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Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"Patriots and of course I'm talking about Nikhil Harry and Harry getting traded to Chicago for a 2024 7th round pick. What a return for Nikhil Harry. Yes, you had the appropriate response to the return on that trade. I mean, look, our long regional nightmare is over, you know, Nikhil Harry has finally gone, of course everybody was like, oh, I wanted him gone around the draft. Yeah, that happens when you actually have a market when you have a marketable player who might be wanted by other people and obviously looking at the return. It doesn't get much worse than a 7th round pick two years out. I mean, that is literally use footballs in return. And for the Patriots to get that for a player, they drafted in the first round. Yes, it was the last pick in the first round. Is certainly disturbing and disappointing. I don't know how you feel about a Nick, but to me, this Nikhil Harry pick lack of development, all that stuff. It's even more disappointing when you put it into context that, you know, when he was drafted, they were really looking for targets for Tom Brady. And to really boost the offense a bit and also keep Tom Brady happy and it would have been great if Nikhil Harry was like Dion branch 20 years later or something like that. And obviously that didn't happen. And again, he's one of those draft picks that when you look at where the Patriots are personnel wise in the amount of money they've had to expend at the position. I mean, look at look at wide receiver. I mean, last year they had to sign Nelson Aguilar and Kendrick Bourne. This year they had to trade for devonta Parker. And that's what happens when you don't hit on top 40 top 60 draft picks like the Patriots went through for a while. And so, you know, disappointing in many respects, but the one benefit is they pick up a $1 million in cap space by trading him instead of releasing him.
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"That would look like a really good season for taekwondo. I would say too. So this says yards, you know, they're probably gonna hand him the ball too a little bit. And do some stuff like that. So, you know, if we're talking all purpose yards, I think that's very realistic. By the way, if you want to call 300 to 400 yards, the keel Harry two. Nikhil Harry had a hundred yards as a rookie. He has 600 for his career in three years. Nikhil Harry's never he doesn't even average 300 yards a season. So this season would be much better than anything to kill Harry's ever done. Yeah, okay. So we just talked about judean. He's our second most important patriot for both of us on our list for this season. This is an interesting question, kind of a question. So a lot of people, myself included, have theorized the Patriots might use the cap to the base salary to signing bonus conversion trick to free up some cap space using Matthew judon contract. Side effect of doing that is you increase future cap hits, right? You kick the can down the road and you increase his future hits with the player like Matthew judon who's already making $18 million a year. Increasing those future hits is going to make those tap hits pretty difficult for a release or a trade. Let's say if he drops off a cliff and they want to get out of that contract, this makes it harder. So do you think that that could potentially be their thinking if they don't go that route and they don't use judean contract is they don't necessarily want to marry Matthew judon, right? Because that's what you would be doing if you use this trick with the cap. Yeah, maybe I don't know. I don't talk about the cafe every time I do past cap else of me because I get it wrong. Why do you put it out for you? It's basically the question is, is do you think that he will be worth it to raise his tap hits and let's say two years, right? Well, he's still be a good man. I think it would because the caps just gonna shoot up with the new TV deal, right? But it's also like, I think there's moves you can make, even if you're heading to make this move, there's moves you can make before this to make more sense, extending Jake Bailey..
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"And I think the biggest thing that you had issues with and looking back on our evaluations of Nikhil Harry and learning from that draft pick and things of that nature, you saw so little true press man coverage. Let's get in somebody's face and let's see if he can win. And the little sample size that Nikhil Harry did have against press man coverage was very poor as it translated to the NFL with the same thing. So I think the biggest thing that I had against the PAC 12 was one, the style of defense that they played was basically let's play a country country spot drop zone. We're going to sit back and cover four shells. Keep the top on the defense and let everything go underneath. And it allowed guys like Michael harriot to catch screen passes and drag routes and then take those for big plays after the catch. And the other thing that I would say is the speed of the conference, especially out in the PAC 12. To me, really took a hit over the last three, four, 5 years, going back to the Nikhil pic. And in that respect, I think that that was something that I saw on tapes with Drake London, for instance, right? Who I wasn't as high on with other people as well is these big receivers, these 6 foot three, 6 foot four guys that are posterizing people in the PAC 12, but are there actually running away from anybody, right? What's their game speed? Are they actually pulling away from defenses? And when you're not pulling away from PAC 12 DBs, I just have concerns from an evaluation standpoint. If you can't run away from a guy in the pack 12, then I really don't feel good about you running away from an NFL defensive back. Whereas when you look at the SEC guys, okay, like I can see AJ Brown pulling away from this guy, that really translates, right? Or even a guy like treylon Burks, who we all kind of soured on because of the 40 time and everything. At least he was out there running away from people in the SEC. So I think that's a big part of it with the PAC 12. So I am interested to see from that respect going into the Big Ten Ohio State Michigan, you know, some of these really blue bud power programs. Let's see what some of these guys look like. Now, in terms of the translation and projecting to the NFL against some of these defenses that have a little bit more overall team speed than what they were going up against in the PAC 12. Well, I think I mean at all positions too, the thing is the PAC 12, like you said, it's a very wide open game. Big Ten is not wide open..
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Both guys run a four two something, right? So why is one guy a perennial Pro Bowl receiver and the other guy was a third receiver at best and didn't really pan out and didn't have the best career. It's the ability to not get run off the route down the field, right? Being able to hail kind of handle contact finish through contact and really be a physical player, even if you're not like physical in the sense of Devante Parker and Nikhil Harry. It's about being able to run through contact and then get up the field and allow your strides in your speed to take over because jams contact in the first 5 yards. That stuff doesn't slow you down. That doesn't anchor you from going up the field. That's the biggest difference between hill is a physical presence. Like he can get off the line. He can get into you. He can handle physicality down the field. He can fight off physicality down the field. And that allows him to run away from people. Guys like Philip d'Orsay or other players like that that have had great speed, but have struggled in the NFL. The main reason why they struggle is because of physicality. And I think what taekwon that's the concern is not necessarily about his long-term outlook in that respect, but as a rookie, keeping it there is, is he going to be able to run through people? Is he going to be able to finish through contact? Is he going to be able to use his speed to the best of his ability without being inhibited by the speed bumps in front of him? And I don't know if he's going to get there right away as a rookie. I think that that might be a developmental thing that we'll see in your two, three, four. Could he be a guy that stretches the field right away? Yeah, I think he can stretch the field right away, but I don't know if he's going to necessarily be somebody that's going to have a high volume of catches until he develops his frame a little bit more. Sure. Okay, the only reason I brought the Nikhil Harry numbers up is because they're going to get brought up. One way or the other. They're going to.
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"I think that's kind of a technicality. The way to do this, Breyer is going to be in Foxborough this season. He's going to be a patriot this season one way or another. So I don't necessarily think that that discussion is really to be had. The whole coaching thing though, I think that people don't realize, first of all, number one, how much of a pay cut that is to go from backup quarterback player to coach is definitely something that is a huge like tenfold. Yeah. It's also something that is a huge time commitment to go from a player to a coach. Coaches, I don't think people realize sometimes how much coaches work, especially assistant coaches that are grinding tape and padding and coming up with all these game plans and things like that and scouting opponents. They're there 24/7 around the clock, especially during the season. So that's quite the time commitment for somebody like Brian Hoyer too. So he's got, he's got the best of both worlds. He's got the paycheck and he's got the player schedule to throw that all away to be a coach. I think that they're literally going to have to tell him and I mean all 32 teams are literally going to have to tell Brian Hoyer. There is no place for you on an NFL roster anymore before we get to the point where he's thinking about coaching. And at the same time for the Patriots, there's then limitations on how much time Brian Hoyer can spend with Mac Jones working with him that don't exist when they're teammates. So outside of the roster, de Ross was spot is the only reason that the patriot that it would incentivize the Patriots to make Brian Hoyer a coach and there is no reason for Brian Hoyer to want to be a coach if the team will still have him as a player. There's none. So there's also, I mean, on top of everything you said, he might have already hit the top threshold. He might be another year or two in terms of pension, you know, years in the league tied into that. What do you get in terms of health insurance after he retires? He's not, he's not just going to be like, yeah, I'll be a coach that's fine. That's not how anything works. Yeah, absolutely. So Jared Stidham in a very similar position as Nikhil Harry honestly in terms of he's got no trade value. He's probably got very little value on the roster, but it wouldn't completely shock me if they carry all four guys. I think that they might see that with chocolate. Yeah. It's something to do with numbers why. So I hear you. But go ahead. At that point. Yeah. What's the benefit? What is instead of giving you this? I guess I go back to, I go back to the 2001 patriot quarterback room and obviously drew blood. So it was on that team and Brady. So 2002, you have, you know, they've had numbers back then. Back then, you were able to carry an extra quarterback that didn't count against your roster. Okay, that's a fair point. So if Jared didn't count him against the roster, I'm.
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Bet online where the game starts. Last thing here on the wide receivers, Nikhil Harry, let's just put this out there and be honest. If the Patriots had a trade partner for Nikhil Harry, he'd already be off the team, right? I mean, this is not a matter of the Patriots hanging on for hope that Nikhil Harry is going to prove out to be a good player or live up to that first round expectation. There is nobody that wants to give the Patriots anything for Nikhil Harry. So what do you think ultimately ends up happening with him? Do you think that they cut them? Do you think that they find a trade partner at the end of training camp or maybe they end up keeping them for one more year? He is under contract for one more season and then you can cut bait next off season. There's value in bringing him into camp. You can only increase his trade value. We talked about this on a previous show, right? Let him go out there, let him wash you on Williams a couple of times. Let him do it in a pre season game, get the hype but maybe you can movement a pick swap. They just have too many wide receivers. It's not worth the Ross or spot for them to keep them. And everybody's go, oh, play tight. He's not tight end. That would make it easy. If you use it tight end, that would make it easy. 'cause I'd rather have him probably than Asia or key. Right. But he's not that guy. So they might end up having a cut. There's some dead money, there's not a ton, but yeah, yeah, I can't see him on the team. Yeah. I mean, I think what you're hoping for is that maybe somebody gets hurt in another camp, obviously you're not hoping anybody gets hurt. But the idea is somebody gets hurt in other camp, a team has a few injuries at the wide receiver position. They absolutely just need a body there. Maybe Nikhil Harry becomes somebody that can fill in there, but at this point during the draft, they basically got no calls on him..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"Contracts, especially in their rooms. Like, you know, all right, so Nelson Aguilar gets a big contract. Who's going to complain on offense? Well, Damien Harris. What did you say? To feel Harry. Yeah, Nikhil, what's Nikhil Harry get a complaint? Oh, yeah, he had his trade request last year. Oh, okay. Sorry, Nikhil. Sorry we hurt your feelings. He wanted to get paid off of your 35 receptions or whatever. Like, you know, and that's sort of the point. I mean, the Patriots, I think Belichick was comfortable doing that last year because he realized, well, there's nobody really tick off in my locker room. It's not like I have like, well, except, you know, JC Jackson, but I think we kind of knew what was going to happen with JC Jackson for a while. The Patriots offer him a contract extension. I'm sure it was at least on par with what Nelson Aguilar got like $12 million a year, probably more, probably more in the $15 million range. So JC Jackson couldn't really complain. And you knew that he was basically getting to his final year betting on himself and said, I'm going to try to go get top of the market. And he got near top of the market. The soft season. So good for him. So the big thing is, is that, you know, it actually helped the Patriots, well, no, I don't want to say that because you want the good young players. And the reason that the Patriots are in this spot with their rosters because they didn't draft well for four years as Robert Kraft said. But the Patriots basically had to import talent to make up for those drafts. They did it. There's no one there to piss off, I'm trying to think if Damien Harris, Damien Harris could get mad if something happens now because he's in a contract here, but up until now, no chance for disharmony, but I do think if you're a guy like Jordan poyer and you look at what the bills are doing, be like, you just hand it von Miller all this money and he's never played here before and here I am..
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"I mean, those are the two options that you have. My guess is though, is that Bill Belichick probably thinks that wide receivers don't matter to a degree. And things that all of it's overrated. But I do think that in today's game you need to keep up a little bit. Sure. Yeah, and again, it's some of it's the way the board falls too, right? You know, just because you take a wide receiver in the first round, doesn't mean he's going to be that guy. Right. And I don't know what the momentum they built last year. I don't know that this team can afford another Nikhil Harry situation, where they can afford to miss. So let's say they like a lobby, they like Williams, those guys are gone. Should they force John Dodson if they don't believe in them? Just to get that guy. That's again, right? That's the benefit of the Devante Parker trade to me. Is that if you're not a 100% convinced that the guy that you have are thinking about taking is going to pan out for you and I know you're never a 100% convinced, but you know what I mean? If you're not really confident about it, now they don't have to reach on a wide receiver because they have enough NFL talent on the Ross or to not have to reach. But if Jameson Williams is there and Chris alava is there, if you get into the second round and you're on the clock at 54 and sky more is there or you feel great about John metchie and his health and his evaluation. Now you can find the right marriage between the board and what you're looking for and line those things up, but you got to take some stabs. You can't just sit back and not do not do it at all. It doesn't have to be in the first round, but you've got to start to take some bites at the apple here. So again, and I agree with you. But there's a fine line between that and it's just forced like picking players for the sake of picking them without going off the evaluation. That's why you get and I think day two early on day three is the spot to go. And for all of their issues with receivers, big picture, they've been okay with slot guys. Granted a lot of them were undrafted, but they Edelman's, I guess his own thing. If you want.
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Point? I mean, do you release them? Do you try to get what you can out of them in the trade? What do you think you could get out of him in a trade? And what's the point of having to kill Harry on the roster at this point? So I think you bring the keel to camp. You have him because remember last year at camp he was amazing. Do you remember that? We were all talking about the zit. You were all talking about, by the way, I never bought in on this. You were all talking about this is it. He's finally clicking. This is the year. They have their receiver. Do you remember that? So I was going to say, do you remember who he was going up against samosas? Yeah. That's what you do. You bring to keel and you want to camp. You haven't run a bunch of one on ones. I hope one of them dominates the other to the point where he creates enough buzz and you move them. Like, I'm serious. I know I sound like I'm okay. Had that opportunity. So if he makes that catch against the eagles, in the preseason game, and it doesn't get hurt. Remember he had in his hands. He gets hurt, hard to shoulder. If he makes that catch, I truly think that the Patriots might have gotten something for Nikhil Harry at the end of the summer. Exactly. And so I'm saying, do the same thing again, like, put him out there against the fourth string. Put him out there in camp in pre season games, put him out there against the worst of the worst. He's gifted enough that he's gonna shine. We saw it last year. Like if you put him out there against XFL USFL guys, he's gonna be the best player on the field. Right. Put him out there in those situations. Yeah. Wow, look at what did he kill Harry's doing there? I don't think.
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"The idea of because I've talked about this before like they would run matchy just vertically out of the slot at Alabama and Mac was great with that. Mac was great, 'cause it's covered differently. It's a little more maneuverable as a quarterback. Take Nelson Aguilar, put him in the slot inside devonta Parker, have Parker use his size to come over the mid like this is, you know, kind of a basic example, but Parker slants over the middle, that clears out you shoot Nelson agler up the scene like that, like that's the kind of stuff they're doing at Alabama, goes big receivers come over the middle and use their size and traffic, you take the quick receiver, you run them up the hashes where he's dealing with a slot corner of safety, not a boundary corner, like that's where max success at Alabama cut came from. It's where two are like, that's the Alabama offense. That's when they're at their best. That's what they're doing. They didn't really have that option in the slot. Myers a good slot receiver, but he doesn't have the speed. He doesn't have the speed to play that way. If Nelson Aguilar can start taking some snaps out of the spot out of the slot, that could be big. That could really change the way things move. Yeah, because I think a lot of us make sense. No, yeah, I think a lot of us have been this is where I was going with the next honestly. I wanted to talk about Nikhil Harry too, which we'll get here in a second, but this speed slot role that Nelson Aguilar could potentially play now that they have a true outside guy on the boundary and he doesn't have to do that. It's a big part of this trade in my mind as well because like you said, if you watch Alabama, whether it was waddle, a smithy, whoever it was, Matt Jones had to have had, I don't know the exact number. I mean, 50 plus completions off of over routes, right? Crossing routes going over the middle of the field. And like you said, it's a different route because what you're doing really is you're attacking the safety in the middle of the field. And you're trying to stretch. A lot of teams will play it single high, especially against teams that run the ball well, and you get that over route going against a single high safety, and you can run into a big pocket of space on the other side of the safety. And that's a big part of that offense. When you look at it and you say, okay, well, why does throw that ball well? That route, as much as it's not the timing Julian Edelman Wes Welker option route over the middle, you have to pace it out, right? Because the receiver is moving from left to right. And you have to be able to hit the spot with the ball. You have to be able to throw it to the landmark that coal receiver and quarterback are on. So that timing and accuracy is really important in order to make that route work..
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"The 5th round is the special team's grand for the Patriots. Maybe they take Annie Isabella and 5th round pick for Nikhil Harry. Maybe you even get something a little bit better than that. I don't think he will, but maybe you can get two day three picks or something like that for Nikhil. That's the way that I look at that trade. I think Nikhil Harry brand Isabella straight up the Patriots are giving up a little bit too much there. In my opinion. I'm with you, a 110%. When you watch the kill Harry's tape, another team is not gonna say, oh, snap, that's about a thousand yard receiver that we can get from the Patriots because they're not using them correctly. But they are looking at them and saying, he's a big body guy. He can block, we can use them in the red zone, maybe a little bit. I think that they have more tape to back it up, like you said. There is something a little bit more there for you to sink your teeth into. If the Patriots traded for Andy Isabella today, the only thing that I could pull up to be optimistic about bringing him in is his college tape. There is no tape for him against from Arizona. Maybe I could look in pre season. Maybe there's some pre season Arizona tape that you could pull up and he Isabella. So that would be an interesting move for the patrons, though. Isabella coming back to the New England area. Nikhil going back out to the Arizona state of Arizona. Both going back to their college programs. I know Nikhil Harry lives in Arizona for most of the off season. So I think he'd be pretty happy about going back out west. I think that would be something that he would welcome as well. So we'll see. I think that that's a possibility, but I wanted to get to that quickly. All right, let's go watch the drills. Go watch the combine. Alex and I will be back on tomorrow. We will recap what we see tonight out of the wide receivers will also talk about offensive line and running backs, apparently, too, where you're talking to me into the freaking come on. You know it's important. In minutes important. The third down back roll is important. That's all I'm looking for. But that's who's working out tomorrow. That's just working out tomorrow. That's all I'm saying. All right, so Alex and I will be back tomorrow. We'll keep it right here on patriots beat and on patriots press pass all weekend long during the combine. So stay right here with us and we'll carry you through all the way through until Sunday. But enjoy the combine tonight and Joyce Celtics grizzlies if you're gonna watch some basketball tonight as well and we will see you guys all tomorrow. Thanks so much for watching. Thanks for watching our content of the 6 time Super Bowl champion New England Patriots. Please subscribe to my podcast patriots be on our YouTube channel patriots press pass or wherever you get your podcasts for a lot more exclusive content right here on the CLS media network..
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"That doesn't have any elusiveness doesn't have any explosiveness. So he's a really interesting player, his vertical brakes are certainly better than his little jitterbug breaks. He's not a Julian Edelman, but he can break at the top of the route. I think he can create some separation down the field and he's certainly can create separation with his speed in an obviously with his size down the field to win on jump balls and things like that. But I was really, really impressed with how smooth and fluid of an athlete he is. He is not your typical Nikhil Harry 6 foot 5 big bodied receiver that's just gonna win by playing basketball out there, right? And playing contestant catches that sort of game. He can really run and he's a smooth guy. So he's gonna rise up boards. I think a lot of people slept on him, big senior bowl week. He's a top 100 pick for sure. He might even be higher. I think that he can choose 50 top 75 dial in all things are said and done. He's really raw. Technically, and that's, again, it goes back to what we talked about earlier, like, who's coaching him up? Who's working with them? What is the offensive support staff look like? I wouldn't hate it if they took him. I don't think he can be your only move. Like if they added him to, I mean, just the name that's on the top of the board. If they added him to like Chris Godwin, that's an amazing signing. 'cause there is a little bit of Godwin in his game. You know, correct me if I'm wrong on that, but I feel like there's a little bit of Godwin and what he does. So having him being able to work with somebody like Chris Godwin could be big. Did you watch the one that he gets a ton of comparisons? He was actually the other books receivers, Mike Evans, right? Is he that strong? I don't know if he's that strong. He is a little bit more, I guess, leaner than my very slender. Yeah. So I don't think that he's quite that strong. He's probably a little bit more fluid than Mike Evans is, but not as physically imposing as Mike Evans is, but I North Dakota state that was the moniker, right? He was the FCS Mike Evans, right? That's the sort of guy that he was for them. If you're going to chase that player, at least if they took a guy like Christian Watson on day two, I would say that that was learning from the Nikhil Harry mistake because Nikhil is stiff. He's robotic in his movements, right? He's rigid. He doesn't have loose hips. He doesn't have change of direction skill. Christian Watson's nothing like that. He's not as physically imposing. He's not as strong as Nikhil Harry is. But he's a lot looser and he's got that ability to get out of brakes, right? So I think that's a much better indication that they have moved on from the Chad Jackson's Nikhil Harry types of receivers and onto a little bit more explosiveness and fluidity. Have you watched doves or at all or no? Not as much as Watson. Some of these guys, you got to get the tape on them, you know? And that's why I haven't seen a ton. I kind of just going off the scattering reports. It sounds like he's a very similar player. He's a little more technically he's not quite as explosive, but he is a little more technically sound, so it's what you want. You know, because I wonder if they would lean, they're both about in the same spot on the board right now..
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"I think him being on the field makes a huge difference because part of the reason hunter Henry wasn't as involved last week is the bill's basically took the safety. They normally leave over the top. All of a sudden he kill Harry's out there at the ex? They're not worried about putting that safety over the top, right? Yeah. All of a sudden, that guy crashes down into the box and he's helping either just just take away the middle of the zone or he's helping with contra Henry and man. So and they did it on some other on some other receivers too. But I think having Nelson Aguilar out there does make things a lot easier for them beating coverages offensively. I'm not saying that they're fine that everything's okay when they have Nelson Aguilar out there, but it's better. Right, so that was my next one. Was factor fiction and we just found out about 20 minutes ago before we started hitting record here and started taping. That Nelson Aguilar is out again this week with that concussion. So it's going to be mikiel Harry at the ex again for the Patriots a second week in a row. Factor fiction, Nikhil Harry is a significant drop off from Nelson Aguilar because now I feel like we're getting into full on fact with that, right? Yeah. And he is a 110% a much better, more effective player than Nikhil Harry and you just see it like you were saying and I'm saying fact obviously to this, you were saying this spacing, right? The route spacing that you can see where they are threatening more grass. They're just threatening more of the field. When Nelson aguilera is out there versus Nikhil Harry and to your point, buffalo is fine with leaving Nikhil Harry one on one. They said, if Matt Jones is going to throw an armpit in 45 yards down the field and they're gonna beat us like Nikhil Harry did against Indianapolis where he goes above the rim and wins a contested catch down the field and they're gonna consistently do that time in and time out. So be it. So be it if that's how they're going to win, we're going to have those safeties crowd the middle of the field and make sure that those guys aren't the ones that beat us. So Nelson agaro takes that safety with him a little bit more consistently. And I think Nelson aguilera also, if you give him single coverage down the field, is going to create more separation that maybe that worries defensive coordinators a little bit more at those throws down the field become more consistent. By the way, Cincinnati is in the red zone, Alabama had to take a time out because their defensive backstop tackling. Oh, good job. Yeah. The fact that you're fixed and Alex, you sorry, I thought I explained it before. Yeah, no, it's a fact, because you lose that burn or ability the team's need. Corners can catch up to Nikhil Harry. They can't catch up to Nelson snuggler. That's the difference. I think teams are comfortable covering Nikhil Harry without safety.
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"You know, they'll get those cleaned up. I think this is, you know, this long weekend is a perfect time for that. The biweek coming up is a perfect time for them to sort of reset for some of these things. I thought the running backs were great, the offensive line was good. Receivers were solid, some mistakes here and there like Jacoby Myers coming out of his break on third down. I didn't think it was great. Hunter Henry was wrong on the end zone in completion where Mac shot it to the back flag, even though, I don't know if it would have been completed. I could Mac was right on film, in my opinion, Mac was right on that. So very minor stuff that they have to clean up. If they would have cut down the mistakes just a few, they'd probably score 40 in that game. So I'm not overly alarmed with the offense or the team at all. I do think there are some things that if I were playing the Patriots that I would try to do and we'll discuss that. But yeah, really, really good solid victory. Look at Thursday night. Yeah, 5 O on the road so far. And we know, you know, Belichick. And really every football coach takes pride in that. But you know how good of a football team you have or how much you can trust the team by what they do on the road. And they're 5 and O on the road, even against bad teams on the road. You have some funkiness. We saw that with the bills and Jacksonville a couple weeks ago, you know, you can slip up on the road. And of course, the Pats had the brutal first half against Houston. But all in all, 5 O on the road. I mean, that speaks volumes to how mentally tough this team is. I do believe. And you hit the nail on the head Greg. Look, Thursday night. And this is not an excuse. But for years now, Thursday night is funky, it's clunky. You don't really know what you're going to get. It's a short, quick, fast turnaround. And sometimes you just have to fight through and win a game. And I feel like that's what the Patriots did. They dominated this game. It was the mistakes. As you mentioned, it was the bad pick by Mac when he had Nikhil Harry wide open down the sideline he threw it into double coverage down the seam to John who that was a bad play, bad decision by Mac. But most of all you look at the flags, a couple of flags on the offense, a holding that got them. You also had a couple of sacks that just killed them in tough times, Jacoby Myers fell on one of his routes, that kind of stalled the drive. Kind of simple mistakes. And defensively,.
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Or reps, excuse me, I would say that early on, it looked like the starting defense was moving a little fast for him, but he seemed to settle in as they got into practice and there were a bunch of throws that I thought were really, really solid that we can get into. But the one thing that you definitely do see with Mac, even when he has a bad start like he did today or had some bad moments like he did today. The ball is never that up for grabs. There was a few instances like we can Philadelphia that I wrote about where I felt like he was pushing the ball down the field and being a little bit too aggressive. I would say, putting the ball in bad spots and up for grabs. Today, his misses were at least solid misses, right, where it wasn't like it was going to be intercepted by the other team. So I guess that's a positive you can take away from it. I thought he made a couple of really good throws towards the end of practice. You mentioned the one to born that it was draped all over JC Jackson was draped all over him. There was really only one spot that Mac Jones could throw that ball into for Kendrick born to have a chance at it and that's exactly where he threw it. He also threw a nice pass up the seams and Johnny Smith earlier in practice. So you still see the flashes. You still see the moments. There was a throw coming out of the backfield, JJ Taylor, the linebacker blitz, the other linebacker dropped off the edge, replacement pressure, right? Inside linebacker comes outside linebacker drops with the running back in coverage. Mac read the blitz through hot to JJ Taylor got the ball out of his hands really quickly and put it to JJ Taylor and stride on a swing in the flat. Those are the types of ways you look at and you say, okay, that's the computer and between the ears working for Mac Jones that we've heard about. That the year about from Alabama he comes up here and does the same thing. Those are the things that you like to see translate. The last one I would mention with Mac was actually a throwaway that bob Sochi pointed it out as well on Twitter where at the end of the half against Philadelphia, Mac, yes, he had the deep ball in Nikhil Harry that should have been caught in the whole sequence probably doesn't happen if that ball is caught. But he threw a ball complete the JJ Taylor inbounds on second down with no timeouts. And then they were forced to spike the ball on third down and then punt. And when that happened, it was a learning moment for Mac Jones. And Josh McDaniels mentioned yesterday that they hadn't really gone over that exact scenario and practiced before..
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"I'm not a doctor. I don't know. That certainly I don't think he got the wind knocked out of him right? And we saw him in the sling and you think about what was the Garoppolo injury from landing on his shoulders at the AC joint right he's joined. That's what I have heard. I don't have a confirmed but it looks like an AC joint type of injury. I mean the tape. If it's not AC joints a broken collarbone. Right. Right. And either way he's going to miss time. So now the Patriots have a tough decision to make because you can't there's guys where they're going to want to keep them initially to move them to IR. We've talked about them potentially if they need to do that with folk. Maybe doing that upfront defensively guys who are late coming off the UP chase. Winovich perhaps but you can you can only do that with so many players right? And okay so with Nikhil Harry he showed all his promise but it's you know it's one summer how much weight are you putting on that? Are you willing to sacrifice a 53 man roster spot to make sure you get him to eligible to return IR? Do they I arm right now? Do they outright arm right now? And just say you know what we'll revisit next year and some it depends what the injury is. If you can't play this year he can't play this year. The IRM right now. But you know do they just keep them on the team and hope he can be ready? And I you know this is wildly throwing crap against the wall. I don't know because we don't know what the injury is so it's impossible to say. But right. Whatever the decision unless the doctor say yeah he's done for a year and you eye arm right now anything outside of that and that's not what you want. Obviously you don't want him to be out for the year. But you know whatever they do it's gonna be a tough decision. It's gonna be a hard decision. And you feel for the guy because you know everybody I know I didn't sound like I wanted him to succeed at times. I know people thought I hate him everybody wants him to succeed. He would have been great story. It would have been great and you know he's not an a hole. He's an easy enough guy to root for. And it just he was right there on the verge. He was right there on the verge..
Patriots Beat
"nikhil harry" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"So he has two chances left to do it. We don't know what that third preseason game is going to look like. So here we go. Here's the chance for again training camp bingo. Regardless of whether they trade to kill Harry or keep Nikhil Harry if he plays well in a preseason game it's good either way right? Because he's either gonna it's either gonna increase his trade value or it's gonna solidify the fact that maybe the light has come on for Nikhil Harry and they're actually gonna have a weapon out of this player. Because most of the time and not all the time. And there are certainly instances where guys get it in year three year four year 5 later on in their careers. But from an eye test perspective it does feel like for the most part you kind of know almost right away if a guy's going to be really really good or not and the NFL there's very few first round picks. Let's call it. Maybe some of those a guy like Julian Edelman right who's a 7th round pick and it takes some three or four years to break out as a receiver. But guys that are first round picks like Nikhil Harry you are either really really good right away or it's clear that you were overdrafted. There's not all there's usually not an in between. Some of those guys for instance Cordero Patterson. They can find a role for themselves in the NFL even though they don't pan out as a receiver. But you're either Justin Jefferson or you're Nikhil Harry if you're a first round pick. You're either a stud right away or you're not..