35 Burst results for "Nightclub"
AP News Radio
Supreme Court avoids ruling on law shielding internet companies from being sued for what users post
"The Supreme Court has sided with three Internet giants in lawsuits looking to hold them liable for terror attacks. The high court avoided the big issue hovering over the cases by not ruling on the federal law shielding Internet companies for being sued for what users post, but the justices did unanimously reject a suit alleging Google Twitter and Facebook allowed their platforms to be used in aiding abetting a Turkish nightclub attack that killed 39 people 6 years ago. The high court returned the case of an American college student killed in a Paris terror attack to a lower court. Families of victims in both attacks and the companies did not do enough to keep extremist groups from using the platforms to radicalize and recruit people, Sagar Meghani, Washington.
AP News Radio
San Francisco is naming the nation's first drag laureate
"San Francisco is fighting back against recent bans on drag performances. The city is naming the nation's first drag laureate, representing the LGBTQ+ community, Darcy drollinger. Having the drag laureate position takes what we're doing and really elevates it and gives it a deeper amount of credibility. Drollinger is a drag performer and owns the oasis nightclub. London breed is the city's mayor. I'm really proud of what San Francisco has done to really open its heart and its minds to accepting drag as an art form. Drollinger realizes there are people strongly opposed to drag performers. But I also don't want to live my life under the shadow of fear. The drag Laurie its goal is to make San Francisco sparkle. That is a sound that can't really be silenced. I'm Ed Donahue
AP News Radio
Walter Cole, Cole And Lisa Dwyer discussed on AP News Radio
"Darcel the world's oldest working drag queen has died. I'm Lisa dwyer. Walter Cole, a former army veteran that better known as the iconic drag queen who performed for decades as dorsal 15 has died in Portland Oregon. He was 92. As a performer, darcel was crowned the world's oldest working drag performer in 2016 by the Guinness Book of World Records and was known for hosting the longest running drag show on the U.S. West Coast. In a 2019 interview with KGW, Cole said I had to come to grips with who I am. And that I was lying. And I told my wife that I was gay. After I told her, I met Roxy. If I hadn't met the two of them, there wouldn't be a darcel. The highlight, I think, is exactly that be who you are and as dorsal said that even after decades of performing as ourselves still got butterflies. It's an amazing, amazing thing with performers. I suppose when the butterflies stop the adrenaline is incorrect. The nightclub, the dorsal open more than 50 years ago in downtown Portland, the dorsal 15 show place was listed in 2020 on the National Register of Historic Places, the club says the show's will go on. I'm Lisa dwyer
AP News Radio
US mass killings linked to extremism spiked over last decade
"A new report finds a big spike in the number of U.S. mass killings linked to extremism. The anti defamation league says mass slayings from extreme ideology have occurred in every decade since the 70s. But between 2010 and 2020, there were 21 such incidents, leaving 164 people dead. That's three times higher than any previous period. The only exception being the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. The ADL says extremist attacks have been inspired by the Islamic State group. Police officers being targeted and a campaign of violence endorsed by white supremacists. Recent right-wing extremist killings include the mass shooting at a buffalo grocery store, and the killings at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs. One advocacy group says we can not stand idly by and accept this as the new norm. I'm Jackie Quinn.
Mark Levin
John Kerry's Fight Against Climate Takes Him to Island Resort
"Is John Kerry's taxpayer funded fight against the climate crisis takes him to 5 star island resort Writes Colin Anderson At the free Beacon John Kerry's fight against the climate crisis so called has taken the jet setting Biden administration official yet another luxurious location A 5 star island resort in The Bahamas Kerry served as President Biden's climate Tsar He likes that too Hello Tsar Since January 2021 is on the Caribbean island for three days this week to quote advance international cooperation among nations Particularly vulnerable to the climate crisis The State Department announced including in his itinerary was an opulent opening ceremony held at the Atlantis Paradise island at cost of fortune It's beautiful A lush 5 star resort that boasts 14 swimming pools 14 lagoons dozens of luxury restaurants A yacht Marina a private golf course a world class casino with more than 700 slot machines At least three nightclubs and a movie theater Bahamian prime minister Philip Davis during a Wednesday night speech Thank Kerry for attending the ceremony a line that was met with muffled applause Thanks She's here Jackass
The Trish Regan Show
George Santos and the Total Failure of the Media to Fact Check
"Back to how does this slip through the cracks? One lousy media with different value set to allow the competitor. I mean, the Democrat and his team clearly lack anywhere with all to just check the boxes. And three, a total lack of appetite on behalf of the national media to do anything about this. But that's to be expected. You know, if you're really wanting to go down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories, you might wonder if this is the real manchurian candidate that just really screwed up. It's interesting when you think about how does he have those millions of dollars? Was he paid off? Does he really have those millions of dollars? I think he's still a fair question. These lies keep adding up. Let me give you some more that just came out today. I told you about the horse man, horseman's a wonderful prep school won the top prep schools in the country, and he's saying he went there. Again, I just say like, how does that happen? Because wouldn't you have known anybody that had graduated with him? Wouldn't people say, um, that guy is running for Congress. He said he graduated with me from Horace Mann. I don't remember him. And he might talk to a friend and say, I don't remember him either. Well, then he claimed that 9 11 took his mom's life, but apparently another report said that she passed away of cancer in 2016. Now maybe it was 9 11 related. We don't know, but everything is kind of just weird. So let's go through the list of lies because it's worth knowing where we are. All of these claims are misrepresentations have come from him, for example, having Jewish parents who fled the Nazi Holocaust. That's apparently not the case. He said he graduated from baruch college, apparently there's no record of that. He said he attended Horace Mann, the prep school in New York, no record of that. He said he ran an animal charity and that doesn't seem to be the case. He also said he lost employees in the 2016 pulse nightclub shooting that he worked at Citigroup and also Goldman Sachs that he owned rental property and that his family firm managed 80 $1 million in assets paying him $750,000, but apparently the only real record they have of him working is some kind of low level wage job. And then there's the 9 11 thing I just told you about with his mother's death. So this
Crypto Current
Dan Sutherland on Self's Approach to Universal Web3 Fraud Prevention
"Today we have a dance southerland who is the founder at self, how are you doing today? I am great. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Definitely. And excited to learn more about how timely self is, especially after all this FTX. Is going down. But before we dive into that side of the conversation, first let's learn a little bit more about you. Can you give us some background on yourself? Yeah, cool. I'm an entrepreneur. So I have been running and investing in businesses since I was 17, approximately. And a fairly broad sway of things. So everything from promoting nightclubs when I was a lot younger to management consulting and now with my toes firmly in the world of crypto. Great, yeah, so what I found with serial entrepreneurs as they start to get into more of the web three spaces like this, nice synergistic transition over into it because you can understand just the vast amount of opportunities in it, but you also can understand the amount of challenges that can come with keeping yourselves safe as you get into a new innovative space. So talk to us about what made you want to focus on this side of the web three space. So I've always really liked innovative technology. I've liked new interesting things as they come into the market. But my real interest in that context has been in the way they transitioned from being the latest thing to being something that has real utility for really large volumes of people. It's been super exciting to watch the growth of the web three space of the NFT space over the last few years. But with the best will in the world as much money as some people have made out of that space, the number of people who are buying NFTs online is tiny compared to the number of people who need to pay for their electricity. And I think what I find really interesting is how you make that jump between something that has huge potential and how you flow yourself then into the position where those opportunities and that technology can become something that is useful for everyday people without maybe them even necessarily knowing that that's the case.
AP News Radio
In 2021, judge warned of gay bar attacker's shootout plans
"A Colorado judge warned of the gay bar attackers shoot out plans. A judge who dismissed a 2021 kidnapping case against the Colorado gain nightclub shooter, warned last year that a defendant had been stockpiling weapons and planning a shootout and needed mental health treatment or quote it's going to be so bad. The comments made in August last year by the judge are contained in court documents obtained by The Associated Press. They add to warning signs authorities had about increasing violent behavior by Anderson Aldrich prior to the November 19th shooting at club Q in Colorado Springs. I'm Shelley antler
AP News Radio
Club Q shooting survivors press Congress to act on guns
"Survivors of a Colorado gay nightclub shooting have pleaded with a house panel to address violence against the LGBTQ community and to ban some semi-automatic weapons. I can still hear the rapid firing of bullets today. Club Q bartender, Michael Anderson says the shooter came into his safe space. It began hunting people like they were disposable. It's a sound I may never forget a sound club Q founder, Matthew Haynes, told the House oversight committee was born of two things hatred toward the LGBTQ community and access to semi-automatic weapons. Putting those together is total carnage. President Biden today repeated his intention to seek an assault weapons ban, noting it's the tenth anniversary of 20 little kids being killed at sandy hook elementary school. He says the U.S. should have societal guilt for failing to move faster in tightening gun laws. Sagar Meghani, Washington.
AP News Radio
Club Q suspect's bomb threat dismissed; victims refused to testify, DA says
"Newly released court documents show the suspect in the Colorado Springs nightclub massacre did have weapons seized after a bomb threat incident last year. There were questions about an incident in June of 2021 in which Anderson Aldrich allegedly threatened family members with a gun, telling the grandparents they would die that day and threatening the mother with a bombing at her home. There were questions raised about why that case was dropped and whether it would have triggered Colorado's red flag law that allows weapons to be seized from someone who's deemed to be a threat. Now that the case is unsealed, the prosecutor says weapons were confiscated from Aldrich, who tried to reclaim them, but did not get them back. And it's explained the case was dropped in sealed because family
AP News Radio
Colorado LGBTQ club shooting suspect is charged with hate crimes
"The suspect in the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting has been charged with hate crimes and murder. 22 year old Anderson Lee Aldrich is accused of walking inside club cue a gay nightclub, clad in body armor and opening fire last month with an AR-15 style rifle, killing 5 people and wounding 17. Patrons say the killing stopped only when they wrestled the suspect to the ground and beat Aldrich into submission. District attorney Michael Allen says it's possible the charges against Aldrich could change. It's somewhat likely that we will amend charges to add or
AP News Radio
Colorado gay club shooting suspect set to return to court
"The person accused of killing 5 and wounding 17 at a Colorado gay nightclub is expected to return to court today, Anderson Lee Aldrich is expected to learn what charges prosecutors will pursue in the November 19th attack at club Q in Colorado Springs, investigators say Aldrich entered the nightclub just before midnight clad in body armor and opened fire with an AR-15 style rifle, investigators say the killing stopped after a patron's wrestled Aldrich to the ground, beating the suspect into submission, according to defense court filings Aldrich is non binary and uses the pronouns they and them Aldrich faces possible hate crime counts in addition to murder charges. I'm Donna water
Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast
Hal Sparks on How Conservatives Have Lost the Script With Christianity
"Jenna Ellis, Trump's lawyer on the club Q shooting. She said the people killed in the nightclub that night, there is no evidence that they were Christians, assuming they've not accepted the truth of firm Christ as the lord of their life. They are now reaping the consequences of their eternal damnation, and you just said, who would Jesus lauder? Yeah. These fake Christians. They've lost they've lost the script entirely on Christianity. Like they have given up. And with a certain group of people, the buzz words of just calling yourself a Christian or dropping Jesus name like some like networker at a Hollywood party. Like, man, Jesus, I don't know if you know that Jesus, I went to Jesus camp. Anyways. So the deal should go through, right? I mean, I've never shot anything acted anything written anything or done anything, but Jesus, right? I said the right name, right? There's so much of that kind of gangster mentality around it that they don't even have to have a faux substantive argument, which is interesting because it did chase off in the last couple of weeks. Once Trump announced a bunch of evangelical leaders have all stepped back, I even saw one of the hardest right wing guys going. Maybe we should return back to a message of spirituality. I'm like, ya think.
AP News Radio
NYPD: No known threats to Macy's parade, but tight security
"Police in New York say their planning tight security around the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade in the wake of mass shootings in Colorado and Virginia. Police say there is no known credible threat to the event, but they say they'll deploy additional resources to ensure the festivities across the city are safe for all. The parade comes just two days after a manager at a Walmart in Chesapeake, Virginia, shot to death 6 people, and then himself, and four days after 5 people were shot to death at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado, Macy's is promising that the parade will be bigger and better this year than ever before, and the event is starting at 8 45 a.m. this year instead of 9 to accommodate all the balloons, floats, marching bands, and other participants. I'm Donna water
The Officer Tatum Show
Colorado Club Q Shooting Suspect Is 'Non-Binary'
"Let's get on to some news. Colorado mass shooting identifies as a non binary. Now, I don't know if this person, and if you're not familiar with the Colorado shooting in Colorado Springs, a nut job went into a gay nightclub, called club Q or something like that, and decided to shoot up people, end up killing about 5 people and injuring several other people, but now that he's being presented in front of a judge, he's now identified as non binary. I'm going to try to read again because I think these articles explain a little better than I do. I'm not going to say the person's name because he's a scumbag and I'm not going to say scumbags names. The suspect in a daily Colorado LGBTQ nightclub massacre is non binary and uses they them pronouns. Their lawyer said in a new court filing Tuesday. This is so stupid. But blank blank is non binary, the footnote states, the Denver post reported. They use they them pronouns and for the purpose of all forms filed on all formal filings, we will be addressed as mix blank. So I'm not going to say his name, but it's mixed blank. So it's MX, so not mister with MR or miss with MS or MRS. It's MX. And I don't know if this is just adding insult to injury by a person being so fanatically against homosexuality and the trans stuff that he would go so far is to kill people, knowing that one day he will be in court and then in court adding insult to injury by just adding on to the foolery by saying that he identified as a non binary.
AP News Radio
Colorado gay club shooting suspect held without bail
"The suspect in the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting is denied bail. In El Paso county court judge has ordered the alleged shooter Anderson Lee Aldrich held without bail. The next hearing in the case is December 6th. Aldrich is facing possible murder and hate crime charges following the fatal shooting of 5 people at a gay nightclub. The suspect was beaten into submission by patrons during the Saturday night shooting at club Q and was released from the hospital Tuesday. During a video appearance from jail Wednesday, Aldrich was slumped over in a chair with injuries visible to the face and head. I'm Mike Hempen
Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast
Malcolm Nance Is Right—Far Right Republicans Want to Kill Americans
"I hate that every time we have to talk to you, there's something that's proves you're right that is not a good thing. Someone just tweeted as Malcolm nan says they want to kill Americans. You tweeted, you know, after the Colorado Springs stochastic terrorism, Kerry lakes doing it in Arizona. Kerry lakes lies force Maricopa County election official into hiding with a torrent of death threats. I mean, Malcolm, it just feels like one long unbroken story. January 6th, the Paul Pelosi attack, you know, and they just don't stop. You know, they don't stop in terms of targeting people, Mike Pompeo just called the head of the teachers union, the most dangerous person in the world. Wow. Really? Yeah. I mean, I saw that yesterday I was absolutely stunned. Well, yes. And they want to kill Americans, and they are now encouraging other Americans to target other Americans. And the worst part is we are just getting started. Things are going to get much much worse. And I'm going to give that to you straight, no chaser. This is a pure, very obvious intelligence analysis that now because they won the House of Representatives. They feel not just empowered, but emboldened to go after their enemies. The good, you know, to a gay nightclub and shoot all the patrons. You know, to the point where, you know, families were there. They just, they have been told over and over again that liberals, liberalism, you know, education with the case of Randy Andy Randy weingarten. That's insane. Yeah. These people have decided they are going to embrace the potential of violence or actual violence and calling out their enemies so that this, you know, the crazy criminal crusaders will all come out and start killing them.
The Ben Shapiro Show
"nightclub" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show
"Well, hard to follow Doctor Fauci, who I would argue has been the most important consequential public servant in the United States in the last half century and a leader and a role model for so many of us. So Tony, thank you. What a leader and what a role model, a person who blew it along every step of the way who flip flopped on every major issue. And then who posed himself as the science, if you doubted any of the things that he was saying. By the way, he said a bunch of stuff that wasn't particularly accurate yesterday did Anthony Fauci. So first, there was this incident that was pretty amazing, where a reporter demanded that Anthony Fauci actually answered some questions about the origins of the virus. Now, Anthony Fauci has been wildly and curious about the origins of the COVID virus in the first place. The evidence suggests at this point that there is a significant possibility if not probability that the Wuhan virus was originally developed in a Chinese lab. That it was essentially a piece of gain of function research that got loose because of bad protocols. What we do know is that the Chinese government then covered it up probably since October. That's not me that Scott gottlieb, who's a moderate former head of the FDA. In his book, he talks specifically about how China essentially hid this thing for months and months and months while it ran wild throughout Wuhan. And then eventually infected the entire world killing probably four or 5 million people. But Anthony Fauci's been questioned significantly about the beginnings of the Wuhan virus because, after all, he's been an advocate of gain of function research to the point where the NIH was actually giving grants to labs in China to do gain of function research. And if those grants weren't the ones that actually led to the gain of function research that led to COVID, money is fungible and being part of the broader project is kind of a problem. Now, again, Anthony Fauci's been wildly and curious about the origins of the virus. He just keeps saying over and over that it was a wet market that drove all of this. The evidence there is dicey at best. The White House was like, we're not even answering questions about this. You stop attacking Anthony Fauci by asking him actual questions. Stop that right now. He's
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
MSNBC Blames Conservatives for Colorado Nightclub Shooting
"The folks over at MSD and see they have finally figured out who to blame for this shooting at the gay club in Colorado Springs, cut 6, please. The theory is if you're fearful enough, you're not going to push back. But what we need to see happening is the exact opposite. We need to see accountability and consequences. So first, a real quick hate crime charge here on top of the homicide charges, I applaud that. That tells me, prosecutors and police, they found quickly what they needed. That means they know this was a bias crime. This is likely, and since we've heard reports that the subject isn't cooperating with police, that means they likely found clear and convincing evidence on his devices. If he's a consumer of the people we just rattled off from Lauren boebert to Tucker Carlson, let's get it out. Let's get it out at trial. Let's expose it for what it is. Name it and shame it. He's a consumer of these people and those people should pay civil consequences from the victims. Yeah, that's a heavy dose of grade 8 crap. Ladies and gentlemen, what we do know about this attacker is that he is 22 years old. He's a Mormon. I don't know if he likes to get Marie. I don't know. Just because you're Mormon, doesn't make come on, grace, just because you're a Mormon doesn't mean you like Donnie and Murray. Or the handsome. So the guy was a Mormon. So it's not like he's some sort of Southern Baptist. Or I don't know, Presbyterian. Why am I not picking on your denomination grace? Just step away from the microphone. You're just making up for the weeks loss. I am, I am here. But the whole point of this is that there's no proof that this guy we still even know if it is in fact a hate crime. But here's what here's what we do know that they have a George Soros district attorney in Colorado Springs, and this Yahoo let this guy walk when he threatened to blow up his mother.
Popcast
"nightclub" Discussed on Popcast
"That. It's zaso son de sturdy. Lock up. We get back no one crazy enough to be good. Be my slash. I'm in as I know we're not coming through my dream come from sex. Say other things I give me they throw they try me tell me that ass. Blood cup we get back throwing crazy enough of the goats. They my slack is give us the quick hit on Philly dance club teen stuff. Philly geographically is kind of like a middle ground between Baltimore Jersey. Club music is always from and I didn't even notice initially. And it's funny because I didn't really know what Jersey or fairly club were until I became like a music writer. And I actually had to like interact with people and do more research, but growing up, I think because club music originated in Baltimore, I think we had such an insulated universe of our own renditions of it and we had multiple generations of it that we didn't really look elsewhere for it. So it wasn't until I started hanging out in New York and started meeting people from freely and they'd be like, oh yeah, we know about all the Baltimore club music we would play at a house party and they'd start naming songs to me. I'm like, oh, I had no idea. And even like with the whole mad decent involvement in club music, I wasn't aware of where any of those people were from. And I get older and I started to realize like, okay, all these guys were from Philly. And somebody even pointed out on Twitter with my vulture piece that I didn't mention DJ Sega from Philly, which my bad on that. I mean, it honestly can't mention. Yeah, it's a roundup. So somebody's gonna get left out, but yeah, you got DJ, the DJ Sega, as well as Diplo's and all those guys feeling has always had a place in club music there. It's really cool music, which is a bit faster than Baltimore, but not as fast as Jersey. So I think the design sources and the Philly goes to the world, it makes sense that this can happen in Philly. And I also want to point out that the producer for this for that track. DJ crazy is born and raised in Baltimore. He moved to Philly when he was a teenager. And from what I understand spent a lot of his early adulthood and Jersey. So he, as a producer, has the experience of every facet in layer of club culture alone that east coast, which I think is really cool. And I think that's kind of like the biggest story in sending the producer, but that song shake that had just been going crazy on the Internet for the past 6, 7 months. And they had the hip stance that goes along with it. The kids, the Philly ghosts that kind of like a dancing rap crew. And I think David dancing is actually just as if not more important than the song. Itself because those are the kids that are making a splash on TikTok. I mean, my daughter is doing the dance. And not really knowing where they're from. She knows that it's club music, but she doesn't know what the ins and outs of it. And I think that's the interesting feature of club music is that obviously as a way more global reach, but I think the language of club music has changed your way of yes before the BPM kind of was a help you distinguish where it was from, but now I think because of the Internet, the super fast and chaotic. So it's less about the BPM and more about what you can do to affect people with the music. And also it's implicitly de regionalized. So when we were talking before we started recording, you were talking about your daughter and kind of absorbing this stuff on TikTok and one of the things that's crucial about TikTok for a dance perspective, but also a music perspective is it's inherently de regionalized. Your daughter doesn't know where the dance has come from. Obviously it's up to people like us to kind of like tell the stories and like dig up the lineages and genealogies things, but if you're 12 years old or 14 years old or even 16 or 18 on the platform, you may not be thinking, ah, this is a Jersey club tempo. Ah, this is a Baltimore club familiar sample from Baltimore club. It's been de regionalized and because of that, the hybridization that's happening is so much more rapid, which leads me to kind of where I want to end and again, I was so happy to see Batman real on your list. So bam bam real is making records that are at the intersection of drill and club. And the reason I was happy you put him on this list is because one of my main thoughts about the Drake album is its low key anxiety about the rise of drill and where does he fit in with that? And maybe sort of like Tapping out, even it just being like, nope, not it. Okay, okay, I'm not gonna do that anymore. Like y'all have that. But The Batman real stuff and we'll play it at the outro to me seems like if there's like a viable path for someone like Drake to get involved in like this current moment, Batman rel seems to have a template. As he was saying, I was thinking what you were saying, the post regionalism of club music. I think production wise, that might be the case, but vocally it's still very regional. I think that band man real rapping the way that he does, which is more similar to New York drill, and I can't really specify the difference between drill and the boroughs of New York City because it's not really my terrain, but at the very least he sounds more like a New York rap, but he's ramping on Jersey club, and I think that's what's interesting about the Jersey club brand as opposed to what's coming up. I mean, Philly has its own accent. Obviously, but I think that even rapping kind of like on the drill temple, I feel. But I think that accents are slightly different. So it translates differently. And I honestly wasn't even up on the band member and making stuff into alfons Pierre from pitchfork. He did a whole thing on down that real. And actually Brandon calling the young writer based on North Carolina. He's the one that told me about the Philly stuff, like months ago, I'm less knowledgeable of the Jersey club, but I'm more, I'm more intrigued by it because of the crashing of influence that I can hear in it. And I always like when I can spot multiple influences in one artist or one song. And I think the Jersey club, right? That's what makes it the most interesting to me. But I do see why a person like Drake could be drawn to it because he obviously is into the UK drill scene, which is where the New York drill rap really comes from more than from Chicago and my and then with the club music on the beat we all know that drink is always at least for the past 6, 7 years always like to interact with dance music. So I can see that this clashing of cultures would be appealing to him or at least like a blueprint. While Lawrence, as always, I'm glad you were listening and paying attention. I'm listening and paying attention. And we know Drake is listening and paying attention. It always. That's our show. Thanks, Lawrence. Thanks to Joe. Listen to every podcast ever at NY times dot com slash podcast, email me a podcast and a lot of times dot com, any of your favorite teen club TikTok dances, give them the Facebook group, get on the Discord, subscribe to podcasts. Anyway, you got your audio content, Apple Spotify, Google, et cetera. Our producers, Pedro rosato from head separate media, we'll be back next week. Here's Batman real. Knowing my blood, but you know how I'm coming pussy loving them striving doing so well standing to go watch your homie what's in this house if you start getting Bonnie. Don't think that they don't even know me. Send you a driver matching the story still..
Popcast
"nightclub" Discussed on Popcast
"Is kind of this error that we're talking about. Yeah, and their stories and I don't want to say names but their stories of really popular producers in that time of the mid to late 2000s that would have been approached by, you know, some music industry Titans about signing on to them and I've heard things. Some of these producers were afraid of their drums being stolen. And not being given credit. And look, I mean, here we are with currents, for instance, rob rob was on Twitter talking about not getting credit for that. So it's still a very real in justified paranoia that people had. Can we talk briefly about the Baltimore to Jersey pathway? And then on the tail end of that Jersey in Philadelphia, but I think the Jersey stuff is key, the bed squeak, that's a Jersey thing. Although, as you point out, it actually doesn't originate on a club record originates in a hip hop record. Jersey, the tempos are really crazy. The intensity of the drums is very hard. I feel like the things I'm hearing on honestly never mind remind me big picture, maybe more Jersey than of Baltimore and a pure sense and also maybe like a touch of ballroom as well. But talk about the Baltimore New Jersey pipeline. You know, Jersey is not that far from bottom where I don't think the average person involved in what kind of thinks about their proximity to Jersey. I think most of us kind of group it in with like a New York disrespect to Jersey, I'll just think. That's the cultural overlay. I'm not saying that they don't have that one identity. It's the same way people group Baltimore and D.C. together with extremely close. We do have cultural overlap, but it's different. But from what I know is that a lot of Jersey DJs were fans of what was coming out of Baltimore, maybe they heard some Baltimore people at that New York gigs or what have you. And they were coming down and getting the mixtapes that you could only find in the local shops. And from what I understand, DJ Tamil, who is obviously one of the pioneers in godfathers of Jersey, was one of those people who was always in town, always interacting with the Baltimore club DJs, and he eventually was part of unruly. And I think he might have been the only Jersey guy that was part of that collective, which is all Baltimore club. So meal when the late 90s, early 2000s, him at $10 were the people that were taking what they were experiencing the bottom one and going up to Jersey with it trying it out, speeding up the BPMs a bit, adding their own sauce to it. You know, and it kind of went from there. I think in my opinion, over the past decade, Jersey has really developed its own club language. That has taken on a life a more sustainable life than Baltimore club may have ever gotten to experience. You put on a Drake remix.
Popcast
"nightclub" Discussed on Popcast
"It was good. I don't know. I look at this more like the way I look at it more like or dark lane tapes kind of thing. I know he's calling in the album, but I kind of suspect this is something that Drake already kind of had in the vault. And I don't know if the rumblings about Beyoncé's dance music record accelerated his rollout plan. You know, I really don't know what it is. I mean, you can never discount anything because it's Drake and he does toy run with a lot of different genres, but I will say that I'm pleased because I think I feel like the Baltimore club community online on just the bottom of music community online over the years. I've always been a proponent of rappers using club music production because I think that we've had so many not so many, but I will say the few Baltimore artists rap artists that have been able to make some kind of little mainstream moment no matter how short lived it is. I think they tend to interact with club music, whether it not be a club beat or from a producer that specializes in club music. And I think I would say over the past decade there's been a scene developing locally that doesn't rely on club music the way that we used to before. And that's fine. I'm a huge fan of obviously. I always wish that Baltimore artists, especially the ones that are super hot in the city, that rack up 6 figure views on a regular basis with at least like try to go for a club music a little bit more. Well, club music has been around so long at this point. It could plausibly be your father's music. If you're 16, you might be like, hold my teammates. Yeah, right, right, right. So it's interesting that there are artists who do engage with it, but I imagine like you say with some younger artists, maybe it's a little bit like, we don't mess with that. Yeah, it was like, I hear that at a cookout. Yes. Oh. It's so embedded in the culture for the past 30 years that everybody's connection to it is not the same. And I think sometimes people recognize it, but they might not want to make it, or they might not want to interact with it in the same way. And they might like it still. But it's just not the way that they want to communicate musically. And I think that's fine and I will say that all those shake it to the ground is an element of currents, the actual production style is more in line with Jersey club because of the biscuits. At the point when shake it to the ground came out, Baltimore club. This is not one Baltimore club Baltimore club existed for many years before this era, TJ techniques, rod Lee. You want to give like a quick micro history of how Baltimore developed the club sound that ended up at this song because this song is, frankly, it's Diplo era. We're already down the road, frankly. So you want to give just a quick micro history of kind of what was going on in the 90s until the early 2000s. From what I know just by reading, I was an infant, maybe I was born in 90, so I can't speak to anything that was actually happening in that time outside of my own research and conversations with the OGs of the club music culture. But from what I understand in the late 80s and early 90s, Chicago house, I mean, House of Music was already really big in Baltimore in the clubs. And around the late 80s, early 90s, DJ started developing the breakbeat. And they were using Chicago house records and really utilizing those break beats to kind of create their own musical language, which would eventually become club music, and I know that in between what we know now is club music and when house was still king, there was a brief moment of sub genre called hip house, which was kind of rap music, rap over house music. If you really want to look into what Drake is doing with the kids out of Philly in Jersey right now, I think hippos is a nice historical reference for that kind of middle ground, but once the early 90s hit, you've had people like Frank ski who was a radio personality. He came up with the song holes in his house. That's the song that wap with Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion samples. That's like super early Baltimore club where it's like, it feels honestly some of Frank Steve style feels almost like new Jack swing to me. All interesting. It has that kind of vibe. And then on the other side you had DJ's like Scottie B and Sean Caesar who went on to start unruly records and they were kind of early in that development as well. Watch out for the big girls by Jimmy Jones, which lizzo will name her new Amazon show after. This is not the first dance with mainstream attention that Baltimore club has had. You point this out in your piece. We were talking about the Diplo era very briefly. MIA, there were previous moments and have been and I had actually totally forgotten about the Kanye DJ class thing. I also attended the one DJ class gig in New York right around that time and it was in a huge room and no one came and it was really depressing. And I have to say, I think I wrote about it. I gotta Google that. I think that's I think there's a piece about that somewhere. That's tough. Yeah, it was a rough night. I felt for him. But it's been interesting because despite these flirtations that have come in from the outside, the sound has remained very regional. Has that been a choice, have producers have been like, we're more invested in the community? Is it a choice that's inside out or outside in? I think it's an ongoing battle. I think that obviously club produces want that sound to have a global reach and I think a lot of I think a lot of them do. One of the beautiful things about club music is the fact that it's a form of electronic music so I don't think it has as many bounds around it as far as who has access to it and I think that even though what from shake it to the ground making it to a drink album kind of speaks to the ubiquity and the power of club music regardless of what little pocket of the country is from because the driving force behind a lot of club music is that you take these little tidbits of pop culture and musical moments and you kind of match those things together to make something Baltimore is not really a major city. It's under 600,000 people in the city, music is not one of the things that is really nurtured by local government. It's not really giving many resources. A lot of people are really kind of, you know, moving individuals in the pursuit of making it out musically. So I think that obviously gives you a roadblock. I do think that some artists that have had the opportunity to break out maybe they run wasn't that long. You know, that all people that have made way is take a bank for instance. His breakout song for us. That was produced by raw Lee. One of the most well-known club music producers there is over the past 20 years. And that got him a deal with 300. He's been on tours. His solo rap career didn't become what some people might think, but he's found a second leg in his career as a producer. He's produced on a couple of Nicki tracks recently. I believe he wrote on a little baby track recently. I just think that, you know, and TT to artists, dark city, beneath the beat, documentary that came out on Netflix in 2020. I think that was a huge thing for the culture, and it also shows some love to some people from Jersey like unique. I think that's small wins. But I wouldn't say people wanted to stay contained. I think some people have a bad taste in their mouths by certainly moments that have happened in club culture like when diploid in my able kind of around interacting with people and you know how that goes, especially in a city that I'm not really used to people kind of swooping in and collaborate and I think, you know, some people get the benefits of those types of waves happening and some people start feeling used. And manipulated and I think some people that might have sent people further into their cells, experiences like that. So it's a combination of things. I have a memory of us speaking of the Kanye DJ class thing. Like I have a memory and if someone's going to fact check me on this, feel free to. But I feel like there was an interview around that time where Kanye is talking about class and her being like I want him. Maybe it's class talking about the experience and saying that Kanye was like, I want your drums, basically like leave your file. You want to talk about erasure or people like coming in and being like, I want the sauce, but maybe not in the way that you are giving it. Like that was on people's minds and that was like 2007 or whatever, which.
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"To wrap on House records. I think Drake loves broke with expensive tastes. Like there's no way. There's no way that's not getting burned in the ovo mansion in the compound in the embassy. It's too good and it's too original and it's too up his alley for him not to mess around with that. Don't you think? Yeah, I absolutely agree and I'm waiting has Azalea tweeted about it? I think Azalea is suspended from Twitter again. I could be wrong. I don't know. Okay, I just feel like a lot of people are like tweeting on her behalf, if not her. She has many representatives. Can we do two minutes on certified lover boy, just while we're here? Yeah, oh, yes, of course. Yes, you want to reassess the reassessment of certified lover boy. You think it's a masterpiece? I think it's really good. I think it's as good as any other major Drake album. And I think it has some of his sharpest brags. I think it has some of his sharpest anxieties to go ringer for one more moment. It's LeBron on the Lakers. And it's weighed down, I think where the bloat is in the features. But I think it has some of the best Drake songs of the last 5 years. I think love all minus JZ, amazing. TSU minus the R. Kelly sample in the background, amazing. Into deep with future amazing pipe down, race my mind, get along better, fair trade without Travis Scott. It's a good album and people are gonna remember that they like these songs in three years. I think it was the wrong album for that moment. I think the pandemic was supposed to be over and it was not over. I think that Drake is very annoying to people and was at his peak annoying after like two C slide, which isn't on the album. And also the album cover of CLB. I think it was bad timing, I think it was a bad rollout. I think it was bad marketing, much like views, which is maybe one of the better Drake albums. Look, I just think certified lover boy is a stand in for what people are sick of with Drake, but I don't think it is a bad Drake album. Okay, I will repeat something. I don't know if I hear what you're saying. I accept it. I don't know if I agree with it, but I will say something about how Drake albums age broadly speaking. And I've talked about this in previous writing about Drake and I feel like I'm sure we talked about it. More than really any other artist currently working Drake has his own grammar. He literally has a special keyboard, like a sound board that's like specific Drake sounds and ideas. Now, when we get a new record, oftentimes, I think what we're listening for are variations from the sound board. We're listening for innovations. Are we listening to, hey, he's putting together familiar ideas in new ways. Sure, but mostly we're kind of like, huh, didn't expect that, didn't see that coming, didn't know you've sampled that and you'd go in this direction, didn't know you cared about play a fly. Of course, we know he cares about play of life. There's that, but in terms of how Drake records age. From a distance what you hear is the sound board. Where you hear is the familiarity. Listening to a random song off CLB right now, I'm not even sure I could tell you. I might hear it and be like, was that on scorpion? Was that like somewhere two thirds into more life? Because he's fundamentally remixing ideas that are his ideas. They're his sounds. And so you could fundament you could plausibly make a total mashup Drake playlist of the last like 5, like this album, the last 5 or 6 projects. And apart from the big singles, you could put together a playlist, take off the album tag and a lot of these songs could have fit on any of the albums, because the Drake idea is a Drake worldview. That's the thing. And so maybe part of what you're saying about CLB actually being very good, maybe it's because if you listen to it with an ear for the broadness of Drake's catalog and the specificity of his soundboard, it makes a lot of sense, but in that moment, the ways in which it iterated were not either sufficient or exciting. Speculating speculating. I think that's totally right, and I think ultimately the argument I'm moving towards, which I'm not going to make now, but we should have another Drake podcast. I would venture to say before we hang up our headphones. Is that maybe Drake is a singles artist and not an album artist? And I don't even mean singles in terms of radio singles, but I mean he's a song's artist. And the reason we've never gotten the quote unquote classic Drake album is because he's given us a 150 plus songs with a capital S, you know? And maybe we never needed an album from him. And I think history looks back. Again, putting it out there tentatively that when history looks back, we're going to remember Drake for his four disc greatest hits, not for his albums. I'm just looking at the full discography, nothing was the same. Has to exist as an album. Thank me later. Yeah. But in that moment, right? They're so tied to the moment and I think like you're saying, with more space with more time with more distance, it's just a lot of good songs. And I don't know really how the arcs work. But I do think what you're saying about the grammar is interesting specifically to bring it back to honestly never mind because that grammar is not really here, right? It's here in bits and pieces, but I think part of what's taking me a while to understand about it is that it is a different language for Drake. I think we could quibble over that a little bit because to me, the first time I listened to this album, I was like, it's fresh, sweaty, and it's radical. By listen number 5, I was like, I know this guy. I agree. It's revealing itself as it goes. And I'll be interested to know, you know, I don't know if people sit with albums for a month or three months or 6 months. At this point, they certainly didn't with certified lover boy. Did you know that Kendrick Lamar put a record out three weeks ago? And I could imagine that Drake is going to just hit us again by the end of the summer with something else if he wants to. He already mentioned on radio that he was going to drop another scary hour. So who knows, but I will be interested to see how people feel about this a once it does get some burn in actual clubs RFP can folk as a lot of people tweeted when this came out, but also just, yeah, how this works in the long arc of Drake history, because I think 2 a.m. from bed, 7 a.m. from the hotel, that's not where this album will live ultimately. If it lives at all. And to that point before we go, I was DMing today with a couple different DJs who both said that these records were effective in a club environment this weekend and also it opened up the set to much more dance quote unquote music. It did for dance when he was a kind of what Dua Lipa or Doja Cat couldn't, which is basically bring it back to black tradition, bring it back to black queer tradition and tie it into like these broader hip hop and R&B quote unquote open format sets like moving back in that direction. So it would be interesting to see what the summer sounds like and I hope to see.
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"Me so much joy just know that the sweet like chocolate, CD single came out. Actually came out after I moved out of London, but I went to the local garage record shop and I convinced them to sell me an early copy of it because I pleaded I said I'm getting on a plane back home and I have to bring this with me. So do we think that Drake has been listening to pink Panthers? Oh, a 100%. He's making different choices than she is, but I wonder if he's into that. You know who else he's listening to? Doja Cat. Wow. Wow. You think? Yeah, you don't think so? I mean, if it was the Doja Cat school of dance revival, I think we would be getting bigger disco Y shinier songs. But it's more the concept. If you Drake and JoJo gotta have a tremendous amount in common, they're both legitimately good rappers who are not necessarily giving credit for how good rappers they are. They both are thoughtful, maybe not the most powerful singers, but thoughtful singers, considered singers, right? They make music that's fundamentally hybrid that is often critiqued by people who are preoccupied with purism on one side or the other. They have a lot in common. There could be a best of both worlds, Drake and Doja Cat, and you can end up with right, you can end up with everything that's on the one side, you're gonna have like immortal technique type records. And on the other side, you could have like chic records, and it would all fall within both of their skill sets. So I think maybe paying attention to that a little bit and saying, huh, that's a viable pop direction that's happening. I am, I can not continue to make drill records. Like I can not make, I can not make. And this is here's a little look into the process. I had to drive home from my trip because my flight was canceled on Friday. And I was voice memo. As I was listening to the Drake album and I voiced my I was like, this is an anti droll record. This is like, would you put in the review? Yeah, which I put in the review. But it's like, it's reckoning with the inevitable direction. In the review, I talk about it being his children's children. Because obviously his children are as inheritors, we've talked about them ad nauseum. We've written about the medals. His children's children are like, I don't want to do this anymore. What can I do? That's disruptive. And I think obviously drill in the kind of like Pop Smoke crossover context would have gone in a similar direction to what Drake is doing, but I think when you think of like K flock and younger, people who are in their teens or late teens right now, those aren't the records that are being made. They're being made with speed, but they're not being made with the same kind of like toolkit that Drake has provided a generation of musicians. And I think he's very mindful of that. Being like 40 years old, doing drill records. You know, I don't know. Maybe that's not forehead. I agree. And there was another piece of Twitter criticism of this album that I thought was spot on. I think this morning from kazim, Samuel eday, who said we're at the point of a Drake album cycle. Yeah, real life cast. He said we're at the point albums like or women tell you now, this is actually fire. And in the end, that's kind of all that matters, right? And I think if anyone believes that making songs for women is not pander, but a purpose, it's trick. And I think it does go in the face of a lot of the hip hop we're hearing of late, which is not to say that women don't like it, but it is extremely male, extremely aggressive, extremely raspy, full throated, and this is, this is the total opposite. And you're right that Drake never really could have dipped into the current drill. Drake was making drill records two, three, four years ago, but he was doing it from the UK side. Obviously, he's worked with 5 U, you know, Dirk late, you know, late drill, whatever. But I have a memory of, I think it was Shawnee bin Laden's manager. Posting on IG, maybe pre COVID even or early COVID. Drake someone had filmed Drake. Maybe it was Drake's own IG or alive or something. Listening to Sean even bin Laden in like, again, 2020 or 2019. Of course. Of course, he's listening. He hears everything. He hears everything, it's very proximate, and I'm sure like a technician. He's like puzzling out. Like, how do I, how can I fit in? How can I work with? How could I adopt? How can I Migos Versace this? But we may be at the end of that particular arc of Drake. I don't know. He may come back with an entire drill record for all we know, and to be honest, if anybody is likely to be the person to figure out, oh, I made a New Orleans bounce song number one. I bet I can make a K flux on number one. It's probably going to be drink. But I shall know if that's really what he wants, or even if that's at this point in his career sustainable. I mean, to me what I thought. And I think we talked about this on a mailbag episode. Can you imagine like a legitimate Drake afrobeats album? Like all Nigerian producers. Obviously 40 overseeing it. But all Nigerian producers all Nigerian co writers and collaborators. Maybe some British stuff going on just to kind of like salt the Diaspora a little bit, all of that together. I mean, that's like a number one album for 6 months. That's the actual direction that all of this stuff should be going. I think you're right. And I think this is more of a left turn than that. And yet, you still have these records on year that are Drake being Drake, right? Right in the middle, smack in the middle of this thing, you get sticky, right? Which is the middle point between the dance experiments and a Drake hit, right? Record. Of course. And then, of course, you get the last song Jimmy cooks with 21 savage, which is just a Drake hit. A normal Drake hit, and it's the first time on the album because the album is not lyrically specific and temporally contemporary in the way that a normal Drake record is. He doesn't get to sort of address why he's making it until the first line of the last song when he says F a pigeonhole. I'm a night owl. This is a different mode, right? Like he's saying like, all right, you guys didn't like certified lover boy. Here's a hit that's gonna be on the radio all summer, me and 21 savage over play a fly. We did it again with the Memphis stuff. It's a different mode. I'm a had to make a pen of 6 on a pinky toe. Heard you with a shooting guard. Just letting know I would have your court side. Not the middle roll. All good love in a minute though. Before we continue, just talking about hip hop for a second. And I think we also have to get into the Azalea discourse for just like the fleetest of moments. But let's listen to let it roll by Doug lazy. Give me a mice. I get high. Dog lazy and spotlight. Ron spill. I get ill and watch the records turn like a windmill. I'm on track. When I hit this as a matter of fact, I don't miss this target. I score like a marksman, break down and I'm hip house was a thing in the late 1980s into the dawn of the 1990s. There was a brief moment, never had huge mainstream center success. You can see flickers of it in some of the crossover like club oriented rap, rob base and DJ EZ rock, not house artists by any means, but in terms of club and tempo. That was stuff that was moving. And then there were actual House productions sort of at the dawn of what we think of as house and techno, where people were wrapping over those beats. Obviously, it's not the most storytelling rap necessarily, but like this was a movement. I don't know if Drake is listening to Doug lazy. I don't know, but highly recommend it by all means go listen to Doug lazy. A lot of fun. But do you think Drake is listening to Azalea banks? And I think Twitter also is very curious if Drake is listening to Azealia Banks. Because I feel like one of the recurring tweet streams was basically like Azalea you can teach you how.
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"Dragged out. Maybe we should probably listen to a bit of it. Yeah, let's listen to the outro. Falling back home falling back home for me back over here follow me right and.
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"I often think that if we're talking about like Drake, the layering of Drake albums, often I'm thinking that the primary part is this kind of like undistinguished cloud of mood, whether it's synths or like a guitar or like weirdly tuned pianos or whatever. The bed is the dominant effect. The drums propel and the vocals are deliberately woven into that bed. This is maybe I don't want to go so far, say, is the only time but certainly in recent memory where I feel like the beets are doing a lot more work than the kind of bed. Even though the bed is there a lot of these songs. But the beats are doing a tremendous amount of work, and that's, I think, a perspectival shift for Drake. Because I don't know if it's, hey, we're rushing this. I haven't written the songs really thoroughly. Let's give a physicality to the energy. I don't know. I don't know if it's like, hey, everybody's locked in and this is a summer album, and we're about to go crazy. Let's have something that knocks in the cars. It could be that, but I was really surprised because as good as the drum programming is on Drake albums, I don't really think of it as percussive music in that heaviest sense. Totally. And I think the choices that he's making vocally are that they are choices, right? Like he's doing the same thing more or less over most of these songs. And that's cutting out things that he relies on. These sort of R&B lilts, the instinct to go staccato and make little hooks or switch up his flow, even when it's sung, you know, he's not doing that. And I think the lyrics are simplified. They're very general. They're very mood based. They're not specific in that normal Drake way. They don't take you away from the music, and they don't really even they're not the thing you're paying the most attention to. There's not a lot of narrative. I pulled out a few lurch for the review that felt like very, I think I called it Instagram caption error Drake. There's still like a sprinkling of that, but it is by no means the dominant thing that he's doing. If they are smears, it's like he's, I find Drake's best writing, painting with very thin brush. These are like house paint brush lurks. Totally. And it's taking me a lot to get used to it, to be honest. I would say the first 5 times I heard this album, I didn't think it was good because of the vocals. I feel like I'm just starting to understand it. And I think a lot of the rejection of this album that you've seen so far online or because it's just not something we've heard from Drake in terms of execution. And to me, it's the first Drake project that's better in concept than in execution. Usually, people's frustrations with Drake is a lack of concept, a lack of cohesion or a reliance on things he's done before, right? A sort of hodgepodge, but it's always well made. Like you're never like Drake didn't do this on purpose. Like he always is, he's always doing exactly what he meant to do, even if you don't think that idea is good, but to me on a craft level, this feels like slightly sub par based on the level he's set for himself. It feels like an exercise, right? Like demos, like experiments, improv. And again, I think it's a choice. I think if he wanted to make this album, if he wanted to add one hook like the feel no ways hook into every song on this album, he could have, but he didn't, and I'm curious as to why. But to me, this is a choice that has a lot to do with the world that he has chosen to move into. Just dance music, which is sweaty. It is immediate. Obviously there's narrative in vocals of a lot of club songs, but it's not necessarily driven by narrative as much as it is by mood, texture, scale, ambition, things like that. And so I feel like part of Drake's chameleonic gift is to create credible genre adjacent songs, whatever the genre that he is moving towards. And I think making a quasi Jersey club record that sounds sweaty, that's okay. Drake is willing to let go of some of that perfectionism because it suits the production. I don't think if he was tossing off, let's say it was a 9 month gap and he put out an afrobeats record. I don't think he would have had the same focal approach. I don't think he would have had the same songwriting. And I think we know that Drake's good enough songwriter that if he wants to sit down and pull together like a full narrative for each of these beats, he could do that. I mean, obviously, you know, you saw 40 on Instagram, posting some stuff from the last few days. Obviously, this was cobbled together. I don't know if it was in two weeks or two months or 6 months, but it was a relatively quickly pulled together project is what it seems. But I think that choice was deliberate and extremely in keeping with wanting to make a record that could be perceived as credible by the communities that he was making music in communion with. Even if he didn't use a Baltimore club producer, quote unquote, a Jersey club producer, there's no Mike Q records on this. You know, there's no ballroom producers or anything. Just in terms of its timeline, there are a few references that date it within the last at least four weeks. You have references to Young Thug. You have an adult reference on there who recently won a major. The only one that's slightly out of time is when he mentions that James Harden stepped back on liability, which hasn't happened for a few years. So I don't know if Drake is too busy playing in his own basketball league to be watching NBA games. Sidebar does James, that's a move that James Harden doesn't make anymore. Or it's like referring to a specific thing. It's something that he was once known for that he now struggles with, which maybe Drake can relate to. Welcome to the ringer podcast network. We're John and Joe. And we're here to talk music in sports. But I want to go back to what you said about it being credible to the people he's referencing because I think that spot on and often what Drake has done when he borrows from subgenre from underground specifically is smooth down the edges, right? And make it palatable to much more people. He makes it Drake. He makes it pop, he makes it hit. He makes a New Orleans bounce song, the number one record in the country for weeks on end. And I think you're onto something that what he's doing here is specifically trying to make it grimy. And a little bit difficult, right? This is the first difficult Drake album to me. At least as far as Drake albums go. You find it goes down easy? Yeah, I didn't have any of the anxiety that I think you had those first couple listens. Like I didn't have that. I just genuinely felt maybe partially because I was in a kind of like liminal place when I heard it. Maybe if I was like sitting at my desk or even in my own car, maybe I would have been parsing it, but I think maybe because I was feeling a little bit lemon though, I was like, yeah, sweaty, Drake club record. I don't know where I'm at. I'm out in the field. Yeah, absolutely. Phenomenal. Even something like the first full track, right? The first single, the one that came with the video falling back, right? It's the vocal production is grainy in at least part of his vocals. And he's singing behind the beat, especially in the end, like the outro that's.
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"This and the first one between, right? The top stop stuff. Although truly nothing in the Drake universe is tossed off. It may be advertised as tossed off, but it is not in fact Oz and I do think part of the thing, it's not just that the albums are considered to be worse, the build up to the it's he's setting himself up for failure in a way. Always. Because he's always being like, this is coming. Views is coming. Scorpions come in. And at a certain point, you kind of exhaust your goodwill a little bit. Even for someone like Drake, who is like very widely admired and liked and generally respected, except in certain oddball circles. But it is a little bit of a, this is maybe the first time in which it's an album, but I'm doing it tonight. It's serious, but it's tossed off. Exactly. And then immediately when you have some head scratching when people hear it and they're like, wow, this is not what I was expecting from Drake, let alone a Drake capital a album, then you immediately have the sort of course correction, right? And if you follow DJI academics, to me, do you academics is like the Fox News for Drake, right? If Drake is Trump, then Fox News is DJ academics. So you sort of know what the party line is by what is being broadcast from someone like that. And immediately you get a clip of Drake partying that night saying like, oh, you guys don't get this. You're just behind the wave, like you'll catch up. We're already on to the next one, being like, oh, we don't even care about this. A couple of days later, you get academics saying, again, and I don't know who his sources are on this era if he even has any, right? But he's saying, this is actually a mixtape. It's just that Drake signed this new record deal. Right. He needs to fulfill albums. So this is, you know, this is a mixtape wink wink, you know, whatever. These words are meaningless, but I think that you have seen a bit of people putting their thumb on the scale in different ways about what this project means. To go back to your initial question, I do think that it is an experiment. It's tossed off, it's demos, it's not, I don't think we're going to hear a lot of this Drake in the future more than we have in the past, which is interesting. Which is fairly often. If you go back through the catalog, there's two or three of these on every album. Exactly. So I did today something that I did and, of course, it always comes back with Drake to Taylor Swift. But when Taylor made folklore, we said, is this a new direction for Taylor? Is this her taking an old direction further? And I made this playlist called the folklore, which was like all the songs previously that I felt led up to it. So I did the same thing today with Drake going through all the projects and the Lucy is taking like the songs that I feel like led to this point and you're right that there's two to three on every album and they're not always where you remember them. Like weirdly views might have more of them than more life. More life is like a is like a British rap album more than it is a dance album and views is a dance album more than it is like this chilly wintry album that it's remembered as. And I think a lot of that has to do with marketing. Drake is so famous and also so invested in pruning the shrubs of his public image in an active way that he just goes his music is taking this kind of path up down left right down at all. The way that he is selling her advertising it is not always in line with that. And because he's so effective at delivering that message, that kind of chasm is almost always there. I'm forgetting the song on the current record, but there is one song in the current record that to me uses the same.
Popcast
"nightclub" Discussed on Popcast
"Distance between us there's no place I'd rather be. You know we had to scramble the jets. There's a Drake album that's called honestly never mind. It came out on Friday after being announced a few hours earlier. You were listening to flights booked coming in. This is a Drake dance album, which at first seems like a hard pivot and is a bit of a pivot if you think about the big picture, but also Drake has been telling a story about the intersections. Certainly of R&B and dance music and also a little bit less so of hip hop and dance music. Drake's been telling that story on and off throughout his entire career. First segment is going to be your friend of mine, Joe coscarelli, coming to talk big picture about the album, and then on the back half, Lawrence Bernie is going to call in. And we're going to have a conversation about Drake's use of Baltimore club, Jersey club, and also tell the story about how those genres have intersected with the mainstream on and off for the last couple of decades. But first, Joe is here. Guys, hold on a second. I don't mean to be an a hole about this, but are there only 14 songs on this new dress? I am being serious. Do you feel like there should be 28 songs? Are you confused? It's Frank Ocean. It's endless and then there's a blond like hovering around the corner. You think? Yeah, I don't know. I regret having it's true. A Drake album under an hour. Yes. Although on the dance floor music, lasts forever is I think what I would say. Joe's here, hi, I'm back. Freshly shorn, freshly vacationed. Joe, where were you if I could ask such a personal question? Where were you when honestly never mind? Because I'll tell you where I was. But where were you when honestly never mind dropped? I was in the Medina in tangier Morocco. When I got when I got the news that the Drake album would be dropping, got a DM from my friend Brett, big Drake fan, shout out to brat. And he was the one to break the news to me. So then I was 5, 6 hours ahead, so I went to sleep. I woke up in a hotel, you know, 7 a.m., bright and early, still a little, you know, my internal clock was off. So I was first one down to the breakfast buffet, and I was sitting on the patio overlooking tangier, having some coffee and croissants listening to it, a new Drake element laughing to myself as I was realizing what was going on and what kind of album it was going to be. And then only a few days later, did I realize that I'd been listening to it wrong, basically? Because actually, I didn't think I'd ever say this, but a Joe button tweet, really caused me to reevaluate my feelings about this Drake album and come in with fresh ears. Did you see this tweet? No, I only saw the academics post, what did sir button have to say? I think Joe budden tweeted, I'm trying to find the exact words, but he said something like you guys are reviewing a dance album from bed at two in the morning, LOL. Wait, did he wait, did he mean bed the location or bed the club? He did not meet love. He meant one's bed. One's laptop and one's bed. And I realized that 7 a.m. at a, all you can eat breakfast buffet in Morocco was just a weird head space to come into this at. To be fair, Joe budden was tweeting about me. Yes. You and everybody else. Yeah, I was in a hotel room in Richmond, Virginia. I downloaded it when I was driving back to the hotel on my phone. I was downloaded onto my phone. And I started playing it in the room as I was like, I had gotten to the room late. And I was unpacking. I started playing it. And I'm listening to the first song or two, and I'm like, how did where did the algorithm take me? The algorithm started playing a different album. Like it's just not the Drake album, like the vocal treatments, like none. This is not a Drake album, or maybe this, maybe the intro is from a Drake album, and then it like put me somewhere else. But in fact, a Drake album. Honestly, never mind, a New York Times critics pick. I should add. Drake 7th studio album, whatever that might mean in the Drake is, in fact, a dance music record that most people reviewed from bed. It is basically mainstream house music. It's like kind of, there's Jersey club in Baltimore club. He's nodding to African dance music, whether it's Afro beats or piano. So like tiny touches of ballroom, tiny touches of ballroom in there. And it's a full album of that. This is not something that Drake has not done before, but it is certainly the intensity in the fullness of it is something he hasn't done before and kind of coming on the back of certified lover boy, which I think is universally regarded as fairly bloated and end times, album, which I want to talk about. We'll reassess that, but the universe, I think the general take is that that felt like the end of something. This feels like Drake's, I don't want to say it's a full pandemic pivot, but it is Drake's, he is shaking himself out of stupor and by extension shaking us and everybody who looks to him for cubes out of their stupor. I think that's right. Total palate cleanser to me. I think, you know, we're 9 months from certified lover boys. Yeah, it came out in September. This very similar time frame to when more life came out after views, which was also seen as a bloated disappointing end times Drake album that had been highly anticipated, which, again, something worth talking about, but basically the same gap in time, right? When you get this dance inflected palate cleanser for after a big major label album album, I will give the exact word of the job I didn't tweet since I found it, 'cause it's well written. I'm a paraphrase what's in his good. He said, critiquing a dance album in bed at 2 a.m., don't sound nuts to y'all though. Question mark? LOL. Which, you know, did he tweet that at 2 a.m.? Probably. I think it was maybe a day or so later. Oh, okay. I didn't know if it was a contemporaneous tweet. So palette cleanse, yes. Now, obviously, we are in the Drake thinking too hard. Industrial complex. That's part of what we do. Oh yeah. Personally and professionally. Yeah, and whatever other categories there are that have yet to be determined, much like digital revenue following CD vinyl and cassette. Some future revenues. When I was listening to this record really with clear ears, I was trying to think about something that we've talked about on podcasts previously, maybe on a mailbag episode or on the last trick on prior drink episodes, which are what are viable pathways forward for Drake. In middle age, you know, he's 35 now. Drake is someone who is astonishingly astute as a listener is very curious. He has an incredibly flexible vocal style, but he's largely applied that over the years to hip hop choices and by slightly to R&B choices. That's going to run out at a certain point. Is this to your ear the point where you think the pivot is really in another direction? Like after this, are we not getting Houston Drake Memphis apart from Jimmy cook's? But are we not getting that anymore? Or is this kind of the weekend, the dot FM thing, which I was born in the pandemic, I need to try to do something and I'm not touring, and it doesn't matter if this thing hits or not. At least that's the story that they're telling. I think they probably thought it was going to hit a little bit harder. I think you're right that there's definitely been immediate managed expectations after the fact. I thought it was very pointed that when the album was announced, it said, Drake's 7th studio album, making very clear. For someone who has often blurred the lines between project mixtape Lucy's album. And he's always been very playlist about playlist, right? He's always been very deliberate about what the capital a albums are. And I think that's often served him poorly because those are the ones that are seen as disappointments, especially post take care, right? I'm thinking views, scorpion, certified lover boy. Those are the ones that are called bloated. Those are the disappointments. Whereas the universally praised ones over the years have been stuff like more life and if you're reading.
Ghostly
"nightclub" Discussed on Ghostly
"Hash. Tag team skeptic. As always my skeptic bros. non gender specific rebecca is always going to be hashtag team believer or the believer gaels gender specific. I don't like it. i don't like. I don't like bro. I don't like any of it at all. Don't agree to it We're hash tag team believer but it's always great about having mondo on the show is he represents a probably most of our audience actually Which is the hash tag team. Twenty right now in the middle thank you mondo hash tag team middle even yeah So it's always great although you know what it from talking to mondo so far in this episode he seems to have really put on his skeptic hat today so i think you're gonna have some problems. Rebecca we're going to see aright so you wanna give us some evidence over its do it So you know as we cut showed in the history there. I am not focusing on the stories behind the huntings as far as people died because you know the fire or because there were bones brought their or whatever you know there's many of those stories and a lot of them have been disproved so what i believe. Can't be disproven is the experiences that people have had so exactly what paranormal spirit or event is causing. These things to happen may not be something we know for sure but i think we can know for sure that the reports are there so that is what we're going to focus on like. There is a reason people say it's haunted. That's because of the things that they see in here and just no i am. I have pulled several Things for evidence today but as always there are pulling any more that i just don't have time to get to in just so you guys know usually with the debate. I don't look at the evidence that rebecca's going to be presenting prior to the debate. It's take so this is this is not scripted. On my on my part so yeah well and and I just a acknowledge Out there. I mean there's been a lot of tv shows. You know that filmed excalibur including ghosted ventures. I know a lot of the stories though. Yeah yeah All right so. I one of the most common reports that you see is of candles being blown out on their own so actually found two comments related to this On a haunted places dot org one from former employees and one of a visitor friend of Of an employee and these comments were made two years apart..
Ghostly
"nightclub" Discussed on Ghostly
"I would imagine Even the deaths on the ground during the great fire have never quite been confirmed. There is a story at their. That's like people went in there during the fire like thinking it was fireproof but then i think it wasn't even built until like twenty years after the fire the unit. I mean there's some fact that impossible it was and you know. Here's the thing is that there are a few buildings like the water tower and stuff that survived The great chicago fire and they all have the certain look to them. and excalibur doesn't really have that same Sandstone ish kind of like trying to have that. Yeah but not but it but it is reminiscent of it at all right. So that's all. I have Do you guys have anything else to add about excalibur before we go onto the debate. I was actually just going to ask. Does anybody know what was there prior. Like what kind of building was there before If i don't think there was a building there prior. I think that was the first thing built on that particular landmark that site interesting. Yeah have or anything that would have been. There was burnt down in the fire right. Yeah yeah yeah it. It actually came about after the fire because there was a lot of locations that were opened in that area and stuff and But yeah. I don't think there was any significant building there. I mean probably you know native american burial ground. I'm sure or something like that. Yeah that's always the star. Yeah all right rebecca. Do you have anything dan. I don't okay so we're going to see you in a minute for the debate he listeners. Did you know there's a way to share with the world whether you're hash tag team believer.
Ghostly
"nightclub" Discussed on Ghostly
"Yep i mean you would easily spend one hundred bucks going out there depending pre game so don't know what that means. I mentioned that a lot of reasons given for x. Calibers haunting seemed to crumble as you look into it more. Rebecca has agreed that there are some myths. And we wanted to. Debunk these even before the debate. Exactly these are not to me. These are not under. Debate are And in fact some of this. We've we've hurt. So i am excited to revisit some of this so the number one thing that people say about excalibur about why it is haunted it is because they say that it acted as a morgue after the eastland disaster or As bob would say easter island massacre right of one thousand. Nine hundred three mondo. Have you heard that i have. Yeah and rebecca. I know you've heard it. Because i heard it too. And we. We discussed this with tony in our eastland disaster episode. It just simply isn't true. Although eight hundred and forty four bodies needed to be housed in nearby buildings x caliber or chicago. Historical society was not one of them. This seems to be a mix up because a lot of the pictures that see with the bodies on the floor are labeled as courtesy of chicago historical society and somewhere along the line. Someone probably just thought that that referred to the location but not the organization that supplied the photo. Yes so that's what they word. They were his a historical society of chicago right so they were. They took pictures of they. Kept them for posterity. You know but yeah the instead If you go listen to that episode. We'll tell you about some of the places where they did take bodies now the second one i had never heard of but We found it online. And i thought we would talk about it the bones of jean the line sure. Okay were once housed in the castle So this one has some truth to it. the line was an early settler to chicago and was killed by john. Kenzi in a drunken brawl wall anyways the bones were unearthed during the construction of the rush street bridge and presented as a gift to historical society and they were in the old chicago historical society building which became x caliber But they were moved when the historical society moved so they weren't in the castle. That was the name of it after x caliber right right so they weren't in that building And that would mean that. The ghost went with them right. I mean i don't know. I mean i suppose this is one where i'm like. I mean i guess you could say that the bones were but it seems kind of weird me think where the bones had been buried. I guess they they lived in this building for a short time before going somewhere else. But it's not in the same timeframe is people say so. It just seems very sketchy to me. And i'm not sure why they would linger in a nightclub with smoke machines and lasers a lotta energy cheesy deejays. That's just a weird gift to give. Somebody gave that they'd give do a cemetery no is that does seem really weird. I mean come on. The historical society was probably very happy to receive bones. I guess. I don't know. I don't know in this third one. I've actually heard before and i there's no way to prove or disprove this them. A lot of people have died tragically in the building over the years so beyond the tales of bodies in the building there are stories about people hanging themselves from the ceiling. Children dying elevator shafts and other tales that come up with a lot in ghost stories all over but in this case and most others. They don't seem to have any basis in fact even deaths on the ground which was a nightclub. There's going to be some deaths in a nightclub..
Ghostly
"nightclub" Discussed on Ghostly
"Fancy one now. It was by by hard rock cafe which is still there. Yes the rainforest. Cafe disney disney west business-class. Yeah the big ones among the big ones pizzeria uno do way Corner you gotta. I eat fish pizza in chicago. And i actually worked pretty close to it and would see it every day when i would go into work going to be honest. I know that there's You know Chains out there or you know other other ones it is. It really is different when you eat it at the original restaurant. Oh yes yes definitely okay so now if you look at the building itself or pictures of the building you would think that. The building were excalibur once was has like a huge history because it just looks like that kind of place it does and i was really hoping for that But besides the building being in existence for almost one hundred and thirty years and changing names like a million times. That doesn't appear to be that much of a history to it. unfortunately i it's located at six thirty two north dearborn street on the on the corner of Dearborn in and it was built in eighteen ninety two right before. Chicago's columbia. The world's fair making it a historic landmark and alan mark yes So as you'll hear several times during this episode the building was first the home of the chicago historical society after its headquarters burned down in the great chicago fire. And that's how it's listed on the national registry of historic places. The old chicago historical society building. Yeah so when you're doing research you know it's been so many different things that you can actually kinda. I mean. we picked excalibur because for us. That's how we think of it. You know how we know it but but it's been a lot of different things. Yeah not many people that are currently alive today would remember this building as the old or as the chicago historical society build. Oh yeah. I would had no idea. After nineteen thirty one it would change hands very often becoming The works progress administration. The loyal order of the meuse. That's my favorite. I could totally see that. Yeah i can totally see a two. And i would love to have went to one of their meetings or something The chicago institute of design and a recording studio mondo. Did you know that. No and didn't like what kind of recording. i've. I have no idea but just a recording studio interest. Probably old time radio things. I would imagine or something and it was also several nightclubs. I think currently it's best known as the home to one of chicago's most popular tourist attractions and hottest nightclubs excalibur. Right even though there's been other things in there since then i would say again. That's the most famous. it's absolutely. That's what that's what we all know it as excalibur. Even though there's i don't even think it says ex kellyanne the building anymore. No i mean again younger people in chicago. You may be like not what you're talking about. It's called something you know but you know what it is because of the shape of the building..
Ghostly
"nightclub" Discussed on Ghostly
"Now jerry we'll tell you that i was not in my right mind when i saw it but i know myself and i know what i saw. I'm sure of it. It was last friday night when i was out for my friend. Denise bachelor party at excalibur nightclub in the city. We're a little older than your typical twenty something bridal party but no still young enough to have some fun responsibly. Mostly the matrix honor tracy denisa sister send us up for excalibur famous bachelorette party show. We got to go upstairs private area while if you call a room filled with eighty women ready to go crazy private. We started with shots for the bride and ourselves. Of course the music was pumping and some girls were dancing in the center. Waiting for the show to start. I will admit that. I was starting to feel pretty good but not crazy. I mean the bride. Had everyone buying drinks. But i stayed careful with getting my own after a while the show started. I won't go into the details. If you've been to a bachelor party you can imagine. The kinds of things happening every by bride. Got a chance to shine and we were doing. Great as show was winding down. I decided to make my way to the ladies room before it got busy gun. Ladies you know what. I mean by that it took me a while to find it. I had to go down some stairs and it seemed kinda far from the action. But i was still surprised though to no one else in there. Here's kind of dark. But i was a little tipsy so i didn't really think about it until afterwards i did my business and went to wash my hands. Washing them thought. I heard something like laughter so turned off the water. Just when i thought. I must have misheard it. I heard it again laughter though it sounded like a little girl laughing i shook my head and i started looking around. No stalls had people in them. I asked hulo anybody here. More giggles.
KTRH
"nightclub" Discussed on KTRH
"He was leaving the nightclub space in midtown. In sports. Texans are introducing Nick Kiss Aereo as general manager. He comes from a New England where he was director of player development, He says he's not even thinking about player moves yet. We'll sit down. We'll have a conversation again. You have to start with your team have an understanding of what you have in place before you can actually project what's gonna fit into your building because area quashed any trade talks surrounding to Shawn Watson, saying he's our quarterback. Rockets beat the Magic last night. Final score 1 32 to a little bitty 90 Tomorrow night, a Toyota center. It's the Lakers pre game starts at 50 Clock on sports talk. 7 90 followed by the game and then we pick up the game later at seven o'clock right here on Ktrh. And today on AM 9 50 Kprc University of Houston Cougar basketball team beat to Ling Today Their final score was pretty impressive to 71 to 50 News on demand at Ktrh calmer Next updates at 8 30 breaking news. As it happens now we go back to the job, Paige show Sally Adams on Houston's news, weather and traffic station. Use radio 7 40 ktrh. It. Wait here that hunger calling your name and you need to get going. I gotta find yourself a books. Whether bin it up whether Begin something good. Listen, listen you for my machine They know halfway in between Gotta give me something before follow from the pickles in the hot mom. Dad. Oh, the horse of yours. And hit on down to Roy's. Yeah, it really Rogers restaurants, his steak and cheese sandwich. His bag. It's thin slices of beef steak with melted American cheese smothered with grilled onions on a roll and Roy's They say Hell, Iggy, and they welcome you Tuesday. So come on down, boys and Have a cowboy kind of be here. Steak and cheese need to please at Roy Rogers Restaurant's door Nash and Uber Eats are available at participating restaurants. Mm hmm. Across America. It's the weekend with Joe PAGs to talk to Joe. Call 805 01, 70 80. And now the weekend Here's Joe PAGs. Great radio stations across the land. Joe PAGs. Com Facebook, Twitter Instagram. The email.