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406: Of Jojo, Vocality, and Bonkers

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406: Of Jojo, Vocality, and Bonkers

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The story lines. Like i said brady was a gradient dumps of work and a lotta One so i'm what's been keeping me extremely busy. Which is which is a good thing because it's good work but it's tough because it's it's keeping me away from following storylines in the nba. I obviously followed the season but just west of uganda share. What we're talking second disney fish by midday on. What's gone on this stuff. So i haven't fallen this season. Two seven and it's it's think it was one of the hottest seasons to follow the this soul much happening and unpredictability. You have no clue what's happened to while i mean in the case of given that you have what's going to happen next quarter so are you you out on yes like what am i playing do you have. I don't have covert the tweet from this. Three me me like alex glow. So it's been following the season but the story lines. I myself over the last forty eight dollars that we spoke and getting on this track with you guys. Obviously you get most of your basketball's from bodies may also slits organism instead of chain at vcu huge spike. In go over that is that is that a check coming in the main line with us all. I was got gun since since. I don't know if you heard this but we need had recently been serbia and he forgot that serbia's most important export joke with the best on but the second biggest export is nikola his favorite nikolai yokich. And we can't talk about. Nickel is a not talk about the mvp race which be mvp in the nba. We've got we've got your kids. Got embiid steph curry. I feel should be that conversation. It's he's a okay okay. Then let's hear do this. Why why why. Why is it talking. What steadies season enough i mean. Yeah storylines with the dnr comeback yokich. This there's one section of one section of fans that say that he his success depends a lot on what dumpster said etc when the average season identity. And that's right. There's absolutely no doubt you cannot take away what those guys did for the championships. Cutty has motored with cements his legacy the largest thing right but at the same time. Now he doesn't have any of that. Debt is dead. Technically head getty obey as far as potential. Maybe this isn't attention. Estimated nightspots in wiseman and bosco. A green is going to be and have that he was coming agree. Yeah i beneath. We need the naked go back and forth on green. You don't even need you for this conversation. But but so that is some data. Something i'd sports. Green has been spectacular in the month of february. I actually i think something had put it up on facebook. And i actually just went on a research. I didn't even know. This was the fact that idealize beans Second in the nba in the early grad vicissitudes behind trae young and for the season he is ahead of the fox and viacom artem. He's number seven number eight. Which is fantastic. And this is a guy who every i mean yes. He's not flashy skoda. i don't think he dense to be his problem is dog like he's one. That's another his his his woke alecky. If that's award is located in makes sense seem as though he's this high school michael jordan. Yeah i mean i think. He's got obstinate. Mayor michael jordan vulgarity. But he does a lot of good stuff on the court then that contact cut he's doing cutting is dropping thirty again. If i'm not mistaken now. I think just gotta defending line almost thirty point six. And he's averaging thirty thirty minutes a game. Which is. I just checked before this podcast. He's he's twenty ethan. The league admits me so for somebody. Who's doing that and perhaps team in ninth position with everybody by the way everybody even now writes off the water completely from the playoffs. And i can see that argument. I'm not here to make an argument for the various making the because they can. We all know with go into these unreliable. Do make predictions on but gobert smeared. Times was but but if these guys sneak into the playoffs and say the seven it see. I think he has alleged tonight. I'm not saying about the amer thinking with it. But it's alleged geese vid. I think wasn't doing this just as asthma. Whic hillary gifford as best record and sixteen man. It's justifiable. I'm doing everything i'm not talking about. All i'm not no no bonkers with ryan on the by not historic season There to see that Vannes the reason he got the. Mvp was because of the Though it wasn't necessarily that he took them to the playoffs. Taking them places above it but if you majority yes yes but the bottle value like he kind of ask this. Because he had the foster double ever since oscar robertson auditor to digress leading quoting and spied. But it's it's not about how much wind just how you sort of what it is. This gopher come back. And let's be honest stephen adams to let him big all the reverse. My let's be honest about it from a significant from significance off into right van. Venue venue big guys is a staple that he runs out of the box out it. It really dilutes that. Hold back on anything but steph curry. I think the vegas courting his getting. I don't know the theme wise. I would say that. Maybe the maybe the the Kc team was a little better By yeah. I don't think they were the same. I'd i just don't have what's your what's your logic I agree i should. I should not steph. Gutty said i. I agree with wrestlers. Create naughtiest Is that nobody gave much of the times had the ball. Most of the time he was doing was going officer s steph because he threw like that what he did everything he could do to make. Sure that that the got the playoffs. He had to do everything they had go out to beat everyone day at do anything that number six in the message not even number eight hundred number seven seed six in the rest on the line for the succeed was very fight away from the ninety by the type and under six the three deemed library. Those those are uncorroborated facts. I have no for lavar. But that's well that's wanna say something that oh okay my disability that nobody gave them a chance. They had to bulk of the scoring. They had to assist other. People gave addresses to motive steph curry the luxury. We like to satisfy the new boss. I do think steph curry. If that's going to get from you you have a video chance of dying. Pass being assist. So i'm not. I'm not even might last this at the beginning of the veto that they would they would do the same unleashing steph on the nba like david best About v. will ride with you however far we can go with you. We are gonna go that far if you go if you don't to be knocking and that's exactly what's happening. Which is i am saying that it's really. It's almost the same as westbrook doing that. Crazy thing in two thousand sixteen not even talking about the numbers. They're starting finding greenie Discuss might think i feel. There's a fundamental difference between the way cutty between gotti season Everybody triple double season instead festival. Both of them are wired. Westbrook is this westbrook is just decides. He wants to he's he it he's just going to. I found a new wind. Old fantastic combatant and i. I just found out this thing about where does it. He's denied people's on that One of the reasons why people are useful fighting is the if they get if you get them defiantly dead. So that's one of the reasons people. They're useful fighting. I did not know this. Actually and pantheon but bulls yup. But that's that is that is great. He's this guy he he wants to get to the end of the game as soon as possible and one hundred percent all the time. Cutting temperament is very different. One of the reasons. Why does that. Maybe it's because of who uses the bus. I'm that's different but it's also because assistant he's played in all these years he ended. He's he has grown. Yes ev- organised system that has trusted meats and he's got some some of the sporting that he needs to do and he's doing that thirty game. I believe if if you extrapolate the numbers. He's actually statistics wise. He's better than his. Mvp season is just the numbers of law. Because of the fact that he's only thirty four minutes again. I have that fact blood but that's what i said but one day i would give you. Is that cutting doesn't need the Diplomats being brought to the game by j galloway explain. But i did the team. The team brought you on to shoot thirty eight percent of the tea party until you get that consistently. I think it's just better to lay off the olympic kevin durant for the warriors ps dumped at stony. She said he said it or somebody asked him right at the beginning of the season. Something about yeah you have to check. The storyline was really bonkers. So so my point. Is that dream on green buildings that density and he gets elected because he doesn't technically scored as much pretty contributes in other ways but back to back to work Jokic i get the kids for jokic. I get the case for and we spend time talking about it right now but another person. I'm i'm quite surprised. People are talking about it. And i'm sure you can back me up on some of this daughter in which it why. Why is because you're should be here this jazz sites but that but that that then in that case. That's the point that that makes donovan. Mitchell skis even stronger right right. No he's he's desperately parts a the festival the jazz opening some incompatible basketball one of the reasons he did not get i feel like he's not gotten much louder does because i think the first photo of dmz struggled pretty badly mistaken. He was not even scoring thirteen points. A game i the. Us shooting twenty percents of the field. I can't remember these figures but he was struggling mightily which consider that Just when he blessed gains a full games is a big jump forgives better but since then he has been villainy really good and he is the best player on the best even the nba. I'm maybe not naked short about. Because he's i think dropping twenty five game in the next five was Nobody's bothering within seventeen. Eighty once again. But there are consistent if any consistent and i think the the the team is what is gelling and that brings me the job. Joe catches a mvp candidate children. In addition to joe catches inertial stats. And he's gone balkars mine car what. I don't know what he did in the off season. What is this. Like amid fifty blinds serbian ford. I can see now. Why is fat because in salvia the like crazy. It's not it's not even funny because a forty super cheap. Saudi started off. I have reduc about this. Would you afford food is a cheaper four people be eight debt and the five dollars and the the salad is like i mean literally like a huge chunk it was. I mean i. I don't blame. I don't blame you anymore. Being bad i said you have to give them all for. Losing weight is despite all age That's that's whole your kids lose it joke. It being ten was such a big soviet and thin. How is that possible. You know this accent. I'm guessing that's the reason why he's getting this much. Love is because of his team playing the reunite the yes the stats are getting. The team is gelling. Read now. I think you can argue that. The case against both embiid enjoy catches there. They've not had too many events against teams mob. I don't have this at the back of my mind. But i think it does plus five hundred The sixers have beaten. maybe two. i'm the nuggets. the numbers again. I just checked were acquired. No yeah yeah so so vicious which is which is should not be knock on them. Because at the end of the of witness i think beneath once on earlier about using this adventure yes quality of its matters but at the end of the day that i think if you're about fifty wins Minutes at the end of the diabetic. You're not to look at what. What are the quarter of or two beaten a whole lot. Matsui drainage it's purely about the numbers. Dan so wins wins. But i just feel that joke is getting the attention because it s of dean is actually an island as and of course. He's doing these occasional flashy things where he's dropping fifty winds said he's got these thirty two doubles. It's a rather case the nord out about her. But i'm still not seeing it as being a super strong case as let's say for let me. That's my only thing. I love the guy joke. And i think he's only going to get better as season is we've seen a if you're his victory over. The last couple of seasons he gets better at visited at. He just begins to understand. It's like this. He's like this machine that adapts to his mid sole well and he gets it. It's it's an incredible to watch. So i gonna get better. I think the case we get struggled. But i just feel that the team's win record discredit lakes. Aware is not everybody conversation whether just yet. I think it's going to get that. I don't think it's just yet that's my. That's my thing our so for this. This mike on document this video that mvp's let's say there is violence. You have to be a success. The only only non successful theme. Mvp is the great russell westbrook odyssey. Hush reviewed at facts. I only. I only talking about factor. Not there's no mitch the citizens right like in the palestinians. There's no other. Mvp that was at sixty six sixteen. So so yes. I mean i think. The nuggets auditing against that. A group thing but i also think off the three or the four began other than steph. Gutty it is yuba jazz. Lebron join mead and and a name. Donald mitchell sample list of the. I think that you'll get to steam value. You'll could just steam is playing integrate. Because i don't think they're playing really good. The second player. Jamal muddy is is shitting bricks. What's the name michael potter. Junior has not played half the season. He's coming off the bench. I don't know why his knock playing him. After they gave up jeremy durant than everybody mike porter junior. I don't understand second. The second best player on the on the nuggets is in order volume. Augments all right. So i i just i don't buy yes. You know the the order to last year and they had this miraculous against the clippers. But you know in that jemaah muddy played out of his mind against the donovan mitchell. The utah jazz cds. But if you look at it right now the rest of the team. He's the really should ask. Compared to the other teams digests team is really good. Everybody's consistent you. Have mike on. Do people give forgetting home using mike on news and mike. Gondolas finally bought into the system and his body into lego. Cam gonna play now. I think maybe for the first year he was like i had this great thing in memphis grizzlies. Now i'm playing But now he's playing getting getting in shape and doing these things. And then you have joa inga's who's a team player can can give you fifteen fifteen seven every anytime you have a blondel's boy on will downward who's a great team players. That really meshed and they've played together. This is pointed Played together for such a long time. That i can definitely see. That theme says been But from the nuggets respected the rest of the team has played absolute brash and so for them to be even winning a disc consistent base. And i think just is. That's why i give him the most valuable player because we're big him out if your donald mitchell out i think still is maybe four five succeed but if you're big yokich out of the art of the nuggets. I just think that they're gonna like not even make the playoffs because they're just playing that back. There's no plan like if you had to become player. Who blues playing good name. But i i would argue that. That's probably why. I think. I think i think the the the difference here is that i do not expect monday. Do i was one of the few people like. Obviously they did the prediction. Also i stand by my words. But i don't feel that what john was doing. The not sustainable was season. I those feelings. Something happened to him. He he went bonkers and But i make maybe for me. Because i had lord expectations of the nuggets. That that for me. I think that's why. I think they're playing well. I agree with you on people in the mike. Boorda should be playing this season but mendes of the team is just a man i. I don't even know how to see an out hats off. I think would sit quite concisely follow it. I think the only problem is if again joke does all these things then as only should get the. Mvp you're not gonna vote for your kids is not the whole point of this. Yeah so that's why. That's why i'm saying so i think that's that's the best venues that if you take your kids out of the completely this. I thought you were talking about how you bought into this nuggets team and you were going to work for them. So it's like a conflicting ideas. these these candidates. My friend is a candidate for these arbitrary. Not backing You'll get funded in who is not. Let me you will fix by the lake Beneath what leading. I mean libron. There's no doubt about lebron. It'll the lakers. Yeah they're not gonna give it to him but he is the mvp. He's themes playing guard. He's playing really good. He's taking the team during the doing everything that's required. Anthony davis for some reason is just costing. I don't want the whole dynamic is but what did they won't green call anti davis out of shape and fact Like him he did not say the words not the worst but someone that is is who was stopped. Who's of leadership. I think everybody can. If anthony davis signed me up for that program. I want to be that kind of ownership six foot out very. I think that. I think more than the news that that's the thing that stuck struck me that there's no sodium nfl I'm very disappointed in anthony davis as an nba fan Then he joined lebron and the reason lebron onboard was because they wanted to win a championship. And the gate right. Now you can it as above seasonal dossiers in whatever the case but they wanted to know chief changes your mindset it that these it's either go to it's either gonna throw you right and boost you auditory at the back like i had said i think he said something called the disease of more or disease of something he had gone. This vendor leakers. Had been offered a couple of judges delivers at one. I generally expected. Anthony davis to boost to end. I answered i don't know any. Lettuce indicted his with a some veteran fans shoot. What's all this wants. Limit on short of deliverance. Been there done that. He knows what it's light. So i'm i'm fine. I think it was one. Of my christmas departments i was expecting the gates in buffalo denied that gad who stalk the easy easy easy easy thirty five kinda guy but i'm very disappointed especially lebron on the other hand like no one's gonna be new solid professional news gastropod fantastic signing the vp. Shula's to that they didn't have anybody to responsibly. Take the ball out of lebron's hand the last The rhonda's modern extent. Instant offense lou. Williams was my pm. Writing more offense at things with ron has been consistency thing. I mean that is that is that is such a thing as playoff on the auditing. Atmos what he did. At the beleaguered seasons ago against the warriors the man audit august when he was with the blues. I think britney seventeen of merdeka remember that. Cia the sensor dame lillard trailblazers four nil and rondo was on the pune. It's that aren't always granted. I think become one of the. I think if if honor decides to become a gorge i think he'd the greatest coaches able is. I don't think so. i think he's gonna get to that. The temperament of the intellect by some fantastic. I mean i think so with all those fantastic signings. This brought onboard. They actually brought up people. Put the ball on the floor. Create the own shots to st anthony. Davis i don't know maybe. Anthony davis is saving himself for the playoffs. Vetted all means something that only thing that could be the case but at what al jonathan service. It's because it's sometimes know it's sad to see because he makes it seem so easy for him in the post outside also and then. He says i don't want to do i. I don't want to put forth forty out. I mean if it's not saving for the blouse ivana what he's his co. exam what he's saying for just one little thing i'm gonna say i am done watching the washington wizards. I thought three games of this and this is the worst basketball. I've seen in my life. I it it's upsetting. It's entirely of setting are externally Demotivating it makes me. Do you not like about what was have giving that given absolutely no effort man that is literally no effort to get. I was watching the game against the hornets one day. And then i'd be caught the ball like i. I mean. I don't know if it's a fair assumption. But you Competitive but you know if you when you bring at the park with the video know how how to play the game and they see look at the ball go and look at the bottom out and somebody else gets all washington telling oh okay mrs nor nor nor absolutely no defensively. Wanting absolutely not defense. That's fine that's a bit little bit of an nba but little effort managed to soul sack. australia guests while you're not alone in that board than noodle another person who or watching that split v. I think i'll take your your to be returned to us so you can played by john. This is what i was. I've been debating all the marcus's. I don't think that badly that great man. He's a good score. But i mean you know good good great players however should your team is able to rally them to some amount of snacking more. How much of missouri five games. I think four games doesn't matter i flew do. It was look bigger that the one thing is the next. Two of those fluke. So you're big so. I assume this up bradley that i am not convinced i that knocked out perform audible goats. You cannot do that. Scotty brooks thing without a the lebron getting lebron. Everything is ridiculous thing these your grades it like a democracy chris. Paul mexico spot. This is a dog bentley. but chris. Paul had an absolute passion of new orleans. And he's just take them consistently into the playoffs very very well and his team is the morning sun. Now it's nice. Yeah van ben ben instead and then he was my my thing with bradley beal is i have a feeling because so many people have been talking about the score the he is what a bad situation is conducive. He had the reserves though. The story line is now in his eight he is. He is almost soul soul but entities is. I think there's something so the the issue is that people are constantly. People are concentrated about about a situation is august. This guy who can drop. He's i think he's fifty An us but like a guy who gets caught he can easily drop though denied he's Incredible is an incredibly sandbox ball player. I think any. I think he can easily win the second championship d. I feel that i generally do. The problem is that he's never been in. That situation is one in anything meaningful and people have been talking about him being in a bad situation law that you know. He's he's now going into this conversation of all my god if he goes into another be on the fortunes around. I'm with of any. I don't necessarily. i don't think he is. I don't think he's a great new. But i think he is definitely a player that can be a second august built on a championship legend. He's a legend. He can put the ball in the bucket Drew clearly said as the games of buckets. He got get buckets. The problem is not of that situation that nobody's ever go to null and that's when the conversation kind of that's what the conversation Bradley actually moved to a situation where he has to do something meaningful everything. He does every bosque. School now is pointless and it has been pointless for the better part of five six years that with Absolutely over longer. No not not really. I mean i think seventeen. They made the western conference. eastern conference. semifinals. Mike barnes one cities with the wallaby as as a main guidance. It okay sabrina. Seventeen brennan saturday greenwich island debut. We've had four seasons blah latest demeaning. What he's doing. Let's let's face it. A young men need but it is just an offense and the fact that he doesn't feel that that is a bubba stool his busting his assets. concede in his body. Language does jif floating around where oshman's said the please motion. He's wide open. The bottle store doesn't come gumbo. Docks says volumes about the offensive position that was possession that was going on. But he's not bothered and this is an radically. Listen to the bad guy to me. I don. I think we can all agree on that. He key again only and loves the king but the situation is just so. I think he gets once he gets out of goes onto a championship. Five what did he signed signed a contract. Money said i want money. I don't want to win the hebrew but this is a big. No so this is i. I i agree with everything that you're saying but still four mins oshawa bada blair. Can you be have four wins. No i i can't think of sean. I am going to get into this. This six minutes minus in from the chicago bulls today the sagoes venebles as the the first on look at the rest of the most passionate absolute trash right and he took them to becoming a contender garden. So i just don't obviously so you're you're right one. What example off the amazing the gleed note and it's not a it's kasich example about the great atlanta hawks who were the number one seed and no not young. Al horford ball this rude boy that orbit very gab and liberal ended what happened lebron neurons. The guest fussy you guys to do team basketball do all in cotija in other words. We're that's fine. It's the same thing what's wrong with that. No there's nothing same thing. I if that that's what you're saying. No but dealers have as she d team this with after what we saw at offered at over offered boardman back. Get kind of why. I think you're giving to less than it. For the hawks i am. This is the same thing is does the same thing that happens in the east one teams will be like. Oh we'll do something. And then in the. I'm gonna give you the hawks. Maybe a bad example. The raptors are a good example. Us how i let know exist. The demand rose. That was that was. That was the city team that kept winning. If you that example of all these are all the. Let's talk about that because Let's keep the in the regular season non not spilled over in an what happened then guess. Lebanon should have like an mba visa. And i m with Deservedly so i mean. I i you. Are you surprised that lebron has become like soul good. I mean he was great. Nobody could have thought i saw walkie would be doing. The slant magazine is plus as idiot or the slam cup. The that he came up with the white brazil Please then that males one not those those novi. Anybody ever thought that he was going to get get to the stage. I don't think anybody you this story. I think people still underestimated. Yes i the funny part. I was thinking the other days. Like guys let gov metal knee like amid prevents death who are phenomenal phenomenal scores. That deal they seem so small Lebrun has every time you have to combat kevin durant. Lebron like kevin durant looks so small but given the right in the most. Like unstoppable officers. That i've a student that's all good liberal on is a i mean it's crazy. I fund liberal in fact against the numbers. Nice so before you that before before that. Yeah i just wanted to remind people that Dunkin and dispose completely destroyed the best lebron fame one completely off. Okay the fun this so in the nba lebron Career averages twenty seven seven seven point seven won't seven assists but in his entire life he has never had this exact scored late. He's never advocated points seven months and seven assists in a game that i that i would have been. I'm sure that if he if he hears it the next game go into and seven hundred. Twenty seven seven six. He's come very close to four percents but never has he had twenty seven seven seven. And i think the recent game against the pundit is he was very close to it when i had six points and assists state we want. So that's edison expert. This stuff really go off the mvp docked but percent who taught would definitely be you know mvp vp gave him. He gave him the been on. Luke don't get everyone say. Everyone said that he is going to win then. Yeah you're going to be the auto biggest. i think. launch second-best odds from other nick not the best odds before the season's best arts he had the best art for the he's let's vide- great a. He's had a pretty easy because bend expectations so high. I'm sort of like because last year. He did butter rookie season. And we're like okay. This guy is now going to be the next lebron. He can get one with the best people can assist out of his head. He can shoot the ball out of the gym and everything. All stephen The bonds everything has been down for this year. The team is also doing that. Great i think is more disappointing than by inset Having great numbers vinnie this a huge fan of luca since he came into the i. Jonathan feels about who cannot get to not being as it. Because i think it was on him would be probably the doctor disappointments of the season about from how to go to visit games. Mike my response to anybody who thinks onto is not that great as is fucking guarantee one. He's twenty one he did it. The last as New these was unprecedented. This this that is liberal. Lebron dunk at qualitative. Jim dunkin give credit to lebron. Jim duncan let's lebron east. I don't understand why these people come community sweep lebron's lebanon is fricking legend. There is no doubt about anybody who says anything. Stupid bottlenecks cooper not. Gardening is disturbance turbulent. But but but to do that in the west which was lording is unprecedented in my. So he's i think he's not having a good season but he's not having a shitty season either he's sticking out and i do. Apple is understand that he's a young kid who whether we go no his festival. He's not made himself as a real liberties public as most of the other. Public savvy know stocks jaanus but example has come he he makes himself available bubbling with social media. China's nobody really knows will move on onto other than other than some of the mavericks incited. So you don't know how he's wired. So i wonder five get anybody convincingly say say that didn't know how he is reacting to all this information he's getting from social media doesn't follow social media for example does he the these lines are. They impacting him. What does he keep them set for march if he's isolating himself from it he's having this guy season indentity can have another conversation we can. I would be forgotten. But if he's consuming this stuff and he's got all these expectations. We have no clue always reacting to them and let's face it. This is not his country right. he's not american. Unlike a lot of the lot of the young players were idiot. Lightning nude females who Who came to the. Us studied while he added garbage. And then kim. By day experience the culture think. I think the one of the big sample tip comes to mind. Is the jets. The guy who drafted by the detroit pistons. I forget his name. Dot doc melissa. Jr i'm an idiot. Eighty phenomenon in europe and he came and he completely disintegrated viki added examples a sixty as a sixteen year. He went overboard. Jason kidd in the olympic finance. He came to the league seventeen eighteen. he's not had a great career. He's had a good. It's a solid good young. He's a great second often. Find god for the championship team. But he's not going to eat will be. We all thought it was going to be. So i think i think the i think that in general people agreeing We had this season is going is unfit. He's not having a good day season. Which is which can be tropical adjustment. Said you pull up making. Let's not forget that. I think you guys only spoke about it in one of your part cousins nick. How it was. I think delivered five to eight years. Avoid was offered to suggestion not defense. Adjust much right and because you have this because it's become the layup scandal. Gm people adjusted. Let's go nuclear the fences that apply. You know that and that would be my next point. They know that dante's is the focus of attention on the mavericks. So let's adjust their defensive nature. He doesn't score. Get us as little as half of the back of the game. As and forget about the rest of the people who as it's going on the it s Who who who who. What happened was this. I'm getting again. The mass look at alleged poisoning the straight august. Cuban something that others will that maybe that has some potential to this younger he that is more headphone the mavericks this not not to take away the sponsored from donte. I think he deserves that responsibility. If you the unfortunate thing of unfortunate the downside of being that great so young is that europe guided that expectation. The next do that expectation. So i feel though slack is unfit. I definitely don't think he's an wait. Roster in uganda decision i don't think he's And he doesn't deserve to be but let's also goal been a spate the mavericks really crappy demanded. I think the deep as best seven The gave me new good set guardian altogether in after. That's my dad. The games that getty mad ashes. So stupid i. That's that's a story. I would like to lead the i wanted the story Leaving the mavericks. That doesn't set like the son-in-law dockers i think as an nba style. If you wanna be a star you. The ubiquitous wants beautiful. What's happening for your leg. That just said about how stars actually make the. It's just a fat but let's also face it jodi unique boarding and unless some big steps are georgia. I would say for that seat. In that game i think mavs and warriors are pretty some little de one transcendent star and everyone else's just got to do their job. I think that would dream on grain hundred little bit more than focus because he is doing what porzingis some giving some help contribute. I've got a game out. I think that's the best our best we'd bet he shouts defense and passes the ball to the right right right. But because steph curry is also of those people who are the offenses defenses have been seeing for five years. They know exactly what's happening steph. Curry said like he's going to go. Fake as if he's not gonna come off of screens and the defenses have not been able to adjust to it so i think a little bit of that has to that. Responsibility has to go to luke. That maybe he's not done his own because he's shooting like worse than the best sleep done anytime you're shooting. Whether from any point you need to know that this and strengthening was a dozen Beer this something you need something. That sounds some sort of issue with you. And not like he has a great shooting accident. European guy so he. He was born like they taught him how to shoot first and then out of one and like some somewhere. I mean one thing that i noticed. Was you know when you get into the leaky. He was clean. There was no tattoos on his arm. And now he's all covered. That is become a different sarah. He's americanized all the indian. Uncle is year the indian on l. I thought invalidating all my points. But anyway i think i don't know possible that you know. He has forgotten all the great european thinks that made him great. He said that it's easier to score in the nba and especially compared to form leaks euro basket where they have zone desert guy always under the basket. So it's not like you can always go up and he killed it. As a teen is a sixteen year old. He was killing it in that system. So some something has wrong. I'm not saying that you know the obviously we saying the same thing audience because obviously it's not like the baskets jaanus every i'd be happy you say the same thing audience that he's he's become a liability and he draws forty cent price but we talk about one jumper at the end but again with the also made at issue is that he has not learned how to have a reliable sixteen for which can use pull out by. Maybe it's because his hands as long whatever he's not he's not seeing any difference from honest years ago to now he still struggles and this year. He's struggling more of the house. So that all our all our feedback loop is only a doctor's next year get you're going to say that. Oh my god we we always believed in but this is absolutely shocking ball and yes somewhere i agree. That mavs are absolutely horrible and absolutely. I think that's probably the happiest guy. Because everyone has voted that he was an all star he was supposed to be that many of the next given dylan exact signed him and he is. He's his absent does Sorta music stadiums remarkable that anyway but listen. The thing is the thing is i wanted. I wanted talk about the aged tonight. So i was looking at certain ages. Grits i was. I just want to out after that. It's done see. I think i think the reason why i'm saying this goes that he's twenty one nv should cut him slack. He is still very young. But you know in the mavericks have there. Was this flawed in. Bonn german player. Who came never played He never even played in the water. Utah leagues he was a. He played the gentleman. Second limited else for menu mention those people know and he gave it as a twenty year ordered and by age. Twenty one to this taking the mavs to the playoffs and getting give by another twenty one euro dunker right. I know who was not being useful ends. How did i get that if knuckle this could this disputing factor keeping that given that in context. I do agree that he's really young. But that are that is president of grace. I tell you why. Because he's been playing basketball since sixteen. yes yes. He's the grown s meg. Akio league i don't i not now but we have agreed that his his immature but they're just one four games in at all so you know maybe he's just adjusting so i think it's still elite new who toured daunted. It's under the bus. Because he is. He has always proven that he's great. He's always deliberated. Just give him some more if he stopped being throwing people under the bus talk. Radio in the car is split his not. Give us any games nassau award before almost. He's almost the same number of games. One lake steph. Cut his waters. So i don't think that's pretty close. It's pretty gross. My only mile eating. Is that fed enough. Okay let's let's let's let's take the instinct I will give you further. I disagree there. But i will give you the benefit of doubt that he's been playing for a very long and he's been playing with grown men Anyone is anyone. Don chituwo albany. Grinning firewood Because in basketball goes So law. But it's i still. I still want to give credit to the adjustment. Franklin this debt is nobody else on the mavericks that dixie attention away from the defenses. Right now i mean is is as border skoda. Goede as greenies because you brought that example. I split us quota as he is defensive still have to adjust agree because they have no clue what he's gonna do with the ball like winter on green has the ball in his hands except for scoring. The man is a genius. They did in terms of well. Well it a fact. It is a fact in ubon who average one. You don't have this twelve game genius at the ball in your head. It's lead if you have to border steph curry who is the best shooter of arkley dumps talking about. I'm talking about the month of february. Twenty twenty one month of february twenty twenty one issue avenue twelve assists in the western conference which is which we asked. The all via has gotten far. Tougher is extremely lawyers. Who average twelve assists again can not be a genius with the ball except for scoring. And i made that point we give this game except let's go to beat the as we've looked at the couple of a couple of obeef a couple of weeks away the heat under the smock. Somebody somebody voted. The smartest tumbled in the history of the nba. Something oh yeah. I want the three point. He thought he would get. They're like oh who's who is one of the defenses in that situation. Want the board voted. They want because they don't care. They don't have to foul him. If it wasn't an immediate his hands they have to follow up live. So but that being said i ve very least. He needs attention off steph. Got when he moves. He's not this. Bill that stands in one place and bosses let you in the android mix with the big name escalating who literally just stack block. Fat guys yeah. This nearly huge guy. He was six five three hundred bounds. Bobby heavier than jacqueline kennedy. The brother of whether the brother of mark's feeling he was lied to me. But i don't know the likely to work stays. He would do this thing where you just go blank himself. Right between low post hype not even logos argument. I perceive blunkett's you the standard sison. He saw a bigger gun moved him and he would shoot boss. Then he'd like five six assists a game awful as that's antoinette. It's feet wallin. It's fun as been dry. Dry him a dachshund yacht Cut so greens not all commodities. He digs the attention. And that's one of the reasons why people are upset Because you need that attention off cutting now cutting transcended that even if you give him all the attention he's gonna find a way to bunch is not bought in yet. I don't think he is. I need to give if you're if you've got that possessions in again. I'm martha player pretty high base. How who is taking identify of off dodgers not scared of anybody on the minds at melbourne so fettered. If he's young he's he's he's not but who often the mavericks i think policy could play the mavericks. Eman and disabilities said he will keep the daunted all five lows of. Let's figure the mavericks. The madison student only managed by denver arms and and this is a knock on putting a team around him. Percents seat anyway. Maybe we've talked about the steph. Got even talked about your kids. Embiid janice no not lebron bessbrook and other people's adnew we need to they all have in common. Yes exactly you're right. They're all all-stars. So we are going to segue into the all-star game this Supposed to happen they they had they shed your whole thing. What's going in. Johnston island want benaroya all-star team but also should they have in that make sense to give us an insight about what you thinking as i think they all seconds of business decision not i think it is abe. Is this decision right. it's i think. I think i believe this ball came out a statement. Says it all right. He's the all star game is not a player's decision. It is the decision of the management of the awful league and as players. We have to find a way to have the These but we have to have that conversation and seaman the look on the players who have come out in opposition of the all star game happy one is of course the the most media defending is whether it's a liberal on whether it is jaanus obviously the big stars and then he asked the folks who made his comments now. It's easy for the. Just be that. I think this conversation to be had on meal charter. The nba one of the What one of the decisions we had which venture is like lord of this pandemic conversation around the business of nba has largely been front ended on the media on. The media's front ended on the on the negotiation uber but on the media. It's been front ended. The conversation has been factored by those dolphin clears layers on sitting on one hundred and fifty two hundred million dollar contracts lebron's very close to becoming a billionaire. It's easy for these people to say. Hey man we should not have. It's a deming valid points. Should you have an all star. Game trivial garnered independent doubtful because the. Us fucking humphries just struggling with bendon but it is a business decision document impact. Most of all the people in the middle of the back force in terms of silent effect. That that what what would what would we could call the class. And because the nba lost one point five billion dollars last year right. I think this is a number. That's been bubbly that most likely the most likely to lose money this year. But they just don't and we don't know the reason why we don't know what that is is because we still don't know how they're adjusting avoid things behind the scenes that we don't have gone issues that are going on between donald sports and adamson vo and so forth but you have to look at the allstate as a business decision. I get that these players are concerned about safety. But let me say this. Which was the first league in the woods to complete a season with zito over it. Positive gourds a the so if anybody can pull off an all star game it's the nba right addenda. People that good pelota massive debt people who confidently boil off actually saw three people who three weeks that can pull off a massive event now. The ufc has players per bugging literally. Officer interdict god Sixteen years the nba. That played competed season. I can't even remember. The number of games was one hundred keeps intruding on it and fifty gives us something to that. They completed the season in a bubble and then shot to india. The i-i-in right. This is because i actually was spotted. The organizing you follow the idea from the sports teams and he was. He was giving me five percent liquor. Somebody of the arrangements made degree in the bubble blew my mind. Like i m my brain's falling of yours because it was so complex this five minutes this abiding thing a massive documented about going on. So is that if there is at least you can trust. Run this run this game vidadi issues. It's the nba you bet on the nba for doing. It's business decision. I feel i feel the should happen but it needs to happen under the dismayed good protocols from from watching the envy of last season. I don't think anybody anybody's Deportable as than dnv. You could mess with some extent with david strength because it would have a conversation. Then you blend estimate what about is i. Don't fuck without you. Know so. I i think they should have I think it should happen. Under protocols vet i feel myopia diverse from some of the list. Is that clause in the contract. The mvp the i think it's a cv which talks about the ad mandatory participation right because that is where we added unique and much of the you have to overlook or you have to look at every contractor. Sign if you're not looking at contracts anyway you had an asshole so i think that that part. That clause should be back. Because i believe if you bought attended you are actually not injured. Then you stand standard face a fine. Maybe then if if somebody but gosh maybe. But i don't think is right to find the because it is the choice if their fees and it's just the player it's about the players family's safety so a play missin. No but he or she especially after the success of the presidential Because he or she's making a bus ner decision and then one last thing i'll say is i. I'm i'm in agreement with lebron on the whole night because the last season on longer than expected the next this season stafford nee quicker than we expected. They were really looking forward to that five dignity. Which so that i i agree with mr james but then again which brings me back to my earlier. One if somebody wants to take that five this would this season day have the pandemic. It's possible weekend one of the nba as you look at the the that happened multiple cases where they've done things one of the. Let's let's not. Let's not bring macaroni spoken to this non anonymous but the the legendary crisp the little. It was a lot of nap. Nobody's talking everybody's talking about it but will be so. My point is if he can do this as you give. Happy odds study. Give a choice of the players to perform. And if they don't want to make adjustments twit artemis the chat instead is that if all the stars decided to sit out then is it even sponsors erected Put money in the all star because there is a limit on other yada yada is going to be Not going to be there. I knew this have a bunch of say not a+ players but Veep lesbians dan zippy little whether you went icy think it is but i sure happened but they should figure we look at laws the about attendance. That's that's my opinion. It's a business decision all of the opinions that any human being could ever have think i'm beautiful. Your see i wanna see. The thing is the way i look at you guys you are. I look at you waters. The fan. i don't is as much as i understand icy. He's got a business inadequate fire. I'm curious you guys the way you guys are looking at this like what. What is your me for me. It's very it's this is not the same bubble that were in last. The players are not isolated. They're out in the so then. You have to understand that i mean how many events are the time i do you really want. I agree with diamond. I'd never thought about the smart thing getting less. It's unfair because these are not the same dogs. Invest signed the entry civic. They have to have some sort of justification for that. I mean they've already lost one and a half billion last year like how does it matter if there was little bit more just to make sure because the nba from the beginning. I like after since they've consistently saying that we want to be one. We don't want things to happen. We don't want people mixing aspects us. We don't want because we want the players to be safe. If somebody like you said at the beginning durant take the intention there was. Let's not get an infected on uninfected people which is an initiative rob but then a one part that is also do not have unnecessary clubs make the letting fans in stadiums as for the same reason the doing all these mandatory takes everything is for one reason and then suddenly you're like okay now everybody come together for the sake. It doesn't make sense to me. That's it as a fan. The all star game last year. What happened optical beams dead then then they believe really great matt so we're sorted mostly looking only for that competition the living in a little bit of time so i i'm not i'm kind of okay with even if they don't have the all star game i'm i'm as a fan. I'm okay with it. Because i want to get to the game still one day. I am not even sure they'd be that much that invested in. I'm but i'm kind of as a fan. I'm okay with the not having your second this year. Of course vinnie. They beat respond to something. That is not as a as a response but so i. i don't know that it is. I think the olympic has athletic got access to and maybe obligation formation but about any debt is even a three or four day protocol to be followed before the all star game and there are a lot of the events that are happening around the all star game then. Aren't you ensure that this the debt. They're not even sure at this time with audiences of spectators. That's because i think. The atlanta hawks doubts technically supposed to be happening in atlanta But there's no information. I think the halted allowing Thousand fans per game right. So the notion that they're going to allow spectators Testing has gotten to boat super super crazy night in the sense. It's gotten very scott not specific as possible. You have desks in. It's been tested. Though the we have evolved the science behind has evolved so if they can put your writer in this case all the players are not in a bubble. They're all gonna come from different cities. But the i believe the former that the following if they have it would stretch is to bring all the players. I the way they started the publishers. Just isolate them them. And then execute the what. I believe this is the is the i kind of senator guy though in be the us is seated on the athletics while the jordan. And do this but believe what we talked. Yeah i mean. I think that thoughts osama i think that nobody's the fine print So ben is always emotions. Get the get the best Everybody thinks that all-star game he'll be she says it's just too much of emotions that i did and you're right died in any any league that can execute a decent game of Off any sport is probably the nba. And i did lead some stuff about it and you know i think the david follow all the protocols like you know lebron's kind of bitchy about it He's probably he's probably gotten the most out of the sport and he. I think he could have handed it in a much better than seeing a slap on out phase year. Enough alarmed him on him. Being thankful blake some kind of emotion. I know i just. I think that that was the off. The all sponsors that lebron has united probably was responsible Into something that he clearly knows is a business decision and he has been on the end of all these That he has gotten whatever you wanted. Whatever price he wants who. Whatever the fucking warrants. So it's just a distinct spider him And for the rest you know. I think Most of the before we get to go the odds star game oughta oughta fucking million. So i doesn't do a matter. These guys mcneil. They don't get fine doesn't matter if they wanted to be. Add these cortex and and so you know even this argument that people have all that like you said like middle class status. It doesn't affect them because aren't even gonna get into the odds so it doesn't matter no so so might sponsor that is it's not. It's not about the money that the all this stuff Effecting the money that the all star will be basis basis Basketball nudity gorge Affect the end of end of season will cut that they get from the basketball related company. The lesson the bus order limiting gum so any impact on the sponsorship that will happen with what is via. I if the if this is something that we don't know how it was going to play that game with with with the people that are being the nba in this particularly don us. The big city unite. Which is the grenfell billion contract for the dvd nights. So now the conversation is that if you don't have the second one of the things Ingesting said if you don't have the all star game then we'll probably. The nba might compensate bill by having more nationally televised games night but then darwin impact at each wrecks that they have because of Exclusive again. that's where you don't see something games on national d. In the us and national tv this is espn stuff so So that's what it backs the middle class. I agree that has a lot of than use the money. But i also feel like and this is where he went out of the i feel that for somebody at the level of lebron to say what he did and i think i think i'm done with little stupid on sister the in view Because you didn't make the first time he's done he's done at mark debris binds before i think even did it at the start of the pandemic if it on mistaken where he said it as if nine fucking and you don't remember that stuff hey and he's done this historically in his career now one. I does one group of people that say. This is lebron playing the media which is possible. You don't let's not. Let's give him the benefit of the dog. Maybe he's dot freaking smart. And has that kind of an idea ladies. Like if i'm gonna say the. If i'm gonna give you the bbc version of things then maybe wrote about it if i said something as is per walker davis slap in the face and especially with races of being such a big deal in the us is like a slap a black man facing it. People looking to set needs emotion right so but if he said it out of ward this organization. that's a stupid answer and liberal motion. melvin So i just feel that those conversations should go more with people that were news. liberal losing amount lebron using one million verses said lebron who makes forty million euro liberals losing one million was somebody who makes five million. Losing one million is a massive difference. So i think the the problem is media are going to cover. Though obedience of somebody was running five million. Because he's going to shut up and wants to and his money. He wants to feed his family. He and what is reasons might beach meet as always gonna follow the big story line so i just feel that this is It's it's blown article poison. I generally do Data sports events happening all over the word absolutely successfully within bubbles so nobody can category. You mean the i e that jonathan. This is not possible. That's a stupid stephen But can we have it. In a way that keeps all parties interested parties the indian the players the nba and even the sponsors and the fans you have to consider all four sides. And i genuinely truly believe if this through and read enough of smart people at the table Including state of michelle vets kris That smart people that beamer to figure out a solution wet all ford western parties get usage. It's impossible that we don't. I think we need that. I would think about just before this barca said as a human race. We have this ability to find solutions. You're back into the gone and this is a back back into the that can be have. The game on. Octopus is good in factor is going to impact finances. Can we find the solution. And i think again. I think they should ask the guys. Get bit. Large broussais okay. Whatever in the light. You give back in saturday's your something like that. Nc who play star game that this is obviously this is what bothers may not be innovative solutions to problems that we didn't know we had lovie less talk for and Judoka give inside if you can don't know if your work is covered by lot of as much. What exactly are you working on right now. Is that possible for you to give i so. I'm actually doing two things right now. I'm actually working with a company. Goes joe dot com. And if you've got people who are viewing would invested in what's dot vari doesn't need doing is streamlining the process of hiding in this industrial india. I think mostly now if you wanna get a job in this wasn't There's only one week. Which is you tied a podcast. That that's definitely looking absolutely but the the you find the job linden and apply or you actually something. This was industrial Joe is doing is through a proprietary process. They are actually streamlining that brussels. So you'll go through So i'm actually doing a lot of content for them. I'm not working. I'm not officially an employee. With but a lot of insolvency it started by shop minded guy juicy nuance and who's pretty much been at. The top of all marketing media is the. He's headed ma making opting he's done. Bcci he's been at the time. Do you guys remember. There was a legendary cricket at chemo. The nike without web. Your blinker the buses. You'd remember that young. So so that that what she needs. Add by the lake. Chini was head of marketing was was the very shop guys when he started this busy gap in the market so i do content consultancy for that I do some writing worked for fan code. Which i'm sure you guys already starting to become. The netflix is aiming to become the knicks sports light. Sports globally is with the market And then as usual continuing to look for funding and dr bunch of people fall by illegal basketball to me. I think greg brady has given me some space and sometime most focused on it So that's the focus. That's what's keeping me busy. I don't bother talking about this doing basketball llamas. And then we met for the nba game on so that you don't like his back basketball baba's get back but we need to bring him back to civilization. Now he is by then he. Laughing stuff for stuff for nonprofit is he. Doesn't okay absolute dennis dennis about me. Achieving whatever whatever baba's anything but money anything baggage just have a loincloth. that's v v will be okay. I mean that that's all time that is for this episode of this episode. I six six. I forgot we had six. You had an episode last week and it got do technical issues and i was sad. Maybe hope that it will not happen but every season one episode which will be accorded will come. So you've talked to that. Thank you for joining us. Viewers like ships. Great bird follow and do all those things. But a yami. also for the league's on his. I i lived that sport. If you guys listen to us that you might be interested in. Maybe having activated sports. So maybe he'll get bob become number one fan of anything. Sports need say by all right. Bye bye bye. Guys thanks jonathan.

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406: Of Jojo, Vocality, and Bonkers

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406: Of Jojo, Vocality, and Bonkers

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It's hard me to relate to people who said that it was duffy over them on my heart. My heart goes them but not in the battery. I just got empathize with it. And i do what i do realize. That was was a tough year for a lot of people but fortunately me Was a fantastic year. Hoping for one is better than maybe twenty nineteen was really should be for you. Let's let's put. It is relative to nineteen related. Ray ready was well. Imagine how background agent and nineteen pandemic is like. This is the best year. I have absolutely. No bishop. carrillo is like while the best food black. No offense all the real. Was this just seeing the industry district. I think little bit politically. Correct mrs van. I don't what's going on the carello become of me. Not you go up. North of i have been falling the nba. This year will be not much nationally mode of the phone. also yes. that's a slight you hundred messages through. There is no national basketball. You for nothing just waiting for the fiba cup qualifiers so i i have been following the season. I just haven't been following. The story lines. Like i said brady was a gradient dumps of work and a lotta One so i'm what's been keeping me extremely busy. Which is which is a good thing because it's good work but it's tough because it's it's keeping me away from following storylines in the nba. I obviously followed the season but just west of uganda share. What we're talking second disney fish by midday on. What's gone on this stuff. So i haven't fallen this season. Two seven and it's it's think it was one of the hottest seasons to follow this soul much happening and unpredictability. You have no clue what's happened to while the quite i mean in the case of given that you have what's going to happen next quarter so are you you out on yes like what am i playing do you have. I don't have covert the tweet from this. Three me me like alex glow. So it's been following the season but the story lines. I myself over the last forty eight dollars that we spoke and getting on this track with you guys. Obviously you get most of your basketball's from bodies may also slits autism instead of dc at vcu huge spike. In go over that is that is that a check coming in the main line with us all. I was got gun since since. I don't know if you heard this but we need had recently been serbia and he forgot that serbia's most important export joke with the best on but the second biggest export is nikola his favorite nikolai yokich. And we can't talk about. Nickel is a not talk about the mvp ace which be mvp in the nba. This season we've got. We've got your kids. Got embiid steph curry. I feel should be that conversation. It's he's a okay okay. Let's hear do this. Why why why. Why is it talking. What steadies season enough i mean. Yeah storylines with the dnr comeback yokich. This there's one section of one section of fans that say that he his success depends a lot on what flom said etc when the average season identity. And that's right. There's absolutely no doubt you cannot take away what those guys did for the championships. Cutty has motored with cements. His legacy the largest thing right but at the same time now he doesn't have any of that. Debt is dead technically head getty as far as potential. Maybe attention estimated. He's got some bright spots in wiseman and bosco. A green is to have that he was coming agree. Yeah i beneath. We need the naked go back and forth on green. You don't even need you for this conversation. But but so that is some data. Something i'd sports. Green has been spectacular in the month of february. I actually i think something had put it up on facebook. And i actually just went on a research. I didn't even know. This was the fact that idealize beans a second in the nba in the early grad vicissitudes behind trae. Young and for the season he is ahead of the fox and viacom artem. He's number seven number eight eighty which is fantastic and this is a guy who every i mean. Yes he's not flashy skoda. And i don't think he dense to be his problem is dog like he's one. That's another his his his locality. If that's award is located in makes sense seem as though he's this high school michael jordan. Yeah i mean i think. He's got obstinate. Mayor michael jordan vulgarity. But he does a lot of good stuff on the court then that contact cut he's doing cutting is dropping putty again. If i'm not mistaken now. I think just defending one almost thirty point six. And he's averaging thirty thirty four minutes a game. Which is i just checked before this podcast. He's he's twenty. Ethan in the league admits me so for somebody. Who's doing that and perhaps team in ninth position with everybody by the way everybody even now the wadi completely making and i can see that argument. I'm not here to make an argument for the making the because they can. We all know with go into these unreliable to make predictions on but gobert smeared. Times was but if these guys sneak into the playoffs and say the seven c. I think he has alleged tonight. I'm not saying about the amer thinking with it. But it's alleged geese vid. I think wasn't doing this. Just as asthma whic heroic effort as best record and sixteen man. It's justifiable. I'm doing everything i'm not talking about. All i'm not no no bonkers with via on the by not historic season There to see that Vannes the reason he got the. Mvp was because of the Though it wasn't necessarily that he took them to the playoffs. Taking them places above it but if you majority yes yes but the bottle value like he kind of ask this. Because he had the foster double ever since oscar robertson auditor the leading quoting and spied. But it's it's not about how much wind just how you sort of what it is. This gopher hugo and let's be honest. Stephen adams to let him big all the reverse. My let's be honest about it from a significant from significance off a predominant van venue venue. Big guys is a staple that he runs out of the box out and i it really dilutes that. Hold back on anything but steph curry. I think the vegas scoring his getting. I don't know the theme wise. I would say that. Maybe the maybe the the Kc team was a little better By yeah. I don't think they were the same. I'd i just don't have what's your what's your logic i i agree i should. I should not steph. Gutty said i. I agree with wrestlers create nautica. Cb simply is that. Nobody gave much of the times. Westbrook had the ball. Most of the time he was doing was scoring officer s steph. Because he threw like that what he did everything he could do to make sure that that the got the playoffs. He had to do everything they had go out to beat everyone day at do anything that number six in the message not even number eight hundred number seven seed six in the rest on the line for the sixteen was very fight away from the ninety by the type and under six the three deemed library. Those those are uncorroborated facts. I have no for lavar. But that's well that's wanna say something that oh okay my disability that nobody gave them a chance. They had to bulk of the scoring. They had to assist other people. Who gave addresses to motive steph curry as the luxury. We like to satisfy the new boss. I do think steph curry. If that's going to get from you you have a video chance of dot pass being assist. So i'm not. I'm not even might last this at the beginning of the veto that they would. They would do the same unleashing steph on the nba like david rookie. about v. will ride with you however far we can go with you. We are gonna go that far if you go if you don't be knocking and that's exactly what's happening. Which is i am saying that it's really. It's almost the same as westbrook doing that. Crazy thing in two thousand sixteen not even talking about the numbers. They're starting finding grigny Discuss might think there's a fundamental difference between the way cutty bubba gotti season Mvp triple double season is festival. Both of them are wired. Book is this westbrook is we'll just decides he wants to. He's he it he's just going to. I found a new wind. Old fantastic combatant and i. I just found out this thing about where does it. He's denied people's on that One of the reasons why people are useful fighting is the if they get if you get them leverage defiantly dead so that's one of the reasons people they're useful fighting. I did not know this. Actually and pantheon but bulls yup. But that's that is that is great. He's this guy he he wants to get to the end of the game as soon as possible and one hundred percent all the time. Cutting temperament is very different. One of the reasons. Why does that. Maybe it's because of who uses the bus. I'm that's different but it's also because assistant he's played in all these years he ended. He's he has grown. Yes ev- organised system that has trusted meats and he's got some some of the sporting that he needs to do and he's doing that thirty game. I believe if if you extrapolate the numbers. He's actually statistics wise. He's better than his booby season. It's just the numbers of low because of the fact that he's only thirty four minutes again. I have that fact blood. But that's what i said but one day i would give you is that cutting doesn't need the Being brought to the game by j one. Kelly where they explain. But i did the team. The team brought you on to shoot thirty eight percents of the tea party until you get there consistently. I think it's just better off. The olympic kevin durant for the warriors know dump at stony. She said he said it or somebody asked him right at the beginning of the season. Something about yeah you have to check. The storyline was really bonkers. So so my point. Is that dream on green buildings that density and he gets elected because he doesn't technically scored as much pretty contributes in other ways but back to back to work Joking i get the kids for jokic. I get the case for and we spend time talking about it right now but another person. I'm i'm quite surprised. People are talking about it. And i'm sure you can back me up on some level this daughter in which it why. Why is because you should be here this jazz sites but that but that that then in that case. That's the point that that makes donovan. Mitchell skis even stronger right right. No he's desperately parts a the festival the jazz opening some incompatible basketball one of the reasons he did not get i feel like he's not gotten much louder does because i think the first photo of dmz struggled From mistaken he was not even scoring thirteen points. A game i the. Us shooting twenty percents of the field. I can't remember these figures but he was struggling mightily which consider that Just when he blessed gains a full games is a big jump for gives but since then he has been villainy really good and he is the best player on the best even the nba. I'm maybe not naked short about. Because he's i think dropping twenty five game and the next fight was Nobody's bothering within seventeen eighty once again. But they're all consistent if any consistent. And i think the the the team is what is gelling and that brings me the job. Joe catches a. Mvp candidate children. In addition to joe catches inertial stats. And he's gone balkars mine car what. I don't know what he did in the off season. What is this. Like amid fifty blinds serbian ford. I can see now. Why is fat because salvia the like crazy. It's not it's not even funny because a forty super cheap. Saudi started off. I have reduc about this. Would you afford food is a cheaper four people be eight debt and the five dollars and the the salad is like i mean literally like a huge chunk it was. I mean i. I don't blame. I don't blame you anymore. Being bad i you have to give him all for. Losing weight is despite all age That's that's whole your kids lose it joke it being such a big soviet and thin. How is that possible. You know this accent. I'm guessing that's the reason why he's getting this much. Love is because of his team playing the reunite the yes the stats are getting. The team is gelling. Read now. I think you can argue that. The case against both embiid enjoy pitches there. They've not had too many events against teams mob. I don't have this at the back of my mind. But i think it does plus five hundred The sixers have beaten. maybe two. I'm the nuggets With the numbers. Again i just checked were acquired. No yeah yeah so so vicious which is which is not a knock on them. Because at the end of the of witness i think beneath once on earlier about using this adventure yes quality of its matters but at the end of the day that i think if you're about fifty wins if teams at the end of the diabetic. You're not to look at what. What are the quarter devoted Beaten a whole lot matsui drainage. It's purely about the numbers. Dan so wins wins. But i just feel that joke is getting the attention because it s of dean is actually an island as and of course he's doing these occasion flashy things where he's dropping fifty winds said he's got these thirty tipper doubles eat. It's a rather case the nord out about her. But i'm still not seeing it as being a super strong case as let's say for let me That's my only thing. I love the guy joke. And i think he's only going to get better as season is we've seen a if you're his victory over. The last couple of seasons he gets better at visited at. He just begins to understand. It's like this. He's like this machine that adapts to his mid sole well and he gets it. It's it's an incredible to watch. So i gonna get better. I think the case we get struggled. But i just feel that the team's win record discredit lakes. Aware is not everybody conversation whether just yet. I think it's going to get that. I don't think it's just yet that's my. That's my thing our so for this. This mike on document this video that mvp's let's say there is violence. You have to be a success. The only only non successful the mvp is the great russell westbrook odyssey that it should be the detrimental facts i only. I only talking about factor. Not there's no has the citizens right like in the past ten years there's no other. Mvp that was at sixty six sixteen. So so yes. I mean i think. The nuggets auditing against that is a group thing but i also think that off the three or the four began to other than steph gutty it is the yuba jazz lebron join mead and and a name donald mitchell example is the. I think that you'll get to steam value. You'll could just team is playing integrate. Because i don't think they're playing really good. The second player. Jamal muddy is is shitting bricks. What's the name michael potter. Junior has not played half the season. He's coming off the bench. I don't know why his knock playing him. After they gave up jeremy durant than everybody. Mike report junior. I don't understand second. The second best player on the on the nuggets is an order. Augments all right. So i i just i don't buy yes. You know the the order to last year and they have this miraculous against the clippers. But you know in that jemaah muddy played out of his mind against the donovan mitchell. The utah jazz cds. But if you look at it right now the rest of the team he's the really should s compared to the other teams digests team is really good everybody's consistent you have mike on. Do people keep forgetting home using mike on news and mike. Gondolas finally bought into the system and his body into lego. Cam gonna play now. I think maybe for the first year he was like i had this great thing in memphis grizzlies. Now i'm playing But now he's playing getting getting in shape and doing these things. And then you have a joy. Inga's who's a team player can can give you fifteen fifteen seven every anytime you have a Blondel's boy on will downward who's a great team players that really meshed and they've played together. This astronauts pointed Played together for such a long time. That i can definitely see. That theme says been But from the nuggets respected the rest of the team has played absolute brash and so for them to be even winning a disc consistent base. And i think this is. That's why i give him the most valuable player because we're big him out if your take donald mitchell out i think still is maybe four five succeed but if you're big yokich out of the art of the nuggets i just think that they're gonna like not even make the playoffs because they're just playing that back There's no plan like if you had to become player who blues playing good name. But i i would argue that. That's probably why. I think. I think i think the the the difference here is that i do not expect monday. Do i was one of the few people like. Obviously they did the prediction. Also i stand by my words. But i don't feel that what john was doing. The not sustainable was season. I those feelings. Something happened to him. He he went bonkers and But i may make maybe for me. Because i had lord expectations of the nuggets. That that for me. I think that's why. I think they're playing well. I agree with you on people in the mike. Boorda should be playing this season but mendes of the team is just man. I how. I don't even know how to say an out hats off. I think would sit quite concisely follow it. I think the only problem is if again joke does all these things then as only should get the. Mvp you're not gonna vote for. Your kids is not the whole point of this. Yeah so. That's why. That's why i'm saying so i think that's that's the best venues that if you take your kids out of the team completely the i thought you were talking about how you bought into this nuggets team and you were going to work for them so it's like a contracting ideas. These these candidates. My friend is a candidates for these arbitrary. Not backing You'll get the mvp who is not let me you will fix by the lake Beneath what leading. I mean libron lebron. It'll the lakers. Yeah they're not gonna give it to him but he is the mvp. He's teams playing guard. He's playing really good. He's taking the team during the doing everything that's required. Anthony davis for some reason is just costing. I don't what the whole dynamic is. But what did they won't green call anti davis out of shape and fact Like him he did not say the words not the worst but someone that is who was stopped. Who's of leadership. I think everybody can. If david bentley signed me up for that program. I want to be that kind of ownership six foot out very. I think that i think more than the beauties that that's the thing that stuck struck me that there's no sodium nfl. But i'm very disappointed in anthony davis as an nba fan Then he joined lebron and the reason lebron onboard was because they wanted to win a championship. And the gate right. Now you can do it as above seasonal dossiers in whatever the case may be but they wanted to know chief changes your mindset it that these it's either go to it's either gonna throw you right and boost you throw at the back like i had said i think he said something called the disease of more or disease of something he had gone. This vendor leakers. Had been offered a couple of jealousy delivers at one. I generally expected. Anthony davis to boost end. I answered i don't of any lettuce indicted his with a some veteran as fans shoot. What's all this limit on short of deliverance. Been there done that. He knows what it's light. So i'm i'm fine. I think was one of my departments. I was expecting the gates in buffalo denied that gad who stalk enzi easy easy easy easy thirty five kinda guy. But i'm very disappointed especially with the brown on the other hand like no one's gonna be new solid professional gastropod fantastic signing the vp shula's to that they didn't have anybody to responsibly. Take the ball out of lebron's hand solidified the last The rhonda's modern extent. Instant offense is a lou williams. Who's my pm writing. More offense at things with ron has been consistency thing. I mean that is that is that is such a thing as playoff on the ongoing atmos. What he did at the beleaguered seasons ago against the warriors. The man wilson august when he was with the blues. I think britney seventeen of merdeka remember that. Cia the sensor dame lillard trailblazers four nil and rondo was on the pune. It's that aren't always granted. I think become one of the. I think if if honor decides to become a gorge i think he'd the greatest coaches able egypt. I don't think so. I think he's going to get to that. The temperament of the intellect by some fantastic. I mean i think so with all those fantastic signings. This brought onboard. They actually brought up people. Put the ball on the floor. Create the own shots to st anthony. Davis i don't know maybe. Anthony davis a saving himself for the playoffs. Vetted all means something that only thing that could be the case but at what al jonathan service. It's because it's sometimes know it's sad to see because he makes it seem so easy for him in the post outside also and then. He says i don't want to do i. I don't want to put forth forty out. I mean if it's not saving for the blouse what he's his co. exam what he's saying for just one little thing i'm gonna say. I am done watching the washington wizards. I thought three games of this and this is the worst basketball. I've seen in my life. I it it's upsetting. It's entirely of setting are externally Demotivating it makes me. Do you not like about what was have giving that given absolutely no effort man that is literally no effort to get. I was watching the game against the hornets one day. And then i'd be caught the ball like i. I mean. I don't know if it's a fair assumption. But you Competitive but you know if you when you bring at the park with the video know how how to play the game and they see look at the ball go and look at the bottom out and somebody else gets all washington telling oh okay mrs nor nor nor absolutely no defensively. Wanting absolutely not defense. That's fine that's a bit little bit of an nba but little effort managed to soul sack. australia guests while you're not alone in that board than noodle another person who or watching that split v all. I'll take your your to be returned to us ask. You can played by john. This is what i was. I've been debating all the marcus's. I don't think that badly that great man. He's a good score though. But i mean you know good good great players however should your team is able to rally them to some amount of more. How much of missouri. Five games i think. Four games doesn't matter i flew do. It was look big that the one thing is the next. Two of those fluke. So you're big so. I assume this up bradley that i am not convinced i you that not out perform audible goats. You cannot do that. Scotty brooks thing without a the lebron getting lebron. Everything is ridiculous thing these your grades it like a democracy chris. Paul mexico spot. This is a dog bentley. But chris. Paul had absolute passion new orleans. And he's just take them consistently into the playoffs very very well and his team is the morning sun. Now it's nice. Yeah van ben ben instead and then he was my my thing with bradley beal is i have a feeling because so many people have been talking about the score the he is what a bad situation is continues had the reserves though the story line is now in his eight he is. He is almost soul soul but entities is. I think there's something so the the issue is that people are instantly. People are concentrated. October about a situation is august. This guy who can drop. He's i think he's fifty An us but like a guy who gets caught he can easily drop though denied he's Creditable is an incredibly sandbox player. I think any. I think he can easily be the second championship. I feel that i generally do. The problem is that he's never been in. That situation is one in anything meaningful and people have been talking about him being in a bad situation. Law that you know. He's he's now going into this conversation of all my god if he goes into another be muted on the fortunes around. I'm with of any necessary. I don't think he is. I don't think he's a great new. But i think he is definitely a player that can be a second august built on a championship legend. He's a legend quarter. He can put the ball in the bucket Andrew clearly said as the games buckets. He got get buckets. The problem is not of that situation that nobody's ever go to null and that's when the conversation kind of that's what the conversation Bradley actually moved to a situation where he has to do something meaningful everything he does. Every bosque school is now is pointless and it has been pointless for the better part of five six years that with Absolutely over longer. No not not really. I mean i think seventeen. They made the western conference. Eastern conference semifinals. Mike barnes one cities with the wallaby as as a main guidance. It okay sabrina. Seventeen brennan saturday greenwich island debut. We've had four seasons blah latest demeaning. What he's doing. Let's let's face it. A young men need but it is just an offense and the fact that he doesn't feel that that is a bubba stool his busting his assets. concede in his body. Language does jif floating around where oshman's said the please motion. He's wide open. The bottle store doesn't come gumbo. Docs says volumes about the offensive position. That was possession that was going on. But he's not bothered and this is an radically listen. Bad guy to me. I don. I think we can all agree on that. He feeds again only and loves the king but the situation is just so i think he gets once he gets out of goes onto a championship. Five what did he signed signed a contract. Money said i want money. I don't want to win the but this is a big. No so this is i i. I agree with everything that you're saying but still four mins algebra adam blair can you be have four wins no i. I can't think of sean. I am going to get into this. This six minutes minus in from the chicago bulls today the sagoes venebles garden as the the first on look at the rest of the most passionate absolute trash right and he took them to becoming a contender garden. Mvp so i just don't obviously so you're you're right. Maybe one what example off the amazing the gleed note and it's not a it's kasich example about the great atlanta hawks who were the number one seed and no not young al horford ball this rude boy that orbit very gab and liberal ended what happened lebron neurons. The guest fussy. You guys to do team basketball. Do all in cotija the worst. That's fine. it's the same thing what's wrong with that. No there's nothing the same thing. I think that that's what you're saying. No but dealers have as she d team this with after what we saw at offered at over offered boardman back. Get kind and why. I think you're giving to less than it. For the hawks i am. This is the same thing is does the same thing that happens in the east one teams will be like. Oh we'll do something. And then in the. I'm gonna give you the hawks. Maybe a bad example. The raptors are a good example. Us how i let know exist. The mr rose. That was that was that was the city team that kept winning. If you that example get all these are all the. Let's talk about this because Let's keep the in the regular season. Non not spillover in an what happened then. Guess lebanon should have like an mba visa. And i m with Deservedly so i mean. I i you. Are you surprised that lebron has become like soul. Good i mean he was great. The nobody could have thought i saw walkie would be doing. The slant magazine is plus as idiot or the slam cup. The that he came up with the white brazil Please then that males one not those those novi. Anybody ever thought that he was going to get get to the stage. I don't think anybody you this story. I i think people still underestimated. Yes i the funny part. I was thinking the other days. Like guys let gov metal knee like hamid prevents deputy who are phenomenal phenomenal scores. That they seem so small Lebron has every time you have to combat kevin durant. Lebron like kevin durant looks so small but given the right in the most. Like unstoppable officers. That i've any student that's all good liberal on is a i mean it's crazy. I fund liberal in fact against the numbers. Nice so before you that before before that. Yeah i just wanted to remind people that Dunkin and dispose completely destroyed the best lebron fame one completely off. Okay the funding of this so in the nba lebron career averages twenty seven seven seven point seven won't seven assists but in his entire life he has never had this exact scored late. He's never advocated points seven months and seven assists in a game that i that i would have never. I'm sure that if he hears it the next game go into and seven hundred. Twenty seven seven six. He's come very close to four percents but never has he had twenty seven seven seven. And i think the recent game against the pundit he was very close to it when i had six points and state we want. So that's edison expert. This stuff really go off the mvp docked but one person who taught would definitely be you know mvp dial vp. Like he gave him the been on. Luke don't get everyone say. Everyone said that he is going to win then. Yeah you're going to be the auto biggest. i think. launch second-best odds from other nick the best odds before the season's best arts he had the best art for the he's let's vide- great a. He's had a pretty season because bend expectations so high. I'm sort of like because last year. He did butter rookie season. And we're like okay. This guy is now going to be the next lebron. He can get one with the best people can assist out of his head. He can shoot the ball out of the gym and everything. All stephen Yes those bonds. Everything has been down for this year. The team is also doing that. Great i think is more disappointing than by inset Having great numbers vinnie this a huge fan of luca since he came into the i. Jonathan feels about who cannot get to not being as it. Because i think it was on him would be probably adopt disappointments of the season about from out to visit games. Mike my response to anybody. Who thinks on is not that great. He's fucking guarantee one. He's twenty one milky. He did it the last as New these was unprecedented. This this that is liberal. Lebron donka volatility. Jim dunkin give credit to lebron. Jim duncan let's Lebron east i. I don't understand why these people come community sweep lebron's lebanon is in fricking legend. There is no doubt about anybody who says anything. Stupid bottlenecks cooper not. Gardening is disturbance turbulent. But but but to do that in the west which was lording is unprecedented in my. So he's i think he's not having a good season but he's not having a shitty season either he's sticking out and i do. Apple is understand that he's a young kid who whether we go no. His festival is not made himself as a real liberties public. As most of the other public savvy you know jaanus but example has come he. He makes himself available bubbling with social media. China's nobody really knows will move on onto other than other than some of the mavericks incited. So you don't know how he's wired. So i wonder five get anybody convincingly said. That didn't know how he is reacting to all this information information he's getting from social media doesn't follow social media for example. Does he the these lines are. They impacting him. What does he keep them set for march if he's isolating himself from it. He's having this guy season. Debbie can have another conversation we can. I would be forgotten. But if he's consuming this stuff and he's got all these expectations. We have no clue always reacting to them and let's face it. This is not his country. He's not a american. Unlike a lot of the lot of the young players were idiot. Lightning nude females who Who came to the. Us studied while you added garbage. And then kim. By day experience the culture think. I think the one of the big sample tip comes to mind is the suggested the guy who drafted by the detroit pistons i forget his name dot doc melissa jr i'm an idiot or phenomenon in europe and he came and he completed viki added examples a sixty as a sixteen year. He went overboard. Jason kidd in the olympic finance. He came the league seventeen eighteen. He's not had a great career. He's had a good. It's a solid good young. He's a great second often. Find god for the championship team. But he's not going to eat will be. We all thought it was going to be. So i think i think the i think that in general people agreeing We this season is going is unfit. He's not having a good day season. Which is which can be tropical adjustment. Said you pull up making. Let's not forget that. I think you only spoke about it in one of your part cousins. Nick how it was. I think delivered five to eight years. Avoid was offered to suggestion not defense. Adjust much right and because you have this because it's become the layup scandal. Gm people adjusted. Let's go nuclear the fences that apply. You know that and that would be my next point. They know that dante's is the focus of attention on the mavericks. So let's adjust their defensive nature. He doesn't score. Get us as little as half of the back of the game as and forget about the rest of the people who as it's going on the madness it s Reporters who who did what who what happened was this. I'm getting again. The mass look at alleged poisoning. The straight august cuban something that others though that maybe that has the potential to this younger he that is more headphone the mavericks. This not to take away the sponsored. From donte i think he deserves that responsibility. If you the unfortunate thing of unfortunate the downside of being that great so young is that europe guided that expectation. The view that expectation. So i feel though slack is unfit. I definitely don't think he's an wait. Roster in uganda decision i don't think he's And he doesn't deserve to be. But let's also goal has been a spate the mavericks crappy demanded i think the deep as best seven The gave me new good set guardian altogether in after. That's my dad. The games that getty mad ashes. So stupid i. That's that's a story. I would like to lead the i wanted the story Leaving the mavericks. That doesn't set like the son-in-law dockers i think as an nba style. If you wanna be a star you. The ubiquitous wants beautiful. What's happening for your leg. That just said about how stars actually make the. It's just a fat but let's also face it jodi unique boarding and unless some big steps are georgia. I would say for that seat. In that game i think mavs and warriors are pretty some little de one transcendent star and everyone else's just got to do their job. I think that would dream on grain hundred little bit more than focus because he is doing. What porzingis should we do. Some giving some help contribute. I've got a game out. I think that's the best our best we'd bet he shouts defense and passes the ball to the right right right. But because steph curry is also of those people who are the offense defense have been seeing for five years. They know exactly what's happening steph. Curry said like he's going to go fake. If he's not gonna come off of screens and the defenses have not been able to adjust to it so i think a little bit of that has to that. Responsibility has to go to luke. That maybe he's not done his own because he's shooting like worse than the best sleep done anytime you're shooting. Whether from any point you need to know that this and strengthening was a dozen Beer unidas something something. That sounds some sort of issue with you. And not like he has a great shooting accident. European guy so he. He was born like they taught him how to shoot first and then out of one and like some somewhere. I mean one thing that i noticed. Was you know when you get into the leaky. He was clean. There was no tattoos on his arm. And now he's all covered. That is become a different sarah. He's americanized all the indian. Uncle is year the indian on l. I thought invalidating all my points. But anyway i think i don't know possible that you know. He has forgotten all the great european thinks that made him great. He said that it's easier to score in the nba and especially compared to form leaks euro basket where they have zone desert guy always under the basket. So it's not like you can always go up and he killed it. As a is a sixteen year old. He was killing it in that system. So some something has wrong. I'm not saying that you know the obviously we saying the same thing audience because obviously it's not like the baskets jaanus every i'd be happy you say the same thing audience that he's he's become an ability and he draws forty cent price but we talk about one jumper at the end but again with the also made at issue is that he has not learned how to have a reliable sixteen for jumper which us pull out by. Maybe it's because his hands as long it. He's not he's not seeing any difference from honest years ago to now he still struggles and this year. He's struggling more of the house. So that all our all our feedback loop is only a doctor's next year get you're going to say that. Oh my god we we always believed in but this is absolutely shocking ball and yes somewhere i agree. That mavs are absolutely horrible and absolutely. I think that's probably the happiest guy. Because everyone has voted that he was an all star he was supposed to be that many of the next given dylan exact signed him and he is. He's is his as absent. Sorta music at the stadiums. Remarkable that anyway but listen. The thing is the thing is i wanted. I wanted about the aged tonight. So i was looking at certain ages grits. I was. I just want to out after that. It's done see. I think. I think the reason why i'm saying this. 'cause he's twenty one nv should cut them slack stated very young but you know in the mavericks have there was. This fought in bonn german player. Who came never played He never even played in the water. Utah leagues he was a. He played the gentleman. Second limited else for menu. Mention those people. No i and he gave it as a twenty year ordered and by age. Twenty one to this taking the mavs to the playoffs and getting give by another twenty one euro dunker. I know who was not being useful. How did i get that if knuckle this could this disputing factor keeping that given that in context. I do agree that he's really young. But that are that is president of grace. I tell you why. Because he's been playing basketball since sixteen. Yes yes. He's the grown s meg. I i not now but we have agreed that his immature just one four games in at all so you know. Maybe he's just adjusting. So i think it's still elite new who toured daunted. It's under the bus. Because he is. He has always proven that he's great. He's always deliberated. Just give him some more. If he stopped being throwing people under the bus talk radio in the car is split is not. Give us any games nassau hard before almost. He's almost the same number of games. One lake steph. Cut his waters. So i don't think that's pretty close. It's pretty gross. My only mile eating is that fed enough. Okay let's let's let's let's take the instinct I will give you further. I disagree there. But i will give you the benefit of doubt that he's been playing for a very long and he's been playing with grown men Anyone is anyone. Don chituwo albany. Grinning firewood Because in basketball goes So law. But it's i still. I still want to give credit to the adjustment. Franklin this debt is nobody else on the mavericks that dixie attention away from the defenses. Right now i mean is is as border skoda goede as greenies because you put that example. I split us quota as he is defensive still have to adjust agree because they have no clue what he's gonna do with the ball like on green has the ball in his hands except for scoring. The man is a genius. They did in terms of well. Well it a fact. It is a fact in ubon who average one. You don't have this twelve game order genius at the ball in your hand. If you have to border steph curry who is the best shooter of arkley dumps talking about. I'm talking about the month of february. Twenty twenty one month of february twenty twenty one issue avenue twelve assists in the western conference which is which we asked. The all via has gotten far tougher is extremely lawyers. Who average twelve assists again can not be genius with the ball except for scoring and i made that point we give this game except let's go to the as we've looked at the couple of a couple of obeef a couple of weeks away the heat under the smock did somebody. Somebody voted the smartest move in the history of the nba. Something oh yeah right. Want the three point. He thought he would get. They're like oh who's who is one of the defenses in that situation. Want the board day one re because they don't care they don't have to foul him if it wasn't an immediate his hands they have to follow up live so but that being said i ve very least. He needs attention off steph. Got when he moves. He's not just bill. That stands in one place and bosses let you in the android mix with the big name escalating who literally just stack block. Fat guys. nearly huge guy. He was six five mid three hundred bounds. Bobby heavier than jacqueline kennedy. The brother of whether the brother of mark's feeling he was lied to me. But i don't know the likely to work stays. He would do this thing where you just go blank himself. Right between low post high. Not even logos argument. I perceive blunkett's you the stanton station. He saw a bigger gun moved him and he would shoot buzzer. Then he'd like five six assists a game awful. As that's antoinette. Its feet wallin. It's fun as not dry dry him. A dachshund yacht Cut so greens not all commodity And that's one of the reasons why people are upset Because you need that attention off cutting now cutting translated that even if you give him all the attention he's gonna find a way to dodge not bought in. I don't think he is. I need to give if you're if you've got that possessions in again. I'm martha player pretty high base. How who is taking identify of off. Dodgers did not scared of anybody on the minds at melbourne so fettered. If he's young he's he's he's not but who often the mavericks i think policy could play the mavericks. Eman and disabilities said he will keep the daunted all five lows of. Let's figure the mavericks. The madison student only managed by denver arms. And and this is a knock on putting a deal percents anyway. Maybe we've talked about the steph. Got even talked about your kids. Embiid yannis no not lebron bessbrook and other people's adnew we need to they all have in common. Yes exactly you're right. They're all all-stars. So we are going to segue into the all-star game this supposed to happen they. They had they shed. Your whole thing is going in. Johnston island want benaroya all-star team but also should they have in that make sense to give us an insight about what you thinking as i think the all seconds of business decision not i think it is abe. Is this decision right. it's i think. I think i believe this ball came out a statement. Says it all right. He's the all star game is not a player's decision. It is the decision of the management of the awful league and as players. We have to find a way to have the These but we have to have that conversation and seaman the look on the players who have come out in opposition of the all star game happy one is of course the the most media funding is whether it's a lebron whether it is jaanus obviously the big stars and then he asked the folks who made his comments now. It's easy for the just be that. I think this conversation to be had on meal charter. The nba one of the What one of the decisions we habich venture is like lord of this pandemic conversation around the business of being has not been front ended on the media on. The media's front ended on the on the negotiation uber but on the media. It's been front ended. The conversation has been funded by those dolphin clears layers on sitting on one hundred and fifty two hundred million dollar contracts lebron's very close to becoming a billionaire. It's easy for these people to say. Hey man we should not have. It's a fantastic law valid points. Should you have an all game trivial garnered independent doubtful because the us mugging country just struggling with bendon but it is a business decision document. Impact most of all the people in the middle of the back force in terms of silent effect. That that what what would what would we could call the class. And because the nba lost one point five billion dollars last year right. I think this is a number. That's been bubbly that most likely the most likely to lose money this year. But they just don't and we don't know the reason why we don't know what that is is because we still don't know how they're adjusting avoid things behind the scenes that we don't have gone issues that are going on between donald sports and adamson vo and so forth but you have to look at the allstate as a business decision. I get that these players are concerned about safety. But let me say this. Which was the first league in the woods to complete a season with zito over positive So if anybody could pull off an all star game it's the nba right. Addenda people that good pelota massive debt people confidently boil off actually saw three people who three weeks that can pull off a massive event now. The ufc has players per bugging literally. Officer interdict god The nba that played competed season. I can't even remember. The number of games was one hundred keeps intruding on it and fifty gives us something to that. They completed the season in a bubble and then shot to india. The i right this. Because i actually was spotted. The organizing committee follow the idea from the sports teams and he was. He was giving me five percent liquor. Somebody of the arrangements made degree in the bubble blew my mind. Like i m my brain's falling of yours because it was so complex this five minutes this abiding thing a massive documented about going on. So is that if there is at least you can trust. Run this run this game vidadi issues. It's the nba you bet on the nba for doing. It's business decision. I feel i feel the should happen. But it needs to happen under the dismayed. Good for goals from from watching the envy of last season. I don't think anybody anybody's Deportable as than dnv. You could mess with some extent with david strength because it would have a conversation. Then you blend estimate what about is i. Don't fuck without you. Know so. I i think they should have I think it should happen. Under protocols vet i feel myopia diverse from some of the list. Is that clause in the contract. The mvp the i think it's a cv which talks about the ad mandatory participation right because that is where we hadn't unique and much of the you have to overlook all you have to look at every contractor. Sign if you're not looking at contracts anyway you had an asshole so i think that that part. That clause should be back. Because i believe if you bought attended you are actually not injured. Then you stand standard face a fine. Maybe then if if somebody but mid maybe. But i don't think is right to find the because it is the choice if their fees and it's just the player it's about the players family's safety so a play missin. No but he or she especially at the success of the presidential Because he or she's making a bus ner decision and then one last thing i'll say is i. I'm i'm in agreement with lebron on the whole exhaustion because the last season on longer than expected the next this season stafford nee quicker than we expected. They would really looking forward to that five dignity. Which so that i i agree with mrs james but then again which brings me back to my earlier. One if somebody wants to take that five this would this season day. You have the pandemic. It's possible weekend one of the nba as you look at the the that happened multiple cases where things one of the. Let's let's not. Let's not bring macaroni spoken to this. No anonymous but the the legendary crisp the little. It was a lot of nap. Nobody's talking everybody's talking about it but will be so. My point is if he can do this as one way you give happy odd study. Give a choice the players to perform and if they don't want to make adjustments twit artemis the chat instead is that if all the stars decided to sit out then is it even sponsors erected Put money in the all star because there is a limit on other yada yada Not going to be there. I knew this have a bunch of say not a+ players but Lesbians then zippy little whether you went icy think it is but i sure happened but they should figure we look at laws the about attendance. That's that's my opinion. It's a business decision all of the opinions that any human being could ever have think i'm beautiful. Your see i wanna see. The thing is the way i look at you guys you are. I look at you waters. The fan. i don't is as much as i understand icy. He's got a business inadequate fire. I'm curious you guys the way you guys are looking at this like what. What is your me for me. It's very it's this is not the same bubble that were in last. The players are not isolated. They're out in the so then. You have to understand that i mean how many events are the time i do you really want. I agree with diamond. I'd never thought about the smart thing getting. It's unfair because these are not the same dogs. Invest designed the entry civic. They have to have some sort of justification for that. I mean they've already lost one and a half billion last year like how does it matter if there was little bit more just to make sure because the nba from the beginning. I like after since they've consistently been saying that we want to be one. We don't want things to happen. We don't want people mixing aspects us. We don't want because we want the players to be safe. If somebody like you said at the beginning durant take the intention there was. Let's not get an infected on uninfected people which is an initiative rob but then a one part that is also do not have unnecessary clubs make the letting fans in stadiums as for the same reason the doing all these mandatory takes everything is for one reason and then suddenly you're like okay now everybody come together for the sake. It doesn't make sense to me. That's it as a fan. The all star game last year. What happened optical beams dead. Then then they believe really great matt so we're sorta mostly looking only for that competition the living in a little bit of time so i i'm not i'm kind of okay with even if they don't have the all star game i'm i'm as a fan. I'm okay with it. Because i want to get to the game still one day. I am not even sure they'd be that much that invested in. I'm but i'm kind of as a fan. I'm okay with the not having your second this year. Of course vinnie. They beat respond to something. That is not as a as a response but so i. i don't know that it is. I think the olympic has athletic got access to and maybe obligation but about any debt is even a three or four day protocol to be followed before the all star game and there are a lot of the events that are happening around the all star game then. Aren't you ensure that this the debt. They're not even sure at this time with audiences of spectators. That's because i think the atlanta hawks when doubts technically supposed to be happening in atlanta But there's no information. I think the halted allowing Thousand fans per game right. So the notion that they're going to allow spectators Testing has gotten to boat super super crazy night in the sense. It's gotten very scott not specific as possible. You have desks in. It's been tested. Though the we have evolved the science behind has evolved so if they can put your in this case all the players are not in a above. They're all gonna come from different cities. But the i believe the former that the following if they have it would with is to bring all the players i the way they started the publishers just isolate them deaths them and then execute the what i believe this is the is the i kind of senator guy though in be us is seated on the athletics while the jordan. And do this but believe what we talked. Yeah i mean. I think that thoughts osama i think that nobody's the fine print So ben is always emotions. Get the get the best Everybody thinks that all-star game he'll be she says it's just too much of emotions that i did and you're right that any any league that can execute a decent game of basketball off any sport is probably the nba. And i did lead some stuff about it. And you know i think the david follow all the protocols. Iv like you know lebron's kind of bitchy about it He's probably he's probably gotten the most out of the sport and he. I think he could have handed it in a much better than seeing is a slap on out phase year. Enough alarmed him on know him being thankful like some kind of emotion. I don't know i just. I think that that was the off. The all sponsors that lebron has Probably was responsible Into something that he clearly knows is a business decision and he has been on the end of all these that he has gotten whatever once wanted whatever price he wants who whatever the fucking wants so. It's just a distinct spider him And for the rest you know. I think Most of the people we get to go the odds. That game oughta oughta fucking million. So i doesn't do a matter. These guys they don't get fine doesn't matter if they wanted to be. Add these archives and and so you know even this argument that people have all that like you said you know like middle class status. It doesn't affect them because aren't even gonna get into the odds so it doesn't matter no so so so mighty sponsor that is it's not it's not about the money that the all this stuff Effecting the money that the all star will be basis basis Basketball nudity got which would then infect the end of end of season will cut that they get from the basketball related company of the lesson the bus order limiting gum so any impact on the sponsorship. That will happen with what is beyond. I if the if this is something that we don't know how it was going to play that game with with with the people that are being the i'm in this particularly tony don us. The big city unite. Which is the grenfell billion contract for the dvd nights. So now the conversation is that if you don't have the second one of the things Ingesting said if you don't have the all star game then we'll probably. The nba might compensate bill by having more nationally televised games night but then darwin impact at each wrecks that they have because of Exclusive again. that's where you don't see something games on national d. In the us and national tv this is espn other stuff so So that's what it backs the middle class. I that has a lot of than use the money. But i also feel like and this is where he went out of the i feel that for somebody at the level of lebron to say what he did and i think i think i'm done with little stupid on sister the in view Because you didn't make the first time he's done he's done at mark debris binds before i think even did it at the start of the pandemic if it on mistaken where he said is as if nine fucking and you don't remember that stuff hey and he's done this historically in his career now one. I does one group of people that say. This is lebron playing the media which is possible. You don't let's not. Let's give him the benefit of the dog. Maybe he's dot freaking smart. And has that kind of an idea ladies. Like if i'm gonna to say the if i'm gonna give you the bbc version of things then maybe wrote about it. If i said something as is per walker davis slap in the face especially with racism being such a big deal in the us is like a slap. A black man is facing it. People looking to set needs emotion right so but if he said it out of ward this organization. that's a stupid answer and liberal motion. melvin So i just feel that those conversations should go more with people that were news. liberal losing xml lebron using one million verses said lebron who makes forty million euro liberals losing one million was somebody who makes five million. Losing one million is a massive difference. So i think the problem is media are going to cover. Though obedience of somebody was running five million. Because he's going to shut up and wants to and his money. He wants to feed his family. He and what is reasons might beach meet as always gonna follow the big story line so i just feel that this is It's it's blown article poison. I generally do data sports events happening all over the word absolutely successfully within bubbles so nobody can category. You mean the me that jonathan this is not possible. That's a stupid stephen But can we have it. In a way that keeps all parties interested parties the nba the players the nba and even the sponsors and the fans you have to consider all four sides. And i genuinely truly believe if this through and read enough of smart people at the table but including state of michelle vets That smart people that beamer to figure out a solution wet all ford western parties get usage. It's impossible that we don't. I think we need that. I would think about just before this barca said as a human race. We have this ability to find solutions. You're back into the corner and this is a back back into the Again we have the game on. Octopus is good in factor is going to impact finances. Can we find the solution. And i think again. I think they should ask the guys. Get bit. Large broussais okay. Whatever us in the light you give back in saturday's your something like that. Nc who play star game that this is obviously this is what bothers may not be innovative solutions to problems that we didn't know we had lovie. Let's talk for and Judo katie give inside. If you can don't know if your work is covered by lot of as much what exactly are you working on right now. Is that possible for you to give i so. I'm actually doing two things right now. I'm actually working with a company. Goes joe dot gov and if you've got people who are viewing would invested in what's dot vari doesn't need doing is streamlining the process of reading in this industrial india. I think mostly now if you wanna get a job in this wasn't There's only one week. Which is you tied a podcast. That that's definitely looking absolutely but the the what you find the job jawbone lyndon and apply or you actually something. This was industrial Joe is doing is through a proprietary process. They are actually streamlining that brussels. So you'll go through So i'm actually doing a lot of content for them. I'm not working. I'm not officially an employee. With but a lot of insolvency it started by shop minded guy juicy nuance and who's pretty much been at the top of all marketing media whether it is the he's headed ma making opting he's done. Bcci he's been at the time. Do you guys remember. There was a legendary cricket at chemo. The nike without web. Your blinker the buses. You'd remember that young. So so that that what she needs. Add by the lake. Chini was head of marketing was was the very shop guys when he started this busy gap in the market so i do content consultancy for them I do some writing worked for fan code. Which i'm sure you guys already will find quote is starting to become. The netflix is aiming to become the knicks sports light. Sports globally is with the market And then as usual continuing to look for funding and dr bunch of people fall by illegal basketball to me. I think greg brady has given me some space and sometime most focused on it So that's the focus. That's what's keeping me busy. I don't bother talking about this doing basketball llamas. And then we met for the nba game on so that you don't like his back basketball baba's you get back. When we need to bring him back to civilization now he is by by then he laughing stuff for stuff for nonprofit because he doesn't okay absolute dennis dennis about me achieving. Whatever whatever baba's anything but money anything baggage just have a loincloth. that's v v will be. Okay i mean that that's all time that is for this episode of this episode. I six i six. I forgot we had six. You had an episode last week and it got do technical issues and i was sad. Maybe hope that it will not happen but every season one episode which will be accorded will come. So you've talked to that. Thank you for joining us. Viewers like ships bird follow. And do all those things. But a yami. Also for the league's on i. I lived that sport. If you guys listen to us that you might be interested in. Maybe having activated sports. So maybe he'll get bob become number one fan of anything. Sports need say by all right. Bye bye bye. Guys thanks jonathan.

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Opting Out and Bill Self Edition

Courtside with Seth Greenberg

1:00:31 hr | 2 months ago

Opting Out and Bill Self Edition

"At the buzzer saw. Sometimes they courtside with greenberg and dockage. The definitive college basketball podcast. Welcome to the world's greatest podcast got bill self coming up a lot of news last night. Jalen johnston takes a hike on duke. Three weeks left sent greenberg. I saw on sportscenter. And i thought you handled it. Well repeat what you said. It's all semantics. But he didn't opt out he quit. I mean you got three weeks ago. We played the last two games. So you talk about. His health would be playing. It'd be wasn't healthy. Why did you play the last two games. He cleared out his locker. You're talking about duke university a world class medical center. If you wanna take care of your body and get help medically would think you'd stay at duke. But he picked up any left. He left his team. He left his brotherhood. Left everything else. that was part of duke. Now here's the deal. I said it dame game. And when he didn't play it sums up. I came on the air or something is up placements against nc state. 'cause the guy's playing hard and playing better so basically from what i'm hearing is his people said you know it's not his best interest to stick around. Now i gotta give due credit. They went to some new york. Priore firm got this glossy declaration of how. It was the best for everyone. He's always going to be a member of the brotherhood. All that stuff in monkey gotta do that. I understand that but in essence like. Here's the deal. If you act out this is what you did you say you know. I'm not healthy. Whether it's mentally or physically not healthy but these are my brothers. This is my team. I'm going to stay with these guys. I'm going to be on the bench. I'm going to stand by them. When i'm just not able to play when you pick up and leave you quit. It's that simple. You're walking away from group of guys that you started the season with so i mean to me. I don't understand how it can be perceived any other way than than he quit on his team. Whether quit on it turns out his basketball. You can on the turns and other reasons i look. I do think this dad. These kids have such unrealistic expectations. Their families have unrealistic expectations. Their circle of influence is unrealistic expectations when those expectations aren't met i think it suffocates these kids in exhaust these kids. The idea that transition from high school to college is a lot harder than it looks. Everyone thinks it's hard in jump from college. He obeys ridiculous. But let's let's call it what it is. The dude quit on his team. There there's no debate on on it. You can trick trick it around and call it opting out used semantics different world. But he quit a conversation. You know you give duke a lot more credit than i do. I i just find it. Amazing that the the institution duke. One of the great institutions in the world right has to acquiesce to an eighteen year. Old and hire a new york firm to make everybody happy like you can't come out and say as coach k. the representative of duke the number one representative of duke university. In fact i looked up some dukes stuff and everything. Notable alumni include melinda gates carlos boozer. i mean. They got all these basketball players and we have to acquiesce to eight. We can't tell the truth about eighteen to twenty two year olds because there's no way it helps coach k. Unless he's really changed. Is all that flowery about this. But we can't even at one of the great academic institutions even at a place where people internationally to study. We've got to acquiesce publicly. The face of the university to eighteen to twenty two year olds. I've said this before. And i'll say again name me another. Maybe the entertainment industry industry that has to do this to eighteen to twenty two year old to yet yet will tell you that nobody should tell these kids what to do going to school and being the face of duke doesn't matter it's all about getting to the nba at hey Good for him. Probably good for duke. But it's fascinates me that nobody. I mean john thompson will it's fascinates me in this day and age. We've let our sport get to the point where we have to hire as you said a new york law for to make us look okay for the next guy that may wanna come while representing the i dunno top ten top twenty top twelve whatever. It is universities in the country. It's the funniest thing to me that we've allowed our sport to get to this point and it ain't stopping it is not eight and the kid wants to go man go. You're not allowed. You know i heard so many last couple or twenty twelve hours. Basically about you anybody else will. These old white guys telling kids. I'm not telling. Nobody nothing. But i do still believing team. I do still believe in commitment to a degree a look to a degree but with three weeks to go a straight quit but man i just get a kick out of it. I just get a kick out of the greatest coach in the history of our sport or whenever we say has to acquiesce like this. It's embarrassing frankly for the sport. I don't know if it's an actual new york. Pr from that's what came across some glossy thing. You know all you know. Laura i'm like here's the deal. I mean like the dudes circle of influence decided. It was right from now. This is the same guy that went to three high schools of. I'm not mistake. So say that. Seth we're not. We're just the fact i mean i saw. Here's my here's my bigger question. I'm became are people have like six or eight in the draft. Which is crazy. When are we gonna put an emphasis on winning. Flyers were now. Here's the mean. The nba is so young isn't amazing sadique based plan. Well isn't it amazing. Tires albert's playing well isn't amazing. Jalen brunson flyer. Well isn't it amazing. Like hey out wires. I mean like the ball kids have ever ever. She's but is it an amazing that the guys that translate a winning teams that have winning cultures. Tough guys waiting players win year after year after year. You think that the the miami heat are taking guys that are low character. Not competitive you. Think the set the tonio spurs even like a right. Now as the lakers rebuild their stuff or or or oracle state warriors. Or i mean to me. It's it's almost comical that we get seduced by potential standard that the nba is a futures market. I understand the draft. It's but the league is getting so young but let me ask you bigger question. This whole idea of opting out. I think it trickles down from seeing. Nba guys go. I don't wanna play for this team. I want to play for that team. I'm not gonna show up to training camp. It goes this the shawn watson thing where he's making a gazillion dollars He signed the contract. No made him sign a contract and yet quite honestly you know. He says he's not going back. And look i a- contract that so this'll people do not be. I had a contract that long beach state and i had a contract south florida. You know what when. I left those places. I paid a bio right. I you know. I made a choice in a paid by the end of the season. But i i just you know. This is not the first opt out of the next month. You're gonna see teams opt out. You're going to see players opt out. You can see players that can return to campus opt out because they're going to put their name in the transfer portal. You're going to see players out that because they you know quite honestly not complain the ncaa tournament and they wanna get quote unquote ready for a draft. Get a kick out of like so your college coach. You decided to play for can help you get ready for the draft but a workout guy can get you ready for the draft. I don't like so the guy you play for chose to play for. He can help you get better but some guy that you entrusted or so you on something. He can help you get better. I just that that's that's one of those head scratchers to me. See i go the other way with it. I think it's the other way i think. Sure kids see Nba players leave. And i do think. Most things trickle down but i i kind of go the other way. I kinda say it starts from the bottom up. Meaning i see so many kids walk on a u. team. So other teams i see. So many kids highschools now we've made high school so easy like it used to be men. High school is no different in college. Like you transfer you gotta go through a thing and you're gonna sit out of here. But i i don't look at it as it trickles down from the nba. I i look at it as you know how many you said this kid's been the three high schools and again. I'm not judging anybody. We're just talking because we both love the game and i had a contract. Actually i did never contracting west virginia. A lot of people are coming at me saying well you left west. Virginia dam ryan present. University threats made by ass ain't stain working for him now. If the president duke threaten jalen johnston he should leave. But i don't think that's what happened. Maybe it did. I don't know. But my wife. And i got threatening west. Virginia by mandate david harbour states. Don't stick it up his ass and we left. If that's what happened to jalen. Johnson then fine but anyway yeah i think never a good thing to tell the president to stick it up his ass. If you're if you're on the campus thinking you're taking your job. Why already took it already. Had a press jobs but when he threatened my wife and i with with he will destroy us slapped table. I will destroy like my wife stood up. But i looked like a what she never spoke to. What do you mean destroy us and then from there away but anyway people are all over for it. If that's you know if that's what happened to jalen. I applaud him. Believe but i think it goes the other way and it's like south. It's like i got one friend. Who robbed stops okay. He he went to jail when we were you know in in high school and college. And he's like i times artist. Second time will be easier. Same thing with quit. Same thing with cheating on your wife. Same thing i mean you know so it gets easier now. I'm not here to is any but but we do. We are you. And i are paid to talk about college basketball and the idea that everything and i mean this is what came out the most last night to meet everything in people's mind is about getting to the nba. Everything there and if you talk about playing hearts some guys. Don't give me that cliche about team. Work and playing hard. And i'm thinking to myself that oh cliches cliche. Because it'll serbian. Along with last thing. Seth and then then i'll go back to. We're the only country in the world in the absolute world. That doesn't pay attention older. People we gave a rat's ass what fifteen year olds thank as opposed to what seventy year olds thing. Seven-year-olds been through some stuff fifteen. Don't know their ass from third base but guess we care about fifteen twenty eighteen year old sucks. We have no. We have lost. In my opinion we have lost the fundamental of educating for the long run we educate for right now at eight guy once. Go the nba. God bless you. I'm not even a good. His team is no good. They're better without a good but the bigger issue is man. I'm stunned by how people literally have no respect for education. No respect for sticking with something. No respect for toughness. Hard work and teamwork. It's amazing to me. It's probably our country to grant right there. I'll tell you who has an understanding of education hard work. My man the youngest seventy five year old in america letter hamilton. Yes sir. Because i'll tell you one thing he always does talk about education. He always talk about the this transfer thing and how life's lessons that you learn by stick at something out you always talks about the value of education and not just going to school but getting an education and he gave jinyan educationist. I mean like you saw florida state. And how about this this this you talk about substance issue talk about maturity this talk about a culture. They have to pauses to pauses and they come out of the second pause and absolutely whack virginia a team that does not beat themselves a team that basically has great culture. Great discipline integrate execution. And does you know planes the game and tries to impose their identity on you and florida state. Yesterday put on a clinic. They put on a clinic on playing hard. It could on clinton by clean unselfishly. They could on a clinic by their depth aware and people down. They put on a clinic by being resilient. Virginia made that run cut it to seven day reign. A fourteen straight points that shows the character integrity of their team to me. Florida state and the five hundred hundred hamilton yesterday. Basically sent college basketball and message. Shame that you know what we are the real deal now the other part of this rant and this is my rant you want to see what you think so. Everyone now is up in arms. I'll tell you one thing. Virginia's unwatchable there on watch tonight. The way they play they play so slow. Oh my god this and that not play. Defense games are so bart and then you have in. They take you have iowa. Oh all they want to do is run up and down at scorn shoot three point shots and throw it the gazelle but they don't really play hard defensively america like make up your mind. Iowa plays a fun style basketball. They go up and down. You know what You know they they have good. Wednesday are going to be just yet because they got it added different. Aren't oh by the way you know what you don't like them. Because they played too fast issue too many threes and they play frida second. You got virginia on the other side. All right oh my god. It's embraced face. Always i got it. Come on make up your mind america. Like here's the deal is a lot of different ways to do the same thing and get to the same destination. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder. So here's it. I am in love with florida state. I like watching iowa play. And i like watching virginia play. Get over. well. That's a nice trip. And i will also add to that read. That's one of the beauties of college basketball. Not everybody plays the saying. May i add a team. I'm not so sure. This wasn't the win of the year in college basketball. What michigan tell me drink. No that was good to know michigan. Going into the whole center on a twenty one day pause sad nobody wins in a coal center like ninety two percent or whatever it is in a coal center. So what is your on howard. His crew do they go in. They get down at half. They shake off the rush little bits and next thing you know what we're close pop we're closer. We won the game. Let's go. i'm telling ya juwan howard. When john came to michigan he ran offense with counters in a bunch of different stuff. That was different than everybody else. John howard's i'm not so sure hasn't taken it to the next level i think. Juwan howard is the national coach of the year in the country. Depending how goes now. Look you go undefeated. And your baylor go undefeated your gonzaga. That's fine but i'm telling you fourteen in one coming off of what. They came off of going into that place against a veteran team set. That was unbelievable what they were able to winning that game. I'm telling ya john. Howard the office isaiah livers. My god like the dude is like he's playing in your backyard. Just do whatever he wants. And i met at drake either. I watched that game. A hell of a comeback without their league scored Here's the already michigan and drake to keep an order. I knew what was going to happen. I knew it was going to happen. Because they got maturity they got toughness. Who colder than wisconsin. Like that's by here's the have well. Here's the thing you had. As many rebounds rivers and fire 'cause they had zero combined zero combined let me say that again. You had as many rebounds. There is something wrong wisconsin. I've said that two weeks ago we talked about. There's something not right. Seeing your teams man. They go one way or another senior teams. They see the end of the tunnel. Senior teams is sometimes. There's jealousy senior teams have heard it all kinda especially in the pandemic. Maybe they lost that. Fire that you that support. Whatever it is wisconsin's not right. You know the twenty second half they give up forty points in the second half now. A lot of it is michigan. All right i said unplugged my man hundred dickinson plug them back in had three games prior to that we struggle. The guy was probably exhausted terms of just the intensity of college basketball. What does he do. Fifteen rebounds five offensive rebounds five blocks shots scored around the basket livers wagner or or a joke brooks and and smith perfect. They got an eight-man rotation beautiful. So like for the game i. I have no doubt michigan. Come back in the game. It's mega rats. If you watch you watch game day show. I said that there's no doubt in my mind. I mean come on now. Now you're on the air out so you ticket now. I thought here's my bill. And drake drake basically one the semi finals missouri valley conference because by winning that game. They stayed alive to get an arch. Bit by winning that game. That was like winning a game. That gets you to the finals of your conference championship. They lose that game unless they wanted to conference tournament. They weren't getting bit probably because they've been they hadn't beaten anyone but by winning that game. That game was a semi final game. Missouri valley that gave the may chance to get to the final now. They had the next three weeks to take your business games that the supposed to win and now they get to the finals and conference tournament. There it because that game got been in the ncaa tournament if they take business against the teams to be we in his his I told us. Great way to put it and i also think the taylor get ready with shock if you don't mind because i'm on a socket. Wisconsin taylor soccer. Adam just nah. Nah there anyway. I was texting with marty. Recommend the assistance at drake. And he's like man. I'm telling ya we've got top dudes we just got we just got tough tough dudes. And he's lying they just have tough tough dudes. May i move along for justice. Coach real quick Coach brain yes. 'cause we're salt yes where we are. Let let let me go route. That i it to bid leagues -tupid leagues that aren't normally to like the missouri valley loyola's so people understand loyal. Is the top twenty five team right. They are really good. Yeah i mean my man. Nikolai yokich didn't play well on sunday. Nikolai yokich didn't play well crowley but as we move forward with this like i don't know is belmont an nc double eighteen. If don't win their conference are they. Don't have into a man you why you watch them play so good man. I mean they are good five days double figures second in the country. Assist per game shoot like second country and feel represented genetic admit mecinski a bake who could step out and can score in a block I mean grace. Murphy's six to toughen here this past weekend. I mean i'm just don't belmont is really good. Really good one seventeen in a row like you know i do. They become twenty two. And one. I mean i just. I'm curious as we move forward. What's going to happen here with some of these. Some of these teams like that i. I'm always curious about it. Because i think like look all right which utah state. Hey coach there's got twelve and four south eight and to delete memphis everybody kinda count them out there. Eight three in the league. How much do you think record in. This what i was gonna get at. How much do you think record in. The league is gonna matter because we've had such a restricted non conference season. I think it's going to be your. I don't i don't think it's going to be record. I think it's i think committee is going to weigh. Your quality wins versus bad losses. I can't get quality. Wins in my app by your crop by so they might have to look at your quality. Wins within your league. But you're badly you have bad losses getting your league. You know that that could that could hurt. Someone's tapes. Now here's the deal like a bad loss in the big ten. I think the bigger question. Who committee is this. Big ten big twelve. You're going to have lost. You just losses. You've got teams in the top twenty five rankings. Not four hundred students. I mean you can have lost. So how does the committee look teams. That don't have a great record. Minnesota another great record hasn't worn on a road but you know what you good winds has house. The committee look look at teams that have indiana's eleven nine. Yeah exactly. but they've got good woods. It'd be nyah. With so many things. Because i would lies so i mean. I think that that's going to be an issue. I think. I think those teams are trying to get a second bid. I think as long as they don't have that loss. You know like kim can houston can afford to lose two east. Carolina can belmont the afford to lose the south eastern illinois. they lost the samford ulysses. It's currently laws. It's only lost thirty. Two thousand three hundred thirty three and thirty three thirty four there like one hundred twenty thirty of last five years the osmond saying in this year when belmont never historically been afraid to play t i let me ask you lost the orlando tournament. You see they. And they were anti with michigan state in orlando and all those teams orlando. Brady they lost that. And then the other three gains when the double went said that twenty. Seven the max. They lost three other guaranteed games. 'cause i've talked about it so they lost opportunities. So how do you judge. You can just go by what you did. Right i mean is that it. I would go by what you did. And then you watch their team like they say that they take into the analytics will look the analytic team offensively. No one very few teams have better analytics. Offensively six and a half as officiency make every every shafiq. Hey they get every shopping. They want played a ridiculous. A fast paced. There are a lot like they play a lot. My crate offensively is doing much time last week watching. They're fun to watch. I wanna jump back to the big ten because sunday. It's ohio state against and you know that's the big game is we're going to have because you got number three number four playing each other. I don't think number one and number two. We're gonna play each other right. They tried to. What do you see. Ohio state versus michigan coming up sunday. Here's the thing. Tell me if i'm wrong and you know that better than i do. Ohio state placed physical offense like physical defense ohio state place physical off. It's one by physical offense. Is they screen heart. They cut hard. They drive you put you on their hip. They may quit. They're going to post up. They're gonna stick you and drive you back They they drive the contact timbre way. They drive to contact. That's a hell of a way to put. That's really good. I'm using that not footnote. You don't ask me okay. Don't ask me anymore but And then michigan is more fleet free flowing but they do play through their post. So i mean like i. I think it's a phenomenal game. It'll be interesting to me. Because i look at ohio state. They're better defensively people. Think because i'll tell you what they do. I look i look at crystal the way i look upon krugman for weeks he takes what you do well and takes it away and then he exploits what you don't do well. The problem is where. I look at michigan. I'm trying to figure out all right what you do. Do you take away. Do you take away isaiah versus at the one guy. You need to take out of the game. I don't know is it. You know you get gonna limit They can since coach touches. I don't know. Are you gonna make it harder on michael smith. I don't know so. I think the decision on what to give a what to take away from michigan is really hard you gap franz wagner and now all of a sudden that his his defender becomes gap help defender of their here to make shots. I don't know. But i do know that chris holtman. He does a great job of wine. Crew rig someone attacking their weakness and then basically exploiting you know strength. And i just think he. He's phenomenal added. I think you're watching. It reminds me so much for watching this oklahoma. Which is the same thing they're doing. I still think michigan's better. You know one of the things that drives me nuts about fans is they'll say well coach made no in game adjustments. So i always say okay. What adjustment did you want to see right. And people don't know the answer but chris holtman will and one of the things that he will do. Is he'll take the post i dickinson. We're going double. Are we winning. Are we going to double. And he has it all set up. We may not. We may double on the first bunch. We may dumble on the catch. We may double and then back off as soon as he dribbles out away from the basket or we may stay and make him a pass from. Get everybody on the ball side of the basque. Chris hopman is really really good at those type of things then what he's and beeline was great. Relying was so good at that and then he'll figure out all right during the game like bill. Belichick said every games organic. You've got a coach this game. He'll fit okay wagner not going in this game you know like. He's not playing. Well i can tell. He's a driver in this game. Not a shooter. So he'll play off and use that guy to help So those are the things you come in with a plan. And then you've got you know. Abc g. underneath it and really. It's the same thing with like. I'm telling you this justice suing he is the kinda guy in a game like this could go get twenty five. The hall of famer head coach kansas bill self. That's simple coach. Your thoughts on dealing with your team during the pandemic and you know what you're getting some criticism because your team isn't winning every game so how you deal with all this the how you handle the team. I don't know that i've done a great job with. I don't know if i've done four but it is so different. I think seth and i spoke about this before. It's like a wannabe demanding as you've ever were but i really think our society and of course kids are part of that are so fragile right now because of the isolation because of the french ships that they can't see families they can't see you know. Misery loves company as as we all know as coaches and so guys leave practice miserable. Go hang out with miserable guys and then they come back in the next morning. Guess what they do. They hang out with miserable guy and so we tried to. We tried to at least be better as far as more understanding an empathetic towards a situation. But you know when when you lose five out of seven that kansas you know it it that kind of goes out the out the door. So it's been fun. This is a great group. i. I've even had guys has been in the program for years saying coach. This is the best group of guys we've ever had. And i i. I think that's kind. Been one of our issues to be real candid with you. We we we like each other so much that we don't keep each other accountable like we should Were there. There's not guys like frank. Masons or the devante grams or the josh jackson of the world. That don't care. All they want to do is play good ball and win and and sometimes i think we're little soft on each other But i do think we're playing better now. It's been it's been a fun. Years been challenged. He's been a great opportunity lead But hopefully now getting into mid february. We're planning our best ball coach. How do you deal with these. Kids have said such unrealistic expectations. And there's so much static around him even pan in a pet banik. How do you deal with the mental aspect excitement. Like you know like we said jaylon johnson. He decided to opt out. But you're going to see kids. They're dealing with more than normally we deal with. And you're not dealing with a ton of freshmen. But you're dealing with sophomores. Juniors who have expectations but this was their time they going to step up and this was going to be their team. How do you deal with the expectation and went. All they realized like being the guy is a little harder getting that opportunity is not as easy to look and i out difficulties that i actually think. I actually think you know you guys know this. You know when when you're on the second team we call it a red. He you know that shirt. It's a little different than it does when you switch over to the blues and what we what we have done route we. We've really done a great job this over years. We've we've recruited unbelievable guys that fit what we do that so Allow the best players to be best players and now those guys have got the role of the best player and they probably weren't recruited to be that role. And we've really done pretty well to be honest with you but it gets a new role for everybody. It's a new role for families. It's a new pressure. You know before you recruit oats guy or christian brown or guys like the ever program has an a marcus garrett david mccormick if they don't play well and we loser not usually the headlines of what's talked about on social media and now those guys a switch roles and now when they do well they get the credit much deserved but when things go poorly they're also put ourselves out there a little bit and that's that's that's a difference. I think with a lot of players they go through that that that You know they're dealing with and and the pandemic and also be an isolated from families and one one also think about this and you guys know this. I bet you up until this point when you look at all mock drafts and things like that up. Until this point there's been ninety guys that are first rounders and there's thirty picks but because it switches every week is every week if you play if you get to too good games and and even though we don't put that we don't talk about that and we shouldn't cause of a best shouldn't raise on but kids minds and families minds now they're playing or god. I gotta protect something rather than go. Take it and i think that happens a lot. I i think it happens with teams to. You're you're try. You're playing not to lose as a plan to win. And i think sometimes players do that too when when when everything like for instance If a kid ops out. And i'm not. I'm not referring to adjustment duke at all. I don't nothing about this situation. If if if he's being told with worst i can do is go six in the draft. All you can do is hurt yourself. The mindset isn't pry before mindset is. I i don't wanna be twelve and and socie- jichi try to protect something that you don't rightfully own and i i think players go through that highly at least the ones that are playing a lot of the the lines shirt. How much you have this. This conversation with your players individually and collect not much Damn problem probably to a fault I'm i'm very big of being transparent and honest with the guys but there are some things. I don't want them to feel that will. He's you know sometimes players. Can you like for instance when you've done. This is undecided thousand times. We get a better shopping them. What is a player here to your children. You know that. That's what they that's what they hear. And i think at sometimes like that. This situation all coaches are. We want wanna win and they were to win. Your best players have played the best. I mean and so we want all those good things to happen for guys but i think sometimes players misinterpret hey. This is how we need to play. This is how you need to play to give the best in you. The best chance to be successful when maybe sometimes they're doing something totally different from their respective people. We've been really forcing. Our parents have been great all these things but but it is something that goes to all kids minds. i think some success. I think that's so funny. Because i when when my guys were seniors at tacna had Bangor so i met with him separately. First thing that most bothered you and he goes coach. always kissing. Says you're always hard on my ass and your body as a japan. So what was the biggest thing you liked was big drove you crazy. Coach knows abe was your guy and you always ride my ass really really hard so i brought a both together. I said both you guys are screwed up. I can tell you because you didn't hear a damn word i was saying. You only worried about saying it to the other guy. I mean just the way it is. The whole. The whole thing is is is You know you could. You could say and it's probably the same way with us if somebody's being critical your broadcast which i know with youtube. That's probably never occurred but it's but if somebody's being critical and they tell you ten good things. The one thing that you're going to hang on is the one thing and i think players do that all the time too. It's a great the reason we got this basket is because you know david ran the floor. He forced lab trailer to be wide open. You you know you give credits words do but the second you say. Come on come on david. That's not a shot. God thing we can do better now. They got two guys breaks all over. Pass the ball they here. he doesn't want me to shoot at all. We do is be a passer you know so you know how you know how that works so it's like the league is brutal league. The league is berlitz. Probably deeper than it's been in a while when you look when you look at. You went through that rough patch but now that you've got an opportunity to kind of gain some momentum per se. You gotta have to play well you you don't play nearly. You're not gonna quit right trying to get accomplished in the next two weeks. Some of your argument to to to be honest with you told our guys yesterday. I i want them to play with the free his mind that they ever have the have the most on you know we got. We go to k. state. Today we play tomorrow and That's a game that that that You know the rivalry game so it should be a song game and then we got tech in texas and baylor hindered so there's four fun games to play and i'm looking at it like that. You know you know. Here's what at the end You guys have both been through this. And i went through it at or robertson. Tulsa is that it's hard to motivate a team in february. If you don't feel like you have much to place for. I mean i i mean think of think the pandemic can think of a will got. All we got is a conference tournament or whatever at least a conference tournament is everybody hoped to keep playing. and that. But it's hard. When i was little roberts born on the league no conference term you lose an eighteen in row i mean how do you get the guys motivated. You know you you shoot baskets for ice cream after dinner. I mean oh i'm being. I'm being dead serious us So so we've been fortunate. We haven't had to deal with that at kansas much. But to be honest with you we felt the dog days of this year more than we have. You know losing five out of seven and getting home at three thirty in the morning and then and then with the pandemic you you you end up playing and two days later with no prep time and things like that. It's it's just been up. It's been interesting but it's also been good for something. I mean we're playing basketball so it can't be all bad. I mean we'd rather be doing this than anything else. But it's just been a a very unique situation I think that we have more to play for just as much to play for us. We have air every other year. I told our gas the story. But season's done i mean it's done okay. The story beginning still yet to be played out. I mean that's still in play and and even though on paper people may say well they're not one of the top ten or whatever and i would say you're right. We're not right now. You know who knows. I mean two weeks from now this thing could totally flip in a totally flip the other way so i think our guys will be side place last score without question and we're the one team in our league to has mister game. Everybody else's missed four games five games. We haven't missed it so due to covid requirements so we got a chance to hopefully finish strong. And what you everybody else sweat it out. Look to two questions. I wanna follow up and it a coach. Why do you think you haven't missed a game. What what have you done differently. And then the second is you mentioned your teams playing better in your mind. I know fans we all these things but in your mind. What are you doing better Mar ball three defence is much better much better We changed you. Know this whenever you change an offense. Two days before game it's going to suck and and in three weeks later it may look pretty good it s kind of. I think that's kind of where we we we started. We changed our ball screens stuff. I would say three weeks ago. Four weeks ago in a good but with our perimeter quickness and some things that. I thought that that were struggling with that. You know that we thought we could take a couple of things away if we just get good at a couple of things It's gotten better. It's gotten better. So i feel like regarding actions much better. I think we're not boarding plagues as well as we need to. But regarding actions much better so that would be something. I think that gives me reason to believe in hope that we're gonna be playing our best ball book you know. Our defense tasks have not been great. But they need to be great because we're going to go through stretches where we don't score score the ball easily But david mccormick's emergence You know he's averaging basically fifteen a game in league if he can give a sixteen seventeen a going from this point forward you know you can play through a big double a or slow scoring games. Usually you know if you can get to seventy. I think that if got a chance and i do think there's some things going on and we got. We got three guys. That can all stretch at two to three to make shots the same night. But but i think we're capable that are have you go ahead and was gonna ask. What have you done independent. Why do think you guys haven't been affected like us You know. I think as much as anything. It's luck You know i'd like to say that we do everything right. We don't know it gets a slot but but we we are unique in that We've got a dormitory that we're the only ones in there. I mean we're the only ones in there We situation that you can't enter the dorm. You know how much fun is for the player to enter the horn. If you can't get fingerprinted to get in then you can't bring guests We got you know we we. We've we've been able to cheat our players away from the people they love the most your families on road trips and things like that by if they wanna talk they were mask Players afterward goggles and and There was a fifteen minute limit. And you have to be socially distanced in a room. And we have a compliance versus monitoring here. I mean that. I mean i mean so. So it's it's it's almost is not a true bubble by any stretch but it's as close to probably a collegiate bubble as you possibly can and the one game that we did miss. We miss talton early in the season. Because billy had a couple of guys test pasi right with a play but but we've been really fortunate with that and and like baylor you know in in zag early two seasons you know. They're doing everything they possibly can right. But all it takes is just go home for christmas. No christmas dinner in and and You know that could totally wipe team out. Just one player. I'm trying to think. How do i sneak a beer. If i play kansas right now on a saturday elder you could you could do it. You may have to. I don't think that would be. I don't think that would be difficult to do in. I can't imagine that you ever drink during season though. That would be very hard for me to as i as i told. Coach nights saturday after winds on. That's it after wins boss. That's speaking that. What's the craziest thing that you had to go through done. Journey pantheon you didn't you didn't grow a beard out. Not what i did. I did i did. I did it for a little bit. And i realized once it gets past circulated it stops. So that wasn't that wasn't a good book. I actually i actually became kind of a not a grill master. But i got me one of these big traegergrills. I'm a big. And i started cooking all the time i started cooking all time. I read a lot. Not i mean i should say i read a lot. I read a lot about aa investigation. Type thanks a lot. Which was deathly could impact. My life so So i did some of those things. I bought a bicycle And and that that that kick lasts about a month or two that was about it. And then i got a golf simulator So i could ball a. But i haven't really taken advantage of that like i should my handicap whip from nine point five after i used it for a long time so that it really excited much. But but a but yeah. I'm just trying to stay busy. Just try to stay on where cons of martin. On last week we'd side. He has the best beer in college basketball. So i was just now. We try to re evaluate beards. Dockage is trying to beard now. And it just i. I did that you know. I don't know what is called. Just for manor grecian formula whatever it is but i i got i got tired of purchasing it I wear i a little bit too much wine with my with my wife and my stepson and i ended up shaving my damn head and everybody told me it's low maintenance this pain in the ass eyeing ally on your cell phone man. I mean i mean this is the best you ever look. You had that you used to put rubbers stuff on top of your head tar. Don't me we're not talking about me. What did you learn from on the when you read about cba investigations. What'd you learn a Reading about particularly investigation. I was researching books and articles in way. Going way back to maybe some of the shoe worse that have transpired over time but but i never watched I don't think mellberg's name did. Come up i i also you know a a. You know what dan wetzel. I never knew him to be one of the greatest authors of all time. But certainly i read his stuff and everything but no i. It's been it's been interesting. You know that that that whole deal. That we've gone through has been has been something that to be honest with you. I would wish that on anybody Especially the way is played out through the media and things like that but but the whole thing is we can't wait We're looking forward to our our day that we can. Actually you know. Have our have our day in court so It's just been it's been a pain in the ass you know from From a perception standpoint you know with recruiting and whatnot. You know last couple of years when you think you guys have i- timeframe so that you can have some closure so you can move on you get. You can't mention the name you got commitments from should younger players. I mean we've swe signed to you know we signed up. Zac clements k. j. adams and we got one other commitment but I think that you know i. I'm hopeful in the next six months. Something like that. But i i don. I don't know the exact timeframe it could be nine. It could be whatever but certainly we're hopeful that we can get come to a conclusion before we get too far into next year without question. Do you think it's affected your recruit I don't think i know it. Yeah yeah you know the one. The one thing is With this and you know everybody's got obstacles you know. There's a lot of people like to have the obstacles that we have you know You know we still have. We still got as much sell as anybody Based on where we are right. Now you know you always get a kick out of. Somebody's saying they have. The best will be s. The best is in the eye. Of of the percy recruited. What's best him. That's what's best and and But but we check a lot of boxes and we still do. I mean when you talk about our program recruit to our programs but there is something that you have to deal with each family and each kid you have to be honest with them and tell them what's going on and everything and so this thing this thing has has started you know obviously Post trial two two thousand eighteen which puts everybody on notice big time it puts everybody on notice big time and the whole thing is the. The expectations are the expectations of the what is being presented to. The public is worst case scenarios in worst scenarios. He could this happen. Coach were theory in theory is not going to but in theory could i mean that's kind of the way you kinda thin that and it's really that there's there's not really much of a defense you just be honest with them so as it hurt recruiting it's it's It's hurt us tremendously up until this point but we still got enough players coming we still got placed but when people talk about we may not have the elite guys that we've had you know in some years past i would say lose. That may be true as far as you're looking at nba draft boards and things like that. But but we got guys good enough win. We were ranked third country january so we got gas good enough to win so that we get no excuses coach. Did you ever think about resign hailed. See that's the. That's exactly that you know. And i say this was all seriousness. That's exactly the image in and portrayal that's been presented to people. I'm saying we had done anything wrong. Why would i. What would i run from this. I mean i'm not running for miss at all in My is strong. Now's that ever has enormous excited about the futures. i ever have been. We gotta get through this. But that that's the kind of thing that that that you recruits could say based on a big based. I mean what what you asked me was something. Another school would put in people's minds. And and when you when you gotta get hammered that way it's one of those things that Even even if even if it's fifty fifth year close and in that could be something that could sway somebody but to no not not even a thought process not one time in i will not believe data. Think that so yeah. That's why i asked you questions. Because i want you to get the opportunity to get this out there that say hey look you gotta understand something to we. Can't talk about so if you can't talk about it because of the confidentiality things and things like that that basically you you you can kinda be a pin yada a take a lot of hits and you know the outlet is grin and bear it and then if you talk about it a story becomes another story So so now it's my players have been great. This has an effect team at all and it hasn't affected my staff and it hasn't affected me in preparation now. Has it affected my mind as far as maybe a few things on my plate to to to think about instead of Having relaxation and things like that sure deaths but You know that's that's goes for the course we've had a pretty good run here for wrong time and it's this is the the bill of if this is the biggest up we've had You know nobody wants to go through it. But we'll be fine all right last one just walking into the phone with no one in their how strangers at the play game. I think it's strange for everybody. I think it's different levels but that telling just different coach yielding. That shit swayed his four. I i think. I think dan. I don't know if you've played here when jot would johnson the shot you. The place is ridiculous ridiculous. It's ridiculous it. You know the the best home court i've ever been to ever was simply hall in in bloomington was when they had jared jeffries and and Talk we call the what we call we call be called the coverdale because he actually had no d. in his game at all so we call him coverdale. And you had you had five and aj aunts and moya and newton if i'm not mistaken and i'm leaving out horsey. Hey out the the guard. We went there the guards when we went there with sixteen to twenty one from three the guards and they they rocked us. Good when i was villain noyon. And i i told my staff just sat here and said here take it because we got. We got nothing today. That was unbelievable atmosphere. I think ours is like that in. I'm sure it's like that they're more than just that one time but ours. It feels like ours is like that ten times a year. You know we we. We got a unique set up and so two success points. I'm big believer in this. I'm a big believer when momentum's born your way. Let's extend it as long as we can and we're momentum's not we've got to curtail. What do we do whether it be live. Whatever what we do. It's it's when when momentum's not going our way you for granted the reason we curtailed. It was not because of play. A lot of times is because they wouldn't allow to continue There was a there was a way that you're down. Sixty two to fifty two. And you make one basket or one free throw in all of a sudden the places sparked you know where you get your bug beat. The whole game place sparked to appoint work that allowed you to go on a mini rock. We don't have that now. You know we we. We don't have any by. We have to create our own energy. Which i know that other people have to do the same thing. It's not an excuse but we been you know we we. I think we've lost fifteen times since i've since i've been here getting in eighteen years and at and and the whole thing is is the it should be thirty five. It should be forty. You know could. Should be whatever's but the people here hadn't allowed tap so we we don't have that he's had you. I went to the indiana kentucky. Game or the indiana purdue game. I went to a couple a month ago. And i swear to you just having been in that arena for seventeen years. Indiana would have won that game. You know what i mean. I mean. I think it's that what's chris. Exactly what you said man. We're going back and forth but boy that place just bone. There's there's there's a point in time where a little thing the the the you know. It's a two possession game and your opponent can't communicate because the noise level in one guy not execute like they're supposed to do and you come away with nothing as to coming away with too. I mean there's so many little things that can happen With that and then on the flip side we like we've always take the best most pride in playing in full arenas everywhere else because usually in. I know there's other places like this but you know we're we're usually circled a lot of people schedule in our league and things like that so we all of our of our losses that we've had on the road in in our league fifty percent of A accord storm You know which is bad. But it's also god dang they they think enough of us to at least do that. You know what a is kind of like a this past this past week. We fell out of the colts in and Worst team ever fell the polls. And i'm like guys were we've been in the polls for since two thousand nine every single week and in one week we we actually are going through. What the majority of america's going through and But we we just get kind of spoiled here. That's no question about that. It's bad places a magic place man. We we And i don't. I don't wanna bring this up but we were down. You got solved the game. Maybe but we're out fourteen to hugs and they're loaded. I mean they're good. We're down fourteen to hugs and With two forty one left and and you know it's like one guy makes one shot you know next thing you know. God makes another shot in the we end up winning that game but that that doesn't come close to happen if we're not playing here you know your place. Cleveland show smart certain places that like sports. But there's certain places really smart kicked dive out of bounds. Save a ball medic nights your crowd you know because they understand the meaning. Y- you know you know it's you know. One of our best recruiting pitches Even though it doesn't mean anything to a seventeen year old but you know. We're the only school in america that can claim that that that James naismith was your basketball coach. I mean so so there is there is plenty of of Generational pride A that that guys taken in trying to understand the game because they feel like this is kind of it wasn't of here but this is kinda where collegiate basketball was invented so so because a doctor naismith being our first coach a cell. I did one game there. You plan omaha few years ago. And i you guys great. I'll kansas great. But you know. I think omaha has a pretty good mid major team. I think they're gonna be tough to kansas fans. Still kill me by saying omaha was good. I was kansas and waste action those. I'm surprised i'm surprised our fans would ever get over. Any bides get onto nearby. Says he negative about it. I know. I don't know it wasn't even kansas great coach but omaha built for all those people that are killing me. Just remember to tell them i understand. They're killing me. I have a job to do. I wanna know in the fog. And the reason i am retired for life is i remember. I can go back there. The coach oh i bet. Brian statue brought your big state team in here. What year was that. like ninety. furry throw was number one we just lost one hundred points to sonny snits. vcu team at bbc. We flew from california to virginia played. Same day we landed. They beat us by thousand then. We flew that. Next morning. Sunday morning lords play from a big monday game sub reason. They needed a game on monday. 'cause it was off week in league and we freaking game. We had two hundred team. I mean we had a good theme and we sure charge from from a. i'm honored for easter richmond. We founded cheapest tickets possible we stayed how bellman lawrence now the doubletree s now. The doubletree saw van. That was fine. But hey we appreciate. He's talking about greenberg's wins. Yeah but he'll be here all day. Talking about wins he will talk about getting ashby at home by my bowling green tea. Don't wanna talk about that but you'll be renounced by at first. I was alright already. The court set sets like a a guy to plays golf instead of writing down. his score. Writes down. Why push the i would ride into the frapp. I left one in the trap. And i i. I finished up and made the putt. And i made a foul. Like who has put down at the end of the day is if i cast or not and last time i played my boy back. I had walked in kind of cleansing himself in the in the in the water. Tell dan dockage. You'll get baptized coach. Thanks man appreciate season he safe bill. Now break some news. That's that's our lead your question on. Think about quite yeah. I think so taylor absolutely. That's the league is good. Yeah he was really good. Very you guys always get them talking god. You're good easy to talk his people. 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Hour 2: K.C. Johnson & Sam Smith

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Hour 2: K.C. Johnson & Sam Smith

"The first take your take. Podcast is presented by iino the capital one assisted. What's in your wallet? I think your take on. Espn radio the ESPN APP. Siriusxm channel eighty ESPN news. I'm Jason Fitz. Skits started off this hour like we do every hour with headlines that you need to know starts with some encouraging New York News New York Governor Andrew Komo's encouraging major sports teams in the state to plan on reopening without fans as quote hockey basketball baseball. Football whoever can reopen. We're ready willing and able partner. I think this is in the best interest of all people in the best interest of the state of New York so That's obviously one step towards it and next up and the headlines as tweeted out by Barrett Salih State University Systems of Florida are set to reopen campuses in the fall that includes Florida Florida's state. Ucf USF FAU MU and others to put out a press release. Letting everybody know that they're at least looking at every opportunity and they are planning on reopening campuses so yet again this is becomes part of the. What are we gonNA do when some schools are open and others may not be end? Lastly if we are going to reopen and we do get any NBA action. We ever watch Bob in what promises according to him to be a difficult lost of Western Conference playoff contender. Utah Jazz forward. Bojan on Bondoc Bogdonovich. I'm one day I'm going to say. Bogdonovich without stumbling is undergoing season ending surgery on his right wrist. Sources have told. Espn so The injury occurred in January against Indiana. And at this point he's had to undergo surgery so even if the NBA comes back. Bogdonovich will those are the headlines. You need to know I take your take on. Espn RADIO ESPN APP. Siriusxm channel eighty an ESPN NEWS. Espn radio presented by progressive. Insurance says shower seasons sessions. We're going to try this again part of you part concert all from the shower. Grammy winner. Saint Vincent invites up and coming artists to sing sharing get funky all the sound booth of their home. The shower watch now at YouTube dot com slash progressive. Every time. I read that a little weird because let's face it. We're all trying to figure out what everybody else's singing in the shower and as much as I love. Y'All I'm not ready to go there. We are going to keep asking you guys. What athlete or team you want the next last dance. Dr Beyond triple eight say. Espn eight eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven six. You can also tweet me at Jason Fitz. We'll get more your take coming in just a moment but I want to get some expertise on what we've just seen so to do that. We're joined now by Chicago. Tribune Bulls beat writer during the nineties now. Nbc Sports Chicago Bulls Insider. Casey Johnson joins us. Casey thanks so much for your time. I hope you and your safe really appreciate you coming on. Now that the last dance is complete and having been around so much of that especially that second three peat did we get it right in the storytelling of it I mean yeah I mean. There was a lot of tension around that team. The dynasty kind of has a feel for it come into a close and Michael Jordan is a competitive guy. I mean those are all accurate thing on you know I. I did feel like it was more about Jordan documentary both documentary which is absolutely fine. I'm not being critical although the filmmakers You Know Michael. Does Not do a lot of these interviews in one when you get him to cooperate. You GotTa take full advantage of it. And I thought These interviews we're clearly the most compelling aspect of the documentary because it showed who he really is and what we all do he was when we cover those teams back then so yeah. I mean they absolutely. It was accurate there was. It was a good summation of timing impulse history. Okay so much like a Netflix series. That season one and you can't wait for season two. I felt like that's what happened at the very end. Even though we're not getting a season two of this when we find out that at least reinsdorf was open to bringing everybody back for a seventh season when you saw that. What was your reaction? Well my reaction was covered that I mean this is a part of the document has been a little bit. We refer those. Were there that a lot of people are acting like this is all us and that. That's not how we remembered. I mean we. We covered all that. I mean it it. It got surreal. Is this at Tim. Floyd introductory news conference. He was introduced as the director of basketball operations. He was not even introduces the head coach. Because if Phil was GONNA COME BACK. They wanted to leave that option open for him. Now you can call that. Pr Stunt you can call that disingenuous. You can call whatever you want. But that's what happened so It's not that it was not do now. That's it I agree with you. I personally thought. The documentary was going to be more about. The break-up of the dynasty and really community was just last episode panicking not being critical captivating theater for ten hours. Obviously buying the country in the world together at a difficult time for those who are interested in this subject matter but Yeah I certainly think that you could probably do a separate documentary just on you know who's to blame or how it happened or the break-up or what have you but as far as that being new that that's not the case we that was all covered back that we're talking to NBC. Sports Chicago Bulls Insider Casey Johnson. And that's what I think is interesting. Casey is as you mentioned. It was covered in time but we spent so much of the first nine hours. Really Vilifying Jerry. Krause is the one that ripped support but at the end of the day Phil Jackson was offered the opportunity to come back. So how should we view fill knowing that he walked away from coming back to this team? Well I mean that's you know here's the thing everyone wants black and white answers particularly this day and age. There's no black and white answer to this. It was time those around. That team felt that it was time. It'd just had that feeling of finale to it so yes it was offered the opportunity to come back. Did you know you can look at it from fills perspective for multiple in multiple ways number one? He had a theory at uses. Theory with the Lakers. Two this is not just both centric big that a team got tired of your voice after seven seasons. So you should move on. After seven seasons. He stayed nine and Chicago because after the seventh season. They WanNa Championship. He signed consecutive. One season yielded ninety six and ninety seven because he wasn't sure he's GonNa come back even after they won the fifth championship. And so there was that aspect to it and then you know maybe. He walked away because he was tired of being around here. Krause there was surveyed element to that. That relationship had run. Its course so You know there's no there's no black and white answer to this dynasties are hard. For a reason they're hard to keep together for a reason there's a lot of power for personalities and a lot of people need to be on top of their game for a long time I certainly understand you know why Michael wanted to get a chance to to run back and lose it on the court but you know look ownership and management when different direction. Back in ninety eighty. That's that's something but they truly believe it we're not going to NBC. Sports Chicago Bulls insider. Casey Johnson should be noted that he wrote for the Chicago Tribune during this second. Three peat that. We've covered so much. So Casey you you mentioned you guys covered it in the moment. How contentious was this team day in and day out from covering them standpoint? Lucky great question is because that's that's something I want to like. It was not this. That's law it was not like this guy filled filled like awful environment to be around. I mean there were a championship team that went over Sixty Games in an NBA championship. There were plenty of politics of joy and happiness was not like this. You know bitter few that was playing on a daily basis. You know and and I think bill is. There's a lot of credit for that. Because even though he knew that he was leaving he kept. You know the players Focus. That was his great strength is kept the players. Focus on a goal and task. It did it in a mindful and present way. You know that ceremony either that goodbye ceremony that they into the detail. Last night was really beautiful. You know we remember that back then. It wasn't something that came out actually daily coverage but it's came out over time You know that's the fills masterful touch of just getting everybody to feel important and everybody to buy into a common goal so You Know I. I was younger in my career that I was in my late twenties. I might have turned thirty. I'm fifty two now. So you know I always wide-eyed and excited so I I also you can't answer that question without by prison. Which is while. I'm covering sports history as a young reporter for the Chicago Tribune But it was definitely not like this drama-filled ink-filled tension filled a dynamic every day. That that's just not the case. We're talking to NBC. Sports Chicago Bulls inside of Casey Johnson. And you mentioned the prisonment and I go back to my life at that point watching all of these games and you know having so much phantom involved in it when I watched the documentary back. I don't know if it's just great filmmaking. Or if it's the way things went down it just felt like we were constantly watching the Bulls in a tight game with four seconds left and they always want them. So I asked you that because it in the world where we look back at the record of the Bulls and how dominant they were night in and night out. How dominant was this team on the floor? Well I mean they seventy three games one season and when six in the finals and in that first three feet I believe when eight and two in the road in the finals which is almost unheard of over those three finals. So I mean obviously very very dominant They did this buzzer beater. But I actually thought that was my favorite scene really. It's a small team but that was my favorite team in the entire ten hours was when Reggie Miller hit that game winner in game. Four of the ninety eight conference finals and Larry Bird just completely expressionless because you know why greatness recognizes greatness and he knew there was one point one seconds left on that clock and Jordan. Almost miraculously double-pump Three pointer in that game for into me. What was usually their toughest test in that? Second Three P. Ninety Eight conference. Finals was really in the balance even in game seven back in Chicago so I loved that scene I love you know in Jordan. Actually business every once in a while but He obviously made a lot more than you bet. Well and I and I get the dominance in the record and of course that question. I think what is stunning to me is the concept of as Reggie Miller Championship. Dna is just championship DNA but to see time and time and time again them have the ability to win that game on that last shot. What was the key for that? Was that Michael thing was like what was the key for them. Always seeming to find a way to win these incredibly close games year in year out. Here's the thing about dynasties. The reason they happen if because a lot of people are really really really good at their jobs at the same time so. I'm not trying to evade the question. 'cause I but it's again about layered answer to me Jerry Krause really good at his job field Jackson really good at his job Michael Jordan. Probably your best service jobs Scottie Pippen really good job and on and on and on so the reason that DNA which I agree exactly good question because so many people were on point at the same time over a locker. Time to be yeah. I'm not trying to be cliche or a question. I just say it was a multilayer aspect to it. It speaks to leadership structure that Jerry reinsdorf interior crowds put in place and it's still enacted in his unique way and it's for the greatest competitor to me in in sports history in Michael Jordan and everybody following his lead. So you've got Jerry Krause and Jerry Reinsdorf who've done an amazing job putting this team together as much as Jerry. Krause was the villain of this thing. We have to remember that he put this roster together time in and time and time and time again. What stunning to me is not we have Michael Jordan. The team-owner point do we look at Michael Jordan? The team owner and just wonder why the the version we saw Michael Jordan in the last dance hasn't translated to any success from a team ownership standpoint. I'll just like you know as I said before. It doesn't do many interviews novel one thing I've always look I would. I would love it. A current journalists. You know asked him. What his view of Jerry Krause? Now he's sat in that chair. I mean it's not an easy job. Phil Jackson Team President in the Knicks. Not An easy job You don't feel acknowledged Jerry introductory news conference in New York and said that that's a model that he was gonna you know he would like to emulate so that to me was like out to to Jerry back then but you know Michael You know has to tonight bias. The Nation have a greater appreciation. For what Jerry Krause. You know having sat in that chair when pass in two thousand seventeen. I was still at the Tribune. I reached out to Michael's Publicist Michael provided a nice statement about Jerry's impact on Chicago sports so that was obviously a nice gesture. Michael to acknowledge Jerry's passing in two thousand seventeen but yeah it's a hard job and You know he jerry krause inherited Michael Jordan. There's no getting around that but I always like to say you quit the frame on. Lisa did it and really expert fashion. That is beautifully stated. I'm GonNa Steal that everytime I talked to my friends about it in the future Casey. We really appreciate your insight on this. Thanks so much for taking the time and giving us some insight from so many different perspectives around it. Thank you from the same on. Nbc Sports Chicago Bulls Insider Casey Johnson With the straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless. We're going to keep the straight talk coming and it comes in the form of Bj. Armstrong joined I take today and talked about his impression of the last answer. Finale and the Bulls second three peat. This is what he said when he joined Maxon. Stephen A. He wasn't a bully and In what I can get in I can understand how they could be perceived that way especially from the outside looking in. It was very clear when you play with him You lock wounds that you have your full commitment you know not only coming to practice and during the things and sander things your words your actions and your behavior had to be inside those lines and he wanted to make sure that we all wanted to make sure that I can tell you. Especially on the first three peat is that we were all committed to this process and the theme. You know. They really didn't touch on. And I think every guy that played on those teams with would understand. Is We police ourselves? We were very physically We were team physically but mentally. We are very strong group and we police ourselves. Everyone understood what we had to do. We're constantly constantly challenging ourselves so he wasn't only absence the but I could see how people could say that because he was the best player. That camera was always want him. But one thing that we can say about Michael Jordan. Not only could he dish out he could take it. He was very very mentally. Talk that way and We respected that about him. He he was spotted at about us but he had to make sure. Because are we knew what we had to do if we're going to be crowned champions. Pj I want to ask you a personal question. I haven't heard you answer. Yeah obviously you're a huge part of that first three peat and then not being there for that. Second Three peat. How much did you think about that? What you know. I knew in particular two guys. They're Scotty Michael. And that was. I was really happy for those guys. Because you know what you know what goes through the process. The thing that I was most impressed with those guys were joining in particular. Michael was Michael. Had to reinvent himself you know. He wasn't the same player physically with the last three that he was in the first three the first he was physically dominating incredible athlete. Who just had the energy was just. He was just the you know he was just like a a force of nature. The second three you know mentally I think was probably the most challenging for him because he had to find a way to get the results that he wanted to do it in a in a different way so I think both of those opportunities presented different challenges for him but really watching him in the way he was able to do it because he had really reinvent the holly play things he was doing. He shooting fadeaway jump shots in the second. Three he was basically Six six center. He played the game below the free. Throw Line Scotty. Became more of a facilitator even more so than it was in the first three. You really had to manage the game so I thought that was the genius part of how they were able to construct. That team around really. Michael was at physically and mentally as a player and get the same result. So you know Bravo to those guys because it takes a toll on you on your body the plate let alone be able to go into that Jeff. Every single year in the And going into the how long they going into the playoffs? So give those guys credit for being able to do that and figuring it out. Bj No one have. The game was played back then. And knowing what you know about the game today along with today's players How do you who do you think would have excelled in the previous era the Jordan era? When you look at today's play at no matter no matter what. Who Do you think would have? It sells well. You know it's your player your your player and you know. I don't care what error you are but you know there are a few. I think about that all the time and one of the players I think would excel. Moss in that era would be Klay Thompson Klay Thompson. I think is equipped to play in that era because of the way he played. He's a big guard off the he has just a cavity of the game and he played the game in the way that they all play. You know you ran plays to God had to provide space and you had to be able to take your matchup. I think he was big enough to take that matchup. Every single night I just think he would be a player that would fit into that air beautifully because the how how he plays the game now I think it translates but you know what obvious what I think the obvious you know. You're not Lebron James. You look at Kawhi Leonard. Look at these guys but Klay Thompson to be is a player that I say you know what? He was a total typical to guard. That would fit very nicely into that the way they played the game back. That's some straight talk straight. Talk wireless everything for less only at. Walmart. We're getting the straight talk from you guys if you could see the last dance documentary athlete. What would it be? Who would be can in Florida? What's your take on this one I believe the Edmonton oilers of the mid to late? Eighties love to see something about How that owner had to dissolve that team because economics. I think that's a great call especially if you're tied in to to obviously Gretzky going to L. A. And what it meant for the Kings so you know I've had a few tweets on Gretzky following Gretzky from Edmonton to La would be the ultimate because again you're talking about a level of star power. You're talking about a level of behind the scenes. You're talking about a level of things that we haven't necessarily seen before. I think all of that together make sense for. Why would work really well together? Keefer in New Hampshire Keefer. What's your take on this? What do you want to see last documentary about the buffalo bills going to fourth grade Super Bowls? Not What are Glutton for punishment? My friend in London for punishment I know but just imagine like what what it would be like like especially that four super bowl after going to three and then go into that fourth one just imagine what they went through like in the locker room. The stuff I'm not crazy. Look I think it's great idea if you could get it behind the scenes if there was any footage of that and that's one thing that I think we're starting to realize look. The last dance was partially about the great footage. We have from Jordan's team following him everywhere but one of the things that made it truly special in storytelling to me was looking back at some of earlier games that we don't even think about that are still out there. You know game footage and the behind the scenes station in miked up footage. I think we're GONNA see more and more. People are looking back into the archives to find new and imaginative ways to show US classic games. At least I hope that's what we see speaking of things that we'll see we're gonNA take more your take who you want to see the next last dance on plus someone you saw throughout the last dance documentary. GonNa Join US next I take your take on. Espn radio the ESPN APP. Siriusxm channel eighty an ESPN news. 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I want to ask you directly now that you've seen the entire doc documentary. How do you feel about the way that you particularly were portrayed in this Well my only concern was his Jordan. Kept getting involved in on my On my airtime could've spent a little more time on my sitting in Michael Jordan's world you could see we're all just asteroid flying around around On and offer his benefit one way or another but It was sort of surprised. Actually I mean no. I was involved early on but I told somebody I said you know. I've kind of in the same place for a long time in the circus came back to my front doors. Just open it up and they were again It was great. Great to look back. You know to have people Fans and appreciation for me for that era and I think that you know the the lightning part of it for so many even Chicago. People who saw this city really have a great field for all the internal behind the scenes Behind the curtain. Kind of stuff. That was daily life for all of us. And you know I chronicles some in the Jordan rules book in Nineteen ninety-one but you know how that transpired throughout the nineties. And how this team amidst all this incredible celebrity and bizarre behavior Rodman and stuff and everything and how coalesce to be continued to be a success year after year it was. I think it was just an eye opening story for even people who the story. We're talking to New York Times bestselling author of the Jordan Rules Sam Smith and that's a great point. Sam In one really leads me to a thought line for this. We live in a world. Now where social media really impacts the coverage of every sport but particularly with the NBA if social media had existed. What effect would that have had on a team? That was as big personality wise. That had the conflict behind the scenes at the Bulls had. I don't think it would have been really tremendously different. I just think there would have been so much. Even more discussion. Debate one-sided getting people on Social Media Because so many people have voices who didn't have voices before Can Express them. And so there'd be so much positive negative observation but still at scene where it came down to essentially is and then succeeding if they had not succeeded to that level. That never would have been not only that team. But it wouldn't have been discussed to that you know to that Maximum effect so often so It just would've been it just would've enhanced. The personalities is more it. That's possible and those are remarkable personalities and. I showed it affect the things that went on. Rodman himself up. Remember that seen walking down Michigan Avenue in his wedding. Dresses is actually going on. You know it's hard to communicate with Robin under the best of circumstances and so we've been turned out. He was marrying himself for a book emotion. And and so this kind of this kind of stuff like daily kind of behavior. Dentist took off many times on things. We saw the wrestling thing and I think it was South Carolina during the finals where he just sorta hopped off but almost every time we go in the Philadelphia. He's disappeared being Atlantic City. Next Day. You know so it would it? Would it would just then you just mathematically to the empower but but it's been a remarkable you know continuing story because of the success and that's what it comes down to willing you mentioned giving an additional voice. Craig Hodges has been pretty loud that he thinks that Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen some of those guys were portrayed poorly or were treated poorly during that time. You were around this team. What was sort of the sense of relationship between those guys and Michael? Michael came out if you were you know all these years and and and and actually not not that I needed had a great crew. It's Toggle Tribune. Life to two thousand eight and written several books you know since the Jordan roles and I right on the bulbs website so Info for most of the time. Mike and Michael had gone reclusive basically the last two decades. The notion was often that he was depicted in accurately or unfairly and wasn't quite this Dictator that and then and now he's come out in this thing and said well. Yeah of course I was. That's the way I treated people and that the notion is that's what leadership is about with that. That's that's you know. That's what you need to win or whether his leadership may not be different from Magic's view which was successful in his way too but you know Michael's narrative that's that's what I felt I needed to do and You know so. So those issues existed. You know with those guys at the time. Documentary didn't make clear And expressed his frustrations but in effect. It was the timing of all these things. Because when Jordan came along in their personality beginning it was a veteran group and so the ownership took over ownership change in book enjoyed his year in the middle of his rookie year and then announce it back then like they do now but they basically did a tanking thing except they did it with you know Michael Jordan as a frontman so like your out in break up the rolling stones and Mick Jagger stays and then you get a bunch of street musicians to the background so Michael is drawing the attention. While management is basically getting rid of the high level players they had higher level but future picks which became grant and Pippen and Armstrong. And all these guys who run the championship team. So Michael grows frustrated all these years trying to compete with bird and magic and eighty six eighty six eighty seven eighty eight and so now. He's he's six seven years into his career and playing with his kids. So you know. He's sort of the adult in the room. Frustrated competitive compulsive behaviors and so pushing these guys a lot harder than than perhaps normal that they've been on the same plane then when he leaves and come back with the celebrity had it's a whole new group of people and basically guys who are virtually out of the NBA. Steve Kerr till he was going to go to play. China is ending about over had been Italy. And so they not sorta scrapping since there who Michael leaving no so again he said I had to take control of you. Know SORTA hurting cats in a way and so you know with Michaels and I wasn't used this to me being around him all the time it was it was sort of fun challenging nature and and. I think that's come through to and so those guys had each other all the time and I don't I don't feel that. They suffered particularly under his rap on a general in general basis. But you know it. It was a challenge that showed you know their high level of character that they rose to it and he wasn't going to be able to intimidate him. We're not going to see him. Smith author of the Jordan rules so Y with all of that context about what he's went through as a player and seeing the different ownership. Why has Michael Jordan in your mind not been able to translate what he watched the Bulls do as a team into his own career as an owner of a team in the NBA? Pretty simple shout everything. Mike go achieve basically was through his his efforts. You know and he he is the probably the great you know it's an arbitrary thing greatest player but okay say we say is the greatest player That was him at the end again. I mean that's the end of the UTAH. Game was the perfect the perfect day my as it were inclusion of career. It's great he didn't play. You know you can back with The Washington. We sort of get that in some respect. But it's great that he didn't play again with the Bulls because look what he did down the stretch on offense and defense they didn't show the whole sequence and Bob Costas mention somebody but there was this. You know offense. Defense Intelligence Awareness So many elements that that sort of summed up his entire career and why he was so why he was so special and why he transcended so many other players and he did all these things basically over a minute in time and and so you know he could do it. He could put his finger on it and he could change reality by what he did. When you become an owner. You know manager like he did I would Washington he was the GM actually You can't do it yourself. And so it really. It justified. What the Bulls were doing and holding off against it and it was very unpopular for Jerry. Krause obviously come through in a of documentary and Bulls organizations to have the five Michael all those years but back in the eight. That Michael Michael Michael Frustrating late eighties young players being brought in and all that so he. He's lobbying doesn't want granted picking on the teen he wants. Buck Williams. Walter Davis to veterans. You know guys were also level players. Acc which helps And he's urging management to get rid of all these guys management holding off and no. You don't win that way. Want Bill Cartwright he wants to spend on. This team is protector against the Pistons. Bill is not that kind of guy but those are the elements you needed to build a team so the coaching staff and management together because Phil Jackson and then Collins. Lots of with those tens actions too you know. They're they're all holding off. Michael becoming honorary GM. Now you've got the final word and and the fact is I think because of his wanting to have things happen so quickly he's impatient there's an owner and an an an executive and just wasn't wasn't great at building thing as he would have been if the Bulls Impala what he wanted his recommendations when he was a player and to their credit. They didn't and and he he's prospered as well and came around to admit as he admits to Jerry Reinsdorf now when they sit on the Board of governors meeting lending team. I know he this to them. Running the team is a lot harder than I thought it would be. I think given sort of apologies to them in some respects you can follow him on twitter at Sam Smith. Hoops obviously check out the Jordan rules. Sam We really appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us today. Next for the extra insight okay. Good to talk to you. Oh man just just great insight on it and what? He says the the end really incredible that he's actually come out and admitted it wasn't an easy. It's the one of the most difficult things do is to figure out legacy. And how we're going to Byu Jerry crafts all of this. He's the person that built it. But he's also the person that dismantled it we're going to keep taking your take. What athlete our team do you? WanNa see the next last dance type documentary to be on. Plus we'll continue our MBA primetime Blair countless. Who's at number ten? You'll find out next I take your take on. Espn RADIO REGULAR-SEASON MVP is never To be the best the best to ever played a game as motivating which telling down. Mba BEST BACK. Take prompt top players. It's pretty interesting each day. The Beta player from top fifty ranked porn. Espn NBA experts. Who WHO's out full number one? You'll know I'll have something to say about all this prostate. Nba Prop top players. Monday through Friday at ten. Am EASTERN ON ESPN. Well if they're giving you prime players that we're going to react to him I take your take on. Espn news we continue the time play ranking. Let's find out who came in at number ten the tenth player. I take primetime players. Nba Ranking Nikolai. Yokich forty triple doubles ranked ten in NBA. History Joker tells it again with another nifty time trial chocolate. Y'All your kiss leads. Denver and total points assists and rebounds. This season something. He's done each of the last two seasons Nikolai Yokich. I take your take on. Espn news so Yokich is in number five so obvious and number ten obviously lose the pricing to me. I'm surprised that maybe it's just lack of love. We give the nuggets interested to see what the rest of this list goes but the nuggets are team that we don't get enough credit to yoke feels like the type of player that we don't get enough love to. I don't know why there isn't more marketable S- spell for him. I don't know why he doesn't get more love. You can continue to listen to that all week by the way they'll continue to break down the top ten players. We're going to get the rest of that list this week. If you missed the second hour today show go check it out. It's on demand and the first take your podcast brought to you by capital one capital one. You can open new checking or savings account Nafisa minimums welcome to banking reimagined. What's in your wallet approval required Capital One and a member? Fdic we're presented by progressive insurance. Let's get your take. Who Do you want to see the next last last? Dance documentary on Chewing California gives us. What's my friend? Oh Hey what's going on Dude I would like to see the big red machine the team of the decade of the eighties. All through that seventies year They have a bevy of all stars. We can go down the list and start naming on that club Let alone. They had what was called the great eight which I believe in the eight starters in a stretch of eighty eight games. They went sixty nine and nineteen They were probably one of the greatest. If not degraded baseball team ever assembled for you know for a decade dominated the National League plus it might give us some insight on Pete rose and what was going on with him and how it was playing with him. I know him Johnny Bench ripping and their hall of fame manager sparky Anderson Golf Ball. So that that's the Phil Jackson. I think we've got the makings something very similar here. Look I I like a lot of what you're saying there for that one. Although if we'RE GONNA PICK DRAMATIC YEARS IN BASEBALL. I've had several tweets for the eight as you get a little bit of the you know the smash brothers. Maybe some steroid controversy you Hernandez there's a lot of good from that one is well. It's part of what's interesting is trying to find the right pinpoint the right time to look back towards and look back to. I think part of what we have to look back at is the insight that you gain in seeing all of this. You get the opportunity to learn so much more behind the curtain. Like we've learned so much more about not just Michael Jordan but the entire bull's team how many people felt like they came away from episode nine connected at a different level to Steve Kerr. That's what made this thing so incredible. It wasn't just about Jordan. Although much of the coverage was it was much of it was the curtain and everybody else. Thanks for hanging out with us today.

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All-Star Game Mock Draft

Warriors Off-Court

21:01 min | 2 years ago

All-Star Game Mock Draft

"Welcome to the fourteenth episode of season. Two of warriors off court. The San Francisco Chronicle's MBA podcast. I'm your host warriors beat Radyr Connor Laterna. And today, I'm joined by sports calmest. Bruce Jenkins to do an all-star game mock draft on Tuesday afternoon after a rare sporting green staff meeting, Bruce I've ventured down to the bows of the chronicle newsroom to make our picks. I am king Kaufman. And I want to give you a heads up about the near future. When we're going to be talking about the past and shoes your century. Not your century is a new podcast from the San Francisco Chronicle where we'll celebrate the news and the newspapers of days gone by subscribed to not your century from the San Francisco Chronicle wherever you get your podcasts. Bruce. I appreciate you. Joining me or should I call you Brian? Today's a fun day where we're kind of switching up the pot a little bit. Obviously, I'm wears off court. I usually sit down with a player coach we kind of discussed the state of the team. But this week we thought it'd be fun to do something a little bit different, Bruce. You did this last year with with my old boss janey, Hugh, and Scott Osler? We thought we'd bring it back or doing a mock draft of the all star game draft, and this is a little bit more realistic this year because we're actually going to see the draft last year. There was a bunch of hullabaloo over the fact that no one actually got to got to see the draft and people wanted to actually see it. So it will be on TNT this Thursday. So I know I'll be trying to tune into that, I'm guessing you will too. And I wanna see how accurate we are. So we figured that to keep with his accuracy point that we wanted to. To to delineate it. So that you were LeBron because you're of Wiley vet, and I am Jaanus. I still have trouble saying that. Janas onto the Kupa of the bucks because I guess I'm kinda the young hopefully up and coming guy at the chronicle, and we just did a we just did a coin flip and I want. So do you have any thoughts before we get into this just about the draft in the format of it? Well, I think it's great that they're televising it why there was so much secrecy last year. There was way too much paranoia. I think next year they gotta go a step farther and have it on court on the day of the game. Everybody's out there. Standing around the two captains they're just like on the playground. I got you. You'd pick the next guy might get a little embarrassing for that last guy. But too bad. They're all stars. And it's all in good fun. But anyway, the way they're doing it is fun, and we'll try to reenact that here. Yeah. And you know, the big debate over that is, oh, well, what does that last guy? I don't feel bad for that. Last guy in the game. It's like the ngelo Russell. You know, you're you're still making millions of dollars. You're still in the NBA. No one's gonna feel had free case. He's lucky to even be there as a substitute for deep. I was honestly shocked that he was slag yet. I mean, you look at the five biggest snubs, and I don't even think he was on that. No. I didn't have. Yeah. So the way this is going to go we're going to do it the way they're going to do it on Thursday. We're gonna take turns. And then we're going to start with the starters, which pool of eight guys because I was and I represent two of the ten and then we're gonna hit the reserves. And then we also have the special roster additions in Dirk Nowitzki, and Dwayne Wade a cool thing the leak did giving them invites to kind of commemorate what many believe will be their last season's. It's definitely Dwayne Wade's were not one hundred percent sure about Dirk. But I'm guessing it's probably his last. He might wanna come back. Now, they have porzingas coming in with Don-Shik. So the whole European thing. Yeah. But for for the purposes of of the draft that they're under the belief that lasts, right? So I guess I'm going I, and you know, I should say I'm doing this based off my personal preference is trying to be honest. I'm not trying to think like you honest. I'm doing it based off what I would do if I was honest, and he's already said he's going to take Steph number one if he can. And honestly, I agree with him. I think that's great move. So I'm gonna take Steph curry with my number one big. Okay. And we're we'll we'll explain a little bit just to kind of get into. I think you gotta take Steph because the guy was the one of the two team captains last year. He's the greatest shooter in MBA history. I think you pair him along Agawam. She's the best slasher the league. That's a great combo. All I can say as you stole him from me on the coin flip there. I was gonna take Steph, but I'm gonna counter with Durant. Lebron Durant here. I hear why Durant. Well, he's just he's just so such a uniquely unstoppable player as we see here. Every warriors game. There's so many great choices here. But when you take curry I have to counter with an unstoppable shooter. And he is number one guy in line there. Okay. That's for my second pick. I'm going to go with Joel Embiid. We got the best shooter in the world got the best slash for the world. Now, I want the most skilled big man in the world. And Joel Embiid, you know, obviously, not including Anthony Davis here who, you know, there's a lot of talk about recently because he he's also in the reserves isn't eligible right now, but Embiid has had an MVP level season. I think he's a generational talent. I think he's a more skilled version of Patrick Ewing, which is high praise. And so I'm gonna take him. Yeah. That's that's a great choice. They're very very hard to disagree with that. I'm going to shake things up here a little bit. I'm gonna draft Kyrie Irving. This is very interesting because career having left LeBron's Cleveland Cavaliers making it very public that he wanted to get a team on his own. He was didn't like being LeBron shadow. Apparently they reconciled lately, it's fueled. A lot of speculation of maybe kirie will go and play for the Lakers. But in any case, I wanna get people talking. So I'm going to go kyri here for my number two guy. Okay. I like that. I like that. I think kyri is underrated which might be. So he's perfect for the all star games. Amazing. Yeah. My next pick. This is tough. We got we have hard, and we have George, and we have Leonard and we have Walker left. All those are great. But I gotta go quite Leonard. He's been phenomenal with Toronto the season. I think anyone doubted how you'd come back from that quad injury. He's he's silenced. Any of those critics, and he's just to me and all world talent that that deserves to be along the greatness that is Steph and Janas and an MBA. Oh. That's great. I your your your picks are flawless as far as I'm concerned for my third guy. I'm gonna need some size here. I you Paul George is having an unbelievable year in Oklahoma City. He made his proven to be a fantastic choice to stay there. Play with Westbrook. Those two are like brothers. Now that team is really got something going and Georgia's numbers when you look at them or pretty astounding. So I'd have no problem taking him to me. He's the defensive player of the year front runner. I would think so he's been doing it on both ends. So that's a great pick. I I gotta go from an expert. I gotta go James harden. And I mean, isn't it kinda crazy that it's lasted is taken this long to get to the MVP. I wonder I would pick him last. I just he's amazing. But I I've read your call. I'm I'm led to believe that you're not the biggest fan. I think you've written that he's ruining MBA. Well, they're trying but nobody he's not changing the NBA. Nobody's going to adopt that style. I love Kobe. Bryant said today or yesterday that vault one one one guy dominating the ball win a championship? But all credit. I mean, he's like wilt as score you have to be completely blown away by what he's doing. Yeah. So I got to go with him because he's just more talented than the other guy on the board in my opinion. Sure. Well, that leaves me with Kimba Walker who I'm happy to have. He's the game is in starlet. He's the star of the team. He's a class act. He scoring like crazy. I don't have a real. I might have to put Durant at center the way it's looking here. I have no counter to Embiid. That's for certain. But that's going around out my starting five. Yeah. So mice just to recap here. My starters are Jaanus curry, quiet, Leonard Joel Embiid, and James harden, I'm pretty happy with that group. You can play hard enough the ball, and you have pretty much all the possess. You know there. I'm gonna play probably play myself Janas at power forward. Quiet small forward. What about you? Yeah. As lebron. I'll be up front with Durant and Paul George. I I love it. Maybe not the biggest you've ever seen. But it's going to work at Kyran Kemba Walker. I think is a great combination carry with phenomenal handle and Kemba can score from anywhere. So that's going to be good. Now, we're onto the reserves now, let's just recap real quick. Who who we have on the reserves? It's a a wide ranging crew. Some a lot of talent here. We got lamarcus Aldridge, Bradley Beal, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, Nikolai Yokich, Damian Lillard coury, Chris Middleton, Ben Simmons, Klay Thompson. Karl Anthony towns nickel LUSA vich Russell Westbrook and Deandra wrestle. So we got a lot of town to pick from looking at this list. I gotta go with Anthony Davis. I'm going to start with Anthony Davis. I I just think he's so skilled I think he's a starting caliber player that that obviously fell to the reserve. So I think I'm lucky to have him as my first guy off the bench every pick. You've made. I'm like dang it the leadership. Now, you've got you've got Embiid. Anthony Davis at the centers. You've got by far the probably by far the two centres. I'm gonna I won't say anything, I'm going with clay. I don't want him to down to low. I I love play Thompson. I think he's value is really. Even more coming to the fore with the warriors this year. I think they need to sign him like yesterday, whatever he wants his he's improving in every way. And he's just he's he's such a local favorite, and you know, tremendous tremendous shooter who I think is a perfect guy for any all star game. I like that pick a little bit earlier than a lot of people might have had on their mock. I respect the pig. I wanted to come up. I think he's super underrated. In a lot of ways. I think he's underappreciated. I will go with Damian Lillard of lasers. Kevin Durant set a couple of weeks ago when the when the boys played the blazers that Damian Lillard is a hall of fame talent. And I totally agree with them never make the hall of fame just because he's not on a winning enough team. But he is that level of player. He's the only player in the league that can hit thirty footers like it's nothing outside of Steph curry absolute and he's a true game changer doubt. I I will take deeming. He's a teaser, Jim. Well, I gotta get my center position taken care of and with apologies to Karl Anthony towns, which I'm gonna go with the coal yoke. Choose having a phenomenal season. All he's going to want to do. He's not gonna he can't start for me. But who being there nice and early and he's just going to be passing off? He's one of the best passing centers. We've ever seen without a doubt, and he'll be dealing to all my high-scoring guys. So how put him in there right here. I mean that to take a another MVP candidate with your second pick of the reserves that just shows you how deep this league. Is right now, I think that the talent level in this league from an individual basis is as good as ever been which is all star games. I totally agree. I mean, you as far back as I go the first seven or eight guys on each team were obviously epic. And then it kind of they're all great. But it was a little bit of a drop off. But now, I mean, you look at some of the guys that we're going to be picking near the end. And there is just tremendous talent. So so next I'm going to go with I know, I know it's another I guess point guard, but I'm gonna go with Russell Westbrook. And he's a guy that can play off the ball if he needs to he's so skilled so'dynamic offensively. He's had a little bit of a down year by his standard. Which is why he's a reserve. But this is a guy who a former MVP he's doing what he needs to do for the for the thunder to be one of the best teams in the west. So good one. I'm gonna counter with Ben Simmons. This is going to be a wide open game as they always are up and down the floor featuring phenomenal passing and Ben Simmons live to throw the mind-blowing pass. He's a great dunker. He'll put on a great show. Nobody's gonna ask him to shoot three pointer. Which is about the only thing that he doesn't do because I'm pretty well covered there. So that's my pick here. So it's getting harder. Now. Now, I think we've picked all the guys who are truly. I think every name we've we've mentioned is a starting level caliber player the rest of these guys are definitely are deserving of being all-stars, but it's a little harder to differentiate who who to take. So. I'm gonna go just because I just drafted two point guards. I wanna switch it up. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Karl Anthony towns through all the drama. That's coming out of Minnesota the season. He's been kind of a stabilizing force. He also in my opinion, is is a generational talent. Who is going to be you know in this all star game for years to come. So I'm gonna go Anthony towns. Well, I think looking here putting personal favorites ahead of need. I really like, Bradley Beal. I really wish he'd be traded from Washington. He's a absolute pure score class act love watching him play. And now the John wells out for the next sixteen years or whatever with achilles tendon. He's he's more on an island than ever in Washington. But he's I've always liked Beal. And I'm going to lock him up right here. All right next. I'm going to go with Chris middle's, Chris Middleton from the bucks. He's the first time all star very deserving been a really nice compliment to Jaanus. I also think it'll be cool myself being honest to have teammate from the bucks on the same roster. We gotta go with Chris Middleton. He is he is we keep using the word. Underrated. But I feel like he is not appreciated enough. He's been a great player in this league for a long time. And it was really cool to see him finally getting all star selection this year. Definitely, well, I'm gonna need a backup center, and I'm going to go with lamarcus Aldridge here. He's he's really strictly power for. But he's been playing technically center for San Antonio dumped the ball into the post to him. He's an old school scorer from there. Which I think it'd be a refreshing element to have on my team. So have no problem putting Aldridge in there. I'm gonna go with Blake Griffin next kind of polarizing player, but silent quietly has had a really nice season for Detroit. He's averaging twenty six points eight point two rebounds per game shooting. You know, not great numbers shooting solid numbers. And for a while early in the in this season, he kept to trick relevant which in Detroit, in my opinion is not a very talented team. So I gotta go with. Yeah. That's a good pick. He likes to put on a show to in a game. Like this. He could do some mind blowing things I'm going to go with Kyle Lowry here for my pick. Interestingly I saw it's just a rumor, but with the trade deadline coming up I've seen his name mentioned I in in trade rumors from Toronto. I know he wasn't happy when they traded derozen. He's was publicly speaking out and not not so much against Jerry the GM, but they don't seem to be big buddies or anything like that. He's not crazy about being in Toronto. So it's a little bit of transition time for him. He's going to have some things to prove when he gets out there. So I'm gonna go with Lowry. Next. I'm going to go with Nikola Busa vich who is the definition of a guy who if he was on a better team, you'd hear a lot more about he's he's one of the more skilled talented big men in this league is just that he's in that wasteland of Orlando. So yeah, he's just kind of he's kind of not doesn't have the name recognition that maybe ship, but the guys averaging twenty point seven points, twelve rebounds per game and one point two blocks so very deserving. I believe he's the first time all stars and very deserving of that selection. Well, neither one of us wanted to take the ngelo Russell. And unfortunately, I'm stuck with him here in the last pick. He has resurrected his reputation in Brooklyn. We'll say that when the Lakers let him go. I thought that was that was a good thing. I didn't see him as any kind of leader or great point guard. He's moving toward that is numbers are good. I still a little bit skeptical, but I don't have a choice here. So welcome to the club there Dangelo. I'm LeBron James. And then we have the special roster additions and Dirk Nowitzki and Dwayne way between those two I love Dirk appreciate everything's done for the game. But I gotta go for with Dwayne Wade just because he's real a contributor. He's still helpful member of team. He's you know, he's not Dwayne Wade of old guys still averaging thirteen point eight points four point three s he's still looks like he could be playing in the league for years to come. If he wanted to whereas Dirk, you know is still kicking a forty years old. I believe, but he's he's just not much of a help to team at this point. No, no, you and you still see wait on the highlights doing very weighed like things. So I'll ask Dirk to come in. And do a couple of step back thirty eight footers and through the cracks. And if one of them goes in it's going to bring down the house. So there you go. Okay. So to recap my team Jon Janas team, we have myself Jaanus, Steph curry, quiet, Leonard to bead. James harden, my starters, and then my reserves are Anthony Davis, Damian Lillard Russell Westbrook. Karl Anthony towns Chris Middleton, Blake Griffin Nikolov vich and Dwayne wit. Okay. I'm LeBron James, and I'm taking Kevin Durant. Kyrie Irving, Paul George and Kimba Walker. That's the starting lineup my backups or Klay Thompson Nicola Yokich. Ben Simmons, Bradley Beal, lamarcus Aldridge, Carl Lori and de ngelo Russell with Dirk Nowitzki. My what ceremonial pick. Okay. Okay. It looks like we have a nice balance of big as I think we both have speed. I think we both have silted. Peters. I think this is a pretty even match it. Yeah. I I'm envious of your team. But the more I look at mine, I think it could hang definitely hang. And we know when it comes to all star. It's just a matter of like if if you care at all so do my guys care more than your guys, right? Yeah. I have a feeling that come Thursday. We're going to be seeing a pretty similar draft order. I think these a lot of sense, Bruce. I really appreciate common. It's always fun to have you on the pot until he's fun to read your stuff on the warriors. Thanks. It's going to be fun to be holding. Our lists is the actual picks get made and see close we came to. 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Hour 1: What is the truth

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Hour 1: What is the truth

"Welcome to Spain and Fitz podcast. I guess Kyrie Irving was listening to the show yesterday. He must have been listening. I realized that we're on just before his game started. But I think he might have had his head bones in jamming into Spain and Fitz yesterday because it seems like he finally listened to someone and that someone that's me Spain fits there's Jason Fitz on ESPN radio ESPN app and Sirius XM channel eighty and Fitz since you were out yesterday. I'm going to give you a quick recap of what went down as you might call Cairo Irving's been complaining about the the media following him said he's not gonna miss this bleep when he's got cameras in his face. He's been proclaiming he'll return to the Celtics. Then being surprised when people are frustrated when he later says he doesn't anybody bleep, and you might not be back. He's been talking about how the media is the worst. And he's always getting hounded basically miserable at every turn and fueling the fire. Every time he answers. Question by digging deep into some weird stuff instead of just keeping it simple. And so yesterday, I said kyri my guy. Why don't you just answer the questions with a little honesty give the people what they're looking for which is a little transparency and you'll make life a little easier on yourself. Here's what I told him yesterday. Just tell people, hey, man, you know, the criticism is a lot to do with sometimes. But I'm working my way through doing my best. Just keep it. Simple. Keep it honest. You can be vulnerable. We're fine with that they're making multimillion dollar decisions. Kevin Durant's decision where he goes if he goes anywhere is going to affect the entire league. And so we don't begrudge them nervousness or reticence about what those decisions are gonna mean. But we do expect them to have a better understanding of how talking to reporters and being a part of the media is part of the job. So what happens Celtics have a long plane flight career Ving talks to Danny age and talks to Brad Stevens has some moments with his teammates. And what do you know fits the comments change? He's simple. He's honest. He's vulnerable. They win a big game. It was all thanks to me. Right. Well, look, the first and foremost Perry in the lead here. He's listening to Spain fits in the headphones while he's getting ready to play. So I mean these champion out to the federal. So I think he is like that's nominal watch. He was listening to you. And look this is what we we asked. And I understand that athletes are sort of in the no win situation at times, we want them to be honest and vulnerable and one they're honest and vulnerable than we turn around and somehow turn that into weakness. I understand that this can be difficult for for navigation purposes. But for Kyrie Irving, particularly I think you have to look at it at some point from his mind and say, okay, when did you become culpable in this, and he became culpable in this when you sort of put himself out there, and when he started trying to control his own destiny, and when all of this sort of started to fall around him. So I look at it and say, we want him to be honest, and we want him to be, you know, real about what's going on. But that's a heck of a lot easier to do when you're coming off a massive win. I don't know right now if I can trust anything coming from Kyrie Irving because I can't trust him to be the one thing. I. Him to be which is consistent in his tone. I don't know that he can do that. Yes. So the question is not whether last night's big win over the warriors. An absolute beat the brakes off you kind of win for the Celtics changes everything going forward. It's is this the kyri. We only get when you have a good game. Right. Because in recent in recent games, we've seen him do the one word answers. And all of a sudden, they get a big win. And he's eloquent, and he's look way shes, and he wants to spend all this time talking about how things have changed. I liked what I saw last night. And here's specifically what he said that sounded a lot like what I was telling him to say he said he gets a little overwhelming. Oh, not that. That yet. I didn't like that part. This is the part. I like t- set it gets a little overwhelming. Like I said, but this is just the business. I'm in the business part of it is what makes it terrible for me, honestly, dealing with all this bleep. I'm going to be honest with you guys the basketball part. I have to keep that fun. That's where I'm great. That's where I love to plan B around my teammates. That's what makes me happy. And he goes on to say, it wasn't really a change of perspective. It was lending the guard down. Completely. And just not thinking I'm at odds with everybody. It's not a competition in this locker room. It's a competition out there. That's the most important thing. That tells you a lot fits cacique knowledge is that he thought it was a competition in the locker room that they were fighting with each other. And and fighting the outside world, and he was thinking everyone was constantly at odds with him. And we were getting that in every answer. He gave if this is a turning point moment. And it's talking to Brad Stevens, Danny Ainge. His teammates causes him to focus more on the basketball side of things and stop spending so much time digging into the other stuff we might see this team perform like they did last night. Then doesn't that big the question of why? Now, why did it take this long to get like what's the break through moment? Where suddenly listen to the show last night that is fair. Maybe he needed to hear different voice. I mean. I keep trying to drive back to like this wouldn't surprise me early on in the season to hear. Hey, he had a breakthrough moment with coaches and GM's and the team why now and how again sustainable is that because I mean, he had nineteen points eleven assists last night. He played well last night. But I keep looking at all of this and saying where does the hype com for Kyrie? And that's something last week when when you were out, and I was talking about Kyrie part of my conversation was why does everybody want Kyrie next year? If you're the Knicks. Why do you want him because the Celtics aren't better with them on the floor right now? And I'm not sure that emotionally he if he can't handle the business of basketball right there. Why why does everybody fawn over kyri Irving? So I can't figure out, you know, this is sort of like that sudden rapid change from one of your friends that just hasn't figured out. And all of a sudden they walk in one day and they're wearing a suit and a tiny like oh God. Like you. You made a complete one eighty how do you sustain it? I I don't know that I believe this is the real Kyrie Irving right now. Listen. I'll give you the part. I do agree with. I don't know. How handle the media with the Knicks? I don't know if he's your guy. He would need to be your second guy. If you're really going after him hard. I don't necessarily agree that he gets out there on the teams worse. I think they played differently. But a lot of the statistics point them being a better team with them out there, and a lot of it is about understanding the egos and the personalities out there from guys who were in it last year forced a tough Eastern Conference final series. And we thought that they were going to be the ones to represent the Eastern Conference. I think it's it's about maybe Brad Stevens they need to do a better job of moving pieces around and seeing who fits together better. And then other guys taken that step back knowing their role, but the same goes for kyri. I mean, listen, he's he's absolutely the guy who came in here saying I want my own team. I want to be great. I want to be the leader. And then leadership has been real tough for him. And then again fits you said, you want consistency. This is what he said after their big win yesterday, which I don't. I think would rub his teammates necessarily the right way considering they were the ones doing it without him and going the length without him last year seventeen or eighteen games and order dear enough for this much onto to to show. These guys what it's like to be at that type of level consistent basis, and you know, with my attitude and with my for and being able to give competencies guys. It's just as important as you know, me being who I'm supposed to be so long as teammates feel good than you know, in a good book. A good me me me by. I mean, you think about all of that. And in the success that the Celtics have last year without him. I understand that you want your leaders to come up and be that, Sarah. But isn't it alarming when you hear somebody that wasn't part of a very successful Celtics team last year that was supposed to come in in all commented to come in and make it sound like he has to be sort of the the lean on piece for every single angle in it, it, it doesn't it doesn't make sense. And you're right. The obviously the win loss record shows that they played very well without him. I I'm not I don't think it's impossible to sit here and say that somebody's talented his Kyrie that you really better without him on the court. But I'm not looking at Cairo. If I'm a team that suddenly has a ton of money going in next year. I think that over the next seventeen eighteen games of this regular season. He's gotta prove not only that he can play great basketball, and he can get the Celtics to play great. He's also got approved that he can figure out how to be a leader. I don't think that can happen. Yeah. Very Muir Curiel guy that I don't think is a natural leader at all. He. Would need to be your number two guy in pairing him with someone where that's gonna work and knowing that he's gonna wanna stick around and be in it for the long haul is a question. A lot of teams are going to have to answer Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the espionage app and Sirius XM channel eighty little bit later. We're going to get into a quick exchange from Kevin Durant reporters after something Steve Kerr said but coming up, what are we believe about what people are saying about Cuyler Murray's combine interviews, and where do we think Antonio Brown, aka Mr. big chest is headed next is it to fits his readers? We'll talk about it. Next main bits on ESPN radio Spain and fits the combine the underwear Olympics, providing us with all sorts of content. Whether that's a scout telling Dan Patrick that Keiler Murray's height was fraudulent. I want to know if someone does stip peoper under his heels they have a fake measuring tape. How did we get a fraudulent height measurement? And we just gotta do it again at his pro day or what? Happening with that. But we also get a lot of commentary about his personality. His interview ability his leadership. What do we believe in? Why do we think people are saying it Spain infants on ESPN radio the espionage up and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. And a little shakeup surrounding Cuyler Murray. Yesterday, as Charley Casserly an analyst for the NFL network said not only we're Kyla Murray's interviews, and he did preface by saying he spoke to at least two teams to sources. I don't know. How many that means? It sounds like two or maybe three. But former GM guy who knows how this stuff works said this about Kyla Murray's interviewing, well, he better hope kingsborough takes him number one. Because this was not good. This was the worst comments. I ever got on a high rate a quarter manually I've been doing this a long time. Yes leadership. Not good case. Study habits not good the board work below night. Good night good at all on any of those areas. And raising major concerns about what this guy's gonna do. Now. People say, well, we're going to compare them to Mahomes, we're going to run an offense like well homes. We're going to run an offense like Baker Mayfield. It is possible. But those guys are much different. I mean, those guys you'd never questioned about their ability on the board you never questioned their leadership ability their work habits. They were outstanding in those areas. This guy's not outstanding those areas it showed up in the interview fits board work leadership all that stuff. That's shocking to hear about a guy who was. Signed to play a whole nother sport at the professional level came in and dominated in a tough Lincoln Riley system. It just doesn't really fit with everything we've seen from him. It doesn't make any sense than his interview with Dan, Patrick where he was hawking Gatorade. And didn't seem particularly interested. But this this comes back to the danger of the combine because we said last week the most important part of the combine is the part. You don't see it's the interview. And it's a medical those are the two things that really matter the most and because we don't see them. Now, we're subject to whatever the rumor mill wants to spit out the hardest part for me to try and wrap my head around is what's true. And what's not because when you look at? Where's there an advantage in leaking? This sort of information who does it who who benefits from it? And when I try to think about that, it seems like the easiest answer is whoever wants him to slip down the bat the draft Ford for some reason. I mean, I don't I don't understand. Why else? I mean, certainly the cardinals don't want this impression out of. Other teams. Why would you want this out on a player unless you're hoping somehow that this causes a deterrent that makes him slip down to five six seven in the draft? And suddenly he's available for your favorite team. It's the only it's the only reasoning I can put behind right? So the obvious leaking about the cardinals are are looking to trade Rosen, and they're all in on him. I suppose that would be to encourage other teams to fight to try to get up and take their spots that the cardinals can draft a wider array of people with more picks. This like you said, the only reason and I think Trey wingo is called this lion season. Basically try to figure out who this information benefits, and why they would be linking it to Charley Casserly. And again, it is. It's teams that would want him to drop to them. It's just it's an odd thing to look at a two sport professional athlete, which by signing that deal with the as the essentially was drafted in became one and presume that he's a guy doesn't have the work ethic. The. Board ability the leaders all that other stuff. Now, we've seen people be bad in interviews in the combine before and maybe there's one or two teams. He didn't want to go to or got tired of of going through the motions and didn't give his all too. But for those two to be the ones that he hears from and not to temper that report with anything else from any other team that said he was great is weird. Well, and Charlie castle is scheduled to join us tomorrow on Spain and fit so we're gonna Deepa we're going to dive into this with him because for him to say, it's the worst comments. He's ever heard in his career on a quarterback. Again. I understand even if we wanna fault the board like if we're saying that he's bad on a whiteboard breaking down place fine. If that's a conversation. You know, that's one thing. But the question is leadership based on the interview like what could he possibly done in interview that speaks more to leadership than what he did on the field every single day? I just I struggled to find a way that makes sense. Now, I will say, Sarah. I did learn this from. Our friend hawk friend of the show. He did fake his height at the combine his pro-death should say he didn't go to the combine approach. He got a clay from Michael's molded into the bottom of his shoes. And then take his shoes. So that nobody could tell and got himself an extra inch and a half. So they do the heightened shoes this apparently. Yeah. So seems he could easily have some sort of. Yeah. He he used clay. And then he taped his feet his story of the combine is so unique that apparently it's been optioned into a movie. So they're making a mockery about how hawk cheated the system to get himself into the NFL and became everybody's underdog. So interesting, I did learn that hike can be faked. But I guess we'll find out about the pro day he is not willing. Or if he won't do it in bare feet. We'll figure it out you imagine walking. And being the scout. That's like take off your shoes off your shoes. I'm checking for claim. Spain and here Spain and Jason Fitz before move on quickly. I just want to mention if you recall last year Lamar Jackson every interview his refusal on the forty yard dash, you know, every choice. He made not getting an agent was picked apart to the point that people said he shouldn't even be a quarterback in the league. Right. Right. And look at the success he had midseason completely different scheme. And look there's plenty yet to be seen about Jackson. But we've seen this Allott, and we have particularly seen it with a very specific kind of quarterback. I'm not saying, that's what's happening here. I'm just putting it out there that there are certainly I think sometimes issues with getting a full report out of the combine based on expectations personal experience, personal background all other stuff. So we're gonna we're gonna talk to someone who knows a lot about this stuff coming up in a little bit. And dig a little deeper on all the comments about Kyle, Mary what we can believe and why they're being said, but I want to quickly. Ask you about a guy that may be headed to your team. We can't report any official deals until next week. But one deal is set to be done by this Friday teams of spoken to the Steelers about a potential Antonio Brown. Trey have been told that a deal is expected to be in place by Friday at Tonio Brown. This crazy. That's number one number two years. He's going to make somebody football team. The place of getting rid of him. In terms of the distraction is essentially what the still trying to get away with forgive. You get a deal. He says it's not about the money. We all know it. It's money says I said the other day is going to get his way because of what he does on the field. Cafe what kind of dead money for the skills? So brutal for the Steelers. It is brutal for the Steelers. But some team is getting a wide receiver that presumably can do a lot assuming that he is all in and he's ready to go and there won't beating hold out. The money isn't all guaranteed and that team might be the raiders fits. Well. You know, this is always tough because at some point you have to compartmentalize things so the Amore. Murray Cooper trade for first round pick, which ironically, maybe the pick that they use for Tonio Brown that can be maddening going in that circle. But at some point you have to step back from it, all and say, okay, what value can you get out of a draft pick. And that's the question. Everybody is going to be asking themselves right now. Are you going to drive somebody that for the next five years will be better than Antonio Brown? That's a really tough question for me to answer, but I lean towards no, I don't think that you can especially at the top of the second round. So if the raiders the raiders find themselves with Antonio Brown, I won't be disappointed. And as you said before if they do, and they use a first round pick that they got in the deal for Amari Cooper, then essentially they flipped Amari Cooper for Antonio Brown, which is not a bad deal. We'll get into more Fitz's raiders. And some of the other teams that are interested potentially Antonio Brown that are rumored to be interested in that trade. It's ESPN radio. Brought to you by my computer career dot EDU training for a better life coming up. How much can you believe? From the combine. And how many teams listen to a negative review its next Bain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Spain and Fitz. Do we care? What's coming out of the combine whether it's reports of fake tights or blown interviews where these sources coming from. And why are they sourcing and leaking these things to specific people? We're going to get some insight on that Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz with you ESPN radio's presented by progressive insurance. And we're going to head out to the shell Pennzoil performance line where Fox Sports and the lettuce. Bruce Feldman joins us. He wrote the book when it comes to QB's his book the making of the modern quarterbacks let's focus on one specific quarterback in Kyle Murray. Let's start with fits just told us an interesting tale about someone who used clay in his shoes to fake his height at the combine a scout told Dan Patrick that. His height was faked at the combine collar bar you buying that. Not really, you know, whether it's the eighth of an inch or something I I know being at Indy this weekend. Somebody had mentioned, well, maybe his hair was thicker. He let it grow out every little of my, you know, it's like it's kinda seems preposterous at at at this point. I mean, I've heard when I did a recruiting book I heard stories of players trying to put rocks in their pockets when they get waded combines or carry a little hand weights and sneak them in. It's just you know, it's just kind of nutty. I mean, look a lot of guys get measured in high in college on their rosters at six three. And then they show up at the combine and they're like six one in eighth. And and I don't think anybody really bats an eye. But because it's kinda low Murray the drama is in overload between that from now. So probably late April. We're talking to Fox Sports in the ethics Bruce Feldman. Spain and Fitz. Sarahspain Jason Fitz, Bruce, we just heard Charlie casualties comments that he was told the interview didn't go well for Kyle Amaury, including particularly. His board work when you hear that. What's your reaction? It's that time of year. You know, I think what you did have here at least was a former NFL executive relaying it. It was interesting to me that came on the NFL's own network of all places opposed to a lot of times, this is on some website. And it just gets aggregated and it kinda kicks into high gear. I think at the end of the day if it takes one team to really fall in love with Kyla Murray. And if the Arizona Cardinals are shopping around Josh Rosen, that means they have somebody whether it's going to be Dwayne Haskins or him and you'd lean thinking, it's probably him. I'll say this that if it's the cardinals clip Kingsbury is one of his best friends coached Tyler Murray. When Tyler was at Texas, am he's got a lot of Intel on Cuyler Murray's, you know, process from the time he was a high school recruit when he's getting recruited by the aggies and everybody else to the time, he left oklah-. Homa? So, you know, those fifteen minute conversations, but I've talked to a lot of position coaches who have these informal 's and sit down with these players, and even you know quarterback coaches, you can get a snapshot of them. But I think sometimes those those conversations some in most cases, I feel like they get overblown, and it's just something for us to dive into because it's behind the scenes gossip by the thing. You can follow him at Bruce Feldman C F B. You mentioned you know, what other teams might be hearing or listening to this commentary as it spreads any team with a valid interest in Kyle Murray is going to do their own groundwork on this. They're going to do the legwork. They're going to meet with him. They're going to go to his protege. They're going to have more interviews. So how much can this actually affect somebody's draft status? Is it just a a last ditch effort from team maybe to try to scare people away? You know, if it'd be scary anybody away because like you said, it's fifteen minutes, you're going to do your due diligence. And if you get him up on the board, and you're around you interview, everybody who's ever come in contact with them in college station. And then in Norman, you're gonna have a much fuller picture on it. Then what you may have heard third hand. So, you know, if now if teams have their own hesitation, and they hear oh, these other teams and believe me, I I don't think they need. And this is not a knock on Charlie Casserly. But I don't think they need Charley Casserly to be the intermediary. These our own NFL teams. They talk, you know, the league there guys who talk and gossip gets around. It's not like that. This is so divided whether turning in. I'm sure that this may may get back to somebody faster. But there's enough connections. Certainly where he met with ten teams. I don't think all ten of those teams. We're looking I'm saying, he's definitely the guy. We're going to take. So I think you'll probably hear. Here. Okay. What were some of the thoughts you had? But ultimately, they're going to go into a much deeper debt de of much deeper dive on him. Then then what we heard from over the weekend. We're talking to Bruce Feldman Fox Sports in the Atlantic on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Spain and Fitz Jason Fitz sarahspain you as we said wrote the book when it comes to quarterbacks. I mean, you have a book out to making the modern quarterback. So in your mind, if you were a GM today, which of the quarterbacks in the draft would you feel most confident taking at the top. It's going to scare me about the two top rated dies both Cuyler Murray. And Dwayne asking is that neither one has a huge sample size of of of reps in college. They basically were one year starters for me. I would I feel more confident in Dwayne Haskins than I do in Cuyler Murray Dwayne Haskins played some really really good defense in college especially late in the season. And he lift them up. We saw it against Michigan. And certainly we saw it against a really good Washington defense with a lot of NFL caliber defensive backs and Jimmy like is an NFL count. You know, came from the NFL they didn't give up many big plays onto an until Dwayne Haskins with them up in the Rose Bowl. Whereas Cuyler Murray, you know, the size factor is certainly not a plus. I mean, you can say all right. It's it's been diminished somewhat. Because we've seen some other guys who don't have prototype size thrive in the NFL. But it's certainly not a plus. I mean, you'd rather have a bigger guy than a guy who's. Who's just five ten two hundred pounds. So there's that I look at it and say this and having covered Baker Mayfield and done a bunch of his games. I in my opinion. I think Baker Mayfield we'll have a better NFL career than Tyler. Or I don't think they're that similar collar Marie had a fantastic senior fantastic last year at OU, he really developed well in Lincoln Riley system there. But I think he's more of a gamble to me than Dwayne Haskins. And I think ultimately quarterbacks are big gambles anyway. But I think both of those guys are a notch below where I felt Baker Mayfield and Sam darnold were at this time last year. Awesome staff relate predate insight birth. My pleasure guys. Thanks for having me. Bruce Feldman of Fox Sports and the athletic. Get triple action protection for optimal engine performance with shell v. Power nitro plus premium gasoline coming up on Spain and Fitz another milestone on the line tonight for LeBron James, and why Kyrie Irving won't be backing up last night's talk tonight. It's coming up next. Spain and Fitz benefits on ESPN radio the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain Jason Fitz we haven't been together in a while. Like, let's just be honest. The you're out partying every every year. I'm incredibly jealous of you for about a week in in February where you just look at your social media and the whole time, I think your life is better than mine and golf said he said I wanted to beat you just for a couple of days. Yeah. I mean, that's that's that's fair. Like, we a time. I gotta find some some trip. They can be apportioned as entertaining. And by the way, Kent with your every detail as you were out in Arizona hanging out with with friends and watching a lot of baseball. So while you were gone. We started trying a little something new and we like to do it every night experimented without me. That's not surprising. That's well that is fair because I like most in total cowards. So I figured she's gone. This is the opportunity where I can maybe try them. So we thought we tried this and. It was it was a good time. So I wanna see what you think of it. And what we did last while you were house. We did this little segment we like to call one to watch where we take a look at the nights sleigh two games. And we give everybody a heads up on one game. That's out there that the people can be excited for one game worth watching. I will say I got lucky. I kept picking games that had spectacular endings and got yourself on the back harder. I don't have great reach. But I'll try and then we also take everybody's thoughts on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed at Spain in fits at sarahspain at Jason Fitz, Tillis what game you're watching tonight. So we've taken a look at the gamut of games going on over the course of the evening, and as usual for this time of year. It's the NBA tickets are one to watch. And and this is this is a tough one music, we hope one so they're giving us little like we're in the club now, and we're picking out which one we're going to watch. So you've looked is there one game that stands out to you tonight. You're like man, I really wanna see this one. Well, as you may have heard in the opening segment of this here show, I praised kyri Irving for what appeared to be listening to me. He made some comments last night after their big winner of the warriors that made it feel like he was maybe gonna stop punching out and everything around him and instead start to work within the team construct stop giving us so much content in the way of terrible quotes and just. Focus on getting better working their way towards the postseason. So I was really excited to see how the Celtics and Kyrie would fare against a really, Hungary and fun to watch Sacramento Kings team. And we find out midway through the show that he's not gonna play tonight due to a left thigh contusion. So that's a real bummer because one of my wants to watch was to see how the Celtics would react in the second night of a back to back after that big win over the warriors. Would they be able to get you know, they're they're gumption backup and ready to play a thirty two and thirty one kings team. That's you know, playoff contender and bring the same energy and without career. It'll be interesting to see if they can if they can get it done that is alarming the change on that. Because you and I were closest we took a look at the calendar. Trying to figure out what game look best. And now I feel better about my decision. I was sort of teetering back and forth as the one for me that stands out is the one to watch tonight happens to be on at ten thirty. Eastern on ESPN. Company, man. I should've guessed that the experimenting involved you kissing the bosses, but I did I did recommend one game last week. That was not on our airwaves. I didn't feel good about it though, Demler in the Lakers play tonight and it's late. And and that's one of the unfortunate. Things are fortunate things. Maybe I should say the way the Lakers scheduled season has gone this year's they sit under five hundred seemingly out of the playoff race. But this is particularly again, we keep waiting for the Lakers to wake up. I'm not sure it's going to happen. But at the same time they're taking on a Denver team. Like if this is an excuse to get everybody to pay attention to Denver. I think it squarely worth it. The Denver Denver is at this point the number two team in the west and the last week sort of died on the hill of winter. We're gonna pay attention to the bucks. I would say the same thing at this point about Denver, which is a fun team to watch. And if no reason other than watching a Nikolai Yokich, it is a fun experiment to sit back and say, oh, wait Denver's, really good. So this stood out to me as an opportunity to use. Lebron is the. Feeding point to get into watching Denver in the Lakers. So that's one to watch. And the reason it is a one to watch. Because what I was going to say was if it was in terms of competitiveness. The Lakers are essentially out of the postseason. The pelicans have better odds of advancing to the postseason, according to ESPN's. You know, number crunchers. So the Denver Nuggets didn't win out on getting one of those games where the Lakers still seemed to be pushing. They might actually start tanking and there's some injuries that are affecting the Lakers tonight without coups Ma. And who else is out tonight? There's Ingram's out. So I mean. All the future. Former Lakers are going to be eating this. You know, but because it's a historic night for LeBron where he's expected to pass Michael Jordan in the record books. He needs just thirteen points against the nuggets to become the fourth leading scorer in NBA history. You're right, but people tune in to see that moment to see LeBron have that history making moment, and they happened to catch a really good nuggets team at the same time. That's the reason it's one to what even if all you get to see is Yokich one time look at an arrest with just uttered like disgust, nobody in the NBA doesn't better. Because you can't really understand what he's saying. When he's yelling at the riff, but you don't need to ease the little like Andre the giant. When he does it like, it's kind of his arms flail out. It looks awkward and the whole time, you know, like you don't wanna get in the way ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance customers who switch to progressive can save an average of six hundred sixty eight bucks. Call or click today. Find out if we could save you hundreds on your car insurance. Spain fit sarahspain Jason Fitz. Those two really stand out partially because let's let's be honest. It's not the best late tonight. I mean, even in college basketball, there there isn't much out there in the world ranked matchups that look enticing it. It's one of those nights we have to you have to lean into a little bit to find the perfect match up. Hey, let me ask you a question. Speaking of college basketball, we were talking about this on around the horn today. So why don't you take? We were talking about the end of the run for Kansas after fourteen straight seasons with at least a share of the conference, and and whether people have maybe underrated that because we really focus so much on March madness. It's great for people's pocketbooks that we care so much about NC double A tournament. But does it take away from that big twelve title streak that when you think about it Bill self ever since his second year, there has held at least a share of it. Absolutely. We don't give it enough. We don't give it enough credit because we're in this situation now between March madness, and the fact that you have conference tournaments just the regular. Season conference title seems to be a lost piece in what everybody looks for in trying to accomplish and some fortunate because you're right. This move by this this moment by Kansas, fourteen straight years is really incredible. And I'm not sure when we'll be able to give it enough credit part of it is because I think people don't love big twelve basketball too. But I'm with you. I think better than a wooden streak, and it's just incredible consistency. So we'll give them their moment right now. Yeah. I mean, that's all the more reason to sit back and say congratulations to what they did. And you know, it's point they all come to an end. But this one has been pretty spectacular straight ahead in eighty game suspension handed out and baseball in MLB can ask Bryce Harper. Not to talk about Mike trout. But does that mean he won't? 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Mason and Ireland [HR 3]

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland [HR 3]

"You're listening to Caspian. Los Angeles up tearing up afternoon drive. I'm starting to get used to it now. John Good originally the time shift was very inconvenient for me that but I'm starting to get used to the new time slot feeling feeling better feeling better about it because you know I am SORTA run up and die down. I was down yeah all right so this question is interesting so developer divots. I've heard both devotes is more common pronunciation. You pronounce like it's vets yes but it's spelled V. AC All right so we'll say diva what okay was drafted by the Lakers in the first round of nine thousand nine hundred eighty nine so he he was at the end of the Lakers eighties dynasty he played his first seven seasons didn't with the Lakers and the reason we're talking about this because you went into the hall of fame last weekend and the Lakers have a policy of Laker acre players who go into the hall of fame normally get their number retired should they retire days he played seven seasons for the Lakers from nineteen one thousand nine hundred eighty nine through nineteen ninety six yes so he only appeared in one. NBA Finals for the Lakers and they didn't win it correct. He then went to Charlotte for two years and then played seven seasons wins with Sacramento so that was seven with six with the Lakers seven seven with Lakers to was Charlotte seven with Sacramento in any came back to the Lakers and in played fifteen games in five before he retired right. He's right on the bubble is right on the bubble double for example. He's won. This makes it hard when you originally asked me this. I was leaning no right hi can now. You're talking yourself into it because of this. He's one of seven players in NBA history to record thirteen thousand points nine thousand rebounds three thousand assists and fifteen hundred block shots the other six are all locks there in the hall of Famer locks to get in but that's an argument for whether or not he should be in the hall of fame not whether or not his his Jersey should be raised to the rafters at Staples Center right but here's going to be my problem. The other six are Kareem Tim Duncan and Shack Kevin Garnett Hakeem allies yuan and here's where we're going to have trouble POW I saw oo now POWs getting in for sure and I think most Laker fans would agree raises Jersey to not even with debate with even yeah okay but here's here's your you're GonNa Laugh. At this House spent his first seven seasons in Memphis Yup. Then spent exactly seven seasons all with the way goal so now here's the one. Let's say I'm arguing against retiring. is power appeared in three consecutive. NBA Finals winning two of them yes now. They're both going into the hall of fame based on their international contribution. Ah Yes so my argument four day is he has the exact same resume is Powell without the championship excellence but but similar resumes resumes. My argument against is never won a title for the Lakers and I don't know if this matter but he now is the chief basketball officer for another team correct for different team but I don't to me that doesn't that doesn't matter that he's more associated with the kings and he is with the Lakers. I mean you could say Elgin Baylor probably because it was his tenure with the clippers. That was a sentence say work for Donald Sterling. It's true it's hard greg as the host of purple and Gold Fanatics Dot Com. Thank Hey all right. It's showtime flora okay. What how do you vote on this. I think if you ask Vladimir which team he associates himself with as a player I no he's with the kings now but as a player who he associates himself with more would be with the kings kings not with the Lakers he does have his best only only trip to the NBA finals with the late because they ran into the Lakers with the kings but when he was with the Lakers he had the best statistical numbers that he had in his career but he is a king being in an army in his mind. I don't put him in the in the Gut. Check Test Day so if you ask me about doc powder salt I say absolutely one hundred percent. If you ask me about a lot of divides I have to think about it and the fact that I have to think about it means his Jersey should not be raised and there's a lot of other great Lakers who don't have their New Jersey retired the differences. They're not in the hall of fame but I'm like Karl. Malone own is a hall of Famer. He didn't play the majority of his career at the Lakers but he went to the same amount of finals as a Laker is correct. You wouldn't retire hire Gary Payton number no you wouldn't. I'm Steve Nash's number right so I think that's how that it's it's right on the bubble. How about Dwight Howard. Well wait a minute. That's really fast. Here's here's the interesting thing you know. You're doing it but you did it. Vitamin D white worth same number so just wait. They both were number twelve. Oh well he's thirty nine. He's D thirty nine. China's thirty nine point Dwight's going in the hall of fame for sure has now two stints with the Lakers well it depends. So how long will it be by what happens now. Let me see what happens next. What what's IT GONNA look like see like using your gut. Check yes test yeah. Okay Okay Robert. Ory Seven rings. Let's say he gets into the hall. You retires number. No yes I do. I do you do here. Many bigshots yeah yeah. Just I want against the Kings General Right. I wish by the way when I was on the court right. He was just a sniper yeah right. He was the sniper VER- only he has to make the hall of fame and actually. I don't think he's going to make the whole you seven rings yeah. I don't think he's going to never dominant never the best player on his team not even close to it but but so many big shots and and seven rings a lot who other than like though Celtic teams were Bill Russell Bill Russell like eleven but other than the Celtic teams has any other player. Steve Steve Kerr had five with three different teams right as any other player got seven rings. Jordan only had six green at six Kobe at five five aurea seven even Jim. Loss KOPF has seven talk Frank Ramsey. John Havlicek has eight and Tom heinsohn Celtics don't count because they just wanted every year in the sixties news for all right now my friend Michael Kogler who is the brain trust behind back stage Lakers okay he is. He's the executive producer of that show and he basically him along with Brian Dick. Lou Put together all this. Mike's man on the ground. He's he decides what stories they they do. Just sent me a very compelling text. I'll simply you guys and you react okay retire Vlada number simply because we got Kobe in that trade yeah no. I did train him for Koby. That's how we got. Kobe's one hundred percent true. I mean that's that may be Jerry. West's numbers retired that may be the reason of their tires wadis number with a nod and a wink say my name you gave us. Koby Salah might be the greatest trade. The Guy was bitter. Oh that guy that was bitter that that happened was Michael Thompson. I'm sitting. He was the biggest steal in Laker his trade deadline and then and then the Lakers traded for Kobe see Michael Thompson. We're talking about this today. He was hanging around here was was he yeah he was. Why was Michael. He likes to come and sit in studio. Owens's the print Michael towns when he needs to print something. He drives all the way from his house to the station so that he because he apparently doesn't have a printer next week. The Big Thompson Family Foundation is next week and where's that Pelican looking. Ill Pelican. Yeah and aloe black is playing banquet so it's. I'm not here next Friday. Because I'm going to be playing the Thompson Timmy invitation tation to the event get lost in the mail. Well you two will never get invited to Pelican. Hill not banned from the a show. I never met him from the show well either as he puts it when he was limited to two segments. Greg is the one who told him but he said there's no way that didn't come from Mason. There's no greg or as we know. This is a true statement. Michael said to me Greg doesn't have that I don't I don't have the kind of power old me cigarettes. You were the banner day. I was the one that said two segments only right but he gets made he blames Mason for that so you're both banned from the event. I thought Michael Savage Checkbook not work. He doesn't want me to help raise money A. and come to Pelican Hill and follow blacks ing no that that's actually not a bad argument by you drive. I've gotTA check a little check for for the family flashier. I bought a bunch of stuff at that auction. This is good. They have a silent and then they have a live where they give away like something something to live. I bid on something to live and then I didn't get it. Did you yeah you would you wouldn't get. They raised you out of it. Yeah I got. I afraid you'd get stuck with something. No no no. I kind of wanted it yeah I wasn't I think it was like a week in Cancun really really nice spot and I bid. I've been a decent amount of money on it. They've got stuff like that. Oh Yeah they've got one and now with this warriors new arena. They'll have a much stuff for the new arena. Be Honest. You just wanted to say that you bid bid on it. I bid on it. How much would you did thirty five hundred holy. Well all right okay well. Then you're anything it went for like ten more than my rent pocket change once you got in your wallet all right now one thousand five hundred twenty six no. I bet you have more money than you guys but I don't have a lot I actually I went to the ATM. Let's then you got me do just went to the ATM out. Change counting carrying changed or you guys got me. I actually have something you guys got time. The seventy seven dollars all right. You got me eighty six dollars and twenty five so you have more on your wall. I've got five five tickets to Disneyland all right well. Those are those are worth more or that you know they're used okay so many thrown away if they're not used those two hundred pop but the here's the interesting interesting thing my wife never ever carries cash like if she was in this debate with us we have at least Range Jeff. She says zero see I need it for tips right. Everybody should write ups. I don't tip I got a car wash yesterday. I always took the car. Why not the guys that give you your food and it doesn't tip for takeout. I think a lot of people by the way here's the thing I was of counter over in Santa Monica this week. Yeah and God. I wish I could remember the guy huge. Fan of the show ended up to twenty percent because he's so you didn't want to get a name name shamed correct man. Mason K. A million plus the next time you get those doughnuts you want the guy not to spit in her known around you. WanNa take care of that. Exactly you go to a coffee shop and you get a coffee do tip them. I do okay. I do too takeout shop. Yeah I know but they're actually mixing something. They're making. They're making other people putting your food together and they're bagging it up for somebody else's cooking and putting it together doing table of the tip. There's taking the packages and they're putting into a bag. That's completely different and actually shirts all right. Hey talking races artists while we're talking about basketball. Yes okay. Ah Big deal little deal no deal that team. USA got bounce this morning by France. Let's talk about that. Let's do that next I if you're looking for a brand new seventy five inch Q. L. E. D. Samsung for the lowest price ever. Listen listen to this deal available right here right now from our man Isaac from your audio video and Westwood. This is the incredible seventy five Samsung Four K. Oltra. Hd No frame none cue for the lowest price ever just got to be a Mason Ireland listener and be one of the first three right now to call and by this is the brand new Samsung picture. Next level blows the doors off the standard led eighty. Here's the deal we got three of these at this place right here right now we don't affor- if you walk into the Mir showroom right now ask for this deal. It is not happening here here. It is normally to twenty two hundred bucks. You get it for seventeen. Hundred forty nine bucks seventeen eighteen hundred forty nine bucks again this is the new seventy five inch Q. led Samsung Seventeen hundred forty nine doc and as yours lowest price ever you get the best customer service in the world call right now three one two three four forty ten that's three one zero two three four four three one two three four forty ten three only. Moore audio-video Fisher audio video retailer of the Los Angeles Lakers Mason in Ireland. ESPN LA so our friend Arosh Markazi is listening. We appreciate that Arash thank you He says why they never won a title or was named at All Star for the Lakers. Yeah this is pretty easy. You need to do at least one with the Lakers to even be in the conversation so using arrages measurement. Ori was never named an all-star correct but he won multiple titles so that's not a bad way to look academy if you don't have either if you don't have titles or allstars then that then you can take out. That's how you get out. Payton and Malone you ever want entitled the Lakers somebody reacting to that T- Hatrick says Wadis in the hall of fame his contributions to basketball on an international level outweighs accomplishments government in the NBA. He was a pioneer Anna Laker. Those people deserve retired numbers. It is really the ultimate test case by the way fans I put up a poll now that he has entered the hall of fame should the Lakers raised Vlada Devices Jersey to the rafters at Staples Center How do you think it's running because you and I rarely grant anything and we both think it's a no I'll say seventy percent now. It is eighty four percent. No no now resoundingly. It's not help invited. He works for the Kings. He is a king. I mean that's just that's what he is ease with you know with Chris Webber and those types in Jay will and all those I mean I remember I remember the games against him more than I remember the Games for the argument right there right so today in in China the US lost to France Eighty nine seventy nine the game was closed but they ended up losing the the United States had one fifty eight consecutive tournament games in Fiba and Olympic competition since we went to NBA players starting with the bronze medal game game at the two thousand six world championships and continuing through every Fiba Americas World Cup and Olympic ever since so that was the last time we lost was in two thousand six. US was bidding to become the first nation when three consecutive world cups after winning three straight Olympic gold old jess in that span big deal or little deal. I cannot tell you what a small deal. This is none of our guys. Were there none of our guys. Are there I don't even know where the Games were on. ESPN plus it was mostly Celtics view of there were four Celtics. Jason Tatum asserts play. I think we can blame it on the Celtics and I don't think this is a significant store in we qualified for the Olympics Tokyo twenty any twenty is is the whole point of USA basketball and I understand that in other countries like I'm sure in France. They're celebrating this victory Kariya's on NBA players on that they're playing Lahmar say or whatever they're let me make an observation or say. I don't think it is the best big man in the NBA. Today Yep is either. It's a two horse race YEP. It's either Anthony Davis or Joel embiid. Correct Act gave one of those two most people would say third on that list is Nikolai Yokich. Not Me third on that list is really go. Bear bear is a two time. I'm defensive player of the year who blocks everything and he's actually excellent offensively and and I would take go bare over Karl Anthony towns. I take him over Yokich. That's the next year go bare. Yokich towns those dudes and today we didn't have any big mcminn to match up with go bear and go bare had twenty one points and sixteen rebounds and blocked shots and Evan -Fornia who plays in the NBA had twenty two frank ntilikina had sixteen. I mean they. They had their best folks. The best players in France showed up up for this thing the best players in the US all turned it down because a mean something for other frustrates doesn't mean it's not necessarily the greatest in the world but most people aren't locked locked into this and following it the way they will be following the Olympics. I just off yours. I don't I don't blame big star players for playing and are you telling me if we would've sent Lebron Brian Anthony Davis Steph and clay for the loss of this lights out no way harden we attend hard and we own that come on Brook mays his and by the way that's what it will look like next summer because ultimately. Do you think a Laker Fan. Do you think Lebron should go. He's already got two gold medals. He's got to give my three. I think it's three I mean. He doesn't need to he would now. This is Lebron play in twelve and sixteen I think he did. I don't know the answer unless he sat out in Sixteen Greg. Got It right here. I'm just looking for Laker Form Place Showtime Bowling Bowl Party. Dot Com showtime aim for gray hit ten thousand by the way on twitter excite one one day me or mason individually he uh-huh Jerks two thousand eight Beijing Gold Two thousand twelve London gold and a two thousand four Athens Bronze Sweney say he did not play no isn't that Athens Games should not play in the next one. I agree you should not. I think it's completely completely up to him. I answered very difficult to say to anybody. You should not play for your. I'm a huge fan of take the summer off that specialize me 'cause you're kind of Mr Olympics but but here's the thing Mr Let's win a championship and have a parade guy well. What if they do that like using anthony. Davis should go yeah. I think Anthony Davis chagall his he been there. Yeah he's gotTa go gotta go yeah I mean but but Lebron is entering his age thirty seven season that APP that will be entering his age thirty eight season ages no fact Mita Lebron. He's a tank to me. The mileage is really important that you're you're characterizing. Lebron human in years. He is not human but yeah I I would lose sleep if you're a basketball fan over the fact but you know it's interesting. We're GONNA play Serbia now Serbia's. CBS The when the coach said if they have to play us God help them yeah and then they lost to Austrailia the they didn't even make it into the medal round so neither Serbia order the US is even going to win a medal. They're not in the final four yeah French. One today may win the whole thing they may. They were pretty good. Does that make you feel better. If they win the whole thing well they may quit. They get to the final your member such remember when you did that. Joe Thrown with throwing Cherry got mad on the I. I do not appreciate that he hated it. Well you know I've read a lot since then and the French resistance silence was real during World War at actually was real. I I saw Lehman's. I know yeah now. Let's that was nice lambing to do grow a two okay. I was the French Revolution. I'm talking about the war done at the two year talking about say the French Revolution was weird. No you said the resistance resist French Resistance during World War Two real. I wanted to defend the French on that good to know so you're not you're not gonna come freedom fries anymore. It's a joke I don't make any more. Okay okay about surrender because it's tough to make today yeah no it is they beat. Are they want all right. Hey football season official. Ah fast-tracking Twenty minutes football season officially here it means. You've got all the big tailgate parties coming up. You're hanging out with friends haven't seen in a while. Maybe you're thinking about holiday parties already right now. During football season Dr Grant Stevens is reducing the cost of cool sculpting by two hundred bucks per cycle just mentioned my name and the football special that means that you any any time you go in there. 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John Eighteen pounds in seventeen days yeah saw it's all things but you have to you have to do it and it's basically you're eating airline food not come on faster now. I'm reading getting small pieces of wood astronaut little broken up piece in the La Drinking insane amount of water every day but if you're willing to do it works it does work lose weight go to medicine endorse. It's not it's not all right so the dodgers by the way on the field of Baltimore Right now Baltimore's just scored they lead the dodgers one nothing it is bottom two and every one of these. Games is now critical for the dodgers if the dodgers and because they're playing for home field during a game beyond the Yankees game beyond the Astros for best reckoner baseball four games up in the braves for best record in the nationally. They got to hang onto that you you gotTa Have Home Field in the An lcs but in the case of the World Series Homefield advantage is is gigantic because of the dodgers success at home this year. They are only six games over five hundred on the road. They've done all their damage at home. Plan plan home is critical for them especially when they're facing a team like the Astros or the Yankees John. How would you describe the dodgers season if they don't win the world series. I think it's almost it's uninformed formed in and somewhat negative to say a complete total failure because it's not getting to the world series. I wouldn't say I would say disaster yeah. I think you're being extreme. I would say it would be the word I would use. It would be a disappointment. That's it yeah oh come on. They make it to the world series. Only two teams make it. It's really hard to get there but I'm sure if you go to the world series three times. It's a crap shoot. You gotta go one for three and you are. You are bipolar yesterday. You were arguing that they should celebrate celebrate every single time if they don't win the world series. I think it's a disaster a full scale panic in the streets disaster. So what do you mean they. They're not breaking the team up. No no the the the organization is is really sucked but you've got to you got to punch through a Saddam George Unit agreement. He's one hundred percent agreement of the alliance. Yep All you want but they'll be zero repercussions if they go to the world's repercussions. Russian's are expecting none no matter what happens no if it was in your words in unmitigated disaster normally that would mean heads would roll. VIP The average dodger fan they will say unmitigated disaster cabinet and say that all they want. It's been twenty. They're not gonNA be eight years and they're going to win it. Twenty eight year will be no changes. Well no there. There's no reason for there to be changes division titles but they're not winning world series now. So why wouldn't there be reason for changes. Wait oh he's. Let's let's culvert. They go to the world series. They lose. Yes God got any reason. Do you recite in general you know okay to you resend richhill now. Do you okay. Here's the hard one by the way so there are changes. K. Buster said two weeks weeks ago today but he said two weeks ago that Anthony Ringtone. We'll get a look from the dodgers to give up on Justin. Turner left left one more year left on his deal. I just have to look seriously at random yeah so maybe there will be there are going to be yeah. I mean one hundred and review. I don't think there's Greg. I don't think there's any chance hundred ruse coming back. I mean unless he comes back on a smaller deal team. Favourable came back on his is fifth year option. It's fifth year option qualifying on buying offer yet right but no I think that this is it is an I by the way Justin Turner would come back and he'd be thirty five years old so he can go more to a bench type role like a David freeze is doing right now where he's playing first base intermittently intermittently and same thing with Rendova come and play third and Turner would just kind of play some games or move over to second would be incredibly weird to be the heart and soul of the team and then be asked to be a bench plan. Still I mean you. You can beat them by the way he'd be a twenty million dollars. I would expect the dodgers to take air coal. I I think the English Cole I would make a run a care call. I think they're happy with their pitching staff there but but the way the dodgers have gear. Kohl's going to get it five years close to two hundred million dollars interference never given a contract. I think he's getting five years two hundred million dollars. Starting pitcher gets two under million dollars. What do you think you get what grant you got. He got five years six years yeah. He got six years one nine or something you gotTa. He got a big old deal yeah so I mean you have to go too far back to find two hundred million grinky. I mean it. You got between one hundred eighty two hundred million six years to a six five. I believe yes that is due to grank. He got that Garrett Cole get and by the way get colds going to be younger than he was when he got that deal yeah see. I circle's a Yankee. I think the angels have to get him. If the angels blow this window with Otani and trout what I mean how can you how can you might try in your team in never go to the playoffs the angels the angels are going to Overpay for Garrett Cole. He's going to be the number one starter in the next year by the way he went to high school ten minutes from there right greg if reused gone we agree right yeah and if Hill's gone yet but it's GonNa be Kershaw Bueller may Goslin aureus young rotation. The young guys are going to. They're all going to be in that rotation or is going to be in the rotation next year for sure with Bueller and Kershaw so there's already three and then there's going to be if you still have my go with with Kershaw. bueller hurries gone in May in Fremantle make a run middle name reliever like our middle name started like a Kaikal. You know he'll go. He'll get somebody. I don't even know Keiko's those reagents somebody like that. That's like number three starter in another team. They're going to be changes no matter what but younger yeah. I think that do you think the changes are multiplied based on whether they win or lose the world series. Are they going to do it. No matter what well I mean over necessitated by age you know these guys are all coming off the books last year they went and got Machado at the trade deadline right mean. They're they're not opposed to trying to do big things to get better yeah and by the way gear calls getting two hundred million the more. I think about it. There's just there's nobody else on the market to compete with them. He's he's going to be the big fish. those-those those those hitters got three hundred million. Lao Ren donors an unrestricted free agent by the way by the way he'll get between two and three hundred million. He's he's A-. He's getting hot at just the right time and he's thirty. He's thirty yeah he'll get. Five years probably got an injury history careers. Two Hundred Strasbourg is on is on that list. Josh Strasbourg Strasbourg is very interesting Josh Donaldson Okay. Here's Strasbourg. Jd Martinez stress for has an opt-out iffy ops in he gets four years one hundred million if he ops in twenty five million a year the rumor is he's going to opt out. Boris things you can get more than twenty five million a year for Strasbourg. Are you so interested in all enam with his injury history. Strasbourg yeah yes for thirty million a year. If it is a short term deal I think I am I mean if that's a three year contract he if again he has on the table for years one hundred million so you have to beat that you would never beat that for Strasbourg okay well. Somebody's got a not with not with his cranky at six yeah now with his three years ninety year. Wait a minute thirty but you're still opposed to twenty-five. You're getting adding five million a year right but I think Boris is thinking. I can get him five months long thinking that with a bunch of guys now that have come in way way below way below and also they wait very deep into the off season as well. How Baseball is working now. You don't get picked up right away like he used to by the way Boris client yeah so he's probably not that's coming back. Now I could see with the angels or the Yankees or the Yankees Short. It depends how he finishes. Che's if he wouldn't have had this. August swoon he'd be in position. That's GonNa depend on how he pitches in the postseason right yeah. I- fasttrack is in ten in minutes Mason and Ireland. ESPN hey don't forget at five thirty today. We're giving away tickets to the rams home opener against gnarly. It's my turn to do a stupid game. My super game is yesterday stupid. Games have been really rough this week. Your game was really hard yesterday. Your game was super high. What was the same amount of time it took to play the game. Monday took the play the game yesterday the callers just are one guy called yesterday and said Yeah. I don't know what the game is. I just it's called the meeting. You know what that proves right. You never ever take off screaming game. What am I supposed to say. This screen calls for the game attention to what's going. Hey man how did they both turn on me at the same because all you hate and everything okay by the way I was true. I love Kobe. I WANT TO NAP random thrown out. I Love Gobi Idiot I too I was watching tiger woods sitting in the stands watching Robin all last week and I thought about something okay so it's a genie in the bottle question. Let's say you're the best you could be the best player in any sport okay satires the Best Golfer it all you are us the best tennis player either him. Federer Djokovic Yeah Trout's the best baseball player best football player probably earn Donald Right now. I don't know maybe Aaron Rodgers Yeah Okay So. Let's say you can be the best player but you get to pick the sport. What would you pick Georgia's say an. NBA George Right right no no. Why wouldn't you pick golf. You get to go you make hundreds of millions tigers worth like a billion dollars yeah but it's hard word but but you're the best you win all the Steph Curry. You're going to the finals every year but this year you lost and you need help and plan your brand. I I would argue that your brand is bigger in the NBA than it is well. No tennis tennis thing about tiger you know in some people said well. You'd WanNa be Mohammed Homina lead but then you get your brain scrambled 'cause you're boxer right and if you're what about soccer what are we would it be good to be like. Rinaldo or messy sure so guys are our worldwide International Star those Golfer tennis though you don't you don't have the injuries that you do it definitely wouldn't be the NFL no it wouldn't be it wouldn't be baseball as Paul one hundred sixty two games a year wouldn't be auto racing because you could die. No I wouldn't be auto racing golfer. Tennis is the way to go because it minimizes injury you you can play till the golf. You can play until your little bit older. I just my my experience with golf has been so teach tra- but tennis. It's very short to stay about the three best. Players are all like late thirties neuronal saint noam seen the Games are can be shorter you can get in and out of those in like an hour our whereas Tennessee's too long there. I was watching John McEnroe lesson. He was on with Seth Meyers. You said if I made you commissioner Michigan tennis what would you do. He goes. I would eliminate best three to five years for everyone. Men Women because you don't want to sit there for five hours. That's a slog. Should we invested two or three for men women everybody. I think he's right. I think mechanization thing. He said he would do McEnroe. Get rid of the UMPIRES and the line judge you call your own and then so you you get these huge arguments and then you can go to replay yep you could say wouldn't that be interesting if you if they had no officials you and I are playing tennis and is for the Wimbledon title and we I call it out Yep. That's out. We'd have to resolve it. Somehow challenges okay so here's Forbes richest professional athlete in the world right. Now is a messy no Rinaldo tiger. No it's Michael Jordan one one point seven billion shoes. That's part of this. You get the legacy two. WHO's number two. You'll you won't get Michael Schumacher Racer right worth eight hundred million dollars Avenue Gate Tigers third were tigers tied for second with eight hundred million magic connects for six hundred million six hundred million the other. Are there any baseball players on that listen to Upton. I don't think so you know who's number seven is Roger Roger Staubach who apparently has had the most successful real estate investing career there is I mean he did not play at a time when guys is mainly Floyd Mayweather five hundred sixty five million. Hey how about if you're an owner Kobe five hundred million. If you're an owner you'd WANNA BE NFL right or would it be a soccer team. Would it be like Manchester Chester United. I just think it'd be cooled on an NFL team. If you can have the cowboys which team do you want the ramps by by the way telling you the Rams Man Will Jerry Jones. Ain't the cowboys are out. The Rams. Are My first choice period the rams. I wouldn't on the ran's I'd want to know the dodgers and one on the Lakers could known all three at the same time but those are the teams I went on. I've voted in Karachi's figured it out. He's a billionaire married to a billion. Yes he's married to a walmart heiress. That was my dream was to marry a girl with a trust trust fund. All one time is coming out of the miserable. I'm coming out of the rams game and I see a golf cart and it's Stan Kroenke and his wife and it drives right right past me. I'm like they're just went seventeen million dollars on one golf cart surreal. I think Stan Kroenke might listen to the show really. Here's why I'm walking out of his son. Josh Yup runs the nuggets. He owns the nuggets. Get Spit. He had to divest when he bought the rams because you can't Josh has to be the name on the on the yeah so I'm walking out of the LAKER locker room doing like post game yeah and I turned the corner and I physically run into somebody. I said Oh I'm so sorry and Stan Kroenke you go hey John. How are you know way. SORTA got really and I went. Oh Five. Mr Cranky silent stamp spoke. Here's Hey John. How are you wow so. He either watches bigger games or he listens to me than I choose to believe. He's listening to Mason Ireland love. You man what you've done. I I am a season ticket holder. I bought my personal seat licenses. I am all in a new guise either that and can I borrow a couple bucks either that John Elway was behind me in the hallway but I didn't see John. How's it going but looking at the big picture. That's a distinct possibility elway. They've been in the hallway. All right coming up next is faster than Ireland E._s._p._N. L._A.

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"The today's episode is sponsored by the New Mazda. C X. Thirty you know Robert this past December when I was out in California for the Mazda things. So I got a chance to try out the X. Thirty on a road trip from palm desert to San Diego and I was riding along with someone all you listeners might know miles grave from our cousin podcasts the daily Zeitgeist. Uh so miles and I each took a turn driving through the mountains along the way and we both got to. Experience the terrain the awesome occasionally Olympics Mons like desert landscape the those mountains in southern. California really something else is beautiful country, but we got to do it as both driver and a passenger since we traded off in about halfway through, and we also got a great feel for the features that make the Mazda, C X Thirty really stand out in its class. You can check out the new theory yourself at Mazda USA dot com slash Iheart or see it in person at your local Mazda dealership. You and I think Secretary Mnuchin me what do you? Can we have a crazy Nancy I'm sorry that was the president I have such reverence for the office I would never use that term, but it isn't. Just did. I hadn't heard it only read it. Larry is now Jim Cramer on his CNBC. Actually Talking Nancy Pelosi and say, what are we going to do here crazy nancy? That's what the term, the president us. Just. What do you mean? Do you know what I mean? I such reverence for the office I would not use that to implying that. But not for you because because you're crazy Nancy I actually I think I wanna hear that again before I get to his apology that's funny between you and I think Secretary Mnuchin. WHAT DEAL CAN WE HAVE NANCY? I'm sorry. That was the president. Reverend for the office I would never use that term but it is. Just did you know you don't I mean when I called you crazy you know what I mean. So some context she is a somewhat regular guest on his his mad money show I don't know if it was like that pre pandemic, but she's been on at least a couple two, three, four times in the last six months they seem to have a bit of a relationship I. Don't know if he was trying to play on that and it just didn't necessarily land how you wanted or what you remember. We interviewed him one time he told us about being homeless and living in his car and Sacramento. Oh My. Gosh that's right. He's had depression problems and all kinds of stuff an interesting dude. Yeah. Any forgotten that? Anyway, he went onto a Pala is on his program. I guess earlier today when I talked to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Squawk on the street I made a very stupid con. It was a tongue-in-cheek attempt to make a point about the harsh tone of negotiations in Washington but I felt completely fine and I apologize for that as I said immediately after the common, I want to make it clear that I have an incredible amount of respect for both the speaker, and of course, the office she'll nobody cares now you're. With me. She's all right. My only concern objection who calling her crazy Nancy is that she's not crazy. She's Evil Evil Nancy would be a better nickname. So what's going on with the whole stimulus packages? There have been a decision that four we get to that Jack I'll tell you who's not apologizing is the man who defecated on Nancy Pelosi's driveway. In San Francisco, he's calling the do say a peaceful protest. Really what it was a joke that got out of hand joke that got out of hand I, get it the twenty, the twenty eight year old Youtube Star known as Mando. who asked have his last name withheld for fear of retribution. What would retribution be I? I don't know angry ANTIFA types caving his hand I see I see. Yeah. Doxa noon. Yeah, he's part of a niece youtube community that creates I r. l. or in real life stream videos chronicling long stretches of unfiltered daily life. He began the channel after he became homeless six years ago this guy homeless and he starts at Youtube Channel I don't know how and I'm home. I came across this story, the other day and I actually didn't do it because I thought. Okay. You pooped on the sidewalk hoping everybody'll mention your youtube gentle. I'm not sure I want to be a part of that but well, he began the channel as I said when he began game homeless to show viewers the realities of living on the street he traveled from city to city which. Interesting. Thing. That is interest doesn't say why he was homeless perhaps because he doesn't know where to crap. But recent corona virus related lockdown daily life increasingly difficult especially when businesses are close to customers and no longer people use their back all I talked about this 'cause my son has to go to the bathroom a lot. You can't use a public restroom it's just impossible. It is impossible you could drive for. Being out and about and not find a bathroom we carry a jug with us. We've pulled over in places that aren't that secluded to hoover for for my wife and US we've gone in the car. There's no place to go. There is no place to go zero bathrooms discount. That's funny. I've never run into that in recent years my life must be designed around bathrooms unconsciously, but he just since the Covid I mean he right? Oh. Yeah. Recent? Okay. So daily life is increasingly difficult as a result, his livestream video titled Pelosi began as a protest against the lack of resources for people living on the streets while people in power such as Pelosi are able to get haircuts and live their daily lives fairly unchanged. Hunting for toilet all week in the joke came up in the comments. One of my streams the said, hey, you should pardon the the Frank Language here folks but Hey, you should take a crap it. Pelosi's house. You know that's not bad. That's not bad. You know there's a connection there. That's that's that's not a week reason I thought he'd just pooped on the sidewalk to get attention and then you mentioned Youtube Channel and Brian. But that's that's a decent point right there. Not a fan of this. I hope it doesn't spread but I get his point. If we believe I'll bet there are thousands of small business people listening right now who are saying way to go buddy yeah. Because their lives are being there's financial lives anyway often their lives period are being decimated by the shutdowns that are coming from the super wealthy and powerful on. Hi, you think Eric Garcetti has any idea what it's like to run a small business, please academic and government hack. For instance, the mayor Los Angeles does he ever end up a new Cellini or Nancy Pelosi or the governor of Pennsylvania just got put in his place? By the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and do any of those people ever find themselves in a position where they need to use the restroom in their out in about probably not no no divided the whole place to go. You shouldn't have a gun, but I have armed guards thing it's just it's despicable. So any public restroom is you know the doors are locked or they got the yellow tape around at anything that was public. Dangerous Junkie, in there, and then all the private ones are either closed from covid or many of them went away after that whole starbucks you know black people thing for everybody got frayed of okay between Trans and being accused of not letting various people use the bathroom and we're just not gonNA have bathroom so. Trying to use the restroom if you're out and about is really difficult. Wow. Wow. Go when your home and go when you get to wherever you're going. But there because there's no place in between what what has happened I, don't know weird societies a common sense. We need a secretary of common sense. We could be national vote if you want just somebody will say all right look. Here's here's the way I see life. Here's the way see these policies I think have some commonsense maybe we'd have like an eight percent debate. We'd have a secretary commonsense who would be empowered to say. Look. I. Understand that you know maybe the this particular starbucks was mean to this black guy. But if he's a crazy junkie, you've got to let people you've got to let businesses eject people who are actually dangerous. Don't we all agree with that? Okay. So let's not enact some sort of insane sweeping policy here. Let's judge these things on a case-by-case basis and let the starbucks have a damn bathroom. No, I'm the secretary commonsense I have spoken the. Common Commonsense speaking which what? What what clippers that of that I asked for Nikki, Haley I think it's fifty or fifty one he said. speak in a common sense absolutely of this. Now, before I launch into the screen I, want you to keep in mind I was a big backer of Scott Walker. So you should probably mock me for my opinion about potential candidate you're a talker for Walker, when he ran for president and he did not make it very far ice schmoozed for cruised I What was what was the I smoked a Doobie? Oh for Rubio. And I think you had a stand for rand nights are. With with standard with random for quite some time. So with a grain of salt but. If Donald J trump had lost man I was a home for trump. Generally. For, trump. Actively. Soa Donald J had lost to the Awful Hillary Clinton. Nikki Haley would be the next president of the United States. She would be elected in a landslide and twenty twenty. That is my belief I heard her this morning. She was doing an interview and she was talking about the the looting in such go ahead hit that Sean this is a time of law and order. This is the time when you see anyone trying to shoot. A police officer, you treat it like a terrorist shooting, a military officer, you arrest them, you charge them and you hold them accountable if you see looting and and and damaging of business, you treat it like a burglar you arrest them, you put them in jail and you show them as an example to the rest of the community. Okay. So I heard that and I thought. Wow, that's absolutely fantastic. Common Sense. Why are lueders not treated as burglars? There is nobody in America. Who Thinks? Well, we got a lot to get Burg let burglary go actually some people in some like the baker and and Seattle, and Portland actually do think that people only steel because they're economically disadvantaged by the patriarchy. People Are Idiots but anyway. Every single Luder is a burglar. Is. Or? A breaker and enter every single one. So if I. AM shouting I don't know what would to wear my causes. Lower taxes now, lower taxes now kick in your door lower taxes now look around. Wow that's a MAC book. Yeah. Grab that lower taxes now and I run home. I'm not a burglar I'm a protester. There was some looting I want to get one of these new apple watches they announced yesterday next time there's a protest I think I'm going to grab him from store yeah, faster. Post Service, faster, postal service you gotta arm full of apple watches new in their boxes fast or postal service that makes it. Okay. How is that come? Oh Dad. Yeah. Apple I got one more thing on postal service. Since when do they wear like Begi t shirts and cargo shorts? used. To wear to snap uni if you're the the postman. Always rings twice. Where's the uniform my guy and he seems like a good enough guy but he had like. His funny. Judy's out of town I get to wear the t shirts. She says, when are you going to get rid of that? Now I can wear them with impunity, but he was wearing like one of those stations and some cargo shorts put on a uniform. Can't believe the postmaster general doesn't bust him down to postmaster private have more respect for the US mail. Yes. Throw on Weird Grayish Blue Uni apple did unveil a bunch of new products and supposedly mentioned I at some point Joe Calls at free advertising. So understand that where are they are on the whole stimulus package I want to check on on that briefly. Yeah it's a great issue, and again, one that most people can there in their little news, bubbles will not hear about. Absolutely. The Armstrong and getty show. As China now tries to rewrite history and claim it was transparent all alone a final nail in the coffin of the ally. Just two weeks ago the head of emergency at Wuhan. Central Hospital. Doctor. I fin also when public saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world. She has now disappeared whereabouts unknown. Front don't trust China. That's a troubling development I'd say. Wonder. If the story will ever really be written on how that whole thing started if China will be able to keep it secret for decades to come I don't know Tucker Carlson really troubling report reminding me of the extent to which because trump is hard on. China and the mainstream media must be anti-trump. They've been incredibly like funding and generous over the Communist. Chinese it's it is the clearest manifestation trump derangement syndrome on the planet I. Think I mean you can eight the guy if you vote against them or campaign against them, her donate money Biden. If you want to cheer right. But the idea that everything he's against, I've got to be four I mean you lost your minds Jake's you should be a member of the PSC that's the problem solvers caucus that emerged this week a should or secretary commonsense. That's a group of Fifty House members twenty ours twenty-five Dis who are trying to get the whole stimulus package talks going again since they broke down completely last week the Republicans. Put forward a covid relief package is blocked by Democrats and Rand Paul who's against spending more money all the time. The only person in America who seems to care about that on the last one standing and negotiations came to a complete halt and now the PSC the problem caucus trying to get something restarted and they came up with A. How can you run on the issue? If you solve the issue, they came up with something that's between one point three and two trillion dollars, which we now throw around those numbers like they're just reasonable charming. Why not let spend a trillion the first trillion dollar package was how this has never been done before I is this actually going to happen now we do it regularly and It's amazing how quickly get used to things they threw it out there nancy. said, that's a Republican Bill. We're not voting for skinny bill, but she has committed to staying in DC until the problem is solved although there are some people that speculate that's not going to happen. It certainly has the looks to me of a Claiming. The other side is stopping all that is good and decent from happening clear up to election day, which often happens with big issues. We absolutely both sides do it. Yeah. The whole we're going to stay in town till we settle this is funny because Congress is scheduled to be in DC for weeks right now. So. It will have the appearance of the zonal. She said they'd been down look the town the only reason I would ever like to be a congressman as I was. I would actually like to watch the process work actually like being on the conversations and watch at work and see how it is. I bet it's really interesting then after term or to tell all. Unlike, to preach from the highest mountain, what's wrong with the government I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often. I. Guess You get there and you think. I want to stick around and you just keep your mouth shut and yeah we gotta do to get on the right committees and end or and you know I got a couple of people. I can ask this question too I have a feeling that they have a feeling that the people who stay in our scrapping and trying to get something done. It's just as good as it gets. They don't want to undermine the people who are trying but man I I would love to see more whistleblowers like that I think all the American people should understand how the sausage is made like you know the old saying goes. House listened to an interesting podcast the other day don't remember his name who was in the George H W Bush White House, and they're talking about the Woodward Book and he was talking about the Woodward books over the years and how they have been hard on everybody and they're they're usually correct and it's just amazing how Bob Woodward gets all these people to talk to him. He has become such a big deal that everybody just wants to be in his book. And everybody knows that he's going to talk to everybody else. You might as well have your side of the story in there I mean you keep your mouth shut is not going to do any good because he's GonNa talk to everybody else was that was in that meeting you better have your version out there or not going to be nobody representing your verse good point because you know he has access and we'll get everybody. Nobody will replace Bob Woodward. He said there's just nobody else liked that he's been doing it for fifty years. When he's gone, there'll be nobody anybody else will say, no, I'm not GonNa talk to you don't think. Jim Acosta from CNN don't think he has the respect, but but anyway, this guy that had worked now, I'd house he said people don't understand the the extent to which any White House you're just in constant crisis mode every single day from when you get up, you're you're putting out fires all day long every day the whole time you're there you eventually burn out and leave. While somebody else comes does that's just the way all white houses work all the time and I I can see how that's probably true Oh. Yeah. You see what's in the Washington Post talking about on Fox whatever and you react to it all day long and he tried to you know the put out these fires in the next day you get up and do it again. Swept President's AIDS like dogs and that's tiring. Yes. In addition to the real crisis, obviously that you're dealing with Ron Johnson wars and that. Yeah I see what you're saying yeah. The the fake reverse he's the day you have to address those. Yeah. All Day. Every day really sounds like a good time burn. Who'd take the job? Armstrong and getty. Everybody today's episode is sponsored by the new Mazda C X thirty. So lately, we've been trying to do our part to be cautious and do what we can for public health. 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That's the big thing that's been pushed off until October. but they got the tolbert that's days away. But if but if you're an apple person like I am the the adult I've managed to push off things I should do for years you call pushing it off the apple IOS fourteen the update to its current mobile operating system is available for free as of today so. Supposed download that watch none of your apps work anymore. Enjoy. I do WANNA get into watch at some point. They've also got a new plan that they unveiled. The haven't read the details on that the service plan. So I got a letter the other day that I'm part of the class action suit against apple when they intentionally screw your phone buy a new one. Enjoy your two dollars and eighty seven cents. Get. Paid Sean the important I never paid any attention to those should I? I've gotten a few bucks here and there for some but a few I mean, you literally mean a few fifty, seventy, five bucks really fifty bucks off guest fill out a form. I'm out I. Know I know. I I just. So apple's got a new subscription plan thing out. And I want to look that over because we do. Got The iphones we got and the music and I don't know. But I I've news and the cloud it's all going to be I have cloud. I don't have the news I need to get my subscription that. Somehow under hand though I mean, they're out of control. Yeah. In the Automobile Marie Condo for Subscriptions, a Guru who like guides people through the right listen. Here's what you do. Saturday morning. You'RE GONNA, sit down and you're going to list every single subscription. You have made it a project. And then with your spouse or significant other decide which ones you really need because we all have these sprawling I will occasionally like be reminded I. Yeah. That's right. I have a subscription to that and they're getting you know it's an inconsequential amount of money. But every single month year after year. Yeah. Sure. I. Think I pay three dollars a month for Pandora. I don't think I've listened to Pandora in two years certainly not or I may have canceled I don't remember any listen to anything but this show your fool I added one the other day I signed up for the youtube subscription. To Go ad free also can listen to Youtube, with your phone off, you don't have to have it on. So it doesn't use as much data. You're not getting the video, you're just getting the audio. You did. Yeah. It's very appealing. I use it constantly for either because you can go to any news event anywhere in the world on Youtube it's streaming somewhere yeah and and then also lectures and just all kinds of stuff that I just want the audio I don't want the video but anyway, it's another subscription on paying eleven ninety nine, a month or something, and I thought if I sign up for this something else has got to go. And another one but I've been going through a dry I can't get rid of the Disney or the net flex. That denning work for the kids and and and and and for the adults either. I don't know. If you keep adding them up and if you do the math and take times twelve, it's water freaking money. That's how they get you. It is how they get you. Yeah. We were talking earlier about the. The Social Dilemma The new? Documentary. And big, tech is definitely unquestionably the scariest thing in the world today we all love it. But. It is big and powerful and evil does not give a damn about your solar or your kids souls. Anyway I recommend very highly you watch that on Netflix's which a Lotta canceled because of the child porn movie. Place in the two thinking of raising the legal smoking age to twenty-five, which I find interesting as we continue to. San Francisco once let sixteen year Oh right as we continue to figure out wh when you're old enough to make decisions or not old enough to make decisions on the end of like drinking and smoking in buying guns that's going up on voting and participating in sex it's going down her. A speaking of making decisions a note from our friends at carshield are do you have a car? Of course? You do do you have a car? That's like two three years old and about to go out a warranty? Yeah. Well, you need to know about carshield they offer a wide range of protection plans that can save you thousands for covered repairs. So the check engine light goes on. You're thinking oh no oh no ono now that you have carshield you won't be worried about it anymore. Yeah. We are on a conference call yesterday with the the carshield people in this is such a great idea and really the sweet spot is that you got a car, it's going to go out a warning. Now, what do I do now? 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So yeah, absolutely it's it's well known that you know the. the party, your frontal lobe that. Makes you make better decisions and fully developed in males still mid twenties little earlier and women. Of course, with women, the part of their brain that makes. Very, early. On? I just WanNa see me please please keep the chatter to a minimum. Off Anyway But yeah, I mean the having sixteen seventeen year olds vote is just a naked attempt to have children vote because you can manipulate them emotionally and get them to vote Democrat I. Mean That's just beyond dispute but the other stuff. Yes. legit. I mean back in the day if you're a twenty one year, old twenty, two, twenty, three, year old. Guy You're probably married and working fulltime in got kid on the way. So maybe year your brain is still a little nutty but your circumstances require you to act like an adult in most cases. So right? Yeah. Have Net young man young woman vote. Yeah. Sure. They got family. They got a job. Why wouldn't they but we're not a hundred years old and and No. We're not that old, but when I was twenty three. I didn't know anybody who lived with their parents would have been a real. In like a like what is going on with her or him Oh you announces his communist common can be. Yeah. So. Yeah. Big Cultural changes but no at unless we make a significant changes in general about when you're an adult that smoking thing now. If, you don't have the freedom to make bad decisions you don't have freedom. And I don't think you should smoke. If you smoke I think you ought to quit at twenty one instead of eighteen then. I think it is a concession. Nobody will admit this certainly Nancy Pelosi wouldn't admit it but it's conceding that yeah. Eighteen is an adult is, is kind of iffy. Yeah. Where I'm going is raise everything to twenty one including voting. Drinking and smoking in the number of things are going to twenty five military enlistment she wobbly let. Let me take teach you something about negotiating. Let's say thirty to raise voting the voting age thirty two. Well, that's outrageous. I'd settle for twenty one but not thirty to the you went to our twenty seven maybe we can end up at twenty five. Yeah it's. In you know anybody with a little life experience understand this understands that there's a reason. Young men are soldiers. Because they are. They are well number one. They're fit their energetic that you can go all day and they don't have the sense of caution that a full grown man does abilene another soldier you Yeah, and so if you're going to have an army. Armed Forces in this true. Every country on earth it's going to be young men and women is everywhere in the world consider eighteen be an adult is that just a world stand there I don't know that and how did we decide that? I don't know if I've ever really looked into the history when did we decide eighteen was an adult and and and wire sticking with it or do we have to stick with what the voting age was moved down to eighteen in my Nixon? Yeah. Was it sixty eight? Early. Seventies I thought but was young Republicans out to the polls. Well the argument was being made You're sending me to Vietnam Yeah Yeah Yeah can't vote on. That's a perfectly good argument. Yes. Well, they. Yeah. They're forcing people to fight in a war. That was getting a less and less believable as soon as any good. As eight H team could vote I mean that doesn't square it all right Yep. And that's the away at the draft. So that argument doesn't work anymore. That's the PROVEA. Yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point. But that's the problem there. There isn't one you know age that you can look to say that's those people agree it's over higher than eighteen no yes I think they would. Other than asking eighteen year olds. My kids don't understand why they can't drive now how Nate. How does this piece of technology work? Is the only thing that I would ask an eighteen year old. I can't get the printer to how do I put off my phone. Possible. It's not hooked anything. See The little box with an Arrow that. All right. I think that's a really interesting conversation and it would change all kinds of things. You know have to noodle it through I don't know in what ways good or bad. You know I don't know what it would do to tax revenue or you know marriage I don't think it has any effect on marriage statistic, but all kinds of different things crime you know you're not responsible for various crimes you commit up until you're twenty one that'd be a very big deal yet really violent awful crimes committed by nineteen year olds you're going to treat 'em like kids I don't know I don't know. I don't know right how someone eighteen I don't quite get or why we stick with yeah. Well we could. You know make it eighteen keep eighteen, and then demand that anybody who's eighteen or older act like damned adult. Carnival is going to start selling off their cruise ships if you WANNA get law. Cruise ship I need a bathroom that'd be a great way you know where I would go on the poop deck but they The Cruise Corporation has taken it in the shorts Miami just nobody has gotten killed trunks. Nobody's gotten killed hardly more than the the freaking cruise a world I've never been on a cruise in my life. It looks awful but. Know. A lot of people like. Man We. Still there's still a river cruise company that has our money. Oh. That's right. I'M WE'RE GONNA take in the summer and the postponed until next summer but. Certainly thinking, it may be years down the line before people are going to cluster together in a a boat breathe Mois Liane each other's faces great Scott sounds awful and could be a while. They're going to sell eighteen hundred cruise ships, twelve percent of their fleet because they believe it is the businesses contracted that much. It doesn't. They are also hemorrhaging money and they need cash on hand to pay things, and that's they can't sell tickets. So I guess they gotTa Zeller boats you know. I'm a saver. I've always been a safer I, little money in the bank but I have a feeling that if I were to buy one of those cruise ships. Sailing out of port, the fuel for that would wipe. Life Savings, I would get to the end of the pier and realize wait a minute I'm broke. What what's The operating cost? Where is that? The right term? The sailing cost million dollars a minute I don't know. Yeah. I know that's that's why. Private. Jets are so incredibly expensive. It's the operating costs. Anyway. So I guess, my dream of Owning cruise ship will go unfulfilled comes quickly. Trump was on ABC last night and did a live town hall. One is Joe Biden ever going to do anything like that he he has not responded to ABC's requests through the similar sort of thing trump got. You know it's not that exciting because trump got asked the same question he gets asked every single day. He puts himself out there for this questions every day. On all these topics one is biden ever going to do that. Never I suppose longs. He's ahead in the polls. Have you sensed any pressure growing know how to get a lot of -solutely not? Well, I'd say the exact opposite it's it's on nobody's radar wile certainly not the media's radar. In Two thousand, Eighteen Royal Caribbean. The annual about a million dollars per day to operate the cruise ship. That's fully staff though, right? Right. Right. Right. You know a skeleton crew just picturing you and a couple of your friends walking around that giant chip I probably hire captain. Yeah. You don't need fifty pounds lobster for lunch if there's just the to you, right Probably maybe we do a captain, a chef, a made. We may hearing a ventriloquist entertaining. We may have crossed the line policy wise in. America for. People with children versus people without children it's been one way for all of human history. We may finally be going another direction. All right. Among other things we can talk about coming up. At Edu slash impact report. The Armstrong and getty show. Birdie six. Amari. Yokich on this deal to grand. Am Nuggets Borgen on time out la so the nuggets beat the clippers. It is over for the clippers who were up three one in the series and expected to be a you know challenging for the title. Anyway, there you go. Cubs of basketball So it goes and WHO's the guy for the nuggets that some people are saying is the best player in the world right now Yokich he's okay. She's amazing. Sounds like a foreigner here. Yeah. Nicholas I. Believe it's Nikolai Yokich and he is He is a he's an inspiration to all who do not have six pack ABS. He's got. He's got a little bit of baby fat on them. Then this is the skinny version of them to. He was a little thicker during the regular doughy white guy is dominating play second round pick and he's on the shortlist of he's just an amazing basketball talent some. UNATHLETIC Lebron he looks like he's playing slow motion, but they still can't stop them I almost wish the NBA wasn't dead to me, but it's ned to me. So much support for Marxists. So I've taken in a number of read some stuff and listen to some podcasts about the coming change in policies across America that are likely to occur. If we continue to be a headed toward a childless society, Oh yeah Throughout history. In, all countries? You Setup Society, and your governments to deal primarily with families. And people who have kids but that's because that's what most people did That's you know decreasingly. So and so as we end up with more and more people who don't have children and we start having policies that are to benefit people without children as opposed to people with children. Woman won't even have fewer children. I would guess. And it'll make it even harder to have kids but. Interesting starting in the private sector certainly. Parents got more time off than the backlash started when the coronavirus close schools and childcare centers and turned American parenthood into a multitasking nightmare. That's true. Many tech companies rushed to help their employees. To extend workers new benefits extra time off for parents to help them care for the children, etc. it wasn't long before employees without children's started to ask what about us. An a recent companywide meeting facebook. The employees repeatedly argued that work policies created in response to cope in nineteen have primarily benefited parents. At twitter a fight erupted on an internal message board after a worker who didn't have children at home. Another employee who is taking a leave to care for a child of not pulling his weight when salesforce the biggest company in San Francisco announced that it was offering parents six weeks of paid time off most employs applauded but one sales manager who's not permitted talk publicly therefore asked not to be identified said to childless employees reflecting a statement. A cinnamon voiced at several companies complained that the policy seemed to put parents needs ahead of theirs. I remember working at a radio station years ago where it was it was very open plane that they had way. Higher. Expectations of the the childless to be involved in various events than people with kids and a lot of people without kids would complain. At the bar afterwards Iowa said nothing else to do. or where we have to be how much you try and not complain so much. Yeah. Everybody's got a grievance Bass, my grievance oddly enough, but you wouldn't do any agreements wouldn't have had this very many years ago where where everybody does okay that's just the way it is. You know they got these these. They handled this. We've got parent. If you got kids, you know it's just the way it is. But what what percentage of people working at a reasonably successful company age thirty forty wouldn't have kids it'd be a tiny percentage. All right. Yeah. that hasn't room that's here. That's your stance. Oh yeah absolutely. If we can overpower physically we win. The the policy ramifications though you know tax benefits you know, why am I paying for schools? I. Don't have kids that sort of stuff that will grow over time as you have a more childless society is going to be huge. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. Property taxes and school policies, and that sort of thing would just be a tipping point though I mean we're clearly you just got the mass on your side. Yes. Yeah. I'm thinking about schools. Now in the fact that they been become a far left indoctrination factory to the disgust of many I could see public schools in general just really being diminished as a as a player in society the next twenty years be interesting to watch. Armstrong and getty.

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"To The D. N. opie to the L.. LBJ At thirty three Knicks still in association. Hell while Kyrie lets loose on the Graham Unsettled scream at a ghost. Welcome once again. It's your one and only most host of the ball is the NBA podcast minus minus Austrian. And welcome back to your favorite NBA podcast in an Indian accent. The ball is being podcast this week at the association's Biggest News Zack. I live in joins someplace named curry and Klay on the list of people to hit thirty. Three's GonNa give joy beat scores the same amount of points at the number five sponsors. Lebron Rita's mount thirty three. Kate and shows off his influence over their freeze and Kemba Walker scores. The most points of any one coming coming off of concussion like symptoms in November twenty nine hundred rotating. ESPN law does start making. And I think we're doing as good a job as collided of telling Sam. I said a funny anecdote speaking of anecdotes. I've got at me as always someone. WHO's a big fan of artichoke? Dip someone who less than a year ago was commuting by himself to attend global warming. And someone who is now ask closer to being hired by disperse Vinnie Vinnie. Welcome back to the how good I could on. The life is good. Thanks for the great introduction. I don't know again all these like coming from the dark In an of the Internet. What do you not like artichoke dip? I do. But that's less like everybody everybody. I've had auditory there but I'm sure I like it a nice thing to see how some artichoke dip matter venting fancy on the spurs losing losing again and again. This is the closest you I will be to getting hired by them. I know I mean I I could probably go play for them now. Definitely see that tanking they need a dunk. And you're on my car. I have lost a lot of it by the need international fluid and you ask International as unless you we've always been a founder Spurs and you'll do anything purposes anything. He says anything I says. Yeah exactly I think I really like playing in the spurs at this point because if I would have gone during the Tim Duncan I probably wouldn't have played as much as I would want to. Just be like me. What do you want? Aren't we do now I can okay. Moore's I Sistan Coast to me. Can I do what I want to know. And you'll be like yes. You have my blessings housing's threes anyway. So I think you'll estimate game has changed a lot since last you. Are you now three point shooter. I can shoot three pointers. I'm not a three point. That's okay you could shortly does that though I could always do. Is You know. It's not the prime focus of my game game offensive game for me offense again. Yes recoding something bad all on this episode. The ball is the podcast we need the are going to be discussing the DOPP fifteen. NBA players at the moment. We're GONNA discuss your going to bring forth. The ball is ambassador program. And obviously we're gonNA talk about other. NBA News yes which is scored for other and being USA. This is talk. Oh alright so I mean our audience must wondering what is this ambassador program so we let the main man of the bachelor program. We need already introduced before he will talk about. You know when we started this new season one of the things that we wanted to really focus on was bringing bringing the fans of basketball in India. Upfront been talking and having conversations with them And so one of the things that are doing being that we actually started. Last season was bringing specific fans of specific organizations right and to sort of enhance that the thing that we wanted to do We decided to launch something called embassador program. The idea of the ambassador program was to really honor people who are following following the NBA. Who are big fans of the of basketball And who are you know sort of willing to work with us to really spread the message of basketball in India. And you know we didn't have to go too far to find our first embassador because he is probably everywhere you you can think of when it when it comes to NBA in India his His dubbed as the biggest fan in NBA and. I don't know if that is true. I don't know that is true because everybody can claim that but I would like to introduce Bush on our on our part and we when we were discussing discussing this ambassador program. He was the first person that I could think of. I mean we were like we have to get him as an ambassador for Balls Bay and we reached out to him. on instagram. And he was as gracious as always and said he would love to do it. So Bush welcome to Wallace Bayport. Thank you very much and Ashwin Lake thank you so much for coming to listeners. Wanted to know something about what about you. And I I I I have a question. I I have aggressive just like your name is push but your twitter handle as pushy pushy. Towards so though. Those names always intrigue me. If nothing is like it is from is really like I used to be mostly in cricket during those days and if you know that John is your the best of all time in cricket and like I used to be the late in my side and like I was like these people the ball anybody impeached will get hit the stumps get so my name from Shani Gimpo Bushy and it got the name of John became so they Beyond the name Bushido so I kept my email. Id End my other handles. Also this evening to that name is following me in. Yeah I was thinking like the only other words I know. It's Jonty Rhodes but I was like It's too much maybe something but Glad to Northwest Dot. So Ah Vinny you were asking him what his story. Let's not do too much Chocolate defender spot. Please tell us what what what. What does your story but basketball? How did you become like a lot of people are recognized by the worst? MVP FOR USE MVP F- like most valuable fan the NBA people themselves incentive quality. That so give us a sense of you know what your story is from. Menu started falling basketball to this place. Now everybody knows you UNEMOTIONAL unaware of this game one summer vacations went. Who might are they cutting space a He's younger than me so he was watching this game. Any less games broadcasting. I ask you all the games come in the morning so he leaving up and he told me was this game was this. I think Nicholas game on a lake on those. You just keep watching the video and gaining so I just saw that game that game digestive and award like I got really addicted late after that game like when I was just reading the next game of this ends. I don't know maybe they got what I just saw the game and they won and along with my favorite color like yellow house. Then I like well yellow as a color then actually goes feeling also so I support Steiger supporting the back. What is league is all about an Langley sector supporting the cause just watching that first game and then a little like what they show is all about and Lake Lake they wonder all the media Colby Bryant and check as we all know they don't want two thousand nine hundred ten with with the Kobe? Bryant Waldo salt does as you all know once what happened after that so and later this year like it has been a dream computer and a lot of patients. I knew this team will comeback Lego so management issues like Magic Johnson and the coaches and the players we saw some like few years backwards nichols stocking five was like as we can see our warriors like now they. Nobody knew nobody knew acting like who the hell there so I they get. I knew someday and finally last they got Lebron James and like as you all know shooting summertime. He didn't get who stuck on Tuesday lake Lebron James my favorite player number Lake Ipod what they saw. Don't know why but from the start of this season using summer. They tackled Tuesday and then other alternate Davis Davis this date and all of the players getting coming in like a nice lake minding the team together. And let me ask you this like after a lot of irrelevancy. Suddenly you've become. I mean the Lakers relevant again about this off season was like a lot of movement trade. So who apart from Anthony Davis this. Who was your favorite player to come into the team this year? My favorite year was the demarcus cousins. Lay a few years back lake acorn this. I don't know that question. which would come to the Lakers? That he was in his brain that he was playing for the second case. That and if you guys see you one of the bites one of the ad of I don't know who that my a half settled so that guys coming back also which demarcus cousins and the uh-huh says has come this way again. His injured so he's he's like Supporting on condition other players sitting being on the bench O.. Joined on the practices so I think demarcus cousins. I was very happy. Last year. He played for warriors. I said Oh my God warriors. I got another start so at I wasn't happy I was happy. leakers Gordon but then you can start envious of injury and the new thing coming lower management. I should I think that they should not make this as a nom. This loan management thing. That's the team ain't that they're paid and they should play all the because we as France we keep waiting for the game of the game and even the fans do arena like they keep like we'll go watch then you see that that is not yet based on the ticket and like we. I saw this up to the game of this in the beginning when they got that. Leonard is blamed for the clippers like it was a disappointing put. All the fans over there I now in Vinita you have talked in in some different words about Lord Bodies Mentor. I know but I think you you and Bush. It must have started watching that game at the same time audited alone two thousand nine hundred ninety nine one thousand nine hundred nine and we need the though I think you must have also started somewhere around that time and Because Shaq was that you started supporting the Spurs Cossack was. Just unstoppable if I'm not long really Dispose okay Yeah so I I believe you have more questions for abortion so let's Get those going then. Yeah so you know. I think one of the things about the ambassador program that really wanted to talk to Bush in about and understand Moore was his sort of. How did he become this kind of? I wouldn't say fanatic but You know buying all these jerseys you know bragging calling on on morning shows What really drove you to do those things you know like being fan like even I? I've been watching basketball for YLA. I have been playing basketball for awhile but I never had this craziness to you know. Go by doozy's by shoes you know like call up in the morning so we're really drove you to do those things like I know what it was for. NBA each and every game. It is like if I hear a name. NBA You. He's supposed. I understand you would be saying also a story my mother. She went through a place to get some glasses for ourselves. And she's she's all online Hundley. This evolves glasses which was that. NBA was written on the side of that so she got glasses when she gained she had worked with something. Anti engine delayed the live in Importing late I don't know some who's worms or something. It comes out here like you said about the Josie collection a near absolute Salako. who here in their lake? Vince aim in this city of Mumbai. Hartford and difficult to get the justice year so once take my one of my friends at one shopping. REBULK DOT COM. You should just go to me. I immediately vented that time it was awesome. One thousand five hundred rupees. The lake. I was in college. I am I win. Who My moment Alexander but see what? NBA All all about lead. She was always hating me watching. Nda Eli Jerus- as this most valuable fan on television morning starting annulating watching this stuff is used to come to like. See what I'm doing that time because you shouldn't be a timeout or up and those girls whose to keep dancing so as you think that always watching them the thing is there are a lot of things which comes in between debut game scam then little pointers saw. Aw Lake I was like easy for. NFL knows that this guy when he comes to NBA was once I started falling in being the it magician wants to watch NBA game. Live the Lakers game at the staples centre. Okay yes it does get much staples center and I was. I was really lucky enough that NBA game. Like I've watched the My cousin who introduced me to this game in the stand and the second pick once you open I is this Latina. M- court safety expensing. How much how much? How much is the ticket? The Platinum of course Letting them was awesome along with yes rupees and and they are about a goddess. I'm cool completed and along with other stuff also. It might be good. It was late for me. It was worth it like I like I support four-legged was the best dinkum. Then the other thing was that went on in that arena. They people were coming in negative. I'll tell you abortion Russian. You're there so let it was have come to watch the mansion Latoya. Yeah so do you think. Do you think that you will one day. Become like the Body over India. Like the bodies of Canada do you do. US spire to be the nobody of India. Aspire Lake Sort of his game on. I don't know why he was. In India their assailant would mean that he just inge enj- the discordant Dodi potatoes and Canada at eight and lake. You're a fan of the whole of NBA. If I was like this Russian if he was in Los Angeles also Mendon. What's all that put? You need. Not yet I got nice leg if you like I do take this. NBA very busy. So when this initial program quality biondo which game electron elevation and months lake. I think I saw that. There is something causes section. Also so I thought this is the best thing to get connected connected to this NBA. I would not like I. Don't let award it his then once I was with some dude also immediately. I think next next week this started giving some ambition of all of the Eh the second inside joke giving an idea. They're just giving him to give up easy lake. I almost call sometimes I initially you. Also one nine hundred dollars. Equal short-lived calls also maximum. I've given in and I. I know I remember that when it faster I had called four times and it didn't pick up an gave up. And he ever someone who set to one hundred times and he still continuing. That's the difference. I think between normal I find that the most valuable of mine expedited that only on twitter and other the amazing. Yeah so as the ambassador of the ball is Bay podcast. What ideas do you have in promoting ping NBA and Volleys Bay? And everything like do you did. You think of any idea isn't hard to do what to do I first of all like to collect elect Aldo. Those annoyed all this beautiful this August. They always all of I think all the other shows that have seen directly another very. CVS thing like this the whose name button. Then when the forecast the introduction music like analytic with a fan of the music listening thank Beagle ONCE ONCE A in August stocks there is a lot of things lake nothing serious about the sport gust stats bats. Things were going out facts and really like a things one should know about. NBA You'd over NBA but there are a lot nothing's which comes on the NBA crowd. which is daddy India country? Who does that this that you have something else apart from this debbie the beach shores? You'll have something so once we get so we need to go like what I think he's going to go on. This be the competitions conditions which are in other words we cannot go all over. I kinda the come across. NBA India's in on the side altar. We get a lot of people a lot of fans of other clubs out there in Mumbai the city of way away if we get them eventually. They've all these day like BOCCI ball. Last sport is envy so they all get all Augie inspired from the MVP after snafu global them something or the other we have google like all south Egypt to them. Yes yeah Get to them all stirred or something fans or something like that so we're GonNa talk some MBA right now we have discussed the oddball. Volume Bam Bachelor Program. We've talked to push everything That he has to say about his journey how we became the most valuable fan in India. And I think offers me and Ashwin agree that he's probably at this point the most visible fan that we both know and definitely an NBA NBA Stuff so usually we discuss the top fifteen players at this time in NBA every season. So so let's start off with ushering. Your let's let's start from the your top fifteen starting from fifteen to one fifteen ten fifteen advantage ten. Let's say you're you're you're you're five dollars five fifteen to let me pretend to search through my North Dakota okay all right so I mean if it's not like anyone can be beaten okay. So we have I. I have a Devon Booker. Okay I have a a Mr Butler from Miami Jimmy Butler Butler uh-huh. I have lots Westbrook home where that's true. So all could I have a Rudy Gobert and I have a Joel embiid. Okay okay. What about fifteen to ten Kemba Walker on number fifteen okay I've got anthony towns on before then. I am Guidi on number thirty over ninety. Okay then I have Damian unload on number two then I have got Nikola. Up Only because he's going sixteen point one point label how much he's quoting than I have it number ten Russell Westbrook so my God. This is like a homa. The truth is the truth. Yes we need our water. What is this amazing Yet you have Sierra. I was surprised off people how I don't have a list they would make you know but I think I think all of those like those people are probably in my ten to fifteen and kind of category. What Absolute Russell? Westbrook is not in the top fifteen at at this point okay. That's what you think. That's okay somebody who doesn't have a list doesn't have a voice okay out you at least have a top. Ten list have have adopted analyst. So it goes with Dame Dame Dame is Nikola Yokich uh-huh Kemba Walker Kemba Walker who will baskets the ACA Obviously definitely yeah he's doing. He's being visit James Harden. That's what I said. And James Harden what seems hotter Solo is between five and ten. That's not good enough. You should be between one and five no no my one and five is Very Ready Great. What a what? A consulted boosted the number. Nine Joy. Embiid then might number eighty spoil. George we it. Just come back by giving ready for like he hasn't played fifteen played. Fifteen games so he. It doesn't matter if he's he's playing back. That is much more like thirty seven. Thirty thirty eight point. No you can't have somebody who's played like your first of all we need. You cannot talk. Because you don't even have lizzy doesn't count anymore you. Oh you did two thirds of the job so you don't Talk Ville. Yeah I would like to say LASCA Number seven that you wouldn't do that but as easy to Pascal's Yakim then I send Davis on number six. Will we saw what they did to in. Today's this game goal and he joins eighty five hundred points. That is the ball last. This knows. Yeah Yeah there was a wedding then on number five. I think I think my man. I'm calling him the prince in this year's look I don't think he's playing football. George I think that s at okay. Okay Baldur's bothered being this fifteen but because we see lake realistic opportunities to score also and he hasn't laid enough but okay. Okay Yeah We. Let's let's let's let's let's go to I think even with its limited scoring. I think it's not a it's not unreasonable. He's played one or two games. He's played five or six games. Three Games no. I think it definitely is games. I don't think we should be playing in this year. Is there okay my my my listeners. Trump number enter number five. I have got nickel Yokich. It's not in any order okay. I've got Nikolai your kids. I've got past courtesy. Yakim Joel Embiid Joel. EMBIID in all of them did yes you did and if your voice that's tied to for you okay. Okay okay. Now you've destroyed my floor and then I have obviously cadets and Paul George Actually Paul does not look look at number five okay so then on judges number six for you know. He's not number six. Six hundred endings ended so easy ten. I I would not say what number. He just doesn't matter about a dozen seventy fluid situation see ball dot odd. If you've seen the way he had shoulder says it okay shorter surgery on both shoulders. Denying denying that right. I see you. You didn't even have them in your in your in your top fifteen I did. I just yeah definitely damaged sixty sixty yet. But that's okay the Daimler. Ah but you didn't have Daimler. I liked it but he would be might not fifteen. I'm just saying that doesn't uh-huh Carmelo in this often though. He did Though he did science today today he played team. He's he's though I mean definitely I mean Kabul. He ensured that you know he could get those points against a team like okay. So I'M GONNA do my top five doll- five different type thing okay. So number five is a look at doncaster number. Four is Anthony Davis okay. Maybe that's not what I to the Iowa. Luca donkeys was number five number. He was number six for me. My yeah that's what I said. No I'll tell I'll tell you the top five lesson de la the Lebron for me. Lebron Jaanus Kawai Harden and look at the list. What happened to that I I did okay? Alright it's Lebron E.. Coli Kaden and Luca this now the top of the proper automate this Luca Eighty Lebron. How did Kawhi is number one? Okay because I think just he he. He's just doing it at his own pace and there's nothing more sweeter to was somebody who I was like. I don't care what the world is doing. I'm just going to do it at my own pace. So that's my Bush. Please tell us your five year. mytalk fade I said. Five number number was lucado number. Four James Harden give me the. Hey Hey hey colleen number three Oh three take time leakers. Renzo de number two. I'll give to the last year's MVP Yannis entity jumble and as the number one card Lankans almost almost like this this. Yeah yeah that's true Khan denied up and you wouldn't eat either deny it and opposing points today and I. Yeah I think for the top four this location. Three people on the PODCASTS. We would love to Veg Lebron James congratulations on his thirty third thousand good point yes and many more many by the end of this season. He'll pass Kobe so he'll be and he'll probably easily play on other fall. No more seasons pretty incredible at least two more seasons. Then he'll have to play with the sun in Phoenix. That's true that's true. Okay so might five Luca. Oh Yes yes Luca. Luca Eighty Lebron Yanez. Quiet Lebron squad. Yeah Mommy the difference. Yeah but it's when this this question I wanna ask James Harden so look this goes a little bit about James Harden. Just that you know no I just told you right. James Allen is six to ten we need now that the individual players are right. Then I think more or less maybe ten to fifteen might villages if he but I I think The place to be in the top Daniel. Okay please you. You know doesn't matter. We all know that that number is that it's like a consolation price. Eddie I mean we know basketball is a team game. So this team right now looks the most fit or like most cruising the DVD's cruising they're not even Nicklaus Fan. Sheila People's as we see Lakers games like like they take the game to the fourth quarter million school. Meaning those games those minutes. They've been the Lakers. Keep wanting the game and say the lake is a whole game. I keep on like they're behind it really trailing trading in the King James Anthony Nanny Green Gene Danny nowadays late commend electrical. Joel Frank Lloyd. He's very impressed by tone. The only Daniels it was and I don't know why Jada their lease that he's doing through decryption. Everything is all about data. Yeah Lebron reports like defense you can see the ball so they know the plan was knows he knows what who how could take a team in that in by game so I think once they are in the playoffs. I think the owners like in Costa Holiday Lake. You will be the game itself but then I think like I always talked about Advan playing basketball. It doesn't matter what you do. What process can you follow the plan? Then the open put into something else so it's easy scored like I mean for heart. Another team Arkansas scored when their space and when people got in your one on one everything is fair if it hard as an unstoppable force but do so in some ways to push an S. Lebron Eddie if they keep running the high pick and roll. Lebron can kill every single team what to do. What do they do when but they realize that? There's a team conduct clippers playing in the same quarters same as the a theme arenas them already beaten once and they're they're mean the in thing is you have why you have Paul George you stop both of them Mr Lou Williams. Just kill you so void or do you think the Lakers can try to do due to beat the clippers. I think for beating the people first of all leakers Benchley visual guy. WHO's is there than this great? How forties did any aggressiveness in? This feels like a barely. And there's monitors headed goldfield if they come in front of you and defend you and other players also that if I think of their bench like Patrick. Beverley elite mortars idle and Williams unstoppable lake once. The boys were scores. I just wish that the coenzyme all your guests injures this. That's based on this. On this time we'd have never put over injury right like what we saw in the last year. NBA Finals Giving me the land. Yeah I think I think you know it's When you see the first player right it's just like they know that they're going to win the championship? And there's no I have. I've seen I've seen I think. Four or five games clippers and have never seen them. Panic is just like they know that you know they're going to win by massive margins art lake you know And it doesn't seem Russia doesn't seem like we saw the Golden State Warriors Win by large margins like it. There was a sense of like okay. You know like in the third quarter results and we'RE GONNA kill the third quarter. Unit video clippers is it just seems like in the flow of the game. They get their their defense kind of just get to you by the end of the day. Right like 'cause you're not used to playing defense like Luca can score and effortless forty points on any any other team but he struggled even get to like twenty with the clippers right so I think just that difference in intensity in the regular season will will let the peoples cruise and I don't think there's any team in aboard the best I would say maybe the only thing that I can think that could do something to the clippers opposes the nuggets. 'cause disobey the clippers other nuggets can score one eight. They can all put up any points a game and Niccolo Yokich spaces of Lord Lord like nobody. He's kind of. He's kind of like the I would say I won't have better version of Dirk Nowitzki. I'm not saying it but they're not saying I'm not saying it but His game the entire the reason why not was such a great force as the mortar spacing. He could give everybody else right because you can't get him on the three point you can't get him to point you can't do anything to him and Sam with Nikolai Yokich. He once he gets into the post his big fat dude who can actually should the three ball. He can shoot the ball and he can do the post so I feel that the only team that if they get their shit together the clippers the Lakers are really good by you. Have seen this in playoff series that that is going to be these these Sort of Times where you know like Lebron is going to be on the bench or eighty s going to be on the bench and they would have to play a Lou Williams mortar as Harrow. Somebody and that's where the advantages Cement Dot pick and roll is absolutely crazy man the Lou Williams mantras. It's Great I. This is my new favorite player like very aggressive battle does more I love his name. Last year lost it was Spencer. DVD this year. It's MANTRAS. It was her favorite name of the NBA. And what it does a saw. Effective and unstoppable like people don't expect the pick and roll. I mean I think they should expect the I'm sure they the expected experienced ticket and yet and yet every single time they because they double on Lou Williams ball more multiple subtle Arabs easy a dunk basket- like he's also pretty good. So but in my opinion since nobody asks for it I'm GonNa give it to you opinion. Tell US yes. Thank you thank you what I guess. The uniquely equipped beat them purely because of anti us the clippers. I don't think they can defeat. Alvin are really tall player. Who does well in the post but the problem is last time they played? I don't think they played that advantage. I think Lakers just tried to play the clippers game. Uh ended up losing but I think if they if they give the ball to make him get in trouble make them double him then kicked the ball out and do those things. I think the Lakers have the best big by the League. And they should use flies him dot with a the marcus cousins gets it and he joins the Lakers then again because we all know how demarcus cousins get he gets swimming technical fouls and all I think. He's that missing piece. I think that's only having but he's still missing in this. Making that face hits I love. It always seems like the video video sitting on the bench. You know for the past years under elitist. I mean I think he's definitely try making money sitting on the benches John Wall by the way forty million dollars so I might add forty million dollars disbelievers in I think I just get a glance of the two thousand. I think student when they have this Ben Wallace all. They are dead for Pete. John's and I just kept watching the finals. And like what was the eastern digits defense I tatum and Carl Malone attending treated them and they were also on that team. I thought it is very easy for them to win the Bestir from nowhere day like from not. I'm from lower but the game goes like the Likud by Storm. I think so. I think this team is like the dispensing of distancing. That's a that's a good comeback. Din Away a call it also. There is one team like the little scared of those layoffs. Talk and talk and he was you know like hey coach. Also what What he did for Doug Norwich also documents data during the two thousand and four NBA finals? And if you're listening to his voice you cannot recognize it from what I used to be my favorite but this basketball fox NBA. I think nine hundred ninety nine two thousand listen and he was okay when I think K. Fox NBA folks NBA was soil that he was an indoor person direction and he was the one was given the commentary. In that game was in the world has never played a basketball Video game in my life it is I play the NBA. Live north of things. This that coming back will keep releasing Normal season I'll I'll auto stop in your hands. Yeah this and that. All I'll be from the producers which is that I know have just an story I did not see. See The story going back to what I think I think. That's that's that's it for this for this edition off off the board. Is there anything else. I should be on On our radar gun. There's nothing you can catch. Bush sportscenter adventist. What does that took up to Fatima? High School in cut coupons. I definitely will be there. I'll bet not as host of the podcast does a person trying to win some money. So we'll see you there. Are you going to be playing the restaurant by donating onset. If I lose you can keep you on the bench and pay me Eh. It's a small bench bench. Okay so boost. Can you tell our audience to find you online on all the social media both your instagram on twitter on your side. I'm you can catch me my. Id is the Bush Dodge when she my sunny and on the we can get me that is at we should have a link the link Simpson. Nobody guys like we will put all the legs in that capacity Scott I mean it's amazing to be known for being a Fan Base in India office which is not cricket so dean of take it easy Fan Lake. I put this put my name. NBA and alongside. And I get to see my stuff which was by the. NBA Indemnities he's the NBA. I did read that article to the inpatient and honest place in for the spot I was like. Yeah let me go to that thing Such a big greasy NBA Fan Lucille name next to it and my neiman article coming that he has to more of greetings. Then I'll let everyone please take it will be done with the. Please tell us what you think about the NBA. 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Crucial Lamar

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48:41 min | 7 months ago

Crucial Lamar

"Are. Jackson the Ravens destroyed the Brown entering the fault mart was up thirty one to six many were critical of John Harbaugh's decision to leave Action Jackson in the game with that lopsided lead. Lamar. We don't have no preseason game that was my first time getting talk j Russo. Felt we needed. Coach. No, he's. Not What it is, you can get hurt anytime and I'm good and I came the game is percent so far. As, Lamar, the most crucial player to his team. I believe so I believe. So I think that you can point to the Russell. Wilson's the Patrick Mahomes the the the Aaron Rodgers drew brees and others are being incredibly pivotal and I'm not arguing that it's just that when I look at the Baltimore Ravens offense everything is predicated on Lamar Jackson is good as we know Mark Ingram to be. was He this good before playing with Lamar? He was running a football, effectively New Orleans, but not to this degree when we look at Hollywood Brown and others or even Mark Andrews How good were they? When Dro- Joe FLACCO was was throwing the football under the case of Jack mcandrew's obviously not necessarily Hollywood ground. My point is that he is offense you look at the Kansas City, you got tyreek and Travis. You look at Green Bay without this gambling and the Monte Adams you looking walgreens with Thomson, Alvin Kamara and now Emmanuel Sanders look at guys like that. Okay. But in the case of of you know Lamar Jackson I'm just of the mindset that without him, you don't have an offense at all, and that's why I consider him to be the most pivotal offensive piece of for his team in the NFL at this particular moment in time. There's a very good argument to be made for Lamar Jackson but I'm GonNa make one for Patrick mahomes because I think it's actually the answer. Lamar Jackson is hard to approximate. Can Get guys you can get a backup like rg three. You can go get Colin. Kaepernick can still play at least take a look to see if you can there guys around the league like Josh Allen or real poor men versions of Lamar. Jackson like trubisky or someone like that. The point is you can. There are guys around the League do some really bad imitation of what Lamar Jackson Jackson does including backups. The question is, what would they be on the Ravens? The Ravens offense be with them I think it's possible. The Ravens would still be a really good. Team even with a quarterback who can only kind of imitate some of the things even that Lamar Jackson do right because he still hasn't won a playoff game and I'm not saying he won't. But so far the premium that Lamar Jackson is giving you is in the regular season got into the playoffs. A couple of years are you saying you couldn't find a quarterback to get you to the playoffs with the ravens because after that what premium do you get? You haven't won now let's take Patrick Mahomes. They had a really good quarterback Alex Smith when he was housing. In a strong arm but he was a good quarterback and the premium that you get from Patrick Mahomes is basically every year. You're the favorites to win the Super Bowl. I mean Patrick Mahomes played two years. I know he has all these weapons and everything but plugged someone else in. Do they make the playoffs navy? Do they win once in their? They're in the playoffs? No No. Do they win the super bowl every time like packing the homes the first time he touched the ball this dude was the AFC championship. Game Tom Brady threw pick to end the game. A Pre snap penalty gave Tom Brady the ball back home didn't get to touch it and overtime I'm here to tell you if not for that whistle mahomes is is is going for his third straight super bowl right now because the very next year he wins the superbowl coming back three times on three different teams in the playoffs down double digits, the homes especial, special the premium. He gives you I know Stephen Look at that team you go. Yeah. But a lot of guys would be good with that team but I think the same is true with the Ravens but the differences because you have mahomes every year you're supposed to win the Super Bowl Lamar Jackson has not yet won a playoff game and I think you could find other quarterbacks to do that. Well first of all a couple of things number one, they didn't win the Super Bowl every year last time. I checked they have one super bowl championship and that's last year the year before no matter what rationale you throw it to the equation they did lose because they didn't show up in the first half. They came back in the second half and obviously overcame deficit and tied and could've and should've maybe one that game but if they had to put themselves in a hole in. The first half, maybe it wouldn't have come down to that. So it's a sixty minute game and they didn't show up for the first thirty minutes. That's the reality of the situation Gutu years ago last year, they want us to bowl. I. Recall Seeing how Patrick Mahomes played in the first three and a half quarters I recall them being limited to ten points in particular moment it's I'm I recall being down ten points our call us all looking at Patrick Mahomes saying what the Hell is. Going on how the hell is this happening this defense is holding them at check. Okay and then he flooded up a male Hail Mary as far as I'm concerned, the Tyreek Hill and he came down with it and obviously things went in their direction why 'cause Carl Shanahan and Jimmy G. hit the panic button and that's what happened. My point is this Patrick Mahomes is good. He is a superstar I get all of that but I have said it before and I've said and I'll say It again, tyreek killers don't Travis Chelsea's no joke Sammy Watkins is no joke. Damian Williams is no was no joke. Now call it to lay is no joke as well. So I look at the multitude of weapons and if you WanNa tell me their marquees brown and Willie snead and Mall break-ins and Mark Andrews, and those guys would be all world even if Lamar Jackson isn't there I beg to differ I think those brothers but I'll say this all world no matter what yeah that's right. We see that same way but the ravens are well coached and play well on both sides of the ball and what I'm saying is another quarterback gets into the playoffs and so far. Lamar Jackson hasn't done. The. Difference Between Lamar Jackson, not always not a matter of always. But still no playoff wins the difference between that and Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes gives you a realistic I make Patrick Mahomes on the chiefs the odds not just the odds on favorite the straight up favorite against the rest of the NFL every year, and so far it's born out MVP is first here at the end of the AFC championship game if not for a whistle, this do goes to the Super Bowl probably wins and the next year does win what you call a Hail Mary had for the last his own. Davis to fifteen steps and threw a sixty yard. You didn't have Hail Mary fifteen steps. Fifteen steps pass watched the play watched whatever again. Drop. Obviously that's what you did. But here's the bottom line. You didn't have them as your favorite two years ago. You had a miss your favorite last year not two years ago. So they're not the favorite every year they would have favorite last year the favorite this. Okay let me tell you something if I were to Patrick Mahomes us a made them my favorites two years ago I know where he is now but you didn't but you did. Built different at twenty twenty s started to anything. It's to expect the unexpected. That definitely applies to the western conference finals after the clippers rebound from the bubble by the Denver. Nuggets of conference finals matchup between Lebron and we'll have to wait. Until, another year perhaps on that note speaking of people that are built different. How about Vince Carter Future Hall of Famer. Twenty plus years in the League of Control. Just a second. Stephen. A. Was Lebron left off the hook here I mean, did he catch a break that he doesn't have to face and the clippers and he gets Denver that KINDA SNUCK IN I think. So I think so but I'm not speaking about it purely from a basketball perspective I understand how formidable Denver Nuggets are and Jamal Mary I. Hope You're listening you guys are not to be slept on y'all a bona fide you'll legit and I believe they've got a title in the future I just don't think it'd be this year I'm picking the Lakers to win this series unapologetically. So having said, all of that, here's how Lebron got left off the hook. We'll be talking about the Lakers nuggets matchup we'll be talking about Anthony Davis. How? Much he'll be guarding Nikolai Yokich in what have you obviously how you're going to contain them all Murray We'll look Anthony Davis and Lebron, and of course, we'll they'll have to show that the same expectations they always do, but the role plays rondos. Danny. Green's the cow Kouzmines of the world people like that. We'll be looking at them and having expectations if it word the clippers versus the Lakers. The Lakers could not lose that series they lose that series to the clippers that would have been very, very bad in terms of lake nation, the city of La, bragging rights, things of that nature. But more importantly unlike this particular matchup that match with the clippers would have been personalized because of the Banter that Car Kawai Linen instigated upon his arrival with the Los Angeles Clippers, you got the new balance commercial. You got the king's Crown Dangling, from Humira you know you're champion in the NBA finals in vp you're coming la it's a new day. Here we come all of those things particularly in the aftermath of Lebron trying to get you to Los Angeles to be a member. Of the Lakers with Anthony Davis, instead of joining the clippers, all of that was the backdrop. So this encounter take place with the clippers being the number two seed with the Lakers being number one scene with them, Shannon, not just the same city but literally the same arena and the basketball world transfixed on Koa versus Lebron with me and everybody else going off game one at a regular season when they went up against one another because we were looking forward to for months and opening night on TNT to Max Kellerman call and I let the best in the world to me saying it's still Lebron James, etc etc. It was a more personalized confrontation even though there's always pressure. On Lebron James Shoulder because he is Lebron James. Elevated exponentially because of the personal stuff that was attached to it, meaning him against Kawhi Leonard. That's what everyone was looking for to. That's what everyone wanted and the fact that it's not happening because a Kowa Leonard and the clippers and how they wet the bed in the game seven and blew a three to one lead in the conference semifinals. Now, Lebron can basically give you that Wu sock. kind of feeling on display and he could simply go out there is my team against the Denver Nuggets we know there a threat we know who I am I don't escape pressure per se, but is it anything compared to what he would have faced if he was going directly against Kawai blended and if Kawhi Leonard had played the way Max woj would play it would have been a different ballgame. Thank you for leaving a minute for us to answer that even. Look I know you ain't. Here's the bottom. All that word and have all day. You got a lot of herbs. Why did you have something to say when I? Look go ahead. Oh boy using Vince time now listen bottom line Lebron's right of the street is Clean Lebron. Slide of the street is cleaned he's waiting for coli co I didn't get there's not on the Bron- that doesn't that doesn't get. Off The hook not at all in fact, the Bronx wants to be off the hook. What did you tell me about Michael? Jordan even the most insanely competitive ever heard he was try to get under the skin of opponents before face them and I told you of course because he wants them off their games you said Oh Mj, wanted them the best version of themselves so When he beat them, he knew and they knew that he was just better. That's so gangster and Lebron James Yeah he wanted to join him I'm sure he Lebron James had a chance just now to answer the fact that got MVP. When he was only twenty two years old for the defense he played on the Bron- that y is the reigning was the reigning and defending. NBA Finals Mvp. Champ. He had the belt. You think Lebron, didn't WanNa take that back from him. Think about the way Lebron played the last time they met taking that defensive assignment. Now Lebron has vote chance to answer that directly right and now let's look at the flip of it did his assignment just get easier or harder? Obviously. If it got, it got harder because the nuggets just beat beat the clippers and the nuggets just beat the jazz in both times they were down three one and no lead is safe with this team and they believe in themselves and each other and they're coached wealth and they got not one put two guys playing and be a MVP level in Yokich and Jamal Murray and porters ascending. lebrons job just got harder and Cobb it he will get less credit for winning and I agree with you. I, think the Lakers will win but he'll get less credit for beat a more dangerous opponent right now and does not have the chance to change the narrative of being the hunted one that was coming to get his. He's there he's waiting for a colliding get their did not let Lebron off the hook in fact, it robbed abroad of the opportunity to prove definitively that he's the guy although as I said Lebron I got it. Wrong. Looks like you're still the guy would have been better for him to prove it against coli. Well you got Senate all keep a short sweet I don't think Lebron is off the hook for this. Well. Let me say this unfortunately, that's what we wanted to stay Lakers clippers in the western Chris Final we all want to see that but at the same time. I think the Boston will go out there in handling businesses show he's the best player in the. League. But like you said, both of you said if The Braun in the Lakers somehow loses. To the Denver Nuggets what HAP- instead. You know. So if they lose to the clippers like, okay, we've clippers fight a bit better, but if they lose to the Denver Nuggets. What am safe. So I think I say I'M NOT GONNA say pressure but I don't think he's off. The Hook is appoint Stephen You said this before if the Lakers. Do not shoot well from three point line. They'RE GONNA have trouble in this series that should fit from to which ranks them I in the playoffs with a sheet thirty, six percent. From three, which ranks them. Big Hits shots because when Ron road or if a eighties Roman the. Double. Team can say what are you gonNA lose to someone else by his joke shots the underprivileged. Well. I'm not trying to imply listen I i. think that that Max you're not get what I'm saying I'm not saying that Lebron was looking forward to not going against Kawhi Leonard or whatever. Like he was scared of something it was an encounter we were all looking forward to if you go up against Denver Events and cal, who's we can't make shots and Danny. Green can't make shots and rondos missing shots and Kentavious call well, Pope and everybody else but Lebron and a D. average over thirty and they don't fold in fourth quarters but somehow some way nobody else steps up devers shooting the ball the way to, of course, it would be bad but nevertheless. They're a good team. We have to respect them what I'm saying to you is that if Lebron and the lake is going against the clippers we. Wide Versus Lebron is a separate story. It's a separate story in itself with this series. It's the Lakers versus the nuggets, of course led by Lebron with the Lakers versus the clippers. The Lakers clippers is la but is also Lebron versus watch the two time NBA Finals MVP coming at you claiming the crown. As as you pass say I'm the future Cetera et Cetera let's go and then he goes into a conference finals and he gives it to Lebron that would have been a disaster if Lebron given it to him libra would've said you must have forgot and that would have been great. But without that now, you just playing basketball and you hoping your other whole. Why would have been different but when you say let off the hook if you answer, let off the hook the implication at least what I infer from that is there's a hook to be on like you don't really want it right to me based on what's happened so far Lebron would have been better off on the so-called as you describe it because he would have had a chance to prove that he's the head to head and given the way just played. There's a good chance that would have happened especially since Lebron supporting cast has way bigger in these playoffs think. Let's not forget. The Lakers don't have nudity. The Lakers have a new coach all that stuff. The clippers have more continuity the same coach largely the same team except to the two superstars, right? Not as much turnover otherwise, and yet there's Lebron waiting and Kawai not there now Lebron has a. Match up against the nuggets I'm here to tell you a more dangerous team obviously, and he'll get less credit for it. and. Let me just. Go on I. Think we said we want we said Lebron said. They took care of business. He said Okay you. WanNa. See US first clippers. Let me. Let me make sure my team takes of business and make sure we're in the western conference finals. Now, why do that and I'll see you that and into Mexico point they didn't co why? Well like I. Said days ago. The fact that yesterday rather look I did get it done. That's the one him. That's not that's not Lebron's fault but the headaches are being paraded with swabbed with questions every single day about him versus. In that storyline all of that stuff he no longer has to concern himself would that's number one, number two and three, number two and three Max. First of all, I, did you know that I didn't absolutely correct I did not infer that that means he was on a hook. So he was let off the hook and number two and more importantly I almost never infer what you infer because I think nothing like you. And I'm proud of that. Okay. I'm glad we about that is not the maybe the best. Things I I'm proud. Yes. I'm very. Ex-. Show next time. Please don't play ball control and eat up the clock the whole time I mean it's not fair you got. Max Chance to speak. Appreciate. Adventure. All. Right. So even after setting franchise records for the panthers last season including a career high one, hundred, twenty nine tackles last season free agent Safety Eric remains unsigned, the Twenty Eight Year Old Safety Join Colin Kaepernick and filing a grievance against the NFL players subtle with the lead back in February on Wednesday retold the Associated Press that he's not received a single offer nor invite for team visit since the team released him in March Capture Nick defendant read this week tweeting this quoth while the NFL runs propaganda about how they care about black life. They're still actively blackballing Eric read for fighting for the Black Community Eric set to franchise records last year and is one of the best defensive players. In The League. Stephen Hey Shirley. Curious explain to me from your vantage point. Why do you think angry doesn't have a job? Because they perceive him as being a pain in the neck is just as simple. Here's the deal about being Black Ball Colin Kaepernick has clearly been blackballed unfairly, I might add We should thank him and Eric Reed of for the fight that they've put forth on our behalf. There's no question about that and I've tried to say this to Eric agreed indirectly or directly in the past but unfortunately, that's That's not something he nor Colin Cabinet Camps Cal Catholics camp get if you don't agree with them one hundred percent much lockstep with them. One hundred percent you are against him and it's the most annoying thing in the world because you can agree with ninety nine percent of it it's not enough. It has to be one hundred percent with them or nothing at all your the enemy, your sellout you dish that, and that becomes a bit problematic. Colin cabinet has been blackballed. That is true. Last time I checked Colin capital has been out of the League refresh my memory Max, and molly hasn't that been since two thousand and sixteen. It's a rhetorical question because the answer is yes. While Eric Reed didn't have that problem even after taking a knee even after speaking on behalf of Colin Cabinet on numerous occasions even with all the support that he has given collar cabinet is conspicuous as he has been and his quest to call out the National Football League even joining Colin Kaepernick a grievance against the NFL. The man still had a contract and was in the national. Football League. So, when you say he's being blackballed well, wait a minute now. Okay, well, what would be the reason for that? We know the reason for your call and cabinet. But Whatever That may not necessarily be the case at some point in time what they have to recognize the fact that there's black people every one of US walks into a job every day understanding we're operating behind the eight ball we have to be twice as good to get half as much. We gotta go through the political terrain, some of us, handle it better than others no doubt some of us are more joint at handling it. Some of US know what mine fields to avoid. Some of US have to learn more than others. Some of US have to exercise more patients than others, etc, etc the. Point is is that if you don't usually going to end up suffering no matter how unfair that is a make no mistake it is unfair. It is a reality that every black person in this nation faces every single day we get up walk out the door and have to deal with the terrain that involves maneuvering yourself do when it comes to corporate. America Eric Reed evidently doesn't want to go through that. I don't blame him for not wanting to go through that I don't blame for being tired of it. I don't blame them for being frustrated over it and even coming across as A. Tom's because he has a valid point. But in the end, the reality is, is that we all have that point and at some point in time you have to recognize what you have to deal with what you're willing to deal with if you. Want to be a part. Of A particular organization, it's the National Football League. This is what they're going through and you consistently calling them out. Oh, Colin Cabinet consistently call them out clearly is not going to work because of Colin Kaepernick is back in the league. What makes you think the priority would be for you to be back in the League is gifted as I. Think we all recognize Eric read to be to some degree I. think those are the kind of things that he has to think about moving forward. I'm not saying he's wrong I'm saying that ultimately it may not be about Colin capping it might be about we're tired of hearing your mouth. Colin Cabot blackball without question Eric Reed was in the League in the aftermath of all of that I. Don't think his case is strong as Colin Kapp Knicks in terms of the word black ball, he just might be a pain in the neck that people don't want to deal with. Well Steven as a black man, you're saying that you understand through experience. And I understand it many dudes who just being culturally aware and sociologic wear that. that. Yeah. It's black people or you know behind the eight ball in many respects because of because of institutional racism. Really. Okay and cultural preferences of many. Get that and I think it's right. I think it's also incumbent upon white people and allies of not just black people but of. People of. Goodwill. To step in and say, hold on hold on. You can't just. Discriminate against this. Because as a black man, he should know that he can't get uppity. Right that he that he needs to know his place that he should shut up dribble. Now No, it's incumbent upon others not just black people but allies of good people to say and socially conscious people to say. No, it's not alright. So I'm here to tell you it's not a right. Not, all right. What did he do? He pointed out that Colin Kaepernick is being used as propaganda right now by the NFL, which is true. How dare they use the image of Colin Kaepernick kneeling when he doesn't have a job forget about not having a job doesn't have a job. Forget about not having a job offer won't be given a look won't be given a try out unless he signs a waiver that is not the standard waiver, but in Denton defies the League against. or at least gives waive certain rights of Colin Kaepernick and gives the League some legal cover going forward. Why why does anyone else has to sign that waiver to get a workout? It's ridiculous. Here's he liked to be white ball. He'd like to have at least an opportunity to have a job. So Eric now Colin Kaepernick's you can case the league some can even credibly say not that they're not even giving them a look but at the time look remember this argument and I even backed off at first maybe cabinet wants starter money or starting role and he's kind of a bubble starter right now and they're like you're a backup. That's not agreed Evergreen forget about the number of tackles last year there's like tackle sharp analytics tackle expectancy above whatever I forgot what the matter of fact I have the analytic in front of tackles above expected it uses personnel in pre snap personnel groupings pre snap stuff to figure out how many more tackles above expected to you have eric among the league leaders. He's twenty eight years old he's in. His physical prime he's really an excellent defensive player. He can't. He doesn't have a job offer his coach. Ron Rivera even saying, yeah, we'd have them here too. We have Landon Collins who they obviously think is even better and they made a move to go get. So he doesn't work here. You need to tell me no other team thinks he works no other team so so he can't get a look. At the contract offer, one of the better defenders in the League doesn't have a contract offer why? Because he correctly points out that the league is using capper Knicks image as propaganda four league that drummed him out. That's why and let me tell you what the problem is. This goes to the heart of the situation. Why do we really love sports and why has sports been a melting pot that the rest of the country sometimes hasn't been because it's meritocratic it's supposed to be closer to a true meritocracy than other walks of life. If you can't hit a curveball, doesn't matter who your daddy is, you can't make it in the major leagues right. This goes to the heart of that. On the merits Eric Reid is one of the better players in the league and he doesn't have a job offer because he spoke truth to power and I'm supposed to think well I. Guess it's gotTa be that way because black people need to know what to shut up or any player needs to know when to shut up to hell with them. This is disgraceful by the NFL. Fine. The part that makes it very, very uncomfortable. For us to have these conversations on I take is that I don't disagree with you. At all I completely saw what you Max. But the point that I'm trying to come to is that. You're not. Black. So, what I'm talking about as a black person is not that Max Kellerman is wrong is that realistically the game doesn't work for us. Let me give you an example. Last year, Super Bowl. Tart. Ward Off Matthew. Go to the Honey Badger tyron matthew are along with. I, think it was Sorenson. They would've safeties that started in the Super Bowl last year. Every read is better than at least three of them. One could argue he could give all the. Money, we can sit up the NCAA whether you're strong safety or Free Safety Eric Rica Star for twenty teams in the national. Football League. You talk to teammates that played with him. He's a good leader in the locker room. He comes ready to play. He definitely focused. There's nothing about football that should deny eric read a roster spot in the national football league as a starter. That's how big time he is. So now that we get away from the football field, now we're talking about all the things that you just alluded to as a white person, and this is what a lot of black people don't get when they look at me Max a lot of times and you notice to be true maxed. There's a Lotta Times that I'll agree with you on these particular subjects but I'll leave if the you to say why because what America needs to hear from you More. So than me or another black person because we're whistling into the win, it's unproductive ineffective. It's just noise he's coming from US but when it comes from one of their own, who's fair-minded enough whose sole is a right place and he has the facts to back it up an appeal when the pigmentation and the culture is identified with them and you're the one spewing it that you that is what is best. Coming from you instead of me sometimes. So I notice having this poll Stephen be being one of the preeminent faces in this business I'm wise enough to know Stephen A. You don't have to take that. Let met say for you because Max's heart is in the right place he's got the facts to back it up. Right? It's the same principle when it comes. To the Colin Kaepernick's the Eric reads. It award another we heard you. We understand exactly what y'all is saying millions upon millions of people noted Jolla. Right. Where has it gotten y'all what GonNa do? Can we find a different way eric read to maneuver through this terrain so you can speak truth to power and bring truth to the table while still keeping your job. Collar cabinet I'd disagreement with the whole waiver thing when the tryout took place Max. Remember was whatever the waiver say both the UN had copies of it. What I was trying to say, was they never the NFL. In its history had never conducted a workout for one player particularly one who had filed a grievance and had settled agreements with the league. They were reticent about what would come with that and all of this other stuff. So what we were saying was if you're in front of the camera and all of us are watching Got You but in the end, they made the decision. Now we ate trust and nobody but ourselves not even the millions of people who would be watching and ready to hold the NFL accountable at some point in time. We have to know to do what? Sometimes on this show I admittedly do with you I feel exact same thing but it is best coming from you because if it comes from, me is just whistling into the wind but when it comes to corporate. That white power structure Matt Max Kellerman they need to hear from him. Somebody's gotTa have that mentality at some point. That's all of saying. Stephen A, I agree this is not a black problem. It's a white problem this who is in How many black NFL owners are there zero not many general manager you mentioned in the NBA The team president who can really call their own shots right. So this is something that white people have to get straight and in terms of our basic apparent disagreements of this on time about this times you're talking about the way it is you're in philosophy is called descriptive. You're describing the way it is and I'm talking about the way it should be normative. This is the way it ought to be, and you're right part of that is white privilege and I'm happy to use mine to speak truth to power as well. Brady if the browns lose this defcon one baby, it is defcon one in Cleveland because let me tell you. They've given Baker Mayfield everything every type of resource possible to make him successful and Greenie if he loses game listen. Don't. Let me tell you but I just don't think the guys are good. Harry is the man himself. Freshly Shaven. Damien woody here with us. Good to see you. Sir. Good to have you back I. Liked Alpha. I know Stephen is going to be mad about the time I give you the stamp of the approval for what it's worth. Tony. He. Can't say anything. Thing to me. Hold on. Let me take the laser things so. I was getting ready to tell you. I know blades a little I. Don't know why needed. Nice I don't need their from you though okay. Already know this man Laurette. Don't make me deal with you know maybe. You've got quite. Let me go. You spoke to you. On a chillier right now, you better use the. Energy running dropped a couple. LB's okay. All the he does he. Got It. Sure does look like eyebrows done. He really does. That has got to get a hold of wardrobe. So we in there. All. Of This is coming from a woman. I will never knock man for taking care of himself for working out for good hygiene for grooming I am with all of it. Okay. So that's a woman's opinion will leave it there fell us talk to me talk to me about Baker Mitch does matter not even just because covert because it's nasty if you don't a Stephen A. With. You on this one. Is Baker Starting Ono. They want to start that's what I'm told Okay we're Breaking Normal Code Damian Europe I obviously you had the heartache is Baker starting job on the line Well let's I. Don't think he gets out to this game, but I think is all all the alarms are GONNA BE OFF IF CLEVELAND LOSES GAME TO CINCINNATI Bengals all sound off in in Berea Ohio. Listen God's it's real simple. It's real simple. The Cleveland Browns has surrounded Baker? Mayfield with everything imaginable imaginable. They went out they traded for older Beckham they traded for Jarvis Landry they signed Austin Duke Tight in physician in free agency they go on Sunday right of the Right tackle. They drafted him with their first big left tackle. They got to stuck running backs. What organization has surrounded they're young quarterback with more talent than Baker, Mayfield, okay and you who You get shellacked last week against the Baltimore, Ravens, I get it Baltimore Super Bowl contender maybe have the best team in the national fully I get it. Okay. You want here week to on Thursday night and you lose to the Cincinnati Bengals a team in the same state in division put the rookie quarterback and Joe Borough. Man It's going to be it's GONNA be a three alarm fire. In that in that organization and they're building if they lose tonight against the. Cincinnati bengals. Well listen three of the last five games of the regular season. Last year Baker Mayfield didn't even throw two hundred yards. and. This is what Odell Beckham. June you. This is what Jarvis Landry this is Kareem Hunt. This is Whitney. Chub and I think the thing that we have to pay attention to is the fact that you know Baker Mayfield is not only in sync has not only failed to be in sync with number one wideout, which was Odell Beckham Junior and we talked about Odell Beckham junior like he was a star even when he was. There with ally Manning and Eli. Manning was clearly over the hill and beyond his prom we still talked about Odell. Beckham Julia like he was a star all until he arrived Baker Mayfield. Now he's lucky to get headlines anything other than griping and I don't blame him for Griping because it's not his fault demand has opened Baker Mayfield can't give him the ball canton thank can't throw with the degree of accuracy he needs to be throwing. Throwing the ball, but then we have to pay attention to the fact that Baker Mayfield has also compromised a running game. No matter what from Nick, no matter what we saw from Kareem Hunt deer running game could have been better way guess what when you stack stacking the line of scrimmage because you're daring Baker Mayfield to throw the football that might compromise the running game and that's what we're looking at here. So Kevin Stansky, he's got an up. With a hill climb to partake and we gotTA look at at the Cleveland. Browns are just say listen Baker Mayfield opened his mouth as I've said on many occasions. Demand had more commercials than wins with progressive alone last week last season rather and this season sure enough. Who Do you see on the new Hulu has live sports commercials it would be Baker Mayfield with Saquon Barkley you just look at it and he's getting his money. He's getting his shine he's doing everything being productive in return for the you know those kind of accolades that have been thrown in his direction, the opportunities that have been thrown in his direction. So the way I look at it is that you know again, if he goes out there this tonight and gets outshined by a rookie in his second Scott who didn't even have a preseason, the work of Enjo- borough that will speak volumes about the Cleveland browns organization, the direction that they're moving in a with Baker. Mayfield, I definitely think this is a key game. For because let's face reality is a whole bunch of people in the National Football League who have lost faith in Baker. Mayfield. They just don't believe in him. I'm not talking about myself. I'm talking about NFL analyst and NFL players they look at his Moxie and what he did on, call it on the college level but they thought he talked too much trash and they really really locked in on him and they don't believe in him as an NFL talent meaning being a star in the national football league. They do not view him that way at all well. You both make good points and I'm a little bit of a Baker apologised load. A certain point you know coaching makes a big difference, the NFL's coaches league, and when you talk about the bengals like you can't lose in your own division to a rookie quarterback and all that not all first overall picks or created equal, not all rookie classes are created equal, and in fact, there's no preseason for anyone this year. So when you look at Baker Mayfield and consider like I, look at Alex Smith. Number one overall pick right and there were guys later in the draft you'd rather obviously have Aaron Rodgers, for example, but Alex Smith was a bust although you could see. A quarterback but I don't look like a bus because every year turnover head coach oc, the whole. System and then finally when he had some stability that no, he's pretty good now. Look Baker. Mayfield's already doesn't look can be a star, but can he be a good NFL quarterback? Like a real one I think it's possible. Still you have to consider his entire career so far he's on his. Head coach in three years right because you Jackson's gotten rid of in the middle of that year then he has. This new O. C.'s new every single year. So I know a lot of talent around him and he should have produced more by now on the other hand it's more than talent is coaching in the NFL like teams with stacked with talent coaches. No good. It's not going to do much teams without a ton of talent but good coaching at least will be competitive. So I agree that it's a big moment for him because at a certain point no excuses also guys who were. Lucky enough to go to ghost good situations right away they get better and better, and if you don't have a good situation and a lot of turnover, you won't get better at a certain point that's on you. You're just not good enough because you haven't been able to develop but I would say we're still a little premature on saying, okay. This is for Baker Mayfield coming up because he really hasn't had a good coaching and not stability in this coaching his entire career so far. Well. Listen. Max. I'm just going to say it is you know as plain as I can. This this game tonight against you going against a rookie quarterback joe borough with no all season Max none. And if he goes out here in outshines Baker Mayfield that's a huge indictment on Baker Mayfield. There's a reason why Cincinnati Bengals were picking them one they were awful. They were atrocious last year and a job bourboule comes out here and lights it up i. mean he played he played really we played pretty well against the Los Angeles chargers who has a very good deficient. gave him an opportunity to win the game if the kicker could make a chip shot field goal if he goes out here and excels against the Cleveland. Browns. The To me that tells me all. I need to know that tells me all I need to know about Baker. Mayfield. Moving forward and possibly by the Cleveland Browns, we look on to the rest of the season. Listen Man I. Mean I. Did when you look at Baker Mayfield, I mean, what? What can you say really you know he was drafted number one saquon was drafted number two Sam Donald was number three and even though Sam Donald Struggling in New York City. We all know us because Adam Ace we no, it's not him The reality of the situation is that when you look at Baker Mayfield the biggest mistake Baker Mayfield made was opening his mouth and being so forceful in getting. Hugh Jackson out. Of Cleveland and ultimately Freddie Kitchens becoming the head coach because again instead of being a rookie learning the ropes and doing what you needed. To do in order to fit in the solidify yourself as a worthy talent on the NFL level you already talking as if you were an accomplished individual on the NFL level and that rubbed people the wrong way. Now, it doesn't matter if you go out there and produce but when you but but you're going to be challenged and when you don't answer the challenge, you don't answer the call. Then all of that stuff is backdrop for people to look at you point the finger at you and say who the hell is. This guy think he is he's not worthy and that's where people are now. So he has to scratch and claw his way. or or do all of that stuff improved he's worthy and if he doesn't do it, Damien woody is right. He's going to take a lot of hits for because that's how people are looking at him now like he's not worthy. Logistic legit criticism both he and Darnold. Turnover he more than darnold. Joe Borough beats them with no preseason as a rookie with that means Joe boroughs better than than Baker. Mayfield. I think we agree about that. Already you'd rather have burrowed and Baker Mayfield based on what you saw in college and you know how they're perceived right now doesn't mean Baker Mayfield can't be a successful NFL quarterback. All right. Molly. Trillion I know you gotta go ahead I know you gotta go molly but just as a reminder y'all guys picked after Baker Mayfield I'm reading saquon Barkley Sam, Donald Denzel, Ward Bradley Troub-. In Nelson. Mick Fitzpatrick. That's just to name a few. Yeah. All of them passed all bowlers for Baker. Mayfield. All Damian I saw you that you were duty. Oh there in New York on get up. We'll be seeing you next week. I take. We're going to be back in studio on Monday. So looking forward to seeing you in person there have a fabulous week and we'll talk to you soon. Sir. All right now. Oh. Felt insular game one literally. At. The hands of Bam out of I and the heat game twos tonight on ESPN. Heat Celtics Yuna. What is Stephen A. I know it's early in the series but I feel like it's fair to ask is it a must win for Boston Approach. With this I don't think they can afford to fall down I. I'll take it Max. I don't think they can afford to fall down to the Miami Heat the rough riders that they are sniffing at a championship round matchup against whoever's going to be come out of the West I. Think they're for Jason Tatum in the crew to survive and have really have a legitimate chance of winning this. Series they've got win game two tonight and I'm going to call on Kemba Walker. Let's understand something criminal Kemba. Walker has no crispell. He's not a floor general a floor orchestrated that's not his game even though he's your point God, it's his ability to put the ball in the hole spending the first seven eight years of his career is the number one offensive option. That's what makes Kemba Walker. That's what makes him somewhat of a poor man's replica of of Kyrie Irving Kemba Walker shoot. He can score in the club she can get to the holy can finish at the basket. He certainly could hit three. He's got an offensive arsenal that quite frankly we haven't seen from him for the most part during these last few playoff games he's got a step his game up Goran dragic is doing his thing. He's got to answer that call to help out Jason, Tatum, Jaylen, Brown, and Marcus smart in order for Boston. They have a chance in this series are predict he'll do it tonight because he better Boston. Needs to win the night to make sure they have a legitimate shot at funnels. I can't call this a must win but I call it a damn good idea to win the reason I won't call it. A must win is they haven't had Gordon Hayward they won't have him tonight and what if they didn't have Gordon Hayward if you emerge from that one one that's really bad for the heat one of your better players, a lot of really good players but one of your best players, one of your four best players, which is what makes this unit really formidable. Not being available should be. An advantage to the other teams who even if you go down to given the fact that the most talented player in the series is on the Celtics in Jason. tatum given the fact that the Celtics can really shoot it and defend I wouldn't say being down. Oh to even to a very tough team is insurmountable So I can't call it a must win. It's a sure is a good idea to win, but I don't think it's a Must-win. Good idea I give you that that's a new category I never heard of never heard of that category before molly sure is a good idea. 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Of Return, Rohan, and Ripples

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Of Return, Rohan, and Ripples

"Huddled together at last, the happiest place on Earth descend into the doubling doth, the new normal includes masks, sanitizers and distance every day, but practicing this whatever now it's the ball. Is They your favorite NBA podcast in an Indian accent back after a week of micro content expedition Matvey had more fun than the audience. Hopefully that changes in the coming weeks as you're probably aware the NBA. Commissioner Adam Sandler has announced that the association will in a reduced capacity with twenty two teams vying for a place in this year's lockdown playhouse, all the Games will be played at the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando Florida close to what is affectionately for the happiest place on it. Speaking of happy I've got with me is always a big fan of the singer ferrall medium fan of old based video, editing software and a small fan of the, Hungarian? Co, host, we need the. What is really come back to the? What is that I wish I could say it's been a hot minute, but it's not an I'm. Glad, we do this. How did that how how we enjoying all the videos video? We've been doing for the David takes. I've been enjoying it so I mean. People. Who've you're watching regularly and common? Don All posts. Regularly regular viewers. You know we gotTa Hustle yes CICIS. Of course. Yes, by the way we have a guest today, we have a dubious yesterday. You want to introduce the guest introduced. Something yes. That's okay. Today on the board. We've got with us. Someone who's got a lot in common with the policy podcast. What we are to Indian, NBA fans. He's the Bollywood funds except he is more famous, accomplished has insanely good looking labs. We had extremely tough to welcome Bollywood selloff onto for an NBA fan at. One welcomed the port. Glad you could make some thank you. Thank you for having me all the time in the world. We really glad that. It does not make us feel any less. Special is one thing we have in common. A lot of. Talk. But thank you for having me it, so it's a pleasure I was actually having this conversation with Ashwin. As well beneath the the fact that I don't really get to talk to a lot of NBA offended because most of my friends are football. And it's find is either ranting inventing from the minute that I started talking to. Have not the thing I. Hate I hate those. He was extremely excited. And you don't need any scale to kick a ball. Come on. taught takes. Takes takes in the beginning. A run. Like like I, said you know starting off again July thirty first. They're gonNA. Put everyone in a big bubble and then. have a tournament. Dave release the details of their the. Plasma will be staying and all the comedy based on on that sex and be done via Kobe nineteen. Nineteen testing on all about. At the base of it. Just basically means that the NBA's back. So are you excited like? Oh, be excited, being up early and watching those games is the opposite and watch the Games. But I am I am excited to watch I am excited to what sport again I think. It'd be a great distraction. I've been sitting at home for two months watching old. NBA stuff so watching. Live Sport I mean nothing beats that right, so it's great, although although I still have to mention Gary. and His. Guy, big. Guy The different. He's a different podcasts. A guy we need. What about you are you excited for the and Do you think they are rushing it in a little bit. No I think I think I think differently played if you're if you have all the safety measures in I think. It's great for the fans. If the players WANNA play no problem with it but I. Think you know I have set my thoughts on the daily. Dick's nobody wants to look at it. Go to our instagram channel and look at our daily take. Hashtag I. Say yes more of that. But Okay I. mean you bet did since you did mention thanks for getting me to Segue. Up. Do things for US thing he said. Don't stop the League. Second thing is like will start a different legal. I. Mean van his mind working like waters, the I I don't know. My. Only concern is with with what's happening with Kyrie if approved on that as a down effect, while the players and other players opt out Dwight Howard, if uses to play for the label it's it's going to affect the game. If you if you don't ask the players playing and like. I don't know I. Mean the thing is. Not In that position we I. don't know exactly what's happening in America. Were about what's happening in New, York entity I'm not so familiar? What's happening in Orlando and the State of Florida? But what I am looking at is s of the wood. Is You mean sporting activities and taking all precautionary measures, and it seems to be working at the the gentleman's of managed it the English of started again, the Spanish of done it, and they all suffered greatly and the Italians motive. Baden started as well. So, I don't know I think people need that destruction before need that that ability to watch their heroes again and you know SORTA. Get get inspired google. I don't know. I, I'm excited for it. And, Vista a bit Whitey that a lot of players might not agree to play, that's. Killer. Does so fatty comes on Vinita Aviv. They've already reduced as as as out of thirteen hundred twenty twenty two teams with a chance of making the playoffs. Come to Orlando, so in some ways that itself is reduced the pool of people that. Testing I mean I think he's a concern. Was Not just over ninety nine. Obviously like you're. Telling the entire like Anti USA, you stay inside. Don't do this. Don't do that guaranteed not to get their haircuts now. You're asking to go play A. Movement like a Colin Kaepernick has been doing it for yours. Whitey's on on the football and he got mullane forwarded, but I have to mention Gaulan cabinet because I'm a huge NFL fan as well. and. So for me, it's just it. It just vindicates him and the players can protest man like even the Premier League for instance yesterday, Every Single Leo from every team wore black lives, matter at the back of digital's rather than their names, which is such a big statement took the knee before the game Manchester. City was as Austin big game lodge viewership all across the planet. You know so. They're making a statement and I think that that kind of statement of unity through sport is is very, Baldwin. I agree with him. I think Griffin definitely damaging at all. I mean I've had this argument with a lot of. People on the on the NBA Wallace Group. If, you don't remember. Is that Mike Gordon goes to jail because of his involvement in the you know in the social movement and rewarding full. For me, you know. Once you reach a certain level of. Status as an athlete What you stand for makes most. Of a impact where everybody around. Then, just you know how how you can jump in. And I think some of the players already items. In the US NBA is a very progressive league. So if some of the players WanNa take a standard, and if the only way they can think of taking a stand is by knock claim than you know. We have to support what day one of the? Because the last thing you WANNA do. Is You want to be on the wrong side of this? Movement you know you you don't WanNa. Be The wasn't that was talking about entertainment via the people protesting about equality. True True, you have a very valid point. I'm trying to figure out guiding saying that while this is happening. This is happening of. We should not be playing. It's not like sports is a distraction. It's not like sports is not of face for the League. Like the NBA is. A video should league. Huge huge on into got Hewitt on that, it's like it's the most. Hostile sport in the late link, the dunk contest, and all the get a huge volume, so why not use that platform to? Tell America. Latino v will do this, but we will not let you forget it. Instead of letting is agents because it's not like the black lab. Woman's hasn't made any changes that are still. I mean the people who are very in the murder of Friday got arrested convicted still are. That's going on I. Mean it's not like. The movement has stopped complete. Your needs to stop competing that still is a system. is still so much. Talk of you know making sure your inequality doesn't last all of that site. I mean sports is also. it's such A. People identified to it so much more than you when you talk religion, when politics sports is so much more basic for even being so I think I think this question comes down to whether you're looking at influencing the general public, or it's an absolute personal opinion like what area is and what other? Of, might have a an what they want to stand for. That's the thing, right? How do you then them tonight? Because it's it's? They're the ones who the victims, so it's. It's a very difficult. It's a catch twenty two for US visas fans. We'd obviously want the game to continue little to watch. Basketball being played, but I mean just. This this game back to me I shouldn't be at this discussion the other day. Also it it. It's it also begs the question that Lake Stevens Smith Ost on full stake ESPN where he questioned ideas, intentions and he was like A. If gabby was fit. and. Nets were seated one. In the East would guide. These have the same stunts. Again I, think you know. Probably knows is better, you know. He's been in in ward all high media. Award and you know media has avail changing matic. Through are very easy and providing questions rather than answers that can really kind of insult. People's thinking I think obviously one of the problems. Is that the question? That's being asked as Bass by Kyrie Irving? Who has a very polarized? Of! Louis Statement. I mean he just put a big hole himself a law that does dig a hole for himself all the time, and so I think that's part of the you know the debate. I mean I think if it was someone like maybe Lebron or Steph Curry. Asking this question, I. Think it would have a very differently action I Agree I. Did you read what a bag than we did? I did I did yes, if Lebanon place then, if King James is hoping we're hoping I thought that was such a such a positive thing. You know it's A. It's a different perspective like I said guys. Might might have suffered some sort of. Something in his life and his family, you never know. Sources dramatic there that it's it's a very difficult situation. It's such a personal thing just like Dwight Howard I mean Dwight Howard. Finally enough is in the number one seed in the west and he opted not to play chasing his visiting. I don't know really be a hall of Famer. Dwight Howard is a hall of fame candidate audited, but if he gets. He gets probably might get easily I, no I don't think so. It should be no. He just had his each take. A very small five year run and I don't think you should have. A Hall of fame was just as sharp sharp run. That's that's just my bustle opinion. He had a very sharp, but a very dominant, very very dominant, but still sean I blame. Kobe Kobe for mice weather. Do you go Kobe to career Shack and Dwight Howard? Did he kill shack on, Cash Accu Shack. Shack giving three rings. You should just be happy about it. No shock was the most dominant force at the dame in the NBA. But Shaq was also the laziest rate and he's gone. But that doesn't mean he wasn't. The most dominant goes he the most dominant like he went through the heat. One of the yeah, so I mean I I'm sure action has a lot of thoughts about this, but let's one koby. No I mean. I would love to hear your thoughts. It's a very interesting one. Voted Action. Let, the Kobe Fan. Oh I thought he was talking about. The. I can't fight it. You lose. Like vinnie venue, keep saying silly things like Out. Coby did everything that he could, and I think it was the end of the end of time four of the run for can leak us. He could not have done anything more. I mean so I needed to get angry. He was getting comfortable. Many kept winning rings, and he kepting all him. They kept getting getting I'm getting more into a SOx legend and obser- that's all separate, but he needed to be pushed out so that he could be like okay. We'll be I'M GONNA go to deviate and then held them. The show them that you know shock and local. We made the mistake trying to kick me off. It had to be done like like. Be Hot to lose to the Celtics to you know. Get Mad that like really pissed off and this yacht to get humiliated on. To be really pissed off. Come back next year. You know beat the Magic Comeback next beats sent like some things have happened. Father things dropping. I think Oh my God. Okay find some things have to happen for the things happen that okay fine okay. I Love I love your romantic nostalgic. You also made it spiritual. He's getting there. See. I'm just saying. You know. You after you have to to Jordan for him. Out To say Hello Tony. Point is okay you. You pushed out the most dominant force, and then you didn't do anything for five years. Until you've got Assad. Who by the way was, he was pleased with spock on call me Braun. What. What would you see? Ninety may have you seen Lebron James's. Dietary Lynn Cavaliers two thousand dollars. and. Then what did the name one player from that from? That was from those seven years. Mild Then edits nope. Label the Cleveland Cavaliers. Adding Williams. Who Good was the? Williams. That Lebron James. Anderson But Lebron left. He walked out on the east. Then he came back. To get an again. Black and Gorby would never leave Lebron. Leave, Ohio, man. Why would anyone? Beverly Hills. You can imagine why anyone would want to leave a the with. Even if it's your hometown man the, it wasn't anything to do in search. But it's always the question. The decision and it's it's so hyped. It did I think what is good I think he did the right thing. I think the issue. A lot of people had was that he left, but it's the way he left. You know he had this press conference. He ran the. Know. I'm leaving and then he went and had this big celebration where they will not one not. So I think I think it was not what about the kid that he would Lebron had the kids in the background as well like a bunch of kids sitting down. When he was giving that decision. That I think. Is how you know the marketing genius liberal like I. Think He made the announcement that whatever comes out of this proceedings I'll give it to the started like I'll do the damn, but they can take the I just wanted to. He doesn't want. thinking. Because he knew that was the only thing I mean. Maybe. I need to I need to. A little game to the fire so Here's a huge fan of Michael Donahue try I think he started watching so. I'm thinking of how yes, it can you please that you know how you came into basketball now? He started watching the NBA and your first impressions of the Game Yard Interaction. Will? They will discuss the last after discuss need. Some heartaches. Okay, so for me. The nineties NBA was. Very difficult to watch I was still in school and. To, try and follow as much as I could. I watched the confidence playoffs, and I find the conference finals and the finals. That much I would miss. I would watch as much as again when I started getting educated about the sport, which would be about ninety, six, ninety seven. And if despoiled at the time was only about Jordan. Even before we had heard about the NBA everybody knew Michael Jordan. That's that's what it was. In the nineties, it was music was Michael Jackson. Athlete was either Jordan or Michael Johnson Sprinter. All of such Indo good for anybody from Bombie, but I mean that, was it. We didn't have so many icons because football was increase in India. Nobody wants the NFL nobody's still watching baseball, and fortunately, although I'm a huge baseball fan, as well what I lived in New York a Yankees Fan. So you live in New, York Knicks Fan. That's all I can say. No. So. Do you actually follow any? which is your favorite team I? Mean I know you've said that you don't have one, but you. You should be a fan of. Well I mean the thing is for me. It's the narrative that changes. The narrative with the NBA is always constantly changing with the amount of trades with the amount of. Just like okay CNN Sherwin. Do like. Snake extremely slavery underclass May. Boost and because MJ and when MJ left, and the Bulls have still recovered. And once the Bush anymore that five years later is. What do I do like Derek? Laws was great and stuff like that, but I mean that's all it was. This got these. Little highlights of of what was a dynasty joking Noah yes. Exactly so I started watching that. And I the first CDs I watched was the ninety seven. Jazz Blues. And the next deal I watched the basis and the Bulls and then. The jazz and Blues. Again and that was the end of Jordan for me at. I mean obviously the Nikkei in back as as a wizard, and then I've watched it again. No, we we don't. We don't those all man. He's scored fifty many times. Asked twenty eight. Fifty at thirty eight, he was founding given a net in particular. Please watch that on Youtube. If you can find it. It was one of April Jordan's last. It was he was Jerry. Stackhouse the visits will really crap. MMA Jordan had thirty, eight, thirty, nine, still hitting shots on Cagey, gauge G in two, thousand and two. Come on the East I stole Katie's I came into the League. Did. Like. No, I'm not doing it, but. I think people are just scared off Don. Bs Police, oh so based on. The with MG. Be Like my Air Jordans. All of that that people have seen on the last dance now I mean show. I know that you guys get skewed I check out on instagram. But, but for me for me I looked at him as a hero at eight. I mean it was it was one that was. He was just better than everybody else, and it was like watching something that was that was great. Players have see I've seen olajwon scene of scene shack of single be seeing all of these over deals, but energy was that Johnson Dallin, that everybody else looked up to so those guys are looking up to him. I mean. You can only imagine what we were like us. Fans like Michael Jordan was taking fadeaways and low percentage shots and hitting them in this. Man League value positional. I never watched. Jordan dive I mean I really. That's the part of basketball I kind of missed, I don't think even. I shouldn't watch live right. No, no, no, no never never Chicago Bulls. I started off the Lakers as a Lakers fan. Shackling Gobi in a shack in Korea Yup. I actually like the spoils at that thing. Well I switched to. This was right after that I started off. You know I mean Shaggy Kobe like the most entertaining dominant like it was easy to notice easy to do. To support them meaning he did the Lakers. I always say the Lakers I wanted the Portland Trailblazers to beat them. They lost within I wanted I watched that I watched that I watched. The Sacramento Kings get cheated out of that. By by the Netflix. Against the Lakers with C., web? Page! which and those guys and Bibi? Bibi yes, and it was hot breaking. Just the Lakers just kept winning and Phil Jackson's over there and it just it all wrong. As a Bush fan on. You're looking at that shit man. Egos and he's I. Now. He's right. You Got Right Scott Soften Jackson. and. So that's why I supported the spurs because they had two big men, and I was still the center, and I still have I still like that sort of basketball over the three point that other witnessing now so do you. Are you a fan of Nikolai Yokich? I mean I haven't seen much of him to be terrorists. Lowers I've seen. Dante Labor haven't seen Yoga's much. Wasn't Yoga Ginger for the way? No no in the beginning of the season. I think it was he didn't. On getting him confused with the guy from the trailblazers all. Your York, knock. against. Which? Use of Yousef. The Fat. Guy Who begin ten Gano nuggets the nuggets. Go then when the yes. Yes, yes. Lost the trailblazers last year. Right in the industry. Yes, yes, in game seven. Yeah, yeah, I. I've watched a little bit of him. I I don't really. I don't watch. The nuggets play too much on for asa problem. Okay this morning team. SPAS OUTTA small. Status. They are small market. Bad enough but. That dynasty of the Spurs was something to witness man. How precipitously? I'm just saying that because he's. The Does. This is going dedicated. Don't agree that they were to hide working. Even like this is an audience, mom and me I've heard this. So many so different in different accents and different. Put a stop to that. And I'M GONNA. Ask you to. See You like events. You have follow dorms. was. The most exciting thing for you in that last dog went. There's something that made you see Jordan. Even bigger, light or something that'd be the skies. I started understanding what I was witnessing a child I mean personally. The first thing is the first episode to mirror eight back to when I was working at five o'clock in the morning in my little bedroom at the time. I was used to stay with my bed and they used to hate the fact that I used to watch sports and not study and. I used to wake up I used to take a little blanket and put it underneath my door so that no light used to escape. is to watch the playoffs. That's how I used to watch. It is different reasons. I mean so for me. It took me right back to where I was as a child and then the insight that they give you about Mj. It's not always good stuff. I like that. I like the fact that they didn't I mean short. I mean they didn't show him. In a bad light at all in the documentary eventually begins not about the Bulls about end, but it's the latest documentary of all time, and it's the greatest thing I've seen ever I. cried about six time through the documentary and I'm not ashamed to say. I literally had deals in my as when Kobe's spoke about him when NGOs. That was when when Colby says hey man, it doesn't matter if we can, if I can beat them one on one. What do you see of me? Is from him all. My God still gives me goose bumps on me, and that's that's that's. That's really like you're paying homage. And it's on another level. That kind of respect and Kobi's not some scrub. Kobe's DOPSON NBA player of all time. And I wouldn't say. That's another debate, but I mean just just. The story is the stories stuff that what what the NBA was what it meant? What was the transition from the to? The nineties was I thought very well portrayed. The Senate takes to the Lakers to the Pistons. Then the coming of the Bulls, and you know, and just the nineties in general and Howard was the personalities that Augmon's and the stuff that you will never get the trash Getty Payton The stuff that saw we live in such a all politically correct would. That that kind of stuff doesn't work anymore, but how to get that advantage. As well on your opponent. is so crucial at the time to watch the neighbors a rough man it was it was guys playing guys and hitting each other and I'm doing anything to win. It was just about winning. It wasn't about being friends, and and let's all bond together and form a championship level team. And all these fun. It was about okay. You've been drafted by this KNOB. This team and your your you're you're you're an MG stood? The Ado's get doing nothing. And then eventually. A dynasties formed date, and and that it it just shows it shows I I don't know I love I'm I'm a huge fan of nineties basketball, and then the culture that it stood for. Just a little more politically correct now. A sign of the Times that we it's reflective in a lot of other sports. Not necessarily I mean I don't know sports for me. You know it's. Like. You're a real instincts menu out. I think he just kind of thing that we want to do your best, but we don't really want your. Instincts to come up. We wanted to be like a mellow down West. We want something that we didn't sell. As marketing is. What Lebron Lebron's tweet about? Shut up and play. Shut up and do this. Shut up and do that, but such a powerful tweet. Beneath A. As a like he has this problem at Md. no and not standing up for political politically correct not politically. You not lending. Support to certain do not caroline's and stuff like that. Yeah I mean that's. Choice I mean not everybody is is the greatest, Ali? Stood for something which was much beyond sports, right? That's where he transcended everything. But not everyone's like that. You know what I mean negative. He does even growing up as an Indian. Cricket Fan such never really stood up for anything political and stuff like that, because maybe not everybody has has it in them to go out in the public and give those sort of opinions. Maybe Jay was busy making money, and enjoying his life, and selling Jordan's and smoking cigars and gambling and what he wanted to do what he's. Suppose, he just wanted to focus on that I. Don't know it's it's a hard one to say because America's is a country that sold divided when it comes to these things because they also do believe in the prospect of the American dream which is essentially make as much money as you can. And we are the capitalist nation, and you know if you can get ahead if you can get ahead in life and make that money then good on you. Know that's that's actually what they believed. They don't like. When I lived as well like socialism doesn't really exist. That's why Bernie Sanders Ridiculous in American society. But I mean. It's it's it's. It's what us we look at at culture with relation to what we understand offered, which is different for the country right I mean everybody has their own ways of looking at it. So. It's it's a hard one for me that about engine, not choosing I mean obviously if he had chosen glorified himself even more, but he probably knew that and stood opted to not do it. I mean that's for bottlebuster We should him for dosages, but I mean I think of needs. Point was like you. That level of greatness become like an alley or someone like who gave it up. Artists speak. He gave it up many of the peak of his followers. He gave all that money making the I mean it was different? America I mean even gene equality invention. I mean so all the time I think I agree with the way Shenice put it, but I think when look at MD's career more. Apart from the basketball and stuff, right the basketball thing he is easy It's done whatever he has to do it. At a very high level, and I think like for example right. A lot of people say oh. He just wanted to win by. He literally stopped playing for two years. So. It's not that he just wanted to win. You know like he stopped for two years, and the reason is playing he he kind of put it in the documentary life he he lost his dad so much media, attention and You couldn't really handle it. But on the other hand you know. That are other athletes that take all the pressure from the media I'm probably not the kind of pressure that MJ had. And still perform I level. and I think that you know that that's what I kind of just feel like. He was such a big winner and he wanted to win all the time. Why did he take a break? Right. No, that's fine. No I dreaming, agreeing with that, but then. The negative but exit. That Base I. If. He's like I just in basketball or play basketball games and I don't want to get into the political stuff. Then invited a break from basketball. Right so. Those are places where I think the narrative breaks away. But again you're just picking out. A small staff about things you didn't he did. Come back and win three Saudi at this summer. I I, just have to say because yeah. He gave back and he won three league. And I think I think that's why he is kind of like. Maybe number one or two I mean for me is too, but for I would say ninety nine percent of the people that follow basketball is probably number. One is the number one player. Are Cutting. Okay but if in reasons obviously. I mean he was created the media. Though that's that's what he doesn't ever go popular I think ed the way I distinguish. It is Kareem. Is the greatest basketball player of our time and John is the best NBA player hard. So cutting, but really dominated all forms. you know in oil? Adding three eras was pretty dominant. He played different roles that he was once. The main scorer sides done everything as. Very short dominant around, but I'm extremely dominant. So. You can pick and choose what you want I think between the leading the three people that you can. You can pick and choose is bailed, US. How? MD and cutting like. Each one of them has done so much for this sport. that those are at the top three end. Everyone else is off of that mountain. Interesting. I mean for me I. Don't know too much about the other than the fact that he won eleven. That's all you need to know that. I shouldn't make an excellent debate I mean. We didn't have the deem. But was the better player, but this is this is this is this is a media created mid that. Did Not have any. If you look at Winston which I'm pretty sure has not. Ville steam concede. Vince beams consistently had all stats had consistently players scoring and averaging twenty plus. Years where Bill Steam, he was playing with the Philadelphia seventy success. Bad his team had more. Than the Boston Celtics. Right so, Vince teams were nausea. Check it out these these actual stags so yes. Smells, maps, but Undergrad the two point again I'm trying to say is that it's not that the Boston said because Benard admitted theme. but It's not because of the because bill made them A. Look at if you look at the spots. Monitor November Tony Parker are not the best place in the world. But you for them a Dunkin and they've been at eighty eighty percent of the games they play and riper, which and properties so a huge of. Yes used part and they had outbreak, but you may think so the point again against Andrews. Outback that over one without. Medicine has one airway I. So I mean my stands at sometimes is difficult to distinguish which coaches really good. When you have a player that for example Tim Duncan game in get up had never even paused for one full year as a head coach of any basketball team. So, how do you know he was good? Nobody knew he was good when he won the championship because of Tim, Duncan. Then is like he's really good that people are paying attention, even David Robinson. Dave. The US good in the Sinus, the numbers and see. I don't I don't need. Those. I watched them when the green dollars and it was such a big deal I mean. But I mean I'm not discounting dim Dunkin's greatness at Orland, but you're right. I, mean. I I. Better? Team because Bill Russell made them better team. It's not because he had better teammates. He made them But it's probability. Chamberlain also had good, but he didn't make them a better team. That's that's that's my point. See when basketball you'RE NOT GONNA win if your team is not better than the other, you're always at the end of the day. Depend on the team now. Bill Russell in my opinion, one of the best leaders of all time because he could elevates teammates I'd like he said I'm going to do this and you guys have to do this and I'm going to do my job at the best of ability and you're. Just, does this simple fact that your will average for points agape than sixty one sixty two season when Oskar avenues of triple double season, the MVP was neither. The MVP for what Bill. Because he made it impossible for the other team to think that they would like an Indian comedy. Does this a character Bali okay, and whenever he came in front leg, the other other team, the other person's strength just Houston half like. It you. It's a knowledge fact fact. backsitting numbers and a half. So when when you like even when you play. The strength me on the side of the David logical guarded. Boosted acquired. So even when you play, pick about you know that when you see that one player on the other team, you're like Oh my God. Now we have to really play hard. Otherwise you'll be possible, but there's one player will make it impossible for you to scored on them impossible to get beat so I either team made like if you have the tools of finding five. Stopping fire of all time that is not without. Magic Johnson Michael Jordan and build by like Dolphin. If you're making A. And then and then I think even if you have you need million. That even still still GONNA by. PUT, somebody. On a six foot, five guys. With all five pins. God does show. Just, GONNA stand into the top. But yet so because the team getting but I love bill because if I say that I was, would Ran Out of they'll be like I. S Great. Nobody bill to build to be the goats I have two plus other things I'm like. Yes, this government this. Is? I always say you have the Mount Rushmore of basketball and then you have. A. Suspect Special Mountain, but no one ever GONNA come on. He's unbeatable. He's the stuff is done. Like is ridiculous. It really is I. 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So, if I, give it, a shot and I, went to the studio and I actually got attracted a lot of the child aspect of it and a job for me is a very very big part of my life, because my grew up with my mom being an adult. So I used to always traveled with over where she whenever she flew. and. So I got attracted to that aspect so initially I wanted to be a travel photographer and realize that I wasn't going to make any money. So then be a lesser defendant, bad acidic. I decided to adult. Fashion Photography and So. I moved to fashion. I then only wanted to work with fashion. I didn't WanNa work with Bollywood because I was against the scared of China live up to my dad, because he had literally shot every single actor from the seventies to the. To the two thousand and So you to live up to that again was was difficult, so I vowed that I was never going to work with actors. Etcetera Etcetera and the next thing I knew I got a call up to work with an actor. Shoot turned out to be a magazine cover of them. which was the biggest deal because I was twenty? Twenty five years. As a young young photographer to get one of India's biggest magazines. Eyeballs was. Kaput and the next thing I knew. Everything blew up and my like the fees that I started charging biggest. Publicity game in silently? I was like this little blue eyed boy. And It all came together really well, but I just like eventually three years later they can look back now it's it's been eleven years since I've started this. But! If I look back at all game too soon and So I couldn't handle it. You get so. Enamored by that kind of lifestyle and. You can get into. The heavy body and the lake life goes a little crazy, and that's what was happening to me and then I don't know. This sounds like. Damage by this podcast life. In the ice ice started charging money. Bill also. Basically I didn't know what night what was happening. You know I mean I i. used body seven o'clock in the morning, and I was twenty five twenty six year old kid, who was just making money and and you know being in the limelight, and that get that can get so addictive and then eventually one day I just decided I needed a break and I moved to new. York and I quit photography for a span of about two years. I lived at I, was studying, making an I just wanted to try and find myself as a photographer, and just to try, and and have meaning to that I was doing. and. I lived there for two years, and then I got an offer to come back here and work on particular projects, and then I came back, thinking anew back to New York and then I never did. That's been the cause. Sounds very much like asteroids. Except for except for Glamour, the money and the moving. Pieces. So. Lockdown! Again back to similar similar. It is really hard. By October, I think I'm going to be hired by you guys. Do like the back end stuff. Uh God? That would be the. 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Western Conference Finals Preview

First Take

48:20 min | 7 months ago

Western Conference Finals Preview

"And then the very next day it is another Sunday and that means another stacked card of games. One Marquee up his Lamar. Jackson. In the Ravens against a Shawn Watson in the Texans Baltimore, coming up a huge beatdown down over the browns while the Texans still in search of their first win being tasked with the defending Super Bowl champion chiefs in week number one. Stephen. Who wins the game between the Ravens and the Texans? Believe it or not I'm. GonNa pick, the Houston Texas in an upset. Here. I don't think anybody's going sixteen to know. Listen does Shawn Watson the those boys went up the Kansas City chiefs they ended up losing that game. We understand how poor stay looked I. don't like the fact that the Andre Hopkins is gone it doesn't give me a reason feel but so much faith in the Houston Texans but do I believe that the Shawn Watson going up against Lamar Jackson got a little something in him to create opportunities for himself and his team to. Potentially. PULL OUT A win. Yeah do I'm just going to go with the upset. It's just a feeling that I have done. Football analysis to Ryan clock all I'm saying is that Baltimore's got to lose a few games this season why not? One of those? I think they're GONNA lose a game this year Pittsburgh at least one. I. Could See them losing this game I can see them going on about twelve and four this season. But one of these four losses if you got to beat anybody, why can't it be the Shawn Watson? I'm just GONNA. Go with that for this moment in time right now and pick the Texans, would upset just have a gut. I have nothing else to give on that matter for this particular situation this particular game. Under normal circumstances like had they not made that stupid stupid trade I might agree with you. But home. Feel what it was. We're in a pandemic. It's not the same thing like playing it is not the same advantage it would be normally that's one and two. Cooks can play, but the Andre Hopkins is something special and he ain't there anymore and you're asking Shawn Watson. To make lemonade if not out of lemons is it something close to it and that's one thing you know what I think. The showing Watson will lead it offense that will score on defense but then you have the flip side, how are they going to stop that Ravens offense at Texans Defense has nothing to write home about and Jj wanting what he once was and at any rate, they just got lit up and they're facing another offense which when they're clicking looks unstoppable. I. Don't look the browns no preseason all those kind of things but. The Ravens will win this game. Listen I have a problem with everybody on this show I Charlie says, this is a marquee match up which it's not then. Stephen. SAYS THEY HAVE TO LOSE BALTIMORE HAS TO LOSE four four games why not this game and then Mex- totally gives lemons a bad rep by comparing them to the Houston Texans limits are sometimes good if you do the right things with them, lemonade can be special. They even add to club soda when you go out and get something to eat the Houston Texans are not limits. There's something way far from there that you can do. Nothing good with and to think that this is even going to be a game is crazy because here's what happened the saw Watson setup. Perfectly, he gets his big deal. He's play against the last two MVP winters Patrick Mahomes Lamar Jackson I think he is in the conversation with those guys as quarterbacks of the future. Here's the problem the Kansas City chiefs we're going to do everything. We possibly can to give Patrick Mahomes all the weapons that he could possibly use to be the best. He could ever be and be worth this contract Lamar Jackson. We're GONNA give him. He could possibly need everything. He could possibly use to be the best that he could possibly be take us to a super bowl and make him do the highest paid player in the league the Shawn. We go give away your best player. That's what happened. That's the difference between the Kansas City chiefs, the Baltimore Ravens in the Houston Texans they all three of those team have great quarterbacks. One of those teams doesn't have GM. That's building around his great quarterback and that's the Houston Texans. That's what we'll see this week that the secondary of the Baltimore Ravens with two pro bowl corners. Great at the safety position building up front going out and get callejas Campbell upfront it's going to be hard to move the ball and what was the issue for the Houston Texans defense against the Kansas City chiefs. It was Patrick Mahomes in passing game. It was was layer in the run game. What teen runs the ball better than the Baltimore Ravens I'm answering for Stephen since he had on Atlanta Falcons Jersey today and he may not know what winning looks like it's the Baltimore Ravens the Baltimore Ravens are going to run the ball down in Houston Texas throat and then stop them defensively enforce the Shawn Watson to force throws into tough coverages because he's not being protected and none of those wide receivers can get open and because the best wide receiver in Houston Texans history. One of the best receivers of this era had fourteen catches and a touchdown for his new team. When he sits, there will be playing for the team that drafted. Well, first of all, say this. We're in no position to disagree with you based on last year's contest. Alone. Boston. A Baltimore Rob and forty one, seven they compile four, hundred and ninety one yards of offense two, hundred, sixty, three on the ground Lamar Jackson threw for four touchdowns. They just blitzed to Houston Texas and that's with the Andre Hopkins the Shawn Watson on the together. So I definitely get where you're coming my only retort. My only comeback is this is two things number one, any given Sunday and number two or more importantly right clog doesn't have a perfect record would predictions I've seen you come out here I'll. Watch was correct. So I don't give you. CanNot be disputed. I am not trying to dispute. All trying to say is I have seen you on the air be emitted. Witness new pinpoint football now. Only, to have to come back on the air and go like this Stephen Ham. You say it has happened. No listen the game. The games have to be played. I understand that and listen I'm not gonNA come back with the maximum the Max Kellerman Kawai Leonard. oops if this happens but what I'm saying is thank God Tema. Ravens on Communists don't do that by far. They're by far the better team and they're going to win this game and you see four losses on the schedule. It's going to be hard to find four teams that come out and play better than the Baltimore Ravens for three hours in the Houston Texans will not be the first. Yeah but I really about the offense I think the Shawn Watson can rise to a challenge and score some points It's the Defense Texas. Against the Baltimore offense and the fact that Texans really don't have home field right now but otherwise I if they still look if if it was a fifth, but if they still had the Andre Hopkins and there wasn't a pandemic kind of pick them game. Unfortunately, those things they be. But how many? Well saving now you mentioned you mentioned the boys two teams. Last season you said forty one to seven. That was thirty, four points at the ravens outscored. The Texans that was a shawn. Watson is biggest loss of his career. He also was sacked six times during that game so better. This time around. That's right. Call Him. The comeback kids come back after being down three, two one against the clippers tonight they faced off against Lebron in the Lakers game one of the Western Conference Finals Kendrick Perkins here with us Max is having some difficulties microphone, but we're GONNA get him back. He does he has got a hot. You're Stephen, I'm going to start with you here. Though do the nuggets how chance against the Lakers this he's been having difficulties they have been having difficulties all week with Stephen. That's exactly what I was. GonNa say Charlie of course he's having difficulty. He should he listen listen he he's lucky. He's allowed to talk basketball to be quite honest with you, but here's the but here's the deal. The the nuggets have a slim chance but slim is being kind and The. Exactly. They ain't going to help them but here's the deal. The nuggets have a slim chance and that's about it. They listen they have no rim-protector. They have nothing on the Interior as a result of that you're talking about Lebron James who was going to be aggressive as Damian Lillard who I spoke to on my Mba show sportscenter was stephen last night Damian Lillard pointed that out because you don't have a rim-protector in Denver if you're. Lebron, you're going to be super aggressive if you're Anthony Davis you should be absolutely positively dominant. We appreciate Machos Herald effort we understand he's rain sixth man of the year we get that but he is not Anthony Davis. Especially on the defensive end of the floor and Anthony Davis ain't going go for all of that stuff that joke is bringing your way remember during Regular Season Anthony Davis averaged twenty nine and nine I think against Denver the. Average sixteen points I'm not saying that the joke is not going to get him because he's a skilled player but he ain't Anthony Davis Anthony Davis should have an absolute field day going up against the Denver Nuggets there should be nutty. He should be the most dominant player for the Lakers and less Lebron just decides I'm taking it to the whole all day every day and I'm going to have a dunk line in. The game. That's how easy this should be for him. Denver is a juggernaut offensively tomorrow Mary is no joke. Nikolai Yokich is no joke. I love me some Michael Porter Jr.. Jeremy Grant is nothing to sneeze at Gary Harris occasionally as founded stroke we get all of that but they should be a perfect match up for the Lost Angeles Lakers if the Los Angeles Lakers get any kind of production any kind of production whatsoever. Anybody on a perimeter outside of Anthony Davis and Lebron James, and they play defense to way we know they're capable up. This could be a sweep. I'M NOT GONNA disrespect Denver Bach Predicting Net. I predict that they'll win one or two games just out of respect but I don't believe for one second they are winning this series. Jamal. Murray I'm sorry to break into your my brother. I'm not taking back a damn thing. I said I've shown you nothing but respect the over the number three seed in the West. I talked to you earlier in the season I believe you are a stall on the rise. You are something special to behold I love Y'all team in terms of Youth I. Think Y'all GonNa Win Your Championship in the future Y'all GonNa win a championship in the future, but it ain't going to be this year does not disrespecting you just spit straight facts. Denver is going down and I don't believe this will go past six games and I'm being nice by saying that. Was Even you've been extremely nice because I don't see it going past five. DENVER. Mike Guesswork the way that the Lakers plan right now they're championship pedigree is kicking in at the right time. They'll promise they're hitting their stride at the right time. The way they Lebron plan. He's reminding me of the Lebron James and Miami the way that Anthony Davis is playing big yoked. You haven't had you. Hadn't had to guard anybody in the first series Rudy Goldberg. He's a defensive player. You didn't have to guard anybody against the clippers, but you got self puppies this series because Anthony Davis is on the Michigan and by the way big in the body pools going to mess intensity of Playoff Bronco Playoff Rondo has these other guys like how will Pope Caruso and coups plan at extremely high level I. Think. That Frank. Vogel is GonNa go back to big lineup. They have multiple bodies that they could throw at Yokich. You know you think about the White House with a guy who's very mobile, very athletic who can slide his feet and also make it difficult for him, embody them up and wham down. So I'm looking at the series and you know Jamal Murray yes you are a stolen in. Making I think Yokich is the best in the League but going against this, Los Angeles Lakers team, the weather they're playing right now the way that they handle abused the Houston Rockets last series to MVP's there was still in their prime it world Westbrook and James Harden I don't see Denver Nuggets standing a chance. The only test that I see them having is having a chance to live life and. Grandkids and and children that hey, I got to play against the Gray Lebron James in the year twenty twenty that's the only chance that they have is to be able to priest it. They played against the Great Lebron James There see. Well not. Not a bad story to tell your kids or grandkids if you ask me. And Perk I do want to say Vogel has he has already said he's going back to that big lineup for this series. Now guys we do have some breaking news also comes in the form of bomb Adrian Morgan ASCII reporting the breaking news that Janas has been named MVP of the two thousand, nine, hundred, nine season this being his second consecutive award. So Steve Start with your reaction. Well I'm happy for him He played hard. He was the reigning league. MVP, and he came out and tried to prove that he was worthy of it that he deserved it. He average like twenty, nine and thirteen during the regular season. Milwaukee was the number one seed they were thriving before the last week in prior to the play being stalled because of the pandemic. So I understand from a numbers perspective why he would get this award it was very predictable that it would happen but he did not get my vote and I have a vote I voted for Lebron James. I thought Lebron James Deserve. To Be League MVP this year I thought the way he led the Lakers being the number one seed in the Western Conference, which is superior to the East I. Think the way the he has led this team the way that he has had them by in from day one of this NBA season I can't say enough about the leadership that he has exhibited exuded throughout this year no matter what personnel, no matter what personalities or whatever the case may be him plan alongside Anthony Davis of, but still doing the things that he did leading the League in assists playing the minutes that he played in at age. Thirty five seventeenth season in the league like I've said, many many occasions I could be critical or shot selection from time to time I could be critical of this report shooting are could be critical of sometimes hesitancy to get to a free throw line, etc, etc. But what you can never be critical of is that this man is a superstar personified and he has never cheated us every time he steps into an arena he's always ready to play. Sometimes he plays better than others obviously, but he's always in shape. He's always in condition he's always conditioned rather he's always focused he doesn't cheat us and I think. That when you see the western conference that he plays in and the challenges that he had available to him and knowing that he was Gary for the postseason as well. But still did what he did during the regular season I don't think there's any question in my mind that Lebron James deserved the MVP I understand why it's got it because everybody's looking at numbers and the fact that Milwaukee was the number one overall the but I never thought that he deserved it over Lebron James this year to me Lebron James My mvp but I'm happy honest as a good guy and I wish nothing but the best. You know what Stephen Hate when I come on this show and I have to agree with you I I really come on your show to argue with you a Lotta Times. But when you're right, you're right look congratulations to Janas. Do I think he should have won the MVP? No I said he's the most dominant player. If you WANNA go analytic and all these PR's that this new age has came with and Oh, he said records like you know Kareem and Bill Russell, will chamberlain and all that. But when you talk about the most valuable player, you gotta look at the situation and my most value vote was Lebron. James I, mean you just think about the impact that he had on this Los Angeles Lakers team number one in the tough western conference you had multiple guys his pews, guys that was not on his team when they were eggs, who is your MVP They Lebron James, because they know the impact that he brings on the team now I think he got I think that what ended up happening was dead because he have another top five guide Anthony Davis did he got discredited and guys said that he had a and that private persue people from voting for him but you know I it just I don't understand. MVP voting. Anymore I don't know the criteria because every year the goal posts shifted and moved in different directions because you know no disrespect to the Great Steve Nash but I can recall at the time you know where he averaged around about fifteen points and ten rebounds and Kobe Bryant was playing with smush Parker and kwami Brown, and he carried the Lakers to the playoffs averaging around thirty five points a gay and he was the clear cut mvp time. But they said there, Steve Nash was the most valuable because what would he be without the Phoenix Suns? I said well, look at the town of Daddy had around him he had. Better talent than what Kobe has. So you know I don't know criteria for the MVP I. Don't know because it gets shifted. Every single year is the is because it is because one can make a case that one of the Brian James was an eastern conference. He could have wanted eight straight years in a row but hey, who am I say but you know congratulates -gratulations to Jaanus I'm pretty sure he can celebrate it here this whole press conference at his house because that's where yet right now and Lebron is we weren't about the big things. He going to get that finals VP 'cause that's what matters the most. I've a feeling Lebron's going to be taking home a title this year maybe not the MVP, but you know maybe a finals championship. Okay, we'll perk. Thank you so much for your time. Thanks for everything. We'll see you soon. Montage ever get old I. Don't think so but look who it is our good friend Tim Tebow how you doing, Sir I'm doing great. How are you guys doing one? Complaint. We I we I. Even. In those throwback pictures, you were wearing all these fancy suits similar to what Max wearing right now. But you know now you're just like throwing on jerseys and stuff what happened to I mean when you addressing to impress well. Well, first of all, I'm always suited and booted is just at the Atlanta Falcons a plan cowboys this weekend and they sent me this giant ask for it. They sent me to Jersey and asked me to wear it. So I'm like this listen, I'll wear it. But if you're ended up losing to the cowboys this weekend I'M A burntness Jersey. So are you doing more for the Atlanta ten or GETS THE DALLAS COWBOYS? That's the question against the Dallas Cowboys Gates The Dallas Cowboys we have. said. The Falcons sent me a Jersey too but I put on a suit and tie you know. Came to work it. First of all, they did not attend YOU JERSEY. They're not thinking about you because you're a giants fan and secondly learned that when you have a delay because you've got technical issues don't interrupt. Go. Ahead Childish. My goodness. You're on the US last week in the span of the past week. A lot of things have happened. We saw the big time coming around announcing. The actually are now going to start up the season that happening on October twenty four. So that is some huge news we're going to dive right into. This means that we're GONNA see lots of players big time players that thought on the field such as Ohio State Sean Wade. He announced that he is returning to the team after opting to get ready for the drought in. Here's what he had to say about coming back. Then we'll come back and be a Buckeye and really goes go at this temperature like I was back in January when I came back in into the DR NASA back in generating, go to the draft and my goal was to come back captain get my degree in now they did council football now back. So it since we've got a chance to win a national championship and have been my goal since the since day one. So that's what we striving for us we gonNA drive for. When we get back in October. I love it. Listen guys and I loved it. Fans. Go ahead God you know I'm GonNa ask you what he decision. I. Love It. Listen if he was to declare and go to the NFL, he could rightfully do it. He's unit predicted to be the seven thick. It's life changing money I think that is a good move I would never knock it but I also love him coming back. But I I love it not just. because. He's coming back. But because why he's coming back, he's coming back getting his education. He wants to be a team captain that means something I love that about him and I also love that he's coming back to win a championship. It's not just about playing games. It's about winning games. It's about winning championships and I loved it because it represents what Buckeye culture's all about, what were urban and will ryan days taken over. But just deal is all about it's about their culture, the Brotherhood being a captain why that means something still to this day getting here. And winning championships. That's why it's so special and why represents college football so well? What are what are your pins can deciding to actually decide to play the season? I like it because I'm so happy for the kids in like we talked about last week if they can follow the rules in the regiments and the protocols because I still believe that the the the studies have really shown so far that the kids are healthier and safer on campus with the doctors with the medical staff and with this testing I think it's best for the players I think it's best for the kids and it also gives them a chance to live out their dreams. So I'm in favor of it and I'm excited plus I think it's great for college football. Tim You made that argument a couple of weeks persuasive. I even talked about it on on the Max Sean Espn Radio to four. PM Eastern. My Way. And, I thought is a persuasive argument right? If there are strict protocols for the football team, then actually keeping not only the kids safer but the peop- people to whom they could pass on the disease safer. And with the Antigen, testing and more plentiful testing and more readily accessible testing that makes sense. Then then coach George Iran came out and said that most of his team had covert the you think that that's big. Young kids maybe in an area of the country where they're not taking it very seriously or does that have something to do with playing football? I'm not sure I think it's really hard to speculate but I know in some of the schools that I personally talk to their head coaches, athletic directors, even presidents that I talked to they made it clear to me that most of the positive tests came when the kids were on breaks going home and then coming back and showing up in their first test testing positive. So I know some schools have had a few outbreaks recently, but overall the numbers. From what they told me which I don't know if that's one hundred percent accurate, but it's it's by it's trusted people that I believe that they're telling me accurate information. The higher tests have come when when kids have been allowed to have breaks and either go home or be with France, and then they come back to to campus and then they have higher positive tests. So that's where I also think some of the kids could have contracted. Temp when they talk about resuming the big ten football season and they said, it's expected to be October twenty third twenty fourth. Obviously, the objective is to come back early enough. So you can have enough games and then potentially participate and college football playoffs. I asked this question to you. How legitimate do you think the playoff system will be? How legitimate do you think crowning a National champion potentially or anything of that nature how legitimate is going to be light of those stalled play some conferences electing not to play certainly, not the big five because it looks like they're all going to participate, but by and large. So many college programs are not going to be playing college football this year house legitimate should all should this season being in all of is? I think it has a chance to be very legit because while we've in my lifetime, we haven't experienced a setback for you know like this, we haven't experienced a pandemic like this, but there has been a lot of minor setbacks in certain areas and I've never heard on I take when there's a hurricane goes through Florida and they say, well, what's going to happen to Florida Florida State Miami Fau there hasn't been a lot of sympathy for them coming back in their seasons or other schools when things that happened and so one thing I think that is exciting this year about college. Football is the ability to adapt these young kids have these coaches and it's it doesn't look the same. They didn't have spring ball but you know we teach our defenses. Hey when sudden change happens, you'd be ready. You gotTA show up quarterback. There was a pick defense go out there and get a stop in the same way we're teaching our young kids to adapt. You didn't get the same things but you know sometimes like hits you in a really hard way but we have to adapt we have to prepare we have to be ready. For. Whatever happens and I think that's a great life example for these young men to be ready to be able to take that on and I think what? The big ten having nine games I think that's enough to be able to crown a big ten champion and then having a conference championship game I think that's enough the SEC in the ACC are GonNa have enough the big twelve can have enough even though they haven't looked really good so far and we'll find out if the PAC twelve is going to be able to be ready but. You know honestly, I think that we're GONNA see who adapts who's able to overcome and who's ready to to compete for the championship at the end of the year and I like it because football. One of the great lessons in football is dealing with adversity in. That's what a lot of these schools, these young men their families are dealing with right now, and we're going to see who can handle this sudden change the best. All right, we'll lots of changes. Everything is very fluids. This'll be a very interesting season Tim as always. Thank you so much. Thank you guys prochet. This guys a tremendous player Honestly I. THINK HE'S Away, maybe underrated by by the media, the fans I don't know but I mean, how are really see anybody better than this player he can do everything. He's got obviously great leadership. play making skills. Well, would you look at that Bill Belichick showing some major love to Russell Wilson just days have their Sunday primetime matchup against the seahawks. So something you don't really expect from Bill Belichick you gotta wonder, does he have an ulterior motive with all this praise but Stephen who are you picking win? This game is the Patriots or is it the seahawks? I'm picking the SEAHAWKS. I'm picking the seahawks because I think that they have a more complete T. right now I think that the Patriots are trying to feel their way through things performance against the Miami. Dolphins does not an exceptional season of football. May the reality of the situation is is that as far as I'm concerned I won't go as far as insulting Miami by saying it was a bi week because I respect the hell out of bleier Brian. Floors and what they're doing and what they're trying to build down there. But this is not an elite team. As of yet, we understand that we understand Iraq has patched with quarterback in the team. So what Cam Newton in the New England Patriots were able to keep in mind they want twenty one eleven of, but they were struggling with the past and they were just running the football. Effectively I think that's going to be considerably harder to do Seattle's defense was was rough and rugged and good enough to begin with. But then adding Jamal Adams to that mix who played lights out last week, we can't ignore what we're seeing from them in terms of their energy and their fervor defensively and offensively Russell Wilson complete thirty one and thirty five passes over about three hundred, twenty, two yards having came back half having Tyler Lockett having running game with cost and then those boys I just see them being to complete for New England and I think that as a result, they will wear them down won't be a blow outta anything like that. But I think ultimately Seattle will close the deal. They're the better team and I think they were witness under. This is where I think the way you said, you just have a gut about the Texans upsetting the ravens which has to be picks on paper that doesn't look good I. Know they're in Seattle and I agree with everything politics said about Russell Wilson I think he's going down as one of the echelon all time greats with all said and done and I understand why you belch it looks at him and says that because like Tom Brady Is. Tall Guy Short one guy is purely in the pocket. The other guy can run, but they're similar in the sense that they started playing for great coaches as gay manager who were big on third down relying on their defense to field goal kicker the run game stuff like that. But both evolve into offensive juggernauts could carry the team and then they changed the team around the evolution of the quarterback. So when he looks At Russell Wilson in certain ways in those important respects I'm sure he's familiar with it with his experience with Tom. Brady. That said on paper Seattle has the edge particularly because they're at home. But if you just forgot about who's playing quarterback for the Patriots for a second, if this was a match up last year, would would people be so quick to take Seattle? You would think well, it's the Patriots, the Patriots you usually lose. Excuse me usually a dozen games a year. That's a close call. Valid chick might figure it out just because it's Cam. Newton instead of Tom Brady I think people are discounting the Patriots a little and in fact, I think they should give them a little increase in their chances not a decrease because Cam Newton doesn't need the same weapons. Because he's big and strong and mobile, and we heard bill belichick talk about the level of competitiveness. Yes. He's getting used to a new system but so far looks like the same old patriots to me I like the minute upset. I can't say that I like the Patriots I'm GonNa go with the Seattle seahawks because I believe this is Russell Wilson's year. When you watch that game against the Atlanta Falcons, he was absolutely surgical and he understands I run the football. When I need to I, need to pick up extra yards and I get my teammates involved when they are open. When I had those opportunities, that's why you see such a little such a low incompletion percentage and also with decay metcalf in Tyler Lockett on outside he does actually have weapons now Chris Carson is a downhill running back that is. Served by Carlos Hyde and so to me, the Seattle seahawks are the better team offensively by long shot and then let's talk defense defense. We looked at the new. England patriots from last year with one of the top defenses in the League in the defensive player of the year, and we said you know what coming into most games or every game will be better on that side of the ball. Well, the best defensive player in this game is going to be the Seattle seahawks strong safety Jamal Adams, the type of energy that he could bring to this game type of the type. Of. Job Or jump. He gave that team last week against the Falcons and this is a defense with Bobby Wagner on it and I say all that because I, believe the Seattle seahawks are better but I can't sit here and say that the New England Patriots can't win and I, think it's for a lot of the things that Max it because if Tom Brady was there, we give them a punchers chance if Tom Brady was there we'd. Say That New England always finds a way. Why can't we give Cam Newton that saying credit why can't we look at the first week and say, okay, they're going to take the air out of the ball by running it. They're gonNA play tough defense and can't Cam Newton find a way to make enough plays in the into whim. So where I do think the Seattle seahawks are the favourite where do think the Seattle? SEAHAWKS are the better team The Seattle Seahawks, you can't rest no twelfth man in the stance. No opportunity to drown out the way. Cam. Communicates or the way Josh mcdaniels communiques him I think this is going to be a great game and this is going to be Cam Newton's opportunity to save. Russell Wilson may be fighting for the MVP this year but I have already one one. I cannot wait to watch this game this. So let us know if the New England patriots offer real if they can move on from Tom Brady and still be that team that sits atop the AFC because the Seattle. SEAHAWKS got now but they have to face the New England patriots who had the last two decades. I agree with every. Last part about US fighting, finding out about the I agree with you until the last part about finding out because I think there wasn't a the things we have to pay attention to is the fact that there's been no preseason because of the pandemic and what have you and whatever you see earlier for the most part, it's not indicative of what you'll see as the season progresses. If this was week eight or nine or beyond for the season and they met up, I would I would view. This as something that would be a telltale for what the New England patriots, what they're going to be, etc etc. Right now, the brilliance of Bill Belichick could seve ably, give you an advantage because of the lack of preparation that everybody has been able to have at their disposal coming into this particular season. We never know what what what other things could affect it. I don't think one way or the other the indicative I just looking at both teams right now I think Seattle is the better team. See it looks this is not a knock on Russell Wilson at all in fact, when Cam Newton was voted by his peers, the best player in the world and he won the. Super Bowl, you look at the second half of that season. Russell Wilson was probably the best player in football. So Bill Belichick says without him is on the money's been underrated for to law. He's an all time great and there's no metcalf block it or guys like that on the Patriots and. They're at home all that is true and yet what are the Patriots now they're one and. How was their defense? It was excellent. No can has not had time to really acclimate himself to chick way maybe you'd like before a match up like this but. To me in week one, it seemed like the same old patriots and that team particularly, if they're underestimated I taking see to get out of the NFC when they made that Jamal Adams Street. And there's a natural inclination to let down a little bit. I Like I think the Patriots are going to upset them. To after two weeks. Right well, we've got predictions all over the board for this one I, just looking at a little comparison between the two quarterbacks Russell Wilson five and two over the course of his career when he goes head to head against Cam Newton, but they were close games all but one of those games was decided by seven points or fewer. So hopefully, we'll have a good one on Sunday. You know we had to save one of the best segments for last the cowboys are hosting the Atlanta Falcons in big. D. On Sunday Dak Prescott is. Passes away from one hundred in his career. But in their two previous matches has not thrown a single touchdown pass when playing the Falcons all right now Stephen. You've already you've already been talking about the cowboys even talking about the Falcons Marcus Spears is not here with us today would he has some words for you? He is common for you. He says, you ain't worth a damn at Steven, you're sickening. Sickening I take go Dallas Wow. Stephen you are having effect on all different types of people. So I'm going to start with you here. What do you think about Marcus comments and what do you think the cowboys on Sunday? I. Think's burst I'd like to say how do how do everybody how do? You Watch hope listening. Limitation that Marcus says right there. He's a little bit upset. I understand why he's trying to take it out on me, but he really should direct his anger in the appropriate direction, which is data of Dallas cowboys who absolutely looked at. Then look too impressive last week at least on the offensive side of the ball now that new coach. Mike. McCarthy's a super bowl champion knows what he's doing. But nevertheless, why did he lose their job in Green Bay because he was considered a bit archaic a bit outdated he GETS THE NEW JOB WITH THE DALLAS COWBOYS? What does he come out there in Los Angeles at their beautiful new five billion dollar stadium and do in the city of Los Angeles he sits up there and goes back to those same archaic ways that you got Michael Gallup, you've got you've got Michael Gallup you CD. Lamb you got Amari Cooper you got debt Prescott looking to get his long term money. It's not just thirty one point four, million dollars. He's making for this season, but he's also looking for long. Purity Day and you still got Zeki Elliott out they upped all these. Weapons all over the place but guess what? They couldn't stop Aaron Donald from getting to couldn't stop. Stop Aaron Rod Donald from put forth like ten quarterback pressures, Broncos, and all of those other boys couldn't stop and so now we go to the you get ready to go against those Atlanta Falcons now. I'm not that impressed with these because they sent me this very very Nice Jersey I will. I will say that about them I don't know about them. I. Don't know if they wasting away the best chance Giulio. Julio Jones career but I will tell you this. They've got potential off pensively now with with Julio Jones, with Ridley Matt Ryan and these books. They do have some potential in the Dallas Cowboys Eight on their game. If somehow some way they get distracted if somehow some way busy watching Lebron James, perform on Sunday because he's going to be playing on Sunday. If they sitting there watching the Miami Heat in Boston Celtics game three on Saturday they get a bit preoccupied and don't study that playbook focus get themselves distracted. But that nauseating disgusted fan base that's constantly throwing on expectations on their shoulders because they still have not met up to him in last twenty, five years. That's quarter century you don't understand. What it comes down to it this there is a changed that the Atlanta Falcons the at L. could end up victor is not. Going to happen, I wouldn't bet my money on it but for the purposes of this show wearing his Jersey knowing that old dude swag. Is So weird? Because he doesn't have lsu to lean on and instead instead of picking up lsu resume, he's got to pick up the Dallas cowboys resume. Guess what Marcus says I'm sorry swag. ooh, that's personal. Proud you need to get over. You let go of the Dallas Cowboys resume long time ago stat reminded people that used to play for the cowboys and maybe you get a little bit more. Guy Till it. Right. Now on know markets is that is how scratched his head taking off his glasses, putting his face real close to disagree because he realizes how disrespectful that you're not only being to the Dallas cowboys. But that been him swag who that's your guy and I can't believe you would act like this other Stephen A. but here's Esi that tweet when the Dallas Cowboy. Tweet but Stephen A. that's what you do. Purposely you are discussing you put it in Atlanta Falcons Jersey just because you know how the Dallas Cowboys fans would feel after you already as Jerry could you get on his shot? You would nice to Jerry after the draft just because you wanted to go hang out on a yacht and now all of a certain you WANNA put on the land fell Jersey Marcus feels betrayed Jerry feels betrayed the Dallas cowboys fans feel betrayed and it's because of you because the southern Stephen a not New York Steven eight everybody knows that that dude is a mess but they thought southern Stephen head good southern home values great southern hospitality. Turned on him they allow they allow you to go down there and go to their little borrowed big old clubhouse and talk in front the fans every year you and Michael Irvin Mike Servicewomen guys coming from the size patented head and you turned on him. You would Atlanta Falcons Jersey you should be ashamed. So now you can't come to New Orleans or Dallas because what we got to see of Dallas this week is total of of domination. If we don't see that the Mike, McCarthy's not doing what he's. Doing and this team we talked about on paper all summer long as being explosive having three, one, thousand yard wide receivers. One of the best bags in the game this great. Oh Line is quarterback that thinks he's worth thirty, nine to forty million a year is false because we watch the Seattle seahawks go down there with a quarterback that we know is the man with two wide receivers we believe could play, but we don't put up in the upper echelon and a stable of running bags that are good. But not great and totally dominate offensively, take it to the Falcons from start to finish beat them like a drum if it wasn't for some late here ix by Matt Ryan. Calvin, really getting some plays in garbage time. This is a total blow out. So of the Dallas cowboys don't show up after falling short office last week after missing on a fourth down in threes that have kicking a punt if they can't find ways to score if Amari Cooper doesn't get deep if CD lamb doesn't get deep if. You can't get Michael Gal Zeke. Elliott doesn't get big plays in the run game. This is an issue. Zag will be on the way to not getting his money not getting his long-term deal in this team will look more like a Jason Garrett Kellyn more offense than we have ever seen in Jason. Garrett is in New York. So we don't get total domination from the offense from the Dallas cowboys this week there's trouble embiid the and is not named Steven. It's all about the team that's playing on the field. So, are you saying right clock I just WanNa make sure I'm clear here what? I just heard echo in my ears, are you say clock that this game we to NFL season during the global pandemic would a new head coach would a quarterback that's looking for a new contract that this game is that important that the Dallas Cowboys lose spell that amount of trouble is that what I'm here for my old but Iran clock This game, this game is that important with the off season being what is? Being what it was so go lose. In, La and then now come back the next week against Atlanta Falcons who were dominating. And not put up points not explosive that says, this is just the same old call. Do it with a different? Hey coach. You do know what this means. Right you know what this lease you point Mall Southern Mother Brian Clark came to the rescue right there. You know that by you saying what you just said that puts even more pressure on Swag Gu's Dallas cowboys, which means they'll probably I actually thought they were. Just what? Knowledge, the level of pressure that has now fallen on those show. Can Handle that they might be even more trouble. swaggie. Then he had to go on NFL, Loud Avenue going NFL LA at dickey's. That's that's a responsibility that he had to have. So Marcus Spears sorry swag you would the glistening bid and all of that other stuff that brothers go be on. TV Today they're very nervous because you know how he is when the Dallas cowboys under pressure because he knows that usually don't respond and if fans are GONNA be upset and they're going to be miserable that actually doesn't please me that much though I prefer cowboy fans misery Ryan clocked to be around Thanksgiving, all the way through Christmas I don't like it this early personally I want them to win early ms up. That's my preference but I'll. would. Occupy give. The opposite of what it was intended to do, but we were talking. Just. Now, let's talk about the pressure on the box move on to Tom. Brady yesterday he was asked about head coach Bruce Arians recent critical comments about him, and I'll let you be the judge about how Brady feels about it. I think there's a perception that you haven't taken a lot of criticism from your coaches before I don't think this is something that surprised this week is it? Also. Question. Whether, you're surprised at all to hear Bruce speaking publicly about the pigs in and being critical of us you woods. He's a coach. Player. Just trying to win a game. Sounds like Tom Brady took some of that Patriot way down to Tampa Bay with them Stephen I think that Tom Brady is going to bounce back this week. Absolutely positively without question and I'm keeping some and this thing because last time I checked he's in Tampa, if I remember correctly that's in Florida and Florida's Assaf. So therefore, restaurants needs to stay right here for this particular segment right here listen here's the bottom line financial. News. The Tampa Bay buccaneers we're going up against a super bowl title content. That's what they were going up against. It wouldn't take bridge war. Now I believe that Christian McCaffrey especially do no question about it. He's debates that franchise especially that new contract and he deserted but matt rule last time I checked was coaching at. Bam The owner this is basically his digs into everything right now, we understand this teddy bridgewater is your pedestrian quarterback. This is not drew brees and the Senate and the New Orleans Saints this the Carolina Panthers who are in rebuilding mode. I'm not concerned about it at all at Tom Brady's forty, three years of age. That means he's a big old boy. He could take some criticism. No big deal whatsoever he's absolutely. Yeah I think I think Tom Bounces back this week if you watch Derek Carr offense of the Las Vegas. Raiders against the Carolina Panthers they were carving up yards and run in the past they did that and wonderful ballgame I expect the books to win Tom Brady. He could deal with Bruce Areas. Bruce's will be has always been Tom understands that Tom is about winning football. He'll start winning football this weekend. I just think it's very important that people don't overreact to criticism that Tom Brady receives. He's a big boy. He can take it. He wants to honest and great players want to be coached. You know who taught me that Charlotte that Orion clock right there. That's. He said great players. Would it be coach is not discuss here. Why nine Stephen a I think you're the same way you've taken all this criticism very well throughout the show. Thank you so much. Sir Ryan thank you as well. Everybody thinks joining. US. Thank you.

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Spike Lee and BJ Armstrong

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Spike Lee and BJ Armstrong

"I hit that shot and are you. I love Michael Phil Jackson. I let guiding though I let everyone that I knew over there. No my does not need any more gas in his car to get going but then when you do that you have to expect all hell to break loose from that point on. Was He a nice guy? Couldn't have been nice with that kind of mentality. He had can't be a nice guy he would be difficult to be around. If you didn't truly love the game of basketball. He is difficult. Our next guest part of the the both I three P. We welcome in three time champ friend of the show. Bj Armstrong bj. So great to have you with us. Thank you for being here again. And I'm really excited to talk to you because I find your perspective so interesting. Obviously being a part of that first three feet and then you become a rival so you get a taste of both of it Being a teammate and going against MJ and one really unique thing you said is that he would create enemies for motivation. What was the biggest difference for you playing with him and then against you have to understand that you're dealing with who is an ultimate ultimate competitor? He understood what needed to be done in. He had a great understanding of the game. Not only physically overwhelm you but intellectually mentally. He was going to challenge you in every way. Possible so I I felt the challenge was a great opportunity to play not only with them all those years against on NC everything that I had learned by van those uniforms being in those locker room would actually work so I just accepted the challenge. That was the league that was the environment in which we all play. But with back. Then you came you. You played in Hewlett with the results. So competition was something that we all thrived in. That was the environment and you go out there and you play and and you play to the best of your ability. Bj thank you for being on the show again. Most of us sit here and we applaud what we have seen from Michael Jordan and his documentary series. Especially at this moment in time because we don't we barely have any sports So he certainly provided that for us with this. My question to you would be. We know that he's been praised. Ford who do you believe the document? The documentary series has hurt the most based on a ten part series. You you saw what? Clearly there are a lot of characters Throughout this this documentary in which I thought was great I thought he would trade Giving you giving you the fans of Peek behind the curtain. I think the obvious you look at management. I think that's a. That's an obvious of people you could point at but in particular. I just thought it was just an assessment of who we were and how were thinking back then. I don't know if hurt anyone. I don't know if it's helped anyone but I think back. Then we all look on our. You know our lies. None of us expected to be talking about this twenty twenty five years later what? We did what we had to do in that moment. You know the big thing that I think that we all understood as a group is that we had a job to do had an incredible amount of professionals on all of those teams in You went out there and digital job so I don't know if particularly hurt anyone but the thing I can say about all those people that were involved with those teams. They understood the task at hand in the nothing was gonna get in our way. A what's interesting to me is reaction to Jordan as bully. We've seen this him going at Scott Relative. The standing he has or Steve Kerr who also obviously doesn't but also physically as overmatched and there's a sense that Jordan's a bully in my view. A bully is someone who only gets into it when they know they have that advantage. When someone's hands are tied because of their status or when they have a physical advantage like Patrick Beverley or Matt Barnes or Ron artest. Metta world peace to me. Those guys are bullies their their fighters. But they're not bullies is is Michael Jordan. A bully in that sense in your view. Would he only get into it when he knew he had the physical advantage such status advantage? That the other person's hands were tied. He wasn't bully and in but I can get in. I can understand how they could be perceived that way especially from the outside looking in. It was very clear when you play with him in urine locker room that you have to have your full commitment you know not only coming into practice and during the things and Sander during your words your actions behavior had to be inside those lines and he wanted to make sure that we all wanted to make sure that I can tell you. Especially on the first three peat is that we were all committed to this process and The theme you know they really didn't touch on and I think every guy that played on those teams with would understand this. We police ourselves. We were very physically We were a good team physically but mentally. We are very strong group and we police ourselves. Everyone understood what we had to do. We're constantly constantly challenging ourselves. So he wasn't a bully. Abc's the but. I could see how people could say that because he was the best player. The camera was always want him. But one thing that we can say about Michael Jordan. Not only could he dishes out. He could take it. He was very very mentally tough that way and we respected that about him he he respected out about us but he had to make sure because are we knew what we have to do if we're going to be crowned champion it's PJ. I WanNa ask you a personal question. I haven't heard you answer. Yeah obviously you're huge part of that first three peat and then not being there for that. Second Three peat. How much did you think about that? I knew in particular two guys. They're Scotty and Michael. In that was I was really happy for those guys. Because you know what you know what goes through the process. The thing that I was most impressed with those guys were doing it in particular. Michael was Michael. Had to reinvent himself you know. He wasn't the same player physically with the last that he was in the first three the first three. He was just physically dominating incredible athlete. Who just had the the energy he was just he was just the you know he was just like a force of nature. Second three you know mentally I think it was probably the most challenging for him because he had to find a way to get the results that he wanted to do it in a different way so I think both of those opportunities presented different challenges for him but really watching him in the way he was able to because he had to really reinvent the how he played the things he was doing him shooting. Fadeaway jump shots in the second three. He was basically a six six center. He played the game below. The freaked allies Scotty became more of a facilitator even more so than he was in the first three and he really had to manage to game so I thought that was the genius part of how they were able to construct. That team around really were Michael was at physically and mentally as a player and get the same result so you know Bravo to those guys because it takes a toll on you on your body to be with the plate let alone be able to go to that death every single year in the huddle and going into the along. They were going into the playoffs. So give those guys credit for being able to do that and figuring it out. Dj knowing how the game was played back then and knowing what you know about the game today along with today's players How do you who do you think would have excelled in the previous era the Jordan era? When you look at today's play at no matter no matter what. Who Do you think would have itself? But you know it's your player your your player and you know. I don't care what era you are. But you know there are a few. I think about that all the time and one of the players I think would excel. Most in that era would be Klay Thompson Klay Thompson. I think is equipped to play in that era because of the way he played. He's a big art off the physicality of the game and he played the game in the way that they all play. You ran plays or to guard had to provide space. And you had to be able to take your matchup. I think he was big enough to take that match up every single night. I just think he would be a player that would fit into that Arab beautifully. Because you know how how he plays the game now I think it translates but you know what what I think the obviously you know you look Lebron James. You look at Kawhi Leonard. Look at these guys but Klay Thompson to me is a player that I said you know what he was a total typical two guards that would fit very nicely into that Aaron. The way they played the game back then he he'd have to he'd have to in that household because if he didn't Michael Thompson send him to assume and take away what I want to play. I just know what his Dad and knowing how the game was played I mean it just seems like the player he has the right mentality you know he just he has the right demeanor that I think would fit into that you know to this fouled and I could see him playing against Joe Dumars. I could see him planet against Clyde's Restaurant Casino plan against Michael Jordan and he would pose problems Heaven Ritchie Miller just alone those who would play in the way they were both defend. I think would be a great match up you know. I just think that was a no. That's the way the game was played by back then especially at the guard position really interesting. Great question by Stephen a great answer by you. I didn't think you were going to Klay Thompson. Pj So great to have you with us during this last dance. The DOCU series. It's really been something special we appreciate you and the time. Our next guest is a legend in the film industry. There he is the one and only spike Lee and he's bringing us more good stuff. He has a new film. The five bloods that is out on net flicks on June twelfth spike. Always good to see you first of all. I hope you in the family are doing well. We appreciate the time. I'm going to dive right into it with you here. Sir As filmmaker really interested to as you what stood out to you about this docu series. The more Michael Jordan is such a mythic theater. So this mayhem you meant you know a lot of kids. Michael Zeal Ghost. What is really this really ours moved? And I'm glad Michael did because he is the one that's Tom's legacy of versus someone else. Spike appreciate being on the show as always with what's going on baby. Yeah what do you think should be taken most from this ten part Docu series? If you got to pick what everybody can walk away feeling from watching this. What should it be that the be great can oil? You can't always be the nicest guy and being film director. That definitely hit home because you want the best in sometimes just being polite to not GonNa get it. Now there's lines you should not cross but as what lead ropes. You said Nice guys finish last. You know you're not trying to win a popularity of popularity contests when you're trying to win spike as a filmmaker kind of film element dramatic element that that move me was Jordan that first iconic moment clutching the trophy because he was just a score and I used to argue with old time Jordan. Well he'll never win a championship and watching what that first trophy meant to him. I remember it happened in real time watching it on. Tv The way he wouldn't let go and press this head to it. And then you you flash forward to the sixth championship last debts. And this time this. Dad's not there and he's clutching the trophy again with his head next to it. But he's but it's imbued with really different and more meaning now to me. That was like a great dramatic cinematic moment where a filmmaker is extracting the story from the events. What to you is that for Michael Jordan? What's the Michael Jordan drama to you? Well ours beginning to get you out. Wanted to how they're gonNA handle the death of Michael Baga and I did they. I think they did a great job very sensitive subject but I was moved. Al's able to see. He missed several and he always treated me good in and does that Father Son. Bond specialion in athletics where which we touched upon my film he got game with. Jesus Jake shows it can be very tricky but Fathered in father and son. That's what that's why this came back to father's son fathered saw spike no question and it showed the human side of him and then also after the fact seeing the bodyguard gusts and that relationship he had again. We got to kind of see the more emotional side of Michael Jordan which we rarely saw like. I WanNa talk about an incident that took place. When Jordan was New York that trip when he went to Atlantic City so much was made about that in the duck. I was Kinda Young. Then what was your reaction in real time when this happened with all the HOOPLA surrounding it. Well the story was. He didn't get back to like six seven in the morning. So that bothered me. You know why because in Barcelona true story it was me Magic Barkley and NJ. I stayed like eight o'clock in the morning. Washington play cars. I had the league's so I know Michael Jordan only needed a couple hours sleep spike a lot of a lot of folks out there watching. 'em J. believe that you know what you knew. He was great. But when he was started winning those championships. Obviously that's cemented his legacy. But for you who was doing commercials with him before he won the title for. Kron gotta be shoes. It's gotta be the shoes I mean. When did you know that M. J. was going to be Mj? When was that moment for you? Well dealing with some technical difficulties with spike. Try to get him back there Yeah he froze. They're all show with Georgetown. We lost you for seconds. You back now though. Go ahead shot gets Georgetown. That's my new that this This brothers going to be special now. I'm not I always GonNa be this great but I think he would be the greatest player ever my new special so didn't really surprise me that that this thing all spike. I remember in. She's gotTa have it when Mars Blackmon. Who's the character you did? Those gotta be shoes commercials with MJ early on when he was arguing like Bernard King against Larry Bird because that's all knicks fans had against per. Who was the baddest in the NBA? At the time you know and then you had Michael who is like a gift now you could use Michael to bludgeon bird or whomever else. But what we saw was the difference between the first version of M. J. Those championships where he was this unstoppable physical phenomenon and the second version of MJ. Who is taking it's already. Bj from his brought up the fadeaway jump shots and had to be more cerebral in his approach when you think of Mj which do you think of when I think M Jan thank The his entire career in as the great athletes. No you know certain point. You can't do what you used to do so yet to be more cerebral yet. You have to think more and it's just a natural you just know it's going to be twenty years forever so you have to compensate and use your mind and I'll think these other players who run jump that's you but you're smarter and he certainly did that. Bj Armstrong was just alluding to that. How much he changed in the second three versus the first three geico gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven which means that. Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you like your wife when you forget your keys at work and you get my text. I am looking for the spare Hausky. Maybe I can get through the window. Turns OUT THE ALARM WORKS? It works fast. You should probably call me back. Always there for you with savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents the five net flex Joan twelve cannot way we need some more good content tickets zoom especially with the dock being over spike. Lee Back here with us. Thank you so much for staying here. I WanNa get your movie in just a moment but let me jump back to the last dance real quick. 'cause please tell me about that story behind the moment when you're on the court your trash talking back and forth with Scottie. Pippin after he does on Patrick Ewing. Right now. Here's the situation okay. What's to wrestling Jaekle? Donald was y'all to ref the call attack because that was taunting way stood over. Patrick South Standard up now out trying to get the rest that that's a technical foul. He's like Ali's alley. Stand over. Listen you can't do that but the correct that we didn't get the technical we did it. Get Shot Means Scotty. While while the let me go to Scotty how did you? How do you believe he looked in this research? I Love Scotty. But when he said if he had to do it all over again he would do it. Oh Gee. Wti SPIDER SPIKE SOMETHING. That wasn't documentary. Marlton Housing Scotty say that he had to go back in time he will still not going to go into the game. How do you do that? Spike one of the things that wasn't covered in the dock. But but I remember from that era. I think it was after the fourth championship. Because that's when Jordan started making the thirty million a year after that on those one year deals. The last two seasons Jordan was supposed to be a nick. The Knicks were supposed to be going in after Michael so he could just join ewing and all them and switched the dynasty from Chicago to New York. I remember being heartbroken when that didn't happen. Were you aware of it at the time I presume you were. Did you ever talk to 'em about it or try to recruit them? That was not going to happen. He was not to New York like a lot of other people. Did US wrong for that. I know Stephen as crying right now. Kids see cancelled camera. Because you're so right it's just it's just sad state of affairs here. Spike. Let me ask you this quickly. What is an Jay's lasting impact what is his legacy not just on sports put it into context for me but on Culture Michael Chains the culture. And I'm not the first person. Say The people saying that in the dock but is honest God's truth he changed everything and we'll all lucky for you know I didn't get to see Willie mays in his his prime not that much because I was too young but the C. I was there you know an and it had related with two and you know the thing was a blessed with the commercials I got to do with. Mike is Mars blackmon and that was his like lucky thing. You know Mars blackmon converse. Sneaker head would wear Jordan's and JIM DATA IN JIM. Bill data wishful worked. Wieden Kennedy Nike's Agency. They saw the film call me up and said would you like do commercials with the Michael Jordan. So the rest is history. You know in those commercials blew up. Spike Lee. Put you on the spot before I let you get on Outta here. You notice how do you I know that the New York Knicks? I noticed the New York Knicks lost to the Houston Rockets in the NBA finals. But in the end when you look back on on on the Jordan era do is there any as you reflect on it? Do you believe that if Jordan had not retired that that the knicks would have ever won a championship? I know they didn't anyway. But are you of that mindset? You'd think about it at all as to whether or not the New York Knicks would have captured a championship in Jordan. And I Steve. I really is hard for me to answer hypothetical stuff because you can't change it. Michael Dorn was born. When was born with halves the Brooklyn New York? And that's what if if some. I missed the shot. The ball didn't go the Bucknor's leg Scott Scott Norwood and Mr Bill. I mean on on about what if a spike while you're on the subject born in Brooklyn New York again. This argument sometimes. It's Oh who is New York produced and when Dr J. in Kareem is not enough. I say you know M J lived in Brooklyn until he was ten years old. That's gotTa count for something. Does Brooklyn Jay all this ten years old. What's the question the question? Does it count? Does Brooklyn get to lay any claim? Yes he was born in Paul Ryan right now come on hospital the same hospital where Mike Tyson was born. Bernard King Albert King Dana Dane Little Anthony Lynn Anti Appearance Today Street. Let me ask you this and Max and Steven if you WANNA weigh in into. Because I didn't get your thoughts on it but I was surprised by this. You keep hearing about this flu game. Nobody could have done what? Mj Did with the flu game. And then you hear the story that it looks like in Utah. The five guys show up at the hotel with the pizza. It suspect he eats the pizza and it was probably food poisoning. My first thought was. Why did they even let him eat it? But what was your reaction to hearing that for man answer a new story and I knew that story I knew before. Let me say this. Let me say this and I want Scott I mean spike Max react off. This here was my initial thought. When Michael Jordan said that in confirmed that Dennis Rodman has complained about fans in Utah Russell? Westbrook obviously the word with fans in Utah in he almost got Winston Right. You might not you but not equal. Because I'm not leaving out Indiana but we're talking about this. It flew. That wasn't a fluke really was food poisoning in the Mormon state. All I want all I want to. Utah like a beautiful city. All I want is for the folks out there in the Mormon state to know is that those are very notable incidents associated with folks in Utah. I just want to say that. That's what I left thinking about well. Damning food poisoning before finally the clearly. The film is like you. Make the inference that it's not just that it's food poison poisoning but that he was poisoned that he was food poisoned intentionally that it that it was a delivered for him to give you an advantage. That's the inference that I drew or at least that's the implication. I think And that is. That's a serious thing. If true and not unheard of in sports in boxing certain countries that fighters went to during certain years. They complain that they'd have blurred vision. You couldn't drink the water here. You couldn't eat the food there. We've heard about like what Red Auerbach with doing in Boston. Garden right and and how people would try to use home court to their advantage by turning up the heat or turning off the cold hot water or whatever it is so it's not even as recently as what was it the Spurs series. Not that long ago there were rumors and kind of allegations. So that's that was a big thing. If true if the ideas that in fact he was food poisoned intentionally. I believe there's some people like win at all. Costs cost matter what you know winning all cost and I think there's a line that should not be broken and I definitely I mean. I knew that story about he was poised flat of poise. Yeah and the line was certainly crossed their spy. LemMe ask you this before we let you go. Can you please tell us about your film? June twelve net flicks. The five bloods. What's it about why it was important for you to make this film? Think we lost their all right. We're going to wrap it up here but again remember to check out. Spike spill the five bloods on Netflix June twelfth. It was to have him here with US. All right guys an ESPN poll released last night. In conjunction with the end of the last dance Docu series seventy three percent of NBA fans. Believe Michael Jordan is superior over Lebron James Jordan Linn. All seventeen categories hold including. Who would win one on one coming through in the Clutch? The better sneaker style and even better passer that was questionable. The age of the fans polled was split evenly between eighteen to thirty five year olds and thirty five and above and even the younger fans preferred Jordan. Two to one On that note we bring in Jay Williams Jay Gray tabby back here with us. I see your face Jake. But I've started with Max on this one Max with the release of the last dance Docu series. How much pressure do you think is on Lebron? Now that the younger audience got to get the real deal about. Mj More. It ratcheted up the pressure. First of all the passing thing. I understand that a lot Jordan fans Jordan was a pinpoint passer but Lebron James is a genius. Pass clearly Lebron James. A superior passer Jordan superiority. Matt Else Yeah. Of course Jordan superior basically everything else. That better handles. That are score. Better shooter was more. Clutch was for his size. A better rebounded Michael Jordan average. Thirty to eight. Nate back when that was like impossible to do they're more possessions now and and ball dominant players can rack up bigger numbers now but the reason the pressures ratcheted up is this guy. This is not an accident. The timing of this release will lose some luck involved. Michael Jordan decided to do this decided to go ahead when Lebron James lead his cavaliers back to win game. Seven at Oracle against the seventy three win warriors coincidence that Jordan decides okay. Now we go forward with this now. That Lebron member of the BRA that ship had the Jordan ship had sailed when he choked it away in four fourth quarters against the Dallas Mavericks in the two thousand ten eleven finals. Right like that was it. All right. Lebron you know you had a super team and you couldn't get it done and it was because you choked in the fourth quarter repeatedly. You didn't want it playing hot potato with the ball not making the correct. That didn't want the Jordan. Ship has sailed but Lebron clawed his way back into the conversation continually elevating his play and eventually having one of the great clutch performances of all time and by the way has since then had amazing postseason. Put Up Michael Jordan kind of numbers in the playoffs. So so the Broncos went back and that's when Michael and Lebron's crowning achievement Michael. Let's go forward with it now and now during this social distancing. Espn wisely moved up the release date of this thing and now with a with a captive audience essentially is doing monster numbers for documentary to. It's doing a six rate which the monster for a documentary. But when you include time shifted ratings you know because people. Dvr thirteen million viewers a week. Oh my God. So everyone is seeing Jordan's greatness and guys unlike so many others where distance increases the mythology of a player in fact with Jordan. The more you find out about him if his greatness has been smoothed out time Kobe approximated. It well maybe shack was done. All the not Jordan was better than everybody and the closer up. You see it the more you get it. It is now on Lebron. He has another super superstore. Another great chance to win a title with another top five players playing within the best record in the West if they resume this season the pressure is ratcheted up on him to try to continue to win championships because never failed six for six. My opinion is that anybody who knows basketball. There's very limited pressure on on Lebron James based off of the last dance because the last dance didn't tell us anything that we don't know as it pertains to believe about Jordan compared to Lebron. I as far as I'm concerned Lebron losing six championships that discussion ends right. There Jordan has six. Nba Finals MVP's and it's undefeated championship. Play Lebron James has been there nine times but he's lost six times. Here's where I will come to Lebron James Defense however I don't want to hear anything about Jordan being a better passer then Lebron James. That is not true. I certainly don't want to hear anything about Lebron. Having less of an image off the court then Jordan that is not true we have to respect the fact that Lebron James is pretty close to impeccable in terms of reputation off the court. This is a guy that came into the. I mean this guy that was on the cover of sports illustrated at the age of seventeen. You know as the Chosen One and even with six finals championship losses. He has still exceeded expectations. And let's not even that's that's before we even get to his off the court exploit you know what he's done for the people in. Akron Ohio for people in Cleveland. What he's done for the local economy what he's done with kids at risk kids and beyond what he's done for their parents what he's done for his community The role model that he has been as a father as a husband and everything in between this to his pretty applicable. Do you understand that? Lebron James Is Thirty. Five years of age it has seventeenth in the NBA. And the only thing that we can say about him negatively as a person in terms of how he's conducted himself was the actual decision. Okay and oh by the way in the interest of full disclosure any Any proceeds from that decision that was hosted by Green Bay. That Lebron did when he announced he was going to. Miami was given a charity. This stuff. That's going on the last dance at all the money. That people have been speculating. That Jordan is getting out of this Jordan personally told me it's all going to charity. He's given it all the way. He doesn't get any money from this so in that regardless understand something the brown will never be. Mj As a basketball player on the court. As far as I'm concerned but it every other category he's he's right there he's right up there and we have to give him the respect where it's do in that regard. I think there is pressure on Lebron James. And he's going to feel it from the media all the time now especially if season kicks off guys in the next month or so or month and a half on the tail end of this documentary and but I will say they're soupy pressure and Lebron James. There's always pressure. Lebron James and guys pressure makes diamonds. Okay like pressure is an opportunity and your Lebron James. If you're a player in that situation first off. Here's the thing we've always said that. Lebron James has been passive in regardless of whether you have him as your best player. Michael Jordan is your best player one of the things. I've always seen a NOCCO. Lebron it's kind of attitude whereas like in your face like Michael. We'll get gist of that all the time. We got a gist of it. When I forget he was doing some kind of Docu series whereas him randy and a couple of other guys. And he's like yeah. You see that moment right there. That moment right there made me grace of all time like and it was funny like Lebron found the said and you sold the Brian starting to believe himself that he thought he was the greatest all time. And then not Kerr that causes a stir whereas Michael Jordan would have said that all the time because he just believe that's how it was competitive as he is so I think Max go back to your original point. Yes pressure but Lebron who want that pressure. That's why the brand is the Brian Damn James so when he steps to the table this year. It's going to be. He's not chasing the ghost of Michael Jordan he's chasing the best versus Lebron. James can be else to debate. Whether he's the greatest are not sure Stephen. I talked to me. J Molly Molly questioning you. Jay Is this because I'm not saying and I didn't mean to apply there's no pressure on Lebron James. I'm saying that pressure exists and is what it is with or without the last dance directly feeding off the last dance. I don't believe there's any additional pressure. I don't believe that I believe the president alluded to has was there before the last dance. And I think it's going to be there now but not because of the last dance more. Now put Stephen A. We had the last dance. During a pandemic were. The numbers are astronomical. People have been at home yearning for content dine to watch something and then you tell me one of the greatest of all time has a ten part. Docu series that airs on. Espn DURING TOT Brian. Time that people are going to pay attention to that. That's not going to stir up emotions around. Who's the best ever? We're getting demographics from eighteen. To thirty five there are saying seventy three percent that Michael Jordan. A Lot. Better if breach shifts and recalibrate the conversation and the drastic like wait to act like that doesn't exist. That's you'd be remiss if you don't think that's going to add to another piece of it a buyer then for the conversation pressure after the now confess maximum being being remissed. Because I don't believe that at all. I think the pressure that Lebron James is going to feel if they come back is exactly the amount that pressure that he would have felt with or without the last dance. I really believe I understand like how does how does it go? This go to eleven. Like spinal tap is ten is the highest B.'s. Already at ten. This actually does go to eleven. I think it ratchets up the pressure. Because it's not just playing for now playing for history. The reason I said usually time helps. Mythology is great players adds to their greatness. Oh my God. And you forget all the warts but in Jordan's case time worked against him because when your eyeballs are on Kobe Bryant. You can't imagine anyone ever better than that. Say who could be better than that or Lebron James? Same thing how. You can't get better than that. Once there was there was a little better offensively. We'll better defensively won more championships. Did it with with with less a obstacles? Never got to the seventh game in the finals. All those things. Yeah Jordan was actually better so recency. Bias is actually on his side. Suddenly because of this doc you know like why was Koby and now Lebron and then the next guy going to be in in the in the likes of the lights of many millions better than Jordan. Because he's their guy because it happened more recently in fact now all of a sudden because of this pandemic because of the timing of this documentary. It's doing numbers like like an NBA finals. It's doing numbers as bullets alive event so the recency bias. The most recent thing that happened is everyone revisiting and many people visiting for the First Time. Jordan's greatness apex of his powers those six championships and now suddenly. That's what's fresh in people's memories and Lebron has to aim a little higher stephen a Smith. I'm up there. I'm not syncing out to you today or are you engaged in this conversation. I don't feel like yours riled up as you used to being. You seem very laid back today. Well I don't think I got other things on my mind primarily my ABC special discount tomorrow. Night so I hear where you're coming from what I was saying. I'm not trying to necessarily disagree. I'm not trying to necessarily disagree with where. Y'All are coming from. But I do in this respect. I just look at Lebron James and I'm thinking okay. We had the last dance and we had those numbers because there is no other sports going on when Lebron James and the NBA returns. I don't think anybody's going to be saying Jordan and the last dance. I think they're gonNA be sending Linda standing in your way. What are you going to do about it? Which is something that we were talking about the last dance. That's where I'm coming from. What time is that special so to Cetera? Dvr's in case eight eight am Tuesday night eastern on ABC Network television. I don't know why they dislike that to me. I mean everybody. Lookout buckle up. Because you're Stephen a Smith that's why they did it and you're GONNA put on a show. No question guys. I just want to mention this quickly. Nj still polls as the most popular athlete in America despite being retired for seventeen years and this was before the documentary. It's really remarkable when you think about it look back as very gratifying come from Wilmington North Carolina and never been in Chicago. That became a woman became part of my history. My Passion on the Basque. Roku should have been fixed. Because that's how I try to play. I play for them. We start with hope. Start withhold information team to one all time best dynasty. All you needed was one match to start that old. Fire here we here. We GO STEPHEN MAX J. I want to pay attention and it's these the top five people. Michael needs to be thankful for in his career. I'm starting to know I'm doing. Virtual Studio Molly Broach rule thought. Let's go to give it to me. Y'All why because he's still jacked enough walk Michael Jordan win titles until he came along Doug Collins was great Phil. Jackson was obviously the triangle with with the master -tations folk get the kind of thing that he did managing the personalities along thought Michael Jordan while all of this stuff with going on through Detroit through L. A. Portland to Phoenix the thing Utah twice. What Phil Jackson did? Deliver top champion as the first six came with Michael Jordan. Phil Jackson got to give him up. Let's go to number four on the list job. I stay Thomas because he was a Detroit fifth and that's what a bed that's watch and the role to prosperity has always paid with a level of it that one must overcome to submit and validate wants great. They Thomas was the leader the bad boy Pistons They Audit Jordan for the championship runs. That would follow the Thomas and the Detroit. Pistons has to be on that list. Let's go to number three on the list Scottie. Pippen WATT. That was the ultimate side kick. That was the Rodman to Michael Jordan. Back man this is the top fifty greatest players one of the top five defended the history of basketball pits. Far as I'm concerned regardless of how he listened to this Docu series. The bottom line is he went out there. He bought he got done. He took care business and Jordan could not have won. The title was out in which Jordan admitted in the doctor series. You're gotta get left the Scottie Pippen. Let's go to number two one. Live magic the magic man himself. Before the Jordan era took place there was a magic. Johnson Larry Bird era. What they did for the game of basketball paves the way for Jordan to come in and sent. Dick be no rains. There can be no rain. If you don't have a rain take over really magic and bird and what they did for the game of basketball met so much instill continues today to me so much that it assisted in elevating the Jordan era. Because he'd beat magic in order to really really start that run as well and the magic man magic small ingratiated himself can start households across America. Make It easy for America to accept the black man into their living room. That's right I said. That's what happened with magic. Johnson came to wait for Michael Jordan. He's number two on my list. But I'm going to knuckle one ten down for this jake. You're sitting down for this molly sitting now for the specs Kelvin. Nopal one person Michael Jordan needs to be thankful for it's super agent. David Falk out. David was considered an elite agent. To begin with but then check this out. Y'All Kim with it. David Falk that took Michael Jordan. Today's meeting with Nike Nike wasn't Nike Bacteria. We didn't know who the Hell Phil Knight was back. Then we were talking about Converse Nike Jordan admitted. He wanted to go to a beat. It was David fought along with Michael Jordan's mom and daddy that got him to take the meeting with Nike. And the reason why Jordan it could afford to average four million dollars over the first eleven years of his career was because he was getting money from Nike. That's why he did it. He built Nike Nike's brand Jordan. Okay because they owed that to him but David is the one that brought that opportunity to Michael Jordan. He is number one on the list. They'll Jackson and number four number five Isaiah Thomas. That number four Scottie. Pippen at number three Bourbon. Magic Johnson at number two and they as noble war does my a-list. This is usually. I have one or two things to quibble about with the list a lot of times. They're good list this the terrible list and I'll leave off because I'm sure you'll agree. Is I think Michael Jordan's father should be number one on that list. You saw what Jane should strive so so but okay but I'm GonNa leave that alone Stephen A. Because I get it. You're not going to argue that. Of course I'm GONNA say this. This is why this list really truly awful. Magic Johnson ahead of Scottie. Pippen and Isaiah ahead of Phil Jackson to be thankful for. What do you think it is? Michael Jordan refused to play for another coach after the second three peat. He's not gonNA play for a coach other than Phil Jackson. Why do you think that is the greatest coach of all time? And then the greatest second banana of all gave him. You'RE GONNA give his opponents more credit as luckier for magic. And Isaiah that and Scotty. Whoa Max Max. Wait a second. Why Stephen a lot Stephen Max? Where we on this show? I think it was a week and a half ago and you said that Jordan would have won six or seven championships if it was Doug Collins. It didn't matter who the coach was. Were you the same person on this? Show saying adult. But now you're GONNA in the same breath elevate Jackson. You don't know when I say what I said was what I said was given a good coach and a second banana. Like if you're gonNA take Scottie Pippen. Spur is Tom got cut off right there. Right there dipstick pop star there. That's exactly what I'm J. Yesterday. Got The next day. Why is what would colors Stephen? Why stop at Your Jewelry Stop it? That's exactly what you said. You exactly what you said. Okay go ahead go. Hey all I'm gonNA say as it relates to Thomas I Steve Day. I'm on board with it. Like you have to go through that level of competition and in a lot of ways the batboys those teams what elevated. Michael Jordan's toughness order chief. That ultimate liberal success. I'm with you on the list. I like the list. I like to list a lot when Isaiah Thomas stop playing. Michael Jordan kept playing. But when they wouldn't bring Phil Jackson back he was like. That's it. I'm not playing basketball anymore coach. Who then wound up winning five championships. After that. Know you're going to give a how would you know you wasn't paying no attention a basketball trying to be a rap artist stopping then you stop it on solving personal perfect transition just slightly suspect that you didn't put the father on their Stephen a? But I will say this. It's giving me life even a-list back you know it is. It's giving me like when I get a Stephen List. It puts me in a good mood. Status Michael Jordan's parents doesn't memorial as a part of the list. Because they are the list there would be no need for an a list of them. There are higher than a-list they all Titian poku apparent. Talk your way. That's why you're so good together. Yeah talk list out to it. Let me get to another subject here. It's time now for the next edition of prime time as we ask our NBA experts to rank the best fifteen players in the NBA. Right now. So far we've got Jimmy Buckets. Fifteen kyrie irving fourteen. Paul George Thirteen very fitting Russell. Westbrook twelve Joel Embiid at eleven to. Who's the first player to crack the top ten the tenth player? I take prime time players. Nba Rankings Mykola Yokich. His forty triple doubles ranked ten in NBA. History Joker tells again with another nifty time while Chuck Baio Kids Leads. Denver and total points assists in rebounds. That season something. He's done each of the last two seasons Nikolai Yokich next Kelly. You're up first. How close is the joke to becoming an NBA superstar? He's very close. Sometimes I him I get the sense that he's not internally as motivated as the superstars the way Stephen A. Points out if embiid was more like the Free Foot. Yokich is an underrated. Defender a brilliant passer at the position and an offensive load. He is really the reason. His team is a powerhouse because he's a powerhouse. There is a difference though between you know all star or perennial star top five player at your position and a superstar and maybe it's just his style of play but the kind of the thirst that Stephen A. You often you juxtapose embiid beat on the one hand with the free up next that freakish stuff from Yokich don't either and that's he's a star. I think he's a star. He's very productive. But but I don't consider him a superstar number one and number two Max. What the Hell you mean powerhouse. Don't you at least have to get to a finals? A winner finals before. You're a powerhouse. The Denver Nuggets have been there in a while. They've been in the playoffs the up and coming but did not gala house yet. So I'm not. I'm not feeling that at all and I don't agree that joke superstar go ahead Jay. I agree with you. I was going to say that talent. Wise he's close to a superstar but psychologically I think he has a long way to go because he he's still these work on this condition and he still needs to work on that. I'm GonNa do is every single day and take off season workout seriously as well fell. Great show covered a lot of ground tomorrow on. I take the Griffin brothers of the seahawks. Shaquille Chemo be here. An Jeff Van. Gundy J. will always good time having you my friend. We'll talk tomorrow.

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Ball is Bae - S2E21 - Of Toronto, Train, and Thor

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Ball is Bae - S2E21 - Of Toronto, Train, and Thor

"The. Delivered by Simmons is the tagger. They got the conference finals warranted. On one side, the upstart the other the more wanted to series of seven games. Eat what we pray back at it again, with them Indian tones. It's ball is your favorite and be a podcast in Indian accent. We've managed to screen them to Sipa. So just before the conference finals begins on Wednesday, as always if you like what he should follow us on Twitter at volleys, be bored. And you just search for balls bay and be a podcast, this season of the podcast is getting over soon. So if you have suggestions on what you want to hear more of in the next season. Please do. Let us know. We love hearing from fence, especially to our Instagram fan, who keep active on all stories and post and falls and being encouraging more than anything. Speaking of engagement, we've got with us as always go host who's prediction powers are as we as mine, but who was in Luxembourg this week country with school. Bothered to find a different name for its capital named Luxembourg city, but also named it steeple Luxembourgers, which is beyond dope to be very honest. We need say hi to the audience, everybody. I mean, I think I missed I said, you're possibly Q four four four. Four four four four zero. Speaking of we got some other friends of ours who have also predicted everything I think for pro do you want into yesterday? Oh, definitely odd. Is you heard a special guest for the NBA playoffs, this episode the son of the son-in-law Manila, and the barber who doesn't Karen Medoc also supersonic? Welcome to the Parker to have duvets us again. Hello. Hello. And welcome to be back. I'm bocom to be back. Welcome to okay. Dates. You're welcome for having me. Thank you for being with us. I mean, crazy crazy nightly, like I don't remember last time I saw two consecutive NBA games sevens decided on literally like the last minute of the game like the Denver. And. Denver Portland game. CJ McCollum doing his thing, and Kawhi Leonard. I mean, I don't even have words for one that came was like a proper slugfest proper Eastern Conference like no offense, just just Buskens. This going in somehow. Discuss a little bit of that. But just early talks about, you know, an two-minute talks about what he saw today inside with you. You know you're thousand four star to game sevens. Usually historically really bad like this very rarely get great game sevens now. Yes, we all remember like the classic finals game seven the Cavs warriors. One heat Spurs one. Celtics wanna Gribben some good ones. But the usually very ugly. You know, just to get back to back games which both went the distance and. You could have easily had two different conscience finalists very easily. So it wasn't like the teams who won. No one can easily say like the teams who lost much worse. Right. It was just their day. You know. Yeah. And that short. Oh my goodness. Deco. I shot I need to have Vinnie talk about it, because I need some tears on this podcast. Here's we need what they do. You feel like did you feel like the ball being bounced about four times on enforce your feeling? I mean I don't know. Man. It was it was redemption, because I've been on why I mean before even like twenty thirteen and know. So it's. Before you go on your sports spreads fan, and you don't hear Kawai. I don't hit. Econ. My other close sports fans in my life. I think they, they loved him so much to them like he was the he was their beta like they didn't see him grow up. But this white grow up the and the heart he was the beta who basically stabbed the father in the back. And then, so there's a lot of heat among mothers is the -freshing see you don't hit them. 'cause co is also my favorite player in the NBA. The he does hit D'Amato's like. I think I think for me, you know, a true, Spurs fan could never head correct, because he just plays the game that idea. And that's like a truce pleasant Spurs fan about I. I really would like to that question dot statement over find. Let's, let's get right into it. He wants to play all season. Hey, man. You know, sometimes the family. Yeah. Yeah. That meets okay? Start off the Philadelphia seventy Sixers versus Tronto doctors game seven absolute beast of game like data. It was offensively struggle. I think the score at half and at the third quarter Mark was sixty four sixty seven something to ensure it was really low and I would like okay fine. They're jacking up threes. It's not going in. Hawaii is the only one who even seems like he is, he's got some conference to shoot. And he like, Sean. Missing everything. So huge those often three months, I think I think he, he was he was the reason like the game was king Rana could still manage to do. The Kylie also manage to show up didn't show up on the side, MB decided that he's sort of a Steph Corinne, just posting up outside the lane. He didn't show after the basket at all. And db two had completed disappeared. The last Jimmy Butler, tried to do some things are what was your initial person. Do you think the seventy Sixers could have done a few things? Little differently maybe offensively to not be out of the playoffs by now. That's the pricing because the seventy Sixers. I've been inconsistent all season. Live in one game. Very well and then the job in the next game, right? It was definitely heard on this series. So I think the bigger issue is Benjamin's and don't pay together. I think. This is like I read this amazing wondering, actually the other day, which argue that Simmons should be a center like he should be based Bailey should basically play like Jack up. Draymond green roll like dream on Cisco twenty per game because he doesn't do any anyways. He he's never gonna learn how to shoot so screwed. And so that's why him and beat all of is going to clash because if the perimeter Dicon shoot the big guys going to have to shoot. Or everyone else will have to try and shoot, right. Exactly. I think that issue, they couldn't have done anything different because I feel rafters except for every other after basically tried to lose the series like every other after was terrible. I really think this was a win more than anything else. And the Sixers were just too banged up too much of like I talked about this on our who podcast like a few days ago. Their starting five barely spent time together. So this playoff ended up being there like chemistry experiment to see if the because they really don't they had started up early and spend two months figuring out how they been by Nabi might not might know who they are. So I just think they have a lot of issues and either the coach needs to go or Ben Simmons leads to go or, or something. I don't see any scenario where Ben Simmons will be asked to leave. I mean that's part of the process but I think even vinita the same point like we discussed this sometime in the past, that the problem is that Simmons and beat both can be successful in the same place. And so they are kind of overlapping on each other's time. So we agree with that thing does Simmons need to go. I mean I definitely think that I think spacing different issue, but for me more than spacing. I think it's base. I think Simmons is fast. Have you? Seen him get the Bard on this. You know, and then you had this Embiid, just like lumbering and then Tobias head is kind of lumber so. I thought this one start which tracks how many times Embiid falls down in there. Like every ten minutes. He falls on one. So when I say something you so can I say something and be defensible falling? I read about how his. What do you call the doctors that, that your injuries or your whatever? What? This like this kind of name Leka, fancier name, whatever. Okay. Busy of his told him that basically he has to repair his body to to to avoid injuries. You have to prepare body like dancers, do which means you fall often. You'll learn how to even if you get a little bit of a nudge, fall, every time this fall. So instead of basically, you're not putting stress on your knees by holding your weight up on your knees. Are you just you just letting yourself go and letting the bigger body like take your takeaway? Did he not say your two hundred eighty don't go on falling on people? That's not a folly people don't, but I think the issue is that history under eighty pounds fall on his own and his. That's the kind of wide. Okay. Yes, we are saying about facing. Yeah, I, I think about base. I think. You know, I think it would be travesty vote was separated because they, they're really really good players and they really young. But. The coach are the, the management is to figure out like a lineup there. Ben Simmons can be successful where he can play face. He can kind of do the Lakers. You know, Magic Johnson kind of thing where he can, you know, he has like these two flanking guys coming running with him. And they're scoring in that base. I think I think that investments places just like magic. Like he's just he can see people that you can't see. Any the handles the ball and is I don't know how he does is it just looks like it's just like the ball, just taking into his hand. He's not even trying to do it. So he he's a great talent. And he's what to think so it's not that it's not that also, I would, I would extend his rookie contract. But, but, but yeah, I mean, the, the board are not the best fit. But I think if he learns how to shoot then it could be the game seven I don't think he's. At least at least in game seven it will like you were expected to be on the poorest, and the vestments to be outside. And then, you know run around, but it was a seaman I on the low post and beat wasn't like in the three point. And they don't take advantage of it. I mean, you have one of the fastest one of the like, like you said, most visited Boyne got fakes within six then like you could be a center also. But if you are a little bit of a Florida or something of that, sort of make it seem at least that people could, you know, like give some attention and the actors defense today was completely swarming and beat anytime. He got the ball, the low post made sure he got the ball out of him. And then just everyone imagine like in the last of the game too short to acquire listens. Not one to short clockwise which is basically not having any clue of what they're doing on offense. And one of those sorts of relations was after a timeout. Then the said listen, this is what you're going to do. And they could manage to do that. Does add those, those mistakes, I don't expect from team which has Jimmy Butler Annette and was the guy who had the ball. Let me ask you guys a question zoom that we, we accepted what Simmons and Embiid are incredible players. All right. And. And both either together or separately could win titles. Good. I mean. So let me ask you this was going to be the higher number in twenty years, the higher number the number of titles and bid wins. And I'm assuming they get separated. Okay. The number of times. Or the number of three pointers Simmons makes. Just just the number of three pointers makes. This is by having Carmen ill. Pull up these random scenarios racial still make sense, even though like a normal one it should not make any sense. Do you mean number of three pointers? He'll make or he'll eight hundred make in. Just if he makes pointers in his career, I think, to jump inches is what I'm talking. Yeah. I mean I just don't think we should worry about Ben's like developing a sharp. You just has to be better. You should just have team around. I absolutely disagree with that point like. I there is no way that he's an amazing athlete like, but he's a basketball player. First of all, he should know how to get the ball in the basket. If they don't, if they're clogged Elaine, you should know how to be able to get the skin and I don't mean from that from beyond the three point lead. I'm not talking about analytically three-point dunks, something that you should be able to get like if you're within ten fifteen feet of the body should be able to somehow get the ball, you should not be alive letty on that side of the court. I think I think every NBA starter should have a better three point shot than I do. And and, and Simmons is the one dozen even the terrible centers probably better than I do. But I, I. Not what you said, I should like I'm not out the needs to be like a superstar three point shooter, but just enough so people respected, just so he can, then they can sort of test different lineups with them right now. It limits them because he's so crippled in one thing. But I just want to add that I think, see I hit in Simmons that like, because of two consecutive years of no-shows, he will show up at sometime, and I think Simmons and I don't think they should, I think somehow they will work something. Maybe I don't know. I'm not big on coaching changes, especially when they've been brought up like this, but I have faith that, you know, seventy Sixers franchise has like Lord of better days in the future with that will will go the guy, the guy who picked Boston Iraqi. I just want to give, I just want to give context to the listeners on I, I was when he when we when. Biology. To the finals. I had just doing all the way finds and absolute to be. I agree with you in a flat situation. I forty. There was a curvature reached that point. What can I say, these people don't like like my heartaches, but like that, that is okay by, like I thought I had the talent that they're not. They just had a Kyrie Irving lake jacking up sorts. But again, coming back to the Celtics and the box like opposite, demolition Dhabi. They lost game one at home but then did not look back at all Celtics as throughout the things I don't think any of the games where even close after that after that I just close. And none of those games even candy and say that, all like a basket fall there anything nothing like destruction Dhabi. So what is the odd Ferrara like this is the final once I realize Celtics inaugural make it like Kawai a like a proper supersonic? No doubts about who the superstars vets team of people who know that he was a white like the proper to our superstar, like does all these things unstoppable. And a team of people just looking up to him like their Colegio our. Yes. Will win it. I mean, I, I let Karen and then my day because my your take is what is your? On this take that you might take against my, my love. Find you you've been passed the baton. So I might go for your love. I actually feel that, that the raptors. So one of my like I have a good firm Canada Vancouver. And for the longest time he because Vancouver had the grizzlies. So he even being Canadian he did not like Toronto, because he was by my team is my team is the grizzlies, and I'm actually closer to. Closer to what used to SuperSonics. What's not Portland close to Toronto. Right. So he so he calls the raptors the crafters and. I under- tractors really like a party co. I really crafted the series they sort of survived. Kyle Lowry is one of the worst like I've never seen a player go from so good in the regular season two so bad in the playoffs like the, the, the differences stupefying to me, he doesn't like hustle takes like, you know, the kind of thing that Chris Paul would do just hustle ways, but his scoring just dips and it's terrible. But I say all that to say, I think, Kawhi Leonard is the one, man like one man changer of all the curses all the captors everything like he's single handedly, so good and so stories, and he's, you know, he's basically like I shared this today of Terminator two thousand to me. That's what Leonard represents. He is. He's gonna stop anything. He's honest emotions, he's gonna come intermediate you and Trump. I think that box very good. They've been the league's best offense abandon team if you they're all all season. But I think this is the point where the inexperienced will finally show at this point with every superstar steam where the playoff all hits the first time in the here, and I think this will be the playoff wall for Yannis as much as I love him. And I think this. This clash is going to be an epic clash between the two of them. I think this is will be very close series but they're actors will win game seven hundred four seven hundred dollars. I with the some of the things he said, what I don't agree with the inexperience because even though Jaanus is inexperienced. I think on that team. They've got some Grant Hill who Lassie last the Celtics really short of the bench. And I do think. Hill, Georgia Dotson. Grant and showing up would be granted still breaking. Georgia'll so, but, like, isn't it? I think like the bucks benches. Also, much stronger than the throne of bench. And I agree that like Kawhi, which who's thirty nine I mean who shoots thirty hundred forty points is not an efficient Kawai but he had to do that, because it's a game seven and then game seven you don't bring it to the book you go by how the game works out you try to work it out on, like I think you have more inefficient than the for talking so much experience. I should get in the game. It's all. On about that particular game. And like you don't have anything to come back if you show that and that's the game. Oh, I don't mind being inefficient because like, who cares? If you're like, honestly, to me, the Karai was super efficient for six games like incredible historic efficient. Yeah. Exactly. So sixty to me, while honestly you know, I got flashbacks Kobe Kobe like like in a game seven situation. I'm serious. No. Every like let me take you back to game seven two thousand ten again. The Celtics, okay, six hundred six twenty four but he found some way like grabbed rebounds being mean whatever he did to me was the anti James harden in this in this game in the closing moments for sure he basically he didn't care about how he did it if it followed analytical thing I will rant about the rockets analytical bullshit later, we will have to that. But like I what you started on his hundred percent. Who cares what the score you had to win the game. It doesn't matter how. Yes. Extra. I mean, honestly, I, I want to make the raptors but the raptors. The supporting cast social socia- that I think that after that. I cannot the raptors to win against boxy. I think both of them both Janas and career. Excellent. Excellent talent. They're extremely hungry. I think Yannis is probably a little more hungrier. So he's going to he's going to he's going to show up. I'm not I'm not afraid of that. I think the question is like matchups. Right. So if you do the matter of. Of, of their actors and the Sixers who got Yannis, right? And usually it's like like regular regular season. And it's been very good. I think Yanna stashed in for like forty forty dollars. There as Chris Middleton and, and Covina have kind of cancer each other out in, in the motions like they have done a good job of guarding each other and touching each other simultaneously. And then you have the other which is guy Nari they bought a shit. But if I pick somebody, I would Eric Bledsoe. And in my opinion, the, the wild card for every for like the buck series already system. Because he's just like there's I don't think there is like after you take care of Janas and Christmas. And then this Robin Lopez goes in shoes like these threes. Sorry, Brooke Lopez's and. I would love to pick that up. Trust me. I. But I just if I can if I see, like a good coverage of, of Yannis. I big rappers, but I I just don't see who who guards yards at this point, even. The only thing that will give the rappers, and also the raptors at tire. Nor of a lot of Kawhi like missing shots. I don't know if you saw he buried Johnston. He was he was exhausted. He badly. He's he didn't have dog in his legs. He had nothing and other outside computer overheats. And that was. The machine just had, you know, just like. On that one last here. Oh, clock and the boxer fresh, they're gonna come in, and they got advantage, which is like according to stat is like eighty percent or something that I don't I don't remember what is something of a big deal. So I think that's why I picked big the bucks. But my heart always lives, it covi-. And if there is a close game, I supported apples. There's a close support selectors. Does he said on the road? If there's a close in the Spurs beat the nuggets. So we all know how that turned out Spurs plate shit in the last, let's be honest shit. They go by. Display shade. I'll give my to move onto the real conference. Like if you just go by how the last game that played, I think having too much rest is also not a good thing. I think packs, they had like to rest before now playing again, on Monday Wednesday or Thursday, India, India. Thing. But at least I think they have the advantage of having comprehensively beaten their offense. Like comprehensively beat the pistons and comprehensively beat Celtics like, but again, raptors are a different beast, but raptors also play kind of similarly, the do a lot of that individual person's thing and Kauai and Yanni's concert about Janice has the better star I feed, and I think box and six my prediction, of course, don't. The one thing I give I throw in here is the boxer also coached by, by coach bide who comes on the Spurs philosophy. So he's never gonna let Janice dominate. You know, they were times when this was playing the Lakers and back in the time was part of that, but also is a former suppose personal. Yeah. But then he has Nikolai Yokich who does not dominate anytime. Okay. I thought you meant the Albuquerque. So. Yeah. The general philosophy is you went together, and you lose together. Like that's when, when you went together, you just cannot, like bustle, everybody, right? Like what this was to the Miami. Like we just take a bus killing. So. This is one thing that I think might been the favor of raptors because covi- has free rein. He wants to do even I remember those. This interview to be like this. Between the games. They ask questions and the nickname like do think combining into this at he's taking too many shots. And all those other shorts. He says taking everything. And so, I feel like you know. I think probably do a better job then Janas in this kind of like posit out, everybody. So that's the only thing letting. Raptors will have a chance, which is if viral it takes over and Yannis stuck in coaching coaching them. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's very interesting. Like a way to look at it moving on to the actual conference of the NBA the Western Conference. We have again, we have two teams who have a lot of shooting in their midst to us classroom slash plus light. Will start with today's gave the Denver game. I thought today was a real example of, you know, how good Damian Lillard 'cause absolute crap storm in the foster half. I think he's had one point two five point something, but he did not let that ruined his as the real reason where someone offensive not like teams hardened differs from someone like that. If you really don't know what he's doing. But Dame Lillard, even when he didn't go, he had a steel, very crucial. Steal. He had a lot of what eighty one hundred eight assess it was a proper game where when he realize it's not going in is like, no Marie. I will do my other job. And then even the last shot he is like CD. You're the guy with the with the magic happening with the little magic happening school gopher and do it on, like, you know, nor even no sense of I think that's a. Sense of leader for I really feel for the nuggets like yoke all like they had a seventeen point halfway halftime lead. And then some really stupid decisions and the second quarter let that go, a seventeen point lead became a nine point zero eight hundred or something like that, like completely like the whole scenario went away. And then towards the end they missed the free throws took some really bad. A lot of bad three pointers absolutely about three pointers. We'll start with. Wants to raise and kind of gotten. The guest, bro. It's I'm also very than I really enjoyed that team. It's it was, it was such a refreshing, not anything against Portland, fine. But I was really love with Yokich fat for all playoffs. He was. That dude, I've said this, so I keep repeating this. He's got Maya clinic ability, and he's one of the. This is. It's marriage. But he's also seven one. But still like a seven one who's like, basically his body, shaper Golgotha and the dominates the league you know, like he's he dominated without even. So I really love his game. And I love like his approach the game. So just to him this season. It was amazing. But shadow to the they showed their word, and Jessie, j was the man, which right deem is people. Talk about him enough. He's one of the best bureau leaders in the NBA is just every year, his team overreaches what they were like they're not on people didn't look that great. And the end the west, but the oldest and you would except for last year, I think they were swept by the Dow was one big Mark on his career, and they made up for it the season. I hope you're listening to. Definitely listening. So, so, yeah. I think. Also very impressed by that finish. And. And we need a new nickname for these brothers those splash brothers. What it's gonna be I show you have something like we would love to hear what you've, I mean, if I know that I, I know that the worst backward in the worst backward. I John niggardly Bill. Probably the liike, nah. And Dennis Smith JR. Junior's corpse. Right. So I know they're the trash brothers. But I don't know what's in the trash, we need some time. Some I just below slot stores. The way if you're listening, if you have something. Hit us up and we will definitely call you out for the we come up the next next nickname. Yes, we need to. I know you are also huge fan of joker, and he was MVP longtime. He was the best player in the league for like forty percent of the. I mean I mean I always said in a big fan of the Damian Lillard and the and the Portland, always underdogs. Always I think I put him as my choice this time in Dame, Lydia. The entire league assaying, honest harden, one guy in Luxembourg setting and saying, Daimler MVP, like what the hell? This is my big man know. I think if you look at it, they were two games below, then I get something that I mean I Dave eventually. Yeah. And. They have. Nobody really. I mean, you know, so like James harden, and Janas and all these people and be why not give it to the editor was my thing is that the results. Okay. Yes. Kalaheo kit or Daimler is one of those two. Any both teams. Man. I mean, I think the. This is like the most boring part of the stretch like this person snow. Because in the end you meet the Golden State Warriors, who just lie. So them when when the after is with us. I that we should just go. Like how can team? Interesting interesting now. 'cause like okay. Delegates you've gotten that. We've got the Minnie's last rivers special diet or whatever. Now we have State Warriors slash. Pretty nicely. But the thing is, but now it has a warriors team without Kevin Durant. So I don't think they are the same saga notice as possible. We'll get to that in a second. But late let us discuss game six against the Houston Rockets. How disappointed are you that Houston Rockets could not beat this warriors team at least gives? That's okay. I mean I mean, imagine if you if you keep making the narrative that we wanna faith warriors, the Bill to beat the warriors, we are going to beat the warriors will go down, and you get a bonus. A good mayday gift, Kevin Durant is not playing like that time with them over the edge is not playing and yet your narrative Steelers will be will be the and you cannot beat them at their own home. Like how how pissed off the rockets beedon's, do, do you think this is it for them like they are two staff, Don Tony realize that this thing doesn't work and then more to better assist features again? Send some some boiling rates. Keep using analytics as an excuse for, like, very let currency spat sorts your Barakat. Go state on this clear the way before that. Caroline Hyde 'cause they always extend their names. So. So many answers to your many questions. When we talk analytics thing, right? And should they chug it or not? They tried remember this Carmelo Anthony, the human walking and analytic machine. Hey, Melika held them in this series. Harvey was just backing up not doing a damn thing, mellowed have just been like your nobody in this team can stop me. There's not let me just let me just finish this off. You know, not nothing. He would have won at least done something. Let's zoom. This was your. Kissed argument and that's more. Because I. Analytics? Okay. Analytics? Great. They're also very important. But this is the way I look at them, you know. So I follow football soccer football a lot. And I look at analytics at the regular season in the NBA is similar to a league in football. The best team in the league is usually you basically have to be consistent and you only play great teams maybe seven or eight times a year. If you are a top fourteen inflamed shit team, so you can just chug along with your former line when the teams win the Champions League, which is the playoff, quote unquote version of that really have to have like more of the intangibles, I hate to say stuff like the heart or have the never say die. Attitude of basically, be sounds very intangible and to, to machine with sound very weird, but be saw that it matters. We saw in these last two games when Katie went out, and I know you guys are not as big on Korea's I am. But the do short high he basically had terrible shooting games, each time and destroyed the opponent. Each time, you know and. So, so I think in the regular season this trash works or just in verse able work in a league system. But when it comes to the playoffs, you have to be a bit more multiple things and rockets do one thing they, they are so predictable James harden becomes like he against to machine. Like he's, he's very good all time, great guards. But as long as he keeps failing in the playoffs. I don't even see I James harden, spoiled, also, but they got Chris Paul to help James over the biggest Christoffersen amazing between shooter, like I think some of his shorts like absolutely goal, but they don't go to him to get those sorts and they keep going to the dunks or dunk or three points. Dunkley. It doesn't matter if you are on game six game you have to does it matter how you get the ball in the basket like something, we've discussed the like I also give the career example, right? He he was scoreless in that game for half. I. The whole thing like, oh my formulas, and working, so I can't do anything, but he sort of found some ways to contribute. And then thirty three in second avenue. So you're by the way. Hardened stats were like incredible. The whole series, let's not forget that he played like a hell of series if you just look at the stats. But that's where like watching a basketball game much different from looking at the box score. You know you see a game, there's something looks offered them. And there's another first time this happens to him. This is. Every every series with the Houston Rockets, somehow hardened does not show himself as the guy he wasn't the which I think makes complete sense with your very Megan Champions League and it puts the season into perspective for me and sort of what I always believe I think he's very overrated again. Nothing is bad. I just think it's very overrated. I like he'll his regular snow scoring look like even the greater scores in history. But it has with an asterisk of his agree score in history in when you playing trash teams most of the time already playing teams who are unmotivated to win, like I know he'd be the warriors in that epic whatever overtime game. But the warriors won't giving us much of a shit, then as they're now. So it's exactly also like I've said this on the bus also that, you know, like if you put petard in high in a system where he gets the ball so many times. And he's the master of all with. Then, like your numbers will be inflated like should combat acid recess. The numbers are due to the extremely high usage rate and. One more thing. This is a positive for the rockets use, it should definitely not big because. If Durant leaves all of a sudden, west is, there's, you know, so it's I think the rockets should just try again. But, but, but basically, add something new to not be so predictable. Maybe maybe a little bit of the bedouin somewhere by fourth quarter. That is that is pretty I have come mellows listening to we need your take on the warriors. Now now. I think most of that season, I know you care because warriors winning all that nonsense. But tell we this now we have trailblazers with, like an amazing backward, obviously wreck second-best backward. And we have a warriors team without Katie like Saratov Katie, like we've always started workers. Absolutely terrible. Whatever gets out. And especially like at this point, one of the greatest players in this. Coming back. I think they said he's gonna get evaluated. I'm not sure of a good thing or not. They said, don't know. We hope he comes back. But actually, we hope it doesn't come back with takes respite as she can come back for the finals because we always on our habits. But again so now we have a warriors team. Like after juggernaut nor the seventy three and they don't have Kevin Durant. So they don't have that thing which puts them leaks about everyone else. How do you think this series is going to do you think it should it should still be like even footing for both of them? I have ever had, but I should I should I should let that pass 'cause they are out they've gone fishing or actually it's done gone. I don't have more. But I think I think he's going to be there for the for the finals. I don't think if. Countries, vans. I think he's going to be there. So so my strategy for for the potential advice I was thinking about this. I was in the bus coming to the office is they cannot guard, the Golden State wise. They just can't they don't have the. Yeah. They don't have the personnel, and they should not waste their time and energy trying to guard. It is they should just focus on offense. Open that should up CJ and Damon Daimler out to the point line back pain. So that these people also have to play some big at least at least one Mooney has to be there with Ramon cream the conscious plan. Andrea, dalla? This just like, you know, Steph, Mr. Tate threes. Go girlfriend clay was gopher eighty possessions, eighty five possessions. And even if they get like fifty of them, it's like a hundred points, gopher to say, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask one hundred thirty and that's because they don't have they don't they can't guard. The con- Carver say they have to be the better offensive team. And I think they had to place a bad. I think the better bet is that we can play, but often then. Than the best offensive team. That's a long shot. I mean to place a pet. They can't be okay don't get you have to pay something. Big one thing, and I feel like they should just should start checking. But don't don't you mean this scenario when Durant comes back? I'm not to sure that he can come back for the ad be. And I don't think it's, it's, it's a great don't bring him back unless you are a horrible, horrible. Horrible horrible, horrible. I you should save Durand, because like he's going to he has the next two title next season. So I didn't get it's very irresponsible of them to the warriors is the Knicks Indian addition to the Knicks Indian force back. Come on. Let him let him chill like they should do one hundred after St. arrived during the season. Basically other game takes time to twenty four game or whatever. It paid off it paid off. I paid off exactly management. That's the only way for put rivers. And I think one one one game in the regular season. I'm not sure it in check it. But I think they won one game. I think they want Dame when for like forty five I need. Needs strategy here because there's nothing better to do. And the one thing that the blaze is definitely do better in the warriors. Take care of the ball. The warriors are very like, I think I think the way to beat the warriors have them underestimate you. I think the reason they especially when Katie went out the reason they were so good against the rockets and closing the definetely got serious about. It's like okay knowledge, wake up because the warriors biggest enemies their own, like a new like their own sort of laziness and I think with the Portland might have advantage. They might be underdogs or or the my everyone predicting the lose. So I think warriors might play bit carelessly. So if they just do what they normally do, and then let the warriors themselves. I think that's the chats. I don't see that happening. What is being? But I think it'll be really interesting because Katie is on. And that is because I really don't know how I don't know how Houston manage to lose that game without Katie Steph short the on shore for fine. But young Italian, you should not be able to. Okay. All right. All right. I have been negative season. But, but we saw this. Still the stuff. It's like you might disagree with me. But but, but at least two admits debate right, like it's, it's a different. Is much better than any of the kids talk? Like we only talk about people still don't hear me talk about the to you because. Out out out out of the playoff. We don't talk about those seeds don't do them. So and advocate to your point like rockets lose. You can't even Capella shit. You only play you can probably blame us James is on the undock sort superstars do they lose. And those are fine words of wisdom. I don't really like twenty percent field goal presentation that doesn't matter. You lose you lose you at least try award anyway. So timeframes again, current for joining us on this guy's absolute fun talking to you as always listen to your Cokie takes and you're like we really hope that, you know, the first pick of that. Creditors. Six WNBA. Are your daughter? We don't know her name on this podcast. But neyla Leila. He hoped that as the first pick the WNBA by the New York next division or something. New York Knicks. They're mismanage. I wish that much. Fanning kids? He's not crazy. Crazy. Right. 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ARod the Owner, The Masters, NBA Western Conference, Deshaun Watson + Diana Moskovitz & Jasons Mom

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ARod the Owner, The Masters, NBA Western Conference, Deshaun Watson + Diana Moskovitz & Jasons Mom

"We're speaking about just sheer pettiness. I think the sports world we're underrated when it comes to the levels of petty can go. Listen i just. I know i know players that hate each other from something that happened the rookie year. And they're like year eleven based still have like that that animosity. Hello friends had decky. Matsuyama just became the first masters champion from japan. A new owner appears in minnesota edits era with it. A-bomb finalizing a deal along with billionaire. Mark lord purchase till's wolves end the links in the nba. The western conference playoff picture is shaping up to be a world pool of total destruction. Plus defectors diana moskowitz on the shawn watson lawsuits. And my mom. Talk about the masters. I'm joan. i'm renee montgomery. Welcome to take line on saturday. News broke from. Who else asured hausky that a rod. Alex rodriguez and billionaire. Mark lore are finalizing purchase the minnesota timberwolves and your former team the minnesota lynx rene. The price reportedly being in the one point five billion dollar range To my knowledge. Iran has not played professional basketball. Although you often see a pro pro athletes are good at numerous sports not exactly new for players from other leagues to become owners. Though and curie are what what is your reaction to the story. I would just want to say also like it's amazing when you're a billionaire that that just becomes your title is he do. What is mark lord. I don't know he just he's really there. I think the reason that that becomes your title is because the possibilities are endless. When you get that be by your name you can be whatever you want to be in. So now he wants to be An owner you know. He's a former walmart. Ceo of it. That wasn't big enough to was to be something else but to me. I you know. I like when i see athletes getting involved so my first thought. I'm like okay a ride. I wanna see a little j. lo action. I don't know what's going on with them right now but to me i got excited about the idea of j. Lo being a part of the whole ordeal. But i really liked to see now. Athletes taking a spot where they belong in a rod has never played basketball but athletes being at the top of organizations higher management is always a good idea even if his across sport is always a good idea. What make a lot more sense to athletes of the same sport could be in that role. But i think athletes get it across the board about how you should treat an athlete. How organizations should be ran And that's across all stores like that's not for me. I started with football. And i never played football a day in my life but a athlete understand how organizations should be ran. And so. i think there's a crossover there. Here's my thing. What about the billionaires. That could be anything that had no relation to sport but just are buying and collecting things as collector's items. That are you like what. What are your thoughts on like. Just athletes not necessarily usually being in that. I mean the my reaction to this story is what happened to the key g. bid so over the summer and a couple times before that kevin garnett had announced on social media his intention to make a bid for his longtime team the team that he Basically single handedly lifted to the playoffs year after year after year. He tweeted back in july. My passion for the minnesota timberwolves to be a championship team is well known but i have a deeper affection for the city of minneapolis. I once again wanna see minneapolis as the diverse loving community that is and then went on to say that he wanted by the team interesting that his bid was rejected. He has since Said crazy some of these special players that helped build these f. and franchises like a home but can never own them only rent them again. The fuck outta here. It's joke your loss. Keep in mind moving. And we still out here. Looking in situations like this i guess never underrate pettiness and personal animosity. A reason let of like kind of visible barrier to players from from their own sport buying a team within their sport. But that kind of it did surprise me. He's gone after glenn taylor. He's gone after the franchise before although he's always kevin has always talked about the warm feelings. He has for a soda as he calls it. But i i really was surprised. It's like glenn taylor. Here's the greatest player that ever played the franchise again lifted them to the playoffs year. After year if you look at the rosters that he was taking with him. Yeah it was and this is no disrespect for the players that played on those teams. It was not up to the level. That car net was. He was leading one of the leaders in the league. In in rebounds in points to way devastator defense and offense and playing with guys who just were not on his level year after year. Part of that is glenn. Taylor presiding over a dysfunction for decades and now in his final move apparently selling team to a rod and mark lore rather than you know. Kevin garnett who sweat for this team. It's just surprising to me is shocking. And you know glenn taylor. I've had many many many interactions with glenn taylor even twenty sixteen where we wore shirts in the minnesota. The police department walked out on those glenn. Taylor in them stood firm backing us. So i have that thought of glenn taylor but also wonder why they didn't want to sell to a kevin garnett and i'm curious to because this isn't the first time that an athlete has got a group together. Got the runs right in put in a bid. This has happened many many times but a lot of times people are rejected or they go a different route for whatever reason. I always liked to to speculate to wonder if our people making deals on the way out like so maybe a ride and and the billionaire. You know maybe there's something like oh maybe wanna do business with them in the future so let me sell the team to them right relationship or i'm trying to figure out because to me it seems like a no brainer lay what kevin garnett and wants to buy the minnesota timberwolves right. He has the money. It's a no brainer. So the fact that it didn't happen to me has like what are we missing. Let ask you so. There are numerous athletes Recently who have purchased ownership stakes in sports team sports clubs lebron famously. is a co owner of liverpool. Fcc is well as the boston red sox more recently this year james harden a corner of the houston dynamo. And the nwa wwl dash michael jordan. Of course is quite out front as the owner of and up and historical naomi osaka. There's a lot of them and then there is renee montgomery co owner of the dream. What is the role like. Obviously the the athlete is important for not only the money that they're bringing but the cachet and their understanding of the culture and the team and the culture of athletics from your perspective. What's the role of the athlete in any of these ownership deals like what. What is it that the money player mark lauren. This case believes that a rod brings to the table in a situation like this. Yeah understanding of sports and athletes. And and what would make a good franchise so when you get to to the big leagues you have to sell your franchise you know. There's free agency where you want to attract the biggest free ages. Because if you do that obviously you'll have a good team. And so i think that the money people want to align themselves with someone that will like lawrenson some good talent and bringing not even just good talent as far as the sports person is concerned but other celebrities make a high a list. Or you know Minnesota isn't the most flashy place in the world. So you add a rod to that equation. Now it gets a little more flashier like you know. It starts to get more appealing people. Start to wanna play for an a. Rod and you won't hear mark's name a lot in that aspect but a riot brings a listener to the equation. What else athletes bring to the equation is understanding of what it takes to be an athlete. And for whatever reason like that's that's valued high in it's also valued high so when i say it's not valued high enough. We still don't see enough former athletes in these high management roles. We still don't say former athletes especially in the wnba in coaching positions positions of power. That can make decisions but then sometimes you see it but it's a cross sport or someone else where they're like. Okay look a ride. We know you're a sports person many many years professionally maybe not basketball but bring your expertise. That's kind of what it looks to me. shouts the glenn taylor by the way who bought the team for eight million dollars in one thousand nine hundred. Eighty eight million is set to sell the team now and twenty twenty one for one point five billion in minnesota. I mean this is. We've talked in recent episodes about small market for big market It's just an incredible appreciation in value for a team. That has you know frankly not been good listened to links links aside the links have one champion say won multiple championships there. The successful franchise deal rules. Listed have not have struggled even when they had kevin garnett you know. They went to the western conference finals. Of course famously. One time but then had eight street first round playoff exit. It is just an incredible appreciation in value for this team and for nba teams in general over the last several years and decades. It's kind of. It's it's just really mind boggling that it's now one point five billion dollars. They're going to pay for this team and you know what. I'm glad you brought that up because your first thought when you hear the one point five billion it's not the minnesota lynx. We know that the big ticket that they're paying for is the minnesota tim rules. It also brings in another issue with these these. I don't want to call it a throw in deal. Because i i hope that a rod a mark will appreciate that they have a gym in minnesota leagues. Like they have titles. In ten years they have a top franchise dynasty. That not only wins on the court but they excel off the court and how they are presented as an organization so sometimes it always makes me nervous when you have this big deal. That's happening and then you have some things that might be thrown in on the deal. So i hope that a them really realize yes. I understand that you know. A big portion of the money is to be buying the minnesota timberwolves but they got they got a steal whatever they had to pay for the the minnesota lynx. It's a steal because that is one of the top franchises in the wnba. An has the hardware to go with. It's always i just really. I think a rod gets it. So i hope he because i with all the talk of the deal is talking about the same thing. You're talking about woo. What point five billion for the minnesota timberwolves will yeah links are in on that deal as well. Yeah i mean the other thing is expansion may or may not happen in either league right in the wnba the nba. It's a remote possibility. However all of which is to say. I hope that athletes specifically the athletes who play for the teams are able to hook onto ownership groups that will allow them to participate more directly in the success of franchise especially if they help build that success. You know. i think that that's what i yeah like. I don't understand why this isn't the natural progression. i just would. I would hope that in the future. That people i mean who would take better care of the brand of the minnesota timberwolves than a kevin garnett who gave his blood sweat and tears to it as a player believes in the brand wanted to be a part of the brand so i just hope that people start to value that a lot more when we talk about work experience qualifications. People need to make that. We don't just look at athletes as a spokesperson that can run and jump in athletic entertain but also a business person. I know that that gets overlooked. But i'm not the only person that's been a professional athlete. That can do business. There's plenty of us out there but people need to value at different. I don't think that people value correctly. And other thing that i again just returned to this but the another thing that really surprised me about like the decision to go with a rod and mark laura is in the past. Mr taylor has run the team both teams but it particularly the timber wolves in a way that from my perspective overvalues direct minnesota connections flip. Saunders right university of minnesota ryan saunders. Flip saunders son who later went on to coach flip. Saunders longtime coach of the of the timber wolves. He always seems to select people with direct minnesota ties. Now here's kevin garnett. Direct minnesota tie greatest timber wolves ever again and rejected his his bid. Now garnett has gone after the team in different ways he he said Once after a trade from a from the timber wolves to the nets in two thousand fifteen. I always have a special place for the city of minneapolis and the state of minnesota my heart. But i don't do business with stakes. I don't do business with snake motherfuckers. I try not to do business with snakes. Are snake like okay. Tell how you really feel now. I guess like. I guess it is perhaps fair to wonder if this comments such as he's Might have dampened the his chances of acquiring the team in the future but once again never discount the influence of personal animosity whenever a business deal or some political deal happens in a way. That is seems to be illogical. Yeah i agree and one more thing. When we're speaking about just sheer pettiness. I think the sports world were underrated when it comes to the levels of petty can go. Listen i just. I know i know players that hate each other from something that happened there rookie year. And they're like year eleven. They still have like that. That animosity i just i think that that is you know you hear it in hollywood all you'll get blackballed and blacklisted. And you hear it all the time but man. It really had the sports world is so small. The coaches if you get fired one place. They're going to be a coach somewhere else. You got bad blood. They are now. You can't go to this city. I think at the sports world is underrated so to that point. I didn't necessarily know that k. G. set all of that about not doing business with snakes but now that you said that i think that there is a direct correlation between because to me i was just asking i'm like am i missing something here. This seems like a home run no brainer about the fans that would get behind it the city how they would give it but there we go again there are. There's that p. word t that i didn't you gotta know. The full story carried a grudge like from from amateur basketball. All the way to all the way to the pros like but if you want to you could listen. I can tell you how much of a grudge. i haven't carried you know sometimes when players get traded. It's like a sour taste in their mouth in different things that nature I got traded in connecticut and the gm that was in connecticut is now our gm here in atlanta. And i signed with this team a three year. Deal to come play here. So i'm one of those like yeh don't care let's keep it pushing 'cause i don't really care about enough to hold onto it like if somebody says something to my my snooker booker. Which is my mom fiancee. Somebody's family okay. I probably showed it with me for a really long time. But if it's about me. Like i can never hold a grudge when it comes to me. Well i guess it just a function of As you said how small this world is and how few spots there are within it now and let me just. I'm talking about the dream. But i had to bring up. Even though i'm hawks all day okay lately let me just say. I'm hawks all day long. But we gonna talk a little bit about this western conference nuggets one on an eight game win streak recently. Although the celtics broke that streak the lakers though a lot of people were saying the lakers are dunzo. Everything is done lebron. Ad out as you could imagine people would assume that but the lakers about that action when they beat the nets the other night the jazz still have the best record in the league but the sons are looking hot as we would assume chris paul team with talent will but how do you see the west playing out. Because it's crazy right now lender to me so like the lakers have. It's been shaky since lebron has been out. Ad also out and yet their defense has remained very stout best defensive team in the league they are scrappy. They come at you all the time and they never stopped playing. And now you've got the reinforcements coming right. You can see you know the daylight is coming. Eighties coming lebron is coming. And so he's sitting out tweet a cryptic message letting us know as on all way and so lakers are sitting at. You know the the five right now. So be the nuggets lakers. And that is. That's just a bloodbath. Let me go through this. So the jazz are right now. Sitting atop the conference followed by the phoenix suns The clippers nuggets. Were on an eight game winning streak until they recently went colin's second half and lost to the celtics in shocking display. The lakers who nobody wants to play at any spot anywhere in the playoffs and the trail blazers absolutely dangerous. now we get into the playoff area. Dallas mavericks at seven grizzlies at eight spurs at nine and golden state warriors at ten. None of these teams down here at the plan. Would i wanna play on the utah jazz. No i don't want to steph curry. And the like i don't care go to state is ten fifteen twenty five. Imagine steph curry in the playoffs. So the jazz are again by the advanced metrics. They are like a historically good team. They're averaging fifty points a game on threes which is super important for them. Because the way they're structured and congratulations to utah jazz on a historic season. You may have to play steph curry and the golden state warriors. Congratulations like that could happen. Yes the warriors have gone through losing streak of their own. James wiseman Probably done for the season. Now with meniscus tear. I don't wanna see steph curry in the first round under any circumstances at all ever none. And like i just i'm gonna ask you so that i'm not saying but do we. Do we believe the utah jazz. And what i mean by. That is leagues. So jason like do because first of all this is i. I always get scared of teams who to a lot of their points. Come from shooting. In an i know and and just so people i understand the nba metrics and analytics. But we've seen what happened to the houston rockets if you go cold if you don't make shots when it matters when a lot of your points i mean we're talking fifty points per game if fifty points alone or from the three point line to me. That's scary like i need reassurance. That if we're not making shots where still a highly effective team. Do we believe the jazz. I like in the playoffs would you are they going to the bracket they're the number one seed. Are you going to put them to the end of your like like. How's that things. I believe that they are a very very good team. And i believe that they are a contender. I don't believe that in many of these matchups they would have. Let's say a so jazz. Let's say it's jazz warriors first round. They don't have the best player on the floor in that series. Okay right jazz dallas. I don't think the best player on the floor in that series and that is kind of the issue for them listen. I think that they play a very particular style. Donovan mitchell. here's this you saw. What happened was shack. Said i mean. I think donovan mitchell is really good. I think the chemistry that he has with gobert is incredibly important. I think they're getting great shooting and contributions from bogdonovich Royce o.'neil has done like yeoman's work. Joe ingles is solid jordan clarkson arguably the best player in the league. Best bench scoring league found his niche finally in the nba. I just think that like for one. They play a very particular defensive style that does not really allow them to switch. Okay so what happens when they start playing these teams that are going to demand that they switch. That's gonna be interesting. Let's see what happens there. And then i think too. You know Their second best player rudy gobert. Someone say their first their most important player some would say you just can't count on him offensively at all particularly down the stretch like. That's not where you're getting your scoring. it's gonna be donovan. Mitchell right and and hopefully you get contributions from konin leave and bogdanovich and others but to your point. Let's say they go dry okay. Which happens in the playoffs. Because that's what happens. They'll take issue forty three threes game. We'll take oil and they shoot twenty and teams know that and they will work to take away those threes. Okay go bare. You're not going to be. They're not throwing to you right in the last five minutes of a close game donovan mitchell. What you. that's what happens at that point. It's donovan mitchell. Game and ken key can he be the guy that that winds them games at that point. I think he can but i also think it's a question mark and i also think that part of this perception is the fact that one it's utah and we've never really seen them you know it's been nine hundred ninety eight since they were like a real contender for the finals. And so a part of this is we haven't seen it and then a part of his is like there until like mitchell is untested. I think as that guy still a little bit untested. So it's a little bit we haven't seen it. All of which is to say is. I don't fully believe in. I don't because listen to lebron ad it's like that's a finals appearance. Every time right so that's why i asked it because even take a number four team of the nuggets. I mean they have a jamal. Murray aaron gordon nikolai. Yokich like they have will barton. Michael puerto they have firepower. And so yeah. I think the real question. That's why it's like the utah. Jazz have shown us nothing but that we should believe it but assist that everyone. I mean you win twenty straight home games like we should it but i understand that. Not all of us. We all all necessarily believe it. So it's going to be interesting though teams like that is going to be interesting about the sun's first of all i'm really happy for suns fans. It has been a really rough few years here in the post. Nash years devon booker. Obviously one of the brightest lights young stars and is so young and so good and now with chris. Paul adding that really veteran. I can get to my spot. I know how to call basketball game and how to dictate flow at any time. Kind of expertise now. The sons of surging thirty seven fifteen there eighteen and six against Against teams with winning records which is best in the nba now. They had the easiest schedule in the nba through week. Fifteen but like they're a good team and they're sitting at number two which would have them play. Maybe doubtless and yet again here you go again. It's another bloodbath. Here we ask you. Let's say it's sons. Dallas on that matchup are the sons more likely to get to the western conference finals or lose in the first round. They're likely to get there. I believe the sun's can beat a dallas mavericks team. I mean honestly. We played a suns team and with us being. When i say we told you guys at the top of this. I'm all hawks all the time. But when we played phoenix we lost to them. One seventeen the one ten. And i believe that that was a very winnable game like i know that players like i know all players are probably all yet will. Phoenix didn't shoot well but we execute our scouting report. And i felt like we could have beaten them so having said that still. I think there are beatable team. But i think that they like a team like dallas. I think they match up better than a team. Get like i. You know honestly. I think that they're one of the teams to their scarier to meet in utah. Jazz offered by mistake. Tell me why because you got first of all. You got chris. Paul who knows and a lot of people are going to able. Does he really know how to win. If he's never one yes. He knows what winning looks like. he's as most people talk about. He's probably one of the best leaders in the nba. So whenever you have a guy like that your foxhole you're already one up. Then you gotta devon booker who everyone. for years. And years and years. I've talked about. How phoenix suns have been under achievers. Like man all that talent over. Why can't they win in so he hears that he wants to be a part of. I think they just have. They have the weapons. Like you know just when you look at their roster you know they have the right weapons that when you mash up against whoever you say oh i could see how they compete. Some teams i. Just don't i don't believe it. And so the sons. Yeah i think that like. I think that day them as well as as the clips and the lakers. I mean. They're just not teams. You want to see. I believe portland. But i also believe that portland doesn't have enough firepower so i think that like at a certain point is too much on dame too much on. Cbs agree with you clippers. Really interesting to me. Because it's like. I feel like they're just kind of like sneaking under the radar there's been so there's like So much talk about the jazz. Obviously as long as lebron james is in the nba. He will be the headline of almost every story right. so like. What's going out the lakers. Big story but the clippers thirty seven and eighteen. Okay paul george is struggling a little bit. But they're putting it together. I don't know they've got a ton of experience guys. Patrick beverley is will clamp you down and maybe like Singer your ankle quite leonard. But he's out for a month. He's out for a month with a broken back. Leonard obviously one of the best two players in legitimately in history. Paul george as well And they have a bacha now that it gives them a a kind of like a different look on the inside of more veteran look Knows what he can do. Physical noses spots can hit that mid range jumper and yet and yet thirty seven and eighteen. Th i ask you a question that you asked me about the utah jazz. You believe in the l. gophers ru. I believe that a team with a combined. Seven hundred and forty eight playoff games. I have to believe them now. Do i believe that same team. Do i believe that that same team can stay healthy that i don't know. I think that a healthy clippers team and obviously we can say this about everyone. But the clippers. Just i mean even right now patrick beverley heat struggles to stay healthy but anyway that plays that all out you typically. They might get hurt. Paul george just heard a toe kyi we know he's been mr load management for a lot of years of an issue. So yeah i just for. I believe a fully loaded clippers team. I believe that they got embarrassed last year when they got knocked out and i think that that will feel them this year and i think they had the talent level and not think they have the wherewithal to do it. But you know. Leonard has done it with the spurs and then went to the raptors led them to do it and then it was like out piece so i i mean i believe unquestionably have the talent right unquestionably experience for me. It's always like what's the other shoe. What's what is the weird thing that's going to happen when they Lost after being up three one in the playoffs last year it was like it felt like something was was missing. Something was wrong. Something chemistry was something whether it's the relationship to each other in them of course Numerous stories came out since then about problems in the locker room and star treatment of qui- in relation to the rest of the team wasn't practicing. He said i pulled an alan iverson. He said listen. I'm gonna give you these buckets. The game i'm gonna give liz low management and you're going to take it. That's what happened just pays people didn't know but they've cleared up since then. I think. Listen to charles. Barkley said last week quote. I've been poor. I've been rich. I've been fat of bid skinny. I've been old. I've been in the hall of fame and one thing. I can always tell you the clippers of always sucked. That is not exactly. That's not exactly true. The clippers have had moments of of relevance. Irrelevant right now. But i think it is. It does speak to the fact that the clippers have always found a way to somehow disappoint say to make it to the finals win the finals. Just disappoint at number four. We have the nuggets thirty four nine hundred twelve and three in their last game. They won In the last fifteen games the nuggets one eight in a row before losing to the celtics over the weekend. Yeah yokich is gonna win. The mvp at this point you know. Is the numbers insane. Four march twenty seven. Eleven eight in that will call it eight and a half fifty eight percent field goal percentage. And it's like man. Aaron gordon and yokich together or a plus thirty two it. Aaron gordon has discovered the thing that jamal murray that other nuggets players have discovered which is if i just cut to the basket. This guy is gonna hit me with a pass. I'm gonna. I'm gonna score. And its warner was the perfect addition to this team. Because the way aaron gordon played already like you knew when you added him to that motion offense that the nuggets. You got you got. The joker that he's dropping dimes left in right. I mean he's clearly he's he's a great passer for any position but when you talk big men obviously. He's at the top of the list for a lot of the list. He's top five. So when you add a great cutter like aaron gordon who can also shoot played in that houston rockets that that that lay upper three dau. You knew it was going to be just gasoline already onto a team. That was on fire. So i mean yeah and then you look at like. I believe a lot of teams. Let me just say that. I believe a lot of teams but when you talk about. The number five lakers team. 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Ultimately this response to Similar events that have happened around the country and in particular events that have happened within the state of minnesota in minneapolis in particular. Obviously a tragic circumstance. The police chief in brooklyn center made a statement earlier today that the officer who fired the shot thought she was pulling her teaser. Which just doesn't ring true to me like listen. I don't know but it seems to me that a taser which weighs probably like eight or nine ounces and a gun which i don't know probably weighs two pounds when it's fully loaded Would feel pretty different if you're pulling them out That's on top of the fact that the teaser is usually on the weak side. They have that on the other side and then and the gun is on the right side. You know the dominant hand side and that the trigger mechanisms are completely different than tasers. Yellow and bright yellow looks like laser gun. A all of this is just immensely tragic and it feels like well here. We go again. We're doing this again in. I want people to understand. Yes mistakes happen but incompetence when a life is lost. I don't know if that's acceptable like that's that. So i know that people are probably like you know because i've seen the argument. Will she tried to yell tasers three times and then proceeded to fire a single bullet. That's incompetent like i don't know how you do that. You just listed off a gang of reasons why there's differences in ways. There's differences in the feel. Wish side is on if a police officer is terrified. When they're doing their job to the point to where they can't decipher. Am i holding a taser. Or am i holding a gun. There is a problem there. There is something wrong is unacceptable. You can't be a police officer. If when in times of crisis or when the situation is heightened you can't think clearly then you're not prepared well enough. You're not ready to be a police officer. So i can't understand these people i all well. It was an accident. They released the bodycam footage as if that's going to be almost justifying what happened like if that was supposed to help us understand better. I'm still confused. Somebody lost their their live. Dante lost his life over that a mistake in so you have to pose the question of people that don't get it if you lost family member over a mistake. It doesn't make the loss any better. I mean even if it was even the get you know reprimanded even the cops get convicted. In any of the circumstances still doesn't make the blow to the family better but to tell a family that's grieving all is just a mistake. She thought it was a taser. Knows actually a gun loaded. And she shot a bullet. I just to me. it's no so. I'm glad that the sports leagues not only postponed their games but also sent their sympathies and condolences to the family of dante right because a lot of times when we talk about these police shootings and we talk about these different scenarios. We almost dehumanize the person because it's like oh another name the list dante right dante right dante right had family friends life in so we have to make sure whenever we're breaking down. These police mistakes that we don't forget to say the names of victims. Because that's what's the problem is. That's the problem. People are losing their lives over apparent. Mistake i keep thinking about okay. Let's for a second pretend that this was a mistake. I would be interested to know what the statistics are the other way. How many times. It's an officer. Pull their taser when they mean to pull their gun. If a mistake only happens one way every time then there's deeper issues at play here right. Does it ever happen the other way the officer ever accidentally pull the teaser and like whoops pulled out my taser in this in this dangerous situation i had my taser gun. I would be really fascinated to know how often that happens. Because i gotta tell you like. This was the same defense that johann necessarily used in the shooting of oscar grant in two thousand nine thought. It was teaser. Reach for the taylor ended up shooting roster grant dead. How often does it happen the other way. Why does it only seem to happen this way very interesting to me and just a distant kinda cap it off. We're entering the third week guests of the police officer. Who killed george. Floyd were requiring the third week of his trial. So when you take that into account we're in a trial where we watched demanded murdered while we're watching another one game. Murdered is not a good look. I'm just going to say it's just not a good look in his various there's a level of ingrained in authority. That is just kind of taken as the correct mode of operation. For instance. when we're all of a sudden we're interrogating whether this officer made an honest mistake. And yes you yell. Taser where derek chauvin is going to say that drugs And and pre existing medical conditions played a role in and it wasn't the fact that he kneeled on on this man's back for almost ten minutes at the fact that you can't just believe the things that you see they have to. We are most like programmed to has to take every story that the police give us and believe it. It's just it shouldn't be the way things are. We have enough evidence. That sounds that police. Don't tell the truth and a lot of situations they are. Don't use force in a way. That's responsible they kill people and that's only see camera. Phones are the worst thing to happen to policing because we see it. Now we see you now we see it now and again unaccepted anyone who's listening to this and is thinking what can i do. Is there anything that can be done. the minnesota freedom fund is just one organization that fights police in racial injustice on the ground in minnesota on the local level. You can find out more at minnesota freedom fund dot org joining us. Now is the defectors. Diana moskowitz is investigations editor for defector media She's here to talk to us about the shawn watson lawsuits for those of you. Who may not be aware of the past several weeks a growing number of women now. A total of twenty two have filed suit against houston. Texans quarterback deshaun watson over sexual misconduct which occurred during massage appointments according to their statements. He has denied all allegations but has since lost. Endorsement deals and is in the middle of china Force his way out of the houston texans. They're several things we want to get to in this story. And we've brought in diana to talk about it diane. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me last friday. Some news came out of the court hearings Could you just kind of update us about the latest Where the story started and where it is now. Yes so it started with one lawsuit. It was filed on just a couple of weeks ago actually in harris county in texas. A woman said that she had been hired by shawn watson to provide massage therapy for him and that during the massage which i always worth emphasizing. This is her work right. she's she's working. He insisted on being completely nude and among other inappropriate behavior Try touching her with his penis and then what followed was for lack of a better way to put a flurry of lawsuits. After that i just felt like every day there was another lawsuit another lawsuit and a lot of these lawsuits are women coming forward. Basically all saying they had similar experiences with watson on some more serious are two women say they were forced to provide oral sex in some cases he definitely did force them to touches pitas and others. It was just he was trying to get them to touch it One woman says she felt like he was forcing her to touch his anus on. Broadly again all saying he reaches out there on social media. They've never worked with him before he wants to set up a massage. He is very clear about this wind to be a place where it's very private where people might not even see them coming or going He also that is just on only covering his groin area with a towel. Which sometimes he doesn't even include that he'll get rid of very quickly or he'll get rid of it somehow dirt some white during the visit saying he's something like too hot Again then this is where the assault happens. And then. I also think it's worth noting in several cases and the women have provided screenshots. They are of messages. That got from watson after words where he's saying you know. Hey i'm sorry you know there And miscommunication or or things were confusing. Which davey like implies a. He knew his behavior was inappropriate Where twenty two right now. There are five women according to tony busby whose representing the twenty two. He said five did approach him but they felt like there was not enough to file a civil suit in those cases There's a twenty-third woman. Who is not represented by busby. She has retained a different attorney. Who gave a very lengthy interview to sports. Illustrated's jedi renta's coming forward to support these women Intelligent various more story to watch the twenty two lawsuits. She has not filed yet but it is possible so we talked about the the twenty two women. The shawn watson camp brought another eighteen women to support him in and basically saying that they've given him a massage and that everything was normal now to me that seems like a lot of women. Just the sheer mouse seems like a lot. Do you think that helped or hurt his k. I feel like this is one of those cases where people can unfortunately really try to see what they want to see. So i know there are people who saw the. At thought okay. Let's do some math twenty. Two plus the woman who spoke sports illustrated twenty three plus eighteen. Whoa that is seeing a lot of massage therapists and is that normal for anyone let alone a pro athlete whose body is so key to their job to just be constantly finding new massage therapist. Massage therapist there are other people who see those eighteen women amigo. Oh my god well that that proves he didn't do it because he was nice to them than he must be nice to everybody on of of course i would push back and say that. That's not the case. How you are with one person is very individual. You can be nice to someone horrible to the next person right but to me you i saw. That is watson's defense team doing their job. Which is defending him putting that out there knowing the people who want to believe dish on are just good a latch onto that you know but these eighteen with these eighteen again. My counter is that doesn't really disprove with the other. Women are saying to show. He didn't do it with everybody. Part of that people being able to see what they wanna see Has been the very kind of like sports blinkered angle which is oh Galaxy brain. The texans did this in order to stymie disown from from leaving the team. I first of all do you. do you feel that. There's anything to that. No i i always had to ask. I don't know everything i have. I could -bility is unfortunately And who knows how. These court cases will play out there still so much down the line but i keep thinking about everything that came out about the texans. During this football season and disorganized feels like a really weak be but what a mess authorization they are deriving away talent at an epic rate for any league where you were just wondering is there. Anyone wants to play for this team. You an to them that they are so organized that they could somehow create this conspiracy to either keep this down until desha had anger them so much or that is cooked this all. I just keep coming back to. I think these guys are that organized. I think you're that smart. There's been unfortunately on a number of cases of like this sexual misconduct cases around pro athletes. Nfl athletes and the thing. That i keep thinking in particular to this case you know is if i was a victim and i wanted justice. I wanted my story heard. I would look at everything that happens. When these cases arise which is conversations that are never centered around the victim. It's all these. it's this serves. The interest of the team or such such is looking for money or look at all these people that this didn't happen to and i would honestly think is all of this worth it. That's the thing that i keep. It just must be so painful to be like well. Is this what. I want to go through all of this where people are going to have conversations. That aren't even about the case. It's about the baggage that are brought to the case and all the other cases that have happened that are similar in the past. And and that's on top of the fact that you know standard operating procedure for any defense in. This is going to be a sully. The accusers in some kind of way character assassination. so basically is kind of like he's asking. How difficult is it for these women to almost come forward knowing that they're going against a famous person. Somebody's favorite athlete. And then knowing that there's going to be that character assassination that almost happens inevitably because of those things. It's we've always seen it. In this case one of two women have come forward with their names already and one of them did so like at at a press conference. You see her face. She read a statement. She gave her name ashley. Sali's and within twenty four hours maybe forty eight but you know it was really fast She started getting death threats. She started getting rape threats on her instagram account. And she has A personal website. 'cause get massage. Therapy is our business. Of course she has a website where she wants you to get in contact whether row people are using the contact before to tell her to die. While you know well that's people are sick. People are sick like descend rape threats to a rape victim. That's and that's another level. And i want fans to understand. That's not being a fan like that's that's just not being a fan if you're a fan of the texans. Doing that is not showing that you're a fan of the texas. If you're a fan of the shawn watson during that just doesn't that's wild like it's imagine being a victim to to i keep thinking what amount of money even is worth this amount of toxicity and attention and like character assassination. It's just I have a lot of respect for anybody that comes forward. Yeah and i thank rene for saying that by the way because i think that there are people who think because i'm a fan of deshaun watson i'm the texas i defend that yes ed's look. I started as a sports fan too. But that's where the line of fandom for me ends right and look we're not saying because a lot of people we're not saying he's he's guilty until proven innocent. I'm just saying you showing your support by attacking victim is never being fan and that is never a part of sports like so for 'cause you always have to. There's always going to be people on the other side. We're not saying that he's already guilty. We're not saying that. I'm saying if you think that you're being a fan by supporting him by attacking someone else like. That's that on it. That just is not it at all. Do you think that. Do you think that the kind of cultural awareness around these kind of cases particularly within football has changed at all like if rothlisberger happened if his to sexual assault cases happened in twenty twenty one. Are they treated differently than they were treated. Then i feel like they are and they are You know. I it just see so many people talking about the rothlisberger case because agro but a pittsburgh steelers home so i remember that one very very clearly and i tell the story. Sometimes i remember having this conversation with my dad. 'cause that's that's what we talk about. We talk about the steelers and just say have to get rid of them. They have to get rid of. This is unacceptable and my dad saying no. They won't because his job is to for ball games. Do you know how hard it is to get a quarterback at that level am. Dad was right now. He was totally proven right. And so i think that at the time that has passed especially between that. Now metoo happened. I think there is more awareness and being better conversations. I'm having this conversation. Both of you on this podcast. Like which not a conversation. I could have them to having you know. Four or five six years ago But at the same time. I still hear that voice in my head saying you know. He is in this case. Now shawn watson missile. He's an elite quarterback. And do you know how hard it is to find a quarterback. Who's that good at that level you know and and so i think some has changed for sure but i i would never say that you know. This is a big a groundswell rethinking of our of our national now. You're you're absolutely right. Sports vines a way to to use an athlete until they. They are a good athlete anymore or they can't use them anymore. So that's a that's a whole nother topic for a whole nother story. Diana thank you. Thank you thank. You don't take line of brought to you by monk back. Healthy snacks have a bad reputation. Don't they though. And let's be honest. Most don't taste very good. They don't fill you up and they certainly don't satisfy your cravings. That's why this episode is sponsored by monk. 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Take on to save twenty percent and we thank them for sponsoring the podcast hydrant where water meets wellness. The masters was this past megan. And i know if you're anything like me. You're a huge fan. Is that right rene. Listen neither of us are fans. But i know i have a very big golf in my life. My mom so my mom is a immigrant for the philippines. This country forty something. Years is a huge golf. Not and my dad. We're both like golf freaks. And i think it's important to also say this. She considers tiger woods legitimately to be her son to be her firstborn son. She relates everything in golf through the lens of tiger woods. I spoke to this weekend Right as the final round started and after decky matt's yama had clinched. His masters win becoming the first japanese player ever to win. The masters here are some clips of our conversation. So it's sunday morning teeing off. He's eleven under out. Tell me your thoughts on the masters. So far i taught investment master. Okay he's good. He prayed on Drama is tweeted good. I remember him saying always Okay knocking bothers team. But among under i m for sunder the end. The don't forty like plan. Unlike him his very consistent remember he run he was. He won the second place when along the master and twenty employees nineteen. So he's been playing very very good pass. Y'all i came. he's some. He lost his size His saif just like pie me. What happened to what is he was actually on the olympic but then he had a car accident our head on collision and a piece of glass. went into his eyes. Saw by wow at anybody. You're disappointed in. yeah hoop off. Okay a justin thomas. But he's playing but he's not on the lead and of course johnson justice justin our dustin dustin. I can't believe they did. He did make it. Dustin johnson and rocus gonna make it because he just surgery. Yeah you know what about Are you there yeah. Your connections is connection is bad high. The connection is bad for some reason. Hold on your your good friend. Rory completely off the map my god raleigh justin dusting also get it. I don't know what happened today. I up brooke is not gonna make like. I said you're not her to slack leg. And then he had surgery on the right leg and he only had watt less than a month proxies The monsters forget it. So you're pulling present. you're pulling for zander. Yes yes yes that dog and think he's so you're not moved by. You're not moved by matsuyama with this. Would mean for the japanese people. A billion dollars in potential earnings over the course of his career is like you. He's on his good and he's he's consistent but i'm for the underdog. Okay okay all. I mean will biker. Matsuyama boost japan's first masters champion. Matsuyama has a clinched. It zanu mehta zander. Made a great push at the end there but what happened swimming for the poi- the call that rav with spallina water and that's why tiger one okay is. I think it's a fourteen right than the fourteen. Yeah okay yeah okay and it just roll. Roll to the water so upset. I'm so screaming. Because i thought he had he had a chance because he's one it's only one festive different to to go and he anna is thought to spine but But anyway i mean we'll We'll jumped him. Will with alatorre. Tourists jumped in. Yeah so glad. You want to see the background when out of the japan Talking in japanese blah blah blah blah blah. When you know. It's so funny. But i'm so glad i congratulate you on. My facebook is time for him to win. You don't wanna zander. A what is it. You like about him you like that. He's blind in one eye. At because like me i you know what i mean and any i read his sorry okay. His father is very very strict. You know what i mean. And then when he lost that These is side in one is You know was on olympian You know candidate but then he. He didn't know what he wants to be. And then he just saw. I think he i think he was watching. Or something dig- or something and then he's gonna let me try and then that's what is and then his father is he coach swing coach. Well the of his major his life. That's all he he wants to is major. You know like fiver tiger you've picked has just on a major and at rory mentioned that when he went to bishop the tiger he sold tank and he said five. Just think about the is all about the four majors. Staw a long said think about that. The effect for the major so the pta. Any truth and see that it's made is so important for him. Do you have any any dreams about tiger lately. Nah nah be something. I think you know. How frightening is tiger. Okay no houses back here with a car accident and probably not good. Yeah and you know. I was reading an article that he will need more straight career on that right knee the right leg so i get it over. He's just gonna be coaching. I think that's the next to me. That's the next step for him. Yeah yeah in a key. He has his functions that she some you know. His legend living in our is on vacation. He i mean look comedy kids million of kids but he sent to school and they're all most of them are like the doctors lawyer than augie. League school can also check the stats on that. I'm not we into check that out. I'm not sure if that's true. But i but yes i love your mom. Let me just start out by saying. I love your mom because she like. She knows what she's talking about what it costs you just i just here. Because she's like yeah he just had surgery he's not gonna make it but like i. I love this because my mom is the same. When it comes to basketball is fort so not not golf. So i love hearing someone else's mom so invested in your like mom your connections such an expert on the golf but the phones. The phones that degree. Let me tell you the great. Do you hear the disappointment in her voice when i asked her if she had had any dreams about tiger lately and she said no amazing mom. Thank you for being our official golf correspondent. We go back to her for the us open. Now's the time for our buzzer beaters topics that we wanted to talk about. We didn't have enough time to do it. Renee okay so for my buzzer beater. The wnba draft is this thursday. And since i've been able to be a co slash vice president. I've been in the meetings talking to the coaching staff. We have the number three pick. And i want to build excitement for so i want you to know that who were taking for the number three pick is. Wow that is wild. That is a really shocking. When but also agree pick. I believe it man. People are gonna be so excited when they hear this my hi. I'm hi what you got up though. What do you have for. Your computer is listen. I know you didn't want to say it. Okay because you rep atlanta and the hawks so much already this podcast okay. But you know it leads sportscenter all weekend. All sunday miles. Bridges of the hornets miles. Bridges of the hornets came in and he tomahawks a an unbelievable dunk. Down on your hawks. Now it's been talked about as atop the season blah blah blah and yet and yet hawks win the game and this is a thing that has bothered me. Ever since. Scottie pippen dongguan patrick ewing on the break in one thousand nine hundred ninety four and i see every time that clip comes up. It's like oh. My god scotty killed a you. We won that series. Knicks won the series won the game. Okay pay attention. listen. I have a take on that cappella. God put on a poster in that happens. Clinton cappella played fits. You can't be defensive player of the year without playing defense clean. Cappella plays defense every single play. A lot of people. Don't even play defense anymore. People may be shocked to hear this but people don't want be posters so they see somebody coming through the lane they make business decisions about the way. 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Nuggets Hold On, Bulls Hire Billy, Next Season's Start Date

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Nuggets Hold On, Bulls Hire Billy, Next Season's Start Date

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Get a bit of the ripple dishes in the. U.. Sixty. were in welcome to the no dungs podcast on the athletic network. It's Wednesday September. Twenty third GE skeets and joining us live as always smells I got a few stray hairs in my face just went for a jog. We call them dudas like our old makeup artist back show. We got the bearded one. Kirby. We've got the international man of mystery taking it to the Max Leila's Allah gentlemen. I. Last. But at least making this magic happen jd hello there is, and here we are showed up everyone joining us live right now on you to also to everybody listening or watching the podcasts a little bit later in the day, keep your questions and your comments coming for our next step in podcast email dunks at the athletic dot Com tweet at no dunk zinc. We dropped a banger yesterday I. Got a Noli did the passport ever arrive? WHAT'S THE UPDATE? Ending. Don't do. Yeah. All right. But I I got into a bit of a heated live chat conversation yesterday we. Automated bought. It was someone from the Visa Visa Department and man it got a little bit wild day yesterday. So we'll see in the end I'm I'm fingers crossed. I'm actually going see my possible tonight. Okay. Excellent. Hopefully, it arrives during the show here but yesterday's speech step in podcast. You guys sent some great questions, some NBA One. Some non MBA ones. Yes Li took us on a fifteen minute a story time. Passport that he sent off and his waiting for he was live checking his. Mail packages updates on the air here it was exhilarating stuff. tastic. What Tsn Puns here, Canadian? Me Howling. Vic Roader plant. So go check it out there. We have some laughs as we always do when we step on the beach. Okay. We got the UP DOWN REPORT TODAY WE'RE GONNA get trey curb Chicago Bulls who made a move and we're GonNa Talk expensive basketball cars a lot of fun. We'll start with the game as we do here on no dunks game three of the Western Conference finals. Jamal Murray might be a superstar trae might be a superstar already and the nuggets hang to win games three cut the Lakers lead to two one in the West finals before we get to leave I. Congratulations guys to Paul Millsap. Versus will broad. Yes. Paul he was all for ten against Lebron in the playoffs had never won but finally got his first w but league, where do you want to start with this game nuggets getting obviously a huge win here in game three Oh, it would've been awful if Paul millsap was still on Oh couldn't hadn't beaten Lebron this morning because it was a twenty point game with ten minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Now, you knew that the Lakers are going to have a run in them but it got way too close for the nuggets I absolutely froze on the big stage and completely forgot what they were doing it on the court now credit to the lake defense largely Rajon Rondo who created a Lot of stairs and turn those into transition dunks for the Lakers. But all of a sudden, it looked like nuggets we're going to suffer just a crushing defeat after what was heading towards a fairly impressive victory. Again, we didn't think it was going to be a blow out, but the nuggets went from that situation to being like Oh my God. They're going to blow this and basically the series would be done, and then Jamal Myra was like hang on. I'm awesome I'm a superstar I know how to close games and he did that with some incredible play getting his teammates involved. But then of course, hitting two months to three point is really that took the life out of the like.and the last. Two minutes but oh, my God what a quarter that fourth one was because that Jemaah transition. Put them up twenty and you could sort of see the nuggets on the sidelines. All right. We got this one because we've got this. Let's just not do anything crazy, and then all of a sudden Lebron hits a three. Davis gets a three point play and then Rajon Rondo just gets up in everyone's face the nuggets forgot to shoot. They didn't know how possible and you can just see they were like they I, I completely froze. But they recovered just in time to keep the series alive and and and get the win but men, it was It was a tense moments there fool the Denver Nuggets, but credit to them because I think the fact that they have come back from. So many deficits in the playoffs that they kind of remembered like Oh we have to actually close game out let's get drama Mari the, ball and Jamal Mary I mean he took over and hit hit those big shots and again founding teammates for supplies and It was. It was one of those who we got that one in. The Denver Nuggets but what a great guy what a great end and Now the nuggets I'm not sure if this is more just one of those like a, we didn't get swept wins or if it's like. We're back in this series hold on the nuggets have arguably played the Lakers last two games right chunks of it they have. To One, let's not forget that and the Lakers right where they want. Again to two or three one after the next game. This was a must win huge performance by the nuggets. But like you're saying that fourth quarter L. A. Scary Bet they'll get eighteen point lead was gone in three seconds. They just had no idea. Once the zone came out, we haven't seen the Lakers play a whole bunch zone, but it certainly through the nuggets off and then Rondo had a couple of steals and he kind of got away with getting a little Hansie for the next guy steals but once the aggression picked up for the Lakers, they looked a little bit better unfortunately for them. The first thirty, six minutes they didn't have that will to win and that was the difference in the game really. Yeah, they come out after halftime and you saw the the intense defense, the Lakers to get back in this game but they obviously didn't bring that in the first half especially the second quarter huge huge huge run by the nuggets bench that was really fun a team that was playing super fast. They were getting into their half court sets even though the Lakers were getting back. And getting into it real real quick and they got that big lead and this was a game of the Lakers. Just they were not bringing it as he said Trae and. A lot of this has to go on the stars. If you'RE GONNA give Anthony Davis all that superstar love, he had twenty seven in this one, but you only have two rebounds. He's that good that he can have twenty-seven boards but his team gets out rebounded forty, four to twenty five I'm not sure how a team with Anthony Davis our jail mcgeown Lebron James gets out rebounded by nineteen just shouldn't happen the Lakers bench unit didn't come in that. Second quarter maybe the KAROO shows get into his head a little bit Kuzma wasn't bringing it that second quarter huge lead for the nuggets and the stars took this baby home Nico. Yokich is F- fricken master. The way he is able to carve up offense with his is it doesn't need as hands for his feet. I. Mean. He just knows where to play is going to go as he comes down, he can read a defense incredibly well, I think. We. We don't really throw out. All, the superlatives until a guys like a super duper star but his I Q, You gotta throw that on them right now even as his younger age here he is. He is such a smart player and he was great and he outplayed the Lakers frontline in this one and Jamal Murray. You gotTa Kind Kinda. Just. Take a look at the whole package here what he's done in the playoffs seventeen games that he's played now and this. So this ain't a flute that he shooting over half of his shots are going in as guard who's taken shots from the outside. That's an incredible number I incredible number almost half of his threes forty eight percent are going in another incredible number seven and a half threes a game he's taking. So He's averaging twenty six points and that last ball he threw up, it's like a Sky Ball. It's like when screwing around playing. A pickup game at the end where you just throw it and try and touch the rafters and put it in. That's what it was. He really he almost he almost skimmed there hamsters it felt like down at Disney I love how they won and the N. as he said seats, they have been in control the last at least last six quarters of this series. I like how they won because I'm happy that they at least pulled winner because it'd be easy if we come into next season and I know as as people who Talk about the NBA every single day. We'd look back and say that nuggets team. You know just kind of a circumstantial team that got to the conference finals like the Blazers did last year blazers got swept last year by the Golden State Warriors Nuggets have come in. Could easily won game two. Now they win game three and they feel frigging good about it too and the Lakers no. Now that they have to come out and play four quarters against. Yokich Murray and then guys like Jeremy Grant obviously showed up big time if if he's getting to the RIM and getting the most free throw shots leading the game in free throw shots that means the Lakers weren't ready because he is just taking advantage of extra space and so the Lakers got to be ready game for yeah we'll trays right though the Lakers are in a tough spot here they can't win game four now. You can't go up three one on Denver. You'd be a fool to do that after what we see them doing the playoffs. So they actually have to throw game for they got tied up to two and then get to work in a best of three series. That's what I'm predicting here. I'm glad you brought up Jeremy, grant because Yeah Murray. You guys went over it just ultimately did close the game after that very very. Rough four hours ranch where they just kept giving the Lakers the ball. Here you go. Let's make this interesting. See WHO's still watching this game late at night but Jeremy Grant Playoff career high twenty, six points seven eleven shooting. You said attest ten to twelve at the free throw line Jeremy. Grant twelve free throw attempts. He was picking off steals scoring in transition over Lebron and Anthony Davis. He didn't hesitate to attack all night long the honestly at times was like who is that? Which guy is that? That's not Jeremy Grant we don't. We don't see this Jeremy. Grant all that often he split a double team on the block wants now I don't know why the Lakers are even double d. But. My God Jeremy Grits stepping through with a little force. They're trying to travel around the block and he found Tori Craig I believe it was cutting through the lane for two points. The Best Jeremy Grant Game I can ever remember that's the Best Jeremy Grant game we've ever seen, but this guy is still one of the most underrated guys in the league and it's been a bit of a coming out party for him playoffs. I think because against the Clippers he was instrumental in shutting down coli Leonard you know, and that's a completely different player to be guarding than Lebron. James, you know Lebron does a lot more with his muscles. Whereas, and maybe a little bit more at the quickness. But grant was able to stick both of them and that's pretty impressive for a Denver team that we're like, who's GonNa be their third guy that's always the question Michael. Porter Jr. had some nice shots last night but you gotta be able to do a little of both right. You've got to be a little offensive and a little defensive really be that third guy in Jeremy Grant was incredible last night it looked like he was playing the hardest of anybody out there. You don't see him scoring off the dribble and pulling up for three and shooting. Free throws like you're saying skates it was just very impressive game. The nuggets really wanted out there and you know it's a cliche that you just gotTa bring the effort but that was the case the nuggets were flying around for the entirety of the night. Their role players played awesome because they had the effort in the aggression to go out there and play with force hip I. There's all those things and it through the Lakers often the nuggets were just able to keep it up for the entire night except or you know those three minutes when they were throwing the ball. The Lakers for no reason. Another cliche is the sixers could could use that guy I one of their former players Jeremy Grant. It's been set a bunch in the playoffs about a bunch of guys having some good times in the postseason but you're. If joe-marie and Nikolay Yokich aren't awesome, Jeremy. Grant doesn't have this coming out party, but he has taken advantage of it. Big Time I love the superstar sandwich that he was in. It was nick. Anthony Davis and Lebron James sandwiching him on a break. And he somehow was able to fight through the bread and score it was. It was it was. Are you? Hungry. For Run. Yeah Yeah. That's true. Always always. Danielle I'M GONNA get upstairs after this Daniels. Say Are you hungry because I'm GonNa be irritable I'm always era after the show. Longer boy Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Jeremy Grant. Sanchez he was. It was so good. It's the consistency with him because you don't expect him to get twenty six points, but you want him to be out chippy and a couple of threes here and they a couple of those drives inside and a couple of cuts because again we talk about with the nuggets. If you on this team, there's a good chance Yokich or Murray we'll find you. Keep doing that across the entire game just inside because your teammates will find you and he can finish athletic. You can get up there and put a Dan. So it's not like he he's A. He he doesn't underneath there, and then he's a chance to get blocked unless of course is a big defender there. But that's the thing I think with grant. If he can provide that sort of a punch, full them on both ends of the floor, it just takes a lot of the offensively off Yokich Murray. I, thought are great because Michael Porter. Jr... He's had he's moments as well, but he lives in his own world a little bit if he's not getting the ball we. WanNa play real. This is an interesting dilemma. I. Think Forget alone. Play Puerto Junior is going to help you offensively. He's GonNa be able to score or Paul? MILLSAP. Who helps defensively who's been really really good against some of these big but gives you nothing right now Paul millsap. He's just he's sort of garbage on the offensive end unless he's got a wide open dunk. But it's like ooh. The NBA does that for us offense but gives it sort of all back at times because he out defensively and then millsaps the flip in that you gotta find that Nice balance so far so good I mean he's done a really good job. It's like you almost have to have millsap felt though even when he's giving really nothing because he's so good defensively truthfully is. Absolutely, and and that is the problem because millsap a couple of times he puts the ball on the floor and it teams just take it off him straight away. If he's if he's open for that three pointer minded taking that shot he's showing he can't knock that Dan you know in the latest stages of his career. But if I mean Michael Porter Jr. hit a crazy shot last night but then there are other times where he's he he's at classic I've like I haven't shopped for wall. So get the ball shooting next I don't care what stage of the game is and that's bad for you team that's frustrating but as young he'll learn from that. Those shots. Go in. Fourth quarter shots sometimes I do go in but it's more just that sort of mentality of like he's like thinking about himself I rather than the team and he's important to them because again that big long body that he's got there it's hard to stop those shots and he's a good shooter but it just sort of feels like he's like he's pouts when he's out there if he's not if he's not involved enough to what he believes, he should be out playing right now. Yakutia last night for sure. Not a better but. I think the nuggets must look at this game. In this situation I think there are certainly some things I can exploit on the Lakers. And they're shortstop Monte. Mars. Last night was hitting shots Gary Harris. They need those little contributions from all. Those goal is to keep the scoreboard ticking because if they go stagnant, that's where I really struggle as we saw there in that fourth quarter. My June had little to on who was it up talk Nice. Little handsy on the defensive that was going to happen but then he turns it over but. I really that second quarter was monstrous with the Monte Morris Michael Porter Jr. Tori Greg, Mason plumlee and they're playing with the journal Murray was. That really turned the game they they destroyed the Lakers bench and and then the the stars come back in Yokich came back in and. They did not give up the lead until well, they almost give it up. It got close to three point game three point one. D. Had. New bricked. Yeah. That's right. That's right. So we saw Dwight Howard get the start in the second half here team three but devel- still started the game is the Javale McGee. Experiment done in this series tasked as Vogel just go to. Go interesting. At. The five. Does he switch things up here to get a little life back into this team or is it just a case of like hoping some of these guys especially Your Rondos. KUZMA's your Caruso and they played better. What do you think? What would you do if you're Vogel. I start drilling McGee. Again I thought he was decent in his minutes. He's working buff. Dwight Howard just has to be better. I think he was part of the bench problem with with Rondo and Caruso, what is Dwight doing throwing the ball into the stands that aren't stands what what is he doing I just play better Don't be joint. doofus. B. B B. The good player that you were in in game one and then for. A little bit of game to He's doing a good job and apparently this is the athletic reporting he was on the bench and he said, hey, joker to Yokich. Batman is common for yeah. That sounds something exactly like joint Howard. He's into the head games too much. He's taken it too far already. They think it's over. That's the problem sometimes. Just. Benches just thinks Oh man look at us one. Oh, or feeling good squeaked and number game number two. Oh Yeah. We got this thing and it's resembling a tiny bit of the clippers and the jazz where. They just. Stopped playing. Your effort goes and I, think you saw especially like you pointed out tasks like. The. First thing that goes when you have no energy is like stop boxing gang rebounding and hitting the glass and they just got pummeled Anthony Davis too many Detroit half one. One rebound yeah did these are big guys like not getting really anything off the glass? You're right. That's that's a big part of effort. No doubt in credit to the nuggets for what it a little bit more in in the Lakers from maybe being checked out gotta. beat the nuggets. That's the main thing right that we've found out through the playoffs they're not going to roll over and just be beaten. It would be easier to say you lost game won pretty handily. Crushing game to defeat losing on a last second shot but they came out and they played hard you. You can't just expect the nuggets to roll over at this point especially considering the Lakers don't really have an answer right now joe-marie or Nikolai Yokich when both stars are able to play well, Bennett just a matter of getting some decent performances from the role players and you're in the game. Yeah. What did you think of start you? Lebron's last couple of games here. What's what's going on with Lebron is he is he just trying to coast a little bit right now Into possibly the finals where you can ramp it up a little bit again. Is it something else that I'm missing? What do you think he looked guest at the end of the game they allows not in the fourth quarter a couple of times he had his hands on his on his knees and it was like man he looks exhausted and now in that fourth quarter when they to get things going hit that three and then he hit a couple of ranges as well and it was almost like Lebron sort of looking around going I. Don't really think I should have to do this. Anymore. But I'm going to have to because no one else is really performance or not. But he drove inside a couple of times and he dragged his team back into contention but I think it also took a toll on him and again he's just like we need to have Anthony Davis who should have taken. He was he was good for most of the game, but he needs to get those other contributions from guys and it just sort of looks to me that Lebron the workload is a little bit heavy for him right now that's what I thought because he had a rough game. Jamal Murray you got wacked by someone else as well later on. So few hits. When he got whacked by Jamie. Murray that flagrant one. He definitely got. Emphasize. I just wanted to tell that story that the only moment Danielle looked up to the television during this game was the replace Lebron getting hit. She said whoa exaggeration much. A little bit. But listen my by. Daddy connected and that is a flagrant one for based on the way they call it these days there was no attention there I don't think from Mary. It was more just because Lebron lifts his arms up and then he tries to shrug away from it and he connects in but anyway I didn't I didn't have an issue with that because I like cold out all the time. So they consistent but I just. Looked Lebron their fourth quarter and the look on his face was just like I'm exhausted out here and he's five years old he's going to be thirty six in a month or two. So at some point, it is going to catch up with especially if he has to do all those things and those mid range is a couple of days mid-range as I thought, he was there and he was looking around discount like. Is it I mean I can I'm just GONNA shoot it. Then that's it and there was no flow to that offense was no ball movement. Now, WHO's that? WHO's folders that it's at the coaches at players is the latest I'm not sure but it just sorta look to me like Lebron, was like all right. It's up to me again to do this Any merely did he nearly nearly did it but that's not how the Lakers WanNa play certainly not Lebron wants to have to play to win games in my opinion. Yeah I don't know I. Don't know I. Don't know if I believe that Lebron is getting tired. We saw get like four straight transition buckets there in the fourth quarter after everybody saying this guy's washed he's too old and then it was like he's the fastest guy on the court again. Yeah. He got tired after that but it's it's tiring to come back from twenty points in six minutes you know. Just. A factor of I don't WanNa have to be the only guy doing this out here, and I can see that being the case that's been the case for Lebron before where he's passing the ball trying to get everybody else involved but he's had two subpar games despite the numbers being alright. So. You would have to imagine a game four from Lebron it's going to be a classic I thought game three was a lot better than game to and. His numbers, I don't even WanNa say them 'cause it's Hilarious to say that he had a bad game going fourteen of twenty three. That's pretty good percents sixty percent from the floor going thirty eleven and ten. I. Mean. He turned the ball over a little too much for sure. And Yeah, he was not and he was not full throttle the entire game. His legs looked a little dead But at times he was picking his spots and he was out running the nuggets and it is hard yet to come back from that big a deficit and. In the end in the fourth quarter that accord he played every single minute. There plus ten who they won that quarter by a lot but. Key Watts other people to step up. Like he did for his older guys when he was a Cleveland Cavalier and carrying the team at all times. He needed guys to step up in that first half a little bit and You know they they kind of disappointed Rajon Rondo said after after game one and game two. He said that's why Lebron brought me in when you when he played really well and had agree past the Yokich Lebron also brought you into a tough defense and to play hard and so the guys that what Ron brought in GM Lebron is Rondo was calling him and everybody else calls him. They failed O'Brien in a way they weren't up to the task especially in that second quarter, it was a with best in that the first few minutes. It was horrendous they. They lost the the first three minutes and eight seconds of that second quarter by thirteen points the show Morris. Clues Mirando and and him lineup and so. I, don't know I think. He can be better and he expected Anthony Davis to be better in this game. Nobody was hustling on his team and they just decided in the fourth quarter Oh yeah. We got to come back and they got they got to bring the intensity from the GECKO. Kill Mode Lebron blocks that grant layup in transition. That's what. It was like he destroys that and just pins that on the glass like we've seen him do time after time. Didn't actually really come close I don't know if he thought he was going to do under what? We did look a little gas even there and that particular moment of the game and then you're right. Got Him back in it with Rondo. Then get a little more aggressive the whistle swollen a little bit. They've got all the turnovers but then came up a little bit short. Yeah. I'm sure it will be fine and as you guys have pointed out, still a monster game just comes in a loss and it's just like he's yeah maybe he's like it appears to be trying to pick a spots here and I'm with you Lee at other times. What are we all right I guess I'll go here. Let me let me have I mean especially on a network eighty doesn't have gone. So for the most part yeah, we'll see this is great. Though is what we want we wanted to know gets to win because we think celtics he'd go along I. Think we all agree with that you know six or seven. We don't want this end in in four. We don't want this in five if we can. Let's let's stretch the so lear nuggets and six still. Alive. Absolutely Lebron. One more thing about him is he doing taco Tuesday down in the bubble. TACO Tuesday clip earlier I in the bubble maybe even during the seeding games. He. Yeah. You know they're readily available. Easily in Orlando for sure. But it has done a national Taco shortage. Lebron usually goes What's it called? Zero dark thirty right let's social media during the plan has been doing that as affecting looking screen. To. Check his screen time to get my hands on his phone. C. Compared to last year was quite high. It's up three hundred percent. I'm sure I'll right. So great great game there from the nuggets. Not only Yokich. Murray. Close in deal at twelve assists from he was at Damn Awesome Point Guard last night that was the other part wasn't just like Oh. Yeah. Crazy. Murray shots. He was setting guys up and it helped those guys hit shots and grant. Morrison guys went through the through the roster there. Let's take a quick break here from our sponsors. Taking care of your mental health is a necessity right now, guys life is different where isolated. We're constantly worrying were drained. I know I'm a little bit more irritable. Even, more than normal hipped. With Daniel no doubt. But I just blame it on my flu shot I got a flu shot a couple of days ago. 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That's one hundred bucks off your first month at talks base dot Com Promo Code. No ducks. All right. Let's get to the up down report padding. got. Fun. Fun Topics here to throw some thumbs on. Thumbs up. Thumbs down. Let's see you guys do the same in the youtube chats or on twitter at no dunk tank I won this Chicago Bulls have hired former thunder coach Billy Donovan as their new head coach according to reports the Bulls Front office aggressively pursued Donovan selling him on a partnership and vision for this talented young bulls roster I don't need to remind trae. But the bowls spent the last three years in the lottery finished seven games back of the magic in the race throw that in air quotes for the eighth in the east this season. So Trey will start with you. It's your team. Maybe are you ever down on the Bulls hiring former o'casey head coach, billy Donovan I am so up on this, I am shockingly up on this fact that it even happened while what? A mind blowing thing that the Chicago Bulls would not cheap out on co-chair they actually hired a coach people have heard of. It would have been nice. Maybe email would be a great coach maybe West until junior would be a great coach but this is the first coach, the Bulls of hired Scott Scales that has previous head coaching experience and I think it's huge. It's huge to no longer be a joke in the NBA the Bulls are winning the off season and it's not even the off season yet think about how season ended for the Bulls they didn't make it to the bubble in a in a season where they said they were GonNa make the playoffs they had gar packs and Jim Boylan as their as their brain trust. Now, we're into the conference finals and you've got our tourists. Karnishovas. Mark Ever Xlii and Billy Donovan things are trending. The right way is billy Donovan good coach literally have no idea on offense it's been give it to the superstar. They will figure it out but on defense, the guy been versatile and has defenses have always been good. We've seen in this year's playoffs that that's really important to have defenses who can play a bunch of different ways and the funder did that they were more of a trapping team when Paul George and Russell Westbrook were around and this year they played a little bit more conservatives game with Chris Paul has their point. Guard and some other less impactful defenders. But there were still a top ten defense I'm impressed nextstep step is bringing back. Joe Aquino, and this is the most excited. Obviously Billy Donovan and joking Noah have a pre existing relationship from college. They want a couple of titles. Gioacchino is going to be available for the veteran minimum bring him in literally in so that he can teach these young balls how to play winning basketball the. Back. DRINK, every is Tom. You know who's also bumped up by all reports Zach. Levine. Goll- final be good. Now you can see that sarcastically actually wow, that'll be good or you can say, wow, that'll be good with billy Donovan in there I think it is the latter he's pretty pumped up what do you think Billy Donovan taken over the Bulls. Head coaching job. Well Yeah. I think sack Levine's reaction while he was gaming. Literally. Happened live while while he was playing on. A video game and the reporters of the Bulls no tackling doesn't necessarily get super aunt. So when he did say, wow, it was genuine he pup. As trae said about whether or not. Billy Donovan is a good coach Billy Donovan's name. It's better than a non name I guess but when it comes down to making these guys who have a lot of potential on the roster allow remarketing. You're Kobe whites a lot of good guys. Is he going to make them better? Is he going to get the most out of them? I thought Kenny Atkinson would have been a good fit for that of but. Maybe Billy Donovan can do it too. It's it is something that they didn't cheap out on, which is surprising. The the most notorious thing that they've done in in the front office are firings the last fifteen years. That's that's the thing that they can put up on top of the list and they replace them with Karnishovas and Marc Evers land, and you got expected to do a good job because it seems like he's a good coach There will be I think a lot of Fred Hoiberg comparisons if things don't go well but It's it's. I'm sure all that experience in. Okay. See even though he started with Katie and Russia and had had a lot of superstardom and this year was a little different with Chris Paul and they they did excel a lot. I'm sure that's how I'm sure that that will be anti Fred Hoiberg because he's coming in with some NBA experience so. It's going to be on the floor where it's all proven really. Yeah. Yeah. But it is interesting. Hey, coach, we're GonNa, take away all your all NBA players. Now, let's see what you can do because that's what he's going to have here in Chicago. But young talent no doubt. I'd add one Carter junior to the mix like you were saying they're tasked with Lauri Markkanen and Kobe. White Maybe can stay healthy that'd be great start for the Bulls to actually have some of these guys out on the floor they play off team. Lee You think next year, Chicago Bulls No, I think so I mean let's just wait and see what happens in free agency draft. Who's maybe they can find someone there. But that's the thing with Billy Donovan he left Okay Casey because I think he looked at the heading into sort of a rebuild. If you seem Chris Paul, white be there and maybe one or two of those other veterans, Galleria. Maybe Stephen Adams, he's going to a situation where they're in a similar position Chicago they have. Some talent fish oil but some of these guys have may not stay on the floor and we just don't know quite what the ceiling is for someone like a window car or Larry Marketing and Zach Levine well, I mean he's he's a good score but the this a, there's some pieces there but it's not a completely different scenario that he was probably facing there and I'd say, but it's a different situation and and so maybe he can get something. It's to be a big test for him as he has to has to get these guys to perform to a high level than their flight up before but it's not Jim Boylan. So. This might be the ultimate addition by subtraction exactly intact. Boylan it's one of those like it just feels good to have a guy who you think is actually going to get some results out of these guys, what are they going to be like a playoff team or not I'm not sure but it just sort of feels like there's going to be a little bit more accountability a bit more stability in a bit more hope at least with the border because. Oh Jimmy just. Things were just crazy and. I think they take down the punch clock? No no they're gonNA keep that in as a tribute. I'm not sure I'm really not sure because we you know we talk a lot about is a coach. How important is a coach? Well, it's comes down to the talented players, but can they communicate to Kenny get these guys to reach the potential that we see in those players because I mean, when was the last time anyone? So a window Carter, Larry? Mark Native plight honestly like it feels like it was like two years ago now because it's been so long and they've been injured but again. I. Was watching the march was still play I. Thought Marketing was added. In Window Carter's rookie season remember thinking like these guys like, Tyson Chandler type ago I can block shots. He can catch is a he can be impactful, but it just feels like long since we've seen these guys play me trade I had the bulls make in the playoffs had boiling for coach of the Year of the. Koby white who looks amazing one. Threes that he looks like garbage when you can't hit one I mean I was all in on the bull Kobe wide a just an upgrade on nick young you know go you could shoot but doesn't do much not saying. Or is he or is he more a guy? WHO's like? Hey, this guy is actually a reliable. Five or six, three play defense I, mean if he can do that in the something. Yeah. But if it's good enough shooting I threes if he's opponents are shooting at the other end. So are we going to see what Donovan did an okay see with these three guard lineups are we going to see a lot of you know white sat around ski and Out of here. Derrick rose off. Al Horford is now trade target. Corey brewer is going to be in the mix they're going to get Taurean green out of retirement. You can lock the Bulls in for a playoff spot. You can lock Zach Levine in for an all star Spot Lee, the Bulls are on a winning streak. They won their last game march ten over the cavs Martin an Carter both in the lineup wow, this has been a great Pam de for the. Rest. Bringing people you've heard love this. I will say like I said Larry Mark and I think I think he's a very talented player and I. Like Donovan can really get that adamant become. Not, GonNa say the big D would but. You, know like a guy who can shoot and play defense and is a tough matchup 'cause he's big. What does he seven feet and he's he's got that shot when it goes in but. It's just the Bulls. So long a lot nicer it goes. Yeah. I mean, you know they've just been such a chaotic franchise for the last few years like billy, Donovan contest of all of the sudden Mike them like competent. Immediately it's GONNA. Take a little bit of time but fingers crossed that maybe things that brought brought a days ahead for the Bulls and when you look at like their possibility, their chances of making the playoffs next year because you start looking at teams like, okay that team they're going to be there. Yeah. They're probably can still be there. They're going to be there. They're going to be there. It's like who is dropping out of those top spots and ain't going to be the nets ads really unlikely. You're looking at the magic right. I mean, because when you think box raptors celtics, pacers heat sixers and the nets like I said. I mean, I. Don't think any of those seven teams maybe someone injury happens to one of them. So yeah, there's a slot there. So we tough it's not a given, and then you got the wizards theory getting better John Comes back hawks could be better with all their use wash it very, very difficult but the gotta be gotta be gotta keep their guys healthy. That is a huge part is how these guys play together for crying out for a good chunk of games and months here, and then maybe make a push there for the. Trump back on board maybe don't you worry. Only, one team only one of those teams that you mentioned just signed a raining coach of the year. Coach Co coach of the year. The Golden Globes edition no doubt about it. But Lee you gotTa admit literally hiring billy. Donovan turns around the franchise instantly because Jim Boylan is not there anymore there's no way that any. Potential free agent would look at the Chicago Bulls with Gar packs and Boylan there and say, Yup, that's who I want. Just the idea that Billy Donovan was back is or is in the in the coaching spot is image. Rehab, right away, just having a competent guy there it's and they brought in mcevers Lee as well. Apparently has a very good reputation and an issue talked about that. But does that one little shadow that still looks in the franchise and it is packs he's still there. He's still there there he's. Giving mentioned in the press room. Huge that was also a win for the fall. Could. Right. Now, as long as they don't have to play games I'm always. On the move. Exactly how I felt in October twenty nine, hundred. I'm like all they got it. They gotta come on as soon as the ball tips I'm ready to be disappointed but right now I'm lovin this long lay-off because it's all good I think the booze of at least read the room and it's like just kate taxes name out of it just don't say. Don't just as nine because that's what is still there as long as he's still you know he's got the ear of rhinestone off they're. Not. Dangerous but has got his coach. He's got his assistant gem and the now what are they pick seventh in the draw I think. Usually do so forthright. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So you know still positive still to come out of this season I don't know who they're going to get number four spot, but at least the the Bush should have a better season than they had last season hard luck. Good luck to the Bulls I. Don't think they're doing anything in free agency because they're basically locked up with everybody one guy he didn't mention who doesn't play locked up. Because they're paying paying auto porter, twenty eight and a half mil had and. Pretty sure. He's going to take that player option. I think he's their highest paid player and then Zach Levine Fatty sunset or Ansi Felicia they're all getting paid so there. Approximately. This is just an estimate, but they're a one hundred and nine hundred mil up. So this is going to be on billy dough to make these guys work and Levine, we saw him last year get very angry at Jim Boylan He didn't like him. He wanted more superstar sort of role on that team and Billy Donovan. If you read his history if you look at his history, he gave that a scandal rainy gave that to Chris, Paul? Is that is an Russell and Russell Westbrook in between there, that's right if. He gets that exactly being guess is it going to be an accountable star is going to lead this team in a good way. I mean. He did have a lot of the rains but. Now player development alongside Zach Levine like Otto Porter. You know as unimportant come along and take this team to the playoffs. We shall see there's there's a lot of talent, but that's the the issue a lot of potential I don't WanNa, say the keyword, but I'll say its potential, it's not a it's not necessarily productive potential you on these guys all have to come out and get better and. It's going to be up to billy staff to do that. We will see. All right next one here. This is sort of bad news for NBA fans, but they're likely won't be any. Christmas. Day Basketball Games this year commissioner Adam. Silver told CNN. I guess it was Bob Costas on CNN on Tuesday that the goal for twenty twenty twenty one season is to play a standard season and he believes it would be. Better off getting into January for the tip. So there had been talk that next season could tip office earliest Christmas Day but there's been speculation that could start later maybe like Martin Luther King, junior day on January eighteenth or even you know there's still talk of it starting March and then maybe going through. October. So Alaska this task and go I are you down the likelihood the chances of starting next NBA SEASON On Mlk Day let's say mid-january there that January eighteenth date what do you think upper down on down on locking down a date there's just no just push it back and say we don't know because that's the honest truth and continuing to throw these dates. It's SORTA pointless and there's still an issue here in the US of the cases for Corona virus are on the rise again and it's GonNa get cold people are GonNa, get indoors and the scientist but cases are going to go up even more. So in poorly ventilated areas instead of people being outside we've all been. Like I've been jogging around these last few months and so there's there's really no point in saying. Hey, we're GONNA start on Martin Luther King Day. We know we we assumed that they're not doing a bubble next season. It's highly highly unlikely with teams flying around. This isn't the same sort of scenario where there was a hiatus and they were able to finish the season with some seating games in the playoffs. This is a whole season we're talking about I think they can push it back and I think there's no point in trying to nail down a date right now and I'm sure. They want fans in the stands. That's definitely. A priority and fans and indoor arenas. It's. Unless it's a campaign rally, which shouldn't be happening right now that's not happening in the US and so it shouldn't be even contemplate right now. I think just just chill mlk day. Of course, it's a good business decision to have on a holiday all your games on the first day. And it's not necessarily anything for civil rights I. Mean It really would be a business decision. I say just just chill just show. We don't need to know they can push it back and the NBA has shown. They're very good, very adaptable and if it's marched to November. There's other issues right now. I think we can chill on the on thinking about a day. Okay. But maybe thumbs up then tasks on at least silver saying this is not happening on Christmas basically he's saying look, you're not gonNA see next starting this calendar year it will likely likely be sometime in two thousand, twenty one. Yeah I I agree with that. What do you think? Yeah. It seems like it's not GonNa happen this year which the only question. Then for me 'cause like tasks saying who knows when they're actually going to start up. Twenty twenty, one NBC's, and maybe it will be an all twenty one season starting in March but. It seems unlikely that we will ever get back to the standard. Through June schedule, because the league apparently still wants to play eighty two games for next season as you'd expect. So if that's the case and you start in even February, you're talking about months season that ends in what August Ish. Maybe September and then you're not going to start the next season in October. So we might be looking at a completely different schedule for the rest of our lives here. Yeah. Would throw into that too. I saw Tim Reynolds tweeting about it. Let's not forget about the Olympics to and maybe complications that arise with that. If you start season in March and it goes later and then the Olympics actually do happen. You know sometime in the summer are NBA player just GonNa not go. Is there any sort of hiatus that happens like they've done before in the NHL? That's another little wrinkle it's not that important I'll agree but it's still there to be decided on what do you think, Lee Yeah. It's just so hard to know what the next six months in the world looks like. Really. For me you know to have fans indoors in stadiums everyone sort of touching things again just doesn't seem like the right thing for me. So my focus would clearly be on just trying to get league back in some format whatever that is, and then when it becomes Saif again, then we can maybe start allowing fans coming but I I I know they're hoping on rapid testing. Still. From financial point of view they want fans back. That's clear. There's no doubt no doubt about it but to me that would not be the priority I would say if we can figure out just the way to get the players on the teams to travel safely to be able to play the season in some form that should be a goal and if that's in January of fruits in March or even. If it's lighter, it doesn't really matter to me because I think it's more important that once it starts, you wanted to be able to continue rather than like again if you go back in, let's January February and all of a sudden one or two teams just contract the virus and you Kinda have to suspend the season I would think again no one really knows because it's just such a crazy time so. If. It's such a tough thing for Adam silver even figure out and have to tell the owners and the players and the players association because it's like we just aren't really what's going on. So Hopefully something happens and hopefully we can get it up running again but it win. That is I honestly have no idea right now. What's your personal take tests speak? selfishly if you want, would you like the idea of the NBA calendar being march to October instead of October to June? Which one would you prefer you know what and. I finally figured out how to how to. Evaluate or how to figure out how seasons a guy has played now with even though he's gone over, he goes over two calendar years. I. Finally figured it out and I know we all want to have A. Season within one year but I'm selfish and that. Even though we all want to say, yeah, back in twenty, twenty, two, Lebron led the league with forty four points a game. Yeah. But I'm okay I'm okay. Being really being the only convoluted sport that really runs over two years because even the NFL runs over two years but we all they all playoffs, right? It doesn't. Say the other year I. Don't know I mean. I think the NBA and I guess selfishly this summer's best thing to have off the NBA. Well, that's that's yeah. That's what I was really trying to get out. I was like, do you want the summers still or do you want to be watching basketball indoors all summer long which is what you would be doing what we have been doing here, which has been all right too because you're not going anywhere anyway. So maybe. Not In the south nobody's outside anyway. It's good point eight trae. You want to be able to stay indoors during the hot summer watch basketball and then hey, when the winter hits here, you can fly somewhere warm if you want to ooh Snow Bird. Maybe I could you know as a bulls fan? I'm happy with them delaying the start of the season as long as possible. That's all good for me. Baby. You're taking a whole year off. That's a year of the Bulls not being disappointed. Shot. But I mean honestly if they're playing during the summer, they won't do it the same way it wasn't the bubble right where the Games are starting at twelve thirty in the end at twelve thirty in the morning, it'll be back to normal evening basketball you would think, and in that case, it's just a change in your schedule I like having the summers off but you know I'm an adaptable Kinda guy humans adjust hearth. Please, you don't care at all do well, the summers off. Traveling remain. Yeah. Just travel during the winter school holidays are our boys are on holidays go. Winter. Yeah. I. Mean That's Some is always much more fun to travel in okay. All right. Thank you for speaking. Honest. Honest. Final One. Weird a rare and coveted jaanus onto Kabul onto the Kubo skews me autographed patch rookie card sold for a record breaking one point eight, one, two, million dollars at auction on Sunday night according to guess who Darren reveals. Gail expensive cards. This card was around the two thousand, thirteen fourteen national treasures sets. So in addition to it being a one of one card becky graded this car to nine and the autograph on it from you a ten my question upper now down. On, spending nearly two million dollars on a Jaanus rookie card. listen I'm Dan. Fried. So you guys know of popping packs recently on average they live there and I'm trying to mix up the cats. From the early nineties, I want to get some from the mid to late nineties. Recently, I spent a hundred and twenty dollars on a full box like thirty, six packs of projects. I think they were awfully whatever they were and I regretted it from the moment I. Did it. I was like, what am I doing spending this much money on cards on a forty four year old man just the white cards tell some stories. Business success. So it's Fine. It's fun. But I'm like, what am I doing? So someone to spend one point eight, million dollars on a at a Janas onto coupon code because it has a little piece of his game Worn Jersey on their autograph and Okay Am I am I reading this correctly there's only one of these cards ever made apparently so and King stupid too. Yeah. That is stupid and make any sense. So apparently, someone bordered as well a few years ago, but returned to the Selah because. Yeah he paid seven thousand dollars in which is still ridiculous but he returned Nasr going onto self a one point nine, nine, the same company that paid one point eight million for Michael. Jordan cod a few weeks ago say someone who spent three point six, million dollars onto cards. I mean that's just ridiculous. What are you? GonNa do what team when I finished when are finished papa packs bull just throw them in the. A big bag of. them on the spokes of your bike. I. Mean. What are you doing? If you've got one point I really. Counts give me a call. I'll sell you a few gods and you WANNA play one point eight billion. Fifty. Bucks. A pop. You can buy as many because it's just crazy to me that people just would spend that much like what is this? What is it gonNA give you how you're going to get return on your investment for that and sell it for two point five million. Uh. Goes from. Honest Part is interesting. Yeah. Lebron I think he had his rookie card just sell for like one point eight something that you talked about. Jordan. That makes little sense because those are like obviously, you know players that are in the goat discussion right? I mean if not the goats. Is Not there yet I mean this is an investment right? This is like banking on. Doing some special things still tasks in his career I mean for paying that much money. I get that. It's a one of one. I still find that very weird that doesn't seem right to me just sit right with me. There should be more than that should be a willy wonka golden ticket. There's gotta be at least five, but this is honest me super young still you know knock on wood. KUBOTA's knee. Game One of next season starting. We're time we're starting on Martin Luther King Day. He's not ready for it blows out his knee and suddenly that card. Goes down. That's a risk your money. Melles. What do you think? It sounds like a rich guy who wants to. I mean. I. Don't think it's that much different skeets than you pan seven hundred bucks to frame something to put on your wall. It's just relative right like. A lot of people put seven hundred dollars into a towel like you did. Yeah because you can look at it take a peek of that. We do. I go. That's always. Card up on the wall TAZAR. Hey. Juliet card down on your bed there you got frame that card. Shuman. Schumer's jokes now. Yeah but would you spend two million dollars incurred I don't have two million dollars. I think you do forty four acres man sell your you by a couple of. Parcel of land guys this is obviously an incredible investment. The first guy spent seven thousand dollars on it, but he's a dumb, ass you returned it and now it's worth. One point eight, million dollars you sell it again, how much is it going to be worth? Five, million, ten, billion Someone Wilford like, Oh, no way. Somebody's going to pay five hundred dollars for it. That's how much they're gonNA pay for this is rich guy who's got too much money to do anything with this like he just doesn't know where to spend other robotics that might be one to. The rich guys can trade it at a go. Go hang out at their their little bike fast and throw them off spokesman pay two, million bucks. He paid two million dollars for a card with a stain on it I mean. Not, even wasn't even great a ten from Beckett you fool, but there is a weird explosion going on hearing cards in the business I think you have something to do with this lead because I saw that last month a two, thousand, nine autographed Mike Trout. Baseball player Mike Trout Rookie Card again one of one sold for three point nine million dollars. The most expensive baseball card ever sold surpassing What was that old guy onus flag Near Tony Us. Yes. That's Crazy Shouli, you can find something better to spend your money on the that if you've got three point nine to burn like donated to charities, help some people out I mean. Basketball hot. How stupid I to spend that much money on it too seriously. Box of them for one hundred twenty. One hundred twenty nine regretted it, and I'm I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA make cuts around some Hell said I, repay my family I feel like I stole from my family that one hundred and twenty dollars. Plus you just resell the cards there obviously worth a lot. Gosh man making millions of dollars. Well, I throw them together I have a big bag where I just throw the the used ones in there but speaking of pop and packs today at four PM Eastern. Pop. Open. Apac with their friend night. John's is going to join slalom. Yeah. Interesting? Yeah. I thought they'd be a good guess because nightmares not basketball better than anyone. So should be fun. Four PM Eastern no doubt. Actually, I thought it was going to be the delivery guy delivering your passport. Task Melissa No. Done some athletic. Do you WANNA walk into a room with your chest puffed out your neck long and your shoulders broad. Of course you do for me getting closed fit properly can give me the confidence I need to do just that. Indochino hook me up with the gear. That fits perfectly. I dreaded getting dressed for my zoom meetings but now I changed for each one with a big smile on my face. I did a virtual fitting on Indochino slick website for them to get my measurements. 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For players that nobody else us we put it out to our twitter account asking that very question. What are some NBA nicknames you use that? No one else does like JD's family who calls Fred Vanfleet Sexy Fred or the future nickname for Kyrie Irving. Once he returns one hundred percent dribble issues people came through with some great answers I this one from Harrison People's calling Aron Baynes Bangers, but no one else seems to actually think this is not bad. BANGERS not too bad. I would gladly is that this one from Sergio Collado longtime fan freight train genes for Lebron I think it sounds cool but never caught on I. Guess this sounds to me like a very old tiny baseball nickname. Trainer, Jim. I'd buy. That baseball card. I wish you think that one's is Easily. No. Yeah. It depends on the stain on the back up next. Up Next from Andrew Willis who says Bo biscuits for I'm Bogdonovich. Reminded me of a great biscuits Vasquez one of the all-time great TJ nicknames I. Think I've only called greatest Vasquez gray biscuits ever since yeah I can't believe that when didn't come up yesterday that one and the armadillo cowboy for Joe Johnson very good. Tara is a couple more here. This one's from Great Dane Ninety Dana says sweet baby boots. To. To think this one will catch on at least the mugs. No dogs between the NFL lease obvious fascination with Kumble Justin and skeets is obvious of sweet baby. Put them together on the raptors just perfect. Well, hold on doesn't have a pretty good nickname. They Call Slim Duck. Yeah. It is. Is We baby I like it though last couple here this one is from a Danny g slamming Danny Gee I tried to get jv nasty to catch on for Jonas in Tunis for years and I'm still trying it's not bad. But actually bad is this one from Mattie Macho who says for some reason my dad started calling you on this. Valerie's ain't it. makes. Sense when that guys the asked pro shops player the game every single. Valerie's. Good stuff. Thanks for chiming. Great Looks Great. Great stuff. All Right, guys game four eastern, conference finals back up tonight. The Celtics even this series or the heat push them to the brink of elimination. What's one thing to watch for task game for between Celtics and he got? I'm going to be watching the Celtics defensive. They come out with that terror nasty that they came out in in the first half end. I'm also just watching them because I love watching Marcus smart he even though it can be a little polarizing. Play, defense, as well as Jalen Brown those guys are are so cool to watch and you guys talked about it on Sunday show. It's the fairness great defensive jaylen Brown versus the the ruggedness flopping defensive Marcus smart out of those guys are just fun to watch on the defensive end. Now, if they are engaged for forty eight minutes, it's it's it's hard on the heat. It's just so hard because they don't really have a guy sorry Jimmy who can take over. Right now just hasn't hasn't. Materialized on that and feels like the Celtics have a little bit more that the Celtics play a complete game in game three. That's why they won and can they do that again I'm going to be watching the defensive NC, their scrapping this level and and just how frigging talented they are on that end because they are a joy to watch defensively trae watching for. kind of the exact same thing from the opposite angle is tasked I. Want to see Jimmy Butler takeover game. We've been talking about as one of the best players in the bub one of the best players, the NBA and he's had some crazy clutch moments but would also be nice to see another one of those forty point games from. Jimmy Butler. So We're not having to see yet another fourth quarter comeback fall short that's happened a couple of times in the past couple of nights. So I'd like to see the big face coffey grind up some expresso really come out fire and here early on that being said, I'm still rooting for the Celtics. I want this one going seven just like how on every series going? Okay. Okay. Leelee. What do you think tonight? I think the winner of tonight's game wins the series which. Takes and honestly I think the Celtics looked at that game three I'm alike especially with Gordon Hayward back here figured out a little bit of hell, the Miami Heat play, and they know that they can attack that that Zarni an attack, the pint, and that's what I need to do to win. So I. Think the Celtics actually win this one tonight. So then that means I think they're gonNA win the series. I picked that Hey, I hope that doesn't happen. I'm wrong but I'm right at the same time because I'm sort of hedging both teams. To Jennifer hedger's you I just I just thought that the Celtics. Kind of you know again, the close in the first two games and the game three they figured it out and Hayward's back and he's arrested. He looked good. He you know he didn't have a huge numbers game, but he's hand out. There is very, very important for them and I thought Jaylen Brown's like he's just going to go so hard at the tonight I think so. I think this is a huge game pivotal. This is super pivotal. Super Super. Always a close one I think we're going to get some. Some fireworks here tonight to between these two teams because they're gonNA want this one. It's going to be scrap all these teams play hard. We could see some forehead to forehead action. My Buddy Grisham could be excited for this. Yeah, we'll see guys emails, your questions or comments for the next step and podcast grab yourself. Some sweet. No ducks t shirts at no dunks dot com, and if you haven't already subscribe to the Athletic, tell him, we sent you go to the athletic dot com slash no sign up for one dollars a month. That's it for today show don't forget to go listen to. Yesterday's beach in podcast. Lot of last had in that one and we'll be back tomorrow morning to break breakdown game for heat. 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Mason and Ireland [HR 3]

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland [HR 3]

"It's time for fast track. Etch body back on track fast get rid of those unwanted inches freeze the fat with Dr Grant Stephen Team at Marina plastic surgery visit freeze the fat dot. Com One side of the coin John. You are able to magically hit your twenty league team parlay this week. It's only going to be a ten team parlay team. It is an absolute law other side of the coin no way heads heads funchess teamer coming back from the pack like a Horse a horse race shooting through everybody and then you get the back of the past all right according to Daniel capped in Kaplan from the athletic the NFL competition committees can open a an investigation about the Miami Dolphins and their tanking yes here's part of Kaplan's argument the fabric of the NFL is built on the Evan Gin any given Sunday toss that infuses fans with the belief that any NFL team can beat any other NFL team. It's not baseball where team as one hundred sixty two sometimes meaningless games spread across regional sports channels or the NBA with eighty two regular season games. NFL teams only have sixteen and they are all national channel with an inordinate amount of pressure and hype for each game. Here's the question what should the NFL do according to Kaplan happen some ideas include adding an NBA style draft lottery so the dolphins wouldn't be guaranteed the first pick limiting the number of first round picks a team can hold and or reducing draft status based on sustained poor performance. Let's say the NFL Paju Steve Mason. Listen in charge of dealing with tanking and you can't do nothing you have to make at least one change to address this. Your goal is to make sure another team doesn't pull what the dolphins are doing now losing on purpose. What do you do what you say and a half to do one thing. I think that this is happening now and and will always happen. I think maybe the NBA does to the draft lottery so I think the dolphins should be able to take and get the first pick a franchise quarterback is emmy changes is the course of your future right but in the NBA in the NBA I in the NBA last year I think it was the Knicks who had the worst pick right and it didn't work and they ended up getting the Third Pick Zion. They are not the first team to do it. They're not the last team to do it. I'm not it's not a pleasant thing. It's not something I root for but I understand why the dolphins offense would tank and I understand that that's part of the Game Greg. You have to do one thing you can't do nothing. What do you do to deal with tanking I liked I liked the draft lottery idea and also look at what the Cleveland Browns have done. They've had the number one overall pick many times and screwed it up undesirably. You can screw it up. It's not so I think the draft lottery is the right thing thing would happen with the NBA with the Knicks getting third. Pick is the right idea do this in the NFL tanking is a problem and with Miami's doing also agree with this Guy Kaplan that it's not the same as baseball or basketball where they have an abundance of games every team in Major League Baseball is going to win sixteen games every team's GONNA lose sixty games at what happens with the other forty two wreck in the NFL you throw in this case if you've identified as your franchise quarterback and you believe he can change the future course of your franchise. I understand why they would they would try to lose and by the way I don't think they are telling guys to go out and not play hard. I just think they've got inferior tally rolling right and then they trade they traded minkah Fitzpatrick for nothing right and so. I think that if it were me I would I would Adina incentivize losing. You can't have a team losing on purpose. I would do the lottery to start and I tell the dolphins if they keep doing this. We're GONNA take away draft pick well. I think you only do it once you again. I mean if you get your quarterback. You're out to win but we've seen teams have done it. It's not new oh colts did it yeah Conan and now Andrew Lecture Tire Yeah I know but they got great years out of grew year sauce check number fifteen the University of Central Florida at one twenty seven of its last it's twenty eight games until it ran into pit on Saturday losing thirty five thirty four and a trick played that they're calling the pitts special limo fact. UCF has the largest student wooden body of any university in the country. Really the University of Central Florida has over sixty six thousand students now. I've got a list of the next five in order next five largest student bodies after the University of Central Florida see if you can name them three strikes and you're out okay. Are they all big time schools. They'll conference schools. I would think that we're we're just talking right Miami. I would think would be one of those I think. Ucla might be one of them. Ucla in Arizona State both have almost forty thousand students. He said sixty six thousand dozen might do it. I think Michigan and Ohio state could be in there yeah matter of fact go by size of the stadium because they both Michigan Supreme Save. Guess conundrums hard to get into. I think Michigan's a pretty safe because what do you think about Michigan. I like Chaigneau for one for one have we have we mentioned one. You mentioned we mentioned think. Miami might be one of them but over. Ucla you think more people go to Miami than UCLA. UCLA doesn't get a lot of people going to the actual games so what he's talking at that moment. UCLA is a public school right. Let's try. UCLA UCLA no all right got forty four thousand students so it's more than that. Can we have hints now since we city city mentioned when we can we mentioned we mentioned Arizona State and we mentioned Miami so Arizona State. I can see the problem. They'll take anybody yeah so you mentioned you mentioned one of the minutes not. Arizona State is not Ohio State. Yes it is okay. Yes all right okay so it's obviously not Miami. Two schools in Texas University diversity of Texas would be one anniversary of Texas number five fifty one thousand students tech. Maybe I think it might be SMU yeah and number two sixty four thousand students so you've got numbers two three and we we don't four and five you need four and five okay what part of the country let's go north. South East or West. Sec most crazy football ball state in the country so am I yeah well. It's got to be maybe Tennessee football career now go south go. South University Zia Florida University of Florida University Florida fifty three thousand people. The last one is Michael Thompsons. All modern innocent Minnesota really really yeah yeah number four. They have fifty two thousand students wow so they never would have guessed so. The order is university center for Texas A. and M. Ohio State University. I see Florida University of Minnesota University of Texas. Those are your five fast track all right Albert breer from Monday morning. quarterback says that the Patriots it's deserve to be criticized for even trying to sign Antonio Brown they of course ended up cutting Brown on Friday. Here's what breer wrote over the weekend quote. The Patriots may not have known that Brittany Taylor's lawsuit was coming but they did have an idea of who they were climbing into bed with that much we know because because the rest of the NFL was aware of it to those in charge in Foxborough from Robert Kraft Bill Bell check on down. The line have too much experience with these sorts of things to not be aware of the risk that comes with this type of acquisition. If this were the steelers of the raiders over the last thirteen days we would absolutely be annihilating them for this and just because the Patriots will probably get away with this in the standings doesn't mean they should be exempt from criticism in quote. I actually disagree disagree with the Patriots rolled the dice and it didn't work. They're still probably going to the Super Bowl. They might win it. What did they lose here. They kept Brown as long as they could and when it became too much they cut it. I don't think he's saying they lost Chris Paul perspect- do you think they believe they. You deserve to be criticized for signing him. Yeah I do. Why do I thought he should have been in the Commissioner's exempt list. I thought there was plenty of evidence by the way after that sports illustrated article I I would I would absolutely cut him after that sports illustrated. There's just too much. There are too many different incidents and there's no way I think the league knew more about what was going on with Antonio Brown than anybody let on. I don't think any of this stuff came as a surprise. I I think they were trying to get him in because he's wildly talented and I think that the Patriots have always taking their chances with ethically challenged players there's right and but they win in spite of it they can criticize them. For what do you think they deserve to be criticized no none at the time mm-hmm because it just wasn't enough evidence going into it and then once it actually came out then yes like. I actually think round deserve to be criticized for signing Kareem Hunt after nine audio me toward more than Antonio Brown beans patriots. I've been highly critical the browns for doing that so I guess it depends the fact that they got rid of them. I I think it just became too much to deal with and they cut bait. Yeah I mean all the time in sports anybody the red that sports illustrated piece there was just so much going on with Antonio Brown. Stay with football is what finally I think drove them to cut ties was when Brown tweeted at that woman the woman or or boy sports illustrated article about we're going to go get her. We're going to go out and get out and find some dirt and included a photo of her family right. I just think they they said Oh he doesn't get it no and then fairly craft said if I'm gonNA float phone under the radar after he signed with the Patriots and not responded to any of it. I think he might still be there. I don't think we look at the New England patriots as the most ethical organization in sports the opposite of winning above everything and and their ethics I the Washington Post reported that Amtrak is reinventing its dining service on long distance trains killing the traditional dining card hard to create more flexible and contemporary dining options. The carrier says the change starting this fall is driven by the desire to save money and to lure a younger generation nation of new riders chiefly millennials known to be always on the run glued to their phones not particularly breaking bread with strangers at a communal table. Well what does this say about millennials in their social skills and are there some bygone traditions that you miss first of all what it says about millennials in their social skills. This is just how they communicate. I've been to restaurants. I told the story earlier this year and has a dodger game and is there with my son and another dad and his son and we we sat behind four attractive millennial girls. Yep and they did not stop taking pictures with their phones right entire game. I mean mean like every half inning. They were take two hundred pictures right and that's just how they do things. They're interested in getting stuff to promote their instagram program. So it's just kind of the world. They live in and in terms of traditions. I like I'll I'll tell you my browsing in a library. I burry or a bookstore probably not hey think that was a great experience. You would go books. I would still do it. I don't. I don't even know if there are are still bookstores. There's one there's one in my neighbor bookstores I. I don't even know they're they're. They're they're heading. The way of record stores library was something that was actually really cool experience. I don't think people go to the line. I was thinking about in that regard thinking about how much time you spent in the library when you were in college. Do kids go to the library anymore in colleges absolutely SELENA. UCLA when I was there had eleven libraries down to like one now. I don't even know I've I've a library right down the street from me and it's almost a what would you what you would. You can get anything off Google. Yeah you get any google. You have a kindle that you can get any book that you want off of just type in whatever you want. I there's low interest the research library. There's there is none anymore. I think the so our college campus libraries I I oh I don't know I'm guessing. You don't either no they do. They still exist are those building something else now have to still exist at UCLA. The two biggest libraries were how how library you are L. The University Research Library where you could go and find anything and then they had tons of desk where you could go steady and right and get ready for finals finals. I'm guessing those don't exist anymore. I you know what I can't imagine. I lived in the library. When I was going to get your probably like me you. You didn't pay a lot of attention for seven weeks and when the final came up you need to track and I lived in a fraternity house which was loud all the time you guys libraries of tests. I finally did not and I don't believe in test file a great support. A rule is if you took a test. Ucla you saved the test and then when you got home back to the fraternity. Ask You put it in the test file. So if somebody else had that class in the next quarter I you could say I don't know if they're gonNA use the exact same tests but if they do here it is out. It's called cheating that is called home fielded Van Greg. Do you think that's cheating. I think the professor it's on the professor to change the test test however yes you're cheating. You're the answer is no attacked basically buying exactly if the teacher asks he goes if the teacher said I want this test back. I always gave it back and if he didn't I always put my backpack and putting the somebody else I put in the test flat by you. You have you have some. You've a blind spot on this whole thing like. Did you let people copy off your never copied off of anyone. You let if you would've had to me and said hired yeah. Let me see number seven mile stretch yeah you're you're very slow you down this way and by the way one that argument once when a teacher saw a guy spying on my paper and I came over and he grabbed mine in his because you guys both come with me and he said we're giving him answers. I said I leaned back when he looked over at my paper. I know all those and I can prove it right now. Asked me any question on that test yeah but the other kid add to get busted he did but the teacher okay and he asked me like number fourteen. I read it off. He goes okay. Go Finish Finish and then this you come with me right so I knew the stuff. That's all the teacher cares about this. I even know the material that you are facilitating cheating. I'm helping I'm. I'm not a SNITCH. I'm helping I. I was doing my fellow student services. A test file is cheating. The test file is excellent. We had the best yes while on campus. It's fast track fasttrack in two minutes Mason in Ireland. ESPN LA yeah that's a good idea all right. We're doing some behind the scenes stuff fasttrack rolling on Ireland whilst we've talked in the past about ticket scalping and how a lot of bands would love to stop yes. Did you hear about this Friday night. At the Wilton theaters the black keys yeah all right so the black keys tried to do something about this with very mixed results hundreds of ticket get holding fans were turned away from their first headlining show in five years some after waiting in line for hours when they're electronic tickets were rejected did by scanners at the inside lobby entrance to the Wilton at the band's behest ticketmaster head turned on a system that is is able to differentiate tickets on the original purchasers mobile device from those that had been transferred from one phone to another via third party resellers. There's or for any other reason so statements from the band and ticketmaster insisted that admission had always been billed as non transferable from the Gecko go as part of a designed to thwart scalpers and keep the bargain basement twenty five dollar tickets limited to true fans. The problem is the STUBHUB seatgeek and other ticket brokers never passed on those details so was a disaster when people showed up tickets that they bought the secondary market. Many people were stranded and took to social media to hammer the band. Should the black keys be praised or criticized for what what they did Friday. I honestly think they should be praised. The twenty five dollar tickets for fans. It was clearly clearly early because I'm a huge black keys fan clearly designated that they were not transferable that they would not be honoured if sold on the secondary market and Stubhub Bob Hob and and what else ticketmaster and all these secondary sites sold them anyway. I think the liability is on stubhub and ticketmaster. Mr And all of those ticketmaster was in bed with the black keys ticketmaster apply see Keith those those are the guys that are liable well. It's interesting and you you focused on that. Anybody who bought their tickets on stub hub complaint said hey these didn't work stubhub honored all all of those tickets and gave them refunds and one hundred dollar credit so stubhub actually agree with you. I think what the black he's had to do here. I admire what they're trying but what you had to do then was hire people at the Wilton as soon as people started lining up the thing that caught me but that story was some fans lined up for hours has no pictures of kids crying and people that you had to line up in the minute. They lined up. Did you buy your tickets from either ticketmaster or the black keys website. No we got him and stop. They won't work go right. I think you had to bend over backwards to make make this point and they didn't do that. I guess I would say secondary level of manage right where you would go to. I'm I'm so I think they deserve some criticism for letting people wait in line because most people think about it you and I are tickets knobs correct. We will rarely buy tickets. It's from ticketmaster on the original cell. We'll go to a broker all go to Guy Harris reisner right. VIP you'll go to step up and we'll will by secondary tickets but we we always think they're going to be honored and they always have been if they're gonNA try and change. The paradigm change the way and that's what they WANNA do. They want to protect that twenty five dollar ticket right then I think they gotta bend over backwards to explain to people including people that start to lineup hours for the show. Hey where'd you buy your ticket all right go home. It's not GonNa be honored and we've been telling people that I think it's very honorable on the part of the band to say you know what you're a real fan. Twenty five dollars is what it costs to see an intimate concert with Gregg. You think the Black Easter served to be praised or criticized criticized I don't I don't agree with either one of you on this. I don't understand why you're not a real fan if you went to Stub I don't understand why if you if you bought me a ticket and in funchess made this point if you bought me a ticket Mason and then and transferred it over to me to my phone and I'm and I'm a real fan of the black keys. I can't use that because it was transferred. Well good example this. Is You hooked up. Greg for world series tickets one of the last two years. You would not have been allowed to do that if adopted that doesn't make me not real recovery. They're right but I'm just saying blacker. Your point that the black keys intentions were is not wrong. Your Point Greg that the the execution was awful is is also correct you. If you're GONNA do that you have to bend over backwards to lecture people know you had to buy our website or off at ticketmaster and if you don't that's why I think stubhub is a way of life. Now everybody goes there and that's why by the way I think stubs honoring all these even though they they have to even though they really didn't and do anything no. They misrepresented the tickets. Who are the black keys to say like oh. We're GONNA take down stub their show. They're not trying to protect their own fats. Their fans can have an affordable ticket to see them because most way five dollars they were selling for five hundred bucks. A lot of people can't afford award five hundred bucks to go see a concert no of course not so those twenty five dollar ticket method but mace. I'm a free market guy if the free market drives that price up to five hundred and you and I I want to pay it. We should be able right but I'm for free market if the band says the tickets are twenty five. They're suppressing the Fremont twenty five dollars. The thing that's weird is once I'd ticket ticket sales for five hundred bucks that twenty five dollar tickets. They don't get any of that four seventy five incorrect so complicated. I think their intentions were good. They could've executed better. We'll see where it goes from here. I'll see if they do seem more similar news. Helicopters over the wheelchair was the lead story on all the local newscasts. I think nobody came out of this looking good and by the way I you know when when I wanNA see about like for example Mumford and sons yeah I waited online to get my Mumford and sons tickets because I'm a huge fan and I want a great seats. I didn't go to the secondary market where the tickets got really really expensive. I wanted the seats I know the Lakers are adamant about saying thing. If you want to buy our tickets go to the Lakers ticket exchange the only one we backup guarantee. You'll get in and do it that way so the. NBA is trying to be progressive STUBHUB ticketmaster Secondary Mar the you can get laker tickets on all those places. The Lakers are driving people to the LAKER ticket exchange in warning them that if you don't go there they can't be responsible for it. Happens fast track right. Halloween is approaching and soon you'll be buying Halloween candy. Yes it's kind of candy. A resident hands out to trick or treaters says a lot about on a Saturday afternoon radio anchor Liz do wiki posed a simple question about candy. She shared a photo of six different popular chocolate candies. She said it's a Sophie's choice. You have to get rid of one and you have to choose the best. Okay okay so here. They are snickers. Milky Way Amenemhat kit cats releases aces and twix snickers Milky Way eminem's kid cats recess and twix okay. Which one do you get rid of all right. I WANNA I WANNA treat this question with the seriousness it deserves. It's get rid of Milky Milky Way because the the Milky Way compared to a snickers present Milky Way. This one wanted to get rid of right now the same now it is as to which I would keep all right. I think Kit Kat and twix cancel each other very good point. They're both cookie candy so you can't really pick one over the. They're both excellent so they're both at regular. EMINEM's are good but they're not in the class of snickers or recess so it's a two horse race good snickers and reese's peanut by the way you and I see this identically. Let's see the same finally. Snickers bar is good but a racist peanut. Butter Cup is great and you get two of them. I'm keeping the reese's peanut Butter Cup so I go reese's peanut. Butter Cup one snickers to and the twix three forty one regular names five in Milky Way six there you go. I am in complete agreement. The reese's is the obvious choice differentiator number two. No REECE's are the best candy chocolate candy that has the peanut butter and chocolate mixture is perfect well a hundred grand bars ars. The best trained bar ever races as readily available. That's true hundred they're very difficult to find trudell whenever he finds when bice too and gives me the extra you are you one one of the people that you've got big candy and Small Candy and when you see somebody that's one of your favored neighbors. You give them a vague nope famer. Where's lines favored neighbors get to take as big of a grasp out of the Bulls anyone else. I don't know you I will take Katie out of the ball and place it bar in each one but if you live on West on my street but if you if you live on my street yes you get unlimited candy. There are are no restrictions you coming in from the outside. If you're foreigner yeah one candy bar can people get in from the outside. We let a few people yeah you yeah. You GotTa know somebody I like to Trudell kids are in are they over there in charge me Bergman whispering Riley overseas in there. Hey thank you and by the way a lot of big givers in in the village. I know that's a long drive but it might be worth it for her. My son does not like he collects so much Halloween candy and then gives it away. That'd be Candy Kid. Not It's always nice you know. Were here during all that by the way I have a game on Halloween night. Netanyahu me and Mason here and we can't get to I think I'm in Portland or something I eddie trick or treat or at my house like it that no I I would. I have candy every year for some kids that come on you know that Michael Thompson refuses refuses to answer the door he halloween. He's that Guy Julie will sometimes for candy outside the front door and Michael says once it's gone. It's gone get lost kids and yeah all right. funches put sixty seconds on the clock mace. Yes the fall TV. Season starts up this week. Yes I have a a list of twenty q sitcom stars people that were made stars by appearing on TV show. I'm going to describe him. Let's Theon many we can get. We have sixty seconds are all time record in the birthday game which is comparable. This is twenty two. Let's see if we can get there. I ready Yup all right here. We go hot girl. Roland friends played Rachel Jennifer Aniston Frasier Kelsey grammer opie on the Ingraham. Show Ritchie Cunningham veep list. RV Drivers Hawkeye Mash Allen of fresh prince of bel-air. Will Smith Star Thirty Female SNL Tina fey cartoon a tune character homer and Marge's son Bart Simpson Sam Malone on cures all right Laverne from the Vernon sure on Penny Marshall Cliff huxtable Jay Bilas Star the office Steve Carell Good Mary Dizzy Arnez. I love this is John. Goodman is her husband channel for TV. All right star two and a half men Martin son Charles Charlie Sheen okay opie Cunningham's dad don knotts and Jimmy Dunn. The Star of the show the blank show Andy Griffith Sixteen Sixteen Sixteen and took longer than take a long time all right so here's the other ones short guy with Schwarzenegger on twins was on tax veto Alex Keaton from family ties Michael J. Fox Arthur funds early the funds Allen and Allen Henry Henry Henry Winkler Star of his own show with Kramer Elaine and George Jerry Seinfeld. Lou Grant was her boss. Mary Retired and dad on Malcolm in the Middle Heisenberg Brian Okay so we only got six zero there but I really stumbled on ener terrific you. We're really slowing a clue to can't remember which one but Andy Griffith I. I'm trying to better way to do that and be I should say and be Su said Nat lock yeah that too all right. Let's see I've got a game. Do you WANNA hold it and play next. We also have the of the Bova game. Oh with the BEVANDA game okay. We'll do the game right. You got your game now all right here we go Let's see this game is called. What's this APP. I have got a description of an APP that may or may not be real. What's happening. Is the name of the Game Okay Number One. We keep squaw. I got it. You Got a Chore Pad. It's an easy fun way to we get kids involved with housework. It uses sound animation and a reward system to stimulate excitement. You can also customize chores for each family member based based on their ability that is a real APP at has to be if it's not it should be realized you guys are all correct that as a real APP and one that John you purchase tonight Commerce seducer for couples having difficulties in the bedroom this APP it helps unlock inhibitions through meditative exercises akin to the teaching of the Commerce Sutra. Is that Greg real or fake. Hey I'm going to say that as a real one real real real John. It sounds real but I got a chance to make up some ground here. I'll go fake. You are correct. I made that one two-to-one happen by this is for gamers suffering from depression anxiety things I eighty or any other mental or emotional affliction you could mark your progress on a personalized happiness tracker that includes guided meditation and relaxation lactation. Is that real or did I make it up five inch bake. I think it's fake. I got a chance to get close. I'll say it's real one hundred percent real ratify. asset is Real Berman airtight at to all right e story. This APP allows parents to tell their kids a story without even being in the room. East story has catalogued hundreds of children's books. You leave your phone on the pillow and your kids room and calming voice reads them one of the stories race. Is that real or did I make it if if you made this up I am going to patent it tonight. That is a brilliant parenting tool. I gotta be real garbage poor parenting tool but it's real. I Bet I as fake. Michael funchess's correct asked by the way. It's a good hat in that to your kid all it's to to to yeah all right. Let's go with date fly. This is an APP like tinder but specifically for people who want to hook up photos of everyone from the opposite sex. They're looking to hook up along with their exact distance. They are away from the user appear on the screen date fly. Is that real or did. I make it up Bergman. That is just tinder so I think you made it up yeah. I think it's fake. It's it's a potential. I think Bergman's on it. It's real is I have in a relationship. Thank you told by the way that is the by the way that's what grinder looks like all right down three two to all right how many left three more okay blow and go. This is an APP that works by attaching a small Ostrov device to your phone you blow into the Straw and it tells you your blood alcohol level. Is that real or did I make it up. That has to be fake. I I think it's real greg break the tie. I just don't see how it could work but I think it's real. It is made such funches. Take silly four three two pet connector. This APP helps match dogs with their perfect made through a network of nationwide shelters. It also offers international options for those looking to adopt rare and indigenous breeds. You can upload pictures and videos of a pet that you like and the APP makes all of the arrangements for transport. Is that real real or did. I make it up. Pet owners are pretty crazy. I think it's real real real real yeah. I made well done making tonight. Okay so this last one last everyone's in it funchess's for Greg S. three. I have two so you go first and we go counter clockwise. Go Zumbado. This is available in twenty. Two Countries D'Amato makes it easy to discover new places to dine. It's restaurant listings provide indepth reviews entire menus photos of the decor and dishes and the typical cost of a meal for two in order to further filter your search results assaults. You can choose whether you want dine in delivery or have takeaway. Is that real or dynamic. That's real. I think I've been on it before Greg. The only way can win is to go fake. I cannot win so I'll just say what I think it is. I think you made it up. That is one hundred percent real funchess. Wins is real nice job. Fund doesn't win a lot of games around here one hundred one. I all right coming up next Bergman has updated odds on who will win the NBA Championship Mason. I have not seen them but but they've just been released so we'll go over those next Mason and Ireland. ESPN LA it's so earlier today on the jump. Rachel Nichols was talking to Jackie macmullan Alan and to Brian Win and they were making the case that the clipper roster is going to cause problems for the Lakers. Here's what they said head better team well. They are and start with the fact defensively. WHO's GonNa who who's going to score against Los Angeles Clippers. I mean it's it's incredible and the Lakers are going to be a work in progress. The truth Kawhi Leonard is so much easier to plug in to any lineup then Anthony Davis you have to learn to work around Anthony Davis who by the way has to at the same time learn to work around a guy named Lebron James. That's a lot more complicated than taking Kuwait Leonard who skillset has just proven to be you just plug him in almost it's anywhere and he's going to be fine he just he just blends right into what they're doing and I would say the same thing about Paul George whenever you add a big especially in today's NBA and that is still would Anthony Anthony Davis is big. You have to learn to play with him. I just don't feel the same way about in the clippers. I mean I think the defensive flip of that same thing you're talking about. Yes defensively who's going to score on the clippers. Defensively who are the Lakers using. Stop guys on the perimeter how workout God bless West Danny Green but he can't be in six places at once so I can't play a lot of minutes either you gotta load manage and Kuzma and Lebron defensively last year. I'm sorry they were not acceptable all right so my counter to that would be yep. They say you know who's GonNa who's go right who and the Clippers is guarding Anthony Anthony Davis. That's just not possible. They do not have a piece on their end. Let's say I guard Lebron right all right. He'll be able to shut them down. Sometimes not all the time but let's say quite as a really good job on the Bright Anthony Davis had a forty six point game against the clippers last year when they tried to guard him with Mantras hair and Mantras Herald Beats Zoo bots. They're bigs. I have no chance against Anthony Davis. The wing defense is definitely a question mark with the Lakers beyond Danny Green. That's why you know one of the things to keep an eye on is Andrei dollar would be an unbelievable fit. He's not in camp as the grizzlies look to trade him. The question is do the Lakers have any pieces that they can use to make that trade it may it may take until after December fifteenth for that you'll be done but he would be an additional wing defender. That would make a huge difference for him. Zach Lowe who was on Howard Beck's podcast this week he said quote. I think people are sleeping in the Lakers. I think they're just going to be really good and because they're the Lakers they're easy to make fun of but I think the Lakers are going to be awesome yeah and and so I guess it's in the eye of the beholder but I'm surprised Jackie didn't bring up the question she said how the Lakers going to score against the clippers three. Give the ball to Anthony Davis and make the defendant and last year. They couldn't do it YEP SO I. I think it's by the way first preseason game week from Saturday right coming. Clippers Lakers one a one B yep mean in off flip. We'll see what it looks like on the floor but I think it's possible that the that the Lakers are the better team and as you as we mentioned in Vegas the betting favorites now to win the NBA title yeah they have two of the best five players in the NBA Yup. I mean come on all right coming up sodano getting here. We'll do a little purgatory mason and Ireland. ESPN LA that is that's pre-alliance. Keep playing that when when we come back every day I'm like let's let's freshman that stuff yeah well you notice. Morales isn't around very much anymore. He's not once later in the day. Well could be gets five in the morning to hang around for when I was doing the show he would hang around. I think it's something against you guys. I gotta be honest. He's just exhausted. Yes around before all the sudden. Now we know we were on from twelve years around Georgia. Show the whole thing was mostly really mad at so you should take umbrage with that is not as invested in Mason in Ireland as he should be correct. It is the number one sport show in Los Angeles for many many years. Yes US yeah I'm with you. I believe that Chris Paralysis. The production director of this station needs to come to the realization and step up that this show also requires attention correct. Yes correct. I A hundred percent agree yeah so George. He's you're listening to Caspian. Sent me the nastiest text I already see now. He's not listening. He sees it happy hour. Here's everything does here's everything yeah interesting do you think he walks around with headphones on he may he may he's got. He's got ears yeah so we were just talking about this. Your work a lot in the jump that Jackie macmullan in windhorst think the clippers letters in the league yeah that's true yes. Clippers are better than the Lakers. That's perfectly valid opinions. They asked the question today they said Jackie said how are the Lakers GonNa score against the clippers yeah yesterday it was. I would say because they have Anthony Davis Service and the clippers don't have anyone who can guard him last year. When he was playing for the Pelicans he dropped forty six on when they tried to guard him with mantras errol who guards Anthony Davis. I would say this and again. I haven't talked to Jackie about this. Even though I did briefly run into her yesterday I would say a and maybe this is what she would say too is that I will take my hi chances with a big trying to beat me over a perimeter player and maybe that's what she I know but that's that's the tact that I would take in that scenario. I wonder I think the coverage defensively especially in the perimeter are going to be with Patrick Beverley and Paul George when they get everybody healthy. You're going to be one of the best defensive teams if not yes best offensive team in the League yes but they're interior defense within you know deandre. Jordan is not there anymore. I mean it's not like they have a shot blocker down there and I I think if you go back and look at that game last year where Davis drop forty six on them and at Sixteen rebounds you would see that's how you beat them. You just posted up and go to work and so even if Lebron is guarded by WHO's an excellent defender. There's not a lot of guys in guard Lebron one on one nine even Kawai for a whole but they can throw him in Paul George Adam look. I do think that if Anthony Davis Lebron healthy that they're going to be virtually impossible to stop but I do think that the clippers could be the best equipped to try to stop Lebron which is the head of the snake in that particular situation because he's GonNa need to initiate the offense and I I've said this for weeks. I'm Andrea Gonzala will swing the balance of power. I think in a lot of ways because if he ends up with the Lakers clearly they need another perimeter talk about that because I I don't so they're keeping them fresh for the trade market right yeah. He doesn't want to be bought. Why bring him into camp like he's going to be part of the team but the Lakers and I'm saying this John's not the Lakers. I can't see quite how a deal works for the Lakers terms of assets right. I don't think they've got that and and the clippers you know you can say what you want about Landry. Shamet but he's at least an asset right like he's a young player on cost control contract. That's been pretty good yeah and maybe Memphis may be able to get better than that anyway I think but it also depends on where he's going to dictate part of where he wants to go to. I don't think that he's GonNa WanNa go to just any team. He's GonNa WanNa contender and I think there are four teams. I would identify as teams that could both use Andrea Dolla and teams that would be contenders in the western conference the to L. A. Teams the Houston Rockets and the Denver Nuggets and I think those are the four teams that he could potentially help swing the balance of power in in one way shape or form. I think more more so with the Lakers and clippers than he can with the other two but I think he can put those other two in a different category than than they were previously right. I said well the rockets signed Topo. Cephalonia said something or nothing. He's okay and other bodies play yeah. It's just another. He's old at this stage. He's not the player defender forever yeah. I mean he's fine. It's just another body to throw out there like you know. Mike you know this John as well as anyone. His rotations are short Georgia's. They come right so even in the regular season so I you know the Sefolosha get a few minutes here there. Maybe yeah I just got a note on The Sunday night rams game yeah beat the EMMYS locally beat the case and that was the second best Sunday night football rating in Los Angeles in the last five years. The only one that was better was the eagles Ram Sunday the Ramle Yeah Yeah in every game now has been over thirty one share in Los Ange- that's awesome people into them. They're they are now. Look they needed. They got to the Super Bowl and now they've got people's attention. By the way I watched both the ram game and the emmys. I taped the EMMYS. The Ram game was way better game was wasn't that good I mean I thought the funny bit was was Kimmel Colbert doing the hosting yeah. I thought that was funny but I didn't think the rest of it was all that good. I watched it back afterwards too yeah. I watched it back afterwards. I thought I mean I mean I like an award. Show me to you know I like. I knew I knew Bryan. CRANSTON was going to be there. Seattle tune in for that and you should celebrate that Moore. He's your boy. Oy like for real he's. I don't know if I would describe them as easy boy boy. He's your boy yeah. I don't know yeah I don't know about that. Did you watch. Have you watched fleabag yet. I have one every single. You nailed that before anyone for any. You've got to check it out. You're you're you may be in the League urine the circle yeah my mom tried tried watching it. She said too dirty for oh too dirty so funny story that you say that. I love South Park. Yeah Okay I watch I you can find me in a rabbit hole of south park on comedy central because they run it really late and they'll run like episodes from years ago and it's hilarious and they did one on the Washington redskins a couple of years ago where Cartman was able to take their name from them. Yeah and I thought it was one of the funniest episodes I've ever seen and I was. I was trying to show my wife and my mother in law was there right and my mother-in-law is basically a a sitcom mom yeah so she was like Heavens to betsy even though she wouldn't say it you can just see it in her face. Because this was one of the raunchiest she was very dicey now. She wasn't offended but you can just tell she was like Whoa. I can't believe cartoons could say that right yeah so so I get it yeah no she. My mom doesn't offend easily but this isn't especially offensive start to a series yeah. Did you watch first episode. you didn't watch the first episode episode of tried flee back. I did. I didn't really take you remember. The first episode happened like the filthiest beginning to a show ever yeah yeah. I normally respond well to that. I for whatever reason maybe left like. Give it my undivided attention. I was probably like folding laundry or something but I thought it was just okay. No that's not easy to watch the show. You know what I am folding laundry. I'm a big laundry at George. My wife doesn't touch on all the laundry all of all of it wow she does not go near you full to all of it because that's usually. I draw the line at folding. I'll wash well. I'm not a full say this. I fold my own laundry. TAKERS OCCURS AND DUMP it into a big clean basket right where she'll do it. Are you a folder. I am not a folder and I'm. I'm not a washer either. I hate to admit that I'm kind of added both of them. I'm a dishwasher. Oh okay see I don't do that. Issues dishes are my thing yeah yeah. Do you actually wash dishes or putting them in the dish. Well I actually I do both doesn't make sense. I wash ran then. Put them in the dishwasher. They supposed to put the a little bit of the film in the dirt in the dishwasher. Is that what they say. That's good for it. I don't know I have no idea of no dishwasher. Maybe someone in the audience could tweet us and find. I I find exactly yeah Did you see the foot. I did see the foot. Yes I noticed that yesterday. I forgot to bring it up. During what is the status of your Fasciitis Leaner lanre fasciitis yeah and I've got to get rid of this thing because the baseball playoff start next week all yeah and so I'm going to be humping around following the dodgers all over the okay so are are you doing that again. Yes now like from series one. No I'll go to the world series and I'll go to all the home games and then the world's right right right but next. Thursday is a really difficult choice because you've got dodgers at home game one. LDS right and rams at Seattle at the same time. Oh that's a big night. It is no oh scenario then. I know Mason and Ireland shows. We all got it off yeah yeah but the question is. I'm going to have to hope that they've got the game on TV at the dodgers game got the transistor radio to radio boom got old guy transistor radio be that guy you know when you go to a baseball game and there's always one guy yeah listening to the game simultaneous you. That's me you're going to be that. It'd be listen to the radio listening while you're there you go yeah then see transistor missile radio very underrated man well. We're GONNA get one just Amazon Amazon yeah. We're running commercials. Have you heard the commercials because they say obviously an earthquake like you what that translates radio well when the big earthquake hit the northridge quake didn't ever radio yeah that was. I think it was that pre cell cell phone or is not Prieto Nonni. I was first cell phone ninety six. It's a brick the brick around ninety four. I did not have a cell phone. My wife is from north. All the electricity went out really. How'd you meet her. Show when I worked at Fox sports radio she worked in the premier building worked adventurous radio in L. A. and I worked with Greg Yeah Yeah. She was right behind us. Yes you'RE GONNA wind. That's how Jim Rome his wife. MOM's wife Janet saved saved Mason and I once we were Mason and I did a promotion yet. We completely made up on our own and we didn't involve the station at all. Those are the best one and we said a great. We said we're. GonNa do a scavenger hunt the chargers were playing the Working San Diego chargers steelers and we're going to come up with a list of ten atoms yeah and if you can come up with ten items will give you airfare and two tickets to the AFC championship goal while and the bit was this is the Stan Humphries we may yes and we made we made the SCAVENGER list impossible. There was no way anyone things like a Clark bar which by its case a six pack of iron city beer which was only sold in Pittsburgh vintage bobby Vinton album Bob and the next day. We're doing morning show next to work six in the morning. There's one hundred and fifty people in the parking lot with ten and we were like okay. Let's do a drawing and we basically did a drawing. We said we put your name in and we did it and there were people tation. Were so mad at us because okay we've got to fire. Those guys Janet goes. What are you talking about. This idea is brilliant not firing those guys right anybody who fires them. Come see see me because she was in charge of human resources and she totally stood up for us and kept us from getting five. Shouldn't she's now Janet Rome. We should do another. Do another scavenger hunt. We the off the books. Nobody sees a common yeah promotion like that and see if we survive it. Let's do it. I don't think I find seven o'clock tomorrow night until seven o'clock. It is GonNa get very very dangerous on this radio and and I'm fired you will be willing an extra hour. Come on there's nothing you guys can do anymore. They'll get your fire now that that back then almost legitimately now they'd get behind those who would not get fired. I would allow scooter. Libby would get five to work with red. Read was their time. He knew how to produce. I mean he was that was literally his first job Z. Did he hate everyone back. Then he was so nice back then was amazing Mason. He hates everything he was so like wide eyed and bushy tailed and we're just like what else can I do. You know what I mean later Nicole. I've been in radio for seventeen years. He was Nice Kid. Akwa radio does it does it. Does it makes you cynical dog ears to yeah yeah all right. That's the end of purgatory chapter one purgatory chapter two's coming up next Mason Ireland and Sodano. ESPN LA hey reminder go see my guy matt unger the GM Alexa Santa Monica Toyota Santa Monica. Matt has deals at both dealerships. How about this September at Toyota's Santa Monica you can lease the all-new two thousand nine hundred electric. 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Let's take a look at the Lakers. Lakers and let's see so my guess this is that it's going to be clippers because they'll tell you the starting price on these things. I would imagine to that just the The star power in that game with with Anthony Davis Paul George Collide Leonard. All being in uniform with their teams for the first time is going to have a big effect on it so and then they play on two pretty big days opening ignite and Christmas Day yeah I mean actually you can get into the home opener for two hundred eight dollars. The end of the top opt to the top deck. You're saying the clippers the Clippers Lake Lakers. I'm looking at it here. That's the clippers home game. No Clippers home game on seeks to forty. One is the lowest price. Actually we thirty two zero eight so that's a clippers the opening night super home game yeah so the Laker game the league he must be on Christmas Day with the Christmas Day game is and that's GonNa be. That's GonNa Paul George in it. No yeah it is it is and the lowest price right there for that ticket the Christmas days three thirty two right now so it's a hundred bucks more just because it's a Laker home yeah interesting. I always tell people go laker home games. LAKER Games are inexperience. Clipper Games is are a little more like an amusement park. They got checked the condor throwing stuff into the stands and yeah you're not chuck the CONDO. You're not looking. Can You Jack Nicholson Dustin Hoffman in Denzel and all those burdens. It's a different experience. Penny Marshall Back in the day Yeah Penny Marshall still a billy crystal crystal. I think I've got my first game is actually the Lakers home. Opener is sideline is Jazz Lakers. Oh Nice yeah but that's the Lakers acres homes yeah because it's not the first game staple center but their actual home opener boy. That's a good game yeah. You just going to be good this year. I think Mike Conley is going to add something to Utah that they you haven't had while Rubio was flashy but Mike Conley always make the right play and nine times out of ten he hits open jumpers radio didn't and he's just an Rubio's a great defender but colleagues just as good right. I think he's almost going to be perfect for that team. Yeah and they're very well coached by Quin Snyder and I George. I said the other day okay. I'm probably in the minority on this but I think Rudy Gobert and Nikolai Yokich are actually really even most people would say Yokich is way better. Go Berries so good defensively and impacts the game so much as a shot blocker that I think he's just as valuable as yoga. I would still take Yokich because I think you can play rudy off the floor potentially right offensively. They're not really comparable but defensively. They're not the best plan. I'd give me in today's. NBA NBA Gimme the guy who plays offense now. I just think that shot blockers like Gobert and is he would you say is the best shot blocker in the league. He's in the conference time Chun Defensive Player of the year right. He's in the conversation yeah so you've you've got and this is where the League's going but you have to shoot over Utah. You can't beat them going. I wanted the rim because they'll just block it right. He's actually so good. His strength I think is more about the hedge and depending defending the pick and roll and things like that. I think he's much better at that than most big men for sure. A great shot blocker is unbelievable. I so did you see the story that according to Jonathan Joanie and a bunch of other scout who's coming on the show today. Okay Nice. ISO- metal ball is now a top three pick in the draft could go one and if he goes one that would mean that would be manning ask that would mean he went one in Lonzo went to and all the crap Lavar taken over the years for being a blowhard and being done king all which is probably well deserved. You can't criticize what the results were if one of those kids goes number two and one goes one in the NBA draft yeah that's pretty amazing and he called it. He said that lamelo would be better than Lonzo yeah so so he did say that now it's interesting because the path of the two is completely different and I want to talk to Jonathan Cavani about that because he's been doing the draft analyst Ellis stuff for years you're so he was around when Lonzo was at. Ucla and Lavar was around and I want to kind of ask them to compare and contrast these experiences assist with Lavar specifically and just as an outsider not having spoken to him yet. My guess is you know look look at Lamelo. Already has an agent inherent mints that is you know the agent to a bunch of stars that wasn't the case with Lonzo like they wanted to micromanage Lonzo. They're not doing that with the mellow and in all these videos with Lamelo. He's an aunt even wearing those big baller branch. Nagy's yeah you can't really wear the big baller brand shoes. Lonzo said that they don't break the Brady brought four pairs when he had to where the the big baller brand because they would explode yeah so one for each quarter the Lamelo ball thing will be fast he he he's got a better shot than Lonzo does already and that that can go a long way in this league for sure the concert. I heard I heard Tony another another podcast and I'm GONNA. Ask Him about this specifically. He said the compuserve was Luca. Dodge really wow for lamelo Zakho to passer asser yeah and a better shooter and a better shooter like you know. He's a big point cards so it six or seven. They say he's six seven and definitely taller than Lonzo. Who's WHO's like well. He was always going to be the guy that was gonna be. The best of the three wasn't he. Lonzo was generally considered the best of the three for a long time and and he just grew into his body right. Lavar Lavar did say though very early on when mellow was fourteen or fifteen. He said that he would be the best but he also said Jello would be a great. NBA Shallow hello is now dealing with an injury and his basketball career doesn't look like it's going to take off where's He. He's I hurt his knee. Okay Yeah Yeah so he's if you're right though John if he gets to into the NBA draft that very hard to rip him then yeah I mean but again he's it seems like he's even learned because you don't undefeated never lost It's not the same when our sound guy know. What's interesting the hurlock just last year? Okay we had a game in Anaheim. Yep Yeah and yeah yeah. I remember and I took a picture this and was stunned by the longest line. Anywhere in the building was aligned to take a picture with Lavar ball not Lonzo Magin if if Lamelo Lamelo ends up with the Knicks yeah that is absolutely possible well that right now. I think the mock draft I saw the early mock draft draft him going number three to the name or the price. You don't know where the Knicks are because lots of possible because we know who the bad teams are going to be right. The Knicks are are going to be a bad team. The Wizards are going to be a bad teenage. Sons are going to be a bad team. Who else am I missing there. Who else is going to be just like a really terrible team. Next year. I the the not my desserts I said. Yeah okay the team. I don't know like how many wins. How many millions do the thunder get all. I think Chris Paul is GonNa have a good year. I think Chris Paul could be in Miami by December fifteenth. I think that's possible if the if the thunder give up picks because they're not right and they're not taking him just to to give up you mean if the heat give picks no no no no no the other way. Miami's GonNa want picks. Take on Chris Paul because of the Albatross contracts yeah yeah he widen what I thought. WHO's Miami's worse contract. What's their country. They'd love whiteside. You don't have another one not really I mean James Johnson. I guess and Dion waiters but it's not it crazy like twelve million or three million where to drag each end up dragages still Miami. He's an expiring deal. He never got traded because the mavs reneged on their deal on ah the night of free agency expiring contract changes everything then they'll wanna keep him because they can market that Yup but I would imagine that that's somebody Oklahoma City. Would you know they'd want as an expired. I'm sure but yet dragages easy to move. I think that you have to take on either. James Johnson Dion waiters in that situation which look I guess is worth worth it but the the Miami's absolutely GonNa want picks like there's are they a playoff team if they get Chris Paul Their playoff team right now John. They're like four or five seat in east in. He's really yeah absolutely you give Erik Spoelstra a top fifteen player last time he had that and wait was talking about Butler. Yeah weighed in twenty only sixteen. I don't believe was a top fifteen player anymore. I think maybe closer to twenty or twenty five and they want forty eight games and no way wade comes back to play with the I don't rule it out and here's why here here's okay so this is completely unsubstantiated aggregate him. I haven't spoken to Dwayne Wade but I heard through a third hand that Dwayne Wade has not picked his Jersey retirement game yet okay so just saying all right because it's him and Jimmy Butler and maybe crystal East what I say. Why not you love why not why not Mr y. 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Stick A Fork In The Sixers, Mild Stallions, Draft Lottery Predictions

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Stick A Fork In The Sixers, Mild Stallions, Draft Lottery Predictions

"Intel social distancing. Beer. In my my buddy, two times tony he can be six feet away. He can have to it doesn't matter. Morning Sweden role. Then welcome to podcast on the athletic network. It's Thursday August Twentieth Beautiful Day I'm Jay skeets, and joining us here live. Thanks to the power of technology task smells jared. Steinberg. We also got the beard one. Trey Kerby. An The international man of mystery take it to the Max Salil friend. Lily last but not least making the magic happen. Jd El. Al There is, and here we are well here I am right now can't wait to find out when my Internet craps so today. It's your birthday. It's not crapping out today Happy Birthday Ski Oh fixed big on your birthday does com- crap give you more with that? What happens? You're getting that big birthday band where you're. Unstoppable today. We'll see a long this last several everyone joining us live right now in the youtube comments, we see you guys keep sending in your questions and comments there and email amon for next week's beach step in email us no dunks, the athletic dot com or tweet at no Dunks Inc we are here with your playoff recap of day whatever it is in the playoffs I can't even keep track anymore I guess we're recapping d three of the playoffs we'll get to all four games actually gonNA start in the. Eastern Conference Today Gentlemen Yeah switching it up because we need to Well, at least start writing the Eulogy for the Twenty One thousand nine hundred seventy sixers, Jason Tatum scores thirty three points the Celtics destroy the seventy sixers. One, twenty, eight, one, one, a lot of blowouts actually sorta yesterday they take the two zero lead league, get started I'm sure you're going to zero in on the Philadelphia Seventy sixers who might be done already before this one even really get started well, you could look at this game. And go look the Boston Celtics. Great same in their three stars. Kemba. Walker. Jason Tatum Brown Wa incredible yesterday everything clicked for the Boston Celtics after a bit of a slow start. They just really put their foot down and it was a convincing win. That's one angle you could take or you could look at it from the angle inside the Philadelphia seventy. sixers have two games left this season. They are a complete disaster and where do they go for me? I think Brett Brown coaching his final two games. I think there's virtually no chance of him coming back and the Philadelphia Seventy sixers are mass right now because they've got Joel embiid is not going anywhere. They're gonNA keep him. He's a stop light but they've got alcohol on one hundred, million dollar contract and then they got to by Sarah Somewhat feels like a billion dollar contract and I don't know how they tried that I think they can tried Al Horford and get something back but you're going to take on that contract from Tobias Harris. That's a huge. White elephant I think right now. If you're the sixers, this is the season in quick enough. They were offer yesterday, Joel embiid early on the first couple possessions looked aggressive went inside and tried to school. Then he just Kinda got bored and Jeff Van Gundy excuse me Stan Van Gundy on the call saying like as he started sort of drifting out of the pint hitting those mid-range. Wigan live with those the celtics because he's not inside dominating and he hit a couple. But then that was basically all had this after that first quarter Boston just ruined this team completely utter domination and I really can't see six is even keeping this close for the final two games. Now, sweep it up. This thing is long over we talked about it in the seating games how this team wasn't on the same page from the beginning of the season games you're coming down here to the bubble you don't start off all that wellness eating games. Now, game two is almost a must win and they got destroyed in the hustle categories. They're just not on Saint Patriots evident that game was evident an emblematic of why Bay stunk on the road all season long seventeen to one. Second chance points fifteen four fast-break points. There's a play in the second quarter of Kemba Walker got pick up top standard pick and roll Joel Embiid sags back Kimble Walker takes a long jumper. It's a twenty foot jumper hits front rim, and it bounces and no sixer comes within feet of Kemba Walker strolls in grabs it rebound scores. That's the sixers in a nutshell right there. Joel embiid is as good as he has is extremely good. He's not leading this team I think that's evident now. You know he needs Ben Simmons out there. It's not a missing him. Yeah. And then there's a big drop off lead mentioned a few of the guys after him and Simmons they. They don't have a guy who's really stepping up into a two or three spot now that being said. Town. Aside, they're also just not hustling they just don't have it the they started in Orlando that way and they're going to finish in Orlando that way, and if they're not fighting in a must win game to DC them fighting in a game three or game four I doubt it I think it's over Yeah Trey you agree with that or they we're gonNA see the sixers already waving the white flag here. Do you have any faith in them to put up a little bit of a fight and plant harder at least like a Tattoo San? Maybe they'll put up a fight, but they're just not good enough to beat the Celtics I needed to see this game I I'd liked the sixers way too much this season and not like the Celtics enough and when you watch the first three quarters specifically year like how could you ever think that the sixers are a better team than the Celtics in this season To just watch it looks like they'd given up. You, know I've got some family in Boston so the group text is going up I said this might sweep and Steve Kirby hops and he says it is I trust that guy? because. The sixers. We asked for forty and twenty for Joel embiid. He got sort of close right thirty four and ten. He was scoring early and it looks like he peters out almost every single game and there's just no leadership. There is exactly right and then it's also super disappointing. If you look around rest of the playoffs, you see Marquel foltz having a good game for the magic you see Trey Burke contributing for the Dallas Mavericks you see Jimmy Butler takeover a game and win it for the Miami Heat all of those guys were on the sixers would they like to have maybe one person who can dribble the ball around and throw pass I? Think it would be helpful there are times. EMBIID with great post position Josh, Richardson with the ball of top looks like an easy pass in somehow it turns into a turnover. They don't know how to get the ball and beating the right places. He's not always in the right places. It's a disaster maybe they get a win, but there's no way they're advancing. Yeah. tweeted it beef while the game was going on last night this was far from over it was like actually a close game when I tweeted this but I said I fear for phillies mental makeup. If they go down to in a series when your leader is a shaky leader, let's call out. In Joel Embiid, you have no Dem Ben Simmons to help defensively your coach. As you said, Lee is a dead coach walking. He's gone. He's on the hot seat. So why are they really going to rally for him and you're in a damn bubble that's the other party here and I've said this before the playoffs started I'm curious these teams that get down to three. Oh. Will they have any fight in them or will they just go? Let's get the hell out of here I'm tired of fishing for the same fish I'm tired of this food I just WanNa go see my family we're not coming back and. Yeah. It would be betting on sweep right now one because the sixers. They can't play any defense. That's the crazy to me. We talked about a be nonstop, get the post, speed monster. Easily, all that work from you kick it out and all this everybody can train hit shots which they're struggling with but it's defensively like we thought this team and again, no Simmons I get. Defensive Type Player but still. Josh. Richardson. Al Horford impede. Their pieces where you're like, how is this not an elite defense to at least slow a grave celtics team down other wing guys and that's where it's like. They would the celtics would come down said a high pick and roll for whoever Kemba tatum getting going. And the Big Phil drops billing all just drop on back and it was just like guys stepping into wide open threes or jumpers or like in rhythm jumpers or threes is a better way to put it and it's like switch it up guys do something else I mean this it looked like those clips we see from like guys working out in the summer where they're like doing little fake drills like Oh there's a high pick and let me just step into it because there's no defense. That's what it looked likely yet. And this is the thing like we can talk all the Ben's they're missing Benzel we want but he's not the only good defender on that team. How often we always say one of the most underrated finished Josh Richardson brought in there to help pay a perimeter defender he's got those long and he moves his feet and Joel embiid. He's also considered at some point you know one of the. Candidates defensive play the. If he plays the he's a potential, but he doesn't really care on the on that development and you're talk about the half court sits in transition. It's even worse at once the Celtics get the rebound they know they've basically can just walk in and score score a bucket and he saw at one point the Jaylen Brown just throw down. That's that three sixty there, which was just kind of to me really just put the whole stamp what the series is all about. Can do whatever they want a narrator that point with I feel they can take these game anytime. They want Yeah Philadelphia coming into series I talked to one of the keys for them was if they can at least keep these games close and ugly and dirty, there are a chance because they have got embiid but then yesterday they weren't the Celtics are doing three sixty dunk. Also and also Daniel ties you know he was being bullied thereby and early and they bring in cancer and they can't is not a good defensive but kanter was putting in. He was put using his body and making things uncomfortable for embiid and I felt that embiid was of like really WanNa Bang with this guy so I'm just going to settle for the Mid Range jump shots, which again, he can hit them but that's not when he's at his best and most dominant you need him to just go inside and be a force inside and he wasn't doing that. So unless there's a huge change in their mental approach, Philadelphia's going to get absolutely blown off the floor and these last two games. And it doesn't hurt to me. It doesn't help their defense that Joel embiid is getting the ball every single time and is being focused on the offensive because he's not. He doesn't have a motor like that. It's just that's just the way it is. He's just big man who can't. Show on every pick and roll and get back. They always drop him and he can be motivated at times. But if you're asking him to to play every through him, every single possession is just not going to work. They're just they're going to look bad on defense that's part of it there that's. Usually when you look at like a Yoenis Valent at center or somebody even Rudy Gobert time somebody who doesn't guard well in space you know the guys who are just big and slow. That's that's the troublesome part of having a big giant at the five. We'll Joel embiid. Now that's what they're focusing on their saying he's not gonNA come show and they're going to drop back and we have open shots and let's just move the thing and they're dead I just it's just unfortunate to see effort not just you know not just. Defensively but like fast-break. Rebounding a lot of categories. So yeah, they need their home court home crowd courts and motivate them. That was the tuition all. Something they need. They need outside motivation. That's why they're bad row team and a good homecourt team all season long and these conditions are not so good for them. They're just not a cohesive unit. They're definitely not he said going fishing I could see them going fishing a lot because that's a solo activity I. I don't see them at the dinner table at at at the crappy lunch spot where all they have is case it is just put some cheese on a Tortilla. Yum Yum. Yum like I don't see that I don't see them enjoying a dinner together lunch apparently there's even reports that Joel embiid just sits in his room hang out with anybody. There's definitely no cohesion on this thing I think that's pretty clear even through the regular season and definitely the seating games. Brown did make a move here trae in this game. He started anti-viral in place of Al Horford, and I think a lot of people were like, okay why not? It's game to test Senate? You know sort of desperate already you got to probably get this. If you're GONNA, win the series and didn't work out that well for them. Horford what scored four points and thighbone scored two. They did win the first quarter. You're right and fiber held Jason Tatum thirty three with eight of twelve shooting as well. So yeah. I don't really know what Brett Brown is supposed to do. There's not a lot of options on the sixers. The Front office management has been terrible this season it's been really really bad. But. The good thing is, is that technically right? The sixers are supposed to be the home team for the next game. So maybe they will bring in the crowd noises of them. Maybe you know second quarter, we start hitting those boom first thing booze of the bubble. I remember there was a time during the season probably like late February early March where it felt like the sixers. Getting at home every single game but then they would somehow come back and win in the fourth quarter. I don't know if that's going to be the key, but I would load up that boo bank if I'm the sixers announcer, whoever's insurance all I I think that's actually a blessing in disguise Philadelphia weren't be in front of their own fans in that code, they won't be getting. That whole arena booing them because. They look bad I. Look at and I will say that Kemba walk it is so awesome to see him He's just it's taken a long time to get to this position where he's on a good team with good players and he is really putting on this didn't shoot all that well, yes. That I from three but just the control he's got just being in the situation is so awesome. To See because we wondered, would Kemba Walker be able to take that step up with really good players random and the answer so far is absolutely yes he's He's great and it's fun to see him out there having fun and playing well, read help from him after the game to or said, yeah, they're dropping back on pick and rolls. I haven't seen that much space in a long time what diss. Taking this many open jumpers in my entire MBA career even and beans I would like to challenge him but coach does not too bad. Oh Yeah. Well, back to back to the home court advantage near quotes, Brett Brown had this to say about the higher seeded Celtics. Of course, winning the first two games said quote if the planet were normal, you'd be going back to Philadelphia and saying the Celtics did what they should have. I mean, does anybody really by this like he's like he's like look. Series doesn't start until. A team wins on the road. You don't buy this man because it's not in Boston they're. And they're getting destroyed and that venue isn't going to change. So yeah, I think Brett Brown. I mean, you can see him on the sidelines a he he doesn't look comfortable. I think he realizes that he sees coaching for his career right now and that sixes career is ending in two two games time if you ask me. To. Can they pull out one we'll see we'll see. Let's keep it going because also tweeting who's going to write the first or who's going to start talking about the first Celtics Raptors second round preview even though we're only halfway through the series, but let's get to them their APPs then. Norm Powell. They lead the wraps past the nets one. Oh, four, ninety, nine ugly ugly game at times but they have the two Oh series lead. What's your big takeaway Tass. Raptors are GonNa have their first sweep in franchise history and they WanNa Championship they better. For No, doubt. Hanging over Tim Horton who's got his number retired with the Toronto Maple leafs sweep the first time in their now twenty five years. It's going to happen the nets put up a great fight. It sure seemed like this would be the one that they take yet they might get one but you talking about Joel embiid not showing because he doesn't have the lung capacity. Jared, Allen who wasn't even start at the beginning of the year they were starting K D's and Kyrie's Bud de'andre. Jordan. And that's spot. Jared. Allen will just they changed the Defense Jacques von Nets head coach said, we can't just have a guy sagging back there burying us what their threes that our guard play. So let's fly a guy out there and jared Allen. Did a great job in their threes went down from twenty to ten nine from game one to game too. Big And you talk about the Celtics the Celtics can probably do that in the second round hard not to look there. It's hard not to look ahead with both teams up to right now Daniel Tusk can do that and he's going to do that he's GonNa get up. But the nets put up a valiant effort and the raptors just understood hey, this a forty eight minute game they didn't lead for three quarters and. They finally took the lead there. They ended the game with John Obi and Pascal CEAC complain the four five. That's our. NBA. Six seven guy in a six nine guy and They did the job and it sure feels good if you're if you're wraps fan, you gotta definitely worry about the Celtics, I, know that's a little ways away. But the way that they look playing against them in the seating game where they're half court offense looked a little stagnant. That's what happened in this game as well with with the Brooklyn Nets, the half court offense has to get A. Little bit better but let's relish it right now let's catch up mustard and relish schedule sweep for the Toronto Raptors. First Time in franchise history you wonder if the scrappy nets here are doing the raptors a favor and what I mean by that is like actually playing hard actually trying out there some of these guys hitting shots giving them at least a bit of a series competitive games, nothing sort of easy and that helps the raptors moving forward against the Celtics in the second round whereas the Celtics are playing this team that you know we just talked about looks very checkout. Want to go home and I just wonder if that translates at all and like the first game or two, it's like the raptors are a little more prepared for the intensity of it all where the Celtics are suddenly going to be like what the hell. Why. You're defense you're supposed to back up back up let me step into his jumper. Great Series Of. Adjustment for shirt big time that's definitely going to help them out because the Celtics are definitely going to do that and you know we wondered going into the bubble situation is there potential at the nets could drop out of the playoffs because they don't have any other guys? Well, they worked their asses off and got up to the two seed while the magic are down there and in the eighth seed. That competitive level. Magic are playing well, but Vuckovich wouldn't be trying to take away lowery and future finals. MVP Fred Vanfleet. Back there. So I think the nets. Would've liked rather like to play the Milwaukee Bucks just because the bucks are sagging a little bit. They're not playing great But yeah, I agree better to play the better team here especially because you're going up against a great team in round two a really good team if the if it all plays out as expected. To put on some Benach. Getting out of telescope and look in way ahead the winner of the Raptor Celtic series is going to go to the NBA finals. You can lock that in right now bucks had looked impressive so far in the bubble is think they'll still probably be able to handle the heat who are likely coming out of the four or five series but you can mark me down for the Raptors and Celtics go and far because these two teams just look completely locked in in similar ways they are so versatile. They have so many different options they can throw out there and they both trust their coaches right? The fourth quarter closing lineup for the Raptors had played two minutes together all and they're going out there to win a playoff game you gotta love to see it if you're the raptors nick nurse hasn't playing they trust him and they're so adaptable that they're willing to try whatever he suggests and it seems to work most of the time. So I'm loving the two and three seeds in these. What did you think? At that's an interesting take. They have their because the buck certainly haven't looked good and I also think the Celtics and the raptors are. The best two teams, but I still want to give the bucks a little bit more time just to sort of get things right here because I think the best as we saw earlier in the season they are. Imposing team at both ends of the floor. So we'll wait and see there but I think for the raptors yesterday this was a bad win in the sense that. The Nets had this game. Up until about halfway through that fourth quarter when they all of a sudden couldn't hit a hit a shot. At the guy who's been staff them, he really had a cold shooting day. Yes. That but I go contribution of some Liuhua Woo Baroque and they got some from Joe Harris who's actually left the bubble to which is. He's had a non personal or a non medical personal reasons I know feel returned for this series, but I agree that I think this is good for the raptors to have a good tough series upfront. This is going to help them I think in the long run because you know some of the players, what Norm Powell, yesterday I had one of the best games of his career and that's the sort of thing the raptors had have not had in the past where someone you can lock Norman you can rely on to go out there and play well so they're going to need. To contribute, and to get this win to grind this one out I think he's going to help Toronto ultimately in the long run. Yeah. It was again choppy ugly at times there's a couple of sequences that you would not be showing kids of like, Hey, this is what NBA basketball looks like it. One hundred percent deserve the early afternoon slot on Mba let's just put it like that. But the only thing I would add to that Siaka thought looked very, very aggressive, which was great for the wraps. Not The best of King at the best box score silver all but aggressive especially early rappers for seventeen turnovers because their defense one than this game and the nets I mean they're down three. There's fifteen seconds to go. They're trying to get the ball to Joe Harris, coming off like a little dribble handoff in lowery just blew up to play and the norm gets a steal and goes and. Dunks it, and they win by five classic nets had a chance to tie this game and and possibly steal one or go into overtime though you can probably put this loss on curious for throwing the forearm shiver the shoulder to Oggi's head got the gotta common foul on that. It was a little shocking. We looked at it. You know a lot of people thought it might be a flagrant. Millions Lean. into. Again, like a little shiver forearm shiver but it fired ojea suddenly. Oh. Gee was like. It was like here in his family member introduce them. Broadcast. Sunday through down donkey it was like really locked in. So I think he put that loss on him for fire or not. But yeah, you're right. You said it was a good sort of ugly win and you need those winds in the playoffs when you got to string together sixteen, they're not all going to be pretty. And the wraps got done and we're getting rap Celtics. I'm very very excited for that serious I can't wait just just the sheer amount of like wing talent. The guys that actually play on both ends to for the most part. Oh, going to be very, very fun anything else to add a frustrated Markelle solemness you don't see that often. He's too skinny skinny now. He looks. Down there but yeah. He he hasn't really been out of fun. He's groove yet either and I think that's That's something that he will get the. He'll be the he'll deliver in those big gains in those big moments but it Just seems to be not quite himself at the moment, but that's I mean and like you guys brought up that closing lineup I. Mean That's why coach nurses maybe the best coach in the League right or is probably you know mark assaults frustrated going again a did not have a good game you're getting little from him. All right let's go. Let's go small here. Let's have a lineup of lowery vanfleet norm and then Jean Pascal and like let's close with that and went on a great run and closed the game it's like he doesn't care. He's like let's try it this guy's playing well, it's not working. Let's try something else. Wow. What a crazy idea for a coach to do. But so many women so many so many wouldn't and so many teams. So many players would be like, Hey, I'm supposed to be out there in the fourth quarter and that's not a problem for the raptors absolutely zero ego they say, Hey, nick nurse you've got an idea. Well, every single other thing you suggest that has worked. Fine. So yeah, we'll give that one a shot. It's impressive the way that they're able to run out there and just throw out lineups that. You wouldn't expect to even be on the court and then they succeed and then it's norm Powell thrown it back to the olden days where a game closing dunk is the highlight of the raptor season back before they could win championships you'll get excited about norm Powell throwing down a dunk on the fast break. Now, it's just a normal thing that happens in game two for the raptors changed that norm done horrible nor movement norm dunk against the Pacers where you're referring to. Up that was a was it three one, Fourth Quarter Game Five, twenty, sixteen I think that sounds right. They were GonNa go to the conference finals, right? Yeah. It was six. Wasn't it? Down Three. Three, down three to. I it doesn't matter. That was one of the best moments in raptors history at that time it was just. Yes? In things have changed breakdown and listen I. Don't think they win this game of nick nurse doesn't pull out a coaching maneuver at the beginning of this game they romped the nets but carousel avert was looking like. Katie light out there and game once they decide elit slow him down a little bit less make him a passer and they put for advanced like forcing up on over to start the game and garrison over it had eleven assists in this game and they they just showed him a bunch of different things and that's why I think the nets had pretty poor shooting night even though yeah, you said it. Was An ugly game. Yeah. The only shot thirty, nine percent. But if nick nurse doesn't pull out that move care calvert and the rest of the nets get going on that end and we'll have more of a shootout but Jock van made his adjustment by trying to press the Raptors guards nick nurse did the same thing nick nurses not just hanging out in his room playing his guitar he's looking at. Adjustments what can we do how? Yeah. Maybe they only have one superstar on this team superstars probably. A little bit extra for for that's being a little generous but they only have one guy who can take us down on his own. What can we do and without that? I? Don't think they win this game that Norman Powell Deng Game Five, two, thousand, sixteen, versus the pacers a huge moment I don't know if you remember this I don't know why you guys would. But I'll never forget it. That was a weird game for me because my cable went out to cables always going. I don't that my apartment in Atlanta here the cable legit went out in the area of the building I was in. So I went across the street I'm watching this in a bar all by myself. It wasn't like the lately game. It was you know it was one of those probably inbetween irs or maybe he was even after new I can't but I'm watching it. I'm really into it I'm the only one in the bar into this raptors pacers game if you can believe it down here in Atlanta, but the rats were down huge and you know I'm all upset Oh Jeez. Here we go. Again, wraps can lose and I remember Nora text that you still at home she want to watch the games like they're going to win this game. At the time I don't remember this. Let's she's like still believed in the wraps. and they came back norm. You know seals with that dunk and it was like Oh, my God. Incredible what a cool story that was. Memorable rappers it's just like nora still believing the norm dunk and watching it in this weird bar here in Orlando I'd Jay Z. May may cut your feed while your. Cool Story. Okay. So let's keep going here. We're GONNA get along real quick. Move on there was a great moment post from Kyle lowry. After the win, just smoking an assistant, whatever kind of Stanford. Oh, people were saying. GAME RECOGNIZE GAME SCENARIO KYLE lowry. He's got some boosts when he sees a boost just hanging out there. Like the guy behind kyle sort of rubs the back of the guy that. You. Man. Our looks back to check it. Did hit you pretty hard. He got a very washing. ended up a little more than the hip yeah. The leader Man I. Love a nice ass slapped. We've got breaking news here. Kala lowry will not be playing games. Three's been suspended for slapping guy he did it note that was somebody else. Doing all right. Let's get to the western conference but I over from sponsor. Sure very season. It's fun at all but only one thinking compared to the excitement playoffs and that is draft kings leader in one day fantasy sports both basketball and hockey have entered their respective play offs. Hot of the stars are up three two on the flames ten, thirty eastern tonight might not make it for the show tomorrow guys. 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No one actually contacted the bet that surely someone knows come on get one of those bats for me please. Just. Bats I really WANNA had become back. San I want him sucking Demons Man Dinger's with Judgy is done man. It's all about mashing Tater tots. taught junior. College is for hitting a home run hitting. So many home I think he had a three Ron bomb last night actually I think it might have been the night before now. Yeah. Casinos at home run last night. That was. That was tried to left. Let's go to the Western. Conference here. The Mavericks, the role players coming up huge in this one, the Luca was great to Dallas Wins One, twenty, seven, one, fourteen, this one, all tied up at one game apiece trae big takeaway. The. Mavericks. Out Clippers the clippers in this one you mentioned it dodge was good. PORZINGAS was good but it was honestly the bench that was great. Seth Curry, Trey Burke and bogue on putting the team on their back basically across the end of the third quarter and the fourth quarter just catching fire really spacing out the clippers and just get into the lane all the time Trey Burke was looking incredible out there just go into the lane. And finishing. You know what's like he goes right every single time and flips up a little tosseh on the rim and it somehow goes in but the mavericks depth actually showed up and that's not something you necessarily expect we did get bench nicknamed the mild stallions early in the year but I kind of fell by the wayside we weren't talking a whole bunch about the mavericks reserves. It was all about if the dunk is going to be. An MVP, you don't necessarily think of the other guys you hope kristaps showed up but last night, it was a team effort and it was just really impressive to see. Basically. Dodgers go out with foul trouble. At. The beginning of the third quarter and a little bit later on as well and the team take no steps back. You kind of feel like for the Mavericks to pull an upset in the series, you would have to have forty point triple doubles from Luca every single night. But as we saw last night, that's not necessarily the case if everybody else is able to perform. This one is probably my favorite series I far because you get back to gain one way posing as gets injected with nine minutes to go in the third quarter and their leading I mean th- obviously things done always just mean that you're going to have exactly the same gangly. So last night but the mavericks could feel right now that they could be to up in this series and feeling pretty good. I think Paul George He'd he had that big ice pack on his shoulder last not maybe he's injured maybe it's not pretty certainly couldn't shoot the bowl that well, but this Dallas offense I mean coming in question whether. Or not this offense would be able to sustain itself outside of those big to given how good clip his defenses but last night I mean it just worked for them and everyone's GonNa Show I. Mean You saw you mentioned Trey Burke and Seth Curry there were just like clowning the clip. Is there in that sort of third and fourth quarter getting their basket so easily so Dallas is going to have to feel pretty good because the clippers really haven't been out of slow them down offensively at all so far in this series now you expect at some point they're going to go a little bit cold but right now the. Just in that group are from the start of the game too. Don't you was hitting shots early on Porzingis was aggressive and then when? The finished myths and the and the Tim. Hardaway's and those guys give them shots and start making them all of a sudden we had to you stop this thing because when they get in transition and you saw with Tim Hardaway last night if he gets the ball and transition, it's going up one way or the other it's going up and if if he knocks shutting or he gets the line, he scores the ball and. That's the way he likes the plan. That's what Dallas as from him. So this is a this is a very interesting series. I still pick the clippers to come out ultimately on top because I think with with. And with George I have just a little bit too much talent for the clip for the for the Mavericks but. Not Feeling not convinced right now really really looking forward to seeing how things play out here in game three especially, if poges somewhat banged up, well, let me ask you this. Put them in order rank them extremely worry too little worried of the three sort of higher teams, the title favorites, the Lakers, the bucks in the clippers, what order you putting them in. Why are you most worried about the first round of course well, to get out of the first round I I guess I would say the box because box. Well, I would say that because Lebron is getting out of the first round, he's getting out of the first round now that's that's going to happen. Okay. Thirteen point favorites tonight you'd better. Landau magic. Blocks to make the bucks to me the most questionable just out of one game. So far I think they advanced but for the answer, this question I think it's the advanced. Again, I think that clippers going up against a very tough opponent, the toughest opponent in Dallas but I think they ultimately get through and. So yes. A box I clip a second like A. It's again it's tough but to good game so far from Dallas to very good. Games, we obviously get the Lakers in the bucks in their second game today. So I expecting I'm expecting a very different response from Milwaukee today and expecting the blazes to keep the the Lakers game close but I think the Lakers even that's here we will see we will see. Yeah. The mild stallions though tasks were awesome Boban. What thirteen point six of eight, shooting, nine boards really positive in very limited minutes really didn't play time Steph Curry fifteen points and trey burke was so fantastic that I remembered because Nawroz like who is that guy and she was sort of half ass watching while I'm watching it I'm like I'm telling her I'm like Oh. Yeah. We had tree burke on our show in Vegas. That's well, he last night that I was reminded that we had that guy battling our own trey Kerby at like I don't know what cup stacking or something like that whatever you WanNa call them. He's a garbage cup stack but a pretty good basketball player I mean he he was really dominant shots seven for eleven in this game. What did you? What was your takeaways? Think Rick Carlisle coach the crap out of basketball players die. down. The lineup there he obviously wanted title and twenty eleven getting stuff out guys for like Stevenson and a young wanderer they just don't. Overextend Pass what they do. So Yeah Tim. Hardaway Jr is known as a shooter, but they forced him to be able to pass a little bit and if you're gonNA stick on the floor and play thirty plus minutes in this game, you're going to have to defend that's a heck of a job I Rick Arlen and his staff during Finish Smith is improved putting the ball on the floor trey. Burke, as he said. Adding guy was picked up off the scrap heap and so. Rick Carlisle. Is Coaching a team that's not a seven seat and I think that both the mavs and the blazers are not seven, eight, zero they're better than that and they're they're just playing in a really really tough conference. They've had injury concerns both of them, and so this series is phenomenal. And you have to have confidence as a team. You know you've got beat by the CLIPPERS PORZINGAS was out for the second half of that game. He got his hugs from Bobin. Sure. But it you gotTa have supreme confidence to come in the next game and play forty eight minutes because that game fizzled away in the fourth quarter or Luca was on the bench because this clippers seem is really mentally tough they are. Championship favourite and. I you gotta give Kudos not only to to Luca and the players but riccar line staffer keeping them afloat. Patrick Beverley. Would've made a difference didn't plan this game because of a calf injury worrisome part for Doc rivers is he said, I don't know if he's coming back on Friday for game three or fees out a week, and it seems like a strange injury because he was in and out of the lineup during the season games as well. So yeah, that's a problem in that. They had to float a bunch of different guys on Luca they even through. Which I didn't think was going to happen this early in the series but man the mavs unlike the Philadelphia Seventy sixers. They are hanging out all the time together eight nine ten guys apparently including Bobin. Mariana Vich. Is Apparently the nicest man in the world he's so nice that opponents are saying you're the nicest dude I know Marcus Morris was a clue was with him at the at the free throw line and bones rub in his back there here they're rubbing his back and his hand takes his entire back and later. Later on. What Marcus Morris is saying in that clip is you're one of the nicest dudes I know like the nicest dude I know we found out later in the broadcast body is that cool that great and they obviously They love each other but man Luka this year to the guy's pulling out these moves in the back for getting owl calls in again a really tough defense. But man all grown up that guy again has been planning playoff game since he was a wee lad since he was cocoa goths age. Thanks. Off and I love. This is an incredible series. This is definitely the best series so far. Yeah. I mean Luca what he eleven turnovers in game one I got that down to a one I believe it was last night. You're right know beverly beverly there he's just making everyone play a little harder. He's obviously getting into it with people he's up people there would be more either for Luca because you'd be matched up on 'em and slapping away Adam or just jumping passing stuff like that but still great job by Lucas and credible stuff. They show we don't have the clip when they showed A. Patrick Beverley at one time. You know how they can see themselves like the players can see across the court. There's monitors of what you're seeing on. TNT Did you see the clip where like it went to beverly because we're talking about his injury time but what's going on in the game and then shown them for a little while he was like almost like throwing up an ex like views like talking about the foul that was happening on the floor or if he was upset that he was being shown. On the camera do you know what I'm talking on a ladder I thought he was calling up to the control. Cut it off cut it off. Don't show me. He was even doing this like like the director cuts sort of thing. Tell, the players are more aware of where the cameras are during the bubbly than they ever have and I mean, it makes sense. You know that's the only thing flying around all over the place but you see like had that Duncan than stared down. Lucas to the era. After, beating the Lakers. Patrick Beverley, it was hilarious with beverly 'cause they went off of him but then they came back and he's like, Hey, man I'm still looking turn it off. Maybe maybe that's not the symbol. Then for the direct, maybe they need to take the uncle Joey approach and just do they cut out maybe that's that's the symbol. Shall we be more that might be more well known than just sort of like you guys doing this that maybe I to get. Upset and he was being shown for so long on. Which? Is Patrick. Beverley wouldn't love a little bit of facetime out day because he's really into the game and he's encouraging thing I think it want to see that. But who knows yeah. But you said it there it is a little weird that doc doesn't seem to know like when he's going to be back if he's going to be back. So a little strange just before we move on here at Colli and Dominic Kawai. Liking. But playoff P. Paul George. Four seventeen fourteen points you know he's got the ice pack on the shoulder he's talking about how frustrated with the whistle and all that. Does it does playoff here PG get the right amount of. Greater blowback for these crappy performances like it or does he sort of get to skate by a little bit and I'll realize say that is like. The Raptors. Fan You know obviously bringing this up but like lowery has a four for seventeen the sky is falling. You know he suddenly the worst player of all time. But here's playoff on four seventeen. This guy is a six time. All Star like Whoa you know is he getting enough? I know people out there on where the hell are you and stuff like that. But I what's your opinion on this guys? I think we give too much or not enough criticism to number twos throughout the league. I think we only ridicule. Lebron we don't really ridicule Anthony Davis. I think up and down the line everywhere. I? Think porzingas gets enough ridicule mean more ridicule out there but I think as. Soon. As I think in general, it's just a thing. We just a thing that. So why does the lowery thing happen because at times? He's sort of seen as the lead guy you know maybe before I went to the next level and he was sort of one to derozen. Is that maybe why? I think I think that was that was pretty quiet even yeah where he got all that criticism. Okay. There's definitely some others out there like Michael Porter Jr. joe-marie, they get all sort of skate by it feels like we just don't have the lungs. We don't have the word ask. Go after a number two for some reason but that's what happens. But I have been noticing that too as as far as PG. Goes. He just stunk horrible just had a really really bad night and you can. You can make the excuse about the shoulder definitely about the foul calls but. I. Think IT'S Something that I said after the game doesn't mince words quite doesn't quite really doesn't have the lung capacity. So when he does say one sentence I, do believe him and he says the guys coming into the lineup or Israeli messing with us and we're just sort of not used to this. Shuttering in of. Shuttling in of Patrick Montreal everybody has been in and out of the lineup for them. So I think that is something that's kind of just annoying and you definitely see that with the Lakers and so I think that is kind of you get in playoff mode you WanNa, go zero dark thirty is these guys like to say and I think they want to have the same guys coming in and out of the locker room every single night. So that's that's the excuse I'm giving for playoff. I was throwing a big old fat softball they're free to. Play off p never heard of them. GATORADE commercial. I don't know I was thrilled to wake up this morning and see pandemic p. was trending. Can't give yourself a nickname is that a joke? WHO's that actually? That was really that was really trending. Because Paul George, he does he does get a little bit of heat because he gave himself the nickname playoff p when he had hit one game winner in a commercial trashes his teammates. When they take the clutch shots, he trashes opponents when they make the shots on them I don't know what you want from me I love. People Attorney on Paul. George. We wouldn't even know about this guy if things hadn't happened in two thousand twenty. Four happened in twenty twelve. All right. Well, okay. I didn't know that pandemic was trending. So it feels like you know the blow-back is. Fair enough I guess for a bad Paul George Performance Lee anything on that? No. Not Really. Yeah. It's. It's interesting. Poach does have to step up though in this series and If somehow the mavericks advanced because again, the clippers get out of this but. If if the if the clippers darn. poges going get quite a bit of the spotlight because. He's proven he's done it. He's a finals MVP went goes the raptors it. So he if he has a bad series which he hasn't anyways you had a good Seri- so far. Is Not going to get the heat. It's GonNa Fall Impo. Georgia shoulders. All right. Final game here to touch on. Donovan Mitchell scores thirty points the jazz hammer the nuggets one, twenty, four, one, zero, five, this series also tied at one game apiece task big takeaways from this really dominant performance here from the Jess, the jess kicked s and it was led by Don. Mitchell and I'm not sure which Donovan Mitchell performance I like better fifty seven points in game one or thirty points with eight assists and ridiculous shooting in game. Two. Yeah because they're they're they're two different Donovan Mitchell I. Think you gotta give him a ton of respect for changing up his game. He decided I can't score this much. We're GONNA win. He absolutely said. You, guys have to contribute I'm not going to score fifty-seven each game so. They threw a ton of different defenses at him. You know they blitzed them they they drop back, go bear they kind the jazz, move their pick and roll to the side. So he could get the ball to the weak side a little bit and and Mitchell was finding those guys they're switching. Then he he destroyed people on his own when he had the chance to go at Nikolai Yokich as I think I'm going with game two that I tweet about this I thought it was more. Beautiful game passing the ball around than a one on one I'm GONNA kick your ass type of performance that he had in game one but obviously, you got them to win game one almost got them the win too so. That's not really my argument is that. He gets the attention. So he can make Joe ingles he can make joon, Morgan. He can make everybody up and down that roster other than join Clarkson who can get his own he makes them better and that was that was that was a superstar becoming a real playoff superstar. We all forget everybody given the dame Lillard love everybody forgets how people get our people got the ball at Steph Curry's hands and that's how the warriors became the warriors. That's true. Respect and that's what the nuggets are trying to do too Donovan Mitchell but they don't have the defensive personnel to back it up they just they stuck. Half. ASS It. That's the problem with the nuggets. I mean they're the one of the worst defensive teams in the ceiling beams down there. They're not a great defensive team but. What I mean by half ass is like they throw a double like at. Mitchell but it's like a week double. There's no real. Sort of. Run A second guy at you but they're not active with their hands or not obviously rotating after that. It's like. Well, we've done our job. We got the ball out of his hands and then it's like you said, all these guys stepping into wide open threes Mitchell did a great job and we saw that coming and he had like he was setting up three point shooters like that were wide open left and right in the first half any at a couple of beautiful backdoor cuts. Couple of great passes to him moving off ball too. But it's just like the nuggets defense is just Like. This is wild disabled. Thing like what let Mitchell shoot all the time take away everybody else Dan hold on all these shooters because we talked about heading into this series like in the regular season series it was the jazz. Plus. Shuman like plus eighty five in the three Point Department for Utah in this series Denver let Mitchell over forty or fifty i. actually think it's a better game plan oddly then letting all these other guys step into wide open threes because your defense is just not that great. That's my opinion. Those those plus numbers definitely included boy on big data when he kicked, ass true. And no one thought that the jazz would shoot fifty seven percent from three. Through three quarters before garbage time. So I think that that should drop off but the third quarter where they shot seventy percent from the floor, the nuggets just weren't ready to play and You know Jordan Clarkson held them in it in the second quarter so I think. It was kind of a special special night offensively for the jazz shooters. I don't really see that repeating but I do like this. If they're going to give him space for to pass I, think Donna Mitchells gotta do that. Sure. Yeah. The nuggets defense deserves criticism but also the jazz would just on fire in that though I think I hit five threes in a row in in for the quarter I'm so there's no much because I won that wasn't All because of bad defense, it was just like team gets hot Mitchell hit six of seven for the entire game. So I don't think he's going to be quite that hot and they got off to a good start jazz. The jazz came out after a probably blowing that one in the first game in just a little bit more focused and determined shelter falling Denver, just couldn't get into it because I wasted a good Marco Porta Junior. Game. Day yesterday. This is a fascinating series. Now, I think Denver gets out of it still but. Unplanned that Utah One that one yesterday. So we got ourselves a series. Hundred percent convinced this a-. As. I was at the beginning this is going seven tray I know you were as well because these teams are just sort of up and down can't trust and really from. Game to game sometimes have to have quarter to quarter. They're just all over the map. Yeah. That's exactly right. I don't know why just you know the jazz can go cold. I feel like my biggest criticism of Mitchell that he makes things too hard on himself. Sometimes, you really presses and that wasn't the case yesterday. So when he's playing in control, it's Why you could make an argument that thirty eight is more impressive than fifty seven just the way he was willing to get rid of the ball and get whenever it comes back but then for the nuggets. joe-marie can have an incredible fourth quarter, but is he going to have an incredible four quarters? It's hard to say. Both teams so up and down that's why you gotta think seven game series. Make Sense Michael. Porter. Jr. Did have a nice game I. Wonder if it's Roy. So neal was guarding Jamal Murray. Impressive on. The is focused yesterday that move. To. Because tomorrow, he just destroyed my dear countrymen, Joey angles in that fourth quarter say yeah. So that was that was the key moved from queen and that is the move stop. Jamal Murray gets loose in the play offs. We've talked about it fourteen points, thirteen shots that's not great and. A lot of that was Royce on the aluminum and locking him down news from the nuggets to Wilburton task has left the bubble to rehab his knee. I don't think we're GONNA. See Him at all. He's gone. He hasn't played in a single season game obviously not in the playoffs and he's out of there I don't know what Gary Harasses update is but. Barton is gone. We'll the thrill. Could definitely use Gary Harris if he's going to be sticking around the bubble and hopefully he gets healthy but Yeah I I think Gary Harris just because their defenses lacking big time would be is a little bit more important than Wilburton right now because we'll Barton's a score and man, but they seem to be finding finding enough scoring and yeah the reason why this seems like it's going to be a long series is because the nuggets just have a couple of defenders out there and Michael Boorda junior turned that around at least in in game twos able to stay on the floor. So that's a big win for the nuggets, but they need some defensive-minded players that can also berry some threes Ryan. So hopefully, Jerry Hairston can be on the floor but yeah, it seems like everybody who leaves the bubble It's uncertain whether or not they're coming back. He's just seems like what's going on right now although. Mike Conley coming back for the jazz. In this series, he could be back game three on. Friday. I don't know if this snuck up on everyone else but the draft lottery is tonight. The hell. Noticed it yesterday but. Okay. We're doing this on Thursday. Yeah. Usually happens but here we are August Twentieth Yeah Twenty Twenty NBA draft lottery goes down tonight eight thirty eastern on ESPN I believe I think it's between Games if I've got that right you know it's a after the bucks game and then before the Lakers game I think The show is going to feature representatives for all fourteen lottery teams. We're going to see Steph curry tonight for the Warriors de Ngelo, Russell Fox and so on. I don't know a ton about the draft. I know you guys don't are either you know we're not huge on following these guys but I do know it's sort of like a three player race. Let's call it that for the number one pick, there's no consensus and might depend on which team even gets the number one pick. So this could be huge Georgia's Anthony Edwards sort of a wing guy you got the NBL's Lamelo, ball and then Memphis. James Wiseman. The Big Guy there those are sort of the three that you're seeing at the top draft boards but let's let's figure out who wins this thing we usually something silly but we Again forgot that this was even happening. So I thought we could just fire up Tanka thon here today guys do the simulation just see who wins this thing before they even do you WanNa do that. Yeah. Now. Here's the question while I fired up. An share our screen for everybody on Youtube. Are we going to do one click or should we maybe do a couple and I was going to throw out the idea of doing four clicks because I turned forty today and we're not going to do forty four forty close enough. How do we feel about that through five? Why For you for you being fifty. Okay we can. Way Say best defy for something don't you best of four? To five point. All right. So the fifth one is going to be actually what goes down is everybody seeing my screen John. Good good. We making a pick for who we think's GONNA get out. Okay. Sure. Yeah and I should point out. Are GonNa pick for the second one or the third one. There's there's three teams have a fourteen percent chance at the number one pick that's golden state and Golden State's interesting because a lot of people think if they get it, they might treat it. So that's somewhat fascinating. Cleveland has a fourteen percent chance. Minnesota has fourteen percent chance and they got the Hawks Kokai at twelve point five percent and then Detroit at ten point five percent. All right. Lee. Who Do you? Think's GONNA. Win when I clicked this the fifth time. Mix Baby. Coming okay. The Knicks. Task. Who would you like to even see it always ask it like that I definitely want the Atlanta. Hawks. Got The fourth best odds I live in Atlanta. They didn't have the luck last year we got to shore up the southern teams here. Okay. Do Give me the hawks. Okay Trey well, the Knicks are going to win it the fixes in no doubt about it. Well, I would love to be the Bulls but they're gonNA end up seven as they always do. Okay I think. I'm rooting for a three percent chance. That the number one, pick going to the Phoenix. Suns Right. The basketball God's should shine brightly upon them after what they did down there in Orlando going eight. No still not making the playoffs. So I'll I'll root for the son's hair and the Rangers New York Rangers we WANNA stick with the stick in the puck won the draft lottery in the NHL so must be pumped. Yeah. Okay. It's all right. Here we go. Let's do this. It doesn't take long to Senate. All right. First one doesn't matter doesn't matter but let's see. Oh. Okay. Okay. Sorry Wolves Fan. Well, we'll get that one. Okay. Second one. Let's see. Number one memphis. Wow Memphis jumping thirteenth sponsor. Okay. That doesn't count the number three here. Fourth Line. Detroit. Here we go come on Knicks v one SIM lottery. SHADOW TANK DOT com. I. This is what is what is happening tonight. You don't even need to watch the show. Here we go. SACRAL. Wowed Joe Dumars. Wow kings that's definitely not happening tonight, the Kings have a one point, three percent chance but kings fans going to be happy a tank fifth simulation says the kings are winning it wow. THAT'D BE BIG CHARLOTTE CHARLOTTE to Cleveland Three and Chicago dropped the nine network I was watching the Bulls every single simulation they didn't move up once they moved it down to time. Two out of five times moved out. All right. All right that was. What? Went more smoothly than I thought it was way to actually. All right congratulations to the Kings in advance any anything that ad going into this draft lottery again I know we're not like Jonathan Given East Guy Knees Javanese whatever his name is over. That's how little I know about the draft I. don't even know how to say his name. But. I. Think. Adra. I can't wait to SAM vicinity who gets the first pick. Mellow Ball I assume is going to be the number one pick he's marketable. He's tall and he can pass the Lamelo. Ball I would love to see him do it because he played in the NBA last year. So would give a little bit more white to. Play in the Australian Baseball League Cy. That'd be awesome. If he did that I think worst-case, he's going three or four for sure I am so torn on whether Lamelo ball is going to be good I this the only guy I've done any sort of homework on watch clips like you know been following a little bit more like. I'm not convinced that. Good. But everything you read from the experts like this guy is legit he's going to be is going to be a star task. which going to say I think Australia the NBA had the highest rankings ever when Lamelo was playing out there. Really. Yeah. As far as TV audience and stuff, which is shows the. The impact cancer and coming from the bull family, of course but This this is good because it would be good for the strain basketball. I've got nothing I am looking forward to seeing Lamelo ball and what he can be hit or miss. Bust or balls no-one knows I feel like Mike Schmitz Mike Shits for not being able to pronounce anyone's name butchered. My Birthday asshole rules. Okay. trae. tweeted the night. What are we got here? tweet out there now. Got, a couple of tweets for tweet of the night. The first one actually came this morning it's from our own at task. And it says Happy Birthday Jay. Wow this young man with a shaved face. Wow. Wow, I. Liked saw somebody in the comments that tweet say what Iphone is that? That's a Kerry. Okay remote. You're seeing right there if you do well. Lean perhaps well, I'm inputting inputting some Karaoke, songs the. You get into a curiosity room with twenty of your friends. It can become a bit of madness in terms of like operating the system putting in stuff it can just get crazy. So we would have this sort of like I think it worked pretty well tasked trading me if I'm wrong but like I would generally put the numbers in. So if you found the song number in the book. You blurted to came and told me and then I would just keep the remote so that you would get into trouble with the remote passed around to everyone. That's that's where came a nightmare everybody's drawn, screw it up. So I would man the remote you had a song boom. Let's put it in, put it in Q. So. Yeah I don't know chance your question. No idea what I'm sitting there but. Obviously, unloving the Song I looked pretty happy in that in that photo and putting in a new song I guess. I assume you are yeah. We we like to go deep on the songs. Yeah. Happy Birthday to you. Thank you. Carry Opium Fun. If we ever get to do it again, the tweet of the night from last night comes from our friend Henry Abbott at true who has a simple question? We're all watching a lot of basketball right now Henry says what's the most you have ever accomplished during a time out? One two and a half three minutes. You can accomplish a simple task around the house I respond I said for me I always want to unload one rack in the dishwasher comeback the next time out on the second rack in the dishwasher. That's a perfect amount of time to figure out where your plates and cups are going. What about job? You're right to think I. Think they extend to like three and a half minutes especially in between quarters where sometimes they come back in between quarters until you Luca dodger your championship game back to commercials there's A, Nice Chunk of time right there. But here you don't want to go too far I always throw the garbage out or throw the recycling out. You always have to separate them verbally because people say I'm the throne I'm throwing it out and throw it in the recycling recycling, recycling garbage garbage. I mean, that's just a that's just a pet peeve of mine doing something. Good. If you're throwing the recycling, you're not throwing it out but I would never try and do both at during. To. Live with yourself. Lee From Your Book Ski Because. The Cana like to take my time but sometimes, it's late in the game and there's a time at I'm in and out likes Katie and I get the job done so. When you're under the pump you have to perform then I can do that. But if time out, you know that's the that's the rush through that otherwise. So yeah, you're also fifty so you can't hold it. Whereas tapers. Actually I. looked at this a little differently because during a can't get a time done I mean definitely running garbage out or during the dishwasher make sense I've been using the halftime to really use that like what is it like fifteen sixteen minutes or so? To really get a task done most nights. I watered the flower beds late at night, you don't want to do that when it's like stinking hot, right you don't want to get water on those leaves man they can burn. So you got to wait till the sun goes down a little bit cooler so that that second to last game of the day so far and all the seating games now into the playoff games that halftime, that's a nice little sweet spot to get outside and water the garden. It's perfect. It's like takes me like the purview of obviously don't have a ton ton to water here. I don't have to worry about the backyard's it yet but. It's nice. You gotta get up to you gotta you to. Do like Lee or go to the garden. Yeah get some squad see and actually that's probably the best thing to do because when you just plunked on the. Multiple die not good for a good year. Are you still talking about the toilet but? You. From sitting on one seat until another. Few steps, you would never be one of these people that puts a television screen and their bathroom Li Na now. Even tried recently leaving my out to open just just separate, just separate. Going into in the toilet. And then all of a sudden you scrolling and you're in there for twelve minutes sometimes it's Guy Cisco. Kid. So sort of gross to it is. Guilty of it. I mean, I know tasks used to take laptop in. Two. Days worth the work done on. Thinking Ball. Faxing. Things done you gotta get things. I had a dedicated stool for it as well. Wasn't he tiniest it was kind of premeditated dealer like well I'm going dump and I'm getting myself whole setup in. Well, it's good for everybody I forget what they're called but the little step up what are those not? SQUATTY potty go. Yeah and that's not squatty potty though is it Where you put your feet up. On shock, tank yeah. Definitely one tests I definitely good for you yet right for. The body should get rid of any unwanted waste. It's medically it's medically a better way to Dr Lsu. Pillow listen. In parts of Asia? That's that's the way they do. But the way you said it, you don't you don't need to get rid of waste. Okay. It's sight of your throat. With your browns. Sarah Gray Confirms Yes squatty Potty that was just an integrated ad. Right. There were selling spotty here. We could sell the hill at a squatty. Mount Times we talked about taking a dump. So the night Sarah Trae fast quick look ahead for we wrap this up. You know I said, we got the draft lottery tonight, but we do have four games on again what we got we got the quiet Zilla on ESPN, and of course, we're all looking forward to the number one seeds who both lost a wild on Tuesday the Lakers Blazers but I'm a little bit more interested in that. Buck's matic series because the box are they going to get performances like the mavs last night from guys to through twelve anybody outside Yannis Gupo who are really going to perform there. Because as I mentioned, there are thirteen point favorite. They were blown out in this game. The Lakers were up in the fourth quarter. So I'm not so worried about them actually played good on what end of the floor against the blazers the bucks didn't play good on either end. It was coming out on both ends for them so. Let's. Let's have potty break for them as they get going here. Are they the early game six, o'clock, the sixty, and then back to back with the Lakers. The scheduling has been so good to have these. La Teams at home back to back as the late, games yeah. Yeah it's it's been high quality stuff I been programming pretty well I'm actually almost a little surprised I will say that outside of those A. teams playing the lake, which makes sense because you wanNA catch as many people on the west coast possible or like a little bit later in the day there because it's the six o'clock start there. Like like jockeying around the start times a little bit for these teams right like the Magic Bucks play at six o'clock in their first game. Right? That was a was an earlier thirty. And you know the raptors have switched up a little bit too a little a little surprised by that because that means at times you're gonNA have a bit of a quicker turnaround I. Know they're not playing back to backs but still little shock I thought they were just locking to their times and say, here you go. This is your time slot. This is how you flags. Flex it like I said that's the more interesting game of the other three games apologies to the thunder rockets and he pacers but you get bumped the bucks and magic. It's it's a little more tantalizing. Now the magic have taken game one it is it is but I'm a little worried for like thirty point. Sure. Tonight you. Got To watch the ADS though that's What they wanted I'll be able to give the flower bed a little bit more one. Just. 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Full Court Press Episode 144 Bulls Mavericks Offseason Analysis

Full Court Press

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Full Court Press Episode 144 Bulls Mavericks Offseason Analysis

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Which of course we'll go right into the lawn. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and other insurers discontent available in all states or situations forecourt press n._b._a. Podcast season series here today have dane with me <hes> to make cover all thirty teams before the season starts. I think two or three weeks we have to do this episode so grateful for danger and on talk about <hes> the bulls. I think we've already discovered even just a few minutes before we hit the record button that we would describe them as a basketball team that everybody seems to be excited about so we'll get into. Maybe why that's the case. Maybe why we're not as excited as everybody else then the mavericks the mavericks are the team that when i think about them i read something about them or doing some preparation jenner my own analysis then for some reason these types of things don't normally stick with me but mavericks fans and hawkins or any perpetual death breath fight over who won that dan trail here and when i what i find so odd in terms of how bitter and angry everyone is over over the debate is that i don't know if i can remember a trade and then be that looked like such an obvious win for both teams so day before we jump into the into the bulls i are you seeing that or is it just seeing more because of my hawks pan with an d._c. At the same way that it's like both both should just be absolutely happy with what the well i mean yeah. You're into it a lot more than than i am with your with your hawks ties but but i just in it came up when i was listening vegas at summer league so you know like a bunch and it's it's. It's almost boring for me because i do view it. It's just like okay it happened. Nobody seemed to really get screwed screwed by it so like we kind of move on and like pretend it didn't happen and these are who the who the teams are and obviously we've got to like adjust for for the extra pick in there but i don't know at the end of the day like luca works on the mavs and trae works on the hawks like let's just talk about basketball talk about all those guys fit on those teams and it's not going to go with this is they're both what twenty years old like this is going to rage on for a decade and i think the next kind of vaction point if you will is if luca makes it all star team was distributing all star team of course all the debate will be we'll lucas tougher conference cineas lia's trae might get ahead of him while lucas just as deserving whatever sure i don't react to this. I see it and it just amazes me because you know i'm not. I don't gravitate eight towards these types of conversations. I'm much more curious intellectually curious about you how it all works but the funny thing is that typically when there's something like kinda a truly has maybe a controversial nature to it. Sometimes we talked about the form of the basketball. God's saw it to do x._y._z. Right davis is trying to force his way out of new orleans. The the best way god gives them the lottery as i on the hawks thought well we'll get it. We'll get we're confident. We gotta stop typically got the pick and the next draft they got cameras and now we know it's luca for training camp and so it seems like the basketball god's kinda had that land right where didn't kill the mavericks but it was also when within with an the band with the kind of acceptability outcome for the hawks so it just seems like the best way god's agree with you. I'll leave it at that. I know well. I know well a guy why in the in the hawks front office and i was talking talking to him about it and cam specifically and he's just like you know so much of this debate feels like it's going to be defined signed by cam and naturally he's kind of you know a a risk or he he has to you know what what he could be and at at the end of the day the objective way to analyze this trade. Is you know the the expected value of the picks and but that's not how how we do it. We will have the revisionist history of you know. Camera just goes on to be multi time all-star then. Maybe that does hit the scales. If cam goes on to have a andrew wiggins us career than will condemn the hawks for it. It's it's like i'm starting to do my fantasy football research and and you start you start projecting out all these guys and you can make you can have the best draft in your league but it doesn't matter it comes down to wins and losses and who gets your touchdowns sounds for you like six weeks into the season. It's it's all there's just an inherent gamble to all of this that it's hard to. I dunno. I it's hard to as time compounds to analyze it all together and i don't know it just seems like it's time to let's let's just play basketball with cam if he does as if he's great we'll forget that there was a risk profile attached to taking my ten in that if he'd lakes say three ulcers that's that's an unlikely likely result speaking right and and like fantasy football or you know. It's that time of the year. It's the dumbest thing i don't analyze but i won't quit like the game flow has everything to do with who gets points. You know if if you have a running back kingsdown three touchdowns. You're screwed if you don't have the best quarterback in the league. They're up twenty nothing in the second quarter. You're screwed and in fact last year i had the second the most cumulative points in the league and i had the worst record. That's all dumping football. That's that's all work but it's about just like the n._b._a. Basketball is as cliche but it's about having fun and it's the gamble of it like gambling gambling's fun. Just just have fun with the gamble. Let the chips fall where they man. I'll have fun unless it goes like last year. Then you're just kind of even then you know on a sculptor took still kind of a almost a fun type of planes so okay exactly how well it's doable into <hes> the bull so first of all reminder part of the line at podcast network lineups dot com slash podcast at line of sight pods appreciate the great support work that the guys guys behind the scenes there are doing making things easy for so bulls last year twenty two hundred sixty twenty nine hundred offense twenty fifth on defense twenty-seventh <hes> that rating a lot of players lost injury last year so kind of law season download. There's a lot of looking back at last season window. Carter junior missed so much. It's time in the beginning of the season. Martins mistime christine was injured often on most of the year etc but the players they lost. They were twenty twenty fifth cheapest on their starting center robin lopez longer there so that the fucking to advance the needle defensively wayne selden cameron payne. Is that really loss kind of funny. Only because you watch it came in pain flunk out of his i think it was the second team and then toronto gives them camp contract and anytime toronto <unk> touches anyone. You're like a really smart. It's kind of like win. Just patton trying to think for for other delete or something like that <hes> just pen today. I think got a contract with the thunder yeah. I don't know if it was. I don't know what deal it is. I was looking for your boy jeff siegel all to like up on the site but he he he tweeted it. I think it's three three or four years but only guaranteed for this year only seven hundred thousand four this year so if if they can turn him into something that will he'll be value contract with the rest but but similarly when toronto was kind of looking at him. I always get super curious. Here's around okay well. I never understood this value in the draft. I never understood why he was. Anybody was excited about him at all but you know people kind of look at them and so so you know we'll give you a look. Whatever i always question myself raptors do that for me. <hes> and then carro with team players edit that young senator and ski quite a loss for washington and then maybe the weirdest one for me <hes> cornet and i lived in this way when a team with some good young players ads golic thad young after acquiring auto porter last year that the deadline i want to take that team more seriously but when the same eighteen turns around and signs luc cornet to a two year fully guaranteed contract. I have a hard time taking. It's it's like six hundred k. above the middle like it's dumb but it's i mean it's not that bad like it's the end of the bench guy. I always say for a minimum contract. Can you give me a guy who who a guy who can do one thing. I'm not sure what that one thing is for the cornet but he's huge and he can kind of shoot that that alone makes him almost worth the minimum right so it's not that bad. It's not horrible but i would think that any organization that's rebuilding understands the value of roster spots and i guess it comes down to it. It really is the owners money. That's how this is as long as this isn't actually holding them back from saying oh. We have a chance to add another guy. We're we'll plant on full all year of spin on cornet as long as they doesn't become you know kind of a sunk cost type of player on the roster that has to stay to the end of the contract comes down to ownership philosophy management philosophy offi and the bulls have been all over the place last number of years. I don't really know what they're trying to do there. They drafted well and they and their draft day trades. <hes> <hes> you know the last three or four years have been good. The team covers was on the other end of that one point in time but yeah i mean thad young going to help. A a team of youngsters is good. They added a kobe white and the draft listeners know how high i am on him. Especially the office of player will see on defense defense tends to be the case with small smallest guards. He's not as small as everyone kind of thinks he is but he's good on and off the ball so i think he does have a lot of value value with being part of a kind of versatile set of guards which is what it looks like chicago's doing here. They got daniel gaffer at thirty eight. I don't know if he's n._b._a. Player oh he's an n._b._a. Size dude for sure kind of impressive athletically but though i don't know how much he's able to apply that actually the environment but we'll see <hes> shaquille harrison was picked up a he's not guaranteed <hes> at makoko coca. Sorry <hes> from france france. He's a athletic guard shoots but i don't know were him than what i saw at summer league so this might be the abbas difficult team in the n._b._a. Right now to try to protect what their starting lineup is can i can. I give you a luc cornet conspiracy theory before we do the starting run up. How can i say no to that so i'm looking at looked up. Hulu coordinates agent is and it's jim tanner and he represents six n._b._a. Okay players one of which is that young so maybe there was a little you know. Wink wink nod nod odd here going on to say you know what that'll sign here but take a look at our boy unicorn net. I don't know that's what that's what my conspiracy conspiracy theories told me well. That is the thing in the n._b._a. And if you think it's strains that n._b._a. Agents pay so much attention to how they're helping lucrative get paid modestly in the league n._b._a. Agents probably develop more or credibility and more and more of an ability to kind of sell themselves when they take guys who are clearly starting outside of the league and getting them into a a multi-year caught like when the region i know that his agent felt very strongly that the hawks pay half million dollars that made bays more the you gave him the richest contract for an undrafted player ever so little things like that real due to agents so i i don't know that that's i wouldn't put that but on the conspiracy spectrum because things like that really really do matter to agent so to your point that could have had a whole lot to do with that big big fan. <hes> don't know how much you could help the team but we'll get into that so lineup otto porter shirts three you get to pick to thad young laurie lauri markkanen dwindle carter junior. I think that is there. I would think because one of the two agra who who do you have with marketing when when the cartagena so. I'm trying to remember where you're at a martin. I'm pretty i'm pretty high on him. I'm very a as a as a so. I saw you put that in the notes for me. Might i just assumption was it's going to be that marketing and i know markkanen struggled a bit one or maybe a lot when he was at defensively as a center but i think you know like who who is. He playing alongside as his co. You gotta think that that is gonna help them. I guess is is my point in front court if he's gonna play the five like a it. It's it's hard to have another four that could kind of <hes> you know at that price point could could have helped them as much there so my assumption is in carter coming off the injury last year and then i saw that he's dealing with like some sort of head and abdominal surgery. This summer like it just makes sense to me. The wendel carter would be the one coming off the bench between those three yeah and it might be a little bit of what the timber was the last couple of years with cat and gibson defendant at the five and you know when when the when the matchup called the is almost always the case unconventional type of big and that that's not quite as big as taj but he's not far off at all he's as the playing more and more central to the last few years as he gets older so i will always be there as well and then across the season. You know we'll we'll see what the objectives are but you don't bring in a guy like fed young and it's not like he's at a point where it's like a natural thing for him to kinda slides at the bench east. He's still way too good for that and then in the back court. You got sadder ascii. Okay you give him a ten million-dollar contract for more than one year that looks like a starter on the books and then white and done it would not be controversial. I think to bring white in off the bench to begin but at the same time i how invested are you in stunned. This team is not very interested in crisan if they don't agree to an extension by opening opening night in october then maybe he's just a little bit with party this year. Uh did he have a distinct view their backward. Who's gonna start well. I mean there's there's the boiling factor but i i just kinda looked at it. From guys who are like the you know late late lottery pick. I looked at the last two years guys drafted six to ten and and really pretty much all of them. Outside of jonathan is the past two years outside of jonathan isaac and obama <hes> who both we're either hurt while both were hurt and kind of didn't play well. All the other guys either started the entire year rookie year or after about ten fifteen in twenty games got themselves in the starting lineup so along that line of logic and also acknowledging that the bulls aren't exactly a i'm great team you would think they would. They would take a similar sort of path where maybe white doesn't start initially but you gotta think that that and that ten fifteen twenty games the season he's found his way into consistently starting for the team would be my assumption. Also maybe scarred from chris. Don's days in in minnesota and covering that team to i'm just not a a big believer in his game as a starter. I think he can bring he's a a nice guy to bring off the bench for defensive purposes but i felt they relied way too much on him offensively as a point guard even know if that's the best spot you want to be putting him in. He just makes more sense to me if you're going to have him on your team if you're going to be given a minutes bring them in off the bench as a as a backup ball handler at at most i i would go i would i mean he he would not be a priority for me if i were you know jim boylan and i wrote strongly almonds with my fault but of these three trying to pick you start next exactly obviously what we're doing. I didn't read it that way. This levine is is basically not really a distributor but he has point guard like russell eight point guard usage but doesn't generate the assists is he's not asking art. He's not cetera. Is it really either although he he played it to respectable level in washington as a backup or i started when when wall was out but you know in my mind white should be the party because there's a high ceiling of those three but when you bring it that young thomas cetera et cetera et cetera. It looks like you're trying to take the season someone seriously and all the noise chicago tells me that they are kind of invested wins and losses this year. I don't know that that's appropriate for them to reinvested. I would make development higher priority but the strange thing for done is that if he doesn't get an extent they retook since we've talked about the depth of the bit sixteen dollars keppel because where he was drafted a year from now might not be an issue depending on kind of what else they do financially between now and then dan but my guess is they're gonna start levin inside iran ski and then to your point in time white might ten fifteen twenty games in the season into the starting lineup and then saturday ask kind of goes to the bench so i think they're just paying way too much to bring him off the bench and then we'll you know we'll see but it starts game one. Do it's interesting because you brought up on carter like a lot of these guys are are there good six men. You'd be like if it was that or window carter or sad iran's ski. You're like yeah. I could see any of them. Being a strong you know top minute. Get her off your bench but when there's like three of them it kind of becomes tricky because part of me is like i mean sat around ski that you know that's fine. Bring him out start. You know start white levin and then just give sadder and ski like twenty five minutes a game off the bench. You know finagle it in you know some sort of fashion but then when when you're trying to get carter into the mix like oddly kind of deep in guys that they would you would figure they would want to give minutes to yet it so it is. It's a a bit of a of a conundrum but i'm with you too. I would assume i don't know like i would start saturday <unk> but i have a feeling they're just going to go white right away yeah that they it could and the primary reason to the point that i want to start is zack levinas so bad for the development larry markkanen they should be playing through markkanen as a as a creator because he can very uniquely for a guy who can shoot he can put the ball on the floor. He can dribble around. Most defenders argue put in front of him in levin kind of doing the stuff that he does just really kind of a racist updates from to do that. Sarah you can play within a scheme. He can help another player you get to the spot. He wants to have the ball. He's not going to be like everybody probably like ten assists a game. I kind of a quasi natural point guard position but he can help other the players on the on the court find the things that they need to find to develop but i think the most important objective for this year should be the development of larry marketing because i think that he has a the far greater elected to become a star player even as much as i like white marking is just such a unique guy his size of position in the robust set of ball skill so i'm mostly building my decision points around was best for marketing. I i don't know why they even put exactly being on this team last year unless they unless it was honestly just to sell tickets because he is a fungal watch play on on offense when he's not turning the ball over ten times game counterpoint though like levin has not had his in his two years there he has not had a competent point guard that he's played alongside so. I don't think he's completely happy with that result with us. Yeah that's fair. I just think there's ways where you can kind of square peg into a round hole and i think it could be interesting with some market in levin dribble handoff action i mean i i remember i remember zaken gordon chang actually you know that was like a main action for the two of them and while zak as his shortcomings like he is. He's a guy who can get to his shot and anne anywhere from fifteen feet to you know beyond the three point line in that sort of capacity. I think that could be dynamic with marken but that's that's a supplementary supplementing supplementing. You know action that they're going to be running. They need a maine guide to be the point guard and what i think killed them more was when they went done levin markkanen because is then you don't have you don't have a strong initiator to to just go into your normal. Flow of actions like sata rance key can be a true wise point guard for them. I don't think levin will have the same adverse effect market in that. Maybe he has the the the past two seasons and then this is really the first chance to kind of take ownership of the plan for the year beginning obviously right and as is our are kind of tendency here we want to say no. I'm not going to declare this a failure. Let's give it a chance to kind of develop a plan and see what happens you know by view when they brought in and they took advantage of washington really having so little financial room to kind of snag a guy away that the wizards really would've wondering back but i've watched the last season ryan archdeacon no. He's a pretty good basketball n._b._a. Player i agree especially helpful in offense but we want to play deepens your tiny to really have any impact and saturday and ski is kind of a six foot five riot ryan on the quite the doc is but definitely better getting to the brand so it's it's not just because they're both white pharmacy that but just in terms of guys that can kind of run the offense and and then cetera asking just gives you a little bit more on defense. I'm still hoping art. I think he'll give a lot more. I think actually give a lot more on defense. I think he got he. You got labeled with a little bit of defensive stench just from playing in washington lie. I mean washington. It's awfully oh. I think is a good. What's the player yeah okay. I was just i mean i think he's a major defensive upgrade archer jack no yeah so i think szadkowski can give them on offense chance something close to what does a very good passer awesome to to run the best shooters in the league and just has nothing on defence etcetera asking gives them. Maybe eighty percents. What archie doctor gives them the offense because legitimate disregard you know so that's what i think so so the october deadline for contract extension i mentioned done and sixteen minutes or cap hold if they don't get to an agreement and then denzel valentine and i don't even know what his status is i. I don't think he played it all last year. I missed the whole the injury it's been strange. The last few days i think basketball references updating the team site so it's hard to navigate but so without valentine valentine only know if he's ready to play right now so it seems very unlikely that the guy that didn't play last year. They're gonna reach an extension and let's it's a very small extension and i don't know how much this new coaching staff senators invested and then done. I also have to wonder as greg. I've been talking about the free classes so depressed next year that done might just want to bet on himself himself and say you know what i'm going to go and have a good year and then people are gonna be looking for worthwhile guys to add to the team and i'm going to call to the market but i think it's very unlikely that dan the bulls routed extension by opening night. Do differently yeah. I mean i just last year is something i looked into a lot with the extension market just because you know the wool head dire sarge <unk> stones and a couple of couple of guys who are eligible for it and if you look back historically or particularly last season like kind kinda the line to draw in the sand from minimum starting salary for a guy who is going to get an extension was about eleven twelve million dollars and i just don't think chris dunn's at that level and it's i mean i don't even think like his that just seems to be the you know the going rate so if you're not to me if you're not if you're not somebody who's gonna be signing for ten million dollars annually then. It's it does isn't even a question so for me. I don't think i don't even think it's really i don't think it's even go to come up with with the bulls just because i mean dunn's been relatively underwhelming there they were just talking about. They're pretty loaded and the in the back court as we're it just loaded with guys that they want to give minutes to like chris done. That trade worked out fine for them like chris. Don falls off as a casualty like soviet. See see what is market is restricted free agency researcher for agencies screwing people of late like you might get. You just might get a good a good matching offer on it. I mean like you you point out the the free agency. Class is is weak next year so maybe don gets a little bit more than when i'm picturing but i i don't know if i'm chicago. Just see what see what don brings you this year and you know test the market. Let him test the market next summer also that other option if white light and levin or kind of functioning pretty good as three guard group they might trade deadline. You never know if a team needs and he might be an an interesting piece to for a team to pick up. That'd be a good a good guy to pick up. You know as like again like i said a sixth seventh eighth man who comes out the bench and give you some like i could see chris don planter enter playoff series like discount marcus smart like yeah for sure and marcus smart you put that so <hes> and then <hes> i'm kind of before we kind of talk about how evaluate the other guys so a lot of how greg kind of starting with some teams in terms here's of like for example with washington we were like do we see a path of them really convincing bradley bill to sign extent commit to being on this team beyond two years and i said known greg you don't really it sounds like chicago really wants to chase that eighth seed in the eastern conference playoffs i. I don't think they're good enough to do it. I know the eastern conference. Verses is a little bit bottom heavy depending upon how much better some of the younger teams get gotten from last year to this year but let's say for example. They're like okay. We we believe were thirty five team. When we're going to try to do everything we can to get five or six more wins out of the season. Do you even see a path of thirty five games this rosser or not i don. I mean the way i know this is a little bit ahead in our in our outline and just like looking at looking at the east and it's yeah it's bad of like the the a the eighth seed team is gonna is gonna be underwhelming so we're like orlando detroit troy something like that but i i have chicago in in that atlanta washington tear which is pretty far below orlando on detroit's things. He's really got a clip for them to to get those extra five six wins and i think it's just as likely that chicago falls into the cleveland charlotte. Let new york like morass of just. I don't know we don't know how these thad young cool. He's nice skis but those aren't real needle movers like it's it's got levin is gonna have to take a big step for markkanen carter like i think a lot will have to happen for them to be a what do you think how. How many wins do you think the a._c. Is gonna need forty forty one forty two. That's a lot yeah. It could be a year. They were like thirty seven kinda gets right. They're kind of like that. You're that book got. Brooklyn got in two thousand fifteen. I think with like thirty six thirty seven wins it was it was a really bad east. Indiana got in with thirty nine like three years ago or something like that but it so if it's going to happen just kind of do anything zoom out twenty-ninth on offense last year and you got guys like zach levine on the roster korea lauri markkanen etcetera etcetera if they're going to make the playoffs to be at above average top fifteen week <hes> because the defense is not going to komo along with much in my opinion were they. How much better was the defense. <hes> the offense ones porter got there because he played i yeah i thought he brought a lot for them. He did and he actually had a lot of game. Winning shots in was a thug. Oh they played through him late in close games and stuff so yeah. I mean it's but again it's it's so hard to know because we saw a certain point in washington for those years. You went to chicago in so you know like we talk. We talk on a losing team. Sometimes it's easy to put up nice numbers or two a low leverage kind of situation and they weren't chasing the playoffs when portland that rosser you know so but you know so. It's hard to know like well. How much do be extract front. We saw in washington. Supporter versus the increase in production in along the increase in opportunity to get shots. It'd be the party of the offense. Cetera et cetera so again and twenty six post post trade deadline yeah just bad office. Oh yeah yeah it wasn't that much of the playoffs. I just say the autumn quarter exactly you're going to have to have such good offenses seasons that moves them towards at least being an average the offense or better 'cause i just don't see especially continue to play young guys on defense like carter is almost none of us hudson probably still going to play quite a bit. I like him at the prospect but playing first or second year guys at the forty five is typically the recipe to to release the defense to okay. Let's so we're i. I don't understand you don't understand assignment but as we always say here fokker purpose. We don't ever criticize fans be excited about their team. Phantom is a different thing. We're doing analysis and analysis or separate. Things and i'm not going to put one above above other. No it's there. It's your team atlanta right like <hes> the chicago's just done something to shift their expectations like chicago should be about as good as atlanta china and everybody's all excited about atlanta got some young interesting pieces and they're you know they're just building more slowly like if you could like delete elite. The narrative of chicago was pushing for the aceede and just think about them like atlanta. There's plenty to like about this team like you and i both really really like marketing. I me i'm <music>. I'm higher than you are on online. I think that's an interesting young player. Who could i do think you could take a big step forward offensively carpet. Let's see more. Let's see saturday skiing young fit. There are things to be excited about really excited about with his team without projecting them to be a playoff team and i think i think that's where we both. We both sit at it just it. It just seems a little bit bizarre that whenever i have a conversation about chicago people like oh yeah you know they might be able to be the a._c. Now mike okay well. Let's slow roll on that a little bit yeah other thing that the same way young players like a coach. We don't really know what his brand is. <hes> can he get xactly being for example to keep hammering that got to do things that not only put numbers that contribute towards wins. You know that's the kind of thing they're looking for. He has an instinct like a lot of players due to like wave off the pick and roll even the coaches call for a pick and roll because he'd prefer to work in isolation and attack. You know so that's that's what players do do the switch sometimes sometimes it just takes a certain voice on a coaching staff and like minnesota has chicago really chased beefing up their coaching staff pass off season you sometimes it's that assistant coach has whatever for whatever reason that voice gets through and it happens so or i'm gonna have fun watching the team because there's some fun young players on the team. I'm not going to have supervised right stations but if it really clicks why that's something that gets me excited. Does he play breakthrough and overcome. Some of the things that holding back is overall value to his team okay so we'll we'll take her first break here quebec and the talk about the young guys. How do we see this team kind of taking shape in terms of hoping to see kind of a young core coalesce around other in become something that really makes you cited about what the team to beat other and so after this break okay okay days let's fast forward to two three years and you know who the best three players we can rank them first second third or to say this group of three if they really kind of clicked together because it takes a nucleus not just some good players i mean that's what you guys are kind of. Being there in minnesota is that you know towns towns and wiggins and whoever else never really came together as a core and became something that looked like you could build on now thankfully from minnesota towns as talented player in the league. <hes> also have anyone on that level my mind but you don't have to have one on someone on that level to have nuclear building from its so so for me. It's already kind of you know my thinking here that i think marketers should be more supportive player. I think if this team is coached and umbrella correctly that lori market surprised if he's not eventually kind of a perennial all star team becomes winning team and he becomes as i think it can be see that he looks like a guy that could be five six seven games in his career to me. Second eyelid put toby white and explicitly like i said before he it's so good on and off the ball that versatility from a team perspective could be really fantastic and he's also very comfortable kind of switching from role to role sometimes. Sometimes you'll see a guy that has it in their d._n._a. D._n._a. to do both but he's like okay this season my role was appointed and in this season my role is i'm laying off the ball and that kind of static across the season that he what's so uniquely valuable but to me is that from possessing possession he can just he's happy to around the corner. Come up on the screen or to the pig is almost like he doesn't care is one of those kind of healthy types of apathy that some really good athletes have in terms of. I'll just just do whatever and he's he's really. He's really good at it. That's okay because it gives you. The flexibility of putting whether we're kinda guard next to him and i just haven't seen enough of carter order. I know that a lot of people that i trust their draft. Valuations were very very high on him. I like him as a defender and rebounder in what it looks like as the shooter shooter but i haven't really seen him move in a game that tells me what kind of agility so for example you look in phoenix and the under eight and looks like he looks like ah reborn he milan to me just in terms of how big he is in the way he moves but he's just kind of a step slow got a little better last year. I have no idea what carter is in terms of <hes>. Can you be a defensive anchor or not but i think it's going to be three guys that really come together as carter at the five market at the four and then cubby kobe bite as a combo guard and if porter becomes a long term part of this team and that way to that that much better. I think it's less important van the young guys that you really want to see. Let's take two to three years to build so that's how i see in terms of a cord. That could come together what you see here so i'm i. I'm i am not. I do not feel the same way as you do about kobe white and i don't pretend to be draft expert but he someone i've looked into <hes> substantially i just i naturally gravitate towards what i feel like. I know more than what. I think you know could develop into something. I feel like to me. It's clear that it's markkanen is is the first one on that list and then i understand that that maybe kobe wait could become that as the combo guard for the reasons you described a diverse skillset that would allow him to fit in with a lot of different guards there. I just think that i think that otto porter would be the one i would put second there and he's not on a contract for two or three more years but he just turned twenty six six years old two years from now still very much be in his prime. I i really liked what i saw him last year. In a lot of people you know latch onto the shot forty nine percent from three three months he was acquired but he was so much more than that for for for that team and we saw we saw like we saw what he what the hope was that he would become in washington which is more than just a very basic three d. player and he was just he was active in more facet of the game and i think there's a i'm very interested to see what eighty two games for him in a in a big role in a very average team will will be this and i think he could be. I think he could be that second guy and then and then it kind of it falls for me into carter white or levine as as the third guy and i think levin we it's easy to you know to to slander him a little bit because has the contract is more than he's worth <hes> but but as a player he he's also every two years from now. We'll still be very young and could develop into something thing in and then with carter what i really liked. He was more athletic and more active than in what i watched last year than than i anticipated for my my draft analysis of him so i think at the end of the day they have a lot of guys who could fall into that that three and become a good core for them. Which is if you're a bad team in the east like what more workiny. What more can you kind of asked for but i think if everything clicks right for them it's markkanen porter on a good deal and white slash carter really elevate into something of the they share the the third banana cedar. Whatever you wanna call it okay yeah i i. I know from all the different about highest white anybody. That's interesting to me. I it's it's not it's not where i fallen. It's not where i've heard a lot of other people fall but but i i respect your opinion on him. I'm interested to see him in in real n._b._a. Action where then yeah i can kind of you know take the first twenty five games of the season and start to formulate an m._b._a. Opinion on him versus a draft opinion and i'm not i'm not like a <hes> righteous about my hobbies defensive at all. We hit them something. We miss on some but i see there but we'll see if i'm correct time time. We'll always reminded us smart. We aren't as often as the case all right labor under question for you really quick does lauri markkanen sign a max ax contracts at the end of his rookie deal yes unless he just doesn't wanna be in chicago after it would have to turn into a kristaps situation i for some reason you know you a guy that came up through the ranks in europe. It is at least play when you're in college and so he's a little bit more known to the kind of a sphere of fuel stuff like that but if i mean the bulls in office despite the good kind of trucker drafting grafting and i think they're evaluating players and stuff like that. They're still kind of a mess in terms of organizationally that i don't think anyone that they kind of have their stuff together right and so they nobody's the knicks or the kings. We hope we've kind of moved on a little bit but we'll see but if they continue if they do something else it just makes absolutely zero sense ordeal direction marketing might end up saying yeah. I want to get out of here and as like like two years ago when you're talking about john at the time. It was like you know books. Fans didn't wanna hear it but the bucks organization was not in good shape with janas toward the shook it up and now they're good teams and were better coaches league etcetera and the thing we talked about was it may not be biden's idea because once a really good player is sending as a player in the league and starts. It's kind of interacting with the best fifteen twenty players if that's where marketing is headed. His peers will start to tell him. Do you need to be the situation you know and that's kind of how it happens and so that's the only thing thing i think steering away from that four bulls fans all hope that the front office gotta cleaner plan and not him off so that's my reaction right and the barrel. I asked myself that i was kinda looking into it. I you know i i pointed to deandra russell and jamal murray who both got while murray got the max extension this summer summer and deandre also just signed his own max deal in in golden state and those are two good young players but they're what top forty players in the n._b._a. Top fifty like i guess marketing doesn't have to be as good as we think. He is going to be for him to get a max contract because that's just kind of like the going rate for good young player wants. The rookie. Deal is up and i just think that could that could become problematic for them because they don't have they don't have their nikolai yokich other than markkanen so so if marketing is just most of the forty fifth best player in the league and he now he's on this max deal and and reporters deal is it they could expect these teams can get expensive quicker than they get good and that's just a sort of scary reality it is that's exactly what minnesota right total they they pay the pay their players before they really had a winning formula right and it's one of the reasons i as a hawks fan my kind of back on its way i'm glad that the traded taurean prince paid him even let us you know you gotta pay your best players kind of first before you start really decided to pay around them and real question in minnesota is is wiggins. Good enough have to be the best player on a really good team. There's many questions about that right. Those those second deals are dangerous. They are there just dangerous and they even the hawks need to make sure that they want to pay john collins what they wanna pay before they before they pay trade out. It's looking good but i i think he has another step to demonstrate before you realize okay. We're gonna pay him ahead of trae. You know it just feels like his agent is going to be. I think just over and over again these guys entering their fifth a year once a rookie deals up are just getting paid fat contracts and then and in the line of what max players keeps dipping and keeps dipping their and then all of a sudden. You're like well. We gotta give john collins max contract like that. Just that makes things that just makes things tricky and you get expensive fast and i don't know it's it's kind of an epidemic right now. Yeah and this is the year like a year from now we talk about. What will the collins collins. You know in in what he does this year. We'll have a lot to do with whether he's deserving or not. He he's not playing at a level where it's a no-brainer next contract right now. He could get there this season but it was pretty good. Stop you know at that point. There is you don't you don't want if if porter's not materially making material difference to the how the organization is is is functioning in a healthy way and same with levin cetera marketing then you just what kind of random from there. I'm hoping white becomes a one b here obviously we we talked about our differences lasting over under vegas tinsel more than those people were excited about this team chasing record thirty thirty and a half. I'm i've been going pretty silly over on these but i think this is closer to a twenty five thirty one team to be frank interesting. I i would go. I mean i think they can be like they can be the eleventh twelfth best team in the in the east and still hit the over of that. I i see them. Probably thirty two wins so i would. I wouldn't feel super confident about it but i don't know i hate when people say it is but like there's people are going to need to win some some games in the in the east like that though the west can't win all the games and i don't think they need to greatly lately exceed any sort of expectations to win thirty two even thirty five games like they're going to be greatly. Exceeding expectations make the playoffs but i think i i i believe market and takes another step this year and if the if there's a reasonable progression from the rest of the guys thirty two. I don't think should be that hard for them so i would take the over yeah. My view is twenty two last year bottom. Five both the court last year you lose robin lopez the ad that young. You're gonna be playing more young guys this year than you did. Last year i think on on the whole not that they're like young veterans last year like puertas and parker. We're not very helpful in terms of winning but i think the twenty to thirty to ten games as watt then it's unusual and they don glass here though and like and rotate yeah yeah but kind of lopez in an he would they would have won more games that they played him the whole time like they did a lot of weird stuff last if they can be competent in just like management management of the team and as you said you acknowledged winning. They are certainly trying this year thad and sanski signal that like i. I don't know i mean yeah. You're that's a good point. Ten is a big jump but twenty two was low with some. I don't know it's on the fringe. I think it's it's well. Maybe you're not on the fringe. I'm on the frank leaning over well. There's something up to the fact that last year. The plan was changing constantly. I mean you know <hes> <hes>. They traded eventually. Port is the parker and brought in. You know a fire the coach i mean yeah it was. It was a mess. Let's if they have a plan for and that helps probably we're five win so true colors there so dallas next thirty three and forty nine last year. They were not trying anyone games at the end of the year. They were not alone offense twentieth defense eighteenth net rating twenty-first. That's more respectable a little bit more respect respect. We view it through the lens of playing really tough western conference schedule players lost dirk and trey burke so i don't know if there's to prevent urban. Could that co located next to one another but that's that's really all. They lost and they have seventeen players on the books right now. That's not excluding any players on exhibit ten contracts tracks. The cap holds of devon harrison slob. Mezeray are still there. They would need to move a guaranteed contract to make room for one or both of those guys players added ed kristaps asterik play last year so he's kind of an addition even though he's not new to the team obviously dhillon right who i liked as an addition. He's a good good <hes> versatile guard that kind of guy you can put next to luca in this versatility just unlock certain lineups. He's not an awesome individual player but i think he's the type of player you look to put next to luca steph curry at shooting on this rosser boban in the draft roby who i think is an interesting condition. I don't know if he's going to really help them that here with good prospect and they have antonius cleveland on the two-way contract. This is like his third way awake to a contract king man he is but he's probably with twenty six point now if not twenty seven so not really sure what grind and keep grinding grind yes orlando getting certain point guard that atlanta fans still kinda kinda like with your. What are your favorite players there. Uh-huh yeah good luck to us so starting lineup luca incur steps. I think dylan writes starts just because we do go into that. I thought why just i think he just versatility till it. I think he's defend point guards in the play off the ball offensive the liquid play point guard. It's a little bit of like i've been situation. Ben simmons needs to defend a four so i love zaire. Smith hopefully being healthy this year. Nothing's smith and bit will play a ton where basically there will be the four philly a little bit different model here on offense and be the point guard on defense here. I think deloitte defends opposing point guards they spent the money they spent on him to go get him and then that gives luka chance to defend a bit of a three or four depending on what the maktum isn't where they want to go so i think cassatt that switching positions basically pointing the court of the other a cleveland. I think being cars always weird with like starting biggs and kind of it goes on literally my number. One note is carlisle's weird that he is. He is then curry. I think you just need your best shooter to start with luca but i mean you could find him either. Yeah curry 10-city better playing off the bench and not playing kind of workload. He was really useful playing thing along with david cd last year but you know courtney lee stillness roster easing expiring contract if they want to make room for to see to say eh bring back one of the guys that mezeray who seem to like it would be surprised at all to see courtney lee. You just get moved in some form or fashion but he's knocking non player. Brunson is really one of the better players that they brought in through the draft. Louis wasn't the first round round draft pick. He's a really good start. I wouldn't be shocked to see him start instead of dylan right but he's not the defender which had right there brunson run an n._b._a. Office for sure totally powell exchange exchange for cleveland but they're just they're so good on the court. I do think that luca in cleveland. I have a lot of good chemistry then dory and finish smith definitely the bench bo bonds. It's not typically senator you play every seat but he would finish smith. He started a bunch last year too. It's like there are completed 'nigma. I have no idea who starts though well i think part of it is he's wiping the slate clean and realizing this team. That's gonna try to win this year and so that was not the priority once what's they lost contact with the a playoff field they just they packed up and call it a season and that's where i think you you don't see much. They still have justin jackson. The roster you heard him broke off the basketball. That's about it says thirteen banner doesn't include j._j. Berea reminder last year. I talked about it a lot before down that rick carlisle would never play j._j. In luca together in the first half he would seemingly always surprise every single team inlet scale schedule the second half they almost eighteen minutes to have and they're a plus fifteen point four they. You were so awesome together. I just don't know where he is and his recovery from the injury so it's it's very ambiguous i kind of laid out some of the things that i think are likely to happen with a real on winning but do you think wildly different than i do. They're terms rotation sucks up well. This is my biggest thing and i i was going to bring it up with chicago too and i'm just thinking about it around. The league is there's a lot of these teams with you know smaller stretcher front courts and and then there's a lot of teams in the league now who have big bruising front courts obviously got philly with horford and embiid and even harris mixed in there too and then even he mike memphis yes you got valentinus and jackson go up the drummond and griffin that there's a lot of teams who are going to start to big guys that are going to batter teams and i think mm for dallas. That's a big question. What do you do what you do when you're playing those teams. Let kristaps great rim defender but is is he going to be the guy you put on andre drummond german karl anthony towns yokich like i think dwight powell is going to have is gonna play a big role for them in his i mean probably gonna have to start a lot. What anytime you're playing those those big teams because yes posting up and all that isn't sexy anymore but but teams are going to do that. You're gonna you're gonna play the wolves. You're gonna cats going to post you up. You gonna play the sixers. Embiid's gonna post yup like i. I don't know it'll be really interesting for almost more well. Chris have some really interesting on both sides of the ball but how decide to use him defensively particularly coming off of an injury and his big lanky weird frame like who are you gonna have him guard guard like what what what is your. What is your thinking there. When when dallas plays a bigger team particularly pertains a kristaps yeah well for me the value boban so against you're going against kind of a normal matchup there's not increase risks for banking with kristaps right blin might not play against teams tend to play smaller smaller lineups and he might play twenty minutes against an embiid or drummond or a soul those guys and there are enough guys enough those guys'll like even deandre jordan. It's kinda had a status kinda slip but you still got to keep them off the glass and you do to do it and so i think that and the average game if you will these center but the shelby split between cla powell typically but then if you're going to against those are one guy gets it off or just has reduced minutes work with at night live on takes on some of that so boba can actually good salon. I measure measure a lot like where yep where he he played against those types of teams and and in mezeray assery when he does that across the whole season tends to get banged up and wear down a little bit i think bo bo bo bonds singular value on the teams protect kristaps so if plea gets it's hurt or powell gets hurt or for whatever reason they're not playing well. Tripping the winning bon-bons there to make sure that rick rick carlisle never says myself apple juice that need to run a really want to run chris with five for thirty six minutes tonight over here to make sure that i have to have it in my mind so it's it's. It's interesting because that's that's a tactic. You can take in the in the regular season right but going forward. It's it's a bigger question if their playoff aspirations operations if not this year i mean they're probably expecting to make the playoffs next year and be <hes> a higher seeded team two years from now and what what does that look like for kristaps going forward because you can't play bogue on in the playoffs consistently night in night out what if that team has most playoff teams will will have a point guard who can punish boban and pick and roll over and over again or just pull up from three every time if he's dropping in the pick and roll coverage like i don't know i it seems like they have some band aid options right now but they got a they got to address that or christopher has to just prove that he he can be a guy who you can occasionally put out thirty six minutes at the five. I don't feel comfortable with that. No it could be a thing where again positioned switching on offense. You might see chris. Fluctuate five in cleveland is the ford and on the other in the court cleveland really physical guy he might defend at the five and christopher the ford now. The question is how does cristiano space depending. What type of four another team has that shifts. It shifts the question but at least it's just that away from kind of is this gonna get us into trouble in terms of getting hurt so you know i i don't wanna being with first string centers eighty two games all year long for sure i think they make a move this year or at at at the latest this summer to to address that and get a another good to great big alongside kristaps because they have their picture all tied up into the future so really really the only asset they have left a trade to acquire someone is there i next season which will probably be a lottery pick like i think they go and get their version of. I don't know who it is is but their version of like al horford. I think it's the same line of thinking. Did they kind of wanted. They want horford bad that i agree if you in in in my mind the mavericks are don nelson. Junior is what danny ainge pretends to be. A dealer is ready to wheel and deal anytime any moment anything keeping. It has the perfect owner careful when i say mark cuban is a perfect owner because there's there's been things dishing but in terms of like to have the support port of your owner tend to make deals kinda vapor. You know that isn't team that will do it. Angel always claim to have gotten to the inside but it's funny ice for a two straight days last summer. I sat like a couple of hours behind done junior and he is wild to interact with people and stuff like that and and that kind of comes is off but take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about just what works in the sea from luca kristaps together. Maybe three or four minutes of it but after the break we'll that's really what the season is about the mavericks. I think this year i think there is some noise about wanting to win and that would be kind of nice to have but i think it'd be icing on the cake this season's about really eh integrating luca and kristaps as the core team and then seeing what needs to be put around them to have excessive future year so one last quick break then a little ludicrous so jumping off point lots of pick and roll with these guys got almost a perfect pick and pop <hes> <hes> but the thing that's a little different. It's carlisle's typically head centers really the dive so he's had january jordan a for a stretch and tyson chandler was really successful on the year so he hasn't really had a a guy that offers complete the five can really pick and pop so that's gonna look a little bit different but i think that it that's going to look fine to remind you that when kristaps works works in the post it in those situations lucas can have diminished value off the ball. Although he looks like he's going to be a good knockdown shooter spot player. It's just that he's a lot more able to volunteer and so just in terms of like phil. Goal attempts is a lot of just the two of them working together and they just kind of re but the defense is doing kind of punishment because kristaps can get around. I mean a a big guy suit. The ball is obviously kind of more unicorn kind of type material but anything specific. You're looking to see these two guys kind of the foundation of what's look what you just gotta find. I don't have concerns about luca being able to maintain his volume in he's gonna put pressure on the defense by getting auto all the way to the bucket and on his game and his step back game like that. I think that's going to look very similar to last year. You know theoretically you know. Another year improved to be a step forward but the questions slash concern. Is you know how how do you use along with when you have luca doing that. How do you use kristaps at volume and outside of the pick and roll that that's that's kinda hard you know it's hard to picture <hes> with him because he's not a guy who you can necessarily see them like just dropping it on the block a ton so there are they just going to be a team. Who's just like all day. Pick enroll. I don't know it. It's it you would you would think they would have a diversity of their sets and i just think in that diversity porzingus will get lost a little bit yeah and if he's playing along with a like say powell powell's dynamic leaper really good <hes> presence at the rim on offense and you who is kristaps could be a guy that's comfortable sitting in the corner and just being a threat as spot up shooter that we is easy think about c._o. Like like when kim did that in charlotte he was doing it just to get a break. You needed fifteen possesses tonight we just sort of the corner kind of caught us but he could knock down shot at the ball failed him that could be a ah big kristaps students to kinda good point what's weird comparison but makes sense yeah so that's something look for look to but if teens are kind of really trying to defend them away from the pick and pop and what that looks like typically is bringing a lot of help from the weakside towards chris upsetting up from three point line as a potential shooter kinda forced kristaps to have the died towards the rim especially injury. He's gonna get challenged physically a lot this year and they're going to bang on him a lot if he gets inside and then what i'm looking i think that's going to happen. Some teams are going to force him to play physically close to the rim and with that i'm going to see does he brace that does he was like oh. I'm going to be the free throw line. You know fifteen times fifteen to throw line tonight. Is that are kind of like. We saw his last year where teams were just like. We're going to just bang on you like crazy and beat which just embrace it. He's fine taking twenty twenty two free throws. He's fine. Now you know beat is much much more physical presence than kristaps. Chris doesn't have that big body etcetera and so does is it painful for an unpleasant if it is still as you still competitive enough to embrace that there's value in me getting these trips. This offense looks like as you get fouled vowed you embrace it and you come back and you look at other foul. You put the other team foul trouble you though the team in the bonus and so i think that's going to be the apart from just what carlyle does schematically to get integrated and have them kind of multiplying off of each other's talents is teams aren't going fourth kristaps inside his points. They're they're gonna physical with. How does he respond to that. That's one of the really big looking for this year absolutely and it's going to depend you brought up. It's going to depend on who is playing alongside whether it's powell or cleopa particularly that'll affect his his offense of role and then like i said before if it's cleveland or powell who who's kristaps garden and there's just does much of a pounding he's gonna take on the defensive end as as he will as you're alluding to in the like embiid style on the offensive end <hes> it's gonna be a unreal sorta game that car and if anybody is able to do it you'd think it'd be carlisle but there's gonna be a real game depending on who the opponent is they're playing and how they're going to need to match chop and then also going to need to weigh how does playing powell versus cleopa a fact porzingas just in a vacuum and that's gonna take some some finagling on carlisle's point probably a little bit a guessing checking boban who he brought up to like. It's gonna i don't think i don't think it's going to be one or two things it's going to be there's going to be a lot of different angles to protecting kristaps. I wonder how much i just kind of like wears on u._s. Team when you're like okay we're making all of these adjustments for this one player because he's just kind of frail like what does that do to the mentality of a group absolutely they. I mean this is a young team like this has a lot of young talent it it it does come down to these guys that are committed to each other. They really by we saw an every carlisle team has right like that's what he's maybe best and and we saw that wobble phillies year right. We're been kind of disengaged at one point it looked like and then he were seeming to click and i still have questions russians about whether they want to do that. They're not i reverend questions about that but then the other part of this is kind of getting into the psychological side of this i talk about bin belt. He wants to play vests and beat is the absolute worst typos center. You can put on a team for a bit. You know here in dallas. Twi powell is an awesome center in transition. He loves to run. He loves to jump and play fest. That's not really who chris is at its core. He's rather kind kind of half court possession etc etc if lucas like when i'm playing with powell i'm having more fun. I'm going to do more of the things that i want to do. How does that impact the way he sees kristaps as a partner in crime for the next eight ten years whatever dallas hopes it is. That's the thing and i think that i think that in philly you know i think there's the lineups with simmons and zaire smith and and cetera richard brent brett's gotta give been told minutes of the night or at least ten at night so so it been can do enough of that where he feels like okay. I'm getting to do enough of that. I probably can't run thirty nine minutes anyway full pace but he has. Let's see here where crawls to monitor okay. Lucas really developing an affinity played with white because they're running pushing. The ball loves it. How can i make sure that that doesn't really become a negative kind of optics situation that we're looking at craft steps and really do my best with this guy. That's something to watch. I think it's it's a thing that carlo has to manage. He's he's probably very trustworthy with it but it's going to manage. Glenn isn't just like the crux of the modern m._b._a. Right now though where there's just so how much you need multiple diverse scores who are diverse or dynamic scorers who are dynamic in different ways yet that leads to this weird need for baton passing thing and it's just different than the league was fifteen twenty years ago where the offense was naturally more inclusive of five players and it wasn't like pick and choose is but the way the n._b._a. Is moving. Is that whether it's philadelphia or maybe it happens. You know here in dallas. There's going to be the need for a little bit of baton passing and that's that's it's it's just not a natural thing in the game of basketball and it it requires buying as you brought up and it requires a coach able to you know to figure that out and with carlisle being. I don't know he's not. I don't wanna say he's an old school guy but it is this team is t- maximized by effective baton passing or does carlisle even buy into that. It's a it's a real interesting kind of existential m._b._a. Question but it's it's very pertinent for these these young teams with dynamic guard and dynamic big. How do you make that work yeah for sure it in a big part of that is guys entering the league like as i for example is number one pick and so stop for a second insane number. One pick should be on some sort of path eventually that that it's kind of like some outcome is winning m._v._p. But the number one picks think think about that but right now you look at ben simmons. Did you see a path for him winning m._v._p. I mean i think it'd be fine if he's a thirteen fourteen point game scorer from his career awesome on defense defense really good passer really good assist numbers you top three league every year. Triple doubles not a really not ever going to top ten scoring leagues. That's kind of almost disqualifier all fire with christopher if tops out on this roster and the system really swearing sixty points a game kenny except that so for example can ben except that his entire career or at least like no. I want to play in a team. I'm the best player and the things around me to maximize me as a player or you can just say championship. Since i can't. I'm not saying is that i'm not i don't want to be an observer on the outside looking in go on oh that guy selfish like no. That's a natural alpha competitor thing and i think that's where coaches just who can get players to see kind of al horford in them if you will you know for never having chased numbers but you know a lot of things helping basketball but i asked greg the last episode accorded. Do you know what basketball references hall of fame indicator is. Horford was ten percent and you know it's it'd be a little higher than that so it's like can he except if he's never gonna ever twenty points on the season with kristaps. Two guys do have to say okay. We're gonna try to win. I believe in disraeli's so that we can all make some sacrifice to become the best product we can be and sometimes tends to happen and sometimes not and we have so many examples of history of wind players kobe shocked me and the best example ever you know but that's that's the thing and especially two young guys. That's why this year is so critical that carlisle get them feeling good about what their collective or separate than collective kind of role makeup is as something. They're go to phoenix just this year three four five years. Whatever that's that's the thing i'm gonna be watching in dallas. You see if it works out totally. I it's the thing is is both of them. They probably will have those desires to be like you. Put me on a different team. You know for simmons liam. Put me on it. Put me on a team like the sacramento kings last year like that will just unleash me sir yep and then but at the same time. Can he be wise enough or can you have someone to get in his ear to say yeah but that only unleashes you for you to become uh-huh truly dominant player and probably an m._v._p. Calva player you have to have somebody who fits in with you in that system that optimizes you and and and that just requires some sacrifice i wonder like with for kristaps and for him they both they both have the taste of it early on in their career simmons when he has played without embiid and and kristaps just in new york where you know they were the guy and your team's just weren't that good without the second star. So can you realize that you need. The second started hard to do it. Nobody's doing it on their own anymore. There's no way there's no way where you're just. There's this number one guy and then you move down. It's like a clear clear big drop off number number two. You're not winning a championship. You're not a you. Just you just aren't. Maybe maybe you get a fake ross m._v._p. Out of it like he did but you're not. You're not doing anything anything that is super meaningful and wins in less you make some sacrifice to optimize a system with you and your co star. That's that's how it works in the n._b._a. And we're we have a veterinary for example this year with harden and russ russ give hardened space that he needs or says hard and realize i need more help than i really invited chris paul to give me and because westbrook is mercurial as he is and there are times he drives me crazy times he'd just blows me away of his speed and his impact is athlete attacking the rim etcetera stop but you can get those guys to kind of see what they can be to kind of make it work now for dallas. We're talking about a core core committing for the kind of the rise in the league and i think that that's that's something that i'd never hear talked to steve kerr getting klay to embrace his role getting onto israel steam but same for staff to give space for katie eighty to come in your that happened that resulted in three championships clay could even after the state was like no i wanna go somewhere illegal scoring the best part that's never going to happen is stuff is always going to be dynamic thing unless you're getting a little older but we'll see but but that's to your point that is a a definite thing that has to happen for a team to put themselves on a championship trajectory and in dallas we one of the most interesting kind of story lines of the season for me to watch for sure so they have so just knows if these over under numbers are moving. I'm not capturing it. My my mythology is thought is a tori methodology trying to get in there is. I just took a snapshot. The first came because it wasn't working with like a static list but they i i saw was forty-one. Which seems sounds like super high to me. I got i got forty and a half and it's it's updated so it hasn't it hasn't moved that much. That seems still super super high to me well. They're just i mean. There's just eight teams in the what are you just believing that there's just eight teams in the west and then it's like dallas new orleans and sacramento like convincing themselves their playoff teams. I think i think sacramento has the pieces like i think like for example. I i disagree okay. We'll we'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes but when you add the veterans they added a one two three and five queiroz of timorese yeah but but they need to be better than those are good solid veteran moves. I agree but you're going to need to be better than portland or san antonio. Oh yeah they they need someone to encounter some unpredictable versity this year for sure. I think they're on the outside looking but i think they're right. There of somebody kind of stumbles so yeah. I'm not predicting sacramento is the second was closer to that. The dallas is that's what i'm saying so out of that tier and i say that just out of the and this is nine ten eleven in vegas. I guess orders them is dallas forty in half new orleans thirty eight and a half and sacramento thirty seven and a half. Is that order you see those teams in taos new orleans sack it depends pins in greg and i just whenever the pelicans is wins the <unk> in new orleans. It seems like when you had j._d. Riddick to it and as i said j. radical tell you my team is a playoff team. It's been forever since his team to the playoffs and he does do a a lot of little things and visible things help but my my you don't go on jayjay radical way from philadelphia if you're not trying to do something in the wins and losses column derrick favors to yeah favors as well nico meli the guy from europe is going to help them a lot and so i just think that the the pieces that i think if they really want to get kinda like washington wants to do a bill i think they want to commit drew holiday to stick around and go through the kind of shift in and and be the face of the veterans face of the franchise in kind of guide. It'd be the leader there basically the season drew the he wants to stick around on and do this become part of this zaylon kind of thing and so i i honestly i would put new orleans if they take the whole season seriously ahead of sacramento. I just think there are. I think they have better kind of that. You have your top talent and a second group of they're really good in that second more than sacramento and then i would put dallas behind find sacramento obviously ahead of phoenix. Is there anyone else on the memphis o._t._c. Minnesota memphis could win more games dallas if they want to in my mind just they they still vegas hasn't thirteen below thirteen below dell's shoot. If you have a whole season of the jae crowder on your team helping whole season of valentino's establishing the defense but they could play the atlanta was year ago like like no job marantz starting to gain through russell. He's healthy if that's what they do. The product games 'cause young point guards typically. They'll help you with a lot of games. Even as good as trey was last year a lot of what he get. Even lil didn't push them. They got blown out a lot until trae kind of figured out january. You know but you know who else are. They gonna play. The point guard position not not quite sure but i just think if they wanted to chase as many wins. I think they could win more games in dallas. That's my view just because they have guys who have have one on that roster you dallas team and how many guys have been team. Did you ever boban beaumont. Let's but you don't see jay ironically. They traded jae crowder raison one point in time but you <music> but there's just i don't see those guys on dallas but for mavericks fans that's fine. I think this year winnings icing on the cake if you get it it's really about getting luca and kristaps kristaps committed to one another in integrated so that's that's the thing so <hes> but sounds like you're kind of a slight under on on that forty and a half yeah i think i i i would i would take under. I don't think it costs forty percent looted to it before their team. I'm watching take a move a big move at <hes> in the middle of the season and they think they're gonna one way or the other. This is getting traded <hes> their picnic season and because it's their last real bullet in the chamber for a long time because all the picture locked up because of kristaps and if they are able to get a needle mover with that that could push them up over five hundred for the year. I don't know if it puts them into the playoffs. If one of those teams fall apart they're able to get the seventh seventh-seeds something like that <hes> but i wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if they could do it. They have the contracts with powell and all these guys were having tim hardaway. We've brought him up to to put together a the outgoing money to bring in whatever the next version of russell westbrook. Is you know where it's a guy who's making a boatload of money and maybe more money than you want to pay but he's gonna make he's gonna push your team to the next level. Would that that be premature for dallas. I think so but at the same time i really think this pick the have won their last the last bullets in the chamber to say we need to find our third third guy next two kristaps. Look because you wanna be a contender. I i don't know i think you've got to get that team and all these deals. They signed this summer for multiple years. They you sound like you're gonna have a cap space a real meaningful opportunity to get a guy unless it comes to trade and to make a trade for a for a better guy than luca or kristaps or a third guy they're just going to need to. They're going to need to trade the pick or they're going to need to tread kristaps or luca and i don't think that's happening so <hes> they're like one of my maintains. I'm i'm looking to see if they make a a midseason deal. Maybe even like the jimmy butler trade last year where it's like early the somebody's descr something who knows what's it's going to happen like the n._b._a. Chaotic like that but if if someone falls through the cracks like bradley beal team. I don't know like that's a that's a big difference maker so that's the one everybody talking about deal. I was actually greg. I talked about it. We were preview the wizards of who has the the assets. Let's go get him in dallas looks like they're behind the number of teams <hes> it should all of them become acclimated but total don nelson junior they get creative and get it the threat the right thirteen involved. You never know you never know the you're right if they added like a bradley bill then there then there are nine playoff teams literally play for eighth watts lots because that's how good he would make them so we'll leave it there dane <hes> anything the plug or quick. Although it's like it's the time it is. It's the dead time i it was nice to get on here and talk some basketball. I haven't done i might my podcast is kind of on sabbatical here. 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