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The Greek Cinderella

Tales

44:45 min | 8 months ago

The Greek Cinderella

"The tails on this podcast are dark, sometimes scary and full of adult themes as a warning the original Greek story of Cinderella features violence, murder, and cannibalism. Please exercise caution for children under thirteen. L. Awoke to the sound of her stomach rumbling it seemed hunger was the only feeling she knew anymore the famine spared no one in their tiny kingdom but with their father long dead, it hit els family particularly hard. She clutched her aching stomach. Her only hope for survival was to spend every waking hour at the loom weaving blankets. It gave her just enough money for bread. But does she stumbled into the kitchen that morning to we've something felt off her older sisters. So FIU and Lenny gazed at her with hollow is. Sit Down sister were playing a game Sofia said L. did she was told taking a seat next to her malnourished mother for days? Their mother had sacrificed her own food. So her daughters could eat now she was so frail that simply lifting the spindle seemed like a Herculean task, you're going to love this game L. Lenny. purred. The combination of hunger and fear caused Elle's hands to shake. What game she asked So. Feel licked her lips and leaned forward. You're hungry. Aren't you? L.. Nodded she was always hungry. Lenny giggled herself as crooked grin spread across Sofia's face good because whoever drops her spindle I were going to eat. Bird. I'm Vanessa. Richardson, you're listening to tales a podcast original, every Wednesday, we dive into the dark origins of another fairy tale. Can find all episodes of tales and all other park last originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream tales for free on spotify just open the APP and type tales in the search bar. Today were telling the Tale of little subtle slut, a Greek Cinderella story with a disturbing twist. Coming up, we'll discuss the origins of this tale. Little Saddle slut is just one of hundreds of variations on the classic Cinderella Story. The familiar tale of a girl who rises from poverty to become a princess through magical means and a lost shoe is found in all corners of the world there versions from China, the Philippines the Middle East and multiple American indigenous tribes each with their own unique variations to the story, but none are quite. As strange the version from western Greece Little Saddle slut the tail was first adopted into English in eighteen eighty four by English folklorist. Edmund Martin Gilbert. However, this Cinderella is a far cry from the Shiny Happy World of the nineteen fifties cartoon. The Greek version features the law slipper and evil sisters. We know from the classic brothers Grimm Tale however, little saddle slut takes a much more sinister turn. Cannibalism. Surely. Her sisters were just joking l thought they weren't really going to eat whoever lost this game. L., laughed nervously, but the blank stares of her to starving sisters made it clear. They were serious. Pickup your Loom Sophia snapped els is instinctively went to her mother why wasn't putting a stop to this? Lenny in Sofia always cowed to their strong willed matriarch. But now they seemed emboldened by her frailty their cruelty only grew with each passing day. Save something L. whispered but her mother could only stare back heartbroken her lips shaking as she tried to form words she was too weak to speak instead her shaky hand ease the spindle across the loom l sat paralyzed if you don't play you lose growled Lenny. L. Wiped the sweat off her hands and picked up the spindle she was weaving for her life. L. Kept her eyes trained on the loom trying not to think about her sister's hungry gays but she could hear Lenny Panting. That slight distraction was enough. L. spindle clipped align and flew out of her hand time slowed as she watched the string slowly unravel and tumbled toward the floor. L. Shot her hand out snatching the spindle inches from the ground. She led out nervous laugh L. Turn to her mother and saw tears running down her cheeks. But she didn't return els gays her mother had stopped weaving. Everyone had the silence was deafening L. began to panic. It didn't hit the ground I caught it. You can't. Suddenly she couldn't breathe the room began to spin and she stumbled from her chair shouting at her sister's you can't eat me but they didn't even look at her. It's not you who lost Lenny said. l., side as the panic left her body but then she realized, Lenny's eyes were staring at someone else. L. Followed her sisters gaze across the kitchen floor there a spindle slowly rolled to a stop. L. Held her breath as her is followed the string from the ground to her mother's empty hands. Now L. muttered overcome with terror. So Fia grabbed a knife from the table and the two sisters move toward their frail mother. Too Weak to put up a fight she sat at her loom and hung her head resigned to her fate. But as lenny jerked her off her stool, a rush of adrenaline shot through els veins, she sprung to her feet for the first time in her life. She was ready to fight what is wrong with you. She shouted she charged Lenny throwing her to the ground L. stood over lenny her fists balled enrage. After all she's done for us you. Before L. could finish her world went black. Sophia. Had stopped her sisters caterwauling with a blow to her skull. Hours later L. woke up her head pounding for a moment she struggled to remember anything at all. Here's our little sister called out Sofia her mouth full of food. Suddenly, it all came rushing back to L. The game, the spindle, her mother L. Sprang to her feet, her legs wobbling she leaned against the hearth and took in the room. It looked like a slaughterhouse blood covered everything the floors, the table, the walls her sister's garments were dark red soaked through with blood by the roaring hearth sat a pile of bones and her mother's gown the smell of STU fill the air. She choked back the bile in her throat you really eight her her sisters just smiled back at L. Lenny pulled out a chair and waved her over to join them. But this time L. couldn't hold her stomach. She sprinted for the far corner of the room and draped yourself across an old horse saddle covered in dried pigeon droppings. She heaved empty stomach had nothing to expel. The sisters laughed as L. Gagged in the corner. Look at precious saddle slot. Are you too good for our STU Sophia targeted her as they gulped down helping after helping of their mother's remains. L. Knew her sisters were cruel. But this she couldn't believe the famine had changed them their minds now fractured from reality. Despair fell over her paralyzing her in her spot on the old saddle. After what felt like an eternity her sisters had their fill and retired to bed. In the silence L. finally broke down through tears. She looked around at the bloody room. She refused to be surrounded by the reminder of her mother's murder L. dried her eyes and began to clean up the mess stuff she scrub the floors and the walls and wiped down the table she worked late into the night until every drop of blood was gone. As dawn broke L. finally turned to face the pile of bones that had been her mother. She knew her sisters would be up soon L. didn't have time to give her a proper burial. She would have to hide her remains somewhere in the house. L. Used every ounce of strength. She had left to push the stone away from the mouth of the hearth. She then buried her mother underneath the same pot she was cooked in. As the Sun Rose L. burned sage over the makeshift grave doing what she could to cleanse her mother's remains. I love you Mama I hope this brings you peace. L. Cried as she softly prayed to her mother's spirit after one last look she replaced the hearth stone and went to bed. For. Days after L. Absorbed Lenny and Sofia's abuse, they're typically vicious jokes took on new meaning after their mother's murder. Now, the sisters reminded her that she too could become a meal with one false step and the nickname from that first night. Little Saddle slut stuck. Day After Day L. put her Chin Up. Once sisters were asleep. She would sneak back out to the hearth she burned sage and said her prayers at her mother's grave. The nightly vigils left L. physically exhausted, but they were the only thing they gave her strength. But after forty days of silent morning, L. had had enough her mother deserved a proper burial. The next morning Sophia and Lenny pulled out their best gowns and readied themselves for. Church. Harry up saddle slut Lenny barked from the other room. But L. had other plans. She gave a forced cough and lowered her voice I'm not feeling myself today I'm going to stay in and see if it passes. Then she laid back down and waited for her sisters to leave. As soon as she heard the door slam, she sprang out of bed. She dreaded seeing her mother's remains again but l. knew she wouldn't find peace with her bones crammed underneath a fireplace. As the church bells rang throughout the village L. got to work. She dropped to her knees and shoved the stone away from the hearth. She gasped as a blinding light shot from the grave. She couldn't see anything. But a warm golden glow. Slowly her eyes adjusted and L.'s jaw dropped her mother's bones word gone. Coming up els discovery leads her to a new. 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They also have a thrilling four part special coming up on the Oklahoma City bombing that you do not WanNa miss from the craziest controversies to possible cover-ups they leave no stone unturned and no skeptic unheard because the truth is sometimes there's more to a story than just the truth follow conspiracy theories free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Now back to our story. After. Her older sisters cannibalized their mother L. secretly buried her remains inside their hearth forty days. Later she decided it was time to give her mother a proper burial. But when L. rolled back the hearth stone, the bones were gone. L. Stared through the blinding light into the bottom of the hearth. She couldn't believe her eyes inside the whole where her mother's remains had been. There was now a dress made of gold L. lifted it from the hearth and held it in front of her the Goan was soft as silk, but somehow it minute a luminescent glow. She'd never seen anything. So beautiful she threw off old ragged clothes and slipped into the gown. It was a perfect fit but there was more inside the grave a pair of slippers as luminous as the dress sat on top of a mountain of gold coins it was more money than she'd ever seen. L. Was overcome with emotion. She couldn't explain how or why this happened but she knew this was a gift from her mother. L. Couldn't save her mother but from the grave. Had saved her she would never go hungry again. Thank, you L. whispered as she broke down into. Joyful sobs. She had more money now than she would ever spend. But she knew she couldn't tell her sisters. They'd certainly kill her if she did. As. The church bells rang inspiration struck it wasn't just her family that had been destroyed by this famine. Entire Village L. wanted to share this wealth with her neighbors. Thankfully, they were all in the same place that day L. ran to the church with a sack of gold once she threw open the doors to the chapel, the entire congregation turned to look. The. squinted at her raising their hands to block the shimmering light. It's an angel someone cried out from the crowd. No one had ever accused her of being an angel before the ruled with her new identity she opened her bag and began to toss out gold coins from the doorway. The congregants couldn't see more than L. Silhouette through the glow of her dress, but they could see the money the church turned into bedlam as people dove into the aisle they knocked down children and the elderly grabbing as many coins as they could. Els Joy turned to horror. These people weren't thankful. They were desperate. They were as deranged does her sisters were when they tore apart their mother suddenly lenny shouted from the scrum. Kill her. She's got more money. L. panicked she turned and ran out the church doors tossing out coins behind her she could hear her sister's footsteps getting closer. If Lenny caught her, she'd be as good as dead. L.. Open the bag and dumped the rest of the coins on the ground. The footsteps behind her stopped as lenny scrambled for the gold but L. kept running once she reached home she shoved the glowing gown and the slippers back into their spot beneath the hearth as she pulled her old rags back on l. heard her sisters laughter from the St L. Quickly dove into. She pulled up the covers right as the door opened you picked a bad data skip church little saddle slut lenny called out an angel appeared and just started throwing money around too bad. You're sick. So feel laughed Lenny through a coin at L.. Despite the chaos L. couldn't help. But smile at the irony, her sisters had no idea they were throwing her own money at her. The next Sunday L. patiently waited for her sisters to leave before opening the hearth. The dress and slippers were still there and so was the money as a matter of fact, it looked like there was even more than the Sunday before. L. Through on her shimmering gown and filled her bag with gold after her disastrous first trip to the church she had a new plan. They'd already mistaken her for an angel, maybe she could use that to her advantage. This time when she arrived, she didn't start with the gold as the congregation turned L. held out her hands and shouted stop these gifts from God will cease. If you don't act with kindness, there is enough for all. L. dropped the bag of coins onto the floor and backed away. She watched as one by one. The congregants walked toward the gold satisfied. She turned and ran away her new role as an angel was exhilarating. She hoped that her charity would make the village more gracious place deep down she also hoped it would make her sisters a bit kinder. But when her sisters returned home that evening she realized how wrong she was they had spent their coins as soon as they had scooped them off the ground lenny bought herself a new dress while Sofia bought fine wine. That night they got drunk and heckled L. we've been blessed for our faithfulness, but perhaps God, is forgotten about you little saddle slut. Sophia, picked up a nearby knitting needle and poked it into els ribs. God might not even miss you when we eat you, the sisters roared with laughter as L. retreated to her saddle in the corner. She felt like a failure lifting her sisters out of poverty hadn't made them. Any kinder changing their hearts would require a different tactic. That next Sunday Lenny in Sofia didn't even bother inviting L. to church. As soon as they were out the door, she quickly changed and hurried to the chapel in her blinding gown and slippers. She stopped in front of the church doors and scowled if she couldn't persuade them, maybe she could scare them into gratitude L. cleared her throat and lowered her voice how dare you? How dare you? How Dare You That was the one. L. Through the doors open and WHO's this time? It wasn't just the congregants staring at her at the front. The Chapel standing by the priest was Prince Nikos he was a beautiful man with flowing curly hair and dark eyes. He squinted as he tried to look at her blinded by the glory of her dress, the prince pointed directly at L.. Sees her he shouted. L. Panicked and ran dumping coins behind her to stall the soldiers. But the guards were at interested in money she kept running there was a creek up ahead, but she didn't have time to make it to the bridge. She had two choices take her chances with the royal guard or jump across running at full speed she leapt at the edge. and. Landed in a heap on the other side as she hit the ground pain shot through her ankle looking down she realized she'd lost a shoe one of the slippers from the grave. Looked back across the creek and saw the guards and Prince Nikos standing on the other side, the slipper in his hand. L. Sprinted away. Once. She reached home she disrobed and fell to the floor breathless as soon as she put on her old. The front door swung open. We should have been born princesses were wasted here in this filth with one shouted Sophia as she walked through the door, lenny dumped her coins onto the table. I can pass for an angel plus look at my tiny feet. If the shoe doesn't fit, I'll just say that's why it fell off. L. Sat up from the floor intrigued. What was this talk about princesses? She moved to the table next to her sisters. It was the first time in weeks that she left her perch on the Saddle Sophia. cooed I'll look lenny now little saddle slut wants to hear about Church Sofia and Lenny excitedly recounted how Prince Nikos had come to see the golden angel. But during the chase he saw she was just a woman he was so taken with her that he declared whoever fit her slipper would be his bride L. blushed at the thought of becoming a princess. No one had ever paid any attention to her before and now the prince himself was looking for her. Sophia cackled. Look at Little Saddle slut blushing do you want to try the shoe on Princess? Saddle, slut has a nice ring to it. Doesn't it? L., demurred in her mind she knew it wasn't possible. She was a commoner after all. She wasn't made for royalty besides she lie too sneaking out to do her charity anonymously. A sudden knock stopped her sisters laughter. Then it was by an announcement. It was the royal guard. Sophia and Lenny Sprang from the table and ran for the door fighting over who would answer. Sophia shoved to the ground and threw it open on the other side were to imposing guards and Prince Nikos himself in his hand was els missing slipper. L. Froze her eyes locked on her lost shoe suddenly she realized her other slipper was still sitting on the hearth in her rush. She never put it away. She ran to the hearth and sat on top of the shoe. She couldn't risk one of her sisters, finding it and declaring it was there's Don't mind saddle slut my prince she's not all their Sofia said, she guided Prince Nikos toward the table she sat down and propped her foot up on his knee eager for him to try the slipper on her foot Nikos could clearly see it wasn't a fit but sophia forced her foot in all the same she grunted and struggled. But try she might her giant foot wouldn't fit in the shoe Sophia protested as the guards moved her aside Lenny then took her place as she predicted her tiny foot fit easily inside the slipper to easily. That's why it fell off. Your highness she shouted but the guards had already shuffled her away. Prince Nikos turned his attention to l. a warm smile spreading across his face. What about you saddle slut? Was it odd name she blushed it's L. Your grace but I'm no princess. But Nikos insisted he held out his hand to her. L. began to panic. She knew that once she got up, they would see second slipper she was hiding my feeder dirty I don't WanNa ruin your shoe she stammered but Nikos would hear nothing of it. Nonsense your feeder as lovely as the rest of you stay right there. Els Heart sped up as Nikos crossed the room and knelt before her he pulled her ankle to his knee and held out the slipper her foot slid right in a perfect fit. Coming up, L. Leaves her past behind her but her sisters soon follow now back to the story. After, losing one of her shiny slippers l was shocked to hear the prince was going to marry whoever's foot fit the shoe and she was a perfect match. Saddle slut can't be a princess lenny shrieked the guards tried to hold the sisters back as they kicked and screamed Sophia hollered way should've eaten you while we had the chance Sophia then managed to grab a bottle of wine and threw it against the hearth just missing l. l. jumped to her feet. But. As soon as she did, the room fell silent the second slipper she'd been hiding was revealed. It was undeniable L. was the golden angel of the Church. Prince, Nico stood, and took her hand. When. I heard of the beauty who gave away her fortune to this impoverished village I knew that kind soul would make the perfect princess. The prince dropped to a knee. Will you marry me? For a moment l. said nothing never in her wildest dreams. Did she think she would ever be a princess but one thought stayed at the front of her mind if she was she could do so much more for the people of the village she had to do it. Yes. L. Squeaked. She wrapped her arms around the prince as Nikos kissed her the sounds of her sisters shrieking faded away. Nikos waved to his guards remove these awful women. The soldiers dragged out screaming sisters as the prince gave l. a moment alone. Why don't you gather your things and say goodbye to this place A minute. Later, L. stepped out of the house in her glowing gown. It was all she needed. The. Next few months after their wedding were a whirlwind for how while she never felt like royalty she loved the power it brought her to do good. was no longer plotting her charitable acts alone Prince Nikos fully supported her their love blossomed, and soon they had a child but the birth of her son brought her sisters, Lenny and Sophia were desperate to see their nephew almost daily. They begged for forgiveness at the castle gates but L. always turned them away. At breakfast that morning, the guards once again came to announce the arrival. But as L. Wave them off Nikos took her hand. He told her I think it may be time for you to face them. L. Sprang from her seat angry their murderers vicious and hateful. They aren't capable of change. But Nikos. Calmly took his wife in his arms. You are a beacon of kindness and love for this entire kingdom yet you cannot forgive your sisters. You should give them a chance to make amends L. pushed him away but she knew he was right. She could at least here their apology for herself. That afternoon, the guards lead Sophia and Lenny into her chambers. Their heads bowed the guards stepped out leaving just three women and. Baby Son. L. glared at her sister's. Say Your piece and leave. Lenny looked at her with tears in her eyes. We were starving and cruel I know you can't forgive us but we only want to see our nephew once then we'll leave you alone. They couldn't stop crying and soon L. broke down to. Finally, she nodded his name is Stav rose she turned to get the baby from the crib. Suddenly something cracked the back of her head. She tumbled to the ground lenny stood above her smirking. Stupid Princess Saddle slut she gave Sophia a shove. Grab that trunk. We've got to get to the river before anyone notices. L. Tried to speak to scream but she couldn't utter a word her world went black. L. Woke up to the sensation of water splashing against her face. The sound of a river roared all around her L. flailed hitting would on all sides she was trapped inside a trunk water rushed through the crack says the box spun round and round in the river's current suddenly the river tossed the trunk high in the Air L. was certain she was going to die but it landed on dry ground she beat against the locked Lid God save me. Sure. Enough the top of the chest flew open. She squinted into the blinding sun when an old wrinkled woman came into view smiling down at her without a word she reached in the chest and dragged the princess onto the sand. You answered my prayers L. gasped. But as she reached out for the old woman, she realized she'd already walked away. L. looked around tall. Cedar trees towered over her blocking out the sun she was in the middle of nowhere. But she wasn't alone her heart race does she spotted the yellow is of a wolf pack peering out from the treeline l. turn to the old woman and yelled. Where are you going? Please don't leave out die the woman didn't stop. She called back to l.. Did the gold, answer your prayers or was it what you did with it? You thrived by your own determination save yourself. then. The old woman disappeared into the woods. Frantic L. jumped to her feet, the wolves were closing in. She squeezed her eyes tight and bought about the old woman's words she had survived so much and be it God or magic or her mother somehow she always found her way forward. The beasts were closer now L. began to pray. Please give me a hole in the ground so I might hide. then. She opened her eyes just beyond the wolf pack. A cave appeared next to the Riverbank L. sprinted past the wolves and rushed into the darkness. But they were right behind her she ran deeper into the cavern the wolf's breath on her neck. She prayed again whispering get me out of this cave. Suddenly. She was outside els jaw dropped in front of her stood a beautiful cabin. She ran straight inside and slammed the door. Thank you, God. She said, as she leaned against the frame she was safe. Out The window L. could see the wolves had surrounded the house on all sides waiting for her there was no escape she tried to catch her breath as she looked around the cabin it was completely furnished yet something didn't feel quite right. Something was inside the house she called out who's there but there was no answer just the sound of a chair being slowly dragged across the floor. As soon as Prince Nicos discovered what else sisters had done he took off searching for her my princess. He bellowed as he galloped beside the roaring waters but then laying just ahead of him on the riverbank, he spotted the shattered trunk its top was open and Nikos noticed footprints in the sand leading away from the water and toward a cave he was going in. Nikos dismounted his horse and walked through the darkness toward the light at the end of the cavern he as he stepped outside, he found himself surrounded by a pack of snarling wolves. The beasts bit and Claude at his body but he fought through the pain until they all lay dead at his feet covered in blood. He dragged himself towards the cabin surely, there would be helped there. But as he raised his hand to knock, he heard a voice cry out from inside it said. Open door. Nikos jumped back as the door swung open but there was no one on the other side carefully he stepped inside but the house was empty the door slammed behind him sending Nico scrambling for his sword. He froze as an overstuffed chair waddled out of the back room all on its own. Suddenly. The silverware on a nearby table rattled Nikos jumped at the noise then. He leaned down toward the spoons. He could hear something like a high pitched chatter they were whispering to each other. The prince decided he'd either lost his mind or died fighting the wolves and the afterlife was a bizarre place either way he wanted a souvenir he picked up one of the spoons and shoved it into his shoe. Then, someone stepped in front of the fireplace. But in the glow of the flames, all he could see was the silhouette of a woman. Put the spoon back my prince there's no need to steal what is yours the shape steps toward him it was l.. Nikos dropped his sword. He ran to his wife and kissed her she was alive L. Stared into his eyes and smiled finally she called out. Table. Set. Dinner for us and just like that a full meal was spread out on the dining room table Prince Nikos was stunned everything in the house from the Armoire to the smallest spoon followed her command. This is amazing. How was this all you? The prince stammered L. smiled at him. She wasn't sure she had always thought herself lucky. The beneficiary of some sort of enchanted charity, the gold, the gown, and now the cabin. But maybe it wasn't charity at all. Maybe through her resilience she'd harness the power of those magical gifts, the obstacles, her sisters, the wolves were simply tests of her strength. The prince looked at her amazed she was more than just a princess, but soon, doubt began to creep in. This place is as miraculous as you are, but will you return home with me to our kingdom? The prince reached out his hand L. hesitated. Finally she reached out and took his hand in hers. After my sister's betrayal I wanted to hide to avoid helping anyone else ever again but it would be ashamed to keep this magic from our people. They shouldn't have to pay for the evil of two women. Then standing up from the table she shouted. House. Go home. As, soon as the words left her lips, the entire cabin shook violently and lifted itself from the ground Prince Nikos grabbed a hold of the table and watched wonder as the house rose up past the tops of the Cedars L. couldn't help. But laugh at his surprise, the cabin floated back to the kingdom finally planting itself next to the castle. Soon L. and Nikos gave up the palace to live in the cabin for them life with their son within those magical walls was all they needed. They turned the castle over to the villagers to use as they saw fit. But there was still another matter to attend to Prince Nikos called for the capture of Lenny and Sophia. They would never have a chance to betray. L.. Again. As the executioner dragged defiant sisters to the chopping block L watched silently she sat off to the side not on a throne, but on the old saddle from her mother's kitchen. For the last hundred years there have been endless retelling of the Cinderella story many are straightforward reboots simply following its archetypal rags to riches framework. But through all the details, many variations, there's something unique about the little subtle slot. The protagonist isn't simply a poor woman striving for the comforts of royalty. In fact, elevated status doesn't even seem to appeal to her when given the opportunity to meet her prince she actively tries to avoid him and when faced with the choice of living in the castle or a humble cabin of her own creation she chooses the latter there's a purity to her character, her grace is. With her self discovery and as her altruism grows so does the power of her magic els fairy tale ending is a product of her kindness grit and mercy she gains wealth and status not through passive beauty but by her own endless generosity. Thanks. For listening to tales, we'll be back next Wednesday with a new episode. You can find more episodes of tales and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only does spotify already have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like tails for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream tails on spotify just open the APP tap browse and type tales in the search bar. Join me next week for another dark and surprising fairy tale. Tales was created by Max Cutler and is a podcast studios. Original executive producers include Max and Ron Cutler sound designed by Kenny Hobbs with production assistance by Ron. Shapiro Carleen Madden and Aaron Larson. This episode of tales was written by Jesse Harris with writing assist in spy Greg Castro. I'm Vanessa Richardson.

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That's a VIBE: ML for Human Pose and Shape Estimation with Nikos Athanasiou, Muhammed Kocabas, Michael Black - #409

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That's a VIBE: ML for Human Pose and Shape Estimation with Nikos Athanasiou, Muhammed Kocabas, Michael Black - #409

"Welcome to the. PODCAST I'm your host Sam Charrington. Hey, what's up everyone? I hope you all had a wonderful weekend. As I mentioned last week the popular causal modeling in Machine Learning Course hosted by Tuomo featuring instructor Robert Costa Zoo Nass is back. We've now held two sessions of this course and student feedback has been amazing students love the indepth course content assignment and capstone projects of course but the number one observation has steadily been about Roberts weekly study group sessions and the one on one office hours the students have with him. You can use this course as an intro to causal modeling by just spending a few hours a week, watching the course videos and attending the study group session or really dig into the materials and assignments and developed cutting edge skills in the field. Now no promises but a of former students have gone on to write academic research papers with Robert Based on the materials they learned in this course. This. 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Let's start by having each of US share a little bit about your background and your role at the Max Planck Institute, and what got you what in your background led you to this work and what your general research interests are. Muhammad, want, we start with you. So I am Ahmed Khwaja bunch I'm currently a student in Blank Institute for Intelligence Systems in perceiving systems department in Computer Vision and graphics research. Up So. I. Did my bachelors in Computer Engineering in Stumbled Technical University in Turkey and my master's in Middle East Technical University in Turkey again. So during my bachelor. So I tried to explore different areas that it is interesting for me ranging from robotics be through computer vision and machine learning. I continued for muscles degree in competition machine learning, and I started working on human poses made its mission which has broader implications and application areas, and in the community and yeah, and then I started doing a PhD again in the same topic. Thank you Nicholas. Show Hi, I'm Nicole Donahue. So I also doing student, the Max Planck Institute. I mean my first year. So a little bit about my background DI- STI- completed my Grad, my bachelors and Masters Degree in computer engineering in Greece in National Technical University. During the first year of my research, it's I've started doing grace. It's basically a natural language processing. But then a wanted to combine natural language processing machine learning with Computer Vision Show I, started my beads the much institute. I'm currently working on motion understanding the golding and how are we can combine motion actions with the language semantics. I would like to combine Musi learning and mathematical modeling with the human interaction. I think that's the most interesting part of the machine learning. Researchers and that's why I follow the AIDS, the degree and started last September. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you Michael. Michael Black I'm. Director at the Max Planck, Institute for Intelligent Systems. And I've been working on problems in human motion estimation since the early nineteen, Ninety S. And I became interested in in human motion because computers can't really understand US and before partners with us until they understand our facial expressions, how we move how we interact with the world and motivated by aristotle who said to be ignorant of motion is to be ignorant of nature and I, think almost all my research focuses on housings move and trying to get computers to understand that motion. A. Little Bit about my background I lived all over the place educated in the US and Canada and. Came to Germany about nine years ago I was a professor at Brown University. and. Been in Germany since two thousand eleven and came here to co found this new institute for Intelligent. Systems? That brings together scientists studying artificial intelligence and robotics, and using techniques all the way from machine learning like we're talking about here to physical systems where they make new materials for software botox on a very interdisciplinary and exciting field. So. Muhammed. You mentioned that your area of interest is in pose estimation and affect the paper that we're. We'll be talking about vibe. which is short for video and France for human body hose and shape estimation is kind of in the direction of advancing pose estimation. Why don't you share a little bit about? kind of the broader landscape of pose estimation and where your paper is hoping to contribute I. Think we've you know folks in the audience of probably seen various images that come from pose estimation papers and and tools that show. Kinda like a stick figure superimposed on a picture of a body in what you're doing is a little different than that. You're doing kind of three D- hose estimation talk a little bit about the broader landscape that your paper fits into. Sure. So basically, the poses to mission. is to estimate. Human Post. From emerges videos or any kind of sensory data. But incompetent region specically tackle with the problem of estimating human imposed from images on views specifically. And we can define human polls in. kind of ways like as you mentioned, one of them will be to estimate some key points like these are some spots set of key points only that can be joint locations or some polling locations of the human buddies, or we can also try to estimate the whole body like in a more structured and. Miss Manners like a human body Mash. So this kind of representation have some kind of hierarchy. So spots set of key points are really looking to explain the real human body. So and also we can estimate the thirty or three specific points. But the proceed to more higher richer representations like human by diminishes, which can define the whole body like the whole posy shape. which has some shooting formation that explains the human body. So in this paper, specifically with rightist made the whole body Mesh, which is more explanatory than on Key, points, and also we tackle the problem in three D. space. which. Makes the problem more difficult. To estimate from the images or videos only. Cry and Nika. You mentioned that one of your interests is in applying visits to motion. Can you talk a little bit about the motion aspect of this and the comes in? So we are aiming directly to capture emotions. So we are starting from playing video. which are multiple images to sequence of images, and from those images that we have we detect the person in the video and we estimate it's his or her three deposing shape. So many many methods have looked at this problem but. The vast majority focused on single images. So estimating human pose one image. and video is just a sequence of single images. So you could just apply those techniques one frame at a time. If you do that, you tend to get a jerky reconstruction that's not moving smoothly and naturally like a human would. and so the one of the observations here is there's more information in the video sequence in the continuity of the motion, and if we can train the computer to exploit that by teaching what it is to move like a human than we can exploit information across a long video sequencing, get better results than you would get by doing it frame by frame. and as an example of the better nature, the results you've got a great picture at the beginning of the paper that shows some areas where the current state of the art method in a challenging video doesn't seem to track very well your method performs better. What does that kind of reference method that you looked at and what's the data set that you are building your model with? Whether a competing methodist from one of our very good friends and colleagues on Yukon Iowa who actually did an internship in in our institute. So it's a friendly competition for WHO's going to have the state of the art. On juice. I'm amazing and she's a professor at Berkley. This her she also extended a A. Single frame methods over time, but in in a different way. And One of the things that distinguishes our approach. was actually inspired by something she did earlier. which is to use a discriminator. That knows something about its trained to distinguish between. Fake. Human motions in real human motions and to enable that we exploited data set that we made public. Back, in the fall called a mass and a massive data set of about forty five hours worth of of human motion capture. Data. That captures a wide range of. How people move and then we used to teach the computer basically what? A good human motion and what isn't? And, when you say human motion capture is this kind of regular video or is this the kind of thing that we will often see with humans in white suits with like? Balls around them. Yeah. The ladder. There many. This commercial motion capture data with markers, infrared, reflective lights, and so on. So very much lab setup. And many groups around the world have made small amounts of motion capture available every every data set though is in a different format. And researchers were struggling to get enough data to train deep neural networks as as we all know networks are great and they do wonderful job, but they need a lot of data their data hungry. and. So what we did was pulled together a dozen different data sets and put them all into a single format this representation of the human body we use called. Simple SNPL. and. By unifying them all it provides enough training data. To really do something bigger. So Muhammed, you tell us a little bit about your kind of first steps in tackling this problem should. So the first step. is to create a baseline for your methods. So what we did in the first step is to create a model that generally printed up some polls shake for video without using any intricate or complicated architecture. So at the time, the first thing be try. So there is a myth occult Human Michika very, which estimates opposing shape from only a image and. V tried to extend this huma coveted. To, estimate, a sequence of poses given a video using current noodle network architecture. So return network is basically a type of neural network that lets you integrate some information from post frames or pause data point. So we take each. Output of CNN's from Hugh Michika methods, and we try to instigate sequels of poses from three Colonel Network architecture. This was the first thing that we try to see how the performs with debatable data. And in the next step, we tried to integrate amas using a gentleman, the Medford approach. So imagine we have this baseline methods that produces some noisy or inaccurate information of the motion happening. And, and if we integrate discriminator to the training stage, which tells if the predicted motion is plausible or similar to real life. Than can't supervise this baseline methods to produce looking motions, and this is what we did in the final stages into almost data set and discriminated, which supervises baseline gently to Rehab. So, let's go back to the initial stage. You've got a CNN, who's you're feeding into an RN N. what part of the CNN are you feeding into the? Is it kind of the output of a final classify are stage or is it some earlier layer in the CNN that you're using as to your are in? So knickknacks summarizes the Human Michigan. So, we have a CNN that. The image features and then regressive, which is a couple of layers estimates simple but the Polish a parameters. So the CNN part is fully Cuomo Lucien fully combat model, and so we get rid of the regressive pods to train the wife and we only use the CNN part exact. The image features poetry and we feed his image features to recurrent neural network me have. You talked about the discriminator is the discriminator train separately or kind of end to end as part of training the CNN. Yeah. So actually the generators generate some predictions and with rain the whole thing end to end. So the discriminator as generators, predictions of the bozen safe and it takes also samples from. US. Show amasses exactly what Michael previously explained as the unified, the motion So we use a discriminator to validate if the sequence of poses that we have is bloated. It can actually be a real human motion show the discriminator job is by. Taking those two different posts sequences to compare them and refined the generator's output sequence. So we drained this whole thing and dwelling and the discriminator stakes the real fake samples from Amazon generator. When I think about the in this picture that you created for me Michael With the, you know the folks in suits with the balls that. Processing and those images I think of those as fairly sparse points on the body that are being captured and yet the these models are. They looked to be like fairly high. Resolution fairly fine grains. How does the model go from kind of this sparse motion capture to more robust? Mesh good. Great. Question. That's a whole nother paper. Indeed when you catch her a motion capture lab, you've got a bunch of sparks markers, and then the traditional methods solves for a skeleton that explains those markers. Now we replace that traditional solve with a different kind of solve. We actually take our three D. body model. This is the simple body model and fit it to the market data in using a process called marsh for motion and shape capture. and. This was a paper that appeared. It's. A. Few years ago and doesn't really good job of taking sparse motion capture markers and fitting the most likely body surface that could explain them. It turns out that from twenty to sixty sparse markers on the body. You can really figure out what a person looks like. You could think about it as a very, very sparse three d scan of the person. And with a powerful statistical model of the body, it's about how body shape varies and how pose varies. You can fit a sequence of these various bars markers and get out kind of realistic detail that we can then use to train other methods. Maybe Muhammad, you can help me get to the like the core elements of this paper that helps it perform beyond the the previous method, what what's Kinda that colonel of contribution here innovation here that helps get to that incremental performance and How did you arrive at that? The was that obvious you know and setting out this project and you just kind of put the pieces in place and it all worked or Zahra evolutionary process here that up rival at the final architecture. So the major contribution in this paper is this motion discriminative. And which tells if the predicted sequences are fake or real got. So this is the major contribution we have, and this is the one that we get the most improvement. In results. In the results. So. It is quite into. From the Human Michika paper from. As you. The, ordered in all of that, using this kind of a discriminator for single image poses to mation helps. To have plausible buddy. So end vetoed that intuitively district help for sequence of poses. And the older than all of that is available scale data set, which has different kind of motions which happens in real time and are formed by the real human actors. And this intuitive? Let us to. Create this architecture. So. During the development phase, we had a lot of technical difficulties. and. We just get through them by doing. Fine Experiments on which part improves which. Mark Picture. What were some of those technical difficulties and the experiments that helped you overcome them Up for example tuning the we discriminator generator and have this discrimated Loeser. At. The tells if the sequence is your fake and also some other losses that tells. The to join vocations and three different locations of a given. Input Radio. So. We head to tune this to kind of losses to every on one optimal solution. This. Was One of the. Things that we. Do. Maybe, it's worth telling the audience also that one of the problems here is we want to get three human poses in in detail and yet there's not much ground troops training data where you have. Video sequences with the Truth Three D. human pose. In correspondents and there are large data sets of labeled to human poses. But not three, and so this is one way to combine week to D. Information with very strong three. The information they're not paired amass doesn't have any images. It's not associated with any real videos, but the discriminator learns what it is to be emotion, and then the generator learns how to go from images to two to three, sweetie. Yes. Exactly. Actually that's what what the the the high overview the paper we get the duty that we would some bow sequences and then we use the the. Day. The demoss various motions to refine those predictions do be able do not between the Dushi concern from a mass in the our sequence, our generated sequence, the discriminate. Ideally. Shoud. Should not distinguish between those do. So she is the discriminator should be fifty percents sure about which one is the between the fate and that's a great point. So the discriminator is operating purely in the motion domain doesn't know anything about images or you know the the frames of the video, it's just answering the question does this seem like the kind of motion that the human body does based on the AMAS data set and the CNN in other parts of the architecture more focused on extracting motion from the video frames? Exactly Whole and so the I think one of the points that you make early on in the paper is that the The motion that an even the examples that you you give is not like normal motion kind of complex motion that is not something that you. You see every day is that was. The MAS data set. Kind of curated to identify an include lots of examples of complex motion in it, or is there something in the process that is kind of extrapolating to that kind of complex motion? Is a good question there's a mixture in there. There's a lot of mundane things like walking. It seems like in motion capture labs, people capture a lot of walking So but there are some data sets that are a little bit more extreme. Have more interesting poses, and in fact, we captured somebody will call extreme poses which we hired some gymnasts to come in and do basically the the wildest things that the human body can do just to really. Flesh out the space of of what's possible. And there's One other thing that happens in motion capture for video games people often capture something like kicking a ball and. Turning left or turning right in very discreet movements. and. So we have something called transitions data set in there as well. That captures people doing one movement and then transitioning to another movement. So again, trying to expand these these transitions are things that you might not think to capture. On your own but are really part of the natural human behavior. So. There's a mixture in there and it's rich enough. For this task are, are there specific things that? Are Having worked with the status effort this particular task. Jump out at you. As you know, I wish the data set had more of you know kind of category X. because it would help you build more robust models. Yep basically that the I'm almost all of the available mock-up data by different labs sculptured in different conditions, but it doesn't have a lot of in the wild data. That's the thing that it's missing the extreme poses and the in the wild the kind of data. So someone doing extreme nasty exercises or having like motion without the constant constant pace and having different poses and. Like opening the hands or the feet extremely quickly or slowly or I mean we could always benefit from more variation of the extreme and Russ motions. Now that we are. Starting to have thinking like sporting events that are captured with many cameras from lots of different angles. Does that ever able to take the place of motion capture types of information, are we not sophisticated enough to correlate all of that and and produce the kind of data sets? That kind of traditional motion capture is able to provide? That my at all. Yeah. So it's a let's come back to this idea that you know traditional motion capture is a bunch of sparse points on the body not very failed. With images, we've got thousands, hundreds of thousands of points on the body it just happened to be in two. D By. Are Much richer. In some sense. We have all this facial expression information details of the hands, subtle subtle motions of the body breathing and selling. You can see all that and video. So our hope is to you know one day that. Motion capture from video will be more accurate and more detailed than motion capture from a traditional Mo cap system today. We're not there yet. This is a step in that direction I. think your intuition about combining multiple views is a good one. It's something that we're we've looked at in the past and continue to look at. Can we combine. Multiple duty. Views of person get really high quality out. I think the answer is, yes. I haven't seen a system yet that competes with the most accurate. But then the most accurate mo cap systems, you know cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and have dozens of cameras and if you. Built a video baseball cap system of VAT, sophistication I think we might be getting close. And does does lighter types of systems or like what we've seen with the connect does that play into this as well? Yeah. Absolutely. We also work with connects. than new Microsoft connect as your. Allows you to put multiple connects together. So you can actually have several of them looking at a person that's a really promising direction for a lightweight easy to set up system. We don't have anything to show yet but. So Mahmut again, kind of going back to his opening picture and the and the paper. It's easy to see where your model is outperforming the traditional bottle kind of eyeball the the Delta How do you? Evaluate that performance more concretely at mathematically in the paper. So, we have several data sets that has grown through a three D joint positions, and one of them is a data set code three deposes in. Again. Is Developed in our group in personal systems group. So this data set is captured in the wild. And there are some subjects with varying some a you use sensors on buddy. And so this IM use sensors can be placed on the clothes so it doesn't affect the. Image Quality. And so you can get the three joint positions from those sensors. Envy the major. The most prominent they said we try is the POW to people in the data set, and so basically, what we do is we take the sequences from the data set at produces results, and also the other methods results and compare what is the distance between the ground through a joint positions and predicted ground joint positions annals show that I saw other indoor clean data sets. We also use one of them's called months three point six am and the other one is called. MPI INFORMATICS TO BE IMPOSES mission days. The Three D. poses in the wild data set is that that you mentioned it use a particular kind of sensors that sensor and the kind of sparsity of that sensor similar to what you see in a system or is it you know somehow more more dance I'm curious about? The. Relationship between the primary way you're comparing performances based on Kennedy's sparse representations I wonder if that. Leaves something to be desired or an opportunity in terms of the ability to to kind of capture what's happening in complex motions with these sparse data points on the body. It's a good question. So we use their commercial Mokaba soup called accents uses these inertial measurement units. Ten or twelve on the body, but we don't just use that We also use a camera tracking the people around and we used to D- measurements were about the the joint locations in in those images to. Precisely align the estimated three D. body posed with the images and so we have A. A technique that fits again are simple imperial body model to these multiple kinds of measurements, the new measurements and the two D. measurements we also have to solve for the camera translation and rotation and things like that. But putting this altogether gives reasonable. We don't call it ground truth. We call it reference data. We're a little careful about that. You know it's not the same level as a motion capture lab. But you get the benefit of being outside in in the wild with all the complex lighting. And things that go on. A. Natural scenarios. A trade off the holy grail is to have perfect ground truth where you know every single bit of the motion with no crazy sensors to get in the way outdoors in the wild. But. It doesn't exist. So mom and mentioned earlier in this process of kind of experimenting and identifying. Things it didn't work with. Particular emphasis on the discriminator Nikos I'm wondering from your perspective. You know if you can share another example of something net, maybe thought was gonNA work and didn't inhale you had to adjust the approach to accommodate it. The experiment station proceeded was was the. But. Yeah there are some a few points. So we tried. One minor point was that we drive the difficult CNN feature extractors and that was a difficult part to experiment with but we quickly converts to optimal one and the other one is the we decided to use and self attention mechanism. Which is Like a major kind of a major contribution because actually the self attention mechanism is not so commonly used in three D. modeling or modelling of human motion. So we use the self attention mechanism get even better. Results on the discriminator part. These basically imagine that we are processing the human motion sequence and we are expecting some features using Do you layers, which is a type of very your network as Mohammad said before and instead of hard pulling combining these features statically we are using awaited Schema to combine those two those features a show the features that we have for every bows in the sequence we combined them as did some inorder do amplify the contribution of the most important frames of the sequence more for the discriminate there's. Performance to improve. That's what was due. He technical. Difficulties that we have an were you able to develop any kind of intuition over why worked and what the? Mechanism ended up attending over. Yet, we have made A. Experiments the we tested the sympathetic ocean mechanism show. We'd dry two different things. So instead of using self attention, withdrawing bullying the features in stop the way. So concatenation the adverts and the Moxie, the features, and using that for the discriminated decide whether the motion is fake or he'll, and we compared with that gas with our gaze and the performance seeing the to improve it didn't improve Martin that the results were extremely visible but for sure attention pointed out the frames that they should be corrected in the post sequins and that they were the more plausible ones. I think about the various pieces of the model that you've built here you got CNN you've got Narin and you've got this attention mechanism you mentioned va in the paper is seems like a lot of moving pieces in wondering I'm wondering how that kind of impacted the the the process also from a computational perspective if the training runs were very expensive, you're also working with video, which is a lot of data. How was the process of working working on this from a? Computational perspective that have a lot of impact on the way approach things. Mahmut. So surprisingly. The model we have both in training time and testing time is quite lightweight even though we have lots of components so. The heaviest in our model is the CNN feature extraction park. And what we do during training the computer CNN. Features and we don't update this CNN Mojo and we only trained the recurrent current mental network and says the number of parameters is. Quite, low with the simple about the representation at our neural network is quite. Lightweight and. We don't use like very deep layers on the couple of aesthetic of. Layers is enough for us and it didn't. It wasn't that difficult for us to train the model. So it actually doing any time for example, like in half an hour in one hour, we can congress. Would solution since we use this? Computer. CNN features and a doing today time also gives me discriminators and the only use the genitive and it makes it. Much Foster Okay, and then what about from a perspective? How expensive is that? Again, it is not quite expensive since we only have the CNN. fifty lowercase. Lightweight entity online in time in GP US and The AD Again, that expensive. So so commercial GPO and we can get almost deal time as speed. Or call. It to maybe start to wrap things up at love for each you to kind of put this paper and maybe talk about the things that your either your top lessons learned are the thing that you excited about with this paper and his contributions and kind of how you see it. Moving forward in your own Research Nikos, you want to start us off the yeah. Can Start Show I doing M, B I in September under the I didn't know a lot of things for three D. human mode links show. These paper was is, is a very, very good the first experience and I think the most important one of the most important features of the paper is that it is clear i. mean the contributions are clear we use. A lot of an pair three data to refine to the predictions actually to predict to the predictions. Actually. Three. Meshes, that were predicted mostly from the points and. our implementation is converges foss. Gun. create high-quality in state of the art Date a The predictions are a quite high quality and the state of the art. And also one important thing is that the we've made all the goal to end the data obliquely. We have detailed instructions for everyone. So it's really easy for anyone if you want or C- wants to run and use our model and methods, we have clear instructions to do it right Muhammad. So it seems that Vibe is working quite on the for Volition V. have but in real life or in into wild videos, a little difficult situations end. Motion is quite A. Quite difficult to model because she wants capable of lots of different kinds of moments and also in real life situations we have. Like objects and scenes on. Voss. We have all skulls by. Again objects or other people. These kind of problems are still waiting to be tackled with and. Also be show with Wipe Em v cannot perform well in Assam. In. In these kinds of things and so and in the future I mean there are lots of things that we have to do to model human motion and also and track and capture human motion from videos, and this is what I learned in the process. Even though we have the state of the art model, we cannot soul even some basic scenarios still. Thank you, Michael. I'm really excited about this paper and where it's taken us but I'm always thinking about the next thing and. Humans. Don't move for no reason. They don't move in a vacuum they move in the three D world to solve tasks and to change that to have an influence on it, you cross the room to open the door you open the door to move through it. You moves through it to get to the next room. You're solving tasks all the time, and in solving those tasks you're interacting with the environment. Even. If you're interacting with another person, you're moving your face and you're gesturing in ways that try to have an influence on the other person maybe without any contact, but you're still using your body to influence people or the world and. This work at the moment just treats the body in isolation body isn't embedded in the environment. The CNN doesn't really know anything about the environment. It's a single person not interacting with other people I think there's a tremendous amount we still have to do to get computers to really understand. US. And that those next steps will be about human human interaction and about human objects human seeing interaction. Greg. Well, Muhammad Nikos Michael thanks so much for taking the time to share with us your paper and what you're up to. Thanks. Thanks. Our. Show for today to learn more about today's guest or the topics mentioned in this interview visit Tuomo Ai Dot com, of course. 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News in Brief 4 November 2020

UN News

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News in Brief 4 November 2020

"This is the news in brief from the united nations. Libya's to opposition parties have met for the first time in the war-ravaged country to discuss how to implement a nationwide ceasefire. According to a statement from un's mill issued late on tuesday the un support mission in libya military representatives from the government of national court jan and the libyan national army l. a. have met in the southern city of academies participants will initiate discussions on the implementation of the ceasefire agreement. My establishing joint committees and monitoring and verification mechanism on smell said libya has been in crisis since the twenty eleven overthrow or former leader. Moammar gadhafi leading to two rival administrations with the gna in the capital tripoli while the ellena controls large areas of the east the talks which are happening in parallel with other discussions aiming to bring about national elections and fix the oil-rich country's economic collapse followed the signing of a permanent ceasefire agreement. By both delegations last month in geneva the leaders of the divided island of cyprus have met in the capital nicosia in an encounter convened by the united nations on wednesday statement by the secretary. General's good offices mission in. Cyprus said that the greek-cypriot leader nikos anastasiadis and the turkish cypriot leader s in totta had met for the first time on behalf of their communities describing their meeting as cordial. the statement. continued. That mr trotter. And mr anastasiadis had expressed their determination to positively respond to the un secretary general's commitment to convene fresh talks about the island at an appropriate stage. Un chief antonio guitar schmidt mr anastasiadis and the than turkish separately moustapha. Kinsey in berlin twelve months ago. Any future you and lead. Discussions would include representatives of cyprus's to communities along with guarantor powers greece turkey and britain talks. Were last held in switzerland in two thousand seventeen on the future of the island which has been divided since one thousand nine hundred eighty four. Those discussions centered around six main issues including security and guarantees new territorial boundaries and power-sharing but talks stalled after a week. Un chief antonio guitarist cool for inclusive dialogue and to defuse increasing. Tensions across africa's second most populous nation. The secretary general's appeal follows reports that at least fifty. Four people were killed during attacks on three villages in the west of the country at the weekend. Eyewitnesses claimed the victims were rounded up and killed while homes were torched and livestock stolen in violence that is widely viewed as ethnically motivated the rebel aroma liberation army. La has been reportedly blamed for the attacks on sunday in rome. Estate against ethnic mamoru the civilians targeted were mainly children. Women and the elderly in a related development prime minister abi up on wednesday announced countermeasures against the people's liberation front of tigray p l f following a separate attack on a federal military base in the northwest of the country it comes amid the ongoing covid nineteen pandemic which led to the price of national elections desert locust infestations flooding and replacement. Daniel johnson un news.

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Peter Parker: Spider-Man #77-#80

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Peter Parker: Spider-Man #77-#80

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Don't know I mean there's a whole list of people who like work the I mean I don't know who the art because it's like Howard Mackie. Claudio. Castellini Cam Smith Butler, Roca, Howard Candelaria Ralph Cabrera the all under store in art. So. I know the art in this one just seemed very Did it seem seventies or something about it? Yeah except that. I could see that aesthetic. I think the rest of them are drawn by reminded junior. But yeah, this one just found in the to scream seventies may maybe maybe that's what they were going for maybe they they are filling the vibes. May you know they were the writer here on collaborate and? Still a bad name because it's more BS yeah. Yeah exactly. That's insight suit. Screams disco. WHOA. Hellfire. Making the dead rise. Key and do the king. But yesterday after Christmas. Empire States Pretty Much Empty but. I guess the Custodian Otis Wapner complaining about thinking, complaining himself about his job which have you seen any horror movie don't do that. Yeah we'RE GONNA. Be Right back either. Thank you. Jamie. Kennedy. But yes gets attacked by more BS. Gets attacked outside. And Snow. Vampires kisses the title. but the next. The. Next morning pizza finds the ever the cops name red seen worry more gotta be on this campus somewhere. And Louis favorite line in the issue contact telepathically if I needed help tracking down morpheus. Because those two are messing with more via an x men twenty four. How about now remember what does Christmas issue Number, I remember never forget. Cruelty they tried to start. They tried to date heater Parker Nate. Grey. Relationship Friendship Role Two seconds. Any. Vic for that Cherokee will slash it for that but I'll not make any. No. Thank you know. The only problem is I've been trying to contact needle Dan, all come visit splitting headaches. Oh my Lord. Then he sees Mary? Jane with Jill Stacey Wednesdays. Cousin, get. Another flashback I could right Oh my Lord I mean they had her obsessing over Petri Wani's married. It's like. A little. Action Role. I mean. Joel Stacey. Bentley enough looks exactly like gwen except for the. Blonde haired black girls thinking well, she's still. Dark Hair. But besides that, you know it's like their cousins get it. Just so she wouldn't freak them out maybe. gwen stacy clone along who knows maybe I belong together we don't know. That will Mary Jane was the school sees. Appears like I'm not interested in any faces from the past. Mary Jane obsessed with tracking this up. She wants me to be best buddies. But yes. Because I think right at the clone saga, it's like you know Arthur Stacey George Stacy's brother shows up. I want to know everything about my brothers death know fifty years later it's. Never it's like what do you need to know when Doctor Octopus fighting on a rooftop? He you know Captain Stacey went to save a kid from getting hit by a falling chimney and he hit instead. Of. A, serious. There's always grains fears in the. After afternoon. Why is it? I'd rather face off against a dozen super bodies than be put in the middle of an awkward social situations. What's weird. About this book. Most of these books you find on Ebay the shipping cost more than the actual issue how? About that I know. That's the only downside always more will movies. Now now everyone's a fan they think they can just like charge an arm remember when you could just like find comics for like a dollar you know. Thankfully, I can't imagine favorite comic book shops urine sample. To other cities because you know I'm just like you know just casually. I'm just like, wow. Yeah use. That I, mean just like outside of America Tubes I, Know Ray says he's all envious of us with like the I'm on if they have like a lot of back issue bins or dollar bins over there. will be like a three dollar the. A looney or whatever. What the? Australian currency I just assume the has a Koala bear. Bird. Nate Adams. Canadian. Money actually does you can scratch smelled like Maple Syrup? Anymore for Real Story. We're going to get feedback next episode about his money you know that, right? Yes. Please that you can't as. Educators, ugly Americans that only care about ballot USD currency. Combined Jan.. Do is bad for Canada when it's a bad like poor Canada had to pay like six, seventy, five an. Blame. A yeah. This issue is. so yeah Peter comes down. Match Starts Kissing Him who. then. chills like Oh. Hi Peter, I'd really like think love the get together soon. Talk about Gwen. Yes, sure. Look Yeah. Let's get together and have a casual chat about my ex girlfriend is Brutally murdered. You might be one day. Man. But the order man who asked by the man who slept with her and wanted to kill her where we could find out about that pregnancy. You, we talked about that previously. But. At, this point aunt May's quote unquote dead. So Hey, we're supposed to meet Anna and half an. All. By these people aren't here. You can see clearly if you're watching her face that says. Oh. You you can't see your tattoo on cameras as she put it on the under caption for your area. But yes and Unicorn giving you the finger. Yes. Awkward tramps. But. Then, chills Arthur shows up because the university brought him in a investigate the recent rash of campus murders. An Oak. They know where they live ray late more New York yeah. Okay. Just checking Peter Peter Marriage of hurt so much good things about you must get together and speak about my brother and niece. No other topics sightsee said people over. Yeah apparently. Zach word. I know dinner tonight in Mary, Jane's like Yeah. Sure Cafe Luna. Cafe Muna come on guys. I mean, Caribbean. Cafe bad or something or. Caffeine salary. And once again, C. Last episode hiding in another attic. Moebius. Sat down now blood flowing. Zane. Sit on the force. I know I, will slumber no more because every time I do a dream about the past dreaming about his origin we went into last episode. Jane. A didn't give us. Give us. Give us a six armed flashback. The humanity. I know he's basically saying the I became more be assumed I was his friend Nikos Spiderman McCain my worst enemy. Hey. This is. Now. That you mention it could buy a couple. Bland. Jane. NAILED IT CATCH A. Sometimes. I hope Spiderman does exceed catching me then maybe my dreams will no longer run red with blood. Holiday slightly you know the tone is slightly toned down. So I do appreciate that. Yes. but there's a winter coat really keep you that warm if you're shown as much legs Mary Jane. Okay. So here's the trick that I don't know the will your guys you pilot nobody but pantyhose thank you. You put maybe wheel are you? Planning on you actually keep you warm. So that's my head. Can why her legs association that she has made oil impales on. That keeps the warm. Okay. But. Then she was west. Politics but I'm going to meet killing her dad dinner so. Come if he. Wants. ACKWARD. and. Peters. Thing not well not. But that Oh look you shows up trying to do our best Mary Jane Impression Betty Brant. B.. Buy You a cup. He believe I'm an investigator reporter now for everyone who doesn't hang. Splash. Get Near. I know he's he didn't want to have coffee with Jill database definitely on coffee with the EX, girlfriend. Agra ex like let's be honest. You're right. Peter King Oh yeah. She's ready to sleep with them even when she was married to Ned. You're right. I can therefore you Peter to shame things thing where a gap between. And then it's ninety seven. So of course, we got the friends of was is it the Friends of humanity? Yes. Just love those names that are obviously ironic. We hate we hate to those needs. A Lord Chats. Back, cups code for Luke Cage Grade Coffee. Well done. Sir. Nice couple. I think in pretty pants brands minor was. The friends of humanity urges like s harassing people. Peers ready to get in their face. See Round, campus. String Bean. Really. Might have work like they've never met scale. It's fine I'll say to work thirty years ago but kind of. Best is crazy. They're the brown shirts in prewar Germany. Yeah this is this is so unbelievable. Who would let racist just schrool around streets unbelievable. Own last week summer children. Over That he what's wrong. Probably nothing I shouldn't even be talking to you about Flash, but he is your friend. But you do. I. Never allowed myself to be close to anyone now but flash. I. Don't want know how he got that nickname. Nothing to proud nothing to be proud of. So, while pity's porn out, Peter looks up and sees more this giant bat goodbye. Sorry I'm sorry I just remember supposed to meet Mary Jane Sorry I'll call you. Call later put out a cold wet blanket are being. Did you have to bring up your white. McNicoll nothing. Hard Nichols. Job. Isn't you basically have multiple jobs welcome to the case. Nobody. Yes. They should just play that in the intro every episode. Mary. Beth for Wayne's world. Any show. The Friends of humanity decided to stick around, and of course Peter Kemp PIPPI too good but I can dodge their punches. With any run when he gets chance, he runs into now changes. Spiderman. You. Know. I got a CORNCOB. Pipe. Yeah because Peter thinks he can't be late for dinner. He does the catches more BS attacking yet another woman looks like Mary Jane. I mean, there's every woman in New, York? Where like the same kind of similar coats Thing about late seventies, seventies, late nineties the fashion was homogeneous depending on what you worry like. It was pretty much all the trees but I mean look at page seventeen with this woman's wearing I mean come on someone think that was supposed to be Mary Jane. It's convenient for the sake of a plot but ninety. Nine. Oh so yeah. So spider-man's Yup more. webs him up. I will not be stopped from doing what I must I heard. Judges don't care. Exactly. Yeah. So yeah. More Punches Spiderman down then gives him blind been blind gives them a little. Out that's smart. Mouth Peter gives a little nibble on his neck I trouble. Quick Snack, you're not the whole meal you're just a quick snack. Your blood will sustain me play need to again then will find Dr Johnson who. Deal with her. So, that, Peter Passes out leading in snow. And the issue ends with him coming dinner, and of course, you know as I ran into an old friend to chew the Fat Lapan. Result 'cause he's getting Arthur space. What's your Parola was fighter mad in any passes out on the table. How Times have changed before he would like a minute he was spider manning's Glad of. Are It's onto. Issue Seventy eight. Cold blooded crazy accurately also say. Peter and Mary Jane Right in the subway home as you down. Just. Embarrassed Jesus batteries in your your companion because he's sleeping on her lap as she's thinking about all the enemies he faces and then. These three goons come up to them and Mary Jane. Just stares them down. Guilty. Guilty. When there's flashers hairy, and then the villains all look at least we get white suit auto. As we determined Oh we're going to get their. Sinister six. Mary. Jane scares off these goons. Vice going pretty soon. We packing a gun and Lebron's on me who was he frank castle? was says the Mary Jane you're awake yeah. The pesky spider sense Moore's me every time. Argue about Jones Jilin Arthur army now. Just, let me ease into knowing them at my own speed. been burnt by this kind of surprise before the parents. Seriously I mean he has excuses. He's like, yeah, I. Remember when my parents showed up before were you know the clone saga? Let's Get me started on clones. I've been reading. See I. Know You. Big Riley Yeah. Yeah. Whatever Ben Reilly Spider Man's clone ease the guys get sweatshirt. Yeah. That's He's blonde here. What did you say now Chad sinister six th sounds like alternative party that you need to sign a waiver for. Probably pretty much. Pretty, much online though. Because covid. Yeah. Twenty twenty two, we got plans though don't you worry? Help Machinery Catchy killing I know this is going to be the first year Wiley been up here probably. Blame everybody who didn't want to do their, we could alloway but y'all insisted. If you love me, you'd be up here in a has met suit. But then More them, you always see more recent nother room long under construction empire, State University, half their campuses like under construction. Remember that. I guess because I mean remember the Jackal had a lab somewhere now. This. Lamps is loved to blow up so true. They, would have said. I believe Chad Halloween is my anniversary I did my part. I believe. BS Maurice's killing. This is abandoned room you know basically armour. you're not sympathetic now. So we don't especially like redesign. I know. To make them a little more attractive. You know the nineties. Oh this is after interview with the Vampire. Make them look like in the. Allowed to be sexy again, make him look like Brad Pitt who truck struck in the face. It'd be that. Brad. Pitt bone shrugs drown over. His face all messed up. but he was the woman is attacking was doctor Andrea Janson She's either thin. My grasp lasted spiderman in a beard I. Imus Finders Make Understanding House. Is. Head. Go figure. So yeah. She's a song. The scientists of a red herring want. But. Yeah, he. ME. Client once when he wants her hell you. Can think is a major thing. And then Peters having a nightmare. Merging thinking this isn't right. I insisted he should see a doctor for the patriarch from worthy as always worried about protecting US identity. No I'm just GONNA say. These data better with me that. The comparisons there in it's just obvious I'm just saying ness. At it Oh. Yeah. But he's still freaking out numerically no matter what they always come back more out there at the find the where kills again. Assist land. were. burning. Up. You're bringing up fever from the bite. You got to gotta get back to bed off all a doctor and he's like, I can go out there. You know great power member. Future little mix. Drinks. was coming future lil take a drink repower. No he doesn't. He doesn't say doesn't say power great power says I've got a responsibility. He Shark, cutting this. Lord Look Look Chad started now what they did. No problem comes alone you must whip it. Watching Peter, sway toward danger patiently waiting by the window seems like the story of my married life. Because people aren't writing me good right now. I'm not GonNa wait around wondering these alive or dead and she takes off. Oh my Lord do you think Betty brant did this on purpose to get Peter's attention? She doesn't she look the extra red headaches. She was a redhead a Brunette. She goes definitely most definitely a Brunette this. Into Betty that they never really wanted to get into, I'm just saying the signs of their veils rate background and they axed. That's my personal opinion. Because, yes, she's at the hospital. She wants to got messed up following a story and waiting for her flash. Poor guy. He's just been all around town and nobody really loves them feel warm and you say he's just the firm. Cooler fine. But. Meanwhile back at Empire State University the Science Building one of the ones actually open Dr Andrea Johnson Hematologist and molecular biologist. Can Be. Well, he knew what he needed. Doesn't hurt that she's hot Sorry. Glad. See You smart indeed full see. Remember that episode of burnt that was on on Big Bang theory. Buzinga. Little Munchkin. She. Examining something for more. Might be able to use them research but I don't ever want to see him again and he's like Oh sorry for that but it comes in more comes through the window. please. Do not scream. Breaks that's always a great way to start a conversation. Meanwhile, Peter swinging around almost misses a fly does miss the flagpole that ain't good. Flying, off a water tower. It's the ice. Almost falls off a roof and Mary Jane's following. She's like that's too close Peter. This is ridiculous. Aware, is it written that Peter Parker has got to kill himself in order to live up spider-man's guilt amazing fantasy. mazing fantasy film and everything after that. Yes. Comic, book. Girl. I mean, obviously, she knows the story he told her the story more than one occasion. Oh. Please four play at this point. I'd like that. So accurate action. Not In the mood tonight, we'll did you know my uncle died I know told me every every other day. but back more morgantown Dr Johnson I mean you no harm. My Name is Dr Michael Moore Mia said I've come off to feed but the seeker help. Oh I know about us your case let me down the road my research researches taken. Groupie. Land Connection. So. My disease is progressing the feeding. Mice hunger for shorter and shorter periods are can fill this again laid on the phone maybe I don't know. Exactly. All I need the knows the Internet. One question will you help me and Spiderman shows up the line of the woman more these you don't want any help you like what you are. Going to judge him Peter. ooh. You try to give somebody a second. Yeah I know he's still do last one is judge people because people are always judging him. Jameson. Exactly. That he opened his big mouth and I'm like, no. Peter I know alot going on here we'll member he is all. With an trip in for that by. About. This. More be as as. The blood and bones of. I cannot allow you to continue killing. The flights get into start oh look Sunday, the friends of humanity of foul Mary. You Ain't safe on this campus lady. There some heat how they think more like a mutant I'm track mine can't let a norm. We can't let it beautiful norm babe walk around at night while beaten freaks are killing people right and left. And on cue more recent Spiderman come crashing through the window. Mutinies. Again. How in the Marvel Universe? How can you tell someone has powers at their immune or not? Either way it goes you have power so you're bad why? Did you somehow oh? Yeah. It was like if they're against every superpower person, I could see that but it's just like we're going to. We're just GONNA concentrate on the ones who were born with their powers. It's like really. Different scene. Born different. The born this way. You. Now. He'll be mouton's are year or for everything now. So, spider-man Amorebieta are. Now. You can't understand the hunger that tries me ears is the craving. It is simply feed. I must kill this craving as the worst cream in the background hunting him. Seriously, I could see craven hunting mortgage. That's happened before remains an fake. I don't know. What are you saying Chad color coordinated outfits. Color coordinated outfits the Friends of Humanity Only Are they going all Batman Batman return or though the Dark Knight they are they wearing hockey pads Definitely then use. Users of Ice Skates in that a net cost you. But the Moebius gets them down is ready to Spiderman again but a the friends of humanity. Hitting more bees with baseball bats on sure that would work. The Friends of humanity know how to handle beauties he's not falling. Oh. Okay. Math. What is supposedly in the more movie? There's a craven Easter egg because there is a craven, a screenplay the has been floating around. ooh. Okay. Added that which at that boundaries? Because the friends of humanity he's not going down round what? Do I know so yes by More than you could chew. Kona. A. But yes. So Spiderman Trump's okay morpheus this is where I started out the. I'm sick I'm tired your killer I'm a good guy but I must he's a bad guy. But I I won't let him die thing and just kicks some vampire but. You're making me get all morbid. Again I hate that I'm actually a fun loving superhero. Really you'd love getting more. E and. He's GonNa have. Existential Angst, every other issue to announce too late Spiderman. If you'd let me call my hunger with this big, it's blood you would have saved her own life. To you, it's called me now. Back. I know so. Mary Jane You know get Outta here and she's like no, and he jumps in front of them stand aside woman. like see emerging donut. Shop Spiderman. I believe you thought her more BS are strong enough to fight the feast with which is within your mind and body. Strong enough to make the choice radio right now are you may once help were a monster that's Dr Chanson shows off Zell. With a bag of blood aw. So yes. Yes some worrying blocks away with Dr Johnson. And spirits piece don't stop them. You can't stop them because you got think man to the hospital it's your choice, and of course, the issue ends daily bugle headline. This was quick Spiderman and vampire attack es you campus is there a mutant connection? Waiter Stoke the flames boy wait let yellow journalism boy wages like. Tag Everybody. Enough. Spiderman Vampire Mutants. Are you sure you're not like the daily. Mail. Are you sure meanwhile page two's probably like why can't these like him? Why can't we get more? More. Heroic figures like these thunderbolt. All Right? So Issue Seventy nine. Private Dr Janssens problem used to a private island in the Caribbean. was basically doing something with machines while standing there in a lab coats and I'm assuming that's Bikini. I mean yeah. I mean that's what I look like the quarantine. No. Late he's wearing a lab coat shoes in a bikini okay. Yes she's being safe show WANNA get in chemicals on the Bikini true. I bet. He not like super issue. We're just. GonNa. But yet more be says in this machine like he's getting acupuncture There was a time I admired you. She say enough to turn yourself into this creature I began having nightmares where he played a big role. You really were having manners in Bikini lab of all. Now, I can't find room in my heart the PD another intriguing scientific puzzle to me. And then starts making out with the new villain on the block, crown? I can't for him here. Good Hail Hydra. Hundred service well and more Beasley. Lord and then back in New York met he's working all night at the people. T call because how many? Many flashes does she know that they had to put the the last initial? You know if you didn't get get it, they had the not. Hard enough to get taken seriously as best 'cause she's thinking about. Flash that people don't take her seriously a flash knows it doesn't helping started out as the boss the secretary. And then quote unquote war show in Eller. James comes over and he's like, what are you doing here? So late? I'm doing some research on the old Ese Science lab murder I'd be like which one. Drop that and follow up on the worby thing. I told you trump that on the mortgage thing but they says. Forget them both got something else and any cancer at folder. Runs into spider man unlimited where Peter under another country rescuers something. But of course, the next morning peters late again. McConnell. As Peter Parker would out by hadn't been bitten by that radioactive spider a few years ago. UNEDUCATED UNEMPLOYED. I don't I. Don't Spider Strength Agility and ruptured or funny be should've gotten been radioactive alarm clock. Could be best friends. Yes but again, it's another dizzy spell and he's about the fall to the street. but he gets caught by the new superhero on the block showed up same crowded shock. As H.. O.. C.. I don't see in the nineties kids. We either added Z. or took off the last letter. Elegant being dumb. Allow yes this tron looking do catch them. But he's like, what's wrong experimental fine. But the shock takes. altamont embarrassing rescued by the mysterious were here on the block. Maybe, I'll walk the rest of the way the issue. and. If we didn't get enough hydra. Meanwhile on Staten Island. New Crime Boss Fortune. Auto also works for Hydra. Brain they will. They'll let the Caribbean they brought more the fortune on his place. Bait and switch. Which? Hydrogen Very. Forgiving. Master. Oh. What is this a clone song issue a mysterious figure in the shadows talking Fortune Oughta. They couldn't help it. It was a long time. Bad. Habits being learn. then Peter. Empire State Oh look there's Mary Jane and Betty. At they betty. Loki. Passing Away Female Mary Jane. There's the whole thing going on in the background and they just kind of forgot about it. Appears like Trento, Paul ties for running out on her in the first issue and The looking cold until Mary Jane. Elbow. Zor Oh. Yeah. I forgive you Peter Marriage explained how you're distract deal with a fight gene. You had over some over pigheaded positions over the Stacey. Family. Besides the ship was going to interview bailing out on me. Burn lie? No but then she's just like but you can make up to by feeding my cat while Byrd Burn. Razor claws. Over phone loop bet even says that's right tiger. Siegel White. Male Yes. Lucia. Look your shows up. Neal Achim WHO has nothing? To, do shock. Pretty convenient with a bow. But Betty flirting with him because he's a member of landings research team. Ward and then look Fuchsias up Paul Stacey. We can all Ben Rally with a beer. Bring? Back. Mitzpe Rambo. What? What can we re Max Rambo? You remember. What? Houses Emmy we have betty doing nothing so. with the guns and stuff? Yes. Yes. Why not? On News Ninety thing. Bring up female punisher. Yeah, exactly. She can do only frank stealing I mean in the late eighties early nineties she was like half crazy half the time anyway went. For it. But. Yeah. After pulse, these Bombini jerky walks off the rest of them. Good at diner. Oh. Yeah. Petty said she's leaving because she she's had trouble for little storing Latte varia see. Spiderman, unlimited. Sixteen. Board than the buddies. Very. Hot Peter. Gets a disease bell peters anything she's just a little league can say for you. She's an old half A. Not. Nice all I didn't see this until now the whole thing with the flash note. Yeah Chad put. She has flash cards. He's going to be like what's going on. The Internet is telling me to suck it off. Just. A shooting pain in my neck and it's making me lightheaded. I. Wonder what that's from. And then the sky goes dark. STARTS RAINING BLACK? Stuff. Look, Hydra agents trying to look all nineties with hoods and stuff. In the ninety, he had no taste in clothes are TV shows. Also, yes. There after Neil see Peter with them. So they basically beat down pure and then yes, Neil reveals shock. Are you shocked Where you hook. Pocket Kohner. Shots taken out the hydrogens 'cause. Petersondean. In crown shows. You Kill my father indeed that I, it's not as simple as that. I was waiting. I was waiting for a goal Perth theatre here, but he doesn't. Think, but crown grabs Peter and says you. Two more seconds, guilty power and come with me. Say Goodbye to your friend appears to it. So Neil powers down they all go don't disappear. And then last page Peter Wakes up on Staten Island underground somewhere looks like owner they've. They've locked him in his cell with Morpheus. Thank God. We cincy those bites or else probably platoon to together. was more be just like, Oh, you're one of the thousands of bitten Noga. Much more pieces in next lent he. Survived. loon. Food. Me and hidden? Own Ward issue eighty. Is the title Really Blood Simple Yes. Yes, it is sir. Apparent. How? Do you know he's a guy. Although he likes to do things, I mean we're been better they will with what's on the cover. Title to your by Your auto biography death comes darkness. Chapter. The last one. Is the climax of the finish the whole thing off get it ooh. Nothing going on. Yet it. More. Concept execution not. But I, think it's from the film for like nights eighty four coblets simple. So It's a Colin brothers movie holly kind of a year for a lot of people who are in brothers. I initially thought so. Peters like trying to fight off Moebius Guards Watch and laugh. Meanwhile Meanwhile the High Fortune on the Hydra hydrogens are watching they're studying shock and a look, the mysterious figures out of the shadows. It's of course, it's sponsored FAIRMONT's trucker. Always the stalkers bonner other while it's hydra. So of course, it structure. On. I don't know why I don't know why they even like cute about it. I'm like it's Hydra notes. Know it struck her come on. My Lord Crowd Crown telling. Dr Chance and Hurry Darling Dude for me without your help I not have much time left. I. Know Crown I know it is for you that I sold my soul to these hydro devils. I don't know what's going on. Copy appear thinks he's not feeling as strong as usually as. But. Then yes. Takes off the guards and then yes, someone takes on. Again by Peter Again I don't know who you are white decided help me but thanks then he gets blasted to. Then, we see someone saying you know this kid boss nine. Must see my mug in the papers. The both of them see we can find out around this joint. And then yet dr chance and not you want everyone knows me and chalk says who are you? Everyone more be as Peter Shock against doctor dance and they all get captured and we see by them. An updated version for the nineties hammerhead hammerhead. Why didn't have to be hammerhead with a goatee? Nine, we're not kind sometimes. The Peters Thinking Oh. Might not responded entity breaking up plus the not here but shocks the one who busted I human being? But then the I tell you. Don't to Wack the kid meaning Peter Right here now fiddled sit down You think you can use your powers catcher bullying my look around there. See how many bullets there are. Generally speaking. What does what I'd fortunate want with you too yeah has Ought to be was thinking with two. I'd Fortune on. So. Yes. So they're all sitting around dinner. Get it but. His you try. Any harder. Could you try if you heart? So. Yes. Shock I guess agrees to help them take down crown in Hydra then they're like, yeah Peter on a part of this. So hammerhead tells his goons. Yeah. Why don't you guys drop the kid off somewhere? So they take him up to the roof and they draw try to drop them off the roof. Get it. For Peters like Oh, it's about time as he's clinging to the wall, I just needed them to say A. Swear to be. Worth. Yeah. So I was thinking of taking Mary in the kids out for Italian tonight. One with card says Italian. We always eat Italian. then. Hydrogen up in a big ship. Do this. That's the main move like if you're fan of empty you the you know that's what they do show up. Yes. So basically, the Calorie Yep. So we often basically comes down the hammerhead and his goons fighting hydro on the rooftops to shoot back and forth. Like. Sight but what happened? What is going? Like. You know there's kids down in that building. So he jumps into the fray. Shocks helping out. Hello protects US kid your head down kid he's like Spiderman yachts right kid out protect you from in the kid punches him. That's what my uncle pat away. Perfect. Uh. daredevil. Mary is you thought you were helping but she acquired. Peter. Still us to save the kid from getting lasted and then. Look at the size of the. Join the party Moebius to, snap in Hydra necks. Useful. everyone fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, eighty crown shocker going added than Peter tries to pull them apart. HAMMERHEAD shooting crown. Here. Concern is touching. Hammerhead speech pattern is very irritating. Not Wrong, accurately Exactly. So. Yes. So there. Between shocks, powers, and Spider Man's web shooters. They Stop Hydra from blowing up this building. Men at Auburn somebody get anarchy on the phone. summoned. SORTA watch the world bird bird. World Birth. Sent you. The battle ones in the explosion hammer heads back up. But he's like you say my tail and all my men were even next time you're toes. Some assuming more biscuits away but I don't think they were really see that. mattered. I mean, we'll see another thirty years. funke's. But I. mean that's kind of like selena bulky. It's kind of like on a like a signature Howard Mackie. It's like you know he pays most of the story. Good but it seems like Twenty Eddy. Seems the rest of the ending a lot. It's. Like okay. Everyone everything blows up and they go their separate. Perfect done. All right. So what did you think of these and they has got the short end of the stick on fortunately I think he's an interesting character like I know. I gave the movie like a lot of crap Lido. 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41. Nikos Okekuoyen - 2020 NBA Draft Prospect

Big Fellas Basketball

28:38 min | 4 months ago

41. Nikos Okekuoyen - 2020 NBA Draft Prospect

"Welcome to the big fellas podcast where we trap it up about all things past present and future about the game of basketball where facts. Stats and context reigns supreme blasphemous. Sometimes it gets crazy but we always keep it real. Always get ready to learn from players coaches and fans from all levels of the game and see the court and a brand new way and now fresh off the sidelines. Here's your host john. Hart oh phyllis what did you fellas and welcome to the big fellas basketball podcast. I'm your host. Jay h coming to you from new york city the mecca of basketball today. I'm excited to be joined by nikos. Okay comorian twenty twenty. Nba draft prospect. And a dear friend of mine. That i'm very happy to have met in new york right. Before the pandemic we spoke about nickel coming to america from greece as a teenager to play with the best high schools in the world. How dirk nowitzki inspired him to become the here today and why. It's always family over everything you've got to go and in store for today fellas episode number forty one nikos look at twenty twenty. Nba draft prospect. Yes and if you let us pass yes we're done begun on a gun at niko. I'm doing great man so happy to have you wanted us episodes while making to finally get to talk to one of my boys the biggest fellow i know for shirt. Yes syria sur. Sure sure. let's just get right into it. Can you kind of tell us what it was like for you. Growing up greece and playing basketball there. Were you always tall always good. What did that look for you. Playing basketball in greece was like a unique experience for me. Because i started playing because of my friends when i went to feel liquors at the time had a lot of lot of african kids basically when when when when you go there you felt like home for years for like like in africa like you see a lot of africa hooper's so the people you are talking like coasters. His liberal alex snively although the world knows them closest champion atlanta playing overseas. Explain so so we like hand got a lot. When i went there and talk a lot like it was like instantly like we bond and we're talking basketball so they they kind of helped me transition because at the time i'll just you know basketball was like the friends and all that so they'll be out of the deeper mice to bermuda thinking. Oh basketball help have me like changed my whole life. Fifteen sixteen authority was working. Is his head up to go to the league. I fin man. I was like yeah. I'm going to play to play to just me being around them. Like in training training within training with the brothers and all that all that all the environment make me realize that. I can do to and i can. I can make that that big step to the pros. And if i'm going to make it illegal not but just the mentality the had like i just got it from that to to to a couple things from them and like decided like just work my butt off rich rich as highest plus one hundred percent. It's great to have people pushing you like that. Have friends that. Have those same goals and make you realize that this is serious. I have to onto this. So that's that's awesome. What's it kind of like because the combo family's so big on family i right. We are all bros. That's their catchphrase. As they go by. And i whether it's a championship in both to celebrate that success with your brothers but also knowing that you have that support system when you really need it that you have brothers like that i i'm gonna say Basically is more like a culture thing. I say both greek culture both enjoy culture like families such an important thing for both countries especially like the gym culture families. Like number one when you see like the all boroughs and all that is like basically is like basically like just telling you that without your family. You can't do nothing you like. You like you successful because you have them. You have them supporting you you got you got to have your back no matter what are basically the may the message that they show and the and the in china like the people without family get be assist. It's great because it's not just a hash tag on instagram. It's it's a message that means so much more than that for sure for sure you were talking a little bit. About how basketball wasn't that big at the when you first started playing the game but it's blown up since then. Was there a moment in that kind of made basketball popular in greece. That really made you fall in love with the game into six team. Usa came down to team greets. Like that's one of the biggest moment. I remember like when i saw lebron james of dwight. Howard odors big. Young upcoming superstars like getting defeated from team greece. I was like damn man. Like i remember it. Like yesterday. Do i how i couldn't play big big officer shot out. Police man us dominant big guy. Big shot they will regional babysat up to up to this day. Man like i remember the first time i went to practice with my coats coach charis. He wasn't that squad that he played on the on how goosebumps. Y'all man i. I used to see tv man and ninety trading. Well that's crazy like i was. I was just like a little key. Likes me like a big a big a big superstar like when you start playing basketball you obviously got really good really quickly in the increased interesting you play against grown men as when you were much younger and then you came to the states and play against people your age and you tell me about what that was like and how. It was harder in greece. 'cause you're playing. It's older people men. Like i think that was the best thing that could happen to me. Lie and and i thank all my coaches for their. Because like i started playing with man like when i was fifteen years old when i started playing with men and i i i never liked it because i was like cheating like i couldn't do nothing. Thank everything i'd been. Everything i did was terrible. I did was was bad so when i go back and play with my age mate like i could see the difference. I could see me improving to see me getting better. I had like a mastectomy on the wayne giving him some advice until the world harden take the chances that code is going to give you now that the men's team and those keep working then after yannis came and told me being in the men's seems like a big deal like those be humble like stick stick with like those be able to go day. Go hart go one hundred percent. So that's what i did. So then after experiment plan with the men's team in and really developing yourself and and having that pressure make you grow. What was it like going to the united states which obviously is a huge transition of itself but then also playing inspire with some of the best talented high school basketball. I said go. I said before i finished high school. I wanna go through the stakes play. bolden go. Do you want the summer of brenna. Fifteen after the season was ending Again a couple of scholarship. I'm a couple of kudos than decided to go to spire. When i went to spire like it was such a unique experience. Like training like a limbic facilities have been coaches all day for different types of things like we have the strength coach condition. Coach we have an attrition as we had all so many things that i at my team at the time we have so just me being there and train and made it so much people from different parts of the of the war on meet people from spain from colombia mexico from all of a play. Sweden mania like like is such a unique experience like being away from your house and your family and making a new family through basketball is such a wonderful experience in. i think every hooper every baller. Every basketball player has has to have such an experience. I mean going to spire like the transition playing man basketball and going and playing high school for me was way easier so i wouldn't say it was so hot play But being in the states like it was so wild for me. I didn't pay so much like a patient like the the game. Like i was playing but i was like. Yeah man. i'm making my dream come true. I'm trying to do stop that. Oh the keys. Don't do like some people say that. Don't do something but they don't do it so me. Being there at the time was so so so big so like unique so then gigantic saying terms experience obviously made you who you today and when you talk about living your dream. You told me that. When i was with you january february march. You've mentioned that so many times. I'm living the dream right now. No matter how goes no matter how the draft goes on how things go. I'm living that dream by by chasing it. You're kind of chasing the senior. Living at someone in the end of the day is like what do you do. Dreams is not if you get a get it a little bit alert. People give chooses man. I don't wanna be that guy. I wanna be the guy that said i gave you all. I try my best and i either succeed either. I needed like. That's what i told you like. I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna declare the drought and whatever happens. Happens like hundred percent. I mean that's a great way to put it in terms of people get caught up in the product but they're not worried about the process. You put the process before the product. Which is what's important the product the product. Lotta times out of your control but you can control what the process looks like so now. You're back in greece things like with whether you're it's your current team your plans for the future. Now that you're there what's it looking like over there is is looking good Looking good like. I'm just trying to make a name for myself and like make the step i vision and now maybe maybe in the future. We'll get a call up in the national team been basically. I'm just working myself up like trying to build up a good name get pushed myself get better every day. If i said something if i send my mind is something. I'm i'm joe. i'm finish it finishing. I want something a little bit. Have done so i i sound i wanna play in the league men so one day. I'm going to be in the league. So if he doesn't seem in the league is that. I quit. But as long as i as long as i breathe in my heart is beating heart. That's my goal. I'm on being the league. And i'm going to get there one day so i just i just i just walking and just try to keep getting better every day. Can we go to a game and see that. It's definitely be a lot of fun. So niko i mean you had so many cool experience expired. You were telling me about whether it's playing with big rob playing against such great competition throughout the country. You're traveling as a high school playing all over the country against all these future. mba superstars prospects unit. You name it you. You play against some of the top talent in the world. Were there any experiences. When you're playing these. These guys were like wow like this is the level. I'm playing at and this have to my game and get to that level snow'll always say was the time that we played Putting them science academy and Hamadou was trying to dunk on me. From why zehr these like. I'm like okay. We just playing these guys and these guys. Are that good team. And i have this guy okay. This guy was like. I had like cameras like match. Prep like bullies live commentaries games. Some like i gotta play good so maybe against this is as is a spotlight. So is that so how. How do the al comes up. The ball like Take a screen from his teammate. Than the one on one with me on this week so he tried donkey me like i think from the free. Throw line or something like that. I don't like yo founded. He'd missed because well you see my face often be day on every Once than in histogram or tweet are everywhere it was. It was a good player. Then is these then. When i realized that i keep working harder i like focus on like all the other aspects of the game. Like both defensively ano- physically like don't just focus on being good in the offensive part and like a sluggish on the defense. If you wanna make sure position so that so no one ever done that. Whatever has the chance that you wanna make cheering position on defense and no one has the chance on you like that right. He missed those so in the end. Survived survived tells. The story about it is by us alive man off that point of obscene your career and up to this point. You've done so many cool things who's skew fan player of all time. Look up to my favorite players. Lebron james man. I see so since i was key in. Lebron james was the guy man and cleveland cavaliers. My favorite team. So i mean you show show me the picture when you met and obviously you told me about how great it was for you. What was that experience like meeting him in to meet you for the first time. A been the quicken loans arena in in cleveland after the game Yannis let me pass then went back stage you can say baxter's you can say that the waiting waiting area well he's a superstar rockstar for you so it's backstage. It's kinda like exactly exactly stove. Lebron james kids and wives so the game he game and like talk to his wife. Greatest like is signs and stuff. So i was next. I was i was just like next to them. So he sold me and said it was so big for. He gave me that up to the day like i. I went back to my room. I was like i'm gonna wash my hands for like ten years for sure that their any other players. Maybe that matched you wanna play style that you kind of always tried to emulate on the court for sure. Dick novitsky shane behind me. Man i dunno if you can see him you can see those fadeaway over there so with dirk like what. What is it that you like so much about him. And what did you try to take from his game. Man rich can make me a happy guy what basically digital which can make me love basketball because they are big. That does whatever he wanted to do. So soup what. I mean by that you you. You can't tell them bitchy just creating role. You can never told him that. The my favorite part of dig novitsky game is like. I saw versatile like he can shoot far from the basket close to the basket. He can play the classic big position. He can play the strengths. Position like his versatile. He can do so many stuff and like being in greece in habby. Like being such big dude. My coaches always had me doing the stuff that nobody likes to do. Some people may liked to do it. I'd like to do it. I never liked the screen growing up. I never liked to like take the ball on. When i'm down from the rebounds like a hit the ahead of that time. Like all my shoot. And i'll i'll be running for the rebounds. I hated at so watching. Dig novitsky being such a unique guy in the nba. People in europe like in the nba. Like having guys chasing his own rebounds that they gave me so many choose growing up as a kid and his place like the federal way the signature of paired with that. That's a great shot. I try to do people say i'm crazy for doing it by got working on it. He's game so it's a parisian is such an inspiration player for me. One hundred percent of them. I thought was interesting to was a lot of people. Don't know this about dirk that he won t made of the year in two thousand seventeen. The most people don't pay attention to now. When i the cool panels without a new is when you when you were my freshman you. We brought their energy so much. And it took me 'cause when i thought they'd meet you. I really thought about the basketball side of things where you were bigger than them and show them all these skills. Would you really show them how to have fun. And be a good teammate. And that those skills really rubbed off on them. So how important is that for you. Have that effect on people bro. Like i just think basketball days just game is this a gay man. Everybody between the four lines hustle be like having fun so basically that day i so bunch of teams that play basketball the wrong way what i mean by that. They play just to play. And don't play to have fun every time you step on the court. I think you must play seriously but you must see how fun so i was just trying to make them understand that in the end of the day. If you're gonna play if you're gonna practice if you're gonna do anything to do you gotta do with joy and with like happiness your car. You'll you'll heart. I'm not sure in the last time. I told you this was but they still call by the nicknames. You gave them kid. Thomas a really good shooter. You call them kyle korver. He still goes by that crazy. 'cause that game happened back in february. That's months ago but the impact that you had on them is still going on to this day. And it's going to go on further and they're always gonna remember. You is being okay. I had so much fun. Playing with nico all those months ago all those years ago. I always do that man. I was l-. Like when i when i step in court and i see somebody i try. I just trying to make him feel better. Feel better from yourself because she can go play better if he feels good. He's gonna be even better and if he won't any any just playing basketball. What do i need it sometimes. So what is definitely going back to dirk. As in terms of his career was their game limiting. Your favorite player was gradual thing. I think it was a gradual thing. Because i m b drizzle journey using so at the time. I was so young. I didn't know a lot of things about the nba. I just know. I just knew lebron james. Mj and some some a couple of players more. So i don't know. I didn't even know who digging bitchy was but i always jersey so i don't know i was like maybe maybe ten and i just looked at google so and i still couple of like i saw a couple of plays about him and i was like king nice that i've been after been after that like i. Just keep taking on mencia. What his game and story how he gained from the second division in germany and went to the states and bladed began franchise spare. I the first play do it. Then after yannis do the same thing like such a unique story such unique player. I was like yeah. He's my favorite player. It's so awesome. You a fan of him just for such a long time at and seeing his career progress. What was it like for you seeing his entire career culminate with winning a championship in two thousand eleven man. Bro was hard for me. Because like i guess the broad james yeah you say was stub. But i. I want to be honest. I wanna lebron thinks to win but doesn't just dig. Novitsky claimed waking the way he played like was such a mazes series. Took up sorta amazing so amazing. Where the data's my like Till the miami heat well up to this day man. I can never forget the lebron james and we were laughing because he said he was sick and the next game he killed them. He filled them. Bow out now and i was like. Yeah he knots in maitland. Komo dirk is nice. Nice for sure. So once i go see brawny. James and sierra canyon play against i was a crazy game and i remember i. We went super last minute. I called you. it was like niko. It's got tickets to go see this high school game now. Sierra candidates lou. High lebron james is playing over there in new jersey. We drove like two hours to go there right crazy. Superfund time but with a bunch of our our good friends. What was it like for you seen that when you while you're here in new york man it was like such a unique experience. I because we're a while while. I playing high school i never i never see like so many people come and see a high school game like just seen lebron james son the weight son in the say squad were like we will. We were actually ten thousand people. Say what are we gonna do today just going. What's high school basketball that we were witnessing the future of the nba boat. I wish like the future. The future guys are gonna be dominating. The league hopefully play and that was like it experience like fun trip driving two hours from new york new jersey getting getting experience to like see high school basketball. I find it was it was it was cool. Cool cool story in a coup experience heart man so a little bit about your draft experience. 'cause definitely unique going into office dropping your declaration for the draft with the pandemic. It was obviously much harder. Under those circumstances to even apply for the draftsman. You were still able to get it done. What look like for you my story even funnier and even even crazier. I remember the day that y'all john our december mo to the nba offices. But i'm not sure if the get it. So i asked atika a couple agents and the told me like you can just if you could get you could just go through that office and just leave it there. I'm like are you. Are you sure you don't you. You got nothing to lose. South like yeah. Let's go code. You and i was like yo. John go so your dad driving around manhattan trying to find a parking spot so we come down. We go to the nba offices back. Y'all we closed. And i'm like come live this year. There's nobody to the senate and the guy was like. Are you going to be them. Be dropped on like i don't know man. I gotta give this letter those. After being persistent he takes it. And hopefully everything work as planned. I did you. Aren't you ended up getting your name into the draft being persistent and going to the office physically insane saint please locally need you take this and let letter got to had to go. Obviously saw definitely be telling our kids that story for for years to come so nigga. What's some advice after seen a game from so many different angles and so many different countries and so many different ways to. What's your best advice for someone trying to do what you did whether it's come to the states and play basketball or play against play up in the men's division against grown men chase their dream and declared for the nba draft. Which is the most people. May that's a great question. Man like be patient and like more open-minded like listen to advice is like take advice i went. I believe when i was wrong. I'm listening to you. Tell me something. But i'm gonna listen to it by. I wouldn't pay so much station so growing up by the allies that every advice. Even if it's from someone that doesn't even know anything about basketball and help you so patients open minded open minded towards others and Respect more and be more humble humble. I mean like humbled like everyone like the when you're younger you good in in the of basketball you get kinda tired away and like forget like the basic stuff of being a cheap oldest gotta stick being a kid listening to others is simply have not that nice bologna on me. I fully support. The boys are predictable. That the toughen league. Jackie speier's are gonna make. It seem out make get the i go island i nine and gonna specific thousands of those isla got some after more money not only get to nami after nami gelatin yesterday. Had to come here for our. But but on apple cake tomato stigmas levy laughable gone. There must have now negative mcginnity film. That fell more those over. Does those not lips me after what is now number. This made reasonableness lemay glop. Chemin and all in. God is zoe. Philly data gobble. People died monday. Lesser hit the dipa. Or is na later about the on sorts on after move That money that. I mona gabe garcia. More knee. Only him only if they met many many alabama Videos star the phillipi after the hubble roussin. I'm wanna local morale on the. I got a bullied off after two gadhafi. Like atala great advice both in english and in greek for whoever's listening to really take that in and and and really apply to their own life so niko mandate that thank you so much for coming on. I mean we've been hope for a while so happened. Could finally do it. And i'm so happy that people are gonna get a chance to listen to it and hereabouts such an awesome person. So thank you time inside. Thanks for listening to the big fellas. Podcast check us out on all major social media platforms at big fellows pod to join the chapa. 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Climate, Energy, and U.S. Foreign Policy

The CSIS Podcast

23:14 min | 9 months ago

Climate, Energy, and U.S. Foreign Policy

"I'm Bob Schieffer and I'm Andrew Schwartz of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and this is the truth of the matter. This is the podcast where we break down the policy issues the days since the politicians are having their say, we will excuse them with respect and bring in the experts, many of them from CSIS. People who have been working these issues for years no spin, no bombast, no finger-pointing, just informed discussion. Today's episode of the truth of the matter. I'm flying solo as Bob. Shieffer is out of town. To get to the truth of the matter about us, international, energy, policy and climate change I have two of my favorite colleagues I have Sarah. lattice Lau who heads our energy program and Nikos Sophos who is a big part of our energy program to guys I want to ask you CSI. Recently launched a new initiative climate, smart foreign policy to spearhead work on US leadership on climate change internationally, what inspired the initiative? And what do you hope to achieve with it? Yeah, thanks so much for having a thon. You're one of our favorite colleagues, too, so it's always have a chance to talk to you, yeah! Yeah, so we launched this initiative called climate smart foreign policy for a couple of different reasons, one is CSIS is such a multifaceted organisation that thinks about security from so many different dimensions. You think people know that we're one of the top rated. You know, think tanks that deals with international security issues, but I don't think they always appreciate the breadth and the depth of the things that we cover and as climate expert. You know one of the things that I notice. Looking around. The center is like we're actually covering climate change in so many different programs whether it's on the humanitarian side or on. On the development side or the security side, or even the trade and economic side, because climate change is become such a pervasive issue in so many public policy and even private sector activities. We really are covering it in a lot of different ways. The big gap is the fact that the United States does not have a coherent policy for dealing with climate change and part of that is because it's just a very divisive issue. It's a more divisive issue among elite policymakers than it is among the American public in general and fact, and that's something that I think of public. Policy Institution like ourselves should. Should be able to help out with. And so we launched this initiative for a few reasons one. We wanted to highlight all the good work that's going on in sis on the issue of climate change, but to we really wanted to find ways to overcome some of the challenges related to US engagement on a consistent basis in quite frankly taking a leadership role in thinking about climate change, and so we saw a number of opportunities to do that first and foremost, if policymakers or foreign policy, people tend to think about climate change as something that they don't understand something that people in the climate community. Community understand, but really what they need to do is start incorporating that into the way that they think about their own field. So for example we've got some work going on in the trade program. That's looking at the entire global trade agenda is up for grabs. It's being rewritten well. How do we put climate change priorities into that agenda? All of our alliances and security arrangements those are being refigure one of the big issues that everybody's going to have to deal with including the United States is how we deal with impacts from climate change, and so we really think that we're in a great position. Position to be able to help on a bipartisan basis, think about how we craft a more durable foreign policy platform from the United States that thinks about how we deal with climate change in a more robust way. Sarah is there real energy in Congress and in the administration to do things on a bipartisan basis in this space. Yeah I think there is anything in. It's become a little cliche to say oh. Republicans are interested in trying to find a way to say yes to climate, but quite frankly I think a lot of what we've just gone through in the cove, nineteen, pandemic and unfortunately continue. Continue to go through is a lot of policymakers realizing that they have to think strategically about what's in the long term interest of the United States and if we always known that pandemics could be a threat in that, we perhaps are not as resilient as we wanna be. We're not preparing for them. Well, we'll climate change is another very large threat that we know is not only on the horizon. It's here and now with us, and we're really not prepared, and so by broadening the conversation away from just can we meet very stringent emissions reduction goals by date certain, which is usually where most of. Of the conversation is, but to. How do we prepare for all of the things that it changing climate means for our society for our security forces for how we think about our economy, you actually allow for more room for people to get involved in. So what we're seeing is by broadening that sort of approach you allow for entry points for people who may come at this issue from a different perspective, and that does tend to energize people along a broader political spectrum Meka so I wanna ask you in a similar vein year program thanks a lot about great power competition and its relationship with energy. And you recently released race to the top, which is a report that outlines of new international energy policy for the United States. What's driving your Certian that the US needs a new international energy strategy? Well, thank you for having US Andrew. The short answer is that the world has changed, and we need to adapt to that new world. The world is changing in lots of different ways, but our report folks on four big changes, one is the United States, is now a large oil and gas producer the largest in the world, so for the last forty fifty years we've set up policies, institutions, mental models, all geared or premised on the fact that. That the United States is the largest importer of energy the largest consumer of energy well, that's no longer the case, so we need a strategy that recognizes that the united. States starting from a very different perspective. That's one. The second is the energy system is changing fossil fuels oil gas coal there still dominant in the energy supply of the world, but they are being increasingly supplemented by renewable energy technologies, solar wind, electric batteries, electric vehicles, and so we have a diffusion of this new technologies. Of course you have the imperative of climate change that the energy system is not only changing, but it has changed even faster than it already is. The third thing is we have growing recognition that this liberal democratic capitalist system. Though we all assumed the world was going to converge to well, the world isn't really converging to that and point, and so you have rival economic and political systems that are not only emerging, but there are thriving, and they're posing a challenge for the United States, and lastly you have economic competition now. Obviously economic competition is not a new thing, but you have to things that make it feeling. You one is the united. States feel less sure that it is. Economic, competition, I mean you look at this country than anything from economic inequality to the pace of innovation to the ability to provide for the most vulnerable parts of the society. Hi, healthcare costs one can go on and on. You have a sense that you're not really winning and in the past economic competition. It was always with allies. You know it's one. One thing to argue with West Germany and Japan in it's a whole other ballgame to argue with China to think about what China means in, so you need to have an international energy policy where you don't think like it, consumer an importer, but you think as a producer you don't focus exclusively on fossil fuels, but he think about renewable energy technologies where. Where you're not thinking about, how do you shepherd this world towards agreed upon liberal capital assistant, but you have to contend with different ways of running an economy, and you have to do this at a time where you feel less secure about the economic position of the United States, these these other countries, and so all these things mean that there's no turning. Turning back to the old because you have to craft a strategy that begins from a totally different perspective. There were the united. States has started over the last fifty years so I wanna ask you along those lines Nikos. We're about to happen election in November, and if there's a change in administration or whether this current administration gets reelected, what would you advise? The next administration is again whether it's donald trump or Joe Biden what would be the first thing they need to do to engineer a new energy strategy. The way we thought about this is there are two components to an international energy strategy. The first is you got to be competitive at home. You just really cannot hope to lead the world in energy in climate if you are not at the forefront of technological innovation, if you are not the most competitive you can be if you are not really at the forefront of the new technologies and innovations that are gonNA power. Power what the energy systems going to look like in twenty thirty years. So that's want pillar. The second pillar is to about. How do you revitalize this multilateral system that we have spent seventy something years building up, and not just saying a wouldn't be nice if we went back to a world that no longer exists for. How did he give it a new purpose? And this is what Sarah was talking about. If you think about what global challenge can rival climate change in terms of its breadth, its scope, its ability to touch everything that we do around the world. And so one of the things we talk about in the report a lot is how do you infuse climate throughout the system hard? Do you think about what is doing something on climate mean for the World Trade Organization. What does it mean for the IMF? What does it mean for the Food and Agriculture Organization soon and more importantly one things we've said this isn't about creating new structure the sin about creating the world climate organization. It's thinking about what each organization out there is going to do in order to help us cope with this new world and. One of the key elements of that strategy is you gotta make the multilateral system safe at a time where the big powers may not get along with each other, you cannot have a system where if the US and China and opposite sides nothing happens. This system won't be able to accomplish much, so we see a great role for civil society. We see a great role for private industry. We see a great role for smaller groupings that one move along faster all these lonely flourish if you have leadership from the United States and so you know, there's a domestic component that we can get into, but on the international, International. Front, the key thing is to think about the role that climate can play in revitalizing and giving purpose to an international system. The we have set up after all these years, and frankly sometimes seems to lack purpose and vigor and climate could be a new mission for Sarah. Let me ask you about the domestic part of the strategy. What do you think? I, agree with Nikos, and maybe to be really pointed about it, you know we need to speak to the US political system where it is, we need to stop waiting for power of wishful thinking. Right that all of a sudden everybody's GonNa come to the same place and agree that climate change needs to be the lens through which we think about all of our interactions on energy like that. That will be true for one party will not be true for the other for a while and so one of the perspectives we took. This approach was right now. The United States is on the precipice of in a very dangerous and damaging direction, which is to take a look at competitiveness around the world and the energy space and to go. We need to compete with Russia and China. China the way they play right. We need to go compete with them in third countries and try and do this foreign policy tit for tat, and it just doesn't make a ton of sense, right? We're talking about protectionist measures here in the United States to keep them out of our supply chain. All of that's fine when it has a national security imperative tied to it the problem that. That we see. Is that the United States is not trying hard enough to just be competitive like if we want to win something we have to try and right now we have an absence of a strategy, and so we were really moved by idea that the US is at its most powerful, and it's most effective when we try really hard to do something that's in our own national. National Self interests, but also has benefits for the global community, and so we think this idea of a race to the top has to fundamentally start with the United States deciding that it really does want to compete in the way of new energy technologies, which is what Nikos has talked about all these people complaining about the way that China unfairly subsidizes a bunch of industries that we quite. Quite frankly are neglecting. We don't give them enough money for research and development. We don't put the policies in place to make sure that those technologies make to market, and we just have this sort of magic wand called the free markets that we hope is going to make some sort of a decision that will yield us to that outcome. I have no idea why the states has such. Such an aversion to trying to talk about a strategy that will actually allow us to compete in some of those technologies that Nico's listed, and so we actually starting when we look around the hill and we look at policymakers, they're all endorsing some component of this idea of us being more competitive and having a strategy, it's just pulling all together and saying Nope we're GONNA TRY WE'RE GONNA. GonNa, decide which technologies we think we can be competitive in. We're going to put really big money behind innovating in those technologies, and we're going to try to deploy them not only at our market at home, but also try to sell those technologies abroad, and we have to do it in a way that previously would probably have made our politics a bit uncomfortable, but today it's just A. A reflection of the reality of the competitive rates that we're internationally and I think as Nikos had mentioned the benefit here is if it's a race to the top right, it's a race to improve better technologies that are better for the environment that are better for dealing with climate change. Then it's not a destructive kind competition. We could very easily get into a destructive kind of competition where. Where we both lose the efficiencies of a Free Market System Anna Globally traded system, and we're not even trying to promote the kinds of technologies that we know are where the energy system needs to go. We've got to figure out how through a US competitive stance we can try and create that positive, dynamic and international competition, and it's not a coup moment by any stretch of the imagination. Imagination. It's really saying we want to win, but we've got to figure out the terms under which we compete I wanted to add just two brief comments on what is said to amplify them. One thing that really struck us as we were doing. This research for this report is when Congress reauthorized the US. Export Import Bank. It gave it specific sectors and said Xm we want you to. To go out and make sure that US companies overseas are competitive these sectors, so we have a process where we've identified specific areas where we want the US to be competitive, we want US exports. We want the government to support companies in being competitive and one of these striking is that you know this list stops or starts at the shore, and it doesn't have any impact in domestic. Domestic Policy so you've identified sectors where you WANNA compete overseas, but you're leaving untouched the domestic market in terms of how you deploy these technologies. That's number one. The second thing that we think is important that we try to highlight in the report is restricted development are indeed so import. The US should've spending more money on our indeed if you look at other sectors where the US very. Very competitive. It spends a lot more on our, indeed than it does in the energy space, but are is not enough at dinner the day we've had a lot of technologies that were founded the United States, but there were deployed overseas why because those markets where welcoming to those technologies more welcoming the United States was you know it wasn't the shale revolution in started from the Department of? Of, energy, but it was very expensive. Oil and gas that brought that into the market. The market sort of gave a price signal, so you could come up with the best thing in the lab, but if the market doesn't allow for that development doesn't allow for the technology to be developed. It's going to stay in the lab so sometimes. We have a market strategy and market structure. Strategy! Strategy that undermines what we do in the lab and we need to think about how those two things align with each other much. I want to ask you both why this is also hard as it because climate change is such a big issue. Is that why it's so hard to get a cohesive international energy policy strategy to get the US all on the same page, so we can. Build allies, and we can build relationships and weekend pursue a strategy such as you're suggesting. Why is it so hard? Yeah, it's hard for a couple of reasons I. Mean I used to say in a climate change went to this place that you don't want to be you know you can't bring it up at a cocktail party without understanding what kind of cocktail party you're at? That's not great, right? That's the sign. A public policy issues was gone to a bad place. I think that fundamentally one of the problems in the US political system is zero thinking. Right if one party wins. Wins on an issue another one loses and quite frankly it's our own detriment. Folks in the private sector understand that this is a settled issue. They understand that this is where the energy economy is going. They may disagree on the technological solutions, and they may disagree on the pace or the policies. We need to get there, but they understand that it's the direction, and so I think it's really an area where our politics are keeping us back for making sound policy. The other thing I'll say is it does seem to me that the United States doesn't really understand it a very. Very sort of core level. How industrial policy works within the United States? I mean we have lots of places where we pick winners and losers or incentivize different technologies and systems all the time. We just like to tell ourselves that we don't do that. Just because you have a plan and a strategy doesn't mean that you can't have free market competition as well you just have it within a set of guidelines, and so this is one of the advantages that being at a non-partisan think tank. You get to say stuff that other people don't necessarily want to say the truth of the. The matter is we just need a strategy and we need to start dithering about not putting together but I think it's hard because people have these notions of things that government should do or should not do, but they don't recognize which government is already supporting a bunch of different kinds of industry or the way that we utilize energy, and we've got to be careful, because it's starting to be to our detriment not to realize that we do that within our existing policies in frameworks link. I agree with everything else said so. I just wanted to add a couple of points one. Is One of the challenges when you think about climate and specifically the energy dimensions of climate is you need to make a switch? You use energy in one way, and you need to switch to a new way and the problem I think for the United. States and it's something that's become harder in the last ten years is because of the growth in US gas production. It feels like you're being asked to give up your ace. It feels like you have to trump card. This really valuable thing that your big producer voile and gas and there's a sphere of cod why? The benefits of this while at the same time. You're asking me to go playing this game which requires that I give up essentially eventually I surrender the benefits that I get from being a big hydrocarbon producer. That's a really tough thing to do, and it's one of the challenges that the United States face. The second challenge is SR said. You know you have to think about the areas that you want to compete and I. Think there's this fear I don't happen to think that. It's a well founded fear. But there is a fear that in order for you to pull out these technologies from the lab and put it in the marketplace. You can do this by making energy more expensive and undermining the competitiveness of the US economy now again. I don't think that the evidence suggests that this is true, but it's a real fear, so you have to find a way to show that this could be win. Win that you can find a place for people that are losing to find your opportunities, but you. You can also make this transition away. That doesn't undermine the long-term economic competitiveness or the United States guys before we go I gotta ask you. You've got a brand new podcast out there and I see it's already climbing the charts on Apple. So can you tell us about the new podcast? Yeah, absolutely, thanks for the Plug Andrew. It's called theories of change, and it's meant to be a forum for bringing in lots of different voices of people who think about the challenge of climate change but from. From different perspectives, you know some people think this needs to be a small are revolutions on. People think this is a technological evolution. Some people think about this from a environmental justice perspective. Some people think about it from public policy dimension. We're just GONNA. Try and bring lots of different voices into the conversation so that we can show that while we may have disagreements about the path from here to there. There's lots of people engaged in trying to find productive ways forward. Our folks don't miss this. This podcast. It's hot off the presses. It's got great art work. You can find it on apple, podcast or anywhere you listen to your podcast or the website. I've heard it. It's terrific and I fully endorse it and I can't wait to hear the second episode so good luck to you guys with that and I can't wait to have both you back on truth of the matter to talk more about these issues I always learn so much talking about the show. Thanks, thanks, Andrea, thank you. If you enjoy this podcast. Check out our larger suite of CSI as podcasts from into. Africa, the Asia Chessboard China Power Aids Two Thousand Twenty, the trade guys, smart women's smart power and more. 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Ep. 32: Meekness Is Not Weakness

Get Real or Die Trying with Amadon DellErba

11:37 min | 2 months ago

Ep. 32: Meekness Is Not Weakness

"Finding your strength and power in relation to finding your meekness and humility is in needed conscious. Choice that people need to make this the duality. i filled. That exists finding your power and finding your meekness because true humble power and spiritual power these meekness there is no weakness the association that all this making our minds must end between nikos in weakness. Nothing you do matters less what you do matters. I don dillard in this real or die trying. Welcome to episode thirty two. Today i'm talking about meekness is not weakness. Meekness is a highly misunderstood concept and it is almost used exclusively in spiritual and religious context. It seems many people mistake meekness as weakness but it is not the same at all. Meekness is an attribute of human nature and behavior. Meekness can also mean to be righteous. Humble teachable and patient under suffering meekness has been contrasted with humility. As referring to behavior you have towards others or as humility refers to an attitude towards oneself. Realizing this for me was a very helpful thing because it is about how you treat others you see the psychology and emotional actions of being a person of peace is about being meek and is about how you treat others you see being other oriented and being interested in others is a basic tenant of any supposedly woke spiritual person. I feel meekness. Means restraining. one's own power so as to allow room for others. Wow what a powerful concept. What a worthy pursuit. I can only talk about this concept. Because of my desire to become more meek. Not because i m meek i want to make that clear a true spiritualist sees striving for higher levels of spiritual awareness like a mountain climber. Sees new peaks desires to climb them to conquer them will a large peak in my life. That i need to start. Climbing is the peak of meekness ended is likely peak in many people's lives. The apostle paul gave an example of meek behavior been writing to timothy. He said the servant of the lord must be gentle apt to teach patient in meekness instructing. Those that oppose themselves. Sir thomas. Browne explained in one of his journals. Meekness takes injuries like pills not chewing but swallowing them down to me. This indicates that meekness allows a person to overlook or forgive perceived insults or offenses. You know it's almost become a fad today to be easily offended assist the culture wherein meekness is a controlled shrank but in my pursuit to understand. Meekness i have come to the conclusion that you cannot truly be meek unless you have some type of personal relationship with the creator he see in its purest form. Meekness is strictly a spiritual attribute. It seems this is because you have to sacrifice your own strength and power for true meekness puts everything in the hands of god. It's founded on a trust of something bigger than ourselves. Faith we see grow alongside humility wisdom in that it seeks another person's interests at the expense of our own and it's peer peaceable gentle and open to reason this should not however be confused with cowardice or weakness or being a doormat that people can just walk all over. Meekness is not being afraid to stand up to someone rather it's having the courage to trust in the creator to trust in the spiritual process to unfold to surrender in his book the core of the twelve apostles the l. d. s. l. David benner wrote. Meekness is strong not weak. Active not passive courageous. Not timid restrained not excessive modest. Not self aggrandizing ungracious. Not brash person is not easily provoked pretentious or overbearing and readily acknowledges the accomplishments of others. While i have a lot of room to grow in that area and what a great definition of meekness from that. Lds elder you see. We see examples of the power of meekness. I believe in david of israel's life before he was made king. I feel several times. He had the strength and power to take the throne for his own and yet he rejected the self desire and waited till he was anointed till the time was truly right. He quieted the whisperings of flesh submitted. To the calling of spirit. He had patient submissive humbleness in therefore he was great in his power. He had patients something. I lack tremendously. I mean i can hardly wait five minutes from my coffee to steepen. The french press this morning. Today's society is the opposite of this. everyone is encouraged. To take take take and push push push we have an entire online world roars against the attitude of meekness. You do not hear that you should sacrifice yourself desire for the common good which you here is pursue your selfish desire at all cost claim your power self this self that self help self empower. It's all about self and selfishness but meekness is directly related to self control. Meek people truly have self control weak people lack self control completely from the ranch book. Jesus said you do well to be meek before god and self control before men but let your meekness be out of spiritual origin in not the self deceptive display of self conscious sense of self righteous superiority. Jesus also spoke these words in the book. I m indeed meek and humble in the presence of my father but i am equally and relentlessly inexorable where there is deliberate evil doing and send full rebelling against the will of my father in heaven. He was a next rebel which means essentially impossible to stop a force to be reckoned with relentless in matthew. Eleven twenty nine. Jesus said take my yoke upon you and learn of me for. I am meek and lowly in heart in ye shall find rest onto your souls in l. the scripture doctrine and covenants. Jesus also said learn of me and listen to my words walk in the meekness my spirit and you shall have peace in me. Understanding meekness for me has been a great mystery. They have not fully committed myself to the important process of pursuing more meekness in my personality. But i can say that now. More than ever. I wish to be more meek. I have suffered the pain of not being more meek. In many circumstances that i should have been and i have caused pain to others. Meekness is a great in very high spiritual. Attribute should not be in archaic concept of the past. It should be a prevalent and present pursuit. Everybody wants to be an entrepreneur. Ceo or influenced her while. I truly want to start being a man of meekness. And i have the confidence to withstand the ridicule and misunderstanding. That may come with that. I had the perseverance to keep trying. As i know i will fail many many times and make a fool of myself but i have the self worth to keep trying. I may lack the self control and self mastery is dry for right now. But i won't give up the pursuit decline that peak and truly that is because i have the assistance of my spiritual teachers to guide me to help me to aid me. Teach me into refined me starting with my very own biological parents gable of you rancher in neon emerson chase. What a blessing it is that my parents are actually respected and honored spiritual teachers so not only do they naturally parent me like any parent would but they naturally helped me to ascend into higher levels of the meekness i so badly desire finding your strength and power in relation to finding your meekness. Humility is a needed conscious choice. That people need to make this the duality. I filled that exists. Finding your power and finding your meekness because true humble power in spiritual power is meekness. There is no weakness the association that all of us make in our minds must end between meekness and weakness. So make the choice. My friends make the choice to walk in the quiet gentle strength that is truly emboldened by the power of having god consciousness. True spiritual meekness is true spiritual power. Thank you check out my website. Get real or die. Trying and dot com. Lead me a voicemail and anchor dot fm slash real or diet trend rate and reviews on apple podcasts or any of the platforms. You listen on be sure to follow me Social media and share this podcast with your friends order mouth is a great way to share the vibe get raillard died trimbe amazon as a production of global change media and remember. Pain is temporary. Victory is eternal.

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Feel Good Habits | Ruby Hammer MBE

The Emma Guns Show

36:20 min | 10 months ago

Feel Good Habits | Ruby Hammer MBE

"And, It is so lovely to be looking at my friend and colleague, makeup, artist, and brand Creator Ruby Hammer. Really I'm so well am on. It's really lovely to connect with you, and it's lovely to see your gorgeous face. You'll wonderful voice. Because I normally see you. It's like a smash and grab an event like. Whoever you quick catch up and then yes, yes, let's get something in the diary and then. Like gets in the way thought he'd be said. That's another one of the positive. Things can thanked lockdown for at least I've managed to down with you and you say. It's good well. You're brilliant person to have them feel good habits because you're always incredibly upbeat. You are incredibly optimistic. and. I. Say just think your quiet leveling person to be around like if I have ever seen you an event and I've been stressed. You are the person who he can just put a hand on your shoulder and just say okay. Awhile. You've made me sad like Mother Teresa I'm no I think I. Ought to fat. It's just. The HMO I'm by I'm not fake humbling myself, but I am fifty eight years old. I'm going to be fifty nine this December God willing and I think with that even if one looks youthful or has a youthful outlook and demeanor. Resides behind their than experience behind man and I think the most. These everyone just looks at somebody. Will we'll do that. Somebody superficially and you think. Oh, they look gray fit looks play or wonderfully musty arrive. People don't realize that with all of us human beings. It doesn't matter who they are. The most beach food, the most powerful, the most talented, thus rich. Nobody, hundred percent knows what somebody's getting very do not to win, but they look like is not the same as what they feeling or how they're. Responding to whatever's out there so at the end of the Jerry I? I've had my of what's broken. My heart and calls me hardship, husband and I. realized. All those bits. CRISIS SO WHATEVER DILEMMA TRAUMA From small thing to a big thing that comes in one's life and I think this idea of realized it comes in everybody's life. It's not necessarily the same thing for some people. It's a financial thing for some people. It's a house. Want some people who our magic law. Their loved ones so some same physics cool. They're running from ozone. They're doing this. They're starving. They're worried by. How else do Mayo? God I was talking to my game. And now it looks like I'm slipping all over that every human being on this planet from the day they belong to the day. They're GONNA leave it I'll going to face. Some kind of dilemma trauma programme so in the end how we faced that. Our Own Perspective of how we address. That is what's GonNa save US tour and hopefully all of us want to. Face it head on the bit of integrity with a bit of compassion says they don't lose yourself. You suddenly lose who and what you believe in just because you've addressed it and that you can still look yourself in the mirror failed you-know-what onto the best I could there and I've learned from La next time. On Gun to do better, or when somebody else faces that you're able to be put their hand on the shoulder like you said today though you know. It's all right I. Had some of that not. Only sympathy but empathy and neither somebody did that for me once. And it took me. So I have got to do that for someone and if you just put a channel if you see a new light human beings in general. If you genuinely a people person. or You love animals. Terrify you've got love in your heart. It comes out it comes down. Some people are not very easy to say or show it or whatever, but that doesn't mean they don't have it so as long as you can tap into that. Some people are able to do it easier and I. Think I'm one of those, but that was just that was my pillow knock. Didn't fight for. That's my internal dispositions. I'm very grateful for that and I have a victim awareness. The people who might not have that naturally, so we just have to suck everything else. You show somebody You're to take the time. Tell them we'll show them. It makes us all. Better, doesn't it? Yeah! You're my. The moving one of my bic lessons is it's just that. Your own perspective. Lucrative from your point of view from your experience as the newly days and That's the first way you could address anything. Whether that's Lecomte. Brave to Oh my God, Mahal spiking. Ham I. You can get from A to B panicking undoing the subject that as long as you. Address that and you'll sell. Than you can do it outwardly. Whatever that tastes know whether it's a spot hair. What do I know about how to tackle spots? To. Oh my God. I've just started to start up and. I've got to some lovely doors or guy. And all those off Dole's nationwide. Hog Nikos Shop. How am I gonNa do that now a k.! Thank God I have my website. Let's say for generates themselves the VAT. Without being insensitive. Guidance about seven. As long as we do that, we can cut but anything. To us just to. Look Fhimah perspective. On, that did what feels right to you rather than looking for someone else to give you the answers. To because that's how it's going to fast. He's got to make sense to you. Hasn't it said that you can relate and know that? Yes a shoot. Stay does not just because I'm safe, but actually I need to protect somebody else embodying all end up protecting myself, and they must be vulnerable people the. Circle that event the people did that and we're going to be saved that kind of thing so the ice out. It has to make sense to you, and you take the baton, and then you deal with it. Is Lovely Like that. The PEP talk I'll be replaying to myself in of NEAT. To myself to. It doesn't mean you know. I'm not highly the now. I have to play that to myself frequently. Because and that's the good thing about you as well. Life is never a standstill. It's always. Life and time is going forward. You can reflect on what's happened in the past you can look at where you are right now and worry about what's coming, but at the end of the day is stops, so no one it's always moving. Low second was never gonNA. Come back. To snickers, befalls also never gonNA, come back, so you have to. Do that with a B. and just keep looking ahead. So you tell yourself again and again it's not love her. Not Say you have to reapply and use that. All the time will the tie. Well. That's a good life habit, but so let's get onto your good habits. These are the things that you can implement you. Wake up in the morning. You not feeling when I when I started this particular franchise I. It's that feeling you get when you wake up in the morning. You just think. A rollover no face the day or and I. Know that we've all felt this way. You feel that you're trying your best, and you're just making absolutely no headway and you've got to keep motivated because the anyway you're going to get to where you want to go is to keep trying. You're just getting the reward that maybe you want. So this is what are your was your first field habit a kind of making sure that you don't get sucked into a bad mood or a feeling of? The world's on my side the first thing I did an island last summer gentleman and I found him you know. On Youtube is. Garage and he's an Indian Guru and one of the things that has stuck with Mason slack have across. It was the first thing he says. It's when you're lying there. If just, what could not you know your eyes if? You literally need to. Take a breath. Touch yourself for yourself. I'm alive. I'm well. I'm breathing I didn't die. Millions of people didn't make that morning or didn't make that time. Then if you're lucky enough to have a partner. whatever reach out and you can feel their breath because you can feel it won't person in the breathing with a white did not. They're ready to be grateful for thoughts, Let. Fuss thing to say. I am actually right and that's A. and. Take a terrible. Is Joyce in nine? Not Jumping fifthly alright, and then from there you slip out of bed and. I take. I go a ninety. One sounds really ridiculous. I clear idea, but if tongue brushing, so that's the first thing I do use a turnkey now. Number of bacteria that night that ball. And I take vitamin C.. Thousand Miles of it in a little glass of water, and the Brandon using his alternate side. It goes straight into your. You should take on an empty stomach. So that's my physical putting vitamin C in Man I've done that even before. Or anything like that 'cause it's skin. It's good for the on. It's just balances you'll meant to physical. Yo got all of that, so it's just a simple thing do that. Then I. These physical things, but the first thing is not touching. On much right if you con-. Realize cherish water, big thing back as you kinda. Throw the rest of your full good things out the day on Ebay so you may be trying to do them feel, but not really realizing. mechanical. Physically. I'm okay, so now. What we're GonNa do to feeling better than I. Think one of the little things. Head to toe is dry brushing. With a natural bristle brush, and again you started if you woke up with is it's not just a PT, thing. It actually detoxified vettix. It gets a blood going in a way that. Maybe I'm lazy that can't do jumping Jackson. But doing as for my feet just two minutes all the way up to stimulate your limb gets the oxygen blood going. To, the plus points are your skin will feel better. You've got so Cosilino. feel it doesn't take it away, but it just feels nice. It looks a bit better. I think it's one of the only. One of the only things you can do this. Actually been shown to have a benefit on cellulite like. Yes yes. Once in every three years. You've got to do it, you could, if you do it I'm telling you. The right. You. Will you will see their benefit in how you feel because it just especially under your arms behind you. You know you're growing your knees. Your ankles limps. It just joins. There is an uplifting feeling and strike after you can have a shower, and this is the other thing with the drive rushing i. think it's really important to if you're able to take a thirty two minute. Thank second to eliminate coal shower. Preaching to the converted reading they. Got For people think Oh. That is freezing cold winter, but I'm telling you that. The cumulation of those two I think is is really really good. That's a very simple thing you can do. And will set you up for feeling good. Now that we've got hotter days ahead. You might want to do that in the middle of the Diana. Could. It works I think it works? I think he was yeah. Are Dry brush most mornings, not every morning I. IT depends if I did it before. I work after I work I've onto sweaty. Then I'm not going to use my driveway, Russia. But at the end the reveries shower I and I follow a guy could Wim Hof. He's amazing it has I yeah. I lost myself and idea I tend my back to the shower. And I make hits me on the back of the neck, not head and I stand there and I try and do that T- seconds to a minute. And at the moment is obviously she say a lot easier, but it actually it's that thing of like bracing yourself and breathing in and out and breathe. The actually despise everything up yeah and sometimes I scream. The winter. Screening screaming. Screws. Carries, all of that like. Once you've You've come on. It's like excise euro. good passer. Julia on should do A. Lot more I died but I know how I feel. Once I've done it, this is. This is easier to this is digital. Diary. And it does it does make you feel good with numbers. It really does without costing money without doing anything. Putting hopefully does have a boss. Michelle it doesn't match away. You just and you can turn it, you can. Get to that freezing cold. insteps don't have to do it initially just as long as you turn the water to go lower than the woman that get A. CODA stop. Equilibrium is done. This remember to turn the tap back onto so that when you get into Mara. Oh. Yes, that's the first thing that jumps on your head. You're right. Right. What else have we got because that's burn starting the day? Are you going to take us through the day rooming? I well that that's what I do, and then again is depending on time and now. I would then do my meditation. I have learned to meditate from. I think he came when when I was going through my divorce. Which is your nineteen, ninety, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, ninety, nine the time. And just spy I was so. Can Unlock a headless chicken that my mom, who was alive at the time was You know they were ruled out. What can we do for her too lightly? Va any of this, and that's when I tried to do so again. I had a a guru in India. They put through the paces and I. Just do it so much, so some people do visualization. Some people just think just even lying there. Trying to control your soul, just being in the moment, center, and hone yourself a little bit of calm, and do not while I'm Murat Chatterbox quite loud because. I'm slightly. I think realized sunny in the last. Five or six years I am actually I was I. can't I'm death not on hard of hearing or something but very low. Sounds plot the I? If if my back is turned and you were talking to me, I have difficulty. Just haven clearly what you've said. And then imagine for that. She is being a photographic studio with the tweet blasted out on way. Lose a little bit of your hearing so all of that. It Means I. Talk a lot louder neces-. People people shut the on my God. Could this looming actually calmed down for five minutes? Take or and. Sometimes. It's so much noise going on. I'm not able to calm down, but I still go through the motions, and that wasn't a particularly good session but I. Still Try to do it because it does have the. Information and documents in studies too shy that it does, and I think it does, and I don't beat myself. When I'm not able to have the most perfect experience, just go through the places, and sometimes I don't even know sat their range as soon as she did not sessions. Out to go to work. Luck honesty I find that reconnects you to yourself so that you can listen to your gut. You can have flat bit of compassion. You can process what the day! Has Thrown at you. Is just is like I. Don't want to diary. Some people say that helps you like but. This is my diary taking? Is just analyzing. That was a good day. Not died not uncommon. Now let's go to bed to lars at the day. Yeah, installed that a fine, not a very very powerful tool now and. With a side slash, I'll say that. If Somebody It's not a religious thing, but a spiritual or just know that there is a divine stronger power out there than you'll yourself. Just, sometimes, a of that connects. I've lost my parents now. So that gives me five seconds I pray for their souls. Say Way you all is a very difficult time. Here should should make sometimes mom John blessing handle may look Hatfield Grondona under myself. Mice Look at for is cap for that new calf. Everybody out there because you guys are not in the physical world anymore whatever you can do that there for all of us here, not just me personally everyone do it. Mom and dad, please or something I. It's a little bit of locker. Meditation, strike prayer or asking for something from something stronger than us That's all any survivor. It's the power. Don't say as a Muslim. Personal Hinchey celebrity sausage just. There there is a creative divine outlook energy. Tied to it. And I use that meditation asked that. Just two topping to both to give yourself a boost, lucky file boundaries the down some conscious, always dead. have to charge it. GotTa have to learn how to charge meaning. You need a charter to Tuck into. A power point. It drained down energy to research yourself. And if your recharged, it's like they say is really. NAFF, but you know in your plane and they say put your seatbelt on on when the MOSS comes down. Put Moscow fast before you do a kid before anybody else because you're not good to anyone kill. searching events at that it's like that I look. They give off. The whole thing went. Yes, yes. That trusting something else because I do believe like. I believe entrusting myself by relying on myself, but I. also there is also that thing of trusting the decisions you make. And I will be supported like going in the right direction, and so there is like trusting yourself, but then I know what you mean I don't know what I call it I! Don't know what it feels looks like, but I know Figuring this neighborhood. Yes and I'm not saying you never rely on yourself. You have to rely on yourself fast. That's why we doing this. That's why you're asking. How can everybody feel good? Because the same method is not going to be right for everybody else by having all these people on board, somebody will pick up something for me. Somebody might pick up from somebody like Massey that you've had before or somebody will pick up from whoever. Times. It could pick up from yourself to say Oh my God. I said that I should be atmosphere. Now will pick a bit. Hey, bitten, so that's that's one thing that you have to boast I you and then it's just using something to boast of yourself. Yeah Got It right? I'm excited about what you're next photos. Well. I just I just feel feeling, so my something like. Everyone knows. What is when it feels good to do good? said it might be a physical thing of like I got a because people ask me because of Betamax lot is so will ever. Had to keep. McCain might go. Do Do you do that? On just say doing good feels. Get it whatever aspect that so in the physical thing I have. A very to ever happens, but more time. I have more elaborate skin-care regime when I done. The basic is proper. Cleansing exciting hydration said knowing that is a good thing to do for me masking. Then it means are concerned. Address other things. I just put it in that song so if it means. Do that for yourself the data if it means. A off. Shoot! Definitely do that. Have a you know I meant to. To put some money in that go for. That that fun though. To Smile. On just a my actually, keep him on face muscles. My Ball too small doesn't custody thing I do so just knowing doing good. FEELS, get. And I think that sounds other. If it sounds big to not be Bambi, but not ball it works. I need to go drink that good that Green Jas. I haven't got any nestle to some. Because when I drink it I feel better. And then. Is skit. To doing good feels good. So I I wind in maths is not specific to just doing. Osias done my skin care of just put moss going around done something to sunset anything that as It may be. Put Off. Bringing some Monday? Oh God! It's really difficult. I hate addressing. This thing might come up A. Big Bold enough to do that. And you can you off done? Put things off like man in my have been the OH. My God I don't know. What do I say to now leftists along? The liaison his campaign, but the fact that you're doing it now. It's good. Only good will come of doing good right and facing things. Yes, good advice his best. Yes, what type of that is because? It could be I was in Iraq. Panic before I'm sunk tech savvy even before doing our podcast, but I realized I took a breath and I thought. Of got to, this is really good our today. This is how we're GONNA, make it right so I found mild. Steak has mild. Is that what you have to do? You make your happen. Yeah, doing it. I just think doing good. feels. Escude. We bring it. I love it. I like it very much and I agree I think. Sometimes I like especially in lockdown I think. It could be so easy to think I'm going to do that today and I have to stop myself at like for example. I had a bottle of CIDER in the fridge. To date about three o'clock. On my reading Chairman Reed of Sandwich reading of two at the moment I'm going to sit and have inside or raid. And I went literally had the out the fridge went to go and take the top off and I thought this is a bad decision, because even though in the moment I, it's GonNa feel incredible and the sun in the window when the Cherry the going to be lovely, I've got other things that I need to do. And therefore this is actually a negative thing I'm doing right now and I can do all the things that I need to do and enjoy this moment in three hours when I've ticked off my to do list starring indulgent. You say. Is that little bit of taking stock man for somebody else that leash. Thank Oh. Gee, were. Boynton often strong enough to just just override that indulgent moment of knee-jerk reaction, but some days. You might not be strong enough to do that and if it wasn't, it's it's. You could just talking because I'm awesome. People that just con- bryce. Bring themselves to rise to that that I. Think one of the worst things you can do is feel guilty about it to you know. If you're GONNA indulge today. Just do it indulge. Don't beat yourself in the head because that's not going to bring it back and feeling guilty is also worthless. It doesn't do anything. To be that removes, have it? There should or shouldn't have done that. OCCA-, but now tomorrow. I'M NOT GONNA. Fall into that trap. And then deal with it that way so. It's yet again that sort of evaluating for your cells. What you did that tried to be superwoman. Unknowing Oh my God I had a moment of weakness. Topping yourself on the back yesterday. Actually did did good. I. All phase reinforcing the good judgment. And not killing yourself when you haven't done quite what you should have done. Bugs K yeah. So. It brings me to my night. Marshall's somebody's just. have. An open channel compassion. Whatever that taste for yourself like I think we're very. Not just as swimming, but as Caretakers wives sisters do whatever we all. We've any compassionate and willing to do lots of things for others for those we love. Our friends, our loved ones, though all of that and the law passed a lot bucket list of compassion. Is Yourself so if you go to find that bit of compassionate and you're giving advice to. Subbuteo genuinely not thinking. What would you say if to that person? That wasn't year, but it was you. You need to do that for yourself a little bit. Of Land after a long long time because I used to think almost John you're not unlike. Show a little bit. Just a tiny bit because management we we. You feel dumb by when you did. If you friend, but you go the extra mile for the where you do. Something not So. Where the last one you drop libertad when it comes to yourself. Not Selfish. It's not think it's good. Happy to learn. Because they will make you feel good anthem from youth feeling. Good again. We repeating it will. Enable us to tackle. Whatever else is out there? In whatever way? Away like. Now, we've not just got the corona virus. Look at all the rioting and all the things that are going out. About. Racism and all that and. Just snapping tone deaf. That's a bit of compassion new show out there for the bigger picture. Also need that today feels have said that you genuinely all she self that hard you know, how sometimes you really tough with your friend that you really love that you want to. Call them and you tell them you do the of humor a bit of this, and then sometimes you literally got to to shoulders and say I'm saying this 'cause I love you. Now 'cause I'm trying to sabotage you. I'm jealous. You makes my life easier whatever. On Tang that from the date, love and Mohawk because I want the best thing. Will you have to do that yourself as well sometimes to certain is not an easy course. But grapples at. A. So I don't know whether the things I'm saying to. You are not easy straightforward things today, but I'm thinking. If the headline is to. That bit of compassion. They're bringing it down. To whatever aspect of your life at that mini is a? Should exercise new thinking will not actually should. Now lay should meditate now. Actually she tonight actually should put that some protection on your head or no. Actually I've done it to our my. Are Can sit down and have that gossip signed in. Hooking. A. Not, a rocking chair review, but maybe it should be whatever I. The sound. So that was made me my bay and Also, I have to say the slight tasted delicious at sunset. Was that your final one with the. I if you up-to-date at I haven't kept count. I didn't if you had anything else specific because I think. We. Just been grateful, just been grateful. Within yourself to to. To really know, it could be a as I said at the beginning of this, no one knows what somebody else is truly guidry Mohel than how it affected them. It may be that somebody thinks we all right. You're safe, you're not. You're not sitting in refugee camp somewhere and wondering I'm GonNa. You know, said yes, but everything in. Perspective be. Grateful for that, and then you will find a way. With whatever that immediate thing is. Wants to panic. His I won't Just take a breath. Nine right? What can I do? But I really like about these habits. Actually, that's been consistent with all of them. Is it quite inward? In a really nice way in a way that it's not. Read this book. use the APP. Which? She Poverty? I I have read those books I have. Read the books and tried to go to the APP and try to find Oh. What will me meditate better? There are things from a friend anti. The had space on. Twelve that gives you the search of. Sound Meditation the Union had fans under, so I have all those chosen plucking. What do they all today is to help? Bolster the sound. So that's what I'm saying. If we all do that inwardly and like you said that reservoir. Has some credit in it. You knew it outwardly you can. You can do ahead of lovable then trying to just run around like headless chickens trying to be everything to everybody else. Yes yes, this is very true. Ovary this has been lovely. Thank you, also. I just thought wasn't to. Head in the clouds, but Really is on having Austin. Law Fuck. My husband says your local. Boy Your lack of. Your like a ten year old boy inside that, and then sometimes you come out with asked us what he thinks. K. A ten year old boy with the energy also silliness says there is also though she is have come in this is. Found to in my life, and it's helped me to an I hope if that works for anybody else. It would be amazing and I'm really not to give me the chance to. To talk in a very open Mala light, it's about eyeliner. Be a million. I mean is unknown that opportunity. Thank you our, you're always. You're always incredibly welcome, we. Can't can't even remember the last time I met you. I know I would have been absolutely. No because I was one of your customers before I met you? guys ago is true if that long ago, I can't pinpoint chip, but I know that I've always nine years. So that's yeah and I. Hope that continue tonight united. We can do this in another format. Whatever always? We will all thankyou movie heaven I will. I will share your links to you because you've got lots of luck. You've got your products as well so I'll put those in the show notes, and you know a true story. I honestly used to spend my money on products that you made before I got into the industry. I love that I loved them and I literally loved them so anyway, so there we go, so you? Genius I'm so put the links to you and I would obviously if I will maybe get some of the names of the people that you mentioned the Gurus to put it in the show. Thank you very much, thank you. Emma, take care.

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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 219: V Wars Season 1 Episode 6

GSMC SciFi Podcast

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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 219: V Wars Season 1 Episode 6

"Golden state media concepts side Fi podcast. Together. We dive into the World Siphon Science fiction from APSOS. Star walk the walk. Resident Evil all the. Science fiction movie from the factor marvel or DC golden state media cuts Sifi pipe gaps. You'll never put get science fiction the same way again. The. took. Steady Brought to you by the GMC podcast network? I'm your host Alex. Today. I finished watching the wars for the second time with my best friend. Although of course, it was her first time. And really enjoyed watching these last few episodes together, she was so bummed that the season was over. And that effectively the show is over as we are still hoping to maybe get this show renewed at some point, I know that they have said that they are not going to renew it, but in summer halder and crew have expressed excitement to still pick it up and that they are going to try to get that done and many different ways so I don't know if we're potentially looking at a web series or what? I just know that net Netflix did not pick it up and that he is trying to find some alternatives to that, so it might be the last of viewers, or it very well may not be you never really know in this new era of television, especially with all of this covid stuff going on. This show is also an excellent allegory for covid nineteen, and in my opinion, it really has the total package of these topical, scientific and Socio Cultural and political issues that are occurring in Modern Day America. So I, would like to see more events especially as they continue with this plot as we find ourselves in episode eight, which I won't spoil just yet since this is labelled as being for episode six of Season One. So? Today we're going to talk about season. One episode six at is called. It's not enough to heavily involved. In this episode, a lot of people I. And I think that the fairly par for the course for V worse and that folks will continue to die in this show at even faster rates as the vampires exponentially spread the. Disease Around and folks with those specific genetic markers for being avert lack where being. A blood, which is the type I think of as being ripper vampires like from You know think a vampire diaries. And how Stephan once he starts feeding. He just has trouble stopping. Not all of them are necessarily like that, but they do tend to just totally kill the person, whereas the vertical acts can get the individual addicted to their venom, and feed off of them in a more paced manner than a lot of the bloods tend to now in our last episode, we did learn about the genetic component behind folks turning to bloods after they've been exposed to that preowned disease that. That originated in the biomass that was found at the Arctic Research Station Theresa found that herself, and showed it to luther, who immediately told her to encrypt that information, and to hide it, and not tell anyone because he no longer trusts the government, and rightly so in this scenario and world that they live in. He has been shown many time now that he cannot trust them to follow their word. They are not following through with that and he is even seeing that. Claro. O'Hagan didn't trust Nicklaus. So Luther is finding all around that. He cannot trust them at their word that there's no use really bargaining with them. He knows what they'll do. They get this information and he genuinely views everyone as being sick, even though this is a full EPA genetic change in their bodies, and so in that way. Luther is afraid that this is going to turn in. A type of Holocaust really. The blood these folks who he deems to be sick. Even if they don't necessarily want to change, then you know they're embracing who they are as individuals, and as Michael Puts is a new species, and even if they're not technically a new species altogether, they are at least the new apex predators. So Luther is. At his core, just a good man in general, and so he doesn't believe that they should lose their lives, even if they are feeding on other humans and are killing them in the process, because he thinks there's definitely an alternative and that if he can find the answer before the government just starts killing people for it that he will be able to perhaps save all of these individuals and prevent folks from drinking blood to begin with. So in that manner, Luther and Theresa decided. They're not gonNA. Tell anyone about what they found and they do know though that there are some genes that are associated with becoming a vampire if you are also exposed to that. Biomass show. If you're exposed to the disease, and you have certain genes or a certain gene at the specific locus of leave, it was the h four seven gene. Then you may turn into a vampire or rather. They've established that you will turn into a vampire also at the end of the last episode, Luther, shot a guy who had been sent to kill him. Luther did not think he had in him. Him when he was handed, a firearm DNS it's but when push came to shove, he was able to pull the trigger and kill the guy who bobby the crazy guy who everyone is a blood sent to kill luther her, who was told rather to go ahead and kill Luther, because Luther had seen them slaughter everyone on board, the bus who had been rescued or captured in Dana's vampire nest her Vertibrak Nest. So. He's not really happy that he's had to do this for. Luther, I'm not quite sure what type of doctor he is or if he has multiple degrees. A lot of folks do go ahead and double major in certain programs for their JD and their masters, or even in their later post, doc degrees or their doctoral degrees, so it just really depends. Does Luther perhaps have multiple degrees? Maybe I mean, he seems to be focused primarily on biomass in epidemiology when we first start out, and he's talking about climate change in the first episode, but then later on, we see him to treat people's wounds, and assessing the damage to stuff, and it seems kind of implied a point that perhaps he was in Doctors Without Borders. So I'm not entirely sure what it is, the Luther specifically does what he's really a doctor of, but it could be multifactorial, or he may just have this niche research interest as well. That has turned into. We different career paths for him. I, know one of my friends advisors in her graduate program her doctoral program he studies bones and human migrations via advanced statistics modeling to really tell us about peopling of new world like thousands upon thousands of years ago. And he also studies. I want to say bats, so he is a physical anthropologist. He studies humans, but he also has a niche side project that he's just generally interested in. He's just fascinated with how these creatures work, and even though it really doesn't have anything to do with physical anthropology, he is super into it. Another one of my professors is very into studying pedagogy be methodology and philosophy behind teaching and different methods of teaching to maximize how effective it is for students and to improve their engagement and retention of the material. So, that is more related to anthropology, but he just strictly is really into that and serving as the. Of some of our anthropological societies at this time. One of my other professors went and did the thing where you stay on a slab for NASA for like nine months we had to lay totally flat. Maybe it was three months nine months i. don't remember anymore, but it was one of those longitudinal studies where they were checking that out with the human body, and that is related to physical anthropology, but it's also just something. That's a little, wacky and interesting. It's not just something that you do for the lulls. It's both for the lulls for some scientists and. For Science in and of itself, and also just for the experience I do not know what it would be like to have to do that for an extended period of time, but one of my professors can tell you because a lot of folks steady different rounds of these side projects, too, so even within their sub specialties, they may also have side topics that they are interested. Then I'll have anything to do with it, so I'm not sure if that's what's going on with Luther. But maybe I'll just have to start back at the beginning and see what type of doctor is so watch it again for more of a deep dive into the details more than just the narrative focus. Who knows we will hopefully find out I could probably just google it really quickly as well and figure out what type of doctor he is supposed to be. But I really liked the character I. don't mean to be disparaging in any way. I had questions after watched it through a second time. We are going to go on a quick break and when we come back, we're going to talk about how Luther is at the beginning of this episode, having killed a man and potentially violating the hippocratic oath that he may or may not have. Taken depending on what type of doctor he has. We will be back in just a few moments. WanNa find out what movies to go. See and check out the. See movie podcast. It's your ticket to the latest movies whether it's a new blockbuster event, romantic comedy or action flick. This show has got it all covered. They talk some what to go. See now. Don't bother. What's hot on Netflix and everything in between that's GMC PODCAST DOT COM back slash movie dash podcast. When it's all about the movies, it has to be this new show. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GS MC podcast dot com for more INFO. Just. It's. Were discussing what happened last episode, and so liberating upon what type of doctor. Luther swine may truly be is looking into a D. Miala g aside specialty. Is he trained as a medical doctor, or is he more of a doctor in epidemiology or immunology I'm not sure what exactly is going on, but I like that he does take a holistic perspective to studying these issues. Issues. He's aware of the sociopolitical ramifications of letting the government know that there is a genetic component. He's considering the climate change aspects, too. So Luther is kind of a well rounded guy, and he's also a good dad, and that's where we find him really at the beginning of this episode, and being worried that his son. DEZ is going to turn into a vampire. Luther still doesn't know if DEZ has that. H Four seven Predator gene as they're calling it now and. Luther is really making tentative plans to get him theresa and as out of there, and they are saying that does has an abscess to as a medical cover to help get them out of the facility to go get medical treatment and then really run off and run away from the government. We know that recently. A likely had Claro Hagen killed, and they've not been really great honoring any of their agreements with him to this point, so he has every reason to believe that Dez could be an imminent danger. He knows they were willing to kill Michael Fain before an Michael's like his brother. He's already had to kill his wife Jess when she turned, and so this is put him at odds with his brother at has jeopardize his life, and the lives of those around him. He's afraid of what might happen to his son, and he still doesn't know what's going to happen to his brother, but he knows that he can't trust the government to keep any of their agreements, and so in that way Dez is not safe, and neither is theresa because they would try to use her to leverage against Luther to get him to come back as well. So Luther has very clearly thought this out, but you know he's also a super bright guy. Or if he has his doctorate. If, he is a medical doctor. He's smart guy. He considers a lot of the different variables and he learns from his past mistakes. So. He's going to get the heck out of there. And he finds out as the episode goes along. That does does in fact. Have that gene? So does is deteriorating and his condition in seems to be getting a lot sicker than he was before, and since we've established that folks who have turned into vampires have this gene. Luther is really just waiting on what he believes to likely. Be The inevitable as a scientist, but as apparent. He is hoping against hope still just because does. has this gene doesn't mean home? Necessarily turn and as a good human who believes these people are just sick. He's not willing to condemned as either way, even if he is a vampire, he still loves Michael and he still unafraid. Michael's going to hurt him. After his initial shock of finding out Michael was a vampire, and thinking that Michael might turn on his wife and get. Luther got past that pretty quickly. Just like he seems to have with his death, but you know he has a law going on. He's just been car bombs and stuff to see. He doesn't have time to mourn for his dead wife. Really he has to worry about his child, maybe also turning into a vampire. We know from past episodes that a lot of times. When these folks turned into vampires, initially, they can't control their impulses or their blood lust, and so that's really also a problem because Dez can be handled. Right now is kid, but if he is a vampire child, then he's going to be a lot stronger and have a lot stronger. Not necessarily reflexes, but almost like superpowers, so that super hearing super census in general who will be stronger than he was before and could really hurt a lot of people. Including Theresa and or Luther? So Theresa and Dez end up sneaking out to go and contact one of Luther 's colleagues. Dr Per Mucci and it takes a while to get to where he's at, but Theresa's determined to keep does save, and she's worked with Luther for years, and she is very familiar with does this is a kid? She's probably watched partially grow up. So Luther isn't able to leave with them right then, but theresa goes ahead and takes Dez to doctor. Per MUCCI office. Once they get there. It seems really quiet for a regular doctor's office in the middle of the week, and things seem a little bit off, but they're able to find Dr and the office and he takes does back to have an exam, so we can see that does is definitely sick and he is sweating a lot. He just looks like he doesn't feel very well. Poor baby, so doctor per moody is thinking about it and he's like know. Maybe you should go to a local clinic. Her DEZ is recommending they should go to a local clinic and does is really quick on the uptake and so theresa. Is like okay. Will you know maybe maybe we will go ahead and go to the clinic? Because after the doctrine leaves them in the room together, she goes through a lot of the cabinets and stuff, and finds a bunch of blood bags around the area that have been drained and she figures out that. What's setting her spidey senses? Tingling is that promoting is actually a vampire, and she was right to question how slow they were in the middle of the day, and how there is no one else in the office except for him when they arrive. So Theresa has does run, and he's super sickly at this point, but he does indeed take off running and escapes, but per MUCCI attacks, Theresa. Biding her throat, he is not avert. Lackey appears to be a regular blood, the ripper type, and he bites her throat and just sucks out a ton of her blood. I was so upset by that because Theresa's one of my favorite characters. I was very excited to see this bright young female scientists, kicking butt, and finding out all of this information as they went along, she was incredibly bright and also had a good heart. She was willing to take Dez even knowing that. He could be turning into a vampire on her at any point, but she's just dedicated to getting this kid the help that he needed getting him the medical attention that he needed, and that's what also makes me think that maybe luther is not that kind of a scientist or that kind of doctor, because they're both standing there and Theresa is not able to help him either, and she's supposed to be. Doing the equivalent of an academic apprenticeships for Luther, so that's kind of what you're doing when you are in a PhD, program and stuff. It's less about the program itself, and it's more about your mentor specifically, and you spend a lot of time just doing research, and not really actually being in classes, a lot of these programs only have a couple of years of classes, and then you are doing research, and that's for a regular hd, not an MD.. But, it doesn't seem that they are able to give him medical aid themselves, and also they're saying hey. He has an abscessed tooth, so we need to go and take him out of here. So I'm not sure exactly what's going on. I would imagine if Theresa were that type of Doctor, and if Luther were that type of doctor, then the Diaz would have been like Nah. You may not leave you guys. Can both definitely handle this or luther? You can handle this, even you already if you even if Luther is the only one who already had his degree and his license, not that I. Think DNS would really give a crap about that. We've already seen how shading. But even if luther was that type of doctor as well. He should. have been able to help with that. It's kind of confusing the things that kind of. Make Him Due at certain points I'm a little bit fuzzy on it, but that might just be because I. Miss Something. Maybe Luther D- really does have a dual degree, or something has an MD and a PhD or a very specific side specialty. Your sub specialty that Theresa isn't necessarily qualified for yet or perhaps doesn't share that entire interest. I know that when I. I was in graduate school. My professor had specific interest related to Paleo anthropological remains, and that really wasn't my thing so much as forensics where I didn't care as much about the deep time stuff is I did about the more recently deceased, and that's totally fine, because he also did work on secular trends, so how people's body parts specifically bones change over time. And that was really interesting to me because we could see it over several hundred years over thousands of years and stuff, too, but I was more interested in that, and how it progresses, whereas he was also very interested in just looking at these ancient populations and looking at their bones and going okay, this is how this person walked. This is how this person lived. This is what they probably did for a living or to survive based on this quirk in their teeth, and this thing that's going on with these bones in their body. It's very fascinating, but it wasn't something that I necessarily wanted to look into myself. And that's okay. Because we had a lot of shared interests, and at the base of that was bio mechanics, the science of how human bodies move or how living things move, so he was applying it to like the gate, analysis and stuff of Paleo individuals and I was applying it more to modern individuals and to trauma research, which wasn't so much is thing, but they are both based on the same principles, and so we were able to both study that and just extrapolate that data in different ways, but still under the realm of physical anthropology. Or biological anthropology, as it is also known today, and as being referred to more frequently so I just say that to give an example of what may be some of the similarities and differences between Luther and Theresa. But also I just had a couple of questions as the series progress I still enjoyed it greatly though, and I encourage you to continue watching even if like me, you were also super bummed about Teresa being attacked. We're going to go on another quick break and when we come back, we are going to pick up on where Luther is in the midst of this great escape, and what Kayleigh and Jurgen have been up to stay tuned. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close, and here's this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here. Less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast cupboards from news, sports, music, fashion, hooking entertainment, fantasy, football, and so more so stop alerted around and go straight to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build that podcast. Whatever it may be, visit us at www dot Jesus MC podcast dot com follow us on facebook and twitter and download on Itunes, soundcloud and Google play. ME. Of? We were talking about Theresa taking days out of the DNS. Headquarters the S. compound. I'm not sure what exactly to call it, but the building where they were staying in with DNS were where they were being held captive honestly. And Theresa took him to Luther Friend Dr but they quickly found out that he had already been turned, and he attacked Areso while Dez escaped. Luther was unfortunately not able to make it out with them. Though and K need close tells luther that he'll help him escape. If they can go ahead and get. General May replaced so luther has this shady ally in Nikolaos because Claire, O'Hagan told him he could not trust him at least that she didn't trust him so this alliance with Nikos is not necessarily a great idea. Nicholas was really one of the reasons that Luther was trying to leave. But just because Luther knows that Niko shady doesn't mean the Nikolaos needs to know that Luther knows that losses shady, and this may very well be his only. Real way that he can get out of here, so luther is going on with this alliance, and we know that Luther doesn't really trust this guy, but. Sometimes you just gotTa. Hold those cards really close to your vest and do your best with the situation and the hand that you're dealt. So in that manner we have. Luther still stuck at DNS. Compound while Dez is out there somewhere. Running from her MUCCI, but Dr Per Mucci seemed pretty focused on. Draining Theresa of her blood, so he's likely not following does, but there are exponentially more vampires out there every day, so in addition to Dez being vulnerable to them. Because he's sick, he may also be turning into one of them. So this is a very dangerous situation. That Dez is in no matter how you look at it. In the meantime though Kaley though. because. Who runs the website? Reva leaks has arranged to meet Nikolaos. Because you're again, has hacked into their computer systems, and Kaley also totally believes that knee close is who planned and executed the murder of clear O'Hagan. who was played by candice, McClure? And Katie just really wants to nail this guy for what he's doing. Keighley's not necessarily motivated by good, but Kayleigh is motivated by knowledge and and information, and she thinks that everyone has a right to that information. She's upset that the government is trying to repress or actually suppress a lot of it, and so Kaley is out for the knowledge and the dissemination of this, so she agrees to meet Nicklaus and takes Jurgen with her in a van to make sure that nothing happens, and she goes into this abandoned building. Honor owned meet Nikolaos, but he's a no show. So after she's in this building for a little bit, she goes back to the van, all angry and frustrated by what's happened, but it's Jurgen doesn't respond to her, and it turns out that the whole thing was a trap. To Kill Yorgen so they shot him in the head while she was in that abandoned building. Granted, probably wasn't Nicos himself, but it's still super shady, and it really just reaffirms for us as the viewer that it's very well is the most likely candidate for who killed Clare O'Hagan and that he also is not to be trusted. When it comes to Luther, he'll turn him over to whoever is the highest bitter or whoever is going to get him? The most results, so he's not above killing people. He's likely not above torturing people. He wasn't above leveraging a child to make sure that the father did the work that they needed him to do even if he acted like he was nicer. We see that Clare in this case was kind of hard nose, and she came off as being not overly cooperative her really not that cooperative at all at first mcclair did have an open mind, and she ultimately did trust luther to try to bring in Michael his way by keeping him safe and cleared didn't send the sniper out bear. Nikos is who sent the sniper out to follow Luther when he met with Michael out at the lake were they used to fish, so they're kind of the inverse of each other Claro Hagen and Catholics close. Clare seems to be a lot harder and unyielding than she actually is, but Nikos on the other hand seems to be a lot more genial than he truly is. And fortunately we know that Luther doesn't trust him. And we see the definitely should not even if need closed is right now his best shot for getting out of there because he's just orchestrated the death of another person. And, he didn't bother to kill Kaley this was just a jerk move. He is punishing her for still revealing that information after he let her go based on whatever arrangement they had made together so that he would not kill your again, and so he went ahead and killed Jurgen because she very clearly did not follow through with what they wanted, which was to stop covering them to stop? Stop covering this information and spreading it to the public, and as much as Kaley, has acted like she doesn't care that much for your again in an emotional capacity or romantic capacity, we clearly see once. He's gone that there was a lot that Kaley really left unsaid, and that she may have perhaps even indicated to the contrary about how she felt for your again. She is really. A pity me of still waters run deep, and she was not ready to alert. You're against wasn't comfortable enough to let your again. Know How much she likes him or how strongly she felt about him, but she is absolutely distraught once he has been outright murdered as ordered by Nikolaos. We also have Jimmy Saint still out and about he's our FBI guy played by. Michael Gray is and he has been undercover in bobbies gang. So, remember bobby is the head of this motorcycle. Clubs Slash Gang and bobby does not trust Jimmy. He thinks that Jimmy might be a blood slash of empire because Bobby thinks that everyone might be a vampire, although monster totally was a vampire. We've also seen bobby just kill everyone because he doesn't understand the science of how this works, and so he's just deeming everyone to be a threat and for their lives to be less important than his is what it comes down to part of it is. He's on a lot of drugs and he seems to be a little bit unstable. Lot. Bit Unstable, but also bobby just doesn't really care about people's lives, so he doesn't understand that they're not necessarily going to turn, and that's why he kills them all despite Luther, telling him that they're sick. And that they were just murdered that they likely weren't going to turn, because he doesn't really value any lives, he didn't value human lives and he doesn't value. Blood lives, so he is down to just go ahead and kill everyone. So now that bobby no longer trusts Jimmy Jimmy also has a target on his back slash. Head I duNno wherever bobby decides, he wants to shoot somebody which could be pretty much anywhere. He's not stable. Bobby decides to tell Jimmy that they are going to promote him to a full fledged club member by giving him one of their gangs jackets with the. The emblem on it I suppose I about said branding. It's not entirely branding. That's not necessarily what it's meant for, but it is meant to be a recognisable symbol. Civil go was emblem for right now it has the gangs symbol and everything on it. That identifies them as being part of that specific gang. Show, he goes to give Jimmy this jacket and then pulls out a gun. Jimmy is already well aware that bobby is not entirely stable. He was there when he killed the other guy or right afterwards. The guy that Jimmy was actually told he needed to kill so. Goes ahead and shoots him pretty quick, and he is thinking that the rest of the gang is going to retaliate and kill him on the spot, but turns out that the rest of them had already also realized that Bobby was out of control, but no one else was really ready or willing or capable of making that move to stop him. So. The gang respecs Jimmy's action that he's taken. They recognize that it is self defense, and that bobby was going to probably end up killing all of them at some point down the line, so they just go ahead and let it go. 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We were talking about the role that Nikos is playing and messing up everyone's lives, including orchestrating and executing the death of Claro Hagen who had been his deputy with Dns, so she worked directly for him, and also the death of Jurgen the Reva. Leagues, Blogger Cain leave owes. Hacker slash computer expert counterpart so. Katie went to go and meet Nikolaos in an abandoned building, and when she got there instead of meeting new clothes or him killing her, she just waits for a while, and then when she goes back to the car ends Juergen has been shot in the head. which is just rude and I'm not sure if that was supposed to be a real deterrent for her. It's kind of the principal for me that you don't want to give someone. Nothing left to lose. That can make them very dangerous, but now Kaley is on the run from new in them. She knows that she definitely cannot trust him that there is no bargaining with this man, and now they have shot the guy that she turns out. KINDA LOVES IN THE HEAD. He was her partner, Romantically Ruse Romantically Kayla comfortable. Getting are admitting to. And also she. He was her partner in the computer sent, so he was helping her run reva leaks. fell. Unfortunately, they have now given Kaley. Nothing left to lose unfortunate fire DNS that is, but their loss may very well be Michael Feigns Game. We, also in this episode saw that Jimmy had to shoot bobby so Jimmy was the FBI agent who was undercover in bobbies. Motorcycle Club and Bobby was just so unhinged that he thought that Jimmy was a blood and went to try to kill him prompting Jimmy to ultimately shoot bobby instead. So Jimmy Shot I is what we are looking at four. This one and the gang really respected him for it because they knew that bobby was likely gunning for all of them by the end of this road. But they do tell him that he needs to get on to his ride and disappear from there, so I'm guessing they're going to handle the dead body. They're going to do something I suppose with it. I'm not sure how. The Motorcycle Club is or if it's like sons of anarchy or anything like that or a fair different groups of the same gang throughout the US or something. We know bobby in them. We're running drugs and stuff before, but not necessarily where they were getting all of the supplies and distribution and everything from. We didn't see their whole layout like you do in shows like breaking bad. Perhaps there is a more extensive gang network as well kind of like how I guess fraternities work where you have them at different schools in different locations, but it's technically the same roles in the same name of the fraternity or group. So Jimmy is not welcome to stay there anymore now that he has shot their leader, but they're like yo bro were not gonNa Chase you down for this kind of did us a favor, we. We can't like act like you did us a favor, but we all know that you did us a favor, so just lose leave. We're GONNA. Look the other way where pretend that we didn't anything. And then Jimmy of course has blown. Not His cover they don't know. He's an FBI agent, but he has at least blown his opportunity to still remain undercover. They aren't killing him, but he is not able to maintain that cover anymore and so the OP is ultimately blown. However he's honestly got bigger fish to fry in general, so he started out in his motorcycle club, trying to infiltrate them win this pandemic of this blood virus with that H. Four seven. Predator gene. They're calling it. Were really unleashed on the general population, so he doesn't really need to be there anymore anyway. There are a lot more pressing issues now than there were when he started this undercover. Case I suppose. So Jimmy goes back to report for orders and his debriefing. They order him to find Luther. Luther is still being held by Dina's remembered. Dez and Theresa have escaped, but does is not necessarily safe because he is out there as well does has no way to reach out to his father and he is. Perhaps turning into a vampire, he's definitely quite sick and he's still a kid, even if he is a very perceptive and intelligent kid. But we do see that Jimmy is told. Go get luther. He's still being held by DAYNUSS, but go get him whatever you have to do, but fortunately for Jimmy Nick close as and the process of driving luther to somewhere out in the woods. It's somewhere in the forest extensively still in Seneca. How big is this town? You guys? I really just need to know how vic Seneca is. What is the like geographic size and also like the per capita distribution of individuals? How Dense is population? I have a lot of questions about the demographics of Seneca, but I digress somehow luther and Nikolaos and Jimmy and Michael or all still and Seneca. Spars I, can tell and Jimmy is able to really go out there and intercept locker when you close is driving out there. Need clothes has told Luther. He's going to help set him free. Him Escape but Luther also knows that Nikolaos cannot entirely be trusted, so we do see that after Nicklaus, let's go out in the forest or at the side of the road. That, Nikolaos is. Sending someone out to kill Luther? They're either going to just straight up. Kill him or I guess have him be followed to see where he goes like trying to maybe get him to lead them to Michael's. Of Bloods, but Luther really doesn't know where they are and his first priority. As we've seen, this entire time is does does is immediately where he is going to go, but perhaps they also intend to just recapture Theresa and then get rid of Luther since he has been so much trouble so far. I'm not sure what exactly the plan is. Maybe they just want Dez back so they have their leverage back and they'll recapture him, but he does. Send someone out to track luther slash. Maybe murder him. We know that they consider Michael to be. Definitely collateral damage or just an acceptable loss. Really he's not an collateral damage because they are actively hunting for him, but they wanted to do more genetic work with the bloods, so he's an acceptable loss I suppose is how Nikolaos the term it. Who knows what their actual plan is? Do, know is that Nikos has a luther loose. By telling him he's helping him to escape, but really is back at it with his nefarious crap again, so there's a lot of Nikolaos being nefarious. In this episode. He is just ordering people murdered left and right, and is incredibly unaffected by. Almost all this, actually, absolutely all of this as far as we can tell, the guy is cold hearted, and that's a fact, so he really does not care about anyone. He has that in common with Danny as well. So, Michael is also still out there and for members. We discussed in the last episode. He has a very different approach than some of the other bloods, and that's partly just because Michael was a really good person. He was like a humanitarian beforehand he cared about people and his life as a human, and still retain some of that as a blood. That's part of what he puts into the bloods Credo of making sure that they don't harm children, and that they give help to others extensively other bloods and just generally. Are Not, killing, all of their blood supply or their food supply all at once. But also there's some morality in there for him. He hasn't ethical issue with killing kids. It seems it doesn't seem to be just because he knows that you know. Humans need to grow up before you can really use them most effectively as you know vampire juice boxes, but it seems really come from a place of ethics and Morality for. So he now has met back up with. And he helps treat her wound by applying a likened patch to it, so they're using more of this natural medicine as well while they are in this underground blood movement. And I liked it. They address that with with natural medicine I thought that was really interesting that they have these genes that have turned them into these apex predators that existed hundreds of thousands of years before and that he is also using this older type of medicine at the same time. So it's kind of maybe loosely tethered and that aspect but I really liked the application of it I thought it was very interesting. And he's trying hard to be a good leader to be fair to his people to have pride in being who they are that because that's the third role is to have pride in being a blood and saying hey, there's nothing wrong with me. This is in my genetics. This is how I am. This is the way I was effectively born since he was born with those jeans, and it's just the epigenetics exposure to the prieand that have activated it for him. And for the others, so he wants to make sure that they're not out there. Just killing absolutely everyone but also. Is having trouble getting everyone on the same page and remember they came and found him and asked him to be their leader, so he's kind of a reluctant leader and. So Michael is doing his best and Luther still thinks that Michael can be saved more or less because he thinks that he can maybe find a cure for this or a treatment to help reverse these issues, or to stop them in their tracks, or negate the need for them to feed on human blood at Cetera, but you know Luther contacting, Michael Without dns authorizations part of what got luther in a this huge mess to begin with, but I also think that that's why. Why they let him loose because they think that he will lead them back to Michael. Even if there's like a pit, stop to find, does and Theresa I for them. It's a win win. They lost control of their assets and of their leverage, so they really need to get hold of something whether that's the assets being luther, and Theresa or the leverage, being Dez or even their end goal of getting all of these vampires whether to experiment on them or to exterminate them. I don't think DNS cares much either way in general, but we kind of see that Nikos has a scientific aspect to him, and he might care in some way. We just aren't exactly sure what. He's going to do with the information once he has it. But right now. Michael's really struggling to keep the bloods Randan. He has recently been established as being their leader that he did not ask for, and he's also trying to implement roles, so they've asked to be led or to be governed, but they don't WanNa. Follow anyone's roles, so they're trying to elect a leader for an anarchist society or appoint a leader for what they want to be an anarchist society, and it's just causing a lot of problems, but Michael's like look. If you're going to follow me and you're going to appoint me as your leader because I was patient zero. Then you had follow these roles and he kind of loses on them. Because some vampires went and attacked a funeral, and they killed kids there too, so he thinks that that is excessively meshed up of them to do that. Particularly because there's kids but I think there might also be an aspect of hey, you know that's a funeral and that was really not cool for you to do that. He has some boundaries and limits still that many of the others just don't. So. It's interesting to think about it. Because they just mass killed a whole bunch of people and Michael's perspective is that you know that's more people really than they even needed to kill the more than they could feed upon more blood. That wasn't even used by anyone. And, so they're just unnecessary deaths to so whether you look at that as food, supply issue or as an ethical issue Michael is saying hey, is your leader. You cannot just go out there and slay people for the lulls like there needs to be a purpose. And in that way, he really seems to have a long common with many human hunters. I've met in my lifetime. Who are like? Hey, you don't kill animals under a certain age, not because it's illegal, but because it's immoral for one, it doesn't have any of those instincts and everything. It's not going to be good eating, and also because you need to make sure that the population stays healthy and is able to continue growing at a reasonable pace, so you don't. Cause an actual decline in your groups that you're hunting just out of greed. Anything that you kill, you should be eating so being from APPALACHIA. A lot of the hunters that I know are very serious about that and they hunt for food not for sport, and then they will have the meat cut up and made into different things and keep that in their freezers and stuff throughout the year so that they can supplement their food. They bind the grocery store with this more natural food. Some of them think of it as so wild game. And also just not having to pay so much for it as they also view it as their right to still live off of the land, and not necessarily have to pay for all of these things in the grocery store, and I can understand where they are definitely coming from in that perspective, and that seems to be one Michael shares. He's fine with adult humans being killed for food. But he's not okay with the children being slaughtered, and he doesn't seem to be cool with this hunting for sport either. So I'm here for it. It's a little bit fuzzy as to specifically y Michael is against certain things, but it seems to overall be about ethics and morality as he does. Bring that up to Danika at a certain point to that. She was already a Predator before, but now instead of going after money, she is going after blood. So that's where we're left at the end of this episode season one episode. Episode six. We have luther out there having escaped in his going to Dr. promote cheese to find theresa and Dez whom he believes to be there, but Teresa has been attacked by promote cheesy, and Dez is out on his own somewhere in this big scary world, perhaps also about to turn into a vampire Michael's trying to rein everyone in urine has just been killed, and Nikolaos is back at it again. 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27: Robbie Swifthand & the Orb of Mysteries, Undertale and Interview with Pixel Reign

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27: Robbie Swifthand & the Orb of Mysteries, Undertale and Interview with Pixel Reign

"The welcome to this week in video games absurd twenty-seven tonker short podcast all about the world of video games this week I've been playing under title and Robbie Swift Hand in the oval. Mysteries also got some time to talk to developers Pixel rain talking about released nickname unintended switch in the news this week hero arrives in Smash Brothers Ultimate Solstice of Heroes Twenty nine thousand nine hundred thousand destiny to and and the P._S. Four hits one hundred million units sold worldwide jam packed show. Let's get to it. Welcome to the show everyone. I hope you're well and you're having a good week. I'm good this week having spent a lot of my week between Glasgow on assignment and it's always good to go back to Scotland really enjoyed my time up there. England and Australia kicked off the ashes this week and if you're you're listening to the podcast you know I'm a big fan of cricket so we're doing reasonably well at the moment is the fourth day of the first test and the match is currently in the balance with the Smith Smith the crease. He's got back to back hundreds in this test match and a really fantastic performance. I'm looking forward to another eight weeks of the cricket and hopefully there's a cricket video. Video Games are can pick up to go along with the ashes so if you never good one let me know so first up. Let's take a look at why I've been planning this week so I thought this week I've been playing Robbie. Swift hand in the all mysteries is a new puzzle platformer from Pixel Rain. The game has been out for about a year on P._C. But it came out this week on Nintendo switch which the reviews coming up soon. I got to speak to the developers Pixel rain this week from Athens in Greece. That interview is coming up right after the review otherwise this week. I've implant detail which is an incredible R._P._G. Which I missed the first round it's been a backlog to play for as long as I can remember and this week I finally got the chance house to play and well it is absolutely awesome and that review is coming up really soon to I've also been playing unavowed a point and click adventure game from Dave Gilbert and team having played through a few adventure games this year including heavens vote guard duty and Nellie Kotelo up around the question on twitter saying recommend Mason Adventure Games and unavowed kept coming back from followers and subscribers so I reached out to Dave Gilbert and we're going to be speaking this week so make sure you tune in next week week for an interview and if you've got recommendations for Adventure Games I should try? Send me an email to podcast this week. In video games dot com the first up. Let's get into my review you roby swift hand and the old of mysteries to them. This leg case stand the whole he'd open are gonNA so robie swift hand and the ORB mysteries is a puzzle platformer available P._C. An hour on August first unintended switch you take control of Robbie Swift end who wakes up in temple and he's encouraged by spirit to collect the fragment to make the author of mysteries and save the World Robbie's more interested in the cash money. That's on offer from the spirit of the prize so probably it's kind of an anti hero. He's only in it for the money. Be Kind of rooting for him anyway. In terms of Gameplay Robbie swift hands in the mysteries is a puzzle platformer full of traps obstacles and challenges. It's your job to pick up a shining owning blue light in our the levels throughout the levels you have to jump dodge swinging axes and carefully placed traps to throw the orb of light and that opens up your goal to get get to the end of the level. The game has two different endings depending on how he performed throughout the game levels packed full of secrets for players to discover is the characters inside the temple you may along the way interacting with the game world and other characters affect your poff through the game with intelligent. I there's a real personality to Robie that shines orange through probably isn't just a sprite the replays the same animation when he dies they I develops and grows out the game play and he feel an emotional connection to Robbie. He's not just a graphic. He replays the same animation he feels alive. When I spoke to Nikos Angelos from Pixel rain when they were talking about game play they said we wants to focus on the player interacting the game during Gameplay the way we achieve those we want to Adalov character the cut scenes and they certainly did that? The original Robbie swift hand was my back into as an eight and it was made in Gamemaker Nicola the first iteration of Ravi swift hand and it still available online they cost wanted to recreate robbery to test his skills as a game developer and fully realize they original version for ropy swift times since then the team Pixel rain has grown with Nicholas Vicky Andros and other team members to probably swift hand in the mysteries is certainly a challenge. There's three difficulty levels hard not so hard and insanity traps will pop up when least expected and bricks will fall from the ceiling there certainly no shortage of surprises in the game and as well as the plethora of traps and things wanting to kill Ruby in the temple. There's also the bus battles inspired by Nicosia's experience be dark souls. There's definitely no shortage of tracks access weapons other deadly things and surprises ready to kill Robbie swift hand and to stop him from collecting treasure the method dying to very varied filled with humor over opiate little bit gruesome. Sometimes there were more on the few times Sharon out loud wind random spikes from the ground and killed Robbie right when I was close to the end of the level level it gave me the same feeling of playing super hard Kaiser Mario level so when I spoke to Nikos he went on to say we wanted to give players sense of achievement we look back at the sixteen bit it games the ninety s and wants to give the player bragging rights. It's not something that you get nowadays and we want to give the player chance to accomplish and achieve something so in summary Robbie swift hand in the of mystery. Mr Is Great Fun. The bite-size levels are great to pick up and play for a short time or you can get lost in the game and play for hours is the perfect game for Nintendo switch and something which Pixel right now very proud of it's a fun challenging platformer full of humor and while moments definitely want to try it out so as I mentioned the game was developed up by Pixel rain is out now for P._C. And intendo switch it was originally released on the twentieth of September Two Thousand Eighteen P._C. And it was released on the INTENDO switch on August. It's the first and I gave the game final score of seventy eight out of one hundred. So what did you think of Robbie swift hand. Send me an email on podcast this week in videogames dot com or tweet me at T. W. G. podcast on twitter next up this week. I had a chat with Pixel rainmakers roby swift hand and the mysteries so let's go to that interview now. Welcome back to this week in video games and I'm here with Angela and Nikos from Pixel rain and we're here today to talk about rob swift hand and the orbit mystery so welcome Angeles and Necas along having us it it must be exciting couple of days because we've got the the launch of ropes fan than the orbit mysteries on Nintendo switch tomorrow. You must be a very exciting time fee as stressful restful as well yeah. I've been waiting for this moment for like six months with publishing and we're working on on <hes> porting the game for an extra month or two so it's it's been quite some time since we started trying to get this it happen and we wanted the game to be on the straights. Since the day we started working on it so we are actually very broad and very excited for it. It's a it's a fantastic game and and like you say it's perfect Flynn intendo switch <hes> and so what what does it mean to you as a company to get this game on Nintendo switch <hes> we actually made a game good enough that it's <hes> people <hes> actually appreciated to the point that they actually helped us to take it all the way there so it's for us it was fascinating donating lake <hes> <hes> Nick can tell you from his point of view because he made a game eight years ago that was called roguish and the mysterious as well <hes> but it was made <hes> in a different engine with different graphics and you know it was <hes> nothing compared to what it is today and <hes> she was like okay. Let's make nick project together biking twenty seventeen and so we thought that recreating this project would be the best idea because it would be a fun project the smoke project and pretty manageable so yeah then ended up not being so small. We didn't expect elected to get this far like yeah. It's amazing for us so kitchen both tell us a bit more about roby swift hand in the old mysteries yeah well rugby is <hes> someone's in a temple by little spirit <hes> that urges him to <hes> <hes> collect the three fragments that make the herb of me series in order to save the world and he doesn't care because he wants the money from the temple and since there is money temple he's going to save the world so it's sort of like a non by hero saving the world by accident accidents because there is money. You know it's a sort of like what you wouldn't like the character and that's that's why you don't feel bad when he died so many times as a character. You're like yeah he kind of deserved that yeah but make an explain you the <hes> the game burden on me believe it or not yeah we'll bring much. The story itself is colletion story. At least how starts will have a <hes> a quite a lot of development during the game and there are two different endings depending on you perform <hes> <hes> you can find secrets inevitably level which gradually changed the story of the game you made some other characters inside the temples will and we we wanted to focus on mostly on the gameplay and experienced hearings player get not not just by progressing the story but actually interacting with the game world than with the characters during rigby play so we the way by chief that is <hes> we wanted to have a lot of character to the player graphic besides the story itself with besides the axons so when you play you you'll notice the drop is looking around. Were Marla rounding will notice the traps kill get scared a huge change expressions depending on what's going on so a a lot of the things going on there there are two not telling nations but they're on by a in the ground and this makes makes him feel alive without the need of extra card seen Soro something that's been done intentionally so each player has a different garnell binding with the main character so when he dies some people don't feel bad some some people do but it feels like some he he's <hes> live. You know so when you die you'll feel like Mike. There's been the CACAK and you you you kind of feel bad or good depending on the way if you all the character but the feeling is generally you feel like someone who's alive respond again not just a graphic Cova player that plays same decimation over and over again. It's really interesting you mentioned the <hes> the implementation of and the fact that throughout the game based on your playthrough you actually get different endings. That's really that's really cool and that's almost goes above and beyond the kind of the average <hes> platforming game that that's incredible and could you tell me a bit more about your inspiration behind the game obviously expression for this game with the first one I grade in two thousand eight <hes> it actually I was working with the game make before it was acquired by your games and ended there was a actually I think it was just when they acquired anyway and there wasn't a competition for games with the scene of <hes> <hes> ancient civilization and I wanted to create a platformer Bugden so I I kinda came up with the Robie you you can still find it online. It's pretty watered down raising the cur- current one so when we in two thousand sixteen or seventeen I think it was at the end of Sir Sixteen. We decided to start it was mean convict I <hes> we decided to start to some something of our own because we were working at another company by then and I I kinda wanted to to recreate and see for myself how much further they got this a game developer and also actually make this game exactly the way I wanted it to be no because now have the possibilities the knowledge I have the experience and the <hes> obviously the unit gains in these a lot more power powerful for these kinds of results so that was the first step a. and the way we work as a team where we're actually got US involved like a couple of Maas later and the way we work as Dini's we we don't have a plan so the beginning roby was sick but it it works out better for us and for the players years because it makes the process of grading the game for us as well because we don't know what's coming next we we usually get inspired by the game itself when with their state and then you know what would be cool if today's or dog at the to give you you're weird example on the second boss fights nichols playing dark souls so macos playing dark sauce and he decided that he wanted a boss that is inspired by with both the <hes> Sword Dancer which is a reference Yeah <hes> into it ended up for actually coming a lot in common with like we got a lot of people saying okay this dark souls or something but if you look at it it looks nothing like it just the feel that feels simular so it's not the graphics. It's not the animation it's not the context it's just just the field that that gives you so it was weirdly inspired by a totally different game yet somehow worked worked by the feel it graded. It's it's really good and I can. I definitely guess sense of <hes> dark. Souls rose in the in in the in the difficulty levels and I noticed that when you start the game you offer the player three difficulty levels but I think the I think that's cool and say an easy hard super hard and <hes> could could you tell us a bit more about your decision to offer these different difficulty levels. I'll give you the answer about that when when when I decided to join Pixel rain because nick gave me an offer I couldn't refuse he was like just make something with points and and make it fun like these were the two guidelines and for three months I was making levels that I had to constantly fakes and <hes> you know trying to figure out what would work for this sort of game and <hes> I ended up <hes> creating a theory of pollen levels should be made so torture people so I may know the level psychology based so oh based on how you play and what type of person you are if your patient the patient or if you're thinking or if you're not thinking well uh-huh your actions before you do them. You're going to get a drastically different feel of how the how hard the game release so. We've got players that said that initially we had only card mode you know so it was like the let's say normal version <hes> which for some players worth through easy for some players was too hard and that wasn't because of their personality or because of the psychology was because of their skill so we brought to the game yeah exactly so we had to create three different modes for the three groups is that we are then defied that are are within the type of people that would like our game and are the type of people that enjoy these the challenge yet not beyond their age something they feel they can do so this is why we created the <hes> like the super hard mode which is for <hes> lunatics like me and our her who really like a challenge and said don't take no for an answer repeat option and we had to make an easy mode because for some people they just haven't played enough blood farmers to be he really good at them and we don't want to all excessively punish people you know so it sort of blend of if you're not good at plus farmers you can still think through <hes> what's going to happen and work your way around the drops and that's for the players that's who choose easy easy mode and they would rather chiel experience compared to the other modes be normal mode is that for people that play platformer but are not the diehards find so genre that won't experienced challenge <hes> that doesn't take them by hand ins you you know gives him gives them a free wing and the super hard mode is for people that want to you know experience something really difficult and get get a sense of achievement on wh when accomplishing at dust that is really really hard so this is why we ended up making getting three modes instead of one <hes> ends I think we we we shouldn't have done more or and we should have done less <hes> uh but we'll see what people the difference between the difficulties now game is not just you know some H._B._o. For boss or enemy <music> Soma we actually changed their different levels for each mode like all there we we have to end it all levels we I made them for them. Normal mode and then earlier granted them for the other modes like changing delegation of the drops making it less for straightening. Somebody's for the less experienced players and let's be clear the three difficulty modern knots named easy easy normal and hard. It's not so hard carbon insanity. They want being that we I always wanted to achieve with this game is to give the players the players nowadays the feeling we had back in the ninety s with a sixteen bit Consoles or eight bit consoles that when you beat the game or a level you can brag about it and you feel accomplishment because you did something tom singing not just because the progress story or get an achievement <hes> by mistake or something like that we wanted to create the old school feeling where you actually knew that it was because your skilled enough your your comple- something in it's a feeling of you don't don't get nowadays must have games so whether you're playing <hes> <hes> not so hard more hard model designed. You'll get that because it's it's still a challenging experience in all three modes a just a it's not like we're feeling sorry for the less experienced people we just want everybody to do be able to get up failing and the game is challenging in all three modes just depends on the <hes> personal play the game. That sounds really good and I. I definitely liked the night the naming of insanity for the Super Heart could you could you tell us a bit more about the kind of early access <hes> <hes> for the game and how that process was few did you did you get feedback from the audience and then make significant changes or did you kind of stick to your original. You know plan. How how is the access process for you? We launched early access in order to get feedback leg. We knew that it is our first title and you know it's it was a risky move that we had to make in order for many reasons but it it's really helped us define like even better. What's the best experience for the people who would be because there are some issues in games that you cannot no upfront runs and you need people that will pick up your game that will give you honest feedback and will not be you know feared <unk> all who will not fear to tell you the truth even if you care to you you know and <hes> we were glad to see that people liked it and gave us <hes> really really valuable feedback on how to make the game where to make the game more responsive <hes> what frustrates them what they find difficult and we also sell a lot of people that played the game on Youtube which really helps because you can see the player <hes> you can see the players actually playing the game and you can fix your like issues that the player doesn't know are there but you know that are there and he he also can design better gameplay and levels because you can see how players interact with the game <hes> which when you're making the game you know what to do? It's not the challenge for you but for someone else it will be here basically you. You'll you'll get to see their the perspective of that the experienced it's the game because it's actually exact opposite of the perspective you have they as a developer. It's awesome. It's almost impossible to do feel <hes> the things to the player feels when he plays your game so it's really hard for for you when especially when you have many deaths. There's doing margin what <hes> what exactly would happen if the player would play that's exactly as a level or encounter the top you're making more five the bulls you're making so when we we're watching <hes> youtuber when we were getting feedback from a lot of great people on the steam again lot jolt it it was a correct incredibly helpful for us and really <hes> important motivation for us to keep going and like especially one <hes> Uber he actually a stayed with us during the entire early access until along and he made like twenty something episodes of Abi playing in Sunday mold and he finished the game so it was like a parallel journey it with the ball shot both US creating the game in him <hes> finishing it was really really <hes> <hes> inspiring for us and we wanted to to grow together with the players and the give them something even more exciting for the next world and for the next <hes> boss <hes> yeah. It's really interesting thing they you mentioned because I always think about early. Accesses kind of testing getting feedback Badgley is also about developing and automating the community not around your game and like you say they you got the youtube interested in you both waiting on a journey together. Could you tell us a bit more about how how will you develop the community around <hes> roby's Fanuc Mysteries Brute Force. I would say like he is found people and and <hes> some of them respond some of in don'ts and eventually gets a few people in the start. That's actually you know like the game and are Oh really into it and I actually give you can you valuable feedback and then they stink to your game and keep playing and they keep giving you feedback which which is a very slow process. It doesn't come within a day or two <hes> and so it's not like we have this big community or anything but he get to meet all of those people that are playing your game. I Khan and talk with them so it's not like a hands off process. It's really hands on it's like thank you immediately like wake up fifty new sort of like friends Internet friends that you have to maintain relationships with and keeps <hes> <hes> <hes> you know keep sending them and gets more feedback from them and say understand their point of view and so what's what lies behind their feedback. It's <hes> you know try to empathize with them and see what they would be best for the game <hes> and there is many aspects like there's people that will wake up one day and you'll find in urine books people cursing at you like God. Why did you kill US stuff like that? which is really heartwarming <hes> or you can find the people that are like really appreciate your job then keep it doing what you're doing which is also really nice? I can explain more of the professional point of view but yeah like especially when we're going on the conferences like game skull and the United Berlin and the the local ones and it was really heartwarming to see people enjoy the game whether they're good or bad God we had like <hes> smoke kids play the game we have the their parents play the game and both enjoyed equally another really important factor was that people watching out there playing the game <hes> were actually sometimes having more fun then the people that were dying so a it was an incredible <hes> experience for us and the I think it was a good call to go early access for was really bad time for it because it was just after Green Stephen Green light was removed so getting exposure was almost impossible without <hes> <hes> budget and but we got enough exposure to get a small community going in the help us develop the game together with them by getting feedback and <hes> getting inspiration and it kept us going and get those Gig giving ideas yeah there were some people that were so passionate that we would contact us almost every day giving us suggestion and they would find some really really small details that I would never find or think about so. It's really wanted to have this kind of people that get it's a you could say a little bit obsessed with the game I actually had to collaborate with <hes> some people bler from unity at some point to to make the control of the game be exactly Pixel perfect and frame `perfect <hes> <hes> I have to understand exactly how long Bros behind a system was <hes> working in Yoon and dinner action how to bypass some things but we ended up with pretty much perfect control system for the game like there's zero frames lag between input from the player when you press the button in the action you see on the screen unless there's some hardware limitation on in your Saddam so this is the kind of stuff that make or break these kinds of games but it's really hard to notice because we don't have kind of like fifty machines to test so when people started contacting us and say you know I have a older machine she and then the <hes> oblivious controller that sliding in I notice that there's a lot of reimport like in the game and we started to uh goodwin communicating more with them and that gave me the idea to to bruise on cadeau system and this kind of things kept happening a lot of the things that are now making the game <hes> much better than it was when we started making it is actually thanks thanks to the community. That's fantastic so I mean I really fantastic time with the game. I think it's Super Fun. It's it's really hard. It's really funny any <hes> so I was wondering if you could just tell audience somehow and when they can get their hands on the game tomorrow I the which which platforms available currently it's in it's already available on steam for Saugus and they can get their hands on on the game tomorrow on the Thunder Straits and if they're in America or Japan or Asia they can get it on Blake station soon in Europe as as well and hopefully by the end of September we will have its own xbox as well everywhere and I actually holding right now a <hes> razor and <hes> I got the game working here so this is. We can't really <hes> uh say any conclusive information about this but it's it's coming. It's coming on the razor phone exclusively at least for a assorted Beer Simon is going to be on the razor phone only so razor phone controller controller ends phone <hes> owners should be expecting to hear something from just remonstrance also from razor and they should be able to get their hands on <hes> <hes> some <hes> Onofri code as well if they are active at the point of lunch. That's fantastic. Well didn't mention could she's not here <hes> but Kilson she did the sound cents a all the music in the game <hes> together with here husband <hes> the made the soundtrack and all of everything you here in the game and we they made sure that <hes> even the Gossiping for the doctors were professionals like the best professionals that could get out for example <hes> on the second boss they even got the the <hes> soprano that was voice acting in movies like Disney movies and things like that and so she did an incredible performance and then they opted out for the final boss they got the guy who translated the <hes> like the Greek version one of the game of <hes> Gore Five <hes> the good grade us so wow we got the Greek greatness <hes> as the final boss us and the soprano from the Greek versions of these movies in <hes> <hes> the second boss fight and Layla. which is you know they did an incredible job there so we're really come to mention as well well? That's awesome says a shout out to Vicki and a husband using Kirkman areas still not used to say this is fully in our guys. Thanks so much for talking to me on this but can video games and into good luck for the launch. Thank you very much that was me the China Nikos Angelos from Pixel rain and thanks again guys and good luck for the release of the game next up is detail <music> it and so under tail is an R._p._G. With switches up the rules subverts your expectations M._o. Surprise and delight you from start to finish on detail is a care about the aftermath of a war between humans and monsters. You're a small human dropped into the monster world at the start of the game where you wake up and me economy flower most of teaching the way to the world you quickly learn though that everything isn't as you expect down here in the Munster world and you're saved by kindly monster who has your best interests at home aw you can take a number of P- roaches in detail you can play the game as a pacifist where there's no killing killing only a few monsters or all out killing every monster you made your choices really mattering this game and under tail constantly throws up surprises in the game play to keep you on your toes from the very first moment the flower lasts and shouts are you. You know you're in a unique experience. The objective of the game is to explore me characters and level up up much like another R._p._G.'s. He can choose your own path. If you don't fight you can flow you can charm. We can threaten your enemies. Maybe they get tired of fighting vying you and runaway the systems in under tower fairly straightforward for an R._P._G. A few simple systems to understand learn like H._p. Attack and defense and there's very few items to speak of its simplicity both a strength and weakness of the game however the lack of complex systems do let the strength of writing gone through the battle system much like other aspects of the game is different what you might expect in other R._p._G.'s it changes as you play in different stars when he plays plaza pacifist and you try and talk your way out situations in your opponent in the tax you with white pellets aiming for your heart is your job to move out the way in a bullet held dodging Mana Manna attacking enemy is stop lying on a grid to attack the right time it mixes things up in the game and offers surprises like this all the way through the writing writing undertows the real star with the depth and the warmth of characters shining through in spades the sharp humor great character-building and story beats along the way they were initially get you hooked and then warm and break your heart by the end the writers really conversant of knowing its audience and demonstrating the ability to get inside all right our heads. The passionate fan base of the game online is a testament to the skill of the writing in detail as you walk around the world and meet characters in the game they convey their deepest ause share their dreams with you. It's a very touching experience. Under title explore questions of morality constantly we fight this Munster. We kill it. We simply flirt and everything will be over quickly. The writing of the characters consistent across the game with a level of depth not saying in many of the game's not lightly all the story and dialogue and magic during your first playthrough or maybe even your second the game can be played as a variety of roles and depending on how you interact with the game world then your outcomes will be different from mine. The game comes at an average pay through about six to seven hours but if you take your time this is likely to be more like ten hours shorter than the average R._p._G. For sure but dent with story and delight one small back in the game as the graphics which fairly basic doc and don't necessarily do the writing justice sometimes the environments feel empty and spouse and you can only imagine what the game would be like with a little more richness in the crash co area area however is a tiny gripe and ultimately doesn't Spoil Your enjoyment of this game until it's tough to talk about underwear without spoiling any of the story one piece of advice advice I can give you is don't make the same mistake I did. I sat in this game for far too long and from the first twenty minutes played your charmed and hooked on complain the game. You're wonder why I took you so long to get around playing so if you enjoy story focus video games and well developed characters and stories get this at the first opportunity carve out some time and play may be more than once the game is a real treat and don't sit on this one for much longer so the developer was Toby Fox. The game is available won't Nintendo Switch Playstation P._C. and Mac it was originally released back in Twenty fifteen but is released on Nintendo switch where I played it in September two thousand eighteen Jean. What did you think about on detail? Send me an email on podcast this week in videogames dot com or tweet me at T. W. Ivy League podcast on twitter so if if you're enjoying this week in videogames podcast head on over to I tunes and leave us a nice review it really helps get the word out about the podcast that if you've got access to really appreciate Shiite and Nice Review and don't forget this week in videogames has a youtube channel that goes alongside the podcast you got the entire arc over the podcast as well as dedicated okay reviews interviews and features search this week in video games on Youtube and subscribe today for all the latest content and if you want to say anything specific on Youtube Sube Siemian email to podcast this week can be oh games dot com. It'd be great to hear from you. I've just posted up a new place to youtube with advice on the games industry with snippets pits from all the interviews I've done over the last six months. Interviewing Developers Artists Producers Company directors yeah a range of people from the Games industry if you head on over to Youtube and check my playlist for games industry advice and you can check out there so next up. Let's take a look at the news of the week I stuff in the news this week and got news from Smash Autumn and the Dragon Quest Hero joins the action so new fighter join smash brothers ultimate unintended switch and it's hero from Dragon Quest. I confirmed during e three as a new fighter here from dragon quest arrived this week on Nintendo switch so heroes moves and abilities. I've been detailed by smash Master Massa hero a secretary in a new video and also unveiled a dragon quest theme stage as well hero rhymes is past match brothers ultimate four point -O update which includes is changes to the final smash mechanics including a timer in game online tournaments a new spectator mode and are very easy option for adventure mode for those who wanNA speed through it and you can check out that announcement from Secretary on this week in videogames dot com if you just go to the website and in the search box type dragon quest hero and you'll find the link to the video radio their next step in the news this week P._S. Four hits one hundred million sales worldwide and Sony's playstation four hundred million worldwide sales according to their related financial results. This makes the P._S. Four the console to make it to the one hundred million consoles the fastest in history approximately three point two million P._S. Four all sold in the last quarter which is April to June twenty nine teen and Sony predicts approximately fifteen million P._S. Force to be so by the end of the financial year which is the end of March next year two thousand twenty so only P._s. Four sounds is still strong as we come to the end of the console life cycle but no doubt that's going to be slowing down as we missile get towards the announcement for the P._S. Five what with the exclusive titles on P._S. four the overall package for the P._S. Four has shown and demonstrate AH certainly has won the console wars this time and getting to one hundred million the fastest is certainly demonstrated evidence of that so congratulations to everyone at Sony for hit that milestone next up epic game store is going to support cloud saves epic of Lettuce into their world of playing giving us a glimpse of their Trillo Board without coming priorities. Not One of the most exciting features on there is cloud saves so moonlighted made available as one of the free games last week and he's got the option to enable cloud saves so it hasn't been officially announced that Tim Sweeney epics boss came out and confirmed as a feature and not an error so the other three games on the epic games last week was this this war of mine and it also has that feature available so epic plans to Roy Moore Games with this feature in the future and it's a manual process for the store team to implement rather rather than something developers after do so other features coming soon include a store redesign and smaller file sizes and talking on the epic game store this week. We've got four on a an Alan wake as free game so if you fancy either of those games and you want a couple of free game it's a head on over to the EPA game store and download those free games now next next up Doda under lords is going to address the casual and ranked matches so don't underlaw is planning to add a casual mode into the game this is going to let players match mate with friends uh-huh and achievements and complete challenges in a more casual environment so the moment games are ranked in the developers of underlaw one provide new environment where players can learn Dan and practice in the proposed casual mode players were still rematch made against players of a similar skill however rankings won't be on display to keep things a little bit more relaxed the players it can be tough in the game to learn and to pick up and play with little knowledge can be a frustrating experience unless you watch hours of youtube tutorials. Some folks learn best by doing so providing a safe place to learn seems a good idea. After a few games of casual mode players were not rant however if you played before the update then ranked or already be open right now is getting a few days to and rank mode is going to introduce a points ranking system which is earned from placement ranked matches so first place gets one hundred points second seventy five etc etc player in last place loses one hundred points and then ranks are shown based on your points between zero and seven thousand six hundred points so for more information that you can check out various full announcement if you go on over to this week in video against dot com type in data under Lord is the first article available there for you finally in the news this week softest of Heroes Twenty nine thousand nine has come out in destiny too so superheroes is a seasonal event as a chance to celebrate the year in Disney to your achievements and the friends you've made and the aliens that you've killed the event is available for all guardians wins and you don't have to own the annual pass for this content and to start the event head on over evil of anti near the Statue of Heroes in the tower so when he first picked either shoe you terry how wonderful you are and how this is a time and destiny where we look back our yearly achievements and give thanks to the guardians for saving the lost city after you've spoken to either she'll give me your first piece of armor which is Green Helmet and then you want to put on the helmet and go into the is e which is the European areas zone which is a new three-person matchmaking activity for Solstice of Heroes and insults of heroes is all about leveling at your character being the objectives on your armor and earning your solstice this of heroes on the set really really beautiful looking set. It's going to take a little bit of a wall to to rank armor and unlock all the pieces through the green gene the blue and the purple arm sets and you can even masterwork those arms it says well one of the main features of south of heroes is a new activity could the European aerial ozone where you can test out these new elemental baths and pick up subsidies packages hidden in chests. You'll find hive Kabbalah fallen in this new three player match made activity Timoti so the idea is to defeat as many minibuses before the timer expires before you face off against the final boss once you defeat that final boss it's time to collect the loop searching out the treasure chests in the the more minibuses you defeat the more treasure you'll get at the end of the activity you're going to search out chess locations which we mount on the screen screen for a few seconds and when she opened the chest you get solstice packages and that includes rare legendary gear mods enhancement cars and materials substance. This packages are also part the quest for upgrading your armor. There's also some really cool new items in the store for Solstice of heroes and every item is available through direct purchase which is this time with silver or bright dust rather than event ingram. I`Ma goes are available for each Amazon and they really your Guardian really really cool so Amoco go set showing their brightest when they're matched up with the right element either arc solar or void Armageddon's are also available after the event end seeing carry them forward into into shedder Cape in October when that launches and talking of Shadow Cape This Week Bungee announced that shadow keep has been moved back a couple of weeks from September seventeenth saints until October the first so if you plan to take time off work for me to release in the mid September or you're going to have to change those plans the release date has been moved move back to October the first to give a little bit more time to work on shadow. Keep as a few things need tweaking and balancing the sources of heroes runs from the thirtieth of July aligned to the twenty seventh of August and there's a lot of content on offer the socialist gear is often some of the best looking gear in the game and together with glows in the fact you can pick up a fresh set shedder keep launches in October Arma two point already that makes this solstice of heroes extra extra fun. If you go into this week video games dot com and in that search doc typing solstice of heroes you'll find a full guard there and actually create a youtube video with a guide on the event itself the softest armor how to to pick up the packages and the key fragments and a guy to ever verse items as well so if you're interested in that head on over to you and you can watch that video and enjoy the source hosts of heroes with me. That's the news this week next up this take a look at the charts number ten. This week is written evidence to which is down five places number five down one place the number eight last week to this week's number nine is f. One twenty nine hundred down two places from six to eight MARICI deluxe up seven places places from fourteen to seventeen is grand theft auto five and down four places from two to six is marvel ultimate lines three the black order down down one place from four to five feet nineteen and down one place from three to four Super Mario Maker two down two places from one two threes crash team Racing Nitra fueled and at number two this week it's Wolfenstein young blood and new in at number one is fire three houses for Nintendo switch and I've been hearing a lot about fire emblem this week. I'm really thinking about gain hold of it. I heard it's a bit of a time sink is over seventy hours gameplay and carving out the time for fire emblem him on this week and video games might be tricky but I've heard a lot of good things and let me know. Have you played fire emblem. Let me know what you think about it. And should I get it. Send me an email on podcast this week videogame so come. I'd love to hear about your fire emblem stories and what you think about the new game on Nintendo switch well. That's it for the charts this week next up. Let's look at what we've got coming up next week in a few games next week we've got age of wonders planet for that's coming up on piers four xbox one. That's coming on over six breath then we got Metal Wolf Chaos X._T. As Command on P._C. P._S. four and xbox one. That's also on the six August then we've got sword are online as fatal bullet complete edition. That's Cam switch on August the ninth and that's it for next week. I guess we've got a super busy September coming up literally all the games coming in in September. I'm quite glad to the destitute shadow keep has been moved back from September to October that creates a little bit more room. We've got most under ice born September board lands three mid-september. We've got link's awakening. There's so many games on anarchy which is coming in late August which is practically September so there's the law big games coming out really re soon and it's a super super exciting time to be a video game fan. That's it for this week's episode thank you so much for listening and if if you WANNA get involved in the show email me on podcast at this week in video games dot com or check out the latest on the website send your questions your comments your videogame stories. I'm always was interesting. Hearing from you. Send me an email about anything you've heard on this week show and I'll read out on next week's podcast also available on twitter facebook Youtube and instagram ram search this week in video games on your favorite platform and joining that conversation and if he will not support this week in video games head on over to Patriot dot com ford slash this week and video games an exchange for supporting the show you get out discord access exclusive patron content POWs special design poku scripts and stickers so if you enjoy this week in video games sign up to Patriot it'd be great to see their thank you once again for hanging out with me and chatting about video games. I hope you've got a good week. I'll talk to you next weekend but for now

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Apressa-te devagar, festina lente

Feliz Dia Novo

03:34 min | 5 months ago

Apressa-te devagar, festina lente

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La Ciutadella, historia y curiosidades  Barceloneando 55

Podcast RadioViajera

39:12 min | 11 months ago

La Ciutadella, historia y curiosidades Barceloneando 55

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More intelligent: Part 1

Ohio Today radio

30:30 min | 1 year ago

More intelligent: Part 1

"What is it about technology that fascinates us from the very first tools to the smartphone? Human Capability has expanded and evolved. Thanks to technology in this multi part episode. We'RE GONNA explore one of the leading edges. In Tech Development artificial intelligence. A I in some form has been around since as early as the forties but never has its use been as widespread as it is today and it seems never has it been as generally misunderstood. We'll get into exactly how the most common. Ai Works. But as a spoiler it is not the all-knowing sentient computer we've been led to believe that be where a is headed. But we're not there yet instead. Well we have our very practical applications of AI that all interact with every day. So I'm very beneficial. Some intentionally damaging and even the benign uses. They raise very practical concerns about the unintended effects. That technology can how on almost every aspect of our lives. So let's get to it and this is Ohio today. Radio Karen how and I am the artificial intelligence reporter at MIT technology review. I met Karen at the marketing. Ai Conference in Cleveland. This past summer this was a first of its kind conference dedicated solely to a I in marketing and it was organized by Paul writes her a marketer entrepreneur and Bob cat. We'll hear from him and about a and marketing in a little bit but before we get there. Let's talk about how. Ai is most commonly being used. Today is a tool flash technology that is constantly used in your everyday life without even realizing it if Google if you use facebook if you use youtube all of those platforms are using some kind of AI. On it and what they're using predominantly most a systems are using this subcategory Of Technology called machine learning and machine learning is essentially the ability of a machine to take a lot of data understand. Patterns in that data and then reapply data so machine learning is just one type of Ai. There are others but machine learning is the most common. And it's the kind of I we're gonNA cover almost exclusively throughout this episode and machine learning starts with some set of data that a computer or machine can analyze. The data can be anything a collection of photos or current traffic conditions or the game of chess. The machine flies through that data and finds the patterns. This is the learning part of machine learning. Then that machine can take what it learned and apply to new but similar set of data and make decisions or recommendations based on what knows so if you take an example of Youtube. Youtube is really good recommending. You videos that you WANNA watch. And that's why we all spend way too much time on it and what it's doing is it's the data. Here is all of the videos. You've watched before so it's looking at all the news. You Watch it before. And it's figuring out what are the common themes within those videos that likely mean it's another video this common themes you would also want to watch it And that is that is that is. Ai so you can apply that to other things like facebook. It's ability to identify people in photos. It is taking all of the photos that previously talked with yourself finding the Pixel patterns that notch your face and then looking for those same pixel patterns in other photos to see if you're there. Karen also explains that facebook in particular uses a in another less obvious way and that's in determining what shows up in your news feed the data in this case. Is Your behavior on facebook. What you like or react to what you click on comment on all that is data. Facebook collects and then uses to determine what it shows you more of so if you like post by certain friends on certain topics but just those with images then facebook is gonNA show you those posts. I and put the rest down at the bottom of your news. Feed all of that's done automatically by facebook's. Ai Algorithms the same kind of thing is happening when net flicks and spotify recommend a new show or song but their applications outside of social and media platforms to because machine learning is really good at recognizing patterns in images There is now a whole field of research on how to use that technique for Medical images because a lot of cancer diagnosis or other disease diagnosis typically involves looking at an image like an MRI scan a cat scan Or an image of a of a tissue slice or whatever it is And then try to figure out whether it looks abnormal and whether needs to be treated and AI is demonstrating a pretty good Ability to now be able to do that for us at with higher accuracy than human radiologists because human radiologists can get sleepy. They can get bleary eyed Software does not. Karen is quick to point out here that in no way does she think. Ai should outright replace a human radiologists or do the job all on its own A. It's just another tool in your toolbox. It can give you a recommendation for what it thinks. Like whether someone has Malignant cancer node in their lung or something And it's still up to the doctor who has like the actual medical knowledge and the actual patient history and like all of that to make the final call so what about the use of AI in marketing. Since I was at this marketing a conference I was able to catch up with a guy named Nikos Kunia. I'm right now. A partner at Davidson partners we our AI CONSULTANCY. I lead the global AI practice. I'm also a futurist speaker and author now. The speakers at this conference all had slightly different backgrounds and all offered their unique perspective on the topic. I in marketing but what. They all seem to agree on. Is that this relatively new tech of AI and the age old industry of marketing that they were on a convergence path destined to integrate more and more as time goes on. So I asked Nikos why I'll give you one main reason two thousand seven. The iphone came out today. You almost have half the entire world with iphones and so the traditional world of marketing where you have a don draper and his media buddy making few decisions on. Hey let's get this message out for a specific brand to as many people as possible shirts. Vanilla message great. It works it worked then even ten years ago. You can still make that same decision. What do I put in front of Somebody in the Wall Street Journal and Creative Director a marketer? I need to make a decision right now. Up Like what? Do I know about you if I knew something about you? I make a decision about cars. Okay I'll put up a car. Od like I'm black. Okay do you like red so I will infer what I know about you and make that decision. A there are about five hundred billion opportunities to do that today and so there is absolutely no way a single human even get through a thousand so that is the reason why we need artificial intelligence. And why this convergence is happening is that you need to automate those decisions and you need to recognize patterns at a broad scale to get to what marketers want to sell more stuff and to drive business outcomes. So that's where our Bob Cat Marketer? Paul writes here comes back in all racer class of two thousand graduated from the E W Script School of journalism and I went onto found peer. Twenty twenty two the marketing agency and the marketing artificial intelligence institute. Paul founded PR twenty twenty in two thousand and four and more recently established the marketing artificial intelligence institute which hosted the conference. You can read more about the evolution of both Pr. Twenty twenty and the Institute in the latest issue of Ohio Today magazine at Ohio Today Dot Org but for now I wanted to ask Paul to put a is impact on the marketing industry at large in more perspective. To think about all the things you use in your daily life that are powered by so net flicks recommend shows for you based on Intelligence Algorithms. Spotify learns what music you like. Your iphone recognizes your face to unlock it. Facebook recognizes faces. You upload photos so none of that can be done without a so. It's what powers. All of those consumer technologies Amazon. Predicting what you're going to buy an essence it all comes down to these predictions and so marketing is basically trying to apply the same technology to make predictions about what consumers will do next. You're you're trying to predict if you're sending an email Campaign trying to predict what subject line of work? When should we send it? What images should we use the called action be and when you start looking at social media and email and websites? Seo and communications there's applications for AI across every category and it really just comes down to wear in your life. Are you trying to use data to make a prediction about something and when we step back as marketers? The answer is it's like eighty to ninety percent of the things we do so it's that potentially broad impact that can worry people especially those people working in the marketing roles that this technology will affect. Will they be replaced by a computer? Of course disconcerted has felt beyond the field of marketing. Automation has been simultaneously welcomed and feared industries from manufacturing to finance. Still Paul stays optimistic. We're under the working assumption. That within three to five years eighty percent of what we do at least will be intelligently automated to some degree meaning a I will make us better at doing the tasks we do every day. It may not replace the need to have a human doing them but it will enhance the the example. I give a lot as google maps. So when you're trying to go from point eight appointees you use just use a road atlas now Google maps monitors data in real time and it changes recommended route for you to take and all is trying to do is predict the fastest way from A to b the human still decides whether or not to take that advice but the machine has enhanced your ability get from a to B faster and we look at marketing in every facet of marketing the same way. The machine has the ability to provide recommendations to help us predict outcomes better. I love that perspective. It treats a as another tool. It's human centered and positive and even though there was a lot of consensus at the conference around the idea that marketing and a are destined to converge. It's important to point out. Just how far ahead of all poll is and has been again. You can read more about that in our story at a high dot org but Paul's vision to predict this. Convergence has really set them apart in the field. It's what led him to see that a conference like this was needed in the first place to help other marketers. Working on some of the biggest brands get onboard but a new technology disrupting an industry or even a whole society isn't really a new concept. It's happened many times over the course of history. So is there something about? Hey I that makes it. Unique in this regard in a very broad way every technological advancement in history has enhanced what humans can do. It's never tried to emulate human intelligence. So they can only do what humans can teach it to do so. Everything else has been programmed every piece of software. We've ever uses been told what to do by humans. These are machines that don't sleep that can learn from data levels we can't comprehend and they can learn to do things that humans can solve problems. Humans can't so it's different because we've never created anything like it before and you know the quote I always go back to his Sundar. Pichai from Google says. It's the most profound thing humanities ever worked on it's more important than electricity or fire because it can change everything so when you look at these major problems we have to solve climate change in poverty and hunger and cancer and like really difficult things that the human race has been working for decades to figure out and we can't say I in theory can there's no limit to what it can eventually solve. So we've just we've never created anything like it and then when we're done creating it as when it just really gets started because it can improve learn on its own and that's the stuff you see in the movies this idea of general intelligence which we're not there yet and that's a lot of people think that's what it is and they're just frayed of it because it's not a right now is still program to do. Very specific things and learnt from Dayton keeps getting better at those things. It doesn't think of other things to solve. It's not consciously US doesn't use imagination and creativity but it will probably in our lifetimes and when that happens then everything changes. And here's what Else Sets Paul. Apart and this is big. He recognizes the enormous opportunity. Ai Presents and seizing it but he also recognizes the danger of the technology. He asked big questions ethical questions human questions and he wants people to confront these big questions before they just jump in blindly because they I can go very wrong. If it's if people don't approach it the right way it'll give people superpowers which is what we said on stage and they have to be. You have to start from the ground up thinking about the ethics and the morals of how you use it so when I go give talks oftentimes and even when we spoke to the students here though you the questions rarely focus on marketing. After I give a marketing I talk. They always go to what is going to do to society. What's the government doing about it? What do you think about? This is ethical to use facial recognition and profiling people. They just they start connecting the dots and understanding the bigger impact and the more time. I've spent an AI. The more you realize how much of an impact it will have on society and humanity and so our small piece of this world is marketing but marketing touches every consumer and so to me. It's just critical that as we talk about how to do marketing smarter and make it more effective. We don't do it on ethical ways. Because you're gonNA have the ability to do it and I know from having talked to big brands. They struggle with trying to understand where the line is. What is ethical? And what's not and so I just feel like nobody was probably coming to the conference thinking. Oh I hope we have a topic on ethics but I was not going to let people leave without listening to a topic on ethics and will do that again. This year. Like it's GonNa be a staple in we're GONNA start cutting a lot more content around it because I just I feel like otherwise you could look at. What we're doing is just teaching people to better predict and influence consumers and that's not at all what we're in it for so. I I think is a chance to kind of raise. The Bar of what marketing is and the standards that uphold. It can go the opposite way real fast. And that's really it the speed and scale inherent in a high tech. That's what makes it dangerous. Here's Karen Jim. Software is much easier to deploy as technology than other things and a in particular once you find powders. In some kind of data you can then like us. Those patterns to make thousands of decisions at a very rapid rate and it can affect many many many people. And it's it's it's a little different from like actual physical objects that you might have to manufacture for example like you can just deploy it over the Internet like this decisions that facebook makes for example when they are using machine learning those decisions get deployed to like over a billion people. I actually probably more. I don't know how many users they have but whatever like billions billions of people or Youtube another example of unintended consequence of Youtube recommendation. Algorithm is that it's it's become like a pretty intense tool for radicalization. Because if you end up falling into a youtube our the whole you keep going and going and going and you end up getting radicalized. There's there have been studies that show that tears organizations for example. Actually use this to their advantage where they will try to make their content seem related to like very benign content. And then you could just accidentally trip into this like whole that radicalizing you a what. I think is so unsettling about Karen's youtube example in particular is the fact that the danger how it went wrong it was completely unintentional like this kind of outcome is bad enough. And it's not even someone using this technology to purposefully do bad things and before we get too far it's fair to point out. Just how complex so out of these algorithms are what Youtube and facebook and all the other social media platforms are trying to do just in terms of the technical challenge. It is not easy so some respect is owed just because of what they're attempting to do but going back to Paul and Cairns point the speed and scale of the negative consequences are what make this also problematic failure and reiteration are fundamental to technology development. But what happens when the failures can be felt immediately by billions of people and moreover how do you control the bad actors people? Who are out there using this technology with some malcontent. In today's era of fake news. One particular example of this kept coming up in almost every conversation. I had deep fakes right. Fake content fake videos. Lots of things that appear to be real. That aren't deep fakes. Are I would predict as an almost certainty whether next year or four years from now or five years now. This election or the next on the fakes will be an enormous issue. That was Nikos and Paul again and then that last voice was of Mike Kaput who has worked on Paul's. Pr Twenty Two thousand eighteen for about seven years and is now the director of the Marketing Institute and just to quickly explain. What deep fakes are? In case you're familiar. They're basically fake videos generated by a I powered software that makes them indistinguishable from authentic footage as Nikos explains this is made possible by a particular type of AI called GAAP NS or generative adversarial networks. So you can watch a video. It could be Donald Trump doing something controversial wrapping beat boxing. And you in time less than five years. You won't be able to tell the difference of whether or not that video was real super scary when that stuff starts going onto the web so you're GONNA have to regulate that so what can be done. And WHO's responsible for protecting the rest of us from these? Harmful applications of the technology for my responsibility needs to be shared by everyone this stuff impacts whether you're interested in the technology or not. That's okay like not everyone geeks out about this stuff. But it's going to have an impact whether you're technical or not the Internet certainly has a huge impact on you and this stuff will too so I think we're all going to have to get a lot smarter and a lot more curious about. Okay how do we move forward responsibly? In a world where. It's a lot harder to kind of tell okay what's actually true. What's not what is human generated. What's machine generated and things like that to me? This gets to the heart of the debate. The Big Questions Mike and Paul and the whole pr. Twenty twenty staff and lost. The People I met at the conference are asking. Those questions are really more important than anything else hearing those questions. That's what impressed me most about Paul. And how he framed the whole topic of Ai for the hundreds of marketing professionals in attendance and in a lot of ways Mike asking how do we move forward? Responsibly is the answer to his question. Keeping the conversation centered on what is right and what is wrong and keeping that conversation going. Through new unique circumstances that's ethics so since expiration of this new tech of A. I really ended up as an ethics discussion. I wanted to bring in another expert from right here at Ohio University. My name is bound heart debuted teen I'm a professor of journalism. I'm also the director of the Institute for Applied and professional ethics. I asked Professor Deborah Team to start by breaking down when he sees as the ethical issues at stake with Ai to me. The core is probably transparency in a very general sense because we don't know what the Algorithms and Im- implemented values are that are at the bottom of what an artificial intelligence does so there's a high level of transparency which we have already with computer technology or any type of complex technology so with artificial intelligence. We have a situation where we as users probably have absolutely no idea why the system is doing what it is doing how the system is doing what it is doing and so on and so forth so it becomes very opaque and at the same time whenever you have Complex processes and decision making which artificial intelligence ultimately does you have values and ethical decision at stake. And so what happens in effect? Is that we delegate decision making to assist them. That is pretty opaque where we don't know which values which set off Potential preferences are used for decision making and that may or may not be problematic. We don't know and that many fields of application you know anything from medicine where you have a lot of those systems already in place To let's say you know resource exploration there are like oil exploration or things like that. This is where the first expert systems which is early. Artificial Intelligence were developed. And they're they're really good but We have to keep in mind. Each time we do that. We implement the engineers who develop that they implement values into the system and the system starts working based on these values and almost always they are not reflected. There are not thought about in ethical terms. They are thought about another term. Such as you know profitability or you know finding something that we want to find and So we have this problem that we're creating a level of intelligence that's fairly independent and very sophisticated but it is not Ethically trained so to speak and I suppose to at least many. I wouldn't say all you who are ethically trained or ethically in tune but as a human you have at least a potential to be ethically aware and to ask yourself questions about your the ethicality off your decision making and things like that so in this quest design machines that are more human. Will we ever break through this barrier or are these systems destined to simply reflect back the ethics or the intent of those who built them? And if so. Where does that leave the rest of us? Where does that leave? Government's ability to regulate creed is leave private companies responsibility to protect consumers and the rest of society. But these are big questions then. No one can fully answer yet. They're certainly trying. There's a lot of research being done in these areas but Dr deb eighteen and I spoke for nearly an hour and a half and it still felt like we only scratched the surface but again perhaps the answer lies more in the question itself than any specific conclusion with that in mind. We're going to do something a little bit different for us. We're going to publish my conversation Dr deb team in its entirety. We're doing that really for two reasons. One we went way beyond just a high covering a lot of these same issues have come up with technology of all kinds and throughout history and too. I feel that a discussion of ethics shouldn't be trimmed down to just a series of soundbites. No matter how thoughtful you are about it so checkout part to this episode if you WanNa hear that full unedited conversation so if I had to choose one takeaway from reporting this story he'd be that as consumers. We all need to be asking bigger questions more often because this technology will be used in some pretty damaging ways and we'll have to deal with that even Paul as optimistic as he is admits that there will be some pain points in the short term and yes we should be aware of all the waste that can be used but for him. The question is should the fear of that. Negative potential outweigh the hope of something. Better so yeah. It's the unknown of how it could be used. But you can let your mind wander. Just choose not to a lot of times because otherwise shift trouble. Sleeping the example. I always give to make people feel better because I usually. It's not it's not a good way to end. It is the Internet and in like Nineteen ninety-five again. The Internet was twenty three years old at that point but when it became widely used in the public with Internet explorer and Netscape and AOL. You could have looked out to the future and said man. This could go so wrong. And you know you could think about eventually social media and bullying and you know what it would do to people's psyche and the creation of the dark web or elicit things happen all the time and would you in nineteen ninety three ninety four ninety five. Would you stop the Internet? Would you say let's just not do it? It's it could go too many bad ways but then you look at all the amazing things it's done and how it's connected the world and Janesville communicate and brought people together and so you think where some place you can sit here all day and theorize about this dopey and things and they may come true but I could give you ten times as many amazing things that it could do and the end of the day. We don't really have a choice. It's GONNA move forward one way or the other. My feeling is we'll try and do our small part to make sure it moves forward in a positive way. I for one am thankful for people like Paul and Mike and the rest of the team. Pr Twenty Twenty and the Marketing Institute for their optimism and especially for asking the bigger questions challenging all of us to do the same big. Thanks to Paul writes her Mike Opponent Karen how and Nico Securities talking about all this with us and special thanks to Sandy. Young from twenty for helping us out so much the conference and finally big thanks to Dr Deputy for great conversation about the ethics of AI and technology in general. Don't forget to check out part to this episode to hear more of that conversation. If you learn more about Paul you can catch are related story at Ohio today Dot Org he and his team will also be holding the second annual marketing a conference this July in Cleveland. And you can check out those details at marketing. A INSTITUTE DOT COM. This episode was produced by me. Peachy with the help of Clinton aned and as always the unflappable Adam Rich. Thanks for listening

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How To Be Prepared For Anything

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How To Be Prepared For Anything

"People may think that nursing and bartending our two worlds apart, but they're not. They both take care of people always have a smile and make you feel better. Our guest was about to follow that path if he hadn't found himself behind the bar now he has risen to the top and treating people to his cocktail creations. Susan Schwartz. You're drinking companion, and this is lush life podcast. Every week where inspired to live life on cocktail at a time by everyone in this industry. Bacillus. is known well beyond his Athens neighborhood. Not only was he winner of the Grease Diaz your world class competition. But the clumsy the bar he co owns is currently ranked six best bar in the world and has won a slew of other awards. I met him many years ago at tails on tour at imbera where I waited like an eager teenager to meet him after a session, he's been my friend and go to ever since for all things drinking related in Greece. Today I. Finally get to quiz him on. What made him enter this crazy world of hospitality? Before that I just wanted to remind you that most bars are open now. At least in the UK, so please support them. Some still have delivery, so make sure to find out their status before heading out. Stay safe and always drink responsibly. Now, we had to crease with Vasilius. I'm so excited to have you on the show, so thank you so much for being here Athens I always loved to start at the same way. So I'd love to know a little bit about your background where you grew up back, I'm GONNA. I'M GONNA. Make it more now because we're. So I was born in offense in general, so I'm child the for the center. Let's say of the capital. and I was studying nurseries. Since I won't succeed years old I after my high school, I went to the university. Of Patras, which is a? A CD. around two, hundred, five, two hundred and fifty kilometres away from there from the senator from oftens. It's another city of grace. I went there and studied nursing, but to be honest is wasn't my favorite thing. I totally believe. Hold on how why nursing? I don't to be honest. Because my mother used to work in on a medical combining, that was selling. Medicines Wisconsin of thanks and McKay. Would you like the job that I do I said yes. I was like seventeen years old. And you told locate, you might have better promotion. You know better. Let's say flowing into the company. You study this kind of things. So the game I, I will try. My first choice was a to get like died doctor. You know the people let. Dat but I couldn't make it because I didn't study so hard. So, I went to the nursing part in the potter. It was nice because. If you love this job, it's. It's a very difficult job because you have you have the first stats with the people nowadays I think we need to congratulate. All these people that the fighting against the COVID. All around the world I can fill them because this job. If you don't love this job, you cannot do it. It's really tough. Because you, always you always see the, let's say. The, the Bod side of of the people because they are not in the best And they you can see you can feel that. These people always looking at you and they won't Nice War. They want to treat them. Well shot. Totally believe that is like A. Kind of bartending. If you don't love the job, you're GONNA do it. Yeah. I'm hearing. You say a lot of things that bartenders say as well. You know always have a smile. Always the treat someone well, you know, and then that kind of thing. I see why you know you're not the only. Bartender I've interviewed. Who wanted to be a nurse I. Mean it's the only big difference. Is that on the one side? You should but side of the people because. They're not if you're getting into hospital. Of course, you're not in a good situation and on the other side, the you see the good people, the funny part of people, the good side of people you know. which is a sharp you, too? That's why I totally believe that bartenders live more even if they stay out late night because you is that it's likely seeing the positive energy of the of the people, which is very important of course. So, what led you into a working into bar? Nice? That's a good question I mean during my studying in Bhadra. I also I was also working in some. Bars and clubs. But imagine that this goes back to two thousand, six, two, thousand seven. we didn't have. Proper cocktails in just the decide now. As the situation is now. we had the only long drinks basic like motion, Guy Bidding. Yeah, in this kind of stuff. And out of. Personality That was. That, was that was our. Let's say Way To make people happy. but I was lucky enough because since I was working big labs I used to either member used to work on a place called island club. It wasn't the seaside. Lawson's doing my summer vacation in offense. I used to work on a on a body part the cold the garden. which was a nice place with a very nice people of buttressed of atrocity? And I was lucky because I was in on the switching thing of being professional bartender. Because I would say to you that if you if someone asks you a two thousand six. What's your job and you're telling your a bartender? The next question was gay. Will you do that? I mean what else do you do on? What else do you can wasn't a Cedar Job then? But I. I I was lucky because this job was sweets in a series show way at two, thousand, eight, two, thousand, nine in Greece! In there what some bartenders than the previous generation before asa with some around ten. Bartenders that used to see this job more professionally. So I was like enough, because when I was doing my a job nylon club. One of these guys used to work. there. Accused name was Joan some at us. And this Guy Houston around the menu on the island club. It was a first year was the first season of island that more proper cocktails imagine that we were using passion through pure. And caramel and fresh lime, not the pact one. No the Press WanNa the Syrup, or the Europe. And we were say wow, can we mix those things together? It. Was it was? It was a nice thing and and then I realized that I love this job because. I already low socializing with people are already love. make fun with them, but I never thought that this job can be more serious. Realized that working with, John. And he asked me one day you know. Do you believe that you can do this job for your whole life and say yes? I wasn't sure if it was the right answer, but you know it came very naturally. To me I said get our. I. Have Questioned about the the club. What did you see a difference in the The people say that your audience should I say you're the punters. In what they would drink today. You know when you when you change the menu to start using the fresh stuff. Did you find that? They were they were happier, or they liked it, or they could even tell you know where they ordering those things other than the work the Mohegan does you know prepackaged off? It was Lucien to be honest, because I you could see after that the of people charging for good boss all around nothing's. And they were asking for the you know. The was passion fruit, and the cocktail was a Mungo, the fresh Mungo and cocktail was there Kara, Melania cow and and lime so people. Started to ask for more. Complex cocktail at the same time of two thousand nine Babu Ram Open. About I'm into. Your visit when you were since that was the first. Gokul bar that the of course about specialized on rumps, because a big selection of defend rams around work. And this bar. started to blend different rams creating house, homemade ingredients like neum in this kind of stuff and. At the same time, instantly old bartenders Athens wanted to work there. Be. I was one of those two. I wasn't likely to work at Bob I'm, but that was likely to work for a short time in way better, Wu, which was also the author bottom, the seaside part of the foster inside the was running was making that this kind of does. And I'll let him know I have. A lot of things from bartenders like George Ball goes in the Jones petry's, which were already involved thin on this. On this part of doctors. So at that time. Did you say okay? Forget the nursing, mom. Sorry. I'm not going to do that anymore, did you? You'll say bye-bye forgotten sorry I found what I wanted to do. You know I think it was a decision to be honest because he didn't know if this job is going to be the way that this is now a days, you know. No one knew if this job is going to be as bright as it is nowadays. Since then it was, was only a job that everyone was accepted as a secondary job. So but. I loved it and I said okay. I I was also liking because a two thousand ten. They're the the world class competition, the global finals. took part in in Greece. So where were you working? Then? Were you still in the club? In the I'm sorry in the Bar and Italian, I started in a in a ingredients I I starting in island club, and then I went to a bar. That does not exist anymore now. old you. And then I went to a very. Big historical a bottle of the sender call eclipse. It was the same eclipse that you. You have in London this ain't. Let's say style. And then I went to to better boop, the battle of the. I'm telling you now. And then from Peta, I. Let's say Made Defense Consulting and I was working on a small bottle of offense called relative. And, so so, when where were you when you started to to compete? And he was there competing before world class in Greece, it's out. We had some local competitions like competitions with their skin my. Will have the dishonor competition I did a couple of competitions before class I was also competing work last by the I went to the finals the fourth time that I I I. I was competing to be on, and it was very. It was a difficult situation. I was working in the in the join two thousand twelve. And I did the top ten at work last Global Greg Finals and then I realized that. The arrest of the nine bartenders that were competing with where the top bartenders of town. Yeah, it was donald from It was modified that one of the Fed's bought a female bartenders that the gray jobe narrow. It will join US my mentor. It was a joyous boggles the other mentor. Nichols Buckley's my partner now and. One of the best bartenders in the world I mean I was completely underdog to be honest. But you still ten. Yeah, but run and. The final took then I was I, think I was the last person that the I was thinking that is going to win. And then I did talk three, because that was the way that the world was being in this year in in in Athens and then they dope three guys. We went to the to the London. And all the European, top three bartenders were competing against the other Greek bartender. SORTA India's bartenders, and how we every country was releasing the first winner and overall. To the challenges that we did, we had one winner. And I was lucky because I won't one of these challenges all over Europe. which I saw, what was the challenge was calling. Flying down to Rio. You had to make to drinks that. They were listed expression because global final was. The NATO. And? We'll have to make drinks that they represent the express the contrasting. Thinks that you can finding Razzie. Of working in Brazil for me. The most contrasting thing is that it's people in their put people. Try to remember I. What I did is they went to a foster artist here and I design. A shirt was half. Let's say deputy and Nutso so goods. And on the on the other hand was more formal so. That was one part was was expressing the pool. Part of the of the of the people in the other was expressing their. It's part. And one cocktail was more I found. What poor people in Brazil used to drink in the femoral more happy. And it was a coke. They like like a let's say being allowed that with partial food because Pasha for find anywhere in Brazil. It's a fruit that everyone can have and it was. It was about it, but it is a very additional coq daily now in Brazil, and the on the other part I I made the Coakley with some pain. It was dedicated to that. It's people so I won't tell US ALL OVER EUROPE was was. It was a whole concept. Yeah Fabulous, then I to the BL- finals of a world class and I I did like I. Didn't I didn't go to? While I was at seventy to fifty bartenders in the the final was up sixteen, so I didn't make A. But for me, you know. The problem with with a competition, sometimes, it doesn't matter if you don't win the competition. The main singing competition is that you are connected with people all around the world. You can make very nice friendships. You can make very good contacts with people. And this helps you a lot in in your in your future in your career. So what did I. Didn't I didn't want the competition? But I WANNA love friendships. And a lot of Nice people from our industry, and I met them, and I met them again all around the world. Enter I continue my laugh at the dean. Join because in two thousand dollars working on the Ginger Bar. And then I was lucky enough because I met I, knew Nichols Broccoli's. One of my partners we were very good friends, but he came in. Join us to the GIN joints. So? We did a very nice do. Let's say very nice cocktail. Group. with me Nikos, we worked. Together. It was like a veteran is link. And then my partners that I have now from the clumsiness. They were also having a cocktail bar called theory. It's how Landry calendar suburb habit of oftens, and it was one of the newest one of the one of the most popular and a very high value, big boss of Athens. And the one day the game to Washington. They said they said to me gave. Acidity won't open about in the center of office. Would you like to be part of of our bar? I said Yes of course I'm GonNa, to with Nicole, who gonNa make it very nice team and we're going to run the bar and it's going to be. To make it also the national bar. Not only about that, it's going to be well known in the ingress. And then we we, we did the clumsiness. All right before you get to the club meetings why you're at the gym joint. were. How did you see Greek drinkers change? You know. What did you see over the years that you worked there? And what did you what what I realized that the enjoy? Is that the you know? The Ginger was obviously a team bar. So we had the big range of jeans on the back and I could feel that the. People were coming in order to taste new spirits new James. Because you know the great people are gene lovers. They love Jim. In dinner. They're more white spirits lovers. So what I didn't know that now, I didn't know that. The Spanish obviously the English up. All the Mediterranean Ed is more. They, prefer more. Wide Spirits and especially gene. We had a lot of people that they were standing. Instead of using the option. Lada genes like Tanqueray, Gordon Bombay befit. Their people were coming in asking for different. Style of James With different style tonics and different style of garnishes. And the people were starving and asking for the proper, mushy or appropriate Manhattan or a broker that I Martini. At that was successful part. For, I'll drink. Yes, uh-huh, and then they started to us for cigarettes. Cocktails Afar off our bod-. That was also another that help a lot. You know our industry to go up. Do you think the Greeks love of white spirits is because. They are have always drunk white spirits. You know mystique and cheaper. Oh No. Way Spirit. Because or do you think it's just a love of John? I think this is because there are two main factors. One is because they love. Jane said before the same time. It's because you know in Greece. From. April to November We have hot weather's. Who have hot weather. You know the temperature is much more higher, so people prefer more refreshing drinks than boozy drinks. It's not so easy to drink. Sometimes you know smoked. We skewed during July. You prefer something more depressing. So people always always always mostly choosing more refreshing and more mix. spirits and dean of those for sure. Yes then of course. Chin joint would be one of the. FAMOUS BARS? In him I say I still remember. men Nichols making around the four hundred in. You've been to the ginger and when you get to grace. Is A tiny body. It was because it now. It's close They made it. The on closed the place and he opened another nice bar called a locally. Which means local in Greek. but It was a tiny bar who have only had only one station would working behind the bar everything was you know? Stocked and diversity pressed, but we did every night. We did that out four hundred, the coke, taste but night. Yeah that's it was crazy. Very nice atmosphere very cool cocktails. It was it was an eye Susan to be honest I. I think for three years and a half. And especially the last year that I was working with Nichols was my favorite. So you were presented with this opportunity to open pretty much any kind of far guess, international bars who said? WHOA! Had you been thinking this whole time Oh my God. If I could have a bar, it would be this. You know and what was this? What was? Were you thinking? What of these that we wanted to do? What the in our bar? Because we were started talking a lot with Nichols, so if we could have the opportunity to drop in a bar how we'd how this could be! Of course you had this kind of thinking in our minds. And I was lucky enough because I. I think my last. My last year. My last season of of the gene join You know the factory. Of course hearing I I was I was I had to get there and do estates with these people. And this gave me a lot of no leads of how you can work. The point the way of thinking in order to make more complex drinks. So I was amazed when I when I go there and I show that Zoe and the rest of the team how they work with a with a flavor and the staff the tools that they used to do that and I sit the Nikos a gay man. I love that style of food drinks where we do our bar I think. We need to focus a lot on lot of how we can make our more complex. Because There are so many ways to do it. So we had this kind of idea. and. The guys my partners. Lift the other partners. Lift areas your. Science Gushing George. Case. Service wanted to open also. High Volume Bar in the center of Athens so one of the very first, that was a high bar. And the same I'm It wasn't a small bar in the center. Let's say. So? We did a nice combination of having the Nash a high bar with. Running the KOCHTA's in our prep room upstairs with them a lot of modern stuff. And I think that was the key because. That was the key that attracted a lot of professional scenario. You're not about it because. We working fuss. Auf Drinks with consistency and at the same time we were trying to create in our body. Nice going Let's say a nice easy going vite. Imagine that the campus on on a on a weekly basis. We're busy especially on winter. We might set up to two thousand cookies per week. Tracing at you know within, how do you I? Know and you have upstairs, which is? which we'll talk about that, but. You know. How do you keep it? From. Getting out of control. How do you keep the each cocktail being what you want it to be? When it served at such a high volume? I think the preparation is the key. Always always a negative part of the far live to be honest, being prepared is the key being prepared for everything. To sink in my opinion, two things you. Can you need to keep in mind when you ran the high volume bar? One is to get prepared for that. And, at the same time to say that I can't do nothing I can do it. I think the point of view of each proficient has to be that I don't get. I will do everything I wanted to do and I will make a copy on the best way. So what we did is that we said the gay. We're going to prepare a lot of stuff upstairs. To our preparation room and we will try to make our coalition one or two bottles. Joining Guy Shift at the bar. And the worker, because okay, you might have. You might spend a lot of hours on preparing on your focus upstairs, but when you have to make the cocktail, you focus more to your customers, because you're not is very easy. And, very consistent. So for me, that was the key. Not to run are not to panic. You know with so many people into our place. And tell me about upstairs up. So officers, two main floors listen to maintain. One is our room as I told you before. Is The plays that we have our modern stuff to work with a with a coke, a and of course great our skis. And be more creative and next to have a place called the room. which is like a living room inside with a pool and a table and a bookmark full of winter spirits that everyone book. Everyone but it's only for ten to fifteen people. So you've got to get your friends, you're coming upstairs. You stay there all night and you have the bartender from our team making drinks for you. We don't have menu. We only do more classic cocktails. Let's say and we try to make cookies without menu. So. We are talking with people. Wish what you want. What's your? What's your mood? What you prefer and we're trying to customize as much as we can you know? The the type the style of cocktail that Oughta people want to taste. So when people say oh well, I like him. Okita but I don't want that or should I say. Do people usually leave it up to you. Or are they pretty honest or do they say no I? Really really want this one we're going to, both if some assist, was you know I want this WanNa specifically? If someone says trust you do whatever you like. which is making some quick questions like what's your style? What's your mood now? What you prefer to drink and we are tied to customize as much as we gone. He's flavor or or should flavor. And so downstairs I know you say you don't have a menu upstairs downstairs. Four say you're just about to open your first bar that you apart of. Where did you start with the menu they're? Like how many drinks did you have? You were choice. We always about on the seventeen to eighteen drinks in our menu, which are menu every year and every year we have different conceptual menu. Let's. Imagine that the last the last menu that we have the clamps qualitative visited. Any the of is that we took all the recipes that. Are Bestsellers from the past menus. Imagine that our bodies changing a couple of times, and we give this cocktails to our bartenders, and we said to them okay, just keep the identity as it is an odd your own style to the drink. So that's why we call it the revisited. Or we did this kind of concepts in our managed evident every year which ends a menu? That's that's the thing that we do. So you opened. And then all of a sudden you're getting all of these awards, so topped me about some of the you know finding out that you were up for spirited awards and world's Best I'm all of that stuff I mean. That was something that we had in our mind since we open, but we weren't sure if it's going to be that way. We always thinking about getting into the fifty best bars lays getting into the cocktail of the cocktail lists. And waning some big local awards, but we never thought that the clamps is going to be like that. But, at the same time where we said since we're open, is that we are going to I invite. Some of the key people here for industry in order to show them. How important. Each come to offense first, and then to the cleanses and take our boss. So I I guess, we had was Eddie Lawrence. Gordon's. Listen. To one of their legends Afar. Afar Afar industry and at the same time what we wanted to so hyun is only the cleanses, but the whole financing. Because for me, it's very to get into a place to stack only into into. You need to show to the people how your community works. So since Eric game without, we throw them. Plaza Nice Bodices of offense. Nice Restaurants, coffee shops, sight, seeing offense and he got amazed, so he went back to his to London start. Let's say talking about the clumsiness. And how good was a Athens and Columbus do? And then we have Ryan Teddy. and we had the same experience and he loved the are bar an offense and they will have the cocktail lovers. We did the same, and then we start making these inviting different people in our in our place in our city. At the same time. The Greek bar show. was becoming bigger and bigger. And that helped us a lot because the last five six years getting about so for me. It's one of the. Most important events all over the world. And also big choice wasn't is is inviting lot of. Industry people in this these people coming to our place. And they see what we do, and this is very important for us at the same time so I think. All. The industry people that came to the Bar They show that we do something different. And at the same time it's it's a it's a barra. There's not located in. In London or New York on a big city you know. So often the smaller city, but people appreciate that you can find everything around us. Yes! Yeah. It's a city that it's it's hard. Not Fall in love with it. You know and the. And the same you know. That help a lot, not only the campus, but the whole industry and the whole Athenian scene of A. So I think that the some of these people. Transfer their opinion? Let's check express their opinion other in the people. And now that other people get game themselves through our place, and at the same time one of the things that we did it make it made sense sense, not only Greece, but in the whole world. Is that we instead of making? gift bartenders with one guest. bartending's with one bartender or two. We decided to make a pop ups. So the festival proper, we did that. two, thousand, sixteen or fifteen. I'm not sure was cool. The American bar the American the hotel. The hotel bars the classical bar. That would that was the that was Let's say the the concept, so we invite. Some of the best hotel bars all around the world. In what what we did these that we re construct the building next to the cleanses as a big hotel. And was it. How long did it runs six hours? So just one one nine six hours, and that was the key because imagine instead of instead of making Let's say social media for the one two three days, which is not so good because after three days you're missing. People don't get focused of what you do in six hours. All over the world knew about this pop up and the people that. Were attending. And so where so where would what hotels were they from? Savoy was a lobster. It was done the lion. It was Manhattan. It was and sater. It was norma. Time of the best huddle bars in the world, and then the next year will be the American dream bar. We invited the same like American bodice. Some. I'm important partial Medica from United States and we found another building and we re constructed as A. America neighborhood. And after that, we did the pope up with the Latin. American people swing. Latin American box on rooftop that we found we recall starting as a Latin American style with live music and. And customize cigars and Latin food. And we did the same. And the last one was. was a the TIKI bar. We found beats widow, starting the same as Dickie Style bits. Bits Party with some of the most important on Tiki bars. must've that all of these things. Giving popularity. Let's say in people that coming realizing how hard we work in order to be you know on a on a good Wayne in international level. At the same time, what's so what industry people appreciating in my opinion is that they're coming to a bar that sometimes. On on a normal way, because now we're not normal decision but we are normal We should should've up to three hundred people at the same time. Foss with consistency. Totally believe that industry people appreciate that a lot. Know I've been on a Saturday. Last. August. So I guess. I guess now you realize that this is a This is a career you can have. But. What I wanted to get back to was what when did you find out I mean are? How did you react? Obviously you must be excited, but found out especially last year that you were six on the list of world's best in the world is a big place. You know all up. To be honest to be honest they. This is the second time we are six. the fifty based. We started as a two when we open. After six months, we were at the twenty two position. And then from celebrity started at the. So then we went to nine position. Then, we went to the six position than seven and then back to six. Yeah and. I to be honest me and the team. We weren't sure that we're going to be in this position this year because new bodies were coming. Fifty Best I mean the whole industry poses more ACM bars, so we said the gate where we're heading into the least, but we're not sure that we are going to be in the same way, but we will find I mean the last five years we are on the on the top ten at the top fifty, which is very important for for us on the problem and they list. We're starting to counting and there were. We realize we're six again then. We were so excited about it because you know. We realized that we are not because the first year you should get might be only by lack. Second Year you say the same. After the year that you're on the top ten in three times, Russia gate. Industrializing how hard we work! And we do something right. For us. Now you know it's funny since I've lived in England and I I am I'm with someone who loves Greece and is from Cyprus, so I know a lot about the Greek spirit and. Because we drink a lot of them, I've seen the popularity of things like mystique. See Parole. Iraqi they are just growing and growing and growing has. Has This surprised you? Or how have you you have you started? Did you always use those in your cocktails or just starting now that they're becoming popular? I think I think it's A. Combination to be honest. Because most of the people most of the Greek people used to bring this kind of spirits only with food. Not with not mix not mix them in in cocktails, but since barbaric bartenders start to. Become more than more creative. They start to use more more experience. And, then the combined is a training. realized that they need to invest in. Make better spits, too. So it was a good combination, not only for the spirits, but for the bartenders. To get motivated and US, more and more good experience today. To their cocktails, I'm going to give you. A damps one for us, is they? Auto suffers vermouth that we do with. Me Today for myself in Nikos. In collaboration with a Greg somebody that also missing. The skin was musty her. so we did one of the Fed, the Greek venomous in the modern history of of of Athenian Greg Greg Greg nothing unseen. It's a Mediterranean venomous. That focuses more to the good experiences in Europe's. Because you know. I have a question on that which I was going to bring up anyway. Why ever moves because I saw that you start? Particular is becoming more and more popular all over the world and we said Gay. We have nowadays a good quality of whining. Greece we can find easily fresh fruits, and we can find easily shapes and spices all over Greece. Why don't we try to make a very appropriate? Nice venomous? So. If you taste autos, you will see that it doesn't look like an Italian vegetables or a friend's variables is completely different. and. That was because we didn't want to make an Naza good. Looks like anytime. We want make a venomous. That is going to create an identity in our INADA category and the same time. The other example is the operates. It's it's it's a cheap poodle. And you, it's. That was created by by ten talented graphic bartenders. Lady Denies Colombo Asian. They released the reciprocal. It is released. I think from the beginning of this year, and it's amazing. Next anger coming to grips. You have to taste. It's so good so. I want to say in general that these these came because we had the good combination and a great collaboration between bartenders and Greek. Combine is appeal producing spirits. It was like a combination. And and both of those the will remove obviously goes into two drinks of the CHEAPO. Do you see that as something that you drink by itself or that you? Like they used to do with food or to combine for cocktails on the all time. They used bringing Dolly with food. Nowadays. Nowadays. They combine it a lot to the couture cocktails. And they. The, the the one that you specifically created a with the ten bartenders is that. For to go to be combined with. Or to drink by at line with COQ. Mostly in. Combined with long things with tonic showdown with this kind of stuff. It's amazing. It's amazing the packaging the flavor is so good. So I, guess we're left to say what's what's next for you? Are you? Are you planning to do another hotel? I mean we're talking about in normal times. We're GONNA. Pretend that it's normal times. The next, the very next thing for me is now we around with Nico's? My particluar partners Nicol my fans, and my father and my brother be honest, weird involved on a beach barrister in Crete island. So we are A. we have a collaboration with another bartender that he used to work at the clam. This for us and you went back to create. And we'll go to collaborate. Denies. Project in in Alaska Bitch is going to be a bits bar restaurant with the canteen, and what going to save more flashing drinks and We're going to settle in collaboration with Steph. Cut On food? So. This one is going to start on Saturday. and. You guys are allowed. Right yeah. Yeah, you've done so well and. I. Think that's the next thing that we're going to do and. We need to see because we need to see what's going to happen with the virus and all the stuff in a number. And I think after Tom where we're. GonNa have. More plans. To do. More things all right well. We will definitely visit you that this. Guarantee I can actually see you in person of course of course of course whenever you want your mother welcome. and. It has been such a joy to I. Feel like I'm in, Greece. July were increase usually any fraught me right there. Come on July is going to be open, so you find time in euro gave. All the contents and this kind of stuff you're more than welcome. Thank you and thank you so much for being on the show I really appreciate. It was so great to finally learn about the clumsy in its origins. I can't wait to get back to Athens. I then asked facilities for his top tips for the home bartender and where he would like to be right now if he could choose any place in the world. So. Can you tell me your top tips for the home bartender? Think for me. The top tips is that you can use any tools that you can have in your house. I mean It's nice to use a spoon or SNA good goodies your knife since that. If you want to steer a coastal, it's it's you, don't you? Don't have to share its for special tools in your house. At the same time you can do more built cocktails and keep the flavored the consistency on them. It's very important because it's more easy to make because. Instead of making Sagan cooking in your house. And the same time bring your friends. That number of current in and try to keep your positive vibes, because that's very important, even if you are in your house or in your bar got little little Grecian hospital exactly because pathology. Important everywhere. Now if you could be anywhere drinking anything right now, where would that be I would love to be in Puerto Rico with my rose from Lubbock Maria, and enjoying together the cocktails and view, and the sun, and the visor our love that send my love to the guys. I'm sending my love. He may be dreaming of Puerto Rico but his cocktail. The week brings us closer to his home. Cocktails and a can have been super trendy right now, and you can only buy our cocktail of the week and a if you live in Athens. So, we are really lucky. The Bacillus is sharing the recipe with us. Our cocktail of the we combines a little Athens and a little London. which is how I feel at least when I'm in Greece. It's called the Athenian Spritz. You can build this cocktail and a wine glass filled with ice. Measure out fifty miles of autos, Athens vermouth and added to the glass. Then, add fifteen miles of rhubarb. Cure infused with coffee beans. Then top it all up with London essence, grapefruit and Rosemary Tonic. 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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 232: V Wars Season 1 Episode 9

GSMC SciFi Podcast

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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 232: V Wars Season 1 Episode 9

"Golden state media concepts side podcast. Gather. We dive into the world, Scifi science fiction from APSOS. Star Trek Star Wars to the. Resident in the. Science fiction movie from the Backdoors Marvel or DC golden state media cut. Sifi pub gaps. You'll never get science stations the same way again. I. Did. In GSM see Saifi. PODCAST brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I'm your host Alex. Today we are talking about V. Wars, season one episode, nine. Our last episode ended off with Luther Swan being prepared to talk to the Senatorial Committee on something related to Dns, having some overreach and putting people on Internment camps, and possibly also murdering Claro O'Hagan. Now Luther previously told Senator Sasha's zero that he would go through with this and testifying for her, and gladly do so in order to prevent more people from dying. However it looks like. Kayla Nicklaus as a different idea, and just as luther is about to testify Nikos walks in with his ex wife. Rachel. Losers, Rachel. And sits down with her and has an arm over her. That's very clearly threatening because she looks also incredibly terrified. So, luther freezes a deer in the headlights there for a moment, and they think that he's not going to say anything and they go take time away, and then he decides just go ahead and call them out on it, and he lets them know. Hey. I'm scared right now. The if I tell you guys the truth, they're going to kill my ex wife. You see that guy back there. He is terrible person, and he is the head of this organization, and he is holy. My wife hostage right now. And then he decides to go ahead and go all the way off about all of it at least now, people in the room or aware of Rachel's presence. It's not very likely that they're going to be able to kill her. At least while he is in the process of speaking or even sneak her back out of there, because everyone, all the reporters and everyone are snapping all these pictures and everything of them. And that's where this episode opens is right where the last one left off, and with Luther knowing the stakes are super high right now and that all of these people are going to die if he does not go ahead and call them out now that he can't let the Fascism train keep on rolling past him when he knows where this is going to ultimately lead. And I'm really proud of Luther for coming out and saying something. I figured that he would, but there for a second I was like wow, he really just going to walk out of there right now. That's a terrible idea. I mean it's very kind and sweet towards his ex wife. Don't give me wrong. You can have empathy in different directions and I get why he was hesitant, because it's the mother of his child, whose life is at stake and everything but ultimately. If you're looking at it in the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few then, this is something that was like okay. When maybe luther is just GONNA. Let this ride there for a second, but I'm pleased that he went ahead and called them out. He just blew everything up but I'm not entirely certain. He was necessarily ready to blow all of that. That up, not ready per save rather prepared. He's not as prepared as he could have been had Rachel, not been captured and I don't mean to place blame on Rachel at all. She's done her best. She's already shot a federal agent, so she's doing a fantastic job so far, but since that is his weak spot, luther weak spot is always going to be people. That tends to be the heroes weak spot a ton of the time. So since that is also the case for Luther Swan. He's going to go ahead and. Not Throw her under the bus, but he is going to protect her and try to do the smart thing this time because he knows he can't trust the government, even if he does not speak the truth and just sits down, they will still have access to in custody of Rachel at the end of the hearing period, so that's not good, either so I think he makes the best decision that he ultimately can to ensure what he believes to be the best possible outcome, and it would be the best possible outcome if things were more my little pony I guess on this show. However, it's not so. He goes off and he's like. Hey, they have people in Internment camps. They are putting specifically the vampires in there, but also a lot of people who just been exposed and not even everyone's GonNa turn, and of course the senatorial floor just erupts. People are all yelling over top of each other. You know silencer. Let him finish your. That's slander or just the general uproar of everyone who's. WHO's in the audience as we've seen from some recent Senate, Judiciary Committee meetings Senate Judiciary Committee meetings and confirmation meetings in the past four to five years. Sometimes they're even celebrities like Elissa Milano in those seats or family members of individuals or just folks who wanted to be present for the hearing. Sometimes you can go and see a lot of different types of hearings and ongoing 's from your local representatives. Especially your capital, so that's something you're interested in. You can definitely go check that out, but that's why you can also see you some random people in there, too. And this isn't really any different envy wars there are a lot of folks whom will probably never meet their just folks who were there to watch history unfold even if they're not necessarily reporting on it. And so the reporters start freaking out to and everyone's freaking out a different way. And meanwhile luther keeps yelling over top of everyone, or at least trying to, since he has access to a microphone, but so do the committee members, and he's pointing and yelling and making eye contact with Nikos and is making sure that people are getting the real picture and in the meantime. Michael and EVA are watching him on television. The vampires are seeing what he is having to say. And by seizes an opportunity to really get the humans and the vampires to start getting along or find some kind of truce, so Michael Decides to use this as an opportunity and is trying to figure out how he wants to do that. In Asia is really starting to disagree with him a lot more. In this part of the story and Michael is like look. We just need to wait for the right time, and our moment will come to us, but she seems incredibly reluctant to do so. She's really fiery and I mean she's not only vampire, but she's nineteen years old and she's told him that before. Hey, I'm only nineteen. Are you sure you want me to be your second command and to do this stuff? And Michael makes her Saint Command. Now don't get me wrong. Eva is very intelligent and is a good second in command. In a lot of ways, but she also tends to go off on her own little. Side missions sometimes like she first starts out going. Hey, Michael said we can't feed on humans outside of the designated feeding times or feeding parties. You can't be doing that, too. You know designing. Hey, you know what I hate you. I'm to join in on this. She's very affected by her emotions in that way and Abbas prone to having her feelings hurt and just manifesting that as anger a lot and also. Anger in general, so that's forming more of a source of contention between her Michael Not to mention Michael's relationship with Danika. So, that's not going great, but. It's going to be really help us out when it comes time to ask Michael to meet in order to come to terms. Michael is resistant up to this point in meeting with the humans to discuss any terms. He doesn't want to stop and talk to any of them right now or at all in future period, he's not interested in humans for the most part. But. He does need to find a way to keep the vampires, alive. Could really care less than humans, but he wants. Keep the vampires alive. So senators row on the other hand feels the same way about the humans, and she is treating the vampires. They are humans. Just, like she would any other constituent for the most part that is otherwise hostile. But she's a really seeming to be genuine person and I like her a lot. So she is also going. Hey, maybe now's the right time that we should be meeting for this. This is really important and. She tries to take advantage of the opportunity in a positive way to go through and arrange to meet with Michael Cain for the peace treaty, but Michael's like no, I'm not dealing with senators. He doesn't like politicians and Luther explains that to her. He's like look Michael did not like politicians or the government or trust them in any way prior to even becoming a vampire, prior to having been hunted down by them, and she at by them in these situations of him, following what he considers to be his new true nature. And he explains to her. He's not going to trust politicians anymore. Now that they have frequently tried to kill them now the government has frequently tried to kill him and people who are like him and put them in cages. Why on Earth would this person trust the government now? Even if they are saying, they're offering a peace treaty especially if they are offering a peace treaty as far as he's concerned, it may just be a Trojan horse. So. We know that he's not going to talk to Sasha, but luther the same appeal that he had tried before with Clare Hagen and he says look let me go and talk to him I know where I can go and to him, and we can work on this and I think that we can really come to terms. He is my brother. He's again. Referring to Luther is still being his brother and. And his look, this is just a difference of opinion and I know that Michael's reasonable and he doesn't want to hurt people, and that's all we really want is for vampires to not hurt people, so let me go in an appeal to his better nature. He trusts me. He knows me and even if he might still have some lingering anger with me for what I did before I know that he'll still. Trust me. He will still trust me over you anyway. I may not be. Ideal chance, but I am. Our current best chance is what luther is really trying to get across to her and she's super hesitant. She's like look I mean under. What authority would you even do that? Why would you be qualified to have this conversation with him? You're not a trained negotiator. New are not associated with you. Know trying to make people don't kill other people in any way you're. Don't even law enforcement dude. She's saying. You know you are a scientist. You're not a political scientists. Even you're like an epidemiologist so W-. Why should you be able to negotiate on behalf of the US government with these new? Species people. This new group that we are facing and he's like you know that's a good point, but you know right now. It's more of an emotional intelligence type thing, then it is a you know an intellectual intelligence. It's not about what Luther knows about the law. It's how well he knows Michael and Michael's heart, and the approaches that would be both beneficial, and also the person that Michael is least likely to kill. We've already seen even when the wounds really fresh from Luther, having betrayed Michael to the cops, regarding having killed that girl, and that resulted in Michael, being picked up and taken in. And, ultimately you know using that guy body to catch bullets, and then also jump off the stairs and Kushner's blow in his superhero, landing or super villain anti hero landing. But we got to see that earlier because Luther head betrayed his brother, and even when he was super upset about it, though when Luther went to go see him. Right after clear, O'Hagan had approved the same move that Sasha is about to approve. Michael still didn't hurt him. Even when the wound was super fresh, so he's even less likely to harm him now. At least in my opinion, it makes sense, and he is ultimately successful and his appeal to Sasha regarding going to see Michael, but she does make some stipulations for them. We're going to go on a quick break. And when we come back, we are going to talk about some of those stipulations and how this actually pans out as our heroes try to reach a truce. What movies to go see and check out the GS. AMC movie podcast. It's your ticket to the latest movies whether it's a new blockbuster event, romantic comedy or action flick. This show has got it all covered. They talk some what to go. See now, don't bother. What's hot on Netflix and everything in between. That's GMC PODCAST DOT COM. Back. Slash movie dash podcast when it's all about the movies. It has to be this new show. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Jesus MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. took. Depor the ranks we were talking of where we left off in episode eight of season, one of V, wars and where season nine starts. With Luther, full laying the DNS on the floor of the Senate committee hearing. It's very clear where he stands on this and he called them all the way out. In the meantime Michael Will. have been arguing about whether. Now is the time to strike, or if they need to wait longer and Michael has ultimately decided to meet with senator. Sasha Giroux who is luther friend, BUT NOT SASHA herself. Her representative in the form of Luther Swan so luther is the only person Michael is willing to speak with. And he wants assurances that Michael is able to do what he's supposed to do. Eva and Danika end up in a little. His e contest with each other regarding. Who should get to go with Michael on this momentous event. Even if neither of them are necessarily keen on a truce with the humans. But they are also posturing their dominance over each other and ultimately Michael chooses neither of them. He takes care leave. Oh, with him instead. Katie has so far proved to be a valuable ally. She has also proven to be a super. Genuinely helpful one who really has the same. Type of mission that they do. She also wants. DNS taken down so even though she's not a blood herself. He does feel some sort of a kinship Kaley. Also, he could easily kill her like that. It would not be hard for Michael to do that or any of the vampires to that for that matter, but Kayleigh appears to have Michael's protection within blood nation. They know since she was on camera to for the video that she released the propaganda. That she's involved since she is also exposed to herself as being the head of Reva leaks. So Kaley goes with him and is. He explains to the other two. You know also pragmatically. I'm strong enough to handle this, but she is human, so she also functions as a hostage. She's on our side, but she also functions as a hostage. and. This doesn't really actually seem to upset kingly all that much. Which I think is really funny. She standing right there. She can hear them, but she's like. Yeah, that makes sense. Let's go and get this done, and that's one of the things that I like about Kaley. On the other hand, Luther also gets to bring one person with him, and he brings Jimmy Saint so Jimmy is assigned to Luther Safety, but Jimmy also doesn't seem super concerned about what is going on here with Michael Either Jemmy. Seem to have any prejudice against Michael or van Pairs is what I'm saying. I think. That Jimmy has seen enough of the evil of humanity that for him. This is largely not all that different. He has been through it recently with the Motorcycle Club, and you know bobby really struggling to hold on the last of the. Stability he had going on beforehand in the midst of. was definitely some addiction problems, but what also seemed to possibly be some untreated or mistreated? Type of mental health issues and I'm not sure with the appropriate term would be, but a mistreated. In case he was self medicating. For something else by taking these drugs to help him, forget or to help him tried to escape some sort of pain. I'm not really trying to set bobby up as a sympathetic character. What I am saying is that there are reasons often that people go awry and sometimes that trauma. And, in the case of Bobby, I think that it seems that there may be more going on with that character than just him being mean now. Maybe he is just mean but most of the time I find that people are the way that they are for a reason. That doesn't exempt them from attempting personal growth or You know from meeting to try to be a better person, but it does help us understand things. And those types of situations are partly why I always tell y'all that I care a lot more more interested rather in the motivations behind villains than I am behind heroes. Unless. They're like an anti hero. I want to know more than just. Oh, this is a good person, so they do good because they are good or they are good because they do good. Because that sets up this situation of this person's evil. Just because they do bad things, they could stop at any time and they choose not to. Just because they're evil. It's a kind of circular logic that I don't really enjoy because it's a little bit boring and let's face it. Humans are more complex than that, and that is what the shows partly about, and it's also what Jimmy is recognizing when he's accompanying. Luther to this meeting. He knows that humans are complex, and they can be really kind, and they can be really terrible and everywhere in between and the just because someone. has some different genes doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be any better or any worse to you. Anyone can kill, and Jimmy seems reluctant to place that blanket statement on them Jimmy can also really handle himself. He has come face to face with Danika before. Although Michael and Jimmy are not aware that they both know the same person at least I. Don't think so, unless maybe Jimmy that commercial and put into together Edano, it was dark, and he was out in the woods, chasing him after Bobby told him to, while they were still threatening. Losers life back in like episode five six seven. Something like that. You guys know what I'm talking about. So Jimmy has had contact with vampires before he has also seen humans murder people just because they were afraid. And that's Jimmy's whole thing is he's not down with just killing out of fear, and he is someone who's prepared for this. He knows he can handle himself, and so because he's not straight up always afraid and he is in fact prepared. He is more confident and comfortable just as Kaley is. kaylene understands her part in all of this to, and is totally fine with the fact that she is there to protect Michael by being a hostage. Really even as Jimmy is there to protect luther. In a different capacity in more of a physical capacity. Instead of you know. Preying on someone's reluctance to harm and otherwise innocent bystander. After all Kaley is essentially functioning as like press in a war zone. This isn't an officially declared war per se, but that is what Kelly is doing, and so they are recognizing her place in in getting the word out, and Luther is also a noncombatant who is still involved in the war efforts. He's just working on these scientific portion of it, and so he Kaley have a lot of that in common, too. I like that we get to see these different intersections between these characters and I wasn't expecting to see Lutheran Kaley to again anytime soon. Necessarily, but I really like that. Out of everyone that Michael and Luther could have chosen to go to this meeting. They picked Jimmy and Kaley. It makes for a really interesting dynamic, and it's also broadening and deepening our understanding of who these characters are, and who the show is or what the show is really about by getting these more complex relationships, they know each other on an individual basis. Now on can decide for themselves. How much they like this other person instead of them just being Oh, that person! Person that was mentioned by Michael or that lady who interviewed my ex wife and gave me a really hard time when I really didn't need it back then they are actually getting to know them, and I like how it's really broadening the web of this show. It feels enriching. I guess that's the word that I'm looking for and I feel like I'm getting a sort of payoff by seeing these characters introduced to each other and crossing paths at this time in the story. I know a lot of folks felt that with this part of the season we just had a bunch of more things of more plot, threads and everything pop up a lot of questions and stuff pop up and possibilities rise than want. Folks would expect for the penultimate episode of a series or a season at least so season one viewers has a reasonable since closure to it to that story arc, but I want you to think of it going in as being more like walking dead where you're going to perhaps the end of story arc, but you might also have some sort of cliffhanger involved in it. Something that you already. Already can tell looking ahead. Where the story is likely to go kind of like the cash on your computer going, you know if this the Matt this is what has been selected before. This is what happened, so this may also happen. It's not just a dead end where you're getting to that one page, and that's as far as you're ever going to go in that single session. So I really like the approach I know a lot of folks especially now with the binging type of culture where an folks really want to get that sense of closure within the first season, because you may have to wait a year or more. For your next season and I get why that can be really frustrating, but let me remind you. We waited like two years or something for the game of thrones final season. Now that may be a bad example, because a lot of people still had problems with that, but also that's an ending, not a beginning or simple continuation, and we knew for the longest time that that was in fact going to be the ending. And that makes it a little bit different from the viewers season two arrival granted. We aren't currently slated to get a season to which I have already previously lamented heavily thinks especially in the last episode, but we are. You know getting to see more in the graphic novels, so let's take a look at those and explore the world differently that way, and maybe if we hold out hope, it will get revived like the expanse or something. But I digress, my point is that. It's OK in my opinion that we don't get everything tied up this season. I grew up on CBS. DRAMAS IS I've discussed Jag with Hugo's before, and oftentimes we would have these really big cliffhangers at the ends of these procedural dramas. And then you would have to wait for months because your last episode would be in late April early to mid May, and then the new win wouldn't start until school started again in like September and it would feel interminable because when you're a kid and you're on summer break. You don't really have a sense of when things are going to end. You don't have any more structure, and so time flows really strangely for you. Time is such a nebulous thing when you're a kid, and because you can't conceptualize an into it, you feel like it takes forever just like when you are going to. A new destination and it always feels a lot longer to get there than it does to return. Even if the trip is exactly the same amount of time, it's just that now. You're familiar with the distance, and because you're familiar with it, and you know what to expect, it is more definable for you. And I! Get that the problem partially with cliffhangers. What I'm saying is I. Don't mind them, I don't mind some threads. Not Being fully woven in from one season to the next, I, think that's what makes it easier to pick them up the next season and Provide a sense of continuity in familiarity between seasons, one and two game of thrones also didn't always. We've all of the threads as it went along, and neither did stargate one now I love both of those shows, and I have problems with each of them in their own way for things that I felt weren't tied up to my satisfaction, but other folks are totally satisfied with it. So, as much as people are giving viewers a hard time about this one thing I, just want to adamantly say this doesn't bother me and I actually really enjoy it in my shows, even if I have to wait a little longer to really get that payoff, it's a lesson in delayed gratification y'all, and that's something that I think we all may become a lot more accustomed to in the COVID nineteen era. We're going to go on a quick break and when we come back, we are going to talk about the last names of the do bombs, and how this process of sorting out a peace treaty is going. Stay tipped. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close and here this out. 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I think it makes for a richer story and I just also love getting to see different characters through different characters is the more pairs of is we get to see them through the more interesting and multidimensional. The character really seems to be especially if they're not necessarily beloved by all, or they're closer to some characters than they are to others, and I like this friendship that seems to be forming between Keighley and Jimmy and how they have a similar sense of humor and are also very gritty. It's cute, not necessarily in a ship away, but also now that I say that allow maybe ship away. But I just generally like how compatible they are in their personalities, they have a lot in common with their personalities, even if they have chosen different outlets like government work and being in the media in order to. Go about doing what they think is the right thing to do. Jimmy does the right thing, no matter what, even though it meant, he might have compromises cover. He wasn't going to kill that guy that Bobbie told him to kill. Even though the guy was also in that motorcycle club that was apparently doing bad enough things to be infiltrated or to warrant him being assigned undercover there. So, you know they were federal resources and funds being spent to put him there. If nothing else. That is something that the government understands money I. For you, know getting people do what they want. And finding those means to ends, so they care enough about what these people were doing to at least a sign. Jimmy to it, so the guy probably did something pretty bad. Jimmy was still like hey. I'm not going to take a life outside of the law Jimmy's DVD alignment appears to be fairly straight forward. He's there to do the right thing. The moral thing and Kaley also feels that she's doing the right thing the. The moral thing in her own way remember that morality and legality are not necessarily the same things, and that's what we're seeing Jimmy kind of discover with Luther, even as Jimmy tries to adhere to making sure that he does still choose the right thing he lets Dan ago. He could have gone ahead and killed her. No one else would have held him accountable for it by any means, but Jimmy also understands that just because she's different doesn't necessarily mean that she's inherently evil. So jemmy finding him questioning. These types of things is finding himself questioning these things even as Kaley is wrestling with her own sense of morality and vulnerability in the wake of losing again to Nikos. Having da s shoot them, I almost said D. H. S. they're called DNS in the TV show. Just, because a lot of people consider certain acts that are more role to also be something that warrants being illegal, that doesn't necessarily mean that all immoral behavior or activities are illegal or that they should be and vice versa. A lot of terrible things that have been done over the years have been legal to do so. So just because something's legal doesn't mean that it's moral, and that's where we find Jimmy and Kaley agreeing even if they're kind of approaching it from different perspectives and different processes. I also WanNa talk about the concept of Danika meals last names in this episode, and also what that could really mean from an anthropological perspective as well as from a genetic perspective. We've talked about the genetics and epigenetics of this in previous episodes, but in anthropology a Lotta Times. We can't fully get a hold of a lot of genetic data. Especially, if it's something that would require as digging up, the grave of someone's loved one to obtain a DNA sample from their bones or other parts of their body. Or if someone has a specific, religious or cultural background or belief system that will not allow for them to give up any of the parts of their body, and still obtain their religious and cultural goals. So. There are a couple of different reasons that you might not have access to that. Perhaps something just happened to an entire population lay say the population of Roanoke, and you're not able to get any of their DNA so you can't trace it throughout a region and see what really happened to these individuals by using mighty conrail, DNA or something. There's not always a way to get a hold of that. So for whatever reason whether it be historical, cultural, or religious or just not physically having access to something whether you don't know where it is, or it's just gone and destroyed for all intents and purposes. So in those situations, anthropologists often use a type of data that we refer to as being population history. Anthropologists that use this though a lot of biologists use it, so you're looking at the historical population demographics in differences of a group you looking at their population structure, and you're looking also at the history. was there an influx of certain individuals who came into the area and different times you looking at human migration and one way that you can tell that is by knowing whether a society tends to be more matriarchal or stereotypically patriarchal, and in that way learn about nine associations, and who is the person who takes the names who lives with whom, after a wedding has occurred. Who is considered to be the new family and who gets to keep parts of the old family, and by that I mean customs like how the parents will always go and live with the oldest son in some cultures where daughter has to leave her parents behind, because they're no longer considered to be her family, because she has a new last name, things like that, there are so many different cultural practices around the world, so these are just a few of the examples, but my point is that last names have often been used historically to help track populations of people. To tell people are related to each other as well and just to help assign meaning to the world around us. And Danika and Mila both have the last name Doobov. Their sisters and we know that they at least have their mother in common. and. It seems that because of the association with Verte Lax and the Slavic folklore vampires they, we are supposed to be inferring that they are biologically related just because of the history of the Verte lack in folklore, and also the poem by Gender Pushkin on the Vertibrak. So the poem that he wrote was a slavic folklore vampires that were called Verte lacks. We discussed them in previous episodes. And they are indeed Slavic in nature. Danika meals last name above is Russian in origin, according to the research that I conducted this past week. and. They are indeed considered to be Slavic so verte lacks are perhaps. Not, only just a genetic trait, but also one that could be tracked. Reasonably or predicted reasonably by using individuals last names. This is something that we use in science and social science and I. think that even though Luther has really good intentions with Theresa and trying to hide the evidence of any age four seven gene. It also seems to be a little arrogant as though the just because the DNS and the government don't know about the NHL for seven gene right now that they're not going to just because luther is maybe the only person in the world along with. Theresa, who is able to figure this out? This seems like pretty basic. Types of correlations, and in this case if it was the parent even with as Little Data Theresa had at the time like four individuals. It seems that there is a definite and not all that difficult to find type of pattern going on here and I, think that any anthropologist who might be assigned to this were they to signing after apologised would be able to figure this out fairly quickly, even if they are not familiar with DNA, strategically or not super adept at DNA analysis, but at least familiar with it. That, they would be able to see this. So my point is that that information kind of POPs out at you since last names are largely also about shared jeans, and there are meant to help you understand. The Association of genes is what they are. When you boil it down then even if they don't know about the N. H. Four seven gene, it's going to be parent. Some point that siblings are being turned and it may also become apparent that siblings are more likely to be Verte LAX, or that Verte lax or more likely to be siblings or being the same family. Since the lack in Alexander. Pushkin's tales were likely to turn and then feel compelled to turn their other family members specifically. So, that may be something that could be used against them to that could be used to predict did prevalence or ratio or likelihood of whether a person if infected is more likely to be a blood or avert a lack. So, you could see if they were perhaps likely to turn and go. Okay Vampire at all. We're specifically go. Okay, not just a vampire, but a blood vs a Verte lack. Anthropology has been used in the past to assist many different atrocities by hazarding guesses on people's brain sizes in relation to sizes of their skull, it Cetera, and this is why this dugout to me as a very dubious implication for anthropology assisted atrocities in general and how it has been done in the past art imitates life, and sometimes vice versa, so I'm wondering with all of these parallels with modern day problems in viewers. If maybe something like that may pop up in the future of this serum he's. So, one of the other thoughts that I had about that is in regards to snakes, snakes, and any other type of creature that may be venomous like spiders of some species, etc, are sometimes milk in order to make anti vines to their. And that got me to thinking that. Perhaps they're able to tell the difference between bloods invert elax specifically, as it comes to the Vampires Within v Wars whether that is by predicting it with their last names or by testing their DNA that they may be. Inclined to weaponize some of this or politicize some of this Verte lack venom? We're going to go on a quick break and when we come back I'm going to talk about this concept. Stay tuned! Watching. TV has changed over time. Streaming has become the new norm. That's why golden state media concepts television podcast dives headfirst to the world of cord. Cutting wants to be on loop of what's hot and Netflix, or if it's not a preference, what about original shows an Hulu we've got you covered. Join us as we fill the blank and talk about movies to stream, and what show you should be binging. This is a golden state media concepts television podcast. Take. This Just. Thing about. The concepts of population history and population structure to answer questions about the world around us in reference to history or even predicting future events or the prevalence of as certain disease, or the likelihood of it based off of shared genetics, being indicated or implied by certain regional last names, so for example in the last segment. I mentioned that the Verte laxer Slavic for Laura Vampires, and that me La in Danika who were both verte lacks in this show also have the Slavic last name of Doobov. So, in this way, we might be able to track the vampires or predict who might be avert lag, and since we are portraying, the DNS is being super evil, already I thought of how perhaps they might intentionally than cultivate verte lacks in order to milk them or harvest them either to make an anti venom against this venom that is making you addicted to being fed on by the vampires being addicted to the venom itself. The injections of it that you receive while feeding. It acts like heroin as we've discussed in the past, and whether they would make like an anti venom into that to prevent people from being. Subjected to that addiction to begin with or whether they would use it to try to make people more docile like their constituents. Who's to say what happens if you expose a blood to it I'm not quite sure yet. I? Guess, we will see or we won't. I wasn't paying as much attention to the scenes with. Michael as I perhaps should have been in order to be able to answer that question the way I can I say the question just popped into my head. I don't know if she bit him the way that she did and fed on the first boyfriend right after she turned. I digress. I think though that. We're seeing something really dark building here. and. It's extra interesting, because the characters are letting us know that a lot of them aren't sure if there is a clear villain or hero or a good or evil side just based solely off of. Someone's genetic makeup at the genetics in their expression at this time. So as we see this happening I can totally see DNS. Just going crazy with us. We already see that need. Clothes has called the head of the committee that they were sitting with and let him know. Hey, find a less obvious scapegoat than me when this all requires that you have one. And he's essentially asking for favor, but the guy's not likely to give it to him, and also he knows that, so it's part warning requests on both sides more or less. And in this case, Nikolaos goes off, and we see that he's already doing some full resident evil extinction stuff. He has some of that material that has the blood in it, or that has the material the preowneds that are going to turn him, but it looks like he has some kind of super serum. That is a lot closer to what goes on in resident evil extinction with the Super Zombie type of deal Nikos believes. Believes this is the next step in human evolution, and he is in someone's basement. Really looks legitimately somebody's pavement. Getting injected with this mysterious fluid that we know is going to do a bad thing. He's getting an IV getting like. Some of the blood injected there, and even the doctor is telling him hey I know I'm a guy in a basement doing procedures even I have to say this is maybe really an advisable. Benico is going to do it anyway, so he's already wanting to be even stronger and have more power right now, and he already feels back against a wall. He doesn't want to be the scapegoat for this if he's doing what he has to survive and he's GonNa. Take that material, but he also seems super, gleeful and excited about it. So now I can definitely see them taking this to a militaristic or politicized level. Of this Vertibrak Venom. I also thought that maybe they might use it to create a more docile population, so that made me think of the use of packs and serenity, in which they expose everyone to that in the air, and most people just got so lazy that they lay down and died. But the other people reacted very violently, had the adverse reaction and became super duper violent, instead of more docile, extremely violent. And almost inhuman or perhaps extra human in their aggression. And in that situation I could see that happening with DNS, plotline colonel like that where they may be try to introduce Vertibrak venom into different products to get people to use it more. That might be just more capitalism in general, but you know if someone could commercialize that If v wars had a baby with the boys. I could totally see them injecting. Venom into different products to get people more addicted to it just to. Do like this. Hold some kind of political. Sway over folks or some sort of sway in general. It's like previous theorized CARF's or interactions with foreign dignitaries. These are things that this vertibrak venom could be used for in these different stories particularly if this was crossed over with the boys. I liked the show on its own, but y'all know. I also really love the boys and. A lot of crossover potential here. But. There's also a lot of other problems like we don't have superhero specifically in viewers, so that would be kind of jarring for them. It's less upsetting theoretically. MVP Wars for there to be vampires. If it's set in the boys universe, because at least there's already vampires so people. Would probably I think they were superheroes anyway and not be all that upset about it. Can superheroes dispose of the Vampires I. Don't know, but now I'm just getting into fan. Fiction territory got away from me there for a second, but I like to think about these different scenarios and I can totally see them using fertilizer venom for this. I also think that there's a really gross and ethically contemptible situation in which this government with DNS and close and everyone might milk. The verte lacks for their venom like they do. Some of those vampiric collections of human blood sacks, where they keep people alive, and just keep harvesting their blood from them in order to eat food supply almost like how we farm cattle nowadays, and I could see them doing that, although the Vertibrak Venom in this case would not be a form of sustenance. The cows or like the human blood are some vampire movies, but rather as maybe being drug I could see people trying to adjust that the way they have cocaine and snaps. You have lied to Kane Novacaine. Agents, maybe they could use it medically, but maybe much more likely they would use it as drugs or ways to get money so stripping it down or processing it further so that it acts like maybe a super heroine, but without being likely to kill a person or without getting you addicted to the feeding itself. If you could just take it on your own. Maybe that can make people less likely to be fed upon by vampires or maybe just still work strawberry style like we discussed previous administrations. About how vampires might just start dealing their own fertilizer venom, and getting people addicted sooner than they could come to them or have them be forced to come to them in order to get that hit. It is really grim. In these considerations on all sides whether it's the virtual acts doing this to humans or the humans, farming verte lacks in order to tank their venom for these different reasons. I can also see Verte lack venom as having a lot of potential depth to it I. Don't know how far they would want to take the venom thing, but if it's like snake, venom or other types of non human animal venom, in which it's more potent when it's released easier, or it's released easier in juvenile's, so you know what I mean like when little snakes on other types of animals that. That are venomous are very small. They're more likely to release all their venom it once they haven't learned how to control it and what the dosage is really and so I wonder about Vertibrak Venom. We haven't seen any child vampires yet. We don't know if maybe Dana's venom get stronger as she ages like something might in the originals, or whether it gets worse as she ages like in the twilight roles. We'll see what children. are like this. Maybe who knows are vampires sterile. We don't know yet. Maybe that's something we will see in the next episode or the next season. I am hoping to at least. Find out a little bit more about what happens. When children are turned into vampires because we do get a look at that in this episode, even if we don't get to see vampire children, being made the good old fashioned way. I just have a letter questions here but I. do also think that given the. Amount of correlations that are present for the show and the current modern day American climate socio politically culturally biologically everything that's going on right now has a lot of strong allegories in viewers, and so I could see as folks are more and more concerned with fascism. Perhaps seeing something like the Verte lacks like maybe everything happening simultaneously people are complex, and not everyone's going to react to these situations. Situations exactly the same sin. Maybe you would have. Verte lacks selling their own venom in order to get people hooked. Initially, maybe you would simultaneously seeing that and the government trying to militarize it or politicize it or even perform that double ethical violation of possibly breeding verte lacks however that works whether that is young ones being created with you know insemination genetics, or whether that is just turning. Children. Turning New People in order to process and really collect more of that Vertibrak Venom. It's kind of eugenics breeding program. At that time. It is based on their genes even if it's epigenetics and it's very grim. Those are some potential places i. see the show going in the future or at least plot points that I. Think would be really interesting for me to see. However, it may just end up being some good ideas for fan fiction, so if you write fan fiction and you're interested in taking that somewhere I would be interested in reading it because my mind went wild thinking about that this week as I went out in. The area that up and deep in the woods, and the mountains, and looked for animals to help out before, and after the rains this week we had a Lotta Tiles Sim, you know snakes, and also turtles and everything crossing the road to go and I to take advantage of that moisture to do you know their turtle business? It's their business or also to just warm themselves up on the pavement. After the rainstorm had cooled them off because they need that environmental heat. I went out to drive around and check on them, and we found some turtles that were doing really well. We found some snakes. We're doing well and also some that We were not able to save this week, so I also just wanted to mention the snakes and turtles, not that I'm saying are venomous talking about the snakes, but my point is that I clearly had reptiles amphibians strongly on my mind this week, and how different types of animal venom have been politicized and weaponized over the years and how we also use it in medicine and thinking about that so heavily this week as we've had a ton of storms. Really also made me think about how bad applied to V wars. So if you're interested in these plot, points hit me up on facebook. Twitter Instagram, because I would love to be able to read it when you go to write it. I think the human imagination is a wonderful thing and no matter where viewers takes this in the future. I am excited to watch it. Now that really only gets us all the way about halfway, so we're through season. One episode nine, but we will finish than episode in our next Monday podcast for now enjoy those considerations that may be future plot points, or may just be fan, fiction plot bunnies. Either way, thank you for listening to the GMC. Sci Fi podcast. Brought to you by the GSM see SCI FI network. I'd like to ask that you please subscribe to the show and Writing Nice Review always really helps us also. If you could please follow us on facebook, twitter and Instagram I'd appreciate it. Thank you kindly and have a good night. Listening to the Golden State media concept's sci-fi podcast part of the golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot Jesus MC podcast dot com download our podcast on itunes. Stitcher soundcloud Google play just type in Jesus Mc to find all the shows from the golden state media concepts podcast network from movies to music throw sports to entertainment and even Weird News. 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"Guys it actually happened. Nikola nico kovacs has officially signed on with g two sports. That means that means kenny. S a nico on the same team and nico doesn't even have to sell. Yeah you heard it here. First return of the head shop machine. Now let's just calm down a second ask some serious questions like is this the best move for nico will g to win the next major and seriousness. What's next for faze clan. Okay guys you know. The drill now is the part of the video. Where i remind you that if you haven't already and it would be a grievous. Subscribe to the score east sports youtube channel. And hey if you do have a news tip for the. Don't add me team. You can reach them. A tips at the score dot com. You never know might actually become a video anyways in a year filled with honestly pretty much just negative go news. gte's sports in nico gave us something to get excited about this week. And they did it with one of the best announcement videos i've ever seen. I found myself in dreams to remake. You mistreat movies. I mean at this point. Forget about the colossus. Never mind the juggernaut because it looks like g to sports is building a tight rated there now. I think broadly speaking the move has the potential to do two things number one unlock nico and get into that number one in the world major winning spot that we all know he has the talent to be number two take g to sports from with flashes of brilliance to one where excellence is the standard and not just the flavor of the month i mean. Don't forget guys that beg was a top three team in the world at various times this year and the number one team in the world at one point in june now. We are in october and they are out of the top ten for the first time in over nine months. Gte sports does need something and it looks like they've decided that nico is going to be that something and what he brings to. The team is pretty obvious. I mean the chinese import can save in drop-offs for kenny. S is cousins on the team. Which is a plus and apparently his contract last until he sucks. Shit it's just another east. Sports will never mind now. Let's get serious for a second here. Because i do have some legitimate questions about this. Move first and foremost will nico be for sports. Because that was speculated as a weakness in his play when he started doing that for face clan for the answer to that. I turned to malik. Gt's sports go. Coach made some time for me for this interview. There doubts because we have like a professional troll of twitter are in the name of nexta. He loves to mess around on twitter. Lots nico will not game here. Thanks is i have a good relationship with next so about how we work together and as i said before he would feel a little capsule not most likely be able to save position next map. So it's like just having another voice Fresh ideas but he would just be a player that talks more than others but We stopped by not and we don't talk to ali muhsin union leader. I think he's very happy to to go back to a more play a role we make sure that we use him as best as again. That's what to do. I also ask malik. How does nikos specifically solve g to sports problems and help them get back to that number one spot. They were in june dabs off. Mitterrand ccording to help nexta in terms of like expediencies about Decides is rose like on the big rotations Decision making to move the team around to retake very is and spitting walk teeth not out of robotic direction that we'd planned and i really think that's having nico will help us to have more consistency since he is like bringing medical negation better experiences. Better weeds overall. I also asked him in all honesty. What is the team expectation here. Now that nico's on born is it win a major or die trying. I think it's very easy to to answer Since i arrived to call is just to get on top I don't know if it's winning. One specific title. Or if it's yeah. Winning major basically is one one thing we can say with that. Let's not let's not lie here just getting better moving for wolves. Every time we have an ultra cheap Within the same team making the team better every day we have seen that we can compete on a reliable with lineup riyadh's already H- having nico there. We just like put us in even more strong position now from the original announcement. It seemed like g to was going for on. A stroll is style six man roster but malik told me that's actually not the case he says we can expect a decision on a final five man roster by the end of the year. This is not a six man roster. Stay sixteen winter break. I really love all the players to five of them before he could joint we would make spot to nico. I think it's a great thing to do and before out with that's what we do is testing on the field who will try out different combination because we really would like to see the best synergy on the fields. What is working best for our system. Twelve the best results possible. Now look in case any of you guys forgotten. Nicole really is a generational talent when it comes to counter strike he's an amer- of nearly unparalleled skill and when he first burst into the public consciousness back in two thousand fifteen ish on most sports he produced some highlights that are so iconic. We've still use them in some cisco videos today from the very very get shocks justify one more of the money isn't going to touch him and what on earth has just happened. Degal is on going to walk into as well nico is on fire. And after that he signed on with the faze clan super team playing alongside legends like guardian wachtmeister kerrigan and rain. You help them get to a major grand final speed. Run i m york and a half a dozen other major tournaments but once shine wore off the faze clan super team once carrigan left in that fifth spot became a little less stable wants nico started taking the dedicated role. Things did trend downward for him. In two thousand nineteen he had his lowest rating ratings since two thousand sixteen and he was left out of the top ten players in the world. Now mind you. He was number eleven. But if you're nico v nico that's not really good enough. That's not good enough. And so here we are looking at a faze clan whose time seems to have passed at least when it comes to nico and it's not like he isn't a great addition to that roster or it's not a great organization for him to be a part of. It's just that you can't help but feel that the partnership between faze clan and nico has run its course. It's been well over three years since he signed with faze clan and nico hasn't won a major yet and again if you're that caliber of player that's just not good enough. I mean let's just be honest to your guys pays. Kleenex should have won the boston major. They didn't and i'm not going to make this video about what basically clan should or shouldn't have done but the point is if niko couldn't get it done in three and a half years with phase. Was he realistically ever going to. I think it was pretty clearly time for a change. And hey i don't know if gt is the answer for nico or nico is the answer for g too. But i can't wait to find out which brings us to the other side of this whole equation which is faze clan a team who honestly still have plenty of firepower even without nico especially with the recent signing of carvey. They will have to figure out who's taking jail rains. But they're still a deadly squad of four absolute killers unfortunately for them though nico wasn't the only loss to faze clan this week same day. He announced his transfer to juju sports. Their coach yankel which announced that he was leaving the team and taking a break from coaching till twenty twenty one so in one single day faze clan lost two crucial layers of leadership there and their coach and that to me is the more worrying sign faze clan especially since yanko said in his parting statement quote for a while now the team has been struggling with some reoccurring issues in and out of the game. Which i've done my best to try and amend but unfortunately without much success and quote which suggests that the problems in faze clan might not be an easy fix but hey where there's a wallet there's a way and basically have plenty of cash and plenty of to fill those rules with top tier talent. G2's next game will be a monday against as part of the last fall series. And it'll be the first time that we see nico g. two colors who knows. Maybe he'll pop off. Maybe you'll have a bad game doesn't really matter what matters is that represents a second chance for one of cs goes true great players a second chance at fulfilling that destiny and hopefully winning that major and can you imagine if he did it with kenny. S now that is a story of video. I'd like to see.

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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 237: V Wars Season 1 Episode 9 Part 2: Two Men in a Room

GSMC SciFi Podcast

1:10:45 hr | 8 months ago

GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 237: V Wars Season 1 Episode 9 Part 2: Two Men in a Room

"Golden state media concepts, side Fi podcast. Together, we dive into the world Scifi science fiction from episodes, of Star, Trek Star Watch the. Dead resident evil all the. Science fiction movie from the Bachelor Marvel or DC golden state media cuts sets CY, five cats. You'll never put get side stations the same way again. Time to. See. Size podcast thrive to you by the GSM, see podcast network. I'm your host Alex. Last week you guys. We touched down on viewers season one episode nine. But mainly, we talked about population history and structure and potential weaponization of vampire abilities as it relates to this specific show. So this week we're also going to be talking about episode nine of season one again. But instead of what we already touched on, we're going to start talking about where we find these characters. In this penultimate episode. This portion of the show is where we start getting really sociopolitical. We've already introduced senators ru, and now we are going to be leaning more political than just scientific as the first portion of the show was. So today, we are going to break this down and talk about the power dynamics between the different groups and the concept of how to people in a room together can get more done than having hundreds or even a full committee. And, that's where we're going to start because that's the whole point where at least the primary one of this episode. Senators you rue. As we mentioned in the previous episode on v Works has trying to get a hold of Michael Fain, but Michael is not interested in speaking with a politician and Luther has outright told her that he was like look Michael, the not like politicians. Before he turned into a vampire, he is definitely not going to be interested in speaking with you right now. So. Let me talk to him. And she's not super keen on this at all but. Eva has gone behind Michael's back and rallied blood nation, and a lot of the vampires are beginning to riot. I. Don't know exactly how far across the US this is supposed to have spread. At this point. We do kind of see that it's highly infectious at least as far as we can tell from this time line. Although the time line is a bit nebulous at times, I'm also not exactly sure how big this area of Seneca is supposed to be. But we see that Michael and the others on their way to senators ruse place which I believe was an Pennsylvania or. Or something. was actually were still problematic like they had a showdown about vampires and stuff in the diner on the way. and. There's been a lot of problems. So it's spreading at least regionally, but I don't know food's gone further than like the eastern seaboard or even just the eastern area of the United. States. But regardless here we are, and we are seeing that this spreads rather rapidly. We've seen Mike and Danika go out and try to purposely spread the infection to the president's daughter knowing that she would be susceptible to it. So, if it wasn't already in the DC area, it is there now. And we also know that the little girl senators, Roux's daughter. All Molly. A teacher at her school who had also become infected. So she probably goes to one of those rich kids schools and like the Maryland, DC. Area. And she's not a had a great time so far. She doesn't seem super upset by it, but we do know from these circumstances of these different characters traveling and being in different schools and stuff that it hasn't least spread that far. Even if we don't know how big SENECAS postivie since most of the story at least from our characters perspective has been taking place there now they are, you know patient zero and the other person who found and identified the virus. So it makes sense that we're following it from their perspective. And maybe hasn't spread throughout the entire us yet. But I think that as we've seen with covid nineteen that these types of illnesses or. Infectious Diseases will call them that are spread via respiratory droplets can be spread really quickly. Especially given the era we live in that allows for such ease of. Transportation across not just our country or our continent, but the entire globe. We do know that in the case of this show, it has at least made national news especially with Reva leaks. So Kaley Vo has been out there blooding everyone know what she believes. They have the right to know that there are vampires out there and that there's more going on than the government, his been telling everyone. We also know that it's big enough that Dina's has. has sent out federal agents to lock people up in these internment camps as well, which luther and senators ru are now blowing wide open. So even if the virus itself for the prion disease is all not spread entirely throughout the US or across the globe. It's at least spread far enough in knowledge in the media in awareness that they need to do something about it now. And that's where we find ourselves here and with Eva having been rallying all of blood nation against Michael's wishes and behind his back, they've begun to riot, and now that everyone has the truth out senators. Giroux also is becoming increasingly desperate to get a truce with them. She seems to genuinely want one to, yes. It will be wonderful for her political career to be able to achieve such a huge objective that would be incredibly meaningful and save lives and also. Appear to be empathetic or sympathetic to the issues facing, but she also, genuinely. To Care, she seems to take more of an approach like Luther does. Even though she's a politician in really thinking that these people can be helped. She is a politician who is dedicated to finding this middle ground at the very least, and she knows that it's not okay for people to be kept in these cages regardless of the reasoning or whatever is happening in the world around them. So I like Senator Giroux, she seems to still be genuinely kind and empathetic and sympathetic beyond just political posturing. I like that about her, maybe we'll see later on that. This is not all that it appears to be, but I for one like her I'd vote for senators ru depending on her other politics, but based on the politics of seen from her be down. She seems like a, you know she really cares about the people and we could extend what she is saying and doing about the vampire issue to perhaps other issues that we see in the world around us today. So given that if that follows through, then I'd vote for her but I need to learn more about her platform. I. And her voting record. So that's something else. That's really important as we go into voting season, it's not enough to just listen to what they say they're going to do. It's also important to Google their voting records and talk about what they've actually done. So, they can say that they have proposed a bill or have written them. But did they vote against their own bill? Did they put what's called a poison pill amendment in there as well to make sure that it wouldn't pass, but they would still get the credit for creating it. It's important and look at those things and see if your representatives really walk the walk and talk the talk like senators. Rude, genuinely seems to. And you can do that by looking at different websites can good about pedia and check that out or my personal favorite is accountable APP which I have on my phone. So with accountable APP, you can put in your specific area. So you have your specific representatives for the House and the Senate. And you can see what they're voting and it will explain to you why people might vote for that and why people might oppose it and you can come to your own conclusions and can also message your representatives from within the APP. It's super cool. I'm not getting paid to say this, but I just really big fan of socio political engagement and also of this particular civics APP. So check it out. If you'RE INTERESTED IN CANNIBAL DOT COM regardless of which side of the line you're on everyone is entitled to their informed opinion and I think that in my personal experience, you can get a lot of information from countable. That C. O. U. N. T., A. B. L. E.. It will tell you how your representatives have voted on things, and you can message them about how and why you would like them to vote for certain things. Remember they're not your leaders, Maher. Your representatives, they're supposed to be representing you. So your voice matters and they should be hearing you out. There are a host of other features on that out, but those are pretty much the most important ones in my personal experience, and I will let you go download the countable APP, which is very Eliseu as when I downloaded it. If you are interested in that, I always encourage informed opinions. But we're seeing that with Sasha Giroux, we're also seeing some other types of politics like with the leader of the committee. It looks similar to like the Senate Judiciary Committee, as we discussed in our previous episode. and which the guy who is the majority leader is saying that he doesn't think that anything weird is going on, but it's very clear that he is in cahoots with Catholics new close. This man is the political arm of the shenanigans that Nikos is performing. On the scientific side of it. Both sides are still playing political games though. Senator Giraud as good as she seems to be is still a politician at heart, and while Nikolaos, and these other Senate members are playing these nefarious games and making sure that they have access to the DA jess or sorry the DNS in this world to lock people up and just sweep them off the streets into unmarked vehicles much like has been happening in Portland in the US recently. We also see senators ru on the other side being clandestine about her movements. She can't get an audience with Michael Cain, and that upsets her but luther tells her. Hey, I could go ahead and talked to him for you. and. She's like, no, that's not happening. You do not have the authority to do that. You don't have the training to do that. You're not a politician or a negotiator. You're scientists and losers like, yeah. But that's my brother and he doesn't trust politicians, but he might trust me and I think I'm our best bet to get an audience with him like I'll talk to you, and I will go through jumping all the hoops for you and making sure that I'm running the different possibilities for this negotiation by you, but you know. Know at the end of the day I. think that the only person he's likely to talk to you about this is going to be me, and this is the best that you're going to get. So she decides to let him, but she also is making sure that in this situation, if things blow up in their faces, she's not going to get any of the heat for it. There's not GonNa be any splash back on her? No. One's going to know that she had anything to do with it in any capacity at all. It honestly probably is her best bet though and I appreciate that she gets to be kind of a grayish character. She seems to have a good heart, but she's also a politician. Often, we see this reflected the other way around and I really enjoy seeing a woman in this gray area. It's fun. It's nuanced and I think that the lady who plays senators rude. Doesn't really great job and bringing this type of character to life. We're going to go on a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to pick up on how this actually works out when they meet in the cabin. Stay tuned. To find out what movies to go see. Then check out the GMC movie podcast. It's your ticket to the latest movies whether it's a new blockbuster event, romantic comedy or action flick. This show has got it all covered. They talk some what to go see. Now, don't bother what's hot on Netflix and everything in between that's GSM see podcast dot com back, slash movie dash podcast. When it's all about the movies, it has to be this new show. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GMC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. Tax. Ext.. Combatants look for the race. We were talking about the different sides we have. We have close as a scientist with his own senator, and then we also have luther with his senator. So we have some scientists politician alliances, and then we also have a media and Vampire alliance with Lee Vo and Michael Fain. It really seems the only person out of the blood nation who likes Kaley is Mike. Ava does not care for her especially because Cain Lee cares more about information and knowledge than being an pathetic about the guy who went with Eva to get the video footage having been slain by Diaz. You would think that maybe Kaley might be more empathetic about that. Given that you're again was recently killed by the same people, but no Keighley is on a mission and she is right back to being. Kaley, she's truly only divulged. For wanting to take down DNS and need close to Michael, Danika might have also been there at the time, but she's just like we want to take down the same people kill the man I loved, and that's it. That's as far as. It sees fit to explain herself and you know what I'm here for it. Katie is not a super emotionally. Available Person. I. Guess, we could say it's not even that she's not emotionally available. It's just she's private about that. She's private about weird personal things. Super Caley, she very much thinks that vampires being out there. Is that thing that people need to know especially because it's caused by something that can be spread via your respiratory system and folks don't have a way of knowing whether or not. They're even at risk for it. I didn't even know my own blood type until two weeks ago when I gave blood at a local blood mobile, it was the first time that I have been of the correct wait to be allowed to give blood before I did not weigh enough because I'm so short and so they would not allow it. But this time I was actually able to and when I sign up to give blood, they were like, what's your blood type? I'm like I have no idea. So now I know that I'm blood type O. positive. So is my Abo blood group and positive is my are H. Factor. So I didn't know that and I am thirty one. Had No idea of until a little bit ago because I had no reason to know and very similarly no-one in this show really has a reason to know whether or not. They have that NIH for seven gene. It's kind of similar to how people get tested for the Brca Gene for breast cancer or people get tested for genes associated with Huntington's disease and other diseases of that nature. But unless you personally know definitively that someone in your family has died from that or is suffered a serious illness that's related to those genes. Then you probably haven't been tested for it. It's sort of a need to know basis, and if you don't feel that you need to know, then why would you pay for it and seek that out? Also even if you are aware of something like that happening in your family, you might not have the money to do it. Let's face it. We have a socio economic problem in the United States, and that is very much putting it lightly, and I'm specifically just talking about when it comes to health care. So we have that problem across the board in many different realms, but it's becoming increasingly apparent in this era of covid nineteen that we have a huge healthcare disparity. There are issues of racism that are rising to the top and becoming super apparent for folks who were perhaps unaware of it before, and we also have gye norma's socio economic issues plaguing that same system. So, some folks may even have insurance but their deductible. So so high, then they still can't afford that test or perhaps their insurance doesn't cover the test or they may not be able to afford insurance at all. I also know some folks who because of Covid nineteen have been stuck overseas for months, they were on vacation or home visiting family and such, and were not able to return because of cove in nineteen concerns, and all of the airlines and the different countries and states, and cities making all these new rules that are not necessarily globally applied. So some people could get back to their home countries and others couldn't. And in those cases, how long does your travel insurance last or even if you're just in another state and you're required to quarantine for two weeks before you come back and things like that, or when you come back certain types of insurance only work with in your state or within a specific healthcare system, I have learned a lot about insurance recently, and most of it is just really upsetting. Also. We should include the fact that my knowledge in that realm is nowhere near. Even approaching, comprehensive. That's not my personal realm of expertise. But I like to learn a lot of new things and I've been trying to learn more about that recently, and again eighths just mostly of setting all around the board, how these different insurances work and how people get trapped with certain insurances that are available to them, versus those that aren't for a plethora of reasons, and we don't really get that far into it in v Wars because Luther is again some form of doctor and he is able to do these genetic tests and he knows enough about epidemiology. In. Order to go. Hey, I think we should be quarantined for longer. And when does get sick Luther sins him over to his friend, who is a dentist. Now, that was you know definitely a ruse just to get out of there and saying that he had a fever and stuff because of a messed up truth. But at the end of the day, Luther really could've just gone over to his bro and been like, Hey, can you help me out with this? Lots of my friends who have money and they live and Nice neighborhoods end up just reaching out to the local neighbor who is a doctor and whose kids are also friends with theirs if their kid falls over and just need some stitches or needs their arms set and it's kind of a form of classism in a way and socio economic status that we don't think about. It's not a big deal for Dez. To get sick in any capacity because luther is able to handle that or he knows someone whom is capable of handling it. Like Luther didn't even need to arrange for another transport to go and check on the Arctic research station to begin with. He just called his buddy Mike who just happens to own his own helicopter and have all the licenses and everything he needs to do this. You know on a moment's notice. It's that classism in networking and how because Luther is privileged and that he is rich and he also has a form of I don't WanNa quite say intellectual. Privilege but luther is in a class of people who tend to have more money because going to school to do these things, they're doing to get your doctor instead of often cost a lot of money. So he is going with all these people. He knows these people who also have money and have access to these things via this network, and so for him, it's not that big of a deal, but we're seeing people around us in the United States. Today dying from doing things like trying to ration their insulin. And I would imagine that a lot of that would be going on in the wars as well. I know a lot of people right now are also afraid to go in and go to the doctor for strep throat and things like that. Even though you need antibiotics in order to get rid of that infection because it's bacterial in nature, not viral specifically because they're afraid of contracting Cova. So if this Prion Disease And v Wars is also transmitted via respiratory droplets, eighth stands to reason that folks would also be concerned about getting this preowned disease by going to the doctor or by seeing their neighbors. But since this makes people stronger as a vampire, instead of weaker like covid nineteen does you also probably wouldn't want to wear a mask so that people couldn't tell that you are in fact a human and not a blood just by looking at you. They're a ton of socio-cultural implications in this show and I think a lot of them are unspoken, not necessarily unseen in the show, but unspoken. Similar to how stargate does that with telling stories using the beats within the silences. So, telling US things based on how much certain characters do things with other characters, but not this one character where telling it with music or these different gaps or changes in behavior. Wars is kind of like that for me too. So we don't necessarily see. It explicitly told her ex positionally told, but it is still there. We also really see that senators. Giroux understands how a lot of political. Agreements truly. Happen. You see this TV shows like pulled arc, which I know is not cy five I. Watch. A myriad of different shows pulled dark is a period piece though it is historical fiction. So it's still speculative fiction in that overall realm although historical fiction for me is more reaching in speculative fiction than the tights that I'm more comfortable with like sci fi and fantasy and horror things like that. But you get where I'm coming from. There's a certain point in the show where two characters are trying to make political arrangements via parliament with all of these members of parliament, and even though the manner politicians, they're not able to get it done. But two of the women who were their wives trick the politicians who hate each other into being in the same place at the same time without the husband's even knowing about it or being there and And the wives make them sit down to tea and use culture kind of against them, and also just get everything ironed out while they're sitting there because it's just a couple of people in a room, just the four of them in a room. Only two of them are politicians and they get far more done than they could get the entirety of parliament to convince them to agree on and everything comes down to where these two gentleman stand. No one else could convince them everyone who's tried. But because of the nature of the interaction and the Cultural Mores, concerning how people act in Polite Society and interact in mixed company. Day are obligated to follow the certain customs until these women kind of bringing it around. Convince them Oh. Hey. Actually we can agree on this with out either of. US. Really seeming like we're backing down politically and also naught seeming like either. One of us is weak because we're both finding a compromise in which we both get something out of this. So that happens in captain. America's civil war to to Challah tells black widow, the same thing that just getting a couple of. Of People in a room can accomplish more than having a hundred in the same room, and he knows that because he is also a political leader, he's a leader of his people. He's not like black widow, who is you know someone who's a spy who just goes out there and does the things that are required of her and kills me bill and everything, and then just walks away. She goes in when those things can't be accomplished whereas to Challah has this greater. Problem, really and this greater challenge of trying to convince people to agree or get people to understand why a certain thing needs to happen. Black widow can just come in and stabs everybody in the neck and call it a day, and it's like, okay, you're not left to disagree with me or who were working for. So you're no longer problem. It's a lot harder to get people. People to agree, and we see Senators Rui, understanding that with Luther and Mike. We see that and Captain America's civil war, and we also see that in the TV show poll dark, it's all about bureaucracy and also about Hubris it's valid the arrogance and pride of mankind in general. But Zero Trust Luther to do this, and she's just like you better stay in contact with me. We're going to go on a quick break, and when we come back, we're GONNA talk about how it actually works out for them stated. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts, listen close and here this out. See. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searched. The golden state media concepts. PODCAST network is here nothing less than our podcast lists with endless hours of podcast Harvard's. From. News Sports, music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football, and so much more. Stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts. PODCAST network guaranteed to build that podcast is. Whatever it may be, visit us at www dot gs, MC podcast, DOT com. Follow us on facebook and twitter download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. Kid. Just. Support. The break lean were talking about socio politics and the healthcare system in the United States booth in real life, and as it relates to bureaucracy and politics in the wars. Now, we're going to talk about how weren't sausage ru appoints luther to have this conversation. With Michael, we try to get peace between the two groups humans and blood nation and how that works out. So. They both show up to the cabin at their meeting at and it's some type of cabin with historical significance. This is not the first cabinet they met at which you know. Kinda? Try to have both of them killed. Mostly Michael but I have a feeling that at a certain point, Nikolaos would have just killed luther anyway as well. I mean, technically, Nikos also tried to have luther killed later on, but he really only needed him to get to. Michael? primarily. Luther sure was helpful. But ultimately, wasn't it Theresa who discovered the H. Four seven gene and not leave there? Anyway. Yeah. That's right. So anyone else who is. An expert in that field would have been able to find that as well. I. Think I've discussed my opinion on that in the past. But ultimately, if even like my personal opinion, aside, the fact of the matter is that Theresa, found the gene and not, Luther. So he was expendable, even before close and it up sending someone after him. Of course, they're not GONNA go back to that location. So they are at some location, some other cabin that has been arranged by senators ru. It is someplace that has been the site of other treaties and such in the past, and they've each taken one person with them as we discussed in our previous episode. Michael. Has decided to take Kaley with him because she is more functional as a hostage than either Asia or Danika. Because Avon, Danika are both vampires. There are a blood and avert lack specifically. Whereas Kayleigh, still a human. So humans might care more about kingly, then they would about the bloods. However then doesn't really seem to bother Kaley. She seems more smug about it than anything which I think is whole Larry. I laugh every time I think about that, but she's just so glad to have been picked to go on this adventure. She's not afraid of Michael, Fain, really I mean she's already been fed upon by Eva and that other guy and yet, she still just stand there facing them like she's not afraid at all. She's literally already been tortured by them and she's not phased in least not externally. We already know Kayleigh keeps everything on the inside for the most part does feel she just feels quietly in the external manner. So Keighley's jazz and she goes with Michael and Luther shows up with Jimmy and I really like Jimmy as a character Jimmy is also nuanced and you see him fighting through you know his orders and what he has to do to fit in with his undercover op verses. What is actually good and right how he leads Danna go because at the end of the day to him, she is still a person and not just what has happened to her. She is being oppressed as well by a group of people who don't understand her. And as Jimmy is a native American character he is. Aware of that to a very strong degree, and he tells them that in this episode two in which he says treaties don't mean Shit. And Jimmy knows what he's talking about. He's talking about from his own personal cultural experience and I like that Jimmy has something to say about that. He mostly came as luther bodyguard. But Jimmy has strong convictions and he's also a good man. And he's not afraid to speak mind, and so he is very much who he is completely, and that's one of the things that I like about v Wars period as that. Each of these characters especially, the four who show up to do the treaty negotiations are unapologetically themselves. Kaley is unabashed an unafraid. She is stared down need clothes while he was threatening her and still gone and done. What she felt was right. The strength of their convictions is one thing that really unites all these characters that's in their VIN diagrams. So Kaley as strong in her convictions, and then they killed the man she loved and she just became stronger in it. They screwed up there. They gave her nothing left. Left to lose, it would have been a lot smarter to just kill her directly, but unfortunately for them, that's not what they chose. So now Kaley has doubled down on her convictions and has coupled that with her own rage and need for vengeance. We also have luther over here is never given up the strength of his convictions. This entire time he is still saying, Hey, note, this is my brother. He's just sick. And Michael totally disagrees with him about being sick and Luther does have a bit of a white savior complex in this way to where he's not listening to Michael Luther isn't quite. Totally understanding what we're Michael's coming from movers like you know, I'm an epidemiologist and this is just something that happened to you because of some gene that you had that got turned on by a long dormant, preowned disease, the got reactivated due to global warming. So for him, this is very cut and dry, but for Michael. Michael's going. Hey, Bro. This is who I am. This is a part of actual, DNA. This doesn't feel like I'm sick. The only thing that made me feel sick was when I was in the transition and I'm trying to find an ethical way through this where people who were like me don't have to be ashamed or afraid of who they are. They can fully embrace it but also minimize harming people who are. In a way. So he has qualms with harming children that he's. He's outright said that don't harm. But he himself has backed down from harming other vulnerable populations like the lady who was blind and the bus station. So he's trying to figure this out for himself, his own identity, and a large portion of viewers is the question of identity win. This thing happens to you when events and circumstances are be on your control and they change you who are you now? Are you what the circumstances have done to you or are you how you deal with them? Is it a combination of both it's kind of a nature nurture issue, but that gets more into Danny and her sister than anyone else. That's more of a Danny meal issue, but you see that. It's different for Michael, because he is very strong and his conviction that this is who he is as a person, and even if other people have a problem with it, that's not a him problem that's them problem, and he wants the people who are like him to be able to have pride in themselves. So you see a lot of parallels between where Michael stands with the blood nation, and where we see the black lives matter movement happening in the United States right now where they're saying, Hey, this is who I am. This is how I was born. I, can't really change this and even if I could, I'm not sure I would want to which also has some parallels with the deaf community. And it's about embracing yourself for WHO and why you are, and I really love that about Michael and then luther just really believes in the good in other people. He doesn't necessarily. I don't think even want to change Michael Back to how he was before he misses his brother and their relationship that he had before, but he just doesn't want people to get hurt really and I think that if Michael. Just. Just had superpowers and he wasn't killing people then luther wooden, really have a problem with what's going on here either it comes down to whether or not people are getting hurt and Luther I? Stink seems to be do no harm. He's horrified when he kills people when he pulls the trigger on that guy was about to kill him and such and is also horrified that he has killed his wife jets. So Luther. Is just really trying to believe in the good and humanity, but it's really messed him up so far in believing that, he could go to the cops about his brother who was a man of color and also vampire at that point and being like, Hey, this man needs help. But again, as we discussed in previous episodes, there's not really social system in place in the United States to handle that as an alternative to the police, it would have been much better to. To have a social worker or someone of that nature to go and help Michael at that time instead of going to the cops. But at the time Luther, did not understand or see or have access to an alternative and people often take the path of least resistance. It's the one they're most aware of, and that's the one that they're most capable of following. So this is also a social policy issue that we are seeing as we sift through the story that is v Wars. And then we have Jimmy. So Jimmy has. Come into the story and kind of a weird way where he was already undercover and trying to figure out whether it's more important to maintain his cover or to effectively call the operate then or to convince the guys was to kill to run away. But he's already been beaten to it. He Lets Dana. He is a phenomenal character. We know that he has his own children, but we don't hear him say much about it. He's very reticent. He's much more like Kaley in many ways. Then he is like Luther or like Michael, he doesn't trust people like Michael, but also like Luther, he has a lot of heart and I really love that all four of these characters who are buying large my favorite characters in the show now that Teresa's gone. Theresa was one of my other favorite characters but. At season nine and on these my four favorite characters, it's really hard to just pick one or two. Oh, I. Forgot me La. So meal is one of my favorite characters as well. Honestly. They're just really great nuanced characters for the most part in the show and I love most of them. I don't love Danny I, love her as a character in Latte. She's complex and she provides a great juxtaposition to understand many of the other characters like Eva and Michael and me La. But like fewers individual person, she's just she has a big fife and gesellschaft. She has face in need of a punch I'm sorry if I butchered that word, but it is one of my favorites when it comes to compound words that vampire woman is just a terrible terrible human being and I'm not at all advocating for violence against women I'm saying that as vampire who preys on these people and his predatory and as awful as. As she was before I am surprised. We've not heard about more catfights. She's been in and that her cat fights with Eva have come to blows considering the fact that they are both vampires with superhuman abilities who were also prone to increased aggression from what we can tell granted. We don't know precisely how eva was before she was turned. We got to see that in Danny, but not an EVA, but we see that people in general in this show are pretty much the way that they were before perhaps magnified just a little. But when we look at Danny verses me, La. Where we look at characters like Michael. Who have had time to turn and then? Settled back into who they are as people unlike poor, Jess, who did not get that opportunity because she was killed i. We see though that these characters are typically how they were before, and that leads me to believe that EVA was already a little rough and tumble before. She seems kind of like a rough and tumble farm girl and I think that she totally has been in several actual fistfights from how her character's coming across and I'm surprised she is not popped. Danny. One in the process. We're GONNA go on break and when we come back, we're going to wrap up this episode in continuing to talk about how this conversation goes as most of this episode is two men in a room talking. We'll be right back. TV has changed over time. Streaming has become the new norm. That's why golden state media concepts television podcast dives headfirst to the world court cutting wants to be on the lube of what's hot and Netflix, or if it's not a preference, what about original shows in Hulu, we've got you covered, join us as we fill the blank and talk about movies, two streep and what show you should be binge it this. This is a golden state media concepts television podcast. Super. Status. stated. This four Berate Dean were talking about how these four characters who show up to the cabin are really intertwined based on the strength of their convictions. That's why it really brings them all together and what keeps them altogether. Again, this episode is largely just two men in a room, and I, really enjoy the about it. We haven't really gotten to see Luther and Mike's Brotherhood that lately, we got to establish it on and through some other conversations that they've had, but this is really getting to see them together. And I know, they get in a big argument in this episode and they are very angry at each other. But that's Kinda. How best friends and family works sometimes. They say that you always hurt the ones that you love. and. That's kind of how this goes. It's a lot easier for a lot of people to take things out on the people who are closest to them, like you have bad day at work and your boss is a jerk. Not My boss. My boss is great. They have always been super great, but you get what I mean previous monsters. I may have had in the past and your boss is in general perhaps, but you have a bad day at the office and a coworker or your boss is just rude to you or Kroll in whatever way or does not tactful. Then, you come home and you may be have had a really bad day. You still don't feel like you've been able to decompress from your drive home or lack thereof in cove nineteen or for anyone else like me who has worked at home for the past several years. And you have a conversation with your partner or you come in the door and they ask you for something before saying, hey, or whatever little tiny thing it is, is just finally your Straw because you're back in your comfort zone a place where you feel you can be yourself including being angry, and so you snapped them in. It's not necessarily that person you're mad at your mad at a situation, not even necessarily one that concerns them. But people bounce back from that when the relationships are tight. Now, that is definitely also not saying that it's okay to verbally abused the people that you love. If you're doing things like that, then it's important to examine where you're actually. Getting upset and what you're upset about and what it is that triggering it, and then also ways to prevent that from happening in the future finding things that are going to help you detox before you get home from work from all the anger. One of the things that one of my good friends used to do with me when we would work together is on the substantive drives back. And I would listen to the entire discography of cohesion. Cain brea at the time was over ten years ago. And we would just sing at the top of our lungs to, and it really helped us to get all of the excess aggression and anxiety, and just all the craft had gone wrong. That day may have gone wrong. Where things just just really long days. You know sometimes nothing bad really happens at work, but it's just been. A Very Long, day, and we were also working eleven fifteen hour days routinely back then. So you know we're out in the sun, it's going to happen. And we would go ahead and just sing it out in the car, and that helped us a lot. We're also very emotionally healthy with each other because we've been friends for so long, and so if one of us was being a be, the other one would just look up and go. You know you're being a beer now and you go. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. You don't deserve that I am just hot in retired and the other one would like hand you a water and or soda based on where the you needed sugar or just hydration, and you know also you know some wet wipes, we keep baby wipes in the cooler to mostly for other people who would pass out in our tents lot festivals but. We would get one of those. Cool off a little bit. It's like hey. I'm getting irritated. This could be like good heat exhaustion type of symptom I need to chill out. And quite literally as well, and that helped us quite a bit. But the thing is we were that comfortable with each other that we could just go. Hey, you're being real crappy right now and the other one go. Yeah. You're right. Because we weren't picking at each other about it wasn't judgmental of his just, Hey, you know you're not gonNA lay your shadow. You're GONNA lay your crap on me today. Lake also not happy. Don't take this out on me, and it's like you're right. You do not deserve me to take that out on you and I will stop doing that. Now I apologize and it would be sincere and we would go about our day. and. We're still very close to this day and we still fight and argue sometimes. And that's really where we see Luther and Mike here is there has been some source of division between them whether that's you know you working with a friend and you can't agree on something within your business decisions or you are living with a friend and it's turned out that you are the best of friends. But you for whatever reason cannot be roommates because of expectations where because of mismatches in personality, but don't matter with friends or with someone that you're not living with, but do folks you are living with. Or whether you just get in a fight about a misunderstanding, all of these types of things have happened in my life with my best friends, and sometimes we've gone six months or more without talking in the past. And whenever that's happened, we've found our own way back to each other. Even if we don't talk about the actual issue that initially caused the rift, we don't necessarily need to go in depth about that because we know each other well enough to know why the other person was upset and we've had enough space and time to go. Yes, you valid in that. In that doesn't invalidate my personal feelings. But I, acknowledge your feelings on this matter, and we don't necessarily have to agree on it, but you know we can move forward from here. and. I. Really Love that. About v wars approach to brotherhood and his conversation between Luther and Mike. At. A certain point Mike Absolutely Belo's up on Luther and is telling him you know. This is really hard for me I am. Suddenly a leader, all of these people. This is so much pressure. There are lives at stake on both sides contingent upon what I decide, and he likens it to feeling like he and Luther are trying to hold back the entire ocean. And it's so beautiful. The way that that lion is written and the way that Adrian Holmes delivers it. It has so much emotion in it, and it is phrasing it as being a brotherhood. It's he an luther. It's a we. He doesn't say it feels like I'm holding back the ocean. It feels like we are doing this. They are the missing links in this chain is holding humanity together with blood nation, and it's under a lot of stress right now and I do mean that in the mechanical and and the figurative sense. The literary. Sense. So, it's a beautiful way for them to phrase this, and you can understand how gutting that has to be feel like if you mess up the entire world may be really messed up because of you. It's one thing to look around at the world around you and go man these politicians and scientists, and all these other decision makers are really messing everything up for the rest of us. They're messing things up for the rest of the world, but imagine looking at it and having to go, wow, I've really messed up an entire world I of messed up everything. The world is terrible around me right now. I. Hate It, and it's all because of me and I don't know how to get from point be back to point A. I can't unring this bell in. This is just how things are going and it's all my fault. Granted not everyone in a position of authority is going to feel any sort of remorse or guilt or wander even at the amount of destruction and violence, they may have caused. Even inadvertently. But in the case of Michael, Fain Michael, does care, and this is where we see a lot of his empathy shine through. We've seen him question other people's motives and actions previously in him. Start Setting these boundaries, but Michael with Luther is able to be entirely who he is. Michael's also been feeling weak lately, and no one else is really said anything about it, but luther does call him out on it and he's like, no, you and other people might not catch that. But. What is going on? Why are you being? You know looking like you kind of peak it, and like you're GonNa fall over right now. And he just gets really mad at him about, and he's like I'm fine because he's reaches threshold of this negotiation with Luther, and still processing his feelings about how things have been in his estrangement as effective estrangement from his brother her. It's a lot for Michael and I can see how that would really take up a lot of emotional bandwidth. I don't blame him for being upset, but I'm also glad that Luther isn't scared of him and he tells them that he's like look I'm not scared of you. You are still my brother and you can get angry at me. You can tell they've likely had super big arguments over the years been very angry at each other, but that also just serves to strengthen bonds. Now I don't mean that's always a good thing. because. Then also happens a lot and toxic relationships. So when I say that fighting strengthens bonds, it is very similar Niro chemically in what it ends up doing to your Bonn as having a lot of sacks in releasing. Lot of oxytocin does just because biology is a beef. Sometimes, it is a bummer. So That's how your brain works and it can reinforce those bonds that you have another person. So if you know someone who's toxic Harley and the joker and they're always fighting and everything, but they're still together, you're like, why will it can just really chemically make you more bonded? It makes you feel a closer bond to that person. But if you're not fighting all the time years having natural disagreements that occurs sometimes in any relationship between people, sometimes it's going to end up a little heated, and sometimes it's GonNa take you a little bit to work through your feelings about it and to reconcile with your friend, but it's the Act of reconciliation. Really that is helping promote that bond because you're able to still come back and come. Come to terms. You still feel enough of a pool towards that person to turn back towards them after you turned away or after they've turned away from you, you're willing to take that first step, and so I think it is someone who has been estranged from some of my best friends in the past four months at a time from just having very strong disagreements and then having combat from that. I really enjoyed this portrayal of these two characters, the people in my life who are like brothers or sisters to me. I haven't fought that hard with all of them. But some of them I have, and then we get back together after being apart for a long time, and it's just like nothing happened. We still maintain our stances on how we personally feel about things. But we've decided that's not necessarily a breaking point for our friendship and that we can perhaps find a compromise as luther and Michael trying to do in this episode. Mike is eventually sitting down with Luther and discussing how these political games work and trying to phrase everything specifically, and Mike says, you know the devil's in the details and. Is Very true because we also seeing, Nikos going to turn himself into a vampire in the end of this episode or towards the end of this episode, and he really is the devil in these details. He's orchestrating a lot of the scientifically and he's involved in the political game although he does ask a senator calling the shots to pick a different scapegoat. And so we do have a devil in the details. We also end up seeing Jimmy getting shot while clearing the perimeter and it's justic redneck survivalists. Type guys hanging out in the woods nearby and thinks that Jimmy is obliged and shoots him in the leg and they think Jimmy. And until they have Kaley, take him to the hospital because the other two have been on the news and they can't have their faces out there. Keighley's face has also been on the news when she did they expose of Michael, but it's not going to be as recognizable as the other two. So k-league charged with driving Jimmy than the hospital and she's chattering to him the entire time, which is interesting because Kaley keeps everything. So close to invest. But Jimmy's bleeding out next to her, he might not make it. She's recently lost your again and Jimmy I think is one of the characters who is most light kingly herself. I think both feel deeply bent, also keep everyone out and. So. They have their different reasons for that I. Think Jimmy's is more to protect other people in. Keighley's as mostly to protect herself. But she's just chattering away at him and she's like you know, are you? Okay, what are you doing? What are you saying and he's like I'm just praying that the creator takes me now. It sooner rather than later I am tired of hearing you talk. And is pretty funny. We are lucky and that Jimmy turns out to be okay. But Kayleigh at first thinks that he's dead and she cries a little bit and it's weird that she's crying this dream state for Jimmy. Bates probably kind of manifestation of her processing, her feelings with again, she's been angry and everything, but she's finally crying and Jimmy essentially tells her good. That means that she's healing. And it's really important to have those cleansing tears. Sometimes, it's fine to be angry for awhile. Anger largely keeps that sadness at bay angers often a mechanism we use to. Feel less. So that, we don't hurt so much. But if you don't feel through it, then a lot of times, it's difficult to make that problem ever go away. That's something that I have been working on learning myself won't I've been home in North Carolina recently, and my best friend's helping me with it. I'm still working on it, but it was also very interesting to see that playing out in. V. Wars to. This episode was really interesting to me. I know a lot of folks like this is just two men in a room together, and that's why I mentioned in a couple of times because I've seen some complaints about it, but I think that their dynamic is very strong, it hoped underlying their past friendship by them. You know Michael blowing up on Luther and then Luther, still showing concern for him and just being not really fazed by it. And how Luther reports that to the senator, and also how they just look at each other after Jimmy is loaded into the car and is taken to the Er by Kane. Canley. That, you know this reminds them of a time they were in another country and had to. Help a guy get out of wherever they were were. He'd been injured and Michael's like, yeah, that guy didn't make it. A mere just like a because they really weren't sure that Jimmy was gonNA make it. But it also underlines that they've done this kind of thing before and in that way, it sounds like maybe luther has an MD and that perhaps he and Mike had worked together with Doctors Without Borders as kind of thing. So that would make sense and perhaps how they met or even maybe they joined together who knows. But now I'm thinking perhaps Luther is an MD specialized epidemiology maybe as a dual MD in a PhD. I'm not sure you guys. It's still a mystery about kind of doctor. Luther is in my book, but you know, maybe that's just the one secret he keeps. He wears most of everything else on his sleeve, Dr Swan, bent maybe that that part of the secret, we'll see maybe I just need to read the comic to get it listed out. For now, though we are done for the day, we will pick up with me and DEZ and Senator Giroux in the next episode when we also talk about season one episode, ten of viewers. Thank you for listening to the GSM see Fi podcast brought to you by GSM see podcast network. I'd like to ask e subscribe to the show and riding a nice review always really helps us. Also, if you could please follow us on facebook twitter and instagram and appreciate it. Thank you kindly and have a good night. You heard listening to the golden state media concepts sci-fi podcast part of the golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot. GSM Steve podcasts, dot com, or download our podcast on itunes stitcher soundcloud Google. 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Answering Your DMs - Bonus Episode #2: Eating Disorders, Friendship & Forgiveness

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Answering Your DMs - Bonus Episode #2: Eating Disorders, Friendship & Forgiveness

"At the family to the park really real. Why is everything competition scoring team competition? I just wanted to say Nikos in here and this is another bonus episode. Normally we do our podcast every other week and we have special guests but every other week. Now since we're in Corinthian still see we're going to be answering ause. Dm So also just like. I just have to say this. Because I'm so excited you do not want to miss next week's podcast like do not WanNa to miss it. We have pastor. Mike's todd from transformation church and was it not just so good. It was phenomenal. I was taking notes on the side and then at the end of it we decided we have to do a part to because this is just so good. So we're doing so we're doing part too but next week you don't WanNa Miss. It's part one is all about relationship goals but it's not just for people in a relationship is for the singles as for the pringles as for all of you people who just need a little guidance when it comes to religion which is all of us if you're married it's for you if you're dating it's for you if you're single it's for you if you've been married for fifty years it's like is so good and just rooted in God's Word so you don't WanNa miss it when you listen to it. You're going to want to have a notebook in a box of tissues. Five shore lying Joe Gibbs in chocolate too. So it's so good and you but for now we're GonNa read de ends and just Kinda give some of our own advice because this pug has circling around advice and hopefully help you out and whatever you're going through this DM says so. I'm bored in quarantine Ha and watching your video at Christian in about the year and I wanted to ask if you could do a video on creating lasting friendships. I've been struggling with that a lot lately and really can't figure out what the problem is. That such a good question and I love that you just acknowledging that it's a struggle. I can't find a lasting friendship and you know we were actually talking about this two days ago me and my sister and my mom. We'RE TALKING ABOUT FRIENDSHIPS. That are for a season friendships. That are for forever and I'll be honest like there are some friendships that come into your life that I believe are truly for a season of your life and I think the key to the season off friendships is. That doesn't mean that they have to end with like Abang that doesn't mean left end and like a bad way or whatever I think seasonal inches is when you have a friend that like is so intentional for that time and it is awesome in a mutually at the same time. God just kind of take you to a different place and there's no hurt feelings and you love that person they love you. And then there's like blessing and peace and that's totally normal and that's totally. Okay there is another friendship that is like a life long friendship. I think how you develop those lifelong jobs is you got to be straight up real like you gotta like no that. If they're a lifer like they're gonNa see you in your good bad and ugly and you're going to see them. They're good bad and ugly. And how quickly do y'all come back from arguments? How do you choose to love each other? What are the words orgies? How do you forgive each other? Are you there for them when times are bad? Are they there for you? Truly walking every season out with another person no matter how different it looks like for me I think of me and laney like Laney's a lifelong friend but the thing is like we have have our fair share of disagreements or maybe little arguments but like we come together and we talk and we talk it out but the same time like no matter what I know of. I needed anybody to talk to your anybody. They're like many would answer the phone you know and like she would be there and now we're in two completely different places like she lives in a different state than I do except for like we still call each other. Esa Love Her. I'd be there for her for anything and so it's just like being the friend that just bear being real. Yeah that's what I was going to say because for me. My friendships that I know will last a lifetime. I know that those are the ones that you're the most transparent with your the most vulnerable with and like you said there are the good times. There's the tough times. And there are times where we have to work through things but really just maintaining communication with one another and really likes. Eighty said just always being there for one another. I think that's the best way just to have one of those friendships. As knowing that you're always there for the other person and that you're gonNa tell them the good bad and the ugly and everything in between so good babe. Somebody actually has another question. That's Kinda similar to this and I said how do I forgive somebody who keep speaking hurtful words over me but their family member so it's like they can't just leave like it's one of their parents but I also don't want to just limit this question like just a pair of failure really. How do you continue? Forgive somebody because ballot talks about like forgiving seventy dollars like unlimited forgiveness. Our be so honest like as hard as that is there is a reason. Jesus said that it's so necessary because the thing is if you don't forgive somebody. Bitterness grows in your heart and it will grow and it will grow and and it's a gift that keeps on giving it in the most negative way because I feel if you forgive somebody like for instance if a Christian Anna argument right now and I didn't forgive him and we're not we're not and I love this place and Ma'am heart was just growing bigger and better than that is just getting to linger and linger and linger. But if I can just stop right here and say you know like that was not cool and this hurt me because of this but I forgive you. There is so much power in those words because when you walk away don't walk away. Harbor in those feelings are that bitterness. At which would turn into resentment and are that's just a small example but if you're in a relationship with somebody else here no there's been things that they've said that really hurt and you don't have the relationship that you can walk up to them and say I forgive you to me. I've had this type of relationships and I have to like say to myself like I. Forgive that person for this. That really hurt. But I'm not GonNa let that make me damage my heart and my soul and become bitter and become resentful and Kinda not be able to have the piece in the love Anna. God would offer me if I just forgive this person. That's so good. I love what you said about forgiving. Seventy Times seven. Jesus said his followers of Jesus. We are to post it. Forgive those and I the thing for me that really helps me the most is just thinking about the crucifixion. Jesus is being nailed to the cross by his creation new. He's the Creator operation. He's praying father. Forgive them for. They don't know what they're doing. And it's like if you can forgive in that moment then whatever. I'm going through absolutely pales in true what it would feel like that moment to actually. WanNa forgive those people so I think really that just humbles made to the extent of a you know it's not the end of the world is not that big of a deal. I can forgive them if if Jesus could forgive those and he commands us and he really wants us to forgive those that we can look at that and I think that that can really help. I love it. I know this is a really good question and actually think we can both speak to this which should be powerful for guys and girls listening so somebody asked Hayes. Eighty don't know if you're going to see this Gotcha but it's related to my essay above and we're going off of the essay above but she was talking about the call of God in different things in her life and we can talk about the call of God and a different one because so many people ask about the call of God but she was asking about so just want to know how you've grown your relationship with food in your body image since you had an eating disorder a long time ago. So here's what I want to say to that because I do think you know I talked about at the time but I don't really talk about it that much anymore and to be honest like now. I'm in like the best ways I've ever been with my body with Mama heart with body all different things and it's kind of sad because sometimes you know you're going through something going through it you talk about it but then when you overcome it you don't talk about it as much but hey gabu the gory because he really brought me out of that in a Catholic Christian set a second ago like any time you fix your eyes on Jesus. Because he's the author in the professor faith it does transform your life Hennig transform your vision and transforms everything about you and you know in every eating disorder is different. Some people's eating disorder is totally for a different reason. The my own. I can only speak to my own experience for me. I was just thinking about myself too much. I was so focused on what I looked like Alice. Show focus on what everybody else would I in comparison to what I wanted to make sure my legs were? The smallest in my waist was the smallest. All of these things in a never felt like it was in every time a little in the mirror. I fell like I needed to achieve something more and so I would go out and run more walk more whatever and eat less or whatever and a lot of it came from words other people spoke over me that. I'll just let sink straight to my heart. Did a little modeling and some of the things that the photographers would say or some of the things that the guy I was dating would say would just make me feel like I wasn't enough but yet there was a goal that I could reach. That would've made me enough and maybe that you believe you know. I think you have to find. The root of the line I think for me was that I'm not there yet but I can be if I keep going in this direction and the truth going in that direction was like killing me like it wasn't good for my body but especially wasn't good for my mind and my soul a spirit and as Phil when I look back at that time although I wanted to look a certain way and I really strived to be that certain way L. Back that time in my memory is like that of the things I was doing because it was so focused on myself as a things around me. And so taken that distraction out of my life and how overcame that was literally like. I got so tired of it. I got home a face and I was like God. Like just renew my mind. God-like make me near and there was a daily decision to like. Just not think about myself so much like just workout because I want to work out or eat this because that's what I want to eat and it's good for my body nourishes my body then get enough and to be honest. I have gained a lot of ways since that time but I couldn't feel more confident or be in a more healthy space. Because I know now that I am enough exactly where I'm at and not only am I. Noth- exactly where I feel like I'm the person that God created to be. This is the healthiest version of me. Does it look like other people know? In comparison to other people is the same. Does it measure up in a Wurley Standard? Maybe not but to me. It's the perfect way that God made me and I think for you. That's it you think about that. You're not gonNA reach a certain point is GonNa make you may be a better version of yourself by doing in the negative way you're gonNA reach a better place that makes you a better version of yourself whenever you seek the Lord and the Creator who created you and find your full identity in him and guess what. It's not GonNa look like anybody else. She can't compare it to the left or the right or it's not going to become better. You have to look within and asked Lurid to just give you vision for that and daily make decisions that are negative are positive for you and your body and as a lot as the mouth full and I've never really like thought never really liked put together answer for that. So that's just like the honest truth about like from the heart to you. If I was like sitting with you and you just randomly that question at a copy shop. Dow It'd be what I would say but honestly Christian. I've had a lot of conversation about this because when we started dating I share with him that I used to struggle with that and I was like. I don't WanNa go back but I'm just telling you this because I'm sensitive to different things that people say and so like don't ever say anything negative about my body. Not that he ever would. He wouldn't but people have it that they didn't have that and I'm like it doesn't send me in a good direction but because you were never Christian whenever I share with them I was so shot because he was like. Oh I totally understand where you're coming from and share any. Yeah for sure by those amazing for me. I kind of went through the same thing for a season. Which by the way like when Kristen said that you had to do the same thing I was like really because I'm sitting here thinking. Only girls go through that. I was like. Don't even say anything about it because like a whole thing on that like share with him I pass and he's like oh it's the same thing I'm like. You did. Yeah to for me a few years back I remember. I got to the point where I wanted to be in such great shape and I wanted to me like you said I just wanted to look and I feel like that is became so consuming and it was always worried about what I looked like what others thought. It looked like and it got to the point where I was thirty like every night. Eating like broccoli like grilled chicken sweet potatoes. I remember like in that season. Some like my guy friends would go to dinner and I wouldn't go because I had to be on this regimen and I was working at like six or seven days a week and it just became something that was just so consuming and I remember one day. I was about to go to the gym to workout. I was just thinking about going to the gym again and I was like my happy. I think that's really. The question is like you know if you're doing this you're falling into that like does that make you happy an for me? I I got to the point. Where like going to the gym was just miserable. Like I did not want to go. I did not want to keep doing the regimen is doing I did. I did not want to keep up with this facade that I was really putting up to kind of prove myself that I could get to the point and I just took a break from working out. I just stopped stopped Karen Eight but I definitely less conscious of what I was putting my body and I just really kind of took a re setback and like okay. Why do I WANT TO BE IN SHAPE? Why do I wanna eat healthy and it really got to the point where I was doing it just because I enjoyed it not because I felt like I had to look a certain way and just say like now we both genuinely love to work out like we love it and we actually enjoy eating healthy but the thing is is there is freedom and now like used to. We were like a slave to. It's like we have to work out. We have to because we want to look a certain way and it was not even a practical version of ourselves but now it's like no we love to work out and we love healthy because it fuels our body because we feel because there's freedom in Newark out when we wanted to if we don't workout. We don't punish ourselves for that or anything like that and so I think you need to realize like am I asleep to this or am I freely doing this because I want to do this because it's good for me or because I have to and because what people think. I think you need to set your intentions for why you're working out. Why eating healthy. Why are you doing the different things you're doing while you're thinking about food so much while you're thinking about working out so much because all those really starting the mind? I you know before it really affects the body and so yeah Krisha both experienced that. And Oh also say this if you're going to find a friend or if you're in a relationship your husband or your boyfriend or your girlfriend or whatever you can openly talk through. That won't shame you for the things that you're walking through because what happens is makers say is that a crime is not a crime for anybody to do this but a lot of people would say. Let my gosh like member back. Then you looked so good like you were so in shape like man like I've never seen you so skinny or so fit or they member. What your ABS and they send you back to the past and they don't know what you're going through during that time there innocently saying that and then you'll be like. Oh yeah ha ha ha back then and the only thing you can think it was like the negative place you're in. I think it's so good for you to be with a person you can say like. Hey actually no you look so much better now. You like so much better now that you're in this space. I would take this person over that person any day because of the heart that you have and you look great. And those type of things you can just encourage. We will because other people who don't know you don't what you're going through your heart to they innocently saying it but for you to know somebody's heart and you'd know somebody's mind and you'll be able to protect that and showed that with them so powerful. Ecclesiastes clearly asi says two are better than one right and so I think that's the same. That's what it's really saying these type of situations to are better than one because we get to speak into each other's lie from the truth that we know when sometimes truth can be fired. Somebody speaks a word over your mind that you don't really want to let in that wasn't even bad to say because send you down a negative spiral and so find a friend. Open up share. I've a friend who will call me if she's going backwards and I have my friends who I will call when I'm going backwards and just had this people that you know you can talk to whenever you're in a negative head space that will bring you back to truth not just like pump you up but actually bring you back to truth well. We've talked about his today. We have talked about friendships and forgiveness and eating disorders. I know these things that we all go through and just see you know none of us. Have it figured out? We're all figuring out but we know that Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life and we know that going through him as how we get to the father so I hope that today you like take all these things are your everyday struggle and bring it to the Lord bring it to Jesus. Because he's the way he is good true. He's alive and in through him. You have access to the father our creator who is a good one and said take all these questions. Take these feelings. Brigham to God. If you're like Hey. Somebody hit me really hard. I haven't been doing apply it to your life let that conviction sink in and repent repent is simply to turn turn back to God and I hope that these things encouraging today and don't forget next week Mike. Tired GONNA be put it on your calendar on your calendar next Wednesday guys April the Twenty Ninth Twenty Twenty Mike Tyler. Go all right love y'all.

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271: The 5 Core Conversations For Couples

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271: The 5 Core Conversations For Couples

"Chris. What's going on guys thanks for tuning into today's show. Hey tribe. Yes. Welcome. Thanks for being here with us. Today we have a super fun interview with David. In Julie Bullet and they have been married for thirty four years. Julie is a licensed clinical social worker and has spent the last more than twenty five years working with. Couples and families, and David is a divorce lawyer and the Washington DC Metro area in. Obviously that's a super unique conversation with Julie being therapist. David. A divorce lawyer in their seeing people on. Similar spectrums and and obviously David is getting people that are usually bit upset with each other they're divorcing and Julie maybe couples families struggling or they're doing well but. From these two unique perspectives and so they came together and they wrote a book. The five core conversations for couples, and that's what we talk about today in. We really appreciate them giving a lot of personal stories. We think this is really valuable. For two here in in for you guys as well to know that. Relationships take work and there's hard things in the relationship when we talk about them through these five conversations and it really goes like this building in filling that's the beginning of the relationship finances, parenting sex and balancing the relationships. So we talk about each of those and we really enjoyed today's conversation. He had. We really loved having both of them on both of their perspectives and really them as a couple they seem amazing and. We really enjoyed having them on the show and so as always. Thank you guys so much for listening for sharing the podcast with your friends and family. You guys are always asking how you can support us and if you would like to do. So there's a link in our show notes. That takes you over to glow which allows you to donate to us. On a monthly basis or one time whatever feels right for you So we appreciate you guys so much and enjoy today's episode. Before we jump into today's interview we wanna tell you about our online course spark my relationship. Do you want to create more passion, improve your communication and build a stronger more intimate connection with your partner in less than ninety days? Then, you guys need to check out our online course, spark my relationship. It is an online course like I mentioned that we created with over fifteen therapists and psychologists to bring you guys the strategies marriage therapists teach to their clients. We talk about it on the show relationships take work sometimes, they functioned pretty easy Nikos along but. We've found the reality is as you have to do work sometimes in to make them better to change them. so that they're more satisfying for both partners and you've made it here, you've made it to listening to our show. So you guys probably already know that a little bit but what you might not know are the specific tools and exercises that you need to create those lasting and positive improvements in your relationship and like chase change does not happen on its own. It takes hard work and that's why we created the course sport. One relationship is designed to infuse your life in relationship with fresh passion skills in wisdom. And it's a self paced journey. That's perfect for turning up the heat having some fun together and revolutionizing your intimacy in communication. And just some tools and strategies that the course includes is to how to eliminate unhelpful old habits develop mindful awareness to help improve your stress management learn healthy and successful communication tools create a deeper and more intimate bond and strengthen your couple Michael Culture, which you will find out what that is and the future together. So for our listeners only we're offering a special of one hundred dollars off the course visits spark my relationship dot com slash unlock to unlock your discount, and there is a thirty day money back guarantee. So there really is no reason to not give it a try. So go to spark my relationship dot com slash unlock for one hundred dollars off. Hi David. Hi Julie Thank you guys so much for joining us on the show today. Thank you for having US zero our you doing we are wonderful. Thank you. We've given our listeners a little bit of information about your professional background, and we thought a great place to start would be given both of your unique professional background and. Ask You. About your decision to write a book together the five core conversations for couples. Sure. So so I've been a divorce, I will join been married since nineteen, eighty six. I've been a divorce lawyer since ray about that time Julius a licensed clinical social worker family therapist an NC couples as well and so we we spent a lot since we talk for a living right we spent a lot of time talking to each other and those those talks over the years sometimes were. Heated, sometimes funny. Sometimes, we're semi intoxicated, but often our about looking relationships for Berry different visuals from a different hue where we're Josh see people when things have gone down the tubes are on their way down where Julius they're trying to keep that. From going down that. So basically we. Back. We looked at some of the things that we talked about and we decided there was a lot in common and. Issues for whether they're. Getting worse worser trying to keep it together and. David has written a couple of worse. He was like, Hey, maybe this would be an interesting conversational type up that we could do. Together and David's really the writer and I'm more of the creative force and. So it was an interesting process writing it, but that's Kinda, came up with with doing. Excellent well, thank you for sharing that and yeah, it seems like the next logical step for a divorce lawyer and a family therapist that are married to come together and share that knowledge because it's very valuable from those perspectives and then bring that together. So we're really excited to talk about the five core conversations that assuming that are the things that you guys. Kind of Said Okay here the big themes that were seeing separately and together our professional work, and then maybe even personally, and let's let's get that information out there. So let's talk about some of these conversations for couples. Why don't you guys just get US started with what you thought of for the first big conversation that you think couples should address sure and also. Preliminarily. What we decided to do, what we're writing this was was to get personal chair. So now own way you know as a Jewish perspective on different things in mind sometimes there's similar oftentimes different, but also the the entire book. Is is believed in our life leads. Where we our own issues in terms of parenting out issues with with financial financial circumstances and sexual issues, and so forth, and that sort of leads into the book, and so what we were talking, right we start to figure out there basically are kind of five areas. Core areas where people need to be able to communicate and for us is fine for areas challenger these right the building and showing what do you need to know about somebody else when you need to communicate with your partner about as you're started starting relationship building, your relationship starts to fill as relationship together gross finance money. Children parenting. On Sax, we call that section bumping and grinding and then, and then the whole balance. Balancing eye versus the way and and and that whole part of a relationship. So the five core conversations are really really just after five cores and there's a lot of conversations within. Let's start in talk about the building and filling is that kind of at the beginning of a relationship and? Setting a good foundation. Yeah. So we sort of talk about you know how the excitement newness of of a relationship is is there and how that helps people. You know what to look for and what kinds of things you should be thinking about. Doing as a couple, but we also used the building in filling. He's as a way for people to remember y connected and remember. You know why they're together on that actually as therapists. That's actually a technique strategy that that we use a lot as as family visits with couples were is what brought you together and you know what? We're the connections and what was great about it. Is that. You know that excitement in that newness but there's still ways that they connected back then and we try to you know the numbers how they're connecting now and kind of bring that back. So that's sort of an aspect of the building and selling piece. The at the short communication itself. We spent a lot of time on the chapters. New for example, there's one in there. We all silence is not golden where and all of us have heard this friends or people that we now are mad at my spouse matter my significant others, not GonNa talk to her for a week as we talk a little bit about that we talk about how you get the message across you know and it's not just that the medium is the message, but you gotta listen to what the messages you have to put it in a certain way or it's not gonna get across Julian either jerk that I have a Jewish you'll wake up in the morning and before it even opened one I, she's telling me something than the. Bright Lights of. Being wait for nine seconds is really a no way. But I've been away for an hour. So we talked about two or three things. It wouldn't be that way and we do talk about not not just what you have to say, what how you say you say is directed that sort of in that sucks. Yeah. So a lot about communication. In that in that section sort of how you build communication skills and how do you keep going I love how you mentioned. It's not just what you say it how you say it because. So often when you're in a conversation like with Jason I, there's those nonverbal cues and all those signals and sometimes the snarky comments that. Not, is coming across how you want it. So and I'm sure that's all couples are in that same situation. Can you talk a little bit about that briefly just the importance of how you say it and all those nonverbal communications? Absolutely we actually you know the. Some research about about the words versus is the non verbals you know that that content versus the process, and what they found was that the words really had very little effect compared to you know how somebody you know the tone and? Language. So absolutely, Yes. So even in an having difficult conversations, you know things that are to talk about if you practice them in the right time and you'll also get some warning around around things like, Hey, this is something that's on my mind or can I chop to you can we can sit In the living room for a minute, just have A. Conversation. So yes, how you say it and when you say it is very, very important. I think it's you know if somebody's rushing around busy. In. A bad mood or whatever. That's at the time to have a conversation. That's. So kind of knowing that peace and be respectful of the other person where they are. Great Awesome well, let's jump into the Second Corps conversation. Your money finance. Up and I don't know how long you guys have been. You can think about one of the big things that probably has been an issue is an issue for most in some time or another if not throughout their relationship is mile, not just how you spend it. Now you save it and like Julie says his several times as a people come to relationships very different, financial valley. Some of its face on. How you were raised, you know if if one party one person was raised in a family that really had things tight growing up. And didn't get a new pair of shoes every three or four months her had to take the school bus. Whereas the other partner got arrives at school better car when she was sixteen and had a credit card and all the sudden they're thrones together how they look at money how they spend it how they segment often gives rise to. Yeah, and money means different aims for different people sometimes being able to spend money is a great feeling for some one person and being able to save money is great. You know can be a great thing for another person. So you think about it you know how you think about money how you think about saving money in sending money is is most likely going to be different? You know it's it's not com to relationships with the same you know same amount of. Ideas around saving and spending and then plays out in relationships if you're not on the same page and you don't have discussions about it. Can definitely cause difficulty. Having, being having knowledge about what's going on in your financial relationship is important. We have a chapter in a book. called. Don't wait for the repo man, which is based a right right on target. Client. Years Facts who? Lived in sort of Jolan place that everything was gray and use your car to go to the grocery store your car to go to the mall where people could go to malls. and wasn't worried mice Carlos in a nice house and had no just didn't know anything and then how did she find out? She found one spring morning when she was woken up. I. Several men outside her door speaking Spanish and tone her car, West. Reassessing her car so I think I hard part of the conflict around money. Is is that the oftentimes one person SORTA? Is Controls it, and which is perfectly fine works in your relationship with the person who doesn't ought to still have some feel for what's going on and understanding of what things cost and how things are pace. On So. That's that's an area where we talked about the balance of power with money. Money is power and and and also knowing what's going on. Even if you're not one that pays the bill, our ordinances to communicate like, Hey, we are here on Weei needs to needs bolt together for David I. WE gotten ourselves into quite a bit of a financial. bond buying gas over the years you know kind of combination of things in some somewhat is sticking your head in the sand in some was that we had a childhood special needs a we were meeting yet her a lot of expensive therapy services and suffering that system was definitely our faults and other was was circumstance fight. You know we we ourselves had to. Pull together I actually used the Dave Ramsey debt diet model at the book the we sat down, we wrote down everything the old emily made a plan of how in A. Car At. One Frontal Reality T. bird away. Really cool for the earth. To Sell. Can we dig into that a little bit we appreciate you guys sharing that because that's obviously personal and something that a lot of couples face and now more than ever with vid my job has been on pause for six months now and hopefully there's some light at the end of the tunnel here and borders are opening back up. I'm down here in Costa Rican brought run surf camps in the borders are closed and there's just no work coming in in so. This is presenting a lot of problems for millions of couples out there. So how did you guys? What are some of the conversation the conversations you had? Did you argue about maybe getting rid of the thunderbird? Navigate that. We had. To we had arguments. That were part of all this, which is you know so i. got a new pair of sneakers. Right Julie might say, well, if you got those that I could get this. And that led to this kind of A. Arms racy the Ash tit-for-tat and they do that. Do this a lot I see it with time I see it with with you know good as well. Material Anes. So yes, but I, think what you're talking about is, yes a lot of a right around our especially a lot of people are financially in different positions than they were and how do you go through with? Okay. So we're going to get rid of this going you know are we gonna get rid of that and? Probably more invested in one thing or the other you know like. If you had a hard conversation about late meeting to downsize your house there's GonNa be one person that is you know more for. Another person that's more against it and negotiating and really trying to take perspective of how hard it is for. You know for the other person I know we went through we just. Our House David wanted to move years ago and I just wasn't ready. And you know it was hard but we had to do a lot of really negotiation I would say problem solving collaboration in negotiation around what we would get what? Easy for is easy for one our disable we don't need this whatever it is his own use it care. Whereas the other person's will hold on a second I do and and how do you work around this site the to me I think about is the opposite of. Going, going down, the ladder is generally a lot easier than climbing a ladder. But when you're talking about ending cutting back on spending as a rottweiler and just spending whatever he wants and and we did we did have surreal struggles in some of those reposed upon us by our circumstances in the need to that, we felt to try to on help our child and get hurt a better place and on that raise issues of jealousy and anger we spent this on her why don't we? Why can't we just go and get this far south and and it was a cycle and it was a cycle of Ghana's in trouble conflict but ultimately. We were kind of able to to put our heads together and work through yet. Absolutely. It seems like in regards to. The hard financial conversations now in, let's say downsizing or getting rid of things. It's really taking a perspective of empathy towards your partner where the thunderbird. Of course, give it away like easy. And then the partner who's who's Thunderbird it is. It's very could be very personal. So really trying like you said not not going down that tit for tat in that sense of like. Well, if I give this up, you have to give that up in. Really realizing you're on the same team. Yeah exactly. Exactly and then you know of course, there's there was blazes with a financial stuff that that we were able to really come together and that would be like, okay. We're just not eating our we're GONNA cook and you're gonNA do some cooking and I'm GonNa just of the cooking. Clipping coupons and you know those kinds of things together and you know I wouldn't wish anybody to have to go through financial things but I do looking back think that it really made us stronger together and a US another like check box to say like, okay we can get through difficult things and we did and it makes you feel good when you get you know when you get there and you come together. and. Certainly, a lot of people are going to be under this this external pressure of the pandemic in adding general stress particularly yes. Financial and uncertainty because I know it's affecting a lot of people's are has affected. So really valuable to to come into those conversations understanding we're on the same team in a with as clear head as possible in avoiding the tit for tat. I would say that's true and then you know looking at the big picture what what's the goal here you know the goal is to be able to put your head on the pillow and not freaking out about him bills are where you gonna live or how you GonNa get food or high. Right. So like what are what are the? What are the end goals for your? Relationship Financial Goals and I think that's kind of the bottom line is now, where do you WanNa be when you figure that out? Think that helps you get there. 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So, let's talk about parenting and why you guys included it in maybe some of your experiences. Okay. So let's So we have four daughters. So we have really interesting family dynamic. We have our oldest in our youngest daughter. Are both biological. And then we have two adopted girls that are in the middle and our adopted girls are biological sisters as well. So and they have the same biological appearance. So we don't our family a little bit differently. In a very in a in an environment that lacks testosterone. Rebellious But. So what would? Really came to the fore with us was we're issues in raising our third daughter, not only in terms of raising her that that we couldn't handle her. But how to try to manage her mental health issues or behavioral issues and at the same time lot not lose track of how affected our other children and that. In looking back now years later, and if we were to say that there is a place that maybe you really will try to have done better I. think it would have been trying to manage and be more aware of how the circumstances affecting the other kids in the house in certainly. In addition to that, how to add a daily daily effect on jury and our our relationship? Our relationship and our Metropol. Probably our physical. Up that too. So yeah. So we talked you know we talk a lot about putting. It s parents putting your oxygen mask on. You know I making sure that your is in good shape as possible. So you know with my clients and for myself I do focus on a lot of self care and care kind of taking making sure bet of parenting thing is big and important but your kids will hopefully eventually leave one day and you still want to have you know our relationship that's a decent one with your. Partner I. Mean there were times. That you look back and there were they were heartbreaking at the time when you're in the midst of them. From a selfish perspective. So you for example, we have a chapter were that's called. No no one brings you dinner when your kids in the site. And and that's based on you. If you think about your neighbors quickly of friends, somebody has a kid that sick or somebody's in the hostels whatever may be everybody's bringing meals and making sure they're okay and we were lived in that. Neighborhood and we had a family that had a couple of kids got injured and people were lined up outside their door literally for days. which was lovely in the right thing to do. If flash slash forward and our daughter had an issue in the neighborhood and everyone knew that she was she had been hospitalized for mental health issues and the joke Julian I was you know we didn't get as much as a happy meal. You know there was no call there was no chicken nuggets. It was no, there was none of that and. You know and and it was for us. It was a tough thing but but but they was probably even. Now. Looking back. On the other kids who were who were. Young teenagers. Each yeah, and the other piece to this is that I in writing this want people to know that they're auto loan if they have issues with their kids or disagreements on how to parent their kids they don't come with manuals and it's not clear and you do the best you can and a lot of people really seal Oh my God. This up with that the other piece to it is there you you're not always gonNA react in in the perfect way I mean I I work with. Couples in how parents With behavioral issues and there's no way that you can perfectly do it yourself every time and not to beat yourself up over it and being I'm a I'm a trained therapist and I got it wrong a lot. So that's the other pieces like this is not easy. This is the hardest job you will ever have being hair. Is? Hard what we're trying to encourage people that we thought was were wasn't that our stories are going to be the same right are are. Different from. Yours. But at that. People I think can take comfort in in other struggles in. A positive way, and certainly when you look into struggles to people Julia myself who you know on the outside looking in, we've had people think oh gosh they must be they're great. Everything's perfect. And it wasn't an. And and so when we try to talk about these stories in the book and Not, expecting other people have the same family dynamic but. They can find some kind of hope and comfort in the fact that is okay to struggle as okay to have things that are tossing raising kids. But lean back on your relationship try to stick together. You know he that rope tied and he and he plowing ahead. I love that you mentioned about being able to relate to people in that way because I think one of the good things that has come out of this pandemic and this cove it if anything is that we're we're able to see the other people are also in similar situations and struggling in just trying to get through each day with especially with parenting right now because it's so hard having the kids home and working and how it's affecting your relationship and for those moms and those parents out there that have been open about these struggles. You can really relate to them and say you know I'm I'm not alone hearing you to share those stories in your book and Be Yeah it it. It really is important for people to be able to hear your stories and relate and it. It builds connection and it really allows people to know that they're not alone. That's what we hope. Yes. That's exactly what we're hoping for. Let's go on. To another important topic and each one of these topics deserves its own show if not more but. We really appreciate you guys sharing all these personal details and in professional details. So let's talk about sex and why you guys included in the book. Twelve we couldn't. I mean that the you know. Talk, about couples issues without talking about tax rates money for sure. So we call the section about sex appropriately bumping and grinding which has its own metaphor. You look at it, I suppose. Again, and when people come to my office and Julie has the say this is one of the things you learn one of the primary complaints that people have Ron. How meeting with them is their sexual relationship are. Either not enough not happy looking outside whatever the case. A few times it's too much at their, they come on. Too much sex I can't take you there. And I asked this. Sort of asked this question, the book is you know how many people out there. Think that if everyone sexual relationship was good good man in your relationship that can be different yet and would be just one of the other. People that the divorce rate would drop through the floor of the answers everybody in the room hands get race because it's because and that's not to say that sex the. because. Julie, thanks that I think that it is certainly in certainly is is a significant heart finding. That's. Relationship Success and like other things, it can bleed into other areas of your relationship. So if you're unhappy. Sexual ING. You take it out on apartment other ways right talk come home you whatever. Maybe you don't clean the kitchen you you do the things, other things that you need to keep your relationship. Going away. Yeah. And then you know one of the other issues with sex in we talked about this last week as we we did a like a facebook happy hour vote. We talked about the mismatched sexual desire and how Haman that is in how when you think about it. You know why is that? Well, you know I had analogy. that we all have different thirst levels I mean you know even drinks a different amount of wire that I drink daily and some people during a lot of water took a little bit of water and it it's not a bad thing. But so very rarely do you house a couple that comes together that really has the same. Appetite for sex or the desire the same need whatever you WANNA call it. So that causes a lot of friction. Not to be funny about it but yeah, friction in religion, we have a we have A. Book called is not a budget i. Hear. A lot of where we we we had sex on Tuesday and. Friday so why you bother? And so. Again Share some of this stuff is is more than just personal for our children. Who Wins Three time they saw at it right but. You know these are things that that if you don't talk about you don't. And it's not gonNA. It's not gonNA go. It just isn't and sex is a difficult thing to talk about we. We try to do it under the under the clanking of humor. With you know with no series ashes to it, and and so that is a big area for us for we both see conflict or those see people who don't communicate yet, and therefore it's a major it is core conversation people needs. In inner book at the end of each. Core area we have questions we come couples, starters, and a lot of people have really enjoyed them and use them to start. You know start conversations were happy about that. Has. Gotten. A lot of feedback about that. How do the two of you incorporate humor into the conversations like what does that look like for our listeners who want to maybe incorporate that into their relationship into that tricky conversation we want to each other. Sarcasm. Sarcasm. Just personal insight jobs. But. Yeah. I mean if you if you have something hard to say thank you MERCI great way to do it and You know. We use it a lot. I mean. Most recently we were. Talking about what we're GonNa do that particular night and I made sort of a Off, the top my head or came out of my time was some metaphor that actually was made no sense whatsoever now did make no sense Juliana Juliana gross doubts that sounds awful. I'm trying to be SORTA semi sexy. Hunting come out very. Yeah. Yeah, I was curious if it ever backfired you know and I'm sure it does but I think the point is that it's the humor that really keeps relationships going you have to you have to laugh in a relationship. I always say like looks fade but sense of humor. With somebody that you think is funny. Exactly exactly. Awesome. Let's jump into the V the balancing. So, walk us through that. Yeah so there's there's lots of components about this. So let me just classically say like let's just take mother that has kids and she basically has given up taking care of herself has given up friends hobbies in those kinds of things and. And really just. Junk Sancha parenting, the kids all the time, those inch parenting, the kids, and she sort of forget about herself number one and she may be forgets about her art or two, and so we talk about the importance to make sure that you are taking care of yourself that you're keeping up with some. Outside interests. Hobbies at other friendships and making sure that you're kind of a balanced person island to lurk. Analogy a little bit right where they were. You know there's no I team with there is there is I think I in US sometimes you hear about these people i. GotTa do everything together we have to do everything together with him ever be set. We have to be on the same page of to travel together we have to constantly be tied at the hip and we you know and and if that's what works for a couple then that's terrific for most of us, that isn't going to be what's going to work that. We all need our own our meantime or whether it's for Julia might be a half hour by herself in the bathroom, a making jokes or leery matter you're saying. Ten o'clock I. Might be just you know leave me I'm taking my dog's brought for walk in the woods or whatever might be during porch or something but I think people lose sight of the fact that you got I think that for most of us know this for most of us kind of a kind of project not for everyone. But for most of us, it's important to maintain our own individual cells within. We're so do things together due partly and be happy be proud of that party and understand that's important. Don't feel guilty for taking some time for yourself either. For yourself or as a couple going out happily it's Like Oh, you know especially during this time with the Kobe people aren't able just to get a babysitter or even family member to take your kids so that they can go out on a date night. So be being really creative and mindful about taking time for yourself. But also just having a, you know we're going to watch a movie tonight. Are we're GONNA sit on the front step and have a drink together or whatever it is But you know making it a priority making yourself a priority but also making you know the couple a priority to finding finding appreciation, which can be very, very difficult this. Where people and and I know Giulinai fallen this Oh as well. You're looking at thinking about the things that you have missed out on over the last few months. We didn't get to go here and get to this I. my parents didn't get to see the baby. You know all of those things and it's very easy to focus on the things you miss out on. And lose sight of what you what you should try as easier said than. Time. But if you do a little time, it's a good thing focus on the appreciation. There's. There's a chapter in the book that's called the best shaking in the potty ever eight, which is which is based on a dinner out with with some friends and my grandfather who was who was ill at the time and Kuni we went to this steak house, Chicago and all sort of these giant states. Yeah. Look like something from the Flintstones the big. Burger kind of thing, and they were just awesome big fat steaks and he couldn't stay he could needed. So he ordered chicken in the pot he's rather than him. You know look at this guy, you know he he was born in the early part of the twentieth century grew up eat meat potatoes rather than him looking over at our at our place. What does he say this is the best chicken in the pilot. Okay. How'd you? But the same kind of thing you know. Try to try to appreciate those glimmers of things that you do. That you should appreciate try as best as you cab not to focus on again. Particularly miss when. When we're all strong everybody's struggling right now with just keeping it together and. Yeah but there's a Lotta silver linings as well for families and couples that they've had a lot working together. Were trying to. You know family. Events and traditions and just spend time together which the. Best, out on. In a lot of ways. Well thank you so much for sharing. Your personal stories because as we mentioned in the show, that's such a valuable thing because Sarah and I will mention things and and it's just good to hear because especially with people to have your professional backgrounds because relationships take work in their heart and their struggles in parenting is hard and finances and sex, and in that, we really try to make a point of saying that on the show because I think sometimes people listen. They'd be like Oh if I just listened. To the show and do what they say and everything would be perfect and and It's hard and so I think there's a lot of value in the book that you guys were in the stories that you are sharing today. So before we wrap up, is there anything we skipped over or maybe a parting piece of advice that you guys would like to leave with our listeners and then please tell us where we can find you online and then we'll say goodbye. I would say I would say my biggest you know biggest piece of advice is just keep on talking in a bit hard to talk about things. You know just just try to you know do little conversations at a time I. It's a muscle or for a lot of people to be able to talk freely, and if it doesn't feel right in the beginning, just keep on doing it and and build your muscle as a couple and may get a priority to talk about things on you can jokes can find us on our website, which is www dot bullets, dot com, or on facebook and Instagram at the and twitter at Lewis and We do thirsty nine. Happy our facebook live, which we've been doing for some time we're checking. Hiatus at during reruns. Chance. You can find the book in most local bookstores on nine I. Don Barnes goal and. It's on e-p-o-c-h. hardcopy. In Yeah. So anywhere you can find it anywhere. Under fobel have the links to your website in your book in the show notes and on our website at podcast, dot com and eighth using Marcus. Guys so much good luck in Costa Rica. Thanks so much for tuning in to today's show guys as always, the links will be in the podcast description as well as on the show notes on our website at ID podcast dot com, and while you're on our website, we hope you guys check out our free fourteen day. Happy couple challenge. It's a challenge where we send you a daily email for fourteen days with easy doable challenges to help strengthen and improve your relationship, and if honestly just a whole lot of fun to do with your. Partner, it's something new and we think you guys will really enjoy it. So check it out, and while you're on the website, there are tons of free resources as well as more information about our online course spark my relationship where our listeners can get one hundred dollars off. So that out, you can go directly to the course website at spark my relationship dot com slash unlock, and that's where you can get the one hundred dollars off. So thank you guys were tuning in. We'll see you next week.

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