us an update. We're at buddy. The comeback of the century this Tuesday thirty analysts in this game was unbelievable and business. Got Up and left. He thought the game was over. Break purse Freddie Anderson off the comeback century. Well for everyone who who hasn't seen it or won't seen it freshers. Two out of three series and Freddie Anderson has the Maple leafs wins the first game a game to journalism about Fisher. Goes up three one and with one minute. And twelve seconds to go says bays. I got this one locked up. Which by the way busy in there because he got up the hose which I am a veteran professional. Ip in empty water bottles. So I don't get up. Ever leave. Streams Biz left as Fisher's talking complete nonsense at the game's over what happens sixteen seconds later Freddie Anderson's makes if three to there's now fifty six seconds left and fifty eight and then with five seconds to go ties it up and wins in overtime. I three hundred dollars back from business. Two Point Fisher embarrasses himself like most of the coyotes do on a regular basis Freddie Anderson continues its reign as one of the top boys in the League and maybe one of the best. Nhl Twenty players in the NHL and and it was a great night. So I want to tell everyone as I've said before it is a lot of fun doing these things I really think it's similar to a two one the episode. You listen to now check it out. Watch the stream. I think you'll enjoy it and like listen. I I was never a video game guy will at least in the first little bit here especially with the streaming stuff but like slowly. I'm like getting drawn into it. And it's a great way for us to connect with the younger players nowadays too because that's something that they're interested in so we get to play by play a little fun draw some personality out of them and I thought Fisher in Anderson. We're not only the most entertaining to watch play. But you know they were telling some great stories and And Freddie was getting into a few of his was at the Hawaii trip was the one story. Yeah Cog Lonzo has some great great Anderson Stories in in Hawaii. Were I mean? He's trying to hang with a full-blown. What's the Talian neighborhood outside Toronto Biz? They're all Italian Woodbridge Woodbridge. He's a woodbridge Italian who gets completely perfectly Braun. Stop after one day in the Sun. Ferdie Aniston's a Dane. Who looks like Ed? Sheeran top performers in the world. I went to his concert. I sat on the Stream. Sixty thousand two hours by himself. He's wrapping up on stage. Water Guy Goalie looks like him perform just as well on the net is Shirin dozen the stage Sheeran. I mean excuse me Anderson's trying to Tan with Colorado and Hawaii. These guys he's got third degree burns on his back. Trying hang with a with an all of skinned Andrew cargo who should still be the ironman all in the NHL wasn't for Georgia power screwdriver so check it all out. Go into all this. Check it out just yet. Nothing on the Hockey Starts Look. Give it a look and are A. You might know this when we got into the edge share in Halloween costume that Anderson War. One of the best lookalike costumes any even said he grows his own hair to look like when Ed Sheeran I came over. Was it not true that he was living on? Jamie Fox is couch and how he kind of became popular and got discovered would see would play guitar at his after hours parties and just jam session with all these you know allister's and then all of a sudden he just became extremely famous and more famous than most of the people that read that party. I honestly I can't say I'm very familiar with his catalog whereas history as nowadays. It's true for six weeks. How did John Candy Fox discovered? I believe discovering at some type of calm. He was playing at a comedy club. I think is Jamie Jamie. He he went to college for music playing the piano. Stuff Jamie Foxx. Us Me Jamie Foxx. A five tool player five to funny musician. Great actor Jamie Fox. Does it all and he also was on in color which is just a fire show from back in the day when Ra was still at North Adams state studying sociology. Oh English guy. I and I completely agree with that. He's a he's a five star and he went on Howard Stern. I believe that's where I originally heard that Ed Sheeran thing I'm not if I'm not mistaken I would encourage anyone to go back and listen to that Howard Stern Jamie Fox interview because it was tremendous and it may be think even more highly of afterward. What have you been able to watch ray yet by the way? No No oh my goodness I I got into Vanda. Pump rules the most recent season. Jacks Taylor guys. We got a big fan now. I didn't realize this this you lost check cut. He loves BARSTOOL. Let's get him some gear asap now. God knows when Vander Pump Roseau be recording again. What a show. The wife was into it and I hopped in and it grab me it was like Michael Corleone just when I thought I was out they pull me back in how did I do. They're pretty good. It's what's funny about that quotes from Godfather. Three which is like the movie doors movie. God's but that that quote has managed to linger. I'll tell you that now. Speaking of movies we got a follow up from last week Biz BROUGHT UP LAWSUITS. What show called frivolous lawsuits? And I mentioned the infamous. Mcdonald's spilled coffee case and I the One guy who was like you're spreading false information. Shut up which I really didn't I just I went back and listened to not only did was mentioned the case I. I didn't follow up on the second pot but I didn't really give out any wrong information. Said that was the case. People noted while then. Everyone's like oh you gotTa Watch his documentary hot coffee and I'm like she's. That sounds familiar so I did a twitter rich with my name and hot coffee. Not only did I see this nine years ago. I tweeted fucking incessantly about it. I told everyone. Are You Gonna? Watch his documentary. You Got Watch his documentary sandwich. Montgomery Turtle Exactly Turtle Exa- well I think too when you get older we get full and like when you get new information of pushes all them for out. I think I watched one documentary pushed the coffee information hundred my brain. Well I'm like you. I don't remember anything but the good part about it is people re tell me stories that I was there for but it's like I'm here in it for the first time. It's I joined my life like this. I never been there like well. No you're fucking I know I remember. Tell me and then I get to relive the whole thing even though I was there the first time so Charlton Bush brain wit show to Weed Brin Ra. Sometimes it's great to not remember what you actually lived through. I think tell ten stories on this podcast just on repeat and I think every time I say. I think I've told this before. Have you guys ever heard about the time with spray tanning before the Anna Camp Alger with West admitted but anyways Biz? I did go back. I watched hot coffee again in whip would basically it does. It explains the whole myth of that story now the woman. She was a water if it was over. Three million dollars for being severely burned now. Yes she did. Put the Cup of coffee between her and her knees which probably not recommended. However McDonald's coffee was being like not stored just when you have little coffee machine. It was being kept between one hundred eighty one hundred ninety degrees Fahrenheit which is fucking ridiculously high high a number to keep it at and she was found twenty percent responsible but they found eighty percent responsibility for McDonald's and the reason being they had seven hundred complaints about hot coffee in the previous ten years. Seven hundred of them of people being burned skull. The coffee was being kept way too hot. So yeah the woman probably shouldn't have put between her knees to to put the car cream and sugar in but it should never been that hot. And what happened was she got that money and then they the award was reduced because of what they have these caps. These these fucking Well whatever award caps so she ended up settling out of court and she can't talk about it what she's deceased now but it was a nondisclosure agreement but what. The documentary explains how lawyers lobbyists insurance companies in media. Proceeds all team up in rigged the game and it's actually kind of disturbing. How like that one judge in Mississippi? How basically they? He was too friendly to plaintiffs that. They wanted him off the fucking court so they brought in their own judge. They basically spend all this money on bad Bad advertising making the guy look bad and they fucking then when he won that fucking case they fight. They filed the charges against them for bribery because of his buddy gave them alone it was. It's so such corruption on such a level. I'm surprised actually forgot. I watched it but anyways is a lot more to the story. The woman yes she. She spilled the coffee. She didn't get all that money. It's a shame that she became somewhat of a punchline. Because there's actually a whole other story about it and you get you sick watching it because it's just a reminder that things are rigged against the little men in this country a lot of the time. Dan that got deep are and you explain that awesome and my my whole. Take away from the thing. Is You get a hot coffee from McDonald Dunkin starbucks anywhere when you decide to put the milk and cream in. Don't put it between your legs. The GLITZ use our brain. Here right put you put it on. Maybe a flat hard surface because yeah it was stupid but that they were serving the the coffee that hard but the woman to have it in between her legs. Oh my God. What are you doing taking chicken? Parm out of the oven carrying at one. Hand it to the table and we used to have a recliner in our living room and I made one of those Cup of noodles where you put the hot water and I put up between my legs and accidentally lean back too much in port all over my lap and I have a third degree burns a mind to Roy. You're covered wagging burn kit. The thank God. I had my covered glands. Yeah that's why won't circumcise my kid and Casey spills a cup of new Ladas Cock okay. I'll miss you made the news this week. Oh did I and it wasn't for your pector either. The Boston Globe had graphic in the Sunday paper. The most twitter follows for inactive players. In your number you would actually be tied for second among active players that I look for the dog. I didn't see him there He might have music. Kevin Ball Dupont hates me. He's a scumbag. I don't like them either but I don't think he compiled that list but I'll tell you what hurt your wit Zach. Boy Chuck. The Guy who follows an follows half a twitter. A lot of people complain his he was on there because he's one of those like he follow like literally hundreds of thousands of people and everyone is his story on social media. Does anyone know that? And it was just like I think he thought it was more of like a marketing type thing where he thought the more follow was more interacting with benefits twitter. It's really not a as we know he is four hundred. He has eight hundred fifty eight thousand followers and he's falling four hundred thirty five thousand and there's you can't is. Here's accounts online. One follower in that one follower will be Zach. Boy Chuck so he's bought. He's he's basically a about if he's doing so we should get him on to talk about it. I mean maybe he's like Oh maybe using as an investment stamp from an investment standpoint and. He's I don't know not the way I would do things but nor do I nor do I like. It's an honor having that many people who follow me. I think I think half of them Mike. Fall need a rip on me but hey welcome to the fucking party a boy. I got this this morning. I'm going to ask you. Is there anything worse like this should be rules against using your fucking garden equipment at seven in the morning on a fucking weekday? No like Oh here we go. Let's hear IT A. What's your neighbor doing dude Monday? Eight thirty Sunday. Okay fucking Sunday. The one day everyone sleeps. He's out there with eight thirty thirties to early eight thirty on a Sunday on a Saturday. Adults don't sleep past eight thirty and Sunday Dude. Not everyone has kids either with some people. It's one day to sleep a little late. I love this fucking debate seven thirty on a fucking brutal seven thirty five. That's eight thirty on all right all right Monday through Saturday. No problem Sunday. I'll give Sunday the Lord's day the day that full call loans the day that it always plays good on the call course. I played going on Sun. Let's let's ask our maybe wait till nine. Let's ask our weather and gardening expert. Mike Grenell what do you? What do you think the consensus? Because I don't have an opinion on this. What time is fair to start gardening on Sunday? He's going to say like noon. I was GonNa meet you halfway and say seven forty five. I cannot wait so I got the. I don't know if I told you guys. I got a pool now. Well I put some speakers at the pool and I take rider like I get him up at seven. We give them breakfast seven fifteen. I'm in the pool with them by seven. Forty five and I'm pumping tunes to maybe. Now it's making me think like turn the tunes down or don't maybe necessarily go till nine this guy's given people but the weed whacker at seven thirty and you got your kid doing aqua sports at seven forty five with two and a half and he's swimming like a little fucking. What's that Guy's name Michael? Yeah Mach Speed Rider Phelps Rider Phelps. We could see him with a shaved body of Bissonnette Speedo and a couple of gold medals hanging from his neck. It's get him on the Russian regime couple meters on the are slow. Drago. God Yeah. We'll get the into a three year old. He'll be jacked. Not a hockey skate. Vaccine Story about power show to Bauer power hockey. Water company sent riders from wheels. He's walking around shooting pucks hockey hockey hockey goal. Yup that's it but keep it up. Maybe it'll make millions like your old man. A voice would have blown calls missing the playoffs in your car's check. Engine light having common shell. They're all certain there are things we dec- we can't do much about reps in the playoffs but with carshield. You don't have the freak out over check engine. Light like spitting jets. Carshield is also a big supporter of hockey and has their own youth program in Saint. Louis Carshield AAA hockey which you can learn more about at St L. Prospects Hockey Dot Com. Check it out. 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Call eight hundred car six thousand and mentioned the code chocolates or visit carshield dot com and use the code chick. Let's to save ten percent. That's carshield dot com code Chiklis. A deductible may apply Those a little bit more last dance followed. I know a show ended last week but We mentioned horace. Grant was complaining about it. Now Scottie Pippen has said that Some of it was outright. Outright lies The writer who wrote the Jordan Rules Book. Back in ninety two he had basically he was calling bullshit on the whole flu game. He said he thinks Jordan had altitude sickness. Will he said there was the idea that he got food? Poisoning from a pizza was just not believable. So like I said when we talked about last I it was it was basically housekeeping by M J. You know he didn't WanNa make the dock until Lebron won his first title so it seemed like there was an agenda at the whole thing and when a superstars in you know a producer of documentary? Like that you're not going to get the full story. And I think the fact that Scottie Pippen Horace Grant in the guy who cover the balls longer than anybody in history of all called? Bullshit on it. It's it's an interesting thing to talk about. What's up as I would say. I'm Pretty Gullible Guy. And obviously I was like maybe a few things but you guys think that he's such a sick sick sick puppy in the fact that he's obsessed with being the best that this was planned to come out now to kind of squash down the whole. Mj whole abroad might be better than MJ thing. I don't know I just I also today. There's audio that came out of him saying I'm not playing on the Dream Team if I say is on the team in in rocky what? She's denied documentary. He said I didn't have anything to do with picking a team so I think the the guy the guy's a competitive competitive bastard right. He's narcissistic affair word. Oh yeah well fuck y'all well I'll say this. The one story that I for sure think is ally is him saying grant told that reporter that stuff. Horace Grant Horace. Grant was on part. Might take you came on. I didn't say Shit like this is an MJ production. And he still is so adamant. Because he's so stubborn that I told that reporter all those things about that team when in fact I didn't so I really actually believe Horace Grant. Not One instance in terms of those Typhi. I feel I'm Jay. Is definitely one of those people when he has something in his head? It doesn't matter if he's wrong he's just gonNA stay stubborn. I mean he's not a guy who sounds like he's a a ton of like character just the stories that have come trickling down over the years so I'm not surprised by any of them. Well that's why we don't put you. Don't put athletes on pedestals man you know guys. Hey my father. My father met his idol car. Your Strength Sqi. God did he say it was disappointing? The guy's a complete perec principal right treated people like trashing hosts next door to his down the Cape One summer. It's just a piece of shit so sometimes your idol is not the Persian. You WanNa meet just because someone performs in the field in between the glass on the diamond doesn't necessarily make them a great person not saying that about MJ. But I'm certain that there was parts of that documentary. I was entertained by probably. Aren't the truth gain nonetheless Hook Line and sinker got me. I mentioned in the NHL joke. Before had I did want to say that the fan choice awards that I was helping with. They've been going great tons of votes. You can vote every day. There's twenty categories funniest player best stressed. It's just a way to keep fans engage until hockey does get back going so if you guys want to check it out in the NHL website. you can go. Vote for Yan's or hazy for funniest Guy Rios in that as well and as I mentioned. Twenty categories go have a good time. Actually I WANNA go back to the Jordan thing for one SEC vice the TV channel Vice. They did a documentary. This week on Jordan's just to sneak and this is definitely wouldn't seeing Michael Jordan produced documentary in it got into like the sneaker collecting thing that started with Air Jordan but also the violence that in the first kid kill for his Jordan's was in one thousand nine hundred nine and the last kid. Kilford hit Jordan's was in twenty nineteen just last year so it's thirty years of kids getting killed for fucking sneakers that NYC is held back like they could make as many as people want but they don't make them all so they can create a demand for it and that demand of kids have gotten the thirty fucking years. Yeah Yeah for sure but let's not get a twisted here like Nike's not to be blamed for the fact that some psychopath killed signed for not blaming number system put in place for thirty years. They've been getting killed sneakers. Where faulk I mean? Use Your brain. Don't kill someone for a pair of shoes you fox. I'm just pointing out that. This is stuff you weren't you weren't GonNa see in a Michael Jordan just got. That has nothing to do with him. I don't know I mean I do. Moorea people killing each other for fucking cell phone. You don't blame horizon but he's never but I think the point is he's never to my knowledge ever come out and was like hey cut the shit don't like he's never like come out and made it. Statements decrying the murder sneakers. I think that was the issue. There are raising again. Hey listen that's your opinion. I yeah it's it's definitely a opinion. I'm interested to hear what people have to say about that. But I just got a text from David Moss and confirming the story about the. The almost robbery goes home injured right after that living with dion and order pizza when the pizza guy showed up I opened the door and then there was three cars parked on the street guy standing outside of them. The the guy goes. Those guys asked me what I was doing here. I called our team security guy and they took off. Yeah so these guys were most of the rescue. What a Guy Foof Nice boys before we close up here first off. I want to send our condolences to Craig and Christine Simpson on the loss of this. Is the genus die? They both work in hockey media. So we want to extend our condolences. Also I lost a family member since last episode on my Uncle Betsy Billy Boyle wartime firefight of Johnstown acid. I just found out recently. He listened to the show. I just assumed baby boomers don't how to get on the Internet But I found out was he listened to show he a big fan and I found that he wasn't doing well. And you guys. I can't thank you enough. We use each semyon individual video that I passed on onto his grandson and he showed it to my uncle and he got to have a Lhasa. Alas little last in the chip. That's boys before he kinda was no longer lucid and he appreciated. I appreciate what you guys did for me so Maybe dedicate this episode of someone. Uncle Betsy Billy Boyle from Charlestown was. Oh beloved guy but we'll end on a similar note but with a little bit of a laugh Biz. I'm sorry We got an old. Y'All gonna read. I'm a big advocate. I think everybody should. If they can't write their own obituary perhaps have a family member right at it so much better than what you get from the funeral home. I know what had when we saw that was viral this week. And you're going to read it right. Now listen we got your uncle butts rest in peace. We got an uncle bunk. And what I'm about to read now. Granted this is GonNa take a little bit of time. I'm going to do my best to read it clearly and I are as right in terms of not having the funeral home. Write the obituary somebody from the family or even yourself. Maybe I think this might have been his nephew but one obituary this is for Randall. Jacobs rest in peace random. I'm going to read this year. He died in Cenex Randall. Jacobs of Phoenix died at age. Sixty five having lived the life that would have sent a lesser man to his grave decades. Earlier right away. That's that hooks. She in that hooks into bitchy. We now know wanted this guy. What was life? Let's go his friends. Call Them Rj. But to his family he was on Bunk Aka the bunk ser. He told his last joke. Which cannot it here which I love on May Fourth Two Thousand Twenty Uncle Punky burn the candle and whatever else was handy at both ends sounds like Ra oh to dinner where he were in La spoken a great in a Gravelly Pat. Sorry Boys Donald Awards. What spoken a gravelly. Twelve wisecracks mangled metaphors and inspired profanity that reflected the Arizona dive bars. Colorado ski slopes and various dodgy establish establishments where he spent his days and nights. He was a living breathing. Hang loose sign and a swaggering hybrid of Zony desert rat so cal. Hobo and telluride ski. Bum What an absolute description for this legend Randall. Bunk a prolific purveyor of bunk rooms such as saving clown or Zebo. If he was in a mood he would mercilessly tease gume. Bats nephews nicknamed such as mud flap and style master just days after his beloved hat. Kidder's passed away. He too so come to the great Gradu- leaving behind a vapor trail of memories and a piece of sage advice. Lingering in his loved ones years do what bunk say not Punky do? That's when you know the beauty. Listen to what I say. Don't follow my lead. Though for all chaotic energy and hysterical charm. He had a gentle soul a night out with Punky could result in a court summons or a world class hangover put. His friends and family would drop whatever they were doing to make a trip out to see him. His impish smile and a reverend sense of humor were enough to quell whatever sensibilities he offended. He didn't mean any harm that was just bunk Bianchi little little maybe need a little more of that in this world guys. Right joke was a joke when the end drew near he left us with a final punky. Ism I'm ready for the dirt nap but you can't leave the party if you can't find the door Richard Really. I love that dude. If you can't find the exit is supposed to leave your there all night. What a guy bunking. He found the door but the party will never be the same without him. And this is awesome in lieu of flowers. Please pay someone's open bar TAB smokable and fearlessly carve out some fresh lines through the trees on the gnarliest side of the mountain so listen sixty five years old if you're able to live a life where people speak of you. Your family member speak you. And that way every single person who I hope just heard what I read or read this before I read it and saw previously would want to hang out with this guy so our p. Randall Jacob. Show to you. What a guy he seemed to be. I'm going to honor with that bowl as soon as we finish this tributes. Listen then I might actually pick up a bar tab. Yeah pay pay. Someone's bar tablets. Let's when when life gets back and you're in line at the coffee shop we've talked about this before maybe you go up. And your coffee's three fifty and you give him twenty five bucks and you say hey pay the rest of the TABS STILL. It runs out and all of a sudden next two guys in line. You're told hey person in front of you don't know paid for you. Pay It forward so I love that and before we close out. I do little off topic. I WanNa thank Arrow sports. They sent me a street hawking for Ryder Stoughton Massachusetts unbelievable place check them out Arrow sports. I appreciated and we appreciate all you. Listeners guys it was great catch up with all your our fun episode. I think I had a lot of fun. Getting hockey being back US having something to talk about and some different playoff matchups that are going to get fans fuming mad when it begins and you know that there is a team that would have been in the playoffs. Had it ended eight eight. That will get bounced in that round robin so I look forward to all of it. I love all you listeners. I'm going to play golf in the best mood ever love you guys in Chocolates Cup Friday. We get the Vegas Golden Knights Nate Schmidt and Ryan Reeves tune in on that note. Have a great weekend as always. We'd like to thank fantastic sponsors. It's bitten chocolates big. Thanks as always to our friends at New Amsterdam. Vodka in Pink Whitney big thanks to our friends over at simplisafe for keeping everybody safe during these times big. Thanks to our PAL Tim over at Boise's hopefully checking out that built on in a big thanks to new friends over at carshield. Everybody have a great weekend.

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BGN Radio #48: Recapping Day 2 of the 2019 NFL Draft

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BGN Radio #48: Recapping Day 2 of the 2019 NFL Draft

"You're listening to be in radio. Why would you listen to any other eagles test with John Stolnis in randomly gal? Welcome into BGN radio. This is episode forty eight. I'm your special host for this episode. Michael cast follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL. Joining me today here to recap day to of the two thousand nineteen and fell draft, the master of ceremony may rain forever. He is Brandon league. Alan follow him on Twitter at Brandon gout in all of this. Of course, I got a positive this. Brought to you by the five folks at Espy nation. Beal g how you doing brother, Mike. It's good to be here with you lot to talk about with a lot of moving parts with the eagles and what they're doing in the straffed. Yes. Speaking of moving parts, there is a lot going on. And because of that we have some quick housecleaning to do that we didn't get to previously. And that's the news of TIMMY, Jernigan the defensive tackle signing a one year deal with the eagles. I don't think that changed the draw. Strategy at all as we heard about a lot of interest in Christian Wilkins, the eagles possibly moving up to thirteen which also means I don't have a ton of confidence. He even makes the roster ultimately. But it's news. They got lost in the shuffle of reacting to the draft. Of course, we're going to cover the draft that they two picks all that here. But before we get to that. Is there anything you'd like to add about the TIMMY Jernigan signing back when the eagles had that decision to make to you know, whether to pick up to me journey option or decline in obviously, we all knew there in decline that you weren't going to be paying whatever it was. I mean, they saved like seven million by declining to pick it up for a guy who only played forty five snaps last year at headed potential career ending which was by the way, like his kind of words, not just speculation. Like, he said his he thought is career might be over when he suffered that undisclosed mystery herniated disc in his back last offseason. So I thought was kinda weird when he like I felt like TIMMY journey. What was best for him was to come back to the eagles before they kinda kinda option in like be willing to take a pay cut? I think him making it to the market only hurt him because he what was he gonna find out there? Nothing. Like, you know, it's a it's a draft. It's loaded with talent. There's a lot of defensive lineman talent and freezing as well. So in the fact that we haven't seen these contracts. Details come out yet for two Jernigan probably tells us that it's not, you know, a a great deal for him. I to win your deal. I think he's gonna be on the team this year, especially because right now, you know, on paper fudge Cox Malea Jackson to me journey in even Trayvon Hester. Looks like a pretty good group of offensive tackles in. Then again, we'll see what the do here still on day three of the NFL draft. But yeah, I'm not I'm not shocked joining in his back. You know, I thought it made sense to bring back if you could get him on this kind of probably cheap low risk deal that I'm assuming you've got him on. And it's good if he's healthy. That's great. Definitely annual be interesting to see just like you said with Dave. Three though ripple effect from that if they still have faith that Jernigan will be there, if not if they're still fine with the current rotation that they had again, we mentioned the interest in Wilkins, a lot of my favorite darlings from the interior defensive line class are off the board at this point that let's talk about a guy that's not off the board before we get to the eagles selections because this is a guy that that jerk Benjamin. So lack was trying to sell you on to select it five Chauncey Gardiner Johnson has seen a massive slide. We're recording at the very end of the third round. So if you get selected here, we'll try to update you, but we might miss this. As we go through the last few picks around, but a Bill G what's wrong with Ben. What's his deal? How did he not know? He's supposed to be connected to these things. Very disappointed going to have to seriously consider firing Ben from the podcast, obviously. Yeah. But speaks to how unpredictable everything is right. Like, you know, we we go into the draft. We all think we know what's going to happen to some extent. And then feral gets taken at four and. Gardner Johnson slips out of out of potentially until day three. If he doesn't get tonight. So like, you know, who knows what these things. It's unpredictable. I mean, I guess, you know, in eagles context here, Mike, how surprised are you that none of their first three picks are defensive players there. It's all often so far yet. They're really loading up on offense. I'm fascinated by that because it seems like, and it's not like the manner that we may have thought would like the speed threat. But we'll talk about that. And yet they haven't even touched the defense position. We know that they had replacement level starters that they could probably upgrade the linebacker position. We know that safety is something that we're we were looking at before the draft. They brought in a ton of official visits for like the top tier type of guys at least. That's what we thought. Anyway, I mean, darnel savage was one of the guys that we brought in. And he went twenty first overall, you know, opposite story for garner. Johnson weren't lawn Thornhill win day to but they had a lot of interest in the position is like a long-term feel. They must have really. I loved the guys that were there and had them high on the board for them to go offense offense offense like that. And let's get into some of those offensive players will start talking about the picture mile Saint there's running back at fifty three overall in the second round, you know, Beal, I was really hoping for one of the safeties that we've been trying to the table for right here at fifty three. I thought the board was falling perfectly. There. We've been told by several people that the eagles were in love with Sandra. So it really wasn't a big surprise. When we productive player one thousand two hundred seventy four yards last year in the run game added on the one hundred thirty nine yards receiving so you hope to more there. Maybe it's one of those what can he do versus what he was asked to do type situations because he certainly has the ability to improve in that area. He tested pretty well one thing that has to clean up, and we talked about this with Benjamin soul. Ackerley? I did I know fumbles aren't necessarily sticky from year to year, but his average of two point six fumbles per one hundred carries was a big red flag for me. And a lot of them came again. Contact overall. There are a lot of players I had higher on my board, including Durell Henderson of Memphis. But if you wanna keep it in the same position group there, but he was really tough to evolve for me Sanders was I went back to his tape. A few times to see if there was something that I was missing. And I still like the prospect. I just didn't like him necessarily in that range, and I'll place my faith in how we induce daily to prove me wrong on this one build you. What was your reaction when the pit came down? Oh, I think Howie Roseman reactions said a best he trolled the eagles media tonight. And he's like, hey DJ after running back. Finally, we did it, and I can stop asking us about it. So very strong move there by Roseman. But I mean, this is, you know, this is a significant thing like Howie Roseman until this two thousand nineteen fell draft had never drafted a running back before the fourth round. And we all know who they took in the fourth round a couple of years ago. And I very sorry. Just another missed by then come on anyway. Yeah. It's killing me. You're. Gonna have to discipline. He's still in both of us were mile Sanders. I just the cell on him to me looking at this from my standpoint here is that like untapped potential here because of the whole him sitting behind saquon Barkley at Penn State, you know, you look at the athleticism. He tested, you know, not amazing. But like good thing about him. I guess to me is that like I'm gonna redo here from what Thore Nystrom from rota world wrote about him. I think this kind of sums up mile cinders to me, and the quote is if Sanders hits his ceiling he's going to become one of the best backs in this class, perhaps even the very best. If it turns out that this is just sort of who he is than be solid enough committee guy eminently replaceable, and from you know, that seems kinda spot on for what I think of mile Sanders there, and that's kind of like what? So I don't think it'd be this horrible player for the kind of I kind of worry what if he's kind of just like window Smallwood, you know, in that sense of like, okay, kinda fine and probably. Than window small. But he's just not like the dynamic guy that you want him to be definitely needed to address this position in some kind of way in the draft. They needed. There was obvious need for some kind of pass catching running back who can make people miss to some extent in has some kind of allusive ability in me, no mile Sanders has that somewhat amazing PF had him thirteen in terms of yards after contact per attempt. Skillset he's able to kind of make some people miss sometimes. So I get it. In theory to some extent in Jordan Howard is a free agent after this year. So it's not like he was fully anyone as some kind of long-term answer here. So mile senders can be part of this rotation. He can potentially guess the hope would be, you know, take over as the one a guy in the rotation next year moving forward. But yeah, I don't know. I'm kinda I don't know how to fill this. Tell me more on it. Like if you can't. Yeah. Let's go through some strengths and weaknesses that. I have laid out here for a week and kind of get more full picture of what I. I saw from my evaluation which I worked a ton on Sanders because it was a very hard back to figure out maybe because of inexperienced, but some of the strengths. Let's talk about that. So he's a coiled up runner, right? He gets good power out of his cuts from gap to gab, very springy type guy. So I like that aspect he can get from one side of the gap to the other side of the gap. And then chain another cut together with it without losing speed. Which is a very nice trait to have a he payers that with really good balance. He keeps his pads over his knees. He's got a fishing footwork. He's ready to cut at all times favor that power that's fantastic. As he presses the line. He's ready to go. I would have liked to have seen better results in space in terms of making guys miss. But he definitely has flash in you, you quoted the staff there he is flashed the that ability because of the bursts that he carries into those customers it's not just at the line when he gets in space. He can chain those cuss together he can set guys up at speed, which was one of the more attractive traits of drill Henderson's game that I really liked. So they kind of have that in. Common which is nice. I mentioned his receiving production before being a minus. But the film shows in limited exposures that he's a guy with good hands that can make that can take some slot reps. If you need them to we just didn't get to see a whole lot of it. So you can have to see some improvement a fuller route tree on check downs. He was nice. And again, you get him in space and he's fine some of the weaknesses. I think he can be a bit impatient and get tunnel vision as he's pressing the line, and they get perhaps that was just inexperienced one year of starting experience. And that thankfully, also comes with low tread on the tires, but I feel overall that his vision as a back was lacking fumbles. We mentioned have to take care of the ball. You're gonna stay on the field. They're not gonna put up with that long pass, bro is my big bugaboo with him. Luckily, Howard's very strong in this regard. But I it's got to be improved upon for Sanders. It's a hole in his game. And I know people that are hearing that right now are groaning to themselves because of the issues that the eagles have had in that air. Area recently. So he has to have to clean that up. He's got to get better with his depth away engages with his hands dips his head sometimes and could get blown by. So that is one if I had to pick one area of his game that I would say is weak is trait. I would say it's his pass, bro. But as as far as what Thors said, I really liked that assessment. Because if he is just who he is right now, you're looking at a solid one b and that's okay. But really what you're looking for in the second round from from the running back position, which has a lower value than a lot of these other positions is just a higher impact build you. How would you say that he fits in the I if you could predict do you think he gets more carries than Jordan Howard this year? I don't think so I think you know, you have Howard here traded for him, especially if he's not going to be around long term one not run him into the ground. No. I'm not saying, you know during our twenty Gary per game guy. That's just not how eagles run their offense. Let's just you know, we haven't seen that you're in the Doug Peterson era. And I don't think we're out. To. So I still think Howard leads the way unless he struggles, you know, in in my house enders, not really come on as the season goes along the kinds of becomes a situation where you have to play him more. Mike clay from ESPN put out projection for miles. Anders the season. He has him at hundred seventy carries for seven hundred sixteen yards five touchdowns thirty five receptions for two hundred seventy nine yards one touchdown. So like, you know, a pretty that's pretty I think optimistic a little actually a little bit. But kind of their overall for what you can expect out of him. It's going back to what I said about small would like some of the things you said, isn't that kind of small issues like lack vision, fumbling issues Hasbro? Yeah passer. That's it's almost like you're describing announcement saying there is this player. But I'm just saying some of those things a little similar shin my head, and that's that's the part. I don't love the part of you love again, the part where I think eating try to sell yourself on these some myself on that the untapped. Henschel thing. You know, he's only twenty one. You know, he was sitting behind saquon Barkley, which is not a slight. That's you'll be the you can be incredibly good just because he's there like you're not gonna get that chance to shine because it's saquon Barkley it's kind of interesting evaluation because you look back to the two thousand seventeen draft in. What did we all think was put into the eagles production to a fault? You have to done on Humphry most productive running back in college history. So it's kind of interesting that they would go the opposite direction in this way. But apparently really loved him the short a lot of interest in him. They had him on a project. Visit do Staley apparently really liked him. They also talked to him at the combine Pol dumber. Which from the daily news that you will really liked Sanders lot leading up to the draft. So there's definitely a lot of smoke here around this one turned out to be true in this guy again in this the guy who they're taking, you know, this is the earliest running back. Harry rosement has ever taken. So I just think that's interesting. You're you're really putting himself out there. And be like, this is our guy. We like this guy a lot. And I just I hope he can meet up to the expectation because like you said like he can be this fine running back, and that's okay. But this is the second round pick. So that's a significant resource. So I hope he's pretty good. Yeah. Fans will not be happy with that. And you know, obviously, we have a lot of Penn State fans. That are also eagles fans that are probably hate, right? A right now saying you can book it he's star. I mean. Yeah. I mean, we all we're all rooting for this guy v if he's good. It's better for the eagles. You hope that's what it is. But you know, you mentioned small some some of the traits that are lacking. There. I will say that the defining trait between the two is that ability to cut because I think Smallwood like corners like dump truck and Sandra's able to get in and out and kind of has that slalom type footwork raking carry speed. And and it's real nice. There's a defining traits. Make you feel better. If you're worried about the Wendo Smallwood, comparison Beal g any last word on Sanders. Maybe you wanna grade. Pick before we take a break in go to our next election. Yes, all give you the grade from bleeding renascent that come first we did a poll as we always do in our articles on BGN and with just over three thousand votes. We have fifty three percent checking in a liked it the Penn State fans baby there represent lot of vans. Thirty five percent of the B. So it's eighty percent. Total beer better. And eight percent. See so people like to pick for me. I have to give it a be just from first glance. There's some things maybe that's generous. I don't know. I really don't know how to feel about this from from my opinion, this is not going to be a popular opinion. And I hate being negative. I'm probably going to give it a C. Just because there were so many other players of Vail lable on my board where the eagles could have gotten contributions from including again, another running back that we mentioned before Durell Henderson who I think is already a better receiver right now than seniors. Obviously Sanders has that ceiling that he could possibly reach as far as being a receiver goes of. I mean Henderson's got that one point four to ten yard split. But the bursted he's got I would have been more. Okay. With him there. I'm not gonna lie to anyone about my valuation and make you think that you know, everything is rosy right now. But I think we we've spoken honestly about Sanders about her his about his evaluation that I have on your opinion of him. I gave him a C you gave him a B hopefully process all wrong, and he is an a plus running back baby. Even. One. So when we come back, you're on bleeding relation BGN radio episode, forty eight we're gonna talk about the next selection at pick fifty seven in the second round right here on lead greenish everybody. Neil Patel editor and chief of the verge and this is the verge cast. I is the flagship podcast the verge every week. We cover the latest Intech news reviews. We took a critical look at what is going on now. And next in the world of tech show hosted by me, our executive editor debone, not your friend and Paul Miller. It just feels like there's something wrong with all computers, though. Don't you think that sometimes we do that on Fridays and on Tuesdays interview episode IV in talking to all kinds of influential people in around the world attack. 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And we are back here on bleeding relation for BGN radio episode, forty eight myself joined by Beal may forever reign. Let's talk about this selection at fifty seven here. It was a surprise pick JJ or Sega Whiteside. The wide receiver out of Stanford six to two twenty five bigwigs span seventy nine seven eight inches. That's ninetieth percentile got long arms big catch radius. And I've said this on other shows I can confirm that at the Stanford pro day at least two scouts had him better than they reported four point four nine forty yard. Dash they had him at under four four. We're talking one Hatem at four three eight another scout had him at four three nine. Now is so lack has pointed out that's partly due to his track background. But the dude isn't slow which I think is the impression that a lot of people will get from him when they see a big wide receiver that they don't know much about. So let's dispel that. Rumor right now, this guy is not a slot. Out there. I the way this whole thing works out in a lot of people asked about the fit. Right. So it kinda reminds me of the pairing of maybe Mike Evans, and Chris Godwin or out, Sean, Jeffrey, and Brandon Marshall and that worked out pretty well. People forget that that tandem existed. I've had a ton of people asking about how he fits as you know. Bill g I wrote this article for bleeding green dot com that talked about what happens if they draft a big dude like JJ as tight that they were bringing in for official visits. They were bringing in like shiftier speedier slot type guys, including me, go Hormann who we can talk about what happened there. But my guess if I if I say right now that dishonor Jackson gets kicked into the slot more. Maybe I'm not saying like a whole lot maybe about thirty to forty percent. I think Nelson Adler is definitely on the block. We keep an eye on that moving forward. If Agla is gone that makes six hundred ten slot reps that left the building this off season. When you combine. Them with Tate and everybody else. This is a midseason herky-jerky transition style that we went through with Tate. We got a whole lot of time to figure out how all of this gels together as they work in JJ, and he's not expected to be a starter right away. And you just hope by the end of the year that he's giving you a contribution and showing some of the dominance, especially in the red zone that he showed in college g your instant reaction to the selection of JJ are cigarette side, you're the fifth thing. I guess was kind of where I added question about when I saw this. Because in kind of contrasting that to the mile Sanders thing like, I know why mile Sanders fits in on this team. Like, I know will start him. They had that need the wide receiver thing they didn't necessarily. They didn't have to get this guy. Right. It's not like they they have this leering need for exactly what he brings the table. At least how I saw it. So that was kinda made me curious about this one. So you look at who he is player and the talents. Clearly there you look at how you know, he. These third overall wide receiver. He was tense in yards per route run he had the third highest passer rating when targeted last year, and you are not about the speed thing there might in. He was tied for eleventh explosive place last year watching the sky, you know, he's definitely to be in the al-sham Jeffrey mode of throw up and let him catch. It figure it out. He is that basketball background and really kind of interesting to me. I'm wondering if eagles are kind of zigging or zagging, everyone say it when the rest of the league is beginning smaller in in China to find these guys who are quicker getting bigger like you have Zakar it's and Dallas Qatar, and I'll Sean Jeffrey now J J A W, which again, that's a whole another thing we need to figure out by the way at the day. I don't know what we're doing the nickname thing. It's too confusing. Some people wanna call him jaws. We can't call him jaws. Where do you have jaws? You can't you can't have Rhonda worse. He I'm reaching out searches. So, you know, I'm reaching out to my Stanford guy having heard back from yet. But I'm wondering a nickname. We don't necessarily know about this is the most important thing. I think he definitely needs to be asked about this. When he has project media post draft media here yet. So a lot of size with all these guys that's kind of interesting angle to this and just going at a larger thematical angle here are loading up on playmakers or helmet for Carson Wentz supporting cast call it what you will. And that's probably not by accident. I mean, I think they probably definitely want to surround personal with a lot of talent especially going into such a key year. Like he is this year. So I think some people will be like, hey, why are the you'll getting another guy who's kind of a jump ball receiver win? Carson doesn't. Always do that often. Jeffrey now, people are gonna question that I think people are gonna question, you know, the the athlete you said the speed was there, Mike, but you know, you look at the scouting reports. And they're like he's nothing run by defensive back. So in especially just because some of the other receivers they were looking at like, a Miko Hartman or Hollywood Brown. These guys figured, okay? They kind of want someone who's gonna have that deep speed any still, Sean, Sean also turns thirty three this year. And he's probably only going to be on the team realistically for one or two more seasons you signed through three more years. But you know, who knows if he makes it to the last year. So another interesting kind of thing here again, I'm not really sure had feel about just because the fit is interesting to me in enough Nadler angle is a big one. Obviously that we need to talk about. Now. Harry Roseman was asked about Adler and the rumors that have been out there to be clear. I guess we should say it's not that the eagles necessarily. Want to trade Nelson? I've lower in in terms of how these rumors have been phrased it's always been like they're open to offers. And even when Adam Schefter said tonight after the eagles drafted JJ here. So we'll see how that goes still. You know, I think it's still hardly lock that at Lord's going to be on the roster. Just because how he says it on a draft night press conference in April. So a lot of off season still for the season gets here. You know, there's the trade deadline in late October early November whenever it is. So so a lot of time for that to happen. If it does. So it's interesting I just into fits interesting here. And I'm not totally sure about what to make. I think your point about the brand Marshall awesome. Jeffrey thing is very interesting. I mean, all Sean head some of his best years there working across from Marshall. So I'm intrigued, but you know, I'm kind of also in this kind of wait-and-see mode. Yeah, that's fair. And look this weapons for Wentz partout when you really think about it with all the offense. Talent that they added not only in free agency. But now in the draft is well in all kinda give you my rundown on jayjay. I guess is what I'll call them for short right now, cigarette. Seidman you talk about his strength. So there's so much more to route running than typically it's talked about bullets get into some of that number one. He's got typewriter feet. They are quick. And he uses them really well to get in and out of cuts at a faster pace. A lot of big dudes uses his hands wealth throughout the route dumb, though, I'd like to see more of that to keep himself clean. He's got surprising lateral agility on film, and I all lot of that too technique, which doesn't lock his athleticism. So he gets in and out of his cuts doesn't really waste much motion the stacks and tracks with the best of in this class is all aided by his releases, which are super super clean. So, you know, we're talking about you know, he might not blow past the guy, but he's going to beat them on the release and then stack them, and then that is his world you combine all of that with the ability to create space act, the catch point he's. As a jump ball demon. He's a serious weapon in the red zone. I'm telling you if this guy is going to put himself in the best position to go up and get it, and he's going to be aggressive about it. So I mentioned the lateral Jillian goaded some weaknesses some of the hard Ingle cuts. Some of the comebacks curls. There's going to be a little extra step in there. And I don't know if I describe it as as a gear down, but there is an extra step there. It's just a product of the body type. But it's there these that and all and this is the biggest weakness he's not going to be a yards after catch wizard. It's just not his game. And it's probably is worse. Trade is kind of really like L, Sean in that regard. So overall, you're getting a guy that that's clean at the line. A dominating presence downfield in the red zone guy works on his craft. I love the players thirty eighth overall my board. He was my fourth wide receiver. I was pretty high on him, and I can pound table and prognosticate as much as I like, but we won't know until the rubber hits the road. And we understand how all of these different moving pieces right now throughout this draft process going into training camp preseason as a season starts how. All that meshes together. So the question is definitely out there. It's definitely warranted. I understand it. But from my point of view right now, the eagles got a really good football player at a great value. And I love it. So I'm gonna go ahead because of the concerns with the fit how it all works in. I'm going to give it a be even though it's a really good value for me Bill. Gee, what say you? Yeah. Wanna go again look back here at the leading green nation ratings. We have so far. And again, you can go vote for this yourself on in Greenwich dot com. Look for the articles with these polls in them, though with just over three thousand five hundred votes only eighteen percent say so pretty much the least popular you'll picked so far. Yes. Forty six percent say be so it's not viewed as some disaster pick. But there's twenty seven percent see, I guess we'll be minus for this one. Yeah. I just the fifth thing. I guess that's what I can't stop thinking about like, especially if you're is here. Still makes it. Weird. I guess I of get it in a long-term because also Jeffrey getting older and for as much as I love him to be around forever. You know, his contract. Also, pretty big one in the if they wanted to move on from that. I guess you know, there you have. I mean, how we Roseman is also talked about to that it takes out a develop these wide receiver. So maybe saying, you know, that's a big part of it. That's a great point, Mike. I think that's that's definitely something to consider. But I guess between this and the Sanders thing, I guess my overall take away from this night is like I'm not bummed in the sense of. I think these are terrible picks like would be the near chance at number six are the home runs that I wanted I guess not. And I think one of the biggest concerns one of my biggest annoyances with us last year was their lack of explosion. And I just wonder did that get better. I think it's not I already said cited that that about JJ's explosive plays. But is that going to translate to the NFL the yards after the catch isn't there, which I don't love because just last year felt like, and I said it multiple times you'll have the most tackle -able off. Offense in the NFL someone catch the ball and nothing's going to happen after that. There's just no or you know, someone gets out into open space running back and there's one offender needs to make him. Just never do. So it's just frustrating watch. I want that explosion. I want that speed. And now look deals got Sean Jackson back. But that's just one guy. You know, what it strong gets hurt? Like he's he hasn't played sixteen game seasons very often in his career. He hasn't always missed a ton of time. But still like I don't want him to be the only guy who can kind of bring that dynamism to the offense. So I guess that's kinda what I'm just kinda not thrilled about the fact that leading get these necessarily homerun hitters, you would have had in Miko Hartman or Anura Anderson. These guys who have a lot of speed. And I guess that's kind of why I'm a little bit disappointed in that way. In a dispute the B B B, minus for JJ as a whole over being this whole thing, you're including Dillard that was going to ask you about him. He is a slam dunk a for me. Yes. So overall. I guess I'm giving it to be as a whole Dillard in there a love the Dillard pick. So you didn't get to chime in on that when me me and Stolnis recording. But yeah, we were talking in this lack obviously made a lot of sense to both of us. Do you wanna cheer the listeners up say goodbye to them and professor love for Dillard and the listeners at the same time. I think that's a good way to start to move out of here may be some ratings out is. Yeah, I feel bad because people are going to don't man that podcasts with such a bummer. I didn't mean. Not our goal to bump people out. I think and again, I don't think I'm like, I'm not like all all hope is lost fire. How is not what I wanna give off? I'm just like I'm not as cited as I thought I might be which kinda has me relatively disappointed in that. I thought like you'll make it a guy that I was just going to be over the moon about and I throw a fit, and it was just like, oh, this is a no brainer. Like, these aren't that? For me. I'm kind of having to like think about them more. Maybe that's because I'm stupid. Offense, really doesn't I'm over complicating this in my head. But maybe it's just because you know, it's not the most obvious fit on paper and we'll see overall. But as always we appreciate you falling along here on weei nation dot com. All the written content, obviously online everyone's doing a great job with that you Mike Ben both end. Thrilling time select Alexis league Tyler everyone who's helping out the doing a great job on the site and the podcast as well. So definitely continue to fall long hair. We have a big day head of us Mike year in day three you'll may of two more picks though, so down how that goes. They potentially have nine picks next year. So they could they could always heavily dip into that. If they wanted to trade up into this year, or they trade or the trade big. So there's options, but yeah, we'll see with just two more pigs potentially to go. We'll see what they do here. We will catch you next time on BG radio. We appr-. She ate you. Tune in for the draft special. 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Episode 659: John Crist

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Episode 659: John Crist

"From the creators, relevant magazine. This is relevant podcast. Twenty two thousand eighteen and it's the relevant podcast. I'm your host Cameron Strang. And we have a special one weird one in store today here with me in our arlando studios on the ones the twos are luxuries editor my brother, Chandler, staying on the Skype line from Nashville, Tennessee Tyler Huckabee. Hey, everybody. This is like I said, it's unusual show. So any is not on the recording today. Joining us from Gainesville, Florida any coffee. Yeah. The big cat is back Jesse still on vacation and a very special edition joining us here. Live in-studio our good friends. John Chris what Aaron tuning out here? Baby come on. Erin. I gotta be honest with you. Going to be honest with you we've corresponded we've met over the years. We've correspondent I would consider your social media. It is only in the last year. I mean, it's been years that we've it's only in the last year that I realized your last name had an in. I thought your name was always the answer to what's that noise. Aaron chewing every trophy ever got as a kid says chewing anxious to okay? So it's not it's tuning did. You get as a kid. One for the job. Efan in first grade, and then every jogging toll, right? You guys are on tour right now, and they're playing Orlando tonight. And so they were kind enough to come in Mumbai. You would take home come on huge fan. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You generation around. Oh, yeah. Multigeneration the whole strength clan will be John John just last night. I got an Email from the Reimann you're playing the historic the mother church. We're Nashville Tennessee the rhyme. Johnny cash. People are into it, man. Ask this in a plight way. Yes. Trump was complements Cameron. The funny stories I'm like, I'm thirty four is a perfect example. So like I live in a complex by right by Belmont. A bunch of college kids like wait you do. Asheville moved to Nashville. For travelling Caesar touring. Well, anyway. LA? And then why did you move away again moved LA because they were like pretty much like they're like your funny, but like your name on the marquee at the Reimann, it's not gonna selling tickets because no knows you are five years ago. I moved L A. And like they wanted me to get in like a sitcom or like a movie you went LA for TV. No, well, yeah. Probably because they were like, we gotta you got to be popular to sell tickets because all I wanted to do was live standup. I didn't really really wanted to a lot of comics trying to get into TV. I just love the feedback of some ask Jerry Seinfeld worldwide wide never wrote a book he said because I can't hear the laughs. So, but you failed at television. Well, I wouldn't say that God almighty be cool. Wow. Yeah. He went he went to be on a sitcom ended up being a prank show like actor. And then I got while I got around the whole system because now like all those wanted to do is like. So five thousand tickets in Orlando, and I can now without that. Yeah. So it's like they're like like like in pilot season as February. There were my age. I was like you gotta stay here for trial for like, I was like. Yeah. But like there's a lot of I would have to cancel out of right work. Right to do. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, I think my. You wanna get close to life way? You wanna be? He's on the board. Now, so on the board. On the board now. So, yeah, he's all those meetings out of life with why preemptively we're just just don't want. It this way. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's very first issue back in two thousand three good people. But yeah. John's stole okay. I get it. I don't I don't I. Anyway, we want to talk about so. So two years ago Aaron are making videos on the internet. Yeah. And then a year ago ish you can't throw a studio for you had a gig and lakeland sold fourteen hundred c sold out. Theater that night. And I was like because my mom was there. She told me all about it. Yeah. Yeah. And and then be more like John. He's literally things like that. I'm so proud of him. Christmas. And now, you guys you're now, you're torturing, you know, what twenty thirty dates, and I just saw your added a leg for the spring. You're selling out. The my mom was telling me months ago, you sold out Orlando five thousand seat thing months in advance. We don't you didn't add a second show. Like you did for some your cities Friday why? So the second show on Saturdays. I mean, we get a lot of your fans are jobless. Mighty like relevant relevant lit readers can talk. Economy there. Fan, and I have a very exciting career. Job. So. He's logging in from frosty. Monkey right? Screenplay. John question for you. When you were a little kid growing up listening to did you ever think to yourself? You know, what I'm going to be on a cruise ship opening for these guys. Did you have to? Did you have to? I'm going on the cruise. Okay. Is media. It's not like some insider information thing, I put it. I haven't announced it yet. They put it out. Why? Okay. I would question. Why? Well, first of all, I saw DC talk at the FOX theater when I was like ten and the j Bill live Toby, and you said you said I need to make fun of that need to get to there. I like hauling him Toby, so cool. Great hearing you say. Great hearing you say. Are you a little worried that you know, because you have promising career going, but about what people will think when they share that. You're Jesus free. Let's not. Let's not. So we're doing like a we tour obviously by myself. And then we'd like we were trying to like two we're taking a couple dates like with for king and country or a weekend with them. They're good guy. Also, we're doing like a weekend with Larry the cable guy, really really map. I love it man in February. Yeah. So you don't you who? Okay. Who's the John Christie fan in your mind? Dude, you know, and it's not for it's not for everybody. Not if it's now for you. I don't mind if it's now for you, not you personally. But like for me tonight, if you're like into it, the new people like yo I'm like in into it. But I I don't try. I'm not I think when I was in LA, I was with the comedy magic loved the comedy club. And they had always told me I do magic castle. Now, that's different. So they were like. So they were like my agents out there when I first moved or like, you gotta get away from this Christian stuff. You gotta be more like mainstream. You got like kind of cut that out of your act. Kathleen, Madigan, I believe was doing in front of me, and she had a a bit about Moses and the burning Bush and everyone was dying in a comedy club. Everyone was dying. And that's Jaffe, always does. Jesus changed my whole life because I was I what just happened more than Jesus for more than a dozen the second. Okay. Which is happened. And she's like everybody knows these things. Everybody knows about like Jona, David, and Goliath Jesus had disciples churches need money, the every all these things like like utilize a lot of comics that are like THEO von very specifically like southern and he just like owns that's who he is. So like if I go out with Larry probably be different material than when a little bit saying, but for the most part everybody knows about like a few more like racist slurs things like. Far jokes care who you are funny. What about when you get out on international waters talk. Do you feel? Rules, dude. That's right. I would. I had like a roast, you know, I got kicked out of the Kayla fan awards now roast kicked you out or so it played on Bob lifeway came that's enough. I did a roast and then it got cut from the aired, and I'm murdered everyone. Because I gotta make sure like if I was on a like, let's say on the DC talk crews are on winter jam. I gotta make sure I'm still being me out there. Right. So like everybody knows what I do if you've invited me out here to be on this you're expecting. So I was like, hey, give it up for everybody. That's gonna win a k love fan awards, and I go home and think to themselves. I wish this was a Grammy. I'll go give it did that work in the room. No, okay. Everyone is I heard that. Yeah. Back to your best friend. Your friend bomb? How about this is great to be here? Celebrating the same five bands been celebrating the last fifty. Donald of the kale awards. Hey, just see no song of the year is going to be awarded tonight. And just say, no when you're done when you're sick of hearing that song kill is going to run for the next ten years. Yes. I did. I said yes, I did. I did I go Kim. Walker congratulate she's not here. But I haven't seen everybody heard her laugh like I said. Or like like, but they were like you can't put this on like, you knew this is what I do have you seen. I can't believe you said that thing about they're gonna play it for the next. Great. They were like, yeah, we can't air this. That's amazing. Still has such a fiction for you. She comes on the cruise. No, he likes. Stepdad? Jay senior year on the cruise. She'd be like, hey. I almost when they did the first cruise Eddie. And I we almost went we almost bought tickets to go. And I this is this is great. Yeah. This is ironic. Let's go have a good time. And then I thought I'm going to be on a boat with a bunch of people who aren't here because it's funny. I don't wanna be on the boat with. Talk is not you know, the the pure. I don't think I'm going to roast it. I mean, I will. But I do ju I'm not going to be like hammer and then go in my room. Them. Or is there a whole line? So everybody does like the big theater on the ship can only fit like two thousand people. So I'll do three shows but the same show. So like the group comes in Monday night, the be saying because everybody can't fit the whole can't fit in the theater at once. So that they'll they'll do the same thing. Which is. Yeah. So is that like pinnacle career pinnacle like we're on there or you can't go up from here. I don't think I mean the tonight show. Netflix nodded, I've already made it good here. Here. Most like surreal career moment. Like the point at which you were like, this is not anything I have ever dreamed for man. What are you saying? I'm going to say right now we've been on tour for while I show up this weekend. And it's a tour bus, and then a semi truck carrying the set and all the other stuff it is now fully wrapped with a ton of John's on it. On a sim I trust. Wow. This week in just is outrageous. You get to keep it driving around Nashville. People are texting me like, hey, I think I'm driving on seventy five south. And I think I just passed a truck. I gotta say the John my favorite part of the whole new like the new and improved John Chris machine is that on Instagram when you've sold out a show that you've done a lot of so congratulations. But it always says like John Chris sold out. And I always think that's what they're trying to say. But it makes me laugh. But it is kinda be right. So you went to do the TV thing one right fit because what you wanted to stand up and right now, if you're selling out fifty dates towards towards multi thousand seat theaters, you know, and you have your face on a semi that's kind of like peak stand up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're thirty four I'm thirty four you going to just ride this wave Caleb style. Or what are you gonna do? You know, we we. I mean, we're doing First Baptist Orlando tonight, the FOX theater and Elena and the Reimann we the so like. The mainstream would be the next because like a lot of people like in in like a lot of people that are by fans that Disney video that came out like a lot of those people are going to be here tonight. There were like, we don't know anything about Jesus or like a church or what we don't know. But so First Baptist Orlando like, yeah, we'd like him. But I don't know what happens in there. Right. The like. I don't know. I don't know. But like, so if there was like a neck, I play basketball, there's like an open Mike open gym at like a synagogue. I'll be like we're like a mosque. I'll be like I just I don't know what they do in there. Right. I'll be out in there. Yeah. People are literally my buddies. Do I'm not I can't come to. I I might be struck debt. They don't they. They won't be like they like church is very like charismatic. Power sent. Yeah. He's they're going to be an altar call. They ask for offering how we associate those things with that building. Right. But like at the comedy club. We did like the West Palm Beach improv, and it was packed full of people that were like young stylish drinking and in the more traditional church crowd is scared to go there. Right. So the vote. So would you know what you gotta do a neutral venue, right? Where like it's the theater where like, hey, everybody. If you love me from the Disney movie or you love me from the church road rage or the pastor fantasy draft. We can all be together. Right, which is ideal. Today, those pastors get mad at you, the the only passers that got mad or the ones that weren't in it. Yeah, they weren't famous enough to be in it. Right. Like, dude, I can't be famous enough to be in it. The answer is no, yeah. No. It's not my fault gets them. Getting more Twitter, followers writes, right. The need to market yourself better. But we were careful in there to not go after somebody's character. Like if there are few names that's not stop lane. I got I got to be calm. The problem with like outdo conferences, and like with all these guys or like DC to the we like a DC talk. I roasted them at the. But they were there like if I was gonna roast you wouldn't be like if like if I have jokes about you. And then my somebody told me like, hey cameras coming to the show tonight. If I would take that joke out that I should not be saying that anyway, Bri the true. Bri the say, and if we roast each other all the time on the bus, I do that's frigging. Larry's, but it's not like the Jolo sting jokes. Have he knows I tell him, and he sees he thinks hilarious. He has a good sense of he does which makes me so happy. Yeah. Like, dude, that's like an Andy Stanley great sense of humor, you can like roast him. But there's certain people that and you've danced on the line before like the pastor fancy draft. We're being overly complementary. You know, oh, we have great numbers sarcastic. But it's also nice or like the Christian music record deal. It's a little more pointed an eighty Stu. Week after that came out you did some festival with all of them. Got some kind of like, I stay in my own green room. So people are like dude, we love you solve do or huge fans or like people just keep their. Yeah. He said more water. That's not offensive. I mean, but isn't like the revolving doors news a little. I don't know. Today. What do you think about this like people we all talk about like haters on the internet like like you at some point or me or you have been the hater. Yes, you have internet. He's basketball games. That's true. That's come out as critical of some you are to them to them not to. Hater of their new book or their right? If you give a bad review, write some of this critical of my comedy, or by or me as a person is a, but then I realized oh, wait, I might also be used to have a Mike the hater. You're like if you hate on Papa John's or something, they're they're social media teams. Like who's this guy with the blue check park gate? You wouldn't consider yourself that John's hater, no or? Yeah. Or like into and consider yourself a hater on the internet. I hear you're saying, you know, what I'm saying. We've just keep workshop in this. You're going to get there. I was still and dust inter Aaron it'd be like I thought I had a great set. And it'd be like, hey, where did you think he lost them? Right back. Atypical Thursday night crowd at what? Really proud of myself. Oh, man. I am curious. So like the life of a standup. I mean, you guys have a it's like a a grind that never stops. You have to keep feeding the beast. You can't get off the wheel. Now can't get off. Because you can't like, you know, cash out and do your movie and get that, you know, twenty million dollar pay day and just kinda ride it you got it like book the next gig. Is it exhausting? The think about the next thirty years of your life in having now. Like it. I don't let the travel, and maybe that kind of stuff is like a lot. But like I live. I live. I live for. Yeah. Yeah. I live. So you're doing your dream right now. One hundred percent because it will. We're talking about making a like a like a key impeach type Chapelle type show put on TV like comedy central. And he goes, dude, you're taking a gigantic step back 'cause your video like you're gonna build that platform. He's like Cohn and gets two hundred fifty thousand views. Yeah. If I was like, why would we why would you think all these bits? And then right there were like Osgood. Now the advertising money hasn't come to the internet yet. Right. But when it does then right? Why would you? I'm worried about people see in the videos, not so much money from them like we need to because that's how we feel right? Yeah. Yeah. So that's cool. I mean, a lot of people a lot of people kind of. If you don't have observed, you don't do the stand up thing or the, you know, they do a speaking gig at a conference because they kind of have to say we're like to write books whenever whenever they right. The other thing. But you're you're doing that thing that you wanted awesome. Yeah. When yeah. A hundred percent it's like it. You like like you got a new jokes? You're like, man. I like I thought of a bit like this week. Here's the thing that never do to someone when you wake up in the morning never tech someone and tell them they were in your dream. Just never do that dream about someone and then text them. Yeah. Don't ever thinking of a bit like, I should work. Like when is it ever worked out? Well for you. This is someone you haven't talked to in a year and a half. Hey, what's up, man? You're my dream. Hey, don't what happened in it? Sorry for texting. How do you? How do you have a normal life being on the road all the time? Like, I mean, how do you have like friends, family and? Or do you just bring your friends out on tour? Now, it is bring my buddies on the real. I mean, we're we're all we all stay together. We leave Wednesday nine we come back. I mean, the tour is only like three months, right? I mean, you're doing another one. Yeah. Then they're not got like three months off. And then I'll do another one. So how do you have any sense of normalcy? I mean, I guess how do you serve at your local church on. Oh god. Yeah. I do every Sunday giant, actually, I this isn't it's not working on for me. And. So let's. Are you a sad clown? Are you making any laugh too? Pain. Ran to protect here. Keep going. Yeah. Yeah. I'd say sad. But it Yeah. It's like people like a lot of times, they would Email, and they'll be like, hey, you know, I'm going through chemo or divorce or whatever. And you're you're you're bit your jokes was girl messaged, and she goes, hey, my parents fight a lot verbally abusive. And when they are I go to my room and put on my headphones and watch your, and it does the same thing to me that it does go to go make them because you can go to DisneyWorld turn on your camera and become this guy that is acting out this thing I could be with Erin, and I'm this past. I'm doing a scape. Scape for my own life too. Yeah. Anyway, not to get to serious. I mean, most I mean, I don't know y'all's world the comedy world is is something that I love. But I'm not part of when you learn more about the stories of some of the top comics people giving their life to that. Yeah. From a place of deeds have literally given their life saying a lot of like a lot of a lot of comics commit suicide depressed. But a lot of everyone is depressed. A lot of counts are depressed. They're not verbal at. You're not hearing from you know, what I'm saying comics, true, whatever is on the services like what we are discussing their jokes. But they're not you come to show. There isn't it's not jokes. I mean, it is jokes. But it's it's like comes from real places. I think a big part of that to the lifestyle as far as I mean, you're in the one percent of comics now with a bus tour, but most people, you know, in a band you travel around the little community or here you have community now. But normally learn around as the that was out there seven for seven years later. Land. I came by myself. Yeah. I came by Johnson town, Jared smoky bars, you don't know anybody's. He just the bargain your hotel. It's and your Christians I drink alone now in the bar in. Sunglasses in this mustache again to go. Feel obviously because you have a very like a public persona. That's very funny people probably expect that from you twenty four hours a day. They don't want that mask to drops when they meet you. They want more of the same. They went on staff. Well, that that's what makes it hard to like date. I think because like I like Bill Simmons is like I love his podcast size. Saw him in the airport. I went up to like, dude. What's up, dude? How's your daughter's soccer game? Like, it was crazy. And he was like, whoa. To like, I don't know. And I was like, oh, I just did the thing to you that people do to me. Whereas if they've Lou they've been listening to you for five years, they see you at seven eleven yo camera. What's up dude last week? And then you're like, I don't so a girl would be like, hey, I like, I think I like. Like feelings for you for, but you've been cultivating a relationship with me on the internet for four years and every day Instagram stories, and so you you create this fake fake. But they think they like like you. But they don't know the real me. You know, what I'm saying inside hard? You're you're not joking. Right. You're not. Oh, no. Which has been making me lay. Joy this joke. For me. Go ahead. Yeah. I was I would probably say this. I don't know if this is sad or not. But like the the top ten best moments of my life, probably six or seven of them have been on a stage in a comedy show. Yeah. Is it like a drug that keeps you coming back? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can take time off. But like you think about like if I'm at my apartment complex back home, just like a dude getting the mail and taking out the trash. Right. But then out here. I'm like a. Your face down semi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what do we do if you park the semi in your apartment complex parking lot that then it changes everything this keep it there. I. Yeah. That's then flames feeding semis. Our I sorry for prion. I honestly like I've talked about this number one, your your life and career is changed a lot in last three years. And I mean, you're grinding for a long time. But then when I first came on the realme podcast my careers. That was the difference maker. Well, it did coincide with your fourteen just saying I'm just saying that was that was right. When you had I think it was the music the music. Put me on the map. Yeah. That one. And and then you started selling bigger and like it really did. That was literally when you started to kick off. And now you're at another level again. And I'm always curious to see how my friends are doing with life changes so rapidly like you get kind of swept up in the end at all. And and you know, the industry can you up and spit you out. Yeah. Yeah. It's like are you doing the thing that makes you happy or are you doing because people are telling you you have one hundred percent, but I'm like like aware that like yo this like like, we're like they like long this long term plan to like grow you into agents and managers, that's all well and good. But like this could also all be over tomorrow right now only as good as your next thing. Listen, the fact is the audience is fickle, and they could go. Okay. We figured out his stick. Okay. That was fun. And now we're gonna move onto new stick a new person or or like like, I don't want to be a Jeff foxworthy. Doing the same shows. All right. There's these comics are like they got one thing. And it's like once you get the bit you move on the guy with the puppet the guy with the. Yeah. Yeah. You don't wanna know even house a big empty house fill with kids because you're on the road alone. As the comedian. That makes me laugh, but it's it's to true. Yeah. Well, I said like to like in meetings. I we as a comic if you're going to stick close to the truth. You have I'm literally mortgaging my career every video right, right? Everyone like this. Because if this could be the end. Yeah. So like the pastor like the I thought, and it's usually this could be the end are is the biggest ones. So you guys you with that thought in mind, you wanna do the bro basketball shootout? That was the one I was like risk it off. They come us. This idea the the walk down the street and frisbees or start hitting you. Where are they coming from? They were like Christian music when I was like, we need them to promote shows, and they we work very closely with Kayla. We, but like the hand that feeds you. By the hand that feeds you quite this could be the end little Nivel win is. Doing Strang audience is just crossed the joy Strang line. He's not fun anymore. He's a all right. So so we. So we like we went out to in Nashville. I went downtown. This is a couple nights ago like. We're like having a drink downtown on Broadway. There was a bunch of people in there. Like, John what's up, dude? We're so happy you're here. Like, dude, we didn't like no one was getting crazy. We're just sitting down there or having a drink amazing. We love you do work so excited you come down here and hang out credit. I didn't know that. Like, we didn't know what kind of guy you words, Sommese. And then you also get like a like an Instagram message. Like, hey did. I thought you were like a Christian, and I saw you like drinking at at out in public. And I was like if if if that is your like conviction awesome. Let's just partways. Now. You know what I'm saying? Like like, I'm good like if you like we have jokes that are in every video like that one was across the line in every every comment section like, hey, we can I'm good with you parting here. I'm not mad at you for being like, I'm not mad at at like the church or I'm not angry. I, you know, I love the local church at the local churches are only hope that being said, we do some weird stuff. But I. I think there's other voices in our faith that cross the line. So who is the judge of the line, right? Right. Sure. Sure. I don't know. Well, and also I mean with the some of the Christian community, right? Like, you can write a piece about social Justice for a major publication that explores the intersection of faith in culture plea slide. All right. Just hypothetically. It. It's a hard market, man. Do you read the comments? Time why because usually on him. So I'm good. If you if you if you've ever like like, I've I've roast myself more than anyone else. Like, I'm always like trashing on my own like re tweeting thing well done or like, you know, what I'm saying. Because like it's very disarming like, yeah. He's roasting. Nobody also doesn't think he's the man. He also like this is ridiculous that we have this bus and this. This is stupid. You know what I'm saying? It's not like, I'm like, yeah. This is why I got to the top because I'm making fun of everybody else. Am I get it? I don't in the show. Like, I'm like, dull isn't anything? I'm talking about. I don't know. I'm an idiot. Like don't follow me. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's kind of very like, I'm an idiot. Does a pastor rate. Are they proud of you? Yeah. Extremely now out of so many shows the same show over and over. They do they come out. They come on that will now that I'm successful. My mom is never once visited this office. Hang joy, joy, joy joy. She's not gonna hear this Joshi's. Never listen to this show. She's never at her magazine. She true. It's absolutely true. Wonder she told me. He won't come to this office. Because it's so far. She didn't like coming downtown. The venue tonight is past downtown. He's going further than the relevant office to see you a convenient thing to say are you going to see her there? You're gonna look at her. Slipped under own. Yeah. He's he's sent whether I wherever you gotta be ticket. Do you want me to put you in a good word on the show or something? Rush out change things. I would say the because Adam gave her listen Corollas, pumpkin. He talks a lot about the same thing about his parents have no idea about no idea books podcast. No idea at all like, you know, he'd have like Barbra Streisand on and then they'll be like, oh what early whoever whoever is the they just a lot of like repairs. Proud of you, even though you're you're mocking everything they stand for now they live for it. Funny. My dad's funny. Okay, got it. Yeah. Yeah. I just kinda took it to the next level. But he would growing up. He was like little always is always roasted people. Yeah. That's good for pastor stage. I think you is interesting Sunday experience when he was wasn't rose. It wasn't doing that stage. I took I started that. But he was always in life. It's like really that's what you're gonna wear today. First thing. On this stage. Look at that fat one in the front now, sir. Yeah. Marge really this week. This week. Just starting with crowd work. Fifteen minutes getting a more. I should do that go to sit in the back. I don't wanna get roast. Hey, all right. This is fun. We have a quick game. Listen to broods song is peach at the beginning of the podcast. You heard James Bay with his new one pink lemonade. Okay. It is time for a game. I have no idea what we're doing Tyler Huckabee take it away. All right, guys. This game is called pure flexes for real. Here's what's going to happen. I'm going to read you the title of a real pure flix movie. I'm going to read three plot. Synopses one of these is the real Oxus and the other two are fake you which one is the correct one. We did this last time. Did a similar still mentioned that to me, and it was like metal music or Christian band are the secular band to pick the Christian, man. This is. Well, what it was? It was something about like the end times movie or or metal band nailed all of them. Yeah. Yeah. We get tripped up here stake in this front keep the streak alive. Here we go. Don't don't don't put your first pure flix guy. Go Aaron you go first. Okay. So this movie this mystery of movie is called me again. All right, C, three Synopsys one of these is true. From the outside looking in rich chaplain has everything that any pastor and family man could ever want. However in reality, he has lost sight of everything that matters most it's pastor chaplain. His name rich chaplain. This is. Amazing so hokey that it gives it away or it might be. Hey, crippled dollars real thing. All right after a horse riding accident ruins the promising ice skating career of joy Leveson. She learns her true value. Tinning friendship with a mysterious pastor and family man, joy love sent no way. No way that one. All seems lost. When pastor and family man, Ken, Christian men loses. One of these names is for real. This memory loss. Punto surprising, new knowledge. What matters most. It's what's the title the movie again me again starring Doug heaven church. I'm gonna go with Chaplin. You are correct. Real name most realistic name. Shoot a switch chaplain. The to be that Chaplin should have been the and harder. Start. I'll still switch to who's who's true. All right. This one is called in the blink of an eye. Okay. A passer and family man lose sight in a skiing accident but gains newfound insight into the things that matter most. All right. It's not that. I don't know. Blink of an police. Detectives save a pop star her manager invites them for a weakened in Mexico on his yacht. But the perfect vacation turns to terror when his wife and friends go missing and the police detective must learn new lesson about the things that matter most. Ooh. Oh. Budget wise. I don't think they're in Mexico. Hold on. We watch their soap opera Hilton Head island. We watched it entire Christian soap opera was filmed on a green screen. So if they were in an office, it was green if they were in the living room, it was they had like an actual chair. And then the rest of the ornate room was agreeing. You could tell the entire thing do this movie, and you can Mexico a little orange. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One. Clive Lewis has everything a pastern family man could ever want. Family, man. But when his blind wife miraculously receives her eyes site, oh, he realizes what he's been missing all alone. May just be what matters most. Did. I oughta go toward that one because he would not make that kind of name up because your names are throwing you off. I feel like guys name Louis. Hey seuss. Holy man. I'm going to go with three. Oh, I'm sorry. The police detective on the next. Yacht. So action packed. Flakes just for that didn't watch it. But I think what I think the gist of it is that his wife and daughter were raptured. It's like a rapture situation. Twitter's missing vantage read that read it has a plot twist in the back pocket for any move or action. Yes. Standing Nystrom Alon moment and every rapture. Yeah. They were after detective save a pop star. Her manager invites them for a weekend in Mexico on his yacht. But the perfect weekend turns to tear when his wife had friends, go missing. And he must learn a new lesson about what matters most pops. I'm telling you, that's a very secular plotline for your veins. All right next to more. We'll get book all this. And then we'll be done with it. This one is called is this going to you earn? Yeah. Yeah. All right. This one is called birdie and bogey. Maybe read her damages for it. You guys can you tell they're going to golf right after they record this air both dressed in their golf gear. You're all right. Invite any of us the quarters. If you've probably got a good read on basic, like the fanatic tension read this off I like to go. Yeah. Twelve year old gets cancer becomes a fighter not only for herself. But her father as well. It will tear the faith of both of them and their mother as well. So no Goff just cancer. Wow. Knicks oddly, titled Kanter movie. The next one after winning the PGA tournament a pastor family man and go through all this learns to start playing for what really mad. The pastor this. First of all the pastor could never be a PG, it's fulltime shop. That's does not by vocation. I mean vacation tip maker. Tip mater, homey, next. After a horse, right? He accident ruins his promising golf career as a testament learns that God's plan. Positive for the name from now on God's plan is much more than par for the course. No, man. All right. Congrats on writing that last one. But it's got to be the middle. The second one has the PGA tournament ones. I'm sorry. It's actually the kids. Cents. Children have cancer. If if you're. Touchdown about muscular dystrophy. All right. All right. If you John if you get this one, then you'll you'll end in a tie. No. It's not true ends. And if it starts pastor and family. Not accurate. All right. So this movie is called it starts with an ellipse dot dot dot. What if oh, right? No, Chris, no context losers. It a comedy. Anything? Country of origin. Please. Can you use it in his sentence? All right. Steven rock has been accepted to two schools. A secular liberal arts school in New York City. Yeah. Like ZIM bible college nearby. The cusp of the deadline for his decision. He is visited by a mysterious old man who shows him to two very different pads. This movie. That's amazing. I hope that is a movie. Okay. All right. Got it. It's my life me. Okay. After she dies. Mary paradise is shown that. The life may have been a waste. Small acts of kindness. You left behind have left a legacy beyond her wildest imagining can see that being legit to what if. Stephen rock Mary paradise keeping finally fifteen years ago. Ben Walker left his girlfriend and his ministry calling for a business opportunity now with a high paying career and trophy fiancee. He is visited by an angel who gives him a glimpse into what his life would look like had. He followed his calling as a pastor and family man, and he's just like. All three of those. Do on. Goes faster and family. I like the pastor, but it is not really a family, man. Like. Yeah. Pastor and businessman. Passer for I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with a. Even rock rock. Yeah, for I'm sorry. The answer was or visited by the angel. One looked like if you've followed his calling as a pastor over to Aaron Winter flicks man, do you really should man. That's that's that's good stuff. This might be on the head. This find be when the joy of joys demographic moves on it. Yeah. They're like, hey, listen, we loved you over to the peer flick. Good. We know we know what you're about to be honest to spec. Scripts that I've been sitting on for a while. Anyway, what do you think about these though you watch them now? Right for sure you John Chris doors? All right, guys off fun. Okay. Stay tuned up next at the end of the show, we're doing slices, folks. Does. It can be hard to figure out fair pay for church staff. All too often. It's subjective. Which is why we created church salary. A new online tool that helps churches determined fair pay levels with church salary. You can quickly determine a fair salary for any role evaluate the impact church location may have on pay and generate informative reports for each position in your church. Leave the guesswork behind when it comes to determining pay visit church salary dot com today. You're listening to the marinas anti-afghan song is dripped. Okay. This is weird. This is the first license I've ever done in fifteen years without Jesse. Carey is it to listen this. Yeah. This is a two person slices. This is folks this news at you're about to hear is so important. We could not miss the segment. So here it is slices. What do you have Tyler? Okay. So I had you guys ever came in. You do a lot of online shopping have you ever purchased sites just two sites? Amazon Nike, but have you ever shopping Amazon. A Nike have you ever gotten boss upping Republic about it? And then either it comes in. It wasn't what you thought it was going to be or you're like, I don't remember ordering this at all of both have been really and regularly happen, absolutely. Dude at the two AM Instagram scroll Nike as a new it says shop now click click and then three days later box shows up. I'm like, oh, I don't remember all these late at night. And you're like I like those shoes. Yeah. So louis. Well, this view you you'll be able to relate. But the plight of the gentlemen, we're talking about today apparently recently over in China there is a day that they call singles day. It's like a black Friday over here. I don't know why they call it singles day that kind of alludes system really dark things about how we use the shopping to scratch niche that we can only be met by having someone you love and care about nearby, but it's called singles day. Wow. And really really went down the path. I had I had not altogether. But good good thinking about this Leisa lot have been working on it. It's been a couple of days. Now, there's a guy who who's identified he posted this on Wego, which is just China's largest social media site. And he said in the early hours of yesterday morning when I was he says he's been doing some drinking. I clicked on tau and started shopping all alone. I thought I had only two sets of clothes. The man wrote. And then he decided to go in and check and see what time is close. We're going to arrive. I suddenly realize I remembered to look up at the delivery day of my clothes, and I realized that he had bought in addition to his two sets of clothes a live pig. Nice peacock perfect and something called an animal. I've never heard of called, but I can picture called a giant salamander? No returns. You can't get rid of 'em. They're on the way to to his home. So he is now a pet owner with three pets a pig. A peacock and a salamander I think this is a blessing in disguise because if you are allowed to actually I don't know what the cost is an obvious could be sort of cost per hit. Like, it could be I feel like a peacock is probably expensive. But now you have instant conversation pieces when people come over to your house that the clothing definitely couldn't provide. And I think if I were to intentionally go out to like by myself these animals, but if I accidentally did I'd consider that to be like, okay, I think that's just fate now. 'cause I think it'd be a cool thing to have in your house. Yeah. I mean, what do you actually do when it shows up because there is a? Problem here. Right. It's not like you can just feel like right in this line for awhile like. Right away. All right. I'm just letting this thing wander into the streets. This is this is basically the same predicament new parents face, right? So we're coming home from the hospital. Oh, we have to keep it alive. Yeah. Like, I was gonna go chill. But now, this thing's crying again to the case of maybe the peacock potentially. You would have sort of a like an emotional bond at your like, let's beautiful animal endangered species. I gotta take care of it. I can't let it go the pig depending on the person would maybe feel like a bond for the pig. The salamander, I don't know, man. That would be would maybe draw the line salamanders lizards just exist. This'll be fine. I gotta tell you peacocks kinda mean to like the pig. They, you know, they're they're big. But they're not like dirty by nature that dirty to keep cool. And that they're kind of nice. So lot of pigs are Nike pigs. That's not a. None of it's convenient. But I feel like the immediately is like all right. This thing is pecking at my legs as I walk around my own house. Eddie, you lived in Orlando, Florida, it we're famous the the bungalow neighborhoods surrounding downtown have have have free range, roaming, peacocks going on the place. Yeah. Yeah, they're beautiful. They're just let it go nature works itself out, man. I'm fine. You would say if you can only keep one you gotta cap you gotta let go to you say the pig. I think so because I don't really understand salamander care. But I believe that they need some sort of moisture, and I don't want that thing in the bathtub. Yeah. Just let it go outside. Yeah. Peacock gonna pick you to death. I feel like well. Okay. I pig. Here's just a big bowl of like whatever I used to put it in my compost pile now just put it in my piggy pie. The this is the problem in south Florida though in the Everglades run with boa, constrictors and other other. What were pets? People can't take care of the pet. They drive out to the dump it in nature. We'll take care of itself. There's no natural predators to the to the pythons and the pythons Anaconda, and the bow constrictors have bread and proliferated and killed the ecosystem down there. So basically, you're going to kill China's ecosystem if you let that salamander loose is really really messed up your creating this whole this whole race of super snakes. Like G marine ecosystem. That's like we can't stop. It is a terrible terrible place. We we have it in us to really really mess up a good part of the planet. My other question, though, is just a pure like maybe over simplification of the point you're trying to get to. But how do you ship these animals? I mean, they just in a crate with a whole. I mean, what what UPS person is walking up with like a big, you know, pig on Dali or something. How does this have vol China way? Less government regulation, we have here. So. Government's not involved at all in their lives. We let's red tape. I have a feeling that China the red tape like extends to certain parts of it. You know, it's almost too much or whatever people don't really care about animals. They're like what all adults out there. Right, right. I'm stepping in for Jesse Kerry here as the libertarian adults here ship your own animals. So they went to get it somewhere else. Then. You can wrap it up in bubble tape and put a postage sticker on and they'll find a way to get a little head poking out the top so breathe and hope for the best. I bet. Somebody listening to this podcast has pig for a pet like now percents pig walking around the house percent otaly a little pot belly cute. Yeah. They're kinda cute. They're clean. Pets. Yeah. Why not get one right now? President Xinua pet right now on Amazon. All right. What have any? Well, this is going to be kind of a two parter because but the second part is going to have to resolve later because we are in the midst of probably one of the greatest Christmas mysteries ever fifty years ago. Canadian man, and I am sorry that he's Canadian. But also this could only happen in Canada. Fifty years ago a Canadian man got a gift from his then girlfriend for Christmas. Adrienne Pierce is the fella's name and in nineteen seventy when he was seventeen years old his girlfriend gave him this Christmas present just before dumping him. So apparently sometime between the giving of the gift, and what would have been Christmas day opening of the gift he gets dumped. So what does this guy? Do. What would we do with the gift? We just get rid of it or you open it up real quick. And be like, okay. Well, at least I got a wallet out of the deal or something like that. Right. But this guy in a move that. I'm sure that we will dissect pretty carefully here in just a moment. This guy never opens the gift. And in addition for the next fifty years puts it under his tree every year on opened waiting now. What is he waiting for? We don't know. There's this whole conversation about wide if this guy do it. But he said that finally this year after fifty years he is going to open it up the woman who. He dated and both of them have gone on to like be married have lives. They haven't linked pine for each other. It's just kind of a weird thing. The woman said, I don't even know what I got him. I barely remember. The guy was just like a high school crush for like around Christmas time. And so now they're going to finally open it, and it was like it's going to be like a whole thing. He's gonna like reveal it online. And the story went viral to see what happened fifty years later. My question for you is what kind of person Lea how weird is it every year explain to your wife like, so you're you're you're putting her gift under the tree again. What is it that you're hoping for and I guess, I mean, you gotta just think. Well, the guy was longing for her. Right. What a weird thing. How do you handle? That is the wife. How do you not like the bed one discharge it? Right because like your one, right? Maybe it's like a funny, but like it starts to like go through waves of Andy Kaufman esque humor, where it's this isn't funny anymore. This is a man and you're doing the video about it. Yeah. This hurtful people had a hard time getting over getting over people. That's that's understandable. And I understand not wanting to like throw a get like y'all wanna dump it in the garbage sentimental person. I can understand that. But but that's like a that's the first two weeks. Right. That's like that's like getting your your beloved pet Taxidermied. And you still like holding your Latin every night, and you know, especially if you've moved on, right, quote, unquote. So the big thing is on December sixth which is not too long from now there's going to be an event to unwrap it, but the caveat to it is, and this is where you just know this guy loved that girl. He only the event will happen. And the gift will only be unwrapped if the woman who gave. A to them who was then a girl the girl who gave it to him shows up to unwrap the gift if not his wife, unwrap it. Right. So. Like, I read this story going on here. Clicked through all of the source material just to try to get Lincoln from the guy where he says like, yeah, I just weird sense of humor. And I always thought it was funny. There's none of that. It is just like messed up and telling my wife this plan. Honey, I've got a great Christmas idea for us. Yeah. This is what's going to happen? I still have. Okay. So I still have this gift from a from a girl. I haven't seen in fifty fifty forty nine to be completely accurate. It's like forty nine years. It will be in. And we're gonna have a little game. Right. You and me where I pit you two against each other the seed to like have some sort of weird to satiate my Christmas hunger games fantasy. This is. We're already into this. We should know about this stuff. This should be read it through that. And then people even rented are like, dude, you gotta walk back from the ledge man, you're very happy thing going who cares? And this woman who has lived a full life. The woman who gave him a gift full life. She's almost seventy rate should fifty sixty seven sixty eight years old live this whole life has to say to her husband. Hey, listen. Here's what's going on man lake fifty years ago dated this weird guy. And now, there's this whole internet thing happening and people are talking about it. So I'm gonna go unwrap the gift on a web Cam. So I mean, there's just no way. This doesn't isn't just layers of weird. Yeah. Where where where's this happening? What what town December six somewhere in Canada? So it's just going to be very, okay. So Canada, so Canadians. So what else Canadians have a weird sense of humor? We have a lot of Canadian listeners because of that fact, so we appreciate so so is the guy doing it to be funny or is he just kind of mentally disturbed. There's not a lot of data there for that. I think he I think part of it is that the video of him talking about it last year went viral. And so, you know, when that happens people lose their their sense of normal. It went from weird to the like that guy can't be trusted. It seems like maybe a bit of a sense of humor. But it also is like at the end of the day you're going to like it's not year forty eight that bothers me about the gift. It's year seven who like thirty four was like just the middle years where this is just a you Justice attic and say that it some point. Okay. Here's what I would allow this wouldn't happen in my marriage for sure about maybe somebody's marriage. Whereas because kind of a joke like these. Bill presence been here every year. And isn't it funny that he's still some girl that we don't even know? But then to make it into to take it to the point where now there's competition that that then that even excuses out of the water. Yeah, we need. This is where we feel the presence of any being missed. I need to understand the female perspective on this. Because I'm I'm also not gonna follow up on this. An anti would also follow up on this. I'm not going to pay attention to it. As soon as we hit stop today, poof out of my mind. So you guys are going to have to really hold onto this story. And give us updates about. What happens and if you're in Canada, and you can find the location and be kind of insert yourself in this story that would make us just extremely proud. Stop it into it saves somebody's save somebody's marriage for all, you know. That's right. So merry Christmas. Everyone happy black Friday. That was that's a weird one in it. I well that'll do. A for minutes or slices. Stay tuned of next rep things up. Listening to J P Saxon, Charlotte Lawrence song is the few things that is unbelievable. Hey, well, I just wanted to thank our guests for join us say, John Chris and Aaron tuning they are out on tour right now. Go check out the the show. It's it's going to be a lot of fun. You can follow them on Twitter at John Crist. 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REShow: JJ Watt and Doug Ellin. Hour 3 (02-05-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

43:02 min | 1 year ago

REShow: JJ Watt and Doug Ellin. Hour 3 (02-05-20)

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HBO's entourage from back. In the day he'll be joining us here. We've been communicating with them on our richeisenshow instagram page and stuff like that. Hey Doug come on man. It's been awhile since I've seen just a nice chat with him back in our green room joining US shortly. The parades going nuts in Kansas city. The speechifying has begun. I told Travis Kelsey I believe in him. I believe he's GonNa top his brothers big moment from Philadelphia couple years ago because you know brothers draft top each other as the as our next guest quite knows. How do I introduce this guy live from Houston? It's Wednesday afternoon it is fresh off his fantastic. SNL hosting appearance he is perennial Pro Bowler Future Hall of Famer. Jj Watt out here on the show how are you JJ rich. I'm good I want to say that was a beautiful segue. Appreciate brothers over to me so that was great. You know what j j just just got to bring my A.. Game with you as a matter of fact I will describe to you what I'm doing. I'm removing my richeisenshow Coffee Mug here and I am replacing racing it and honor of you calling in with you on one side of a Mug celebrating. What appears to be a sack from your Wisconsin? Days and the final score. Four of this year's Wisconsin Michigan game at saying this Cup holds rich Eisen tears. So I'm doing just well-designed Just glad glad to see it on the air. I appreciate you know what Jayjay it's just a it's just An unfortunate development but it is one that I own and it's also proof that you've got not the comedy chops that's why you got the call from SNL. That's why you got that call. They did say that they thought that was the final factor. Santa Dan. I'm factor was a factor in this whole thing. You're back thank you and the poll you. I appreciate that I appreciate that. When did you first get that call from from NBC A couple of weeks back And I mean it was. I mean it's it's such exciting icon show and I grew up in Wisconsin Chris Farley and his bits and skits and I mean Matt Foley Motivational. They should be just legendary stuff and so for me to be able to go there and to see everything and they showed me some of the old farley stuff and some little he had written something on a wall there that they show him in it was just. It was a really really cool experience. Can you Repeat what he wrote on wall that just has to stay he no he there are. They showed me that. When you're doing the show you're literally sprinting? From place to place like quick changes and dress changes and all that and there's one area area where if you don't duck if you're over six feet tall and you don't duck you will absolutely rock. And they said that Farley used to hit it over over and over and over because he just he would be spending. It didn't know. So they put like this big pad with like bright colors and everything and he wrote on their four or Farley because it was for him specifically and so they showed me that and it was really cool. And it probably helped you with all that I mean again. We're we're we're stolen scrolling through some stills from your appearance you made many changes many whigs there seemed to be some some makeup involved as well. Well I mean I walk me through credible that yeah so so obviously. During the week you get fitted for a wigs. All all your wigs. They make basically a full bold of your head and then they build the whigs off that mold and then for me for the big foot sketch were that we put prosthetics on my face going. And you'll get a full mold of your face made Kinda like when you get a teeth moulded Dennis when they put that stuff in your mouth. Yeah To form against their teeth they do that. But with your the whole face and then they build that during the show it truly is crazy or like I said you're sprinting from place to place and as soon as you get to a quick change location you just put your arms arms about put your legs out there. Three people just ripping clothes off viewpoint. Throwing new clothes on you wigs are flying. It's it's insane So I imagine O.. J. J. Watt here on the rich Eisen show. I imagine though the toughest thing for you was that monologue what I would that be the Safest assumption or what to get out there and just say as far as the writing of it goes that was definitely something that we spent a lot of time on just because for me I wanted it to be as much in my voice in in my comfort level is i. I felt. We could make 'em so obviously early in the week they don't. I know me that well. I don't know them that. Well we're trying to write something funny and good together without knowing each other that well as we goes on if you saw the monologue from Wednesday and then you saw what was on Saturday night. And they don't look even recognizable to each other and so I think that was my biggest thing I always said even if the monologue hops or does do good or anything at least wanNA feel comfortable with and have it be in my voice. I feel like we got to a really good place on Saturday night with and I was very happy with well during Super Bowl Week. I had Dion Sanders on on my show down to Miami and I asked him what advice would you give. Jj Watt for hosting Saturday. Night live. Because you know he did it. He did a way back in the day and and he said to that that you're going to have a lot of ideas pitched at you and you've got to be comfortable with the ones that you do which was the one that you're most? I guess comfortable doing all the ideas that we actually saw on television the J. But one the one that I immediately when they pitched it on I think it was Tuesday that I knew it was gonna be gold was the rudy skit Robbie Rudy. I mean I grew up watching rudy as one of my favorite movies of all time. I hardly loved it I chronic and then when they pitched it and we just I started flowing with the jokes and we start going through what the dialogue could look like in a janitor and five foot nothing it was just I was like this is going to be golden I mean and the best part about it is again. You're you're the guy that refuses to let the coach. Use The guys inspiration. You're just standing there pointing out. We cannot go on the field with this guy. There's just actors are so funny and Keenan whenever he says anything is hilarious. It was so much fun fun and so what did you say I just can't do. Can you tell me what wound up on the cutting room floor. Jj there really wasn't a ton so like the interesting part about is cutting room floor so on Wednesday you read through forty five scripts. They forty five full scripts. You do a full table. Read through with the whole cast and everybody in the room right and then you chopped down to eleven and then you take eleven to the full dress rehearsal on Saturday night two hours before the actual show and then after that so you have an hour and a half between the dress rehearsal on the actual show you cut that eleven eleven down to like eight. So it's just it is truly wild. How much happens? And what goes on so like One that got cut that that we caught right after the dress before the show was It was just like a cabaret bar and I ended up on stage singing They probably cut it because my absolutely horrendous michaels which thankfully nobody had to hear that besides in the frozen skate when I when I saying a little bit it's the whole process is truly incredible. How quickly they turn things around? How quickly and calmly they make decisions and no no amount of time? It's unbelievable and then they got to do it again. I mean it's kind of I mean in a way that's like a foot football season right. It's it's one. It's a one week preparation for in your case. Three three and three hours maybe three and a half for them whether I guess where the dress rehearsal. There's like three hours and then and you okay. That's done. Let's do it again in some believable. It's it's so similar and it's really impressive so it all builds up just like you said you start on Monday and you build up you prepare you you right now. You read your scripts just like studying playbook and then you're building up towards one live event with a real audience with pressure on the line with having to make changes and having get your lines and there's all these people you know. Hundreds of people backstage gas shifting sets and moving stuff. It's literally if one person screws up it screws. There's up the whole teams right just like sports and I was talking to like the the some of the guys behind the scenes and they were like. We've we've been doing this for twenty plus years and the adrenaline adrenaline. That you get on Saturday night reminds me of when I played high school football when I played you know. So it's it's very similar in that aspect where you're part of a team and you get the adrenaline rush and the really many places you can get that. Jj Watt here on the rich Eisen show and then when it's all over this one I've been to I've been in. SNL Laughter Party. That can go all night. So did you hit. Did you hit that too and like stay out three four in the morning. That sort of thing. You hit that absolutely absolutely. I told myself when I booked it I was like listen. I'm GonNa do it right. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa do everything I'm GonNa let it loose and I'm GonNa do the after Party and I have not stay up until I think we got back to my hotel room like five thirty. Am Yeah I HAVE NOT STAYED UP LA in long long time but well well worth it as you know like. You said you've into one. It's just the fun you have the stories that are going around. It's just it's a blast and then there's others who weren't I guess part of the broadcast show up. Did anybody so you got any names that people that just showed up and hung out. I'm not a big namedrop already. Dropped her name to get the Gig John. Jj that's that's next level right there. I appreciate that we just WANNA I. Don't WanNa just WANNA get in the behind the velvet ropes with the JJ. That's all you know just trying to get that I mean but you gotta get behind rope good did you. I guess recuperating time to watch the Super Bowl did you take that game in JJ. So I I flew back to Houston on Sunday so I was flying during pretty much the first half so I got back to my house sometime in the second half and I caught I caught the ending of it got fourth quarter so I got to see that. So what do you think of the narrative that the niners she to run more. I guess you're you're probably hearing all the all the the second guessing of it. What what did you think of the ending and and somebody who's been on If you will the the wrong wrong end of a of a of a mahomes run Or in a way knowing how uneven flow of a game just works out the way it just works out. I wonder what your two cents on the subject. Are I mean I. I've always had this. You you know as an athlete and as you play stuff. It's it is so easy to say what you should have have done or even when you're sitting at home watching the game as happening what you should do in this situation. How team should play? The truth is nobody is out there. Unless you've unless you're a former coach or a former player who's been in that situation in that environment with that level of pressure on you and everything. I don't think anybody can sit here and say what you would have done what you wouldn't it done or how you should have played I'm sure they're doing that in their heads as they sit now A couple of days later I mean just like we did with our game a few weeks ago. You know you sit there and next couple well days you look at it and you're like what should we have done different. How could we have done what she even? Then you don't have the answers. I mean yeah should they have not given up points for instance should they have so much. I wish it broke down like that. And then the last one for you thought of you honors night when it saw last Campbell get up there the big man. He's going to have that patch on his chest. Now like you have Walter Payton Man of the year What's going on with you and your your works down there in Houston eastern that we can Know about get involved in all that good stuff. What do you got I I I WANNA say drastically. I texted him at night. He's truly deserving he's he's one of the great guys in the game and I love the way he plays. I love his attitude. I love seeing them every time. Whether it's the off season after the game he has such a big smile and he's just such sure great human being and a great guy. I'm very excited and honored to welcome into that fraternity because he truly does deserve it. with me The foundation is still still chugging along. I believe in Last month you know we just we give people updates as we go on on our twitter page on Hauer distributing the money and I think in the month of January we donated like a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to schools throughout the country. And we just keep going quarter-by-quarter and trying to help as many kids recant across the country. Jj happy when. I reached out to you when I heard you got. SNL I mean that is that's his. I mean that's the pinnacle brother I mean that is when you're you're a sports star and you're an athlete and you want to just have some fun and SNL reaches out to you. That's that's it. I mean that's amazing and you crushed it. So congrats congrats thank you. Thank you my friend. I appreciate your having me on and I'll be seventy wonderful okay So I can put this Mago. Can I just put it back. What do you think Yeah until the next time I need a big or you gotta. Jj It'll be right here and right here it'll be in the old mothballs. Hopefully for a long time take care of yourself. And we're GONNA right back at you that's. Jj Watt defensive in Houston Texas. That's awesome I can only imagine. Can you imagine what it's back there like around eleven forty five PM. You've just started in. It's going probably goes so fast. Asked right you all sudden it's over. I'll set it's one o'clock and then you go to that post game and then just five in the morning. It's usually some like swanky SPA SPA downtown. Here we go. I've been to one of those. That's when we set that up I went. I was Kind enough to be invited by. Hi The famed agent. James Baby Doll Dixon. Jon Stewart's night when he hosted and I saw and I watched it and then I went to the post this game and it was amazing. I'll never forget it. Jj didn't name job. You WanNA namedrop a fear. I mean Chris Rock I mean a lot of the members of their your alarm baseball show up. Just hang out. Sometimes you'll see them like in front of the camera at the end of the show. The wait a minute like that. They weren't on the show. They WANNA. SNL right so. I'm not afraid to name as you know. For instance Doug Allen is standing right over here and there is good to see Doug Allen how are you sir. I'm good I've I've well you are that sir. And the Creator writer producer. Serve entourage back in the day. It's been awhile since I've seen you. He's going to be joining us next to have some fun talking sports in Strolling Down Memory Lane. That's next on the rich Eisen. Show colleen tweaks. I'm Kevin McHale. Dan Adequate. We became best friends on the set of Glee. And now we're doing the glee recap podcast. You have been waiting for romantic each week. We'll take behind the scenes still all the glee tea and breakdown episodes from season one with former cast crew producers and writers that brought the show to life I think everyone needs a little no more tiny and their lives. Get new episodes of showman's every Thursday on spotify apple podcasts and PODCASTS ONE DOT com. Welcome back to the richeisenshow fun. Chat with J.. J. Watt right there and I turn to my right a guy I've known for for a while but I haven't seen in quite some time and when you're you're his name started popping up on our instagram feed. We're like let's get them in just a reconnect. These is a creator writer producer of the great hit series entourage. He is Doug Ellin get to see a sir. Thanks for having me. So let's get right into this. How how did how did entourage come to be? That was really Walberg story in a way. How did you get based His manager was my manager. Steve Levinson on what the college with came to me. Said we want to do a show about a movie star friends right. I hated the idea I I did. I thought it sounded ridiculous. And then Steve Levins and said to me is like you'll figure it out and I went home. I didn't really have job anyway. So I started thinking about it and Figured it out. So what didn't you like about the idea to begin with I you know I don't live that kind of like sycophantic lifestyle living with somebody else so I just didn't really see in what I what I took home to myself. figure out how to make it a family and give everybody some type of purpose driver the assistant whatever so right and so when did Walberg comment was he. There was always him to begin in the beginning. It was mark and Steve. They came to me so there really wasn't much of anything else to go on just like we wanted to show about a movie started as friends right and we started looking for Mark Guy which was impossible to find and ultimately it started shifting and I switched it to New York and started modeling modeling in a little bit on my friends. Also okay and so When was the first time you met Walberg? When was that well? I knew more for years before okay so it was the first time you met China. I think the first time I met him actually had dinner with him at a place called. Georgios somebody A friend of mine was informatics town and said these two young up and coming stars ars right somehow. I had dinner with mark and Leonardo Di Caprio when I was twenty one and you know I have no idea how that even happened but It's been dinner. I want to know what happened after I went home. My God knows what they did but I was this in the day when when Walberg was adding ordering extra bread to the table he must man. I can't believe his routine is just insane. I mean it's unreal like we don't get up at shower or two in the morning for there are three. Am Very driven. I guess so so And so the Guest Star List on that show was absurd so at some point when did did you finally start getting calls where people like. I want to be on that show like season two or three. I mean the first season it was impossible to get anybody you know even mark I didn't know if he was gonNA show up he was in the pilot and I had no idea if he was actually coming or not serious. Yeah we had one actor who did not show up for the pilot and Adrian had start calling friends to get somebody down so it started out very Taliban then by the end that was great. I'm sure I'm sure you got called so them. Which is the call that you got? That was particularly like okay now. I know where we've made. It was that Lebron probably you know and I got a call the bronze dish shell when I meet him. And Lebron says you know this is my e. This is my drama. This is my turtle is very cool. So what did he say. No kidding all right now How did Brady wind up on? That show will brady which is kind of a sad tragic story out brady of on the show. The ending obviously his triumphant and amazing but after the giants win the Super Bowl. And I'm a die hard giants fan man and calls me. Says he wants to be on the show and I said well. Then you're on the shell. I write a script script which you know it may look like this is no big deal easy but I write a script with Eli and then his agent at one point called Peyton will do it too so I write this whole script and then we're getting ready to shoot about six months later and I I called ally on his cell how he called me and he doesn't return my call and then I had jerry calm has returned. Jerry call so Ferrara Ferrara call. I brought in the big guns and then I'm in the office and I'm losing my mind because now we're like a couple of weeks out and I have two in. You know brothers who there was some comedy relating Vincent Drama Them. I'm like I don't know how to replace these guys like we get the sharp brothers. I don't know though and And mark happened to be at the office and I'm I'm I was tend to be a little crazy. It was freaky now. Things around the Osmar. What's the problem marks Commas coolest guy? I'm like Ah I don't know what to do. We have no one to shoot this. He's like what if me and Brady do it. I was like well that worked with that. And you know what what of the you know to me Tom. Brady is honestly one of the one of the nicest guys but also the way he carries himself and when we shot. You don't usually give like these stars these seven. Am Call all times you try to make it a little easier but top shows up at seven am. It's like forty degrees at the golf course that was going to. He walks out grabs a club and takes one and hits it to twenty and misses the whole won by like here and that was complete movie star epic moments. So he's born to do it just in any single damn anything. He puts his mind to. Yeah so so. He's on the show. 'CAUSE Walberg S- like I'll save you. I'll save the whole show. I got it I got the script before you AH Brady and Radi importantly guys ally bit of a big time diva Patriots Fan Dan over there who wants to try and you know one of the great you know interviews that I have on tape somewheres mark in Brady and they asked why Eli was on the show and mark gave an answer that would never ever be able to be put out there. But Tom's face was dying. And you know it's tough. It was tough for me as a giants Fan But since then you know I'm still giants fan but I've always rooted you know Julian show the you know and Did it so I I root for them. You're partial to people who who Doug Allen here on the rich Eisen show. So how did you become a giants fan. I became a giants Fan I was said on the radio. Portion portioned earlier. I was a Ram Fan because the movie something for Joey which was about John capillarity in a sad movie that makes Young men cry which I did and I was Iran's fan but then Like twelve years old. I think and my brother's going to college in Pittsburgh and I'm in the hotel there and the giants are staying there and playing asteroids and the team walks in and this one guy comes up and says can I play with your kid. I was like sure and I'm playing with him. He's a great guy we're hanging out and I know he's a player I asked for autographs. And it's Lt and that was his rookie year. I I really didn't know who he was but I'm going to be my guy I'm GonNa follow him and you know and it all came full circle twenty years later and lt follows me on twitter. I was like wow hi. This is This is a pretty great so hold on. So you're playing asteroids just decide you know what I want you you know. Pass the time where they were they play in the steelers. preseason so and this is I guess I'm trying to think what year that is gonna be like late Seventies. Maybe I'm in Garland eight to twelve fifty two okay. So we're eighty eighty one so jeeze asteroids is pretty average is amazing that I mean I guess another one so the other way to put it as well so I was playing space invaders with Phil Simms. I'm not trying to drop by the way we're in this town. I'm asking you these this questions and it's just amazing how these out in Pittsburgh this is not a Hollywood story. And I'm just a kid you know didn't know who he was at the time. And you know now. He obviously became who became. So it's pretty wild and your from Long Island. Which makes you an islanders fan right? I grew up again. I'm fifty some You and I aren't too damn far apart So I grew up a ranger fan and I loved the Rangers. In in the mid to late seventies Rondo gay with flowing hair. I hated him and Barry Barry Beck and all hit every one of them wearing my pod Vin in Jersey in Madison Square Garden and having things thrown at me when I was nine or ten years that makes it tougher. Tougher and tougher made me who I I remember watching the drive live for five on my local whatever cable. TV like might be met go had it or something like that and I just remember I hated the island. I hated Nice Gym. I hated Bossie. I hated Smith Billy. Smith was the big hunk golden dirty filthy dirty. I thought and I was. It was at the game nystrom scores in the last last row of the Nassau Coliseum and this was by far the greatest sports moment I've ever experienced. Come come on I it was. I mean I was such as I said earlier I could name pretty much every name and number of everyone on that team okay You know so if you you know. Twenty Three's nystroem edged from obviously you said Bossy twenty two and Smith thirty one but I I mean like there's no memory that's even close to that and the feeling when they won you know I I always I want for. My kids was to be able to experience that when they grow up and it doesn't seem to me that the passion is as much anymore as it was when you lived and breathed these teams. You know that kind of they lived in the community. See Him around and it was just very cool around around. Now you'd be around Zero Ben's Delicatessen Gord Lane City. There you are you serious. I mean I don't know that I saw Gordy lane accident but I saw some bread. Ah Twenty four by them so have you followed them the Brooklyn or you still an islanders. Fan Fan I couldn't name everyone's number today Dad. What is your throne asked me but I I still a very big and I mean you know I it's It's amazing seen them in Brooklyn now. The first first concert I ever went to was at Nassau Coliseum to Joel I. I'll be honest with you. I will always shooting everybody straight here Kinda. I wish it was billy Joel. Who's now as you know the official singles Madison Square Garden You know It was Chicago so good show of the well. I mean it was. It was the of the hard habit to break Terry. Slow Song I. It isn't a comedian opened opened up. My God. Bless my late. Dad drove drove our ashes all the way out there and he drove around for like three hours picked us up and drove back. The cell phones like like this is back when we're calling sports phone to find out the scores kids taking overall C. Whatever it's very said I said I would change? My parents would never let me do the stuff that goes on l.. Man Doug Allen here on the richeisenshow okay so that your Knicks expand now writing Knicks Fan and produced the documentary on the sixty nine to seventy two knicks. You know I I. I don't WanNa put you in a difficult position because I'm very very critical of the owner. I put one in. I hate his guts. You sign can you not I mean it's it's horrible to see this and and when you think you know that the Knicks are now this destination that no one will go to when they have the money. It's mind boggling. I mean you know I I you know. Baron Davis is a friend of mine and when when baron had a minute with Barron aren came into the guard and all of a sudden you felt the whole. NBA To me feels better when the knicks are good and to see that no one will even go there now. Is It's tragic. It's just as is is the best place in the world and you know it's where I grew up. It's where I saw you know Bernard King do his thing Jerry and Bernard King Jersey in the pilot because Bernard King was my light idol. I work my turnaround. Jump shot everyday in my. Oh my God wasn't quite wasn't quite Bernard went back to back fifty points in Texas and then there was the Pistons playoff series. Where is eight and him? Basically played one on one They I forgot what the total number was. Twenty four points in a row but Bernard was the guy what what a shame that his knee blew up terrible and now obviously that did lead to Patrick Ewing position that nickel get up or to have an envelope. I have some whatever pink exactly but I mean they played. I think just a handful of games together. Yeah Ewing and Bernard King would have been unbelievable. Unbelievable and Bernard is so underrated as you know really one of the great players of all time of all time. There's no doubt about it so that's where I flew that. That's where I I I I fell in love with basketball. Fell in love with the next just even to this day I haven't been to the garden years and and again I'm not making too big of a deal of it but I have been so critical of the sky. Dolan that we have a Dolan wormhole there anytime I mentioned him. I just devolve into anything even and again the NFL draft is coming. Vegas and it's going to be amazing and I say the reason why in last year in Nashville and the year before In Philadelphia Alfie and it looks amazing in the person you have to thank for that as James Dolan because he alienated the NFL out of out of the Radio City Music Hall. I mean I will bring anything Kevin Durant. It's not there I was. I was a hundred percent certain only because if Dolan thought it was going to happen and not to make fun. But it's like that anyone they want to go to the nets of the New York Knicks. I mean it's just it's the damage vote doesn't matter it doesn't it doesn't wherever certain generation but the Barclays Mark Lease Center is a beautiful spot Brooklyn is just across it is in Brooklyn is a great place but you still would think you WANNA put on that New York Knicks. Jersey like the Lakers. You would think you'd want want to be in that and you want to win a championship for them but obviously not I guess does Janas feel that way. Because that's the that's no way you're going to. I don't think so either. I don't know that we were talking about Kenny Smith coming in as the GM they bring Mark Jackson and Kenny Smith. Maybe things could change for us because we remember that. Oh my oh my gosh. So now I know Good to see a show absolutely absolutely Mr Doug Ellin on both twitter and Instagram Yeah 'cause I I wonder if Jerry I WANNA put them in a tough spot talking about the Knicks and being critical and stuff like that but well he gets the good seats so he does so he does get good seats Thanks for coming on today. Really predict back on anytime at Mr. Doug Gallon both twitter and instagram. Eight four four two four riches the number to the dial when we come back. We see if there's I think that speeches have just begun. There looks like a WHO. I don't know who this individual is Mitch Holt. That's up at the microphone. Yeah the the voice of Kansas City chiefs. He does not look like Andy Reid Worry about that. I'm okay. That's coming up next on the rich Eisen show. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast certainly couldn't do this show without either of you and I wanted to remind you that you can support my sponsors by going to my show page Egypt. PODCASTS DOT COM clicking on the support this podcast button and there. You'll see all of my wonderful sponsors helped make this show possible. So thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting now back to the show. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show fund show her Bunny Fund Chaumet's fun- John Fund show. Now we're we're laughing because we're seeing the the the scenes from Kansas City right now and and they're singing the national anthem right now before the speeches. Why not and Bam loosened the parade began at nine thirty. It's two hours now of just non stop. I mean these videos stations been posting. He is so hammered. Well the the the photograph of day is because they're you know the chiefs have been riding atop double decker buses and the photograph of the day's as mahomes out of the back corner of double decker bus pouring a beer out down atop Kelsey. WHO's down on the on the street street and Kelsey got the goggles on lifting up and he's trying to pour directly in his mouth as you might imagine? Despite how accurate mahomes is as a thrower and not all of it's going into the intended target and it's already been established that Chelsea's wearing a twenty thousand dollar coat who've so the most valuable person all of Kansas City Missouri or Kansas. I imagine because you've got you've got really you've got a really you know. Spread it out is is whatever dry cleaner that's going to be in possession of Chelsea's code after this parade. This requires this. This is going to require some deep cleaning or or he just takes it back to the store and return this. Can you imagine if somebody gave it to him. Just because they knew that it was going to be publicized. You gotta get back cleaned. I mean if that's a gift from the they gotTa know that eight my back cash goods. Yeah needs to know that that's not coming Bassel. Nobody's nobody nobody is spoken yet. So I imagined we know who the the the speakers will probably be Clarken read right probably they be Mahomes Kelsey. We'll speak our speakers will. Frank Clark's gotTa Have Speakers Learn Matthew eappen on average speakers role who else speakers occurs role but one of the offensive lineman. Go up there. Because you know usually don't do that sort of stuff maybe Mitchell Schwartz up. There could be going to be. They all look rack. I mean I think Mahomes tweeted out this morning. He his voice is already shot from Disneyland. He was in Disney. The Disney shop from Disneyland. How this new World New World War all day yesterday David Arkansas. There's been hanging out for much of the hour. What's up David? Hey rich how's it going. How you been served as going on I've been good Aside from the niners Susan That was kind of painful Eh But At the beginning of the season you had a you had a pick the niners hot take to go to the Super Bowl. minuting kind of flipped lipped scripts there I was just wondering if there's something you saw the niners that she didn't like more. Were you just hypnotized by magic mahomes. No well I I don't think I have. I said that they were going to be taken to the Super Bowl. I had them as a sleeper team. which is a way of somebody in my position to say that this team would perform well or better than expected and not have to stake? Just how well. It's kind of my way of trying to sound smart without trying to give myself the risk of looking stupid. You understand what I mean whenever you hear somebody say what. What a sleeper team is? They never basically then go out and say how how deep they've been asleep or how awake they will be. You know what I'm saying. Yes Sir you know but but I do love and thank you David appreciate it. I mean look I set it. Jimmy Johnson apparently again. Because I was going against that Fox pregame show apparently Jimmy Johnson said on Fox. pregame what I said on Thursday show that caused Brockman and say well about Mahomes as the most talented player in the history of the Super Bowl at the position of talented quarterbacks have been there John Elway and is an. NFL One one hundred all time team member with the ability to run. Throw to and Mahomes to me is just as talented and we can make this argument and it took elway forever and a day to win a super bowl and mahomes way ahead of the game and and I know that I was nine minutes away from being wrong body. Those nine minutes proved me right and we had a caller earlier and say how come teams like the Titans got out of their run game. How calm team like the forty niners didn't run it more than they did? Well when you think that you've got a score a bunch of points maybe get a little bit spooked. I don't know or you tip your cap to the other teams defense. That's one two and again. It's amazing how it works. We don't remember who lost years from now. I mean you can kind of look it up but what you remember who won right and you don't remember how things go down. You just remember how could have been right and we were if what Garoppolo just put a little more air underneath the ball and he did connect with Emmanuel Sanders Sanders. And we'd be talking. How do the chiefs defense let Emmanuel Sanders get behind two guys with the game on? How did that happen? And what a throw by Garoppolo who is now a super bowl champion. While we're wondering about Tom Brady's future and we would be talking all about Emmanuel Sanders at his advanced age coming back from an Achilles injury and put an all online and getting out of Denver. And what a move move it would be by John Lynch to make that deadline trade for the guy who somehow at that advanced age came back from an Achilles injury and scored the touchdown to win Super Bowl. Fifty four on what could have been maybe one of the longest past place to ever win a game of that magnitude at that point in time on the clock of a team that had been up open. Enrollment the League. I mean like honestly we and then we would be talking about that play for the next twenty five years or forevermore but it was down down gives them the lead. There's a minute and a half homes timeout. Yeah and we'd be talking about one of the greatest finish in the history of the Super Bowl right. Water COULDA SHOULDA PT. I had a really fun tossup debate yesterday who has better hall of fame credentials right now ally or mahomes come on. I mean really was this. Was this really other some yesterday Eh. Who has better fame credentials? Eli Are Mahomes. Yeah I mean when you have these arguments you've got to say that Mahomes doesn't have the long no no snap left in them right right like it's over now right now right mahomes just decided you know what I'm GonNa be the first guy to be a super super bowl. MVP LEAH MVP of the National Football League. And I WANNA play. Baseball ran do that for the world series right now and I WANNA do. I'm still young so here I come Detroit Tigers Right. Did you see tweet from the Detroit. Tigers 'cause they drafted him years ago. Oh do they still on his wrightson sir. Probably owners writer who does own his rights but they basically said congratulations to Patrick. MAHOMES are thirty seventh round draft two thousand fourteen. Yeah Ah congratulations to our two thousand. Fourteen thirty seventh round draft. Pick Patrick homes on winning his B- Football game. Whoever came up with that in the Detroit Tigers Social Social Media Department well-done solid to them even then no one twice? Why are we? Why are we the greatest team of all time time? Ally never through fifty touchdowns in a year was never. MVP never never was great in the regular season. PATS fans. Don't you you guys. How do they answer that question on? They just kind of laughed and said of course it's easy y because of longevity but the fact that it was even a topic I think speaks to how great we think Mahomes uh-huh is going to be so The UEFA Champions League gearing up for star-studded round at sixteen stream Liverpool versus Athletico Madrid psg es G. Versus Borussia Dortmund and all of the round of sixteen on law starts streaming on Tuesday February eighteenth coverage starts at two eastern time and Hey everybody everybody check out the NBA League Pass. Because you don't have to wait to the All Star game to catch show stopping moments. Watch your favorite players teams and more with NBA League pass visit NBA Dot Com to subscribe today final results Yankees dodgers. 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186: Are the Sens Better off Without Duchene and Turris?  Memorable Christmas Gifts, 80's Islanders

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186: Are the Sens Better off Without Duchene and Turris? Memorable Christmas Gifts, 80's Islanders

"Christmas this year. Christmas is here in my garage. Gosh we'll all have some beer and Christmas is here but don't be so cheap deep from me. The Christmas is here in the like Christmas. You get nothing for Christmas you separate. What did you lose some weight? Your draw right. They're drunk again. Forgot to work again eh as it is right there it is a classic Christmas Miss Carol From Shows Pass James Christmas tradition unlike any other It says here. Why don't you lose? Awesome wait yeah. Yeah they would limit a lot. lofts I maybe fifteen years ago. He did that that that that's the five-time stevie absolutely everybody welcome to the Christmas Miracle That is the Swat podcast. He warned Jim Jerome shows about sports. And whatever our website is Steve W PROJECT DOT COM coming up today. Our web poll. Sometimes the best hockey deals are the ones you don't make. Donald Trump is impeached impeached. We gotta talk a little bit that the islanders honoring a couple of their legends. Retiring their number soon and the L. A. Lakers are awesome Magic Johnson even though he He's been gone about a year now. He wants credit for it. He's he's demanding. Credits it's all about me Okay So so that's coming up today on the podcast everything. Good James Games. Everything's good everything's good thinking to think of something to get for the for the ladies in your life for Christmas you know right So I'm trying to think of some some bad gifts that I gave for Christmas not really not not a lot of there was kinda thought but but didn't really think far enough. Steve didn't really think through it. You know right yeah and planning your strong suit. No no the walk one year. I gave my way. Didn't fairly didn't go over. Well you know not not like a walk around the block or stir. FRY thing yeah. Yeah here's here's a cooking utensil. I got golf clothes and stuff like that. You know that year. Oh God you you gotta walk I gotTa Walk in you walk. I couple benefit. If you guys are still together you'd be getting her appellate on Christmas. Everyone screaming about that reminds me. I'll tell you my my brother. My brother Paul talked about a lot was very funny. Okay Super Funny Guy Super Quick witted and he. He's he's done a couple of things I just I had to alive. I had to laugh and and one of them was Dave woolley I love the wooller. Love the wooller Hill attest to this he played I read of it. He may still. My brother was a member at review and him and I were going golfing there and he brother he's intense guy man just but but funny guy sarcastic you know and make it all the time and and he goes blasting into the pro shop. It was raining and had been raining for a while that Dan my brother goes in and says hey hey idiots we call the two kids behind the counter hate. It's listen as you sign my brother up here as a guest in the Guinness up get us a power card with whipping around the front poison. Step wanted on it would you and and day. Foley's outside and and the guy says yeah. Sorry Mr Jerome There's no carts allowed right. It's too wet. What does yeah? There's no you can't take the carts and he looks outside. Dave Dave is pretty big eyed and my brother says like really really fast and said you. Won't you won't let me take a cart. Don't but Gillette Dave stand in one spot. Oh No oh yeah Oh okay Did that ever get back to Dave or is he just hearing it now for the first time because I think my tunas in once in a while I I think Dave probably probably knew that story from back in the day so anyway further to that this is this is sort of tragic checkbook became hilarious. You know my brother is so funny so as a lot of people no I. I lost my my younger brother Joey. Nine hundred eighty six when he was twenty twenty one he was killed. Tragically about laughing at that but You know memory fades a little bit. Well one of the things I remember was You know my parents stayed in that house for a while after and then you know my mom was too tough on my mother and my father and they moved you know. They got houses just every time they walk by his bedroom. You know it was is terrible and so my brother we have. We got to go up and clean out his room. You know sort of a week or two. After he died. I know no one really wanted to go in there at all and so we said well we got mum cat do it. Dad does want to do it. So we gotTA gotTa go in there and clean on his room and my brother had a lot of stuff. Joey had pretty cool stuff. And so my brother Paul and I go in there and say okay well. Let's just take this stuff you know. Let's let's just split split up and and get rid of it and I said okay. Well what what do you want. I said I'll take that I'll take that trophy there. I see a little plaque there. He wanted to debating eating contests when he was in grade. Eight and my both said. Can you take that. I'll take a stereo. I said okay. Okay that's and I said okay. I'll take that he made. He made a box. They're in shop. Industrial Arts tvos called back then and he made a little box or any sort of burned his name into it. You know it was shitty looking thing I said I'll take that he goes okay. I'll take his ski boots and Skis. Shit what's wrong with you. You're terrible at this shit. I missed that one you know and so next thing. My friend is imposed both five grandmother stuff and I got a shitty black a dumb box that he made and some smelly close anyway. Oy was you know whatever bad comes some funny stuff but the GM of NHL team with the first overall draft pick. You can see what kind of crap you would choose. We'll talk with the first selection. Jim Jerome selects the nine hundred best eighteen year old hockey player on the planet. Yeah that was a bad picker. Yeah so anyway. Speaking of bad gifts anyway. Yeah the walk was was was was not a good not strong gift. Mostly get. I'm trying to think of something that I ever got that. I didn't want what I don't even lost them. I've seen a walk walk on Friday. Standard stir fry stuff. They're making. TV shows that that walk with yen. Show that we I I remember Rendez. The Guy always had some sort of walk pun on the front of his apron. That thing lasted for for a long time. But I don't see any fads going on right now in terms of stir-fry anymore I'll tell you what I got. Steve I told you about this site called. I grew up in sub right and it's just exploded. Well you know there was. There was fifty thousand people who've joined this page and a fantastic if you like reminiscent you know about the all times and and so people are talking about all these old spots in town that there were hotels that have since been torn down where we drank underage and so a lot of these memories. EMORY's turn into the Aug every member doing this as a kid. You know like playing marbles for example right back in our AS Roma's I thought Galleria marbles you know I remember that one big winner or job rakers or what who sat on the little cement wall down at their confectionery. You know and I thought that was just my confectionary and talks about getting an RC. Cola and stuff like that so it's really it's really funny. It's really great and right away. I remember a couple of lethal gifts. Either for my birthday earthy for Christmas and I always go back to lawn darts was was well one of those. You know the the spears they got to got to throw at each other and try and put them inside a one and a half foot circle there so what can happen. What could possibly happen? And my friend Martin took one in the head okay and ended up in hospital so the real nice feature here is no matter or how you throw it. It's coming down spear I like dark okay. So so if you're in the way of this thing okay you're getting stitches and so that was fine and then then I remember this would never be allowed to this thing would never pass. The Litmus test was the super slider snows gates. Oh my God I was just going to mention those in the concussions. I endured at about age. Ten Yeah Yeah remember those like flexible pieces of plastic that you're wrapped opt around the bottom of your feet. You know like support. There's no nothing in them. And what have you got a pair of those Those were pretty cool. Are we speaking of skiing. Leased Ski Race Up. In sub we lived up five minutes from a little we hill. You know probably probably had two hundred vertical feet drop or three hundred feet if that and you know we back in in the day when you had. I grew up Steve with lace laced boots laced. Up Your ski boots and they were rubber rubber. Steve Rubber Rubber Ski Okay and and Lisa votes with no installation. No nothing on your parents dropped you off. If it eight thirty in the morning and came back at four to pick you up with these things so your your feet were immediately frozen. I just it was crazy but what was a really cool thing is. You've got to want it to back in those days. Steve you sort of like go over a bump and pop op the tipsy your skis up. Did you ever ski like Kid. Not Repetitively or anything all hockey all the time for sure. Yeah and and what he wanted to lean back. You know you would lean back and sort of whip the tips your skis up and cut like almost like your water skiing. But you throw the tips up and and So what the someone thought of this idea. So the higher your ski boots were Steve. Okay back in the days. When when the first pair of skis was I had just wrapped around your ankles ankles? That was it radio and now of course when the tape ahead well fifty years okay really. I'm fifty eight eight. And and now of course they go way up you know they started going up the back. Your calf way more support you know. Imagine these keyboards Steve. The chances of you're falling backwards in skiing or I don't know about one hundred percent okay when you're trying to ski. And so what some guy did was he invented this sort of add on thing to the Skibo that you you you clicked it around the top of your boot and it was a you know a solid fiberglass. The last thing that went up the back of your leg and I forget what they were called but but those were huge once. You got a pair of those near a Kit I'll I'll we'll think of other things that so. What would be the best gift you ever got for Christmas? Well New Skis man loose keys where you know. If you've got the new skis at Christmas. That was some awesome mine was in television. The video game the video game system that came out like in the eighties and the top. Yeah I us I mean it's four hundred dollar system in the mid nineteen eighties and To get that now is in the midst of the worst fiv right ever had that stage and so I think my dad got it late in the game because I was feeling so crappy as one hundred and four temperature and so I was excited to get it and I'm like I'm kind of fuzzy looking at things hallucinating listening from the fever. And like Oh my God in television baseball. Oh my God and I couldn't play it for a good week because I was in bed but when I was feeling and better and I remember the excitement I had despite the fact I was so sick. Yeah I you know the other. The other the other deal was whether it ended up being a gift or my dad walking me down to the sports store which by the way came up on this facebook page and over guys remember this sporting store in suburb in the late sixties and seventies right right. And you're just I love it. Just go through and I just get just get washed over with these unbelievable memories you know as a kid. I remember that the first first time I got an adidas pair a pair of shoes from DEMARCO brothers Sudbury walk down those stairs and Gazelle manner. Arom man I was well. I'm trying to think I think I was a tobacco. To measure their tobacco's they did or Brown Brown Brown yellow teeth with Bass Bass stripes. That was wicked. I got a pair of Scuba Steve Boots. Yeah remember those. They had felt liners in them. That was great The bike of course was the big gift I think of all the winter boots I had over the years like sasquatch boots and moon boots and Cougar Uber boots. It's funny those are just had to have those at the time because they were so fashionable in the school yard and you had to have them and Yeah yeah those who got 'em raise to your move moon boots okay. We're just foam right. We're really thick full for there was no there was hardly any shape. To the MIR. There are bake nick clumsy things superlight. Yeah they were warm but but they were just the most inept style of footwear where he could ever have. They weren't real resilient right they'd rip a slide once on the ice and be ramp. I remember you know all of us got one near you know there were four of us. My sister was born late. Megan right she's we're all born in my sister's fifty nine to my brother's sixteen sixty one and my other brother and sixty four. Megan came ten fifteen years later. The four of us all got Bloomberg one year in fact these things were so big. We couldn't get in the car. You know the foremost could assist across. You know this this thing you need to know about twice the width to your car. To be able to put your feet down you know it was. It was Hilar- cool. Though they were cool there were cool sitting in the back of the carbon dioxide seats. Steve was always a great memory. What we in a station wagon so you got your your friend seat and your backseat and then you got in the in the back the tailgate area right these these two little things flipped up into seats facing each other in the back? I don't know if you've ever remember seeing those are not awful. I remember I remember the ones that just yeah. I remember facing backward in one of the mice like this the worst design ever. 'cause I get carsick and the best times but if I'm driving backwards now I'm riding along backwards as a little kid like that was a recipe for well emptying emptying the contents of my stomach. Sure sure the other real cool thing is good hockey player too. I play I. I did both. I skied played hockey playground hockey rocky and I had to give up to two mailman. I'm not driving to hockey anymore. We're going to skiing. Pack Your Shit. What's playground hockey then? Well key community hawking. Okay you know so. We we play outdoor rinks man okay and we walked dressed at home and walked down through the through through the skate. Blades through the stick right. Yeah the blades of the stick and threw the stick over your shoulder and walk with your through your scrupulous on with and walk down to the rink and plate so I played. I played like atom peewee hockey and Till I was I guess I guess thirteen midgets after after peewee right. I didn't play midget hockey. That's what I could have but I didn't but I remember when I was playing hockey and I snapped open a few gifts at Christmas with my first Leather hockey gloves like a good set of hockey loves his. Remember that going. WHOA WHOA here for a minute? Now you're talking. It sounds like nothing right when you're an adult but when you were a kid man you get some of those hockey gifts. I was just like a anytime. Got Hockey Equipment or Hockey Jersey or something you blow my mind like Oh my God it is when I was real little and I got and it was so bad by today's standards like today. Kids are getting these authentic ones that the pros actually where they're unbelievable. The one I got was like made needed wool in the in the halves logo on the front who was the was the Road Jersey at the time anywhere the red one and the haves logo on the front seemed to be made it of felt out and lasted about a month before I rip the logo accidentally and But how happy was is a little kid getting something like that man through the Roof Oof Oh it was unbelievable or or getting that stuff. You know I totally understand what you're talking about my dad walking me in Shop in Sudbury. They're up at the Idyllwild and walk him in there and said you know before we before we play golf this afternoon. We're GONNA hit some some balls services. Come come with me and walk into the pro shop. Carl Van Stone. He's long gone now but but he was the head pro there for years. And you know as Mr Back in those days radio with Mr Vanstone never back talked anyone you know you never you never left every anyone off and and the you know I would be up to golf course all day and and these guys have the ability to to you know the go ahead to discipline and make sure he didn't act up and stuff like that so sort of in big fear of this guy thinking. I'll get in trouble because I was a bit of a snot nosed player out on the golf course. You know right breaking clubs once in a while and my dad said come here. We're going to go in and see Mr Vanstone. Fuck Doc all know. Oh no what what they do and my dad walked me in there and I said well what's what's up. I'm sitting here. So he was sort of an intimidating guy you know he had this deep voice and he said Well Your Dad and I've been talking. It's time it's time for you to get your own set of clubs new set of golf clubs. Oh baby what what what I said I was almost like twelve years old. I don't don't fuck with me okay. Don't I didn't say that but And so that that that day was I got these links manufacturer serve Gulf that they may still be there. I don't know but Freddie couples endorse them and and I got these links para lax or something ironside got brand new pal out of the box you know and so that was like Iran without one for two summers because we all had handy down equipment. UNHANDY down handy hand me down stuff you know so getting anything new was off the map. No doubt all right so lots of great Christmas memory such a good memo to all the good parents out there to to choose wisely because those Those Christmas gifts man they just They completely stand the test. Time the memories of them are pumped you get and That kind of carries through. Now that's part of why I'm excited about Christmas because anything I want now as an adult I can go out and buy three hundred sixty five days a year if I want it so I don't I don't really want for anything. But just the fact kids are GonNa get something cool that pumped knowing that they're going to be pumped. I used to hate people who would whip out a bunch of pictures you know. Knock it off. I mean they're your kids you know I don't WanNa see the frigging things and this year. Steve Soya what do you want for Christmas Day and I said you know what I want want. I want every picture of you guys as kids in order to beat. I mean my go over to their house My ex wife has a bunch of stuff on her laptop. You know that she's all these pictures from when my kids were small and you know there's there's no one funnier there's no one there's no one you know cuter better looking than your own kids right. Look them here. Got That air okay. Smiling and stuff okay. It's crazy it's crazy this kid this I'm telling you that I don't I don't you know what is he really is special. Okay it really is. He really is just the best kid. Awesome like that would be the best gift ever if my kids kids rounded up all these pictures of themselves or Mac's wife took so one thing I'd love as a Christmas present. would be for the retrieval of about. I'd say two thirds thirds of the photographic lives of my children jers well because since we had com we've had computers so So Handy with all the great photo sharing excites and those opportunities to you know. Save stuff on your computer and all that and so I ended up putting a boat like say about a half half to two thirds of the kids photos from them growing up onto the computer. But my son who's autistic. He likes everything to be just so and symmetrical and stuff and he came upon these files one day and they looked all kind of out of order and disorganized to him so he just deleted the ball so about half of our family photos from the kids kids existence on this planet. Oh yeah the nice thing was. It's a double edged sword. Because I found a data recovery software that I could use is to retrieve all of these out of the depths of the hard drive of my computer. The trouble is none of them are labeled so basically every photo I have retrieved. That's ever made. Its way into computer whether I'm just surfing online for something as a picture of Daniel Alfredsson. That's going to be great. But I I have no idea if that's Daniel Alfredsson or one of my two kids so a great Christmas gift for me would be for somebody to go through thousands and thousands of photos and pick out the ones that are my family photos and which ones are garbage. Yeah if if you think you're tough okay. If you think you're tough talk to me talk to me after you go through an old storage box you know my my. My Kids are twenty three twentieth. Seventeen okay and and there's a bunch of stuff that's been collected and if you think you're tough go back there and whip out a card that your kids wrote you for Father's Day when they were nine or ten years old. I was tear up now. I talk about it if you think you're tough. And then you know what I i. Speaking of emotional cards in on it came across the other day was a card that will my son was diagnosed with autism. I wrote a card to Michael on his eighteenth birthday You know where our head space was as parents and what we still hope for him despite the diagnosis of autism. And what we are worried about. We were concerned about and what we had hoped for. And all those things and to read that eighteen years later Michael didn't care that much about it but for me to read it and to hear hear my one thousand nine hundred ninety seven self talking about emotions and stuff like I was very close to breaking down reading Asher. You're sure and so much. Do you know that it was just tearing up a second ago about that. So what happens now when I met you know. Christmas is coming. Upper my birthday or father's Day or and my kids always give me cards. They know you like them and so now it's like thank. Thank you for the cart. Not Opening here in front of you knew knock knock could happen. 'cause I just break down you know when you when you see this so the way okay I am now was what I used to laugh at. You know sort of other parents you know who you are. So insistent on taking pictures of their kids and saving so much stuff you you know. It's a so there. I am the person I used to laugh at now in my life right but anyway good stuff tough well we got. We got a few days left for Chris. Probably do a couple more shows before the holidays. We haven't really figured out our podcast holiday schedule like this'll be our final one for the weekend again. as we record this December twentieth and we take the weekend and Maybe a show or two before the actual Christmas Day that we haven't really figured out things beyond that between Christmas and new years but will probably be a little sporadic like everybody else in the world during the holidays but we will be jamming in some podcasts Through the holidays But we should get onto some other matters of the sports side of things. I want to remind everybody that we of course Want to say Merry Christmas and thank you to all all are great sponsors here with them there would be no show as been. 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Poll today if you have either these guys back would you want them back. Under those circumstances I tell you what Steve I I would weigh in on that poll as I do each and every Dan I'm sure people breathlessly await my my answer to the poll question. All right would you. What would you want those two guys on your team in Ottawa? I go with the well. Let's let's look at that You've been a healthy scratch your miniature way down course you only got fourteen points and twenty six or so game that's it and you're you make six Jillian a year nope I mean the money and the stats and the being a healthy scratch. It all kind of makes you go Not Sure I'm too pumped about that. But the guys beloved in Ottawa. The guys had some clutch moments for the organization so involved in the community especially the capital city condors. He's really well liked in Ottawa. And then some people are in the poll. Do actually say yeah. It's still like to have this guy around. So let's go through some of the feedback. Dan Kingsbury writes Neither in today's game name. You sign your obvious stars to long-term deals coming out of their entry level contract like he just did with Shibat no contracts longer than three years by the time the player reaches twenty seven. It'll keep you out of salary cap. Hell so Dan wouldn't be a fan of that and wouldn't have been a fan. I guess under those circumstances a recent mark stone or Carlson. Josh Likud rights isn't stone and Carlson struggling as well. What about single too? It might just take time to settle in or goes back to what we're seeing. NHL IS A kid's kids game by the time you're a Ufa you're done. I don't know if they're done but I'm not sure I want to pay the kind of money and term that some of these players are getting Savvy senior rights. I like both players. But neither should be part of this teams present or future Gowan here from mark as tarshish this sounds I do not think they should. They should have them back to young man's game. Both these contracts will hurt the team in the long run off a wasn't going to be a contender year after year with them. They were stuck in the middle class. Roau so full rebuild really was needed and one to the positive coming from K. W. I really wished tourists would have stayed and I think he likely would have had more success on the sends than he's having in Nashville. I find with a lot of players not all but a fair amount. It's all about coaching and systems Adams. Clearly Peter Lavi let hates counters. He might have been useful here under. Dj Smith so next everybody for their feedback on the poll. Paul Way too many for us to read right now Steve. The gang at rb computing would like to wish everybody a merry Christmas to all their customers and new customers. 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But I thought the whole thing was a little overblown having remembered. Bill Clinton's impeachment. Because I was on I was ignorant at that time of how American government works when it comes to impeachment. I just thought it was like. Oh you got impeached. She's out net. It's not bad at all. There's no chance donald trump is going to be removed from office for that to happen. You'd have to have two thirds of the Senate which is dominated by the way by the Republicans he'd have to get two thirds leads them to say yeah he should be removed from office. That's not going to happen. They're not going to get fifty percent let alone the sixty six percent they need. It's the equivalent of you know we talk sports of a coach going to a player on the team at tryouts. And saying you know me. And all the other coaches just don't think you're ready okay. And we took a vote and the four of us have decided. You know that that you can't be on the team now now all that all that has to happen next is your family needs to vote that same way. Okay your mom and dad and your brother and sister and your uncles and we're gonNA have to and if they vote against you then you're not on the team and I'm going no problem. Okay right I mean that's that's sort of how ridiculous that is. Yeah the Senate is basically the the parents you know there. I mean in theory the way the process is supposed to work. They are supposed to be impartial but because they come from the Republican they're obviously going to the company line and the same is true of your mom. I'M A dad. In this scenario that throw it honestly think that Donald Trump being impeached. If your goal or your desire is to see this guy not be president. The United States the most powerful man in the world I yesterday was bad news to be honest because to me. Trump is the Kinda guy who is just so narcissistic cystic. I don't know if there's a guy on the planet that loves himself as much as Donald Trump does right and I think that he he will have his feelings hurt by this. I've been impeached and I'm one of three in history who've actually got the impeachment tag on me and to me thinking about the way that guy's brain works works. I think he's going to be even more fired up to run for a second term like as if to say you know what impeach me fine but now now now watch this. Let's let the people pulled aside again. Who they want for presidents so? I think this thing may even galvanized the guy like the way he's tweeting since this thing went down like he's got a big picture picture of himself in a very bold looking tweet. That said something along the lines of Oh by the way. They're not coming from me. They're coming for. You is getting really dramatic. And he's always fairly dramatic and melodramatic on twitter. But I think that that actually is going to be be fuel to the fire for him looking to run for a second term. Anyway you know it we live in this this crazy crazy interesting time where You know this guy can say and do anything away from from running the country you know when you think back I mean it's it's almost getting confusing now and overwhelming with with with how much this guy's been taking it on the Chin every show every frigging social media stuff you know just all this donald trump stuff all day long you know and and and yet and yet they're stuff that comes out there going no no. This is actually true. True him sitting on a bus with that guy from entertainment today. And here's what he said about this woman. You know our our other women and isn't it eye opening to see how much a president can get get away with and not loses gig. Yeah and yet and yet a bunch of people support obviously support this guy that you know. He's he's he's helping from the rich here and and maybe not helping the poor so much just a bunch of stuff that we would normally otherwise look at it and go everyone. Everyone would run on run out of his team saying no no that is political suicide. If you say that if you do that he goes Oh yeah glad. You told me that. Stay tuned this afternoon. There's nothing you could do like I've been. I've always said that if this guy is out there and he can be on a podium in front of a million people people in Washington and while. He's on the podium. He's actually killing a guy like he's actually stabbing a guy in the neck stabbing in the established abby stabby and the media go go. Hey you can't do that. You're killing that guy you're actually committing murder in front of us and he would say no. I'm not and just continue stabbing him continue stabbing him and then get away with it when all was said. That's where trump just seems to be this teflon. Man Cannot get them and it doesn't seem to be any sin that he can commit where it's it's a fireball offense. Yeah and look you know. The the the biggest nightmare for for political leader is his own in people speaking out against them well. How many people have quit high level jobs at that guy you know? And they've come on as soon as you see here we go guys toast. He's toast toast. nope his campaign manager his press secretary. Whoever you know this? FBI inquiry that you know all sorts of Shit you know. That's that's happened to the guy it he's he's come through all that I guess but maybe now it's all piled up. What did backfire? Those Steve on the the Democrats yesterday is they equated. This thing to You know even Noah said you know the people are freaking out. There were two two people who made two different comments on it and they're getting slaughtered about one of them was compared to D. Day. You know Ah or to harass or something you know and said this is the equivalent of that and the other guy did it to you know. It's it's talked about the crucifixion. And you know of Christ and referred to that talking about this impeachment and people just went really really. Okay okay. No like like no one died here. Okay knowing got killed during got stoned no one got nailed to across it was just the backlashes. It's crazy you know. Anyway I my it becomes laughable when they go get this thing will never pass will never pass at the second stage here. You're Rockin APP. Well let's flip it back to hockey here for a second here at close out this segment in the New York Islanders. Of course one of the great dynasties of all time back in the early eighties they won four Stanley cups in a row. And they're going to honor to more of their legends. And it's going to be John Tonelli. He and Butch goring. They'll each have their number retired at Nassau Coliseum. This season Antonelli wore number. Twenty seven and ninety one was the number for butch goring kind of find it interesting goring. I don't think you'd find too many guys who've played so few games for a team. They get their number retired by club. I'd like the guy played something along the lines of three hundred fifty games and what he did though was win four Stanley cups in that time right so they bought brought him in at a trade deadline and they went on to win the Stanley Cup that Spring back in one thousand nine hundred eighty they brought him in from the La kings and then they proceeded to win a bunch more more so if you have that kind of pedigree going for you that's how you get it done. Not many guys played so few games with the club and get their number retired like he will tonelli just a grinder finder. He played Six hundred regular season games almost tied for sixth in In team scoring and play a pile of Stanley Cup playoff games and he was a beauty as well both for the islanders and for team Canada in one sense candidate cop I think it was eighty one that he was in the winning goal and was just a beast and didn't even light it up br anything but just to players who are the kinds of guys they absolutely have to have to win Stanley Cups. There's always this talk doc. Excuse me there's always this talk about hall of Fame Inductions Jersey retirements you know those those two things and are they deserving of it and there's been some lively debate about some hall of fame stuff right we're Laghi carboneau this year right. A lot of people thought Gee Carbonell didn't have nearly the track Greco he needed to get into the hockey hall of fame compared to some of the guys that are on the list like Defensive Ford. Wow Yeah yeah I I WANNA say Bernie for Dirk something for Saint Louis One Year Garden Bill Barber of Clark Gillies. Yeah I don't know how. How many Stanley cups all those guys want? I'm assuming there's guys in the hall of fame who have won Stanley Cups. Does Alfie go in right absolutely. Yeah of course he does but you think of. Who is the big Defenseman for Boston for me and he went to Colorado? They let them go to Colorado. Who's going to be a lifer and they wanna Stanley Cup of Colorado that year? Oh Ray Bork Ray bork right. I did not win a Stanley Cup of Boston. Steve No he went to Colorado is kind of a mercenary and immediately. WanNa Cup there. Yeah I don't know four. Barks in the hall of fame. He is not but yeah. That makes this story a lot. Better Steve uh-huh always in the hall. So you Kinda get that right you kinda but I bet there's some people when it comes time saying if he didn't win with Colorado saying the Guy Never won a Stanley Cup you know so I don't know if that's obviously it's not a requirement as learned just now about getting in there but but when you're you're this guy you know if you got traded to eighteen and had done nothing prior to that you know maybe any make the plot but you come into a team and you signed a four or five year deal and you stay there for the entire contract and you snap up a couple of Cups Steve and played two hundred Games right bank. You're in you're in you know. That's that's the deal here. You know who wanted to Stanley Cup League Cup Sir Championships. They're important they play into it but I don't think you keep anybody out ever because you don't have a championship. There's just too many teams now in the original six in the NHL. Yeah okay. I'll entertain that conversation but when you're you're talking about a player and and individual greatness in the context of a team sport like a lot of guys have to participate to get anybody Into a hall of Fame mm-hmm or to be considered one of the greatest of all time but You know the Super Bowl concept. We're just talking about drew brees earlier. This week. He sets the You set the touchdown touchdown passing record in the NFL but he only has one super bowl versus Tom Brady. Who has six? I don't think Tom Brady. Is that much better. That I haven't better than drew brees but I don't think he's better by a six to one couches. Because Brady has six super bowls like okay by by that by that stretch Dan Marino. Who won no super bowls? He's a lesser quarterback than Trent dilfer Doug Williams which is absolute nonsense but those two guys. They won super bowls. So it's overrated for these guys to have won championships when deciding whether or not they get a number of the one of the greats where they're hall of famers it matters but it's overrated. I think yeah well. Well I'm of the opinion to that. I always thought there should be a place in the hall of fame for for the grinders unders for. I always think of these things as an example for future hockey players know what sort of example are we setting for the kids and and we have lots of. We have lots of bad examples particularly recently right that you don't want your kid to be character. You don't want him to be that sort of character. MHM The firing of these coaches some other stuff from players in the NFL for example who are up on criminal charges of stuff right so you know. It's bad for everyone to see that particularly aspiring athletes. But I always thought there should be a place that in the hall of fame somewhere that this guy. Here's why he's in here. Okay and and everything from he one lady bangs to You No he played frigging eighteen years. He he was a fourth liner grinder. You know maybe maybe fighting minutes I dunno or average minutes showed up early. Stay late all this sort of stuff. You know that is just an unbelievably great example to two kids coming up in the League first of all. It's kind of a relief for that. You know it's not all it's not all goals and assist. You know we got enough for that. We got all that you know that the game is about that. But what about some of these other guys. You know who who played Uninjured injured when you say. The islanders. The oilers always referred to losing to them one year and they all walked off the ice after it wiped out four straight or something or maybe it went more games. I forget but Kevin always talked about this. They all have a shower through their ties on and we're walking out the arena dejected and went by the islanders dressing room and guys were being taped up. And we're stretching announced stiff and totally beat up. They look like they went to war. And and there's GonNa be something to save for that for for a lot of guys who played in the NHL about those guys. And Kevin said Kevin said it was the most eye opening thing of his life. And that's what was part of being a good leader to like seeing that I'm sure he articulated that out to his teammates. And then Edmund would go on their Stanley Cup run. I think the following year right that was the fourth and final islander Stanley Cup. Win and you know and it's they still were excited. I'm sure there are still champagne. But I'm it was a modest celebration and The reality was as they paid the price and the oilers learned from that and they went on their own level of dynasty. So that was pretty cool. Just just wrap up this conversation. Would you happen. We know the other five New York Islanders. Sorry there are six. Can you name say four of the six who had their numbers previously retired by the calendars I was. I was going to say that. Who are who are the so? You've got Tonelli Corine going in I I gotta go with Bryan Trottier Yup number nineteen. I gotTA GO Dennis Pot van number five all the guys. Nine fifty goal seasons nine in a row bossy Mike Bossy number. Twenty two did Billy Smith. He did number thirty one. So there's only one left my bad. There are two more Billy Smith removed from the skaters. was there a moral. Who played for for the under? He was a great story and that he played in the miracle on ice team and won the Stanley Cup later. Hear that same calendar year with the islanders but he did not go onto a what you call a hall of fame career. No so he's not one of the guys they're both fords I I would. It would take me too long. I may them up what it would take me too long. Clark Gillies Number Nine and Bob Nystrom number twenty three who scored the overtime winner to give the islanders their very first Stanley Cup against the flyers in one thousand nine hundred the Nice. Let's take a timeout here. When we come back we'll get into magic Johnson a little end he's looking for credit for why the La Lakers are so awesome? This year. I though we got the project heads up for Friday December twentieth couple of games in the NHL Tonight Toronto. At New York to face the Rangers Pittsburgh at Edmonton that should be crosby versus mcdavid but said the bit dinged up these days. Sixty seven will be in Oshawa tonight all right a heads up forecast forecast for Friday December. The twenty th. It'll be mainly sunny high minus twelve wind chill of minus thirty in the morning minus fifteen in the afternoon and into your S. w. p. heads up is presentation of course our good friends at all Insurance Ontario. You could shop around for insurance on your own. 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Here's a great gift idea for the leaf hating hockey fan in your life. It's the blue team. Elimination Watch t shirts. Finally garment that perpetually reminds fans that you are always joyfully monitoring their slow inevitable demise and that it's only a matter of time get yours today on our merchandise page you'll be able to see some photos of the t shirts as well. It's Steve W PROJECT DOT com. So what do you think of Magic Johnson looking for credit for the La Lakers being as good as they are. I find that to be really really unlikable. Yeah it's one of those stories. I read the headline a saying magic. Johnson is taking credit himself for the Lakers. Great Year Right. They've only lost three or four games or some twenty four and four as we record this. Yeah crazy crazy record. Some some of his quotes. So you can fully fully responded I do in a second You know you'll read a headline of of a story go. What what what? What does that do read the story? As soon as I saw that I went. I don't care what's in that story. I hate that guy. I hate him but I find unlikable for sure I mean it was a great player and I I don't hate them but but that becomes sort of a really pound to me. It's always like it's not for you to decide okay. It's for us to decide right right and and it just makes me think the guy's really crazy that you that you do because Steve if that if that's the case okay So it would be a little different if you were the guy the Guy Toronto right the GM in Toronto Raptors. Everyone said this. You know without this guy. This team would've not done what they did right. What's an Jerry? Sorry Jerry Jerry. Right it'd be a little different of magic popped in for one year you know and then you know made trades and did all all this other stuff and then and then the team the following year. But if you're going to do that okay then you better take the blame as well okay. That's my angle on this. You want if not if not for me this deal's nowhere okay. All right well we'll talk to me then Jimmy when the ratings go through the basement drop out you know. So so. Here's what Magic Johnson had to say. And again I find it really unlikable. Maybe it's right. Maybe he's accurate. But I just want to hear him. And he talked in those terms of just unlikable this team would not be in the position. It's in without me. This was my strategy. This is what I thought we'd be in three years. I knew we were on the right track. Everybody wanted to do it their way. But I'm good with WHO I am. I think people respect what I've done for the team. It's certainly possible. That Lebron James doesn't end up with the Lakers without Magic Johnson. Being there but who would who can say for for sure is impossible to know that but I didn't hear too much I mean we I heard a little of it. And maybe part of it's human nature in that You're missing out on the fun right and we saw that with Dwayne Casey the head coach of the raptors he gets the NBA coach coach of the year two years ago and gets fired for his troubles and then new man comes in and without Dwayne Casey the Raptors go on and win at all and so Casey would be probably even more reason to say the kinds of things at Magic Johnson is but he didn't he alluded to it once in a while he has talked a little bit about some of the systems are what I was running and I'm sure that his heart of hearts was you know. Hey if you'd given me free Leonard the maybe maybe seeing a different result when I was there. I'm sure he's thinking all these things but it sure is unlikable when guys come forward and try and lay claim to something long after they've been dismissed. Well it's it's just like you know what you're saying here magic. You're going against every every other take on a championship team on a on a successful everyone on the team. No one ever says you know if not for me tagger woods for example okay. Who had the best result in the President's Cup was the captain of the team? You know that guy was brought to tears after going. It's unbelievable the team we had here. You know with guys that we put together together in the Moxie and the and the talent and all that stuff we got we got nothing you know. It's the same. You just don't do that. It's a team you know how do you think. Do you think Lebron's listen to that goes Yup. You're right you're right because if not for you we would've been nowhere other than me setting records every yeah. The Tiger example would be a good one because if tiger is had had ever stepped forward and and said you know what the PGA wouldn't be the same. If I never came along like I've made the PGA million dollars I've I've been the best thing that's ever happened. Goal F- will of course these things are true but you don't you don't say it and and Tiger never has. Yeah totally talked to a pitcher right. WHO's an ace right so young award winner and all that stuff you know you talk to him if they ever delve into that area GonNa get good? God you're the guy here right. He might he might remind you of a few clips ups okay with his outfielders. Okay risking injury to catch a fly ball jumping up over the fence smashing into the wall and I know that nobody in the right mind on a team sport ever says that ever ever even individual guy. Steve don't speak of golfers or tennis players. For example all all those all those people when you hear them talk about how what. What do you equate? Yes wild success that you're having a ton of them we'll go my support system. I think for anybody what he's saying this. It's it's unlikable for Magic Johnson in particular he to be going looking for the spotlight looking for credit when he's his cup has runneth us over when it comes to fame and wealth and love from the general public like the guy is Donald Trump asking his need for attention and and love and praise me like. That's that's the kind of stratosphere we're talking level were talking to say this is my strategy and this is what I thought we'd be. I knew you I think Blah Blah like how many is can you cram into one quote. I'll tell you I'll tell you. This breaks a massive tie. Steve between you know Magic Johnson and Larry Bird Right. There's there's a documentaries on this stuff. Those two ran the League for the Celtics and and they talked talked about. These are the greatest times ever. You know if you grew up watching basketball then with these two guys and you know who's the guy who meant more to the team team the massive rivalry that they had you know the two teams coast to coast And in the end you just you just blew with magic. Okay Larry Winds Larry went. Yup You're done was games over. Yep I'm not gonNA chug around words like hade or anything. I like that but I do roll my eyes at it and I find it really unlikable and a disappointing. You've had enough love but you don't need to go and start manufacturing Louis and admiration and all that we should call it a day James. It's been a busy program. Lots of good old Christmas memories. Lots of good sports talk all right. I gotTa go good night. Everybody we'll see. Everybody could be doing good night. Good night everybody. We'll see you

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01-13-21 Learning loss during the pandemic

Native America Calling

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01-13-21 Learning loss during the pandemic

"Welcome to native america calling from studio eight six nine in a letter pueblo. I'm tara gatewood at the beginning of the covid. Nineteen pandemic educators scrambled to get students connected to on my glasses to keep them safe even day. Educators worried how online only classes would affect students longtime learning a new study by mackenzie company. Now documents the learning gap from almost a full year without in person classes. Many worry that gap is even greater for native students. Coming up after the news. We'll get the details about the drawbacks of online learning. Stay tuned this is national native news. Tony gonzalez oklahoma congressman tom. Cole opposes impeaching president trump as members of the house moved to impeach trump accusing him of inciting violence against the government after last week's deadly riot at the us capitol and a house rules committee meeting tuesday. Kohl condemned the violence and called for justice for those who took part in violent acts. Cole says the president bears some responsibility for what occurred but says he will not support. Impeachment differ with my college in the majority. I do not believe there. Proposed course of action. Impeachment is the appropriate solution. I can think of no action. the can take is more likely to further. Divide the american people and by putting the country through the trauma of another impeachment. As i speak today. We're just eight days from the end of president trump's term of office next week president-elect biden will take the oath of office as the president of the united states at a time like this we should be seeking a path forward Healing a path toward healing the american people but instead majorities rushing to judgment without due process. The house wednesday began debate on an impeachment resolution against the president tribes in montana have vaccinated healthcare workers for covid nineteen and are moving forward on plans for community members. Yellowstone public radio's caitlyn nicholas reports last week the rocky boy health center which serves the chippewa cree in northern montana initiated phase two of the rocky boy covid nineteen vaccination plan misty denny the health centers public information officer says the scheduling team began calling elders age. Sixty five and older on december thirty first to schedule appointments or trying to discourage any kind of elderly patients from this show enough so they've been working diligently to contact the eligible recipients directly by phone danny says the clinic vaccinated healthcare workers from its initial shipment of two hundred doses of moderna vaccine and is using the remainder of its second shipment of two hundred doses for elders prioritizing those over seventy five with medical conditions most montana counties are still in there i roll out of the vaccine to healthcare workers who have direct contact exposure with the virus however other tribes in montana including the crow northern cheyenne black feet fort belknap indian community and the confederated salish and kootenai tribes started vaccinating elderly tribal members. This week. After completing the first phase of vaccinations all tribal members are prioritized to receive the vaccine under montana's vaccination plan native americans and montana have experienced disproportionately high rates of infection and mortality from the corona virus for national native news. I'm caitlyn nicholas. The navajo nation has connected more than seven hundred homes to the electrical grid using covid nineteen relief funds as arizona. Public radio's ryan hinds reports the navajo tribal utility. Authority is using nearly forty million dollars from last year's cares act to improve power lines grid capacity the tribe intended to bring power to about five hundred homes before the end of last year but was able to exceed. The goal is crews worked long hours over several months. It's a continuation of the light up navajo project that began in two thousand nineteen about a quarter of the fifty five thousand households on the navajo nation. Aren't connected to the electrical grid. It prevents access to running water reliable lighting heating and cooling as well as modern refrigeration and internet access the navajo tribal utility authority is also installing. Solar power systems in two hundred homes and several families have received bathroom additions in water. Cisterns using cares act funding. It's all part of a broad plan approved by the tribe in august for electrical water infrastructure and broadband projects in all the federal covid relief package allocated more than seven hundred million dollars to the navajo nation for national native news. I'm ryan hunches in flagstaff and demand. Tony gonzales natural native news is produced by colonic broadcast corporation with funding by the corporation for public broadcasting support by the sonam ski chambers law firm championing tribal sovereignty and defending native american rights since one thousand nine hundred. Seventy six with offices in washington. Dc new mexico. California and alaska support by the association of american indian physicians and the samsa sponsored opioid response networking the nation to address the opioid crisis in tribal communities information and support at a p dot org native voice one the native american radio network. This is native america calling. I'm tara gatewood joining you live from my homeland of sheer would be skype. The achievement gap for native. American students is well documented through the years native k. Through twelve students have some of the lowest test scores graduation rates on top of that the federal communications commission points out native households have among the lowest rate of access to broadband internet service and now a new study finds native students are among those who are disproportionately affected by the shutdown of in person classes because of the cove nineteen pandemic the report by mckinsey and company looked at last year's test scores and found that students of color including native american students were further behind in math and reading coming up. We'll speak with educators about how their students are faring. And we'd like to hear from you too as a teacher or a parent. Are you concerned about your students education. What challenges do you face getting. Your native students connected to the internet and keeping track of their schoolwork in tests. Give us a call at one. Eight hundred nine six two eight four eight also. One eight hundred nine nine native and joining us today from tucson. Arizona is kimberly danka ba- gay and she is the president of the arizona indian education association and program coordinator for the amphitheater public schools native american education program and she has kiowa caddo and pony. My pleasure ever hear kimberly. Welcome to native america calling. Good morning Tear this is Thank you for allowing me. This opportunity to be a part of the program and just for purposes of how i introduced myself. I just introduced myself mykhailo language now. am toyota. I'm going to Going good chali mossy not oklahoma aimed. Kimberly thank hoppy. Gate alcon My name as much in is kimberly delegate. And i'm coming to you from tucson arizona. I've been here working for the theater. Public schools twelve years I'm sorry for nine years. And i've been with the arizona indian education association for the past five to six years very nice and just hearing that i can see your view into this issue is really critical. And talk to me a little bit. Kimberly about what you have witnessed in of course your concerns with how things have progressed over the last year with the pandemic go ahead. Sure what i've seen and witnessed coming from an overall statewide look on how the pandemic has affected. Our native. students is very alarming We it's no surprise that our students have already been lagged behind left behind in the area of faculty just in general Just due to of course one of my main passion concerned as a curriculum that's being utilized out the at the public school systems And just the funding. That's not being provided to assist our schools to help our students to become academically successful But with the onset of the pandemic and through the course of this seen what has happened over the past year a lot of our students have felt fallen further behind and mainly in the areas of math reading those are science classes and areas of You know something that they already had a hard time keeping up with. And with the onset of the pandemic is just enhanced that detriment- detrimental effect on her students and so that mainly causes d to going to online virtual learning remote learning Not having to adjust to that transition but also not being able to have access to that To the internet a lot of our rule schools. have problems with connecting to the internet or not even having that broadband service provided to them. And of course we Those who are in education. Know that n- you know. The funding really isn't there to provide that for the broadcast in rural areas. And so it's been a really detrimental effect on a banner native students in those areas. Not only that. But even with the public school districts such as the one that i work for here in tucson area Our parents still have that problem. Even though we're right here in the big city Connecting to the internet isn't something that maybe they don't have access to for whatever reasons whether it's personal or just you know not able to have that service provided in their homes So we provide packets to go out to students but It's still there's a transportation issue with a lot of our families that excuse me that we serve as here As well as you know across the state and so a lot of our students are lagging behind. The students that are currently work with Those are the areas in the math of reading that really Highlight what they're having problems with A lot of our native students are visual learners. So it's it was easier for them to see in person of you know the problem that was being done. They cut right on the board or You know talk to the teacher. Transitioning over into a virtual round a little takes assessment especially for those who aren't used to being on the computer or talking to somebody over a machine and so it's a lot of adjusting for students. But i do see that that is having a detrimental effect upon all of our native students. Just trying to adjust and to catch up to With their studies in this also involves parents in right now on parents or teachers Or the ones who are helping their students. You know understand this technology. What about that part of it. Maybe that's where you come into this conversation. We want to hear from you. Some of the challenges maybe even some celebrations in the way you come over some of them. Give us a call. One eight hundred nine six two eight. Four eight is the number kimberly anything you want to share about thinking parents. Feeling some of these gaps absolutely Our parents are now. We have parents who maybe have our teleworking from home. So they're not only trying to do their job that they normally do but they're also having to become a teacher and in that capacity it's balancing you know making that time for their students for their child to Understand their schoolwork Even for me as a mom. I had two children that went through the public. School system. The way they learn today was a lot different than i learned in my day and so trying to help even my own children through that process. I can only feel and understand where parents are now coming from even more so with having to deal with having their children at home all the time and trying to balance that work and taking time to help their students and even more if they don't understand the work or know how to do a math problem you know i. It's a lot different than maybe what they were taught. And so you know. Our hearts always go out to our parents More so just because of that Specific y- issue that they have to deal with and so we try to provide those resources for our parents. We try to provide encouragement especially for parents and to also Help our Remind our parents to provide continue providing those teaching home. You know within our program. We always tell our parents that education begins at home. You know especially for our native families. You begin learning from the day you were born and through those teachings those values those customs and so that helps you know our students to remember where they are and where they come from and to know that what they're doing and what they're accomplishing. What they're going to accomplish will one day come help our people and so just trying to encourage parents to remind their children that and also that we are here to help them if they need assistance. parents were you. Give us a ring. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight also here to washington. Dc is diana lawyer and she is the executive director of the national indian education association. And she is from the oglala sioux tribe our pleasure to have her here diana thank you for being with us for another native america calling thank you and afternoon. Good morning. Everybody listening in the communities. Thank you for the indiana just any initial comments. You wanna make go ahead. you know. it's hard to make. Any kind of comment is already set or thoughts. That i think what we need to do collectively not it's not just native nations but even the public school system and education advocates organizations influencers. We need to start reassessing and thinking of How this american education system looks we as educators From the ground all the way up to the top to the federal level were shocked in march and april of last year than education system. That was not functional not Effective as well as we thought it would be across all of our community. Yes it's disparities equities but what kogas and the pandemic pot shown up. Was that this. American education system doesn't work for all of our students doesn't work for all Thoughts and philosophy that doesn't work for all belief systems. And and i know and i a and a lot of our tribal communities and agencies and organizations have been saying this for a very long time and it took a pandemic to To slap reality and a lot of people's faces to show what we've been arguing advocating for. This is not work. And i'm not saying that. This organization on myself individually has the answers but collectively. We have had the answers. We'd been advocating for change. This can't be focused on standards anymore. We've got to start looking at communities in school Personally we have to look at the different staunton philosophies our culture language and how does that in You pray into our daily life. Kim said we've been learning since we were born. Why can't that learning dot philosophy extent into the classroom from now is the time to make that. Concept has a lot of power in it in just thinking about you know extending this beyond your parameters that fit on paper and when we think of the opportunity that is being missed for our students i know that talks about you. Know our our future leaders in our communities of the potential and things that our students can do. There's a lot that needs to be said. I know you'd like to say some to go ahead and join us at one. Eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is a number two also one eight hundred nine native on the next native america calling native in the spotlight worked on joe biden's presidential campaign and built a consultant business helping drives with complex issues. Clara pratt recently won a prestigious environmental award. When we sign on air again won't find out what drives her success and what her hopes are for twenty twenty one support by roswell park who know tribal communities face persistent challenges in health equity such as cancer and higher death rates the centre for indigenous cancer research at roswell park. Comprehensive cancer center is dedicated to advancing cancer research that will lead to translatable science medicine and cancer care for indigenous populations worldwide. Are you at high risk for cancer. A no charge online assessment tool is available at roswell park dot org slash assess me. You're listening to native america calling interrogate would misled pueblo. And we are talking about learning moss as a result of the covid nineteen pandemic today. Are you a teacher or pairing. Who is struggling to keep your students. On-track tell us about it. Join our conversation by calling one. Eight hundred nine nine six to eight for eight. That's also one eight hundred nine native with us today out of washington. Dc is danoy. Here she is the executive director of the national indian education association. Here too out of tucson. Arizona is kimberly dang klopp gay and she is the president of the arizona indian education association. My pleasure have both of them here. And diana the future of our children you know having this time in their life and their education story. What are your thoughts water. We really talking about of why if adequate adequate education isn't happening now to them what this will mean them. Five years from now. Twenty years from now any thoughts diana yeah i think it will influence their opportunities shrink opportunities from five opportunities to one opportunity and i'm thinking about our students that live in rural areas where they go to public school tribal bureau school private charter Or school it's little. Areas are isolated. Herring the students. That don't that already came in It's like came to the playground behind. They came to the playground. And all in an area of an could begin with the pandemic has pulled the onion back those layers and just shown more What's frustrating as an as a parent. This is something that out of their control. The system that they go to school in is out of their control. The system is out of a parents control out of a communities control out of our tribal leaders control these systems that we go to school in entrust upon our systems that are placed upon us and we have zero control other through other than who advocacy advocate to your local your school board your local leaders or state leaders now your federal eaters because change has to happen for these opportunities to multiply for our students and i'm not just talking about natives. I'm talking about all. Students who work negatively affected by this pandemic and those numbers are pretty high when we think about our own tribal communities and diana when we heard from kimberly and what is going on there in arizona. Use a national view. What are some of the things you're hearing from some of the different areas and maybe even ways people are figuring out how to navigate or pushing back against This gap this learning loss. Nationally user conversation around broadband and axa and i think we Collectively as national advocates. A fair job and advocating to get more money out into our communities. I believe one of the stories. We heard this coming into. Our intro was internet and electricity to navajo nation home. This is a story that i'm hearing across a lot of our tribal communities and a lot of our rural areas and that's the coburg funding so i think that's a positive space as far as At the federal level goes the big conversation to hearing in education associations and organizations. We can't keep pushing. Standardized testing. can't keep pushing assessment until we fix a broken system so it's going to have to come from a federal or national organization conversation to start making those changes of these conversations are happening and are The equities are a part of the conversation grants and pushing folks to influence what happens at the state level. What's really frustrating. As you come across and that across all states you have potentially fifty different ways of looking at assessing on addressing musicians. And it's a challenge when you get to the federal level per chrishell funding to support fifty different solutions. I think there need not saying. I wanna bashful education system national education philosophy but i think collaboration and partnerships communication is key. When we're making solutions where advocating to push more money into a system for a fixed. We need to ensure that the is solid. We need to ensure that its effective. And if it's happening in once maybe could have potentially support in another community in critical questions. Were also asking you today. What are your thoughts one. Eight hundred nine six two eight. Four eight is the number. Thank you for that. Diana and want to add another voice. We're going to go to mesa. Arizona to say hello to esther nice nystrom who is a program specialist for mesa public schools native american education program. She is navajo in our pleasure to have her here. Esther welcome thank you very much for having me I'm going to introduce myself. That asia kato it shouldn't it shouldn't twitchy nicolas to she. Does she taper that kind of knows. Ah estrin nostrum Yeah my name. Is esther nice jeremiah. Some mesa public schools native american education program Thank you for having me this morning. I welcome At out in our community. Thank you for that and esther thinking about going into all of this were educators prepared for what came in what you're witnessing now. And how have they made adjustments. If not okay come Myself i am a certified teacher coming from the classroom and then moving into Different administrative positions There was definitely a moment where teachers had to take a deep breath and realize that things are changing we were not ready Prepared for this pandemic You know in our education careers when we're born this. A pandemic hasn't happened for quite some time. So the online systems outward definitely really ready because they were already in that mode of remote learning. How ever are in person classes which wasn't even talked about you know in person remote Partial was not even prepared for so back in march when this happened and he had to make that transition into An emergency mode of everyone's stay home. We have to figure this out we've learned not ready However within the past couple of months it has been up to the school district to decide that best outcome for their students. And what's that burning with. Looks like so Boosting up -education for our teachers who were not Trained to be online a remote teachers there were increasing teachers. They district had to stop That education on how that puts and changing and increasing the modalities of instructions and integrated best practices. Still in the remote setting. And what about the students. What are you hearing from. Students will kind of stories are coming out in being the people who are in this gap so at the very beginning There were a lot of gripe and complaints Saying this is not gonna happen This is not the work that came from our parents as well. So i received phone calls almost every day saying What do i do here. Doesn't teachers have lesson plans and also Styles of learning and. I'm you know taking some time to transition into a remote learning best practices for our teachers in pants to get involved right now. there are less phone calls Let's great he didn't. I'm moving forward with their online classes. However there's some they'll disconnect this well I believe disconnect of Not being personally interacting with their friends and also live you. That personal interaction is really important. Has affected the social emotional learning of our students. In you know that. That's a big part of this in. Sometimes you know we we get the numbers of where students are Who's attending classes. But that other side of the story isn't always heard Maybe you have incorporated native america calling into your students day or you. The student wanted to put it in there. And you're listening today. We wanna hear from you. Two one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight is the number. Let's go ahead and take a call we're going to say. Hi to melvin. Who is in santana. Brassica tuned in on casey white-cain melvin. Thank you for reaching out go ahead. You're in the mix During the pandemic here was at the clinic to get checked. And i noticed i mean really noticed. All our professionals were white. Doctors nurses and techs all their most. Where's your in people you know. And i went over and i talked to the chairman and roger trudell i should oh our education public education your disaster plus. Our college actually declare a disaster. Start all over because during this pandemic time we're trying to figure out how to do home education and all that ramaz just redo the whole education. Because i sent my daughter to a private school public school and i was able to see the difference in the academic. The academic is too key. Kids aren't getting quality at today's really See it work force. We better quality education that nelson appreciate your comments redo the whole system in this is a moment where some of that seems like a potential seeing all of the things that are happening now and maybe it's time to redesign all of this. What do you think one eight hundred nine nine. Six two eight four eight. Thank you for that. Melvin also here to decay into arizona. is dr victoria. Uc she is a secretary of the navajo nation. Board of education and the secretary for the national johnson o'malley association. She is dna our pleasure to have her here with us today. Dr gyasi welcome to native america calling. Oh got akshay donna. antony But on the airbus's chain ashamed that should change tore had leaning dash another look. How great in our show putting the patient on ish not audit dice. I the quite do jensen. This'll her late. Unfortunate cut on metal doors yet and any gi highlight La in boston it. The whole pa button kin no poodle you hit you. Hadid shit didn't know ecuadoran juhasz seat on the auto. She could always been gonig. Hana steeple thank you for giving me this time to speak on behalf of the national johnson molly association also in also including the navajo nation. My name is dr gyasi. And i just introduce myself in my own. Native tongue. appreciating time opportunity to speak this smarting or does afternoon to you all. Thank you for that in dr gyasi. Let's move into as the semester that we just jumped into in. We've heard you know some of the disparities going on but as we get into another semester in many of which is going to be online classes Distance learning what is your thought. Kind of support is being given to students like just like to say here on navajo nation First of all we have a public house order navajo department of health in regards. You know office of environmental health and protection program. A lot of Our decisions are Made in regards to the navajo nation. President and vice president's office in regards to continue to stay at home shelter in place walked on orders Additional usually the addition of two weeks including fifty seven. Our weekend lockdown are happening here on the navajo nation with that sad That goes to with that order in place now who nation. Ob office we have to resort to online distance. Learning and a lot of our staff In regards to Are where we're at as a hotspot area so a lot of the work that we are doing is working from home and working remotely from home and at this time. That's what is happening. And yes there are This coming semester there are talks in regards on the navajo nation. Board of education level of Really having students still be Throughout this entire semester distant. Learning where i know with public schools. A lot of their focus is to have onsite learning available to their students just because on their their thought process is The information that is given to students in guards of education is not in place well enough in regards to a lot of Others have mentioned not having to wi wifi access or devices available to to them because they live in rural areas and a lot of information. Education lesson objectives are being given are on in terms of educational packets in. About how many students are we talking about on the navajo nation. On the nation. The two hundred two hundred and fifty thousand. I can double check right now but as the quiet quiet. Larger numbers enema skin. Just to kind of get a ballpark. When we talk about our native students in again they are the people who will be heading up. Her native nations Keeping him safe keeping them healthy in when we have this kind of gap. What does it lead to your thoughts. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight is a number and we are hearing from people who are in the circle of education. And what have you witnessed in your own family. You can share your thoughts with us today. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is a number. Maybe you are that teacher who is facing all of this and understand what it means to go fully online. What would you like to add to this conversation. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight is a number and we know we also have tribal leaders in our listening audience. What are some of your thoughts. When things started to happen a scene more closures seeing things going on with the pandemic. What was your thought about the education of our students. If you put anything into place council members of your online if you're listening to some of your thoughts was education the first thing you said we gotta make sure this is a being taken care of to want to hear from you. All thoughts are welcome. Where heading into another semester. Were in another semester. What other kinds of challenges come with the spring semester and you want to share some thoughts or ready to hear anything you'd like to share dialing now one eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is number. Go and give us a ring. Keep the phone lines open support. By the association of american indian physicians and the samsa sponsored opioid response network working with tribal communities across the nation to address the opioid crisis. Breaking the cycle starts with preventing opioid misuse treating opioid use disorder with medications and counseling and recovery support during all phases of recovery. If you or loved one is challenged by opioid use disorder. You can find additional information at a p dot org. Thanks for tuning. Into native. America calling interrogate would and we're focusing on learning loss for students as a result the pandemic. If you're an educator. Is this something. You're witnessing in your school. There is still time to join our conversation. Were at one eight hundred nine six. Two eight four eight. That's also one eight hundred nine nine native right right before the break. Introduce you to dr victoria. Who joins us today. Out of k into arizona and she is a secretary of the navajo nation board of education and doctor gyasi when we think of this gap I'm also wondering about graduation and dropout rates Any thoughts on this of you know how this will affect our graduation rates or if there is anything you can report on students being absent dropping out any thoughts. Thank you question man Due to lack of internet access and they see his cannot access online lessons. They need to be given paper packets or make arrangements for them to access to internet edition. They also need support for dealing with stress and other emotional needs especi- e when they are experience when they experience family members dying from kobe. Teachers they also need continuous support for online teaching many have adapted to on my teaching but there are still other struggling with using technology as a tool that this time for not only our students but also our staff and also our parents and grandparents and a lot of in our home. Our our grandparents our teachers of our students to graduate And the community itself and each of the community here onto novel nation in surrounding areas. Are you know doing their best to provide Curriculum curriculum development or social emotional learning or understanding trauma reaching out teaching children who have the trauma or experience Fan loss of covid nineteen. We've been trained to provide Building resiliency Working on connecting. I think what put all brings us back Navajo people as the net is the knowing of having the clan system that kinship system in navajo they call like having that Family values and family respecting an having those traditional values within their home within their whole gone within their foundation brings stability to what is happening with this pandemic dynamic and the student who have those teachings from their family Those great teams from their families are really. I think are laying down the the role for other students who are meeting that support and help in the online distance learning. So they've been in these times in a lot of people are definitely taking the opportunity to infuse more of our teachings our understandings and even this system into other students education. And i know a lotta people are saying this has been a silver lining in some of this and parents are even able to bring in some of the language into a student's school day and so there are some things that you know. We are seeing because of this too and so there is stuff still to be celebrated and as we get a clearer picture as to what educators as well as students are facing this year. If there's any thoughts you have go ahead and dial in one eight hundred nine six two eight. Four eight duck gyasi. Thank you for that also here to from an. it is diana konare and she joins today out of washington. Dc and. dan also wanted to toss that question to you about dropout rates and graduation rates. Is there anything you can report on that. I don't have hard numbers hunting. Like most people. We just have Projections we know. Dropout rates are high I echo what The call the parent called in and said a lot of our parents are choosing to move their students from a public. School system Maybe even a charter system a charter system. That could be online. And i'm just going to say epic because that is an online successful charter system. I'm not promoting them specifically but that is an example of what i'm hearing in urban areas writer urban suburban areas. They do have more opportunities for school choice and they're able to move their student from a public system to a school. That might have a better track record for being online and supporting students I have heard and this is just again in our community talking and sharing frustrations and information a lot of our juniors and seniors. What are they want to drop out or or having to drop out because they have younger siblings or Nieces and nephews that they need to take care of teach so making a choice as our community members. Do not take care of themselves but take care of others so we do have a lot of Juniors and seniors that are choosing to You know opt out this year to help the collective help their younger siblings and relatives be Be successful thank you for that. And what are you experiencing as. Well one eight hundred nine six two eight four eight also here to albuquerque. New mexico is uh sheen dana ba- gay and she is a trained specialists with epochs that stands for education for parents of indian children with special needs. She is dna. And it's our pleasure to have her here with us session. Dana welcome good afternoon Yacht ask those should the Like but she in honest edgier adopted guy cutini. Mistletoe auditing buses team cobra. Does it change though. that's mela. Hello everyone my name. Is shane dana. Be gay and i am. Benny white corn clan adopted by the red running into the water clan born for bitter water my maternal grandfather is the edgewater clan and my paternal grandfather's clan is the two met at the water. Hello everyone thank you for having me our pleasure and thank you for introducing yourself in that way and understanding the relations that you come from is really important in all of this and you connect to a lot of students through epix and of course you know we definitely want to hear about how all this is unfolding for special needs students. So give us a view. What are you hearing. What are some of the adjustments that are having to be made. Go ahead okay. well Some of the families that i've been working with are having a hard time with their their children being one on one with their children who have special education needs And just kind of balancing their life around The school making sure that their children are are attending each and every one of thirty classes and online Zoo mean and just everything that intel's with them occupational therapy speech therapy and just juggling all the appointments online. It is very overwhelming for my parents. That i helping through do this time and also Just kind of the connection and the rural area is another Part that's really really I need So with some of my Parents that i've been doing. I have a parent ambassadors training. That i help parents band. You know the iep Portion of their special education and i also Help them understand their the parents rights and the students right as well and with this. This is very difficult because some of the parents you know that they've never really had to go online so i would help them Step by step and also another thing. That's pretty alarming is Getting the parents to advocate for their child children So i just Help them in any way. I can and some of the questions that they have. We go by step whether it may be writing a complaint letters to the school or Looking for more resources throughout the state in so just seeing dana. When you talk about you know helping parents understand their rights. What are some of the things that you were having discussions about or things. You'd like to inform especially parents with students with special needs about things that they should be speaking up on. Are there any things that you'd like to share Yes like the understanding the individualized program The iep Which entails bullied children and then early education as well The ifs's individualized family service program and just addressing the to Documents that helped Get services or their children through the school and to get everyone on the same page to understand that the services needs to be met by the school and with the and also just The parents rights then to see jewel safeguards in special education is another thing that i would like to Let parents know that you know they. They do have that right to advocate for their child. And and a lot of the parents that i do work with. Don't know how to go about that. So i show them a different way to collaborate and to network with different Professional to help get that taking care of in wind. Some of this is going on it. You know we. You know. want to hear how students are faring in. We're talking about a lot of screen time all day in this is something we can hear from our guests on but for you session. Dana anything to share about what this means for students to be onscreen all day. oh yes. It's pretty overwhelming for the students of the families that i've helped work with. They just have so much homework to be turned in. And i think the the parents the parents and the teachers are giving a lot of homework to the children and the children are kind of add a standpoint where they don't know what to do so the parents kind of end up helping them turn in their homework but when the test come in that's when they figure out you know like that the Where they need more help on how to implement the the lessons and to what they learned instead of just doing the work for them you know the end to be counted as a attended attendant for that day there on the screen most of the day and they get very frustrating especially for the kids who have so much energy and a. They need to go play. They need to do different things. Walk around and being fed up a screen and you'd like to highlight when we talk about this time in everything that is brought forward in you know especially for students anything more. You want to share such dana. Yeah Well i would just like to encourage each and every family's To know that you know there's there's parent resources centers out there and each state and ethics is one of the resources here in new mexico to help parents understand their child rights and we also Have a training for parents and if their parents out there are interested. In our paired cheney's i can Give them more information Our website is epics. Am dot work and we have a conference coming up a virtual conference coming up so everyone can take take a look at that on our website for more information and again The parent training is for parents. Who wants to understand. More about the Special education System in their schools. And i eat and we can. Yeah i can before all right. Thank you for that player to have you on the line today and as we get ready to wrap things up we are looking at it. Inauguration coming up new administration What are your thoughts on. How this will shift thinks if any diana From by diana lawyers. Here in indiana. I wanna get your take on that. Thanks yes We hope it will shift and we hope it will shift the conversation. We hope it will shift attention but more important. We hope we're at the table This past administrations. We saw a lot of cuts at the department of education in various departments and hold apartments being absolved to save federal funding. But we wanna make sure moving forward to To address these inequities in native communities tribal communities and for native students in urban and rural schools. We've got gotta be at the table and part of the solution and this administration so far in our conversations with biden harris transition team. They are asking for solutions from our communities from our perspective and points of view. And that's a huge change of the last four years. So i have hope and i want everyone else to begin having hope but the voice comes from us we have to empower ourselves. This administration is gonna do What administrations have done in the past. It's running government running a system that he's existed for hundreds of years and that we have been left out of so moving forward the hope. Is there the support. Should be there but we can't stand aside. We have to begin. Advocating aggressively advocating Through education and through. And i know he'd done that i've seen it before our protests. I've seen changes happen when we collectively come together to advocate on on one issue or multiple issues That those are my partying wirtz. I just want everybody to know that. Their We have to have hope in order to move forward congressional in diana any context you'd like to share people want to connect yes my Email the o. You are in a y. e. r. and i a. dot org. Our website has a ton of resources and information. www dot n. i. e. dot org and my contact information on the website as well all right. Thank you for that. And that's going to wrap up our program today. But what is your students story if you would like to reach out. Tell us a little bit about it. You can always email us comments. At native america calling dot com or on social media. Facebook twitter and instagram. And thank you to everybody that we heard from inner program today. Esther nystroem kimberly dank lobby. Gay doctor victoria gyasi. They in ignore and session dina began. Thank you all for being with us and tomorrow. We hope you'll join us for discussion with our january. Need in the spotlight claire pratt. I'm tara gatewood. 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Mass shooting challenges the core US national identity

PRI's The World

46:12 min | 1 year ago

Mass shooting challenges the core US national identity

"The president trump calls on all americans to condemn racism and white supremacy an an expert on civil conflicts says u._s. Political leaders must be more careful with the rhetoric. We need this to be the story from now on in order to dampen the level of violence because because now we're tens if not hundreds of people dying as a result of these kinds of sentiments. I'm marco werman today. We hear from an asylum seeker in mexico. He says trump's border. Policies are understandable for myself. I think he's doing the best way he tried to the best for united states we also have a moving story story of a reunion right here in our studio that beautiful moment and more org today here on the world america is in grief after two deadly mass shootings over the weekend. People are also grieving in mexico. Seven of the victims shot and killed at that walmart in el paso texas on saturday were mexican second nationals. President trump mentioned them in his statement today from the white house. Today we also send the condolences of our nation to president overdue. You're mexico and all the people of mexico for the loss of their citizens in the el paso shooting terrible terrible thing trump also spoke directly to what appear to be a motivation in one of the shootings the shooter in el paso posted a manifesto online consumed consumed by racist hate in one voice our nation must condemn racism bigotry and white supremacy <hes> that was his largest denunciation of weight negativism and this sort of extremist rhetoric and action but i don't think it's too late to dampen it but but we we need this to be the story from now on in order to dampen the level of violence that was monica duffy toft will hear more from her later in the show today but we begin with the world's immigration editor monica campbell who covers the u._s. mexico border and what she's been hearing. There's a collective morning on both sides. I was checking being with people in what is el paso and also in other parts of the border and <hes> one of the pastors that i met when i was in ciudad juarez recently he runs a migrant shelter in that city in he said that he was including prayers for people from mexico and the united states in this weekend services everybody everybody was. You know another ways kind of bracing themselves for something like this. I think just not just along the border but among latino communities and people live poor brown in the united states were bracing themselves for something horrible like this to happen in some ways. It's not surprising with the rhetoric in the country. You recently got back monica from tijuana san diego border where you are an assignment and this week. We're going to be hearing a series of your stories from there called the waiting room. What have you been looking at exactly what i've been looking at how you with the changes and u._s. policy at the border the reality that thousands of migrants are now waiting in mexico. <hes> you hear people say it that it's become this big waiting room. You know and i wanted to go back to tijuana to see the and hear what that's like. How are people managing. These prolonged weights. What's it like for somebody who's just arrived to the border to see other people. Who've been there for nearly early year. I also want to see how people were living. You know the day to day living conditions and how people are thinking about what's next. How long can mm people wait on the mexico side of the border would of those daily calculations like right and despite what we hear about migrant caravans coming from central america. You've found it to be along the border. There and increasingly international mix of people not just central america absolutely i mean it's still large central american people from honduras el salvador guatemala tamala but also people from mexico asylum-seekers people fleeing dangerous parts of mexico arriving to the u._s. Mexico border in this case tijuana and seeking asylum from their own country in being forced to wait at the border in mexico so that is something that's always striking to me. Mexicans being kept opt in mexico wanting to find a safe place to live. It's also a very international increasing international group of people at the border their entire apartment buildings things in tijuana filled with people from cameroon from haiti from cuba from ethiopia <hes> including the person that will hear from next in this first story story. His name is one rochman and he's from iraq a young man from iraq in tijuana and he told me how he he made his way to the u._s. Mexico border incredibly long journey but also wind that is not too unusual to find at certain parts of the border all right monica. Thanks for that setup. What's your story. Rodwin rochman had never done anything like this for one week. He says he trekked through the sharing gap. It's a stretch of rainforest running from colombia to panama. Anyone who's migrated north by land from south america knows about it. It's grueling ruling and dangerous rowen took videos for his mom along the way aardvark by six hours of walking each day. He says in the video the jungles so dense. It's like night under the canopy. There are no roads rowen. Who's twenty eight years old is is drenched in sweat and his following this swampy path dotted with empty water bottles but he isn't alone and points to people with him and oh she's from cuba from nepal to from scuba the three from iraq nepal cuba in the iraqis that includes ruin and his older brother all headed for the united states for ruin that was just one lake in his three month journey north. Many migrants choose to travel by land because they're are tighter visa restrictions for air travel. When we met the other day rowen had reached the border and was into qana mexico it ruins new here. It's just a five. He says that he and his brother spent their first two nights in tijuana wanna on the street until they got some money wired from home. Now they're sharing an apartment with six other migrants from yemen people me my breath on six from yemen so you're eight people staying in their people eight guys in two small rooms in a rough part of downtown. We bay three three hundred dollars divided by that's about forty dollars each month. There's one bed that two of the men share and some mats rolled up in a corner. There's backpacks and a plastic bottle cut in half doubling as an ashtray. No furniture just fan blasting we sit in the stairwell and rwanda tells me that in iraq he lived in the kurdistan region. He was a welder and a political activist. Just protesting corruption. He said that led to constant threats and beatings but he also had friends in brazil in sao paulo. They said get the visa and come here so he did for years early. In brazil i work birther. Dennis car was stolen. He says he was robbed at gunpoint so i lose our what i have so all my life be danger in iraq brazil to. He says he wants to be somewhere somewhere safer. I say the best place for me is united states even though he doesn't know anyone in the u._s. But it's a decision that put him on that path through the jungle and the three central america by marcus rica got agua andras guatemala and mexico. What was the hardest part of that trip mexco exco mexico. He says it was police. Demanding bribes to continue north. We pay to them money. He says an officer in mexico demanded did five hundred dollars to let him keep migrating rwanda push back and gave him two hundred year this a lot too and ruin says he came same to you wanna because someone along the way said you can get across the border faster here. Some people say the guana more good more easy forrester the process but the process can be slow just a few walks from here. There's the plaza where some migrants put their name on a list to see he a u._s. Immigration official and apply for asylum thousands are on the list. It moves slowly some days not at all. We're one on says. He'll put his name on the list in weight. You know we have to go because we don't have any way to enter the united states. That's the only way for me. Ah i listen so many people they jump. Are they have people. They pay to stay here to three months. We we don't have any choice. He says he doesn't want to jump out. It's we got what's do for us for what god has feed everyone and and we are waiting of god's help us. He also says that he understands why the trump administration is making it tougher for migrants to enter the united states wants once that everyone should be vetted before entering the country for myself. I think he's doing the best way. He tried to the best for united states he he got an old. He got an who i am festival. He got an i am for you. He's doing to his jami hub for me. Heart worked for me hard fissile. He got a thing about his county. Not three then had to go. He was heading to pray at a mosque nearby it close to the beach here and the border fence a bit of peace and comfort with so much uncertainty head for the world monica campbell. Do you wanna the protests in hong kong not letting up in fact. They're only getting more intense. They began back in june but in recent days there have been more scenes in the chinese territory of clashes clashes between protesters and police lots of tear gas and even some fires earlier today i spoke with the b._b._c.'s danny vincent while he was on the streets of hong kong from some of the pictures. We've been seeing on twitter danny. It makes it look like there's mayhem are are you sensing that. The protesters are getting more aggressive in their tactics as well as authorities pushing back. That's why the processes actually gets to be more aggressive. Receding more sophisticated weapons now originally purposely turning tight umbrellas to these protests in that be relatively defensive now these brennan a used as a way to attack also saying protestors smashing breaks and swear at the place many processes seemed very comfortable with that level of violence but other protesters this violence even father other willing to set fires once they've built some barricades to try to hold the spiked so these protesters that becoming increasingly auden's let becoming more militants how much of the city has been caught up in all of this is it i'm kind of isolated to one part of the territory and it's kind of business as usual and much of you've the rest of hong kong now there are many phone call affected by these protest movements but they have deliberately targeted different areas and its allies people especially people that local communities to come out onto the streets but we have seen today is that the purchase code for a general strike many the industry supported the process and decided not to go to work but they also tried to force a strike for people that had chosen to take all and i did that by train n._c. Who's traffic jams. Try and say block the subway system here and that of course is definitely frustrated asserts and section of society who feel the older that perhaps what they're doing is now clearly affecting that that today life is affecting businesses is affecting their choosy so make money so officials was <hes> in mainland china. Danny seemed to be on the sidelines watching how these protest play out at what point do they say enough is enough and assert themselves and what does that look. It's like well. We're in uncharted waters hair if he mostly guys the possibility of the people's liberation all main entering into the streets of hongkong wrong end essentially cracking down on this protest movement that was something which most observers much journalists full was not really possible in modern china. It's simply. It's not something that would have been winning sedating. It's very conscious of how it savings nationally and in many ways teen to portray itself as a modern harmonious sonia's society and country but things have changed quite rapidly here. China does have the the right legally see sending the trait exclusively stage. We sent you how this ends the b._b._c.'s danny vincent in hong kong. Thanks for your time. Danny thank you. I'm marco werman. This is the world president donald trump spoke to the nation earlier today about the mass shootings in ohio and and in texas the shooter el paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate in one voice <music>. Our nation was condemned racism bigotry and white supremacy these sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in america hatred warps. The mind ravages the heart and devours the sole trump called saturday's attack in el paso domestic terrorism it might well be trump's strongest condemnation of racist violence today but it follows several years of this sort of thing. The u._s. has become a dumping ground bringing drugs. They're bringing crime their rapists. You also had people that were very fine. People on both sides the sender backchat their recent trump rally directed at congresswoman illinois more. It's the kind of rhetoric from the president that many see empowering a white nationalist fringe in this country will avoid quoting the shooter's hateful manifesto but it does reflect a world view shared by other young white supremacist extremists from norway to new zealand. They believe their national identity is under threat from changing demographics. That's how monica duffy toft sees that she's a professor vessel at tufts university and a leading expert on the roots of civil conflict and civil war <hes> let me start monica with the question you asked in an article early this year what happens wanna countries core national identity no longer matches its demographic reality well at what it does is at least a quite a bit of anxiety and trepidation among those some some segment of those who were formerly in the majority they feel as if they're going to lose political and economic power and so they sort of react to what they i see. Is you know what they feel. As if dramatic changes within their country and what they think should be the makeup of that country they have an ideal in their head what they think like the country is supposed to look like in the case of the united states is largely white christian and i would go so far as to say protestant christian <hes> an and also with males in charge and so we've seen a lot of dramatic changes in the country and only now are we saying it reflected much more publicly in the open and i would say politically as well so you you would argue that white christian americorps national identity. I mean what about nation of value. I wouldn't make that argument what i would say is there's some segments of the population elation that believes that that is what the core of the united states narrative <hes>. It's history is in has been forgetting that of course the united states is largely been a melting taking part since its inception since the founding of the country so you also can put this in context because you've studied over one hundred civil conflicts around the globe. What is the worst example. All of this pattern that you've seen the worst example is probably former yugoslavia in the early nineties where you saw shift particularly in kosovo that led to syrups tripped within kosovo feeling if the kosovar albanians had taken over there what they saw as their homeland territory and leading to first of all a civil war and then of course the break-up of former yugoslavia but we also saw similar dynamics in the soviet union i would go so far as to say you can tell pretty basic nick demographic historical narrative story for the break of the soviet union which is at the slavic population particularly the russian slavic population was becoming a minority and so there was a sense that okay can let the non-slaughter parts of the country go but we wanna hang onto this core and so today now russia's upwards of eighty two percent ethnically ethnically russian but in the late nineteen seventies it was going to be a minority as other parts of the union were growing having higher birth rates another paramedic as is lebanon and the break-up eleven on where you had different parts of the population sort of cooking the books actually not giving proper census accounts in order to maintain control over the political system and if you control the political system to large extent you can control on the economics and markets as well so in the case of russia you mentioned that today it's eighty two to percent ethnic russian. What what does that tell us about about this kind of pushback. What it tells you is that if it's allowed to sorta fester that it can lead to you know large scale violence it can it doesn't have to or it can lead to <hes> you know civil war and so what i've been studying i'm finishing up a book on this is is looking at these sorts of dynamics about how in the political arena wants us becomes public and gives vocalized like this. What are the dampers are the institutional mechanisms for sorta squashing and i'm a bit nervous right now in the united states because at the highest levels <hes> you are seeing this sort of antipathy this sentiment is hostile sentiment again non whites in the country and and you know they're being labeled criminals and you're using language about them being insects and invading the country and to me. This is the beginning of you know what i have seen in other cases where you may end up having pushed back right by those populations if they're strong enough and you can lead to large-scale violence or ready where you could see this. It's a slow moving revolution that's happening and and the question is is it going to be violent or not. Are you going to see the majority of whites <hes> and the majority of the country by the way you know let's not even talk about race that actually supports sports immigration and can actually get their voice heard and get it put into the political arena that we have some immigration reform sit we can move away from these levels of hostility living with a concern is as we know i i know that president trump today <hes> that was his largest denunciation of weight negativism and this sort of extremist rhetoric cricket action but i i don't think it's too late to dampen it but we we need to be the story from now on in order to dampen the level of violence because you know now we're tens if not hundreds of people dying as a result of these kinds of sentiments monica duffy toft professor of international politics at tufts university. Thanks for being with us today. Thank you very much. Pakistan is reacting with outrage today. After india's decision to end the state of kashmir's special status within india yeah today is the blackest deal indian democracy. That's mehbooba mufti. She's a former chief. Minister of the state of kashmir india a special status for kashmir provided some protections and atonomy for india's only majority muslim territory in less seventy years. The territory disputed between india in pakistan has sparked warren conflict between the two countries the b._b._c.'s. i see for rookie explains the rights given to kashmir's under the indian constitution so that was kind of a buffer between india and the state of kashmir which has now been taken away now. India can directly rule in kashmir but the indian government has argued that the arrangements stunted kashmir's development and its integration within the rest of india just prior to the decree today. The indian indian government started a security crackdown. A telephone lines our own since last night internet is not working. There's no yeah no way of communicating with the people in kashmir. It's kind of a situation which is very alarming. The indian government says that's been done onto preempt. Any violence. Pakistan of course has a very different take on the contested territory. It has long insisted that kashmir is internationally disputed and that india alone cannot decide to change status. The pakistani government is also saying it will exercise all options to counter the move the u._n. Secretary general antonio guitarfish rush has called for restraint from all parties. You're listening to the world to disin- cousins me for the first time generations after the slave trade tore their family apart somebody who was born in africa you get your process naked. That's person means you share a common ancestor who was taken to american four hundred the using of their stories still ahead on the world. I'm marco werman. This is the world a co production of the b._b._c. world service w. g._b._h. Boston p._r._i. N._p._r. ex you learn something new every day and journalism but sometimes it's job. It also allows me to witness some extraordinary uplifting moments. Thank goodness for that these days especially this moment happened on friday. I watched a reunion of sorts two sides of the same family. They didn't know one another well but they were thrilled to confirm their connection. The connection that has survived one of the most shameful eras in america's past. Our story starts with john capella who grew up in the democratic republic of congo. He teaches criminal justice at weber state university in ogden utah. He's long been interested in genealogy and had given a d._n._a. D._n._a. sample to a genetic testing side and found out he had hundreds of relatives in the americas cousins who are the ancestors of people enslaved and taken across the the atlantic and chains cappella arrange to meet three generations of those cousins here in our studio. I asked him what he was thinking about. Before the rendezvous with boston based business student i on a lakes her mother and her son. I was just dreaming that someday i could help. African americans find the african and route so i didn't know how to do it is a dream that has about to come true. You're about to meet one of your long lost cousins right now last night when you were in bed. I'm assuming lying awake wondering about this. What we thinking says if i was i was lost and somebody found the yeah i think they're coming in now through that door yeah so can i just have all of you. Introduce yourselves please and sir. Hi donna lakes hi. I'm terry and lakes so i on this is really a special moment. What do you think what are you feeling right now. I'm really excited i i was. I'm excited what what were you thinking last last night as you were lying in bed. Could you get to sleep not really really i was how's it going my goodness. What are we going to talk about. Am i going to recognize him when i see him but you were just like if john what about you. This is my alex haley. Moment daughters know we're meeting today. Awesome that's great. I was just excited to meet my son because growing up in boston. We don't really have a connection to really early anything now. The most important thing for african americans is to connect with an african. Why did you do the test. Iona came from a conversation that i had been having with my cousins and a couple of friends just trying to find a way to connect with more for african americans in it not be situation where it's wo- your haitian-american. You're jamaican american this american in for me. It was what type of american am i. Why do i have to identify as one type of american because i don't really know where where i'm from. <hes> you know if you ask me. I'm from boston then because i don't have i don't have another language. We have our own traditions that we kinda made for ourselves but i can't say all my family's. He's from puerto rico my family's from cuba. I can't say that and that's why it was so great. My cousin reached out so it's interesting here. We are with the innovation of all these d._n._a. Genetic testing companies as well as the coincidence of the four hundred anniversary of the arrival of the first enslaved africans in the americas so i'm wondering where do you see this kind of path of discovery taking you. Hopefully i'll be able to visit africa because i know you said your parents are still there that that was my ultimate. Goal is to find a way to get back to africa but when i first started i didn't know that i would have actual family there so now now it's time to start saving up the pennies because i'm i really want my son to know where he's from and not feeling like he doesn't have have a connection to to his ancestors or to his roots or anything because when you grow up and people are constantly asking you what are you. You know it kind of weighs on you. You've got <hes> -tarian your eight year old son on your lap terrier in. What would you like to be kind of aware of an understanding when you get older. I mean what do you wanna now. What do you want. What do you want to know about your ancestors seniors. I'm just freaking out freak out on. Tell me what you'd like him to know about about his ancestors. I mean you're kind of getting this fire hose of information suddenly this meeting with john after dna tests. What would you like him to know. Say ten years from now. I would like him to know that no matter what anybody tells him as a black me a night he comes from strength and that's one of the main things that i've learned talking to gene and i want my son to understand that everything that he has now. Somebody had to fight for that for him and we've had these conversations. We have them a lot especially. She now with him going into the third grade. I really want him to not have to guess in wonder what he comes from so when he gets to be in middle school or high school someone says you know well. What are you are we. Are you look like you're this or that. He can actually give them a good explanation and say you know i african americans. Don't look the same zhong you said that the most important thing is for african americans to meet an african why why because it's been four hundred years just being connected to that person means a lot that you share a common ancestor. You're who was taken to the america for one hundred years ago three hundred years ago maybe two hundred fifty years ago and you share a lot of pain painful history history. Yes i do human cargo. Were taken from africa to the americas and african riches are being taken kent from africa because of those corrupt leaders who who who can i think about the welfare of their people so they just participate in the exploitation of of african african resources and putting human beings in conditions of misery so now my little cousin my little. My little taryn has an uncle uncle and i'm linda linda from the congo. Oh audrey spencer your ion mom. What have you been thinking as you've heard this conversation between your daughter and <hes> janka penta just overwhelmed as maybe maybe an older african american. I feel good to know now that my grandson will be able to actually say a tribe that means me me too okay. You know i am connected to like an actual say no. I'm from munda trying that tribe where i have been told so many times you have no country and that would irradiate me to my core and now we're we're going to make a number one goal to go over in hug and thank our answers that are still in africa for giving us some pride where we can actually say who we are and what we are about. What do you do with this where did you where did you go with us ana. I just want to continue to build on it. Our history doesn't begin to in slavery. Our first conversations had nothing to do what slavery it had everything to do with your tribe is full of strength. Enriches and slavery was just a blip in the radar and i wish that we as african americans in scholars would teach more of the power of the power that that comes out of africa versus justice league treat because it bothers it bothers me when february comes around and my son is only learning about three african african americans and then right and in that's it and he doesn't know anything else about black history so it's up to me to teach him but now i can can teach him black history and i can also teach his black history and i teach him more then came over and we knew we had jim crow and you know now. It's this. It's like no like we had kings. We had queens we had riches. You know our land is still. It's still a beautiful place to be so this is just the beginning for me and jacob panda. Where does this path take you. What history has separated sciences reuniting through d._n._a. And i think the helping as the one again to save you from this place meeting face to face with my the n._f._l. Cousins is just the is just a blessing. I would say john panda ianna lakes -tarian lakes and audrey dispenser. Thank you very much sincerely for sharing. This moment with us really really appreciate it. Thank you three generations of boston. Residents i on a lakes and son met in our studio for the first time with their congolese cousin professors janka panda checkout video and some photos of the moment at the world dot o._r._g. The u._s. is looking outside of its borders for drugs prescription drugs. The trump white house recently said it would allow americans to import cheaper cheaper medicines especially from canada democratic presidential candidates have also been eager to jump in on this but in canada people are worried that this new demand might leave them with a drug shortage the rules alana gordon has a story quin nystroem lives in central minnesota a few months ago. She responded to a post on facebook doc and decided to try something she'd never done before join a caravan to canada so it literally was like two cars. There were six of us. You know what i mean. It was very casual. The reason for this five hour trip was to buy insulin from a pharmacy across the border in fort francis ontario nice from his type one diabetes. She's she depends on round the clock insolent survive but in the last few years the price even with health insurance has gone up a lot so she thought take you might not go north when you're sort of a middle to low income person. You have rent to pay what that means is. You're putting things on a credit adhikari guidance today. She says a vial of insulin that lasts her two weeks cost her three hundred fifty dollars in the u._s. It costs me thirty dollars dollars in canada the u._s. Government has historically discouraged people from importing drugs for some medications. It can even be illegal at least technically nystrom says she was nervous returning with a three months supply of insulin but she says u._s. Border agents didn't care since then. She's lead to more trips north with other diabetes patients on their most recent visit to a pharmacy in windsor ontario. A well-known politician joins them the same because of the type one because her fingers democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders plus a big trail of reporters cameras. Millions of people depot's doing exactly what we are doing here. Today they even going to the internet going to canada mexico going to europe exactly the same medicine at a fraction of the price sanders is very familiar with the visit canada drill. He started medical care events from his home. State vermont back in nineteen ninety nine nine sanders used the opportunity this time to stress that canada has controls on pharmaceuticals that drive down prices ones that also drive up literally. The clinton is trump's to canada to buy them but these latest trips have struck a nerve nice from has gotten slammed by canadians on social media for taking third medications. The biggest criticism is they believe that we are going to create a shortage. Shortages are already an issue even at the very pharmacy that nystroem and sanders anders visited the old walker pharmacy. Hello hi is this john hi good morning yesterday. Pharmacist john girgis was bringing people up at the register that day you know they were very <hes> like hoppy. I'm grateful was insulin an issue for you to provide to people that you would normally expect coming into your pharmacy. No we do have our own issues with george's but insulin so far has not been one of them. Gerguson other say insolence not actually under threat of running out. It's a very basic drug but he does worry worry because other medicines are getting scarce pressure medication then by betes medication does have gone missing in canada. Pharmacies get their drugs through central ordering system system but lately. Some drugs have become unavailable. Shortages aren't unique to canada but hospitals patients across the country are nervous that a growing appetite for their drugs could make things worse. Joel walker is with the canadian pharmacist association. One of our biggest concerns is with exacerbating drug shortages in canada and not being able to respond to the demands of both canadian patients as well as american patients total fifteen hospital patient and pharmacy groups chiefs have issued a letter urging the canadian government to protect their drug supply. Here's the reason for u._s. States have passed measures that would make it a lot easier to to import drugs wholesale from canada and to order them online and last week. The white house announced plans to make doing just that easier andrew hill. Hill is a pharmacology fellow at liverpool university in the u._k. He says any unexpected surge in demand can put a strain on manufacturers so you can get drunk suit which is sometimes because houses source. He doesn't order the right amount in the at once not more drug. The pharmaceutical industry is totally totally against price controls. They say it's a disincentive to developing new therapies and some companies have simply stopped making some inexpensive drugs that have been around for decades. It's but he'll is wary of the idea that lower drug prices could create shortages look the systems in the united kingdom and across europe with drug prices. Prices are four times lower than the united states but we still able to produce supply districts very reliably. Canada's population is about the size of california is it only makes up two percent of the global market so it's this potential mass exportation of drugs from canada that some health advocates really fear. It's not not the caravans of patients making the occasional trip across the border quin nystroem the minnesota with diabetes who leads some of these trips can attest on our second trip. We had a free fifty five passenger buzz going from minneapolis all the way to london ontario okay. We have fifteen people on that thus. They couldn't fill the seats. She says people aren't flooding to canada even with a free ride because for many can't afford the high cost of drugs in the u._s. They also oh can't afford taking off work to make the trips for the world. I'm alana gordon. A major music festival in lebanon has cancelled the concert by one of the country's best s. known rock bands church leaders accused mushroom leyla of blasphemy triggering an outcry on social media and death threats against the group the organizers there's other music festival said they were cancelling the band performances to prevent bloodshed but members of the band who's lead singer is openly gay believe they're the victims of a vicious this smear campaign. Here's the b._b._c.'s beirut correspondent martin patience doc lebanon's biggest roll band with fans across the world mushroom leila's lead singer a muslim an openly gay he sings about religion politics and sexuality all hugely sensitive topics in the middle east where here outside the gates of the american university of beirut glorious c