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Eps. 190: Medicine Man & Catechist, Nicholas Black Elk [Guest, Jon M Sweeney]
"This is lisa delay. And you're listening to the spark my muse. Podcast turn welcome to spark my muse. Everybody today my guest is prolific author and editor at parakeet press. John sweeney and we will be discussing his biographical book nicholas black elk medicine man catechist and saint thank you so much john for being my guest today going to luther. It's great to be with you. I've really deeply enjoyed this biography about a two little known. Men from the lakota sioux oglala. He was also second cousins with crazy horse and sitting bull and some of these people from our past are not as well known to maybe new generations of people but his story is a very interesting one and now he has been by. Some of his relatives has been presented for a case for canonization. And i think that maybe it will hopefully get into what that even means. Because i don't know that every one of my listeners understands the process of that or what that entails or what sainthood is in any of that. So i'm excited to dig in here but as you approach the story with black elk born in eighteen sixty six is kind of the time period. We're talking about and maybe you can set the stage. A little bit of what was happening in american history at the time and his life span but that span was yes. I i love to. I mean it's the setting of his life and the span of his life as you say that is part of what makes him such a Interesting figure because as your listeners probably can appreciate in probably already understand there was a you know european invasion of the north american continent. That was that's been had a four hundred year history and It came to a real climax during blackhawks lifetime through certain events that we learn about hopefully in elementary school Maybe we don't learn them correctly but you know we learn about The slaughter at wounded knee and we learn about the battle of the little bighorn. Sometimes we end up calling at custer's last stand but these are part of our cultural understanding and education Block outlived through those very events and they were fundamental and foundational to his to his life. So as you suggested as you said he was born in eighteen sixty six in what is now the state of wyoming which was then simply lakota territory. And part of what i tried to do in my biography of him is to tell the story of his people and their gradual loss of land property and culture and how some of this was deliberate at the hands of these white european invaders. So i mean that's kind of a very broad answer to your question but maybe that is the sort of bigger setting that you were that you were thinking about. Yeah that's a great starting point and he very young. He has a mystical experience in a great vision even before he's anywhere near adulthood. But i wanted to also set the stage for His role as medicine men which is passed down to him and he's from a line of medicine men and maybe you can speak about. What does it. What are we speaking about when we say medicine man and what does it mean that this was kind of part of his heritage and he's the sixth grandfather and and maybe you can lay out setting for that too. Sure your the medicine man or holy man In lakota is Wichita show walk on which means holy man also means medicine man There's also a Would casa walk in who is a holy man or a priest. So there's ways in which the terms are interchangeable for your listeners. Who are christian Wanna yon walk-on is holy spirit and you kinda here the similarity of the language. Which i'm i'm getting ahead. Perhaps but that's part of. What is the interesting story of black elk the way in which his life combined his oglala sioux local native spiritual tradition later in life midlife and then later in life with the catholocism to which he he converted and and added to his to his religious experience but where he came from before that happened. from birth was that he was born into a a lineage of medicine. Man policeman like a priest and part of beans. Such a person was to receive visions. Visions were taken seriously visions and dreams were taken very seriously by all of the lakota people and they were not the exclusive privilege only medicine men but they were expected of medicine and they were deeply foundational in their life when he was nine he had his first to such a pivotal experience which some late twentieth century twenty-first-century first century experts have looked at his experience in the accounts of it and have concluded. Perhaps it was a near death experience because it does seem to have taken place at a time of unconsciousness but it was greatly detailed and is detailed for anyone who perhaps in college read the book. Black elk speaks which is the bestselling book in history on a native american and his his experience. And in this vision. We have the whole sort of mythology of the grandfather's That was foundational to two blackhawks understanding and of lakota religion. Generally and black elk received at the age of nine to make a long story short received the message that he was supposed to play a pivotal role in his people which essentially meant from this white european invasion. And you mentioned that the role of the vision also meant that he would be schooled in counseling listening healing and interpreting as part of his. You could say priestly role in the community and heat. This role plays out in his role as a teacher. Catechist later on onto as he continues to speak lakota and reach his people through catholicism as well as maintain his indigenous spirituality and the ceremonies and rituals from which he came from his well right yes and he bridges the two communities in that way so He certainly was not. It'd be a mistake for anyone to get the impression that he was. One of the first Oglala lakota to become a catholic in fact he had been he was married to a woman who died in middle age and blackout ended up remarrying several years later but the woman to whom he was married who died was catholic Before he was so. I mean that's just an example of how it was actually becoming rather common on the reservation because there were there. Were both catholic jesuit priests who were working on the reservation where black elk was located. Which is the pine ridge reservation in. What is now a south dakota but there also were piscopo aliens and others so i mean there was a lot of Of active christian missionary work that had gone on for decades and in fact even these which is also part of the story that that is essential to understand black elk which is the colonialism european invasion that. I've mentioned a few times but that also had a missionary arm to it so that's part of the complication of of the story is that there's a divided feelings emotions and opinions about what a native person What his or her conversion to christianity might mean is it a renunciation of that which they're converting from and to and so there's there's a lot of. There's a lot of debate among native writers about what it means the life of black elk. That brings me to a really interesting point. That i i never knew myself until i started looking at looking at this more recently. But when we're speaking about native. Americans lakota sioux specifically. Were really talking about monotheist. Were speaking on twenty six. You mentioned they would have thought of jesus as a medicine man and the great spirit. Or what con- tonka as the great grandfather of all most powerful other. God really is not antithetical. To christian theology and i think would have been received without force conversion or genocide or maybe The europeans were spooked by their. I guess their attuning. Their oneness with nature are their their reverence for nature. I i should say That they weren't doing and split off but it doesn't seem like there's this giant at least in to other cultures it doesn't seem so far removed from maybe. I'm seeing it wrong. Could you explain it a little play. What you just explained is how i would explain the jesuit success for lack of word speaking from the perspective of trying to achieve missionary goals. One of the reasons why the jesuits were quite successful. At in the reservations system in the late nineteenth century early twentieth century was precisely because of that because they saw what was lakota religion mythology believe even language and attitudes and emotion toward the divine as not antithetical to christianity but complementary to christianity so they they used that language they adopted a lot of that language you know they started talking about god as walking tonka which is great. Spirit in lakota. But it's also. I mean there's no reason why that great spirit is not the same thing as what christians would call holy god Or perhaps god the father and Wanna kia jesus which has has has sort of grown to mean and lakota. He who makes live which is really a beautiful phrase a beautiful understanding and one that blackout. When he was later a catechist and very active catechist used that phrase in that understanding of jesus actively it comes of course straight from some of the stories of the gospels. He who makes live so This is in the the reason why this is sort of brilliant approach of the jesuits has because of course. This is not the way that christians of all backgrounds treated native american people certainly not the attitude that christopher columbus had When he left in fourteen ninety two and was trying to find a passage to india and ended up somewhere near the north. American continent then gave us the name. Indians you know and He was looking to enslave and conqueror in muslims and and had a whole different agenda than what i was describing about. Jesuit approach a missionary approach. So yes i think there are remarkable. Similarities i think there are mystics. Who might suggest that those similarities are because when you pair everything else away. The essence of religion is this sort of mystical oneness. I don't think i would necessarily adopt that view. But there's all different ways to approach this and and but but that is also part of the story of blackout is how these traditions came together. You mentioned something about agenda which brings me to Go back a little bit to what you say is the most popular most sold book about a native american. Which is the book by john. Gene iheart black elk speaks which didn't sell very well at first. But then was this huge sensation in the nineteen sixties but it was particular reason it had a particular agenda. And we know the most about black block elkins some of these these ideas about him which she had to go back and refute with his own words and i would like if you could explain some of what was going on there and then what he had to kind of clarify later because i think people might have the wrong impression about black elk and that's part of what your book goes on to correct. Yeah this is something. I i address right. At the beginning in the introduction there is a there are a few things that i try to address sort of quickly and succinctly but it also takes a few pages because blackout speaks. Yes as i said Is the best selling book in the world. And when i say in the world. I'm saying that intentionally There's there's probably even more interest in native american tradition and history in europe than there is in the united states or in canada I'm not gonna get into necessarily why that is but it is still true today. For instance a book on black elk. the publishes in france or germany will probably sell more copies than that book would sell in the united states. So there there's a lot of interest in this end to all over the world in languages all over the world. black elk speaks By john g ni- heart Has sold millions of copies. It was first published in nineteen thirty two So thank the great depression. Nineteen thirty one when the the summer of nineteen thirty one when the interviews that nihar had with blackout took place and In terms of the krahn chronology of blackout he was just In in rather old age at that point He would live another nineteen years so he wasn't at the very end of his life. Which is an impression that you get from nine heart. Because nihar was of that school that i mentioned a minute ago. Nihar used to say the essence of religion is mystical experience. So actually when i was referring to that view a few minutes ago in answering another question i was kind of quoting john. Nihar and John hart went to pine ridge reservation Because he wanted to find someone who would talk to him about native american spiritual practices and traditions. He he had this idea of the lost indian Sort of looking out into the distance That he wanted to find and so he went looking for something specifically. He didn't know who he was looking for. He knew a character or a type that he was looking for He was nebraska's poet laureate so he and he was An amateur antropologist And he was pointed to blackout. Now what's interesting is that my heart himself was a mystic and was a charismatic character You can go on youtube. i think. Still and look at interviews that he gave on the dick cavite show in the sixties before he died. Or maybe it was the early seventies early seventies before he died And he's a he's a little he's a little man with his big head of white hairy. Almost looks like carl jung or something. And i think he actually for the ideas of karl young but he said things in interviews for decades after the book came out. And this is when it became a bestseller in the sixties and seventies as you were saying when it first came out you know it didn't make much of a mark but then in the sixties and seventies when we're in the midst of the vietnam war and all sorts of other turmoil. There was this nostalgic looking back to the native american. I think that was going on. And you had john nihar on the dick cavite show saint things like he made me his spiritual son speaking of black elk and and he used a also like to say that when i found him in that summer of nineteen thirty one he had been waiting for me to come and he was a captivating guy so The these things had real effect and this is part of why. The book became so popular but the con- australian say this very quickly. The controversy about the book is that you have to take john nye hearts word for it that this is what blackout said. There were other interviews to come after blackout speaks was published in nineteen thirty two And they told more of the story of black elk and sometimes a little bit of a different story and most of all nihar really doesn't even mention the fact that by the time he meant met black elk in nineteen thirty-one that blackout had spent a quarter of a century as a catholic catechist and madman missionary. And i don't just suggest. I say in my book. And it's and it's not an original idea for me but i say that This is because that's the person that blackout wanted to meet. He wanted to meet the native american who had lost his culture and lost his religion in lost. His is his way of life at the hands of the white invader and he didn't want to tell a story of how all of that was true. But also the person who was being interviewed and with whom he was speaking with Was a convert to catholicism an active catechist who had been responsible for baptizing hundreds of people that would have messed up the story a little bit. So yeah so. That's why there's like a big grain of salt too with a black elk speaks and address that at the beginning of of my book to go along with the idea about what people expect from native americans. There's we still have a lot of that playing into white sensibilities now and what we expect or what we think we're talking about or thinking about when we imagine what native american people are like and this was an interesting part of black elk's early adulthood when he was actually traveling with the buffalo. Bill cody wild west show and he actually got out of his area even traveled overseas. I it seems like from what you say in the book that this had an enormous impact on him because he got to see other places in the world and maybe opened his eyes. I don't know if that had an impact on him spiritually religiously but do you mind talking about That influence on him. Yeah it's it's i keep saying. I think i'm repeating myself that it's it's another fascinating episode in his life but he had a lot of fascinating episodes in his life. I've written this is my third biography. My first two biographies were of writers and writers don't tend to have fascinating episodes in their lives. You know sometimes. A biography of a writer tends to be You know and then she and then she wrote this book and then she wrote the next book blackout Lived a life man. He really lived a fascinating life during a fascinating period of time and and another way in which he baffled people was that he joined the wild west show. While bill cody's wild west show And people can look that up if they don't remember what that is This is sort of in the you know in the era of p.t. Barnum and the big show and it was an exploitation. Really i mean the reason why people were baffled as to why Why a native american holy man with flex kind of heart and passion Would join the wild west show and travel around portraying in indian For crowds of white people is because he was. He was playing a part in the exploitation of his people And i can't imagine that that wasn't understood even by him at that time. So that's And i try not to sugarcoat that in the book but it is true So this was right. After a custard died at the battle of little big horn was when bill cody who created this show. became famous He became famous because he started to create alternative versions of what happened that day. When custer died he he actually had a part of the show of that often included custer living that day and conquering The native americans rather than dine. He created the the wild wild west show Black elk was not the first certainly not the only lakota to join it but yes. He then traveled all over the country and then to england and france as part of the show He played he played at madison square garden For many weeks They travelled by boat Across the atlantic to england while they were in england they performed for queen. Victoria whom black elk refers to as grandmother england. They actually performed for her. Not once but twice the second. One was a command performance at windsor castle that she asked for. And we know that at that performance that black elk danced specifically for the queen and that they had some conversation so but it. I mean the show ran in london for six months. Average attendance was thirty thousand. People i mean this was huge. The daily newspapers in london would tell stories about seen Indians around town and you know. Where did they eat. And what were they doing things like that so blackout wasn't known by name but he was certainly a famous at that time And then there's kind of there's various back stories about what he did. When he was in england and there was a fire in one of the hotels where they stayed and then he went to paris and he seems to have had a girlfriend. And i mean there's all kinds of interesting things but to kind of get around to what you had asked originally. I think it you end up asking yourself. Why did he do it. And what did he learn And i think that ultimately it was to his desire to fulfil what The grandfathers had seen for his future in that vision that he had back when he was a boy to bring healing and wholeness to his people. Blackhawks seems to believe that joining the big show and leaving home. You know for for these foreign lands and stuff was a good idea because he might learn something about the white person because the white person was was a threat was a Existential threat to his his people. Their future ways of life So he wanted to see them. Close up people of white and european descent and one thing. I say sort of the end of that chapter where i talk about. That is that in lakota The word for white which is why she chew literally means greedy person who takes the fat. There's no he's they've got a point not wrong. Yeah exactly well. I'll leave The the juicy tidbits of what happens in europe to The reader but there's some really interesting stuff that happens over there and how he actually gets back. There's some things that i won't reveal you some some fun stuff. Great stories that you include That were were really fascinating is definitely a larger than life kind of character in some ways. And maybe we could move to his later life now. He takes up the name nicholas because he is baptized on saint nicholas feast day in his later life as he converts to catholicism and he has this fascinating he calls it the good red road. Of jesus i thought that was really interesting. And maybe you could explain the supervised ministry that he has supervised by the jesuits and and he doesn't abandon the ways and the spirituality of lakota life but he is thoroughly catholic as well does a lot for Does a lot as a catechist and is really a fascinating piece. That i think that that's really the new piece that people might not know. Yes a lot of preaching lot of teaching a lot of traveling Itinerant missionary work Very much modeled. After the book of acts in the new testament deliberately He was tutored and taught disciple by jesuit priests. Who were his friends I also tell some stories in the book about How they were his friends but they are there. Also were some instances where they questioned him in a way that they did not question other white missionaries or catechists. Just to show that you know prejudices diehard but he was You know we. He'd gone from being. You know born into the oglala lakota people and hunting buffalo on the northern plains and fighting at little bighorn wounded knee to Carrying a bible in a hymn book and traveling From church to church and attending catholic conferences with lots of other people doing the same kind of work and writing articles occasionally And letters again like the book of acts or like the new testament and the epistles of of saint paul writing letters to churches that were published in newspapers and in church bulletins and things he He entered the when he entered the church. It's like he embraced a different way of healing He had been a holy man. You know a healer. But then he embraced christianity and the life of the sacraments and the holy spirit specifically in the trinity's specifically and the ways of healing that he learned as a christian as a catholic interestingly i think he became a great catechist and was quite successful in part because he was able to memorize Rupture in a way that whites probably had learnt. I mean it used to be. I think in the middle ages Through the era of the renaissance probably Memorization was essential to education. But no longer Was it by the early twentieth century. Certainly and certainly today it's not am At all something that. We emphasize education but In lakota education it was. It was all about memorization So he was able to memorize vast portions of scripture and he also was able to speak with great conviction and persuasively so he was a he was a good missionary. A good catechist. He was known by other catholic groups. We know you know throughout the united states at that time the fledgling still united states in the middle of the country there And he was credited with bringing more than four hundred people into the church and there were more than one hundred that referred to him as godfather. Yeah he had a powerful christian witness and a powerful work as a catholic catechist and missionary. It was not just sort of a side note to his life. This occupied decades. And can you explain what the good red road of jesus is. The the good red road is the red road is a is a phrase of native american spiritual teachings and it's used to the you know the readiness is meant to communicate. Native american identity in black elk speaks John neidhart had explored a spiritual beliefs told to him by by black elk and had used the phrase there Great spirit my grandfather. All over the earth. The faces of living things are all alike. This was some of the language that That black elk us there. And look you. You'd say things like look upon the face. The faces of children As they face the wind and walk the good road the good red road to the day of quiet So this was part of native american teaching and then it was Kind of like. I said that you know when he joined the church when he deliberately became a catholic embraced a new kind of healing. He embraced a you know. A broader understanding of what the red road was in his spiritual vision. It was a red road of jesus. And i had to pause there. Two of these are hard words than i am not the speaker but one kia that i mentioned before for jesus he who makes live you know Jesus became an essential part of his teaching After his conversion and became an essential piece of following that good red road. And maybe you can explain for people who are not familiar with the process of canonization or the Opening of a case for that his progeny presented in two thousand sixteen a petition in rapid city. South dakota Open a case for canonization. Why would people do that. What is the process. I've long been interested. In fact before. I became a catholic protestant writing a book about reading books about saints and canonization of things because found it so so fascinating sort of this aspect of the catholic imagination was very different from what i had grown up with in my evangelical protestant background. Which is what. I was raised in so anyway that i think the best way to approach canonization is the way that it was a done in the middle ages earlier than the time of saint francis which was Canonization meant that. It was so certain an obvious that a person had lived The kind of a life that was exemplary that Once they were gone They would be in heaven and if they were in heaven they were part of the cloud of witnesses that the book of hebrews makes reference to cheering us on. And there's no reason why we couldn't ask them deliberately to help keep cheering us on So i mean canonization in that sense was quite different than what it is right now in the catholic church. And i'm not criticizing. It is the catholic church at all is just things get formalized in rules are created and We have to standardize how we handle things. In fact we could standardize it even further in the catholic church. Because we've probably canonize some people that we shouldn't have certainly shouldn't have done it so quickly but it basically means that That the faithful are turning our present tense turning to nicholas black elk to ask him for For a bit of guidance to ask him to cheer them on to ask him to intercede on their behalf. Just like i might ask you to intercede on magnify behalf in prayer so People are doing that Ever since his death people have been doing that at the pine ridge reservation and in native native american communities throughout the country in the world and beyond that those who have been impacted by the life of nicholas black elk. And so for that reason. It's almost like finally. In march of twenty six. The grandchildren of nicholas blackout formally presented a petition to the gross. Who was then. The bishop of the diocese of rapid city south dakota. That's how it's done formerly as that. It's a home. Grown thing for the reasons i was describing and it comes from where the person lived and usually where he or she is buried and so that's how it began and then in two thousand seventeen. It was in the fall of twenty seventeen that the bishop then consulted because this is the process consulted and with the united states conference of catholic bishops at their at their big meeting and the and they agreed and then officially the cause for canonization was Created an opened and black elk nicholas black elk was then from then forward referred to now as servant of god nicholas black elk Next he would be beatified and then after that he would be canonized and there are rules for those things in terms of miracles that are attributed to his intercession Part of the process to is that there were vice postulates of the cause of canonization meaning a few people who are assigned to research the life of the figure and the writings of the person and If if relevant interview people who could have known him or could have known people who knew him and that whole process went on for the last few years at that process act and a friend of mine was one of those vice postulates and another one of them was was Archivist here in milwaukee. Where i live. Who works at the marquette university which is one of the holdings of the papers of nicholas black elk But anyway that process is now completed in the cause is now entirely in rome so it could it could sit there forever and go nowhere. It could sit there for five years ten years two generations. i mean sometimes The these are these these go in lots of different directions. But he is servant of god nicholas black elk and those of us who Have him cheering us. On as i say are are hoping And looking to the day when it moves further down the process and is one day named a saint. Thank you for explaining that. I think it is confusing to some people. What's going on there. But it is really an honoring of his life and work and his his continual work because there is no death there is no actual death going on. We still serve god after this point i think too. You mentioned that there was another saint of native american heritage. If he was made a saint would he be the only the second one or there were saint qatari. The cock with Who was in. Twenty twelve made the first native american to be clear saint by the church. Yeah it was quite recent and in fact. There's a connection with black elk and her is that hurricanes is illustrates. What i was saying before. Is that her cause for canonization was active in the late. Nineteenth century and black elk was someone who actually signed a petition as part of her cause for canonization as she also lived on a jesuit mission but she she was in The part part of canada which is south of montreal which used to be called new france one of the mistaken impressions. You get from john. Nine hearts nineteen thirty. Two bestseller was that he was illiterate. He was not at all illiterate. Either in lakota or in english but but they weren't writings of of a of a theological sort of character and then it just takes a while for the for the stories to the stories of someone's life To research them and to verify them and you know the causes for canonization. Take these things really seriously. That said i'm sure that the church has been too slow to recognize indigenous peoples everywhere. So i think we could easily conclude that that's true But i think maybe we're getting a little bit better at it. Over the really documented paddock called no strata and no strategic is simply latin for in our time and the bishops called it a decade like the subtitle was declaration on the relation of the church to non-christian religions. It was a it was a foundational change in the way that the church the catholic church specifically relates related to and relates today to Anyone outside of the catholic church in christianity but also those who are of non christian religions paragraph two has a has a simple sentence that says the catholic church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions which is amazing When that's huge right. Yeah it's transforming and and frankly you know part of the the sort of Split that's all aspects of american life. Today is also very real and the catholic church. And i when when when i say that sentenced to A lot of conservative catholics. Today they they either can't believe that it's in an official church doctrine a document which is supposed to relate to catholic belief Among the faithful or they reject Vatican two and this document is sort of out of hand and they seem to think that When when this you know Part of the church took root. Then the faith was lost This is part of the crazy split. That's going on all that life now. I know we choose the facts that we want them. Not not just what we wanna believe but we choose the facts so but it was called. No stra totta and yes. That was the turning point. And the time frame that we're talking about is Nineteen sixty three four five. It was is because of vatican two. I think that we have been able to see what i think. The jesuits were already doing so well. In the early twentieth century in the way that they were teaching the faith at pine ridge reservation and among the catholic catechism work that nicholas blackout was a part of the they will already doing it really well ahead of their time because it was ahead of the nineteen sixties when back in two zero strategic day sort of formalized the idea that there is value in non christian religions that there is truth to be found everywhere that the holy spirit works everywhere is not exclusive to christianity since nineteen sixty five with nostra taty. We are even better place to be able to see how the great spirit What one can talk in lakota The same object of devotion as one can taka god the father and how these are not just complementary but they're probably the same thing we don't have to use the sort of the teaching of self contempt which missionaries for centuries used You know like you have to get you have to get native people to have contempt for who they are and what they've learned in the past as as something that needs to be completely shooed from life before then you can replace it with christianity that will not take place in blackhawks life and i think it was a way in which they were ahead of their time and now since that it can to. We can easily do that because we see that that is true. That is the way. Yeah that's wonderful point. I think because often what happens and in my personal what happens is the self contempt and the coercion. That happens is really a coercion. To sometimes a form of claims of white supremacy it. Some kind of european or euro centric ways of worshiping god instead of appreciating. What's already there in the culture. Yes that is a an insight into the work of god that i appreciate. It's finally realizing maybe got not a christian right sifi surprise. What else would you like to speak about regarding the book that maybe i haven't touched on that you would like to bring to the surface. While i think the only thing i would say Maybe two things. I would say that we haven't talked about one is that I think i think we need to be careful. We meaning Anyone who's christian or comes to this conversation from christian background. I think we need to be careful about how we use. Or we potentially use native american spirituality and adopt pieces of it for our own ends and needs taking it out of its context. And one of the things i try to say. Read the top of Nicholas blackout is that. My book doesn't do that that. If you're looking for pieces of native american spirituality that you can perhaps incorporate into your into your christian life. Because i'm a. I'm assuming that most of the readers of this book will be from a christian perspective than you should go elsewhere because There's kind of a while factor that comes when we discover indigenous folk tales and theological ideas and ceremonies and things the idea of sort of Taking one here and there and Adopting a little bit is just one more piece of colonizing that is part of blackhawk story. That's one thing. I guess i would say. The other thing is sort of at the end of the story of blackout. And one of the reasons why i wanted to write. The book is something that we haven't yet talked about which is just simply the way in which he baffled and continues to baffle to different communities the communities speaking his fellow indigenous native american folks and the other community being christians or catholics more specifically because he was able to be both fully. And there's this sense Among catholics that if he some celtics that if he were to be genuine insincere as a as a missionary as convert as a catechist. Then he would like i was saying before issue what had come before he would deny what had come before but he didn't. He learned new ways of healing. He learned about jesus he learned learned about god in a way that expanded Who he was but it doesn't mean that he no longer was who he was. I mean we. We were taught to assume that euro american civilization you know eclipsing native cultures and with it that christianity eclipse native religion. But the didn't need to be that way doesn't need to be that way. And it wasn't that way and black elk. And so he baffles. People baffles a lot of maeve american folks including some members of his own family who kind of went on record to talk about how. They don't believe he really could have been a sincere convert to catholicism because he was so devout devoted to a native ritual into his work as a medicine man so it's one of the interesting tensions of his life and there's probably an ten pages towards the end of my book. Ride discuss all that. And and how How he will continue to frustrate some. But i think there's a way to to see it as a beautiful integration of a whole and that sounds like a real person actually yes and he personally actually know is a bit baffling doesn't just fit neatly into one spot or another absolutely i i i mean i mentioned before that. I'm a convert to catholicism. I am not one of those converts who you know trumpets and says you know i came to the one true faith and i found the only place that was you know safe and true to be. I don't feel that way at all. There's lots of complicated reasons why i became a catholic which i'll be happy to share with anyone over a cup of coffee someday if they want but I often will give a talk to a parish group. Or you know when i do a bookstore event or something and i will sometimes have a little moment where i talk about how spiritual paths and journeys are really complicated. And i'll just say a couple things about my own journey. And i always do that because people come up to me afterwards and they say i'm so glad you said that thing about how spiritual journeys are really complicated because mine is so complicated and let me tell you about it and i mean sometimes you know we. We only hear from people who seem to be just so sure and certain and clear and It's not always so sure in certain. And sometimes it's kind of convoluted but it's still and be a whole that makes really good sense and has beauty. Well said thank you so much don. I really appreciate the time you've shared with me about the book. And where can people find more about you. Find the book. where should they go. I you know t to answer that question. I always just say wherever books are sold. Right isn't that isn't that what we're supposed to say. I mean you don't have only one or two places. Wherever you buy your books. I think you can find this one and it is available. I don't. I don't know when you will be going live With this podcast. It'll be december fifteenth when the book is published. Sounds good. it's with the press. Yeah get the book. I think makes for very interesting reading enlightening reading when it comes to the native american people that we need to do due diligence and really understand who were talking about and then also rally behind them to make sure that their voices are heard in their own voices not a speaking for them and so when you present his life as more complicated than it's been presented that goes a long way to help people hopefully get more interested in learning the truth about him but also other native americans. We might not be so familiar with. Yes yes i agree.
"Do you think people can tell where. Like fishing teaser quotes. I think they'll be able to tell them. This one who got true. Who got the was hugh say straight. Welcome to season nine episode three acquired the podcast about great technology companies and the stories and play books behind them. I am ben. Gilbert and i'm the co founder and managing director of seattle-based pioneer square labs in our venture fund ps l. ventures. And um david rosenthal. And i am an angel investor based in san francisco and we are your hosts. Well listener as david nihar coming at. You live well sort of live together from seattle in person. First time sarah theory episode david. Let's right which was not that line ago. Love that we're back in. The swing of things. I know feels listeners. You probably notice a difference but it feels totally different to be doing this with you in person david in full three d electric well. Today's episode is on. Tsmc or the taiwan semiconductor company is your classic. Most people have never heard of it. But it's nine florist company in the world. Episode is wild morris. Chang founded tsmc at age. Fifty six retired at seventy four then came back seventy eight into the deal to make all of apple's chips and yeah we're going to tell the whole story here. It's while it's nuts. They make literally every chip in every iphone. Sold today and soon to be in. Every mac sold if you're excited at all about nvidia. Amd qualcomm or even either chips. That amazon microsoft. Facebook apple are making all of those chips or nearly all of them are actually made by. Tsmc along with all the chips in your cars and your smart devices and fighter jets and everything unbelievably this company that the entire world relies on is on an island that some countries feel is a sovereign nation and the people's republic of china feels is. Actually there's so. Today's episode has it all sending from startup to tech superpower an underdog founder. 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One fifties because of this so it is like a massive impact on the world. I think we've had tsmc on the agenda to do for like two and a half years. Now in our little. Google doc totally. I feel like we haven't called it. A miniseries bullets call mini series on semiconductors like silicon arm episode. Arm episode the sequoia part one. That's right we done a ton of semi. Yep okay listeners. And it's time to jump into the history and facts and david is gonna lead us in that but as usual even though we're going to be very excited about some companies less excited about other companies. The show is not investment advice. We may have investments in the companies. We discuss it's for entertainment and informational purposes. Only and you should do all of your own research even if you listen to the show for research purposes gonna do other research. Well do you hold tsmc. I don't i wish i did. I do not. I really wish. I did. Starting pre pandemic. I'll have to think about it as we go through this episode. Okay speaking of we start in ningbo china in july nineteen thirty one just about one year after warren edward. Buffet was born in omaha nebraska. And they're gonna be quite a few parallels ears. We go through this episode. But until nineteen thirty. One in ningbo china. Our protagonist dr morris chang order of the propitious clouds with special grand corden. Which is the highest civilian. Honor that anyone in taiwan can hold so eat. So he's like a night of taiwan so the order of propitious clouds and i think there's like nine ranks of it and the highest is special grand. Cordon and he's special grant. He's special yes. He's very special so he was born then for those who are unfamiliar with chinese geography. Ningbo is a small city. Just a bit south of shanghai. Small like It's about eight million people just casual novick deal china scales ridiculous but certainly wasn't eight million people when morris was born in nineteen thirty one. No but i bet it was still probably pretty big be today. Eight million people crazy so morris. His father was a county official and later became a bank manager. So the family moved around a bunch. A good bit within china has. His father was transferring for work. This is pre people's republic of china. This is pre world war. Two this this is a very different place right. The leadership is not communist. No no so. His early childhood years where like middle-class not wealthy but like pretty well to do relative to your average chinese citizen then when he was six the second sino japanese war breaks out and morris and his mom flee the main part of china to hong kong and they go to live in hong kong for a few years to escape the air raids in the fighting and then on december eighth nineteen forty one three hours after pearl harbor the japanese attack and invade hong kong more stocks about this said. Yeah everybody knows pearl harbor december seventh nineteen forty one. What people don't often talk about is like the same thing happened in hong kong three hours later on the next day so there in hong kong so they flee again back to china they end up in shanghai this time and they stay there for a few years until nineteen forty eight after world. War two is over. But that's when the chinese civil war breaks out that would lead to the chinese communist revolution and they flee again back to hong kong. So this is crazy morris. Before he turns eighteen he has lived through three major wars. The second sign japanese war world war two and the chinese civil war crazy so the next year in nineteen forty nine which is the same year as the establishment of the pse. The people's republic of china morris turns eighteen and with the help of an uncle that he has in boston. His life completely changes. He gets accepted to harvard so he goes to the us. He goes to college at harvard. Like wow talk about a change of fate. Talk about a change of fate. Change of scene everything. Morris says much later my reaction entering. Harvard was sheer ecstasy almost disbelief. What a country. The united states was at its peak in its moral leadership and its political leadership in terms of democracy and it was the richest country in the world not to mention stable. I mean you could say what you want. You could count on the fact that it's likely that ten years from now whatever. Economic structure political structures exist will continue to exist if what you want to do and what he ended up doing with his whole life. Innovate having that stability around you and all those structures enable you to do that like we just take for granted you know but this is a good reminder like at the very least he's probably not going to have to flee boston to continue his studies but he does end up fleeing harvard. As we'll get into morris loved it even that quote we read like he was so overjoyed to be there but he realizes he has kind of a new problem in american at harvard. His parents aren't coming over. he's on his own. He's gotta support himself and make his own way and at that time his race is probably gonna limit his opportunities so as he says quote in the early fifties in the united states there were chinese laundrymen. Chinese restaurant terrors chinese engineers and chinese professors. Those were the only respectable professions for chinese no lawyers. No accountants know politicians. What is harvard chair now lawyers accountants. Maybe politicians yes. Yeah not a lot of. The finance professionals certainly finance professionals as we will see as we will go along. Morris is much more than a finance professional but harvard. Actually didn't have an undergrad engineering program at the time That's crazy to think about. If you're really really focused you're probably going to go down the street in cambridge from harvard to it. It which morris dot so. He only spends his freshman year there and then for his sophomore year he transfers to mit so that he can study mechanical engineering. We're gonna have to the next episode. That madame co-sponsors we're gonna have to add to the alumni companies list amazing why it is amazing like the number of companies and market cap. That have come out of that. University is incredible pilot right and pilot. That's right we have so many companies to add to the list all three co-founders from pylyp. Mit alums so morris are man he has learned the ways of the world in the us. he's focused. He finishes his under his starts mechanical engineering a year. Behind at mit he finished his both undergrad and his masters in the remaining three years. And what year is this. This would have been nineteen fifty one when he transferred fall of nineteen fifty one. Okay so like to contextualize what's going on in the tech world right now with quotes around it because it's not so much a world as a very small continent i mean you have all of the post world war. Two defense spending that went in particularly in the west coast over it with the innovations from stanford but has fairchild semi-conductor started known so maybe shockley semiconductor shockley. Semiconductor was probably just getting going. But we're probably still in vacuum to bell labs yet like the transistor to give you a sense. Silicon is years away. Transistors are probably just getting going were not in the integrated circuit yet. And it's all being done in germanium. Not silicon wow. So it's like this is od. Yep so after. He gets his masters in three years. Morris wants to stay and do a phd fully complete his technical training but he ends up failing his qualifying exams twice. They give you two chances to take any twice by the time to say so. David and i watched and listened to every footage that morris has ever spoken that has been released publicly to prepare for this. He is very funny. Oh he's the way he talks about this. He says that unfortunately the biggest impediment to him going forward was that he failed the qualifying exam but fortunately for him they were kind enough to let him taking a second time which he also failed and he has this really dry clever sense of humor. So one of the interviews he talks about one of the stanford ones. He gets a question from the audience. About how did he kick his smoking habit. That the questioner is like. I know you used to smoke. Like how did you finally stop. And he's like. I never stopped. I still. he's like ninety four years old. He goes on to make the case for why he's a pipe smoker and actually even smoking is hurtful to his lungs. It's actually beneficial for his mental life. So he's pretty sure it's prolonged his life when he says he's delve into the data and pipe. Smokers live longer than non-smokers. I'm sure you can find data support that also. Sure you can find plenty of data to refute that. This gives you a sense of who morris. Okay so he's failed as qualifying exams. He's gotta go out and get a job in not as a phd. He's gotta go get a job as a super entry level as an engineer. I mean he has a masters degree but still okay. So legend has it. He has a couple job offers the one he really wants member. He's a mechanical engineer. And this is like super early days of technology. It's not really a thing. There was electrical engineering at this time. Yes he could but he. He didn't study electrical engineering. But like in terms of where you would wanna work like. It's not really on anybody's radar screen especially morris's that like your and go entered the tech industry. So he gets his dream job offer from the ford motor company. No way yes. I hear that and this is like i'm sure this is apocryphal. But let's repeat the apocryphal story to hundreds of thousands of people. So the legend has it that ford offers him a salary of four hundred and seventy nine dollars a month to go take an entry level job. And then he has a competing offer from sylvania's new semiconductor division and sylvania. I know of this company only because my vacuum growing up was sylvania. Oh well we're in talk much more about selena in one second. This is the competing job offer. He's considering they offer him a salary of four hundred eighty dollars a month. One dollars and legend has it that morris asked ford to beat sylvania's offer they didn't and so he took this job offer. Share that say one hundred percent apocryphal. But you know morris he's great so speaking of selena. Do you remember sir. Some portion of our audience remembers. But do you. Ben remember who else started their career in sylvania's semiconductor division. Right around this exact same time. We've talked a lot about this in this person on the show. No donald t. Valentine no way. That's right so he started at salina after forum or me was after the military he shockley at raytheon and then he joined fairchild fairchild okay right after the traitorous eight left shockley and started fairchild. You're better at remembering these deep details of older episodes and i am well. I do a lot of research. And sometimes research includes pass. Acquired episodes ago. We've truly like become a circular function here so they didn't overlap. Don valentine they were never in the same place they were in different locations and different job functions. Very different job functions. But they were both. I believe both selena amazing at the same time crazy. So don is out tilling in california like we were talking about and falling in love with california. He's playing water polo. Like oh my god. I never gonna leave this place morris. He's on the grind. He gets posted. As a junior engineer at slovenia's hip switch massachusetts plant not quite the same Glamour nez don out in southern california. So remember more says a mechanical engineer. He doesn't know anything about electrical engineering. But he's working in this new semiconductor division so after work. He's living in a hotel by the way he doesn't even get an apartment. It's like some sponsored hotel like would it sad existence. He goes home back to the hotel from work and he studies the best textbook that he can find about electrical engineering which is entitled electrons and holes in semiconductors with applications to transistor electronics written just recently a couple of years before in nineteen fifty. By william shockley. Oh wow yeah shockley into other guys. Basically invented the. I'm not sure it was the first transistor but the first transistor of the type that everything else would then be sort of built upon when they were at bell labs not too long before this. Yeah not too long at getting backing league any acquis vacuum tubes and then shackling men in the transistor and then in a second. We're going to talk about the integrated circuit. That bob noyce and jack kilby who are going to talk about invent toco admitted but anyway okay back to this moment in time so morris is studying the shockley textbook in his hotel room but like he's not a college and he doesn't have any teachers. Cds has the book but he's very resourceful so he figures out that one of the senior engineers at the plant is kind of an alcoholic and hits up the hotel bar almost every night. So more as does is he comes home from work in the early evening. He studies in his room for a couple of hours and then later at night when the older colleagues shows up at the bar morris goes down to the bar not to drink but he brings. The textbook asked the guy he's like. I don't understand this. I don't understand that like grim. And he's just like buying drinks his buddy so great incredible. Here's the quote. He says later he being the older. Kelly didn't solve all my problems but he solved enough so that i could move ahead. He was my main teacher about electrical engineering so great. Wow so this goes on for three years with morris's like he's like roland hard like he's burning the candle at both ends working and at the bar but not drinking learning but as he likes is learning the industry coming up speed it becomes pretty clear to him that if you really wants to go places in this new emerging industry slovenia not really the right bus to be on so to speak And obviously don. Valentine figures out the same thing and jumps to raytheon and then fairchild morris says that the moment when this crystallized for him was there was a talk that senior manager at sylvania gave at the plant and the quote. That senior manager said that stuck with morris for the rest of his life was we at selenium cannot make what we can sell and we cannot sell that we can make real great position to be in some ways is like damn i gotta get outta here. That's a signal to move on gone totally. So like don. Morris leaves selena for greener pastures however not to california. Halfway between manila can rally yup half way in between so we talk a lot about you know fairchild and traders seat silicon valley blah blah blah. You know the place to be like. Here's the secret. Silicon valley's whole marketing like the biggest semiconductor company in all types digital analog. Everything at that time was not in california was in dallas texas whose texas instruments. Which of course me you. Many people in our generation no of people the main are graphing calculators in high school and college but of course at this time i don't even think they had a consumer division yet known that that's gonna come up later no. Ti was in lake now silicon valley. It's silicon valley but then it was like okay california. I dunno west coast. Ti was the big incumbent. They were the doug t. I actually got its start. I had no idea before doing the research here in the thirties. Like you're like hounded technology company ended up in and a semiconductor company end up in dallas texas. They started making instruments. Texas instruments for measuring seismic activity for oil exploration was so all the oil sands values texas. They were like. Tsmc league the technology provider to oil companies. And that's what led them into computing and into digital power that as well and yes like. They were huge. Not just huge in terms of like the company but they were the technology leader. So bob noise. Like i was saying a minute ago is credited when he was at fairchild inventing the integrated circuit and all that while he was the co-inventor simultaneously. It was committed by jack. Kilby who was at ti. And jack was actually the one who got the nobel prize for inventing the integrated circuit. Gordon moore who was also he fairchild in the end then founder of intel. Along with noise he would coin. Moore's law has a great quote to about the implications of the integrated circuit and semiconductors. He says what we didn't realize then this is a little later. When when they were inventing it was that the integrated circuit would reduce the cost of electronic functions by a factor of a million to one. Nothing had ever done that for anything before. Wow it's such a great way to frame it to. This never happened in human history will like there. Is this like hush thing that used to be ex- expensive in terms of resources and then magically one day it's a million times cheaper. Yeah that's crazy. I didn't realize it was on that scale. This is probably a good time to talk about some definitions because there are some things that we've thrown around already that it's worth i think everyone has a general understanding of what these things are but it's worth understanding more precisely before we move on the first of which is a transistor the best way to think about a transistor is not the tiny little transistor. That's on a silicon die today but think about it as a little encased piece of circuitry with three prongs coming out of it and those three prongs will save the technical names basically have an input and output and something that controls the input and the output. It's a switch. It has two purposes the first of which is being switch where you can decide that either. Lots of stuff is go through it. Stuff being voltage current or none or it rounds to none and so that way you can decide. Hey this binary piece of equipment is either off zero or on one okay. So that's a transistor. Now a transistor can be made out of lots of different. Things cannot take any implementation. Why is everybody talking about silicon well. Silicon element is a semiconductor. It is a metal. Loyd it has some properties that make it like a metal like a conductor it has some properties that make it non-conductive like imagine trying to move electrical signal through a piece of wood. It's not gonna work but imagine moving it through copper. It's gonna work really well and you're never going to be able to interrupt it well. Jeez wouldn't it be great if we had some material a semiconductor where we could modify whether current was flowing through it or not exactly and lots of things are semiconductors. Germanium was the main material for a while but like geraniums expensive and rare i sand. It's like the second. Most plentiful mineable element on earth and sand eight. Yeah was that there's other. There's one other major thing thus we've been talking about transistors. The i see. Yeah the i see the integrated circuit the integrated circuit transistor. It's a switch. Before the i see people are making. Switzerland can make to time you wired to another that's like You know if you've seen photos of any vacuum tubes like literally their plug in one tube into another still doing that with transistors. Yep when noise. And kilby invent the ic now you can put a lot of switches on one thing and you fast forward today like you know the latest processor. You're the five nanometer processors that tsmc and basically nobody else churning out out billions trillions of switches earn like a tiny little integrated circuit without the integrated circuit. That never would have happened. So this invention this invention of the integrated circuit it happened in nineteen fifty eight. When did morris. Chang joined texas instruments. Nineteen fifty two fascinating coincidence. Yes totally absolutely absolutely coincidence and again to piss in history here. We're still i think. Ten years before the founding of intel. Yes exactly ten years. Yep morris obviously wasn't working directly with jack on inventing the i see but like this gives you a sense like ti like this is the place. This is like google plus facebook without the world paying attention to and in texas. So morris gets assigned as i project to a sort of Problem child within ti. They have entered into a deal with. Ibm ibm is working on their first mainframe computer major project that's gonna use transistor logic instead of vacuum tubes. The ibm seventy ninety and the anticipate so much. Demand for this product usually ibm manufacturers everything for all their products themselves. But they're like we need more chips than we're going to be able to make ourselves so we need a second source for tips. They turned the ti. And they're like. Hey we can give you all the designs for you know how to do this. This gym that we want for our product we want yuda additionally manufacturer some of these in addition to our own line. You might even say almost like a contract manufacturer of gemstone like a foundry. Business almost Interesting but it's not going to well so ibm's own plant is turning out transistors with about ten percent yield which means that of you know every hundred chips that they turn out of the plant ninety percent of them fail and only ten percent of them work. Yeah that's the first party won the. Ti line has about a zero percent yield. Like they're getting any that. Were almost everything coming off. The line fails at ti. When morris shows up so morris would say about this later quote. The supervisor was concerned. The operators were concerned. Everybody was concerned so morris member. He's mechanical engineer by training right so he starts tinkering. he's like well. I know this is a mechanical process. You chemical mechanical process creating this stuff. I'm just gonna use my training and like optimize it like a good mechanical engineer. So he starts doing some stuff and of dur- after about four months he gets the yields at the ti plant up to twenty percent so twice as good as the first party. One at ibm. And there's a great profile. There was one of the main sources for this episode in. I triple e. spectrum. Oh yeah great industry magazine. That will go from here. They're suddenly even. Ti president pat haggerty. New morris's name ibm thought. Chang had just gotten lucky but when the company. Ibm engineers down to talk to him. Morris described the theories. He'd been testing explained why his experimental process worked this achievement propelled him into his first managerial job. Creating a germanium transistor development department with twenty plus engineers reporting to Says this is his first big win here in the foundry business so on the back of all this. Ti is like art. We gotta rising star here. They offered sponsor him to go finally get his phd. They even offered to continue paying full salary while he's getting speech which they're paying for all right so they think very highly of him. Very very highly of morris. I mean this one probably made the millions doing this in nineteen fifty eight. It's funny. I don't know anything about the commercial. Success of that particular ibm mainframe but if it's the first one that's transistor based instead of being vacuum tube base. I have to imagine it was like far more efficient for customers customers probably lining up for it. I bet there's a lot of demand. Meanwhile and what's more is making a year like twenty thousand dollars. Maybe you know. How much does it cost to go to stanford that not much. So telling shirk so. Morris goes to stanford but like he's now like a pig and money is found his calling. He can't wait to get back to texas back to ti so he finishes his phd in two. And a half years wild One of the stanford interviews with john hennessy. The the president of stanford at the time. And they're joking about like he's like john's like more. How did you tell the students. How did you finish your phd. In two and a half years. I was focused. I didn't do much else. So by nineteen sixty four. He's done he's back at ti. And mrs rate as people have discovered the silicon like way more cost effective and scales up way better than if i remember right. The initial attempts at using silicon were that people didn't know how to work with it yet and so even though it was more abundant and cheaper there's some particular manufacturing process that you have to do to silicon in order to make it as viable as it became. Yes that is definitely correct. I don't remember exactly what it is. It's one of them you know. There's so many silicon semiconductor terms like. It's not masa metal oxide summit connected that comes later. We're going to talk about a bit. Some one of those things that's like an innovation about how to transform how to dope silicon to make it work as a function and produce it at scale as a semiconductor and listeners. This is where you should start to get the idea that especially today manufacturing these products involves the most advanced process in human history consisting of layers of innovation in chemistry physics mathematics. Its breakthrough after break thereafter breakthrough all building on top of each other. Which need to all happen. In the manufacturing process so even here in nineteen sixty four were starting to get into the level of complexity where it's some of the most advanced science ever done being applied in an engineering and manufacturing fashion to get even marginal results at twenty percent yields off the manufacturing line. And you know low preview to fast forward today. Tsmc their contract manufacturer for silicon. That is what they are. Tsmc has forty percent operating margins as a contract manufacturer. It's not like this is dislike. There's no technology are like they are winless advanced technology organizations in the whole world lake. There is so much. Ip just in the manufacturing take out the design takeout the functions. just like making. This stuff is so hard. I mean now lick it involves like lasers like oh we'll get to it later. It's going to blow your mind how this stuff is done. But anyway so morris like he's coming up he's learning like literally as this whole industry is giving developed like he's right there so a couple years after he gets back from stanford he still rising through the ranks in nineteen sixty seven. Ti makes him a general manager of one of the divisions within the semiconductor business. And that's where he has his next big breakthrough and this is on the business side. So morris notices what they're doing setting up these new plants for you know all these successive new a methodologies and processes of manufacturing you know at this point integrated circuits in silicon semiconductors and pumping these chips. It's super expensive to do this. Like super cost capital intensive so what ti and everybody else in the industry dead when they would start a new product line. That would use a new fab for chips. The charged a lot of money for it. 'cause like they put a lot of money into these things so like right off the gate. You want the latest. You know. New hotness in the end products that ti selling the charge a lot of money for them. Morris realized that he's like that's not actually optimal to do that because as evidenced by his first big win at ti with ibm line. There's a learning curve. Attila getting the yields right and learning how to manufacture new process. And in the beginning. You're gonna have really low yield and so what you want. Ideally from you know fabrication perspective. Is you wanna have a ton of volume from the gecko like as soon as the plan is online. You want to be running at max capacity so that you can a learn as fast as possible get yields up to the profitable levels and then you want to still be running max capacity as long as possible because you already spent fixed cost right. Make the plant basically. You always want max capacity so when you started out by pricing so high you kept demand low and you weren't able to get up to capacity fast enough it's almost like they didn't realize the benefit of the potential operating leverage they had because they were just passing their exact economics onto their customers. And saying you basically have to pay us for us to do all these fixed costs and then you'll get all the benefits of the to stamp it off the press every time whereas what they really should have been doing is saying we will make an investment. you know. we'll eat the cost of having to spend all this up but boy are we going to be super profitable on every chip. That comes off the line. Yup totally so morris is thinking about this. He hires bc g. And they come up with the idea of actually pricing low to start to drive this volume and speed up the yield curve and then also decide benefit that is if they're pricing low and everybody else's praising high they're going to grab a ton of market share and probably paying consultants. So here's mars is quote about this. He says this was in the late sixties and boston consulting group was very small outfit when we did this. And we use loads of data a lot of theory and a lot of effort. The result was so-called learning curve pricing. We would automatically reduce start low and then continuing automatically reduced the price every quarter even when the market did not demand it and this was a very successful effort even though it was somewhat controversial. A lot of people thought we were being foolish. Why would you reduce the price when you didn't have to. But we did it because we believed in it and indeed our market share just kept expanding that combined with other strategies made the ti integrated circuits business. The biggest icy business in the world and also the most profitable so this right one it tells getting founded so like screw fairchild screw national screw into like. Ti's kicking all of their butts. And thanks to morris wild And interestingly enough the ecosystem around ti. Maybe i'm off on this. But the reason i always thought that fairchild was sort of so i suppose successful in those days was out of all the defense spending and research that was being done at stanford the government as a customer. But it's texas instruments playing in that ecosystem at all good question. Probably i mean. I think this is a case of lake. The rising tide is floating all boats like yeah fairchild killing it intel's killing it nationals killing it. Ti's just killing a bigger than anybody. Else i see. So the back of this morris gets promoted to vp at ti like one level of the ceo running the entire semiconductor business. That happens in nineteen seventy two and he becomes the obvious leading candidate to be the next ceo of ti. Which he's like. Yeah i want to do that like focused. This is what i love. I have been going to the bar for three years reading a textbook exactly but might be fair to say history. Turns out a knife knifepoint. Things don't entirely go as planned. There's three different viewpoints. As far as i could identify on what happens next to morris at ti. He does not become the next ceo. Obviously viewpoint number one is simply and bradley fair that he was just discriminated against because he was ethnically chinese although at this point. I'm pretty sure already. He was an american citizen but Anyway and he got passed over for. I have no evidence for it but not at all surprised that that was part of what was going on yup south one two second point which morris totally acknowledges t i was really big company. The semiconductor division. He had made it probably the most successful in the most fastest rising division within the company. But you mentioned calculators were starting to launch the consumer products division at this time and so in nineteen seventy eight to six years. He's running the semiconductor division as vp. They move him over to. Vp of consumer products in nineteen. Seventy eight because this was a big new strategic initiative. And it wasn't going super well. And they're like morris is a great manager he can fix and it around different set of competencies though like marketing. Here's more says quote on. This mark sheppard then chairman and ceo of ti agreed with the prevailing wisdom. At the time that a good manager could manage anything in this case. I think he was wrong. I found the consumer business to be very different. Like you're saying the customer set completely different. The market completely different. And what you need to get ahead in that business is different to in the semiconductor business. It's just technology and costs in. Consumer technology helps but it's also the appeal to consumers which is a nebulous thing and not not moore's his drunk suit or at least not anything he's trained in. Yeah makes total sense so in one thousand nine hundred three five years after he gets moved over to take over the consumer business. He hasn't turned it around. It's still struggling. He gets demoted to quote head of quality and people effectiveness which is like pretty much slap in the face. Like this dude built your semiconductor business. Is this when he says he was. Put out to pasture exactly. So that's the number two. Here's number three. I found some evidence on this. It's unclear to me. How much of this is morris fault versus his successor but while morris was definitely responsible for making. Ti semiconductor a powerhouse at some point towards either at the end of his tenure running it or under his successor. They totally dropped the ball. And this is when silicon valley and california takes over so in the mid seventies. The semiconductor industry transitioned over to the metal. Oxide process the mas. You ever hear about mos moths semiconductors precursor. Seamus exactly so that happened in the seventies and ti again was well. They had the best engineers they were well positioned till like lead this transition the and actually most of talent within ti that were the ones that led the industry transition mas left including probably was prominently a guy named eljay seven who left and founded a company called maas tech and then he later became a semiconductor venture capitalist and founded seven rosen ventures which is one of the early vc firm so he was a ti guy and he left and you know the culture at ti. As shown by morris his experience was this was not lake. Traitorous eight silicon valley leave. It was like your company man. You know right at the company right. So motorola poached a whole bunch of mas engineers from ti and it all kind of apart culminating in the biggest huge loss of in them. This is really history turning on a knife. Point in nineteen eighty. So morris has already transitioned. Consumer products ibm puts out a secret. Rfp bid proposal for secret project that they're working on. This is nineteen eighty by new group based out of boca raton florida. You know i'm talking about then. I have no idea some listeners. Might know what i'm talking about. This is the secret project this is the rfp to be the microprocessor. The cpu for the secret project. Wait nineteen what year is this. Eighty nine thousand nine hundred eighty now. I have no idea the. Ibm pc okay. That was a boca raton. Yeah it was a secret project. A skunkworks division of ibm to build the p. c. Which is a big you know. Ibm mainframe company right. We're going to build a personal computer so skunkworks project and ti. You know couple of years. Earlier under morris would have been the leading an obvious candidate member he had the relationship with. Ibm going all the way back. Ti probably should've been the processor chosen right instead. Of course it was. Intel eighty eighty eight. That was chosen for that. I wound boy to that. Set things in motion will then. The architecture standardize on x eighty six and like bloom. There goes the whole next generation of computing away from ti over to intel the family of ibm with intel processors and eventually running microsoft operating systems. Then all the ibm clones all running. Intel processors okay so this is really where you lost the highway of history read. Ti accidently took the off ramp. There they now okay. So like is that says fault as the now more. I don't know all three of these things like certainly some discrimination certainly like the culture at ti was we rotate you around. You're gonna fix consumer. He didn't fix consumer but couldn't and then dislike the semiconductor powerhouse. Took an offer as you say all that like his career is basically over. So the he was the rising star he was. Everybody thought he was going to be the next. Ceo and at age fifty two in nineteen ninety-three after he stays a couple of years being the like head of whatever he was something staff. Yeah he just resigns and he's like well well. I guess it my career at ti thirty years done. He still regarded super highly in the industry though in the semiconductor industry so people start calling him with opportunities and he wants to be a ceo he wanted to be see of ti. That didn't happen like he wants to be a but he whittled it down to opportunities. He's going to consider one is to go to a competitor called general instrument which people may have heard of another one of these old chip companies based in new york in manhattan in new york city actually to be their o the number two there with like understanding that like hey things go well in a couple of years. You'll replace the ceo. Become the other or to become a venture capitalist really. Yeah so the. I don't know where or how i couldn't find that out. But he was weighing these two opportunities. The vce ideas gonna come back up in a big way in a second but obviously he goes what. General instruments deny his dream to be to be. He's got this chip on his shoulder from the way. Ti and so great so he goes off to new york he leaves texas. He goes lives in manhattan. Things are gonna work out of g. i. thing though is g. I had a very different culture than ta. Not was this research like bill developed technology. Push the ball forward. I is this like new york based there were almost like at the time. Like a pro tech private equity firm. Their strategy was they just acquired now. Lots of different semiconductor businesses either independent companies or divisions from other companies. They would acquire them. They would like get these business units in good shape and then it's alamagan. Oh really yeah. They were like literally. They were only financial engineering firm. Basically definitely not more his cup of tea so he only stays there a year. It's clear that like that's not a good fit. So here's lines again so within less than eighteen months. He's had two major major setbacks in his career. Like basically you know his dream is over like. Here's the quote from him. He says after these two setbacks at ti gi. I think that my aspiration to be the ceo of a major us company was in the cards. Well turns out he was right he was not going to be the major. Us company so how do we go from like this dude. In his mid fifties former rising star now washed up from that till like he's in taiwan cotr mc. I think you could ever skip this. I think this is probably the most unique. Every founding story is unique. But i think this might be the most unique founding story. We've had acquired so far so back when morris was at ti when he was running the the semiconductor business there. He went over to taiwan a couple times to talk about building a manufacturing plant their ti. I would own building manufacturing play but like outsource taiwan not like tsmc style. Business like as ti. Plant there anyway. He had no connection to taiwan members. Chinese like he's not he's not from taiwan people are like always like. Oh you went back to taiwan. He didn't go back to taiwan. He talks about how. Taiwan was a strange land to him when he first got there. That it's not going back so it's not. The land is a strange place to him but like if he is going to call some place home and return. There is at the people's republic of china. Well i think he would say at this point. It's america like he's been in american particularly he's a us citizen like well. I don't know what he would say. It's complicated so anyway. So he had met a bunch of government officials in taiwan when he was talking about building this plant over there. and that was back in the seventies. now we're in the eighties mid eighties taiwan. At this point it's a manufacturing nation. They have no ip. no technology. Like the great morris quote. You have it okay. The quotes grade all right. So this is morris. We had no strength in research and development or very little. Anyway we had no strengthen circuit design. I see product design had little strengthened sales and marketing. And of course referring to taiwan as a nation and we had almost no strength in intellectual property the only possible strength in taiwan that we had and even that was just a potential one. Not an obvious one was semiconductor-manufacturing wafer manufacturing and so what kind of company would you create to fit that strength and avoid all the other weaknesses. The answer was a pure play foundry. Yeah i mean. That was taiwan at the time. So to give you a sense. The typical gross margin like the average gross margin of a taiwanese company at this point in time in the mid is four to five percent. Zero four two zero five percent gross before even have overhead operating costs. Yeah i mean it was like you know if you were a group around when ben and i did you know sorta born in the eighties in the us. You see made. In taiwan on everything like barbie dolls toys clothes like everything was made in taiwan. You know now. It's being china or maiden you know vietnam or elsewhere on in taiwan was super low end physical manufacturing stuff. Yeah way pull forward. The seven power section like as hamilton. Helmer would sort of explain if your margins particularly your gross margins are only four or five percent. You're in an industry or a business where all the prophets arbitrage away and everyone's just race to the bottom on prices and no one's able to build any real enterprise value because everyone's just out competing each other for pure commodity. I mean four to five percent. Gross margins lake people used to hammer on like amazon. I guess for being like a low gross margin business in the league forty percent anyways. I can't even imagine running a company with that level of gross margins so the time when he's government though wanted come up in the world really is not where we this is where we are now. This is not where we want to be. So they knew that technology was the way and so they had decided back in the seventies that they would establish an initiative called the industrial technology research institute or itchy and the goal was for it to become like the bell labs of taiwan do transfers from the us and elsewhere and like homegrown some real technology businesses in taiwan. So that you know maybe they can lift a business out of poverty there. At least until morris wasn't like going to taiwan to start tsmc no. He was being recruited to entry so one of the ministers he had met a guy named kt lee because of this he would also become like venerated in taiwanese. History known as the father of taiwan's economic miracle literally because of this he recruits more to come over and run eatery like be like the head of bell apps. Taiwan essentially and this is like a ridiculous thing for morris to do like he had been captain of american semiconductor industry. The fourth league. He was put out to pasture at ti but at least he was still at ti and then he was like ceo at general instrument. He's gonna go over to taiwan. Take run like a research park. They're like what and like every time someone starts something like this. It doesn't go well. A government top down innovation mandate from a country. That's not a world. Power tends not to turn into a gigantic. Economic success is like all the countries and cities in the like that are like. Oh we only earned build the next silicon valley in totally xyz and we're gonna recruit some former silicon valley person come to do that. And it's gonna work probably not gonna work so everybody tells them not to do this all his former colleagues his wife at the time. Tell them not to do this. His marriage was actually falling apart. Maybe in part because of this and you know he's had all these experience he's like you know what i just. I need a change of scene. I gotta get outta here. So he takes the job and he figures it's going to because he was like Pseudo retirement totaling into so. Here's his quote by then. I was financially pretty secure. I was not rich but you also have to realize that the standards of wealth were much lower back in nineteen eighty five. And he's going to live in taiwan where corporate magnets have five percent margins but so he says but still in absolute standards. I was financially secure. Which meant that. I could live according to the way desire which was actually pretty modest for the rest of my life without having to earn a living or a salary. This is retirement. He also makes a joke. I remember after that. About how by the way interest rates were higher back then so that was much more. Achievable on sprints. So nineteen five. He goes over. He takes over as president of each. It's kind of a culture clash. So this is retirement for morris. But he's still coming from this hard charging industry. All of the employees of tree are people in government jobs in taiwan and government jobs. Not even you know. In like a democracy because taiwan is like not really gets under martial law. I think that a just ended. You know this is not the same. Beat up this zoellick jobs for life. You're a government official in a non democracy type or and more says back then. They considered me a foreigner who suddenly became their boss. They were scared of me and they were to be scared of him. So there was one thing though that the government had done right before morris showed up which was they had successfully negotiated one technology transfer license in the semiconductor industry. From did you. Did you find out what company this was. This is probably what they were trying to negotiate with. ti four. But i too. It's a three letter acronym. Oh yeah yup yup yup. We haven't talked much about it on this show but this is another yeah. Captains of american industry are ca rca. That's right yeah so. Rca semiconductor line and the government in the seventies. the taiwanese government had negotiated tech transfer. But this is like a ten year old doctor technology right yes. It's not like the latest generation no ti and intel and everybody like in fairchild there the national they're leading the way like there the leading edge of semiconductor manufacturing process. Rca was already at least generation behind by the time it actually gets onto the ground in taiwan there two and a half generations behind the leading producers. So it's like the only thing that you could do with that is super low. End right there are some category of goods. That don't need aid fast. Or the latest processor and totally out even today when tsmc or intel or samsung or whoever built a fab the leading edge fabs they produced the leading edge stuff for a while and then the new generations come on. They don't shut down the old ones right. it's chips that don't need the same bleeding edge performance. They keep getting made on the on the one hand often. That's automotive or now what we think of as iot but like the stuff on your smartphone obviously is the the leading edge so the government eatery does actually spin out a company Using this old. Rca technology that would be called. Umc united micro electronics corporation. Not a technology leader. It actually does okay. In the long run they would later spin out their own chip design business so you mc was doing both fabrication for third party clients and designing some of their own chips with the fab that they created the spin out their chip design business later that becomes media tech ono way which is a fifty billion dollars company. Today hasso lake you know the government did pretty good pretty good totally we're doing. And you know when morris arrives because of this he's not starting from a standing start. Right is not good but there's dates created a company. There's a paved path so yes to work at a trees working on all this. He's transforming the organization into a high performing organization and then all of a sudden out of nowhere. Katie lee comes back to him and he's like. Hey great you're running. You know our bell labs you run a nutri tree now. I want you to start a company mars. Like he's like makita. Yea i. I don't want i don't want you to have somebody else in egypt. Dude i want you morris chang to start a new semiconductor company here in taiwan and i want you to make it into a global leader. Moore's like okay. I think he doesn't say this directly but While he's got a great what. I'm going to say in a minute but lake again remember. This is not a democracy. In taiwan morris has also on his third job in three years. And like yeah. He doesn't need a salary to survive but like this kind of the end of the road for him if he gets fired here at he tree like he's legit like dun dun dun dun so he kinda doesn't have a choice here the quote. This is so morris. Oh great he says. It was like in the movie the godfather it was an offer. I couldn't refuse and i do think. The implication was ghost. Start an intel or go start. Ibm it wasn't go. Start the very first pure play. Foundry lee had no. He's government. he's a minister right. Here's like go. A semiconductor company made it a world leader right. Those semiconductor companies. They do really well. You so go dude do that here. And that's of course when morris says okay. I'm being told i should do this. I have some latitude. I can taken some liberties. I can take on how i do it and the quote that i read earlier about evaluating exactly what type of semiconductor company should i start. That's how he sort of informs the business plan so lee is lake all right. Good way to peace clear like hey come back to me in a week with business plan. Tell you what you need and we're making it happen right. Smart okay a week ouray and then like a day later. He lied supposedly. Actually i need. You need to come in on friday so catholic three days and You know they say necessity is the mother of invention and yet these days are like what creates the ninth. Most valuable company in the world morris comes up with this brilliant idea to create a pure play foundry company to be a contract manufacturer sounds genius today. In hindsight steve jobs would say it's easy to connect the dots looking backwards. But at that time. Was this a good idea to even well. No the answer is no you know like we've sorta said all along all the chip companies all the american and european and japanese all the other leading semiconductor companies. They made their own stuff. You know and there was some sharing of production and some you know. Companies were emerging that were borrowing production from. You know the big guys. There's a great quote right around this time from jerry sanders who is the co founder and ceo of amd and he famously said in the mid nineteen eighties. That quote real men have fabs has a right close so ironic because in the two thousands. Amd would spin out it's fabs yeah and go fallacy slow foundries. Yeah global foundries but yeah. This is not an obvious idea. Like if you wanted to be a real semiconductor company you you made your own chips and the idea was like yeah. I mean this was. So this isn't like manufacturing barbie dolls here like this real technology like you need to control it soup to nuts and already at this point in history. I mean this is an important point to make. Because i didn't realize this coming in where i thought. Wow apple really outsource their manufacturing. They outsource some of it. Tsmc and some of it to foxconn and like maybe. Some of those people will start to do each other's work. No this is a completely different thing. Assembling an iphone is completely completely different than taking a brand new design for a next generation chip and manufacturing that ship. One is manufacturing in one is alchemy. The alchemy can only be done by alchemists. Think even here in the late eighties. Were already at the point. Where like it's manufacturing images. Yeah it's not like well. I got a factory. No no no no no no far the opposite of that. We said this is a bad idea so more says now however there was one problem with the pure play foundry model and it was a fatal problem. It could be a fail problem. Which was where's the market. He sounds like don valentine here. Where's the market. Show me the market. This whole idea. It was really a solution looking for a problem. And of course the solution being that all. We have is manufacturing capability here. So let's start a company that just manufactures and it's like you're looking around like okay. Real men have fabs. Yeah there was real start our startups these startups building. their own. Fabs like nobody wants to do this so nonetheless you know he has to start a company literally got a gun to his head but he does have the core insight here. It's interesting these companies. Don't exist yet. But morris has reasonable leave that people will want to start fabulous chip companies and that they will need a foundry to fab those chips and so he says when i was at ti and general instrument. I saw a lot of integrated circuit designers wanting to leave and set up their own business. But the one thing or the biggest thing that stop them from leaving those companies was they couldn't raise enough money to form their own company because at the time as we were just saying real men it was thought that every company needed manufacturing needed their wafer manufacturing and that most capital intensive part of a semiconductor company of an icy company does the manufacturing. And so i saw those people wanting to leave but being stopped by the lack of ability to raise a lot of money and build away for fab totally right but those companies. This if you build it they will come. They haven't started they haven't come. You haven't come you so morse's kinda got like. He knows what the long term market is gonna be. But he's gotta find the short-term market. He needs some a real politic. Here like so. What's that gonna be. So he says well maybe i can go round to the big guys they've been doing. You know desolate my first thing back at ti. They've been doing some line sharing you know for either new products that they need excess capacity for or for older products that they need to transition fabs but they still need to make components. Maybe i can take some of that off their hands and so he goes around and goes he talks to intel tossed at. Ti talks to everybody in the industry and like yeah. He talks to motorola like sure. Fine and the government had told them okay. You know figuring out it's going to can take a lot of money to set up a fab. We're going for half of it but you gotta go raise the other half of it and we want you to raise it from like an teller at ti. You know somebody who's gonna be your first customer. They're going to be bought in. She's like he does around because talks to everybody he gets meetings with intel. He gets means with ti. They're both like you know morris we like you so he said the last ditch effort and he has a meeting with philips the dutch company. They have a semiconductor business. So morris has a great quote about this. He says he would describe phillips as the first wrung of the second raiders. Semiconductors but they were the only interested option so they put up twenty eight percent of the capital. The government puts up fifty percent. It ends up. Being two hundred twenty million in total one hundred and ten is probably a lot more than what the taiwanese government here and then literally the premier of taiwan like the head of the government has to then go around to all the other business leaders in taiwan and like strong arm them into investing the rest of it the other. What is at twenty two percent. I guess we also should quick hearsay. Remember that phillips was a dutch company. 'cause that's gonna come into play later. I don't know how it's gonna come into by putting a pin in. Okay okay. we got surprise coming. I'm gonna be surprised here. We're doing a real. Did doing a real time doing live. This may be the craziest part about the whole. Tsmc founding story. I'm ninety nine point nine percents year. Ben you do not know this. Who do you know what the pre money valuation was on. Tsmc no i couldn't find that anywhere. It was zero dollars. Morris chang got no equity zero so one hundred percent of the company was owned by the investors fifty percent by the government. The other fifty percent owned by the investors. Morris got nothing and just got to keep his salary government employee. Wow there by the grace of government. Oh my god. Isn't that unbelievable. Like this is so the opposite of silicon valley. Three billion dollars today. Well what he did as lick. Tsmc started work. He basically put all of his money into buying. He bought his own shares the company. I don't know if it was on the private made privately before they went public in on the taiwan stock exchange in nineteen ninety four and then the new york stock exchange in nineteen ninety seven but yeah he put basically all of his like excess cash flow into into buying tsmc shares. Oh my god. Isn't that wild. So the government owned fifty percent of the whole business and you can see their perspective to bill came. We hired you to do this. We told you to do this. You are foot soldier like we are the mafia. Wow yeah things had really not gone well in his career that he was willing to take that deal. Yeah crazy right and before we go on in. Tsmc story we need to have to real quick sidebars. Yeah we're talking about december nineteen eighty-seven yep when tsmc gets officially set up there as the money at zero dollar pre money valuation dino. What other to come well other other company other big thing happened in nineteen eighty seven. We have covered it on this show in the tip world. Is this the founding of arm. Yes it is as arm. Jv between apple acorn and violeta logic. Which was the sort of manufacturing partner. They were an essex company. That's a whole 'nother side. We're not gonna get into by nineteen eighty seven. What a year brand new unconventional instruction set architecture. And it's totally different than the x86 stuff that the whole industry and world seems to a standardized on at this point the annus mirabilis for the semiconductor industry and useless right. It's in one thousand nine hundred and tam strong. It's very few instructions. Pc's are always plugged in. So what do we need a low power chip for this pathetic. Real men have fabs manpower okay. So that's number one arm gets starting okay. I was wondering. I don't actually know the relationship because obviously today. A huge amount of volume of tsmc's manufacturing is making chips for iphones which has since the outset has used arm chips that are using all mobile devices iphones and android all of which are arm and lots of servers. There's some relationship coming between. Emc arm Well they're they're really close partners. I mean the way now like this stuff is so integrated. The architecture companies like arm the design the companies like synopsis. These guys are all deeply the engineering all deeply in bed with one. Another okay so you mentioned. Eda this is. I'm gonna take your sidebar. And i'm gonna you're gonna assisted. Raise me even raise you one more. Sidebars listeners were to clicks out here so this is a pretty good point to talk about How the value chain went from one company that created transistors. And then they designed the chip. They manufactured the chip. They marketed the chip. Here's how the value chain looks today. And i think you've already alluded to like i think in the eighties already started to look like this. I there's eda there's electronic design automation. This is the software that chip designers like professional chip designers used to do their work so synopsis. I think cadence jenkins another big. They're the two leaders said that that's like you know excel or like figure for like chip designers league battle with they use tools. Yup so that's category one of four and of course as you can imagine the software design the chips probably has to be very aware of the manufacturing capability of who's going to be manufacturing the chips but less than that for a second so then of course there's the fabulous ship design companies so today think apple and video qualcomm broadcom eventually. Amd after they stopped being real apparently tons of innovative new startups. Now like Cerberus pa semi has acquired. Oh pm is coming in a sec. Okay okay. so you've got the companies that are making the software the fabulous companies that are designing the chips using the software then third. There's one company that we have not talked about yet. One component of the value chain and these are the people that manufacture the machines. Oh yeah that go into the factories that the foundries opera. There's actually one between well. No actually i think above. Eda there is one more part of the value chain. There's a fifth. Which is i p. I'm so that's all e arm architecture. There's actually a ton of companies. Now that do just straight up. I p and i thought before this episode these were like oh just shell. Companies that sue one another about. Ip systems are on a chip. Now it's like everything is on like one chip. Basically you need a usb functionality in your chip you don't need to design the you just buy some ip off the shelf that's like so so there are companies that do that. Yep okay so that's a good point. That's our fifth sort of like ip. They own the instruction set architecture. They kind of create the general rules that you're playing by when you're designing a chip such whoever's writing the compilers knows what assembly language they're targeting that can then operate on the chip that's going to be designed so we covered the eda. We covered the ip. We covered the fabulous companies. There's somebody before we get to the foundries which is the equipment manufacturers that sell. Tsmc so more. Historically you've got lamb research you've got applied materials in the us. You've got tokyo electron and japan. But today i want to give everyone a taste of this and then we'll get more to it later. There's a company that is also dutch-based there. It is there. It is a snl which was originally asm. Lithography and lithography is marginally in scope for this episode. There's a whole thing we could do on the magical process. That is the grammy back to my high school photo writing here and the l. as therapy so the company was originally called they make the most advanced chip manufacturing machines in the world. They're the only company that makes them. They're located still in the netherlands. Their biggest customer is tsmc. They and this is where. I want to bring it all the way back around. And we of course. We'll talk about the magic. That is these machines later. It was founded in one thousand nine hundred four as a joint venture between advanced semiconductor materials. International asm with graffiti and phillips. Oh wow i did not know this that. Ask craziest the beginning of the relationship between And they're oh. Wow what a strategic point. I mean because lake you. Well it's it's tsmc's insane capital operating cash flow production that enables them to spend cac above anybody else that allows them to buy maurya smell equipment than anyone else but that relationship. Wow i mean these machines like we'll get into atlanta. Yeah you it's going to blow your mind. This stuff does okay. Back to my second sidebar. Also going to be worth it right and we did. An episode wave is like episode twenty. Some this is like an acquired is a very different show when it was actually about small acquisitions totally yeah so. I don't know that we actually covered this but i- uncovered in the research for this episode. Do you know the origins of semi no. I don't okay so arm my sidebar number one nine hundred eighty seven also created right there just an ip design company. Like i was saying you're sidebar inception over here so they just license out the arm architecture to other companies that then design using the arm architecture. One of their original licensees was deck digital equipment corporation. Like oh gee you know way back in the day yet so. They took the arm architecture and a tuned it for performance and they called what they did at deck their version of arm that they created strong arm and that product line within deck would later be acquired by intel of all places okay crazy. What intel acquired an arm architecture right there the x eighty six yeah they re marketed it as ex- gi l. I i think they ended up shutting down So bunch the core engineers on the team like the team that working with arm from back in the day. And they're like we've got acquired by intel. What the hell like screw this. We don't to go work for right interesting flourishing alternative architectures at intel. We're arm engineers. We're in gusto owned company. That's pi semi so the is the underpinnings of all of apple's chips today totally so the lineage of all apple silicon probably the most valuable defensible part of apple. Today in terms of like technology was deck armand deck to intel. Dabble that's wild. So i don't think i ever knew that. So you can trace apple silicon all the way back to apple. Yeah because arm was a. Jv right with apple. Yeah crazy with intel. Wow okay so back to bhakti. Mc so like the short term market is like morris basically begs all of his old colleagues in the us and european and japanese semiconductor industries to just give the dregs to tsmc and it really was the dregs. So here's morris on on what this was the. ibm's would let us manufacturer. They're wafers only when they didn't have capacity or when they didn't wanna manufacture the stuff themselves anymore now when they didn't have the capacity and asked us to do the manufacturing then as soon as they got the capacity they would stop giving us orders so it wasn't a stable market when these wasn't actually a thing they wanted to outsource they were is just like they didn't have the capacity so they needed some extra access space but then when they got the capacity online they took it away and then when they the tips that they gave us that they didn't wanna make anymore while the reason they didn't want to make it was it was losing money so they basically just transferring their losses on producing these chips to dsm. How do they get out of this. So mars continues. The conventional conclusion at the time was that there was no market. That's why the pure play foundry idea was so poorly. Thought of what very few people saw. And i can't tell you that i saw was the rise of the fabulous industry i only hoped for it and then as you said but i had better reasons for hoping for it than the people at intel at ti motorola. Because i was standing outside when i was at. Ti in general instrument. I saw out of these icy designers wanting to leave start their own businesses and the constraints was setting up their own fabs. Now remember silly. Yes he saw that at. Ti member he had been considering becoming a vc instead of going over to a tree. So this is the ultimate end around he becomes essentially like the world's best semiconductor. Vc he takes an index out on the whole future innovation and entrepreneurship market in semiconductors by becoming the platform that they're gonna build on instead of like going investing in them like enables all of it. He's like the white combinator of Semiconductors right or in many ways the tencent tencent of course also does direct investing. But the idea that you could get distribution through we chat. It's kinda like it's not distribution but it is you know manufacturing. There is a thing that you have to raise ten to twenty percent of the capital that otherwise would have needed to raise if tsmc exists yup. And just like don. Valentine kind of when he left to go join bbc a generation earlier. This is not. Vc it's tsmc's building the platform but morris is a hero so all these engineers they all look up to him and he knows a lot of them personally. The ones he doesn't know. Who's going to take a meeting with morris chang. He almost ran tie know totally like he. He did all this amazing stuff. It's interesting because it's like with the incumbent of course because they had it in their dna to be a manufacturer of course they wanted to take the most profitable things and manufacture them in house. But if you actually are betting on all these startups that will never develop dna to be their own manufacturer. They never want to take that back. Yeah and so. Morris is now going down now vandalizing. He's like all these greatest centers like where an option for you. Now like you wanna leave. You wanna start come. you don't need a fab will be your fab. You know it takes a couple of years for a couple of years. Tmc to survive on the dregs from the the items. The big guys. But after a couple of years these startups get going a little. Little companies like qualcomm. Broadcom marvell invidia. These are all started with. Dmc nvidia was started in nineteen ninety-three only ever raised twenty million dollars. A million dollars never open their own fab one hundred. I believe one hundred percent with tsmc. Wow to said well may maybe they have other sources other foundries to the vast majority of their business from the beginning of the end Jensen talk about this long. It took him actually a little while to get on on morris's radar but once he did in the vast majority of in videos chips. Tsmc makes them and videos. What like three hundred and fifty four billion dollar market cap company now wild and only raised twenty million dollars like that. Just would it's it's like. Aws for you know tip companies never would have been possible before so. This is what super cool. I don't think morris saw like this even exceeds wildest dreams he was hoping for this fabulous market to take off but this creates this insane. Flywheel for tsmc so the fabulous market starts to grow. Which they're like seating and enabling it as that happens. Tsmc's revenue growth and because they have fifty percent gross margins and forty percent operating margins. They can take that prophet and plough more comebacks billboard fabs advanced the level of technology remember. They were starting from behind technology. Within about ten years they catch up and then they start to accede everybody else. So as they push manufacturing process technology forward their manufacturing better chips with smaller wave veto process links they're enabling their customers which the fabric companies to get better and better performance as they get better performance the fabulous companies can address more of the market and more use cases so their existing customers get bigger and new faubus customers. Start which gives them more revenue with repeats the whole cycle and you know it goes slowly flywheel like it takes a lot of effort and a lot of time to start turning but fast forward to now so in the early two thousands when tsmc finally caught up to the level of bleeding edge a level of technology with other semiconductor companies. There were twenty two companies that were at the leading edge. I think it was like. I don't know let's call it a hundred and fifty nanometer process or something like that at that point in time twenty two and tsmc finally broke it to the pack. They are one of the twenty two by the late. Two thousands had gone from twenty two down to fourteen that were at the leading edge by the mid twenty tens. There are six. It's basically samsung. Tsmc right today there too. At five nanometer process the current leading edge. It's only tsmc and samsung. Intel has been trying to get there but they haven't been able to they fallen behind and the next process is going to be three nanometers. Dsm's he's gonna want that next year by the way just slip six months Interesting well samsung has already slipped. Twenty twenty four so very likely in the next process is just gonna be tsmc which means that you will see that on an apple slide somewhere announcing the next iphone talking about how to three animator process. They'll take all the credit for it and if he has. I'm totally fine with that. Because their job is not to market. It's to empower their customers. This against just like unreal. Who happens here. Do they run the table. On the whole industry it is interesting that the industry went from vertical horizontally aggravated where the very best products in the market became horizontally integrated. And it's interesting. How i'm trying to figure out what drove that because at some point i guess there's a couple of components to it. One is the speed at which moore's law happens makes it such that. You can't be good at everything you can't be good at everything from eda. To making the manufacturing equipment to running the manufacturing process to designing the chips. You're going to write your own instruction set architecture. People need to break into best of class has got this great quote about. This said that i haven't here. So he says the semiconductor business is like a treadmill that speeds up all the time. If you can't keep up you fall off. And that's moore's law from twenty two down to two down to one like even when their competitors are only doing. The one thing that tsmc has done you fall behind by a step. You're toast right. And it's because i mean that there's this big part of it that you're talking about that hasn't come up on other episodes because we tend not to talk about companies that require a lot of manufacturing prowess but in order to stay on that treadmill the number of tens of billions of dollars that you need to be spending into cap. Bax is going up so you need to be enormously profitable so you can build the factories for the next generation. Yeah i mean while two things so yes that is one hundred percent true and the scale of this now mean. Tmz just announced they're gonna spend a hundred billion dollars in kabaka over the next three years. Thirty billion dollars this year. Sixty over the next to you. And i bet that keeps going up so that's a lot of billions. Now here's the you might even say like. This is so strategically important. People are talking about this. Certainly china's talking this the us government's now talking about this governments might decide to come in and just lake with a bazooka of money and create other options. Because like almost all their manufacturing's in taiwan it's in this strategically do politically challenged location. We need to reopen shore. Some of this in the us china of course wants their own. You can't spend the money us. Us government could come in. And say we're gonna spend a trillion dollars this year to do this. They can't do it because you can get the powers later but there's like this marriage of scale economies and processed power the tsmc like in this industry. There is no amount of money you could spend catch up next year. You can't because the engineering is so hard in. The learning curve takes decades to lake. Get to this point where you know. I was listening to podcasts at bloomberg. Odd lots pie about this whether you're talking about this and there reporter who covers. Tsmc's great china. They're question like the war. China could just spend a billion dollars in and do this. Create their own fabs. And they're doing this. What's the company called. Sms smick 'cause basically tsmc seems to have picked a side in the us with a little bit of prodding. I'm sure from various presidential administrations over the last five years. Yup guy who covers. Tsmc was like they can do that and they are doing that but they wouldn't know what to do with it and it's not because they're dumb. It's the hardest thing that's the hardest thing in the world. Yes to do this stuff to make the equipment that aml does and to it manufacturer the way that tsmc does it is the hardest thing to do in the world. Anybody else could get all the same equipment from snl. Actually that's not true. So what i'm saying even if you could even you wouldn't know what to do with it right and it's not because you're dumb. It's like they're only like a small number of people in the world that can operate this stuff. All right i'm jumping out of my seat here so i have to. I'm going to do the. Snl thing now so the reason that some people can't get their hands on the snl equipment is because the netherlands did not renew their trade agreement with china. Likely likely it has been reported that probably that is because of us prodding to say hey these pieces of equipment. You're making seem pretty specialized. You're the only people in the world who can do it. And it makes the most cutting edge. Semiconductor manufacturing technology Maybe let's not sell that to s china and so they're not doing that now. You might say like come on. How hard can this stuff be. Well these for sheila what these machines do well first of all. They cost two hundred million dollars for a machine. That makes the chips. And that's going to go up to like three hundred million dollars and by the way on a lot of this. We have a lot of thank yous for john. Bathgate and britain. John's from the episode of the knowledge project that they went on to talk about a lot of this stuff. It takes four seven forty sevens to ship one of these machines. So you you buy one your tsmc You buy one and arrives in. Of course december seven. Then there's a crew of snl employees on site not only to assemble it but then to help you run it so like you mentioned. These companies are deeply integrated with each other to be able to pull this off. Okay so what is running at me. What are these do okay. So it becomes exponentially harder to manufacture chips the more dense. They are so david you mentioned that hundred and fifty nanometers or so from several years back and we know now that the m ones are made on this five nanometer process well. The wavelength of white light of regular light is one hundred ninety three nanometers. Who seems like a problem. Well certainly wide but the where humans. We come up with clever solutions. We can solve this and so you shoot it through a lens and maybe shoot it through some water there laser you well not yet. But even that really only gets us to like eleven nanometers. So how the heck are we supposed to make these chips. Where the transistors are. Ostensibly only five nanometers apart when what we've done to date shooting through lenses and shooting through water gets us to eleven nanometers. Well okay so this is crazy. You have to create a plasma. So what they do. And this is called extreme ultraviolet light or uv. This is a process that is just wild on one side of the machine. You drop molten tin on the underside machine. You then hit it with a highly specialized laser. You perfectly pulse them. It explodes into a plasma which creates extreme ultraviolet light. Now of course this is hard enough to do as you can imagine how that might work. But you actually have to do that. Fifty thousand times per second. Yeah and what i read. Is that the accuracy with which that laser needs to hit. The drop of molten is more precise than the calculations to send the apollo missions to the moon. And you got to do that. Fifty thousand times a second unbelievable now. Of course think a little bit more about this. Well wait a minute. That wavelength is so small. We're going you know. Shy of eleven nanometers here. We're gonna five nanometers three meters that actually it is absorbed by all known mirrors which were used to reflecting light but they don't reflect this light because the wavelength this so small so part of this process involves reflecting it like a bunch of times. Like twenty or something before etching silicon. So what do we do. We actually needed to invent a new type of mirror to do this and they also needed a contract with german company to make this special type of laser which is the only known company in the world capable of making it so like this is crazy stuff. They only make fifty of these machines per year or so they used to have competitors like nikon used to compete with. Snl on this. But it's too hard they gave up. That's how hard extreme ultraviolet lithography is. And of course. We haven't talked a lot about this. And i think it's outside the scope of the show but just to overly simplify lithograph is the process of taking that silicon wafer. An etching design on it. And if we wanna do that in smaller and smaller ways we gotta do with more and more specialized equipment and at the end of the day. If you wanna make the to the three you know the a eighteen x bionic whatever. It's going to be called it. There is no other way to make it then. This extreme cutting edge alchemy. it truly alchemy so ben. So you're a government you you wanna throw one hundred acquired doing really well. We're we're we're on a tear here you know we've got we've got power. We got brand power. We got all sorts. We got we got network economies. We got our community like we're doing well. We should invest in. We was opportunity we compete with. Tsmc screw the government. will it will do. We've got a couple hundred million dollars. What will buy this stuff. You have a cs degree the more tactical one of a you. You can run this stuff right you can when we get the shipments from snl. You can make this happen. Wouldn't know the first thing to do. It's like even if we could invest the cash even if we could build the facility even if we could buy the machines which by the way that's gonna be hard because there's fifty some on back order so like i can't even get out all of them for years it takes people who have done the most advanced manufacturing in the world ever in history in order to know how to do the next version of it and this is why. Tsmc as forty percent operating margins. It's crazy totally crazy. I'm just like in awe of this completely okay. So a little while back before we get totally geeked out on. That was awesome. You said something like how do we get this. Flywheel effect tino is great but like how do we really get from. Tsmc started taking the dregs from the idea. And then the fabulous companies came along. How do we get from there to lake. Now there's another really important chapter here and you're gonna flash us for from like ninety three ninety five to like twenty eight. Okay well i. We'll stop in two thousand five so two thousand five things going well better than morris ever met these albums. Companies are getting started in videos killing. I mean i was making gaming. Pc's at the time i wanted. Those nvidia gp video wasn't a top twenty stock in the world. I mean come on right. Real men have fabs. Okay maybe we were beyond that part but like they were making. Gp's like invidious stock tracked like whether they won the next sony contract for the next playstation xbox was the market was the market great market. But it's not not what we're not about machine learning. It's not about crypto. It's like is the next playstation could include your chipper not totally but still great for tsmc. It's awesome two thousand five more seventy four years old. He's like aright. i did it. I did it any. i've been buying. Tsmc stock with my own money. It's done well enough. I didn't really need to work. Anyway mccall it. I ready to retire. Ready right off into the sunset. He hands the reigns of tsmc over to his longtime lieutenant. Rick cy he retires. He spent a couple of years. He's just chill. I don't know what he's easily. The loves literature is like reading all sorts of studies on second marriage to the credits. His second way for like really reinvigorating him and inspiring him. Then it's summer of two thousand nine by the way that's right around the time that people were starting to speculate that e. v. might work like a nitrous to this point into the bit science projects before quantum realize. Yep i well this is gonna make what happens even more sense. The financial crisis had happened in two thousand name and chaos everywhere. We've talked about it a lot on this show surprise press conference. Tsmc summer two thousand nine. They announce that morris returning to lead tsmc seo. Rick is out more coming back for the third act of his career. I don't even know what number he's wearing is not forty five because that was the second accident jordan. Easy beyond jordan at this point. It's coming back. He's going to see you again. At age seventy eight. Rick would actually have a second act himself. Do you know what rick is doing now. No rick is ceo mediatek of usc. so he's doing rick's doing great. But moore's comeback why moore's comeback but this is heralded as kind of a botched transition. Well there's a lot of stuff going like from morris to wreck people viewed it as like. You didn't really do a great job bringing in the next year the company. Maybe i don't know enough to say okay. I i think maybe but also there's a lot going on at this moment in time so the financial crisis. Yup that's like a crisis that's affecting everybody so that's one thing but the other things so in the press release there's quote from morris and he says one this move will not affect tsmc's fighting spirit and is likely to spur greater intensity but to. He says that he sees quote golden opportunities ahead. What are these golden opportunities that he's referring to two thousand nine mobile right smartphone. Two thousand seven in july. The iphone comes out two thousand eight. The iphone three g comes out with the app store for the first time the sdk all these developers building for it but of course an android comes out in two thousand eight. Yep apple had to this point. While building this operating system the scale down version of os ten it's unix but they weren't designing their own chip stages used on off the shelf. Samsung chip they got it right with saying. Hey we gotta use arm in these things because a really low power device so they've done actual god's work and magic to be able to bring a pc eighty-six operating system created sub operating system. You're in your hand totally that runs on arm like a miracle but of course it's an off the shelf samsung processor totally. Well even. That's great for tsmc lake indulge. Not making that okay. So that's one. We can talk more about sick but we should say samsung also fab did ca-. Samsung is both chip designer and day. But the point is on mobile. The previous whole paradigm of computing and selling and everything was pc was like steph plugged into a wall was intel x eighty six and legally eh. Tsmc could now access some of that because amd went fabulous but like come on but now all of the leading companies that are gonna make silicon for design so are armed companies qualcomm bronco mediatek apple. Like who all are fabulous all our fabulous okay. So that's a big. And guess who knows all of those people morris and we should say to two thousand nine hundred interesting tipping point. Because if you'll remember back to the two thousand and seven introduction of the iphone steve. Jobs has a slide where he says they're hope their goal is to get one percent of the existing smartphone market apple had no notion the google had no notion of how big smartphones were about to become in two thousand and nine. We're starting to see. I think the iphone four came out. We're starting to see a ton of different. Oem's making android phones. You're moving into this era where everyone's looking at each other going. Oh this might actually be the next computing. Yeah well those. Half of the next competing paradigms remember bat. And this is when i started in. Vc there were two waves that like everybody was talking on social mobile. And then all consumer you know shifting to on the consumer side everything shifting to mobile. That was what he would bring your own device. Well sorta you're on the right track. What happened in the enterprise the cloud that cloud right so you've got mobile and got cloud and it's like so simplistic but like that. Those are the two things that drove trillions of dollars market cap over the next decade. What the cloud. So i the cloud is good for intel. X86 you're putting cpu's in the cloud amazon's by of through the clouds. The best thing that ever happened for intel incredible server architecture. It was the best thing that ever happened. Until but as the cloud progressed and computing workloads progress the cpo became a lot less important. Like what's started becoming a thing. Cpi like yeah. Maybe maybe need. Some of that will use intel. Maybe you'll use arm like whatever but like what really matters well. The majority of cloud workloads are still on. Cpi a find fun. But you're right future looking. Why is nvidia now. Four hundred three hundred four and billion dollar market cap company. It's not because the playstation and it's bigger than intel right and videos to x. intel's market cap. Something like that yet. You're cloud they notion of chips. That are really good at paralyzed. Processing which is gp us and matrix. Multiplication effectively vector. Math diverse is the cpu which are sort of these general purpose workhorses built for the operating system that runs on your computer super good for cereal. Of course there's like multi corp you know they're sixty four corers on a cpu now so that are good girls ation too but like all this stuff especially and initiate learning gp and specialized like tesla doj stuff. That's not x eighty six. Oh yeah we're in this. I mean the other thing. That foundries enabled the fabulous era. Enabled is the custom chip like everybody's building custom chips for all sorts of things. Yup so the chew big golden opportunities that are coming online and morris's like i got this when we should say we should clarify too. I think tesla uses samsung. Oh interesting not. emc earliest for part of it. And i think they actually even fab their chips in austin in the us really. Yeah so that's gonna laugh. This is like the beginning of the like when everyone sort of hoping for in the. Us returned to american manufacturing of chips. They're going to have to go to. Tsmc though in the next generation. 'cause like you want three nanometer it depends it depends what the workloads are in asia. So what depends what you need well anyway. Point intel's dominance is over and the index on all. That's going to take over as tsmc yup and morris ryan back in. He comes in he gets. These deals done so like the apple deal. Twenty twelve morris chang seventy eighty years old like and i think the apple wrapped on. That was jeff williams. The classic. tim cook tim cook. That's right. I think there was something where it was even like one win over to the other's house for dinner or something and it was like a living room conversation to deal for. Hey we bought this company semi we've been designing our own chip architecture and house. we're gonna launch. I think it was the a four. Yeah that was the first one and it was apple. Basically saying we think a lot of people are going to buy a lot of iphones in the future and we are competing to head with samsung. Because they're a company that is not clear on strategy they have consumer angle here with the galaxy phones. They think they're also kind of foundry which we jobs. Heated samsung famously. What did he he called. He called them some derogatory term Well there's been a few interesting things. There was steve jobs saying he was going to. Wage thermonuclear war. That was on google. Or i think that was but he had some like oh samsung. They're just like coffee like something that like. Really put them like it was about the lawsuits. It was like when they kept stealing apples like designs. Yeah and then there was something else where someone this is later but tim cook. Read the quote on stage about being a toxic hell. Stu doesn't get any better than that. No but bloomberg reported that it was a really big risk for both companies. Both apple apple is relying on a company that was then seen as an also ran and the quotas. If we were to bet. I think the sexually jeff williams if we were to bet heavily on. Emc there would be no backup plan and for tsmc. It meant an initial investment of nine billion dollars. Fabs are expensive to build and voting six thousand employees to building a dedicated plan for apple in just eleven months. It took several years before it even began producing the chips. So that was in twenty ten. And then i think twenty twelve was the launch of the four designed by apple built on the pa semi acquisition. And of course fab by tsmc. And i think it wasn't until the iphone six which was what twenty fourteen thousand thirteen. Something like that that they were solely. Tsmc i think so. And that was like the huge hip product his member. The six was when they first increased the screen size and those things flew off the shelves. Like i'm pretty sure some iphone had samsung fab. Yeah a fours and fives in them and some had dmc fab one. But i think by the six which was apple is all all. Iphones were huge winners. But i think the sex was like mega mega winner. And i think that was all tsmc huh. Nine billion in manufacturing capacity just for a deal with one company paid off. That was a bet the farm deal and kind of like something. Only morris could totally really speaks to founder gravitas even if he had no outer no equity that even by so after getting that deal down in two thousand thirteen more steps down see again but he stays on his chairman and finally once like it all plays out and tsmc's on top. In june of two thousand eighteen morris retires presumably for real. he even step down from. The chairman retires from chairman. And he's eighty six. Oh my god crazy. How does twenty team. So i mean let's talk about now. So twenty twenty. Tsmc related to this operating profit of twenty billion dollars on forty eight billion dollars of revenue. They took seventeen of the twenty billion dollars in operating profit and plotted all back into cap x last year in twenty twenty beginning of this year. January twenty twenty one. They give guidance that they will raise cap ex from seventeen last year in twenty twenty two twenty five to twenty eight billion in twenty twenty one in april of this year. Twenty twenty one. They raised it again to thirty billion forecast for the year and a hundred billion over the next three years. And this is when like. That's like the real shot across the bow. They'll everybody wakes up. The financial markets wake up like holy crap. Tsmc has cornered the market. 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It is just such a joy to have them as a partner and frankly like we have just been using their data for acquired ever. and so. it's so cool. As i drink here from my my pitchbook water receptacle nice. I know you know we're talking about all the enabling technologies that have an ad waves that have enabled tsmc. I think personally acquired has really in terms of quality of the show really hit inflection point last few months and i think you could trace that to the use of pitchbook data. I think you can too well listeners. We have a special offer and for all of the season. You can explore their database firsthand. And you get a limited access program which includes free access to the large database of private market intel for two whole weeks so you can monkey around in this crazy. Crazy forest of information to sign up visit pitchbook dot com slash acquired or. Click the lincoln the show notes to see how pitchbook can help you so more on today david. Tsmc today well okay. So speaking of data. I think this is the data point. They're released kinda says everything. So since the first ipo in taiwan in nineteen ninety-four tsmc has had compound annual revenue growth of seventeen point four percent for twenty seven years revenue growth. Seventeen point four percent compounded for twenty seven years now the irr equivalent evaluation on market cap. So it was four billion market cap and the taiwan. Ipo in nineteen ninety-four. Today is five hundred fifty billion so that is a twenty like nineteen point nine percent. Irr starting from four billion dollar base over the last twenty seven years so twenty percent irr over twenty seven years incredible by any means starting from four billion dollar base. It is now the ninth. At currently as we record the ninth most valuable company in the world and i think other than saudi aramco. It is the only company in the top ten that we haven't done acquired who interesting as yet. The oil companies are not sta other than the. Us oil companies are no longer act. In the top ten berkshire foreshadowing future episodes. I mean they're they're in hallowed grounds at this point the other thing. That just talking about financials today so crazy that they grew thirty one percent in revenue from twenty one thousand nine hundred twenty twenty there. They doubled their kager from two thousand nine hundred twenty twenty. Yeah it's not talk about accelerating growth there. In twenty twenty there are adjusted. Net income was seventeen billion dollars. How are they gonna go spend a hundred billion over three years. Is that gonna be out of prophets of each of those years or do you think they're doing some kind of financing. I don't know. I don't actually know if they've done any financing. I'm quite confident. They'll make enough profit to fund it organically because big news just in the past week. They started this loyal india but now that really they're getting away from morris's second big innovation of the reducing prices using prices. In fact i think they're gonna raise raise here by twenty percent so the first announcement a couple months ago was they're not gonna cut prices and then they just announced they're going to raise prices. Nobody's ever done this. Since the pre morris days pricing power in action totally i mean would a clearer picture of how they have taken a commodity business and turned it into this has got to be one of the biggest moats of all time totally. I mean they've got twenty eight billion of cash and cash equivalents on the balance sheet and they are gonna use that an all the cash that they generate from their operations to plow directly back into making sure that everybody else is five plus years behind unbelievable. The other thing is that they already are the largest they have over fifty percent of the market for foundries like for all contract manufacturing of chips and lake ninety five plus percent of the prophet correct. I thought where you're going with that. It is also true that they have ninety percent market share on the current generation. Like the leading edge yahtzee in the in the five nanometer. Samsung has like five ten percent marketshare. Tsmc has ninety plus percent in many ways owing two hundred there the apple of semiconductors. They don't have all the market share but they have all the most profitable market share. Yeah exactly. That's they are the iphone of semiconductors like you can still buy previous generation. You know worst technology from the for plenty of you know on the odd lots podcast. This was actually they talked about swirling the bear case going forward for tsmc in one potential one is that oh well the processing power is so good that like you're not going to need the leading edge anymore. I find that are really weak argument like you always need the leading edge lake. You think tesla doesn't want the leading. Ed totally you think. Apple doesn't want the leading edge. Software will always match the complexity on the most advance hardware can run on total. Which is why. I love and people are like apple slowing down my computer. I'm like yes. I'm sure that's what's happening. They wrote special code that they're putting on there to make the consumer. No it's it's because every piece of software just always assumes that it has the most advanced processor on earth than always gets to developers. Sure they test on two and three year old equipment but no one's making sure that the six and seven year old laptops are as performance software designed for the current generation of hardware. Google and amazon are going to be like now. We're good right. Hell no it actually is worth touching on this one other interesting about this five nanometer process which first of all is a marketing name at this point it what it used her originally referred to was the length on the gate on the transistor at this point. It's not exactly five nanometers and the additional performance is not going to come from you know making the smaller gates. Here's the interesting thing though. You actually can't put these transistors much closer to each other. So if you think about silicon atoms that are between the transistor's you can only fit five of them in a nanometer so in a three nanometer process. Sure right like at some point you cannot subdivide silicon anymore so either we need to change the substrate or the innovations are gonna come from elsewhere. Yeah yeah which has always been the case like moore's law was technically doubling of the number of transistors on an integrated circuit. Now it comes from multi-core comes from all the other advancements of figuring out how to make chips do more stuff faster. Yup that i think is going to keep going. And i think it's gonna keep being expensive and getting more expensive and i think. Tsmc is the only company that's going to be able to keep up at the leading edge. Yeah do you know david about more second law. Who no i don't so everyone knows about moore's law but there's the second one which is also known as rocks law after arthur yeah. Og it states that the cost of a semiconductor chip fabrication plant doubles every four years So with fabs today costing fifteen twenty billion dollars. I don't know that that's proven exactly true but it certain will shoot if we just look at. Tsmc's cap ex forecasting. They're going from seventeen to thirty to sixty over two years. So it's way faster than four years so the interesting thing is when you combine these two things the moore's law and more second law. It implies that the leading company that most profitable company will become the monopoly winner-take-all there you go and it's fascinating that both of these things. These laws aren't actually in conflict because moore's law is about effectively when you really look at it from a financial perspective operating expenses when producing at scale and rocks law is about the upfront capital expenditures to enable all that production. So it's everything we talk about on the show. It's being able to pile. Investment into fixed cost as much as possible at huge scale in order to realize the benefits of making as many of the thing as humanly possible at global scale and tsmc. Interestingly is the most perfect example of this. And i say interestingly because we almost always talk about operating leverage and scale in the context of soft- software internet this is how venture capital started because actually manufacturing chips the operating leverage that comes from huge amount of fixed costs into foundries to make chips and then hopefully be very profitable fifty percent gross margin on those chips venture capital financing was built for that for semiconductors and it just so happened to work just as well or even better with software on the internet even better in the notion that gross margins of software could be eighty to ninety percent not fifty percent. But i would back that down. Because it doesn't have the sort of moat defensibility characteristics that being able to plow your cop bax into manufacturing capability. Does yeah so we do power absolutely. Let's do it. Let's do it so for folks new to the show. This is one of the discussion topics do for every episode is we got through. Hamilton hellmers. excellent seven hours. The best business theory book told with at hamilton on the show. He's amazing. go read the book. You haven't yeah dentist. Seven powers essentially sources of defensibility being which he defines as long-term differential profit margins versus your competitors as we've been talking about on the whole show. Yep the seven that he identifies are counter positioning scale economies switching costs network economies process power branding and cornered resources and we almost always talk about network economies. We talk about countering positioning on this show. Sometimes we talked about brands. You talk about brandon. We're talking about none of those this time. Yeah we sometimes talk about scale economies which can definitely talk about here. But i think we're going to have our first process power if forecast but let's start. Let's go down the list count positioning they. I mean like maybe you when they were starting and in particular would the incumbents have started with the exact business no because their profit centre was the integration. That all the merging you get of integrating designing manufacturing and by saying nope. We're going to be a pure play manufacturer. Tmc theoretically was saying no. We're gonna take less gross margin and we're just gonna make up in volume. I'm actually not sure it played out that way. They have more. I don't know what do you know. What intel's gross margins are actually don't know I would suspect their higher. But i don't know right. Yeah i actually yeah. There was counter protesting here. I don't think i said this when we were going through it but before. Tsmc and pure play foundry model. If you were either a fabulous company one of the very very few or you were another idea and you were trying to get some excess capacity you rent it from another idea moseley. Ibm's okay you strong arm them. You've got a great strategic relationship. They'll give you some capacity but they also demanded the right to market your products under their brand to So like i would obviously. Tmc wasn't going to so yeah. There was counter positioning idioms of the way they were going to do when. Tsmc was going to do right okay. Scale economies that is the biggest. It's one of the top two with process power young in my opinion switching costs. Well it's funny now. There are huge switching. You can't switch off dmc no unless you're gonna stop being on the leading edge if you're going to change from being a phone company to an automotive company you can switch off them well. I think it's even deeper than that again. We haven't gone listeners. Probably think we've gone deep. Technically on this episode. We haven't even scratched the surf totally. But yes if you want the leading edge now you gotta be tsmc but you gotta be so integrated with tsmc you. This saying you wanna switch to global foundries or one of the other competitors out there which there are few. You can't just call up global foundries and be like hey important over. Expect my business on monday right years. Yes you're so deeply integrated with the process. Yeah so yeah. Big switching costs network economies. It's not really worth talking about. Not in the traditional sense facebook here and certainly none of tsmc's customers really benefit from other customers being on it. No i do think there actually is. I don't think captures this in his seven powers and i don't know if he would consider this one but there is like an ecosystem aspect here because the em companies and the these are so deeply integrated with tsmc. If you wanna be using arm for instance or you know. They're kind of the best integrated with now. I don't think that's network economies. That is kind of like this ecosystem thing. Tsmc actually has a name for this. They call it like the open innovation something or other You know some corporate name but like it. It means this. I do wonder if it's actually worse for a lot of people. That apple is a tsmc customer because who else has access to the five nanometer process. Right now they're gonna take as much as they drain. Yeah good point process power. Yes i think one pixar. This is the first time we've really although we weren't doing seven powers during yeah to me. This is the clearest example. I could ever imagine a process power. It takes all forty years of tsmc's history to have arrived at where they are today and even if ten people left and tried to start the next emc to be able to create what they've created at this point from scratch virtually all of their ip. All of their you know people all of their know-how of their relationships with snl in the lake. No money can replicate it. I think the only thing that will unseat. Tsmc is a complete paradigm shift. Something where like what. Mobil did the desktop. If there's something where the required in the future is unable to be provided by anything that tsmc is good at today if all the crazy laser molten. Snl stuff we were talking about. If all of a sudden there's discovered a new either different ways cheaper way you quantum computing. Yeah way to do this then. That kind of could reset the playing field. Yeah yeah totally. But even little shifts. I bet they'd be fine if they if everyone figured out that like hey silicones not the best substrate and we can figure out a better substrate if they were like an aws moment of funny tsmc is the aws and but like where Something happened that just made a wheat cheaper than it used to be. You could now get access to the technology and the know-how orders of magnitude cheaper than it is now that would take away a big part of their power. But i don't see that happening absent. A paradigm shift is. Tsmc's lose their pretty much there in the groove. So i think we should skip branding and corner resource for now like i. Just don't. it's not really worth talking. Louis there an antithetical to branding like yeah. That's the key. It's apple's brand. It's not rising. So how do you define. So this is i think it's a good time to enter our geopolitics discussion. Because i was thinking about the other way that tsmc could fail would be that china decides. The moment is right to go in a sirdar force and take over taiwan depending on how you see it either. Annexed taiwan or asserted serve as always claimed sovereignty. yes actually start enforcing has been right the whole time. I think as they would sort of say if anything in my casual toned in english from america than doing all this business with the west. I have to imagine that assuming that it didn't start a full war like an actual world war which then of course they would start using all the tsmc manufacturing capacity for all the chinese and always been at least doesn't currently cut off. Yeah so how do you capture that in power. What is the power or maybe like risk. That's like a bear right. Let's not get too specific on this. But maybe in a general sense how do you capture the power. That company has that comes from regulatory environment. Where would that get classified under. Felt like they. They have a lot of room to be operating safely Maybe cornered resource. I guess you're saying this is like an anti power for this right exactly exactly. Yeah i suppose all that matters is things that you have that your direct competitors. Don't so i in this strange straw man that i'm putting together. It would really be about what if you were located in a country that none of your competitors were also domiciled and being there gave you some special ability to be more profitable than others which they had in the beginning with the government in taiwan basically the mafia boss was like this is happening. And we're gonna make that. We're going to strong arm. Everybody mc l. business leaders in the country to investing in this. We're gonna make sure that this you know happens okay. Well let's put a pin in that because you're right it turns out that it's actually not a perfect power discussion but the geopolitics thing is interesting. Well i think it's the bear case for right that to me. Absent enormous computing paradigm. Shift is the way that. Tsmc has an enormous risk in the business. Yep totally would does make a kinda surprising that you know. They haven't diversified their geographical operations very much. So this is interesting. So they're facing a lot of pressure for this are spending. i think. Twelve billion dollars this year to start a plant in arizona which will not be the three nanometer. I don't even think it'll be the five nanometer. It's not their most advanced manufacturing. I think the us subsidizing in a big way. I think that's part of the biden administrations most recent bill to try and bring some semiconductor manufacturing here but they're also starting a fab in japan. That came out in their last earnings call. So they're doing some and they have operations in china too. Yep they're doing some diversification. But i don't think it's for this reason i think it's because they're basically getting free money to open fabs and other places and morris has even made comments like i don't think it makes any business sense for us to have the leading edge in those countries even though those countries want us to have them there. I think it makes sense based on the ecosystem that we've created and taiwan to keep operating it here so the question is if it directly helps. Let's take the us for example. The us's prowess as a semiconductor manufacturing force in the world to have tsmc's arizona plant or if it's really just indirect and the ideas like let's try this as a first stab will get more people in the us familiar with doing this again. In case we need to restore this. Yes yeah really. The i mean. This is a scary scary future to contemplate and hope that it doesn't happen but really the thought exercise. Here's what would happen if china annexes. Yes taiwan tomorrow which is scary for a number of reasons. The smallest of which is this corporate takeover. It's scary for a lot of people that our lives. Yes i wouldn't say. It's the small lake everything right like imagine if we didn't have access semiconductors anymore to leading semiconductor semiconductors like. Yeah that's everything. What part of our lives do not run on right. Semi can't make fifties right now. It'd be like if you know like basically all of our technological progress would stop. Yeah you're right. So i think the question isn't i know enough to answer this. What would happen right like would it be possible to airlift the process power. That tsmc has physically out of taiwan to somewhere else. You get all the people. Snl now sends the stuff somewhere else. Carelift lift everybody out. there's an evacuation. Does the process power come with it or not mark. I don't know that's a good question. I mean if the toyota production system is an example wherein toyota tried to there was in that factory choice adventure with gm yet. The new me plant. That's now the tesla plan on with toyota trying to replicate their process. Somewhere else. didn't work now. it wasn't under threat of war. I this would need to. It's actually a good question if you think about like the. Us is sort of strategic defensive weaknesses. What's more important having onshore semiconductor capability to continue to advanced technology. In the nation or boeing like our ability to build which we've always held up as this example of the. Us needs that to stay. Us own to stay operating. Stay profitable stay prosperous because it is a matter of the. Us way of life that were able to protect doing need. Semiconductors a great point so we're now outside our depth but is it actually more important to have cutting edge semiconductor capability here then airplanes or any other sort of defense supply chain. And you know maybe the answer here is like it's like current situation exists in korea with sam riley north korea's right there. You know i've been there. I've been to north korea. Like i went to the dmz. It's so weird. It's like an amusement park weird. It's super super weird and bizarre. But yeah north korea's right there you know maybe it's the same like china's right there but this isn't actually going to happen but like i don't know it feels in the last year like the risk of it actually happening has ratcheted up quite a bit. I think so. I mean it's like globalization as a whole is in the best interest of everyone to continue to share resources to continue to entangle everything until somebody decides that it's not and then we have a big problem and hopefully for lots of reasons it just continues to be okay. That tsmc is located on an island that is of disputed claim. Maybe the best. Which is the end of the episode. So we lean indulge air. Weirdness here Maybe the best thing that could happen is My car route awhile. Back was the book by the harvard chair. The harvard phys ed department about 'em who visited the that he postulates is a wasn't alien spaceship. Maybe if we discover that aliens are real. That's the bad lights. Could you beat the uniting force. All these conflicts seem pretty petty. Yeah i wouldn't use that as an investment. No okay before we get into playbook and just hit some things that i think. We missed during the narrative or at least put a fine enough point on in the narrative. Have a what would have happened. Otherwise that i head. We haven't done this in a while. No we haven't so. And i'll just read this as a direct quote from bloomberg and there was some awesome sources for this episode all of which are linked in the show notes in the mid two thousands as apple inc was preparing for the release of its new smartphone. Steve jobs approached then. Ceo of intel oughta leany about providing that chips for the iphone intel already sold iphone the processors that ran on. Its max but jobs acquired so that everybody can see the look on my face right now like literally a gallic fists in the air so happy and remember otto leaney was the guy that jobs brought out on stage during the intel transition during the power. Pc to say this. Could you know this is the future. This is the partnership so okay but jobs made. What ali considered a low ball offer. An apple awarded the contract to samsung. It later began designing the chips. Itself eventually outsource production at emc contract manufacturer in taiwan. That'd been five blah blah blah blah blah. So what could have been apple intel and said. Do you want this contract. Because they were partners on the back totally and apparently it was less about the the fact that i'm sorry you wanna use arm what no company and it was more about. We felt it was a low ball offer biggest strategic error of all time. I don't have postulated playbook team performed as poss- more than a playbook team that what's the union geometry. There's like the laws the way that approved. But then there's like pasta. It's that you can't prove them. But like our fundamental understanding of the universe doesn't work if they don't work whatever that is axioms. whatever. I'm going put one of those out there. Please never make strategic decisions based on economics This is prime example. Like the number of and we talk about this all the time on this show lake. Vc's passing overvaluation on something app andrea getting cold feet about a three hundred million dollars. Evaluation on uber. Yep right this intel move passing on many on partnering with apple and maybe more specifically than economics because like you could imagine that you would wanna pass on this if intel. Dan kennedy the upside from the deal. Assuming that the structure is right then passing because a number is too low in the structure or ford motor company. Not hiring chang over one dollar you know like whatever like it's just like humans are so prone to cutting off their noses despite the spaces so we already have the rosenthal doctrine of never been bet against the internet but now we have the rosenthal postulate which has never make strategic decisions based on pricing on price not economics but pricing. I like it. I ate at a new section of the acquired website. Ra all right next on. Playbook is another one on intel fading so it takes a very long time to become irrelevant so despite intel's of stock price being i think. Tsmc's like two and a half x. intel stock price as a matter of fact aml is actually larger than intel by market cap. Now they are the sole source provider of one thing in the value chain to mostly one company and they're bigger than intel fascinated okay so public markets investors. Who are listening. She does a demon slack or post in general acquired Acquired whatever channel works for you or twitter. Whatever basuki curious how you are if you are long this these aesthetic sorta laying out on the show. How you playing at between tsmc and asl which is now europe's most valuable company right. I mean probably just invest in both but like what are you what is like how do you think about that right and what's the like Up and comer. That's kind of speculative at this point but could be on another puzzle piece here. Are you also shorting intel through all like what are you. What do you do here all right. So my point on intel as it takes a long time to become a relevant. They still control eighty percent of the computer processor market and they have an even bigger share in servers. So like despite everything we're saying still huge workloads running on cpu's that are in computers and on the cloud pretty big business. Yeah the majority of workloads they're happening in the cloud is not tesla dojo. It's you know. I don't know some company. That's not tech company somewhere in in the world running their outlook server on office three sixty five at doesn't heed five nanometer process to other intel things. One is the indecision has been very tough on the company bob swan who was the former. Ceo started to prepare to outsource manufacturing of intel designed chips to tsmc. Two years ago. This was like the plan. They finally decided thrown in the towel. Ship manufacturing company in the world but real men sensitive talk about their feelings bob swan. It's no longer the ceo of intel. And now a complete reversal their new. Ceo pat gelsinger wants to turn intel into a foundry themselves by which other fabulous companies can contract with intel to build. Maybe that's right but if so they gotta figure out. And i think they're thinking about this the right way. 'cause they said it's going to be a fully separate autonomous division. They gotta run that like a completely separate independent company of the rest. Of until. And if so i don't actually know why until owns it. I mean well let's look at. Amd here right. They did this. They spun out there manufacturing into global foundries. Which has been good for global foundries and md found getting ready to ipo. yup yup yup so like well. Yeah there's probably rate strategic decision but it's not going so well i mean like it's going fast. Tsmc it's going better. Probably than if they had not done that but it wasn't there not a winner here like. Tsmc is winner. Yeah i guess. The the playbook theme there is indecision paralyzing company has spun its wheels one direction. Or the other and all it's done is make itself deeper in the mud I just looked up. I was trying to remember this guy. Gelsinger was the vm-ware ceo. He started his career at intel and then went. Emc and then emc owned the majority of the land came the vm-ware. Yeah and He was the outside candidate to replace bomber as microsoft ca. Yup yup yup. I hear he's really revered in the organization that people think he is really gonna make some good change there. We'll see the last thing on intel and it's funny. This is not the episode. But there's a thing that happened here. That is very similar to the fact that kodak developed the digital camera. I in their lab. They knew it they they knew this was the future and they didn't commercialize it. Because it's impossible to counter position yourself because of the innovators dilemma intel actually saw extreme uv lithograph uv. I so intel was the biggest early investor uv committing more than four billion to twenty twelve. Whoa it was slower than its main rivals and this is from the wall street journal in adopting the technology and skeptical about whether it would work eventually until calculated that it was a sure bet to try and improve existing ways of handling lithography. And of course where we are today. You've completely enabled. The next generation of chips to be built that agreements couldn't argument and example. For why you need start ups right right. Well he totally yeah intel was there they invested in it. They saw it and they're like they put billion and i think even to this day there is not a shipping until chip that was manufactured by intel using uv. Wow that's crazy you're right. It is the most perfect pure example of the innovators dilemma and action by need startups. Yup we're gonna talk about that on our next series on acquired. Wait a bit that we've been doing a lot this season but y'all to come all right. My next one is that if you're only looking at the outcomes that happened you cannot reverse engineer. What the probability that will happen is and this is our very abstract way of me saying the strategy of if you build they will come that. Morris implemented is a bad strategy and it also worked right if ballantyne hated they would never invest in developing market that was like rule number one like we invest in the market already exists. Not when we need to develop it and this is like the classic problem. This is the knock up here in seattle. There's a lot of people spinning out of microsoft's starting companies. Classically people coming into microsoft would always wanna build platforms because microsoft was the platform company. And they would always have a small too small and understanding of the market of people that wanted that platform today and they assumed if you build it they will come. Morris was that exact problem and yet if something is going to be true. Ten percent of the time and fail ninety percent of the time one at a ten times. It's going to work and it may have been the case. So i guess what i'm saying here is if you're starting to start up. It's impossible to know if this was actually a good strategy or if it was a bad strategy that probabilistically just happened to work. I mean this is the thing that starts his like. There are all these rules right but like they can all be broken. There is no formula. Yep totally all right other playbook themes i just have one more that again. We talked about a bunch of the episode. But i wanna to highlight and actually had one spin on here talked about it all the way back in the beginning in the the pilot sponsorship you know the jeff bezos quote about aws as a startup. Anything that doesn't make your beer tastes better. The analogy back to german beer. Factories and outsourcing electricity generation outsource. Things aren't your competency right. Focus on what makes the beer beer whatever that is proverbially tastes better and everything that is not that like finance and accounting outsource to pilot etcetera double underscore that but this is obvious so obvious but obviously bays us didn't say it directly and thus. I think we don't highlighted enough. The counterpoint to that is anytime you see something that is like people are lots of people lots of companies are doing. that is not making. Their beer tastes better. That is a massive opportunity. Go build a platform company. That is how you build a platform company. So you're saying if. I was in germany hundreds of years ago and i'm going burrito brewery and seeing that they all generate their own power. I should start a power company. I'm saying if you're with semen. Jessica you've gone to start ups and you did all the finance and accounting yourself for both of them and you're like wait a minute. This is not making our beer. Tastes better and wait a minute. 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Make and You can sign up at nor vpn dot com slash acquired by clicking lincoln. Show notes or use the code acquired at checkout so cool thank you lord grading all right so we were thinking for grading. What can we grade like. I dunno taiwan's decision to do this owned fifty percent of the company. Whatever like you know Able ac- you know not not interesting so we had that though thought experimental try this for this episode rather than like letter grading this war. Ask a question where does tsmc belong. In the pantheon of great technology companies of all time is it. Fang level is at like top. Five is a top ten. Is it like top. Twenty like weary is this. What is the right context in which we should be placing. Tsmc this whole story. The company the power. All of it so interesting because it really does raise this question value chain. We talked about the like five part value chain that exists today for making chips and so it's interesting because you could sort of say well. It belongs wherever intel belonged circa two thousand or you could say well the set of products that emc manufacturers have a hundred x the scale that intel in circa two thousand had. Like if you think about it all this stuff that everyone's all excited about every time someone talks about the next wave of computing and they're like machine learning or they're like crypto or they're like five g. or they're like anything they tell you is something. Tsmc makes that enables at all when marc andreessen says software is eating the world to lean the world because tsmc has made it so freaking. Cheap to manufacture silicon. And then you can run whatever you want on that silicon. And it's the cost of compute asymptotically approach zero because tsmc tsmc tsmc. So how much do we ascribe to them versus. Snl how much do we ascribe to them versus the entire landscape of talented chip designers out there including the six hundred chip designers at apple working on the apple. Silicon is hard to ambiguous that so where does it belong. I mean it's probably the most successful an important beat a be hardware company of all time. I think we can safely say at this point. It's surpasses intel. I mean gosh right like that's a big statement to say really can tell silicon valley the trader say like all of it moore's law but in compounding all the values shows up at the end so it is true that the value that tsmc will create in the world over the next year or two years three years probably more than the entire silicon industry leading up to this point combined. I mean hell. They grew thirty percent last year at like an already unimaginable scale. Like intel's not doing that right. Okay i think we can say it's above intel. I probably wouldn't say. It is above facebook amazon apple microsoft google in terms of value creation in the world. I mean devil's advocate. You could argue that. None of the innovative things. Those companies are doing now happens without tsmc. Yeah unless the foundry model and the fabulous model was inevitable. Yes maybe somebody else would have done it. Yeah maybe but they didn't didn't. I did i mean that's the thing that i really dispeat- me over the head in this episode. We've probably beaten all of you the head at least i have is You know look. There's the geopolitical risk with being in taiwan other than that. I don't know that there is a stronger. Moat that any company has in the entire world then. Tsmc compared to all the fang companies microsoft like those are very very strong votes. But like we've seen all of those you know. They've changed their new companies they've emerged. They've like microsoft fell and the now it came back with new strategy in lake facebook. Not that old google's not that old tsmc's impenetrable. Yeah there yeah. Their business model and the cost required compete are such that they have. It's like bulletproof. It's everything but bulletproof. Yeah toad sadly say yes. Yeah so. I don't know maybe we're exaggerating so deep in it. We always. We always go native on these episodes right the only way it could be more valuable as if the company had an army. It's like people talk about the. Us dollar is backed up by the full faith of the us government which implies guns yup and so it's only because everybody's currently playing by the rules that any business gets to stay in business and so this one just happened to be a little bit more at risk than other ones when it comes to. That aren't so. I think we can safely say top two and i think the question is is the top five well. Defendable is interesting question. So in thirty years we'll tsmc be a huge company. Well they've got this dynamic going right now with this flywheel will structurally. Nobody can catch them. Something unforeseen has to change but something unforeseen will change because it always right right right. Yes yes true. Who's had the most dynamic in the past standard oil either. Been successful or unsuccessful. Good one cough foreshadowing. I mean that's kind of what that is. It's very different style but same sort of dynamic with standard oil right was like they crowded like structurally how they were set up. And we'll talk more about this later. Nobody else could compete. Ritz kept getting richer and they kind of still exists. That's the best. That is the best part of the still exist. Yeah all right. i'm with you. i'll go top ten but probably not top five. Yeah it is. I mean like when i'm wrestling with how much of it is just like marketing marketing in a bad way but like intentionally. Tsmc rides under the radar. Like they intentionally have no brand right. Brand is the customers. They want the customers to succeed. So we don't hear all the time about them like we do the fan companies. Yeah we will start to. I think anybody who tunes into this episode probably saw the name of episode and then thought I should tune into that. Because i've seen more about this thing. We didn't know about kind of like we did do this episode. It's finally time. Yeah yeah all right well. That's where i wanna leave it with grading all right. So i'll i'll put a out. I'm gonna say i think i'm with you top ten not top-five yet but you know. Maybe we need to revisit this. I will definitely say it's the most successful beat be hardware company ever and the question is is that the most successful beat a b. company ever had say it's probably just competing with microsoft there. I mean and again maybe even like across all industries right located. I mean shoot. Semiconductors run everything. Yeah and they run. Semiconductors semiconductors are the new oil david. Okay okay enough enough we gotta we gotta bring this one home carve-outs out. Let's do it. I've got to jenny. And i were just down in santa barbara for a couple of weeks rented airbnb down there. I was so great. We did that last year. 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"The. Financial Empire. Hello Welcome. To the first episode of Good Morning Forty Niner Empire today is September fourteen, twenty twenty and let's get into some forty niner news. Today's forty niner news. The forty niners had a hard loss in week one to division. Where will the Arizona Cardinals? The Forty niners lost twenty four to twenty quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo struggled majorly in this game he had problems. Connecting to his riders savers and he looked lost the entire game. The forty niners defend had major problems of cardinals quarterback Carla Murray newly acquired receiver three Hopkins Hopkins Smoke the defensive fourteen receptions and one hundred, fifty, one yards now on today's presser from head coach Pal Shanahan, he gives him injury update first deebo Samuel who was placed Nihar last week it had a minor setbacks. For Return Date to week four game against the Philadelphia Eagles that's hub depot can get healthy and he'll be able to play against the Eagles in return to the team also injured was star Tight End George biddle Kennel was hurt in Sunday's game against the cardinals in has officially been diagnosed with a knee sprain cliche in hand also said that he will evaluate on Wednesday and see his status for the game. This upcoming game against New York jets cut Shanahan. was also asked about free agent wide receiver. Muhammad to new and said that he would not rule out bringing new to the team since our wide receiver injuries are pretty bad in our. The at that position is very thin. Also said that he would would be surprised of rookie Brendan. I did not play in next week's game against the New York jets. So let's hope the idea is healthy in the he can make his start against the New York jets and hopefully give this offense the talent in need desperately there's also talk that the Fernandez ziggy. Ansah for workout onset has connection Surroi dealer in coach, and we will see how that turns out. So keep, we'll keep you posted for updates and that is it for all your main forty niner news updates. Please check out a revenge for radio DOT COM forward slash shop in tune in to the main show faithful radio show tomorrow at three PM Pacific. Standard Time. Thank you all and have an amazing day as always remain faithful.
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"The following program is sponsored by the national prayer chapel. Come oh every tune. Nihar two streams of mercy never sees cole. I saw oldest each Smoke and good safely to seize stray skew me she's here's the Welcome to pilgrim's progress. I'm ray greenleaf from the national prayer chapel. Today we come to pray and to hear. Jesus answers our phone number in studio that you can call to pray live on air. Eight seven seven five three four zero seven zero eight seven seven five three four zero seven eight zero brother. Drew is in studio right now. And he'll take your call and you can come live on the show and you can pray. Now i'd like to share with you just a short piece from the book. Holy spirit revivals by charles finney. It's the account of his coming to jesus and his praying and then we'll begin. Our time of prayer. During monday and tuesday my conviction increased but still seemed as if my heart grew harder i could not shed a tear. I could not pray. I had no opportunity to pray above a whisper and frequently. I felt that i would find relief in prayer. If i could just be alone where i could use my voice and express myself. I was shy and avoided speaking to anyone on this subject as much as i could. Because i didn't want to rouse suspicion. That i was seeking the salvation of my soul tuesday night. I became very nervous and in the night. A strange feeling came over me. As if i was about to die i knew that if i did die i would sink down to hell but i quieted myself. As best i could until morning at an early hour on wednesday i started for the office but just before i arrived at the office. Something seemed to confront me as if an inward voice said to me. What are you waiting for. Did you not promise to give your heart to god. What are you trying to do are you endeavouring to work out a righteousness of your own. At this point. The whole question of gospel salvation was to me in marvelous manner. I think then saw as clearly as i ever have in my life the reality and fullness of the atonement of jesus. I saw that his work as a finished work then instead of needing any righteousness of my own to recommend me too. God i had to submit myself to the righteousness of god through christ gospel. Salvation seemed to be an offer to be accepted something that was full and complete and all that was necessary on my part was to agree to give up my sin and accept christ instead of being thing to be brought about by my own works. Salvation was thing to be found entirely in the lord. Jesus christ who presented himself before me as my god and my savior without being distinctly aware of it. I stopped in the middle of the street. Were that inward voice. It first come upon me. How long remained in that position. I cannot say but after. I contemplated this distinct revelation for a while. The inner voice seemed to ask. Will you accept it now today. I replied yes. I will accept it today or i will die in the attempt. North of the village over a hill stretch of woods in which i used to walk almost daily when the weather was pleasant it was now the tenth of october and the time passed for my frequent walks there nevertheless instead of going to the office i turned and bent my course toward the woods feeling that i must be alone and away from all human is and near so that i could pour out my prayer to god still. My pride showed itself. As it went over the hill. It occurred to me that someone might see me and suppose that i was going away to prey yet. There was probably not a person on earth who would have suspected such a thing and he's seen me walking up that hill but so great was my pride and so much was i possessed with the fear of man that i soaked along the fence until i got so far out of sight that no one from the village could see me then made my way into the woods. Nearly a quarter of a mile when over on the other side of the hill and found a place where some large trees had fallen across each other leaving an open place between them. There i saw could make kind of a closet. I crept into this place. And i knelt down to pray as i turn to go up into the woods. I recollect having said i will give my heart to god or never. Will i come down from here. I recall repeating this as i went up. I will give my heart to go before. I ever come down. But when i attempted to pray i found that my heart would not pray ahead. Suppose that if only i could be where i could speak aloud without being overheard i would pray freely but when i tried. I was mute. I had nothing to say to god. Or at least i could say only a few words and those without heart in attempting to pray i would hear a rustling in the leaves and would stop and look up to see if somebody was coming. I did this several times. Finally i found myself sinking fast to despair. I said to myself. I cannot pray my heart is dead to god it will not prey then reproached myself or having promised to give my heart to god before. I left the woods when i tried. I found i could not give my heart to god my soul back. My heart was in no way going out to god. I began to feel deeply that it was too late for me that i was passed. Hope god must have given up on me then began to think my promise rash that i would give my heart to god that day or die in the attempt if seemed to me as if that were binding upon my soul and yet i was going to break my vow a great discouragment came over me and i felt almost two weeks to get up on my knees just at that moment again. Thought i heard someone approach me. And i opened my eyes to see whether it was so but just then it was distinctly shown to me that my pride was the great difficulty that stood in my way an overwhelming sense of my wickedness and being ashamed to have a human being. See me on my knees before. God took such powerful possession of me that i cried at the top of my voice and exclaimed that i would not leave the place if all the men on earth and all the devils and hell surrounded me what. I said such a disgrace. Such a degraded center. As i am on my knees confessing my sins to the great and holy. God how can i be ashamed to have any human being a sinner like myself. Find me on my knees eavesdropping to make my peace. With my offended god. Sin of pride appeared. Awful infinite growth may down before the lord was at that point. This passage of scripture seemed to drop into my mind. Then you will pray to me. And i will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart jeremiah. Twenty nine twelve and thirteen. Somehow i knew this was a passage of scripture though. I do not think i'd ever read it. I knew that it was in. God's word and god's voice that spoke to me. I instantly seized hold of this with my heart. I had intellectually believed the bible before. But never had i known that faith was a voluntary trust instead of an intellectual state. I was conscious of trusting at that moment. In god's veracity. I cried him. I take you at your word. You know that. I'm searching for you with all my heart and that i've come here to pray to you and you promise to hear me. I told the lord that i would take him at his word that i knew he could not lie that i was there for sure that he heard my prayer and that i would find him will. That's in holy spirit. Revivals charles finney. We've come to pray. You're welcome to call eight seven seven five three four zero seven eight zero. You're welcome to call impre lord. Jesus we come to pray for you to answer lord. My heart has been stirred all morning with tears for. I know that many today you even some listening right now lord. Their hearts are searching but they're filled with pride so much so they can even pray lord. I'm asking right now for those men in those women. Those boys girls whose hearts are desperate that you would give them the ability to pray that they would cry out to you and that you would hear them for. I know you are a god who answers our prayers. Thank you chasis. I pray in your holy name. Amen again the phone number is eight. Seven seven five three four zero seven eight zero. We have a caller welcome spray. Yes someone air. Yes yes you don't pass. I've been listening to you for quite a while. And i love the way preach and give everybody a chance to go to the law. And i'm just trying to pray right now and also a little bit of revelation through its prayer so he can guide me and thank you. Please pray if they're law in the name of our lord and savior. Jesus christ thank you for your love. Thank you for sending your only begotten son to favorites from all sins and thank you lord for staying with us even when we are sending. We've seen it i say yes. Although he's opened up these people's air so you can so they can hear what you have brought forth to meet to share with them and walk against you in other ways and right now just need help to further your word. It should have taught me. And if you will allow me to teach the pastor and the listeners that are listening and your name five not my glory lord. You're name for the namesake. Thank you so his his What the lord had given me He has so me his word down to a letters each and every letter because jesus christ city is going to prepare a place for us so what he did he came and gave his life and defeated the a of panam so therefore they knew a which is alphabet so now for so many years. And i've had it for so long and i'm trying to share it with so many people but i don't get no reaction so right now i'm just gonna share one single letter with with the house of god right now. Okay here we go when you look at a capital g you look at it carefully. You see a foot on top okay. So that's jesus when he's written because it's put his with an above and as you look at that very carefully you'll see occur now that curve represents christ from extra revelation which is mainly paul. So once you looking at that you're looking at a capital c. Attached to to a t. So now the foot on top of that. G is jesus when he and the curve is christ and the tea is for the fall. So the t represents truth which a father and you got the christ which is righteousness when you look at the g. looking at a c. n. a. t. and it becomes the city of god. Now jesus christ say if you see me you see my father. So when you're looking at the capital city itself that's-they me which is jesus christ and then the tea is my father so both the father and the son is in one letter to make the g. so when you're looking at g you're not looking at a pearl g anymore. You looking at a jeeze because you now see the capital c. And see the team so therefore they're two letters so now that g becomes curl for now you're looking at geez now you're looking at a jeez so now once you go to if these is one you hear that we the word is predestined so we are the world so once you put the geez with us. Now you have. Jesus so now. That's jesus when he comes back with the gentiles because in the beginning he came for the jews which started with a j. so now he's come back for the gentile. Why you have the letter. Jeez let ajay. I pray to god that you hear me and understand and hopefully the lord will bless your heart so you can understand and here it because right now just feel that. I'm compelled to do his work. Thank you so much in god. Bless you all thank. You have anything to say. I'll never look rather g in the same way again. You serve the truth though it is the truth. 'cause i know i've been having his work for many years and i just haven't had people to sit down and talk so when she looking at the g you're looking at a capital c. And you're looking at a t. The capital city is when jesus christ and the tea is father never separated because the c is sitting on the right side of the tea. So jesus christ is on the right side of his father sitting on the right side so anytime you look at g. at the c. Is coming from the right side of that t and now it's cruel. It's not a g. It's pearl. So if jesus and the us of the world you have to do is go to equations one and you hear everything concerning us and therefore what you put. Jeez and us together we have. Jesus yes praise the lord. Praise god thank you. I'm glad you're listening if anybody wants to take my number call me something. That'd be great. I just need some help right now and give us a number Can you hear me going on air. You're on air lives. change the world my number. Well hey my numbers out there. Okay to four zero four two six two eight four four be glad to give additional information because right now i need all the help and i'm i'm slipping them if they like. I'm back snow. Didn't and i don't want to power the hand of god to fight against me because it's not just me that i'm representing but a you know a lot of people in this world so i really wanna do is working. Let it get out there for a lot of centers that i've seen in can know that the glory the glory of the lord is less you. I'll be praying for you. It's our principal part. You're welcome by mr producer. Do we have another call good. We have another caller. we just lost the caller. Okay please okay. Would you all as we wait for this. Call remember this brother and pray for him. He said he's feeling like he's slipping. Serve god pray for him. Okay brother do we have a phone call and here hi welcome. Please pray kayla you bothering your will be done in our nation's and chris specifically for our churches and i think the Many who don't know us savior. And i pray that your gospel would be preached fully interests that create an understanding but they spent suffering from you because of sin and so should only through jesus and And i would realize they need per se that gospel would be preached across our nation and that it would cost humble themselves. Are you in say. I think the people that i've talked with who are bitter against you. They think that you're not loving. She's humble their heart. He glorified ice and they pay for their still be. Smoke an increase for those who Who have been saved. And then they've gone back to think this lyster Focused on things. And i pray that there would be revival. That would bring Christians to truly follow you their heart pretty for those who are settled in sin Maybe expensive within the went back then and they tried and failed to field over comment on. But they weren't trusting in your power inside cre- that you'd have missed know that you would break up on their just sense that you need them to fully trust employees surrender to you and there are many in my family. Pray for mercy on them. And i agree for revisal across our country. Yes priests were pretty that you would increase post-race ministry and that you would cause messages to further and peace for all who listen to his messages. This work and their hearts moved them closer to you. Anyone who hasn't humbled themselves before you for surveys that you bring conviction of sin and trust in your power to these days to listen to them. I pre- would be fully cleanse. And then they decide and increase for the fullness of your shit and also pretty for washington dc break the bondage of the enemy that you'd be glorified and thank you for getting promises and the three that you would their him again. Prepare us for the great awakening. But you're going to bring yes we would be fully clemson and prepared for your power this lead s we follow you in jesus name amen amen thank you sister if god bless you. God bless you k- our our phone number is eight seven seven five three four zero seven eight zero. You're welcome to call and pray mr producer. Do we have any calls coming in the phone. Lines are wide open. You're welcome to call now. Lord chases you are very clear with me this morning that there are many who claim your name and who are eager to participate in the things of of holiness but they find themselves slipping and sliding they find themselves sitting against you. Their conscience is guilt stricken. They have not yet entered fully into that humility of heart. Where they know they are in utter poverty of spirit before you to allow you to heal and cleanse and restore and give them an identity in you. Jesus they still are about themselves. They're still filled with pride. They still think they can do it. They still give their members to the works of darkness and so they trust in lying words that they can't lose their salvation. Breaks my heart to hear people say to me. Oh i can't lose my salvation. When i know they're walking sin against you. They've been deceived. But they don't wanna face the reality that they must be washed entirely given and sanctified or they cannot enter into the kingdom of god lord they still think about self improvement. It's legalism lord. This is all a gift of righteousness surreal and every day and practical walking without sin by the power of your blood. Jesus or they're going to be lost but they can't face the fact that they'll be lost so they rely on a refuge of lies masking today awakening among your people. I'm asking that you would do the same thing with many listening today as you did. With charles finney the great conviction would come upon them that if they do not surrender to you jesus they are going to die and be cast into the l. of of eternity lured. This kind of conviction can only come by your holy spirit and it requires a great humility of heart unmasking. Please would you send your holy spirit. Would you minister right now to those who are listening. Who are still walking in rebellion against you. Were still walking in the pleasure of their flesh. Who are still giving their members over two things of darkness to pornography or pride the love of money the lust of ambition for success. Trying to be somebody trying to be recognized. Lord would you come minister to our broken hearts before you you bind up the brokenhearted. Jesus would you come close. Would you come for your church. Would you give your pastors backbone to preach the gospel and stop this pleasing. Effeminate attitude of pleasing load. Would you give them backbones to preach an honest word of truth with a be men or women give them back on lord if ever. There was a time in the church when we needed to hear the straight unvarnished gospel. It is now. I know you're greatly distressed by the wickedness. You see in your people and in your church and in those who are called pastors load. Would you come in minister. Now would you take our pride and bury it. Would you give us the ability to pray to cry aloud to you to be unashamed before you thank you. I pray colon. Our phone number's eight seven. Seven five three four zero seven. Eight zero are full. Lines are wide open. Would you humble your heart today and pray will you cast off the mask of and pray lift up your voice in praise for jesus lift up your voice if necessary in confession and humility before god to not be concerned about whether the people are going to think or what they're going to say but simply unashamedly open your heart before. God would you pray. Eight seven seven five three four zero seven eight zero. This is your time. I'm giving you this time to call and pray and the lord will bless you if you do that. Lord jesus i'm asking for a great outpouring of deep conviction upon every person listening today conviction of sin of wickedness of luke warmness or for those who are walking in righteousness great conviction of what you would have them. Do and say to be fishers of men to minister to those there with that that all fear would be removed from their hearts that they would receive holy boldness to proclaim your love. And your mercy and your grace but also your righteousness your justice your purity. Come by faith today. You told me you would meet the needs of the people i come saying. Yes lord. I agree that you right now are meeting the needs of the people who are listening to this broadcast. Some lord need conviction of sin and a broken heart they need to be humbled before you lord. Others need to be encouraged and strengthened and lifted up. Lord others need to be healed of their physical sickness. You said by your stripes. We are healed. So lord i pray. I lift up my hands right now and pray for healing in that person that you've chosen right now to touch lord. I know you're moving. I pray for healing in that person's body right now. Lord thank you. If you were just healed call and give testimony praise the name of jesus okay put the caller through. Will you choose rightly spray. How get have thank you. Could you turn your radio down right now. Okay your turn your radio down. You were on a time delay. Okay please eric. Our heavenly father. We thank you at this hour. We bless you name of jesus christ nassar we have come a little knowledge. Our show forwarding before dot com. I see well you told us. Oh god that we should come onto that term of greek that we are tim. My say we have come as change as funny as individual as nation nor the fall. Our spirit before com o greece. This hour we sit. Thank you for your massive. Thank you for giving us grace jazzy. Law two this five now you did not destroy as because it is your message. That of course was this. Thank you we bless you. According to your worries will guy in the last day would be your time and evening. We should be watchful indoors last day. You give stephen scrape. Joe matthew twenty four months dating luke luke. They one just coming of christ that we should be watchful in this time. The old the worst say that there will be crisis even in a vocal revelations. Things you talk about him out of the bee's that there would be fool shotting it would force people to receive the man. If you don't have the mind that would be no selling buying and solo. You thought to be why full on these science when we see these signs on that you're coming is even at the goal and so have us yet it all and give your what you're too wet or your people who is your minister of the gospel. Those three the word of truth to your cheche launch did true is missing in the trash. They past us are compromising with true and so man. I'm going straight for our free. We have come all came from from. You'll you create. That was in different from and we are going back and different front and so we'd lose sight of the way we can fun. You're more by dose gray and we are going ingrained dent and so we'd lose having the side of heaven well. We prayed yellow dye. You got we drink in connection with you because you gave your life and your grandson so for all because you love us so you give your set at. We're for orange winning. They all have a knowledge. Why you are don for us. Thank you jesus. we have been asked you. We give you the appraisal guy have also got to walk in newness of life law. This is not our home. We are strong. Yeah we are going different places we should having you wish you prepare for and so you long to do you. Don't one was to perish. Lack of fi izzo refuse to obey. You all go half a lot. We're not five hours setting dilation. We bless you this hour. We'll we'll guy i lance if you're this this and near plenty something to bring this and sean want one new work or may we had the michael and then monk of the bitch. If you don't housing all you can you. Cannot i say so please. I want to read this from revelations. he he had by at the gift live life onto that image of the beast stack the image of the beast shoe bull. 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What the appreciable defending mas- they wish don't push wish you brush wish beat and the rest of the apostle push for these thing a missing in a row so we are gone astray with brandy a lot. I will bring all bob. Oh god i slow into the she foot side that we all dc through your grace grozny up three lord. I thank you for my sister's prayer today. Matthew for her understanding of the word. Thank you that you have. And understanding. By god's grace and now i ask lord that you would fill her with the fullness of the holy spirit and make her a bold witness and testimony of your love and of your righteousness lord would you strengthen and encourage her and give her a place of witness and testimony in the name of jesus i pray amen. God bless you sister. Thank you well. Our phone lines are open and we have time for probably one more call. You can call us at eight seven seven five three four zero seven eight zero lord. I just come pleading your mercy for each of those today. Who are struggling in their walk. They know they're not right with you. They believed lies that they could not lose their salvation and they don't know the dire situation they're in. They don't know the thin thread by which they hang that they could as jonathan edwards said. Be cut off in a moment. Because they they are walking in unrighteousness but claiming a false belief in your mercy. Lord i pray that those who are still walking in wickedness who are trying their best lord. It's not in trying our best. It's entrusting and you. Jesus it's being cleansed by your blood. It's having a work of circumcision done in our hearts by the hand of jesus himself lord. Would you turn your people from their wicked ways today and would you cause the church to repent in america. Lord would you come powerfully now and minister in this washington metro area and across this nation and in other nations as they listen to this broadcast lord were in trouble and we need jesus we knew to come in another great awakening of pentecost power elsewhere going to perish. Many lord are taking the vaccine. That's new vaccine at all that is unto destruction. I pray your mercy. I pray your deliverance. I pray your healing for each lord. The enemy is such a deceiver. Such deception such lies lord. My trust today is in you and the mana that comes from your hand my trust today is your word. Lord i live by your word by every word that comes from the mouth of god lord i pray for your church today that our eyes will be open and our hearts will be given understanding that your healing will flow in our minds. Our bodies and our spirits. Come lord jesus in your mercy and your holy name a man. Today is a day of prayer. But it's also a day for jesus to answer our prayer so our number here in studio eight seven seven five three four zero seven eight zero. Invite you to call. We have time for one more call. Eight seven seven five three four zero seven eight zero. You're welcome to call impre. Lord how can i not pray for your people mighty god. We have another caller welcome. Please pray lord we come before you humbly. And jesus name today through the precious blood of the lamb. God i lift up the church in america tea right now. Father god lord. We're in a situation where we need you to show up and show out and show through. It's not an hour guy where revival is an option but lord it is a total assess ity voices. They're gone by your mercy today. Lord lettuce censure presence in a new and fresh way let the joy the lord hit the church goddess. It's never hit the church. Before and the spirit of repentance lord may come like a mighty flood across lord the pulpits across the pews across the Amen corner across Every one that walks into the house of god whether they be saved or unsafe but that spirit of conviction hit us. Lord so deeply god that we come to our knees or we begin to cry out for the living god in cry out for the manifestation even the whole world the whole creation. Groner thin within pain. Together until now. For the manifestations of the sons of god and lord we must manifest it or your will be done. It must be manifested in this hour. Gone and may you raise up. Preachers of righteousness. Lord that would preach god the the fire a holy ghost and fire. You said in the last days that you would make your angels spirits and your ministers a flame of fire and lower west. She needed to raise up preachers of righteousness that would preach like a flame of fire. God even as a white d. l. moody who experienced great success in his ministry and was asked why he experienced such great success and he said I ask the lord to sit me a fire and they come to watch me burn and more. Let us burn for you today. Let us not burn out a let us burn. Burn up Draws and burn up the chaff and everything. God that's in the way of your will and may we submit our our lives to your perfect will in this moment caught and where we lift up the nations that are suffering right now like israel. That's suffered this terrible. Calamity gotten india. Which is suffering under this a pestilence of covert god we curse covert at its roots. We ask you to put your mercy upon the nation of india right now. God lord we asked for the nation's we call them by name we ask for the nation's lord that they would come to you today in jesus name we give you praise and thanks for god in jesus name amen. Amen brother tom thank you. God bless you lord. I just pray right now for brother tom lord encourage his heart and give him a powerful testimony to bear everywhere. He goes in his business. Lord carey him in your arms lord. His wife is gone but lord he still. He's still here. Give him a powerful testimony and comfort. His aren't even yet. i in your holy name amen. You've been listening to pilgrim's progress. I'm pastor ray from the national per chapel. My heart cries that you would come under deep conviction if you're in sindh deep conviction needing repentance if you're if you're saved and you're walking clean than deep conviction that you must share and must have the fullness of the holy spirit's power in your life i'd love to hear from you. Please write to me at the national prayer chapel post office box. Twenty three forty six woodbridge virginia. Two two one nine five or please go to our webpage national prayer chapel dot com national prayer chapel dot com. You can give online. This is a faith ministry each month. 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143: Stage 6 | Requena Alto de la Montaa de Cullera | Vuelta a Espaa 2021
"You are listening to us. Level this idea in podcast at will espana powered by super sapienze and energy management for committed athletes and coaches state. Six today we at include thinking yesterday about links between you and obviously the angler. I think there's a story about linda ryan then particularly when you were born and you take that is when i was born like i'm born july obviously and in the In the room to the phones going on about So yeah when. I'm on my first video is when i am like In the of my mother it's a kind of the to the front daniel well rich. That was king. Kenny ellison the king of the welter overnight dethroned richard. Well if we said about spoilers. Sorry we're trying. We're trying to build a narrative here. We're trying to set the scene for a triumphant regal performance by king kenny. Today will last night. I mentioned the is has always been a link between kenny ellison and spain not just a little Eight years ago bought but when he was born Well you had you heard that you in the recording Kenny told the story this morning from the horse's mouth. I am not very big horse kenny. Not really a shire horse anymore of a cute little shetland pony indeed and we also. Yeah in last night's podcast. I also said that he would probably hold their could. Hold the jersey for several days. Did he managed to do that. Stay tuned to find. I am daniel. Can i ask a bike. King kenny. Because a few a few comments of seeing the but this social media the origin story of the name police king canny. Where does it come from well. He played for liverpool in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy s and school number seven on his by am the story. The origin serve. There is really an origin story. That doesn't need to be an origin story. Richard is just something that we have been using for many years now on it it has stuck but this is also something to do with the incongruity of it. It's a little bit like superman lopez. Which as much as people balk at it and wind. Saturday when we use superman lopez. I've always liked it. Because it's ferry at odds with his physical appearance. I would suggest because of the incongruity was established. Spanish for crosswinds am i mean Kings don't necessarily have to be told daniel if you're suggesting it's ironic it. That's not a requirement for to be king. No does it help if you the you know. The absolute mulling over nation. You know physically imposing impose out. Yes well i mean i i. I have a feeling giving away any spoilers feeling. We're going to be hearing again from kenny. Ellison dan tonight's absolutely quite charming that interview which i do urge you to stage into good job here of of Keeping people listening. Anyway and lionel. You're up more a master storyteller master we. We should ask you where you are as well daniel. Well charles who. I've come down off the mountain. We tried to start recording. That didn't we bought am. I was relying mavi stars. My boyfriend network which was performing A lot less well than their riders. Today so i've come down off the montana the kujira not really much of a mountain as we saw on. Tv is couple of kilometers. And now i have retreated to the pressroom just outside the him Yeah ready to go. You said we tried to start recording. We she did start calling four times. But i'm not soul being saved for the christmas bloopers. Lionel it is. I'm actually keeping loggers of things that may sound even more shambolic than the stuff. We broadcast be a episode. Then can we have. The taylor fit top. Please line on. It was cracking stage today. Wasn't it it really was. Yeah it really was completely the opposite to yesterday. Really and i was watching it. Thinking it was like getting sunshine. The last thirty five k. of anyway crosswinds and narrow farm style roads obviously given goes up by the the say as well but the seat down near valencia. Look slightly warmer than than the sales charts. Did you clock the ricefields creator. Famous pyan rice dishes and we saw At the side of the road. Where where some of that riseandgrind didn't we often see movie star boston. Get welcome in the way that we saw them bossing the race today. That's true that's true. They yeah they did. Try to turn turn the screw didn't they. But as you say it it was the finish up on the alto dila montagna taku yada the little to coloma to climb the wars where today patuone a stage of the the to valencia last season before lockdown I recognized as they went up that this afternoon. The question at the finish was would magnus get caught or would magnus not get caught on a. He was in the break which took a while to go actually took almost fifty kilometers for something to stick their The usual sort of flurry of attacks in the first hour of racing. But it wasn't until you're one bow our audio direst who's got a decent side. Hustle is a writer for euskaltel going in this welter had with ryan gibbons of the us. They'll john excellent. Yeah we'll come to that a little bit later on because that wasn't the that wasn't the end of him by any means he was joined by ryan gibbons i and they plugged away with a small gap and it wasn't until yet so ball of burgos. Who else magnus core. Every f education depot and bert yan lindemann of quebec next hash across to make it five riders that the peleton eased up and thought that will do that. Didn't want to many more going across so they used up pretty sharpish Going of israel startup nation tried to go across to it but didn't make it left a bit too late to make his move so those five and the race really lit up thirty three kilometers to go. Because i was a big split in peleton narrow narrowed and a bit of wind were causing problems and the wheels were basically being. Let go and kenny liaison. Who talked about writing and crosswinds wins in. Last night's episode found himself in the second group and was Well he had a go at writing across the gap on his own at one point which looked like a slightly unwise strategy but eventually about six kilometers later the stranglers the big second group get up to the the main peleton which say was being driven by movie star but also had any new mba visa out there looking alert as they went around and sort of circuit before they got to the final climb. Hugh 'cause he was having trouble holding the wheels and he got dropped in the hat a lot of help from his education depot teammates to get him back in around about eight kilometers to go still about six k. To the bottom of the climate point on the break still had a minute touch and go whether they would have enough to fight it out for the stage but they did. They were still twenty seconds ahead at the bottom of the climb on. I'm bow accelerated. He was i. Give a dig on. The climb. didn't work out for him Behind any grenadiers were looking pretty almanac narvaez on the front with a carapace and bernal and then of the break. It was just lindemann. Magnus court who were left. And i thought for all the world that group behind would catch them but it wasn't to be magnus court held on primoz rogue lich lead in the rest did one dot on the chaps echoes of that pyrenees stage when core parse gina mater. Right at the end. And i wonder whether rocklets could have taken the stage wanted to and perhaps thought back to the The control off about my chops he was asked about it at the finish and he gave a suitably enigmatic reply glitch no no I mean it was something along. The lines slovenian. Twist on if my grandmother had wheels she'd be wheelbarrow excellent. I suspect he probably could have won it if he wanted to buck but he didn't mind that not to take anything away from magnus court because an absolutely terrific win and his fourth vuelta state win in his career. What off king kenny. Then you mentioned. Kenny dalglish synonymous with the red jersey of liverpool Ellison did lose the red jersey of the welte today cracked on the climb and seemed to be enjoying his few meet in new jersey as he as he came up but four minutes. Thirty behind court and rogue lich. Hugh coffee lost to fifty on the client despite having got back in touch before they reached the bottom of it. genome a lost one. Twenty seven pattern fifty nine seconds but everyone else more or less within twenty five seconds or so one another so overall primoz regulate. she's now in red movie. Star stepped up behind him. Mass lopez valverde and second third and fourth then come burnell flash off and well tomorrow a seriously difficult stage climbing right from the off i think six categorized climbs a summit finish. We will probably know a lot more about the shape of the g. See this time tomorrow. But that was a cracking spanish. Classic really untraceable can just add one thing to the tail of the tapa. And i didn't. I didn't give line prior notice of this but last night. So we were staying staying play school cas yvonne. Yes which was halfway between albacete At akina um where we started today and while we were told me earlier when we seen my instagram posts the floods greeted incas yvonne. Yes what i didn't know is we were staying and i knew that we were going to stay in place code. Can you pass. Mike de But it also had a restaurant. I didn't know that in twenty twenty one this year. The restaurant was voted will a judge to serve the best crocetta in the world. The best ham croquet crocodile in the world. Those delicious potatoes. not again the. They received in premium. Kasey narrow. Which i'm told is one of the most prestigious well. One of the most specific crocetta awards threes. I mean there's definitely a monument definitely out there. You are listening to wilt us evil tests canadian podcast at the world spagna powered by super sapiens energy management for committed athletes and coaches still guessing on fuelling. Not sure what or when to eat and drink and rights that matter never again to measure refuting strategy with real time glucose data actionable insights and personalized analytics. We're here to help you. Achieve your performance goals go to super sapiens dot com for more and how to track your energy levels and fuelled for success. My name is charlotte. 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We're all trying to be better. Athletes aren't way. Thanks once again to super sapiens daniel. Just on the kerr cats as before we get onto digesting a brilliant stage caniza worm my way into crisis corner before we start. I said the one the the award one was the casino or doesn't make sense because actually means revelation or the cook was the revelation of the they did. They won not probably one of the one of the chefs that won that prize as well. But the The crooked funny enough one in the crocodile department other cricketer and category in the knowing the chefs category before we get emails and pointing. I know that the potato is not the main ingredient in criquette on. That was a mistake but lila made a couple years ago. Which i think a lot daniel along. Yeah i think the question the wiz where they any good where they better than the this. The prize winning star-studded celebrity restaurant tickets to burgos was. Yes yes they were very good rich. We need to warn it was One criquette one cookie. We had a bit of a menu on like a tasting menu very much. We didn't budget i hasten to How drinks how big. It was between golf ball and tennis ball. I would say. I would say it was around long. The shave crooked is more like what piece disposing profit idea. Get one if you get one. It should be medicine ball size. Surely just in well. Titus was more than the crocodile was the preamble. We got from one of the waitresses about how we were supposed to eat the crooked and exactly what we were going to. What sensations We we would feel in our in our mouth. Once we crunched into this award winning world famous now crooked hungry listening to this. I find some medicine ball size since delicious and we should go into the stage. What are what are well taken win by. Magnus court Is kind of you know. He's he's a very versatile writer isn't he can win. Sprints he he's won a stage quite not dissimilar to that tiny sa- couple of years ago through to had a win which would love very lumpy. I mean it was a sprint victory but Glitch finished second behind him. That guy as well On one one a summit finish very similar finish. I would say the tour of your show a couple of years ago or a few years ago. A very very very good writer who obviously play played a blinder in terms of. Just hold the nf back in the breakaway am i. There was a strong a strong break as well and might chaps have defied team orders to go into that break today. Because i i understand. He was sort of given Well threshold of a minimum of eight riders To be allowed to go into the break. How many weather with the six five five seven. He snuck in and Yeah it was. A good decision will be any repercussions tonight. I no it was a good decision. The end wasn't a but it's interesting to consider We think about what happened at the back of the race with the team leader. Hugh coffee how the two things may have been related or were they were they not. It's it's very difficult to say. I mean certainly. When bike exchange it was really them. That that i took the initiative and decided that they were interested in the stage where it wasn't a That was the start of what. I've i've very difficult last couple of hours which eventually took their toll on. He caught the on the whole of the education team. That was left in the peleton. I think You coffee needed more than magnus court. Today didn't end. The the signs are not are not great for him. He lost quite a bit more time and and didn't look great. You know struggling till the wheels of his team. Should we hear from one of his teammates. Daniel yes we should. I mean they. The rulers were around Hugh coffee so say. Aw and click. Hilaire and tom scully under a couple of others as well. They did a great job in pacing him back. I mean that was after any awesome. movie star really took the initiative. And when it really got windy towards the end on the final run into the said with about thirty kilometers ago that was where the damage was done as far as coffee was concerned but yeah calera was one of those who pays him finally managed to pay him back to the peleton in time for the bottom of that final climb but it seemed pretty inevitable that he would suffer. I mean it wasn't the kind of climate. Ct coffee anyway. It was a sprint more or less into the bottom made even worse by or even foster by yonathan not advice of any else in the way that they did and sure enough. He suffered the knee and lost. He lost over two minutes. Oh yeah we've spoken. I'm we guys about the the the issue positioning and with regard to education and the a couple of times already in this western. They've almost been caught. Our have been cool out yesterday. They were long way back when there was that big crash with lebanon cates ago. And today they were. They were the wrong end again. So i spoke against click. Lehrer the finish about why that might have been and how it had contributed to the split. That eventually occurred yeah. It wasn't easy on the front. I think We missed that i. I'm from that moment on. We were always a little bit on the back foot. But i think we did it smart and sang together. He was always able to come back but it wasn't easy today days like today. It's dangerous to lose lose energy during the state and did the best we could today. It wasn't a wasn't best suited for you Tomorrow we'll be again seen last couple of days and you're probably aware people have said that too far back back to yesterday narrowly missed the crash. What would you say to that that. It's not easy to stay in the front. A director yelling. Steve stay in the front then. I think yesterday when we turn on that big road. We felt that it wasn't going to be that it wasn't gonna split there. Were going to be any echelons so we just say all together in back and i think it was good we were involved in the crash. We got around and we got a. We got finished pretty safe without losing time. Today was a little bit more a little bit more. Definitely but Problem is pink jerseys. We can always see when you read the back. Maybe it's the helmet is against cucolo. There is another former direst vers defense last year and refreshingly honest really a by paying helmets. Just i'm just how difficult it is. It's not easy is not simply a case of knowing that you've got to be at the front and therefore being the front. It's it's hard and when you've got leaders maybe maybe struggling a little bit as well. maybe even harder though quickly obviously confidently carthy will improve. As the race goes into terrain onto climbs. He might prefer. I mean this. This today was a real. It was a real explosive finish. Wasn't an props props. Not one for him. I think we've maybe been a bit misled or blindly to how different the start of this. Wealth has been to other wealth as he lost some climbs. So we've we've sort of thought. Well this is typical vuelta first week. But i'm actually you know there's been a lot of wind depend a lot of flattish straight roads. I mean i spoke to. Go math towns morning. And he said he is not enjoy himself so far Last year's of course he was on the attack pretty much every day and he said it's just been a completely different first week this year. Yeah i think when you look at the way. The final climb when as well is perfectly balanced to see Rogue lich up. There you know amish made for him really eat snaffled a little time. Bonus as well But michael matthews was one of the. I thought one of the the best riders on the climb. And i know he can climb very well but it was that climb. That was a mix wasn't and perhaps the sort of the real juicy riders. You know we're a little bit outside of their comfort. Some of them in a coffee overseas having trouble earlier on in a stage. Just just holding. We're simple as out on on flat windy road but when it came to the final climb land lost a little bit of ground. Richard coward has lost a little bit of ground. Having i think probably because he was the lead into the bottom of the client for indios grenadiers so not a typical three four k. Climb much more of a almost almost say a classics effort really so a place. Where just get through it and take off. And i think mavi style will probably be pretty pleased with You know how they'd come out with today. Three riders still extremely well placed overall What you thought of that performance. Today why i think they absolutely thrilled in the. They've got second third and fourth on german classification. Haven't they Twenty five seconds town. Master t six lopez forty one day and and off the two teams who do not age daniel teams who came into this race where it's notional tridents potential three potential leaders They're very much intact whereas any other than what you chops to me. It looks as tight bring towards well a single pronged spear which with Eh combat. Now at the tip because he's forty one seconds down but yates lee a little bit more time today and what the intention was but he he led into the final count behind narvaez and did a lot of work Leon with the with the result of with the consequence of him losing a little bit more time again today and he's quite a long way down. He's in eighteenth place Two minutes eighteen seconds down. I mean not completely out of it but it looks to me as though better now is going to be bad mom. Yeah i still think they have a carving fork rather than a skewer though they've still got adam in he's he's not lost too much ground but not no longer a trident that do cycling podcast team cars. The back of the facts lease voice radio tour the tour de fronts interrupting our wealth coverage to reminds us to tell you. This episode is sponsored by lincoln. Jobs night today. Many small business owners are busier than ever searching for and entering the right candidates can take time await for managing and growing a business. That's why linked in jobs has made easier to get to the candidates worth interviewing faster and it's free but will come to that in a moment. We have experienced ourselves of using linked in jobs when we were looking for a spanish language audio producer for our new sister. Podcast l. cycling. Podcast the cycling podcast in spanish and it's hosted by lara messier and raw. Patchy me no from eurosport rob as a commentator laura as a presenter. It wasn't easy. 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M not not just that they're well positioned but the way that the writing on the way they were writing as a team. Today was very impressive. I wonder if it's a patchy effect am that we're seeing perhaps so do. I wonder certainly go options. Nihar wonder as well with that decision yesterday or they announced we heard in the morning. They were going to do no interviews tool yesterday. Neither start nor the finish You know wonder whether the the what they saved by. Not speaking to the media moved yesterday. help them today. Whoever calculations on their little calculators before the climb today obviously we got them spot-on because They wrote extremely well. And you spoke to somebody this morning. Who mentions movie star. Didn't he somebody with a voice made for the wealthy mix espy said yes rich. We were we six days into the. I spend us now and the stage. I mean we've had. We had had one hill finishing up until today and we'd seen sort of hints of formed from some is in and chinks in the armor from others. But i mean we just kind of curious to know whether the dc contended of studying each other and looking for signs. That someone's going well or not. Well i mean there's that The the old story. We should a bit of a myth about faster copying the vein in the back of his leg. It was sort of throbbing and Very prominent when he wasn't going well and you could barely see it when he was going on. And i think that the right way round. But i'm always keen to know whether the road is. Look these signs so jack. Hey of bahrain victorious. Where the he'd been studying the g. c. contenders this week and what he had seen especially off the stage three us really interesting to see we saw murphy stock really strong a really really good racing to see how the relationship between in and superman during the race loaded. I'm good friends but it's amazing story line to the media. I guess in we also saw maybe number of he's not quite as strong team dempsey's so yeah we. We see how the ride is a climbing today. Kind of get some where everyone's form. Well jack has a netflix subscription. But it sounds as though he'll be disappointed when he finds out but the probably isn't going to be a season three season. Three i should. I should add of the the now famous infamous beloved documentary and the pencil. The least expected day On the movie starting the big question from star now though is how. How did i play this. like three. riders within fifteen seconds of one another overall in the top four. Somebody has to be the leader at some point and we get into the stage of the race where that decision is going to have to start to be made. You'd have you have to figure it's between mass and lopez don't need but Tomorrow it'll be really really interesting to see what they do whether they they. They tried to strengthen numbers whether they just stick with what they've got for now or whether they tried to turn a screw a little bit and maybe make it into a Two against one between mashing lopez's wrocklage. What would you do if you were in the movie star team car. I think it'd be made easier by the fact that they seem to be an. They have a lot riding. Very good form from evita nelson veda to Jacobs says well you're on and and involve verde at this point. We mentioned his age earlier. Didn't we. I think it's become pretty clear. The he's gonna play the dedicated team So they don't have to worry about about him. Although i said you know he's an option on general classification. I think he will be valuable highlighter. Superman on my spa. I just wonder whether jack haig there he said. It wasn't a loaded comment about my Superman and then he'll know both of them Particularly mass muscles lifting for a few years on as does hague. And i just wonder whether he's got a little bit of intel there about how harmonious the relationship may or may not be between superman and mass. Yeah it's difficult to imagine. Either of them willingly. You know playing the team rule when as you say daniel if throwing good form and they looking good form and they'll both fancy trying to win this while tougher themselves so that's gonna be really a tough one but as well as looking for throbbing veins on the movie star writers legs jack haig who lost a little bit more time today m job to do for his team leader. Mikhail landa doesn't. Linda has got through almost the first week. Unscathed doesn't a. Which is which is worth remarking on. Yeah i mean he did lose a bit a bit of time again today. It could've been it could've been worse Because that wasn't a climb that really suited him but he he lost twenty seven seconds to magnetic well to glitches william party lost more because roguish took the time bonus so i i would give him sort of six ten foot today and indeed the first week. He has leaked a little bit of time. But as the team has said a few times this week Landa will will relish the stages that we've got coming starting may be from tomorrow to com the alicante anyway champs. I spoke to jack again off to the finish to get his verdict on on what had been a very hard day down to his form i think. Maybe he's not the best in musician. These these really suited for those multiple back-to-back really hot days are we shouldn't read too much into it and Let's go onto tomorrow or he'd have mccracken real hug today on there and i think you saw the effects of the heat some some The wind also desolate pot on the circuit. We are in the final. Did twice times it was turning the. I think the first time a little bit more than the second and then you run into the final I'm not sure exactly. Maybe he also murphy star and really it out and it kind of made it difficult with. Maybe he wanted to have taste me this bridge and more exposed than the bridge and really sit align everyone out and then they had twenty eight headstart on the rest of going ongoing climb and they really hit the bottom. Four five hundred meters subodh. Bigger time got expected. He's not simply because it was led into that climb so hard and also what comes before the previous thirty forty. Yeah definitely Today started off with sort of fifty kilometers on quite twisty royds and that was what hard for the first hour celebrating our on. Hawthorne mitchelson really took it up. And i made a suba hod city in the middle there may be see when we went bird nervous. I've positioning really early and end up. Being quite a hot day. To be honest. Science fort is supporting the cycling. Podcast at there will best science sport. You'll by science. Thanks very much. Indeed to science and sport are sponsored since twenty. Sixteen if you want twenty five percent off all your scientists sport products you know the code. Sis c. p twenty five and two that checker sciences sport dot com for twenty five percent. Off all your signs of sport. Goods and i need to stock up mind. Because i'm running lou. Ann ponding unthinkable cycling over the next few weeks and months. Should i get some tirumala. Sue energy baseline absolutely. Yes they really really good i. Maybe they'll do some cra. Kettles some point ham cra catches energy bikes. Why not does come a time. The crocetta would be a great great energy product if you could recreate that as a sports nutrition product soft got crushed on the outside to hold it together in a in. A jersey pocket sometimes crave something savory during the long ride potato as well anyway moving on catches by the way you can have them in spain as well on gwynedd kind of worms again. Contact the cycling. Podcasts dot com. If you'd like to discuss that with lionel lying cycle podcast dot com if you on team directly and well. We saw a change in the the leader's jersey today. Primoz raw glitch has back in back in red and as it was a short lived affair for king kenny. Alison just one day but shame because he took it in unfortunate circumstances ryan tara my crashing and didn't seem thrilled to have it in those circumstances so it's not that he's not much keep it for a second day where he could he could he could properly enjoy am. But i don't know if that was your sense at diane. Not not give any more spoiler. But there's inch coming out with him where he comes across very charmingly and doesn't seem to have any regrets about toll now he was in a difficult position today because whether the break stayed away and it was a bit of a sort of ceasefire between the general classification ride is all The the the peleton while chase down the break and the dc riders. We're going out on the final climb. It was it was going to be difficult for king kenny. Because he's not the most explosive climber. Although he is pure klima he was going to have to finish within five seconds of premiums regulatory if rogue glitch was going for buying a seconds then he was going to be out of the out of the game so it was very difficult to know what to do. And also we've got stages coming starting with tomorrow and there's another one stage nine to after they've vilification where i think kenny would like to be in the break going for a stage win so he had to leave. He's gonna lose time. You have lose it quickly. And while he eventually did just out on the final climb today but rich. I spoke to him as he came over the line smiling just as he was this morning on 'em he obviously had a very enjoyable memorable day holiday barrionuevo sexually and Yeah it was I quickly understood. Like five six robotic. I'd prefer to save up our chance to this weekend. to to go again in breakaway rather than between two shares and be sagawa. Thirty five seconds. And don't have the ticket to go to the break. So i say okay i have it completely anyway. I'm not gonna make it no. I am four twenty two hundred five. So maybe i will have a chance to go in the break again tomorrow. After tomorrow i was a is just best thing to do because we have our so julia so i really enjoy. It was a special so we lost lx cash. Iran voters in a wheel and we almost crashed. And then i lost a little bit confident. Because i my phone slipped ourselves and And i was a little bit less confident as our nostrils kenny. What was it like to have people. I guess you had people calling your name and people always recognize the latest jersey. Nice it's nice to. I wrote a lot for guys and To have one time in my life of a last night was special sanaa. i know quite finished prematurely. For what what are you gonna do without jazzy. What were you doing. I don't know. Maybe i will wash it. Maybe i'm not gonna wish it and i would frame put it in somewhere. What terry somewhere. So i was to my son you see it was no joke our psyche staff. Kenny yellowstone there Ken kenny king of hearts for sure. I mean he. He came across very well in the interview. I'm going to frame his jersey And stick it up on his wall just to remind himself and others he was. He was a cyclist So that was nice kenny kenny. When he turned pro like yomata is with gail martin and lost years and what was always mentioning profiles into kenny. Was that he was a great art lover and people really at this point and they sort of gave the impression spent more time in the musee say than he did on his bike But you know maybe you know maybe the loof may do. I don't remember feature that you did on the thank. You sat the narrative but it would be nice European nice tribute a nice omar's if he's home city paris and took that frame judging put in the louvre nice. I guess anything's possible Unlikely i think sorry. Sorry can kenny. And it was his his teammate. Kill ryan last night in in our podcast. Last night said that the first thing he said was he's parisian not french which was an interesting observation because he lives near niece does and he's very friendly with the american writers who lived down there and trains with them quo tomorrow. Then daniel m. what can we expect tomorrow. Well we've got quite a nasty looking mountain state. An exciting mountain stage finishing on the climb that has not featured in the i here before certainly not the top paw and balcony alicante and lost four kilometers in fact up until quite recently when even tom. I'm quite nice story about how the tomorrow and and the balcony alicante having been awarded the stage finish This is the culmination of a of a bit of a campaign. social media campaign led for several years and this has happened before in the vuelta you know members of a local psyching koerbel People who live in a certain region get together and they bombard whether it's the race director someone else. Someone else in the organization with suggestions About a particular road and this is what happened with the balcony alicante. There's a soccer club. At the bottom. Called the tb citing club and they started years ago lobbying for declined to be used but the last four kilometers had to be. Tom was a bit of a goat. Track before those lost four kilometers are extremely steep consistently around ten percent gradient there and it's going to be real sorta they could actually I believe taken the race. Even further up The balcony alicante. I think he can go another Some antenna on the top of the mountain. And i'm these these local scientists were hoping that welter might even go that far but that won't be the case but no fans tomorrow that right given given the given the you know the that it was speaking cough fan led campaign have include. That seems like a real shame. Yeah ironic isn't it and they because no of kobe but because the risk of forest fires interesting well because one of the features and today's specials bended the crowds I think in this first week of the wealth and well we've gone through some very un underpopulated parts of the country but today the the crowds look pretty impressive on the final. Climb it. it's it's going to be interesting to see how jimbo visa approach the next few days in how keen they ought to keep this this red jersey because well as we heard jack haig allude to earlier on they happened looked to solid in the mountains. Particularly i didn't stephen cries wakes going that well and chris as well has been patchy so far in the also They might be quite reluctant to keep hold of the jersey will to try to keep hold of the jersey from now until santiago the compostela just on rogue lich and the elitist jersey. He has overtaken at one hundred thirty in this swelter as the active rider with the most days in the leader's jersey at the rogue of allred jerseys and this year last year and two thousand nineteen And he's well if he carries on another handful of days. He'll outright second ahead of roberto had us and bearing down on alex zula. Who's got forty. Eight days in the leader's jersey. That's a record rahman germany to rominger. He's he's joint third. And had i some thirty four and then zula in the lead on forty eight but Yeah broke late now. I think tomorrow be day twenty nine. I'm doing my arithmetic is an interesting. It's a very interesting point you made last night. Though donald bonus seconds from genus or the bedrock of glitches welte wins. And you know. He's not been snuggling them as much as he perhaps has done in previous some today. Say today yeah might be well. We should wrap things up for tonight. Just a little mentioned mitch. Dockers recent life and the pallet on the loss but one episode was a a long chat with magnus court his teammate today. Statement which you can go back and listen to if you want to know more about. Magnus corvette cool dane. It's an interesting conversation between the two of them and We've got another absolute zero coming tomorrow. Don't we daniel reveal what it's what is really shoot. I deep dive into the story of mark pattern. One of the unexpected Over here is the right word. But when the unexpected Cycling summer Excellent looking forward to listening to that while we better let you crack on with that daniel. You've got some work to do and just very quickly. Really have chance to sample paige. This evening you're in region. This will shock you lie. No but it's rather than just head straight down the coast in a in a very straightforward fashion to to the starts mar- i selected a Hacienda the is perched up in the mountains Slightly inland is a bit of a detour. Difficult slightly guilty Because you have a travelling companion and making them go slightly out of the way and whether we will still get some pie up In the mountains. I'm sure well you can report back them not tomorrow night. I'm i'm look forward to. Who cannot with you again a interesting day coming into the wealth of tomorrow and in the meantime thank you very much daniel thanks chops thanks. Lionel traps a.
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Bishnupur: A Royal indulgence to Indian History Souharydiya De | Ep #20
"Hello and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing. Act a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas each podcast leave you educated and leave you with a unique life lesson balancing act today. I'm going to speak to so hard year. Was born in two thousand and four. He's only sixteen years old by indian author of historical fiction and artists. And podcast so sunday your has authored bylines in different newspapers and blogs like the citizen the sunday guardian violin the statesmen and many more he intends to revitalize the indian identity and his podcast cast also talks about this going cost mcgraff and i think you should definitely check it out. It's on amazon usa one ghana and the rest of podcast networks. So how'd you welcome to balancing act and thank you for taking the time out on your busy schedule and making sure that people from the travel ban drawn to understand what your passion for ideas and how this all began. Please tell me about your passion for writing and how that came to be. Thank you so much for having me. Yo on a backpack. Who makes podcast that deals with travelling and well. I'm talking about my passion for writing. There's not exactly and a certain time. And i i started writing to be very honest. I found this world. Your list is my child childhood. You know so when we had some composition tussle school and in the primary stages but yes to greater in trenton. Writing latin industry inheritance was predominantly in early eighteen years old and was used to reading lots of books especially why my party does these to learn them to revise the architects. Don't fall york us off today. 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Outside of agency hours in London Ayesha Kapadia | Ep. #14
"Hello and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing the ACT a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas each podcast will leave you educated and leave a unique life lesson. Hello and welcome to balancing the ACT today with an artist of visual director a creative consultant. She goes by the name, and juice or Instagram. Hi. I shall I come to balance India. Hi Kevin. Thanks for having me here. I think you are low most obvious supposed. I know we should talk about art and what your passion for art is to begin with. So as long as I can remember, I've always done or like been really happy around making things or like with my crayons and themes. I've always been around art and job like all the way back to school. With summer holidays with my you know, crayons and paints and I think that that was my favorite most favorite thing to do. Obviously the most favorite. In school was dead graft and that's what I found joy and I just kept doing more of it and I was encouraged to do more of it by my family. Also, they would buy me these craft books and art books and I mean for me it was I don't know if she think about it. I didn't ever think that it was something different or because as as normalized, okay, we eat lunch now and now I do art or like you eat lunch you brush your teeth, whatever. It was a very own normal activity for me and I'm happy to have been able to I mean, I'm still figuring it out. What exactly do I want to do cuz all forms of art excite me, but I'm happy to be on this page and he and I'm happy to continue discovering different artistic abilities are headed inside. I want to understand you know, what are the different types of art form like to me as an honest person for me off. Not playing some Martin. So what what do you consider as art in any type forms that you are specializing in life, but you're not wrong when you think that everything is out because actually anything and everything is up Julie. I'm not just saying that the same one my friend makes fun of me is like life as art artists diagramming. But but it's true any specific forms of art. Well when you study English formally you're exposed to different types of art and I currently enjoy it typography. I majored in typography. So I really like letterforms construction that the fault it's very technical cuz you really have to think of height and weight and sweater. Structure can balance the the bumps and goals of the letters. So I really enjoy walking out on constructing that all but apart from that I like all art forms. You don't I'm not a big fan of is like barley odd. And then pops up in my head right now because somebody asks you to make some barley out for them. And also I call them sorry I can't but apart from that. I just enjoy working with different mediums working with video. I enjoy working with digital illustration. I enjoy working with paints Lee any kind of I love I love exploring different mediums and formats off bashing like come into this and what was like the way all the method to all of this madness. How can you make a living out of it? I should start off by saying that I'm still figuring it out. But I am formally trained in our right. I have a degree in Commercial Art. So I think that's where it starts. I spent four years learning going exploring. I had an amazing teacher who like really pushed me off things my own way. She never told me how to do things. She saw that I was exploring and she pushed me in a direction which was an explorative birth. And I continue to do that in my work right now and I started my career in advertising spent a year-and-a-half at an agency. I quickly realized that I don't want to spend my time making them smaller. But but there was a lot to learn from the people. I met there also, my boss has encouraged me to quit they're like, oh you should totally do things outside of outside of a jack. Also, you have so much potential. They start nursing guys. I'm sure till 11:12 p.m. When is the outside of the agency has like what are you talking about? There is nothing outside of agency as as one day, which is Sunday when I don't want to do anything because I'm completely spent but eventually my I quit that job and I realize that I didn't have a plan and I figured I'll just I mean my plan was to explore what I wanted to do that has just continued into what I'm doing even now I continue to explain Even now luckily for me people like some of the work that was doing and I got commissioned to do the same work for Brands and I guess that's how it picked up. But I guess the one thing I'm doing that is working is to continue to explore and to continue to do more of what makes me happy. So I want to understand your experiences of travel and have just changed your own life take your in this office and obviously all going to places you're meeting new people. So what is that? Like, I mean travel of course like as generic as this may sound travel is always life-changing. I mean for me, I always come back a changed person because perceptions have changed a met new people have had new experiences. So that filter through which I see the world has evolved. It's grown but got more filters. So I really like that and have obviously travelled a bit for work also, which is always exciting. It's always exciting to work in new places. You meet new people you learn new thing. So yeah, I mean, like everybody else travel has influenced my life for for any trouble that it makes you realize like oh this was the ishine ever discovered like this is something special and wage after that moment that very moment you change your method of or you'll realize that things can be done differently as well. Well, yes, so there is this one specific incident happens and I've always been a fan of Andy Warhol, all red. I love his work and I loved more than his work. Actually. I loved his life story but gives birth. And inspiration that somebody who just followed his heart eventually did something significant with his work and it was odd hidden save people. I mean art can save people but it wasn't like a doctor saving lives. It was just odd that has saved my life many times over. You know, I I feel like the only happy looking at his work and so on top of my birthday's I decided I'm going to give myself like a trip to to London to see his work at the date and it happened and when I was there when I was actually in front of his real life work you have seen as the same work. I've seen in books and online and I've seen it multiple times. I know it but it was just suddenly so different and I remember standing in front of one of them like large large scale works and just crying I was sick tears also implies was so emotional and animal makes Papa but not like it is deep. It is immensely low birth. That is that us. There's a lot of meaning but it's also so bright and cheerful and there I was at this pink and yellow are just sobbing away because what she said to me, once it it made me believe that he is real but he was a real person. Yes you read about him, but it's not any different from Reading comments about Batman Superman and like all these like eight characters who their heroes in your mind. So for me, it was also human mind, but when I actually saw his work, I was like, oh my God, he was real he actually existed and he actually did all these things off. So I feel like that was like a life-changing moment for me to actually experience as well and post it. What was this whole London trip about and especially being on your birthday obviously not going there for just that one experience on a female know you went for that one experience there were other things as well that you did over. It was just like so people or that experience. I mean, I must my priority on every day was to visit Rome. Each and every Museum in the city, so I spent all our time in all the museums there. Of course, I think the idea was to go visit the city look at the city look around floor the statistics all the people across the energy and had great a man's fun doing that. But yeah, this is one of the experiences that really stands out because it really proves that primero what you're doing you continue to do it you can walk. In fact other people's lives in the in fact as well had on my life is what I hope to have on like other people's lives with my work. What do you think of the museum wage exists in Mumbai India visited any of those? And is there anything like Art Museum's mean of course have visited all the museums and art galleries here only take you honey. It's like, oh come on, let's go and you're going with your routing box and pepe package to all these museums. And yeah, I love looking at everything in the museum because you're learning about the streets through Visual Art dead. Some Lovin You immediate you're learning about literally how your country was made through these like stones and papers and textiles and I'm immensely immensely like interested in learning about different textiles and crafts forms of the country. So I loved visiting museums and there's a very active. I mean right now and go whether it's a bit slow, but they just open but there's a way about so good in Bombay. Also, there's this thing called at night Thursday which happens in and around lobby while the galleries are open till 8. I used to love going for that less because of the art and more because of the culture that and the energy that's available at your disposal and I and I didn't find this. I mean, I'm sure these circles exist in other cities in India, but I I feel like in Bombay. It's I mean, I love the other cities. Also, I love Bangalore & Delhi to Kolkata. But like I feel like it's different, cuz you can just walk up to a person and just like start a conversation about nothing but dead and that's what I love about about visiting galleries natural power outlet Thursday. It's nice to be surrounded by people more interested in the same things. And yeah, who's your favorite $500 with? Okay, so I don't have a famous fashion, right, but I can tell you about what my friends who I travelled with. My name is Dia cheese laughing my head off her. She heard her name right now, but we went to for the icon all together and it was only five traveling with like the only thing we did together was have a meals and life probably come back at night like see but like if we had to like do any inter-city travel travel together, but the rest of the time we were doing our own thing very happily and that's nice. It's nice when you can log There's no pressure of all like oh, let's go there or there's no pressure of that but both doing our own thing and soil really enjoy traveling with all those good fun. Plus we both she's also an office. So like we both had a lot of fun. We got these little props with us, like lights and masks and costumes. So and because could I Canal offers itself to a lot of greenery and level it calms them all in that area. We had a lot of fun creating these like magical sceneries and visions and dressing up and taking pictures. So yeah, I had a lot of fun traveling with Iraq because we got together. What is your most important life lesson that you've learned throughout your life. Like if there is one piece of wisdom that aishah is given to the World War two days off. Well, if there's one piece of wisdom, I feel like I have a lot more wisdom to gain but if there's one thing that I've learned is to just keep doing things that make you happy cuz that's what I do and leave and magic in the magic of things. It doesn't like the old one at the world tell you otherwise magic exists and having fun, but it's not bad and being playful with your work is is the purest form of joy you can ever experience. So just keep doing that. I didn't make sense completely makes sense to me because I am of the same important process key. Do you like doing it? You keep continue doing it, even though you might not get rewarded for it. But I think the reward can come anytime. That's what my mom lets me, but I think that's what is the joy you get out of it. That is the reward. It's not monetary pleasure. Maybe but mentally, I think you are in a better place and anything you look forward to doing job. This remaining twenty twenty. What do you think for the end of this? Wonderful you are you want to bring some? At work in some of your new activities that you've planned. Is there anything that you're looking forward to and twenty twenty or Twenty Twenty-One. That is a special project that I'm working on Thursday. I'm looking forward to hopefully and running once too much pressure on twenty-twenty right now to I don't know how it will happen right now, but I think I'd speak more about it when it happens. But apart from that I have really enjoyed the keynote time at of caught during this pandemic and I'm just looking forward to December right now. I think that's all that's all I'm looking forward to just making it to December 2023 going for survival. Rather. Let me put it that way and I think I said was lucky talking to you. We got to know about art and the various museums that you visited. I think once everything opens up. I think people in Bombay should definitely check out the ad seen that happens on every Thursday you could help them out. You know, give me a link to a Facebook page that I can help these guys by need to be wonderful and thank you for taking out the time and sticking. Thank you. Thank you so much Kevin for having me and being interested in in my life. This podcast is brought to you by backpack. Ami Instagram handle at Backpacker me follow off share.
Paris: A dance workshop can touch your soul - Chandni Davda | Ep. #13
"Hello, and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing the ACT a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas each podcast will leave you educated and leave a unique life lesson. Hello and welcome to balancing the ACT today. I am with Janet. She's a dancer during the day of pianist at night Howard graduate of twenty twenty five digital strategist for WWE South Asia. Welcome to balancing reaction. Hi, Kevin. Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show. So Johnny because you are a recent graduate of 2020 and also have a lot of experience in your work life. What makes work fun for you. I work as a digital strategist off in the media and entertainment industry. And what makes it fun for me is the fact that there is no linear way to get ahead. It is like this wild ride that you are on birth. You don't don't know what they're going to be thrown in the next and I can say this from many projects and jobs that I have been apart of like from Disney to being other sets of Bigg Boss digital content to handling live streams for a music festival and now getting the opportunity to travel the world with WWE and promoting the wrestling content and the superstars. I have a new single here that has been the same and the reason I have been able to have this crazy amount of versatile experiences because I've always kept moving without being fearful of taking any chances off. I would say that having that sort of newness in every project makes work a lot of fun for me, but it definitely comes with its fair share of hard work and immense stress. I keep telling my friends I wasn't able to enjoy music festival while I was working for it when I left the job and attended as a festival-goer. I was able to fully immerse myself in that experience. I was your travel or your you know, Johnny Cochrane would be Howard University black people really look up to people volume. So, how was this joint? I'm just going to say that I got this opportunity for see because of WWE. They have a continuing education. So push their employees due to the continual learning continue growing and they of course funded publicly quite an extent and to enter how it also I have to study a lot for like, I almost have off of my cellphone entire yard even get into the university. So almost after so many years of experience. You wouldn't really think of getting a degree of your work experience off. Volume but yeah, sometimes when I was studying student, I was just thinking to myself. Well, you know do I really need to do this because I was studying and I was working at the same time. It's not like I had you know, the boss should not be leaving my full-time job. So especially hard when I found out that I have been accepted to the university our has been a real life change or it was lot of life experience and no amount of reading about it or hearing about people's experiences can prepare you for what you're about to experience firsthand. I was very fortunate to have them delete find my Master's they're off to an extent. I was also juggling work and study for three years switching back and forth between Mumbai to Stanford by W. His head quarters are and Cambridge in Massachusetts where the universe is and when you get there, it is too real for the first few days the campus the history The Heritage the legacy of people who studied there right from George Bush Bill Gates dead. Coupled so there is a cement heaviness you feel to prove yourself when you are there as well because literally every student you meet on campus you feel like extraordinary people with extraordinary a five year olds, but once all of that settles and you are in that bubble you slowly start to realize that it actually doesn't feel as what people make it out to be once you actually settle, you know in on the campus and you are inside that bubble you slowly start to realize that it actually feels just as you would like, you know, like I said in any of the plays the curriculum all of that is is sort of like standardized if you made so you're learning. I mean, you're definitely learning from professors that are the best in the world, but even they are the most humble and that time Saddam issue without any sort of fears now, so the whole three years is spelt like yeah like a normal academic experience off. And what is great about the whole how our experiences that to develop a lifetime of network globally with friends and professors who becomes such an important part of your life and they are there for you even after you graduated. So from an academic point of view, it was pretty straightforward as business and management. All I'm going to say is that the degree does help you see the world from a very different lengths and of course made a massive difference in how I approached work increased, you know my competence to an unimaginable level. So I'm just going to say that hard work was all worth it at the back end after I own my routines. Because this forecast talks about travel and how you balance both work and travel any travel that has made you realize who the real value is. Well, I have had quite many experiences. But the one that really really changed my life. I would say was my travel to Paris. I was just honored on a road trip to Amsterdam for the music festival that I look for Super Sonic and I was a hamster dam for an event and I just took a detour I went to Paris once my work was done and I'm also a down so I have been trained in in contemporary dancing and either sell so I just had I had this instructor who had been following them almost like an almost ten years watching our videos and watching her work on YouTube and in taking that, you know those passive lessons from her. So I just saw that she's doing this workshop and I was like, okay, I am very close to where she is and I would probably want to just like to take this opportunity because this to this workshop with her. Yeah, so I did that and that was I I I didn't realize what a what a huge you know impacted in make on me, but Was it was like I was watching this person. I was Starstruck watching her and learning from her and that was sort of you know had like this entire financial concern me because I because because of the harder for them, you know, I I loved are saying that's that's that's who I am that's also a huge part of my personality. So yeah, so that's what spoke to my soul wage and it's something that I would not you know, forget what I would like to say since you since you asked about a travel life-changing experience, is that a lot of people space I am having or you know going to a certain place is life-changing. I did do that. Actually it's a funny story. I did skydiving as well. And this was this was way before I went up this Paris trip, and I you know this whole sort of hype about like, oh my god do skydiving and you know sort of became became a thing in allowing 2016/2017 that everybody is like if if you've gone out of town and I'm skydiving, you know you off You like missed out on a big thing. So I was on a trip to Prague with a couple of my friends and colleagues and they suddenly decided to this entire, you know skydiving trip and I almost went with them but they had ended up doing skydiving and I did not so I was made to feel so sort of like left out because of that that they were talking about the whole experience. So I got back from Prague back to India and then it's just played a lot of my mind. I was like, how was I not able to do it? Like what a loser. Could I be and you know, there was a life-changing experience. How would I have known what you know would have changed for me had I actually talked my side I went off. So yeah, I just played on me for like so so long that the next opportunity that I got. I was traveling to have something to Elliot just about a year or something and I was like, okay, I have the spot where I can describe opportunity because I had this real sort of, you know feeling that I missed out big-time. So this time in L A actually sort of found out a good school a good skydiving, you know place and I'm home. I did it now. I'm not going to say that it wasn't a great experience. It was a fantastic experience. But it I can say that it is so overrated if you ask me did it change my life, I would say not even a little bit I would just say if I just jump up a plane. It was like a massive General Josh for me. It was fun. But if you ask me if I'm going to do it again. I'm just going to say wage. No, it's not something that speaks to me as a person like my previous experience that I said like, I mean much later when I would go and go to do that Workshop in Paris. That was something that was a lot more life-changing for me then I would think so. Yeah, I think the takeaway message from this is that anybody travelling don't go by your like your standard Universal checklist stuff, like what makes a life-changing experience or not travel you have to just look within yourself. Who are you as a person? What what brings you alive? What brings out the fire and you and that is something wrong. You have to pick I mean if you order like if you are a adventure junkie, then of course skydiving is for you. What about a favorite person to travel with? Like I know a lot of people do so long as a lot of people who travel with your family, but you as a person what do you feel and moves the person that you're most comfortable traveling with? Oh, I don't have just one. I am I'm just going to say that when I did my dad died of gym. This was a 2017. So it was just me and my cousin who just like took off and we just very crazy he made up his hand tightly packed like an entire month and that was probably one of the best travel buddies for me. I like I didn't realize how much fun I would end up having with her because she was just crazy Restless all the time Austin who want to do, you know keep doing, you know, like something or the other every time and I was a, one doing all the planning and you know, going all the floor and pacifying also we were almost like yin and yang. So yeah. Yep. Having that sort of you know helping the crazy one and me being the sort of like go with be organized and in like stuff like that. So yeah, so I think we may like she made a good travel partner for me another good shower partner for me hath me land Ki is the fish house for WWE in India, and we also happen to be smooth friends and I love traveling with her because there is never a dull moment doing any sort of crazy work travels with her off right from you know places like a Varanasi to Amritsar to go into New York any place just just for me just slides up because she's there and work is not as stressful when she's around and like we also make up when we work together. So yeah, and although I haven't gotten too many opportunities to travel with my boyfriend, of course twenty twenties ruined a lot of our vegetable plants. I'm really looking forward to doing thoughts more travelling with him, hopefully in the next year. Apart from this. Is there any life lessons that you've learned in your travel? It could be a very small trip like you mentioned to buy them and see only been to New York because of you know, the different travels that you've done anything that you're speaking away from any sort of travel that you've done in in the past couple of years understand this year is not the travel your input but in the past and if you want to go for what would be your next, you know. Like since you mentioned about solo travel what I'm going to say, and I know this whole sort of thing about solos, I will also one of the most important lessons I would say is not even before talking bird solo challenges talking travel in general most important lesson is at don't worry about money in your twenties and early thirties aggressively grab every opportunity that you get to travel be it for work or just you know, possibly exploding it may feel like too much in the moment, but nothing makes for a better memories than disconnecting from your daily environment and placing ourselves. Hold off. Sort of environment. Yeah, and then coming to solo travel this whole idea about travelling alone to find yourself sounds very clean shape because it's just like so much. People are just talk so much about it, but I'll break it down. The reason you should do solo travel is because when we are in our normal day-to-day we are constantly trying to be someone depending on who it is around us being friends family colleagues. You get used to being a certain way with them for months and years not realizing. Who would you actually be when you are with a complete stranger? I Have a Dream City Auto country hidden parts of your personality that you didn't even know existed suddenly start to show up when you are not in your daily day-to-day environment. So it is important to get off that side of you and that is quite liberating. So it's okay to start with, you know with one person but have that sort of find a way to sort of cut your daily things that are like a thing off. Pieces that are a part for daily part of your life and just yourself in a completely unknown scary different place and then see how you react to those sort of environments and that's when you don't often find yourself as as people call it. Great. I want to know because you've traveled solo you've traveled with friends. But what are you most painful poison? Is there anything that you bring your travel to realize that life in Mumbai is so much better life in America wage is anything that you are really grateful for with all of the experiences that you had specifically since you're asked about getting plateful for the place. I would just say that I have traveled to so many places. I mean like since I Was Eighteen have been travelling and safe to say that I have covered a lot of countries a lot of places but I have always felt homesick and I and I've always want want to come back to Mumbai like even fast been and like I think in 20 2011 our travel to London, I stayed there for almost a month and was my cousin's birthday wedding. So although London is a as a beautiful place to be in I like never for a moment. I thought I don't want to go back home or this is it like, you know, this is Rafael sad to like go back home. No matter where I buy almond what what what part of the world like home is home for me and I've always felt like beyond the month. I have not been able to stay around anywhere. Even when I was at University when I was a powered off to spend consistently three or four months there at times six months at a time. But yeah, I have always longed to come back home. And I think that's I'm grateful for the fact that the fiber place like combined makes me feel like that no matter what people keep talking about how how crazy and this entire city is I think I'm very grateful for the fact that I have found a grounding in the city and no other place matches up to it. And you know, this this is my home. We will be for like for the longest time and the other thing that I'm really grateful for is that I've been raised by a single mother. She didn't try to stop me from taking any sort of wild drives right since I was you know, since I Was Eighteen and I started traveling that is probably what made me so strong and fearless and doing anything that my mind could possibly conceive. It is very easy for for like for parents job. Especially for a single parent to like become so protective that you know, they just sort of stop you from like like with the you know with the favor of you know what they're going to be okay or not, but she just almost like encouraged me to have these experiences. I'm exposing myself to all of this. So I think that's another thing that I'm very grateful for. Google Johnny I loved your take on how you want to go and conquer the world even with all the hustle and bustle and why you still love and I'm even I'm very grateful for living in a place like this because when I go and travel how difficult it is for them even to get a bus to school or they have to walk, you know Minister Explorer and for us all of this was so easy to do another stuff like that. But because you are, you know, very into the digital strategies part of things. What do you think is, you know, the future of social media and the trends that you can see and the next big thing on the internet since we're discussing travel. I'm going to say that you can't ignore that social media has been an absolute game-changer in the tourism industry. It's been massively influencing people's decision when it comes to picking a travel destination shouldn't be it. You know, what your posts of their friends traveling the dark place or country. I remember when I was in Finland and when one of my friends saw my pictures opposing with these home He's you know at the objects Circle she immediately and I kid you not immediately booked our trip for the next month's to travel to Finland because that's how much she fell in love with all the experiences that I was having and you know the stuff that I was talking about on my social media. So that's the power of social media and the supporters statistic had just come across is that almost 86,000 of people said that they you know, just a specific location after seeing content from there are some other people and I mean stuff that impacts right from decisions of like which hotel or Resort they need to see in when traveling sometimes we like that certain locations and posts or use a hashtag or something and it's being subconsciously noticed. So it's almost like a huge chunk of your life, you know following that actually are getting influenced whether you know, whether you don't so yeah and and because of that you're going to see the tourism business, so including hotels and tourist spots and even a ninja A country having social media accounts promoting themselves as the best place to visit and seriously considering people with huge social media following to promote them to tag them and make it thought of mouth thing. So it is a very simple strategy but whoever have been the early adopters of this have benefited in unimaginable ways. And I'm also going to say that travel has always been worse if you think about it from like, you know before you and social media existed travel has been so sure not to Simply travelling with friends and family, but sharing our entire travel experiences with others, but like before social, you know, we had organized photo albums and slideshows. We would want to show it to our friends. Now that have been replaced by blogs and Instagram posts and all that. But like I said, like, you know, the heart of it is always been a social experience you want to talk about it, you know, you like you want to tell people about it social media has this made it easy to do that. So I think it's going to continue and it is only going to get bigger and off. Means that we have this it is beyond our thinking capacity at this point. You never know how it is going to shape up in the future. But yeah, I think travel and social media are never going to be separate from each other off. Thank you so much for you know, taking out the time speaking to me about the workshops that you did on your travel and you know, how you feel that even travel. You cannot be like a one-size-fits-all. I'm definitely want to use your final tape on, you know, getting more tags in place and also making sure that the community of benefits in the long run. So I ran off a website is also blocked that you don't helps other people read about other people's tablet. So it's not only about me and might have it. It's about anybody's travel. Thank you. I'm glad we had a great discussion and I'm very happy for how your your platform Starship up and I look forward to all the exciting things that you're going to be doing with that. This podcast is brought to you by Backpacker me Instagram handle at Backpacker me follow share.
How to get featured in a travel Magazine - Rishab Tripathy
"Hello and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing the act a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas. Each podcast believe you educated and leave you with a unique life lesson. Than The act? Wanted on how to get featured in travel magazine I've got you covered. The. issue. Disrupted by. Each other Tabacum foot. From, Odessa this guy is your Niba. First of all. And from Lisa currently I'm working in a rendering of. Solve Base Fun. But during weekends I, love to travel a lot. Left to take different types of for especially landscapes. So that gives me a huge motivation to get to work office also during the week and I can explore new places given that you are a feature. Can You Take us through the journey of how it started and how have you managed to of. Obligations like that community outlook. Basically initially started as a small project coming lick us to take some photos and posted and sometimes I used to get Jordan small sites. A great deal for me so After that I just tried focused on increasing the quality of the photos and up four to one photo every day. So after some time I started getting recognition op site and magazines. Featured Dr Tweets and. Then once we get a phone feature so basically, it started with you putting out more content and bagging those people, and that's how you grow and also increasing the quality of content. So in terms of quality when we're talking about a photo quality, what do you mean by equality of photo? Basically, it means a minimal amount of editing. The lowest amount of editing is the more natural and we can make to the audience and also the framing and the confessional devoto how it looks the perspective of it. What metrics Get this passion you call like passion project or your. What is it Lake Link the Cup of these in remote villages or wherever you plan to take them? What is your car behind doing the van to the forest to the mound and I was it like a new? Light. Now, if you look at it, is like a passion for me, because as I said. This alternative elaborate now but in the future if I getting schoolbooks. I would. Really love it. took. Action need one of the priorities that have future but only I can tell what will happen. So I don't have any plans. Stopping here I'm still continuing beat whatever feel I am and always be consistent auto my late right now and guarding your second question. The motivation that I get from Bloomberg differently assist is that I want to see something new every time and also and be able to show it to my audience. Bill Division that I have. conveyed the against. Travel. For thirteen centers, very large and wide spectrum of things. Can you share some simple tips or someone who's just starting out maybe as foreign and professional camera like you? Some tips that everybody could use as a photographer. One of the best sideways I can give to. Landscape Photographs I. Try to avoid the more touristy areas as much as possible and just go explored the unexplored and that will put put them into new. Light. So they will. Grab your attention. Because they will be. Projecting something I haven't seen it. So can you tell me more about how long have you been doing this out currently Eunice started? How it? How did this whole Eto you Wayne. How did this all begin? Pastathon from the beginning this loved traveling and exploring new places but I think kept controlling and God's addition if as you're traveling so much don't try out for he has a initially I was not interested in, but once I hold off. Camera. Went. I saw quite interesting. So why don't you try one saints? Doctor who? Wonder well for me so I. Can you tell us how a Person can start what is it would be sick camera at one can by will start elsewhere and then what you currently using I have. My Camera Two Seven zero zero. But we started with a Nikon Mitri full the which which is that. The Model Camera I think some newer models have come off now as well. Three five, zero, zero something that has now. For the big that that'll be the perfect one because what matters in photograph. Is More inclined toward the lengths that will using rather than the body. The body is definitely responsible for the quality, but it is a bit more than plain towards the length agreed using the quality of the land. So I think they should beginning. With bigger body and they invest a bit more with the lenses as the and with what does the red lines that you currently use My favorite lenses that entered. Away Dangle. Because it really helps me gets an. Optional Berea. Again desert-like cost the ball or is it cheaper? Someone afforded the bigness level actually in that case? In skiffle to those different prices thing there are beginner level and professional level lenses with which are having a very good opportunity but. was also beginning level. We J. Watt footprint. But it can increase the ninety depends on the budget and. Looking to get into. By then one of our. started the solo travel with friends. What does that experience like? I loved. Because one of the main things that they get combative independent and the freedom that comes with solar. And we we're not going anywhere and we can do whatever we want. So that is the main point like I focus link Solo. One of the main motivation handed. And but sometimes, transload is a whole different experience. and. Talents. Friend excluded I. Recommend to everyone that Bishop at lift one. So you Tavlin Solo does Andrew Joe Soul, and has it changed you as a person like what was your fostered indefinitely Jamie as a person because competed Mangini adding I was staying at my parents house. So doing that I could not do anything I was dependent on everyone wants to rent for job I started. Off of that, I learned that. I can say I have become really independent. Someone some. Distinct can utilize. Some cases would just also that our still spirit home and make that fostered winter yes sure. There are many places many wish in. We can. Do. Special. Copy last coconut beat connecting. CONAL beach but I would say like first of all, I think we should go to those places get a scope of the. Plays, how would be how does it feel after that? We can move on to lesser known places, but initially they sort they should stick to the place already know. Okay. So basically, a cycle transition from an easy to a place where you are not comfortable audio jarred mortals can you? Some some of these jobs lake now that we understood that you have gone around and visiting places which I forced dudas St Indonesia, and then you hold. People don't really like. I honestly as about in terms of how different it was something that you should be careful in your. Yeah deflation which are more tourists they will all be crowded and only one of them is that can happen to. Pickpocketing so major point the lookout for traveling through a look I'll get paid. And once they are going to lecture known pieces. Then they can have their own freedom, but they should be careful always talk about mishaps happening in remote related or a remote forest. What are the things that you think would happen actually I haven't haven- any such mature Musab still. I might not has well qualified to answer that question. But in case there have facing any problems remote. Maybe should be familiar with the local language so that they can at least Oscar health to local people. So language think is. Happening to remote areas where maybe you could know the language suppose you know it. What are the means of communicating Ben has it happened like you've gone to a place where they don't understand English they don't understand what have you done that how is communication in case over that? Entries with such traditions. I generally depend on Google translate or else I make a call one of my friends who can act as a translator for me but if that. Doesn't work. In language. Is Sign Language always win. Now. Then reminder a how you've been going chaplain how you? Established just. Traveled for over the phone and. How do you progress to the next level of becoming a full time Dallas? The thing that depends on being full time travel photograph, it requires a lot of investment. Lincoln? Will be spending money and. We. Supposedly traveling to some snowy, places spin. Gear might not. To. That that. About the of investment. Allies but how important you see planning your tape and how do you plan your trips is Or special methods of planning. Yeah don't only planning. During trip is that the place place during razor sunset because that is what matters the most of Nothing else matters. Basically you travel your travel plans are. According to the time sets the golden light. Endings. I do instagram handling. So people can actually view create for graphs. You've all taken I mean to not complementary in saying. That, you ought to. One of the best I have seen at least but it's really a pleasure to talk to you and understand you have gotten out of your Shell and made it. Who Goes Solo towards and make most of Emmanuel you're known dine with such great photograph a mutual instagram. Handle. And anybody wants to ask you for any. Bake and eat you. Hostile, big tanker Kevin from the show is. Coming to my instead handle, they can search. Party or else might use that I need underscored. One S. H. Under. So that is maintenance. Post all. Photos and stuff and. gumming advice that I would like to give to people who are coming into the line of Lance gift. By. Default. They have to take him the timing the golden hour like you said. The second and the most important thing is whatever happened to Elizabeth. Careful. Because they have step out of the zone. Safety must be. Okay. And so I think all the biding photographers daddy if you want do ratio. To find him and also in and more importantly statement now. Let me know if you found this episode insightful I think we've got a few dips some light on how pitchers the right way why challenges us of course in and make Su- discovered you I hope you liked it state you I've got some stories to share. This podcast is brought to you by backpack me instagram handle at tobacco back at me. Follow. Share.
A journey within - Ruturaj Phope
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You start believing in yourself after a Trek in Kashmir - Aakash Singh
"Hello, and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing the act a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas. Each podcast believe you. And leave you with a unique life lesson. Welcome to Balancing Act. So we spoke to show about his travels and his passion for photography to going to speak to not only the end of mine, but also Boston that Bob. Miller. lite. Gosh. Thank you so much for having me I this is. This is my voice might. You Be Reduced? Nicholas? How his life as. Like most of the people want to be interested in knowing you don't get that. headcorn. So you know O.`Neil. People listening at the moment can you tell us more about USA and you know how this development are and how you either manually sort? Of. Attain that I wanted to do it just came along like I. I was in building in one of the stations so I have. No why lakes I come to se geographic muster their magic. Because, I hadn't done in. Up Late Digital Agency and you know marketing. And Rita was one of them was like. Nine hundred guard Duma that thirty stuff So I would like. ME. It. was just I was at the right time at the right list. So it was luck must island podcast is about balanced life and so can you tell me about your favorite expedience by traveling I think traveling is the best thing I've rented link Lake. Now and my favorite has been no Kashmira. Gordon. Just Sounded one of my favorite pieces other than that I wanted to east willfully bill or in these are my app you will be rich. I WanNa tell you about my crush muted. Iran to cash need for A. And I was in most lies Asian. Basically eight days of. Mountains. So Day one I assault God by people I saw shot and we started blaming a mountain or nine ninety I came out from the other. Music Eight, nine lead to Oughta Post that. Nothing is you have to cam you have to make your food. Joe By juicy data Benita Way. One on the how? Was It on your? This javelin for seven days where you prepared. For. You to endure Being. Anyone can do it, but before go for. I think one Monday have to train them with you can go unfort- you go as. Recognize. We'll do piloting anybody you have to make so late basics. What particular start running poetry. Gaming steps south Monday governing it. They been round model Bagman with whatever books loose own model because you'll be sending moment some days you'll be sending lake. I thought. That some busy will be descending. Entertaining is worst. So. Yeah. You have to implement but it's not like it's impossible the other things that you. Or? Taking. On another game. Travel. Build. Them Looking. To interest. But. In Corona towards. Potential CACAK were. that. you. Start realizing potential. Charlie Adamson. Group we. Allow you to push up. So you start experiencing new thing basically US intensity of everything. Bag could not long after. I started believing in myself. Leeann I thought I could never try it. Not It was. US imprint. engelman. But after. leaving. which we. I Love I, love cooking, and. I totally regional food always all. I knew was. Bigger. Because we wanted to experience original was on. It. was. Ten big moment so were it was something waiting for someone and seeing out they made being the culture You don't exist. Is this an absorbed something new. I would like to understand from Yogi. You know when you hide this wise one dishes do this was like of big spread for? Extremely heavy So one was amazing why you know because they. Eight different types of meat dishes. Martiniere year ribs. Chicken year you're white. You're white. But I realized limited by BILL WE'LL SEE to start. We can kinda. Doctor Seeing never embracing. Rocket Payment is this. Beloved So law. Like the the. Grass. Genus while. Getting another ten this to much. diabled escape. 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Can you tell me three things that you have learned from your travels that has made you a different person has made you achieve your off getting too long vacation and few someone. In your work life, how are you doing it and how you land these twenty dollars? Make. Sure. You're buying your tickets. As early as possible I got my Kashmir good. So and even though you knew Charlie Pellett. One Way. So you have to make sure. Ought to. Get a good. Made that name. I know I started cheeky. Cuddling I'm Pretty Sean figure out an again but you know you have to plan by this. Monaco Chevy's Chevy. Group. Conway to mark. Alias. The best save money is going to north. Carolina. SCHMEAD. Eastern Idaho. As. A joiner taking good. So I will, Mike Schmidt wasn't thousand wounded. I'm. Not Getting eight thousand flight. And thousand rupees was my. Sport. But these. And because I was in. Place I couldn't buy anything I renew shopping. Nothing. The lahser Nike Motor break I stayed one night in that go. Jewish me Must. To Kashmir. Women. You Planning. Based on what I've learned, Brahmins. It has opened me up. I am usually goose was. In. Now that'd be the idea but because of Me because when I'm traveling I to print. You're always you know the time already Miami reports. Does. So whenever I came back from traveling. I gave award winning ideas in my. Youth Radio's I was. To come back and I would like open to like becoming a Lamia an amazing game out. And finally they won awards also so. I realize. You're eighty eight your mind opens up who ideas and you start thinking. You start looking at something different perspective. So that was what I think, but I will do and. Experienced the story stay you subsidies. Let me. So I, like I like collecting stories also. Doing, something to thank you for sharing your tips on Pavel and how you do it and how you become an award-winning host of shoes. Finally I want you know is people want to reach out to you to see the pictures that you have clicked I. Knew I will put them up on my show. But I also want them to follow you because you are very large. Expand. Your Instagram I. Envy. Open, to that. Are you cannot just. Relate. Akash thing one, eight, eight, zero. You'll find me just you scroll down see mountain. Or comic timing was. So. Yeah. You can follow me there anything. But anything you know if you're. Planning. So I can help you all. Thank you are gosh. This is a casual game while you by giving us tips on how route travel, how to stay safe and killing it life. Thank you so much. This podcast is brought to you by backpack me instagram handle at back back at me. Follow share.
Africa's best kept secret- Shaun Dsouza | Ep. #8
"Hello and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing, act a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas. Each podcast believe you. And leave you with a unique life lesson. Hey guys. Hope you're loving and killing life in the previous episode. I gave you a reason hacked on how you can hundred percent see the northern lights. Thanks to. Today I. Think you story from another adventure would surprise you with Johnny he'd guarantee walks on schedule special events at the bombing guaranteed Hi Sean. I. I'm doing well today Sean saw because this is the pandemic and you know we're talking during the pandemic I want you to tell us on how you land up where you are today. So I think it goes back to. Make me following my passion. So I figure that. Staying outdoors and being in the outdoors is something that I really like. So I started my own company back in fifteen goal the wilderness project. We used to take a bunch of people. For Jacks and different camps in around Murad show now like it was for the people and me. And we just kept going next lowering noodles in in. No. More days of Macho. and. My journey began. That's what I knew that. Hey I I to do more of this kind of. Wanting to stay in the same lake joined another startup called. Why? I learned a lot more about the global industry and especially the things that I wanted to look was started in front of me. So I started doing a bunch of bags and join them in the band camp series that dog nights every weekend so. Again, a new world. Opened up to me that. There was learning and every time I realized how much? I actually like being out goes on with that also meeting New People every weekend you don't really get that experience. Let people. Knew. Get Away with my job. I was dropbox. The adventure. Sixty. So I joined. The and understanding Fan. And stock. To Niagara Onto Neko. Amigo. Industry. In the devil feel. Good News Daniel. I was just started to do anything and everything. So I was just given like an open book and. Whatever you want in this book so With different events in the city now again from. Being in the outdoors. Camping and digging it now expanded to. STARTED, exploring the seat had ceiling cycling and a bunch of other things that I just. Made it happen. Among activity is what was your favorite sort of activity which you enjoy people more importantly enjoyed by you I think I. Choose of favorite. Because I think. Each. One handed to one thing they don't stretching for me. The best part was the people coming experiencing. And? Going back home. Owning something new from what he actually came onto. Game on today you know so. Even something as small as Laker headed your. Snakes so much of his in the city that you do on. Julia where and. Many are going to another country as opposed thing you WANNA. Do it I go and learn about the history on. But if you think if you look back in your own country in your own city so much in your backyard. Vida surprises for that peabody. What do you think was your surprise in life? Of course, there are multiple places, but one of the things that's like how you make certain decisions and just land up somewhere for me. It was all about like I never thought too much about doing. Thankful needles just follow your Heart in whatever you WANNA do right. What makes you happy just go and that and I landed in Africa like it was. The death is Canadian. Even when I was there in Africa had this one woman this one day when I was just like had I not tool in this particular field or followed this particular part. Do. Anything ends. I wouldn't really be your in this moment experiencing. That's so. I mean, it's crazy. It continues to surprise me that we honest. So tell us more about what your Africa expedience was, what the reps flood for this and you know how this indicating unveiled to you like this is the surprised I'm thinking of it so. It. was too late in the sense I would be joining another set of people in Africa who have never met before and. This is something I've never done. This was my full solo type. Let's go. Between India and Africa. I know they are very different than some other minds from Jeddah in fact. Any similarities because you've done a lot of India and. Africa on soil. So what does the experience like I didn't? I think one of the biggest. Battles that I saw was like you know who see the ball like I was on Indiapol-. Taxi Guy who would drop into the hotel open up like quite a lot of me about his life and how he's struggling everyday and why he had to take up this job and to be honest I felt really bad because I'm like I know what you're going through the same thing happens back in. India so. On the same but like that that was one bit and then it's Like. You said like the say organized back in Monastir used to do these. Dues in the Damore days and Marsha on these. Again, do something like wildly are you. Botany painting. Out On clothing and a bunch of other things will be too expedience. What else Moore life is just have one rule life because one thing you'll notice is people are actually happy late do not. They're not sad in enjoy themselves even when you visit them, they'll continuously. BIGGEST PATTERNS I see in after A. While was still. The even type people in Africa. Similar the lifestyle so similar. From everything like. The Painting Messiah People Have Different depending of Yeah we have like the volley ending the place that they live in. They have gone through it again similar who again, a bunch of America so I saw laurels. Managed. In Messiah villages if that makes sense. Because it's so similar how they live their life and again even there they're happy. Not want more they do not. Happy with what they have and. That's what I saw a lot. This mix of culture. It's like every holiday experienced and I'm seeing it again in another country which was created. So the Ford was anything, but it would that I know everybody that I go to our this trying to what I'm sure when you went over there, this would be about expedience a fan you fool. Me At all is there something special in Africa that get over your? Maybe there is something exclusive to Africa that you can't ever get an indie album better. The actually loved the parties if you. Can. People. Like good food. To just they will have it all you name it and it's there. So even the. bobbies used to get that every night you know almost the united like as an option and. Nate my group wouldn't be surprised with this new team party. What is this community? It's my people. Back home, but I think a lot of things are fairly similar of those. I had the. been landed I had lunch. Link. Local launch basically it was. Now that is that they have also is a sticky rice to what we have is just like the loser but the they make it sticky the gravy. So you need to be on his to days and then have it. So. Trump forty even should. Be always like it still. Need. That I went to the Banjul bill that I saw the abuse roles inspired. Animals out there where you had. You had. An elephant you had lepoard achieved dollars or a bunch of bills. Then we also went to flee so when we walk We went placement brewing, these kind of bills and regarded. Our staying. Out of race and is it was beautiful lake some kind of experience spoken about the body is there anything? Did you witness a fight over there? WAS IT special? What was it and you tell me about survivor experience you want. Ese. The Safadi actually was honestly my foolish big body. Me I've gone one or two days before insecure but you know you can't really see any. The animals are so scared of you. But out there in Africa when you go for. You will see the defense of how content animals are in their own natural element like new. Can you see them that? Whether you go to zoo or a you know. A sanctuary where they have them contain. been not be the same than what you see it began for me. This was might fullest big Africa Safadi. So I was. Like while since day one because all you have to. Be You have to get into the one stand up the land opened up. So you just have to stand up and just walk. Anything that moves is something like we will always on the look. Anything that moved and I think even grew on Banjo runs just kept finding. We were on a C. extreme. Sports and Animal sports analysts today, and we would Tang that both of at the end of it. So it was beautiful. Just being there experiencing and and it's sober Austin huge. They is just beyond. Anything that moves even like if gras moves, you're likely there's something there. But then you find in more stands but I think it was one of the expedience. If. You have a Johnston Safadi I'd say just. Don't think twice about it. Is there anything like night? Of. The day but is there a night? Of Illicit Liberal because I've seen a couple of packages that go to Africa that is something mentioned specifically about the Knights of. Go. Did you witness it a? Body because. The diamond the night would completely. So. Yes actually. Happened around ten. At night. To. The. From. Cambodia and then me go to reenter the body. The national pastime. Now. Have they. Give you to. Renewal with a gun who's debt? There's A. Who Sits on the Bonnet of the with a light. Spot. The dial. And that is. That's In this in this one jeep. So there's no other protection like if anything happens this is. The gone away anything I. Love Ego John to sit down the windows. Any with a truck who's pretty much open. So there's no there were no doors or anything, but I go to sitting on the window seat at. The football game like you said, is completely different at night. It I mean it's it's a different world altogether. The. Is One thing and then we have the nocturnal animals coming out at night and it's Going to see them today at. All right. So the night. Let's see them and it was it was quite sketti for me. But I actually managed to get to see. A couple of leopards on the bottom. Jeep Lake. Right on the first. Couple of. Levels walking. All we I I also saw a bunch of. Hyenas. Something some remains of some animal, which was unlike a bunch of them and. Not At offs are. Just. Like Shit, it's coming out of his mouth. Because it's downstairs but. that. We. Also saw a bunch of pause. Because he was on the only animal that. Owning the entire day, they'll be in the water and only wanted stock. They started coming out on land in search of food and everything. Was No moonlight also make this. So it was just the spot and everywhere his is squad. Man, we had to just follow. Just going on and it's Been Experience I. Think you've been doing this for like something just putting things and then maybe we saw a bunch of up I saw an elephant and it's baby also I think though mother elephant God forbid. Scared and she they started charging. So I think. We actually know the sound of the. Off The elephants joining and all. are coming to us. Charles. Day what. You've even today. On threes and everything they. Had Done A. Pretty Sick Job I. think they give you need spotted quite things. and. I think one hell of an expedient that I'm begging back from that was this nine to forty. By And what life lessons like I understand where where I wherever I go I don't something from by something. What was your light from Africa? Honestly I. One of the main things that happened to me off the ship was I got on my meet Lake. In domes of eating. All of that in front of be buffalo is like water buffaloes. And they'll just to England boss and. A bunch of animals just happy in front of YOU I. Came Back Down from that. Of course alone it's cultural is alone Sony new things about. Not even while the group like the bringing culture from their own country and coming all. So I think one of the biggest back from that was like cutting down on. A Lot of people do change their lives up traveling and getting new. Life. I think it has been a nice Jack. Thank you for taking of the dime or telling me about your African adventure you making it and taking of getting into the whole thing four-lane your fashion i. think that's what many people do and I'm so glad that could have this musician I would like to get your instagram. Let people can reach out and see the. Shock beds. It's the Sean Ninety Five On instagram and thank you for doing this man I think. A lot of people. Listening to people's. Stories on. Wounded away. So a thank you for. Taking the by yourself to make. Happen This podcast is brought to you by backpack. INSTAGRAM. 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Dubai is for everyone - Meenakshi Iyer | Ep. #9
"Hello and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing, act a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas. Each podcast believe you educated and leave you with a unique life lesson hello and welcome to balancing the act today I am with Meenakshi iron whereas multiple feathers in a cap is a food critic journalist, a content producer communication I now. mcclatchy welcome Balancing Act. I Kevin Full could be on your show and I'm really excited to get her to. Do. I'm very happy to have a jaundiced on board. Let's begin with the job that you've been doing for thirteen years. Now being joined this can you tell us a little bit on how that was and how that unfolded? I when I was like Daniel Goldin fascinated with on news. In warden. Even as a young child, pretty good at expressing myself to. That that the that I wanted to be, and then I I did my graduation in mass media and then when my. Graduation in joining. And I thought it out as a business with joy then moved onto new. Midday and then into feature I. Would writing I've been in the on time. And speaking me. I will let you go here that Dr at. That pretty much been my Tony I'm now I can play grand on digital strategy and social. Media Know. Beyond people because I've been one of them who hound list. So what is your advice to them to light and this is will create takeaway for in this. To be honest. Teams have canes. I came into the shame. Now I remember all and donated all. They right on it I would get an email you. Offer. Is. So. Now that is. The Ion beyond community. Of the team and The. Todd socks be. Absolutely admire in the. All the by veteran man. To join a fiend Hamas. Of become a lot more professionally. So I think the advice I would give benches before you. and He. To. Bevy. Because This. Story. A lot of behind what happens get. Stories. That definitely may not look on the obligation that relies. On. The beat that. Doing that quickly, Shar definitely. And I really admire the bachelor. have an ideal day one and they bring back people you're generally the. I think you who you are and. Do that kind of idea but things are off the beaten track. Interesting from new show that I, it can also walk on then and then it's more of a collaborator. Being a journalist has some books utilize about what? What other big if there was any other job in the void that wouldn't get this? Pr Agent Orange. As. happened. In Your Nike, I think. That not. Yet. Antigen Detained me that defy TV will be you ought to know deck ask somebody who had who has not edge with a I thought. So that's the real society looks journalist. Detained. Back, Betty. Jobs the company it's five, five, five from that. Better a lot of. Yet that I called but I think it's because the both because honestly the isn't. Anything great definitely, not graveyard putting. But won't be folks that I enjoyed the at her food writer laws to be to. Tryout a older new. That are opening in. Bombie Not I would probably. Dole and. The Food Day and talk about it. So that was one of the globe that absolutely enjoyed I loved that quite a job. Do have shopping. Spandau. Exploring. The kind of even that people do. ANYTHING OPPORTUNITY TO TRAVEL I've. Away after call these. Thought of makeup. You don't get paid at all. A grid. So body traditions I'd always something that especially across origination have you any? Have you done any travels on your? On your body week mutual that'd be great plan and. Specially, set of all your family. Happening that should actually get in I have this but they edition that I've been thought Ebola typing type of. Well I make sure that I. On my birthday so. By. David My. By. Beating amid is. To is a big or high for me so I have. Seen the by the bat cavaliers. They look. Of Trulia and they all before that a lot of. The Nation could and something that they believe. Went. At the end are arguing my animosity toby locations I think they just make it easier for you to shut. And All this lynch down before the pandemic. By the that actually went to. Wind twice. I have good memories from from that relied to get off the bye tourism has. So I'm very happy to talk about. What can you bring back from the way I understand is one of the desert everybody likes. To get back into, is your take on this. Week a shopping destination and the relation that midst of. ood Augustyn find good budgets whether you want to spend like if Eli own. Can. Do that in a day in the box, we just hit a mall and you are now you not all your all designed it of exceedances there. You have Bonnie's you have all the ground you're gonNA. Get everything you've been just go crazy divine mall the other thing that people definitely do. A lot of gold shopping. Getting a tactic too extreme buck cheaper. And they. Knew. That the other thing For me I'm not shopaholic mechanical I think all my money is. Experiences and he? No good food implying distancing. The bad kind of several that I do since you're talking about the local food and local experiences that has. About what you actually did and what you experienced because we would want to know about special. Dried out in the. Hard like I said like the shopping even for eating you have every be that you can imagine. Would Do, I did. because. Most need giant. Experiences and local delicacy eating. The. Second part of my Moore's you know like Hoogland Julia there I've seen the JANETTA Beechwood. And a place for the day and we next. Time this. Involves to my chip. I. To a lot of. would. Get. Community. Bay So. Lean envy's Numidian especially bay call if I. Still be tried a lot of the local something in food that's available there for. Chocolate Venus there the Keitel's and coffee on a Sunday morning is like under two and for many be. Gone on Mitch's more of my would toy seafood Diani is extremely popular, and literally like the rented every stable had like one big mound off really and that that's what people eating over there. So that was really vendors please side. which is more of Endre die food. Everything one tally of bag. Feeding and so a box from Indian food. You also have a lot of Kettani Arabic food one can try. So we went to the. Bar and lobby the Gianetti popular for the Sharma he kind of of like job indoors and obituary chicken the cheat. Just mind blowing. I don't think I've had back kind of food anywhere in India and. If you want to try out of food that say. In charge I'll and the others. Run can shy Japanese above and let you Nobody popular. that many old restaurant legal they also specialize in Indian. Ayurvedic. Food and they're very unease early. kebabs excellent. The also did a little bit of my that'd be more friendly. That I was talking about also did some off high-end expedience. We tried out the food action, which is the in in in Bombay. Outfit. Back, then and So that, whatever it is that you want to do you. Click. On the eighth of May off saying and around date and there are. Guys. that. Are available freely due to the right places. So. There's so much food that you've spoken about hundred now and what other Ford dissolved like I'm I'm a desert wasn't to be honest I am not a big deal faculty to be honest by you can try things like the police say that will be like that are a lot of these date the. Date is of any big part of the culture in the by. Somebody's House Nevada commuted date. Switched Reddish in there and a lot of people even the dutifully use a lot of. These that. Obviously being back home your loved ones. Those are some things that I try to go. So, because Dubai is relief on everybody like muscle, how would it be below an end and then you interact with anybody most of the drivers that I spoke to when I was in the Indian hawks and he's been. there. Are you see of then? Move Pc. Indians because that makes up a large. Section of operation there under local. Have Been. For Yours. Don't really like ledger out today add. Local for the Tudor TV's. On the Bill I. would. Gone anywhere very different because it feels like it's like a mini India because you thought a lot of Indians and Pakistanis, we all the the novel by Monday. She's Lebanese people at were so in by everybody's. Head coach. You need. needed. It's not A. Big. Told getting on. Very. Many. Things can be used to. Gab and you won't. Leave gabby laying in bed day on that. Paul that you can use the. Kareem today popular there you can do Gavitt play call both options they are. Actually the most. Ideal Tavern. Might be a bit. Yet, but it's easier. The buzzer metro line is just. Of the city to another. So even if you do take the metro, you'll have to late end up you'll end up taking gathers that. Easier is. Gab. An. BELLY THEY DO Get One. That's. By, truly truly a global. So that. The leafy expats, nine occasion vaccinate I. do by their home and in some parts of the city, you either Lebanese population by baseball. But Indian. and. Traveled to. May Be means the bydesign district. Only offices are so that how? Much can be lake your India. Any specific life lessons to take out from the by like I understand wherever I quite on something. That you learned from the by as as as they have the. Biggest Is told management in how? Is. Managed and Bed or no big. Functioning are emanating. Is, so clean. Number of people saying that. Everything is taken care of so better than our. Miracle Magnet. Feeder even in terms of the people there has no matter where you go. So I think these are some of the things that I. So thank you achieve for having the time on a Sunday afternoon to spend with me and enlightening me about by and digging me through your wonderful adventures with your husband by one of you bill to nosy Australia's NC yard images on instagram if you can help you with the handle. Angle all. He you FDU. People. And dragging on for. I'm more active on. INSTAGRAM. Naturally a lot of the highlights the different. Things Lawn my highlight, so you can check that out and. Actually go to follow in me and in more of the people that will be listening to this show. Thank you so much once again, have. Given. This podcast is brought to you by backpack Ni instagram handle at the back back at me. Follow.
Holy Forking in Vietnam- Angie Dsouza | Ep #17
"Hello and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing the act. A podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas each podcast leave you educated and leave you with a unique life lessons by the time with the augusta mod specialist. A marketing professional chef. So she's a lot of things in like. I think we should all listen more important piece. Something interesting to give to us this weekend. Thank you taking on the diamond being with us on balancing the act via new. Listen to you and the fourth question would like house like into challenging view. And how are you hustling out. That as a marketing chef. I'm calling thank you dome by marketing. Shepherd like the person. Who did i mean life is all about. I guess like a loses life more rate for me. I think the whole lot marketing executive by d. And by name so you can go wonder woman and probably mike tonight is diamond attention challenger face about that is not being able to give that hundred percent so yeah i think that that only challenging but i mean it's a hustle so i'm making as a little background in this on started a marketing professional a sheriff and now something to do with customer an invention say seven years ago. When i started out just moved out of getting college. I started walking actually a restaurant and i like those clean levin twelve hour shifts bump starting the with pick your meant of vegetables denting everything to ending the locking king up and doing the finance so i did like the overall marketing over there. Well and then. I like that. You know what. I had potential because people who actually came and said you know what india food is over. You know so you know what i want. You know what. I want those repeat customers and then i realized that i had that potential in me and i don't own show doing this thing for being the end and not having time to myself. It was the sneaking. I compete so i gave up. My bed strolled setting warm. And my bad what's gonna walk boost something just sitting at so. I applied for like joe amid mounting. And i said let's see how that boys. Because i wanted to go back to the books i just came out of it. I don't want to go tonight. Person me apply for job. And i got in so when i got in actually vicky amid like five friends in the second day because my of my boss i know. Finish my food because the people doing it for me for my friend are there. Nickens was actually my best. Now he pursued for this. You have to open your own thing. So i would make and i did it and i'm like okay. We have a nine to five job. I can come back. And then i can do this. I bowl men on male. And evening. So i think it's been so that's how it started with the name. Sounds thinking about how you came about the again. I was at one point by said. I'm going down in the tobacco king. My communication during that time. I was buying vegetables and tipped off the back of that game and stop of my love and i then been interesting. I came back home. And i'm with this was the day can be all good and bad with my good old focused so good. I was like a bad extreme. I'm just keep listening to me. Twenty nine being. Podcast talks about your life and i know that and doing this obviously wants to force aspirin to go somewhere and do what is your financial that you've taken up. And what have you enjoyed. Simba's before the bundle. So it's interesting osborne because in feb right before the town began. I actually rendall away. Long trip to we at now actually explored the entire country and it was done moist adventures. The most epic off my life air because it was all on my own experience and be because it's so much more lower than india. We oh a dollar. Bill was the best trip able to begin. Food was this. I think ford was the highlight of address and the flavors or so good. A commend everyone to go feeling again. What you did how they were so special. And it's anytime anybody who that one. We must visit so inspiring. So why was this island call. It clicked another wave from the vietnam island. And me feel there. And it's a small you can exploit in two days. It's it's fine again. The north of that island those small beach a white van beach the starfish beach. It's like subtraction. It was supposed to be day but then a lot of the whites those the they discovered. It's now it to subtracting so you go on that beach and on the shore. It's filled with these red and black fish. They're just on the show and influence the moore's food and a couple of things on that you could go there. There's this flooding restaurant you can you. Can you can even though water. Come that you can go swim and only then you don't need to let me get mine quebec though Starfish because he's got a pokey and be they may delegate so they'd bay and also not lift though You know style fish out of the water because they need the work and that's what they can advise people to do the four entering that beach but manda was stolen is and the second place in vietnam that you're literally enjoyed is not wrong. it's also really lost to. Who had the central part of the and we went on this. It's called funky monkey. The crew and i got to snorkel and swim for me. I have this weird field because i. i'm scared of shock this field so in the ocean. I'm okay the in the. Because i could see below the ocean is like okay. I cannot but i went In i swam and it but it was fine up to that and does junkin monkey cruise boat. We actually the neom says it. All your drinking dancing. You have the beeper offering this food on the cruise. You can swim the whole jump in the and whatever. It's the day out in motion bobbing and it was we get. We got to meet so many people and there were a lot of different and it was the best experiences are the experience and you can do it for how much they is. It very reasonably. Do i understand you. Millionaires money. yes how. How was this interesting enough. That was actually the tip. It towards the end of vietnam trip so the as game out so me and my friends bogging No no no make visits you spend down by one thousand five hundred. That in diet like that wounded had lake. It had alcohol. So because you talking. I call let me ask you some alcohol call. Now was it. A vietnamese bill. Was it though you know wine of as more to what was it. That stood out is like they are hot. Gobi offense they do not drink risky or make me do they. Drink a lot of in fact keeps called street so you go down and you have like different breweries. Different clubs only selling up on door. They have these local brewed on kills that they make in their house and they can do chinese arts and it's different. You have clump label. You have happened fever and it was amusing because we went up north and it was sold on there but that kinda heated the be awesome local via there. So we want hanoi. And you get this that you only get in hanoi and when you go to saigon riches what you meant you get a bill called saigon and it's available in tigard and it's so within slavery earlier legally and early nice and what about the other thing. I think he'd made in just me like yours. Particularly investments. can you tell us a little more about god. How much did you need to have. What was the experience. I understand his despite he'd be annoyed for the goal but other than that. Is there anything that you felt that it stands out. This is something that you've never had in india or never thought of before you just adding china have gone and how eastern you have the chemo. This is kinda like that. It's just their home. Made house go hall because it's up north in getting from up there and getting there really difficult. So it's make this thing which they make out of their homes available strings feingold and israeli nights and the thing that stood out for me is that they meted out of because up not is about south by being a new. Have this made out of rice. So a lot of the wine is flavored with say apple or flavoured with dried plums or any produce and use. That is growing up. Not that's what they make their alcohol just really good soups divine. Nine and everything. Now i want to know from everybody who comes on the podcast. I know lesson on life. So what is in. geez likeness. An what you think is something you learned in whatever you can move as more small learning but everyday if you learn after some years i think and overdose medicine and try everything not chicken. Alex pay everything. You have to have an expedient of everything in your lifetime. But don't make it a habit. Because i mean we don't really want that may belong your life right but you want that experience crucial number do it may be one of their own thing or their own business then one of phantom make money out of know their whole i think what they should they should always have a plan. B back up by showed back up of structuring. That if you want to take that one step you go to be prepared for failure because it's a bit and You have financial backup to fall back on you know so. That is my last number two to my life lessons. So i think we have your to now. We want you on this is to be about. Why does give going more than what are you going to get the gifts. And its applicability tool weston's okay you ask questions which isn't team So the holy fall off my blow turning by in actually on nineteenth of this month and we are having gone for five lucky renault. So whether you have to do is we have this happen. Both with a lot of brands crease. And bill okay for brands or in the Hamble you know now do is a bagpipe. Friends mckee's force the announcement forced on. Espn tag a lot of brands. Lake jackson collective. There's romney they make like had medical scores. There's fab sheen mas as long as the gone major. There's a lot that's happening in that hampers full. I guess people who participate. I think they should so box i think. Congratulations on your and thank you. For taking the time out speed. Nobody from will definitely do that. Our community community. I don't know how many people them live in bombay. But this is pick to let me put that out there. Spent so life. Lessons are the hassle is low and this is what we do and thank you so much by by this. Podcast is brought to you by backpack mean instagram. Handle at backpacking me follow.
Think Goa! Think Workcation- Unni Nambiar | Ep. #10
"Hello and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing, act a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas. Each podcast. Believe you. And leave you with a unique life lesson. Balancing. In the last episode is supposed to actually yet. The. Through The of mine. WHO'S He's operator code. Enthusiast and much more. We will learn what would you does how he does it and House to. Night so high. Balancing. act. And I said I'll be on balancing the act of you're doing then. I think he. has made a lot of different things in nicely. The podcast is about. Your work and I think we should start with your work where. oppy either by profession and I never really intended to be a copywriter by the I had actually my education done in science bag. I on the bottom of becoming an engineer but thank God that didn't happen and I stumbled upon creatives and filmmaking. That inspired me to write on lines which are short sentences, but which means life changing meaning to it. So. Actually. That is what got me into creative writing. But that's how I I started following again and I think I've done. that. Nor, just yard this jawline demonized. It started. Like you said, it's not just a job. It's about life is all about what you'd do other than work right. So if I'm being fred, I'd say that I am into my Roth like I would he must than song. But at the same, just be by head stabilized love going on on motorcycle rides and visiting different pieces and sold by. A to. Keeps Me Sane. Touch sites. Adventure. Euro by. People on their or tested Jack Onto. That's means finally. Adventure on by I think sampling and the one that is close to my heart would be by Solo that to get. Kosovo I took at La in the month of October two, thousand land on my Gideon do two hundred. It goes Mumbai get love. This happened in in the span off of seven days. Basically. The part of going Solo loved because I was eager seawater. Be By your sense. This I I had done rights with my friends that are close friends who I go on with Andy Gofundme. Estimation than stuff. I'd never really done anything aluminum in my life. So I, was like, no, this is the time and I came up with talk of let's. Look at line. See what it has to drive alone for Uproxx because they got on hundred kilometers solo from from being. Around? The. And I reached up on our own. So. That rundown manage to. Like I don't want. Kind of an achievement, but also had is own difficulties which obviously have stayed on have had we blew. Plan. Ahead the first thing actually the that my heart is my going one hundred kilometers will I be able to I? Think that's the question wherever you are in doubt that's the first question that comes in your hate make be able to do it but actually question is what made me made this journey successfully Tainting distinct it was kind of easy but as and when I got closer the date I started feeling with ancient undertaking the feeling getting on on my bike and going. To some far off that, you've never been before never I've never written for so long I'll have to look for places that I could like if there I need fuel stations on the road or do I need to carry something to read something happened with the bike does break down what do I need to so I had to like. Step back and follow up a lot of hit him. So the sending this to see if you know where all the undefeated. So if I face any big I can go and visit them sorts of traveling alone I got to take care of my own center right so I also had to collect medical frustrated kids so that in case if I meet with some accident or something I got to get off my head, I also had to list by emergency contact number you need something someone. So it was paid if against. Is a difficult by that. made it much more exciting. Everything that we do even out not. Switch planning at the end everything comes. Yakushi. Given everything. Everything in my life changed after that one specific right and that's one of these in by that wander I is ready to be made. Me realize the importance of life it started with the that it all the best part about that aveling riding, Solo. It makes you fall in love with your centers. You just have sent a list hundred, two hundred. Thousand. Kilometers that you're writing hereditary of waging. You have your own company. You don't have anyone else. Of course you make me you make you make sense. But then throughout the time you have who shocked accent. So, that one thing I think would stays with me is that that thought that when you understand what life is joining united shows on journey and do whatever makes you happy. So scared on the journey and yourself I just don't accept your seconds young lady best person you have in your life. So that's what changed the joint needed the me. These. Travel. I'm sure you must have. Music. So one was that name. Missing. You. Can You? Of the Moon. Tonight. I Love Eletronic Music. So I kept listening to different kinds of join us. I lose this sight. God's sake. No. Under this kid side then I was was listening to John Mad I duNno life those a. Member there was an advocate of join nail. Yeah I was thinking a long. Kind of grueling to the songs by writing because it was the smartandfinal. Awaiting. Definitely show you. have. To now that pandemic everybody's all scared and we don't think you. Have Nice is. Part of this issue that. We ought then how did It was pretty funny like the whole thing just happened just. We never really land. So what happened is titled. Talking, Carlin we went out of frustration like five months at home inside awards things went pretty difficult for me but for everyone in this again. So it was kind of getting into our head and we were not able concentrate on our work. We're not ever do stepped out onto. Like this, just inside the ones and that's nick it to us that if all beyond baby i. Get who stepped out his again the faces were pretty high up in Bombay and this fiction. So That's when the talk of taking your work. It's fucked up head and we got the news deck. Is Open and it's actually welcoming students to come. To come there and So we were like, why not to walk in? The profession that we are in I, think we just need an internet depending the. Internet you can definitely connect to anywhere anyone in the entire world so leaker idea was logistics in. And we were lucky got score. You elect guaranteed situated on staying at The low budget funded. Keeping. Experiment that definitely was a budget. Okay. Let me warn going all out. We don't have this in Gore but also at the same time, the knew that okay. Does lockdown happening in Gore. So we knew that Bush of the places like the. Novel is that usually was Would we shut up there? So then. Again, looking at top place with would give us the not just the state but also the. His neck bag. We would of this we avoid stepping out a lot of things instead we could just. Walk get meetings on time we were lucky and we got this. Displaced Oil. BELQASS. Which is owned by Susan and the in. Daughter couple and they would do entertain like they. They actually sent most of their stuff back where they've come from the just have to look around. The end shot. And also there to take care of it's like a Portuguese style will and spillage through the. Beach, it's two minutes away from Owerri Zuhdi. Which I visit on a daily basis like I forget lost with rock I take this off it up break. I go to the cliff, watch the sunset and I'm back to this fashioned. So the budget, what budget we had was around the cookie four months that's thirty colors in. But again now that Nick when evil planning on coming to grow up kind of thing like they had their own distiction distinctions doing the scheme. But now that go is open for all the office. The prizes again have started going up this looney on the shacks kind of opened up. opened. Then you know hotels have started to accept people. So again, if you're planning some better town this month or somewhere next fun I, think you have budget should be on traditional for the including the but it's again. It depends from places to places and also absent contact that we really good to get to get a really good price. Did your story and you're. The one. Getting by become. So how how I usually spend my day my week up around. Six thirty seven I go. To The beach, I said deb leave the dogs to come back I. Get my breakthrough saw. Thanks to the delicious. Away of he gets we like fried eggs speaking and. By Nine thirty my breakfast and upload is start by. By one o'clock needed. So mean Nice, Nice, Fried Calamari with Rice obviously and then that that's followed by like evening I'll I'll be sipping on some years 'cause I've been gone so why not? No Evening, is time for. Talks and stuff. So why not get some field and evening goes to the cliffs spent like An. Watch what to sunset said come back, Finish off book world, and then at night we decided to step out or no, but there are. Mrs Open, and so we we step out to unwind. Locations did you. Before you square do go. On go as like the peace. Initially I date is I wanted to know still that all we could go water. But since during the panic, most of the speechless shock on that, he got to know that has opened up but at the same time when he got the news that is. That, just like us, they might be a lot of other people who might be planning. We were kind of afraid that will give you don't want to again get out of College Bombay and then again move who. Go. So we were actually looking at Hibachi like. Manali or basis in law Mrs in Boca now but unfortunately, all these were shot. So we be finding me down to go up as I. Move Up. And make an hour long. As long as it's possible is see Newton to the. It will have bought the connectivity. So I think you can get work done. I've seen I. See my my Walk My. He has definitely improved who what was back in Bromley. Is logged on again. Makes you self sufficient it? What what what? What goes by I think if you have the connectivity and of the flames. And the mind probably if you are the fool at your definitely you and get things. So I would encourage all the forms to support wealth. Rome. Because believe me it gets done rather than use spending is sitting in office. Books. What did the Vanderbilt? License who think Hispanic. At. The beginning of this pandemic Stein of negative as funeral why this thing is happening you have to do everything on your own leg your too much into the gate got. Are. As in when you know the one kept on, fussing by I started to realize that this is our life lesson. This phantom like his. Eating. You do we self-sufficient is actually making you believe that you are capable of doing every damn thing and you don't have to depend on someone or someone. Shuping the fluid or buying groceries are picking up some things fixing things that. You can do it just that you have to find myself in your mind. Mind and I think once you do it, everything is just easy. So this GonNa make has. been up for me. I go to exclude a lot of things where I never thought I could do but now I probably. Into that I can do that. Back so much. Susan. It's me on night. Thank you so much giving me this. Opportunity Khrushchev I. Think could be of the when she. Individually. That exist don't. Exist in. This and I think stories like this millions of people to do more stuff than they. Really. Thought? They. Bud Light. This podcast is brought to you by backpack a knee instagram handle at back me follow share.
Rajasthan will never lose its charm! Dhaval Doshi| Ep. #11
"Hello and welcome to everybody listening. This is balancing, act a podcast that focuses on how you manage your job and make sure you travel in this podcast. You will hear stories from people who were willing to take a leap of faith and believe in their ideas. Each podcast believe you? and. Leave you with a unique life lesson. Well, come through balancing act in the last episode I spoke or need to recuse. Especially guest though she walks nobody got, yes. One a marketing professional independent leader and to a teacher of leadership in Marketing Dean schools currently heads digital friend of Goal Jim India off high. Noah. Thank you for taking out your diamond speaking to each day Thanksgiving pleasure to be your. Profession. You have to utilize how you need this Bob and how it is today for you in this lockdown in this pandemic. Charlotte. So he kind of you to say that, I have two professions but the reality is that. I, see them as to vocations that that I'm very passionate about via have done my Mba from an university and I have a BS degree I also have a diploma in Cyber. The reality is that I believe we are all educated rather but underqualified. So I have always been excited about digital space since I was. Of sorts if you're in the Boston's Institute is a institute which competed with an idea and actually. The member. From there on whatever it excited me was around that space violated my. The violated my marketing goes little more late means to an end at the end of being doing something exciting a domain that that's evolving and I think that's how I think that's where my passion comes from to say that I'm not only interested in implementing new things every day whether it's digital marketing take e commerce but I think my other locations of beating House Miki. Abreast that. So every time they take on an assignment that allows me who expose myself to subject area whether it's dealership marketing art digital. It's always been a new audience I have trained in work with entrepreneurs with startups I, continue to do that, and also with seasoned professionals with fifteen twenty, eighteen years of expedient, and in that context I think one is feeding into the other the more I practiced the more I learn the more I teach them what I learned and it works both ways. In fact, it's interesting that I can drop Allen Zero where I've hired people from courses like cried where people are actually done the goals that are now have people from there for my practice career whether. Digital Marketing head somewhere I'm ahead of digital writing are more with it. I am working as a freelancer on on a project so. Doesn't gap how do you success and how'd you told Your Life as successful? As a Gujarati, by Heart Money Blazers, very key role in my life. And as as you might have figured that when you have so many other expedience and you have to follow careers, it oftentimes helps the measure of success. Is is betty closely linked to how basted you get at the end of the day. And still be happy and say that, okay, you know what? It was a grind. It was work because I. Think I learned something from it, and then the biproduct is the money into your bank account I mean no journey is is knocked with any hardships but functional does those are chips are either whether you're interested in that. Interested in. It just becomes a bit easier. I do feel as an individual that I have not least my potentially yet. So at an individual level, do feel that. Position Right now that I'm holding at goals, Him India is very important to me because I think sort of culminating my experiences of yours and other hatchets is what people talk about. The sweetest memory of. You being on I I think freedom is the keyword right and not to force with it into the context of this podcast. But the reality is that freedom in many ways, right. So one could say that freedom to travel or freedom in terms of time. It's not just that it's deeper than that meaning if you are an entrepreneur or if you're in an organization where you have the ability to be entrepreneurial. Freedom comes from the fact that you are able to see the light of day you're see the. Vision being implemented and and that vision is something. That's a very big idea in your head, which is slowly coming into play and I think he could do that and envision that and the freedom those sense of accomplishment you get out of that estimators. You simply example which we've been Iran for when I was doing agency business. All I did was they the doublet and I could actually review graphics on aren't on it and I just do that fifteen was working on stuff. And banks. Takes still rolling into the company. And I could enjoy the freedom that I had. To Easter level and Theresa's process you need to build a great company you need to build culture you need to. You need to start showing. Account will be able to enjoy those states. Bill. And you do it. What was it? I'm having may my vacation it has to be right? I need to stay in Dot L. Any Dogwood Ford I need to have this and that's all I'll be defined my travel as having said that blunt could eat adventure that I'd love to share with you. Is, nitrogen. Register. I think for me that's been very close to my heart because one of the most adventurous in the most fun. And I? It was not just because of luxury it was a bit of that but it was too specific nations that we loved going to. One of them was chase amid. In the middle of the sort that was a camp. And be lifted. I still remember the name of the owner Mr. Singh who actually took us on his folks ragging follow from the city all the insight to the desert. And and we had anyone then and he and his team. Got To know about it and actually bought a key for us come from the town and be celebrated admitted with firecrackers Geek right in the middle of the desert. And we had the this on. We had amazing drinks and we had yummy. Food, which was unlike five food like this leaper of food is food. and. That whole experience was Betty Betty member of the second exceed that would like to share in this don was the one that don't. They to what he did was before lead east at this time, we took to between two. I think the first and last thing that I would ever be honest with you. I am not ashamed boost many spiked. Leaving McLean their caucuses in the plane and its talk. A. Dead the more and on two reasons, there's only one way you take a flight somewhere in then you go by bus or whatever. The. In the book, they just made sense to US financially. Toronto more directly by training that that's started out johnny just. To Toronto more we spent tonight the. For me, it was like a ticket. It's like a general of renew what we love getting into. I. Think what happens is when you entering safari and delegates of the jungle everything changes like you feel you're outside the civil war and you in. Like a different planet of sorts eight bed better rules of the nature of nature not controlled by you. Because, guess what is not San Diego's? This is not seaboard. This is not a Singapore zoo or anti-mugging, Mumbai. Honest. This. And diver tells you that the reality is that you what entering an average is not the audio you doing in to. That you are meeting them in an environment where you don't feel stuck. Now, this very key in ready critical the expedience what this means is your timing your. As a human being to meet someone who is you have these to be lowly The for it because. This. By You are expected. To in order them you do. As you get the bonding. Can as you come back early before the sun goes now because guess what they can beat you up to. Date like like the chiefs literally run. Someone gets it somewhere and there is this group of drivers drivers know each other one of the drivers is supposedly liberal pathetic lately. Everything he knows. That I going to lose days both be in that. Okay and. Then you sitting. In, the backseat asking you to Atlantic. Tara. School Committee. Suddenly. Click all the Independent Jeet Solanki. LICHERI's leaguer rally also hurts one person is WYNC's away because the day in. That again, let's Them. So you actually Do Nothing. And then you end up seeing bbdo does something and then you end up thinking. His data and then that is a big dollar. You can actually go on that covers so you can see. On New if you aren't allowed to so greasy and then it starts raining and you and you just have your gaps on the rains are because of the forest by the way it's not because accuweather w that it might it might just go away into. And guess what if you? Even if you don't see a Diago, you get a glimpse of a big wild elephant maybe maybe even like we are on the horizon. But. It still excites you and you compare this. And this is something very close to my heart, which I'm which I'm beginning to realize while talking with you, you combat this with all these analyst Gates zoos tonight, and you realize how sad it is eight and then you and then you start to everybody should the process of course of being able to see these people see these animals but at the same time, appreciate why it could be so sad for them being in those cages. and. I have been seaboard have been to have been to San Diego Zoo. These But the reality is that as a father now. Consisting his decision with my life. I don't want to take my daughter to. I would rather Acre goop best I wouldn't mind spending maybe even if it's just once in a lifetime. Cookies to South Africa and sure all animals that even if it's just once in her life. Rather than taking all those enlisted these across the board. That city. and. I think that's super brought to trade and I think my every station for this grows even more. Or less. In, bad adventure of. Union. Wildlife Sanctuary of. Austria's. Of Lessons. To individual classroom is a very family told my father. Always you know family vacations and took us for holidays where the main going to three days to Mobley. Sure for the week. On individually or whether it was, it was like. To. Basically. Always. took us. All of us we. Would say probably one of the key learnings from me as. I didn't individual level that I think. It's sort of what I've come. Good Eli Lilly decently. softies outside the on traveling sort of books means that as be flexible, being more into being war going with the flow acting rather than expecting things to be perfect I think I made me do a little more often than be in the static environment at home, which is expected losses Javanese, which is continually within you in in different situations requiring to adapt Lincou explore new team. Last thing I wanted to ask you is, what is your advice? By entrepreneurs that have taken this people feed. Them. On that, you start off for Daniel Thing mastered abandoning is. Dos. Their job. I think through things to this to this center story right one is the fact that we are all living in a very different goal right now, we are living in a postcode world. Many happy to see some of the changes because I come from a digital. So like I'm the guy who says. Radio Call. Carlo. Maneka Gaza. And and that has happened but now that's happening stick into. That is the fact that how'd you become independent as an entrepreneur? Thank. So the fuss by is sketti eight for all of us they did so many differing borne out that but I think the sooner you accept it. As the new novel, the more successful you will be in the an earlier, you'll be able to see success compatriots, for example, relationship manager at the bank forces or creative content quaker. Of. Video. Now if you want someone who's videographer content writer which I think quite a lot of people are actually those who are savvy and who are linked into our on facebook it you guys should be the. First because you can do a lot more than others. Is Unique to start looking at how you're going to build your business in a solid and you need to stop getting yourselves. It's very difficult to build a business and it's very difficult to go on business so if you need to. Heading down and tying in sales marketing. This is the best. But I also go out and do it. If you are in a non digital space lake. Simple eggs. Relationship debate and you're thinking of becoming entrepreneurs unique to get your head out of the sand and you need to stop thinking about incompetence goes lately, the banking system is getting. A banking banks awfully lets me. Most banks are feeling there's consolidation happening. Down the line, I can imagine that there are only probably or three. named. Banks and do probably public banks meaning all the other banks are going to get a job. Innovating would go hunker down it portion. You're commuting `less you want it home. Skinny vitamin outside, and guess what? If there. Hundred people dead. People eating stores name. If you're going to be the one out of that ninety, you're. GonNa lose the. Beatles ten. On digital. Those ten. Shit out. And in that process, the money in that process may goodwill. Don't try to be ambitious to the. Inexpensive. Even. If you're, you don't put your hand to your heart and say, if you have done that by we'll outside your comfort zone winston me a lack of. To long-stainding. Plans this is not the time collect. This is the time to play quarter-by-quarter. Eight. Or maybe even on Monday. And getting things. Keep costs low. And she low keeping expenses low. Aimed dying being defenseless fine, but he's being defensive to. Great. Kudos to you. But if you done that. Means you need to be on the offensive and actually build things and Celtic. It's a very good time to take on products for cheap and it as you along. In my opinion, laughing. Underestimate. X.. Dying. Every week and Auto Peter one year master. Like I I don't think it's it's. Impossible. And hacks fight. So for example, let's say you WANNA be Programmer Bait and you want to do. I don't know beyond reds go on new to their hundreds of people doing the ship of. Go to youtube figured out how to get started. On our smart programme on it. And talk often enough yours who's a programmer? Probably a CTO probably an engineer who's not doing podcasts are lose our. On a creative writer, but he's actually in engineering and I love this I want to be able to. Ramming for friends because I know so many people who wanted to do it. Can you pick me and has me out in Spain? I don't know send of your time on weekends to you on this and can. Programas. Fraud now show. I know this sounds easy but but the reality is that. It's not. and. Once you get in, you got to do things in. A lot of people are I'm not your to say that people are it I'm saying. That is how you click. You can't always be that. I think any entrepreneur needs to know that in London and learn things on the on the go and I think independent make this is even more relevant because we don't know what's coming next. That's the reality media north what's coming? I think I don't a lot about on the bench depend how to think and to do other time is of the most then what the in Naples two's off in the. Family will always remain for. So thank you for on demand. Thank you all the time and. I can get your instagram hand delighted I will add that as well as. Your joys and all reach out to you they need any. Anything that ends up your. Chart. Followed over the Paulo. On A. Thank you so much. And Goodbye This podcast is brought to you by backpack Amee instagram handle at Tim backpacking me. Follow. Share.