8 Burst results for "Neil Shirley"

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

06:53 min | 7 months ago

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

"Envy was hosting their annual builder roundup showcase as well as a new event called grow. The builder roundup is a who's who of envy partners from around the world. I saw tun of gravel an adventure bikes a few mountain bikes. Fat bike an electric bike and all sorts of amazing things. The words you'll hear in this podcast will be challenged to really express. How truly unique and gorgeous and impressive the craftsmanship. All these bikes were. I encourage you to seek out. These pitchers on the web on instagram of post. Some on my account but really look at the details of these bikes. Because it's clear these craftsmen are exceptional at their work. I wanted to get you an opportunity to hear from some of the craftsman in their own words. So i did some many interviews about a dozen of them. That cobbled together in this episode. You'll notice some variation in the audio as some of the interviews were held in a room while others were on the show floor. But i really wanted you to hear from the builders themselves. So i'm just going to let them fly. And hopefully any ups and downs in the audios will be okay when you walk away from the totality of this episode before we begin just a couple more words about our sponsor and v composites. I got to do a full factory tour while i was out there to see. The rim manufacturing handlebars seat posts and also the full frame set from envy that we talked about with neil shirley few episodes ago a couple things to share about that tour. That really impressed me. First of all all the manufacturing is done in house. We got to see the raw roles of carbon fiber. Come in the templates. In which those roles carbon-fiber are cut and laid into molds to create the various products. That you know so well. We also got to see the elaborate in house testing labs that they run in the various machines that they torture these products with to make sure they obtain the standards. That envy is known for around the world from my vantage point. These machines absolutely abused the products. We saw frame being talked to no end. We saw spokes being ripped out through rim holes. We saw the impact tests machine for rhames was really impressive and clearly when envy get some feedback from the road. Someone saying i was just riding along. They can safely say. There's no way you were just riding along with that. Impac must have been hit by a truck because we know our products are tested to such an extreme standard. So that was really cool. I am a sucker for. us manufacturing. So i was super geeked out and stoke to see not only all the machinery but all the craftsmen and women that were operating in ogden utah and just the passion that they have as a company for creating exceptional products in the marketplace. After the builder round up on friday was saturday mornings groto event. it was a two hundred rider. Events and my first mass participation of since the pandemic began so it was very excited to toe the line nervous. The stated course had over eighty five hundred feet of climbing and i believe was supposed to be clocked at around eighty five miles. I had a little ride in from the hotel so at the end of the day i wrote one hundred miles. Did that eighty five hundred feet of climbing. My total ride. Time was just over eight hours and thirty minutes so it was a huge day out on the bike for me. Hats off to kneel and anybody else who had a hand. in course design. It was really a showcase of the area. We had some beautiful canyon road rides. Single track tough rocky fire road climbs and descents very beautiful surrounding. Just when you thought you were done. Neil through a couple of loops on the way back into town on some interesting single track that ogden had to offer it was really one of those courses that in my opinion tested every element of you as a gravel rider so hard beautiful and challenging a perfect gravel course with all that said. Let's jump right into my dozen many interviews. They're going to jump around a bit. So just follow along. You'll catch up. Each builder introduces themselves. And their brand and gives a little bit of an overview of the bike. They brought to the roundup. I've also got four more long-form interviews coming up off the top of my head breadwinner cycles scarab out of columbia spooky and most likely sage titanium so keep an eye out in your feet for those as well. Let's dive right in all right. Can you tell me your name. And the brand. My name's cole bennett. And i run weis manufacturing. And where are you located in brooklyn new york said. Tell me about this very special bike here at the envy build around. This is our gravel s. l. model. It's a seven thousand series aluminum. Construction and with the carbon seat mass. There's like a gravel racer that we build. It's got a lot of details if you look closely pr- pretty much everything. We don't use any off the shelf parts. So all our dropouts bottom brackets head tubes. We design and have cnc made for us and a lot of our tubing profiles are also custom. So yeah it's been a lot of work went into this thing it's hard to over. The microphone described the back. End of this bike. You try to do at some justice. Sure i'll try so basically all of our frame seven eight. Symmetrical rear ends visit trickle down from our first frame model which is a racing track racing bikes so the is symmetrical rear. End as a stiffer drive side. It's bigger diameter being dropped. Stay just like you'd see in a of race bikes but they do that on both sides. So yeah the gravel bike also is that what is the process. Look like for customer wanting to get one of the right now. it's. I've actually closed orders so the process right now is get on the mailing list and wait for us to release some frame slots but basically the way the process goes is. They're working with me. It's a small operations me and one other person. That's helping me a yeah from start to finish. Its customer experiences a big thing for me so from start to finish. I'm with the customer talking through custom paint custom. Gio everything soup to nuts in that discussion. If they come to you and say hey. I want to six fifty by fifty millimeter tired versus somebody who wants more of a road. Plus bike you. Do you make modifications..

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"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

03:16 min | 10 months ago

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

"We'll <Speech_Male> start to see some of these <Speech_Male> envy custom road <Speech_Male> with the all road <Speech_Male> geometry <SpeakerChange> racing <Speech_Male> those types of events. <Speech_Male> I <Speech_Male> know i'll be up there <Speech_Male> with mine. <Speech_Male> We're going to have <Speech_Male> yeah. They'll they'll <Speech_Male> be a handful of them <Speech_Male> out there. Sure <Speech_Male> hope <Speech_Male> yeah. <Speech_Male> I can't wait to go <Speech_Male> test. Mine in the <Speech_Male> symbol of the single-track <Speech_Male> lemon twist <Speech_Male> in burg and <Speech_Male> some of those <SpeakerChange> sections. <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> Yeah that's awesome <Speech_Male> as we're talking about offline <Speech_Male> i think for <Speech_Male> me. The gravel world <Speech_Male> has the spectrum <Speech_Male> from <Speech_Male> rhode. Plus <Speech_Male> this <Speech_Male> thirty five millimeter <Speech_Male> kind size tire. <Speech_Male> All the way <Speech_Male> on the other extreme to <Speech_Male> the bike packing side. <Speech_Male> so it's thrilling <Speech_Male> to see brands. <Speech_Male> Continue to push the <Speech_Male> limits on both sides. <Speech_Male> Because i think <Speech_Male> depending on where <Speech_Male> you live in the country <Speech_Male> you either <Speech_Male> or's gonna make sense <Speech_Male> for you depending on <Silence> your local terrain <SpeakerChange> <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> yes. It's totally <Speech_Male> true. I <Speech_Male> the <Speech_Male> wasatch mountains <Speech_Male> here just out <Speech_Male> our back door here in <Speech_Male> utah. <Speech_Male> They're so rocky. <Speech_Male> And rugged like <Speech_Male> i would never <Speech_Male> even <Speech_Male> a seven hundred. Forty <Speech_Male> is your under <Speech_Male> biking. Most the <Speech_Male> time like six fifty <Speech_Male> and <Speech_Male> forty seven to fifty <Speech_Male> mil <Speech_Male> tires is <Silence> the way to go. But <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> you know like we were talking <Speech_Male> about in <Speech_Male> lincoln nebraska <Speech_Male> when i did grab a world <Speech_Male> out there <Speech_Male> you know. I raised a thirty <Speech_Male> two seat tire <Speech_Male> now. So it really <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> is. Geographically <Speech_Male> dependent on <Speech_Male> terrain is <Speech_Male> definitely <Speech_Male> for beat a bawar <Speech_Male> san diego <Speech_Male> all happily run <Speech_Male> a thirty to see <Speech_Male> in my <Speech_Male> custom road. <Speech_Male> And it's gonna be <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> it's gonna be an awesome <Speech_Male> bike and then my <Speech_Male> as a gravel <Speech_Male> guy here in a number <Speech_Male> of us here <Speech_Male> in envy that <Speech_Male> that ride gravel consistently <Speech_Male> were <Speech_Male> pushing for that next <Speech_Male> that next <Speech_Male> version. That <Speech_Male> can fit some big <Speech_Male> tires in there. <Speech_Male> I think we need to really <Silence> just understand <Speech_Male> the <Speech_Male> demand. That's <Speech_Male> that we have <Speech_Male> for for the <Speech_Male> customer road in then <Speech_Male> understand how we <Speech_Male> can scale up and <Speech_Male> be able to keep <Speech_Male> up with the demand <Speech_Male> and and then <Speech_Male> add hopefully <Speech_Male> added <SpeakerChange> grabble <Speech_Male> version as well <Speech_Male> that makes <Speech_Male> sense. I mean envy's <Speech_Male> been such a great supporter <Speech_Male> of the gravel community. <Speech_Male> As i said before <Speech_Male> so i'm <Speech_Male> sure that bike will come. <Speech_Male> Which is why <Speech_Male> it was important to have this conversation <Speech_Male> today. <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> Neil thank you <Speech_Male> so much for making <SpeakerChange> time <Silence> today. I really appreciate <Speech_Male> it. Yeah <Speech_Male> thank you craig. <Speech_Male> It's fun to talk <Speech_Male> about. It's it's <Speech_Male> been something <Speech_Male> that we've been living the <Speech_Male> last two and a half years <Speech_Male> so to be able <Speech_Male> to launch <Speech_Male> the bike and start telling <Speech_Male> people <SpeakerChange> about. It has <Silence> been so exciting. <Speech_Male> That's it for <Speech_Male> this week's episode of <Speech_Male> the gravel ride podcast <Speech_Male> big. Thanks to <Speech_Male> kneel for coming on <Speech_Male> and talking about <Speech_Male> the envy <Speech_Male> custom road project. <Speech_Male> it's <Speech_Male> really exciting. To <Speech_Male> see both sides <Speech_Male> of the sport continued <Speech_Male> innovate. <Speech_Male> I tell <Speech_Male> ya. It looks like one <Speech_Male> fast <Speech_Male> machine. <Speech_Male> I'll put a link in the <Speech_Male> show notes to <Speech_Male> where you can find out more <Speech_Male> information about <Speech_Male> the custom road bike <Speech_Male> definitely check <Speech_Male> out some of the custom <Speech_Male> paint jobs. That <Speech_Male> neo was mentioning <Speech_Male> truly beautiful <Speech_Male> bikes. <Speech_Male> If you've made it this far <Speech_Male> on the show. I hope <Speech_Male> that you're already a subscriber <Speech_Male> but if <Speech_Male> not make sure <Speech_Male> to hit that subscribe <Speech_Male> button. We <Speech_Male> put out episodes <Speech_Male> just about every <Speech_Male> week. And we've got <Speech_Male> about one hundred <Speech_Male> in the back catalogue <Speech_Male> for you to peruse <Speech_Male> until <Speech_Music_Male> next time. <Speech_Music_Male> Here's the <SpeakerChange> finding some <Speech_Music_Male> dared onto your wheel. <Music>

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"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

05:19 min | 10 months ago

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

"It's yeah. I think our engineering team that we have here in house. Some really brilliant people and kevin who is is behind the bye-bye key even though this clinically the first bike for ending as we've been talking about we've worked with bike. Builders a lot in the past and we also worked with sir bellow and designed in manufacture the front end of their p five bax triathlon time trial bike and then kevin before he came over to envy he worked. I mean he worked did. Gt back in their heyday when the lotto bikes building the bikes and going over to perry day with the team said he's got great stories and then some time specialized developing the first rebbe even though it's a new it's a new category for us. There's definitely a lot of know-how within the building in it how to put together a road bike. Yeah exactly and then much a lot of the other custom offerings out there in the world at the end of the day you get to choose from looks like a pretty vast selection of paint schemes. Yeah we brought in a painter a year ago. We already had h here where we paint. No our mountain stems. That are made here in our disc for time-trial wheels in so we brought this painter in for the last year. He's been painting. We all have custom painted forks in handlebars now just trying to keep him busy until we had till we had frames to be feeding through there but he put together basically his paint shop in so with the help of our design team and they created four different for different paint templates for the frame and then thirty eight color options and matt versus gloss as options as well. There's i mean you can talk about having a unique bike without even having to spend extra on on xtra custom paint or anything which which is an option but anyone that has seen the coverage on our site in some of the different paints. That are painted bikes. That are coming out. Like there's men you can do some really cool stuff. I was just down in the paint shop this afternoon and seeing like we were doing a bike for chris. King right now. That's just unbelievable. So it's really cool to build the offer something like that. I know aesthetics..

kevin last year a year ago thirty eight color p five bax chris. first bike this afternoon first lotto bikes four different King
"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

05:58 min | 10 months ago

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

"In the back of the handlebar and then the hoses and wires routed through the special headset and down into the frame and through the floor. So it's incredibly clean. We will we will. The the summer will be introducing the same system but in a two piece design so it's our standard a. r. s. a. r. road handlebar with a envy stem is dedicated to that front end system. Okay and going with the seat. Mass that allow you some additional ride tuning capabilities. Exactly one. it allowed us to reduce take a little bit of weight out of the frame but also you nailed it. You can think about if you had a a seat posts. That goes slides into the frame to lot harder to taylor in dial in that ride quality compared to integrated seat masks in what we can achieve with that in again since each bike is made each customer the length of the seat mass and having to trim it and all. That stuff wasn't a factor. So there's a reason not to and then the seat mouse topper. It's a nice carbon topper. That's also made here here in our facility has thirty five millimeters of adjustability. There's never going to be an issue aware if you change shoes or pedals in your saddle. Height changes by centimeter and a half. You're going to have plenty of adjustability so that's not going to be an issue. The only issue could be as if you happen to sell your bike down the road to someone else and there's a thiessen difference so that would be the only issue. When i first looked at the bike i always do. Get a little bit sensitive around seat masks and integrated bar stems for the reasons you've talked about but it is important and you made this point twice to say this is a bike. That's being uniquely made for the purchaser and it would almost be a disservice to them to not give them the ultimate bike that fits like a glove. Yeah yeah and that's what we set out with this project like..

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"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

04:10 min | 10 months ago

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

"Really love they fit on it really well but they have say twenty five millimeters of spicer's under that stem. We can match them exactly to that fit but what we can do head tube length that brings it so that they don't have to have any spaces or they can have five millimeters of space or so you get really that clean pro. Look that perfect fit that you're looking for right. Does that does that make sense it. Does it totally translates into the visuals. I've seen other bike. There's no space underneath the stem on any of those bikes. They look super clean. And i imagine talking to some custom frame builders. There's always a bit of back and forth that the frame builder will say. Hey that's your we can do that. But you're going to make us sloppy bike and all you guys have done. It said this is the way this part is. But there's plenty of ways in which we can really customize it to you. your unique fit needs. Yup exactly. I mean. I think if you think about it. It's basically the best way to describe. What's possible is one millimeter size. Increments between say a forty seven to sixty three centimeter bike. So forty seven forty eight forty nine fifty with within those sizes we can. We can go lower with the head to. We can go higher with the head. To obviously stem length within five millimeter increments. We can change the stimulant so what we do when we come up with a geometry. We have comes up. We have a thing called the best fit calculator that kevin nelson are lee. Lead bike engineer developed. And when we it calculates and spits out geometry's are the best fit so three or four best fit recommendations for the person that could be topped two of accent meters with a with a stem length of one ten or it could go a slightly shorter top tube in a stem length of one. Fifteen into then we walk the customer through. Okay this is. We allow them to say okay. This is what i like. This is the style i like. Ultimately though were finding a few ways to get the kit the customer in the exact spot they need to be that makes sense and speaking of integrations. You've got an integrated bar stem as well as a seat mast situation going. Can you talk about the decisions to go down those routes. Yeah when we looked at the bike and what we can deliver that being able to do it in house here. In the fact that it was custom made for each customer there was there was no reason not to do this..

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"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

06:01 min | 10 months ago

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

"I was. I was jealous. Some of the rights that people were doing. Because i mean that's really that's the spirit of i don't want to say just gravel because there's you can do it on the road to but i think truly grabble brings that out more and allows people just to have more of that adventure that they're looking for and that usually leads to just some over the top ribes. Yeah and has been talking about a lot lately and just the idea for me about come combining road and off road riding in creating these loops. That are just atypical. From what i would normally do is really inspiring me for twenty twenty one to frankly set my bike up a little differently and think about where i'm going to go differently. Yeah yeah i agree. I've personally been on a little bit of a road kick. Which i'd never thought i'd say i think just i had a friend come into town. Who had only had a road bike. And i just remit started to remember all the things that used to love about road riding so when this new project got publicize the envy custom roads like it was like it could have been more perfect timing. Let's sit down and talk about it. So let's it sounds like the bike was a longtime coming. So do you wanna talk about the history behind the bike and then we'll get into some of the details sure so the bike. The bike was pretty much. The original product that envy it was when envy was found that it was actually called the edge and then after about a year and a half two years. The the name was changed to envy. It was one of the very original products and it kept kidding getting pushed back because there was a greater. The management team felt that there is great potential hole with expanding the wheel line then components from their brain. Just get cutting the got kicked down the road a bit and then it was two and a half years ago that the project started in earnest and it was that.

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"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

03:59 min | 10 months ago

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

"Test riding on the winter at again so at a spring through fall his what. You can expect super interesting as you. The components gained steam. Presumably at some point you moved into manufacturing tube sets for other builders. Can you talk about that process. And what that's been like. Yeah the tube sets so early on with envy. We really still what we're doing now. We looked at the market in we could carve out a spot for ourselves and that that really came at the time was serving the custom. Handmade builders that were predominantly using steel or titanium We we were able to roll tubes and do carbon tubes for them in and we still do. It's a very big part of the business. Shrunk as more bikes are molded now. Molded carbon now. But we know. I think we still work with calc- doing some of their tubes we worked with parley in the past independent fabrication. So some of the more notable handmade builders. We've been able to service them and still to this day. I mean a lot of those builders are using forks. Forks is a large part of our business. Yeah the builders have been really. They've been a huge part of our success. I have to say that where where we're at today. The envy builder around up is one of my favorite events of the year. Yeah so just looking at all those bikes they. All everybody comes out. It's like the handmade bike show Yeah i'm excited. Unfortunately the north american handmade by chose not happening this year. And so this will be your three for us for the builder round up. It's june twenty fifth this year and fingers crossed will be able to last year. It was just a virtual show which was great at challenged us in new ways in it allowed us to really take that content serve to a bigger audience. Not just doing the open house. This year will do the same but will also have an open house so hopefully we can have have people out here. Robin number the builders here inside envy visiting us and of course the bikes on display. So yeah. it's it's really cool to see. Every each of these builders their own idea of what their ideal bike is in the custom builders their head of the curve in what trends are because can make a bike so quickly if you have to if you're waiting on cannon daler specialized or some of these brands like they're doing great stuff but there there are two years behind what the custom builders are doing. So you can look and see what what's going on with these builders and see what how people are riding bikes. How much tire clarence they want. I mean there's a lot of their number gravel bikes the show last year with seven hundred fifty tires on well. This is the trend line Bigger and bigger tires. Anyway it's really cool to see what each builder has in mind and how their bikes are being used. I remember seeing that last year. And i think it coincided with the introduction of your adventure fork if i'm not mistaken but just seeing that trend which is aligned with where. I'm going personally. I think bigger and bigger tires just fits where i wanna go and what i wanna do on the gravel bike which is interesting and i think. A lot of the conversation on the podcast. This year has been around bike packing and adventure rides as the event got taken off the calendar more and more riders were looking to just create their own adventures. Yeah i mean that's everyone was some of the rides. I saw on straw people as following. Were doing it was like almost without the racing they had renault limits or boundaries. Two hundred plus mile rides on saturday and multi. Day bike packing rods. So people got really creative..

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"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

05:46 min | 10 months ago

"neil shirley" Discussed on The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

"Neil shirley from envy on talk about the envy custom road. You heard me correct custom road not to worry. We're not renaming. The show the road ride. But i thought this project was so interesting. And how they're manufacturing in the united states that it was worth highlighting in last week's in the dirt episode. We had so many questions about how envy was pulling off this custom road that a thought it was worth talking to the team at envy and who better than to talk to our old friend. Neil shirley the gravel ride. Podcast is supported by limited number of sponsors as well as listeners. Like you if you're interested in supporting the show. Please visit by me. A coffee dot com slash. The gravel ride. And now. let's jump right into my conversation. Neil welcome to the show. Thanks for.

Neil shirley Neil last week united states envy ride so many questions