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12:52 min | 10 months ago

"neil brodie" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy

"The welcome to this week's episode of Blue Skies Strategy Groups that Canadian. podcast what you need to know about this week in Canadian in politics I'm Alison Fair and joining me this week. My colleagues Tim. Barbara Cameron Hallstrom and Neil Brodie Low happy Friday so there were a lot of things that happened this week in Canadian politics but I think the big story story That took us all really by. Surprise was the resignation of Conservative leader. Andrew Scheer I want to get your thoughts. Neil I On his sudden resignation was the timing right. Well first off. I think everyone needs to thank Mr Sheer four running for as an MP running as Speaker running is leader of the Party and running for prime minister that takes mental amount of personal commitment And commitment to the country to do that and so that That part of of his public life should be should be acknowledged. I'd I'd say it was a surprise. I don't think anybody saw coming Usually leaders decide Very quickly after a after a failed election attempt went to resign right away. You know Mr Mr Martin did that. Not shortly after his defeats Mr Harper to that actually after his defeat I can't actually remember about Stefan. Giant Michael Acknowledge it but I think they were quickly after their defeats ten. So It's a surprise that he may have tried it. Wh what are we coming up on two months now. I figured since he got through the first month month and a half after the election he might go through to the New Year and trying Ryan put forward a new plan for The Conservative Party but Some accounts say he's been thinking about this for a little while. Some accounts say that was decision yesterday. The full story will come out to in in due. Course strategist though good move. Good timing or should he have waited till April or early. You'RE GONNA go go as soon as you think you're gonNA leave a position. Don't don't mess around just get drawing it unnecessarily is is never good for anyone. I was a bit surprised that He announced that he was stepping down as leader but staying on his interim leader. I'm not sure if that survived arrived evening I know there are some s caucus meetings last night That was an odd odd occurrence. Usually when you still tells us step down as leader and allow someone else take over. The reins unanimously accepted him. To stay on you know. That's what I heard which we can new podcast. Some S. T. stories. I hadn't experienced with that one. Yes you do tim from the Liberals Perspective how does this play out for them. Well I don't think anyone's restaurant election and I think that I think liberals are sending back in and watching very carefully with the national executive of the Conservative Party candidates going to do in terms of Jamaica April the leadership race or not. That's kind of an abbreviated version of it. Yeah I mean I ah my observation is is that you know sheer ran a reasonably good campaign right but there's a whole bunch of issues that he was just unable to answer so oh did he deserve to to stay on. That's an open question. I it's kind of a moot point at this point but you've basically lost two months of a leadership race that could have been so that's kind of my view. Is that you know he was dead. Man Walking like within a within two weeks of the election maybe even five days after the election real election night perspective and there was a ton of people that I spoke to conservatives at namely conservatives that of Ontario that never liked him to begin in with whether they're with Max burn or not. That's the whole other issue. But they weren't that enthusiastic but his leadership. I think the election campaign showed there was a lot of questions he just didn't answer for and then I mean the US citizenship business business around was he credited Insurance broker whatnot. It just was a little half ass and then the latest one which we've now found out and just shows how many leaks are is that potentially some of the money raised Within the conservative fund was used I private school for a for his kids So No I. It's it's bad. It should have. I think he should have left a while ago. as liberal I started the HASHTAG liberals for sheer. I did think he deserves a second. Chance was dead. Men Walking ship is held the camera thoughts on his resignation. And what it means for the MVP in all of this well. I think in the long term. The biggest minority parliament is. Is that this discussion. A lot of Very easy life because at this point and we used to be seen this in the past when Mr Mr Dion on stepped aside. and Mr Step aside. You didn't see there's no fight coming from one party. So it makes the the actual governing agenda much easier. I'm of the mind that Leadership Shapiro partisan come to the summer at the earliest just logistics of actually getting a leadership up and running and getting the voting. Everything's it's it's it's a big task to do for any organization organization to try to pull it off over basically more than three months. I know the Ontario Tories did it an extremely difficult circumstances last time but I think this different different kettle of fish. And I think there'd be a lot of pushback from certain members of the grassroots if it went too fast but that being said I'm really taken aback not so much that had happened but how it happened I agree. I agree with the sentiment that if you're going to step aside you you do it on your own terms and you do it under your own control and Dan. I'm sorry I know what Mr Shears Sate what he said yesterday but when all the other stories came out it became pretty clear to me. This was not on his own terms because if it were on his own terms the the the school story doesn't come out to be. That's the kind of story. It's not just Mr Sheer. That's damaging to people within the party. That's GONNA raise a lot of questions with members about how they're don't donations are being spent. That's the kind of story that will have ripple effects going forward and to me. That's more of a nuclear option to pulled out. That kind of tells me that there might have been a sentiment within some who really wanted to see Mr Shiro. Becky wasn't going to go because we even saw some someone's language or wasn't doubling down in the approach for a while and it made you kind of wonder if some people felt okay. He's not going to walk away. Gracefully from this he needs is be pushed in pushed now and having lived through the Tom mulcair experience within the MVP and how that played out. I think there's A. There's there's privacy concerns. It's good that it's over with now. I don't know if what how what was happened is going to help matters but it's happened. It's there and now you move into onto the next phase of leadership race and the hope that comes from that. So maybe this was a case of these reviews of some ripping off the band aid aid even if it took a couple of layers of skin along with it but it seems to me that the one thing I wanNA doubt Mr Sheer in his veracity and what he's saying but it doesn't look like this was just him deciding to go and walk away because I as one colleague put it to the other day or yesterday people who walk away to spend time with their family. Don't tell people that they're going to spend time with their family. They just go do it. Neil your thoughts on that extra story of the funds funds for his children's private school as a conservative is that does that irk. You listen you can make any arrangements for employment employment that That you can or want The disruptive part is you had the executive director of the the party come out at some point in the afternoon yesterday saying that yes. This is all above board and approved and then later in the day you had contracting stories from the conservative fund The the board of the conservative fund that that manages them essentially the money. The party every every party has one of those Coming out with a different Statement thanks They didn't know anything about these expenditures. it's still very early in the process of the first twenty four hours of of what's going to be a story How it plays out We'll we'll tell a lot of boat. How quickly we go into a leadership contest if there are significant changes at the party level because of this A leadership contest may be delayed while they sort out. The internal administration of the Party of if funds were dispersed. And you're saying though then this could be a big story in the fact of how that was managed and then that could delay the leadership. Could it depends how quickly the the the expenditure of funds on if there were funds. It expanded on public school private school. Pardon me And if they were expended inappropriately or without the proper authorization than yeah this is GonNa be A ripple through the party apparatus the the the administration of the Party the political party but the administration of of the Party Apparatus which is the part that that helps manage the leadership process? Okay so tim what what do you think now goes forward in terms of the liberals they can they sit. Just sit back now and take it all win and just see how the cards play out in my mind so think to combat minds one is talked to Neil but this yesterday for the Conservatives Sir looks at the border you do not want a twenty percent. We talked stage. I don't know how you would go down the field. Maybe it's it's a positive half a million dollars or whatever. It cannot be sixteen people on stage the leadership to replace harper with seventeen people now for off walked off in the thirteen on the ballot and it was a mistake. So here's my concern. Just if I may on an liberals and I'm beginning to see it is that they're beginning to believe they have majority and that is actually very dangerous. Because I think there's been a number of cases of really sloppy behavior I thought we had dropped the virtuous virtue signaling. It doesn't appear that we have. I still think that. HR is the biggest at the Christmas party the other day. The thing that I hear is staffs are not in place. It's just a mess and continues to be a man. I'm hearing that you know to handling staff to is not very bad mary. But here's my thing. Is that you still bill. Have Minority Government caucus matters more than ever. And you can't just say it. You have to actually do something about it. And that's my concern is that you look at the chaos. If you look at it with all due respect to Jagmeet Singh you know he did not win. It's a small group. He's in nourished I hold an election. There's this kind of chaos across across the aisle. That doesn't matter. You could still lose a vote. You still have to be really cautious of what you're doing in the house and in committees. I mean so so. I'm willing not to get cocky. Oh my God no no that. That's my biggest concern and Trudeau does that. I mean he's amazing. They follow that. Follow that Cam. I just terrific. Tim said I think this is the thing I think if I if I were the government. This opportunity put the pedal down a bit in advance some policy but but remembering that the government may not fall but there are lots of places a minority government to lose votes to have bad consequences and committees namely being one of them. They to me that that's a big danger. I think that if they fall asleep at the switch there that you really run into some issues. It's interesting interesting. You know talking we the season going to gatherings you know catching up with old friends and colleagues. I did the same myself this week. mcadoo fee France and one of the comments. What's I heard coming back? A lot from. People was the difference in tone of the field from at this post campaign between nineteen versus twenty fifteen. And how how some members of the caucus made a very deliberate attempt to try to set a better tone because as one as one per one former call you buy and put it to me. Two Thousand Fifteen felt like a funeral star starting to never stop finishing no never stop feeling that way and felt like a lost period of time whereas is this group is realized..

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"neil brodie" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy

What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy

12:37 min | 10 months ago

"neil brodie" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy

"Welcome to this week's episode of Blue Skies Strategy Groups Canadian podcast. What you need to know about this speak in Canadian politics? I'm Alison Fair and joining me this week. My colleagues Jeff Turner Camera Hallstrom and Neil Brodie Happy Friday everyone morning so we finally got all. The kids are back in Ottawa. Back to school and we kicked it off with the speaker of the House. A comments which I think all of us were quite surprised about We Will Miss Jeff Regan and then we had this speech from the Throne Jeff Let's start with you. Your thoughts on the overall overall content of the speech big day in Ottawa. Yesterday it is just Without a partisan hat on it's always really really sort of reassuring reassuring to watch. I think political science terms what we call the peaceful transfer of power in this case. It's transferring from the government to itself but we go through all this pomp and circumstance stance and we have these We have these protocols and these these sort of a royal prerogatives and all these things because it's a stabilizing force and I think it's always nice to step back in kind of appreciate that. Our system of government does a very good job of evening us out and finding compromises and that's a good segue into what what is this throne speech it is. It is a document intended to start the conversation on compromises and I think the biggest surprise at a top line fine. I wouldn't call it a shock but it's just something we weren't expecting as much of was a bit more specificity in terms of a few specific programs or or specific mentions I think this sort of wisdom going in was that the government was willing to Do what most own speeches do which is paint the sort of broad landscape of the challenges and opportunities facing the country in the years ahead and then proposing how to go about solving solving those and a majority contacts like we saw in two thousand fifteen with the throne speech of the incoming Trudeau government. Typically that that is a a rehash of the campaign platform and the game that everybody would play in. That would be. Hey where's that one platform item seems to have been forgotten and is that a signal that it has auden. was there anything forgotten in your point of view in this renting's forgotten because you you just simply couldn't put the liberal platform and the throne speech and pretend to be interested collaborating with other parties. Not because those things are anathema to those parties I think we saw. There's a lot of shared ground in particular with and EP Social the policy the Conservatives have been opening up much ground to share or a bridge to walk across. I don't think we'll get into that wanted. Eat Yup But we found out if if if there was an additional if there was a ninth were that said oil than Mr Blanchette wouldn't voting for this so I I think they struck balance so what. I was surprised to see us that there are a few more items in there which will lead into the budget conversation with those two potential partners. My sense is the government would prefer to work with the the the blocker back while on the budget But whoever wants to stand behind this throne speech as a declaration of values and priorities. I think every party can see some value in this the questions by these values in playing along politically and what we saw. Some people lead flexing last week because they know the block in the past the government is going to fall today but make no mistake. I mean the number one thing going. Into all of twenty twenty years the Conservatives can't go and find election right now they're leaders imperil And they're they're volunteer basin as a campaign organization would be in disarray. They had to go to the polls two months from now. I mean how many people are going to open volunteer. When you're going through internal party divisions the end EP has less than no money And fewer candidates and have had some serious bruising in different parts of the country although they are trying their best to show it the block wants to stick around as long as possible because their newly relevant relevant again so they they have an interest in sticking around to so and the Liberals have proven leader. uh-huh yes that's right exactly Cam Cam. Jeff brought in there. The word compromise is there enough in that throne speech and will allow the MVP to work with the Liberal Party government. Excuse me this is interesting because I saw your eyes go well couple of his comments commitment. This is interesting because I don't take too much talking. What leaders have to say directly after a throne speech a minority? Because let's face facts. It's just a in. The speech is a statement of high minded ideals for most part. Yes most people have a hard time to scream especially in a minority context. You don't want to get too specific specific and we saw that. There wasn't a lot of specificity. They're eating for a what was there wasn't like knock me over the head. I'm stunned to see this. They're kind of specificity. Starting points the for the MVP even Jagmeet Singh reply to it. Was You know what we wanted to see a bit more we want to see action with all deference prince to meet a throne speech is not where you see action. It's an a legislative piece after so this is part of the dance you see is that you can't seem to be too happy with what you've seen. You can't seem seem to be too upset. And where do you go with this. And Yeah one of the spanners in the works. Here is the fact that you have the block who are just it. I find interesting playing the role. The frankly you used to use Lusa play all the time where he just basically said. I know where I am. You know. You don't want to admit it but it reminds me of the debate us to say well. I know I'm not going to be prime minister to have you know the same right. It's the same kind of role where he can just kind of be how he is and you saw that yesterday. He's like well. I'm going to support it. So that forces everyone else to readjust fast and for the PA how you have to be to be pushing for the things you want to see without maybe pushing too hard. That's kind of the fighting this so I think in the end because the block lock isn't going to back the bill back. I think Mcginn little more room to go with but in the end. There's a lot of things in there that that frankly weren't in the liberal platform. I noticed right away. A federal minimum wage age increase. Something that he's called for a long time and and get heckled about over all the time because just how many people fall under the federal minimum wage get there was. You know there are things like that. And they're the MVP has called for. Okay you can say you've gotten something so there's a few more days to the peace of this as well as people need to kind of calm down the rhetoric a group of it. This is not one of these situations that we saw the last minority where you know where there are always opportunities where the tension was much higher. It's just not there right now. So yeah I heard he over like when we were listening to it yesterday and going over the words in the in the speech you You mentioned possibly that The the wording over handguns ends In in there might not get the reaction from the MVP that the Trudeau government might want the the reaction to past memories and experiences. I wish I could forget To be honest let's face it when it comes to hand when it comes to gun legislation nations general there's history and that's long registry in. Everything came with that and obviously the MVP when that was a big issue at the time it wasn't divisive issue within the caucus us and within the membership It's one of the one of those areas of get one of those cleavages. You could hit in if you really wanted to make life difficult on somewhat and when I when I read quote miles first reaction when I heard that then when I read a little more closely I looked exactly what was said. I Pol these enact handgun gun bandstand. EP called for that. This salt style. assault style rifle ban that something and even called for in the past and the idea of a buyback program. I wouldn't be a D- D did Nestle hit on those areas but again in a in a minority in a in a situation you look at these things are closely how might play out and I can see how constituents of certain MP's will react and the pressures that puts on them to act a certain way and just the unintended consequences. That could bring about. But what I will say is this is that Ah we saw this in the Harper government's because obviously the situation was very different. There wasn't a natural dance partner. You saw a lot more. I called poison pills throwing in their something that somebody had to swallow to get through which made it difficult and and created issues like that. You didn't necessarily see that. There is nothing in there that I would look at. Maybe outside of the The handgun ban for the Conservatives as like a poison pill that was. There's no way I could swallow this. So and so neil poison pill Was it specific enough for the conservative because Andrea Sherr when he afterwards was look quite angry once again and not too thrilled with the contents anti the speech I think sometimes people confuse anger with earnestness or or concern You know people people used to Say See that Andrew Scheer was to smiley and now they say too angry while you know what it's one or the other so Perhaps he's just trying to be more serious Listen Fund fundraising for the Conservative Party of Canada was never better than when we were fighting against the long gun registry That's crass politics but it's the truth Millions millions and millions and millions of dollars poured into the Conservative Party Beginning the day after the liberal government brought into effect the long gun registry Whether Mr Trudeau follows through on what he's placed in this In this speech from the throne regarding Firearm policy is is yet to be seen seen But if he starts down that road We will conserve party will be financially ready for the next election sooner than anybody else anybody else. Any other party in Canada With respect to the rest of the speech from the throne you know the old adage used to be the liberals campaign to the left and governed from the right right now. They're showing that. They are campaigning from left and governing even further left There's there's nothing in here that Sorry right there's not much in here. That appeals to a small C conservative voter The casual conservative supporter There's there's some long-overdue stuff concerns about indigenous health For One Easier access to family doctors Mental health standards in the workplace. That these are all good things That any can he can get behind But as far as a Cross Partisan support I'd be surprised if More than twenty conservative showed up for the vote. Or they're all gonNa vote against it one one of the other. So do you think because in watching the political show's afterwards And my F- My friend and former colleague Don Martin said you know in in all the eight years he he's been covering it in myself as well. We've never seen a throne speech that actually gets to specific. So why were the conservatives like Michelle rental looked like. She was about to a cry on television. Why did the curve conservatives and this is maybe a question for all of you if you're on the party in that in reading in the speech are you telling them to go out there and just be so dramatic on? It isn't a good thing for Canadians to see this drama after the throne speech when there's not too much details in the words start with you Neil. The opposition's Role is to oppose so no matter. You Know Mr Mr Trudeau could've come out and said he's going to increase pipeline capacity across the country by four times and He's going to make sure that every every family gets a a firearm subsidy or You know there's going to be roads built between EDMONTON CALGARY RED deer north battle furred and the Conservative Party. Still going to pose it. Because that's what they have to do. characterizing it as people crying overly overly emotional about it is i. Think a bit of a stretch But the the the message from The Liberal Party and Mister Trudeau and and miss freeland since October. Twenty second is we have to listen to all of all Canadians and we have to govern for all Canadians Canadians..

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"neil brodie" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy

What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy

10:48 min | 1 year ago

"neil brodie" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy

"Welcome to this week's episode of Blue Skies Tragedy Group's Canadian podcast. What you need to know about this week in in Canadian politics? I'm Cam from a consultant here. Blue Sky and joining me today or Neil Brodie fights president lines himself with the Blue Team and Jeff Aft- Turner Senior Consultant Who's closely following the liberal campaign. All right well here. We are the end of the end of this big week. And as of today voting has begun with advanced polls now open and threw out the long weekend. There are a lot of undecided voters out. There we'll start off with this wondering here. We'll Canadians Canadians. Come out this weekend to vote or will people wait the twenty-first to make up their mind. What do you think Well I know the I think the trend over the last couple of years is people going to advance dance polls to avoid the crowds on on election day I think the The question this time around will people want to go out and vote There have been no the change in the numbers in the polls since the beginning of the campaign which kind of reflects the No big winning issue. No big winning in plank For any of the parties It's kind of the Seinfeld election. It's really about nothing even though there have been some some large policy announcements by all the parties. Hardee's I I don't I don't know it's Thanksgiving weekend. If the weather's nice and people are with families they might stay home and the twenty-first but I think it's only I think that's it's only a a result of the weather. I think the bigger question is will people want to own vote this this time. What you Jeff? I don't think the proverbial undecided voter person who sort of ascribing identifies as unidentified. We'll go out this weekend. Because those types of voters tend to play chicken with the polls they go right to the very last minute before making up their mind I've been to lots of doors on the day before Election Day. Where people are still telling you? They're undecided so I don't think that's who's going to go out to advance polls weekend but that's not who is supposed to go to advance. Polls as far as campaign when is concerned Campaigns are working this weekend as many election day. First and foremost it's a way of warming up your machine for the big show on next Monday but secondly it's a way. AM getting the people you know or suspect highly are going to vote for you to the poll to effectively deposit that vote into the bank. So you can focus on the rest of the people on your list for the remainder of of the week. So that's that's what's happening this weekend. I think people are going after As far as campaigns are going after. ID voters to try to get them to go early. There are some voters who just naturally know that they're are gonNA be busy or they're traveling or town or it's not convenient or maybe. This weekend is more convenient than a Monday afternoon. So you'll definitely get those types of voters who may not be coming because as they are particularly strongly politically aligned or other things just convenient for them So I think The truly undecided voter which is who were talking about in this question I think they're sitting down over dinner or family engagement this weekend. And they were having that proverbial Thanksgiving conversation may not make up their mind but it will substantially advance. That and I think by next Monday they'll be ready to go. I think there are two factors really play into this. One is over the last couple of federal election cycles. We've seen more and more people get attuned to the idea of strategic voting and and that idea of trying to stop the lesser to whatever that may look like and therefore I've gotten more used to the idea of going at the last minute letting things play out see what happens at the polls for alternate jumping in because we face stories in two thousand eleven of people are saying oh I voted liberal to stop the MVP and Jack Layton surgeon. I feel terrible. How can I help you? And and I saw the opposite opposite in in in two thousand fifteen and I think you're seeing people are wising up a little bit and thinking okay. I'm GonNa wait a little bit longer to do this. The other thing though. I think it's interesting plaintiffs additive so well advanced polls open. Friday universities had polls open all week. And what's happened with that youth with that university vote at the did they actually get out to the act and AH obviously those votes are already now in the bank. That's the big thing I agree with that. You're saying Jeff at this point in the campaign you WANNA Walk People in as best you can and this an opportunity to do it so the people if they if they are feeling your way and you can get him out to vote now because it wasn't they change your mind will will cast. It doesn't matter anymore but I think it's going to be interesting when it comes to the polls calls we start to see some movement in the last couple of days especially in the personal approval numbers for Mr saying. I think the question is that does that continue play. And I think that's one of the things that keep people who are undecided undecided on the sidelines. This weekend is why does he does play out wanting to see you know it is. There is another option for me. If they wait they wait ten days. I'll have a better idea of where things in stand now. The other big thing this week we had we had. Both the official commissioned debates Monday night on on on their last Thursday night in French and quite the spectacles new formats live audiences. All this lovely stuff built up around so I wanted to get both your overall impression on this. Who who want who lost? Who looked good? Who wish they'd stayed home? Jeff Yeah I think. The format lost I think that was the unanimous. As far as the English language debate was concerned I think that was unanimous amongst no matter what your partisan stripe And that was just a bit of a shame because I think people were looking forward to this as a bit more of a neutral space jason bit more of a different format than before in past campaigns and I think a lot of people were disappointed with the election Debate on in English. The French nice to be made a lot of changes. I don't know whether that was always their plan. or whether the producers went into a bunker for a couple of days to really take the the sort maelstrom around the English debate and turn it into something better in their own production So either either Kudos if they did it. Better from the GECKO or Kudos if they turned it around in a couple of days for what was arguably a much better format I think we actually heard the leaders able to communicate they all. I think the leaders and the party certainly got the message that viewers and Canadian for frustrated by this kind of scrabble talking over each other in in those sorts of things in the first debate because they were all very polite. They're all very very accommodating if you will of other people's Time on the microphone and so I thought the French debate did a better service. So it's the it's the Canadians across the country. Hopefully should've watched. Unfortunately that won't be the case in in in English Canada I think in terms of just a answer question who who sort of broke through. Didn't I think it's it's it's fairly. Well accepted Jagmeet. Did have a pretty shiny day a on the English debate. I think in part that was because First of all he's obviously a fairly positive guy. That's his brand that's his. That's his His way of doing politics and I think that was contrast especially this year coming out with a giant bludgeoned right off the bat. I think set sing up perfectly to be that Middle Guy. Hi who he was to say. Okay well you guys are arguing. You look at me while I say something. That's universally accepted by whoever hears it. It's easy to be the Nice Guy Candidate when you have nothing to lose. Yeah and no disrespect intended but Justin Trudeau was the same way in twenty fifteen. He had nothing to lose. They were the third party. He'd come in and say anything he wanted me. Obviously there's a different dynamic in play when you're a liberal the Liberal Party leader But it's nice when you're in that third third position where you can come in you. You really can't do anything wrong and I was just thinking I mean in terms of Jagmeet in this sort of this moment that seems to be lifting him a little bit in this week and I just find it interesting and maybe this is a partisan comment but I find interesting. That that he's he's he's sailing to become a very important person or A. You know a winner of this campaign by losing half of the seats. It really is this awkward dynamic of Catching Fire while the ship is burnt while the ship is sinking. It just is this dichotomy. That is hard to figure out. And it's accurate. I think he is. He is catching on. He is reaching people he he is you know sort of having that actively to frustrated voters but the stark reality of the of the of the chess pieces on the map is he's GonNa lose half of all of those things where they are today. We've got another week. We'll get into that. Neil your views on it. I will Second Jeff's opinion that One of the big losers. There's was the debate itself Having both debates in Ottawa. With at least the English language debate with five moderators Did a disservice to the National campaigns that people are running that there's only one debate French and English autosomal. There should have been one in Halifax I'm partial because I've got a very good friend in Halifax there should have been wind. You Know Edmund. Ten or or or Vancouver Just to show that this is a big country and there are different Political imperatives across the country. That that that that the regions care about My take away from the two debates is the liberals and the Conservatives fought to a tie Which I think was the best that both could hope for This is the winners. Were the smaller parties. Who who had a hard time Getting their message through up until the debate. So yes Mr Sing Mr Blanchette for awhile. He's he's now burst onto the national scene as the next Great Bloc Quebecois leader a and and Ms May of course you never know as the fifth or Sixth Party in the House of Commons. She never gets much airtime so Getting whatever where. She got twenty minutes in the debate. To talk about. Her issues is is always a good thing My my understanding. I didn't watch the french-language take did of my wife's Twenty Ninth Birthday Just catching up she can. She's catching up to me. I understand I watched the English debates Mr Single All. I understand Mr Sing Kinda ran out of talking points in the French debate. I don't I don't know whether that will hurt him in Quebec But if this is going to be a minority government which it looks like it is to your point Jeff. He may be the most important person in parliament. Y losing a quarter a third a half of a seats. Yeah I have to say. I found interesting using the frontliners debate last night. Some of the most heated exchange was actually between Andrew. Scheer and bloodshed. Like they. Actually were fairly viscerally going after each other More than just on policy points. It was a little bit personal which I find interesting because the you know. The minority speculation is that the only possible partners the Conservatives have their minorities minorities the Bloc Quebecois or piecemeal with the Liberals. But that's unlikely and I don't think that's going to be interesting to come out of this. This this last week of a campaign comes in these playoffs. Playoff the debates is that you're starting to see where the pressure points are coming whereas Mr Singh spent a lot of his time last night in the French debate going after Mr Trudeau even though when he wasn't matched up with them He went after him. You saw you saw sheer going..

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