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2021 Thoughts: Creating Your Unlimited Success and Wealth

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09:09 min | 3 months ago

2021 Thoughts: Creating Your Unlimited Success and Wealth

"The light of your soul comes forward. It's actually as if you're telling your soul when you surrender. Surrender to you. I surrender to my life. I surrender to my essence so ways render will look like is allowing your soul to drive and lead your business allowing your soul to create your money even taking those pauses when you react when you want to respond in a way that is that knee jerk reaction that you've learned to do but instead dropping into your heart and dropping into surrender that activate you so the question is how can retract the wealth new. You deserve this. On a soul level intuitively and you want to create a massive impact in the world. How do you do this. And serve your clients to the highest level. How do you break through and overcome your current situation and start manifesting the wealth that you know you deserve hello. My name's korean stewart. I'm so wealth coach. Seven figure entrepreneur. Running my spiritually conscious business and i have dedicated my life to activating wealth and purpose for spiritually conscious entrepreneurs and on the activate your wealth show. How be your guide to show you exactly how to activate your well step into your purpose in a powerful way and make a profound difference in the world while doing it. Thanks for joining me. So twenty twenty one to be an athlete year when it comes to spiritual advanced been at a weakening into your sole purpose. It's also going to be an incredible year for wealth creation. If you know how to receive it how to activate it within yourself in twenty twenty one listen it is going to be essential that you let go of. Having the answer's twenty twenty was the year the soul which prepared you twenty. Twenty one is going to be the here of soul mastery. Mastering what we always talk about his spiritual entrepreneurs surrender surrendering to the mystery. But one of the things that i want you to reflect on. Is that surrender. Is not passive. Surrender in fact is an activation when you are truly surrendered and in twenty twenty one. You're gonna learn this no matter what when you're truly surrendered you become activated by your soul. The light of your soul comes forward. It's actually as if you're telling your soul when you surrender. Surrender to you. I surrender to my life. I surrendered to my essence. So ways surrender will look like is allowing your soul to drive and lead your business allowing your soul to create your money even taking those pauses when you went to react when you want to respond in a way that is that knee jerk reaction that you've learned to do but instead dropping into your heart and dropping into surrender allowing that to activate you so to set yourself up to win in twenty twenty one. It's going to be important to do these three things. The first is make sure you know you're y you know. Twenty twenty one is going to be intense more than intense than twenty twenty if you can believe it and what i mean by that. Everything is going to accelerate. So if you are not anchored into your y anchored into reason that you get up every day to follow your calling to be on that path. Then you're going to take it out so easily. I always talk about your rooted in so no one that is and when i share that with you win i mean is a personal y you know. I know that we're all about loving. I know that as a spiritual entrepreneur is a spiritual leader in transformer. You care about humanity care about the planet you care about our future. But that's not what i'm talking about. I'm talking out a personal y. You're doing it for example. I know for me next year. The most important thing is. I get to build our dream home. That's my number one thing so make sure you know what that is number to get deep into your calling us your tools of spiritual tools get deep into your heart and every single morning you wanna wake up. Ask yourself these three questions but is calling. What is the plan. And what is required. That will keep us centered in what really matters centered in that calling and get your intuition operating within you okay. Lastly third your job next year is to make money twenty. Twenty one is an acceleration as spiritually conscious entrepreneurs. We're leading the transfer of money to the light. It is actually your job as the ceo of an empire of light is spiritual empire to grow money bills money and multiply the money. And i just wanted to share this message with you and you know it comes on the eve of going into twenty twenty one in one of the things that i've been thinking a lot about how is the meaning of this last cycle that we've been through and we're entering into in two thousand twenty one and this decade that quite honestly is going to transform everything that we have known about ourselves our humanity our culture our everything raised entities. And you know. I know a lot is breaking down but the good news and the incredible thing that's happening is that so much more is being born and what is being born is actually your soul your soul coming into physical form into your physical body to enjoy the fruits of being physical last and when you really think about what it really boils down to is that you are a creator and you've come here to create an experience in which you have it all. I remember the first time that someone said that to me and it was such an amazing eye-opener. Because i was like i do i get to have it all but let me be the one. If this is the first time you've heard this you get have it all and so when you think about what you want to create in this new year. Think about what that is. What would your soul want for you. What is your soul life. Look like and know that in two thousand twenty one. Not only will you get to create that you're being called to create it now. I know a lot of you have a purpose and you want to transform that into wealth into business into a huge empire even and so if that's you i want you to realize that this is your year. This is your hair to burst through all limitations and take the planet by storm. Because we need you. We need more spiritually conscious entrepreneurs to bring their light and anchor their light into the planet. Listen spiritual entrepreneurs twenty. Twenty one is going to be a year. Where if you set the intention if you've cut your heart and your mind aligned to well to abundance to your greater vision that you've always been wanting things are going to offer you. Twenty twenty one is all acceleration in europe. I vibration which is about to freedom liberation movement and things taking off so you wanna be really aware of what your intention offer twenty twenty one way you can predict is that things will vote fast. Noni will be made quickly. But lenny walls have you lost quickly if you are holding beliefs around scarcity and limitations. Take out to what you're believing in take know that you are anchored in a vision. That is about service about making a difference for the world for others and that will line up with the energy of freedom and liberation for humanity and or your own being for you to live streamed up as possible in twenty twenty one. So take that in and i can't wait to hear how you are going to make money in how i can help you into twenty one. Let me know all right you guys. I'll see you on the next. Hey thank you again for spending your valuable time with me today. The next best step for you to take after listening to this episode is to get around other like minded individuals in a close knit community joining. I five day challenge activate your wealth. You'll find it by heading over to my facebook group. Just go onto facebook and search for the new code under grew once you join the group say hello and search inside the group for the activate your wealth i challenge. I'll see you on the next episode of the activate your wealth show.

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MTV The Challenge: Double Agents Season 36 Ep. 2

Spill it, Sister! Reality TV recaps with Ally

1:01:19 hr | 4 months ago

MTV The Challenge: Double Agents Season 36 Ep. 2

"Hey i'm leah. And i'm ali and we're sisters who watched trash tv together and this is spilling sister. Hello everyone welcome back to spill it. Sister podcast you are here. With leah and allie. Take a lick of mustard really quickly before we get started. I don't wanna get any cramps. We would never want any muscle cramps here on spilt sister podcasts. It can get very strenuous sometimes especially when we started talking about and his hot side. You just don't know what's going to happen. I don't know maybe just not my type. I'm not saying he doesn't have a good bod. But i don't understand the hype around him. There's hotter guys that have graced. Rtd screens on the challenge. I think fussy is hotter than non or nam poverty pronounce properly. I don't know really. I get it. I mean he's really. He's a beautiful so jay. Jay said he's a specimen he's like a beautiful specimen like he to me he's like just got all the like the chisel jaw the white teeth like the like skin. Color is even like a nice golden. Like he's just he's just very perfect looking. I don't know how to explain it. Yeah i mean it's just he's not for me. I think it's because there's no facial hair. That's why not quite gray. You could be better. You could be better. i get it. I mean he's kind of pretty boy you know like he's he's very you know he's it's is shaven thing right. Yeah i wouldn't like not look at him. That's not what i'm saying. I just mean like he's not my favorite that's fair to each their own. Yes so yeah. This was a good episode. Lots of i said to you earlier. Like politicking i felt my ass. Yes it was almost hard to keep track like even the game. The challenge itself was very political in so it was like in. There's still twenty nine people and so. Oh my gosh. there's so much going on. i can't keep track of who's working with who it's a lot. It is an man. I guess the producers were like you know what screw y'all y'all been talking this shit about us for the last three or four seasons your bore you say oh. They're not doing enough so we're going to give it all to you because this episode for this to be episode two and then exposing everything that they're exposing or they're forcing the players to expose. It's early for that. Yeah it is. But i also feel like these rookies have. They just have known as season. they do yes. I will not get any scared rookies. They came in ready to fight some of them. I'm asking myself. Have you ever watched a challenge before. What did you think this is going to be. Yeah yeah But she is for. I feel like he's gonna last for comedic relief because he is a very very funny and we saw him on ex on the beach or peden or what it was and you know larry. I didn't think i was going to like him. And then we both ended up loving him. Yeah he's a likable guy. He's he's sweet okay. Let's just get into the episode that way we can just like started off so we're back In the crater. Yes that's what it's called right and You know well. Natalie leave her partner wes. That's what we're all waiting on. Bated breath of course. She's not nobody was going to and see. Tj let us know that c. t. is a rogue agent now is partner less basically. The next elimination is going to determine his partner so he could either just be by default matched with whoever the loser left behind right or you know depending on who picks who end up with someone else so. This is an interesting conundrum to be in. It is and you see all of the challenges looking at each other like what why not leaving. What do you mean like. We have to go back into the house with him. What we expected because on seasons that have had hairs they typically both leave or they're like it will happen in two rounds and so it'll be guy face off and then girl versus girl face off and you kind of get a better chance to see who's going to help you out here at the end of one whole team leaves. I love it. I love it there. So much flipping and switching. Go on like you really can't get too attached to these couples and i feel like c. T. really i don't know maybe he did it behind the scenes. They shouldn't show it. It's like the moment you give back into that house. You better start like campaigning to all the strong women be like you want me as your partner and this is why emphasis on the canham. Heart cam painting as cam with a k. Rianne to cam. It was like Jake hey i don't know why not you. It was just a moment of you know the cold air hitting me froze my brain. Why have you not. She's like you would not have been down there. How'd you said yes to being my partner. She's right and it was funny. Because at first i thought he was like fake sucking up like i didn't do i li but then i was like. Oh no he really is sucking up like he really realizes that he's in deep doo doo. Yeah yikes you probably should not have done that. This is gonna be a dirty game. This really opens it up to be really really dirty and i like that. I love it too. So then we see little joseph doing his workout on. Let's back up really quickly because of the something new was me like the way it happened for me. We see everybody working out in every really really hard. And i was thinking to myself in that moment. Oh my god look. There's no slackers this season you know. Normally we'll see like ashley or naughty laying on the couch hungover or though insinuate that they've smoked a pack of cigarettes already and they don't wanna work out but i was thinking this season. We're not gonna have that. Even these rookies are super bit. Shit this is going to be scary. And then we cut to joseph laying on the floor. Leroy's like which which do and man tapping in why. Okay first of all. Why were you inside in the living room in front of everyone while they're trying to eat their lunch or whatever and you thought that that was a good spot to do your workout like regardless of whatever your workout is why did you not go out to the workout area. Or if you're going to do this weird ass workout where you're barely moving your body and then saying that you did a thousand crunches. I just can't like what is he doing. I don't know. I definitely see this type of exercise done before. I'm not saying it's foreign to me. I just don't know what he thinks. How is that going to elevate your game in the challenge. This is the moment like he's never watched the show before has he. Because that is not going to get you anything new for you. I also don't think he was really getting a workout. He wasn't moving enough. He was moving a centimeter punches. Yes it's a smaller movement than a sit up but you still have to get your shoulder. Blades off the ground. Like he wasn't doing anything and he was doing those he'll taps you know where he was going back and forth like his oblique. But still it you very long arms so you weren't really moving that much. What was that really exercising going fast thousand. It's great. I'm so good okay. You are not ready or come coming to you and let me tell you that this recipe right here is what's good is what happens to polly every final. Like what like. Oh you're going to do all the stuff you're going to think like doing thousand crunches and then you get to a final in your as burns out and you are laying there dead in the forest. Yeah that's true that in the forest who could forget all but still whatever their retreat involved. Yeah that was so funny all the girl not all the girls but nicole noni and can get together and just talk about their partners and nani is not very happy with her selection of kyle because she just feels like he's not really a competitor. He's just more about the social game. You shouldn't take this seriously enough every season. We have this conversation about kyle. What have you figured it out yet. This kyle's game. He puts them right front. He puts on a front that he doesn't give a shit that he is being very playful around the house that he just wants to drink and be hung over with everybody. And you know give everybody shit. But then when y'all test him he always shows up all as he always shows up. Let's not forget that the very first time he was ever on the challenge he made it to a final in. Was he in the final last season. Am i making that up in trying to picture with the on that mountain no corey. Was there no bananas. no he wasn't okay so teams so like why. Can i think like every other challenge but that final for last season is blocked. I can literally only remember corey and bananas because bananas and jenny slept in a bed together and be. I don't know why. I remember corey. Haim corey was there who had to stand outside. See the vesey. Yeah wasn't it fussy. And kyle know who is talking to like annoying him like really wanted to just like have a commerce koschnick kyle. Yes yes yes you're right. Yeah okay. you're right. So i just don't understand like he literally just came off of being in the final lags in why it yeah. He always is underestimated. So but here's the thing that a nissan needs to learn. That is so powerful. I've been under s an estimated. My whole life professionally. I've had come up a lot and you can really use that to your advantage and like throw people off when you actually are a bad ass. I mean it's like all good and well to be like pissy about it does suck to be underestimated but you just use it to your advantage and then you have the upper hand at the end so it's fine and that's what kyle does he does it very very well and every season they fall for it. Something nutty keep your mouth shut. Stay with kyle. Yeah with him. It's gonna work out for you because she has a good quote unquote social game in that. She is such a vet as like so. She has her very strong connections but he has a wider net. He has cast a wider social net. Then she has so. I feel like that would actually have worked out really well for her. It would have an. She's going to need that wide net. That good game win. We know it's kind of an give us give our girl few more episodes and she's gonna get a little too drunk at cub club igloo. She's going to have her cup of noodles. She's going to want to throw it on. Somebody orga see hurricane naughty. And she's got any kyle to clean it up for. Yeah one hundred percent. But i guess not then we see. This is where we get the phnom workout scene. And everyone's just like googling over him including the guys like wes is like holy shit he so high. Jay call him specimen. Like i mentioned and low is like fully like this. Who i'm gonna marry like this is my soulmate. Where's her bible. I oh my god. And i thought i was like here comes. Here comes the virgin talk. I know it's going to come so i'm thinking wanted to things era. The producers hate that shit too so they edited it all out Or she's not a virgin anymore. I googled it. Because i too expected her to say that comes. Then when there was no virgin bomb dropped. I was like oh let me see in. So it's very awkward to google is lolo jones. Still a burgeon. Okay you know that. She's thirty eight years old. No i figured she was like thirty one no like she looks so good his name. I'm not gonna say she looks so good for a hate when people say that ship like she just. It doesn't matter what age she is. She looks amazing. But i had no idea that she was thirty eight. That's wha- being olympic olympic athlete will do to you. I guess yeah and she has her hair. I think she's gorgeous skin. She's very very pretty woman. You love lolo joe. That's taking it all too far. It's just like the way her. It's her personality yet. triggers me. Yeah though anyways it yes. She is still a virgin. It says she did an and said that she feels like she made a mistake by telling everybody she was a virgin because it has ruined a lot of dates for her. Which i can imagine because you're to get one or two things right. You're going to get the guy who sees that as a challenge and tries to take it for what may be the first guy or two you get the guy that's like no. I need somebody with more experience right. You don't want either of those guys. Denier her so yes she was definitely and i thought so because she had tweeted about being a virgin in the challenge house before all of this air. That's why i was pre irritated with her. So yeah it's confirmed she's still a virgin. Think we're going to get any like breaking challenge. News that she lost it in the house which that would be a way to go out. Let me tell you yet. I mean at least maybe it could be with them. When super hot like nam you know that would suck otago. Thirty eight women long. I mean not thirty eight years but to be aversion this lonely go your whole adult life and yet been on reality. Tv you know 'cause if you've held strong for so long it's like just hold onto your moral compass. That's what you wanna do. Wait for the right guy. Yeah definitely well. The challenge is activated and it is time. The green lights are flashing. They head to what looks like the coldest water i've ever seen in my life. No with literal like is birds florida. Yes i was like. How are they gonna swim in this. How right what. What type of body suit are you wearing. Is that heated. Listen guys it is fifty degrees where we are at right now in texas and i have been bitching all week long about it because we've had rain thrown in there and i'm like fuck this. We live in texas for a reason. And it just doesn't get warmer. So i i would have been like sorry. Tj on a quitter this one hundred percent. This is where. I would die like goodbye world so the game is called ice spy and you and your partner have to jump into this freezing cold water and swim all the way to a boat get an ice cube and swim back with it and then you have to after you're already freezing to death. You have to chop this. Ice cube and get your. They were calling them. Kills yelich kill pill red pill and you basically vote for who you wanna kick out of the competition. And everyone gets three chances. Yes so very very political. This is it is so early for this type of challenging. I honestly think at some point. It may be at episode five or six. Were going to get another big twist. Yeah i mean maybe like. Now you're playing individually or yeah there's definitely going to be like we've said a few cleaning house moments where a lot of people go home. Yeah and we learned that. Ct cannot play because he doesn't have a partner. So you just it's this one out the. Oh darn i just. Yeah i was like you should at least make it to where he like he can still lose like people can still vote him out so what. I thought that the twist was gonna be when tj said to sit out see. I thought that he was going to run interference. So for instance. If anybody put a red pill in like an isa emphases tube he could go pull it out and put it somewhere else wherever he wanted. Oh that'd be fun you know. So then he's kinda like working against all of them yet happen he just got to collect information which this was a very interesting to watch and be an outsider on. Yes i can only imagine like actually being able to see everything happening at once because obviously we just got like an edited version. Which made it very hard to keep track of it. I'm swimming in the water and you come back and you have to like. How are you supposed to really know who gave you those pills. I don't know you really don't know what i'm saying. So this is a good one to watch because now see t. Can be like well. Hey i saw who put all of those and yours. That's true let's plan. He can use that information da so everyone jumps into the water and scuba. Nellie really excited about this. Because apparently he's been practicing his swimming which has never been a strong suit for him now. No product himself. But this wasn't really the challenge to be able to show off your swimming skills. No it really wasn't it wasn't about the distance it was about. Can you survive and not freeze to death. And also nicole was very concerned of how she was going to get the ice block back because apparently is just going to seek right so the bottom of the lake or whatever they were in like. Have you ever drink. I drink is water like why. How do you there. i'm just joking. i'm was not no you're not. This is the type of shit. nicole says. No is not intelligent when it comes to things like this if you run out what season is but her corey ran a final together and she had a read a word problem and it was easy and she took for twenty thirty minutes to figure out how many there were triangles board. This is just like nicole type. Shit that she says yeah. It's not her strong suit. So i was interested in like who's getting to the boat. I ask west fussy jay and actually nici was like one of the first ones on the boat. Youthful complaining the most. I'm like he must be from the south. Because that's how i would be to. He actually did a really good job. Poor gabby is just really struggling. But her partner. Leo is there to support her. Did he stay with her or was he equally struggling and just trying to make it look like he was being supportive. So that's what i kind of wondered. 'cause i'm like i guess both of you had to like touch the boat in order to get an ice cube or something because i'm like why would he have just stayed back. You know right. That was what i was thinking too. Why would you just go and get the ice cube and then let her do her own thing and you just keep going. Yeah gabby like you just. You didn't watch any season of the challenge. There's always swimming always an answer me reading it for both extremes like extreme hot and extreme cold it could be the desert it could be a jungle. It could be you know the tundra. You just don't know what you're going to get. Yeah people probably thought well. Last year it was so cold. there's no way back. Cold seasons joke was on yaw. This is twenty twenty bitches. Y'all gonna bring. Yes so i'm to think about like how all this went down. It was just so much to keep track of. It was natalie and west. Where the first outright. No i thought it was theresa in jay okay. So they may end. Okay let me backup. It could have been natalie west the first out like the. I got a block on their station. But theresa in j were the first ones you break out the kill pill okay. I was talking in terms of like who was eliminated. So yes that was natalie and west that was bam bam bam. everybody knew. we're going right for them. They're like we got back up on shore and there was a line to put their tube in our thing and then stupid leroy like goes and puts his in a hole. That already has one in it. And it's like what are you doing so west just takes it and throws it in. The water was so pissed off this episode. And he's pissed off on social media like he's just not very happy right now apparently is spilling all the on his patriots. And if anybody would like to spend thirty dollars a month to read the receipts we only have like no no thank you. Yes oh we see msci going after kyle and noni and then kyle nanako after michi and Whoever his partner is who's partner there's so many people We see amber in nelson taken out next. And then noni and kyle or taken now and big t is like really. She's good on the on the social side of things. She's really good friends making people like her and so she's really like trying to get her partner to buy into this. Yeah and he's just not about that life like he just wants to compete and she's like no we have to talk to people about like what is the plan. Who are we going after next. Because if we're just out here doing our own thing like that's not strategic and he's just not now he's not doing it he didn't want to deal in at without at all and it gets to a point where everybody is standing around kind of deciding will wear. Do we put our pills now. How are we going to spread this out and a niece investi have zero. So ills weird. I'm like i guess people just don't almost don't want the power this early so they kind of are like just give it to them again. It's very strange. They think fassi at an isa will do the dirty work because they've already started this. This rift with wes Oh let's just make sure west is only pissed off at fussy and anita because we may need wes at some point he. Yeah i guess so. They're just kinda like let them get their hands dirty and we'll just sit back and we'll see how this plays out and see watching all of it thinking everybody's playing scared game. I think it's strategic. I won't call it scared just yet. There was a very scared move. That was played later on episode. That talk about. I think it's kind of smart though. Because i would not. What west pissed off at me. Not in that house. hell no. yeah. I mean at the end of the day. He's a winner and he's a great competitor. So why a social game is so good and you don't know really booth on his side you don't know who he talked to in the offseason. You don't know how he p- regained and west is just a master manipulator one thing and then there's a whole different plan going on behind your back and then it blows up you're screwed. Yeah so no not. I would not mess with him. And that's what ends up happening A nissan fussy win again. And i love like fess us like like now. We're going to be targets as now we keep winning. And tj's like hype 'em up and he's like oh man like i better just right. Y'all the check now. He won twice at a emphases emphases. He's like shut the fuck up. Yes just like how big can i make this target. Because i see what's going on are playing a game. No let's get bessie on an isa out now. Let me see how how much can stir the pot for you guys. Yeah it was great. I was like oh my god. That's he wants to kill you right now. post challenge. We have all the house kind of like figuring out. What are we going to do. And it's kind of just easy to again. Say like we'll go after west like he's already pissed. Let's just keep that ball rolling and That's kind of what spurs the rest of the drama is west is going to go in. But how are we going to do this. And we start to see this joseph. Come up where it's like you know. He's an easy target. He's a rookie. He hasn't proven himself. But fethi wants the house to vote in west versus him having to get the blood on his hands again. Yeah which okay. I can see. That's smart but you've already said his name and west at this point knows it. It's easier to say my name again. So then he's not burning other bridges and with all of this in the mix. Joseph has said. I think i want to go in like i think i'm gonna nominate myself. I feel like joseph. Was this like listen. I came from america's got talent. This should is not for me. I don't know how i ended up here and it's time for me to go home. Nelson's facial expressions when joseph is telling him this is like but why why would you do that. Yeah i don't think he wants to be here. That was my impression of joseph this entire episode. My impression was he thought it wasn't that hard of it's going be fine. I'm sitting. we'll get to read gold skull and kill it okay. Well if you're hungry you go eat buffet waiting for you. We're not doing it yet. We've been around the block a few times. Yeah it was very. It was all very stupid and poor west. Like it's coming to all the buff dudes like camman bros cdt. Fethi nelson corey. Like let me be your janitor. Whatever job i give you the ceo or the janitor. You want me to jehovah scheming. I can do that more. I can be. The janitor is all of a sudden doesn't seem so stupid anymore. He's looking at west as if he was. Do you think it was born yesterday. No i'm not gonna let you take over my plan like this is my alliance. You don't get a say this season I've already seen how you work. I've watched it all go down. It ain't happening absolutely anoterh. Your resume has denied. Go on about your ways. That job has been filled so then we get the night in club igloo. I mean just such a fabulous place to be fethi is loving the single life. I'm sure haley was watching that scene just like barf ing in her mouth. Can you imagine like seeing an ex just like strip in for all these girls now answering around him like. Wouldn't you just hate to see that even if you ended on good terms it's still just like you. Yes she probably hate to see that. That's probably why she unfollowed. Tory yeah law. I can't wait for them to come out as the couple. I don't think they will. You don't think it's going to get that far now we'll see. I don't know it's cuffing season. That is true and they were in hawaii together. And we're in a pandemic so i don't know things are weird right now. People are very prone to relationships right now. Tori needs to stay out of relationships. That's what tori needs to tori. Needs to be in a relationship with herself. She does. I just want the best for her So they get to the night. How and we see noni talking see. She's being smart. She knows that she doesn't want to be with kyle. So she's like putting feelers out there and she just kinda gauging like bessie if you wanted to. If i wanted you to be my partner like would you want that. And he says yeah he's down. He's down fernandez's partner does he thinks anybody's better than an isa. That's what vesey thoughts are. Yeah which is so not true. I i didn't love this pairing so i didn't want to happen. I don't want noni with vesey in this environment. Like i think that they would hook up and they'd probably both have a great time with him in the house. You do you which we probably won't see. Because i think she was already in relationship at this point during filming because she has a new. Who's really really cute by the way different from the that she was with coming into the house. No no no same same okay. She's like while. Yeah that's what i'm saying like she had she was going into the house. She's interrelationship. She has said anything yet on camera. So that makes me think that it is probably pretty serious. We probably won't get wild crazy. Noni you know making out with any new newbies trying to hook up with casey. Yeah may not get that this season dang it i just. I don't know why that partner vibe does not pass the check for me. They don't have chemistry like that. They don't have partner chemistry no. I liked her. Better with kyle than i would with esi i do to i. One hundred percent agree. It's almost like they have similar vibes like they both take themselves very seriously and they both need someone who's going to lighten things up a little bit. I agree i didn't. I did not think about that until you just said it. But that connects a lot of dots. I think that's what it is again. More is logan it. Make a move on. This is like i guess. There wasn't a lot of love connections happening at this point. Because we keep going back to this and it's very like repetitive But she says she's making moves in. He's just not getting it. I just think he's keeping his options open. Yea he should like he's just not that into you girl sorry and he probably knows well. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't know but i would think everybody in the house knows she's a virgin. So what's gonna happen like you're just gonna have a hookup session even though we did get like some night cameras of the two of them. Did you catch that. Very ole no idea. He was like standing up. He was on a top bunk and she was standing up and it looked as if maybe they like. Shane exchanged a kiss or so So i don't know well. I was confused because when they get back to the house she says. Can i have a european kiss which to me is like a kiss on the cheek right. I don't know why that's what my mind went to. You mean that's what it looked like happened. So i can see how that i just saw them hug. Basically so i. And then nam says an interview that he's honored to have lolo kiss him. I wish very confused of like what even happened. Did y'all kiss or not. I didn't see a kiss. I didn't see a kiss when they hugged with. There was a kiss on the night cameras. Okay so that's that's what it was. Oh man they really just that must have been a quick flash. She has a great Self restraint that's all. I have to say yeah. She does a drink. I wonder if she drinks. I feel like at one time. She did not drink a long long time ago. It looked like she was drinking club. I always want to say club penguin. We can call it that. That's fine like i don't know the vibe of it just reminds me of club. Penguin took a name here. I like like club igloo. To either one works so then we have devon devin just like cracks me up when he's not being like a total asshole he can be really funny he can he. He's like kyle. I thought he was really going to have a serious conversation. He's like i have a problem. I can't understand nicole. And i thought he was kind of like. Oh like i. just don't get her like we're still connecting. But he's like literally. I don't understand the words that are coming out of her mouth. She has such a thick accent and especially when she's drinking. I mean i don't know what the hell she's saying. Either if you're not from the northeast in to those accents. I'm sure it's like us like us to. We are have our southern accents. And when you drink it gets worse than all the idioms and things like that but it's just it was just so funny and she's from staten island and i think just from hearing people from staten island speak. They have a little bit of a thicker accident. I mean it's so different than like for louisiana people in the south like they have very very thick accents. And you almost don't know what they're saying at times when they start speaking very fast that it's kind of like what staten island is to me. Yeah i love that devon. I would say he's pretty smart. He's an intelligent guy. He thinks he's ways smarter than what he actually is gonna say. He thinks he's very smart that we know he at least has that going so i love that. He's partnered with nicole who is not super intelligent. This going i. I don't want him to change partners. Because i want to be seen devon break having. Yeah chit nicole. I want to see that volcano explode. That will let me much joy. And i also wanna see nicole just like kicking his ass strength wise to like. I wanna see both of those things. This is a fabulous pairing because if devon goes off on her and tries to tell her oh like. I think you're stupid or he talked to her in any sort of way. Nicole will result to violence. Should be like all right. Fine push competition or she'll just physically beat his ass. One of the two will happen and i to see it. Yeah for sure. And kyle kinda says that he wants is it. Kyle wants to work with. Lolo is one of them. Says they wanna work with lower like they wanna steal lolo. Because they're worried about nomin lolo be having a connection. Yes they were both saying that. The devon devon kyle both on that same page and kyle just has this great plan where he was going to lie to fethi. Because nobody's ever gonna find out who he's voting for so. The voting plan voting strategy. This year was made for kyle. Teaching new kyle needs to vote in secret. Not j. new kyle is a liar and this is a great way to expose that. Yeah great way to screw them over. I just i loved that. That was though so great. And this is where we really see the big t and joseph drama start to unfold. Or she's really up. Jacob james whatever his name is. She doesn't even know his name like she tries. I don't really know what i think. She was just trying to garner some trust in this conversation by telling him that west was talking shit about him or something but he just ends up getting pissed at her and they just end up like in a fight in front of everyone in front. Everybody not let's have this conversation off to the side as partners we can have a little bit of secrecy. Yeah our relationship. Oh no we're going to have this conversation in the of everybody. And why would you say that to west. Because now west had dumb ass and joseph tries to get big t to be blurred out. Hey i have loyalty to other people. And what's big t. Does that justice. Like this is what i'm talking about. See usually to me. Like why can she not have other friends like. Why are you so jealous. He doesn't understand the game. Yeah you are not going to be able to rely on your partner solely in this game. That's not how it works. You have to have other people to have your back and you as a rookie to win all of these people over. Because you're stirring the pot with west which was not smart. You just piss the snake off. He added he. This is just like rookie season out. Your that's what this episode should have been called so bad. It was painful to watch. it was not good. So we get to the deliberation and joseph just jumps right in. And he's like i wanna go in. It's me i'm ready to go. And i wanna face off against west west is going into and i want to send him home to count his dollars. And less is like your. I am rich and also it's like first of all. Don't give west any sort of crumbs of anything that he can turn into a way to like brag on himself because he will do it said online he said i our twitter. He said look i. I didn't go into that conversation talking about my wealth the previous how to cut it down. Because joseph wouldn't shut up he just kept going and going and going and so finally. I had to give and be like okay. Yeah i'm rich. What else you got you just went. Shut up about it. Yeah and. I didn't even take a mean. Cool like brag about the fact that you're rich if someone's going to bring up how much money you have you. Can you have every right to be like an. Y'all have money like if you earn your money you've worked you've won challenges. He goes home and continues to do his little cameos patriot. Whatever to like make money whatever. I'm not mad about it. no i'm not either. But he got a lotta shit. Because everybody was re tweeting de winter al-said ballers don't have to talk about how much they make. Whatever everything's getting westche- he's like book. I didn't have a choice. I mean it's okay to it's okay to say i'm rich. It's not like he said it's only like swaggie. See that's the that is the i don't actually have money. Anton gonna pretend. I have money and post every single new piece of jewelry. I get every single car that i get every you know what i mean. That is where. I get skeptical of like. Do you really have as much money as you act like you do. Their recent post bailey. Swaggie just doing quick sidebar. Yeah i'm gonna say it has yet. But i'm going to say it and you can. You can account for me here. I'm normally not wrong. Whatever i call these types of things. Yeah you're not. I feel like a break up coming. Who posted cheated or heated. She been posting a lot in. Everything is about how perfect he is. How they surprise each other how much they love each other eight alight. And so my spidey senses tingling. I think that there's a break-up among us in the next six months while and that would be a whole divorce to that would be a break-up 'cause married lest we knocker yet yeah surprise wedding singer wedding whatever you'd like to call it. Yeah yeah Interesting we shall see well. I'm calling it six months from now. Think eggs done though. Okay we'll check in and six months. So yeah i mean basically joseph just gets his ass shutdown i by west And he was just cut them off and he's like i'm talking now and then natalie jumps in and she can hold her own to. She's a bad ass. I was not expecting to like her. I didn't think i was not going to like her. But i don't know she just seems like a rookie of will we see her again. I'm not going to get attached. This log came with girl. I am loving it. You tell him. She's very well-spoken and very calculated and what she's saying she it's like she doesn't even really need to be under west wing and i kind of like that about her that she's really feel like she's letting west think that like. Oh we'll do whatever you say like. I'm just as poor little innocent girl who west is just taken under her wing but really. She's not like she can hold her own. A one hundred percent yet. This is going to be a very dangerous. Do if they stay together. Yeah they really are so then we get to voting and there was a surprising i mean we have most people either voting for west or Joseph it was interesting. That jay voted for leo. And gabby it's like okay. Why heasley. I don't know i don't wanna make anybody mad. So a burn vote for typical j just trying to keep the peace and i like him terese. I've said i said this last episode. I think they're going to be a good duo together. They did really well on the daily challenge and so the fact that they're not showing a lot of them makes me think that hopefully once they knock the more people off we will get strong. Theresa nj vibes. Yeah you always have to watch for the people. They're not showing the same way on the bachelorette whoever they're not showing the beginning like dots. Who's gonna win So then we get to the chamber of secrets and we have an isa infacy going back in. And i'm very proud of them for keeping their secret from last week that they actually got to see the votes because they're not gives them more power going into this week where again. Nobody knows that they're going to actually get to see who has voted the way that they wanted them to vote and so the biggest takeaway here was. Kyle lied to our faces. He said he was gonna vote in west and he didn't and so. This is the perfect opportunity to throw us under the bus. Grow kyle under the bus. It is and this is where vesey says. I'm not doing their dirty work for them. It's not gonna happen again. Okay if that's your starting to think here you're being strategic. I like it keep ago. It you gotta keep on this path. This is how you win. it's also i mean it. There's two sides to part of me too was like you already pissed off west or now you're gonna piss off kyle to west. I think can. We'll be more forgiving. Because west came to him and said hey. I just want a job. Yes oh after this he can say. Hey look i did you a solid. Let me tell you who voted for you and let's come up with something here. That's very true. And i will say fussy i think is really bringing in his big brother skills this season because i meant to mention this whenever he was talking to ninety one of the number one rules of big brother is if someone comes to you wanting to be an alliance with you you always say yes. It does not matter if that person is your arch enemy. If you hate that person you always say yes if they wanna work with you and this was another very big brother type of strategic move to it was because that's not how it is on the challenge alliances if somebody now you and says hey i wanna work with you. They'll tell you to fuck off right to your face. Yeah that's what he did and look where it landed him that it happens another alliance look. There's a big alliance but they don't hide it. It's more like look at us. You can't get in your on the outside. You have to go sit at the table. you're you're right. Big brother does not play that way. We saw a lot of that. On the all-star season that was the first one i had watched And it's genius like da. Why more people do this. Why not lie like do not everybody's lying that's the game. Just pretend that you're working with everyone. The worst that can happen you get called out for working with too many people. Will i guarantee you're not the only one doing that. So west will do that. Kyle will do that but they just don't spin it the same way that the big brother players do That's true so they get to the crater. And which is the elimination location. If you've forgotton. I just think it's a weird name like i got the purgatory of last year. That those strong name. The crater is strange to me. I don't know it's very space themed and because we're doing an agent theme i. I don't know. I would have expected a different name as well but it works. So what have we not used crater cool. That's that's the turn this year. Yeah like dinosaurs like that. Like i don't understand how this fits with the theme. So they reveal that big t and joseph were the ones who got voted in. They are now yes like we knew. That's what was going to happen. And i was thinking. Okay here we are. This is the number two out of ten gold skulls. And if i were fasi. And i knew i was going up against lolo. Joseph in his many thousand crunches. This is your opportunity and you see that it's basically just dir in a ring on the ground you don't understand like you instantly know what it is. I knew what it was i do. Yeah i didn't know the whole concept. But the general concept you get. I mean. this is a elimination that they do almost every season. it's very similar to like pulp wrestle. Were the one where you have to like russell. The ball away at jan. Or what are the same thing. And it's literally meant for big bulky buff dude like fethi to beat small dudes like joseph so. It was very suit of him to not want to go in the minute. I saw that hoop on the ground. I was like bessie. You gotta go get this for you to do. Sent him home. No we're gonna pass t.j. Whoa what this is horrible scared. That was scared ass move. Yes do after this. I think that's the only ones that if it's a hall i once the guts and glory elimination. He's a. he's a short term thinker. He's not a long term thinker. I'm gonna need him to work on that. It was so stupid so stupid. He would have won so easy. Hands down going there and get your gold school. And i think he wanted his cute little plan of surprising. Kyle because everyone thought that west was gonna go in and throwing kyle off because he probably wasn't ready to go compete and he just wanted to be able to have that bragging rights of like. Yeah i did this big move but again that's not thinking long term you to get to the final and you need a gold skull to get to the final so just go yeah. Tj like you realize there's only ten one is taken off another one's going to be gone tonight really wanna waste your time when festivals like this looks janke white house chain key like it. Looks like a normal challenge. I don't understand like a physical elimination. Does your ass wanna puzzle. No no we want to see that you don't want that so this is ring of spies and again. It's very much like a poll. Wrestle you just have to wrestle this ring away from the other person and then get the ring onto one of your polls. The best two out of three wins so from the beginning. We kind of figured that kyle would have a little bit of an upper hand. But i will say that joseph with his mustard licking self was able to get a couple of good moves in there where he tackled him to the ground and you know he fought for it. He fought hard. So you gotta give that to him. Did a flip over moon for flipped kyle over and that scared me for a minute. Thought maybe joseph was gonna take the lead. Kyle never actually got the ring away from joseph. He's hooked it onto the poll with joseph still attached. Yeah i thought that was. I mean you know respectable. He saw he did But ultimately kyle wins. He wins twice in a row and then he throws up everywhere and this was like the ptsd from them showing that and then they're like he's throwing up blood and i just thought it was so great. That nones like no guys. dinner i like her. Some alcohol is mixed in there. He's hung over. I was like how are these people doing this hung over. I can't even get out of bed when i'm hung over. I've just laid off now. I just have no tolerance anymore. I can't even really drink like maybe of wine maybe to sell tres pasa undone for there's no way or get my ass to compete in the cold i do not. I mean they're young. They're most of the own or not. How old is kyle. Kyle's in his thirties. To whole lord. Understand what these people are doing. Maybe marinate okay. Maybe that's what it is. It's a hell of a drug. Oh my gosh. So then we get to the business end of things where just goes home. Kyle gets his gold skull with big t with no partner and we are left with kyle being able to choose a new partner and he can choose from everyone because he won. He can any girl. He wants to be his new partner. He starts talking about how. There's a big alliance in the house the everyone's working together and so because of that he wants to shake things up and he just matches cam from josh. Josh is faith in dirt jaw dropped. I thought he was going to cry. Others were there was like he looks heartbroken. True i are. It was a smart move for kyle to do that. Take the queen you're the head of this alliance. Your you want to master manipulate cool. You're gonna come with me now. Sorry noni y- the shit that he said to bessie was well deserved. I thought he deserved everything that kyle said to him he did. It was so stupid like fancy could have been the one down there. He could have chosen a new partner. He would have won that that was just such a week. Move for him to not go down there. So it is what it josh super piss. He betrayed his trust and then he is happy because then he gets to go be with naughty which love love that love their friendship. I wish they would have dayton it at some point. We've talked about that but you know what a high now it. That's what she needs but never what she would do for herself. And which leaves by default c. T. and big t the tease. Yeah this is. I like all of this. I i like all these new pairings i. I'm a fan big t and c t. I think are going to be good together. We're going to get how larry on out of those two. It's going to be great. I love it. So there's only eight schools left we have natalie and kyle with skulls which means if you're a girl there's only four skulls left if you're a guy there's only four schools like that's how you have to think about it. Yeah i can't even think about it in terms of like there's eight skulls left because really you only have four more chances to get to the final so i don't understand why these people aren't in more of a rush. We don't necessarily know that it'll be even like that because at some point and could go to individuals and then who knows how the final end up but that is a good way to think about it. Yeah that's true on the preview. For next week i didn't see it my. Dvr cut also let me know. Okay what was it. Josh gets turned today. Josh arms open big. You'd see the full wingspan. He's screaming getting ready to fight. You know yeah but then he actually anyone no because this motherfuckers yelled at. Ct really josh. That to your word when that's who you're going to go after is not is not the smartest so i think. We're definitely gonna get josh tears next week. If you are a longtime listener sister podcast you know that we used to hate josh of this. Show especially leah. Yeah because i had only seen him on. Bb's seventeen eighteen hours remember which season and he was the worst. He was the absolute worst on that season. Just oh my god is such a big baby and again. i'm. I'm all for like men women. Whoever being emotional iq i get that. But he's just got the big baby vibes. I don't know how to explain. It just likes to complain about everything. And he's always the victims But i have come around. And i really like him now. Idea the challenge that we do now. We're always reading for him for sure and alec has the motions we can you know. Everybody has their stereotype that they fit into and not just jaw. She's the checkless that we have to go through every season that he's on so we will probably get it next week. Tiny is yelling at c. T. about you hurt my friend in next week's daily challenges where they're on top of the like eighteen wheelers trying to wrestle each other off. oh scary. i don't know who josh's friend is. I don't know who they're talking about. Who's gonna get hurt. I mean i m talking uh so it was about a dude then if he was like wrestling and other I don't know i don't either. There's no telling we'll see it's going to be an interesting week. I'm excited i. What a great season of the challenge. I'm just so thankful to the challenge. God's for the season. I love it so much. This is the season we've all been meeting. We needed these good vibes going into twenty twenty one to like. It's just gonna roll on over into next year. We're going to continue the thin twenty. Twenty one is going to be a fresh start for all of us. I'm excited and casting calls have already went out for season thirty seven. I love that. Keep this ball rolling and you it. We talked about it. I think on patriots. I don't. I don't know if i said it here yet. But casting calls have also gone out for ex on the beach okay. Yeah we did talk about this. I'm so excited. If you guys see any spoilers are you hear of anybody. That's being cast for the show since the dm so he can know. I'm kinda like you know looking around to see. Apparently there's going to be a lot of. Are you the one people i like. That love are either one but we haven't had a season of argue the one in a really long time. So that's kind of weird unlike. Give us a new season of are either one and then put all those people on ex on the beach. I thought we would get another season of the one before. We got season of ex on the beach. I thought for sure. That's how but no where is are you the one. I need answers. I don't know that it looks as if it's not going to be coming back for a while. It comes back at all why it is the best show. It is so good very upsetting. Maybe moneymaker it makes my heart. Happy though k and not should be worth more than money. Well it's on. Netflix sows if you have not watched it go over to net flicks you can do yourself a favor argue the one and you can watch early seasons the challenge so you can get caught up in a nissa. Young isa and young durell are both on the seasons that are net flicks right now so you can see them back in their prime. I love that aric guys will. Thanks so much for listening. If you haven't done so already please leave us. A five star review and go follow us on instagram at spill sister podcasts or support the show at your podcast dot com where you can also subscribe to our patriots. Where recovering life after lockup. We also do on extended episodes their early release episodes of the challenge. Though you're just missing out if you're not subscribe subscribe for only thirty dollars. One tenth of the cost of western on three dollars. A what did i say. Did i say thirty hurry. Were charge thirty. We haven't been on reality. Tv we don't have that clout. We are charging three dollars which is one. 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"An mac os. Ken signs of strength for the phones in the app store updated bela's for developer types and news of a new game and the new series. It's wednesday the third of march. Twenty twenty one. I'm ken ray. And this is news. From mac os. Ken brought to you by yours. Truly and sponsored by audible boss content entertains inspires and informs visit audible dot com slash. Mce west ken or text nocco. Wes can two hundred five hundred to start your free thirty day trial. This show was also supported by people like you patrons through patriot on find out more and dad your support et patriae dot com slash mac. Os can checks in the supply chain show continuing strength for the iphone twelve line. Apple insider has had a peak at an investor note from cowan company after discounting claims of near-term trimming in builds. The peace says cowen has revised its iphone build estimate for the march twenty twenty one quarter upward for the fourth month in a row while commons estimate was fifty five million january that has risen by two million to fifty seven million units in the quarter. That represents a fifty four percent rise versus the same quarter a year ago. Then again we might want to take the year ago. Quarter and chuck it. Because that's when the planet started doing the covert way if you're wondering where the strength is it is straight down. The middle in cowan's estimation the firm says apple's added a million each to orders for iphone twelve and iphone twelve pro while things are expected to slow in the june quarter versus the current quarter. They'll still be last year. Count initial forecast of forty four million units in the quarter is up twenty six percent year on year. According to the peace counting company as a buy rating on apple shares the firm's price target on the shares is one hundred fifty three dollars from strength for phones to strength for apps that run on them. Apple three dot o. Posted a note from ever core analyst at darien nominee in ad rock's all you need to know section. He writes app store. Revenue grew thirty percent in february another strong month in what has been a great six months for the app store again. Year-on-year comparisons are going to be skewed this year. Thanks to the arrival. Last year of the dreaded virus still will run the numbers because darrien noni dead. He says app store. Revenue was up thirty percent year over year in february up forty percent year over year in january up thirty one percent year over year in december as for segments growth is broad according to the note that said he says that music was disappointing. It only grew ten percent. Year-over-year sounds good to me but the street is expecting apple services to grow sixteen percent for the march quarter next couple of years. They're gonna make for seriously tough. Comparisons according to jerry a noni in terms of revenue china remains the slowest growing of the major geos with revenue up twenty four percent however to still well above the single digit growth rate reported. For much of twenty twenty. The solid growth in china also comes despite a difficult comparison lapping covid nineteen tailwinds and the twenty four percent rate is an improvement versus the twenty percent in january. Yeah it could be confusing for a couple of years on our way. Dairy noni has an outperform rating on apple shares. His price target on the shares is one hundred sixty three dollars new betas for the deb types. Macrumors ran a couple of pieces on wednesday one announcing developer betas for ios and ipad fourteen dot five and another announcing a third developer beta for mac os big sur eleven dot three. I've not seen a lot about new stuff and the betas not much. That wasn't new in previous betas. Anyway though there is one feature generating some clicks yet. Another piece from macrumors says the third beta of ios fourteen dot. Five pops an items tab in the fine. My up by default developers have been able to play with that before though it required elven magic by which i made a developer setting. Had to be toggled or they had to go into safari on iphone or ipad and work some elven magic now. Though the p. says the items tab appears automatically for all users running the latest beta macrumors sees the persistent tab as a sign. That airtags are on the way relatively soon though not officially announced airtime to the colloquial name for the ultra wideband tracking units. Folks are expecting from apple eyeballs out with data from tearing study and it does not sound good for a lot of us it seems are hearings being wrecked by the world around us or aware wrecking it ourselves. The mac observer ran through some of the study's findings highlighting some of their highlights twenty five percent of participants experience daily average environmental sound exposure which can include traffic machinery public transport and so on that is higher than the. Who recommended limit. Average weekly headphone exposure for one in ten participants is higher than the. Who recommended limit. Nearly fifty percent of participants haven't had their hearing tested by a professional in at least ten years and twenty five percent of participants experienced some ringing in their ears a few times a week or more which could be a sign of hearing damage yang. Going study is being run in cooperation with the university of michigan school of public health. 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That support was ending for the cbs. All access app now. A piece for my download bog says it looks like major league. Baseball has benched the device as well according to the piece that appears that the mlb app now requires an apple tv hd or an apple. Tv four k to run properly major league baseball hasn't offered a reason for dropping support. But the figure they run the stats thing was announced. Nine years ago this week the number of users using more recent devices likely far outweighs folks still rocking something that came out. During the first obama administration of course still stands for the people who are using the gen three unit provided. They've got an iphone or ipad. That will support the mlb app. Those folks should still be able to watch games on the television. Airplay should be able to pitch the games to the big screen. According to the report a major player and video games is headed to apple arcade to says he knew sakaguchi director and or producer of the first twelve games in the final fantasy series is making a game for apple's platform produced by missed walker. The game is called fantasia of it. Ms walker says players will assume the role of protagonist leo who awaken massive explosion. Only to find themselves lost in a strange land. With only one memory left them as players set out on a journey to reclaim leo's memories. They will unravel the mysteries of the bizarre mechanical infection. Slowly engulfing all that is known to mankind while the story sounds interesting. The visuals sound dazzling. According to the cult computer generated. Three d characters will move against a backdrop of one hundred fifty handmade dioramas in fact the peace has missed walker so proud of the appearance of fantasia in that it created a special game modes for it dimension. Battle allows players to send previously encountered enemies into a dungeon to fight later so they can maximize uninterrupted exploration. No word on. When that exploration begins apple arcade simply lists the game as coming soon and finally today news of another big series for tv plus. There may be a small series. Big names in a press release apple says it's ordered a star studded female driven and series called roar stars already signed include academy emmy and golden globe award winner. Nicole kidman emmy grammy and tony award winner. Cynthia haribo emmy award winner merit weaver golden globe nominee allison brie and more to be announced. Soon the show was created by lisboa heave and carly mench. They created that flex series glow in which community alum brief starred. Roar is based on a book of short stories. By cecelia ahern apple says that is a collection of eight half hour genre. Bending episodes told from a uniquely female point of view an amazon blurb i found goes a bit deeper saying ahern explores the endless ways in which women blaze through adversity with wit resourcefulness and compassion. A takes the familiar aspects of women's lives the routines. The embarrassment the desires and elevates these moments to the outlandish and hilarious whether a student blend of magical realism and social insight there darkly comic feminist fables according to apple or they will be no word in the piece on when the series will land in the stream coming up in a few minutes. This week's guest parallel host shelley brisbane was born and raised in texas. We're off the track track for today's show to get an insider's look at the lone star state on the heels of the recent winter weather disaster boots on the ground in texas in a few minutes. Look for that. show and subscribe. Wherever you get podcasts. I sort of flamed out on tuesdays mac. 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Mac OS Ken: 09.05.2019

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Mac OS Ken: 09.05.2019

"It is mac o._s. Ken bonds apple bonds. One analyst is still dover iphone in india and word of a flood of iphone exploits. It's thursday the fifth of september twenty nineteen. I'm ken ray and this is news. From mccoy the west can brought to you by yours truly and sponsored by squarespace your place online get ten percent off your first purchase of a website website or domain with coupon code. Moco west can that squarespace dot com slash mac o._s. Can this this show is also supported by people like you patrons through patriotic find out more in that your support that patriot on dot com <hes> slash matha west cap babylon wednesday pulled what a few articles have called a surprising move uh-huh apple insider says the cupertino company is getting ready to offer bonds for the first time in almost two years looking to raise cash to fund share buybacks box nother activities without needing to use its repatriated cash hoard because yeah that's a thing apple brought two hundred eighty five billion dollars colors and cash held overseas back to the states after the tax breaks of twenty eighteen now the company is issuing bonds to raise another seven billion according do a bloomberg report cited by apple insider. What does apple need with the money well. It's hard to imagine it needs it. At all that said an entry i read on why companies issue bonds from investors pedia makes in sound like companies that can issue bonds sometimes do whether they need the money johny or not as apple will do with the money apple insider says under the use of proceeds section of the filing apple plans to use the cash is raised for general corporate purposes including repurchases of our common stock and payment of dividends under our program to return capital the shareholders funding for working capital capital expenditures acquisitions and repayment of debt what the money they have wouldn't do that. As i say it appears the companies that can issue bonds sometimes do whether they need the money or not apple insider wanders wanders down a similar line saying as apple still has two hundred eleven billion dollars on hand. It may appear to be counterintuitive to perform a bond offering but it isn't easier way for apple to raise funds the currently low yields of u._s. Treasury bonds could make apple's bonds a better deal. The potential investors with the cost to apple likely to be far lower than if it were to borrow the same cash by other means. I know this is gonna sound ignorant into some but i'll say it anyway. It feels like there might be something wrong with the planet when a company with two hundred eleven billion dollars can practically snap. It's fingers and get seven billion. More people are running gofundme campaigns to cover medical expenses. Something mm feels out of whack. You know what's great about iphone in india. It has almost nowhere to go but up n._f._l. Does even a little ever core i._s._i. Analyst dairy anonymous says it'll be huge. Cult of mac has word of a note from the analyst according to the report iphone currently holds just one percent of the smartphone market in india the way daria noni sees it if apple congr- oh that to a four percent share it would bring in approximately four point six billion dollars in extra revenue alongside earnings upside of sixty five cents is per share and he thinks iphone is well positioned for that growth quoting call to mac dairy. Noni writes that eighty percent of smartphone sales in india or currently priced under two hundred dollars however premium smartphone sales are on the rise nepal can take advantage of this yes and raise its iphone penetration. Just if you points it could have a big impact. The peace points to a few factors working in apple's favor including building and promoting made in india iphones as well as opening an app development center on the subcontinent of course the most promising missing thing according to the piece is loosened restrictions by the government which could mean apple finally opening apple stores in the country according to darien rian noni the ongoing effort by the indian government to attract foreign companies should help apple expand its customer base in the fast-growing country. There hasn't outperform rating on apple shares two hundred twenty. Seven dollars is the most recent record price target. I could find on apple. Here is some decidedly not good news apple insider highlights. A motherboard report has vulnerability brokers are paying less if these days for i._o._s. Zero days because there are just so many of them according to the peace a flood of iphone zero days as has led to exploit reseller za rhodium offering two million dollars for no click i._r._s. Zero days versus two point five million for a no click for android android. Meanwhile the firm has dropped one click zero days for iphone from one point five million dollars to one million dollars for a payout quoted quoted in the piece is a rhodium founder choky becker who said does day market is flooded by o._s. Exploits mostly safari okay and i'm message chains mainly due to a lot of security researchers having turned their focus and the full time i o s exploitation. They've absolutely destroyed the i._r._s. Security and mitigations there are so many i._o._s. Exploits that we're starting to refuse some of them interestingly the thing that always has made android less secure. Its fragmentation may actually be working now in its favor. One expert quoted in the piece says android is such a fragmented augmented landscape that a universal chain is almost impossible to find much harder than on. I o s which is a monoculture you know between this and the lack of detail. Let's say around the project zero report from last week both hitting right before apple unveils new iphones. I'm not saying something is fishy but something smells fishy could be coincidence. We'll keep watching more news in a moment but first a word from squarespace base your place online if you've been kicking around the idea for a site or an idea for which you need a site kick it into gear with with squarespace what i don't know about building. A website could fill a book. Probably i mean i don't know what i don't know. Here's what i do know. The beautiful templates the drag and drop editing tools the way squarespace makes the sites. 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I assume the r. stands for retail. Piece doesn't say what it does say is that burberry's african sumers is is going through some pretty significant changes when it's complete our message will burberry employees and messages to customers apparently as a way to personalize analyze the shopping experience. There is a funny part to the island story quoting that apple and burberry have had a long and harmonious relationship asian jeb over the years with the most recent being the burglary. London fashion event shot using an iphone five s. c. I said the most reasoned some bit of synergy was when former burberry c._e._o. Angela errands left the clothes the air to head up apple retail for a few years. I guess i'm just funny like that. I wonder if our message will have arm. Oji probably won't totally should food and finally today if you didn't make one of apple's up next live summer concert events and statistically it's likely that you you did not you can still join in the fun or listen. 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The Challenge: An Inconvenient Goof

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The Challenge: An Inconvenient Goof

"Hey i'm leah. And i'm ali and we're sisters who watch trash tv together and this is spill cistern. Hello everyone welcome back to spill sister. Podcast you are. With leah and allie. Welcome back everyone. This was a fun episode. I think i laughed the most. And this episode. Yeah there were so many good moments that just like remind you why you love this show. yes funny moments and just like the characters that they choose to be on this show Some of the plotlines of it weren't like the most interesting thing in the world by the. Yeah the little funny moments throughout or just like so good So giftable you know they were so it was. It was a great episode. An actor say after all this shit. We've been talking. An inconvenient goof is a great name for an episode. It was a good name finally. Finally they pulled it together and got a good name. So i could still think of better ones but yeah we'll head. I mean i knew as soon as i saw goof out who apparently doesn't know who the goof. How could you not. And i never really thought about josh as goofy when you think about goofy the character and no oh my goodness. The similarities are so. He's a goof he literally askew and he's just goofy and now i want him to wear a little green hat and big shoes and walk around. Like it's mickey mouse clubhouse the best part about the is a. He takes himself way too seriously to ever do that. You know it he. He doesn't realize he's goofy. Which makes it even better. And i think on that note we can make c. donald duck because he's kind of grumpy sometimes always has got a serious face on. Yeah i kind of a weird voice. I get it. Donald duck and goofy. That's the next pal challenge pairing that we need love it all so right before we served recording. You found some good see us. Let's go ahead and talk about that. It's none of. It is a spoiler. So don't freak out but it just pertaining to this episode good behind the scenes. Imbo lolo has made a statement. Which if this is not your first time listening. You know exactly how i feel about lolo jones so i'm going to try to read this and stay in the center as much as possible. She tweeted she tweeted. Mtv the challenge. Borst me to quit and that is facts. I've never quit anything in my life. Hack i'm one of the oldest olympia. Because i don't quit. I was pulled aside before the show and told to make it look like i needed to leave then. She goes on replying to herself to say. The last challenge was also staged see. Ambig- t technically did not win. There was a drop zone. And they were not in the parameters. Once i realized the producers can change the rules to fit. Who they want to win. I was still willing to stay and fight. There are so many secrets that are not known to the viewers. I beg to differ about that part. Hope that people remember the challenge is not a real competition. It's a tv show. What did they do not show the full picture. But what is entertaining so before we right hate messages. No you are judge and jury with doubtful evidence. Ooh okay we break down though can you. Can you tell the little other interesting. Ke- yes news. That has come out. And then we'll kind of because i think it all ties together discuss so attaching onto this there. There's a big spoiler account. It's like at game. V er and a league. all of the spoilers. I don't know how they know what they're always spot on will look at it before the wake when the season is filming and i won't say anything and then i'll watch it and it all plays out because you just don't know like there's so many shit spoilers out there that don't pan out to be true but this one's pretty legit though anyways they came out and said that low made a comment and josh and casey took that comet to production and production decided that she was a liability and that she needed to be removed from the house. Now since then just still reading through everything it has been said. It was a comment about her mental health Which they have been very big on this season. And i think that if she made. I'm not gonna make any assumptions. Because i'm not gonna go there with mental health. We never know what state of my people are in if she made any sort of alarming comment about her mental health and they were worried about her then. Yeah i probably was best for her leave. I just don't know why they wouldn't let her say that while i don't think she would. I don't think she would've said it because she wouldn't wanna look weak or whatever like not that. I think that's a week thing to do. I think the opposite. But like right. I i can tell. She's like a difficult person to work with. He yes she's just a she probably did say something and then josh non-real like oh shit. This is concerning like. She thinks she's going to hurt herself or whatever. That's the assumption. I'm making and then so producers are like are you okay check ins. She wasn't okay. I mean you could tell an episode. She was struggling. And then it's like okay. We'll like do what you need to do. But like we're not gonna let you stay because at this point in time. We don't think that you are mentally healthy enough to be able to stay so you need to go. You can frame it. You wanna frame it about your such an athlete that you have to go or whatever right fine but like you gotta go. And so she was probably pissed because she didn't think that that's what it would turn into. She was gonna throw a fit and get what she wanted. And may get the producers to edit things for her way or to make challenges. Go her way. But that's not how this shit works. And so then instead. They said you need to go home so now. She's pissed at them because she didn't get what she wanted and now she's lashing out that my assumption from an hr perspective because that have employees to handle their business sometimes too. That's just how it goes. I can see that because we'd had such a bill now. This could just be the magic of editing and very well aware of that. That's why when she says oh. The viewers don't know all of the tricks like okay. Well maybe your average viewer doesn't but the majority of us who are deep into reality. Tv understand what we're getting. We know it's a magic. Show that your listeners get it yeah i mean we call fiction should all the time and if you know there's no way then you find yourself somewhere else another podcast since you because we have to pull that curtain back like the wizard of oz here. I think she was building so much on. I can't do this or never gonna let me win. Poor me poor me. And they weren't winning any daily challenges. So what are we supposed to believe your low. It's not like you were doing amazing. And they were literally blocking you from going in or everybody was ganging up on you so that you couldn't win because we've seen that before in past seasons of slush throw ourselves into ashley let's knock ashely down so that she can't win but leave athene those types of things happen and unless they didn't show it that hasn't happened with low low phnom because i think the majority of the house really does like knob and at the end of the day. You're asking hold onto that rope so like late or her you edit that or your your shoes so like i don't know and then there is all this other stuff about you know. Certain people got reduced when they couldn't grab onto the rope. But that josh in devon didn't get a redo. And i just think like sure. Maybe some of that stuff happens. I don't really care. Like i don't either i. It's a not like she said it's show and so. I'm not here for it to be the olympics where everything has to be so perfect and cut and dry like it is a tv show. Gimme a good tv show. I don't really care. And i don't feel bad for you. Lolo like the only part of that that makes me feel bad for you as if you're really struggling with your mental health and i hope you get that taken care of 'cause that's not fun but like other than that i don't i know our girl heart. It's a hard one to dissect because the mental health aspect is there So yeah i need some of its yeah some of it's legit but there's also certain people who take advantage of hot button issues hot button topics to try to manipulate situations. Not saying with those what she did right. She could have been legitimately struggling. I really don't know but it happens in people do that to try to like shut down the situation or closed down the conversation And sometimes it works. And sometimes a doesn't i have to be legitimate. It's okay to say that all athletes are not created equally. And just because you're an athlete doesn't mean you can compete on the challenge. Just like leo. He's in the. Wwe in this show was not net for him at this time. He said that in could. Nobody's giving him any hate for that at all. No no you hate when you act like when you keep throwing it in our face over and over again that you're such an athlete and like Then you can't perform. And i want to challenge her on that and i would gladly have this conversation with her face to face it. You know my oldest son plays baseball. We always tell them. It's not always about how you win. It's also about how you lose. Yes and i don't think she was taught that lesson and neither go professional athlete. You have to learn to lose with grace. Don't be okay with losing buying a better way train harder. Figure out what you need to do to get better but come on. They didn't twice. All of those fits together. I definitely acting crazy and throwing temper tantrums. Yes one hundred percent while all that being said let's get into the episode to say. Oh we were on all of that. But jessica go over our last week so we just had amber 'em go home thank goodness an amber. Now we don't have to remember which last initial were off anymore. They all be or makes it much easier We just have one girl skull left but we have one extra guy so they're kind of like going into this week with the assumption that this is a guys week because is a rogue agent But there's still a girl's skull out there so yeah just tin note We have ambien big teeth. I'm just gonna say amber now. Like what am i adding this beyond the end. I too am. I know halfway girls. I don't even need this be. Why take it off. I don't need this be. My notes are riddled with bees. So like yeah. I'm gonna catch myself anyways. So yeah they're celebrating and we still get the whole like amber is so fake. She's a fakest person his house coming from kyle. Yes so rich and to say that somebody else's fake. Are we serious right. Now he no. He's the challenge kindle. There's no other way to put it. He's got the year. He has the botox. He has the hair implants. He had some other type of reconstructive surgery. I think his jaw line facial hair. Implants on his face for a beard. The list goes on and on you. Don't get to call people. Fake like this is just more of a like game recognize game situation like maybe he's not even saying as an insult. He's likely she's fake compliment. She's the barbie to my ken. Y-yeah and then we have more of just like tension building of amber and so obsessed with gabby feels like she was blindsided dunzo her which saying. I see how somebody would've played this game. You've been playing that game the whole time. You don't get to be mad at everybody else now. An you're from the big brother. Everybody lies to each other's faces. This is not new to you. I know but part of the game two is being like putting people on blast for being shady when they like when they're shaved comes out because it makes them look bad and gabby knows that to. She's like now. I look like an asshole. Yeah and actually feels bad. Because she didn't go. She knew that was her chance to go in and get a skull. Well we have a little bit of. Ct mentoring moment where he's like. You know rookie mistakes. it happens. No big deal. She has nobody to blame but herself. And she gives devon and herself the award of being the worst rogue agents which i would have to agree with. I think that they did earn lord. Those bad. yeah it was real bad. She should've gone in. But what are you gonna do then. We have one of my favorite moments of the episode. Which is josh flirting with. I know i have this. Bur what two three seasons now. I'm for josh on. I shipped as we want it to happen. Apparently naughty does not feel the same. Yeah it's just. Josh is the guy that nani needs but she won't go for it. That's literally what it is. I heard a clip online. The official challenge podcast with taurean anita. That apparently josh is a really big horn dog. Did you hear what he said. Chat one night to an isa yes. He was drunk and he was throwing up and they were trying to take care of him and he said a nissan com suck my dick yet but like seriously no. He said it like this to. He's literally crying. No way of like a. Can you please do this for me. Like all feel better. Why oh oh. God i love it embarrassing. Like how embarrassed would you be the next day. He probably wasn't embarrassed. Because i can see a world. Where josh cries at clubs. He drinks too much. Cries shows all his emotions two girls and they sleep with him. I willing to fall for this combine. They do yeah they do. They do an just an. I'm sure people do it just to be like hooked up with last night. If somebody told me they hooked up with josh. I would laugh that i have no other reaction but to laugh because then i would have to ask. Did he cry for you. Yeah of course and does he cry after one of those weird Guys that cries after sex. That would be a no for me. No thank you cannot deal with. I say he's r. Remember anything thank you. That's so funny. Yeah i do. I just missed creepy josh. Like he's just so much fun when he gets his sights set on one girl and they're just so obviously not into him remember when he was so in love with georgia and he's not about that life. That was so great. Yeah and naughty is like we're brother and sister no thank you. I cannot deal with this year. being way. we're getting the walking away which has them into the spout noni. Because the show didn't tell us. I had to see it on the extra clips posted on instagram. But leroy noni has been on tv for ten years together and they celebrated. It didn't make the episode that so you'll good moment. Why would you not want that. We need those moments people. We need those positive shining lights. Plano i love it. We did have one shining moment. This this episode. It was a fun. Par what big t was wearing but she had some contraption on c. T. throwing pillows. That are that was fun. The bio hack. I how does that make us grow. It's a bio hack. I have heard of this. I think it's like electrodes basically to where it's like it's really elect sending electric waves through your muscles And making them contract. Oh more so that you get like a more of a workout. Almost like a tens unit yet. It's like unit technology. I think Fun so i don't know big t on that. Podcast said that it worked well for her. Okay she's like it. Did something because you know i was sore and it was a good workout or whatever and like okay even though you did terrible at balancing on the ball pillows were being thrown at you know. They're just so cute together. They're just like they're the best pairing of the season for sure because they're such polar opposite it really works. Yeah sweet and spicy unique personalities two s and the house and they have two of the strongest accents in the house. Oh good point. I think it just it really like great for tv to see them together. It is i like that We do see big t and gabby talking about the amber drama of it all and then amber of course like comes in in the middle of the conversation like slamming doors and being dramatic. And it's really funny. Do you think she'd mitt to slam the door. Do you think it slipped. I mean i. I don't think she thought. I'm gonna slam the door now. I think she just was annoyed. And in the heat of the moment just like did it and then she's like well. I guess i just slammed that. I'll have to walk away in a huff. Yeah so was it intentional. I mean i don't. I don't think it was like that dramatic okay. It was funny it once. Funny it made for great timing. I appreciate we got to see lolo in durrell chatting and i wish i wish durrell would have giving given lolo more down to earth advice. Been very with her. Don't sugarcoat it. Yeah i think it would've made for better tv. I also think draw was a little scared that she was in a vulnerable state and he didn't wanna say anything to make her crack. He was not trying to crack that shell notices a time. You just keeps telling like okay. You know you'll get attorney. He's got to go out there and win. No i'm not there are just blocking me. Like c. t. I think lolo t say this one time and decided to just grab onto that train. That's what they're doing to me. So i'm just going to say it and then everybody in the house was like coal. We'll just block you then you know. She's yeah this is just not for her. Now it's just not she manifested this I did love durell comparison. The olympic comparing the olympics than the challenge is like comparing a peach to an asparagus. Those were two very different food items to pair together and man. I'm trying to think like which one is the asparagus. And which one the peach because it just depends on if you're thinking from like the athlete angle or from the like in more interesting to watch angle. I think this is just me. I would label that challenge the peach and the olympics The asparagus yeah the challenge. I think so too. The challenges more juic- yeah and then. The olympics is more rigid straightforward. Yes exactly and you know. Depending on what type of peach you could get. It might be a little sour. Sometimes it looks very pretty on the outside. All this is a gorgeous peach and then you bite into it you know. I was not expecting that in some season. That's what we get. We don't get great peach season so true but the figure it out is always. Asparagus and the olympics are always the olympics. You know who's gonna win in certain place true are. Why are you ready to get into the challenge. The daily challenge mission airlift. Yes have you watched wanda vision yet. Now it's on the list. I know everyone's been yelling at me about it. And i need to do it when they showed the helicopter. The red helicopter. I instantly thought about one divisions. If you've watched it you know what. I'm talking about okay. Cool okay now. I have to go watch it so you have to. You're on this. Like what kind of boat was it. I was this past. Bogus speedboat is what it looks like he'd boat thank you. What's another aspect. You're on a fast boat and then you have to hang onto a rope swinging you over the water to drop into the drop zone and then swim over to the platform. I thought this looked really hard at first. But then when they started doing it it kind of easy and everyone seems like they were kind of having fun and it did seem really fun. They made me wanna try this. And normally i wouldn't be down for something like this. I think it could be hard for certain people. Depending on the wind really windy at times. Your turn probably wasn't very fun then. Yeah wind and then really like if you didn't get high up of on enough up on the rope. Yes get your feet together on the road. Then you are. And i think what happens with josh. And devon is the wind factor because your rope looked so far out. And i think i mean we have the wind from the helicopter and then you're in the middle of the waters. You have all of that and the precipitation flying up in your face could make bad combo for sure but everyone seemed to do really well at it. in the beginning. Casey and leroy burrell an amber. Did well kim cam. Just talk about durell dragging amber across the platform for a moment. He's really grabbed her by her life. John god words are so hard safety vest that works to have pulled her out of the water drag across the platform. Yeah he was just like no bitch. Like i'm not waiting for me. Every second counts. Oh my god. That was so funny. And i mean it was just hard hell in the beginning. It's like everyone's doing well like this is nothing and we get to josh. Nantel might whoa. You did it. It's pregnancy brain people all that disrespect just talking about how we with that last episode the disrespect. I'm so sorry before that happened. I was just going to say that. Casey and leroy have such a good team dynamic. I love to see. I love to see kyle and cam work together. Like these two teams. I think that they're my favorite like i'm rooting for them. Yeah i really like a lot of the pairings. This season The obvious sock like devin and gabby lillo don but all right and then betsy in an isa 'cause festive joe socks but like all. The other pairings are really good. Yeah i would say. I just love the four of them. The dynamic between casey and leroy kiling cam i wanna see them in a final together. Yeah me too. I hope so. I mean they seem to be doing really well so yes. We'll have to see okay now. We can talk about the craziness. That josh josh did. During this challenge. Yeah he. i don't know why it's like. He hesitated for his robe and then tried to reach for nones rope rise if he was going to like help her ow or something or like jump on the rope with him and so finally noni just like grabs her robe. Purity missed his and then he's like telling her to drop or some. He's telling her to just put the rope down. I guess so that they won't get a review but then she just falls all the way into the water. It was just a disaster. It was such a mess. I wonder if that's a good point. I wonder if that's why they didn't get a redo yell. Like i could see where it would be really hard that you know. Tj's driving this helicopter. Is he really driving it or Flying it he's all right. I don't think so. I thought that james words. And then i'm like wait a minute. That's stupid. yeah. I know i it. They they do make it look like it's tj piloting this helicopter. But when i watched it the second time around. I was like no way. He's not he's just up there talking shit to them. Which is also okay. So we'll pretend that. Tj's piloting the helicopter so cotija in the helicopter and then someone else driving the boat and you have to line both of those up perfectly yet at the correct speed until i could see where if they did i and then they were like oh shit. Sorry we messed it up review but it really wasn't a review because of the challengers. It was a redo because they messed it up. I you know like you can't you can't make it so much harder for some people than for others right. Yeah i can see that being thing. And then i can also see if you didn't win in your mind. That's production rigging it bright. And if you're willow and you wanna be the victim for of everything. Yeah or josh he. He says that he was trying to give both of them on nones rope. How was that going to happen. No no no josh. When he get on the rope and naughty grabbed my hand and they were going to james bond style that. How would that work on this works. This works. it would have been impressive to see. I will give him that. But i don't think he could have pulled it off. He's he's too clumsy homer. Gosh no way and like he just messed up he. He missed his rope. I mean come on josh. it's just so funny. Because devin immediately of course takes us opportunity to pick on him as much as possible and just go and go and go which. I'm very glad that in the beginning of this episode devin acknowledged that he's the most annoying person on the earth leg. Maybe that's not exactly what he said but that was away from it. Yeah you know. At least he knows that that's how he is but does that. Make it worse that you you weighing. Be better yeah. Because that just makes you antagonist. You know you're buying it and you just want to stir the pot. You're you're feeding off of it. sorry. I'm just like choking on all the bolshevik giving us that's not get well soon But yeah he's doing on purpose. He wants to provoke josh to do. Something may be physical. Because josh physically assaults him again josh gets kicked out i mean. It's just so easy to rattle josh go. Yes like enemy of the season. So he's just gonna try to rattle him any which way he can. It's really funny because remember last season. When josh tried to rattle. Wes like this and west. I don't even like you were not Enemies stop. Stop trying to make this thing. He's even cool enough to be my enemy and now poor. Josh is getting it from devon but it bothers him yeah he's not good at playing it cool. That's not his strong suit. And i do have to say. I was with nani. Where if devon had been doing that shit to me and my partner. I would've reacted the same way. Yeah i would have told him to fuck up. I would have said. I wanted to punch him in the face. I would have done all of those things. Yeah i would have probably not taken any of it that seriously in the first place and just been like i mean it is what it is like. We already messed up. I mean it's over now like in josh. You need to calm down like it's not the end of the world. That's just how. I always am competition stuff if i lose. I just don't like care that much that's not me. And as as you know my husband's opposite you can totally arrays. It's really house. Yeah and it's always really fun when we played like beer pong together like cornhole any like partner things and we lose and i'm like okay anyways and he's like pissed about it for a long time. Yes yes yeah. I just devon is under my skin i understand. They want him to be the villain this season. But can we turn it down a notch. Yeah no the karma was nice to see the instant karma. I always love when you get to witness instant karma And as usual. Yeah that eased the bird a little bit for me. Yeah i mean the has literally. The same thing that happened to. Josh happened to him. Exact same thing and it was just so perfect. But then you see of course. Josh tries to start doing the same ship that him when he gets back on the beach. And he's like yeah. I know i suck like those here will ha like all you have to do like just take it in stride and like nobody in. It's like nobody can get to you because you're right. Yeah like i did suck so whatever. Yeah but i get johnson point of you talked all this shit and the now you did the same thing. Like you you ate your. It was great. It was great. It was really beautiful to see very beautiful. We also saw anita struggling a little bit. Oh she started out so strong. I was like get a girl. Bessie dobie man's planning this to her. She knows what she's doing. Shut off like god being such a ship partner as she jumped on again easily. You show what's up like we just needed like some kind of sound effect of her sliding down so slowly yeah. It was so great on the old school cartoons were they would have like the crazy sound effects like that or mining data poll and like an explosion. Yeah we needed that for sure. It was really funny And then we see hello and phnom take their turn. It was just all so dramatic. Law right is. She couldn't hold on because she didn't get high enough on the rope and she's like this is the hardest thing i've ever done in my whole life. Okay so you're saying that the olympics. It's so much better and like so much more legit than the challenge but yet like you said this is the hardest thing you've ever done so like which one is harder. Okay and let's back up. Just a teeny tiny bit when they're doing their little confessionals or little. Itim's about how they're going to handle this this daily challenge and she makes the comment oh non as a really tight hugger from the few times we've hugged and i'm not the any relations here. I'm just trying to go out there and do my best. Why did she bring him being tight hugger she suffered. I listen. this is what i really think. This is what it is. I just had a lightbulb moment. I think they'll lolo went on this show to find a relationship so she was not all in a athlete mode competitive. She went on the show to be on reality tv. I find a boo. Let's let america see me fall in love the lakes start calling me back just like they did with kara maria and paulie yeah and then non was like that no girl. I'm not doing that. You are fifty shades of crazy though. Then she was already two in her head in her feelings. She can't switch over and try to compete because all she can think about is wanting nam. Yeah no she definitely like fell in love with him. The moment oh yeah. He was nice to her but he was not about that life. So sorry girl didn't work out for you. How she holds on. She says it's hard to hold on. We see her swimming house. This girl going to backstroke. She did it backstroke. And then she was like going in a circle at one point like she wasn't even going in a straight line he wasn't that far of a distance like they swim crazy long distances on the i'm sure for me it would be a struggle but like yeah. We're the challenge. It wasn't anything that insane. And she's like back stroking making all these like grunting noises in phnom literally national. It's like i looked over. I said fuck that. And i discussed dying laughing. Goes like all my goddamn you did not just buck that to her as he did. Because he's like she's the one that ruins it. She's the one that that ruins it. It's not going to be on me. No and i'm sure she wanted him to come in like rescue her and blow. You know it would be a good partner and like like come on lolo. You've got this in nope yet. Another situation you're trying to manipulate lola. That didn't work out how wanted to. She's so mad when they get on the platform and hit the button and instantly turns it into her shoe. Well my shoe was slowing me down because it was getting kicked off and that's what was creating a drag backstroke. All over the place and not in a straight line with slowed down like you could doggy and made it there. Faster could frog it like there are so many other options. Yeah why do people go for the backstroke. Whenever they do these. it's like he had. That's more like you need a break. Kinda thing right. You're giving your arms arrest. But i don't really not swimmers but it was. It's just so frustrating. When nam is describing how like he's basically thrown his backout yet done all this shit and then she's like my shoe my shinola my show. What up shut up. Are you mad because you lost the shoe and you no longer have one or it just makes sense. Just take the fucking shoe often. Swim if it's creating a drag for you. Yeah she's just she like was just such a disaster this episode so then we get to teach and bank ta. And i was just really prepared for being cheated not do a great job just like the world and she just surprised all of us and was amazing and it was so awesome to watch like i had this huge smile on my face the whole time yet she to when she was holding onto that rope she she's in it up there yes and then i loved the like flash over delillo looking like so josh she was she's like yeah she's like. How is this little girl doing it holding on so well when this was causing me physical pain because that's just not what type of athlete you are low in. That's okay. You are a rancher in a bobsledder. Apparently yeah i'm confused on what sport she does but yeah it was quite marvellous. Quite marvelous as a big t would say and he's like what the hell like. Where did that come from. She's like you know just took some classes. Was obama swim team in high school. Just like throw and the out there just like you know. I'm just like a little bad ass. No big deal. I want to mention just in case. I was rusty but you know i can swim. Definitely not gonna be stroking to the platform. If that's what you're asking yano. It was really cute that everyone was so excited for her lies and everyone just was hugging her in like it was. You know that's one thing everyone can agree on. Like big t is adorable and you have to root for her I know i love that. Everybody is on the same page. There i also want to know if. Ct carries a stopwatch with him because he always knows when they win. He's like we won. He knew as soon as got we won. We won by a lot. Does he is. He's been doing this for so long. I don't know he has to make his head or something or he has a secret racing going out. Yeah it was the same thing for would they did. was it. no it was it. Was it trivia hanging off. The it was the one that were they were hanging off the wall. Whatever you like right down to win. She could let go like he knew exactly how much longer she needs a hold on for. Yeah how does he know this. I don't know he's just he's c. T he knows all so yeah. They won by a long shy and my immediate thought was like ok. Both of them need their skulls. The easiest team to be at this point is gabby indebted and then of course gabby and devin come on the screen. And they're like this is great because these are and we're never going down there and they were just like so confident. And i was like i don't know we'll gabby says i know they're not gonna they're not gonna put us down there. We won't be cervo. Iago gabby because they want to go down there so of course be vote dumb ass. You're going to be the house. Vote yes exactly so then we see lolo crying of course Saying that she does not feel like an athlete so every episode until this one. She reminds us that she's nathlie. This episode choose an offer like an athlete. And this is where. I think we really need to emphasize on what she says. Because this is what i think. Played a factor in her leaving when she kept repeating. I'm embarrassed i'm so embarrassed. That more all of this came out about the producers. Asking her to leave. That was my go-to. She was embarrassed that she couldn't perform in cheetahs. Didn't wanna do it anymore. So she left. Yep yeah that's definitely what it seems like. I think she's thought she was going to get better at it. And then when she saw this episode she saw that's how she came off and she's not happy about it. So now she's lashing out the producers maybe producers are just sitting there counting their dollar bills not giving a shit what lello has to say exactly and guarantee you. We will not have to see her again on the challenge. Ever no i think she probably severed that relationship. And i'm okay with that but we would like to her on buried for sight if anybody could make that happen. Oh my gosh. That would be such a trainwreck. That show right now. Guys is crazy. But i won't get into it so then we see Everyone kind of talking about like what they're gonna do and ct has to pop in hang. Is we have an immediate napping josh bowl last. And he's like a want to goof the goof the and you know that's that's the best second option that he has out there. I think but it's like devin would be so much easier so i do feel like with the way things shook out this episode. He's probably kind of okay even though he says he wanted to goof. Yeah he says oh. Debit is such a good friend. He's only in the house right now. he's had my back. I mean how's he has he right. It's just you're just there. You're on yet. Because he's decided that he's gonna be so big brother sucks and i think that's a lot of why like like everyone seems to be very confused as to why like big brothers. Show powerful this season will. I don't think any of that started until devon started this whole big brother suck team anti-big brother so then big brother felt like okay. Now we have to defend ourselves yet and so they got closer. Like i think he created this. He pushed them all together. I mean you do see yourself devon. I think they still would have gravitated that way. Especially fassi casey and josh. Yeah but amber seems kind of like a floater. In the beginning. Until when casey was talking to her at the igloo. I was like ooh i don't know she's going to be all in on this big brother alliance. She just doesn't seem like it but devin kept doing all talking so much. Shit that i think it did force her that way and so they're like oh we'll make it a divide and we're bringing all of our partners with us. Yes and he actually did talk about that on the anita tori podcast of like a lot of the reason that he hates big brother so much is because he since he came on the challenge from are you. The one has always tried to form an argue. The one like alliance and nobody would ever do it. Nobody wade stay loyal to each other. They ended up like getting on team. Bananas team west young. Kara team paulie whatever was happening that season and he could never get everyone to be on the same page and i'm big brother shows up and they're able to do it like that and so he. He like admits that that's kind of part of the reason why he hates big brother so much. We'll be in. when are you. The one really started coming on the challenge. Was i wanna say season. Thirty maybe twenty nine but around the error people did not like that they were like what the fuck are. All these argue. The one people coming on here they would have eating challenges that they would make fun of them and say oh of course they get the easy challenge. Get these people out out of here. And that was in the same network. That's still on empty young. And so i think because the challenge and big brother are such big competition games on tv. It's game respects game. It's a very similar structure when you really think about it. I mean it's x. instead of just voting person out directly you. vote them into an elimination. That's right only difference but there's a challenge every week. They do an additional challenge on big brother. That's like for vito They have the live feeds. But like other than that. It's the same thing i would live. It's please give us live. Feeds know come on paramount plus coach by. We put this on our on our instagram. But they did announce a all star season. I don't like that name in kind of teasing the an og season for a while. And i guess they don't like to use that term analogy for some reason But y'all there's an all-star season and we saw some of the names on the helmet of who would be the only one i recognized because i'm not as like i don't know all the people was true. Shell shell because she was on mary for. Yeah she showed. Her assen looked terrible on that show. But i mean knotty. That's typical ultra. Shell big easy is supposed to be on there. He's a fun one to watch. Having released a full cast list yet. But there's a lot of rumors floating around ruthie to other people but the on whatever. I posted my thoughts on the paramount. Plus on her instagram story. So you guys can go look there. It's bullshit. I don't feel like people i like. People been wanting an og season for a really long time and There hasn't been a excitement for this announcement that i think they were expecting. Well i don't think you can call it an all-star season unless it's all past winners Okay so that's what we're wanting more winners. Only if you're going to call it all stars but like right now also on paramount plus they just announced that we very first cast of real world. Which was new york. They're moving back into a house together thirty years later which no crazy like. It's like they have grandkids. Be i mean yeah. Yeah so crazy. Like what are they going to do. You're going to be like. What are we watching on net flicks. Tonight they're going to go out. It's going to be interesting to watch. I mean i'll watch it. But i wouldn't want to do that. Overture the yes. It was like if you're going to throw it back old school and that's what you're doing. Then that's what you need to really capitalize on that. Don't call it an all-star season. Yeah it was all of us would be on their bananas would be on there. There will be other. I mean they kind of do that with big brother to where they say all stars and they're not really all stars they're just people from past seasons and usually people who were fun to watch kind of thing like Call leading it just like a you know like the challenge legends legends. Yeah i kinda get. Why like jesus. It's like original gangster. Maybe they don't wanna use that terminology or something but settling. You could call it the oc the original challengers though see. That's also a little confusing. Okay anything else. Now we're back intermission of sidebar. Sorry so then we get another top moment from the episode. Where tnc t make their grand entrance to angel as a set of centerfold and it was just so cute. And so fabulous. I really liked their outfits. I liked coordinated. I was really feeling jeez. Hair yup the pink hair. The sunglasses the leather. It was just so good. The music was perfect. Gay i i really liked to end. Big says she's the fun police. Everybody has to have fun. Or you're gonna see yourself down. The crater will apparently her nc t made a rule that night. there was no game. Talk aloud in club penguin like you had to just be drinking partying having fun. No game talk was allowed. So that's why when you see noneya leroy a corner. And she's counting her fingers and he's like they're going see you because they were taking that shit seriously like they were like no like we told people. Do not like. We're not doing this tonight. We're just gonna have a fun night. We'll be. I love that too. And i think it helps with because they knew they were going in so if the double agents knows no matter what i'm going down there it really doesn't matter who the house vote is right. It's like just let's just have a good night you know sh- it's been crazy bear kind of at that point in the where you start to lose your mind a little bit. You've been in there for so long and so it's like just let loose. you know. Have a little fun with it. I loved that leroy told naughty. Hey guess what. They're thinking about throwing in josh. Just a heads up. I don't care then your friendship. I don't care how big of a bad ass josh thinks he is. You're not going to bt. Like i hate to buster. That's going to happen. Nash we also see devin and amber Reconcile i need to know. Do you think that gabby was in the right or in the wrong for being salty towards devon over this conversation being salty. I'll say that again being salty. I don't think she needed to check herself. A little bit is. She was being a little extra at him like that. And it's like. Do you have a crush on devon like what's your deal you know. It was almost like that. Like why are you freaking out so much like you have been hooking up with vesey right and hanging out with josh like devon. Says he's like really been fraternising with my enemies this whole time like and i've never said anything to her about it and in it's like yeah. He is obviously just using amber to hopefully get her vote. That's all he's doing. And so why are you taking it so personally. I don't mind take. Yeah i agree with that. And i also think that there was a little bit of jealousy because amber didn't go to gabby and she went to devon and a gabby my woah. Woh he threw you in e blindsided blindsided just as equally as i did. So why are you going to say like. Oh i still like you though. And we're still good with him. But i painted to be the bad person because listen and brain no dummy you. She knows that she can bat her eyelashes and get men on her side. She did it throughout the season of big brother to like analysts. I'm never one to judge a girl for using her. Looks to get what she wants. Because men are going to try to use you for your looks anyways. It's always use it to your advantage In so i'm like. I was not judging her for it and she was. She was doing it and he was unit right back to her. They were both full of shit to each other. Great i loved it. I'm like yeah to feed each other bullshit who cares. I wasn't mad at him for it. And i wasn't mad at amber for it. I think the also. I understood where gabby was coming from. But i also understand gameplay of let me just like drive that wedge a little bit bigger between those two partners because gabby is already manage. She didn't get a gold school at. It's mainly because of him. So if i make up with him she's going to be more mad at head and then it's going to tear their duo apart. It's smart it's smart moves. Yeah the the best thing gabby could've done. This situation was acted like she could not give a shit and And just been like okay cool and making up like i'm gonna go hang out with vesey now. Yup piece i mean that's that's what you gotta do people. You just gotta seem unbothered even if you are bothered so then yeah she. She kind of like approaches him. You see josh like talking a big shit the next day being like i don't care like i'll go up like i'm prepared if i need to defend my school in leroy's like that's cool and all but like that's really stupid. Override that how about how about you. Try to stay out of elimination and instead have been all like here com. let's go like that's just not to play right now. Leroy knows exactly what i said you do not want to go against cdt onto it. Yup and devin kinda breaks it down of like this is a pivotal point in the game and it is like the numbers are getting close of big brother versus anti-big brother teams. Basically what it is and there's a few people in the middle and it really kinda comes down to durell. And where is his up his vote and go which to me. There's a few others who were not so anti-big brother as much as it may seem to devon like i think cam and leroy you know are a little bit questionable. Which did you notice. They did a burn vote. Yes they voted for. Nomin lolo and that was i mean that was basically a vote against devon. Leroy is the king of burn votes. He always does it anytime. There is a pivotal vote. He's a. I'm just going to burn it out note. Put it on somebody else. Yeah so i mean it was interesting that all the heat got put on durell this episode and i think you could put corey in the same category with that group to think. There's a whole group of people who weren't so cut and dry. Everyone thought i questioned that. Why are we putting the focus on durell when his partner is amber. who's in the big brother alliance. I i is this dot com. And right he's going to go with his partner. Yeah it was. It was kinda weird. It was kind of confusing. But i was like. I guess i need to have a storyline for the show So yeah they get to deliberation and devin is like yelling. Ct wants josh to go in. Like everyone's just averting 'cause like corey kind of acts like he's gonna say something but then he diverts devon and then devon diverts to see t. and then like eventually. It gets back to josh who has defend themselves. It was just funny. 'cause nobody wanted to like be the one to say anything in corey had to be the mediator because he's the rogue agent for the fifth time and he doesn't get to do anything else compete any camera times was like well. Shit i gotta be the mediator deliberations so they show me a few times. Yeah exactly and josh devon just basically ended up going back and forth and josh is like you're just all about protecting your numbers and devin so good at like preparing his logical argument in his debate. Points you can tell you. It was on debate team in high school. And he's like you know. Just i'm basically a layup and you wouldn't you rather go up against me than c. T. you know in the final. And the in i mean he makes good points. He asked to say he makes it point. I thought josh recovered well from that argument when he said you're just you know don't sit here and try to play the layup card when we know is all about numbers. Yes so i was proud. I was proud of him for recovering. That not getting to anger. You're letting his emotions get the best of him and fly off devon he. He played it cool. I like naughty. Had a good talk with him beforehand and said okay like to switch you have to say somehow we have to prepare here. We're not gonna cause we're not going to yell at anybody. We're not gonna cry. Don't bring up people disrespecting you. Nobody cares oh my gosh ends. Yeah we get to voting and we talked about the interesting leroy in vote and we see that devon in gabby are in fact voted to go in and not josh noni so big brother wins again and of course durell tyrrell's the swing vote. Were so shocked. I wasn't shocked at all. C. t. rudd side to tell devon and i guess because they're in closed quarters. Josh overhears and here comes the waterworks. Were crying because everybody is being loyal to you know. Oh everybody's such josh moment crying over loyalty like that is that's all he does in corey was like man. You just gotta love josh. He's such a big kid at heart in That's the way you described the big old goofy kid. Corey's like dad mode was turned on. Come here big guy. It was really cute to see you. It was cute but the way and isa addresses him. She's like what like you're crying 'cause like you never had friends lost know. Haven't so funny. I'm like yeah. Well that's basically what he said. Niece's calling it like she sees it the yes to both worlds So this is where we get. You know the final moments with lolo. She's packing per bags. And you just see everyone slowly start coming into the room and everyone just giving her this like blinks chair Of like we're pretending to be sad or not sad at all. Oh you have to leave. Oh okay by. I mean oh okay by like literally like had to pretend to voices and as soon as she left. Everyone's like guest. Yeah it was like. Oh my god. I'm a rogue agent. Now and i don't think it's because like her or anything like i don't think it was in a bullying way. I think goes in a way of like shoes. Gonna take money in the final. Like of course a anna. We don't want an olympic an olympic athlete in the final it. Honestly it wouldn't have mattered at this point now that we've seen. What do i think. Lowered the vibe in the house. And i think that the majority of the girls were sick and tired of hearing about her issues quotations issues with nam and they're made relationship because noni has said on the after show. She really thought that they were in a relationship and she would cry to noni about it. Yeah so therapy. Session is over. Nobody has to be lo-lose Pissed anymore everyone can relax. The we re posted that amazing interview with phnom where he's like by. I love you. I mean not like that. Like i mean just like i like you know h. He is just panicking. I don't want her to steve. As in think i'm like in love with her. It was so funny waiting ring. She'll be in germany. As soon as he gets off the plane she was waiting. I just like. I'm such a fan of nov. Want him. i want him to come back and not have to deal with low low like i just want him to come and have his own good season. Maybe find a a little girl. Hook up with or day or something. That's not going to be all this drama. Like i just hope that this didn't ruin it for him. Yeah and you know what i thought about as kind of just one of those random things that come across your mind we are. We are always one season away from a toxic relationship. What like what he winning. Every new challenge season that cons. We're just like one talent challenge season away from a toxic relationship for me and us being able to watch that shit. Show go down so i we love this show so much possible and i think that's why we're so angry because it hasn't happened this season. I mean nama. Lola joan now. True non didn't know about the relationship was in a relationship and unfussy Gabby don't count. Because i'm sorry my cat in the background. I'm going to try to edit out. I don't know what his deal is going completely insane right now anyways he's just like interrupting me mid-sentence but like fussy. It's kinda hard because like we know that he's with tori now kind of stupid. But we watched i dunno back and jinnah relationship and all the talk society of that we watched in jordan. We've watched yara in kyle. And then kara in pali. Yeah yeah so so much. Who is going to be our next relationship. Shit show That's so true. And that really is why. I love the show when you really break. It down competitions are fun too. But like yeah. That's what i really fear for. So we do get to the elimination and we see that. It's the same swinging back and forth competition. That cam took out ashley high second time. Yes in but we see that. There's like some puzzle pieces. It's a little bit bigger so it's pretty obvious it's guys elimination. It's going to be the same thing kind of following the same pattern of what they've been doing through the season And then i was just like getting panicky. Because i'm like wait a minute. My dvr recording is almost all the way up. Like they're not gonna show me the elimination. And then i started to get pissed and then they just put another layer on it and they put the security breach up but we don't get to see who it is. What do you think the security breach is. What's your theory. i mean. The obvious answer is low just went home and so a girl is coming back. And i'm like king dan. I'm hoping i'm hoping it's natalie. But i don't think so. No i can't be natalie because fast when she was going through her miscarriage. But we don't know the timeline on. That could have happened immediately when she got back. It's been like six weeks that they've been in the house and she left like week two or three now holding so. I don't think it's been full month ready to go back after that. Yeah maybe I don't know my cat has opinions about. He's trying to tell us who he thinks it is. I don't either i. I don't know how this would work. But my theory was that nod in corier going to have to face off and then you think what oh you just think like. But it's all it is security right on again and it's not another person coming back already labeled security breach as someone's coming back you know and that it was the same thing whenever natalie left that actually came back right and it was a security breach thing. It has to be that. But you don't think it's maybe not amber in do you. Oh god no. That would be so lame. That'd be like the lamest possible thing they could do but it would be it would make the most sense logistically with cove it. Because she didn't maybe she didn't even leave the country yet and so she doesn't have to quarantine because tori told us the story of how she had to stay in the hotel room or for like three days before she could even leave to fly home so they keep you there for a few days. Maybe if it overlapped timing was right with when lola land. It's easy to just have her come back home now. We'll have see well no out next week. Yep in do we think governor c. t. is going to win this competition. That's the other i mean. Is that a question. I don't know because this is not a strength competition. This is a you have to think. Competition which devon is good. I think he is too. I mean they both are there. I think there this is honestly kind of an equal match. This isn't like a poll wrestle or something where it's super cut and dry. But i don't know i'm gonna vote for c. T. because i can't handle anymore devon and all of everybody that annoys me as off the show. So i crossed. That's the route of goes fingers. Fingers are definitely crossed I t in fingers crossed for not amber be or whatever m coming back so it now have to go. Look at the spoiler pages because i can't remember texts me and let me know because it's okay i will. Our guys will thank you so much for listening to allie leah. And leah's pat this episode and go to our instagram at spills podcasts. For all the latest reality tv updates and had disposes. Report dot com. 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MTV The Challenge RHAPup | Double Agents Episode 17 Recap

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MTV The Challenge RHAPup | Double Agents Episode 17 Recap

"And and hello back to the challenge. Devil agents wrapped up pockets from so seventeen showers. All-stars wrap so too. I am brian go. Hear me as always. My coast is your alley. How are you. i am keyed up my friend. It might be thursday when we're recording miss. It might be friday when or forgive me. Saturday sunday monday when you listen to this but i just washes so it's wednesday night for me. I am amped to talk about. This week's valley takes last year and the houses that we got. I only have one speed such a good episode. This was like a one challenge for me my crazy and my you this week crazy i was gonna say big i was. I was coming back. If you don't like this episode. You just like the show because this is all the show has to offer. So this is great. This is fantastic stuff from start to finish. I'll finally limit as you could have been would've been better but other than that can't blame injury. Everything else was pretty good. I also was so scared because millionaire. Mitchell asked night tweeted something about fatty going in hall. So i was like. Oh dang dang dang get better in all over your head. You keep a pj. I teased mercilessly by people who know me for sago. Dang i should open up to the audience. Yeah but i mean this is all both episodes even though i was watching the challenge. Also what this is a little bit better this. What challenge contact we got going on here in twenty twenty one but the difference a year makes guys. I was worried about you. Write that you were not in stars below. It's better now episode two more. I like to keep keep. It's nice and tight. And i was like a forty five minutes. Doesn't drag on. The dow is absurd. I was a little bit more bullish you next week. We're getting two hours because we you know that size spoken to existence. We should say that the time of this show. We got a lot of questions on twitter. Like are you got sad. You guys aren't covering it we are. We're covering it it's here. It's tucked away at the end. But it's it's there. It's a nice thirty minute slot at the end of this podcast. So i put it at the intro. We'll be there and then soon enough that's all you're going to get from us. So it'll be. We'll be making shorter podcasts. Or dragon things out. So we'll see we're good at one of those things. Let's see we can probably going to be the latter. We'll find that. Is that a tangent cover us. I'm sure speaking twenty minute. Engines realized right before this podcast because they inexplicably had this song. Time it's like that girl is so dangerous soon. T who sings that. Google this because it's going to get relevant in the second the line notice you noticing me fifty song in the episode song that we've had in our disposal for years that is a combat away. So what do you know what i'm saying. I noticed noticing me anytime. Yeah i guess we really the way he said it was just so darn cool but it feels like it could be a call lear. But i'm just blew my mind that pop into my head not five minutes before you record the okay but back to the show. I really think that needs to be talked about and apologies and kudos to any of our challenge peers in the podcasting field. If you've already addressed this point but feeling maybe you haven't brain works mysterious ways. No of my pop in there Well apparently nones brain according to kyle works in mysterious ways to because i love kyle. You're going you don't to pick the three time champ. Love i wanna. Everyone knows i want to have fun. And you're the most fun slow. Kyle danica like a beaming. Smile will sees. You was like. I'm just so happy to be with you again. I'm just so happy. 'cause like facing the grim reaper. He's seen the book. Slow motion straight ahead atom. Besides maybe me. And i think kyle's much better than a can pull off being rude to your face but making it a joke better than kyle. Kyle is an expert fancy finger two for kyle and then he can just cd also and they could just be honest to their partners and their partners. We'll still love them. Don't what it is. I don't think it's the accident. And he just he just like his laugh the way just the his mannerisms the way says it. He just doesn't seem like a mean person. So he's got that a charm down send jim carey swag but it's also i think like you can say anything mean as long as it's funny right like did is not funny fest. He hasn't been funny since he ripped off. Gone and kyle gets the laughs. Yeah my wife is a watch. The like martha this one. And she was obsessed with the way that he would say ninety. Ninety where does she get off skipping the low parts of the season coming in at the exact rate episode tara fair. It's not fair here. Watches like episodes one five and seven teams good season. It's like the bachelor. It's definitely a way to do it. Exactly I had a rough journey with her last week. And i think by putting that out into the world. I don't know if i've mitch watched her or if she was more likable this episode. But i've pretty much done a full one eighty this week on be. Yeah i think by the end of it. I don't know how you cannot be rooting for her. I mean obviously there's a lot more important people to ruin for in the final but at least you know you out like neutrals would be happy to see her. Do well given everything. She went through this this episode both the challenge and like people talking about her and everything surrounding areas. Yeah so. I don't know how i don't know how you want to be really more for her after this week. I'm probably rooting more for her. To come back on the challenge and yes you know. Prove herself generally spite works in mysterious ways straightforward ways. Like being mad at vesey helps me root for him. I am absolutely on record. As saying i am not remember. B and c t win. I'm very upset at the final but not because of amber be because of the other people who lost which will obviously get to jesse. You're telling anyone they earn our stripes. It's like i was running everywhere. Like i've been so i was laid to the podcast cleaning up here all my vomit everywhere. But i do want to give props. And these feci said that she is the only person besides vesey who won two eliminations and is still in the house. Yeah i mean absolutely i mean. Obviously she was going into the strongest competition. But you play. Who's in front of you. She won twice got for her she. She's had her moments sometimes daily. She's like a simple app. She like she holds her own. She's he's good enough competitor out. There notice you know it is i. I wish it was turned up because it gives you. Those aren't bad. Best seat in the challenge in recent memory going down with diem and ct in the whig. Leering cam in this hot tub. I mean let's stop the pot right here. Yeah it was so horrible. I mean this is really just like leroy. Does it with you up for just like the absolute worst heartbreak. I mean the conversation about you know. It's being eleven years eleven seasons. He hasn't told anyone else as final season. But he's like he just his speaking the mosul. He's having his best season in such a good place and he's like so excited for final onto do well and if it doesn't go well it's kind of looking like it probably won't go well. It's just like up. But like i think he's almost okay with it if he doesn't win because of how well this guy is going to make the final so like i'm i'm bracing myself to be more a piece of it more at peace with it because it seemed like he would be more at peace with it. I took this absolutely everything you said. But i also took from this conversation. You know. it's it's rare. I think it's fair to say as someone who has also been in my fair share of toxic relationships. I think i can say that. It's rare to see a healthy relationship demonstrated. I'm the challenge. No disrespect to recently married couple and recently broken up cobbled or see the way that kamin leroy interact all season but especially in this hot tub to see like the way they talk like power couple gets thrown around a lot and mtv. This is a power couple cams like worry about to execute all of our goals starter new life and didn't just the way they hype each other which we talked about all season but just like in this real moment between them like lee. Says it's the. I'm getting close to them. Eleven seasons they've all been failed. She's like those are lessons. That's what got you here. They're talking about what they represent. I couldn't do this without you. She says you're my inspiration. Like if cam wins leroy will be so legitimately happy for her and proud of her in a way so healthy and amazing and vice versa. And like. I was thrilled to see this on tv. And i'm jealous. I'm not dating both of them as a threat. Absolutely and he kinda you kinda forget that they. They weren't deep toxic but they were sort of like a toxic you know make each other jealous type leisurely. They weren't some smooth sailing. We'll job thing from the jump. So the see them come here and just being says a good place and see both of them just would be so genuinely happy for each other in not any type of fake way. It would be great to see them win. But yeah i mean there's just so there's just so happy in this nice to see on the show we've also seen a lot of couples bring each other down right. Like people said like tori did worse. When jordan was there jenin. Zach obviously carmen. Poly like polly was always like police. Stinks to like you know paulie could get along with kyle without carl maria. Whenever viewer you don't need to know about that. Luckily we can just reality out of that but they have genuinely improved each other's games and made each other better with besides a little strategic from leary. Which i'm excited to talk about But that's really cool to see especially as people get older and the challenge world and and are know. I'm not gonna like every couple. That comes out of this franchise. I don't know that i was doing that. But maybe i was. I won't because of them. I give dock to the eighties theme the eternal flame a song. I like absolutely has no business. Being played quite loudly over this conversation very loudly. i'm glad he picked it up. I was like a yeah. Could we have all your control. I want to hear the conversation where i don't care about the song i want to hear them. Be cutesy with each other. Let's let's hear that. Let's keep the music to we know when they're slowly fading away and then he can cut to the saw. The music was very loud. Chows early doesn't music so well but not it as as arab you'd say it's not eh not not at when tj comes in wake up ct during his early morning workout. He was he was still sleeping but five thirty. Am tj comes a storm in so wake up for the final challenge. Yeah i hope. Kyle had his eyes peeled on. Mcat in bed. because kyle picard job. Because i was like a cd should meeting deli meat and five thirty in the morning after i workout but i guess he's big. He's not here anymore. So you can be slipping train for elimination. So he's he's in good shape. Should've been trading kyle giovannia. Yeah setting up the pillows in keeping his finger impact been the widow. What do you think about when we saw the preview for next week that it was going to be one partner stolen away. I wasn't sure the mechanism and work. How do you feel about the way they did this. Where the partners could choose. Who stays and who goes. I thought it was great. I love anytime. you're making people make decisions rather than show forcing it on you. I think it was interesting. How you would think of this type of situation. The person going away would almost be in less in control. You would think the person stand behind. It would be the one doing more of the work. The capture the other person backs. I was surprised that all the guys led the charge of all right. We'll go and let the women stay especially knowing it's guys especially for kyle for kyle. He knows he needs to win. So wouldn't you want to try to do something different in this situation. Where like all right all the guys go and let me see if i can flip this on. Its head and i'll stay and maybe that'll give me an advantage. Yeah i think if. You're a lot unpack there. I think firstly. I agree with you and only cam says this. I was screaming. And then cam finally is like you know. We're probably going to have to dig them out because like if you've seen the challenge. Yes that's what's happened in the past like the person who shows up second has had to do the work. I always think of that stupid buried alive challenge say stupid because i would never want to do it. But where where one partner had to dig their partner out of basically the ground Not basically the ground literally the ground So agreed with you there. And it shows fassi's lack of experience really with the show even though that goes back and forth. But i'm convinced now he's like never seen the show and generally. I think this is mostly new crop. I think with casey and leroy. It's a tossup right like both of them are strong enough to be. The ones going are staying. So i think for them. It was really like whatever what you bring up for. Kyle is a great point. Because i think everyone would admit including noni that kyle noni have low chance to win just any given challenge against the field right now. Show assume you're gonna lose if you do the same thing as everybody else for everyone else that make sense to play it safe like bill risky like everyone else like they know. When is a good chance we know is going to go away but yeah for kyle. Roll the dice do something. You'll see what happen would would've played out perfectly for them too so it. It's a bummer. Thin and take that chance here. I mean cam jumping ahead like wins this basically single handedly. Corey went and camps to sorry of care. Corey stayed and someone they lose. I think to the women corey's on doing that. Math for shit probably. Yeah you probably not. That's a good point though. That played a big factor. So yeah that probably back. Been a big factor. And kim i mean she was half a second seemingly it was ripped through it. She had a background calculator so We again we get confessionals where people are saying. He has no respect for his partners. I was happy this week that we finally get. It was motivated by strategy but finally someone says something about him not respecting his partners. Because i was getting a little suss myself or just frustrated that everyone's talking about a terrible he is in confessional and nobody's talking about it in the house. Yeah that's that means is clearly. This is like a thick. It is in the postseason analysis. That like this is up in that. Everyone's talking about at least at this point like it's caught up to the people now remaining meeting announced that this is something that now says. He has a reputation about that. He is not a good partner. He doesn't know how to motivate people he doesn't know how to work with people he's a self centered and that's how he bought himself and he he is not a good person to work with and that's now the reputation that he's had from three or four partners so a like a cancer. It's not a one off thing. Fessing needs to look around and learn from these vets right. He's he's certainly not the first person and not the worst person at being rude to their partner right. Like battle of the seasons comes to mind is a horrific like verbal abuse situation and people want their partners so fast is by no means the worst. He's he's not even at times. The worst example like definitely see t. Has outdone him on the season in terms of disrespecting his partner but look at the results. It's it definitely takes work and communication but look at the results. Got big guy when you treat your partner with respect and build them up. Terrell an amber people lifting their partner up and getting results from them. I'm tired of feci. Making the excuse of i can't compete because i have trash partners. And that's it. I'm just saddled with them. This was a big time train episode. And yeah. I mean a lot of the times that they've lost. I mean he wanna kick ninety in the face. That's why they're not even doing anything so he means to take a look in the mirror understand. Some of the reasons they lost is just not partially directly because of him. Working in a team is a part of the challenge. Small team big team working with different personalities working with different physical and mental abilities like it's extremely frustrating to hear him. Excuse this or but. I put from his perspective. Like i get it. I would not want to be saddled your work on a group project right near like off like this person's not pulling away whatever it's frustrating but like he he played on he played on football. Wow allie. he's a football player on a team. Like it's really kind of inexcusable to me. That he's not able to bring that part of it to the game and just give people a chance like i was the number two and do all here but he was already with the expectation of amber is gonna suck like chill perform best when she's with you start out with a positive mindset before things out i also with a positive mindset for the first time ever. I look forward to the day that we're talking about c two point. Oh got the athletic ability and understands maybe not all the strategy that's fine but like the social game of it and and being a team player. Let's see maybe maybe someone will be the christoph sandwiches one the. Oh my god. I was dead. That was so cute. The best of the best favorite fanatic finale whoops daily types that many final. We often talk about that. Tj calder mini final two. How did you like the one-sided mini-van go with it. I i just a little over the math. You brothers upper four. I'm with you. i'm over the math. Like give me some carnival games. Like i i like those. Those are more either more visually appealing to watch than trying to see someone. Do math or kind of makes me feel stupid. I dunno i saw that right now. Probably not so. I don't wanna like make myself feel stupid and then watching rather watch someone try to call you. Know like a ball and a cantors on my bad. I wish they would bring more of those back in the mix as the checkpoints. I show glad. I don't even have to say i totally agree with you. Especially both of them really like. It's just testing one skill. That's like a you know it. Or you don't like amber could not do the multiplication in her head and it was hard it's seven hundred and twenty eight or something times nine. Don't ask me on how to figure it out. It's ju- when you have pressure and like you said. I already expecting you to be shit. He's treating you like shit. You have that mounting pressure into your first season. i think someone said that the volcano like it's her first time under pressure not in her life but in this game and that's hard objectively and the complaint i have is. Why are they not timing her out of this. This is you know it you don't situation checkpoints should be equalizers and not total game enders. I don't know if you have any socialism but she actually add even a better explanation for why she was not good at this. I don't know if you saw her tweet about it. Probably not she has. I did see this. But i did not. Y'all you know. I suck at math. I have what's called this calculator aka number dyslexia with man's literally have always struggled about literally have always struggled now my strong suit but tried my hardest. Yeah i mean that's yeah this. Is this ridiculous. It shouldn't be math but if it is math. It should be a five minute penalty or not five minute penalty but like five minutes total. Whatever i don't know how long it took them us all but yeah and also when they do. It's like more fun of like you know like super easy method. They can't figure if you're doing like five times four and you're like struggling doing like seven sixty three times thirteen. That's hard like. I don't care who you are trying to figure out that's hard to do that. That's not funny to watch them. Struggle like the reason why trivia in spelling spelling trailer and there is adding like like random letters do it. And that's what makes it funny when it's hard math. That's not even entertaining. I'm with it. I'm with you so an amer be gets to the checkpoint first sushi's competitive in terms of the running so this was an unfair treatment of her completely to me. I also office ended up being kind of interesting sort of like a quote unquote audition for the women. When the men we're gonna be picking new teams in the elimination to endow sort of like a happy accident for this. To be just like one-sided all the women competing kc underperforms here big time varies very very surprising and everyone knows it like they were on the see ninety beater. He's she didn't beater by lot but the fact that cheater at all was very surprising and adds a little boost of confidence for leroy ninety going into next week that will give you the boost. That's you'll ninety five mile run. That's not nothing then she you know two checkpoints along the way and peter volcano. I maybe. I was just trick by the magic of television. But i finally woke her. I wasn't like maybe. I are fighting over the basket. Like ninety had clearance a very impressive. I mean we all know ninety comes through the competition gets versus in. She's coming through into nanny when she like. After eleven seasons. People are still underestimating. Me again. I mean we still are because you not that good look. I don't wanna hear about it. We have one week of sending pure positive vibes for noni and leroy win speaking it into existence listeners and brian he'd my words hell hath no fury like me and leroy. I don't want to start with you ryan. Don't with me. Whatever more negative advanced the. I'm positive portrush over here about ninety. And you think your smooth you do it subtly but it's apparent sc. Now it's right in my face right right right okay. All of that last joke about here we go. All die saved her full chess. Like none of this bullshit. The journey eleven years later. Noneya leroy the culmination zet brian. Visualize is sit out. You're sitting down you sitting down personnel by sending bell. Okay plant your feet firmly on the ground. I want all the listeners. Listening to do this to is take a deep breath like it's the only aesthetic you're getting for finger bent half the other direction and look in the future. See the final see. The snow covered mountains in a climate where you didn't even think had snow see. Why no that not. That's not the case here but like see. Tj bundled up while people are sweating. He's standing there. See the challenge flags waving in the whipping winds and see leroy and ninety struggling confidently approaching tj with disbelief and hunger in their eyes and visualize tj pudding his precious finger on air horn and declaring them the winners of the challenge double agents. I got the chills to hear terrible eighties music. That will play in the background too loudly and see a say with me. It's happening it's happening. Wtmj's swells beautiful. Oh my god. Starting still writing books listened to that picture every day every hour of calorie. The i sent a prayer circles every day. I started on today. The second one. This'll be everyone's whatever. The next day is friday. This is fry. Everyone's friday prayer circle orgasm for the weekend. A gecko on this finals. Taking me straight into thirty. Because we're gonna be podcast right after the finals surprise. And that's a an ordeal because i'm gonna be. I'm putting champagne in the fridge. Either way it's going to be working to michael scott. We'd be happy. He said drinking brace with the alcohol who by the way alcohol. A bad rap on your mistress pockets. I don't know what the heck last week. But this podcast. We trash alcohol. We've are very publicly a pro alcohol so we say alcohol was the enemy. And i'm gonna say tonight when we talk about your show and kitty hawk for the people of the show. The pro for us the viewer. I've been saying such nice things about you. Podcast this mug. I talk about on the podcast. And that's trashing alcohol was it. That was the big big live. Got sober homer on the other end of that. Podcast is very different vibe. Both guys both good to keep more of the same thought that was like you're running theory here the well. I don't really know you to be a big drinker to be a drinker. But i don't. I don't know what you're doing more what was the. What was the name of the wind. He said he was wine. It's let's blitz would be like you want to start a winery. Blitstein snuck great. Killed that sunday sunday. Football wine crowd blitzer better better as a beer. I guess i think we can make a new market. We carve out a niche chug. Wine you chuck the blitz wine you smash the can on your over your head. Come off all right. Let's work on that off air. I don't wanna give any more ideas to the crowd can't do that can't do that wrong. Sweater honestly from that visualization my going literally chills. I had the chills after it was going to be a lot. Can watch like a playoff game. Here this is it this the super bowl. Bb's play us all right so can this is pretty funny. I love corey here. Giving all glory to cam. That's my puzzle queen care. Keep such meticulous track of her nicknames. That before and i'd leave her. It's it's hard to believe. No one's called her. That put i if anyone would know. It's killer so she taken that over from. Sarah she now. She's the puzzle. I also over there starting the puzzle and just let me do. I think garcia does do it. That's why like up at like about like we saw that with When she was they were battling over. Who would do core is just not good. I mean it definitely when you have a complementary pair and can jump to this like i understand why fest he picks casey and i think they have a good team dynamic but i think cam would be a much more complementary partner skillset wise for for fethi. Oh definitely i mean cam is by far. The most well rounded woman left the maybe even to start. I guess we don't really got to see natalie probably her natalie. It would be top to going to do this season. I think clearly there. It's up to what a credit to natalie that we're still talking about her. And this i think you go cams experience right to like i agree with you. That cam was should have been the first overall. Pick obviously l l. blue that. But i'm also i mean i'm rooting for non leroy. Like i've never rooted for anyone or anything in my life but god my happy to see corey in the final with cam. Yeah i mean corey. I was gonna say obviously like circles all around for nine lire but cam and corey are a good backup option just for like for cam. Say the how much she dominated the season for corey. See how far he's calm. He's we've seemingly get much better person and he's still everything so if it can't be a cameron leroy and i'm not gonna even leroy. Sorry sorry ninety all vases cam corier a good secondary option are eight timestamp around thirty minutes into the podcast if you want to go back next week if corn cam do win which they won't but if they do win to go back and listen to the letter to yourself like reminding us it's okay. We're gonna be okay. We should we said we fill the video and your cells support for this. Podcast comes from pal. Small business owners. Turn your smartphone into a cash register pay pal. Qr codes or the safe and easy way to get paid in store and they deliver the same security and trust pay pal is known for online in person. 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I want to get the chance to meet our new members to so a special orientation meet up for the new patrons coming at the end of april issues or just want to say hello. I'd love to see you there. The start of the month is the best time to try on being patron because you get the benefits for the whole month and can cancel anytime before the next month. If you don't like it so get more involved in the rha. P. community and all of the benefits we have to offer for you at rob has a website dot com slash patron. That's robbins website dot com slash patriot. We were getting into it on twitter as tom. Palmer is having this conversation with sorry. It wasn't about l. like he was making the argument. That korean cam would be better for the franchise win then and leroy and i agree with that. But we've been putting in the work that we've been here for ten fifteen years with these people and the franchise is going to be fine. Cam is the head of the franchise. She's the why won't say because that's a curse here but she she is the opposite of the history of the show that we're talking about the challenge. She doesn't need this win right now. I don't care about the franchise. I want the closure. I want to go out on a bag. Like cam said yeah. I really like that would be like the they wouldn't like. Mtv's good at recognizing big moments like there show. They will make a big deal if they're able to pull this off and they'll recognize it as a huge moment that as it should be. It's hard because i agree with you. Totally it's hard because he's announced that he's not coming back right so it's like a good by leroy. I think a lot of the viewers. Obviously the challenge is always had its fans. But i think the challenge. I've no res basis for this. But i do think the new era new day has dawned with the brits and the bbc people a lot of new viewers are here a lot of younger viewers. Who don't really appreciate the history understandably are here and he's leaving so it's not even like you can build like a to be continued on his back so i so i get the argument but like this champagne is on ice. I don't care about anything else. But that absolutely absolute- so we got cory and cam in the win. Which sets us up for either. Kyle fasih early roy. One is safe two of them are going in and we actually some interesting strategy to lay out. Yeah this is a minor thing that like did. We really need to make festival. Amer do a walk of shame. All really funny by joy that he's allowed thanks for joining us for that but very funny i winning minded if it was an objectively bad performance. But it's just like feeding sees bullshit and like amber screwed to me by the challenge that there was no time out and it was mapped like in theory. It's very funny thing. But i was like really after that whole thing. I just wish done that all season. I think that'd be a great addition. If the person who finishes last doesn't go into a little nation they should have to show up late for the the winner announcement then. That'd be great secondary but all right as you were saying. I think we speculated this would be an interesting strategic week here. We have it brian. This is what it looks like when it's an interesting week and not someone choosing between girlfriend and another girl that they no. Yeah no it is. They laid out pretty calm. Pretty clear that kyle one way or another is going in. So it's basically they have to decide between leroy and fancy and they spelled out that it's basically case casey's the swing vote that if she wants to stick with her partner with roy then vescio be the house vote and then kyle will win and if not then leroy with the house vote and then i will go and what i love about. This version of libra wear. Has this leroy been for the past. Ten seasons leroy has been under a player who has been willing to swing with the power right like he famously was like working with west when that was like some big portrayal. Whenever but like leroy goes with bananas most of the time in his seasons and doesn't necessarily think of the best teacher for himself. This leroy has not one not two but three plans to avoid elimination and each one of them would be sufficient and impressive on their own. We're like yeah you wait it out to plan is convinced. Casey turn on fussy. The be plan is get everybody to convince Throw himself in. And then this plan is get kyle to go against his best interest and voting and honestly at every step of this plan. These three-part plan unfolding. I was blown away. Yeah i mean. I think you gotta have a little bit too cam here for basically being leroy's like protege teaching them how to properly do strategic thought because i think him hiding behind bananas all those he probably didn't think about musty. Probably does they all up in anna's deal with all this stuff. I'll just chill have fun new album houses. Probably doing whatever was is best for him. Cams the doing whatever's best. Both of them which is obviously key difference and then he's able to start coming up with these plans on his own. He was cam earlier this year. Giving leroy what things to do and a here. Leroy's coming up with some things. I wish cam stepped up and stopped me from doing one of the things this week. Especially for canzone sake. But i mean the the thought all there. Yeah i mean. I think cam gets credit. Noni cam and corey get credit for convincing fussy detroit himself in maybe corey in the number one spot there in terms of later that working. And that's out of allegiance and respect for. Can that corey does that. So totally agree. And then yeah. I think we re comes in with the best possible. Pitch to casey which is not like you owe me something. It's they're going to pick you so like today. don't wander she's me. They don't want their partners. You're helping your friend fussy by giving him the push to go in and then pick you from me like that's an incredible level of thinking that yes cam would think of leroy. I i give him credit for this. That like most people on the show would con- like a kyle would say you owe me because we were partners. Yeah it was worrisome confessionals that he was resenting it almost that like all the they set this all up from the jump at the last. Second fessing n casey with team up. Do you think that's been like this mass late. Obviously fancy would want to be with casey. But i don't think they were playing leroy this whole time. I think they were just wanted to work because they saw themselves as their friends. And then we'll be partners with those confessionals. Were fully get it. Yeah i agree the confessionals from leary definitely felt out of to what he was saying. Because later when we're in the barbershop he says like i'm i'm not willing to go down and defend my partnership with casey. And i know you guys are going to take casey. And he was like casey was trying to convince you to throw himself in which is what aligned with what leroy wanted so. Who cares what rationale she's giving like. I don't know if they coach him to say that they edited out him saying other stuff if he's just bending and confessional because like yeah it's probably annoying like maybe it would be better if casey was somehow saying like i'm going to vote you in and tell you i don't want you to pick me but that's crazy that's unrealistic. So i thought i agree. I mostly dismissed his confessionals because they didn't jive at all what i was seeing in the episode. Yeah so devon s. Why do camera not really as their best options for leroy to go down so he can keep casey as a partner if you get stuck with amber or ninety. He's losing so should they have swung this around and embrace leroy going down so in that situation. Leroy's house vote leroy's house vote or kyle could be houseful. Just keep you see out. Its leroy versatile. Why i think i think leroy can't do that without seeing the elimination. And maybe there's a world where he did say that to cam. I'm making this up completely barn. Didn't want to go in with cam in the driver's seat. Maybe you do think like all right. Let me put it in fantasy. So that i can go in and then i decide if i want. Go in against fasi. It's a puzzle if it's whatever but honestly and i think i was higher on. We were as chances before leary's losing lever tells you he's losing to be here in hall in it kyle. I'm not sure. But i don't think i don't think casey's a good enough partner to warrant risking losing where i think casey is. I'm sorry to dammar be lovers. I think kate like i do think for festivals game knowing that he's got kenmore seasons in him. This is a worthwhile move for leroy is with its his last season and his worst option is nominee. I think you you stick and you don't go in the elimination yeah. I agree with me a long time to get there. But i agree with you kinds. I think for leroy. The right move is a to let it. I think the best move for leroy was what he presented which was corrigo in dow works out best for him. If it'll really work out what's best for camp but for leroy individually. That's what is best for him because then he could end up with cameras up partner theoretically or something like that. So that's what works. Best for leroy. Yeah i are. They were they. They seemed one hundred percent confident. But were they really one hundred percent confident of what would happen if korean koriee yes. Corey and cam split their vote and canvas for herself to go in the they were just using the same logic that we've been right that typically when the the top team disagrees tease. You're both going in and then in this case just the think but i mean the there's no definitive stance exactly what would happen to tj. Could have you know. do whatever you want there. But they were using the same logic that we've been using. I would be very worried that in this situation where there's no second most votes or whatever like worried enough if i've been the situation that if cam motz themselves and corey votes in cayo if you can't decide both teams with votes are safe and the last remaining team goes in and leroy going in that. I would be worried about that. I don't think that's super likely. But i do think it's a little cheap. That one person can basically throw the whole team in if the other person disagrees Challenge so yeah. Yeah we saw this kind of play out with devon and gabby you're at. That was the conversation we had like bars. And gabby just force the hand when they were the power theme dow instance where they could have tried and obviously would have would have done. We never found out what would have happened at the Double-agents disagree yeah. I think it's so. I genuinely think leroy a no. Do you genuinely think leroy wants to run the final with johnny. I think he wanted to run with casey. i think he really is formed. Like a abondoned closest with with how well they've done and to me. I don't think i want. Like if i think if i went down there and he could have even picked his partner. I don't think he would have picked him. I think he would have just stuck with ac without while they've been doing. I think you would've completely there. So i asked our way not over casey. Like like i guess the question of whether corey would have been the right move is like would leroy risk his game to avoid ending up as partners with johnny because he might end up having to go in and if his worst outcome is noni. Bad and lear is doing a good job of convincing me that he's really happy with nani whether or not that's just because he respects her as a friend But i also kind of disagree with this. Is i think if he ends up. Getting thrown in a specially part of it is that casey's hand he might pick cam because even the last time he had to pick casey he looked to cam and cam like shook her head and at this point where. They're pretty sure they'd be locked in as a team. I think he might have had cam. Yeah yeah i guess with and the delays and anyway but yeah. Yeah yeah. I don't know it would have been an interesting nineties. Not like disastrous partner. Scratch brian he's a great nine. He's partner path. She's a great partner preferred said she's not a disaster. Because that was true. In from your heart. I feel like the rest is like almost sabotage. What is brian. Coen prayer circle. Look like for you lighting candles. America the fun fact about me. I'm not the best leading candles. I screw up with the match. I like charlie bend the candle. The like i screwed it up. I feel like i'm gonna burn myself. I'm not going to fire so that's not. My thing died a fire in a previous life. I don't know so. I said to be breathing. Deep breathing picturing description really help. I'm over here thinking about that all we can you. Can your wife light the candles for you. Going to be a team. after we. she could do that. She's the candlelight or in the house we we discuss what tasks we all do. The candlelight hanukkah must be a real nightmare eight days of just pure. Let's all how do you let me around you. Okay with being around bigger on fire. I'm just not good at lighting. It knocked that it's not. It's not a skill like if for final four vote me and i will lose. How do you feel about like a lighter not a small one but like you know a big like parent. Parents later insulate. Your mom has that drawer that big one the trigger. I'm okay with it. I didn't like fire. I cannot fireworks. I didn't like the one you hold and the sparkler sparklers. Yeah sparkler as a kid. I always thought of fly back on my face still still learning things about you little tease of our six year anniversary back. And we're gonna. It's gonna be our seventh inning stretch. it's crazy. i think. I think the end of the challenge. All stars will take like right there. It probably should right. It's nine weeks. Aso's take us beginning of june just about all the fun djelic. Far two guys okay. Oh man i can't this be years we said let's so us so challenge. Wrap up all right. So so i love cameron. Johnny ganging up on fassi. I love fest look older just saying this because of leroy and then he doesn't anyway but i think look i think he edited fussy. No favors because there's a way to edit this episode where fetchy makes a brilliant strategic confident legendary as corey says move and then there's the way they edit in this episode. Yeah yeah. I totally agree. They could've made festive. Look much better if they wanted to because it would have been weird for him to mealy. Think this is the move. I it was smart for him to like think about it for a while. It is risky to voluntarily. Put yourself into the last limitation before final where in other situations where mocking someone to do this now in this situation and makes there is logical sense that it makes sense but it is almost a good indication for him that he cook time to like. Make sure this is what he should do. That's that that's the smart thing not jump all over. But they did a great job. The girls were the basically the cop cop girls where the backup and you know trying to like egg him on and according playing up to his ego was like the perfect combo in the do it and even casey like it was such it was so easily the right move though because again like and these credit fussy wants to win every season he comes for so someone else who's really only got their mind on like longevity and making a name for themselves and whatever would made this move more quickly like a devon. Almost i think would have made this move more quickly because it's so obviously right. Your fancy is going to be invited back. There's nothing you could do this week. That would make him. He could fail in the challenge. You could lose. Elimination the keys getting invited back. So you're not winning with amber. Your likelihood of winning with amber is very low especially with his mentality around her towards her. So i go to the nation like yourself the effort of having to be in the final. If you're not gonna win. You're not beating casey and leroy at least absolutely to win the prize out. There for central partner is his good friend. And casey they there i mean it makes so much sense for him to go forward even like we're with family they you know they have that great of a working relationship like maybe they got an old chemistry or whatever. It might not work but this is the person that would want to run it with. So you know it's setup that perfectly. I did feel bad for all of this with amber right. Because cam is strategically saying things that are hurtful towards amber and like exposing how terrible fessing kyle have been and it gets to hammer which is sort of like an isa role with the punches. I think she's used to it sadly belykh. That's how i would've reacted the way ember. Whatever the away ember reacted. Just what a flip of a switch. And i wanna go cameras. They go was being so nice. She's coming in and trying to build their back up. This is so sweet. And then the confessional like oh. I'm just doing this to make sure she votes in february the save leroy. I'm just a right here. I was like jeeze cam. Keep the games which is good for you man. That's that's rough. Say like everything. I'm saying is true. Like they do talk about the world women horribly but yeah like cam. That's the perfect. Like we say. Because rob says this like don't lie main confessionals like jeff cam is going to tell you. She is show in control and aware of her game that she can articulate what she's doing and each beat. I almost think some people who lied the confessionals are like flying to themselves. They don't really understand what they're doing and they're they don't have enough strategic awareness and self awareness and cam just like has it in spades. No absolutely it was great. It was just say. I just didn't expect that when she was going on. I just don't like how you know. The guys are talking about all the girls being which you know they totally are. But i'm just you know what i'm saying. That the builder up. I was like. Oh okay we kim. She's here in honestly like the opposite. Because then corey gives confessional look. I'm i'm high gassing up festive but like i make everyone happy. I helped my partners boyfriend. It's like corey. You get rid of fussy best case scenario who you don't wanna the final. And you know you're keeping your partner because you're sending someone in who's definitely gonna casey. Where's karl a definite. That kyle would pick casey and knock cam so corey. Not able to really articulate. And i think he believes that he says but like he should only be doing it for those reasons not to make everybody happy for the third facet of leroy's plan. Do you think he tipped off to it before they had that group. How telling cam what was going to happen. Because if he's blindsiding car in that moment with thinks eighteen kyle where they're like when he was going over the plan. that's scam. I would like take us through. I'm like that's not the way you tell me. Like how has gone down hard one to read. And i know cam in lira have been releasing sort of like recaps on youtube. I might check that one out because yet the edit obviously had us believe that that was first laid on lear on cam at that moment is it was. It had to be quick. It had to be in that moment. I'm sure my guess would be if cam if leroy told cam cam probably was like this will be your mass. You'll handle it just like she said to confessional. Because i think i think it's easy to say in hindsight that that was a bad idea but i actually don't think it was a bad idea because none of them really thought that he was going to go in and corey. Who knew the night before that. I was going go in should told him that. And then that would have resolved the whole thing. This is one of those are actually curious to see how it plays out the reunion because this is one of those half measures where they do it but once it gets out of course going to see this play out basically did the portrayal without doing the portrayal. Some very curious to see how corey takes this especially going through another season where he might do with gamma. If that comes into play because he was he was very close to blindsiding. Mp area in a very brutal way. I'm very curious to see how corey react to this. Finds out about it on the show. See we have reverse situations now from how we normally feel. I don't think oriole care at all about this. And i don't think they were actually that close to doing right like i think. The show needed the intrigue of like. It's not just going to be a straight obvious. Kyle goes in. I think it would have been more interesting. If the vote mattered. Then i really do think leroy and cam might have considered it more. But i wouldn't be surprised if this play was just an. We're going to screw kyle over like we're never doing. Yeah that's like so you just shoot. They were just like toying with kyle. Because kyle clearly thought it was going to happen. Just based on how he reacted to be voted unless he was putting on a front but i i don't think he was. I think he thought it was going to happen so i think they were just toying with with him. I think kyle. And i love kyle now the season but i think kyle's the big schmuck on this show because high. Oh has kyle is great at confessionals. He's fine he's funny. Everyone loves him. We love him. Amazing he's a good competitor. Great kyle has zero agency in this season. Kyle is constantly at the mercy of these crazy deals. That will never work just like last episode. Like kyle is always hanging by a thread. And that's a failure on cairo's part. Kyle needs to be better at building relationships. And not being expendable to his main allies. Kyle never and we said this last week like kyle did not count cam in his allies last week. He was like i am alone with amer be. Who's my partner and cd and big t alone. So when somebody who has their own self interest in mind comes over and extends a handshake and says i'll do this. What the hell does he have to lose. He's going chessy or he's going against leroy. I'll take the one in a million shot that this pans out. And i thought he really overdid it with the heartbreak at the end so much that i thought it was maybe a strategic thing one for camera to for sympathy three for potential rival season with cam and early her interesting. Yeah i wonder if this is the price kyle's how paying now for his reputation that c. T. and a bunch of other people bring up. He was in his early seasons he was like more snaky he was the one going back on the doing whatever it can and this could be the price he's paying now where no one really true views him as a number one or number two. They just don't really trust them. He still snaky right because he's still willing to make any deal possible. Sure i'll turn facetious altered on that like as long as it's not me and that doesn't really fly in the challenge. So look i normally like to watch. What's on the tv show. This i thought was just so ridiculous. I never thought it was happening. But that might be my own corey bias. Happy belated birthday to rider k. Who turned for very picture of the full full family. The birthday party is very sweet. The surprise slime birthday party under actual birthday or the under the themed birthday party a week ago. I can't tell which there was one. Where chana core wearing the shirts that said like father and mother to rider and then the other burgers. Now we're insurance. Okay okay no but so. Yeah i mean i think reasonable minds may differ on this whole situation with kyle. But i think this episode really. This is the third or fourth episode of the season. Where kyle's fate in the game hangs in the balance of some cockamamie scheme. He's he's always like. Oh so you say. I got a chance. That's his theme of the season. What are when you think of festivals. Letter in the deliberation very odd i. I don't know what producer got him to write this but kudos producer for once. Unfussy up for just a moment i mean. I don't know what they accept. They and they go you. She's right out a heartfelt letter. And i love reading shirt off the paper and he probably wrote in the paper like turned to amber amber. Like this is not about you as leroy said this is or corey said one hundred percent about amber. There was nothing lot of greek letters. An mtv history. This will not go down as one of them. I mean i think credit he handles vis one moment in a way that could be respectful or as respectful as possible to his partner. In the way we've criticized for not doing kyle not doing but in context of all of the terrible stuff. He's done and talked about his partners. It doesn't really hold much weight. Thank god they interject a great kyle confessional over the reading of this letter because i was miserable and then kyle's like fancy reads like a robot and i fell out of my chair. Yeah cows professionals would be great but he was his partner but then right in the professional helix turned it around spat on her. Like obviously amber is not stupid. She knows because he wants to leave her. So she's emotional. And then bessie goes wise. You have to make it about her. It's because it's about her. Obviously he's going to be upset. You're like doing this whole grand gesture so you can have your opportunity to leave. Leave her well. I died because this was a huge year drinking game role from last week. Right like i forget what your rule was. It's like i knew it when i saw this for us right one hundred percent. This was like why you made. Somehow you went into the future watches episode and then came back. And i don't know why you use that power to just make drinking gabriel but then it became the exact right rule on the list ahead of kyle included because this one even say he's earned their stripes like even on like a look in the mirror their buddy. Yeah why didn't also there's some slight overlap with my rural from last week which is like anytime. someone says something. You'd be embarrassed to have said like i really earn your stripes. Is there too. So kyle no pressure but pressure But all right so. I also think they think this i kind of think they were never going to put a corey in there. But i do. Think corey legitimately being a good respectful partner to cam and advocating the fetchy throw himself in and make making cam aware of that and delivery. Turn the perfect way like i wanted to protect. Your boyfriend helped his case. Yeah i totally agree a male. They were really setting up. Their core was leading on pick. It was almost like sitcoms. Like oh i know we're not going in this grey wearable safe. We're all through your worst. Save leroy safe. How gray is this. No one's gonna turn on each other. We're all so safe. it's like. Oh my god i m c gory for this. But i think how he handled it with leroy and cam korea themself a lot of favors for sure when kyle ends up getting thrown down to the crater and were you surprised that kyle out the plan like he sort of did but he didn't really. I thought chiyoda turn around and been like. Hey corey your partner and your her boyfriend told me they were gonna put you in. Yeah i know. I totally agree. Because he he started. Do you go. I feel so betrayed by ryan cam and corey must have been like for what i obviously. You're going obviously. They're not voting and be roy. So was he betrayed by the so yeah. I don't know why he didn't just all the way there again. You can spend that so easily like we were never do that. We send it to get his vote. We had allied to protect ourselves. I was never doing that and okay. They could've they could have written off but it's still probably would have been the of corey said and maybe that messes them up as a partnership or are now they're riding high while together corn cam so a little doubt and of course that impacts them also. Yeah what's the consequence where you maybe in the future in screws them but like that's nothing that's going to be revealed on the show. It would've been a fun tv moment. So kyle usually takes those moments. Or maybe he was more deflated than i'm giving him credit for But in terms of the future of the game going the final like and even if they weren't corazon on an idiot he's not trading cam because she threatened to cut him. You know i mean going to sabotage her game to screw corey over. So yeah there. She's gonna do our best to matter. What but all right. Let's talk about hall brawl. I mean i was screaming the ghost of nellie t karma is a bitch if s he goes out on the elimination that he threw himself in and screwed his friend over four and then unfortunately we're promised five rounds we get one get one barely even happens is Bessie cra truck sticks. Kyle breaks a finger or diss okay. It's a finger. He wins easily the first round. Then he trucks trucks ticks over trucks phrase truck. No no no i. just don't know it. He truck sticks him truck sticks. It's like a man term surely football term but i know madden which is hard as run over someone data and kyle takes off his helmet and i broke my finger brooklyn. I mean like. I've never heard the two words truck and stick life. Yeah i mean. I love the line records. Like let's hear lou's pads pop boys. I don't think he meant finger pads but a brutal. That's not it's rare. We can see injury so clearly this lets you one of the hardest. I've ever left. Show that i think i've ever seen in my life where he is dial is so grimacing in pain and the medic. The finger like does that hurt at. Kyle's passing offer yet but it hurts like these metrics. I don't know what they're doing like. Obviously he's in agony pain and he's pushing the fingers like does this hurt. One of them said that sucks. He bad he's into baggage. Because then tj immediately says like you're out i graciously. I'm gonna say like generously to say the too bad was like it's too bad because you're about to be eliminated like that's too bad for you. Thinking like a european thing but put the subtitle there too bad because they want you think the medic and savage folk suck and kyle who's like threatening to not have the medic look at his hand if they're going to pull him from the game you know they gave. Kyle quite a sendoff. Here they did. I mean at this point. You're better off being safe than sorry. But they allowed to car broken wrist and she was competing with a cast. I mean kyle. It puts it in if he is a sendoff. I mean you don't a finger to do hall brawl. Theoretically i dunno i shouldn't they were considering it. But the amount of pain. He seemed to be experiencing like when they were like breathe breathe. I wasn't sure if they were seeing if he was going to pass out or something. I don't know i mean it's definitely a shame to see someone go out. It's like big t when she sliced her foot like to us. Like oh you dislocate your finger. Whatever but like it seems like they reset his finger zhou which is crazy and then it still was bad yup. I probably would've quit life if i that pain. So for him to want to keep felons i love. Ct with the kristen cavalieri dunzo quo. And he's just like nope nope dunzo and again with a great symbol professional being. Tell my grandkids about this on the sale. I broke all five fingers. Funny yeah i mean this is again. Kyle going out laughing even before he's like you really did me and you got me and see again to. His credit is a great competitor staying in the zone not being phase but like ct did that. I'd be like oh that was show whatever belykh then challenge ns and kyle is just like taking it in being emotional being funny and ct is still. I mean i mean first. He says a lot of respect for you. Whatever but like. I don't know i just feel like kyle can do all of this with a laugh which is so admirable so basically the same things is not only does the person to be around and then the way he goes out like all see he gives us the. I'm sure i'll see you in the future. This is my home. i love it here. i love that. He tweeted also battered bruised and broken but one things as the same. I love my job. Airplane emoji stack of money emoji. American flag emoji. Kyle house a great great personality. Show i. i'll be very excited. Assuming he's on the next season this is on the castle. He's he'll be great in every facet of the show. You'd want the beam. Whoever that kyle so we'll see how that changes them. I'm sure we'll see in the future. Kyle and we will not forget you this time. If we do a cast preview so fast thanks casey it is. There's no suspense with leroy with two options. As he was gonna take nami and leaves a ember. Be with the. I have in my notes first of all. I love his speech rocking this girl for ten years. I watch mature and does i mean gross but like great. I haven't is an all caps in preparation. We like i mean it's it's here. I mean you visualize it. I already happening. So i can't wait to start the show next week. With the pop and the champagne this visualized is visualized that. We're attacking notice here. Noticing lee and ninety mris corny. But what's easy it was like What's up from go. Fired up then. I know but even when he was like go to our spiral yeah. Let's call it a viable. it is. Yeah let's go i'm with. I'm i was excited. I think this is the right time they just got in. I mean i think you're probably saying there. Two episodes pass this point but like they had me. it's fine. we're ready for the final now. What these this week was great. I thought last week was good too so you know what for the show to push forward. Keep it fourteen set of five. The pairings are pretty interesting. Question from to kabul tabacaru. Sorry for almost for the most. Even four pairs you can make these final people. I mean it's tough right because fussy and leroy no fancy that'd be repair fussy and casey. I feel like. I underestimate fest. Theon puzzles where are we. At with fettuccine puzzles. Casey sucks at puzzles. Not great i think i think all four guys are like fairly. Yeah the all obviously they. Some of them are better was something's and others but not advantages with any of the four. This point i think no. I didn't corey's the week. I love cory. Cory is my heart and my soul definitely regret saying that but in terms of the challenge. I think i think corey is a small step below the three so of course the weakest and him be with cam is delta. The fares. Because i think at this point is clearly the top. I agree with that. And so i think that's the fairest and if you look at his weaknesses assuming they'd able to do everything in pairs wouldn't be like one partner is gonna do one checkpoint. The other parents got to do that. Corey cannot do puzzles. And that casey like ten but corey can't and but if he's he's that's totally erased equal neutralized by cam and which goes up in the fairness calculation. Yeah i'm not. I'm not helping. No but i think it. I think it is pretty fair. I think splitting lake. If kept leroy in casey together. They've worked well so much. That splitting them up again. Okay see i guess. Probably the fairest if you wanna get the ferris if you put casey with ct just because they haven't worked together and then put amber back with fassi probably the fairest group of four. I think the other thing that is going to hurt casey. That may be equalize. It is the lack of experience they booked on a final. But they've done one and there's a lot of variants and the combined twenty plus years of experience with non ian leroy. I think helps even though casey's a quote stronger competitor the ninety. I think it's good that you know. I don't see an amber winning so dow be by far the most shocking result. But i can see our visualizing roy noni that's all i'm saying this is a good see the other three teams one. Yeah i agree with that. It's going to be. It's not a runaway and i feel like in the last few seasons maybe not in the uk versus us's but like when it's been individuals it's been more or less only a couple people can win. I think this is unfortunately we know the results already that that as you said on you're gonna win but anyone could win and you don't see any scenario where they're mixing up partners during the final right. Of course. i see a scenario where they're mixing partners finally like i think anything's possible. I think the fact that we're down to just four teams and tj made such a big deal out of like your a partnership. You're a partnership euro-partnership. I think it's i think it's the most likely setup to not but this is the challenge and expect tune expected whatever bullshit that they've ripped off from big brother but i i would say it's thirty percent chance. There is a switch or an elimination. But i think we're going to see there being active. See there be some type of rogue agents scenario in the final it. Because i don't know how they decide which of the pair they lose. But they do like the bring the themes in the flipping of the car is at some point either in the freeze its final or rather they brought that back final so they do try to sneak those things back somewhere in the final. I hope they don't they. Just keep it clean way the way you would do it is. You'd have like a male and female elimination and the winner gets to pick a new partner. Say the or something like that or one. Half of your team has to do something like can switch. Like i think you would have to. You'd have to eliminate something. I don't think it would just be a four-team reshuffling right opportunity for one person to win to switch partners. That would be how they would do. I don't know how they do that. But that that would have to be the scenario. All right let's do a little soc. Casey tweeted randomly april. Ten two thousand and twenty quarantine temp work on yourself. Okay hand moji loans from casey cam said. I've been over partnered games for the longest. I meant that when. I said i wish we all could compete. Individually makes me nervous about the final but fassi said if you threaten someone's confidence rather than inspired take a look in the mirror. You can do anything you want in this world. Just gonna believe even when they don't shed confident. Not cocky hash. Get right anyone who says i'm confident. Dot com key and disregards the opinion of millions. Pretty cocky fancy says. I'm not on the challenge to be liked among the challenge compete for a million dollars fair. We have some drama from millionaire mitchell. Of course who else and lolo. John's you see this drama this week. I didn't i didn't what have you been under a rock all right. You've been trapped under a boulder at the mall. Anyone else with story you know. How would that joke was right there for you. How do you not put that up. Because i'm doing it. How i met your mother. Re-watch independent of rob's apparent shade on rap or an app. Just trolls my life constantly. A defender of the final season. And i thought. I had to quit the podcast when i saw that so well. I'll probably watch. So that's part of why. I'm watching it. Just a quick digression change. Oh my god. We still to talk about the whole other episode nearby. We'll talk later. I forgot i'm like we're wrapping up. Jeez so basically lo said whereas some looking at us weekly article to help me out basically ashley. I can't find the tweet. So ashley said something to the effect of like in response to just what was going on with. Sorry i'm gonna try to quickly. Google it so i can but maybe i can't but basically actually tweeted something like imagine like casting entertaining people instead of professional athletes go figure in reference to likely the all-star season and lolo all the way off like mentioning all of these athletes. Who have gone on to entertainment stuff and was like no one from the challenge. Almost no one from the challenge has done anything like that. And then i became like a lot of people including ashley interjecting about all of the people who have had successful entertainment career shaming chong bananas. Gotta give them credit. He's getting a new show. Is like all of these people who have devon girls have poidevin and okay so yeah at lolo said how many challenges get picked up for anything after. They're done pretty much after the challenge. That's it done a sorry. Let me read this in order. Okay finally found it i do. Who trump stalling. Probably not ashley said so entertainers make better tv than athletes Who would have guessed. And then lo lo said tell lebron he just came out with a movie. Jj watt and tibo griffin and the countless other athletes who have tv shows after their careers. How many challenges get picked up for anything after done pretty much. A ton of challenges responded like kerama. Ms jamie chung bananas devon's so many more amazing talented humans from the challenge. Ashley said so again. Low low not making any friends on the challenge. Nope it does not seem like and then. I finally found my final project from our tv at three thirty the class. I took top. I've survivor legend maxed austin where i did an entire history of the challenge and it is the worst project i've ever done. Maybe we'll talk about it when we have more time. Let's go to the drinking. Yeah so we kyle this week as twenty slash a lot. There were twelve subtitles. And then he notes laxa awareness. One thousand literally every tiefensee talks. That's the way to get yup and for someone sleeping in bed. He wrote everyone. When tj comes into five thirty there was one partner switch. He gave a amber timing out on the puzzle. But i don't think she timed out. So i'm going to remove at one time out when you literally. I don't think we've seen it like she did time out in that. The challenges over for that would mean that literally everyone time now or i was gonna say. Yeah like then. Everyone timed out on. Like the i see why he said it. I think that's a gray area. It should have been like it should have been a time out. But they implode the horn so look anti-alcohol now others you know drink thousand times for fastest five amber bees and one mispronouncing the word i heard the sue and in fact he said fluster rating mispronounce frustrating. I heard that i was like editor l. there instead of an are due to so it can. Almost i like the i like fluctuating. I feel like it's like flustered and frustrated. That should be word. It'd be all right. What are you adding this week. I had one. And i forget so. I have to start as well. I mean this is obviously for the final right. So i'll put any possible and if someone gets limited there in the final in the visual or pair. I think i'm going to say anytime. Someone says love you and that could have been the whole season. It really stuck out to me when cams like in the cave of august. Just like they say lovey babe and very funny situations. Let's say for a pop the champagne when we rang and he went so well. Now i've already said the beep beep here. Come dis and stewart. Arlene brian because A i lost points on. Kyle gamed points for us on. Kyle getting medevac. Can you believe it again. Just the biggest loser in the history of losers. I go into the final with just ambi love to see it. We you lose points for cam in leroy so we end up with because you lose a point if they made the final so we have a combined sixteen. I'm like cam. My back hurts from carrying this team. I have twelve points on my own. Scally and matt have eight and seven for a total of quick math fifteen and we go in one point up on them into the final which is big because the fact that like leroy cam but like when leroy wins that means matt as knotty so noni would win so those will cancel each other out but i wonder how points i forget how the points work like if you lose the final. Do you get points. 'cause then then all the the they'll get rewards winnings well we all lost. Oh well making the file did they include with okay all right so the only other points nation that could obviously play a factor but other than that. It's just winning the season. Assuming everyone's going to have special which no disrespect but if there's an elimination i'm looking pretty good so have people and so you're right so in less amer but and then same story amer being. Ct split teams to. Yeah so there's no elimination in the final we. Justice has been served the champagne early known shooting. But that if we could win this annely roy that what wanted accomplishment men when we win leroy lance gas. Why already leroy winning for sure. I just don't know if there's anything to take away our way we know leroy is gonna. We don't know about our one all right. Let's argue that the challenge all-stars. Let's switch gears quickly. Yep finally come around definitely hard last week. And i think i just didn't know what to expect going in and now i kind of know a little more expect than i like. The beat beat beat a very nice in sync. Which i appreciate it. Yeah i agree. I really liked this episode. Not a lot of age at all it. The challenge was like had nothing to do with physicality so again. I look forward to seeing the next one where how that plays if it's like nobody can do it. But it was like it was honestly an impressive challenge trivia challenge and the elimination. The big challenge was the biggest troll for you in the history of the world like this was casting pass testing your knowledge of past seasons a and the fact that included the collapse of julie big always murdered after they went out last week. That was perfect. I said that scally. Because i thought it was you and i message brian but i said to scally like it's not even like which sees into this happen on or what to people. Did this happen or who did. Julie try to unclear hip but it looks like the exact information. I got wrong. But i loved it. Obviously i gotta make it about me just like be you know. The child is great. The trivia questions are a lot of fun. I almost wish they yada yada as much. I wish i wouldn't have taken much effort to include the quick question from tj Especially when you're on paramount plus an extra three minutes to the episode. Let us see some more questions by kind of like the formats. You kind of random when you would fall in some of the people like didn't fall in. I thought the questions were fun. An isa travel the challenge pedia. That was very impressive. We're for ruthie. The fact that she do so many questions but like did it know somewhat like the ones you got wrong at the number seemingly easier. That was out to. I hated the fact that it was basically wait dependent like i hate that. It made no sense to me to have a challenge. Where if you're heavier you lose sooner like i know. It didn't work out that way because like it's not like tech one. Because he was so skinny. Against maya but like so. Yeah if you know if you know your history you know your history but there is a huge advantage to being lighter. Which is bizarre absolutely. Yeah it'd be absolutely no sense. That was role. I don't know why it's like three structure out. It had have been like one strike. You're out for him. You know ten strikes africa handle like they made no sense. But i love the nonsense like this to me. This is all sars. Let it just kind nonsensical. That's fine with me. It's a fun mechanism to have them. Go through the floor like day. Always on the challenge. Mix it up like they showed you another one where it's i love. How they called it a desk or sorry. I watched the show this week. And jamie jamie jemmy called it a desk. But it's just like a chair that you through them back when devon was on but there's always a different mechanism on the challenge. I liked this one that you go through. The floor seemed definitely inexpensive. I don't know what the budget is the season but it was effective and katie smack interface. Bleeding again just show. The clip from a premium season with the multiple. Tumbles is very funny and a great teachable. Moment when i think it was. I don't remember who was asked the question but they were asking how many people are on the elimination around the island. Said one to us like how could there be one mission. Is it also be perfect. I'm going to be one person elimination. Well he's arguing about so. I teach. i think is having a lot of fun with the season with shows. And that's really great. Yeah i really. I really liked this. I liked that. Obviously some of the questions are about the. I would have had my money on like jemmy mark derek and it was surprising to me. I mean not a niece. i think that's like also someone you'd bet on in this. But kudos nehemiah for staying on the challenge. Bruce we'd comment from news like who would have thought like i haven't been on the show and ten years tech hasn't been on twenty. Who saw being in the final two like most of the people on the show haven't been on ten years so mean like what do you think you're on this is people have been done in like ten years. Why i don't know that they want a reference. Because like i think it's the same with stephen fishbach going on the challenge like i don't think they're going to be talking about derek doing the podcast that much i mean maybe if it's like handle and i really closed she has done my live show like maybe that'll come up but i think they would tend to not want to talk about it but i could be proven wrong but like i think that i agree with you. That's funny but like you'd expect somebody who's not us. I wouldn't expect action. Their some people only one person has to win. There are some people who have been on recently but point definitely point taken so we got. We got finished of word on the the lifesaver. Yes programs each week for grabs each week which is like a fun thing. I don't know if it's really ever gonna come into play. I think it's like a cool thing to think of. But i mean kind of lays it out. He's like a. I don't really want to go against the house. Save so on. So i think we are very very specific thing even be used and if it's gonna be used or going to know what's going to be used for. They're just not going to do it. So my guess is this thing never comes into play right in that it will be like we can't put in well who knows how long we only hear from this that the tender roni. It'll be loyal to beth but you know they do talk about putting in. We don't know that that wasn't a factor. I think you're right that it will be like now like can right now. Cam is safe because leroy has taper so we might as well lifesaver so we might as well not put them. In this of anything your way would have been better. I think like you just have it and then you just have her for the season but because a new one that's toss tinny i think that would have that at least opened things up for more possible is of these things being used. Yeah i also wish you can use it on the person who lost the challenge. That's how the press with the second most votes goes in. But i think we'll see at least one 'cause like i do think ally like it's always. Everyone plays nice at the beginning and even the again on the after show. They asked like how they decided rooms in nehemiah said like i wanted to room with mark because like i wasn't in an alliance with him and i wanted to get better in whatever but like he clearly says like i had alliances coming in so i think everyone's playing nice now and it's just been easy votes and eventually it will start getting divided and then maybe the lifesaver comes more into play. I wonder dove. It is because i mean it's only nine episodes right so we're only going to have three more men. Three more women get eliminated. So i don't know when it's going to get down to it. I think he's just a few probably easy votes and that it's going to be near. The end of this is really only not episodes interesting. so maybe we'll get some double eliminations. Quebec i hope they get more. It's more cutthroat on. What did you make a true sell or shells. Pasi to an isa for The rivals to incident. I love that. Because i definitely remember that and i think especially like in the climate. We're in right like kudos to. I almost wish we got more of a nieces. Perspective right we get like one confessional from an isa being like or she says to her. I'd forgive me a long time ago. But i appreciate this and her basically sort of absolving chrishell sins but this is really from shells perspective. I will give kudos to tra- shell for like showing up knowing. That's going to get replayed right like i think something i've been thinking about where and maybe we've talked about this. Maybe we haven't where all these mtv shows like. Are you the one and real world or becoming available now. A new audience in twenty twenty one and this was two thousand thirteen when she said her was absolutely non-acceptable then but like there are things that would not impact you as much if you had said them in. Twenty whatever when these shows were airing and it's like to step back into the show knowing that that's going to get played so maybe question like did she address it so that she could be the narrative story knowing that it would get aired regardless. I choose to believe like she's been feeling bad about it. Who knows why she waited this long to justice with the nissan. I think in isa's pretty accessible. But i loved this moment as somebody who remembers watching that scene. I thought it was really well handled by both women. Yeah and i think clear sign that it is not accepted. The apology was moving past. It was during elimination. She was like openly trying to help her give her advice and like root for her so that was clearly a clear. Sign that nieces regular rebuild a friendship or early be okay with and this is almost like what i think about leroy cam. Where like they had such bad season where they were if they broke up after show at or weren't really together or whatever and then they get back on the show but had they not both bid on the challenge. They wouldn't be together. Most likely and the nissan says like if only we had made up ten years ago or eight years ago we could have had some great friendship. But this was always the problem. And i think of it the same way with treselle and katie. Like if treselle one this elimination instead of lost i think tra- shell and katie mend fences. But because your show leaves the house on the snowed they still haven't spoken to shell called katie's mom and katie's husband but has not spoken to katy lot of fork in the road moment swimming how. Us them the show affiliate all all out of these relationships with could change. I you know how close katie and your shell were outside the show. That really i mean i just like i probably should. I just don't keep up with the people as much off the show when they're outside the keep kadian. I don't bug. You could ask me about people. Doubt i would really do. I'll close autumn ice cream. But i didn't realize that. Fight that fight it was katie. Was dying laughing where she was like i. We lived together. I defend you can use a thousand years ago. It's really crazy. I mean believe me. I have fights of people and be like you hear me twenty years ago but like go the enemy this dan resolved and this was four in the morning. And there's a big jump cut and suddenly katie screaming at the top. Prefer this whole. I'm sorry it's a sickness. This whole fight gave me so much life. I feel bad for both women. I'm sad for their friendship. But who did this take me back. Poor jeb. he's just standing there and she was like. Hey why don't you in shop bathroom. Sure she was like absolutely not. I'll bet stay on this. Well it's it's also true. Shell like katie. Wasn't saying anything neutra shelter shells like your trash. I mean true shell who's been called trash l. Throwing trash around is like again very reminiscent. It's like when i used to. When i was in college and i would go back and hang out at high school and high school people in jersey and to quote your mother again. It's like revert ago. Like i'd come back with short of jersey accent. It is true these people are going back and falling right back into their old shed year round the cameras. The people the environment. I'm sure it definitely brings you back in triggers a lot of your almost all the motions. Yeah i i felt bad about this but just absolutely wild and the other thing. That's funny is like. I was literally writing in my notes. Misdirected anger misdirected anxiety. And then katie says it. And i'm like shoot. I like can't sound so mature as compared to these actual adults is like when we were watching it in a regular challenge and we identify what they're doing very about they've been around the block. They're grown adults now and they know what it's like to live with the image. They've made on tv right like fasi sort of just coming into this. He's sort of new to the game. He did big brother the challenge and he's tweeting like yeah. I didn't come here to be liked. I came here to win. A million dollars haters gonna hate whatever katie's like i really want to leave this version of myself behind almost seems like she's worked hard to deal with your anger to grab it. I have kids. I have a wife. I don't see myself as person anymore. And i don't like that i'm now going back to it. And that's really interesting to see someone sort of like battling their reality tv personality. Yeah i thought it was almost leading to katy like leaving. I thought it was like this is bringing you back so i don't wanna be a part of this. I'm gonna leave. I thought that's potentially where this is going. She's sort of indicated to vote me in fighter out. But i kinda thought he would. Just you know the show. Apparently tra- shell wanting to quit according to katy on the after show and chase that fits yourselves. Mo they made up and like to appoint and katie like talk to her about staying and then apparently kitty was cheering for her and they just haven't talked since the reunion. It's bruin well if you're gonna have a draft of who was going to cause. Tj's like hope to see never line. I thought your show would have been the clear number one so that spot is now wide. Open the rest of the cast coin. I'm now i'm at a loss. I have no idea. I'm more excited now. Because if it was your shot. I would've been sad but in the elimination kendall goes in. I have no idea what happened with. Kendall she ends up not basically refusing to break through the thing and i thought the treatment should have been. If you don't go through the water tra- shells out of elimination. You automatically go in. Why was there no consequence. I mean she was deemed it. It wasn't like she got. She got questions right in the beginning in raw she just game. The system to not fall wasn't her fault if they wanna break. I would be confused to. If i was sitting in one of those things easier told me to hop. I probably would have hopped to the next spot. You know get back on the thing and go through it. Yeah was that was very odd then for that to be the reason she was voted in to feel like they're like have more deeper discussions then union fall in the water. So you're going. So i thought it was bullshit i believed at kendall's description to of it was complete. Bullshit like ruthie. Give a little hop. Roofing does low hop. She goes right through. I think they knew what they were supposed to do. And she was afraid to go through and somebody on the after show. I forget said that. Can i don't wanna smash my face. Katie did and i think she knew exactly what she was doing and she was like open. Now i'm over it. i don't have to go through. I think there should have been consequences for that from the game like from production. Like you go through. I think like sala says on the after show. I was just giving her kendall in deliberation and opportunity to own it. And i was scared i got out of it. I'm sorry whatever. And that crazy guy it's like an early reality show episodes. They're looking for any reason and she gave them reason and then for her. Pick the most beloved person and be like well. It should be the second place person who fell second like come with a better strategy kendall. They're not voting. her in. That wasn't happening. I'd be curious when we get our first open voting and like real open vote and see how some alliances my check out and get real split. Vote and actual. I hope it's not just whoever finishes less really dictates who they're going to go in against as they seeming like chrishell didn't pick by like the that's how they presented it. It's also kind of odd remark longley. He works so hard to get this show and he you would think you'd want it to be like cutthroat and he's all about like fairness and openness and person who's going and gets to pick their opponent like i would've thought he would want like more action and he's more like all right let's just keep it fair and keep it nice. I mean this is so old school reality show but certainly old school challenge. Like i'm fine with it no skull twist bullshit. It's like the equivalent of the rookies going in every time right like this is how it used to be. It's like oh let's do the quote fair thing but it's like as i said last week. No one actually cares. Kendall's good competitor. All of the women are happy to see tra- shell hopefully take her out. They don't really give us as about your shell and mark is just jockeying to win. I think mark wants to win and he thinks that would be the best season. And i mark really wants to be on the show again so i think this is honestly good strategy to go with the flow as long as it's not harmful to your game mark and beth kissing. Libertarians asked the second he walks back in. The house is like show again. All school like challenge strategy. And i think that's just what we're seeing and maybe it moves a little bit slower. But i'm confident when it starts not working for mark and isa and his on everybody else will start. Seeing people go fisticuffs. But you're right. Maybe it won't be long enough season for that to happen and the all for all stars not so fast. I mean this was a great elimination one. Basically by durrell helping kendall but kendall. Formidable opponent smokes our love. Shell going out. Don't go to the gym. Don't sip cocktails by the pool That was very old school anesthesia. When that's what you get for was spoken to today or whatever who are self. Yeah you know. We support pactel's on the house. We let's get back to that. That's my big request for next season. The challenge get some warm weather conquer and the coal all that stuff sipping cocktails by the pool. I'm into it any no questions from friday. Marxists week or you didn't like my aliens. yeah it was. I didn't want because i feel bad because it was about being bad at math. Obviously we know an excuse. So i do include it. Well you know what my brothers pissed about. And i keep saying i'm going to talk about and not that we need to make this podcast longer. But the constant repetition of the eliminations with no rhyme or reason. And he's a new viewer. But i'm really starting to think he's got a point that it's one thing if it rotates it's one thing if you can be accountable for it but like why are we arbitrarily seeing hall fifteen times. Yeah the whole now become a staple of the less limitation. I saw like the last three louis. Four last male limitations have all been hall brawl for seasons. Now that's becoming a thing like the last limitation before final is all brawl. But like i have no problem if they want to keep like the same four or five eliminations but like this you just make that known. I think i mentioned like a while ago season they had it declared like four limitations. And you can even pick it or random or there's an order. that's fine if that wants to either format for the season whatever but yeah. I make it known or just do random stuff each week. I don't know just just making more known. It does seem like there. It lets people say they're stacking the deck for certain people when there's like bringing out harbaugh five weeks in a row but all right let's get to five star reviews one time we did a podcast. We did one with only one each week now. For much of the minus. Do the math come out for. Yeah i remember. April fools joke. I don't think i read one of these people's coulda pulled up last week. You at technical difficulties for that. So let's two weeks ago. Fourteen eight minus fourteen k. Through twenty four all right. So ambers roya jacob sternberg one-two-three underscore marie and the one that indicated to me that i hadn't read it because i know i haven't said this one two three four five eight three dollars. Three dollars. side two eight two amps and one exclamation point and semi colon exclamation point. Three eight two eight. Thank you everyone for the reviews. We really appreciate them. We says morse code or something. I don't know. I'm i'm not intentionally delivering any messages but brian. I'm looking on our five star reviews. And i'm seeing that. We have eight hundred and thirty one and i'm tempted knowing we have the cushion of a couple more weeks after the finale with all-stars up to see if we can also go out with a bang like leroy and and say can we get two eight fifty nine hundred well thinking. Oh let's do you say what if and when leroy noni win. I want like dat night like for the for the foul that night to the following week league one we cover the reunion flood of your so happy. That alleys dream came into reality. I want those to be there. Who are it's our dream. This look you have to make it about yourself. You and mb always making him if you want to help realize you up dot com you have to you. Can you should go to robinsons dot com slash challenge tunes and subscribe and leave reviews. And let us know. 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Alts Take Control

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

04:06 min | 1 year ago

Alts Take Control

"They tried to call crypto show talking business influx. Jane and get everybody the show. Hope you've had a good day. What's going on in the markets. What we do see to have a bit go. The honest bid the all-swiss seeing doc before Definitely saying a much more progressive. Alt- token BITCOIN is hanging. Go hanging around it. It's not doing a great deal. It's holding its ground around that sort of Noni to ninety five region in and around that area and and going to miss you over the last few days it really. Has You know. Sparks up with spots down it's It's all over the place. It really really is alive all over the place so it doesn't look all that some shore what it wants to do and they sports have been very very quick. We saw one. Yesterday was shot up to ninety six hundred food than we shot down in the next half hour to ninety two forty. It's been very very all over the place. And that's why for me bitcoin right now. I'm not looking at any tried because because it's just a bit of a mess. We are consolidating. So that's not a bad thing I would like to see a continuous Continued consolodation Leading into a break at all just to move higher that would be more in line with what the market's doing were sitting at the moment. Carley already becomes at nine thousand. Two hundred and seventy dollars down point fought over sent and everything else is up. The theory is one hundred. Ninety dollars and twenty six cents. Diets is fan of the resistance. At one hundred ninety four thirty five region. And we're up one percents that I have nothing to major's going on the theory except pay. It's a twenty five cents point two point seven three percent NAS. It'll move it sort of tried to move higher yesterday and filed today said also require. They're on four hour has broken into the outskirts continuation yet whilst white and say bitcoin cash three hundred eighty three dollars and thirty cents up one point. Six eight percent hanging in there once again consolidating not doing a great deal of as also the Simon. It has been for a couple of weeks now. It's a two hundred ninety dollars and twenty one cents up one percent today. Lot is the area of the market that is currently down on the Diet and there is still plenty of time to guy but with Dan. Point one of the percents do due at sixty nine dollars and seventy three cents not much going on the same thing very much console console food all the twenty one cents it's basically break even on the dykes. Bon answers assignment. Eighteen thousand thirty eight cents very much flat on the day and Kadena best form out there on the field up three point the two percent right now holding in that consolidation but it is a bullish diet will start eighties a grain die so far it has put some guys on three point two percent up. We squeeze currently stand and ethereal classic also in that same boat of being positive so far on the day after having started outside the trading session yesterday court. Well did Brian. Hi pushed above twelve dollars and since then it seems to be struggling around that twelve dollar. Ma where sixty three cents up two point three six of a percent right now and to read the top time we've got trauma which is up one percent at one point nine two since there is some consolidation there It's really trying hard to break. Right twenty sorry two cents We'll have to wait and see how that is currently working up into resistance level. I am keeping very close on the safe. There is a trading opportunity that we'll have to wait and say guys across the board. There is not a lot going on. It's really where the ALZ make bitcoin that we say. More activity and others will be focusing attention for the day take it easy quick show this morning because Norwalk during I'll say again very very soon bye for now.

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MTV The Challenge: Total Madness Reunion Season 35 Ep. 17

Spill it, Sister! Reality TV recaps with Ally

1:14:18 hr | 9 months ago

MTV The Challenge: Total Madness Reunion Season 35 Ep. 17

"Hey It's Allie and I'm Leah. And we're sisters who love watching the challenge together and this is the girlfriends guide to the challenge. Welcome to spill it sister. Hey Hey everyone. Welcome back to still sister podcast. You're here with Alli. And Leah Welcome to the final challenge episode of Season Thirty Five. I feel like it was so quick and you hadn't so long knowing Gosh we've been talking about the challenge for quite a while now and when I look back at who always on the season. I'M A oh. Damn. I forgot about half these people and half the stuff that happened like the funniest moments that I forgot about. Ya, I mean. It was overall a good season just kind of weird with like quarantine, and then the fact that they had them in a bunker like it was just a weird. Vibe all season long and then with the lives matter movement and how they ended up having to cut d. out of everything like. Just, a bunch of weird shit this season yet this was I would say most tainted season, maybe not a good way to put in cursed by. Those. Ed. And he's a southern gentleman. But he cursed it. Yeah. So we got a two part reunion. That's why we didn't do an episode last week. 'cause we wanted to just lump it all together and We started off with like a more traditional reunion as far as going over the drama in discussing and Hashing Al what happened on the season and then we went to. A behind the scenes and you know scenes that we didn't see that were cut out of the episode. I would prefer we just get that every season. Yeah like the. Things that we miss basically right like the shit they should have shown I want yeah. At the first part of. The. Reunion. Whatever you WANNA call it virtual zoom conference that we were on that featuring conference call with CT did not want to be there for. More than Noni though I don't know man I, don't know when to be there less than Noni. They were in a tie for who hates this more I was sitting there thinking I don't know how we're going to recap this. This is GonNa be crazy to talk about you can't fill the tension on the stage. And the reunions are normally pointless anyways. It's just a bunch of like who can be the bigger. And who can make the biggest show of themselves? Yeah and so for this I was like, okay whatever nothing really. But then they came in with part two. Yeah and I'm live for that. I agree I. DO think there's still more that we didn't see that wish we would've seen and still have some unanswered questions, but we'll get to that. Yes we will. Okay. So getting into a well before we get into the episode, we do want to announce that at the end of this episode, we will be discussing. Season thirty six. Spoilers I guess like who is going to be on the season from what we've heard and then some other insider info regarding season thirty six. So if you would like to hear about all of that stuff, the, you'll have to go in subscribe to our Patriotic Channel, which is patriots dot com slash spilt sister podcast. We have three different tiers starting at three dollars I believe where you can start getting. That that behind the scenes info. So highly recommend we're going to be releasing bonus content on. Patriot as well, but we aren't releasing some extended episodes on patriotic. Yes. If you guys listen to love after lockup, you'll get all of our extended episodes there which if you're not watching what after lockup you need to and then go listen to our podcast because it's a good time and we have a whole. Just like bucket of that, we have to go through this week on Patriot for lead actor lockup, and we'll probably discuss big brother there as well. Not Weekly but we'll do like bonus episodes of Big Brother and lime watches and all of that good stuff. A we also talked about getting the all access to see the live feed for big brother. What is it CBS? CBS All access. Okay. So they also announced today that season's eleven through thirty. One of the challenge will be on CBS access and it's five ninety nine for commercials or nine zero commercials. Yes. I saw that too I see Oh vestment in our future yes. There is a possibility no promises we'll have to talk about it. But there is a possibility that we could recap duke bonus episodes of old seasons. We've talked about this before at the challenge. Just really away to watch. Ya. So definitely go onto patriots, dot com slash village sister podcasts, and hit the subscribe button. This also just helps support us We do this for fun. We don't make a living off of this, but it just helps support our and podcasting habit and may be justified all the time we spend on it to happen I don't know. Look guys. We're trying to get Leah to stay at home for when she becomes the MOM. So we really need you guys. You're a mom slash professional podcast or I would love that to be my job title. All. Right. So let's get into part one of the reunion. So right off the top I just went to highlight. We're missing I made a list. But tell me if I if I missed anyone on my missing list. So we missed bear obviously de Mattie Gen ace off Jordan and Rogin. Yes Demented anyone. I that threat I went through the cast photo and you had to do it off of that. So I think I got everyone but some of them. I'm a little confused some of them make total sense So. I don't know they all make total sense to me. Okay So who are you confused by? I was a little confused by like Maddie. Okay. You are. That's true. I take that back that one I didn't understand which I mean kicking myself that we didn't ask her that on our interview. We should've asked her about that. I know I knew I knew that she wasn't going to be on. And well, I had heard through the grapevine that she was going to be on and like I wanted to ask her but then I also kind of felt bad because I didn't know. It had to do object right and so I went to like put her until it. Awkward Sabi Yes Okay just because there were some of those old tweets floating around out there then Kinda resurface when the whole black lives matter topic came up. So that's why maybe I don't know I think all of them were related to black lives matter besides like a soften Jan were just the first ones out and nobody really knew they were anyways did bear bear I was a little confused on did bear have some controversy? I think his controversy was the arrest. The domestic dispute Yes yes. Yes. Yes. Of course. Yeah. Okay. So all involved in some form of controversy or you know. What. Not Although Rogan did say he he had surgery and he was recovering from surgery that day And that's why he wasn't on but he also came out this week. It made a public apology for pass tweets. So it's kind of a coin on on what the real reason I think it's because he was so connected to d. I. Agree. Okay. Cool. So we. Everyone else though and we start off with like a finale recap in the show clips of the finale. I. Just you can just feel the tension between Swaggie and Bailey that he's like pissed that she left in the. Big even go on to talk about it later on in the episode and I'm just like excuse me. Swaggie, you didn't even make it to the final. So you have no right to be pissy with her or quitting the final, but she doesn't have a torn MC l.. Not She sprained. I'm sorry I'm not I. I'm the last person to laugh at someone for something like this but. It's funny because on the episode she's like I tore my MC L. A. Torme EMC Alex. she was so sure and then she's like, yeah, framed it. You did not want to stand out there that cold asked blizzard. Yeah. With sopping wet socks, I wouldn't do it either. Bailey. But I would've at least set like hell no I need a hot bath and I need a bed I'm not doing this I need a glass of wine. Yeah, we're not doing this anymore. It was so like to see how. Jenny is just she's gotta get her self-confidence up a little bit. I'm not a champion I need to win more Hollandaise I'm like. You WanNa challenge like what and I did like bananas was supportive of her in that moment he's like. I mean so you're Vernon. You're NFL like champion linebacker because you want a super bowl don't you think you're a champion and he's like guy do so anyways. Little supportive side. I'd Bitch. I mean after watching part to I don't know maybe we're wrong or not wrong where I'll then per cent. Wrong. No, like an Isa is more Ginny style bananas. I mean, maybe they both are like I don't know. Yeah. A and I just WANNA. Say like a couple of comments to before we move forward on people's backgrounds and like their video quality and things like that. I just thought it was interesting to see like obviously the producers just gave him free rein to late. Yeah. They did you wherever you are have whatever audio quality be in the middle of your sucking echoing kitchen. And I do WanNa say I do respect bananas for his setup his. He had a good background with a color scheme going on i. mean you gotTa give him props I know like what? What Mike Are you using? He had a legit setup shot with all stretched out my Gosh I. It was killing me that killed me and then Josh Casey that were in that loudest fuck echo route early built of made of tile room echoing material that you could find wide open. There is nothing to bounce the sound office of walking in the background I, mean just we're not on live television right now or anything just walk in the background crawl in the background it's fine. Then the last one that really tipped me over the edge. Was Corey and do you know why he was in the UNMADE bedroom what you have make? Taylor you. Not, go in there and make the fucking Ben and I'm not saying that because it's like, oh, she's a woman that's her job that like. You get like sometimes guys just don't think about those things right Wouldn't you? Just like you know? Well, let me go do a once over of our bedroom before everybody's bucking season millions of viewers national television like. Why are these people thinking? It killed me the whole time in part to bed still not May. Beckoned the second time I was just hoping at a commercial break maybe like filming break he decided that he was gonna make the Ben puts them throw pillows on their something. Nothing of the sort. Also, we get a little discussion about Melissa and how she was pregnant during the final and you literally said during our episode. As she was walking that now she's to connect the dots and that's exactly what happened. She's like was just trudging up this town doing the math like I just thought that was so funny that you call that I do it because I put myself in that position. And at that point of where she was at her pregnancy, she was what like four months? You feel it. New. I mean I always knew early on when I was pregnant but by four months like your body is just stretching us feel different and so that's soreness her completely differently I'm telling you and that's when she was getting winded. She's like hold on. I just I could put myself in her position. That freak out would have killed me too I. I have to right now right now to leave. Dollars you saw the panic in her eyes, and then she says that when her in Bailey got back to Prague back to the bunker, they're both like showering cleaning off whatever getting ready for bed and she like Kinda confided in Bailey and she's like bitch I might be pregnant. Yeah. I think they went to a hotel room because what she leaned you go check into a hotel. ooh I shower in that first night's sleep in a cozy hotel bed. ooh, that's the best. Yeah. Did you make somebody go get you a pregnancy test or did you go get one? She had to have she would not usually producers go get her one. There's no way. I, could wait until I got. Back to my home country. Check in with a provider no we would be going to the CVS or whatever equivalent they have in. Prague. Pitch we gotta go now. Yeah. Right now if I need to go knock on doors in, get someone to give me their spare pregnancy tests, I'll do it. So speaking of Melissa we get a little bit more insight into the Kyle and Melissa of it all and. We always thought there was some chemistry between them and we had heard certain rumors and tips that made us believe that they those two were probably hooking up in the house and I would say we got confirmation. Yeah. They still were yeah I don't care if she says it was just a case or their flirty friends. If you're in that environment. For that long. And I'm just going to go out and throw this out here which it's going to be a little bit a. t. m. i.. and. Your pregnant in your first trimester like that where she was. She was getting the from. Well maybe that's why I'm sorry part two spoiler she was making out with everyone. Yeah. It was and Yanni. Those hormones come over you and you're just like, Oh my God I just need sex right now. Yeah. That's probably what was happening. I, loved this moment where so we see all the clips of Melissa and Kyle and Vernon don't you have a girlfriend like? Kyle like what is she pink about this and he's like just a friend all good whatever and then Vernon's will bananas like you have a girlfriend to like. Yeah. I would Morgan feel if she was to see something like this this is this right. Here is my proof of all proof that he and Jenny were hooking up because he panicked he did paint it. He thought in that moment and you could see even in his face whenever they were showing clips of people hooking up people cheating. He was like panicking like he was he was just ready for them to start showing a clip him with Morgan. He's like these producers are GonNa fuck me over I just know it I just know it. They're going to breach the contract like. And then, of course, it didn't happen. They're not going on tracks him with Ginny which any I don't know what I said, but yeah. Yeah. So I just the fact that he stumbled over his words so much and even like who was it corey is like Damn I've never seen bananas get. So tongue tie. Why are you? So tongue-tied bananas? Threw Oh, she would be fine. It's the environment and. You just don't know unless you've been there in is like Oh hell no my ass would-be untroubled. One realistic like no I would not be pulling that shit. So it does make me wonder if they have an open relationship while he films. It wouldn't surprise me. I couldn't do it gross gross gross gross the next hot couple Casey in nominee. This is where we start to see NONI looking. I she's on something that he eft up. I duNno, she's drunk. She took a valium. What happened she was very glaze over she. Mentioned later on that, she had been up since four am. But that wasn't like tired is Rhino. That was like I'm on another planet is lake. She was not with us. But in part to she didn't look like that. No, she was she was with impart to. One hundred percent. It was it was very. Disturbing to see her like honestly it was weird. So Casey, still dying on the hill of nothing happened between her and non, and even though Vernon shows the clip of Casey saying that she kissed on Casey is still saying I did not kiss Noni so. That's that she going to stick to her guns I guess and Vernon straight up like noni why do you look so pissed like? And it's crazy because. noni gets angry about the weirdest thing in this moment, she gets mad that a niece went up to Casey. Before going to her even though she was blackout drunk at the time and she really didn't have anything to lose like Casey did right and also they had already squashed all this beef because the next morning they had a whole conversation about how everything went down the night before. So it just didn't make any sense to me why Noni was mad all of a sudden. That baffled me as well. It was like she was deflecting because she uses the excuse like. I saw some things that we clearly didn't talk about or you weren't my friend like I thought you were And for her to say that and have been on the challenge for so many seasons, right? Well, you know how production works. You know how editing works you're there. You don't remember what happened. Does, it mean, it didn't happen. Right? You still did it like don't get. Drunk. I don't I didn't think an ISA was in the wrong for going to Casey because Casey did seem like the more sober person at that time she was an Casey has a freaking girlfriend ninety didn't have a boyfriend or girlfriend at the time. So like Casey is the one who has something to lose I'm going to go to Casey and be like, Hey, and also non knows what the fuck she's doing like you said with reality TV. Yeah this is only her second show. And she was on big brother, which is a completely different animal than the challenge. So she's like I'm just trying to warn you. You don't know what you're experiencing right now. You haven't been on the challenge before like this shit's GonNa, come back and bite you in the ass if you don't lock it up. Yeah. Because a niece a new As soon as she saw that happening, this is going to be a story line I know it's going to be a storyline. Yeah. Nip in the bud and sure enough it was. Fine she was I. think she had the best of intentions I. Think she handled it the best way she tried it was. Very annoying and I think that. So you and I like just having these light bulb moments right now because. You and I were texting about why was ninety so upset like why wish we acting weird? Baba you had a theory that she was mad at the whole. Situation of Jenin Zach like ethically Zach was there that she still harbors a lot of resentment towards Gina over Zach and all of that stuff. Yes. Because if you notice Because I think we were watching at the same time together I don't remember we were texting as we are watching I. Don't know if you. Ever watched it the recording together. We watched it the next day both at the same time. anyways. Yeah Non at UC like start to get a little heightened each time she more and more angry, and then she rips off her earplug. Comes back for a little bit and then she's like, okay, am I done I done now because I've been up since four o'clock in the morning and she walks off whether this is how it was filmed or not I don't know but when she leaves Then we see Jack Zach and Jenna will and I think because the first time she stormed off was right after Jenna put in her to send of what was going on between Anita and Nani because Vernon. Asked her specifically hey, what do you think Jenna and that is when she got pissed off and she makes the comment later on an episode I'm tired of defending people because nobody defends me yes, and so I think that she didn't want to have to see that I think that she didn't want to have to listen to their bullshit spill of always going to therapy and we're so much her. As he like looks off into the distance and doesn't even acknowledge her when she talks. Exactly as they. I don't think she wanted to relive. The moment of Zach. Talking Down General on facetime yeah. That we get to see I, don't think Johnny could handle that because she's so over she's been. In this mass sense, they've been in a relationship. Yeah, and she feels like she's done everything she can for her friend Donna and she's been there for her time and time again no matter how much she doesn't listen to her advice like she is just trying to be a good friend to Jenna and Jenna. Is has this opportunity in this Anita noni situation to have her back the same way Noni has hers and she doesn't do it she. Kind of lands issues in the middle and like Connotation Isa's side and connotates Noni side and so that probably was just icing on the cake like. Like. She never has my back like why am I have been friends with her? Yeah. So. Yeah. That was I. think that was a very astute observation. Now get always coming through with the theories it. Sometimes, they're a little out there but sometimes I'm with Ya a sometimes they they make sense. Aright so then we get a flashback to the Daily Mail meltdown which you know we just we love a good Bailey meltdown. Let's be real. I do and I'm excited to see them brother Yep. Everyone's coming back to big brother. It's basically going to be like another version of the challenge on big brother Guys August fifth. So like if you're planning on watching it, they pushed it back. No really. To Win I WANNA say the twenty second but don't quote me on that look like. Okay, which makes me think. It makes me think that somebody's chest was positive was positive and they have to get Saban that I mean that's just my theory who knows if it's right in the is but you know they should. They should just let everyone else in the house and then let that person quarantine until they get negative tests and then have them be a surprise late entry they've done that before I don't know but it did get pushed back I really feel like it's the twentysomething. So we're GONNA have to wait a couple more weeks baroque my heart's I'm sorry I thought you already. Know anyways, you should watch big brother because Bailey will be on Josh will be on Casey will be on. Thank, that's it from this season will in Paulo and polly yeah in barely divine. Von. Weight and I know this is a quick little sidebar when people who I guess because they started on big brother, it won't be the same thing but because they're going to challenge now we're going back to big brother. Are we going to get the same type of fight like you? You stupid challenge motherfucker like we got with? Big, brother Possibly I don't think we've ever had. We've never had an all-star season. Okay. With big with people who've been on the challenge is I mean This is only our second or third all-star season ever out of twenty two whole seasons of big brother. So we never really had a lot of all star season. So I it's kind of a new thing to have big brother people go on the challenge. So I think that's a good call the because I mean it would be smart of them to make an alliance together. But it's Kinda hard because then that puts a target on your back like if I was in other house I'd be like we're getting all these challenged motherfuckers out of the out of this house even though they started on big brother like it's so crazy. I'm just so interested to see if anybody in this isn't the challenge like when they go on the challenge, it's big brother. I don't think so because I think the challenge has a good enough reputation of like the challenges probably harder than big brother. I. Don't know. I mean, mentally I don't know because it's basically like you're in a bunker. Let's be real right Not, do well with that. They did not do that. So yes. We get the Bailey meltdown and we get a little bit more background into what happened and we actually learned that Casey. was really already planning to go against Bailey because she had heard that Bailey through her under the bus during the tribunal conversation right and that Casey had tried to go up and talk to billy about it when she went into her room when she had her bonnet on and she was no pissed Bailey was so pesticides for like and didn't WanNa talk to her I. Guess That's when Casey claimed. She was going to go talk to her about it. Uc Bailey spent her wheels here like she was trying to stay afloat because she knew she was fucked up in that moment Yeah she knew she was caught red-handed. She's like Oh like You should have talked to me and she's like I try to talk to you know you didn't. Know Literally I did. So. Yeah. In Casey is just so called. Who'll collected every single time? She's all like that. She never gets rattled you always. You want to believe her because Bailey escalate. you wonder is she being defensive because she's guilty? Exactly, that's the thing is like if Bailey could just learn how to like real in those emotions just a little believe me I know how hard it is legal guilty we all do it but like it really gives you the upper hand if you can have like calm about it. So Yuccas at bucks with people's minds wait do I believe because why is Casey not even batting an is she doesn't even care she's so unfazed by this. Is. Just all. Up in arms. Yeah. Exactly. So we also get some fun background information about how the whole Western bananas duo came to be. I guess really did not know. I mean. I was convinced that like Tori didn't know like she didn't seem like she had any clue that they were working together right and so they basically tell us which we are. We have already heard all season long. We decided we were sick of everybody else winning because of our rivalry. Yes we decided like we'll just band together and get all these week motherfuckers out. Yeah. But everybody on the zoo was like we had no idea I'm so shocked. So I guess. Like I knew I Would make sense because she's been partners with both of them before in past seasons. Yeah. She's so yes and. Like an og to well what I loved though is like the story of the fact that they were on their way to the VM as yeah drinking Tequila together and then you see like the pictures of them taking pictures on the red carpet at the via as like pretending like they hate each other it was just so funny I, was like I just to be a fly on the wall of that you know in the back of the limousine hanging out with. Bananas in West Drink it's Akilah while they decide to work together they had. They had all these light bulb moments like wait a minute. All these people would because we were trying to get each other out and then they got us out. It's like after all these seasons, you guys just figure this out you know. Yeah. That's what Tequila does to you. Though I'm telling you I've had some revelations. Recently to when drinking Tequila, remember we went to the beach and the revelation that I had about one of my friends from high school. Yes. Yes. When I was drinking Tequila, I'm telling. It it gives you some some crazy powers does. So then we move on to just kind of like recapping the different meltdowns that have happened and we see the Melissa Meltdown and this was so funny because. Like, her impression of Josh is like one of my favorite Yemen on the challenge effort. I. Love it I like we just Idaho Gif of this whole moment it will go down as my favorite moment so far in all the seasons I've watched in her dislike on her tippy toes yelling at him on. Like being on the table, she's not tall enough she needs to stand on her to be towed. Nellie. It was so funny and she's like literally I was just crazy and hormonal like I'm sorry I shouldn't have done that. Pregnancy hormones. What are you GONNA say And then we get to the Ashley and. Bananas Drama. And it was just really nothing basically just kind of respect each other for being snaky and they're both fronts. That situation to me. Seems like a rival setup. I like it. We don't really hate each other, but we're GONNA pretend like we hate each other because if we were ever to be on a rivals season together, we would win. I like that. I like that I would like to see an Ashley Versus Banana Bananas Rivalry and they've both stolen money from their partners. If you paired them up what's going to happen I love it. That would be fabulous because you can't pair them with West. Now they're friends. Right. So then we rehab via Swaggie. Josh drama. My like probably second favorite moment. Why are you next to me? Why are you next to me? Why are you doing is? Such children. Love and he says like if you are dissing each other about who's better at puzzles like come on, right Was So funny and we get a little bit more information about Al 'cause Josh made it seem as though he had no idea he was so blindsided that Swaggie Bailey were working with west and come to find out Bailey's like no we literally talked specifically to you about the fact that we would be working with West but we would never be coming after you and west is like, Yeah Dude, like we had all decided we were never gonna come after you like there was no reason for you to freak out the is like a you know I really love my family. Don't disrespect me. Yeah and then West calls him out for looking at his instagram stories. He's like maybe if he would just like stopping. So obsessed with me and stop Sarah My instagram stories because I just saw that he looked at it like five seconds ago in Josh, awkwardly puts his boat down and flips it over guilty as charged. Even say anything because it'll just get twisted around and West. It's like come on. I feel like West is kind of like with the bananas thing to like that was his personalized pick on and Banter on as fun anymore to like have that person. Bananas. Kim match him with his like wittiness comebacks and his intellectual abilities. Yes. Josh I love Josh. Don't don't give me your on. Their. level. Gosh that was so funny I feel like West could throw in just a few big words in a sentence and Josh we buy into whatever West was saying I think that future seasons will see them try to work together or Josh we'll try to work to him. He's just so smart. I'm just GONNA duty says. Josh. So then we get a little bit of time with we J. I love him I hope he comes back we. Just have C. T. again. Being pissed in all I could look at what's his blinking microwave in the background and like set you're just at the time C. T.. A. So. There was an issue where. I can't remember what? Elimination. It was. But. They were asked about it was asking C. T. a question. And then he goes to ask. Maybe Bananas are somebody else a follow up question. Throws himself back on the couch and he's like I. Mean I was there too and Vardi was like, what did you say? He's like nothing I wasn't that twenty seven because I rewound it three times and I had the capsule the closed captioning because I needed to know what he was saying. He was getting the love from burning that he wanted he wanted attention, but he actually didn't want attention. He actually didn't WANNA. Be there that whole stick though it's like a really wouldn't be here too cool for this but like also I do really want to be here when he's always like that on reunions because they were replaying one on TV the other day when he was there with Diem and they were not in a relationship D. kind of gotten onto him because. He was not choosing her didn't ask her the day just had a bunch of issues that season. and CT comes out to the reunion and he's like, okay like what kind of questions are you gonNa ask me like get to the point I mean he was a pick. And what it reminded me of. What's going on here? Yeah. CT cracks me up but yeah and then we see the whole J. Rogan thing how rogin just like tried to murder Jay and I got angry all over again. Jay says that he doesn't remember anything after like Rogan threw him on the ground at he. Just. Remembers when they were like flashing the lights in his face. So good job with those medics for like telling him that he couldn't go on because I was like, let it go on. Line. So. That's that's good. That's why I'm not in any kind of anything in the medical field. Exactly. All right. So then we Recap the bear and Kayla lovey-dovey NECE I. US been. And he burned Ooh, he just called Kayla out because she's like you're in the house and you're just bored you get so bored and he's like, oh so like being bored is a good reason to chee and she's like one Whoa Whoa okay. Bernie was getting a lot of Shit on twitter lie. That he was not a good host. I thought he did well, I thought he has all the hard questions. I think he did a great job especially for doing it via Zoom Lake. That must have been just a whole other level of awkwardness and weirdness and trying to like manage what who's talking and who to ask what and WHO's on the call, and WHO's not on the call. I mean I think he did a great job. My favorite host forever will always be a what's her name Red Hair Valentine. I love her I think she's fabulous. I think she's Hilarious I don't like her really I can't see her why It's just something about her that I. I. Don't know like I. Don't know what as I just don't like her I can't I I feel the opposite I like late one night I was like on instagram and she was doing some live at some like snowboarding event or something, and she was doing like rapping like random like free styling and then she would like dance and she's just like she's just like an entertainer. Funny. Her last season on the reunion. Disagree. Yeah. So she says. You know. That they did not hook up in the port a potty that that's disgusting and Nelson's like listen I. Shouldn't. But I wasn't the only one saying it. Okay. I didn't just pull that out of my ass everyone was saying that y'all had gone and hooked up the PORTA potty. Okay. So you can't get mad at me. So do we believe it or do we not believe it? I believe it I believe that too I do. Maybe not in the PORTA potty but like next to. That word Potty at Jason. You keep each other. Warm. So. Then This is when we see Noni. Lee, for good after this whole conversation and it just so happened to be right at the same time that Zach popped up on the screen. The biggest. Band. Child. Ever. Like do even have to talk about him and them like I. Don't WanNa. See them on my TV screen ever again he's a little bitch baby. He couldn't on in watch what he did he had to plug his little baby ears was going to ask, was he plugging his ear? It's I. I watched it twice. He s looking his ears it was disgusting to watch I can't I can't I just can't with them i. don't earn anything. They just they. They just pissed me off. Apparently, he wants to start a podcast which he's always bashed podcast. He's always like I will never go on a podcast for some like snaky host to try to. Trap me into questions I don't want to answer which I'm like. Talking about. because. I don't know how fast do we've never reached out to Zach just listen the nor will we ever Luria nor will we ever? For any of our guests you come on our show, we ask them or anything that you legally cannot talk about or don't feel comfortable talking about because right isn't a twenty one question. Let's make you feel uncomfortable back you into a corner, get you in trouble with your producers type situation Oh and any good podcast or knows that that's not how you do it because you didn't get a bad reputation and then Maye will come on your show anymore so like Let's just stupid. So maybe he's upset because nobody ever asked him on their show I'm really not sure the only person that I can think that would have asked Probably Challenge Mania And the other dudes? That and they they were on the challenge. So what the fuck are they going to ask you to get you in trouble with like they know the INS and outs of it will maybe don't do shit that you're GONNA get in trouble for is. Right. So the also Jenner came out and said, they probably will not do anymore seasons because after the wedding they WANNA to get started having babies because they want six kids. Clap Clap Yay everybody round of applause go have kids fix to another country great harm hair go away get off my television screen I don't give a shit what you do with your life. Go the fuck away. It's also unhealthy. It's I. AM healthy relationship. It's sickening it makes me WANNA throw up. I, hate to see. I just hate to see it and you guys already know my opinion on it. So I'm not going to get into it. Okay. Let's move on to part two. We did get some juicy clips of just a bunch of make outs. We got our haunted nece. We got panic attacks. We got to see a few different interesting clips, but we started off with just a little bit more detail on what the bunker life was like which if you're still it sister listener, you already know these did because we know what the fuck we're doing. Okay. And Mattie. told us a lot of this shit. Our S Mattie gave us a scoop when she came on our podcast, we learned about the walk to the porta-pottys the fact that it was super cold all the time. So you had to do this freezing ass walk to the to go as being aboard a body. So of course, everyone's like peeing in the shower you which like. Fine where your shower shoes and like whoever it was said Melissa P Down the Drain Okay Go pee on the wall Nelson Animal. Anibal. Seriously, I was shocked to to find out that it took them thirty minutes to open the door to the bunker. That was funny. He couldn't figure out. If that wasn't like the perfect prelude to like what this season was going to be like Oh my God. You heard around never mind. We'll just do a different season cancel at all that should have been shona. Why would they not show us that? That's hilarious because remember how hype that burst episode was and they had a great intro song. Your. I'll never forget that song I wanted to be our theme song yes. T looks like such a bad ass us they're like going and going. To The music just stops they play clown music and they're all trying to open the door. And their. Fifteen minutes later, what he minutes later thirty minutes later they all erupt into screams like, yeah, we did it. Of course, it would start with Rogan. Thank God. This I'm really good at puzzles. I got on the puzzle master puzzle. There's no puzzle off the door. So I use like actually I, own a door making companies like I. Can I am really good at doors and like adore expert so I got this. And then Anita engineers quietly whispering in the background exactly how to open the door but nobody wants to listen to them because they're women exactly. It's hard to be a challenge, but there's nothing harder than be woman challenger but. I said it and there's nothing harder than being a pregnant woman challenger. Melissa that's wild. Gosh. Yeah. That was really funny. I wish we would have seen like the full thirty minutes like I would watch the full thirty minutes of that I feed we need Livesey we needed live feeds. So we also find out that supposedly the bunker was haunted. Funny that it's only like. Three I think it's only like Tori Melissa and Bailey that actually talk about this. So you know everyone also probably like the hell up, it's not but these three were convinced that they heard a ghost saw ghost. Or who was a big teed named the Ghost Ed. Yeah because they use the OH. Gee Board which was so obvious like bear was just pushing it. But It was just funny and I mean Bailey was legit freaked out like I saw like black shadow and like Melissa says she heard voices right so I would not be messing with if I was them the way that swaggie looks at Bailey when she's speaking compared to the way that Bailey, looks at Swaggie. When he speaking It's upsetting. Very. Different. It's like he doesn't. Respect. Or her opinions or value what she has to say I'm sorry that's what his faces saying like maybe. But whatever he's just as face we face just looks like disrespectful notice I don't know. I'm going to go on a limb here and say I don't know anything about them. This is just from my like armchair psychology. I'm going to go on a limb here and say he's type of person that wants to be loved more than he loves. Yeah I. could see that. And Is doing it so right. For. Each other I guess it just became very apparent especially in the second park while he so obsessed with himself, it makes a lot of sense. Let me just like do fly Math problems. Right here on. Practice to head of time. Yeah. You ship written on his hand that's why he kept looking like. Well, if this was to come up, you know I I just don't see how people don't have basic now. I. Know that Shit I know what? What her in seventy times divided by twenty. Years so smart you knew that math God bark. then. We get the kind of insight into some of just like panicking that happened we saw corey which I didn't really know that like Corey struggled with anxiety and having panic attacks and but apparently he does well I don't think he did until this challenge is what he was saying I don't. Feel like this but now, and that's the one thing that I wish they would have focused on. For this just this season Was the mental aspect of it? Yeah. y'All like. This is getting into their head and they kind of touched on it, but they didn't really show it. Because? Then we would've seen corey have a panic attack we saw Bailey, and this is what such bullshit. Yes, it's into the stigma of what we've been talking about all season long. We See Bailey have a panic attack. Why? Because on TV it is okay for a woman to have a panic attack because apparently that's just our nor just. Panic tax. We don't normalize men having panic attacks and it's I mean, and then men are just holding their panic inside because they think it's not normal for them to have a petty back and it it is. It's fine like get through it. We're not and you know but if you just hold it inside, it's just going to build up when there's a built a stigma of win a man does speak out about anxiety or depression or panic attacks that there's something wrong with his masculinity because TV has normalized it for women but we haven't in yeah. I. Did I mean I liked the I mean Cory acknowledged what it? Like just being in this house is like getting to me like I really liked to see that he was just owning it and he's like sorry man I'm just you know who's just working out to hurry what we'll do hard on the treadmill or whatever. Like he? You just owned up to what was happening like Oh, Shit I'm having a panic attack. This is crazy. Yeah I just think this is A spot where MTV can grow yes and very we can focus like they're done. So great with really showcasing and giving representation to like LGBT Q. Plus community that like now, let's get more into mental health and show that it's okay to have these issues when you're in a bunker locked inside with no sunshine for weeks. Yeah exactly. I don't know why they wouldn't have shown him having that freak out. So anyways they showed. US, eventually. So we'll take what we can get. We got some tips on how to survive the challenge Housman. They talk about one of the most stressful parts being like picking your bunk and light claiming your area and but I have my process. I, claim a table I claim hangers claimed the closet. I make sure my bet is close about like he has his like process of exactly. You know he's done it so many times that he knows exactly what to do. And I could imagine that this would be a very stressful part. I'm unless you don't know what you're doing. You know it's your first season. You just go in there like, okay. I'll just wherever like what bad is open Yeah, and they're like, you know you pick one close to the bathrooms and Doesn't matter this season because everyone's got a five minute walk to the bathroom and he was he said that he likes the bottom bunk and I wonder why? maybe maybe they're bigger and he can be in there with Tom. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. That's my theory on it is ours. So then we get to see Melissa's horny pregnancy hormones and we see her. Like. Giving massages to Josh Josh giving her massages them cuddling. She says, they just had a dog and a cuddle which it just makes all. It she like did that impression of him and screamed at him when she started screaming at him, he had just said I thought we were cool and she said Yeah Bitch even know you. Last week they were giving each other massages snogging. So. Funny. This is what I'm saying like hello, we need the background that would be the season so much better. It. So funny and then she says they he was a negative to kiss. I don't WanNa be mean. Even negative to like what did you really WanNa? I knew they asked her I think it. He such a sloppy kisser. I mean, he just seems like. Oh he would be all over your face like, oh No he would definitely like cry afterwards. I. Good. Guys the content we should have had all season I'm crying over. Good. With that like I'm laughing crying not has. For Josh. No no one will ever be as emotional is Josh is. We love that for him normalize men being emotional. Okay. We love it. It's just funny Okay. So then we see all the other Horny as going on in the House and apparently there was this like women's make out. Happened and like a niece was making out with Jenny while Noni was making out with. Who Melissa Melissa next to them like literally in Casey's just watching it all go. Did it. Like it was. So crazy apparently started off as a game of truth or dare. But then like in the guys are like, Whoo, you make out with you or whatever like their frigging high school and then the guy's left and they just kept making al I don't believe that. Okay. Tell me right now what guys walk out of Exactly you're so right because they weren't just making out an ISA was straddling jenny and yawning with straddling Melissa. Will on like grinding and making out guy and especially in that situation of being in a bunker. Yeah like, Oh, this is boring like let's go play some pool or whatever. Yeah. Right, just like, Casey, she wasn't leaving. She was like I'm hanging out. This is great. You see her turned her head she's trying to get up close and personal. What's going on here? He's like getting out the binoculars. Zoom in yeah. So that was interesting I don't know what else can we say about it I now I'm just curious that not that it matters like I'm just curious about Jenny. I don't know I mean it could've just been like like I'm just being drunken goofy whatever or it could be like didn't get the impression that she. An actually had a thing for each other because I just didn't even ever see them like interact this whole season I mean she says that she's a good kisser. Yeah. Maybe I don't know. Quite, interesting it is. All I, know she's been hooking up with bananas but. yes. So then we get a little bit of information about. And Angela Angela is the girl that he met on. Are you the one which is another MTV show not by ex on the beach yet you go on h Nelson started out on argue the wise then three and then they met so Angela, is from bad girls club she also on the challenge I always forget the final reckoning sorry I always forget the name of that season but they met on ex on the beach season two. Yes. Thank you always coming in with the facts Yeah. So they met there had been dating ever since. She, like when he came onto the show, they were still together and I guess some how some yet rumors got out that Nelson and D were hooking up. Yes and I don't I saw this rumor I don't remember if we talked about it on the podcast. I like we're I. Don't know why my gut just like it's one hundred percent not true. Yeah and that's why I feel like, I didn't up on the podcasts because guys if this is your first time listening I'm always the one to read spoilers. Leah does not yeah. I know every single spoiler that is out there and I built out what I should tell her what I know. Exactly. I read that and I just couldn't see it like. Didn't vibe with me so. Not a spoiler I feel like we should really talk about. Yeah. Just don't see that I don't see A. But. Maybe. Angela break up every time the wind changes direction. So I was also the mindset of are they even really together right now exactly. Well, and that's why like corey comes in he's like, I. Don't even like this girl like she can go just way I've met a lot. On that for extended Oh my gosh AH mixed. We say, Hi, Zack in Genoa and Corey says that he's not the one who deemed Jenna and Jenna. Says they've been going to therapy what else do we want to say? I think I know who it was. It was DM her then who And I cannot remember his name for the life of me and like I even thought about this earlier on and I can't think of the guy's name Bruno. That's it. Mars are so. There was a challenger, a Bruno he was homeless when he came on. Wall with on invasions if I remember correctly in K. and there was this rumor going around that Heaven. Or the same there in that he apparently I don't I hate this word I don't want to say this word, the F. Word. There's a lot of efforts. So I'm not quite sure if. That's because we all know I love that word I think it's the first base word yet. Okay. Well, I don't know a year first base it down. As. Okay anyways let's not get into that. All your first basis because apparently I was a prude. I don't even know where it is. What's So, apparently, Bruna Bruno and Jenna were on the plane together. Challenge and apparently they got caught like doing some hand action. Action is space base I don't think so but maybe. I think like Sanam, forgetting a base I think that's second in the Okay Yep. It's been a long time since I've had to be on that playing field. Okay. Guys, I. Hear You. So she denied denied denied in Amanda always said it was true always. Happens like it. He finger banged her which I fucking hate that way so bad finger. Worse word. Hate it. So. I think that that's who was deeming her because the timeline would match up because they weren't together during that and then they kinda hooked back up. Okay. I. Like it Bruno Yeah Horry I'm GonNa need you to get Britney Spears style on US wearing red sure in. INSTAGRAM post if it was brewed Oh. Okay. Yeah I. Bet you. It was that makes total sense to me. So. Then we find out that Swaggie and Bailey were married for two whole years before anybody found out because they just wanted to keep it special for them. Two years. That's a long time. That's a very long time to keep it a secret our big brother fans just not super investigators like challenge ninety, two go. Up I mean. It's hard because you get so much on the life feeds like you don't really feel like you need to do much else. I think that if this had happened on like love after lockup ninety day, fiance the challenge the receipts would have already been there. Somebody would have already had Barrett certificate. Yeah. That's it happened. Yeah. That's one hundred percent. Yeah I don't I don't think big brother people are like that because I follow a bunch of big brother like accounts and stuff and Posted anything so rate. So I'm GonNa Watch the crazy ass that knows like everybody's social security number. If they ever went to jail, they got a Pi when they were seventeen love it I'm so ready for that. We need that. So then we see the big toe. Injury. And we get a little bit more Of that scene in Sivas, she liking needed to have her wig whenever she left to go get her toe stitched up. Yeah. High Heels Mascara in a wig to go to the hospital. To See for the doctors. Just. In case I, lose this to- that stabilizes all of my balance. Oh. My God like the fact that she wanted to put on high heels and a literally her foot was injured. But. So funny she does admit that she somebody told her maddie wanted to fight her. So that's why she jumped down. Yeah. So what's the how? I don't know if somebody was messing with her or just cannot see a world where those to fight. They're both like so ninety seven I, don't get it. I don't know that Tara, it is weird I. Don't I don't know about that one me neither I want them to be friends 'cause I like both of them. Can. We just go back to swaggie really quickly talk about how? He seemed very unaffected by the fact that they had been married for two years. Yeah. That was really gross. He was just grossing me out. He's just being so mean a Renault emotions. I think he just didn't want to be on the reunion. and. So he was just acting like weird and. I don't know I. Wish trying to come off as wes very intellectual, very logic based, but it was a wrong moment. Yeah, it's like be happy that you. He's just he's not genuine. That's the thing. Yeah it really is swaggie. We don't know he yelled at that fanfare saying Oh look get married because we'd have money for a ceremony and then she says other union while we just had a small intimate ceremony for us and we're GonNa have one later went two years later a for your parents and your family. Guys I've been in the wedding planning business if you wait two years to have another ceremony. On. You it's a fucking money related. Yeah. A hundred percent and that's so weird like. I don't know that was just GonNa be. That's GONNA weird people out like okay. Two years. Later we'RE GONNA go to your wedding, and now we have to buy you a gift even the been married for years such as strange if the party and it's because it was money related every. Time hands down. Yeah. No, I totally agree We also see that was some drama between Nelson, and Swaggie, and it's all centered around Bailey because Nelson called daily a rat it was just like such a big. He said she said where I guess Nelson was to have Bailey's back and so Bailey went to Casey to try to make sure that the holy trinity would not vote her in and then Casey told Noni and then Like just all a bunch of Bullshit and Nelson ends up calling Bailey a rat and then Swaggie flips this shit and I mean they. They yelled at each other for a little bit. But nobody actually touched each other I thought it was great to see that little producer woman that like put herself in the middle of these big old guys like. Like what are you? GonNa do you can tell she didn't even think she just daily No. No we cannot have this Jordan's like, okay. You get back and let me take him because this is not safe. I thought that was sweet of Jordan like as soon as she put herself in there he's like no ma'am like I'll stand in the middle you can just not but then I also noticed that Nelson and Swaggie had the same slippers on when they were having their little heart to heart. So they must have issued all the people like all the men at least the same slippers. Oh, that would make sense. Yeah. Now is just a CEO of apologizing and repeating. He doesn't learn his lesson, Netto he does not I just I don't know I kind of like him. To. That I don't know we get another little insight into the whole Kayla's situation and what went down and she just talks about how we're really NONI talks about how there's a lot going on behind the scenes and that Nani believes that Kayla did the right thing. Yet that means there's a lot of missing pieces that we don't know about which okay I I mean. That's their relationship outside of the show I can respect that yeah. When she calls her friend Nicole and her friends like he knows, he already knows girl like you better just fly straight to UK don't even come back to America. That's raw. Yeah that must be terrible. You would think it would be a terrible feeling but she basically says it brought her closer to bear because she's like, Oh, here it he knows. So like might as well just keep making out with him. I it's like you just didn't want to have that one phone call because remember we speculated that like did she call him had had a conversation with him? He doesn't WanNa talk to her through filming. How do you go on and say? Well what all do you know because he's reading it from the spoiler twitter's just lay out was yeah. I. I didn't like how Kayla handled all of this and the fact that at the end of her little segment, she's like. This was just a really hard situation for me like it was all hard for me like how hard do you think it was for your boyfriend that was sitting back at home? who had no idea what was going on who couldn't contact? You couldn't text you. I was their connection like she wanted us to have pity for her and I'm like, uh-huh ain't GonNa Happen Not for me. No and nobody says, the problem Kayla is she's never bid by herself. So, she puts on his back rolled by she's codependent. Yep. I totally agree with that and then I think honestly that was kind of. Telling of what nominees view of Harare what her relationship with Sam as late as well because guess, we're Kayla is right now. In the UK with Sam, how long have you been dating and like we're in the middle of a pandemic and you're gonNA live with him in a whole other country away from your friends and family, and she's been there for a while. I don't like that I wouldn't be happy if one of my friends did that and what sucks is I like Sam I really likes the Oh yeah. He's a great guy but you're right. It's like Kayla has never just been single and worked on herself and just take time to be like who is Kayla like? What kind of man do I want you know? This is Julia Roberts from runaway bride shows no kind of egg she likes she doesn't know she's got to try them all. She needs to know we get to see you more of them like I don't know why they said behind the scenes. They just showed us more of the people driving and like being bad at driving in actually. So Kyle said during the when the episode aired of him being terrible driver that his dad was a stunt driver right? Well, here he says he's actually the best driver in the UK. If Not America. And the world's. Crazy. HOW DISAPPOINTING I needed us to have a cameo of Kyle's dad like commenting I just WanNa. See Him Watch this scene. That's all I want. I would have been so good. I really want. What I went tj. On these reunites. Yeah, that would be fabulous or TJ could host it right now would be so. Why he hope everything else Ya that would be amazing because then they can't lie because he knows he knows everything. and. Then they couldn't quit either I feel feel like. TJ Love. The show as much as he used to love it. I? Yeah. I agree with that and honestly I wouldn't hate it if TJ retire like I love. TJ. But I'm saying like eventually he's going to retire. So when he does I, would be okay with bidding on this taking over I was going to say the exact same thing. Yeah. As much as like I hate bananas because like he gets away with cheating on his girlfriend, all the time and nobody calls him out. I. He might be okay with it we don't know. Just, tell us the truth I. That's all I demand the. Because you think that they're going to get engaged. I hope not I. Think. Morgan. Deserves better. The cheater to a wall of whatever they deserve better. We skipped over how Ashley brought that up. Yeah. So Ashley called out on twitter which this is what we were all saying like, why are they not showing us the drama between bananas in j because of the whole Morgan thing and we actually find out that Jay. Had Approached Bananas and said Like Hey Dude F y were cool. You got the girl good on you like let's move on. Good for Jay because Jay is the bomb I love Jay. So. Yeah We've got about a couple of drunk nights one where I guess Josh was just throwing up constantly which is disgusting and he's Only like four or five years. I'm just trashed. And that's just disgusting. I just can't imagine anything worse than being trapped on a bus full of PUKE. He also told me that he wanted to throw up. That's cool. Don't be that. Guy. Josh. Who does that I'm like Frat got? You. Hope that's the worst. We also hear about the story of Noni losing one of her veneers. Okay Does she have? Shit even ears I. Think so I think all of them do all these people with these crazy white ass teeth on the show I feel like they all get like these. Bad. Veneers and I feel like long term like when they're old their teeth are all going to fall out because of it. So they all go to some dentists in Turkey. Who Hooks it up yes. But when you get your. Sorry guys like Super Stuffy Right now when you Go to the nearest Sunday. File your teeth down right in. Yes. Like huck Hawaii saw not too. That was really short that whenever her veneer came off, you could just see a little tiny short t to. Look that bad to me. No because our teeth are meant to be what they are like. You. Don't you're not supposed to file your teeth down. But what I'm saying I don't think they filed that tooth down enough. Because I've seen picture of what it looks like when you go through that process and it's hobbit looking like it's scary my God y'all don't do it like I know that it looks nice ever but is not good like you need your. Lol. You need your enamel in your teeth just get invisible line I guess she got a new veneer she didn't swallow it. She lost in the bus. Why didn't we see that? Why was there not but it's like there used to be of them coming back. love footage. we get some final thoughts on the season. It looks like Tories coming back there setting her up to come back which we love to see an Isa wants more credit for her you know her performance this season. Which I get. Bailey says we're here to stay and I'm like so what's the timeline of when you guys did all that whole like dramatic instagram announcement saying that you were never going to go to see reality TV again in the now you're going big brother we call this, we call this. Stupid and dramatic. What else? Noni like again says that nobody has her back and she she's just GonNa only look out for herself moving forward probably smart. We'll see how that pans out for her I don't believe her. And then we end on the very positive. Happy. No of meeting Baby Vienna. She is so cute. She's so cute little nose and she had dark hair. It just makes me think like I'm sure the baby daddy has dark hair. But like I bet you Melissa has really dark hair under all that blonde. You'd think so I bet she does. It I can totally see it so. So cute and that's it for season thirty, five folks. That's a wrap remembering guys WANNA here are like all the. Drama and more of these thirty six and what's to come. You can head over to Katie on for arts addition.

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Go Inwards for Activism! Voting, Personal Activism & more with Jen & Nani of The Filipino American Woman Project

Filipina on the Rise

56:28 min | 5 months ago

Go Inwards for Activism! Voting, Personal Activism & more with Jen & Nani of The Filipino American Woman Project

"I challenge you to look inward and having a conversation with yourself like. Why do i really upset about that. I need to follow that The most simple way that you can plug in is just being able to want to learn about it. You don't have to want to change it right away but as long as you're curious start exploring that why not. Just look at yourself in the mirror. Say what can i do today. What does activism look. Like for me today and i say that with a ton of love because i know what. It's like to feel powerless. And if you can realize that you already have this power within yourself and all these options resources you have so much more power and control than you realize and you can act in a way best suits you welcome to the philippine on the rise. Podcasts where i spotlight filipino. Women doing big things and making an impact. I'm your host. Chris avella and i aim to promote tonight. Excellent empower our community through our stories while educating the world about us and celebrate what it means to be a filipina. Today we're talking to jen amos and ninety dominguez. Jan and ninety are the host of the filipino. American women project or for short kief off which is a podcast that covers stories and life. Lessons told by american women of filipino. Descent also the to our people. I'm lucky to call friends and women. That i really look up to. And who helped me with podcasting and personal lengthening. Jen is the founder and co host of fox. She's an award winning podcast or an online entrepreneur and advocate for promoting personal narratives. She runs four different podcasts and her favorite topics to cover on her shows involve military families entrepreneurs women and mental health in august twenty ten participated as speaker for podcast global in addition to the media platforms events and organizations. Her favorite medium. Speaking has been through podcasting. We also like to call her at degen. Noni is a co host of the filipino project and by the way of her biracial identity. She offers an intersectional perspective that allows listeners to be vulnerable and explore the most addictive in addition to podcasting ninety is a blogger on her blog notes by noni dot com where she writes to normalize the new teric villain experience and hopes to serve others going through identity crisis relationship issues processing generational trauma and other mental health issues publians inter families and culture definitely go check out the show and their content. When you have the time it is amazing. I also have via guests on the show so my episodes on their to shape but anyways enclosing filipino american history month. I'm so excited to have jenin. Noni on the show before october i reached out to the due to do collaborative episode the theme of filipino american. History month this year was highlighting philippine-american activism being that we were both pod casting platforms sharing a mission of highlighting filipinos. I thought it'd be meaningful to have discussions specifically for filipino women and activism in thinking about this month election season and so much discourse around political social and racial injustice calling people to step up and take a stand we wanted to share activism can take on several forms and encourage way i felt personal and natural for example. We love that podcasting has been a medium for our activism to everyone get ready to be along for the ride. This discussion got rich and real so fast with these two with lots of powerful insight in this episode. We discuss everything from voting plugging into current events and taking care mental health. We talk about taking personal responsibility dealing with an overall issues to narrow down what you care about. And we share vulnerable experiences and stories and and with a very powerful message. I cannot wait for this talk with these two here. We go thank you so much for jumping on this episode with me on the rise. I am so excited and honored to be recording with youtube. Finally how are you all feeling doing. I'll go ahead naughty. Yes no doing good just having a little bit of a bit of technical difficulties trying to get on this call but now that we're here doing much better. How about you jen. Oh i'm doing absolutely well. I think i'm exhausted already because it's already been a long day for me by. I'm just so thrilled to unwind with both of you like that's one thing i love about doing shows like this is like i don't feel like i have to put on a show where i don't feel like i have to be extra attentive. It's just hanging on my girlfriends. And i'm cool with that. Yeah and everyone's hanging out with us too. It's interesting 'cause october's filipino. American history month amidst current political social events pandemic elections coming up. Why don't we just get really real and raw ninety. How do you feel about everything in the going on right now and like i guess as taking on these topics does love to learn about how your thoughts around it. Yeah i mean. I think the current landscape of what's going on today in our society is a complete mess especially as we head closer to election day which is at the time of this recording. It is going to be next wednesday so it's coming up on us pretty quickly. I know as someone who has been really advocating and pushing for people to go out there and vote. I still have not cast my vote yet. But i do plan to do so and make that a priority in the next week so i want everyone to know that i do plan on practicing. I've been preaching and hopefully we can get a little bit more into that in this episode today. Yeah for sure for myself. I think that these times are extremely emotionally charged for a lot of reasons at the time of this recording. We're still in the pandemic. Were still practicing social. Distancing were still you know staying at home because we have to and for someone that loves being at home. I like it when it's an option not when tori and so here. I am feeling like superstar crazy and fortunately my husband and i. We actually went on vacation recently. We were out in the mountains for a couple of days. And by the time we got there and i was telling you this off line. We actually didn't have wifi when we came there and so it was really an opportunity for us to unplug. But anyway i think my thoughts right now is that yes. It's an emotionally charged time right now like people are. I mean you can see it just on social media like i feel like i've kinda backed away from social media. I mean i'm there like selectively by you know you could easily just get in rage you can easily be anxious and depressed if you're on there because it's just so like i said going back to the word emotionally charged right now with everything. That's going on and in theme of filipino. American history month this year being about the history of filipino american activism. What i encourage everyone and this is sort of what what i'm telling myself to do is to show up and to really act out. The verb act in the word activism like now is the time to act. You know based off of what you're angry about based off of what you're upset about based off of what you're passionate about you have to act and so with that said i also wanna add that my husband and i. We initially opted in to do a mail in ballots to vote right now. Because it's like. Yeah it makes sense like we wanna get it. Mailed in practice social distancing however really these last couple of days and especially since the last presidential debate if anyone watched that we felt a sense of responsibility to show up in person and the thing is if anyone is curious if you opt in for a mail in ballot and you want to actually change that you want to vote in person you have to bring your entire envelope that was mailed to you with your ballot and you can give it to them. They're in person and then they'll just market void so that you can vote in person and let me tell you ladies like it was very shocking to go in person because it was long lines outside of the place of the location. We're going to vote it. Was you know you saw the signs. Like socially distanced six feet apart. Everyone was wearing masks and it took us almost an hour and a half just to make it to the voting booths. Yeah and actually. It was funny because we had our dog because we are very attached dog so my husband couldn't go in with our dog so he's going to go in on another day but i was able to go in and vote in that way but yeah it took us almost an hour and a half disneyland lines. Y'all but let me tell you the presidential election. I voted stamp to me is so much more impactful than the mail in ballot. Something from me. Or it's like i had to show up like i just i had to like. This is a time where i need to act. I need to be there. But i also one thing i would add about that. Experience is that it was so crazy to see that it was so crazy to stand in that line for as long as we did especially on a workday on monday. But let me tell you. It was also really inspiring. It was really inspiring to see how many people showed up to vote in person because they felt like it was that important to them. So that's part of why. I feel like i wanna encourage anyone who is able and willing and courageous and will practice social distancing to vote in person because this is a historical time. Y'all like is a historical time like we will not forget this time. There will never be a time like this. Where people are going to the ballots wearing masks. You know what. I mean like the voting and so that was very impactful for me to go to that and i'm so glad that i chose to opt in and vote in person. That is so interesting. Just the physical act of like literally showing up and how that has a different energy to it than writing it in and mailing it in and like you said this is like such a monumental time is making me rethink like. Yeah i'll be so much easier to mail in. But i think i'm going to figure out how to how did you that in person and i currently live in florida and my ballot is in california and so i have been researching just all the hoops and hurdles of just getting in the vote. And it's so great that you were able to just be there directly. Get it done and walk out and get your vote. I get so frustrated. With how complicated. It still is for just to figure out how to do it. And like the registration timelines and deadlines and the process of it. it just. It really gets to me that there are these like hurdles that we saw to face. And it's like voting is one thing but like figuring out how to and coordinate your life around that. I don't know anyone's thoughts around that you know. Let me just say this. If you can vote in person you should vote in person. Because i know how you're feeling crystal because like this morning scott and i spent some time trying to dig up all the paperwork. You know we're like where's our ballot and reading it and seeing like okay. Well if we want a mail it in. Where's it going to go wednesdays. Excellent thing and it's like. I said obviously the mail in ballot is there for a reason. I participated in that in the recent years. But there's just something about this year. That i had to do it in person and i'm just saying if you are able to do it like find a way to figure it out. Go to your local registration office or call in and ask them like. Where's the nearest place. I can return by mail in ballot and actually vote in person so you know the stress of figuring out how to mail it in is more than actually showing up and exact adding there for an hour when you're in line waiting for an hour listening to crystal show you got time to kill like might as well listen to filipino on the rise. Right like american women project or reading on your valid true. I'm just saying you know. First of all vote right. Like if you've oh like awesome by if you can vote and if you can vote in person do it because you're going to remember that and you get a different sticker voting in person than you do with mail in ballot and i'm telling you like i will not forget this time that i voted absolutely not. Yeah it's absolutely a time. That's going down in history and especially you know for this specific election. There's been all this talk and all this news coming out about how they're trying to suppress your vote and so we really have to. I think hold that privilege that we have of voting with much weight as japan is trying to give it right now because it does truly mean that much and you know if you've already figured out the kind of channels of either mailing it in or going in person ben kudos to you and we're so proud of you and if you haven't then yeah go in person on the day of and vote at the polls and make sure that your voice doesn't go to waste you know because otherwise it will not actively using it it will be taken at some point because that's the structure of the world. We live in today. So yeah i think that's also why it's especially important yet and the last thing i want to add on that. It's so crazy. I didn't realize it'd be so passionate about this but because it's just it's very like fresh on my mind but like early voting is available right now. Like right here in virginia like they've had the polls open for. I think almost two weeks now so you can seen not yeah. Check your local area. But they're allowing that so for us. It's between. I don't know last week till the end of this month where you could actually go in person so you can find time. You should find time you will find time. Go and thank you for doing that. Research like telling us that because for someone like me. It's just so. I like every other day. Something about oh you know. They're already throwing out ballots that have been mailed in or zone drops locations have been compromised or whatever the headlines are and. It's like all of that whether it's true or fake is intentional right propaganda. it's intentional to un. Motivate you to not wanna go vote and that's exactly kind of the effect. If i'm being honest that has had on me not that it's gonna change my decision. You know our make me not act. But if i wasn't as kind of in tune as i was before all of this mess started swirling around than it would definitely just make. It seem like a really daunting task. That i would rather not mess with. Which is i. Think the majority of our generation how we feel you know like it's just too complicated to get involved in here on that there may be people who don't have the luxury of voting. Who are listening to this right. And this is something that you kind of just have to observe from the outside in. And i actually want to unwrapping occurred the thought on on voting if you do have the ability to vote like consider your privilege and your honor right because a lot of people don't and they live here and they have to deal with this and have to stand outside like i wasn't a citizen until twenty fourteen and there are so many elections. I kid you not that. I was so envious i'd had major foam of not being able to participate and then i would see people just waste their vote and say i just don't get it like i feel like my vote doesn't matter anyways my state swings the other way like it doesn't matter i wasn't right up enough and like i would just be really frustrated with that because like what i would give. I will stand in free. Yeah you know what i mean and so finally when i did like at my citizenship it was the first thing i thought when i sat there and i got like there was a ceremony like marion citizen. I held my leg certificate. And i was like wow i own now literally so exciting and so like people who do don't and like are feeling the fence about it like do it. If not for you do it for the people who can't yeah. That's a great point. Yeah i want to add one more thing about that to my mom. She is an immigrant from the philippines. And she has just always instilled in meets vote. She's always like literally every year she's like did you vote voting. You know where to go like. She like literally like that and so it's instilled in me to do that. And you know this makes me angry. And i just have to share this because it really angers me what really really angers me is when and you know i have some close people in my circle who are so opinionated about the political landscape and they're choosing not to vote because are upset and i'm just like what like don't waste my energy of listening. I better people to listen to then three like i. I listen to people for a living. And i listen to people who are action oriented. And if you're venting and you don't act it's like what are you doing. You're wasting don't it's not useful anymore. I think like i heard. I don't know who said this the other day but they were like it's not ideal anymore into just present problems. It's like if you're gonna present a problem also bring a solution with. Yeah you're just complaining or whining exactly exactly those exactly That being said you guys. This year has been a lot. I think at the beginning. I don't know about you. I was really plugged in right when an warranty in shelter in plays and when the pandemic became very real i was super plugged in and then i found myself kind of backing and retreating a little bit getting off of you know not downloading and streaming so much information because it just got really heavy and then like the racial justice movement started happening and there. Is this a kind of activism with this right. Like of what used to look like when you can go on the street and you can show up in these conventional ways and now it really made you confront like. How do i want to show up. How important is this to me. What is like my personal activism look like now versus performance and so. I'm just curious with you all like a how your activism. How you've seen it shown up this year and the reason i ask is because like maybe for a lot of listeners. It's just like a lot of. How do we show up with all the overload of social media the news and wanting to feel like you need to take care of your mental health role. And that's totally okay. You know so like the balance all that. Yeah that's definitely been us. I feel like jen. I mean that's what we say are we've said on every episode that we've released since quarantine is you know you won't find on social media anymore so make sure that you are plugged in with us in other ways you know where we will be focusing our attention because i think everyone has felt that collective kind of overwhelmed and the transformation of kind of i feel like it's become really trendy to be an activist online and while i think that that is a great trend to be happening right now and i'm grateful for social media to be able to spread information like that and i think it is a form of activism to share and for more information resources. Even if they are memes or you know you're posting caption on your story or on your feet or whatever. Those are all great things. But i think what i have been trying to encourage our listeners to also be doing is to think about the ways that they can incorporate the information that they're learning or teaching online through social media blog post whatever into their everyday like real lives. You know and so like crystal had mentioned it's not necessarily limited any more to the more conventional ways of plugging in which would be you know like attending protests going to a physical protest or joining a grassroots organization or things that seem like they're gonna take up a lot of room on your plate rather than actually taking those things that you're learning online and applying them to your everyday life. Meaning you know. Start a conversation with your family. A difficult conversation with your family. That you know is taboo or that. You guys don't normally talk about or that you know that. There's you know some kind of problem that you're seeing show up elsewhere in the world but you can address right there at home that can also mean sharing resources with your friends not just online actually sending things to people and referring them to specific resources that you think would help them or that you guys can at least have a dialogue about so that you can both learn from each other speaking up when you see injustice show up in the world and do you know at the grocery store or the bank or wherever you're going these days and at the most personal level teaching yourself you know so it's okay to admit that we all have blind spots because we all have them and as long as you're being proactive about addressing them and on learning the toxic things that create your unhealthy behaviors and trying to replace them with like newer healthier ways of being and thinking that i think that is the least that you can do you know that requires the most minimal effort aside from voting. Of course. yeah for sure. I feel like a gave a ton of advice and tips on how to show up. Essentially what i want to add upon that is in addition to taking it to that macro level that you're talking about in doing it amongst like your loved ones and trying to speak up you your circle when it comes to like activism. I know i did mention earlier that it's about taking action. It's about doing something. But i also think sometimes it's about stepping away from something like for example the people who a. How do i explain this cutting back from certain social media cutting back from watching certain things because if you support something you don't like you're just enabling them to keep doing more of it like if you don't like the opposing party but you're complaining about them and you're just talking about how awful they are like you're feeding into that like you are feeding into the problem instead. Cut back from that and focus on something else or if you can cut out all the hate in your life if you can cut out like what is making you angry. What is beneath that. would you really want. I think that going back to what i was saying. At the beginning of this conversation a lot of us are very emotionally charged in angry right now and i get that. I absolutely get that at the same time. That doesn't serve any of us. It just makes angrier instead it's like. Can we appeal. And i'm speaking from people that are in my circle. That makes me angry. Because it's like you are more than that. You are more than angry more than being emotional like you can make a difference like stop looking at other people and what they're doing and look at yourself like what are you doing. What are you cutting back on. And even if you cut away all that anger and all that rage and you don't know who you are start there like start there. It's okay if you don't know like what you want or who you wanna stand for. Just start there like please. Because it's like. I'm you know you can hear it in my voice but i'm so frustrated to hear it all like i'm so angry because it doesn't solve anything like anger is just a surface level emotion. That's covering up something deeper with it. New and sometimes anger is a crutch to keep you from actually wanting to take personal responsibility and as someone such as myself. That's been an entrepreneur for the last decade. I'm all about personal responsibility. You know it's so important because you have to realize that you can be the change that you want to see. You know kind of what we talked about in your conversation on our show crystal. When you mentioned this quote that really stood out to me. It's like find a hole in the world in the shape of you and still it and like there's a whole a whole for y'all and like it's in the shape of you specifically but if you keep looking at all the other holes that don't look like you and your criticizing them and you're telling them like oh like you need to look more like me. It's like no you need to look like you focus on you. Yeah i think that's the important thing this month is like in non you kinda mentioned to start with yourself. Yeah you know and so anyway. That's my rant. But i love that i can't here. I get here the conviction and the emotion in your voice jenin. Clearly speak through. I love that you are focusing on starting with the united. We talked about this before the show about. There's this descendancy to reach outward and see these around you and wanna throw your opinions your stance on them and that's it's great and all but my biggest transformation. I think as an activist zero years back i was very on the external side like i would organize protests and stuff in school and then do a lot of campaign in policy activism work here and there and then i noticed this year when i retreated i went through this phase of like just feeling overwhelmed and closing up from everywhere. I thought that was me hiding under a rock but i realized it was actually my body telling me like you need to stop trying to be part of the noise and like we'll get yourself and asks like what do you actually need to confront like if you're asking for change like have you changed that in yourself yet. Do you know any means right. I had awakening moment. When i'm out here saying like oh yeah. Racism like injustice. Let's fight it. And then i'm walking down the street and it was during the black lives matter protests and then this group of like you know lack folks like pass by and i immediately had this reaction that was honestly internalized racism and when i saw that within myself i was shocked and i realize like you need to start the work in yourself i is. I started reading all these things. Like kind of like d- what is it called like decolonizing yourself like on programming. Some of the unconscious bias. Season races that you have and has been the most transformers stuff. I've been doing the past few months. Like just through. Cut of auditing and checking yourself and seeing where you do have underlying by caesar's communications in racism that You need to start with yourself. I and that has been the best thing. I think i've done in my own and so i do encourage that to anybody like you could start with yourself and it's gonna be way better than trying to figure out your stance on all these issues you know. Yeah yeah no pressure. Thank you for sharing that. I feel like most people would not want to share that out of fear of judgment or whatever but that is exactly what this is about. And i'm so proud of all these people that i see online showing up and admitting these things like oh you know. These are things that i've heard for years and years and years and i never thought that it applied to me until i see all this stuff happening in twenty twenty and i have a small interaction like that that you know just like a light bulb goes off for me and that's my signal that i need to follow that you know that curiosity like you said earlier. Crystal and a lot of people don't have the courage to do that or they just wanna turn away me myself. I've not really been a fan of confrontation my whole life. And i think. I've used that as an excuse not to stand up in certain moments when i know i should have and. That's what this time has really been about for me is learning how to just spit it out. You know 'cause. I'm always thinking it Rarely say it. Because i want to avoid confrontation like i think a lot of people also tend to do and so yeah that i think again is the most simple way that you can plug in is just being able to recognize it within yourself and want to learn about it. You don't have to want to change it right away but as long as you're curious about why are people so upset that people feel this way. Or why are people so upset that people react this way you know. And if that's something you can personally relate to start exploring that. Yeah absolutely. I think i want to add about activism is that it's gonna come down to trusting your gut what you were talking about like activism is not just what you see on television. It's not just doing the marches. It's not just holding up the signs. It's not just like posting stuff on social media. Or what have you. And it doesn't have to be so radical like to me and to me in our show what we do on the tv project. I believe what we're doing a form of activism. But you don't care me you don't hear me sounding angry and now i sound like you know for us. It's about celebration. It's about like oh my gosh like we have space like. That's one thing that people need to realize that. I encourage you to challenge your own self when you feel like you don't have options that we have space anyone can start a podcast show. Anyone can start and ninety. And i when we did the show together like obviously we were kind of making it up as we go but as time went on we started to realize the impact of creating the space. Because we couldn't and that's one thing that you know for everyone that is a creative for everyone. That is blogging. For everyone you know to therapists who focus specifically on the filipino community. You know there's coaches dedicated to serving women of color that is a form of activism. It doesn't always have to be out of anger. You don't always have to yell yell to prove your activism you don't telling host. The black squares on social activism can come off as a positive act and so i really challenged everyone. Who has maybe anger right now and has been just pointing fingers at everyone else but themselves. I challenge you to look inward and be like and to peel that layer of anger or whatever whatever that anger is whatever that is whatever that external thing you keep focusing on a number of external things you're focusing on i encourage you to look inward and start by looking in the mirror and having a conversation with yourself and saying like why really upset about that like why is it so important for me that i need that person that i will never be able to touch in my lifetime to change for me. You know it's like why not. Just look at yourself in the mirror. Say what can i do today. What does activism look. Like for me today and i say that with a ton of love because i know what. It's like to feel powerless. You know that's a this is a story for another time. But i know that feeling and if you can realize that you already have all this power within yourself. All these options in resources and community. Hello we have going on here. And our network on this show filipina rise in the philippine american woman you have so much power and control than you realize and you can act in the way that suits you in. I encourage you to look inward and figure that out or talk to us around two. We'll brainstorm with you star. We'll figure it out together but like it's okay to trust yourself and to tell yourself that you matter and you can make a contribution in this world you can ask you should and you will. I love that jan. That was made asleep. Said exactly. Yeah snapping over here. You can hear my cloudy ladies. My job walkaway. I think we can end right here. No i love that. It makes me think of the concept of arts activism that starts to transform activism and showing up in. Sometimes you see like you said in this angry. This clenched fist. This negative light into something that can actually be very beautiful and celebratory. And i'm seeing that in so many different forms now like you can get creative and very personal activism someone that i just had on the show. She's a yoga movement dance instructor orange activism in the form of that like holding classes that allows for bringing up talking social justice or just like the mind body spirit connection when it comes to justice and activism in the world through yoga. Like what's known cool. you know. It's really so creative. And then we see people who like paint these beautiful arts just to deliver a message end to provoke discussion and thought it doesn't have to be these rigid forms. You know what i mean. Like what creative forms have you all seen. Oh man oh yeah. That's a good question. Those are really good examples though. Yeah i mean. I like how you mentioned. Art activism chris. I've never heard that term. And i like as soon as you said i was like. Yeah like i'm excited create activism. You can create our art to create activism. So you know like yeah. Like yoga is definitely one i think just in general like we had a guest on our show and did a thing who in who lives in boston and incorporates. Filipino artwork into her non. You can help me out if you recall this conversation but you know into her chuck artwork on the streets of boston. You know i hope. I got the right place for that but like check my notes but you know her. Artwork is one thing i think about. You know some of the therapists we've had on the show. Who specifically focused on helping women of color or queer people are by people. Not just therapist but coaches and i just think that there's so many ways activism doesn't have to be reactive it doesn't have to be march ignorant of this. Let's let's work through. Let's decolonize ourselves as you both have mentioned and avenues to do that. I feel like sort of repeating myself at the examples. But i just want to stress the fact that you know if there's anything that people should take away from this conversation as that holding your fist up in the air or holding up signs of being angry that is valid. That is so needed. It's just not the only thing that's available to practice activism. Yeah there's also all this other behind the scenes kind of work so just a couple that i could think of off the top of my head like in my social circles that i've seen are like when the presidential debates were going on. Some of my friends wanted to host like a debate parties. So you know how people have like fight parties for boxing or whatever we were going to have like a debate party where we all got together and did like potluck style. Watch the debates. I don't think that the debates were even worth all of that. But you know it was a creative idea. And then another kind of pre plug. That i have that i'll be including as soon as it's ready in our next newsletter in the filipino. American woman podcast newsletter. I'm working with my best friend. She's going to create for us. A filipina friendly boating guide. And i'm gonna try and fish it out as soon as possible because she's really into like learning about all the propositions measures and people that are on the ballot and i'm really not and so. I asked her help if she could break down. Do like a the most abbreviated possible version of a breakdown. On voting guide specifically from a filipina american lens really highlight the yeah really highlight the measures in things that specifically speak to our community and so as soon as that's ready i am going to be pushing that out in crystal. I can also share that with you as well to share on your mom when it's ready but yeah hopefully that will be a really good resource for you guys. I mean hopefully it will come. We can get it out. You know as soon as possible. Because i know again. The election is on a winning coming up already. So yes now. I have a reason to stay. I'm holding off. Why progressing on voting. Because i'm waiting for the filipino. Friendly voter guide. You go another thing that would anyone like who is struggling with the voting part laid. There are guys that are put together. You just plug into an organization or group that you already trust and they have voter guides for you. You know right up on. And so i think that is such a great resource and thank you for putting that together like those really. Take a lot of research and kind of aim to do so. I put one together before my student body and it was just like a lot of work. Well i want to address something that may not actually talked about before and it was. It's overwhelming when it comes to the issues to care about. You know like it seems like everywhere. You look everyone. Everything's demanding attention about like what's very critical topic or issue. You need to care about this. A hundred other issues like climate. Change racial injustice like education policy like. There's so much out there. And i have an answer to this too but what is a message that you on his say about like overwhelmed with the number of issues one can tear about that it might like paralyzed someone to like not even know where to plug in this need to like. Oh i need to read up on everything and be knowledgeable about everything. If i even want to be a part of this activism. Were like showing up. Yeah i would say to pick one or two topics to start with and really like sit down and spend some time in attention thoroughly exploring those before you move on. I know that especially when you get on social media. You'll see you know one thing about racism and then you'll see the next thing about climate change and all of these posts are important and they all are addressed with such urgency. That it makes you wanna act. You know right then and there but i would urge you to just limit the topics that you're looking at to just one or two maybe so that you can actually get a thorough analysis of them before you start forming your opinions and things and then the more you understand about those one or two topics the more you can tie them into y y the next one that you're gonna study is important. Yeah yeah in addition to what he said. I think you know it goes back to what i was saying earlier of instead of looking at things externally and being angry at everything outside of yourself to really peel off that layer and look inward and really really hone in on what is most important to you. Just like what ninety said trying to find those one or two main issues that really really really impact you and your community and the greater community that you care about and i also just the one encourage people and this is gonna probably sound a little controversial. But you don't have to fill every hole every every circle in the ballot like you don't have to like you can just fill in the bubbles. That are most important to you. You know because it's better that yeah. Yeah it's fun it's better. It's better to make a very educated decision than an uneducated wants to just look at someone was like. I don't know anything about the but i like their name or oh i'm going to vote for them because they're that party. I know nothing about them. But i know that they're this party. And so i. I'll admit when i was voting. I didn't bubble and everything and i'm okay with that because i don't want to make a decision. I don't want to bubble in something. Just because i feel like a half do this is not the. Sat's okay your voting your insurance yeah like you're not gonna have less of a score all the doubles so i just wanted to test. I just wanna share with people. Because i think like just going back to what you are saying. Is you know everyone kind of this paralysis. By analysis when it comes to first of all wanting to vote and then secondly when you want to vote like just overwhelm of all the information out there and so i encourage you to like look just like said like focus on what matters to you the most and vote on the things that matter to you the most everyone if you haven't checked your mail lately or if you're mails piling up. Everyone has a sample ballot that get sent to their house. You could actually see ahead of time. And that's actually what i did like. We pre filled our sample ballot before we went to the polling booths. Because you know. I can just pull that out like my own cheat sheet and rather than sit there and contemplate because this is the pandemic. I don't wanna hang out there for too long. I can just you know. Just pulled out that chichi and i you know that i pre filled after talking about it with my husband and be on the same page with things and then just bubble it in and i was able to get that done really quickly and the best part. The best part was actually submitting the ballot. Because i was able to with my own hands. Put the ballet in the machine that scans it and says you voted like your ballot has been accepted. I'm just like yes validating. Yeah i know it went in. I saw it. I was there i held it right. You drop it in the mail there so again going back to if you can you should like voters and because the impact of it is so much different but anyway just going back to what i was saying to summarize. Yeah you don't have to fill out everything but vote. Vote or something pleaser. Or coming with all the voting. I know i'm so glad that at least one of us came in and did neither analogy. I mean it's funny. Because mondays is typically like for my husband and i we call it our admin days that drive into errands together and literally he was all like. Oh when should we go. And i was like tomorrow. Tomorrow's adleman date. So that's the only reason why i got it done today. And i'm so glad that i did because rushed to me and so i was able to let it all out just now like as roz. My feelings are super. Fresh then literally happened. Like i don't know like eight hours ago at this point i can't hear it in your voice. I i love the amped up energy. And it's making me like i'm going to go tomorrow. But it has to wait for red fulfil peanuts. But i'm i'm so glad i actually didn't even think about like you don't have to fill out all the holes like regardless of that's controversial or not i think reflects like you don't have to spread yourself out aggressive all things like it's actually better to like none. The united discuss to go deep in a few things rather than spreading out in all of them. Whether that's in voting or even carrying and being vocal about certain issues just like back to the choose one or two things and like last advice or even exercise that i would recommend is sitting with yourself and like thinking like what do i really actually care about. And it doesn't have to feel like a political thought or doesn't feel like when social issue here by what is like making your heart beat for better for worse when it comes when you hear about things when it comes to like issues that get your blood boiling or that you find yourself excited to talk about or find solution to because i think starting with that and just like following yourself. It'll lead you to find like italy due to research and find how your activism it's expressing itself like an example. I would say like my little sister. She is in middle school and she's having a really hard time doing school. In quarantine and virtual classrooms. And it's so sad to see her and her friends like their mental health is deteriorating. And it's because the education system they are not innovating enough to to keep yet to keep up with virtual learning. They just think they can like the replicate it and it's not good for how kids are learning their missing out a law and holistic education and plus it's actually exacerbating already like the gaps. I if the people who don't like parents at home to help them out or they don't have all this technology all these educational gaps that were already. There are just beginning more prominent. And where i find the touch point for me is like literally see my little sister going through a mental health crisis because of the night that makes me so sad to see and slowly. I just got emotional. Like hearing like talking about this right now and and distress also falls on you and your parents who else are in the house with them because again the schools just expect you guys to pick up the slack and make sure that the kids are in the zoom class paying attention you know and so on the kid at your household. Yeah totally can you imagine if you're like a one parent low income households. I can't imagine what they're going to work. Who is essential workers juggle that right and so you said as an example. Because it's made me like even though i feel overwhelmed by like all these issues. It's made me like go online and find like our candidates or like like legislators and politicians who are actually like acting on this and find out and one to give that support there and finding like the natural unfolding of that doesn't make sense right there. Yeah so anyways things really that i would love to learn like for you. All what have you found to be like Like certain issues that you really care about voting. of course. i think we're all passionate about that. That you've found like oh. It's allowed for more positive. And empowering kind of involvement for you. Yeah i would say one for me. I'm probably a prime example of someone who has tried to plug in to too many different movements at one time and really spread myself too thin and felt that overwhelming. And then going through the motions of unplugging and backing out of all of those commitments temporarily and then coming back refreshed and really just plugging into one or two. Which i would say would be the current racial injustice in america right now and defending press freedom specifically in the philippines although we are seeing that bleed into the united states is well now so those are two topics that i would say are probably most prominent for me in kind of just to go on about the press freedom things specifically about the anti-terror law and educating people about that and just really getting people to understand how this is just such a blatant attack on human rights and it really doesn't only affect people in the philippines affects anyone around the world that uses the internet so that is something to me that really hit home because i'm a blogger. I like to anna podcasters. So i like to speak on those platforms about injustice. That i see both here in the philippines and that that law specifically has threatened my right to do that. You know like since that came out. I've put my profile on private. And i've made certain posts that i've written on my blog private because i don't feel comfortable with them being public. Although that's also a threat basically to my activism in a way that i can show up in my personal life we talk about the theme of activism is to you know. I don't wanna say like just stop being so scary because it is going to be highly scary if i do go back to the philippines and tagged because yeah that could end very badly but at the same time you have to measure that with the importance of having the right to even host those things you know or speak about them on a podcast. So yeah. I think we've seen we've been warned at least on our podcast. Tepa back in as early as episode sixteen with j. l. who. I'm sure many of you guys already know who i'm talking about. But she started off that episode talking about how they're coming for our right to voice our opinions basically in that. Even things like blogs and podcasts. We're going to be kind of under threat soon. And that's exactly what we're seeing happening today. So that's something that i hold really close to my heart that i am actively kind of just considering and bantering back and forth with myself about on a day-to-day basis of yet more. Well researched when it comes to the global events which i absolutely appreciate and i'm just so glad you know to have you co hosting with me because you know that's something that you know. I'm not primarily focused on myself. And i'm not saying that that's wrong a right it just it is what it is you know as for myself when it comes to like the type of issues that i support for me. I think it's more. I support things more like. How do i explain it. Actually i think. I think the best way i can explain his by reading this quote quote on currently in my instagram profile. My personal account and it's by alice walker. Who is an american novelist. And this quote goes the most common way people give up. Their power is by thinking they don't have any and i think that you know it goes back to how i feel so enraged by certain people you know certain loved ones and people i know and my circle where they're just angry but they're probably not going to vote you know they're probably the people that may not vote and i don't know by i know one deliberately said told me that they're not going to vote you know and it's their choice. It's just that you know again. Don't waste my listening my listening ears. If you're if you're just to vent to me you know like and you're not gonna take any action on it. So anyway with that quote in mind i have grown this very personal responsibility to inspire people to embrace their personal narratives and tell their story and this is in in different areas so the obvious one is through our show the filipino american woman project. A lot of women who on that show who are sharing their story. It's the first time they're sharing their story. It's the first time they've been on a podcast. Some of it's the first time they felt heard scene validated and started to experience a form of self healing. And i think that a lot of in general don't think we matter and that's very sad. And i know that's a result of colonization and i feel like in every story that we do and and can attest this to we get messages all the time of people saying. Oh my gosh. I'm crying right now. This episode means so much to me. Thank you for doing this. And it's really grown up a personal responsibility in me to continue to promote personal narratives and in addition to what i do for our own community. I actually also do that in the military community so a little bit about my background. I don't know if i talk about this a lot. But as military child. And i'm also known as a gold star daughter and what that means you're hearing this for the first time that you lost a family member while they were on active duty and for me. That was my dad. I had lost him when i was ten years old. And so i have a very guess very intimate relationship with the military community at. I know what loss feels like. I know what it's like to feel like you don't matter because for me like my dad was the one person that made me feel like i mattered like on a very emotional level and so you know the way that i show up. Today is an honor of him. You know if. I can make people feel like they matter like i've done my form of activism because i think to me i believe that's where it starts. You have to know that you matter and that you can make a contribution in this world and when you know that you matter and you make a contribution you know what issues will matter the most to you like you know what you will fight for because you start to also learn that when your story matters other people's stories matter and it becomes a sense of responsibility to go beyond yourself and help other people. The last thing i want to share too is that i love absolutely love advocating for mental health. I'm a big big supporter of it. I personally have mild depression. And i have struggled with suicidal idealization. The more i learn about my dad's story the more i learned. That's where i got it from my. My dad's side has a history of mental illness. And so i am actively you know. Constantly consistently building community are being in community with people. In seeking out. You know mental health resources. I'm actively in counseling right now and i even give back to the community through a resource called seven cups where i'm not. I'm not like a licensed therapist. But i'm a trained listener and my job there. My passion on there is to make people feel like they matter and to feel like their problems matter. And so that's for me. Those are the issues that are most important are amplifying personal narratives whether it's for our community whether it's for the military community and also just being overall advocate for mental health and to me. These are very proactive issues. That are so near and dear to my heart and that i could spend the rest of my life doing so anyway. That was very long winded. But help that was good. That was beautiful beautiful down. Thank you so much for sharing all that. I think again just like emphasizes this way that we can make it personal me get something that like regardless of the elections coming up and like put putting that away putting the deadlines away putting the pandemic away. It's it's about like what do you actually want for yourself. I guess and do you know that you deserve that like. Do you know that you deserve to be heard. And that your story like you said matters and that you showing up and having a voice like it deserves to have a place in this world. And so i think we can easily get caught up with like. Oh i need to be doing this on the puck dan. Anita like be a good citizen and all this stuff like that is second to you being a human who has the right to be seen felt heard by society by your family bhai leaders in like whatever role you have in life and i think. What's so beautiful is that each of us have given an example. I think of what this could look like a sustainable and it's true to it's authentic. You know what. I mean so. Thank you so much for sharing that story. I think it's super inspiring. Yeah will thank you for giving us the platform crystal creating space for us to not just us but everyone else you've brought on the show because i think that podcasters are special in in so many ways like podcasters like i think genuinely care about people and they genuinely generally wanna create base because hey this is not just a record in posted up there. You know there's a whole production behind this and then plus the marketing side so it really takes a big heart to create this kind of space. So i can't thank you enough crystal for what you've done so far with your show and again for letting us be a part of it. Thank you so much from youtube. I mean the power due to podcasting and just creating a really powerful space as well. So thank you jenny nanny for coming on for just showing up so real and raw vulnerably at i really appreciate it so thank you. We appreciate you. Thank you for happy. 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2/15/21: Kemp tries to reframe image as state races to contain pandemic and more news

AJC Briefing

04:28 min | Last month

2/15/21: Kemp tries to reframe image as state races to contain pandemic and more news

"Good morning it's monday february fifteenth. I'm lucas dixon and here are today's headlines from the atlanta journal constitution brought to you by audible our top story. The new year has presented governor. Brian camp with dire political challenges. His approval ratings have plummeted over the past year in large part because president. Donald trump blamed him for his november election. Defeat not only must navigate a fractious republican party. Still under trump sway. But he also faces a likely rematch with arch-rival stacey abrams whom camp narrowly defeated in twenty eighteen in the centerpiece of his health. Care policy was thrown into doubt friday when the biden administration pulled back approval of a planned. Overhaul the state's medicaid program still. The first term governor is trying to regain his footing with an intense focus on the state's vaccination plan holding fourteen press conferences. Thirty media interviews and eight visits to distribution sites to detail the state's effort to contain the pandemic his allies. Hope that embracing the role of a vaccine. Governor could help reframe his public image. In virus news president joe biden recently interacted with small business owners in atlanta to understand how his administration can help more people during the coronavirus pandemic on saturday morning biden posted on twitter that he held a call with the owners of nonstop. An indian restaurant with locations in buckhead downtown atlanta and atlantic station biden tweeted a video. That shows samir. And neil noni reflecting on their business and how the pandemic has affected them as small business owners during the pandemic. Every day is an open question. Samir noni said our business has been down seventy five percent almost overnight. Many small businesses around the country have been hit hard by the pandemic biden. Said neal it noni told biden who is pushing an american rescue plan to help businesses. There's that the greatest need right now is for everybody to be vaccinated in other news early one morning. In mid december cheryl adams gone out of bed and peered outside the fog that obstructed view of the industrial plant in colbert. Less than a mile from her front door was now moving in a different direction. She could see the smoke stacks again and she realized it wasn't fog. It was coming from the plant for more than a year adams and other residents in northeastern georgia have shared their communities with twin biomass plants. In colbert and kearns bill. That began operating in summer. Two thousand nineteen biomass burning organic material such as wood or animal waste to generate energy accounted for only one percent of electricity generation in two thousand nineteen according to the us energy information administration in georgia. Almost half of the nine percent of energy that comes from renewable resources is biomass and finally tens of thousands of uninsured. Georgia children could gain a pathway to health coverage under a house. Bill moving through the general assembly. If approved the state would automatically enroll many kids receiving food stamps and medicaid the health care program for the poor and disabled about seven. Percent of children in georgia are uninsured. A higher percentage than the national average a majority of kids eligible for food. Stamps are also for medicaid because of their family income level but many are not enrolled in government health program house. Bill one sixty three which passed the house health and human services committee earlier. This week would direct the state department of community health to submit the new enrollment mechanism known as the express late to federal officials for approval. That's all for today. Check back each weekday morning for more from the atlanta journal constitution or go to ajc dot com. Have a great day. Start your twenty twenty one journey with more of what you love. All in one place with audible be audible. Plus catalogue gives you access to thousands of select audiobooks podcasts audible originals and more so whether you're looking to be informed entertained or just laugh a little more this year and joy twenty twenty one with audible and your first thirty days on us when you sign up at audible dot com.

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Nahanni Valley Pt. 2

Unexplained Mysteries

29:46 min | 2 months ago

Nahanni Valley Pt. 2

"This episode contains discussions of murder bodily mutilation and suicide that some people may find disturbing discretion is advised especially for listeners. Thirteen charlie mcleod stood on the deck. Well his steamboat pulled into vancouver. He'd had a long journey from the northwest territories in canada. In the foothills of the mackenzie mountains just below noni valley in may nineteen o eight. Charlie had led a search party to find his missing brothers. Willie and frank mcleod. He found two headless skeletons instead. Charlie believed his brothers had been murdered by robert. We're a scottish ship engineer. Who financed the expedition. We're had accompanied the macleod's on the trap. Charlie suspected the three men struck gold. And then we're killed william frank for their shares. Charlie was now on his way to vancouver to make sure he didn't get away with it for a while. Charlie had tracked weirs movements as charlie stepped off the boat into the bustling city. He felt closer to weird. Then he'd ever been his investigation eventually. Took him to a saloon on water street. Charlie entered the bar and spotted a barrel chested trail. Weary man buying rounds of drinks for patrons he had deep pockets. The man turned around in. Charlie saw his telltale blue is. This was his brother's murderer. Welcome to unexplained mysteries a spotify. Original from podcast hosts mali. And i'm your host richard in life. There's so much we don't know but in this show we don't take we don't no for an answer. Every tuesday and thursday. We investigate the greatest mysteries of history and life on earth. You can find episodes of unexplained mysteries and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify or wherever. You listen to podcasts. This is our second and final episode on the hani valley. A stunning remote river gorge in northern canada with a history of inexplicable deaths disappearances and beheadings last time we discussed the terrifying legends passed down by the indigenous people of the area the dna and how at the turn of the twentieth century. The promise of riches lured men into it's expensive wilderness. Anyway this included willie and frank mcleod martin jorgensen and phil powers all of whom lost their heads in mckinsey mountains. This episode will examine how and why these adventures may have ended up dead and headless at the time. Officials suspected foul play. But the truth maybe much board twisted. We have all that and more coming up. Stay with us. This episode is brought to you by prime video on february fifth hour in wilson and hayek star and amazon studios mind bending film bless the story of an unfulfilled man and mysterious woman. Who believed they're living in a simulation together they must decide what's real and where they belong. Chase something real stream. Amazon studios bliss february fifth. Only on prime video around the time is brothers. Were found dead. Charlie mcleod arrived at a bar in vancouver canada. He'd tracked down robert we're man. He suspected killed his two brothers. Willie and frank as the story goes. Charlie persuaded the liquor scotsman to sit down at a table with him and before the night was over. We are recounted his expedition with mcleod brothers. We are spoke about how indigenous tribes at arrest him in the macleod's throughout their trip. They've returned to camp to find their food. Supplies ripped open. Gunshots would ring out from nearby trees forcing them to abandon camps in a hurry. They were being hunted. We're couldn't confirm their assailants identities. The trio eventually discovered the bounty. They were looking for an enormous gold vein through a granite wall in the valley but after so many brushes with death. They decided to return. Later was more people. And more weapons. They harvested a few samples and departed during their return journey. We're and the macleod's decided to split up. Perhaps hoping to confuse their trackers. I they divided whatever gold they had on hand. Then the brothers headed east and we're headed west. According to the scotsman. That's all he knew. Charlie listened to weir's account but he didn't buy it. His brother's hadn't had problems with indigenous people during their first two expeditions. In fact when charlie accompanied them in nineteen oh four. A group of dna prospectors proved helpful. They showed charlie and his brother's gold. They'd found shirley suspected we're might be using the indigenous people as a scapegoat for a murder. He himself committed. But charlie didn't have proof after their encounter in vancouver. Charlie reportedly lost track of weirs whereabouts. His quest to bring his brother's killer to justice stalled for a bit then around nineteen twenty six. he learned. We're was living on a farm somewhere in central canada. According to some accounts the farm was located in saskatchewan others claim it was in viking alberta but regardless of the exact location. Most accounts agree. And what happened next in this story. Charlie traveled to the farm to confront. We're when charlie arrived on the property. We're apparently spotted him and ran into the barn on the property and before charlie could run in after him. He heard a gunshot. Charlie sprinted to the barn but it was too late. we're had shot himself in the head. According to charlie sparks from the gun shot ignited. Bales of hay in the barn. And the fire forced charlie out of the smoking building. We're was dead and the truth about what happened to the mcleod. Brothers may have died with him. Perhaps robert weird suicide was driven by guilt for murdering charlie's brothers however there are some holes in this logic as we mentioned previously william francs bodies were found with nuggets of gold encrusted courts on their persons. If we're had murdered the brothers out of greed he probably would have left us pieces behind. We're was also a foreigner with no prospecting experience. The chances of a mining the gold alone and then getting out of the treacherous valley alive would have been extremely low. More importantly the theory that we're murdered. The mcleod brothers fails to address the most perplexing questions surrounding their deaths. What happened to their heads. If all we're wanted was gold. He probably wouldn't have decapitated his companions and made off with their skulls. Not to mention the man. Charlie mcleod allegedly met in a bar. And who later died by suicide in a barn might not have been. We're at all the royal northwest mounted police also known as the mounties crafted very different narrative of what happened to the expedition sometime in nineteen ten about two years after charlie discovered his brother's bodies a human skeleton was found three miles south of their final resting. Place the mountie who is working the macleod gays corporal. Arthur h l. meller determined. The corpse belonged to robert. We're the information available is limited. So it's unclear how he arrived at this conclusion but we do know the body didn't have any gold on it. Meller believed that william and frank had either suffered a freak accident or starve to death. We're then left the brothers to get help but an accidental death along the way as for the macleod's skulls it was theorized that a carnivorous animal chewed them off and carry them away. The predator only eight the heads because the rest of the corpses were covered in clothing and blankets now a medical examination. Confirm or deny this theory but the few reports that have survived contradict one another. Some accounts mentioned that the vertebrae at the brothers necks were in shards suggesting their heads were ripped from their bodies with raw force. Other accounts mentioned that officials found hairs scattered beside the bodies. As if they'd fallen off during decomposition this would indicate that the heads remained on corpses for a considerable amount of time. After the men's deaths perhaps a few small animals devoured the heads. But this wouldn't explain why the third human skeleton was found unscathed or why the first two skulls disappeared. Naturally charlie mcleod rejected these theories. His brothers were both experienced outdoorsman. Who knew how to feed themselves in the wild. He refused to believe they starved. He also saw his brother's bodies and decapitations looked precise made intentionally using a sharp instrument. I can acts at the end of the day. There isn't sufficient evidence to prove either charlie or miller's explanation but there is one big problem with both of them long after robert. We're either died or went on the run. Men continued to lose their heads. In the honey valley coming up to more men end up dead and headless and what they're homicides might tell us about the macleod's hi. It's vanessa from podcast. They say there's someone for everyone a soul to share your secrets with a companion to grow old with a conspirator to commit crimes with starting this february on spotify learn about the lethal and legendary lovers. Who fought the law in the park. Cast limited series criminal couples. If you've ever referred to your best friend or beloved as your partner in crime this exclusive series is for you. Beginning february i join me for a collection of awful love. Stories from shows across the podcast network. Discover the extreme beliefs of leaders. 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Jorgensen went to the no honey valley in search of gold and never returned five years later in nineteen fifteen jorgensen. Cabin was found burned to the ground with his headless corpse laying on the ground nearby. A gun found along with the body suggested he taken two shots at someone or some. Unfortunately mounties didn't visit the crime scene until the summer of nineteen sixteen perhaps due to inclement weather after a year pertinent clues were hard to come by officials quickly dropped the case due to lack of evidence author in canadian historian pierre burton suggested jorgensen simply stumbled into some bad luck with a bear following this line of thinking then perhaps jorgensen cabin confired by accident. Then as he tried to douse the flames. The fires heat drew a bear out of the wilderness. Jorgensen then tried to outrun the animal and fired two shots in self defense before getting mauled. The bear then ripped his head off with its jaws as the animal trotted back into the forest jorgensen. Cabin burned to the ground in many respects. This explanation makes sense contrary to popular belief. Fire doesn't deter bears. It may actually them and bears have a history of killing humans. In northwest canada according to yellowstone national park rangers bears also don't typically feed on human flesh. This might explain. Why jorgensen body was left intact that said. The bear theory differed dramatically from the rumors. That ran wild through the prospect or community at the time. Well gathered around fires passing bottles of liquor. Frontiers men traded legends about. How jorgensen midst. Such a grisly end. Many suspected jorgensen had found the mcleod brothers legendary prospect and harvested its fabled gold and then was murdered by a rival or there could have been a copycat killer at the time of jordan's death everyone in the northwest territories knew about the macleod murders as savvy killer could have recreated the circumstances to generate confusion. Prospectors weren't the only ones to speculate. About johnson's death. The indigenous denny people suspected the warmongering honey tribe killed the frontiers men according to dinnie legend. And the honeyman stumbled upon jorgensen organs cabin sometime in nineteen thirteen. He found the quarters empty but stocked with meet the hungry man. gorged himself on the meuse. Flesh seasoning it with what he assumed was salt from that he found nearby but he was actually seasoning. His meal with crystalline strychnine. A toxin jorgensen kept on hand to poison the animals. He trapped after eating his fill. The man killed over and died. When jorgensen returned he found the honey dead in his cabin. Not knowing what else to do he disposed of the body. But soon the a hani's friends and family grew resentful over the death of their loved one and they blamed jorgensen one night. A pair of tribesmen snack out to jordan johnson's home to exact revenge. They murdered jurgensen and burned his cabin to the ground now. This version of the story offers no explanation for why. The murderers removed jurgensen skull. Perhaps the aggrieved noni simply felt a beheading was appropriate justice for their friend or like other theories have suggested maybe it was removed by a scavenging animal regardless the idea that a murderer set fire to jorgensen cabin resolves a logistical problem. With any theory which states his death was related to an accidental fire. If the blaze was an accident the fire should have ignited the forest around it but is someone intentionally set the cabin on fire. The could have stuck around long enough to extinguish it. this possibility. that jorgensen was murdered. Was the leading theory to explain his mysterious. Death prospectors likely gravitated to homicide for two reasons. First it preserved the narrative that the mcleod mine was still out there waiting to be discovered it offered them promise. Second in the danger was tangible. If both jorgensen and the macleod's died at the hands of men their deaths were preventable. Future treasure hunters could protect themselves from a threat. They understood it wasn't as if than a honey valley was cursed. My some inescapable malevolent force or was it in nineteen thirty. Two mounties discovered the remains of phil. Powers a trapper working off of flat river. In the noni valley all that remained of power. Shelter was ashes. Although powers charred bones were found in the wreckage. His skull once again was missing in the end. Investigators officially ruled powers death an accident. They blamed a faulty stovepipe in his cabin for starting the fire but powers peers. Couldn't believe the experienced outdoorsmen would be careless enough to construct a faulty stovepipe frontiers men dick turner once wrote about powers saying if a man of that caliber could make serious mistake in the bush. Then god help the rest of us and they were right to question the theory that powers death was an accident once again. They failed to explain the missing head. The mounties who examined the scene also found the two ceramic kettles had melted together in the blaze. It's unlikely that an accidental fire generated enough heat to liquefy ceramic especially a fire that left the surrounding forest untouched. An accident also doesn't explain why powers body was found inside his cabin unless he was fully incapacitated or dead when it ignited he should have been able to escape the fire as we discussed last episode all of powers valuable belongings including the first he collected for more than a year remained entirely undisturbed. The one thing missing from his stockpile gasoline all of powers cans were empty and on the side of his supplies. Someone nailed a piece of wood with a message penciled on it filled powers his finish august nineteen thirty two. This was well after the estimated date of powers death months after he was due to return to the lowlands to marry his fiancee. And right around the time his remains were discovered the plaque hearkens back to another handwritten message found near the site of the macleod brothers bodies. Charlie came upon a dog sled runner that read. We have found a fine prospect in context both sides can be seen as ironic warnings the macleod's and powers both enrich themselves off the resources in the hunter valley and they died shortly after they presumably obtain them. Charlie claimed that the message on the dog sled runner looked like it was in one of his brothers handwriting. But he could have been mistaken. Perhaps an unknown killer wrote both messages matt a fellow prospector or trapper. But someone or something. Whose only purpose was to protect the valley a force that viewed men like willie and frank mcleod martin jorgensen and phil powers as a catastrophic threat coming up the supernatural forces that may live in the noni valley. Now back to the story now. Honey valley has always had a reputation for peril but by the nineteen thirties. Four different frontiers. Men were found dead. Headless the danger was no longer a rumour legend or gut feeling. It was a pattern of violence. Though officials claimed the deaths were accidental. Many settlers and frontiers men blamed the murders on the reclusive noni tribe. A lack of information about the group fueled wild rumours and bolstered. they're already fearsome reputation at the time. The indigenous dinnie people reportedly told white settlers that the honey should be avoided at all costs. Some suspected the honey were related to the ancient tribe who according to denny legend delighted in torturing and robbing their lowland neighbors after the macleod murders. Investigators from the royal northwest mounted police attempted to follow up on these rumors. They scoured the river valley for any sign of the tribe but every time they got close. The indigenous people retreated further into the wilderness without tangible evidence to back up their suspicions. The mounties eventually directed their time and resources elsewhere and gave up to some the nones. Elusive behavior was an indication of guilt. But there's actually no hard evidence to prove the tribe had any hand in the deaths of powers jorgensen or the mcleod brothers in fact most reliable records of the no hani paint them in a positive light during an eighteen twenty three expedition. An explorer named john mcleod and a crew he put together ran into a group of fourteen. Honey tribesmen. john's name of pure coincidence. He had no relation to willie frank. Chances or the rest of their family to avoid confusion will refer to him by his first name. John was traveling with a few members from the slavery tribe who were initially reluctant to approach the hani but ultimately his team and then hani exchanged food and gifts in fact. The meeting went so well. They made plans to meet again the following year after his second exchange several honey reportedly accompanied john down the mountain to fort layered. He guided them through the settlements giving them their first taste of their world more than a century later in the winter of nineteen twenty nine. A. frontiers woman named raymond. Patterson went camping alone in deadman valley not far from where the clouds were murdered. This was after rumors. Abounded that the noni killed the brothers and later martin jorgensen as well as he camped patterson thought he was the only living soul for miles until one day. He saw shadow in his floor. He looked up and saw an hani leader standing in his doorway before patterson could move to defend himself eight other hani joined the man in the doorway outnumbered and terrified patterson invited them inside for t- luckily one member of the party spoke english. They accepted as patterson heated the water for tea. The interpreter explained that the group was on their way back from a hunting excursion. They drained patterson's teapot to the drags and seemed departed. The frontiersmen men mused on how little the men resembled the fearsome noni of legend then a heavy thud outside medium. Jump where he went outside. A gift was waiting for him. The noni left a parcel of moose meat and expression of gratitude for his hospital. These two encounters seemed to contradict the rumors that the hani were hostile. Let the only provide limited context after john mcleod's trip many more white settlers trappers and prospectors swarmed into hani valley. This influx could have inspired more territorial behavior even incited violence. But once again there's no hard evidence due to a lack of information. We don't know who exactly the honey were. They were so physically removed from denny and settler society that the honey could have been an umbrella term for all high altitude tribes rather than a single community historian wd addison theorized that because the mountainous land was so treacherous and unpredictable. It couldn't support a permanent population. Perhaps honey tribe wasn't a tribe at all but an amalgamation of nomadic indigenous people moving through the area. This could explain why reports of the nones temperament vary so greatly. It also means these nomads. Probably weren't the ones responsible for the headless frontiers. Men people travelling through an area. Even an area they visit regularly don't typically feel a sense of ownership over it. It's difficult to understand the motivation for a tenor and tribes to kill visitors. All four men were beheaded. After harvesting resources from the valley to shelters were burned with the fires carefully contained the possibility that different tribes managed to execute such similar crimes seems very unlikely ultimately the question of what role if any the honey played in the beheadings will never be answered. They're not around anymore. As far as researchers can tell the final members died in nineteen twenty nine victims of an influenza epidemic presumably brought on by white settlers and they weren't alone many more tribal languages and ways of life disappeared as white settlers and their diseases swarmed into indigenous territory so perhaps the hunt valley itself was the culprit. It acted as a last stand against that influx of european invaders when the indigenous people couldn't protect themselves. The valley fought back. There are many legends about noni valley bloodthirsty tribes vicious prehistoric animals human ape hybrids. Some aren't so specific but they all allude to a feeling of evil a creeping dread that wells up inside everyone who sets foot inside the valley according to visitors the most tangible evidence of this evil is the wind when the breeze blows through its craggy peaks the valley seems to vocalise it wales groans and shrieks to ward off those seeking to steal its treasures. Pierre burton wrote his own experience in the valley saying the wind began to wine almost like a living thing the banshee wail mid or hackles rise as this was without a doubt the spirit sound so many men talked and whispered about the win. Didn't just create hair-raising sounds it manipulated. The land bertans group found unnatural sculpted mounds of snow. As if a giant hand had shoveled the flakes aside they also came upon massive trees laying on their sides fully uprooted as if they've been plucked like tiny weeds will never know how four of its travelers lost their heads or whether the area is truly home to an evil spirit but to this day those who venture into noni valley fall asleep to the sound of wind howling in their ears. Perhaps hinting at an ancient evil will never understand. Thanks again. for tuning into unexplained mysteries. We will be back next time with a new episode for more information on the hunt valley amongst the many sources we used. We found the legends of the noni valley by emerson peter's extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of unexplained mysteries and all other spotify originals. from podcast. for free on spotify. See you next time and remember never take. We don't no for an answer. Unexplained mysteries is a spotify original. From podcast executive producers include max and ron cutler sound design by nick johnson with production assistance by ron shapiro carly madden and freddie beckley. This episode of unexplained mysteries was written by hannah macintosh with writing assistance by angela. Johnson and connor samson fact checking by adriana romero and research by brian beatrice unexplained mysteries stars. Molly brandenburg and richard rosner. Hi vanessa again before you go. Don't forget to check out. The new limited series criminal couples from elliptic cult leaders to bank robbing bandits to married mafiosos. These couples give new meaning to till death. 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11/05/2020 - Best of The Odd Couple

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

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11/05/2020 - Best of The Odd Couple

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Be sure to catch us. Live every weekday from seven pm to ten pm eastern four to seven pacific or fox sports radio. Find your local station for the odd couple at fox sports radio dot com or stream live every day on the iheartradio app by searching f s. Are you're listening to the best of the odd couple with chris. Bruce and rob harker arabize hyped about this game new orleans saints tampa bay buccaneers see. Who's the king of that division down there in the nfc but antonio brown. This is huge. I i mean. I think everybody's gonna be looking forward to see what he does. Bruce area says he's he might play ten plays. He might play thirty thirty five plays. We'll see but. I'm looking forward to san antonio brown back on the football field with tom. Brady here's what had to say about his connection to tb. Twelve tom my boy. When a greatest leaders to be arou- he's encouraging always inspiring a bring out the best. The people around. I want the best for everyone around him. Amazing credits quarterback tom noni. I've done in the past matter. And i just learned a lot from. He's been a guy in my corner and one of my close close friend. Go here up odd. Believe antonio brow feels that way because this guy has thrown him a life preserver to try to save his career. So i believe antonio brown is genuine and where he feels. But i am not buying that. Tom brady's janu wind when it comes to antonio brown and this is just my gut just watching this unfold watching tom brady bend over backwards for a guy who has done as many things possible to sabotage his own career. We all know how great a player is. Tom brady knows this. Tom brady antonio brown or the. Nfl's odd couple. They do not and not go together in any circumstance. Other than tom brady. Wants to use. Antonio brown's talent to try to better cement his legacy and where he fits in. It is not about saving antonio brown's life and all the other stuff it makes for great story. Look at tom reaching out for the don downtrodden. Ab and. Tom resurrected his career at tom. Let them stay at his house with his family. And yes so we can keep an eye on 'em. Tom brady wants to use his talent. That's what this is a con job. Say about eh being how this is about tom. Damn brady tom. What's to win so desperately he's made a deal with the devil and he's reading and he's written it while the idea of reaching back to get a guy who has already messed up a number of times already. Tom brady spoke out for him in new england. And it didn't last long and there's a chance that this could blow up in his face as well but thomas is gonna look at that that way he's looking at it. How can i stacked the deck. How can i help myself. look good. b. is a damn good would save a we all know that this dude was ticketed for the hall of fame and put together probably six of the best receiving years. We've ever seen for a guy in the nfl so we know where his talent is. And that's why back in the nfl. And yes tom. Brady's do one bruce. Arians would his b s. Tom brady had nothing to do with that. Would with them. Signing a abe boulder dash poppycock. Nonsense this is a tom brady production. But it ain't about a a and don't you ever forget that or get it twisted. This is about tom brady. This is about his legacy he will do whatever it takes even bringing in a questionable guy to live with his family and i'm gonna call him questionable for some of the stuff that he's done to live with his family so he can keep an eye on him and keep this guy eligible to play and help tom brady win it super bowl so that he can say it is me and it. A bill belichick. That's what this is about. This has nothing to do with a be. Well that was nice. That was impressive. I put a lot of time into that. I see you're proud of yourself very off your shoulders. I need a cigarette and some big oil outlook. I'll agree with you. That on the surface if you look at tom brady and antonio brown. It doesn't look like a natural fit. I'm alex views right. But here's the thing and i'll even give you this route. Are there some. I hesitate to call him selfish. Because i don't mean it in a negative way. But i'll use it. 'cause i can't think of another word right now. Are there some selfish motivations. And what tom brady is doing yeah. I would imagine so. But they're selfish. Motivations it what virtually everybody does the tampa bay buccaneers want. Tom brady wanted painting fifty million. Why because they got some selfish motivations. They thought he could help win. The super bowl. That's why that's the league. that's no leagues. i only want you notice it constantly. And you're right. They bring in all lights of questionable characters. You can't get colin kaepernick in nfl. But you can get wife beaters and you know getting drug all these types of guys. Why because the coach the gm other players got selfish ambitions. I'm not going to dismiss what you said in that regard. But i'm also not gonna kill tom brady for being like most people i all. I do think to rob now again. I'm not saying he just has some fun nece for ab and he's just loves abc. And that's his boy. How could he be. How well can they even know each other. Let's keep it real right and it's not going to be the connection like a lebron james carmelo anthony when they both grew up in the hood in tough situations you know and they got their bothering you against each other and we're in the same draft. The next eight is knowing that other each other that well just the background. They're both black in a in a country. That's been historically races. They both came up hard in the hood. I get that. We don't have that here. But i will say this brady loved randy. Moss brady wanted chad johnson. Brady when it had corey dillon. Brady you play football chris. Life you're going to be around brothers you know that you might not have had a similar upbringing to him but they get teammates to know him is race and you bond. That's i think. That's all this is i don't i don't give thing a different than those guys. You mentioned. and what randy moss and do anything on the scale not a retail in what. He does viewed as a problem player. You got with corey dillon. And john reid at this not a word what we're in the league. I don't remember reading. But i'm just saying they still you're right. They didn't they weren't nearly. I mean he's been accused of being a criminal. That's well okay. I'm just saying like be then did not on that level all that but they were also guys. You would look at robin say. What in the world do they have in common is a guy named guys here and they're already brady. Tom brady already. Tom brady went went to bat. In new england showed up and had a cup of coffee in his suite right in new england. It worked no mislaid. Tom brady because he wants the great player. Know what i apologize for that. I just don't think that he has a bs. Best intentions at hand. This is about tahoe. Eighty s the argument. I'll have his best not give you. That brady is a lot of is he's looking at. Hey this is a great guy. That can help us win. No doubt helped him win. His team know about tom brady. It's about him you would ask you. That's your opinion about him trying to win the super bowl for himself and his team is so about you. Yeah is this show about me. Yeah but i also want us to thrive as a team. You act like everybody. Else's mother theresa. Because tom brady wants to get the shine from wynona seven super bowl. He's to be castigated. The other thing i let. I don't care how much i want to get out of dude. If i don't trust him to some degree if i don't like him to some degree he ain't living in my crib he's just not and so. I just think that shows. I think he generally has a found this more. Nothing special nothing. There's no great by near. But i think he generally must have some type of fondness. Let him stay in his house. You would you do that. I just think he needs to watch him. And he's shorted. He could get through the season and that that's my own not for the whole season. Well until he gets his wall. I just think that that's what it is. So they could get through that and what was on could be for a beat to. If that's what needs. I mean it's i hope you don't need that as a grown man but his past is shown that maybe he could benefit from something like this. So you know it's a good. It's an interesting point you make. I just think you know everybody's got some selfish motives. I'm not gonna kill. Tom brady or any other player for saying. This dude is great. He can help us win. Let's get you may here. And i'll try my best to work what brian's say about jr smith. I got him. I know call types of problems. I guide him be short. Catch live editions of the odd couple with chris broussard. 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I mean it just was terrible and he was making a point route about harbaugh going back to nfl. And i'm gonna i'm gonna. He had two parts. One is how successful harbaugh was in the nfl. But even still there are some many executives in the league that don't think he's really a hot commodity illegal. Let me read a few things he didn't. Nfl and then give you a couple of quotes from these executives and then you can You can respond rob you know. He won seventy percent of his games in his four seasons in the nfl. Us in san francisco. Of course that's the fifth best. Winning percentage in nfl history. I wonder how all the four one championships. He probably the only one who didn't not only did he reach the play offs three of those for years. He reached the nfc championship games twice and or three times and won it once was got to the super bowl once and he's the first nfl head coach to have reached the conference championship game in each of his first three seasons. So he did great stuff. We know you know. Alex smith was resurrected under him. Colin kaepernick became a star under him. He had a great four years. No matter how you slice it the last year wasn't very good but the first three were tremendous even so though rob pete them will ask the people around the league you know would teams just be falling over themselves to get a chance to get horrible back. Here's one executive said or one source. I just don't hear his name out there anywhere. I would be surprised if it happens being. And if he came back to the league another longtime. Nfl executive said it's a legitimate question. He can't quite get. It fixed their michigan when you leave a place in the nfl. If you have any scars they'll get you. And when he left san francisco it was scorched earth. And that is the truth. Rob so What are your thoughts. I think some of the luster has fallen off over. Jim harbaugh and i think you know. Even at unnamed executive saying you know couldn't get it turned around at michigan. That's you know. People are saying well never won a championship. So you can't blame it on. Jim harbaugh but i think that's a failure on his part. They see he went there. He was supposed to go to turn that around saying chris. He won't get another job because retreads a popular and they're guys who they feel comfortable with. But i do agree that you know word also gets around with how you leave how you treat people on the way out. You know what i mean owners talk. He's a bad guy orders. I'm just saying what they could say. Depending on what went down in san francisco pay. He was unprofessional. He did this. He did dad. He sabotaged our scouting department. Whatever it is you know what i mean like that stuff follows you so do i think you'll get another chance ya think you'll get another chance because he played in the nfl. He has a lot of nfl friends. Do i think he'll get another shot. Yes is his star as bright as it was when he's with the forty niners. I don't think so. I think when you look at jim harbaugh now. A little bit. Some of the luster resolve san francisco. That was six seven six years ago. It's been it's been a minute. What did he was fantastic. No i get that. i said i remember. They were six in tin just the year before he went to san francisco yes but certainly also with the last year and i my point is it's not like they went to ruins and they never got their day dago to ruins. Nobody turned around. But it's not like it was twenty years later like he had a lasting effect at once he left. I think they started to rebuild because they started to change stuff but they went back to the super bowl within five years. I think that's pretty good for franchise that was on a high wind. It got to a super bowl once had a chance but didn't win it and so it shows you that it wasn't just jim harbaugh. Who turned san francisco around that it can be done. And it's not all about him and i'll give you a grade executives. But he definitely turned him around. I'll give you the the apple. Jimmy johnson with the dallas cowboys right. I was since jimmy's been gone. You can say whatever you want. Anyone is usable without him his players. That was the steel. They just saying they still have to do that after that them done anything. They haven't even been to an nfc championship game. Twenty five years okay. I'm just saying. I don went to miami and didn't do that much but i'm saying dallas had never recovered from jimmy johnson. Dallas hasn't my point. Is jim harbaugh. We'll get a job. Because like i say he knows enough people and and that's what they do in that league. If they feel comfortable your friends they all higher each other. It's it's in central list. Is it in sestri. Concession was the centralists thank you But i'm just saying. I i don't think he's the hot commodity where someone would just one out and say. Oh i have to have jim harbaugh. Well i agree with that but there's no doubt that a little of china has been taken off because he just has he's been okay pretty good at michigan but he was paid to do more than that. There's no doubt about it and he hasn't done it so yes a little shine is off. But i don't think if he got a job in the nfl it would not be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a little factor. But i wouldn't write this off as oh. This is a retread. This is the old boy network. Jim harbaugh was good san francisco but you know that a retread is somebody that is is good at their job and did a great job. The last stop. I don't write off a it. You know i think that was you if i'm gonna nfl team. But i'm talking about guys you coming. In my coach. I feel pretty good. Yeah but you could. Also there could be guys who get hired. And i'm not saying but but a lot of it has to do with who they know and the good old or yes. It doesn't it doesn't mean that not qualify. But i'm saying why they hire him because they feel comfortable with him. And i'm saying he's done it i would think it. I think they'd the i think there are retreads. Who don't deserve the job. I mean we both know that. Not just retrieves but new coaches to who shedding dantonio retread. He's had a lot of success. I consider him a retread. You didn't get the job either. Why didn't he get a job. he's an you know. He's an assistant with the nets. No i know. But i'm saying you love. I think that was a great hire. Why didn't he get a job. Those show philly wanted him. They were going to hire him until doc rivers became available. I i again. I was now there are jobs. I don't think. Mike d'antoni would be good at certain teams. But if i have the team the personnel. Yeah i wanna might. I don't care how many places coach he's a good coach and in certain situations. So i think with this. Of course guys hire people are comfortable with but if you hire jim harbaugh. I don't think anybody can write. That off is what in the world is this. How does do get the say that okay. I'm just. I'm just saying he. He he would desert totally deserving. He's at more than jim harbaugh. I know but but the age and how long he's been out is in check near and seventy now. So i'm like that we're house is rob fun. How say he's sixty six or sixty eight. He might sixty six. Tony larussa seventy six. Chris i mean and what's wrong. Yeah bella checks sixty eight sixty s what. I'm gonna give larussa chance. I actually hope he brings old school. Forget you will. Don't forget the analytics. But del cais put them in their place. Put them in their place. Anyway i like. I said i i i could see harbaugh getting in nfl. Job barabbas mercedes and jim harbaugh fifty six. We have brady quinn on yesterday. Who's talked with harbaugh. He comes close with hall with hawking. He kind of gave her some that. This might be his last coaching job. Had i am happy there and you know. Of course he grew up in ann arbor and he played for michigan. He was born in nearby toledo. So i would say this to jim harbaugh and we talked about it. And it's rare if not. It rarely ever happens. But you know my thing with a michigan. I'm saying look. We're not giving you an extension right now but you got a year left on your deal. Coach it out and we go okay. His ego might not allow him to accept it. But i would say this to jim harbaugh if you are happy being home if you are happy being at your alma mater and i can't even say i get do wanting to challenge right you fifty six years old. You made it to the nfl played. He made a pro bowl. Even as a player you coached. You didn't win the super bowl but you got there you know. Now you're at michigan. And so i can't even say you know you're at a stage where you don't need that challenge because you still the challenge before you at michigan is great as the challenge would be in the nfl so you have your happy in your hometown. You're happy at your alma mater and your competitive juices can be fired up because you got to try to get this team to beat ohio state and become the class of the big ten and winning national championship. That's all the challenge. you need. Not what jim harbaugh. If you're happy there. If i don't know him but if you're happy there don't let them saying look. We're not gonna pay you eight million dollars. We'll pay you five or six dollars. Don't let that stop you from staying there. If you're happy that's what i would say to. Only problem is when you continue to fail talk. It isn't as much fun to be around eur in ann. Arbor people whispering. He ain't the guy he should be gone. You know what i'm saying. They're like like that stuff starts to you know like you. Don't get to rescue. When i came to town to the restaurants. Oh yeah come on coach. We got you. You know what i mean. It's like a a good feeling people off feeling like that right now. I mean that's not what online. That's a right and i hear you on that. I hear you on that. I think that makes some sense. But here's the other we talked about. I mean both becker. Boeckler has a statue. He's got a whole football workout facilities named after him and he's the statue in front. He never wanted national championship. But the only difference. Chris a must stop you back then. It wasn't it was a mythical and it was narrowing mythical. No i get that. But it was different back then but he used to always win the big ten right. He always wanted to make tens but he will him and ohio state. They wanted big ten woody hayes and but right and that's the difference is like jim doesn't even have one big ten times. He's never won the big ten. Here's what about this dome in your. That's a good point. You're right i mean. Obviously they feel a little differently about him now but do you think i mean dishes alma mater. Leave if he left after this season and let's face it he would leave essentially as a failure. We can talk about some success. Were pretty good. They were relevant again. But it would you would leave your tail between your legs right right. That would bother you if you're him. Yeah but how long do you stick around until they fire you. Do you see what. I'm saying chris. There's another part and see that's kind of what you've got to find out right. Those that think they wouldn't fire. You know what i mean. Yeah everybody cave in everybody can be filed everybody can be traded. Some of the greatest players ever traded. Or whatever right. I'm just saying like dig about be interesting. I if i'm him. Then i would probably wanna find that out fox. Sports radio has the best sports. Talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at fox. Sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live to lending the gelato clear jar that you've seen around but sometimes the name escapes your tongue with five dollars. 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It's more important than ever for women to say what they deserve. I deserve airpods is what she said. Mika switch to wti today and get more from your soap and check out new episodes of pd scrip every thursday hideous group available. Iheartradio apple podcasts. or wherever. you get your podcasts. Ladies and gentlemen. Vegans and meat ax ship lovers. Rubble chip lovers. It's time this game for tight. Shirts towel trivial. that's right. It is titrate tower of trivia the game designed to prove. You don't have to even like sports to work in sports media now. This game is kind of like a mash up of the old game shows. You like this rob pyramid and password. Okay i got ten sports questions all missing one word a one word answer. You guys eat to help. Alex get it right okay. So if i say. For example. Kobe bryant played his entire career. For which team chris rob. You'll be able to give one word clues to alex to help him get right. Okay okay. Whoever going native rules what you can't you not use the exact word. Obviously kim yes okay and so each round is gonna take one point away so the first crack if he gets it on the first time. It's worth ten points. If the next one goes to rob nine points in that occurs eight points. But if you don't get it by the fourth time seven point that we just move onto the next question okay easy enough where you guys rob you feel like you look you kinda like trivial pursuit kind of not trivial pursuit. Taboo taboo okay. Yes yes okay. I think. I think you're gonna get it but we're we're gonna try it anyway all right so again. Alyssa's know anything about sport. He doesn't know any idea so i flipped a coin during the day and chris. You're going to get the first crack at the first question. All right so you all you all the questions and the actors in front of you except for alex. Email it to you you should know what anyway all right in the nba. Chris if a player's with a technical foul the opposition gets to shoot. How many free throws chris. You're gonna give alex. One word clue ono. Is that close. I'm gonna go with one on that one. Let's go really easy with ten points craze. Now we can do that differ like maybe next. I will switch it up. I didn't get your email before the debut episode will let it slide. Maybe next time we will make it that easy. All right number two rob you're up first in the nfl. The defence forces the safety. How many points do they get. Get a one word clue. One word clue who can get another one. No you gotta give an answer. What the question is how many what did you say. How many points do you get for. A safety on rallied. The question trying to get the answer for you. How well you say. Okay hold on hold on. Let me use. Rob parker analogy here. Poo poo king. You say twice. i'm go to. Let's go ahead. It's go wrong gold dove. Yes applebee's right now a little bit harder. Our second level item right back to chris. In baseball the batter hits a ball. That is outside the field of play. It's called a blank ball And i know they use one word one word Only one word what word come on. Jason smith is waiting up here. Hack for some reason keep thinking of fowler fair save foul terrible blue like that was terrible. I was going to say well we're going to. I mean i was gonna say. I was gonna say chicken i would have said chicken off. There's no way he would have got tie shirt salary up twenty two. It's okay plenty of time question number four the goat or the alleged. Tom brady was famously. Selected in which round of the nfl draft route park in. One word clue what she got. Okay so i can't say blank something no got to be one word one word out here. Okay pack think about what hold on. There's usually six right. That is correct. Chris let's go say that was a good clue back. Rob rob can. He can only say pack. He can't be think about think about what advocates. When i was trying to figure out i know a those games they say blank so and so do you know what i mean like so i was wondering if i could save games. He's talking about we know again. This is the first time the we'll figure this out as we go on elaborations. I can't say with confidence. Alex did not know at least two of these and if it were not for good clues so good job by you guys. Cb i feel like i can fill in for when you guys now. This is good all right question number five. Basset is in front of me. We're on the next tower. Mookie betts just want his fifth straight blank glove award usually given to the best fielding player. Oh god their position a o. Read that question again. Raji mookie betts. She's got his three straight blank glove award Only use one word foale dinnie full performance. Rob go for nine points now. Nine points ready. I'm ready rob. What you got for me silver. Okay hold on hold. No no no rob kaby now. One word one word. After the second time they will read the question again. Alex one word blank glove. You said silver gold that gold glove. Let's go so rob is leading. And he gets a chance to put some distance. He's up. i again come on. Let's go shack. Rob's up first shock and dwight howard were both drafted first overall by the orlando blank notify. Listeners are like that boy got got. Let's see let's say Tragic feel like you're trying to give me rhyme here rob. You already knew. Because that's a horrible clue. No way no way come on. That's interesting you got three seconds alley. Know what. I'm saying. James unwrap yes. Come on alex you on the right track. You still don't think over giving people to wine. Okay wow why didn't he make a guest on me here we go. Allie clue denial houdini. Okay magic let's go ahead. What what. Allocution noah team is name is not tragic so we'd have to roast with it. Yeah this this is getting a little. This is it. This is the championship. Heart level former supersonic superstar shawn. Kemp used to be known as the blank man. Chris you're up. Firstly a storm storm storm quiet. An aunt buzzer is an we go my bad precipitation. Alex stone over thank you. What is what's facilitation for next time. One word this situation splash. And so i get to go again back to chris. Repeating the question. One question hold on supersonic superstar shawn camp used to be known as the blank man. Puddles get my music ready. Get my nosy. You know it crispy quite a quite all your minds. Mike during this segment three seconds five three come on to suit wine. I'm wearing the last one of these random time. Parker one word clue now. Think about all the let words that he already go who y'all really addicts allergists pain. Take any other clues just sit puddles five using my hits to feel bad for this no more asian and how did not get paid for snow. Is that trump is a chair with a long history. 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Mac OS Ken: 12.15.2020

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Mac OS Ken: 12.15.2020

"This is mac os. ken analysts. Look at iphone in china. A slew updates from apple and early surprises for fitness. plus it's tuesday the fifteenth of december. Twenty twenty nine. Ken ray and this is news. From mac os. Ken brought to you by yours. Truly and sponsored by head space. Meditation made simple. Get a free one. One-month trial at head space dot com slash mecca west. Can this show is also sponsored by mac. Pau mayors of clean my mac. Axe your mac as good as new. Clean my mac access all in one cleaning and optimizing software for your mac. Clean my mac x. D. cutters your mac and runs maintenance scripts to keep your max performance at its peak iran. Smart scan yesterday. That were fifteen. Point one megabytes in my trash. Ben which smarts can left in the ben because i like to manage my trash can myself smart scanner smart enough to see it but leave it alone if i tell it to it also found one point nine gigabytes of system junk is it refers to it. 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They're the most bullish of the notes noted by philip elmer dewitt apple three okay from ever court analyst dairy noni according to what he's seeing the iphone line there's pulling apple out of its september quarter slump in china which suffered from a lack of new iphones not only have the weights for iphone twelve pro lengthened over the past months. There are newer phones than that to take into account at rock said he and his expect iphone. Demand remained stronger four longer given that the release of the iphone. Twelve many and pro. Max should provide a second leg of demand. All of this is beating the rest of china smartphone. Market quoting his note. The broader chinese smartphone market remains challenge with shipments down seventeen percent but multinational read. Apple shipments. Were up ninety. Five percent significantly outperforming the broader market. The data set includes shipments broken down by domestic versus multinational companies. Now when he suggests reading apple and multinational as synonymous that's because he figures iphone accounts for more than ninety percent of china's multinational. Smartphone shipments has not performed rating on apple shares. His price target on the shares is one hundred thirty five dollars at the end of apple. Sentiment spectrum is goldman sachs analyst rod hall. A piece from apple insider had hall commenting on iphone in china in a note to clients. I spend a good bit of friday's mac os. Ken live talking about why i focus on analysts in general and why i pay attention to hall and his like in particular and let me tell you. I am now questioning that focus. Here's what apple. Investors would probably see as good news according to authorities in china while smartphone shipments were down fifteen percent last month versus the same month a year earlier. International brands aka apple were up ninety nine percent. So where's the trouble in rod. Halls had adding september october and november of last year hall figures apple ship. Fourteen point five million units adding those same three months this year whole figures apple shed fourteen point five million units thus the numbers flat and so began the bad tidings except for the part where september of this year had no new iphones with one of the three months in question spent pushing year old phones. Apple still matched. Last year's performance not to be a nudge but wouldn't a fair comparison be september november of two thousand nineteen versus october through december of twenty twenty. But who has time to wait quoting his note. And our opinion the overall market weakness that we continue to see china be beginning to translate into higher end demand stagnation at apple. We also note that lower end market strengthened. China is important for absorption of refurbished secondhand iphones which could have a negative effect on device resale pricing and the trade in value that new iphone buyers experience hall has a cell rating on apple shares and the price target of seventy five dollars. Apple closed yesterday at one hundred twenty one dollars and seventy eight cents. One more from wall street in the middle of the sentiment spectrum says ubs analyst david vote apple three dot ran part of a vote note monday which had the analyst seeing marked improvement for iphone twelve in china versus iphone eleven. That said he is worried. That demand for apple's latest is softening here in the states. According his note in china availability remains tight with the iphone. Twelve pro at about twenty six days while the iphone twelve pro. Max is about twenty days. We estimate iphones accounted for roughly seventeen percent to nineteen percent of total smartphone sales in china during the year ago quarter however based on our analysis of availability data and checks in china we believe strengthen china could result in almost a fifty percent year over year increase an iphone units sold in china in the december quarter but us pro max and pro availability suggest a man might have pete that new surprise me so i did that thing. I usually do when to apple's online store to check availability of the iphones. I want if i wanted to get an unlocked. Pacific blue one hundred twenty eight gigabyte iphone twelve pro from apple. I'd be waiting until the first or second week of january. However i could have the same phone iphone twelve pro max delivered to me tomorrow where i could drop around the shop and pick one up which is interesting. Monsieur has a neutral rating on apple shares. His price target on the shares is one hundred fifteen bucks a follow up to the trouble in india and iphone production. I told you yesterday of rioting at a wistron plant on the subcontinent workers. There reported to have smashed glass and burn signs protesting a lack of promised payment now. A piece from apple insider says apple has halted production at that plant while it investigates whether wistron has violated guidelines overstaff pay and working conditions highlighting reuters reports. The peace had apple sang that has teams on the ground and it has immediately launched a detailed investigation that westerns nara sapporo facility. Apple is also cooperating with local police. According to the report if you wish you had hit the buy button on a pair of airpods max last week you may have one more option. Yesterday in the states was today in australia and new zealand. I'm more a piece that strange strange time between saying that pre-ordered pairs were out for delivery in the countries and that some stores in australia hadn't unit in stock. It's not that apple stores in new zealand. Didn't it's just that. There are no apple stores in new zealand as for. Its bigger neighbour. I'm more cited a piece from macrumors. That said apple stores and australia have appeared to have a limited amount of airpods max stock available for in store. Pickup based on a spot check most locations in australia appeared to have less popular silver and space gray models available in store perhaps though not less popular than nothing of course just mohsen down to an apple store is not advisable in hashtag these uncertain times. If you want to try your luck. I'm more suggests checking the day to see whether in store pickup is available near you more news in a moment but first a word from head space. Meditation made simple device started a meditation regimen yet. I have not. 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One-month trial with access to head spaces full library of meditations for every situation. This is the best deal offered right now. Head to head space dot com slash. Moco west ken today. And thanks to head. Space for sponsoring. Today's show huge day for apple gear. Updates monday cult amac rennick quake hit on the major releases for iowa's fourteen three the peace. Apple's released note saying i o. s. fourteen dot three include support for apple fitness. Plus and airpods. Max this release also adds the ability to capture photos and apple pro raw on iphone. Twelve pro introduces privacy information on the app store and includes other features and bug fixes for your iphone notes for ipad. os fourteen thousand three were essentially identical. According to the report big sur got its big update in the form of mac. Os eleven dot one. Apple's release note say the update includes support for airpods. Max tv app enhancements apple news widgets and privacy information on the app store to release also includes bug fixes for your mac but no one else's mac just yours don't tell. The others largely focused on apple fitness plus watchos seven to brought a bit more than including support for braille displays and new low cardio fitness notifications. The piece from end gadget goes a bit deeper on that. According to that site with watchos seven two and ios fourteen dot three users can now check to see if they're cardio fitness is high above average below average or low as compared to people in the same age group and the same sex. This data is drawn from the fitness registry and importance of exercise national database or friend. The app will also show them if they're cardio. Fitness is improved or not over a period of time. Users can decide if they want the app to notify them if they're cardio fitness has fallen into a low level in which case it will also offer some guidance on improving their cardio fitness and talking to your doctor as for tv os fourteen dot. Three cult of mac simply says that it brings tweaks to the apple. Tv set top boxes not sure. Why the call gibbs that one so little love. I mean even if apple's nodes don't say so we know that the update brings support for fitness. Plus you know. Go out on that limb. I mean that seriously sturdy lamb all of the updates are free each there's available in the usual way now. Some of apple's older devices got an important update on monday as well. Apple insider says apple released. Ios twelve dot five on monday with one apparent purpose fighting the spread of covid nineteen according to the report. The update brings the then exposure notification system to older iphone models that actually also provide security patches. That patch known vulnerabilities in flaws in the previous update indication. And the report is that yesterday's update will bring the apple. Google contact tracing exposure notifying. Api to older model apple devices like iphone. Five s iphone six iphone six plus and the sixth generation ipod touch that update is also free and it is also available in the usual way one of the most famous taglines of the apple ages. It just works so it's always notable when it doesn't just work stories of a few surprises tied. The mondays release of apple fitness plus was a good surprise. The rest probably annoying for those who experience that most start with the good one. If you wanna use apple's new fitness offering but don't have an apple watch a piece for my download bog says you can't while apple has said that you have to have an apple. Watch to make the fitness plus thing happen. It looks like they're talking about the full fitness pas. Experience in other words you can watch videos and exercise along. Of course you can start those videos from your apple watch since you don't have one stats also won't show up on the screen from your apple. Watch again because you don't have one according to i download blog if you open the fitness plus app on your iphone but don't have an apple watch. The phone will prompt you to work out without the apple watch. I tried that on both my iphone and my ipad with my apple. Watch off of course and got the same prompt funny enough. I could not do the same thing on my apple tv. The digital living room device wanted to know if it was me working out. When i said yes at wanted me to that on my apple. Watch when i changed it and said it. Was somebody else heading fitness plus. It wanted them to confirm the workout on their apple. Watch and that may bring us to our first unpleasant surprise. Wanna work out with the big screen but don't have an apple. Tv apple has an answer for you and that answer is tough. Actually the answer is probably get an apple tv another piece from my download. Blog says if you have a tv that supports airplane. You planned on using that to display apple fitness. Plus on your big screen. There may be an issue. The peace as a macrumors reader tried to use airplay stream to their l. g. t. v. which supports airplay from their iphone but it wouldn't work. I download bog tried as well and met with a similar result. Disappointing is not being able to get the service on the big screen may be. At least you'll have the relatively big ipad screen unless you don't the piece for my more says. Some people had trouble getting fitness plus onto their ipads on monday. That site also cited a piece from macrumors quoting that on the ipad. The fitness up isn't installed automatically and must be downloaded from the app store. Unfortunately when attempting to download the app ipad users are running into an error message that says this op requires specific features not available on this device. One i more stopford did experience that problem as well on an ipad pro no less conversely the author of the. I'm more peace found. The fitness app was automatically installed on his fourth generation ipad air when he updated iowa's fourteen dot three. If you're having a similar issue not being able to get fitness up on your ipad. I'm more suggests simply restarting your ipad. One reader says that worked for them. The last unpleasant surprise takes us from not being able to get the app to not being able to get it for free another piece from my more says the three month trial that people who bought an apple watch since september. Were supposed to get isn't showing up for some of those people. Some users are complaining that they only have the opportunity for a one month free trial. According to the peace one month it points out is the standard free trial period that anybody can try if you're having that problem no word yet on an automatic fix. I'm more suggest contacting apple. Which i'm sure we'll make apple happy with more and finally today one more big date from apple on monday. Seen that says apple's privacy focused nutrition labels have gone live in apple's app store these labels that let people know what data an opera quests before you hit the download button says the info is presented in two categories data linked to you and data used to track you. You may not see the labels on every app yet. The on another side said that apple will not remove apps that don't supply info for the labels however those developers will not be able to update their apps until they supply such information coming up in a few minutes jailbreaker from way back today an ios host. Rob walsh joins me to talk about the recently launched lawsuit by a- against apple. 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MTV The Challenge: Total Madness Season 35 Ep. 9

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MTV The Challenge: Total Madness Season 35 Ep. 9

"Hey It's alley and I'm Leah and we're sisters who love watching the challenge together and this is the girlfriends guide to the challenge. Welcome to spill it sister. Hey Hey everyone. Welcome back to spill sister. Podcast you're here with Alli and Leah. Welcome back to the challenge edition. Total madness episode nine eight. What are we on nine? Oh my gosh. That means we're about halfway through the season folks. I know it's been a really good season. It's been so good I'm not GonNa lie going into it. I was like I am not about this dark like in times. This is just not the mood that we'd need with the Liberal World Pandemic. We have going on right now right. I resisted not here for it. And you know even like you know we were missing car and Paulie and like we just love to hate them. I'm like where's the drama GONNA be And boy was I wrong. A yeah it is spend like. There's just been so many good one. Liners EVERYBODY'S COMING. Good with the snarky commentary like the backstabbing strong. This episode. I know what agree titled Just so simple. Yes title of this episode Backstabber. Because everyone was just backstabbing each other left and right. I know what would you have social media updates we do? Oh with the happy I that Melissa had her baby cute. She is adorable. She's gorgeous like black hair Yoann. She was almost nine pounds poor. Melissa she is not a like Melissa. Small Yeah. She ended up having to have a C. Section. Because the baby was so big wrong. Well I'm glad he's out and she's healthy. Did we get a name? I can't go there no name. She hasn't yet update today. That you know it's just been kind of sad because they're in the hospital and nobody can come visit them because the corona virus and she had like Acute Simba moment with her dad by the hottest little windows that he could see the baby But you can tell she's just so in love and she says that perfect mommy glow. So how and that tough little baby. I know who went through that really ice cold water that we get to see this like please be sent home because it's making me so nervous everytime she does anything I'm like. Oh my God. She's pregnant like obviously we know. Everything's okay now but it just gives me an like. She didn't know which did kind of see a moment. This episode I was like they have had a girl not no but we'll get to it An then in not so great news you know last week. We joked about bear posting an instagram story about the cops being in his front yard. And we really. Why were they? There will allegedly bear was arrested. Yeah because he allegedly assaulted his now ex girlfriend who he thought or caught or whatever cheating. Am Yeah so the mirror is a UK thing right yeah it's a UK news news outlet. They posted that he was arrested on suspicion of actual body. Harm after row with girlfriend. After what with girlfriend row row row. Row your boat like our W as not a British thing. I don't know I really try not to sound uneducated this moment but I have no idea so we have any UK listeners. Please feel free to send me a D. N. A. Let me know what that means? I've never heard of such a thing. The exact article says big brothers Stephen Bear arrested on suspicion of actual which I mean. It's like what else is there besides actual bodily harm after row with girlfriend in K. Lots of weird word choice in there but what we do know that. Apparently he has been accused of physically harming a woman. And that's just so not okay with me and I mean obviously it's all alleged at this point if it ends up being true. Starry bear thought you were funny. Thought you were cute for a long time. But you're going to be on my shit list and we're not going to be cool anymore. Right. I mean it does that like I've read the article. It doesn't say anything like that would eliminate him. You know it's just like a talks about the video. It shows stills from the video that we all saw on Instagram. It kind of gives us you know the wording of what he said. Would you be angry if your girlfriend fucked up? Someone else? Brother and policemen said not. My place may keep going on and on But it doesn't say like we don't see any reports that I mean I don't know how they do it in the UK. His Emmy here we can Buick report and see what it said. You know. That's so true and it's like I just don't understand like if he was being arrested in that moment was he really filming the police while he was arrested. I just I have so many questions. I need to know more details so I'm sure we'll get more details as time goes on but I hope that his ex girlfriend is okay. I hope you didn't actually harm her Bet If he did then by Felicia you're on the shit list. Why right along with Rogin? You're actually below Rogan. If rounded like total piece of shit if he actually hit her so I don't know we'll have to see. Yeah I don't know what would have to wait to see what else comes out. I mean there's nothing that gives me any little breadcrumbs to go off of here. We got what we got. We'll keep you updated as we get more information yet but other than that on. The last thing that I had is Josh has come out and said that there was more to the fight with Swaggie that we didn't see he's like Lenin fortunate that that's the part that you got and D. Call him a liar on twitter and says that that's not true. And then Josh took the social media did like alive and said you know I apologize watching it. Back and reflecting on these are some things. I shouldn't have already apologize. You know now apologizing again after watching myself on TV. So I think he took the high road right. I mean he could have easily been like fuck you. Yeah after defending I defending himself saying but I'm sorry like okay. That's kind of like a half ASS APOLOGY. But whatever Yeah I mean he didn't come off good but I guess we'll get to that when we get to that. The other little thing that I saw recently was that Jenny came out instead that she really felt like her. Indie were good friends in the House and basically that it actually really hurt her. Like what you saw on. Tv Her being hurt by how D- was backstabbing. Her was truly how she felt. Just Kinda doubling down on. That and response was kind of like you're right you have and she says we're like you have lots of friends who love you. Kiss Kiss something like that. And I'm like hell that mean. It was weird because she also said in another tweet. You're cool but you're not mattie what that means I don't ever I just feel bad for jenny like she just so sweet. I just don't know how you could double cross Jenny. She is just the sweetest. I agree and I knew that she was hurt. That it was genuine. You could just see on her face So I did a quick little instagram poll. And ask what people thought about D and if she should tone it down a little bit or if she should do her and The results were unanimous. It was ninety three percent that she needs to take it down a notch. Like do you D- okay. I don't know who that seven percent is but I mean they're while they're here for the feistiness of it all. I thought the other pull you did was interesting about the whole Josh versus Swaggie. Where ends up on that so as of right now sixty seven percent are in favour of Swaggie see and Bailey which let me just say I really think that is mainly everybody being scared obey lead like just going to put it out there looking at the poll like everyone who voted against them and Joshua's thirty three percent. That's so interesting. 'cause I mean I will say for this one specific APP assode? I was not on team Josh. But I wasn't necessarily on teams wagging and Bailey. Either I would. I'm on team Bailey. I wasn't on team Swaggie. I felt like swaggie active. Full this episode two more. So Josh Josh your so was up on the bar acting like a crazy head I overall I don't feel like I'm more on Swaggie and Bailey Side I. I'm neutral in this situation because I felt like they were both wrong. It was both a stupid argument. Yeah and I felt like obviously we don't know what argument was left out. But based off of what we see in that scene it was almost like. Swaggie just made a comment to rip the band aid off and see if Josh would say something to him because he knew that it was already on shaky ground okay while Lemme provoke him. Poke the bear. And if he doesn't do anything then we'll be fine but if he does then at least I know where I stand with That's how I took it. Yeah I could see that which is just not a smart thing to do but he was just full of not smart decisions this entire episode. So and they called the flipside. Josh Nick thrown his drink on swaggie like who know swag news literally walking away from him in was keeping. I mean up to that point. Swaggie was keeping his voice low guy he was saying but Joshua's what was the one. Yelling acting like a maniac throws is drink on him like it was just not a good look. Yeah so I thought they were both in the wrong. I wasn't going to side with either one but I wanted to see how everybody else took it definitely well. Let's go ahead and jump into the episode. If you're ready I am so ready all right. We're postal emanation and we just lost to be loose last episode my short term memory all on my get wiring. Doreen. Calm down. We lost Jordan and bear. Yes we lost Jordan and bear last episode and we have West in. Kyle just like Pailin around be besties. I was like what's this about. Yeah and you know fancy is kind of gloating a little bit amongst in Little Guy Group which I'm curious. Are we seeing an alliance form here? Is he like? Oh yeah going to like replace hunter and the ty B.'s Nelson Corey Fussy Giannis see Mattie China's. Hey she's basically trying to align with anyone she can this episode you see her sneaking in to like hang out with a little groups here in there and I'm like come on girl you gotta get yourself a in the door. Let's go yet. And it's made very clear that she's not really wanting to be aligned with the holy trinity a walks out and gets a little hissy that they're talking about bare going home And she just turns around and walks right back into her room. Yep I mean I could see like for Maddie's standpoint being a little intimidated like these three girls who are. Bff's for life. Like how am I going to get in on that? You know. Yeah in Kayla's like complaining saying that like they were so blindsided which I get? Okay we're alive to for like he was blindsided. He was nominated like he knew there was a possibility of him going in but I think he truly thought like he was just a burn like nomination that he wasn't actually GonNa go in. I guess though that would have to be the only thing to make sense. Yeah and Josh's like telling he's already starting the Rally Maggie and he's like you know this is what happened. He told me that like West. Hold him which it's like this like Swaggie this whole episode. I'm just like you're so bad at the political game. Like yeah after. Shut your mouth. You just have to like emporer. Bailey's always just standing in the background. Like dude stop please. I know Josh bills the be into their late. Why no we didn't really see that coming and then a little bit later we see west talking. Swaggie bailing you've got to keep the under wraps like you're literally talking in a room with windows open room in my house with huge glass walls. Like what are you doing be anymore? Obvious of what's going on here. And it is Sudas Josh Walks. And he's like so you anyone read is GonNa go just trying to play it cool but totally failing and failure sitting there silently like we do not need to like. We're just hanging out. Just chill like he just can't he has no chill wind so I said I don't know I was just trying to talk to talk. Because John Walked in. I was rolling. He is so worst at keeping a secret. Yeah and I thought to the other thing. That was really funny in this conversation. You just see like the power that West has over people like so swaggie brings comes him and he's like you know you gotta be careful like as if to warn. West play of Josh in West is like Oh he was talking to the Holy Trinity. You mean girls that I've been friends with for ten years. Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm not worried. And I was just like Oh shit swaggie like he just puts him in his place over and over again in this west. As with all the rookies he goes in their mind like messes with it and get everything where needs to be. He'll lines it up perfectly for them and swaggie not trusting West as process at. It's getting either if he doesn't start trusting him after this episode. It's GonNa screw him like he's GonNa end up burning a bridge in west is GonNa know like you're a weekly so a have to throw you in Absolutely and that's why Bailey's kind of saying she's like we have to balance both sides house because as of right now they. I mean they could be in a really good place because they do so many people but Freakin Swaggie just keeps going around running his mouth. And the that's how you screw everything up and then your game blows up in your face. He's too paranoid He she did Bailey. Did say you know. Like I know that I have a good alliance Casey interesting so you and I talked about this off off the podcast about them on big brother. Yeah 'cause they were absolutely on complete opposite sides of the House on big run like they were not friends so I guess at some point. They haven't showed it to us that they must have reconciled. Okay or maybe they're just like under the agreement of big brother sticks together on the. Which is I mean you see that happening sometimes like on different than when big brother people have started coming in but No they were completely like not friends at all not in. It's it's different with Casey to though like Casey. So likable you know. It's like I mean Bailey to like not to say that she isn't but Bailey. Is You know. Obviously we've seen the season. A little more confrontational and Casey S O chill and just wants to like basically be friends with everyone so I could totally see her being like no. Let's be cool. It's work together okay. I just wanted to wanted to get your input on that. I know I mean I thought that was kind of interesting to. I didn't think that they would necessarily be automatic friends and I love it when they go to like the training scenes they give us some great foreshadowing. I showing Casey working out saying how she wants to prove yourself. And then showing Anita working out saying how she wants to prove ourselves and unlike when going back and watching that pagodas second time I see what she did there and we start paying more attention to these things I know we have to like pick up on it again creative on US room. And then here's where the backstabbing bombs in folks. Oh The talking to her man's but not man's I know. What are they white? We haven't seen them be romantic or anything since Jay laughed. So I'm kind of confused I think at this point. Maybe she's just playing him along which I'm not GonNa hate on her for because he did that to her last season. So it's kind of revenge there. Yeah I mean to me. The dynamic of their relationship is he is not. He doesn't want to be with her. He's not interested in her. She would take him back like in under any circumstance like she I think is still super into him. Would like if he said it. If he said the word she would be like cool. Let's do it. I don't know anymore. I don't. I don't know about this version of de that we're getting. I don't like this version. I liked the version. That was a tough ass that like when Rogin said she wasn't good enough to run final. She proved him wrong. That she's like screaming at him like blowing him off saying this is why you don't fall in love with the stripper like I loved that D- that was so just like headstrong and it's like man. This guy's fucking with her he is. I don't know I mean this is a very intense version of de that we're getting. I was like okay. Whatever you know. She's trying to play the villain a little bit. I get it she wants to be. West is under study. We should call it but when she comes after Jenny. Why why Jenny? This is what everybody tried to tell you week. One of don't hand her Red Skull. Don't hand her. Red Skull ended our Red Skull. And now you're like. Ooh You know what I don't really like that for me. You could have handed my girl Tori read. That's what you should have done because you owed Tori enjoy in for carrying your ass to the final and getting you the win last season like I. It was just so infuriating that now. So it's so crazy because rogin says he's like your best friend like don't want to stand up for her and she's like. Ya Up until she got her red skull who gave her a red school. No you did you like. Oh my gosh. That was so infuriating. I was so mad. Ginny has always been a strong competitor yet. Only it's not like oh my gosh. She trained so hard and she was a complete burnout last season. Now just getting a whole different version of her. No no always been good happen. Deed had this light above her head of Medical Diem. I don't want to run a final with her. It's like no shit. That's what everybody tried to tell you. Keep her out of the of the arena. Keep her out of purgatory. Do not let her get a red skull so then she has to go home and can't run a final. I'm surprised story Jordan. Didn't say anything to like above it all but I mean I'm so surprised they didn't just say one little comment during when this episode aired job and I loved it d is like so. Yeah Rogin are you with me on my my big diabolical plan. He's like a hill. No I'm not helping you with this. This is because he knows he's thinking Shit. I'm next number girl and she's going after her. I'm her number one guy she's GonNa cut me out. This is not the way to approach this like no way until the end like yes. You don't WanNa run in a final. Which any fine way until later on in the game like at least be boil up until the very last second and then you have to be sneaky shit. Don't go around like yeah. I'm just thinking of Jenny. Like what no you. If you're going to say Jenny's name you better be like one hundred percent. Sure about it. You better have your plan in place and you better be super sneaky like you can't should just approach all wrong all even take it a step further and say if you want her out of the game even after you basically handed her that Red Skull on a silver platter than your ass. Better be the one to go down there and take her out. Yeah exactly I feel about. It agreed agreed. So then we get to you the daily challenge and we have poor little big t hobbling down the dares big toe big toe for live and she's just so precious and she's like. I'm really hoping that Tj doesn't Send Me Home Girl come on by. No you cannot be going down some rats who were in your toes. GonNa survive absolutely not. I knew when we saw the preview. It was water challenge. There was no way that they were GonNa let her in that cold water that could be contaminated with who does what her co halfway sliced. Big T- goes home and that's where we get. I don't know who it was. That says we love you big toe and I just thought I don't know I hope that sticks with her because that is so funny. So backstory bananas gave her that nickname. So did that said it. Yeah it was a girl but it was quite a bit but he gave her that nickname they ha. They went on live together and talked about it and he was like she will forever be known as big toe now. Oh Man but yeah. I think she's going to be a staple of the challenge like she's precious. I she still has not really been able to prove her bell like in any elimination or anything so I want her to have that opportunity. She's a great personality. She super entertaining. We know now that like she's going to be aligned with bananas and West so she has that kind of power under her belt so I really hope that she comes back I do too. She's she definitely brings the posh vibes to the show. I love it love it. If we can't have Georgia will take big toe. It's a good step out all right so the competition is called tunnel rat and TV's GonNa make them go into the sewer like the rats they are. Yeah TJ with the Burns this episode. He he really did. You was on fire. He not having with them. They will have really messed up between week and this week. They must have pissed him off. We had me cracking up. Only God I loved it and I love whenever he calls him brats. Everyone's face kinda like ha ha silly Bailey's like excuse me that's got a rat. She was not here for that for that. Insult your no. No thank you that would be mean to how cold using that water was. It looked really cold because you could just see when people like came up out of the water. They could barely swim like they were frozen. Once the water is if your body is in shock you know you have a little bit of paralysis for a second of like what do I do? How do I function? And whenever you're like you're not keeping yourself up above the Water Sydney. You get kind of disoriented. Like which way am I going like? Where am I? What the hell like? What's happening right now? I feel like you could probably give us some insight because you recently was this regard. I was having PTSD because I almost drowned the other day. Oh judge me. I would floating the river with a very small group of people. It's it's different down here where we are. We are not as closed as a state so right able to know do that. It was a very open space whatever. Dm Me if you have a problem. Anyways we were going down the river and there was a big shoe and I went. Dow- I literally got shoved all the way down to the bottom of the river. Hit My knee on the rocks and couldn't get up like at all. I was just. I was underwater and I was like okay. Goodbye cruel world like I guess always going to have to find a new podcast hosts like I don't know it was just so scary and this truly was giving me. Ptsd seeing people like going under the water and coming up. And like I was like though yes. I could totally like feel their pain. I was not dishing out any judgments. Except maybe to Swaggie because let's be really have a life vest on. You're fine right anyway. So Yeah I oh and we didn't mention that. I'm sorry I just thought of this that it's a double elimination TJ. Even though the big tease gone he doesn't care by three girls releasing three girls this episode. Mike. We already lost a girl. Like I don't understand that but That's the challenge. I guess towel works. So yeah they have to go. Drop down this tunnel into this. You're the other part that I thought was particularly hard about this. Is that you have to go down with your arms up above your head. A Ha so like when you're hitting the water you don't have time to plug your nose. You'd better good at holding your breath. I I'm like you have to have water just shoved right up into your brain right. I mean because that's what you do as soon like right before you hit the water you plug your nose because otherwise it just I just. That's all he could think about. I mean not unless you know how to properly do it you know like a you. Don't even well how how you don't even know the distance of like winner. You actually GonNa hit the water. It's super dark down there now. You you have no time to do anything. I wonder. If that's what happened to Swaggie as I keep took a breath in too soon and that he was so disoriented and couldn't figure out how to move it being cold and then you're not dry drowned. 'cause you just inhaled water that's very possible so yeah we have. A team won into going first team. One is Casey fessing Nelson and Jenny team to is bananas. Kyle Jenna Rogan Melissa. Multiple US more of a bad ass. Sorry I have to throw it out there again. Also her baby is a bad ass. Like that. Maybe is a little trooper. She's going to be a tough cookie. Can we just get her? Sign a challenge like no season. Sixty whatever it's going to be by the time she's old enough yes please. She's going to be so tough. And did you notice that Betsy and Casey each got to from the beginning there like I got to. I got here. I'm like yeah. Bb BB power for life. Well maybe I mean why he had to have the paramedic swimmed him quicker than has ever seen to anybody as an Isa pointed out to us. She's like I have never seen that quick saving. 'cause he's like help poor. Swaggie yes he did not say that. This was the perfect challenge for him. This time he's like. This was not the challenge for me. I love it. He's he's starting to show some humility. I'm okay with it. I am okay with it. This first round team won into are like very neck and neck. They both come out at the same time. And then everybody stop what you're doing. Rogan the puzzle master is here to save the day. Where did this come from? I was going ask you the same thing. Did we miss a achievement? Awards that we were aware of that. Rogan is a puzzle master or does he think that because he is so perfectly aligned with c. t. the just past him along. No I don't know I don't know somebody please clarify because that's like one of the themes of this season is like Rogan a great puzzle earlier and he has yet to prove that ever not once this entire APP season or ever in previous. So I don't understand I don't know L. The puzzle team to ends up winning. So that's bananas Kyle Jenna Rogan and Melissa. Yeah Hi Roken what. He's at something when I took that and I looked at it and it just came to me okay. Do you also have a photographic memory that we didn't know about? Oh My Gosh. It was so funny. Then we have teams three and four going team. Three is D Noni Cory. Bailey and West team for is Josh. Mattie Nissan Kayla and Swaggie or as I like to call them team struggle bus. They were struggling hard. This is where swaggie like can't get it together. Though at one point is this where did I miss the last group where Josh had to go back in? Get no this was this round. Yeah Gosh had to go back get Nelson because he was like literally stuck in the middle of the sewer. Esi that went back to get Nelson. You're right yeah. Yeah yeah okay so I was like around and I see Nelson I was like I gotta go get him like what a good team member I mean. You know you can't finish until everybody's in but ally would just a we've seen it a lot of people just sit there and scream from the edge. Hurry UP SWIFT. Let me just get his ass way more helpful that way. What a good guy and I I thought it was interesting because they say Swaggie is D- queued like they put out under his name. He goes in with the puzzle so I was like if the team wins. He doesn't get to be a part of the tribunal right. That was what I thought and I thought well maybe because it is a team win. Why did the whole team? I thought that at first too. I'm like Oh shit. He's does that mean. The team is D- queued but then it was as if nothing happened and he just gets to go do the puzzle. It was very weird. We was just standing in that tunnel with his hand on the rail. It come on guy you to sit there with that judgmental. Look on her pays. No like you need to go. You need. Be Doing Puzzles in your head. Like Arlington Puzzles out. Trying to figure it out. I don't know like or they should have completely kicked him out and made him leave the whole competition. I know right yeah. It was weird. I didn't understand that either. Yeah so team. Three is struggling team for is already out their puzzle. Team three finally get out there and they literally can or sorry team for Finally get out there and they just can't figure this shit out so team ends up winning and it's so funny when TJ walks. Swaggie can't even put his helmet on right. Oh my God I was dying in Roset in a Bush. Oh my gosh you teach. What would they give me the season? Why yeah I I don't know Tj? I don't know that was so funny. So then posts. Oh well sorry. I guess I should tell who wins. Helpful may be helpful seemed threes the winner. So that's Bailey. Noni de Corey and West's de doubles down that she's going to use this power to go our money. Of course she is But she's going to get other people to do her dirty work on the tribunal. You're doing the dirty work white exactly and ninety S. not stupid. That she's like I know what he's going to do. She's GonNa make say she looks clean and Yano okay. Everybody sees it so this is not some strategic move. No not at aw. Hey everyone it's Leah. Let's take a quick break so I can talk to you about today. Sponsor hero cosmetics. They just send us over something called the mighty patch which is a hydrocare Loyd acne patch. I actually had a monster pimple pop up so I stuck on a mighty patrick original overnight and in the morning the pimple was totally flat. 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WanNa go win for the loser. Nominations like easy. No thanks role. No I definitely don't want to go in no thank you Nah. I'm trying to grow a baby over here right. She didn't know guys creator. It's that was a joke. So then we have Jenna trying to get a hold of her man and it was. I just did the biggest IRA when I saw her in. That room was like I'm so tired of seeing Zack's face like I really don't WanNa see him on my screen anymore. But he didn't answer so it was a happy ending for me. Yeah no answer. She's crying about it. She goes to crowded NONI and A. I just really felt noni this episode. I have never felt more than I had this episode. We're she's like. I told her everything I can tell her. I don't have anything else to say anymore. It's up point where you're so frustrated. Because she's probably been through this for years with gem and she's tried to be the best friend give all the advice be neutral because she knows what what the end game is here. She knows you knows acts. GonNa propose she knows Judas Never GonNa leave him linens on like. Stop Buck crying about it. Yes I've coming to me like I have nothing else to say to you. What more can I say? If you a bitch be miserable then go do it at home by other people to be yes so she kind of finally starts to push back on her and it was crazy to in this moment. Jenny Earth. Our agenda made this comment that was like I know on the one who messed up regarding her back. And I'm like I caught through rewind win. Who how did you mess up? I know how hard it was. I don't know almost like she kind of tried to cover it up. She's like although I didn't really give him permission to go through my stuff. So that was Kinda Weird. I the same thing like pump. The brakes would not. You mean you messed up like do we not know everything? She didn't mess up. It's a mind fucker and he's emotionally abusive. It seems I'm making allegations here people but it seems as though he has a mess with her mind so much that she feels she starts to feel guilty and she even sells it later in the episode. I feel guilty. Because he messes he gets in her brain. I just WanNa know the whole story and I know we're never going to know it and Kayla's came out and said look about Corey but I don't know I just find that hard to believe because corey has not everybody on the challenge including gala. But I don't I don't know Genita- straightness type of person that would cheat on Zach once. She's back with him but it's like when they were on a break is that what why. Zach so pissed. Because she wasn't home crying and that's why she feels like she messed up. Like why does she like she must up? I think she didn't mess up but I think she feels like she messed up. Because Zach probably specifically asked her about this time frame agitated. She talked to anyone. Did she hook up with anyone? Maybe even asked specifically about Corey and she lied like she said at one point that it's like basically she didn't give him. The whole truth is what happened. And I'm sure that he was able to tell because she doesn't seem like she's the best liar. That's why as soon as she was gone. He started going through her. Em's because he's like. I need to figure out what really happened during this timeframe and so she probably lied about it. Why did she lie? Might you ask? Because she knew how Zach was going to react like a fucking psycho that he is Dan. Oh it's just so crazy to me I just can't get over it. It's upsetting is what it is and then to see like. He posted a picture of them today where he has. That's how happy life I was like BARF right now like I. I want better for her. I really do. I really liked that class season. Yeah no he was super likable. He was on that kind of bigger lions but he was kind of still above it all and new Polian Kara. Where like Super Annoying Ryan? It was you know I liked him too. I did and at season's pass. He has played a Shitty game and he said really shitty things about women to where you're like. Oh He's the most likeable so when we saw him last season I was like wow. He's really grown as a person. Nope and now. We're back to this young. These who are so upsetting but I mean whatever whatever works for them. I guess I just hope that. She's not abusive situation and feels like she can't get out. Yeah so then we go to loser. Nominations that's what they started calling them this episode loser nomination with I appreciate it. I liked that will save. Started doing this season that correct me if. I'm wrong but this is the first time I've caught. I've caught it. Is this season. And I've known as I've noticed it every episode. Tj No longer says it's girls elimination. He says it's a woman's elimination. Oh I did not even notice. Yeah that the first woman's nomination elimination and I was like what did he say? And then I kept listening. He has not said Girls Day. Girls Elimination nothing about girls at all. Good catch I thought you were GonNa say that thing about prospects versus like rose. That's like super annoying. But I like I like that. I mean it. Roll off the tongue as my dad rather than girls elimination like. I wish it could be like something else that's one syllable but I know I'll take it because they aren't girls they're women he's it was very interesting so. I don't know what prompted that change the season but I'm here for it. I like it so we get to the nominations immediately. Casey says that she wants to go ahead anther herself and she wants to get her red skull her plan a was to you. Know get on the tribunal and throw herself in when the opportunity presented itself. But it didn't and so this is plan. B when she said can I can. I have a moment to speak. I thought we were going to get a whole Fassi conversation again of like I. No if you had vote me and but just not come back and kick up and she is. I just want to go in. And everybody's like cool. Okay can put your name up from like Wow Bravo. She wants to pop her elimination Cherry. That part made me Crenshaw Little Rock. Why was that said? Why was that the words we chose we go from? It's a women's limitation to. I WANNA pop my limitations like we are making so much progress guys so much. He's and then we also get an. Isa Who says basically the same thing. She wants to go ahead and get her school. She wants to go in and guess what guys was about to go in. I loved that part I was growing up. I was like she knows her place in this house she is. I was also a little terrified like a niece. So why are you going in? Who are you going to go against ready yet? Trading I know I was just like Oh gosh. I'm not sure about this. And then she hasn't been on a challenge in a while guys like no. We didn't know what to expect. And Yeah like in her past season in her limitations. She's been total chain like the girl pulls it out but I was just like oh I don't know like she didn't do so hot. Like some of the dailies House that I go. I don't WanNa lose her yet. Then what's going to happen? And we heard he got bear taken off. You know we've lost Jordan now. What yeah who's going to be like our commentator we don't have big t like we live and as the Nana's sneaks in a little like dig And he's like yeah. Everyone knows Genita-. The be here and I didn't think that was mad. She seemed fairly she. Gosh whatever matches like. Don't be telling people that like it was very silly silly not so silly on instagram. Noni came out and said that Jenna had made a deal with West. What and so basically he knew she was going in. Oh Oh okay well. That's Kinda lame. She knew she was going to go home. I guess I think so. I mean you can pretend that you're trying on an elimination like it's not that hard and it's literally a hundred balls to get ninety nine balls and stay in pace with you in look like you know So yeah posts nations. We see that that's when we see the conversation with like D Bailey. Noni where these like I just. I don't even WanNa know if you're going to put my friend. Jenny and I just don't even want to know not all right. Yeah you know being a joke seriously. And then this is we when we get the backstabbing of the backstabber. We have rogin going to Jenny. Fireside of the fireside chats we need more conversations by fireside. I love the mood a yeah I like it too and he straight tells Jenny decides she's GonNa Throw your acid. I believe he sold her out like that. He was quick. Like D if if you spend any of your breath on Rogan. After this season like please my question is though. Was He wrong to do that? No I mean I think what I think. He's wrong about the I'm pretty sure. He's stringing her along as far as like thinking that there's a chance that they could gather that's what I think. He's wrong about game. Wise I I mean it is what it is. He's going to do what he needs to do to protect his game and he was also smart because he told Jenny like the way to approach. This is not to go and attack her right now. It's wait until you have the opportunity to get her. I Yeah I agree with that At this point you know before we really Kinda shitting on Rogan. Like screw Rogan. He's being so stupid. He's playing her long. But now like the way. D- Has kind of responded like all bets are off and you got to do because she essentially strong Jenny along. Oh No I don't think that Rogan has any reason to be loyal to her at this young whatsoever. I just think like he even makes the comment at one point that he can't have fun while she's here. You just say that which basically shows me that like you have not had a straight up conversation with her. That says me and you will never be together. Is You not have feelings for you? I WanNa go day other people. You're leaving her on a string and that's why you can't go whatever you. WanNa do with whoever else in the house which I also thought who are you can up within the house but damn after seeing what? She's doing to ginny her number one girl. Are you really going to have that conversation with her and be like I don't WanNa be with you now is not the time because she's GonNa burn you you through writing the on? She's on one. So that's what I'm saying like I'm GonNa have to give Rogan a little bit of a grace on this one because damn she's Kinda crazy she is. I'm not there yet. Though with more time what. I saw the shock on Jimmy's face and like how genuinely hurt she was out. That wasn't acting. She really west shocked that and she went into her whole oil spill like that. This is who I am so oil I I felt that and saw McMahon fakty like Rogin and Youtube Youtube deserve. You do whatever you WanNa do to each other. Go for it. I could see that. So then they go on their night out and they're just at this like boozy club. Joe Nice I was like I wanna go look really nice. We see Jennifer talking to bananas. And she's like I'm just complaining like I really do want to be here okay. And he's like dude so many people would want to know your position like you say that you're just saying these things but you're putting that energy out into the atmosphere. I'm like look bananas believing in Energies. No and she's like I always complained finally GonNa Complain and I'm been up complaining about this that I'm going to complain about that. Wow annoying your words have power. What you're saying is what you put out into the universe and that's what you receive okay. People like it's just the truth of the world it is the truth and if you don't believe that then you need to start paying attention to what you say and how it affects your actions because you'll notice a difference. Leeann are big believers. We talk about all the time you believe her. So and we see what ends up happening is episode so that Shit sure did come back to bite her. If you want some proof. So then we see Noneya Nissan in Casey and I just feel like ninety s sprung over. Casey she loves her Josh. She keeps saying not. Just so are not keep saying Casey so cool. I really liked to be around her. She's a great personality. You just buy we just five you know. How do you vibe? Yeah so I don't know what's going on there. You do see them just hanging out a lot. I I know that Casey and her girlfriend or still solid but on speaking of. I'm sure you've seen her girlfriend right. Yeah Breaking Gorgeous. Yeah Yeah Oh my. I like went to the curb because I wanted to see if she was saying anything about you. Know last episode like felt noneya in the bar with the coming we talked about on the podcast. Oh Okay so you guys seventy posted on read it people read. It are quick. I thought I was quick but people want to read it. They work way quicker and they notice everything that episode were Nana Super and was trying to get with Casey in the bathroom. Casey you see you see that moment that case. You like groping nominees boob she. She gets a nice handful of people I it was. I think it was in the moment where she was kind of trying to hold noni back. Okay okay well. It was very much as specific hand placement. I it was whether or not it was intentional. I don't know but it was a definite handful. I mean that's the only way to put it. Maybe it was subconsciously intentional. I don't but non does her so then we see Jenny talking to a group. It's like Swaggie. Billions joshing Kayla. Talking about how can't Trust D. and She's like dis vibes totally off. She won't even look at me tonight like she knows. That shit is going down and that deeds trying to come for her and if you're going to be shady like this at least play a better bright not no she is. Don't be far away from her. I mean yeah on. Are you trying to raise every red flag possible and just literally only hanging out with west at the bar like no with West and Corey okay? That doesn't look suspicious at all. Not at all and we see josh kind of talking to like that. Same Group with like bananas and Waggin all of them and they're just kind of shooting the shit talking about like Hate with like when people are fake. Like I've just so tired of hearing people's Bullshit Blah Blah Blah. Whatever just like drunk hanging out talk. Yeah when he has to throw in his little opinion saying well that you a hypocrite and Josh is like. I'm sorry what it makes me away and that's when these are getting into it and before you know it here comes Bailey stopping over from across the room. Her like Swaggie in trouble radar went off. So it's interesting. Uc Mattie and Bessie in a bat. And I'm like that is the table. I would be watching all this shit. Play out like you dumb asses as they. That was so funny to see them. Just like ooh and and Maddie's like Bailey is common for Josh. I spent a year. But you messed up which I noticed recently that like Mattie posted a picture with Bailey I didn't realize like they're pretty good friends from the show. I'm pretty sure okay. Well that was interesting kilo friendship. Maybe they align. Yeah so I think at some point we might see that happen which makes sense to me and then I just thought you know. We've already kind of talked about this fight. But Josh basically looks like a psycho he's like jumping on the avar like looking like a crazy person. He just screaming this last season. We got do not walk this season. We get why are you next to me? Why are you next to me? Why are you next to me? Like Josh's kept screaming that over and over again. Do you remember when he did this. Though with Paulie and they got into that big fight and security came yes dr. Remember the fight with polly. That reminded me of this. Same situation will because at the end what's his. What's the one thing that Swaggie did that? Really set him off. You disrespected me. You respected me. That's the thing own disrespect Josh. Because he will off on you. Oh my Josh Shaggy Shaggy God. He calls him a marshmallow. And I don't know why the big six foot one marshmallow and then he stands up as if nobody can see him because he's so tall I mean. Just stand up on this bar and the like Star Down Sir get down God's so embarrassing Kyle has the literally carry him off of the Bar q closing time by him as tonic. Love that song. I mean every episode. We're getting the song of the episode. They keep killing it. Let's see if they can make it through the whole season. That was definitely it. Did you see that I posted rogue and be like? I'm pretty sure we'RE NOT GONNA get invited back that the bartender behind Rogan didn't notice this. You have to look at the picture that I posted on our instagram. The guy in the back has his hand on his head like he doesn't know what the Hell is going on. And he does not want to be there he's like what is my life. How did I get here? Why did I sign the release to work? Oh my gosh. So that was it. That was the night how lots of drama. That was a way better night out than last time. Yeah much much more fine. I'm glad they picked a new venue that other one was Super League darken small. And just not posh. It wasn't we didn't see Nelson get into a fight with anybody this time so it was very quiet this episode. Yeah good for him. Margai finally shutting his mouth. So then we go to the tribunal and the discussion is pretty short they decide. They're gonNA put Jenny Kayla Jenna and Melissa and I we have our conversation with Kayla. She is adamant that she wants to go in. Who does she want to go against? Casey I know why why Kayla. She said she's already beat an Isa as she wants to be. Casey why on Earth would you do this to yourself? It like we do not know that she won a season of big brother and that she used to be a professional football player right. That's what I was. GonNa say I don't understand like why do why is threatened by her. Is it because she's quiet I think so she's very unassuming? But that's what that's what everybody says. Like you gotTa Watch out for the quiet ones were fest. He's the same way he's guy it. I don't know it was really stupid. But that's what she said. And then we get to Jenna and Jenna like no thank you. I don't WanNa go in. This is where she talks about how she loves complaining and she keep complaining. Noni looks like she's GonNa cut a bitch. During this achievers. That was a whole entire booed right there and I have it from time to time. What happens then we have Melissa Melissa's like new? Thank you over. Go in and Corey calls her out because she's like I was. I would stick up for you. Corey copy on your side. And he's like But you have these eight people ahead of me so probably not like all. Do your favorite will stick to okay. Okay sure Melissa sees he's taken anyone's bullshit everyone. I don't believe you but then Jenny comes in and we get a really long monologue from Jenny. Oh Sweet Jenny. This was so big to watch. It was and I'm sure there with them. Editing in they're like this isn't exactly what it sounded like but she was just all over the place she couldn't get through a full thought she couldn't get her point and they literally just had to cut her off inches. I'm sorry I rambled saw recall wreath already. Like shut the hell up. Okay Bye. You're not going in any way as it's fine. I would like to see a casey versus Jenny elimination. I know that would be good. I like the strongest girl. So it'd be really to see. I was hoping that that's what we were going to get. I thought I'm like that would have been these best chance of getting her. Al is again. See I mean who else is. GonNa take out Jenny. Yeah I don't know who would win honestly does that's one competition. I'm like Oh it's anybody's game. I think Jenny is so damn strong. I mean it depends on what the nation is but if it's purely like strength right. I I mean you can't beat those muscles Jenny. Has I know. So this is what Naughty said about interogations and the nominations and everything And she's like to everyone wondering why I allowed the Holy Trinity to be voted in one gentleman a deal with west off camera to get the entire tribunal to vote her in which is why. I didn't fight it and why I was angry with her. I don't care what the final edited version is one hundred percent effect cameras. Don't catch everything. Pelham to Kayla attribute to be voted in because she generally wanted a chance at at the red skull but I still refuse to say her name Three I'm only one person of five in the tribunal one vote. I can't save everyone especially those who don't want to be saved. I never for a second was thinking. How could Noni let this happen? I did I yeah. She's one of five like yeah in. Genoa was out here saying how she just wants to go cried. Exac LIKE CALEB S. You're saying that she wants to go against Casey's I mean what was to do. I never thought that but I guess some people that yeah she had a of ship or in. I thought the same thing like I mean. Wh In her to do force them to stay in. The season is different. People want to go in this season. Oh Dodge just people are dumb if they were saying. Yeah so then post tribunal drama. We just have an Isa saying that she's going to go in. Oh sorry guys. We didn't really have a lot of drama. I don't know why put drama just like drama apparently on my nuts but we have an ISA reminding us before they go to the Purgatory that she has one eight elimination south and they called her the Elimination Queen. And I just thought it was foreshadowing always like Fox. She's going home now only that oh. I was so worried for her. I was to get out to purgatory. And it's this like dumpster competition. I don't know I didn't even write down the name of it but there's balls in a job and then you bureau at all so right off the bat. None of the girls from the tribe. You don't WanNa go in there like not about this lot. We don't know what we're going to have to do. We've never seen this before. So it's going to be a hard no for us now. And then they go ahead and vote on. Who's GonNa go against Casey? Everyone votes like we already kind of talked about for For my God J. No Kayla sorry except Noni who votes for Jenny And then we pick the Anita opponent. Kinda the same thing everyone votes for Jenna except ninety who votes for Jenny. Yup and so we have it all set. A niece says given her the side. I and we're ready to go. I this whole time of he comes back and wins us. I'm just going to be so pissed. Though that she complained about being there and so everybody put her in and then now she has to read schools. You know I was wearing up to you. I was one hundred percent voting for Casey and an Isa the whole time. I was like you. Hey Liking go janiking go like peace out not about that life and then at one moment. I thought discount only want to go in against Casey. Because she doesn't want to be there anymore now that bears gone or like Kana similar to Jenna. Where it's like. I need to go home address. My dumpster fire relationship because bears about to spread like wildfire. Now that he's back factly and she no shits about to hit the fan and I need to go home and address it. That's a good point too. I don't know we get versus Kayla. And she takes off bears ring which bear rain freak and break. God and Casey has a really good strategy. She's going to knock out all the heavier bombs. I when you're stronger and then that way towards the end it gets easier and easier and you do the lighter ones at the end. And she's like these are really heavy and as he's like tossing them over like old like it looks super heavy. I know how heavy are we talking? Casey what's the wait there and she just dominates and Kayla goes home and D. is so stunned underestimated Casey. What how. I don't care if you never knew anything about this okay like I don't know one thing about her. I don't know that she's on big brother. I don't know that she's playful. Shit about her her walking in and just seeing her in dailies. You don't think like damn she's kind of a bad ass and she was getting. She got pretty far to the end. I'm even thinking in that very first daily challenge not whenever they had to drive the barrels. Imbaba bolic's right. She didn't re freaking good even in that like off the bat. She's never tried to hide. How good of a competitor she is. So yeah that was dumb. I'm like Okay D- just not paying attention. The season cool no thanks. And then we have an ISA versus Jenna. They are neck and neck the whole time. I truly didn't know what was going to happen. I was back and forth finally Anita pulls out the win. Thank God and Jen is like I tried But now knowing what we know that she made a deal with West. I'm like did you try doesn't saying this. It was so easy to throw this competition and make it look at just literally had to look over and be like. I'm not going to throw one more ball out than she does right and I mean it. Looks like she had quite a few still left. Yeah it was. It was easy to take a break and be like. Oh my gosh so I need to breathe like no. Yeah I don't believe it. And then Jenna and Kayla just skip off into the sunset to go deal with their shit show relationships wes. Hope your lives aren't ruined when you get back. Oh my God. He's so funny. God I hope they stayed a few days and Prague and drank it up and partied before. They went back home to that he should. I want to know the story. Because it's crazy to me that Jenin docker still together like I just WanNa know how that went down. What was their conversation? How did they get to where they are now? I wonder if we'll talk about on their union. I hope so I come out that it was corey. It won't it. Won't they'll edit it out. I wonder who the host are going to be like have good host for their L. Marie Union No. I don't think so because it's going to be via skype or whatever So lame so I would think well. They'll probably film it Maybe next month maybe in June sometime. Yeah kind of towards the end. I guess they don't film it like early on in this season now. My Gosh she. I can't wait to see that. But that's it for this episode. There was a lot outer affiliated was like jam packed episode. It wasn't our preview for next week. It looks like wes. Bananas are going to have their ultimate is. It was going to happen one of these days. I didn't think it would be this soon though. Maybe it's a maybe you know like may they're just yeah. Yeah Yeah I mean. It's going to happen sooner or later. I've already been saying. They're on shaky ground. But I figured it would be closer to the end. I don't know really just and like who's going to get to. Who I you know. I don't think we'll see. I don't think we'll see them both in the final together. I think one of them's GonNa take out the other one. Yeah Oh and the other thing that we kinda got teased with like Mattie being like Oh shit I need to like start going into eliminations. Has I'm worried for her. That if she's not aligned with anyone she's just going to go home because she doesn't have a red skull and not make it to the final. I was wondering that is how how is that going to play out like at what point has. Cj says if you don't have a red school you her get one. So what is he going to say? Time's up if you don't have a red skull Yuki I go to my final and I know it's like all right who has one who doesn't go home if you don't. Is there going to be a purge? I think so fooling there. Yeah crazy season. There's been a lot of people saying that like they love the Red Skull thing. They love that you have in winning elimination and I totally agree. I think they need to keep this around Cam. Said she likes it. Ashley said she does not like it well match that we know I. So do we have on my gosh. I don't know why I'm setting myself self up for this. Who All has a red skull right now? I know we have the Nelson. And WHO's other guy? There's one more Guy Rogan. Yeah and then girls. We have D- Jonah Jenny. I mean now Jennifer did but she's gone. Yeah as at it. Casey an ISA eaten. Say Yeah from this episode. We have four girls and three guys okay. Cool only seven going to the final. So far yeah. 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Introducing Goals-based advice to new clients through group workshops, with Noni Crawford

The Goals Based Advice Podcast

50:45 min | 4 months ago

Introducing Goals-based advice to new clients through group workshops, with Noni Crawford

"How can you think a little differently when it comes to bringing new clients to your business in a goals based advice world. How can you run workshops for clients wig on their financial goals with the use of smart technology now in this episode one hundred fifty six of the goals based advice. Podcast i chat with nonni crawford from hello wealth incident. The he has worked in many areas of advice won't many institutions. You sitting her business up the way. She wanted to providing advice by embracing smart technology and goals based advice. Noni has also built networks over ferris through her volunteer work with local professional business groups. That fuel the business runs today and runs group workshops to help clients think about their financial goals before working with him. So if you're thinking about how you can implement a clever goals based advice prices in your business embracing technology than this episode number one hundred and fifty six of the goals vices. Podcast is for you. Welcome to the ninety. Anki phrase having me thank you so much for coming on now do you wanna give. The list is a very quick overview of you at the moment as any crew Financial advisor all our once in newport. Mitch's sitting wonderful. Thank you and let's start with telling that how you got into financial advice. Oh it's a funny question. It was nearly twenty years ago. I was laid tells komo bank. And i had a really good relationship with the financial advisor up to him a From and then found a good interest. That's an inch finding and just started waking way into fantasy. no wasn't exactly a standard pathway. Like twenty years. It's like believable by the way so tell us about that pathway. Had you've had a main tool but you had you develop that will push you through. Because i'm sure they wasn't lots of doors for you the and it really wasn't that common of career pass and sorry is but a lot of time trying to find a financial planning assistance role to ensure that i could get the correct foundations and i spent coin. He's doing that naturally. Then found than i quite liked strategy and what biz day fox to become an adviser for was to be a power plant so that was fully is very detailed processes which was great grounding but then i was lucky enough to be selected twenty five people added twenty five thousand for the horizons academy which is technically three months of boot camp style and how to be an advises specifically That really helped push me through inch saying it finds a newly searching using. Well take us. Take us through that program because i was bugging to a few people that have come through that you know what the base parts how did you. How did you find it. What was the most valuable Parts of that program fee everything was valuable genuine lane. It's not just sign up. Because unbiased. I went through it but you'd learn different requirements of soft skills. It not everybody has the background on the technical power planning knowledge for example and so stuff skills the mating requirements. We had al role phase of client meetings with actors and they were being filmed headed chick least a few joining spree joining. That really gave me the correct skills to go forward in the real world then also find skills you have to call clients when they ask certain questions that might painful frank cat if you think. Oh gosh you're going to get on. This is a really interesting and full credit to imp for doing this for. Because they were really one of the few that created this whole academy around Getting people in and the role the role play thing is like this evil word that everybody hates the sound of like. Oh don't make me do a role play but at end of the day they actually work right. The role play environment that was created in net. Whole imp program. Just really leaps the ford under the way to the lead you forward. I guess when it comes to you know how to have decisive clients well as acted as they their people and so when they were acting to pretend to. They're asking about their finances. You could tell it was actually personal for them. Even though they're acting the role at soden able main the big we went through that program to Solan look clients one actors clients really want to. Will they concerns. Officer naturally came out demonize Battle side all do terrible things that i would have done. Relax saying the wrong thing and stuffing up a mating in stumbling my wisdom done yet. Junior carol was learning citing really really helpful and hem take us through how long how many role plays how much time you spent in those types in meetings in net. Yes i think they struck. Should it quite well Actions of what you needed to know that you were the last month thing. Pretty much constant pretends meetings so binding recording Check marks and actors as it was another and take us through the feedback powder this process because obviously you re watch yourself in those meetings. Yes everybody hates their voice. Stunning you just cringe It was incredible because may not believe in the value of the process. The checklist huge cited. Covid off to do with compliance. If you had signed right things in iraq questions franken things were vice options yukons correctly. You don't you just wouldn't pass So the chiklis was pretty brutal. I've been had signed the right strategies at the time. She would have advice meetings. Not just your sex Then had things on presentation skills every pool. Everything checklist cookie. Something christians on their enough. So you coming out of the horizons program. Then they obviously part of that program. Is they help. 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And you just meeting people and they could standing up To that and i think this is where. I started to get an understanding that i was a little bit in business minded differently. Sars you general customers would walk through. The banks tools. And i would say soon compensations about their money shoes. You really should talk to somebody about this star. I would train three branches with stop on the benefits to finish planning. Why clients actually made that into say when to appointment so qualified but then when you had the meaning those customers at the tom really skills on a guy from a dangerous thanking inquiry to talking about and what are they go said. And what do they want from for money and from there four las tells you will stay the schools. Were really really fantastic. But it didn't normally get the skills of business development and sarajevo. The i was based at the time of wounds being the nostril outrun guitar. I'm what i made. Sure i did was really getting missed. In community solicitors accountants from people that have because customers and as they began clients so ended up having reforms coming to me from external sources as well so Well okay so you're in the bank you getting the bank reproach plus you getting referrals from external sources from business partners almost a why. Where would you go from there like. What was the mood after the bang. Interesting within the banking space. The other side the flip side. I was a bit sick of hearing the word revenue. Because it was very much commissioner Targets you get which always exceeded fuelling because during the clock and then the targets will decide suspects time off to his quite easily. But because of that. That's when i started to look into the option of going out my arm. This happened to move states at the time and some lilac was in a little bit of a change. You psych on happens and unnamed quainton edge for the moment. And i got into property. There really weren't that many world's leading financial planning business every day at the time and real estate excellent skills against the skills style skills. Different imports chan. What is what is money and what. Our clients goals a harness said biggest acid so. We got to really learn more direct a french to money he did not respect wasn't until i came hang back came running back. I'm sorry he was to show me attorneys of wells. That are then go back into financial planning but technically Business side started to develop excellent. So you you're able to fit back into your existing relationships that you've built in made of the to stop alive reagan. It was different locations. So i grew up on the intimate was daily coverage back From such a young age coming back twenty something years later removal. I've started getting conflicting. Yep fair enough all right so studying game interesting to sort of static place of knowing not starting from the beginning so studying again. Tell us about that. How did you go decided to open the doors and create what you've got now. I was waiting for fantastic practice as an employee to begin with and the road was really to bathing an employee in hybrid if you could call it that stocks head develop skills outside just employees and it was in that respect. I think ninety from being in property Are realized. Gotta do it. Literally on my own. I failed is out of jail mobile research. The may was important to think outside the box. Not just junk into the no culprit. New clients this dinesh. Now it was on threes ago did set off our wealth We won't different things a one. Transparency they want independence if you could call it a giant one. Anything allante face. I have been researching in nineteen different losses as was so repetitive It was crucial to find the fi. Sit-on structure for how to to give the right set-up structure flexibility and advice to glance well and so You started with the concept of what advice. 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Before one hundred percent agree that the you know bringing the clients in to make those decisions that creation of the advice together with client is a really important part for the birth on their understanding of how it's going on. You know what's gonna happen And for them to be able to take ownership in that decision. You gotta say that you know you've given me some options and you done ratio that attack. This is this is what i'm wanting to do. And then you govern proceed from they. I think it's definitely a a you know like you said a lot of people are doing that now. You know east. India that the process around making sure that You know you have that co creation piece in the and using that technology because people of nathan item survey hands on with before and so by using the technology people could say the visual Visually is a saguenay goals in a finance in the rest of their life in pay up tonight. that decision. Perhaps yeah absolutely a mess. Believe in the idea that people make emotional decisions And so you know it's sometimes on pipe things can look absolutely gripe in in the graph or in in a in in a so i can say this is the thing for you. But if they're not emotionally attached to it that i understand how backstop to the goals and objectives and only sort of things that they to me. It's about how they describe it to somebody else at a barbecue. Like how they can cite. The thing is full this emotional and then be able to make these decisions of which i do emotionally but also just happened to be on the decision on paper as well. Yeah but i get passionate about it. They understand that. I think that's the lack in the way finished own. What i'm doing the advantages New let's understand let's field. Let's get the emotion attached to that and will cost. You came to your advice. Persist a sake but before we get into the advice piece can make a back a little bit into the fall back to the before they become a client piece. Because you're doing some great stuff in the way i of Like getting clinton and talking to people and and so let's talk about before somebody becomes a cloudy goes. How do they find out about you out of they know what you do. How do they start to engage with your with your practice. Really lucky in that guidance conversations of current clients for example in that bob came into family. Do they understand the advice. I think when people are passionate about it dying to live friends. Sorry i've got this incredible community on the north of agents and actually into sites on a few clients in queensland victoria that telling their friends and family you need to say ninety because it's done differently and she he's you understand you so this quota referrals. I'm quite heavily based on social media. Now i think that everyone stokes headliner beautiful. I statement cole and on loved that you'd want to hear your rights that you gonna find persuasive Social media is linked by. When i started all either again it was his persona. Is this relationship quite a neat place. Snake community of business quality business professionals. That i would refer to me as well now just on the social media before we get into the other stuff you doing. How do you do that. Do you take the time personally to that. Or do you outsource. Yes the noise. So at the beginning in business Everything so in the beginning on tv everything my and it takes so much shawn. My hat goes off to a gold marketing that in social media digital the world of getting getting people out there. It's it's tanks and desire is still believe in creating the context for example instagram each month which flows into facebook and love areas. That each have different topic. So i'd like to give out as much education People and that toby audited think. Unknown financial planner can provide the writing inside into that topic. So i agree. I to- the content and the quick stop forgets written on but i now have this incredible. Incredible woman on the hill helps wins. You call it the big picture of marketing in that respect to kind of take some of that for my hands so some strategy cone simpson's strategy. Yeah there is quite a lot of strategy that goes into that and on just trying to get too much ashamed to cancel it out but onion. I think really important to the understanding that you know. They're getting new clients in the there. Is this idea around marketing and bringing people in you websites also a point. Of course she said people do hope that the halladay before they come. And say you hell. Valuable is your website to find out you get one man in technology said to make that. It's just you know it doesn't look good. It's just for them to fund number back in the day It's evolved so much in financial planning spice since then it is crucial everything Sauces for painful to stoking stoke for free. Go jump on to have a book because it's it's representation of the company. I'm what financial earnings should be testing an nda so definitely invested money in new website. Very good. now it's just that That's why you're finding econ doing a lot of seminars and nicer things as well. So obviously it's it's been probably an interesting if you could. You do a lot of workshops where you you standing in a room with a lot of people ended in it So it's obviously not as easy to do is in the past the tell us how that started to you how you got into that. And how how. How does that work fuel business. Unlucky with the networks that i've created locally Sorry by speaking with the right people and this she networking groups who very spoiled. Jesus fake is putting my hand on side with love to speak days. People that by now i've huntington Julian and novels different from visa. Sinus and people having the the right connections helps and just a soak in the community. My second hatch and this is a little bit eat. Disclaimer about the president said the newport chamber of comments Meeting people in the community and in council working with the man on all these different facets of what mexican unity teach missing is so that has enabled me to create different seminar on tonight to support. Unity is kept me busy. Let's stop skip over this because important pot. You're the president of the chamber of commerce again. Like you said that gives you instant access. Which i think is a fantastic thing to all of these other business owners around For both referral networks. And i know when you do presentations you. Present with other industries and other people Setting things up. So how important is that thing to your career new growth and everything that actually joining chamber of commerce and becoming the president very it takes a lot of commitment responsibility so genuinely wouldn't say it's for the faint hearted but things take time and that i would make to mate. I initially thought it was just going newport. The suburb of business. My high where lived were low The in time ages. It's a night but mason made people of all different businesses so much different types of internal network employees and professionals and then only from people within the community so while it does take a while people. Now recognize me financial adviser People now auction unity with friends as money issues to talk all i get it. Just spreads like wildfire after a while says vain valuable. Yeah as. I see this differently alone. Play as in. Not just you know the the the easiest putting ready in how it's paying off right now but even in the future. She liked to me that this idea that the the relationships you build now in the chamber of comments will be invaluable to in the future in these to come yeah and it becomes simply it's also giving back and so it becomes invaluable to did the communities that you work within because been into work it professionals off races and help give tips. They might not have nine different. There's a lot of networking group out to me. The chamber of Will the ride treetop ones that come up And the around a long time and they're doing community work that thing you know they they. Providing valuable services to the community is is is a really good dumb place to stop. So i would suggest that you know people getting into the right business right now i would actually suggested by joining a chamber co missiles. Yeah yeah they'd be coming new fresh shot so i think i've tried to inject been jenex. General i and born on a few young people and it's nice to say because that's the old communist. It's changing in the benefit. Is you sale of immunizing events that you cried in after gets to enjoy the all zossen. Yes you're absolutely right. They can get tagged with the The mayo pile and so so yes. You're in there shaking things up. We'll go to the You know Bring clients and you do workshops. Quickly quickly got through the workshops because Tell us how you run them. How you're involved in them. Hey you sit them up and how you get people in is. I'm absolutely shoutout to aon because it pretty much helps me runway show so Obssessed in nigeria. Who wants to attend you. Get the attendee. This for me wants to just shop on the guest with a heat with official. So i actually getting context them will fall a workshop. Get a feeling for what they would like to heat and instruction content around that depending the topic wig shop. These people individually a comfortable with Confidential planning mackin falls. Then i get to use the technology. So the i client auto and that an is made hill highland my workshop. Shoe then aids confidentially. So i'm running a certain structural. It's it in the background. Is they bring your laptops while you're learning about financial planning you can kind of tweak it with your laptop onto what you'll make sure it's and then they get the real real benefits in that. And i i own say generic confidential united site factual information. knock confidential on the big screen. So then i should igwe financial planning work different strategies on sexual little on the big screen. Big shot and pip could understand much easier. Well so you so you. Your clients ruled their own little mini financial plan in front of them and the building out during the workshop. Well as and how they found that help you clones film it. They love it and to be careful. Because i need to make sure visits with technology to begin with because that would throw a spanner in the works and not being vain little. It take in actually presenting it. That's why there's a limit were done to ensure the as gripe sedan ford if given the correct understanding and foundation they will go away. Just come slightly a nice and not. I'm not saying that in my arm. You're not too at home that genuinely of the Financial planning needs as a lotta of that session around sitting goals in creating portugal's obsequious process you use as a structure with goals. You just sort of give them something gentle and work them through. And suggested. I i like at the visit a lot of them. Have this scenario that you sort of have to work out. What is valuable to them. Values might be and then you can create some goals and create sort of right even goals. What what's your thoughts on. How many goals do they tend to walk away with. The phone. Tonight is the how are we that. 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Just such an incredible woman and she has created this networking group of pay a lot of people on different businesses. And she helped me pretty much market outed to everyone and we had it on the council website. What's on Again thank you very social media marketing straight out over the networks that already have the clients that i'm sorry it was. It was a little ground words that i had. I had an tell us about the the wasn't issue presenting. You had other people presenting as well from the majority. It was actually just me. But what i had recently. John was founded as a slight sunday standing. On what professionals jane wenham. Why and so. I get it in. Attainment seven of the officials Way we explained the roles of have how it helps when he isn't and so they can say incredible on ecological of when when you would jettison able and while infants he gets Whereabouts have panel of people so accounting finance and planning plus say fool paperwork. 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Yes i've found out everything about them in the and have i really drew down goes. Have we really talked about the trade off of each for all the different. Id's considering You would think it comes down. I wish it dade Working for myself. But it's also fair enough so you get the information in but then you go on a personal level you go deeper and i guess because as soon as the personal meeting starts you're in your instantly sort of going you not sort of doing that. I think you'd get more quality from conversations because all of the nitty gritty basic. jonah interest. john. You get to the real. I so let's so let's say you've had a workshop with somebody you then doing. The you know the in dip sort of discovering meeting prices there. How long was that meeting. Go for and sort of with you. Take them an hour now. Known of quality compensation where it used to be back at night. It used to be an hong of data entry. Not really you would still. You'd still make it. 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Then way make the no more review that way would Check out strategies are going anything that's involved in there and then we use the technology Biting used how are we going strong new situations. What could happen to the plan that we had in place not to me to tweak or improved from it thinking now just gonna change quickly little bit. I'm whether the nine come from. How did you say the business. You know where the nine come from. What made you decide to go with hell. He's is howard. Something now doc. Night just at the moment where there was however wolton Seizing halava but may on wanted they. Nine sure represent but also what it does. So i think people used to get skidway Both have enough money to save financial planner. All that just a no. It's it's creating site hello to relatives cliche as that might sound. If he's not on it can come back and tell us about the business. You said up. It was just you to stop with has grown over the last three years just little me. I was doing twenty different hats as very busy. I had now have full-time financial planning assistant much. I also have a full-time recliner technically And now a part time it's like an associate para planet so she's hoping means data entry strategy for me to help to help a night with that come to life so apart from your normal Payments and accountants. And all the other people you need. Ej things starting growing pain which is exciting in luck every modern sort of not stuck in in a particular office in the To work with people from around the country and online. Yes yes so i do have a service. Newport that to use their people that students ice. That's on. I am trying to reduce Compatable comfortable we know mine. Reduce the fights device where possible to your virtually not restricted at actually find. Some homes. Visually can win when you should screen and ensure strategy in that respect but i technically nationwide now did wonderful Tell us about the practice how it's growing in your plans for the future. I'm going to say you never want a plan to me. Just in case the sorry i would absolutely love to have satellite offices and i think my next thoughts of victoria have one in will be fantastic. I would not choose nine title entity and maintained his difference of how the ropes unmentioned really close meet connections with clients and right clients. It's lovely to work with the get along with well and share a stimuli Action to helping helping helping the finances so sit in a will take that model and that aren't passion in that offense. You sitting fallow. But i would love to get to where i can branch out a little bit by the way if i can be online and do financial planning for clients from the back of the caravan troubling australia. Even better i missed. Let's bring maximum. 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But i think is technology into finding the times of the year and the month in the wake that suit a risk to allow people to attend as possible Give the option for in end online. Which is now funding. Have resources so a coffee van to to show up to the winning listed like going to deliver coffee the beginning middle eventually money we needed and then i had this amazing vacant plot just if able to graze on a make it really constable on the next strong one ship on cape official that one saying professional touches on in make people feel comfortable yet. Feelers out talked paypal. Networks advertise and different. Yeah i like using a co workspace as well so when you have levin you have to basically the other people in the kobuk space that you having an event so that they will end up looking out but they could also come along to. The event is one of the People were invited people to the event and that happened a invited a huge database. So that's just an you. We want starring on. 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Episode 6: "No money. No backers. What do you do?"

Journalism Innovation

06:19 min | 3 years ago

Episode 6: "No money. No backers. What do you do?"

"We used to make this podcast available to and to make it available to anyone around the world if you haven't used anchor before it's a free simple tool for recording industry leading podcast you can use it on a phone or on a computer and you can get your podcast. You can then distribute automatically increment to care that to spotify apple podcasts or wherever else people are listening and it's super easy but simple fast and it's free us And you can download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started with it. So let's say you've got this idea for a startup that you know is going to help people but you've got no money no backers and no product yet. What do you do to move forward. You may be closer than you think. You're listening to inside town night. i'm christopher clark and this week we're talking about bootstrapping. Strapping is this technique that entrepreneurs us when they're figuring out how to get to the next step in their company even when they don't have all of the ingredients they would traditionally need to get the job done last week i talked to non ideal opinion. Somebody who knows this strategy better than anyone sometimes these visions as clear as they are in your mind. You need to convey them in a practical way. So that's the way it is. It's like building just the prototype just enough to get people to understand what your vision is as production company. The emblematic group specializes in immersive journalism. The idea is that traditional news stories. Don't get people close enough to actually feel the news. So noni creates virtual reality experiences that transport you into the scene of real events like this one in this scene called in la participants stand in line for food outside of la food bank and watch a man collapse a diabetic seizure after. Not getting food on time okay. Shoving ninety spent years trying to convince people that building out. A whole virtual reality scene for a new story wasn't completely insane. Nothing like that ever been really done in journalism before so to get to the next step. She had to find a way to prove her idea at the time. She didn't have a team of programmers or designers journalists to help her out so rather than waiting for all that she stripped her product down to the most basic concept. Something entrepreneurs called the minimum viable product. The minimal thing i had to do was give people an experience of being on a street in virtuality where they felt present on scene. Ninety scraped together about seven hundred dollars of her own money to buy avatars on second life. That sort of look like the real people from the story then. She had her intern build her a virtual reality headset. The second life characters. Look a little janke and in a couple of these videos. Some of the headsets look like they're nearly duct taped together but none of that mattered because it was enough to show a few key people including the woman who programs the sundance film festival. Ones noni hundred ticket to sundance. It became much easier to recruit other volunteers to help build out the real experience and the day. She finally showed her product of the festival. Something magical happened. It was there that i was like holy moly because people were crying. People were down on the ground. Trying to hold the seizure victims head. They were talking to them. They were a bit the reactions. Were so extreme. That i became clear to me that that was going to be a viable way for me. To tell important stores these days nones getting featured in videos for buzzfeed and gets phone calls from companies. Like google and that intern. Who designed her. Vr headset yes. Yeah the guy who started oculus rift crazy right but nineties works not over. We do use a three printer out of my mother's garage to her goggles. Still some still bootstrapping. Whatever they have to do. however i'm going to have to get there. I figure it out and you know what it's doable. Hard work but if you believe in something you know what that hard work could be a lot of fun building. A minimum viable product. Like noni date is one of the best ways to get outside validation for your idea but there's another even more basic reason you want to do it to test things out for yourself. Meet my friend. kim. I'm working on a project. Which at the moment is cold. Kitchen chapters it is a digital storytelling project. That takes you inside people's kitchens to show you. The role of food plays in their lives. That can kim's newsroom new zealand. She's used to having a crew to go out with her on a shoot here in new york. It's just her and her idea of so. Basically just learning on the fly. Kim needs to get a sense of what equipment she'll need. How fast she can turn the stories around how much each episode will cost her in time and materials and whether these stories about food or powerful enough to hold an audience's attention so before there were too many deadlines expectations on the line. She decided to create her own minimum viable product three stories about food presented in an online page. It's just the really bad bones but going straight to the essence of what my project is about. Which is the stories to take one kiss looking. So i started off with out classmate king Because i was really nervous about the whole thing. And i wanted somebody who is understanding and he knew what i was trying to achieve. That was it was really good to have a friendly face by starting with the friend is her subject. Kim was able to test out the timing of her shoot and figure out all the elements needed in each video. Without any of the pressure that they probably know more than with an give myself credit for but best of all after weeks of thinking and planning. She's finally doing the one activity that got her into this. In the first place telling stories it feels really good to actually be doing something material to be producing what it is that. I want my sight to be producing full time so i suppose in that sense. It's a very significant stick. Kim says the videos not perfect and she has a lot left to learn. But it's good enough to at least show a few people what she's got cooking now. She can start getting feedback and streamline production. So that when it's time for her to start reaching out to funders she's really ready for all that money. I'm kristen clark. And i'll be back next week with more stories from inside nights.

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Indigenous Incivility (ep 249)

MEDIA INDIGENA : Indigenous current affairs

38:44 min | 2 weeks ago

Indigenous Incivility (ep 249)

"Louis from winnipeg this media and digital episode to forty nine. On this week's indigenous roundtable crapload of controversy did and indigenous member of the manitoba legislature crossed the line when she claimed the governing conservative party quote. Just don't give a crap about indigenous women and girls in this provins speaker of the ledge shirt so new checking the member for refusing to apologize or withdraw or so called indecorous language. Meanwhile not so long ago and indigenous. Mp in new zealand was also ejected from that parliament for not wearing a tie or as he put it a colonial news in a moment. We unpack unpack. Conduct is just a usual tempest in a teapot of petty politics or thinly disguised thig unruly. Ill mannered savages. Who refuse to behave. I they'll allow us to rise on a point of personal privilege to thank those who empower this. Solemn chamber are patrons on patriot. And that includes new patrons like nyah at a dollar fifty every month kira and taku nba at three as well as valerie at seven meanwhile coming in with their one time contributions via pay. Pal are dwayne at twenty two dollars debbie at sixty and jennifer at one hundred and last but not least thanks to harmony for her use of direct deposit to contribute two hundred and fifty dollars. Thanks to you all clearly. There's lots of ways to invest in our work learn how at media and digital dot com and joining me back at the round table once again are in edmonton jim. Alber associate professor in the faculty of native steadies university of alberta kim. Hi rick and vancouver. Candidates collison associate professor in the institute for critical indigenous studies and the graduate school of journalism at. Ub see candice. Hey now mr speaker before we hear from doctors talbert calls. I would remind my honorable colleagues. That protocol demands that all discourses to be routed through you rather than directly at one another. I would also remind you that if you want to take part in the proceedings you must be standing. Please do not sit on the arms of your chair or on your desk with your back to the house. And i hope neither of you have a lectern lectern. You're not allowed us election for the course of this. Discussion must be in contemporary business attire. According to tradition and practice men like myself must wear a jacket shirt and tie standard dress. Which of course. I'm doing ascot's turtlenecks are big no though from the house of commons procedure and practice rules of order and decorum and decor is the order of the day as our topic. This week. Lines us in a recent question period at the manitoba legislature according to the cbc manitoba mla by the name of noni fontaine was asked to leave the legislative chamber recently for uttering the word. I may have to bleep this out crap. Which is considered unparliamentary language in the manitoba legislature. The andy. Ps hani fontaine accused the provincial government of stepping into it following the homicide of jenna williams whose body was found recently near the red river. Fontaine said no member of the progressive conservative caucus contacted the williams family to personally offer condolences. She said no moulay expressed remorse on social media. Either even though they're quote so apt unquote to tweet an orange shirt day which remembers the indigenous victims and survivors of residential schools. Fontaine then went on to say this is indicative. Give a crap about indigenous women groner order order. I think the member probably knows full. Well that the language he was using is parliamentary in the house. And i'm going to ask her to withdraw. That statement will member for saint. John's i will not be that was unparliamentary language Most times when people are asked to withdraw on carbon entry language. It is something that they are more most willing to do. Sometimes we get caught up in the passion of something. I'm going to give the member another chance to withdraw those comments and conclude her question down while member for saint johnson. There's a slaughter of indigenous women. And i ordered not order. I will give the member one more chance Out of courtesy to give some further important thought to that and ask member one more time if she would be willing to withdraw her on parliamentary comment while member for saint. John's ember has been given three chances to withdraw her comments and i have requested directed instructed the member to to do that. I have no alternative but to name. The hattie fontaine the honorable member for saint john's pursuant to our rules for disregarding the authority of the chair and to direct that she withdraw from the chamber for the remainder of the sitting day. Of course the other voice you heard there was out of the speaker of the manitoba legislature. Basically saying why don't you leave the house for a day and think about what you've said put in the corner being suspended from school. Yeah honey fontana not an insult. Because i don't use children as an insult She reminded me of how honest. And obviously i'm right in just that is small child will will be when they're like. I will not do that. I don't know maybe that doesn't sound good. But but young people before they're corrupted by the culture of settler civility know. What's right and wrong. I really liked her. I will not. I will not three times. I think it's a really powerful stance. She took You know. I first encountered her because she wrote a really powerful op. Ed in teen vogue of all places About missing and murdered indigenous women and girls mean so she's been talking about this a long very publicly in different venues so it i mean she standing. I guess in a place of real authority in the actually in a very similar way to hurt my teens and kids stan in that same place. I think you're right. Can there is like a. There's such a powerful clean place of standing right when you're very sure of what it is that you're saying and how you see the world Could you have chosen a different word. Crap i looked at the history of crap. So here's the thing it It came about in the english language. Like around According to this when guy. I read he wrote a history of swearing His name is geoffrey hughes and he said it came about sort of around the eighteenth century but there was actually a guy called thomas crapper invented. What was an earth Are you sure like you since you okay telling you. He invented the crapper valve lists water. Waste preventer and so when historian actually claims that he's the reason why crap is called crap but it actually apparently predates him but he definitely enshrined it in a certain kind of way. It's wow okay. There was comments obtained from The right honorable. Brian pallister the premier of manitoba He was quoted as saying. I think it's shameless. Political behavior to try to cast aspersions at people. I admire her effort with respect to this. But i don't think it's right to try to score political points using the death of manitoba as a lever. Oh just how clever white supremacy as are so clever right. I mean you can take issue with the manitoba and part could take issue with a assuming that this is kind of a i guess. I can't say bipartisan in canada. You definitely have more than two parties up here right. Yes in theory. Yes theory in theory more in theory than in the us multi partisan that what you would say sure you know. It's it's deflecting. A critique of structural racism and anti indigenous racism. That's thread throughout obviously thread throughout the political structure. And trying to make it out like it's just a party party political move. You know which is a great clever deflection. I mean this is what white supremacy does all the time. it says. You're you're structural. Critique is nothing but politics well after her rejection the cbc reports pallister question period. Fontaine's actions were quote unquote shameful because quote. These are issues. we should all be unified behind unquote. So i think really the problem. Here is honey fontaine. How dare she so well. It's interesting rate that they choose to police her on this in this way and i think she's right to call out the kind of a performative around things like orange shirt day. Even you know to some extent around And then my wg as well you know where there's this sort of proffered concern and yet when it comes right down to it. It's really hard to hold these same people accountable Without kind of getting extremely angry and she could have used any word other than crab actually reminded me of my super religious mother who would have gotten upset with me. If i used a even crap would have been. You know an unacceptable where to us when i was growing up so really. That's the one you should be able to get away with. This is again like a an interesting moment for them to really kind of punisher in a way or it's meant to punish her by asking her to remove her statement which is attempting to hold them accountable and get her to strike it from the record and she refuses right. So it's over this word but it's not really it's over her move towards accountability and away from performance. While she was hunting fontaine was later quoted as saying a word. People should be more enraged disgusted with the issue of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls rather than the word and she says she stands by her accusation. The the government's failing indigenous people in particular indigenous women girls and Those who care about them. It's funny how this service tactic or framing or whatever you wanna call it continues to have legs right this idea of civility and propriety by just coloring a little bit outside of the lines that becomes the focus and it's it's amazing it still has a capacity to to to stir people or to have people dismissed outright. Do you know what i mean like it was laughable to me to watch. What's her title of the speaker speaker. Yeah so this parliamentary stuff yet. That's because you're improper. I know i am. I am agreeing and civilized. Thank god but it was kind of laughable to watch watch her it just showed how the sorta how white for jill is just built into the system. You know i. it's jim. I'm going to give you another chance to retract. That comment to strike it really. Because i'm sitting here in an ascott on the you on the crapper smoking a cigar. If you're going to put forth a motion if you know what i mean can you please. But no case so let's always nice to go to the dictionary. Merriam webster says improper means not proper such as not in accord with propriety modesty. Good manners are good taste. Such as improper language not suited to the circumstances design or end improper medicine not regularly or normally formed or not properly so called and finally not in accord with fact truth or right procedure incorrect. And i mean it's just funny. How on every level indians do not belong. We run afoul of the rules. Indigenous might as well be synonymous with indecorous and we should mind our tongues when speaking before our non-indigenous superiors. I mean it some ways. This is so normal. It's normalization right. yeah okay anyway. That's my rent. Well i really noticed too. So noni fontaine. Since the first time. I will not withdraw my comments and then the speaker comes back. And says i'll give you another chance and then hani fontaine jumps in and says we're talking about the slaughter of indigenous women and that's what she goes order order so i actually think the word slaughter she also found lacking in decorum like you're not supposed to call out what's really happening and so when you read the definition right. It's not only that. It's it's lacking in civility. That might not be factual so. I think there's a not so subconscious disputing the fact of the slaughter of indigenous women. That's what the temptation is to just say yet. Another example of settlers settling just being so persnickety about these silly little rituals. Well that's how they have on their side performative civility because an actual fact it. They've been pretty violent and disgusting so bite as well. Pretend to be civil. You know you can at least be civil in parliament if you're out there sort of erasing slaughtering and you know excluding people. Well it's funny where canvas. I've been shooting each other Dm's about people challenging the idea that we should debate everything as if as if a debate is a neutral concept a a neutral structuring bit resolved indigenous. People are human or not you know. Sometimes that's what it feels like. We're debating whether or not we should be all upset about ongoing genocide. Yeah you know because we give a crap. I it's interesting right like even just as we've been talking. What really stands out to me. Is the authority structure here right. So the speaker is enforcing what is considered to be civil or in good taste and when you start going down those sorts of channels. There's a ton of sociological literature. That looks at taste. I only was exposed to this in graduate school but suddenly all my experiences of Feeling like i was in the wrong class. Let alone like the wrong Ethnic slot You know they all came flashing back to me. As i realized that these authorities structures are set up especially around kind of policing taste taste ends up being a stand in for class or ends up being a stand in for a certain You know role that's played in society. And so you really hear that kind of authority that the speaker embodies really also embodies that kind of position at authority gained from setting the frames of what's considered civil what's considered in good taste and i think it's really interesting. That in honey fun tena is saying. Listen actually what's happening out. There is horrible. It's a slaughter right like she's actually kind of twisting at all up on its head that you're civility is actually allowing slaughter to continue. Which makes you uncivil right like. There's a there's a flip there that super super powerful and powerful in part because the speaker is relying on all of this sort of built up authority that is embodied in some sense of what taste or good language is considered to be. Well reminds me of something another end ep. Or said this time at the federal level talking about the trans mountain pipeline. Going ahead and romeo saggy nash. He was on his feet when he said when the prime minister says that this pipeline expansion would be done what and as minister ads got. That will not be able to accommodate. All indigenous concerns what that means that they have decided to roughly violate constitutional duties and obligations from sir. Mr speaker sounds like a most important relation doesn't it. Why doesn't the prime minister. Just see the truth and tell indigenous peoples that the doesn't give about their rights and he wants a time wasn't he. He was wearing a time. When i say i believe so. I believe fifty percent civility. Mark does rocking. So i know that was a big sacrifice for roy but he did. He was admonished quickly by the speaker. The member firms. James us experienced member knows that is on parliamentary language. And i'd ask him to withdraw the word and apologize. mr speaker. what is happening is so insulting that it just makes me so angry. But i do throw the word. Oh he withdrew it out. Withdrew the word like it never happened. I was wondering why he seemed to get off easier than fontaine did. But she refused to withdraw. Ya know she She took no crap. She kept her crap on the record. Gave the word crap. Cracks me up because that was our favorite teenage girl word in minnesota. We always say that was like our number one word of crap. Oh crap oh crap we would say it all the time so when she said it was like that's not even that's not even a swear word. Is it all the time. But not when my mother could hear me. Swear is i guess it goes without saying that the opposite of proper the opposite of playing by the rules is is your radical and your not to be taken seriously or you're a threat or you're a danger right or you're refusing right like that's the address simpson intervention rate. She's a anthropologist but she's written a lot about how indigenous people have continually refused. Refused the way that you know. The archives have framed us and said what they think that our ancestors were doing refused. The kind of you know through cutout places that are meant to be wearing business people can speak but also obviously how how they speak right. So i think that that to me is one of the the sort of powerful ways of looking at what ninety contain is doing is that she's refusing. She's refusing to have her words struck. She didn't use what would be considered by most normal people to be a swear word. There's there's you know no reason why he needs to be corrected so this also reminds me of a more recent controversy a maori. Mp in new zealand who was ejected from their parliament for refusing to wear a tie. Now i told you earlier. I was reading from the standards and protocols of the canadian parliament new zealand's. It's the same rule you you're supposed to be wearing business attire and The leader of the maori party was objected for for not having a tie where he was wearing instead was It's a pendant. I believe with a greenstone town guy yet semi i think it means i thought it meant treasure but so that said i didn't know they called that big stone. It's yeah those green stones are everywhere right. They're not everywhere but they're beautiful on special. Yeah let me. Just read an article here from bbc news the speaker trevor. Mallard twice prevented rowdily. Whited see from asking questions. Mr white sea said that It's not about ties is about cultural identity mate. He describes ties as colonial noose. He said he was wearing maori attire. Do you see these stories in the same light. Yes settlers settlers protocol sticks up there but trying to make a big deal out of little things. I mean it's a total total exercise of power right. What pointless but not why. Go to the wall for this stuff. I sense you like big deal right. Whoops big crappy. Dot can't find the right way big deal. Somebody's not wearing a tie. Somebody's using a word. That is very informal Is it just to show people who's boss. I mean at the end of the day. Well rules are about First of all structuring interactions. But they're also about exclusion. Right you have to be willing to follow those rules toe the line as it were and so how you express righteous moral anger. That's absolutely based on evidence. Hasta fall within those standards. And of course anger is anger and especially. If it's justified there's gonna be some pretty harsh words as people have shown us in the two stories that you've mentioned And and whether or not they're willing to retract those from the record. I mean what's interesting is. The record is really for future generations so her you know honey unwillingness to strike it from the record is an intervention in of itself. This is the thing though right because not long after. We're talking literally days after this confrontation about Mr whitey not wanting to wear the western style of a tie. He actually has a suit on and a nice shirt and a cowboy hat was focused around this one particular item. The requirement was dropped days later and the speaker Announced that They've decided to scrap the thai requirement after a meeting of the committee. They just said it's it's done and he said as speaker. I'm guided by the committee's discussion and decision. So therefore ties will no longer be considered required. And so it makes you realize and this is why i think it's important. It's it's has nothing to do with the tie a tie or no tie or one words. Okay another words not like its who gets to decide. That's ultimately re- inscribed the item in contention or the word in contention is arbitrary. Yeah it is. It's it's really about enforcing a certain decorum which results in people being either asked to leave or told to strike from the record so rick. You're saying the committee in new zealand's parliament So they felt like they retained that that settlers retain the right to decide but as long as settlers retain the right to decide. They're okay with making some changes but they just have to be the deciders like bush once said it's kind of insidious that way. It's almost like they have their cake and eat it too. Yeah you're right. You know what who cares about a tie. But i'm the one who gets to rule on that reminds me of a dysfunctional patronizing parent. You know who has to be the decider. It puts indians in their place. Any chance to do that. doesn't matter how seemingly trivial or well. I mean you see why they have to keep doing that though. And i think about the slippery slope argument a lot so some people might say well if we allow you know and hani fontaine to use the word crap or we allow people to do this or that. It's a slippery slope to the breakdown of civilized parliamentary society or something. But you know. I actually think the slippery slope argument is not a deflection. I actually think it's true. I do think there is a slippery slope because we can understand these seemingly smaller claims as rights being claimed within a broader suite of rights to self-determination that could be claimed including land back. So i do think they're trying to hold back the tidal wave of claims that these seemingly small claims might be a bigger part of people. Talk as if the rules made themselves set themselves right so they don't allow that they're arbitrary human design malleable. But doesn't i mean don't people say over and over. Civility is just just code for preserving the status quo. Yeah what is the rule of law so speaking mount toba. I'm looking at an article here. God help me. From the winnipeg sun entitled anti protest bill tabled at the legislature. And it says here. The provinces tabled its protection of critical infrastructure. Act sound familiar It's also referred to as the anti protest bill bill. Fifty seven was designed in the followed of the protests in support of the wet sautin hereditary chiefs which ground the rail industry to a halt but the justice minister for manitoba cameron freezing says it was not written because of the blockades. The bill would allow on application the court of queen's bench to establish a protection zone that bars people from protesting on critical infrastructure. It may also designate an area where protesters may gather the bill list forty different types of infrastructure which may be deemed critical provincial trunk highways railways personal care homes courthouses oil and gas pipelines food processing facilities grocery stores radio and telecommunications infrastructure. Just a a quick a smattering of some of the different types of infrastructure. Alberta put forward similar legislation last year. But it's currently under constitutional challenge. oh no honey. Fontaine is quoted. She's of course she's the mvp house later. She said the provinces out to silence people that disagree with them and that the designated protest areas are not good enough. It's it's trying to impose decorum and strict limits. Like you must stay in this space. I mean this is an old by now tactic to sort of label people as threats to critical infrastructure. And how many times have you heard people say indians. Don't play by the rules right and getting lots of extra benefits right and when we talked the way we look and now the way we protest is always a threat. You know a threat to order a threat to civility a threat to propriety a threat to good manners and good taste. I say let's interesting because it's not Something that the public has participated in making a rule about or that. Protesters have made rules about right so it is really about the maintaining the authority structures and the rules are meant to apply to those who are not in authority who would need to protest rights and what avenues there are to push back so a protesters are pushing back in one kind of way. An hanifa contained is pushing back in one kind of way And they're continually met with like you said you're not doing it right our the only way in which you can speak or speak out so i enjoy these moments of agitation. You know when indigenous people inside the system i mean we're all inside the system to different lesser degrees. You don't get to live outside colonialism but people that are really inside. The system like who are in parliament. It's kind of interesting to watch them. Have these disruptive moments. I really enjoy them and cheer them on. Even though overall i question being there is a way to make headway on indigenous rights. So let's play a little game here just to put all this stuff to the test. I liked I don't really have a name for it. I'm just going to call it. I want you to listen to this clip from the ontario legislature. A recent brouhaha basically. It's an excerpt from an exchange between mpp saul mama qua- he represents The writing of coincidental and he has put a question to ontario premier. Doug ford essentially asking. What is the province doing for urban indigenous people. When it comes to vaccinations so let's take a listen. Remember not what not to speaker miniature about. My question is premier speaker. We know in speaker and did this. People are over represented and correctional facilities and living without homes and urban areas there have been multiple outbreaks and first nations and among indigenous people dude to the incarcerated Into this community members having covid. Nineteen upon release mr speaker. Public health units have acknowledged rapid spread of cove it among those and correctional facilities and people without homes. It should be a critical priority for these groups to be vaccinated. I ask again. What has ontario down to work with. Endogenous lead health providers to vaccinate vulnerable question businesspeople as part of phase one priority. Roll up again three mr speaker. That was one of our highest priorities. Go into thirty one. Flying communities and not only did orange flying in but the member flew in to to get his vaccine. So thank you for for doing that. And kind of jumping. The line as i talked to a few chiefs that were pretty upset about that or flying into community that he doesn't belong but that's their ornery of also providing eleven million dollars in emergency martin. The first nations tribal councils impede t os to address. Urgent needs antero. Prioritizing residents of the first nations elder care homes and flying indigenous communities as part of phase one of our vaccine rollo. Alright kim and candidates is that more conduct or a member of the legislature. What i know it all know nothing. Settler politician gross proper improv. Wise it improper. I mean that the speaker didn't chide him and tell him to get the hell out. The premium ford was allowed to drop innuendo without any hassle whatsoever from from anybody in the house. Except for if you folks you could you could hear their Making noise so well. Here's wearing a tie. Anything is crap or he's allowed to say inaccurate unwelcome. I mean it's so interesting. He was forced to apologize right. It was all over twitter. It was so interesting even the a regional f. n. chief for ontario went on twitter and said listen we we need him to come in and get vaccinated have pictures taken because there's so much hesitancy around the vaccine in our communities is really important. We want him here. Actually ford saying that was flying in the face of you know all of these important practices that were already in place around around kovin. It's so you know that he would be seen as jumping the queue when he's in fact encouraging and supporting a program that's set up with those communities in mind by those communities. He was invited. Yeah yeah i mean. How clueless was he about You know didn't understand. Vaccine hesitancy and indigenous communities. Of course understand that you have to understand why which is histories of medical experimentation abuse. You know within science and medicine so there's all of that stuff and he's just acting brushing it aside like it's not important right like this. This isn't the scituate. And maybe he doesn't know i don't know but it wouldn't be in his interest understand anyway because then he would have to recognize structural racism and so he has to make this individual. It's your individual failing. You know your the individual problem. This isn't a structural problem. It's you as a corrupt to indigenous. Mp who's quote unquote jumping the queue. Well and i mean it's particularly egregious because it's buying into this idea. The as we discussed in the last episode of the brockton can that indigenous people have special rights. I like this is a double dose so to speak of special rights. It also is dodging the question that he was asking about urban communities. Because i noticed when saul mama Responded to the apology was super interesting because he was like. You still have an answer the question you know. Thanks for your less than ninety. Second call but i actually want to know what's happening with urban indigenous communities because there is no real plan to address those who should also be first priority but are living in urban environment. But you know it's interesting There are some legislatures that will get very upset. While there's a house of commons that will get upset if you use the r. word kim. Why did jug meet. Singa kicked out of the house. Succumb has reminded us yeah. He was ordered to leave the house of commons. After calling bloc quebecois mp allen or elaine therrien -tarian racist for opposing a new democrat motion meant to address stomach racism within the rcmp authoritarian. I mean how could you know. You can't even do an analysis of racism. Then if you can't use the word what are we supposed to say so just just so. I know what the rules are and that they're applied consistently. Apparently it's improper bad form to accuse somebody of racism in the legislature. But if you actually make a comment many would decry is racist like doug. Ford did no problem. No one gives a crap of about that right. No one gets sent to the crapper for that good. I'm just glad you know that everything's consistent across the board because after all rules wouldn't be rules if they weren't consistent you know what's really striking to me when we think about all of these cases together whether it's doug meets sing or the honey fontaine or saw mama qual- is that they're getting caught on can points of order points of you know this is how things should be or how things should be done. And you've clearly stepped out of line and it's really interesting. Because these structured interactions that are part of being in a legislature a parliament or any of these sort of Governmental they're really meant to in a way suppress outrage right. How do you produce outrage about things that really have to be dealt with like racism like murdered and missing indigenous women and girls like the fact. There's no plan for urban indigenous communities to be vaccinated right. So i think this is the this is a real challenge here. Is that all of these people in various ways expressing that like you there needs to be attention or accountability or these questions have to be answered and and in fact you know if you pay attention to many of the narratives of why people go into public service and and run for office. It's to ask these exact questions to bring things to people's attention and to bring them in you know in a powerful way because they're sitting in a supposedly circle of equals and yet it's these points of order that Get rid of flashed in their face when they're when they're calling attention so it is a it is kind of a profound thing to think about all these cases together and realize that they're all you know in some ways facing very similar battles To bring attention to do the work they actually came there to do. Just remember one of the basic principles of procedure in the houses that proceedings be conducted in terms of a free and civil discourse emphasis on symbol. I wanna thank you both for this free in civil discourse today you thanks. That's it for media digital episode. Two hundred and forty nine recorded the afternoon of tuesday march sixteenth. Two thousand and twenty one. Thanks again to kim. Talbert associate professor in the faculty of native studies at the university of alberta canada research share indigenous peoples techno science and environment and thanks to candidates collison so shift professor in the institute for critical indigenous studies and the graduate school of journalism at ub. See thanks for listening. We'll talk with you again soon. Our theme is nasty bureaucratic.

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The Challenge: Die Another Jay

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The Challenge: Die Another Jay

"Hey i'm leah. And i'm ali and we're sisters who watched trash tv together and this is billet a certain. Hello everyone welcome. Back to this podcast. You are here with leah and alley. We have to die another j. So i'm like so mad that they titled the episode that because it was such a spoiler a really was did they not think about that. It was a clever and name. But i don't know it did. It does give it away. It would have been better if they named it that like i don't know last week or something like when he was heavily involved in the episode but to do it on the week that he's going home like that's just so i don't know so lame of them and i was so pissed already because of course i follow cam and leroy and I was really trying to stay away from spoilers but you know of course leroy post this cute picture of him and cam and like all cute. Let me read the caption. And then he frigging says cam got her skull. Now i got mine. I'm like are you kidding. Me like leroy. Don't put that the same night of the episode like a lot of people. Don't watch bright. Like live i know. Did he get any. Hey comments about it. Oh man. I hope so because the deal and i'm very he did that's crazy but good though. And we mentioned this. On our life after lockup podcast. But if you don't listen to that podcast. We got to really find reviews about the challenge. So thank you guys so much and we're so glad that you enjoy listening to us because nobody else watches with you so you can gladly come here and we will talk all the shit with you and you can send us any. Dmz you want us to deep dive on or you have and we'll bring it up on the podcast absolutely. Yeah thank you guys so much for those reviews. We love them so much. Yeah so yeah. Let's let's just get into it. I guess so sad. It was also also because roy to it was just was mixed emotions. It was named this episode mixed emotions. That's what we should've had titled yes that would have been so much better. Or like theresa sucks dot org to our talk. Sic theresa talks toxic. T is a corey calls are at the end of the episode. Yes oh my gosh. So yeah so we're posted a limitation and You know jay is trying to do damage control but he also staking by his decision so he's not really doing a very good job so he's not at all like talking to kyle inquiry and being like you know like i just like i don't even remember what his explanation was but they're just like no dude like we're still mad at you and then in his item he's like yeah like. I don't owe anyone an apology. And i'm like okay. Well then you're just going to have to be okay with the house being mad at you. Yes until they're pissed off at the next person and then leroy jumps in and leroy is super pissed. Because cam went in. And i don't i mean i get leroy's and but then i also don't because it ended up being okay for cam and she got her gold school so win that kind of erase the surprise factor of it. You know what i would think like. Okay i'm pissed but whatever it is what it came to be a good outcome for us so you saw what i won't hold it against you type of thing. Yeah i would hope so. Or i would think like it was just so obvious. That theresa was the person who made all of this happened. Because she was going after ashley and cam and so i just hoped that they would see that and give jay a little bit of a break because he just kind of was going along with her plan. But that's not the case no entries that comes in and tries to save jay and say look. It was my idea. He was just going along with me because what was he supposed to do if he had said not. Go against that decision teacher. It'd be like okay then. Y'all are coming down so he didn't have a choice but to go with her. Yeah exactly and i mean he just was trying to make the best out of shitty situation. I think i think he got like the worst partner. Like she's just so terrible partner because she's just so easy she is messy and she's not as slick as she thinks that she is. It would be different if she was pulling noni vibes because noni is really like playing the game in the background and nobody's focuses on her. Yeah she's making sure that hal. Like checking in with a rookies feelings. And harry doing like you. Don't pay theresa any mind. And she's really like pushing the theresa narrative so that is stay off of her which is very very smart for her. This is like a good game for her to be playing nineties. Doing good staying out of the drama. This season i feel like typically she's That's not her strong suit. I know we've had no cup of noodles. She hasn't like we haven't had hurricane drunk noni at this season. I miss the cup of noodles so cut. Oh marina so yacht. Everyone's pissed theresa. Everyone's pissed ejei. That's just like the theme of the episode Then we see this little conversation between ct and theresa where up good morning. We're still sleepy. We're just going to have a little chat and just talking about how the rest of the game is going to go. You know no big deal. And theresa says durell name. I know why. Why would you say that theresa using. Cd's not gonna say anything you think that he's going to be the keeper of secrets. He's not it no. It's so funny because what we see throughout the rest of the episode is like this out somehow but also c. t. is like i remember this conversation. Why but she must've set to someone else right other like i think they would have showed us. Cdt talking to people and spreading it around. You know. I think c. t. Set it in passing because an isa makes mentioned like theresa's sneaky but so c. t. So like really. We don't know who to trust in this situation. I think that probably made mention to have any. It could have been anybody of passing. But let's just say big t- And that would make the most sense and embiid t went and told all of the rookie girls which includes amber be. And that's why be was so pissed about it. all gotcha. Okay that makes sense. Yeah i mean it's like i just wish c. T. would have said that at least to the camera so that we could have some clarification on what happened but even told the cameras. Like i don't know i don't even remember that conversation so it's really not like we're not in the game you hung over. We still drunk from the night before you don't remember he yeah And then we see fancy. I guess trying to make amends is what you want to call this with corey and it was a very weird conversation. It was how did you feel about it. I thought i was bullshit. Came vesey like what are you trying to say like. I get that you are awkward or you have social anxiety or whatever but like what does this have to do with the fact that you were a shitty friend to nelson you know. I don't understand you know we touched on this last week. Where if we lined up all of festivals past girlfriends we would probably see a lot of similar personality traits. And i think that this conversation right here the dialogue that fussy uses has probably got him out of a lot of shit in the past of saying he uses really big key words. That are triggers for people. I'm introverted. I was the shy kid. I'm very insecure. i'm not selfish. I just don't know how to communicate well for women when they hear that it's like oh this poor this poor guy like he's just so tall and handsome. He's insecure and he doesn't know what his because how could how could this wonderful specimen ever be cure and i can't leave he so shyly. It's a it's a trigger for women to like. Let me help you in caudal you and make you feel better but that she didn't work with cory cory. I've played this game. And i used to be a good player with the women in this game so no like yeah. That does not change the fact that you're like i want to go in against nelson. How does that knock you with anything that you just said it. Should you made a decision. And then you couldn't back your decision up afterwards so you shut down because you knew you were being an asshole about it right exactly it just such bullshit. I don't you and you're so right. Exactly what he uses on women it usually works for him in the past but like this is a totally different situation. You're trying to get in some girls pants. So this is slightly different vesey. Maybe we should have taken a different more genuine approach. I don't know. And i think that's approach would have worked and big brother. Let me throw that out there too. So that it's not just all about like the women you know that he tries to prey upon. I think that this conversation would make everybody feel better about him in the big brother house. But you're not in the big brother house. This is a different world. Yeah that's true because it's all about coming off as like not a threat in the big brother house and so that's that's true. That could have definitely worked there before is falling for it. Ho chi l. In his bright ask teeth. they're not falling for the. You pointed that out last episode. I guess i just wasn't looking at kyle enough and like this scene of him in the hot tub. He's heath they're like more than white. How you can get more than white i know it easy radiating light out of his mouth. If you ever need nightlight just tell kyle to come with you and open his mouth. They are illuminated. Yes crazy so then we get to challenge. And i was so excited about this one. I was like this is such a good fun. Like miserable challenge. They're swinging above the water from this helicopter. Hanging on this cargo net wrestle each other off in like what a freaking letdown it was. I know it reminded me. I think it was like a whatever season the first season that's on. Cbs all access. Like the ruins may be season eleven. There was a challenge similar to that they were on a barge in the middle of the water and they had a fight each other off. And who was it the guys or something. They did the same shit they just all stood there like played rock paper scissors and didn't get physical. Who did the didn't some didn't see in someone do that. Yeah in a water to wrestling challenge. That's funny yeah it was. It was very stupid. I mean the girls were fun to watch. Yeah i like. I was cracking up. Because they honestly looks like they were having fun like they were wrestling. They're like all kinds of just laughing. And it was pretty interesting to see that noni and casey were the final two the first he. I thought that was interesting too. I know i was really pulling for non come on knocker down somehow but it didn't have any know but she stayed up there on time and the girls. Were just giving me like awesome power vibes this episode that'll be should've tiled titled who run the world girls because y- kicked ass all episode long. They carried this afternoon and the boys. Because that's what they acted like didn't do shit for us this episode. They all just hung onto the cargo net and it was so funny because after heat to where the boys like. Don't move were just ill. Lame didn't move on heat. Three the girls had to pay for it because then the helicopter starts going into the water dropping your water to like knock them around to make them do something in like keep it interesting which was so annoying. I'm like the guys like the girls. I'm gonna do that. Shit they're gonna make it fun. And so i just. I thought that was funny that they tried to like okay. If y'all aren't going to do anything then like we'll just throw you into the water sure. Tj radio up there like all right. Come on up a level. Thrash around with dr driving the helicopter like evil laughing. He's like land the helicopter. I'm gonna drive this thing now. You know what you're doing. And then we see theresa win the second girl round And it was so. I was so unclear in the beginning before this heat. Because it was theresa and all the girls and all the sorry all the rookie girls and she just starts being like saying these things like you know you have to be strategic and not always use your physical strength than just being very like general and. They're all kind of looking at her like right. I'm gonna fight like i don't know what you're saying and then it's like of course like through the rest of the episode. We find out that she was trying to get everyone to throw it to her. Which was just first of all stupid to try to do. And then second of all like if you're going to do that you need to like be very pointed and clear. Yeah about what want. I'm really so strange especially with people who never played the game before had she said that to enisa cam noni other girls. They'd be okay. We get what you're saying but these don't they don't know how that works. I didn't know either. I was like watch this show for years. And i'm like what are you. What are you saying to them right now. Like what are you asking them to do for you. Is your brain over your bra and like other words pick who you want to win and then make sure they win so it's good for you and when voting rolls around and they're like cool. The person i want to win is myself. Yeah by exactly. I did really really really appreciate us. Not getting any amber this episode. The only thing that we saw from her was her falling off the cargo net and that was enough for me that was perfect. Perfect amber coverage. We didn't have to hear her talk. We didn't have to hear anything from her other than her screaming and falling into the water which is perfect. Yes love it so drew your and then the last group of guys they'd do the same thing. Msci falls off just because he like hold on it. Was i mean leroy nj i will say tried and they were wrestling each other so i think you know at least those guys but see t. josh msci probably too. Because he just. I mean he just fell. I don't know all right. You know they just suck it up and it was annoying because then when they all come back together and tj's like okay. Like you know. It's between casey and leroy and theresa jay and i'm like no no no. Don't put the guys in this. It's between casey and theresa's i'm like first of all you're making a confusing and second of all the guys didn't do shit so like no which he did not let slide. Tj said. I'm not happy about this. You guys saw yes. What the hell was that you know. So they were in trouble. I knew before when he said this off. Shit he's gonna throw a twist in there because y'all pissed him off. You've pissed off the challenge. Dad what is wrong with you you. You should know by now. Most of you should know better and you still chose to not follow the rules you. You aren't meeting but in a way it was still kind of cheating because you aren't trying exactly. Yeah so casey and leroy win by one second and you know. I was excited for them. I was excited for casey. Yeah i mean. I was excited. Yeah lemon because we didn't do anything. But i was excited for them to do really likely roy. It's crazy that it was only one second. Yeah that's insane. Because it seems like casey did it so much quicker which i know like the power of production but editing it. Casey went up there and everybody fell off that her and ninety and then kind of fought for it but one second is insane Yes then after the challenge. Theresa's like all pissed. Um like she gets all mad at ambi specifically and she's like she's just like so sneaky and she like pretends to be the nice girl but she's not an i'm coming after her and i'm just like who are you not coming after like. Who are you working within this house at this point like who she friends with because she's turned her back on everyone. I feel like yeah. I don't know i was trying to think like. Who could she possibly be working with. Maybe anita but that's it and you know. I don't know why i just had this thought i did see online that this clears is the whole. Ct and theresa conversation is that c. T. and durrell came out and said that they had an alliance a secret alliance that they wouldn't tell anybody about and so i bet you see just went straight to durell and said hey this is what just was brought up. Oh yeah of course. That's definitely what happened then. Yeah so that's how they knew so blatantly. Yeah that makes it pretty obvious. That's funny then that that's the person she chose to say that too. Oh my gosh so then we go to club penguin and poetry says just all by her lonesome drinking or drink. No nobody's talking are not even a nissan. They're supposed to be friends doesn't thanks. I think at this point even in isa knows that she was snaky towards her with the whole tori and an isa elimination thing. And yeah. I mean nobody. Nobody's friends with her. Gabby goes up to her. And i thought she was going to be like sweet to her because she's a rookie and she's like. Oh you know let's right. Let's try to get her on her side but then no. She's just confronts her about like. Why did you say you. Wanna put in darrell or durrell. An amber like she did it in a very non threatening way. Maybe it's the accident. Uh maybe that's why i felt like it was. I think she's just like a really sweet person like she's not confrontational but in her own way. That was confrontational. Yeah it came across well though and so drinks is like okay. I talked about this and he will not get up and come talk to. He's like you can come to me. We see you. Yeah and he's just not putting up with her shit whatsoever and she's like trying to save my partner. Okay he's garnett. Yeah but you're also throwing me under the bus so and then for her to like try to get ambi to throw it to her when her real intention was to put her in her partner in the elimination. Like that's just too much doing too much. Yeah at some point you have to lay low and just don't address it. You know to be talked about. Let people believe what they want to believe. And then you can try to steer them a different way but you addressing head on right now is making it worse for you theresa. Guess you figured that out after this episode. She's not playing it. Cool at all and just poor. Jay is just a casualty and all he really is. it really does suck for j. j. justice for j. always every season and then did you realize that you see that after theresa and amber have their little confrontation at the bar When theresa storms off. Because you can't have a civil conversation there amani tapping ambi like. Hey what just happened. Oh my god she's so good. I'm telling you like naughty is in it to win it this season i love that ca- job noni. Yeah and then the other drama that unfolds. Evan just is being devon and he's like who can i pick on right now. Like who is egos as their egos. A little shy like who's not feeling great about themselves. Bessie like let's see what he's up to. Just go straight over there. And he's like just so you know. Nobody wants to win. Devon bowling alley is the worst. I stand him. I cannot cnn. there's no logic in my mind that can reason this out of how this is a smart move. I don't get it. I don't like it. It's gross to me. He was being a bully. I mean he was literally just kicking him when he was down. And it's literally like on the playground. If somebody came up to you and with like just say you know nobody likes you. Everybody your ugly and then you're like okay. What am i supposed to do without information like cool. Everyone hates me. Awesome like i already felt like shit about myself. So he's definitely playing on nat and kyle like loves it too. He was like egging it on They get back to the house. And it's just i don't know like it was bad like i was just cracking up. Because she was yelling and he was was kinda awkward with his yelling and then like devin cuyler just laughing and it was so obvious. That like they're just trying to get you riled up. But he continues to get riled up. Yes and then josh josh of it. All like josh being the voice of reason funny like i was like what is happening. I was laughing too. But i kept thinking in the back of my mind devenir idiot because bessie get through those security guards. If you wanted to beat your ass you would not be laughing. Afterwards at all he would be hospitalized. Yuck do we not run member throughout last season. Yeah what is wrong with you. Like maybe kyle could scrap with him. Because because i think kyle is a scrapper but definitely not devon definitely not debit. No for sure. And then kyle like at one point kind of like puts dukes up or whatever like he's been a fight you can you think bobbing and weaving like what like it was just insanity and they're like drunk Now of course at. I i was so proud of the growth. And you know he's he can't help himself he comes into. The kitchen is throwing water. He ends up like pushing the shit out of devon. There's the josh. We know yano ninety steps up she manhandles. Josh tells devon. Shut up and makes josh go to bed. I'm like yes. See the women are running this episode. They really are it was it was insane. The devon push was a little scary. I have to say like he went flying. He did whenever josh. And i don't think he knew what was coming is like three to one. Yeah i hope that that obviously don't want to see anybody get hurt but devin is kind of like the kid that just to get his ass. Be really good once by somebody bigger than i am. So he'll stop. I can't imagine nobody's kicked his ass. Before i mean honestly somebody has to have. I don't know unless he can just back it up. I don't know like it would appear not because normally people who still keep doing that haven't had their ashby yet. Yeah true and then another girl. Power moment is being like all right guy. So they're just pushing your buttons and we have to make sure that we're behaving ourselves and says he's like i'm not physical and like people don't understand like i'm never going to get physical and she's like came john in her head she's like okay. Sure yes you are You know but what if somebody gets physical with you and then you just defend yourself like yeah. Yeah you're right like she's literally just dealing with him like a child. It's so funny you have. These women need a vacation after this the season because it has to be exhausting to take care of all these men honestly and then again poor gabby is like cool so now we might be going in. We're at risk because you wanted to start some petty drama for no reason. I was scared that josh was going to get kicked out. Ooh yeah i mean that was. I mean that was pretty physical. I mean what's the difference between that and like punching someone. I guess i don't know. It's an act of violence in. Tj does not play with that. So i was concerned because the guys weren't trying and then this happened. That tj was gonna come into the house and say that like devin or at least josh had to go home. Yeah because devon. I mean he's just being a little thuat he's not. He's just instigating drought. He's not actually like physically hurting anyone. He's just being annoying. But it's still promoting violence if you're going to be an instigator you're promoting he is he really is Then we see amber be talking to reza and j and just like put it all out there and being like okay you know. I've just heard these scenes loved to talk about it. you know. Obviously we handed argument last night. But let's figure out what's going on. We have been hearing that you said tyrrell's name it of course theresa immediately ono. That was not that wasn't me of course not well. She said she had a conversation with with durrell. About like with c. t. So she had a conversation about throwing durell in with cd's then it kinda puts them both at fault. But i feel like she was definitely pinning the blame on c. t. o. Like she was basically saying like c. T. brought up name in so i was just there but like really it was more on c. than it was on me. Oh interesting. I didn't take it that way. I don't know. I took an email even during deliberation when she brought it up. It felt like she was just trying to throw c. T. under the bus. Gotcha how know. I guess i didn't take it that way. Because i just thought we were talking about the conversation that they had but maybe that is how she meant it. Maybe she did want c. T just take the fall of that. It came out of cds mouth first and she went along with it. Yeah i don't know. That's how i took it. But who knows she's being sneaky either is yeah either way. It's not a good look for her. Yeah so then again to deliberation and you know jay tries to defend himself for a second in that immediately. Get shutdown theresa throws. Cg under the bus trying to talk about that how anisa's like yet neither of them can be trusted and devon devon starts out the deliberation apologizing for the negative energy. he brought in the house last night. He your he did. Okay was it was a genuine. Probably not was probably just scared that he was gonna get his ass sent home. Yeah for sure. It didn't come off as genuine or even if it was. It's like i apologize for the part i played. It's like no. You started all of it. You should be apologizing for starting all of this for no reason in link just saying you're putting negative energy out there like that just doesn't really cover what you did yet notice josh. And he didn't say shit like we're not apologizing. Forget that exactly which they probably should too. But it's fine and then cam is just lake. You know calling theresa how. She's like the girls to throw a and then she's also basically saying give leroy this moment. He wants to defend me. Let him defend me. Let him get his poetic justice as she puts it yup and he does know and theresa's just misunderstood she starts crying. I was like oh okay. I mean i think she is misunderstood to an extent i will give her that. I think she messed up by trying to be in too many alliances. That's all ways the downfall of people in this game when you try to be good with a rookie girls and then you go and talk to the veteran girls and then you talk to whoever's in the middle you always get caught up somewhere like you have to have one alliance. Everybody has to agree on it. And then okay. I'm gonna go talk to this person you go talk to this person or l. Goes to shit like she doesn't have enough people backing her up. She doesn't have a core alliance and that's why this is so bad for her. Yeah it's like if somebody who was in a really strong alliance had pulled the move that she pulled last week should be fine. She just didn't have enough friends now. Basically right like that's still fine and look what he did. Yeah very true Then they go in though and my only note from voting was that corey was wearing a hashtag gerlad shirt which was cute. All that is cute. I didn't even notice that. that's sweet. It was sweet. So then they get the results ryan casey and they see that. Of course theresa nj arguing to get voted and they try to kind of deafening cabbie. Were at all a possibility. But i was involved for that slash. I also knew what was going to happen. I know i did too. But i did. I didn't know who he. Roy is going to go against. So especially when tj pulls a stunt that he pulls here in a minute. I was like oh shit. Goes how i thought there was hope. Yeah try to kind of act. Like nam could be a possibility. Low is out here and this poor man pulled into the science thing. I just wanna let you know that you could be going in okay like this could all be on u unique zeev ready. He looks like you just saw a ghost. he's terrified and i'm watching from home wondering where did this come from. why just. Because he's doesn't he doesn't really have anyone in the house only person he has his j. and jay's going into that would be like an easy person to throw in against him. I guess this is the throw people in against their best friend season. So yeah but he's i all too so i just thought she was trying to get him back for last week. She just wanted to scare the shit out of him for not being a good communicator. Yeah she was not very comforting allegation. Like even if you were worried about that just maybe say it in a less aggressive manner lolo. I don't think. I don't know if that's possible for her. It's all aggressively not. There's a lot of aggression a lot of pent-up aggression which site i watched the after show last week. Oh you did And it's with a devon is the host which she on the challenge back in the day. And i love her. She's just so adorable and he can leroy were on their Fasih tory noni and jay and noneya tran thought gall naughty goes noni talks about how close she was with lolo which i was a little shocked by that. Okay she goes on to say they are talking about the issue with a low and non and their communication. Yeah noni said that. The whole entire time. Lola was addressing their issues. Non non issue with her and her issue nam to ninety and approaching it as if they were in a relationship. Why so. he's like she'd just really everything every issue. She was approaching it and facing it as they were dating in a relationship but like non was unaware of it so so off. Glad one things kept getting so tense. Because she's acting as if they're dating. Yeah really yet and ninety. I kept trying to tell her. You've got scale back you know. You're not in a relationship and everybody agreed. Yes that's exactly how it was with her. She would bitch about him and it was all as if they were in a relationship. Awkward isn't it. I got so shocked by that shocked. I mean it makes sense though like when you just look back at how she behaves with him and it's so funny because this is such that season of like switching partners and so it's inevitable that that's going to happen at some point like why do you think that like this is your partner for the rest of your life. It's just not that serious. Because i feel that low has scared everybody all the women and men in the house of like there will be no changing partners for him and i you know. I think she got her series boys. She backs people in a corner and told them. Do not take nam from me. That's what i think. He's just over. There scared for his life blink twice if you need help me save me from though. Oh my gosh. So yeah we get to the elimination and it's very obvious that leroy is wanting to go down but before we get to that. Tj like gets mad at them verti- last night in a all the shoving and the yelling and the blob law And then he says okay so all these guys who didn't participate in the challenge. Your vote doesn't count. And i got so excited i was like. Oh this is cool like maybe it will be Devonish gobbling dots exciting and it was still j. theresa so it was like i don't know it was just very anti-climactic now that i'm thinking about it went to set it that way because i just finished the episode. It was an empty threat. Because let's think about this if the partners voted the same way which they most likely did from what we saw. It appeared that they did. If you cancel out the guys votes. The girls votes are still there so the votes are still going to be for theresa and jay because they voted the same way as their partner. Yeah of course. Oh it really didn't do anything to them. Just scared them for a couple of seconds and made her heart. Stop that that's it. They should what he should have done a said. Now it's a double guys limited to going home. I'm not would agree. Or i thought he was going to say everybody which this would have been epic. Everybody who all the guys who didn't participate. You have to come up here and partner off and then whoever your partner is this who you go against and it's gonna be like a mini purge. But then there wouldn't have been enough partners for the girl so it couldn't have happened but it still would've been. Yeah yeah he definitely could have done something with a little more punch. It's like you're gonna bring it up like if you're going to let them get away with it. Let them get away with that. But if you're going to bring it up then let's do something that actually is going to have an impact on the game that literally did nothing So that was really or even if like beforehand before they voted he told them guys. Y'all don't get to vote ryan like it's just the people who participated the women and whatever two guys that participated yar the only ones who get to vote because then it could have changed the dynamics of like oh like now. Who are we going to vote for. You know it could have impacted a little bit more. I just yeah those lame. I think it was enough to scare them. A gentle reminder of. I'm still in control. You people are not heed caution going forward. Don't piss off challenged add. So yeah it's still j. Of course leroy goes down Ver- excited to get his justice for cam and yeah finally. Somebody is putting themselves down to get their gold skull. I mean good. Lord were halfway through the season or at least half of the skulls have been given out right And this has never happened yet. Which is so crazy So hopefully this kind of starts like more people trying to win so that they can go down and get their skull. I hope so. And i was wondering if they're trying to keep low and non from winning and trying to keep them out because they don't want them to have a gold skull because they don't want them to go to the final. Maybe like saint smart tactic. Same thing with amber in michi- why wouldn't you throw them in. We know their weak. Whether you are taurean an isa fan or not. They are so why they put them in to try to get them out. But i guess if it's off chance to puzzle and they get a gold school. You want to keep them out of the final so just don't let him go. Just don't pay any attention to them. I guess i would. Just be like yeah. Put me up against amber. That's just the most obvious thing to do And then another kind lame episode. It's the same elimination. Took actually out first time with natalie the very first elimination fire escape We've already seen it and they just doubled the length of it. So do so different. I go thing else. We couldn't have gotten like a poll ratzel. The hanging one own had a puzzle. Elimination yet. haven't out like a member where it's like knowledge of challenge or something you know like let's mix it up a little bit. Let's spice it up way have we. We have had a trivia episode yet. Have we for the daily challenge. Nothing else to becoming. I hope it's next week that would be it. Would have. I love the idea episode. Eight or nine. It has to be coming up. that's exciting. Oh my gosh. that is exciting So yeah they're they're pretty neck and neck leroy You know is slightly ahead in the beginning. But i eventually. He just turns into like this inchworm on crack and just goes so fast thing a pre workout. What did he out because leroy was ally in flying. I've never seen him react like that in any type of elimination or dangerous challenge. I was so impressed. Me do i was so i was was again. I was laughing because it was. It just looked funny to like the movement and you just going so fast. It was comical. I us it was very shocking. He did get caught on the very last hump to going back in a little worry. Jay was gonna cut him but j didn't even make it last hump at the time. Leroy completely finished. And so i have to give it to the editors because the way they shot the scene and then the way they did the edit on it. It was so dramatic. You could hear camp screaming in the background. I wanted to win doug. I wanted them to win. But i- lovely ryan. I think that he hasn't got all the credit. He deserves on his time at the challenge. Though he said this is his last seasons. I really want to see him. Go far. I got emotional abortion for go keep going to like the emotional part for me was like just seeing how proud can was him and then him like loving how proud he made her like just their love and connection was so surreal in january and like pure i was like it was like made me a little emotional to like the little lovebird island in seeing everybody cheer for him up there. It was so igniting it was good moment and then him saying like that. Just made me feel so proud. It was great. Give me the warmest. The show rarely rarely does anymore normally. We're like what the fuck is wrong with this parcel. Exactly and you know jay if sweet jay is going to go out in any way i'm okay with him going out this way. It was all very cordial and jays like all right. Leroy like go and win it and you know it was. It was sweet so it was. I was fine with it better than jay going out with a frigging concussion because Was it fussier. Was it Rogan who like murdered him last season. I think that it was right. It was rogan. It was rogin because it was out jordan. Ironically ironically on yeah the ir irony. Ooh and he did it twice. Now he's taken out jordan. Ya so by sweet. J leroy gets his gold skull. He has a decision to change partners. And of course he doesn't that would have been such a weird decision to make And now by default theresa in corier together in corey is not very excited. I wouldn't be there. Tori is final story. Oh my gosh. Corey correspondingly. Doing the right thing for once in his time on the challenge and he just keeps getting screwed over with partners. I feel so bad for ya. I know it's he's had a rough go of it and then of course is like all of his partners have gotten sent home so and i'm like pitch if you go home it's your own damn fault plead as a matter at this point who your partners with their targeting you. They're not gonna forget they're pissed there's really no other girl to target that has made waves so all of the attention is on theresa. It's not gonna be any different next week. Yup i really wish that devon interests that would be partners because they're both like so messy like so unnecessary like starting drama and being ridiculous this season i want them to be together and just have to get a taste of their own medicine. He would definitely throw her in definitely. Yeah orey So yeah that's the episode What else is going on in the challenge world and trying to think if there's been anything happening lately we can talk about that tiktok that i sent you. Oh yes oh tori did this tiktok. That was like this guy woke up at my house at st over last night and he asked what's for breakfast and i said i'm ovulating so these eggs until it was like supposed to be a joke i s i think but it's like number one if you are being serious. The person is probably cia to you guys. Better not be doing anything. If you're ovulating because i don't know if you want that lifetime commitment that you if you look at the comments i didn't know they were bad people getting a lot of showers not here for her anymore like they are over tory. Yeah it's hard. It's hard to be a fan of hers right now. I'm just telling myself she's going through a rough patch in she'll get past. We all go through tough times in those inner. What about sorry keep going. Well i was just gonna say like i listened to last week's episode of her isa's podcasts. And she said that which like no judgment to people who smoke cigarettes but she said that when she got kicked out or when she was eliminated touring. Hey that she they take you like this hunt like basically a honeymoon suite is what she called it a beautiful. You know cool sweet for you to stay in because you say there for like three days and she said she was just like going completely insane and she's like i don't smoke but i went through three packs of cigarettes. Who had like. How do you not smoke. And then you smoke three packs of cigarettes in one day like that doesn't tell you that this girl is going through a rough time right now than i don't know what getting rolling spheres circa two thousand seven vibes from this. Yeah well. I know that she used and she again but i know that she used to smoke weed because last year i believe it was she had posted. It's my one year of being. We'd free like i don't smoke anymore. And i know that on her podcast dealing with tori dealing with she did a whole episode about marijuana and the facts and steph on it. So i guess that wouldn't be so drastic like if you used to smoke weed all the time and then two cigarettes still going to burn your lungs and it's going to be in a different way. Doesn't have the same effect on you but she was still young inhaling it and stuff so i'm wondering like because obviously she drinks so like i'm wondering do they just not give her alcoholic. Didn't give her enough or something. 'cause then she says she basically continued to on bender like when she got back home That she just like drank profusely for days and liked smoked. A bunch of cigarettes for days. And just like i guess. I got some of her friends together from lincoln's hometown or wherever and just like went on this crazy bender probably knowing that like knowing what was coming she was just like having so much anxiety and freaking out that she just like did this to herself. And it's just like that's just kinda sad to me like and that's why to me. I'm like i'm going to be a fan of hers. Even though i just feel like she is going through it right now like. It's just a lot for one person to handle it. I don't know how i would handle what she's going right then coupled out with it all being broadcasted everybody's looking at you everybody's looking at you relationship everybody's people you don't know yes and they ha they feel like they have a right to know everything about your person all life because i mean you can argue when you put yourself out on. Tv like that. Hannah people do have a right to know like we don't get mad at me for asking questions when you put all your business out there in the first place. I need a timeline of their relationship because she did that interview. Where we're with the girls from barstool sports but it's called something else. I don't remember what their podcast is called. Like out of the office or something like something in the office. Yeah and so. She tells them that they had trouble for a long time. And go on the challenge. But he was at. And that i was kind of like their time apart to see how the relationship is going to work out but they've been broken a four and she was begging him not to leave her then she gets back and then i don't know win. They decided to call it off. Because she's when they announced it on social media they had already broken up for months Kind of already gone through all of the healing or the hurt. Why think they made it official like were officially breaking up as soon as she got back from the challenge i was like i think they of said when she left to go on the challenge like this is either going to make us break us where you know if i go and do this and i'm just missing you're missing me and like it will make it clear that we belong together or we're going to see that like this just isn't meant to be and we're not you know not nobis missing each other whatever and obviously like. She did start to develop feelings for fussy whether she wants to admit it or not. Like that was just obvious on screen. You could see it and just from that other. Cast mates have made whatever. She has only admit to it but she did which i understand her not wanting to admit to it too because she's gonna get more back lash. No if she says y'all like i had a crush on him. It's going to be like you're engaged in. It's like but y'all don't know the full story and he was pushing for them to be in this open relationship. It's like a whole other thing that we have nothing we don't know about until i'm like i get pasqua so she wrote her little children's book which looks really cute and she-she's you know i think she's trying to move forward and something else dramatic just needs to happen in the challenge universe and then everyone will forget about her stuff and she'll probably be fine and i just don't think that she's found herself yet. I think that with every guy that she dates that too she becomes. She's a chameleon to be alone and find herself which. I don't remember how old she is. She's younger like she is. But i will say like. I didn't feel super confident in myself and like set in my ways and know who i was until i hit thirty. I feel like after. I hit thirty. You just don't have these insecurities anymore that you used to and you fill you fill so grown into yourself and caught in who you are and you just don't care about little shit that you used to. I guess filing adult. When you're thirty. Even though i was already married and had kids third cousin that marker for me at least of yeah things that bothered me no longer bother me and confident and who i am and i. Can you know if i'd ask things that i changed things. You're just meant to grow as a person. And so. I think that she needs to get there. And we forget how young these path are. She's twenty seven heads. A few more words marched march seventh nineteen ninety three so she is a pie. You i see yeah. She's got she's emotional. Like somebody i know myself got the running in different directions like the heart and the head or pulling each other so i think as she just unlock growing to do and she'll find herself she has good routes. It should just figuring out where she who she wants to plant those routes with and it doesn't have to be every guy that you come across on the challenge Yeah please just like being. I am that. She's back home with her family with her parents. Like that kind of is a good way to just reset like go back to your reacts. Remember you are work on something that you're passionate about. How children's book. If it's you know sweetheart her business with her friend like whatever. It is focused on that and he malicious lake. Get rid of fussy if we can. But we'll see what happens during is older than her. I don't remember how much. But i know he's older. I mean i think that he's probably set his ways and said in his mindset and she wasn't gonna be able to change as much as she probably wanted to our thought that she could. Yeah that's probably what happened and He's didn't seem like he was really ready to commit to her as much as he thought he was. Anyway aso when. I'm glad we discussed tell that was a long time coming But yeah that was the episode and thank you so much for listening in like we mentioned at the beginning. If you haven't left us a five star review and renner review about the show dot really helps our show so much and we love to see what you guys think in What you like about the show and we're so glad that we can be here to just feel like two. You know friends two sisters hanging out chatting with you about your favorite reality. Tv shows and Go follow us on instagram. 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The Challenge: Lady Vengeance

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The Challenge: Lady Vengeance

"Hey i'm leah. And i'm ali and we're sisters who watch trash tv together and this is spilling cistern. Hello everyone welcome back to spill a sister. Podcast you are here with leah and allie and we are freezing in texas right now guys. It is insane. It's going to get worse. We feel like we're in iceland and we're being suspended and we're having play trivia. We're going to fall into the ice water. That's how cold it is going to keep getting colder. And i'm not okay with it. Yeah we possibly might get snow. Which is just crazy like. We don't get snow over here and the people who are from the north or probably just like cracking up but For us it's very exciting. I'm not excited zero percent. I'm excited anytime. There's a possibility for snow. It makes all the cold worth it to me like even if it's just five minutes in. It's a little flurry. And i can throw one snowball and my husband. I'm happy Now it's gonna be teen degrees used shave. No thank you. 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That's right that is right. I love that Aright while enough of the nonsense. Are you ready to jump right in. Yes i do have some news first for us to recap some challenge news. Okay another week and they are in the top spot for reality. Tv show so they got the the highest they again. They weren't number one of all time like on everything that aired last night. They were number three. But the first. You don't really count because it cnn doing like special coverage so they were number one in a category. That was not news. They were number three. But had cnn not been on they would have been number one. I'm so proud of them. I feel like it's good season. It is a really good season narrow eating our next point. I don't know if you saw but nelson irks with corey and hagar There was another special guests there. Yes am amber be was there. Yes wow i dig this. I ship this i i am. I want this relationship okay. So like for me. Obviously this one nelson you're just like in love with no no so if i just like look at them next to each other like beauty. Perfect stunning Now when i think about the personalities that is an interesting match. I'm not saying they're not a good match but they're very different. Like i feel like amber be is a little like a little seriously early said how she liked comes off you know on big brother and in you know obviously on this season and things like that nelson is just a big old goofball in so the balance is just going to be interesting like but i mean yeah i like it would be a good balance. I'd be able to have a great relationship. I think she's completely different than his last girlfriend. Yeah she was way over the top. Kuku fly off the handle. Get angry feisty. Very very spicy gorgeous womam but that was a toxic relationship. I think that if he was in this relationship he would not end up on dr phil for couples therapy. No thought she's got a good head on her shoulders from what i've seen like i haven't ever seen anything to the contrary. So you know good for nelson. I just want happiness for nelson more than anything more than anything. But i do you want i really want happiness for nelson and they both have a very like i. Guess lighthearted approach to life as far as like though being seeing the positive side of things which is a good like fundamental. You know that's a good values thing to build off offer for really. Yeah so. I don't know it made me happy. I like it. i want to see more of it. I think it would be a good grownup relationship for nelson. Yeah oh my gosh. And they went on a double like trip together. That's a pretty big deal. Oh i don't know that was a coincidence. I have no background but everybody is taking vacations together. Taurean bessie are going on vacations together. Nelson amber be a. I need a vacation to. But i'm afraid virus and josh was in mexico. I don't know with who he didn't show anybody else keeps went by himself But everyone's out. Yeah everybody's out just traveling nelson said i guess he had issues with his flight on the way back as he lives in. Austin she has to be an austin by friday because he has an audition. I don't know what the auditioners for interesting like challenge people acting. Did you see t made a movie. A horror movie and starred in it learned not recently like. I can't like that's hilarious. He's like you had like a psychological thriller. Okay c. t. Because he he was promoting it really big when the challenge wasn't on so we weren't talking about the challenge over his instagram. Like he did this wrong. He needs to promote that stuff when he's in the spotlight like come on c. T. do not have a pr team. Yeah you know we call us. We'll be your pr eighteen. Have for real. I love to see it. I wonder if there was any connection in the house. too bad. Nelson's already gone it even if there was we wouldn't have seen it because mtv just likes to shit on our dreams of showing this to us here out only like to show us festive. Making out with people like cool. Did you see that. In the preview identing gabby and i'm like and trailer. Yeah i was like okay like cool fessing making out with another person like it was an intense make out it was. She was laying down. He was leaning over to her. It was you know fell. He had his hands on her hair. The drunk make out though it was but it was intense that ended a certain way. Probably anyways we're going to say. I don't apparently a nissa and amber had a confrontation this episode to show us. Oh really interesting. I listened to the. I thought that is so annoying. Okay because they haven't showed a lot with amber. Am eight her her in her. The anita issue yeah. I almost wonder. Because i is before i knew that i was thinking. Oh they're making her to be the villain they they need somebody to come back every season to be the villain that we don't like and we don't really want but then after hearing all of that i don't i don't think they like i don't think they wanted to come back. Maybe because why wouldn't they show us that to really lay it on thick of ood. How much you don't like her. The more that i've heard producers and interviews and stuff talking about like they're casting tactics their tactics during interviews things like that they're very cognizant on the challenge of people just coming on the show for fame like they are not about that life. They want people who were there to compete. Like to make a good tv show to tell it you know a story. But they're not like it they can see right through if you're being fake or like putting on for the cameras just because you want to appear a certain way or get more followers or whatever and i think msci and both did that like they both were just kind of fake and just trying to like get their you know their famer. Whatever and so. They're like screw. You were just going to like cut you out of the as much of the show is we. Can i agree with that. It'll be interesting interesting to see if it's true. How next season plays out. Yeah i don't think either of them will be back. I hope not are well. Are you ready to get into some lady vengeance. Let's do it. So josh has earned his skull against me she And we have amber as our rogue agent and we already have like cam just ready to calm for theresa. She's just like all about that immediately like that is her plan for the week. I'm coming virtually saga. She's ready to pouts. She's ready to take the kill. Yes and amber is just like a little puppy with their tail which weiner your legs kin i still hang out with you guys like even though she got voted in or whatever she's being so annoying asking everybody who is one person voted for me endeavour. Take this opportunity to shit on big brother. You know of what show was she prom. Yeah he did he try go on brother and they said no big brother so much because there is deep rooted issues here with devon and big brother. It's so funny. I think he's just jealous of how good they are like manipulation and lying like he wishes that he could be that good at those of the show. And it's like he's i think he's jealous because they do like they develop some crazy like manipulation and lie tactics on that. Show that i you know you don't really get anywhere else. It's it only happens in the big brother house because you're literally trapped in a house with people for three months. Yeah i know so far all the majority of the big brother contestants that we've seen have all been good competitors. There's really not been any layups. Yup yes so. I just feel like he sees it as the new people coming in like stealing the thunder and so yeah any opportunity. He has to talk shit about them. He does it and he totally throws amber under the bus. And he's like don't be stupid like she voted you in let's be real yeah We see noni in cam talking and cam is like kind of asking noni what she wants to do and on his like i mean i don't wanna go up against theresa like her already. Beat me. I want to be by her again. Which i'm like you know. I love the honesty. Naughty i two. I thought she would want a little bit of revenge. She she's not gambling with this. I mean i don't blame her. I wouldn't gamble a million dollars going up against teresi either. She's a great competitor. She's very strong. Yeah noni shas not um physically ready for that yet. I don't blame her and she's a good competitor to but yes again. I'm not not that bet. She's a little small lately But we love her like therese's not getting any easy skulls this time around like whoever she goes up against it's going to be someone to take her out So then we finally get the amber amber confrontation. And i mean you know. We're not big fans of amber. But like munoz. Line was so funny where she's like. I'm just be straight up with you. I don't deal with fake bitches. And i feel like that's what you are. I was like it likes hot. Just rip the band aid off. I am not the biggest amber in fan. But i will give it to her. She seems to be very transparent. She or word you. You see what you get you get what you see. Yeah there's no sugar coating it. She's not trying to manipulate to be friends. Which is not a great strategy in this game bright. So you really by you doing this. Even though you're the rogue asia and you know you're safe you now have the whole big brother alliance against you just because you want to be honest for the sake of being honest you have nothing going for you right now. You just screwed yourself yes. She's not very smart at how she plays the game. Where you see like why amber be made it so far as she did on big brother because she's so quickly able to like thinker and. I'm sure she's been thinking about it. Like oh yeah a during this conversation. But she basically blames it all on devon and turns it into. We'll like i have always heard that like you and gabby were working against me. And so i just i felt like i had to make a move before you guys did. And i'm so sorry you know it's just it's such big brother moves in. i love. It was to flip it around on her and be like well. I'm sorry like. I was just getting insecure and i was listening to people and i shouldn't have because it like just puts the blame on other people. You know. I just thought it was so smart of her to like quickly away out. It was a good. It was a good game move. It made amber m continue. To get a little heightened. She was angry about it and ends up walking arab. You just sitting there. Her being bagged chalice can be not breaking a sweat. and then amber ems like while. I'm voting for you next deliberation and ambi like gay cool like that. Does that means nothing. Like if she knew her. So that's one vote. i mean nobody else. She has a whole other big brother huge alliance. And i don't think that amber be with iran behram especially with some of the comments. She made later in the episode. Realizes how far the big brother lions reaches like. There's there's arms flanking us from the big. It's one big sticky web. Yeah you just decided to screw over. Yeah and you're not a part of it And you think you're like apart some big alliance not so anyways. It was just funny that she thought that was such a big burned to be like eminem. Vote for you and bright cool an amber be eventually says i knew it was gonna come down to me having to pick between two alliances. Yes i built this rookie alliance but all of my loyalty is with the big brother hawaiians. And that's what these people don't understand is that they're going to have multiple alliances. They're not gonna tell you know fuck you. I won't be in your alliance because that's not how big worse sleighs the game. They know to an alliance member one. Never say no to an alliance and that is the biggest difference between big brother and the challenge. When i watched it the challenge will straight up. Say no fuck you. I don't want you in my life. Because i don't like you. I don't like the way you made me feel. Yeah here we love it so much and then of course amber. M's a little tattletale like runs straight to gabby and she's like amberg be said this about you like that. We have been working against her in like. I know it amber be stands for now amber. Backstabber i thought she was gonna say bitch but she said backstabber. Mike actually that mean. Yeah like ooh bad ass. Calm down we get a interesting little scene between therese and corey. And i'm like come on guys won an episode to make us come around on theresa though i mean good lord you you have me right in the perfect spot lonzo. Did it like her. I was ready to send her ass home. She had done camp wrong. I was ready to be done. And then you're gonna do all of this it. Make me like her. Come on this episode. May be very emotional. Yeah in more than one spot of this when she opens up to corey and she's talking about postpartum depression. I just felt for her. And it's such an easy thing to relate to and you've when you're a mom and you've had multiple pregnancies. And i'm glad they talked about it. Yeah i was shocked because the challenge doesn't deal with stuff like this usually and i know a way to do it and they did it well where it's like don't harp on it. Don't make it a super depressing episode like but you can acknowledge that like this is a real thing that like women struggle with and talk about it so that it's not taboo and so that women going through it know that they're not alone in their things. You can do to help yourself right because there is such a stigma about postpartum depression and theresa's explaining what she went through in her feelings. And so you have all of those feelings and then on top of it. You think there's something wrong with me. And i'm not good enough to be a mom but i don't want to let i don't want anybody else to touch my baby or them to do anything with like. This is my baby. So i love that. She was able to explain all of that. I love that corey. Said you're helping me understand my girlfriend so much more right now. That was amazing. I wish they would have put a little clip up in between commercial. Break if you're having this type of feeling or you've gone through this. Here's a way to get help like everything else. But whatever reason this wasn't important enough to do it with women's rights issues a lot of time. No like you know you. Don't cancel people for like treating a woman badly right can cancel them for other things. Just yes then then. This is the last thing that i'll say about this. Then we can move on but this is why. It's so important if you have friends if you didn't go through it or you have friends who recently had a baby or they're pregnant. I always tell everybody. I tell all of the moms if you have any type of crazy failings after you have this baby you have to let me know and i asked him afterwards like yes. I want to know how your baby is. But sometimes we don't check on the moms and it's very important to ask them. You have any feelings. Do you need anything. Can you may talk to you know judgment. This is normal. Yes so the thing to ask your friends and pre warned them that you're gonna ask them when they're still pregnant so they don't found the handle at you when you're asking after they've had the baby yes. You've done a good job of preparing me for that and yet to all of our listeners. Like i'm pregnant. So if you're going through that reach out and we'll chat about it like we're yeah. We're a sisterhood on spills this podcast will help each other out so never feel like you're alone if you're going through any of those feelings yeah or less than because it's completely normal. Oh yeah. I don't even know how insane i'm going to be but you know we we all know it's coming and we're here to. Yeah yes so. That was a sweet moment. In immediately to us having casey and ambi talking and amber be talking about how she feels like. It's like mean girls than here. And she's being picked on power to like down to the floor. Mean girls accolate me. Like you can't handle it. And casey casey so unfazed by all of it she is. We're playing chess. you have to remember. We're playing chess. Everybody else's playing checkers. Keep it together. This is how you start slowly breaking them down and picking them off by getting them to mentally break and be pissed at you. Yeah casey really is like the queen of being unfazed by anything lining tips from casey. The only time. I've seen her like shook about something was when all that shit happened with nani where people were accusing her of lean on her. Like years and years long girlfriend which i mean we may or may not have seen video footage of that happening but what i'm just saying like that's the o. Rien i've ever seen her be like a little bit shook every other like nothing. I've ever faces her. Yeah maybe we need her on the podcasts. Casey give us life advice do that. Please help us Yeah so then we get to the alad the daily challenge and you know it's sponsored by burger king get excited we were just talking about the last season so yes burger. King is back in and it's also trivia day so yea burger king and trivia. What a what name. I better combo i can't truly can't i do have to say before we get into the daily challenge. Why did they need to give us a shitty jenna. Relationship flashback right. what was that about. So there's a new show ghosted. What's it called. And i don't know if we got a new. I felt like maybe. This is the second season i think it's may then be like a third season. It's been around a little. But i think it's either picking up steam or they're advertising it more whatever yet it actually watch The new episode that came on last night before the challenge. Because i was just okay. There wasn't doing anything else and it was pretty good. I mean it's it's like a cat it's basically cash. You know the best thing you're ever gonna watch but it's interesting gotcha. Okay so that is why we had to hear about zach agenda because of this ghosted sponsored ad. I'm like there's no other couple. You could have shown us like the you go first couple and showed him getting her though worst. That's what i was about to say. The no there's no other couple because name a more toxic challenge. Couple will yeah. You can't exactly. Maybe carl maria and polly show show their instagram clips of them. Saying what was it whenever they were in the hotel room. Oh my god. This is like bringing me back unlocking memories. Never that was like a couple of seasons ago. They i remember they were in the open relationship. Are they resume. And we were in an open relationship. But then and then. She's like asking him for permission before she said anything. He was like camera being super controlling of her but then they were like just kidding yet. It was so weird in like manipulative. They had anything weird happened on the show. That's the difference you know. I don't think he treated her like shit or vice versa. While filming that's true it. But zach and jenna every season i mean that's the thing. There are stacks and stacks and stacks of clips that they could show for this ghosted. Like i don't know. I thought they were going to show the clip. Where jenna filming she calls. Zack was ghosting her. Yeah i know looking up any of her phone calls then when he did pick it up. he's like brooke. Like who the fuck is broke so true. I'm like can we not like. I am very much enjoying not having them on my screen so like let's just not with that couple anymore. Thank you yep. hurry back to trivia. i don't like that. It was true and false. I know it's so much fun. it's so much easier. And then like they just started going through and doing just like kind of montages of people saying true or false and getting it right or wrong until it just took away a little bit of the fun of it. My favorite one was when they were strapped into that little thing and they had delayed pick the right answer and then they would get like slingshotted up into the air and Shoes we're flying off. That was the best one that was good. Looks really hard. Because you're on a rig over the icy cold water. They said what. It's forty six degrees. You're the fold on monkey bar style and they're going to slowly start stretching you out so you can see how hard you can hold on and you know. It was windy up there. Yeah it looked really hard In some of the questions were so easy and some of them. Why no hard it okay. Let's go through the questions that they did do for what we can remember in. What's in our notes. Let's be honest and say like what we knew the answer to of what we did. Okay okay okay. And i mean a lot of these. I didn't know so like okay. Did you know the square root of one ninety six. no square root was. I'm like corey night to figure out. What a square root as i. I'm like okay. Well i at least know that what he's saying is fourteen times fourteen one. Whatever number one ninety six. Yeah i would not know d you know that how is there. A tra- how do you know what you just do. Fourteen times fourteen in figure it out. Well i mean. I guess this is how my brain works. I would do like fourteen times. Ten is one forty two am. I don't know what i would do from there. I would have literally gas like. I don't do math. my brain doesn't do numbers. I can spell anything i can. Yeah your grammar. i can't do numbers a complete idiots when it comes to numbers. The only reason i was. I'm used to be horrible math that the only reason this was so fresh on my mind and i was like. Oh okay yeah is because this teaching my son how did you multiplication with two double digits three digit numbers. So gotcha come on get it together. Yeah he's obviously not home schooling. Mom i also thought i would not of known the answer. I would have guessed on the house of representatives verses. Women getting the right to vote thing. I would not know that the time line of that either i was. I was not sure okay. So i did know that because the woman did it not. I don't wanna say as a joke. Because she wasn't she basically to be savage. She was like okay. Well i'm gonna run. I don't have rights but nothing's blocking me from running ocala ran and she beat her competitor. Who was a man and she held office but she could not vote for herself is in the election. A what appointment. I love that. Do we know her. I don't remember. I feel like it's susanna or i'm gonna have to look it up but that for whatever reason that name coming to me love her. Ct got the question of how area fifty one and it was so it was like true or false. It's like a government agency or government location in southern california. It's not and i felt like that was wrong. But i was not one hundred percent. Sure it's in new mexico. I believe i felt like it was like narrow zona like one of those thirty places but not kid is which i know. California has desert's to but like right. Anyways i wasn't sure on that one and then we learn a little factoid that he has actually stormed when in search of aliens which is just. There's this whole other side of c. T. making you know horror movies and storming areas one that i would love to know more about. Do you remember a few years ago. I don't remember win. Because i have no perception of time since we've been in quarantine. When was the big facebook group that was going to storm area if one of the government and the military had come out. And say if you do this you're going to get arrested. Yeah it was a huge plant and their hundreds of thousands of people in this facebook group. Yes i'm trying to correlate like when that was within the last year but it was something i'm within the last year. No i think it was so i think it was longer ago. Let's say i have zero tie code. I thought it was during covid. No i think it was pre covid I want to say it was maybe two thousand seventeen to look it up. I think it was a while ago. Okay well maybe he was part of that. I'm sure he was a part of that group. Maybe an isa gets a question about all the king on in all the king's in the car deck having mustaches yard wrong and i'm like that's such a random just randomly to know. I would have guessed that. They all have mustaches. But i'm not sure. Yeah i I didn't know that one kyle killed me. What had kyle good. They asked our. Tj asked if pie had so many numbers in it. Like i don't remember it was like a lot of numbers. And he's like true. Only kyle infinite. It doesn't stop. It never stops going. Like i know that like believe me. I know that. But like in the moment. I didn't know that you know what i mean. It was one of those things where like hope. Because in a moment i was like infinite. That's exactly what i said. Adding cam was like screaming at him. It was so funny and then lolo represented our country in the olympics and thanks washington. Dc the state law. Oh no girl that was bad. That was bad. And i was confused because it it came right back to her again like she got two in a row and that happened to a few people where they had to like. Answer to questions in a row. Okay i thought it was because they were at the end you know like the kyle was at the end and he was very happy to cut the it happened in. Kyle not lola. Sorry yeah so. I think it's because he was at the end and then he just went right back the other way. I don't know why doesn't make sense but not years. it was. Yeah i loved the. What is tj sam for. Apparently it's thomas who i would not have known that devon. Get the question about lola. Which was really funny either. I don't know anything about willows life. that hazy. Casey thinks that wolves are vegetarian. That was bad. That was bad. I'm like so you think that. Like if you see a wolf in the wild in the forest like you can just go up to it and pet it. It's like regular dog or what about other. Mary's like a dog at your house is also not a vegetarian. She knows that right like dogs. Like domesticated dogs eat meat. I guess i mean. I guess if you feed your dog kibble only you don't think about it. We feed our dog raw so he gets raw chicken raw beef. All of that kibble. It has in it like. That's it's on the bag like it says there's meat in his there. Wolves technically they're evolved from wolf. Yeah that was that was bad. I loved it was so good. It was that one question. i couldn't let go. He gets the every season. One trivia question. You just look at somebody like that's really what you decided to say. Yeah and casey was the winner. This season i also loved to see kyle just like hanging on for his life. That was really funny. He's just always has a flair for the dramatic. He does and these wetsuits did not do these boys any justice while they were hanging there in the cold weather. Poor boys not impressing anyone on. They're not getting any. Dm's episode no. They're really not. It was really cold. You know what are you gonna do. Yep ends up. Just being devon's orell at the end and devon ends up falling on the unicorn. question I did not know that so the it was as The corn animal of scotland. Yeah i thought this was the loch ness monster i didn't. I mean that. I can see how that would make sense. I didn't know it was the unicorn. I i learned wrong. I know whatever confused. Oh did he say that was fall. And i think he got it right but then he fell. Oh maybe that's what it was. I'm not one hundred percent. I don't really remember but anyways it's very random if it is the unicorn to me it would make so much more sense for it to be right now if any mythical creature like. Why would it be a unicorn over the loch ness. Yeah we gotta get to the bottom of this. Because i did enjoy finding out that iceland has no mosquitoes. I was jealous of not fabulous. Love that for them. We got all the mosquitoes we have all of. Iceland's mosquitoes came here. Yeah the scotland's national animal is the unicorn. Okay well they just have a flair for mythical creature. I i wonder the loch ness would be ireland's maybe ireland. I always thought loch ness was like a scottish thing. But who knows this up. Like i love trivia because i love making fun of people for being dumb but it also like always makes me feel slightly dumb too. So you know there's just like two sides of it right. Lot ness is scottish. But can't they're national animal. Why the unicorn then anyways whatever we're not gonna focus on that for too long heat number two big t is just like really doing the most and she is so scared used to be noni. Who would freak out like this and scream at tj. And tell him no and shut up and hurry up. And i think big teen took the crowd away from noni. Yeah i mean how are you going to out beat. Big t and being dramatic. you're not. She is drama queen to the way she was screaming. No she was the house screaming. No and her lips were shaking at the same time. That is talent and it's so funny. Because she says small gang all the bars you could just see all the bars at the different height levels and hers is like down so low for her to like reach up and grab it. It was hilarious Yes she came barely like even answer the question. 'cause she's screaming so much. I didn't write down any of the questions for this round needed. But you know we got through some of the good fun ones. From the beginning. I felt i had reu those ugly. The only one i remember is when they add when tj aspect t who had to go. I obviously if at all triangles two hundred eighty degrees and she's a true my ten year old. No i at least know that. I will say math is a no for me geometry. I'm much better at it. Took a buzzfeed quiz the other day of like. Can you name all of these. Different geometric shapes and i got one hundred percent right on it. You look at new. She's saying and then yeah they asked cam was a can someone. Yes but if a straight line was one hundred and eighty degrees. And i'm like yes it is but they didn't call it a straight line. They called it a straight angle. A straight angle. Okay yes so yeah basically a straight line it is a straight line by on hear angle. I can see how that would mess you up. There you know osha. Is there an angle i don't know about. Yeah that's so true We do see a little bit of back and forth between like amber be and gabby going back and forth at each other nam is also going for. Gabby we have going for gabby And then we have gabby going back at josh. Like this one was more about like seeing. Who's on whose side it was so it was very revealing But ends up being cam nam and fancy at the end. Like he is just not sounding. Well he's sounding like he's struggling allow. Yeah he is and he does his usual got you man. I got you trying to get a job. Like don't worry. I'm going to cover you if anything happened. Just let me win. This always the fussy and josh always trying to pull this shit. Total big brother move hanging on the wall. You make a deal to get someone to drop cam was doing so well Bungee kept putting her does out. Arrests and tj was getting mad at her and then when she kept reaching for that sidebar. She got herself eliminated because it was an isa saying it was like a safety issue to like. It wasn't just about like. Oh it's easier to hold on that way you know also like it was a safety issue and so they had told them before like you cannot do that because i guess with whatever way your arm is angled. You could hurt yourself. So that's what i was thinking. If you slip while you're holding on you could potentially break shoulder or your arm. Yeah so Yeah cam falls and Fussy falls nam ends up winning the second round. And so it's between nominee durrell which is just perfect because It's like is going to be nomin lolo or is it going to be durell any number be and of course we really wanted it. I really wanted it to be amber be In that is and go. I do so. Because i can't handle low having any more power. Go to her head. Oh my god. I don't need to hear how she's an athlete anymore. Should wait. she's a what i know it. Shari breaking news. Alert the media. Did you guys know that lolo. Jones is an athlete's. she's an athlete as rainn athletes. I cannot with her reminding us of that. As if we don't know you're wearing your frigging olympic stuff every other day like we get it. We know i thought her talking about her celibacy was going to be annoyed knowing the season boy was. I wrong wrong so wrong. Oh my god well. It was really exciting that ambien deroga- free walkers for a life or light one year no one year the whole life and durrell has kids so this is really gonna pay off honestly maybe that's why nelson's hooking up with amber. He's like. I'm just here for the walkers. Why didn't even think about that. You're right that's what it is. If he's smart. Yeah oh my gosh. So then. We make it over to club penguin yet again. Not trashing no no making how no drunken fights. It's just all game talk and it's so lame But we basically have like amber and gabby trying their best to be like. What are we going to do to get the heat off of us. Because obviously it's our guts And it does kinda work out because everyone kind of has a common enemy right now. In theresa they do and who's doing the behind the scenes work and nobody's giving her credit. Who naughty naughty doing doing the devil's work and you don't see her getting any credit for it. She's done this all season. Yeah i feel like ham more apparent with what she's doing. Yeah and it works for her game because she's so intelligent and she's back at us. Yeah i'll beat your ass but we have seen naughty do this multiple times for instance when theresa snapped on ambi at the backyard. Pub club. Whatever you'd like to call it noni was right there. What just happened. Don't want her bother you. You know just being very supportive in this scene. They're sitting down and she's tells her it would be better for your game to throw theresa in. Then you need to get somebody a big name to take. Teresa out is gabby really bothering you right now as she really going to hurt your game who who are you gonna run a final with and be at risk because if theresa vinyl she's winning yeah i mean she's she's really doing well with her politicking. This season makes me proud it's going unnoticed. She lying under the radar. Love that for her. And then we see amber be talked to casey Say like hey. If i don't wanna go in like do you want to go in. You need your skull to and of course casey's like yeah like all the theresa i don't care i mean who's who's casey gonna be intimidated of at this point that's like left in the game. I mean low. Maybe cam may be about eighty. I don't think she's intimidated by lolo. Like because i think lows all bark and no bite yeah very true. She is an athlete though. I think you forgot or a second. If you i think they all make your make sure to remind you every five minutes for the rest of the podcast that you don't forget casey played football. Why are we not talking about. I don't know lolo is athlete of the season. Please do not distract from that team athlete. A professional team athlete all right. So let's get to the deliberation and man. This is just like a real awkward. One wasn't it. Everyone's just sitting there looking at each other. Nomo anything the crickets chirping in this room. It was uncomfortable. I could too. Yeah it was. It was quite uncomfortable. And theresa kind of calls out ninety and nones like you wanna fight. Basically she's ready to go. She's gonna shop across like how you theresa and i think theresa was just trying to break the silence. Yeah i don't think she was really attacking non he was like. Oh this is just another vet who doesn't have a gold school yet. What make live. The situation and naughty woke up and chose violence. No thank you do not say my name ever ever theresa finally is just like okay like am i the target. Because it's obvious at that. Point and again amber m being straight shooter says yeah. I'm voting for you so you know. And what what does that do to help your game. Amber you do your rogue agent. You can say whatever you want this week but people aren't going to forget because once teresa's gone who is the target she not do not the smarter term thinking long term. We get the reveal that obviously ends up being theresa and brain is going blinked. Who's her partner. Cory truth and corey and You know amber amber be is still just like i wanna get my school. But we'll see if something i wanted. Error i know it's like just get it going get it. Don't go and get it like trying to assess if you think you could do it or not leroy. I finally says what we've been saying. Yes why would you give somebody else the opportunity to get their school when you don't have one it makes no sense makes no sense at all at irritates me. Yeah so we get to the crater. Cray dr loving heart and theresa in corey go down in. Apparently ambi is not sure what she's looking at and so she's just going to play it safe and go ahead and vote for casey to go down. I'm just gonna give casey her gold skull. Because i don't think i can be theresa lame. Lame lame lame. And it's like you think that's the safer thing but is it really because you like you never know when is gonna purge or whatever where you could be sent home. It could be even riskier to not go down. What people don't realize good because you chose not playing this season. He could throw in any twist that he still feels like yes he could in. I love the. He keeps playing with them every episode. And being like you know i really want the guys to get rid or whatever and it was just funny. 'cause okay obviously it's not a guides week and then cams tj stop doing that like thank. You thought messing with our emotions. He's really good at it. Though i know i love it good buffer. So the game is snapping point I watch this is a tug of war but like with your whole body and it looks so hard so hard like i get. The hall is like physically hard on your body but this looks like one of the hardest things that they ever have to do on this show. There's just silly having a hundred percent the whole time and you have to wait when you feel the tension you have to time out your movements very methodically and cast members have come out on past seasons and said when they've done this sometimes you're there filming for hours that's we. Did you notice naughty. Said we could be here all night because in the past they have been because they're just they're hanging out until somebody moves that they're both laying there for thirty minutes resting. Oh we're not resetting. Oh look so hard. But i will say as soon as i knew what it was. I put in my notes by theresa. Yeah i knew. Casey was gonna win. Casey was this is. This is an elimination challenge. That is made for. Casey one hundred percent especially because i think a lot of it had to do with just her explosiveness right out of the gate of like running. Those football sprints where she like him busted out and run super super fast super super strong right away which just immediately gave her the leg-up and she was immediately able to go for like the furthest ring and then kind of work her way towards the easiest whereas theresa lake was struggling even and didn't ever end up getting one. Yeah because think if she was going to she would have to pull casey. So yeah you are running through this thick sand man having to pull casey's wait toward you. Hell no great athlete. You are that is intense looked so hard and theresa looked like she was like crying like her face was so intense. She looks like she was like either giving birth or like crying or both It looked it looked so painful. Like oh my gosh look. Yeah i did painful. I would like to see low in. Kc do this one. Yeah i mean. I just wanna see lolo do anything with her talk of being an athlete every five. Oh by the way just as a reminder lows athlete you know like you you think we'll see her go down in the crater at all or do you think she's gonna get purged out. I hope we do. I want to. I want to see her in elimination. See what she i to that part of me thinks. We're not going to see it. They're not going to allow it. Yeah i mean if they're smart they wouldn't let her down in there. Yeah since the easiest way to get rid of her but yet. So this is where we see Theresa talking about making her kids proud and like me. I cried as can't do this. It was really sweet. It was like you know again. I'm like why did y'all do this to me right when she's about to leave. I start to post respect. Her a little bit understand her in all throughout the season. You've made me dislike her so much i didn't hate. I didn't hate trees so this season i really. I was excited her to come back. Because i liked watching her and past seasons. Because she's such bad ass. I think though with the new style of the challenge and the new competitors. It's hard for her to mash because they're playing a different game than what she's used to. Playing apologetic wise and social wise Yeah well goodbye. Theresa bested lie. She's not coming back. she's already come out and said i'm done. No thank you for the best Your casey has her school. She's sticking with her pal leroy as part of the great idea. They're a great partnership And then we just end the episode with a great little anita one liner that stand next to corey because he will get you pregnant and nike next him him because he'll get you sent home lash two threes when anita hannah. Thanks for him. That's so weird but aside isn't it. I wanna find the clip but oh yeah there were some anita and corey hot moments. Oh my god. That's so strange And corey getting mad at her because she was talking too much about. What they were doing was getting jealous. Asshole own yeah young corey and an isa natty tv love to see it Yasser that was the episode. We did get our midseason trailer which was yeah crazy. Probably the craziest part for me was just standing there and then throwing up blake wall standing. I know it was wild. I'm like why didn't you bend over. It was just strange Weird and now jay said. Tj says to everybody when they're up on the stage in the crater. None of you are in a final yet. Which i'm like. I mean if they have their skull when the perch You can't do takes these back sees on the skull that would be so stupid navy. He's gonna cut. Some skulls out alike outnumber not taking five each I guess that's possible so then this means that we're officially halfway through. We're at the halfway mark. I am so excited. I heard coming. Yeah maybe two more episodes sounds about right fills right in my soul. Hey que looking forward to it. 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MTV The Challenge: Total Madness Season 35 Ep. 13

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MTV The Challenge: Total Madness Season 35 Ep. 13

"Hey it's Allie, and I'm Leah. and. We're sisters who love watching the challenge together, and this is the girlfriends guide to the challenge. Welcome to spill it sister. Hey everyone welcome back to spill sister podcast? You're here with Alli. and. Leah welcome back. It was a great episode and we are so excited to discuss everything. Lucky number thirteen was episode of victim of love and. Day You. All I have to say about this whole episode. It was just like I was hooked to the core. So many times I was trying to take screen shots that we watch the show on not letting US screen shots anymore. Stabbing screen shots left and right just like out of havoc because I was like Oh my God. Look at that look like it's just it's so great. They were background things happening to I. Don't even have been discussed. ooh I'm when I'm excited to see. If like we picked up on the same thing, we would really pissed that we can't take screen shots anymore. Net Net likes this shit, too. They like blacked it out, too. Where you couldn't. You thought you were taking them, and then you go and look and the black arena uh now. Our cable provider has done this I. get a write a letter because I'm really pissed now I'm not happy about this because. Because I don't like taking on like tilt. Hold my phone up to the TV. Like just shit equality. It doesn't it's just we are higher quality than that here at spills, a sir, though I just am not a fan but yeah, it was a great episode. This is what I was talking about. This is what I've been yelling on the podcast about like when they cut out, the they like left us with these empty episodes with no good drama and nothing going on I'm like you can't tell me. There's no other good shit going on in the house like. A good episode like you can't tell me that. Every single thing was centered around D. and now you're going to give us shitty episodes. This was a good episode with other drama. Nothing to do with D., perfect perfection. Loved it? Also side up with four. The episode starts uh-huh. How shitty would you feel as a person? If there is a whole screen dedicated to you, not being on the episode because of his Shit you chose to do. Well I. Keep Thinking about that in. I don't know if we discussed it on the PODCAST, but. There was something that came out where West basically said that he helped. Get D into like a psychiatric facility of some sort like she was getting not that she like lost her mind but that. Because of like asking going on like it's just obviously a lot for one person not that she's not deserved. It's one hundred percent deserved. But that she needed psychiatric help at that point, and so I'm like. Yeah. That's where she needs to be right now I mean we had talked about how he said he was reaching out to therapists and stuff, but like I don't i. don't think I knew that she went somewhere. I feel like that's what I read somewhere. Please don't quote me on. That could be totally wrong I for me. I just am at peace knowing that she is like under the care of professional psychiatric individuals because that yacht. That's a lot to have to deal with. And especially, then if you're coping an unhealthy ways like drugs or drinking, it's just GonNa. Escalate it so hopefully she is getting. A lot of therapy in. Talking through all of her wrong decisions exactly but yeah, so we are fresh off. A purgatory swaggie just went home. And Bailey right off. The Bat is like this shit is going to suck. She's like I just feel like without my heart or my brain. I'm like what does that leave you with? A lot of emotion. Yes, she not sure how to control. Yeah obviously not. With the Melissa, and she's talking to Josh about how you know. Basically, it's down to her. Noni and Bailey and so. She's kind of playing through the scenario of like. If Bailey is the one who gets in the tribunal, and you know is able to put herself in. It's going to be between me and Noni, and so I me out front like in front of Noni, and and Gaden everyone like you better. Put me in like I. Need to be the ones who get my red skull, and then Noni jumps in, and she's like if you don't put me in that I'm GonNa. Be pissed. I'm not like this whole place on fire like weird. This passion come from that suddenly you WANNA get your red skull so bad. You know you've had a whole damn season. I was thinking that Timberlake's so we're trying to scare tactic here. Yeah, why would you be mad at everybody else because you've not really campaigned to go in, so you want people to throw you in ahead of time I I. Don't know why that you're doing the math that like. This is probably your last chance to get a red skull your life now it's on. On you? It's your fault if I don't get my red skull like no bitch like you should have put yourself in a long time ago. Did you notice bananas like rubbing on her shoulders when she was sitting there of our so awkward like with his fingertips only, and it was just like dragging his fingertips across her shoulders. I was like yeah, this creepy in. In a way and they've had past relationships before like Dave hooked up. They'd had think they've gone on many episode. They've gone on many seasons and they've gotten into fights. When bidding on us was with his ex girlfriend, he couldn't be filmed with Nani like because there was something there you know somebody. How does Morgan filled about this? He's such a frigging player I. I swear lake. He's so full of Shit, and he does so much shit in that house and he bet I bet you it then writing somewhere that they cannot air it. I bet you anything. Yeah. I would agree because there was not him jenny last season and like us just see Heaven Jenny around each other so much. The season that I'm like. Oh okay. That's what I noticed in the background. Very close attention. When Bailey was talking to Jenny and bananas, and Nelson and whoever else about like Dang, it sucks it. swaggie gone. Bananas was kind of like comforting her in a way. Saying like this was his only shot like you had to do what you had to do blah, blah, blah, so jenny has her legs all up on bananas. He has his hand on her upper thigh. Yeah, okay like it's one thing and I'll get into the whole big brother aspect of. Because when people go on reality, TV shows together. It's notorious for like everyone ends up cuddling, and you know just being extra touchy feely with each other. It just happens on these shows as much as it makes me personally uncomfortable. I would be doing that, but like that's what ends up happening right? He had his hand on her upper thigh. Okay, yeah, it's a whole different thing, and then you see. It was very fast, but you see Jenny put her hand on his hand. And then she quickly snatches it away and I think she realized the camera was there Oh. I need to go back and see that. Yes, go look at that scene and just like keep your eyes locked on them, and you'll see like. He has his hand on the thigh. She puts her hand on his hand and then. Takes it away really quick? How I'm telling you all, there's some there's some stuff going on. Everyone wants to talk about how Casey's cheating on Taylor or whatever we need to be talking about bananas and Morgan. Big T went on a challenge media and was talking about how everybody in her room was having sex. Oh Yeah I. Don't doubt it and you know who your real. Anna Yeah. Yeah. It pisses me off that they don't. They. Don't address that Shit like it's not fair that you're GONNA put Casey's relationship on blast and Knob Bananas. It's bullshit. Bullshit. Yeah so that was my thing that I kind of notice going on in the background. We then get to the talk of the town this episode, which is the relationship between Nanyang Casey, we've gotten little tidbits throughout the season of them flirting and up into this point, it was very much like Oh. NONI has a crush, and like Casey is just kind of letting her play along, but not really feeding into it too much. Will we see this whole montage yellow? You have to let it linger. Long like. Just, it was so like flirty. They're cuddled up under a blanket together there. I mean so at one point you see Casey Kiss Noni on the cheek. That was caught on film. And then there's a little bit of discussion about Noni. Being like you definitely didn't kiss me and she's like maybe and then it's like maybe a little bit will maybe a lot, says Casey. Yeah in the producer's like so Noni. Tell us about your perfect soulmate. Nodding goes intake, kind and caring, and all of these traits that she would want in a soulmate and she's like. Basically Casey has all of those nodding girl. Your ass has been on reality TV for many years. How did you fall for that shit? How did you do it? Please come. Were you drunk? I don't know Kabul. Oh did she really fell for that? Yeah And I just loved that during all of this, we get Corey saying like game recognize game like. Facie like I know a player when I see a player, okay, crack open your white cloth alley, actually deer. Really rough week for me, so nobody's going to judge you on new in. Go for it. Yeah, so then. We have sweet and ISA like trying to reason with her girl Casey she. You just need to remember were on it for like God Kenenisa beyond every season of every reality TV show ever just like we need that voice of reason but case he's acting like it's no big deal i. don't even know what you're talking about. There's nothing going on here. Like what could they possibly even show like? Oh, ninety cuddled up. We weren't play. Fighting. Each Other didn't kiss her early. No everybody's just blowing the so out of proportion Casey like now. How do you feel watching this? She is so I just. Okay, so you know there's that term fuck boy like yeah, that's the VIBE. She's giving me. I'm sorry like and I loved Casey like my my love for Casey has not gone anywhere like still thinks she's a sweetheart, but like you can just see. She's enjoying this. And she's getting from this pretty girl who's like a Reality Star, and like I'm sure she's been getting that. Attention left and right ads. She came off a big brother. Like, I think she's kind of just liking liking this right now and enjoying herself, and so it's like you need to decide like you can't have your cake and eat it to. You can't be with Taylor and be all loyal to her and enjoy all this attention from all these other people, but I mean so far. She hasn't been able to do that. Yeah, we'll because her. In Taylor are still together I don't know if we want to get into like. Her comments on everything. Comments. In the show. Yeah, we can get into that because I knew she did alive. I didn't get to watch it, but. She's denying it all. Yeah I! I started watching. It was freaking like what an hour and a half or something I'm like. I don't have time for this But I I watched some of it. And basically you could tell Taylor was like right off screen because she kept like referring to her, and like pointing and looking in a certain direction, and being like I, and she kept saying like I own up to everything I did my actions like were not okay and but. She still is claiming that she didn't kiss her that she didn't cheat, but that she was overly flirting like she's still hanging onto that and it's just not ivy, so what they like added the kiss in. How does that work I? Just WanNa say. The producers told US everything when they put over the second like my second song of the episode one unbelievable. Yeah, when they were showing what Casey was saying about how adding kiss her Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. You'll unbelievable. I was like yeah they. They told us right there. They're like there's some shit. All the they are aren't GonNa see, but it just know it happened. She's unbelievable, because like we don't believe you like. Your ass is lying yet, and it's like is talking I. Don't remember who she was talking to you, but she was like talking to other people, and she was saying her and Casey flirted on big brother. Oh. She was talking Katie Right. It was like yes. It was talking to Casey and an ISA maybe. She's like your. blurting human being and she was. AM. I mean you and I flirted on big brother and I'm like what? Okay, so here's the thing about big brother. Everyone flirts with everybody in. It is known that. You're at an advantage on that show. If you come in single because alerting is like a currency like you do that to get in good with certain alliances to make connections in the house like. It's literally a game move to flirt on that show. This ally, this is why I'm not on reality TV because. I'M NOT FLIRT WITH NOBODY I'm not cuddled up with nobody. Don't touch, no will the people that go on that are married like really don't do well. because. It's like they're being boil. And they miss their earlier spouse, or whatever and they're not about like trying to flirt with all these people and don't do well so. Yeah, so! I. I had to keep an open mind on this. Because we've talked about Bailey and Casey's relationship on big brother, before I watched that even and they were in two totally different alliances, like literally on opposite side of the house from the other, like I never saw a friendship or anything between them so for Bailey to be saying that they had they were flirting together was brand new news to me I was like okay, so obviously, there's something that didn't see because back then I was not watching like the live feeds as much and so I didn't really see. How Big Brother has live feed, they can you go back and watch them or now? Know How so? I had to rely on going to youtube going to twitter, and I tried y'all like I dug and Doug, and Doug and Doug to see like. Where is this flirtation but and Hashtag at one point, it was Hashtag What was it Basie Yuppie A. Y. C. E. Today like people were kinda shipping them because what it looks like what it appears happened was during the first week when everyone's kind of meeting and getting to know each other remember. Swaggie went home like week two on that season so swaggie still there like it was all very new. Yes? They had some moments where they kind of like where laying together never like a blanket never at the intimate level that we saw between Noni and okay. In Casey, and keep in mind that was only for I would say a week tops, because as we saw her, and Swaggie obviously got paired up really really quickly, and she even says it. She's like Swaggie told me like no like stop fooling around with her like come and hang out with me so for Bailey. This whole episode like is Hernani on. Of just not true okay. I have to say that I was feeling really slighted as your co host when I was like with the Fuck Leeann. Not Tell me because it happened didn't happen the way fest. In episode was perfect. Yeah, she misinterpreted. Bay, Casey's flirting Bailey misinterpreted it and kind of took something for what like something that it wasn't you know like right and we've all been there like I've been the Bailey in a situation where you think a guy like isn't to you, and because he like. Shows you some attention or whatever turns out there? Just flirty person or yeah? That's not the case, and then you Kinda feel like shit about yourself like damn it like. I was kind of into that. You know or I i. liked that attention and then. It's like. Oh, it's not really what you think. It is not a good feeling. No, but here and like we'll get into more a little bit later, but It appears that Bailey is very jealous that now that swaggie US on. She's not filling that void for Casey. I feel like Bailey needs a lot of external validation. Okay, and like she was getting that from Swaggie obviously like with him in the house. It's like Oh baby like I love you. You're so great da Da. Now. She doesn't have that. She's expecting Casey to like fill that yes. Or her and she's not going to like. She's paired up with Nani. Now like and whenever swaggie and West were there. You decided that those were the only two people you going to invest your time into now that they're both gone. You're left alone. And I, just I don't know why. I've never mentioned this before, but the fact that he's always like that's my wife or she's like that's my husband. Can we just clarify like earn that? I'm sorry they're not married, right? No, they're not married. They're engaged. Okay official like officially engaged yeah okay okay. I'm Jay Farner engaged on the fidelis brother. Oh, that's right. You told me I of course. Of course, yes. So I will, we'll move on with episode and I'm sure I'll have more things to say but I just. That's why I was freaking out over this episode, just having watched that season of big brother. You're just yelling at your screen. You're like what no not happen I know. It was like damn. League really like did me dirty, because she just hoping any of this Shit Oh my God. I would have told you that that's so important. So the KC kind of calls a House meeting, and she's like telling everyone like y'all need to calm down on all the stuff about me and Noni. Being whatever you think we are, and just like we. We just vibe out. She keeps saying that this. Bananas was like. Can you explain not please like what does that mean by out and I was you win him I'm like. Here's what she have said she said you know. How like you in Jenny like hang out lot. By Being Out Bananas Yeah. They can call me out. They have cut that shit out. They would have been like no, but okay. It's just a great where. In. My mind, maybe however dirty, it may be instantly went to vibrators. Interested. Like. Louis she by out. Think that, but then went bananas. What do you mean by that? Then I was like oh I mean just think about if you're housing came up to you and he's like I met this girl at work today like she was so cool. We were invited now. I, be like his ass. I wish you would like. Where is she wants her address? Sorry like. Why don't you vibe your way? The fuck out of here, okay? No way so and then we get the Freudian slip where she's like, she kissed kicked. A. Lot Of bleeps there you know okay, okay, she said I looked at the captions and it said like kicked my bed. I don't know what that means kicked me out of my bed, maybe is. Trying to say. Because of the way, Bailey goes into detail about how her and Casey shared a bed I think that like Noni. Casey have been sleeping in the same bed and I told you last week I was. They've already at least kissed. Yeah, you! Did you told me that? Did we record? That I don't know, did we did it was on our episode? Whom K. Their seats that you call it? Hey, everyone, it's Leah let's take a quick break, so I can talk to you about today. Sponsor hero cosmetics. They just send us over. Something called the mighty patch, which is a hydrocare Loyd acne patch. I actually had a monster pimple pop up last night, so I stuck on a mighty patrick original overnight, and in the morning the pimple was totally flat, very cool. I'm telling you guys. These things work way better than any other over the counter creams and serums I've tried, and it actually protects the blemish from getting more dirt or bacteria to the poor while healing it at the same time. I know a lot of times when I've put some kind of serum on. It just rubs off. Off or I feel like more stuff ends up getting stuck to it. This does not happen with these patches. It's so cool to see that when you wake up in the morning and you take the patch off, you can actually see all the gunk just came out of your pores. 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Help them fit into other cars like the fucker talking about I Rogan okay. Why is this happening? Why on? The team the season everybody's just shut up. So broke this puzzle work. I was so astonished my mouth dropped. What did I miss? What a war did he get? Who every every time he sucks. Like a one in this season, are they not realizing rogan bucking sucks puzzles. They were getting so pissed at Jenny Jenny just stopped talking like Oh y'all. You don't even understand their wrath that I had because unless you've been a woman. Who has been in some kind of? At work, let's say for example and you're telling people what the answer is. They don't WanNa. Hear it you specific your dallying a group of men. You're telling a group of men. I have specifically my first outside of college. You know what I'm talking about us. It was mostly men like I was literally the only woman. and. I would be telling them like here's what we need to do. Yeah, crazy idea, right? Shut up, shut up. We don't. We don't need to hear from you. We're discussing this. We're trying to figure this out. And then someone comes up with a brilliant. That solves the problem. It is like a rage that you cannot describe in I was so fucking pissed and then to know that bananas and Jenny are probably fucking at the same time, and he was the one shushing her like I just I. Couldn't handle it. This whole situation was so frustrating. They did the same thing to Anita. Yes. And like Asher. Other women are dying laughing right now. Guys are probably like rolling their eyes talking about but Plenty of times, this happened to me and I told Y'all before, maybe not on this podcast, but like on our other podcasts love after lockup in ninety, day fiance I've said we've expressed it like I'm very petite and Leeann Taller. No I'm like five to on a good day. Whatever like my therapist will say to me like. Why do you feel like you're so angry and like my husband? Will you just get so escalated on me because you don't understand like as a petite woman, I feel like I. have to rage the fuck out on people are. They're not hitting me seriously. Oh, yeah, like I mean we have to. You do one hundred percent you have to. You have to be angry. Otherwise. No one listened to you and Sweet Jenny in Sweden Nissar like. I. Maybe if we moved to these cars over here, shut up. Jenny like Rogan Rogan. The master is a work, and you don't even know what he creates the book and Michael. Angelo what is happening in this episode, and then he hurts. He has the audacity to start saying. Let Me Work Luggy. Guide if this is like. Ban, splitting at its best, it drove me crazy, especially because Rogan just shut up this just shopping. Let everybody look at your apps. That's. WanNa! See and your tiny little Pecker Oh my God. Yeah, like. Are you trying to compensate here? I think so, and then bucking comes along I've solved it. I go out and suddenly ever is open to hearing other people's ideas besides Rogan. It's crazy I have that in my notes like I was so his like guy lit up there so much going on in the world right now, and it's like this was captured. It's like. Do you really not see? How the what's happening, do you not see like how you'll talk down to women and like that? We don't know we can multitask. We can do this and make a baby like I can feed my child from my body and do other things and. How to get a car out of the parking lot. No like we solve twenty thousand puzzles every day naturally, because like that's where we have to do to pick up the mess that y'all. Probably like you like it was just so fucking frustrating, if I was teaching like a women's studies class I would like. Take that clip and like have a whole asked lesson about this is the example here? Like, Oh, it's just so. We really do our husbands and we're not like raising. Let me make that clear like I. Love Him so much and like he does more for me than lake, yeah anyone. He is great, but it was just. It was so frustrating because I've had other situations like. Mainly in work situations especially when it's like a group of dude. Yeah, they're all feeding off of each other's testosterone in think like that. They hung the fucking moon. It's just it's quite frustrating. High Digress we get to team to, and it's a much better team work environment. They're working together. Bailey steps up and she's like telling. She happens to be a woman. Just yeah, it's crazy. How this works that? She knew how to like multitask. figure out a puzzle and talk I yes. Yes so Bailey and they listen to her and she's like telling everyone. Move this move that move that it's great. We're not having all these big arguing like stressful like power struggle it. It was beautiful and I thought. Team too much just killed it like they must have right week their assets, but no somehow team one is the winner, and it was only by thirteen seconds and I just call fraud. I don't believe it. It's like. Do they speed up team two's? They cut it because yeah, it must not have been very interesting because everyone was just like working together and being cordial, they had to have really stared their puzzle for a long time, or like walked in there, and just looked at it and not done anything, so they cut all of that out. I guess so I. Don't know we miss something because it was, it seemed way faster. Yeah, I'm like Oh. There's no way team won one. Way. I didn't believe it, but now we have Jenny Bananas. Anita Rogan Corey and Josh all on the tribunal. Anani's already like all right cool like I'm going in I. Don't like this seven people the tribunal. That's a little much. That's accessible is. Yeah. They should have done like three different teams. Or just said. It before where it's like okay. If you're a team of seven, then you have to pick three. Pick your three. Yes, that would have been good one team captain, and then to other so they should've picked a team captain ahead of time. It would have been Rogan for team won because he's so smart. He's so smart like wow, it's just. He's got beauty and brains apparently so. And he could have taken to other people with him. I hit like the seven format. Yeah I didn't either. It was a bit much but it worked for the drama. Because what ends up happening is now. The losers are Kyle Nelson. Melissa Bailey Fussy Casey MD and it's GonNa. Come down to Casey as the deciding vote of whether or not, it's going to be Bailey or Melissa going in against Noni because everyone else has pretty much made their alliances clear. Hey, everyone. I want to take a quick break to talk to you about this episode. SPONSOR LASH AFFI-. 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It is Shitty I. mean she got the short end of the this episode like you can't deny? I'm not saying that her reaction was the best way of handling at the and it was the best for this show, and I enjoyed watching it, so that was the best. Lesson retainment value for sure Yeah, so we right after the challenge is done, we have Casey and Nani discussing. He's like okay. Obviously I'm going in. Cases like all right. So who do you want to go up against Melissa? Knows me your choices in new picks, Melissa. Moore why do not know I do not know? Why would you I don't care if you're match size-wise? No, no, do you not know what Melissa can do? I, just and Nani does know like. Hasn't she been on seasons with her before? Yes she has the. I don't know if. Noni was still there with Melissa Sylvia eliminate. That's the one that POPs up in my head 'cause. I mean that's very similar to what they ended up having to do and and Elvia is. Built differently Melissa Melissa Tour Heart. Yeah and she's small like I, think. Like her stature is smart, but when I see her. She looks bigger like she looks bigger than she is. I guess I don't know how to explain like she looks more. Like must. It's like early Johannesen yeah. I met her in person and she was so small, and when you think about Scarlett Johansson as like the black widow house movies like she spoke strong in like tough, and you think of her as this big person, and she's actually very small I. Think it's kind of similar to that. Yeah, besides the fact that you know Melissa has trained in MMA. Yeah let's just not forget that I mean in Nani. Nani addresses that point in this episode like yeah I know she trained in MMA, or maybe it was kyle. Okay yeah, so I just I was very confused by that and it's like. Wouldn't you want to make things easier on this person that you? Claim as like your soulmate suddenly. Wouldn't you WANNA? Like make her life easier by saying like? Let me go to Baileigh, if it's all. If it's pretty similar, just let it be Bailey I. Don't know I'm thinking maybe. It was more than that Vernon. It was more about just wanting to screw over Bailey honestly though. Yeah I do while she did it. She because Melissa. non-air more friends than her. In Bailey are so I think she was more like. Let's give Melissa the chance like Melissa's my friend I. Don't want to have to deal with the backlash of her, not going in and I. Do you know this before and I'll say it again? I really do think that they're trying to block out Bailey from getting a red school. Yeah Oh yeah, they have been to both of them this whole time. I'm surprised Swaggie was able to do. It lasts upset only because the Bailey. Because she was empower mainly has nobody to blame it herself because how many times the sheep been a tribunal. Exactly like she she could have, she could have done it time ago. Named thing with Melissa and ninety two. So, then Casey goes up to Bailey and she tries to like have a conversation with her about it like she knows what's coming. She knows she's going to have to. Basically Throw Bailey under the bus, and Bailey is not have not WanNa have this conversation. She just literally stays laying in bed and won't even look at her. She was swaddled and hearst's Ueli like it like a baby. I believe this is when she had her bonnet on and she made. This when I haven't even taken my on off yet. It must have been the morning or something like she's like. I'm not even like awake yet. I don't know I don't know 'cause. They go right back to the House vote, don't they? Yeah I. Don't know. Maybe it was like she was taking a nap or some young like before the vote, it probably showered or something. Yeah I mean Bailey just like. She let herself. You know. Get really upset over everything that was happening to her and I'm. I'm not saying like everyone has a right to react. However, they wanNA react but like. Because of that I mean she probably diminished her chances even more. I just feel that if She had taken the blow up that she has with Casey later on in the episode. And replace sat. With the. The voting seen on the couch. Ray would have gotten the House vote. Everybody will look. We got see this shit. GO DOWN! Yeah like and that's exactly what Melissa. She's like girl like. How'd you done this before? Like? You probably would have gotten the vote I mean everybody would have wanted to watch Donnie and Bailey them like battle, outnumber or Casey's bedspace. Caught. It's so true. I mean the one hundred percent true, but instead when they get to the nomination. Bailey's basically asleep like she just has her. Eyes closed sitting on the couch. She has swollen eyes. You can tell she's been crying her boy already like raspy. You can just tell she's been crying for a hot minute. You can tell like she didn't even WanNa. Be near the producers probably like. Her go sit her ass on that. Ouch like. She was still upset and. Obviously goes around votes or three to three and its downsizing Casey. Casey's the one who ends up saying like I love you. Bailey and I know and Bailey cuts are options like fucking. She says even like letter. Finish that sentence. votes firm Lissa Melissa's going in. Yet and I like Melissa gets this very like Dole I. I'd Nanny appaled. Boy Whenever, she goes to ask for something she wants when she went to ask for the how Ya like she lays it on Dick. Really she does. Oh, a hundred percent she's like. Thank you guys so much and Casey ever you do. I will always respect to you and see you as. Bichir only saying that because you know you have the vo like you and not be saying that if you were in Bailey situation right now. Exactly so the boat goes to Melissa and then I have in my nose Oh. My God. is she having panic attack and literally she with having a panic attack. Yes. She's like hyperventilating like Bailey is just freaking out like she saying like she needs to get out of there like she needs to go, and I thought okay, we'll. Maybe she'll just send herself. Home in Lake will be done with the drama, but then I was like no. We saw a preview of like some other shit going back, so she can't leave yet. But. She kind of ends up back in her bed again, just like crying in her bed and Sweet Nelson moment of the season number two. Does he go heart? He might have a heart I just I. Don't I don't know sometimes. They really think like that time is A. Because, he must have been listening to our podcast and changed his ways. Yeah okay. But he did he like went in, and he's like I. Know It must be really hard for you like not being here with Swaggie and like you know your friend just voted you in. Just know that like I'm here for you if you need someone to talk to you like. No thin I just loved it was there and like you know it's. This is a gay, but we are people at heart so like We understand how hard this can be. Bananas says it at one point. I don't know if he said it to Bailey, but he said it's at the camera. He's like I got. The Shit sucks like it really is a mind fucker into. do it without like people that care about you around you. That would be really hard basically to do it without like having sex, all the time would be released stressful, but luckily. I don't have to worry about that, so you know. I've out with Jesse Philly. That's the new lingo. Guys vibe belt. percent you know what that means. Yep So. Then we get a night out and Melissa's just making her kilo tubs mafia saying like. Thank you so much to everyone who voted me in, and you just see like Bailey. Looking Salty is hell in the coroner I can't Sadler. Blame her I. Don't blame. Her can't say I want yeah. Yeah, and then we have Casey and Nana, just like doing some really uncomfortable like a- I. Don't even know what this was Casey was like. People are like intimidated of you, but also they underestimate you like it was just not is like. Yeah, you're totally right like yeah I'm going to stop doubting myself. And they just kept talking, Casey talking naughty up and I was like well, not he's GonNa. Go home. Oh I under I. It was so just awkward and. Obviously we see compete down there like why love what? Turned on, like the way she's saying is that's what it sounded like. Yeah. In, then bananas, MP Bananas and Jenny Talk To. Do. Oh my God, bananas and Jenny Talked Valey. They are what did I. That's you said. That's my point is like they're always together. Bananas and Jenny are always together. Yeah, exactly. They're drinking at the bar together like you guys have to pay attention to this shit. So. They're talking the like hot couple of the season. Bananas and Jenny are talking to Bailey about what had happened and they're like. Why did you not say anything? And this is where Bailey starts this whole theme of either? I'm crying screaming. Yeah! There's nothing in the middle I'm either crying or screaming. I'm like so you're saying that you're not able to like. Handle your issues by just talking. To someone else so that's what you're admitting to like I'm not putting that. I'm not saying that about her. She thing that about herself. That's just not a good thing like you are like. You're an adult you have to learn. How to deal with Shitty, ass, situations. and not cryer scream i. mean because honestly just usually doesn't get you where he wants to be. No, it does it and that would be advice, but unfortunately she's on reality TV where it gets you good ratings. Yeah exactly where you're encouraged to lie with your shit on people. For her, but she starts like talking and like spill of neither like we didn't necessarily know. and she started saying that when she gets back like she's telling all this t to Taylor which she came out and said in a tweet that she never did. she's like I never like I, never actually ended up going to Taylor and saying anything which is good. That was big of her, but also like. Now Taylor is going to watch it. On Yeah. Anything. That one al.. I mean she's going to know the truth, anyways. very interesting and then. We get to the tribunal. De Casey and Bailey are the nominations literally is nothing just show her like smiling and then move on chattings. In personal reasons new C. D. for by seconds okay, yeah cool. Onto the night. Casey is next and it's like Okay Casey. What happened you know from your perspective? And she's like okay so me and Bailey talk before the season and said that we were going to try to go as far as we could together, but at the end of the day I don't trust her like. which I understand like they were not even on the same alliance at all during big brother like I. Don't know why people think that just because you were on big brother together. That's like saying that like. I Dunno car Maria, and in Jordan just 'cause. They were on the challenge together like they would immediately be alive on another show. No, they hate each other like. They hate each other. If they're not in the same alliance like adage, don't get that so anyway. She's like I can't really trust Bailey and that Bailey kind of turned a little bit of flirtation into something much bigger and bigger than it was, and basically everything coming out of her mouth right now is going to be like bs in lies like she already knows. Allies are coming. Yeah, she's like she. She can't talk with being bullshit and she secluded herself with Swaggie, which is not false. We saw that. Again West yet. And then we have Bailey. Oh, Gosh, not like. How are you feeling today Bailey like? Have you ever seen that talk? And don't know what the like voices from Italy. How are you today? Jasmine and it's like why why would you do this to me? Like? Why would you ask me this off to send it to you? But that's what. I, that's what it reminds me. How are you today? Bailey like pitch? You know she ain't good. You know it right exactly. Yeah, that was that was shady of her. And Bailey says the reason that she didn't speak in the loser. Nominations was because she was so hurt. And then this is again where she starts playing up the whole like I was I was Casey's Noni never. We were on big brother and everyone's like Oh shit. That's fucking crazy. WHOA I allowed. And then you have that's betsy. Come in. He's like no, no, no, no, that's not the case like. Yeah, that's how it happened at nine. Wait a minute like Dole. Blame this on me. But it is because if you I thought it was very unfair for Bailey to take a dig at Noni. Did you think that, too? I, did too I mean I I, think Noni. Had, something to do with it. She needs to not act like she had nothing to do with any of this. Because ultimately she is the one who told Casey. She wanted to go up against Melissa. So you had a part in it. I'm not saying it's non-east faults like she didn't force, Casey did she did, but not he knew exactly what she was doing. When she told Casey that she wanted to go against Melissa I saw like I. do think she was being unfair. Yes, like I agree with that but I. also think that Noni was being a little bit overly defensive. I just think that if Casey and Bailey had that great a friendship. It wouldn't have been so easy for case. BE LIKE GAP Elissa. Yeah, and that's the thing like for all of Casey's like like I said fuck boy ways. This episode like there's just no other way to put it like. She was very honest about the fact. That like I am closer to Noni than I am to bailout like. I see Noni as a better friend than I do to Bailey like she never denied that she never said like. Oh, I used to be as like closer with Bailey and like to be just as close as I. Am with ninety Alex. She's like no I see Noni. As more of a friend I just don't understand why. Bailey like I guess. My point here is Bailey had an as existing I guess the way she saying it friendship with Casey. So to me, no matter what naughty does, you'd eat a whole Casey more accountable because that was supposed to be your friend prior to this like you just met Auni. Because ultimately she is jealous of non likely. She wants to be Noni, she wants to be Casey's little flirty flirty girl that she's hanging out. I don't know like be pissed at Casey. Don't come after Noni for that bullshit. it's the classic thing of win. Your Guy Cheats on you and yet at the the girl that he cheated on you it instead of the guy who cheated like. It's the exact same thing. So Post Tribunal. We have Jenny going up to Bailey like her a hug. Talking about how like this must be so hard for her? which again like I just think is so sweet like I. She, you can tell Jenny like is a caretaker like she's just going to go and make sure everyone so yeah, you can tell. She's very genuine with her actions. Yet. We see Casey and. Like, yes, she said that like Y'all are all up in bed together that like y'all had a thing that case he's like. Oh, hell. How like what? Where did this come from? She straight up goes up to Bailey and she's like. Why are you been lying? Why are you lying like why? Why do you have to do that and Bailey? Just pops off loses her damn mind. She goes for like zero to ten. Have you seen the clip of her doing this to tyler on big brother. No, but I did see me where people are talking about. Tyler which I don't watch big brother. Guys I'm going to I'm going to have to now after all this half you. Yeah, because now big brother is casting for. The challenge apparent airlink. And they're going to all stars. This next, so I'm pretty sure is going to be on it. and I I. Don't remember anyone leggings from the challenge. He said he's not doing it like no matter what y'all. I'm not doing it. Okay But Yeah I think you should watch it. It's it's a good show, so yes, she'd did a very similar like I. Guess just when she gets to a certain point. She screams like like she. Gets like guttural in her screaming like. Like it's like very. Raspy again. There were some things that she said when I that I was like Oh. You know she's pissed because like I, said Shit like that one I've been pissed of. I like what I don't even know what she was. Going on and on and on and she was. She was like I'm screaming. Don't don't bucket disrespects me like how `bout now like I, just started whereas like on been there like I feel that deep down in my soul, I know you're pissed. Squirrel like take your head. Yeah so she finally just like walks out. Ended up walking past Noni and she's already done by point. She's like all like all off. She calls Nadia Lion. Ass Ho which. I. I. Don't get why She's what ninety lied about. Because? NONI didn't own up to the fact that she had something to do with the reason why Bailey wasn't going in. That's what it was. Me and so that's why she was lying. That's what I think she. Her reasoning is nothing I. Agree with it, but. Thought so. Bailey's late while she's lying, she's a lion ass, and then she's Ho Ho wish things. Just hate this because like. Somebody always takes this mark of like wanting to be the person to call Donohoe all every season that she's on. And I just hate it. She's trying to live her life. I will say the way she's messing around with. Casey is not cool I know that she has girlfriend at home and you're like trying real hard to get with her like that's cool. It's not bill like if a guy did it with. With a show this the same shit with like he's a Ho. No bear. Yes, nobody calls. Everybody thinks spares hilarious for doing it. Right yeah, it's cute and funny and like. Typical bear. Yeah, I, totally agree. Yup and so. noni comes in after her. We already have security like the currency is on the scene and. I mean Casey. She ends up screaming at her. She's like we were just. Like, she's pissed at this point flavor. It was just crazy and. She's like you told me on big brother. You want me to sleep in your bed with you. which that's the other thing in Casey? I'm glad Casey says on her. Live that nobody even watch because it was so long, but she did. Address I saw a clip where she addressed that on big brother. Everyone is two to a bed like everyone's sleeping with someone. Yeah like. Now I. Don't know if you're married. Maybe you find a way around that somehow like you'll see sometimes just one person in a bed here and there, but for the most part. People like okay. Brands will sleep in bed with each other like it's a very normal thing, not like it's not. Everyone gets their spouse other like if I go on a show like that, okay, I'm picking somebody. Say like okay cool like you have a girlfriend back home like I I'm married. I have a boyfriend back home, so we can sleep in the same bed in. It's not gonNA be weird especially if Like you're comfortable with that person, your friends, you've no safe. That makes a lot of sense, yes, so. It's very much like Bailey Apparently took. Casey's. Employer tation with her way too seriously and thought it was more than it was yikes. Yeah, it is nice. It sucks I mean. So. It's like I don't think that like like even posted on our instagram I kinda wanted to see like. Where do people fall on this? Like? Do they think? Are they on Bailey side on the? Are They on Casey side? 'cause I'm. I see both sides being like that like I. Want to be able to be like I'm on this side, but I think I see God is, but because I see both sides like. I'm more on Casey side. If I had to pick aside I picked Casey side. Yeah I mean naturally. Yeah, so we had more I think it was like let's see so. It was like seventy one percent for Casey twenty nine for Bailey so just because. Bailey was all about swaggie until he left. Give a shit. She didn't bring any past with Casey until swaggie was gone. Until! It was convenient to play up this wall relationship that they supposedly had on big. and. It's like girl like you know that Shit's recorded like I guess. Maybe it could work for your game in the house, but you didn't. Even if you're going to play those cards, you should have played those longtime area early now. Ya, it's way too late now. Yeah, that was some crazy drama guys. So then we have kind of everyone getting ready for purgatory bananas giving. Noni Shit he's like. How's your last magical evening with case? I'm like Oh my God like Staw. Sell everybody else out except himself because he knows he's protected him. Morgan knows what the fungus she knows. What's going on? I think she has to. Oh, yeah, she has. She's not blind. She's not stupid I'm sure people are sending her stuff all the time to. I. Don't know I give it was her friend. Or family member I be like taken a bunch of screen shots of being like. Excuse me. What's happening here? o n not to mention that we saw Jenny like rubbing all up on banana, pudding, Hanner, or like Sunscreen, or whatever on him at one point this in episode. I feel personally. This is just my opinion. I have no evidence to back it. I just feel like Morgan. Creates this illusion on social media that she feels like she hits such a Jackpot with bananas. That she would never listen to anything that anybody else said about him. She's one of those people who wants to make her life seems so perfect, and then behind the scenes like it's. So amazing together like I snagged Johnny Bananas, Ling. He just johnny to me like he's not bananas, but it's like come on. Girl like you knew what you're doing and what you're getting into. You got the banana. Let's be real yet. The I could see that I can totally see that up. So then we get to purgatory and of course noni nominates herself, so we have Melissa and Nani up against each other, and I didn't write down the name of this competition law. Did you off with your head? Off with your head, and they have to like pull these skulls off of each other's bodies and go take them and put them on their podium. Other side of this ring in. It's basically like wrestling, but you're trying to like. Pull should off of each. I was hoping so they've done this before in an elimination. I think it was on. Invasions. Maybe it was like whatever the Moore series came in. I don't remember Season that was now, but anyways they had something similar to this, but they were blindfolded. Interesting. That's cool. That's what I thought they were going to do, and then they weren't blindfolded and I was like. Oh well, that's not nearly as that would have been better, yeah! So I. Mean they're pretty much neck and neck in the beginning. I was actually impressed with Nani because I was like her ass is going to get like domino. Honest but Nani did a pretty good job at first, and then eventually Melissa wins by two right. Yeah, five and Melissa got five and Nani only got gary. So. And that's it. Noni went home after all that bullshit audience of going home anyways. Every elimination I'm like okay TJ going to say he's going to say there's no more red skull's. Any here's. We've seen two women going against each other in A. In a already so I know there's one more and like I knew who it is. I feel like it's. Did you tell you I was like? Can I please? Her memory is so bad the text le-let. Can I. Please tell you a spoiler, please. Is, it, Melissa Baillio. Okay spoiler alert if you don't WanNa know who goes up against each other in the hall brawl. Skip ahead by thirty seconds. It's Jenny Verses De. Jenny versus Z. Okay I remember which like now. What are they GONNA? Do not show it. I mean we need to know like how we got to that. Yet need to know. Okay. Boiler Willer over so next week. Excited because a double elimination week. I bet you it's one guy one girl to yeah. Yeah and then it's going to be like that's it and like fine. Go home like Josh going to go home. Because he doesn't. Josh Kyle. Don't have red skull so josh and. Them. It's going to have to be I mean I'm assuming they'll both go in. I, mean you see? Josh is like being so nervous. He so nervous to go into I, know! What do you think is to happen I? Guess it would be kind of scary seeing like what happened to Jordan what happened? Oh. My Gosh may favorite little humane. What's his name j? Yes So I don't know but. We're getting close I. Thought I saw somewhere five episodes. Laugh, thank God Rolling Arjan episode thirteen of eighteen episodes. I guess maybe that includes the. Reunion that like nobody is on. This is going to be stupid, so many people were not allowed on. Mattie Jordan, who accordance not only Tories on of course, the obviously D-. Who else was it? Taking out, there was like a hit. Remember either I people that couldn't come on. That's can I don't know, and it's going to be like over zoom, or whatever, so it's not like awkward I'm just. I'm interested this weekend. Sack is going to be on it. That's a bull I'm not trying to see. On my screen like get that man off of TV. He does not deserve over that bullshit. Oh, my gosh, but yeah great episode! Amazing stuff I mean at. Please keep bringing us the good drama. Does not have to be centered around D to be a good episode. Okay, this was proof, but late now. WHO's Casey can cut with? it's GonNa. Be Hard for her I don't know. Maybe she'll go of debate might. Be like, Hey. Remember me Oh. Gosh! Well, that was. This week. Guys thank you so much for listening. Have a great rest of your week and weekend. We'll talk to you next time.

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