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Ep. 257: MULLENS MANIA

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Ep. 257: MULLENS MANIA

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Thanks to the Thursday night game in in a little bit of an extended break for the forty Niners to at a good time. That's exactly right. So before we get into the final battle of the ban the game recap. I'm super interested to hear about how you're going to vote on I think prop seven because that's the daylight savings time one, right? I believe that is in. I you know, I've thought about it a little bit because Aaron is one of the places that doesn't do it. There are some drawbacks in both cases, particularly as a teacher. It's kind of nice right now when I go to school in the mornings that it's light out whereas just two weeks ago. I was getting to school rolling around six thirty or so kinda prepping and do an early bird stuff and his dark out and just sort of sets a sort of ominous tone. So I actually kinda dig setting falling back a little bit. So that I get the little bit of daylight in the morning. But I also understand wanting to keep it lighter a little later. It outta here with this politician answer. This non answer answer. It. You can't say both are. Okay. I I'm pinning it down in honor of voting day highly diplomatic. I think I I'd vote to keep it. Oh, man. Yeah. To get rid of it. Get rid of I'm I'm voting from afar with spirit only for California stuff because I'm over here voting in Texas elections, but it wasn't deed the battle of the bay. I have got a Turpin dream APA in American pale ready to go because that game was indeed a dream. I mean, we said at the beginning or in our preview we said the best quarterback is going to win. We just had no idea that best quarterback was going to be McMullan's yet. I did not see that. Come. I mean, I don't know that anybody saw it coming maybe perhaps accept Kyle Shanahan or assumed that he could make it happened on the less, but Nick Molins played. Not not lights out. But better than what the raiders could get their quarterback to play a whether that's coaching whether that's scheme. Whether that's other players around him either way. Nick woolens was the best quarterback on the field. And as a result. Like we thought the forty Niners came out on top pretty impressive while the forty Niners. Do indeed win the final battle of the bay the forty Niners one maybe their most complete game of the Cal Shanahan era. Their highest offensive output of two thousand eighteen thirty four points tied for their third highest offensive output overall in the collar Shanahan era. Of course, the Jaguars forty four points was tops Rams with could O'Brien Hoyer thirty nine points. And then the Rams again and that meaningless week seventeen game thirty four points the forty Niners defense had eight sacks. They are now tied Jared get this. They're not tied for seventh in the NFL. With twenty four sacks on the back of that aid sack performance and they had to turnovers in the game that plus two turnover margin incident. Really tied for the second highest total and the highest attorney over margin in the Shanahan era. Actually, that's surprising. Just because I don't generate a turnovers but overall in terms of a complete game. This was as big and as complete of a game as the forty Niners have ever put together in the Cal Shanahan era. And it took a pretty hapless Oakland Raiders team in order to do it. Typically, the forty Niners. At least recently have appeared to be this team the team on the other end of these sort of games. I mean this year it's been a better and their losses are tight and even the losses last year were tight as well. But sort of you you kind of been prepping or the that's the proverbial you prepping for the forty Niners being the team that sort of looks like they don't have the answers, whether it's because of the lack of depth or whatever it may be that turnover differential is absolutely huge because sort of efforts glance you think two turnovers not a big deal, but they didn't give the ball away. Really? And even the fumble that they ended up recovering was not a big deal. So that I the idea that they are sort of in the plus column any way you slice this game. As we saw turned out to be some. I mean, I don't know that anybody for predicted this kind of score this sort of apparent dominance from the forty Niners. And that was in all phases. Obviously the offense. Really exciting with Nick Mullins playing well for a week or at least doing well enough for a week. But defensively this was one of their best games in whether it's the raiders or not this NFL talent that the forty Niners went out in absolutely dominated in every aspect to have eight sacks in in really third of their sacks this season coming into the Oakland Raiders, whether it's stat padding or not the really impressive overall performance from the past Russian when we've obviously been on them a lot with caches Merced being sort of the guy, but I gotta give him some credit. He you know, he beat the guys that that the Oakland Raiders elected to line up across the line of scrimmage from him. So as you mentioned overall just any way you slice is an absolute complete dominating effort by the forty Niners in is kind of exciting. We said not a big deal. Final battle the bay. But in national prime-time, kind of nice to know that the forty Niners show up whereas the raiders, obviously didn't. One question for you about Nick Mullins, if you had to start a franchise right now would you choose to start with either Nick Mullins or Derek Carr? Go. Nimmo's? I gotta go with Derek Carr. Obviously, the Nick Molin story is very fun. And it's early on in perhaps he suddenly. You know, blows up all his colleague or peer from his Oma mater Brett farve. But this is one game as you mentioned against a bad raiders defense. I think Derek Carr guideline or not is working with a limited coaching staff because I've really just not impressed with Jon Gruden and what he's doing there and again defensively the raiders were absolutely atrocious. So it's not by any means all on Derek Carr. So I think I'd still take Derek are. Well, I think you're right to to choose Derek Carr. And ultimately, I think while yes, we joked a bit like the best quarterback on on Thursday wasn't Nick Mullins. He played a good game. But he he did exactly what the offense asked him to do. And that was just enough to beat up on the Oakland Raiders. I don't know that we are at the point where we're going to anoint Nick Mullins, a it was a fun game. But that's all it was. I think it's important context. The note that he's a third string quarterback. And I think that that's important to know only because that makes his performance just a bit more impressive. He had he wasn't invited to the combine. He didn't have. Predrag visit other than what the forty Niners and overall, I think you put it in that context and said, okay, actually, executing the offense may have been too much for a third string quarterback. And it's probably a lot for many third string quarterbacks in the league. But he did it against a defense. That is not good and a defense that where he was able to find wide open wide receivers. Nick Mullins effectively faced no pressure all might on Thursday. He was only pressured on three snaps. Three snaps not a lot. He did not have very many tight window throws. He only had three. He threw one to kill which was ridiculous catch by Gidel. I was absurd, but he missed on a back shoulder throw to Garson. And then he had an end zone throw that was nearly picked off and probably should've picked off. But overall what Nick Mullins did was he played average or at the expected level for an NFL quarterback and against the really really crappy defense and with a coordinator and someone creating off. Offense at the degree in school level to which Shanahan creates the offense. This is what you get. And that doesn't mean that Nick Mullins is phenomenal. It's a fun story. It's a great story. But this is base level offense if Shanahan has a quarterback that can execute. I would agree. I would also add that I think this highlights more. So some of CJ Beathard shortcomings in not that CJ Beathard is not a backup quarterback in the league. I think he's showing that he's good enough to do that. When Nick Mullins did do. Well, I thought was an I think some of this has to do with the fact that he like you mentioned that context that he's a third string quarterback. He recognizes. He's a third string quarterback. Right. These guys they have to go out and sort of make these wild plays. If he wants to keep his job because sort of sticking around on the practice squad and just being affective inefficient. There is never gonna give him the opportunity to ascend into either make the fifty three man roster long-term or eventually maybe not what the forty Niners, but to earn a starting position somewhere. What I thought he did. Well, was he took some risks? Is that a long-term sort of franchise quarterback? Jimmy Garoppolo might not even take the same risks because this sort of half to right? What's the worst that happens with with Nick Mullins if he doesn't play well in the game against the raiders that everybody goes always his third string quarterback Cal Shanahan's working with his backups backup? What could they possibly do? Nick Mullins doesn't have any career starts. He wasn't even drafted. You know, all these reasons for him not to be successful. Whereas when he succeeds, it's, you know, now, there's this national storylines. There's really not a whole lot of loss potential there for Nick Mullins to really rip the ball. In n let it go particularly the throat, George Kittle, which was a remarkable play more. So from Kittles perspective because I think maybe ten receivers whether it's titan or receivers, I think ten receivers may be in the league are willing to actually run over the middle like that in that traffic in space and still even put a hand out to potentially make a catch with what seemed to be sort of imminent contact. But the fact that Nick Mones through that ball is pre PR. Pretty wild. I don't know that there's many legit starting quarterbacks in the league that are gonna routinely try to make that throw. And instead, they might, you know, look look to sort of make the save check down throw Nick Mullins with nothing to lose. Probably not a great decision off, you know, sort of falling backwards, but let it rip nonetheless. I think as you mentioned this was more about what Kyle Shanahan can do with even average quarterback play an average offensive talent aside from George Kibble and his ability to when they recognize or when they play a bad team to just maximize everything in full throttle people. I don't even know that I would necessarily say that it's that you could compare this one game from from Mullins and Beth entirely because I think that what makes J bathroom basically recoil and become you know, kind of third round crap. Rookie CJ Beathard is pressure. The and we saw what CJ Beathard could do at sea at peak CJ Beathard and that was the first half against the Green Bay game. Of course, he paired that with a terrible half in the second half against Green Bay. So I think that CJ Beathard has had a little bit higher highs so far this season than Nick Mullins. But if Nick Mullins can just continue to execute the offense like this in play consistently. Then I think that you abandoned the peaks and valleys of CJ Beathard, and you go with someone who's a bit more consistent because I think that Nick Mullins did some really nice things. He looked off the safety down the goal line on the touchdown pass to Kendrick born. Which is something that again, we talk about that. Like, it's to some this amazing thing, but this should be expectation for for above average quarterbacks. Right. It shouldn't be some kind of marvel to look up safety. And yet that's where we're at between suggest either Nick Mullins. I think when you look at the big time throw that Nick Mullins had. And this is a pro football focus rated big time throw. It was a dig to Garson on a dagger concept and Edyta concept is really a two sometimes three person concept where you have if you're counting receivers outside Enron. You've got your number one on the outside number two in the slot and the outside receiver ones a run the dig route the inside receiver runs a clear. Or a deep route. And basically what that does is against cover to which is the raiders are playing you had Richey James run that deep brought occupy both deep safeties. And then you had Garcia run that dig and it had just a bunch of space vacated but Leon hall, which Niner fans should remember him from last year. I still can't believe that guy's employed, but he he's an hook zone, and he gets pretty decent depth. He's really really deep and Mullins has dropped the ball overly on hall who jumps to try and swat it. But ahead of the two safeties and drop it right into peer on saints, which he does it was one of his best throws of the night. And that's what I think. I mean by it's it's someone who is executing what the offense is giving him and he did fairly. Well. And so I think when you look at those two things I think overall, I'm not ready to say like, you know, I it's just this world-beater performance. But he did what he needed to do to keep the team on schedule. And based on what the forty Niners do on offense. That's enough to beat bad teams and the Niners. We. I would hope at this point in their development should be good enough to beat really really bad teams. You raise a really good point with the this idea of the peaks and valleys that you're getting with CJ Beathard. I think you're right that CJ Beathard best. A what we've seen from him. When he's at his best is a pretty impressive player, maybe not a long-term starter. But definitely has the tools to play in the NFL. However, his worst is pretty bad. And you know, the five turnover performance against the cardinals for the entire team is what what lost that game in CJ Beathard to obviously directly impact that turnover differential, and if neck Molins as you mentioned can just sort of be consistent, and maybe every once in a while make these big time throws one two maybe three a game cow Shanahan's gonna do the rest, and it's going to get guys open with average at best talent in Nick Molins, maybe the consistency there because I don't know that not I don't know the forty Niners. Don't see Nick Mullins yet as a long term option at quarterback. I doubt they ever will. But maybe this guy really is the deal. However, there is something to be said for sort of consistency in knowing what you're gonna get every week and being able to operate in within that knowledge and do everything else right to put the team in a position to succeed right now. Nick Mones is probably the guy that does that. I think in in that case should get the starting nod. But I don't know that you know, you're looking at this guy, even as a immediate backup long-term. There's still a lot to be seen there some stuff that he does. Well, there's some stuff that needs to get cleaned up. And perhaps what might be best is to just have Kyle Shanahan keep doing his thing. Yeah. I think the one area where Nick Mullins really impressed me was his performance against the blitz, and this speaks I think to something that fans have identified, and I think a little rightfully so which is the speed of processing or the mental processing that Nick Mullins displayed in this game that we haven't always seen from CJ Beathard it. I think it's a little difficult to to kind of unpack in discern really what it means. For a quarterback to have really really quick mental processing because I think that lots of times this gets thrown in lumped in with kind of like you're a dumb quarterback. You're a smart quarterback you, and I think sometimes honestly, this has racial overtones. You're black quarterback of your white quarterback. But I think that that mental processing for a quarterback is something that you can measure, and that is something that is there. And when you look at the performance against the blitz specifically, Nick Mullins, performed really really well didn't get blitzed a lot. He was blit six times. But on those six blitzes he completed four passes of those six for eighty five yards, which was fourteen point two yards per attempt and one touchdown based on PF gray that was his highest graded split, which I think is is important to note because that's the one thing that's J Beathard did which was hold onto the ball too long. And honestly even Jimmy Garoppolo who had a remarkably quick processing speed and release time in the last five games of last season. Didn't really display that I think as much as we would have liked at the beginning of twenty eight. Eighteen so I think of Nick Mullins can continue to process the game as quickly as he did against the raiders. I think that bodes well for continuing to manage the game not make too many mistakes because he did have some turnover worthy throws. But I think overall that's the kind of consistency that you would want. And if Nick Mones is able to do this for the rest of the year, I think it's pretty clear that he becomes the backup to Jimmy Garoppolo. And with the amount of tape that he would have you could flip them in a couple of years for traffic. I think that's always been sort of the plan to in regards to CJ Beathard is let's develop these guys once they signed Jimmy Garoppolo long-term. That's obviously this sort of the go-to guy figure out who's going to be the long-term starter in in in any excuse me, the long-term backup in any case. You know, all of these guys get to the NFL by being ultracompetitive? They want to be starters. If you can if Shanahan can get enough on tape for Nick Mullins, CJ Beathard who whoever it is to flip them even for a sort of. You know, sort of to compensate what they spend at least on CJ Beathard in in the first in the first place, even even better, but to identify a potential long-term backup that could win games when called upon we had this as a couple of weeks ago. I think in regards to CJ Beathard in, you know, very few backup quarterbacks in the league are able to just kind of get inserted into the offense. And suddenly, you know, play like the starter never left. I mean, there's a reason that there's only thirty two starters in the NFL in. Sometimes I'd venture to say that we don't even have that many right now, but to have a reliable backup that may never actually be legit starter, but sort of adds, some consistency. Entrust their gives the forty Niners some leverage in comfort knowing that especially right now, if they're really trying to maximize or what appears to be, you know, when when John Lynch in Kashan in signed with with organization seemed like all right? We're going to really make a push this thing a backup quarterback. Hell. As we saw last year with the Philadelphia Eagles in having somebody that can get in there. And at least run the offense at a solid level is sometimes enough for for a good offensive coach to make successful. But it wasn't just the quarterback who had success against Oakland. There were also other parts of the team that had success against a a hapless raiders mandate. They are they're fully embracing the the full tank, but one of the areas, of course, that had some success was the forty Niners receivers they took advantage of about opponent and had one of their better games of the year. They really did in as much as the story line is about Nick Moen's. I think what the forty Niners receiving core did specifically to get open. And then maximize yards after catch was really really impressive on a short week where you know, guys bodies. Just don't feel right overall. They had an eighty three point two team receiving grade from PF, which is very high. That's over nine points higher than their second. The second best game that they've played this year which goes against the chargers, ironically, another or the chargers a solid solid defense. Good team playing well, but the forty Niners receivers did play fairly well against them earlier in the year the yards after catch though. And this is sort of ties into our discussion with Nick Mullins in regard. Nick Mullins Nick Molins threw for a total of two hundred and sixty two passing yards. But specifically between pure Garson Richey James in George Kibble, one hundred sixty two of their receiving yards came after yards or were yards after the catch meaning that peer Garson Ritchie James and George Kittle catching the ball, and then continuing to run and in some cases, that's Nick Mullins putting the ball in a good spot. But in a couple of these cases, I think that's the explosiveness or the ability of Richie James, particularly and George Kittle the raiders defense didn't play very well in on those three sort of major splash plays particularly Garcia touchdown the very long. Impressive cat from George kit. Where Nick Mones threw the ball and some crazy traffic, and they still completed the catch and enriching jeans fifty something yard reception. I think that there's an important discussion there to be had that while Nick Mones did really well, the one hundred sixty two yards came after the catch on those three plays that I mentioned those splash plays. It was like. One hundred forty nine yards or so so these receivers also really really made some impressive plays. And if we're gonna discuss it, this is Nick Molin sort of breakout game think we have to inherently discuss it. This is the first time that we've seen the forty Niners receiving core. Absolutely dominate somebody. Well, I think when a wide receiver is that wide open, and they're able to get that many arms after the catch. I think that's a testament to the way the offense is structured. I'm thinking of to play specifically one. The why the absolute wide open touchdown to peer Garson. I mean that what Garson literally had I I don't think there was a defender within what five ten yards of him even more. I went and watched the safety was was ten yards was ten yards away from paragraph zone in his momentum was taking him the wrong direction. And you don't even get that open in the big twelve in college. Like that some straight MAC bullshit. Like, that's that. You do not even see that in college. And that's how wide open peer Garson was. And I think that Mullins, of course, find. Ding him getting the ball to him and making sure that that's a completed pass is is not doesn't mean that moans is great. It just means he's able to execute. And that means that Cal Shanahan called a phenomenal counterpunch to a collection of plays in that opening script. And then I think of that that the play to Ritchie James, and that I think is a little bit more on Mullins because he does identify the blitz and he does throw it through the open receiver. But then I mean that receiver had off coverage all he had to do was basically running catch and then sprint in the open field in that again means that you've got Shane news understanding that he's got to put those concepts together. And Nick Mullins just took with the defense gave him. I think overall the receivers played well, but I still think a lot of this has to do with with the way the Cal Shannon's able to put his receivers in a position to succeed. He just finally had a quarterback that could distribute it. He finally did in. It was really exciting to see as you mentioned with with Nick Mones ability to identify blitzes, which you know, so much of what you what I think a defensive coordinator wants to do. We'll get into this more even later, but you wanna bring pressure on a young guy that you don't know what sort of live bullets Nick Mones is seen and his ability at least on four of those throws to identify where the bliss was coming from to get the ball out in rhythm. And then to allow the receivers to make plays is really impressive particularly this far as making plays just another week where George Kittle shows up as as who am I would say looking around the league right now, he's he's one of the best from a from a perspective that he he's the high. He's the best receiver on this team weakened weak out. He's the he's the most dangerous threat. He's a mismatch. Whatever you wanna label him. We've yet to see somebody really put the clamps on him. And in addition to that, he's comfortable blocking the forty Niners can leave him on the field at all times for any reason. Even. When they wanna mix in some of those backup tight ends to go with two tight end sets right now as you look around the league. I it's hard to see a player that is playing better than George killer. Who is just routinely making splash plays. Did you see that George kill judges like how how good he's playing by? How other type how many other elite tight ends are following him on Twitter. Like apparently after Sunday's game. Travis Kelsey started following him. And get it was like, oh, this is great. I've I've been following China's Kelsey for years. So now that he's following me. I know I'm doing well. I think there's a I can't remember who said that there's a quote from famous athlete, it may even in by athlete. I actually might be Dwayne the rock Johnson. But I think he says when he played football. He's an greatest you don't have to tell people how good you are they'll tell you. So I think George Kittles on the right track. There you know, now that he's making a little noise. People are starting to let him know how good he is. But just overall an impressive player that coming out of China in a scheme that just doesn't highlight. Particularly tight ends. But really out boundary. Skill players in any regard. The fact that the forty Niners were able to get him when they were when healthy he looks like an absolute stud for the next four or five years. No doubt. And I do think it's important to note the talent level but Cal Shanahan is working with because he has remolded and reform this roster and the players that he's doing this with our a third string quarterback that didn't get a visit an undrafted quarterback who didn't get invited at the combine a third round quarterback for the other half of the games that were well more than half. Again. We're talking about. Matt breed is an undrafted free agent. George kills a fifth round tight end. I mean, the wide receivers were effectively scrapheap wide receivers peer or someone was considered a bit over the hill. Markings Gooden was considered just the deep threat Richey James is another late round draft pick. I think he's a fifth rounder. Trent Taylor's fifth rounder. He's not doing this with like pedigree talent. And yet he's able to be in the upper third of the league and explicit plays. His. His offense of Devi away is beyond. I think what the talent would give him his PF f grades are really really good. And I think it's just because he's able to maximize what these players can do. But I think this is also where you see a little bit of the marriage of the scouting department. In addition to what Cal hen wants from these positions and wants from these players, you see a bit of that combination of able to shine through in the way that Shanahan's able to deploy these players. So I think you look at the offense of success any offensive success that we've had this season is really a testament to both Cal Shanahan and how Shanahan has worked with front office. The we've had this discussion before, but this this sort of cohesiveness in an organization is critical to the sort of overall success. And like you said what they've been able to do really on the fly because you couldn't predict obviously the Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna go down. You couldn't predict jerick. Mckinnon really the free agent guide that they went after in terms of skill position. Couldn't predict that. He was going to go down. Dante Pettis hasn't played a lot as as sort of the receiver that they drafted obviously with his skills and ability in mind is far as what he could bring the Shanahan's offense. They're really sort of mismatching or sort of mixing all of this together. And it's morphed from what looked like it would be Jimmy Garoppolo in jerick McKinnon show to sort of using George Biddle as the focal point of this offense. And then doing other things around him in what he can do well sort of collectively as a team than to find some success. Obviously you wanna see it week to week play out in. There's been some issues with CJ Beathard at quarterback in in particular, some of their performance against their own a cardinals just a couple of weeks ago in they've still got some tests moving forward, but on the fly to do this is really really impressive. And it just in my opinion serves as a reminder that cow Shanahan. He's still in that top tier of not just offense of coaches, but have head coaches and in with even average talent he's able to. You know on the go and mid season continued to adapt and continue to make sure that his scheme is successful, which is really really difficult in the NFL where every team is fielding elite player, you know, above average players sands. Maybe the the Cleveland Browns from time to time. Now, this is still a bad Oakland team rather than we're not sitting here and saying that Shannon is ready to take the next step into being like the taking the team the Super Bowl or something. But I think it is important for teams to beat up on teams that they are better than when you're a good team. And we talked about this during the Harbaugh years, you should be able to beat and dunk on the teams that you were clearly better than it's when you then go up against the team that is equally talented or more talented that things get a bit more fifty fifty and in that kind of difficult I could win. Maybe I don't win kind of range. But ideally, the next that for this team is not to go eleven and four or ten and six, but it's to start convincingly and consistently beating team. Games where they are at either a coaching or talented advantage. And hopefully that talented advantage becomes a bit greater soon. But right now, I think the Niners have a clear coaching advantage for several teams in the NFL. And that I think is what showed in the game against Oakland. It absolutely did in. Once this talent is able to sort of match other top rosters in the league. In particularly looking at the indecision rival saints or excuse me. Rams the saints in a conference as well. But not not in division there. But nonetheless, those two teams for roster perspective seem to have better talent when the forty Niners are able to match some of those teams is exciting to think about what caution hand might be able to do. All right now, let's talk a little bit about spotlight players because then I've got one on defense and you've got one on offense. And while we're not talking a huge amount about the defense in the the recap of the Oakland game. Because Mullins mania was definitely the story. I do think it's important to highlight one, Mr. Dakota Watson every time. I think of this name I just think of that scene in coming to America as like crown heights. Ole miss the Randy Watson, that's what that's how I want to say. His name all the time to coda Watson. Putt. He basically completely abused, whomever. The raiders put out at left tackle. He had two sacks four hurries six total pressures. He showed speed around the edge power to go through offensive linemen. And even showed a spin move. That was a counter that was pretty effective actually had the offensive lineman. Not trip them. This was Dakota Watson's I came back from injury. And he played really really well again talent needs to be kind of put into or this needs to be put into context when he was going up against. A raiders team that looks like they've just flat out given up. But I do think the coulda Watson's definitely going to be someone. I'm watching against the New York Giants because if he can continue this performance, we may have found an edge rusher that can provide a spark where the Niners have had no spark edge rusher up to now. They really haven't in a reminder that Dakota Watson also is a core special teamer. So, you know, year one two three maybe of this rebuild. He's a guy that's gonna stick around that could play on the edge could play a little bit of Sam linebacker for them. Finally, we get to see somebody that can legitimately rush the passer in, you know, not. So surprisingly the rest of the pass rush. Did did. Well, also, it was sort of a collective effort. Whether that's because Watson returned or not he individually played really, well, the group that he's a part of or sort of that that pass rushing group played well in she was a part of that suits going to be interesting to see how they play against the job. Giants in other teams moving forward, particularly when they see the Rams again and have an opportunity in division to make a little bit of potential noise. But nice to have him back. I saw something today that mentioned or a a tweet today mentioning that Dakota Watson said that the reason he felt so good was that he's actually dropped a little bit of weight from last year, and that he was playing at a little bit more of a lighter weight, which obviously, you know, turns up that speed athleticism a little bit which is really what the forty Niners need in this scheme in terms of pass rushing ability. Solomon Thomas is gonna win with a little bit of hustle and energy and effort incised inside Buckner deforest Buckner is gonna win with crazy power length a good hand usage. But they really don't have that sort of fearful speed rusher. Somebody that can routinely get around the edge. And if Dakota Watson, obviously, a veteran in the league, but if you can come with, you know, even some even some bit of Burson explosiveness off the edge, you know, within the first three or four steps whether he's going to be. This, you know, high number. I don't know that he's ever going to be a double digit sack player. But if his speed and burst off the edge is enough to give offense of line offense of line coaches in offense lineman concern than the forty Niners have already improved their pass rush drastically. It'll be interesting to watch how they continue to to rotate those snaps moving forward because this is now another player that seems to have earned some pass rushing snaps. So you're looking at Sheldon day, Cassius Marsh. Ronald Blair Dakota, Watson sold Thomas to force Buckner. Eric Armstead in trying to figure out who among these guys. Or what rather what group of these guys three or four can be our routine pass rush package on third down memory expecting pass. I think Dakota Watson even in one week. Whether it's the raiders are not has to have put himself squarely in that in that conversation as a guy you got to get on the field. I think that this is now year this is your eight for Dakota Watson he was drafted by Tampa Bay in the seventh round in two thousand ten so he's been around longer than I than I thought he was honestly it felt like he was like a four or five year guy. And he's never had a pass rush grade above what looks like sixty seven or sixty nine which was twenty eleven twenty thirteen when he was still at Tampa Bay. So what's the likely outcome? What's the likely scenario? Chances are he'll come back to earth when he when he faces better competition. But I think that this is the rest of this year is the part of the year where you should be tinkering like you should be trying different different alignments and be trying different things with players. I'm glad that tar Baroness more got a few snaps their in the fourth quarter to see what he could do in some games. Naps. And I do think that if anyone coulda Watson should take some caches, Marsha snaps to be honest with you. We know what we have in cash us. Marshon it's just a rotational guy. That's just okay. So, you know, I think you're right to say that the Niners should be tinkering and trying at this point because they've gotta figure. Out who they're going to keep and retain in give meaningful snaps to next year. When the Niners are really going to be under the playoff gun. Absolutely. You know without calling out Cassius Marsh too much. I think that's the guy that that has to see some of his snap count dwindle. And maybe quite frankly that make that might make him more, you know, sort of effective when Morsch himself doesn't have to be this. You know, forty five fifty snap player game. I don't know his exact counts. But when he's not always the dude in the one that has to sort of be expected to be the speed rusher off the edge. It might actually make him more effective when he's not in every down player are apple. Let's get to the person that you jinxed because you full on Jing someone before the the game. And now, they have a flailing arm, and it was disgusting to see and hear on the broadcast. So give us your spotlight player. I've got a spotlight Rahim most are in in some ways. This is a bit of an apology. I'm sure he listened to the podcast just like many other 49ers players and coaches, but while Robert Thala front of the now, absolutely absolutely. Not surprisingly the forty Niners. Offensive turnaround is coming at a time where we were specifically giving advice there. But absolutely just before most or got hurt. I tweeted something out about, you know, his explosiveness, and he had that nice long. Touchdown touchdown that mcglinchey really led the way for but nonetheless, you know, here's where he most on the field again making an explosive play when he touches the ball. This dudes getting seven eight yards of pop in a variety of ways. So I'm highlighting Abiola. I'm feeling good. Because here I am identifying talent in in the forty Niners. Got this this explosive backup running back. Give him some snaps over Alfred Morris and all this and then his arm Ben's in ways, you don't wanna see a band on national television with through was so gross. It what you can hear the snap on the broadcast. It was bad. And at some point somebody that works within the production departments has to say. Hey, guys, we're gonna show this everyone on Twitter's asking for a warning. So let's let's give an open broadcasts warning before we show, it it just this sort of silly the sort of wims ical nature with which they go. Hey, look at this home. Gosh is arms into it's sort of silly. But just before he got hurt I called him out hyped him up. And then he goes and gets hurt in. It's really too bad. Because he looked like he was at a spot where you know, in terms of overall career development. Maybe this guy's gonna take a little bit of a leap in in really become an established backup player in in a league that likes to go, you know, running back by committee earn himself some snaps above that. He was a he's a Pro Bowl special teams player. And I don't know that people recognize the there is going to be a drop off in a loss because he's gone be gunner. He is he's phenomenal. And there's not many players in the league that can do it as well as he does. And in the forty Niners are now missing that which will be a problem with him gone now it'll be interesting to see where they turn for running back help if it is to the practice squad. I think it's going to be Jeff Wilson from North Texas who I scouted a when I did some draft work with Matt Miller of Bleacher report, and he just he's just didn't look like an NFL ready player to me. He's about six-foot under two. Two hundred pounds about one ninety five and more importantly in addition to sort of being a taller and thinner. He runs very upright with a lower a lower frame or excuse me, a small lower body frame. And in addition to that North Texas had to put him on a fairly strict nutritional plan, his senior season just to keep him on the field because there were some wait a concerns that you know, you gotta you gotta sort of meet these thresholds to be able to deal with this abuse. I don't know that Jeff Wilson is gonna come in and be a starter long-term at any any stop. He ever has his in his NFL career. But as we saw rain Moser was getting carries and offered Morris was getting carries in Matt Rita. Every once in a while needs a breather in just Jeff Wilson's on the roster. He's gonna get curious curious to see what the forty Niners do here because making up for the loss loss of most or both as a running back in a special teams player is going to be really difficult while I think that the one thing that they can do is is a result of something that happened earlier today, which is going to be the. Of a mere of Dula by the Detroit Lions. And I think that you're absolutely right. Cal Shanahan does like to rotate his running backs. He doesn't at least from his Atlanta's. The now hasn't shown that he really likes that kind of thirty forty carry back that bell cow back. He's always had a rotation and that rotation even when Morris and most embryo were the backs they had a pretty clear rotation. Even if Matt Brita was the starter. And I think Amir of Dula someone who just kind of fell out a favor in Detroit he is on the last year of his rookie deal. So it's twenty eighteen I think it would it would really cost the Niners about five hundred thousand dollars base with the rest of his game checks to to claim him on waivers and get him on the team. And I think that's totally worth it. I mean, this is a player who is a much better receiver than he is running back. But that's a skill set. The Niners could really use that Breda has definitely done well to improve his receiving game. But the Niners could do. To have a receiving back come out of the backfield. And this is a player who has had a consistently good. You know, kind of season and years as a pass catching back. I think the Niners should definitely kick. The tires on someone like Dula wouldn't cost them whole hell of a lot. They are third and waiver priority right now behind just the raiders. And the New York football giants, who of course, we face here in in just a few days, but I would much prefer the Niners. Put it put an away vers claim on Amir of Dula before I would say have them kick up. Someone like Jeff Wilson. I agree with that in right now on MIR Abdulah still on his rookie contract financially not going to be too expensive. You know, when you when you bring him in either way so the forty Niners. You know, obviously McKinnon was a guy they signed to be a long-term back. No problem bringing Abdul in at least for the end of the year in it becomes an evaluation opportunity as well. Yeah. I don't know that to me in. I I really again, I think Alfred Morris has. That story that you really really like. But I think after this year, I would much rather see someone come in and play for his spot because I think between McKinnon Umbria you're settled at one and two I think most has shown enough to be number three. And I think you need some other kind of wild card to come in to try to end and compete with most. I think that seems to be more like something Beulah can do and not something that that Morris or even Jeff Wilson can do. So I think the team should definitely put in a claim for him. And I would do that even before I put in a claim for Bruce Irvin. I would as well one thing I want to note too. Because I know there's discussion or at least a, you know, on Twitter when I mentioned Amir of Dula. There was a little bit of discussion actually from forty Niners of former forty Niners defensive lineman. Ian Williams about the need to identify a bigger back that can get them some goal line carries. Matt breeder runs hard in between the tackles. And Alfred Morris deci just because you're you're big does not mean, you are an ideal, you know, big back inside and obviously Williams played at the highest level. So. I'm gonna I'm gonna tip my hat there. In terms of veteran presence in and give him sort of the the give him the pulpit there to speak or the soapbox. But I might add that in Kyle check is a pretty athletic, dude. And you could get some goal line carries out of him. If that's really the concern if you're looking for short yardage carries. There are ways to mix up a who gets short yardage carries it in. If Alfred Morris is only job on the roster is to be a short yardage back. Then that's not good because you know, you're you're third forcing running back needs to play more than needs to do more than that they need to be able to play special teams in otherwise be much more of a presence in other areas than just hey when it's something in short. He gets on the field. Would you rather have a good running back or a big running back? I'll take good, please, exactly. Because I think that when you're looking at short yardage relations. That's what matters more is. Whether you have a good back, and whether or not you have a good offensive line. I think that this whole like I need a big back thing is a bit of an antiquarian ISM. And it's something that people think you need to have in the NFL. But if your if you have a really powerful strong fast back they can generate power with speed. They can generate yardage through vision and your offensive lines probably the most important thing here. Anyway. So I I don't think that you need to have a big back just to have a big back. So I'm definitely I'm not on that train. I'm like give me speed and I'll generate some power through speed. Absolutely. And and with some of the versatility that you mentioned Amir Abdul a brings there's really this there could in theory be sort of a triumvirate among the forty Niners running backs should that be a trio moving forward that would offer cash in hand quite a bit offensively. And in you know, he's going to be able to ski. Team up you know, power and and short yardage success. I well this next game is going to be pretty important over the forty Niners because it is. Indeed, the loser's bracket of the civil at this point the Niners of beat the Oakland Raiders. And so we are no longer in contention at least right now for the first overall pick in the NFL draft. But the tournament is not yet over we still have another game to face the giants to basically now at this point settle on who's going to finish second in the NFL draft. Because of course, the Oakland Raiders right now own the rights of the first overall pick. So this is still a game that matters to drop position. We're fighting for the things that matter Jared, the these are the things that we have to latch onto and it sounds like Nick Mullins is going to start again. And so I think if the giants and your defensive coordinator James, you Becher, which I've given him the nickname you because every time I hear the name James Becher. It just sounds like you betcha. So I'm giving him the nickname you. So it's James. You betcha. And I'm thinking, okay. How's he gonna Anak? How's it gonna attack Nick Mullins? And the first thing he's going to do is. He's going to send a ton of pressure because that's something that James Becher does. Anyway. The forty Niners in we just discussed this in regards to how Nick Mullins played against the blitz. Thursday night to the pressure that Nick Mullins saw wasn't much. And so if there is in a highlight, unknown because I think Nick Mullins as a whole is still fairly unknown right after one performance, if there is an unknown or a more important, unknown. The giants have to be looking at this going. Okay. Way to go rook. Now, we're going to keep coming at you. And in addition to bringing that pressure Becher comes excuse me. You Becher comes from a goes, you gotta respect the brand respect brand. Absolutely. He comes from an Amazon cardinal system working with Todd Bowles in Bruce Arians that offensively Bruce Arians is a risk taker Todd Bowles, obviously moved on to be a head coach Becher still at the defensive coordinator position. But he's coming from this coaching tree or this this this this full. Lhasa fee that we are going to be the the ones making we're setting the terms of the game. We're gonna play by our by our standards and our guidelines and that inherently says this is a defensive coordinator this gonna come after a quarterback. Yeah. You know, when you look at Bechers history in Arizona. He worked with Todd Bowles in Arizona twenty thirteen he assumed offensive coordinator responsibilities in two thousand fifteen he is a kind of a longtime Blitzer of quarterbacks in two thousand seventeen the cardinals under Becher blitz. Thirty seven percent of the time that was tied for fifth in the NFL. And I really that was actually down from the year before where it was forty one and forty seven percent the two years prior to that respectively, and they led the league in both of those years this year, so far he's blitz. Thirty two percent of the time which is a little lower than what he did with the cardinals. And so far, it's not been terribly successful. But I think that this is a game where bettors probably licking his chops. And he's thinking I've got a young quarterback. I you know, he doesn't have a ton of game experience, I probably need to send more pressure. So if I had to guess, I would guess the giants probably end up a little bit higher than that. Thirty two percent that thirty two percent average. That they've had this year especially because again, the Niners wide receivers. If we've seen any pattern this year of teams that have been able to disrupt the forty Niners offense. It's where they're blitzing and they're just able to man up the forty Niners receivers and the receivers haven't been able to break away. And so I think if I'm Becher and I'm thinking of how I'm going to attack this offense. That's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm going to play press. I'm going to pressure and I'm going to blitz and I'm gonna make Nick Mullins process the game faster than I think he wants to and that fits well within veterans philosophy. And I think that's that. That's exactly how they're gonna come out the forty Niners. In terms of overall talent is well, the the New York Giants don't have an outstanding defense and the name of the game. You know to not great teams the forty Niners coming off a win. But obviously still a lower level team in the league still picking in the top five. That's that's what you do. I mean right with with poor talent. Especially the giants defense send pressure. Try to force this this, you know, essentially this rookie quarterback into mistakes because otherwise you don't really have the players to sit back and just generate pressure with your front and and play a lot of heavy coverage on the back end a lot of heavy zone coverage on the back end. And and pick this this, you know, pick these these throws off from Nick Mullins. They've gotta bring pressure. They've got to get the ball out fast one way or another because their pass rushes isn't particularly good. Otherwise, really sands Olivier Vernon who's their best pass rusher. But asides from aside from him. They don't look particularly good. They just shipped off Damon Harrison one. Of their best defensive interior defensive linemen. They don't have a particularly good group of inside linebackers. Don't have a particularly good group of of defensive backs. They just let ally apple go to the saints in obviously, he's struggled. But he was a a one first round pick at cornerback. So they're they're t-. They're devoid of talent. There avoided talent right now as well and to compete with the forty Niners. Not that the forty Niners. Great but to compete with the forty Niners in particularly particularly to compete with Kyle Shanahan. They're going to have to bring a lot of pressure. And as you mentioned it just so happens that philosophically plays right into what we apparently. No Becher likes to do. You know? What's funny is? I think that even though bet likes the blitz a lot that hasn't resulted in a ton of pressures for the defense because I think like you said that just they don't have a lot of horses. They don't have the talent they have ten total saxes here. That's thirty first in the league. They they have the twenty ninth grade pass rush grade based on pro football, focus, and that's for the team. So this is if Nick mullahs. Can have another game where he just doesn't see a lot of pressure. This could be another successful outing from Owens. And now this is of course, a home game for the Niners against the giants. They've got two home games the last I think stretch of their season. They've got more home games than they had a way 'cause that opening stretch was difficult. So I think you know, irrespective of how much better is going to blitz. The blitzes are irrelevant if they're not successful. And so far bet your hasn't been able to turn those blitzes into success. And so even if you blitzes a whole hell of a lot. I I'd be interested to see how the Niners offensive line holds up because the office of line has been a strength of the Niners or so far this year. Mike mcglinchey, of course, about a run blocker than a pass blocker. But you've got you've got some interesting. I think back and forth there, and I'd I'd be surprised if the Niners weren't able to handle some of those bullets schemes and give moans a bit more time. And then hopefully Mullins gives you a a little bit of what he gave you against the raiders. But all right. So if the if the giants are going to. Play some kind of kind of man coverage and do that kind of stuff. Then really what we've seen Shanna Hindu is trying to attack linebackers because they're the week coverage defenders especially in the middle of the field. And so what do the middle of the field defenders look like for the giants. And are they any good? They're not in in to be succinct. Obviously they've got other concerns on the defense as well. And as you mentioned if Becher decides to play a lot of man coverage or to really try to take away the middle of the field. He's going to have to send help because right now the players that the the New York Giants have over the middle of the field or not particularly good. I think this is another game where George Kittle plays really, really. Well, particularly because the New York Giants have Alec Ogle tree and BJ Goodson at linebacker and particularly Ogle tree. I've been on him since he was with the Rams I think he is a he is remarkably overrated in really it's it's all because of a hard knocks with the Rams, and they did wonderful job of hyping him up because they've got to create a. Storyline somehow and not surprisingly, she soon as Sean McVay gets there. He finds a way to get Alec Oba SRI out of there. He simply not very good. And and he does a wonderful job of appearing to be good in in sort of his around the ball a lot. But he makes what I like to call sort of cleanup tackles, which is not a linebacker that fills downhill sits in the gap at the line of scrimmage. It makes tackles this is a linebacker that makes tackles six or seven yards down the field after he's already missed. And so he's in technically getting tackle stats in the numbers might look good. But they're wildly inflated by generally four play right now. He just sat out there last game. He's hurt. But the they're sort of backups aren't particularly good either J Goodson the couple years in the league. But overall a very underdeveloped player. And then the other players that they'll play will be rookies as well. So overall in terms of match up advantage just player to player in where the forty Niners can find success over the middle of the field. I I have to participate this Shanahan is licking his chops. And some of these throws might not be directly tied to over the middle. But when those players can't you mentioned Leon hall earlier being able to drop into that that sort of hooked coverage zone and moons being able to throw a ball over him. A really impressive throw. He might not even have to make quite as impressive throws this week. Because those players those underneath players if they're these inside linebackers for the New York Giants, they can't get the they just they are not going to be able to run with George Kittle almost anywhere on the field. And I think the forty Niners if they're looking at a match up that they can exploit whereas Becher might say, okay. We're going to be able to sort of scare this rookie effective rookie, obviously, not a rookie. But more more or less. Nick Mones is a rookie a new player getting on the field facing a blitz and facing some pressure to try and throw him off his game, the forty Niners going to be able to counter that by going directly at the New York Giants inside linebackers, and what's interesting about Molins game against the raiders is that he really had. Success on in the middle of the field. He didn't really have a ton of throws out on the edges and the when you look at his throws on the edge of specifically in the intermediate areas so ten to nineteen yards outside the numbers. He didn't complete a pass he was offered to to the left side and over two on the right side. A lot of his damage was done in the short area of the field or in the middle of the field. And that's where I think if I were Becher I would probably force Mullins to the edges to the outside, especially if you're going to test his arm. I mean, there was a play that was incomplete that Mullins through in the in the raiders game. Where I mean, it was probably a little too far inside. It looked like it just didn't have enough zip to get out there to the outside shoulder for the wide receiver. And if I'm a defensive back, I'm licking my chops. Because if you throw if you try to throw in outside route, and the only place you can't throw that ball is inside if you're gonna miss miss out wide, and it was a little on the inside. So if I'm better, I'm gonna force them or I'm going to try to. Force Mullins into the throwing an uncomfortable spaces, and that's going to be near the edges on the outside. And I'm probably going to pack as many damn defenders as I can in the middle of possible. Because if Nick Mullins is going to find success against the giants, that's where he's gonna wanna find it. And so I'm I expect we'd see a lot of cover one a lot of cover one robber. And just basically taking away the middle forcing throws on the outside. And then probably bring in some pressure that hopefully Molins hasn't seen before. Nick Mullins for as impressive as he was on Thursday night. He's going to you know, you got tape in the league now, and nobody can adjust or catch up faster than NFL coaches will for the most part, obviously, there's still some boneheads out there doing things that make absolutely no sense. But you'd like to think that if you're in the NFL coaching you've got legit taped on Nick Mullins. Now, the giants certainly know exactly what they can expect from Nick Mullins. I think from a talent standpoint as you mentioned that throw that you're talking about just I think they even said it on TV broadcasts as well. In the moment, he could tell he just didn't have the arm strength at least on that individual throw in. It's a hard throw. That's why at the Columbine every every quarterback that shows up to the Columbine. They asked him to throw that deep out route because they wanna see if you know from one hash can you throw fifteen yards on a rope to the to the opposite side line. It's difficult throw. But the elite quarterbacks make it and the not elite quarterbacks don't in the one place. You can't leave it as you mentioned is inside. Nick Mullins kinda got away with one last week against the bad raiders defense. But now that it's been shown the New York Giants are obviously seeing that ain't gonna force a lot of those those receivers into the middle of the field and say go ahead, you know, or excuse me. Try try to keep those receivers from out of the inside of the field. Put defenders in the middle of the field and say if you're going to beat us you're gonna make throws outside with the hashes you need to make them down the field. And we're going to force you to continue to show us that you can do this. Because right now, it's too early to say if he legit Ken. Can the Niners really continue any of the defense of success against the giants? This is of course, a giants team that drafted a generational talent and saquon Barkley, of course, a running back that has helped them win. So many games wins above replacement are of course, the preeminent running back stat. And you can put at least what like six wins on saquon Barkley shoulders. That's that's how this works. Is. That is that what's happening. That's exactly how it works. Yep. Yeah. So basically, you've got the all jokes aside. The giants do have talent on offense. It's not at the quarterback position. But it is that the wide receiver position. And while I disagree with dropping someone like Barkley that high overall. He is still a talented running back. Do you think that the giants are going to have more success in the raiders on offense? And to do you think that the Niners defense will be able to hold that offense at bay enough to be able to kind of give Mullen some breathing room in order to give him, you know, kind of some. Some space to actually not play behind them scoreboard for so long. I think the giants will definitely find more success from the raiders in. That's just from a superstar perspective saquon Barkley generational talent Oto Beckham junior. When on his game is elite Evan anger him. The giants tight end is actually a solid receiving tight end in the second year in the league still kind of improving, but overall there are some more pieces there, I think if ectively the that the New York Giants can exploit I do at the same time think that Nick Mullins starts. Fortunately are coming at the same time that the forty Niners of playing bad opponents, and that includes offensively bad opponents. The New York Giants still are putting ally manning under center, and he's well past his prime doesn't look particularly good. And so I think this is a week with the forty Niners might be able to keep things going and really keep rolling. I don't know that it's going to be to the same sort of points. You know, keeping the point total as low as they did against the raiders. But if ectively being able to manage a game where Nick. Joins can continue to find some success. I don't know that the forty Niners at the same time. We're gonna go put up mid thirties again. But if they could put up three or four touchdowns, I think that's enough with a giants offense that has some explosive playmakers, but in totality really lacks the overall sort of affective Nessin, I think some of that comes from the the head coach lacks the overall effectiveness to legitimately compete long-term. And that's why the giants as well. As sort of in this loser's bracket for a top pick here. I think the forty Niners can continue their success Robert Sala over the last few weeks is really made an impressive of adjustment. At least what appears to be sort of overall what he's doing in terms of getting this forty Niners defense back on track. And it'd be nice to see them keep this going. Yeah. You know? I if I'm the giants I think I've got to go with a pass heavy run script because if the Niners do something. Well, it is played the run pretty well. I've got a ton of run defenders along the defensive line between Armstead Buckner Solomon Thomas in the run game. That's where he shines. Even if it's not as a pass rusher. And Fred Warner, of course is playing well as well. So I didn't go over all if the giants come out and try to run saquon Barkley down our throats. I think that's a mistake. I think where the giants have a marked advantage is in the passing game. That's what Odal Beckham junior. And if I were the giants I wouldn't line Odell Beckham out on the right side of the offense left side of the defense because the Niners don't rotate their corners. They don't have feel boundary corners or anything like that. They basically put Sherman out on the left side of the defense. And then they put Witherspoon or whomever solids rotating defensive back over on the other side. And so I think that if I'm the giants I'm moving back him around. I'm putting him in the slot. Matching them up against Witherspoon, and I'm targeting Beckham or Ingram over and over and over again, and I'm utilizing Barkley in the passing game whether or not the giants will do that. I have no idea. But I think that's where you attack the Niners is whether weakest I mean, you've got typhus Powell playing at safety due to injury. And he's just not good. He's not good. And so it would be surprising to me if giants came out and tried to run this kind of run heavy script because they really should be passing against the Niners. As all as all teams should at this point. They really should Titus pal. Another player that played good last week. His continued improvement is going to be important as you mentioned against a giants team with some explosive playmakers. That's that's the weekly too weak link to exploit absolutely. All right. So give me a matchup that you'll be watching this week as as you watch the Niners play the giants here. And maybe again, it's a win win game. If we win. Hey, we won fantastic. Let's be happy. And if we lose hey, better draft position. Right. So it's a win win game either way. But the game within the game who's the player that you're going to be watching in the Niners versus giants. I'm looking at Mike mcglinchey, and whether he can continue to play as well as he has of late to continue to be, you know, quietly he's not going to win. But in terms of overall play he's offense rookie of the year. Caliber his play thus far he'll be a more than likely going against BJ hill, the New York Giants rookie defensive tackle that they selected in the third round of APRIL's draft. Who's a good player? Played at NC state with Bradley Chubb and contagious street who the forty Niners a selected as well in the draft. But when he was coming out, he's got a great frame big powerful body, and has some weight room numbers that are pretty damn in. Passive, but on film, really lacked. The ability to anchor against the run where Mike mcglinchey shows the athleticism empowered at continually do that. Well, and if he can continue to do that this week, I think the forty nine or seven markedly have a really a really impressive advantage there. In terms of some of the the zone stuff that cow Shanahan can do where he can get Mike mcglinchey in George Kittle working on sort of those trae blocks where they then climb to linebackers. We already mentioned that the linebackers are week that sort of combo block. I think you're gonna see some really impressive movement at the point of tack of Mike mcglinchey comes with his best stuff. I don't know if Landon Collins is going to guard, George kiddle, but if he does and he lines up over George Kittle. That's definitely something. I'll be watching just to see kind of the sparks fly in that matchup. But I think for me honestly, and I've talked about it a little bit already. I'm gonna watch Odal Beckham against anyone because I think that Odell Beckham is going to be a true test for Witherspoon. And Sherman, and we'll be able to get a bit more about Sherman as well. As learn where Witherspoon is at in terms of his development because I think that Sherman right now is in this area where everyone thinks he's phenomenal. And he's playing it in above average level, but he's not playing lightsout shutdown corner. It's just that he's the best corner we have and why would you continue to attack Richard Sherman? When you've got easy pickings on the other side when you've got Greg me been Ocala Witherspoon, who's not been playing great. You know, why why going up against any path resistance when you can go the path of least resistance, and so that's why sherman's coverage great. I think is not nearly as high as his kind of coverage snaps per reception allowed that that's I think what explains that discrepancy. And I think that sherman's our best corner Yassin. So I'd love to see how he matches up against Oto Beckham. Because I think at that point it's kind of old savvy vet verses re like one of the top three receivers in the league. But I also would really like to see Beckham junior against Witherspoon to see how Witherspoon. Talent shines. He whether he can hang with one of the best receivers in the NFL. And so that's that's probably what I'll be watching. And then I'll, of course, be just on generational talent watch, and I'll be comparing Barclay versus Brita to see how those two players end up. But that's probably what all be watching most in this game saquon Barkley, obviously physically. Absolutely unbelievable. What he's brought to the New York. Giants offense in year. One is really impressive. But as you just noted the dichotomy between his plan. Matt Breda is going to be really exciting to watch because you know, from an evaluation standpoint taking a running back in the top five is is one of the more. I think hotly contested questions. Some that believe that's absolutely worth it. Some that believe it's not worth it at all, regardless of talent seeing those to sort of, you know, in the same game and being able to evaluate, you know, obviously, not against one another. They're not meeting each other in the hole, the see who's tougher Oklahoma driller or anything like that. But. To see them play. And to note, you know, undrafted verse top three overall pick the gonna be exciting to see. All right. So let's get to the predictions. What do you think's going to happen? I'm trying to find the line here. I think the line is favored by three by three at home, which makes makes sense neutral site is essentially a pick em game. I think the forty Niners could could see continued success. I will say in terms of cautionary tale. Nick Mullins is fun is Thursday night. Was I do still have concerns? I am still curious to see what the forty Niners can get out of him a second week and with extended film on tape for defensive coordinator to look at the giants as we mentioned have some really explosive playmakers at some critical positions on offense. I think it comes down to who makes more mistakes at the quarterback position. Obviously ally. Manning has the sort of the veteran nod, but is not playing particularly well hasn't in a couple of years doesn't have the armed talent that he that he used to have an if the forty Niners defense can take advantage of that. I think they're going to be in a good position a win right now. I think I'll take the forty Niners. And I think I'll take them to cover this spread. But just barely and I'm not terribly confident in that. You know, I mean at this point of the season. I think we're all confident about anything when it comes to this team. Yeah. Other than the fact that we're confident they're going to have a top five pick. I do think that this is probably going to be a close game. I do think that that three point spreads probably right about where it will land. But hey, man, I'm gonna ride Mullins mania, and I'm going to say the Niners win, and I'm going to say they wouldn't by four. So they cover even though they probably will end up winning by three and pushing. But while we're on the hormones mania thing. Just one plea to Niners fans everywhere. Number one, come up with some original nicknames. Please like this is why we went with the Mullins mania because I feel like that's kind of original it makes sense. Like, it's an illiterate in. Yeah. We love it. But everyone was out there saying like, you know, big dick like that. That's already been tried. It's already been done that was Nick foles Super Bowl chanted that in parade. Like, let's let's be original fans. Don't take the eagles nickname just because it happens to have the same. First name have a little self respect come up with your own damn nicknames. And let's be better than that. I would I would agree. And and I think, you know, from some of the stories, I was reading. The Philadelphia locker room Nick foles earned that nickname. If you understand what I'm saying. And and I'm not sure that Nick Mullins house yet. And I'm not asking for him to prove it. But I am saying that there we do have standards around here. And then matched the performance. I was not expecting you to have like deep knowledge about like, you know, other teams penis. Just man the. Are you shine? We talk about context in terms of evaluation, and you know, in terms of setting the tone for leadership. I don't know. What comes you know? I don't know comes comes with any more pressure than that. My goodness. All right. So I haven't tweeted out any of the plays that we've talked about yet because it's well, it's election night. And it's a it's a short week for us too. So I'll probably through those out either today or tomorrow, but you can catch the game clips including most of the players that we've talked about on the show on Twitter at better rivals. And then once I do then, you know, that's where you'll have to find him. If you're not on Twitter, then I'm sorry. I I don't know how to help you because I'm old, and I'm lazy. But Jared where can they find you? You can find me on Twitter at Jared. Brown underscore. That's J E R OD Brown underscore either. Re tweeting your tweets, which is typically what I do. But then go I go. Here's here's that play when he talked about. But yeah. Fi find it there in we'll highlight some of this does good stuff that we've seen. Absolutely. And then obviously have some because it's kind of a weird week, right? Because we don't play until till Monday. So there's a bit of a gap. But over the next couple of days, I'm going to probably post the bonus episode with PF George Shahuri where we talk a little bit about the kind of coaching how you measure coaching success now, and whether or not you should care whether or not or whether or not caution handed good coach, so keep your eyes peeled for some of that bonus content. But thanksgiving tuning in enjoy the one Wednesday. Hopefully, y'all have voted and as always go Niners. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from SP nation. And I want to tell you about my new show. It seemed smart it seems smart as a show about people doing things that for some reason or another same smart at the time. Those things might include doing a little cocaine and driving a bike up a mountain or I don't know maybe racing one hundred miles per hour across the country in the middle of the night with no one's permission or even stealing a bat from an empire is room in a major league baseball park, check it out. 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Niner Faithful Radio Niners redskins review

Niner Faithful Radio

06:12 min | 5 months ago

Niner Faithful Radio Niners redskins review

"What's up what's up. Y'all h boy nine or faithful. How's everyone doing would hope everyone is having a legendary week. His niners cry girls week. That's why i'm excited of that loss has me not excited but Before we get started today we like to announce we have officially launched our te'o standing on the star t shirts. Even though it doesn't show the star is why fucked cry girls and so that shit on my t shirt but oh yeah by the way warning. This show probably gonna have a lot of cussing so if cussing offends you. This might not be the episode for you before we get started today. I'd like to address my controversial tweets. That apparently we seen according to twitter or oppressions which i believe means You know the people twitter showed it to was fifty thousand and twenty six people fifty four retweets eighteen something like eighteen something like that so okay the tweet for those who don't know band you know are following radio on twitter or facebook First of all you you should. If you want to really ozzy. I don't care anymore but i'm sorry i'm dial on the hill and understand that. Sometimes i say things blunt and they come off heartless or inconsiderate. And i apologize for that or wild polge is. Oh yeah okay. I apologize for that. I mostly. I'm apologizing because i disappointed Some of my fa- fam Especially my empire momma. And and i don't want to disappoint them but You know some things need to be said. And i felt that need to be said It's sorry you know I understand it was the birth of his child. That's awesome having seen the birth of my daughter. Not my son's though but Seeing the birth of my daughter honestly The process you know of of the birth was was nasty but You know it's a beautiful thing that you know. Hold your daughter and everything like that. But also guess what i wasn't making of thousands of dollars so you know if i was making hundreds of thousand dollars at my job and maybe they would have a little bit more of a right to be like you know what breath season on the line or you know just deadline that the you know gives us a chance to get this big contract or whatever you know Yeah maybe i'm just raised different. You know i was raised in a military family. So you know. I know a lot about sacrifices that people make and you know my step dad Mr birth of his only child dead actually ended up dying a few hours later while he was overseas so Yeah just a little bit of perspective for that Also the deebo part. Look i love deebo. And i must say that. I don't think people should be on the team. But you know when you're tweeting about how you know pretty much you listen your families and everything like that like brag a little bit of perspective. You know those people who are literally lost family members you know and y'all are staying in a four star hotel so you know i understand. It sucks not going your hotel room but try being locked up but So try being boot camp Not that i was. But i've talked to people who were in it so that that's enough of that now as far as my thoughts on the game. That's just episodes. Not gonna be that long because you know pretty hungry so Thoughts on the game. Defense balled out defenses amazing and obviously. I believe we could win a championship with that caliber of defense that we have right now. I honestly believe it's obviously not the caliber of last year's defense. But i mean literally. I don't think i've ever known niner game. Where the defense did not give up a touchdown and at the same time. The offense got outscored by the opposing defense. I literally don't think that has ever happened. I couldn't find one. And i don't think that's ever happened in the seventy four year. History of the niners. So yeah. that's crazy nick. Mullins i mean everybody says cj beathard and i agree you know to the extent like how much worse could it get but you know. Let's put it this way nick. Molins isn't the answer either now. I'm not saying that we can't win against the cry girls. I expect to win but you know and we might very well win because of cj. beth. I mean let's forget that You know game. He had in green bay. Were basically we almost be eras and green bay in two thousand eighteen. And if it wasn't for aaron rodgers Doing aaron rodgers things which he was unable was unable to do what we actually had a pass rush but you know We would win that game in twenty eighty. I actually honestly thought we were going to win that game. And so you know i. It's not as cry grows week honestly nine drop balls. I mean the whole offense was flat. And i'm not going to say it's starting to be a concern because you know i remember. Eric davis had said that jason garrett was one of those coaches that needed his dudes to win. And i'm starting to wonder the same thing about kyle shanahan. Does he need his dudes to win. Now i do believe like of course. We need a competent quarterback you know under senate win pretty much. Every coach need that. But you know. I mean kenny. Win without kittle. Can you win without. I mean obviously you can win game but we're talking about winning championships. Winning you know enough games to make the playoffs. I think that that that's a question that needs to be answered. Hopefully we don't find out because hopefully we're not without a starting quarterback again. You know next season but just of the keep in your mind. You know move.

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Babes On Broad #40: Keys, Questions & Around Philly

Bleeding Green Nation

29:01 min | 7 months ago

Babes On Broad #40: Keys, Questions & Around Philly

"Hey there, podcast pals I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball season is one hundred and sixty two games long, and there's no way you can watch all those games. So make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze rozier sprout apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP. Welcome failing. To your favorite sports. Postive. Jesse. Town. and. Sam. Well. They're smart. Sexy and their. Thanks for tuning in. And we hope. Hello and welcome into episode number forty one of Babes on broad I'm Sam Wilson with my co host Jesse town where the Babes on Broadway brought to you by SD nation and bleeding relation. Make sure you follow us on all of our social media's at Babes on broad on facebook twitter instagram, and then you can find me axiom wills eighteen on twitter and instagram. You can find my co host Jesse at run this town with an e thirteen on twitter and then add Jessica underscore town with me on instagram. Before we even move onto this dumpster fire of Sunday night football make sure to go check out our our. On Broad Youtube Channel. That's Regan Find All our past pre game live shows. We're not doing one this week because of the late start time the Sunday night football start time, and then also we want to give it a break because it is very hard. I'd about right now exactly it's hard to talk positive I. don't even think anybody wants affiliate centered show right now. So we're just given a week off were cleansing the Palette before we come back. Then, we'll see where we go from their. Bids. But yet they face the equally as beat up son I was GONNA say Sunday night football's. Francisco forty. Niners on Sunday. Night football in San. Francisco. So they are travelling to the west coast, which is never a fun thing for a football team to do but the I don't WanNa. Say This is good news. These are two equally as battered. Football, teams, the injury teams are pretty much unreal the only two I think definite That we've got so far are Jimmy. GAROPPOLO's knocking to play Nick Mullins as the starter this week and George Kindle has been practicing so far. It looks like he is going to play other than that D Ford has not practiced this week he most not practices week and Jordan. Reed is not practice this week I'm not sure about four, but I but I think most in Jordan. Reader probably know goes but there, injury list is pretty much as long as the eagles injury list, which is just so sad to look at. Yeah and that's the thing too is like you're looking at the injury list and it also doesn't even factor in for the niners there I are, which would be like Nick Bowes like there are a lot of factors on their IRA that also. Recently out due to two weeks ago when everybody went down in that game. So it's even it does I. Mean turbos injuries are it does help us out a struggling eagles team even though we have all these injuries on I, think that's what really us our only fighting chance in this game at this point. But. I mean. So. As we're recording this Friday at twelve fourteen. So there is no report for Friday's practices yet. We don't know who who's practicing, who's not practicing, what have you so as of Thursday. The did not practice list was jj go whiteside with a calf injury to Sean with his hamstring alshon with his foot. However, Sean was limited on Wednesday. So I don't know if they're just trying to get him ready for Sundays to see if he can play. Wasn't his original lake when he was on Dr to start the season wasn't he originally extracted comeback in? October. 'cause it's now October second currently. So it shouldn't be that long from now that we see him no and he started practicing a couple of weeks ago. So He He seemed to look good so far. So maybe that's just kind of precautionary thing be because they have literally no receivers right now they want to make sure that he's good to go. Off that how is one good move? This season that ends up working out is not trading alshon because he wasn't able to I. Don't see that as as I can't believe that are saving grace right now is hoping out Sean Jeffrey Great Avantis Maddix. Did Not, Brag with an ankle injury Jason Peters is sick Jamaa Brown is sick John Hightower is sick and Trevor Williams was out with a rib injury. I don't know illness is going through the locker room, but at and then Rudy Ford Lane Johnson a Mile Sanders were all limited in practice Good news is Fletcher Cox. was full was a Fogo. So that kind of oblique abdomen injury that he's been battling seems to be at least a little bit better and and he should be fine. Yes the eagles are riddled with injuries, but show are the forty niners. So injuries not excuse this week this week I mean you at the end of the day we still have our starting quarterback stopping you their lease. Go you see how they were doing the matchups for the SEC this week on one of the shows on. ESPN and they did eagles at forty niners and they had freaking Nick mullins picture as the icon instead of Carson. Do see that I didn't see it but I'm at this point. They had nick molins over Carson. I just WanNa die alone. Yeah. They had acted everybody else all the other matchups prime quarterback and then narrow one over Carson Wentz Jeez. I mean. So so nick has not played poorly he's played fine. They have played the jets, the giants so I mean what is that really to hang your? Yeah, exactly. I. Guess. You can put the eagles in the jets giants, bengals category of the year. But I I mean so thirty three for forty, seven, fourteen yards a touchdown and an interception in one and a half game. So not too bad obviously there too leading rushers. In rookie most Kevin, Coleman bows a little banged up. So Jerick McKinnon is your is your leading back there and obviously first round pick brandon I is a is a exciting guy to watch. These guy who I would have been happy having on the Eagles as well. So let's kind of tile this into right go into keys to the game. So what what are you kind of seeing? What are you thinking that their keys to the game needs to be on offense and defense to try to squeak out there I went first and foremost dug in. Carson need to change their stuff around. Me My big thing last week was Carson needs come out I've kind of non given up on it but are back on it a little bit and I'm just saying Carson needs to get something together get a little rally see moving outside like he did last week and getting back to what he really does and with that being said I think a lot of pressure is on Doug. This week with his play calling he needs to utilize the injuries on the other side of the ball and then that goes for the defense as well as utilize injuries all around for this team in he also needs to show that he's aggressive early and just keep pushing that item after. Last week settling tie. So I think that's going to be a huge piece is dog. This week ended for defense like I said, just coming out being aggressive at what they can with the injuries I. Hope we win I mean art should I do my prediction or let you go Okay so due to that. I'm still gonNA say the Eagles went because they need to win I can't say that they're gonNA lose when they need to win, which is not stat were already in a need to win situation situation. But. Yes. So I think that they're going to have a high score this week. Of the season with a score of twenty, and then I think we're gonNA. Need Sanford. San Seventeen. Twenty to seventeen eagles I totally agree with you and I think one of the biggest. I think this is one of those games that I see it. kind of IT'S GONNA come down to. It's GonNa come down to coaching, and it's going to come down which coach can utilize the roster that they have given all the injuries, the best, and you should be able to the eagles should be able to come out on top of that because at the end of the day, the eagles have their franchise quarterback, healthy and ready to go. So I think roofs as much as they need to kind of exploit the injuries on the opposite side. You Know Doug needs to be get creative with all the injuries. It's it's going to be on getting his stuff together and then carson executing like a the the injuries. Aren't an excuse this week. So the last couple of weeks. we don't have any receivers. WHOA. Whatever I mean not that it's an excuse but it's something that. was looked at obviously, but the forty niners are missing. I mean they're they're equally as decimated as we are. So yeah, Eagles I mean, it's going to come down to which coach can utilize the roster that they have better and more effectively, and which team connects team is more prepared to play on Sunday. That's what it's going to come down to and I think given that that's also going to show me a lot about where Doug is and what we need going forward. Because at the end of the day Doug won the Super Bowl I do not think he should be fired I do not even think I think he should be embarrassed by what he shown so far. But I don't think his job should be in jeopardy even remotely. I agree I now is this next season and its two consecutive seasons then especially difference with. And three start not yet. But to me this is. I I mean I think he needs an offensive coordinator. I. About, this on on earlier this week I mean at the end of the day, the chiefs have Andy, Reid and Eric B enemy but Eric Bana me calls all the plays. down. Again do. This can't do an offensive coordinator by committee. This cannot do that rap, the Committee AC absolute crap and might grow was a little. Yes. Man for Doug Peterson, he was also useless. I think they need an actual talented offensive coordinator. Who can can just just? So you have another voice in the room. So you have some dialogue to be able to get an IB I would even be fine if one of these guys that are part of this committee was the actual offensive coordinator. So they could have a good dialogue to be able to create some better place. So I ultimately think on the offensive side of the ball for the eagles. This is going to show me a lot about what drugs made of and what the rest of the offensive staff is not made of and what the roster. On the defensive side, I swear to God if I see any stick. To jump off my balcony, they need to get some pressure on Nick mullins. There's no excuse not to obviously you know the the forty niners offensive line is is really good. But look at what you've got on your defensive line get some pressure out there and oh my God. Do something with George Kettle that's not nate Gary following him in coverage. Please that's a fabulous. I just I'm it's here's the. Gary Fault like the execution. Sure. But he has not a number one linebacker like he say on this, we've been saying this since he got toasted Enga- one like you can only blame how further. So you cannot blame named Gary for because he's doing the best. He can. He just put in a position. He shouldn't be in he's not go. He's just not good enough like now at it that's okay. A lot better than a lot of people out there. But Hey, you are not the person that should be number one now. So with that again, I'm with you there still going to go with the Eagles winning I have not lost all hope yet I will never pick against the Philadelphia. Eagles. I've got the birds winning twenty, seven, twenty four and just quieting everyone down for a little bit of time after a national. TV, win I like it. I. Just don't see him score that much anything. It says I think it says something the fact that. We are in week four and I can't confidently say they're going to beat this other injured team I'm not confident I'm just you know going on I'm like you say twenty, two seventeen and if they do win that's I see. Yes on. It's not the best case scenario right now but I'm gonna sit on the couch I'm going to scream at my tv and we will you gotta be invested Yeah Oh of course, it's going gonNA. You know I don't know if I can. You know not let my mood for a second week in a row who? We'll see but we're gonNA take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to talk about what's going on around Philly because there's actually some positive stuff going on around. and. We're going to answer a few more listener questions this week you're listening to the Babes on broad on BGN radio. Baseball truly, it is awful. I'm phillies writer Justin Clue. Join me every week along with John, Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discuss all the ways, the phillies hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical anecdotes and rar emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty innings subscribe to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together, we'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us. SP Nation presents the SP nation NFL show five weekday episodes to get you through the grind of the NFL season. With your favorite espy nation community leaders you'll get reactions to what happened on Sunday film breakdown fearless takes local expert analysis, fantasy, football advice, and so much more. There's a little something for everyone on the SP nation NFL show. Be Sure to subscribe on Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast. APP to be sure you don't miss a single episode. So we want to bring in some positivity now and I'm just GONNA say welcome to Philadelphia Doc. Rivers finally so good news. I'm so happy I'm seeing. Like I'm doing like hands. He had see her excited hands pushing. Down, you know I just like he was in a perfect world if I could just pick anybody to be the head coach of the Sixers, he is who I would affect angry and he became available and I was like if if he's out there and we end up with Mike Dan, Tony I'm going to I was GonNa riot I was going to be so pissed I just think from a culture standpoint he's the guy that they needed and he's definitely a guy who can light a fire on. Yeah. And Nine to Vegas things about him is one he may to by it's great when he was with the clippers. So I think that is the perfect moved just bring Tobias into his role that we are expecting him in here and then to the biggest thing about Brett Brown was the fact that he was too friendly and the cook like everybody will lease. Everybody said that the team just valued in wars like a friend actually like did see him in that leader role I, think doc rivers with his. Repertoire and his name and everything. He's GonNa come in right here at he demands that respect right away because of everything he's done in proven that he can do and I think these guys are GonNa respect him I think you're going to do everything that he says I think it's just going to be perfect. I agree and. Coming back to the Eastern conference I just think he I mean. I think he can handle this roster and I think he is the perfect guy to do it. I mean. He won an NBA championship with Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and regime Rondo like those are some those personalities right there. Trio is some personalities and you can win an NBA championship with that like its own people WanNa talk about like what he done in. L.. A. And I'm like manage every superstar that's come through there. Yet screwed over by Chris Paul's injuries and poor teammate ship like. I just went to say ray and literally, and I said, righty. So. Just, wanted. With what you said about Tobias Ours I. think that's the most underrated part about this move and I think it's something. Talking about enough because everyone wants to talk about Bannon Joel which absolutely true he's had been highest praise for Bannon. Joel and I think he would be a great guy to bring in here. Yes I. Think he's perfect for them but then you add in the Tobias Harris thing obviously, they've invested so much money into bias. But also I think that from a team standpoint like he has really developed into their leader like on and off the floor he's that. Your we'll talk about health Joel embiid like he's just goofy personality like he's not necessarily neater and Ben's just more quiet. But obviously they're super talented to bias has taken it upon himself to keep the team together and has been the face of them advocating for social justice change and things like that. So I think that obviously to biases should stay here I don't want to buy to be traded and I think obviously, I liked to bias doc rivers is the guy that made him all star favorite a couple years ago obviously in the Western Conference for the garden and we're just so many couldn't have all of them in there but. Tobias as best year why we traded it for him was that. So I I'm I'm so excited about this move and I I absolutely cannot wait to see what happens and I also can't wait to see if he has full power over the roster construction as well like I. Now I'm excited definitely gonNA mean setting off season I have one question now. For. You kind of bring a negative aspect on. More bed. So Jimmy Butler I saw a tweet. He said something about sixers end. It was that Ben Simmons didn't have the mindset that him Joel Hat it was more lackadaisical. He said. So what do you think about that? Does that concern you that he thinks that ben kind of doesn't have that winning. Said because I don't I haven't seen that if that makes sense like, yeah I, it's concerning that he thought. So also not everyone is going to be up dribbling a basketball at three am but I think a lot. I think a big part of why he said it was because when he was with the team, that's when Ben was doing his whole being with Kendall, Jenner and being super you know what I mean he was more in the tabloids was on the court in the shirt and I just think like I haven't. I haven't seen that you don't like until I. See it on the floor when I'm just like, Oh ben's out there being. I don't see that and I understand how there were times especially in the Toronto series where Ben, look disengaged because he didn't have the ball in his hands and he couldn't really do much else from an offensive standpoint and he still needs to grow that part of his game obviously but again, I think with some better shooters around them there's. Different kind of situation there, and I think that's something that dot can work with effectively also could be the Brett Brown thing needing a new voice in the room. There are a lot of things that could go into it and I want it to sound like I'm making excuses but on the floor I have not necessarily seen that yet like I don't think he has that like. Killer instinct that yeah, Jimmy Butler does but I don't think I don't see him on the floor like like I don't see him taking plays off you. Know I like that you just said killer instinct because I think because it did bring a little bit concerned into me like maybe I can see that but the fact is that killer instinct is exactly the word I was lacking because that's kind of what I don't see from him. I don't necessarily think he's being like lackadaisical in doesn't care I just think he doesn't. Have the instinct that Jimmy Butler dose Rhino and I just killer instinct right and I I think it's interesting that he said the saints Joel did because I don't really have I haven't seen that from Joel either. Yeah. So I think that's why I don't really have a concern because it seems of more like a personal issue with Ben Simmons. Relationship with Joel than anything else because I don't I don't see anything from Joel that I don't see from Ben and I don't see anything from Ben that I don't see I don't think abandoned. Do See from Joel, if that makes sense like the the these is the channel it's yeah. The mentality or killer or whatever you WANNA call it like. I don't see much difference in what they do and do not have I agree with that. So that's kind of why why I'm Kinda like like that seems like, Jimmy, just like having an issue. Yeah. And then on. To keep going down. Going Downhill Sixto. Sanchez, starting in a playoff game before Aaron. Nola bats disgusting. Season but the fact that everything happened that needed to happen for them to get into the playoffs aside from them winning their own game, it dude a needed to go within the last game they needed to go to and six, and they want one and seven what it's disgusting brace like and then you're gonNa tell me you're gonNa tell me after six. Oh, Sanchez is starting in a playoff game before Aaron Nola that you got what you wanted out of. Jag. New. Joe. So that's GONNA lead us into our first listener question at Ari blue, PX p asked us why were at McClintock Addie mcphail fired after the final out and honestly I think it's because exactly what you just said the organization does not value winning. All they want to do is sign players to attract fans to come to the park buy tickets by merge and they don't actually have any desire to build a winning. Team they told you buy they told you that exactly what that reaction to J. T. Romeo? Oh well, we signed up for two years of J. T. and we knew that was pretty much it. Well, you did nothing else to supplement. If that was your tally, you should have been a win now program you daily the supplement that, and instead you're like love we make the playoffs we do. We don't we don't. They don't value winning. They don't care about winning. Go about making money. And that's absolutely infuriating and if that's the case I want nothing to do with this team. Philly we mean winning we can't stand this constant losing like I don't care if we have the best roster and the biggest names if they can't play I, don't care like that is absolutely idiotic. If that was the thought process was just to get giveaway your best pitching prospect who's already making a big impact down there it with the marlins and then. Just, freaking jt for two years and Yup. That's good enough for us. So we don't need them even now and it's an. Bureau about it as well is the fact that like Jane T was one of your most if not de most consistent player, you had all season on all sides of the ball. Yes. They not only is he a great catcher he's the best in League catcher which makes him the agree leader, and then he also is a great hitter like it just. Doesn't make any sense to me besides being sheep in carrying. Yeah. I mean I don't concerned about it. You if he wants to be here anymore because I sent you at his wife now his wife put on their story something like thanks Philly like we enjoyed everything that you like all the love you gave us like thanking the fans and as soon as I saw I was like, I? Don't even care about being here anymore and I do not blame but. Keys man, it is stats GonNa be the stupidest move in Eagles history. Any Eagles in phillies history I think if they let him go I really just think that stupidest move. I mean. So like we talk about like Zach Ertz thing right and it's like Zachary is one of the top tight ends in football but I can see up obviously I want them to resign Zacher and given the extension. But I I can understand the the opposite argument right yeah jt room. Utah is quite literally the best catcher in baseball by far by far in every aspect of the game and you are literally going. To just crapped out away agnes that comparison just so okay like I want here I think he should be her but if you get rid of him, it's for the argument that you still have Dallas Qatar who can replace him unfit in pretty close you know what I mean like he's still agree he's going to be great tight end in the weight but if you if you get rid of on Jt Romeo You don't have that in catching. What are you saying that NAP is as good as JT real new no. It's left. Yes. Like you. Gosh now doing frustrated hands like it's just so frustrating. Okay. They need to go on. At Jeffrey underscore bar asked us who is in the worship over the next few years, Eagles, sixers, or Phillies sixers no longer in the worship. Now they're now conversation now angry what on Eagles? I think how he's on the hot seat. I hope it's not the same case. So I think that Eagles. It's GonNa take a little bit until they rebuild. But right now if the if the phillies. Getting rid of JT Rotel I think that the phillies would be in the worst case scenario, which is so terrible to say after they gave all that money to Bryce Harper for thirteen years. To just like, oh my gosh and even now give me Josh. Tell you even just said like brought up. JT weibring in for two years if you weren't in win now known. Why do that yet? You literally could sell tickets. It's nuts to me I think that I don't know if I can answer that question until after the US play on Sunday I agree that and the fact that we need to see where the eagles could be it could be another the same situation like I mean obviously both GM's or really should not belong right now and I don't know where the Eagles stand on how I don't know if they're going to hold onto them leg it seems like the was going to with cleantech so. We'll see and I think that's what it's GonNa come down to WHO's willing to just cut ties with the poor GM's that sock in ruining everything but. On frustrating hasn't so worked operating. All right. Let them decompress Thank you for listening to episode forty. One of Bath's on broad as always. Thank you. espy nation and bleeding cremation. Make sure to subscribe to bleeding great nation wherever you get your podcast leave a five star review, leave a written review and don't forget. 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Who You Got - Mahomes or Lamar?

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Who You Got - Mahomes or Lamar?

"Dead More time to listen to yours, truly by going to shell and getting things done at once I fill up with Shell v power plus then save up with the fuel rewards program finally, snack up to save even more at the pump make the most of the stuff you need to make with Shell. Welcome to NFL live. We are so glad that you were here with us today we're officially into week three a big battle in the state of Florida's tonight Dan Orlovsky is there we got keyshawn Johnson there Marcus Spears and Adam schefter with us off the top, and there's so much to get to be we begin with news out of the game tonight Dj Shark what's his status? They've already ruled them out of tonight's Game Laura. That means the Jaguars will be without your top wideout. Don't rely on other players like a viscous Chenault Chris on and other players like that. But no no. Dj Short tonight against the Miami Dolphins as for the forty niners Jimmy Garoppolo didn't practice today looks like Nick Molins is on track historic Sunday at the giants in a stadium that the forty niners will return to know practice for ten Coleman most or deport George Co Ltd.. Injuries mounting up, and of course, we have Sammy Watkins being in concussion protocol for the Kansas City, chiefs didn't practice today real question about whether he'll be available for Monday, night's big game against the Baltimore Ravens a lot of weapons on Kansas City's offense what they'd like to have Watkins if you were. ELTI. Xanthi with us all show in week three is upon us it doesn't get better than Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson on. Monday night football too have been nothing short of amazing since entering the league last season Mahomes led Kansas City to their first super bowl title since nineteen sixty nine becoming the first quarterback to win a league MVP and Super Bowl Mvp before turning twenty five Jackson on the other hand set his own nfl record while winning MVP. Last season becoming the first player in NFL history to throw thirty touchdowns and rushed for one thousand. He's a great player I mean he can. He can make all the throws he can run with the ball. He can really do it all, and so it's always fun to watch guys like that that that work hard put in the work and able go out there and have success on the field this coup. Agreed. Like him. Ball anywhere. He wants on the field on meet things happen. Each and every game on various I'd he's just ton of put on a show primetime game all these new quarterbacks that are in this league, I mean these young kids man I, mean. I've great. Is that for the National Football, League show are two of the best here. You have an opportunity to watch him compete against each other good friends on top of that. It's really fun to watch them grow go back to last year and you think about a twenty nineteen did similar things that you just talked about thirty eight point was hung. Walter. Moore's defense. They've got to be a little more aggressive hilarious Campbell has to get them to Sean Elliott. A young kid has been there promising for them replaces at the safety position now comes in and Earl Thomas is going. He's been playing a lot better in terms of getting those blitzes down like you're talking about but then when you look at it He threw for three touchdowns on last year and three, hundred, seventy your I mean he kinda torched them. So when you talk about Marlin Humphries, Marcus Peters. Jamming, those receivers disrupting the time that's how you get it passing games and quarterbacks. Marcus. You always tell us that the way to get to. Patrick Mahomes is to bring four make him as uncomfortable as possible. How did the Ravens off-season maybe set us up for seeing that? Key mentioned them Callejas Campbell he was brought in to do that. I think is seven feet. I. Know People say he's like six, seven, six, eight he's seven feet tall but his ability to push the pocket in the middle. Listen you. Would they understand what key saying saying? No one is wrong. In this instance, you have to figure out ways to try to confuse Patrick Mahomes but also give him some exotic looks but this is still football fellows. This is still as simplistic as again when you can rush with four and get. Pressure on the quarterback, you have a better chance of playing really good defense that's not saying you're majoring in that every single time they dropped back to pass but that's why these guys paid like they're paid. You talk about Interior rushers defensive. So Judah Kelly. Campbell all these guys, Pernille mcphee all of these guys are going to have to really put their best foot forward and then two it's like basketball you have to be on the same page if I'm ago. You make sure you stay low in your rush to not give a window for him the duck underneath and get outside Patrick Mahomes at showing, he can use his legs to create plays as well. So you have to be conscious, but the teams that we've seen them give the most problems. Is. The La chargers last week and the San Francisco. Forty. Niners in the super. Bowl. And they did most of that would afford man rush. I mean, that's a good point. The only the only concern I get off of that is do you want to change your identity to do that? Right like Baltimore with week Mark Martindale has always been. We're GONNA come after you and there's also one of the few defenses the NFL that go we got a guy that we could put on Sammy. Watkins. We got a guy that we can put on Tara Hill now. Might be the guy that they put on Travis Kelsey. That might be the safety that hammered Chuck Arkalyk. We feel really good about putting him on Travis Kelsey. So Marcus is right. If if you feel comfortable going after them and getting Ford, you can keep Patrick in the pocket I can't even contain myself talking about. So excited for Monday's game but like if you could keep them in the pocket, that's the best way to do it. But Baltimore's got to be comfortable kind of breaking away from their identity to do that there was no tyreek hill game last year. Remember that right? Shoulder it's a little bit different form now. Yeah. That's a really good point. Dan Can't contain himself. He's actually. Ending up whenever he's been off, Camera Gardner ventured not lacking in any type of confidence. Adam Schefter, what are the coaches saying about him? Speak to people around the League about Garnham into the one thing they say is that he's very confident in fact, one evaluator this week said to me that Gardner. Menchu thinks he's really good Gordon and Menchu thinks he's really good and I said in response that he is very good and the value of the right but he thinks he's really good and I think that has elevated elevate his level of performance and he's played like a very good quarterback. Don't me wrong. But again, he carries himself with a swagger and a Moxie that has helped him and that team where they. Believe they can win anytime. Yeah. We got a lot of people on this show I, think they're really good too. So we can relate to that. All Right Gardner, you continues to try and prove some doubters wrong through two games. This season he ranks in the top ten touchdown passes completion percentage and passer rating. In fact, only Russell Wilson is thrown more touchdown passes than men shoe this season, the shoe mustache on full display tonight is the Jaguars looking to improve to two and one on the year. So Dan, when you watchmen to play, you think he's really good to you see. Flashes of a former great quarterback who is it reminds me a Tony Romo just first of all the way he gets the ball of his hands like really smart pre-snap Tony was notorious for that like seeing the coverage pre snap right go bog allowed. This is perfect representation that fallout quickly perfect ball placement to wit and ball out quickly perfect replacement a little bit touched on a third the sideline just these natural throwers placing the ball exactly where they need to be, and then just the ability to create that this magic where they run around and it Kinda make magic out of. Some stuff that was Tony Romo was notorious for as well, and so I promise you Tony Romo before he became the starting quarterback of the Dallas cowboys story was great to Gartner Minhsiu every time he steps on the field reminds me of Tony Romo and he's going to give the Jaguars. A chance to win every single week. Here's a guy certainly complain this lead there's no question about it when it got him out of Washington State, they made that decision that he was gonNA originally backup Nick foles but then guess what Nick Foles is no longer he's in Chicago because they said. We got one in every now and then. They find one in the national football league that people don't ever think about they think, oh well, he'll be a pedestrian quarterback for the rest of his career. This guy eventually will be a star at some point I believe. Love. The comparison Tony Romo deal because with look we saw it in practice we understood that he had that type of talent, but you always wait and you hold your. Word until you see him, do it in the game, and then once he does it Wale bill sales the next week or something like don't eat the cheese meaning don't don't don't grant him the greatest thing ever after one good game. But Gordon now has and I gotTa admit. He's been sneaky Baldwin to me like you. You just look on Sunday when we watch it all of these other superstore quarterbacks in games and it's like going to miss you got. Jacksonville. And the game against you a going to miss you. Miss. You threw another touchdown Horta receivers for Jacksonville didn't get rid of all of the talent. How are they even playing like this and then you start crossing the is like Yo this this quarterback might be responsible for Jacksonville not tanking for treble basically. So look I have a lot of respect for these type of guys man because I saw one the seeing to be one of the great ones. And I think they have something in Jacksonville to keys point I love going. Door Yeah. You mentioned tanking Minzhu has been on the record even this year saying, yeah we don't know anything about tanking because we're trying to keep our jobs here, and if he asked me, you always eat the cheese marcus but I'm talking about myself there. Let's switch to the other team in this match up tonight and that would be the Miami Dolphins and they're in a situation shefty were winter. We're GONNA see to a tongue of I, lo a lot of people wondering that what what do you know about the time line for two? Will it seems like the more the losses pile up and the more the interceptions from Ryan Fitzpatrick pile up the more there will be calls for a ton of low, but there's no obvious or real pressing need right now to go to him the dolphins don't feel any sense of urgency especially with their offensive line they're not in any rush to do that at this point in time, and so it's one of these things where I think we'll hear more and more conversation about it especially after Ryan. Fitzpatrick. Loses some games, throw some picks but right now they want to stick with Fitzpatrick Marcus what do you think Winston to start playing the Dolphins y'All know me he should have been played it from the beginning of it. Look it was smart to. Ryan. Fitzpatrick again. But I don't think you wait long for to be honest you get him some reps even if it's not starting him for four games, he needs to saw a seeing some of this action. He's deemed healthy. Put Him in there. See if he can make some plays and then determine how you want to move forward with it. Absolutely you're absolutely. Right Marcus. I would say about the fifth game of the year they're supposed to play. They're going to play the San Francisco. Forty niners in San Francisco's banged up. So they won't be in my opinion that good putting me. So you can get those rep see what he is. You don't wait to the end of the year for three or four games, and then you look up when you shaking your head that like what are you know about y'all so wrong I can we get the kid a year removed from injury? Can we let him get a year removed from injury? I think it has been a year November November will be a year from the injury second of October. Tober we're getting close not even your injury second of all. They got the worst defensive line in football they start to rookies at tackle. You Guys WanNa put out there when this team's not going to the playoffs, they're not a division champion and we're just. Out to get them ready. To get in don't you? Think the more that the time lapse is the long layoff is doesn't that affect to to? Get Him actually need those. I do not want to subject him to the worst offensive line football in two rookie tackles. That is if I'm the quarterback coach I'm laying on the table saying there's no shot letting you just don't WanNa play. It has aren't fire this. Play. Listen listen. Let's put. Let's put him in a Rose Garden and let's put pillows around him. Let's crown with everything. That's protective. What doing like they did the kid on the little giants and wrapping Saran wrap and bubble wrap the man is healthy. He's said he's healthy. They have said he's healthy. Man. You waiting. Him? The. Key is the doctors have said he's healthy. Okay. All Eyes on Kentucky and Briana Taylor's case yesterday a grand jury in Louisville did not move forward with charges against any officers for their role in Briana Taylor's death, and if players took to social media following the Briana Taylor grand jury decision Seahawks Safety Jamal Adams wrote, Black Queens matter and Washington first round pick chase young wrote no justice. No peace. Here's more from players around the League reacting today. It's really disappointing because justice be served for her death man Taylor and this this movement in general This black lives matter understanding the neglected not only black people by the people in general and the. Injustices. In police brutality and. Racism. Then everything that nature it's bigger than just sports or politics or the. Value Treat people we got other things in the road just isn't that don't really need just people want to push that issue a lot more than. Off Black lives matter and tend to be in one of. Is Crazy, like we we never get justice for serious things on our side of the part you know. We're in America were should be free speech on the land of the free where our. Is being that. First met people sometimes it's just getting tougher. It's disheartening is is all of those things when you just want justice and it doesn't seem like that's going to happen. There was a lot of hope that they were going to do the right thing. At the end of the day given how everything's happened historically, you can't say that. To surprise unfortunate you know feel. Obviously a lot of anger but but you know we have to try to figure out different ways to to get we want. We can't put it in anybody else's hands to make the right decision because historically shown, they will not do that. It was my sister, my mom and my dad or five kids one day any my kids be frank. I'll be pissed off on very pissed off in. This should be handled in in taking care of in a timely fashion not what is For somebody else. As. You hear the reactions from NFL stars around the League Marcus for you this is about actionable items moving forward. Can you explain that? No doubt I mean look this is the process. I'm exhausted. I can talk to you all right now not gonNA talk to America about my. What I felt, but but the reality is this was the expectation that I had for as long as I can remember about the results will will come out about Brianna Taylor. Look man you got to vote period you gotTa vote for your local you got to vote for state you got to vote for federal you have to get be a part of this process before it's time to go to the polls this is a call to people for right like the bottom line is this You'RE ASKING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY WITH Done wrong to someone. It doesn't matter if it's a police officer, it doesn't matter if there's somebody else there should be no delineation between something being done wrong to somebody in the person that committed act being held accountable that simple. But it goes beyond that for me we march we protested now mind you this has been going on for a long time in this country laws being changed voting understanding who you're voting for and what their values are. It's time to dive deeper. You know how everybody get together own a fantasy draft night and everybody get together when it's football time and we go in depth to all the. Players we love it. We supported we cheer I need everybody to have that same energy when it's time to vote for people and putting people in positions that are going to do the right things that are going to be held, accountable and going to hold people accountable for doing their jobs period. That's all I got to say about it because anything further, it turns into anger and it turns into something that I don't WanNa get into because I've been through these ebbs and flows with all of this stuff that we've been talking about the a part of the process learning it is very frustrating. There's no question about it. Every day you feel like you've got this large building on your shoulders and you keep holding out Oh, something has going to change. But like they said, what did you expect even though it was just felt like, okay, this could be different it could be. But at the same time, we never arrived to that point. So it's not a surprise at all. It's just not a surprise not one bit. But what I would say though is much like Marcus it it starts with voting. You gotta you gotTa understand who you putting in these offices from the local level to the federal level not only that we need people like Y'all like you Lord like you Dan your free in, be able to talk to them and tell them to get them to understand the important. I've lost a lot of friends. That that were close to me over the last four months because of. My views versus their views, and I said you know what? I can't roll with that because their mindsets are so different than what the reality of it is. I'm serious like really loss friends that I was friends with for the last fifteen or so years because they mindset some of these guys that are in these leagues that are just sitting around saying don't want to take a stand don't want to owners in these teams don't want to say anything is very difficult to sit here. Much like Marcus said they want to Cheer Song They WanNa, hug this show pictures on the Mantle Oh, he's our friend Oh. Yeah. Where to Jersey, but then at the end of the day when you take it off now what? We're wrong with their right makes no sense. Man. I just as a as a as a white guy sitting here like it's hard for me to ignore this, it's just hard for me to ignore I don't even know key that will right. But it's hard for being like keys I feel his anger in this conversation mark is my family like Marcus. Marcus I family, and it's hard for me to ignore hearing Marquez's. Just, exhaustion is frustration. and. I can't understand it but I got to be willing to allow it to affect me the same way you know like I feel like people like me who look like me gotta be willing to allow it to affect me or try to affect me the same way and I just can't ignore. Feeling your pain. I can't ignore feeling marquises just exhaustion. It's at the end of the day about human rights basic human rights here that everyone should be able to have equally, and we are thankful that we're giving this platform to share our thoughts whatever they may be about the most important things in our country. In the world we're also here to talk football. So we're GonNa make what is a tough turn and get back to that guys I. Appreciate you all for sharing what you just did. The cowboys in the seahawks are facing off this weekend. It's GonNa be a good one. They're looking the cowboys are for the second half Dak Prescott from week to in Dallas Comeback Win over the Falcons. Prescott threw for three hundred twelve yards rushed for three touchdowns. He threw another and he joined Patrick Mahomes the only other player to record three hundred plus passing yards and four touchdowns in half over the last five seasons. So key there were times over this week where. People have been saying Yeah Dak Prescott should take that game tape right to Jerry Jones put it on his desk and say pay me because of that. What do you need to see at Adak in this game? I need to see the same thing that on the second half you just ran off those statistics give me that if I can get that out of him and you're going to a tough place with Russell Wilson in that offense now firepower you do that. And you go up in Seattle and you take care of business getting bought CD. Lamb. In the market Kupuna Zeke Elliott running and Gal I have no problem jumping on the table and Figure out how to get that damn deal done at the end of the season because he's on his way somewhere is so auto cowboys, you can see he's making big strides. That was huge. You didn't see that with that Prescott in in the beginning where he was coming from behind putting it all on his shoulders as they were say, he was calm. He was who he was collective less giddy done Seattle. No problem may write your own check but wait a second. But what if you see a different version? Dak, against the Then, we got a slower Dale. We got to reevaluate the situation, the NFL man, that's the reality of law just. Slow it down like your brakes, their key marcus what do you think? This makes me sick to my stomach because Seattle is my super bowl pig. So y'all obviously know which way I'm going, but here's the bottom line I. Think. I think he makes a great point that needs to continue to play whale and give his team to win like he did in the second half of the Falcons game. But also when you look at this matchup and you think about what it can do, how can how can that second half from Dallas carry over into the Seattle game and be a part of this team is and identity wise and all myself Dan. We know when we have signature wins, we know when it changes kind of the temperature in our locker room things, we can hang our hats on. So I look very forward to Dallas playing really good even in a losing effort because I think Seattle is just built better in doing better things. They can look good and still lose this game and I'll be okay, guys don't need to check on I'll be okay as long as they look good. Marcus, we love you say we'll still check on you either way Dan they're saying the deck needs to step up who needs to step up in your mind if Dallas is going to get that win CD lamb needs to have twelve for book fifty you know at this going to be a shootout both offenses are going to score enough points. But if you look at Seattle, they've got two really good corners and Griffin and Dunbar. So I look at cd-rom just owning the Middle Field Seattle struggled to cover the. Slot receivers, they've they've given up a ton of completions down the middle of field CD LAMB has started to show himself in this offense. He needs to be the guy, it's not Gallup. He's got a place part it's not Amari. He's got a place park CD LAMB has twelve for one fifty Dallas can pull this game off. But if he has eight seventy, they won't win this football. You meet needs to be the best player on the field. Sunday it's interesting too. Because on the other side, you mentioned this being really back and forth you gotTa Train Slowdown Russell Wilson No quarterback has more touchdown passes this season than Wilson with nine five of which came under pressure. About some games that maybe aren't getting enough love and a great week free slate. Marcus, what are you looking out for? I'm looking to see if Josh Allen is going to continue to carry over what he's been doing these sorts of weeks. He's playing phenomenal Dan put him on the radar. He is firmly planted on the Dan Wagon right now, I want to see if he can carry over this a really good defense. Air Donald. J Ramsey's there and the rams offense as well as. Having to put points on the board I'm following you mark with the Atlanta Falcons that collapsed last week against the Dallas cowboys in the second half can net defense step up against Mitchell trubisky of the Chicago bears they allow him to go out there and torched them for Dan Quinn seat is going be flaming. On taking Big Ben, I wanNA see Big Ben come out of this game and just start in rhythm getting the ball out of his hands Dante. Johnston is an absolute playmaker down in the Red Zone throw that ball apply for talks on play pool. Don't worry about the check down realized a really good weapon in the Ron to be worked in midfield, and then you're young rookie wide receiver outside chase play pool continue to give them opportunities settlement early on in this football game yet, no one is ignoring this other game. Against the packers and our rob democracy key with a great headline here come for Aaron Rodgers and drew brees stay for the running backs there. Let me explain a little bit more about this matchup. It's a running back showcase featuring Aaron Jones and Alvin Kamara, the two or among the best players at their physician off hot starts. This season, they both have four scrimmage, four scrimmage touchdowns tied for the most in the league and no player has more scrimmage yards. Then Jones this season with three, hundred, twelve, I feel like not enough people are talking about Aaron Jones for sure Vicky which of these. Two star running backs, Chimera or Jones are more important. Their team's success Kamera I think when you look at drew brees, he's always had a running back for the success of that team whether it was a Deuce mcallister, Reggie Bush Ingram and now Kamera. So when you look at the other side, you look at Aaron Rodgers I'll just give you listen Eddie Lacy Ryan, grant, James starks Jamal Williams time Montgomery I mean, and he has been to steal deal with no problems whatsoever. Now, all of a sudden he has Aaron Jones, which makes him even more lethal but I think it's drew brees for sure. WHO's more important to the game it was more important to their individual team. I'd say Aaron Jones I. Think you're Joneses is firmly supplanted into the best dual threat back in football right now him or maybe McCaffrey are one to the reason why is because these versus and everything you you want to run between the tackles he can do that. He's got I quickness. That is great. Then he's got home run speed he can be physical as a runner and then the past game he's outstanding sometimes it's in the screen game sometimes the ball's out of errands and sometimes they throw them on a corner. So I look at Aaron Jones is being probably. I said this the other day he's the most underrated player in football right now appreciated football player right now Solitaire Jones he lambeau leaves with the best of two Marcus. Let's take this one step further who is the most important player on the field this week. So on either side. Breeze, listen we've watched drew brees have a very mediocre two weeks compared to what we expect from drew brees. He talked about needing to get in sync with his wide receivers. He could possibly have Michael. Thomas. Beck which would give him a huge boost but drew brees knows he's going to have to be great. Dude is he paying attention to what Iran does? Not. Hail he better be because Aaron Rodgers. Go run you out to Jim Right. Now if you own your game as quarterback drew, brees has to play better and look we all know he's a hall of fame but we know the records that he has the saints have Super Bowl expectations guess who else has super bowl expectation the Green Bay packers guess what conference they in the NFC. So go. Ahead, drew brees and get your stuff go and so you can catch self against somebody that you could possibly see down the road drew brees needs the ball. He's the most important player this game you know what's funny though markets I think everybody's looking at that game against the raiders and they're trying to figure out what drew brees. Well, no one was saying that against the Tampa Bay Bucks A. Dan If you go back and you look at that game against the raiders receivers with stopping on route said time you think. They were I don't know if you said that or not. No you're right stopping on routes. Okay. He's trying to sell raw to the sideline the tied in one hundred percent easily over one hundred and all of a sudden Emmanuel Sanders instead of showing standing up and showing chest drew throws thinks he's going he stops. So it's Kinda like you gotTa Sorta look at it from that perspective through the interception which was ill adviser but that happens but for the most part drew's plant drew to me. So. Much of it is without Michael Thomas, who is a security blanket for any quarterback? That's why that matters. That's why keys point matters because we didn't see those misses Michael Thomas Catch, radius Maisy, and we sell those misses with the receivers that are the secondary options, the third and fourth options, and those take time for the not only drew to see at the same way they do. But those guys see it. The same way as drew does well, leftovers reps in training camp, which is not a real training camp. This year from Michael Thomas was running those routes. You given those other guys, those routes, it's not the same and Michael Thomas? Breeding. Off Issue. Receive I, don't care about the issue not hey, listen even the. Thousand Years Ago Stop, I'm just wondering I'm just wondering when we started like being solved phone this show drew. Role will and we need to take care of. All because he might get hit with young tackles. -Til y'all know drew brees ain't plan to the level we used to see drew brees unislamic by. The Bay we? Did for big until. To be interesting to see what the raiders do against the Patriots of course, the raiders coming up and big time performance and Monday night football but they're going to have to take on Cam Newton who has been dominant so far for the pats one in one record. Still a lot to think about if you're Jon Gruden on the other side here, he is talking about. Cam. I haven't seen many guys walk through my doors that looked like Cam I, call him slam slam. Newton. And that was the nickname I him He is a power forward playing quarterback is over he's oversized for the position but he's gifted so much athletically it's it's incredible what he's Accomplished Min-. that. Is really impressive. Marcus I don't know if John Gruden's aware that Cam Newton has another nickname. And his Damn Newton because look here's the blow I remember. First Time, plan. against. Cam Newton the first thing we say when we saw him was down, that's quarterback at the way you playing against him and he run pass your secondary at two sixty you like damn affairs. At the you like go you go to the sideline you tell coach coats gives us something because km is Damn Newton. So it's never changing. That's the first thing. I said when I saw the news was down that's a quarterback literally if you Laura. And using them Cam Cam looks like a defensively in. That's what you saw when you see them well, every time. I say. All right. So you're not going with slam, but anyway, Gruden tried with his nickname key cam slammed whatever you wanna call him has played two games with Bill Belichick and Josh mcdaniels back in MVP form is when you when you look at Josh mcdaniels, he has a real offense coordinator for the second time in his career the first one was North Turner. Now is Josh mcdaniels an interesting thing about guys like Josh mcdaniels go and Look at things and Carolina or even college for that matter that Cam did well in insert that into the lineup for the New England patriots that is what makes a great offense and coach and a great offense coordinator. A lot of times these coaches want to fit you into their system. Right Dan opposed to what it is that player does well okay I remember going down to Tampa my first year. Let's tackle the offense coordinator he refuse. To Change, he wanted to fit me into Tennessee Titans System Daddy brought the Tampa. They just gave me sixty, five million dollars. I walked in May. Come on man you missing you missing the point. He was gone nine months later i. Came in. And made sure that they got me to football because he did the things that I did. Well, he made sure within the system he said he runs great dig Rousey runs comeback slant less insert that into our system hundred and six catches pro bowl playoff. That's all right. That's go manner shefty a little flex thereby key. Shefty bit required. I got some sixty five million dollars key way over. Oh Lord. All right. Let's Believing it there Sheffi some key raiders are banged up on the other side of this game. What's the latest on Josh Jacobs and Darren Waller? Have some injuries heading into foxborough somebody Lord no practice today for either player. They were not spotted there. Josh Jacobs is dealing with a hip injury right now, Daryn Waller's dealing with a knee injury right now, we'll see whether the raiders have the services of either player but if they do clearly, it doesn't seem as if will be full strength for a big matchup against bill, Belichick and the Patriots Dan what are you expecting from them? If Waller does in fact, end up being healthy Heavy dose of Waller because the Patriots have to answer like, how are they going to match up? It's almost dose of their own medicine from years ago withdrawn, right like how do you? How do you match up with a big physical athletic route running tight end? There's just a lot of people that. You feel comfortable. Maybe it's Doug Rookie second round pick at safety put. This is the raiders have done is they've kind of built this offense alluded bit around Waller Waller's that big physical matchup tight end, and then you've got hunter renfro great on third down you're GONNA put on rent renfro on third down rugs who do you feel comfortable runaway rugs Josh Jacobs is a two way back. So the raiders have built his offense to be very situationally matchup a problem. You know what I'm saying like in specific situational football's they got really good people. So this'll be a challenging a big time challenge for the Patriot defense. What a defensive mind to take has watering don't beat him like his Mo. he's not going to allow your best player to take over a game and beat him and and that's that's just the reality. So like we saw the saints later in that game, start the double team and start to pay more attention and obviously they have other weapons. Josh. Jacobs. Obviously the run game. Tell Steph, listen you got roads take him away because he is that type of corner I noticed speed as a thing. But Stefan Gilmore. We'll figure out a way to eliminate him rose especially being a freshman I mean rookie. This year waller is not going to be Bill Belichick. If he does I'll be shocked and it'll be one of the first times that I've seen bill belichick allow somebody with that type of field the previous week to carry type of over into a game against him defensively to. Marcus's point bill ballot check always is able to at least take somebody out of the mix you can key in on that guy if you're going to pick between waller or Josh Jacobs at the guy that you need to eliminate who is it? the because you can. You can stack the line of scrimmage, eliminate the run game but if you get that tied in the safety valve for carve out of the way. That, you win here in that battle, the Keefer Belichick to could be Cam Newton. He scored two rushing touchdowns in each of New England's first two games this season if he gets two more scores in the ground this week and he becomes the first quarterback in the Super Bowl era reward three straight games as a good nugget rushing touchdown nude nuggets. Pretty good. Okay. One more thing before we go and shefty is going to start us off their. or Pro nose tackle Damon snacks Harrison who openly said that he was contemplating retirement has decided to return to play. The season is scheduled to visit the Seattle seahawks next week, take us some defensive line. Help me snacks will catch on in the Pacific. Northwest. All right and mine Baker may feel do it again listen I've heard the talk about the fancy and a tremendous job he did call and plays. Covers all now it's time to carry that consistency over look at looking forward to see if you can continue to grow A. Look at the rams. The Rams could take care of business up to buffalo to against two and. Then they are going to be real and be real contenders. I. Look at this situation Robert Woods going back to buffalo for the first time that was a team that drafted him. I know he has a chip on his shoulder watch out buffalo. America get ready tonight to be reintroduced to Percy, Harbin to be reintroduced to a big thicker. Alvin. Kamara with lavish PGA should note this guy is a powerful explosive player for the Jacksonville Jaguars throw it to them they'll hand it to him. He'll be a part of their return game. He is summoned to enjoy watching tonight on national TV. K. Got all confused. There he thought. It was back in the guy you know he was talking about coming back a couple of weeks ago. That was. Like what did I miss something?

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Warren Sharp

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I mean fantasy season's just about here too crazy. How fast it comes around each year. Now, check him out on. Witter Evan Silva. Like I do I'm Ross Tucker, longtime NFL off into Lyman. Well, at least seven years felt like a long time. And now broadcasting, we've got a bunch of different podcasts. Most of you already know that. But if you don't you can certainly check him out over at Ross Tucker dot com. Lot of good stuff for you. Speaking of good stuff, if you guys like meat. I've been talking about this on the Ross Tucker football podcast, you've got to go to butcher box dot com. Best meet I've ever gotten from any service that sends it directly to your house. If you use the code Tucker, you get twenty bucks off and free bacon every month, which is amazing. Anytime we can get Warren sharp on the show. It is an awesome, awesome day, if you're not following at sharp football on Twitter. You're just doing it wrong. And if you're not buying his book, you're doing it wrong. What is the status, by the way warn of the book, my guess, is it would be ready to go, but you have an editor who just won't get it done for you. No, it's, it's, it's, it's getting close. This thing is really a labor of love. It takes forever to do because it's pretty much myself writing it. And then I have as an who edits it, but they're still more chapters, that I have to write some of the up front matter is still in process. But all the team chapters you're finished Evans, working his butt off to edit those and get them done. The current status. We're looking to have this thing out by July second. So right before everybody had to fourth of July, they can they can hopefully get a copy. And, and that's where we're looking at right now. Awesome. And for people that don't know I think most of you already do. He is pretty much the best in the business when it comes to this stuff. You gotta check out Warren's predictive. NFL analytics visualize data at sharp. Football analysis dot com and sharp football stats dot com. I obviously made the joke about the editor because Evan is the one editing your book, and I know Evan, you have some specific questions for Warren, just based on, you know, you're, you're reading through of his book. Yeah. I mean, well, while I'm editing. This book, you know, it's like picking a mind warp into the mind of orange charts. You know, so I get the way that he like thinks, but I still come away from from editing with some questions. But also I wanted to just ask some questions that I kind of already knew the answer to just from having edited the book, but so that the audience can get a taste and also shout out to Matt Kelly of rodeo underworld or also helping on a bunch of edit it edit on some teams later in alphabetic got a sixteen of the teams done on the front, and at the time of alphabet, and also Adam, our stat of football guys who, also helping out with some of the editing. We got some really good guys on the job yet. Let's, let's start, it off one of the big topics that you had talked about really for years, but teams are still not doing enough of is early downtown. Thing to running backs throwing the football so running backs on first down. Teams are still running the ball too much and often just straight up the middle. It's a it's a comfortable play almost for them to call, but you continue to advocate for throwing the football two running backs on early downs. Particularly I down. Why do you think that that's so beneficial warrant? Why do you think that, that, that doing that is such an efficient play? Well, it's, it's very efficient play number one, because the Mustafa times throw the ball R when the defense is playing run and the optimal times to run the football are when the defense is playing path, and you can create conflict, with the defense when they think that you're going to be hitting the ball, off to the running back, but you're actually throwing it to him. In addition to like the schematic edges just in general of getting the ball to a player out in space away from the congestion of his five offense of Lyman, plus one if there's a tight end in their lined up in line is was the defensive line. All sacked in there in linebacker shooting down to fill the gaps you could get the guy out in space a little bit easier. He gets the ball quickly, he to the line of scrimmage, technically. The, the horizontal line cross field quicker than he would be if he's trying to fight through all the traffic and he has the ability to see who's coming out of and make a move against them. They are more success. People have higher yards per play. Then do run place. So there's a ton of advantages and I write about it at length in a couple of different team choppers with some various teams that are able to run the ball, a lot more effectively as are sorry, throw the ball and running back a lot more effectively. It's just a high floor play the completion rate is extremely high on these plays. And it really is one of these like extended handoffs. And, and so it's just so officiant, it's much better than running the football. But let's take one team, for example, the Carolina Panthers. So in twenty sixteen Cam Newton, they pass the ball, six least of any team in the NFL on early down, and neither early down passes nor Russia's exceeded a forty six percent success rate in twenty seventeen. Newton pass the ball, the fourth least of any quarterback in the NFL on early down and neither early. Down passes nor Russia's exceeded a forty eight percent success rate. So they're below average on whatever they do. There are very run oriented team on early down and turn north Turner. And I for one was a little bit skeptical as to what we might get out of this offense. I didn't know how Cam would mesh with nor I thought there could be some problems in that heading into the season Cam actually post his best year as a pro if you're obviously his twenty fifteen season where three thirty five touchdown with better. But in terms of his efficiency, his completion rate, his yards pretend hit one of his all time highs, especially in the last four in last three years. They pass the ball on early down the eleventh, most of any team in the league and those early down passes plus Russia's both exceeded a fifty three percent success rate. So by then passing the ball more it actually made the run game a little bit more effective inefficient as well. Well, because defenses didn't get to witness all of these predictable run plays so frequently that they were prepared to stop so by creating that conflict it helps makes the run game more efficient, and it certainly make Cam more efficient on early downs, and he had he ended up having a really good season until of course he got injured late in the year. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned that the predictability and especially in the Jaguars chapter you talk a lot about how frustrating their play calling was particularly in that, that patriots game that they blew that a chance to go to the Super Bowl. They're up by two scores and the the play com. What we'll get more into that when we talk a little bit more about the thing hockey. Now is the Packers offense coordinator. I wonder if that'll be a concern there. But yeah you just look at the cat traits running backs. I mean, they're, they're usually like in the eight to eighty five percent range, and then the catch rate for a wide receiver typically in the sixty to sixty five percent range, so you're giving yourself a really high for high percentage play. You're getting the ball to a frigging NFL running back who is, you know, maybe conver- pound the most athletic player on. An NFL roster. You know, a guy who can run for four at two hundred twenty five pounds. This guy's like a an unbelievable athlete any grew up returning kicks. And he you know, played running back all his life and you know, he's really good with the ball in his hands. The Cowboys also did a better job of that last year throwing the ball to a CTO Elliot on early downs, his receiving usage, spike, and that was, I think that one team that we may see do that. More is the Jaguars because under Nathaniel Hackett. They did it so little so little early down. Passing two running back, even though they had TJ yelled in a very good receiving back on the roster. I would love to see them get wintered for net involved more as a receiver on early down this guy's average eight and a half yards per -ception since entering the league. He's got right around eighty percent. Catch rate. They're capable receive. Ver- you know as opposed to banging him into the back of the offensive line. And you know, risking more injuries. I mean, the guy has been on the shelf quite a bit since entering the league wanted to move onto the next question. And Lenny Levy, Jack, I wanted to say that, if you look around the league, okay, one, I, I was on the early down past two running backs like you mentioned several years ago. But one of the things that I've noticed over the last couple of years is pay close attention to some of the really smart teams in the league he what they do. You know track with the youth to highest teams with the highest pass rate to running back on early down to the NFL are the patriots and the New Orleans Saints. And we've got two of the most efficient smart creative play callers in the league, and Sean Payton with the New Orleans Saints and up in New England, obviously Bill Belichick is leading. That offense in the overall team, but to smart coaches and two great Pro Bowl hall of fame quarterback yet, they're throwing the football two running backs because they realized how much it helps the quarterback performance and the performance of the offense anybody can do it. I threes out thread about or post about how Andy Reid is so awesome with designing these running back passes, especially on early down people need to go and often scores to study the way to Andy Reid designs, these running back passes because they're the best in the NFL and more teams around the league needs to realize an in kind of I think swallow their pride a little bit. They wanna like develop and design all these downfield passes on on car sounds or six to run a little bit. Why don't you just try to focus on the upside of what some of these really smart teams are doing, and they're actually throwing the ball a lot to? They're running. Yeah. And I wanted to just move on to a couple of offenses that you and I are in lockstep on both of these, and we think that they're going to be better than it seems like the public release right now, number one is the cardinals moving to clip Kingsbury the, the comparison, that is most commonly drawn east to chip Kelly. I guess, just based on the fact that they came from college and, you know, they play fast. And, you know, I think people forget that chip Kelly's offense was awesome that he'd like literally took the league by storm. And then he was giving GM duties any traded away all their good players. And, you know, I think definitely some ego went into that. He just felt like he's scheme was, you know, in mattered more than the players, essentially, and I think that that was his downfall, not the offense offense was. Torn to pieces by the rest of the league in terms of just stealing takeaways from from chip Kelly's often. I mean the offense really changed a lot about the way that we that offense is point is played today even though he didn't have like ultimate one loss success in Philadelphia. And then the, the other often, so I think we are higher on than most people is the ravens offense and that doesn't seem to make sense, because, you know, you talk so much about how you believe that the passing game should be more balloonists in the NFL, but the ravens are running team. So you just talk a little bit about those two offenses. And maybe why your more optimistic than most people about them this year? Yeah. Let's start with the last one. The Baltimore Ravens than I agree me a lot. It's fun to hate on Baltimore. Right. Because they're building their teams wholly different way to building with tight ends. They're building on the ground. But the cool thing about the ravens is I'm a firm believer in the league that if you find something different to do, and do it, really, well, you're going to have success. Now we know the underlying values in the league and what's more beneficial to pass the football, especially more often on early downs. But the way that the ravens run the ball is in a totally non traditional men are, and they're having a lot of success in doing so, and you have to study the strength of your team and incorporate that I think a lot, one of the biggest misconceptions of the Baltimore Ravens is Lamar Jackson ability to throw the football, you know, myself and a lot of people watch the game. And they, they see all these mistakes that he was making last year and they see all these problems. But if. You look at what the March axon did last year. It was really impressive. His seven point one yards per tent was better than flacco in any of was last four years. The March axons eighty four and a half pass rating. Not great. But I was better than Joe flacco in any of his last four years. He's touchdown. Right. Three and a half percent. Bette better than flacco in any of his last four years. And oh, by the way, the mar- Jackson didn't have a full training camp got inserted, midway through the season as a as a rookie. So he didn't get all of the starters rep during camp. They came in and they completely overhauled the office. They shifted everything in the span of a BI week. They went from the number one most pass heavy offense in one score gains to the most number one run heavy often in one score games. They completely shifted out of both. They're starting running backs like the guys who will getting all the carries. They threw them to the curb brought on new running back through. We're gonna run in this offense and Lamar Jackson house. You take all of that on the fly now is. A huge credit and testament to the coaches that were surrounding him. But I like the coaches that they've got this year with Greg Roman. He's got a ton of history on having productive running quarterbacks that are able to do things if you talk about like calling Catholic if he talk about some of the things that tyrod Taylor was capable of doing under Greg Roman. So I'm big on the ability of the Marge actions in the offense to Tinus continue to develop himself, and yes, he needs to get better as a as a pastor. There's no doubt about it. But I'm very optimistic with the way that this season ended, and I think that it's weird to say that they went to the playoffs, and they got their butts kicked by the chargers and the chargers really limited them in, in terms of their overall success rate, and their yards per carry on the ground. They cut out the run gauge, but what ended up happening was this team was forced all of a sudden to lean on the Mark Jackson and he was going up against the. NFL number ten pass defense. He delivered in the fourth quarter eight and a half yards per tenth at a one seventeen passer rating. And I think really gained a lot of confidence in doing that. And I think that's a great way to transition and into the twenty nineteen season whereby the ravens don't have to just rely entirely on this ground, Dane. They've got pieces in place through the rock where they can start throwing the football a little bit more down the field with Markeith Brown being drafted miles boykin. They've got tight ends who could play in the passing game as well. I think they're going to be able to entrust them are his arm a little bit more. And this is going to be very difficult often to predict what they're going to call on various place. And that's what I talked about earlier being unpredictable creating conflicts for the defense pre snap. I think they're going to be able to do that with regard to the Zona cardinals, again a very different and unique style of offense that they're going to be rolling out there. If you talk about the four verse ten. Personnel, which is one running back. No tight end four wide receivers we're going to see a lot of shock on a lot of passing and the first and foremost thing about a team, especially team that's going to rely on throwing the football more is the quarterback. The quarterback has to be good. And I actually was speaking at MIT Sloan analytics conferences past year and Mike. Leach was there. And I talked to Mike Mike Leach into green room a little bit. He of course, is from Texas Tech of Washington state. He's one of the like the guys, the godfather, so to speak of the air raid often and he, he mentioned, five of the key traits that he cares about in order for quarterback in his first one was accuracy. Second one was will really make good decisions third one is does he have quick feet. The fourth one is he fast and it's very bottom of the list. The fifth one is does he have a strong arm. And he said, most of the hall of fame quarterback possess only three. Three of these traces about Tom Brady and drew Brees. You know, not nothing. There's guys are really quick. They're not fast feet. But there they've got the other thing Cuyler Murray. That's probably at this point four of those five traits time will tell if he makes good decisions at the NFL level, but he's a very good prospect to sit in this offense. And so I think it's just a great starting basis for cliff Kingsbury with the way that this offense is gonna spread you out and be able to dice you up. Yep. Just in just two quick notes on each of those offenses Ramar Jackson as a passer, Louisville got better every single season. I mean, we what we saw is the worst case scenario so far for Lamar Jackson. He took. And you talk about this a lot in the book. He he took second team Repsol last off season. They recreated their offense on the fly, you know, during their Biden, essentially last year. He they overhauled the receiver core. They got a bunch of young talent and speed and lettuces and in the past catcher core. I think Mark Andrews. It's highly highly underrated and undervalued heat I do a fantasy corner at the end of each chapter. I it at it and he was the subject of my, my fantasy corner for the, the ravens page. You know, I love the speed of marquees Brown. They've got a pretty good offense of Ryan all their other big time stugz coming back and. Then for the cardinals, you know, the biggest source of criticism of the cardinals is are they going to be able to protect island Murray, but cliff Kingsbury, first of all, they are going to be able to protect Kyle Mary. Number one is his mobility is going to be like a nightmare date change from San Bradford and Josh Rosen. He's going to make the offense of line. Look better with Kingsbury was great and making his offense of line, look better. You know, in six years at Texas Tech killed me at one offense, lineman drafted during that entire timeframe, we're raven Clark like barely lasting in the league. So they had to make do with inferior talent again you talk about all all this in the book. You talk about how a mummy how he came up with the air. Raid, spread offense. But if kings were especially with so good about having his quarterbacks get rid of the football quickly and number three, they did make. Off season. Additions to the offense of line, Marcus Gilbert, when he's been healthy. He's, you know a top ten right tackle in the league, and they did sign JR Swayze to shore up one of their guard positions, there, Senator makes them Cole is entering a second season had a rocky first year. But you know he could he can make a big year two week. They've got Justin Pugh resident been great in the NFL, but he's been a starter for a long time, and they need Jay Humphries to stay healthy and look at still going to be, you know, when we do Ross is offensive line tears. It's probably still going to be a bottom five unit. But I think it's gonna look a lot better on the field because of the mobility and because of what cliff kings were stresses offensively. Let's go back into you'll Hackett who was devout about running the ball. Up the back of his center often is backup center last year f-, especially after brain linger went down, but he was adamant about doing that. And we don't know that was kind of forced upon him by Doug Marrone, or what have you. But he the Jaguars play calling with Nathaniel, Hackett was, you know, directly in the eye of what you kinda preach warring now he goes to Green Bay should be worried. Should we be worried that the thing you'll Hockett is going to make more sub optimal play calls when he goes to Green Bay with with not look for? Well, you know, it's, it's a tough call because I don't really know what the hell was happening with the Jacksonville Jaguars wouldn't sale Hackett. I mean for a couple of straight years, he had issues, they were playing way too conservatively when the team how the lead, especially in the second half and in the fourth quarter, that's how they blew the lead to the patriots. And if championship game despite being ten almost heading to the Super Bowl, that's how they blew the lead against the Pittsburgh Steelers last season when they were up, I think it was like sixteen nothing late in the third quarter and they blew that lead. And he got fired not long after that, you know, they, they I do not like the way that he calls Claes in certain situations, but, I guess, from from a positive perspective. He's got a fresh start. Any actually filing has a quarterback who is going to be able to be entrusted to throw the football in, in Raleigh, so that you don't have to build your offense around Blake Bortles that being said. I think most of this offense possibly is going to be called by Matt leflore and not the floor. I don't know what the heck that guy was doing last season. When he was with the Tennessee titans. Again, I realize you do have Marcus mariota and you're dealing with his arm and his passing but even before Mario got injured. This team was running the ball at a tremendously high rate. I did not like the way that the offense was trying to often Lee, call place and this team. You know he came in there. This is the most frustrating thing about not leflore coming into Tennessee for the one season. They had Doug Marrone. It was a Tzadek smashmouth. That's what this team was. It was on the ground run the football establish our identity run the ball and different unique ways which really weren't, so different than meet their ghostly, just bad. And they brought in not the floor to try to change in overhaul. It's often, give me a touch of Sean McVay sprinkle, some shamans bay dust all over the Tennessee titans. Let's make this offense exciting eleven personnel. Let's call off no place and what ends up happening. He ended up running the ball, more frequently and less efficiently. Then did Doug Marrone offense in neither of the two years at Doug Maroons offense was there. I mean, this team was running the ball more than the exotic smashmouth and doing so less efficiently. So I don't know what we're going to get up in Green Bay with these two guys going there. They obviously need to optimize their offense and their decision making it doesn't help that not before I think towards achilles. So he's having to coach and get his team together from a cart. He also is having to you know he's talking about Aaron Rodgers and, and he doesn't want him calling in the audibles are gonna go start debating over that they they've got a lot of work. Hopefully it's more smooth transition than what I. Invasion, but I definitely have some concerns with that often up there, although I will say it can't be that much worse than it's been in prior years. So hopefully upside is the way they're going to head into nineteen. Yeah. That was something that stood out from the, the Packers shafter talking about met with words history and housing during his one year in Tennessee rain, the ball, actually more than the Mike malarkey offenses from two thousand sixteen thousand seven and. But hopefully I mean what I've wanted for about who's just give like the, the rainy thickness, you know, give them the Ben Ross for treatment. You don't need to coach in Rogers hard at this stage of his career. Just let him be the offensive coordinator, you know, and just you worry about the rest of the I, I think the Enron there's plenty capable of doing that. But it doesn't seem like they're gonna they're trying to do that at all. It seems like they're really trying to install because the side of kneeling installed of an entirely different offense because one of the things Matt look did was when he got the Green Bay, which he showed the team of video of, like you know, that thousand sixteen year with Matt Ryan run when a bunch of, you know, Burkle vertical cuts down bombs and you know it seems like that's the offense that they want to install in Green Bay. It's good luck to them. I you know, I thought that Frank rights might become one of my favorite NFL coaches, assuming the admitted that in Philadelphia. He was doing the research projects on conventional reason, thinking, and seeing if those kind of old football axioms still held crew. Some of them are not some of them did. But I love that about Frank right where you think Frank Reich most separated himself as a promising votes in his food few with the coal flats year. Oh, and also what do you think about that? You know, he got criticized a lot for going for a fourth down overtime in the Colson territories against the Texans people say it costs them a win. Well, what is thoughts on Frank writes in you want? I was extremely impressed by what Frank Reich did there? I think he's just a really smart head coach first of all about play. Call on fourth down by the numbers. It was the right play. If you look at the time remaining and realize that he didn't get it then they're probably going to lose the game. That is very true. At the same time if he punts the ball, then the games, probably going to be tie. And I think he realized that he'd rather just go for the win at the time may not help them so much, and he really wanted to spark his team and show them, a lot of belief that team how great record at the point in time, and he really wanted to come in and show them like a teaching moment. So I think he was able to couple that with this, plus EV decision and you know, it didn't work out. But guess what? The rest of the season did and his strategy with Andrew luck. Also, worked out a lot of coaches, especially coaching his own division, their Bill. Brian would not have taken the same approach would not have taken this approach what? Of how what he did with Andrew lock. If you look for instance at villa Brian, this is one of the most pass heavy. Sorry. Run heavy offense is in the NFL not taking proper vantage of DeShaun Watson break. Right comes in, and all we hear the entire off season is that Andrew luck has the thrown pass. Andrew luck is not in football shape Willie ever even play again. What's going to happen to his arm? This is such a disaster. He's been through in college football. He's been throwing a pro football is the throne high school football. You know all these different discussion points about is he throwing a tennis ball? What is even throwing and everybody was so scared of Andrew lock. And what is Frank Reich, do they go? Sixty percent pass on first downs in the first half the third highest rates in the NFL. Why is he throwing the ball so much with a quarterback who he got questions about his arm? We don't know what he's going to do it. We'll guess what? That's going to keep them out of third and long situations. By having a high pass rate on first down they're going to avoid that. And guess what they say the second fewest average yards to go on third down, only six point three yards to go. That was the second best rate in the entire NFL by being social a pass heavy team on first down in the first half they ranked six in my customers. Politic really down success rates. So they're really good at bypassing third downs altogether. And when they did get faced with third down. There were very achievable third down situations that helps the quarterback that prevents him from taking extra hits an extra damage that you sustain when you're in third and predictable, which is like third in law, so Frank, right? Did something came into something completely non-conventional that most coaches would not do with a quarterback like Andrew lock and had a lot of success. Another thing that he did was he adapted his personnel, the six week. When Jack Doyle was healthy. The colts used the third knows twelve personnel, and the third least eleven personnel on early down. So they were very much too tight end team when Jack Doyle was healthy. But when Jacqueline went out, obviously, we know he got injured, we had high hopes for him last year, but he got injured their eleven personnel rates skyrocketed, they were the third least when Jack Doyle was healthy, they went to the second most eleven personnel, any tire league once Jack Doyle went out when passing on early down. So Frank Reich clearly adapted to his personnel. So he did a couple of things most coaches don't do he passed the ball a lot on early down. One of the highest rates in the league which helped them avoid third along situations and did so with a quarterback that the entire media sphere was talking about is, is not even ready to play football this year. And then he also was a great at adapting personnel, something that a lot of other coaches. Don't do enough. They say, well, this is my system. I wanna run this and I'm just going to execute this. But Frank Reich realized when his player went down, he's gonna have to overhaul a lot of the things that they did. And he was able to do that. And his team had a ton of success, the first year in Indianapolis that I'm obviously optimistic about his ability to continue making plus easy coaching decisions this year and into the future up in India. Last question that I have worn and then we'll get you out of here is just the bears. I, I remember last year, a lot of people like the bears on the over in their win. Total beds. Do you think the bears continue to progress from what we saw last year? Or do you think that they take a step back? What a bears had so many things going for them last season. If we remember they had they were one of the most speed up injured teams on an annual basis like starting in two thousand sixteen they were bottom five team in terms of their injury rate, literally, the last two years. Thirty two and thirty one they moved up to the third most healthiest team in terms of adjusted games loss, which is a football ciders metrics that they track that's a huge benefits that they had last season. They also has one of the easiest junks in terms of strength schedules that they played from twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen it was the easiest jump in the league in terms of the shift in strength of schedule. They got a ton of new players that the added to the mix, whether it's Alan Robinson Taylor Gabriel trae Burton. And then, of course right at the start of the season. They add Khalil Mack on the defense. And so this is like a night and day difference from John FOX and Dowell loggains is awesome to coordinator to. What they brought in with Matt Nagy the increase health better players, the easier schedule Mitch Trubisky sophomore season which ended up being a lot better. And a lot of quarterbacks do have better sophomore seasons. I'm not so sure that this year we're going to see the same level of expectations. I mean this team should still be at good team a strong offense all things being considered. But their schedule of run d senses takes one of the biggest junks difficulty this year. They don't have Vic Fangio's genius on the defensive side of the football. And, you know, if you look at who they played last year hugged him having a easy schedule when they did play good quarterback lake Tom Brady. Like Aaron Rodgers like Russell Wilson. These guys are putting up decent numbers against them. Even Brock Osweiler put up ninety was like a ninety four sorry at nine point five yards per temps into one. Oh, four. Passer rating. So the, the defense look, awesome against like in Nathan Peterman, and Eli, and Nick Molins, foles Sam darnold, Sam Bradford. But they didn't do quite as well against some of the more both average quarterbacks in the league. And they've got a tough schedule this year. They play the saints charters eagles and Rams in a five week span. They end the season with the Cowboys Packers chiefs in Vikings in consecutive weeks, like I'm not super high in the north. I think not Patricia is just just poor peeling the offense of the Detroit Lions and it's terrible way with some of his reliance on the run game and forcing his team to be more run heavy offense. And and I'm not overall just as high on the NFC north, as some people are. So I think the bears are certainly going to be contention to win that division. But I don't think the season is going to look nearly as easy to them this upcoming year as it did last year. Warren, where can people get your book and I'm no? If I asked you the name of it at the start so people can find it when it's available. It's just gonna be called Warren, sharps twenty nineteen football preview, and it's going to be sold up on Amazon probably around July second. We haven't got it officially, you know, certified to be published there in terms of like accepted, but it's, it's going to be submitted their and it usually takes about a three day turnaround. So as soon as we're done, it's going to be up there on Amazon, and that's, that's the best bought to find it. You can also eventually by the PDF, if you prefer the PDF at short football analysis dot com. But the book itself, the best spot to grab that is definitely going to be Amazon. Awesome more and always appreciate the time. 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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 147: Week 10 Streamers (11-9-2018)

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 147: Week 10 Streamers (11-9-2018)

"Golden State media concepts fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice has decided who to draft on first round cowing Gaga, and how to learn of your team got you covered dishes. China's steel leaks. He on Lee ID DP Ely. Even daily fed to see football league shawna's as we break down all the question of fantasy football. It's the Golden State media concepts fantasy football podcasts. How's it going everybody? Welcome to the G S M C fantasy football podcast. I'm your host, Mark Souza. I'm here with my good friend. I wish I had a witty thing to say right now. But I don't because things Jeff Mellon office with me. Jeff ho- host Seko's. Well, I think you wanted to be witty because I I do the witty things when I host. Yeah. You you called me a Robin earlier to your Batman dick, Grayson to my Batman. Yes. And I also said Damian Wayne, Bruce, Wayne, I've also done Dutch from redemption to to my Arthur Morgan redemption to reference, and you're my you're my Daryl to my Rick Grimes about that. Raymo- bromance? Cohen Daryl's bad ass compliment. Everybody likes jail the most. I think right. Would you Kaufman is something something up? Oh, you'd think that there's something behind this. Is there something like stealing your wallet compliment in? You know, is is Darrel like dead. I don't know yet or something. Oh, no. Okay. Sorry spoiler where he is still alive. Okay. I I didn't miss that many episodes pretty sure he's still alive. So Jeff we got a few things we need to talk about today last week as we do on Fridays. We do start hymns and systems in streamers, and we also pick our team. So that's how the segments will break down a day. I segment we'll do start them. We'll go each position which players are not necessarily slam dunks that you will start in your lineup week to week. What guys have the match ups that you're looking for maybe some players that maybe they got tough match-up? So we have a feeling that they're ready to have a breakout performance. We'll do the second segment some players again in the sim segment some players that you know. Maybe they are starters in your lineup. But you're not feeling confident. Or maybe you need to know about some things when making your line of setting those rosters for this week. We know that in fantasy football in week ten this is a crucial week. This is a weak or a lot of people need a win. If there if you're thinking about trying to get in the playoffs or solidifying that playoff. By weeks and things like that week ten is very very very important fantasy football. So again in segment three streamers will talk about players. Hey, maybe one of your players. God got injured in practice. Maybe he's fifty fifty to play need another option. Just in case that guy can't go. That's where we will help you find those gyms those those players that are sitting there that are available that you know, you need some production. You need ten points will find him for you. So jeffer- you ready to start off with the stardom this week. Are you ready, sir? I am mentally and motion Lee ready. Okay. Give me a quarterback that you like this week as a starter. Not just somebody on your roster of somebody who you like maybe like the matchup. Maybe they're not Patrick Mahomes. And you know, you're gonna start him every week. Maybe they're a guy. Like, I don't know Carson wins or Trubisky who do you like this week? Well, this guy. Has been doing a lot for his team. Even he got benched, and he's comeback, and he's still strong. Some people are still doubting. If you can do have you had a rough game last week. But he came back strong at the end give me Philip rivers Philip rivers against the raiders. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You say Ryan Pitz patchy didn't, you know? I think rivers is a very solid play this week. But do you think that there are people other though are considering not starting him in a very good matchup? Well, the thing with that is just like he is not really the focal point of the offense. It's Melvin Gordon that's focal point, and he can do so much more. I know he has nineteen touchdowns three interceptions. And I know he's having a great season with question about it. But I think Melvin Gordon is more of the guy that gets those attention on that team. And I think rivers is not getting any attention. He deserves. Sure. So I think I think people didn't really look at rivers as their starter. When they first drafted him. Right. Right. Probably their second quarterback. So he's probably like your second in your top lineup. And that's fine. That's a great backup to have. But for this game against raiders have Nick Mullins did against the raiders on Thursday night last week. Yeah. You gotta play them. I could see rivers finishing this week as a top five in a quarterback for fantasy. Yeah. I just think he's a lot of people still twos. Like, how drought orders go? I don't think he was very high ones list. Let me ask you a question would you if you had Tom Brady and Phil rivers on her team? Who would you start this week Tom Brady against the titans? Gimme the rivers. I agree on the raiders are just that bad. Okay. So my quarterback that I'm gonna say start is Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is ranked as the fourteenth best fantasy quarterback this week. He plays against the Rams. And this is why I think you start him first off you had a good game against the Rams already. Second off. The Rams can give up points. We saw last week. We saw that. The Rams defense is not nearly as good as their offenses. I expect there to be points in this game. So I like the up I like the game flow aspect where we'll see maybe the Rams go down the field the Seahawks. Go down the field back and forth football. That's what. You want when you're looking for players when you're looking for starters in fancy football. You want the highest green games, the most competitive games or these players will play all game and try to score every time that they're out there. Russell wilson. What do you think of that? I I can see him doing. Well. Okay. I would say it's still a. The question Mark to me because it just he's been inconsistencies opinion and bottom line is they're facing a Rams team. That's coming off a loss. And I think they're gonna one redemption they need about. They're gonna bounce back part of the never type of thing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure all right. Who's your order ski certainly quarterback Certa interrupt nowheres sarin for quarterback. You're another one. I do and it's gonna be a weird weird one. But he's also one of my streamers to go ahead. It's Josh mccown. Okay. That's contrarian play. But I'm I'm on board. Tell me why they're playing the bills to I knew to explain anymore. Okay. But the bills defense pretty good. We'll look at their yards giving up passing wise just yards. It's still to seventy four. It's still low. But the points they're giving up her game twenty six point eight. Yeah. I think that's I know they're the yards on the point is Lana. I think that's where you know that because Nathan Peterman will turn the ball over. And then the jets of the short exactly, and that's where mccown's get a shine. And he's also my stream when we talk about streamers later segments. That will also be my guy, Josh mccown. I I am with you there. I I actually like that. I think that it's an aggressive play. It's probably one you don't make unless I don't know you have one of these quarterbacks. These teams around losing streaks bills have lost their last four in the jets have also last three sums gotta give here. And I think. Both don't have the rookie quarterback's which was probably the main matchup. They had whenever I signing matchups. But Garrick nipping remembers Josh mccown giving mccown, and I think the count can have a good game because he's gonna out great position all due respect the beat, but he's gonna throw interceptions, and it's going to happen again. And maybe you gotta go at Kirk cousins your starter. He's on a BI week. So you need another. Yeah. Okay. So my next quarterback is Alex Smith, Alex buccaneers. That's smart, Alex Smith. Yes. You said it, right? There was the word you just said against to Buchan ears. That's it. That's literally Alex Smith is. He doesn't get you excited as a fantasy football quarterback. But the buccaneers defense is non-existent they give a ton of points at Tonny yards. You can see Alex Smith having three touchdown passes scheme. You really can. And even though that's not his MO. That's not really this offense. There should be a lot of points in this game. I expect the Redskins over thirty. Eighty points on offense. I think that they should hit thirty minimum. You're just looking at you look around you say, oh doesn't have the best wide. Receivers are the best weapons around him. And I agree with that. But it's the matchup. I think you can feel confident getting at least eighteen twenty fantasy points from this week with an upside of about thirty. So that's what I see. What about you want to transition to running backs? Absolutely, okay. Go ahead. Long start here is on the patriots. I know Stony Michelle is questionable. But I'm gonna James white. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, James white. He he's against this tines defense. Yes. It's a tough defense as we know Brady loves James Webb is leading receiver for the patriots right now any a six perceiving touchdowns, and he's running back, and that's pretty darn impressive. So why not go with him against tines defense that really hard to stop especially gets a patriots offense. That's rolling right now. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm with you there, obviously think James white is at worst a flex player for you. But he can be started by week is gonna be a factor. He's really good. He's one of the best running backs in fantasy football. I mean, period. So why not make him you're one for this week? I'm going to have an interesting take here. And this is somebody. That's also going to be one of my top streamers. Although this player is probably owned in most leagues Austin Eker. Melvin Gordon backup running back. We've seen them have three games where he's had starting caliber points. I think they play in a blowout gaming. It's the raiders. Melvin Gordon will probably probably see half the staff because the game will be so lopsided. They use their backup running back. Austin equa has proven that he can make a lot of plays especially in the past game. The raiders give up a lot of points to running backs in the past game. Even though awesome equa is not a starter. I still see the he'll get about ten to twelve touches this game. I think he scores at touchdown. I like him as a maybe you've got a gun a buy week or maybe got injured running back. I like Austin Necker. Yeah. I I could see him being a positive output. But pin being backup to Gordon is one of my key concerns with that. But it wouldn't hurt to have them like I assuming it's against the raiders, so ugly. I hate he'd bashing one team. But how bad the raiders are playing. This is definitely like this purposely taking and they and even though belvin Gordon's van great. They use. Cler they use them very much. He won't get like the stats goring does. But it's a little he'll still prove he'll Studer do progress and against and they're still fighting for a playoff spot. And then other team they're playing is not trying I can see director. The raiders are having his worst. You're gonna see ten fantasy points from Ecuador. I see that he'll probably finish in the fourteen to fifteen range if I had to guess, which would be a great solid start and play. I mean, we're talking about. We're not talking about your stud players already starting your studs. You're talking about guys like man, I really could use fifteen points for my flex or fifteen points from my Rb to right? So all right. So do you have another running back that you say, you know, he was my main one teams way, we don't have if you don't have another one because you can't go to wide receiver if you want, but I do have a interesting wide receiver that maybe you would disagree with ahead. But I'm gonna go with Dez Bryant stardom start Dez Bryant. Wow. You're not wanting to wait and see on him. What if you only plays though? Well in those twenty plays. It's probably to be red zone area. Plays in touchdown type of situations. They're not gonna like at when they're out there on twenty five. And the thing is the Bengals are giving up three hundred and thirty or thirty yards passing a game and twenty nine point six points per game. So why not take advantage of does Brian's new team and he's motivated than ever? And I think he can I think it'd be a great fit with the sings team. I think if you if you get chance to get him get him now start him now. Don't wait because you'll regret it. Yeah. I like that. He is an interesting play. I I'm not with you like I will say I disagree with you on this one. But I do like Terry you I like adding him to your team. I think he provides some value. It's the first week. He's been there for four or five days. I need to know that my writer. She Cooper score. And that's I tend he had twelve days. They had a bye week about twelve days to. Pair. So you know, what? I mean like how many plays will does play. We'll we'll find out. But I see what you're saying. He's definitely good addition to rosters. All right. So I have one. Speaking of well, I actually I'm going to do an about face here. I like new receiver to golden Tate golden Tate against the Cowboys Cowboys pass defenses, pretty good. But I think that Carson Wentz is going to love his new weapon in the slot. Golden Tate he provides Carson Wentz. A different type of player. And I like how the eagles are able to utilize when they bring somebody in their new offense. They brought Now Sean Jeffrey they found a way to use him. Really? Well, they brought in a giant last year. They found a way to use them. Really? Well, same with a Cooper Tate had some time to kind of work with the new offense. Get familiar I like him as a play. I don't think you should be worried about. About him this week. I think that you should start them with confidence. What do you think about that? Yeah. You conference? I feel like that's a coin flip to me though. It's kind of a risk to look at that. But you know, what it could be? It could be something. All right. Do you have another receiver another receiver? You know, what I've been I was high on this guy before I'm going to be high on him again. But it's late in the season for commit early Calvin Ridley Calvin really, okay? Yeah. He had another game last week. I know Julio Jones scored the touchdown into Christmas miracle and all that. But I do see Cal really coming back strong against this. I'm not gonna lie. Poor defense that's losing Denzo wars questionable. And he was like huge rookie defensive player. And I just see that. I just see Cohen really bounceback strong on this game. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm with you there. I think he's a really good player. And I seem continuing seem continuing this. So. For my next pick. I'm actually going to go with a Christian Kirk Christian Kirk from Arizona. I think that in a shootout type game or not a shootout. But I think the kernels get blown out, but they'll have to throw the ball a lot is where I'm going with this. And because they'll have to throw the football lot Christian Kirk has built a report with Josh Rosen. I think you'll get sixty seven catches and he has the opportunity score. Touchdown. So I think you could get your ten fantasy points just because of the game situation have to run a lot of routes. They won't be able to run the ball a lot. A lot especially in the second half of this game. So that's I got you wanna move on a tight end. Shirt lets you go first. Okay. So for tight ends, Jack. Doyle, I know that they're playing I know the colts are playing a very very strong defense a defense. That's very good against tight ends. But Andrew luck loves his tight ends. He throws the ball often to them in the red zone. Jack Doyle gives you the opportunity to score touchdown in a tough game. It might be against what people are looking at especially for playing daily fantasy. I think Jack Doyle player that a lot of people have weighed. I don't I say start them. I say pick them up on your daily fantasy. You'll get them for cheap. And he has to get eight to ten catches, and that's really tough to do as tight in fantasy football. Yeah. But unless you're like Travis Kelsey, you're like, George Kibble or. Yeah. There's not a lot right? Yeah. All right. So who's yours? It's giving another charter gates gates. You know, why? The raiders. Yes. If you have anybody on your team, that's charger play them. I'm sorry. I agree how they played against the. Mike williams. Yes. Keenan ellen? Melvin gordon. You just play them all in something will happen. I knew it. Explain why anymore. We go to defenses real quick. I know what d. It's a defense that I told everybody to pick up last week. It wasn't the jets, right? Oh, I was gonna say the chargers get that's that's a good one. Telling you. Shut up about the chargers. I'm gonna I'm gonna go actually with the bears. I know they had a rough. They had a great actually a great. They had a rough one. And then they had a great defense. Imagine against the bills defense with this lions. I think they can have another good game. I say jets because I I sat here, and I being that drum. I said go pick up the jets because next week they will play Nathan Peterman. E t s jets. I don't know if you take them up. Congrats also though the chiefs defense is a good play this week as they play the Zona cardinals. Yeah. But it's the chiefs. Do you really want that stay in your lineup because they are sloppy. I I would start them with confidence to be on. Okay. Well, let me ask you something. I'm for like if you're facing like, let's see if you're the bills and you're facing the jets and there's playing their backup quarterback also wouldn't use them. Yeah. The bills are the bills are definitely a popular pick. The only thing that I that. I am worried about is exactly why you said that you'd pick up Josh mccown. And that's because I feel so strongly that Nathan Peterman will put his defense and such bad situations that I don't want to have that defense. I had to go on the opposite spectrum. Josh mccown pay the bills will be a popular place base especially in daily fantasy. All right. So how about we take a break? Jeff when we come back. We'll do some systems. What do you say? All right. I've already sitting down, but we can do that. We'll be right back after this, right? Are you looking for the very best NFL and college football podcast? Then check out GSM see football podcast. Get the latest football both on and off the field from the NFL draft treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered GSM podcast dot com slash football. Dash pockets get up. College rivalries sites and much much more. It's football talk. The way you want. It this show and sport ball. Don't forget to like a month. Facebook and Twitter. Visit yes, MC podcasts dot com. For more info. Welcome back to the MC fantasy football podcast in the first segment we talked about which players are you thinking about starting which should think about starting. But now in this segment, we're going to move on to players that maybe in your starting lineup as of today, but maybe you should consider putting on your bench. Maybe you're confident in them. But we'll tell you maybe why you shouldn't be. But we'll also tell you. There's probably some some people out there some players out there that you think oh, man. This is a good game. But we'll tell you why we disagree. So do you wanna start off with quarterbacks that you're not too keen on this week? Yes, I'm not sure people are still playing him by Matthew Stafford. Yes. Last week. He had six point five six fantasy points against the Vikings is now scored fewer than eighteen points. All but of his of his two of eight starts this season. And it's a road trip against the bears. Yeah, I agree. Also all signs pointed not playing him. If you wanna win this week by does not a word the bears. Bears doubles. So I have a system. Andy Dalton Andy Dalton is a popular play this week because they're playing the saints AJ green is not playing. It's it's like a super defense the saints. Right. But aged green thing I can understand. Why people will wanna start them without AJ green? Honestly, they're kind of dead in the water in the last time. The Andy Dalton had a matchup where he or he's going to put up points was the chiefs game, and he was a huge in that game. So I say void. Andy Dalton like the plague. Do you have another quarterback? Or would you like to move on to running backs? I have one correct for Monday night football. I know we have show Monday. Illuminations the forty Niners. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I wouldn't expect most people are pointing him this week. I mean, maybe there's somebody out there. That's like e wise cousin. I'm like, he's probably like, okay. My corvettes on a BI week. I have him. Maybe you should switch them out with your by maybe save you some point probably play Molins. Instead for Monday night. He's probably taken a lawn and draft though, I was soom just for backup purposes is he starting out the restless season, they say. Yeah. Let's see. I I'm not necessarily saying bench Tom Brady. But I I think that if you have a quarterback another quarterback I would prefer over Tom Brady. Like if you have Russell Wilson Tom Brady, I'll take Russell Wilson. Tom Brady hasn't been that great offense quarterback this year. He really hasn't. Depends on the league that you're in. But he's in that ten to twelve range. I mean Stahl what you paid for when you drafted him as the second or third quarterback in your league. I'm not terribly enthusiastic about this matchup against the titans. I do think they'll win. But the patriots love to run the football. They run the football. You know, they run the football more than any team inside the five and ten yard line. Like they rolled from a good Super Bowl match. They had was impassable on the one. And you know, what that hurts for fantasy football. Like that. Hurts you want you want like Ryan Fitzpatrick who the bucks always throw the football Bill Belichick gives a rat's behind about fantasy football knowing that's why you should start Brady with confidences week. You should not how about systems for running back. You wanna go? I go. With all these batch AP's happening. I hate to say this. But a guy that I would that I would bench is. Mccoy because he's playing jets defense. That's kinda stellar. But again, he's probably not he got all into fourteen gums against the bears. I'm assuming he's gonna get more because Nathan Peterman is under center. But I don't know. I just he's he's lost a couple of steps. Yeah. I don't know if it's him. But that's situations. Can't be worse situation. Got Nathan Peterman. Your offensive line is not as great. They don't have receivers. Take the pressure off McCoy is just a bad situation. I agree. I would not start him this week. I'll go ahead with one. I think. A player that you should consider benching. It's not just one player. You ready for this all the Jaguars running backs? Sit them all for net. Hide and the Elden. I don't know. How took one of mine. I don't know how this backfield is going to shake out. And they're all three supposed to be playing. This'll be hides first game on his new team where he's had a couple of weeks now to learn the plays and things like that. For nets back Yeldan. I think will be relegated to the third down running back role. And he might actually have the most upside of the three. But if he's not getting any carries it all it really hampers his ability to score out of fantasy points. So so my last running back Carlos hides wide receivers. Now. Thanks, man. We can go I can give another running back. I'd like to stay on this one. For for a minute or two here. For running back. I will say. For system. You might want to consider sitting carry on Johnson. Chicago's defense is very good. Carry on Johnson. Did not have a great game last week against the Vikings. I think he's a fantastic football player. I think the matchup is terrible. I don't like the lions offense right now. Don't like what they're doing. He's probably going to get twelve to fifteen carries. But I would say he gets about sixty yards or west and does not score. I say. And he shall so. Do you have another running back or would you like to go to her receivers? Please your last one. Adam Humphreys, I'm gonna just go rain to Adam Humphreys system. Yeah. Now, right. He's been on fire though scoring targets last three game. Yes. Yes. But as for the Redskins have just one touchdown in an average of ten points per Seaver in the points per game for the receivers, that's sense. I read that was we'd reading of that. I'm sorry. But he the Redskins are good with the slow rec- were defense. So the planet safe here, they usually are. Yeah. But Adam for it's been on fire. It's interesting. I actually think I might be playing him this week. They'll still listen to me, your friend that doesn't mean we can't have difference of opinion. So you have Adam Humphreys, I say that you need to sit. Kenny goal day and Marvin Jones, I don't think you should start anyways receiver against the bears this week, can you go. They had a big dud of game last week. This was after golden Tate was traded. So we thought that Jones in go day would really step up with their production because Tate has gone the house to go somewhere. It really didn't go anywhere. I say bench all the lions receivers until further notice. Okay. Harsh to the we are harsh align the situation. I mean, we saw what they did last week. Do you have another receiver will? Yeah. Speaking of the lions the opposite end of the spectrum the bears. Alan robinson. Oh, yeah. He's such a this here. Yeah. He's been very disappointing. And I say don't bench don't start them. Unless you have you have to based off. Lineups by weeks. Yeah. Definitely. Let's see another system for wide receiver. I will say go ahead and sit. Jordy Nelson for sure that guy's been such a we had such a started off great. He did he did. But ever since what we four. Yeah. He had a couple of games in a row re scored yet over hundred yards, but he's been just non existent. Disappointing sandwich. All right. So would you here's Garret? But you two tight ends or shirt. I'm gonna go maybe. Questionable. But Eric Brin? Okay. Yeah. 'cause deals back and kind of eat news production. And the thing with that is also the Jaguars usually good against the tight ends on defense. Absolutely. Some quick run linebackers that can cover those tight ends. So arrogant. It's difficult doubt about it. But I think it's what's best. It's not you. It's me. It's it's not me. It's him. Yeah. I think we start were starting to sound like a broken record here. But I say sit Jared cook. I mean, he's he's one of those fantasy tight ends. I I would biliteral honestly took them off. I would have released them. But I mean, it's hard to because he's still one of the better tight ends and fancy football. He's on the raiders, I'm sorry raider fans, but your teen is in the chargers. The chargers are good against the past. Especially tight ends Drouin James their rookie safety has been really solid this year. So I say bench Jared cook until further notice. Yeah. All right. Do you wanna go into defenses? Sure, here's a defense to what defensive you said. I mean, they're kind of obvious here sitting have a backup defense. Some maybe some leagues I like to set my defenses. Sometimes I carry too because I like last week I picked up the jets defense. I'm sitting the Browns defense, I know the top I want fantasy defense. Well, when it comes to turn overs number one, but they're facing the falcons who have been on a roll like serious role momentum and touchdown, and I just don't see and with dens award. They're like who has like four picks this season or maybe two or three. He's doing really well is is questionable for this game. I think that puts a huge factor on who's guard Julio who's gonna go cow. Ridley there's too many options. The falcons have that. I don't think the Browns can cover all of them. I have a interesting system for defenses. I say sit Jacksonville. Okay. I know that sounds weird because if you have Jackson's defense, you're probably playing them every single week. But I like Andrew look to be very safe with the football. I don't think that there will be a lot of turnover opportunities for Jacksonville AJ bully as also out for Jacksonville. He is a very very good cornerback, which means that the passing game might have a little bit more. Freedom for Andrew look to find guys T Y Hilton just a Rogers. I really like Jack Doyle e Bron. I just don't think that there's a lot of potential for turnovers and sacks here. And I think the colts put up some points. So I don't like them. I don't like the Jaguars defense this. They don't like you. Do you have another defense? No. But I think we need to take a break. I got one last defense. We'll take the break up. I say you need to sit. The. Buffalo Bills defense shocking. No one, I know. I know their defense is good. But it's just what we talked about. It's Nathan Peterman. It's giving short fields. How can you trust a defense? When the quarterback is throwing the ball to the other team in tough situations. You're going to give up points. Just just tough situations. Always. Yes. So that's got. I think we need to picks needs minister to lay the guy drops a pass. That's right to them a lot. Yeah. All right. So let's take a break. We'll talk about streamers. Those are the fun ones. We'll quarterbacks nights fighters. Here's tight ends. Maybe even defense, but that's probably on this. But we'll get on that when we were turned. Check out the show that's built on the. Extreme cage fighting they got the fights covered checkout. GSM see 'em a podcast. Get the latest news on passed off coming fights. Join us as we talked to in some of the biggest names past president. When it's the fight game. There's just one shoulder checkout GMC podcast dot com. Back slash m dash podcast. Don't forget. Could follow them on Twitter? Visit GSM seeing podcasts dot com for more info. And we'll go back to the GMC fantasy football podcast. We've just finished charters systems. Now, we're going to streamers. Woo. All right. Why don't you start since you're so excited? Mark eat. I'm old person. Well, I said this at the start of restrooms. He's also my stream or Josh mccown. Okay. Because he's facing a bills team that throws Inish up Sion's. Like, we talked really know the skin throw the detail, but they get options with touchdowns, and he's going to take advantage of that. Josh mccown can have good games. It's proven that. He can have good games. Okay. Be she'll be in the NFL like nineteen different teams. If he hasn't. Absolutely. I think streamer that you should consider quarterback. I mean, I talked about our Smith already. But I'll talk about a different quarterback. Baker Mayfield is a streamer that you could consider for eighteen fantasy points possibly more. They're playing the falcons what let's not get it to a sit here. The falcons defense is still not very good. The Redskins were not able to take advantage of that last week. But Baker Mayfield at home. He might be able to see some better production. I liked last week that they got Duke Johnson involved with that offense. It gives him the ability to make some easier throws. It gives Baker Mayfield the ability get rid of the ball sooner. So look for him for a streamer this week. We'll speaking of do Johnson and the guy that was low at a couple of weeks going might not be low now. But I still think he is available. Most leagues do Johnson. He is. And I would just take advantage of take that definitely into consideration. Did you or what are you? Go ahead. Just a poor rushing defense. They lay let one hundred thirty eight yards per game average, and that's a lot. If Johnny gets more carries. I think he can improve and Johnson how Bill for quarterbacks. How do you feel about starting Nick Molins streamer, honestly? They're facing a really bad joins team. And they're at home again, and they are at home again. And it's a prank and they've had a lot of week two. They've had a lot of preparations. They played on Thursday of last week. So they're getting a full like eleven days in between. So yeah, let's let's go with that. We can make a mystery Mark. Okay. So for running back. I know it talked about earlier he's not a streamer because he has not available in most leagues how about Elisha McGuire. New York chits he's taken over the pass catching role. He played more snaps us than crow. Well, our than crow is not a very good football player. Mcguire could get six or seven receptions in this game from Josh mccown. He might be able to score a touchdown. If you're looking for a flicks where they can get you ten points. I think McGuire could be that guy. Okay. Cool. I like him to allege McGuire movie stars name. So you had Johnson. Do you have another running back nobody receiver? If you have another go for it. I just have one position if you wanna go for another running by be my guest, okay? How do you feel about? Let me ask you this which running back in Philadelphia. Are you most come comfort confident in between Josh Adams, Wendell Smallwood and Corey Combet this week Smallwood? Yeah. He's getting more those receptions, also. And I think that's gonna play big factor. I just small always planning stellar rate. Not like super amazing but still like consistently. Well, so I'll go small would on. How do you feel fun of a lot of school with the name small would? Yeah, he probably did in the, unfortunately, I'm sorry. You know, how kids are. A player that I think is interesting is Capri ABS Capri bibs, Washington Redskins. If Chris Thompson is out. Somebody's got to catch the ball. We all know about that books defense. They give up a lot of yards and a lot of points or the air. Capri bibs is that third down running back if. Thompson cannot go Adrian Peterson. Of course will be the starter and get all the carries, but they will need to change a pace back. He could be that guy. I say him as possible streamer. If Thompson can't go. So you wanna go to wide receiver? Sure. I'm going to go with the Green Bay Packers receiver Marquez Valdez scanning. Yes. Say that's returns fast. But he is the number two receiver. He's in. But there is an injury on that front of the Packers wide receivers. I think Z to get a lot more touches. I just feel touches or his and his possession. I just think he's getting end. And he's Rogers loves he's his favorite deep threat guy. And that is crucial loves the ball deep. All right. So. Talked about this guy, and you talked about them too. Adam freeze. I know that you're down on him. But he is a player that has become Ryan Fitzpatrick's favorite target over the last three games. He said at least eight targets in those games. He leads the team he has more targets and Mike Evans. He has more targets in Godwin. He has more targets into Sean Jackson. You brought up a stat. Jeff. And you were telling me how the Redskins are really good against slot receivers. Yes. But I think the focus in this game will be on Mike Evans who will be on the outside. I look for Adam Humphreys have a good game. I don't think I have a big game glass week. We had two touchdowns. But. I. I think we'll see home freeze. You know, getting that seven to eight catch range eighty to ninety yard range. He could possibly score. Touchdown. He might be a decent player to add for this week. Do you have another wide receiver that you'd like to talk about? No, I got one for each position. But I thought that was one of those crucial ones tight end. I have I have Jack Doyle. Just because. Absolutely. So I think Andrew luck always like to him when he was healthy. So you can't go wrong with that. Absolutely. I think Jack Doyle he was. He was my stardom for tight end. So I'm on board with that. And he was oddly widely available. This us weak, which I think I don't know what people are thinking there. But. I do have. A other receiver for streamer this. Oh, sorry. It's okay. Taylor gabriel. He's a slot receiver for the bears. The yes for the bears and the lions have. Not a good track record of stopping swat receivers. I think you see Taylor. Gabriel have a long touchdown catch five or six receptions and a touchdown. He could get over seventy five eighty yards receiving. I think he's a really solid streamer this week against wines defense that again gives up a lot of yards to slot players. So. That's what I that's what I think you want to go to you talked about tight ends. Yeah. That's all I got those little ones. So for a stream or at tied in. It's you know. It's kind of funny. The. The cupboard is not looking so hot for tight ends. But I have one how about Nick Vanette Seattle Seahawks. Ben Watson scored a touchdown last week against the Rams. The Rams defense is susceptible to giving a part of yards. Nick Vanette is Russell Wilson's favourite tied into us. I think we might see a guy that gets five or six catches in this game sixty yards or so he has a chance to score. Why not why not roll the dice on? I like him a lot more than some of the other notable players that are out there. In the waiver wire he might be worth a dart throw. So. Other than that. Do you have do you have a defense that you're thinking about streaming this week? No, all the defense seem pretty straightforward to me. What about the would you consider starting the falcons defense Cleveland? We were very highly on their running backs and stuff like that. So I wouldn't I would keep my distance. I think. Yeah. I mean, if you have like the jets have the jets on if you listen to guess, you should have the jets. What about like the saints defense against the bingles? I know you're thinking the saints defense is a very good. But bingos are without aged green. Andy Dalton my have really dud game against the chiefs. Hell, no, if you kind of fold, I'm I think I'm getting I think getting. I mean, it could be worth like dart throw. Who knows? All right. So what do you say we take a break? Jeff when we come back. We do our favorite segment of the week the last segment of the week that we do. It's no surprise that. It's our favorite since it is our west it's where we pick our teams and we compete against each other. For pushups, this is for thirty pushups. So we'll do that Ducky quack quack will do that. When we return. Built around the women of. From the UFC two extreme case fighting got the fights cover, the Golden State media concepts women's podcast, the latest news of of mice discussions previous matches as we talked to in about the biggest names women's mixed. Martial arts present and future. It's the women's game to listen to Golden State media concepts wins MMA podcast. Once again people welcome back to the fantasy bowl podcast. We are on the final segment of the day. We are going to talk about our fantasy teams were picking thirty push ups are on the line. And I'll let you get the first pick since you one last you're gonna. Oh, you're you're going to have the first pick quarterback pick. Oh. Who do we pick? Because I know we're not supposed to have back to back players. Don't remember. Okay. So Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. So I'm not going to go Mahomes. But I am going to go with Philip rivers. I wanted him. Philip rivers. Okay. Fine. Well, I had in my brain. I wanted Philip rivers. Okay. I never thought we would have to fight over remember four, but I'm gonna go Patrick Mahomes. Kind of have to situate. And now you're up for running backs. Give me Melvin Gordon. Okay. I'm taking full of ends of the raiders. Gordon? Running backs are tough this week. It's not as. A slam dunk as a lot of these. I'll take Todd Gurley. So it's me for receiver. Yup. Interesting. Oh, man. Where do I go from here? It is difficult here. But I'm going to go with Michael Thomas. Take mine. Go ahead with your wide receiver. Again. Well, Jeff is thinking about this. We pick a quarterback or running back a wide receiver tied in one flex player. We add up all the points. And of course, these are only players on pulling on Sunday. No, Monday night football, Thursday night football. It's one of each of those positions for pushups this week. It has increased five to thirty pushups. I would say my Kevin's, but he's questionable and I'm not risking that. So. You know, what gave me? I'm trying to find them right now cowboy. Okay. Tara boyd. Ira board from Cincinnati. Okay. So you're again tight end cancer. This cannot cannot. Who? Travis Kelsey knew it. I know I have a home. So it's a you need combo you need that connection. And you know what I have Kelsey and most of my fantasy leagues. So I'll be rooting for you. For tied in give me Zakar. It's on Sunday night football. Dallas cowboys. And now, we do flex boy. This is where it gets tricky. This is where. My pick. Right. It's my pick. I'm still thinking. Can I use Kareem hunt? Sure. Come on. This is important. This is the final on eighteen right now. And why an holding Alba chimera? I'm holding up. The quiet police Elvin chimera. Alvin kamara. All right. So let's take a look at the teams. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right. Jeff's flamboyant football team, bullying because they got some personalities on the team Jeff has Mahomes. Gordon Boyd Kelsey Kamara too dangerous line Marquez rivers girly. Michael Thomas Zakar? It's Kareem hunt. We will see how shakes out my friend. Do we have any injury news on any of these players that we need to be worried about I was checking every time. I was picking one they were not on the injury reports on any of mine were at least. Yeah. These guys are an injury doubt. So we're good. I was thinking like Mike Evans, but he's questionable. I'm not risking that. I know questionable means he probably will get burned last week. He got burn injury report. And he was out which doesn't make any sense might not put this week to. It'd be interesting to see. Like, he's like, I don't wanna play he's bell. But not a wave him them. It's a team like if it was up to him he'd play game. But he's an injury riddled title. Liability injuries. Not actually on the field. I was surprised that you took Tyra Boyd who yo- Jones was prized. But I understand. Well, the thing is the saints defense is worse than the falcons defense. Especially in the secondary. I mean, I get it. I was just surprised and falcons playing their defense that are playing I feel like let's let's face it who only has one touch on this season. It was America's like an eclipse. So why would I pick? I the only one touch on a guide boy has multiple touchdowns. And he's playing much weaker secondary. I'm with you. I'm with saints offense wasn't so unbelievably dominant. This team went up seven to one. That's true. Okay. So I think we're pretty much done here. Would you say, okay? So thank you so much for joining us, please. Please listen to other podcasts. If you're looking for football, news soccer sports baseball. 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NFL Draft 2021: Round 1 pressure, Best QBs, 49ers' pick, Patriots + Jimmy G or Justin Fields?

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NFL Draft 2021: Round 1 pressure, Best QBs, 49ers' pick, Patriots + Jimmy G or Justin Fields?

"On nfl draft. Can anyone challenge. Trevor lawrence is the best quarterback in this year's draft mack jones or trey lands. Do the san francisco forty niners finally have their minds made up at number three and which is a better option for the new england patriots. Jimmy g. or justin field asking for a friend. Good thursday morning. Everyone welcome to first things. First general alongside. Nick reid is ready for. Marshall obviously is ready. Get ready as well wilds. You must be ready for a wild ride tonight. Tons of rumors around the patriots heading into this one. Oh jimmy g. gear jimmy g. jerseys. They are not on sale yet. There for san francisco. You're the extra. Oh one guys were finally here. Twenty twenty one draft all set for tonight. Eight pm eastern. Nfl networks story aplenty going into this one. We got five. Quarterbacks expected to go. Early jackson jets appear set at one and two but after that. That is where it's going to be fun to watch it all unfold brand new more. So let's start right here. Which team do you think is facing the most fresher tonight in round one san francisco forty niners days ago. We listened to their press conference around thirty three minute press conference and you felt the pressure in that press conference john lynch coach kyle shanahan. It was so uncomfortable. I mean you give up so much to move up to three to get your guy and we don't know who you're gonna take. You're talking about mc jones now we're talking about trade lands. You gotta justin fields out there. This is a franchise altering move if you go. Hi with a really good team. You have a really good team. And if you get a quarterback that can give you consistent play you are back in the visit as probably the clear cut leader you go back to last year. Their record doesn't even show how good they was without jimmy or any quarterback. They lost most of their games. Most games they lost within like three or four points. So now you bring in a quarterback that could come in and beat a joystick. That bucky brooks always talk about. This team can be scary. So is the pressure on this team a lot. Because you've got to also think about what's going on individually the seattle seahawks. They didn't get worse. I don't know if they got better but they didn't get worse. Scenario scary team to cardinals. Get better the rams get better so the pressures on forty niners wilde's okay. I think the pressures on the jets and brandon. Could you stay on the screen you directly. I'm just having an honest conversation in the morning. We're my friends. People save up for a lot of things usually. They're nice things you save up for your child's college education so they can have a brighter future maybe a save up for an engagement ring to propose to that special someone you know what. You're saving up for my friend despite the smile on your face. I think you're saving up. I told you so. I think you have a nice little account. Or maybe a safety deposit box with index cards. And i told you so justin fields. I told you so trailing. I told you so. And this one's in the back of the mac jones. I think the jets have the most pressure brandon. You try to convince that. Zack wilson is the pick. You finally come around. But i think you were waiting breath. Come week two or three. give week one. Pass that you are going to be on this show and you're like wilds. You know what i told you. We should've gotten justin feels in there. I think the jets right had the most pressure tonight. Listen if you asked me that. A couple of weeks ago probably. That was the answer. But i talked so much about. Justin feels that i haven't talked. Highly are enough about zack. Wilson this kid can ball like this is this is what jay cutler his career is going to be with. Jay cutler's career. Were supposed to be like. He's that talented smart. I don't know what the heck happened with jay cutler. But we're talking about the flare we talk about the swagger we talk about just making plays off schedule like wilson is. I know that's a terrible comparison like brennan. Why did you pick jay cutler. My hands seventeen quarterbacks. He was probably one. Of the best. Quarterbacks i made so much money would jay cutler so i got to go with him. But that wilson we'll be fine it. That's where they choose the go nick. So here's the thing here. I'm gonna i think it's the most i on the niners or the jets but the jets might actually wilde's be my last pick for pressure because what's a good analogy here like how there's a lot of pressure on my older daughter win. Report cards get sent out because there are expectations. She's going to do well there. Let me tell you something about my son loving the debt. He felt no pressure on report card day because there were no expectations. No one was like. Oh god let's wait and see it was like let's just hope it's not a disaster off total disaster. That's the jets. Man jets fans are like please be a disaster like and it just be okay like we're fine. Can we just passed the class. So there's not pressure there you know who doesn't pressure to wild and i'm surprised she didn't say it your team the patriots. Could you look around the east. You look around the afc eased and sitting right. There is josh allen. who's you know. Some people think is very very good soon to be sitting right there. Zack wilson who has been the clear cut number two pick of this draft for the last months and then sitting right. There's two who i still believe in. He had a rough first year but was blue chip prospect just a year ago and the patriots are sitting there and i think they are going to be in a position tonight. Where if they want to. They can get justin fields. They're going to have to pay for it. It's not going to be cheap. But also don't think they're gonna have to pay through the nose like san francisco. Did the not gonna move up to four to get justin field. They're going to have to move up to eight or nine and i do think wild. There is massive pressure on the patriots today to decide. Do we want to go cam and do nothing. I don't do nothing in the season. Just stand pat. Go with cam. Do we wanna do a half measure which is trade for jimmy g. or do we want to do a full measure would try to go get our young star quarterback because the bills young quarterback the jets are about to have a young quarterback and the dolphins have a young quarterback. So i think it's a ton of pressure on your team okay. I think it's jimmy is going to be the answer so i don't think we're gonna make a move if anybody makes a move. I think it's going to be the bears trading up trying to get justin field in jena. There's breaking news stories tonight. It's going to be that the nfl draft is obviously happening in nick. Fanta josh allen. Fan breaking news programming. Likes josh josh josh allen. The great josh. Think he's very brandon. I i said some people thinks great. I'm not necessarily including myself in that group of people but go ahead branded. The bills have no brandon right. Then i just don't want to end this block all the negativity surrounding my jets. This is a big day for us. We're going to make a franchise altering move tonight. We haven't had a champion since joe nemeth. We haven't had one so lessen the jets. There's going to be a lot of haters tonight. Block out the noise. Make the right decision. Whether zack wilson justin feels it doesn't matter we'll be fine so i just want to lead this blog would've positively surrounding the jets jets jeff. Okay we promising brandon's he's going to be okay after the jets make their selection whatever. The heck has agreed to see the detail. You saw that right. Yeah it's subtle but not so subtle. Let's interact one ask you question. There was a little news last night. Broncos dip into the quarterback who yesterday they picked up teddy bridgewater from carolina. So now what is denver. Do they got the ninth pick. Do they get a quarterback. I don't know you inter out on denver. Still draft tina to be nine after acquiring for a six round pick. Well i'm all in. Because i believe in teddy bridgewater but i'm also all in on teddy bridgewater. Because like i said we'd say go. He trains her house badly. And i don't want to get off his set walkout there in the weight room and have to deal him because we have first things first. Brad all over our jumbotron in a weight room and watch it so i don't wanna deal with teddy bridgewater. Somaliland are so. I'm i for me personally. I'm out because i have a natural. What's the word. Hate for the broncos. Good sports and i want teddy to succeed. I want teddy to do well. So i'm a little conflicted. But i really do appreciate john. Elway continuing with half-measures quarterback drew lock was second round pig. Osweiler was second round big. We'll give you a six hundred for teddy bridgewater. Do we want a franchise quarterback like at some point. Folks are going to have to ask. The question is john elway. Just trying to protect his own quarterback statistical talking leader in everything like that. So i just wonder so i wish and i and i root for him but i as a cheese span like all right broncos. That's right after quarterback. Nope catty and drew. I like it good. Good news great well next ten is a starter in his young career. So it's exactly what elway probably wants talk more about the draft on the other side weeks player drafted tonight. We'll have the biggest impact on new team. Find out in that first. Things got us fired. Dining his jets jersey all morning works cited for tonight's draft. And what is jets are going to do. Let's make the call. Let's start with trevor lawrence the consensus number one pigs. Seen as a franchise change for the jags. We know the group of quarterbacks lightly joining him near the top brandon. Make the call. Who ultimately will be the best quarterback quarterbacks other than trevor lawrence other than trevor lawrence. Let me see obviously you guys know. I love justin fields. Something happened the last couple of days inside of me where you're not feel like i got this right where you know. I believe i know the guy. The guy is trade lands. I had this guy here. For a short period of time back in november december and there was something special about this kid. But i really didn't know much about him but over this over the last couple of months and going through this process and listen to people talking connecting them with him even more men. This do is special. I mean from his smile from his his his his his swagger. And then when you go on feel how he throws the ball different angles. He's big. he's fast. He's smart like this guy i'm telling you if he lands at number three with the forty niners in cows. Santa has a couple of years from now. we're going to be saying. Wow i don't know why they made this. They made the vet and it paid off in a major way. This kid right here. Trae land is the answer. I actually agree with brandon. I think that he's got the most upside of lawrence. I think the biggest risk of like sake lawrence out of at lawrence didn't really risk. Actually but i think he's the biggest risk as well. But if you were to say to me which of these quarterbacks other than lawrence has the best chance one day winning a league mvp. I'd also go with trae land. So that's co-signed that with brandon wilds. Okay triple crow cosign trae lance for me to. Here's why we had trae lance on the show and we tried our best to get a headline when you have a draft prospect on. You wanted to say something. First things first trae land said he'd better than tom brady. He didn't give us anything. It was a real patriot performance. We try to trick. Hey it's unfair. People say you didn't only through fifteen pass like you know i'm trying. My best was just a perfect performance. It showed sound strategy. Eat no risk. very smart. Very savvy so good job trae lance. You didn't give us anything in an interview interview. The your drafts. Think it's going to be awesome. Plenty good receivers in his draft as well. Jalen waddell march just to name a few brandon. Make the call who ultimately be the skill position player drafted tonight. I'm usually go to name just two guys. You don't wanna keep going and get to the actual right answer. The right answers the smith. I mean come on come on. He was the heisman trophy winner. Eighteen hundred yards twenty three touchdowns and the sec. Power five school. That is the answer brandon. Why are you going with winter. So many great guys even the names a gen mention well because i'm thinking about production i'm thinking about a guy can come right away right away and just pro ready like this do is going to be a shocker. Where he lands. And it's going to be high but he's gonna come in and this is going to produce at a high level you put him in a slot you're gonna put him outside he's gonna find a way. I'm going with the volunteer smith. I mean it's reminiscent of marvin harrison with a little bit more flare a little bit more flash. Devante smith's to answer i. Oh you're gonna say drunkenness and marvin hagler because pound for pound. He might be the best. But i don't know if he's going to be the best overall. I'm gonna go with easy answer kyle. I think it's gonna be a star. Says the greatest idea never. I'll go with the giants super strong super fast three. I'll go kyle pits. Wilde's going with a running back and i know running back so the pleated pants of the nfl draft totally out of style but prime for a comeback. Now as you. Here's everybody's talking about jones everybody's talking about jaylen wattle. Everyone's talking about the monty smith. What about our old friend nausea heresies. Hello i was the engineer. This offense watch this play. Get out of here number eight and a little bonus right over you job ninety two running backs undervalued watch nausea along a big position. Right defense now. Mike parsons dynamic linebacker. Likely to be one of the first defensive players off the board tonight but brandon make the call who will ultimately be the biggest steal of the draft. Ooh i mean. I've been saying i've been saying this. Exact thing since december or or maybe early january kelly lond. Do you not hear me up. Leaving consistent be still the dread and he will move up our sneak into the first round. And i wanted to the pittsburgh steelers going to take them. The pittsburgh steelers. Muslims still at address. He'll sit this year. Play next to your neighbors. Say wow. isn't this kid. Come from journal on first things first and listen so i is not quite as long as brandon's been on kellen mind. I've been promoting this name. Gregory russo. think guy is six seven. He's played one full year of college football in the ear. Only chase young more sacks. He opted out last year. He's basically glean new to the position and dominated it. There is a lot of giovan curse similarities. Then that he didn't play the position long time physically. He's a marvel hang. He's going to be a laser brown brick which put him on a good team and be able to make an instant impact. So i say gregory good answer okay. I'm gonna go with another running back. Vaunting williams north carolina. Running back. And i know a lot of drafts a scout crush awhile tate. You know what i do. I crush tape singular. 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We can't wait to have you talking about the draft tonight on the nfl network and things will get interesting with pick number. Three adam schefter reporting the niners have come to a consensus remember. They moved up from twelve to three last month. Likely targeting one of the top quarterbacks fox bet sportsbook has mack jones as the favourite to go to sandra followed by trae lands and then justin fields brand marshall but will the forty niners ultimately select at number three. Because your jets pretty much set scenes. Zack wilson at number two. But number three. What do you think they're gonna do is it is it is it. Is it for sure jenna. The jets are going with zach. Is it sure yes yes. That's for sure much representing the organization. Today i feel like you know. Geez listen look those guys get paid to recruit to scout do all that stuff some believing whoever they go with tonight. Looks like zack wilson. So i can see. They're all year. We've been talking about two guys. We've been talking about justin feels. You've been talking about trevor lawrence zack. Wilson also came onto the scene in a big way the last couple of months definitely after his pro day. Say him spin it the way he spun it trae lance a guy right obviously mack jones. The big five. And there's a couple more guys deeper in the draft but the i just can't see them going with mac jones. I believe in this guy. I think he's going to have a an amazing career if he gets in the right situation. I don't know why people are knocking him. Because he was surrounded by talent on the field. He was surrounded by phenomenal talent. When you talk about the coaching staff like. Isn't that what you want for. All of your players is for them to have the pieces and the people around him to get the job done. So when i look at coach. Shanahan's offense cow shanahan trae lance. Justin feels pop out. But it seems like just feels the slide so trey lances the guy like mack jones. Great but that office we're talking about keeper left keeper right. What is that you stretch. They like to run eight. They like to run nine hold plays and then they pull it. And the quarterback gets outside the pocket. This do has the skill set to not only run office that you have now taken to a whole 'nother level. There's do stay in a parking in throw. he can process. That's one of the things that jumps out when you sit down with. This kid is his ability to pick up off right away. You don't have to talk about his offense and what he's used to talk about football period. This dude loves football. He knows football. And then to take that with the ability to throw the ball to billy to run the billy to get up after a big hit. This do fits the shanahan offense. Well i was in it for four years. And then i came back to it a couple of years later with jay cutler and chicago. We brought in jeremy bates who was offensive coordinator led us to be the number two offense in the national football league. I just see trae lands fitting this offense perfectly nick. I believe that's the guy are going to go with. So i think that's the guy they should go with. I think there. I think there's a great argument to be made that there is a model out there that shows you exactly what the niners should do. Because the chiefs did five years ago. The chiefs were twelve and four with a by and the fed. They lost in the playoffs because they used to always lose in the playoffs and the very next year. They traded their first round. Pick plus a one and three for a super high upside very raw quarterback and they said we are not trading our starter alex smith we are keeping him and this guy is going to sit on the bench and learn. And we're going to try to compete for championship. And by the way they won the division again made the playoffs again. They of course lost early again. And then then they traded alex smith then mahomes took over so i think that is the right path for the niners draft. Trae lance hold onto jimmy for one more year unless unless trade just totally wiles you in the off season and try to compete this season and then move forward with trae lands avenue trade jimmy a year from now. But that's what i think. They should do wilds in researching the draft something. I shouldn't say to me became evident to me. Every year lynch and shannon and been together the media has known. They're picking they do a terrible job keeping it a secret. I went back and looked their first draft together. Wow everyone said the niners are taking solomon thomas. They ended up trading back. Pick still got solomon thomas the second draft together. The entire book was guys. It's obviously going to be the tackle mcglinchey mcglinchey. Whatever the best. What to be fair. Didn't say mcglinchey said the best tackle. Whatever the best tackle on their board is. That's where they're going. They ended up taking mcglinchey. The next draft was pretty obvious. It was nikki bosa but it was. Everyone knew there was like the. This year's draft picks were in. It was cuyler. Bosa picks were in and last year after. They traded away buckner. Everyone said they're going to take their number. One d. tackle kimball so the moment they made this trade. The folks that know things said mack. Jones so i think that's what they're going to do and i think john lynch showed his and a bit when he was like. Hey kyle's pick guys pick trust kyle to which to me said. There's maybe a little divergence of opinion. So i agree with brandon as far as why they should take trae lands but the niners haven't historically been great poker players and i think they showed their hand. I think they're taking mack jones. Nick i wanna stay here because i ask you a question and they kicked this around on good morning. Football which audience is a good show too. Dvr you can watch us live and then dvr good morning to watch and they were carrying around the idea that comparing an item my own sauce to it. Compare when you look at jones you compare them to to trae lance. Compare them to zack. Wilson. there's not a huge gap you know. People can have differences opinions. But when you're making this picnic. Should you actually be comparing it to other quarterbacks in the nfc west when you're like Ken this guy compete with cuyler. Can this guy compete with. Russ because that's really going against you. Just did it with the patriots. Like two and josh allen. Zack wilson like all right. Yeah jimmy june fits right in. But when you compare when you put when you put mac jones again schuyler or you put mac jones against russ. I think the pick looks much less safe. And when you look at it through that lens then i think the pick is trey lance. Well i it would be a great sleight of hand by the niners. If that's the case and all be honest brandon. I hope i'm wrong. Because i think it will be very fascinating if they don't take matt jones to see how far he slides. We've talked about this. Justin field slide but the only team that has been directly associated in love with max drones. Allegedly is the niners so if they pass on him. How far down the board does he go. And that's the that's the other reason brandon. Why mack jones. Even though i think he will be the picnic. We'll be gutsy. Pick because all the other quarterbacks if you were do like a compilation of all the big boards whether it's daniel jeremiah. Joel klatt whomever the guy who is consistently the most likely to be outside of the top. Fifteen players in the draft is mack jones and so it would be general raging by most people's standards. Exactly right john. I agree with all that right wrong is signaling seems to have three exactly that which is why in the beginning brandon. I thought it was a smokescreen. At this point. Eventually the smoke becomes real enough. It's not smokescreen to fire. And i and so i think. I think that the smoke is signal of here. It's hard. it's hard to see that happening know. I believe in mack jones. He's going to be successful in the right situation. Wanna knock them for the wrong reasons. He had so much talent around him. When i look at that offense and being in that offense co shanahan's offense you need a guy who has a big arm mack. jones. He can throw a deep. He's accurate but we're talking about big arms think about kyle shanahan okay When he was in in in houston and what. What did you see. Andre johnson during that was mr fifteen hundred. Does that mean he was having fifteen hundred yards a year. He was averaging eighteen yards kit. They were running big overalls. They run a big post. Think about when he got to atlanta. You have julio jones. And you had rodney white. I remember watching. What was it sunday night. Football or whatever. It was a plan against the seattle seahawks. And they were bombs bombs away and then that's best for to the super bowl and the game is on the line. What play today go to. They ran oppose ahead. He may your sanders out there. They ran a poll. Seven drop and it was off slightly and you see john lynch and on the sideline and the suit just lifestyle. We were so close to winning it. They need a guy that can move and they need a guy that has a big arm now. Seventy percent of their offense west coast office. We're throwing slants. They're throwing little option routes but when you get that run game going now everything opens up and that is what we saw baker mayfield do last year. He was willing to in. You know we're talking about you know. First second third down third manageable thirty short but when when at run game was going when we see odell beckham junior. Here we go. And that's what trae lands presents. And that's what he brings to the forty niners. So that's why. I believe that's going to be the right. Pick for them tonight. I will find out. Nfl draft set for eight pm. Eastern night all right. Let's take a turn talk some nba metals. The sons one again. Last night. chris. Paul was great again last night. Twenty eight and ten but see jesse. Miss just missing out on a medal from nick. Nick who didn't make your cody stand. Today i desperately wanted to include paul. He was spectacular also. Great the handshake line when he snubbed. Paul george unfortunately three people were better jaylen brown jaylen brown two nights ago at thirty nine didn't make the medal stand because they lost the game tonight and thirty eight technically actually thirty five because he we saw that i i like. He accidentally bank in a three from the top of the key. Those three points don't count but aside from that. He was spectacular. Thirty eight points bronze-medal for jaylen brown tatum estimated thirty five russ russell westbrook had the most rebounds and most assists of any player in the entire nba. Last night played. The lakers will get the lakers in terrible performance by them ruskin to silver medal. Averaging and triple double once again for the red nicole a yokich thirty two points. But most importantly they can game saving hack of zion williamson but no call so all good. You'll could save the game with the defensive play probably locks up the mvp. Look at this in zion. Blame as wildwood. Say game after terrible turnovers. Thirty has the nuggets. Getting important win running back. he didn't want it back. And what you'll mind. Goodness nicola yoga ges doughy forearm hitting zion williamson and his head. That what you would have seen him when he gets a gold medal. Lot of slander today for the guys. To kinda crushed. Everyone who got medals go ahead. So would only ted wild tune just missed the cut. Don't watch anyone all and goodwill with a new defensive play here. Gets a travel called on steph curry. Even though he jumped over him almost like a defensive. Vince carter move right here. Great job losing by forty four but thanks to burn and goodwin's great fly that could've lost by forty six so great genre. That wreck should be fun. That wraps should get in trouble. Oh colluded to it. Bad loss for the lakers. Last night is now time for them to start laying down for nick smart good marine. I got so many questions next first things first we laid out. That's what i'm talking about nick. First things first back talking lakers now with our guy. Chris broussard's so lakers lost again last night. And they fell to russ in the wizards there. Now one in three with. Anthony davis back in the lineup sitting in fifth place out west. It's not great. Eighty says this is the time to get desperate. Take a listen desperate situation twelve patrol and so we have to start playing with a sense of desperation even though the art in a playoffs right now. But we're not that far from being in in playoff game playing games so we've got to pay off a look at this. Look where the lakers are. Look where that plant zone is. They are awfully close. So chris broussard. What do you make of saying the lakers have to quote. Start playing with a sense of desperation. One problem with what he said. Ad should've exchange the were we for. I ate these the one. That's not balling. They were seven and six and a thirteen games before a d. returned including victory over utah. They're one in three since eighty s. Been back his numbers. Sixteen points thirty nine percent shooting nineteen percent from three and the most damming stat five rebounds a game since he's been back now. Some of those numbers may be a bit skewed because his first game against dallas didn't play as much and didn't have good numbers but he hasn't been very good over these past three games. It's as simple as that in the four games. He's been back of the of the ninety seven players in the nba. Who have played one hundred or more minutes in those four games. Ad is fifth worst in the league. In plus minus. He's minus thirty seven. He's not getting it done. It's is simple as that and he looks some of it. He's adjusting the blair with andre drummond. You know and eighty has been on the perimeter. Way too much. I get that. That's a part of his game. But he ain't kevin durant he's not even joel embiid on the permanent okay. He needs to have a mix of guinea some stuff in the lane looking last night. Don't be fooled by the twenty. Six points he really didn't play very well but he had a good run in the fourth quarter. Have fourteen points and guess what. He was playing center while andre drummond was on the bitch. So that's something the lakers are gonna have to look at how much they can play. Eight eighty and drumming together. That's going to be interesting but the fact that matters this eighty was not very good or he wasn't a superstar playing like one before he got injured and since he's been back he hasn't even look like a star they cannot win it if s subpar. He's gotta bring desperation urgency sometimes as a player you know. We don't face reality. Like i talked about this last week as far as the nets. And that what they were dealing with like you. Just move onto the next. The next thing you know guy goes down next man up mentality. We hear that football a lot but we get blind sometimes reality. Sometimes they're just not a good team and the reality is the lakers aren't a good team. Now lebron james comes back and he's healthy and he gets back to where he was there right where they need to be with. Ad playing better. We meet the ad from the bubble. That's what this team needs as far as desperation no is. You don't need to be desperate. You just need to play better. He lebron james. This is a really good team. Really good defensively. They have shooters. You have lebron james. Who is the best player on the planet. Not the most dominant player on the planet anymore. But he's the best player on the planet. So when you think about a d a d. I don't know what the heck is going on with him but he needs to get tougher. He needs to attack and take over even last night. Nick you know you get hit in the i you know. He falls down these land near and it seemed like they use about the outer stretchers. Like come on man. Let's go. let's get going to hate that brandon ronnie bounds of the dame's in the ad. I know right. So i'm listening to brandon and brandon's been on that is not ascended the level he needed to all years to its credit and then got hurt and now he's backing and he's worse than he was before and so that's been a topic brandon's all year and i'm listening resort resort. Let me let me. Just ask the question if you take lebron. Anthony davis off the lakers roster. Do i'm not trying to put you on the spot. But do they even top fifty player like. Who's the next best player on the team whose music casey probably shrewd her. The best deals below all star. Yeah he's not okay so they got one they got one top fifty guy but they don't have another all they wouldn't have an all star right so then you put on the team and we're saying is playing this season statistically the worst year of his career since his rookie season man. Oh man it sure sounds to me like either. One of two things are true. Either the lakers are totally screwed. Or if this ragtag group of guys can be brought together just by thirty six year old man and his eighteenth season. They somehow show up in the finals. And god forbid in those finals. They beat the unbeatable supernova. That is the brooklyn nets. We're really really going to have to start evaluating how we as a collective do talk about the guy who's not playing right now with brian james because wild. I don't know if you're hearing what i'm hearing. But what i'm hearing now fit the lakers. Aren't that good. What do you mean. stop it what i hearing is. The lakers are not that good in the who is supposed to be. What no one of. Them's there say this and they're not very good. Okay definitely missing. Wien exists donovan rudy. This davis is there. Though you just said he's the guy that needs to be better so i'm just saying that it would appear wild that one two things are true. Either the lakers are abject lee screwed or they are still the western conference favorites because even in year eighteen thirty six year old. Lebron's going to come in and save the day we can see where everyone's money's at. I think know where minds at wiles their screw. I of course. And i'm agreeing with you and it pains me to the deepest parts of my heart because brandon. You know how you said before you did press conferences. You're the pr person would pull you aside. It'd be like. Hey the probably ask you this right and i think that's what happened in this post game because they hey they're probably gonna ask how he plays. What are you gonna say like well. I'm gonna say we'll be totally when lebron back. No don't say that because they feel seriously go out and play with more desperation like okay. I'll go with that one. Give me a break. Lebron's back everything will be. It's silly to even talk about it. Guess wipe on the set of top gun. Two when tom cruise gets the corn. Goodman can't do the scenes at goose to carry the entire thing step up man. this movie doesn't work with groups. Like goose your goose man. Wait until tom. Cruise at the whole thing. Lurk having bending energy talking about anthony davis to play readings. one can't say it. I don't know those are. Lebron is i agree with. I don't know what his best most dominant diversion. I don't get all that but lebron through the best player in the world until otherwise notified. All right let's see what lebron kaz like. last time. He came back from injury. It didn't go. Well and lebron was talking about playoff mode and they went eight and thirteen in those twenty one games. He came back after the groin injury. So live running is to be right. Lebron's got to be comes back right in his then h. He's got to be his best. Brian j i don't drop his that obama's with you. Nick and brandon said that without lebron. They were seven and sixty lebron in thirteen games. Look brawn james. Lebron james needs to come back not only healthy but we need to see the best version of lebron james ever. Ad playing this way. So that's why they don't have a. Wow that's right. no. I need this thing i really. I really think it's either one of these. Two things either. The lakers are totally screwed. Or your lebron at the end of the year. Even broussard's going to say has passed jordan. 'cause how how are you going to carry this rupel bums like that's what i heard. It's what their boat. I you were bad team. Little strange thing about. Who's the top fifty players. I did the lakers last. Stop worrying about when your ears. Thank you so much. We gotta get back to. Tonight's show as the best slick busy draft night tonight for. Bill checks rumors out of foxborough yesterday. Two big ones the first patriots in jimmy garoppolo or working on a new deal that could facilitate a trade forty niners. Wild has been banging the drum or that. Yes then. There's also this little doozy that. The patriots have reportedly had talked with the falcons about the fourth pick. What there is unjust. Enfield's wild spat scott out your photoshop team harder work. I'm sure they can't make fast enough. We we got former all pro. Brian westbrook joining us right. Now break it all down bride could morning tell me. What's a better option for these patriots. Trading for jimmy g. or drafting justin fields the morning. Jinnah in for me. I'm always going to go with the upside. And i think justin fields has much higher upside than jimmy. Geez justin feels. I think about his accuracy. I think about his arm strength and his ability to limit his turnovers. And that's exactly the type of quarterback that the patriots need you know one thing i just can't i couldn't get over if i'm the patriots that cow. Shane had went to the super bowl. Jimmy g. just a couple of years ago and now he's willing to get rid of him to bring in unproven rookie and say that he's going to be our guy to me that that would be a big question. Mark as far as jimmy jimmy. Jesus we're outside the numbers. The second thing is is the relationship with cam video here. We can play that real quick. Justin feels already has a relationship for camp. This goes back to their seven. Seven came about three years ago. Well look the coaches fast clip The coaches listen. Man kam nuhere. Hey best player in high school football. I hit you were high school plan. You watching this. You know it's the truth if you dog on a recruiter for anything this the best thing in the recruitment can get your several former five star himself on camera. I approve this message right so you can see that there is a relationship there already with camp cameras this young people that maybe a little bit different but cameras as mature ready to help a young guy commits elite and last but not. Least you got to remember the quarterbacks that jimmy g. or justin fields is going to have to face in your own division. You have josh allen. Zack wilson to a conference. You gotta face holmes and watson as well to me. If i'm gonna face that list of quarterbacks. I want to go into the game but the guy with a much higher potential justin field. Yeah i agree with you as justin feels. I just don't know who. Jimmy garoppolo is right like plan in new england or was a couple games where it was a two two two and a half games. He played he played lights out. He held it down until tom brady came back. Obviously jacoby percent came in and he played a game or two in he also held her down as well. And then you go to the forty niners you go in late. You win six in a row. Then you lead your team to the super bowl. That year was weird because even when he was healthy. Remember we were talking about. Why is he only only letting them throw it. Twelve times fifteen times nineteen times like those are some interesting numbers. You're talking about a guy who was highly regarded highly sought after and and you're not letting them do so. There's a lot of question marks around jimmy g. outside of his health history and his injury history. So justin fields is the guy just a few things. We need to look at nick. And we're talking about the quarterback. Can he process like you. That's the number one thing. I don't care how well you throw the ball. How big you are how fast you are if you can go out there. And say fifty. Two's the mike. This is a potential threat. Set the protection. Make sure your receivers plus two on his split check here and then before to snap you say okay. Here's where i'm going to smile. Prese re dropback and within a split second knowing that okay. My priests was right. So i'm going here. I'm working with high to low or was wrong now going here. If you can't do that you can't play in the national football league. This is not college football. Where is back. They re one side of the field. Oh it's quarters. I'm just going to throw it right to this guy that the is telling you where to go. You gotta have leadership he has that you have you have to have the arm and you also have to have the work ethic and just feels check all those boxes so i agree with all of that and and i also would in a vacuum rather have just some builds and jimmy garoppolo. It's not even close but this is really a question of cost. So i jimmy. Garoppolo right now would cost the patriots of probably their second round pick. Justin field would cost the patriots the fifteenth pick plus whatever else they have to trade up to move up to get him because i do not believe he's going to slide all the way to fifteen now. I can wild. You're probably going to laugh at me. Here i feel like i can debunk. The the patriots talked about trading up to number four report just with logic. Let me tell you how that win. The badri i believe have called carolina and figured out exactly what it would cost to move up to eight and bella jet because he's smart. He's like all right. If that's what it's gonna cost moved eight somebody call atlanta and just see if they're dopes and see if we can give them exactly that for four okay. They said no art. That's fine we. We know what it is. Because they're not going to outlay the draft capital if it cost to additional first round picks to go from twelve to three then it would cost probably two additional first round picks to go from fifteen to four. I don't see them doing that. But as soon as justin fields if he is slides past detroit then. I do think it's a real question and as a patriots fan i ask you. Would you rather have just didn't feel or would you rather have jimmy garoppolo and would you ever player. You're gonna pick at fifteen sir tan the corner or if you like the third best wide receiver whomever it would be. You don't know who's going to be there which to you would be a better value proposition for your team. I would go fields. if that's what we're talking about. Okay i would take the latter. I would take jimmy g. and whoever we keep it fifteen. And here's why. And i think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the emotional energy of bill. Belichick the kraft family and patriots fans. Around god's green earth and here's what it is. We had a losing season. We don't lose. We need to fix it immediately and the perfect immediate fix is jimmy g. Who knows the system. It can come in and win games and i know everyone on the panel is always level headed and has an absolute perfect relationship with their spouse. But here's this story. I would tell if you had a bad whole year with your spouse where you went seven and nine with your spouse and he said honey you know what i fixed it and she said how i got us. Ten thousand dollars worth of google stock. Oh that's good the it's a great investment. It's going to lay off task like in the future. The ceiling is so high. We're going to be set in five years. Who knows where it will be like. Oh that's great or you know what you do. You go on vacation. You take a great trip to the commas. That's what fixes it. That's where the patriots are right now. We need to fix it immediately. I don't care about google stock in ten years. That's what just feels. We need right now. And that's jimmy g. Jemma kevin think this is what you gotta remember. The patriots were seven and nine last year camp battle covert. A bunch of players opted out because of the kobe. There have a much better defense next year if they can get some upside from from justice fields to me. I don't think this is a terrible football team. And of course Josh wilson Josh allen had one of the years of his career. I mean i think this team's lack closer than a lot of people think to me. You go for the upside. Most physically talented quarterback ever just josh glasses mornings brian. Speaking of the forty niners what they are going to do up there at number three. Have they locked in on a decision yet or break that down next i i first first stories to start your morning. Sponsored by ram trucks built to serve. Guys we made it. We're finally here 2021. Nfl draft all set board tonight eight pm eastern on nfl network storylines aplenty going into this. When we got five quarterbacks expected to go early you know. The jackson jets appear said at one and two. But after that. That's where it's gonna be fun. That's where we can't wait to watch it all unfold friend. Let me start with you and we'll keep right here. Which team do you think. Spacing the most pressure tonight in round one off a team that we've been talking about for the past month and a half and that's the san francisco forty niners or maybe just a month when they did what they did they move up to three the pressures on them because they have a really good team if you go back to last year. They lost most of their games within three or four point. And that's what. Jimmy banged up and bringing in nick molins and you know You know the defense guys being banged up. This is a really good team. It's well costa stability in the ownership so cow shanahan has to make the right decision. We keep talking about mack jones. I think mack jones is going to be fine. But if you go with mac josie. He doesn't perform well. They're going to crush you if you pass up on justin fields. And then he goes to new england or somewhere somewhere else and he performs amazing. Then you're going to crush you when your guys not so. He has to get this right. Because this is a franchise altering moment for them and you also gotta look at the landscape of that division to seattle seahawks. They didn't get worse. I don't know if they got better. And how much better to get. But they didn't get they didn't get worse. Arizona cardinals gap better. The rams got better so you need to stay right there in the pack because you could easily go from a team that could win is the visit to a team that is struggling mightily and now everything is blown up by the end of this year or in two years so it got to. You got to look at the san francisco san francisco forty niners. Excuse me when you talk about. Who has the most pressure. Okay i would like to stay here with my friend brandon marshall and brandon. You like to plan ahead. You plan your career out. You talked about when you were playing. He's got on the showtime show to sort of start planning your media career and now you were talking about just recently or at house of athle- and you have plans to grow maybe domestically maybe internationally and get some funds. I think you'd being the planner that you are planned a take down that road and the road is i told you so the take is i told you so i told you we should've gotten zirk walls and i knew it. I never liked zack. wilson guys. I told you. I was on the table justin field and what else did i say i said lance reminded men when i met my wife. I knew it at all. You know what is is a sneaking won a sneaky one that i think you've also planned for a this is a this is a little one if he starts playing. Well i told you. We should've never traded. Sam darnold nuit so brandon. I think the jets are under the most. Because you've got a lot of. I told you so waiting to pop up and i know you're trying to convince yourself that you love zack. Wilson but deep down. We know that you don't buddy. Listen planning it's. It's betting its gambling right. Nick knows this. Like i love rowing crafts and i always bet that the dice no four but also bet the dice will for some hedging. My bet that's what it is just just bit. That's all that's all it is nick. I adore you. But you. And i need the off the air have some craps blackjack and poker lessons. 'cause you got too much money and too many rich frames to be letting him take joe. You're betting against yourselves in these. Listen that's their y'all drought. I got it. I got it. We do that off the air so a couple of things. There is a massive pressure on the niners for one reason brandon mention. If they threw this up they can't fix it because they don't got picnics. Your pick the year after that so they are fully committed to this. The jets on the other hand got plenty of picks and plenty of experience screwing things up. It's like darnold the wrong guy. But with sanchez's those guys before and so into the zacks. The wrong guy bark manager used to this like i don't know how much pressure there is on the jets. The jets are a bad student expecting a report card. There's not pressure there's just expectation of. It's going to be mad. I'm used to it at this point. So i think there's pressure on the student who for their entire academic career got straight as and then you know maybe it was the pandemic. Maybe it was. They were hanging out with the wrong crowd. Maybe it was their best friend left the school but all of a sudden they were a and student for one year and that's the patriots the patriots everything rolling. They were the envy of the entire league. And then all of a sudden you remove one domino and the whole thing fell down and they were sub five hundred. They missed the playoffs. They lose the division to the bills. I got to listen to that now. The josh allen most talented quarterback in the history of quarterbacks dogs a disaster for everyone involved and the patriots have pressure as well brandon because the guy the badri pressures wells. Because they don't have like they have so many options thing go jimmy johnson metternich. They can stay in pat with cam. Why does it not matter. It does matter nick. It's all about the jets tonight. J. e. t. s. It doesn't matter. We are about three of the jets. That are jek. Three of the jess will be changed tonight. The nfl draft tonight at eight pm on nfl network. So many dreams are gonna come to reality tonight. That's what's happening tonight. it matters. You're all didn't know where all this negative energy please. Where's where's kyri. I needs to go to new jersey. One form part and say everything saves the homebuilding building say old building. They're gonna make the right decision. I saved a lot of questions. Won't be answered tonight brandon. Which you all the best i say. Keep that on all day. It'll smell great by tonight. Fun watching the draft undisputed starts right now.

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 708: Lamar Jackson's Ceiling

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 708: Lamar Jackson's Ceiling

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the golden state media. Concept's football podcast. Latest news on the field be at college. Football big ten. Sec big twelve pac. Twelve acc to the nfl with got you covered. Listen to golden state media concepts football. Podcast ooh Thank you into the gmc. Football podcast by the mc podcast network. I'm rose kendrick. Hello everybody hope you're having a day hopi your nerves or okay hope. Hearing is okay. I hope everybody is okay. We're not gonna talk politics in this podcast. There has been far too much politics. Talk just throughout this year So i'm gonna just stay away from it. We're gonna talk football today. I wanna talk about some of the younger quarterbacks. In the nfl two quarterbacks that concern me moving forward with how they have played this season We're gonna get into thursday night. Football look ahead to the packers in the forty niners and then my final topic of the day. We're going to do my expectations versus reality for the entire nfl. I'm going to look at every single division kind of look at what. Their expectations were heading into the season. At least from my vantage point and then how the teams have actually panned out thus far now that we are about halfway through the season anyways so to had his debut against the rams and i was very excited for it. We've been waiting. We've been clamoring. We've been clamoring for this sense. Joe burrow had his first start and we saw how good he looked and and obviously his second start and then his fourth star and then we saw justin herbert and we've seen him starting for the charges. He's outstanding and boroughs looked outstanding and so the clock was ticking on. When do we get to see too in the dolphins. This season have actually been very very surprising. They have a. I think their defense is number one in scoring. It's like tied for second or third on third down percentage. I mean this team is good. Brian flora's is one of the bill. Check disciples that work. He can legitimately coach and the dolphins are very very well. Coached team and a lot of people were upset that they bench fitzpatrick because the the they have a real chance and maybe make the playoffs as an extra playoff spot and the patriots aren't good and the jets are a disaster and their only competition is the bills and the bills will probably win the division but josh allen every single week is looking worse and worse. They almost lost that game to new england. If it wasn't for the fumble by cam newton. I think cam newton to be able to drive down the field and score a touchdown. The bills. defense still isn't good. Josh allen i four weeks the season was outstanding. These last weather's now four four four five weeks. He has not looked the same. The bills team has the same. It's not the same dominance. We saw them have earlier in the season. So i don't know but a lot of people through the dolphins and they said hey. This could be the dolphins chance to make a playoff run. This could be the the season they legitimately could win this division with patrick but what i said is that it's not about this. Season is about to so to gets the start against the rams and he looked not impressive at all. He completed fifty four percent of his passes. For ninety three yards a touchdown no picks he didn't have a fumble fumble did get recovered by the rams. He did not look good. This game was about the dolphins as a whole and really just kind of on the travel schedule of the rams. I mean the rams have traveled the most. What what to this point at least to that game. The rams had travel the most in the nfl again. You're going all the way over to the east coast and it was just. It was a game right for the pickings. It was a game right for the rams to have an off day. Jared goff had a very very off day. Turn the ball over. Every which way fumbles interceptions. It didn't matter it was a whole team game. The dolphins scored on offense defense special teams to the need to do much. But even with that being said i am very very concerned with what i saw because joe burrow his first game against the a healthier chargers team and didn't necessarily have impressive numbers. But the thing was team had a chance to win in the fourth quarter. He moved the ball all day long. He consistently put his team in field goal Field goal range. He showed mobility ran for a touchdown he showed he had a control over the offense and that he can actually move the ball against a really really good chargers defense to didn't do any of that he didn't move the ball. He wasn't putting his team in field goal range. He wasn't doing anything of that. His most impressive throw was the touchdown throw. And even then i think the touchdown throw was kinda kinda lucky. He threw a medicine ball to was receiver. It was an awkward catch but parker's great and he was able to make it work or was it was it. Parker was it. Williams made a touchdown grab. I don't remember is what that throw. I just looked at it. And i said wow That was a hell of a catch. And i i guess to put it in one of the only places the receiver could grab it but the defender had relatively good chance together themselves and i guess that's another thing that kind of harp on is to accuracy. I didn't see and whether it was because he's just a raw rookie in its nerves. His first nfl star. Whether it's because it's the rams defense in the rams defense has been better than people thought it would be heading into the season that whole expectations versus reality thing. I don't know. But i do know this the. Nfl used to give young quarterbacks a few years to figure it out but those days appear to be over with. You need to get it. You need to show flashes as a rookie in your second year. You need to have a pop and then the third year you need to realistically be. You need to be the second or the first best quarterback in your vision or the team is kinda over you and they're already planning on moving off of you. That's just kind of the way the league seems to be headed. And when i watched to against the rams i didn't see a single play where i said. Oh wow oh that's okay. So that's what we're talking about. So that that it factor the factor was not there. Okay it just wasn't it. Let's be honest. it wasn't there. Joe burrow you saw he had it in his first. Nfl start what he did to a good chargers defense that pass rush that secondary him being able to consistently move the football getting hit repeatedly and knocked down to the ground. He looked like he had it. Justin herber when out against the chiefs with like a five minute. Notice any through three hundred yards and looked incredible. He looked like he had it. Murray let's like he had. When had it had it. Russell had all these other quarterbacks. Come into the nfl and they look like they have it. I didn't see any of the it into and i'm not going to write off to. I'm not going to say is going to be a bus because even though the league is moving in this direction where these younger quarterbacks we are only going to give them now. Basically what two and a half years to look like one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl or we're kind of done with them while the nfl is moving in that direction. I still don't believe it. I don't believe that is the best way to do things while i understand that. The league is becoming more offensive and understand their incorporating more college schemes against there are still these teams like the jets. There are these teams that do not have good coordinators. They don't have good head coaches. They don't have good pieces around these players. And so sam. Darnold who many quarterbacks in the nfl think is one of the most talented and one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl people think sam donaldson bust. Because you look at the jets. You see how terrible they are. You see how bad his numbers are. But then then you need to. Just look at it dude. Who's the head coach. Who is the offensive coordinator. What is he surrounded by jerry. I will always go back to jared goff with the rams his rookie year. Jeff fisher almost ruined. Jared goff's career because god has rookie year looked like he looked like a high school quarterback. He didn't even look at college quarterback. He looked so overwhelmed. It just it was a mess. And now you see what jared goff isn't yes. He's coming off of a very very bad game against the dolphins. I get that. But what we what we now know about jared goff with mcveigh. I read deep throws jared. Goff's one of the best in the nfl as soon as you do. Ask him to move off of his. I really start to struggle. He can throw it running left or right outside of the pocket. He's one of the best quarterbacks. Nfl that you find that he does have a system that works for him. I am sure to our has a system that works for him but his comp coming into the nfl all the people tried to say. It was russell wilson because their votes smaller. But that's not his calm because russell wilson is one of the best athletes in the nfl. He came in with extreme ability to doesn't have that the only guy in the nfl that really resembles to from a stature in the lettuces and point of view is maybe drew brees. He's the only guy who resembles him at all. 'cause they're both about the same height and they both have the same amount of mobility drew. Brees is one of the most accurate passes in nfl. He's one of the best quarterbacks in general and nfl history. So if you're going to tell me that too can be that okay one. I guess he's going to work and this we'll just wait. Wait figure it out. The dolphins offensive line isn't great. We'll just wait. See how things develop over time. But here's what the dolphins need to look at. They're going to give two of the rest of the season to start in either fail or succeed. The texans are bad. The dolphins have the texans pick if that pick is in the top ten top five. I'd be shocked if it was in the top five. But i was wrong on the texans this year. If it's in the top five and they have a realistic shot to draft a guy like justin field trey lance trevor lawrence gone but if they have a chance to drop one of those guys you're gonna tell me they won't take that shot that they won't just immediately cave in say all right. We made a mistake. Washington did dwayne haskins arizona. Did josh rosen. You're gonna tell me they won't just cave in say wrong guy onto the next. I think there's a real possibility they do it. Even though to a was the number five overall pick if he's not the guy he's not the guy and it seems like these franchises that this point they just aren't about developing these players long term. They want you to hit hit early and then they can work on refining you in getting you more experience in helping you then but if you show your if you don't show you have it if you don't show that five minutes before a game starts you're sitting there thinking you're going to be the backup that five minutes before it starts. You're told you're going to be the starter and you can't go out there and your first start in. Throw three hundred yards. And throw of throw a touchdown rushing touchdown at everything. If you can't show you can do that. The league's canada with you. And you can definitely blame guys. Like justin herbert or joe burrow or mahomes or lamar and go back even further. You can look at russell. Wilson or big ben aaron rodgers. These guys come out in their first season starting in they look outstanding and their teams. Have instant success. If you can't do that anymore the league just kinda done with you. So i'm gonna wait and see what's going on with two. I will give him to three more games. And if he continues to look the same there is real There's going to be a real concern. There will be a real concern. He can't fall back on the ability he has to rely all on his arm and his mental. And i'm not saying he can't do it but the only guy to ever do it really is drew brees. That's not a not a lot of wiggle room. So speaking of borough though borough is now the highest grade quarterback in his division by pro football focus now. Some people might want to say well. It goes bakers there in baker's not very good and lamar jackson. He he's not really. He's not that great either. I mean you look at him. He's not really a quarterback. He's more he's more of a a runner than the thrower and big is coming off of injured the excuses. Let's not pretend we don't see what we see. I said maybe to a podcast or two ago there is a real chance that next season joe burrow is the best is the best pure passer in his division. I think he's already better the lamar. I think he's already better than baker. Mayfield the only question would be. What about big ben. What happens with big ben. Well after this past week joe burrow is now the highest grade quarterback in his division. Now i'm sure he invented gonna do get out for and i'm sure we'll mara at some point in time. We'll probably attempt to reenter this conversation. But joe burrow right now is that he is the guy in the bengals have found their guy what he did the tennessee first off. I think it's an indictment on tennessee's defense. Now they did a trade for desmond king. And i think it's going to be great for their secondary but their pass rush stills in good even when cloudy even with beasley who is more of an average pass rusher if anything maybe even a bit below average defensive line is nothing special. But they didn't get a hit on borough. They touched a few times but they didn't get hit. He didn't get sacked and the bengals were doing it with four backup offensive lineman. That isn't indictment against the tennessee. Defense so i don't know i give the credit to it's like situations like that i'm like okay. Every single defense has been able to get the borough multiple times a game. He's the most hit sacked quarterback next to carson wentz for tennessee to not be able to get him once is horrible. You can't say that's all burrow because every other defense has been able to get to them. it's only tennessee. that hasn't been able to. Which is why. I said i don't think tennessee is a legitimate superbowl threat. Defense just isn't good enough a but more to the point with borough. He's been outstanding this season. I think it's going to be between him. And just and herbert to win offensive rookie of the year. And i think if anyone would win it. I think it would be joe burrow to simply because of the team. He is on people. They still look at cincinnati. They're like oh what does he really working with. Offensive line wide receiver. Wise all that stuff. I mean all her. Herbert has his weapons. He has henry and he has the running backs and he has receivers. I think that they will dock him for that and there is a real possibility. Here that the bengals end the finishing the season with a better record than the charges because the chargers are just a mess. They can't finish games. Anthony lynn. I think is going to be fired. The because of this culture he's kind of cultivated with the team. I think he can coach. I really do but all this team does is lose close games. They go conservative. Herbert is a rookie. He's gotta throw some interceptions and they threw the game away against denver when they had every chance to win. I saw a probability meter on the chargers winning that game. They were favored to win that game. Throughout the entire thing and it also in the fourth quarter it just collapsed it was it was horrid to watch. I think there's a real chance anthony. Lynn gets fired. But what borough cincinnati. You guys got to do everything you can to protect them. You need to do everything you can to surround him this next season. We don't know what ben is gonna be like. We don't know bigger still going to be there. And lamar jackson isn't getting any better as a passer. You guys are going to have the best pure quarterback in your vision. Your defense has some talented players on it. Jesse bates one of the best safety in the nfl. William jackson a good young corner I know he's been a bit inconsistent. Bit banged up. So maybe they'll go ahead and the maybe they won't. I don't know what they're doing that direction but their defense plays hard. It's not great. It's not even necessarily good is a little bit below average but it plays a really really hard and it was able to shut out tennessee for a very long time in offense. They know how. The draft players tyler. Boyd higgins those are two young receivers. aj green yo. He still show he has good hands. he's not the same burner that he used to be. I don't know how long keep aj green on the roster. I think is a real chance they move off of him. This this coming off season. They don't resign him. I think he got franchise tag this year. So i know what's going to happen there but they have some good running backs. They need to fix the offensive line. Get him a viable tight end. And when i looked at the division. We're not really sure what cleveland's gonna be. We don't know who their quarterback is going to be this next season but even has a lot of talent on it. I think this is going to be like the nfc west. This is going to be a division. That's going to be very very competitive. It's going to be tough. Every team is probably going to have a winning record of some sorts or be close to five hundred there will be no cakewalk games. In this division it will be competitive to the very end of the season adding the ravens again. Next season will be up there because they just even. If even if lamar always play beautiful football against really bad teams they destroy them in even gets good teams they can destroy them just because of their run game in how creative they can get on offense But i think that the league is trying to figure out. Lamar bit more here. And that is kind of concerning. I'll speak on that in the next subject of s for the steelers. We don't know a big. Ben is gonna look like we just don't he could hit that wall he has always been a workout warrior. Hasn't always Taken care of himself so we don't know how he has aged season. I think he's better than i had imagined he would. We don't know what he's going to look like next year and then again. The browns beggar gonna be there. We'll have a new quarterback. No clue the bengals could be at least in position to maybe fight for a wild card spot. Maybe if they can surround borough with a bit more talent fixed offensive lineup. If you like zac. Taylor go ahead with him if not get him a good young head coach a good offensive leaning coach most likely draft offensive. Linemen get them a good tight. End bill around him. This is the same thing for the chargers. To chargers the raiders. I mean how do you really believe. In the raiders island. How do you believe in the broncos. I don't know the chargers. If they can just get a new head coach gets them be better offense of line to protect herber. I mean eh. He looks good right now. Imagine what he could do in. Imagine the games. They could win if they had a coach. That wasn't coaching this kind of mentality in the team to where they lose all these close games. I'm not saying it's all anthony one's fault but is gonna fall on his shoulders and that's why i think they can move on from him. Hey when you have the quarterback when you find the guy. The next step is putting them in the best position to succeed. The chargers and the bengals both need to do that as soon as possible. Anyway it's coming up next speaking of quarterbacks as two quarterbacks in the nfl that are really really concerning to me watching them play and for one of them. This has been going on now for probably two years And their their name and their talent seems to be bigger than the product. They're actually putting out there on the field. I'm gonna talk about that next. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team. Check out the gsm. See fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice on how to start who to sit. Even who. You should draft from sleeper picks. Red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's gmc podcasts. Dot com backslash fantasy dash football dash. Podcasts we'll cover traditionally dynasty few. Pr even dp when you need fantasy help. There's just one showed up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs mc podcast dot com for more info. Welcome back to the gmc football podcast. Last segment talked about to debut and joe burrow these two in the same draft class instant. Hit even herber. Who was taken after. Both of these guys has been an instant hit right now. We're all waiting for to a borough right. Now is the highest graded quarterback in his division right now to. I don't even. I don't even know if he would necessarily qualify but his great at the moment not great his qbr grave through one performance. Not great and i don't judge quarterbacks based off of one game i'm gonna give to a few more games but you'll given what i have seen from borough and herbert if he doesn't look even moderately better than he did against the rams. I think there is real room for concern regarding to and his future moving forward because the dolphins might go ahead and pull josh rosen and move off of him immediately so in the last segment i ended up giving away at least one of the quarterbacks. I'm gonna talk about in this segment. And it'll be a lamar jackson because he's been very very concerning to me. But he's the second quarterback i wanna talk about. I have a much more pressing issue to get to regarding carson wentz carson wentz on the season. Here are his stats. He's still nineteen hundred yards completing fifty eight point. Four percent of his passes twelve touchdowns through the air so twelve passing touchdowns to twelve interceptions. And here's what's crazy right. So his last game was against the cowboys. The cowboys are injury riddled all over the place. They are not a good team. I said the there one legitimate when really is against the that's their one legitimate win. And they almost lost that game otherwise they had their win against the falcons. I think doesn't cow. There should be a one team they should be at the bottom of the division. They're not good anywhere defensively. Horrible offense can't get it going until they're hopelessly behind. This is just not a good team whether it was with dak or without back. It's just now even without back. Their offense can't even get go in the second half it. This is just not a good team and they win the game with with ben de nucci against carson wentz and i expected really. I thought the eagles would mop the floor with them. I said carson has twelve interceptions. On the season he had four total turnovers against the cowboys ending at two interceptions and two lost. Fumbles carson wentz. This season has been an absolute turnover machine. And i just didn't see it coming. I didn't see him turning the ball. Over this way i knew he liked to throw interceptions. He kind of has a little bit of philip rivers in them he likes his turnovers opens up a bakery every sunday Just serving them up in this season especially he has been so turnover prone in this ridiculous. Whether it's fumbling interceptions he has not looked the same his qbr against the cowboys his quarterback efficiency rating. So let's takes into account what he did with his legs with his arm. Everything his whole performance. He had a twenty nine point six against the cowboys against a defense. That is historically giving up points that has historically giving up yards and historically lacking effort demarcus lawrence. He looked like the best player on that cowboys. Defense i give it to him. Demarcus lawrence played hard than out of his mind. It's not his fault that they did that bad. His offense couldn't do anything four turnovers. You spotted the cowboys four extra possessions. They did nothing can touch them. And i guess that's kind of what to expect with bendon uji being the quarterback. He does not like nfl quarterback. I think that was another mike mccarthy signing because i think what does it he played with he he he was a player under his brother or something so i think that was kind of like a sympathy draft. Pick your pick him late in the round just because he's a good kid and then all your brother knew him he he's on nfl quarterback. Here's what's really really concerning to me though about carson wentz right i gave you is quarterback rating twenty nine point six against the cowboys. Here is the quarterback rating of every other quarterback. And i'll tell you the name of the quarterback to kyle and had a sixty three sixty nine point three cuyler murray had an eighty five. Wilson had eighty five point seven. Daniel jones had sixty three point. Seven mayfield had a sixty four point. Four matt ryan had an eighty eight point five the closest to carson wentz was jared goff who had a thirty nine point. Nine jared. Goff's qbr about ten points higher than carson wentz. That was the that originally was the lowest. And i think there's even the discussion to have about about jared goff because he is a really big system guy. I mean he needs the system of sean mcvay to be successful. He needs protection. He needs everything to be right. And even then he will still have these games where he is just not good There's some of those. Two thousand sixteen quarterbacks those jared goff carson wentz went one into a real argument to be made dak prescott is better than both of them but that is very very concerning to me the cowboys defense as bad as they are in as lacking of motivation as they have had on film. We've seen clips of jalen smith. We've seen you guys on the on the on the end. Around old beckham sinement. They're basically tackling themselves and just running out of bounds the effort just isn't there carson. Wentz four turnovers. Na qbr of one thousand nine point six and a lot of people are blaming it because of the things around him. And i have been one of those people i have said. You're taking away. Four of his starving five offensive linemen lane. Johnson can't stay healthy. They lost to others to season ending. Injuries jason peters did come back but then he got banged up in his receiving wise. He finally get regular back. You get john jackson back but then he gets her immediately. Jeffery has yet to play. his leading. Receiver is travel them. His leading tight end is richard rodgers. It's not it's it's not even gathered. it's richard rodgers. And i think another one leading receivers is a former quarterback is can't remember his name with the moment a greg ward full The last four weeks leads the nfl in receiving yards this is what carson wentz's having to work with and i give them credit for working with it but when you look at his performance as a whole carson wentz leads the nfl and turnover worthy plays with twenty three. That is ten more than any other quarterback in the nfl. I mean he is a turnover waiting to happen and i even against the cowboys. Okay so can i just say. This is the hallmark of a good quarterback and of a good coach and a good offensive scheme. And everything of play when your key. Starters get hurt when you can't really do when you can't run the plays that you really want to anymore. The thing that happens is you. Change the game plan if you're offensive line. All of a sudden is really really bad. There's probably no more five-step drops bootlegs and that's a lot of quick outs. In it's getting the ball out of the quarterback's hand really fast. If you no longer have any burners at receiver you're not really asking anyone to run a go route you're asking people to run intermediate quick outs curl routes things like that reading the ball again. Out of the receiver. Out of the quarterback's hand quickly. Why does carson wentz keep going deep. I feel like in. This is just my own personal opinion. This is all me. And just what i saw against the cowboys okay. He doesn't have any burners on his team. Okay and jalen regular. He just came back. I don't think they're going to be asking him to run. A whole bunch of fly patterns in everything Why isn't that carson wentz. Continuously goes deep. Two of his big interceptions were on deeper passes or at least the the one that driven digs in the end zone was on the deep pass. Why does carson wentz. Why does it feel like he. Continuously looks for the big play instead of taking what the defense gives him. Sometimes players get caught up in their own hype and sometimes they get caught up in their contract and they get caught up in the notion that they need to be spectacular. They need to validate their contract. They need to play that. They need to play outside of themselves. When the reason why you get the contract is because you have been playing your brand the football in your brand. The football works now carson. Wentz is not perfect. He's been injury prone in his career. Banged up every single season. I think there's a weird stat out. There he started off three of you know three of his first four. Nfl seasons he started five and six his his actual career record against winning. Teams is not good. He's never won a playoff game. He he hasn't even been able to really make it to the playoffs of and then you see how carson wentz playing this year. The eagles somehow are in first place and if they make it to the playoffs it will be easiest first round game whoever faces them is going to have a cake walk and it will just be. It will be a bye week by that point time. Maybe they'll be a bit healthier. Maybe they won't suffer any more injuries. I have no idea of but it's just it does not look pretty and carson wentz for him be when you get paid to be a franchise quarterback you're getting paid to uplifting carrier team and either you're telling me that the pieces around him are so bad that this is as high as he can uplift them or carson wentz. Just isn't the guy you know. I mean there is. Is there a possibility. He just might not be the guy yeah. He's big he's strong. he's mobile. He has a wicked arm but his decision making isn't great. Seems to want to go for the big play more often than not rather than taking the defense gives him and making the right play. I i don't know all the all the says carson wentz should be good but then when you look at the results it has not been that he had that one spectacular season and other than that he has been average to below average beating up on bad teams losing the good teams that has been carson wentz. The quarterback a very concerned. What is lamar jackson. Now i'm not out on lamar jackson. I'm not saying he's going to be a bus. But what i'm saying is i think the ceiling of the ravens might be lower than we thought. A lot of people thought that the ravens last year would be if anything a playoff team right. You look lamar jackson's rookie year. He uplifted the ravens. Took them to the playoffs. He didn't have a great game. He show these really really rosza passer. He's a great running threat but it seemed like the chargers kind of figured out. How the neutralize it. And they put the nor db's which meant more speed less linebackers and they were just able to control him and the thing that they also show that. If you get up on the ravens if you're able to score and then make lamar from behind. They've always kinda showed. At least the nfl recipe is when you're behind you need to throw the take the lead. You cannot run to take the lead so then year two comes around and lamar jackson and the ravens explode. And in the most unstoppable team. They're fourteen into number one offense like the number two defense and there were number one in so many categories for offense. The only area of offense they were below average in was the passing game. But what lamar jackson complemented with is he was number one. In the nfl and touchdown passes they have an offense that was ranked passing wise in like the twenties. And the was number one and touchdown passes so they made it work. It looked like they figured out a system to make it work with lamar jackson and this was going to be something they can run back. You're out and so then they come into this season and yes it was disappointing last year. They weren't able to close the season they weren't able to actually win a playoff game once again. Tennessee blitz them. It wasn't all the mar- jackson's fault but he is copa bowl. He came out in the admitted. They overlook tennessee. They didn't think they were real And now you look at the ravens this year even though they're second in their division do the ravens look anything like they did last year. Not to me my opinion. They don't outside of their win against cleveland. This team is very very beatable and it seems like what defensives have figured that what the ravens is. They are going to stack the box and they're just going to ask them are. Can you be us with your arm. we're gonna have our linebackers really play you we're gonna play to contain. We're gonna make sure that your runs to the outside our for like five or four yards and not ten not fifteen you will not gash us for fifty in just. Can you be this with your arm. And what lamar jackson has shown is that you can't that game against pittsburgh. The ravens dominated that game and yet. Lamar jackson was turning the ball over uncharacteristically. He was low in terrible. Picks fumbling trying to do too much. I think what lamar has shown. Actually this season he has regressed as a passer. Okay so actually. I have the stats for you. So last year the ravens were the twenty seventh ranked passing game twenty seventh ranked passing game this year. They're thirty first. They are a worse passing football team. Last year they were number one importance. They were number one first. Downs number one and touchdown passes the point differential. Everything lamar jackson. This team were just ridiculous. Their defense was ridiculous. The offense was clicking and this season. The book is kind of out. They look to run. I make lamar. Jackson throw it. His completion percentages dipped. Everything has dipped. He is he does not look the same pro. Football focus has him ranked at the moment as like the seventeenth. Eighteenth best quarterback in the nfl last year. They had him as the fifth best. Now there's still time for him to turn around. His rent could always climb. It is with every single week. It does change but thus far whether what what what is the recommended they five and five and two on the whether the record i think it's five and two through seven games. He is the seventeenth. Eighteenth best quarterback in the nfl. He has not looked the same defenses. Have started to figure him out. May kim throw the football and even some of these games. I mean you can see even in the play calling. It seems like they're trying to have him drop back more to be a passer to be a pocket passer when he's not that he's not accurate enough. I don't think he has the patience for. He wants to move too much. He wants to get out of trouble too quickly. And now they're offensive. Line took a major hit and they lost ronnie stanley which is terrible. He's been the best tackle in the nfl. The last two seasons combined altogether he has been the best tackle pro focus said sometimes when they watch him he makes pass blocking look easy like he makes. It look like just anyone should be able to go out there impasse block. He makes it look so easy. They just gave him a huge extension and he's out for the year. That is a huge bolt of their offensive. Line i think they're gonna move their right. Tackle orlando brown over the left. Tackle this ravens team. When i look at them. I think lamar can play. I think at the moment. He is probably the third best quarterback in his division. And you can win with that especially when you surround them with good pieces. I still think the ravens are going to finish a double digit win team. I still think there'll be one of the best teams in the afc. But i think they're ceiling as low. Lamar jackson is a front runner when the team is ahead and they can run the football and they can play their basic style of offense. The team looks good and they run away with the victory. A bad teams. They humiliate them a decent teams. They can beat them by one or two scores against the really good teams. It gets closer but then the question is who has the lead at. What point in the game do they have the lead for. Whatever reason the ravens even with lamar being as limited a passy is when they are down. They go to throwing throwing when i think. And i've said this before. I'm being consistent. I have said i think the ravens should display their their game. They should just continue to run the football. They shouldn't care if they're down by one score or two scores. Throwing the football will not get them back into the game. Lamar jackson is not there and held. There is a chance he will never be there. Maybe he should go work with the palmer. Brothers 'cause they seem to have really fixed josh allen. Maybe he needs to go talk to them work on his mechanics. Get that fixed at the moment. He's not that guy. You need to run the football with lamar jackson to have any chance. Really of winning games and coming back and i guess that's kind of when that question comes how long can he do. This rg three. Who's obviously his backup. Rg three was a was a was a better passer than lamar jackson but had a great running element to his game. You combine the two. He was great offensive rookie of the year carried washington but then the injuries just piled up to the point where he couldn't really see the field and teams. Were afraid to take a chance on him because his he do. We wanna take a chance with a running quarterback. I don't know i don't know the. Nfl fits lamar jackson. Now more than ever but you still need to be able to throw it on the move. Rolling to your left to your. You need to be able to drop back in. Throw it lamar jackson. Right now. wasn't the guy. And i would like to think one day he can be that guy. I like lamar. I think the game is exciting with him in it. He is literally michael. Vick two point. Oh but The nfl defenses seemed to have figured him out. This ravens team doesn't give off the same vibes of just unbeatable. They don't give off those vibes anymore. They look like a very very beatable team. I'm not out on the mar. A must saying he can't be the quarterback of the future for the ravens. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying i think at the moment given where he is as a passer. This team has a ceiling. And i don't know if the ceiling is super bowl. Would you take the ravens over the chiefs right now. Would you take the ravens over over the steelers right now. I don't know. Are you taking over the bucks. Are you taking over the seahawks or the packers or the saints or the rams because a lot of these teams are either against the run or get against the past the packers against the past not great against the run. They could gear up to stop the run in just force. Lamar the past seattle. They could. they're good against the run against the past. But lamar jackson isn't great against the past and so on and so forth. I think a lot of these teams are kind of geared up to stop what the ravens do best. And lamar jackson doesn't have a second fastball. Right now to be able to counteract it maybe one day he can develop it Vile no i. I can't predict he's going to. I can't say he's going to. We would just have to see it anyway. Coming up next thursday night. Football my topic of the day expectations versus reality for the entire. Nfl and look at every single division. And i'm going to look at look at how the team's doing look at how they've been performing have has the vision basically mother expectations or the reality smack in the face that coming up in the final topic of the day. Check out the show. That's built on the mma from the ufc. Two extreme cage by the they got the fights covered. Check out the gmc. M a podcast. Get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we talked to. And about some of the biggest names in mma past present and future when it's the fight game there's just one showed a checkout gsm see podcast dot com backslash. Mame dash. Podcast don't forget to let them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs mc podcasts dot com for more info. Welcome back to the gmc football podcast. Last segment talked about two quarterbacks that are very concerning to me carson. Wentz an lamar jackson. Both of their names are big. We see the ability of them on the field carson. Wentz always think at this point is still. He's a better passer. Than than than lamar jackson. I think he's demonstrated that the thing with carson wentz's other than his second year. Outside of his second year he has not been the same player. He's been a turnover machine. He's just made erratic decisions. He's one of the more. Turn over worthy play. Quarterbacks in the league and lamar jackson the thing that has been his ailment since the beginning of his nfl career. Getting my were only in his third season now but since the beginning of his nfl career. It's been as passing your number two. He took a big leap but the passing game. When you really look at it. He added league in passing touchdowns they had the twenty seventh ranked passing game as a whole so. It was a lot of short passes is thinking through close to four thousand yards but didn't quite reach it and this season they're passing game is ranked thirty first in the league and the ravens look beatable. The eagles just look like a mess and like they're going to win this division with maybe six or seven wins. It is just a. I think there is there is. It's time to be a little bit concerned about both these quarterbacks for the eagles it is is once the guy can you really rely on him and then for cars effort for lamar jackson. It is what is his ceiling. Is this his ceiling. As good of a passer is he's going to be do. They need to surround him with even better receivers. I have no idea But nonetheless so thursday night football packers and niners looking at this game. I think going into the season. Most people would have assumed that the niners we're going to blow the packers off the field because the last two times these teams faced in the This past season it was not a competition than either. Green bay was instantly overwhelmed. They kind of looked like a finesse. Football team the forty niners physical. They ran all over them. The defense was smothering and aaron rodgers could not do anything to them into games. I think if they hit even faced a third time it would have been the same. The niners would have completely swept the packers this season. That's a bit different because the forty niners are oh just just completely just bombarded with injuries and it hasn't been pretty of for the packers though before i really get into the niners i want to talk about the packers in this so the packers this season obviously are at the top of their division whether they now they're five in two i believe top division. Aaron rodgers is the second highest grade the quarterback quarterback in the nfl by pro football focus. This has been his comeback season and there was all the noise about aaron rodgers and the packers going into the season because rogers play hasn't been the same over the past few years and then there were looking at probably draft jordan love and then they did draft jordan love and then all of a sudden. The love wasn't really panning out. He can even beat the backup. He's the third stringer he. The teams usually try and make any excuse to make the guy. They drafted in the first round at least bare minimum. Be the backup. They try and find any excuse. They can't even come up with an excuse to put him there. He's the third stringer. So you have that concern. But in drafting jordan love what they then what they basically said was. We're not worried about this season. And they showed. They weren't worried about this season with their next to draft picks so after taking jordan love who by the way they had to trade up in the draft to get they then drafted. Aj dylan who is a throwback style running back not really a pass catcher. He's a big bulky strong dude that i think they were hoping they could some kind of power running game. He is the third string running back. He's not better than aaron jones. Quite frankly he's not better than jamaal williams. They both fit the nfl nowadays. Better than aj dylan. Does i remember watching a pro football focus clip when they drafted aj dylan and everybody a pro. Football focus left. They couldn't the packers drafted them and then with their third pick. They drafted a blocking tight. End who i think had one catch on the season and then he got hurt in these gone for the entire season. They skipped out on drafting so many possible receivers and while you can say it was because they really liked. They're receiving corps. They liked davante adams. Of course one of the best receivers in the nfl. But after that it was allen. Lazard who i guess before. His injury was actually showing he could be a legitimate number two. He's a deep threat. he can take off. He was better than i think people expected. But then it got hurt. And then it was marquez. Valdes scantling who i think can is a third or fourth receiver on any other team. And he's kind of number two and then without davante adams and allen lazard became a number and so it was him. It was their tight end. I can't remember the titans name at the moment of I know what's Robert Became his to go. To's here are some of the receivers that the packers didn't draft who so far have been hit in the nfl. Michael pittman la viscous should know who i think is one of the biggest shocks of the draft. He has been excellent in jacksonville he. Dj charq dede westbrook. If you can come back healthy you know from from his ankle injury that he got. I mean that can be a really really good receiving core chase claypool k. j. hamblur i mean that's just four of them and that's an order. By the way all of those receivers were second round picks the packers could have traded up to draft one of them or they just flat out picked one of them but they didn't. They took a third string quarterback and a third string running back and a blocking tight end. Who had one catch on the season. That is what the packers did with. Aaron rodgers and aaron rodgers is doing what he's doing this season. Rogers has thrown nineteen hundred yards twenty touchdowns two picks again the number two rated quarterback by pro football focus and then before the trading deadline. There's all this talk. The packers are planning to trade for will fuller. they want will fuller. And then all of a sudden the trade deadline comes and goes and there was no deal for will fuller in those because they couldn't figure out what kind of draft capital they wanted to part ways with. They didn't think it was worth it now. Reports are the texans wanted a number one or number two for for will fuller and for some teams that might not be worth it because he's a pulled hamstring away from missing like five games. That's the way it's been every single season. He's a great deep threat. He is a great number two receiver on any team. The problem is he can't stay healthy. He's going to remain on the texans from the remainder of the season. And i guess we'll see what happens in the off season but even then the packers won and even pull the trigger to get rogers a solid number two receiver cause lazar. This still allow. Adams did come back. But we don't know if he's going to even remain healthy for the remainder of the season. He always gets banged up. This is i think the packers they to they failed the draft. And i think they failed. Aaron rodgers already talked about how i think historically when you look at aaron rodgers as talent and you look at the success the team has had. I already think they've kind of failed. One super bowl appearance with aaron rodgers is unacceptable because of the talent that he is but then you look at what they've even what they didn't do in the draft if they were willing to trade for jordan love right. I don't know maybe hindsight's twenty twenty if they knew by training for joining the love they'd have their third string quarterback this season like would they may be traded up with the vikings or somebody else and tried to jump in front of them to draft a guy like justin jefferson. I don't think they will. They had a shot at sea lamb. Allah think they would have had a shot at jerry jeudy. I don't think they could've traded up for those guys but could they have maybe traded up for justin jefferson who has essentially been the number one or number two graded receiver by pro football focus all year. Long he's been amazing for the vikings he and phelan. I mean they do not miss. Stefan digs maybe. They miss his energy but justin jefferson is outstanding. The vikings have him. he's going to remain in that division. Aaron rodgers is going to have to watch what he does to his defense twice a year for the next you know until she retires at least maybe until he's out of the green bay. I just think the packers organization has done him such a disservice especially for this season because aaron rodgers has seemingly turned back the hands of time. And he's back to looking like aaron rodgers and again he's kind of doing it with one. Receiver has been a surprise at tight. End valdes. Scantling is nice. I'm still waiting for lazard. The comeback the offensive line. I think a lot of people take a big hit. Losing beluga by a blogger. I'm sorry of losing him. It hasn't really. It's been one of the better offensive lines in the nfl. I think pro football focus at one point had it ranked as the number one pass blocking offensive line on it still is but it's like top five so i mean i just think they could have done a lot more. They could have done a lot. More for aaron rodgers this season. They didn't and against the niners. I'm going to take the packers. Beat them because they just simply look at the niners and i say they're done this season. Jimmy garoppolo's hurt again. George kittle is hurt again. Devil samuel Getting nicked up again. They have multiple have thirteen players on ira or at least her other on the injury report. I mean this has not been a nightmare season and it all started basically game one game two. You lose nick both. And then you lou sullivan thomas going into the season. You're placing guys on i. Irr richard sherman still hasn't seen the field of they traded away. What kwame alexander. He just didn't pan out jimmy garoppolo. He's in and out of the lineup. george kittle. he's her comes. These hurt has a broken foot in his bone. He set to miss like eight weeks. I think this is just the super bowl hangover year for the niners. It's just not working out. This is a law season. All the talent on this team so much of it returned to this year They did have some deficiencies at wide receiver. But you thought that would cow. Shanahan's play calling in the defense. They can make up for and it simply hasn't worked out that way. And i look at this niners team and i think to myself it. Are they going to run. This back with jimmy garoppolo like next season or are they gonna run this back with him. Because i don't think so. I thought after this. I thought after the super bowl they would look to move on from jimmy garoppolo. 'cause i watched how kyle shanahan called plays you can watch certain teams call plays and you can tell what they think of their quarterback when it's when you when you need a three first downs essentially to waste a teams timeouts and your team. All they do is run three straight times getting like one to two yards a clip. And they don't get a first down what they're telling you is. They don't trust their quarterback to throw it. They would rather run the football in risk punting in away. Then put it. In the quarterbacks hands i watched a game in which the niners i think called eight passing plays during the playoffs. Jimmy garoppolo had eight passing plays. They ran the ball for the rest of the time. And it worked to perfection and then the super bowl they ran they ran it. They ran it and then as soon as the game got. Closer shanahan panicked. He tried to put in garoppolos hands. Any fail them in this season. Once again grop blow not looking great. He's getting banged again. He has been injury prone his entire career even in limited games basically. He has had multiple injuries. And i just think shanahan looks at than says garoppolo. This is his ceiling. He is a turnover prone quarterback in we limit his throws already. He gets banged up. And i just think we can do better and i think what they are going to do is they're gonna look this off season and they're gonna look guys like matt ryan. I think they're gonna look guys kirk cousins guys. That kyle shanahan likes in that. He has had real success with guys who are healthier. Who are who are not as injury prone as garoppolo. I think he's going to look at those guys. And i think he's gonna try and move on to jimmy garoppolo. Now we'll team on the trade for him. I have no clue the only team that really comes to my mind that would want to trade for garoppolo is maybe the patriots. Maybe bill belichick. Maybe bill bell check would want to take jimmy garoppolo back but other than that. I can't really envision a scenario where he team wants to trade for him. I think the book is kinda album jimmy garoppolo. he's more of a trailer than attractor. Now he's a nice trailer. You this metaphor. I use some time that the tractor is the thing that polls the team whereas the trailer is obviously going along for the ride. I think jimmy garoppolo is more trailer. Been tractor now. He's a nice trailer. He's built trailer. He's a bit more refined. They put some nice pieces on him. He moves a bit easier. He's not one of these older slower. Not as well made rusty trailers like he moves pretty decent He doesn't always hold you back but he's not the best but he is better than average and i think bill belichick would look at the opportunity to get him any probably jump at it. He didn't want to part with jimmy garoppolo. In the first place member he wanted to part ways with brady and he wanted to keep garoppolo. And i think bill belichick would do was he'd look and see that garoppolo still has some years on this deal. He's not making nearly as much as the top quarterbacks in the league at this point because of the way his contract was structured and to be a thing of bill bell check could trade for him. You would then have your quarterback and then he could focus on of on all the other areas of the team he could focus on really looking for a top receiver. He could focus on getting some more defensive help and so on and so forth Other than that. I just don't know where else he would go. But when i look at the niners. I just think this is one of those really funky years. Some teams are just a bit more injury. injury people think of like the eagles or the chargers as teams that just perpetually get her this year. The niners are battling injuries at every single level of their team. I mean what is it again. They have like thirteen players. Or on. I are it does not Acl's and and and messed up knees in in strains richard sherman still hasn't seen the field though the running backs her top tight end. Her receiving core is her. This is just not the rear. So i would take the packers to win the game. I think when it convincingly and i honestly think nick molins like it might not be the worst idea for the niners to go. Forward with nick mullins. I think nick mullins is pretty decent. I think you can do better. Which is why. I think given shanahan's history. I think he would look at a guy. Like matt ryan or a guy like kirk cousins as people to may i in trade for. I don't think that is gonna be bad enough to get a top pick. Maybe they would be aggressive enough to trade a hall of picks to get top quarterback in the draft. But i don't think so So i would look at guys like matt ryan or cousins to come available in hell. They might shock us and they might go ahead and grab another guy free agency. Maybe sam darnold. Maybe they'll try and trade for him. You could always look dak. Prescott cam newton mitch. Trubisky like maybe kyle. Shanahan will just shock us all other than that. I will take the packers to outright win this game and it was coming up next valentine's day get into my expectations versus reality for the entire. Nfl that coming up next topic today. Thank you for tuning in this. Show built around the women from the ufc to the extreme cage. Fighting we got the fights. Cover the golden state media concepts. Women's mma podcast. The latest news of upcoming fleiss discussions of reviews mattresses join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game you were to listen to the golden state media concept's women's mma. Podcast made me made me. Welcome back to the gmc football podcast. Last make talked about thursday night football between the niners and the packers. I think the packers will win Really the only thing. I'm gonna be able to tell anything about really from this game. I think we'll be the packers. The packers can't win this game easily Then i think maybe it's a credit to just kyle shanahan or maybe it is an indictment on the packers because they have shown teams can run the football on them. They've shown the be. Maybe a little bit more of a finesse team so maybe the void nine can take advantage of it but i just think the packers will win the game. I think that the green bay organization has done aaron rodgers this season especially a service not getting him a another good young number two wide receiver. Not giving him a solid number two next to atoms. And then that's for the niners. They're beaten up in injured. The quarterback tight end the wide receivers defensive line running backs everything. Everything is just beaten for them and so this is kind of a lost year for this team. Is the super bowl hangover so anyways. Let's get into this so many expectations versus reality going into the season. I had expectations for every single division in every single team. I don't really wanna go team by team by team. Because i'm gonna be here forever doing it so i'm going to kind of go by division. So we're gonna start with the afc and the conference and we will start with the afc east so the afc east my expectation for this team for this division was i would probably see new england topic in the bills probably going to be fighting for second place. The dolphins will be in third and the jets would be in fourth. The reality of the situation is the bills are actually a really good team. They're six and two in. While josh allens play has kind of been a little bit inconsistent with these last few weeks over the last four games or so they are still six and two. Josh allens top ten quarterback. This team is firmly in the playoff race. And the only that's closer to them in their division is miami at four and three new england's two and five and the jets are even worse. I think than we imagined. I think we all thought the record would be bad. The season i actually predict the jets to be oh and sixteen but for them to look as incompetent as they do is just terrible. They've scored ninety four points on the season and they've allowed two hundred thirty eight. It's terrible my expectation was supposed to be bill. Bell checks top division and the bills will be fighting for second and it is. The patriots are are. They might finish with a top five. Pick a top ten pick and the bills are going to be in the late twenties in those like they're gonna win the division For the afc. West my expectation the chiefs. We're gonna be i. I thought maybe the charges would be second but they could be fighting with denver. But i didn't buy into the drew lock as much as everybody else did. I thought the charges would be second. And then the broncos probably be third in the raiders will be fourth turns out the chiefs are number one. But the raiders are number two right behind them as the broncos at three and four and the chargers are too in five. I completely whiffed on the chargers. I thought with taylor. They would run a system kind of like the ravens. A taylor can pass and he can run. I saw that looks something like baltimore and they just didn't do it. They dropped him back. Like you was philip. Rivers and the raiders are inconsistent. They beat really good teams and all of a sudden they lose a game. You think they should win and denver has just been battling injuries. Themselves colleague niners. They have been her at every single level of the team. This is just not there year. The chiefs obviously are basically healthy. And they're fine and they are rolling so the chiefs. They've held up their end of the bargain. The rest of the teams are really messing. It up for the afc north. I thought going into the season the ravens would be number one. The browns would be number two. The steelers will be number three and the bengals would be number four. The reality is the steelers are seven now which i had no clue what's going to happen. The ravens are five and two and look vulnerable like they do not look like they. They're going to finish what they really good record. But i just think this team can be beaten any other day. you know. I think the ravens candy. Anybody but i also think anybody can really beat the ravens. If you have a competent quarterback in a competent team the ravens can be had if you can force lamar jackson to throw. They can't be had for the browns I'm not really sure what to think. I thought the browns had finish. Maybe around five hundred. I think they still could finish around there. But they're run. Game is outstanding. Their offense is one of the most efficient in the nfl. I love stefanski. I'm very worried about baker. In s for the bengals they are the best two five and one team i have ever seen in. Joe burrow was an absolute hit. I had no clue he would be this. Good this fast. He is the highest graded quarterback in his division. And i think next season he will be the dude in that division. It falls on the bengals if they're going to actually surround him with the Appropriate talent but again. The steelers have shocked me. The ravens have kind of disappointed me. I'm not sure. What the mega the browns i did. Not expect them to be five in three. But they're one of the most kind of inconsistent weird five and three teams. I've seen the bengals. I don't know. Are they better than the record. I think they're played dictates better than the record. But you know. A missed field goal Some some unlucky interceptions by joe burrow some rookie. Interceptions make some mistakes. Because he's a young dude. I think you can correct them next year or as the season goes on But yeah the afc. North did a complete one eighty on me. And i did not see it coming and last but not least the afc south. I really wasn't sure what to make of this division because every single year the teams kind of all hover around each other. They all finished with close to the same record. No one really runs away with the division. It's kinda like the the nfc east the nfc east. Whoever runs away with it the when the cowboys are double digit win teams. That seems to be the only time the only time it seems like any team runs away with the division when when they hit double digit wins other than that. It's kind of perpetually around ten and six nine and seven eight. No one ever really separates themselves and with the afc south for these last few years. It's kind of been nine and seven eight ten and six football teams can win the division and they all kind of hover around each other but going into the season. i thought it'd be tennessee. Would take the lead. I thought the texans would be second. I thought the coal to be third. And i thought jacksonville would be fourth i. The thing is that. I thought all the teams would be close to each other. I thought the record would be maybe a game. Two games three games would separate them all either. Not expect to see the texans and jags tied for last in the division at one in six and i didn't expect to see the titans and colts tied for first wet five and two right now. Titans are are our head right now they technically in i but the colt have been way better than i thought they would be. Their defense is number one or early. It was number one in the nfl for for like the first four five weeks of the season. It's been great. Rivers is a bit inconsistent but the offensive line has really helped him out. They've been banged up at running back and wide receiver. I think philip rivers probably isn't their quarterback next year. I think they're gonna move in another direction. I'm interested to see if they try. And trade for sam darnold. 'cause i think sam donal with the colts would make them a contender. I think this colts literally quarterback a way for being a true contender tennessee. Yeah there are top of the division. I just i just think they're frauds. I thought they'd be a super bowl threat. I think they're frauds because their defense just isn't good enough and then houston's just been an absolute disappointment to me even with the shawn watson there one in six. They've just been absolutely disappointing and for jacksonville. You week one. I thought they were actually gonna be pretty decent. They have since then lost six straight and while they have been competitive in some of these games it has not been pretty and their next game gunderman. She was not going to be the starter. So i yeah. The jacksonville is gonna finish the number two number three overall pick. They will have a shot at drafting a top quarterback so that is my expectation versus reality for the afc. Now let's go to the nfc with the nfc east. So when i look to the east again. I kind of looked at it. Like the afc south all these teams kinda hover around each other. They beat up on each other. Other teams beat up on them. And i thought it'd be close. But ultimately i thought that philadelphia would be able to win this division. Because i looked at that prescott last year with the team and it was basically the same team minus the lamb and obviously new head coach. But i looked at it. And i said i mean for all the talent they had the number one offense in the nfl and their defense was bad and it only got worse and offensively. They put the ball those numbers and they still went eight nate so i didn't have faith in the cowboys. I thought the cowboys would take second. Because i thought they'd be better than washington and better than the giants. I thought the giants would take third in washington would be fourth a reality kicked in and the are first at three or four and one not what they thought they'd be. Washington is in second at two and five. Wow the cowboys are two in six in third and the giants have bringing up the rear end at one and seven and they might be the best one in seven team. I've ever seen in my life. They compete every single game in a daniel. Jones wasn't a machine. I think the giants would have at least maybe two or three more wins. So yeah this division. It did not turn out to be what i thought it would be. The eagles have been an injury riddled mess and aren't really good in any position on the team Their offensive line's banged up. The receiving corps is banged up. The running backs tight ends. The everything on this team is banged up for washington. They bench their starting quarterback bringing kyle alan. They think they can have a real shot to win division. And i can't say the wrong the cowboys they lose track. Their whole offensive line is basically gone. Their defense has been lacking an effort all season. Long demarcus lawrence has finally kinda come on strong. I think right now they have them as like the third grade. Defensive lineman by pro football focus and the giants. They play hard every single game. They play joe. Judge looks like he can coach their defense look. Solid needs a few more pieces but other than that. It looks really good and the question around. That team is daniel jones. Do they move forward with him. Can they control his turnover problem. What do they do know clue but yeah the nfc east. I did not think you would be this week this season. Let's go let's go to the nfc west going into the season. I thought the niners would be number one. I thought the rams would be number two. I thought the seahawks would be number. Three and the cargoes would be number four. I was trying to be realistic. I looked at the a. I looked at the forty niners and i said their whole team. Basically they're in their team isn't really predicated on the receivers. It's the run game. it's the offensive line. It's the defense the team is there. So i thought the niners would once again run away and they would be able to basically run their way to victory. Even with tougher schedule they would run away. The victory play great defense and they would be the top team again. When i looked at the seahawks i looked at their defense. And i just said no pass rush. I mean wagner's there but he kind of had a bit of a down near the secondary. I i don't know. I think this is going to be the strong point of their defense but but but but their offensive system. They don't let russ cook. They're gonna try and run the football and they're gonna fail and the team's gonna get robbed like this defense. I will think it's going to be good enough. And they're going to handicap russell wilson They're not gonna let him be what he should be in. It's going to be a terrible season and then s for the cardinals. I looked at them. And said i mean last year. They weren't good. I don't think they're gonna be great this year. The defense isn't great caligiuri. It's your number two He's more of a runner than the thrower. We'll see what happens. And then for the rams. I looked at them and i said hey sean mcvay last year kinda shocked him. I would think he expected the offensive line to be that bad and obviously they were dealing with some some injuries here and there. Todd gurley wasn't the same. They got rid of him. Brandin cooks has gone so now. It's robert woods. Cooper kupp the too tight ends and obviously the rams have been what they are reality. Kicks in the niners are banged up in their pulling up the rear of the division. I think they will finish in last place. The rams are an inconsistent five and three team that beat up on the nfc east and outside of that. They are one and four outside of the nfc east. The cardinals defense is surprisingly good. They lost a chandler jones. Which sucks for them. Because it's a big hit to their defense. I think that will be a thing. That really does swing their defense. Their defense could have been probably close to top ten because it's great against points it's great keeping opponents out of the end zone but now they don't have a pass rush and for seattle. They're six in one because of russell wilson they are a call away from being seven. And now it's crazy. I did not see that happening. I thought i thought they would handicap russell wilson. They've let him cook seattle's one of the best teams in the nfc east. I think they're one of the best teams in the nfl. I don't think their defense is good enough to win a super bowl right now. We'll see what happens when they get snacks and jamal adams back in obviously carlos dunlap. We'll see what happens there but as it stands right now they are the best team in the nfc west. And i'm curious to see how this all unfolded as the season goes on the north. I thought that the packers would take the lead. I thought packers would be number one. I thought the vikings would be number. Two above the lions would be number. Three in the bears will be number four. Or you know give or take flip the bears and the lions and you know three or four. You can kind of flipping back and forth. I wasn't really sure on either of those teams. But i thought the packers will be number one and the vikings would be to my goodness The packers are number. One and aaron rodgers has turn back the hands of time. The bears are surprisingly second in the division at five and three. They're the most phony five and three team of all time. Okay maybe not realistically but they are a phony five and three team. I don't believe in them to do anything in the playoffs. Even if they do make it and at this rate. I don't know if they are going to make it there so challenged offensively. It is all defense. And i mean matt nagy especially he's supposed to be this genius offensive play caller his what was his first year with trubisky. Things looked great these past two seasons. Where's the creativity whereas any of it. I don't see the creativity in anything to do offensively. It looks like a standard predictable offense. I i don't know what to make of it And for the lions yeah the lions. They have a really talented offense. Don't really know the defenses it again. It's kind of a team. They're three and four. Nothing really to talk about in the vikings for them to be too in five. I just didn't see it coming in kirk. Cousins has been a turnover machine this year. They beat the packers giving the ball to dalvin cook. Those on the ground and through the air They just they don't trust kirk cousins. Throw it they. Just don't this season has not been kirk cousins year So i did not expect this division. The pan this way i thought the packaging i but for the bears in lyons to both be ahead of the vikings this fall far blows my mind. I did not see that coming and last but not least the nfc south heading into the season. I thought the saints or by falling away going to run away with his division. Because of i've seen them do the past three years which is run away with the division. I thought the buccaneers would be second because their offense was too good and their defense was too good for them to be For them to be lower. Than the panthers and falcons i thought the falcons would take a third because again the offensive firepower. I thought they'd be too good their their defense thought. It'd be bad so i thought they would be a worse off team but i thought that least be better than the panthers. The panthers are were. I thought they'd be fourth. Because i didn't trust teddy bridgewater to do much and their defense. I didn't think it'd be good. Nor i think their offense would answer enough. The buccaneers our first at six into the saints are a very bad five and two team. Drew brees looks old. The defense doesn't look good and i. I'm kinda shocked at their five into the panthers. Three and five. That's than i thought they'd be. They have surprised me the season. And then for the falcons they are just. They're just a mess. They lose games. In the strangest of fashion's you give up a three touchdown lead against the bears to nick foles. You didn't jump on an on side kick because you didn't know you could and then you scored too quickly against the lions and you let stafford drive down the field with a minute left and like one time out in you lost. All of those games just terrible. Just if they had those three wins this team right now would be five and three and they'd be in third place and they would be fighting to actually try and get a wildcard spot three losses that could have all been wins could have completely changed how we looked at team this year. It's this has not been a good season for the falcons again. And obviously they fired their head. Coach fired there I think they fired the gm and its rebuild time. The buccaneers have surprised me. I didn't think they'd be this good this quickly. I think they are by far in the way the best team. I know that them in the saints are going to face off again. I do not expect the saints to win that game. And i don't really expect them to even look competitive. I think there's a great chance. The buccaneers steamroll them and for the panthers. I think they're in a really good rebuilding mode. And i gotta be honest with what i've seen from teddy bridgewater if you can surround him with with a bit more few more pieces get more familiar with the system. Maybe put a good defense. They're teddy bridgewater. Can maybe take this team to the playoffs and they could maybe be a legitimate contender because he has looked way better than i have ever seen him. Look before i got to give it up to their head coach. Rookie head coach. First time with teddy bridgewater. They look like a real team. But yeah i did not expect the nfc south to be the buccaneers. Basically to lose. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 710: Patriots' Ebbs and Flows

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 710: Patriots' Ebbs and Flows

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the golden state media. Concept's football podcast. Latest news on the field be at college football ten. Sec big twelve pac. Twelve acc to the nfl with got you covered. Listen to golden state media concepts football. Podcast Thank you tuning into the gmc football. Podcast the gmc podcast network. I'm your host kendrick. Hello hope you'll having a fantastic day. Hope you're all doing well. Some big news was announced over the weekend. I hope you're doing okay. I i know people are very very antsy right now as to what is going to happen over the next couple days over the next couple of weeks. How people are going to react to everything. I don't wanna get into with all i. This is this show. I don't really want to make it about politics and everything but hope everyone's okay hope you're doing well and thank you again for tuning in. We got some stuff talk today. I wanna talk about building around the young quarterbacks about the forty niners. I wanna talk about the evolution of the rookie. Qb and i want to talk about excuses being made in the nfl but anyways let's get into the so joe nemeth code into espn and he said that. Trevor in sam darnold night in the put down the exact quote because it isn't important but he said that trevor and sam donald both have an upside. But you can't keep both is basically what he said he said. Trevor lawrence has a ceiling that is tremendous and sam. Donald has a ceiling. That is good but at the end of the day if the just getting on overall pick and you have darnold in and you're looking the drafter lawrence you can't keep both on the same team. Now he went on to talk about how he feels that trevor lawrence there is a possibility he could look to force a trade kind of like an eli manning like some other players have done. If he really doesn't want to go play for the jets he could force the jets hand and more often than not. Especially when you're the quarterback you're going to win that battle. The jets do not want a disgruntled quarterback on their team. It's different one. That's another position. But when it's the guy who pulls the trigger when it's the quarterback it's just knock on the workout. You cannot have a former number three overall. Pick in a number one overall. Pick two quarterbacks that coming out of college where compared to andrew luck and were talked about being some of the best quarterback prospects to ever even come outta college. You can't have them both on the same team. It is bound to their bound. The butt heads. It's bound to make the locker room a been a bit. You can say on the edge. It was bound to be some bickering. Some comments in the media. Maybe some suffocating leaked. it just wouldn't work out now. of course. A lot of people have kind of accepted. The fact that the jets are gonna move on from sam donald right. They're gonna get that number one overall pick and they're gonna they're gonna move on from sam donald because they wanna drop trevor lawrence. Well the jets. Gm came out. And he said. And i quote. Trevor lawrence is there. Qb of the future. Now i don't know why he said this i really don't the jets at are over the on record saying if they do get the number one overall pick they will. Trade sam donald. I don't know why it is. He saying this it's that. Gm coachspeak it's pr. It's that oh we don't want to seem like the bad guy. We want to see him. Like we have is back. Look we all know the truth if they get that number one overall pick rookie contracts are so valuable. Because you're paying a you're paying a such a discounted price for a possible perennial product in. I think trevor lawrence is gonna be a premium product right. He's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the league already. He'll probably be a top fifteen quarterback and they're going to be paying him pennies on the dollar as compared to what russell wilson aaron rodgers so on and so forth are making so of course if they get the number one overall pick. They're just going to rebuild. They're just going to move on. From sam darnold though take trevor lawrence though move forward with them they'll basically have five years to try and get it right. Will they get it right. I have no idea. I think it's going to depend on the batum gays but let's go ahead and entertain this right. Let's say in some parallel universe that the jets actually go ahead and they move forward sam. Don't they have the number one overall pick and they move forward sam darnold. What is it that they have to do. How is it that they can. Kinda re boo in save sam donald career because right now if there were the trade sam donald i think they could get maybe depend on the team but if they were to get sam donald and everyone especially new like they're going to trade him like there's no way that they're possibly going to keep him. I think they could get a second round pick. I think they could get a second round pick. I think another team. The only way they get a first round pick is if a team tried to leap over another team because other than that i mean why would the team give a first round. Pick for donald. Why would they write if the player wants out if the team wants to get rid of the player. Why would we offer you anything more than than the second round. Pick or like a third round pick. Why would we offer you a premium draft pick for a player that you're not gonna use that you want your team right and i get it. It's it's a quarterback. It's a bit different. This isn't an edge rusher. This isn't a safety i get. It is different. The quarterback is the most important position on the team. If you don't have the quarterback than your team is just not going to be successful. I e the jacksonville jaguars i e of the buffalo bills right right. They have that ten and six buffalo bill team in the defense outstanding. And everything's great but josh allen. Just wasn't the guy. You can have a great team but if your quarterback isn't that dude you're not gonna get very far so i get it. A team could probably offer him a first round pick because the desperate and they think they can change him. because a lot of gm's love. Sam darnold a lot of quarterbacks in the nfl. Love sam darnold. And the moment that i realized that. Maybe this is literally just the jets. And i'm dismissing. Something with sam. Darnold was when chris collins worth during nfl broadcast. I don't remember the game. It was one of the jets bit. It was whatever game. Sam darnold had that really long touchdown run against i. Just don't was it. The broncos. I think it was against the broncos chris collins were during the game said that he had text a couple starting quarterbacks in the nfl he named who they were but he had got some texts from a few different starting quarterbacks in the nfl. I don't know how many but he said all the quarterbacks messaged him and told him people don't realize how good sam darnold really. is the jets. Have nothing around him. People don't realize how good he is. So i started to. I started to walk. Sam darnold himself and i started to watch. I looked for the little things right. Some of the throws he can make some of his playmaking in. I have noticed. This dude can move and throw with the best quarterbacks in the nfl now his decision making is is really shot. I think he makes them really poor decision. Sometimes and i think part of it is the jets in just how. They've coached him. I think the other part of it is. He knows he needs to make plays in. He makes he tries to make plays he. Shouldn't but i believe. Sam darnold and another put in another situation with a good offensive line with just even one good number one receiver. That isn't a slot receiver. I think he could do something. So let's go ahead and entertain the jets building around sam darnold number one. You need to fire adam gates. That's the first step fire adam gays. He shouldn't have the job. His highlight of his career was being the offensive coordinator for peyton manning. One of the greatest. Nfl quarterbacks of all time a top three quarterback of all time one of the smartest dudes to ever play in the nfl. That is his claim to fame being the offensive coordinator for peyton manning. Woo okay awesome very impressive. What have you done without him. Literally nothing you had one winning season with the dolphins your first year there and then everything fell apart and things have completely fallen apart with the jets. I think number one you need to you. Need the fire. Adam gates number two if i was the jets honestly i would move on from z. Moseley you're paying him a lot of money. He barely played his first year there. He hasn't played the second year at all because he opted out. I think you need to get rid of c. J. moseley trade him away. There was another team out there. That would love to have him because when he's on the field he's one of the best mental linebackers in the league baltimore. I don't think they wanted to let him go. He just cost too much. So i'm sure another team would love to have. Cj moseley trade him away. What these twenty seven twenty eight. He's got a few years left on his deal. I think you can get a pick for him number three if you get that number one overall pick the number two overall pick whichever one it is traded away you could get. I believe like three or four draft picks from a desperate team in need of quarterback a team. That really really wants trevor lawrence. I think you could get a hall for that pick. Maybe not picks player. I don't think that they would go that far. But if you wanted like four draft picks for for this year and next year or even all this year. I think you can do it. The jets already have a good amount of draft picks for this coming draft. I firmly believe they could get a hall for that number one overall pick and then what you do. Is you work on that offensive line. Maybe you go in the free agency and you go get him a receiver. I don't know if anyone's going to necessarily be available but look somewhere for a receiver and you find a good head coach. Maybe eric be enemy. Maybe brian daboll find. Find somebody who was brilliant on offense who can work with sam darnold. Who can work with a mobile quarterback that has a great arm who just needs some pieces who just needs some decent coaching. I think of the jets can do that. For sam donald. They can attempt to save him in. They can attempt to really validate using that third overall. Pick on him because when they drafted him there were still a lot of people out there who thought they took the best quarterback in the draft. And it's kind of funny right. We look at it now. And there was an argument to be made that the two quarterbacks who everyone thought we're going to be the worst are the best josh allen and lamar jackson and the due to wet number one number two and then. What was rosen number ten. They're the worst. Rosen is the worst of the bunch. Because he's on the practice squad even on a roster anymore. Maybe it's unfair to judge him. I think it kind of is. I don't think he's gotten a fair shot. So maybe we'll go. We'll leave him out of it. But that means between baker and sam darnold and i think baker has performance has been better but he's been surrounded by other pieces than darnold and donald his from his grade. He's not far behind. It's really interesting. How that draft has panned out it. It's bakers rookie year. He looked incredible like he was a far away. The best quarterback in the draft. And now we're not even sure if he's going to make it to the next year with his team. Neither sam donald. It's very interesting. How the nfl Speaking of young quarterbacks needing to be built around. There's another young quarterback in the game who's already been paid and now he's in the rebuild and this is just as fourth year. The shawn watson came into the league on fire instantly looked like a hit and he was doing it behind one of the worst offensive lines and football and with bill. O'brien as his head coach. Which if you look at all the lists ranking the best head coaches coming into the season bill. O'brien numerous on numerous lists was either the very last coach or he was like in the bottom five. That is what people thought the bill. O'brien in the texans. They went ahead and fired him. And and again. I wanted to be fair. The bill o'brien villa bryan college. He did a great job and he comes to the nfl. And whether you want blame it on this division or whatever the case may be. He did a good job in houston. I think the problem with bill. O'brien is he just started to bite off more than he could chew. He tried to play head coach and general manager in. he just didn't do himself any favors. But the shawn watson has been incredible since he entered the league which is why houston paid him early. because he's benson. The sean wanted outside of his rookie year. He has had pro. football focus. Grades of eighty point nine. Eighty two point seven and this year in a year. The texans are horrible. He's posting up in eighty six point three. I believe he. He's a top ten quarterback this year as he's graded and i believe he is. I think he's like number seven number six on the list like this shawn watson. is that guy. He is that dude he fits today's nfl. He's phenomenal and just think it's such a shame that houston has done such a disservice. He comes into the league with an already pretty bad offensive line but they had dwayne brown. They then traded duane brown to seattle because of a political difference between he and the owner. They got rid of him. So all of a sudden have left tackle. Then they trade a hall to miami for their left tackle who they still needed to pay so then they paid him a alot the money and they didn't have any picks and all of a sudden they traded the way deondraye hopkins for nothing and they say the wage on clowney for nothing and they drafted another tackle and howard and he is he and tonsil or two guys who were labeled as untouchable. So like you have to tackles who. You're hoping are going to be great. Tunsil is great. You're hoping howard turns into that. The rest of the offensive line is still kind of shaky. You train for david johnson. You treated for duke johnson. You traded for brandin cooks. You wouldn't trae the will fuller you wouldn't trade. Jj watt you. Look at this team now. They're at the bottom of the vision or or at least they're fighting for it with jacksonville as to who was going to be the worst team. I never thought heading into the season. I did not think houston was going to be as bad as jacksonville. I have never thought that. If you told me that i would have said. Oh the shawn watson get hurt. Oh no oh. He's still healthy. Oh the team is just terrible. I think the texans have completely mismanaged it. And i feel bad for for for the ownership because it's not their fault. Well i mean. I don't know it's kind of their fault. They should not have made bill. O'brien the gm. They fired their gm and then they didn't hire one they made bill. O'brien the gm. For whatever reason. I don't know why i know. They were very very fond of him and they liked him but i don't know what they thought about his qualifications made him the potential to be a good gm. I just don't understand that. The houston texans right now are in a rebuilding mode now. The good news for the houston. Texans is they have the most important piece on their team the shawn watson. they've got the guy that is the most important piece of all of this is at least they have the quarterback now just comes to surrounding him. You've got left tackle. that's outstanding. You've got a right tackle who you're really hoping pans out. You're really like him anti this howard. You hope that pans out. okay cool. So you've got your quarterback you've got your tackles eating the fix the the center of the offensive line but but the most important pieces are the tackles so whether the texans go from here i have a few moves that they need to make to start building around the shawn watson again and doing it correctly number. One is find a general manager. A lot of people would say. Find the head coach. You need to find a general manager because they need to like the head coach. You can't pair a head coach and general manager who never worked together. Because that's just not how you do it. That's not how you build a team. Find the general manager. I and i don't have any candidates in my mind or anything like that. Maybe louis riddick always like louis riddick on the espn. I think he deserves a spot as a general manager of a team. But it is whatever Find the general manager from there. You find the head coach again. I think a guy. Like the enemy. Like brian daboll. I think would be outstanding for the job. Find one of them from that point on trade away. You're older expensive players. I e. Jj watt guys like whitney mercilus trade them away if you wanna keep mercilus fine but if anybody should be traded away it's jj watt and jj watt went on record and. I'm sure this kind of houston's are and i'm sure broke the texans but he said essentially please please trade me. Please do something with me. I don't wanna be here. This is what j. J. watt said quote. I don't think it's any secret that i don't have ten years left in this league. I personally that. I do have a few more great ones left end. But i'm not looking to rebuild. I'm looking to go to a champion of to go after a championship in. That's what i want to do so. Jj watt age. What is he now. Three thirty one thirty two something like that. Jj watt wants to go to a team that can contend same as a guy like ryan kerrigan over in washington number. Thirty year old player. He's been outstanding his entire career. As an edge rusher he's been so consistently dominant and washington didn't want to trade him in. It's the same thing with houston they didn't wanna trade. Jj watt and. They didn't even want to. Trade will fuller bad enough. I don't get it i get. This is something that's always irritated me when a player when you're a bad team in you have an aging player who still has value. Why would you not trade. The player. I get emotions can get in the way but when it comes to this business you're supposed to avoid the emotional aspect of it. You're supposed to do what's best for the team if the texans really love. Jj watt and they want the best for him because he's done so much for houston and his his Raising money for hurricane harvey in everything. I mean i get. Jj watt is a stalwart of the houston. Texans and they'll probably go down as the greatest houston texans player of all time. Trade him away in the off season move his contract. You're paying him. Like seventeen million. That is far too much for an older defensive lineman. Jj watt is still good. And i think you should give him the chance to go to a contender. Either you trade him away and get something for him or you release him one of the two and i think you do the same thing with whitney mercilus someone out there would love the have whitney mercilus. And other older edge rusher will fuller. I think you kinda lost the opportunity to train him at you. I think is i think he's in the last year of his deal. I think they of lost their opportunity to trade him. I don't know if they're going to re sign him. I don't know if i would resign him because he can't stay healthy. But i mean at that point. What are you leaving shawn watson with. Brandin cooks another guy who can't stay healthy with randall. Cobb another guy who consistently has been her in his career. I don't know i. They have not done the shawn watson any favors and they don't have any picks they don't have any good picks which is another thing that kind of blew my mind as to. Why would they not trade will fuller. Why would they not trade. Just one of these guys. You'll have a i you'll have a second. I don't think they have. I next year or a second next year in. This is all bill. O'brien's fault he's kinda screwed the texans over when it comes to rebuilding in the next couple of years and guys like jj watt and. I think there's other guys in the locker who probably feel the same way. There's some guys on that team who are not looking to rebuild right now. So if they want to rebuild around the shawn watson and they want to really make this team in his image find the gm find the head coach trade away. You're older expensive players in. It's going to mean parting ways with. Jj watt and. I know what's going to break the heart of texans fans. There will probably be a big emotional goodbye. I'm sure the next time. Jj watt was to face houston in houston's arena. I'm sure the fans would go wild for him. But it's what you gotta do. It's the price of doing business. You can't let emotions get in the way that's the one thing. Bill belichick always did rate with new england. Is he never let his emotions get in the way of making a trade or cutting player he never let it get in the way he was willing to trade brady. He was willing to trade the goat all so that his team would be better off in the future. That's what the houston texans need to do. So i think the jets if they want to go ahead and rebuild around. Sam darnold you can do it. It's gonna take firing your head. Coach trading the pick trading. Moseley move the from there when it comes to houston. Find your gm find your head coach. Trae jj watt trade. Whitney mercilus start getting young inexpensive talent on the team and go from there. You have your left tackle. You've got your right tackle supposedly you we all know you have your quarterback move forward from there. Any was coming up next. We're gonna talk about the forty niners because they are just a very strange team. And i think they're going to be the very very interesting situation. This offseason and i don't know where they're gonna go. If i really think about that coming up next are you looking for help for your fantasy football team. Check out the gsm see fantasy football. Podcast get ten east best advice on who to start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper. Pick red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's gsm see podcast. Dot com fantasy dash football dash odd cast. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty few pr. Even i dp when you need fantasy help. There's just one show up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gmc podcast dot com for more info. Welcome back to the gmc football podcast. Last segment talked about building around young quarterbacks. And i brought up sam donald shawn watson the jets if they do decide the bill around sam donald. It's all going to start with firing adam gays in trading with number one overall. Pick think aside no is you. Trade away cj. I think you can still get something for him. I don't think he wants to play for the jets. He hasn't played. He didn't play early first year with all because of injury and then his second year he opted out. I think you can get something for him. That is how you building around. Sam donald for the texans. Find your gm find your head. Coach trade away older expensive players like jj watt. It'll be emotional. It's not something. I think anybody wants to do. But it is the best decision. If you want to put the shawn watson in the best position moving forward with that being said. Let's get into team. That is going to probably be in the market for a new quarterback this off season. The forty niners. The forty niners are really really weird team. And there's a lot of people who are out on jimmy garoppolo in their out on him for the same reason as to a guy like me would be out on him. And it's because i've seen jimmy garoppolo in these games and i've seen how kyle shanahan calls plays now him being in a run oriented. Offense isn't anything new right. We've seen other teams or doing the same thing right. The browns they've had a run oriented offense. The seattle seahawks for years and years and years had a run oriented offense. The panthers had a run oriented offense around cam newton. We've seen it before. But what does that tell you. It's not just the team has a really really good running back. But in a lotta. These situations look at the quarterbacks and look at what their deficiencies are what is cam. Newton's deficiency is his passing. That is his weakest point. He's a better runner than is thrower. Baker mayfield. What is his weak point. Passing and his running isn't really much better. What is jimmy. Garoppolo's weakest point. He's a better runner than he is thrower but his decision making with the football sometimes is very very suspect. They already limit his throws in an offense and yet he still manages every single year. At least this past year when he was a full time starter he still manages to be in the top ten for turnovers even though they limit his chances to throw it in the playoffs he had a game where i think he threw nine times. What was it was it the nfc championship game or the game. Before one of the two games. I think it might have been a championship game. He threw at nine times. That is what kyle shanahan thinks of him. And then in the super bowl. And i reiterated this before i'll say it again in the super bowl the chiefs are starting to make a bit of a comeback kyle. Shanahan tried to put the ball in jimmy garoppolo hands to deliver them from evil and he couldn't do it. He had emmanuel sanders wide. Open for a touchdown it probably would have been the game-breaker and he missed him. He overthrew him by like five yards. Jimmy garoppolo he's just not that guy at least it doesn't seem like he's that guy in it doesn't seem like kyle shanahan thinks he's that guy but here's the weird thing about the forty niners so in two thousand seventeen kyle. Shanahan was one in ten until he got garoppolo. They finished that season six and ten in twenty eighteen. He went one and two jimmy. Garoppolo jimmy robbo got her. He went three and ten down the stretch then in two thousand nineteen. Jimmy garoppolo was healthy for the entire season. They go thirteen and three they get to the super bowl and they have a ten point lead in the fourth quarter against patrick mahomes. He threw another interception a chance to win it. And maybe you blame jimmy garoppolo. Maybe you blame. Kyle shanahan for once again. Not doing what they do. Best which is run the football he decided to continue the throw it for whatever reason and they lost the and then this season would jimmy garoppolo. He's three and two overall. He has four and five. Because jimmy garoppolo has missed a couple of games. So basically what. I'm saying is for whatever reason without jimmy garoppolo kyle. Shanahan doesn't win. Whether it's beth mcmullan. Whoever this who's in a quarterback. I think nick molins can actually of play a little bit Who no matter what. They don't win kyle. Shanahan has a losing record without jimmy garoppolo. I think overall still he still has a losing record. And i'm not gonna go as far as to say that that cow shanahan's job is in jeopardy. I don't want to go to that. I don't wanna go to. He's on the hot seat because they gave him an extension. He just went to the super bowl his team right now. We're still very very competitive. They've been snake bitten with injuries just to name a few of them. D ford richard sherman. Nick boasts solomon tom as kendrick bourne. Devaux samuels trent williams. All of a sudden he's l. because he's on the he was on the covid lists and coleman he's been in now and it's just been a mess it really has been a mess for the forty niners garoppolos in and out of the lineup of injury kindle. He's in and out now he's out for maybe the rest of the season. We don't know this is just not been there year. So i don't think cow shanahan's job is in jeopardy. I do think that they're going to look to move on from jimmy garoppolo. Because there's only so many times you can. You can go forward with a quarterback who can't stay healthy. There's only so many times you can go forward with a quarterback who not only can't stay healthy but who's decision making. Isn't that great right. I think philadelphia is kind of in that same position carson wentz. He doesn't really stay healthy and his decision. Making isn't that great. And i and and i don't know maybe from my perspective from a talent perspective i think carson wentz is better than jimmy garoppolo but his recent play. I can't back it up. I can't say with his recent play. He's jimmy garoppolo. I think he has more talent more ability. His ceiling is higher. But he's not playing it about jimmy garoppolo. I think the book is kind of out on them. You know what he is. If you if you try and make jimmy garoppolo beat you throwing the football. Sometimes he can do it in sometimes. He can but more often than not it seems like he can't he's a guy who kinda needs his run game he needs great play calling. He needs his guys to be open because otherwise he's going to turn the football over you can guarantee he will throw the ball to the defense at least twice a game. It just comes down to the defense on if they can make a play for the football so it makes me think what exactly should the forty niners do. Because i think without jimmy garoppolo. I don't know if this team has much of a future. It didn't have any future even before. Jimmy garoppolo right kyle. Shanahan gets there in. The team wasn't really even competitive. They just weren't remember. They were one in ten. They just were even competitive as soon as they got. Jimmy garoppolo all of a sudden they're undefeated and then the next season. They saw that one and two. It wasn't great but then garoppolo got hurt. They face them really tough teams. Garoppolo gets hurt. You go three ten down the stretch and then people were kind of thinking themselves. Okay so a shanahan. The guy what are we. What are we going to do here. And then jim ellis. Healthy takes you to the super bowl. And he's just such an interesting quarterback for me. he's just such an interesting quarterback. I've never seen a team. Kind be so out on a quarterback when he is almost realistically the only reason you win. Has there ever been the situation like that before May maybe the buffalo bills with doug flutie. Doug flutie he when he was in there. The team was good it but they didn't really want him in there. They wanted his the other guy in there. I can't remember his name. But maybe with doug flutie situation jimmy garoppolo. He seems to be the only reason this team has ever read any games and they seem to be completely out so i look at the forty niners heading into this off season. And i'm like okay. What moves exactly is it that they need to make well number one. They need to get a good number one wide receiver. Because they don't seem to have it. I don't think it's devaux samuels I think he he's if anything he's like a number two. He's a jet sweep guy. He's a number two receiver. I think he's i think he's a lot of talent. Maybe he can surprise me right because a lot of people didn't think a guy like tyreek hill was the number one receiver. He has shown when he is used properly. And obviously he's trained. He's worked on his route running. He's worked on all that he is a number one receiver in the chiefs offense and another place. maybe not but the isn't number one receiver. Maybe deal samuels could turn into that. I have no idea. They did draft. Euch but i think they need to find a big number one wide receiver for whoever the quarterback is. They've got george kittle. That's great they've got a pretty solid offensive line. It's when it's healthy. It's really good. That's fine running back wise. I think that is the area that the niners need to figure out what it is that they're doing because there was a point in time where they had the moster they had brita. And i think they had wilson there and they had this trio of running backs that were all very very productive under kyle shanahan and then all of a sudden they know when they pay jerick mckinnon a lot of money and he gets her any mrs two straight years and then they went and they threw money at tevin coleman and he comes in and he's been fine but he wasn't even their main back last year that was actually moster who took over that role and then even this year when most it's been healthy. I don't know that that that's the one area of the team. I think they've really messed up on. But the biggest thing is going to figure out what to do at quarterback because the niners. I don't think they're a bad team. I think the niners are just really banged up. I think once they get healthy again. This team will once again be ready to make a super bowl. I think they have the same kind of roster as a team like the colts as a team. Like a wake. what's another what's not unlike. Maybe the broncos when they're fully healthy. I mean they have a roster that is set to compete right now. The thing that they just need is the quarterback. They got the head coach. They have the defense. Wanna tell the they have the run game when it's healthy and their offense is very very creative. The motion the disguising of things. It's great it's outstanding. The only thing that needs to be fixed is the quarterback spot in so that's one that brings to if they were to move on from jimmy garoppolo who they go after in names have been brought up like matt ryan or like kirk cousins because shanahan has worked with both of them in remember before jimmy garoppolo. There was the rumor that was out. There that went kirk cousins became a free agent. Shanahan was going to reach out to kirk cousins to come to the niners because he likes kirk. He likes what he can do. He can work with him matt ryan. Now he's being brought up. He's still owed a lot of money by atlanta. So i don't know if they're going to want to trade him this off because it would be a big cap hit. But he's another guy who under kyle shanahan had one of the most efficient and ridiculous offensive seasons of of all time that atlanta team. That offense was ridiculous and no defense could stop. Even patriots through three quarters could not stop their offense. The only thing that could stop that offense was kyle shanahan and again in the this year in the super bowl niners chiefs it was kyle shanahan. That stopped the offense. But i wanna throw this out there. I think there's two possible quarterbacks who the niners could look at this offseason one of them is dak prescott in the other sam darnold. Now let me explain the dak prescott point of view dallas. I do not believe is going to re-sign back prescott in the reason being is because when you look at their remaining schedule the vikings washington the ravens the bengals the niners the eagles the cowboys Guys what guaranteed wins. Do they have on that. Ross on that schedule. I think they could lose to the vikings i think they could lose again to washington because their defense is too good. I think they could lose. I think they'll get blown out by the ravens. I think they could easily lose to the bengals. I think the niners are still better than them. The eagles they had four turnovers and they still couldn't beat the eagles. Now andy owned by that point in time. I'm sure he'd be back but are we going to say. It's a guaranteed walk through and the giants for the last game of the season. The giants defense has been good in daniel. Jones is good enough to wear like hill. Turn the ball over to you. But he's good enough he could make some throws in run to make some plays like he could make that game really really interesting. They barely beat the giants last time. There is a good chance the cowboys win. Maybe one more game one or two more games and they have a top five. Pick in this coming draft and there are maybe four quarterbacks there's trae lance there's trevor lawrence there's justin fields and then there's the kid at byu. There is a good chance. Dallas is going to draft a quarterback and will move on from dak prescott. So i think that the niners could realistically make a run for that prescott. You trade jimmy garoppolo. Get that contract off your books. Go sign that preska. I think he'd be an incident of great over. Jimmy garoppolo and i think they'd instantly become a contender again. And then i say sam darnold kyle shanahan his offense around sam darnold a guy who i mean. He has been turned over. Like i get it right. It's really hard to kind of. Make this argument sam donald because when you look at his statistics and everything. It's just not good but you look at what the jets are working with. You look at what. He's had the work with their entire career. Who has had coaches are the talent that he has. I think kyle shanahan could use it to perfection. And i think he'd be able to coach the mistakes of the sam darnold use around him with a really good run game and outstanding play calling and you put him in a chance. In a in a position to succeed they wouldn't have to instantly pay him. He'd still have a year and then the fifth year option on his contract like i. I really think there is a possibility. The niners could make a trade for sam darnold and i would be here for it. And now it'd be a nightmare for the nfc west in the nfc. West quarterbacks are gonna be russell wilson jared goff sam darnold and cuyler murray four guys that realistically can all play in the nfl for years and years in us to come. Wilson is still young column. Hasn't even reached the second contract yet. Jared goff is still in his twenty s and then sam darnold. He's still a baby in the nfl. Who has yet to even really be given a fair shot to play or up to even compete. And i think the niners right. Now want to compete. So maybe they wouldn't necessarily go from san don looks. I don't know of sam. Darnold is ready to compete at that level. Either like i don't know he hasn't been in the playoffs he has. That pressure is like yet and obviously you never know what the pressure is like until you get it. But i mean that prescott has been to the playoffs. He's won a playoff game albeit a fluky game. He played a seattle team. That was still trying to run the football too much So dak prescott. He's been in the fire before he's played in this league at a very high level higher than any level. Sam darnold has ever dreamed about playing so far. So maybe they make the movement for that prescott. He will be a free agent and he'll be looking to get paid and you know i don't think they'll be able to necessarily get them at a discounted price. I just don't think those days exist anymore. You're gonna have to pay these. Quarterbacks upmost four million dollars a year. I don't think that prescott will set a new record. But if they're not going to make a trade for kirk cousins which this season is not exactly panning itself out for anyone to want to trade for kirk cousins. And if he doesn't make a trade for matt ryan who better than to go for kirk cousins. Because i think the niners are still going to be too good to have a top five pick. I don't think they're going to get that. I think dallas is bad enough to get a top five. Pick so make the move over that prescott. I think it'd be good. I think he'd work really really well. Locale shanahan. I think they would have a much more dynamic offense. He's more of an athlete. He can move. I think he has arm. He has a decision making. I just think it is a match. That could really work anyways. Coming up next evolution. The rookie quarterback slavery interesting. We've seen guys like dwayne. Haskins and josh rosen and two of the leash is kinda short now a days and it used to be that way my topic of the day. There are some excuses being thrown out in the nfl and people. They don't ever like to hear excuses. But guys we gotta be honest sometimes. Excuses are valid. That coming up later. Michaud check out the show. That's built on the mma from ufc. Two extreme cage. Fighting they got the fights covered. Check out the gsm see mma. Podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we've talked to in about some of the biggest names in 'em past present and future when it's the fight game there's just one show to check out gs nc. Podcast dot com backslash. Mame dash podcast. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter busy. Gs mc podcast dot com for more info interest. Welcome to the smc. Mc football podcast. Last segment talked about the forty niners. In the fact that i mean they wanna move on from jimmy garoppolo. I think everyone can see the writing on the wall. Jimmy garoppolo is not going to be there long term. The cow shanahan has seemed to quit on him. He show that what the play calling Whether it be in the during the whole season last year and then into the playoffs only throwing nine times in a game. I think it goes to show cow. Shanahan doesn't believe in them. Jimmy garoppolo was her again for the second time just this season so i think the route on them. But what's really strange is without jimmy garoppolo. The team doesn't win so it's like. Is he good. Do they need just a little. Bit above average quarterback. Play to be a good team. Like i. I don't know but i think for the niners have a roster right now. That is ready to compete. I think they need if anything they need. Some help it receiver and maybe Maybe another offensive linemen. Maybe a cornerback. But other than that. This team i think is ready to compete. And they have some options. This offseason right. They could always try. And make a run at kirk cousins or matt ryan but i think they should really look at a guy like that prescott. I don't think the cowboys are gonna resign him. I think the cowboys are gonna look in the draft. Cause i think they're going to be bad enough to get a pick. They're in if they are dak. Prescott will not be back. And i think kyle shanahan should take a shot at him so anyways. It's going to get into this so the evolution of the rookie. Cornerback right nowadays. I think we all kind of see it rookie. Quarterbacks do not get much leeway nowadays if you don't show immediate flashes of greatness in your rookie year teams are already kind of out on you. We've seen it. Would dwayne haskins. We've seen that with josh rosen. The window for teams to maximize their chances at super bowls. Five years you get the four main years of a rookie contract and you get a fifth year option. If their first round pick you have that limited window in the nafta that you gotta pay the guy so you look at a team like the seattle seahawks. There's still a really good team because their quarterback is probably the best in the league. But they're paying russell wilson which means you can't always afford a great left tackle. You can't always afford the number one right wide receiver that is when you need to nail the draft and more importantly you need to nail your late around picks because if 'cause assuming you're team is still kinda good you're going to be in the lower twenties you won't be able to get those blue chip prospect unless a guy falls to you or he's just an absolute gem you need nail your second your third or fourth round picks that is something that pete carroll really made his name on his first few years in the league he was able to draft a guy like russell. Wilson like bobby wagner like kam. Chancellor like richard sherman. He was able to get some of these guys in the later rounds and they were instant hits in some of it is because he saw them in college because at that point he was a college coach and some of it is just luck and some of it is. You just know it when you see it. And then especially goes for quarterbacks you just know it when you see it and some of these guys like here. I have some examples of rookie seasons. Right so i think nowadays in this nfl. I think if a rookie was to have this kind of season it can no longer work. Matt stafford who i think. Most people look at right now as he's not really a winner. he's a five hundred quarterback. But when you look at his arm in his ability to throw the football people say he's one of the best in the league has one of the best arms in the league. He's one of the best pass. Who's in the league. The thing is he doesn't win. It's a lot of garbage time. Stats everything like that. But matt stafford rookie year member. He was the number one overall pick. He played ten games. Because i think he got hurt but he completed fifty three percents of his passes for twenty two hundred yards thirteen touchdowns and twenty picks nowadays if a rookie has that kind the season they're done and i don't think it's because the i don't think is because of any fall over the quarterback necessarily right. It's their first season. I might be one of the last few people on this island. I still believe that these younger quarterbacks need need two or three seasons to really figure out the speed of the nfl to really figure out defenses. Matt patrick mahomes and say he figured out how the reader defense until midway through his third year other than that he was doing it. Just on pure ability and the play calling andy reid and eric the enemy and the pieces around him other than that. He didn't even really know how to read a defence. He it took him until the middle of year three. Some of these guys just need some time and they have the talent to make it work. They can. But i think the reason. Why is that. A quarterback can't have a season like matt stafford. Did his rookie. Year is because the hit rate is so high. Now i don't have the total number of quarterbacks drafted since two thousand twelve. But when i think about quarterbacks drafted since two thousand twelve that can force sure play in the nfl. I mean let's just think about it. Russell wilson ryan tannehill kirk kirk cousins andrew luck obviously now retired by andrew luck robert griffin. The third could play. Nick foles has shown he can play when he's in the in the perfect system which apparently seems to only be in philadelphia but he shown in the perfect system. he can play a patrick mahomes. Lamar jackson does shawn watson jameis. Winston mario the show that he could play when the team actually kind of gave him a chance to run the offense that that caters to his skill set cuyler murray jared goff dak prescott carson wentz. I mean these guys have all shown at least at some point or another for more than one season for more than two seasons for more than three seasons that they can actually play at a really decent level in the nfl and they can be a top ten. A top half of the league quarterback some of them. It's taken them a bit longer ryan. Tannehill take took him a bit longer. kirk cousins took a bit. But they've shown they can be or close to e elite franchise quarterbacks in the nfl. The hit rate is just too good anymore to sit around with me the ochre and so when you look at a team like the browns or like the bills moving forward like the forty niners. I think they kind of look at the quarterback situations. And they're like man. If we can upgrade i mean. We shouldn't we upgrade if we can upgrade from josh allen. Show that we move on from baker. Sure that we jimmy garoppolo show the we same thing for the jets. They get the number one overall. Pick gonna just move on from from sam donald right. The hit rate is just too good in. That is why. I think to what is going to get the remainder of the season to either sink or swim in. If he doesn't show the dolphins any of the things that made them want to draft him. I believe they will move on from him because they have houston's first round pick and right now it's in the top five in houston just doesn't look like a good team benenson games and they found ways to lose them. They're they're just not a good team right now with is a top five. Pick and brian came out and he said that to isn't an audition right because some people were asking him. Oh will you move on from him. If he doesn't show any flashes this season will you do that and he said no. He thought it'd be ridiculous. You know to only give him the remainder of the season. It's not an audition. They're starting in boba. And of course we've talked about. How strange situation is because the dolphins right now are fighting really for a playoff spot like like a given the rector then given the position of the rest of the afc and their vision. They're fighting for a playoff spot in fitzpatrick was playing really really good Still among the leaders in turnover so you is bring up that. There's always that time for him to have the fitzpatrick game where he throws like two hundred yards no touchdowns and five picks and they get blown out. It's only a matter of time. But they pulled him and they put into. It is rare that a team ever pulls out a quarterback when the team is winning. And you put in your rookie. Who has been unproven. Who's coming off of a catastrophic injury. You never quite know what. I think he was put in. Because you see joe burrow and you see justin. Herbert in you see what they've been doing and they felt pressured to put them in and see what they got. I think that the texans pick only added more pressure. The dolphins have a good amount of picks coming up. They've got a good defense. They seem to have their head coach. They the only thing they need is they need the find. The quarterback now terry bradshaw. I think he went on the herd and he said he thinks to was going to be excellent. He said he told calling. Don't give up onto. He thinks to what is going to be excellent. So i'm in the way. And i'm going to look for and i'm gonna watch him the rest of the season if i don't catch the game i'm the catch the highlights out try and find the recording of the game. I'm going to watch too. And i want to see how much improvement i see from him week to week to week. Because there's only so long that the team can lose right. You can only be in rebuild mode for so long sooner or later. The head coach needs to win if they want to keep their job so even as good as we think. Brian flores is sooner or later the dolphins need to win on a consistent basis and right now this division is to be had the patriots. They don't have a quarterback right now. They know who their quarterback is going to be the jets. They might have their quarterback. They might not their quarterback might be in this coming draft. Their quarterback in this coming draft might force his way out of the team. We have no clue The the bills were not entirely sure. Where they're gonna go with josh allen. Josh allen is a roller coaster. Some games he's up some games. He's down while he has the season than he has ever been before he's still very very inconsistent and basically since that four game stretch at the beginning season he hasn't been quite the same player. The league has kind of figure them out. It's just down to the dolphins again. They've got the defense. They got the head coach. Some of their offensive players opted out of the season like devante. Parker is excellent. Gets seki is excellent. Their offensive line needs to be fixed. They seem to have found some running backs. So it's just it really does come down to and we're going to judge if we just look at every single rookie quarterback this season and we look at their first games. Herbert was awesome. Borough was awesome. Tua was erratic. He didn't have any of the accuracy. Even his one touchdown throw. i personally. Didn't think it was great. I thought he put it in a in a nice spot but it could have easily been picked in my opinion don't know to. His debut was not as impressive. So we'll see how he looks the rest of the season. But you're telling me this dolphins team with the division as wide open as it is. You're telling me if this team manages to get a a pick from from from houston if they manage to get that pick and it's in the top five and they have a chance to take one of these four quarterbacks. You really don't think that that florez in in everyone will just say all right. We made a mistake time. Move on dwayne. Haskins got ten games ten or eleven games. He and in his eleven starts his stats. Were completely identical to josh allen. Now josh allen was obviously more mature he wasn't showboating in gloating. Like dwayne haskins was so that is why he lost his job. Josh rosen. his rookie. Season was not good. No part of it looked impressive. The team around him was terrible but they went ahead and said we made a mistake. Were done in. They moved off of him nowadays. If you don't show you have it early. The team is already looking for your replacement. And you can blame guys like ben rothlisberger or matt ryan or russell wilson or patrick mahomes or dak prescott or shawn watson. You can blame those kinds of players. Because as soon as they came into the league even if their overall stats didn't look super impressive their teams their teams one. They showed the upside in these. Are the guys who really set the tone for teams trying to maximize the rookie contract by by surrounding them. With high priced free agents getting the best player possible nail you know nailing the draft hopefully but paying everybody signing all your good players. You don't need to let anybody go and you maximize that window. You got five years. You can blame those guys for the way. It's gone because nowadays. You cannot afford to have as a rookie. Season like jared goff. Then you can't afford to have a rookie season like matt stafford. Then like josh rosen. Did like basically dwayne haskins did. You can't afford it anymore if you don't show even a glimpse of being elite even show a glimpse of the upside that is their these teams are ready to move on from you because there is a shelf life to everybody. There's a window to win and if you're not going to help them out whether you therefore and again don't get me wrong. I don't think it's fair. It isn't fair to me. It's not fair that rookie. Quarterback's nowadays get basically a season. Maybe two to be successful and to prove to the team that they are the guy that they should start to build the team around whereas guys like blaine gabbert and christian ponder in jake locker they managed to get one to three seasons before the team's kind of looked at them and said Yeah all right. Yeah no no. They're not the guy whereas these other guys they they put up even more impressive numbers than them and the in today's nfl and yet the teams don't look at them and go. I don't know. I don't know if they're the guy but it is the way that the league is moving and i do understand that i do get it. The league is so ofensive leaning that in there are so many quarterback camps and in the college schemes are being implemented in the nfl able to translate even easier and forget about the speed in the nfl. You should just be able to play in it. I get it. But i still don't think it's fair but then again life isn't fair fair as a place where you go in judge pigs and that is not the nfl anyways coming up next final topic of the day. We're gonna talk about excuses being made in the nfl. I some people might say their excuses in that. they're not valid. Ain't nobody wants to hear excuses. Ever as to why it is. The team is performing well. But in this case. I think the excuses are valid. We will get into that coming up next. The show built around the women of mma from the ufc to the extreme cage. Fighting we got the fights. Cover the golden state media. Concepts women's may podcast. The latest news of upcoming flights discussions previous matches join us as we talk to in about the biggest names. Women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's fight game you know we're to listen to the golden state media concepts women's mma podcast Payment may welcome the gmc football podcast. Last segment talked about the evolution of the rookie quarterback how rookie quarterbacks used to be able to come into the nfl and they could struggle for one to sometimes even three seasons. They didn't necessarily even have to look a super impressive improvement wise year to year to year. Team seem to kind of just give them a chance. Because the hit rate on quarterbacks wasn't that great when you drafted your guy you wanted to give him a fair shot. Nowadays the hit rate is so much higher and the college schemes have made it so much easier and the offense in general in the league is so much easier that if you don't come into this league and look even remotely like maybe the third second best quarterback in your vision if you don't look competent if you can't come in and look electric kyle. Murray in your offense comes alive if you can't look like russell wilson his rookie year. If you can't come in and look like that. And you look like jared goff or a christian ponder or blaine gabbert or even matthew stafford the teams are already looking for your replacement in. It's just how it is. So when i look at two and i hear brian flora's comment saying This isn't an audition one. This isn't an audition no to was our guy to was our starter. We plan to have them next season. Maybe maybe maybe would. But if he doesn't show the flashes for you now you get a top five. Pick from houston. There is no way that they're gonna pass on the opportunity to draft one of these four quarterbacks in the top. I don't know if the byu kid is going to be a top ten pick. I don't know where he's projected the be at. But i know that pro. Football focus thinks. He's a first round talent so we'll see what happens there but you know if the dolphins get a chance to draft like justin fields or trey lance. There's no way they're gonna pass a bonnet. I just don't i just don't believe it but anyway the topic of the day so i i'm i'm one of these people. I don't really like excuses. But i think there's a difference between bad excuses and good excuses right. A bad excuse would be well. Why are you late to this. Meaning oh i needed to go get my car washed really that you need. You need to get your car washed right now before the meeting. It couldn't wait bad excuse but if you say something like oh well. My wife went into labor. I needed to drive to the hospital. That is a good excuse for you to be late to your meeting or hell for you even miss your meeting that a way better. Excuse not everybody likes them but sometimes things just happen. Life is crazy like that. It is unpredictable. You never quite know what's gonna happen. You don't know what's happening in someone else's life. They don't know what's happening in your life. Things just happen and especially when the pertains to the nfl people hate excuses. People do not want to hear especially the fans people do not want to hear excuses as to why it is that your team is bad. Nobody wants to hear it at a certain point. There's only so many times you can say it's because the coach sucks. There's only so many times you can say it's because the drafting is bad. There's only so many times you can say it's because of the quarterback or whatever the case may be because the team beats itself. There's only so many times you can make an excuse before fans get restless before even the city itself can become restless and even if the excuse is kind of valid. There's only so long you could make it well. New england fans are not happy with the way new. England has played this this season. The patriots are not a good team. They're just not for the first few weeks of the season. They kinda had everybody fooled. They beat the dolphins. They took it to the wire against the seahawks. They beat the raiders in what they showed everybody was. They can still play really good defense. Cam newton is an okay enough passer to make this office work. And they're gonna make the offense a run first based offense sprinkle and some cam newton. Some rex burkhead some sony. Michelle some james. Why throw it to the running backs. Coach julian edelman nikial. Harry looked more impressive like he can actually play a little bit. They had everybody fooled. They had everybody fooled. Bill check in. December is one of the best coaches in. Nfl hit or not december in september in september bill. Bell checks one of the best coaches in. Nfl history and the thing that's made him great. Is that even later. In the season he still great. He's not one of these head coach. Mike mularkey wherein september he was outstanding. But then as the season went on he kind of became a five hundred head coach. Right when you have all the offseason to prepare for your four games in september you can drop some great game plans. You can really work on them. And for that first month you can go four now and look great but then as soon as the weeks get shorter and you have less time to prepare and there's more injuries than we're going to see what kind of head coach you are. That's kind of happened. The bill belichick this season. Except i don't think it's his fault. I don't think it's as coaching. I just think it's plain and simple. They don't have the talent bill. Belichick went on and it in an interview and the the the radio host was kind of pushing it bill. Check about him making excuses as to why it is. That new england wasn't being successful in bill. Flat out said you know. We offered cam newton a million dollars. We don't really have the money to do anything. We sold out the last three. See the last four years. We won three super bowls. We went to four and this season. We just don't have the money and there's a lot of people out there who don't like that. There's a lot of people out there that don't like that excuse and i understand why it's because bill check is not only the head coach. He's the gm he decides who gets paid. As just a matter of fact he decides who gets paid if he doesn't want to pay somebody he trades them in if you want to pay somebody he will offer them a contract. It's typically for lower value than there actually probably worth but Either you accept the deal and you play by the new england way or you move on in. He will trade you away. Chandler jones traded him away in chandler. Jones is one of the best pass rushers in the nfl has been over the last five seasons and coming into the season law. People said where's new england's pass rush. And i believe chase winovich at least for the for the first four weeks of the nfl season he had one of the best win rates in the nfl is a pass rusher so for a little bit they did. They had a bit of a pass rush but since then the defense has been good in. The offense hasn't been good in all even though about the special teams. I mean you'll maybe. The special teams units amend the best part of their team this year but The teams just kinda fallen apart. And i'm not one of these people who believes that bill belichick excuse is just that an excuse. I think it's a really reasonable excuse. And it's actually kind of a flex as well right he. We've won three super bowls. We went to four in like the last what five years we sold out. What are you complaining about is basically what he's saying is like what are you complaining about this season. Yes no. we don't really have the money. We have a lot of opt-outs. We lost our quarterback our succession. Planning jimmy garoppolo is gone because the starter went to the owner in cried. Daddy please save me. And the robert kraft finally stepped in and made bill belichick. Do something and i've already gone on recognize. Said i think cam newton. I think some of his play is because a covance. I think kobe affected them. I don't know if he's going to let anybody know if it did. But i think it did affect them and i think it's mess with play but then also i mean guys. Let's look at this. Roster i mean really what is cam newton working with. He was the offense for the first three weeks of the season. He was the offense. James wyatt is just a running back. Birkhead is just a running back. Only michelle is just a guy and a receiver in the keel. Harry is a bust in ryan izzo. Has he even caught a pass. The season i'm sure he has. But like i don't remember any memorable catch and julian edelman has become a drop machine and he's an older slot receiver. This could be a team that could have really used a tray. The for like julio jones or odell beckham if he didn't get hurt right. This team needs a receiver. They need help on defense again. They thought about trading stefan gilmore. He had his house for sale and he said that all offers needed to be in by that tuesday for the trade deadline. That is where this new england team is and look is it bill. Bell checks fall. Sure sure for the last few seasons. He has sold out every single year. An has tried to win a superbowl. He has tried to maximize the end of brady's career. He's tried to maximize their when he did. He won three super bowls and went to four in five seasons in fans are going to look at this team now and they're gonna say. Oh bill belichick really. Isn't that great. Oh well this is just excuses this jet. That is ridiculous bill. Belichick is probably the best head coach in the nfl. I think he's the best head coach in. Nfl history and sure right now. Tom brady. he's one. He's one two debates one. He's not done playing and number two. It's not bill. Bella checks system. That made tom brady great. It's not his system. Tom brady is just a good quarterback. Okay he's one those two debates now. We will wait and see. If tom brady can get two and win a super bowl if he can even just get to one. That will be awesome. It's a feather in his cap. If brady can get to another super bowl and the next two three years if he decides to stay for a third year in tampa bay we never know and bill. Belichick can't get to one the remainder of time. He's a head coach. Then i guess we will finally know who to give all the credit to or not all the credit but we know who to give the majority of the credit to and we'll have to give it to tom. Brady i still think they share a lot of the credit. I still think if not for bill belichick. Tom brady wouldn't have all the rings. Bill is one of the greatest defensive minds in. nfl history in year in and year out. He has given tom brady. Top-ten top. five top two defenses to go to go along with tom. Brady's willingness to not turn over the football and just take what the defense gives him take the check down. Take the easy pass just for the first down that trying to go for a bomb they were a great pairing and because of this great pairing. They both had a lot of success. I'm not ready to save one deserves more credit than the other. If you made me pick right now. I would say tom brady but long term. I don't know man man. Give bill belichick a chance to even just get this roster back together give bill belichick and opportunity to just find a decent receiver you know and and i get it right. That's the part where people kind of blame bocek because he handles the draft and he hasn't been great at drafting this season. He has a really really good Offensive linemen that he drafted. I can't pronounce his last name. I don't even know what first name is. But they have a really good guard and other than that though. It's just i dunno. It's guys he just kinda drafts guys you have a chance at. Aj brown at decay metcalf at depot. Samuels you're a chance to draft all these guys and you drafted nick johari. Just think about the difference in the four chance for new england if instead of drafting the keo harry. They had drafted decay metcalf. Can you imagine tom brady with decay. Metcalf there can you imagine what that would look like. This last season new england might have been able to go to the super bowl again if they just had one that one receiver if they could have just had. Aj browner de came metcalf. And not in the harry. They could have gone to the super bowl. I firmly believe they. Are that clever. Over there in new england with tom. Brady and bill belichick and josh mcdaniels. I believe they could have gone to the super bowl or at least made it past the first round right. I could be in tennessee. They probably could a beaten in baltimore. I think is who they have faced. And i believe they met kansas city in the championship game. That's just me though a bu- all the people who are complaining about the new england the season in the fact that they're not a really good team. Look at the team be realistic. We all saw the opt-outs we all knew what they lost in free agency for anyone to have expected this team to aben a twelve. Eleven win team again was just being unrealistic. The schedule and the pieces around the cam newton it none of it really spelled for instant success. They tricked us the first three weeks of the season and now we kind of know what they are. They're just a bad team. Injuries kovin lack of practice. Not much talent. This team is just not gonna. This is not their ear. Wait until next year. Wait until the season after that. Wait until we know who on earth a quarterback is going to be. Can we just wait for that. Let's just see who their quarterback is even gonna be. I'm gonna give bill belichick a few seasons to figure this out before him and a sit here and say Guys yet was all brady. Yeah it was all brady. I'm gonna give him some time Another head coach though in the nfl. Who i do not believe. There's any excuse for is anthony. Lynn anthony lynn with the chargers. Season in la. I really liked them. The charges were good not great. There were nine thousand seven. They had some bad brakes but it looked like the charges were on their way up. Because i think the season before what were they foreign twelve i mean they were just they were they. Were not good so anthony. Lynn kinda corrected the shit. The next season his second year there they went twelve and four were one of the best teams in the afc. Philip rivers was playing at an elite level. That defense was incredible. Everything for this team was clicking. And then they just they couldn't finish it off. What what is it they. They beat the ravens and they went to new england and they just didn't play well but most people. I think believe the charges will be back next season. They'd be one of the best teams in the afc because the roster was basically returning and in they for whatever reason. We're able to stay healthy that year. Maybe they'd be able to stay healthy again but they didn't. They battled some injuries on defense and on offense and philip rivers opened up a bakery again in with serving turnovers left. And right i think he and baker mayfield. Were you know he baker mayfield and jameis. Winston were all like in the top five turnovers. It just wasn't a good season and so they went ahead and they shipped out philip rivers. They didn't resign them. Philip rivers went to free agency. He went to the colts and this season. You looked at the charges and you said okay. So the offense is there keenan allen. Mike williams hunter henry the offensive. Line the running backs. That's there the defense ingram. Bosa the limbaugh that secondary with harris and king and haywar than Derwin james okay. This should be the year that the charges can actually do something. Maybe they'll win the super bowl but they should be able to get to the play. Offs taylor for his career has been a low turnover player. He's never really gotten the respect. The zoro's pro football focus has had him rated in three of his starving seasons as top. Fifteen like top twelve quarterback in the nfl. So taylor is better than people realize and they just opened up the season flat. It was the worst like week. One win i think i've seen from team and the team's is hasn't it hasn't been good and i think the thing about the chargers that has been very disturbing to me is that they have. They have a loser's mentality. there's a stat that kind of that's very fluid in the nfl. Typically if one season a team is very bad in one score games the next season. They're usually either good or at least they become average right in a season where you're losing every single while i like you go one in seven in those games the next season you are more likely to win more of those games than lose them or at least you break about even it's a very fluid stat but when it happens to a team season after season after season that means it's the team that means it is the mentality of the team in now for two straight seasons. The chargers have shown in inability to close out teams. They can beat up on you by one score by two scores by three scores and they managed to choke it. They choked against the chiefs. They choked against the buccaneers. They choked against the saints. They almost choked against the jaguars they flat out choked against the denver broncos they had the denver broncos dead to right they allowed the denver broncos to score twenty one points in the fourth quarter until the fourth quarter. Denver only had ten points until the fourth quarter. They had ten points in. You allowed them to score twenty one. The buccaneers they outscored you. Twenty four to twenty four to seven. I believe in the second half. This chargers team has has a loser's mentality. And i don't know how long anthony lynn survive it. And i have to say given what i have seen now for. Two straight seasons of seeing this team choke lead after lead through lead turnovers bad. Play calling conservative. Play calling not really trying to put the team away. I think you move on from anthony. Lynn and i like him. I think you give him a shot somewhere else. But in in la sometimes the head coach is good but the team just needs a new voice in the locker room. Sometimes that's just what takes the team needs a mentality switch. They need a culture switch. Because i think the culture right. Now that's being fostered with. The chargers is not a good one now. The organization might not want to do it. The organization might look at anthony lynn along with justin herber and they might say we wanna keep them together. Herbert came in with two anthony. Lynn we wanna to give these guys a full season with a full o. T. as in everything and see what happens then. Okay i can understand that i i. I wouldn't push back on that too much. But i will also say this with guys like brian ball and eric b enemy in some of the college head coaches that could be available on lincoln riley always gets brought up with some of these other guys in college and in the nfl. Right now. who could be coming up as possible head coaching candidates. I i guess. I just have to say. Is it worth it to keep a defensive minded head coach with which anthony lynn is. Is it worth it to keep a defensive minded head coach rather than pair. This young stud rookie quarterback in his second year with an offense. Play calling genius with a guy who's just maybe even the genius but who's just way more offense oriented and it's not like a requirement i must. It's definitely not required right. Lamar jackson you see what he's doing john. Harbaugh is not an offensive minded head coach. But you see what. Russell wilson's during the pete carroll. He is not an offensive minded head coach. Till you don't need an offensive minded coach. Maybe you switch to that and even just for a change in the mentality of the team because for them to be so bad at keeping lead for them to be so bad at closing games. Some of it is just an herbert. Because he's a rookie. But this has been going on for two years now so even with philip rivers. This is the mentality of the team. I think it's the mentality of the head coach. And i think there needs to be changed. You know you've got a young quarterback you gotta surrounding the best. You can and the mentality of this team moving forward. 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The Jonathan Taylor and David Montgomery Dilemma

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The Jonathan Taylor and David Montgomery Dilemma

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I'm your host neal malignant and the fantasy football playoffs are on fire. I'm joined by adam aka the other f- f guy. What up adam your. We're also joined by mr teuku. Second a weeks in a row. Josh cocker. What am i as bright to twitter. Oh we're gonna make it three like that. No more ice storms all behind us now tall behind us speaking of weather. I was telling you just a second ago. Man fifty seven degrees. You don't florida. The a c is not turning on is is madness. madness had to get my kids sweaters for school. It's getting crazy man with do you even own sweaters that really now really. You might have one lane around next year. You're like it gets cold again for a couple of days or they to our florida kids. Just like layer t-shirts basically. Yeah and now you'll see people walking around the have sweaters on but shorts and flip flops. They understand these things they have to wear sweaters as we do that's how we roll but Yeah so it's a little chilly chilly out here. I sit around the house with the window open and joy enjoy. It had to tell the kids. it's too cold to go to the pool today. guys too cold. That is just not too cold chilly out. There will sound like so real having a few bad as you should. You should not knock it. Leaves the pool everyday. Yeah first covid weather getting out of hand twenty twenty getting. It's getting rough in florida but otherwise guys. Let's feed him about this. So it's not florida whether anymore be shut out to all the clock dodgers listening. You guys are what makes this show ron. I did check again for locations of of where the listeners are coming from. we're getting lots of love from. I didn't realize that. I don't know why i never noticed it. But we allots a love from from the canadians up. Top man so big. Shout out to the canadians out there. You guys knowing the listen no but anytime that like somebody's really invested in the nfl native. Don't live in the united states. I'm always impressed. Honestly i mean not to get sidetracked by people who are fans of anime outside the. Us are super impressive to me because they're always like watching pay per views at like six in the morning and crazy and all this stuff. So yeah. I mean shallow to anybody who isn't on. I guess canada's on the same time schedule so you guys. I mean as much as i love you passed. The the struggle is not nearly as is intense for you as it is for our brothers overseas. But yeah yeah. And i was checking on my k. Is this like one dedicated listener in canada housing not across different areas of this other guy or specter expect canada as didn't respect enough already journal. Richards is canadian. That's true that is true. That's a retread. There might be might be him he might be. You might actually just be moving around to different places in canada and listening to different areas You know the guy gets around out there. I hear i'm just clued. He does but yeah. He is from canada's maybe. He's our connect to the canadian people. He's he's voiced their microphone out there Maybe that's the recent splurge the recent increase that we've seen uptick was jordan so off to send them a check or something the same ones. We never sent any of ourselves. So we'll do that right away. Otherwise guys let's get into victory laps victory laps I'll let you guys start. I've been you know. Victory last. Been kind of weird we last couple of weeks so Adam start then. Josh and i will ask late. Been weird for you. You know saying certain names. And then i don't know if it's curse in think you're jinxing players. I don't know man. I don't know employed. I'm not that kind of guy antonio gibson his meal did you do this. I'll do this. And i thought it was the turf. The now he's got. Neil kidding me. Yeah i mean i you know. I don't like to start off victory laps with just like the player that destroyed the most. If there was ever a week to go out early this week guys this is not the week is just a it was too too painful but I mean there's always victory laps to take. I understand neal's Pause because it was a particularly good fantasy week for for a certain group of players that play out of a certain area We'll just leave it at that. But outside of that i mean this is a tough week for victory laps for It was it was kind of like a mediocre fantasy week but the biggest one. I mean i just i can't i can't stop taking cole beasley victory laps. I mean i feel like i was one of the only people ever who was talking about him going into this year Mentioned in the podcast before my most own. Best ball pig. He was available in like the last round almost any fantasy draft. You're in and finish this week. Is the wider super. Three coming into this week was wide. Receiver twenty five on this season so after tonight's game between baltimore in dallas because we're recording at during that game. I mean he's right now going to be a top twenty. P p r wide receiver the season. I just think that nobody saw coming coming into the year. And i personally didn't even see it coming But i definitely thought that he was being drafted far too low owen. I think that's one of the best things you can do. And fantasies kind of those opportunities for guys just greatly exceed their adp. So that was that was basically like the the one that i'll harp on because once again turned out to be fantastic but I'll give a shout out. The logan thomas is well. I mean he finally had a breakout week and He's somebody who coming into this year was early high on and hopefully they now see the talented. They have in him and and start to utilize him as a target option more But but yeah. It was great This past week. Yeah for sure. The beasley thing is cool too because it kind of is like it's surprising that the buffalo bills offense from a passing game perspective like when they added stuff on digs people. Were like you know. How many guys can they support. They john brown and you know they've been able to you know continue to rotate these guys or sometimes multiple guys are having big weeks like so typically cabinets that offense in general from the passing game perspective has been impressive That's a big part of why you know cole has been will doing so well Josh diva nia any any at least one player. you wanna give a nod to hear darren. Waller dern waller had a humongous week. And i would just like to say that hundred target seasons do not just happen for tight ends. It's not because of a lack of other options because that players get and darren waller had a fantastic season last season and people dismissed it because they thought that that team just didn't have any other options and he was getting targets by default and looks like he's actually good. Yeah yeah since you brought them up you know. Let my toes into the water here guys. I don't know if there's a curse taking place or not but i have to say. Derek carr who is the best quarterback last week and darren waller had like two hundred yards two touchdowns clearly. Nobody can stop the dude at any point in the game they married. What pass it was made no matter who was on him. It was ridiculous and so hopefully they can continue this. This is that win. I don't know exactly how that happened. How that took place at the game. It felt like it was just handed to them. I don't know what really was happening in the background. There but Yeah it was pretty nuts so you know. Hopefully they can stay consistent. Hopefully derek carr endow waller can do some sort of Not you know not replicated but you get as close as they can do it again next week next week. They're playing the colts. It's a big game. Both teams are trying to the playoffs. It's gonna be a wanna watch but yeah man shots every want we we we we were talking about darren. Waller win was a year ago or two years ago. We're talking about two years. I was two years okay. So like there's got to be people listening right now. Who two years ago. Maybe rolled the dice on him and dynasty. 'cause they heard us talking about maybe they said. Hey neal he's raider fan. He's probably not really on anything here. But i'll just take a shot on the guys basically free in my league and now yet. Can you imagine how you feel last week. They played the guy. They crushed so it feels good like when i think back about guys that we do. You know that's what these victory lobster fun to me. Because when i think back to the guys that we call it a long time ago And they play out now. Whether you're in dynasty whether you're just remain faithful and redrafting these guys year whatever it is i mean it feels good to see those guys playing well and you know continue. Do good things so i'm excited about obviously as a raider fan but fantasy fans should be just as excited and there's no reason for waller slowdown anyone. Derek carr has gained while you know usually still has a good game so all right so hopefully. I come out unscathed hopefully next week. There's no injuries everybody's good at laugh of cole. Beasley gets hurt since you laughed at me. I don laugh antonio gibson killed to the situation. Yeah and speaking of you know tony gibson. I mean let's. Let's injuries really quick with antonio gibson are we like i mean. You're pretty invested heavily. I don't know how much josh says. But i mean you really concerned about this adam why you think this is gonna be like a playoff killer and you should not miss time for this injury. That being said i've never had it so players typically. Don't miss time for this injury. So my hope is you know. He sat out the entirety of that game This is not the best of signs. But you know and they won. They beat the undefeated steelers. Which egos have heard me on the podcast before but there is something in my opinion to you. Know when teams have big wins or win games just in general early in the year. I find that offense is try and go back to whatever was successful in those games so it is a little unnerving the they had that much success with gibson out but the thing that wasn't successful at all which jd mckissic in the running game kice completely enact in that dynamic great backfield is pass catcher. Great and pass pro. But he can't run between the tackles. He's not going to be a running back and the traditional sense for that team so if gibson comes back expect touches to go right back to where they were which makes them pretty much. Like must star player. If he's out. I mean mckissic flex worthy just based on the volume. You'd get in the passing game. So i don't mind still flexing him You know obviously if if gibson's out he becomes kind of guy that you're looking to get in your lineup. Or you know he becomes a little bit better than flex worthy. Yeah yeah for sure. So yeah hopefully. Hopefully it was just this past week. And and whoever had them in their playoff team survived or you know. They're wild wildcard rounds. Whatever you guys were participating in hopefully we'll survive it you know and and asked him next week year. Play for you. But i know man is going to be team that lost just because of that. You know it sucks but this is the way the game works. mass ways. Plays that as we play it so Hopefully he's back at definitely a big injury for a lot of teams though clyde edwards helaire I gotta say. I got a mention josh. Got his hand on the injury. Report here and E- you know he came is very limited information to go off here. He says clyde was sick. The i mean listeners. Like is this you know. In fact your information is is you know okay is is to allow this atom mean. This is kind of like half information here. Yeah he had a stomach virus right so We all assume he's going to be back this upcoming week. You know doesn't seem like the issue of like there's a pandemic happening and illness could non a myriad of things if was covert i would have said counter use. Got a normal set. Yeah he said yeah. I mean just to touch on c. Age for a minute here. It has been really interesting to see a in the the thing with the chiefs offenses. They basically can't fail so if they decide they don't wanna use the age they don't have to so for me. As far as he goes moving forward. I really relegated him to kind of like a running back to flex sorta option just because how much they use bell and how much. They don't ever have to rely on him. I mean he's still going to have huge game so it's tough to bench him But definitely coming off this illness and everything else that goes into it With how they've utilized him since the signing of bel i guess i I'm not looking to bench him. But if i have a really good options. He's probably going to benched. If that makes sense may make sense. It makes sense makes sense. It's manson's weird ones. I don't know joshua benjamin. Us situation where you would now. Now i think at bell's not really taking his much of the work as i thought that he would take. It was the last time i checked. It was more like a third of the words. He's taken a ton of the work. The only difference really the only thing that's kept alive it's touchdowns i mean if if we're just looking over the past handful weeks You're looking at twelve touches sixteen touches which is great but then eight touches nine touches twelve touches and those are the games sense. Bell has been active. So it's a stark contrast to prior to that thirty touches Thirteen touches in a game where he had eight targets thousand nine touches twenty-five touches a sixteen touches and twenty seven touches It's just it's dramatic In from a volume perspective at least all right. Yeah yeah oh man. I don't think they'll set him. I hope not you know it's not lingers and like you said i mean they're good with them without him there you go into. The playoffs doesn't matter So i'm sure it isn't that lingers we'll wait and see kind of thing but i hope it is you know it comes and goes but as two rookies in a row that we're talking about it running back that are you know. Been depending on their kind of kind of hurting us now. After we've bragged about the mole year Boyd and parker gonna fight last week. I everything i've read that they're not gonna get suspended the fines. I don't even know how that current as a fight. I'm sorry to interrupt but did you see it. Like the acclaimed punches were thrown. I'm like if those are punches. You barely barely. It was It was the most mild fight that i feel like i've seen people get attracted for. Yeah wasn't that big of a deal. We've seen worse. I would say the nfl so yeah they should both be fine though So we have to worry about that. bengals Bringing allen had a chest injury has anyone seen an update on. That doesn't care nothing. Nothing recent i assume. We'll get updates tomorrow on him most of the time. That's when you get updates on on these sorts of injuries but yeah. I mean as far as care. It's tough to. I mean they definitely have had options in that assing game though that have stayed relevant even with the loss of borough so you know if he got he ends or via boyd. Y- you care at least to some extent because that's probably honest. I don third string quarterback is but i'm sure to thought good yea only gets worse more than likely So keep an eye on that one. Darrell henderson suffered a knee injury. I also not seen update on that he did leave the game So you know the injury runningback if it's bad enough probably not gonna play but that's another wait and see. That was no clear word on that one. james conner with his cova diagnosis. He is expected to return. So that's a good thing for the playoffs. Maybe if you had antonio gibson or ca they do get benched for some reason because their injuries our health in maybe connor come back and help you out a little bit. We talked about it before the show guys bryant during this game is being played or now. Cities quit in the season due to his pre-game positive. Covid test he was not happy about it. He was tweeting on twitter about it. Not not happy. Obviously very understandable kind of sucks that he got an opportunity to come back to the game. He's played a few games and now he's got like probably never play again this year and possibly never again. His career discuss sucks. That plays out. I can have a worse person at this point If i don't know anyone who's starting does brian. Their leagues or was in a position. Care how this affects the team in any way. But it's just sucks overall for news you know Did you want to be guys wasting waivers or anything on. Does this year. Just because i guess i wanted to happen i mean i kinda feel his frustration a little bit. I'm sure i'm sure he's just kind of angry. He feels like he still has something to give. And not. this is gonna be in his way. Yeah it sucks The last one we have here is Jalen hurts he had replaced wentz. But we do actually have a question later in the show will wait for that for the jalen hurts conversation but it's just something to think about for people who are set in lineups again prepared and trying to make adjustments for this week upcoming but we'll get to it we'll get more to jalen harris later Any their injuries. That i've missed guys. They does it. Lawrence circle back to clyde and laid beyond the is bothering you a little bit worse than what i said. But it's close to two thirds like I i feel like i expected lady on to come in and fully take half of the work and and that that's not happening. I mean in week. Eleven clyde was. Clyde was an rb one week twelve was addy had four point nine points. Yeah i mean. It's it just touchdowns. Ben if you just look at points is touchdowns i just ran through the touches it. The thing is he was getting literally one of the highest workloads in the league. I think only james robinson was getting more touches than him the first half of the year so from that. It's a dramatic drop oil. Most running backs. I mean you know in the last two weeks if you're just focusing on recently in sixteen and twelve touches it's not. It's not terrible but it's definitely not a guy who drafted at the end of the first beginning of the second round. So i i don't know i think context is everything but But to me it seems like a pretty drop. it's such it's a job it's just. It's about two thirds one third from. Yeah i get what you're saying from like the running back in that offense corp currently. Yeah all right one more guy that we actually didn't have here on the list josh jacobs. He's probably still going to be out next week. That's my assumption. So they brought in spencer ware for a tryout. They may have spencer ware in booker out there guys to a former rivals division rivals in their league and their division. Now may be playing for them. This week we'll see But yeah so. Josh may not play this week so answer. that's important again playoffs gaz. Even you know ryan this whole way. This is what happens man. This is why you have to ask them depth because these kind of things happen so we'll see how that plays out again. That's when i would just keep an eye on because it could change but as of right now does on pilot of all right. let's go over to trust issues. Gentlemen the first one we have here. Jonathan taylor is finally healthy. Any top twelve runningback. Trust or trust issues adam. I still trust issues. I mean down the stretch. You expect rookies to know be acclimated. They're all fences and further touches to really star to increase foot. As we've gone going through here. I mean we've got rookies. Banged up rookie. Seeing less touches now. Jonathan taylor is kind of been a more unique case if you will Because the his kind of been struggling throughout and now hours finally quote unquote getting healthier. Getting right but I'm still a little trepidation Just with their overall usage. I mean the game hines has been getting a ton of work there. I don't really expect that to go away and overall mean that the team's winning games and they're scoring points but it just. It's not an offense that i'm really excited to get super invested in so obviously if you draft jonathan taylor. You probably don't have a lot of better options. He's not really guide. That i think it's easy to benched by any stretch of the imagination but My expectations are capped. The if you look at say we ten through thirteen. Just recently jonah. Say kinda recent they did have a bye week but npr Jonathan taylor sixteen was funny. Isn't he finds a seven so if you have to choose one of the other I would go. Hi ends at this point. Still but i understand if you have a waiting on jonathan taylor this whole time to be excited to be happy that you know. They're starting to see some positivity but know speaking of workload with clyde edwards helaire mean. That's john taylor. Trauma to you know like this high isn't going anywhere. He's been good at what he's been doing. So yeah i mean it's definitely concern so out have trust issues too. I just don't you know. I'm not gonna get all excited when this just starting to turn the page here. I got to see more of it. But i know that if you have him like you said he drafted him earlier of your dynasty and you kinda got excited about it. You know you're happier your and there's you know you should be positive about it. It's it's a it's a positive terminally so But i still have trust issues overall as a running back but definitely you know. Positive signs are starting to come around on the taylor Josh trust or trust issues. I trust it. I trusted for. Jonathan taylor adjusted it because it just looks to me like nothing. Nothing huge james. On and things. He only had sixteen opportunities last week. If i'm if i'm correct in that and you always had that before so it wasn't like he got what he didn't get him a massive increase in his workload he just was more efficient with it and and this comes after taking a week off. I think the there's a lot of situations where we don't really know what a player is dealing with through the season. And i think that i think jonathan taylor might be getting his legs under him. All right there you go next guy. David montgomery is on the trust. Issue is he has found his way back onto the podcasts. After not you know being very relevant recently before now so data montgomery has been over twenty fantasy points for two weeks in a row trust or trust issues at. He'll add a third week in a row. Adam i actually trust it It you know. We talked a little bit. Coming into the yearbook raiders in their schedule. But i didn't really talk much about the bears in their schedule and the bear schedule basically was really easy to you. Pretty hard to really easy and The it's close out the year with the houston minnesota jacksonville And i and week seventeen have green bag which you know is basically loss already on the calendar over the next three games are all winnable for sure So i think going up against houston this week. It seems like it'll be another good situation other pob. Positive game script I definitely don't love it by any stretch of the imagination. David montgomery is not getting some crazy. Touch share Quarter o- patterson often will look like the more explosive player out of that backfield so montgomery still doesn't have that going for him but at the end of the day. I think that they're probably going to win that game against houston or the very least it's going to be a high scoring game So i think the potential scoring is there and he's still getting work in the passing game. Which i think ultimately gives them a high enough floor for me that he's been every week starter. And then he has pretty good touchdown potential this week. Yeah i definitely agree with you. I trusted as well. you know. obviously he's he's playing well since he came back and the texans are not a good. You know rushdie so like you said. This game should be competitive. He should have the opportunity to run the ball. And if so i mean hey. He's got the hot hand right now. He's feeling good. This texan seem is vulnerable to run so yeah trust it. Why not i. I definitely have no issue with montgomery. You know doing it again this week. So trust for me. Josh trouser trust issues david. Montgomery and twenty Fancy points i have trust issues. I have to think that that david montgomery is is just benefiting from circumstance and i. You know adams right about the schedule getting a lot easier but this guy has just. He's he's had decent volume all year and his underperformed it all year until these last two games. Yeah but it's so ironic. Because you'd literally just said the exact same thing about jonathan taylor. But you liked jonathan taylor. And it's the exact same situation had volume all year was inefficient miss. Multiple weeks missed one week and john. Taylor's case comes back has a performance where he sees more volume is extremely efficient. The herald i insist. I'll i jonathan taylor. Because he has the athletic profile expecting to to be able to dub and because david montgomery is slow. I expect him to be bad. I mean overall from what. I've seen from david. Montgomery i do not have high expectations of him from a talent perspective. I just know how the bears used their running backs. And i know works on that team And they've given him a ton of work all year and the biggest thing for me is just he could. He gets a ton of targets. You know almost every game. He's seeing multiple targets some games upwards of five to seven targets so for me that just that heightened says potential so greatly begin though with the player like jonathan taylor that we were just talking about. The question was top twelve going forward. This is twenty points or more. They're they're actually pretty similar. It makes me almost rethink jonathan taylor now having some perspective on dividend. 'cause it's like the expectation for those players was different complainer. The season i had higher expectations for jonathan taylor. So i'm just him still based on those high expectations. I have lower expectations for david. Montgomery in reality right now. They're very much the same player wild while turn of events here gentlemen out of college out said hey. This is similar. Jonathan terry a.d. Actually that's a good point. It is down to taylor. Maybe i should change my answer than taylor. Yeah for me. It's more about the matchup. An he has a hot hand right now so the team is feeling good about feeding them. So yeah i mean i just feel good matchup wise if this was somebody else that they were playing tough. You know it's up defense. I would have given that kind of credit but So adam are you. Are you flipping in your answer on taylor for the first question. Yeah i i think in all situations as the like you're harping on. It's very matchup. Is i think both dies like low end. Rb twos right now who most people are going to be starting because let's face it. There's not a ton of wide receivers that you are. I'm sorry don a running back. See feel super confident about week in week out. So i think these are guys that most people starting But as far as like what to expect from them fantasy production wise. I think there yet guys who are probably going to be at best low end running back ones and probably going to have high floors because they both are going to be active in the receiving game. Gotcha article all right. The next one hundred new head coach darryl bevill matt stafford one per game rest of season. Trust or trust issues josh. I trust i trust because we've seen it from stafford before and and now we've got their level in they're letting stafford throw at deep. You know and if kenny golladay comes back. I think it's like a done deal matt stafford. Qb one like. I trust very much interest and adam. Are you in the same boat with the josh here. Yeah i mean is a qb one on the season as it's been So yeah. I mean he's the cutie twelve right now but i think things get better with darrow bubble. I think did the way in which he wants to run an offense caters along. More to what. Matthew stafford is good at Like josh said the more they pushed the ball downfield better. They're going to be a marvin jones and kenny golladay. When they're healthy are both grade. Downfield receivers possession receivers. They can move the ball in the passing game And i think ultimately they need desperately approaching james so this could be really positive Do think it's going to be like sky's the limit for him or anything. No but i think if he's been a quarterback that you've been you know starting the year with getting by. I think that your fantasy team is gonna look a lot better going into the playoffs. You could be very confident in him. Producing at least you know a high floor. Production weaken we out dasha. Yes it'll be trust across the board for all three then May guess just gotta get better mattress during the war. Things have to go up only where they can go so yeah he's already been in a decent this season and you know no reason for him to decline in any of our is so yeah definitely we all agree there all trusted at one next one cam. Akers is the lead running back in. La trust were trust issues. Adam oh man this is hard. I'm gonna say trust issues still. But it's they're light. They're very light trust issues like i think he at this point has the lead in that. Backfield I think brown has basically been relegated to goal line work and even that we're not really seeing so it's religious. A question of is darrell henderson healthy. If darrow hunters assad healthy or he's banged up acres is going to be a slam. But if you know montgomery czar if henderson comes back. And he's fully healthy and active. They're gonna utilize him. So i don't see any world where a rely on one running back with the amount of talent they have in that backfield so for me. It was just kind of situational. The gave you know acres. This huge uptick in usage. And i think we just see that. Come right back down to what he'd been previously. Which is you know like in the ten touches range. You might see closer to ten to fifteen touches but as far as twenty plus. That's not gonna happen unless he's the only one in that backfield so you don't think it's like a you know team is starting to change the guard and go to acres kinda make him the guy you think. It's just a matter of injuries in hot hand in electronic stuff situational on its own. I mean we've seen it for one week now. A minnesota guy who last week had as many touches as like the past three weeks combined. So you can't just assume that that usage is automatically going to stay especially when darrell henderson was heard you'd situational factors like that going into it and henderson throughout the year. Even though they haven't had like a course back situation has been the running back that's gotten the most touches one. How the backfield. So i do expect acres to continue to chip away at that but i by no stretch thing could he's gonna steal the vast majority of the touches in the backfield. Yeah yeah. I have trust issues within myself like you said just the way. They're using these running backs and you know. Obviously if they're hunters hurt that changes things in perspective but just overall. I haven't liked acres opportunity in this backfield of having used him. I know that the offensive line and stuff is a struggle there too so there's like things that he's the all these running backs are trying to work through. Basically that are you know putting behind a show. The gate but I i had high hopes for acres into the year and it hasn't really played out the way i'd hoped But yeah. I don't think he's going to be the lead back. Team wants to lead back necessarily per se a lead back. But yeah i i. I have trusted for sure Josh do you trust it or do you trust issues with a lot. More of durell henderson's her. The that really helps a lot. But cam akers has been gaining on him for the last few weeks you know. Last week anderson got her but the touches were twenty to six and in week twelve. It was eleven to sit to sit eleven to nine. Sorry with henderson in the lead and the week before that it was eleven to six eleven. Six eleven nine and then cam has the big game last week. I feel like. I feel like he's up and coming so it definitely helps if henderson mrs time but i think i think cam akers is come on. Now you're right. One thing that i do want say though i don't want anyone in this backfield. They do not throw to the running backs at all. it's crazy. how little they running backs in the passing game and for me. That's just too big of a factor. You just become far too reliant on touchdowns unless you had somebody who who's just a total workhorse. Getting twenty carries every week. I just. I cannot feel comfortable. Starting anybody here i mean obviously you can be put in situations and fantasy where you just start a guy who's going to be getting touches but i'm not thrilled starting anybody in this backfield and it's funny because acres henderson are both guys who can't catch the while the backfield and do great things but it soon. It's yeah it's it's totally coaching scheme. I really as much as i love. Sean mcvay and honestly is proud of what he's been able to get out of. Jared goff even the season there are some things about how they their offense just confused as to how to me. I mean do situational run calling their lack of use of running backs in the passing game. They just interesting things that i don't know for me personally. I don't necessarily agree with but they've been successful so you know it's hard to knock it. Basically what you're saying is jon. Gruden better playcaller correct. Yeah sure i mean honestly one of the best play calling base you can do is hey. That player is better than anybody else on the field. Let's throw him the ball. Fifteen done and i can't knock that honestly. I think that was one of the smartest thanks. John gruden's ever as a coach. So you know. Look for more of that this week. If josh jacobs is out 'cause As far as situational play calling goes. That's the best situation will play call. You can make. Hey we have a guy that they can't stop it all. Let's just keep giving him the ball. Good meal it's great. It sounds sounds he works out. I i'd love to see the rams do it. More with cooper kupp so yeah i i don't like either like what he doesn't receivers like robert. Woods innkeeper capper both starving to death in terms of air yards. And i just. I don't understand it like woods. Still managed to be the wide receiver thirteen points per game on the season. But it it. It's it must all be yards after the catch man. Just stand white either. One of these guys can get in air yards. Mcveigh was a darlan. Everyone loved them. Everyone's ragging on heart right now. Man we'll see even ragging on them 'cause to me like he's being successful. I do not understand how it successful struggle like i. I do not agree with the play calling. But they've got a great defense there too and i think that that's a big part of it. I mean we're talking about one side of the ball here mostly for fantasy so You know it's easy to be critical the offense but But their defense defenses but holding their end of the bargain and they weren't close games so you know they're they're doing something right but But yeah. I'm kinda with josh there. There's a lot of times where i'm watching their offense kind of scratching my head I don't necessarily have the same complaints about the air yards stuff because i don't think that actually matters. You have believed the ac with which they do. I think the forty niners are proving that as well But yeah whether the offense. I was going to compare them to. But but you know robert woods is not a deebo. No you're completely right in that regard. Yeah i mean deebo. Samuel is a very unique skill. set that very much so caters to throwing the ball. Behind the line of scrimmage for all intensive purposes. I mean. I just yeah. It's a very unique skill set. But you're right in. I mean san francisco. La what they are is. They're two of the most forward thinking franchises in the nfl that entire division. In my opinion the fourteenth in that division are formed the ten best teams in the nfl. And it's sad you know all four can't make the playoffs because honestly in the nfc looking at the teams. I'd rather have the four teams from that division the playoffs and every other division get one team. 'cause they're that good. I mean the that competitive Remind shamanee's bagged on here. Guys is gary coaches shanahan. And mcveigh are dealing with limited ability. Quarterbacks and and making the best ever yawkey payton on jerry go. Just give me josh. I feel you may not. Everybody can have a derek carr as understandable Neil one thing that i did want to say about that is i think it's hilarious even after his wide receiver. One week on total fantasy points for the year. Jared goff's it's just barely just like a smidgen ahead of derek carr just just the littlest bit to remind you where you stand by the end of the season. Derek carr will surpass jared goff. It's all matters. I mean if they have no running game that is very possible whatever. Make your excuses man. Make your excuses this one. I'm not gonna you're not gonna beat me talking really great about their car now. 'cause i'm not looking for injuries or another bad game so i'm gonna play cool. You're right yeah you're right. Jared goff is great The bears find their way onto this episode. I don't know why we're not really a bear friendly podcasts. you're adam but Co combat is the bears tenant. One industry will option in redraft. I'm let you start with this out because you are a bears. Fan trust tracers. I got trust issues. i really do. I mean they are going to utilize the tight ends there. And i think it's just because that entire offense is basically like who can we. Who can we get the ball to. 'cause nobody's explosive. Nobody's exciting no. Nobody does anything after the catch. So let's just you know. Let's get these young guys involved. I think coke met from dynasty perspective is really interesting but from a redraft from of this year perspective i still see you know his usage being really up in the air. Really one of those things that is gonna come and go very easily and in this is legitimately like the first game. He's had where he seen more than two or more than three targets but more than two catches in a game all season. So let's calm down. I'm not starting him. I have to see it for another week at least before it even consider it and i think even with the decimated tight end position. I think this is just kind of a reach for in a situation. That's been there all year. Who's been jimmy graham throughout the year there but it's never been great. They just they throw in the red zone to their title house. That's what it comes down to so they can catch touchdowns but i don't see the usage stick around with you trust issues on the anything to what you just said. Josh demanding extra. I think he is overtaking jimmy graham but i'm not sure that he's going to be a thank you will always just be a situational. He has a good matchup this week. Type of player. Gotcha all right and there's actually one last one we have here for trust issues. Nick mullins in your super flex in the playoffs. Trust or trust issues. Adam who trust issues in weird talking about it you know. San francisco's extremely. Well coached team. That being said i just. There's so many good options at quarterback still and we've had a lot of injuries but there's still so many quality options even on your waiver wire. There's a lot of quality options. I don't think that this is a situation where you want a week in week out starter. I think nick mullins is a guy who you know situationally fill in a week or two there but if you're coming into your fantasy playoffs and you're relying on nick mullins. You're not feeling good josh. You feeling that man. So i'm going to take a different angle on this. Like because i have some sleep reflects teams were nick mullins and starting and of course. We're nick molins is starting. I do not have other options. That's why nick mullins starting. Yeah you don't feel good. You just like. Here's what i would say if you can get rid of a quarterback going into the playoffs again and improve running back or wide receiver. And just say fuck it. Unplugging in nick mullins so that i can go get. I don't know david montgomery. Maybe not david carry. Bet you do that. You do that. Because nick mullins as much as he's not any kind of household name or brand at all he's a qb to seventy five percent of the time. So let go with nick more. I would like to a callback to an episode earlier in the season. When nick woolens played he had actually beaten out. Russell wilson russell wilson that week and we asked if he can do that again or last week he did so something i thought would never happen. It happened guys. Nigga i just i just want to make an argument for the roster build. Where like you are scraping by at quarterback in a superplex and put the capitol somewhere else. Adam heard him. You heard him and he's going to be playing them so we'll see next week. How josh feels about nick. Mullins teams how they fared Interested to see this So we'll see how it will give back with josh next week on that. Let's move over to do that again. Let's hit this quickly. Baker mayfield and the browns offense supported three. Top twenty receivers. Pr last week. Can they do at least two of those next week josh. Who can you know what. I had a conversation with my buddy jeff today at work as a huge huge browns fan and i want to say that they have the ravens next week. So so that's that is that is unlikely. If i'm right about that matchup but also it's what it's jarvis. Landry jarvis landry rashard higgins and was it donovan. People's it was over. I don't think that's going to keep happening. I think it's a lot more likely that we see like kareem hunt. Nick chubb both have a hundred fifty rushing yards. Gotcha so adam. He doesn't he doesn't think it can be done again. The airplane the ravens monday night. What do you think man. Can it be done again. I know i don't but i do wanna heart back on some. I said last podcast which is main guys. Look how good. The brown's got once that lost odell beckham. It's almost like that. Guy's a cancer any franchise. He's a part of all right. Moving on your hate mail to adam. Everybody send your email. Dali's terrible are any eew. Louis guy baker mayfield. He he cannot last week. And i mean he looked like patrick mahomes for a half was something. We've never seen them before. And i don't know we'll see him again I don't think the ravens of the match up for it by any stretch. So they have an extremely efficient rushing game. I i expect them to be much more balanced in most games Can he do it again next week. Definitely not before the end of the year. Maybe i could see. I can grab another big performance where you know finishes his up insecurity for baker their little love but no one's in the they can t twenty tower receivers next week as fair. How about this guy austin. Ekeler landed himself outside the top twenty at running back in pr. Can he do that again. Yeah don't hate me but yeah yeah. Jan I think that you know that team got just destroyed by the patriots. I mean there's something to be said for bill. Bala chac man when when he goes up against certain rookies he just annihilates them i mean even what he did against cuyler in their first matchup this past year. I mean collar wasn't a rookie. He's looking like you can be an mvp candidate and the patriots completely. Shut him down so it could just be the situation But that being said i. Just i don't know i'm nervous about that offense going down the stretch Alcan's this week. This should be get right week. But even while justin. Herbert was super hot. There they had no rushing game productions so came back had a big week last week. Completely irrelevant but that might have been just game script. That might have been just the situation. I'm not thrilled. I think it's kind of you know. He's one of those guys. Oddly enough uganda falls in very similarly with david montgomery with you know Jonathan taylor in a way. He's somebody who's gonna be used in the passing game because of that. He's going to have a high floor he. Somebody do drafted probably higher than my expectations are going to be for him. oughta those three guys at probably rank him the lowest going into next week but him in montgomery would be pretty neck and neck. I think so. Yeah i mean. I'm not thrilled. But i think he's still go like flex worthy discussing discussing discussing discussing. You are nasty man. Austin ekeler top. Genuine bags got him. It's very possible but Josh is sounds like feels that bill belichick might have beat the confidence out of the chargers. Didn't it wasn't that game. Forty five zero here. It was he. He did if the confidence that he visit at them. I don't think that's going to happen again. How often do. Nfl teams get skunked. That at least know and joshua kelly is heard. I don't know how much time he's gonna miss not getting a lot of work. Anyways it's really capable ause now behind austin ekeler but i don't think he's a very dynamic player. I think ekeler will will get plenty of opportunity. And i think the chargers will score points in games. Can i take back everything i said. So yeah a full disclosure internet connection terrible pro football reference taken a minute to load to he and sixteen targets. last week. he had sixteen dr last week. I mean you know when they play buffalo not last week against new england but last week against new england again nine targets over the last two weeks. He's had twenty five targets. I mean that to me. That's that's stuff to overlook especially from a guy that easily doubled the russia's. That's that's really tough to overlook. So yeah i mean it. It's weird. I feel like a broken record but He very much so falls into that. Jonathan taylor david montgomery or he range of guys. Who i think are probably only gonna see ten to fifteen rushes are gonna usage in the passing game and for that. I still like him running backs broken records week. Fourteen says it's just the you man. They're all the same type of usage guys. Guys who are going to get way. More usage in the receiving game than they are touch out of the backfield and the rushing game. It's just the type of player or each of those guys seem to be all in situations cater a for sure. I have one more of these. Four you will w we have a bunch of questions to get to cole beasley. Adam talked about him earlier. Hit twenty point. Mark actually Point work for the third time this season. He was double digit points for the eighth time. This season kenny. Do it again next week vs steelers adam. One hundred person especially against the steelers man steelers. You're going to be just passed this a big big game for the afc. I mean you know the steelers got the first law so the bills have i guess. Some outstanding chance still getting a by It's like the steelers. Were to lose out or something crazy but But yeah i mean as game script goes. This is a game that i expect to be high scoring and i expect to be a shootout of sorts Though the bills are going to be throwing the football and we've seen from this on offenses. Kobe was going to get a ton of targets. Stefan day's gonna targets and josh allens run all over make plays and because of that. I mean for me. Kobe's like must start guy. Maybe i'm crazy but top twenty. Npr so far this year so crazy like a fox. Josh adam crazy no he he could do it again. I mean the guys like you can basically only men for six or seven targets game. And he's going to have a few with twelve thirteen. Eleven these done. He's had three games with double digit targets. So it's it's happening Beasley his game. Give me folks feel good about me. Feel good animals. Nicest thing that's happening for you met last. See kobe's getting all this love all right. We got a bunch of listener questions today. we'll try to get through these as best as we can We don't always prepare for the listener questions. We like to kind of free. Sally's bab way. So we'll see what we have here in front of us This one is directed to adam his specifically for adam. And it's a question that we visited a lot this year. Thanks justin at jackson. F f underscore. After watching four years are refialy going to see a breakout season. Twenty twenty for corey. Davis adam landed. Yeah i get it. I get it. It's trolling me. it's fine. i still don't think. Torii avis is good. So there's but you know he's he's been good this season Aj brown has not really. So there's that jonnu smith and injured up so there's that derrick. Henry hasn't gotten nearly the that has in the past so i think there's a lot of factors that go into corey. Davis is a guy that we saw multiple seasons year after year. Have high expectations completely fail on those expectations and he finally goes off his fifth year in the league. Just so happens to be the year where there's tons of situational things going on Maybe it's no fans in the stands. Maybe that's what gets him to play well But you know hats off to corey davidson in all honesty for for being somebody who most people have completely road all if you stuck with him. year after year after year. Well you were a loser. Most of that time this year this year it's great And hats off to you. Because i surely didn't see this coming But if he's shown us anything. I mean core davis can have huge performances. I think going into next year. I'll be very very interested to see where a guy like. Corey davis is drafted. I expect him to be overdrafted. Very much so It'll be interesting to see justin. Thank you continuing his question man. It was only right. Look getting sold like that too. I mean really. I was totally wrong on him. I shot him all at the beginning of the year. And you know you were someone like me who just complete his nissim. You missed out. I mean you missed it on production so it's definitely not something. I'm proud of. I really quick before josh time. I have no issue dismissing him now. Stop moustache moustache to dismiss them. Justin good job. Just keep the questions coming. Every week he has a good week. Keep bringing it on. Also josh before you talk. Ag brown. i had to take a little defense here. Had a bad season my van. He's twenty five. he's the wide receiver. Twelve points per game. Yeah so. I'm not gonna tolerate that from adam either. I can't let that slide. I don't get the whole point was injuries. He hasn't been healthy. He's been banged up all years in being johnny. That's my issue is like even if they're on the field these guys who've been struggling with injuries who haven't seen the usage the you'd expect from them so. I think it's given way to corey. Davis being able to explode like this that being so i mean it's not it's not like the be all end all and then they still on the field has had to defend them. I just couldn't let us ly josh's something else to add or was it that i was just thinking about where i would drop corey davis next year and i think i think i'd be drafted him somewhere around wide receiver twenty four adams adam laughing. It did this even have any possibility of duping that raise probably not even gonna i mean. Yeah and he's wide receiver eighteen after he just came off of fantasy performance where he was wide receiver one. What was he last week. Dude no Yeah but that's exactly what i mean. I think people are going to be drafting him. It's like top thirty wide receiver. Next year i will have no part of that all right all right. Thank you just continue continuing this man. This is great Sat out next. One at brad duff. Nine on twitter what who are some players targeting week. Twelve sorry who are some players to target in twelve team leagues if you own. Dj more and antonio gibson both probably might miss due to toe injuries that kind of stuff also name a percentage chance. You think cmc please this weekend. Unless are that really quick. I the percentage on amc May have a strong number on that one plant yet. I think it's okay. Everyone thinks he's playing that. If i had to give a percentage that he was like ninety percent and i think especially with having a week last week he might have gone last week even if they were playing so yeah. I expect him to be back this week. And i don't know about you guys but in my fantasy playoffs. If i don't have christian mccaffrey. That's the one person that i'm like searching in every league this if they made the playoffs. Because i don't want that. I mean if somebody made the playoffs even with christian mccaffrey being almost entire year and now they get them going into the playoffs. That's gonna be that's gonna be a dangerous team in holly fischer all right. So we all think he's gonna play in the reports he said to return to so that's that's good As far as brad's part of the question is asking if there's some players that you guys targeting In case of guys that we've mentioned earlier like antonio gibson or josh jacobs these guys or anybody that you guys are waivers looking for that. You're trying to trade last minute. If you haven't if yourself trades open your leagues any any guys that you guys are trying to replace these guys with our kind of just whatever's on your team with this point which rollo it. I've got three players. I'm i'm putting in bids for everywhere and that's Peyton barber because you know adam was talking about the concerns with jd. Mckissic so peyton barber tied johnson to god a lotta work after frank gore was concussed. Did and i'm not sure. Frank gore is coming back this week and i like chad handsome on on the texans wide receiver. It's funny that you mentioned that because we did talk about in when fuller policy. We mentioned it last week. I asked you guys. I think it might have been a question that came in or something about kiki. Ut and animals like not trust in this guy. and so. I mean he did good. You know hansen did good. So i'm curious is it because cooties not available in that league Josh or is it. Because you just can't answer more. I like hanson more okay. I feel like we kind of know what kuti is like. He you know he could could get hot for two or three games. But i think that's all he is. I don't think he's going to emerge as a leader on that team. I think i think he's a guy who has the very occasional and sporadic big game and at hanson might also be nothing but he he's we don't know we don't know what he is yet. He's played one game this season. He had a hundred eleven air yards. i'm gonna go ahead and see what that we'll see where that leads. I hear you on that. Adam hearing this right now. He's going to air yard guy whiz. You enjoy you kind of dismiss them last week. Would you trust kuti. If you're in a spot where you do lose assay antonio does not play in or whoever's on your team would you trust a not this week in your fancy playoffs or will he not be an option at all and you would either role someone you already have or just dig deeper like joshua hanson. I mean i. I i feel bad because i'm like i. I just missed beauty. Yeah you kind me. I did not how i remember. But maybe maybe josh that being said a call to give the same answer to kuching. I mean as far as a starting him last week or anything. But as dismissing the play. I mean yeah i definitely didn't see you know eight catches for over one hundred yards last week coming for sure not But that being said we had seen kuti have breakout games So for me there. There's a giant target oil that all fence losing wool fuller I thought the majority of that was going to go to brandin cooks but doesn't seem to be the case so I i don't know about this chat. Handsome guy. he's talking about do not has had multiple performances like the over his career. Now so i think that you know from a take a shot on a guy you know last guy and you're starting lineup kind of approach flex option gentle minded but. I definitely not excited to start him. Okay that answers a question. All right So i think that's pretty good brad. peyton barber coochie hanson. These guys that are you know. Decent options But you know again. It just sucks if you're kind of going into the playoffs with this guy. Situation am allows teams are but yes guys how to make the best of which you got man The next one at barrow joffrey hurts. Went drama can eagles really move on from owen. That much money would any t stupid enough to take on the contract. Now that bill. O'brien isn't running team. Adam it's a great question I thought the lube with super interesting especially because they still shot at the playoffs because of that division That being said. I may jalen hurts. Might be their best option to win. Moving forward with nominee been playing. I don't think they really do have a great option to bail on him. So therein kind of a really sticky situation here because the there have jalen hurts and he does well in which case then. They have a quarterback controversy or he does poorly in which case they might have been a quarterback so it seems like a lose lose for philadelphia fans But i don't i don't mind You know there. Two games back in the vision now with four games lost in the year. So they might just think that they're out of contention and after losing four straight. It might very won't be so i don't. I don't really care too much about the decision. I'm excited to see. Jalen hurts play You know the little action that he had wasn't something to get really excited about but we'll see what he doesn't fool start and as far as carson goes man just as there have been anybody in recent memory that's been as hyped up as carson wentz like everybody tells me skyscraper great and it's just man this this season is not good for him. Yeah it's been pretty ugly end you know we've seen it you know years where he's had injuries and this and that and like everyone's like oh man sucks is pretty good quarterback so we keep having these freak incident happened and things like that and even now. I've seen a lot of people who are respected. You know as far as you know breaking down quarterback they feel like is issues. Aren't necessarily all him they could fix and that kind of stuff so i. I don't think you'll gonna try to bail on him right now. I'd like you said you know. They don't even know what they have in and jalen hurt so like they had the socio with how that plays out it may not. He may not even be better than once for them. Who knows i will say. It's fun that you know jalen hurts is getting the start this week and he's playing tastes hill says would be pretty fun to see You know who comes out on top there to be a. It should be a fun game. I mean you figure the very least she'd been fun to watch so We'll see josh. What your thoughts on this really quick before we get the next one they all year long. I've been looking at carson wentz's numbers as i go through the quarterback staff and he's just super weird because he's he's out there just slinging it deep you know. He has a high number of air yards per attempt but his conversion rate is terrible. But the kim in the forty percents forty two percent. And i mean no one else no one else. Is that low. So i don't know. I honestly i think another team might take a shot on him. Because he's had he's had good seasons. You know two or three years ago we had that like carson wentz. Qb one season inc and right now he doesn't have any weapons so it i i'm i'm not so sure that he's bad. It doesn't look great. But i wouldn't be surprised if someone wanted to take shine. Yeah but you think. The eagles would more likely next year. Have him in another team. Correct i want to see him traded. I think i have a deal in advance. I wouldn't mind it at all for sure. But i just think it'll be tough so we'll see plays out man. This is a this is one of those fun offseason potentially dramas that we're going to get to watching. Keep our attention on wall things. Get slow and we'll see how it plays results of quickly or for going into next. You're talking about you know. Jalen hurts as a legitimate. You know challenged battle at camp. We'll see we'll see how it plays out A good question from barrel their next one at justin underscore redwoods shout. Johnston shot the justin. He put will you guys be relieved when the two thousand twenty season is over or you better at Compartmentalize in hacking fucking re just in camera than i am. I have avoided letting the kovic season stress. You out josh. I- will be relieved. I will be relieved. I look hard to off-season rankings plan or game again man. I don't know if you guys remember what kobe life was like before we had. Football's a distraction but No i will not be relieved. I will be probably a lot more anxious because there will be one giant distraction that goes away and all i have to focus on is the craziness that is the world right. Now so yeah. I won't more distractions and seeing as we're not gonna get any new tv you know. Hbo's doing that crazy thing. Where releasing all the movies in the world. But everybody's gonna watch those the first two weeks of january and then what then. What are we going to do with our lives. Super bowl is going to be over. And we're all going to be on lockdown again for god knows how long nothing to do. It's going to be all this is why enemies year round gives me somebody to care about but yeah i am not going to be happy. I am much more anxious about it. Ending and not having a distraction. I can tell you if you didn't talk to adam before the season started. He was iraq. This guy was it was crazy just is getting crazy so yeah i hope for your sake man. There's something else that comes up. Or you know i don't know man something but Yeah no no. We're not happy. We're not related Josh is relieved. Josh so shot. The josh and stop with the big words justin. I'm not a writer. Bad grammar used a little tougher Fumbling over the words here man compartmentalize in san yong Fucked up all right. At austin underscored g underscore h. after a stellar performance against a tough coast defence. A bill o'brien list. Kiki coutinho can emerge as a legitimate weapon for watson. We just kinda spoke about this a little bit earlier Just to make it clear for austin. I do think that kiki is legitimate I don't think it's can be like dynasty play because of other guys were there and players are going to get healthy and they're gonna add player so like from dynasty restrictive Excited about it but like to finish out this year if you need him in playoffs i'm fine with it But adam joshua's be clear adam. I legitimate weapon for watson or not. I mean it's going to be like a end of the bench. Kind of flex sky But i mean ill epidemic with how much they targeted last week. I mean it definitely seems like he's going to be the number one and number two option behind cook so mccain. I assume josh. No 'cause hansen. Deputy get hot for two or three games than if you have him in dynasty and you can get more than a third for you should self. Okay makes sense all right. That doesn't answer the question that persuaded to for dancing protective so all right cool Sorry for answering the question. Kinda sorta earlier austin but Yeah as we feel last one at you. Boy j rich. This is a fun one if you could give each other a christmas gift. Let's say harare budget. What would it be josh. Wanna start with this woman. I've been thinking about this. Okay so so i would get. I would get neil. I think i would get him a babysitter. I think that a gift. For neil the live is can you afford that on under one hundred bucks these days. Or how many hours can you get for that. How much do babysitters charge down. I think he just about go for a day. This afternoon is when we learned. Josh lives in oklahoma. Take do you think you can go out for a hundred bucks to a baby sitter. Probably know how far that'd get you in chicago and it's like four or five hours. Yeah probably not too long once they meet my kids. I'll probably get surcharges or something. Like the back in. I'll get hit with taxes and everything else rally is not to play out well but i mean i appreciate josh. Give me an hour to you. Know appreciate i think adam i think adam would like he. He goes travels and sees friends and stuff like that. Some maybe an airbnb gift card up to the house thinking. Okay very Gift card during cova fascinating gift. Aren't you send me some of your antibodies. Before i go you do that. Can you give me a viol- your antibodies. Hawk dollars sir. Sounds like you're trying to be killed over here. you can. we make sure my babysitter's cova free also before she comes here. No now they get as the rescue run. The words cheap and augie covered them edge. I try to knock us both offer sterile ask bad. I really haven't given this question a lot of thought. Because i didn't have an opportunity to i. I didn't. I didn't even see this question so i'm blanking hard but i just thought of one for neil. I don't it would be able to tell me if i could get this for under a hundred bucks but i'm pretty sure i could In maybe not under a hundred bucks. I'm just going to say it anyway. In autograph darren waller the outtake that for sure. I i guess depending on the card you probably get a front hundred. I give good gifts and for josh. I dunno polio. Maybe wow omit music thing you know for for josh Man i feel like i'd wanna get you something for camp life because you've been doing like a lava camping lately but then again we're heading into the winter months so How much you'll get to enjoy that. I don't know what you're lacking. So i'm just going to throw out something that in my life. I've been really happy to have which might not be as directly applicable for gas. But you know throwing it out there. Because i think it's actually like a general gift idea for people who have small apartments or smaller space And that's that's like a standing or amounted desk. I love mounted. I'm using it right now while. I'm reporting the spa gas. And there's something about just having like this smallest amount of space used possible by desk that i frigging love because most desk like big and bulky and take up the entire space in a room So yeah i think Josh like space right. I know you just downsize a little bit. Susa the sexually. This might work. Yeah that's not a bad idea. I kind of like that. I don't actually know if he downsizing if you mounted at the right size can also be like a standing desk or you. Can you know encourage yourself to stand more because it can work as such. I've seen the that that go up and down like they're adjustable. Yeah have one of those for work there. All right I mean definitely gets you standing more but but yeah they're also pretty expensive You know to go back on our hundred dollar limit. I don't know one of those hundred. But i know a monopoly desk is i might if i might need if i a discount by by both you fuck. Mike's that's by going to stay. I'm pretty. I'm pretty close to a hundred dollar mike. I have that you hate. I might throw in an extra hundred. Okay here's my thing. I actually want you to do that. So that i can prove issues that its reporting over skype but now now we're getting off the podcast. Listen the trial there things in fellas. We'll see we'll see. Maybe i'll get a one hundred dollar car towards some other streaming site work better. We'll be the way. I got an idea that you can do. That would be a great gift to josh. Deny take that two hundred dollars spread across trash. And i and find some kid out there who wants to write the outline week after week. That's good as well. That'd be the greatest gift. It'd be better than josh joplin. A bunch of players names saying that. He's two weeks in a row on that. Just this everyone's clear johnson's contribution at first until there's is jobs a bunch of players names and says i added notes. No he says beezer players that i would like us to talk about. Yeah and that's it. Congrats guys half with that group. That's not helping. It kneels out here air dirty laundry. Listen let's let's. That's a great question. Jay rich we appreciate it man That was a fun to close the listener questions. Outwit less job overnight. So obvious lock of the week. Not sure if the two have been paying attention but this gain was played today gave their boy. The w yeah. I'm done taking deep picks. I'm gonna i'm gonna start taken players. Who are picked to the fifth row drafts. Listen to this guy this this guy. Hey we have the caveat in place if you pick someone good they have to do. Grade and markey's brown scored a touchdown. God right around fifteen. Pbr point so. I don't know how josh did this week. But i know i did awful. So a million guests who won. I definitely one them. Sadly forty yards no touchdowns. Nothing so i definitely want definitely deserved it. I i mean. I won the regular season here guys so the question is do you guys want to continue this into the playoffs or you will shook at this point. I like trying to end it. While you're winning old crap. I can win out from here on out. i tell you. Think or maybe you've been win. That's probably true. That's fine that's fine. We'll keep this going. I'm just letting everyone know. I'm leading this thing. I feel comfortable right out so i'll start off the week. We've we've talked about this team a few times. You've actually talked about his other teammates. You guys know where fan of this rookie receiver. Even adams said. He thought the game was going to be a a shootout of sorts. So i'm going to gabriel davis buffalo wire receiver. Even when stefan day says good. Even kobe's he does good the rookie. Find his way into the game. Even for his colby. Touchdowns gabriel davis is a playmaker. The bills know it. I know it the listeners know it. I'm real gabriel davis Pittsburgh this week. That is my not so obvious. Lock of the week Josh who do you have. I want you to know before. I tell you that in a desperate situation where i ended up losing anyways i did start. Henry ruggs last week in a lineup. You're an asshole. Because i asked the question in a group chat. I said listen. Guys got a few different options here. I got a few different options. Have I didn't even know if i mentioned that i had rugs in there but i'm like i got rugs. You know josh reynolds. Gabriel davis and you guys were like. Josh reynolds duh yasser all like you know just pushing this narrative that it has to be josh reynolds and reynolds fan. So you know. I'm easy to convince when it comes to this stuff But i was like all right. I mean everyone seems to be saying josh reynolds. It's not who i had in. But he's available. Switch them out every single player. Besides josh reynolds did good game every single about us rentals by the way every said he didn't push them on me. You said every single player. adam josh. Yeah it is very tough. You're like henry ruggs. He can do. Good gabriel davis. Not too bad either. Yeah you can't say everyone josh. How this thing works. Well enough fair i think. A real davis. Who are you taking this week. I'm a real chad benson. This is not. Chris hansen from declining dumpster. Diving this week it. Listen is that is that chris hansen from deland amec's they catch a guy that will be all right. So hanson davis. You say we're dumpster diving atom. I'd love to hear who you have. Sir we'll i had to just for this occasion i wanted to know. Are we going with markey's brown type ix there. We go dumpster diving. And we're going dumpster and i'm going to the trash bin picking a guy from a team that has won a game all year. am not denzel mems. 'cause that's silly but i'm gonna ride the i johnson bandwagon. I think that you know if they get into another game script where they can feed the running back in any capacity They're they're gonna be feeding one guy the ball and Upside johnson You know if you can get some work in the passing game. They're playing the seahawks is going to be probably blow out. But a the seahawks passing games terrible. And you know the jets can move the football the heads. That's all i need for some opportunities to Scores touchdowns so give me tie johnson and Yeah i I'll go deep with you guys once again. You have. gabriel davis. Chris hansen from abc son. Anti johnson All right that's gonna be fun will throw it to twitter. We'll see what they think. We'll see where who side with this all trash player week of gordon adam. So we'll see which Pilot trash they choose but this is be a fun and siemian is way too close to close season out. I feel good. I'm gonna lead comfortable This nice guys. I appreciate you guys for another. W this week we'll see how it plays out Let's go to fowler no foul as we begin a wrap this show up. I have a few guys. The first one. Floyd mayweather vs logan paul. We'll have as many viewers as a regular mayweather fight will fowler no foul keep in mind. He's fighting. I know mayweather's passes prime. I know it's all over. i noticed. Expedition is not real. This that are not understand. These logan paul right guys. Eighteen instagram followers. Whatever it is these guys got fans for days. So it's fans logan paul fans for whatever they do concentration they are all a part of all these amazing things they do. Will they have as many viewers as a regular mayweather fight foul. Or i mean they will say they will fowler. Allow them as a regular mayweather fight in. What are we considering. Regular one of his popular mcgregor fight regular. I guess mcgregor well then no no way in hell. Are they getting anywhere. Near the conor mcgregor numbers. But i bet you they get close to what What the tyson numbers were Like one point five one point. Six mil pass it will that will they passed it. Probably oh man. I'm gonna say no. I think it's going to be right around there. Things are going to be like one million to one point. Five million in pay per view buys I think that you know anyone who paid to watch jake. Paul like we're paying four. Jake paul probably gonna pay for logan paul. I think most of the boxing heads who are going to pay for an exhibition. Match between floyd and logan probably the same guys who are going to pay for one with tyson and Jones junior so for me like. I think it's going to be pretty much the same sort audience. That's going to be watching. And then you had a bunch of caveats at the start. So i'm not even gonna get into why. This is the dumbest thing in the world. But i mean logan poll even lost the only fight he's ever had like. What are we doing. Yeah this is another youtuber like. It's just silly. If it was jake i'd at least feel like all right sir. He just you know flatlined the guy this kind of fun immediately. Turn around and make a fight with floyd. But then when i found out with logan i'm like what are we doing like really. What is the point of this and the point is to take your money and People are to give them money so the only thing that i would say that will help them. I don't know if you saw this but the The pay-per-view cost is relative to when you purchase it so something like the first million pay per view buys or up to a certain date. Can't recall which it is. It's only twenty nine ninety nine thirty bucks and then incrementally goes up from there so that might incentivize more people to buy because they're buying early at lower prices so there there's a possibility that they're structuring of it. Could push them closer to link the two million pay-per-view mark. But i mean even if they surpass million i mean that's that's huge franz has purposes. I mean i think the ufc had one pay per view all year. That went over. A million pay per view buys so. Yeah i mean it's a big deal all right at that's fair. Let me actually this. Josh switching to liberty for you fly may weather still impala. somebody will get knocked out fowler novell. Somebody's getting nine. Adam doesn't agree. He thinks be super. Saad dumps. Fuck immortal just you watch any combat sports. what are we doing. Knock somebody especially somebody who doesn't really know what they're doing right. I don't know i mean. Did floyd knock out the japanese guy that he fought. I think that was his last fight. And it was an exhibition match against the you die changes in japanese star whatever. It was either japanese or south korean and can't remember and i feel bad for not remembering Specifically because i don't mean to generalize but but yeah i mean it was another exhibition fight to get up. Yeah i mean it's going to be the same thing guys the wwe boxing. Honestly if you like boxing at all you should utterly hate what it's become because that pooh-poohing audience man. The people who are the most pay per view buys are going to fights. That aren't even real. It's just it's the wwe boxing and then you know you have real legitimate boxers that no one watches as we need you to appreciate this. You just got done talking about how stressed out and exile and this and that during covid nothing lodge. Come on man show some. I'm not paying money for an. Hey hey hey hey. We don't talk to me that you have to watch it. We live josh. Do news paying money for this stuff are we. Let josh admit to legal illegal acts not keep ours that we need at least two host here. all right the government will try to force everyone to get covid vaccines. They do kid shots for school. Fowler no foul adam and you guys really wanna take me down china take you there man Will they force people to like. They do first flu shots for school. Yes and i like the way that you had that caveat in there they're not going to force anyone they are however going to make it a requirement in order to do certain things. That's the difference that i see So i don't think necessarily anybody's going to be forced to take gate. You know back seen just like nobody's forced to take really any other vaccine but will they be requirements for things like going to school just like getting a vaccine for the measles is yeah for the exact same reasons as one of the what he thought. Man i want to see what you thought. Here josh. the agreement. Y- i i don't know if they will require. I mean we're still not requiring people to wear masks by would be. I feel very okay about covid vaccine. They they can give me. I will take my vaccine even if it has a stupid chip in it. Which is no okay. Stummer their hate. I hate that. We've gotten to the point where conspiracy theories are such a joke that the idea is they would put h. sipping a vaccine okay. i wear. That idea even came from is so fucking hilarious to me guys. We carry around a tracking device with us. Everywhere we go. I don't know what this chip is supposed to do. That's going to be so important that they'd have to sneak a vaccine to us. But that's not the concern. The concern is what has happened with actual vaccines for other things that haven't gone through extensive testing. Which is they have side effects and some of those side effects on certain vaccines have been as bad as causing infertility. So there are things that vaccines can have. That aren't microchips than the that are still really bad for the human body. So yeah i mean i get people's apprehension to just being like him take any vaccine that they put out there. That to me is an okay thing to have some apprehension around. I don't know what's in it. I don't know long-term effects. There's reasons to have some sort of apprehension to that. I don't think any of that apprehension is based in lieu gonna use that to put a microchip in me to keep track of where i am because let's be honest. They're already doing that very easily. Listen i will like to announce that we've hit the trifecta with adam today. We've had them. Slander odell beckham. We've had sander floyd mayweather in logan policy site. And now we've got him down the conspiracy vaccine issues so this trifecta for atta we appreciate all your. Hey i'm not handy but acts it off. The kids vaccinated is very important. This is a very rare situation. Where vaccine is being made on the spot and it isn't going through the same testing it. Just it's different. It should be different. I don't want to be made out to be sent back your complaints. Contact clock dodgers dot com and hey are thing extensively like they're not cutting corners on on safety and that's what will even folks. They've already administered it to a person so we'll say forty thousand people. Well i'm saying outside of the test runs they today. buys adviser. I think it is did their first. Like actual application of it outside of just trial run. So we'll we'll we'll see what happens. I mean it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting to see how it plays out and how it affects social changes in policy changes in government and all that sort of fund. So yeah nothing but fun nothing to find and alas found that i had here for you guys not helping someone who looks they need help but isn't asking for it is okay fowler. No foul at them. You guys are going to hate me on this one It's no foul I think it's a really important to learn in life to ask for support when you need it. I think it's one of the things culturally that We struggle the most with I don't know if that's an american thing per se. Because i i'll be honest. I'm not super worldly. I don't know if people experience this all over and it's just a human thing But it's one thing that learn going through personal development seminars early twenties but the power of asking for support and being vulnerable enough to ask when you need support is huge. And also the implication that you're someone who is in need Can often come from a place of judgment Seeing somebody in a situation and just automatically assuming that they need year assistance to be able to get through into thrive without them asking for it. I can totally understand why that's majority of his time. That's planned coming from a very good place them. Almost all the time is going to be received from a very good place There are going to be those situations where you're trying to put out. You know this good intention to help someone But they're not in need of your assistance And i think that that's why it's important for people when they are needed assistance to ask but we all know people don't do that so it's a complicated question But why would like to say is. I think there's power in asking for support But that being said. I think it's also really important. Always looking for your fellow man and to see when people are needed and to try and assess the situations because as we know people are apt to ask for this. The need yeah. I thought about this. Because i've i've found myself a lot lately especially with kobe. And everything. if someone around me like drops something. I don't help them pick it up like if they're pandemic yeah and then like i see the old lady today at the grocery store. She was looking at higher on the shelf. And i'm not sure. If she was looking at some she was saying but how to get it or she's looking for something and how say mandatory offer help or do i just leave it alone. I didn't offer help. Because i'm like you know if she needs issues as such a good point. Yeah yeah yeah that's true. I mean it circles back to what i was just saying about asking for support but it is interesting to like. Look at how are you know. Social habits are just changing because of covid lee and being socialized to not interact with one another in ways that we would have the very normally before. Yeah i was something. I feel like an asshole an ornament. I'm like fuck. I don't know what i'll sit here. Don't want to you know. go for it by now. You know what i mean. Sound like shit. I'm gonna leave it. I dunno josh. Tae man. I what was the original No fell so not helping someone who looks like they need help. But they're not asking for it though to the struggling with something may need help with not asking though so i just ignore it. I think most of the time. I'm going to wait for them to ask. Okay so not a total asshole. Then it seems like you guys may be both astles with me or this is the common. Move to make But you know sometimes. I try to get out there and help people extra Bid other reasons and sometimes it doesn't knowing me when someone doesn't saying because they're like looking for you to ask So we'll see all right cool so i'm not the only one that's different during covid or just in general. It's not a fun thing. Act somebody they need help. And you're not sure closing in show intel this our last moment the podcast inlet where we can share thaad advice product. Anything you feel like sharing with the listeners. And they always share them back with those fun the his up on twitter all that good stuff so we appreciate you guys doing that. I'll start off algebra the gate here with a little Little pizza oven pizza action. That had the other day motorcity. Pizza co never had in my life never seen it my life. It was in walmart. Was it public. I'm not sure we're star was in. But i seen and i said this looks interesting. I've never tried this piece of before you know oven that you bake home could be hit or miss dependent on the brand the quality all that kind of good stuff but this one actually hit the park man. Deep dish good stuff. I enjoyed it. It was nice man. So if you're looking for an oven piece for home for the family is trying to relax. Take it to eat not not trying to go out all those good stuff motorcity piece of of anyone else's familiar with it having come across anybody else who's tried yet. I'm sure it's popular somewhere and just got here but it was good stuff man for some other pizza so shout to motorcity piece ago. Adam you know. I actually have to I had one But then i just had another one that appeared basically like an hour before we started recording So the one. That i was going to mention though. We're just off the top. But i was planning on is kind of unique. It's the first time. I think i've ever mentioned something that i haven't actually consumed or watch store experience because it was just announced but on december seventeen Comedian andrew shoals is having a tv show show on that links of it's called soul saves america And i don't know you guys caught Any of the little videos that he was doing on instagram had gone really popular. But it's an expansion on that and he was really just kind of doing another play on kind of that daily show motif that we've had for awhile person talking square box next to different things. Come up you know the. That's sort of format if you will But andrew shows has comedian. Who i've been a giant fan of for a long time. Now i mean i. I'm hard pressed to find any stand up comedian. That i think is funnier than him. to me he's just the top of the game right now and i am super excited as someone who's been a fan of him for a pretty decent amount of time now that he's getting this sort of opportunity on super excited to watch the show. I think it should be fantastic. So that's something that i was planning on talking about. I really hope. I bring goes out there and watch and Yeah i'm really excited to watch myself and then literally an hour before we came on the podcast Twenty one pilots to have been my favor. Banned for god's seven eight years now just released a christmas song which was super unique You know and no. It's something that probably isn't going to hit everybody But if you like christmas music If you like anything you've heard previously from twenty one pilots. It's definitely interesting. It's a by far one of the most unique songs that i've heard But i think anytime that you do something like for a holiday or that's like a special one off sort of song. I kind of appreciate when it's a lot different than the rest of your body of super happy to see that as well and Yeah go check out their Their new single What is the thing about december stomach team. The fan to manson. I'm excited for that. Excited and song sounds cool as well to check it out just because you're saying it's interesting. I'm curious christmas song for them. You don't often hear artists released christmas song. So you just kind of caught off guard by then even releasing okay. I guess and Yeah i mean. I like it. It's not my favorite thing. I've ever heard by initially machination. But if somebody who's not really like a big fan of christmas music it's definitely a unique take. I do like the feel of it. Gotcha camping out Josh you may think show and south today sir. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 680: Whats Next For The NFL?

GSMC Football Podcast

1:46:14 hr | 7 months ago

GSMC Football Podcast Episode 680: Whats Next For The NFL?

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football under golden state media concepts, football podcast latest news on and off the field. Be It college football ten. Sec. Twelve Pack Twelve ACC to the. NFL. With got you covered listen to golden state media concepts, football podcasts. took. ME. Low. Ladies and gentlemen. This is the GSM. See Football podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network I am your host. You guys already know who it is your boy cave on Zombie always coming at you live from north. Carolina. We thank everyone for listening to us wherever you are. However, you're listening wherever you're listening. We appreciate you on for taking time out of your busy and your lovely day to listen to the GMC. PODCASTS. Football podcast and we couldn't be more excited about it because we've got a great today. Is Beautiful beautiful here in North Carolina eight it actually feels like fall. It has that football feeling everybody knows what that fall football feeling is like it's that true. Walk outside sixty degrees the sun is out, but there's a little bit of a cool brisk in the air. And it just you know it makes. It feels like some normalcy is in the world when you have that feeling and I hope you guys are all some great weather wherever you are as well. And we have a great show. You know as I said, it does feel like there's some normalcy in the world when you have that weather but unfortunately We are not back to normal times as there is a lot of breaking news going on in the NFL world right now, and we're going to dive into all of it right off the bat and see how that affects your football team how defects nfl how that affects fantasy. And we're going to break it all down, and of course I'm coming at you guys in two segments from now. So once we come out a halftime segment number three, we are going to be bringing on emit winding in. It is the offensive football host for. GSM. See Golden state media concepts, fantasy football show. Host that show twice a week you guys can check that out wherever you are listening to this podcast. You can find out as well. He does a really good job over there. He will help you win your fantasy lineup, go check that out but he will be joining us just like he did last week for the last two segments on this show, and we're going to have a lot. Of Fun, with what we're GONNA do is for the first segment, we're going to break down football or talk about the chiefs if they can go undefeated, who is the best competition against the chiefs in the AFC of and then we will talk all fantasy. He will give you guys rundown of his favorite quarterback running back receiver tightening defense and who to play with all of this stuff going on. With teams playing this week because of the Cova nineteen outbreak, and that's where we're going to start here in a minute but real quick I just want to. Give you guys a little update on what is happening with my day here before we get into some of the unfortunate news that is now going on on. Greenville North Carolina. I. Told You guys you. My girlfriend goes to college. GOES TO MED school here in at Ecu Eastern Carolina University, of also known as Ecu I'm sure many of you have heard of the football teamer or or something about it here in North Carolina. So I'm over here doing the show from her apartment and it's great and it feels Great, you know like I said Great Day but the thing about Greenville and I'm not heating and you wanted in Greenville that's listening I appreciate you. It's a nice little small town, right? It's. A college town you know it just feels like the town is built around the university, which is fine I. It's Great. You know some those are some of the best talent, but it's definitely got that small country by to it. So today they're they're famous for not today, but every every day they're famous for barbecue, and that's what they're famous for North Carolina in general is famous. Barbecue but Greenville is has some of the best barbecue joints you could find. There's a place right up the road from my girlfriend's house called B.'s barbecue and. It's so good that. They. Don't get there by eleven in the morning you're not going to they closed down like the code as much. The morning as they can, and once they run out, they're done they're done you have to get early enough to get your barbecued you want for the day or you're going to have to go somewhere else. So I got there at ten thirty this morning. At Ten thirty I'm in line barbecue I mean it's football Saturday right I got him by barbecue so. I'm really happy right now because I got a couple pounds of barbecue, I got some Coleslaw I got some cheeky. And I'm full I'm very full. So we'll see how could this show does but I got some more waiting for me after. So I can sit down and watch some more football with my barbecue made a good barbecue CEO engine thing about North Carolina Barbecue is and miss. B's Barbecue place they keep you some sauce. It's like a bitter sauce I. Know some people are like Whoa Whoa Whoa. How can you your barbecue assaults like you're a fraud? This sauce. Good. This sources legit I'm telling you guys you got to check it out. It's got that vinegary taste to it and hope of all it is good. It is good. So I'm a Happy Camper Day right I'm a happy camper. I got my barbecue in my tummy he's happy we're good to go and yes, I did just say tell me as a twenty six year old man but I'm okay with you I. Am I very very confident in myself was saying talking. All right. So I hope you guys are all as happy. Am Today we have football on lot of great college matchups Bama Alabama facing. Jimbo Fisher in Texas A and M. We got a really good Georgia Auburn game. This is so crazy. It's October. It's the first weekend of October in Georgia and Auburn facing off I, don't think in the history of the sec that has ever happened. Usually we get that November indeed November Auburn. Georgia game. So with happening now. That's GONNA be weird and I hope it's a good one I. Hope both teams are ready to go on. I'll be very excited to see how that is and you know we've got the release of the pack. Twelve schedule has come out Oregon opens up against Stanford that would be a fun one to watch as we move forward. And we got along great stuff going on in the college world but we have a NFL show mainly and we've talked about the breaking news that is going down in NFL. That is that the Tennessee Titans? Now. Gone up to eight players testing positive for Cova Nineteen, sixteen total members of the Titans Organization with people on the staff. and. So total eight players at sixteen total. When you count the staff verse It looks like it's just keeps going here. Hopefully that is it hopefully no one else will test positive, but we officially have our first outbreak of the NFL season. Now let's let me take you guys back a little bit. Okay. Do you remember? When we came on this show. When baseball just started and the Miami Marlins had were the first team began outbreak and in Saint Louis Corals now break and everyone was crushing baseball. They said, you know you took too long figuring out the money side of things. And you didn't really look at what's going on with cove and I even crushed baseball and rob Manfred as well. Well. You have to give props to baseball now because they figured it out and they're now in the postseason and it's been great postseason so far. But what they were able to do to figure it out is first of all, they said, you know you gotta teach onus on yourself. You got the organizations have to be charges. If the organizations WANNA play baseball, you have to make sure you're following protocols. This is going to be the same with NFL, but the one thing about baseball is they were okay. They said coming into the season we're already doing a short season were okay. If some teams place different numbers of games like Miami Note, did it play anywhere near the amount of games that Chicago Coakley but they both made the playoffs On Your what I'm saying, you can't have that with NFL you can't have a a a team play sixteen games, and in another team play twelve games that makes things very unfair in NFL because there's already such a small amount of games anyways. Thought, that's not the biggest issue here. We'll get into that. The biggest issue is first making sure that everyone's okay right we want players to be okay. I. Get it. They're young. They'RE NFL players they're in good shape and they should be okay. But you never know what this fire second the coaches the coaches are older. The owners are owner. So that's something to worry about our I these coaches, these these older had. Their older none of them are all in great shape. So you first of all wish the best health and that everyone's saved recover at Titans Organization as well as Cam it who has also been tested positive for cove in nineteen as well as the Kansas City chiefs backup quarterback Jordan. Who is their? Practice player quarterback he wrote scouting right. So last week he was running scout team trying to emulate labarge accents that the chiefs defense can get a good idea of how to go up against him. So that's worrisome because a quarterback see one of the one of the biggest things that these coaches in these genes were most worried about is quarterbacks quarterbacks getting the virus because of quarterback. Is the center of everything a quarterback is always touching the football. He's throwing the football and other members of the team. He's in the quarterback meetings. He's in the offensive meetings. He's in the huddle with these players like they did not want. We're back. They didn't want anyone to get the virus obviously, but Kevin Camp do and get that virus that is very worrisome for the new. England patriots. Now, this is the whole thing about all this stuff. All right. The first of all crew, the corona virus is extremely contagious. We all news and it was honestly dumped to thank that at some point this wasn't going to happen now I do think what happened is the first three weeks of the NFL season have gone so good and things have looked great in terms of. Following protocols mainly in and just not having positive tests. Now, there's been a lot of coaches that have been fined for not wearing masks, but you have to you know really give props to the NFL for this because they nip that in the bud quick by giving these coaches in these organizations hefty five percent if you're on the sideline again with no, this is what's going. To happen, and that's where I I want to start off by saying good job to the NFL. K. People are going to rip the NFL because that's just how this is going to go. Someone's going to have to take the fall this but the NFL was doing the best job that they can do. They're making sure that each player is able to get tested every single day. Multiple, times, A. Each stack member everyone involved in each organization right so that's a huge check to start this off now. That's where we give them credit leading through that also. They're clearly taking things series. All right. They're seeing coaches without mass. They're finding native of boatload of money a so much money where people are saying, are you kidding me but that's good. That's what you want. You want them to take them serious second there what they did with the titans game. They realized when there was only three players, three players that tested positive. This is before we got to sixteen total at first there was only three titans players to test positive and the NFL. A mealy made the tight in shutdown, their organization Y. because they didn't want what is happening now to happen now, it happened anyways because this virus is so contagious, but you have to give the NFL props because it. Did Not Make Tennessee shut down their organization and make everyone need not able to come back. This could be way worse than it already is. So I love the seriousness that the NFL is taking this. They're not. They're not saying, Hey, this is. This is a joke. We don't want everything will be fine. We're GONNA move along and play with the players that are not posit no, they're taking this for real and I love that now. Where the NFL did screw up is not creating multiple weeks to reschedule games. They should have said this before the season, they should give every team to buy weeks this season, make it an anomaly season. It's already going to be an odd one so that every team has an extra week to reschedule if something like this happens. All right. They were able to reschedule this game and they'll be able to reschedule couple more but if this keeps happening towards Asians, it's going to become a problem. And that's when the whole competitive advantage of a season gets into play, which we'll get into as we go. This is what I want to focus on now. Okay. Because again, people were going to attack the NFL they're going to say that the NFL is to blame for this and that is wrong who is to blame for this. Is No individual you can't blame an individual. Okay. What you can do is you can blame an entire organization. Now, I am not inside the Tennessee Titans Locker Room. I have not inside the Tennessee Titans billick. I do not know how this story, how the WHO got the first test and how it's spread from there. What I do know though is the Atlanta Falcons. Had A player last week in the name of Asia Terrell he's a rookie coming. He was the first round pick of tight. It's quarterback play for Clemson won a national championship for clubs in great player. He tested positive for coma, nineteen. Now he was in the building all week. Okay. He was there. He was practicing all week. He was in meetings all week. He was in the Falcons building all week he tested positive on Friday night. The Falcons find found out that he was positive. They immediately tested everyone else in that. Falcons. Organization or players coaches all staffs everyone not one other person was tested positive. What does that tell you? It tells you one day the Falcons to this series the falcons. Made sure to have everybody where masks every single time they stepped foot inside the organization inside the building they have there's there meeting sex like space dow, six feet apart they showed pictures of it. They have each chair of space out in their meeting rooms. They are following protocol. Okay. There is no possible way a player that has corona virus these. So contagious corona virus doesn't give it to anyone else if they're not following protocal. I. Mean the whole team had now. Again. I. Don't know what is going on in that titans. Organization. But you can put common sense together to say that clearly. At least some of the people in this tight organization were not following protocol. And that is how it spread. Now look this virus is unfortunate. It really is okay. It can. You can. You can get in so many different ways, and sometime you can't follow protocols and where your mask and social visits it'll. You still could get it. That is possible because it's so contagious, right but. If you are wearing a mask every second you are inactivity if you're not taking it off for one quick admitted or anything like that if you are social distancing every single meeting, not just a couple of the meetings, not just here in there every meeting. You have a very a much higher chance to not spread the virus when someone gets it. And clearly, the titans have been a little bit last lackadaisical on that. Maybe they were on the way on the plane hold from Minnesota, celebrating a win and they didn't have all have their maskell. It could have happened in so many different ways. But that's the problem with this virus. It will happen if these teams don't take it seriously. Now we what are we see happen here with the Patriots we have now found out that Cam Newton. has tested positive, and again, I am not blaming a certain player here. I didn't know what people to blame, Cam, Newton, Cam Newton, and I know that's GonNa Happen and I feel so bad for Cam Newton because he has just been everything short of unperfect. This season you know he's been working hard. He's been saying the right things in the media he's been. A team player and I love to see that resurgence in him now that fire him and he's having a great season on the field as well. So I hate this for him. But clearly. He got the virus somehow. And it happens it's the virus, and now we're going to find out if the Patriots had been doing what the Falcons were doing or if they were doing what the titans were doing, were they following protocols if they were falling protocols did hopefully, this will be the only positive tests in that organization, which will be huge, which will then show that that titans thing was just a lucky scenario. I mean that Falcons was just a lucky scenario. No, it will show that. Okay. We now have a sample size of two organizations that have had a player test. And that's it. It hasn't spread. So I am having fingers crossed here that one can't do in is okay and is healthy. It is find is GonNa be alright and then to that the Patriots were following protocols and you would think of when you think of the Patriots, you would think that this is the one team that bill would make. Sure. Is following. The Protocols. Bill Bell is all the rules. He's a strict he stirred, and you would think that he has his players following these protocols you really would, and I hope so and we will find out now would it coast to? What the players are going, what the NFL is going to do with these days. All right. So we just saw that the NFL has announced. Obviously, the Titan steelers game is postponed nets getting pushed back to like we seven I wanna say week seven or week eight and both the steelers the titans will now use their bye week this week the problem with the titans though is if they keep having people and staff and players test positive like they have three more this morning that next week game against the bills will not happen either it will not happen if come tomorrow Sunday more players are still testing positive in our organization like newer players. There's no way that they can play again on. Sunday. And that's when things club hit. So we have to hope that that outbreak is. And in the second thing we have to hope for is that this is a big wakeup call for every organization in the NFL things have been terrific. So far they really have before this whole outbreak with the titans. Encampment testing positive at age h real. There's it was it. One was testing causing. They were following protocols. They were following rules and threw three weeks. It looked great, and now we have a big thing going on and I already do people are going to hate on the NFL for this and that's not fair. It's not fair. All right. But what this hopefully is is a massive wakeup call for every organization out there and they're looking at this and they're saying, okay, wow, this is for you. We see what's happening with titans received it. We cannot let our guard down for one single second. This is going to be a seventeen week process of every single day where your mask every single day where social distancing sitting in your hotel room going nowhere else ordering food to the dropped off your hotel room to be dropped off at your house. If you want to get paid if you want to have Danes, that's what you have to do. So the positive of all of this is that hopefully it's a big wakeup call for every other organization. WHOA. We can't let this happen because. It happened to the titans. That's what we have to hope. Now, this is the GMC football podcast brought to you by the SEC podcast network. What we're GONNA do is we're gonNA take a quick break here. We come back we're going to look at. That New England Patriots, Kansas City chiefs game is it going to relieve you played on Tuesday it's so what does that mean for the game and what does that mean moving forward and remember coming up in one segment after that, we will then bring you on emit wineman host of the fantasy football show which sm see, and we will talk all things football at fantasy with him. So stay to do not go anywhere lots of breaking news going on lots to talk about before the NFL we for Sunday tomorrow stick with US let's dive into it. We'll be right back after this. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team check out the GMC fantasy football podcast get today's best advice on who to start who to sit even who you should draft from sleeper picks red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's GMC PODCAST DOT COM backslash fantasy dash football dash podcast. We'll cover traditionally dynasty feuchy are even IDP leads. When you need fantasy help, there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GS MC podcasts, dot com for more INFO. Welcome Back Welcome Back Ladies and gentlemen. This is the SEC football podcast I'm your host Cable Zombie everyone for tuning in today. Hope you have a lovely great weekend, beautiful weather wherever you are. However, you're listening we appreciate you for just taking some time out and listening to this great podcast. We put a lot of work in effort into it. So it means a lot to us coming up next segment in the Wiedeman from the. Fantasy football podcast is going to come on to talk all things fantasy football in regular football as well. We're GONNA talk about breakdown some games you know I. Had My red with the Philadelphia. Eagles, told Peterson not going to you don't go into tiny game instead of not trying to win it. And I went off on that. He is a resident cowboy fan that comes on this show. So we're going to get his thoughts on that and I'm sure he has some strong takes. That will be fun talk about we'll get his thoughts on. quarterbacks running backs you know sleeper wide receivers entitled to find that. For for fantasy this year at it much more. It's GonNa. Be a fun show so. Fun couple segments will do with him to in doubt the show suited for that on and let's just keep it rolling here told dated and I'll tell you what the breaking news everyone's talking about it. Cam New of the New England patriots has positive for cocaine Die Tijd, and now it's just wait and see. That we've already heard that the NFL is postponing this game on Sunday. Now, they are trying to move it back to Monday or Tuesday of this week. Just to give the really the recent that is for a lot of people saying, why would they not cancel it altogether postponing altogether like the titans and steelers it well, this is why first of all, if it becomes where it's just can't do that as tested positive, then they don't need to postponement right? I. Mean they postponed it from Sunday, but they don't need to postpone back another week now. Now just like what we saw with the. Falcons aged Toronto. Gets tested positive that the Falcons make sure that I. Make sure that nobody else in that building is positive. Everyone else is good to go boom. We played football game on. Sunday so works out that way. Now I, see a lot of people. This is a very good point saying, well, Hey, cave on. This is can't do it. You know it's to. Terrell. But AG trails a quarterback you could be the best quarterback. You're not gonNa have as much impact on a gave as new days because he's a quarterback and he's touching the ball every single time there on offense and this is a big deal. So does that become unfair? Well. Of course it's unfair. I think the chiefs were GonNA win the game. anyways. But obviously, the Patriots have had way more of chains to play that game I mean to actually keep that. It may even win an outright if can't do is play right because the Patriots had be Patrick holds before Nobel check, has the recipe to do it, which is you know put pressure on the holds make him uncomfortable. It's kind of like what you have to do to Brady we're Brady was in his pride in new. England we'll talk about that game war will break it down if it is going to happen but. It's a fair point right like. You. Don't WanNa Watch this game. You don't want the Patriots to play this game without can't do it because it. Really. It really has no indication on what this game really won't be like. But with that being said, we're into pandemic here and things are not going to be perfect. They're just not. They're nothing is going to be perfect. This season people are going to have to take these weeks like it's injuries right? It's just like you have to look at it like Kim noted is hurt this week and he'll be back next week hopefully. If. Everything's alright. You know he might actually end up missing two weeks the really the positive of all of this is. Hope we it's all. Right hopefully, there's no one else there that gets tested positive because that's when it becomes a huge issue. Is If. We have another outbreak. If we have another outbreak, they did start to get really trick and they get tricky from the standpoint of how are you going to start rescheduling these gates look the NFL decided not to do to buy weeks this year for each team I do not know why. I still do not get that but for some reason they have decided that would they started the season so it gives very little ru for teams to be able to maneuver for teams to be able to switch around their schedules because if you have to buy weeks well, did if you have to reschedule one gave Bill, you just put that gate in that by Gripe. Starts to become more than one game. That's what it becomes a real issue now. The problem this with the NFL you can't. Look. At this competitively and say it's fair for. The New England patriots to play. Fourteen Games. While, let's say just for, for instance, know the Miami Dolphins Herb will do buffalo bills actually the buffalo bills played sixty games and the Patriots have a more a better winning percentage because they played escape. So they're GonNa Win The AFC East. That's when things get unfair. That's when the whole competitive advantage state goes out the window. The whole be competitively fair thing goes out the window we can't you can't have that. This isn't baseball there. Is it so many games where you can play doubleheaders at all that there's only sixteen games if what what makes it? I felt so special, you know. That's what basis or special. There's every single gave is so important. It's like college football so This is what the NFL has to be worried about it and I probably see right now they are up there and there grinding their teeth. They're worried that they should be because this is scary. You know. You're you're now having an outbreak you are now exactly. What is happening with a Major League Baseball? There is out now this is the I think the positive of all this, we all do this was going to happen right now that's not a positive as it. Did have no we hate that happened. We wish it didn't have everyone who went into this season thinking that at some point, there's going to be a team or a couple players that test positive. Now we were doing that hoping. Okay. Maybe it doesn't end up happening but with just because it's not in a bubble and remember the NFL said that it just didn't seem like it was feasible. Did it seem like it was possible to make every team going to a? Bubble because you had to even if you just did city by city bubbles, which is what I said, they should do they should make every single organization bubble off their that their players and their staff for fifteen weeks sixteen weeks you do it, it would be tough but but you could get it done. If you really want to the NFL did not want to mess with that. So when you're traveling like this positive things are going to positive tests or going to happen. This is the key everything. Following the protocols. It's okay. If a couple of positive tests happens what's not okay is what we have with the Tennessee Titans and official outbreak where sixteen total people in that organization Dow have covid nineteen sixty people how the world are they going to play next week? I don't see that there's any way I really don't which means. They're going to have to reschedule two days. So they're already two days behind which did puts the teams that they're play it unfortunate situation. What are they going to do so? The Falcons are keep going back to the Falcons because that's the only thing that's happened so far, and I hope the Patriots ends up being the same thing in we'll find out as we go these next couple games. Aj. Terrell tested positive. He is now out of the Cobra Nineteen Bliss Liz which by the way, all those people saying that they'll be back in one week. Aj Tyrrell's not playing on Monday. Okay he's still on Cova nineteen and he got a logger break because we have the falcons have abundant night gave this week. So if you get tested positive for Kodak t the All likelihood is you're missing at least two, Gates? Okay. But. They did have an outbreak they had one player did it and not anyone else because they were following protocols yes. Of course, some of this has look it's Contagious buyers for the best you can do is you put your facility, your members in the facility, you put your ability everything. If the best possible position as you can be in that state of -tising, that is following protocols that boasted portly wearing masks. We'll see if the Patriots have been bowling protocols and if so most likely can't do, it will be the only one to test positive, and that's what we have to hope for. All right because again, positive tests are most likely to happen it is A. It's just how it happens. If it keeps happening like the titans situation did we need to start talking about k.? We even have a season can we even finish season? If it happens more to the Falcons and hopefully what happens with the Patriots they'd it's okay. You know what? We can actually work with this. We can actually work with and my only hope is. that. This sent a strong message to the league and most importantly every other organization out there. Every other word is Asian out there better be looking and say, okay so far we had no positive coronavirus tests pat on the back to us, but that is nothing to celebrate because we still have thirteen fourteen more weeks to go. and. We better step up our game. We cannot let our guard down for Boyd Second. Or could it could hinder our chances to make the playoffs? It could hinder our chances to play and you don't play. You don't make money. If you don't make money, you don't pay the players. So this is a team effort here. Everybody has something to lose if you're not playing. All right you've got to be responsible. You've got it. You've got to keep the protocols going. Got Make. Them stronger. You have to make a sharp if you want to find these players finding do whatever you have to do to make sure everyone is falling protocols this this I can tell you this as a fat for Curie people that know people within the NFL I have been told. Her is literally, I've been told by sources are pulled out the source car here. That the NFL is very, very nervous about when teens started to fall out of contention like the jets like the Broncos, my falcons game close to that area you know on all these three teams that might end up going Oh and four. Once they start to get okay mathematically, they're not able to make the play all city more what starts to happen did do these younger players starts get loose with their restrictions? Hey, we're not in the playoffs anymore. Let's go out and have some drinks you know whatever That's what the NFL I can tell you straight up the NFL is worried about that. And that's something that we have to keep an eye on and that's that's another thing you know make you we're, Hey, we'll find you whatever you have to do to make sure that these players understand that these organizations understand the mask must stay on at all times. You must not go anywhere else other than whole practice whole practice get food delivered to you want to eat out, get food delivered to you when you're traveling when you're in an orbit. When you're in a hotel, you sit in that hotel are they're not putting? You guys motel. Six's they're putting you in a very nice hotel rooms. Sit in the hotel room order your room service, put your legs up watch TV relapse. There's no need to go out and when you do go out you better keep that mask on all the time. That's just that simple. We wanted Chelsea's it. That's how it's going to have to be, and we just have to hope and pray that number one everyone is safe that has tested positive everyone is healthy that has tested positive for covert nineteen and then number two. This doesn't become a train. This. Doesn't become a tree. This is the GMC football podcast. I'm your host cave on Zombie. Now let's all break down and run through some games here before we headed to segment three where we bring in winding on and I've worked to actually run into that wrote a go through that up patriots chiefs game real quick look if it happens or if it doesn't happen can new in not playing and that's why I want to talk about it because again, if it happens Cam, Newton will not play if it doesn't happen at its. Later in the year that maybe he will play did but it all depends so. The thing is this I said last episode that if the chiefs beat the Patriots, this week they go undefeated. I said other than that. They've got a couple more hard games where they played the. Buffalo. Bills on Thursday night football. And did they also play? The Tampa Bay buccaneers later in the schedule, right? So if they could beat the Patriots. They have about two more games that are going to be tough. And they can do it and I said this I send looked at cheese for the chiefs to win going to feed it. You know for there's about thirteen teams in the League Patrick Mahomes doesn't even have to play good and they can still win there that stack. Then there's about five teams Patrick hopes has to play good to win, and that's like the Ravens and then there's like three teams two or three teams were Patrick Mahomes has to play. Perfect but PASOK beholds type football for them to win. All right. Those are to be the Patriots. And the Pittsburgh steelers. The Pittsburgh. steelers I've been thinking about it we to after we talked about it on kin day go undefeated I started to think what teams can actually challenge team who is the team that we're going to go with it coming up that is Best situation to beat the the Kansas City chiefs in the AFC, we're not talking in the AFC. It's the Pittsburgh steelers. You know why? Because they can't put pressure up the middle they bring pressure outside and that's how you beat. Behold. See if you guys remember Tom Brin in his in his day and look the whole different than Brady because. The can wrote and that's even more stare into that puts a way a whole other element on notice I mean he's not the more Jackson rugby he can move he can get first downs with his legs on. He's an athlete there's no doubt about that. But in Brady's heyday when he was with Patriots, Brady still looks good now about saying he, he's lost his touch with us with the Patriots and they were winning the superbowl. What was his one week? His one way the one way to beat him was pressure up the middle. How why did they lose to the giants of the Super? Bowl twice? Well, yeah. A couple of lucky plays by Eli, manning and. Although the offense and the crazy catch and all that stuff. But. The Defense Michael Straight ahead of those boys, they were coming up the middle they were making Brady of comfortable. That's how you a great quarterback that Falcons Super Bowl before Brady way on a frigate tear twenty eight to three without they were down twenty eight to three. Why because grady jared that defensive tackle had three sacks on him. In the first half. He was just knocking through him knocking through ahead. He was making Brady comfortable when when the Patriots beat the Kansas City chiefs a couple years ago they asked the title game they were making a holds uncomfortable and they were running the ball. Those are the two days you have to run the ball to keep the chiefs off the field. And then you have to make him uncomfortable Ryan get by going up the middle hitting him making him feel uncomfortable. Those are the only ways are going to be chiefs. I do not think that I do not think that England will be chiefs in the in the regular season I really think they can wanted I really do especially. If they end up playing this game and can't do it. It's not playing. Did that becomes just the bills on Thursday night and the bucket ears the teams that have a chance of beating again in my opinion. But in the postseason, I think that the Pittsburgh steelers had the best chance in the AFC. To actually put some serious pressure on Kansas City, and then even beated depending on as long as. A Big Ben Roethlisberger corestates healthy. Now, I wanted to move onto another big game of the day. This upcoming. Sunday. And that is the Cleveland Browns Against The Dallas Cowboys now, cleveland is two one of the first time in since two thousand fourteen we had on, go check this last episode out we had on image golden of ESPN radio. ESPN CLEVELAND RADIO AND ESPN national. Radio Great Guy. I. Mean Really Really Awesome Guy. It's the first segment of that last show. You guys should really go check it out and we had a great conversation about the browns and football general but you know he was talking to us about how You, know Baker is still not fully proven and last year a lot of fans lost some respect for him or lost some promise in him. Navy is a better way to put it because of. Just just how the year went. Right? He didn't look good that that freshman year that rookie year whatever you WANNA, call it. He looked really good but then it dropped off since. It's become a question of did look good that rookie year because of the competition or was it you know has he just lost some touch so they now go into Dallas morning to this is a must win game. A lot of people would say the Dallas should be win three if the Falcons didn't choke wave, forgot how to catch on side Kid, right? So you're at home now Dallas and the Cleveland browns are coming in and I get there two in one but don't let that four you in two teams that they'd be was the Cincinnati Bengals and the Washington football team. Those are two teams that they definitely should win now in it said this, this is correct. The browns Houston not win games where they should win. So that is a positive does that make since they used to lose the games that they're supposed to lose and lose the days that they're not supposed to lose. Now at least they're winning the games that they're supposed to win. They're going to go into this and their whole style is run the ball nick. Run, the ball Dick Schaap road, the ball, Kareem Hunt Run, the ball, and then okay Baker Mayfield. If we have to pass it, then we'll pass it. That's what they're gonNA do right and they're gonNA have success against the cowboys defense, which is porce to say the least. Okay. Very ports. For the problem is they're not going to be able to stop this office Dak. Prescott is the only qb to throw for over four hundred yards in all three gates. He's got weapons Galore. But he doesn't have the weight has one win all right now they both the all three games have been close. You could say there should be only three you could argue that they could be three. No, but. You are what your record says you are right. So you're wanted to. You're playing the browns and you're at home you must witness. Game Dallas, cowboys, there is no excuses you have to win this game. You have to there is no works uses about it. You cannot let the Cleveland Browns I. DON'T CARE that they're in would you can't let them come in here beaten you have way too many weapons. Zeke you Elliott going in the run game. Okay use those receivers you have and I don't care if the browns put forty on you you outs for the and I think that they end up will out the wilder that okay I think that the browns will put up supports because like I said, this cowboys defense, it's it's really bad to start off the year so far but I don't. Think they'll be able to keep up with the cowboys office. The cowboys offense has been rolling and I think that the cowboys offense will keep it up this week at hold and they should walk away this game by six seven points are that's a big game in the weekend that I really wanted us to five into before we take a break and. Bring in an all right. So we are going to now take on take a quick break. This is the GSM superbowl podcast I came on your host We're GONNA take a quick break. 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When it's the fight game, there's just one show to checkout GSM see podcast dot Com backslash, and me Dash podcast don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit gs see podcast dot com for more INFO. Both. Welcome back this is the GMC football podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I am your host cave on. Zombie we thank everyone for joining us today on this episode of the. Football podcast as we are coming out at halftime. Now, entering the third segment of the show were bringing on our good man, our good friend from the GSM see podcast network as well. Emmett wineman emit Wyman has his own show GMC fantasy football podcast check that out twice a week. It's a great show lot of great content. He will help you win your fantasy season emit how you doing my man. Said this last week. This week the football we're doing. Well, right we are doing well even when we get some bad news like we had today, you still got be thankful you. You can turn on the TV you got college football on right now we're still gonNA HAVE NFL Games tomorrow. So so overall, it's a pretty good time. I don't know about you man, how's the weather in? New Jersey right now like right here in North Carolina. Dude, we have that exact fall weather like you walk outside and you just think football you know what I'm talking about. And that's the thing whether we have over here. The color thing on the League of yet. Whether degrees there it is. That's the best now. Well, let's get into a dude. I always look forward to this segment with us since we started there and and for everyone listening you know we're gonNA. WE'RE GONNA probably end up doing this as a weekly thing. We got a lot of good you know. Really. A lot of people saying that they enjoyed it I know emit knows his football I enjoyed talking with him so you could always reach out to us on twitter about US snow. There's some particular you guys wants to talk about on each Saturday as episode when we do this with. Here. At wineman Art Emmett, let's start off with this. Clearly. We've got to start off with what's going on with the whole. Kobe thing. Tight ends they played the Vikings last week on the way home. We don't know how it all started, but clearly, there is now an outbreak in titans organization and they will not be playing the steelers this week that will be rescheduled and honestly man I don't even know if they're gonNA end up paying the bills the following week if. People keep on coming up positive like this, and then now we hear that Cam Newton, has tested positive. Hopefully that is an isolated where no one else on the Patriots has it and they will be able to not and you know having outbreak in the Patriots Organization from there but I'm just going to start off with saying real quick about what I think of this and then I'm going to hand it off to you. You know this is this is a virus that as we said before we even got on air here it is extremely contagious I mean you can get it when you're not even trying to get it. You know you can just be. Doing your thing you can. You can almost even be following protocols and still get it off. That's how contagious it is but. I do think here that there was some guard led. And I'm not in the Titans Organization. I can't say that for sure. But if you look at the Falcons Organization last week man Aj Terrell, he got tested positive for corona and he was in that organization all week he was in that building no one else on the Falcons was tested positive. So they clearly were following protocols. They clearly had masks on they. Clearly were social distancing during their meetings I. Don't know if the Vikings were doing that to have this type of outbreak, what are your thoughts about what's going on right now and and do you think that this is something that the NFL is sitting in their offices right now and they're worried man they're really worried about how this is going to go forward. Even to them as the honors, the owners don't WanNa stop football. This is already losing tons of money but. Fans in the stands there's no we're GONNA WANNA. Pay The players there guaranteed salaries for the entire year and they're not doing football in return. For that I think they're the most worried but I don't know for the players I mean I, Dunno. William situation where I went to. Totally. But I think it goes. So dangerous disease can be I mean, this is very deceptive. You did something you just scan and he liked it to permit the seriously dangerous disease. I think you have to worry a lot about these coaches deaths I mean dies of twenty five. I'm not a doctor but the odds of a twenty five to thirty year old NFL athlete dying from Kobe or Berry Berry Berry went. To the sixty five to seventy year old coach. I'm from covert, very, very high. I think that a lot of these coaches are at risk when it comes to. The players getting cold because you know they're in the facility with them every single day they're on the field with them every single day traveling together i. mean they're not eating off the same plate still he talked about earlier. You don't need to be a doctor to understand how dangerous disease can be. Yeah. You're spot on and that's actually a really good point about the coaches and. Like you said obviously, that doesn't mean that it's it's you know we're we're. Just GonNa put on by the players. Got It. They'll be fine. You know we obviously want to make sure everyone's safety and healthy. But like you said at the end of the day, the facts are the facts in the players, these NFL players that are in great shape they're young they're most likely just to have to get through the through the whole stage of being positive, and then they'll be fine from there. It is a little bit something more to worry about with these coaches and with these older owners too I mean a lot of the owners around their team lot they're older as. Well and that's something to be for sure worrying about and I just want to you know like this is the this is why man moving into season I don't know why the NFL didn't do too bye weeks for each team because I want to move to the football side of things here you know in baseball we saw like the Marlins made the playoffs in baseball when they didn't even play nearly as much games as the cubs day and just bring that up because they beat the cubs yesterday to move on but the the NFL man, you can't have a team that plays sixteen games. and Ha- isn't GonNa make the playoffs over a team that plays thirteen games and is going to make the playoffs like I that that is not fair to me in the NFL and that's why I don't know why they didn't do too me so that they could move around games just what are your thoughts on that? A lot of the down. The TV contract thing if it ain't about the money, it's about. When it comes to? The they're going to try to make sure to try to fade embryo audible, and they're going to try to make every possible. They don't really care about the overall health of the players. That say but that's just the reality of it is and. I think when you're talking about these gangs, they're just GONNA WANNA get as many gangs of pain as possible I. Mean I agree I think the Thursday night games ridiculous I mean those players bodies. Just decided that got beat up though the amount of painkillers the probably checking. The horse. I only the latter you're right. I mean, you're you're spot on and that's it. They beat the players like. I mean they're just been Jackson theft getting ready to go out there and they care more about what the number is gonNa say on the check rather than the overall product. A product that the overall health of the innovation. And players specific. Yeah and that's why I mean the money it's all about the money. That's why you see teams like Dallas trying to fit as many people as they can in a stadium when clearly you should not be having people watch it. You know in a crowded area like that I get it. They're social distancing and all that but I mean, they have sweets. Like how how are you going to put people in it like a bunch of people in a suite right now. So that just shows you it's all about the money and all we can hope for men is that this is a huge wakeup call. You know weeks one through three really win as pretty much perfect as you can have their only one player as in Terrell tested positive there wasn't an outbreak Falcons Organization on it looks like teams were staying focused. They were following protocols and then this happened. So it just it hopefully gives every organization wake up to say, Hey, look, this is a virus like you said it anything can happen. It's so contagious. But at least to everything you can follow the protocols. So hopefully, if someone does test positive, it's not gonNA outbreak throughout the entire organization and we'll just have to see from there. Is there anything else you want to stay on this before we moved to talking football? Now, I mean I just say I. Pointed out dangerous amount of no I, mean, like I mean the Patriots you did you really think they'll check would be on disciplined players down there out you're doing down. I don't think dunes out here. You know going party doing this that. So he probably doing little began to get out of the St episode workout probably go home he's still got the disease. This this could happen to anybody anytime. So. It's going to make for a while. It is GONNA make for wall season. It's going to really really have some implications and some effects on fantasy football, which is what Emmett knows all about here. By you know he he has his own fantasy football podcast. So we're to really get into fantasy football here and I want you guys to stay tuned and listen to that coming up in just a little bit because I'm telling you this is you know the right now the patriots chiefs. Game has pushed back to Monday and Tuesday. Do You keep those players in your lineup hoping that it happens like these are things me imminent Ira GonNa talk about as we'd go so stay tuned for that Bill Emmett let's move to football real quick. All right. Because we saw Monday night man it was a game where I mean probably the most hyped up Monday night game since that that ranch game a couple years ago you remember that one. Yes so so what happened was it was it was a letdown in my opinion I mean the chiefs came out and they just reassured everyone that they are on stoppable offense when they wanNA, be when they're clicking on and clearly Baltimore's team that they get up and go in for. So I'm just GONNA come out on state and look this might be crazy. But this is sports talk radio as it's at its finest can achieve in it. Go undefeated this NFL season. Through, teams to do that in the history of the NFL. Let me being the two thousand seven Patriots. I that's very slim. Yeah. Somebody's GONNA catch up so even a fifteen one is very, very hard fourteen food hard. I would have to vote no. If we're going to play the bet on that end in who so then who is the team in the AFC that most likely hand challenged him you know regular season or postseason like the they look so good against Baltimore that is starting to feel to me that Baltimore has an issue mentally with them and I don't know if that's going to change or not. I trust. Jim Harbaugh trust that staff they know what they're doing. But John Harbaugh excuse me but. I don't know if that's GONNA be a team who do you think that Baltimore still the biggest threat to Kansas City in the AFC or is there another team in your mind? Let's talk about the game the game, the reading the loss I mean the ravens have no job backpacks so When they get out of their style and they have to play behind bars got stress killed vertically. They absolutely panicked they just can't do they can't do it. That's why they lost to Titan, and then this is what the same thing and you know there's a reason I'm not saying this is correct that there's a reason bill Polian said Lamar might be a receiver I. Mean obviously, Lamar is not a good i. mean it's not like Mars not good quarterback you on the MVP but I, mean, there's limitations. That's just the reality of I mean how many times last year yet ask yourself how many times last year with the Ravens trailing engaged During the regular. They barely. Almost never. So they were able to play hat and we planning from. And he got the run game going it's almost impossible to stop. So I think the Ravens it's more about they they only. They're they're limited. They only play one style they have to play that one style the great style. But if you can force them to play, let handed play for be worse than the plane behind, they're going to have a lot of trouble. So when when you're playing Patrick Mahomes I think teams that have it's out of the teams that could a pressure him from the middle. Okay Yeah Pastor 'cause we don't press her you're just going to go home you might as well just not even send your players out there and Not only pressure to keep him off the field. Though you're gonNA need a great ground round gain. That's why I thought the ratings haggard shot. I didn't do both those things but I did to Amblin especially, you know they made state they made some additions on defense. For that reason, you're spot on the coaching staff, the organization they looked at what happened last off season they said, we need to bring in Kaleva Campbell for for the. For what's going to happen against Patrick Mahomes and who can pressure Patrick mahomes and stuff like that. But just that your point then I'm going to bring up with who I think actually can do that best in the AFC. But with your point about Lamar Jackson and how if he's up that team is one of the best teams we've seen in a really long time. But when he's down, it's starting to become a Reoccurring thing. Now, where can't he actually come back now? Do you put more onus and and I? Know you're not in that organization? You're you you watch football you know football do you put more onus on the more because for that or on this coaching staff not creating more than just this one game plan I mean. It just seems like they have this one run style game plan and when they down they panic. Question I say. The reality of the Lamar's of the day I have no backpacking. About can only do so much break room and they can only do so much I. Think they definitely have to think of they plane I know for sure in the coaches meeting this week they are they're saying to themselves. Look if we ever get behind, we have to think of an alternative because. They completely panicked when they go down. So I don't know you can only you divide something yeah. You can only hope that lamarcus because at the end of the day you're right it's Lamar they. Do too much so much and the is if he's not going to be able to hit these passes, nothing's going to happen. So you can only hope that the more just develops that game because he is a foreign player watching and I really want him to become a complete player now listen let me ask you this. All right 'cause you defined the best way. To beat the chiefs I mean you and everyone agrees with you because everyone that knows football knows you have to beat the chiefs. It's kind of like how you beat Tom Brady and his price you have to put pressure on him. If you see the Super Bowl said, they lost against the the the giants and then the ones that they were down in the Falcons. They were sacking Tom Brady they were making them comfortable. That's what yet do mahomes. What do you think about the steelers man that defense is ferocious they have a pass rush that can that's why the chargers do so well against them and we too because they have that pass rush. What do you think that the steelers might be the best team in the AFC to challenge I'm not saying they're the best to the second best team in the WHO AFC To Challenge. Kansas City if big bank stay healthy. What are your thoughts on that? I mean I, I could definitely do paper with their defense messed enough I just think that they're gonNA get into a gang where they're gonNA try to shoot out Patrick Mahomes and you just you can't do that. You do that if you're Seattle with brought the wealth, but that's literally trying to play fast for back of all three point mall with the Golden, State Warriors like you just can't do it. They're GONNA do it. Better than you. So I think there are teams it's just you only that I think are the things that are gonna pass rats conduct do but can the steelers score a comfortable with running the ball twenty, five, thirty times a game and really controlling kind of disaster because that's what matters you have to keep him off the field or you're just GONNA lose I mean, that's how bill ballot check him in the championship game And this, and in the past year, nobody was able to do it as far as the team I I don't know I think Indianapolis might sound weird because you don't think the personnel match but I think their defense will match. Well, they cover they could pressure a little bit I got to Fort Buckner up the middle I mean that's where I'm just trying to think of teams that he can press her the bill. It's not really the edge guys guy would like he saw remember the chargers game. Yeah, I mean you saw the chief only scored twenty three points because I think. Really bothered by Bosa Ingram. Really put a lot of pressure but he was able to April I that because he he's mobile so he could run out of that easy when you're coming up the middle that's really hard as a quarterback to escape so. It's it's really hard and the. The point about this is. Talk about the middle. The only player that could really fresh mahomes? Up. The middle. is on the heat and it's Chris. kind of make the jeep. So it's like. There's only one guy that could probably stop this guy. Do you see foreign? Yeah it's. It's such a good point man and it's such just a you know. Props to the Chiefs Front Office for being able to resign Chris Jones three. Twenty two of the twenty three people back from that super bowl run and look that's why I know you did your preseason picks. That's why that's why I picked him to repeat and it's hard to do that in the NFL that they are really stacked and the US explained perfect the way to beat them and that that's how it's going to happen and we'll see if it does and I kind of do like your pick about Indianapolis I, think that's interesting. The only problem. With that is I don't know how much I can trust Philip rivers because you you can't outscore them but you are going to have to put up some points. The defense is set up to do that I don't know about Philip rivers and last year they did beat them last year and then so did the Texans and then the playoffs game in Texans were up twenty four zero in that we also had to happen but I do think that's the way they tried to get. Out, the colts won last year because they ran back for twenty thousand times on the ground nearly forty minutes time possessing. But that's what you have to do. You have to keep mahomes field and give him as little opportunities as possible Hugo any team any team in the league tries to land as Irish. Going to try to outscore you've got you've got to be the. Team. Which means you're just GONNA lose by twenty, thirty, ten, the you're not GonNa win the game. So. I think. Yeah no you're spot on your spot on, and then this is the thing with it. The like you you're really laying because look at the forty niners, they did the same thing in the first half against the chiefs in Super Bowl they were with that. Amazing. For a defensive line they had. They were rushing up the middle they were. They were making mahomes uncomfortable. I mean really for the most part of that Game Damian Williams was the MVP for for the way the chiefs came back running I've they were making mahomes really uncomfortable but then they started to miss their Jimmy. G. MISSED SOME SOME CRUCIAL THROWS IN IT and it ended up coming back and biting it. Is that pretty much kind of what you're saying with what happened with the colts as well. I mean. I think what via the reason they lost that game they got a little ways from their identity and I think officers I mean, there's there's some times where he's got. To. Play. The Super Bowl tyreek. Chelsea. Come on. Let's hope and a prayer, and he got that by I mean, that's the show the power that team and they hit I mean going back to your point earlier by don't that make it on a Lotta guys. That were troublemakers. Don't the people don't know. He wasn't. He was getting a lot better. The character so that he's got him in a third round tyreek hill, a domestic violence in college but he was, I, mean anybody gets counted him you the fast receivers that like moved. So. Obviously they picked him up in the fifth round. Chris Jones he was the second round pick. He was a he was terrific in college. One of the best defensive attack was in college but the coaches at college didn't really like them and caused them to fly. But you know having these guys, you know all these talented players in Andy Reed's culture. It's GonNa work out for me handy the track. Record he, gets. Anybody'll burden at apples and oranges. Coach. Yeah. I I love Andy Reid, I was so happy for him to win that Super Bowl I. think he deserves it. He's a player's coach and it's a testament. It's a testament to keep in that that you know when you have a lot of trouble makers like that on your on your team, it's hard to keep all of those guys in line and and he's been able to do that for the most part under tyreek. Hill had a little bit of issue once he got in the League but but overall, he's had and The the thing that I love about homes, and then we're going to move on from this. We have a lot more talk off is just how cool he looks as a as a young kid. I mean he that he's twenty four years old and he nothing rattles him man like he he just looks like and I don't know if that's because his dad played professional baseball his dad kind of has that he grew up with that gene but it seriously seems like this guy could be down thirty and he will have the same exact expression on your face and it has a lot to do with why they're weighing. The I think a lot of it I mean. Great Athlete of Probably Place Creator Leagues if he wanted to play. A Lot. Of Freedom. In my opinion is one of the best if not the best quarterback coach of all time I mean he took Michael Pick up the ten century may in the superstar. Alex metric just lost his job Africa made him a superstar. He's taking Jeff. Garcia made him starting quarterback I mean. He has the track record on and on and on Kevin Cobb at some of these guys are just no names but when Andy get going on there, all the superstars Nick Foles, I mean he what you have could you so when you combine his knowledge of gang planning play calling, you can play with the guys I mean by the way three geiger to that fake, he'll the best. To. Man. I mean he's got that five fifteen but he's got that playlist. That's. Up and down going up that thing homes and just do whatever the heck you how. You combine those two brains that sit. And it's that just shows. You just bring it on a broader point so much about fit in the NFL man like a lot of people, and this is our down on Sam darnold today because the jets are absolutely atrocious but I don't know if he's in a better place where he actually has a team around him where he's not a good quarterback man I mean Mahomes I'm not. He would have been good wherever, but I don't know if he would have been this good with like He. Got In the perfect fifth fit with this Guy Andy Reid there. So what we're, GonNa take a quick break this the GMC football podcast I'm your host cave on Zombie we've got in at Wyman here with us join us for the last two segments of this show we're going to take a quick break and when we come back, we're going to dive into a lot more football talk we're also going to get into your fantasy lineup stay to do not going anywhere. We'll be right back after this. Build around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme cage fighting we got the fights cover. The golden state media concepts, women's MMA podcast. The latest news of upcoming flights, discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to about the biggest names women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know were to listen to the Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. Pain May may May? Welcome back this is the. MC football podcast. I'm your host. K. Zalmay we are entering segment number four. Here we are with in it minimum wyman hosts the GSM. See Fantasy football podcast go check that out on any of your podcast platforms I'm telling you he will help you win your fantasy leagues or your daily fantasy I mean, Hey, he gave you guys that nugget last week about whoever's Washington you play that defense in that worked out pretty well and I'm telling you what I got Baltimore this man and I'm expecting fifteen points from defense this week I'll like I better get some good things out of Baltimore. You could thirty. Good. Throw disguises that Wayne had the he's not able to process the probably the way at the me I don't WanNa live? I don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA. Call player down. I mean I don't want to be disrespectful but listen he can't interpret information on the fly like eight manny and Joe I check here Check Your Mike Right There Utd Fezzan delighted with all the Kids. All one eight had he can't feed the pieces moving around on the chessboard at me. With Mar del He's one of the best this blitzes. either. Basically yeah. No and you're spot on that. It's so funny whenever I whenever because I have Sunday ticket. So I I watched the Falcons game which is just a horrible topic in itself. Well, I watch that and I On My IPAD, the red zone channel, and whenever I see someone about score on Washington I immediately think of you and I'm like man, he said, it like just listen to them. He said it so keep listening to those nuggets. Emits giving you guys and I'm sure you'll be the playoffs for fancy league so I want to do this so now Is. Fantasy football guy for GSM see but he's also the resident cowboys fan here. All right. So he hates the Eagles I think that's fair to say, right? You Hate Eagles right. Okay I mean the Haight street hates a strong word you know obviously not literally, but you're not you're not an eagles guy. So the eagles are have just been atrocious this year and what happened this past Sunday was really mind blowing to me man and I think anybody that's played sports before I don't even care if it's on a professional level I don't even care if it's on a college level man if you played competitive sports before this has to bug you what happens and maybe on taking it in a different way and I'm looking at it. From a way that others are, but the eagles pretty much played for a tie because of Doug Peterson not trusting Carson Wentz and get course Wentz has looked terrible. What I'm GonNa give you the floor in here. What are your thoughts about what Doug Peterson did and how does the team come back from that? Yeah I mean I agree about the the message kind of her lock from because we all know Doug Peterson. He came in he made it by a on going to be missed aggressive I'M GONNA be we're going for it on fourth down goal we're not GONNA make back. That's all he did MR aggressive. That's weird title link. That's what your name is going to go by in terms of your identity and to do what he did on Sunday totally totally contrary to what you dealt Kennedy so and the. Pretty embarrassing but the eagles over is they're not very good. I mean they are not very good there I don't think their cultures good. I think there you have a lot of guys that are still celebrating the Super Bowl in that locker room I think their their rosters very overrated. I mean look at their past three drafts they really have brought it anybody again they're they're just a bunch of. Trying to mandate the roster and that's not gonNA work out in a long-term worked out in the short term for them and I, think how he's really trying to you know plug emplo some pieces and thanking all were two players away for three players away. Well, how he can I mean that it's like you've probably got rebuilt. The way that the. Look. They got lucky man I mean that's super bowl run was locked and I know everyone's going to sit up here and say cave on your Falcons Fan Blah Blah. Blah. Go back and watch the game against the Falcons. The falcons literally were on the two yard line with the ball if they soon. Yeah. If they score that that none of that happens they don't go to the super. Bowl. We don't even go to the conference championship game. It was such a lucky. The roster was through a yes. But since then they've got over a return everything and this is my question man because watching that game watching the eagles. This. Year I it almost seems like to me that Carson Wentz does not like Doug Peterson like I think that there is an underlying story. There were those to coach coach player. They don't get along man because it looks like every play Cole course winces pissed he doesn't like it. He's trying to check it out of it and he's trying to go deep every play, and of course, went sizes own issues right now. But this is my thing Doug Peterson won the super bowl course in winced didn't if it comes down to it and you know how eagles fans are, who are they getting rid of Doug Peterson or Carson Wentz Question I made Carson. Wentz has got one hundred, thirty, billion dollars. That they cut in Doug Peterson he got the rain. So you've got the. Connection to. Out think either them but here's the reality right one. Coordinator. And he basically. Offense called all the play develop Carson Wentz that got the running game involved heavily I mean people don't even know that the eagles are one of the top rushing teams that you're. They won the super bowl ever use the guys Jj. Lamont. Lou Garrick Blood they were they were having their basically a very good balanced offense that if think Lake Mad, they were very dangerous and now me they have no firepower. They had they had one receiver at practice. Is We. Want. I mean and you eagles the explosive on offense and do anything I the forty niners I mean. Where they come from where they gonNA come from to where they are right now is I mean, is night and day to say the least. But if I had to dig was when he met Super Bowl Carson winters I think he fourteen and sixteen since Frank Reich. Starting quarterback and that's not good enough to. Be On a lot of. Good enough of the jet crying out. That's what the envy fourteen sixteen and. I lost my like, have you on the show all right. Because you look at things that normal people aren't looking at do the story about what Frank Right did on that offensive staff does not get enough attention men and and I know people are they don't. You Yeah Yeah I mean frank right is a really good coach and he hasn't had as much a success as people thought I mean the hall of Fame Track of Andrew Lock left I mean how would you expect he had to restore out of nowhere with several Jacoby percent so I love frank right man and I completely agree about about that in the eagles man they're in a must win situation going to San Francisco on Sunday night and I'm worried that they're not even going to be able to to make it a team against nick. MOLINS even know if they'll make it like a good performance to wash by guy. I got twitter up right now is just the report elderly computers is on. Off. Got No receivers no. Lying Carson wentz Carson wentz I can't even I mean miles sanders. Okay. I know he's a fantasy breakout I mean everybody's just GonNa. Stack. The box. Defensive. Coordinator. I'm doubling our day. You're not throwing hurt. By May Surmount Sanders the run more more than three yards. What are you GonNa do if you're on Your third TIG grade board who used to be a quarterback in college. Yeah basically, a guy brought out the guilty and. I mean how he'd be now and the off season was denied designs accent. That Brian Back. He's going to be this outside freezes coming back well I. told you if he wasn't my aunt that he wasn't even a guy where traffic. Healthy is not healthy jalen regular the first round pick me speak thereby you've gotta get thumb injury on I R S if I, this these injuries have been piling up for the Eagles but this has been going back to their roster building I mean they're kind of they're bringing in a lot of veteran. When guys get older they a lot longer for their body to recover. And I don't know why and this is a whole different conversation. We won't get into this because we got to move on but I don't know why they won't take a chance on Antonio Brown look I'm someone that I'm not a fan of our twenty around mean he he's obnoxious I. Think he's just a waste of talent and he makes me so frustrated because of that but this is a team that really could use and if he's Got To go through all the mental checks and make sure he's all right and all that stuff and I don't know he will check out but I mean them in the Texans why not give it a chance? Nobody. Nobody in the week nobody thinks he's done he's done for good. Do you. He's done for good. Basically I mean gang from the Patriots like the kiss of death I mean don't. You out I don't know who else and then he the stuff that does not like he asked her and said, you know all I was. Responsible I had this gone back on he's only added. Fuel to the fire, all these the twitter nonsense in the live streams and. Stuff between him and his baby I mean nobody want to deal with that stuff and then you on top of that, you know have character I mean. Honestly I don't mean it's funnier disrespect way but honestly, I think he might just be I'm not even trying to be funny. Right, something with them. It's is not right I. Think. I think you're spot on a it's sad. It's so sad because he was the one receiver man that I would look at and I would say that guy actually can compete with Julio Jones for the best receiver in the League. Now, there's other guys now like Hopkins, that have come up and all that stuff Michael Thomas bid. Antonio, Brown and Julio Jones I mean some people even put put Antonio Brown over Julio when he was out there doing it. So I think you're right man I think that there is some issues there and CT is a serious thing in there. It definitely could be a possibility and we'll find out as it goes on but I I. Think you're right I don't know how people do touch him right now. So let's move into this meeting in it had a very. Fun Discussion I'll put it that way I. Think it was very fun discussion on this past Sunday about what is a bad team in the NFL you know we were Texan about it because and it went on his fantasy show which you can go check it out. GMC. Fantasy football show and he talked about the New York gents. The New York giants, how their bad organizations, and then he also put in my Atlanta Falcons in there and I and I told him I said look idol classify the Atlanta Falcons as a bad team. All right. They're a team that doesn't know how to win their team debt shocks. and. Their team that clearly just doesn't have the coaching philosophy and leadership how to win but I don't see them as a bad team because they're getting up on these teams like, Dallas, like Chicago they were even up on Seattle at one point like I don't classify them in the range of where the jets and the giants are. Do you put them all together in it? I mean I think the thing that we have to decipher what a bad team from a bad word because Asian. Concern necessarily a bad organization I. Mean I think harsher playing coming out with a lot more questions than after watching these gangs but I mean the giants are truly a bad bad bad organization able to doing the same thing over and over and over and has twelve winston trick that bad organisation the coach. And yet they have no clue what they're doing either I mean, what are you talking Chris Johnson? I. Don't know what they're doing. They must be leaking, but they've been doing the same thing over and over and over the Falcons I mean you talk about you know the game listen here's the deal bill parcell though he says, you are what your record says you are you're right and there were three theme I mean every bite that listen the cowboys there and three days. Three because of that I take other wanted to I could argue that they should be free not but they're not wanted to. So at. The end of the easel always prevail Netflix they'll always find a way to win and you already record says you are so flat that the Falcons are a bad thing because you're three I feel you prove otherwise You're right. You're right when it comes to that when it comes to looking at the on the record, you're right they are bad football team as an owen three teen. I'm just looking at it more from the sense of what I'm seeing on the field news. No one can tell me that the bears are better full is a better football team than the falcons like. That does not come in my mind. I'm not trying to be biased here watching that game it just shows that the fourth quarter comes around the Falcons look at their watch they look at the clock and they said, okay, here's the fourth quarter. Let's choke lead now like that's what happens and to me. And it really all comes down to what you call a bad team like what in your mind is a bad team but to me, that's just a team that doesn't understand how to win and there's a missing piece. So so that's it I mean we can go back and forth about that all day but I get what you're saying now quickly on the New York jets and the New York giants. When you say that they're bad organizations they both are going to be in the in the running to give the number one pick if both of them get the number, whichever one more pick jets giants are they do you have to take warrants either of them? I mean it'd be hard to trade that away I say take him I mean with Darnold look you WanNa say you know we love this guy he's really talented. Maybe he he's one of the players on the jets man he's really trying I mean you get an early on on that on their That running players the shoulder really just laying it all out on the line get credit Gang Jones. You can say he has depends over he can't he can't keep him on his hands. So again today I mean those teams I'd say you have to take. The quarterback and then just try to do a complete organizational overhaul. They got their they're reaching a point where they're so bad. They've been so bad for just consecutive years over and over at not just a cocaine. Began changed player change. This is way more than that. You have to change the way operate the entire organization the entire way you pick players to way rainy everything. Every no, you're right. I'M NOT GONNA. Say That about. Atlanta yes. The Houston, he's all three. I can't say that they organization overalls when they were recently in the playoffs, the jets, the giants I can't remember who am they were in the playoffs. Spot on that's a great way to put it all art. Let's go into some fantasy football. Now in the Wyman here, hosted the fantasy football show help you when you're leaves every single week our image let's run it down like we do every week image going to give us the best position to play at the best player player at each position takeover Qb who you got this week. Aaron Rodgers. Fifty. That's for sure. Well the thing that he has been. Coming down a hundred percent I don't think he is but percents like he's GonNa play and the truth is, Atlanta. Just can't cover anybody by I'd say Roger's Mattie I big. Green Bay's defense is a bit overrated and I think you know both of those guys are moving into the category with all star. trying to find a sleeper like Prescott like Wilson guys aren't sleepers maybe Baker Mayfield but I mean that was just give me so much exciting and. As far as quarterback go for. An point I love I love picking the shirt fire pick arrivers vicar Ryan and try to find value at other possessions. But pretty much all the elite quarterback had good matchup since week. Yeah. I. Agree I. think that that Packers Falcons game could go over sixty points as the total on the Falcons are going to be missing Kiato Neil and Ricardo Al there to starting safety so you can pretty much full. Yeah. You can pretty much book Rogers for four or five touchdown passes I. See that, Hey, quick sleeper on a quarterback that I thought of when you were just talking about Russell Wilson. What about Fitzpatrick man that Seattle defense is rough. And those looking at that as well greatbatch on paper by me Patrick. You trust them you. Can't. Trust. Them. Okay Yeah agree on that that's more in the bakery anxiety feel totally get that. All right. So. Running back where you're going with. running backs, I think nick job is GONNA just run for five thousand yards. I mean I think the browns are GonNa get a lot of nickel formations, versa, cowboys and He's just GonNa, find the heck out of green I. Think it's questionable with a groin injury nine typically a groin injuries probably go I mean just 'cause that's one of the most important. Muscle that you need side Picky GonNa play finally to get. Then in single Terry I love the matchup. He has this weekend I without. Being there I think he's a clear cut starter fantasy and the S. David Johnson I, love analyze, Blaine Minnesota I. think you know he's been doing I think they needed to get I have him on my team they need to get him off mourned the passing game but I give him a break billy O'Brien breaks for the first three weeks. They played the Ravens, the steelers top defenses. Antiques as well. So. I think now with the biking and they're they're very young defense that is just disorganized in my opinion I think they'll do out I wrote down Melvin Gordon Snake already played on Thursday night. He like twenty points or something and they had that yeah. That last minute touchdown ridiculous place. Defense. down coke I think he's Start. Every week but I think I Houston that might be good over bet a lot better now. But I think I'll cook is GonNa do just fine. I can't think of anybody else I mean come era obviously. Girls Yeah I actually like early this week man I think that the packers they're they're one of the last in the. Rankings when it comes to run defense and I, think that the Falcons are really going to try and get that run going because that's been a big issue and last week against the bears good run defense date they ran for a total of like one hundred, fifty yards off between girly and and Brian Hill. So I actually like really a lot I have him fantasy. I'm going to start up on the two guys that I really like obviously all those main guys you're spot on with that. I Love Single Terry and I love growing this week. I think those are two people that you can get decent value with and fantasy when it comes to defense right? After the League okay. Value on him I don't earned now I don't know why they keep. I my guess is they just WanNa Lineker early snap count. They understand that you know barely not girly at Georgia or early in La Rams music different now but does injuries I don't know I. Don't get obsessed with bryce Brian Hill whatever his name. The breeding they're bringing on each dropping the ball on the packaging I know. What Tossed me why are they not drive you? Why are they not throwing? The girly has three catches on the year three catches do this guy was catching? So this guy was catching so many passes with the ranch and doing something with it. You're right man it makes no sense to me. I think that they are clearly trying to limit his his snack count. But when you're Owen three I, play the dame dot. All right. You're in two and you're trying to beat the bears. You keep that man in the whole game. What's the point of even bringing him if you're not going to do that so I get off that whole soapbox but you hit it on the nail. So I had to go forward with that and don't Smith through their time pretty he goes. I mean, okay. He'll give you a little juice but. Those guys are girlie but I think they're just trying to live I mean they they understand I mean Sean mcvay heck out. Mileage. Camp Girl. I don't think. If Falcon can't do the same important you no, they can't. But if he can get twenty touches or so fifth eighteen, twenty touches, I do think he can find the end zone this week against the packers because I think it will be a high scoring game but all right, let's new wide receivers. Now, who got the wide receivers for we'd four Then we'll follow is really good. I mean, he's not Minnesota they're just. They're so young the secondary I think he. Wants Person Devante Parker I. think that's a good matchup anything team any receivers Seattle Minnesota USA, just start them I. mean those secondary could just lost in my opinion and they're they're really low indepth Justin Jefferson. Bursa. Texans I. Think he might have I don't know if he's going to be the last week but he might have another gang very similar. I think you lacking in a lot of water the cowboys I think you gotTA START I mean I don't know if you WANNA start a single why that by the Browns Lost Jobs in the secondary I think they're. Very. Very I. Think at home. They're all GONNA be. Increased in terms of value because if you look allow their numbers especially Amari cooper their numbers at home compared to on the rotor skyrocketed. Can't really think of anybody else does Mike of this I'll tell you this Michael Gal me my league last week man I was I won by twenty points in Gallup. Got Me nineteen point off like nineteen point eight, which put it over by one point. So I got really really lucky with Michael. Gallup. You told me to put him in I wasn't going to but I did luckily, thanks for that off moved to the tight ends here who got tiny. Tight end side like I think like. I mean I know that now they home are but I think he's GONNA get Cleveland Browns I. Mean they're they're not very good at linebacker. Dick. They can't really cover. Titans very well. So I think I think he might have a couple of red zone target and might get us down all you really need. ME. I think he's a little bit deeper I think Philip Rivers really really really likes site and. You saw that you know back in San Diego brought him when they had the two tight end set going with Hunter Henry and up and Tonio Gates now I think with Allie Toxin Jack Doyle, they're trying to do the same thing but with doyle out alley cathy number one. Yeah, TJ Hopkinson. I like him. I think he's GonNa. He's a player I have on my bench I'm just asking him for now. Can golladay comes back this week. So he might take a couple of targets away but I mean, how can since reporter Stafford seems to be pretty adequate? I? Think you know he was getting ten points a game in standard up until now. You don't pretty well and then obviously Mark Andrews I think Mark Andrews He had a couple bad weeks come after that monster opening week that he had He's probably do for bounceback or read in I mean I can get amoebae. Put. Every player on the Ravens Right. Yeah. No I won't be out of the ribs, not just roll over the. Human, the over on his forty five, th the the Ravens might get to that themselves. I'm not kidding you're spot on there. They're going to be angry. They're GONNA be pissed in back to that Dole. Dole and full foltz. Scholtz man he has. The most I saw this stand dealer day the most red zone targets on that team. It's not more cooper. It's not my go down it's doll and showed. So I love that pick by view on my actually picked him up this week and one of my league and Mike play him on now defense we all we know the Ravens Alright you Davis the. Last week you play against whoever Washington's plane it's GonNa work out. We know the ravens other than the ravens anyone you like this week for a defense. tweeted it out I like the jet and I know a lot of people are now go out. Whatever playing rookie enemy WHO's not even professional quarterback in my opinion Any defense against him so they had. Interceptions as a pick six near the end they. Salute the game credible but they still got eight points the ramp decent. They're pretty much off waivers of I. Don't know if you can get streaming option, but they're buying the giants I mean, how can you not like that senator through the list here like? Obviously I like. I like the broncos defense they already played forty niners defense. If you can stream them on if that's possible. Eagles have. Just completely set the eagles down And I don't know. I think that might be a good streaming option I. now you to look at whether the game's going to be played or not obviously with the being postponed, but I mean cannons not playing you got to always here's my on defense besides from playing redskins. You can't can't do that. Here's your plan. Beat just look for a really really really bad quarterback. Always, play defensive against bad quarterbacks because they'll throw you cookie. Yeah. They're not going to give you a lot of yards. So yeah no that. That's a great point and then jets defense that actually you have gotten more than eight points. If to your point earlier, they didn't let let in that garbage time fifty yard touchdown Melvin Gordon that would have been of. Those terrible. Terrible. Embarrassing it is embarrassing. It's so embarrassing navigate that the nerve to out that I know I know man that that whole thing was embarrassing. Now we go over time so low one last thing because you did mention it and I do think a lot of fantasy people are going to be having anxiety and are going to be worrying about this man if you're someone with Patrick Mahomes with Travis Kelsey with tyreek Hill with Clyde, Edwards, layer and you're going into. Sunday tomorrow and right now the NFL is saying that they're going to be playing on Monday and Tuesday or you keeping those in what do you need to hear to know that you should keep these players in like what do you do here? Because this is a serious issue I don't know I applied Edwards Hilar- in in my hometown the and and this is a big time. I. Don't know if I can keep him in unless I did Sir in word that the game is exactly happening right? Anybody has the most cases on twitter. Rack tune in the cast. Yeah. The pre-game show, the Jay Glazer show all tune in everything and make sure you're locked in. That's all I think. I know as much as you I don't know I. Guess. I can only get but Yeah. Definitely. Understand why difficult situation but I about this on the oxygen in the off season before we got rolling how you know you're going to need debts it all possessions and it's it's GonNa be beyond just injuries it's going to be co it related and you know a Lotta people I I was really saying this jokingly early in the season, but I was asking someone like. You know what happens if you know the game tomorrow and two guys get Got Hogan and the whole thing out and regular saying Allah happened well. Here, and unfortunately advocate. So. Just you you have to emphasize definition. I think. To look for some trays where you could superstar like I know you're not gonna WanNa hear this China like move Julio, get a running back and really good receiver in trying to do too for one three for twos. Just I can have good bodies more bodies on my team to substitute in and out. So I'm not as as affected by these Kobe's situations fantasy as other teams are who are just trying to have back starting lineup at the benches. Do you know what I'm saying? No, you're you're spot on. You WanNa. Have a strong bench. Founder, but you WANNA, have a really really strong bench because that'll help you in the long haul when situations like this come up and you better believe they're going to keep coming up unfortunately and I would just say one thing to add onto that if you if shefty and all those guys are saying that the NFL is saying the game is going to happen as long as no. One else test positive. I would not be playing those players because you're. Then you're just thinking that no other positives are coming out and next risky and I'd rather play like a Joe Borough or someone off the bench over then you know not having homes play at all you know I think you have to watch the wording of how talking about it and really unless it's a fool and. I don't know how you can keep those players in which just goes back to your point of having strong. Has Many capable bodies ready to go, which is great. Advice man awesome. Imminent widening I appreciate it man you can go check him out. Any. PODCAST network. Any podcast platform spotify on itunes whatever apple podcasts you to it is the fantasy football show GMC, fantasy football, show it Wyman is the hosts give it a checkout emit will begin next week. We'll talk over the weekend. Best of luck to your cowboys man. Hopefully, my falcons can make this game somewhat fun and hey, miracles can happen Bro all miracles can happen say that. Now, let's not worry this I don't. Expect Mike I whether walk in the park with the Cleveland browns. All add be. Around. You know coming here, motivating pulling up. I'm not happy about them either. Low for now well, I've been on way the Phelps. Bias four, point five so they better do it. With. On that A. 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