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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

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01:35 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

02:30 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

01:39 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

02:55 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

01:39 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

02:06 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"One. The next show is december nineteenth. It's an internet taping and we are going to be doing tribute to mic of some type. I'm going to try to get a hold of some of the awa guys the alumni to come out and participate in it but that's the place to go december nineteen and online is ernie where people can find you or follow you or or not. Oh i'm yeah. That's that's all i do. I mean i. I literally i. I don't know if it's a close. I want to plug something that s for just you know. No no no. No i sit on the computer and i mean literally i still on top of the computer Bike the other night. Well it's it's a little rough you could find me on facebook either You know be directly or i also Steel romaine wrestling. You can find me on there. And then also i have a fan page which is an invite only page. If you want to be involved in it it's called slick mix wrestling fan page. So i'm out there on. I love interacting with everybody. And that's where to find me. Great mic thank you. We'll talk soon and thank you so much for your time today. Thanks wade absolutely all right. That'll do it for me for today. Check out the dell interview for more on the awa. Nick buckle That was last month here at. Pw torch cast dot com. Thanks to our callers and emails for their questions. Sorry we didn't get to everybody. I could talk for three hours with make about nick bach winkle and not even look at the clock so again. Thank you everybody for listening. And tomorrow bruce. Mitchell and travis bryant host the pow torch live cast talking about a week and wrestling including the announcement at tna. Does tv home in two thousand sixteen. They are not going away. They're not going back to spike. They are going to pop tv which is actually available in roughly two thousand twenty percent homes and destination america. It is a step up for them. it so many channels. Now you certainly haven't heard of all of them. I haven't heard of all of them. I had heard a pop tv. 'cause paragon presley was on pop.

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

03:31 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"And another one of my one of my favorite bumps that nick took was not an actual match. If you go back to the larry submits go. Turn in new jersey. When larry hit nick. What the nunchucks. Nicholson an announcer. Came into the ring. And this was nick's actual baby-faced turn in the awa. And larry hit him over the head with nunchucks and nick did that. Flashback bump it is it is a thing of beauty and he would do it for the billy robinson forearms he would do it from the top of the cage against the crusher and you know who knows maybe. They took their toll on him. I don't know but but certainly It was a thing of beauty absolute beauty and the one thing i gotta say as far as that is concerned way too and this is to me. One of the greatest attributes was that he would sell his ass off for everybody and to me. That was the difference between nick and rick. Flair flares matches book the same. All the time knicks matches again depending on the opponent was would be different and it was a far lesser opponent. He would make them look great. I remember he had a match with rufus jones the late rufus jones who was not the greatest technical wrestler in the world. But you know nick. Wrestle in a main event here eddie made rufus jones look like a million dollars and to me that was that's one of nick's true legacy as far as i'm concerned he was that he was selfless in the ring. He would bump for everybody. He knew what it took. He knew what his role was wanted to give people that illusion that he could be beat on any given night by anybody and That's a lost art. As far as i'm concerned. I two more quickies before i wrap up unless you've got to go right now. No go ahead okay. Oh there's another email question. In the bruce mitchell audio show is mentioned that bobby heenan did not know that was dropping the title the autobahns and it led to a change in their relationship. What was their relationship like after he left for wwf. I did hear nick. Talk about bobby. Leaving and he said. He gave bobby and endorsement. Because nick was fifty and his better days behind him and bobby had a chance to make a lot of money. So it doesn't sound like there was resentment over bobby leaving but did you ever hear that story about about bobby. Feeling a little left out of the loop. As far as i title change went. I had never heard that story before. And you know as we all know. It's it was a business arrangement at the time I would be. I would be kinda surprised if bobby didn't know that it was coming. Or if he was left out of negotiation process in the end it didn't. It did really matter because bobby was here for another two years anyway but i have not heard that story now. Some of pro wrestling's best podcasts are. Vip exclusive and you can go vip and find out why we have been supported by paid subscribers for over thirty years with our exclusive top-shelf content including pro wrestling torch senior columnist. Bruce mitchell with the bruce mitchell audio show usually host that program although he has a variety of guest hosts with different themes and unmatched historical insight primarily providing insight and hard hitting analysis and opinion on what. Today's news means. Also the fix with todd martin. Every mid week totten. I sit down for two and a half three and a half hours with analysis. The latest tv shows and major events from wwe aew new japan and.

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

06:33 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"And i think that selling a ticket in saint paul. Minnesota doesn't count less than selling a ticket in new york city or at in los angeles. I mean i. I don't believe in that. I know people on the coasts and vast majority of the population is on the west coast and the east coast in this country but the chicago. Minneapolis saint paul in the surrounding region. And of course later denver and san francisco awa geographically was the biggest tori and so the nwa was lots of territories but no single nwa territory was bigger than awa. In fact awa was bigger than the wwf. It's just seen as number three because it wasn't on the coast other than san francisco later on and so to me where nick is in that conversation. Despite not being the pop culture icon Or the community you know. Brett farve aaron rodgers. Green bay for ganja was to minneapolis. Saint paul I mean he was before major league. Sports were as big as they are today. As big as i live through it as big as fran torkington as big as any minnesota twin in this is certainly bigger than any hockey player in this was pre and be in this town. Verne was at the very top of celebrity. Athletes only certainly was no had. We've talked about this. Before you know went vern passed away that his celebrity transcended you know just the wrestling business. You literally hobnobbed with everybody. You know governors and presidents and vice-presidents them. You know and Book at one point that i was going to make way it it. It's just a little bit of an aside as to what we were talking about. What the awa First of all your point about the the promotion not existing on the coast making a big difference as far a big difference as far as the coverage that they got on a national scale when the magazines are published in new york. And i've talked to bill after about this. It was just a natural deal. You know they were gonna cover a hulk hogan out there right It was that kind of thing. But i gotta tell you if you were an awa fan. In terms of the sheer impact on the awa at sales. I would go spend a weekend and go to milwaukee chicago green bay back to back to back and watch the sell out crowds when nick was on top. And i'm telling you. There was nick and ray stevens there were riots in every building that we went to i mean literally and the the impact on vast scale is just bar not do have the lived through that in the old school era where people weren't behind the guard rail and they were going right up to the ring and It was just beyond words. I guess the only thing. I can compare it to wrestling in the south with fans would absolutely go crazy. And just batch it crazy and so again the impactfully here in the awa. Nick was Nichols beyond here. And i think it's the duration of time on top not just as world champion but a significant figure with race teams. Take champion in the early seventies that that puts them in the conversation with roddy who's a household name. Nationally influenced the biggest brand name in the industry today. The wrestlemainia roddy was you could argue number two behind hogan and i would say perhaps ahead andrei in terms of establishing the wrestlemainia name and then dusty was. I mean we do all. We have done hold shows on multiple hours on him. I i have. I've dusty ahead ahead of nick. But but i think you can like i said there top top one or two percent and it's there's no shame in being number four two on our list to dusty roddy and vernon it's a good conversation. I'm making. I know you've got an appointment to get. Can we squeeze in one more call before we wrap up okay good. Let's let's do that. I let's go to seven one eight thanks for holding. Please state your name and the city. You're calling from mike in brooklyn. I don't i don't make it. Well listen to the. You know the conversation about mr boc wink. I think he saw a sign of class and one of my memory. This is just to dispel a little bit on the east coast northeast. Not i'm thirty six years old now. i a wrestling. And the and the eighty three eighty four and one of my earliest memories is my father. Taking me to barnes jerry and the meadowlands arena nick bach versus rick martel for the awa title with the world warriors underneath and a young scot whole like pretty much viewing like i mean people. Go ahead tom worker. Yep right i was a big fan. I had the little wimp. Coal action figures with rain. And all that nick boxing. I was a fan of his to me. i think i'm kind of dolph. Ziggler mirrors him as far as you know like his in ring. Privacy for i would say palma why to be. Make bachman mike. I'm brett lady. Brought that up Short on time here. But but i think. Nick bach winkle in the ring. You know we think of him. As the determined of that era was scientific you know he was a scientific wrestlers holds encounter holds and those kinds of maneuvers and. He wasn't a big high flyer. Obviously but i think he gets tremendous credit for both the and ray. Stevens are bumps watching nick. Boxing put overhaul hulk for instance with his flat back. Bumps the i mean it and bobby. Heenan was was desserts in the same sentence sentences. Those three they were the best of their generation. At big flashback bombs. I think that curt hennig That nick beget kurt. Heading who begat shawn. Michaels inspired dolph ziggler. And i think maybe. That's where the connection that mike talking about comes from Does that stand out to you. Also as something that that should be in the top five list of things you talk about with. Nick is the absolute Sacrificing he did of his body with those amazing fightback bumps to put his opponent over while he did. And i'm thinking of where he would take a hogan clothesline. Yep yeah. They looked awfully stiff to.

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

08:35 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"Lost four grades this year Vern ganja w rhodes you just mentioned him. Roddy piper and nick bog winkle. I'm not seeing you the most objective source for this question. But i'm going to ask it anyway and give me your best answer because i know you're a student of the industry as much as you are a fan and admire of nick winkle among rank those four. Todd martin nasty this yesterday on the vip audio show. We did together. Ranked does for on impact to the business with the understanding. That number four is in the top one percent of people we would talk about But could you rank those four. In order of the lasting impact that they had on the industry man That is really a tough question. And i think if. I'm going to be if i'm going to be objective about that. And go against my my conscience of candy my personal preferences i. I think that well are. Are you talking. The real history of the business in terms of their impact or you're talking about the the the impact recognition among wrestling fans. I mean like a popular recognition among wrestling fans. I impact on the direction. Th the success that they had drawing money in the impact and influence. They had in their era. While i mean i think verne has to be number one for running the awa. Concurrently being the awa champion In in the largest of the territories. I mean i think verne is easily number one. That's my opinion and then it's a matter of the next three but you don't have to agree with that. But that's i think you can go from there and think who are the next three. Yeah i would agree with vern. I mean in terms of not only is in ring. You know you've been around forever. But the impact of the direction. I mean the fact that he built the empire. No question about that. You know i might be inclined to go with dusty rhodes number two and the reason i say that is because it would be close really reason i say that weight is if you go back to the national expansion. When cable was was blowing up and you you had hogan in one place and you have rick flair dusty rhodes or in another place. I think dusty had real mainstream appeal back then so in terms of overall popularity. Maybe dusty rhodes Piper certainly again at this is from a popularity snap way. This is why. I'm kind of getting caught up in the question because nick to me i mean. Nick was very influential in terms of what he did in the business going into opposing territories Being the to me of a champion what. What have you get nick affect the direction of the business. I don't think so bad. I would say yeah. That was burn. A dusty rhodes roddy piper. They were more of the the entertainer they were more of the over the top personalities both in nwa and wwe. So i suppose when you talk about the direction of the business going from old school to the entertainment era then you gotta go with roads and roddy piper Nick was there nicholas. Solid nick was as great as he was. I don't know that i could say nick. Had an effect on the direction of the business. I think he was kinda following burns. Lead if that makes sense and picking up the The the legacy in that direction or whatever. It is that the awa hat. I don't think nick changed the direction of the business. Yeah i'm with you. I first ranked. I still do i. I went vern and then a pretty decent sized gap to roddy Dusty very close and then a a a smaller drop off After that to nick balk winkle for really the reasons you said. I think it's you can absolutely make a case for dusty. And i think anybody probably from the south would would make the case for dusty. Because i think it's so close kind of your perspective experiencing them would probably tip you over the tip one over the other. I went with roddy number two. Because i think there was no better opponent in the wwf. Hulk hogan roddy piper. I think roddy as much as nick. And bobby were vital to hulkamania taking hold in the awa and were great opponents in perfect. Foils for him there. I think what. Vince mcmahon had in mind for expanding nationally in becoming a pop culture phenomenon and building the wrestlemainia brand linking with m. t. v. being on nbc. After sadder on on Instead of reruns. Saturday night live. During the saturday. Night's main event era. I think that puts roddy over dusty but i i mean you can really make a case for dusty to be i mean when dusty died. He got as much media attention nationally. As roddy in that surprised me considering how much I won't call brainwashing but selective hype of legends Dust that wwe gave dusty compared to roddy. I'm certainly over. The years roddie gets gets. I think better treatment in that regard because of the tape library that wwe references than dusty did. So i think it's really close. But i still edge roddy because i think. Wwe was standing in the end and roddy was so vital for a relatively small amount of time in those mid eighties till launching the wrestlemainia era as the number one. He'll opposite hogan you know and it's kind of interesting and i. I know we're getting off. Nick a little bit. But but i have a question for you wait given what you said about dusty rhodes and roddy piper and changing the direction of the business in compact. Why you personally wouldn't have put ric flair inequities. Oh talking about wrestlers. Who died this year. Okay gotcha yeah it was it was. It's wake. I framed it in that way. I think the question tom brought up because we have spent so much time. This you're talking about these four and when somebody dies you examine their life their career especially in the chair that i sit in and and so we had spent so much time talking about him. It was sort of just a curiosity from todd. Having seen nick and verna close but still seen a lot of dusty and roddy up. Close to how where i stood and he kinda threw that question me flare. Yeah that's a whole other conversation for another day if we started including You know a few others who would be in that top ten list and flair would would be top five. You know what's interesting in as you talk about this more and you mentioned those four the best way i can describe it is. Nick was so good and he was so solid. And i mean he was absolutely a champion power. Excellence he was kind of just there If you knew the awa if you follow wrestling you knew how great the guy was. If you were a huge awa loyalist. You knew how great he was the masses. I guess across the country because again of the the cable expansion would probably say dusty rhodes and roddy piper had more of an impact remember. Vern didn't actually get into that national expansion where he had his talent roster out there until after the nwa and wwf did so by that time it was already firmly established in everybody's mind what wrestling was now supposed to be either. The wwf for the nwa saw again impact on the business. You're in the awa. Nick had tremendous impact. He had as much impact will not quite as much but certainly continued on the begun. Ganja legacy but overall national impact on the business probably not. I'm rich band host of the deep dive with richmond. A weekly part of the torch valey cast lineup of shirts. Search w torch an apple podcasts. Or your podcast. Subscribe subscribe.

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

08:24 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"Something that's not talked about as much in some circles. 'cause pro wrestling wasn't necessarily covered as much like a business In prior decades as it has been the last ten twenty twenty five years But attendance wise. We're their ups and downs with nick on top. And when nick got the awa championship in the mid seventy s especially the the attendance in the minneapolis area. But if you have. Knowledge outside of minneapolis. Saint paul That's great to. How did nick draws champion in the late seventies compared to earn before him And we're their ups and downs along the way depending on the opponent or the era. I think there was both there. Were up some downs. Not so much because of nick. But because of the awa. And when i'm referring to specifically is in the mid nineteen seventies the awa at least in. The twin cities was kind of the rule of thumb. Kind of the measuring. Stick for where. I look at it as a tenants had chicago. And you had green band the walkie and so forth all did consistently pretty well. But in the mid seventies awa Verne kinda got into a little heated a business discussion with metromedia television. Who had taken over a channel eleven. Which is where they did. The wwl tv tapings and because of that metromedia kinda stuck at the burn and they put the awa. Tv show on at various awful time. Sometimes they would preempt the awa. The awa had a long history of being on the air at six o'clock on a saturday night and then all of a sudden they were moved to eleven o'clock on a saturday night or two o'clock in the afternoon or whatever and he eventually it resolved itself of the awa was on sunday morning. As far as nick being a draw. I think a lot of it had to do with the opponent to i know that nick As champion trying to think some of the guys that he defended against. But i mean you know if he would wrestle larry handed or he would wrestle a guy like joel duke or kent patera or chris taylor wrestling fans even back then. They knew who is going to be a champion. And who wasn't i mean. It was still the case era but fans were pretty sharp and nick on top top drew. Well when there was either a major feud or somebody that the fans felt could actually dethrone him. And i'm talking about the billy robinson talking about crushers Sometime mad dog was shot. Certainly his matches with burn always drew. Well so i think it really depended upon the opponent. I don't think nick was a bad draw. Ever when he when he got here but and then certainly you go beyond that where you go into the early eighties awa when hogan was here and needless to say they were selling the civic center all the time i you know obviously a lot of that is hulk hogan but nick and and we're still on topic and so it's kind of all over the board really who were knicks. Best drawing opponents His years as champion is hokey number. One absolutely or togo one list thorny is on the list and again. You're looking at different eras. Really even though it's a couple of years difference you're still looking at different areas because if you go into nineteen eighty one One thousand nine hundred eighty two hogan was on top and the matches at the civic center were drawn eighteen. Nineteen thousand people every month. That was far and away You know the biggest draw. Nick had his matches would burn consistently sold out I know his matches with crusher. Did real well. He had a couple of matches. Mad dog was sean. That did well robinson matches did well and then as i said the opponents where people really didn't buy into. We're gonna have a championship. Change here. didn't do quite as well. Yep that makes sense We talked about his. Let me go to another call. I've got notes of a couple of questions but Let's go to us seven three next year on live with mccarthy. We're talking about nick winkle on the pow torch life cast were. Please state your name and where you calling from boards from chicago. What have you got for us House party the air. I got to actually see you know macbook winkle and hogan you know before before hogan crossover and become hulkah- maniac in I was wondering a guy like mclaughlin has a lot of status. You know when he passed away you can we. Can you can hear how we talked about him. In the current era. W w how would these guys be looked upon. You know in that time you know when they retire. I mean do. We have a side of snow. Who else is i'm trying to say. I'm hoping i'm sitting around the building where they have all sides you know society got independent. You know independent career. Who in the. W w would be the like that actually growing from w i'm just thinking that voice i listen to everything you said and i still have no idea what you're asking. Gimme a one-sentence okay. We try nick. Bakun group is it was eight of eight and when he passed away he has a list of status as far as his character who will be looked upon like that depth. W that's not how sad like sasol which independence they was with ring of like who will look upon aisle. You know john cena let with that type of status. You know idaho anybody in the serra mccoo tops. John cena because john cena is a bit of a throwback. Steve austin talked about this when he had seen on his podcasts. That johnson is going to go down as having one of the great long world. Title reigns Not that there weren't interruptions but like with nick. You know we had the loss to verne but got it back. Lust autobahns but that was more political and financial But for the most part from seventy five through beyond nineteen eighty-one in retirement match. Nick was the perennial champion. It overlapped bobbins. Run in the wwf. At the same time. I guess the nwa equivalent may be harley race during that period. I'm not looking at the timeframe here but for this era it's gotta be john cena and i don't know that there's anybody else who's even close to john in that regard because brock will fall in a different category undertaker will fall into different categories I mean nick. Nick is when my right. When when you think of the awa having followed it all of it nicholas was the first do people think of all no doubt about it a knick and burn and then you go maybe to the second season you talk about crutch jamming mitch. Snow in nick. Well he's he's probably maybe four or five okay. Fair and I in rocky mountain. Thunder is probably six or seven. But i you know aside from that. I think I agree with you first of all. Wait about jobs. And i think to would. Boris might have been alluding to is when a guy passes away or retires from the current. Wwe would he have the status. What he have the The legacy or would he be looked upon as a great like like addict. Bach winkle was when he passed away. And i you know i don't think so. I think that when when you get past the bach winkles the burnt guide us even the dusty roads and the roddy piper's and you know eventually ric flair or terry funk or dory funk junior. I don't think that down. The road are gonna be looked upon in the same legendary status as the as what we would call the old timers. Y'all they'll be remembered from the different era from the sports entertainment. Just like you said. Gotta be john cena but i don't think that they will have the legendary old school status that the other guys you know that. That's a fair comment make. Would you like to stick around on every live. Cats and help us clarify anything that we don't understand with boris. Just.

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

01:30 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"It kind of became a no brainer to him. I don't think the nick ever seriously considered jumping to the to the wwf. At the time and the reason. I say that is because y- vince is starting his national expansion in the early to mid eighties at that point again. You're looking at nick about fifty years old so from a wrestling standpoint. Outside of you know just a talk about doing the million dollar man idea which of course again they. They flipped over to drc. I don't think as an entering competitor and and this goes to your point earlier on with nick have made it today. I mean wouldn't have made it as an in ring competitor in wwf going back to nineteen eighty five. Considering that's when they were really cartoonish and over the top he worked for them. An agent for awhile very briefly. He did some color commentary for them. But i don't really think that there was ever any real inclination knicks per to jump ship and leave for i. I don't think so if you'd like to hear this show without ads and plugs interrupting. There's one thing you can do right now to make that happen. And that has become a pow torch member. He got about a dozen other podcasts. Throughout the week that i host that our vip exclusive. And you'll get the way teller. Po shows podcasts during the week with the ads and plugs removed all on a separate feed exclusively. Vip members plus tons of other podcasts. That are vip exclusive tour archives of podcasts..

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

07:08 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"Athletically did was he. I won't call it a late bloomer. Just did he have a really long prime. Or did the knickebocker winkle that i saw that i i saw not pale in comparison but was was he augmenting a style to be more conservative. By the time. I got to see him full-time in real time and you got it. You started looking at him. And what about eighty one or seventy s eighty one went to live. But i'd watch for two three years before that. I would say judging from what i saw. Knicks real prime was probably seventy two about seventy six and he won the championship in seventy five and he was forty years old when he won the title. What's interesting about it. And you know you talk about how nick kind of adapted his style and changed a little bit you know to the aging process and whatever we you know what i know you know. He had that match with kurt headache on new year's eve. And i believe this was nineteen. Eighty six from las vegas and nick. At the time. I was fifty two fifty three years old and he went one hour with kurt headache and he wasn't even breathing heavy. That was always one of the real attributes about nick. The china maybe more than anything else was stamina that he could go into his fifties and he could hang with or maybe even do better than a lot of the guys that were half his age. But when you say what was his real prime i would say the mid seventies up to an including maybe one the first couple of years. They held the awa title. The thing that worked for nick to is he always kind of looked fifty or forty five like some people who when their forty they still look you know twenty six when he was twenty six. I kind of assume looked forty. I mean he didn't by the time he was fifty two. I don't think he looked all that different than he probably did. When he first won the awa title. How talk about that. In the kind of the the the impression he gave off As kind of an adult among a bunch of Misfits and outlaws too. I think that's a great point. You know nick when he first came here. Yeah he's. I'm trying to think how old nick was. I believe he was thirty. Wanna say like six thirty seven. When i came to the awa seventy he'd be thirty. Five right yes amuse thirty five years old When he came to the awa that that'd be right and And he did look a little bit older. He always kind of looked like the elder statesman. A little bit. And i don't think it affected nick until i tell you what i think. Maybe it became. More noticeable was when the wwf started their national expansion. And by that point you know you're talking eighty three eighty four while now. Nick is close to fifty years old. And now you're comparing him to guys like hulk hogan or you know roddy piper or whoever else on the national scale plus you know the knock on during at the time. We'll see how you're still using the old guard that you're using fifty years ago so somehow it might have been guilt by association. There might have been just you know just a perception or your winkles one of the old older guys But i mean in terms of his physical appearance outside of maybe a little gray hair here and there or just slowing down a little bit Still did it. You know right up until he retired and eighty seven and he didn't have. He wasn't known for his musculature. He kept himself fit. But he looked like throwback in that in that respect where i think nick wrestlers want fit in while we talk about when fit in in two thousand fifteen who were made adventures in the seventies. Nick was a main of entering the seventies who would fit in the thirties. I agree with that. And it's interesting that you bring up next physical stature to because i remember talking to him about this. You didn't spend a lotta time weightlifting. She didn't have that kind of zeke. When you saw nick working out he'd be in the far corner of the arena and he would have those those rubber of armbands or whatever those exercise devices and. That's really what he used. You know the elastic only deals. And that's how he kept in shape Almost an isometric type exercise and it him well because nobody will ever argue. What kind of shape the nicotine and then again from the cardiovascular standpoint. You know there. There weren't a lot two could hang with him so he he did it right absolutely. Let's go to. I email question the scott passenger from gene's new jersey. Vip member What was the relationship between nick and burn. Ganja throughout the years was at father son like vince. Senior and bob back land as bob talked about on the show last month. Was it more like vincent hogan in the eighties to friends rising through the ranks together business partners or combination that they stay close after the end of the awa from what i gather and this is just hearsay And what i saw. I think it was more strict A business deal than there was anything else. It wasn't father-son because in reality you know. Verne was only about nineteen years older. The nicholson there wasn't really that much difference. I think their relationship was was cordial and very professional. And because of that you know dick got the championship firm. Decided that nick was the guy that he in essence was going to pass the torch to to carry the awa. They had a nick or vern trusted. Nick i think Vern saw nick as a wrestler as a guy who you know could appear demise woohoo ruined liked in the wrestling business and you know. Even though nick was a he'll bird's still saw nick as somebody who is kind of emblematic of a champion. And you know their relationship again. Knicks was here in nineteen seventy and then. He didn't leave here until nineteen eighty-seven so you've got a seventeen year relationship and after that I know they still stay in touch. I you know i. I've seen pictures of them online periodically. Were they more social events than anything else. But i think it was a mutual respect -ociety way and i think they both benefited from being in the other's company Scott also wants to know if nick ever came close to jumping to the wb out for the nwa during his prime the nwa. From what i understand actually made an offer at one time. They looked at him as a possible champion. And i think you aware this to and nick had an opportunity at least to not audition the higher ups at the nwa and make the jump what he decided though was because he was making almost as good money as he could be in the in the nwa with verne and work probably has the date..

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

01:50 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"Would he in his. I even say when his prime was because his awa tunnel rings didn't begin until his forty so i assume his physical prime or his entering prime came before he actually was world champion. But how would nicholas prime fit in. Today's seen boy. That's really hard to say. Wait you know. I i hate to say. Probably not well because of the landscape of the business just because everybody is this outlandish character and everybody is kind of this over. The top and nick wasn't You know. I just don't know i would like to think from a selfish point of view. Nick would be terrific. And it'd be you'd be articulate and so on and so forth but the best thing that i can that i can compare this to would probably be ten db aussie when he did the million dollar man That's that's really good. Yeah and even then diaz was a little bit over the top but there there was still enough of the of the class and the and the intellect you know. The the snobbish knows and so on and so forth where you could see that as it related to nick and from what. I understand nick. Actually at one point was considered for the very same role the million dollar man role. So it's not too much of a stretch. But you know it would. He fit in today's Today's wwe. I don't know you know you just have to be this This over the top Just exaggerated the ethical character or you. Just kind of get lost in the shuffle. So i really don't know searching for more great pro wrestling talk. Join me jason powell hosting three weekly.

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

07:50 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"Me about O'clock winkle please give us a call six four six seven two one nine eight two eight again that six four six seven two one nine eight to wait. We welcome your phone calls on on nick and Man i mean there's just so many so many things to talk about when it comes to nick bog winkle. One of my favorite topics is his vocabulary mic. And we're going to take our early show break. We'll be back. Br right after these messages. And i want to pick up on that The the the big words. I realized to make i want to say before we go the break that i people. Give me a hard time. Because the the word k. n. o. w. n. Most people think is one syllable. But i don't say i've run it with heart owen. I call it. No one and people give me a hard time for that. Among other things including my inability to to separate in english a british accent from a scottish accent or an english accent from scottish accent. Apparently which. I'm getting hard. Time for from tuesday show but i realized listening to an interview with nick he pronounced known as a two syllable were to. I'm going to blame him from now on. He taught me how to speak. He said no one. And that's where i picked it up. He will There were more than that that he signed up botched a little bit. But yeah we'll talk. Hey i'm going with him being correct. Okay i well whatever. I got it right. Everyone else is wrong. Don't take that for me. make all right. we'll be right back after this more members. Nick nick balk winkles vocabulary. He told an interviewer once that he would carry around Big words in a written down in a dictionary so that when he was cutting promos they would roll off his tongue. They didn't always roll off his tongue but often they did One of my one of my favorites was Obdurate recalcitrance remember that reference. Yes yes i do. And i i i guarantee a nick had no idea what that meant. knowing heaven unless he had that dictionary with them but yeah that was a classic is no doubts. Talk about obdurate rousey trance. You know what's really interesting about that. You're right and i. I had read that too. That nick carried that dictionary iran with him. A couple of stories about him and his vocabulary early on when we were doing bok. Winco brigade newsletters. Nick agreed that he would send in a column to be posted or printed in the in the back. We can lose letter so every couple of months or so. He would send me yet either. A handwritten or type written column. You know that he had done maybe three or four o'clock in the morning. Some hotel someplace for the bulletin and nine times out of ten wait. I couldn't make hitter tail out of it. Because he would try to writing down these big words and then he crossed them off and each each spell it again and then he cross it off and he'd spell it again so you know. He's sitting there looking at dictionary at three in the morning. You know that. That was one thing that he did. another thing george shire i allude to george he had mentioned that one i nicholas signing an autograph to george was gonna compliment your john. Ding his resident statistician. And of course he had to ask your tidiest bill. Statistician one i he was I i- minneapolis. Auditory signing an autograph for for me and he wanted to be insulting wanted to kind of chide me which nick always did and basically what this was going to say. Is you know. Congratulations on ten. Years of running. Might fan club whoopie. I mean this is what he was going to say he was gonna finish it up with the word whoopie and he asked me he said. How do you spell. What and i didn't have any idea guest. And then what he had the autograph. He had spelled a. w. h. o. p. p. p. puts three piece on their no es no wie no nothing dicks dix cavalry was suspect every once in a while. Let's put it that way. And he was a what was he. He was a college graduate in media relations at ucla. Is that what he said. What yeah you know. I who different stories. I don't know if nick ever actually got a degree. I know he had gone to oklahoma and then he had gone to ucla and actually his major was marketing and trade. Maybe that's all looking at you know i. I don't i don't know if he ever actually graduated or not because he was wrestling while he was going to college. But i think that was his focus. So i wanna talk a little bit about our great But i want to talk about the dynamic between nick bachman. Bobby heenan. I believe in. You can speak to this better than i can. That bobby heenan had chemistry with a lot of different wrestlers. Obviously he was the greatest. I think is the dynamic the synergy the relationship on air with nick was as good as it gets They were so different from another i. I've never used this analogy before. And i'm not even sure it's it's a good one. But you know how and animal had such a dynamic. Kazakh was kind of funny and and had a different kind of tone to him and he would say something funny and and make fun of. Ken resnick whatever and then animal. Just yell and be intense and her win. It was even more dramatic. With nick. And bobby nick would be calm and collected and make his case with big words and he was articulate. He would enunciate everything perfectly he. Wrap up and nicholas talking. Bobby's just getting all worked up. And all of a sudden boom. It'd be bobby's turn and he would just rant and rave and just lose his cool and one the fun parts and. It's hard to do this. Because bobby so entertaining is to watch nick while bobby the promo because knicks got to stand there and not laugh and not like react improperly but together that dynamic. I can't think of two people on camera. Much less a manager in a wrestler who i think had a better dynamic than those two i mean lance russell and jerry lawler regret. That was a different relationship to talk about that that partnership on air but then also after that talk about it off air because i think you have some insight into that we it's interesting. I was always under the impression that if a guy couldn't talk it was a good idea to give him a manager. Yup you were were a guy could come out in the mouthpiece for some guy who really couldn't cut a promo and i think a perfect example of that today is paul heyman and brock wesner. What was interesting back then. Is that. Nick obviously could do just fine by himself. But you're absolutely right. The dynamic of nick and bobby. I don't think there has ever been a better combination. Remember bobby was with some great guys. Ibm bobby was with rick. Bob us with all the guys in the in. Wwe wwf and wcw and on and on and on but there is no question in my the single best manager and wrestler combination. Ever was nick and bobby and it played. Well not only you know during their promos but of course you wait you know you go to a match and when nick was getting the the crap kicked by some baby face and he rolled out underneath the ropes into bobby heenan arms and they hugged each other. I mean that was just absolutely institute It lit up the building so no question about it..

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

03:10 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"God love it all the other guys who just wanted to growl and bitch and moan and groan they actually gave me a category to be in all alone all by myself Make that's what i. That's the first thing that i say. That's my lead sentence for nick. there's a lot more to say about him. What jumped out to you when you for some years before. I did really interesting what he was. First coming to the awa nine hundred seventy weight. And i got word that he was coming to the territory. I had read about knack magazines back. Then though no internet or anything like that a few fan newsletters here in there. And i had read some of his matches not only in hawaii but los angeles of course Down into georgia just before he came to the awa and yet okay. Dick bock wrinkles coming. Well that's interesting and you know. I didn't give it too much credence because i truthfully haven't paid a lot of attention to nick winkle and then all of a sudden here he appears on the awa show and i think the same things that jump out at. You jumped out at me. It was like where in the world of this icon. I mean this. Take on your way to the studio. Exactly you hit it right on the head as far as the old your typical wrestling pro especially for heels. And we're going back to the healed. As of mad dog and baron von raschke and larry any crusher and bruiser in you name it and all of a sudden here comes this guy and he's talking quietly and ease the intellectual and is george mitch and many times before one of nick's maybe they might have been as i pro The awa tv show he basically was asked by martin. O'neill what are you doing here. Nick said you know. I'm here to chase to go. After burn ganja and the awa title and they could spend a lotta time in hawaii and dick said after time in hawaii. We have a phrase when somebody is leaving and that is aloha and he said. I'm here to say. Aloha burn ganja yet from that point on. I mean that was just enthralled with this guy and then subsequently just watching him wrestling watching the heel persona watching the fact that he could wrestle and he wasn't a brawler. Just the whole package was. I'd never seen anything. Like it. And i was hooked from the time he got here in two thousand twelve. Annex t transitioned into the developmental system and ultimately the brand usa today on the torch. Vip podcast inex- t years back. We'll be taking a weekly look at this page in and exceeds early history. Join kelly wells and me. Tom style from. Wt talks every saturday as we go. Eight years back to the day to track annex teas rising talents and why they did or didn't work out exclusively for pw torture vip members. Welcome phone calls. Did you want to talk to make karsh and.

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

08:21 min | 4 d ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"To be remembering be creates nick bach lincoln a longtime awa champion Almost uninterrupted from the mid seventies through through the early eighties held at one other time ended up. Kind of passing the torch to kurt heading in the latter days of the awa. But nick was as i put it on tuesdays. Live cast which eysenck powell my world champion growing up. I learned that that nick was the best at what he did that verne ganja used to be but was unable to get the belt from and my first pro wrestling event was vern. Gonyea chance his retirement match the legendary gandhi. The of awa the promoter in owner behind the scenes was going to give it one last shot in may of nineteen eighty-one and wanted to see her beatnik buckling goal. And the first ticket i ever bought for professional wrestling was to save ganja defeat nick bach winkle to win the awa title. Vern would immediately. Retire and nick would be awarded the championship by default since verne had retired But it was for several years before that as a kid that i watch nick. Lincoln cut absolutely awesome. He'll promos as the intellectual snob looking down his nose at the humanoids as they called him as he called us. And the dynamic with him bobby heenan was unmatched. I talked about that with todd. Martin on the the fixed with todd martin. Vpo show last night. When we were reminiscing about nick mcmichael and putting putting him in in historical context or trying to and he absolutely had a dynamic with. Bobby i think was better than any other wrestler. Bobby heenan managed. And i think they're pairing was incredible so on today's program. I'm pleased to announce that mccarthy will be my guest. He's been in the last before multiple times. We had him on earlier this year. Talk about the death of foreign ghana. Who i spoke up. It's been a quite a year for big names in professional wrestling history dying this year. Nick balk winkle roddy piper dusty rhodes and burn ganja the four biggest names. We lost this year. And we've done special shows on all of them. And i'm very pleased that mccarter joining me on today's program to talk about nick. The reason mixon is. He ran nick. Fan club throughout the nineteen seventies and eighties. He was a an ultra for the awa. Did ring announcing at the showboat pavilion in las vegas when the awa was on. Espn don a lot of other announcing still does play by play for local indy promotions in minnesota and he was a former towards columnist and also hosted a wrestling block saturday night at ringside for a long stretch time during the late eighties and early nineties. And he's just he's been a great friend of mine for years. We used to travel to rochester minnesota in the dying days of the agency. The last tv tapings at awa did and i got to learn a lot about his theories on the k. assassination and so many other topics back in those days too. So it's just great to be able to bring mic on the program. God is this. You actually make welcome to the program. Thank you wait. I wish it was under different circumstances. But it's always a pleasure to be with you. It is always great to have you on the program. I i knew. When i heard the news over the weekend i knew who i wanted to have on the show today and i mean there's there's nobody better think george shire fellow historian and book author and minnesota wrestling history. Said that on your facebook page that you are the go to person when it comes to nick's career mick. How how did you learn about nick's death maybe tell tell. Tell us that. And and talk about how you react to it. And then we'll kind of work backwards from there and talk about how you first got to know him what it was about bach winkle that led to you starting a fan club based on based on his him as a on air television wrestler. How found out weighed. You know you talk about a rude awakening. i literally. that's what it was Funny thing. I was I was having computer issues last week. you know and and i was running a computer scan before i went to bed and woke up in the middle of the night. Kinda restless and i thought i'm gonna go check and see how the scan is going and while i did that i went to facebook. And this is about four thirty five o'clock in the morning and lo and behold. I saw post from morgan dollar. Who is a One of the executives collie flower ellie club. A good friend of mine and morgan. Basically there it was. He said i got a phone call from carl lower who is Kind of the head of operations there at cac. And carl had notified him. That nick had passed away during the evening and again. I'm like half awake. And i read this and the bottom literally fell out. There was I can't describe it to you. I just absolutely cannot. I mean i knew that that nick had been in ill health. You know for the last several years but never ever did. I anticipate that he was going to be gone as quickly as he went. So it was a total shock to me. It's there a cause of death mic. That's known well you know. I kinda getting conflicting reports You know nick had had some serious memory issues for the past several years and he really was kind of going downhill wade. The last couple of times that. I saw my colleague flower alley. I noticed a real market difference from the year. Before and last time i was out there in april it was it was really evident Not only that his his memory was going because he would he would recognize. You know a lot of the people that came up talk to. But there was those that he didn't and he should have And so that was kinda glaring and then he also really looked more frail than he had in the past. So i think you know i. I don't know if there was an official cause of other than the fact that you know. I think he just shut down and Again really really surprising. I don't think there's been a definitive word from the family. They're very private group knicks failing nick's wife and and his his relatives. So a not a lot has been actually released regarding the cause. But you know it's it's i guess it's kind of moot and just tragic wanted to get that out of the way because i'm not i don't wanna spend a lotta time mic and i don't think you do either talking about You know nick at a stage in lift a great life and high quality life. I don't think we spend a of time talking about the last few years with the time that we have with you in this hour. I wanna talk about what made nick. Perhaps my favorite wrestler of all time. And i hesitate to say that because your vancouver president unequivocably. He is your favorite But as i said at the intro he was my world champion. Grow up and the thing that i've been saying all week about him is that he was the the contain it. When you do scientific experiments there's a control group. There's these people were not gonna do weird things too. But then we're going to do things to all these other people and we want to make sure that those changes are not showing up on the control group so that we know it really is. These things were doing to that. Nick was like the control group. He was the guy who stood there on this show to this wide eyed eight nine ten year old watching w for me in the late seventies. He was this normal articulate guy who could have been an insurance salesman which he would go on to do so everybody else stood out mad dog for schon the crusher baron vaughn jesse the body on the other end of the spectrum in terms of you know Weirdness he was the guy who kind of made everybody else seem weird but also i think made pro wrestling. Even though he was he'll seem like a respectable sport. This is a quote that he had that. I think summer i said i just read this. Two nights ago in the pro wrestling hall of fame the heels book. This is a quote from nick..

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"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

10:03 min | 1 year ago

"nick bockwinkel" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"The wrestling Tuesday it's got its own separate feed from under the hood to the resting Tuesday the podcast subscribe that way you'll never miss an episode and it airs by the way twice a week now two zero sum Tuesday because it's always so much wrestling going on it's been interesting twenty nineteen for pro wrestling for sure this past weekend we had some interesting events a lot of them as a matter of fact including TLC emanating from Minneapolis Minnesota let's dig into that momentarily so TLC tables ladders and chairs as the event for the W. W. E. this past Sunday and I thought it was a really good show not great I thought the ouster black defeating buddy Murphy was the best match on that card is is two guys are kind of know the car trying to figure things out but they have plenty of time to battle there are some really good action in that one so I think that if I was gonna choose my favorite match of TLC was that all the matches on the card included king Corbin you see him on SmackDown on fox he's like when the bigger heels as in the W. W. we defeated Roman reigns that tat table ladders and chairs match up king Corbin continues to win these matches with the help of Dolph Ziggler and with the revival in others but he loves being the bad guy I heard of an interview recently on W. W. backstage on fox he definitely loves me the bad guys so he doesn't have bad performances so if you hate him he's doing the job for sure Aubrey why defeating the Miz only stop there this was a non title match right between free white in the ms but yet the referee showed the belts the mills as if there was a title match site it's not a title match why are you showing on the belt it's like boxing MMA you sold the of the challenger the belts they showed the bell to ms even though it was a non title match very strange as number one number two the story line was that the ms we will continue to get attacked by Bray Wyatt as far as free why coming to the home of the mill is are trying to talk about his family all that in so if someone this with your family you'd want to fight them right you want to fight them okay for whatever reason in this battle between wide in ms ms looks so weak it so W. W. E. that's the best way I can describe it like if some of the tech your family would you read like trying to fight and try to rip this guy's head off not the ms he tried to wrestling moves and it just came across so flat even the crowd knew that as well the main event in the match up with the kabuki warriors against Becky Lynch and Charlotte flair to retain the titles tables ladders and chairs that match up as well only problem is is that curry sane who's one of the kabuki warriors had some kind of concussion it was really ugly too if you watch it there was a monitor that was thrown I think that Kara got it like a monitor to the head or it is a couple things where you can kind of pinpoint where concussion typical took place she is amazing they didn't stop the match clearly if if she's just punching the air probably she's can cost she could not even it was really bad and the WWE just continue with this match because he got a port Charlotte in and Becky Lynch in a great spot right you got to keep the match going and I think there was a major mistake some thoughts from bully ray from busted open on SiriusXM about that the bar for TLC matches have been set so high the spectacular bombs the amazing moments anything and everything that makes TLC matches so memorable now you have the stress of remembering every last thing that's going on now you have the stress of going on last on the TLC match George Bush stress alone can get to you trust me when you're on the other side of that curtain right before you go back about two out there a lot of things go through your mind and when you have a half an hour's worth of match to remember and then all of a sudden within the first five minutes or so you take a good shot to your head you blow up now people are saying wouldn't bother should carry scene wasn't blown up well there's two ways you can blow up in a match you can blow up physically in your lungs that just means you're out of shape and you don't belong in the rain we don't see many people physically blow up anymore right that means they can't handle the physicality in the ring they need to put in their cardio times of your blown up in the lungs that's one thing but what happened last night is a lot of guys and gals especially this could happen to carry she was blown up mentally meaning one thing goes wrong in that match you take one good shot to the head and then everything goes black exactly what happened in that contest a TLC cari same features she's just punch in air she just was fighting just the wind milling anything that she could thought she was saying that was not great at really with that in the I mean it ended well because Oscar and carry saying we're able to retain the women's tag team championships against two formidable opponents in Charlotte flair and Becky Lynch but it just that was not great at all something else too the NWA had their paper view the refurbished brand new NWA the national sea lions I and it was into the fire the paper view they had some good things and some question marks about that paper view but the main event was Nick Aldis against James storm for the two out of three falls for the world to a championship I thought that was an excellent match up you thought you talk about to the great champions in wrestling in twenty nineteen they call this is that guy because he's defending the championship all across the country he's he has this been terrific you lie Drake in Ken Anderson had a match I watch this paper view I thought that that was a great opener for them in for those that have not seen the new NWA you I've seen in the eighties and the nineties I even back before that the UW way is still based in Atlanta and it is a smaller arena it's kind of like have backed studio wrestling elected a studio television setting now a lot of people in there but it's full and loud and so they're trying to do something that works years ago and it's pretty what we're gonna pretty well I thought that their paper you for the first time with this new iteration of the NWA was pretty good among some of the other matches on here I thought that the I thought that the cold Cabana Ricky Starks errant's divas match I thought that that was good not great just you know if you try to put a serious quote unquote serious wrestling product on I don't know if you're in Stevens works for what they're trying to do I just wasn't a big fan of him but he won the national championship in that one so that was an interesting match up but I I think that wrestling in twenty nineteen is going in the right direction because here we go twenty twenty right on the corner and there's a lot of places for men and women to work women are getting over weight more than if they ever have in wrestling thank you which is the face of the WWE you're like a wrestling fan of the past you saw stone cold Steve Austin although again and all those people there the face of the company in the NWA's ric flair eight of you a Nick Bockwinkel you know whatever where were you thought was the face of a company now Becky Lynch is that person I think she still needs to be able to get over a little bit more though it's a struggle but yet women are really over in twenty nineteen and beyond now for professional wrestling the more women's matches now that you've ever seen in wrestling there's a time where women were just a novelty in wrestling wait to see him you know once a card once every other card now you're watching a rusting show for two hours you might see three or four women's matches and they are competing as well or better than the men it is it's really really impressive so I'm I'm really enjoying that but I think when I'm watching wrestling in the one watching the WWE the question I would have for them is what is the direction of the company from raw and SmackDown NXT I saw the ratings for raw this past Monday was at two million and it seems like it's going backwards instead of forwards I know that the excuse always as well Monday Night Football against when I rock because when I wrought errors seven to ten PM central time it's usually gets money like football with your wrestling fan you're tuned in but Ross three hours and I saw the numbers at a at two million it's not it's not the product I think that's sick man dot he has on Monday on Monday nights and also on Friday nights were SmackDown it's still it's an entertaining show but it doesn't hold you sold so much alike we act I can't wait to see next Friday that's the thing in twenty twenty hopefully there's some excitement for that company so you can say I can't wait to see this I can't see that there's not a lot in dissipation because when you have three hours on Monday the two hours on Friday it's like well I've seen everything C. five hours a day out of you what can I look forward to I really don't have cliffhangers because it seems like they're booking is going week to week when it comes to what they're doing so that a Wednesday night so Wednesday nights is this is the spot even though both companies all elite wrestling that's on TNT and NXT this on on the USA network it is they are fighting for pretty much a million viewers every single week maybe two million viewers every single week so it's still somewhat niche but it's growing it's our lease Wednesday nights when they're up against each other between seven and nine PM on Wednesday night it's fun and all the other independents around the country to as wrestling team to grow if you are a small company all the covers able to grow as well but remember nothing really works out until the WW streets out their business the WWE Star City have story lines it makes sense and getting better with that then it will be better for the overall wrestling business don't forget to check out.

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