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"new york court appeals" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"Responsibilities, which doesn't make sense because there's plenty of right spares in New York that do not and are incapable of very rights due to some responsibilities, children, mentally and capacitated dolls, et cetera. So what New York voters yeah, exactly. Intermediate court had basically said something that was so blatantly wrong and we couldn't get it corrected that time around. We did get we did appeal it, and they didn't take our case. And we finally, on one of our appeals, we got a really good descent who a judge fehi of the New York court appeals. And he basically had also said, this is worth hearing the next time it comes to us. Well, that's great. So let me ask you a question that I assiduously did not ask when you were on to talk about the bladensburg cross case. Because it's, you know, it's all of us in that area sort of have to come on and put on the best spin for a Supreme Court that's been unremittingly hostile to the notion of separation of church and state. This seems like so a, you know, it's a depoliticized territory, I think. And B, you know, it's the New York's highest court. So, you know, we're not we don't need to talk about what Amy Coney Barrett Brett Kavanaugh think about it. How do you rate your chances? What do you think's gonna happen? Yeah, it's interesting. It is nice and refreshing to not be having to wonder what Amy and Bret are going to be doing. I don't know. And honestly, we've this being in this area and then also being in the church state separation area, which feels more predictable in a way. Like you get a Trump judge, very unlikely to win. But here, it's not political. We've had rural New York judges that maybe even hunt, but also love like chimpanzees. One of our first judges was conservative. I think we figured that out from his voting or something. But he loved chimpanzees. And when the lawyers that were filing the original case walked into the office, we have this on the documentary. It was like, he had all these trash keys that were like chimpanzee, specific. We're like, well, this is good. This is promising. Yeah. And so, you know, I can not tell you. It's really, everyone that has on both sides of the political aisle have different views on personhood and animals. And it's not enough to know what their political background is. You know, if they're not even enough to know if they love dogs and cats, a lot of people love pets and don't care about personhood for other animals or personhood at all. So yeah. I feel like there's got to be a little bit of correlation, you know? The asshole Trump sons were the ones posing with the pictures of hunting probably some of these very same animals. Yeah, you can sometimes you can make some assumptions, but we were in the first department, which is considered we would think we thought it was going to be the most progressive core in New York because it was the one face in Manhattan. And we were pretty shocked at how rudimentary some of their questions were about this. Whereas we had more advanced and serious conversations with judges that were not as advanced career wise. So yeah, I feel like the only area where you're like, yes, we got a kangaroo court. Awesome. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's my one dad joke for the year. It's true though. And yeah, we're really, I'm optimistic. I mean, it would be a big humongous victory and we're asking for a leap here. But I don't think the court would take the case if it wasn't prepared to at least consider potentially ruling in our favor also would just affirm. Yeah, that's an excellent point. Just thinking about the other side, right? The Bronx zoo side. Whenever you've won and the Supreme Court, the next appellate court, assert court decides this is a case worth hearing. And you're like, well, you probably didn't do that to pat us on the back and congratulate us on what a fantastic. Exactly. Exactly. I have to ask you because we got this question a dozen times via email after expressing some sympathy for non human personhood on an episode 5 38. So I'll ask it of you. Would you have concerns that establishing personhood for non human animals would create the kind of legal precedent and record that could then be turned around and used to try and establish personhood for fetuses and really crack down on reproductive in women's rights? You don't know. I think those are already on their own path right now unfortunately, regardless of what we want. But I don't think that there's a correlation. I think partially because the science. The science, if you just look at the science of a human, that makes that makes our argument so much more compelling if you want to compare human clump of cells. I don't even say human. A clump of cells with an elephant with a chimpanzee where we've got science showing that they're self aware that they're planning for the next day that they're aware of their future. They're aware of their past. They can make gestures and communicate with one another versus a clump of cells. So our arguments with autonomy really do turn a lot on science and at least ask the court to consider the science because it makes the injustice that much more apparent. I totally agree. I was going to say the same thing. I think if anything cuts the other way. I mean, so many of these cases, it's like, look at what this animal can do that the city had baby can't do. I say that in modern two beautiful children. Yeah. But when they are, you know, when they're infants, they care, they don't, there's nothing there. They're not really even people for months. And by a certain definition if you're trying to look at some of these criteria. Yeah. Yeah, well, and obviously I'm setting up a devil's advocacy argument there. I would add that the relief that you're seeking here in terms of habeas corpus relief. Like, I would be happy to replicate that over for, you know, for fetus, right? Like the right to be extracted and let alone. Yeah. You know, that's a very good point too because that in turn by recognizing the personhood of the fetus will bring on a lot of questions about the welfare of that. It's just so bizarre to me. It's so the clump of cells you know, I've got to say, while we're spit balling strategy here, have you considered trying to have someone pass a law that elephants can't carry guns? And then use that to get conservative. Oh, they can. They can carry guns. There are many person. There's days where I sometimes think of about weird stuff like that. I'm like, it might be easier to get an elephant's right to carry off. In fact, we almost working with another country with an African country about getting passports for some chimpanzees that would recognize their personhood. And there's some sort of sometimes there's like practical things where being recognized as an individual that has inherent worth and dignity like kind of makes sense. But yes, a 100%, I think in Florida, it would be easier to get an elephant, the right to bear arms than the right to free them. Unfortunately. Well, I guess, I guess we can't have any segment that doesn't end with the institutional corruption courts in America by right wing ideologues. Monica, anything else that you really wanna add about the case that we haven't covered that the folks should know about? I think I've covered everything. I mean, I just, I would reiterate a gun that, you know, it's not. It's not a welfare case. It's a rights case. And that we are the only organization solely dedicated to seeking actual animal rights versus welfare..
"new york court appeals" Discussed on 77WABC Radio
"Within three hours. It was completely cleaned up. And you know who goes out there? DOTC Department of Transportation, your tax dollars your tax dollars painted it Your tax dollars. Clean it up. And then when deBlasio has been asked. Well, what about occupy City Hall? Why aren't you? You know what do you think about that? Why aren't you doing anything about it? He's a first aid. He throws Shay onto the bus, the police commissioner and says, Well, they said they have it under control. Thes people have a rights of free speech, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatever. So you know the city's a mess. The city's a mess. Anywhere you go. You're seeing a lot of homeless people. Everywhere. That's part of the reason NYPD. They're homeless Outreach has been disbanded. Plainclothes cops 600 of them. That's been disbanded all of this because it's a blouse. You just wants to paint black lives matter. Everywhere he goes. But give me a call 1 808 for a W A B c. We've got Andy be from Staten Island. Handy. Area it on me. Yeah, right. You're singing that because according to the L a times they want to replace the Star Spangled Banner with lean on me. Hey, you had curd is singing group home choruses. Great Show. Thank you so much. So what do you think about the fact that downtown city hall covered with graffiti and then? Meanwhile, within a few hours, he cleans it up. How did they won? They give to blast you would take you to arrest him? I saw about their painting. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, right? I don't know. He's he's above it all. He's above it all. And he's in that Shea is escape boat. That's what I think. I found somebody you could say. I don't look at me. These pointed at him. Yeah, exactly. And shades just kind of crunching the numbers and he's letting his guys down. I'm more disappointed in Chez. Then I am anybody else at this point, and Monahan? He's turning out to be no good. But you didn't. You've been doing all the reporting on all the drink, you know? Yeah. There you have it. And I think Curtis is going out there tonight in a story A so we shall see what will happen with with that. Curtis's and drink himself. But he's going out there to be on the on the street and see everything for for himself. Let's go sing. Lydia. Yeah, Lidio a lean on me. Maybe that's what the cops are going to do today. The violence interrupters, But thank you, Andy for calling in So, speaking of Monohan, if you remember Earlier this week on Wednesday was a Wednesday I think, Or maybe it was too. It was earlier this week, and this is insane. So remember there was that peace march the anti violence clergy. They were singing gospel hymns as they cross the Brooklyn Bridge and everything. And then, of course, there was a mysterious mysterious delivery of bats. Oh, that was dropped off for the black lives matter. Protestors and eight cops were attacked. Three of them. There's like graphic pictures of it that you can also see at WNBC radio dot com and Twitter and all that. And one of those cops I was punched in the face was Chief Monohan. He is the top uniformed cop. He's been a cop for 38 years, OK, and the one of his top lieutenants was also bashed and he got eights eight staples to his head. Orbital sockets fractured orbital sockets. That's their eyes as eye sockets. A fractured I mean, he lost consciousness. I mean, these guys were these cops were brutally beaten and bloody. And one of the guys accused in this bloody attack. Koran Campbell, 25 years old. He was released. On a supervised release and the other guy he's being held on assault and criminal possession charges. He's being held on a $10,000 bail, so all he has to pay is $1000. And then on top of that, If you saw the video, these cops were another cops. They got bashed over the head with a cane and this woman they captured her and they only captured because she attacked another cop the next day. And she was released on $750. So she bashed three cops over the head with a cane. These I mean, it's these air like They could have been deadly attacks. They could have been deadly attacks and 11 was released without bail, Another $750 another one's being held on $1000 bail. So when's Blasio's asked about this? Monahan's asked about this German Shea, the police commissioner's asked about it. Guess what they're blaming, they said. It's the court system. That's what they're saying. They're saying it's the courts. They're saying it's because of the lag. The courts are closed The corona virus, blah, blah, blah. Guess what The courts are open. Suspects can still be arraigned, so it's B s and then fighting back. I love so this is this is what de Blasio said during Thursday's press briefing. He said. We need to have I'm imploring everyone at the Office of Court Administration, please. We need our court system to run again. We needed to be open next month. It's fully humanly possible. We Oh, it's where communities and we owe it to our police officers to restart the courses, um as vigorously as possible and as quickly as possible. So we can keep our community safe. Oh, my God. So he's blaming the court system right? Meanwhile, it's his. It's his and Cuomo's bail reform that's basically made everything a misdemeanor. Nothing a felony. That's that's number one with the big problem is, and he's also not only have the the city officials have handcuff the cop, they've handcuffed the judges. The judge is air half the they're following the law there. The judges. Okay, So the state judge, a New York court appeals chief Judge, Janet de Fiori. She penned a letter to Mayor Bill de Blasio. I love her. I love her already. I love her and she said. I want to correct the numerous inaccuracies you levied against the court system in your public statements at today's press conference. And she she said, basically that it is ah You know, it's it's give me a break. Give me a break, she says. It's it's there's, she said, although we share your goals for a safer and stronger city. Your plea for AH functioning open court system Holy ignores the reality. That the courts have not on Ly always remained open but have excelled and adapted in ways that were unimaginable on ly a few months ago, we will continue to do so to serve justice and promote the common good for the people of this state and city and would appreciate your correcting The inaccurate record you made today and getting the facts straight going forward. New Yorkers expect and deserve nothing less. That's just part of the two page letter She wrote to him. Good for you, Girl. Yeah, but commands a book. He's straight up lying. He's straight up lying. De Blasio even said that he's proud of the fact that the prisons are haven't been this empty since World War two and then he lies and says the city has never been safer. And I looked at the cops that statistics those air the data that you can look online to see what the Crime is up 200 something percent, 200 something percent and arrests are down 70 something percent. It's it's I feel like I'm in bizarro world. I'm sure all of you two are like what is going on. What is this? Why is this happening? And I don't know. I don't know what to do at this point both. Let's go toe John from Hell's Kitchen. Good afternoon, Olivia. Hi, John. How are you? This is your friend John from house Could Yes. Yes, I know. You're feeling better. And you call during the week. Thank goodness you got the antibodies, right? No more Cove. It I got the antibodies tested negative and So far so good. Thank God. I gotta tell you, Olivia. I know you're Albanian Irish girl from Bainbridge Avenue. We've talked about that. I think you're wonderful. I'm 64 years old, and I'm seeing things that I've never seen before. In New York City. I came out of my apartment yesterday. How long have you been living in New York City? First, my whole life right for your whole life, okay? I came out of my apartment yesterday 10 in the morning. Out in.