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The Bill Simmons Podcast
"noah fan" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"They trade a 22 fourth for 5th to give up Shelby Harris, who was good in that Monday night game. Noah fan drew lock. And then they gave Russell Wilson the 5 year 161 $1 million guaranteed deal to new ownership. There's a little new owners syndrome in there. But this was the classic, this guy was so great in the mid 2010s. He was off the last couple of years. Well, we can excuse that all these different ways. Monday night, he looked like the same guy he looked like the last couple of years. He's not the same athlete. There's a couple times when I felt like I wasn't running around. He just didn't. He missed some throws. Like the one played a Judy where he underthrew him to the point that it was an easy touchdown and it turned into like a hard one. I just wasn't impressed that I thought it was pretty telling. I know it's been discussed for 5 days, but or four days, but his coach was like, it's fourth and 5. You just gave this guy a 160 1 million guaranteed. And you're trying to 64 yard field goal and you're actually like setting it up to kick a 64. What are the odds that what did you think the odds were that that was going? I would have put out like 15 very little. I think the stat I read was like two out of 42 times has a kicker made a 64 yarder or more in the last ten years. And then fourth and 5 exactly. It's like 45%. So the odds itself, even if you're just looking at it in a vacuum, made no sense. I've spoken to Broncos people and it's like, and this sounds crazy. If it was an 8 yard gain from javonte on third down and it wasn't a 9 yard gain and if it was to the 47 and not the 46, they would have gone for it, but Brandon McManus told them on the sideline I'm not blaming mcvan as he's like get it to the 46th on the left hash, I can hit that. I will hit that 46. Of course he's gonna say that. He wants The Rock, but the other thing is this bill like they iced him and he was way off. When they iced you and you get that free kick, does the coaching staff not think like, all right, that was no good. No, they were like, trot them back out there. Let them try it again. It was abominable by Hackett. The two, the two moment, it's funny, 'cause Dave ball was the other way with the Giants where he was just like, we're fucking going for it. And he was like, fuck it, we're on the road. Let's go. And then you have Arthur Smith, who's on the 42 in New Orleans up to chance to put away fourth and one. You're going nowhere anyway. You're not a playoff team. This is a game that you ran that first down. New Orleans frontline wasn't even good in that game. Yeah. Yeah. And instead they punt it and it backfires and they lose. And then this one, you got your new QB. You just gave them all that money. Do you believe in them or not? And if you get a fourth and 5 and a Seattle, if you're playing against Detroit in week 13, fine. You're in Seattle. Like imagine that locker room, you come back and you convert that because Russell got it. Or if you don't, you hold your head up high and you say, all right, well, I was putting the ball and Russ's hands. You have no questions to answer. No one's going to question you. The truth of the matter is, Bill, they fumbled twice on the one yard line. They had 12 penalties. They were 6 points. Despite being in the red zone four times, there's a lot of reasons they lost that game. They put up over 400 yards. I don't think Russ looked terrible, but I hear you on your point of like, everyone's response being like, wow, they just got Russell Wilson thinking this is 2016 Russell Wilson. I was like, as you're talking, I'm racking my brain. There's been a few of them. I'm making like Albert Pujols getting the giant deal from like the angels, right? Yeah, I was thinking MBA. It's almost like those NBA trades where you get the NBA star who's like 32. Right, like a loser. It's like, hey, you see? I'm trading Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond. Yes, but what version of Mitch Richmond am I getting, right? That's a good example. Yeah, Mitch Richmond. I would be really concerned if I was a Broncos fan. Really? I feel like I feel like you wash that game away. That was week one and a weird environment with crazy shit happening. And you say, okay, week two, we gotta use it. I get it, but if rust was still that guy, that's like a Kaiser soze. I'm burning down the house game. And he just didn't look like that. I didn't think he to me, he looked exactly like you looked at last year, maybe it'll flip. I don't know, but I'm worried anyway, all the stuff they gave up and they guaranteed contract. And I'm not positive. He's a sure thing. So there's a little new owner syndrome. So that's two mistakes. Third one, the home run swing mistake. We don't have to litigate the Lance trade again. But they gave up the 13th pick in 21. First, in 22 and 23, and a third and 22, for a guy that I have no idea if he's good. I mean, I'm going to give him benefit of the doubt for how bad the weather was and all that stuff, but at the same time. Maybe. I mean, the other guy maybe. Right, the other guy did at the end. I don't think either guy was that great in the game, but I don't know. All of this, there's so many red flags. The fact that they kept Jimmy G, the fact that okay, what's the bigger mistake though? What's the bigger mistake? The trade itself, which is whatever, or the doubling down and without him winning the job saying, he's our guy, no matter what, even though Jimmy just took you to the, because we've been down that road. I mean, this is like heath schuler's the pick by the Redskins, and no matter what, they're starting him, even though Gus fort outplayed him every single time. And the opposite of this would be like, Brady, getting The Rock from Belichick and being like, I don't care about where you were drafted and what we're paying Bledsoe. You give the ball to the guy and the niners just gifted Trey and look, Trey might be the better quarterback. It was still very early, but for him to get it out of the gates and it to be a no brainer, even though Jimmy's still under contract at the time for 25 million and just took him to NFC championship game was a wild decision. That might be the mistake. Maybe you let Trey win that job or you go to Trey, but to say in February, Trey Lance is our guy. It's RG three and cousins or the opposite being Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn. Like Russell Wilson won that job and was a third round pick and Pete had the confidence to say, gosh, I got to give it to the best man. Trey Lance kind of given this job and I'm curious to see how much never works in football. It doesn't. It just does the team knows. Yeah, we were still on van and I were texting about Bryce young the other day during that game that I will be able to ask. Well, I was like, he reminds me of all the things I don't like about Kyler and Marcelo during the game was saying, the guys got incredible
The MMQB NFL Podcast
"noah fan" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"And if you tie Buddha action to that, I think it's going to be really hard to stop. And Russell is great coming off of boot action. He's more comfortable on the move. He doesn't even have to do the Russell Wilson things, right? He's going to be he doesn't have to spin backwards and kind of do all those weird Madden glitch things just to find an open wide receiver. He's just going to, he's going to be calm, collected, he's going to have space and an opportunity to get the ball down the field. So I think he's going to have a better season than Derek Carr just by virtue of the fact that the offense around him is better. Structurally, the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah, I felt it's funny because my favorite Russell Wilson offense was that year. I want to see it was 2015. It might have been 16. One year in the second half of the season, they just switched to quick strike passing game. It was all quick game. And it was awesome. They came up short. I think that was the year after they had lost the Malcolm butler game and came up short in the playoffs, lost the game in Carolina. To the Cam Newton sort of juggernaut Panthers and that's the way it went, but Russell Wilson is over the course of his career. He's been near unstoppable when he can get late into the down. And things open up even more. And I mean, gosh, you know, on paper, it looks, it looks like it all should go pretty well. And we'll see if it does. Yeah. I agree. So I'm doing my predicting all 272 games. And the AFC west was impossible. And I don't think it's the version, my version that comes out is going to be incredibly unpopular for several reasons, but does this team win 11 games? Do they win 9? I don't know. I don't know what their sort of window is at this point. But we'll get to that. Yeah, let me ask you this. Who moves you emotionally among the players on this roster? I'm gonna take an obvious friend of the podcast. We'll call him Albert O, but Albert, oku weib unam. How did I do on that? I think you did really well. You lose Noah fan. Albert O not known as sort of your knockdown drag out blocker, but this is the guy that interests me the most because what you need and they have they drafted a tight end in the third round to the Broncos. So it might be a player that's a better kind of custom suited to this offense. But Nathaniel Hackett in Green Bay, he needed Mercedes Lewis. That was the instrumental piece of what made that offense run. Was the secondary tight end that was just going to be an ass kicking blocker and was going to set the table for everything that they did offensively. There's a lot of these little things in this offense that coaches need for it to function properly. And so I don't know if fan was ever going to be that guy. I'm sure you wouldn't put him in the trade if he was that essential to your offense. But who is going to come in and replace the talent and are you going to get enough of a receiving threat? But more importantly, a movable blocking piece to make this offense work the way that you need it to work.
The MMQB NFL Podcast
"noah fan" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"And so I think it's interesting that all of a sudden this becomes that becomes interesting when it wasn't interesting a year ago when it was probably a much better time to actually do the deal and trade them. Yeah, and this package, I'll say this, the team that sort of comes out of this day looking the best is probably the rams again because they're Super Bowl champions and also they paid basically half this price for Matthew Stafford. But the terms correct me if I'm wrong, two first rounders, two second rounders, a 5th rounder, drew lock, Noah fan, and Shelby Harris, by the way, I'm a huge Shelby Harris fan. For Russ and a fourth rounder here. So that is, look, if you're starting with Matthew Stafford's compensation to the lions as your jumping off point, that is a lot. But as you mentioned, probably would have been more a year ago, although, you know, what? High touch 2020. That's the way these things go. Yeah, and the other reason was and again, this is another one, right? Where the cap is a fictitious thing. Do you watch Wolf of Wall Street? Oh yeah. What is Matthew McConaughey say? At the dinner, what is he like? It's fairy dust. It doesn't exist. The cap and that's what he was saying about stocks or whatever, but that's the same thing is true about the salary cap. It doesn't exist. It's not a real thing, but at the time I was thinking, okay, if you're Seattle, you know, there's a that there's a reason Pete Carroll came back because I don't think Pete Carroll signing on for rebuild, which he is now. I didn't think you were going to want to manipulate 26 million, I think, in dead cap dollars. I didn't think anybody was offering a bigger package than the bears had offered a year ago. But I was wrong, you know? I thought this was the end of the brief end of the era of mercenary QBs, especially since I saw at understood that Rogers was coming back. But interesting. Well, let's get into it because I think that there's a lot of angles here. Let's start on the Denver side. I do want to acknowledge your McConaughey impression was decent little pitch was a little bit too high. I can't. He's very, very hard to do. He's very hard to do like a good McConaughey, you know? I could probably do one, but I'm not going to try. I don't want to show you up. Can you really? I've never tried. He seems like he's someone who's easy to do an impression of those, so I'm going to I'm going to say I can do one. I'm a regular Daryl Hammond here. All right. Although I only in my mind. Okay. Let's start. Let's start in the Denver side of this thing. On one hand, okay, you just gave up this huge package of picks. You brought in a guy, and we've talked about this quite a bit. Yeah, he's probably the third best quarterback in your division now. I think there's no one's going to argue about Patrick Mahomes. I think there are some people who will incorrectly argue about Justin Herbert. I think Herbert is objectively better. Russell Wilson still very good makes the team much better..
Bloomberg Radio New York
"noah fan" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Denno European soccer Byron Munich dominating at the Champions League And this one was kind of silly dug they answered the quarterfinals of the Champions League a dominant 7 to one win at home over FC Salzburg in a second like they went 8 to two aggregate Robert Lewandowski scoring her first half Patrick to Mas buller contributing his second half race Meanwhile Liverpool moves on as well This one was a bit scarier They advanced two to one aggregate over Inter Milan This despite losing one mill at Anfield to the Syrian side Calcium mercato in Italy reports that if Paola dibala is representatives can't come to an agreement on the contract extension when talks occur starting Thursday if love is ready to give up on trying to sign the forward Ube has reportedly offered the 28 year old a lower salary than first discussed when a deal was thought to be completed That was back in November Into Milan is thought to be the frontrunners ahead of Barcelona and Atlético Madrid in pursuing dibala on a free transfer Tiger Woods will have his daughter's Sam introduced on Wednesday when the 46 year old is inducted into the world golf Hall of Fame There's being inducted include former PGA commissioner Tim fincham three time women's open champion Susie Maxwell burning while former U.S. women's amateur champion and the first woman to design golf courses Marion hollins will be honored posthumously what a day in the NFL start out with the big trade Seattle Seahawks dealing quarterback Russell Wilson to the Denver Broncos along with a fourth round draft pick for QB drew lock tight and Noah fan defensive lineman Shelby Harris two first round picks two second round picks and a 5th round draft pick Wilson is expected to waive his no trade clause with the deal being officially announced on May 16th when the new league year begins In ten seasons with Seattle the 33 year old making 9 pro bowls winning of Super Bowl and had his most has had the most wins in the first ten years of a career than any other quarterback in history Meanwhile sources report that Aaron Rodgers has decided he will in fact return to the Green Bay Packers Now this is where it gets interesting NFL network's Ian rapaport says the deal is for four years and $200 million 153 million of that is guaranteed Rogers on social media says not true He is coming back but those are not the terms I'm Dan schwarzman that your Bloomberg world sports update Paul All right thanks very much for that Dan In a moment we're going to be joined by Bloomberg opinion columnist shuli ren who tomorrow brother take care man So we'll just have to get a little bit more on that conversation in a moment We'll also check on markets for you right now kind of a mixed picture out there.
GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast
"noah fan" Discussed on GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast
"Don't think he's gonna they're not going to be a ton of games take gonna produce. I'm gonna say that right now is a bowl take but i don't think sake one's going to be that good this year. I really don't and you know what you could say. Well you know going up against the broncos defense which is going to be a pretty good defense and this was without bradley chubb. This broncos defense was good. This broncos defense is going to be good this year. This broncos team overall is going to be underrated and you know what. I don't think daniel jones played awful but he played good. He had that fumble sterling. Shepard was really good and he's a guy that has a really good connection with daniel jones. And i do expect them to be a high volume guy now. I don't expect them to have a game like. Did you know against the broncos every single week. But i do think that dangle jones gonna target him a lot and he is definitely gonna put up solid numbers. So if you're desperate and you need to you know he's got a good matchup disarmament the flex kenny. Only a couple of good catches but he really didn't do anything. Slayton didn't do anything. Other than that. Big cassidy had early on in the game. Overall that would just was not allowed to production on the giants. Offense i mean jones shepherd and and golladay that was basically. Everybody else really. Didn't do anything. And like i said i don't think barclay's going to be that good this year i really don't because this all line is this bad and they keep going up against good defenses. Because now they're going up against washington on thursday which is not gonna get any better bartley is not going to be that good and honestly as a giant fan. I think barclay's kind of overrated. Because if you look at a lot of people talk about this. And i think he's really talented. But this guy in most of the games that he's played as a giant when you look at his stats. They are always inflated by one big run that he has in the game and other than that. He averages less than like four yards a carry. And i don't want it. Listen i. I'm not gonna say he's completely overrated. And i know he's coming from an injury but look at the body of work. I mean it's just he really. I'm sorry the giants should've went into different direction in two thousand eighteen cacique one i mean dealing with the injuries and twenty. Nineteen you terrier. Acl last year. Nine coming off of that injury. I i mean i know. It's only one game. But i mean the giants should win a different direction. I'm sorry and if you have barclay on your team. I really think you should be concerned. Moving forward because that giants line is still not good. But if on the broncos side teddy bridgewater was pretty decent and you know what if you're desperate quarterback he's definitely a guy that you could pick up and maybe start depending on his matchup. No fan was heavily. Involved in the offense cagey hamblur. Dropped touchdown so he is stat. Line would have been lot better. He would have been a top performer for the broncos. Jerry judy got hurt in this game at seventy two yards receiving so look for caja hamblur to get more production. Tim patrick these are guys. You know that if they're available to you. I think tim patrick will be more is more. So going to be available as postage hamlin. I think more people were inclined to draft caja hammer so tim. Patrick is definitely a guy may wanna pick up cortlandt silent and only had one reception. I think he'll produce as he gets back into the swing of things. Brought teddy. bridgewater is not a guy that's gonna go down the field a lot so you know he's going to be looking for those you know slant routes and you know all those those intermediate routes he's not going to be a guy that's going to go down the field a ton but you know the broncos overall play a good game melvin gordon eleven eleven russia's one hundred one yards and a touchdown to me that next outlines inflated for the big run that he had in the game it was a seventy yard run so giants defense did not play well in this game. So that's a little concerning but again it's only one game. And i do think defense will be better the offense though i mean. That's a big concern moving forward but we'll see what happens but yeah. I mean sterling shepherds a guy. They may be good of your flax. Melvin gordon definitely. I mean the at a good game But now at the injury to judy. Look for hamlin patrick to get more opportunities and noah fan you know he he got targeted a decent amount. Definitely a guy that may be having starting lineup as you're starting tight end hopefully you do But yeah so moving onto. Let's get into this game okay. Because i'm talk about this game for a while while for the entire rest of the segment but for decent amount so the packers and the saints the packers in the saints. Thirty eight to three the saints today. Okay and before again to the bad. Let's talk about the good. So james winston twenty nine point six two fantasy points albums eighteen point one and johnson. Seventeen point one for him. And i believe that was the was at the tight end. Yes that was a tight end yet two touchdowns in this game okay. So james winston hundred. Forty eight yards five touchdowns. I was i mean led the league that would the league in week one so far. I mean. we'll see what happens tonight. But.
Fantasy Football Today Podcast
"noah fan" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast
"Nah okay. dan arnold tight end against the jets. Yeah love dan arnold after darnold. Yeah yeah yeah. I got it. Basically the entire panthers roster in this segment so dan arnold against the jets. Ease like a five. He's a streaming tight end He's as zero and the reason. Dave is only four is because you didn't drop these guys as starter so you don't necessarily have to get cute and bench. The guys started for some of these guys. Unless you're absolutely desperate. You might be desperately tight end. you might be. And he's not a bad fall back option. I hope you're not that desperate that you're starting these guys this week. Davis is the third receiver through relief. That's why he's a dj more. Oh ten rally anderson to ten terrorist marshall for yeah for i knew game san francisco at detroit de'andre swift against the niners. He's going to be a seven p. pr Five and a half and non. Swifter barkley barkley. Bjorn barkley for jamie swift for dave only npr pbr. Okay brandon. I also swift over barkley. Say seven on a you. Same as what. I said for davis. Deebo samuel five four denver running backs at the giants now. Let's say davis in and depot. Good the best place. Corey davis is. Do i disagree. I think depot too expensive that might be unknown prices. The back of yeah. yeah yeah. He's he's a little rich. Gordon is a six devante as a four point seven five. Six and five. Can't decide between corey. Davis and t higgins from my last fan will wide receiver spot not. Sorry robbie anderson not higgins. Rob is going to be probably should go anderson all right. He's a solid value. They're both within two hundred dollars of each other all right denver running backs zero to ten for them. There's a ton of cheap receivers that i love on draftkings this week by the way it's unbelievable denver wide receivers. You said no running backs. Oh we already gave you that. You did that one. We'll i'll do it again if you want. I didn't hear it. I guess i'm sorry. Except for six five. Jerry judy at the giants thirty four eight corley sutton. Eight is more reasonable than thirty. Four six noah fan vance's seven five thousand to be a starter..
The Hull Show ? 1310 KFKA
"noah fan" Discussed on The Hull Show ? 1310 KFKA
"For the broncos if it works out. Yeah that's another one that. I'm really just intrigued by like i said i i was in the drew lock camp. I'll admit i i'm. I'm a drew drew. Lock guys ac. And now i'm over it. I'm trying to turn the page. And now i'm extremely interested because this is a story line. And if you're broncos fan you're rooting for him to prove that he could be the guy for the next couple of years. The other one that has me is the running. Back situation zach. Melvin gordon admitted that the philip linzie thing last year khanna bugged. You know you got philip lindsey. Who was a fan favorite. And it certainly. Fans were wanting philip lindsey to take that role and be the number one. There was debates about. It will now going forward devante waves. He's got a homegrown kid but he's a rookie and he showed us a lot in the preseason. Is this the same old story. Just a different cast. You hope not you hope that these two can coexist together and not really because last year. It really was the philip lindy show for one game when he went out and dominated In new england and then at the second half of the season it was melvin gordon. It was his show. We never really got to see a good. Melvin gordon philip lindsey combo together and that's something that we really hope to see here we hope it's not just one guy one week one guy the next week because that's probably not going to play out very well over a seventeen game season brady. It's going to be more like last year. Where one guy has one good week and the other guy has six good weeks. You hope that these guys can play off each other but an interesting thing yesterday vic fangio set that. Get that Devante williams has earned the coaches trust so much that they're willing to put him in at any point of the game at any time in any situation just really shows you how much trust they truly have and so two follow ups there on that side of it first off his melva going to be really reluctant to wanna come out then because devante comes in and who knows i mean he makes a couple of crazy plays and maybe we get the nod to him and he starts getting the majority of the carries. Yeah and on. Top of melvin is on a contract year right now so where whereas last year splitting the carries wasn't as big of a deal in terms of contract. This is. this is a big deal to him. Now you can feel like you're taking money out of his pocket and he knows the situation that he's put in right now he knows that he's the starter for now and that. This young guy is clearly the future. And that's the thing is can gordon's kind of an. I guess kind of a similar position as teddy didn't necessarily have to fight for his position but if he can be really solid and breakout who knows thirteen hundred yard year and and really be great one two punch which to williams then maybe you could look at denver saying hey we're gonna we're gonna bring him back for another year or two so i mean certainly interesting to see what happens on the running back side of things. zach talk to us about that right tackle position. What's it look like. They're bobby massie has a fish. -cially one that job Now he didn't vic fangio. And i believe it when he said this. When he's talked about the quarterback position he says we have two guys that we believe we can play with andrew and petty and win games with now. He said that same thing about the right. Tackle position with body mass. The and calvin anderson. And i really believe him when he said that. About colvin anderson they gave calvin They were so impressed. They let this competition go all the way up until now now bob had kind of had it locked up for about the past ten days but they just were so impressed with calvin anderson and that's something cows is able to continue to develop this year. Then maybe we're not talking about resigning. Bobby massey or going in the early in the draft to get a right tackle. The broncos may have the right tackle future on their roster right now. With calvin anderson zak stevens joining us from dnv. Our broncos broncos giants regular season game one coming up on sunday where we're getting ever so close to this opening game. It's a big one has a lot to it. As far as vic fangio and the pressure let slide over to the defense i. I've let's look at the injuries. What's the status on bradley. Chubb starting just some of the tweets have been seen of yours and install other stuff kind of out. There is going to be a full go on sunday. You know a forego is too much for me to say right now. I'm not going to go that far. trump missed. All of last week of practice was back on the practice field and what seemed to be a very limited role yesterday and after practice when asked if noah fan and bradley will be ready to go for the game vick said he thinks so so me. I have guarded optimism about these guys being able to play. I do think they will end up playing. But brady i think you nailed it on the head. I don't think they're going to be full. Go and i think they're snaps are going to be limited and to me. You need both of those guys out there. You want to see both those guys out there but brady if they're not ready to go then don't have a play and you just hope that the jonathan coopers and alberto's are ready to go and step up for these guys for this game but the worst thing that could happen is you try to force these guys back on the field for week one because you feel the pressure of how important these first three games are and then one of them tweaks it again and then they're out a month or two. You can't have that no question about it. You got to well. I guess fans do kind of worry about maybe vic fangio not saying he would put anybody knowingly in harm's way but maybe there is a little pressure for the now the wind now as opposed to okay. What's the long term plan because vic knows. Hey if i'm in three somehow some way to start these things how boy that seat is on fire. He can't even sit down on the hot seat. Brady doesn't doesn't. This really reminds us of the quarterback conversation that we had been fangio was all about the now whereas fans and maybe people within the organization thought it should be about the future. We'll yeah and i was reading something that just kinda doing some early game previews and everything on the giants side of it. I'm not trying to send the giants are a team. You should compare or anything but they they're saying. Hey our big philosophies yes we wanna get better this year. That's the goal. No question about it but we can't sacrifice this year for next year to there's a lot of pressure to get it done but we have to be careful with guys like barkley. We can't force them out if he's not feeling up to snuff. So i mean you look at that and i just feel i guess i just feel like the broncos that message is kind of lost it used to be elway. Hey we're competing for championship every year. Then it became a well. We're just trying to get this thing right. It's not a rebuild but it is revealed but might be rebuilt. Now it's like george payton's building for the future vic fangio's plan for the now. Yep exactly and george peyton says what what his goal is for. This season is to be relevant in november and december. Well that's pretty much. That's very wide open and vic fangio is all about this next week. Just getting the win and you're so right i. It's a very awkward year. Just to be honest when you have a new. Gm on a six year contract. He knows he's going to be here for a long time. And you kind of have this coach that just like you said brady. And just a couple of weeks on the hottest of hotseat.
KOA 850 AM
"noah fan" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"I mean, he had what? Six and has Saxon very limited snaps last year. You get him on the field board. You got a healthy von Miller, Bradley Chubb. Shelby Harris. Mike Purcell out there. I mean, that makes it a lot more difficult to focus on a guy like that. I think that That could be a lot better for him. Um, you know, I think KJ handlers gonna gonna be a lot better than people thought. You know, we didn't expect contributions from last year. But watching him in the preseason man, even the mid routes, and he's not just a one trick pony anymore. He can work some of the mid routes now, and I think he's going to be a lot more involved than people think a lot of the Tim Patrick stuff and they play a different position per se. But a lot of the balls that went to Tim Patrick, I think age is going to be on the field more this year. Last as we wrap up our show, Benjamin operate popped in the studio. Two guys that him practice much lately. Bradley, Chubb and Noah fan. What are you hearing on them? Both for girls. Bradley Chubb. Definitely a full go that a precautionary thing with the tweak of his other ankle there, and fans is expected to be a full go perfect banjo. He's been out for a while. Yeah. Which chopper fan fans? Yeah, He's been out for a minute, but they expect them to be a full go for this game. So by the way, if Jaquan Barkley doesn't play the Giants backup running back as our old friend of anti Booker I saw that. Yeah, they really What? We're definitely going to see some Devontae booker this week. Probably He was kind of a Broncos killer last year. A little bit for the Raiders. Yeah, right. Good. It's the revenge came and they said he had a great camp and a great pre season two. I mean, one thing about book Um, he is a hammerhead. You have to. He's not going to shy away from contact where you have to really want to hit him because he's going to want to hit you a good way to put it. Yeah, Ben. Thanks. No problem. We'll wrap things up. By the way. We had a chance earlier to visit with Teddy Bridgewater sponsored by the law offices. Dan Capital is a serious Law firm for serious cases. Well,.
The Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast
"noah fan" Discussed on The Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast
"Dot com slash footballers all right some injury updates clyde edwards alaron daryl williams both going to be ready for week one for the chiefs. Saquon is quote gearing up to play week. One against the broncos very close to being cleared takes a long time delays. those cleats. I but i think we brought it up on. The show is super the cle- they lay gas. We would play him if he starting right. Yes i think you have to both of these guys quite edwards allaire and barclay. You drafted them so high there in your starting lineup. And even though. I don't think we necessarily expect especially for saquon who's missed the entirety of senses last injury. I don't think we expect a monstrous game. You you pretty much have to plug in leno. Let me throw another player in there for some advice for week one starters. Would you play odell against kansas city and we want. Oh my goodness because you don't have as high of draft investment on odell but at the same time he's supposed to be healthy asking for a friend he is someone that i think you can pivot off of. He's obviously recovering from the knee injury. And i would like to see how he looks in week. One if you have another upset about. Aj green oh my gosh you're literally naming players too. I just can't stand No rob anderson. Yeah or odell. Beckham i would. I would sort of allegation. All i would go all kind marquez. Calloway probably marquis okay. So what a world so you are waiting to see i. What day has there's more options at wide receiver to to take that's fair. I think that's fair. I'm gonna make the. I mean my friends going to make those changes avenue. Ingram has a. He's a long shot to play in the season opener. He's he's not gonna play but he has been doing work off the side of the field. So yeah there was concerned that he was going to put on the short term. I are but i would expect in the back to the giants sooner than later. De'andre swift ready for week. One against the forty niners. According to head coach. Dan campbell the discount that people have been getting on the andrea swift over the last three or four days. This one is is significant. This one is tough. I mean it's. It's clearly been a pretty nasty groin. Injury groin index dot com four swift to have missed this much time. And it's week one. How much work is have to get versus jamal williams. How much work. When they're both healthy. What does that timeshare actually looked like jamal. Williams was the free agent that they they brought in. And the way that dan campbell talked about this backfield. So swift was it was probably a draft a discounts if you you completely our body on the town but that's what the problem will all off season has been for me with the andrea swift. Is it one hundred percent talent. you're you're buying it on talent only and the that can absolutely work but the situation is going to try and drag him down into the muck yeah he. He's one where you certainly got a discount. If he's healthy without a shred of route y- a great pick in fantasy if he's healthy is scary because when you have an entire offseason program missed you. Just can't be sure. And when that news came out this morning. That dan campbell said he's ready to go week one. He's going to be playing. When that. When i before i read the headline i just saw the picture swift. I was like. Oh no what is this like. Oh he's not ready because we just haven't had that information. I would say this is not a good week one matchup and i think that he will get the forty nine against the forty niners and i think he will get less work than you know. What if he was just healthy. This whole camp process the players that i would play ahead of him would be like remo sturt mile sanders against atlanta gus. Edwards against the raiders. If those your decisions then i think you you might have the luxury to wait and see but he's also good pass catcher and he's talented player. Top ten run defense from san francisco last year even with the injuries. So yeah good. Analysis noah fan returned to practice on monday That's good. I can tell you as someone who needs to play him in week one. I was happy to see it because i was clicking through dynasty options like jordan. Akins and dan. Arnold and i wanted to play no fantasy now i think i will. Yeah for redraft. It's been so difficult to decide what to do. I mean you drafted no offense to play him and it would be scary proposition. But are you confident. Like let's say gronk is on the waiver. Wire andy and you're going week one. Would you just hold fan. Because yes draft capital and play him week wanner. Yeah i'm a little worried about fan. We whether or not even if he's active just because albert oh is going to be available and contributor they may share some time so i i would you be willing to drop vamp for gronk on the waivers. No i don't think so. I guess in that situation. If you're worried about losing a season-long tight end for you. Then you just play him. And even if it's a point or two difference Hunter henry says he's expecting to play in week one as well. Sonia michelle on track to play for the rams in week one against the bears Jamison crowder might play my get cleared from the covet lists. He might yep. Oh this is interesting news For from a standpoint of crowder is out. I think elisa more than goes right into starting as the slot wide receiver for the jets which could be a problem for jamison crowder if allies moore's able to get out there and showcases talent sooner than later dak full go who've who are thursdays week one opener. Which is what we see. We wanna see brady deck on thursday night however Zack martin is is not going to play on thursday night. He's on the cova list. That's the cowboys. Offensive lineman zack. Martin tampa bay was the number one run defense in the nfl last year. So maybe temporary. Your zeke expectations. Yeah zeke zeke. It's it's not good knowing repeated. Well i i started to try to say it. And i didn't like it. zeke stations. Low usually you liked it. I liked lasagna. Let it process. Now you're now you don't like it certainly the noser going. I don't really wasn't supposed to be talked about ever again but he is i was. I was going to bring this up and now i am He is a trade for candidate after week. One absolutely zeke. Because i think some people maybe don't remember how dominant tampa bay's defense was against the run last year if you lose a an all world guard and then you go up against that match up. It's possible that he looks really bad this week. And if he does i think there are plenty of leagues. Where zeke dropped to someone. You know some some leagues. Someone is calling the shot on grabbing zeke. But there were concerns of is is this the beginning of the end for for zeke. He's on his second contract and if he comes out and looks like a turn in week one. I think you're gonna have some managers that are really scared of. Oh no is is. He not what i thought he was. And that's when i would scoop up. Tampa bay gave up the fewest rushing yards the fewest rushing touchdowns in the lowest yards per carry in the nfl s year. So as they returned all their all their starters yeah. I mean the on the other side of the coin is zeke. Comes out and gives you a good game against tampa watch out because the i mean. That's certainly possible. It's not like they don't give anything so is going to be a fun thursday night game. Tyrod taylor the officials started for the texans. Goodness gracious which means that to shawn. Watson will sit and watch yeah. Ab from home on. Sundays doesn't just mean then a couple of weeks. Whoever the starting quarterback is for the texans is going to be awesome. Because i mean you had baiter baker coming after a couple of weeks of ira. Exactly just herbert come in. I mean when when tyrod starts and then leaves if there's a rookie behind him foof is he just walking around protecting his lungs right now. Isn't that what happens. Yes he got the the rib shot and oh man punctured his lung. I i guess. I'm happy for tyra that he gets the opportunity because i sat a few taken away from him due to injury. And he seems like he's a great deal. Dude davis possible situation ever do johnson was signed by jacksonville to the practice squad. Okay i don't know if there's anything else significant to talk about is there anything has happened this morning. Brooke that we need to discuss nothing yet. Okay.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"noah fan" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Jimmy so anyway i think have though right. This is the jimmy dresses game. And i'm i'm staying away. It looked so obvious to me. I love you. I lancs next those addresses. This next game chargers at washington was a bummer. For me because these were to the teams. I wanted a bed on in week. One and they're playing against each other. Which i hate and it's going to happen. You're going to have fantasy players. You're gonna rude. Yeah i there's no way you. The chargers the chargers favourite. I've chargers by one and actually my bet them to do hit it exactly. I thought it was too. I thought the chargers the over under what does the chargers over. I get home field and everything out of it just seemed like the chargers over on i i got i got too crazy with the over on and trying to set these lines and it didn't work out really see like the chargers today. I like the chargers unless something stupid app. If it's nine. Seven going into the fourth thought i. Now i have a loser. Who's worst to bet against him. Fitzpatrick they i mean the honor against you have them and it's fucking terrifying ri- bet against them and it's like you've bet against them one of the three games of the year when he throws for three eighty with four touchdowns and you're like what the fuck is happening. I'm getting killed by ryan fitzpatrick. That's another great. I'd love to know his over on their starts right. So what do you. Where does this line end. is this donald hathaway now. Does it get the three right. So what is it right now. It's would we say one. You got right at one. I'm trying to figure out how the charges fuego how they win. But then kicker screws you anyway by one and a half by the rules are needed chargers by this one and a half and the guy misses four field goals. There's a dry and they end up winning by one right. Last barely watchable z- broncos giants your nemesis the broncos your blackjack table back down on bright. I have branca's by two and a half at the giants by the way not in denver. I whipped on this for. You're gonna fricken beat me again I had as a pick him. 'cause i had trouble just thinking about it. I think teddy to gloves as a better quarterback. I don't know i. I probably should've laid points. Yes i should have. Because it's three denver's at three point favorite in the meadowlands we. We did the over unders. I was saying how love denver's over their skill position guys might be really good this year. Yes sutton's back. I love judy edge quarterback. Last year. I liked himmler thought. Hammer was good down. The stretch by this giovanni williams. They took him the second round. There it's big jerk circle on him like how good he might be three running backs. And noah fan. I like last year too. So bridgewater's even like a b. minus. I actually think they'll move the ball this year unlike last year. Fancy little banged up. But yeah i mean you look at a guy like you know. Do lock had awful. I don't even what was. This percentage is bad the worse in league. He was just not fun. i. I'm surprised but i'm still surprised that they went with teddy. To fanny pack. Fangio would be the The reason for us rent Yeah all right. we're gonna take a break. We got seven games left. And then we're going to appear in court what's old is.
Zero Credit(s)
"noah fan" Discussed on Zero Credit(s)
"Most importantly for private businesses to mandate vaccination requirements. They always could for the most part in the united states of america. If you're a private business you can choose who you serve Which is always a funny thing to talk about conservatives with because they like to pick and choose but it is now much more defensible for a private business to say show us. You've been vaccinated noah fans or buts about it And in terms of marketing opportunities for the fda approval the pfizer vaccine has now been given a name. O- a now. Have you heard the name. henry. I don't believe i have. I feel like this is news. The interesting thing is once you receive. Fda approval for a vaccine. You can actually begin to market it to people and the interesting thing about pharmaceutical products is when you start naming them you name them the stupidest fucking shit. Anyone has ever heard in their tire. Gone name lives because god. Every single pharmaceutical product released in the last fifty years has the stupidest fucking name. It's like ooh. do you want new elixir. Flex her family. The do you want Astroturf you want astroturf you want. Flam brax trill. All are so stupid yet. Drugs hill and do valhalla. Perhaps swanson kasulu grad some. Shigeru off if you want that we've got now Do you want to maybe take a gas to what of no Do we have some marini. Would you like to maybe take a guess. As to what is our vaccines actual marketed. Name is marketed. Name all right so we got the full name of pfizer pfizer bio attack. Kind of thing. So we like i. Oh and and we got that. These deserved all right. So i'm gonna say zero caveat caveat. Oh that's actually you should get into the business of naming pharmaceuticals because that's not a bad one It is in fact much worse though. God the pfizer vaccines official marketed. Name is co mirror. Not co you know. The the two syllables. You love next. Co- and amir co.
Arrowhead Pride
"noah fan" Discussed on Arrowhead Pride
"He plays a definitely plays an important like right now. You don't have hard. I am on frank. Clark like i like i. I can't put him over. Frank right now like i don't feel comfortable doing that. He he was better last year. The frank clark. He was a better football player last year for the chiefs. And frankly i wouldn't. Frank was was not great. I'm just saying as we start. The wrinkling had four more sax last year than luxurious new. As we start the impressive as we start this year though. I'm just saying for me like when. I talk about history and everything that's occurred. I am not sure that i would jump him over that yet. I i don't know man i. I hope that i am wrong. But but in terms of number one corner. Until i see other evidence for me right now thinking about a guy following somebody a guy. That's going to take that assignment. Every week to defined against odeal gets a keenan allen gets. I don't know who denver has but against against orleans. Good receiver jerry. Judy jerry judy. Caja hamlin noah. Fan offense loaded. Not but there's no. I i think i just not ready to go there yet with him. So i mean we'll we'll see. Hopefully i am wrong hopefully by week. Four or five this season. We're sitting there looking at a show. You is dead ass wrong about snead dead from. Here's my question as a follow up to this i. I'm really high on luxurious. Need so much. So that as we're thinking about this right now. Is there another corner other than marcus. Peters that you would take in the last five ten years from the chiefs that are better than luxurious neat. Am i missing somebody. I don't i mean they have struggled that position. If we're counting tire in a corner in this scenario then yeah. I would take him over tyrant i would take tyrant at corner over him. No i mean it's i mean we're looking at terrence mitchell's. That may be the next guy. I mean they. They didn't car was kinda had a little bit of time in air brandon flowers. I was going to say james hasty. I mean that was that was twenty years now. But that's i think he's better second best corner of the last decade. I mean that. And i feel pretty confident saying that. Now i mean. That's pretty impressive. It's not. I mean the the chiefs cornerback. Position has been absolutely pathetic. They they i mean i mean. I guess you could say impressive. Just start. start good defenses. Try it try it names of corners. I skin can't last. The last ten years is brandon car. Even fit in the last ten years barely shocks that he fits say that's been a minute like they. Who are they roll at. Terrance mitchell was on the other side else where they rolling out at steven nelson. Oh come on. Hansie steve member. My favorite landau dude. Sean smith was good yes johnson. That's his name. He was good for them. You saw the good cop. That's a good comper for how i feel about. Julius need i feel about jerry. Need how i felt in his prime about Sean smith and i always feel sean. Smith was a too. I thought he played up to a one with the chiefs. Yeah he has. I think he had the best years of his career with the chiefs. And that was when those were those. Bob sutton defenses. That were like actually decent and we're actually competitive every year instead of getting exploited by nfl. Offenses yeah i think he did play his best years still wouldn't know a one felt like he was a strong too. And that's that's just what i feel like. The kid is. The kid is right now. I feel like we're talking about baseball. How we talk about number. One pitchers versus aces. Yeah feel like. You're looking for aces. i'm talking about a strong number one starter like that. That's what i view these guys as are. they aces. No that's where you're getting into your jalen ramsey's and The top end talent. These guys i think are legit number one starters on a good team. Yeah mike. If we're talking about like that i think he's a to starter like he's a number to start right now. Yeah i think cow gibson that has potential. Better cal keeps. He's somebody who's got all scoured cows cinemas mizzou made or but if he's if he's a number two guy that you're not going to look at it as a number one headed into the year then he's shot brilliant and bershad bruin was perfectly fine for your secondary because that's what britain is viewed as in the nfl. I'll give you that. I i i'll give you that but still what bershad be really. I mean he was a guy that you didn't just leave alone on folks like you didn't just say are Rashad got hopkins. Let's just do it. I'd felt good about brillant and twenty nineteen last year. I felt like he took a little bit of a step back from the chiefs. But i thought in twenty nineteen like when you look back at that highlight reel of some of their biggest defensive plays in that season a vast majority of them involves chateaubriand. It's i. I'm just i'm higher on there. I also once again kind of to our initial topic here tonight ron. I feel better about their coaching staff. Like i just. I trust their coaches to get the most out of their corners. Maybe more so than any other spot on this roster because they've been so depleted at that position for so long that the fact that they've even been able to get competent. Cornerback play over. The last few years is nothing. Short of remarkable. Yeah all right. I guess we do have to to to do. Our annual or weekly conversation of.
Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"noah fan" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"His Mental health or his mental state of mind or where his mind is that and how very rarely is that actually on basketball. There are some athletes who do not do well. Marshawn Lynch. At the heart of it. You know, we either thought it was kind of cute and entertaining that he did. I'm just here so I don't give fine, but I think it's born out of a real anxiety that he has that drinky. Has legitimate and anxiety issues. That is very hard for him to handle having a bunch of reporters peppering him with questions. Ricky Williams. Remember when he famously did that he met with the press at his locker and is wearing his helmet. I never want to Try to Go at somebody who is saying that there is a mental health issue here, but It's not Wide spread. I don't think they're plenty of athletes. Who have found ways some embrace doing Press conferences. Some have fun with it. Some are intentionally combative. But that's how they get through it. Some do the You know the Bill Bella check. Type thing, you know, giving candy answers. Coach speak. Players speak. That's the way they get through it. Um But I would say more athletes than not. Handled it. In a better way. It doesn't affect them the way that Naomi Osaka is saying it affects her and I'm not trying to Put her down or criticize her. Or anything like that. I'm just saying Not everybody has the same concerns is Naomi Osaka. So please don't try to turn it into this crusade where we should do away with post match post game. Press conferences. Because it is a vital piece. Of our sports landscape. It is part of the reason why Name was sokka. Is one of the highest paid athletes in the world. Without that. The media being the conduit to the fans and the fans being able to have the level of access that they have to be able to hear from their athletes. They're not going to invest and namely of soccer probably doesn't care and that's fine. Just like the fan behavior. There have to be consequences, and she will be forfeiting prize money. For every press conference that she misses there has to be and she says she's okay with it. And she wants the money that she's forfeiting to be given to a charity that deals with mental health. And and I, that's great. I hope she matches it. I hope she takes money out of her own pocket and matches it. I think that's a great way to raise awareness for mental health. But there have to be consequences because this is This is part of what sports has built on. It's why it's such big business. Press conferences, interviews these kind of things. Are important. If you try to rail against them as a whole, then I think you're missing the mark. You're trying to undertake a crusade that doesn't need to be undertaken because there aren't athletes. There aren't as It's not as widespread. As maybe Naomi Osaka feels that Or maybe I'm misreading her, and she's only speaking for herself. I just I read the post and it just kind of feels like she's trying to She was saying a lot of negative stuff about These press conferences. And I feel like it was almost trying to invite other athletes to join her in this and it's like Don't do that. Do your own thing, That's fine. We will have a level of sensitivity with it. But don't make it like this crusade to end these press conferences, because that's not the way to go either. 5 to 298721 last break, You'll hear little Noah fan. No fan. Has some big goals this year. You'll hear those goals straight from the Broncos tight.
WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"noah fan" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"The segments of the promo, said the homes vs Rogers, Chiefs, Verses Packers and that's been scrubbed. Been replaced by the homes, vs Lamar Jackson Chiefs Ravens. Does the league owned NFL network know something that we don't and preparing for No Rogers in Green Bay? I don't think we want to get cold Take exposed a lot Don't know. I mean, if we move like, I don't know, like I was thinking about that, too, because I had to do We did an instant. Actually, it's on NFL dot com. Right? Dallas an instant debate of like what quarterback matchup. Are you looking forward to seeing the most this season and I said Mahomes versus Rogers on Lee. We're going to get it twice now, when he goes to Denver, I don't have any insight. I was making a joke. Don't know anything about that. But you know That was my That was my take on it. So they are. You know, it is one of those things like, you know, I don't know. I don't know what goes on with the schedule making process or anything like that. It seems more complicated than it should be. But I don't know anything about it, and it's like There's probably like the Packers like I would assume we're going to be on a number of prime time games like they Jordan love. Do you want that? You want that Packers team on Thursday night football on Monday night football? I don't know. Sunday night. I don't think so. No, I think there's I think this is causing a little bit of a problem. You have to pull back on Packers games in prime time on Wednesday, because you just don't know because the first time we see Jordan love is interesting. The 3rd and 4th time. Nobody wants to see it. If he struggles. Nobody wants to see a sub 500 struggling rookie quarterback, ER, second year quarterback but first year starter Nobody want to see it on Sunday night football, so they're gonna have to write back. I mean, I don't know. I kind of feel like I'm but on the anomaly I want it's actually you know what Give us give us Jordan Love on Thursday, like, give us a chance to go out there and win a primetime game against the Packers. I think that would be the most polite thing they could do. I don't understand, though. How Rogers with a straight face can say I'd rather go to Denver or I'd rather go to Las Vegas. Because those teams surrounding him aren't better than the Packers doesn't give him a better chance to win. So I mean, can we take him seriously, if you want to go to Denver or the Raiders. Well, I just think he's looking at quarterback situations and by the way, rude to Derek Carr like you don't need to do that. What did he do? What is wise? Why is Derek being thrown into the mix here like he's He's been playing great, and I agree with you. I don't know that they're going to the Las Vegas Raiders. Is a huge upgrade for him. I look at that Denver I guess I don't know they did. You know, they spent a lot of draft capital on the wide receiver position. Last year. They got very Judy KJ handler. They do have Noah fans. They're Courtland. Sudden things like Decent but you can't even with your own division in the A C West. The Chiefs are still gonna win that division. You gotta be a wild card. I know. Listen, I believe me. I love it, I think but again. You know, he's just looking at quarterback situation where he could go. I think he would beat out through lock. I'm assuming. Figuring that, but yeah, I think that he's trying to look at is the one I think that the dream scenario for him was going to the 40 Niners on draft night because that would have made that would've made the NFC West. Very interesting. Obviously. And I think the Packers were smart enough not to do that. Like why? Why? Given NFC rival you know Aaron Rodgers. But if see, it just feels like Denver would be. I think it's just a convenient thing that more than anything, I don't think it's a dream scenario. He doesn't look it. You know he's not watching Jerry Judy film being like I got to go play with this guy, but he's just thinking of the situation you could go in that needs a quarterback. Adam Rank joins US NFL network at NFL dot com. You are a huge angels failure, actually, the most passionate, loyal angels that I know. And so we all thought about.
The High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour
"noah fan" Discussed on The High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour
"I think i like dallas. Got her a little bit better at that. I can certainly wait. Another round and take logan thomas Fans i don't know because they denver offense. I am a little cautious approaching it. Okay well we know that you know you got balki as a player that is still coming into his own. This guy's not even twenty four years. Old and i tell you where noah fan impressed me Yeah he moved to sixty two balls Last year only three touchdowns sixty two catches have a pc format. That's going to reward. Just reward you better this year than god would have even last year His combine numbers were fantastic. And you can see that in his play but if you watch this guy closely you had a high ankle sprain. He got it and we ten. He continued to play for the year. What's the best ability and fantasy football availability. People sit around and say oh all my guys got injured. Well if you had noah fant. He was injured too but he kept playing which means he's tough as nails and he's got respect in that organization respect in that locker room. He's got receivers that are gonna stretch the field. And he's got a young quarterback. And i you know they watch on or whatever it. It's probably a pipe dream but he's got a young quarterback is going to have a training camp this year and won't be having a new system installed with casual get togethers in the park esteem at a lot of things going against it last year the one thing the broncos always have going for them is noah fant. I can't get any more excited about this player. And i'm not gonna worry about taking him in the sixth round because i believe he should be going higher. He'll be one of the guys that were were talking about Yet he may supplant andrus as the taian for off the board this time next year. Okay so clearly. I'm not reevaluate. My stance and noah fant after hearing what of the most respected names at least in my mind and i think in the fantasy football industry in general Talk up nor fans. I think i may have to look at this again. Feral you know the great thing about this is is you and i get a chance to flesh this kinda stuff out each and every single week. over the course of the season and i can't wait to talk to you again. Next week and spoiler alert will be doing it in.
KOA 850 AM
"noah fan" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"Because you assume that he can come in and And get you competing with Kansas City and into the playoffs. So you're trading future first round picks that you're anticipating being in the twenties, Potentially And to me that that has to be taken into the conversation as well. But again, that's what we're talking picks, and I think when you're giving away several young actual players, it becomes a bit of a different conversation. Especially I love how you put that the core. Like what we view is the core. Maybe that is different for everybody, right? I mean, we could kind of go round and round on what that actually identifies with. But Jerry Judy. I think for a lot of people identifies this part of the young core like this is the guy you want to see more from. You don't want to move on from him after one year where we saw good performance. We just saw great performance. But we think he has the greatness in him seeing him opposite Cortland sudden seeing Noah fans out there your first round pick. I mean, at some point in this this conversation You say Wolf. I'm giving up picks, plus three guys I took in the first round that that to me feels excessive. I mean, and and maybe that's where I I do. Draw the line. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's for sure. Excessive. I mean to me, it's the I would give as much draft capital on just this is my opinion, right as much draft capital is possible and as little player capital as possible Now again, it all comes down to what they're asking and all that. Maybe that's not possible. But To me when you look across Denver's roster currently area as you know, if you're George Payton, and you're looking at those key positions, like left tackle like a number one stud receiver pass rushers. I mean, Denver kinda has a lot of those locked down and has a lot of promising talent and so In terms of giving up future draft capital. You know, obviously you're thin a corner and you got to do something at right tackle, probably in the future and quarterbacks. Really the other big question mark when you look at the key positions across the roster And so I think you know you could. You could for go a lot of those draft picks and Denver's still in a good spot from a roster perspective, but to your point on twins when it comes to players, and you start getting rid of some of those guys. Then you know you're not given to Shawn wants in a team to really play with. If you're giving away all of his weapons, I'll take radio setting George Payton up for failure. Are the people that are suggesting that the Broncos had to be all in for Matt Stafford and to Shawn Watson in Year one setting the general manager, brand new, gentle manager of the Denver Broncos spin on the job less than a month up for failure. Yeah, I think he walks into a tough position with with these guys all the sudden become available, and I put this out, probably a month ago or something. Now, that really no matter what George Payton does right now at the quarterback position, he's gambling and I think And that's not a bad thing. I think we have to understand that and I think that's where maybe you get some of the disparity is no matter what he does. He's taking a gamble. And so you know, some guys Minds going all in on the veteran quarterback or trying to trade they want to go for that high stakes gamble, whereas you know, staying with three lock. That's just as much of a gamble in my mind or you know it Z different prices, But you're you're still dealing with unknown commodities. And so it's not like George Payton just sitting there, twiddling it stung when he's having to make a decision. To really, um you know where he wants to put his chips and how he wants to gamble and it just to me. It's a matter of where he ends up going in that direction. But either way you're making kind of Ah, decision with unknowns, and so I think that have to be factored in. You can't really fault them because We all know the quarter quarterback options currently, and none of them, I would say are sure thing. No question about that. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Interruption, But yeah, You're You're 100%. Right? There is no sure thing and and what we even can assess on Drew lock and we talked about this quite a bit. What could we even assess on Drew lock is based on what point in the season. You're pulling data from and where you think that this thing is leaning? So I mean, ultimately, I think Ben is kind of frame this appropriately. Is that really he gets training camp like this isn't like he gets one more year. It's he gets training camp in again. That's assuming, of course, that the Shawn Watson thing doesn't come through and and so on and so forth. I want to get to your podcast You did with Tim Jenkins and Joe because because that was really, really good. The thing that we talked about last night, though, that I'm stuck on just a little bit. Is this notion of the scenarios in which you do move on from Drew lock like he said. If you go get Sam Donald, you have to move on from John Locke. He's basically lay out almost every scenario. Besides bringing in like Andy Dalton, you've got to move on from Drew. Lucky said You take a first round quarterback. You have to move on from Drew lock. Do you agree? Yeah, I actually, um probably would have disagreed before talking to Tim, and I think he may have convinced me.
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"And it just didn't get done. So I think the jury's still out a little bit on Kirk Cousins, and then obviously they also went the trade route. I mean, they have bred far they had case Keenum. So obviously you could say Brett Farve was really good for them at the time he was in Minnesota. Granted, they didn't make it to the end result of what they wanted to do there, either. But I think Brett Farve played well enough after his time in Green Bay that I think you could call that a success as well, bringing in Brett Farve. It was a big move, so they've tried everything first round picks. Trading for a quarterback and obviously the free agency, right. So George Payton, learning under Rick Spielman, and he was with Spielman at three different spots. He was with him with the Bears. He was with him in Miami, and he's been with him for Double digit years in Minnesota, so he saw everything. So I don't think that he's going to be afraid to pull the trigger and going a different route. A couple of those first round draft picks that the Vikings had on Lee got one year. I think the one that got the most was Teddy Bridgewater, and he got two years before he got hurt, then that was the end of that. So he's not afraid, if if it's not going the direction that he wants it to that he will go in a different direction. And I think if you have the opportunity to go out and get a top five quarterback that is what age 25 you do everything that you can. So that means three first round picks Andrew Luck. I'm definitely all in on that. And I even told you That I would even toss in Jerry Judy into that deal to sweeten it to make sure that that that can get done now granted, Let me just say this. I would try and get the deal done without throwing without Judy short, But here's my reasoning is toe why I would make him available in any particular deal. And obviously the shot. Watson has a no trade. So we could block coming to Denver, regardless of you offered the whole Bronco team for him, right, You know, But let's just say to Sean was interested in coming here, and I think he should be interested. Because if you look at the talent on this roster, it is young. And they're very talented. You have Courtland Sutton is the number one. And here's why I would give up. Jerry Judy in that scenario is because Tim Patrick to me last season showed me enough that he could be the number two number two wide receiver on this team. And you were gonna be successful with sudden and Patrick that you could say you don't have a burner out of those two, because I don't think anybody thinks of Of Courtland is a burner. But you did draft KJ handler who can stretch the football field, and I think he showed flashes of that last season. But Cortland sudden comes back healthy. And you have Tim Patrick in Cage, a handler, plus Noah fans. That is a lot of weapons for D Shawn Watson at his disposal, and I think Courtland sudden granted, he's not DeAndre Hopkins, but I think he is a rising superstar in this league. There's no question about that. I would completely agree. I would not I would not put Jerry Judy on the table as part of that deal of potential deal like that, right off that that's that's your ace in the hole that you're thinking long and hard about that. I mean, you're thinking. Okay. Even let's just say I'm not a drew locked believer. Someone is okay. That's fine. So drew locks a young quarterback that the Texans may or may not like what you put him in there. Because if you're getting too, Shawn Watson, you don't need drew lock. But if it's Judy, and lock and three first round picks I'm not saying I wouldn't make the deal, but I'm working really hard to make it a different player other than Jerry Juice, and let's be honest, This isn't about Drew lock it is about who does Sean watching inquest right now. No quiet..