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Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on Merkaba Chakras

Merkaba Chakras

03:54 min | 15 hrs ago

Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on Merkaba Chakras

"Nelson mandela died in jail and we quiz them and they said they said yes and i said no. He died as the president of south africa. A couple of years ago. I pulled up my soul. I put up the the latest article about i show it to them and they were fabric lasted. They're like what kind of weird reality stage show. Did you bring us to von. because they do completely Turned up their idea of history completely because now everybody else was going no nelson mandela died as the president of south africa ninety jail. So where are you guys. You know what yesterday yesterday was yesterday. Because i was trying to tell everybody about the the interview we were doing and another one. I got coming up so doing this thing. And i had some old videos up that not even old. They were just a week old or whatever. I'm putting them up. And i remembered this interview with the bar. I was filming it. This lady kept saying she was in the torch of the statue of liberty. I said no you were and and oh i i. It's not what i said. I said well I believe you but nobody's been allowed in in the torch ever in this reality. And when she's like what are you talking about this reaction. You have memories of being in the torch. she goes. yeah. I walked around the whole torch to remember it as a child. I said you've got pictures or anything. She's like no. I was a child tonight. Look it up. Look up the statue liberty while they start talking about the The torch you're not allowed in it. She's reading that they she's going. That's impossible because i was in it. They don't they're talking about black. The black tom incident Where the germans. It was the first attack on. us soil. Nobody's ever heard of it. They never heard of it going. What is this. I never heard of it. Yeah the lady ladies going look you really screwed up my reality because i know i was in the torch and i had it on the film filming her going jape believe it says that you know in. I wouldn't have been in the torch. But i'm telling you i was. I thought that was an interesting yesterday for that was kind of neat. Yeah and try not to well you know but the thing is is that i mean. Here's an here's the thing too is There's a lot of people that argue changes in the bible and And that the bible if you look at the bible in this reality it's the The wolf and the lamb Not the lionel. Yana remember the one right right. I remember the lion though the lion the lamb and even in Movies like twilight for instance. They referred to the line and the lamb. Now i know. Yeah yeah i know. It's the line the lab. Because i'm buddhist and one of the Stories told in buddhism about the first buddha was was the lion the lamb. Because the lion is the war of the buddha's voice Teaching lamps so Just a short of of that story and that all over buddhist canon is the line the lamb and so and so when they said no. It's the wolf. no and i'm like At not cooperating. Just like saying. Put your over your heart over across his chest to say the pledge of allegiance but your heart's in the middle of your chess and they still tell you they they. Yeah why you doing that. They moved the kids a hand over your chest..

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Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on RiYL

RiYL

07:50 min | 15 hrs ago

Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on RiYL

"You know i'm just a guy can use. You're making music. That sounds like red. Hot peppers cross Minniti to which births. Let's earn montreal. You're talking before about one of the nice parts of having a collaborators early on is you is knowing whether or not you're challenging yourself enough and i'm i'm curious what what it means to challenge yourself in for you in the context of making music I mean bull like or dislike. Playing is probably just trying things that i haven't tried before each time usually record i go into like a pretty clear vision of what i'm trying to do Sunday song close. But yeah i think like mostly it's like i'm not a trained musician but i i sang in choirs and did channels younger so i have a bit of like a and did a bit of music like whatever while western music theory classes in university so i have like a bit of like an understanding of music. The or western music and so. I'm just trying to like make sure that when i look at my music through that lens that i'm not like repeating the same things over and over again and i'm like raking but then at the same time not just using western music. Theory is a compass but it just may be a way for because i find that really hard like it's almost like kind of look at it as like like physics or like science in that like you know when you have those subjects in school at. You're really struggling at the you. Don't just don't get for some reason. And yeah there is that for me. Which is unfortunate as a musician. I actually feel like it's i feel like it's an advantage to me Yeah i don't feel. I understand just enough to be able to collaborate to a certain extent and you know i. It's i'm learning right now. Trenton understand i'm signatures better. We're more complicated time signatures better. So i like there. I can see the gaps. But i feel like i can just approach music for me anyways. I have debates with my friends who are like music theorists. But this but i feel like i can Music more freely and different angles. So i can approach it more from like okay so like how can i use these pedals. Differently are how. Can i use my voice differently or can i use you know this guitar. Technique differently rather than like. How can i you know. Do make this harmony different than i did. The last time You know. Should i put a key change here or whatever so but you know you can obviously do that. If you're training music theory too. I just like the way that i can see that the way i approached music is different to to a lot of a lot of folks but I don't maybe music steerable. Would i would love somebody analyze it in of what they think. You're not an outsider artists in the sense that like you know that year professional music musician Around other professional musicians. But maybe there's something to ask. You often do get the most unique stop coming from people who are complete outsiders hundred percent unlike also just this idea of what what is good generally understood as what is good like what is a good voice for example where what is good playing those things really need to be challenged and i think those those limitation can be the limitations of western music theory. But yeah i mean. I i look at theories. Just like is just a way for us to communicate via writing when we weren't able to record things and i wonder what the relevance theory will now that we we have that so readily available to us. I still pick it is useful on has its Definitely has its using every day But i think that there are other ways to communicate through music. That are as valuable and i would love to explore those as much as i do. Sort of the warmer ram traditional ways as the flip side of that. The you know the argument that you'll hear from people you know in in sort of i guess the academy is that you need to know the rules in order to break them right. That's what they tell you about painters right. They for like the so. That's the whole thing right. He you know he had to demonstrate that he was a technically great painter before he could develop like cubism but there are no rules like literally. No rules. Like i mean i approach. Music has just play like it's just like play and all of the things that i have our central just twice like you know you can take seriously but like these are things that we use to make. Sound and sound is pretty like ephemeral things away. You know what. I don't understand what these rules are exactly like one what rules you know you know. Obviously like you're i get that made you know don't play your music at a a decibel level that will like death people daf. Don't harm people with your out. That's that's a good one. I think they're like practical and logistical rules. But and you know music does enter that in some capacity but like music is literally just a thing that we do and we've formalized it which makes sense formalized so many things so many prophecies but there are literally are no rules. You can do whatever you want night. I always try to tell the younger people. And i'm still very young but younger people who wanna play music or just people who wanna play music for fun and are intimidated. And that's just like you can just do whatever you want if you're enjoying what you're doing and it sounds horrible to somebody else's ear than great you know like at one point distortion out an horrible to people and now we do it on purpose so so much of it is just dependent on. Because you've met you've mentioned in one of the interviews i listen to lorraine is how it's pronounced. I wasn't familiar with her nelson. Durant just completely completely blew me away but you know. That's an example of probably. It's the kind of music that that probably a lot of people have to spend time with and people don't really spend time with music as much because obviously like tennis fans shorter but also i just think the ways that we consume music over spotify. You don't feel obligated as he did when you went out and bought a twenty dollar record to release just sort of sit down and spend several days with it. yeah yeah. I definitely don't spend much time either but i do try to come back to things and i do like i really like work something. If i think that there's something i feel like i'm i hope that i'm better at this now but i feel like when i listened to something new and i don't like it. I can usually can try to try to tell whether or not I don't like it because there's something that's maybe like challenging me about it. You can tell if things hadn't have merit you know you can there. You could help or something there and but also like a lot of my favorite bands. Musicians are bands. When i listen to them. I didn't like at all like i was like. Wow this is not good and now you know and i liked. I really love them. And so there's just like always like a point where something turns. I don't know what it is and then i ended up loving it and so i try to always come back to stuff at least two or three times. You know and i'll like i've had my bookmarks are a mess absolute music and i just try to see yatch. Most things do have some kind of merit and.

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Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on The Larry Elder Show

The Larry Elder Show

02:50 min | 15 hrs ago

Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on The Larry Elder Show

"When is he going down to the border? Do you have plans to visit the southern border? I've been there before, and I haven't I mean, I know it well. I guess I should go down, but the whole point of it is I haven't had a whole hell of a lot of time to get down. I've been spending time going around looking at the $900 billion worth of damage done by hurricanes and floods and weather and traveling around the world. But penalty flag, red state Joe Biden has taken two extent of vacations over the last several months, also made 25 individual trips back to his home in Delaware since taking off. That's nearly every weekend since he's been inaugurated, but he just hasn't had time to get down to the border because, you know, it's a job. Around looking at the $900 billion worth of damage done by by hurricanes and floods and weather and traveling around the world. But I plan on my wife, Jill has been down. She's been well. Jill's been down there, so almost the same as me being down there. By the way, the article red state says the time he spent traveling the country to tour damage from weather events can be counted on exactly one hand. Maybe he's talking to talking about the time he went to. The G 7 summit, I have no idea what he's talking about. But, you know, he's been traveling around. He's been very, very busy and has his head in that time, you know? By hurricanes and floods and weather and traveling around the world. But I plan on my wife, Jill has been down. She's been on both sides of the river. She's seen the circumstances there. She's looked into those places. You notice you're not seeing a lot of pictures of kids lying on top of one another with black with so he says he's been there before. Do you have plans to visit the southern border? I've been there before and really? It's not clear how much of a frame of reference President Biden actually has about what is going on in Del Rio. I asked Jen Psaki the press secretary at one point, if President Biden has ever been to the southern border and she asked in his life and I said, yes, because we did spend a couple hours this morning looking. We can not find any record of him going as president vice president candidate senator concerned citizen. Well, come on, he was too busy. Desegregating restaurants and movie theaters in Delaware to get down to the border. Too busy, a visiting Nelson Mandela when Nelson Mandela was imprisoned during apartheid South Africa to get down there. He just hasn't had time because he just had so many other things he's had. To do. Now, today, Jen Psaki says, well, here's what Biden meant..

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Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on Merkaba Chakras

Merkaba Chakras

02:05 min | 16 hrs ago

Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on Merkaba Chakras

"Welcome soumare kaba chaka's where we talk. Buddhism in the fifth dimension. Well come to another podcast episode of macabre chuck. Russia's i'm your host vaughn goats and today we discuss personnel mandela effects with the author. Anthony santosuosso mandela. Fix is a pop culture word for changes in our physical reality. That are different or no longer exists from when we last interacted with it such as the contradictory memories memories of nelson mandela dying in prison or nelson mandela dying a couple years ago as the president of south africa. So with bad anthony. Welcome to akaba chalker as thank you earn. Thanks for having me on. This is one of my favorite favorite topics in metaphysics is Shifts in our reality based off our consciousness so I written quite a bit of books about consciousness in buddhism and i love hearing another book after provide their insight in their own personal mandela affects as well so before we dig into your work. Can you tell us your for how you got into this in the first place. The mandala effect well Or reality shifts. Whatever you wanna call it well it was. It was back in two thousand fifteen. I started to have a bunch of experiences after i had an impalement experience. What happened I it's very descriptive in the book. I just.

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Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on The Larry Elder Show

The Larry Elder Show

03:08 min | 16 hrs ago

Fresh update on "nelson" discussed on The Larry Elder Show

"Might have gone on there when he was trying to see Nelson Mandela or maybe he went there and he forgot. But they can't find any record of him having gone to the border as a private citizen as a senator as the vice president or as a president says he hasn't had time. Since people who don't want to get the vaccine should be fired. Growing anger over mandating masks and face masks at school boards. AG Garland grilled over the $400 million at Mark Zuckerberg a CEO spent to influence the election in favor of Joe Biden. You know that Facebook was providing tips on how to end the country illegally. Oh yes. That came up. Also possible perjury for Doctor Fauci. And then in the third hour we'll be playing, can you be Kirk and vulnerable? All of that and more Triple H, 9 7 one. S 8 GE triple 8 9 7 one 7 two four three. Now I want to get to a few things before we get to Michaels McConnell. He is the CNN host and also podcaster who I interviewed both before and after my race in yesterday I got on him for. Editing out his apology to me for referring to me as a Trump Republican. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the reason others do it is because they want to turn the recall into a referendum on Trump as opposed to referendum on the avenues record. And yesterday, I scolded some Connors for editing out his apology. What turns out we found it, it was posted and he did not edit it out to apologize to mister McConnell because I know it got back to him, but I do want to play you the apology that he did make. We'll do that later on. Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed a cinematographer, and injured a director. Filming a scene in New Mexico, this happened yesterday. You know, he's a big anti Second Amendment guy. He won time ripped in in our race spokesperson, and said the Second Amendment isn't a moral credit card. I wonder how long it's gonna take for Alec Baldwin to blame the gun. By the way, during the campaign, mister Baldwin quoted this tweet sent this tweet out about the great elderly quote, Larry elder is a dangerous idiot. I mean Trump level dangerous. Just in round numbers, how many people has Donald Trump shot with a and killed with a gun? How many people has the great older ski shot and killed with the gun real or prop? Elder is a dangerous idiot, I mean Trump level dangerous. He also sent out a tweet back in 2017 because of police officer, was captured on video struggling with a suspect. Before shooting and killing the man, Baldwin tweeted how it must feel to wrongfully kill some one..

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Arozarena shines, Rays blank Red Sox 5-0 in ALDS opener

AP News Radio

00:42 sec | 2 weeks ago

Arozarena shines, Rays blank Red Sox 5-0 in ALDS opener

"The rays take the opener there A. L. division series with a five nothing shot out of the red Sox wander Franco put Tampa Bay ahead with an RBI double in the first and scored on an RBI single by young D. D. as later in the inning Randi Rhodes arena added a solo Homer and also stole home getting kudos from manager Kevin cash the steal of home but that was you know one of the cool things I've seen on a baseball field he looks Betul player he certainly gets up for the moment he's proven that Nelson Cruz also went deep for the rays Tampa starter and winner Shane McClanahan allowed five hits and no walks over five innings losing pitcher Eduardo Rodriguez lasted just one and a third innings allowing two runs two hits and two walks on the ferry

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Canadian Court Rules Misgendering Is a Human Rights Violation

Dennis Prager Podcasts

02:20 min | 2 weeks ago

Canadian Court Rules Misgendering Is a Human Rights Violation

"Our neighbor to the north is becoming increasingly as are we by the way a police state. Here's an example. Not using people's preferred pronouns is a human rights offense. A canadian tribunal ruled while settling in employment dispute. The british columbia human rights tribunal ruled in favor of jessie nelson. British columbia restaurant server server. No long i don't know what's wrong with waiter allina. what's wrong. Waiter implies mail and waitress applies female and we can't possibly use that any longer. who was biologically female. But identifies as non binary right. It's not the same at all as transgender transgender is. We change your gender but non binary is there is no gender. that's by far. The most egregious attack on the dignity of the human species which is divided into male and female. The transgender does not deny that the human species is male or female. They denied that that they are biolo-. Biology is what defines their sex or their gender as they call it. But the non binary deny that there's even male and female there neither so the person needed to be called they and somebody worked refused to refer to the person as they and them and was penalized. And the it's now a human rights offense it's a It's against the law at least in british columbia. You must you must say them. That is what started. Jordan peterson in getting into public life when ottawa wanted to do the same thing dictate how you speak

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Yanks' rally fizzles, AL wild-card race tightens as Rays win

AP News Radio

00:45 sec | 3 weeks ago

Yanks' rally fizzles, AL wild-card race tightens as Rays win

"Rookie wander Franco hit a two run single in the ninth inning to give the rays a four one lead in a four three victory over the Yankees Nelson Cruz junior his thirty second home run and Kevin here Meyer hit a go ahead single in the second inning to put Tampa Bay ahead to stay Joey Gallo in Brett Gardner slapped RBI singles in the ninth before Andrew Kittredge struck at Gary Sanchez and movement or torture complete Tampa bay's leading ninety ninth win it was a tough night for manager Aaron Boone's lineup it'll hold us down I I thought a number of guys hit some balls really well you know reside a couple good ones Gleyber Gallo hits that ball the runner on in the gap you know just couldn't break through enough the outcome cuts the Yankees lead to one game for the first AL wild card I'm the ferry

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Diplomatic Pouch

Scuba Shack Radio

08:13 min | 3 weeks ago

Diplomatic Pouch

"It's time for another installment of sea hunt. It still alive here on scuba shack radio. And this time. We're going back to season three episode thirty eight titled diplomatic pouch diplomatic pouch premiered on september twenty fourth nineteen sixty. Well in this episode. Mike is back in a latin american country named san miguel. His mission is to retrieve a diplomatic pouch from crashed american airplane. The show opens up with mike searching the wreck while his buddies on the surface appearing to be fishing as luck would have it. Mike find the pouch and starts to head to the surface. There's a great shot of the voight swim fins as he ascends but just as mike breaks the surface he's confronted with an armed boat of officials who are pointing their guns at him and asking him if he would be so good to come on board what to do. Quick thinking mike takes a fix on his position and drops the pouch. Who are these armed men. The guy in charge is colonel ramirez and he is the head of the coastal defense. He's cold and tough and goes over. Mike's gear with a fine toothcomb. Just then mike's friend. Paul alexander pulls up with their boat. He tells mikey sorry. That he drifted. The boat drifted off process that they are on vacation. And he's from dallas texas. Colonel ramirez tells them that they are not to dive on the downed airplane at an at the penalty by order of the dictator row. All as is that they will be immediately deported. They are welcome to fish. Just stay away from the airplane. So now paul and mike are on the bridget or boat and paul is upset about the diving when might tells him he found the pouch but he had to drop it. He says he took a position. And we'll be able to find it. But how will that be possible with the colonel watching pause. Got a plan. But mike wants to know i. Where did he get that phony. Southern accent well. Paul's plan involves dragging mike to a local cantina. The club kellyanne. Tae sign is flashing on and off as they enter once inside. They sit down in the bartender heads over the jukebox. A stereo phonic rockall roller and plays a record loudly before waiting on and paul. Something's the bartender nods and mike and pau get up and head for the back room. The ace of pulse leave is one of colonel ramirez. Deputy familiaux who calls the kernel. A pig who goes beyond the law familiar will fight with his fingertips to overthrow the hated dictator. The plane is to get. The plan is to get information from familiaux on whether the colonel is going to put a diver on the wrecked plane. Now the the scene shifts to mike and paul on the water and they're trying to get to the wreck but they're constantly being pursued by the coastal defense. Just then shots are fired from the defense boat. And they're colonel comes alongside and tells them that the penalty for diving on. The wreck is no longer deportation. It's death before they leave familiar hotels. Mike and paul that they are going to have another diver coming from the capital. Soon we now had back to the cantina. We're familiar comes in the bartender. Nods towards the back room in the room familiar hotels mike composite. The situation is desperate. what can they do. Mike knows he will be an underwater hitchhiker. But only familiar can drop a line over the side of the colonels boat you see. Mike can swim to the rack but he needs a ride back. Familiaux says it will be done. So now we have paul mike on their boat watching a coastal defence boat with its diver onboard and her headed out to the wreck plane. Mike tells paul if anything happens he needs to get out of there because he's too valuable. Paul reluctantly agrees as mike. Put the powder into his wetsuit top. Once the divers from the colonel Once the diver from the kernels boot jumps in. Mike is in the water swimming towards where he dropped the pouch. He sees the line. Familial has tossed over the side but now he needs to pop to the surface to get his bearings so he can find the diplomatic pouch just before the men on the boat turn towards mike. He slips beneath the surface a close call. Mike is now underwater searching and searching trying to find the pouch before the enemy divers season. Finally he spots the pouch intact and now he needs to get it out now. Here's where it gets a little strange. Mike is kneeling on the bottom looking at the patch. Trying to figure out and then like maybe how to open it or something. He's got a puzzled look on his face. His back is towards the plane wreck. As he's puzzling over the pouch the enemy divers spots him pulls out his knife and be lines towards mike as he tries to stab. Mike looks like the pouch gets in the way we are now witnessed to a classic underwater knife flight where mike wrestles do knife out of the bad guys hand takes out his own life and you guessed it cuts who's hose. The enemy divers forced to the surface and mike heads under the colonel's boat too high policies the diver surface in figures. There's a problem so he starts to head out. Mike is trying to figure out what to do with the diplomatic pouch when he decides to stick between his back and his doubles now. The colonel suspects that mike is with paul so he starts out in hot pursuit. Mike grabs the line and his underwater hitchhiking begins. The ride is challenging. You can see the strain on his double hose thins. Just as he's about to let go the boat slows down and pulls alongside. Paul familiar searches the boat and said no one is aboard. Paul says he just wants to go home as this is no place for a vacation. That colonel tells them to get out of his country. Once colonel leaves. Paul is despondent at the thought of losing mike just any. Here's mike call out. I think i heard him call pau. Alex i'm not sure. But as paul looks over the side mike tosses up the diplomatic pouch telling him. He forgot his laundry. Mike has yet again the day now. There wasn't any indication in credits as to where this episode was film. The plane wreck looked pretty authentic with the large propeller and debris. I wonder if this was. In the bahamas. So there you have it. Diplomatic pouch from season three of sea hunt.

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Troubled Nielsen to update measurements for local television

AP News Radio

00:48 sec | Last month

Troubled Nielsen to update measurements for local television

"Who's watching TV and when maybe big changes in the way that question will be answered going back to the days of black and white TV with rabbit ear antennas on the top the Nielsen company has been keeping tabs on TV viewership and as those big to base set seven given way to HD flat screens Nielsen is starting to change it to methods the ratings company has been under fire by the networks were not keeping up with the times and have even put out feelers to recruit other companies to do the counting but now Nelson says it will starting cooperating homes that have cut the cord is they now getting the local the networking programming on line instead of over the air or through cable there's a lot of money at stake Nielsen's measurements are used to govern how billions in ad dollars are spent I'm Oscar wells Gabriel

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How Thirsty Was the FBI for Michael Sussman's False Trump-Russia Claims?

The Dan Bongino Show

03:59 min | Last month

How Thirsty Was the FBI for Michael Sussman's False Trump-Russia Claims?

"Just to kind of sum up where we are now. This break in the SPI geh case on Friday was important because it shows Hillary Clinton working with the FBI and a group of attorneys to fake these connections between Trump and Russia. And it shows an FBI more than willing to take the information in and eager and looking for an excuse to get in front of a judge and say it was real and the problem is, they kept flooding the zone. Hillary Clinton, with all of these sources say Trump's colluding with Russia whatever, and they kept telling the FBI they were working with the DNC and Hillary And it created a problem for the FBI because they couldn't tell a judge that So they needed a clean source. They needed a white knight to come in there. Someone clean as the driven snow with a clean C B. Oh, no, no. These people are just in here to tell us about Trump. They have no ulterior motives whatsoever. How do we know that? Because we know On September 19th of 2016 this white knight showed up. According to the allegations, the FBI and the indictment on Friday Michael Sussman, who is a lawyer working with Mrs Clinton, this is why I'm telling you, it's a bigger deal than you think. This guy is connected to everyone. There's no way John Door, um, locked him up for nothing. So he comes into the FBI office. And he says, I have information about Trump colluding with Russia. And according to the allegation, he says, Oh, I'm not working with anybody. I'm not here on behalf of any client. I'm just here giving you potential information about a criminal conspiracy. And the FBI is like yes, finally. Finally The FBI is like this is just great. We gotta sources clean. We can put his information down in a fight application. We can spy on Trump and we won't have to lie and tell a judge, you know, uh, cover up for Hillary Clinton or anything like that. So, it says. In the end I and the FBI's press release that suspects showed up September 19th 2016. Why is this suspicious? Because you learn later on If you watch my show today, the podcast you learn right now on the radio show. If you read the Inspector General Michael Horowitz report who looked at this entire story. There's a really interesting nugget in there again. Hat tip. Our friend full Nelson on social media is all over this stuff. Here it is. Remember, I want you to pay attention to something right here. The date The lawyer walks in. The FBI office is September 1920 16, where he meets with the FBI. And this is their clean source. Finally. They've been hearing all summer about Trump and the Russians and all the sources are dirty. They're telling people that working for Hillary, this is the one guy who said according to the indictment. No, no, I'm not working for anyone. They felt like they had it. How do I know the FBI is in on this? What I think. Let me read to you a piece of this footnote here. From the Horowitz report. The only express direction. We found that Andrew McCabe, who was the deputy director at the time gave regarding the use of a confidential human source concerned. A former confidential human source who contacted an FBI agent FBI Field office in late July. 2016 to report information from a colleague runs an investigative firm hired by two entities, the DNC as well as another individual to explore Donald Trump's long standing ties to Russian entities. So in of this part, one of the footnote, McCabe, the deputy director of the FBI knows that people are piling into FBI offices as early as July of 2016 who are working for Hillary and the DNC. Got it. Okay. Moving on. Good footnote goes on. The former confidential human source also gave the FBI agent a list of individuals and entities who surfaced in the firm's examination of Trump, which the former CHS described as mostly public source material. In mid September. 2016 Andrew McCabe told senior Special Agent one to instruct the FBI agent from the field office not to have any further contact with the former confidential human source and not to accept any information regarding the crossfire. Hurricane investigation Is it that timing Church lady

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Hey Saturday's Saskia Nelson Explains the Importance of Great Photos for Online Dating

Unhinged and Bumbled up

02:17 min | Last month

Hey Saturday's Saskia Nelson Explains the Importance of Great Photos for Online Dating

"Sascha you. First of all tells a story about behind his saturday. Yeah well basically. Is it online dating for a long time. Pretty much is ten years on and off now all the time Yeah and so. When i came to sign up my photography business i was. I wanted to specialize niche as as as kind of makes sense for business on. I miss elected back. Oh my online. Dating days by. Because i'm a visual person and i'm so i can't scott the time the columnist of hartman. I kind of recognize the importance in skylight. They just use a massive photo when they want to market something. I really strong powerful fight catches. Your eye really really stops. She's makes you stop into tracks and look at it and might have three words without photo like believing better or something. And i was just like. Wow okay. imagine if you translate it that dayton price file how like powerful could be rather than the usual. Saudi larry fatos and that tonight of copy on agreeing off that basically and this was back in twenty thirteen so i did the research and november staying any while. I thought that's kinda vault because to me. It might so much sense benefits. Because i was a visual person is in king this is just kind of occurrence the people while i'm going to give it a guy so i did that and then at the beginning. Was this log like first year. It was this hard slog like giggling it because it was saying and me having a blocking across all the dating apps and things like that guy. Hey this thing you could get an. You can be ahead of the cub. If everyone else is using rubbish that you'll know you're really gonna stand out cypher. Not kind of grow and grow and then we have exploited yet lights up like on the yeah expanded to the sites as well. So it's yeah it's been. It's been busy times anymore now. Busy money

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Renfroe HRs in 8th, Throws Out Runner in 9th for Red Sox

AP News Radio

00:28 sec | Last month

Renfroe HRs in 8th, Throws Out Runner in 9th for Red Sox

"One swing in the eighth and one throw in the ninth from hunter Renfroe was all the red Sox needed to pull out a two one win over the rays Renfroe hit a go ahead two run home run in the eighth inning and throughout the tying run at third base for the final out in the ninth Nathan Eovaldi pitched seven scoreless innings with eight strikeouts to help the red Sox snapped their three game skid Nelson Cruz had a go ahead RBI single in the eighth but the rays fell short of a three game sweep in Boston I'm guessing Coolbaugh

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Bitcoin of the Realm: El Salvador's Experiment

The Economist: The Intelligence

02:04 min | Last month

Bitcoin of the Realm: El Salvador's Experiment

"El salvador today a world first. Bitcoin becomes legal tender. It's a personal campaign for president. Naib kelly who says the move will help both economic development and inclusion of the country's unbagged generally jobs and help provide financial inclusion thousands outside the formal economy that will take some convincing both the world and the imf have warned against the move worrying about economic stability and the cryptocurrencies notorious environmental costs. Many salvadorans aren't keen. Either at have protested against the policy and when nelson who writes about el salvador for the economist went out in the capital san salvador. He found plenty of people who simply weren't ready for store. Owner catalina tzavela said. She wasn't preparing for what's being cold day because she doesn't understand it she reckons. She'll eventually catch up as she did. Twenty years ago when the country made the us dollar the official currency him modest bit on that set some though or embracing the change. We've got one just outside san salvador. A store run by adela of and daniel has been taking bitcoin for months selling mostly to foreigners so she walks nelson through a purchase. The wall street correspondent. Alice fullwood says it's a bold experiment from a millennial leader with a growing reputation. Both good and bad for shaking things up three months ago. The president of el salvador ni- kelly announced at a bitcoin conference in miami. That el salvador was in the process of writing a law. That would mean. Bitcoin was accepted as legal

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Meadows, Rays Rally From 6 Runs Down, Beat Red Sox 11-10 in 10

AP News Radio

00:43 sec | Last month

Meadows, Rays Rally From 6 Runs Down, Beat Red Sox 11-10 in 10

"The rays of spike their lead in the AL east to eight and a half games over the Yankees with a comeback win over the red Sox eleven to ten Austin meadows tied it with an inside the park Homer in the ninth one inning before Nelson Cruz singled home the go ahead run medicine joined his trip around the bases I was able to finally get the barrel and can be on time and yeah on the basis or else those schools but a long time since I've done and I was pretty exhausted crews also homered and finished with a pair of RBI singles for the rays who trailed by six before winning for the twelfth time in fifteen games Tampa Bay took advantage of four Boston errors to score six unearned runs for office starter Chris sale sale retired the first two batters in the fourth with the seven one lead before the race chase them during the inning I'm Dave Ferrie

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Díaz, Rays Tie Team Record With 6 HRs, Romp Past Twins 11-4

AP News Radio

00:39 sec | Last month

Díaz, Rays Tie Team Record With 6 HRs, Romp Past Twins 11-4

"The rays are seven and a half games ahead of the Yankees after Tampa Bay won for the eleventh time in thirteen games and eleven to four routed Minnesota yandy Diaz hit one of Tampa bay's franchise record tying six home runs and drove in four Jordan Luplow Manuel Margot Rainier Rosa Reina Nelson Cruz and Brandon Lau also went deep for the rays the early run support help Chris archer get his first win since June twenty nineteen just the fact that our our guys put up that many runs that early no I just felt like I could challenge hitters archer tossed a season high seventy eight pitches while allowing four runs over five innings Jorge Polanco was three for four with a two run Homer for Minnesota I'm Dave Ferrie

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Roy Nelson Tempts Jake Paul on Twitter With a Winner-Take-All Fight

MMA Roasted

00:42 sec | Last month

Roy Nelson Tempts Jake Paul on Twitter With a Winner-Take-All Fight

"Right. Nelson wants to next. He goes congrats. Jake paul you wanna pick on old fat guy on your man and i will bet you all the money winner. Take all I mean at least nelson's closer to his weight. I mean he the other way. Because he's not a one seventy pounder used close anybody except for fucking orbiting satellite. They're going to go to ninety cat tweet. That's no moon roy nelson so i mean who do you think wins roy nelson or first of all. They're never gonna make fight because they don't better. They want him to take the money to

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New England Patriots Cut Cam Newton; Mac Jones to Start

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

01:26 min | Last month

New England Patriots Cut Cam Newton; Mac Jones to Start

"Speaking with our breaking news at foxborough. The patriots are releasing cam newton. And we'll move forward with as their quarterback pro football focus posted this week that the alabama rookie has the best preseason rookie passing rate since two thousand thirteen and now look to do with him. Couldn't do last year. Get new england back to the playoffs. Oh shannon what will be the patriots record with mac as a start of the season trying to look as you mentioned. I've tried to schedule and looking at it I say this is gonna make the playoffs. And so i believe it's gonna take ten wins for them to make the playoffs. So i'm gonna go ten ten and seven at the bare minimum possibly lebanon states. But i'll be conservative. I'll say ten and seven I think mayfield play well. I know they're not going to rely olmec as much as maybe some of the other quarterbacks but they're going to run the football i believe they're going to be a top five running team and everything they do is going to be predded gonna be set up the running game so they're gonna be heavy play action. They went to the to tidy. As they went and got a hindrance free agency got john newsouth upgraded the wide receiver position. I think decide nelson born. Yeah so they got some weapons. I man i still like jacoby. Myers i like here tomorrow. Watching the better he gets. I really liked jacoby. Myers in so with that being said skipped. I'm gonna say they go tunas seven and they make the playoffs.

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John Kirby Openly States 'Americans Get Stranded All the Time'

The Dan Bongino Show

01:02 min | Last month

John Kirby Openly States 'Americans Get Stranded All the Time'

"This is John Kirby. Now switching the narrative from peppermints, Uh, narrative a few weeks ago. We don't strand Americans. Now they know there'll be no media fallout whatsoever. For leaving our people overseas. So John Kirby, Defense Department spokesperson like whatever we strand Americans all the time. Too bad Nelson Month. No worries here, John Kirby. So what does that look like? How does diplomacy get those people out of the Taliban controlled Afghanistan? It's not completely unlike the way we do it elsewhere around the world. I mean, we have Americans that get stranded in in countries all the time. Thank you for cutting that, Jim. I didn't even have to ask him. Thank you. I appreciate he's got a lot to juggle during the show. You and Mike do a great job there. Americans get stranded all the time, folks. Americans do get stranded all the time. They rarely get stranded by their own government. However, intentionally in a war zone when we had options, not do it

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Indianapolis Colts' T.Y. Hilton to Miss Start of Season

ESPN Radio

01:41 min | Last month

Indianapolis Colts' T.Y. Hilton to Miss Start of Season

"T Y. Hilton expected to miss the start of the regular season after re aggravating a neck injury. At practice last week earlier on ESPN radio are Courtney Cronin in Shape Peppler. The Colts need to let go stage their locker room like they need to take a page out of the Baltimore Orioles and what they did there in breaking a 19 game losing streak because it just feels like injury after injury for them Now, next on the list is T Y Hilton, who's got a back problem. They don't know the diagnosis with That, But I know Courtney, you've got some more insight as to what the deal is with T Y Hilton in Indianapolis. Yeah, Apparently he was injured in practice on Wednesday. This didn't come from the preseason game that they just played on Friday. That happened early, and then he came back out and he was able to finish practice. But now we find out Shea that he has a back and a neck injury and he's out indefinitely and that comes on the heels. And, like 24 hours, they find out that and then Sam Ehlinger, the backup quarterback as a knee injuries out for 4 to 6 weeks. I think that this Indianapolis team for all the steps forward that they were able to take in the last few weeks, getting Carson Wentz back at practice, the good at least, you know, positive news that they got with Quentin Nelson, who had the same foot injury that Carson once has. That it's not going to be the end of his season, either, And then they're dealt this blow the big one here, though, as I look at all of these injuries and trying to figure out which is the worst one is probably Ehlinger because you don't know when Carson once is really going to be ready to play. Is it going to be weak? One? They haven't put that timetable on him. Yet. That is still two weeks away. Your backup quarterback right now is Jacob Eason like it was supposed to be Ehlinger. But now he's out 4 to 6 weeks. That's something that I don't think is a should give them any confidence. That's a Big below Hilton, Like many

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Cruz Leads Rays Past Phillies With Bat and, Yes, Mitt

AP News Radio

00:27 sec | 2 months ago

Cruz Leads Rays Past Phillies With Bat and, Yes, Mitt

"A two run double by Nelson Cruz in the top of the game if any book a one all tie and gave the rays a three one win over the Phillies Tampa Bay to the one of the lead in the top of the fourth inning philosophy tied the game in their half of the inning on Brad Miller's RBI double J. T. sure go picks up the win for Tampa Andrew could just got the save as the race for the poor third straight win Archie Bradley took the loss for the Phils Michael Luongo Philadelphia

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Will Carson Wintz Be Ready for Week 1?

Get Up!

01:45 min | 2 months ago

Will Carson Wintz Be Ready for Week 1?

"Good news from indianapolis where quarterback carson wentz and guard quentin nelson will return to practice this week on a limited basis to nelson nelson both coming off foot surgery in early august holtz head coach. Frank reich had this to say about his quarterback last week in the perfect world. We have a really good idea after that third preseason game and carson would get to work two weeks going into the first game. That's the perfect world. The nets perfect world is the only gets the work of game week. I don't know if that's going to happen would be week to week. Three is still some mystery here regarding the timeline on carson wentz. What do we make of the recovery. Time line here. It seems to be going pretty well. Kimberly what are you hearing. In terms of carson wentz in the colts yeah it was somewhat surprising just because the initial time was five to twelve weeks and you know when i asked people around the league. Oh carson may be back in practice. Look at this. they're like. Oh is that an indictment on the other guys. I don't think that's the case. But i think india's a very delegates only because we've seen frank reich Gold took in my opinion go above and beyond in solidify this carson's team then and we. I love nick foles. But this is carson's team gotta hear this nicole stock and it just seemed a little extra and when you think about how carson has been described by people in league as far he needs to feel security needs to feel wanted. He needs to know that this is his team. The colts clearly are doing that. So this tie him being back at practice so soon you want you wanna make sure that he's not rushing himself back before he needs to be because this is a team that could go really far

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Haitians return to quake-damaged churches, gangs offer aid

AP News Radio

00:49 sec | 2 months ago

Haitians return to quake-damaged churches, gangs offer aid

"Patients return to earth quake damaged churches for Sunday services as gangs offer support to those in need after eight trucks were hijacked in like high residents rushed to grab bundles of food water and other supplies well armed men stood by Jimmy sure easier a former cop known as barbecue heads the G. nine federation of nine gangs and offered a truce to help aid flow relief worker Yvonne Nelson Kerr says the supplies they were delivering should last a week to have the people doubt the incentive for the water and your date teens it's the kind of thing that we like meanwhile some people made it to church in the hard hit area as the country's civil protection agency raised the death toll to more than twenty two hundred I'm Julie Walker

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

11:14 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"And welcome to my podcast. I'm Jay Force the spiritual skeptic today. I'm going to be talking about naturalistic Pantheon Awesome. UH The point. Six of the Nuxie says the Cosmos is divine and it ends with nature is sacred. So I'M GONNA combined mind that to explain a little bit about the idea of naturalistic. Pantheon's them because it seems weird to say that you don't believe in God and then say that you're panatheist. Well a panatheist says that all is God and God is all but to me. When I first heard that I'd like well? That's Kinda redundant if the Universe is God. God is universal. The Cosmos is the universe isn't or the Cosmos is God and God is the Cosmos or God is nature and nature's God. Why do we need the word God and for Awhile? I struggled Ogle with that because it seems redundant void that just call it nature. Why do we have to call it divine and so one of the problems with the word theism is it can mean many different things midst very very ambiguous in in the fact that can be theism as in the specific beliefs about God that are in Christianity Judaism and Islam or it can be belief in a god of some kind or it can be belief in a personal creator? God and usually theism awesome. When it's instead of translated in just the word theism itself usually has the connotation of personal God but when it's combined with the word like Pantheon then has the connotation of divine us or divinity or Godmanis or something of of that sort because in Pantheon God isn't that a person because the universe is an person therefore it can't be if all is divine and they really can't be God in the sense of what we usually think of God? So that's one of the problems with using the word the other is. There's as many different ideas of you know. What Pantheon isn't it? So in order to specify I say naturalistic Pantheon Awesome naturalistic meaning. It's just natural. There's not a supernatural In the hall it's just the natural world. The the natural world is according to evidence all that there is so. It's based on the the idea. If scientific naturalism which I specified before four and I I won't repeat it here but the idea is that instead of thinking of in Pantheon the way that I'm using the term the theism part does not refer to the word can't be translated very well as God because we don't believe in a personal ursel creator. God what I would say is that we believe in the God of Einstein on Spinoza that nature and the laws and principles both of nature are divine. And we won't use the word God because the word God does have that connotation of a person so that's why you will not see me ever say that the that nature is God. Although I'm not against somebody AH referring to it as God as long as they understand that it's a non personal God but you're getting into terminology in its. It's misunderstanding is very easy. When you were used the word God even divine is even though I specify let me read that Point six for you. The album read the complete thing. Natural Pantheon the cosmos. Divide being all there is or was or ever will be we call the Cosmos divine because it is our mother are sustaining and the source of all reverence and wonder the word were divine is simply the metaphor we use to speak of the mystery of existence in the deeper significance of our interdependence with the Cosmos for US nature is sacred. So that is the summarize Asian of Nationalistic Pantheon. And so whenever I use the translate the word theism in Pan theism. I'm saying all is divine. Not all God because the word God has that connotation that we don't want The Universe is a person it doesn't contain a person that doesn't contain an intelligence All that we know is the Laws of nature. And we don't see any intelligence behind those laws loss so you would not follow the storks in that idea providence. Or anything like that. So hopefully that makes the clear so the question then becomes if nature and divine refer to the same thing why even have divine well it. It's not quite the same thing. Nature Feature is what it is divine is what it means so you could look at it as nature nature is an ontological name in divine is an existential name and that I think would be helpful. I think I think that's a good way of looking at it. So that nature is the logical it saying what is there. That's what science studies. The Natural Science Study Nature. Because that's what is and religion spirituality philosophy of life the deals with sacredness deals with divine. Fine what it means to us and it's important to understand this because it really is. We can see just in the way that humanity is interacting with the environment that we do not hold the nature's agers sacred we do not treat nature as sacred. We do not T- treat nature as divine line and so the importance of the meaning behind nature is is conveyed by the word divine or sacred Both words are important. Divine gets gets back to the idea of the importance of our interdependence with nature and the significant significance of it sacred deals with our respect for it so there's two different aspects ones aspect of all in wonder and connection and the other is a response a ethical response ponts to nature as being sacred is that we're respect that we care for it that we tried to harmonize with nature rather than dominate. It and I. I think that that's important so whenever I say divine. I'm trying to catch the significance of nature to us. So that's I mean the word nature doesn't catch that when I say that the that you know the natural world is all there is that that just tells me what is it so you know I know what is great but what does it mean to me. What's my relationship the ship to it and that's caught by the word divine so I'm trying to give the existential significance significance of nature by using the word divine and that's also important because it breaks through from just the idea that the object of world is all there is no? It's not. That's the thing that I really like about. The Yin Yang Symbol. The TAICHI symbol is. There is both the subjective and the objective the objective give being the white part in the subject of being the dark part. The dark part is the subjective that we don't see but we cannot interrelate to the world in words even in science. There's always going to be the interplay between the subjective and the objective objective and that interplay that dance if you will is part of being human. What Martin heidegger goals as the Dizon? Human being if you will human being MRS is distinct from objects. There's always always for us. As human beings an interplay between the subject of and the objective for every inside there is an outside and that for us is part of our human sits part of our human being this and again using that word dies in the idea that there's something unique about being that can't be caught or or expressed in mere words there's something about consciousness that allows us the ability to have a subjective experience of an objective reality and those two forever dance. And that's what we're trying to do in our life is be able to have a dance of the objective and the subjective to produce human flourishing. And that is the point of Bodey Dow. I was in the way of awakening. It's awakening to this human being us this ability to bring the subjective and the object together in a flourishing life a meaningful life a life of personal growth and significance and that is Bodey Dow awesome awesome. Well thank you so much for tuning into the podcast today. I appreciate it if you have.

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

04:06 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Things things are <hes> allows you to just concentrate on the things that you can change and then the <hes> one of the quotes of epa tedious is <hes> people are upset not by the event but by their interpretation of the event don't and that really gave birth has given birth to <hes> c._b._t. Which is cognitive behavioral therapy he which whole branch of psychology and it happens to be one of the most empirically verified <hes> psycho therapy's they are out there in other words. The real results are happening. <hes> is kind of interesting. You realize that i did buddhism what a one taoism wanna one and now stoicism one on one and two of them buddhism stoicism both have flourished flourished in a psychological <hes> framework buddhism in the mindfulness based <hes> therapies and i and stoicism in the cognitive base therapies so skinny interest in that both those would be seen as traditions that really had a a a lot of truth hundreds hundreds and thousands of years before psychology came into being and that's of course buddhism and stoicism mindfulness based therapies and cognitive based vase therapies and so today <hes> cognitive behavioral therapies probably leading <hes> therapy for a lot of different psychological difficulties <hes> problems in living and the really began with <hes> albert ellis and <hes> aaron back those are the two real fathers of aw cognitive therapy and they both in their works credit the storks as being an inspiration so you can look back and you can see the writings at both those credit stoicism as helping them discover basic principles of rational thinking of being realistic of you know coordinator thinking with the way things really are and <hes> you know. There's a lot of similarities if you and i have since i've studied both buddhism and stoicism there are actually a lot of similarities <hes> there's a lot to deal with the desires and aversions <hes> attachments versions <hes> both schools philosophies <hes> kind of look at that and say a yeah. That's probably where a lot of our problems come from. They both try to get to the point of ending. Suffering defined peace of mind and in buddhism is nevada in stoicism. It's adirek zia <hes> which is the greek word. It basically means <hes> it's usually translated tranquillity. <hes> inner peace inner contentment might be a better understanding of of it it basically gets back to the the the idea of equanimity a balanced mind <hes> in inner contentment and so- stoicism really deals with more the active cognitive aspect's buddhism more with the subject of mindfulness awareness aspects so buddhism develops your awareness and stoicism develops.

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

04:51 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Will <hes> and he wanted to find the the answer to this discontent this dissatisfaction this suffering and so he didn't get it in from those two grew so he decided to try sediq ascetic practices extremists citizen <hes> to the point where the pali canon says that you could see the his ribcage. I mean every single bone in his body. He was eating like one. You know one drop of rice a day kind of thing and he was so weak. He almost drowned when he was in the in water and he finally realize moishe they get. What am i doing this is. This is not getting any any closer to what i'm looking for. It's not given me the awakening i want and so at that point he ate <hes> aw and he at that point discovered what he's what's called the middle way in other words. You don't overindulge you. Don't <hes> under you know nurse the body either just give it what it needs are not what it wants but what it needs so there's a balance so he found balances basically the point of the middleware and although there's a whole philosophy developed later on that idea about the middle way that was the point at this at this stage in his development and so then he's like okay i remember back when i was a kid i was sitting and i went into a a meditative state and i just relaxed extend observed and and there is a very tranquil feeling and and he said well what i'll do is i will meditate and i will sit down and meditate until i find release from suffering and that's what he did and the story goes that he went through a number of <hes> <music> <hes> difficulties in his meditation and in the <hes> middle of the night <hes> he woke up and was awakened and that awakening brought forth the basic foundations of buddhism now when i say buddhism you have to understand that that's really a misnomer you should say buddhism's <hes> because every time buddhism left india and went into another culture adapted the culture and changed so when buddhism went to china for an example that developed into chan buddhism john buddhism left china and went into japan and became zen buddhism <hes> john buddhism some went into korean became son buddhism so it's one of those things it it migrates and as it migrates it switches and absorbs the culture pitcher <hes> to such an astonishing degree and went to tabet for an example in tibet it absorbed the bond religion and became tibetan buddhism so really and it changes quite a bit actually if you if you study the the pali canon new study zan there's a lot of differences for an example <hes> but the there's the foundation and <hes> stephen bachelor. I like the way he called it. He called it. The alphabet or the syntax of the dharma and the syntax of the dharma has basically the four noble truths and the eightfold noble path <hes> and different aspects of that like dependent origination and things of this nature but i wanna just touch on those those four or or those four noble truths and the eightfold noble path today because that's gives you the background to <hes> buddhism so so buddhism basically has what's called the four noble truths <hes> stephen bachelor prefers calls at the four tasks <hes> but the pali canon actually has it as the four noble truths <hes> you could say it's the four wise insights into reality into the way it is is <hes> and those four are the suffering is part of life <hes> the awaken life that the cause of suffering is and i'm going to translate it literally thirst..

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

02:05 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"There's <hes> Peter Singer in an animal liberation. If you want to look for the the moral thing you know if someone was to ask me. Are you doing veganism for the health or for the ethical morality to animals I would say my first reason is for the animals nmls. I will not be party to the death of an animal for no reason for me to eat something. That actually makes me. Unhealthy doesn't make any sense if I had to eat meat to survive that would be a different matter but we don't need to eat meat and it's not healthy. The World Health Organization has said that it is in fact a class one carthage process meat and red meat is a class to carthage on you want cancer eat process beat. That's what they're saying World Health Organization now you may Poop who the World Health Organization and stuff like that that's fine. I mean you welcome to you know disagree but again you know Dr Gregor has the evidence if you're interested in the evidence if you're not that's that's fine too. <hes> I for me the documentary that really spoke to me as what the health <hes>. I thought that that was excellent on you know just nailing it as far as the evidence and <hes> well rounded showing you what you know. The meeting actually does so but I went too far into that whole process so go ahead and it here creating a religion. I hope that you enjoyed this episode. If you have any suggestions for a future episode of you think there's a particular topic that I should address. I would more than like <hes> more than appreciate you drop me a line at Jay at j Nelson Forest Dot Com. You can also ask any questions that <hes> on that email..

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

12:48 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome to awakening i'm jim nelson for us today i wanna talk about what is knowledge so there's a branch of philosophy known as a pistol allergy pissed analogy is usually if you look it up is the fury of dowager the study knowledge and if you studied a pistol allergy at all you'll understand that 'em is they long contested issue of what is knowledge of what counts for knowledge 'em these standard definition of knowledge now this is justified tripoli's 'em and that's been kind of they standard definition of knowledge for many centuries dating back all the way till they classic philosophers and greek and rome justified true belief so the difficulty comes when a guy named getty or came up with several issues called the getty you're problems andy's problems indicate that in fact justified true belief may not be knowledge foreign example see in the this there's obviously multiple layers to the difficulty so if it is if i have a watch end hey wall clock and they both stop keeping time at eight o'clock and i look at them both at eight o'clock and i assume that it's eight o'clock do i have a justified drew believe dr damage so this isn't necessarily example the a was given but it does bring up the difficulty okay if i just happened to be justified i think i'm justified because i'm looking at my no risk watch in the wall clock and they both happened just say the correct time time it just happens to be eight o'clock the justification there seems it's justified to me but it isn't justified because those are accurate timepieces it just the happenstance that had happened to fall at eight o'clock then i looked at it if it was eight oh five and i looked at it and looked and saw it with eight o'clock and thought it was eight o'clock is the eight fired it would be not eight justified true believe it will be a false belief and so the accident of being eight o'clock when i look at the time pieces doesn't change the fact that if not an accurate measure of time so justified drubel if so that's one of the issues with that these other is the idea of true belief okay here they pretty much say that justified means that you have good reasons for believing it true means that the belief he is in fact correct it's the way it is so in that definition of true there are saying that it is the way it is and this is where my skepticism comes then my skepticism says the in this sense nothing is known with absolute certainty more very little very very very little i think therefore i some kind of situation might cause to doubt it means you're still thinking but beyond that nothing objector world is absolutely certain you could be a brain of at t is a common philosophical example or you could use they matrix 'em he could be like neo in the matrix you know how would you know if you're in a computer simulation sure that if it's the simulation is done correctly you wouldn't know which means than that everything that you believe would be falls everything so true to to to know something is certainly true is really not possible we can only know was a high degree of probability something is true so the say justified true believe it something becomes untenable unworkable unusable 'cause there's no way will ever know whether it's true for certain so justified truly fails on they getty you're accounts and it fails they definition definition the truth accounts so what do we used instead how do we define knowledge if you're going to define knowledge if you're going to deal with knowledge what do you call it if you eliminate that justified true belief what is the alternative and this is the one i i've struggled with this before i for a while i held to a justified highly probable belief or something some kind of an arrangement similar to that just because it matches more of the reality though we lou living but after much thought i i really come to the conclusion the best definition knowledge is justified reliable belief justified knowledge is justifiable reliable belief justified reliable belief and that just simply means that it's reliable means that it holds it doesn't mean it will hold in the future in there once it stops being reliable it stops being knowledge for example there was a time where we had really good reasons for believing that the world was stationary and the center of the universe we had really good reasons good observation or justified a that was a justified reliable believe because we had de visual evidence the sun rose in the east sat in the west the moon the stars all of that did the same so there's good reasons for believing that we didn't feel any movement i mean it back in the day if you got on a horse you'd feel the movement of the horse or if you walk you'd feel the movement of the walk or a few job do you feel the the motion of the jump so there is no reason to suspect that we're actually in motion we feel like we're in motion everything that we do we taurel we feel the motion motion why would that not why would we feel motion it was common sense obviously were the subtlety earth and it's the sun and the moon and the stars that a rise in setting so we had good is justified were justified and believe in it was reliable son kept coming up so it was knowledge people would say on that day i know the earth is the center of the universe so knowledge is how we used the term and if we're going to use terms today wouldn't make sense that have the match the way that we actually use them i mean we have things we have called knowledge that now are no longer knowledge newtonian physics one example was considered pretty solid now edge and then einstein came along and showed that in fact it was not knowledge so if it wasn't knowledge before was it knowledge i mean it's not knowledge now but we would consider knowledge before but when they were wrong so then there would be wrong knowledge which doesn't make any sense because how could you have wrong justified drew belief you can't because it would have to be a true believer therefore you just mislabeled acknowledge but it was never really knowledge so how do you know if you ever have knowledge if that's the case einstein physics might actually someday ceased to be quote unquote knowledge so say how on tenable it is how unworkable that definition of knowledge is so when you define knowledge as justified reliable belief than the reliability ceases the knowledge ceases you see it's built in that little wiggle room is built into the the definition of knowledge reliable ceased to be reliable now we know that's not knowledge to me it was of all the the de terms and definitions and struggles that i've seen with the term knowledge this is in fact v best definition that i've come up with and that i've seen is justified reliable believe so this is important enough pissed analogy for a number of reasons one of which could be helpful if you're gonna talk about something they have a good working definition the second is that definition has be apply in different situations so back in the day when we believe the earth was the center of the universe in observation matched it are own commonsense match did and there is no evidence to the contrary therefore justified reliable knowledge it was knowledge it was genuine knowledge it was reliable and then when a galileo leo and others a showed in fact that the earth is not the center of the universe but they were rotated around the sun it ceased to be dealt which it stopped being reliable evidence showed it unreliable and therefore it ceased to be knowledge before that it was knowledge after new evidence came in showed that it wasn't knowledge that follows the reliability factor and not true or not true true which is unverifiable in in the real world so reliable and not reliable actually happens certain truth never happens will never know the truth street through certain in this life of their objective world anyway will never know absolutely certain what is there isn't any objective world but we know it's reliable what actually holds true one holds true to the evidence and so justified reliable belief is knowledge i.

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

10:18 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome friends. I'm Jay Elson Forrest. Thank you for joining me for another addition of a weakening. So I wanna talk about scientific naturalism. So one of the difficulties is tried to explain how Bodey Taoism is different from any number of religions and the best way that I can explain it is that Bodey Taoism is based upon scientific naturalism. So I guess the, the most important thing for me to do at this particular point is explained what Bodey Taoism or what's scientific naturalism is that bodied, how is amiss based on. So this is my definition of scientific naturalism scientific naturalism is the view that based on the evidence. The natural world is all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. So I'm gonna read that again. Scientific natural is is of you that based on the evidence the natural world has all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. So that's the basic meaning of scientific naturalism. That's what Bodey Taoism is based on, if you don't agree with scientific naturalism than Bodey Taoism is not for you. We follow the evidence. We file were science leads us. Now. There's some things I want to point out in this definition. Because when I talked to people about naturalism, they get confused. There's a difference between what's called philosophical naturalism and. Methodological naturalism, methodological naturalism is what science uses science basically brackets, supernatural claims, and simply studies. In other words, they don't look for supernatural answers, if they pop up another matter, they haven't, but if they did. That'd be another matter, but they're not looking for them because there's no evidence and no reason to look for the supernatural. Results. So methodological naturalism is what science use uses now in philosophy. We use naturalism in a different sense. We mean the natural all there is, and that can be verified. If anybody wants to search into I mean, you really have to basic positions, naturalism, the natural world is all there is supernatural, the natural world is not all there is those are really your only two options, either the natural world is all there is or it's not. Of course, there is the option of not believing in the natural world at all. But that's a whole nother ball of Bala wax. I mean, if you really can't help you, if you don't believe in the natural world. I often suggest people go into the room and smack themselves until they believe in the natural world. But you have to begin with the natural world and the evidence shows if you follow the evidence there is no evidence for the supernatural. So if you hypothesize the supernatural you're doing so outside of evidence outside of faith, and really are not interested in truth. You're interested in what you believe in other words, truth is no longer important. Your belief is what's important. And that Trump's evidence. In other words, you have faith, faith is except in a claim as true without evidence, and that will get you into all kinds of problems. I mean, literally there hundreds of thousands of different religions both now and throughout history, and no to actually agree. So which one is the right one. There is no right, one because you have no standard to decide which ones. Right. So one belief is a good as another. So you can't criticize anybody. If you believe in, if you. Operate on faith. Anything is true for you. Truth doesn't mean anything. So for me, you have to begin with you have to be done with scientific naturalism, if you don't you might as well just believe whatever your ancestors, believed or whatever, whatever you feel like believing. I mean it really truth is not important at that point, it's basically whatever you like. And that's what most people in spirituality. Do they go through in there, if they don't like their particular region, the born in, they kind of make their own, eclectic Lee? Pick this a little bit of that. And you know I like this Abboud ISM has a good thing over here. I'll take that I'll take a little Hinduism over there, all take a side of Judaism, little Kabbalah about some NAS descent. And oh, let's see. So it's like a smorgasbord you just you go to the dinner to the, the potluck of re. Religions debt and current and you just pick, whatever you want. Because truth doesn't matter because evidence doesn't matter. If evidence doesn't matter, the truth doesn't matter truth is the correspondence between thought and reality, and they'll the way you're gonna know there, if there's correspondences by the evidence, that's the only way not sub subjective feeling not some hunch, you have to have the evidence and by evidence. I mean verifiable evidence evidence that everybody can see if it evidence just for you. It's not evidence, so you have to start with scientific naturalism. Now, there's a couple of things I wanna point out in my definition scientific naturalism is not a. Bias? It's not a. Hypothesis. It's based on the evidence. There is no evidence for the supernatural there is evidence for the natural. That's like saying, okay, we're going to operate, our lives based upon the belief that there are no unicorns. And until there is evidence of unicorns, we're going to believe that there's no unicorns that seems pretty reasonable. Okay. It's the same thing, the natural world exist. Therefore, we're gonna work on the assumption the natural world exists until there's evidence of a supernatural, then if the evidence is, is sufficient, then will believe in the supernatural, but we are not going to jump into that. Unless there's good reason to believe so good, solid in pure ical objective verifiable evidence. So that's why I put in there based on the evidence. It's not just a, it's a presupposition based on the evidence. It's not just an unfair verifiable presupposition. It's a subset, and it's based upon the, the idea of autumn's razor, do not multiply entities beyond what is necessary. If your if all spiritual experiences can be explained by the natural. There is no new need for supernatural and that's my argument. There is no need for supernatural, mystical experiences can be explained by nature mysticism your connection and interconnection with the cosmos, we know that people who have experiences of one this with nature have the same essential one nece with nature that people have with one -ness of what they call God, but they don't understand that. God is an interpretation. It's not the experience the feeling of one. This is the experience. The interpretation is God nature. Those are. Interpretations. You have to separate the experience from the interpretation and all experiences can be explained under the interpretation of naturalism without reducing it to non meaning new understand. There's some people that want to reduce it to, to nothing, you know that it's just allusion. No, the experiences are real that feeling one. This is real. And we know from science that everything is interconnected. So it actually makes sense that we'd have these experiences. So again, we go back to scientific naturalism the natural world is all there is. And that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. This is important, please, listen carefully. I did not say science is the only means of knowledge about this world, just the best. Okay. Science is not the only way we know things. But a lot of the things we know outside of science is open for interpretation and is unverified will or not usually verified. So some of those things are true about nature and some of those things might not be true about this world, but is our best, most reliable most solid knowledge that we have, but not our only, and you have to understand that because this is where people, you know, misunderstand scientific naturalism love is not a is not an empirical thing. You can show by science. That doesn't mean that love is not true or real or an actual thing in the world. It is. But it's not verifiable by science. The actions may be, and we might be able to, to get into some neuro science and stuff like that. That to verify a mental state of, of love or something like this. But right now, we don't have the capacity to do that. But just because science can't verify it doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. What I'm saying is in the natural world has all there is and sciences, the best means of knowing about this world. That's all I'm saying. So now that means that there are number of truth claims that are made, and I would say, a truth claim is wrong under these seven circumstances. A truth claim is wrong if it is not..

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

10:18 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome friends. I'm Jay Elson Forrest. Thank you for joining me for another addition of a weakening. So I wanna talk about scientific naturalism. So one of the difficulties is tried to explain how Bodey Taoism is different from any number of religions and the best way that I can explain it is that Bodey Taoism is based upon scientific naturalism. So I guess the, the most important thing for me to do at this particular point is explained what Bodey Taoism or what's scientific naturalism is that bodied, how is amiss based on. So this is my definition of scientific naturalism scientific naturalism is the view that based on the evidence. The natural world is all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. So I'm gonna read that again. Scientific natural is is of you that based on the evidence the natural world has all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. So that's the basic meaning of scientific naturalism. That's what Bodey Taoism is based on, if you don't agree with scientific naturalism than Bodey Taoism is not for you. We follow the evidence. We file were science leads us. Now. There's some things I want to point out in this definition. Because when I talked to people about naturalism, they get confused. There's a difference between what's called philosophical naturalism and. Methodological naturalism, methodological naturalism is what science uses science basically brackets, supernatural claims, and simply studies. In other words, they don't look for supernatural answers, if they pop up another matter, they haven't, but if they did. That'd be another matter, but they're not looking for them because there's no evidence and no reason to look for the supernatural. Results. So methodological naturalism is what science use uses now in philosophy. We use naturalism in a different sense. We mean the natural all there is, and that can be verified. If anybody wants to search into I mean, you really have to basic positions, naturalism, the natural world is all there is supernatural, the natural world is not all there is those are really your only two options, either the natural world is all there is or it's not. Of course, there is the option of not believing in the natural world at all. But that's a whole nother ball of Bala wax. I mean, if you really can't help you, if you don't believe in the natural world. I often suggest people go into the room and smack themselves until they believe in the natural world. But you have to begin with the natural world and the evidence shows if you follow the evidence there is no evidence for the supernatural. So if you hypothesize the supernatural you're doing so outside of evidence outside of faith, and really are not interested in truth. You're interested in what you believe in other words, truth is no longer important. Your belief is what's important. And that Trump's evidence. In other words, you have faith, faith is except in a claim as true without evidence, and that will get you into all kinds of problems. I mean, literally there hundreds of thousands of different religions both now and throughout history, and no to actually agree. So which one is the right one. There is no right, one because you have no standard to decide which ones. Right. So one belief is a good as another. So you can't criticize anybody. If you believe in, if you. Operate on faith. Anything is true for you. Truth doesn't mean anything. So for me, you have to begin with you have to be done with scientific naturalism, if you don't you might as well just believe whatever your ancestors, believed or whatever, whatever you feel like believing. I mean it really truth is not important at that point, it's basically whatever you like. And that's what most people in spirituality. Do they go through in there, if they don't like their particular region, the born in, they kind of make their own, eclectic Lee? Pick this a little bit of that. And you know I like this Abboud ISM has a good thing over here. I'll take that I'll take a little Hinduism over there, all take a side of Judaism, little Kabbalah about some NAS descent. And oh, let's see. So it's like a smorgasbord you just you go to the dinner to the, the potluck of re. Religions debt and current and you just pick, whatever you want. Because truth doesn't matter because evidence doesn't matter. If evidence doesn't matter, the truth doesn't matter truth is the correspondence between thought and reality, and they'll the way you're gonna know there, if there's correspondences by the evidence, that's the only way not sub subjective feeling not some hunch, you have to have the evidence and by evidence. I mean verifiable evidence evidence that everybody can see if it evidence just for you. It's not evidence, so you have to start with scientific naturalism. Now, there's a couple of things I wanna point out in my definition scientific naturalism is not a. Bias? It's not a. Hypothesis. It's based on the evidence. There is no evidence for the supernatural there is evidence for the natural. That's like saying, okay, we're going to operate, our lives based upon the belief that there are no unicorns. And until there is evidence of unicorns, we're going to believe that there's no unicorns that seems pretty reasonable. Okay. It's the same thing, the natural world exist. Therefore, we're gonna work on the assumption the natural world exists until there's evidence of a supernatural, then if the evidence is, is sufficient, then will believe in the supernatural, but we are not going to jump into that. Unless there's good reason to believe so good, solid in pure ical objective verifiable evidence. So that's why I put in there based on the evidence. It's not just a, it's a presupposition based on the evidence. It's not just an unfair verifiable presupposition. It's a subset, and it's based upon the, the idea of autumn's razor, do not multiply entities beyond what is necessary. If your if all spiritual experiences can be explained by the natural. There is no new need for supernatural and that's my argument. There is no need for supernatural, mystical experiences can be explained by nature mysticism your connection and interconnection with the cosmos, we know that people who have experiences of one this with nature have the same essential one nece with nature that people have with one -ness of what they call God, but they don't understand that. God is an interpretation. It's not the experience the feeling of one. This is the experience. The interpretation is God nature. Those are. Interpretations. You have to separate the experience from the interpretation and all experiences can be explained under the interpretation of naturalism without reducing it to non meaning new understand. There's some people that want to reduce it to, to nothing, you know that it's just allusion. No, the experiences are real that feeling one. This is real. And we know from science that everything is interconnected. So it actually makes sense that we'd have these experiences. So again, we go back to scientific naturalism the natural world is all there is. And that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. This is important, please, listen carefully. I did not say science is the only means of knowledge about this world, just the best. Okay. Science is not the only way we know things. But a lot of the things we know outside of science is open for interpretation and is unverified will or not usually verified. So some of those things are true about nature and some of those things might not be true about this world, but is our best, most reliable most solid knowledge that we have, but not our only, and you have to understand that because this is where people, you know, misunderstand scientific naturalism love is not a is not an empirical thing. You can show by science. That doesn't mean that love is not true or real or an actual thing in the world. It is. But it's not verifiable by science. The actions may be, and we might be able to, to get into some neuro science and stuff like that. That to verify a mental state of, of love or something like this. But right now, we don't have the capacity to do that. But just because science can't verify it doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. What I'm saying is in the natural world has all there is and sciences, the best means of knowing about this world. That's all I'm saying. So now that means that there are number of truth claims that are made, and I would say, a truth claim is wrong under these seven circumstances. A truth claim is wrong if it is not..

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

14:26 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome to awaken in, I'm Jay Nelson forest today. I'm going to be talking about the wheel of the year. Now the wheel of the year is my version of it. There are several pagan versions of the wheel the year. The most common is within Wicca, the of course, have the winter and summer solstice and the spring, and fall equinoxes. And then they'll have the festivals between there. So usually end up with eight spokes on the wheel the year. So I'm going to share my version of the wheel the year and the body Taoist version of the wheel ear. So as you know, Bodey Taoism has if you bet listening to the podcast, or you've read my website, you'll that Bodey Taoism has eight wisdom traditions and so what we'd like to do. It was like to incorporate these wisdom traditions into a wheel of the year to help us to remember the different streams that helped give us it's ration-. They give us perspective on. There's eight different viewpoints that we can look at something from. And so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go ahead. Give you the dates and the traditions and then I'll give you a little cermony to perform on each of these days. So they match pretty closely to the, the wiccan or pagan wheel the year as far as dates, the only difference is that we're actually celebrating wisdom tradition during these things. So we'll go head start with the first one, which is December twenty fifth which is Christianity that seems pretty obvious that we've be celebrating since Christianity is one of the wisdom traditions. We'd be celebrated on December twenty fifth now of course of all the wisdom traditions Christianity's on that causes us the most difficulty because it's the least scientifically naturalistic of the wisdom traditions. But we interpret Christianity from a mythic standpoint, Richard character has a whole series of books on the mythic Christ and how crisis really can be interpreted as a myth and the history of Christ as a myth, and there's many things that grew up within Christianity, especially in the monastic traditions, that are helpful for a spiritual disciplines so we go ahead and incorporate those so December twenty fifth is the first and that is Christianity. The next is February second and on February second. We celebrate Gina sim and Jane ISM was a religion that was founded many years before Maha Veira, but Mahavir is the most. Current one in this was he was considered either just before the Buddha or contemporary with the Buddha during his time and Mahaveroo taught tune the main things is onto cut vodka, which is non absolutism that means there's many different ways to look at something, and we need to look at things from different viewpoints. And that's in fact, what this the traditions is about trying to look at things from different viewpoints. And the other thing is a his MMA, which is nonviolence is usually how it transit. I prefer to translate as non-harming. And that's we're the vegetarianism comes from is Janus and also Buddhism. But Jane ISM was much stronger on it, and then March twenty first is the celebration of Taoism and Taoism. We. Go back to philosophical. Dow Eliza the Dow day Jing and the original idea of Taoism, not so much the religious Taoism that turned lousy into a God. But more the philosophical aspects of Taoism all these traditions have difficulties with them. Otherwise, we'd be, you know, we'd be one of them. So please understand that every single one of these wisdom traditions. There is some aspect of either they add a God. They add the supernatural that an afterlife either in the form of heaven, hell, or rebirth reincarnation, or they completely eliminate the spiritual and none of these traditions, do, but humanism did eliminate secular humanism usually eliminates spiritual to spirituality. Altogether. And that might come under Confucianism is probably the closest to humanism, and we'd consider that part of that stream, so and Jane ISM than December twenty first Taoism, March twenty first and then maye Firth is epicure, Newsham epicurious had the fourfold cure, which is do not fear the gods. Do not fear death. What is good is easy to come by what his heart as easy to avoid June twenty-first would be Buddhism, and Buddhism, of course, is probably the for me one of the main traditions of practice. Its biggest problem is the idea of rebirth, the six realms and cosmic karma. Those are things that we don't accept in wouldn't accept and so. Buddhism would be unacceptable to a scientific naturalist, but there are elements within Buddhism that are acceptable, so June twenty first is Buddhism. I would also say that June twenty first since it's my birthday and I'm the founder of Bodey Taoism that it also is a celebration of Bodey Taoism and August. I is stoicism and stoicism is tradition that Zeno began tracing some of its roots back to Socrates giving it a particular flavor and stoicism is definitely an important tradition in cognitive behavior therapy as Buddhism is in mindfulness based stress reduction, and then September twenty twenty-first is Confucianism and Confucianism is a lot about the verb. Virtues and about. Being courteous in society and being respectful and things of this nature, about self cultivation and then Octo thirty I is paganism so paganism, of course, Tober thirty I is dean with all hallows eve, Sal Hain is called by them. And so we would actually the wheel of the fifth of the wheel the year actually matches on that day would match up perfectly with their highest day, which is, of course, signed so we have December twenty first being Christianity, February second Jane, ISM, March thirty or twenty first Taoism may, I epic unionism, June twenty-first Buddhism, August first stoicism September twenty first Confucianism October thirty first paganism, so that's the basic. We'll of the year the body douse Tweedle of the year, and then the simple ceremony that I recommend. And I'll go ahead and put this on the website. So if you want the d-actually script for this, I'll put it on the website and what it would be is. You basically the what you'd need is you need a candle and a grape juice, or, or something of this, this nature to drink, and what you do is you would sit maybe by yourself or if you're with the family, you can do it with your family on to do it for if it was just yourself, but the I can be we in these things. So what you do as you'd sit down. You'd say, I take a moment to remember the teachings of and you'd name the wisdom tradition. The next one is Buddhism, saw us Buddhism, which is June. Twenty first I take a moment to remember the teachings of Buddhism. And the light it gives me and then I would light the candle. Then I would say I'm moment of reflection that I would say. I drink in honor of Buddhism may use his teachings wisely on my path of awakening. And then I would drink the juice. And then you can have a meal, leaving the candle lit during the meal beginning with, like an affirmation such as I give thanks to all beings, helping this food to our table and vowed respondent, turn to those in need with wisdom, and compassion. Let me mindfully and then after the meal, you blow out the candle. And that'd be a simple way of remembering the day. The other thing you could do is either watch a YouTube video on Buddhism. Read a Wiki pedia article on Buddhism, or some kind of a short introduction on what Buddhism is just to remind yourself of the basic teachings the four noble truths. The eight fold noble path things of the state should remind you of the Buddha end the teachings of the Buddha, now known to us as Buddhism in one of our wisdom traditions. So that is the wheel. Of the year for Bodey Taoists, and it would help. I think to kind of help you incorporate these things in your life to kind of get a, a rhythm to cow harmonize with nature. So if you want, like I said, I'll, I'll put that stuff in the show notes, so you'll have the script for that and also incorporate the give you the dates to. So if you go over to j Nelson forest dot com, and you'll look for the wheel of the year, you'll be able to find this with the simple ritual in order for you to participate. And this is a very simple way to practice your body Taoism other ways of practice and of courses through mindfulness meditation. Loving kindness meditation being charitable to others, you know stoic practices are also acceptable, and some of the other practices are acceptable. Just remember that all practices are based on basically there have to be based upon reason evidence and natural. So we want to make sure that we're thinking critically about what we're doing. We want to base it on naturalism way, what to base it upon evidence in to look at the results it's having their life. So when you start a spiritual practice, you know, take note, even if you have to do it, you know, in, like a little note pad or something, the effects of before, and after your meditation or spiritual practice, whatever you're doing and see if it's making a difference in your life. If it's not you might not be doing it, right. You might need more. -struction in. And maybe it's something that you don't need to be doing this particular time. But so that's the wheel of the year. And I hope that, that helps you incorporate Bodey Taoism in the eight wisdom. Traditions known as the streams better into your life. I also wanna make a note. I have updated the summer Sophia. The latest update is now on the website. It's not. You don't have to go to academia dot EDU the way, the website actually will have the current most up to date version of the summit Sephiha, and I am currently in the process of updating it. Because I'm hopefully next week. I'm going to start writing the next book that will incorporate the sumus Sophia into a complete. Try to get some of the stuff some of the stuff have been working on onto a page and systematic orders so that there's actually a book that you'll have that will have the, the current update the, the Kerr the most current one, of course, is spirituality without God, but unfortunately, that still had the original four dishes. And now, as you know, we're at eight traditions and the aid, of course matches the eight pointed compass that we're using as the symbol for bony Taoism. So with all that explained probably to death on gonna go ahead and leave you for this week.

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

10:09 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"You could call it personal growth. You could call it spiritual growth, but it actually minds both. So let's start with the two aspects of the process of I growth or psycho spiritual growth. The first is the process of personal growth. Now, Stephen Kobe is the one that I originally got this from. But my understanding he got it from somebody else's. Well so and basically your growth takes place in three stages. You go through a process of dependence, like when you're four years old and stuff, you're kinda dependent on people then in your teenage years you go through the independence process, and then somewhere hopefully in adulthood, you go through an interdependence stage where you realize that all things are connected. And this actually can be subdivided. This is what I subdivide interdependence into two phases. The social interdependence and cosmic interdependence, the socialists when you realize that people are. Dependent on one another in that you both have to be dependent and. Be people have depend on you and you have to depend on others, and there has to be that independence as well. So it's kind of a combination between dependence and independence and social is realizing that the entire society is connected. We're all in this together kind of concept, and then the further stages, Cozma interdependence, and that is sorely needed in our society today. We need to realize that all things are connected. Natures connected, and we need to understand our interdependence on nature interconnection. And so that's the three basic or four stages of personal growth. And of course, the goal of personal growth is flourishing, which I've talked about many times, which combines the personal growth. Which is what the aspect of talking about now. Inner peace, equanimity tranquility and meaning in life. So. That's the process. So you and you can see this, that you can see a lot of people that go through a long period of dependence, who haven't really immature to independence and you have those that are still stuck in the teenage attitude of independence to do my own thing. My way or the highway kind of idea. And then you have mature adults reaching the place of interdependence. Socially, and then even a smaller amount of people, grow into cosmic interdependence, or global interdependence. If you will. So that's the personal growth part. Now the spiritual growth yet understand my definition of spirituality and spirit. So I defined spirit as consciousness. So spirituality deals with the deepening and widening of consciousness of our wariness of our connection with reality with nature. And so this goes through three stages. The subconscious the self conscious and the super conscious. Now, you probably heard self-conscious before, that's when you reach that point of Indian independence, and you can see they coincide, very well, with the, the personal growth, sub-conscious, that is the things that are not conscious of the things that rule us during our dependence stage. We become self conscious in our independent stage and we've become super super conscious in our interdependence stage out, of course, the two aspects of that means social and cosmic. So sub-conscious is when you're just not aware, you're living your life on autopilot. And a lot of people don't get past this. Until late in life where they realize really more to life than just going through the motions living by the some conscious urges, just going out and, and living that way. And you can see the subconscious carries into the self conscious, but self conscious is really when you begin to realize that, you know, you are your own person, you begin to realize you are, you know, your own controller your own caretaker, and this goes back to an old idea that I don't find very much talked about, except by back in the early days, eighteen hundred something like that this thing of personal self government that means you've got to govern yourself, self control, but self gurvey. It contains. Two government has to do two things. Nafta do them. Well, they have to control and the half to care. And those a trade off between the two. So you got to do the same for yourself. You've got to control yourself because you're pretty much the absolute monarch over your own. Body and psyche. And you've got to also care for yourself. A lot of people don't understand that. Self governance, governance tixx, both those aspects you gotta take care of yourself and even though you're supposed to love your neighbor as yourself, you have more control, and therefore more responsibility to care for yourself. Not selfishly, not at the expense of others, but the fact that you have control of yourself means that you do take care of yourself, I because otherwise you're no good to help others if that makes sense. So you've got to make sure that you understand that self self-governance deals, specifically with that aspect taking care of yourself and controlling yourself. And of course, control is, is use very little that we actually can control. I actually divide this into three phases. Which we can control that which we can influence and that which we cannot control or influence. So. If you're familiar with the stoic, they had the dichotomy of choice, and the Kadhamy choices things you can control and things that you cannot control. And I think this is accurate. I think it's helpful, but I don't think it is the complete picture, there are things you can influence. By words and actions and deeds. That you should whenever you can but not at the expense of your own. Highest good. So you go through these stages of sub-conscious, and self conscious you reach the stage of super conscious. Now, you might wonder what the heck is super conscious. So if you look up Mariam Webster dot com, you'll see that super conscious can be defined as of relating to, or possessing the highest consciousness, or margin of consciousness above that within the ordinary range attention, the Oxford, dictionary defines as transcending human or normal consciousness. And I would that's probably the easiest super consciousness is that consciousness was transcends normal consciousness. The APA dictionary, the American, psychological. Cessation dictionary says in the tradition of humanistic psychology a higher state of awareness that is associated with creative inspiration, spiritual insight and the teammate of peak experiences or spiritual experiences, I'd prefer to say, so, of course, they're talking about Abraham modules definition of peak experiences there. So those are the three basic stages of growth, both in the spiritual which is the subconscious self conscious and super conscious and the personal aspects which is dependent interdependent independence and interdependence. Both an interdependent, of course can reach the social, and then the cosmic levels, which is the highest that we can hope for as a species is to reach the cosmic. Awareness of our interdependence that all things are interdependent. So those are the basic stages of psycho spiritual growth. I hope that, that helped you kind of put some conceptualization to the process of personal growth we get into different aspects like the hero's journey, and, and things like that, and how they correspond to this. But we'll go ahead and pass that on past that up for today. I appreciate you. Joining me just wanted to let you know that we are now an iheartradio. So if you have I heart radio can look for waking with Jay Nelson forced, and you'll find it on iheartradio. And with that I will bid you do and have a great day. And until next time may wisdom guide just ups on the path of awakening..

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

11:32 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Uh-huh. Welcome to awakening. I'm Jay Nelson forest today. I wanna talk about psychology and spirituality. So as I've been continually continuing my study. I've taken the dive into what's called trans personal psychology. And the reason I've left that particular branch of psychology for last to delve into is because it hasn't Tennessee to. Crossed the lines from a science into religion. It is kind of like a religious psychology. And what I mean by that is they will accept paranormal. Phenomenon such as psychic abilities, clairvoyance, ghosts demons. Spiritual worlds. It's kind of like a. Acceptance of the religious aspects, but trying to deal with it from a psychological. In other words, it's not institutional in the sense. It's not a church. It's not a denomination. It's kind of like a psychological version of the Asif iw. With the. CIO Sophy kind of throws everything into one big bundle. You know, it's, it's kind of the, the catalyst for the new age movement. So the new age movement does pretty much. Express some the eclecticism the in. Oh, there's no truth. But your own truth can of idea, even though they claim that no truth is hire them or no religions higher than truth. The truth are speaking of is your own truce. So it's a very subjective truth in that sense. And that's why you have different Theophilus going different directions because there's not any real direction, it's kind of like these all teach the same thing you've got to figure out how they are the same because, you know, if if you know anything about Christianity and Buddhism, they're not the same thing. And there's no way that you can harmonize those two things. With, like Teradata Buddhism, and even Djelic Christianity. Those things are not no matter how many maneuvers and, and contortions you go into there's no way to reconcile those if you're honest with the, the systems themselves, and what they do is they're, they're dishonest in the sense that they. Reinterpret those in the archetypal setting. And then try to, you know, bake all, you know, square pegs fit the round holes. So the JAMA men and, and they're not honest with the, the, the, the traditions themselves. So, so that's my problem with why postpone getting into transfers transferral psychology. 'cause I knew that it embraced aspects that were not verifiable by science and departed from the. Lou world view that I hold, which is naturalism the natural world has all there is. And because of that, I knew that I'd be treading on two areas that in which I disagreed. And so when I got to into the study and started looking at much of the material, I found that I was actually correct. You know you have things that in there like, you know, levitated and. The soul. Some these spiritual healing stuff near death experiences. The shock rose. Things of this nature. That, of course, science hasn't verified that such things exist. And then to build your whole psychology on something that's not verifiable to me, doesn't sound like a good plan. So that's why. Kind of a void getting into until now, one of the things, though, that I did think about when I was doing, this is really, we need to distinguish, even if we take psychology in it's more naturalistic sense. And that's what I do cognitive therapy, things of this nature, even many of things Carl Jung has said qualify within the natural Listrik setting although he does crossover and I would consider him. Favorable to transversal psychology in some of the things he says, having now studied him pretty intently gone through his. Autobiography and several of his students works about him and having a an unthought of stuff and having read his stuff directly, I would say that he has a tendency to cross that line when he gets into the cult and he is commitment to imperialism keeps him from going too far astray, I think, and his insights are actually very, very profound. That's why we're still talking about him. I think he's right on it. So much that it to dismiss him would be a shame. However, I think it'd be good to kind of distinguish between the difference between psychology and spirituality, which is a little bit of a different issue. So I'm changing just a little bit. And that's what I kind of want to talk about a little bit here on the podcast. So Morita statement that I wrote as I was studying on the transportation psychology and the difference between humanistic and transversal. And how all developed, and this is the statement psychology deals with flourishing, well, spirituality deals with the Wakeling, and I think that's perfect. Psychology deals with flourishing. Now, most psychology deals with the opposite of that. That's dysfunction disorder where not only is the person not flourishing. But the person's not function in society, and that's actually were Sigmund Freud and psychology came from behavioral ISM and cognitive behavioral therapy, they all deal with the dysfunction, part of that. So you have the flourishing but you also have the failing the dysfunction, the. You know breakdown of. The human personality in social context. And so the idea is psychology came first from the negative to deal with the negative aspects mental illness, was the, the thing if we understand mental illness as a metaphor. Not literal. It's all right. But there is not really an illness. There's no such thing as a mental illness in the sense of a psychological disorder. It's not an illness like a disease. It's a it's, it's a disorder. A dysfunction thinks aren't working. They're not they're not functioning correctly. It's not some kind of disease. That's infected. And the reason I even bring this up is. Thomas. I believe it was Thomas is as did a book called the myth of mental illness, and that was one of his big points. And I think he's right on in, in a lot of what he says there. So the important part here that I want to get at is that psychology is dealing. I originally with dysfunction, that means the opposite of flourishing floundering, if you will, or something to that affect. And was trying to bring them up to at least functionalism and then now psychology. Well, really humanistic psychology started the ball rolling positive psychology, is the newest incarnation of this motivation to deal with the flourishing, part, and even positive psychology has struggled with this whole idea flourishing. I don't think they're terminology was very clear. I think they're trying to make people more happy and happiness is a is a slippery term because happiness is a subjective state. That is. It's fleeting. And if you aim for happiness, you'll never achieve it, it's one of those things, that's kind of like the aim to be happy, and that's your aim. And that's what you do. You're guaranteed never get it because happiness is a byproduct of on selfishness, pursuing happiness for yourself is a selfish project. So you're destroying the very means that you aim to get the happiness. So happiness is a sense of pleasure, good. Feelings things of this nature to me. It's very shallow. That's a, that's a fleeting thing that comes and goes in life. What is deeper? And the reason that I use it as I go back to Aerostat. All his idea of you die. Monia you'd Omonia is a Greek word that is best translated as flourishing. It's, it's deep wellbeing. And he. He basically tied it to the virtues that I believe that that's right. I think that the unselfish altruistic endeavor to take responsibility, or life is what brings the flourishing. That, that's, that's the, the key to flourishing that you cannot flourish.

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Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

05:37 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Uh-huh. Welcome to awakening. I'm Jay Nelson forest today. I wanna talk about psychology and spirituality. So as I've been continually continuing my study. I've taken the dive into what's called trans personal psychology. And the reason I've left that particular branch of psychology for last to delve into is because it hasn't Tennessee to. Crossed the lines from a science into religion. It is kind of like a religious psychology. And what I mean by that is they will accept paranormal. Phenomenon such as psychic abilities, clairvoyance, ghosts demons. Spiritual worlds. It's kind of like a. Acceptance of the religious aspects, but trying to deal with it from a psychological. In other words, it's not institutional in the sense. It's not a church. It's not a denomination. It's kind of like a psychological version of the Asif iw. With the. CIO Sophy kind of throws everything into one big bundle. You know, it's, it's kind of the, the catalyst for the new age movement. So the new age movement does pretty much. Express some the eclecticism the in. Oh, there's no truth. But your own truth can of idea, even though they claim that no truth is hire them or no religions higher than truth. The truth are speaking of is your own truce. So it's a very subjective truth in that sense. And that's why you have different Theophilus going different directions because there's not any real direction, it's kind of like these all teach the same thing you've got to figure out how they are the same because, you know, if if you know anything about Christianity and Buddhism, they're not the same thing. And there's no way that you can harmonize those two things. With, like Teradata Buddhism, and even Djelic Christianity. Those things are not no matter how many maneuvers and, and contortions you go into there's no way to reconcile those if you're honest with the, the systems themselves, and what they do is they're, they're dishonest in the sense that they. Reinterpret those in the archetypal setting. And then try to, you know, bake all, you know, square pegs fit the round holes. So the JAMA men and, and they're not honest with the, the, the, the traditions themselves. So, so that's my problem with why postpone getting into transfers transferral psychology. 'cause I knew that it embraced aspects that were not verifiable by science and departed from the. Lou world view that I hold, which is naturalism the natural world has all there is. And because of that, I knew that I'd be treading on two areas that in which I disagreed. And so when I got to into the study and started looking at much of the material, I found that I was actually correct. You know you have things that in there like, you know, levitated and. The soul. Some these spiritual healing stuff near death experiences. The shock rose. Things of this nature. That, of course, science hasn't verified that such things exist. And then to build your whole psychology on something that's not verifiable to me, doesn't sound like a good plan. So that's why. Kind of a void getting into until now, one of the things, though, that I did think about when I was doing, this is really, we need to distinguish, even if we take psychology in it's more naturalistic sense. And that's what I do cognitive therapy, things of this nature, even many of things Carl Jung has said qualify within the natural Listrik setting although he does crossover and I would consider him.

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Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

06:51 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome to awake at. I'm Jay Nelson forest today wanna talk about deconstructing God. So what I wanna do is. I want since we've decided to rive decided to incorporate. God talk. I've decided to go ahead in. Really take apart the concept of God a little further than just the normal idea of God. So what I did is. I originally thought well, you know, there's many. Subdivisions we can go through on God. But really today I just wanna talk about four four concepts that you can subdivide God into and they are fate personal ideal ultimate concern and reality. So I want to break that down to those four and just kinda delve into each one a little bit so fade is basically the fact that you're not in control of the world. You're not in control of the way things. Go your and the stoicism was really good at saying you need to understand what's actually under your control. And what's not? And I don't think that we're. Usually conscious of just how much is not under our control. Basically just about everything in your life is not under your control, not that you can't have some influence, but it's not as you control only that which you completely direct is under your control, even your body. You know is not completely under your control something as as connected to you as possible your body, you can't control whether your body gets sick or tired or any of the number of things. What color your eyes are? There's a lot of things that you can't control. So our spear of control is actually much smaller than we actually realize. And although we do have influence in in things of the world pretty much everybody in our lives is not under control pretty much every. Thing in the world is not under our control. We might be able to have influence on a person or a thing or Nevada, but is just an influence. We can't control it. And so the the great teaching of stoicism to concentrate on that, which is in your control and stoicism actually defines a refers to God is part of the the fate or the destiny or the fortune of people and to surrender to that. The the thing I disagree with stoicism on is they say that that's that. God that fate that destiny that fortune is alternately for your good, and there's some advantages to be an optimistic. But I think that the universe is indifferent. It doesn't care about you. So. Whatever God, we conceive that God has to be an end in different God. And if it's an indifferent God than it has to be more like fate and fortune and the working out of the laws of nature. So the second. Aspect of God that I'm looking at today. And like you said, we could probably subdivide. Over and over again. But I'm just picking these four is a personal ideal. So think of this when you think of God, and you think of we'll just take the Christian. God says most familiar with people. There's the imitation of Christ that also in the bible talks about being imitators of God. So God is eight ideal. And you can see this pretty clearly if you actually kinda step back and realize in the Old Testament, you see God completely different who's telling people to kill man woman and child and even the baby in the womb? To kill them to actually wipe out entire nations in the New Testament, you have God's who? So loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. So is a complete so much. So that one of the early what was later considered a heretic Marsin believed that they're actually two gods was the Demi Moore JR. And the other was the the father of Jesus. That's how radical if you actually are honest with the the Old Testament. Most people don't read the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch and the historical accounts. Well, the the history books is what they're called how much history is actually in. There is debatable. But Joshua and books like that the the chronicles kings wanted to you'll see things that just you know, are appalling if you know that your idea of God. But in the New Testament, there's a new cleaned up polish version of God, not perfectly, but you know, much more loving and looking out for the world and. A more benevolent if you will. And so you see mankind has and you see this. If you study if you do any comparative religious studies, you'll see that people create God's their own image. So the Greeks created Zeus in their own image and the rest of the pantheon of gods and the Israelites created Joe VAR, y'all way or elohim in their own image in Islam, you'll see that they're creating Allah in their own image that the Allah is for the air ABS, and you have to follow what they feel as the ideal. So what they do is they they have a personal ideal. They have the ideal man or woman and they project that onto the concept of God. So that's what I'm talking about. When I talk about the personal ideal. The perfect, man. The perfect woman is that projection that they put onto the concept of

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

07:54 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Uh-huh. Hello friends. Welcome again to the podcast Wiki. I'm Jay Nelson forest today. I wanna talk about God talk. So I've been doing a recent deep Dolf into Carl Jung and. I don't know if you familiar with much of Karl Yune he is probably one of the greatest psychologist of all time to me, a profound thinker and the more that I study the more that his. Thinking makes sense to me. I'm reading not just the actual works of car of of Yoon. But I'm also working through a his it's called an autobiography it's a semi autobiography if that makes sense it was actually ghost written in in the although we know who actually wrote the autobiography for him. So it's a biography. Autobiography kind of thing a lot of it. He did. Right. And most of it is his words. Although perfected by the. Person who actually wrote it say all this to say that he is interesting. Take is. Making me rethink the. The God talk question. And so for those that are hard atheists list of podcast. This might be a difficult thing to listen to. So let me be started guest by saying clearly that I believe that the theistic God of Christianity. Islam and Judaism is. On tenable that is there is no evidence and the evidence we have is against such an idea of all loving all powerful. God who created this world came just not? You can't look at the evidence in come to the conclusion that that. That's correct you can ignore the evidence in pick and choose and many Christians and Islamic scholars and things of this nature do that they have to do that they have to pick through the evidence. They can't be honest with him. My difficulty though is the power that the God concept has. Throughout the centuries. The reoccurring us of it. And I say that because I have I have a couple friends in my life. L and will are are two that come to mind both of which flow. Back and forth between this God concept. Both have at least for a time were eight Theus te in the sense. I didn't believe in God. And both now are re. Searching the God question, although they've taken away the the the dog Matic -ness of of Christianity and stuff like that is an interesting to them. What's interesting is more the mystical the the mysticism of yet. Or if you wanna be accurate at least for for one of my friends. It's more in the NAS tick. The knowing of this. Greater higher power thing. So. And for me if I embrace God talk it would be in a pantheon setting. I always had. I always felt that there was a power in the pantheon them motif, not so much the the because the the physical sciences if you just cut man in half and just he's if you're just talking rational than clearly naturalism is the the most correct interpretation the most correct conclusion based upon the evidence we have so far. But man is not just an objective rationalist. He has a deeper psychic experience, the what you in called the unconscious and the more that I delve into these hidden motives, the more. I begin to question the wisdom of divorcing myself from the God talk thing. And so I'm opening this up to discussion with you. Would you think about God talk? Do you think there's a place where you can talk about God in the sense that the the universe is God and God is universe to use Dhaka's term sex sex up, atheism. Is there a place for that? Do you feel? It's just that's a line that you won't cross is that ally. And that I should not cross. And if so why? Not. And you can you know, either comment on this episode in the comments on the website at Jada genostim force dot com, or you can Email me directly. There's a contact page on the website. And there's also my Email address, which you can Email me directly J J Y at j Nelson forest dot com and again forced is with two ours. And if you do that, then you know, I will get back to you probably Thursday or Friday of next week of this coming week, depending on how busy I am. I might have jury duty this coming week. So we'll have to see, but the important thing that I really want to put out to you is I need to know what you think about God talk in a pantheon stick sense because the theistic cents is that's not on the. Table. Okay. But whatever someone says God, you know, there is the the. The crossover between that and the theistic concept. You know, when I think of a pantheon steak. Idea of God. I think more of like Dow something that doesn't have the attributes of being all loving in the sense of what we are something. That's because the universe is indifferent. Okay. That's a simple fact, the universe is indifferent to our existence. We just happen to curve out. Carve out a space of existence within a cruel and on the life. Universe. We have life booming in on earth, which is unusual. Considering how much non-life there is in in our solar system that we have been able to discern anyway. So when you look at it that way, you kind of think, okay? So whatever this.

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

05:14 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"More of a humanistic idea. But my my thing is I don't believe that. That's that's going to be enough. We're going to have to base ourselves upon something that doesn't is not culturally contingent. And that's why base mine upon nature a larger context because if we base it upon the whole of reality rather than apart, then the whole of realities even as culture on Ravel's our connection with nature is not going to unravel. I mean, we're destroying the natural habitat were polluting the environment were causing global warming. And these are also part of the coming catastrophe that that we're headed for and the the problem is a lot of the stuff is celebrating. And a lot of the stuff is going to lead to disintegration of society right now, we don't have that. We that's why I mean, you can see symptoms of this. For example, the extreme identity with a sports team. You know, getting tattoos of sports team. Sports teams and stuff of this nature to a real fighting near identity within a sports team is part of we need to find identity. Okay. We will do it. And the problem is the smaller group, we do it with the more dangerous becomes for society. Because once we identify with just our little in group, we decided affi- by that very act we decided by with the world. And that is the danger is then you're not part of I group. So it's okay. If you die you're not part of I Gruppe. So you're a if you're not for us. You're against us. That mentality is natural. When your identity is tied to the smallest possible group. The small of the group the board injuries. It is. The reason being is if we were all identified as Americans that would give us an in group that was large enough to sustain America. But there's many Americans who are ashamed to be Americans, and you can decry that all you want. It's just the simple fact, there's some that have no problem burning the flag, and you know, spitting on our heritage and things of this nature, and you can say they don't belong here. And they shouldn't be here. They're here. And they're here in large numbers, and they're increasing. And so group identity with the United States has disintegrated. And that's why there will be infighting within the United States, and as that continues to progress because America's not perfect. We have a a horrible track record in in human rights lives. There's not you can't argue that there. But if you look at the world in general. America was very advanced. We were making progress faster than most countries. We had more freedoms and gave more freedoms and fighted for freedom for all men. Women. Children blacks, whites Hispanics. The problem is that we haven't we haven't progressed fast enough. We haven't progressed far enough. And now we're taking and we're turning the gun on our very heritage that brought us this far. And we're destroying the ladder from underneath us, and it will slowly and inevitably continually destruct and destroy the United States and culture, as we know it, and it will do that in every other culture as well. It's the global phenomenon it will continue, and it will get worse. You need to prepare yourself for that. Find yourself a philosophy you personal philosophy that is not based or contingent upon your culture, find your identity within nature not within a cultural context. And when you do that, you'll have a firmer foundation on which to build a worldview and way of life that helps you to be loving to all people everywhere all the time despite where we're headed. And I hope you you really listen to what I'm saying. And the importance of what I'm saying. So thank you so much for joining me for this podcast. I hope I was able to balance the two between the pessimism of where we're headed as a civilization and the reality of what you can do for yourself. And for those that you love. And have influence over. So I hope I was able to give you that balance. And until next time may wisdom guide your steps on the path of awakening.

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

06:06 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Hello friends. Welcome to the podcast awakening. I'm Jay Nelson forest. So they I wanna talk about cultural on Raveling. So I've been doing some study within postmodern thinking and Postmodernism and the. Combination of that which with understanding of integral philosophy. And with Ken Weber, and some of the other ideas of how modern culture is on Raveling, and I ran across some stuff from Jacques Lacan, who's a French psychoanalyst. And probably the twentieth. Century's most famous one and isn't really known too much in the United States, but is known within continental philosophy and psychoanalysts circles in one of the things he came up with is he began to. Look at Freud's. Cycle analysts. And he thought, you know, a lot of Freud's ideas, actually don't deal with the actual unconscious at deals with language. And so he basically translated a lot of Fred Freud's ideas, soon Freud's ideas into an idea about language. And there's a philosophical movement that's called structuralism and within the logistics, which is dealing with language. They were looking at language as having a signifier and the signified. So a signifier is some kind of a verbal symbol a word concept that would symbolize a signifier for an example, if there's a cat that would be you know, I point to a cat. I use the signifier cat to refer to the object that I'm pointing at cat. And of course, that's simplistic and dairy, Don, others deconstructed that and that's a whole nother podcast. I don't wanna get into that right now. But let's just stick with the idea of a signifier. So what Laekan basically began to think about is. He thought of schizophrenia. As the disintegration or disconnection of those signifier 's in other words, the meaning making mechanism. Disintegrated for schizophrenic things worked coherent. There was not a coherent whole, and in some I'm not saying the concept this, but in in my experience with studying schizophrenia, one of the things that's very common is the narrative of the government is watching the they're watching are being monitored a very small loop of Cigna fires that sit around the self. But most of the the the larger contextual signifier 's of like nationality. Religion subculture social status things of this nature disintegrate within that. So I I see some. I'm not sure he's correct. But I see where he's getting that from and so. His basic thesis is that the schizophrenia is the disintegration or disconnection of those signifier 's and therefore there's not a holistic understanding of reality. And he kind of divided the subconscious into the imaginary the symbolic and the real and I'm not going to get into his. Cycle. Analysts theory too much here. Just enough to say that there's a point to what he's saying. And there are some philosophers modern philosophers who actually take his idea and have applied it to capitalism and to culture, and that's where I wanna pick up. I want to pick up at the fact that Macon's idea that the schizophrenia is the. Disconnection of signifier. So in other words is the it's the lack of making a coherent meaning of the world said disintegration or a a lack of integration of a unified. Being unifying contextual understanding of reality. Does that make sense? I hope it does. So I want to read some from Jordan Peterson. And it's in his preface to the book. Maps of meaning that kinda will give us a context as we talk about culture here. So this is what he says something we cannot see protects us from something. We do not understand. The thing. We cannot see is culture. In its interests, psychic or internal manifestation the thing. We don't understand is the chaos that gave rise to culture. If the structure of culture is disrupted unwittingly chaos returns. We'll do anything anything to defend ourselves against that return. And that. Is so correct. So.

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

05:39 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Hello friends. Welcome to the podcast. I'm Jay Nelson forest today to be dealing with. What is religion? So boaty Taoism has been defined as a religion. And then I thought well, maybe I should call it a spirituality, and then maybe just a world view a philosophy of life. And I've struggled back and forth between whether to call voting Taoism religion. Now, there's some reasons to call it a religion for one in the United States and some other countries if it is a religion, it's protected you have the freedom of religion in the United States, for example. And so it'd be protected so that's a definite plus in that category. And the con is that when I say that Bodey Taoism a religion, I think most people picture a belief in God. And we don't believe in a God. I don't boaty. Dow some does not include a belief in God the supernatural afterlife. So it seems kind of. Weird to call. It a religion to some people because well, it there's no belief in God in yet Buddhism doesn't believe at least terra vodka Buddhism doesn't have a belief in God or has. I guess it's it you wouldn't say it quite that way. Doesn't it doesn't have anything to do with God being an ultimate concern? There are God's in the Pali canon, but the gods and the divas are pretty much part of some Sar the part of the same suffering. They don't have a clue either. And so they're really irrelevant to Buddhism. So they're there, but they're irrelevant. So, but then you've got Gina some which is eight theistic. It doesn't believe in gods. So. You've you can you count to go back and forth between. Okay. So you do have some religions what about humanism? Well, if you followed the history of humanism most people don't know the history, but it originally began as religious humanism. So it was considered religious now pretty much an alternate. Religion too. Theism to to Christianity. And so you have that aspect, of course, after the first manifesto, the humanist manifesto one. After that, the second one dropped and became much more secular and didn't embrace the religious categories. John, Dewey, who is one of the philosophers who signed it. He has a book called the common faith in which he argues that some of those things some of the words from religion, a hard to to give up just because the have meaning the have substance, and whether or not it has substance after pretty much rejecting a belief in in a theistic. God does the word religion have valid validity. You know? That's that's a question that I've struggled with and even Paul Kurtz who founded the secular. The secular Buddhist council for secular of excuse me, the council for secular humanism, even he struggled with what you call a world view that does the same thing as a religion does. But isn't centered around God or the supernatural? What do you call it? And he came up with you practically which may s-, basically means good practical wisdom. You know, it would be great. If that was popular understandable term. I have never met anybody in my life personally that actually ever used the word you practically. So it's it it doesn't mean anything to anybody. It would be like in in me inventing first. I invent the word boaty Taoism the way of awakening. And then I describe it as you practically which is another word that nobody would know. So use one word to describe another word and a person doesn't know either of those. That's not very helpful. So that's why I went with. My latest book the one I did last year was spirituality without God introduction to Bodey Taoism. Of course, I've developed my thought further since then in that book, I argue that could defined religion as the search for significant in ways related to the sacred. I am not sure that I actually like that terminology.

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"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

09:56 min | 2 years ago

"nelson" Discussed on Awakening with Jay Nelson Forrest

"Welcome prince. I'm Jay Nelson forest. Thank you for tuning into the podcast today. I'm going to be talking about identity politics. So let's begin dealing with identity politics with the definition. Identity. Politics is the tendency for people of a particular race religion gender ethnicity to organize politically around that special interest for the sole purpose of advancing that interest without concern or regard for any larger group or collective. Now, the difficulty is whenever you deal with something like this. People tend to misunderstand. So let me speak as carefully as I can. So understand that. We are living in a nation. That's now divided. It's divided even more. So than when I was growing up and reached adult dot delta. It's now so polarized that you have barbs flying back and forth between the the right and the left that it's hard for anybody to have a decent conversation or to come to any kind of mutual understanding. It's so polarized now that it's hard for any conversation. To take place any civil discourse to take place. It is come to the point of just name. Call in across the aisles. A good example of that is what took place with Jordan Peterson. If you're not familiar with Jordan Peterson. He's. He's canadian. Psychologists who basically got. Thrown into the midst of the the culture wars. So. He had issue with people or the government. Man Tate mandating the language that he was to us referring to transgenders transgender people. His issue wasn't that he wouldn't respect the person. What was the issue is? Once you start that slippery slope of legislating. Conversation when you legislate language when you began to take away freedom, you add up a slippery slope where it becomes. Real issue because then whoever's in power gets the decide what can be said what cannot and for those of us that are interested in free speech. That's an issue because I think that everybody has the right to be wrong. And they have the right to share their opinion. Even if you disagree. The problem that I'm having with the whole identity. Politics thing is the the he madness of it and the strategy the TAC TAC, the tactical strategy that's used in this identity politics realm. Here's the thing. Okay. I believe in social Justice. But I don't believe in social Justice as it is sometimes extreme or radicalized on the left where it's oh. Well, for an example, let's let's use an example to try to get a little more complex or a little more nuance and a little more specific. So. It is understood by some within the social Justice arena that only white people can be racist. Okay. That's an extreme left viewpoint. Only white people can be racist. This is an issue that I have because first of all that isn't true. And see the thing is it doesn't matter. Whether it's true or not they believe it and the minute that you question it than they especially if you happen to be. Of white skin. You are now on the alt-right just by just simply questioning. And this is the this is the way that it operates. They operate on the basis of. And remember who I'm talking about? I'm not talking about all those that are are for social Justice. I'm one of those as a supporter of Bernie Sanders. So please understand that my political view is metal to left in in the sense that I believe in in rights, or you might even say it's libertarian in the fact that I believe that government should stay out of our lives as much as possible because anytime government starts telling you what to do. Somebody's ideology is now controlling your freedom of speech and your civil rights. It shouldn't be okay. Keep government out of the private sphere. Let them take care of what needs to be taken care of by government. So, but that's that goes beside the point. So here's the issue is once you limit freedom of speech. You can do that in a number of ways the way that the particular tactic that they use is to immediately do character assassination. Now, you might ask like what what are you talking about? Well, let me use the case of the evergreen state college incident with Brett Weinstein. So Brett Weinstein is a biologist and he was a teacher at. Evergreen state college up in Washington. So understand he is a liberal or progressive. And they were in the process of trying to make the the college a social Justice college. They had a new president come in. And there's some indication that his particular plan was to restructure the the college. And what he did is he created a equity council and the equity council came up with this huge document that very people bothered to read where they're actually restructuring the the college now to to try to make a really long story really short is the structure of the the original founding of the the college was to give it maximum freedom to the professors to be able to do something that, you know? Was not possible in a regular college. And so they left the faculty in charge of pretty much the direction of the college, which is unusual and this president came in and was try to restructure it. And he was doing it through means of the equity council and the equity council had a lot of things in the document and Brett Weinstein win against the the document the the way that they were implementing it because of the the hidden. Restructuring that was in it. And because he did that. People began to question his commitment to equity to a quality. And of course, if you have you know, any kind of knowledge about Brett he is definitely one that believes in equality of opportunity. So it was one of those things that he he did that. And then because he raised issues day began to have questions concerning him, and then because there are moving in the direction they had a day of absence and once a year the. The faculty. The the people of color faculty would leave campus for one day to to let people know the importance of people of color, and they're they're import to the college. And Brett never had any issue with this the entire time. What took place though in? I believe it was two thousand seventeen is they decided that. Oh, no. We are not going to be absent. We're going to ask the white people to be absent.

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