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The Breakdown with Bethany
"nick knight" Discussed on The Breakdown with Bethany
"I think video is so much work for such little return. And so when I saw that, like threads came out, I jumped at it. I could not wait to be on threads again or just on threads period. And I couldn't wait to be writing short, quippy one liners, because that's how I got my start. That's literally where it all came from. So for that to come back around full circle made me so happy. I think a lot of people are happy, actually, because the pressure to create video, original video, new video, it's a lot. It's a lot to just like show up on camera. You know, I feel that fiercely like every day. But I do much I wanted to talk because, you know, you created Modern Mom Probs. This is like sort of like the premier destination for moms and on social media who was like, want to laugh and like feel like scene and all of that. And I know you mentioned your background, you know, with Nickelodeon, Nick Knight and Nick Jr. But tell us how Modern Mom Probs got started. Sure. So as I mentioned, I was at Nickelodeon. My son was born at the end of 2012, and I decided to stay home with him full time. Actually, full disclosure, I wanted to go part time at Nickelodeon and they said it's all or nothing. And so I said, OK, then it's going to be nothing. And so I made a very hard decision to stay home with him full time, because living in New York City, there's a certain pressure that you feel to go back to work right away. Yes, I live in New York City. I know that's why I'm saying that to you. Like, I know, you know. And so there was this pressure that I was like, well, of course, that's what I'm going to do. That's what we all do here. That's what all of my peers have done. That's just sort of the I thought the expectation. And so it was a really challenging decision for me to say, you know what, the cost of child care is through the roof. And I just decided financially it really wasn't worth it. And I wanted to spend time with my my one and only child. So that's what I did. OK, so then fast forward to early 2016, it was February of 2016. I had the idea of starting an Instagram account about parenting. And I remember distinctly telling my friends and family, I'm going to start an Instagram account about parenting and I'm going to monetize it. And they were like, what? What do you mean? And I was like, no, no, no, it's going to be a thing. They're like, that's not a thing that I like. Actually, it isn't a thing. You're just like making that up. And I was like, no, I'm not making it up. It's a thing. I'm going to make it a thing. And so I launched NYC Mom Probs, and I was talking about problems that are inherently New York City based. And I know you'll appreciate this, Bethany, because it's like taking your stroller down the subway stairs or on the bus or getting into private like nursery school, like all the different craziness that we deal with in New York City as parents. And so I had an account sort of making fun of that. Actually, at the time we were living the Upper East Side and there's the Upper East Side Moms Facebook group. And that is really what led me to want to start an account lampooning everything. I need to see these. I probably followed you back then. It's not ringing a bell, obviously, because I have such a long time ago. I got to see these old ones because I'm sure I'm laughing right now, because, yes, I grew up in New York City when I was I was working retail, very pregnant with my first. My first was also born in 2012. And I remember on the Upper East Side, I was working retail and women would come in and be like, where is he going to preschool? I'm like, he's not out of my body yet. And they're like, oh, well, and they would give me the look like, all right. I was like, but that's New York City is wild. It's wild here. I love that you have such a parallel experience. I know that this is a true story. We had signed my son up for daycare before he was born. Which is, but you were right on track as far as New York City is concerned. I was behind, but you did it. Yeah, that's you're right on track. I did it. And so it happened to be across the street. We were actually very lucky. We lived at the time we were on 96th in Lexington and there was a preschool across the street that I could literally see the front door from my apartment building. And so, yeah, he went there for actually 18 months. So, I mean, I'm totally going off on a tangent now. But I was home for a while and he was still going to daycare. And then I got a job for a few months and I was like, you know what? This isn't for me. So I left that job. And so that was the story there. But yes, we had signed him up even before he was born. There you go. So tell me, how did NYC mom probs turn into modern mom probs? Excellent question. So at the end of 2016, we moved to the suburbs and I had this existential crisis because I was like, I'm not an NYC mom now. And I had to think like, gosh, what what is it? What am I going to do? And I knew I had to change the adjective. So I actually kept it for several months. I think I kept it. I can tell you exactly what it was. We moved in September and I changed it the following April of April 2017. So I was I was texting with my one friend, Angela, who runs an account called Mommy Wine Time. It's a very funny account. She actually never talks about drinking. That's what's kind of ironic about it, too. It's like sort of an unfortunate name. Anyway, she and I were like throwing adjectives back and forth to each other. And she's like, how about this and how about that and how about that? And I was like, how about modern? And she's like, oh, I like it. And so then literally the next day, like flick of a switch, all of my stuff was changed and then modern mom problems was born. And so, like I said, that was April of 2017. So depending on who asks, sometimes I say I got started in 2016 and then sometimes I say I got started in 2017. And the account just took off from there, because when you have a regional thing like NYC mom problems, there's only a handful of people that are understanding the experience. When you say modern mom problems, everyone's like, yeah, I have that. Sure. I drive a minivan. Yeah, that's an issue. I have social media addiction. Yeah, that's a problem. You know, like all of a sudden everyone comes out of the woodwork being like, yes, I have modern mom problems, too. Can you talk to me a little bit about the journey to monetize your social media? I mean, clearly it's so it's like now it's so commonplace. But back then, it really wasn't. And so I know that you weren't working full time at traditional nine to five. But this was obviously a job. So talk to us a little bit about that, because I know that such a it's it's definitely not easy. I know that. But it's a nice option for moms, right? Like who maybe want to jump into that world? Yes. And that's really why I did it. Like I said, when I pitched this idea to my friends and family, they said, what are you talking about? Because it was just the content creator industry or economy was not even set up. I mean, maybe it was at that point for YouTube, but not necessarily for Instagram. So how did I build it? I continued to build my audience. And as I built my audience, I attracted corporate clients who said we would love to work with you. And that's sort of how it happened. And luckily, obviously, there are all of the the mom bloggers, the parenting bloggers who came before me, who laid the road work for that. And so that was that was sort of how it came about. So when people ask like, oh, yeah, how do you monetize your business? The majority of it comes from corporate sponsorships. Got it. But you need the people there. So I'm sure you really had to cultivate that, like your voice and the engagement. I mean, obviously I follow you and I see your engagement is already so it's still I mean, not already. It's still so high from what I can see. And you I appreciate that. And, you know, I'm really hard on myself. And so I'm always like, no, it's not as good like I want it here. But that's just because of my own personality and being a striver and sometimes not sitting for a second to pat myself on the back. You know, we all do that. I know we're we're hard on ourselves. But I do want to talk to you a little bit about modern mom problems. And one of the things I love and it's sort of within your mission statement is that you're sort of you know, you want to like normalize taboo topics. And I think that's what I do, too. Like, you know, that's sort of where my the idea for my podcast was born. Like, I want to talk about, you know, mental health and motherhood and like post like this postpartum. I always say like postpartum really isn't like that six weeks. It's not six months like my kids are seven and 11. And I still feel like I'm in that postpartum period. Right. Like it's like we never go back to how things were. Right. So what are some taboo topics that you still feel like need to be discussed more or stuff? You know, what are what are you out there trying to like destigmatize or anything like that? Yeah. Yeah. When I got started on social media, very few people and I never like to use the word never. So that's why I'm saying very few people were talking about miscarriage or infertility or infertility treatments. Before my son was born, we unfortunately struggled with all of those things. I had three miscarriages and then I had unexplained infertility and then we had IUI and I had never felt more alone in my life as I did back then. And yes, in Facebook was there. But like people weren't talking about that kind of stuff on Facebook. People were taking pictures of their sandwiches and their lattes and that kind of stuff, you know, or actually on Facebook, they were checking in at the gym. They're like, I'm at the movie theater checking at the movie theater. That's what was going on in, you know, 2010 Facebook. But when I started my account, I switched at first, I was always laughing about very like tongue in cheek, sort of third world, first excuse me, first world problems for, for modern mom problems. And then I switched over to be able to talk about those serious topics, the more taboo topics, like I said, as, as I mentioned, infertility, miscarriage, another one that we've, is really catching a lot of momentum now is the mental load of motherhood. You know, my, my good friend Libby Ward, who is, she has an account called diary of an honest mom, absolutely, like cracked open that entire conversation about that. The mental load of motherhood and Eve Wrodsky too. I don't know if you're familiar with it. I know. I feel like everybody knows. We all know Eve. And then she obviously cracked open that conversation as well. And so that's something that people, I feel like 10 years ago, we never would have spoken about. And so now we talk about it so frequently. Yeah. It's, it's really interesting to me too, because as a mother, I was a mother 10 years ago, struggling with this, like the mental load, but I couldn't even name it for myself. Like I wasn't even able to, to, to, to label it to describe what I was feeling. And then it took these, these incredible women to kind of make it like, I don't know, a discussion for all of us to have. And now it's something that, yes, I talk about a lot. It's something that I still don't really think is fully understood either, because I mean, like it's where's the change, right? Like, cause like, I know we have to change within our own households, but like, we're still, I mean, for most part, we're still, moms are still the default parent and it has to be like a conscious thing, like to, to make that change. Like I even talk with my own girlfriends, a lot of whom are welcoming newborns this year, you know, I was 11 years ahead of them, but I, they're sort of dealing with this stuff now. And, and I have, it's not stuff has changed, but like not that much has changed. No, I agree a hundred percent. I love that you mentioned about putting words to it. Cause I think that was the biggest thing for me is having a phrase, something to call it something to call this sort of nebulous feeling that we all felt. And then if you could, you know, attach a phrase to it, the mental load of motherhood, you go, yeah, okay. That's it. That's, that's what we're all trying to work through right now. And so even for us, like since there now is a phrase and we start talking about it and we have these conversations, I can say that even in my own family, I'm able to mention it to my husband. He and I talk about it more. He's a, he sees more things than he otherwise may not have seen even a couple of years ago. And so it's, it's been incredibly helpful. And I hope that everyone continues to have these conversations on both a macro level and a micro level. Yeah. And you know, you do have this extensive background in social media and I'm wondering what role does that sort of play into these kinds of larger conversations? And then we also know we see a lot and we hear a lot about this, like mom shaming that happens and like, you know, with w whether it's like, breastfeeding, you know, co-sleeping, of course we always want to be safe, but how, how do you, what do you, how would you describe the current landscape of social media in this mom parenting world? And if there, and also like, how would you, if there, if you could make any changes, like what would be the ideal for you? Right, right. I have such a love hate relationship with social media because one, I love it because I've been able to meet so many wonderful people all across the country, all across the world. I have wonderful conversations like this with you and, and women, like I said, all over the world. And it has taught me so much, and it has made my life better because I'm able to gleam these little gems from wonderful people like you and, and my friends online. And so it has definitely enriched my life because of my network. So I'll say that that's my first thing. But then on the flip side, there's the darker side, like you said, of guilt and mom shaming and always feeling sort of performative. I feel like that to me is my least favorite thing of all things, which is why I hate the video so much. The video aspect of, of social, because I feel like that's very performative and that's not me. It's just not who I am. And so that's another thing. And then as you mentioned, you know, there are these like third rails essentially of parenthood that one, as a content creator, you know, that you really shouldn't mention, or you can mention, but you know, you're going to get flack for it. That's the co-sleeping, it's the breastfeeding, it's the, you know, serving your kids certain foods, it's the bedtime, sleep training is a big one. So there are certain hot button topics that I know that if I'm going to mention it, I'm going to hear an earful one way or the other alcohol, obviously is another big one. So, yeah, even if you mention alcohol, you know, one way or the other, you're just going to hear something about it. So yeah, it's, it's an interesting thing, but for me, I had experienced burnout for a while. It was about a year ago.
The Breakdown with Bethany
"nick knight" Discussed on The Breakdown with Bethany
"You created Modern Mom Probs. This is like sort of like the premier destination for moms and on social media who was like, want to laugh and like feel like scene and all of that. And I know you mentioned your background, you know, with Nickelodeon, Nick Knight and Nick Jr. But tell us how Modern Mom Probs got started. Sure. So as I mentioned, I was at Nickelodeon. My son was born at the end of 2012, and I decided to stay home with him full time. Actually, full disclosure, I wanted to go part time at Nickelodeon and they said it's all or nothing. And so I said, OK, then it's going to be nothing. And so I made a very hard decision to stay home with him full time, because living in New York City, there's a certain pressure that you feel to go back to work right away. Yes, I live in New York City. I know that's why I'm saying that to you. Like, I know, you know. there And so was this pressure that I was like, well, of course, that's what I'm going to do. That's what we all do here. That's what all of my peers have done. That's just sort of the I thought the expectation. And so it was a really challenging decision for me to say, you know what, the cost of child care is through the roof. And I just decided financially it really wasn't worth it. And I wanted to spend time with my my one and only child. So that's what I did. OK, so then fast forward to early 2016, it was February of 2016. I had the idea of starting an Instagram account about parenting. And I remember distinctly telling my friends and family, I'm going to start an Instagram account about parenting and I'm going to monetize it. And they were like, what? What do you mean? And I was like, no, no, no, it's going to be a thing. They're like, that's not a thing that I like. Actually, it isn't a thing. You're just like making that up. And I was like, no, I'm not making it up. It's a thing. I'm going to make it a thing. And I so launched NYC Mom Probs, and I was talking about problems that are inherently New York City based. And I know you'll appreciate this, Bethany, because it's like taking your stroller down the subway stairs or on the bus or getting into private like nursery school, like all the different craziness that we deal with in New York City as parents. And so I had an account sort of making fun of that. Actually, at the time we were living the Upper East Side and there's the Upper East Side Moms Facebook group. And that is really what led me to want to start an account lampooning everything. I need to see these. I probably followed you back then. It's not ringing a bell, obviously, because I have such a long time ago. I got to see these old ones because I'm sure I'm laughing right now, because, yes, I grew up in New York City when I was I was working retail, very pregnant with my first. My first was also born in 2012. And I remember on the Upper East Side, I was working retail and women would come in and be like, where is he going to preschool? I'm like, he's not out of my body yet. And they're like, oh, well, and they would give me the look like, all right. I was like, but that's New York City is wild. It's wild here. I love that you have such a parallel experience. I know that this is a true story. We had signed my son up for daycare before he was born. Which is, but you were right on track as far as New York City is concerned. I was behind, but you did it. Yeah, that's you're right on track. I did it. And so it happened to be across the street. We were actually very lucky. We lived at the time we were on 96th in Lexington and there was a preschool across the street that I could literally see the front door from my apartment building. And so, yeah, he went there for actually 18 months. So, I mean, I'm totally going off on a tangent now. But I was home for a while and he was still going to daycare. And then I got a job for a few months and I was like, you know what? This isn't for me. So I left that job. And so that was the story there. But yes, we had signed him up even before he was born.
The Breakdown with Bethany
Tara Clark Shares How 'Modern Mom Probs' Was Born
"You created Modern Mom Probs. This is like sort of like the premier destination for moms and on social media who was like, want to laugh and like feel like scene and all of that. And I know you mentioned your background, you know, with Nickelodeon, Nick Knight and Nick Jr. But tell us how Modern Mom Probs got started. Sure. So as I mentioned, I was at Nickelodeon. My son was born at the end of 2012, and I decided to stay home with him full time. Actually, full disclosure, I wanted to go part time at Nickelodeon and they said it's all or nothing. And so I said, OK, then it's going to be nothing. And so I made a very hard decision to stay home with him full time, because living in New York City, there's a certain pressure that you feel to go back to work right away. Yes, I live in New York City. I know that's why I'm saying that to you. Like, I know, you know. there And so was this pressure that I was like, well, of course, that's what I'm going to do. That's what we all do here. That's what all of my peers have done. That's just sort of the I thought the expectation. And so it was a really challenging decision for me to say, you know what, the cost of child care is through the roof. And I just decided financially it really wasn't worth it. And I wanted to spend time with my my one and only child. So that's what I did. OK, so then fast forward to early 2016, it was February of 2016. I had the idea of starting an Instagram account about parenting. And I remember distinctly telling my friends and family, I'm going to start an Instagram account about parenting and I'm going to monetize it. And they were like, what? What do you mean? And I was like, no, no, no, it's going to be a thing. They're like, that's not a thing that I like. Actually, it isn't a thing. You're just like making that up. And I was like, no, I'm not making it up. It's a thing. I'm going to make it a thing. And I so launched NYC Mom Probs, and I was talking about problems that are inherently New York City based. And I know you'll appreciate this, Bethany, because it's like taking your stroller down the subway stairs or on the bus or getting into private like nursery school, like all the different craziness that we deal with in New York City as parents. And so I had an account sort of making fun of that. Actually, at the time we were living the Upper East Side and there's the Upper East Side Moms Facebook group. And that is really what led me to want to start an account lampooning everything. I need to see these. I probably followed you back then. It's not ringing a bell, obviously, because I have such a long time ago. I got to see these old ones because I'm sure I'm laughing right now, because, yes, I grew up in New York City when I was I was working retail, very pregnant with my first. My first was also born in 2012. And I remember on the Upper East Side, I was working retail and women would come in and be like, where is he going to preschool? I'm like, he's not out of my body yet. And they're like, oh, well, and they would give me the look like, all right. I was like, but that's New York City is wild. It's wild here. I love that you have such a parallel experience. I know that this is a true story. We had signed my son up for daycare before he was born. Which is, but you were right on track as far as New York City is concerned. I was behind, but you did it. Yeah, that's you're right on track. I did it. And so it happened to be across the street. We were actually very lucky. We lived at the time we were on 96th in Lexington and there was a preschool across the street that I could literally see the front door from my apartment building. And so, yeah, he went there for actually 18 months. So, I mean, I'm totally going off on a tangent now. But I was home for a while and he was still going to daycare. And then I got a job for a few months and I was like, you know what? This isn't for me. So I left that job. And so that was the story there. But yes, we had signed him up even before he was born.
Pop Culture Leftovers
"nick knight" Discussed on Pop Culture Leftovers
"I remember we're at sea to to my first year They had the reading of. I think it was ferris. Buehler's day off with a bunch of voice actors. me and jessie kendall. Laurie were there. And we watched your tom kenny. And just a ton of voice. Talent do ferris buehler's day off and it was fucking hilarious. That's incredible tom. i. Tom penny like like i remember like watching him on mr show and then like like. But that's not what made him like it was doing. Spongebob squarepants made that guy. You know. so yeah yeah chris. What did you think about this dude yet. Definitely a tupperware As a documentary. And i think if you're a kid of the eighties or nineties And that's just like a pivotal part of your upbringing. Mine like it's definitely a tough just to go back and just like oh shit. I love that tune. I wanna make a playlist of although songs I i there's parts that are just like thought. Were really funny when they were talking about The universal studios and how it was like a zoo in that one kid from all that was like it's like you know you're just like surrounded by people. It looked like he was about to start crying about it. Dislike really weird But there is so many feels like the magic johnson part. Doug funny like. I thought my thought i was doug funny because i went to this small private catholic school as a kid and i wore that exact same outfit every day And just yeah just like all the stuff too. I don't wanna go almost re watch things. I remember it was doug or rocco's and like they showed the picture of a doctor's office sign a doctor bend ova and it was crazy. How much the creator of dog look like doug. It totally was wasn't a jake. Oh my god. I kept thinking to myself. Like oh my god. That guy is doug see. I i loved it Parts whereas like tearing up or just like oh shit i. I've forgotten that. I knew you couldn't do that. You can't do that on television. Like oh this show kid. I loved you can't do that on television. Yeah i loved it. So bring up the lantis morissette. They showed her many times. They did show her but dropper. I was upset that she didn't fucking show up for the documentary. Maybe that's why i was so surprised. They didn't talk about nick at nite at all part of the whole thing to watching those classic sitcoms for the first time as a kid. Oh my god. I love nick knight dude. I was fucking watching donna reed. I was watching fucking laffin. Three and my three sons greenacres. Yeah all that shit. Oh fuck do jake. Did you ever watch lancelot link. Oh yeah with the monkey. Yeah the.
The MF'N Podcast
"nick knight" Discussed on The MF'N Podcast
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Serienweise - Der Serien Podcast
"nick knight" Discussed on Serienweise - Der Serien Podcast
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Gwinnett Daily Post Podcast
"nick knight" Discussed on Gwinnett Daily Post Podcast
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In between that's how. Rs andrews helped sisters perform white the day. They were installed for just ninety nine dollars and they seem like magic. It's really are clean screen trained and timely ours sanders tax casting a spell over your sister not caffeine any spell. Just kidding we even check your thermostat. We check every partier says keep it cooling all somebody because it's not just tunas. Rs anders mega tune. Just ninety nine dollars. Cool all so guarantee magic not matter how can we make you smile. Today's ban he's dr. where are andrews dot com. Your children have likely heard of the word habitat of outdoor exhibit at the fern. Bank museum helps explain exactly what it is. And it's overarching importance. New exhibit called simply habitat features giant sculptures of insects animals nest and flowers nestled among the real plants and animals that call the wildwoods area of fern bank home. The exhibit opened saturday and runs through august twenty ninth. The new exhibit invites visitors to learn more about topics related to habitats their importance to life. And what people can do to help. Preserve them in total. There are nine thematic sections that makeup. The exhibition leading guests through fern banks outdoor areas and on a unique nature expedition. You can visit gwinnett. Daily post dot com for more information county residents can expect to see something new every month for the next year and a half at the exchange gwinnett mixed use development near the mall of georgia in the last month alone the exchanges seen its first four businesses open. That's just the beginning. However with more and more businesses getting ready to open within the next few months the exchange gwinnett is expected to have a significant economic impact on gannett businesses. Open the three hundred. Fifty million dollar project on buford drive occupies one hundred six acres and includes one thousand luxury residential flats as well as entertainment venues food hall. Greenspace a sprouts grocery store and expansive rooms to go show room and a hotel open our the starbucks. Japan outlay thrive affordable. Vet care and lemons. Nail bar coming soon is top golf andretti. Karting games rubes to go five guys mod pizza junior rahman bar and much more now. Let's take a look at sports in and around wynette county with daily post. Sports editor will hammock. Well the first thing. I'm going to ask you about is the former peachtree ridge student who pitched against the braves. Yeah nick knight from from peachtree ridge. He's he's still pretty young kid. Only twenty four years old but starting to make a make in professional baseball. He made his debut last year as a relief pitcher Starting pitcher for the marlins this year and he pitched against the braves wednesday night which is pretty cool and i had about twenty twenty-five family and friends. They're getting to see him pitch pitch pretty solid. Didn't get a win. But he left with a five three lead so he did his job. The marlins ended up one in an extra innings but a great showing for him. He's a he's often. I start through to starts. He's been he's been solid at a little bit of control issues in both games but probably that some of that scott new nurse starting for the first couple of times in your big league career. He's a kid that was a big time Athlete in high school. Not just a as a pitcher but as a as a hitter has well his victim hitter high school level. So it's good to see him doing well up in the pros and plan for them to do awesome but the marlins and another gwinnett county athlete. That's moving on to the next level..
Gwinnett Daily Post Podcast
"nick knight" Discussed on Gwinnett Daily Post Podcast
"Welcome to the daily post podcast. Today is friday april sixteenth and happy birthday to actor and comedian martin lawrence. Who's fifty six today. I'm dan wreck live in here. Your top stories brought to you by kiel of georgia. A man from norcross has been arrested for fatally shooting a friend while they were riding in a car through peachtree corners atlanta regional commission executive director. Doug hooker announced he'll retire in twenty twenty two. Us representative jody hice hosted a signing day style ceremony for the mill creek. High school students. Who will attend the united states. Military academy at west point georgia's largest health insurers requiring that cancer drugs be purchased through their own network ending the current practice of hospitals using a discount program. Fern bank museums new outdoor exhibit highlights the importance of habitats and their fragility and the exchange gwinnett is seeing the beginnings of a long stream of business openings. Plus we'll get a look at sports in and around gwinnett county with sports editor will hammock nick knight from from peachtree ridge he's He's still pretty young kid. Only twenty four years old but start making professional baseball. His debut last year as a relief pitcher he's Starting pitcher for the marlins this year and he pitched against the braves. Why by kia mall of georgia. We provide award winning. Customer satisfaction have been a family owned business for over twenty years buying or leasing with us as fast and easy and you can get pre approved online and four simple steps. We offer top dollar on trade ins and have new vehicle specials that are updated every month and are factory trained technicians make servicing your vehicle convenient with extended service hours. Stop by and shop with us on the lot or visit us online at love. My kia dot.
The Bernard D'sa Talk Show
"nick knight" Discussed on The Bernard D'sa Talk Show
"What you know. Random really becomes by all the effort that you know. I think that s yeah. I just dieting through Coming up with new. I'd i you know but i think they deserve it. He wanted to resolve. Today is out north out. What is going on for them. And if i can in that that african that sweat and i lose also do metaphorically that. I think that is over. In many mickey iffy humbled will be able to You know have them come back to me again and again and a guy was awesome. Thank you so much really enjoyed it. And they want to continue with the group of six months nine months. Even after your dying i think know all i mean we do have a lot many gets any youngsters out. Listening to this podcast. Is that any message or any would wish the message you want to give to these kids out there honestly You know this one to everyone out there that And this again from Assad gained robinson's video. I don't know if you see this video but if you haven't much if you have seen again It's not do for the. I know i i. Honestly it's not in north north of mayport existed of Stuff so that can be half arabian content. But the the one line that that no hits me again and again is this Of the side of the video he says. I don't mean to say that being seen as being the what do we know is that if not perfect to iran we never come up with any motives news and this is the one thing that i keep in. Mind your myself but also the list is make a steak You know when you when your time something new and when it comes to creating stony unscrew writing with on any In a in a new piece. It's it's almost like you're on an adventure exploded in and you're into a new land right and neck new land. You're bound to be loss of mistake of under false. You know into your boundary. You know who you know. Take some water in your. You have to fight off You know yard of dangerous. That's the nature of writing off i. It's something you burn something that's the point of it. What's the point of writing again and again and again you know if you're trying to food or something new and which means you're bound to make mistakes. It is matching when you who make mistakes and that than by all wants to be wanted about is wrong. You know. I think for people in back in house. It and i'm guessing that lets you know any how give you. How can you feel writing. Let let's talk about our anyhow. I you how you you right now off having been and i had a lot of you know we get into the at some point in the future right now not enough and you actually just win something right. You've been something rarely feed me is not something you should not. Just sit a moment in world war i. How cool is that. You can do that enough. Tie-ins it becomes a habit any why not Other something that actually been some. it's all about. it's what extorting yourself being. So what would the message from you as it's being yourself. Exploding who you are using creativity as a means to explicit and getting emitting alternate the end of lifing operating. anything is should be about. You know. I don't say it has to be happy being. I don't say it has to be exciting adventure. I think in the emotion but it s an indian buffet in. Ob you know searching of joy you even if it is a sad forum even if it is something that is absolutely terrifying hats uc some sort of carson in the you've seen a certain since the happiness joy at having for that down onto people either your of in some sense and you feel happy or on. You know that it's something that is beautiful and you are happy about fact that he would being motioned on of he thought about having that right that is it does not mean an you. Know what the quality of that draft. I call it drops disciplining down. Here it doesn't matter how what is the point is. Are you in mind that if you're not it's not that you really enjoy everything that these writing anything that's why not. Why should i think of the eighteen months v. Joyce flew right. Not having time challenges Deadlines and there will be a host of other things. the idea. is you know this is not something everyone has to. If i'm a professional life yes. I have to write for a living. Yes i do not officially. I think i'm not looking for living. Why should i north making joyful. Should i enjoy. And that's what i want as everyone approach art and i think will this highly of nick knight. What is going to bring me joy. If roy if i'm having fun the i will keep doing it. Will a writing explore the right. Those are the ones who read more. We want to explore morning internet right. Let sarin i should. That was pretty insightful. Actually of the ghetto something right from the horse's mouth the divorce and getting your energies these little ones. I thank you so much. For taking time. Dean. you're on this show. my. I am really happy. Who are. I wouldn't even happy. I said as i said earlier and really blessed to be able to make imminent. It's a small difference in the lives of a few people. I think you know. It's a blessing and so Well thank you that you know. At least a few more people will reach out to me because the something. I could act to them this no and if it happens to your platform i think You know i really on. Sunday does nice and dear listeners. If you have any gritties stop the solid anything. He can just drop what text and saw be more than happy to reply to all your queries. Had you're on these adult show. Thank you so much thank you..
Next Stop Everywhere: The Doctor Who Podcast
"nick knight" Discussed on Next Stop Everywhere: The Doctor Who Podcast
"It russell is an actor playing a role yes. He's not trying to replace your captain america in real life. Okay 'cause captain. America is a fictional character. Try to remember that okay. Kids yes i know most of you get that but yes. There's a few of you out there that don't yes mainly the little reinforcement on that and So try to keep that in mind. Okay all right. Just do that as a favor to me and especially the white russell right so But yeah nick knight. You're talking the falcons soldier on zone. Having a ball with that goes with the twin peaks. Podcast where zan sprouse whom you've heard here on next stop everywhere of course and i just finish up discussing on the air. The very short lived. Abc's sitcom that was produced and written and directed by david lynch and mark frost from twin peaks has the twin peaks actors in it and Coming up next. we're going to be discussing. This is a very another interesting one hotel room which was a three episode anthology series on. Hbo that was directed. The first and third episodes by david lynch and featured a number of lynch david lynch veteran actors but also actress. He's never worked with before like oh. Hey maresca harte's from law and order special victims unit or crispin glover from back in the future american gods so especially if you take a look at an actor crispin glover and you think that's an actor that really should work with david lynch. He finally does. It is cool air and so unfortunately for whatever reason. Hbo doesn't have this on hbo. Max but it is available on youtube so if you want to watch all three episodes they're actually so it was kind enough to upload all three episodes at one batch so it's like an hour and a half long because these were like half hour episodes and we're going to break it down by each episode. So what episode of our episodes for each of the three episodes and check that out. Because i think he's going to be a very interesting discussion. i haven't watched these episodes. Zan has watched them since nineteen ninety-five. So this should be approved to be pretty good discussion. Good heart very nice. Yes sir everybody. Check that out please. On ghost with twin peaks podcast. And the lastly but certainly not least cinema where the and i is side gig where we have adult beverages adult.
Lace Out AFL Podcast
"nick knight" Discussed on Lace Out AFL Podcast
"Have any have any long sleeve jumper zero. And we're gonna say probably enough to make you cry because you love a long valve long. I'm gonna crawl with pride cry with private. Look i simply cannot past the bulldogs of the moment. The bell at climatize to the weather there outscoring them or four goals. A game at the moments ground positions was twenty up at ten percent on on on the brisbane laws. They just working harder at the moment. And they just sixty to watch the bonds mclean. Liba smith juicy brucie cake. A bag ricky. And he's now conscious. Stop one once you get like Pringles my once you pop. You can't stop once you've got that double hannigan when you want more of that as well too so i'm gonna waste of blue prison. Have to show something. Because if i got one in the three it's gotta make it a massive a massive challenge than to actually get into the the wide you saw close at the moment. Yeah and like you said Previous fomr prisoner won the last two. But that doesn't really speak too much because these two teams applying lock day or on different galaxies than ambaum If you've got a multi gallon just make it as simple as these. Yana hood in the The not have at least two goals jack mccray will have at least thirty positions. That's going to get you some nausea juicy and go for the doggies under thirty nine and a half. Because it's gotta be yucky down there. Mas and you could come without comment with a little bit of asia billionaire cha-ching aronie or not. This is a diner game for the for the wrong reason security versus west coast at mabul steinem also on saturday the traditional slot of full thirty five pm the graveyard slot and security deserve to be in the graveyard off the if they they showed up last week against is hammering every night. All this cup. It they might. They just didn't even look like they wanted to be there. This is a team that a lot of people thought they were pushing for top four pushing for a lot of people without pushing for top four. Th they'll be lucky to get to for them all night my by Thoughts on this one Look just from the the why west coast dominated last week. The why that sank Didn't even bother turning up last week on that alone i think. West coast on a half a day. Act against these boys and all. I don't say you won't for god. That does nothing around. The grand from a position saw things. Who's gonna stop nick knight in the middle and around the brand on tournament ever again arrested as part as and i'm not talking about him. He is just an absolute machine and on on just looking at it they look at. You haven't played west coast you. It's a now you're trying to get into good graces. You're not gonna know prepared to the law. I didn't cup a humble pie. Nah nah now he is a machine. Pull golden excuse me. But i think they gotta be a wrought i'll just think west coast Three tolls down front got dialing. You've got kennedy you've got caroline go flaw on floating around with the midfield that a lot of teams with dream to have it just gotta be strong and west coast west coast through the. I'd just humming in are expected to win and win. Well to be honest. Sydney will have to asari. Security will have to do a launch right More than west coast left to a lot more wrong. I just yet So because they're not flying with a good structure that just bombing the ball into the fifties and a main west coast. Love that shit. I can eat that up o.'day inbred hillbillies to this radio off. Big money be jumping apply. Lock that maybe. Maybe i mean he's done nothing. Knafo watch a half seasons. Money doesn't matter about the money. Might if you're not good enough you've got to make a statement. It doesn't matter if you're not dropping the big guys because they won't be statements and cuba. He's done nothing so far this she needs to police finger at. You can do that until us. So i'm going West coast and west coast like comfortable. He lost guy die. This is actually going to be an awesome juicy game to watch. If you got nothing else you don't watch another repaid of the notebook or the fifth element or die hard with a vengeance which is probably going to be on versus metric on stadium seven twenty-five onset evening. The reason why. I think these game is going to be good because go cuss actually playing pretty good football at the moment. They've been stiffened a couple of last couple of games. The west coast one shoot of had that in one against moore concern is. We jarrod witts going. Dan who is has our eason has been since i chicago for that group since ever going up. The are just even. That's mac knit but getting that bowl early collins housing a little bit lost weight. Crips was back. Moshe is an absolute star. It started to click for them in a no. The goco speed fueled at the moment. But when you look at the the goal sort of things is not much between the positions was not much in a disposals wise. They actually seat same amount of disposals on average for the year as well inside fifties this from a statistical point of view. Yeah it's almost even stevens. Yup it's gotta be which team turns. Now he's got to be warm up or give the advantage of the gold coast flying in the wolf the humidity up the is a completely different thing But i still can't trust the loop bit more than i do with at the moment of the them. The small forwards running ran for the sixty rankin. Cautious anson these guys running handgun make it a little bit challenging for the back lawn ulta. Blues sounds more framed goodwin. You're like if you look at these to retain sets over twenty twenty one season Literally within a position. Oil percentage of. Also i'm gonna go caution and Interest petty could skin backup. he's Foale two weeks earlier. He was bargain-basement. Patty you could get into the ninety nine cents special and now they're talking about how he's back on. Foam is back on track if you want to buy him. It's gonna cost ya a miller season. He's not a milas imply on sorry. Sorry he's not a mill. he's he's got a great small a good hair in a rig that a lot of us withdrawal but he's not a million dollars a year playa pips speed. Nari we do now. He's money back in. W why out of the mines now. These these two teams have split. The loss taint evenly. The question to come out of it is we'll hire mci. Did las week. He says not north melbourne. Now he's gonna be flying sam colin's who's actually a bed back on a lot of people getting credible things on a lot hotter joins superman batman cody that made if that one of the justice like yeah one of them who you got me on. Your full cow got called down with goal or let's the sunday games list through these k seven twenty five pm. There's another set dig-. 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No Agenda
"nick knight" Discussed on No Agenda
"Here's the list nairobi. Dino celebrating the fourteenth eubank. Happy birthday to with brother. Alex thirty four on march seventeenth. Dave buzzer Daughter sara thirteen on march twenty. Second is starting joshua. Twenty two marks twenty four andrei gonyea celebrated david meduse on the eighteenth of march kendra. Lamont happy birthday to jail Celebrate on the twenty. Four david juice already got that his daughter layla just in case march twenty fifth the genie fuel to her smoking. Hot hubby jon buell forty nine Today actually hang scorpio at birth white denied wholesale writing today. Jose perez twenty-five. Tomorrow and gordon bennett. Happy birthday to mom. Capturing bennett's celebrating on the twenty ninth christopher bassinet thirty three on the thirtieth andrew walker thirty two on the thirtieth and dame ballantyne of the bluebird power region to our citizen husband forever. Massive nikola nikolov says had constantine demeter cuts arena and magdelena and there's nicotine arena nikolov saying happy birthday to the queen of bulgaria and the she'll secret meeting away from johns as happy birthday to son. Evan who turns fifteen thirty one. Happy birthday for everybody. Here at the podcast. Eight hours long one and you thought that was long. Wait until you bring out some blades for this list of people we got here this deal. Same nice for long list. What what long blade for a long list do it again. Up on podium. Granny blondie locks. Joseph carter gardener. Christopher bassinet nicholas. Trevor massey brian moss and nicholas miller all of you qualify for a seat here at the roundtable. The no agenda dame's nights. I'm very proud to pronounce the k. D. has dame ian of white oaks dame blondie locks home. Schooler called the rich three legged. 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We'll hook you up and get you ring and you're sealing wax and your official certificate. Thank you for supporting the best podcast. In the universe. The no agenda yes agenda meet ups rage on they are the only true superspreader event superspreader event of love and camaraderie. There was a meet up in memphis. I know this is not memphis. This came in late. I don't know where this is from. I'm not gonna use my in looking for the eight one one eight daojun here at the water's edge. This is colin. I don't have my mask on. But i do my butt plug in zeke dude named ben in the morning at your service and such following proto. This is andrew jones. Hey this is mountain jay. Bogus this is jim from denver in the morning. Hey this is. Paul from greeley even brought my smoking hot wife. This is tacos is true. Another meet up completing the super herbs. And we're going to go ahead and announce the next one. Because john's really bad putting them on the no agenda meet ups the two weeks. 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Fandom Zone Podcast
"nick knight" Discussed on Fandom Zone Podcast
"At fan of own podcast so that would be great if you reach out to his there. Please do because obviously we got more. The works in jesse working to reach you. Well first off. I need to give a shout out to you to fine. Gentlemen you know daring the beauty of on-demand. I am now going back and seeing. I had not watched the boy season two. So i'm doing this. And who do i have to be. My companion is youtube guys. As i watch an episode i get to go and listen to you all talk about it. So the beauty of the internet's you guys are still there for me so i just kept her bank. You both that. And there is if you just discovered watchmen or crip don in our past we've talked about your starter. Rose so really really. Check those out charleston. We'll talk in a few minutes about next. Stop everywhere the doctor who podcast that. He and i've been doing for a long time that we and we is that as joy for us. I do the. How many podcasts. The only podcasts. The internet that counts With mar- buddies for the southgate media. I have a bob scott junior and gary e where we take a pop culture topic and debated and Of go over it So that's there. And then set leszek. Bruce where i talked to fans of restraints things music from all over the world. This march is friendship month. So i have a whole set episodes for people that bonded Similar to like charleston. I over titans comics. That and nick knight through dr. Who and other podcasts. Well these are people that have bonded through bruce springsteen music and they're sharing their stories a lot of fun and i hope you guys. We'll check that out. I'm on twitter at jesse jackson. Dfw you can find jesse jackson on instagram and facebook. And but mostly i'm on twitter. Nick don't you do a couple of shows enough time this time to drink. He's funny funny. You should mention that. Jesse stop when it comes to me if country music is your speed. I do host the whisky and cigarettes show where he played days country tissue country..
Junior Golf Blueprint
"nick knight" Discussed on Junior Golf Blueprint
"In internment at never side only seen the first seven and i had like a kind of like the every odd number two driver three would make five iron seven nine potter and i think i like think i won one match. I got dummy and the funny thing is one of the guys. I played against just the way it shook down like where i was ranked at my club in that team. You're not supposed to play diesel your twelve that we like lied about my age basically but the funny thing is i think the first match ever did. I don't know there's a coach from canada next star chuck and so nick. Nick knight grew up next. My sister's age helped my very first match i was i played a match against nick. He was in. He was in the group that he'd be like nine and you would have been. He would've been like fifteen and i was ten. Gosh it's always. Yeah we've been friends at like he. He helped me my game law. Crashes house a lot over the years. Yes so i got into the game really young. It was like it's all i ever wanted to do. Was we would come to florida. Every march for the entire month. And i went to the old nestle invitational which is the obey And dan forsman got game golf ball. And at that minute i was like i want to be a professional golfer and i remember so whatever. I'm ten eleven years. And i'm like i'm a young by sixteen thousand thing. I always said little little that i know. But it's kind of ironic because tight try on and i are the same age and he qualified for the pga tour at sixteen. Right at your two thousand. And i was like a i have. The right idea was from the wrong climate but yeah like i played. I was a super competitive junior and mike. I only ever wanted to turn pro like that. Was it so it was like play. I was from ottawa. But we were part of the quebec. Golf association does a play on my read my city stuff. And then you're provincial staff and then It was tough getting to the national championship out of quebec because there was like in canada the national junior championship. There was a lot for each province. How many spots and basically at every national effort every canadian junior depending on how that province performed out of their allotments they would lose gain spots allow right so like ontario the biggest province in in in canada the most gulf province like.
RADCast Outdoors
"nick knight" Discussed on RADCast Outdoors
"On this episode of red cast outdoors we sit down with legendary fishermen of famer and co founder of in fisherman lindy equipment co owner of lender media. Al lindor course. Everybody knows al from his days on in fisherman and has seen him on a number of different tv shows including the angling edge and on this episode of rod cast outdoors. We sit down. We visit with him about a number of different topics including fishing family. Fame his faith and of course. What are his favorite things to fish for to this day. We hope you'll sit down. Relax and enjoy this episode of raw cast outdoors. Sean rad cast is on hunting fishing and everything in between this is red cast outdoor from the borders ten cast studio here david merrill and patrick edwards again outlets gay debut on the program. I do wanna a quick shout out the ending curdle cousin for helping. Set this up with al this kind of a big deal. thanks dante. yeah so really. Appreciate danny and I'll just want to welcome you to the shell. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to hang out with this on a podcast for a little bit and looking forward to nothing makes me happier than a cold in minnesota. If i can't be out fishing. I should be talking about the. It'd be well below zero tonight. So that's probably one of the big motivations for patrick and i to start this podcast. We both have young families. And we're both avidly into the outdoors whether it's fishing hunting or of both. So that's our goal is to You know recruit new new anglers and new hunters to the to the outdoors around. The timing is really appropriate for unit. We've got a whole new. Recruitment a coming in because the cold or sport is never seen before experience in the outdoors and they need our need some guidance. in cases do you know respect the resource in S an important part of what's happening now with these whole. Nobody's covering it. Yeah it's it's been fun to watch you over the years. 'cause you you've really helped kind of teach everybody about that and i know as a kid. I always look forward to outdoor life coming in the mail and also in fisherman magazine because that was that was kind of the thing was you know i wanted to learn more about fishing and growing up in cheyenne wyoming. It was like a dead zone fishing. I mean there's there's really not much closer unless you're going to drive like two hours to glendow three and a half hours to seminal five hours to voice in like you just forget about it. There's just nothing there so you're talking about teaching people. I was reading that as much as could. Because i knew when i went. I had to really capitalize on those trips and sell ob. You've done amazing job about that. And i just wanted to know if you could just share some tips with us you know. What's what's in key strategies of getting kids and just other anglers out on the water. What are some good strategies and tips number one number one. Make sure you take him when you can get a bit people. I i mean i can't old is powered pork edges especially with the younger ones. That have a short attention. Spans inter is critical. That baba's going down or something pulling on the end of that line and Are that's one in even with a new adults and we have a lot of those coming into the sport now that have never fished before and yes. They have patients where the young people don't however their patients will wane after one or two trips without getting up by. It's the biggest hinderance that i've seen to our sport and your people neck key is getting a bit a bike. Too late that fire they gotta catch something and You don't wanna take him out in this herbal weather conditions yet the weather good into everything your power to make sure that they get back in there and the reason people fish in continue to fish is they had a good experience and a good experience is something pulling on the end that the wire gets really the reason you're out there. That's what motivates people is the miracle of of this. It is amazing to me. My entire life in this business to see would fish can do this change. Somebody's like yeah. Yeah you know a kid sitting under edging blue gills and all of a sudden nowhere. A two pound bass runs out reminders. That back and grabs your bank. You never had. You're catching a six inch blue gills and having a ball in this best is your hook break where your life forever somebody had never muskie fish. You know they heard something about it. They're they're going out with somebody that knows something about all of a sudden next to the boat. This monster opens his mouth bites on. It's an image yet burns into your into your spirit that change. It never goes away. That's what likes to fire in this sport. And here's why it's so important. That that their two n into good weather to do it in your. That's the key is to get get a matching get a matching get them and then if they're really young after three hours to think to run into live whether you get a few fish rockets there fascinated with fish bouncing around in a live That's the key really. Is the key to keep them motivated. Keep them fishing kit. In a short period of time you know and again with the adult young person after after you know you get them out for two trips. Third time Yeah you're going to say you want to go fishing or meet today too bad experiences them. They're gonna go bad back in play video games. Interests will beer so al. I was fortunate enough to grow up near salt water and my dad in the pacific northwest. We did a lot of salmon and halibut and deep sea and i got introduced very young to fishing. We actually just had a podcast with my dad on talking about starting that fire that you're talking about i'm curious who was the fishing mentor in your life. The person that got you hooked on fishing. Actually my my brother and years my senior and He he took me every weapon time. I was a little kid. Yeah you know. He's seen a bring cash and he shared that he said there was something about it from the time you were little. You're obsessed with fish and fishing and he nurtured that he actually nurtured that dad dad in him being older than i am a yeah you know. He kind of took me under his wing and I had some really good experiences in those years. One of them that that really fed my passion for fishing was my mother and this is kind of strange but a share. That story with you. My brother obviously loved to fish. Yeah yeah you know so. He took me everywhere. Everywhere we go. We fished all pans and lakes and creeks and rivers and between chicago and milwaukee. And there's many of them and we're at every moment we could go go go. He'd be a good way he he took me took me took me My mother really liked to fish and She's seen you know people would ask me at a young age. What do you go to a christmas. Gathering family or friends like this and say l. conference. Yeah what are you do when you grow up bowl recovered. I'm living fishing going to a look at you. Oh okay yeah you don't blow it off my mercury. She she under the guy a brother with it she she at christmas time or birthdays or special event every time all my christmas presents and gifts were the latest greatest fishing tackle in the industry whether it was a ride or real allure magazines books. Anything that that that she fed bed it and never said that's a dumb guy you can make a living in the fishing industry. Yeah you know especially at that time you know that many years ago yeah you know and the only thing you again you know. You had tackle manufacturers at outdoor writers that At that time. What are the inspiring outdoor writers to me as a kid was jason lucas. He wrote for sports afield at that time. And he he wrote a book called lucas on bass and becky. I read it a dozen tanks. That and marked every page variances burned it into i mike and that. So yeah you know. It's experiences like that Then television every member. I n nears our tv tv fishing business. The first one His name was geared about gaddis. The flying fisherman he was the first one hit syndicated television fish and chips and he'd tried different locations all over the country and sheriff is fishing. Experience get out get it and then and then that led diverge award. That was the true Championship fishing and he was the one. Got my fire to get into the fishing industry in do a television show in the business ahead He was here in my hometown. In brainerd minnesota yet We're starting lindy deco company and His producer His name was j jadwin. He gave us a call at the office. What day and he says i am not. I would perjure war championship patient. We've been in the area for three days or even how we went into a well. I want you ask buster and can you help they understand you know the lakes. You're really good bishop. And everybody says go while alkyl corral. You aren't one so says you do show absolutely. We went out and we got a phenomenal show. Shot for hours to get everything done. He's all happy he took off and went back through missouri. And we finished. My brother looks at me at night. We're talking he's internet. Does your television show and talk about the lures that he manufactures. So you know we could do that. We got into. Why don't we start at television fishing. Show and helpless guess what little fire in pakistan. Tv channels that was would but a camera. That's what camera in my brother. Learned how to use it. And how to splice taped together at your rewind these stories and how you get into the game and enter the fishing industry and enter the sport different aspects that are available. All you get these different stories from everybody that that has been there enough to make a living business. But i'll go back to what i say just a little bit. Herb just amazes me. What a fish. A fish do to change. Somebody's stunning to me. How it happens all the time when experience would have been in. Just bam young know. You're right this change. Yeah i agree. It's it's an amazing experience. I i remember catching fish when i was little and how it lit my fire and again i. I promise that i would do this on the podcast. And i hope it's not lost because i you hear this stuff a lot but my friend. Seth ewing who lives in northern idaho and myself we we grew up. Just eating up your your shows and Magazine and and it really did benefit both of us. He's he's an incredible fly fisherman and he he learned a lot from your fly-fishing video that she goes put out with dollberg and You know and i. I love the small mouth and the walleye in those kinds of species and so it's just one of those things where i i hope it's not lost on you when you hear say you know. Thank you so much for doing all of that because it really did inspire a lot of people across the united states in the world To go out and fish to take other people fishing which i think is really cool one of the things that i always enjoyed and my dad and i always enjoyed watching. Fish was just the joy on your face. You were always you know chuckling and laughing and having a great time and we were just living vicariously through you as the wind. Blew about seventy miles an hour through cheyenne. But i mean it's it's just it. It really did make a big difference. And i do want to. I want to ask about this because this is really important to david. Ni- we we both have little kids and we take them out fishing hunting different activities. And you know you have kids of your own. And and i know. He's very influential and big into the fishing businesses. Well but can you talk a little bit about what that was like raising your kids to be fishermen but also you know kind of raising them during that time that you know you're just so busy and you got all these things on with the with the fishing world and the fame that you had going on. How did you manage all those things and still make it a great experience for your kids. They grew up in the business. they did. There's not all all seven right here except in children. I've got two boys all of the kids. even girls. Three of his kids are girls. They all served in the business wing. Some of your friends. At the time we started lindy dako copier reports sinkers learning advertised snow. Rapper mind cars. Were exposed to the business is a family run. I mean all their life you know and they grew up in many different fields yet. You know it other things. But-but-but number stayed in the business in our in the business today like jim. dna billing and mesa troy. Yeah you know and and my daughter niece who worked as a pr rest. For many many years fishermen still welts me A right right material and press releases and things like that you with the gifted in that area but they grew up in the business thing. Yeah and and that way you were able to spend time together so they understood it. They understand the crab and the things that this life style. If you went to make a living a good comfortable living in deficient indiscreet. I don't hurt my myself and i know many people that you and i do not that then ended the business row ripley. Welcome rarities Actor to it these days. It's a lifestyle business that you want to get into anything cup. Lack of time it is. It isn't in ninth the fact you you know you eat sleep twenty four hours or so you go to bed at night thinking in still today at the. That's been in this my life. There is not one and go. That goes by that. I don't read something about fishing. Watch something about fishing. Talk to somebody about dishing. It happens all the time. Not a day goes by where some aspect of it is in touch in my life. A part of my life in My closest friends are pretty much involved in fishing industry. Right closest friends. Are that sparks your question for me. L. and that's you know i'm kinda way way beginning of this journey. I've got a small family run company but it's in the hunting outdoor space. And you know. My boys are being raised growing up when we work right. We have stuff to do. There's it's a small family run business. it's not you know. Dad goes to work at nine. And we're we're done at five and let's go do x and y but my question is long term for me. My dad took me fishing law. And now i go hunting and now. My boys are in a hunting company being raised. How did you see kind of the transition of with raising these kids. In the company in fending fishing industry they stayed on and continued to fish and still thrive as that was our was that a positive experience for them. Oh yes yeah. Yeah for a number of now. There's some of them that was not. I'll use my to poison example. My oldest son george in here in heat you shared with the. I'll give you my first experience with it. needs he. He was raised in the business. He worked in. It works wade through until they went off to college in it but he was interested in fishing gets his passion in his case. Was things that move fast snowmobiles motorbikes four wheelers dirt bikes. This is what he loved to do. Sounds like we'd get along pretty. Well do troy and the other hand off from the time. He was a little tiny kid. You could see the seat of he would be back in front of our h- house here a day and night catching frogs and just running up and down the bank catching he'd loved it from the time he was four or five years old internet. Never change he absolutely left. And i just think again. God created all slightly different with different interests and is a good thing. You had one boy in the garage tinker on motors and going faster and you had another guy you couldn't keep at the house. He was taking his fishing pole and he was to the water at four and five. Yeah in in in you and your the answer. Paracha half have respect know. I respect that. They have to be their own person in in in seek out for thinks the all that you know that those different interest levels impacted their right as they were growing up in reading some cases to to what they're doing today you know again my son toys into it in a lot of different areas of my oldest son and interestingly he he he liked even as a kid. You're living on the edge. He here you love the excitement of the snowmobile races today. He he'd get so pumped on yet in today. He's he's the paramedic he's a wilderness paramedic in he's fighting fires -fornia loves the game. You're whites. He likes ribbon on the edge to me. I like living on the salary to belated contentment. That's what i really like. And you know. I follow troy on social media and that that guy is always out doing something. And he's. he's an incredible fisherman. I mean it's it's yet it just anything anywhere any way any loves digging around in offbeat places for a coupla. He's got he's got pack whereas in no matter where he goes scurrying rats. He sees the body of water anywhere. Anything they could hold the fish he just drives up insider road. And rodney goes spacious anywhere anywhere crapping around the country with him because spent he's spent some time out west and i know he's fish some areas where i've been and it's just kinda cool to see that and i do want to ask you a question about that. Everybody has some of those favorite moments. What it was like a favorite moment for you fishing with your kids that you can recall the years ago with troy. I'll give you a. I'll give you my my oldest son that never got turned onto it and here's winter. Mistakes that make made with the there was a series the best tournament series. Starting in minnesota zillion years ago it was called the northstar bash turned into and when he was about four years old. I took an pre fishing. Mary and i got a cabin on the lake. And i took him pre fishing for that tournament with me and he had snoopy rag. You had snoopy rag. And they had to wait spinner baits. Then you know it was cool. We're up in the morning out. Who day thinking around. He's dragging this spinner baits through the water. And you know. I'm trying to catch some fish. Internet little said something. It's something from we'll get more moves out to have been great you you you hold in iraq ruled colin. He looks at me. it looks at the rad. He throws looked at me again. I got the message. You burn me out so bad. And so i think there's a balance there were so you know. My dad took me steelhead fishing. And i've i've got quite a few steelhead to my name. And if anybody out there knows steelhead there they can be finicky and tricky fish to catch i. I mean the passion for catching them is kinda gone. I've i've i've been out steelhead fishing and i've seen this in the hunting industry where you know you get some guys. That are pretty. Some prowess in are pretty successful. They take their sixteen seventeen year. Old son out. He shoots a world calibre elk and ten years later. He's he's not in elk cutting he's into fishing or snowmobiling or something else does. Ruggles images of the other side of that story would try. What are the experiences a for a number of years we as a family. A number of where we fished in tournaments in canada Rainy lake in minnesota canadian border. Another one at nor tap happened awake to work and we fish team tournaments up there and over the years that we hit fished at is a group together ranch fish with one of his sons. Jimmy and billy clubs voice fish fish together with danny. We're troy and We look forward to these these tournaments every year of up there and we won a number of them in your jimmy and in billy one. Two of back in those weeks the week caprice fishing leading into that terminated. That was the week muster sunday for fifteen years. Yeah you know it was the highlights of of our trip together with all of us as a family together and each one bus us. Everyone about when i talk to the boys inclusive of troy. Now he says that was some of the most enjoyable experiences we ever had and all of us at weren't time and other did really good way. And i did a couple of seconds and thirds internet but did win one with him in california and in went ahead and opportunity. You get fish with you. Those times that we're in those events burn memories that they talk about still in. Those chips are really important with father and a son. I know with my dad. We had an annual trip that we would take to flaming gorge and that always meant the world to me because we'd spend five or six days out on the gorge just fishing and not worrying about all the other stuff you know. The work stresses of life. And you know i had told you in an email about a trip to voice in just those kind of trips. Just make a huge difference in a young english life and death makes it something that makes them wanna come back later ended it burns into your sweet. You get so excited and then you think about it so often you think you keep revisiting that your mind. Our great great great experience. Yep absolutely and i wanted to touch on something else because we do try to help you know young new people into get into fishing and whatnot. And what are some tips that you give people when they're going to a brand new fishery and they've never been there before. What do you tell him to look for. And what are some tips that you give them. You know it's gotten a lot easier these days because of social media into local bites really. I mean you're you're you're deficient research on lake levels in what the bites been like recently. Water clarity stabilized. Image is endless. In comparison to what we had sixty years ago running through the changes that i've seen are gathering in the business of what the liberal. But you could do so much preliminary work you know. Get getting on your computer Checking out google earth. Going to local site Hunting down to let local reports. That give you an idea of what the bite is like what they're biting that. Yeah you know. Even to death preferences that stuff today is is in most cases. These areas have a very dependable week. Al outlet and that retail outlet Is a great source of information. They don't hide stuff from people they want you to have a good experience and they have fishing reports. That are done weekly. yeah you know. There's things that are posted a soon as their retail operation. So they give you the most up to date information you can possibly get and the is saves you so much time by doing a little bit of homework. So i'll you've got fish a lot of places in your lifetime. What was one of your favorite destinations. One place you wanna go go back in two at this point so far i probably one of the greatest place that i would go go bad bad and it was a family of them. Refer went to australia and We fishburne windy and we floated the rivers my wife stay. She didn't go coin with us into the jungle. And we did it three days when but ahead my two boys and We floated the river. spur morning. And we can't detonate banks and stuff and it was going through the you'd see what originally state you with. All these people would come to the river and you see these salt water again. Getting you know we're we're presented teasing experience. We we fish adequate the very typical coins When with the river for and wendy was that the guy that we're with you at a massive john bolt in. And i think if i remember would the sixty four or more on knew we weren't we took Took off at a tipping point when we went out. I don't know how many miles thirty miles or so it was in between darren new canning two oceans. Boil them your. I've never seen so many fish in my life and we got stuck his thing. We had backup quit. I don't even know we've -able experience that in there then we fish. Gt's the great barrier reef. Yeah you know a couple of days we did that tap water fishing critique keys but that was the the most probably the most memorable trip send in the boys rules enough to to remember that and enjoy and i've never been back again but never been back after us really get to do that. Sounds like a lot of fun to me It was exciting. It was really exciting. Every day was true adventure. Oh man that's one awesome thing about fishing is you know whether you're going out your back porch to your little pond or no for for me it was. We went to alaska couple times in my teenage years. Dad took us up to prince of wales island. And those you can either go on a short little ten minute trip around around the corner and fish a canal right by your house or you can go. Halfway across the globe know go to australia does. The opportunities are endless and every one of them is special in. Its own way you know in every fish. Especially it's it's all the way to work with some incredibly you state. Anglers jimmy jeremy hardcore muskie. They looked. I mean this is their fish of yeah this twelve months a year. They're they're on sites. They're always thought worst. What's what's next year. Where their plan. And what is your shoots in that. But every one of us might might bishop choices of small outbreaks. And then i'll go to a wall in allege mouth after that and i enjoy muskie fishing but not like these guys do either yet. It's their deal. And we got guys crappie fish at that looked crappie fishing nets. i'm kinda more kind of favor with troy. I like a little of everything in every case everybody in office sometimes throughout the year goes and jerks and goes a car. What would we are. We'll get a car. Pike in warning to every two to get to tax at least yet you know something different something out of the ordinary it go get some carbon in you know it. It pulled the fun to catch challenging at times. There's a lot of different ways to get him the. It's something i would not want to do every day. Like the mix it up. I like to catch your letter. What types of things. I can't do when thing. I liked the variety but i mean They're so fascinating fish. And i still in our country today in the states. Stay they you know in your up in different places the world there yet. They're big deal especially european nations. You so that's the money. It's like our best here in drives the market. And then he many cases sh- something silly in some off beatles little place in the and trial go round when i visited him. He'll take me shore fishing spots underfunded we mainly corporation jumping. You see him in the afternoon. We'll go think around for two hours or hours a year some place. He'd learned that when he was in arizona for years he went to college. There learned all the inner city rex. He didn't have the both twitter. Invent until i took down with a boat. All during breaks and classes he found every single nook and cranny at fish in and around the entire phoenix area. And believe me. There was a lot of those a lot of little pans and stuff and in and it was you. Carpeting had more more at your standard run carpet. It hit they all had best large mouth bass in your blue gill winner catfish so we just think around shore fishing nets or his wealth of bank fishing for years. He went to school there. All he did was bank fish off it back and it was just fun. I would love to do with you. Know i got the greatest in late. Greatest poison the war world my london. 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Whoever i remember watching you on the wall i video and a bass video just catching tons and tons of fish on those jigs. I had a feeling it might be jagd merick rigor and well like smaller. My mouth says big big pig. Pike some version of chicken for must be done gun with tubes. Big rubber bates. It's it's a jig gonna jk. There's a better way for all kinds of fish all the time anywhere. Get a one sti- family of bates natural leaders acted under the heading up a chick but she was a piece of red or some kind would addressing the guy if might wait if may wait. Four ounces for watering might be a one sixty four for crappie a purple mylar. Jig will work pretty good for steelhead. But i i'm preferential to to top water. Dry fly stuff. I like to see that fish commit. Come out of the water. That's just i. I did enough. You know wet. Fly fishing. That i patrick knows. We've gone on some high mountain lakes. And i just. I really liked to fool that fish to come up all the way out of the water. He's any kind of fishing for musky. Your small mop mop secure rare occasions. Pike tap water breaks. Those are fun if you wanna be consistent year round. Yeah you gotta you gotta get beneath the surface of the water. Yeah my biggest hike. Was i had a fifty three inch. Pike and this thing was was monstrous and it was lake. Naturally larry larry dahlberg and he was filming. But we're reading and got in fake cockney kakatua water are you talk about a memorable experience with that and You know where he's been everywhere to do everything. Yeah yeah you know. He's still thought at their daddy issues. Deck it was unbelievable scene and fifty three inch this. We figured it was mid thirty pounds. You know thirty five thirty eight pounds something again. Maybe it was. It was jackie gigantic for bike. That was half water. Fish birds played beat of ball. That would be. That would be a lot of fun. I now i'm like. Wow that sounds like a blast. But i wanted to change gears just a little bit One of the things that have admired you for years is that you're not afraid to talk about your faith and i think that that's very important thing and you know i want to see if he can share just a little bit about your spiritual journey and how god is played a big role in your life after the two most important parts of my life. The next year shared all all the time. It's fishing in my unity. Go hand in hand every day. Day is just part of my life. I integrated what we do with the television shows. You know the the impact that it it a try to kind of quickly for you until the time. I was thirty five years old. You know i was a person. It was not an atheist store. Nick knight that nasdaq. I probably would have favored more upper eighty s. And i don't believe anybody that spends any amount of time in the outdoors anywhere can be an atheist. I think that's an impossibility. But i had no really. I was obsessed. And i guess that's the only word i could use obsessed with fisher twenty four seven. That was all that and you know. It gets all in our businesses. Were building at that point in time and At thirty five started giving turkey in my heart to Right to spirit a guy who was just tugging in my heart. I met people that that Turned her life over to the lord. Lord that were hard party hard-drinking people that i knew a hard partier. You know when they were like a different person you night and day and he started to talk to me about about jesus guy stuff i never heard of before the enemy sound comes with a lot of people you gotta understand nothing really new number and then i started the search knowing there's life got you got your busse heart who's much of his life in in one day turned us away lord has given us percents and i says well i i can't do it myself i need help i need your direction. I'm just saying guidance. Any made a confession of faith. Like they're nice and his life and then for about two years you know i wandered around back. Studied the word guide. The bible began challenged thing to me to get through a through know little things like could this really be real. You know like so many people. It's this bible. Could this stuff really. But this this thing is is there a guide the foundation guiding coke. Jesus was the foundation. Is this thing that he really is is. He says he is to be comfortable recently. Said he did from beginning to end. Yeah you know. And i started looking at this stuff. You know one day it got out of my head arc. It was never less years. All i can say is if you truly search is real. He's there you care some words to be. It's a real experience. You know the the point he's got to get out of your head in it. You have become a part of my everyday life. I'm not ashamed for the dash. That's it openly. That's who lamb. And i can only share the experience that i hear. And how would i life. My family My outlook on business. Now look on life right back by relationship with my wife and the older. I get a clearer easier. It is for me out to be more appreciative of of my lord grayson so al. I've got a question. It's a immuno high positive this way in a as starting my own business in the outdoor industry and then walking in faith in how how has that affected you know business decisions and just in a living in the limelight and and outwardly expressing. Your faith is there. You know ever moments of doubt. I mean 'cause i in today's society and day and age is definitely not something that's widely accepted. Are you saying in here by some subject back. But what would you buy. S- i mean as far as just running a business and then walking in faith. I if you look at the marketing partners that i have every single one of a from boat motor rag reels lures lying a wreck. Chronics are the top right at the top of their field in their individual categories. Everyone of and we've been with them for many many many years. Some of them almost my entire career. And i've said in corporate boardrooms all over the country. Go going all over television space over television network and contract saying that we re mega conglomerate and never have. I had one of say anything about my confession of faith and that show it all. Most of them have said they appreciated it and go forward and one of the reasons for that is an and some of them are not people but they businesspeople and the bottom line. Is i self stuff for. That's what i still stuff on. I do my job or am i would absolutely. That's why they don't you know so it's it's a only one. Major major challenge would network. It was who was with a network and and jerry jones johnson. They want forgot about guy that that was the words that they came back came back and they said that it's interesting the way they did notification we played on this network for a number of years and this particular year correct when just the way it always hits in five weeks into the show and it was a wednesday afternoon when it got where got i got contacted by the president of networking. And he said it's gonna pull the show because you're religious stance on it. We don't believe it's we. We went network anymore. This was on a wednesday. We get i managed. They did this going to pull it if we did we. Did we read it. Every i reiterate that we think energy i get contract signed with a bunch of sponsors and i had to deliver the numbers in so we get at that show and euronet weekend in the entire re edited version. And we continue our attorneys. Said you know you've been with. They want to take the court. You can't beat it you got. You ran for five weeks already. You did this for years. They never get it. They can't do for this thing and and they talked iran in in my wife. Laura his wife's no we'll go to thorough. They don't want you. i don't i don't want to be there. they want. They want us to be pulled what they want. They wanted to be this what we did back to show to them. We make the changes in our last of the contract for the television season. We sent them with bill. They said the bill hearing on pitching to us and we sent them the bill. Bill them back or the editing changes. We have to make sent it back. I never heard from them. That i didn't pay for the network in europe. Charge them back for all of the pain and misery went back bent. So it's no legal. Nobody called us back. Matt a single thing the legal. Nobody their legal. Nobody never heard from him since well. I'm really glad that you guys you know you. Un ron have have always been good about you. Know talking to people about your faith and it's been a centerpiece of the show and one of the parts of the show. The actually look forward to a bunch is the very end when you go through whatever god lays on your heart and i really just want to say. Thank you for doing that because we need to be able to talk about these things and i. It seems like culture is trying to move in a direction where they don't want you to talk about stuff that might offend somebody. But it's like you know these are things that we should all be talking about. You know if that's part of your life that's an integral piece. You should be able to talk about it. And there's one one thought i have on that. Patrick is to speak to have speech to have thought. You risk being offensive. Right to someone. And i mean if we're just gonna walk around muzzled and mass and never have a conversation about anything i mean. I'm into big game hunting that that can be offensive. Catching fish can be offensive. So we have to push back. We have to go. They'll run over here if you don't get you know and i'm a big thing an immediate business all my life. I'm a big believer a freedom of expression freedom of speech. Even if i don't with it so am i even. If i don't agree with it you still have a right to share. I understand and i respect it. And i think that's something that people need to remember. Is that just because somebody says something. You don't like doesn't mean you have to agree with them. You can just choose not to listen to that person anymore. I mean there's there's stuff that's put out all all the time that i don't listen to and i don't want to be associated with because i don't agree with what their stance is and you know there's plenty of stuff that i do love to watch and listen to that. I do agree with people that disagree whether you should catch fish on spawning beds are not right in an argument about that or you can easily selena when you can easily get there. But but again. I i like i said i. I respect our our freedom speeches. An expression is an important thing. I've been in the media business my life all my life and in people have a right this year that i have i a right. The like to tune into a cheddar offer. Do whatever i want with it not read it. I can exercise my own decisions. I'm not gonna go in there in equality sponsors sponsor them. Because you're doing this dead. I never do. And i think that's something that needs to be heard and i'm glad that somebody i'm sure a few people here it on this podcast but what you said is very true. We don't need you know this. Cancel culture of of things that you know. Ripples need to be able to share and people need to be adults about it and mature enough to handle it and choose what they want to listen to what they don't. I mean that's it's it's really part of the backbone of what what our country was supposed to be about and Were anyway i do to change gears. Just a little A guy that's been really influential in my life on fishing is pat o'grady. I met pat. Oh man that's probably been twelve thirteen years ago. And he was getting his company started. And i jumped in and helped him out with. Pk lures and here. He had told stories about you coming out to wyoming and doing some fishing. I remember reading. In the law. ally wisdom books About seminole and a few things. So i just wondered if you could share a little bit about coming out to wyoming. Western space are so different than northern or ride scary. Yo it's a whole different world and you mentioned to you mentioned alluded earlier when they get used to is. Never any wind ever ending win in. I mean if you go if you're going to fish you better better get used to win. Better not bothering you. The rick the vote right the handle nbc and being a safe piece the piece of equipment. They handle wind in it. I don't know if you guys ever go through three straight days in a row word you calm day never. I don't think lever happen. I go to archery shoots. And i have people say well. I'm not shooting in the wind and they start playing. Oh the winds blow. And i said well you come to wyoming. If you don't shoot or hunt in the wind just don't go hunting joke. Defeat w. t where we go to the code is as an example. You look at the weather report the night before they they say the win the window. We from fifteen to twenty five. It means it's going to be forty plus asu. It'd be forty dollars. Plus that's what you're going to get the truth. Well you talk about seminar. That is one of the windiest places. I think in the lower forty eight. I mean the the wind speeds on that reservoir are ridiculous. But i'll tell you the fishing is phenomenal. How many winter they put around it. Yeah they put a lot of wind turbines that sucker for good reasons but those western reservoirs growth big fish. Hey we're trying to keep that a secret. Al off carp fish is amazing and even some very. I'm a small mountain. i love smart fishing. The small mouth world small mouth. Fishing is as popular as it's become the tournament organizations. That have the come up north and since two small fishing and a great lakes and now they're coming everywhere yet yet you know you get to experience it in tournaments Love it the small mouth. Fishery that exists. West of the mississippi river is still some of the most unexplored smart fishing in north america systems. I can't you're innocent. At west of the river or to western states many of those reservoirs got phenomenal phenomenal. Nominal bishop i. I liked to tell the story. I've told a couple of times there's a. there's a river in oregon. I won't give the name but an all out to you. We drift boat floated at one day. And i hooked sixty small mouth in a day and i got tired of jagan forum. So i put on a mouse pattern. I tied and i caught. You know half a dozen small. He's on a mouse pattern. Just throw it right against the bank and start stripping out and they'd at that river this drift boat only so motorboats in that that can be a lot of fun i mean those are their sparkling out there and some of the some of the bigger systems pick the missouri river as an example for four. You've got set at saf. You've gotta wacky a. These are massive bodies of water massive massive systems and their in in in in there. I mean the small muppet. Nobody hears coast that they won't see an angler in your role year for small. Nobody'll be their four. Pack four pack is one of the most remote fisheries. I've ever been to. And i'll tell you what they're there have got to be miles and miles of shoreline that never get fished and i mean there's massive massive in their own up in way up at that even at the dry air dry air too short that is about what forty i think. That's forty miles long. And then you've got that main arms like one hundred and sixty miles long. There's very few accesses. Oh yeah you know you're right. I remember we had a pw heat from the tournament. They're in what we we got the attention that anisimov parsons weighed in. It was kabaya. They rent way when came to brought the smart in with his bad fish. So we could wait and it was like a six three or six or this. Was that smaller. That miniature scale in your macro swarm are up in san francisco. I couldn't pull about about have to lead. Somebody's somebody structures. Just drive in his crazy ton of them in there. That's an incredible says. I said there there miles up. It is the most untouched massive untouched mama. Fishing attack. the guy goes through not to mention some of the. There's one night and forget. That warned that they bleed. I think they believe their next record. Birsh sure commander there. I can't remember to saturday with no gather some wells. Old anti yeah. There's some fantastic fisheries out here. And i know just in wyoming alone. I mean you've got a number of really good reservoirs for walleye and you know a couple for small mouth that are really significant and a whole bunch that are good for trout of various species. And of course he got flaming gorge with those humongous lake trout. And that's and that's an incredible fishery to we touched on earlier smarter and they've they've kinda taken a dive the they they think that the Burbot that made their way there. Somehow somebody moved burbot down there into that drainage from apparently around this area and They just haven't they haven't done as well they they were doing really well in the early two thousands. I used to go down there with my dad and we'd catch some up to four four and a half pounds and now it's pretty hard to find them. They're still there. They're just not in the quantity that they used to be environmentally. Then yep There's something to be said for that. You know when i grew up steelhead fishing. You'd spend a lot of hours and when you finally hook into one of those thirty forty inch fish. I mean they they take you for a ride for a while but you can fish for two three four days before you even catch one hook one hook up you go small fishing and have those fisher so dang aggressive are fun. It's fun so that's one of the beauty of them. Yeah there's a there's a little reservoir here in wyoming that kicks out you around five pound fish. Pretty regularly And i i went there with a buddy of mine one time and we are fishing. Top water thing between josh. And i we we both got probably fish apiece just fishing little poppers on the surface in it was just a lot of fun and then that thing that you talked about al that happens in wyoming happened in the wind blowing really really hard to get off their old of the gun the boat for your life. Get your your jacket on. Got what. I'll tell you that much we got wet but so what's what's next. What's in the future. What's what's you know. What do you plan on. what's coming up. What are we. Should we be watching for and getting a little long into or the age also slowing down. A little bit i mean jimmy wego muskie fishing me for four hours. I ain't gonna go in our barrett fats or two pound rubber. Big thing can happen. You're only as old as you act. Al see you know strongest kid. My body doesn't want my five. You don't want to receive that. There are things that are wearing down a little think. That's wisdom speaking to abandon. No too so. I i have to pick pick and choose a little bit a little bit more but i still loved the game. I mean know as long as i can contribute that this sport in a positive way. I'm gonna do it. i'm not gonna. i'm not going to quit. I'm not gonna retire up. Going to crack back. And i mean by cutting that i wanna do more fun fishing on the shows. Jimmy jeremy that the staff and other people we work with. I'd like to see troy get a little more involved with this stuff. These guys you pick up the ball and run every night for long enough to fund fish a little bit more by that go do some things and places a lot of bodies of water that i'd like to play around a little bit now for two hundred and a lot of people don't understand that you know when you're going fishing for the weekend without a camera crew that that can be quite pleasurable when you're going filming for an episode that can be you know when you gotta redo takes a redo when you just wanna go explore to make it happen you gotta make. It's working people don't they. They sit in their living rooms and watch that and go. Oh well they were just they. Turn the camera on and went and had a fun time. There's a lot of hours behind the scenes when the cameras work was in. And then there's a year no it's addressing a lot of times a lacking half and on hot fight fetched but then when you dress the show after that. That's when you get the underwater cameras stuff out to fit. That fit the scene where the fisher coming in in to get the right drum shots environment. Those those all add to the editing and make it a little more exciting the music tracks that that go with it. you know. Music is so subtle in you know a lot of shows don't use music because you have to pay Their cost us thirty thousand dollars a year to use a music so yeah bachelor of music track because their royalties and alma my companies right in this is our very first go. My dad and i went she putting this last fall. We hired a cameraman and we took him. And i'm learning very quickly of the shortcomings of we didn't get you know. Be roll. Shot here and this extra shot here and you know getting that underwater shot or that overhead shot that you need in. It's you know it's really hard now to recreate and get those extra shots that we need to produce the film that i wanna purdue so make a real exciting piece you back. That'd be rollers goals man just putting the actual the actual easiest park. It is actually catching deficient getting their artist on films that easy. Then you've everything else is putting it together. It's all better than that anything. Sweetening the more things you have to compliment. Show the better. It becomes the up on where we're struggling. We're stretching it as as as as we can stay but it's fun man fun. It is a lifestyle worth living. Believe me i if you if you could do it. And you find a way to get your niche in their buck doing it your sizzle lifestyle business for a lot of people if you if money is your motivation and you want to get rich. Don't come fishing industry and here's a lifestyle some of us. I mean you could make a good comfortable but if money is silicon valley and they live in that world out there if you want to be able to go out and enjoy the great outdoors and have a comfortable lifestyle. Fishing industry in hunting industry. Got a better choice. you will never regret. it couldn't couldn't goodness it better myself. I have one more question and this is a really important question. Now because on this podcast we talk a lot about recipes and we talk about food. I'm sure you eat fish i. I'm positive that because it's so darn good but is your favorite fish species to eat. And how do you like it. Prepared real simple for me. I had a free nights ago again. It's just brought up perch beer batter perch sounds pretty good to me. A can of bean beam beam some some cream corn on the sidewalk outside with it. And it's like eating better than a lobster themselves as it gets it. Sounds like there's always it's yeah it sounds like you've into edwards family dinner because that's what we do in my house the fried walleye perch and crappie and some some spicy bangs man purchased it. It they are is still. You can celebrate thinking about my wife. Exciting as getting just guys came back from a leech lake and they were a good perch. Blatancy wentz arch for your prize. Bring them over man. Yeah well that's awesome. And again i just want to say thank you again for coming on the show. We're really grateful for you. You know not just the impact on our lives and whatnot. But just i know how busy you are. And i am grateful for you taking the time to spend with us today. I really really enjoyed the opportunity guys. Like i said If they can't be fishing the next thing to do is talk about fishing. What ten below tonight. I'm enjoying. I enjoyed our time here. Today and You know another rapper. During some that you might want to get. You might get some time. You're looking for another guess. she can. She did older jim. Your jeremy better outstanding and they noted you're ready to get the truck getting some real offbeat stuff. Those guys i jimmy and his muskie fishing jeremy those guys. I'm i'm really jealous. Because out. here you know we just don't have access to purebred muskie's it's just we don't have them so i watch those guys and i watch those shows. I just sit there. And i salivate and i cry a little bit because i really wish i could be there but man. It's your fun. Watch those guys catch them. Windfall muskie by turns out. I'm telling you they get like you know that it's happening. After two pearl they get in their fall formless derise turn glassy. You can't even talk to him out space. I can appreciate that. Patrick knows win. When fall. season rolls around. David gone. david all gone but al will. I'll tell you it or if if you make it out this way we'll put you on some fish instead of just talking about some fish arabic bro. I like it man. i'm in well. God bless you and You know be safe on your travels this year and i look forward to watch and more of the winter media so i appreciate it very pretty opportunities guys everybody habitation. Thanks a lot. So i think we should keep rolling for a minute. We'll wrap this show up and do you have to tell a story about al. I'm really glad he came on the show. In my first and only time that i've al was i cast in twenty eleven and i was working on my laptop and i was up in the las vegas convention center and i was sitting on the side. Which is a huge building enormous. I'm sitting out and kind of of the way trying to find a quiet place. I get wifi and do some work for pat gradient. Pk lure so. I'm working on it. And i see this guy. Come out the come off the stairs. I see that it's outlander. And i'm like oh man that's that's all inter i wanna go say. Hi and say thank you. And so i get up and start to head that way and i kid you not. It was like a stampede. The ground shook. You know the sky got dark. There's all these people just came from every direction and kind of cut me off and you know it was like okay. you know. These guys are more important than me. These our sponsors. You know these are guys that have a vested interest in talking to al. And so i'm like i'll just wait here for a minute. I'm sure clear out. It didn't clear out. The mass massive people just got bigger and bigger and bigger and then that mass move down to where all the booths were. And i was like well. There goes my chance. Shake his hand and say thanks But w quicker next time patrick. Yes but now. He's got to spend an hour talking with him and he's he's a wonderful guy and he's made an impact on my life that you i can only just tell you guys that it meant a lot to me today to be able to talk to him when i was younger. My mom passed away. When i was fourteen and after my mom passed away one of my things that it was kind of an outlet for me was fishing just to get away clear my head get away from life and my dad. I remember one saturday. He took me down to cabela's in sidney nebraska which is about a hundred miles from cheyenne. So he went to sydney. Bought some fishing gear but we also went and we found that they had a rack of in fishman. Vhs tapes and books and so we picked up those things and brought it home. And i mean. I was in those things. Like you wouldn't believe you know on those rough winners of shan that i keep talking about you know with the wind. Cystic crappie fishing. That was there. And i don't mean the fish you know we we would watch those videos. And we'd get amped up for that next trip to the gorge to catch small mouth or that trip that we had that next year where. We just clobbered the ele- perch walleye at poison. So you know those kind of things really mean a lot to me and just al and just the way is just how he has so much. Fun has so much joy around fishing. It's just so inspiring to me and so having him on was a big deal. You know for me today so it was great but i learned that and positively right. Vate faith and fishing is what he said. But you if if you're not having fun in this industry and he really did hit the nail on the head. Yes it's it's nice to be able to get to a point. You could make a living at it. But if you wanna make money go to silicone valley go go go create the next app or whatever the next thing is you make money and live that lifestyle but you know he touched on it. He's been in the industry for longer than about anybody and he still working i. It's it's crazy. He's seventy six years old and he's still going and just definitely an inspiration to a lotta people and one of the things. I wanted to pass along as if any of you wanna try to win a trip to go fishing with al. You can actually put in for that right now if you go to. England edged dot com. Which is there lindor media fishing page. So it's angling edge dot com. You can actually enter to win a trip to go with al which i highly recommend you at least in the show notes yet. So i'll have that there and then of course go check out their website. I mean they have so much information on so many different species of fish. It's kind of mind blowing because there's just tons of it and you can order. Dvd's and a number of other things but definitely support them. They're great family. Great group of people definitely take a kid or a new person with you fishing. Pick a go. Pick mali's yeah. It'll catch some mvm. Some of these dvd's are shown. Their youtube channel for over magazine cited in fact last night before doing this stuff. I showed the kids i said. Do you wanna see who are going to have on the podcast and the kids were like. Yeah i do. And so. I pulled up youtube and just played one of their one of their walleye videos. And they're like oh man that's really cool dad and they were all excited so definitely get people inspired. Get him out there. That's the whole goal. Patrick exactly so again. Thanks everybody for listening to this podcast. It doesn't happen without support of our listeners. And david and i definitely appreciate it. We do sorry you have to listen to me some days Or for that matter so as not all there but definitely go to our website. We have shown notes. We have a lot of different episodes on tons of topics. Bears elk in wall. Is you name it. We've got a little bit of everything. And then of course you can check us out on the social media. You want to support us. Computer read cast hat. Give a half ship it to you. They're pretty cool. A pretty sharp and of course. Go out and subscribe you. Know if you're on apple podcasts or spotify or any of those places that you gave your podcast subscribe to the podcast like podcast. Pleased definitely leave us a review. Tell your friends your friends. Yeah so anyway just wanted to say thank you again again. Check us out at red. Cast outdoors dot com.
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RADCast Outdoors Episode #37: Al Lindner Discusses Faith, Family and Fishing - burst 01
"On this episode of red cast outdoors we sit down with legendary fishermen of famer and co founder of in fisherman lindy equipment co owner of lender media. Al lindor course. Everybody knows al from his days on in fisherman and has seen him on a number of different tv shows including the angling edge and on this episode of rod cast outdoors. We sit down. We visit with him about a number of different topics including fishing family. Fame his faith and of course. What are his favorite things to fish for to this day. We hope you'll sit down. Relax and enjoy this episode of raw cast outdoors. Sean rad cast is on hunting fishing and everything in between this is red cast outdoor from the borders ten cast studio here david merrill and patrick edwards again outlets gay debut on the program. I do wanna a quick shout out the ending curdle cousin for helping. Set this up with al this kind of a big deal. thanks dante. yeah so really. Appreciate danny and I'll just want to welcome you to the shell. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to hang out with this on a podcast for a little bit and looking forward to nothing makes me happier than a cold in minnesota. If i can't be out fishing. I should be talking about the. It'd be well below zero tonight. So that's probably one of the big motivations for patrick and i to start this podcast. We both have young families. And we're both avidly into the outdoors whether it's fishing hunting or of both. So that's our goal is to You know recruit new new anglers and new hunters to the to the outdoors around. The timing is really appropriate for unit. We've got a whole new. Recruitment a coming in because the cold or sport is never seen before experience in the outdoors and they need our need some guidance. in cases do you know respect the resource in S an important part of what's happening now with these whole. Nobody's covering it. Yeah it's it's been fun to watch you over the years. 'cause you you've really helped kind of teach everybody about that and i know as a kid. I always look forward to outdoor life coming in the mail and also in fisherman magazine because that was that was kind of the thing was you know i wanted to learn more about fishing and growing up in cheyenne wyoming. It was like a dead zone fishing. I mean there's there's really not much closer unless you're going to drive like two hours to glendow three and a half hours to seminal five hours to voice in like you just forget about it. There's just nothing there so you're talking about teaching people. I was reading that as much as could. Because i knew when i went. I had to really capitalize on those trips and sell ob. You've done amazing job about that. And i just wanted to know if you could just share some tips with us you know. What's what's in key strategies of getting kids and just other anglers out on the water. What are some good strategies and tips number one number one. Make sure you take him when you can get a bit people. I i mean i can't old is powered pork edges especially with the younger ones. That have a short attention. Spans inter is critical. That baba's going down or something pulling on the end of that line and Are that's one in even with a new adults and we have a lot of those coming into the sport now that have never fished before and yes. They have patients where the young people don't however their patients will wane after one or two trips without getting up by. It's the biggest hinderance that i've seen to our sport and your people neck key is getting a bit a bike. Too late that fire they gotta catch something and You don't wanna take him out in this herbal weather conditions yet the weather good into everything your power to make sure that they get back in there and the reason people fish in continue to fish is they had a good experience and a good experience is something pulling on the end that the wire gets really the reason you're out there. That's what motivates people is the miracle of of this. It is amazing to me. My entire life in this business to see would fish can do this change. Somebody's like yeah. Yeah you know a kid sitting under edging blue gills and all of a sudden nowhere. A two pound bass runs out reminders. That back and grabs your bank. You never had. You're catching a six inch blue gills and having a ball in this best is your hook break where your life forever somebody had never muskie fish. You know they heard something about it. They're they're going out with somebody that knows something about all of a sudden next to the boat. This monster opens his mouth bites on. It's an image yet burns into your into your spirit that change. It never goes away. That's what likes to fire in this sport. And here's why it's so important. That that their two n into good weather to do it in your. That's the key is to get get a matching get a matching get them and then if they're really young after three hours to think to run into live whether you get a few fish rockets there fascinated with fish bouncing around in a live That's the key really. Is the key to keep them motivated. Keep them fishing kit. In a short period of time you know and again with the adult young person after after you know you get them out for two trips. Third time Yeah you're going to say you want to go fishing or meet today too bad experiences them. They're gonna go bad back in play video games. Interests will beer so al. I was fortunate enough to grow up near salt water and my dad in the pacific northwest. We did a lot of salmon and halibut and deep sea and i got introduced very young to fishing. We actually just had a podcast with my dad on talking about starting that fire that you're talking about i'm curious who was the fishing mentor in your life. The person that got you hooked on fishing. Actually my my brother and years my senior and He he took me every weapon time. I was a little kid. Yeah you know. He's seen a bring cash and he shared that he said there was something about it from the time you were little. You're obsessed with fish and fishing and he nurtured that he actually nurtured that dad dad in him being older than i am a yeah you know. He kind of took me under his wing and I had some really good experiences in those years. One of them that that really fed my passion for fishing was my mother and this is kind of strange but a share. That story with you. My brother obviously loved to fish. Yeah yeah you know so. He took me everywhere. Everywhere we go. We fished all pans and lakes and creeks and rivers and between chicago and milwaukee. And there's many of them and we're at every moment we could go go go. He'd be a good way he he took me took me took me My mother really liked to fish and She's seen you know people would ask me at a young age. What do you go to a christmas. Gathering family or friends like this and say l. conference. Yeah what are you do when you grow up bowl recovered. I'm living fishing going to a look at you. Oh okay yeah you don't blow it off my mercury. She she under the guy a brother with it she she at christmas time or birthdays or special event every time all my christmas presents and gifts were the latest greatest fishing tackle in the industry whether it was a ride or real allure magazines books. Anything that that that she fed bed it and never said that's a dumb guy you can make a living in the fishing industry. Yeah you know especially at that time you know that many years ago yeah you know and the only thing you again you know. You had tackle manufacturers at outdoor writers that At that time. What are the inspiring outdoor writers to me as a kid was jason lucas. He wrote for sports afield at that time. And he he wrote a book called lucas on bass and becky. I read it a dozen tanks. That and marked every page variances burned it into i mike and that. So yeah you know. It's experiences like that Then television every member. I n nears our tv tv fishing business. The first one His name was geared about gaddis. The flying fisherman he was the first one hit syndicated television fish and chips and he'd tried different locations all over the country and sheriff is fishing. Experience get out get it and then and then that led diverge award. That was the true Championship fishing and he was the one. Got my fire to get into the fishing industry in do a television show in the business ahead He was here in my hometown. In brainerd minnesota yet We're starting lindy deco company and His producer His name was j jadwin. He gave us a call at the office. What day and he says i am not. I would perjure war championship patient. We've been in the area for three days or even how we went into a well. I want you ask buster and can you help they understand you know the lakes. You're really good bishop. And everybody says go while alkyl corral. You aren't one so says you do show absolutely. We went out and we got a phenomenal show. Shot for hours to get everything done. He's all happy he took off and went back through missouri. And we finished. My brother looks at me at night. We're talking he's internet. Does your television show and talk about the lures that he manufactures. So you know we could do that. We got into. Why don't we start at television fishing. Show and helpless guess what little fire in pakistan. Tv channels that was would but a camera. That's what camera in my brother. Learned how to use it. And how to splice taped together at your rewind these stories and how you get into the game and enter the fishing industry and enter the sport different aspects that are available. All you get these different stories from everybody that that has been there enough to make a living business. But i'll go back to what i say just a little bit. Herb just amazes me. What a fish. A fish do to change. Somebody's stunning to me. How it happens all the time when experience would have been in. Just bam young know. You're right this change. Yeah i agree. It's it's an amazing experience. I i remember catching fish when i was little and how it lit my fire and again i. I promise that i would do this on the podcast. And i hope it's not lost because i you hear this stuff a lot but my friend. Seth ewing who lives in northern idaho and myself we we grew up. Just eating up your your shows and Magazine and and it really did benefit both of us. He's he's an incredible fly fisherman and he he learned a lot from your fly-fishing video that she goes put out with dollberg and You know and i. I love the small mouth and the walleye in those kinds of species and so it's just one of those things where i i hope it's not lost on you when you hear say you know. Thank you so much for doing all of that because it really did inspire a lot of people across the united states in the world To go out and fish to take other people fishing which i think is really cool one of the things that i always enjoyed and my dad and i always enjoyed watching. Fish was just the joy on your face. You were always you know chuckling and laughing and having a great time and we were just living vicariously through you as the wind. Blew about seventy miles an hour through cheyenne. But i mean it's it's just it. It really did make a big difference. And i do want to. I want to ask about this because this is really important to david. Ni- we we both have little kids and we take them out fishing hunting different activities. And you know you have kids of your own. And and i know. He's very influential and big into the fishing businesses. Well but can you talk a little bit about what that was like raising your kids to be fishermen but also you know kind of raising them during that time that you know you're just so busy and you got all these things on with the with the fishing world and the fame that you had going on. How did you manage all those things and still make it a great experience for your kids. They grew up in the business. they did. There's not all all seven right here except in children. I've got two boys all of the kids. even girls. Three of his kids are girls. They all served in the business wing. Some of your friends. At the time we started lindy dako copier reports sinkers learning advertised snow. Rapper mind cars. Were exposed to the business is a family run. I mean all their life you know and they grew up in many different fields yet. You know it other things. But-but-but number stayed in the business in our in the business today like jim. dna billing and mesa troy. Yeah you know and and my daughter niece who worked as a pr rest. For many many years fishermen still welts me A right right material and press releases and things like that you with the gifted in that area but they grew up in the business thing. Yeah and and that way you were able to spend time together so they understood it. They understand the crab and the things that this life style. If you went to make a living a good comfortable living in deficient indiscreet. I don't hurt my myself and i know many people that you and i do not that then ended the business row ripley. Welcome rarities Actor to it these days. It's a lifestyle business that you want to get into anything cup. Lack of time it is. It isn't in ninth the fact you you know you eat sleep twenty four hours or so you go to bed at night thinking in still today at the. That's been in this my life. There is not one and go. That goes by that. I don't read something about fishing. Watch something about fishing. Talk to somebody about dishing. It happens all the time. Not a day goes by where some aspect of it is in touch in my life. A part of my life in My closest friends are pretty much involved in fishing industry. Right closest friends. Are that sparks your question for me. L. and that's you know i'm kinda way way beginning of this journey. I've got a small family run company but it's in the hunting outdoor space. And you know. My boys are being raised growing up when we work right. We have stuff to do. There's it's a small family run business. it's not you know. Dad goes to work at nine. And we're we're done at five and let's go do x and y but my question is long term for me. My dad took me fishing law. And now i go hunting and now. My boys are in a hunting company being raised. How did you see kind of the transition of with raising these kids. In the company in fending fishing industry they stayed on and continued to fish and still thrive as that was our was that a positive experience for them. Oh yes yeah. Yeah for a number of now. There's some of them that was not. I'll use my to poison example. My oldest son george in here in heat you shared with the. I'll give you my first experience with it. needs he. He was raised in the business. He worked in. It works wade through until they went off to college in it but he was interested in fishing gets his passion in his case. Was things that move fast snowmobiles motorbikes four wheelers dirt bikes. This is what he loved to do. Sounds like we'd get along pretty. Well do troy and the other hand off from the time. He was a little tiny kid. You could see the seat of he would be back in front of our h- house here a day and night catching frogs and just running up and down the bank catching he'd loved it from the time he was four or five years old internet. Never change he absolutely left. And i just think again. God created all slightly different with different interests and is a good thing. You had one boy in the garage tinker on motors and going faster and you had another guy you couldn't keep at the house. He was taking his fishing pole and he was to the water at four and five. Yeah in in in you and your the answer. Paracha half have respect know. I respect that. They have to be their own person in in in seek out for thinks the all that you know that those different interest levels impacted their right as they were growing up in reading some cases to to what they're doing today you know again my son toys into it in a lot of different areas of my oldest son and interestingly he he he liked even as a kid. You're living on the edge. He here you love the excitement of the snowmobile races today. He he'd get so pumped on yet in today. He's he's the paramedic he's a wilderness paramedic in he's fighting fires -fornia loves the game. You're whites. He likes ribbon on the edge to me. I like living on the salary to belated contentment. That's what i really like. And you know. I follow troy on social media and that that guy is always out doing something. And he's. he's an incredible fisherman. I mean it's it's yet it just anything anywhere any way any loves digging around in offbeat places for a coupla. He's got he's got pack whereas in no matter where he goes scurrying rats. He sees the body of water anywhere. Anything they could hold the fish he just drives up insider road. And rodney goes spacious anywhere anywhere crapping around the country with him because spent he's spent some time out west and i know he's fish some areas where i've been and it's just kinda cool to see that and i do want to ask you a question about that. Everybody has some of those favorite moments. What it was like a favorite moment for you fishing with your kids that you can recall the years ago with troy. I'll give you a. I'll give you my my oldest son that never got turned onto it and here's winter. Mistakes that make made with the there was a series the best tournament series. Starting in minnesota zillion years ago it was called the northstar bash turned into and when he was about four years old. I took an pre fishing. Mary and i got a cabin on the lake. And i took him pre fishing for that tournament with me and he had snoopy rag. You had snoopy rag. And they had to wait spinner baits. Then you know it was cool. We're up in the morning out. Who day thinking around. He's dragging this spinner baits through the water. And you know. I'm trying to catch some fish. Internet little said something. It's something from we'll get more moves out to have been great you you you hold in iraq ruled colin. He looks at me. it looks at the rad. He throws looked at me again. I got the message. You burn me out so bad. And so i think there's a balance there were so you know. My dad took me steelhead fishing. And i've i've got quite a few steelhead to my name. And if anybody out there knows steelhead there they can be finicky and tricky fish to catch i. I mean the passion for catching them is kinda gone. I've i've i've been out steelhead fishing and i've seen this in the hunting industry where you know you get some guys. That are pretty. Some prowess in are pretty successful. They take their sixteen seventeen year. Old son out. He shoots a world calibre elk and ten years later. He's he's not in elk cutting he's into fishing or snowmobiling or something else does. Ruggles images of the other side of that story would try. What are the experiences a for a number of years we as a family. A number of where we fished in tournaments in canada Rainy lake in minnesota canadian border. Another one at nor tap happened awake to work and we fish team tournaments up there and over the years that we hit fished at is a group together ranch fish with one of his sons. Jimmy and billy clubs voice fish fish together with danny. We're troy and We look forward to these these tournaments every year of up there and we won a number of them in your jimmy and in billy one. Two of back in those weeks the week caprice fishing leading into that terminated. That was the week muster sunday for fifteen years. Yeah you know it was the highlights of of our trip together with all of us as a family together and each one bus us. Everyone about when i talk to the boys inclusive of troy. Now he says that was some of the most enjoyable experiences we ever had and all of us at weren't time and other did really good way. And i did a couple of seconds and thirds internet but did win one with him in california and in went ahead and opportunity. You get fish with you. Those times that we're in those events burn memories that they talk about still in. Those chips are really important with father and a son. I know with my dad. We had an annual trip that we would take to flaming gorge and that always meant the world to me because we'd spend five or six days out on the gorge just fishing and not worrying about all the other stuff you know. The work stresses of life. And you know i had told you in an email about a trip to voice in just those kind of trips. Just make a huge difference in a young english life and death makes it something that makes them wanna come back later ended it burns into your sweet. You get so excited and then you think about it so often you think you keep revisiting that your mind. Our great great great experience. Yep absolutely and i wanted to touch on something else because we do try to help you know young new people into get into fishing and whatnot. And what are some tips that you give people when they're going to a brand new fishery and they've never been there before. What do you tell him to look for. And what are some tips that you give them. You know it's gotten a lot easier these days because of social media into local bites really. I mean you're you're you're deficient research on lake levels in what the bites been like recently. Water clarity stabilized. Image is endless. In comparison to what we had sixty years ago running through the changes that i've seen are gathering in the business of what the liberal. But you could do so much preliminary work you know. Get getting on your computer Checking out google earth. Going to local site Hunting down to let local reports. That give you an idea of what the bite is like what they're biting that. Yeah you know. Even to death preferences that stuff today is is in most cases. These areas have a very dependable week. Al outlet and that retail outlet Is a great source of information. They don't hide stuff from people they want you to have a good experience and they have fishing reports. That are done weekly. yeah you know. There's things that are posted a soon as their retail operation. So they give you the most up to date information you can possibly get and the is saves you so much time by doing a little bit of homework. So i'll you've got fish a lot of places in your lifetime. What was one of your favorite destinations. One place you wanna go go back in two at this point so far i probably one of the greatest place that i would go go bad bad and it was a family of them. Refer went to australia and We fishburne windy and we floated the rivers my wife stay. She didn't go coin with us into the jungle. And we did it three days when but ahead my two boys and We floated the river. spur morning. And we can't detonate banks and stuff and it was going through the you'd see what originally state you with. All these people would come to the river and you see these salt water again. Getting you know we're we're presented teasing experience. We we fish adequate the very typical coins When with the river for and wendy was that the guy that we're with you at a massive john bolt in. And i think if i remember would the sixty four or more on knew we weren't we took Took off at a tipping point when we went out. I don't know how many miles thirty miles or so it was in between darren new canning two oceans. Boil them your. I've never seen so many fish in my life and we got stuck his thing. We had backup quit. I don't even know we've -able experience that in there then we fish. Gt's the great barrier reef. Yeah you know a couple of days we did that tap water fishing critique keys but that was the the most probably the most memorable trip send in the boys rules enough to to remember that and enjoy and i've never been back again but never been back after us really get to do that. Sounds like a lot of fun to me It was exciting. It was really exciting. Every day was true adventure. Oh man that's one awesome thing about fishing is you know whether you're going out your back porch to your little pond or no for for me it was. We went to alaska couple times in my teenage years. Dad took us up to prince of wales island. And those you can either go on a short little ten minute trip around around the corner and fish a canal right by your house or you can go. Halfway across the globe know go to australia does. The opportunities are endless and every one of them is special in. Its own way you know in every fish. Especially it's it's all the way to work with some incredibly you state. Anglers jimmy jeremy hardcore muskie. They looked. I mean this is their fish of yeah this twelve months a year. They're they're on sites. They're always thought worst. What's what's next year. Where their plan. And what is your shoots in that. But every one of us might might bishop choices of small outbreaks. And then i'll go to a wall in allege mouth after that and i enjoy muskie fishing but not like these guys do either yet. It's their deal. And we got guys crappie fish at that looked crappie fishing nets. i'm kinda more kind of favor with troy. I like a little of everything in every case everybody in office sometimes throughout the year goes and jerks and goes a car. What would we are. We'll get a car. Pike in warning to every two to get to tax at least yet you know something different something out of the ordinary it go get some carbon in you know it. It pulled the fun to catch challenging at times. There's a lot of different ways to get him the. It's something i would not want to do every day. Like the mix it up. I like to catch your letter. What types of things. I can't do when thing. I liked the variety but i mean They're so fascinating fish. And i still in our country today in the states. Stay they you know in your up in different places the world there yet. They're big deal especially european nations. You so that's the money. It's like our best here in drives the market. And then he many cases sh- something silly in some off beatles little place in the and trial go round when i visited him. He'll take me shore fishing spots underfunded we mainly corporation jumping. You see him in the afternoon. We'll go think around for two hours or hours a year some place. He'd learned that when he was in arizona for years he went to college. There learned all the inner city rex. He didn't have the both twitter. Invent until i took down with a boat. All during breaks and classes he found every single nook and cranny at fish in and around the entire phoenix area. And believe me. There was a lot of those a lot of little pans and stuff and in and it was you. Carpeting had more more at your standard run carpet. It hit they all had best large mouth bass in your blue gill winner catfish so we just think around shore fishing nets or his wealth of bank fishing for years. He went to school there. All he did was bank fish off it back and it was just fun. I would love to do with you. Know i got the greatest in late. Greatest poison the war world my london. 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Whoever i remember watching you on the wall i video and a bass video just catching tons and tons of fish on those jigs. I had a feeling it might be jagd merick rigor and well like smaller. My mouth says big big pig. Pike some version of chicken for must be done gun with tubes. Big rubber bates. It's it's a jig gonna jk. There's a better way for all kinds of fish all the time anywhere. Get a one sti- family of bates natural leaders acted under the heading up a chick but she was a piece of red or some kind would addressing the guy if might wait if may wait. Four ounces for watering might be a one sixty four for crappie a purple mylar. Jig will work pretty good for steelhead. But i i'm preferential to to top water. Dry fly stuff. I like to see that fish commit. Come out of the water. That's just i. I did enough. You know wet. Fly fishing. That i patrick knows. We've gone on some high mountain lakes. And i just. I really liked to fool that fish to come up all the way out of the water. He's any kind of fishing for musky. Your small mop mop secure rare occasions. Pike tap water breaks. Those are fun if you wanna be consistent year round. Yeah you gotta you gotta get beneath the surface of the water. Yeah my biggest hike. Was i had a fifty three inch. Pike and this thing was was monstrous and it was lake. Naturally larry larry dahlberg and he was filming. But we're reading and got in fake cockney kakatua water are you talk about a memorable experience with that and You know where he's been everywhere to do everything. Yeah yeah you know. He's still thought at their daddy issues. Deck it was unbelievable scene and fifty three inch this. We figured it was mid thirty pounds. You know thirty five thirty eight pounds something again. Maybe it was. It was jackie gigantic for bike. That was half water. Fish birds played beat of ball. That would be. That would be a lot of fun. I now i'm like. Wow that sounds like a blast. But i wanted to change gears just a little bit One of the things that have admired you for years is that you're not afraid to talk about your faith and i think that that's very important thing and you know i want to see if he can share just a little bit about your spiritual journey and how god is played a big role in your life after the two most important parts of my life. The next year shared all all the time. It's fishing in my unity. Go hand in hand every day. Day is just part of my life. I integrated what we do with the television shows. You know the the impact that it it a try to kind of quickly for you until the time. I was thirty five years old. You know i was a person. It was not an atheist store. Nick knight that nasdaq. I probably would have favored more upper eighty s. And i don't believe anybody that spends any amount of time in the outdoors anywhere can be an atheist. I think that's an impossibility. But i had no really. I was obsessed. And i guess that's the only word i could use obsessed with fisher twenty four seven. That was all that and you know. It gets all in our businesses. Were building at that point in time and At thirty five started giving turkey in my heart to Right to spirit a guy who was just tugging in my heart. I met people that that Turned her life over to the lord. Lord that were hard party hard-drinking people that i knew a hard partier. You know when they were like a different person you night and day and he started to talk to me about about jesus guy stuff i never heard of before the enemy sound comes with a lot of people you gotta understand nothing really new number and then i started the search knowing there's life got you got your busse heart who's much of his life in in one day turned us away lord has given us percents and i says well i i can't do it myself i need help i need your direction. I'm just saying guidance. Any made a confession of faith. Like they're nice and his life and then for about two years you know i wandered around back. Studied the word guide. The bible began challenged thing to me to get through a through know little things like could this really be real. You know like so many people. It's this bible. Could this stuff really. But this this thing is is there a guide the foundation guiding coke. Jesus was the foundation. Is this thing that he really is is. He says he is to be comfortable recently. Said he did from beginning to end. Yeah you know. And i started looking at this stuff. You know one day it got out of my head arc. It was never less years. All i can say is if you truly search is real. He's there you care some words to be. It's a real experience. You know the the point he's got to get out of your head in it. You have become a part of my everyday life. I'm not ashamed for the dash. That's it openly. That's who lamb. And i can only share the experience that i hear. And how would i life. My family My outlook on business. Now look on life right back by relationship with my wife and the older. I get a clearer easier. It is for me out to be more appreciative of of my lord grayson so al. I've got a question. It's a immuno high positive this way in a as starting my own business in the outdoor industry and then walking in faith in how how has that affected you know business decisions and just in a living in the limelight and and outwardly expressing. Your faith is there. You know ever moments of doubt. I mean 'cause i in today's society and day and age is definitely not something that's widely accepted. Are you saying in here by some subject back. But what would you buy. S- i mean as far as just running a business and then walking in faith. I if you look at the marketing partners that i have every single one of a from boat motor rag reels lures lying a wreck. Chronics are the top right at the top of their field in their individual categories. Everyone of and we've been with them for many many many years. Some of them almost my entire career. And i've said in corporate boardrooms all over the country. Go going all over television space over television network and contract saying that we re mega conglomerate and never have. I had one of say anything about my confession of faith and that show it all. Most of them have said they appreciated it and go forward and one of the reasons for that is an and some of them are not people but they businesspeople and the bottom line. Is i self stuff for. That's what i still stuff on. I do my job or am i would absolutely. That's why they don't you know so it's it's a only one. Major major challenge would network. It was who was with a network and and jerry jones johnson. They want forgot about guy that that was the words that they came back came back and they said that it's interesting the way they did notification we played on this network for a number of years and this particular year correct when just the way it always hits in five weeks into the show and it was a wednesday afternoon when it got where got i got contacted by the president of networking. And he said it's gonna pull the show because you're religious stance on it. We don't believe it's we. We went network anymore. This was on a wednesday. We get i managed. They did this going to pull it if we did we. Did we read it. Every i reiterate that we think energy i get contract signed with a bunch of sponsors and i had to deliver the numbers in so we get at that show and euronet weekend in the entire re edited version. And we continue our attorneys. Said you know you've been with. They want to take the court. You can't beat it you got. You ran for five weeks already. You did this for years. They never get it. They can't do for this thing and and they talked iran in in my wife. Laura his wife's no we'll go to thorough. They don't want you. i don't i don't want to be there. they want. They want us to be pulled what they want. They wanted to be this what we did back to show to them. We make the changes in our last of the contract for the television season. We sent them with bill. They said the bill hearing on pitching to us and we sent them the bill. Bill them back or the editing changes. We have to make sent it back. I never heard from them. That i didn't pay for the network in europe. Charge them back for all of the pain and misery went back bent. So it's no legal. Nobody called us back. Matt a single thing the legal. Nobody their legal. Nobody never heard from him since well. I'm really glad that you guys you know you. Un ron have have always been good about you. Know talking to people about your faith and it's been a centerpiece of the show and one of the parts of the show. The actually look forward to a bunch is the very end when you go through whatever god lays on your heart and i really just want to say. Thank you for doing that because we need to be able to talk about these things and i. It seems like culture is trying to move in a direction where they don't want you to talk about stuff that might offend somebody. But it's like you know these are things that we should all be talking about. You know if that's part of your life that's an integral piece. You should be able to talk about it. And there's one one thought i have on that. Patrick is to speak to have speech to have thought. You risk being offensive. Right to someone. And i mean if we're just gonna walk around muzzled and mass and never have a conversation about anything i mean. I'm into big game hunting that that can be offensive. Catching fish can be offensive. So we have to push back. We have to go. They'll run over here if you don't get you know and i'm a big thing an immediate business all my life. I'm a big believer a freedom of expression freedom of speech. Even if i don't with it so am i even. If i don't agree with it you still have a right to share. I understand and i respect it. And i think that's something that people need to remember. Is that just because somebody says something. You don't like doesn't mean you have to agree with them. You can just choose not to listen to that person anymore. I mean there's there's stuff that's put out all all the time that i don't listen to and i don't want to be associated with because i don't agree with what their stance is and you know there's plenty of stuff that i do love to watch and listen to that. I do agree with people that disagree whether you should catch fish on spawning beds are not right in an argument about that or you can easily selena when you can easily get there. But but again. I i like i said i. I respect our our freedom speeches. An expression is an important thing. I've been in the media business my life all my life and in people have a right this year that i have i a right. The like to tune into a cheddar offer. Do whatever i want with it not read it. I can exercise my own decisions. I'm not gonna go in there in equality sponsors sponsor them. Because you're doing this dead. I never do. And i think that's something that needs to be heard and i'm glad that somebody i'm sure a few people here it on this podcast but what you said is very true. We don't need you know this. Cancel culture of of things that you know. Ripples need to be able to share and people need to be adults about it and mature enough to handle it and choose what they want to listen to what they don't. I mean that's it's it's really part of the backbone of what what our country was supposed to be about and Were anyway i do to change gears. Just a little A guy that's been really influential in my life on fishing is pat o'grady. I met pat. Oh man that's probably been twelve thirteen years ago. And he was getting his company started. And i jumped in and helped him out with. Pk lures and here. He had told stories about you coming out to wyoming and doing some fishing. I remember reading. In the law. ally wisdom books About seminole and a few things. So i just wondered if you could share a little bit about coming out to wyoming. Western space are so different than northern or ride scary. Yo it's a whole different world and you mentioned to you mentioned alluded earlier when they get used to is. Never any wind ever ending win in. I mean if you go if you're going to fish you better better get used to win. Better not bothering you. The rick the vote right the handle nbc and being a safe piece the piece of equipment. They handle wind in it. I don't know if you guys ever go through three straight days in a row word you calm day never. I don't think lever happen. I go to archery shoots. And i have people say well. I'm not shooting in the wind and they start playing. Oh the winds blow. And i said well you come to wyoming. If you don't shoot or hunt in the wind just don't go hunting joke. Defeat w. t where we go to the code is as an example. You look at the weather report the night before they they say the win the window. We from fifteen to twenty five. It means it's going to be forty plus asu. It'd be forty dollars. Plus that's what you're going to get the truth. Well you talk about seminar. That is one of the windiest places. I think in the lower forty eight. I mean the the wind speeds on that reservoir are ridiculous. But i'll tell you the fishing is phenomenal. How many winter they put around it. Yeah they put a lot of wind turbines that sucker for good reasons but those western reservoirs growth big fish. Hey we're trying to keep that a secret. Al off carp fish is amazing and even some very. I'm a small mountain. i love smart fishing. The small mouth world small mouth. Fishing is as popular as it's become the tournament organizations. That have the come up north and since two small fishing and a great lakes and now they're coming everywhere yet yet you know you get to experience it in tournaments Love it the small mouth. Fishery that exists. West of the mississippi river is still some of the most unexplored smart fishing in north america systems. I can't you're innocent. At west of the river or to western states many of those reservoirs got phenomenal phenomenal. Nominal bishop i. I liked to tell the story. I've told a couple of times there's a. there's a river in oregon. I won't give the name but an all out to you. We drift boat floated at one day. And i hooked sixty small mouth in a day and i got tired of jagan forum. So i put on a mouse pattern. I tied and i caught. You know half a dozen small. He's on a mouse pattern. Just throw it right against the bank and start stripping out and they'd at that river this drift boat only so motorboats in that that can be a lot of fun i mean those are their sparkling out there and some of the some of the bigger systems pick the missouri river as an example for four. You've got set at saf. You've gotta wacky a. These are massive bodies of water massive massive systems and their in in in in there. I mean the small muppet. Nobody hears coast that they won't see an angler in your role year for small. Nobody'll be their four. Pack four pack is one of the most remote fisheries. I've ever been to. And i'll tell you what they're there have got to be miles and miles of shoreline that never get fished and i mean there's massive massive in their own up in way up at that even at the dry air dry air too short that is about what forty i think. That's forty miles long. And then you've got that main arms like one hundred and sixty miles long. There's very few accesses. Oh yeah you know you're right. I remember we had a pw heat from the tournament. They're in what we we got the attention that anisimov parsons weighed in. It was kabaya. They rent way when came to brought the smart in with his bad fish. So we could wait and it was like a six three or six or this. Was that smaller. That miniature scale in your macro swarm are up in san francisco. I couldn't pull about about have to lead. Somebody's somebody structures. Just drive in his crazy ton of them in there. That's an incredible says. I said there there miles up. It is the most untouched massive untouched mama. Fishing attack. the guy goes through not to mention some of the. There's one night and forget. That warned that they bleed. I think they believe their next record. Birsh sure commander there. I can't remember to saturday with no gather some wells. Old anti yeah. There's some fantastic fisheries out here. And i know just in wyoming alone. I mean you've got a number of really good reservoirs for walleye and you know a couple for small mouth that are really significant and a whole bunch that are good for trout of various species. And of course he got flaming gorge with those humongous lake trout. And that's and that's an incredible fishery to we touched on earlier smarter and they've they've kinda taken a dive the they they think that the Burbot that made their way there. Somehow somebody moved burbot down there into that drainage from apparently around this area and They just haven't they haven't done as well they they were doing really well in the early two thousands. I used to go down there with my dad and we'd catch some up to four four and a half pounds and now it's pretty hard to find them. They're still there. They're just not in the quantity that they used to be environmentally. Then yep There's something to be said for that. You know when i grew up steelhead fishing. You'd spend a lot of hours and when you finally hook into one of those thirty forty inch fish. I mean they they take you for a ride for a while but you can fish for two three four days before you even catch one hook one hook up you go small fishing and have those fisher so dang aggressive are fun. It's fun so that's one of the beauty of them. Yeah there's a there's a little reservoir here in wyoming that kicks out you around five pound fish. Pretty regularly And i i went there with a buddy of mine one time and we are fishing. Top water thing between josh. And i we we both got probably fish apiece just fishing little poppers on the surface in it was just a lot of fun and then that thing that you talked about al that happens in wyoming happened in the wind blowing really really hard to get off their old of the gun the boat for your life. Get your your jacket on. Got what. I'll tell you that much we got wet but so what's what's next. What's in the future. What's what's you know. What do you plan on. what's coming up. What are we. Should we be watching for and getting a little long into or the age also slowing down. A little bit i mean jimmy wego muskie fishing me for four hours. I ain't gonna go in our barrett fats or two pound rubber. Big thing can happen. You're only as old as you act. Al see you know strongest kid. My body doesn't want my five. You don't want to receive that. There are things that are wearing down a little think. That's wisdom speaking to abandon. No too so. I i have to pick pick and choose a little bit a little bit more but i still loved the game. I mean know as long as i can contribute that this sport in a positive way. I'm gonna do it. i'm not gonna. i'm not going to quit. I'm not gonna retire up. Going to crack back. And i mean by cutting that i wanna do more fun fishing on the shows. Jimmy jeremy that the staff and other people we work with. I'd like to see troy get a little more involved with this stuff. These guys you pick up the ball and run every night for long enough to fund fish a little bit more by that go do some things and places a lot of bodies of water that i'd like to play around a little bit now for two hundred and a lot of people don't understand that you know when you're going fishing for the weekend without a camera crew that that can be quite pleasurable when you're going filming for an episode that can be you know when you gotta redo takes a redo when you just wanna go explore to make it happen you gotta make. It's working people don't they. They sit in their living rooms and watch that and go. Oh well they were just they. Turn the camera on and went and had a fun time. There's a lot of hours behind the scenes when the cameras work was in. And then there's a year no it's addressing a lot of times a lacking half and on hot fight fetched but then when you dress the show after that. That's when you get the underwater cameras stuff out to fit. That fit the scene where the fisher coming in in to get the right drum shots environment. Those those all add to the editing and make it a little more exciting the music tracks that that go with it. you know. Music is so subtle in you know a lot of shows don't use music because you have to pay Their cost us thirty thousand dollars a year to use a music so yeah bachelor of music track because their royalties and alma my companies right in this is our very first go. My dad and i went she putting this last fall. We hired a cameraman and we took him. And i'm learning very quickly of the shortcomings of we didn't get you know. Be roll. Shot here and this extra shot here and you know getting that underwater shot or that overhead shot that you need in. It's you know it's really hard now to recreate and get those extra shots that we need to produce the film that i wanna purdue so make a real exciting piece you back. That'd be rollers goals man just putting the actual the actual easiest park. It is actually catching deficient getting their artist on films that easy. Then you've everything else is putting it together. It's all better than that anything. Sweetening the more things you have to compliment. Show the better. It becomes the up on where we're struggling. We're stretching it as as as as we can stay but it's fun man fun. It is a lifestyle worth living. Believe me i if you if you could do it. And you find a way to get your niche in their buck doing it your sizzle lifestyle business for a lot of people if you if money is your motivation and you want to get rich. Don't come fishing industry and here's a lifestyle some of us. I mean you could make a good comfortable but if money is silicon valley and they live in that world out there if you want to be able to go out and enjoy the great outdoors and have a comfortable lifestyle. Fishing industry in hunting industry. Got a better choice. you will never regret. it couldn't couldn't goodness it better myself. I have one more question and this is a really important question. Now because on this podcast we talk a lot about recipes and we talk about food. I'm sure you eat fish i. I'm positive that because it's so darn good but is your favorite fish species to eat. And how do you like it. Prepared real simple for me. I had a free nights ago again. It's just brought up perch beer batter perch sounds pretty good to me. A can of bean beam beam some some cream corn on the sidewalk outside with it. And it's like eating better than a lobster themselves as it gets it. Sounds like there's always it's yeah it sounds like you've into edwards family dinner because that's what we do in my house the fried walleye perch and crappie and some some spicy bangs man purchased it. It they are is still. You can celebrate thinking about my wife. Exciting as getting just guys came back from a leech lake and they were a good perch. Blatancy wentz arch for your prize. Bring them over man. Yeah well that's awesome. And again i just want to say thank you again for coming on the show. We're really grateful for you. You know not just the impact on our lives and whatnot. But just i know how busy you are. And i am grateful for you taking the time to spend with us today. I really really enjoyed the opportunity guys. Like i said If they can't be fishing the next thing to do is talk about fishing. What ten below tonight. I'm enjoying. I enjoyed our time here. Today and You know another rapper. During some that you might want to get. You might get some time. You're looking for another guess. she can. She did older jim. Your jeremy better outstanding and they noted you're ready to get the truck getting some real offbeat stuff. Those guys i jimmy and his muskie fishing jeremy those guys. I'm i'm really jealous. Because out. here you know we just don't have access to purebred muskie's it's just we don't have them so i watch those guys and i watch those shows. I just sit there. And i salivate and i cry a little bit because i really wish i could be there but man. It's your fun. Watch those guys catch them. Windfall muskie by turns out. I'm telling you they get like you know that it's happening. After two pearl they get in their fall formless derise turn glassy. You can't even talk to him out space. I can appreciate that. Patrick knows win. When fall. season rolls around. David gone. david all gone but al will. I'll tell you it or if if you make it out this way we'll put you on some fish instead of just talking about some fish arabic bro. I like it man. i'm in well. God bless you and You know be safe on your travels this year and i look forward to watch and more of the winter media so i appreciate it very pretty opportunities guys everybody habitation. Thanks a lot. So i think we should keep rolling for a minute. We'll wrap this show up and do you have to tell a story about al. I'm really glad he came on the show. In my first and only time that i've al was i cast in twenty eleven and i was working on my laptop and i was up in the las vegas convention center and i was sitting on the side. Which is a huge building enormous. I'm sitting out and kind of of the way trying to find a quiet place. I get wifi and do some work for pat gradient. Pk lure so. I'm working on it. And i see this guy. Come out the come off the stairs. I see that it's outlander. And i'm like oh man that's that's all inter i wanna go say. Hi and say thank you. And so i get up and start to head that way and i kid you not. It was like a stampede. The ground shook. You know the sky got dark. There's all these people just came from every direction and kind of cut me off and you know it was like okay. you know. These guys are more important than me. These our sponsors. You know these are guys that have a vested interest in talking to al. And so i'm like i'll just wait here for a minute. I'm sure clear out. It didn't clear out. The mass massive people just got bigger and bigger and bigger and then that mass move down to where all the booths were. And i was like well. There goes my chance. Shake his hand and say thanks But w quicker next time patrick. Yes but now. He's got to spend an hour talking with him and he's he's a wonderful guy and he's made an impact on my life that you i can only just tell you guys that it meant a lot to me today to be able to talk to him when i was younger. My mom passed away. When i was fourteen and after my mom passed away one of my things that it was kind of an outlet for me was fishing just to get away clear my head get away from life and my dad. I remember one saturday. He took me down to cabela's in sidney nebraska which is about a hundred miles from cheyenne. So he went to sydney. Bought some fishing gear but we also went and we found that they had a rack of in fishman. Vhs tapes and books and so we picked up those things and brought it home. And i mean. I was in those things. Like you wouldn't believe you know on those rough winners of shan that i keep talking about you know with the wind. Cystic crappie fishing. That was there. And i don't mean the fish you know we we would watch those videos. And we'd get amped up for that next trip to the gorge to catch small mouth or that trip that we had that next year where. We just clobbered the ele- perch walleye at poison. So you know those kind of things really mean a lot to me and just al and just the way is just how he has so much. Fun has so much joy around fishing. It's just so inspiring to me and so having him on was a big deal. You know for me today so it was great but i learned that and positively right. Vate faith and fishing is what he said. But you if if you're not having fun in this industry and he really did hit the nail on the head. Yes it's it's nice to be able to get to a point. You could make a living at it. But if you wanna make money go to silicone valley go go go create the next app or whatever the next thing is you make money and live that lifestyle but you know he touched on it. He's been in the industry for longer than about anybody and he still working i. It's it's crazy. He's seventy six years old and he's still going and just definitely an inspiration to a lotta people and one of the things. I wanted to pass along as if any of you wanna try to win a trip to go fishing with al. You can actually put in for that right now if you go to. England edged dot com. Which is there lindor media fishing page. So it's angling edge dot com. You can actually enter to win a trip to go with al which i highly recommend you at least in the show notes yet. So i'll have that there and then of course go check out their website. I mean they have so much information on so many different species of fish. It's kind of mind blowing because there's just tons of it and you can order. Dvd's and a number of other things but definitely support them. They're great family. Great group of people definitely take a kid or a new person with you fishing. Pick a go. Pick mali's yeah. It'll catch some mvm. Some of these dvd's are shown. Their youtube channel for over magazine cited in fact last night before doing this stuff. I showed the kids i said. Do you wanna see who are going to have on the podcast and the kids were like. Yeah i do. And so. I pulled up youtube and just played one of their one of their walleye videos. And they're like oh man that's really cool dad and they were all excited so definitely get people inspired. Get him out there. That's the whole goal. Patrick exactly so again. Thanks everybody for listening to this podcast. It doesn't happen without support of our listeners. And david and i definitely appreciate it. We do sorry you have to listen to me some days Or for that matter so as not all there but definitely go to our website. We have shown notes. We have a lot of different episodes on tons of topics. Bears elk in wall. Is you name it. We've got a little bit of everything. And then of course you can check us out on the social media. You want to support us. Computer read cast hat. Give a half ship it to you. They're pretty cool. A pretty sharp and of course. Go out and subscribe you. Know if you're on apple podcasts or spotify or any of those places that you gave your podcast subscribe to the podcast like podcast. Pleased definitely leave us a review. Tell your friends your friends. Yeah so anyway just wanted to say thank you again again. Check us out at red. Cast outdoors dot com.
RADCast Outdoors
"nick knight" Discussed on RADCast Outdoors
"Greatest in late. Greatest poison the war world my london. I'm rigged out with everything you can imagine the boat you know. The latest technology and everything enters a full ride at times. It just a whole lot of fun. It go beat a path pine fish for sure. Get some louis. This episode of rag cast outdoors is brought to you in part by. Pk lures pk. Lures make some of the best fishing lures on the market. They're high quality lures shine when others don't by helping you put fish in the boat or on the ice consistently i've been using keilor's successfully now for over twelve years and i can personally attest to their effectiveness. When is fishing. You can bet that. I have a pk. Red dot glow digging spoon or a fire tiger going spoon tied on one of my rods. They've helped me catch many high quality fish of various species from season to season my favorite hard water lures. Pk spoon pk. Flutter fish in tungsten predator for open water. i love the. Pk spinach ig pk. Dakota disk and the next generation. pk ridge line. Crank bait this past season. I was introduced to the pk. Warbler which is also a really effective fish-catching machine from the boat. They also have some incredible video on their website. Pk lewer dot com to show you exactly how to use these wonderful lures. So if you wanna have a little more success out on the water and you want to help support the company please go to pk. Keilor dot com again. That's pk lure dot com and get your pk lures today and please tell them that. The rag cast outdoors. Podcast sent you. So i was gonna ask you. I've always wondered this. And i'm sure you've talked about it before but you know everybody's got their favorite method of catching a fish catch fish in any type of method. Any any species. I know you love the small mouse. I love the small mouse as well but if you could catch efficient any type of presentation what's your favorite. Revered you're absolutely no question. Whoever i remember watching you on the wall i video and a bass video just catching tons and tons of fish on those jigs. I had a feeling it might be jagd merick rigor and well like smaller. My mouth says big big pig. Pike some version of chicken for must be done gun with tubes. Big rubber bates. It's it's a jig gonna jk. There's a better way for all kinds of fish all the time anywhere. Get a one sti- family of bates natural leaders acted under the heading up a chick but she was a piece of red or some kind would addressing the guy if might wait if may wait. Four ounces for watering might be a one sixty four for crappie a purple mylar. Jig will work pretty good for steelhead. But i i'm preferential to to top water. Dry fly stuff. I like to see that fish commit. Come out of the water. That's just i. I did enough. You know wet. Fly fishing. That i patrick knows. We've gone on some high mountain lakes. And i just. I really liked to fool that fish to come up all the way out of the water. He's any kind of fishing for musky. Your small mop mop secure rare occasions. Pike tap water breaks. Those are fun if you wanna be consistent year round. Yeah you gotta you gotta get beneath the surface of the water. Yeah my biggest hike. Was i had a fifty three inch. Pike and this thing was was monstrous and it was lake. Naturally larry larry dahlberg and he was filming. But we're reading and got in fake cockney kakatua water are you talk about a memorable experience with that and You know where he's been everywhere to do everything. Yeah yeah you know. He's still thought at their daddy issues. Deck it was unbelievable scene and fifty three inch this. We figured it was mid thirty pounds. You know thirty five thirty eight pounds something again. Maybe it was. It was jackie gigantic for bike. That was half water. Fish birds played beat of ball. That would be. That would be a lot of fun. I now i'm like. Wow that sounds like a blast. But i wanted to change gears just a little bit One of the things that have admired you for years is that you're not afraid to talk about your faith and i think that that's very important thing and you know i want to see if he can share just a little bit about your spiritual journey and how god is played a big role in your life after the two most important parts of my life. The next year shared all all the time. It's fishing in my unity. Go hand in hand every day. Day is just part of my life. I integrated what we do with the television shows. You know the the impact that it it a try to kind of quickly for you until the time. I was thirty five years old. You know i was a person. It was not an atheist store. Nick knight that nasdaq. I probably would have favored more upper eighty s. And i don't believe anybody that spends any amount of time in the outdoors anywhere can be an atheist. I think that's an impossibility. But i had no really. I was obsessed. And i guess that's the only word i could use obsessed with fisher twenty four seven. That was all that and you know. It gets all in our businesses. Were building at that point in time and At thirty five started giving turkey in my heart to Right to spirit a guy who was just tugging in my heart. I met people that that Turned her life over to the lord. Lord that were hard party hard-drinking people that i knew a hard partier. You know when they were like a different person you night and day and he started to talk to me about about jesus guy stuff i never heard of before the enemy sound comes with a lot of people you gotta understand nothing really new number and then i started the search knowing there's life got you got your busse heart who's much of his life in in one day turned us away lord has given us percents and i says well i i can't do it myself i need help i need your direction. I'm just saying guidance. Any made a confession of faith. Like they're nice and his life and then for about two years you know i wandered around back. Studied the word guide. The bible began challenged thing to me to get through a through know little things like could this really be real. You know like so many people. It's this bible. Could this stuff really. But this this thing is is there a guide the foundation guiding coke. Jesus was the foundation. Is this thing that he really is is. He says he is to be comfortable recently. Said he did from beginning to end. Yeah you know. And i started looking at this stuff. You know one day it got out of my head arc. It was never less years. All i can say is if you truly search is real. He's there you care some words to be. It's a real experience. You know the the point he's got to get out of your head in it. You have become a part of my everyday life. I'm not ashamed for the dash. That's it openly. That's who lamb. And i can only share the experience that i hear. And how would i life. My family My outlook on business. Now look on life right back by relationship with my wife and the older. I get a clearer easier. It is for me out to be more appreciative.
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"nick knight" Discussed on The Social Hustlaz Podcast
"Sister finding. I think time as she realized i got. That's what car lost. I wish loss. I wish nigger would do this now. Saying what the foot because i fought because you could say it says she kind. Of course you get. You could sell cuban dial had some bitches in aim clinical like one on one the initiative. This do do. Don't respect niggers talking nation and you get out there bible names do not want to live would needs an out about the cell phone off the ground. That's what it crazy live. But how long does that last borough like if you is get knocked out outside of rent there arcana body on that nigga year. Yeah yeah he shot that nigger nigger knock these asl. Now necas always remember you get knocked the fuck out. Why wear j. body white and they think about it but nigga nights you barley for nick knight. You're on the streets. What they do if they could knock you out. And you bodies as talking about the body you got over the fucking knockout in i no pistols dan. They finna whoop. Yo hey when these homeboys run across show is gonna whoop your mother for today's nigger every time they see but now so now you now. You went pc now you hanging out. So that's all. I'm saying.
The White Book
"nick knight" Discussed on The White Book
"A faceless robin with the backstory that's tied to beat Right he's not that different than any other rob can only have his defining characteristics before for so long before it. Just become like a real problem. And then when he doesn't have defining characteristics then that's a problem then. Yeah and jason jason but less interesting than jason saying. That's not possible jason. Todd is an character talk about a character. that's been run into the ground. Repeatedly of that's how do we need to go into we're we're leaving the dc eu further inferno. Hi i mostly trustees e animation to get this right wanna move over to a marble their esteemed editor of the when it comes to film and television like the they're not even competitors at this point the comes to commerce competitors like the marvel dominates and basically every way right. Yeah i'd say over the last couple years now. Dc's been doing decent men on stuff. The distribution issues have been a problem. But that's a whole nother thing to toll different thing to get into which we have talked about previous upset. it's true. I guess. I mean i feel like i don't know about will. I've seen some some social media post will that. He might agree with me here. But i really really liked what vision. Mona's i am definitely mark for the show. Like i am a person who when i i was so cool high school. I watched a lot of tv land And so i watched a lot of fifties sixties seventies eighties sitcoms and nicic on basically every unfamiliar with basically every american sitcom before like from modern family back. And i haven't kept up with like wanna they're really i. I was watching that stuff before it was even on. Tv land when it was still nick. High yeah yeah definitely. I want to play nick knight as a kid a little bit but like even when i was in high school other kids were doing cooler or more. Interestingly dorky things. I was much t- land and nash reruns but lived the same life. This is very weird. It's it's you know. I'm a mark forward..
Reset
Until a Vaccine Arrives...
"Brian resnick senior science reporter at Vox. There's a lot of uncertainty about how the future of the pandemic is going to play out. But what do we know for sure? The one thing we know for sure. And that's always in my mind when I'm seeing stories about states opening up and people going out again. Is that this virus still such a high pandemic potential that just like hasn't been spent pandemic potential. What do you mean by that? So I've been asking researchers a question along the lines of what's really different now than like when I went into lockdowns March and the answer is well few more people relatively speaking have been infected but a lot of the conditions that were really scary then are still scary now and this is a hard thing to think they're like we've seen an enormity of pain of death of horrible horrible things like this is already in my mind like just one of the worst things to happen in modern history but yet so much more can happen and that's like a really at this point in time like after we've seen so much to realize that nationally only a handful of percentage points of people in the United States have been infected by this and so so many more could be in the future potentially. It's it's a really tough moment. So when the epidemiologists that you spoke to look into the future what exactly are thinking about. Yeah so like. Let's say the summer it's not that bad we've opened up. People are still behaving as though there's a pandemic going on. And we generally keep social distancing up generally keep the pandemic from not destroying our health. Care system you can imagine people becoming complacent and anxious to start life again so you can imagine in the fall. There's all these calendar dates that could bring people together again so schools in September can decide to open up shortly thereafter like Halloween which you know brings a lot of if you're ever been on a college campus than on Halloween. You know you see people mingling together. there's election day. There's Thanksgiving these are all days on the calendar where people can start to really collect together again And increasingly indoors. We know this is becoming like we know. This is a clear risks like this virus three doors when people are breathing the same air. We're breathing each other's breath so you can just look at the calendar and like anticipate a potential situation where if there is still a huge susceptible population to get this infection and then suddenly we release all the restrictions and we declare you know. This is behind us. Summer wasn't as bad as those nasty scientists were predicting and warned us about the mets setting up a situation for just like a huge explosion in cases right so people get to go outside right now. A lot of people have not been infected and then in the winter we get bored of this whole thing. The holidays are coming and then all of a sudden. We're all squishing together. Which makes us far more likely to become infected and again as we said people have not been infected and so they were likely to get sick. Yeah and I've had so many conversations with epidemiologists who you know. They're worried about the fall. They're worried about those calendar dates in those family. Get togethers but they're also worried about the summer. They're worried about states opening up too quickly without adequate plans for testing and contact tracing place and we could see a big second wave of the summer to like. That's not out of the question you know. There's just so many possible futures and you don't have to like point to one over the other as being scary like they're hall scary. What are some of the other scenarios for how this pandemic could end up playing out? The first thing to know. Is that in all these scenarios? The virus will likely remain around for years without a vaccine years years. Yeah but there are few different paths. Like what's going to happen over these next two years or more. You know before. There's a vaccine. Let's imagine three scenarios and these are drawn from histories of flu pandemics The first is what we discussed like a huge fall. Wave where you know you keep people safe during the summer and then you create the perfect conditions for this virus to just explode in the fall and winter and then viruses already seated itself throughout the United States so you have like all these like igniter fuzes in all sorts of parts of the country and it could just like you know a powder keg and the fall you know where the fuel another scenario just like we just keep seeing peaks and valleys good just hits different cities a heads different regions at a time and so the second scenario. It's a little chaotic. Okay and what's the third scenario? The third scenario is like a slow burn. It's the plateau where we get to place where cases you know. They're not really destroying our health system. They're not creating crises for different parts of our country. But it's just like not going away. There will be continued infections continued deaths and we manage it perhaps with contact tracing and testing perhaps with learning about more about how this virus is transmitted and avoiding the worst places for transmission. But even in the case where this is the slow burn keeping it under control where we're keeping it from Nick Knight. A huge powderkeg like that. Pandemic potential is still there. It's still gonNA find people this virus sneaky as a long incubation period. People can spread it without symptoms like the bottom line. Here of this scenario is like we're going to need vigilance. Until there's a vaccine we're GONNA need more than fifty percent of the population immune for there to be like a natural slowdown of this pandemic. So until then like more infections are possible in are not going to get down to zero.