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"noah baumbach" Discussed on Filmspotting
"Swinton in the trailer for 3000 years of longing, the latest from director George Miller. Is it possible Josh that someone used one of their wishes to unite swinton Elba and the director of Mad Max: Fury Road? I mean, not a bad creative team. They've got there. The plot description of 3000 years of longing, a lonely woman, swinton, discovers in ancient bottle while on a trip to Istanbul and unleashes a jinn, played by Elba who offers her three wishes. Yeah, I look back at our movie preview in January and this was really the year or it could be the year of swinton. I don't know if all of those films will come out or not, that were mentioned back on that 2022 movie preview. But 6 or 7 movies potentially could star Tilda Swinton and this one was among my most anticipated. It's going to open in wide release this weekend. We will discuss it on next week's show, along with that, our summer of stanwyck marathon continues with 1940 ones ball of fire, Gary Cooper, starring there with stanwyck, Howard hawks, directing a script by how about this Billy Wilder and Charles brackett. It seems bulletproof, Josh. Yeah, I mean, I kept seeing these names scroll down the screen as the movie started and couldn't believe it. And yeah, I think fair to say ball of fire delivers. Okay, full marathon details at film spotting .NET slash marathons and a quick note for our criterion channel subscribers out there. The final film in the marathon, Billy Wilder's double indemnity leaves the channel on August 30 first. So maybe your last chance to catch up with it there. We do have a little bit of housekeeping before we get back to our fall movie preview. I was off last week. My sincere gratitude not only to you, Josh, but to Mariah gates and to Michael Phillips filling in for me, seems like a great response to the show and both conversations. I haven't had a chance to listen yet because not only have I not seen bodies, bodies, bodies. I haven't seen meet John Doe. I've got to double dip stanwick for next week. All right, well, that should be fun. And yeah, my thanks as well to Mariah and Michael. Really good conversations with both of them. Mariah had been on this show before as a guest with the both of us, but this was my first time co hosting with her and she was a delight, as always. The last time the two of us did a show together, it was a couple of weeks ago. We tried something new, a movie draft, our subject was 8 24 movies in honor of the ND distributors tenth anniversary. No, I didn't take last week off Josh to recover from you choosing Greta gerwig's lady bird before I could, in a shocking story. You are stewing for two weeks. I wasn't, though, I might have been stewing about the results of the draft because we set it up as a bit of a competition. We were going to give listeners an opportunity to weigh in and determine who picked the better team. Now, we also both did acknowledge that while we wanted to win and we wanted to have a claim to list, we also were trying to be personal with our choices and not necessarily catering to a broad audience. And that's probably my way of setting up the fact that, oh my God, did I get killed? Your list in retrospect seems very personal. Here is my list. And I really thought that with at least these first 6 Josh, even though you crush me by taking lady bird, I thought these for 6 put me in a really good spot to win the poll. Ex Machina followed by moonlight under the skin, first cow, spring breakers, Uncut Gems. 7th, I had while we're young, Noah baumbach that is an atom, favorite creature from Trey Edward Schultz, the souvenir part two, and another very Adam choice. I went with Locke as my tenth a 24 film. Your choices. You're much better choices apparently were. Well, I couldn't resist taking lady bird when I won the first choice for the giraffe. So I'll never have to do had to do it. Glad I did. I think it worked for me. But yeah, then went with films that I like, even better, though I am as well, a big fan of lady bird. I like after Yang even better. I like first reformed even better. Probably like the Florida project even better. Those were my two through four. Then I went with a recent title. Everything everywhere all at once. The Green Knight, another one from this year, Marcel the shell of the shoes on, the witch, Zola, that's probably my most personal one. And yeah, my discovery didn't realize snatched it at the last minute. And I think it did end up helping me a little bit in the competition. The lobster. So we did give listeners a chance to weigh in. And we did it in two different places. You could have voted on Twitter or you could have voted over at film spotting .NET. We asked simply who had the best a 24 draft. And Josh didn't matter where people were voting because on the website, it was Josh by a whopping 74% to my meager 26%. And on Twitter, where we had a few more votes, it was 73 to 27. I fared only slightly better over on Twitter. I have a little bit of support here. We heard from Dalton nest who said, Josh has this one in the bag, just absolute heavy hitters on his list. But Jeremy lafferty was defending me. Can not believe Adam is getting killed in this poll. He has ex Machina, moonlight, under the skin, first cow, and Uncut Gems, not to mention his list contains, in my opinion, a wider breadth of titles. Josh's has four titles from the last two years, whereas Adams list stretches over a broader history. I wonder if recency bias plays a part in the huge margin of victory.
"noah baumbach" Discussed on The Big Picture
"I mean, they changed documentaries forever in my business is a booming. Yeah. There's more documentaries than ever. And they've won Academy Awards for their work in the space. They've frankly introduced the idea of watching short documentary films to mass audience, which I think is an amazing accomplishment. And there does seem to be genuine engagement. A lot of that engagement is around true crime, and that is becoming a significantly overworked subgenre in the space. But they do a lot of really good work there. They've made a lot of films that I really like. But that does raise an interesting part of this conversation, which is the awards plays in general. And the distinguished O tours that you mentioned and the story that came up a couple of weeks ago about how Netflix is no longer going to be writing $200 million paychecks for people to make their dream vanity projects, quote unquote. Noah baumbach is the last one. Yes, for his $140 million white noise. The last guy off of spider head. I mean, the number of movies that they've made in this vein, the list is long, you know, Roma and marriage story speaking of bomb back and my beloved mank and The Power of the Dog last year and the two popes, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom, don't look up. Mudbound, dolemite, the 5 Bloods, the list goes on and on. It seems like most of these films were green lit, in part because I think that there are people there who really like good movies, and so they're trying to make good films and they care about film. But also to win awards and to bolster their public reputation and to bolster the value of the company in a lot of ways. The Academy Award can do that still. And the idea of pulling back from that is really fascinating to me. What do you make of what's been happening in that space the last couple of weeks? Is it something as simple as just like Apple came and took their lunch? I wonder, you might be right. And like apple can afford to, because apple can't even spend the money that they have, you know, they buy MLS rights for a decade and it's like, yeah, we make that in like 6 weeks, you know? That would be a pretty brutal long-term L for Netflix. If in fact, Apple ate their entire business because it's not just that they're making TV shows and it's not just that they won best picture with coda in a very short period of time for original films for that company. It's also that they're making joke Kaczynski's next movie, which is an F one drama starring Brad Pitt and it's gonna be in theaters for a little while too. That is that really is what they have been aspiring to with the red notices of the world. That's what they want to be known as. They want to be known as mainstream entertainment with movie stars..
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Filmspotting
"Know it is. Surgery is the new sex. My number four film of 22 so far. We're gonna go right from the satisfying and enjoyable but let's go with discomforting Batman to the movie that had me smiling for a 105 minutes straight. And that's the latest from Cooper rife, cha cha real smooth. This is a movie about a character, Andrew, played by reif, who is just out of college who is, we can say directionless. We did our top 5 movies for graduates last week on the show. I talked about kicking and screaming from Noah baumbach. Imagine rife's Andrew as Grover from that film, but minus the Ivy League pretension. And he's a guy who comes back home after college and figures out a way basically to get by working as a bar mitzvah party host. But it's really about the friendship he develops with a young teen who is the same age as his younger brother. She has autism and her mother who's played by Dakota Johnson. When I say Josh, that the movie had me smiling for a 105 minutes straight. I don't actually intend that to be some trite kind of cliched Jean Charlotte esque expression of how amusing and fun cha cha real smooth is. I literally mean at some point about halfway through the film. I recognize that if there had been a camera on me the entire time, you would see me sitting there grinning nonstop and that doesn't happen that often, but rife is so naturally slyly charismatic and funny and the writing and the chemistry he has with Dakota Johnson, whose character's name is domino, is so charged that I really did have that kind of physical reaction to it, where you're smiling, sometimes because of a joke or a certain bit of banter, but mostly it's just in anticipation. Just watching these two characters connect with each other and excite each other. I want to thank you for being so kind to Lola. Easiest thing in the world. I'm having more fun now than I did the whole night..
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Filmspotting
"Steven 5 Z, it's at S 5 Z he said booksmart should be seen when you enter high school, not when you graduate. I love that framing. I think that makes a lot of sense. It kind of speaks back to the idea of, you know, wanting to see the people a few years ahead of you, what they're experiencing before you actually get into it. You said this is the lady bird memorialist Adam. I was so sure that was going to be on your list. I almost put Greta gerwig's little women on mine. Because in some ways, I feel like that speaks just as much, if not more, to the graduate figuring out who they want to be in the world. Incredibly different films in so many ways, but in the Saoirse Ronan characters, at least, they're struggling with some of the same questions. And I think that's to both movies credit. And then lastly, I just want to say, I framed this as sort of a mini marathon. You might want to program with your kids if they're graduated in moving on, I would actually say, and I almost cheated and just made this one of my picks, so I didn't have to do any more work. Leave one of the slots up to them. Say, we're going to do 5 movies. Which one would you pick? And I only say that because when my older daughter went off to college, not too long ago, she requested, can we watch all the Harry Potter movies again before I leave? And you know, I like most of them. I'm not a fanatic, but this was a part of her childhood. And it ended up being this incredibly cozy experience watching all of those movies as long as they are as complicated as they get together as a family. So maybe if you're thinking about doing this, let the kids pick at least one. And then lastly here, speaking of Harry, we did get this listener suggestion Tanner hoisington on Twitter. He threw in sorcerer's stone as a possibility and said, even though it's just the first of the series, Harry goes on quite the journey before finishing his school year and that ending is nice. So that makes sense. I could see that pick from Tanner. My honorable mention speaking of really nice endings, there's a universe where Richard linklater's dancing confused is in the Pantheon and doesn't make my list, but boyhood is at number one. You mentioned little women and we talked about ladybird. I know there are listeners out there who think Francis Haas should be on the list and I'll put another one above it that is also from Noah baumbach, but written by gerwig and that's mistress America about a young woman who is entering her first year of college. Of course, if you're gonna talk about the last picture show, you gotta mention George Lucas's American Graffiti, ghost world was one I strongly considered and I don't know if it's Ethan Hawke it is hunky as to because we do have before sunrise, but reality bites is another one that I do think is worth a shout out here. Hunkies? I don't know. Oh, he's hunky. I don't know if either hot goes hunky, dreamy. I'm gonna go you having to go mean reality bites. Oh, I have. I just think I don't know that characterizes his whole vibe. I think dreamy is maybe better. Okay. He's honked out in the northmen. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. Our next top 5 is funkiest characters. I can't wait. Kamaru Porter writes in says that she voted for lady bird in our poll, but she calls out real women have curves. Starring America Ferrera is a high schooler dreamy of going away for college, but her mother wants her home working with her at a dry cleaners. I haven't seen that film sounds like you have Josh. Really good movie. Great pick there. A film I can cosign, kamari says, isn't Boyz in the hood technically a high schooler in transition film too, and it absolutely is great. John singleton movie. Thank you, Kumar. Finally, Josh ashen Miller in LA says, just a suggestion, one of my all time favorites, baby it's you from 1983. This is an early John sales film starring Rosanna Arquette and Vincent spano that I do also recommend. Again, those are our top 5 movies for graduates. We would love to hear your picks or any other comments about the show. You can email us feedback at film spotting dot. Net, Josh. That is our show. If you want to connect with us on Facebook, Twitter or letterboxed, Adam is at film spotting and I'm at Larsen on film. In the show archives that film spotting dot net you can find reviews interviews and top 5s going back to 2005, you can also vote in the current film spotting poll, which has us looking ahead to the release of Pixar's light here. We're asking, what is your favorite original non sequel? Pixar film from the last ten years. There are some good ones to choose from, believe it or not. To order show t-shirts or other merch visit, film spotting .NET slash shop, and you can subscribe to our weekly newsletter at film spotting .NET slash newsletter out in limited release..
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Filmspotting
"Then to hear the four performers from the original care sitting around, sometimes piano in the townhouse and turtle bay delivering it, and then at the end of the it's just absolute magic. But the storm. Only consulting and his story. That's how fundamental. I really hope people discover it. People don't know Pacific vouchers very well. They may not know this song, but this is a wonderful way to discover it. And it's also coming after something like Sweeney Todd and epiphany, not crony, but after the pick, it's the most affirmative and sort of mysteriously joyous and inspiring number for reasons I'm still trying to figure out both musically and lyrically gorgeous. Just wonderful work is best. And this is why we love when you come on the show and bend the rules of our top 5 lists because this was a discovery for me, watching it today in preparation for this show. And seeing him in part two, detailing the process of writing the song. It makes you realize just how eloquent he is and how open he is at discussing that process. There's maybe no artist who's better when it comes to that. And then on top of it, his earnestness, which is another thing I love about Sondheim. He expresses there with no hint of pretentiousness at all. Again, with no hint of ego or vanity, he says in that conversation that every time he plays that song or sings that song himself, he's moved by it. And I don't know that anybody else but Sondheim could pull off saying something like that about their own work. And you believe he fully means it. And again, you believe that it isn't coming from a place of vanity or trying to pump himself up as a composer and lyricist. Yeah, so he's not exactly and by temperament he's not a sentimentalist. He's not an easy cry. I don't think so that he actually just believe it when he says things like that. I guess I recognize the emotional makeup. I don't usually cry unless something falls on me. You know, I'm not from particularly easy crime. Unless the key for me is music. And I think maybe what even surprised Sondheim as the composer half of the composer lyricist he was for so many shows. The melody line he's established in someone in a tree is just is just faithful enough to kind of Japanese musical harmonics and traditions, which I barely have the I don't have any knowledge. I can talk about with that. But it's just a lovely rolling kind of brilliantly repetitive but without ever tiring out the audience. It's just kind of knocked out by it. Every time I hear it, and I never really quite understand why. Well, that brings us to our number one pick, a shared list and definitely a shared top choice here. Myself and Josh. Adam Driver singing being alive and Noah baumbach's mirror story. Somebody heard me to do.
"noah baumbach" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Sucks? No, but I'm saying I'm saying movies are back. Ten seconds. Dobbins, movies or TV. Movies. I haven't seen any of the show. I had to skip two episodes of the watch. 17 years ago. Did you start vigil? Four 35. What's vigil? The submarine show. No, you didn't tell me about this. You guys sent me a text, man. Because you know, once I see it's a show, I haven't seen anything. I should have gone directly to you. I'm sorry about that. He's reading mommy blogs. I don't know what to say. What's the bit at? Four 35 for Shaun. For 50. Yes. This is not hard, man. This is a Martin Scorsese movie. We get maybe one or two more of these. Let's treasure it. Very strong case. I tell you what, you're every time you say one thing you convinced me I should keep going higher. Which means you are a brilliant auctioneer. I do think at some point Sean that you should start doing math. 5 seconds. You're okay. I got two movies in my back pocket. Nobody else has bitten on that I care about. How do you know? Well, we'll see. We'll see. Yeah, we will see. What is it at? Four 50? Yeah. You can have it at four 50. Morty. I loved it. What if this is kundun too? In terms of temperament and place. It's a Martin Scorsese movie. What are we talking about? Yeah. That sounds like some regret. No, it's no regret. I'm so psyched with the movies I got so far. Where are you going next? Spider head? Is it my turn? To nominate something? Yeah. Thanks so, right? Sean, you sort of chicken out at the end there. I just want to say, well, I know. You could have pushed him to 500, I think. Guys, I have a very exciting movie to put up for auction. Great. Great. Let's talk about the new film by Noah baumbach. Oh my gosh. Wow. Wow..
"noah baumbach" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Nor did I necessarily think of Greta gerwig as babette gladney. I definitely thought of both of these characters as significantly older. And then I think about it. And I'm like, okay, well, Greta gerwig is 38, and Adam Driver's 38, and I'm 39 and are the characters in white noise, my age? Yeah. It's upsetting when you catch up to the fictional characters that you read as a young person. Had this experience recently with old Sex and the City episodes very different setting, but same thing. I was like, oh God, they're younger than me now. That's pretty terrifying. I'd be the last time I couldn't remember a moment like this. Is when I started realizing that the athletes that I loved on mother teams that I root for were significantly younger than me. Were like 6, 7, 9, ten years younger than me and I was like, okay, my relationship emotionally to this has to change a little bit, at least, because I'm now mad at kids. I'm not a kid anymore. This is a little different, but it's not that different from that kind of cultural relationship that you have to certain movies and stories. You know, this is a very complex book about a Professor of Hitler studies who goes on a trip with his four kids and is sort of attacked in a way by this airborne toxic event. There's sort of like a cloud of terror that hovers over them in the world. And it's a very scary book in a way. It's a very elusive book. It's a book that is really about your imagination and the kind of anxiety that is wrought through middle age. So this sounds like a big swing for fur Noah, you know? No one makes movies that are tend to be fairly domesticated and localized. And this one isn't a way, but it's also pretty big in terms of its reach and also we're living through a freaking pandemic. And so it's quite a time to be telling white noise on screen. I don't think that this can go totally wrong because I trust everyone involved, but it's definitely everyone's taking a risk, everyone is outside their comfort zone. So I'm very curious about it. I mean, you say Noah baumbach Adam Driver, Greta gerwig, signed me up, no matter what. But it is, I'm curious, it should be interesting. I'm very curious as well. That's also a Netflix movie. No release date at the moment. Okay, what's your number three? My number three is she said, which is the adaptation of the non fiction book by Jody Cantor and Megan tuy who broke the Harvey Weinstein scandal for The New York Times and wrote what I thought was an extremely compelling book. About that experience really honestly about investigative journalism. I just really recommend it. And it is being made into a movie starring Carey Mulligan and Zoe Kazan. Directed by Maria Schrader who did unorthodox, which is a Netflix miniseries that I haven't seen, but a lot of people really love. I watched it. It was very well made..
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Unspooled
"Everybody keeps bringing this up wearing a leather jacket. No matter how hot it is just do it just to be like. I'm leather jacket guy. Just the way the accessible familiar to always wear knee high boots and jodphurs to set like. This is my director costume or the way that brian depalma always wears. When those little vests those like beige vessels pockets all over it. George miller was like i'm leather jacket guy but so you're doing so much in carrying about all of these moving parts moving literally moving parts that could literally kill people which was a lot of stress for him. I mean do you know this. About george miller that he was a doctor before he was a filmmaker. And that's how he got started on mad max in the first place no yeah. He was a doctor in australia. And he kept getting patients that we're like torn up from car wrecks and he wanted to make a movie about driving because he was seeing people get torn apart by cars and he was. I wouldn't call it like gigantic. Psa but it was on his mind because of what he was witnessing and emergency rooms and so because he had promised in his medical career that he would follow the hippocratic oath. He would never ever ever do anything that would get anybody hurt. He takes safety on this incredibly carefully. Even were wanting the most danger that he could have so because his brain is like an all of these positions. Somebody like tom. Hardy is back in the position that he was with. Christopher nolan. Being like i guess. I'm kind of on my own in creating this character. I'm not working. With like noah baumbach. Who's gonna be on my shoulder whispering into my ear like here's where you are seeing. I have to figure this out because there's just too much happening and i'm living in real time there for eight months. I'm also sort of broken by this by the way like. Can you imagine being on the set. This is not like the man delorean. You're not on a sound stage. You are in the middle of the desert. It probably takes you an hour and a half to get to every you're going to be shooting an hour and a half back. There's no cell towers out here like you are in the thick of it in you. I and even when you go home at night there's no energy like think about it as like you are in we talk about going to boot camp and a lot of these warm you earn more extreme version of that. Yeah they are essentially living it. Yeah and it seems that for charlotte's thrown in for tom hardy. They have two very different acting styles. Anyway from the beginning you know how to create a car character. Like i think tom. Hardy is more method than charlie's like shirley's has that kind of physical control. That sort of like they talk about it as like a dancers control you know but just that way of approaching her character. That's like thought out physical intelligent but it's not like coming from breaking herself apart on the inside to create something new. Which is. I think what tom hardy was trying to do here instead. They seem to butt heads. And it seems like they came up with the dynamic. That was kind of like furious. And max like okay. We don't see eye-to-eye on everything we are in this impossible situation and we have to just get through this together even if you don't love being together all of the time i it's interesting because most of it wouldn't have even come out if not for the fact that when this film premiered at ken..
"noah baumbach" Discussed on The Film Buds Podcast
"Yeah there's not a lot of actors who are of pigeonholed into comedy that they get their chance to do. Dramatic roles. religious like proved that they've got so much rain you know like i can think the few adam sandler. Yeah will farrow Stranger fiction movie. Oh yeah yeah on. Cut gyms which i dissolve. Adam sandler amazing yeah. There's i don't know if we're the ones talking about it. But i was telling someone that there's nothing better better than seeing adam sandler be great in a dramatic role. You know like he when he's when he nails it he really really males gonna movie. He cares about young and but even more so in a dramatic role not necessarily a comedy like with the meyrowitz stories. The noah baumbach movie from a couple years ago that he was in. I i mean i don't i don't think there's a single adam sandler comedy that i would say i like really. Yeah wow well but anyways scarlett johansson. I a i think she still retains that sort of young innocence. in this movie She was still pretty young at this time but also that's sort of her character As well she supposed to be like a what am i. The word i'm looking for. I was said foil. She's not a foil. Bill murray but Like sort of a support Character while also still being a having a main role in the movie. They're both support characters to each other. Yeah they've sort of as you mentioned lead opposite lives So she sort of their to refresh his life and he's there to sort of focus hers. Yeah yeah yeah. I would agree. I think that the scene where she's alone in kyoto. The words like a montage of her travelling is a very moving and again the has that sofia coppola existential relaxing. Feel to it. And it's she's a very effortless director. I think in terms of her shooting style. Which i think really adds to it and i think that bill murray she and bill murray have very good chemistry together. Which again. It's very uncommon relationship similar to ghost world with thorpe burcin steep shimmy..
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Unspooled
"Hello everyone and welcome to on sold cia three. Nicholson and i am. Paul scheer and this is our bonus unspoiled series where we sit down with great actors writers filmmakers to talk about three films that mean a lot to them. We've been talking about taking a hundred films to space to save to show the scope of the best in cinema and we throw that to our guests and we say you. What are your three films that you would wanna say the ones that affected you the most. They don't have to be the best but they're important to you. And i can't begin to tell you how excited i am to have our guest today. I mean this is one of my favorite actors. He's so fantastic. You know him from out of sight rescue dawn a war for the planet of the apes. Tra may Reality bites reality bites. Oh my gosh. I mean good lord bird he has been in so many great films and television shows Just one of my favorite actors. Steve zahn who is in a show right now eight. Have you been watching any of white lotus. I am about to that. Isn't i planned for this weekend. To start like oracle and into my seat and getting ready know white. Lotus is new. Mike white show and mike white is again. Another one of my favorite directors who assist is always feel like he noah baumbach. Both scratch itches. I don't know i have instant. Oh i've never seen that kind of conversation done before like it feels so fresh to me on the way i think he has x ray glasses that penetrate into the human soul and the more he does that people who should mike white is incredible. The more i'm like yes and please go back. And watch the two thousand seventeen ben stiller film brad status only i have seen in love and i want everybody to watch it written and directed by mike. Wait hundred percent agree with you. I mean and then if you don't know mike white you would know these other things that he's been involved with school of rock enlightened. It is luck shots lieber so many great things and this new show. White lotus is fantastic. The cast is amazing You have jennifer coolidge molly shannon and connie britton so many great people in it and Steve and i love steve's character in this but without any further do. Let's welcome steve to the show steve. I love white lotus. I mean it really has everything it's a thriller it's comedy it has these moments in that just that just shake you. I mean to your soul like oh so uncomfortable And i can't wait for more of them come out of only in the first two. But what's been your experience you know shooting it and then actually being in it. Because i feel like. I'm i'm at the edge of my seat like i'm watching beato an action movie. Yeah it's really is very cringes. it's very is it. Look odd. I did thing. And when they sent me they would send me like to the first two. And i watched it like. I wasn't in it on. Oh mike this is amazing said now not yet my on our gosh it when you do it you know when you're on a great gig gets no special you know it's going to be quality whatever but it's another thing when you watch it and it's it's it's beyond what hanging out on everybody else's scenes when they rise right in my world so it's one of the better things i i am. I'm been part. I'm really excited about is really quite is one of my favorite brains so i love just anything that comes out of his mind like what is it like being around his brain in person as an actor like what what can you tell us about the way his mind works. He's a he's a master at this craft and i can't say that about me people i mean he but he's so humble and funny in easy going that puts you itys. His directing is good as his writing in his writing is as good as it gets. He's very simple he's he. You know his direction. Three words not six paragraphs right and it's always in and you can tell like worked with director before regarding how this director really wants me to be here. It wasn't like i was part of a a. You know there was a bunch of names and people are fighting for different. Feel value with mike. You really feel valued and necessary. When you work with steven soderbergh. Richard link later like fred. And i because of the situation. We're in this bubble rate. Fred will come to my room and we would rehearse our seeds because so many the other we we would rehearse them like we were doing a play in my kind of in a weird way. If you i mean there are scenes that are five minutes long. It's kind of written like a play and friend would work on these. We were like we were. We had so many opinions. We this is the way we go. Shoot it and mike would just make couple tweaks in fred and i would play in a completely opposite way that that we worked on it trying to pass months really a fun gig and actor and i think what i love about it too is. It's adult right. It's like there's so few things that feel like this is like it. Feels like the seventies films. I just watched the long by the other day with like the robert altman alley and it's like. Oh this is like an adult. There's this this is four adults about adult. And i think that there's such great stuff in here but the cringe stuff to me is always like not cringe in like. Oh i'm grossed out cringe like the uncomfortable moments in conversations like i imagine that in doing those scenes to have to not overdo it either because it feels that the moments are being captured there. There you don't want to make it seem to sketch because it feels so real and when that's when you're watching it i think you you recognize those moments. I mean that's at least how i feel when i watch. Yeah mike was just he. Just i just want you to be real real. I don't care if you say the exact whereas may get real with it strip and create the tone is there. Everybody knows what they're doing. There's no conversation about like. I don't know if my guys like this or that. You know what road you're on you. I know what road connie's on. I know what will jake is on. And then it's fun man and you can explore dealer scenes. Oh my god. Dinner scene suck right Dinner see god. We're gonna be join us for twelve hours worth so much fun because you know we. We could explore the subtleties nurse. Things are just really fun. I i love it. I know that you made a lot of headlines. Obviously because there's a part of you that was seen that you're apart right. You're you're there is a there. There's a very there's a penis out in about It was. I read that but it was. Not it was a stunt penis and it was fully stunt person or was it. 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"noah baumbach" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"So this guy with the prisoner out is He must be the vet and he's like he's been fucking all the cats around here and there's just cats everywhere way. The guy's been flooded. The cuts person boots has been plus has been fucking because he i mean you can't keep them straight yet. Sure doesn't know who is who i mean. This was made in the nineties. Yeah would have opened and he would be smoking a cigarette because he'd be like that was it good for so nice. Janice is louise's There's a there's a trojan with feline instead of droning on it you when you make me feel like shit respect my feelings. Our bravo noah baumbach puts him on that note. Yeah if the cat talked to bush and boots. That would make sense this. I did not understand all rosa. The cat responding to put boots. She gives him like a meow. Like a real cat would and did you guys catch when he's like leaving off into the into the night or whatever she lets out a human sounding sigh. Yes yeah i just like what the fuck is going on like. I'm david you're speaking was a great point. Like the curse. I came inside her. Got her speak starting to sound like a human. Yeah now you get somebody from thirty ross's yeah. Well that's what you know. I don't want to. It's pointless to be like substance in this movie. didn't make sense. yeah nice. Shrek spin off movie domain. But like it is always weird and this isn't some of those trek movies too. He's around cats but the rest of the cats aren't talking. Yeah so then it's like you meet salma hayek later in the movie and it's like why are you talk. It's pluto dog phenomenon. Pluto goofy pluto goofy goofy. They're the same thing but one can walk one canaletto electroshock therapy or something. He used to be upright for so many so many great golfer sanctions. Yuck stock stop asking questions. It'll happen to you. My husband committed. He's awesome things. We shouldn't have gone missing child but yeah so he's just scampers sexy cat rogue right. Yeah he has yes sex and he gets into scrapes. He's still does steal this guy's like bring after the you know you're right this other tabby with the bill this poor lady. She's a thorn up the streets. He uses this ring to like by a shot of milk at a bar. Something let lecce lecce wouldn't match sexy whereas say milk. Lecce is a sexier sound antonio medeiros this guy could say anything through our god. Chevy takes place in spain fact. Donald trump's dane.
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Reel Chronicles
"Gerwig that you cannot say. You're not a fan of credit. Greta gerwig is directing the margot robbie starring barbie film. Listen i more intrigued about this. And i have any right to be because now lee is greta directing she's writing. Script noah baumbach so i i think it may be interesting may what do you think I never thought in two thousand twenty one. We be getting a a live action barbie movie. Yeah so i'm. I'm trying not to judge a book by its cover. Yep yep just because it's rv I am open to it. But i don't think it's something. I won't be rushing to the theaters. Day one to say yeah. I'm with you. One hundred percent be week two or three for. Yeah i agree we two or three when there's no one in the theater and it's just me and i'm like maybe barest exactly dark glasses of the hatay. Hbo max or something. And then i'm like. I could just watch it from home next up. Did you guys see tomorrow war. Not yet okay. i saw it. I didn't really like it but a lot of people did. And it's getting a sequel What you guys see the movie. I can't really touch on base on it anymore. You're probably wonder how we're getting a sequel but we are getting a sequel and chris. Pratt is returning so That look look out for that. And then the last two bits of news leo. I know you watch mostly everything on tv. Did you see the witcher. Yes okay season. Two coming back on december seventeenth We'll probably get a pat on your comic con thinking about it regarding the witcher eight definitely. Well yeah What are your thoughts on the show. I haven't watched it. I i know the game. I never saw the show leah. What are your thoughts on the show. I went into it. Pretty blind on that a gamer. At all i didn't know any of the content. I knew there was a huge type of like phantom behind it when it was announced and people were excited about it that i saw the cast and i was like all gave us a shot. It was one of those like it was on netflix. It's recommended for me. And like i trust you netflix. Sure go and And it was it was good. It was really really good. It definitely gave me that. Game of thrones of fix or it's like extended world mystical.
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Piecing It Together Podcast
"Are you go. Those are my drill team that that's a good piece is definitely thought about Zombieland. Also thought of a quiet place just kind of the tone of it seems similar the the way it's shot kind of seem similar and a little bit of the creature design as well kind of seems similar. And another one I thought of was Cloverfield because we're in the midst of this big giant monster thing and the main story is trying to rescue the girl that he he's in love with sure and a quiet place is of course what they refer to your patreon as cuz you have so few subscribers wage thing. It's a joke bang. There's there's the audiogram for this episode right? Yep. Moving on to our next movie. This one's going to Hulu on October 23rd. It is called bad hair and it seems to be a creepy Horror concept about a I don't know. This one's kind of weird. It seems to be set in like a barber shop and there is some kind of like creepy Supernatural thing going on with them are here. What do you think about this? Did you watch dear white people Justin simeon's first movie. I have not know. I know it's very acclaimed. Yeah, it's really good. You should watch it. Like I I will before I see this thing. Yeah, I gotta watch the series but like I'm really excited about him as a filmmaker and you know, he's telling them stories through a very modern lens and I think you know this so continue on with that Rise of Black horror films, which I know was one of the reasons he was looking to do this job. Listen to interviews with him. He's really well-versed in film history. So I'm excited to see anything. He does and like this isn't necessarily like, oh what I would like if I could pick a project for him. But like if this is the project he wants to do I definitely want to see it. So yeah, it feels like it's going to be very satire and like, you know, so that that at least leaves the like leaves open for like a lot of influence a lot of interesting things, even if it seems a little silly on paper. Yeah, but also it's like, you know, we as white dudes one that you fro you and one bald me like we really don't understand, you know, kind of black women's hair as so for us to kind of you know off the premise is definitely maybe a little outside of our normal but like, you know kind of with like leaves in this and that but like it's definitely something that I think Will Smith A wider audience than just, you know people who go to the beauty shops like that men window white black whatever, you know, so it looks fun. It looks fun. So what do you got for a PCM? Obviously I picked get out because that kind of kicked off this Renaissance of black horror films Jordan Peele Peele. I pick the Chris Rock documentary good hair, which is all about the importance of black women's hair weaves different styles. What what means what in that kind of world of beauty and what's important and then the last one I picked was a horror movie about a different body depart teeth, which is about a fighting vagina that That mercilessly takes its victims. Vagina style that is certainly another body part that could go violent and scary in real life too depending on who you know, so I did not have teeth on my list. Although I see where you're coming from. Certainly. I definitely had considered get out especially, you know, just the kind of General creepy Vibe. It has the same kind of not just the Caspian predominantly African-American, of course, but also just the the creepiness Factor it seems to be coming from a similar place of everybody's kind of all smiles and everything is just a little off in a way instead of it being like big jump scares or anything like that. So I just I thought that kind of similar, you know scariness and then also yeah good hair obviously is a good one there. I also thought of in fabric TJ Peter Strickland 824 horror film about a killer dress which again another kind of strange thing to be a killer blank, but you know down In that same realm of fashion kind of hair exists in so I thought of that one too. So Dave you have any real-life vagina horror stories? You want to share with us moving on to our next movie on October 23rd as well. This one's coming to Apple Plus. Finally something came apple plus our subscriptions will actually get used it is on the Rocks reteaming Bill Murray with Sofia Coppola also co-produced by 8:24. I believe and change. It looks like a sweet father daughter kind of relationship movie. It's kind of like a I don't know like kind of a straightforward comedy almost in a way. What do you think of this? Yeah, it looks a little lighter than some of the Fairway We Know Sofia Coppola for and it's Dad and a daughter and you know, they seem to get along fine. Although they you know, there seems to be a few birth. Choose between them, right and the dad and the daughter think that maybe the daughter's husband, which is Rashida Jones and that the husband played by Marlon Wayans might be cheating on her and then they start to follow him and you know to find out the truth. So hey hurry, it looks fun. You know, we're going to watch anything. Sofia Coppola does exactly exactly and I mean, especially that team up coming back together after all these years. I it looks so light like you said, but at the same time there's no way I'm going to miss this. Yeah kind of felt like it's like Noah baumbach was on valium or something like that, you know, so that works absolutely. Is that the first of your pieces here? No, it's not but one film that I've talked to you about and I could probably on your podcast before the day-trippers Greg mottola, which is a great movie and we should be covering it on some either yours. My podcast I keep pushing for it, you know. Yeah and it is about a family that thinks the husband is having an affair and they follow him to New York and see what's what and it's kind of like, you know know this leads to this leads to this and the dialogue is so smart and funny the casting is so good of all the movies we've mentioned today. I feel like maybe that's the one that I really want to recommend because everyone knows home alone and stuff like that which is still a great movie. Right? But the day-trippers is awesome. I love that movie another movie that I love which of course involves Bill Murray and some type of different love triangle was Rushmore. So this one involves a husband bought a daughter and a father that one of course involves a married man a student and the teacher so it's different obviously paternal love, but I'm excited to see anything else. Bilberry does ever and it's nice that they're reteaming.
Top 10 Performers of the 2010s
"Actually I am kind of I write poetry Snow Book Secret Notebook or your poet. Yeah that's great but you like to hear what sure sure it doesn't really Ryan though. Okay kind of like him better when they don't me to all right so we've heard your number ten. We've heard my number six Adam driver. Who's your number nine performer? The decade? Okay boy this hurts me because it wasn't too long ago I was asking if this was the best actress of the twenty tens and I still think she's in the conversation but Elizabeth Moss. When I sat down to do this list fell down to number nine okay and I think for me. It's it's partly again. I'm backing into the list here. It's partly because her strongest work was on television. I don't know if it's fair. We're a film show so I'M GONNA hold that. It's not fair okay. It probably isn't yet to discount the handmaiden and madman but you're right if you include those. Then how is she? Not One of the performance of the Dick and Jane campion's crime series top of the lake. Yeah so so you know those three works alone in her work in them specifically I mean madman. I made the argument. She's as crucial to that series. Almost as crucial. Let's say Don Draper. She was the lead in in Top of the lake in the lead the handmaid's tale but I look back at the big screen to and The one I love I think great in. I know you love the film more than Me Adam but the collaboration with Alex. Ross Perry's Ben. My favorite thing about those including are probably hurt toured force performance of the last. Ten years is in her smile. I think just from last year and then yeah squeezing in that great supporting part in US last year as well getting to show her comic chops I had to keep her on this list but when I started comparing her to the filmography we're going to get to higher up. Yeah I couldn't put up there at the very top. Yes same process with me. Though she slipped a little further I did begin by ranking top ten actresses top ten actors then figured out how to merge them and go made the cut. I Have Elizabeth Moss in my six through ten actresses but did not make my top ten overall. My number ten is an actress. And this is one where you could accuse me Josh of maybe looking ahead a little too much but I think the foundation of great work in this decade is also there. She is the only other one that woman I'm about to mention. She's the only other one with driver who feels to me like locks. We could already pencil them in for when we're doing this list in ten years okay. We're GONNA look back on the twenty twenties and go. Of course. This was the decade of Adam driver and of Sir Sha Ronin the three great performances come in Brooklyn in Lady Bird and of course last year in Greta. Gerwig 's little women and there's two great films there for me all time great films frankly in Lady Bird and little women. I'm less high on Brooklyn though I like Brooklyn quite a bit and I really do think. It's a wonderful performance from her. She also appears of course in Wes. Anderson's Grand Budapest hotel and I really liked her in Joe. Wright's Hannah for me. Ronin is the insistent innocent. There is some naievety about her. As you look at those performances Brooklyn ladybird little women but really just a lack of experience. There's the census. She still has a lot to learn about herself and about the world and relationships. She's going to make mistakes. She's GonNa make a fool of herself but that's because she's always going to put herself on the line there is a determination and there's a voracious nece to Ronin characters that I find really appealing. I was looking back at my notes from our review of Lady Bird and I mentioned the way she just kind of burns with this intensity and this focus. It's almost like she's from another planet in the way she talks and the way she studying the people she's engaging with there is this provocation that is inherent to the lady bird character where she's just so eager to expand her knowledge her base of knowledge. It seems like that's what she's after in every encounter in life and maybe more than anything. Josh the reason why I wanted to make sure I fit. Ronin on this list is I just want to continue to put out into the universe. This idea that I did see floating around social media after a recent Hollywood reporter with Ronin and Greta Gerwig where they talk about future collaborations with each other. And there's a great question by the interviewer posed to Gerwig about working with Ronan and differences in working with her now versus lady bird and I thought Gerg's answer was really instructive. She says it's the benefit of working with someone you've worked with before. I felt like in some ways I had conceived lady bird before I knew she was playing it and I'd written drafts of little women before I knew she was playing it but I don't know any other way to say it. Except she was an author of Lady Bird but even more so she was an author of little women. I felt like she knew exactly what we were making the whole time as a filmmaker as much as an actor she really became a second director for me. It was like an extension of every thought. I had she'd walk out in another step. I think honestly the closest I've had to it is writing. With Noah Noah Baumbach who is her partner. But that's fitting of. Gerwig I think in her personality that she so generous in giving Ronin all that credit as an artistic collaborator but I think it speaks to the intelligence and again that voracious nece that comes through in her character's it's probably embedded within ronin herself. That made her such a good collaborator with Gerwig. And the key line from this is Gerwig saying I'm interested to see what movie we make when searches in her fifties. And I'm in my sixties. WoN'T THAT BE INTERESTING? And I'm thinking that's great but I want to see the movie that you make together when searches in her thirties when searches in her forties. I can't wait until the fifties I would be perfectly content of those to just continue to make movies together until the end of time. So Sir Sharon did just sneak onto my list ten. Hey I like your band with Jona rubies. Len Fans knew awesome.
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Bad To The Dad
"It is Allie devotion alley screenwriter. He is a producer at AMC and wonderful dad. Wonderful Daddy lives in my neighborhood are girls are friends and Allie. It is awesome to finally have gone bad to the debt. He's green game today and I can tell oh hardcore gay well. He's an entertainment pro. He's a pro but I will say this elephant wasn't for dogs. I don't know if we would see each other. Yes thank goodness for a dog. 'cause that's what gets us out of the neighborhood and socializing with my steps my heart rate my steps up. You know you gotta get the Ten Thousand Steps Day. Ah Well I feel like the dog is walking as I've watched I've watched it in so screenwriting first alley very intriguing. Because I yeah. I think everybody has quote unquote a movie in them. Write a script. They love to write but they just never get around to it and that is a very tough business to break into. How did it happen for you? Well it is a very tough business to break into and it was so very early on. I decided I wanted to be a filmmaker and I realized early that I wasn't going to be like one of these directors who was very camera tacky like wasn't like the cinematographer slash director track. I always wanted to be a storyteller so I did some summer programs. Programmes were made some short films and got into Nyu Film School. which was regulations Dude Jiffy? Yes that's awesome well. I actually took a back door and tim same way. I got into the school as a freshman mar and then transferred okay. Does it matter how you get this. That's well listen. I didn't get into originally. It was aimed building. Yes so anyway I went to Nyu as a sophomore film school. And they're they encourage you to when when you graduate to have two screenplays and so you know you take a lot of writing classes and after a while you. I worked for a producer. Scott Rudin. Who's a Kademi award? Winning producer he produces tons of the COEN brothers staff. Okay Tom Noah Baumbach. He's working with right now. I mean Scott and he was wonderkid. Scott was the president of Fox at twenty nine years old. I was working with him when he was like.
'Parasite' winning best picture would make movies richer
"So the nine best picture nominees are of Ford. Vive Ferrari affordably. Ferrari is Christian Bale and Matt Damon in the story of Ford trying to build a car to beat Ferrari in the lemond race The Irishman when is the Martin Scorsese Film. which is on Netflix? That you might have heard. It's three hours long. Gioja Rabbit is TYCO I. T's story about a World War Two to that is the one with the where he plays a an imaginary Hitler. If you've heard a joker of course Joaquin Phoenix as the comic book character. Sort of little women which is little women you know Little Women Louisa May alcott and book adapted by Greta. GERWIG marriage story which is Noah Baumbach. Big divorce film with Adam driver and also Scarlett Johansson nineteen seventeen which is about two young men in World War One cent. On a very dangerous mission started by Sam Mendez once upon a time in Hollywood Hollywood. Is Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio in Quentin Tarantino's story about the Hollywood of the very late nineteen sixties and parasite which is Bongino Jin. Ho's Really Fascinating story about two families who come together in a very unexpected way Glenn Gimme a quick will win. Should win on best picture. I'd be happiest with parasite movie that just gets better and better. The more you think about it I'd be okay with little women or once upon a time like movies I'd be a little disappointed if it was Ford versus Ferrari for reasons you can hear more about in the full episode and if it is the joker I'll scream into a pillow Because I kinda hated that movie the oddsmakers have nineteen seventeen winning which is surprising to me. Because I like that movie but the best picture of the year really. It's Oscars sensitive from war movie and it's kind of a traditional Hollywood movie in some ways but then at the same time. It has the kind of showy element of having the you know. Made to look like one shot. I I will just go next and say I would pick parasite and you know. I'm going to stick with will win parasite because the last time. I had a tingling feeling that it was going to being upset. It was moonlight backed off at the last minute. So did the telecom. I robbed myself of an opportunity to look smarter than I am. So I'm going to say will win. Parasites should win parasite. I'm okay with nineteen seventeen. I think there is some lovely filmmaking there. I admire fire the accomplishment of it Bob. What do you think will win and should win? I think one thousand nine hundred will win because it's just everything seems to be driving that way it didn't start out that way. What's interesting sting is at the front runners? Initially were supposed to be Once upon a time in Hollywood and the two from from net flicks Irish marriage. I'm sorry Mayor Story and those have kind of disappeared from the conversation. I think it's safe to say none of those have a real strong shot anymore. I would love to see parasite win. Yeah Stephen Anything. I'm in somewhat of the same boat. I would be thrilled of parasite one I would be thrilled if a little women one. I love that movie so so much. I went on record in our resolutions and predictions show. I predicted addicted. That once upon a time in Hollywood was going to win best picture. It seemed like everything was coming together for The Oscars love movies about the magic of movie. Making it is is a movie about old Hollywood. You know who else is old Hollywood. Everyone who votes for the and so I felt so much like and also Quentin Tarantino. Not No he is an Oscars favourite but he typically get's nudged over two screenplay and then doesn't win best picture best director so I really felt like he had an enormous amount of momentum going going in but I agree that nine hundred seventeen seems to have kind of swooped in and picked it up and I. I really liked that movie a lot. I admire that movie a lot. I would be perfectly content content and satisfied to have it win best picture but this time next year it will take me thirty to forty five seconds to remember what won best picture unless it's parasite unless it's it's parasites will be talking about it for decades. Well I think I wrote about this a little bit if you subscribe to our newsletter which is at NPR dot org slash pop culture newsletter. I wrote about this last week but I do think there's a chance that will be parasite partly because the opening up of the best picture category. which originally was talked about as a way to bring? In kind of popular blockbusters that are also of quality. Got A lot of talk about the dark knight and things like that but it's actually done is bring in more smaller films and foreign right language films so eventually it's GonNa Happen. That one of them is GonNa win. Might as well be this one. I think it might be this year. I think people just like that movie. Yeah and the fact that the US preferential voting for this cat this particular story. COMP look it's way too complicated to get into here but basically what it means is if people liked parasite recite for example enough to what it number one number two or number three. It's got a better than average chance or second. Choices have a have a better than average less polarizing films. Do you better than the ones that everybody likes. Even if it's not their favorite
Michelle Williams is Engaged and Pregnant and the Timeline is Weird
"Michelle. Williams is pregnant and engaged to brand new guy who seemingly came out of nowhere. His his name is Thomas Kale and the two met while he directed her in Fossey Verdon. He's also known for being the director of Hamilton. This news broke on on people dot com on Monday which featured the couple posing and some. I'm in love photos alongside the news of their engagement and pregnancy and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah on the surface. Is this all sounds kind of like a painfully boring a listener getting married Blah Blah Blah. But actually it's not boring. It's super interesting. A and very very weird and possibly suspect first off. It's worth noting that Michelle and Thomas are allegedly still married to other people and they also allegedly just met each other a few months ago. This timing if true it feels very noah Baumbach. Greta Gerwig levels of like So so if you're wondering why they went with like the the flashy old school publicist coordinated in people dot com about their pregnancy and engagement. Well first first of all they snuck it in over the New Year's Eve holiday which is a slow news week and maybe they were hoping it wouldn't get that much coverage and secondly she's going to be on the red carpet but this Sunday for the Golden Globe so I'm guessing maybe they're trying to get ahead of the buzz around her. Having a a baby bump page six covered. This writing quote. Many media insiders raised their eyebrows on Monday evening when a cheery piece appeared on people magazine's website announcing the news that Michelle Williams is pregnant and engaged to the Hamilton director. Thomas Kale but the piece which features a family album worthy `Paparazzi shot of the happy pair conspicuously neglected to mention the fairly juicy fact that both Williams and Kale were in serious relationships with other people when they met just a few months ago page six later added quote. The Omission Lead tabloid veterans to speculate that Williams's camp slipped the exclusive to people on the condition that the weekly keep mum about the potentially embarrassing circumstances of their Happy Union and quote sidebar. I Love The phrase tabloid veteran. Can I be a tabloid veteran. I WanNa be a tabloid loyd veteran. Anyway so yeah it seems like they got together and you know they did kind of a tit for tat with people where they were like. Don't talk about how the timing is maybe shady the and maybe we liked cheated or something. Just post the happy pictures of us in Yay. We're all good anyway while most of the world was getting completely blackout drunk on New Year's Eve. These brave souls at my favorite gossip site Ono. They didn't restricting together. A detailed timeline of Michelle Williams's relationships throughout the past three years they summed up her kind of serial serial monogamy writing quote January twenty eighteen Williams dating possibly engaged to Andrew Use men July twenty eighteen williams. Mary's Aries Phil Elvira begins work on Fossey Verdon December second twenty eighteen. Thomas Kale attends the Kennedy Center honors with wife Angela Christian in March two thousand Nineteen Fossey Vert and wraps April twenty nineteen the Williams slash. elver separation is made public Kale attends the premiere of his show without his wife December. Two Thousand Nineteen Williams and Kale announce their engagement and pregnancy end quote. So there you have it Michelle. Williams is having her second child. Silence her kid. Mathilde is getting a little sibling congrats. Michelle and Thomas Kale. Who cares about the the timing and you know the other people whatever? It's all good happy for. Are you guys
"noah baumbach" Discussed on Piecing It Together Podcast
"Beginning to end. Eddie Murphy is really really. He's going forward all the way. And this is the perfect role for him to do it as Rudy Ray Moore and I just I mean it's like this as you know. Hey kids let's put on a show and nothing's GonNa stop us and that spirit goes all the way through in between that and strong supporting performances and just man Eddie Murphy but him up there to. Let's get him into award nomination for this movie. I love this movie. It was just so much fun I loved it too. I'm totally onboard. There is probably my number eleven or twelve but yeah I love this movie so much fun. You're absolutely right I'm still sticking knives out but second most fun movie there. Yeah I I had a lot of fun with it too and I think Eddie Murphy does a great job divine joy randolph. Also as we head in that supporting role yeah she she's getting like someone you want to see more of. Yeah yeah all right so my number five would-be robber the lighthouse This is shocking. I thought that was going to be David wearing a lighthouse lighthouse chocolate all years. How much I thought that'd be your number one interesting? Okay so I really put forth that Fan Energy I guess yes But yeah no I I love I love my entire top-five quite frankly but You know this movie is so crazy and just to you just go for broke performances. Robert Pattinson Willem Defoe just just going nonstop one hundred percent for the whole thing and It it looks beautiful and I completely get anyone who doesn't like it because of the lack of plot but it's for me it's just such a fun thing to watch to just sit there and watch these to just go crazy. I love it. Yeah it's insane. You got that right. Yeah I liked. It didn't level when I saw it and I don't think I ever ever want to see it again but not because it's not a worthwhile thing it's just like. Oh Jesus it's just didn't say like I also thought and I think we've talked about this some points on like Hanson's accent changed and I'm like but I guess he could justify that because his character so crazy can justify anything thing. I think. That's maybe part of the problem head just because it's all like craziness so I would put this on my most disappointing of the year. Not that I didn't like that I disliked it but I liked the witch so much. Okay that Robert eggers previous movie that I was really had high hopes for this and it got a lot of great reviews and I thought it was fine. No they actually liked it more than the witch but on which is great too though yeah it is I was my turn again Yes MRI number four going. Back to my esoteric The theme of the Neo Geo movies which which the listeners have been waiting absolutely. Yeah we're GONNA do a whole podcast on it. I was a good year for those. I actually not another. That wasn't on my list. Post like number eleven But we're talking about number four which is Nicholas Pepsi's piercing movie that nobody saw this year which is too bad. Has It was a lot of fun. In addition to having this year's euro horror omb is. It's very much a Brian depalma tribute as well. It's so creatively shot With all of these deliberately fake looking sets in these popping like artificial colors and wonderfully acted by Christopher Abbott and Miyawaza Cow Ska as these two to basically psychopaths who cross paths with each other unexpectedly and it's almost like a romantic comedy about people who want to murder each other other sounds great. It is great I think it is great preserver. Abbott plays this guy who's decided he's going to become a serial killer and he makes all these meticulous plans. Zinni hires a prostitute to come to his hotel room so he can kill her and at the last minute she cancels and this other prostitutes shows up instead me Awasa CASCA and she's really into into him killing her but she kind of also wants to kill him too and so they i. It's just crazy but it's a lot of fun movie that you never really know where it's going and it's it's like eighty two minutes long but just crazy from. Can we watch this right now. I think it was. It was out on V. I mean it was a direct. Vod released on with. So I assume it certainly available able to random. Dod and it's what language it is in the language of English. I'd Yeah Christopher Abbott Housego. Both both fairly really well known English Language Actors Costco's done films in other languages. I think I don't know what films those would be. I don't either. I'm excited to watch this. It's now giant. Okay Yeah it's it's it's odd but I Yeah I thought it was a lot of fun and I'm sure it's it's gotta be streaming somewhere probably somewhere like shudder. Maybe not there but if nothing else you can rent it on all the places for like three bucks yeah you know and it sounds like you know in season one of awesome movie road today cemetery man. Yeah it's a little along those lines though. This sounds like this is one that actually reaches its potential. Instead of going off the rail. I think that it does. Yeah but it's Definitely not a movie. That was widely acclaimed. Let's put it that way. I heard a lot of praise for this one from like a lot of other movie. PODCASTS and stuff like like that but yeah I guess I never got around to watching it and I really should. You won't necessarily well. That's all right. I hope so. I look forward to hearing what you think. My number. Four four is My favorite documentary this year. And that is Bruce springsteen western stars and a there's no surprise that I'm a huge huge springsteen fan but you could dislike or not care about Bruce Springsteen at all this is a great movie This is about kind of this southern southern cal sun-drenched nineteen seventy s western style album. That he just put out and which is such a departure from his other music and I liked the album but then with this movie. You just like the album more because you're not getting. It's not a typical like behind the music. I wrote this on because of this. Like he's really going deep into like character and what it means to be these people that he's writing about and I guess you know Bruce's always wrestling with America and what is American and what we should be on. Its shot beautifully. Bruce co-directed Thom Zimny who's always directing his stuff And it was really well received which is which is good because bruce needed something a takeover as way lately right he's not just the Broadway thing and the tours and just guy. Yeah so there's underdog but I truly recommend this For any fanned end of of music documentaries. This is a great music. I completely agree the thing you said about how it makes you enjoy the album more like that was the thing that my biggest take away from it. I I listen to the album. One time throws like not as bad as all right though but with the context of the movie. I mean it's so damn good. WHO's a so in tune with delivering delivering entertainment in information to his audience? In unique ways like we decided the Broadway Day and this is like I mean you know so many of these guys like Bruce's seventy or pushing seventy is seventy now Yeah like they just kind of rely on like the greatest hits and like he's just pushing so far forward lowered. It's really fun to watch it. Like a master. Just take take him and push himself to the limit still. We should probably stop him. Because I'm sure he will continue talking about Bruce springsteen for quite a while. Yeah Yeah but I will say as someone who doesn't care about Bruce springsteen. I have been curious to watch this movie. Cool loves it with you think all right my number four war was on my list at the midway point and not because I got writer director. Sean Snyder on this show that love this movie. When I first saw to dust which was probably the most surprising movie of the year for me? I mean I did not. I don't know where this came from. Just kind of out of nowhere But it is such a funny weird dark comedy about a about this Rabbi who his wife dies and he's having trouble dealing only with the grief and so he goes to a community. College professor Thinking that he might have answers for him. That would help him to accept things on a more I I guess human level not religious level and I it just goes in such strange places. It's so just darkly funny and I loved this movie. I remember seeing the previews. What's it called to dust to dust? Yeah Yeah Yeah I liked it a lot to it was it was. I was on my top ten in the mid year point and just is below that as yeah it's really matthew. Broderick is by his best performance in. I don't even know how long as the professor selection maybe yeah honestly it might be. Yeah and it's just this like funny like Weird Buddy comedy now and it's one of the best like Jewish movies with and we talk about Uncut Jam but this movie is a very Jewish movie and really gets into a lot a lot of stuff about religion and identity. And I'd recommend it to. It's nice to see like It's not on my top ten but like it's nice to see actors like who haven't like Homerun in such a long time that relate Jennifer Lopez is great and hustlers. Yes she has nine. Yeah all right What's up next for you number three Auburn Robert? All right well. I'm finally getting into some of the widely acclaimed movies of the year. My number three is Noah Baumbach marriage story which is no surprise is that I love the Noah Baumbach movie. I am a huge huge fan of basically everything that he does And this has got to be. Maybe his most acclaimed movie ever at least since this would in the west and maybe even more so than that and so. I went in with very very high expectations and I feel like my expectations were met. It's an incredibly well acted film. Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson or both fantastic as this couple going through the process of divorce. I think it's extremely really well. Written as bombeck's films always are It's got humor to it. which some of his films can be very bleak and this movie has moments of that? But I feel feel like it's in a way one of his more optimistic films because as we go through the darkness of the divorce process and especially dealing with these shark like lawyers played by Laura Dern and Ray Liotta you come out on the end in in sort of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and and being able to See these people and the way that they can go forward in their lives in his parents and I just love the journey of that I mean the. There's a big argument. Seen that's been memed all over the Internet. That is justifiably really great. But I feel like the opening of this movie with these voiceovers of the two characters. VN's letters about each other and what they like about each other is just so beautiful and heartfelt and that's me like from the second this movie opened it was like okay. I'm I'm in it all the way so it's not a movie. That needs my endorsement but I love marriage store. Of course that scene she he does not end up reading and neither of them end up reading. The letters says well yeah and then it comes back at the end the way that does also just really beautiful. Yeah I I love this movie too. Yeah it's probably my list coming up L.. Probably you're not. You're not sure you still making your list and we talk. It'll be it'll be screaming all right well well What do you have the number? Okay number three. Let's look at the other side of romance and romantic comedy. That really works Yet another streaming movie. So this is is the year of the streamer has taken over for me. I think this is probably the first arrived more streamers on my list than theatrical releases plus one on Hulu which the young gentleman over there. Mr Josh Bell told me to watch. Yeah we watched it together or maybe just part of it because you fell asleep. I do falling asleep during movies but when you have a much your house. It doesn't matter you woke up later and finished watching plus one is awesome. Did his get yet. So good and it's it will never get a theatrical release. It did get theatrical release. It was very limited. You know what we didn't we didn't have it here but yeah so it's it's she could i. I can explain the actors are but you can just give their names since I K is et. Jack Quaid plays son and my Erskine who who is known for Eighteen Hulu show. Yeah she's great and yeah I mean so. It's like kind of this like unknown lead and minority Actress right so they're never going to that in a wide releases but it's basically these to keep their friends. They keep ending up going to the same weddings they decide. Instead of looking for each CIA for dates. They'll just be others plus one from now on and it goes. Were you think it's going to go in that..
Adam Driver Walked Out in the Middle of His Interview With Terry Gross
"Do you feel that deal it. The air has changed changed. And we're now in the middle of a magical time in history. That's right Adam. Driver has somehow become one of the most famous people alive. How do I know this because it seems like? He's at the centre of different major controversy every single week. People Love Adam driver. People Hate Adam driver. I mean folks folks. This is the time to be alive. Today's Adam driver news revolves around him walking out on Terry Gross in the middle of fresh air interview that he did to promote his movie. Marriage story daily beast. Got The exclusive on this. They described the incident as follows and I quote sources at. NPR told told the daily beast. That driver walked out of an interview earlier. This month with fresh air host Terry Gross after expressing displeasure at the idea of listening to a clip of himself. Singing being alive from the musical company drivers character sings the song late. In Noah Baumbach New Netflix film marriage story and quote. Wow okay okay. So Adam driver walked out on Terry Gross. Because he didn't want to hear himself saying I mean that's kind of relatable. He also did mention before the interview. that he it doesn't watch clips of himself. Some people are calling him a diva for doing this. A lot of people are coming to Adams defense. Low calling his walking out on the interview a mental health self preservation tactic in Adam drivers October New Yorker profile. He discusses his anxiety over watching himself perform. The New Yorker wrote wrote quote. The first time driver saw himself in girls on Dunham's laptop he was mortified. That's when I was like I can't watch myself in things. I certainly can't watch this this if we're going to continue doing it. He said many actress declined to watch themselves but for driver that reluctance amounts to a phobia and quote depending on where you stand you either. Thank Adam drivers a diva shore. Like I said or you think he's someone with really intact boundaries. WHO's protecting his phobia or you don't care at all and you probably have a a really nice chill brain? That's not constantly thinking about Adam driver personally. I don't know what side of Adam drive her story. I'm on I don't know if there's a wrong or right side I mean I don't I just don't think about it. I really have to. I have to let this marinate if you are one of the people that's reluctant to make fun of Adam driver for walking out on this interview. That's totally fair. That being said surely we can all come together and make fun of Adam driver for how he used to eat. A whole rotisserie chicken back in the middle of acting class at juilliard. Right if you're behind on your Adam driver news and didn't know eater wrote about this a few days ago saying quote on an episode of the podcast. The film re Roll Drivers Juilliard Classmates Scott Yellow recalls drivers love for Rotisserie chicken to the point where he'd eat a whole one in class eater then unquote solo. WHO said quote? He would walk around school with an entire chicken in one hand and a jug of water in the other end quote. Can you just picture that a young young Adam driver walking into a black box theater with a whole chicken and a whole jug of water. I'm personally picturing the plastic jug of water that you get at the grocery store it kind of looks like it should have milk in it but it doesn't it has water and it has like the blue plastic top and listen. It's not like acting. Classes typically have desks so I'm guessing if Adam driver related eat a whole chicken in acting class he had to have eaten it on his lap the mandated chicken on his lap. Okay and we can all agree that that's funny and worth making fun of. Isn't it beautiful. How we all just came together like that I could cry?
"noah baumbach" Discussed on The Film Buds Podcast
"From the complete works of dot up. That is the they say. Hi Henry wondering if you cut Scarlett Johansson wearing a ramones t shirt in marriage story. Do you buy it and my response was and I quote my response question mark. I'm out goodbye. I'm done now zero stars. Nah I'm kidding. I did say that. I don't buy it for a second. But she listens Scar Gel the character she has Angel Olsen fangled written all over her. I really like Hey I do too. Oh nothing against Adelson. She's great but I'm saying no I know I bet you. Anything Noah Baumbach listens to the ramones Scarlett Johansson Danson's character and Nicole. I don't buy it for a second I also I very much agree. I said this doesn't come across nichols she. He blew it talk. Hey I will say Nicole does come across as a fake ramones fan so perhaps it was intentional. She had a whole life. She never she wanted to you. Could Noah Baumbach of listen to the show. I mean his way over the top I want put a pass to think about that. Yeah you know desperation well desperation to be noticed you know as is a seen as a ramones fan part of the punk scene. Because she was she was perhaps I defer that'd be that's that's reaching but it's possible you. Oh Hey but hey thanks for the email. Those Nice of you was nice. You the complete works of ABC's well I'll say this. I think this is by far one of my favorites of the year. It's it could be almost my favorite. Yeah I was actually four. We were I started. The show is about an hour and a half in rewatching it. Yeah so I I I thought it was like I said so. Beautifully written more more so in terms of the dynamics like I think as you were saying the back and forth like the nuance of the kind of awkward hesitation of Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson caring about each other knowing that but then at the same time being in the divorce like the one seen the comes to mind the haircuts scene where she offers to give him a haircut and then also during the one of the meetings with the lawyer where he can't figure out what to order order food for them stuff like that is so touching and and really good and all of that worked so well and similar to how the it's it's revolving around theater it did have this on the fly like theatrical field where characters bouncing in and out of the rooms and And I thought all that was worked so well and very seamless and Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson were perfect together very good. Yeah I think that I think by far the best seen in terms of performance is like this Stu yes great to. She's great. I forgot to find out that the waiver now I feel dare to a probably is Jacob. Tremblay yeah I think. The best scene in the movie in terms of performance is the the argument in the Motel Room. I guess it's a motel room or is a apartment apartments apartment apartment. I guess the long one the really long everyone feels that way which did over fifty takes really. Well that's all one like they wouldn't so that our whole fifty over fifty times to two days to shoot so today's Oh my God that's a lot of that's a lot of emotional drain. Yeah that's a lot of acting. Well I think even if it's something everyone is saying. That scene is incredible both in terms of the writing and the performance advisor version. It was very good. Yeah yeah totally and I think that it does. In Noah Noah Baumbach fashion it does have these off beat like dry dark humor injected into it throughout which I think makes it entertaining and I got the the realism related related ability to it. That you maybe didn't get as much. I thought it felt very authentic in in many ways and so I thought all that worked it is okay. Nice yeah I don't know what they're also Alan Alda was in it. I don't think we we said that. Oh yeah well I yeah. I I think that the dynamics in how there's there's this battling of or handling of sympathy for each character how it will go back and forth like how one character will be Thinking that the other is handling the situation just as as they are but then they'll find out in the next scene that they're actually going for way more than what they promised them and so I think that that works so well in terms of creating this hard hard to balance sympathy for each character. And how you feel about them and which is very true to exactly the full I'm totally yeah And then also with the lawyers. I thought that that giant thous really impressive. Yeah in the scene where they She orders food for Adam driver. There's this back and forth of Laura dern talking like as a lawyer to Adam driver saying we're gonNA like penny to the wall here in terms of what we're going to get from the divorce but then the next exceed their ordering lunch like that. I thought it was basic Mo a thousand basic AF are like is like is like is like like being out the window in the car is like I've seen him which I mean. I don't disagree with that but I think it's more so just how it was directed. That's that was my my takeaway. It's it's been done but I think he did it really well. And he's come in loving fair enough. I Asadullah how realistic that is. Honestly I don't know wafted get some Divorce lawyers one just like low personal thing. I loved the invisible man. Cost you no good. That's like one of my favorite my favorite favorite classic Monster Film and so and his his performance has the invisible man in that scene is amazing and so stuff like that little details. I I loved. It is interesting as well like I don't know like I really really really didn't drivers character. Like oh he's a he's an asshole pressure off like the whole time. Yeah okay I know of that was just enough. That was personal is Dick for sure. Yeah I I I. I think they did a good job of kind of making you try and care for both but Scarlett Johansson was typically more in the the right so to speak. It was a clear ascent and it's Open Adam drivers. He's at the whole thing with the Halloween costume. Piss me the F. O.. Also when he was like you it's like you gotta wear the Spring and Psych us. Yeah unless Boya. Uh if it's a cost spoiler no no I'm deteriorate Kubis let it is is so I mean like we said is written so excellently Who just miserable sums up for me? I can't tell yeah exactly but Scarlett Johansson honestly as well the dam from the other day the other day. That's what it was I would love a TV. Show Butts. It's God Johansen or sister Give me that. They'll popping abdrabboh popping every now and then Goodbye but I think one Bit of I guess both performance and the the direction but the scene where I think it's more so in the middle of the movie where Adam driver comes to drop off Henry the child for Halloween two people a and the as what you were saying. Where thank you so much? Where the and how the dynamics change so quickly and how natural that feels feels where she slams the door walking away? I loved that how that played off is so good and feels really natural. Like you could totally see someone doing that. I have many. Oh Oh me too and it. Yeah I think every everybody really somehow either just working with Noah Baumbach or the overall collaboration got that tone down perfectly and so I I really. I was not expecting to love it as much as I do. 'cause I don't love Noah Baumbach in general but this I think this is by far his best and my my favorite favorite of his my personal favorite. I mean I I liked Meyrowitz stories. I liked What else has he done? Yeah I don't I bet love squid and the whale as GonNa GonNa say the one with the whale. I didn't love that one however I stole also watch what he makes. Even if I don't like it I'll still watch it. I'd I'd like him to get out of his head a little bit. Yeah Hey oh he did Francis Hough I. I like Francis I I know some people don't like the the the Greg Meister and that's not a great. We're not going to stick with that one. Yeah now like I said just he just you. The more time he spends with with a you know gritter my Lord and Saviour The more time more of her fairy dust may rub off on him and and the good writer but he also I think. Yeah he's GonNa get Outta. I think that that that final moment of the movie is also really doesn't encapsulate that bittersweet nature in terms of how they depart from one. Another is a really good final little touch and as you're saying I thought it looked very good. I agree it. Looks like all of his other movies usually but I didn't really. I thought it looked really good so I didn't really have an issue with that and just compositions. That looked very good. Yeah you always has interests like Oh. He's a very architectural director. Yeah yeah now I remember I the actual visual distance between them at times when when they're in the his apartment towards the end of the movie before the big fight there on truly on opposite sides of the room. And there's that wide shot and so while well it's you could call it. Basic guess thought that with how the movies don it worked really well and when they're in the subway there's that still I think is in has been been released where there are sitting on opposite sides. Subway stuff like that is very subtle and and works to really just feed that gap gap between them so babysitter was effing weird. Yeah why would you felt dope. Oh yeah that is weird. I didn't like the baby. I did it active day that I. I didn't notice that the first time when I was watching it I did notice the belt buckle thing. That was weird I will say if anybody knows. Yeah very.
"noah baumbach" Discussed on KCRW
"Info and raise a child dot over you just heard from a Democrat on the house Judiciary Committee about the decision to move ahead with articles of impeachment against president trump coming up the top Republican on the panel weighs in on the process which he says has been unfair to the president then later today at two thirty here on KCRW Elvis Mitchell today in the treatment by director Noah Baumbach on the title of his new film the marriage story yeah I I sort of it was kind of operating on is a floss reading might be hiding her but it I might be wrong but to as sort of notion that when something that you for frequent that DHEA is is ordinary in your life breaks down like a door that you go through every day doesn't open your your car breaks down you suddenly look at it in a way that you don't normally look at it you wouldn't you it's clear to you it's like more self evident and I thought well in the sense that could be true here if like in in telling the story of a divorce that the marriage in some ways almost becomes clearer but I felt though alternately from a dramatic standpoint I could more clearly tell the story of a marriage this way that's right you directed to a bomb back on his new film a marriage story for the treatment today at two thirty PM on KCRW the Friday morning commute getting off to a bumpy start through downtown Los Angeles have a rack northbound one ten at the one oh one and it looks like that is already slowing things down on that north on one ten as you're headed up from USC meanwhile Sigler continues in Orange County south on fifty seven I could tell only the right lane open they're hoping to have that wrapped up by six o'clock in east LA a heads up north five in Indiana got a stall the could be taking apart the right.
Netflix's Reed Hastings says what he really thinks
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Bellany of the Hollywood reporter and Matt You know I. I have talked in the past on the breakdown. I think in on the business about watching Netflix the original streaming service move glacial early towards towards grasping the Hollywood way of doing things you know. They come in the disrupters their digital disruptors where they're not going to do we're going to do things a new way A. and then they figure out maybe there's a reason for certain Hollywood rules but this and Netflix was doing if bought a theater because it knows artists want movies and theaters. I mean it. It tries a limited theatrical. Run for the movies that it wants awards for little by little they've been they've done things to accommodate talent however reed hastings the CEO. Oh of Netflix. He gave a talk this week at the New York Times deal book conference and I feel like he just went through one thing after another which basically was what we're digital digital disruptors and we don't care you know whatever the Progressive Hollywood community wants we don't care in. The first headline grabber was he was talking about the the fact that Netflix had polled. Hold an episode of Care of Hassan nauseous Patriot Act in Saudi Arabia because it was critical of The crown prince who may actually have caused a journalist Washington Washington Post journalist to be murdered. They pulled that episode that was critical of the Saudi prince. And I'm quoting Reed Hastings of Netflix. He said we're not in the truth to power or business we're in the entertainment business. Now that is a statement of fact but that's not the kind of thing that we know especially with south park standing up to China it. It just doesn't go over well. No and if I'm Ted Sarande does or Cindy Holland or Scots Dubar. Any of these Hollywood focused executives for Netflix. Who are desperately aspirin? Trying to court the creative community twenty four hours a day and I see reed hastings kinds of comments. I cringe because that's not the message. They are putting forth to the creative community. They are saying we embrace you. We embrace freedom. We give you the tools you need to say what you WANNA say. And when Reed Hastings is making these comments it's like that and also defending this plan that they have to possibly speed up or offer a sped up speed for people to watch content on netflix which creators there's will hate because it alters. What their work is that kind of thing is perhaps better from a technological and digital and audience perspective? You've but not something that the creative team at Netflix wants to sell to their. Yeah he turned around two seconds later and said we do care about creators and creative a creative intentions but we also care about consumers undercutting the first part of the statement saying that any noted VCR's could speed things up but for but this is already Outraged filmmaker like jet APO. Who have been you know just indignantly talking about just how this is an affront to them as as filmmakers yes and certainly he's not the only one and then he read these things was not done yet he He talked about the fact that you know people feel. That theaters are risk because of the netflix model which is not allowing that normal theatrical window for movies and he said if if theaters WanNa carry net flicks films once they are net flicks because people want the group experience. That's great which is obviously ridiculous because people are not going to necessarily I mean maybe a few but generally speaking taking. That's not how it works in the movie business. No and it's also countered to the Netflix narrative that they are putting out there right now. which is that for a certain type of film namely awards films? They are going to do an exclusive run in theaters. Like they're doing right now for Martin. Scorsese's the Irishman and Noah Baumbach marriage story in a couple of others. And then you've got things saying well. We don't actually care about that. We I'm paraphrasing. We you know we want our. We want our movies to be on Netflix theaters. WanNa WanNa play them great yeah eventual went after we're done and after you could see it for you know your Netflix subscription. You can go ahead and pay it in the theater so that was three comments. That I'm sure did not sit well Maybe somebody needs to get the memo to read Hastings. Thank you matt thank you.
Adam Driver, 'Marriage Story'
"I learned to be comfortable in it just because it was unfamiliar to me when we started force awakens and not so much in how we were working on it but the scale and size of it. I'd never works on the just getting used to rhythm of a set being so long before we you know there's so many special effects and so many people on set I was used to just smaller groups the people in small rooms with like borrowed costumes. So I mean that's been but just like a smaller smaller people around and suddenly the set in itself is a huge theater for like one hundred people. I took me a while to get used to that. The rhythm in what like the technical part of the you know the CGI th the effects into me a while to get used to but because it was jj and because it was Ryan working on it apart from our costumes being dramatically different than anything. I'd worked before they made it feel like small independent movies. And that I had a preconceived idea that you know you were going to lose those conversations about the humanity and sake of the spectacle of it but B I J J. You don't lose any of that. The first conversations that we have were about the humanity of that character. How do we make that person? Not Two dimensional but someone you can watch breathing unscreened and and so. We didn't in that sense. It didn't feel that that-that markedly different. Did you take anything anything of Kylo. Yeah all sorts of stuff. I have a whole costume. Yeah they know you took it. Yeah Yeah Okay so this is not really taking anything I have two helmets. Have Light Sabers. I have all sorts of stuff. I don't want to do with the costume because right now it's just in a a box but I'm trying to be weird to see you at home. Basically with all right. Here's everyone war museum to me this week. So great and we'll just have this together could do that. All right a sanctuary you've got to-do anybody who comes and visits knows that star wars in terms of you looking at you do you watch yourself no. You don't do it. No I've seen things things like I watch star wars Somehow once but apart from tied down and forced to look at yourself yeah yeah yeah me and no one. I are having a debate about marriage story. You know It's hard to to watch myself for for lots of different reasons. You know you just critical of yourself self. Well it's that and also to kind of really absorb what's happening. You KINDA gotTa Watch it like three or four times to to practice. Not You know not thinking about you doing it and watch it four times. You can't do that and also I feel it just leads you to trying to well not only being self conscious but I kinda like orchestrating it onset so I went on the unaware and being unaware of. We're a camera is or you. You know what you're doing or how you look. I think sometimes we don't have that in life so no you don't have it so I don't want to. I'm not so curious I'm trying to make it look better her. You know unless you kind of have to the thing kind of requires visual well over most of the time. If it's a movie you can do that on the stage you could play Pale tonight and knowing what's going on internally and not really necessarily seeing what the outside is who do you trust you trust your wife. is she a good critic of you did she say she's a great great critic. is she kind or just ruthless. No she's ruthless. In a way that is Is Thoughtful not. I just like you know you suck. Let's let's let's split up but like yeah that would be that would be. I can't stay married to you. Know She's just this she's honest about it as is really good at articulating The good and bad in a way that you I kind of need in life I want. I don't want people around me telling May I also don't want a lot of people telling me what's wrong with it so you try to pick like one or two people that you trust their opinion and they say oh. Yeah that thing so you. You have a problem with. I can see but it doesn't register or or the opposite the thing that you think. It's working truly sucks. Isn't it also almost as bad when when the to me. It's all deserve what's happening to you. I'm really happy for you. Know that it is and you should trust it but I think any actor is a little bit. You know suspicious of this constant praise or you're going to win the Oscar for this sort of like you were nominated for Black Klansman and you get into that race. Do you try. I keep that out of your head. You have totally. I know. It's I think it's really I've been lucky and having people around me who are I mean like you know I'm I'm around my wife my family. They're very quick to tell me all the mistakes that you make and I don't I don't give that much. It's all good. Good all when you do win the Oscar for this which I think you should you should say how did this come from. Nobody around me. Even thinks I'm I'm good in so anyway. Congratulations on all of this. And again we come to the end of the show as we did the last where when I asked you to sing just a little moment I was having a good time. I'm not a singer right. And then Dan people go to marriage story and watch him do like a Sun High Aria being alive. I sat there watching. That was the only time it took me out of the movie. The Bachelor told me he can't sing anything and he does. Maybe the toughest eleven o'clock number number as they call them in Broadway history. How did you steal yourself or that moment? How come you didn't say to Noah Baumbach I can't it was different when you're like you know sing? Sing Sing Jingle Bells as you as opposed to sing a jingle bells okay. Don't you remember the song he did sing for me. No twinkle twinkle little. So I'm just asking uh-huh from Monaco Mall Man. Come on look at this fearless actor. No no no character and that's easier place. I don't know how Kylo Ren be. Would he actually listen to the Henry. The fifth singing twinkle. Drink a little stuff. No Ma'am Damn. I can't do twinkle twinkle. I won't do a little bit of something different. That's their that's being alive quite yet. It's panic time now. All the the world of a song relates to travel but I I don't have to sing the whole. Aw on my bags are packed. I'm ready to go. This is terrible. I'm standing here outside your door. And that's it the way I You're not leaving. I hate to wake you up to say goodbye so kiss me and smile for me talk. Tell me that you wait for me. Holy go on. I'm leaving now doubt. I trust me when you see marriage story. You'll hear what he he could do. Aren't you now going with less Carranza and making a shooting stick. You can't touch it like a nightmare. It's a nightmare so so much fun on that set. Yeah no it's not follow. Thank you actually is credible Komo news ago but it's like opera so we're doing this just a man but I to me. You could get away
Noah Baumbach Digs Into A 'Marriage Story'
"It's the opening scene in the film ahead of a screening of marriage story at the telluride film festival this year and in front of a live audience. I spoke with driver. Just after Martin Scorsese presented him with a career. Honor driver was at telluride for marriage story and another upcoming movie the report in which he plays a US Senate investigator looking into this as use of torture after nine. Eleven driver explain what his relationships are like with directors. He's worked with multiple times and that list includes Jim Jarmusch and marriage story. Filmmaker Noah Baumbach. There's there's something that we are way of working. Our work ethic is similar in that. They don't take it for granted that we're making a movie. The has the potential to reach a plays that as far away and either give language to a culture. That's completely different than ours. And someone's paying a lot of money for us to be here right right now for this amount of time to do this thing that will last forever and labeled the feeling and how powerful that is why why take that for granted why show up and kind of wing it you know or not. Consider what it is. You're saying and that no detail is too who small now. Obviously there's traps and all of that that you can get so worked up in details that you're trying to control everything and don't leave room for you know something. That's more abstract with those people. They're brilliant writers and create a set an environment onset where you're free to You know all those things that hope from from people you're free to get it wrong and you're free to explore and but really don't take it for granted if I was trying to summarize summarize it which is kind of hard. They very much curated the people that they want to work with in front and behind the camera and you feel like as much as everything thing is both has meaning and as meaningless. You don't don't take it for granted and finding people that have your same work ethic gets a rare thing. I think I just repeated myself three times the best show of hands. How many people in telluride for the atom driver double feature marriage story and the report? Wow okay. That's about half a house as quick question without spoiling either film. I WanNa ask you about Dan. Jones and CIA's post nine eleven detention and interrogation program which a lot of people would call torture. They call it extreme rendition of the things. What would you say about that film going into it without giving it away about why? That movie spoke. Oh Q.. And why you thought it was something you wanted to do. I mean the topic is was something that I you know embarrassing. They didn't know anything about and I mean the original report is over six thousand thousand pages. The redacted version is just over five hundred and our script with one hundred thirty. How do you how do you tell that story as economically as possible astle but not without leaving the humanity out of it so that all of those things just an opportunity to potentially bring a topic to light that has been in the dark and that I was inspired by you? Hope there's people like that in a room alone toiling away for six years with no support trying to trying to make a difference and that relationship with something that you've grown up with thinking that you can trust and suddenly you know you have to not only do you feel like you're trying to make a moral judgment for the country but internally as well they all those the reasons why I want to do it you were recently doing. Burn this and I'm wondering when you're doing it play and then going. Lean into film or television. What are the things that you might miss retain as an actor? WHO's doing a show in front of a different audience every night when you're not able oh to replicate that on a film set yeah? It's a totally different thing. It's I working with Mila. For example he likes to do a lot of takes and that actually feels more familiar to working on out of play because the lines of the lines. There's no there's no Improv. This is what it is blocking it out. But the intention can be a million different things and he he structured the day smartly so we have enough time to explore all the possibilities of what it could be not just arbitrarily but I mean sometimes and and then sometimes you have to rebel against him and then just do it the way you WanNa do it just to shock yourself and shock the system and then maybe come up with something better but you know it's like a whole run of a rehearsal truncated into a day. which is I rare with? Someone like Noah and you're also rehearsing you know if you can be as much as you can before you start just being prepared to give yourself time to explore all the options and when you don't do that with a soderbergh then I tend to have regret of like you can't help but go home and imagine I had all these ideas that now but then again. Maybe those were bad ideas that I don't know oh anything. The tribute is a sham. Last question I think there are a lot of things that different people will take away from marriage story one being. If you're thinking about going into family law you might reconsider it. But what was the thing that you treasure about making this film with knowing scarlet again. That could be a long answer that I know I should keep short. I mean this movie is hard to. I feel hard to talk about because it's very personal and it was personal. The people who made a collectively and we talked about it a couple of years before we started making those conversations tens of what it's about or what will retry into are still happening but how love can transition and how that can be violent set not not physically violent but an internal violent thing of you know someone kinetically where you know. It's everything your way. Oh you were in a room together a second nature then suddenly to divorce that from yourself That could be painful but maybe it's just transitioning into something different. I thought that was a beautiful idea. This is not a sham. Adam coming up on the frame the writer and director of marriage story Noah Baumbach on capturing the heartbreak of divorce Welcome back to the frame. I'm John Horn. Our next guest is filmmaker Noah Bam back he wrote and directed indie darlings like Margot at the wedding and the squid and the okay all his stories often feature realistic and flawed characters and it holds true for his latest film marriage. Story Charlie and Nicole played by Adam driver ever and Scarlett Johansson are a couple struggling with the early stages of their divorce bombeck painstakingly mapped out the process of their separation. And that makes watching watching marriage story. especially if you're married a bit like watching a horror film. Here's how bombeck described the movie when we recently spoke at the Middleburg Film Festival. I've a friend who said the movie gets divorced so you don't have to which I think is a nice message from married couples relatively Glib but I can see it Netflix has another movie. That's planet Middleburg called two popes. Your movie is called Marriage Story. They both seem like obvious. Titles but almost inevitable bowl. Did you play around with other things to call this. I didn't coordinate with Fernando Morass. I I It was it was the working title from the beginning. The the idea that I'd come up with something else but like pseudo you know Phil Collins but something about the movie resisted more more specific or poetic titles things like the squid and the whale. Didn't there was no squid in the whale to be found and so I I kept coming back to it. I liked it as its in. Its simplicity. I want to ask you a little bit. Because Adam drivers said that this was a collaborative process and hobbies. You're the writer the director. But how would you describe the process of putting the story together and before we started filming what you were talking to due. At least you're actors about it from the onset. It was important for me to know who the actors who are some of the actors were in the movie. I wanted To Have Charleena Nicole in my head is inspiration but also because I wanted to bring the actors in to the process a bit I Adam. I've I've been friends with now. When so when I brought him sort of some of these ideas he would say like? Oh these are things I might. He he was interested in playing a theater director. That's you know as I remember it. That's how that came into the movie. You have often had characters who you are very articulate. That could be writers. They could be theater directors that could be. They are very capable expressing themselves and talking about. Maybe maybe what they're feeling or what they're feeling about somebody else. Is that something that you think is a pattern. That you like articulate characters who happen to have particular jobs does one beget the other. I don't know I I don't think about it like that. Quite the artistic the fact that they were artists and and creative and professional partners in this movie was I thought important and also narrative interesting because there was sort of more at stake.
Gotham Awards: 'Marriage Story,' 'The Farewell,' 'Uncut Gems' Lead Nominations
"Okay Amanda the Gotham awards what do you know about the Gospel awards they are New York based yes is Gotham is a stand in for New York and uh-huh well done thank you and they are an indie film awards and they always have the ceremony pretty early in the season and their speed teaches are often really vibrant and kind of make some noise that people are usually recapping them are doing videos of the acceptance speeches that's right the nominations are usually driven by journalists and critics whereas the awards themselves are usually chosen by people in the New York Film Community this year's collection of films is sure thing and I think it highlights the New York versus La Aspect of this award show I would say that this is a very good collection of films but not terribly represented of of where Oscar is going to be going this year so let's just mentioned a couple of the categories we can talk about what we see and if any of this really ultimately matters to the big race that we talk about on the show all the time so for best feature Lulu longs farewell The safdie brothers uncut gems trae rituals waves Noah Baumbach marriage story and Lawrence Ghaffari as hustlers now as a human man these are five of my favorite movies of the year you truly love to see you love to see it now Ah I think this list has been somewhat criticized for being the eight twenty four awards share and also Noah Baumbach a former eight hundred four filmmaker himself so there's a lot of lineage there but I don't necessarily I mean I think marriage story is pretty much a lock for best picture and you've got a chance to see it over the weekend so that we may be we can t some of that conversation talk about it but yes these other films I think the farewells probably the one that has been tabbed to have the best chance at best picture but do you see a world in which I guess these early awards shows do more than just you know sort of celebrate the films that we expect to not be recognized come Globes and an Oscar season or or do you think that this is just a forebear to what's coming I think this is probably people sharing their passions for the most part and doesn't shift a lot the only notable storyline in the future category for me as Hustler's being here because that means that people really are taking it seriously as a a capital f film in addition to a great kind unexpected box office hit featuring Jennifer Lopez sue and we talked about that a little bit of the time of Jennifer Lopez seems like an Oscar contender people take it seriously it seemed like the answer to that is yes in some ways yes but on the other hand Jennifer Lopez not nominated for Gotham you know just kind of fascinating what are you going to do with you ran does in the film community I don't know it is people expressing themselves yeah I mean there's a lot of very admirable choices kind of up and down we don't have to run through every single category here I think one thing I like about the Gotham is is that it does a lot of awards that I really wish the Oscars would do for example they have the Bingham Ray breakthrough director award and the nominees here are kind of interesting collection of people couple of films I haven't even seen Lord Clermont on Air am I pronouncing that correctly thank you can Jones's here we had him on the show earlier this year Joe Talbot from the last Bachman in San Francisco also on the show Olivia Wilde this year for book smart and films for burning came which is a film I haven't even seen yet which is yeah been released so that this is sort of like in the spirit of the indie spirits meets the Oscars meets the New York film critics are I tend to think of this award show and I think the award selves our health quite early at the end of this year as opposed to early next year and you'll be able to stream them live on the Internet and you'll get to see some of those acceptance speeches that talking about but it does feel a little bit of a lucky to be here kind of award Andre Holland you're nominated for high flying bird and be pretty surprised Andre Holmes nominated for best actor Best Actress Likewise Mary Kay Place for Diana Elisabeth Moss for her smell these are performances that will be on craigslist MHM maybe on your lists I haven't seen her smile yet I need to do that I will do that before the end of the year I'm saying it in public so that will actually happen and probably how do you feel about being in this moment this period of award season where we're like right at the were at the gates worth the Don excited I think you and I kind of went through a marathon in the last week and so we have seen most everything which is great there are a few outstanding films talk about and there are a few on my list that I haven't seen because they were at festivals and haven't really been screening for critics yet but we've seen a majority of things and I definitely just had a week where I just saw elise and I was like wow cinema I was very moved by a lot of films that I saw and so in that sense I feel hopeful and excited and you're like movies are great we have all the movies and then I started trying to make my Oscar predictions and started thinking about all of the politics and like reading from what Academy voters I had to say and it creeping sense of dread also and anger and resentment started creeping in so I would say it's a complex emotional time for me personally how are you feeling I have the same exact feeling as you and it's for that reason that we have decided at the back half of this show to make predictions make bold reckless quite likely very stupid predict predictions because as you said we've seen almost everything last week you and I got a chance to see the Irishman let me just tell you the Irishman is good. You should see the Irishman you had a chance to see marriage three yes we had a chance to see knives out which I don't think we'll be a part of the awards conversation but which was fantastic it lived up to my hopes and dreams have been screaming about it on a podcast for two months so those to receive we see something else we saw little women little women of course of course little women so all of these movies have now been put in front of us let here's here's a very short list of the movies that neither of us have seen thus more because we've done a pretty good job of doing our homework to this moment but so far we still haven't seen nineteen seventeen seventy four one film we haven't ritual Clint Eastwood's portrait of the man who was accused of the Atlanta Olympics bombing we haven't seen cats it's fine that you put this on this sliced by Mattia cats cats come in cat season is nearly upon us we haven't seen dark waters which I think is going to start screening this week we've not seen star wars episode nine the rise of Skywalker uh-huh I did read a bit of box office prognostication about episode nine today it was kind of kind of kind of grim interesting it was like this will is on track to be the lowest grossing of the sued thus far on its opening weekend maybe it's because everybody knows what's GonNa Happen I read some fan fiction or not some fan fiction no like can we just used to lead them into it yeah I read some fan fiction you know what I read some predictions based on nothing speculation is what I read about Star Wars that was essentially conviction and I got really upset about it I told you about this already we had this conversation with no let's not do that yeah but I don't know it people I it seems like people are interested in what happens I'm interested in what happens was the was it that ray is a rookie was it no it's Ray in Cairo and fuck just like the weight again pure speculation but let me go on record saying I do not want this as the really casual star wars fan who does can't remember the title of Episode Nine Not for me it's not what you want the only other movie I can think of that we haven't seen that is going to be competing this year barring maybe you're frozen to in the atom akara categories clemency which is Alfred movie that premiered at Sundance and has gotten reviews and I it was pointed out to me that there to death row movies this year with just mercy and clemency which is kind of interesting but that's only six movies between the two of US we've done a nice job hopefully we'll have a peaceful December probably not as we go through all of our takes which of these sixty think is most likely to to mess up the the narrative is we're going to break down later in the show I have on the document that I made I have one thousand nine hundred seventeen written several different times with like twenty question marks it was I just I don't know what to do with it. It is obviously a world war one epic with really athletic filmmaker gang directed by Salmon News which is Oscar Bait shot by Roger Deakins which is how you know it really is and they haven't they're releasing the behind the scenes rich of him just like running and trenches they're really leaning into we worked really hard to make us you know and it's a very showy style of directing yes their narrative is the effort yes which is an interesting thing we hear a different version of that with someone like Joaquin Phoenix and his performance in the joker we heard all about how he lost fifty pounds and he contorted his body and he I mean this physical transformation this is the full-scale movie version right of what sacrifices were made to achieve something yes and it's so funny because the the movie is not out for still another three months but I think that's really smart and the reason I have twenty question marks is because is it too late in the Oscar season to kind of really breakthrough because the people haven't seen it and the Oscars season is like a full months earlier this year and then was your so we're in a really crunched situation I think we have learned time and time again that it is harder the later you get in the season more crowded it is it's harder to get people invested in your movie you've just created a wonderful segue for our next segment let's go to stock stock down if it goes bust you can make ten to one twenty
Why 'The Irishman' May Not Be Coming to a Theater Near You
"I'm kim masters and this is the hollywood breakdown joining me as melanie of the hollywood reporter and matt net flicks is going for the gold you know they. They got very very close to a best picture. They certainly got the nomination. They didn't get the win last year with roma now. They have a crazy number of movies that they are pushing into the award season. <hes> i think probably the highest profile is martin scorsese's. The irishman an a an outlandishly expensive film about one hundred and sixty million paramount wouldn't do it. <hes> but netflix would now what you're seeing. Is this this drama. Of what kind of release will this movie get and it's almost like the film world is saying hey. This is martin scorsese movie. It has to be in theaters. I accept that's not really an option well. It isn't a small sense. I mean this is becoming an annual debate with netflix where everyone takes note of these high high profile projects that they pick up and then the question becomes well. Wait a second. This is the kind of movie that a lot of people wanna see in theater and the filmmakers certainly wants to see it in a theater later. So what are you gonna do about it and netflix is in this really really tough position. They would love to show these movies for a small amount of time in theaters nationwide worldwide worldwide but they go out and do the road show they try to convince these big theater chains to play the movie and again this year that theater chain said oh. It's going to be out on netflix in a couple of weeks. No we're not gonna play this movie so what you have here is. This is going to release about ten films this fall in theaters but they're forced. I only show them in small independent theater chains new york los angeles some other big cities and for about three four weeks in some cases before they go on the service. We know that steven spielberg for example had some feelings that he sort of expressed last year with roma saying if it's not on screens it's it's a t._v. It's a it's a t._v. Movie it's not a movie movie and then there was a lot of blowback about that and people thought it was exclusionary of young talent. That doesn't necessarily have the power command that kind of release. There was a lot of debate but i imagine if i were steven spielberg i'd be sort of smiling and nodding to myself because i think unless netflix can breakthrough and snag an actual best picture award or some serious batch of major awards at the oscars. I dunno if i'm in a list director to who thinks that i have the power you know to demand a wide release. I'm going to be looking at my options and i'm gonna wanna go to someone who has the ability to say yes. We'll let this play really wide in theaters and because that is the you know it's the holy grail for filmmakers. One thing is clear here and that's that netflix is not going away. I mean they they are coming back. This season even stronger than last season where roma while a great film was a niche play. It was a tough sit as they say you had to really. They get into the the art films of all black and white. It was a period piece. It was different language all of those things yes made it a huge challenge and that's very different from a martin scorsese says he film which has gangsters violence and stylish scenes and everything like that you know they've also got this noah baumbach film with scarlett johansson and adam driver ever to stars of marvel and star wars franchises that are going to be in a film that i think a lot of people are going to want to see and eric story is the name of the film just to fill that in and it's supposed to be getting way out of venice which has just started exactly and i think that the more every season netflix learns a little bit about how to release these films and even if they can't get at that big wide scale theatrical release. They're doing everything else possible to court these filmmakers. They have a sixty person award staff. The people working at netflix dedicated to winning awards. They have no expense spared campaigns. They were they host events. They run <unk> advertising. They pull out all the stops and these are the kinds of things that filmmakers take notice because they say what are you doing for my movie. Well and the other advantage that netflix has of courses at the studios are getting out of this kind of business so we'll see what happens. That's matt bellamy editorial director of the hollywood
Roma debate involves some hard truths
"Took home three Oscars, but it didn't win the trophy for best picture, and it sure sparked a big debate this award season. The Netflix film directed by Alphonso Cuaron was not embraced by theater owners as well as some academy voters because it landed on the streaming site right around the same time. It was offered to exhibitors it's called a day and date release. Typically theater owners want exclusive rights to a movie for several months before it starts appearing on streaming platforms and on DVD. But now Netflix might be thinking about going back to that traditional release pattern. I spoke with the Hollywood reporter senior film editor Rebecca Keegan about an upcoming net. Flix film directed by Martin Scorsese. The movie is called the Irishman. And she started with what Netflix learned from Roma. Flicks had held fast to this day and date release strategy until this past award season when they. They introduced a very small theatrical window a three week window for Roma in one week windows for a couple of other films. That is not a big enough window that it won them any fans among theater owners who still really see the company has kind of public enemy number one. As do many traditional lists in the business who who feel that the obstacle exhibition is a big part of what makes something a movie. So there are a couple things now that are at stake. There is the question of what filmmakers and filmmakers like Martin Scorsese want in terms of how their films are exhibited. And then there's the whole question of whether or not Netflix failure to be able to release Roma in a material way in theaters hurt its Academy Award chances for best picture. Well, it varies with the filmmaker. Of course. But when you're talking about a director like Martin Scorsese who is ultimately such a traditionalist. You know, he's still shoots movies on film. He is a lover of classic film square. Sese? He feels very strongly that he likes his movies to be seen in a movie theater. And so with filmmaker like this, it's very very important. It was also important to help Alfonso Koran even after he'd won his three Oscars. He talked about the importance of the theatrical exhibition experience, so most of these sort of top tier filmmakers want their movies in theaters, and you have reported as have some other people that the fact that Roma did not have a real theatrical release might have actually irked some Oscar voters, and they penalize the movie by not voting for it for best picture to have that. Right. That's right. I mean, some of the academy members ice spoke to said they deliberately put Roma last on their preferential ballot for best picture because they wanna penalize the business model by which Roma was released. Now, you can sort of take issue with that. But for some of these people, they see Netflix has really an existential. Get and it's not just theater owners. That are a little bit uncomfortable with the Netflix model their people like Steven Spielberg who had an opinion about it. What is Spielberg pushing for? We'll spill Berg has historically objected to net. Flicks. He says that they're movies should win Emmys that they're basically made for television movies. He's now behind the scenes pushing for a rule change at the academy that would require a theatrical release of a certain window four weeks is what I'm hearing from my sources in order for movie to be eligible for an Oscar those currently a rule that was passed in twenty twelve the doesn't require any kind of exclusive theatrical release at all. So the Irishman is obviously a big bet that Netflix has made with Martin Scorsese, but it's not the only name brand filmmaker that they're in business with other other movies where they might be looking at some sort of the ethical release before a movie appears on the streaming service. Yeah, Netflix has a lot of very promise. Saying awards movies in the works. They've got an untitled movie from Noah baumbach movies from a D Reese, Steven Soderbergh. David michaud. I mean, these are filmmakers who have had a lot of awards recognition in the past. And I would expect their movies to be of a particular quality where if Netflix wants to be in the awards game. They will do some version of what they did for Rome. What which is to give a movie a theatrical release of some type. So it's one thing for Netflix to say, we wanna do a theatrical release. It's another thing for Martin Scorsese to say, I want my film to have a theatrical release. What are the theater owners saying because ultimately they get to decide what movies are and are not exhibited in their chains. That's right. And the chains have a lot of power for a release of the type that I am hearing Martin Scorsese wants for the Irishman. You need the chains to buy an AMC regal and the others the chains. Want a couple of things they want Netflix too. Have a much bigger theatrical window than it did with Roma. They also were saying that they will report box office to calm score. Which is the company that we all get our box office information from one of the things that was controversial about the way Netflix handled Romo was that. It did not report box office. And it did not allow the theaters where it was playing to report box office AMC and regal say we don't play that way. If you're showing in our theaters we're going to report box office. And I don't know if it's an insult to people who drink or people who sale, but Netflix has been spending money like drunken, sailors. Is there anything that would prevent them from buying theater chain and just doing a work around where they have their own theaters. And don't have to worry about exhibitors. There was a period where net looks was said to be looking at landmark but last December that chain sold to the Cohen media group. But certainly Netflix has a history of buying what it wants if you look just at the billboards that it bought and you. Used heavily to promote Roma net. Flicks is happy to write a check to solve a problem. Netflix does not only spent a lot of money making the Irishman. But also bought a very prominent ad in the middle of the Academy Awards broadcast. How important was that step? Well, it was definitely an expensive ad if you look at ABC was charging two to three million for thirty seconds spots. That was a sixty seconds spot. And it was definitely the company announcing big broad intentions for this Martin Scorsese movie. So maybe come a year from now we'll be talking about the Irishman either in or out of the Academy Award race. I guess the movie has to be good. I so we'll see what happens there.