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"negro national league" Discussed on NewsRadio 1020 KDKA

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07:14 min | Last week

"negro national league" Discussed on NewsRadio 1020 KDKA

"Just had it moments ago and asked him to stick around to repeat it. In case you didn't hear the beginning of the newscast. This is the type of stuff I want to hear about more times than not. So, Boris, if you will, please. Yeah, This is the page Park and medecine home to historic moment in baseball. The homestead grays Josh Gibson. Apparently, he wants hit a 575 foot home run Their This is back when he was playing in the Negro National Leagues of baseball in the 19 thirties, the mayor of Medecine measured that homerun said it was 575 feet. And the league was founded back in 1920. So the mayor of Medecine Matthew Sharon, yesterday made a proclamation tipping his hat to the Negro National Baseball League. And to Josh Gibson to the league itself to the Pittsburgh Crawfords, who were instrumental in restarting the league back in 1933. And Tio everything that's happened since then, Of course, the integration of baseball in 1947 with Jackie Robinson being a key figure in that, and all of the major history that has come through Pittsburgh as far as baseball goes since then. Great stuff. Great, great stuff. And Greg, I'm going to let you jump in on the conversation. Now That's a great story. Is it? Not? Good morning? Well, where am I Feel like Hell, Pacino insensitive a woman when he complained that he is in the dark here with this modern technology that we have. I can't hear Boris's commentating. So I have no idea what you guys talking about who he was talking about. Josh Gibson. Ah, 575 foot homer. They celebrated the 1/100 anniversary of the start of the Negro League in 1920. Obviously, Homestead Grays, Pittsburgh Crawfords. I just, You know, I have always been absolutely mesmerized, and it's so just incredible to think of Josh Gibson and what incredible talent he must have had and much as I love the Yankees, and as much as I love Babe Ruth If I could rewrite history in a good way, I would have loved to have seen those two competing against each other at Forbes Field. Would that not have been amazing? It really would have been. That would have been so interesting and so much fun to watch the competition. It is a shame that the players in that league did not have an opportunity to compete with the others. With Major League baseball in a sense, because we did way have a society We're kind of robbed by the ability to watch the competition that would have been so much greater so much higher level. I've always been a dream and that men, the Pittsburgh Crawfords, I thought that some one point that Crawford was an animal or something like that. But it was really just named after if I'm not mistaken, Rob the Crawford Grill in the Hill district. Yep. Yep, Absolutely right. I mean, I just love and cannot wait to always spend time and embrace. This great city's history on we're going to come back to it because of something I saw on The Pittsburgh Post. Is that the sports section about memorabilia in a moment, But can you imagine if you had a bad autographed by Josh Gibson? I hoped I'm sure there's something out there somewhere in my man. Andy Mason from the Hinds History Center would know all about that. But I just I don't know. I just love Pittsburgh sports history. But let's talk about something that made me take ivy profane at work, something I haven't done. I can't even tell you the last time because my head is just been spinning and pounding because of trying to be a message of hope in a messenger of the greater good and a better day, and why we need to forget the past and start writing good history and rewriting good history just all about good. And that was a great way to start that story from Boris. You know, it's time to change these names in professional football and baseball from Cleveland in Washington, and I was doing some thinking about Washington. They've always been a favorite of mine for a number of reasons. Going back when George Allen was a coach, obviously pit Russia's grim played there. Billy Kilmer, Sonny Jorgenson, Larry Brown, the running back. And one of my favorite quarterbacks ever. The great Doug Williams out of Grambling, who want a Super Bowl and that stadium for many years was named after a man who may have been the next biggest name in the civil rights movement who lost his life R F K as in Robert Kennedy. I just think you know what it's time, Greg and I don't know how you feel about it, and I know a lot of people get concerned about You know what about the tradition? Listen, it's still in your city. They're still there and may be. It's a chance for everybody to just kind of go from the jump and and really start to have good history and memories and put Things behind us and look native Americans the atrocities that were committed against them or just limitless. We could be here for days talking about it, but I'm all for one, Greg. It's time to turn the page and move on to the next chapter. Absolutely Robin Sports is supposed to be fun. That's supposed to be a place to let go. Of all the other problems that you have going on in society and and enjoy yourself in the nickname of your team is hurtful to anyone. Why keep it? What? Why? You mean you're not married to a nickname? It's not like you're gonna be be hurt in any way. If you change the nickname of your team, it's time to move on from that. Get rid of that that hurtful feeling that it's a conversation that is shouldn't even be necessary. They should have been done years ago, and I was glad to see that. Shady side academy. This past week is chain has voted to change their nickname. So people are slowly but surely coming to realization that there are certain things that I really just can't be hurt or need to be done away with it. They're no good that comes of that team in Washington being made the way that they are. Listen, I have watched many movies about Jackie Robinson, including the one that he starred in his own life story, and I'm not gonna lie. I have been at home, shedding tears and these were movies that were mild compared to obviously how they would have brought out what really happened today and you would have heard everything but I think of names like in a slaughter and Ty Cobb, who were great players, but they were not the nicest of people when it came to Treating people of color on I must tell you I've never and I've loved the ST Louis Cardinals because of connections and my family and what have you, but it's tough for you to embrace names like that. And if you ever saw the movie Tommy Lee Jones portraying Ty Cobb an amazing movie, because it really depicts a guy who was just caught up in the time and didn't understand. But I think it's time that no one can use that. I didn't understand. We understand because of Minneapolis in Atlanta. What happened? We need to get going again. And I had a gentleman who was trying to give me a debate about this black national anthem and I just simply said, Let it happen. Let's move on. It's okay. If it makes us come together, So be it. Do what you need to do. No, Ted so articulately the last couple of weeks talking about staging it in two different ways as Faras, the national anthem. If someone wants to take a knee, Mike Tomlin has been just heroic in my mind, even the great Roger Goodell someone making a point saying, for this guy to really change the thought process of him and the leg we are making something really happened in the way of social change..

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08:27 min | 3 weeks ago

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"Hard to say for their sponsorship and bring our attention. To this book by Dan Diane Shaw, he says a farewell to arms, legs and Jock straps. I know you'll enjoy the free sample and I know you'll enjoy the book. Try it out, and as they say, you'll be glad you did all right back to our conversation Erica's. Seems like we're getting a sense of of Posey sort of idea that there's there's money to be made. There's there's a business so to speak in this, but I'm also really curious as to. It seems like it's a pretty successful enterprise, if not daunting in terms of travel and getting all the players he needs and being on the move all the time. I? Guess the flirtations as the only word I can come up with right now of quote Unquote League play, and there seemed to be a couple of different starting points for that one in I guess it was nineteen twenty nine. There's an interesting year to circle. Right with this quote. Unquote American Negro League again. With this East West League thing in thirty two. So I. Give me a sense of maybe why and what these? Formative leaks were and why maybe the attraction? You had the second. The first rupe roster in Chicago, founded and others founded the first Negro National League and Nineteen Twenty which is primarily mid, western basically. Did in nineteen, twenty, three the eastern Colored League. Started in Along the eastern seaboard, roughly from our basically from New York City. Down to Baltimore. And some places in between. Posey Had Opportunities to join both leagues and. This is what I HIS WHO so canny! I mean he he would go against the grain. If you thought it would work. He resisted joining. Two Leagues for a couple of reasons. One of which was if you didn't belong to the League's. He could Without real impunity. Read their rosters signed the best players and degrades made money. He said this is probably true. At the Graz made money every year until the depression There is no overarching commissioner or czar or judge, Landis or whatever of black baseball. And you can go shopping for players, and if you're in the league, there was there were a lot of restrictions, but if you weren't in the League. You can entice good talent. Away from somebody who was in the league. It wasn't a whole lot. They could do about it. They could refuse to play you, but then the greys were such a good draw. They probably wouldn't do that either. He also marketed his Pittsburgh area. The Eastern League stopped short of Pittsburgh to Western. League stopped Short Pittsburgh but the two leagues would play. Exhibition Games if you will with each other and he, he said. Hey, you're coming back. East to West West to east wants to stop in Pittsburgh and play the grace. For a day, and then move on, and that worked, that worked pretty well to. He tried to get a formal arrangement, but That didn't really work out, but in but. He started to play Negro Degrade, started to play Negro. League teams by picking them up as they pass through western Pennsylvania and route to either Chicago say or Philadelphia whatever. So there was so so he was. On the. Outskirts on the fringes of league baseball, but he refused to get involved until nineteen twenty nine. When he when he put to graze in the. In the American Negro League and by that point we think of. We think of the depression and you know starting with the Wall Street crash. You Know Tober but what? What really was happening? which there was a real decline in American manufacturing starting by Nineteen Twenty, seven. I mean. The depression. Largely started because. Manufacturer just making too much in the. Warehouses were full of refrigerators and. Furniture and everything else that people. We're making more than people could buy so. Manufacturing jobs at the tail off two or three years before the so-called beginning data the depression that affected black wage earners. You know they. They stay had been most recently hired generally speaking. In manufacturing and they held lower paid positions. You know what they say. Last, in first out, so unemployment started to grow in the black community. And the more unemployed there are the fewer baseball tickets are. GonNa be sold? And the. Pittsburgh was very industrially based, and it's just hurting the white teams to what the white semi pro team started to go out of existence because they're sponsors could no longer. Afford to fund them and. I think he looked around and saw the. His base, which is the regional semi pro base money base was starting to disintegrate, and so he hopped into league. And from then on, if there was a league to grays, we're probably in it. He just looked he just. He looked around the land. They financial landscape saw that he. His reasons for avoiding the League's. We're no longer paramount, so they joined the League, and of course they were more than welcome because they were always a good draw. Right, that's actually but that obviously that that version of the American Negro League was literally a one year wonder, and obviously now in a much more broadly depressed that nation and economics, and all that stuff beyond the the the lead in you're describing prior to the actual crash, and all the obviousness of it I. Guess in Twenty Nine so I mean. Now I'm really interested in so okay I. I get the idea that perhaps there might be sort of strength in numbers, and maybe there's more of a financially advantageous rationale sort of be within something, a bit more structured, and obviously that all sort of goes to Helena handbasket by the end of this one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine ninth season had. How does he I guess? Go back to being an independent team and fun for a long I. Guess for a couple more years because. That seems to also lead him to the conclusion of of maybe going back to the league structure again a few years later, but albeit maybe with him. I don't know having designs on how to maybe set one up. Well the the Negro National League folded in nineteen thirty, two, the eastern Colored League and the American National League and already gone by the boards. Except for the Negro Southern League which you're sort of. Always considered to be a minor league, but in thirty two. It was like the last man standing, so they were a major league even. Just because they were there. So he actually had very good independent teams in thirty and thirty one, and in thirty two. He made what I'd have to say. Is His only really dumb? Decision he started. He started a league in the depths of the depression called the East West League. He controlled two teams outright in it of the six, and probably had a lot to say of the management of the team in Cleveland because it was. Run by one of his old basketball, but he's from Pittsburgh. Who told everybody? No, this is my money. This is my money. I'm not sure anybody believed him so posey control literally controlled somewhere between a third to a half of the league. And it didn't work by July. Was Out of business. Why why do you think didn't it work was largely the for all the other reasons that other leagues were not surviving frankly obviously other worst time in the world to start a new baseball league. Not, even the white majors are doing well in nineteen thirty two. No was doing well I. Have No idea why did this?.

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"negro national league" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

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08:19 min | 5 months ago

"negro national league" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

"The one hundredth anniversary of the formation of the Negro National League is being celebrated particularly at the Negro leagues baseball museum in Kansas city Missouri there's been an exhibit there for the last year celebrating the history and the rich traditions the legacy of the Negro baseball leagues of course were so many brilliant African American players plied their talents before the integration of Major League Baseball the twentieth century by Jackie Robinson in nineteen forty seven with the Brooklyn Dodgers one of the remarkable aspects of the exhibit taking place our series of oil portraits of prominent players from the Negro baseball leagues by the artist who joins us now Greg Chrysler Greg thank you for being with us thank you for having me Jeremy Greg you you paint these remarkable these remarkable oil portraits and scenes from baseball's history how did how did a fine artists such as yourself choose baseball as his primary topic well you know it kind of started with my dad's baseball card collection you know when I was very little he he grew up you know in the forties and fifties and collected baseball cards as you know most kids his age death and his mother summarily through most of them out like most mothers did I I had that experience my eyes a little more complicated but it's it's the same general story yeah yeah same same kind of thing but yeah he was able to hold on to a few of them and I guess when I was younger I kind of discovered them and and you know he used to tell me about the players that he watched and and load you know Mickey mantle yogi bear Yankee St still have the Yankees Sam and that's why you're Greg G. R. A. I. G. exactly the third baseman Greg yeah you're the only two G. R. A. I. Jeez I think I've ever heard of Greg since well they're not many of us we're speaking with Greg Chrysler the artist the baseball artist remarkably gifted painter at this point in time two hundred and thirty portraits of his are being exhibited at the Negro leagues baseball museum in Kansas city Missouri it's a spectacular museum and it's celebrating right now the one hundredth anniversary of the formation of the Negro National League which was organized by Rube foster in nineteen twenty and February nineteen twenty of course the really existed before nineteen twenty but that was the formation of the pre eminent black baseball league the Negro National League in nineteen twenty and their two hundred thirty two over thirty portraits you've done right there five by seven their Maisie how long does it take to pay two hundred thirty portraits no man will be project was about two and a half to three years long so yeah it it it took awhile each painting cook you know probably at least five to six hours but you know some we're ten hours twelve hours but in the research that goes into each painting that can usually they can usually go past you know any training time that that I could be easily some of these players of course are are very prominent figures known by all true fans of the games whether it's Josh Gibson or a Buck Leonard or a James cool Papa Ballard Oscar Charleston but some are are more obscure at how with these players chosen as your subjects well we the fellow who put the put the show together the guy who commissioned at all J. called well he he kind of had a vision for this thing you know not only representing the stars of the Negro leagues and you know the outsider leaks but but also you know kind of the role players or or people who had interesting stories in in one way or another and I think the scope of it he just kind of wanted to to show you know a slice of everything if that makes sense we're speaking with the artist Greg Chrysler about his paintings which are now being exhibited starting this week in celebration of the one hundredth anniversary of the formation of the Negro National League they're being exhibited at the Negro leagues baseball museum it is in Kansas city Missouri correct correct yes it is okay I'm I'm I'm not being facetious that the museum is in Kansas city Missouri I think it's been open for about ten years or so if they do great great work at the museum celebrating the rich heritage of African American baseball pre dating the integration of the game in nineteen forty seven I'm looking out your Twitter feed at a portrait of the great Buck o'neil who is one of the better players in the Negro leagues in its waning days and then of course became kind of in it eloquence historian of the leagues and spokesperson for leagues later in life and was among the key figures in Ken burns his documentary on baseball it's it's a it's a great portrait obviously you're not of your subjects were sitting for you most of them are no longer with us how did you go about finding the photographs that you would model your oil portraits after well luckily I I do have a lot of friends who are you know into collecting people who are in the memorabilia industry and they were able to help with a lot of those players but you know it just it took a lot of taking you know whether it was the old newspapers or books or you know whatever I I just I kind of went to basically every lank they could to find images of some of these guys and it was definitely not easy the server you know the Negro leagues were not as well documented visually as as the white league so it it was just kind of tough finding the look of this history and trying to get it right is there a way I mean I I I don't know much about portraiture but obviously it's more than just it it's more it's about finding a depth to the subjects that goes beyond the physical characteristics of whoever it is you're painting in when you're we're painting legendary figures such is a Josh Gibson or Oscar Charleston or a satchel Paige whose personalities are even well known these days a long after their deaths how do you view those portraits was something beyond just what they look like well it's you know I think what I what I would try to do or what I did try to do is you know I would read up on on each painting on our each you know subject I was painting and I I try to kind of internalized I guess the character that that they were or at least from you know what accounts callous and I I kind of wish I I hope that some of that kind of gets the Butte into the painting you know it's kind of an intangible thing I find I think my main concern was actually just trying to get you to pick them you know kind of accurately as accurately as possible so you so you're giving the viewer kind of a look at what these guys actually looked like and you're showing them that they were real people that you know brief the same error that that we actually breed so it's you know it's it's kind of like I'm trying to act like a visual reporter this that makes sense just kind of showing what what life was like and what it was like Greg Chrysler's portraits of two hundred thirty figures from Negro leagues baseball are on display at the Negro leagues baseball museum in Kansas city starting this week they're really remarkable Greg and they're just bursting with vitality beautiful its it's it's a pleasure having you on the show in thank you for this great work thank you Jeremy I appreciate you having me on.

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02:07 min | 2 years ago

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"Well she did have influence on the compensation issue ricky also took don newcombe from the eagles pitcher with out any compensation to the manley's and that really got f very angry and she wrote a lot of newspaper articles about it and gave speeches about it and then when ricky approached her about mani urban she said you're gonna have to pay me to or also you as she actually threatened to sue vike and upon hearing that ricky just dropped the matter and f amana got on a or contract with the new york giants and was paid for that so that the other thing she was helpful is when larry doby got the attention of bill back with the cleveland indians he owned a number teams that time he owned the cleveland indians and she insisted that back pay her five thousand dollars to get dobie try out and ten thousand dollars that kept obi and that agreed to that in many ways back was very helpful then in compensation to negro league teams i can't a different take on things then then ricky did that guy thinks characterize the negro league teams as they're not that bad they shuffle along whereas ricky just thought they were an exploitive system of owners exploiting players so beck and epa mate and affective team and providing the president i guess you'd call it for compensating negro league teams for their players well it's also interesting too because you know the team the eagles were they essentially reached the pinnacle of of the negro league playing playoff system by winning the negro league world series in in forty six and it's an interesting time almost feels almost a kismet.

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01:41 min | 2 years ago

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"Breath of fresh air given the the similarities of of these owners of the teams in the league well that's true marketing was a large part of what she did and one place she concentrated marketing efforts was on opening day she would make an effort to bring in a lot of big name people such as joe louis the senators from new jersey to attend the game throw out the first ball of the you know i pech to get the season off on a good start and she would do more you know less visible things like pick a white printing company to print the tickets to the games thinking that the white printing company could get the tickets to potential white spectators more easily that could a african american printing company she was all about getting people into the stands to make much money as possible for the eagles and at the same time that she was marketing she was she was negotiating with players to get them signed for the least amount of money she could get away with so a lot of her concern in addition to doing things to both the race was to bolster the bottom line the eagles so but she was also i guess part of the mix of handling scheduling and and and contracts and all those so it seems to me that she you know was truly to your point earlier becoming or maybe even defining the role of what is today known as general manager.

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02:16 min | 2 years ago

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"And fried chicken and the games were often scheduled to start right after church so they whole came very well dressed to the games it was its own society kind of almost seems like a parallel universe of some respect and some bizarre but but understandably the times right right that's and and for that very reason they were the negro leagues were looked down upon by people like branch rickey who knows well into working in the major leagues where things a lot better organized so he gave he didn't think very much of the negro leagues and as a matter of fact would just go in and take a play or two many leagues without paying the team anything or talking to the manager that's what he did prince with jackie robinson he just talked to jackie robinson when robinson was what's the monarchs and said would you like to play with man robinson said i show would so he got signed but the monarch scott nothing for it and some of that happened with f in the newark eagles as well well so insteps f manley into this this world obviously of men obviously of you know an interesting sort of parallel business approach or business approach to to running a baseball franchises lb in the negro leagues which were you know obviously sort of different in parallel universe to that of what was then major league baseball maybe you can give us a sense of sort of how she becomes more data day in involved and maybe instead of the manners in which she does become involved it seems like marketing and promotion with certainly thing of hers and it also seems to me that she was quite creative shall we say in terms of how to think differently perhaps maybe maybe with a sort of a more you know i wanna call it naive but sort of outsiders perspective right which arguably could have been a great.

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02:37 min | 2 years ago

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"Before we go further with with the eagles at self and then an f f manley's involvement more deeply with them can you give us a little bit of a scene set about the negro national league that they were part of right because this was actually i think the second incarnation of the negro national leaguer maybe give us a sense of of that interest the negro leagues generally in terms of how they were structured and and the various teams and stuff how they were you know how they were situated back in the day okay child try and do that they had been negro league baseball since the days of the civil war barnstorming teams playing in different parts of the country nineteen twenty rube foster in chicago organizes league he brings six eight teams together former league i play games with each other as appositely the great depression comes along the league cannot survive financially goes out of business for a year or two and then reemerges in about nineteen thirty three and and you got the collection of owners named leagues did not have much of a sense of organization they played as many games as they could they wrote buses of course i couldn't eat and stay at white establishments so they suffered a lot of that kind of discrimination the players on the teams if they got a better offer in mexico puerto rico cuba they would simply leave or said they would jump their team to go south and and double and triple their salary and then they would come back and always forgiven even though that rankled f i she thought there should be penalties for players who jumped and came back but they were such box office attractions that they brought in the money when they showed up so it was ill organized operation on any front you wanna think of one of the things that kept the negro leagues together was that a game negro league game provided african americans sanctuary where they could go and just be themselves and they didn't have to worry about all the discrimination they were facing in their daytoday lives so they would take beer and liquor.

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01:52 min | 2 years ago

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"Totally baseball as a thing that could grow create more jobs for african americans provide african americans with more sanctuary kind of places that they could go and not be hassled by the white population as as they were in those days so her driving force was improving the conditions for african americans happen to be in arena of baseball because she was married to a man and she herself had an interest in baseball but she could have performed equally well and any other field endeavor insurance funeral parlors hotels given that drive to improve conditions for african americans plus she had just a lot of native intelligence baden self confidence is a great role model i think she had a high school education she didn't go to college what was her source of of income and her support before meeting avon was she you know any any documentation of sort of the kinds of jobs were were other interests this was doing prior to to meeting eben and then becoming launching baseball career she worked for ten or twelve years in new york city and a millonarios i think it is a shop where they make dresses in hats for women that was what her mother had done and she learned those skills from a mother got a job with them in new york city and she was light enough skin that people really didn't know she was african american she probably would have a tougher time if they add.

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01:51 min | 2 years ago

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"Typical at which you would you run the team please and she did abe would would pick out the players he was so chief scout and epa would drop contracts with a place she wouldn't go shared with a player she would find him places to stay she would sell tickets are publicity man and do all that business associates with really administering any baseball team this one newark eagles and she would go to these meetings and they would just be very conflicted meetings where she would have you know suggest how they could for instance change tick lower ticket prices for the negro league all star game that she thought that would attract more people in the long run they'd make more money and i mean and that was an example of kind of suggestion she would make which was that time totally shot down where where's she getting her her moxie and or her i guess sort of quote unquote qualifications i mean ed she had any sort of marketing and or business experience per se either directly or indirectly related to to baseball and and and sports management or you know at his hershey learning by sheer will and and just cunning and logic and intelligence or you know how does she even get the that she's you know as a viable voice in all of this she had a very strong commitment to improving conditions for african americans she would talk about doing things the race as she put it she would say at these meetings we're talking about more than i can money we're talking about the race and and she saw negro.

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01:48 min | 2 years ago

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"Now when you say when you say running numbers that has a obviously a little bit of a connotation there right you want to explain maybe to our young here that what positively or negatively well back in the day it was an illegal lottery person would bet a certain amount of money that certain row of numbers which show up in the newspaper you would you could bet that the number three five one which up in person's account that was running the game and if it showed up you got a pay off then show he lost you money at that time it was a legal today it's the lottery is legal it's basically the same process only in those days it was illegal and a man other number runners did all of that under cover they had people working for him who look out for the police and one thing and another and made him a lot of money made him a lot of enemies somebody bombed his house and came to new jersey he was vice leave town so he did and he moved to brooklyn which is where he met f and his first team was the brooklyn eagles they were voted into the national negro league as the new team and i like all expansion teams from available players didn't get the best players didn't have the best season and so he decided to move from brooklyn new york over to newark or he thought team would basically make more money.

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02:06 min | 2 years ago

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"Just of of experiences just by that second the fact that she's a woman right in a very male almost exclusively male dominated sport of baseball and then third you know the the dynamics of the sport of baseball itself right which is reflective sadly around some of the the mores of the time the sort of separate but equal you know craziness and all that stuff and just this rich cultural and and talent bed of of the negro leagues how does this you know aside from the normal she was born in baba blah how does see how did how do you kind of start this story as it because of her shall we say african american female nece or is it a story of a young girl who falls in love the sport of baseball and and decides to do something with it despite her seemingly ill prepared background shall we say i would say story about negro league baseball using the newark eagles as the fame and epa manley as the main character she wants a big baseball fan and would go to yankees she had a job in melanie shop in new york and lived in new york and would go to yankee stadium to see ruth who was her big baseball hero and that's what she met her husband manley who ran numbers and was into real estate and made lots of money and the two of them got together and he put up the money for the team at she basically ran it and it's also a story about her character i mean she was just she as you say she was woman in a man's world she was black and white world but she was just very determined and focused and full of self confidence and moved pride ahead i she met a lot of resistance on the owners of other negro league teams who are male and but she should be home in the kitchen.

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01:44 min | 2 years ago

"negro national league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

"Well that's a great question that's something i had to learn i really had no idea to do that and as you say it's very different than academic writing i talk with some friends of mine who are professional writers and that was a big help my research projects i spent a lot of time to library congress where they have old newspapers that have been digitized and you can find out practically anything you wanna know about i went to newark new jersey where in the public library in newark they have at the manley's correspondents on microfilm so i went through all that and then i just started trying to tell the story somehow did a couple of drafts of the book and got a lot of help and feedback from my editor who kept nudging made toward the the narrative style of of writing and so i think it's largely story of trial and error with help from friends and basically writing professionals that helped me get to the place where i could put a story together that or a narrative together that publish it would be interested in publishing well so how did how did that narrative begin because i think again with the book were courses the most famous moon in baseball f mainly in the negro leagues you know and that's that's quite something right because as i said earlier her story right is is one of of many parallels right being an african american woman just generally in society especially in the early to mid nineteen hundreds not the.

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02:02 min | 2 years ago

"negro national league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

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02:02 min | 2 years ago

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"The national baseball hall of fame and it's it's interesting on a whole different bunch of fronts right because that says something a woman in the very male dominated sport of baseball and we'd we've talked about that with our friend john the liana dyke's about how women in baseball have had relatively tortuous history still today even trying to break in and play the game at the same levels men but obviously a manly was african american as well so that's makes for a doubly interesting induction and and legacy and story to tell and look i think it's it's a very intriguing discussion and understanding of how somebody like an f a manley in that day and age in the nineteen thirties kind of beat the challenges of both her skin color and her gender for whatever ridiculous reasons to you know to challenge the all boys club shall we say and and make some stuff happen and some lasting imprint on the sport of baseball and it's ability to be promoted and marketed and the talent how to fight for the rights of players the seeds of some of the work that she did leading up to integration of baseball jackie robinson in particular most notably but but a whole host of other players it's just a fascinating story and it's one that we're going to get into with our guest bob luke the author of the most famous woman baseball f a manly and the negro leagues that is the topic of our conversation coming up in just a couple of moments we want to remind you that sports history collectibles dot com is our friend in our sponsor and we encourage you to go check him out for that perfect gift for the sportsman and your life and if you're looking for items from teams or leagues that are no longer with us or interracial.

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02:03 min | 2 years ago

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"Agro national league in the nineteen thirties the team known as the newark eagles which you historians out there probably know was a merger between two teams prior in nineteen thirty five the brooklyn eagles and the newark dodgers brooklyn moving to newark to become the newark eagles in nineteen thirty six and through the efforts of abe manley the founder of the brooklyn eagles franchise and most interestingly his his wife f manley who is going to be the the topic of of this this conversation with our guest this week bob luke who has written a seminal book about f amand lee's life and times it is called the most famous woman in baseball f a manly and the negro leagues and i don't fancy myself as a baseball historian i as i joke with bob i play one on television right maybe but in my mind and as we pursue you know our little journeys here in this little podcast to me the newark eagles the brooklyn eagles the negro national league whatever version you know all of these names and teams and leagues these are fascinating to me and these are what once were the negro leagues in particular of course have deep and rich history and are essential part of the fabric of of not only the sport of baseball but pro sports generally and what it it led to and and frankly it mirroring some of the struggles that still go onto day ridiculously in this country but it is just a it is a wellspring of of amazing stories and anecdotes and heritage and we're going to be talking about epa manly and her contributions to the sport of baseball and for those of you who don't know you know f manley was at is the first ever woman to be inducted into the.

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02:07 min | 2 years ago

"negro national league" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"They're treating us nice they're giving us food and water to come on down al's we're gonna have a great year appeal and all these kids i don't like that of the the eastern mississippi community college college team that's all that bad netflix documentary but a lot of those kids are in a bit fau that's absolutely that's what a you know what that's what link if it is a bad netflixing documentary or a really good community college coach very good all right let's take you do a nineteen forty eight the baseball's negro national league disbands what happened there cope so we dropped the ball the jackie robinson dick tell her barron the lawyer ads right he was a beautiful i said a lot of people dropped the ball guide on just as her out our 1950 nine joe fast name first commissioner of the afl 1960 warned billy williams now billy dee williams so we can echo 45 by the way at the end of empire strikes back why is lando have hohns vest on like what's up with that like a key can fly malaysian faulk and you could rolla chewy while you were a vest dog that's a great tanked not anything i've ever really thought about the hold that forum why where my first visit freezing prior firms chambers for you gotta yeah doesn't get crowds unilever terio yes depletes i don't understand why you wear it is why you wear my vest dog that you're not the captain of the ship i want it from you fair and square orlando kick off the vests playboy all right sorry i digress all right let's go to 19th seventy one tv movie brian song course about the gray brian piccolo that debuts on abc tv for the first time 19 81 rags dave righetti wins a l rookie of the year vertigo rags let's take it in 1991 we got some sound for this force world championship of women soccer as team usa defeats those stubborn norwegians two to one now hit break all of the foyer brought up two.

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01:38 min | 3 years ago

"negro national league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

"That was a legacy stand out in those early days uh in baseball history called the kansas city monarchs and he's written a a tremendously interesting book about the founder of that team who has a a a great tied to the sport of baseball a before launching the monarchs uh way back when in the negro national league back in the in the 1920s um and and certainly since then as well uh by his posthumous a induction into the uh baseball hall of fame his name was jail wilkinson the book uh that bill young as it's called jail wilkinson and the kansas city monarchs trailblazers in black baseball a tremendous a writing some very interesting stories that there were talk to mr young about in a second uh and i encourage you to listen to all the way through anna you will you will learn a lot as i did and will continue to uh in the in the months to come before we get to our conversation with that with bill young i do want to remind you that uh we are indeed again sponsored by and brought to you by our friends at audible as you know hopefully you know by now if you haven't gone to our little website to uh to find out more about at shame on you but audible is the premier provider of digital audio books with over one hundred eighty thousand titles go ahead count them i'll wait that you can choose from just about every genre whether that be business or romance or sifi comedy thrillers at nonfiction you name it a audible probably hasn't all their titles from audible.

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