17 Burst results for "Neymar Messi"
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"neymar messi" Discussed on ESPN FC
"Maybe the USA for their aggressive recruiting perk is any of it warranted from the England manager. Sure. It's also short sighted of them. It's also a very arrogant take, the Premier League is the only league in the world. It is the best league in the world for my money, but to assume it's the only league in the world to assume that a player that is battling for the Golden Boot with the likes of killing them bop it with the likes of Neymar Messi who play there like a Z it is very short sighted, a player who you're 21 is a value very much. They seem very upset that this is happening. Who could potentially do something in the future for you? It's short sighted to say, hey, not right now. Maybe go play in the Premier League someday, and we'll check you out. But all that players that Southgate mentioned are not even 30 yet. And he has a player in 29 years of age, Harry Kane, who is the all time leading goal scorer for the English national team. He can say this because England has the luxury of maybe turning away players. He also has the luxury of not sending precedent because if you do this for one dual national, you may have to do it for all the dual nationals. And he's right if you think about the U.S. men's national team, let's say this was a player of dual citizenship for Mexico or on lunas. You wouldn't say just cap time to cap time, would you? That's actually something that on this show, we've been very much against and it's not about being predatory with your cap ties, but it is about flows case going where you feel valued going where you feel there's a future and ultimately if that's not England and if this is the ultimate say that gets you to believe like, hey, my time's not there. That's what it is. But in our shots fired in multiple places, but there's also a sense of truth here. Yeah, there's a line for me between like what they're calling a predatory call up when you're capping a kid at a very young age without a real plan for him. Right. And maybe this situation specifically with balagan. And I think
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"neymar messi" Discussed on ESPN FC
"I'm Gabby's Jules horrible great skies over West London, horrible, gray skies over Jules head as well. You like the Charlie Brown character? I am very sorry, Paris has your man out. I think personally deservedly so over two legs losing tune out. But George, there was a moment in the first half. When you thought, hey, we can do this. Yeah, I thought the control the pace of the game well, they controlled the first half well. They played, I thought with some sort of maturity, some cohesion collectively, they occupied the pitch really well, different zones. Everybody was, it could have been better because I think there was maybe a potential considering buying with so upset with Kylian Mbappé. And it looked like it was a whole Killian plan. Yeah. And then exploit that. For example, if you pull already, you know that will probably understand if it would be a long and bad pay, which means that the layers will be in that zone. If you put hakimi and vitinia, there was way to find even more spaces. They didn't do it as much as I would like them to do. Instead they put somebody very quick and dynamic like you know Messi. Yeah, which again, but you're right, but I think there was potentially in that first half to be really, really on top. And then they didn't take the chances, the one for me that the Mendez crosses are, I think you can even take a shot. You can even take a shot, the big one is obviously the victim one. I still don't understand now why Russia is so much, and then the shot is so soft that the layer has the time to come and clear it off the line. And then when you don't take your chances, in a game like this, you know that I have time that is going to tweak some thing, make an adjustment tactically for his team to be better in the second half, which is what all very good coaches do. And not so good because she's like Christopher Garcia, don't do anything. I think there's a resilience to this Bayern team. It's courageous making some big calls obviously stamens said you had a jock and sell. We're going to get into that into that later. That's still a call. When you think my name, not a 100%, he doesn't go with the reputation. He leaves him on the bench. They're coming off. I thought a really poor performance at the weekend, right? Instead, it comes together, they're not rattled, and they see it out. Even when summer went walkabout, I saw, okay, is summer is going to be? Are they going to miss Schneider? Is this a situation where someone may be at this level, the mentality? No, he comes back, he makes it save officer Ramos. I don't like this whole metaphysical stuff because I don't fully understand it, but it's a thing, right? Yeah, come on, say, when I swim after the game, he said, we used to this. This is what we do in a way, which is true. Because PhD don't have that mentality right now, they might never have it. I think it's something that it's weird because they have the big players, right? Yeah, but they don't seem necessarily have that they have players who haven't probably have it as individuals as a team as a collective. It's not there. Exactly. Who knows? It is a thing, even though it's metaphysical, I ought to ask, there is now this raises a million questions about places. I mean, I think in some ways, it's kind of stupid because the million questions would be there regardless, even if they win the championship. That's the main questions will be there. So questions aren't true, but hey, it's tradition. They've been eliminated. They knocked out again. The only trophy they can win this year is ligand. So the questions are up there. Our questions about messy, questions about questions about Nasser questions about the ownership, questions about Galileo other than his immediate family by fewer people care about that. Way to begin jewels. I don't know, I think it's a bit early now because it's so recent and raw in a way, they're not going to make any decision quickly on geis future. For example, although I don't think it's good enough for this level anywhere and I think if you right now you need an overhaul of that squad, you need to start building something like ten haage is doing a united or even after arsenal. And it's not the right guy for that. So you need the right person to run manager to implement all of that. So this is really interesting. And innovation jump in, but I think what you're suggesting is you're not talking a man manager who manages big egos, big stars. You're not, we're not talking about our friend carleto here. No broad stereotypes. You're talking about somebody ground up multiyear project. You've tried, you try the try to quick success route in a way by going bling bling. Let's get the biggest name. The perceived players that come ibra Neymar Messi and you want. That hasn't worked. I think maybe the time to switch a little bit, your the way you do this project, to go maybe with thinking about the team more than individual. And for that, I think you need someone who will build a startup plan. It's a great point. There's an argument to be made that you have built the Paris Saint-Germain brand today. Exactly. One of the biggest in the world, now focus on just getting it to be great on the pitch. Mark Ogden suggested, for example, I'm sure he's a treating car with the idea on his own. Others in France, I said, hey, France produce all these great players. What if we price as your man? What if we just Hoover them up when they're young? And go that route. Yeah, it is. You know, as easy to do than to say it. But yeah, yeah. All right, Joe's, I want to pick up some of the questions about Paris has your man's future. But first I want to make a point about the game, which people often have, we were both on the FC show last night and other Moreno made a point about, you know, it's difficult to play Bayern when you have two people who just walk around the pitch and occasionally they try. Now, one of them is, you know, messy. This is an old thing. This is how he plays. This is how he's played really for the last 7, 8 years of his life. Some of it is an enormous football brain. So he knows how to maximize that. Some of it is 35. He makes the right decision wants to be fresh. I don't expect Leon Messi. I expect the team to do the running for Leonel Messi. And that's what he did for Argentina, for example. My callister Alvarez, all these guy aims are running themselves into the ground. That works, right? You want a world copy, you want to call a bunch of Ballon d'ors at home. I'm not going to fault messy for doing that. Then you knew this is how he plays the game and he's very effective playing the game. He's had a really good season this year. Even for Paris, I was your man, right? I mean, get a stinker last night, but he's been he's been good, right? We're not going to have a little more than that. However, I'm sorry is your boy. When Killian and BAPE does that, and it's not just with price as your man. We saw it at the World Cup with France, right? He becomes a player of moments off the ball. He becomes a player where he doesn't track back. He doesn't do that side of the game. And again, ostensibly you do it to remain fresh because when he gets the ball he's devastating and he was devastating in those moments in the World Cup final, right? But on a club team, but did France don't have Lionel Messi playing for them. No, no, yeah. You can have one guy like that and we could even question whether at this age that is up. He should be like that. Because you know what? I invite people to go back, watch even christiano. At that age, right? Early christiano at Manchester United, even as first couple seasons at ra Madrid, this is a player who's still tracked back.
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"neymar messi" Discussed on ESPN FC
"Yeah, it's what I thought too, but clearly, you know, by in meaning find a way to, in fact, make messy and namor invisible and they knew that it would not defend. So they were very high on the field, you know, cutting all the possible passes to Nemo, and personally doesn't exist. I think the middle of the pocket is not strong enough as well. We are very good Ramos. Danilo tried his best in the middle of the park, but that's it. Otherwise, I found the players and all quite poor comparing to the Bayern minica Tim. And that's very worrying in a way that, well, we have all international players there. And they have to sort and we say that for almost a decade. They have to solve the problem with the front line, you know? It can not be only players who play when they have the ball. It's not possible nowadays to have those kind of players. So when you have one, maybe you can deal with. When you have two, it's impossible, but Paris Saint-Germain, they have three. So there is no way that they can sort out the problem because the position is not right. The thought is not right. And you can be the best coach ever, you can't solve the problem out. It's impossible. When Manchester City went to Paris last year, and I think it might have been a draw or whatever. But they completely played them off. In terms of their thoughts in terms of watching the game, just blew them away in terms of the football that played. Biomedical haven't done not quite as much, but pretty much more dominant, but setting my point as city were flying in. Say we're playing great. We thought they were going to romp the Champions League. The one the Premier League, this by hand side by their stand doesn't even if he had listened to nagos man over the last three or four weeks since the return from the World Cup. They've been getting the result, but they have not played well. They've not always dominated games. He has been shuffling his squad and yet they were able to go there. And pretty much when I count, I mean, that kind of tells you where PSG are at the moment. Yeah, I mean, we've got a tight offside lobbed out because of a knee when Mbappé is called. But I mean, apart from that, I didn't really have to break much sweat. And if they go out in the second leg, no, Stevie said, they will be kicking themselves. A PhD pizza in that game. It's on that city completely dominating PS. Yeah, so I couldn't rock back and remember the performance. Is this just never going to work? You can't have Neymar Messi and in BAPE on a team that's going to go all the way. Well, I think we should start off by saying that Neymar, they need to get rid of him. Right. You know, we're talking about what you've got two. We've got three. And they don't do anything unless they have the ball. Well, right now, Neymar doesn't do anything if it doesn't have the ball. And right now, when he does have it, he doesn't do anything either. Get rid of him, but who's going to be paying its wages? That's a thing, isn't it? An aging Neymar isn't an appeal to. I mean, I'm not going to go to you, right? But I'd like to thank if they had a full squad, then somebody would have the guts to turn round and beige Neymar. Stevie, you know the hands are tied in that situation. We've seen it. But again, it goes back to you. We talk about what's the problem with PSG and there you go. You've got a guy who's a complete and utter passenger. But. You're not allowed to not play them. That can't be right. Go on, Frank. That's not only that problem on top of it, you know, because they knew that they have a lack of death when Mbappé doesn't play.
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"neymar messi" Discussed on ESPN FC
"Very competitive. That should not have been dominated the way long terminated them. That's all, even without Neymar Messi. Frank? Yeah, I think the way the last played it would have upset name off for sure. And it would have been disturbing for him to see that pressure and in the middle of the park with four fana, especially the captain of France. I think that guy won't stay in Lance for forever. I think we're going to see him coming maybe to the Premier League or anyway, big big clubs in Europe because he's a fantastic skipper. And yeah, they've done everything to make sure that Parisian couldn't breathe. And you can be messy. Yeah, you are the best player in the world, maybe. But it's hard to cope with the chim, completely invested in what they want to do and playing all together with according to the cost tactic. It's what Lance did perfectly 100% which of course the lag that you need to be to be to score goals. And it's what happened today. I don't think we even with Neymar and Missy was all due respect, participant men could have done something better. They go the PSG got jewels. Were you happy with it? I thought it was watching after we was a bit dodgy. I thought somebody had to board in his hands and I could see the hand first even, so no he was just not a clean on the ball. I mean, he was given by the referee. You can understand Craig said that he was okay with it. The other chance he is, especially in the second half, a three one down to come back three to sarabi, especially the massive one and breathe somebody the former forest keeper made a great save. That's not, I mean, yeah, they gave that gold nice. It doesn't matter anyway so much, but it felt at the time that they gave that goal because it was four PSG. If it had been that girl was not going to have been allowed. It was fortunate. No, it didn't matter. No. No. No. It doesn't match up. And you just want to ask that question.
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"neymar messi" Discussed on ESPN FC
"The defending champions are through to the quarterfinals after a three nothing Victor three one actually van dusky, I think, at the end. Got one. But instead, it doesn't matter if France are through to the quarterfinals after soundly taking care of Poland and records all over the blue Olivier Giroud passes here and for the most goals for the national team with 52 Kellyanne Mbappé. Of course, with a brace passes Pelé for the most goals of the World Cup under 24 years. So I can't wait to get Marconi comes in and discusses that statistic. But tremendous stuff from France pretty easy. Luis Miguel and me here, ESPN. Daily, we got gamma Cody hill come in and chime in. Hey Mari will hopefully join us later. Her computer apparently is having some issues. I don't believe that for a second. She's getting ready for England, I think. But Craig Burley finally joins ESPN and he cracked fantastic to have you here. Your initial reactions as France takes care of polling, my friend. Yeah, I don't think it was a surprise, but yeah, it was the Killian and Bobby shore in the end again and that continues and I think Didier deschamps will be hoping that continues all the way through the tournament. You mentioned that Olivier Giroud or a Trojan he's been not the most subtle of French players down down the years in a historical manner. But how effective is he been breaking that French goal scoring record? A great foil for deviation is time in charge already a World Cup winner. And yeah, no real surprise. I mean, I was quite actually pleasantly pleased in the end, a little that was comfortable for France. I was pleasantly surprised that it was somewhat of a contest because if you'd watched Paul and getting out of the grip stage, it was a giant yarn. So at least pushed France particularly in the first half, could have had themselves a goal, got some pressure on, but ultimately that quality just shone through in the end. I totally agree with you, Craig, incidentally, is that a highland cow behind you? As my wife, my wife for some reason, lakes these sort of highland coach. We have a pictures garb dotted around the house. They just keep popping up and places. I don't actually know that. I walk into a room and go, oh, another coat. I love it, Craig. Look, I have a little Peruvian one here as well. So we can connect. God, give me your thoughts then on this when obviously a lot of records, but as Craig was saying, at least Poland kind of showed up, at least in the first half, what did you make of this game? Go, I agree with Greg. I think Poland have been really disappointing. In this tournament. And I think they were fortunate to get this far. And it looked like against France, they were up to it. You know, you cut a new, how did you do shops going to play? Did you just jump as fundamentally conservative? And Poland had been too. And so maybe in some ways, by kind of giving them the ball picking your spots, you could put them, you could put them under pressure. And who knows, it might have been a very different game if that kind of almost like triple chance in the space of a few seconds in the first half had gone in. But then as the game wore on, I saw it, France just got better. Obviously in BAPE is extremely difficult to play against. And what I think is interesting in this context, though, as far as I'm up is concerned is I'm not saying he's carrying France because obviously he's got a good supporting cast. But this is different from when he plays for Paris on your mind. You know, he doesn't have Neymar Messi with him. You know, he has Giroux, we can all celebrate his goal scoring instincts, exploits and whatever. But you know, he's more of a worker. This version of Anton Griezmann, more of a worker. Dembele kind of on and off, you don't always know what you're going to get. And so I think in Bobby's really stepping up to the responsibility in a way which, you know, maybe four years ago when he was younger, he didn't need to do. How about y'all, by the way? Sometimes he was turning into recal men in some of these games. He's been playing pretty well. Hey, listen, we're missing Kay Murray, but she asked us a question here, Craig, and gab you jump in, of course. But Greg, something that we wanted to ask about. Did he hit the show? I mean, listen, often more than not, I guess, ever since winning in 2018. He has had his criticism, but fair to say, I mean, how do you think he has done with this squad? Because there's been injuries Karim Benzema isn't here, of course, and he's not the only one. There's been some notable absences for the French national team. How do you think they did to Trump has done throughout this tournament in Qatar? Well, I mean, I think pretty good. I mean, I don't think we can debate whether the chances be great tactician or Mart, there are many good coaches around grit coaches. But he has delivered the 2018 World Cup. He should have really and he had an opportunity to deliver the European Championship and 2016 at that went awry. He kept him on. And they are at the moment, along with Brazil, I suppose. I don't know what the book is to say. But I would imagine depending on Neymar's fitness in terms of who's the favorites and who's not. Listen, it's not. I mean, I suppose in some way Belgium superseded them this year with N gabo know more about the behind the scenes stuff than me and the accuracy of it, but it seemed quite accurate about falling out and the interviewers from de Bruyne and I almost feel that the French could be setting back in the hotel. Slightly peeved going, that's our job. That's your job to fall out. We want to get ahead. We want to follow. We want this. We want parents arguing in this time. This is what Franz do and so in some sense we haven't really had that so far as still time to go. And so the answer your question is clearly not an easy group to handle we've had Benzema coming back in for a period and then obviously it would have been, but he's injured and how that integrated within the squad turf three years ago. So it's a difficult as a difficult bunch to manage and it's not just the players. It's agents and families and so I think he's done more than this job and how can argue if you went in world cups he's not always maybe picked what's perceived as the best players in Giroux would be case in point, but sometimes players that are actually doing a really good job from yeah but do you agree, buddy? What do you think? 100%. I mean, I think when we talk about the injuries we have to kind of modulate this a little bit because obviously we can look at this and say, oh, go to Conte is not there. Well, he really hasn't been there for what the last 18 months for club time for country. Pogba is another one who he had big plans for. But then he really hasn't been fit for the best part of the year either. And so he was kind of prepared I think in the end to do to do without him. Or if I had been here, it would have been a non match fit blog post was played very little. The injury is defensively, I think, I don't want anybody to get injured, but personally, I think they're much better with kunde right back and tail left back than they are with pavard and Lucas Hernandez. Simply because those are more defensive players. Benjamin is the other one who you think of as a big value add.
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"neymar messi" Discussed on ESPN FC
"It's just a different sort of player. As long as he doesn't mess with his freedom, I think it's okay. What's that coming over the hill? It's more quick hits. Yes. We knew you meant this were on their way out of the Champions League, but Jules we didn't think it would come via such a horrendous performance against Benfica. Do not let the fourth three score fool you. Those first 70 minutes were an absolute horror show. Credit Benfica but blame you with. Yeah, completely. Until the case came on for you and kind of salvage the game a little bit towards the end. You in junior, remember the name, former Chelsea star. All of that, but before that, it was a disaster class from Juventus again, Benfica could have easily been 5 one O 6 one Rafa Silva could have had three, four, it was too open, too easy, too much intensity that you could not match. It's worrying again, but we've been since the start of the season. So I don't know where you go from there. They might not even make it to your polygon to be fair, because macabre can PhD can beat them. And then macabi somehow maybe could get something that's been thicker. So time bomb. I literally didn't realize the list of absentees on this one. I think the only one that's really significant in the sense it wasn't there before is Bretman. For a while. But he says that, oh, this is good because, you know, not this is good, but he said, I'm angry and ashamed. But we're here to learn from this. What's he going to learn? Yeah, exactly. He's not good enough anymore. I think he's had a lot of times. There's a lot of opportunities to learn that way. And yeah, some might say that this humiliation that we just explained was not even the worst thing that happened to you on Tuesday because prosecutors accused the club of force accounting and alleged those pay cuts and deferral players took during the pandemic where went really quite big hits. No, so by the way, this is an investigation that's they've been on trial for sporting justice, but this is criminal justice, right? Because Juventus are listed on the stock exchange. So they have certain transparency requirements. The allegation that's being made, which you have denied is that essentially when they had to during COVID when the player said, all right, we're going to give up three months salary, two months salary, whatever it is. That the club said, okay, fine. But we will pay you later, right? You're not really taking a pay cut. And they had some other private funds that they were going to use to pay the players, including supposedly 20 million 2, Cristiano Ronaldo is going to be there's going to be a full investigation that the false accounting inflating player transfer values. I think that's really hard to prove one way or the other. This is a lot easier to prove if it actually happened. And you've just have every right to put their case forward. I just want to say this. If the players came out, during the pandemic, during a time when people were dying when businesses were going bust when the whole world was turned upside down. And they said, yeah, yeah. Okay, we'll take the pay cut, but you're still going to pay us. I hope that public opinion will be as angry at the players. As they are against you, right? Because obviously it's rule breaking and whatever and they'll be punished if found guilty. But that is really, really low. I'm going to pretend to take a pay cut. What are we talking about here? Yes. That's what makes this allegation so serious. And it can't just be you if it was in the dock for this one. If proven is proven, that's true. Showtime at the park de France as the Eminem run right against macabi Haifa. Yes, baby. What a performance. I know it was only my cabbage high fun. But they're not very good. Let's be honest. However, the M and M was on fire and bad pay Neymar, Messi together, gold assist, little buckets. I was so good. It was so good. 'cause soon in the last 16, we would be knocked out as we know. Chelsea got through with group winners, garb after beating Salzburg to one. Did you like the Christian policy shrines telling back partnership? I don't think they deny that. I don't think they enjoyed it. Look, I know, obviously, why you had to do it? James, and blah, blah, blah. Look, I like the fact that he's getting creative and he's getting original with this. I've had Chelsea had periods where they played really well. Although in the end, the difference was this ridiculous goal. Look, this is a work in progress. Chelsea tweeted out like the WWW D D, W just shows that he's an official. And I'm like, I'm sorry, who did you play in that time period? Because other than two games against Milan, me and I played where Chelsea played really well. The only other serious team they played were Manchester United, and they drew at home and did not play well. No, and I'll play the times.
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"neymar messi" Discussed on Men In Blazers
"Like if you work harder than everyone else and work in the right way, then you have a better chance. I enjoyed playing football too. It wasn't like he was making your anything, you know? When I was a kid, I'd never watched any football. I just played. I would watch YouTube videos online, never full games. Didn't start doing that until I moved to Europe. So I didn't have an idea of like the world outside of just where I was playing. Who were we watching on YouTube? Neymar, Messi, and yes to I just love dribbling. When I was younger, yeah, I went through a Neymar phase where I decided I was just going to try to do I was looking for nutmegs every single session and I had to grow out of that eventually. But yeah, I still love that part of the game, you know? It's exciting. It was when you were barely touched by an opponent in San Diego when you flung yourself on the floor and acne. The dad put an arm around you and said, Luca, son, the Neymar face. I think it's time to bring it to an end. No, it's when I went to England and they started kicking me and I thought, yeah, I can't keep doing this, yeah. Oh, England, that's our contribution to will football. We'll kick the name out of you. But the soccer scene in San Diego is vibrant, a mix of thoroughly organized youth clubs and spontaneous pickup games on fields and parks and beaches. Your development progressed greatly when you join that mighty powerhouse, San Diego surf, an organization with a burnished reputation and a history of producing high level players, your national teammate Sebastian Soto, women's star katerina makario among them. This is a serious environment with a true coaching and training ethic, but at what point did soccer become more than an extracurricular activity to you, but something you thought would be the most dominant part of your life for years to come. I would say when I started playing for the national team, which was quite young, I was 12 or 13 going to camps with other guys too, like Christian was there, Haji, Tyler. Another experience was that Nike friendlies, when we were all 15, 14 something like that. We won the tournament. We beat England 5 one. We beat Brazil three zero. And at that point, as a team, that age group really started kind of believing that we were special. We were all going to be professional players and it worked out for a lot of us. It worked out for a lot of us watching you as well, Luca. But you wasted very little time pushing the chips all in on that football career. In 2013, at the ripe young age of 15, you left your life in San Diego, trading the early morning football fields with mist rolling in off the Pacific Ocean and carne asada burritos at Roberto's to join Fulham football's club academy. A wholly different world from the one you knew. Can you talk us through this moment? How did it even come about in the first place? You're on international duty for the U.S. UT when you were scouted, right? That's right, yeah. The first time I went on trial to follow them, I think I was 13. So I went a couple of times to kind of see how it was. And then when I was 15, my choices were to go to residency with the national team in Florida. I decided like, okay, I'm going to take a step back and try to play soccer in college or to try to go pro and go to an academy. I felt good with phone because I'd been there a few times. So I just made this step. You are the child of academics. Deciding to embark essentially on a PhD in world football. How did those conversations go with your parents? It was a bit crazy, you know? I think it's a bit too young to be honest, like 15 to go somewhere by yourself. That's so far away. And it was definitely really hard for me. I think it would have been in hindsight or if I had a kid that wanted to do something similar, better to wait or to go somewhere a little bit closer to home. But in the end, you know, I did learn a lot from it. And I became like a really independent person, which I think is good when you're a player. But it was definitely difficult. There's no denying that. It's now comment for young Americans to head across to Europe to test themselves against the best. But what was going on in your head back then because almost everyone, if they were going pro was headed to MLS, what made 15 year old Luca de la Torre decide, I'm going to walk a different path. What did you see? There that you didn't think you could get here. I would push back against that. I don't think there was a pathway in MLS when I was at age at all. I didn't see any kids that were a few years older than me playing in the MLS. There wasn't any real push from MLS clubs that were interested in signing me. It was all from European clubs. And in Fulham, it was one of the best academies in England at the time that it's a really, really good players and so I benefited a lot from being a part of that system. This English side with the ultimate historic American pedigree. They even have a bar named after bro McBride at craven cottage, which I'm sure was very attractive for any 15 year old, but over there, it is a different culture, one in which the weather couldn't have been more different to San Diego. Off the field. Can you talk about the culture shock you had to navigate?
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"A dressing room. So they will have to seduce him in order to be on the field on Saturday and choose the Wednesday in the champagne. So there is no time to think through and say, well, you know that guy is completely or not. I'm a big star. He's going to have to play me because alongside the guy we think that you have 20 other players who think the same. Or we might think the same. So I think everybody have to be ready for big competition and Potter is going to be the man. And they will have to make sure that they will have to make sure that they work hard to be in the first 11, otherwise they're going to be on the bench. As for the manager though, Shaka, you wonder how long he will be given to try and implement his style and his ideas on this side because we've seen already under this bowly era two. Patience isn't too long. There were temptations to see why he's got 5 years to prove his worth it to the club. But under turbo it's business as usual. We wondered what Chelsea would look like in terms of their approach, given the change of ownership. We knew what it wasn't about Brown victim. We just wondered what direction told bully would take it. And he's been quite clear in that announcement. For me, the sucking of Thomas took a mix makes no sense. Unless you are piling all the failure of Romero kaku on Tuco's doorstep, unless you're adding in the fact that he couldn't get the best of the evil villain. I know it wasn't his signing, but then the easy speculation was he would get the best out of him and clearly didn't. Other than that, it makes absolutely no sense. We've sat here all season and said, Chelsea need a striker. They get one in and in less than 90 minutes. Thomas Tuchel is less than 90 minutes without striker. Thomas Tuchel is only door. So from that football in perspective, it makes it makes absolutely no sense. For Graham Potter, I think it's a good signing. But the one caveat to that is football management is such an inexact science. Just because you are doing brilliantly at Brighton, doesn't mean that you'll do as well. At Chelsea, all the big clubs. But it is the most valuable of proving grounds. That and European action to me. If you can take a club a smaller club and compete in European football, I think that is as clear an indicator as you can get. Of course, Brighton didn't get. And European football, but just the style, the method, the way he did things that at Brighton makes him worthy of at least taking that gamble. And Chelsea have clearly put themselves in a position where they know how to make gamblers. Will it translate? Do you think Stevie, what we've seen from Potter at Brighton, there's no doubt in that he's a talented coach, but is it bad timing for him? It's been a stumbling start and now there's European football thrown into the mix too. But you never get a job like this at the perfect time. You only got a job with this with things are going awfully wrong. And yes, the perfect team for any manager would be at the end of one season. So he can have preseason, but he won't have that. But at the end of the day, I think I said he is today. Thomas Tuchel got the Chelsea job because he was supposedly a great coach. Everybody said he was a difficult guy to get on with. What the importance of Greek coach. We know Graham Potter's a great coach. We know that Graham Potter can win games in the Premier League with the best of them. And we know he's actually a good guy. He's very immutable, and he does get on with people. So yes, if you look at the resume it's a gamble, but it's not really. You're talking about a guy who knows the Premier League inside. This is not a case of gun and getting somebody who's been coaching in Russia or France or wherever. This guy knows the league inside out. He knows the players inside out as well. No, yes, when you train with players, you see things that you don't normally see when you're playing against them. But he knows everything about every single one of them. So why can't he put this team together? He's got the chance. Except managing a superstar ego. It's one thing knowing the Premier League, but then when it comes to managing big egos now, that's going to be a whole different part of it. Well, managing to me manage a big egos is about your own moral compass. What's right in what's wrong. And you should take them to that. And have half half of managing big egos, there's no way you're talking about as far as what's going on in the field. You know, happy player, you know, happy player is not going to cause you problems off the field. So if you can get your job right, which he can and will, I'm sure, then you're not going to have all these other problems. So I think this is a great appointment. And I'm sure he'll do well. Speaking of big egos, we do have a World Cup winner, Frank leboeuf with us. Fred, what do you think of that aspect of things that obviously he's going to be managing much bigger name players now? Yes, of course, but I don't think you have to you have to separate stars and megastars. It's Mbappé Neymar Messi Ronaldo, which I understood that it was very difficult to manage because you really have to build the team around them. I don't think there is that type of player at Chelsea right now. Like I never felt you know when I was in a dressing room that I played with Zola, gulley, violet, and so many others, Dennis wise, they were styles. But I'll tell you when the coach was saying something and they were bad they knew that they were about to put the head down and didn't respond to the coach. So I think with the team I see, I don't see any problem coming from the players towards mister Potter because I think you have players who have to prove everything again. And I have to say that, yes, we live in a world of emergency, but there is also time to build something, especially your relationship, and to make sure the team is better, because right now, again, if the players look at themselves in the mirror, they're not good enough. And I think part of can say that, the first day, it's not good enough for the talent that you have, what you presented to the audience and to the fans is not enough. So everybody with me, we're going to move forward and we're going to work together. And if I have a big star and think he's better than anybody else, he's going to be on the bench because I don't care. I've got 5 years contract. And you're going to listen to me. Speaking of faith and 5 and the number 5, he still 5th favorite with this Chelsea side to finish in the top four, what would success look like to you, Frank? Considering the timing he has
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"One will trust me. No one will come for name in the summer. Messi is different. I think if chubby picks up the phone and say, hey, why don't you come home? And it can happen. This might happen. For Neymar, I don't know who's going to come now and spend the money days on the wages, below the transfer fee or something like that. I use edge and with the form that he has, I think this won't be tricky, but I think everything is pretty open for the manager for the sports director for the president for Neymar for Messi for Kellyanne. I think there's a lot of uncertainty because after what happened and the situation right now to be fair, I think we have to say why it is. It is a mess. Jules saying it looks like messy is going to go back to Barcelona, Louise. Does this make sense? Yeah, I mean, yeah. If you want to go, I'm going to show that everybody's going to be happy to have him back again. I'm not sure if he's going to be available, but in the other hand, guys, to find a place to name, I don't think that is to try to find someone has to find a place to name her. I think the name that needs to find a new challenge, something that actually he enjoyed because in the moment that he doesn't enjoy it, I'm not talking about money. People talks about no money, wages and everything. I think he's not worried about that. He's worried about he wants to fill once again important the feeling was to enjoy playing on a game trying to win more trophies and at the moment you can see that it's not enjoying the face, the body language doesn't look like so hopefully we can see back again the name are we all see for many years because definitely it's a joy to watch and anyone who's seen the Netflix documentary. Now it's all Shaka hislop's fault. Or is it no? That's what it seemed to be. All right, listen, I understand exactly where Louis is seeing, but nima asked for this. Neymar chose to leave Barcelona. He wanted that challenge where he was a focus. He wanted to be the face of the project. A project that has gone disastrously ever since his arrival, despite how much to spend, despite what managers come in, PSG, just on delivering on their promise. And now that dream that he seek told it in that manner turned into nightmare, is instant deal. And I for one don't have many sympathies. It's crazy, isn't it? In BAPE, Neymar Messi, in August we were like, wow. You know, this team's going to dominate. It's going to be must watch. Yeah, it seemed like it was perfect, didn't it? Yeah. But here we are. I think they start to show a few sort of failings earlier in the season. Maybe it's not going to be as perfect because we all saw it. But then again, it's like the Champions League. It's a very, very competitive task itself. You go up against Real Madrid, who've got the richest pedigree I think of any side in its history. So I think if they would have lost that to a, say, like a sport in lesbian or something like that. I think it's a slightly different conversation. Obviously, they blew it. But still, you know, the standard is so high. I think I'm very interested in the point that Frank was making about how there's like a losing culture in that competition within it and getting to the final and winning it is her way to get rid of it because you see the way that they've tried to do it with that front three and it's an incredible front three on paper. But then there's also it's gone blue again. I'm talking about man city. They don't have that star power like that. They have the collective, but they have also not won it. So what's the best formula to find success at that sort of stage? Like, what is it? I don't know. Something must know. Exactly. Well, thank you very much to Joel's just a reminder for more from Joel's and gabb, be sure to check out the latest edition of the podcast, drops on Mondays. They'll be talking about everything that's hit the headlines over the weekend. Hi, this is Brian windhurst. Twice a week on my podcast that he collected. I have conversations about the NBA's top storylines with the league's preeminent analysts and plugged in insiders from encore analysis, all star and postseason awards ballots, the latest trade owners we cover it all. We can find the hoop collective wherever you get your podcast, and it's also now available on ESPN's YouTube channel. Marius wolf skull in the 21st minute proved to be decisive in brussel Dortmund's victory over Bela fell, that closes.
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"The score sheet, but really it wasn't about that. It was about the reception that the team got in particular Neymar and Lionel Messi whistled ahead of the game despite the fact that PSG have a 15 point lead at the top of the table. That is pretty much forgotten, given what happened mid week against around Madrid. For more on this, you'll be on the wrong with us Frank the birth as well. Frank, it really was quite something, wasn't it, to hear Messi whistled in that manner. Yeah, it is. It is especially, I remember when the Messi was welcomed, you know, the game I was at Paris at the park de France when it was absolutely where everybody was behind him and there was very happy they were all very happy to see him coming and signing for partisan Jammeh and in another hand and bapi was almost good at the beginning of the season. Everybody thinking that they wanted to go and let us completely the other way around. But yeah, the players are facing very much unhappy fans with the behavior of the last game. So it's quite normal. It's up to them to return the situation. I would say to the advantageous and do their work today again, it was slow. It was unpassable and people are expecting much more from those players. Joel, if you were there, would you have booed with your PSG ways? I would have hit the louder, Steven. So much you would have heard me from Bristol. I mean, listen, it's not nice. It's not nice to be in the position where whether you're on the page or in the stands where you team just had this collapse in mid week and then you end up with the old trials showing their discontent and the protests. There was tensions before, even before the ra Madrid game. And nice picked over after that after that defeat and the fact that they were not taught the champion physics so of course they were going to protest, we knew they were going to breed and whistled and et cetera. We knew they would be banners and they were banners about asking Leonardo to get sad. Nassau halai fit to get sucked as well. So we knew that they would leave before the end of the first half, for example, an empty day, the two stands as a protest again, so this was this was all planned and we kind of knew it. It's just I think maybe for some people it's surprising, but this happens a lot in Paris and I think in a lot of grants too. What happens next though, Frank, because the problem is there is a very long time until they can redeem themselves. They're going to win the league, they could beat team three four zero every weekend, yet it's only in the Champions League really where their judge properly. So it's going to take a long time, isn't it for these heels to wound? Wounds to heal. Well, I think it will take, I guess, almost a year. Until we go come back to February next season. And see what the geometry is going to do again in the last 16 or the quarterfinal. That's the main concern. You know, everybody is expecting the best. Every time, every year, you see players like Messi coming Neymar and some others, and you say, well, that's maybe this season. And it's always that same thing. There is a very famous Jonathan from the keep today this week, sorry. We say that continuing or losing like that every year brings a culture of loss. And you know, and you can be a club with wind like Real Madrid, you win, you get the silverware and everything. And you becoming a club, which is going to lose every time. And you're going to get that culture, so it's like a curse. You have to get rid of the curse, and the only way to get rid of that is to win your first Champions League. And after that, you would be forgiven and you will start a new cycle, and everything will go well. Yeah, that's a long way off though, isn't it? Luis, obviously, you played with Messi. We were so excited when that move happened in August, just to see how he would link up with Neymar once again, Killian bappe up front. I don't think many could have predicted that march he'd be booed by his own fans. And I wasn't very excited to be honest. And he heard me so much. He was sad actually to see it in part, but literally when you have a look as a play as a guy who likes to see as a football fan, let's call it this way. The like to see nice football, have a look to have the chance of watching play Neymar Messi and babe is a dream come true and I'm sure that that's what the supporters were feeling. But definitely it's not the end of what we expected that in March actually a few months after the supported just to stop doing because one of the games that didn't go, the way that they expected, because I'm sure they're in the first leg, but messy for me was one of the best one on the field with the Maria probably and so it's something that at the end people doesn't understand. You can have a bad game and it happens and then you continue moving forward. But I agree totally with Sebastian that is mentioning about this culture of if you get used to lose every single time at the end is something that is going to happen. And it happened to a little bit for many years until they finally got once again. I write to the template final. I write to the champagne finite editing managed to win it. But in the other side, they were winning the league. And at the end you kind of think and feel that they know they're making, maybe they can arrive to the champions. They find out that at the end they're going to lose it. And that's something that I'm sure the club doesn't want to end the play this year. How does this angels? Sorry, how does this end? I don't know. Today I'm missing that it looks phase anyway. So it was on his face. There was nothing on Neymar's face. You could see the frustration after he's called the goal, you saw the frustration, no celebration, nothing. He was the words because they also insulted him and called him a son of a B and all of that, which they didn't do for Messi and the other players, by the way, because as you said apart from him, I pay everybody else, got booed. It was not targeted at Messi or Neymar. It was targeted at the whole team, so he could have been done Thomas playing Shaka is loved with Garcia from Clifford. You would have been booed as well. It's nothing to do with an individual really. It's a collective after the rabbit defeat. But I don't know if a name on the club is saying, listen, if he wants to go if we get offers, he can go. No.
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"I'm just digging it up now so you can talk. Right, but so the gist of it was the problem is there are city Liverpool and Bayern. And then there are Chelsea sometimes. And then there's 50 feet of crap, and then there's literally everyone else. Right. So you read that and instantly I said, um, I wonder if the team that has won more champion zigs in the last decade or so than anyone else would feel offended by that in Real Madrid. And I wonder now if he, if he would redo that and would include Real Madrid, we're not there yet. No, he wouldn't. And neither would Jamie carraher. He still goes, you know, he said, that's a brilliant performance, yes. Great comeback, amazing venetia's crew, sorry, not Cruz Modric, camavinga, blah, blah, blah, grip performance, great comeback. Still not winning the Champions League. That was his take on it. And I kind of feel we're in this zone again, Andrew. We were here with Leeds United, we were here with Everton. Is a team that good or is the opposition that bad. And I think the Parisian collapse and it doesn't mean that Real Madrid aren't a good side day. They clearly have good players, but the Parisian collapse just overshadows all of it. Where are we in reality when Real Madrid are being painted as an underdog story? Esque project. I mean, I'm sorry, they're coasting to a league title in Spain and they just knocked out PSG with Neymar Messi and Mbappé. Like, they have to be considered a contender. They just have to. They are for me. They're in it. You know what? If they wind up against Byron in the quarterfinals or semis, I'll pick I'll probably pick by the way. But it's not, but I'll think about it. Right, I'm picking city. I think Bayern might be a closer one, and I think Liverpool is potentially a titer one, although I think Liverpool are a better side than Real Madrid right now. And again, we're talking teams. But I just, I don't think, I don't know, maybe you're right. Man, this is exciting. It's a little wrinkled drawn into it. By the way, we shouldn't live our lives completely tied down to what a meme by John Mueller is. You know, we shouldn't, this is not the rules. There can still be outsiders, again, Real Madrid as an outsider is kind of laughable. But there can still be teams that surprise us. I think my views on Real Madrid are ageist, you know, Modric, someone said modest ran ten kilometers. In that game. Which seems a lot for a guy of his what is he 30? 36. That's a lot. Andrew. That's a lot. Well, he's certainly still capable. There's no question about that to put a bow on this, JJ Julian Loren of ESPN FC, who is a PSG supporter. I mean, I remember after they signed messy. He was it seemed like he was ready to throw a parade. And somewhat justifiably so that was a huge moment in the transfer window and in their history. He wrote this following the collapse. He says the season is now over for PSG. They will win, but that is almost a minor detail. They failed to win the trophy, they champions against Lille. They were knocked out of the Coupe de France in the round of 16 by nice, and they were humiliated again, the Champions League at the same stage. This is the worst season the club has endured since Qatar sports investments took over in 2011 and it will be very hard to get over it. They've had a lot of famous defeats PSG. I think I concur with our friend Julian Loren. I don't know if any of them were worse than this. Yeah. And the fact that not winning the title, losing out allele, a much smaller project than PSG is not their worst season, just shows how singularly focused the club really is. And you wonder about what happens now to Mauricio Pacino because I mean, I think the writing's on the wall. No. This is a disaster. What does that mean for, well, he is himself according to the reporting himself and Eric ten hag are the two main frontrunners for the Manchester United job. Does the fact that PSG have failed under Pacino? Quite spectacularly in this case. Mean that united have second thoughts about that calculation. Maybe? Yeah. His reputation. Look, you know what I think of him, but his reputation is going to take a hit here. How much of it is his fault? I don't know. Maybe we'll never know exactly. Everybody will have their own stories, but that's the matter. He's the manager. And this was an unbelievable failure. So yeah, his rap will take a hit. What an enjoyable night though. It was. You have to enjoy that. I should say before we move on to the Premier League Manchester City advanced. There was no drama there, so we continue now. So before we get to Ian Wright, we just, when I did the rundown the other day, I was like, okay, we got some Thursday action. A lot of implications in the relegation race. And I was getting into it. And then the Abramovich news and the Chelsea news broke and I hate to say this because a lot of important stuff did go on yesterday, but my head was turned, man. All I could really do was consume the Chelsea stuff. I was so it's just potentially such a landmark moment in that club's history, which is now because of what they mean to the Premier League. It's kind of a landmark moment almost in the Premier League history for this to happen. And the flux that it leads them in, fortunately, JJ, because we like sports, you and I, but this is this Abramovich Chelsea story. It's kind of, it's kind of like almost where finance and politics collide more so than having almost anything to do with sports. So thankfully there were a lot of explainers that were sent out yesterday to kind of let people know, okay, here's what this might mean. For Chelsea from a footballing standpoint. So I guess I have kind of the cliffs note, the cliff notes here in front of me to clue people in on what some of the ramifications are going to be. So like we said, the UK government, they've frozen Roman Roman Abramovich's assets, and like we said, one of those assets, of course, is Chelsea. Those with season tickets or those who bought tickets to a match prior to March 10th, can still attend. But as of now, that's it. No new tickets are being sold. Players and staff will continue to be paid, but the club can not conduct any new business. No signings, no transfers. So once again, Chelsea, for the second time in three or four years, Chelsea facing a transfer ban. But off their own making again. Yes, but of equal importance almost JJ, they can not resign their players whose contracts are due to expire. As pole Quetta, Christensen, and maybe most importantly, I mean, I know as public means a lot to that club for how long he's been there. Antonio Rüdiger, JJ, whose contract has been the source of a lot of conversation for this entire season. Are they going to extend him? Is it going to run out? Well, now they don't have a choice. It's going to run out. That's really important. It's still unclear at this moment. What exactly this means for their participation in Europe? It's still unclear what this means in terms of tickets sold as they progress in the FA Cup. I mean, if they're at Wembley JJ, is there going to be like half the stadium empty? Who's going to be sitting in those seats? They can't sell tickets. They're have suspended their partnership with Chelsea, which from a aesthetic standpoint might actually be a good thing because I was never on board with the three. However, from a financial standpoint, it's a disaster. That was 40 million pounds per year. Gone. Poof. I don't know, this makes their transfer Ben from a couple of years ago. Look like child's play. I don't know what this means for their future right now. Well, I was listening to Felipe or clear the eminent football journalist in bolt France and London and he spoke this morning on off the ball and his view of it is..
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"I'm just digging it up now so you can talk. Right, but so the gist of it was the problem is there are city Liverpool and Bayern. And then there are Chelsea sometimes. And then there's 50 feet of crap, and then there's literally everyone else. Right. So you read that and instantly I said, um, I wonder if the team that has won more champion zigs in the last decade or so than anyone else would feel offended by that in Real Madrid. And I wonder now if he, if he would redo that and would include Real Madrid, we're not there yet. No, he wouldn't. And neither would Jamie carraher. He still goes, you know, he said, that's a brilliant performance, yes. Great comeback, amazing venetia's crew, sorry, not Cruz Modric, camavinga, blah, blah, blah, grip performance, great comeback. Still not winning the Champions League. That was his take on it. And I kind of feel we're in this zone again, Andrew. We were here with Leeds United, we were here with Everton. Is a team that good or is the opposition that bad. And I think the Parisian collapse and it doesn't mean that Real Madrid aren't a good side day. They clearly have good players, but the Parisian collapse just overshadows all of it. Where are we in reality when Real Madrid are being painted as an underdog story? Esque project. I mean, I'm sorry, they're coasting to a league title in Spain and they just knocked out PSG with Neymar Messi and Mbappé. Like, they have to be considered a contender. They just have to. They are for me. They're in it. You know what? If they wind up against Byron in the quarterfinals or semis, I'll pick I'll probably pick by the way. But it's not, but I'll think about it. Right, I'm picking city. I think Bayern might be a closer one, and I think Liverpool is potentially a titer one, although I think Liverpool are a better side than Real Madrid right now. And again, we're talking teams. But I just, I don't think, I don't know, maybe you're right. Man, this is exciting. It's a little wrinkled drawn into it. By the way, we shouldn't live our lives completely tied down to what a meme by John Mueller is. You know, we shouldn't, this is not the rules. There can still be outsiders, again, Real Madrid as an outsider is kind of laughable. But there can still be teams that surprise us. I think my views on Real Madrid are ageist, you know, Modric, someone said modest ran ten kilometers. In that game. Which seems a lot for a guy of his what is he 30? 36. That's a lot. Andrew. That's a lot. Well, he's certainly still capable. There's no question about that to put a bow on this, JJ Julian Loren of ESPN FC, who is a PSG supporter. I mean, I remember after they signed messy. He was it seemed like he was ready to throw a parade. And somewhat justifiably so that was a huge moment in the transfer window and in their history. He wrote this following the collapse. He says the season is now over for PSG. They will win, but that is almost a minor detail. They failed to win the trophy, they champions against Lille. They were knocked out of the Coupe de France in the round of 16 by nice, and they were humiliated again, the Champions League at the same stage. This is the worst season the club has endured since Qatar sports investments took over in 2011 and it will be very hard to get over it. They've had a lot of famous defeats PSG. I think I concur with our friend Julian Loren. I don't know if any of them were worse than this. Yeah. And the fact that not winning the title, losing out allele, a much smaller project than PSG is not their worst season, just shows how singularly focused the club really is. And you wonder about what happens now to Mauricio Pacino because I mean, I think the writing's on the wall. No. This is a disaster. What does that mean for, well, he is himself according to the reporting himself and Eric ten hag are the two main frontrunners for the Manchester United job. Does the fact that PSG have failed under Pacino? Quite spectacularly in this case. Mean that united have second thoughts about that calculation. Maybe? Yeah. His reputation. Look, you know what I think of him, but his reputation is going to take a hit here. How much of it is his fault? I don't know. Maybe we'll never know exactly. Everybody will have their own stories, but that's the matter. He's the manager. And this was an unbelievable failure. So yeah, his rap will take a hit. What an enjoyable night though. It was. You have to enjoy that. I should say before we move on to the Premier League Manchester City advanced. There was no drama there, so we continue now. So before we get to Ian Wright, we just, when I did the rundown the other day, I was like, okay, we got some Thursday action. A lot of implications in the relegation race. And I was getting into it. And then the Abramovich news and the Chelsea news broke and I hate to say this because a lot of important stuff did go on yesterday, but my head was turned, man. All I could really do was consume the Chelsea stuff. I was so it's just potentially such a landmark moment in that club's history, which is now because of what they mean to the Premier League. It's kind of a landmark moment almost in the Premier League history for this to happen. And the flux that it leads them in, fortunately, JJ, because we like sports, you and I, but this is this Abramovich Chelsea story. It's kind of, it's kind of like almost where finance and politics collide more so than having almost anything to do with sports. So thankfully there were a lot of explainers that were sent out yesterday to kind of let people know, okay, here's what this might mean. For Chelsea from a footballing standpoint. So I guess I have kind of the cliffs note, the cliff notes here in front of me to clue people in on what some of the ramifications are going to be. So like we said, the UK government, they've frozen Roman Roman Abramovich's assets, and like we said, one of those assets, of course, is Chelsea. Those with season tickets or those who bought tickets to a match prior to March 10th, can still attend. But as of now, that's it. No new tickets are being sold. Players and staff will continue to be paid, but the club can not conduct any new business. No signings, no transfers. So once again, Chelsea, for the second time in three or four years, Chelsea facing a transfer ban. But off their own making again. Yes, but of equal importance almost JJ, they can not resign their players whose contracts are due to expire. As pole Quetta, Christensen, and maybe most importantly, I mean, I know as public means a lot to that club for how long he's been there. Antonio Rüdiger, JJ, whose contract has been the source of a lot of conversation for this entire season. Are they going to extend him? Is it going to run out? Well, now they don't have a choice. It's going to run out. That's really important. It's still unclear at this moment. What exactly this means for their participation in Europe? It's still unclear what this means in terms of tickets sold as they progress in the FA Cup. I mean, if they're at Wembley JJ, is there going to be like half the stadium empty? Who's going to be sitting in those seats? They can't sell tickets. They're have suspended their partnership with Chelsea, which from a aesthetic standpoint might actually be a good thing because I was never on board with the three. However, from a financial standpoint, it's a disaster. That was 40 million pounds per year. Gone. Poof. I don't know, this makes their transfer Ben from a couple of years ago. Look like child's play. I don't know what this means for their future right now. Well, I was listening to Felipe or clear the eminent football journalist in bolt France and London and he spoke this morning on off the ball and his view of it is..
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"neymar messi" Discussed on ESPN FC
"Stood out then, but he was more, he still explores it, but he was way more as a youthful player, which is probably stands the reason. He was much more explosive. I think he's much more subtle now. I think he's just become a better finisher. And we often talk about, you know, strikers, there's a new era of striker where maybe the FSG model of, well, these hit 30 got to get rid of him, can't give him a new contract. If you look at those strikers that we've talked about, Ronaldo less or no, definitely in decline, but Lewandowski. Yeah, but Renato's also what 36? Yeah, right. If you're talking about 30 as the cutoff, you had a pretty good run after that. I would say. I'm not arguing that at all. But Benzema is in that category now of a guy where I don't care that he's 34. There aren't a bit many better finishers in the world than him right now. No, he just became the oldest player ever to register a hat trick in the Champions League. There's no sign of slowing down here. It feels like we're seeing the best version of him now. Speaking of slope in the space to do it. Speaking of slowing down, Luka Modrić, there was a moment in the second half that they're almost always in these high level games where there's something that sticks in your brain and it just encapsulates the difference between the two sides. And it's messy in a rare foray down the right hand side. Bursting away down the sideline and tracking him, relentlessly. Like a Croatian terminator. It's Lucca magic. Slides in, sliding tackle. What's Luka magic is not noted for these things. But the desire and the passion to get back and he whips the ball away and sends messy flying as well. And Ancelotti just nodding just nodding and satisfaction in the background. Wow. That was a moment for me. So let's go to the PSG side of it now. And you know, I think it's not an image that any of us got to see, but for me, the indelible image of this is what I picture in my head, the aftermath of this game, because you can just, you can sometimes get a sense of where a team is at mentally with sort of how they carry themselves in the immediacy of after a let down like this. And you mentioned JJ, they got trying to allegedly storm into the officials dressing room and pochettino. I raised crying. And then, meanwhile, that's going on because they're mad at foul wasn't called. But the guy who was involved in the play Donna Roma is in the locker room. Now, depending on what you read, potentially physically involved enough altercation with Neymar over that play and then done aroma is yelling at Neymar about his mistake after that. I mean, this is, this is just like an unbelievable meltdown on all levels. We should that we should be fair that the latest reports from both sides from the name are and the donner room camps is that that didn't happen at all and that was made up. Now, the fact that we'd even believe it would happen speaks to the nature of this squad and set up. I always felt it was too top heavy Andrew but, you know, there's part to me, I'm still a dreamer. I still believe that, you know, maybe in modern soccer where positional, we're building a team and building a team that functions as a whole is still important. But it is the most important thing. I still believe maybe if you just front load your team with the best players in the world, you can get through. It's going to be fine. You're right, but the only thing about that is yes, they and BAPE Neymar Messi up front on paper is it's obscene. But like, yeah, okay, it's front heavy because of how ridiculous they are, but it's not like there were bad players behind them. They went out and got done aroma on a free transfer after coming off of his player the tournament performance at the Euros. We talked about variety how highly we think of him in midfield, defensively. Marquinhos has been excellent for them. They went out and got hakimi. They weren't weak after that front three. They were, they were unbelievable up front and then really good behind them. I guess it's hard to figure out. I guess you can't do it. Part of it is you can't have two, three guys who are just not going to contribute on the other side of the ball anymore in the game. You just can't. And the second part of it is and it's apparent I would agree with you on. It wasn't just them that fell apart. It was those other players. It was what you would call the spine of the team, and it starts with Donna room, goes through the center box, but by the way, Hakeem hardly covered themselves in glory either. You know? Positionally, he wasn't great. And he's never okay, I don't know. I've never quite rated him as a defender. I always think he's better on that other side of the ball. But yeah, it wasn't just the front three. This is like a contagion that spread throughout the site. But they shouldn't, like as a unit, and that's I guess what they're not. Nor football team should fall apart Andrew and the manner that they did after conceding a goal. They just should not. No, of course not, but this is, this is kind of now woven into the PSG DNA. In the last decade, they've blown four first leg leads. No one has blown more in that time. Bars are next with three, which by the way means messy alone has four to his name..
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"Stood out then, but he was more, he still explores it, but he was way more as a youthful player, which is probably stands the reason. He was much more explosive. I think he's much more subtle now. I think he's just become a better finisher. And we often talk about, you know, strikers, there's a new era of striker where maybe the FSG model of, well, these hit 30 got to get rid of him, can't give him a new contract. If you look at those strikers that we've talked about, Ronaldo less or no, definitely in decline, but Lewandowski. Yeah, but Renato's also what 36? Yeah, right. If you're talking about 30 as the cutoff, you had a pretty good run after that. I would say. I'm not arguing that at all. But Benzema is in that category now of a guy where I don't care that he's 34. There aren't a bit many better finishers in the world than him right now. No, he just became the oldest player ever to register a hat trick in the Champions League. There's no sign of slowing down here. It feels like we're seeing the best version of him now. Speaking of slope in the space to do it. Speaking of slowing down, Luka Modrić, there was a moment in the second half that they're almost always in these high level games where there's something that sticks in your brain and it just encapsulates the difference between the two sides. And it's messy in a rare foray down the right hand side. Bursting away down the sideline and tracking him, relentlessly. Like a Croatian terminator. It's Lucca magic. Slides in, sliding tackle. What's Luka magic is not noted for these things. But the desire and the passion to get back and he whips the ball away and sends messy flying as well. And Ancelotti just nodding just nodding and satisfaction in the background. Wow. That was a moment for me. So let's go to the PSG side of it now. And you know, I think it's not an image that any of us got to see, but for me, the indelible image of this is what I picture in my head, the aftermath of this game, because you can just, you can sometimes get a sense of where a team is at mentally with sort of how they carry themselves in the immediacy of after a let down like this. And you mentioned JJ, they got trying to allegedly storm into the officials dressing room and pochettino. I raised crying. And then, meanwhile, that's going on because they're mad at foul wasn't called. But the guy who was involved in the play Donna Roma is in the locker room. Now, depending on what you read, potentially physically involved enough altercation with Neymar over that play and then done aroma is yelling at Neymar about his mistake after that. I mean, this is, this is just like an unbelievable meltdown on all levels. We should that we should be fair that the latest reports from both sides from the name are and the donner room camps is that that didn't happen at all and that was made up. Now, the fact that we'd even believe it would happen speaks to the nature of this squad and set up. I always felt it was too top heavy Andrew but, you know, there's part to me, I'm still a dreamer. I still believe that, you know, maybe in modern soccer where positional, we're building a team and building a team that functions as a whole is still important. But it is the most important thing. I still believe maybe if you just front load your team with the best players in the world, you can get through. It's going to be fine. You're right, but the only thing about that is yes, they and BAPE Neymar Messi up front on paper is it's obscene. But like, yeah, okay, it's front heavy because of how ridiculous they are, but it's not like there were bad players behind them. They went out and got done aroma on a free transfer after coming off of his player the tournament performance at the Euros. We talked about variety how highly we think of him in midfield, defensively. Marquinhos has been excellent for them. They went out and got hakimi. They weren't weak after that front three. They were, they were unbelievable up front and then really good behind them. I guess it's hard to figure out. I guess you can't do it. Part of it is you can't have two, three guys who are just not going to contribute on the other side of the ball anymore in the game. You just can't. And the second part of it is and it's apparent I would agree with you on. It wasn't just them that fell apart. It was those other players. It was what you would call the spine of the team, and it starts with Donna room, goes through the center box, but by the way, Hakeem hardly covered themselves in glory either. You know? Positionally, he wasn't great. And he's never okay, I don't know. I've never quite rated him as a defender. I always think he's better on that other side of the ball. But yeah, it wasn't just the front three. This is like a contagion that spread throughout the site. But they shouldn't, like as a unit, and that's I guess what they're not. Nor football team should fall apart Andrew and the manner that they did after conceding a goal. They just should not. No, of course not, but this is, this is kind of now woven into the PSG DNA. In the last decade, they've blown four first leg leads. No one has blown more in that time. Bars are next with three, which by the way means messy alone has four to his name..
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"neymar messi" Discussed on ESPN FC
"And obviously, Messi got going late in the season, and then Neymar had his injury. I think sometimes people have made the point that, well, you know, when you've got three superstars, you have to accommodate them. But there's times when they all need to work and work together. Python man hasn't been asked to do that. Very often this season. And they failed to do that. Many times this season. And I think if it's not there in your DNA, you don't have to turn it on every single game. You don't have to be Manchester City where they all run around. And run them something around. But you have to be able to do it occasionally. And that, I think, is something that pochettino has not been able to instill. And I might suggest that part of it is to do with the fact that what made pochettino great manager. Look, I'm a massive butcher Geno fan. Not just because there's a small resemblance between him and enchilada. It's not just that. In fact, you could see future pochettino looking a little bit. But no, it's just the fact that I think what he did at spurs was tremendous. Whatever failures eventually happened in those circumstances, you know, let's think about who came after him at spurs and how they did often with more money. And I'm not just talking about marine and talking about content as well. But what made him great at Southampton and a Tottenham was a certain way of playing that was predicated upon blue collar work essay on quick movements on pressing. Hong Leon son and Harry Kane may be superstars, although probably not of the magnitude of Neymar Messi and Zimbabwe. But they put on their hard hat and they said, and we're going to be warriors in the trenches. We're going to work like this. When he arrived at Paris Saint-Germain, he realized perhaps correctly that he couldn't ask them to work that way. And so he was asked to do a job that was completely different to him. This is completely alien. He has shown that he is the Galactica whisperer. He can have the galacticos. You can keep them happy. He can get them to work when they need to work. Pep Guardiola as well, certainly a Barcelona. People say, oh, I mean, lastly, I think somebody said, oh, but messy and Neymar are superstars, you can't get them to work. Well, Pep Guardiola, when you correct, I don't know. I Barcelona sorry, they were working together. If pep had been there, I'm pretty sure they would have completely. But you have to have that is a skill as a manager to be able to integrate the superstar into the rest of the team and be able to have a certain way. He hasn't had to do. Doesn't have that skill, but maybe because he never worked with superstars before. And maybe because superstars with sat mindset. I mean, Harry came to me as a superstar. But he has a different mindset. But he was in a superstar when pods arrived, but he became one. And maybe this is the dressing line is difficult. I think it is difficult. It's a club that is not easy to manage. Yeah, I give him that. And he's not the only one to blame. But he's been there a year and a month and something. It's not good enough. I'm sorry, it's not good enough. It might not just be his Ford. But Gabby's just not good enough where we saw on the page what we see of the page. And I don't think I'm outing you here. How much blame do you place on Leo and Nasser? Because it was Leonardo who put this team together. And it was Nasser who sanctioned this approach. And I think they have to be blamed. I don't even think they should last the season. Leo and Nasser. Yeah. I don't think it's not going to do. But the ownership can replace master. President, of course, they can. Of course, they can not. Wow, I thought I hadn't crossed my mind. Oh, let me be less involved. Because he was very angry after the game. There were all sorts of unconfirmed reports in the Spanish press. So I don't for legal reasons. I don't want to go into it. She told me that he wanted to have a chat with the referees. Right. Which is never a good sign. Never a good idea. It's especially, I think, puts him in a bad position because he's a member. And look, I'm not picking on him. He did the same thing back after when they were knocked out against Real Madrid, was it? When they had the last minute penalty and Buffon got sent off and. You remember if you Avis, UEFA's executive committee, you're the president of the European club association. You have this institutional role. You can not ask to go and speak to the referee after. What are you going to tell him? I know. Send somebody else to do it. Said Leo to do it. Where was Leo? He was there. Before the game, he was all like this with his hands up. He always does. He was smiling. He was not smiling at the end, but this is also his failure. He can not sell to this, I mean, this quarter, as we said before, it's an unbalanced squad. It's a dysfunctional squad. I think it's a different club in many respects to as much as I love them. And I think NASA is partly to blame there's too many influences, two different streams that go against each other. There are too many people involved. And I just don't think that's why as well. Those problems keep coming up because some things don't change. When they should change and for me, NASA should change Leonardo should change, the manager will change because it puts it in he's not going to be the next season. But then in the squad, what do you do with a squad? What do you do with a squad? You've got Neymar until 2026 potentially. 2025 the contract with an extra year in option that you can trigger by himself pretty much..
Bloomberg Radio New York
"neymar messi" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"World Here's Dan Schwartzman Thanks Brian Barry Munich is stunned home for the first time in 21 years by Frankfurt two to one as Philippe custard scores a winner in the 83rd minute while in league at one Paris Saint-Germain is shocked by state on a two nil even with Neymar Messi and bap in the lineup Meanwhile in the Premier League Manchester City salvaging a point is Kevin to point his scores in the 81st minute to help city to a two all draw Liverpool at Anfield The reds stay one point ahead of city for second place in the Premier League table one point behind Chelsea Big week for Sunday the NFL season both the New York Jets and giants winning the first games of the year and overtime giants over the saints 27 to 21 jets beating the Titans 27 to 24 Elsewhere the Washington football team outlasting the falcons 34 to 30 while the cowboys get past the Carolina Panthers 36 to 28 Finally Patrick Mahomes throws for 5 touchdowns of the chief speech eagles 42 to 30 Big Sunday Night football match at foxboro Tom Brady facing his old team the Patriots as the 44 year old leads the defending Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers Brady just 68 yards shy of passing Drew Brees for the most career yards thrown in history It was a final day of the Major League Baseball season giants clinching the NOS over the Dodgers by one game while the Dodgers and Cardinals lock up the NL wildcard spots In the American League the Yankees and Red Sox both win the wild card births but a Sox hosting the Yankees Tuesday in the wild card game I'm Dan Schwartzman that your Bloomberg world sports hot day Markets headlines and breaking news 24 hours a day At Bloomberg dot com the Bloomberg business app and at Bloomberg quick take This is a Bloomberg business flash Hi everybody 13 minutes before the top of the hour and we update markets for you every 15 minutes Well it seemed also promising when we started off the show three and a half hours ago all the futures were higher for the day but we're starting to see some selling across the region now The nikkei is down about 1% The Hanks index is off 1.7% Right around a 15% sell off in a month or rather in the last quarter for the hanxing index much has been made of how much selling has happened in the tech sphere but also in property And have a grand is suspended today and also its management company property management firm listed in Hong Kong and the hang tsang tech index is off 1.2% As our mark cranfield points out though in our markets live blog that most times when you see a double digit loss the Hanks in index has rebounded in the next quarter There wasn't exception recently.
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"neymar messi" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
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