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Here we go again? More problems with hotel quarantine

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05:08 min | 8 hrs ago

Here we go again? More problems with hotel quarantine

"I'm health reported teigen. Tayla journalists dr norman swan. It's friday the fourth of december and norman. Just as we felt like we were getting on top of the south australian outbreak and everything was coming towards what felt like it could have been an even keel in australia. We've heard that there's been another case of hotel. Quarantine being transmitted to someone who isn't in hotel quarantine this time a domestic worker at a hotel in sydney. How do we deal with these scholley. That just an inevitable part of leaving during a pandemic so how do we deal with them when they happen. So far starts new the caveat that the time of recording this corona cast. We've only got partial information. More information will know marriage but this is going to happen from time to time. Not just in new south wales but elsewhere initially. It sounded disorders persons working across two facilities. It may just actually look located facility. You'll remember in victoria. People are strictly working in one. They are going to genomics just to work out. Where exactly this person got up from. Is it hotel quarantine order. They get it from the community again by the time you just as we the answer to that question nonetheless when you test workers in quota quarantine regularly you will pick up positive cases and you might pick up positive cases that are relatively mildly symptomatic or symtomatic. The otherwise card. So it's a good thing that we are detecting them and hopefully we're getting onto very quickly and they are testing the context of this person so we just need to see what happens here. But it's going to a car and we're bringing people overseas with coronavirus. This is gonna is gonna occur in all jurisdictions and nobody can look done new south wales or victoria or anywhere else. This is now going to be part of covid life moving forward and presumably as long as we are surveilling. That really closely. There's no need to go into full lockdown mired if you're picking up those cases very close to the source that's right and you wills has had outbreaks and quite significant outbreaks managed to bring them back down to zero. So this is going to be the same thing i can't. I can't imagine that this is going to be a problem of the dimensions. Of say. The purview cluster in south australia. But who knows. We'll see that. Knock allowing the premier. Wis necessarily did say that he wouldn't hesitate to close the borders again. Norman you give up on your dream of seeing caucus no. I'm still hoping that Run a me hotel. Quarantine new south wales or not. Well the other big coronavirus news. It's that in the last thirty six hours or so is that the uk is going to roll out the final vaccine really exciting to have real life people getting real vaccine at the end of this really really long pandemic approval so it's not a proper approval obviously just on a dive to make sure there's no major safety issues and the risk versus equation given how many cases get the uk favors just using this vaccine. They reckon the risk is low but they they will not have really looked at the data from the trials in any great detail. This point so it looks as if it's safe will it prevent infection. We don't know that yet it. May it certainly will prevent covid nineteen disease which is great given. You've had so many deaths in the uk and for us. It means that we shouldn't be rushing at all. We're not in an emergency situation. We'd almost no virus in australia apart from hotel quarantine and we can wait and we can let the british to be blunt. The british and the americans make mistakes learn how to distribute it double check that it's safe when they've given it to millions of people over the next few weeks and we will will put us much better shape from when we implement so the approval for the visor vaccine. Maybe some of the others will be over the next six weeks maybe longer. And then it's that we will do it properly. We actually talked about that in a bit more detail in yesterday's episode of corona cost. So if you're interested go back and check that one out. The other thing. Norman that i could say a very popular new story yesterday about someone who'd had sips associated with covid nineteen and he seemed to have a really dramatic recovery because of a massive dose vitamin say. What do we make of this not march. We'd be my first response was fantastic for the patient. It's a one off. There's no randomize ation here. People will argue that. You don't need a randomized trial with a parachute in other words. Prove parachute works. You wouldn't do a randomized trial parachute works. You try it out. So here's somebody that they thought was gonna die. Didn't die from mega doses of vitamin c. They'll think that they know what. The mechanism is presumably. They'll say that it's because it says potent antioxidant and it's doing something for the free radicals that may not be the case. Very high doses of vitamin c are actually pro. Oxidant and i suspect that if this works they haven't got a clue why but it might be a signal that you would actually test this out in people over on a larger scale to see what's going on so

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Fresh update on "new south wales" discussed on Coronacast

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02:23 min | 8 hrs ago

Fresh update on "new south wales" discussed on Coronacast

"Reported teigen. Tayla journalists dr norman swan. It's friday the fourth of december and norman. Just as we felt like we were getting on top of the south australian outbreak and everything was coming towards what felt like it could have been an even keel in australia. We've heard that there's been another case of hotel. Quarantine being transmitted to someone who isn't in hotel quarantine this time a domestic worker at a hotel in sydney. How do we deal with these scholley. That just an inevitable part of leaving during a pandemic so how do we deal with them when they happen. So far starts new the caveat that the time of recording this corona cast. We've only got partial information. More information will know marriage but this is going to happen from time to time. Not just in new south wales but elsewhere initially. It sounded disorders persons working across two facilities. It may just actually look located facility. You'll remember in victoria. People are strictly working in one. They are going to genomics just to work out. Where exactly this person got up from. Is it hotel quarantine order. They get it from the community again by the time you just as we the answer to that question nonetheless when you test workers in quota quarantine regularly you will pick up positive cases and you might pick up positive cases that are relatively mildly symptomatic or symtomatic. The otherwise card. So it's a good thing that we are detecting them and hopefully we're getting onto very quickly and they are testing the context of this person so we just need to see what happens here. But it's going to a car and we're bringing people overseas with coronavirus. This is gonna is gonna occur in all jurisdictions and nobody can look done new south wales or victoria or anywhere else. This is now going to be part of covid life moving forward and presumably as long as we are surveilling. That really closely. There's no need to go into full lockdown mired if you're picking up those cases very close to the source that's right and you wills has had outbreaks and quite significant outbreaks managed to bring them back down to zero. So this is going to be the same thing i can't. I can't imagine that this is going to be a problem of the dimensions. Of say. The purview cluster in south australia. But who knows. We'll see that. Knock allowing the premier. Wis necessarily did say that he wouldn't hesitate to close the borders again. Norman you give up on your dream of seeing caucus no. I'm still hoping that Run a me hotel. Quarantine new south wales or not. Well the other big coronavirus news. It's that in the last thirty six hours or so is that the uk is going to roll out the final vaccine really exciting to have real life people getting real vaccine at the end of this really really long pandemic approval so it's not a proper approval obviously just on a dive to make sure there's no major safety issues and the risk versus equation given how many cases get the uk favors just using this vaccine. They reckon the risk is low but they they will not have really looked at the data from the trials in any great detail. This point so it looks as if it's safe will it prevent infection. We don't know that yet it. May it certainly will prevent covid nineteen disease which is great given..

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As restrictions lift, some tips to stay COVID free

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03:40 min | 1 d ago

As restrictions lift, some tips to stay COVID free

"I'm health reported teigen tayla and journalists daughter norman swan it's thursday the third of december and it's really ex- encouraging to say all around australia. Different restrictions is starting to lift. We sort of feel like we're coming into a different phase of this weird pandemic that we've had but when not out of the woods yet away so what sorts of things are we. Okay to sort of go okay. We're not going this hard on these restrictions anymore. And what things should we continue to do. Well the first thing. I'd say is to coronas listeners. We'd love to hear from you. What do you think once covered nine thousand nine hundred over. What will stay with you in terms of change behavior. Will you wear masks outside. We mask when you've got cold symptoms when you don't have to be tested anymore. We're gonna elbow each other. Ravin shake hands or we kissy kissy to complete strangers. You'll tell us what's going we'd love to hear from you. What changes you think you're gonna make in the long term because the memory of this pandemic will live with us forever and one of the weeds. Silver linings about this year has been that while we've been very distant from each other and there's been a big shadow over the year. We've also had less of the other diseases that we would just consider to be normal especially threat. Uinta wireless calls and flew seem to be circulating these ca compared to previous is so then the question is what do we do. Before fully immunized assuming immunization prevents transmission and that could be a year from now. It might take a long time or could be remarkably fast but nonetheless. We're still got a few months to go. We are not going to get vaccines probably to march being brought rolled out. We don't have the urgency of the united states and in person might come back to that a little bit onto more on tomorrow's current cast so kind to your question. I think at the moment if you get symptoms. You should be coming forward for testing. That's gotta stay with us right through and we're all fully immunized that can't change. I think that's not getting into spaces. That are too crowded unless you really have to being wary of poorly ventilated spaces. Indoor spaces i'm talking about those are things that are going to as you say to prevent getting the com code prevent is getting flu and we'll protect us. In general we certainly need to continue with a qr codes are in those jurisdictions that have them. That's going to be a very important part of our insurance in case there's an outbreak and i think that just prudent social distancing with people that you don't know you don't have symptoms and if you've got any symptoms you stay away from the people until you've got tested was would be the main things i think hygienes important question that you keep on washing your hands regularly trying to touch your face. That's very good hygiene advice. Which should last beyond the pandemic being careful off surfaces sneeze into your your elbow. Those are the sorts of things that will stay with me moving forward. So we've actually got a few questions about this nominee one of them's from someone in new south wales saying we allowed to hug yet or should social distancing still the norm. We can sit next to each other at restaurants but not hug which seems conflicting. Well i have to confess that with almost no virus circulating in new south wales which is where i'm based. I've started to hug. Shoot me down in flames. I've started hug. And it's only recently though confessions coming to go back to the jim and i'm still a little bit nervous in the gym because people are breathing heavily and washed on things very carefully to stay away from from the others as much as i can. I've started to hug but that trusts that. Somebody's not going to any symptoms and kind of know the person that i'm hugging a stranger and i'm not kissing so don't kiss people. I don't

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Borders are coming down. Were they based on science or politics?

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05:06 min | Last week

Borders are coming down. Were they based on science or politics?

"It is thursday the twenty sixth of november. And we're approaching the festive december norman. Which at least for me in queensland means that board is reopening to almost the rest of australia entirely which is a first for months now which is really great especially families who wanna get together For christmas and new year but were the borders. What do we know about border closures. In terms of how useful they are in stopping the spread. Is it more about science or is it more about politics. It depends on the date. So if you look at the victorian second wave new south wales the clusters in new south. Wales did originate in victoria before they closed the victorian border the where some people who turned up in queensland who would be in victoria so borders do work when you've got a fair bit of virus circulating there but the question is once you get almost no virus circulating. Do the borders need to stay closed. And if you remember queen opened up for a short period before closing gone again before the second wave occurred westminster. There has never really opened up. Although it's it's saying it slightly less onerous now but it's really effectively closed the moment if a borders closed and it's really now from now on wwl i think really effect most other places are open. South australia will eventually have access to states. Once they get over this pick up with the current outbreak. I think from now on is just politics because the risk is so low question is. Are we going to slap a border on again. If there's a cluster outbreak in new south wales or accuster outbreak in victoria me. The probably will be customer outbreaks because we're bringing people from overseas. The provia customer outbreak can in queensland because bringing people from overseas. I we're going to keep going backwards and forwards well propeller. She says no. She's not going to do that well. She's not gonna do that then. Why would she do it. Not in other words. She could do it in the future. Why has she done it in the past. I think that's no that the queensland election is passed then poltics becomes less of an issue. The west australian election is still to come. And i think quite honestly even though the risk is incredibly low if not nonexistent w borders will probably remain closed. Because there's an election coming you can see why states want to protect the resources of the health department's and protect the people that leaving there but it does seem like quite a blunt instrument to control spread. When you think about the size of the states that we have in australia blunt. It may be but it's probably been fairly effective when you had a lot of virus circulating but now is almost non and we're pretty much well in control. The problem you've gotten w for example is people have gone back to virtually back to normal and the virus comes in then you got a problem because it could spread but their risk is much more and the primary mcgowan has said. This martin mcgowan said this much more from hotel. Quarantine then is from new south wales victoria and they would have to do what south australia's done. Which is reboot contact tracing when the get outbreaks. So they're not ready for it and that's part of the problem as well so like you say we're coming into the end of the year with almost completely open borders across australia. What do you say the first half or the. Let's let's start with the first half of twenty twenty one looking like well. We're still waiting for vaccine rollout. Well i think that what will happen is that will continue to bring back people from overseas. Australians from overseas. I suspect we'll see a bubble open up with new zealand. Maybe the pacific islands as well. So there's no quarantine between us because we've got almost no cases so the new zealand to keep on quarantining us going there. We would almost cases. I suspect they will relax and open it up to us. The need us is poorly more than we need them. But that would be nice. Pacific islands pretty low low risk then got singapore which is a bit more awkward because the it being a transportation hob so i think you start to see. Some international bubbles opening up and. I think that you're going to see the odd outbreak here or there in australia but kept under control and we'll get back to some kind of normal life throughout australia and circulating normally no then the question will be at. What point. would you open up our borders to international travel and that will depend. I suspect on digital vaccine passports in other words except you people from overseas if they'd been immunized and of course that will depend on whether the vaccines prevent infection or just covid nineteen disease because if they don't prevent infection then you could be bringing people in from overseas who are carrying covid nineteen and could spread it here but if they prevent in which is going to take a little wild into the twenty twenty one to discover. You may not see vaccine passports being used in australia until we're sure how effective the vaccines are preventing transmission. But i think that you could see international flights starting sooner than many expected. Well

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A donut day before the storm? Is six days going to be enough?

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02:31 min | 2 weeks ago

A donut day before the storm? Is six days going to be enough?

"I'm health reported. Teigen tyler an assistant journalist author norman swan. It's friday the twentieth of november water week. What a week in date especially for people in south australia. And if you listening with thinking of you in lockdown at the moment but norman as well. Yesterday there were no new cases in south australia there in super hard lockdown if that finding more cases over the next couple of days can i just go straight back to normal as soon as lockdowns iva well. That's possible i suspect that what The authorities will do is give themselves another four or five day window just to make sure there aren't any because the six days is predicated. They think this is a short incubation period. Virus and we talked about that in yesterday's krona cast. It's unlikely that's true. It's probably just virus coronavirus like any other and it's going to be five days and therefore might wanna wait another few days just to check it out. They'll probably release people and a bit more and allow people to go out for more exercise and so on so it's going to be much more like a stage. Three i would imagine would be fairly safe to do. Going back to zero is probably politically a bit. Risky. because you don't want to reimpose it if if more cases reappear but you might relax and let people to go out so i suspect you might be on a ten day cycle in south australia. But what do i know. It's fantastic news. There are zero cases with a lot of testing being done and is a lot of testing. It's in in proportion. It's about the same. As victoria was at the peak of their pandemic. And we've been in touch with south australian health trying to see if we can get some more information about this strain that they were talking about that that the public health officer was saying how short incubation period and was mild. But they haven't been able to release that genomic info yet so we actually nar if it's materially different to the other corona virus strains that secular around the world. It's not. You can't really be unless some mutations. has occurred this is virus. That's come in from with somebody from brisbane. It's going to be one of the circulating viruses and britain. I'm not aware that the british are saying that they've got anything peculiar but their viruses are behaving. This was said at the beginning of the new south wales when they got somebody coming in from victorian you got the crossroads motel say that they were noticing very short incubation times. It was a different kind of fires. You didn't hear much more beyond that. Because i think it was just an artifact of the cluster where you just got intense spread during the cluster. Which makes you think that. It's a different virus. But in fact a different style of virus but in fact it's not

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So what's the deal with this new coronavirus strain in Adelaide?

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04:30 min | 2 weeks ago

So what's the deal with this new coronavirus strain in Adelaide?

"I'm health reported taken tyler. Opposition and journalist author norman swan. It's thursday the nineteenth of november. Big day yes. Big day especially for people in south australia where yesterday we were hearing that. Not only have a south. Australians going into an incredibly tough lockdown but a short one. we're also hearing the chief public health officer nicholas spirited talking about how this strain that circulating at adelaide ease different. It's shorter incubation period. People with it don't seem to have as many symptoms. What do we know about this strain in adelaide and it truly is different or if it's just looking like it's acting differently. This was said during the crossroads motel outbreak. In new south wales when the virus spread from victoria it was said there was a shorter incubation period. More likely to spread E- symptomatically and explaining why there was a really significant superspreader event in that hotel in new south wales. Now we've not heard very much about that since that was certainly at the beginning. Now the saying the same thing here. Now i've i've spoken to a couple of people who kind of know how this virus behaves and they wonder whether or not in fact what's going on is that you've actually got super sporting events and they're so significant the super spreader events. You start to wonder whether or not the incubation short and could be true. It's still not clear what the virus is. What the subset of the covid nineteen viruses. The has been a stream code in for three nine k which has been picked up in south australia. It's not entirely clear whether that's the form that circulating not that's one that's growing uk europe and really quite common there. It's on the spike. It's where it looks the so-called h two receptor which is how you get the lock and key mechanism going into the The cell and people have looked at various strains and wondered whether or not there are significant characteristic. So what what are they talking about here is to use technical terms a short replication cycle. In other words it replicates very quickly but it infects people and the more like. It's more likely to cause a symptomatic disease upfront. That's the kind of picture that i suspect. The chief health officer in south australia was Was communicating whether that's going to bear out when you look at this and when you compare the data from europe i mean clearly it's coming from the uk. Certainly this in forty nine k. is coming from the. uk. The have been suggestions in the uk that they're getting some short incubation periods viruses with a symptomatic spreads. Certainly you've got a lower mortality rate but hospitals are filling up. So i think this is a story that had to pan out but it's clearly spooked the authorities now. The you cannot separate the lockdown from the belief that this is a short replication cycle more infectious virus could spread he symptomatically. That's what they believe. You got to try and extinguish this virus. You've gotta get outside australia and the only way to get this virus outer and extinguish it. 'cause you don't have any anti viral treatments is by lockdown and stopping people from mixing and stop them sharpened quickly and stop the virus spreading. That's the way to extinguish the virus. I'm reminded you had james hatfield back in march if you can remember back. That far on the health report norman. And he made the point that the golden rule of networks basically the family trays viruses. is that if it looks like the virus is behaving differently. Ninety nine percent of the time it's actually because of the epidemiology or the way that the humans the house of the virus are interacting with each other so could not be possible that it's just the way were behaving rather than the virus itself. Yes exactly that's the point. I was making a few minutes ago. Which was that could be. Just had some really quite dramatic super spreading events that were worried about. Its pizza parlor. Four thousand people for goodness sake are in isolation although now it's the whole population that's an isolation you also could. Well be the the behavior. Rather suddenly an appearance of a new strain that scott these characteristics particularly when the strain that hit from victoria into new south wales there were saying the same thing and they went quiet on that because in the end i don't i'm not so sure that the virus that they got into new south wales was so terribly different from the one in victoria and i don't think people were arguing victoria that it had particularly unusual characteristics.

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Why South Australia's outbreak isn't going away anytime soon

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05:07 min | 2 weeks ago

Why South Australia's outbreak isn't going away anytime soon

"So norman. let's talk about south australia again today. And we know that they are dealing with an outbreak there at the moment. It's really early days and it's sort of hard to tell how it's going to go Yesterday we heard that didn't seem to be much in the way of community transmission which is good to hia. But it's a bit too early to go awesome new community transmission. We're outta the woods isn't it. It is and just need to remind cast listeners. Not they need to be reminded because they're no world authorities on the corona virus but this virus can go underground it can go underground with younger people asymmetric spread and then just pop sometime later and it can be some weeks later and just remind you. In washington state at the beginning of the pandemic it went underground for about weeks and this has been going now for over a week. Some suggestions even back to the seventh of november rather than the nine th of november. Which is what we thought the day when we started this discussion about south australia. That's a long time for the virus to be out there and circulating. And you just don't know where it's gone and there may be another sub cluster or spread somewhere else which just will pop up in a few days time or even in a couple of weeks time so you just cannot relax and it means that testing numbers should be really high. Should be looking at sewage and They maybe even should be starting to think about asymmetric testing as well. So that you you you. You getting mass testing of communities because the numbers of tests actually luke low pro rata thinking of south australia's about a quarter of the size of melbourne population wise. They still feel low. And i don't have the numbers to hand but when there was breaking shepherds and a lot of people came forward disproportionately far more than the coming forward inside the straight and it's not just people who are asymptomatic it yes it can go under the right out people who have low or no symptoms but in addition to that. There's these few days lag between when someone's exposed to the virus and then when they start showing symptoms or test positive for it so that life cycle of the virus kind of can play on. How complacency if we let it. That's right so five days is average but it can be longer than that and the near you get to win. Symptoms would have come out but you start to become positive more and more positive five to eight days into the infection. Then that positivity rate declines and just having one test for example may not be enough. You may have to go back for more so this is something that you just cannot relax about you. Just go to be on now for the next couple of weeks. At least so. What do we know about the numbers of south. Australians who are trying to get tested. Because i'm hearing anecdotal reports that people are trying and turned away. Yup about happened to be totally in the early days where they just hadn't got the pop up testing and the increased capacity. So hopefully that's going to improve dramatically but it was pretty unimpressive on day. One in terms of the response to the numbers of southeastern is kind of coming forward for tasting. We hear krona. cast listeners. Have been telling us that they got the results. Pretty quickly as indeed shoot and in any event you don't know how many people left the lines because they got fed up waiting. It's really important that people do come forward. There was a disturbing survey from the bureau statistics which they'd survey people and find that about half one and two. Australians would not come forward for testing of the only mild symptoms they would have more would come forward severe symptoms but not mild symptoms. Such remind people that mild symptoms are problem too. But we put the call out yesterday to you listeners. Especially those of you. Who are living in south australia to say what's happening with you. And how you feeling. And a bunch of you responded. Thank you so much for that. And kate saying she waited for three hours yesterday to get her child tested but the result came back today negative thankfully in less than twenty four hours a long time to wait to get the test but pretty quick turnaround of the results. You it's really a communist. Spirit there to actually do that and get into that lines. Stick it out because you're you're thinking about others as well as yourself so that's fantastic and then we got win. Who's sort of at the other end of the spectrum saying gwynn's pretty ticked off at a massive overreaction was is she's calling it too every time someone sneezes. She was looking forward to traveling to queensland to see her parents. Nash go without being forced into hotel. Quarantine that she can't afford and she's saying that the new south wales leader is the only one being sensible about all these of course. The state is not knowing how much virus there is in south australia but that should become clear over the next few days. It probably is an overreaction to close the borders the risk is low. They could do what they did before. Which is that we know. This is a para fueled cluster and the The clusters reasonably localized at the moment. They could limit the people coming in from those particular areas but adelaide is a small town. And so it's much harder to divide off the suburbs as easily.

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Why South Australia's outbreak isn't going away anytime soon

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05:07 min | 2 weeks ago

Why South Australia's outbreak isn't going away anytime soon

"So norman. let's talk about south australia again today. And we know that they are dealing with an outbreak there at the moment. It's really early days and it's sort of hard to tell how it's going to go Yesterday we heard that didn't seem to be much in the way of community transmission which is good to hia. But it's a bit too early to go awesome new community transmission. We're outta the woods isn't it. It is and just need to remind cast listeners. Not they need to be reminded because they're no world authorities on the corona virus but this virus can go underground it can go underground with younger people asymmetric spread and then just pop sometime later and it can be some weeks later and just remind you. In washington state at the beginning of the pandemic it went underground for about weeks and this has been going now for over a week. Some suggestions even back to the seventh of november rather than the nine th of november. Which is what we thought the day when we started this discussion about south australia. That's a long time for the virus to be out there and circulating. And you just don't know where it's gone and there may be another sub cluster or spread somewhere else which just will pop up in a few days time or even in a couple of weeks time so you just cannot relax and it means that testing numbers should be really high. Should be looking at sewage and They maybe even should be starting to think about asymmetric testing as well. So that you you you. You getting mass testing of communities because the numbers of tests actually luke low pro rata thinking of south australia's about a quarter of the size of melbourne population wise. They still feel low. And i don't have the numbers to hand but when there was breaking shepherds and a lot of people came forward disproportionately far more than the coming forward inside the straight and it's not just people who are asymptomatic it yes it can go under the right out people who have low or no symptoms but in addition to that. There's these few days lag between when someone's exposed to the virus and then when they start showing symptoms or test positive for it so that life cycle of the virus kind of can play on. How complacency if we let it. That's right so five days is average but it can be longer than that and the near you get to win. Symptoms would have come out but you start to become positive more and more positive five to eight days into the infection. Then that positivity rate declines and just having one test for example may not be enough. You may have to go back for more so this is something that you just cannot relax about you. Just go to be on now for the next couple of weeks. At least so. What do we know about the numbers of south. Australians who are trying to get tested. Because i'm hearing anecdotal reports that people are trying and turned away. Yup about happened to be totally in the early days where they just hadn't got the pop up testing and the increased capacity. So hopefully that's going to improve dramatically but it was pretty unimpressive on day. One in terms of the response to the numbers of southeastern is kind of coming forward for tasting. We hear krona. cast listeners. Have been telling us that they got the results. Pretty quickly as indeed shoot and in any event you don't know how many people left the lines because they got fed up waiting. It's really important that people do come forward. There was a disturbing survey from the bureau statistics which they'd survey people and find that about half one and two. Australians would not come forward for testing of the only mild symptoms they would have more would come forward severe symptoms but not mild symptoms. Such remind people that mild symptoms are problem too. But we put the call out yesterday to you listeners. Especially those of you. Who are living in south australia to say what's happening with you. And how you feeling. And a bunch of you responded. Thank you so much for that. And kate saying she waited for three hours yesterday to get her child tested but the result came back today negative thankfully in less than twenty four hours a long time to wait to get the test but pretty quick turnaround of the results. You it's really a communist. Spirit there to actually do that and get into that lines. Stick it out because you're you're thinking about others as well as yourself so that's fantastic and then we got win. Who's sort of at the other end of the spectrum saying gwynn's pretty ticked off at a massive overreaction was is she's calling it too every time someone sneezes. She was looking forward to traveling to queensland to see her parents. Nash go without being forced into hotel. Quarantine that she can't afford and she's saying that the new south wales leader is the only one being sensible about all these of course. The state is not knowing how much virus there is in south australia but that should become clear over the next few days. It probably is an overreaction to close the borders the risk is low. They could do what they did before. Which is that we know. This is a para fueled cluster and the The clusters reasonably localized at the moment. They could limit the people coming in from those particular areas but adelaide is a small town. And so it's much harder to divide off the suburbs as easily.

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Australia has a coronavirus outbreak. What happens now?

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02:20 min | 2 weeks ago

Australia has a coronavirus outbreak. What happens now?

"Norman as we've been celebrating darnall days left right and center in ustralia over the past week or so. We've now heard that. Three people have tested positive for coronavirus in south australia. Outside of hotel. Quarantine an eighty year old woman. Some of her close contacts. And then there's other people in her circle that have symptoms and they're expecting more cases to come forward. I mean are we ever gonna know this thing. Well the answer is maybe not going to be with us forever. It just depends on how we control it. So i mean just you know. It's not good for south australia. This happened But we have said on. Chronic has many times now. It's not a question of pride that we've said it but everybody knows it that we're importing people who deserve to come back to australia. Australians living overseas who want to come home and the coming home from high prevalence area so the coming home with the covid nineteen virus and sometimes covid nineteen itself and quota quarantine has got to remain secure for the virus not to escape and we'll only find out as time goes on maybe later on today. What exactly happened inside the stereo and confirming the disney escape from hotel quarantine. The testing people emergency department and elsewhere. So they've just straight go to really move and they are really moving into major containment excise as the queensland for example when cases came across the border and as the due south wales when there was a major coster victoria through the motel and southwest sydney so south australia's chief public health officer nicklaus spirit has called it. A up. call is asking people in south australia to get tested if they've got symptoms but it's not really just a wake up call for south australia. Is it everywhere. I mean people coming into every state. I'm not sure that they started yet. In pretoria think we have but for every state. It's a wake up call and hotel. Quarantine is only as good as the security around. It must be quite easy for the virus to escape if people's vigilance relaxes so it's you. It's a system problem. It's probably not a bad egg or anything like that. It's just hard to maintain day in day out. We can we out and this will probably happen more often and the west australian premier mcgowan. Yesterday's press conference was saying the biggest threat to western. Australia was indeed hotel quarantine and here. It is in south australia.

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Digital anthropology with Genevieve Bell

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07:38 min | Last month

Digital anthropology with Genevieve Bell

"I think i think many of us when when we actually think of technical systems we think of the modern digital technologies but technical systems. They've been around weavers an awful long time they have. And it's nice to get to talk to you. And per james and often when i start conversations not usually podcast but other conversations. I'd stop by actually acknowledging. I am and that's partly a story about an older technical system are today. I'm sitting on the lands of the wall and nambi people. I don't want to pay my respects to the eldest pasta present and to acknowledge that this compensation will be listened to on the lands of traditional owners and traditional elders all over the world. I wanna pay my respects to them to and from a pot of acknowledging the place where you're standing with the place where you're starting is whenever i want to think about technical systems or about build a future all telling stories about the future. I like to imagine that most of those stories didn't come out of nowhere right. They start somewhere with someone. And i'm lucky enough to live these days in a country where humans have been building technical systems. Well first closest forever as we can probably get so. There are technical systems in australia. That died back. Forty sixty thousand years. And i was thousand years. Yeah absolutely humans deliberately creating structures that changed the world in order to create different kinds of experiences. I was lucky enough. Two years ago to go visit one. I in a town called warrener was on the new south wales queensland border. So you're thinking of a map of australia. Go two thirds of the way up mostly to the right and the river system and there's a place where a large riba abandons basically and on that band there are a series of stone. Fish whiz archaeologists argue. About how old they are. But the running argument somewhere between four to forty thousand years old in either instance that makes them some of the oldest human built technical structures in the world and these are deliberate right. They extend columbia in distance. Downriver they are a series of stone u-shaped pens that were built to contain the fishes. The water moves up in flows down that river in the fish. Move up that are filters the fish. Basically in flow of their series of fish fish traps all they built like fishnets. That is the origin story of the one of the ancestors decided to build a stone. Fish nets they will lost photographed in use in the nineteen teens So a system that is thousands if not tens of thousands of years in the making it suggests incredibly on robust understanding of hydrology of fish behavior. These have been carefully tended and curated over seasons and he is in decades and they were not built for the sake of them are. They weren't because someone said got some startling lying around. We should do something with that comes from quite some distance. It's dry stone. If you know anything about that. Kind of technology said dry stone walls familiar. I suspect in your part of the world as mine and they were utilized with complicated social patents about who tended them who will job to the fish but ultimately what they was in the service of doing multiple nations to gather on the banks of that river and trade conduct rituals exchange information a human at scale and so he has this system that says the humans that lived in that place on the stood stone but amsterdam hydrology. They understood the behaviors of fish. And i thought about people and human society. And so whenever i think about technical systems in my now life twenty-first-century like to hold that idea in the back of my head that it is possible to build technical systems. That are not just technologies right. They are systems of knowledge. They are ways of understanding the environment ways of making sense all the end supporting human behavior and that those things don't have to be At all to each other they can actually exist as a system of systems. And so it's kind of this powerful image that sits in the back of my head most is not that system if it lasted that long forty thousand plus years then they have been managing it. I guess you mean they're they're also iterating it. Because the absolutely there's evidence of that system evolving and growing over time expanding and contracting in terms of where the storms will being moved. And of course it's also system that existed through a period of european colonization of australia so when europeans i turned up in that set of river valleys in the eighteen eighteen twenties. They sold the ways. They knew that average won't people had fish there by the time. The townships built there later in that century Europeans took some of the rocks out of the river because they were smooth and well shaped and use them to make the foundations of the towns nearby. Thus both changing the way that system work but also taking some of that knowledge and in some ways inserting it into a whole although structure and in the meantime new concrete ways will put on that river to redirect the water so that it could be used for shipping and that sort of changed those systems. but no. you're absolutely right. That's a period of time. So thirty ten thousand years forty thousand years multiple changes in global environment such that people would have had to have thought differently and continued to write and evolved that system and work out what worked and then they were willing to change and how to go about changing it and i think you know for me. I don't know about you to. I've spent a long time silicon valley and it's been a long time around engineers and the notion of site someone right. Here's the thing that system you'll building. I need to get at least ten thousand years out of it. Forty would be excellent but tanzi bottom is other than stewart brands long now foundation. I can't think of that. Many people who are thinking on a ten thousand horizon for a technical system given given that we've we've done those can achieve those kinds of technical systems of those kind of periods of time on scale given the frustrations with with how many the systems we're dealing with the developing six silicon valley valet or in the digital sphere. That feels frustration. Feels were not building stuff with that kind of sam. Not we're not just diligence but thoughtfulness and consideration for how. It's going to do what it wants to should be doing. In the beginning we do. Also i think we have not necessarily thought about technology inside those other relationships and responsibilities. Right when i sort of may one of the things about these fish traps in war and other systems like them is that they want just about starting right. This is not olympics oriented system. We have a phone system. It's not that right. It was designed with the intention of supporting human activity in known human activity and things that mattered and it was designed into the environment rather than pretending that it didn't exist with a blank slate right so there's a. I'm not sure that we miss the ball. I think it's that we allow ourselves to imagine different starting point and we haven't always thought about technologies that way you look back at multiple points in the history of the west in the history of technologies globally. We've often been willing to imagine. That would different starting points and didn't always start with. Oh have this technology. What will we do with it. It often started with this thing. We should look at how to do better. Or i think being trying to think about having a soul or or attention we need to resolve. And we're going to put technology in the middle to resolve it.

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Will European lockdowns work or are they too weak?

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09:31 min | Last month

Will European lockdowns work or are they too weak?

"So we have come out of a really long slog here in Australia especially in Victoria where we've had a very long lockdown and the payoff has been really low numbers of community transmission. Now here in Australia and in contrast Europe is heading into winter and the case numbers they are ratcheting up really quickly to the point where the UK and many countries in Europe are announcing really tough lockdown measures and so let's talk about that a bit Norman what are we? What are they looking at doing in England and some of those European countries. Varies a bit and it seems to be driven by a fear that their hospitals in ICU's will be overwhelmed. You've already got a significant number of beds taken up in France and Spain Britain is worried that the NHS the National Health Service, will be overwhelmed and I think the hand has been forced. But they're all coming into this late. So they're doing curfews. Don't think there's any country in Europe that's locking down schools showing who so school's Continue And I think that universities do in some places as well. So the education system stays open bars, restaurants that sort of thing close or our time restricted. So I'm not sure that anybody is really going for the hard. Stage four type lockdown that we saw in Victoria. And, it has to be said that's really the only thing that works. So the problem that you're is God and most European countries and are two problems. One is the borders are not properly closed. So the borders are not closed. You can go to lockdown, but new cases can come in all the time even though you might have border checks and people are not supposed to communicate got symptoms and so on. They do have open borders to some countries in the world, but it's a pre Philip. Britain, it's a pretty long list includes strata. Most of them seem quite sensible in terms of having quarantine free travel. But it's moving around a bit. But where else you might have trouble coming in from and in Europe itself, the borders seem to be largely open although it's up to each European country to say its own rules and by the time you're listening to this podcast this chronic. The rules could could possibly have changed. That's why I'm not really being very specific. Point being is that you need a lockdown of your country and your lockdown of people's movements. That the virus. Stays with the stews infected and you don't get new clusters emerging and there aren't very many countries in Europe that have got the testing and contact tracing regime that we're lucky to have in. Australia. and. The question is, are they going to put that in place? So you were saying before that the only thing that really does the job is really hard lockdowns luck we had in Victoria, but doesn't it depend on what approach that country is trying to take like we were hearing in the beginning this idea flattening the curves that we wouldn't overwhelm the hospital system is that what they're trying to do their just push just smooth out the number of cases a bit more without having to have really tough lockdowns just so that they're not having. Intensive care units different approach to Australia will certainly is a different approach to Australia. It's been all along they went the lifted, whatever they had to. Early they had some some period where people particularly Spain were just letting their hair down and we're paying the price for that now, and so that's all these European countries will achieve is a bit of the flattening of the curve if they're lucky and therefore a bit of. Heat of their hospitals in ICU's. But you're still going to have a lot of people who are very sick and they may not succeed as well as they should. Israel's done quite a good job. It was doing really badly with hundreds of thousands of cases and its case rate seems to have come down with a fairly significant lockdown. It has to be said in Israel. So Israel's a success story now having been a failure. And so it's been quite impressive how it's how it's brought it down. But the question is, will that happen in Europe and will it be enough or will it be too late and it's just out of control what other projections maybe not every European country but I know that the UK has daughter about the different scenarios. What kind of numbers are we talking about the sky's the limit? Really I mean Israel's an interesting example because you've got a small population of nine million or so people with several hundred, thousand cases. And that's what could have happened to Tori as well. You when you've got a non immune population, you can have very very large numbers and so at the moment, for example, in Britain as we saw that prevalence study that we talked about last week on Krona cast. In June after thirty thousand deaths, they had six percent prevalence of antibodies. So that suggests that six percent. Of the British public were infected with covid nineteen. Your albeit the antibody levels dropped over a period of time. So, there's ninety four percent of the population left infected. So that's a lot of people to go. So the sky is the limit unfortunately, and so the question then on the modeling and there was interesting modeling out of Washington State about media months six weeks ago, which suggested that once you got to about twenty percent. Prevalence of people who've been infected. So in other words that level of population immunity, I won't use. Herod. Amenity, here really misplaced tarum. With social distancing, you might be able to control the virus. But that's a long way to go twenty percent of the British populations millions twenty percent of the German and French, population is millions to get to that point and then you start to control it. So. There's a long way to go. Yeah. Really high price to pay for perhaps not the payoff that you need to actually stop the spread and remember that it was going size. The mortality rates come down as indeed it has because we're better treating. People were a and there are drugs now particularly zone which reduces the death rate and the other new drugs antibody drugs that will start to come on stream, but even so people are still getting the disease. there. Tonight on seven thirty avacado story of. radiographer WHO's worked in Melbourne and weeks after his. Infection which he caught in hospital he's still very unwell not able to exercise and really feeling lousy. So the burden on the community is enormous beyond people dying. So we're getting questions for me. It's not just about what's happening Estrella but also it's happening overseas and how it's asking, what do you make of the curfew measures in Europe where you got? Pubs closing at ten pm and that sort of thing why or how are those sorts of issues effective. So a curfew, a curfew by itself is not really going to do very much of anything. You've got to stop people moving around during the day as well as at night, and you do that by shutting POB shutting restaurants, shunning public areas that are. That are high risk Gymnasia and so on. And then a curfew on top of that in your say starting at nine o'clock through to the early morning. Restricts People's movements even more, but it's it's on the it's on the margins. It's not going to be the core thing that you do, and of course, no country in Europe is closing down schools, which means that you've got large numbers of parents circulating in the community each day taking the kids to school and picking them up unless, of course, the letting go by public transport with masks on, and that's the other thing is the extent to which countries are mandating. mask-wearing they should all be mandating mask-wearing to really reduce the spread as much as possible in public areas particularly indoors, and we've got a question from someone in New South, Wales who's having greeting anxiety. So they are asking if we got aerosol spread if I was to be in a room with someone for a long period of time, does it make any difference if I give them a hug when I I see them a does the one point five made a rule. That much. If you with someone in an enclosed space for a prolonged period will you should not get yourself into a situation where you're in a very poorly ventilated area in for an extended period, you should just not be in that situation. So it's fine being indoors particularly wasn't sure these days because the risk is so low, but anyway, your sittings gotta be ventilated possibly to to the discomfort of being to cold. So you've got through drafts and fresh air, and then the the risk is much lower. Now, if you give people a hug when you see them, then you're increasing the risk even further. So you should really maintain social distance touch elbows and not get too close because you're just amplifying the problems because there's no question does spread by droplets and close contact. So you're just making the situation worse. So to avoid greeting anxiety, you just stop hugging people kissing them, etc and you and you maintain a bit of distance. Well, it's time for on Koranic today if you've got a question policing leading new go-to. Dot Net air you slash krona cast click ask a question and mentioned current castle. We can find it still lots of questions coming in and we welcome them

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Why the worsening pandemic overseas is a risk to Australia

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04:00 min | Last month

Why the worsening pandemic overseas is a risk to Australia

"Say Norman it's really heartening to see in Ustralia that at local outbreaks are really coming down to really really levels but the case numbers each day are still high and that's partly because of returned travelers. So people who've coming back to Australia from other countries, many of which have caught lodge outbreaks of coronavirus happening there. We know that last time the big outbreak in Victoria happened from an escape from hotel quarantaine and the New South Wales Health Minister. Bread has it has indicated that he's worried about the potential for something like that to happen again what? Is that scenario and Health New South Wales also worried about the resource implications. I mean, we said before that a few weeks ago I got information from the raw prince Alfred that. Nursing shifts a week were be used at that point for Hotel Corentin, and that's before we upped the ante trying to get thirty thousand streams back before Christmas and as you say, coming from high prevalence countries. So the risk has gone up as the second wave in Europe has gone up. So the risk to us of returning Australians has gone up as well in proportion, and so we're going to see more people coming back who are positive and we want expanded facility. So. It's fantastic that we've got this facility, the heartstrings facility in the Northern Territory which apparently can be expanded, but it can take about one thousand people a foreigner right now that's not going to get you there in terms of Christmas, and getting all these people back and it requires medical resources so that people who are arriving back who might be sick, and in fact, there are people arriving back through sickness. One reason why they WANNA come back to get medical care and distributor. And that was the other implication for all prince offered is that some people were coming out of hotel quarantine to come into hospital For Surgery and other things nothing to do with covid nineteen because they were just seek and they needed help and they're entitled to it. So the question is, how do you scale and what do you do in the government? A report has a report on this and you can take a risk approach, which is that you say, well, if you coming back from Britain or Italy or France, then that's high risk and go into high risk facilities, but if you coming from China. Or Singapore assuming you're not in transit in Singapore that you've been in Singapore for a while obviously New Zealand and other countries than we maybe have a light touch you can quarantine at home we can do ankle bracelets you allow the authorities to track go track you on your phone those sorts of things that we can do but they're all got risk attached to them and we just going have to be really careful because we're all rejoicing Victoria opening up and through the Fall of nobody just the pressure of positive cases coming back we could be at significant risk of some cluster outbreaks. So we got the Howard Springs facility in the Northern Territory, which is great and elsewhere in it's mostly been done in hotels which really useful for quarantine but not purpose built for it. Do we need to be thinking more about the along the lines of the quarantine stations that we used to have a century ago? Well, yes, not can't imagine that the. Government's not thinking about that. So we have these quarantine stations the to I know best of the ones one of the Mornington peninsula in Victoria and the one on south, head, New South Wales, and they were designed for exactly this purpose in the nineteenth century and early twentieth century ships coming back from overseas, which might have had smallpox on them or infections that they didn't fully understand people went to the quarantine station and stayed there for a while until it was sorted out. They could be re purposed. They're not very big really in terms of numbers of people that you could take them. There are army camps. There are other things that you could do, but it's where you might be geographically isolated. It's hard for people to get away from them, but you look after humanely in reasonable comfort while you're quarantining in addition to using home corentin when it's much safer to do. So I think that you can look on this as a national project we want Australians to come home and we're gonna find ways of doing it.

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Victoria takes a deep breath and opens up!

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04:58 min | Last month

Victoria takes a deep breath and opens up!

"I'm health reported Teigen Tyler Physician and Journalists Dr Norman Swan on this really important for all pride. Victorians. Chief see the twenty seventh of October. Yes. Finally yesterday in Victoria. The Prima Donna Andrews announced the revised roadmap towards bacteria covid normal and it was a real relief for Victorians and the rest of the nation Norman what sort of the highlights of what Dan Andrews said yesterday because it's the comprehensiveness of the opening up, there is no daily dallying now retail hospitality getting back to work. Yes. There are restrictions on indoor numbers and outdoor numbers. But if you live in New South Wales, you're used to that and that will take a while to loosen up but everything just gets going and later on today the numbers in households will become clearer because that is a high risk environment. But if recycle is anything to go by, you won't really notice it too much and it will loosen up with time zones. There aren't any significant outbreaks. Milestone in starting. To have zero cases and the last time, the state had zero cases when on the ninth of June one hundred and forty days ago. So obviously, there's still probably GONNA be filtering through in the next few days but really, really hot. The. Really hot work that they've been doing paying off you know Sommese. Still be virus in Victoria and you will see the odd cluster popping up as indeed they do new South Wales, but eventually, it will get down to almost zero spread. So it's it's fantastic news. But the premiums, right it's constant vigilance is what's required covered normal does not be normal covered normal means social distancing means not getting together to large numbers too. Early it needs ring really careful at home in means continuing to wear masks outside so. Lucky. That they've got mandated masks. New South doesn't yet. You know hair salons can do services when the clients wearing face covering corona cast listeners will remember that we covered the story in a few weeks ago a few months ago I can't remember now but the flat tackle that's right. The in united. States swear to positive here salon workers did not pass the virus onto their clients by wearing masks insisting that their clients wear masks. So it's really important. So these things will protect US moving forward. One of the things that really stood out to me went any Landrus is talking about what the new normal looks like is how much the rest of the country can learn from this because in places that aren't. Victoria and you South Wales. It's been quite a long time since it's been a lot of virus circulating in the community that we know about at least and I know from my own experience living in Queensland that I think there's a lot of complacency that's crept in and it's probably a good time to just refocusing guy this isn't normal life. We still got a kate how God's up try and it could come in to come in on a ship from overseas. You've already seen problems in western. Australia nobody is particularly safe the risk of spread by open borders and I was extremely low, but it does mean we've all got to be careful moving forward. At some point, international borders are going to have to open up we're going to have to learn what covered normal actually means now new South Wales are ready to move in. You saw the football matches you. It doesn't feel to abnormals in in in in New South Wales, and that's the real feeling in Victoria but I think those two states are better prepared for this. Than the other states and we've got to open up the borders and people just will have to be more careful definitely in Australia where in a much better position than other parts of the world where covered normally is no in knee normal live, and in the states, this disease control have expanded their definition of what a close contact means in terms of someone's ability. To spread the virus if they had this definition by the way, these definitions are fairly arbitrary based on evidence. That's not necessarily very solid. So they had a similar a criterion to us which right at the beginning of the pandemic was sh- you might remember which is he going to be within a couple of meters of somebody for fifteen minutes to have a significant. Chance of passing this on and what we know now is the aerosol spread the lows that's be contravened indoor environments but no the redefined were close contact is if you just think about that as the means of spread and there's no question that a lot of spread is through contact and what they've found is that in fact, you can be in close contact with somebody. Over a twenty, four hour period repeatedly. So it's not just a fifteen minute window. It's actually multiple occasions and it comes from correctional facilities where they've shown that tired the infection was probably cumulative infection over a period of time. So it's no longer fifteen minutes. It's still two meters in the case of the United States, but it can be over twenty four hour period not just one fifteen minute window. So multiple short episodes of content

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COVID-19 in Victoria, Australia

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09:23 min | Last month

COVID-19 in Victoria, Australia

"Gratified Friday that's right. Twenty third of Tober pardon the PUN number really pushing towards the grand finale Victoria in terms of stamping out the lost. Stubborn pots of coronavirus is still spreading down there. Yes, and there's clearly still virus around in the northeast corridor. Expected of totally disappeared from there and the pop up clinic, and that's that's the way it's going to go forward US way it's going New South Wales in Swiss going to go forward in Victoria and it's a good thing that they're onto its and jumping onto things quickly. So what we're looking forward to on Sunday from Andrews hopefully is certainly moving forward the restriction relaxations he talked about November I this weekend, but I suspect you might see but more than that in terms of. Restaurants spars that sort of thing where you just might see a speeding up or much more much better defined pathway to those opening up in the near future because Victoria is in pretty good shape we did he gets day battle outbreak in a housing block area in Melbourne is this just like we don't need a look down to get on top of those riot if the public health machine is working better now than it was before the and also if you've got the community onside and they're willing to cooperate because the realized the implications of very much larger knock time. So it's the fuel for the fires. When people are living in densely populated circumstances so it could spread incredibly quickly. So going to get on top to get on top of it quickly, but the capacity to do so is much better and there's less distraction around in Victoria. There's a lot of distraction around when you those terrible outbreaks in addition to the other outbreaks in abattoirs and elsewhere in Victoria there's. A lot going on towards the last time there outbreaks in those densely populated towerblocks these days the capacity is there to focus more and have fewer distractions around because there's so much less virus circulating the virus is circulating you know where it's come from right and so I sort of moving towards our kind of steady state of figuring out our relationship with this virus here. And hopefully, looking at opening up our internal borders at some stage in the near future. WHAT ABOUT INTERNATIONAL BORDERS? There's still lots of Australians overseas. There's. All. Students. WanNa come here. Tourism operators here are really struggling and I'm sure there's some. Really want to go overseas as well. WH- should've reopening paddle clack for Ustralia more broadly. Well, it's a very complicated landscape. You Go to feel for these thirty odd thousand students who went back many of them are quite unwell. Don't be exposed to covid nineteen in the places where they're at and they desperately want to get home to their families and they feel cut off. The problem is that we tend to have a one-size-fits-all to our overseas entries and it should be possible to open up a more strategic way if the politics would allow it and I'm not blaming the politicians here is a difficult situation and you've got to do something about stranded. Australians. Overseas. But a lot of them are in countries which have a high prevalence of SARS covy to like the UK European, the US and places like that. Tends to be where strain school some of them are in Asia and lower prevalence countries. So when you're sending a Qantas plane over to London to pick up people, you're bringing back in the plane presumably, they could take three or four hundred people bringing back hundred and seventy five because the crews got to be protected and the people on board to be protected bear in mind that all of the tens of thousands of who've already. Return the only been three or four hundred infections in. Australia. Yes. We hear about the movie dates true but it's low numbers trouble with that is as we've seen Victoria, you only need one episode of escape from Whole Hotel, it's not the family escaped by the virus did circumstances and you've got a real problem on your hands. So the risk is high, but the risk is particularly high when you're bringing back people from high prevalence countries. You've got a lot of international students in China. You'd have to exclude those in India because that's a high prevalence country but China is a low prevalence country. The should be a way of bringing back international students quite soon from China with judicious testing intensive testing, maybe limited quarantine with intensive testing, and there are ways of doing that but perhaps turning over halls of residence colleges to their limited quarantine that you might. Introduce Singapore certainly New Zealand. Pacific. Islands that you could open up these places quite quickly, and of course, if a stranger stranded there, those would be your first priority. You could probably stand up on this plane over and fill it up particularly wear masks and bring it back with a far more than one hundred, seventy, five on board, and almost a full complement of passengers. Because the risk is so low, so should be possible to a risk adjusted system where for safe areas, you have one way of managing it and from high-risk is another and this probably no alternative if you're living in the UK or Europe and want to get back to coming back on a on a very low load plane. So this is different to travel bubble. Is that it's a bit more like you still have to quarantine, but it's just not does we don't have to have as high stringency because the risk is lower it needs a lot of thought it's not straightforward and the highest priority has to be stranded strings overseas. It's just intolerable that we don't solve that problem and it's a bipartisan shoes not party political but equally. Doing. This, which minimizes the risk from already low-risk countries. The should be a way to manage risk more carefully an a nuanced way depending on where people are coming from. So it's not an open bubble, but it is a lower intensity of corn team. So let's take some questions from audience and what better way to rip through a few to do him as a quickfire Friday round you ready ready to go now. Jeffries asking you mentioned the other day that masks need to be washed at sixty degrees Celsius to make sure the virus free but domestic hot water services limited to fifty degrees. So I wanted to be hand washing his cloth masks in water hated in the kettle or what I think that random mackel worked find that sixty degrees was what did the work but you'll find that detergent in warm water should do it the same way it's just that extended washing cycle I think. So fifty degrees, sixty degrees who knows whether it makes any difference the. Point that Ryan McIntosh was making here is a quick rinse in the hand basin. There's not enough specimens a farmer and wants to know why if humans contracted card from animals? Why are the mammals supposedly don't get the virus and has anyone bothered to test shaped cattle pigs and so on record low testing of animals corona there's a lot of coronavirus infection in animals. Pigs get a similar co diseased covid nineteen, and in fact, there is a pig vaccine as far as I'm aware to a respiratory syndrome similar to covid nineteen, but it's not SARS coffee to. are lower than will species have been tested and not find to carry this dogs can be infected but don't seem to retain the virus very well whereas cat. stew. Agricultural, animals don't seem to be a big problem to corona virus is prevalent in lots of different species. This person's flying to dial in from CD next week's visit family added about it. What precautions should they take for the flight? Well, I think for any flight my view is that you should wear a mask threat flight and just be careful about hygiene and Qatar saves on Colonel Cast a few days ago when you flush the toilet. Religious so you don't have an erase allies. And I think this question is asking about sewage testing how can test for the virus with all those millions of latest of water and other chemicals and just take a small test tube and still be able to identify the virus Yup it's mind boggling but they're able to genetically to actually look for the fragments of the virus I think that this is done with antibodies that pickup the virus, and then lie top when they've picked up the. Joys a big fan of Corona cast and her son is a paramedic in London and has had a very mild case of covid nineteen. But she's heard recently that everyone who gets five nineteen has long lasting effects in the front of their brain. Is this true please cleared up her because she's worried you can stop worrying Joe it's far from through a percentage of people do get long-term. Effects. And it's really not known yet what the percentage is, but it's not the of people and one more question Norman Magin one infectious person walks into a room with ten others spends a considerable amount of time seven, get the virus and three. Why don't those three becoming victim? Is it because I got better immune systems probably just the play of chance, but it could be that you've got some genetic. To the virus always somebody in society with a new virus, who's got genetic resistance to that virus by the play of chance, these are mysteries to which we don't know could be that they just didn't inhale quite as many viral particles as others who knows it is a difficult question hasn't indeed uses it. Just another one of the many mysteries that still surround covid nineteen

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Is Europe copying Victoria's lockdown strategy?

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04:54 min | Last month

Is Europe copying Victoria's lockdown strategy?

"Say Norman. Let's talk about a place, which is now imposing a five Columba travel limit You can't go to the body shop anymore he conquered the beauty salons jeans I'm not talking about Victoria I'm talking about I land and it looks like pices in Europe adopting some USTRALIAN stall approaches to curbing coronavirus. Yes. Because despite all the complaints about lockdown in Victorian has unnecessary M- should. Just. Let it go climbing from some sources and how in complaining not letting up quickly enough lockdown is actually all you can do when it's getting out of control I mean as a Stralia being used as an example to the world or is this just best practice? No matter where you are let's talk about Ireland for a moment, which is a country that's got a smaller population than Victoria bending how you define. It is right about five million people in the past month if at seventeen thousand cases past week seven, thousand by yesterday twelve, hundred cases in a single day. So. That's getting pretty worrying from them and they they're locked on looks remarkably similar to victorious yet they're going into heights lockdown of his six weeks well, in Victoria. That wasn't long enough. Do you think they might extend it? Well, it's hard to say and it goes on modelling the Senate got more cases and more virus circulating and as we've said. Before on Corona, Cast University of Sydney modeling showed that for every day you delay lock tone when you're out of control, it's a week at the other end, which is one reason why Victoria has gone on a bit longer they try to ring-fence thirty six suburbs. It didn't work and that delayed things by a couple of weeks and we've probably shortened it by lot. At, the end effect on that but that's engine. Now the sorted out and the hopefully, we'll get done very levels, but it depends on how much virus there is around week or so ago a senior person at the W. H. O., the World Health Organization was saying lockdowns shouldn't be the primary way that countries control Khurana, virus, and that sort of headline went out. And I think a of the new Scott got in it because we are seeing countries using lockdown and it can be effective. So where's the? Where's the nuance here? So that's certainly not what was being said last week courting the World Health, organization and we for Monday's synthetically report I interviewed Dr Dave Navarro. Who's in fact, the same health official he's professor of public. Health. Imperial College London and his Special Envoy to World Health Organization on Covid Nineteen, and he feels that he's been misrepresented his view is that sure down is not the first thing that you do. It's not your primary means of control. Your primary means of control has to be testing and contact tracing and quarantine in isolation of the people you find in that process. However he does say that you can get to a point where locked is the only thing that you can do and you should use that lockdown to improve your contact and testing regime. And in fact, if you look at Victoria, that's really although in the first wave, that's what we did as a nation back in March we got our act together in terms of contact tracing. There are still deficiencies in Victoria and they have used the last few weeks to get much better and so the contact tracing regime now in Victoria is fantastic there. quickly, the locking off mystery cases in super-quick time, and that's what you've gotta get. So then fighting the of used that time well. It's not that they're against lockdown. It's just that it has its place. and. When you when it's out of control, the way it is in Europe you've actually got to be able to do that another problem. And, I don't know what they've done in Ireland here. But the problem is the borders and it was a really interesting study the other day looking counties in the United. States and showing that cross-border flow was a very important factor in both the sustenance and the growth of SARS COV to infections. and. If you don't control your borders and you still got people coming in from outside, it's very hard to get this done and on control it. So so really European. Countries are trying to do this with one hand tied behind their bank. Britain and Ireland could control their borders because they're islands but it's harder for other nations exactly and can we just come back to smoking before about Australia and we are doing the numbers that are coming out now looking really really promising do how close are we to having zero spread here in Australia, we're almost there new south. Wales still has cases popping up Victoria might get there before New South Wales because they're still in lockdown and those extra few days of Lockton make make all the difference I think New South Wales it's going to be really hard but they're. You know they're getting on top of it too. I think we're going to be very, very tiny sprayed, and maybe in Victoria, they'll get done to zero spread. And that will make it much easier to open things

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Interview With Hayden James

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Interview With Hayden James

"Wary are you in? Sydney. in Sydney. Yes. So I live in Sidney Australia is camera everything's Okay you look great. Ula Great. Yeah. Yeah. Sweet Yeah in Sydney in my studio. I, live in the northern beaches, which is basically like I'm right next to manly beach and so I the Hassi with my wife and baby boy and I built a studio in one of the kids rooms and it's like a room within a room. So we kinda built it up over a COUPLA months? And when I close it all you can't hear anything. So at some I, get to let him using whatever. That's really nice man and yeah. especially with a kid to it's it's nice to be close to home but still have your own space I can come in here and cry can unknown me. It's great. Right, you can go be the baby. That's so funny man how's your quarantine? How are you guys doing out there? Honestly like okay it's it depending where you live in Australia I think the answer will be very different Yep in Sydney. It's been. Orion. It's we haven't had a huge amount of cases. I think yesterday we had like one case in New South Wales in. Sydney and You know Melbourne's a different story in complete lockdown I was speaking to a friend that lost not. So it's very different via bit Personally it's been it's been quite nice being off the road and hanging out with family being in the studio and making music of made more music than I ever have in my whole Korea basically because I'm just sat in this room, you know so. I'm just I guess making the best of a bad situation and just in doing everything I can. So when we get back out there one day we can keep going yeah. One hundred percent men I mean, are you do you enjoy long studio periods like this not necessarily because of these circumstances but like are you a studio guy? I am but actually never had this amount of time in his life in one studio. It's always been a laptop on the road. So it's it's a new focus that I have It feels really good and I'd like board new cables and stuff and new since and and kind of noting out of it more I'm loving people doing their live streams like especially like the. Disclosure, ones and those are crazy. It's just so amazing I. so even people like coming up and and and learning how to produce. It's so valuable by so that give back mentality I think is is Sonia. That's that's been really cool. Yeah. Disclosure one is crazy and I also like a lot of people are doing you know sort of demos submission listening feedback kinda streams. Where's Oh? Yeah. Yeah. Where people just send in things that working on our songs and they listen to it, you know live and give feedback and So the people. So it's like upset one in I'm not sure if they're gonNA listen to mind and go from there. I mean I think everyone has a different submission process, but I know like Actually, the way I found out about the disclosure stream was I was watching I don't know if you know Kenny beats he does like rap production stuff yet. Yeah. He does like a beat battle kind of thing where he'll put he'll give everyone a sample and then you have a few hours to make a beat and then he kinda ranks those and he'll have guest judges. So disclosure came on to judge that and that's yeah, people do. Stuff there's so many different things happening that. Never would have stayed out. So you look at it that way just like you gotTa, you gotTa make lemonade you know A friend of mine Lyndon J whose in a band called Faw I'm FA double I. Came, out with a song colds hush. Forget the song name but the point is He gave the instrumental out to everyone and everyone kind of had their own vibe on and like they were the singers instrumentalists and you got like two hundred submissions of people doing their own thing on this one bait Moore is really cool. I found. So it's yeah, it's a nice. It's it's a really crazy time and really sad because obviously it's tragic and people. In their lives and their jobs and all that kind of stuff. But I feel very fortunate to be in a position where it's like I can take this time to you know figure out what my next step is.

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What happens if we don't get a vaccine? This is what 'COVID normal' looks like

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03:52 min | Last month

What happens if we don't get a vaccine? This is what 'COVID normal' looks like

"Now no minute pretty much every press conference and in lots of news coverage, keep hearing this term covert normal as if as if we all know what that even means, but it's not normal right? It's not abnormal that we used to know how meant to understand what's meant by the term covid normal covered normal at the moment depends on where you live in Australia. So covered normal in Victoria as we speak is really quite a severe lockdown even with restrictions lifted covered normal in New South Wales is You know it's not quite normal life but the you know indoor activities restricted there's no compulsory mask-wearing, but there are outbreaks. State is on a bit of age. Covered normal everywhere else in Australia is getting back to almost normal life which actually puts them at risk of covid nineteen should be. Deposited into their state for some reason. Well, that's not really normal. Though is it because normal life included overseas travel and that's something that seems to be off the table indefinitely and we've had a question for one about audience members about this. What is the endgame? For Ustralia not just the states? What does the next year look like if we don't get vaccine or the vaccine that does come isn't isn't effective enough at first well, in states like new. South. Wales and Victoria covered normal if you like the end game. Assuming that the virus continues to circulate is that we don't circuit quite as much. So it's not locked on. It's just that we don't get into circumstances where a lot of people are mixing indoors, consp-, read the virus. So we're GONNA fewer contacts on a daily basis to reduce the chances of picking up the virus or spreading the virus. Covered normal, but it's not a lockdown. It's just that you to be careful. Now the question you raise a good one, but let's talk about internal borders. So what happens if you lift the border restrictions across? Australia, when the still virus in New South Wales Victoria, well, there's not much virus. So the risk of spread to those states is low but shoot actually it sprayed. Does that mean that automatically West trillions and south Australians queenslanders means etc.. Territories that they have to change their behavior and they've got to restrict how they do things by going indoors and live in a different way. and Professor James McCall, University of Melbourne argues that they don't that in fact, they're covered normal in states with Novartis circulating with Borders Darn is actually the way people are living at the moment, but there's gotta be a heightened alert to the possibility that the virus could come in. So people have got to be aware of symptoms get tested and that the public health systems go onto it in terms of getting on top of testing and contact tracing and that the if you like the protection so that you can reach retain the behavior in those states that you've got at the moment. So news wasn't Toria a degree of social distancing but not. Too drastic but in other states, you can continue the way you're going as long as you're prepared to come forward for testing in large numbers and the systems prepared to pick that up and the an example James quoted was the spread from Melbourne to kill more. So Regional Victoria said, very little corona virus people are getting back to normal much faster. But in fact, the State got on top of the coolmore outbreak and indeed the shepherd and outbreak very very quickly and go to under control without rural and regional victorians having to change their behavior they are covered normal if you like. So this is good news moving forward is that you could. Lower the borders have much freer flow of people and that the compromise for people in the states with Navarro spread at the moment is just ready to come forward for tasting and the systems got ready to respond, which is a small price to pay for tourism and families getting back together again,

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How Victoria's coronavirus response became a public health success

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03:30 min | Last month

How Victoria's coronavirus response became a public health success

"Tastier. Victorian and a great for the rest of the country because of what Victorians have been doing for the last weeks on end it's been an extraordinary lockdown and people making sacrifices for themselves for each other for their families for Victoria and for all those people who are not in Victoria, they'd be making sacrifices for the rest of the country to get this under control because it's an important thing to do for. The whole nation not just for. Victoria absolutely. So I mean we've been for cost about the coronavirus for the past few months if you haven't been paying attention and doing that, you can get a bit stuck in the weeds and we've been focusing a lot on Victoria and the spread there and the restrictions there, and the tired of that sort of taking it as a whole could be seen as quite negative but. Really it's such a success story when you think about the fact that are at hundreds and hundreds of cases just a few months ago and over the weekend, they only had one or two cases a day and it's it's due to individuals hard work. Yes. The said many many times over the months on corona cast. There's really only when you're when it's out of control, there's only one thing that you can do. That social distancing in the extreme, and that becomes a lockdown and that's what they've done. Victoria and it has brought under control as broader under control as well. If not better than any other country in the world, just looking at some of the statistics before we started this, and if you look at Singapore, which is what accorded the other day with really quite a bad outbreak in their dormitory areas for the migrant workers. That average several hundred a day. But as far as I could see. Whilst, they got two but nine, hundred a day in the first wave of the pandemic. The never got that high in the second wave. So it was steadily three, four, five, hundred a day but never seven hundred day we're got to in Victoria. They too are down at a single digits, but only Justin single digits some they've been in double digits in Singapore prior to the last few days. So Melbourne at least equal Singapore in fact, exceeds it. South. Korea's done pretty well with some significant outbreaks but again, that got up to like three, four, hundred a day, not seven, hundred a day, and that's in a country of fifty one million on their trucking along about seventy seventy today not single digits admittedly in country. That's. Eight or nine times the population of Victoria. So incredibly well by any standards and something that. Should be proud of any grateful to torrens for absolutely and of course, we're not at the finish line yet Victoria's well the whole country's and out of the woods yet in terms of the virus, and also there's still their way to go in terms of lockdown restrictions in Victoria. But it's a huge relief short for the people who live there and I'm for all of us to sort of see that Nagel really shifting down now. Yes. Some people will be saying, well, why couldn't we have gone further? Since we're a handful of cases we are recording this corona cast before we know what today's numbers are from Victoria but. Know they will be low unless there's a small outbreak somewhere and why couldn't we have gone to the same level as New South? Wales which is actually got on average more cases than. Victoria. And I think that the reason is that Victoria is still in mop-up phase and the number of mystery cases in other words cases where they don't know where you'll have caught the virus I think yesterday where the premier said, it was random about fifteen cases are still unknown that means they're still a fair bit of virus around you could possibly double that for the real number of mystery cases.

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Are we just going to have to get used to dealing with outbreaks?

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07:25 min | Last month

Are we just going to have to get used to dealing with outbreaks?

"So one of the things that Australia has really relied on throughout the hall coronavirus pandemic sci-fi is lockdown as a way of getting a handle on what's happening and keeping cases to a minimum. We've seen that really happening in Victoria and a few days ago a special envoy from the World Health Organization was talking about how lockdowns shouldn't be the only sort of tool. That countries used to Cape a handle on the coronavirus and I think that some people in Victoria have sort of used those comments from the WHO as a reason to sort of say, we should be lifting Victoria's lockdown now but it's a bit more nuanced than that. Isn't it? This nuanced? We went into lockdown in March largely to stop the growing pandemic but also to allow the infrastructure for contracting testing to get into place, which is what the WHO, who say. There was an outbreak in Victoria now that I break in Victoria would have killed many many more people had they not to lockdown but in part the outbreak was due to a failure in contracting and testing at that time. So in many ways, they fulfilled whol criteria for lockdown, which is time to get your contact tracing and testing into shape, and in fact, through the second wave in. Victoria that's indeed what they've done some situation where Victoria New South. Wales are pretty XY Pixie in terms of unknown cases number of cases a day. Sorry Pixie. What the hell does that mean some kind of Scottish thing I grew up with meeting. You know roughly equal fair fair enough trying to get a new phrase into the Australian dictionary from Scotland. Anyway. Back to the point the point being. That, you said whereas in Victoria roughly equal and the argument is probably quite well made that there's not a lot of reason why you shouldn't have the restrictions roughly the same in both states the problem of Victoria is you don't WanNa let the break off suddenly because people will just start turning up on masters include a beach which means crowding into trams, etc, etc. so you've got up. Do fairly slowly and carefully, but the endpoint quite soon could be a similar situation to New South. Wales. But we've got to get used to and it's not a trivial phrase a new covid normal. We promised a few days ago that we were going to stop comparing new, south Wales and Victoria, but let's just do it one more time new south. Wales does seem to have like you say. Exceed Pixie level of similar levels virus to what we're seeing in Victoria or at least the confirmed cases that are coming through, and they don't have as many restrictions on them, and we do know as well that it's probably at least a year before we're going to have any kind of vaccine available to that sort of like what we're thinking of as being a trigger for going back to what we used to have as a normal life is what's happening in New South. Wales. Perhaps, a model for what Ustralia could look like over the next year. Well, I think West Australians queenslanders south. Australians would bridal a that because they've got almost nothing happening and they're saying, well, why should we have? Wills has belichick focused on new, south Wales and Victoria for the moment. But I think it is something that queenslanders and others need to be cognizant off is this something we should get used to what we're talking about here for people who don't live in New South Wales is an outbreak from GP clinic now, getting used to is different from getting complacent. So yes I think you gotta get used to the fact that there will be small outbreaks but what we should not do tolerate them and so they're. They're not to be tolerated and our behavior needs to change in the short to medium term which is. Continuing careful social distancing. I believe in new. South. Wales. It should be mandatory mask in public transport just as an extra layer of security. You don't seem to be going that way and really getting on top of outbreaks and people being prepared to get tested if symptoms are in areas where there are outbreaks and if we can do that, then we can cope with these outbreaks but we can't just say. Another outbreak. Let's move on. It's another outbreak. Oh, this could be the moment where this could be the hotel quarantine equivalent moment that we hadn't. In Victoria, whereas if we ignore it is going to get out of control. So get used to not really be able to deal with yes. But just quickly on that, we're talking about being able to be responsive to outbreaks but we see in Shepperton in regional Victoria, they had a the little outbreak happening there people have told to go on to get tested they've gone to go and get tested. They've done what's been asked but they haven't been. Able to access testing this huge queues, how are we going to be out of style up to these? Well, that's for health departments to sort out, but they've got to be ready for particularly in rural and regional areas because this is something that you just need one truck driver to have arrived in a place in spread it and we've already seen somebody hiding away in trying to get into Queensland you just need one person and to move into our networks and off. So everywhere it's got to be ready and you to be ready for scale up and a plan for scale up so. Somebody throws a switch and people start with doing and they set up to prop up clinics, and within a few hours you've got it all going and that's what people have got to plan for and the best thing that can happen is you never have to institute your emergency response, but your emergency response has got to be really Schmidt and if he wants to know. More about how we've tooled up for contact tracing, how good it is, they listen to yesterday's Khurana cast with Ryan McIntyre where we covered a lot of these issues and that chat with Rhino was so interesting and there was stuff in there that we couldn't fit into yesterday's show. So we thought we'd bring it back again in prerecorded form to answer a question from Ingrid. Where Ingrid's ask if a person who has the virus uses a toilet does the next person inhale the virus spray in the toilet is flushed with the lead up and is the virus in urine faeces? Yum. This is just the sort of question that croquettes listeners love energy with toilets. Let's have a listen to yesterday's comments by Rhino McIntyre, which weren't in the krona cast. So this is a bonus we're talking about. And toilets on aeroplanes. We do know that there is a risk with closed transport vehicles with its planes buses. There's been a number of outbreaks already described on airplanes on buses and other vehicles including A. A navy ship whether it was a very, very high tech right? the Theodore Roosevelt in the US. The risk isn't just from Aerosol, droplets spread I mean we know that the highest risk isn't people sitting closest to the infected person and that's been born out in previous studies with diseases like to book your license and Maizels. But the toilet is also respected. There was one study where they were known infected people on board everybody was wearing a mosque and one of the people who became infected took the mosque off in the toilet. So we know that flushing the toilet can create aerosolize -ation. Probably. Less. So on an airplane toilet because of the nature of those toilets that don't have water swilling around, but they still would be rissole generation from the flushing action. So, the hall toilet is probably highly contaminated. So even if you wash your hands afterwards, you could breathe in contaminated aerosols than when you come out even just touching the door handle would be a risk. So that's that's probably one of the real hot spots on an airplane. That was Professor Rhino McIntyre who is professor of global biosecurity at Curbing University of New South Wales

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"new south wales" Discussed on KQED Radio

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02:14 min | 11 months ago

"new south wales" Discussed on KQED Radio

"In New South Wales state she said she and some of her animals escape from a wild fire by a river boat the area we wish sheltering was on fire then we could save the property thirty from the front and we already knew what was around the back and the sides and if we didn't have that revolves I'm not even sure we've been yeah Australian officials say the wild fires have killed hundreds of millions of birds and other animals you're listening to NPR news from Washington Porter Rico remains under a state of emergency following a series of earthquakes over the past several days one person has been killed and several others have been injured buildings have collapsed and most of the island still does not have power back because of the power outages governor one of Moscow's warns that at least three hundred thousand Porter Rican customers do not have drinking water preliminary data show that U. S. greenhouse gas emissions fell in twenty nineteen thanks to a drop in the power sector Wyoming public radio is Cooper McCann reports emissions are down two point one percent several major coal producers filed for bankruptcy last year including two in Wyoming the largest coal producing states analysts Trevor Hauser says the drop in coal consumption was the biggest factor in reducing emissions by levels increased in other areas and it buildings transportation and industry we've yet to see the development low carbon technologies at sufficient scale to lead to large scale reduction in emissions Hauser co authored the report for rhodium group an independent research provider he says at this rate the US is not on pace to meet the goals set forth in several international climate agreements for NPR news I'm Cooper macam the National Weather Service has growing confidence a large winter storm will hit the east coast by Friday the services that may include tornadoes and hail from Texas through other parts of the south and flooding in the Ohio and Tennessee valleys some states that are farther north we'll get wintry precipitation I'm korva Coleman NPR news support for NPR comes from NPR stations.

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"new south wales" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM

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"new south wales" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM

"In Australia the wild fires continue to ravage New South Wales with thousands of evacuations Michelle Franzen ABC news and now que to weather brought to you by standard TV and appliance we are off to another start on Sunday with more rain on the way that should be tapering back just a little bit in the afternoon hours mid forties for daytime highs another round of rain feeds off Monday turning to showers of for the early part of Tuesday and then more rain developing again Tuesday into Wednesday with key to storm tracker weather I merry lows and I heart radio station eleven ninety K. E. X. available everywhere with I heart radio now number one eleven ninety now use your guest does Richard Serret welcome back say hello on Twitter at Richard Serra S. why because I love U. R. E. double T. BB king and Van Morrison if you Love Me I'm gonna send that out to my lovely bride the mighty Aphrodite I was feeling a little under the weather these days she's battling a cold like a lot of you I'm sure the European union's patent office has issued a new ruling rejecting to patent application submitted on the behalf of artificial intelligence programs that's right a robot the two inventions were created as part of a multi disciplinary research project organized at the university of Surrey in the United Kingdom the researchers used an artificial intelligence called Jabba's or device for the autonomous bootstrapping of unified sentence Jabba's created two unique usable ideas that were submitted to patent that the patent office the first was a new kind of beverage a container and the second was a signal device to help search and rescue teams locate.

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"new south wales" Discussed on WCPT 820

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03:10 min | 1 year ago

"new south wales" Discussed on WCPT 820

"From New South Wales and Victoria thirty four of which are out of control that means firefighters can not get a good handle in advance of these fires so this is incredible on just the amount of smoke in the integrated air that is taking place and by the way on satellite imagery we're seeing the smoke drift into the South Island of New Zealand residence there had to turn on their lights in the middle of the day because the smog and the smoke was so thick this week's attack on the embassy in Baghdad is because Dr state Mike Pompeii ale the way his trip to Ukraine and for other countries he was supposed to arrive in Ukraine late Thursday for his first visit to the country which is at the center of president trump's impeachment it was set to meet with your cranes president and reaffirm American support for Ukrainian sovereignty on the condition of one of the stabbing victims during that hundreds of services described as dire was want to bring Jim grass is an update he may not regain consciousness he is still unconscious from this attack over the weekend and he may not regain consciousness and even if he did he may suffer for it from severe brain damage so really just horrific outcome in this family Sir at rather this community is certainly well aware of how he's doing and even raising funds are trying to get about a hundred thousand dollars just in this community alone to help not only him but all the families who face injuries in this attack from the late Bobby Kristina brown has died Nick Gordon was blamed for brown's death after she was found unresponsive in a bathtub in twenty fifteen along so her family including singer Bobby brown accused Gordon of giving her a toxic cocktail because of Gordon's death has not been released Francis the sea Chicago's progressive talk eight twenty eight AM W. C. P. T. willow springs and online at W. C. P. T. twenty dot com where facts matter closing reminds us regularly about the significance of this moment in history she says sometimes you choose the moment and sometimes the moment chooses you and my sisters and brothers is moments eighty eight twenty four fax math around the town Chicago I've always said is seeing the play again does it mean you're seeing a play you get when you see a movie and you see it's always the same when you have a different director or a different cast of characters in a different stage everything changes it's a new production on Sunday afternoons at two eighteen twenty let's be on the national symphony may not be in his future but he wanted to try a violin so you said yes because you love and if you love him that much love them enough to make sure he's buckled up and in the backseat find out more about keeping your kids safe in your vehicle N. H. T. S. A. dot gov slash the right see shown you love him keep them safe.

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"new south wales" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

03:50 min | 1 year ago

"new south wales" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"In New South Wales has called for a mass exodus from an area which is hugely popular in the current summer holiday season shama Khalili's their differences highway is the only access for out of town on the southern coast of New South Wales these are the coastal holiday towns that have been devastated by the fires on new year's eve this road now looks like a huge parking lot I'm looking at a long row of vehicles that just seems endless but more crucially it's not moving it's not going anywhere the conditions around us are still quite dangerous we've had electricity poles brings out trees collapse on the road that is caused closures in different directions there's been widespread criticism of the Israeli prime minister's decision to request from parliament immunity from prosecution in three cases in which he is charged with bribery and fraud Benjamin Netanyahu said the charges against him were politically motivated but his main rival banning guns at the prime minister was attempting to make himself above the law the world of basketball has been paying tribute to its former US national association commissioner David stern who died on Wednesday aids seven to seven which it holds looks back at his career David stern was a lawyer and businessman who was involved in basketball for more than fifty years he took charge of the sport in nineteen eighty four and during his thirty years in office so the sports revenues increased more than thirty fold he also ushered in a huge expansion of the sports television coverage during the nineteen nineties and two thousands the current NBA commissioner Adam silver paid tribute to David stern saying that his leadership of one of America's most popular sports have turned the game into a truly global brand world news from the BBC flooding in the Indonesian capital Jakarta is now known to have killed at least sixteen people there were more heavy downpours there on Wednesday night and residents are bracing for another influx of water from nearby towns the authorities in China are reported to have rounded up at least a dozen dissidents and human rights lawyers around the country the monitors say the crackdown began a week ago the B. B. C.'s Dave marsh has more according to statements from the two groups the wave of detentions targeted rights lawyers academics and other activists who met privately in Fujian province a leave in December one rights group said those detained was suspected variously of subversion provoking trouble they include Ding Jesse a veteran pro democracy activist and disponibiliza who's advocated working within the Chinese system for political change another activist is reportedly on the run after posting a new year message urging his compatriots to take action to change China March reporting the time when he is chief of staff general Shaul meaning it is missing after the helicopter in which she was flying made what the ministry of defense called an emergency landing ten people including all the senior military officers have been rescued from the crash site in the mountainous will lonely district in the north of the island authorities say the search for general shown was continuing new figures published by a Dutch aviation consultancy have shown that the number of people killed in large airliner crashes fell by more than fifty percent and twenty nineteen two hundred and fifty seven people were killed last year more than half of those fatalities coming in the Ethiopian airlines crash in March the figures show that there was a fatal accident you never five and a half million flights made that's the latest BBC world news you're listening to the news to him from.

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"new south wales" Discussed on WRVA

WRVA

02:49 min | 1 year ago

"new south wales" Discussed on WRVA

"In New South Wales this person lives there and he says that there the fire is just going crazy depending on weather wind comes back or not it's going to be tricky excerpts from interviews with platoon members calling fellow navy seal Eddie Gallagher toxic evil accusing him of targeting civilians including children in Iraq in a new documentary from The New York Times Gallagher was found not guilty of war crimes president trump is stop the navy review and restore his rank A. B. C.'s will car he says that he was initially surprised and disgusted when it's all those videos but says when he thought about it for a while he did not think those accounts under tough questioning tonight he points to his acquittal this is vindication legendary in pioneering radio shock jock don Imus dead at seventy nine back in the day in New York he noted that he had quit or been fired a lot during part about being here you're supposed to the only you're listening to ABC news Carlson financial we were talking with Carl Carlson the other day this man is brilliant absolutely brilliant he's helping the sole many people get ready for and then you can fill in the blank see a lot of times you all well you know he's he's get helping people get ready for retirement well he is helping some people get ready for retirement he's helping other people manage their wealth he's helping other people get ready to take care of other family members you know for those of us that have special needs kids especially you got to think about all of that Carl is the guy that has dedicated his entire life to financial services any focuses in a couple of areas we are so lucky to have him here in Richmond if you're thinking about tax planning and with the new year AA everybody's thinking about new tax implications maybe you've changed jobs maybe your going in a slightly different direction maybe you've got a you've got an IRA or four oh one K. that you're looking to roll over he will help you with that planning that is state life insurance everybody's got to have some sort of life insurance in place mortgages you know mortgages are on most people think all I can't wait to pay off the mortgage and sometimes believe it or not it's a good thing to have a mortgage I could go on and on and on but I will tell you that the regular basis he does these wonderful wine and wisdom of banshee get together with him there's dinner there's drinks and little little presentational what's going on currently in the financial world he's right here in the west end like twin hickory twin hickory and knuckles you know by now buy ins broke listen I I don't want to tell you everything I want you to get the details you need so why don't you call Carl Carlson's office over Carlson financial it's.

New South Wales
"new south wales" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

01:42 min | 1 year ago

"new south wales" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"In New South Wales warned third lives and homes would be at risk with no let up in the high temperatures strong winds and low humidity a powerful cyclone has killed several people as it hit the border region between India and Bangladesh India reported two deaths qualities three Bangladeshis were killed by falling trees about two million people spent the night in storm shelters a cyclone Google made landfall between India's cigar islands and capoeira in Bangladesh the British internet stock K. aside has beaten his American rival the can pour in a much hyped boxing match in Los Angeles the two celebrities who have huge followings on social media will walk away with prize money of more than eight hundred thousand dollars each annex Richmond has this report the battle to crown the toughest internet personality round the full six rounds and ended in a points victory for the British you cheap stock KSI the balance was a grudge rematch which followed to drool forces Amasis in Manchester last year prior to his boxing career KSI made his name uploading videos of himself playing the computer game FIFA Logan pool previously made headlines when he filmed himself discovering a suicide victim in Japan whether the fight was Randall just on for the publicity the TV revenues are estimated by some pundits at more than a hundred million pounds I was Alex Ritson reporting BBC news welcome to in the balance this week coming to you from the city of Kilkenny in Ireland and the home of the kill economics economics and comedy festival I'm Laurie cassman judge we.

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"new south wales" Discussed on KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO

KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO

01:36 min | 1 year ago

"new south wales" Discussed on KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO

"Right now just brothers the weekend is the first team to lose its first game at the series and win the world title for CBS New South Wales for Pennsylvania traffic and weather together every ten minutes on the fives at four fifty five let's check in with style but I think our tipsters for checking in really dependent on you this morning that's for sure the four oh five north at Wilmington there's a car fire and just reported in before the CHP could get it want to thank you very much but I ask that person to call nine one one and I'm seeing some slowing right now before the seven ten on the southbound side of the four oh five approaching Wilmington Avenue this car is fully involved and let's hope that everything's okay there let's hope everything's okay on the southeast side of the downtown loop there this is on the one on one north before fourth street and a this is a disabled car does have its hazards on but do look out that's right after he everyone shocking for position between the five of the one one headed up towards the the a San Fernando free December Dino freeway so just be aware of that then also we have this crash in diamond bar the westbound sixty between the fifty seven a break canyon road CHP has all lanes blocked this is for a disabled vehicle that was struck and a single are still in Glendale eagle rock the north bound to is closed until further notice between the one thirty four and the two ten that's for the brush fire yesterday next reports coming up at four five oh five I'm least hours were traffic reports were often can extend seventy newsradio look for sunny skies today and highs in the upper sixties to mid seventies of the beaches eighties to around ninety inland it's sixty seven degrees in Culver city.

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"new south wales" Discussed on The Bobby Bones Show

The Bobby Bones Show

03:13 min | 1 year ago

"new south wales" Discussed on The Bobby Bones Show

"Yeah. And I bought girl scout cookies from Honey, boo. Boo. One time online online and we wanted to supporter. Yeah. Good for you me, and mama June got into it. Because I thought they stole my money because it took like a month for me get the cookies and so to Twitter Twitter beef, and she put all my personal information out on Facebook. And. Got you. You start finding mama June. June on my look it's a scam. They don't really give you because it took over a month for my cookies to arrive. And so she heard me talk about it or salt on Twitter, and she went on their personal Facebook page where they have hundreds of thousands of people that follow them. And she wrote all my personal information out there. What does that mean your personal your real name address phone number on that? All out there. Great this idiot thinks he can go on their spread false. Rumors about me, and my family, we when you buy from for us. You get the cookies as you wrote a long pose. And I was like oh my gosh. Had just got the cookies. So me June got into it. I keep you posted your home address. Yes. How long ago was this? This is five years. Yeah. I thought it was so exciting to buy cookies from Honey, boo, boo. And then it turns south because I thought they still my money, and then it went real south because mama June got mad at me. So how did you feel when you saw the story? I was let down I was shocked I- mama June. Seems like just a cool fund. Mom, like I didn't ever see her going down this route. But I guess that's what happens. I mean. Her boyfriend's been in trouble with the law in the past. And I don't know I a good news story to kind of wrap this up, please. This guy has phone say Ehrler tack his his cellphone who would tax people. They're an Australian man that's under. Under. John stopped an aero from hitting him as he came under attack in New South Wales. It someone had a bow shot into the phone. Oh, wow. So good that crazy. Yeah. There your wind on that attack. Attack. That's a positive moment June. She looks so sad in the back of the sheriff. Oh, you know, what's funny about the mama June stories? They have sheriffs truck with bars on it. That's pretty cool. Big truck lets your wrestler pretty cool truck. There's that. Jerry Lewis, fifth wife, dead sitting Nancy dead, Kurt cobaine. Also, Courtney love insane. Johnny cash. I turn abusive in XXX ten Pacione. Amy wine house completely off the rails. Disgrace land is a rock and roll true crime podcast about musicians getting away with murder behaving very badly. This hosted by me, Jake Brennan, I drew up in round rock and roll. In the one thing, I know to be absolutely true. Is that real Rockstars parties? Sane more like feral, nurses, animals functioning members of society in this is precisely what makes them so damn entertaining to pot big Marvin Gaye James Brown. John Lennon g Alan stones and the Hells Angels running security and a dead kid on the dance floor. These stories and more are all waiting for you in disgrace. Like listen to disgrace Santa the iheartradio.

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"new south wales" Discussed on This Day in History Class

This Day in History Class

05:24 min | 1 year ago

"new south wales" Discussed on This Day in History Class

"The day was February fifteen seventeen ninety six. John Caesar who had the nickname black Caesar was shot dead. After escaping his settlement in Australia. Caesar was a Bush ranger. In fact, he's thought to be Australia's I wish ranger Bush. Rangers were convicts in outlaws who took to the Australian Bush to avoid capture and punishment. Not all of them were violent, but Bush Rangers did become known as bandits who robbed stage coaches and banks and killed people. Many people came to romanticize Bush Rangers for their rebellion and anti-authoritarian them, but Caesar only had a reputation for his theft and pinton for escaping his confines in the late seventeen seventy s English captain James, Cook, tarted eastern, Australia and claimed it for the British crown dubbing it New, South Wales. And soon after the British began colonizing New South Wales in January of seventeen eighty eight the first fleet that had left England. The previous year arrived at botany bay on the east coast of Australia. There are likely several reasons for the move. Britain's population was growing it's prisons couldn't accommodate everybody who was sentenced in America was no longer accepting transported criminals. And the land was prime real estate for Britain expand the empire set up a base in the region and claim the territory against other places that might cloth for that possession. Regardless of the motives behind the Conan's ation Britain sent eleven vessels in the first fleet, including fix transport that held hundreds of convicts the plan was to put the convicts to work on government farms. When the British realized that the land at botany bay wasn't sufficient for their plans, they moved north in a stabbing. A penal colony in port Texan at Sydney cove, John Blake Caesar was one of the convicts who were sent to New South Wales in the first fleet. Caesar's exact ancestry is it known. But it is known that Caesar was of African descent Caesar was possibly born in Madagascar or America as one historian notes, but he later moved to England and became a servant. In seventeen eighty six when he was somewhere around twenty two or twenty three years old John was charged with stealing money and sentenced to transportation or banishment. To a penal colony for seven years he was imprisoned on the ship. The Alexander and sent away to Australia in seventeen eighty seven. Caesar was described as a hard worker, but troublesome. And so we're many of the convicts who's lived in harsh conditions in a struggling colony among indigenous peoples who were not all welcoming of the British immigrants in their problems. In April of seventeen eighty nine. China was once again tried for theft at the criminal court. But this time he was sentenced to a life term of transportation that meant he was destined to live out the rest of his days in subjugation in Australia. So Caesar fled and took refuge in the Bush or as Lieutenant governor David Collins, put it at the time Caesar head quote, take into the woods with some provisions an iron pot in a soldier's musket, which he had found means to steal. Caesar was soon caught in sin to work at garden island in chains. But that wouldn't be his last getaway Caesar was a character for sure a fact make clear by contemporary descriptions of him Collins said the following about Caesar in his book an account of English colony in New South Wales. This man was always reputed, the hardest working convict in the country. His frame was muscular and will calculate it for hard labor. But in his intellects, he did not vary widely differ from a brute his appetite was ravenous for he could in any one day devour the full ration for two days to gratify this appetite. He was compelled to steal from others in all his thefts were directed to that purpose. He was such a rich in so indifferent about meeting death that he declared while inconvenient that. If he should be hanged Hewitt create a left before he was turned off by playing off some trick upon executioner. That same year fever was allowed to work without chains. And he escaped in a stolen canoe with a gun. He tried to make do in the Bush by robbing gardens threatening aborigines and taking their food, but the aborigines ended up spearing him and he returned to camp in early seventeen ninety in March Caesar was sent to Norfolk Island where he got land in hog the next year he was given one acre or nearly.

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"new south wales" Discussed on Airplane Geeks Podcast

Airplane Geeks Podcast

02:37 min | 2 years ago

"new south wales" Discussed on Airplane Geeks Podcast

"Boy, I had a fantastic time. I couldn't have had more fun and met more wonderful people and had a better time commented afterwards, if I resigned to leave the US, I think I'll move to Australia v people were fabulous. It was great. So by the way, I flew Qantas on their seven forty seven and. And I was just such a great experience. I was in the premium economy section, which is you know, three down if you will from the boats, expensive and it worked out great. I had to empty seats next to me both ways I slept reasonably well in both directions and from jet lag standpoint. Yeah, I felt a little tired one day when I got there. But that was about it. So it was really pretty easy travel for thirteen and a half hour flight I did fly with the four different pilots and their aircraft for the Sears pilot proficiency event that was held there. In orange New South Wales about four hours drive west of Sydney, and after that, I spent a couple of days in Sydney with friends, and it just had a great time writing the ferries around the city looking at all the different sites that after that, I drove down two hours for two days about four hours south toward Pebble Beach, which is a national park and just kind of hung out and recuperated a little bit writing a lot of fun. But I gotta say I had. Invitations from multiple people saying here, come see me here. And I'll take you flying in my helicopter, come here. I'll take you flying in my pits come here. And you know, we'll go out on my boat. Just so many offers from really kind wonderful people that it it gave me the most possible favorable impression that that you could have. So I only saw just a tiny tiny tiny part of the country. But I'm anxious to go back there again sometime, but when I got back here, I found that the San Francisco Bay area as the worst air quality of anywhere in the world. And it's been that way for over a week. Now, I've only been back home now about four days, but for the weekend was gone. We've been running visibilities of three miles in less. In fact, at my home airport, visibility has not been better than two miles since I got back. It's been running one and a half to two miles, and that's just because of heavy particular matter from the campfire blowing into our area. Now, the campfire I haven't met. Should it? But I'm sure it's more than a hundred miles away a line of sight. But that's how have we the smoke is one hundred miles down wind of visibility is just absolutely awful. And I found a interesting resource mentioned to people if you go out to purple air dot com. So the color purple.

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"new south wales" Discussed on Inside Supercars

Inside Supercars

05:06 min | 2 years ago

"new south wales" Discussed on Inside Supercars

"It's been a home run in two ways on the racetrack. Also, building our brand here in Australia at our business finish festival secondary. Is I thought. Which was. Before. Spider rice. And you can't really just look at the Las rice of the you have to look at it starts ends gossip. But from the rice treks across the strategy at he is inside super cos-. Workum during child circus's, Craig Valentine's as we hit into the Saint season funnel of the VIP to championship. It's going to be attorney weekend creek. It will be tiny. It's always great to see a championship come down to the wire. And just think if it can be exciting as the WAC was lost weekend up on the cuffs coast destination. New South Wales, we'll have had a very very profitable motorsport experience over the past two weeks in Dade and could it be something? You're like the two thousand seventeen them at Newcastle. I doubt that. With the Cps attended a great. We never year. But the J Ken Newcastle. Do it is is a huge question. I've I've got a feeling one way or the other. I think it's decided on Saturday in day in day. Well, it's been a fascinating built up to this rice is a whole bunch of things that are still not settled even though the 'nother weeks time. The season will be out of that. Obviously being built for the new year. But we've got whole bunch of different teams such as Winterbottom and ticket pricing safely invade draw the lineup Brooke who's obviously done. Very. Well. She fortunately, I think we've got air of his they've settled on their to van tone banking up for another season. You've got to the saints it Kelly racing. Kelly motorsport still to be finalized as well as branch houses driver. Of course, he's decided to step down. So there are a lot of things certainly still in the air. Yes. I don't know have that's all going to pan out. And we'll certainly see over the next couple of days. One man was speaking to lighter on in the show is Scott pie. And I know you've been doing the numbers there and he's had a season best finish. And. Yes. Sorry. He's gonna have heavies bass David season. Since he's been in. So because he's driven of course, was three for change in that time. But. Welcome choose or to full they walk enjoy Andretti. United have done a very good job. James, gordon? He's had some bad luck along the white. But Scott who sent me shown on a number of occasions, and you get again, the shot himself to a driver whose father will raise future coming up. So we're him Scott pie that a wonderful moment as a different world because he's not a full-time rice. Dr he's gonna Jan business. That'll be interesting on Moore about the other interesting thing about this weekend is it's the last hurrah for the falcon tiny, and it's had a interesting existence. Of course for a while. They didn't say a falcon on a trick strain Jerry catch championship because you could get a Mustang or a Sierra do a much better job much cheaper for you. Well, fortunately, that's case lost twenty years. But now with the falcon coming up being produced in this country. It certainly is leaning towards where we're buying an imported Commodore and you can go buy a big Ford. You've got to buy small forward you want to sit and we buy Mustang, and certainly that's going to be fantastic because is enormous amount of development being happening with the Mustang with plenty of drivers jumping out and having a panel, which leads to TCI there's lots of developments in that category as well. Yes, the launch at Eastern Creek. We saw that along with the Superfly thousands to I should mention of the super five thousand and Chaz Mostert in getting some lexin. They're one of the quotes that I took a lot of white from his they're actually quite comparable to a JT three in terms of Dr a set of section that is a a huge statement in mon- line that could. See an interesting an interesting opportunity there for drivers who want to have that experience. But don't have the JT three budget James Moffet was in a Honda Civic, which David Wohl racing had worked on some of the preparations for it. You look you'll was driving in the Volvo..

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"new south wales" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

11:06 min | 2 years ago

"new south wales" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"You go underground, you could be travelling to six kilometers from the bottom. So usually when you could Dona main you will get on a train underground trains. Teague? If about half earning walking for twenty minutes to half, not actually get the goldfish. And if this had been one hundred years ago conditions for that mine, and we just heard would have been considered luxurious. Hello, I'm Roger data and welcome to the forum where experts share their knowledge with us in today's program. We'll be looking at coal and those who dig for it this humble black rock that has led hundreds of thousands of miners to risk their lives in the cause of fuelling industrial revolutions and powering empires. And whilst this lump of energy has been the catalyst for unprecedented, wealth and material comfort. It's also brought devastating pollution and scarred. Landscapes joining me to discuss the history of coal and its legacy are from South Africa. Don't of Mattew from Gibbs university of Pretoria in Johannesburg. Dr schilling Xiaowu, a specialist on China and author of empires of coal, the American environmental lawyer Barbara freeze who's written coal a human history and Darren count the manager of Kent mining. Museum in southeast England. Welcome all. And now you each represent four countries that have been hugely involved in the coal trade briefly. Let me ask you all how his cO shaped the destiny of your own country. Darren how about the UK I think you compare coal back in the day as the same as uranium and plutonium now it should actively. It was that the wonder fuel of his age. And if you go back three four hundred years, the UK was probably the the seat of technology and developing the use of coal, you're right. The way through to the eighteen fifties nine thousand nine hundred and exporting that technology around the world as well and its peak in the early twentieth century, we're talking about huge amount of coal coming up in this country, yet ninety nine hundred thirteen two hundred ninety two million tons of coal and about a third of that cold actually been exported around the world as well. And Barbara give me a couple of examples of the difference coal is made to the USA. Well, coal certainly made an enormous impact on the United States. It brought about our industrial development at a time when we were a very young country without many institutions actually built. So it had a huge effect in shaping our corporate structures, our labor structures, and it played a major role, for example in the north winning the civil war. How did they do that? It did that because the north really was the seat of industrial production and the north had something like a thirty eight to one advantage over the south in coal production that meant it could have more factories produce more iron produce, more guns and more railways, and obviously that played a major role in winning the war and chilling. Tell me how is Cole connected to Chinese history and culture Chinese have mind call for several thousand years, but in the last century the possession of. Large deposits of coal really field. China's rise in the recent decades is rise as an economic superpower. So that today China uses more coal than the rest of the countries in the world combined and of South Africa is a big producer of coal. How how's it affected your country? I the Corby produce twenty five percent is exported. That's great developmentally. Now, our DP, and we have got a lot of poor people in this country who depend on Roku for cooking and heating the pace that is something which if there's no coed don't know how these people survive, and we only have coins Africa. We don't have co in many other. Parts of the continent. And it has been the unique. And I believe that even today South Africa has the biggest export terminal for coal in the world. Yes, we have the biggest called, Tom. No. At least as vehicle and we are getting crews followed out by the protocol Newcastle in New South, Wales, straight it. Okay. Well, let's take a closer look at this black stuff. What is coal exactly? And how's it formed? Barbara told me not because it can arrived in cool the carbon different age, and that was the time when vegetation came onto land in and gave the planet millions of years of stored energy. Yes, the carbon Niffer was hundreds of millions of years ago. It was a time when there were some lush forests finally covering the continents. And it was also a time where geologic forces had not lifted up the land, very high. So as for example, the polar ice caps. Melted. Or we froze and there were climate changes way back then water would step forward and cover the forests and then retreat again in the forest would would March forward again in the course of that process. These forests would be buried by water and sediment, and so the natural processes of decay did not occur. So all of the carbon that those forests had absorbed as they grew and all of the energy that they had absorbed from the sun ended up getting buried and slowly slowly compressed and turning into Pete. And then to various forms of coal, some call has been produced since then, but that was the era when most of it was produced now, I'm actually holding a piece of cola here in my hand, needless to say, it's actually dirty. My my hand ready, but it is kind of beautiful in its own special way. And there are different types on their this piece is from a former coalfield in Newcastle in the northeast of England. Darren just explained to me what I've got here and the different kinds of coal that also exist. What you've got what looks like bitchiness co. So that's what we'd core a middling coal. So would use that for producing coal gas for coking for other industrial processes for heating. But then you've got the the much harder the anthracite coal, which are really dense. They're really actually really hard to light. But the ironic thing about anthracite coal once you've got it burning. You have a difficulty putting out, and there's many stories of coal forest, particularly in American Barbara could probably pick up on that places like Centralia, which is a very famous case where these coalfires of bone for years and abandoned towns, and then we've got the very the younger coaster the lick nights, the Brown coals, and that's the sort of coal they produce in Poland, for instance, as well. So it's a very very dirty coal actually will the anthracite scribble come into play later on when we talk about the USA. You're right. We know Barbara that Cole was formed in our pre. Prehistoric past. But what are the first recorded uses of coal by humans. Well surprise. It will be one of the earliest uses and this was in ancient China some six thousand years ago, or so was carving. They found the call to be very beautiful, and there's evidence some archaeologists have found something they called Neolithic ear piercing ornaments. And so they were carving the coal. They were wearing the coal. And this also happened in Britain during the Roman era. Call became famous and was written about by the Romans as something that could be carved into jewelry. An interesting about where you believe it was cold that made China a superpower as early as the eleventh century. Yes, there was a an amazing period of a kind of military industrialization that took place in ancient China about a thousand years ago. China had already been very advanced in its iron production and about a thousand years ago, they figured out how they could use coal to produce iron, which was a little tricky. But they they did figure it out. And at the time they were fighting off invaders horseback riding invaders, and and they militarize to the extent that they would have thousands of workers producing with iron, and with coal thousands of spears and swords and shields something even called horse decapitating swords. So it was a pulse of industrialization made possible by coal, and in now since China, I suppose was way ahead of what Britain achieved several centuries. Later, and we'll come to that in a second. But just staying with China in the seventeenth century their commanding was so prevalent, it even made its way into the writing of the time is that right? So this is a scholar named Sony. Shing he was born in the late sixteenth century. And unlike many of the scholars of the time he also paid acute attention to many of the crafts that he saw in his travels observing the uses of call in various crafts for on porcelain making to metallurgy, and he also described various methods of coal mining, including the uses of bamboo pipes to pipe out poison gas into us s ventilation in coal mines now by this time Darren seventeenth century. It wasn't just China using coal. Tell me why countries would were turning to it to us for fuel. We've got a whole series of things going on during the Cromwell in peer too. That's the period in British history where you've got the civil war, and there's a predominance of charcoal law the sort of the. Biproduct of charcoal burning from timber is used for metalworking for I'm production, and that's a really precious resource. The woods would disappearing so quickly in the south of Britain that there was an act of pollen stopping them from doing this because there wasn't enough which to build warships anymore. So there's this going on. And then also you've got in the middle of Britain playschool, coal brookdale, the Darby start experimenting with colza means of producing all in as well. So there's a whole series of different socio economic and industrial things happening at the same time in different pressures pushing everyone towards coop pointed only really been the northeast of Britain where they've been a lot of co exported, but we're not just talking about right now we were talking about other parts of the world other parts of Europe. Oh, yes. Because of the forest depletion. Yes. The early coalfields in northern France in Belgium, they slowly start develop Germany as well. Because there's a realization gradually that there's. Colin Mambi belts across northern and western Europe. So they start to work on idea. Well, let's look at the UK which is associated with the dramatic technological developments. Brought about by coal from the eighteenth century onwards. And Cole was transforming cities from Newcastle to London to Manchester..

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"new south wales" Discussed on Monocle 24: Midori House

Monocle 24: Midori House

03:01 min | 2 years ago

"new south wales" Discussed on Monocle 24: Midori House

"For example, only in the last Dale to the prime minister of Kosova has decided not to travel to the Serb anklet. They've in Bosnia for a conference because the leader of that half state of the Serb enclaves said, you would not be welcome here. I cannot guarantee your scar in danger. Of losing every listener. This point. This is this is one of the problems with Balkan disputes. They are immensely complex and they all totally incomprehensible to anybody who lives outside the region. It doesn't mean that they don't matter to the people who live there to return to this particular dispute. How angry are the payer review about the ongoing impudent existence of a place called New England. It's taken a while to get used to the idea, but I just there's just this whole bunch of Americans without so much as a by your leave insist. They live in a place called New England. They've even got a football to this day. I still think the rebels, but. The country further away, which has a worrying number of English names that it's claimed for citizens owns South Wales. Well, this is exactly my point as a native son of New South Wales myself. I am not aware that AllState has ever received a single complaint from the people of South Wales. If you were right next to the fine people of South Wales might be different. The implication is they are owed South Wales and we know nobody wants to be owed southwards you raise you raise a slightly serious point, but I think what we're all missing is the ethnic dimension. There is a very strong ethnic quays. I religious dimension to the disputes in the Balkans and that my my only perspective on it is a brilliant politician. Tito was to hold this lot together. Is is, is the just a final thought on this roll benistead seriously though, a reputational aspect for Greece here because this this tells tend to make Greece appears somewhat. I don't know petty. We could see well, the the, the Greek government I think would love to move on from this. I mean, as you suggest, they got one or two other problems on their plate, and they would love to be regarded once again as a serious country into series member of the European Union. If they can get this done and the Gaumont at least thinks it has got a formula can live within. They can move on. There are some Greeks in in the Greek region of Macedonia, and there are some Macedonians in north Macedonia who don't like the deal. We will see whether their governments convince them. Otherwise, we'll finally tonight to New York City. Very thousand p that little has been learned about encouraging. People were the notoriety principally to starring in dreadful television programs to stand for public office. Cynthia Nixon alumnus of sex, and the city is challenging governor Andrew Cuomo for the democratic party's gubernatorial nomination in a primary on I and I thank her at least for that'll put unity to say gubernatorial on air..

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"new south wales" Discussed on The Science Show

The Science Show

03:57 min | 2 years ago

"new south wales" Discussed on The Science Show

"Professor. Darren Kono is a paleo anthropologist from the university of New South Wales. We join him on the hunt for human fossils in the Borneo rainforest. Human. Amazing place that we've been working at court, the caves, some of the largest as in southeast Asia, the biggest one, the cycle, west mouth in this massive complex is so big that you can fit for jumbo jet since almost. And it's a place where people been going for a long time today. You have local non men who climb up these bamboo poles and click the business business traded across southeast Asia. The traditional made Senate almost half of making soup and for restaurants. It's also one of the most iconic archaeological sites in south East Asia. I guess they most famous discovery was human scou- could the deep scowl which has been daily to about thirty five thousand years old until very recently provided the earliest physical evidence that we had for the earliest modern humans from Auburn, south East Asia, the deep scar fossil was on earth in the nineteen fifties. They have been other teams that have gone in reinvestigated view. Early pioneering work done by Tom and Barbara Harrison, but house really do market new Faye. Phase in the history of NIA and the first paleolithic digs that are being done in the cave in fifty years after leaving Africa modern humans sprayed across the globe, but fossils have only been found at a handful of sites in southeast Asia as of last year. There's a study from Indonesia that suggests that people like us, modern humans. I arrived perhaps spoon about sixty and seventy thousand years ago. So these are the ancestors of the indigenous people across south East Asia and Australia, New Guinea's world. One of the big questions for internationally is who were the first humans to live in an environment like rainforests rainforest, surprisingly challenging places for togethers to presently. We have only one site that provides any information for about this very murky period of history and try this cave is a site that offers us that potential to provide new information about this very important chapter. Now. Evolutionary history at the same time. Modern humans may have been moving through the region. There was a major volcanic eruption on the Indonesian island of Sumatra just seventeen hundred kilometers to the west of Barnea just before the time that more than humans get into southeast Asia. We have the largest volcanic eruption that's happened on the planet in the last two million years. This is the so-called Tober super option. It happened about seventy four thousand years ago. The massive explosion showered the globe in Ashish today. The eruption is marked by lake toba in North Sumatra if they were people living in the area at the time, including at NIA caves that they would have been dramatically affected by this super option that actually probably plans the planet into a nuclear winter that may of last month's peps longer. It's been for a long time that in a way, the super option laid the foundation for more than humans to come in after that, then. It kind of like put the Bruins through the neighborhood if you like an got rid of many of the, there are cake. Humans living, they got rid of them. So one of the things that we obviously looking forward and try to save his evidence for the super option and trying to find evidence of whether humans were there before. And of course, we certainly do have evidence for them thereafter. This massive event. Professor Curnow is co leading the excavation in Borneo with members of the Sarah walk museum. Our approach is always going much to work with locals. And in fact, we have a joint team with a Sarut museum where we work together. We run the project. We dig together each day just after sunrise. The team said off for the cave..

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"new south wales" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Briefing

Monocle 24: The Briefing

04:36 min | 2 years ago

"new south wales" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Briefing

"The glorious reign just never comes femme is a saying, this is the worst drought in living memory in New South Wales and Queensland ninety percent of New South Wales and two-thirds of Queensland went out drought and pastas attorney to rebel, fizzle these horrific photographs of livestock with the bone sticking through the skin, and the cost of feed is skyrocketing. So these farmers is sort of saying they're facing ruin and they want recognition, especially from the richest areas where people maybe don't realize what's happening out in the countryside and what imagines it's incumbent on politicians, of course to show some leadership after Necker choice for not having plans to prepare for this and ludicrously almost some frontline and leading politicians in Australia actually sidetracked with frankly, ridiculous story. Well, they should be they're always on the big picture because he's very serious as you said, Malcolm Turnbull. He's still attracting some negative headlines. Full story. Some so ridiculous. Well, maybe remind us about remind us about the origins of this one. Well, this is cold hashtag pie gate, of course. And and Malcolm Turnbull. The Australian Prime minister is falling in a long tradition of world leaders who are have embarrassed themselves with the way they eat food that solves see President Trump eighteen KFC with a knife and fork. There's admitted bans clumsy attempt to eat a bacon sandwich in two thousand fourteen which made headlines and now Turnbull was court or overall, but he put it on his own Instagram account as short video of him eating a pie, a meat pie, which is really considered a national additional strata with a knife and fork, which sort of led to total ridicule on social media and above all sort of claims that it was very Unal stray Lian at a little bit snobby to eat to each through pie. Is tricky. I'm in a small pork pie for long. I'd have. I'd have a crack at one of those just him, but if it was a big old pie. The pastry? Yeah, I would that with great gravy point out. Yeah. I mean that people on social media who have countries defense said, actually, you can enjoy applied any any way you can. There was an Australian radio host suggested there's nothing wrong, but a right wing columnist tweeted back to him sane. He was unfolded, blocked and reported for promoting on Australian activities. But this you mentioned this idea of snow breathe. That is a bigger picture, isn't it? So many politicians is not just in Australia, but they're sort of damned if they do, and they that turned if they, if they don't tumbles, never going to be seen as one of us by a sort of a large working class demographic is simply not going to happen. Absolutely. Internal is extremely wealthy him and his wife Lucy, it worth an estimated two hundred million dollars. He had a very successful business career before entering politics. He has an enormous house on right on the harbor. Sydney's harbour with views overlooking the water which is in Sydney's most expensive suburb. So I think what this really see what the headlines really about is people fleeing a little bit uncomfortable with this prime minister who so wealthy. And I think that was sort of Sunda rather wonderfully. By the northern territory newspaper the n. t. news which when he became prime minister said, quote, rich dude becomes PM north mostly put. So it's a silver spoon rather than Northgate. To keep it utensil focus. Let's talk a little bit about why. I guess he's kind of a hospitality story towards a finely, and this is quite interesting because one of the things I guess people worry about is the sort of a veracity of reviews and all the rest of it and a launch fine for manipulating hotel reviews. This is an intriguing. One isn't quite as zeitgeist story, I guess. Yeah, absolutely. So Meriden which is a massive Australian property group known for it, some service departments among other things today on the most read article on the guardian homepage, the guardian has a straight and homepage and Australian news team was ordered to pay three million dollars by the federal court. It's being found in breach of consumable, and that was because it means manipulating trip advisor reviews to be more in its favor. So what what it was doing was it was sending essentially defunct emails to trip advisors. When Trump advises sentence guests emails to prompt them for a view, they would just bounce back and it did this by inserting initials before the the Email, the Email address, which was NIS stunning American service departments originally hugely complex..

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"new south wales" Discussed on The Science Show

The Science Show

05:11 min | 2 years ago

"new south wales" Discussed on The Science Show

"The jim bola was able to party to look at the side was in march nineteen sixty nine when he led a group of geologists so fantasy innocuous will andrew lakes region in far western new south wales they stayed in the sheer has sheds lake munger explored the genes during the day and debated ideas at night of lamb chops and flagons of wine the eulogists harry allen reece jones contain and jomo vini tantalized by the possible association of artifacts and extinct megaphone and they excitedly fuller jim to juma to investigate the charred bones the find was far more dramatic than they had imagined as they carefully investigated shattered bundle of buns after up to piece of human joba in an instant the scale of straining history changed in bowl words we will confronted not only with human activity but by the very presence of humanity itself the skeleton became affectionately known as munger lady her cremated remains had been buried in a small round hole on a sandy beach a few meters from the water's edge there she had remained for forty thousand years as a lake system dried and the camp with abandoned as a descendants moved to other parts of their country and as the rabbits and goats and farmers arrived jim bola hadn't stumbled across her remains in july nineteen sixty eight within a year all evidence of her life and death would have eroded into the wind fortuitous nature of her preservation and the influence of her discovery only straight in public has led traditional owners such as dorothy lawson to declare that she surfaced for a reason as monty monty elder mary pepin as often told jim bola you didn't find mungo lady she found you the gist quickly fighter graft andrew the features at the burial and collected the loose fragments they then made the decision to remove the bones they were sheep grazing on the net and thunderstorm with brewing the site was federal one downpour could sweep the bones away carefully cut and removed the disintegrating calculate books in which the bones was set and packed them in the only vessel available john mulvaney suitcase some of his close la returned as patting the following day they took munger lady to camera billy griffiths and here are two of those who were there archaeologists alan thorne and reece jones on dating and the significance of mungo what happens is that the iranian in the soil is dissolved then it enters the bone sometime after death and then it decays so you have thorium raid on all these other things so you measure the different daughter projects and that process has been going on since the beginning of the world is the best method of all but the amounts are so tiny i this is just minuscule amounts the miniaturization of all this so that's the problem is so that's getting any sort of age age estimate is a real coup technically what what they've done so anyway they've tried to do the uranium series plus this electron spin resonance which is trapped electron message on the teeth and boatswain give values of the same rough order so in a sense they've tried to address the problem jim raised may turn out that these remains are themselves the literally the earliest evidence for human prisons on the continent but what is interesting of course is that most of the early sites the to have been in the extreme north here we are in south western new south wales in the southeastern corner of a straighter so whatever these dates are they are very much minimum dates because obviously they didn't just race down from the north coast to turn up in the semiarid climates and environments of wish new south wales at the national university it took physical anthropologist ellen thorn over six months to excavate and reconstruct the hundreds of fragile bone fragments contained in the calgary books there were found to belong to a young adult female of slenda bill and small stature who had been burned on a pile by the lakeshore over forty thousand ease ago what was groundbreaking was that the remains unequivocally human shattering lingering nineteenth century something that bridge people had evolved from an earlier race of hominids the news of mungo lady spread quickly around the globe and was reported in their front page of the national newspapers the bones were at that time the oldest evidence of homo sapiens outside of africa the new had become the a few years later in february nineteen seventy four jim bola returned to.

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"new south wales" Discussed on KMET 1490-AM

KMET 1490-AM

02:20 min | 3 years ago

"new south wales" Discussed on KMET 1490-AM

"Welcome back to science fantastic with professor michio kaku this hour we're talking about math for the frightened at is mad anxiety did you notice that we're all born scientists that when we grow up as little kids we want to know why this sunshine we want to know where the rain comes from we want to know everything about the universe and then and then we middlesbrough and then we start to drop like flies all of a sudden math anxiety creep thin we lose a whole generation of young budding scientists because they're frightened by this symbolism of mathematics which i think is a real shame and that of course affects the future destiny societies science is the engine of prosperity it generates jobs january's industries and how can a large industrial nations sustain itself if their future generation has math anxiety but what this today to discuss this is a professor of mathematics colon pask he's the author of the book math for the frightened and i should also point out that we were privileged to get him all the way from down under in australia he's of mathematics at the university of new south wales in australia and that's why you're probably hear a slight echo and a slight delay time because of course the limitations of the speed of light light can go around the planet earth seven times in one second but it does mean that going all the way to australia a signal will be slightly delayed and i would have to apologize for that so once again our special guest today is professor cold and pass asked he is a professor and head of the math department at the university of new south wales in australia and author of the book math for the frightened so colon glad to be on science fantastic thank you very much a great for you is how did you as a young child get interested in mathematics earth nothing late to in my senior years i went to the same school that isaac newton attended and i of course that was an emphasis on my subtexts that i was one of the.

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