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"He was he was very lows to ever admit he was wrong about anything, but he kind of allowed by the end of nineteen thirty two This wasn't a very good year to try this. which is about the closest he ever came to admitting he was at fault about anything. So, but it's also interesting to because it's my understanding. That was also. I want to say it's ahead of its time. It will get to that second. I think it Kinda was, but the seemed to be like the first maybe attempt to kind of. Include teams. In what we're both. Separate at the time, a previous to if both from an eastern and midwestern. Kind of Geog- geographic kind of approach anxious for sure right timeline, not necessarily, but the idea of maybe I don't know it seems to me almost like sort of became the ahead of its time by a couple of years sort of scenes of how to maybe finally once and for all at some point. Create a standard bearer for pro. Black Baseball League play. Yes, that's interesting because as integration. Loomed in the mid forties he started to. Market his solution. And and and you know. I hadn't really thought of it before, but maybe this is where it started. He had idea of one nearly at that time there were two. There was Negro net second ego. National League was just pretty much. Pennsylvania and east coast based in, and it was the Negro American league. Which is the Midwest and The. Upper south. And he said look, we can compete. I don't know I. Don't know if you I don't know if history would approve him right, but he said we can compete with the two white major leagues if we pair our system down to a really strong. Single Black League that stretches from the East Coast to the Midwest. With the best with eight teams with the best players. We could be so good. We could even challenge the white leagues to A. Championship series now I don't know. If that would ever have worked, but it's an incredibly audacious. Idea worthy of Posey. No one took him up on it because we'll primarily the Negro American league wasn't in favor of because they would've had to jettison their entire. Southern, tier which Posey wasn't interested in which was really due to transportation costs kind of a drag on the whole system anyway. But yeah, he was, he meant. He meant there to be a struggle powerful Black leak. He's just pick an awful time to try to float his idea. Nineteen thirty two. Well, it also but also get a sense. Though that there was the there was also the not only the beginnings of what would come after that, but also t tell me about sort of almost seems like there was an interest city or a region sort of rivalry with without of the Pittsburgh. Crawford's to right because. Gus Greenlee you had. It seems like the Greenlee kind of said okay. Well, you know we'll. We're GONNA continue to do this right? Even if the East West League is not the original where the right path forward he seemed to be convinced that. This was still worth doing and he actually I did he break away I guess and create this. Negro National, League! I'm just curious as to how Greenlee and Posey were kind of. I don't know in their own. Maybe separate ways kind of still. GNAWING at that idea of top tier. Pro Negro League Baseball. Really didn't break way so much as he filled, he filled a vacuum to the east West gone out of business in thirty two. They really there were there were no major league except for the Negro Southern League putting along down there. in the south. Greenlee had a lot of money. He was in the entertainment business. you know in the Kiana Club nightclub, but mostly made his money from being the Pittsburgh czar of numbers gambling, which we now know as the state lottery in Arizona Real, annoy, or Pennsylvania or anywhere. Great a great money making business particularly. You didn't have to share it with the government. Because it was all illegal at the time. Greenlee had a lot of money, and Crawford's were an up and coming semi pro team they needed. Financial backing he. He liked sports. He had a stable price. Fighters including John Henry Lewis who was a middleweight champion of the world at that time. He likes sports. He liked the and he bankrolled Crawford's and he did what Posey did over a period of. Six or seven years, which is to say? Kind of ease out. The local talent and bring in. Major League quality talented green. Did it in about a year? He just told he started signing these high level guys. And he told the locals. Hey, look if you don't. We're now a full-time team. If you don't WanNa play full-time, you gotta leave and they almost all of them left. For the coffers became. The high rated team just as posy Posey was practically broke by thirty two. He and his wife almost lost their house to repossession. He signed a Lotta Posey's players. And and Crawford's became the predominant team for a brief time. And Greenlee then organized the second. Negro National League using the name of the first one although it was entirely. Almost entirely. East Coast based. On northeastern based. And degrade. We're allowed in. And to graze halfway through the nineteen thirty three season the initial season we're kicked out because Posey had gone and signed a couple of players from the Detroit Stars. In the League violating the rules against player rating and his his saying was. These guys were owed a month salary and destroyed hadn't paid them so I signed them far as I'm concerned their fire game. It was sort of like. The League said it was one of those things with a an employee was the boss says you're fired? And the employee says you can't fire me I. quit I'm not sure which happened I if they were kicked out of the League or he left the league, but any rate he was out of the League, so they went back and played independently and. Nineteen thirty four. He rejoined as a F- associated with. Socio members, which is to say, they were not counted in the league standings, but they could play league teams. They had to keep their hands off the other the rest of the league players. Major concession on Posey's part. But they were successful by thirty five. They were back in the league and they were doing okay. They were not doing great, but they were in the middle of the League. Then Green we started to come into money troubles, he was credibly over extended, and after turning a blind eye on vice in Pittsburgh for years for. Political reasons I'm sure, maybe moral reasons. City started to crack down on the numbers business. So posey started to get. Some of his, he started to get his players back. He also got his own money partner. A guy named Rufus Jackson. Who is the numbers King of homestead? Who Punch who likes sports also pumped lots of money into the grace of the greys were solve it again and successful greenlees team. was going downhill. And by the end of the thirties, Greenie was out of the baseball business and Posey was. By thirty, eight started a string of nine street. Negro Nationally Championships with grays. Posey had a longtime friend named John Clark. Who is a journalist and PR man around Pittsburgh Black. But there were five Clark went to work for Greenlee Intra five years. Clark Posey battled like wolves in the press. About who is right and who is wrong and then? Greeley went by the boards and Clark. You know. Posey had no reason to fight anymore, so they became friends and one time there. There's talking after to Crawford's demise. And Posey said to Clark you know. I always knew I would win because Gus. Greenlee never understood the baseball business, which is to say, you have to build your base slowly methodically..

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"He was he was very lows to ever admit he was wrong about anything, but he kind of allowed by the end of nineteen thirty two This wasn't a very good year to try this. which is about the closest he ever came to admitting he was at fault about anything. So, but it's also interesting to because it's my understanding. That was also. I want to say it's ahead of its time. It will get to that second. I think it Kinda was, but the seemed to be like the first maybe attempt to kind of. Include teams. In what we're both. Separate at the time, a previous to if both from an eastern and midwestern. Kind of Geog- geographic kind of approach anxious for sure right timeline, not necessarily, but the idea of maybe I don't know it seems to me almost like sort of became the ahead of its time by a couple of years sort of scenes of how to maybe finally once and for all at some point. Create a standard bearer for pro. Black Baseball League play. Yes, that's interesting because as integration. Loomed in the mid forties he started to. Market his solution. And and and you know. I hadn't really thought of it before, but maybe this is where it started. He had idea of one nearly at that time there were two. There was Negro net second ego. National League was just pretty much. Pennsylvania and east coast based in, and it was the Negro American league. Which is the Midwest and The. Upper south. And he said look, we can compete. I don't know I. Don't know if you I don't know if history would approve him right, but he said we can compete with the two white major leagues if we pair our system down to a really strong. Single Black League that stretches from the East Coast to the Midwest. With the best with eight teams with the best players. We could be so good. We could even challenge the white leagues to A. Championship series now I don't know. If that would ever have worked, but it's an incredibly audacious. Idea worthy of Posey. No one took him up on it because we'll primarily the Negro American league wasn't in favor of because they would've had to jettison their entire. Southern, tier which Posey wasn't interested in which was really due to transportation costs kind of a drag on the whole system anyway. But yeah, he was, he meant. He meant there to be a struggle powerful Black leak. He's just pick an awful time to try to float his idea. Nineteen thirty two. Well, it also but also get a sense. Though that there was the there was also the not only the beginnings of what would come after that, but also t tell me about sort of almost seems like there was an interest city or a region sort of rivalry with without of the Pittsburgh. Crawford's to right because. Gus Greenlee you had. It seems like the Greenlee kind of said okay. Well, you know we'll. We're GONNA continue to do this right? Even if the East West League is not the original where the right path forward he seemed to be convinced that. This was still worth doing and he actually I did he break away I guess and create this. Negro National, League! I'm just curious as to how Greenlee and Posey were kind of. I don't know in their own. Maybe separate ways kind of still. GNAWING at that idea of top tier. Pro Negro League Baseball. Really didn't break way so much as he filled, he filled a vacuum to the east West gone out of business in thirty two. They really there were there were no major league except for the Negro Southern League putting along down there. in the south. Greenlee had a lot of money. He was in the entertainment business. you know in the Kiana Club nightclub, but mostly made his money from being the Pittsburgh czar of numbers gambling, which we now know as the state lottery in Arizona Real, annoy, or Pennsylvania or anywhere. Great a great money making business particularly. You didn't have to share it with the government. Because it was all illegal at the time. Greenlee had a lot of money, and Crawford's were an up and coming semi pro team they needed. Financial backing he. He liked sports. He had a stable price. Fighters including John Henry Lewis who was a middleweight champion of the world at that time. He likes sports. He liked the and he bankrolled Crawford's and he did what Posey did over a period of. Six or seven years, which is to say? Kind of ease out. The local talent and bring in. Major League quality talented green. Did it in about a year? He just told he started signing these high level guys. And he told the locals. Hey, look if you don't. We're now a full-time team. If you don't WanNa play full-time, you gotta leave and they almost all of them left. For the coffers became. The high rated team just as posy Posey was practically broke by thirty two. He and his wife almost lost their house to repossession. He signed a Lotta Posey's players. And and Crawford's became the predominant team for a brief time. And Greenlee then organized the second. Negro National League using the name of the first one although it was entirely. Almost entirely. East Coast based. On northeastern based. And degrade. We're allowed in. And to graze halfway through the nineteen thirty three season the initial season we're kicked out because Posey had gone and signed a couple of players from the Detroit Stars. In the League violating the rules against player rating and his his saying was. These guys were owed a month salary and destroyed hadn't paid them so I signed them far as I'm concerned their fire game. It was sort of like. The League said it was one of those things with a an employee was the boss says you're fired? And the employee says you can't fire me I. quit I'm not sure which happened I if they were kicked out of the League or he left the league, but any rate he was out of the League, so they went back and played independently and. Nineteen thirty four. He rejoined as a F- associated with. Socio members, which is to say, they were not counted in the league standings, but they could play league teams. They had to keep their hands off the other the rest of the league players. Major concession on Posey's part. But they were successful by thirty five. They were back in the league and they were doing okay. They were not doing great, but they were in the middle of the League. Then Green we started to come into money troubles, he was credibly over extended, and after turning a blind eye on vice in Pittsburgh for years for. Political reasons I'm sure, maybe moral reasons. City started to crack down on the numbers business. So posey started to get. Some of his, he started to get his players back. He also got his own money partner. A guy named Rufus Jackson. Who is the numbers King of homestead? Who Punch who likes sports also pumped lots of money into the grace of the greys were solve it again and successful greenlees team. was going downhill. And by the end of the thirties, Greenie was out of the baseball business and Posey was. By thirty, eight started a string of nine street. Negro Nationally Championships with grays. Posey had a longtime friend named John Clark. Who is a journalist and PR man around Pittsburgh Black. But there were five Clark went to work for Greenlee Intra five years. Clark Posey battled like wolves in the press. About who is right and who is wrong and then? Greeley went by the boards and Clark. You know. Posey had no reason to fight anymore, so they became friends and one time there. There's talking after to Crawford's demise. And Posey said to Clark you know. I always knew I would win because Gus. Greenlee never understood the baseball business, which is to say, you have to build your base slowly methodically..

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02:55 min | 5 months ago

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"Broke the color barrier in the nineteen forties. Major League Baseball was segregated now. Black baseball teams had been around since the eighteen eighties. But the most successful played primarily in exhibition games known as barnstorming audience is treated them more than oddity then professional sports team over the years many players players and owners tried to organize black leagues but they rarely lasted more than a season or two all that change one hundred years ago on February Thirteenth Nineteen Twenty Win Rube Rube Foster started the Negro National League over the next eleven years it grew from eight teams to more than twenty while it didn't survive the Great Depression it it opened the doors for other successful African American leagues including the longest lasting the Negro American league it operated from Nineteen thirty seven to about nineteen nineteen sixty one of that league's greatest promoters was a tall first baseman named John. Buck O'Neil twenty years ago. During a pikes peak library event. He can't remember how as a boy. The Negro Leagues changed the way. African Americans looked at baseball. We would always get the Tampa Tribune greats votes section. The kids would come to my heart before we'd go out to practice not spread it out in the backyard on the greatest and we would read about what happened to majorly describes how the the neighborhood kids within pretend to be outfielder Babe Ruth or Catcher Connie Mack or second baseman Miller. How can we go out to practice? We would immolate those Volpe's as a boy John O'Neill lived in Sarasota Florida. Many Major League Baseball teams hosted spring training nearby and he watched some of baseball's greatest stars ars in person. My uncle came to time out was a railroad man. He lived in New York City. He came and I was telling him about the Great Baseball player that I've ever seen the greatest baseball players will. Aw He say how do you know they had a great baseball player Newark. I'll tell you he said when I tell you what I'm coming down here and I'm going to just follow him. Come Ninety and take you in your data down to West Palm Beach. I want you to see some other ball players. I Walk song-chol go kept his word and later that season he took his nephew to West Palm Beach for on degrom game. I'll tell you what mainly baseball you you go to the ball game you might go get peanuts popcorn or something until ruled. Come up Jimmy box of one of the bills. Come up but then when I saw this ballclub Oh clock route post ahead eight guys on his ballclub. MCI Taylor head on his ballclub could steal one hundred bases. You could hit your twin. It thirty home runs Could hit you for three fifty four hundred. Yeah and actually you couldn't go out got to get nothing. You just have to stay there because they might show you some. You'll never seen before.

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03:50 min | 7 months ago

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"And the and the other his generation who didn't get the chance so he does play that sort of mentoring coaching role. He's really calmed down by now because remember in really beloved terms by players who Who played under him during that time and then in nineteen fifty four? His last year in the game he manages the team called the Indianapolis clowns which is essentially just a barnstorming team Henry era and has played for the clowns the year before. Unfortunately they don't have anybody that good on the nineteen fifty four teams but he does win one last championship. The clowns win the Negro American League Championship at the last week standing thing and So Charleston kind of gets to go out a winner and soon after the season ends he Fall down a flight of stairs and his home is diagnosed with cancer reese paralyzed from the waist. Down and dies very soon thereafter. Well at least he had sort of that that that luxury at the end there You wonder what happened. I mean he died relatively young right he was in his late. Fifty s fifty seven. Yeah definitely I mean he had he had twenty thirty more years in nature taking a different course all right well. So what have you taken out of the you mentioned at the at the outset that that you you kind. China had a sense of what Oscar Charleston Charleston was like. And what was going to be and you got a sense of something quite different by the time. This project was all said and done what you know. Here's the sort of the softball right. What is the sort of August because it took until nineteen seventy six for whatever reasons to kind of the Veterans Committee to to to bring him into the hall of fame right so what happens in those decades in between and and what is the legacy now that were arguably baseball and sports and culture is much more can we say woke about you? Know everything right. Yeah well he does. And the force he's sort of just falls back into obscurity after nineteen seventy six James that ranking leads to a blip of of interest interest but Not much you know. He's sort of have stayed obscure And for all sorts of reasons. I've mentioned Hopefully that will start to end now. Not just for him but for others especially his generation before in the Negro Leagues. His legacy In particular is Is clearly one of the greatest American athletes of all time. There's really no way to look at the evidence and not come to that conclusion and I do think think if it were better known There might be even more agreement with the claim I make that He may have the greatest all around complete resume. Resume of any figure in baseball history. When you take into account not only the fact that he was a maybe a top five top ten player all the time but he's also a great manager? Go to the greatest manager of Negro Leagues History by poll of ex players and was Pioneering Scout You know who broke the scouting color line and And that's a lot to put together into one. You Know Babe Ruth Babe Ruth on the field. He doesn't really have anything after that right Just in terms of his baseball resume So it's a very unique combination of achievements And not only that. He was an admirable admirable. Man That's that's the thing that surprised me. I find that. But he's a leader He was You really showed the toughness that it takes to make it under difficult conditions and I think that's just a great Great lesson you know. It's a great life to to to read about and get to know. Because of the toughness he displayed and the sort of steadfast does.

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05:35 min | 7 months ago

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"Little exploration each and every week if you can believe it into what used to be in professional sports. Thank acute tremendously for finding us and putting us in your ear buds. This week we know you got A quadrivalent amount of choices out there in podcast slammed into Despite all the odds and all the consternation We continue to put out a show each and every week on on what we like to FASCINATE an obsess about which is teams and leagues and the various stories. No longer with us for whatever reasons and we're GONNA continue our our our our journey into the Negro Leagues this week with our guest. Jeremy Beer and You know I know a number of you out there you know look at sort of old will baseball stuff is as not as exciting say is the travails of the Alliance of American football from six months ago or maybe the the XFL and a couple of months. Serb knock on wood as it gets ready to attempt to a life as well but We continue to be fascinated by stories regardless of how old they are Because because if they're a team or league or were were plural of such That are no longer with us. So that's all part of the Tableau of pro sports and This week Sir. Conversation is truly a standout one and one that I learned a tremendous amount about not only in our conversation but in this book The Germany Bureau has written. It's called Oscar Charleston the life and legend of baseball's greatest forgotten player. And you know for those even baseball scholars I think are lost upon them as The talent and the standout nature of this player known as Oscar Charleston arguably not even arguably perhaps the best player in Negro League history now a name though that that most people even historians baseball historians don't really know a lot about I think even you know even in the realm of of Negro League history people know Cool Papa Bell and and and certainly you know folks like sexual page. Those are names that even even the cursory sports fan you know just knows from from legend and all this other things but you get into it. as you'll hear our conversation with Jeremy Beer and in a few moments those in the know and arguably not As well publicized would would strongly suggest a guy like Oscar Charleston was the preeminent player centerfielder and a slugger extraordinaire and frankly In in the realm of this conversation in our little our little sojourn every week to Teams and leagues. No longer with us. A really good frankly excuse an example of just the very compelling and interesting and a somewhat zigzag nature feature of of what it was to be a player and manager and a team in the Negro Leagues Oscar Charleston. Besides being a standout player air and then ultimately a manager and a scout. And we'll get into some of that stuff I in our conversation in a few moments was on a ton of teams right teams like the Indianapolis Annapolis. ABC's a very well regarded and long standing a team in the Negro Leagues the Harrisburg giants for sure. And of course the Pittsburgh Crawford's efforts who in the nineteen thirties were you know Among especially that nineteen thirty five team regarded as arguably the best team ever in the in the Negro Leagues You know we're talking about teams like the Philadelphia Stars in the Saint Louis giants and the Chicago American giants. And and the Hildale Club. These are all a an in leagues. Not only the Negro National Leagues Two of them. The Negro American league the East West All Star game which was The the showcase for for African American ballplayer talent in Chicago for many years the eastern Colored League I mean there's all kinds of Variations in things in all all of these are for US check boxes of of clubs and leagues no longer with us that are absolutely and asleep fascinating and the history and life of this amazing ballplayer by the name of Oscar Charleston. That's our that's our conversation this week With Jeremy Germany beer and I will tell you not only. Is this conversation interesting and fascinating but the book Jeremy is written is is well worth The deep dive in and frankly a- as they say makes a great gift not only. Is it well researched. But it's just a IT'S A. It's a very interesting read. And if you're looking frankly for a quintessential example of what Negro League baseball was all about In the The personification of one of its best players You could do worse than to Get a copy of this book Oscar Charleston. The life and legend of baseball's greatest forgotten player player It is published by our friends at University of Nebraska Press. I highly recommended and I learned to a whole bunch and I think even to the cursory the interest of folks Just generally interested in baseball or just you know African American sports history. It is. It's a it's a fascinating book and well L. Worth pursuing and of course we have a link to it on our website and good seats still available dot com but I highly recommend it And.

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14:32 min | 7 months ago

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"The next couple of years. Well they must obviously have paid fairly taste salaries for a time because things I noticed in the fall this was the way that they was a nucleus of that team that was maintained in that time period there for example pepper Bassett catcher. was there for forty four hundred fifty to catch Herman Bell was there except for one year. Forty three to fifty Tommy Sampson forty two forty seven John Britton a third baseman eastbound. Forty four to forty nine that they kept these people and which would and lyman bostock senior Playing first base when World War Two starts of course he goes into military service like so many others. Did the boss stock was fortunately stationed at Fort. McClellan all in Alliston which is about an hour from burning him and there were many weekends when he played double header. 'cause he could get leave from the army and get a bus over to Birmingham and play double. It was the ability to have this nucleus of the team that stayed together during that that time. I'm for so long Jimmy Lee. New pitcher was there from nineteen forty three to fifty. I think that was keyed to to Birmingham. Success was being able to maintain a consistent Landa and of course that's like he's had to be paying pretty good money to keep them from it off into other teams. Have the war right. So you know obviously Birmingham had Two great seasons in the League and forty three and forty four winning the penance. That those years They went onto the Negro world series. Those years losing both times to the homestead grays how much of the war effort obviously sleep was a huge drain on organized baseball. But on the Negro League side was it as pronounced in terms of its siphoning of talent or was it more of a refuge in terms of the talent and baseball. I think it was. It was probably comparable to what was happening with white flesh. But I think that possibly some of the Negro League players older and therefore not quite as susceptible to the draft as light light lunch. With 'cause a lot of these guys have been around while and Birmingham has had number. I think eight or ten that actually served in World War Two but then they have these lucky situations like law Bostock who was available to play a good deal during the war. Yeah many people. Well my no lyman Bostock The junior I if a boo played for by the Chicago White Sox and a bunch of other other teams. We mentioned a couple. Couple of folks. Right As we sort of get into the forties and stuff obviously Satchel page and you mentioned a few others but there were three or four hall of fame players that at that that graced the diamonds of of Rickwood field in Birmingham Aside from Sach's page as well as some other players who I have never reached the hall. But we're standout players in notable any names that sort of stuck out in your mind both recognized or maybe unsung. You mentioned a few of the unsung ones. Well while Larry Lester who I consider the Preeminent Negro Leagues Historian ask a lot of US researchers to put together all star teams for the things that we were both with. And so when I started putting the the Birmingham team together together I had a real dilemma with Piper Day. This what to do with him and what I wound up doing on my I team was named him. Utility man extraordinaire all time. MVP because every time somebody else got hurt hyper moved. Lived over to that position and he was just an absolutely extraordinary baseball player and he was part of the glue. The hell does all these things together because when someone else was hurt he could go fill in at that position and it would do this. Oh forever how long it took took their he did not play one position physician Enough over those eight years that I felt comfortable when it came commend position on the All Star team so I just made him super utility math Another player If that Jimmy Lee Newbury very was outstanding picture that The Tommy Sampson on the second basement there for eight years and One one of those world series years They probably lost the series because he and two other players were severely injured in an automobile. The mobile record drop driver him and they were severely injured and absence did not cover. You really couldn't for more than a year after that. There's tremendous commander Second Baseman and I think they probably would have had a good shot at the world series that year for having lost those guys in that wreck Interesting and tragic. Yeah two other hall of Famers to Mule Suttles and the Great Willie Wells Also suttles more from the from the twenty s sort version of the team and and Willie Wells inducted ninety. Seven who played for a season in forty-one which is arguably the sort of lead up to some of their better years as has as a as. Yeah it was a year not really a factor like already Wilson and and some of the others that there during that period but but Yeah they had a lot. Had A lot of names though Clue Birmingham a university of outstanding players the world. Maybe they're only in Europe so and it's like sets played. was there for four years way. Back in the twenties but average person would probably connect you. There's being being in the forties or something you know just like amendment connection to give me a sense now so this is also now ver- really important time during the whole Negro League sort of Experience right because the parents were doing quite well especially in the latter part of the forties winning three pennants in the a span of what about seven years or so and winning in nineteen forty eight which turned out to be the last Negro American league a pennant when integration basically comes into Major League or to baseball generally Jackie Robinson killed when they grow leaves. I mean that that's That's a given and you can save if you if you look at Chicago to send the the Black newspaper wants. Jackie is much. How of coverage of the Negro American league and the other leaks just starts on the thing Within a short period of time to three years. They're no longer running box stores if they wanted so regained. Jackie played there and Detroit all you you lose this way institution there but then you gain opening the major leagues up to a world thus standards baseball players of the future. No doubt and certainly you know in hindsight but that doesn't mean that the Negro Leagues went away overnight. May Far from it right. They know they know they did. Not and that was interesting. Here's the I mentioned a couple of characters that were involved in Birmingham. Albin the In the fifties along about fifty seven or so somewhere along in there Flights took over the ownership of the black there orange and there was a lot of disgruntled. Obviously in the Negro African American community over the loss of ownership so so the white managed but that it taking a team hired a man named Reverend Dwight Gate mouth aboard the General Manager of the baseball team to have this this Like presence on the phone the Black Baron so to speak and This was an interesting character. He he was a radio disc jockey and preacher. He wrote around Star Trek Red Cadillac and had been a singer. India's sure earlier years and it had done a popular nightclubs singling supposedly had a conversion Own State one night in Chicago and Switch to Gospel Music at that point in his career at Inter right. The interesting story I found out about him was in nineteen forty. That was a horrible tragedy and that just Mississippi a place called the rhythm club burned down and two hundred ninety. Two African American party were killed that night in this horrible. Thar Gate Mile Moore was in the band walk. Barnes and his royal creoles was abandoned. Play most of them died in the fire also and more was supposedly one of the survivors. I WANNA three band members. That's that and then if he said the only reason I survived because I was outside in the bus with a girl the story of how he survived the fire but he was the team about half a year and I don't know it served this purpose purpose of keeping spirits of the black community up or not because he quit about halfway through the season said that it was taking too much time away from his preaching and he needed to get back to that but that was an interesting situation. The other one that I found fascinating fascinating was GONNA ain't billy Joel Moore. Who won the batting championship in nineteen fifty six and he hit three seven hundred twenty to win that they grow American League Batting Championship? This was his first season He had nobody had seen him before that the following year. He just not come back. There's no mention in India. The newspaper stories about what happened to him. I mean here's this guy. Hits three seventy three and and it's like he fell off the face of the earth. And what what I was finally able to determine was that he had been in nineteen forty eight when he was fifteen years old he had been sent. The Oklahoma state penitentiary the burglary charge while he was in prison. He became a standout sports batting into well over three and a half three hundreds and and to New York Yankees Scout. Joe McDermott and Tom Greenway. Who have discovered Mickey Mantle? Spot him and they are able to get state notable Oklahoma Give him a sixty day lead to play with the grand faults the in the north of leave for a salary of two hundred and fifty dollars a month. If he made they do with the club he was reminding paroled until the scheduled release date a couple years later and if not he goes back into pokes well he went up in Birmingham at nineteen fifty. Six has tremendously banishes again. And you know. I don't know what happened to they. Did was their recidivism. Did he wound up back in prison. Did he die and finally along Internet search revealed that he had been born in Clinton Oklahoma in nineteen thirty may the twenty eighth nineteen thirty and supposedly died in nineteen months go blank when he died. it was in Oklahoma in another the city but it turned out that the bitch were in the newspaper was actually for a lawyer who was born on the same date he was white lawyer. I was born on the same date in Texas and so well. They're not really joe more bad or still alive or the in two thousand and six sore still alive or whatever and nobody will ever know I guess but he was the batting champion in the big Bill Americans. I think the only year they played into leave their you know just found that it is fascinating this has got to be just tons of these kinds of stories. I saw described to me though the quality of play in the fifties then post I integration right. So it's going on right but it's not obviously you know most of the quote unquote best players. Now are trying to get their their their chops shops in the in organized baseball outside of the Negro Leagues. Yeah they are and You know there's obviously was whether it's ever going to be formally all the admit it or not. There was obviously quota system in those days on the Negro players that we're going to be taken into organized doll But the better ones Lynch was getting their shot and going into the to the white minor leagues and so the clubs and also the the financial support court took a black teams is is faltering badly by this time. Attendance is down They can watch games on television now and and so there. It's just wendling badly. He gets into a couple of years but Negro American League in the fifties able feel four teams a couple of those years which indicates really bad nothing at that point and Teams like the Chicago American. The giants go away. Pittsburgh quits done Memphis. Red sox eventually Clubs that had been you know story names and then they just aren't there anymore so yeah it was faltering very badly and your players. You're.

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"Mentioned it. You alluded to it. We will get into it in in this in the early years not to spoil the the story here but but Rickwood field is is an icon. It is a well preserved and it is it's part of Various National Registries of history. This is one of if not Aviv. I baseball stadiums. Out there in the country. I believe now well it was It was built an modeled on Forbes field in Pittsburgh its debut in nineteen ten or the next. You have hundred downtown. bursary the BALLPARK. It's still use today Miles college uses it several high smooth use it and They're just there other activities too but interesting used as a baseball park. Assailed is standing park in America. What baseball still be playing? And they were not though the during the twenties and thirties one and maybe maybe even in their Negro American league years which will get to in a moment. I do promise Were they sharing that stadium with other teams as well outside of Edgar League Baseball or was it basically. There's for the season in the field was owned by the Birmingham Barons. The White Team of the Southern Association they should but in in most of the southern cities in those years black teams play in ballparks. They at least for so their games and in fact Chris Fullerton Road Dissertation at a book on the Early Negro Leagues of the Black Bear. His name was just is book was every other Sunday which employed that when the white team was on the road live team got the ball park. And that's a little bit simplistic but it's Sorta expresses what boy operated you know. Well what was that relationship. I mean how. How good or or afraid was it? between between those two teams I mean was it cordial was it well. Coordinated was it. We'll give you what we have left over was it you know sharing of equals. was there any anything in your research that you're able to sern what the relationship was between those two teams because obviously that that's an important role role to play in terms of quality of dates and attendance and maintenance and all that kind of stuff. Feel well the you know the the the black thing is getting the leftovers on sched- you the best way it's going to be As far as scheduled dates were concerned and I think why standpoint but they really were concerned about. What's the color green? They're making money off having these lack clubs split into ballpark when the white team is on the road. And that was an important factor in fact I think it was about what they they're long about. Nineteen twenty seven. I forget the exact year old fan And I bring a group of white people who lived in the neighborhood around rick would feel went to the city council meeting and complained complained about the ball games because they felt women felt threatened for some reason or other and people were drinking and and these day they just objected to it and wanted the city to do something about them from playing that. Well obviously it just was is not expressed during the story but reading between the lines. That's a lot of money for the baseball team. And this is not fly. The season opened as noble in spite of that. That's why it's like money spoke louder than anything else at that point. How `bout and from your Your readings of of the box scores and the coverage of both of these teams right. This is was there any. I don't know perception of which baseball was actually better. It would seem to me as a as an armchair historian right and that's being charitable that the quality of play of some if not all of the Negro League Games was probably if not on par may be better frankly than that of of the minor league kind of version that was coming in through on the sort of white side of things was that obvious maybe or am I maybe reading too much into it or I guess Ah Quality of baseball would you say was better was no way to really tell I I would imagine it would be the Negro. I don't know if there's any way to really but it was interesting. I think the millions that you see white sports writers would Referred to as the you know in a game just already would say something to the fact that times that You'll see a really good brand baseball. After with these big role players that was a cordial respect victor ascertaining which better quality overall posssibility. Yeah I guess I guess. I'm just struggling to sort of see where the barons are were. What single a double? I forgot what w okay. Yeah I guess it depends on on the teams and I guess it depends on your read of history and whatnot but I you know I by many accounts I I think a lot of the Negro league players and historians Torian would would venture to say that the quality of play was At the very least on par with that if not on many occasions better than the double A. Organized Baseball kind of leak right a lot. Well yeah I think the other historians have come up with enough games between Oh big role leaks teams. White seems to show that there was a parody of certain level. Dare you know look. Why don't we talk about sort of this? I guess let's call the sort of second in and and sort of long longer phase and then ultimately the ending phase of of the black barons in particular and this is this Negro American league and which For them started in one thousand nine hundred forty they I guess. They made the jump from the Southern League back again up to but not now the not the League or National League which had gone away and come back in a different form but now this thing called the Negro American League maybe you can give it a little bit of background is to all of that scenario because I think it's confusing to the average Joe. Well the the the visual southern League's last year parts of the World War Two was nineteen thirty six and thirty seven. The black barons went down with with the Negro American league played. Thirty seven thirty eight and thirty nine. They had another ownership disaster and they had no team at all came back in nineteen forty An interesting thing be a couple of interesting things about the those thirty seven. Thirty eight seasons the manager was a guy named Walter. Andrew M Walker and this man does not show anywhere or in any baseball references of any kind except for these years in Birmingham these two years Nobody's ever Heard dubbing there's no explanation of who he is wise. They're the closest thing that I found was that he was possibly related to a numbers. racketeer named Froyo Walker in Birmingham at the same time that this man is manager for two years and then and he's gone and I just though other historians found anything about him who is where he came from or anything. It's just a really strange strange thing of a real innate and there's another one that shows up in the later years that we can talk about a minute but that was just one of the peculiarities of that period. The same thing though Birmingham one at one of its most outstanding players lawyers and outfield remain. They widely He had men to speed power with nickname. Tamil Mandy was also make weeknights speed To give you a quick look this in nineteen thirty six thirty seven thirty eight is batting averages. For or four zero three eight four forty to this guy was real and then when Birmingham folded in thirty nine didn't have changed. He went over to him to another team. The daego American League and He he had few years after that but he never reached that kind of level oval again but he has probably had the single the single best career with Birmingham over three periods of antibody overhead and he had a game in the nineteen thirty eight one of these walls. High Scoring Games at Birmingham eighteen but nine over Saint Louis widely blake hit for the cycle but he was perfect six six that day he had a home. Run or triple into doubles. I think is probably the single greatest initiating performance over by any black bear viewers just for them to Busch Bowl player Fascinating fascinating player. I bet forgotten periods are called with. Then we get into the forties and and we have a dynasties in. Yeah so we get to that that dynasty so I I stay at correct thirty seven thirty eight this was sort of their re emergence into another of the senior leagues. If you will the Negro American League what happened in thirty nine to the black barons that they went dark. If you will for that season you called collapsed where they whatever they keep back the next four yeah management ownership whatever it just whatever happened behind the scenes I didn't find much about it because you know. The white newspapers really work interested in management problems of Sunday. Grow business at that time so it was never really able to opinion thing but then As comes along and lighting forty and and the team is resurrected and of course he owns it for about twelve years years of they have this tremendous run and the boys so who is who. Is this Tom Hayes Guy. All I can really tell that he was yes. I guess from Memphis. He was sort of in the funeral. Business where are you think very successful businessman and Love Baseball Love Sports and UH made a lot of money. He had a private plane that he flew around in some and the later years of his ownership and he had working relationship and partnership with a separate steam who had founded off road drivers also although separate Stein. Doesn't show up bunch butch up out front in Birmingham favors and everything. But it's noted that he's part of the ownership in part of the management team with the black barons in those years and Tremendous tremendous run there in orders Never won the world series. Raise my goodness. They won two championships and competed the whole way. Before before we get into some of that this Zapper Zapper steam thing is is very interesting to me. was kind of an eyebrow raise for me obviously him being very A large part of the Harlem GLOBETROTTERS WE'VE had a couple love conversations around sort of his early years in challenging the basketball establishment not only with the trotters but this thing called the National Basketball League league precursor or a tributary if you will into today's modern day NBA. From what you can tell. What would this a white Jewish guy from? I think New York Chicago be interested in having a part ownership in a fledgling sometimes foundering frankly going from a minor league to a Major League Negro League baseball team In his sort of a sports empire. Guess well I just think there was money at that point but the topic of family comes in as has come in and he's a substantial businessman. He knows what he's doing and so this was. There's good tabbing bobbing there. Probably is what I'm thinking and Tremendous Route Working relationship obviously. There's accessible to that time period. You were they were they then part of of of if you will spending more money I mean what was it about the team around that time aside from this new ownership shipped reinvigorated. That made the black. That's that much more dominant dynastic team for the next couple of years. Well they must obviously have paid fairly taste salaries for a time because things I noticed in the fall this.

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"Over for the long haul would've been really as that competitive with the Negro National League change. I think that the level of talent much better and then they go national league although there are many good players in the style and many of them of course gravitated to the Negro National League Those teams in badly were looking at the south south and Quite interested in picking up some of these players all bring more money and grabbing them up when they could all right so so let. Let's put it in context context with Birmingham and the black parents in particular because essentially the twenties seems to be relatively checkered for them either. A couple of seasons in the southern League then a couple Blah cups of coffee in the National League back to the Southern League backup to the National League and then back to the southern league kind of through. I guess the Mid Thirties. So maybe before we get into their their ultimately to that sort of next level which is the next part of the story. Maybe you can kind of give a sense of sort of what this team was. All about DOC locally playing and obviously it's still was the center of of baseball attention. I guess in Birmingham regardless of which league they were in right. Yeah out. Yeah that's true the And that was that was a tremendous amount of support for in the city of Birmingham and When I joined the Negro National League midseason there the the white news pipe? I noted that Birmingham had moved to the quote Major League. Something something quote because the National League was considered that much better at that point so this was considered a big deal to Birmingham to get to do that into move up to that level and they did fairly well. The first year they played about that sucker half of the season they played about four hundred dollars which is not bad. Got It all well and they they had. They didn't in their their senior League cups of coffee. Right they did they did. They helped more than their own right. I mean Ella. For example nineteen twenty seven. They lost you know in the league playoffs to the ultimate The eventual champion. The Chicago American giants strangely your oddly or maybe not to. Oddly a very I think attached to a one. Rube Foster. I digress but still I mean they were certainly competitive. I guess when they had their chances playing I league now I think to some extent they were out. They were but When when I got into this One of the things that as I've said earlier the forty you same to be all anything that people really know anything about the black barons and Andy beyond understandable Willie mays and type Davis You have to outstanding figures in in black baseball right there And so and and the world series with the homestead grays and those kinds of things. But I got really fascinated in researching the twenties thirties. There was some tremendous ball players back. Then that nobody really knows anything about and I got a AH digressing a bit here on this too. I got really really interested in trying to find pictures of a couple of these guys. One was the catcher knight born Dexter Williams uh-huh who had started in the Industrial League that he lived the Blackburn. Should he played a couple of other things a while but he was always hanging around Birmingham. Camping was on and off the team many times and and later in life ran. A cafe in Birmingham really wanted to picture of him very much because because they don't they don't think I've ever seen was a fuzzy one. That was perhaps taking over the team photograph and he was just almost unrecognizable. The other player Woosh Buford Kichi Meredith. And I don't know if he came from if he came out of the Carolina coast where the people were or if he just if perhaps that was the way he taught that he picked up the nickname but at any rate he is he played with the black bear. And perhaps the longest of anybody he was with the team from Nineteen Twenty to nineteen twenty nine if he left for nineteen thirty played another stadium and came back in thirty one he would have been playing again in thirty to accept that he was killed skill in a mining accident early. And and I think thirty two because most of these guys that you know day job so to speak or off season. The jobs and Meredith was electrocuted and a minor league accident and left the wife and three kids and The it was really interesting to be when I would look through city directories To try to get some check names. The spelling of names and things like that meredith was the only person who ever showed up as doll player. In the city directory. Everybody else was day labor or minor or something like that and and that says something about the standing. He had in the Community of continuing the store though the photographs. I wanted a picture of him. Very Harry Byrd Bucks and They had never seen one. So I got on a computer one night. And I'M FIDDLING WITH ANCESTRY DOT com and just ruined and Google searches this other and I came across almost the accident and a bit ury although if if out of the nothing to mid West for a Beaufort James Meredith third in my God. Could this possibly brief and as it turned out it was a descendant of us His sons that were children when he died. And I've around up contacting man. Thank their math in Clarksville Tennessee. who was the grandson? Just total luck and we talked on the phone that night and he got a picture of Meredith in uniform. And I'm proud of having that in the book is up. They just about anything anything else. I got in there because there had ever better pick Japan published before demolish. and that's fantastic. Because this is this is part of the sort of you know the the forgotten history I mean especially with teams that that don't exist anymore or don't have any sort of I guess you could say direct routes to things that still are around or alive today and in the major leagues or whatever right and that's gotta be hugely satisfying especially. I guess when you're used to become so engrossed and invested I guess and in the process right. I mean you're a journalist by trade. You're already afflicted with that with that disease. I I thought that was so satisfying to for that family to get that recognition of grandfather who that had been and lost because he died at such a young age and and and you know his children children literally when he died so that was that was very satisfying thing to be. They've to give his family. That connection there. Yeah I mean. I think they're clearly. There are players that that that people do remember but who usually really you know went onto other things or other platforms right so you know around that. Time of course was the Great Satchel page right which you know everybody you know leave even and has a passing understanding of baseball right. Certainly knows the name Satchel page and how you know ultimately great and long lived his career and was right but these actually those was early. Those one thousand nine hundred years late mid mid to late nineteen twenty S. That was actually I think his second or maybe third. Maybe I guess team that he played on was the Birmingham. Blackberry like Matt's no it was just suck. It was the second he had he had started in twenty six with the Chattanooga team and It was interesting to me the And any any with the Birmingham for the next four years after that and it was interesting. Research in those early years on on Satchel because You quickly found that contrary to popular stores no sexual pitching hitter every game. You Go. which is sort of less of? Yeah well your view around. He may debate that. But you know right right. Well then found the very first game. He pitched in Birmingham. Okay have found a box score of it in nineteen twenty six and yeah or not mind immediately doesn't come back to me as to how the game came out He had a creditable performance but it was not a shut out it was not a no get her and but dreadful performance and And I had seen stuff that actually written about him. Shutting up the Black Barons in Birmingham first time he was in the city and this was all a lot of who it except it wasn't true but he had four very good years with Birmingham Twenty seven twenty eight twenty nine thirty and it is record was decent It was over five hundred He was he was obviously an enormous talent and and it was recognized in the newspaper accounts of these Games. That most of these accounts are white newspapers. And they're recognizing the talent that this guy has and he's becoming and attraction early on I guess it's probably the nickname part with and then just long lanky figure in your fist and he begins to come up with these there quotable remark so you don't see them coming up. Seductive the newspapers this later on when you both riders give you know but it was fun researching him well besides him right. Obviously that out out outside personality -ality certainly D- certainly didn't hurt. He certainly played to. I guess you know the the white audiences entertainment kind of a spectacle of of his of his abilities abilities but You know I I sort of want to get more into the heart of the matter and and correct me if you think. I'm wrong here but you mentioned earlier. How how a lot of information was either wrong or incorrect or frankly just not fully fleshed out or outright missing when it came to a lot of these is players and and maybe even some of the the Games play and and whatnot and and the largely white press right okay? They notice a Satchel page. But how how much of the shall we say. Segregated sort of viewpoint of life contributed to perhaps these large judge and Outside gaps I guess of knowledge and door coverage of what was going on like guarantor lead Negro Leagues. Well do you know the the coverage was so inconsistent. The Department Ham Newspapers Birmingham News in particular which workforce or a number of years. Actually carried box walks for the games and the twenties which was which was wonderful. They identify that indicated. I think is the popularity of baseball. Is that did anything something else at that time. I think air box scores onto Blackburn's games and they reported all of them and they usually every every game eh a small right up of some kind with the box score on it but Th there was just so many interesting players in town period One of those fascinating wants to was a guy name name forrest we maddox and wing came from the fact that he only had one one arm he was ahead of peat growth in that sort of thing and wing at was missing his left arm just above the elbow he would catch a fly by play. Pitched Andy played outfield. He would catch a ball in the outfield with the glove and the right hand and and then he flips the ball up and air jeff since glove grabs the ball as it comes back down and fires in and there with more there's more than one report him nailing some run or play because this guy figures this guy's not going to be able to throw him out you know he's fascinating figure to me. He died at like twenty nine years old tuberculosis players. Like him I mean you mentioned the only a very small handful if not just maybe one or two kind of being effectively known professionally as a profession as quote unquote ballplayer. What was is the sort of average players life it does sound like it was sort of a sort of a day night kind of existence where the day job you know? Pay The bills and then the night quote unquote or weekend job was was playing ball. I'm just curious as to and I guess you know even in Organized Organiz Quote Unquote Baseball. You know the money was not necessarily gigantic or or spread out. I guess across all attack but I got to imagine it was even less so in the Negro Leagues so maybe a little bit of a sense of sort of the. I Dunno average life experience of the average baseball player in in in the Negro Alexandra. The black barons in particular from what you could tell but you know. I think that I don't think there was other been obvious disparity in in Bunny There was that much difference in lifestyle for the white or the black players Most of these guys had to have all jobs in the offseason you know. They weren't heartbreaking. The kind of money ball players makes a day for left professional level. They couldn't live a whole year on what they may play baseball for five months or Russian so most of them had had other jobs in the off-season and but obviously white guys are going to make more money than black guys in in those days. So yeah I think it was tougher on the black players then it was on the players. How would the sort of the game experience in particular the stands and the attendance and that kind of stuff? If we're able to discern sort of how relatively popular the black barons were And I'm talking really more before they got into the Negro American league. We'll get to you in a minute but I'm curious sort of how the how the gates were you know. I was the revenues. And how is the club run you know. Was it quite the thing or was it. Sparsely attended or somewhere between that. But I think in the in the twenty S. I think it did very well when you got into the thirty s there. Your attendance wasn't that good..

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"Our little nest of intrigue. We'd like to call it good and seats still available. It's curious journey each and every week into what used to be in professional sports. We thank you for coming along finding us in podcast land downloading US putting us your ear buds. Whatever you're doing to ingest this week's episode we appreciate and hopefully we will reward you today especially you fans of Old Time Baseball in particular. The Negro Leagues the endlessly fascinating a slice big fat slice of baseball history as we. We liked to do on a regular occasion as we talk this week with our guest. Bill plot Down in Alabama ways we talk about perhaps one of the Ah Greatest juggernauts. I guess that ever was in the Negro Leagues Plural. We'll get into that. The Birmingham black parents and Birmingham Alabama a A fascinating fascinating Sports town on a number of different levels especially as it relates to this show. And we'll get into that in a couple of other episodes as people. Well known certainly Birmingham. Alabama has been one of those chronic cities that have been hosts to Numerous professional football leagues over over the years including the yeah the late AF of America. Football which we've talked about a couple of previous episodes but we're not talking about football this week. We're talking about baseball and I think it's Lost Austin a lot of people especially baseball historians or just fans of of baseball generally about how rich the history is of the sport of baseball in Birmingham and and as you heard that little anecdote at the beginning of the show from. Let's see the Nexstar station or stations in the four states area Joplin Missouri. Being sort of the center of that. I'm not quite sure if that was Next Stars ABC Affiliate Station K.. O. D. E. or if that was their NBC affiliate Across town which goes a by a KS N were a particular. FC Jargon K.. An excuse me K.. SF N ATV. There you go I you know I. I've I've covered all my bases no pun but that little report that you heard there was courtesy of those that station or stations and it It essentially gets into a big part of this Birmingham Black Barons Story. And that's the story of of Rickwood field which is the the The longest continuously operated and running baseball stadium in the United States. Yes in the United States Birmingham Alabama hard to believe. I I think if you think you know all about baseball but it's absolutely true and we're going to get into not only the legacy in the history of that field with our guest bill plot this week but also frankly these fascinating tale of this team. Notice the Black Berenson and while there were many legendary teams in in that of the Negro Leagues over the over the decades In the early part of the night Excuse me the twentieth century the Birmingham Black Barons were not only a good on a regular basis but lived on Almost an indefatigable manner As the league's themselves came and went so the Negro Southern League which was a minor league and then the first Negro nationally but then these Negro Leagues kind of solidified and even became a national and top tier in the in the Negro Baseball Oh structure Birmingham was was a constant presence and the black barons in particular. Were absolutely a part of that. And we'RE GONNA get into all of that sort the history of the baseball legacy a generally as well as within the Negro Leagues that That tie their Their history and their stories To these Birmingham I am black barons of various the Negro Southern League the Negro American League the Negro National League you name it. They seem to be in just about every major and and Minor Negro League that was and and we're getting into that story of baseball a league style in the city of Birmingham via the black barons coming up in just a moment or two but before we get there we want to say hello to our new pals at dollarshaveclub in. Actually they're not new palest- not for me because because I've been using dollar shave club for Jesus two years now and what a happy circumstance it was when they reached out to say. Hey we'd like to advertise on your little show their tim and we appreciate them doing so. So we love the fact that people who we already uses Products and services reach out of one a sponsor the show. So that's awesome and you know I I so I can you know with authorities say that The quality of dollarshaveclub products is Is is amazing awesome and they spent years developing in crafting and refunding just about everything. 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"negro american league" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"There's a wonderful book out that I hope everybody will check out. It's called few and chosen defining negro leagues greatness and it's written by Monte Irvin, along with Phil peppy and Phil joins us now fill is no stranger, of course, to writing outstanding books. He's the author of more than forty sports books. He was the AKIs beat writer for the new York Daily News for fourteen seasons, and this is the latest book in the ongoing series of view and chosen titles. First of all, I think they'll, you should tell everybody who Monte Irvin was because there's not a lot of people, especially if they're young that will remember that name. Was a great player for the New York Giants. He was one of the big players in the nineteen fifty one season when the giants wiped out Thursday and a half game deficit, and won the pennant on Bobby Thomson's home run turns out that money urban just the foot Thompson hit the home run, money, urban was that bad in popped up, and he's had to live that down. It was like, but take nothing away from him. He was a great player. He's in the hall of fame primarily for his work in the negro leagues. He played for the Newark eagles, but he was an outstanding player. And unfortunately, got to the big leagues at an advanced as us about twenty seven twenty eight was terrific, terrific play, that he was a big run producer for the giants in nineteen fifty one. In fact, there was a time when branch Rickey wanted to sign him. And there was some talk that he was going to be the, the trailblazer. He was going to be the one to break the color barrier in major league baseball. But money had. Just come out of the service and didn't feel he was ready to play at his peak and the Klein, the opportunity to sign with the Brooklyn Dodgers. Otherwise history might have been changed. Monte wanted to do with this book, well, you know, the Frewin chosen series began. Oh, about seven eight years ago when a triumph books in Chicago, asked me to do a Yankee book and I had really run out of ideas. And what can I do about the Yankees that hadn't already been done? So I suggested that I had always had this thought that it would be an interesting concept to have a player from team select the time his choice of the all time team for the team. But which he played. They thought it was a good idea. So we did Whitey Ford selecting his all-time Yankees team. It was well received we went on from them, and we did the Saint Louis cardinals with Tim macabre, the Boston Red Sox with Johnny pesky. The Chicago Cubs with Ron Santo the dodgers Brooklyn in Los Angeles with Duke Snider, then they wanted to do another one, and we thought we'd do the giants and we talked about, and we eventually wanted to doing the giants with Bobby Thomson. I had suggested Monte Irvin would be the right guy to pick the all time giants team and an editor at triumph books that we have an idea, why don't you get money into pick the all time negro league team, and it was such a fascinating thought idea for me because I had studied a little bit about the negro leagues. But not that much, and certainly money who played the and new all those great players was the perfect guy to do it. I'm so glad I did because it was an eye opener for me. And also from Elissa history, lesson standpoint, tell everybody about the negro leagues because they began in the late eighteen hundreds continued to the nineteen sixties and there were as many as eight separate leagues at one time weren't there. Oh, yeah. That were I didn't really get into much about the history of the league as much as I did with the players, we concentrated on that period of time when they had the when it was a negro National League the negro American League. So we are focused was pretty much from around. Mid nineteen twenties until the, the leagues disbanded and around in, in the sixties..

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"negro american league" Discussed on View From the Gutters Comic Book Club

View From the Gutters Comic Book Club

10:29 min | 1 year ago

"negro american league" Discussed on View From the Gutters Comic Book Club

"It's duty garland story to a somewhat greater extent. As my father is fond of saying famed kills. Yes. It absolutely does. And. Especially women. So moving on with. Yeah. We've gotten way down there. So on August, tenth CIA director. John McCain, see me, John mccone mccone provided his first memorandum to president Kennedy describing an increase of Soviet shipments to Cuba and his speculation that the Soviet Union was placing offensive missiles in the Caribbean island nation would give three more warnings that month so Cuban missile crisis starting to to heat up a little bit of the first indication of like, okay, there's something going on here. We don't exactly know what. But if it is what we think it is bad. They're gonna keep ringing. Those bells sounding alarms. Increasingly August sixteenth. Beatles drummer Pete best was fired and replaced by Ringo Starr. Funny note there there's actually an album, you can buy called best of the Beatles. Which is not a Beatles. Greatest hits compilation. It's just an album of. Just beat her best now. Ours is like other project something interesting bring those replaced so on August eighteenth. And I'm just going to quote from Wikipedia on this because of the lengthy denied the right to an abortion in her home state of Zona and anywhere else in the United States, Sherry Finkel, but think Bine Sherry Finkbeiner received the procedure in stock home. Mrs Finkbeiner, host of children's TV show in Phoenix had been seeking to terminate her presidency pregnancy since late July after learning that a medicine she had taken was Filipa mind, which was found to cause veer birth defects and her search for legal abortion began the first nationwide debate in the US over the pro-life, and pro choice movements. So anybody who doesn't know about the litter Meyde there were there was an entire generation of so-called thalidomide babies were basically born without arms or legs. Like, literally, it was just like a shoulder and then a hand because of this drug, and it was one of the first big like major drug scares that lead to increased testing and like a much longer and more involved process to test new medicines and new medical procedures because bef- before this. It was kind of the wild west you could pretty much do whatever. Yeah. And there was there was a very long process of establishing protocols for testing medicine, and how we go about doing that and getting informed consent from people who are having these drugs tested on them where they know what's happening to them because you had all kinds of things like that. Tuskegee medical experiments where they were intentionally not treating black airman who had been infected with syphilis as a control to see how the disease would progress, and they were telling them that they were receiving treatment, and they weren't. And so that was a whole big deal in and of itself, and then you have this. This added component of the first beginnings of the abortion debate that would ultimately culminate a decade later with Roe v. Wade, and which is something that is continued to be debated over the many decades since then up to an including today right now, whereas of the date that we recording this they are still arguing over the nomination of Brett Cavanaugh to the supreme court in no small part because the conservative movement in the United States wants to overturn Roe v. Wade, and they think that he is the man to do it. And so yeah, this is yet. Again, the beginning of something that we will continue to see echoing through the decades up to and including today the little my by the way was marketed as a mild sleeping pill for women that was safe to take if you were pregnant, and there was the the idea of like, oh, yeah. Women shouldn't handle pills, or you know, take certain medicines. When pregnant was just like, knotty Beth thing. I I feel like if anybody came up to me and ever said women shouldn't unless like the following word was like, you know, douse themselves in kerosene or like drive without a seatbelt. Those are punching words I mean, everything is God forbid a woman have a fucking control over her own body. Right. Yep. And it's the same as, but you know. I think the main the main point there is that whether it's legal or not people are going to find ways to get there. It's going to a country where they can get it done or whether it means going into a back alley somewhere. It's gonna happen. Well, and you know, one of the biggest networks for women to get abortions was churches. Yeah. It was. It was a network of churches that sent women to save places and could actually have clout with people doing them. They would send them with chaperones. So that they wouldn't be assaulted or and the actually have an actual procedure. It's really insane. When you go back and look to this like look into this partner history. And it's insane. To me that we live in twenty eighteen and it's still a debate. We're having or just the fact that this is something that hangs by like a needle thread. Yeah. Could chain. Like this could change at any moment because a court decided to rule one way or another that we have no firm like broad line protection for women and women's health, which is why we just need to burn everything down most things down. Okay. Most things down. And so final thing for the month of August nineteen sixty two on August twenty sixth the last major event of the negro American League was played as the east west all star game. This is the final season of the N A L during which there were only four teams that I did not know. Yeah. I knew about the negro leagues. But yeah, I mean Jackie Robinson famously couldn't play in major leagues for awhile. I didn't read in depth about him. But this was a thing. And he wasn't the only one that came out of the negro leagues there were there was a ton of talent came out argue somehow suggesting that when you discriminate against a group of people based on something ridiculous, like skin tone and segregating them in their own league. They'll have a bunch of all star players who are better than people who are not in that league. Well, no, I'm what I'm saying. Is that people of all races and nationalities deserve to be treated like garbage by major league sports? I can go with that. So let's let's talk about marvel. Okay. Let's talk about beater Mun. Stuck about a Spiderman about the spider, man, if his fighter the spider, man. So here's the thing about Spiderman. Martin Goodman, the publisher of marvel comics was vehemently against spider man didn't wanna do it. He didn't think the teenagers should be superheroes. Teenagers are sidekicks. Full stop. Yeah. You got your key Barnes, you've got Toro the human torch. Boy, you've got your, Robin. The boy wonder speedy green arrow sidekick kid flash. Like teenagers are sidekicks period. And he thought that people hated spiders, he didn't want it to be thing. But Stanley stuck to his gun. He saw a huge surge in teenagers being interested in comic books, and he wide to create a character that he thought teenagers would identify with. And so he lobbied and he lobbied for this charac. Ter- who was very loosely. Very loosely inspired by a crimefighter from the pulp magazine era called the spider who had nothing to do with spiders his name, though. It was cool. And so eventually he convinced Goodman to allow him to do the Spiderman story in amazing fantasy number fifteen which was an anthology. But it was it. So it was an anthology book. It had started out as amazing adventures. Then it became amazing adult fantasy and then it became just amazing fantasy. And then they cancelled it like by the time, they decided to do the Spiderman sorry the already knew issue. Fifteen was going to be the last one. It was done. It was a dead series. It was cancelled. And that was the only way that Stanley could convince Martin Goodman to let him do this idea. Right. So he did his usual thing. Which is he went to Lee went to Kirby. To work on this character. In Kirby to- told Lee about his own character concept that he had come up with in the nineteen fifties which hit alternatively either called the silver spider or Spiderman in which quote, an orphaned. Boy finds a magic ring that gives him superpowers. Apparently, they didn't get very far with the concept, except that there was a splash page drawn where Kirby had the guy. Leaping at you with a web gun. And just generally speaking Lee was really not happy with the direction that Kirby was taking the character. He thought it was way to her roic. And he wanted something a little bit more nuanced.

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The importance of the predominantly black Mamie Johnson team at the Little League World Series

KRLD News, Weather and Traffic

03:07 min | 2 years ago

The importance of the predominantly black Mamie Johnson team at the Little League World Series

"The Friday. Morning Atlanta's, seventy two degrees in college park I'm Lucia here's here's. What's happening This. Is probably going to be the most pro black president that we've. Had in our lifetime that's a black Ohio pastor who was, an early, supporter of president Donald Trump's campaign speaking during a White House gathering faith leaders. Pastor, Daryll Scott thinks President Trump will be. The most pro black president in his lifetime Scott compare, Trump to his predecessor Barack Obama this. President actually wants to prove something to our. Community our faith based community and the community. The last president didn't feel like he had he felt like even have we. Gotta pass the, roundtable with the president was focused on efforts to reform the. Prison system during Trump's campaign he accused Democrats of doing too little to help urban communities often. As an often asked rather African Americans what they had to lose by voting for him the White House. Has been focusing its criminal Justice reform efforts on improving, reentry rehabilitation and workforce training programs instead. Of sentencing, reform with many advocates Argue which many advocates argue would make a. Bigger difference in other news the statue of liberty climber is due in federal court in Manhattan. Today to face charges Patricia Okumu scaled lady liberty on July four. To denounce is and what she consider President Trump's anti immigration, policies including, detention centers and the forced separation of families are protests calls a three hour. Police, standoff in the evacuation of liberty island. Her supporters are circulating an online petition calling on prosecutors, to drop the charges against her which. Include trespassing disorderly conduct and interference with a. Government agency sports now little leaguers from Washington. DC we'll make history this weekend the Mamie Johnson little leaguers from southeast DC. Will be the, first predominantly predominantly black team ever to represent the nation's capital. At the little league mid Atlantic regionals when the team took the DC championship last month late. Last month it was the first time in more than thirty years that a team from north west Washington's. Wealthy neighborhoods did not win the title The Mamie Johnson team is named for, the first woman, to pitch in the negro leagues the twelve member ball club that was founded only four years ago has eleven. Players who are black and one who, is white a multi vehicle crash has shut down, multiple northbound lanes, on, the downtown connector just before I twenty we'll have, a full traffic report, for. You just ahead a look. At the weather now flash flood watch is posted until eight this morning for many parts of northern Georgia expect a thirty percent chance of showers and thunderstorms we'll see cloudy skies today with a high near eighty three right now, seventy one degrees in east point for news and talk thirteen eighty w. a. okay I'm libra Harris now here's a look at traffic We're traveling down a connector headed north. Abernathy had to hold all the travel lanes getting the vehicles out of the travel portion of the roadway fell soon you'll be moving again. But Dili's begin in back before the seventy five eighty five the path Abernathy again all. Lanes temporarily held that will get you back in business and all the road again I'm definitely stop whereas on the dock thirteen. Eighty w. a. l. k..

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Trump to Go Away G-7 Premature, missing Ecological talks ~ Independent Recorder

24 Hour News

00:35 sec | 2 years ago

Trump to Go Away G-7 Premature, missing Ecological talks ~ Independent Recorder

"For information in the murder of a twenty year old man whose body was pulled from pontiac lake divers recovering the body of amelia valdez from osmond lake thursday evening shortly after he had been reported missing president trump wraps up his visit at the g seven summit in quebec some tough talk on trade speaking to reporters before departing for his singapore meeting with north korean leader kim jong own the president said that the meeting had been very successful we'll have more from cbs at two thirty one detroit tigers negro leagues weekend celebration it all continues this weekend.

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Peter King on decision to leave MMQB; NFL draft fallout

The Paul W. Smith Show

02:12 min | 2 years ago

Peter King on decision to leave MMQB; NFL draft fallout

"Working on scattered outages as well from last week's windstorm news time seven thirty three here's steve courtney sports all rich and not a very good performance by the tigers in kansas city yesterday they wrap up the fourgame series as a matter of fact that skipper ron gardenhire referred to it as ridiculous anyway the royals get a four two win kansas city wins a series for the first time in eleven tries this season matthew boyd fourrun six hits in seven innings of work tigers in texas to kick off the first of three eight oh five tonight michael fulmer on the hill for the tigers he's wanting to two point eight zero the era nba postseason the warriors now with a stranglehold on their series with the pelicans golden state gets a one eighteen ninety two win yesterday golden state up three one there the rockets ditto they beat the utah jazz one hundred eighty seven in utah houston up there now three games to one chris paul by the way twenty seven points sanli cup playoffs the lightning advance again they beat the bruins three one they will face the capitals or penguins caps up in that series three to western conference had the golden knights of vegas shutting out the sharks three nothing marc andre fleury twenty eight saves four shutout of the postseason vegas advances at a conference final as an expansion team no less face either winnipeg or nashville the jets lead that series three games to two and justifies victory in saturday's kentucky derby was worth one point four three two million to the horse's owners and nearly as much to one texas woman who picked five straight winners in races eight through twelve at churchill downs the woman from austin texas one one point two million dollars whether eighteen dollar pick five bet steve courtney wjr sports traffic and weather first on the fives with dc straight ahead this michigan opera theatre presents the the summer came this story of negro leagues baseball legend josh gibson considered one of the greatest baseball players of all time his historic journey is told of talent heartbreak and overcoming prejudice and discrimination featuring the michigan opera theatre orchestra and chorus may twelfth through the twentieth at the detroit opera house tickets and information at michigan opera dot org a possible by general motors.

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"negro american league" Discussed on KMOX News Radio 1120

KMOX News Radio 1120

03:12 min | 3 years ago

"negro american league" Discussed on KMOX News Radio 1120

"Listen to this story we wanna talk a little bit about a life of buck o'neill he was the first basement and manager in the negro american league mostly with the kansas city monarchs after his playing days he worked as a scout and became the first afric american coach in major league baseball a real groundbreaker he had a career batting average in the negro league two a day a couple years rebounded 350 that pretty crazy he took a little stint off to do a little thing called fighting the war world war two two years the us navy comes back manages the mont monarchs in the negro league but as the negro league declines the chicago cubs give the man a shot so so branch written relearn was a groundbreaker hiring jackie robinson over at the dodgers back when they were in new york and we were going to learn today that what was your cargo gut cubs gave buck o'neill the front office and but did some pretty extraordinary things and i think chicago friends would agree that the most extraordinary thing needed was sign mr cubs himself the greater need banks so we wanna do today's bring you buck in his own words his water man and want a life and so we wanted to start well in the beginning here's buck talking about his birthplace and his family are born on a limb fission whose caravale florida my father was a sawmill and he built a home he built for home our grandmother bill all right the in caravale law them this is where i was born must system of bone ben who wished to use the woman me my brother five years younger than me and that in sarasota care bill florida him we didn't stay there very long because we move the the south florida must on booming in my grandmother was agreed my grandmother with the with this year tours resort then the guy go lam of fraud broader mahmud agree cook so worked so the mood of care bill move to sarasota as where the boom were modest on cook and paul john rangeland as the shakers the strikers people she cooper john ring in my day said if you good i'm a put your restaurant so he built a restaurant hall for them bob barr momma and the cold at llewellyn that my mother ming was luella so rush you're black rifkind in sarasota florida so there.

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"negro american league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

Good Seats Still Available

01:39 min | 3 years ago

"negro american league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

"Well into the 40s into the 50s uh the negro american league hangs on a for a while but one by one the team's fade the monarchs kind of really kind of fade gradually away other bought by a guy named raspberry uh grand rapids michigan uh they can't make payroll uh guys just kind of leave the team and so it's hard to pinpoint exactly when but by the early sixties of the monarch's or or no more slow this is also part of a it's against a backdrop of the uh steady integration of the major leagues finally oil shifts area so in essence the the the distance articulate a monarch and other the there in kansas city and who comes into kansas city that let xrayed philadelphia flags or sold become the kansas city affleck's and who's the owner uh well eventually charlie filming right so miller and a for the monarchs they have never owned their own ballpark throughout all the years of their existence they half the rent uh the white minorleague ballpark by the by the 40s it's a new york yankee uh minorleague team the kansas city boost uh and so there i found in time beards records uh they're they're charging the monarchs you know for cleaning the bathrooms and for all sorts of stuff and it just uh just squeezing uh squeezing them uh to the point that they're that they're not no longer financially liable and you know i i have in the book a picture of uh.

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"negro american league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

Good Seats Still Available

01:36 min | 3 years ago

"negro american league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

"I'm really curious though is is to how would what's in wilkinson's head when he decides that he wants to go back into a professional circuit again how instrumental was key in the formation of the america of the negro american league or was he just a willing participant uh to an organization started were were contrived by others uh one thing through card to in part because all his records are gone uh and and also because he was a really behind the scenes guy um he didn't like to be out front in anything in for example the monarch when when has big opening day parade for the monarchs he never road and you never road in the car he produce a block um business manager quincy gilmore uh kind of out front uh and was was behind the scenes and in the formation of the first international legal though he obviously played a very central role it's kind of really hard to to document that and the records the same thing you grow american league i think uh he certainly uh without him i doubt it would have gotten started but it's hard exactly what did he jackley do other than lend his uh by this point by 1937 his you know three decade ford three decade uh a history of success and baseball promotion un's whose name me lenses credibility but he's not you know he's not out their friend he's not hold on the news conferences he's not he's not to being interviewed on espn um i if there were such a thing at the time.

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"negro american league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

Good Seats Still Available

01:44 min | 3 years ago

"negro american league" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

"Invested everything you on the trick to financial risk of his wife at a antiques story took everything out of that uh put everything all his money probably around fifty thousand dollars it's time which is pretty significant some uh to get this uh to get the uh uh night night baseball going 1930 the response from the most in the major leagues is uh the you know this is a start it will know he never work nobody wants to see baseball at night uh but five years later the major leagues of course our our our our our plane playing i baseball so innovator again uh entrepreneur risktaker uh but uh pretty much say black baseball for sure during the during the depression so through through the depression he keeps the key keeps via um monarchs out of out of uh any league says it's not because i don't want to be part of early it's just that it's not financially viable uh so 1937 he joins shields organize the negro american league which was very successful continued through the end of the 1950s uh with teams like the birmingham blackburn's uh the gave a start to a uh a guy named willie mays again the chicago american giants the monarchs memphis red sox and then a controversial team you probably heard the first they're they've were first known as the ethiopian clowns and then they became the indianapolis clowns your and they they were known for uh.

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"negro american league" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

01:38 min | 3 years ago

"negro american league" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"And the first white owner as you said earlier yeah that's lease a white owner of the whole you know this is the deal but what use most known for is tom 'spect he had a among his players great buck o'neill who are most everyone knows showed that he he knew to people who were without prejudice number prejudice owner body one dead in other words jail whoa concern i listened to many interviews with one our players recorded in the seventies and eighties and with a man they said he was a great great person and he makes a real contributions for just one example in nineteen thirty introduced the portable lighting system to baseball the first to do it successfully collier's before the major league introduced night baseball but in nineteen forty four jackie robinson was just about be discharged from the army he didn't have a job you're looking for a job and he ran into one of the monarchs players of an army camp and said oh the march looking for players wanted to contact them you did you heard from jail wilkinson cernan's partner convert they often pay to four hundred dollars a month they had signed jackie to the kansas city monarchs jackie would have been able to show showcase who's baseball talent brain tricky were so a scouting players in the negro national league an negro american league where the monarchs played a that's where he was looking for a that african american who could do he could could could reach the color barrier.

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