17 Burst results for "Ned stark"
"ned stark" Discussed on Bald Move TV
"If you'd like to get in on the final sure, noble mailbag, which will be next week when we wrap the series up, first up trae be last time we saw Jamie Seve's, I size, he was taking a dagger to face from the king slayer himself flash forward, a few years later and jump over to our universe circa, one thousand nine hundred six, and we are ride or die homey. They can a metric ton of radiation to face at the behest to Soviet pen, pushers RIP jewelry. Castle slash sit niqab. So this is the guy who got his, he had was forced to look up on the blazing reactor. That's jewelry castle is one of Ned Stark's Bannerman in the first season of game of thrones entirely forgettable. With, with a mustache and not long hair. He not wearing. Other he, he could have had his start garb on. Fucking Nonni was it looked out of place in a little reactor, but so thank? Yeah. It's like it's amazing how many fucking Gema thrones. Like you said, the Tarkhanov guy was Dagmar cleft, jaw lots and lots of game of thrones. Pros here. Alina rights with a general question. Have you had a chance to listen to episodes of the companion podcasts? She saw about the officials for noble ones. HBO's releasing do you think this is specific to sure noble or is HBO going to start doing this type of content for other shows, yes, is this something you would actually like to see more of? No, because I'm their direct competitor. They will absolutely one hundred percent do more of this. They are touting HBO now not as a visual, like visual streaming service, but a streaming service, full stop, that's audio video. I think this is the first time that you are remarked on like off air last week. But I was I think last week was the first time you could actually listen to the podcast, and it's an entirety from HBO now, like it's just like an extra feature you go. And it's like oh, it's a forty minute podcast..
"ned stark" Discussed on Sports? with Katie Nolan
"So the ringer put out like a thread on Twitter. That was essentially a bunch of one's gotta goes like it took four items and four pictures, and was like you can only bring one back you have to bring one back most heartbreaking death Bubba blah. Let's pick five of them. Oh, gosh, you're already making me make decisions. So. But it's they put it out before the finale. So it's not looking back on everything. I so it's like it's like a post like MVP you don't take the postseason into account, so we're not taking the finale into account. Correct. Okay. So like epic death doesn't include God, John stabbing in right? Does include the night king short. Why don't we just say what the which one pick five because we don't have that much time Katie. Yeah. You can only bring one back Ned stark lady Olinda, tyrel, leeann, Mormon, or over in Martell. Wait. Oh, the first one. Okay. Ed stark lady Elena, Liana more or open. I think I'd be bring back lady Elena. Really? Yeah. Tell me why I like her. I thought she was a really good character. I mean, they're all really good characters obviously Ned stark, we have no idea, what would like I don't think we would have had the character arcs in development like if Ned stark doesn't die, aria doesn't become aria so getting him. Dying was important, and it was really early. And so I didn't have time to miss him. You know, lady Lynda actually, I really liked the way that she died, though. Yeah, it was pretty baller. Yeah. But was like, tell sir, I wanted to know it was it was me and like that was so bad. But I really liked her as a character. She looks like a cat potent its head into Mellon or whatever that thing was that. I sent you. We oughta more Mont was also great though. But we didn't lose her until the very end. I like the way she died. So I. I think I think I'd bring back lady. That's my whatever. What who'd you bring back? I think it'd bring back over in. Oh, do you. Oh, you circled does me as mine. Yeah. Wrote, katie. Oh, I thought you circled it because you wanted to take it and I was like, oh, you're gonna change your all right. Why bring back over him because I thought he brought a little genetic Kwalik lab. She just did sing with shoulder shimmy. He had the flair. He was a good fighter like he had revenge. The whole, you know, the whole Dohrn thing we kind of blew up after that. And I thought he was really interesting dude. Okay. Fine. Cool next. Okay. You have to bring one back Joffrey. Oh boy. Ramsey, the Cirrus or the high Spero. Gross. I hit all of us so much. I think of all of them, I would bring BRAC BRAC Burbach Berg Brooklyn, Sarah Snell say it's not Ramsey. No, I'd bring my Sarah's in might be because we spent so less time with him than we did with the others that we didn't see that we did or. Yeah, I didn't hate him as long. He was super creepy he was super whiny. But he was of no heater didn't. He do something really evil or am I like giving him credit for something Joffrey did might have been free. I don't want to say it the high Spero though was he bad bed that whole storyline. I try to bright but sir. See, hugh. I mean he was bad to everybody. Anybody who was gay or. Oh. We'll all that he's dead. Well, I mean, yeah he was just, pretty terrible across the board is also just annoying. Yeah. He was the character was just just don't wanna see him anymore. The whole storyline was terrible. I mean again, if you bring back the Cirrus than you than, than I don't think that I don't think we get you know what I mean..
"ned stark" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast
"So do you think that HBO would willing to would be willing to do that? Yeah. I think they would I mean the show is so huge for them. I think it would get people extremely excited. It would cause. A massive resurgence in, like HBO now, subscriptions, and they would have every financial incentive to do it. People be going back in, like going back and watching all the to get the challenge of that, because I think the one thing this show did just the purply is cast, the, the thing that you're gonna have a real hard time is fine a cast that can be these people, you'd have to do like essentially joss Weeden wasn't, Josh Weeden, or was it the other guy that did Star Trek reboot that was Abrahams abor Jj Abrams, you'd have to do that level of casting where like people look at Chris pine, and let God damn. Yeah. That's a fucking good young, captain Kirk. You look at that Kary. That's damn fine. Spock like you have to nail it like that. And it's that's I actually think that's harder than just casting impeccable book characters because then it's like their feelings, but they haven't seen flesh and blood. Holy shit. That's. Ned stark. Holy shit. That's, that's Queen heiress. Like you've got to compete with that it can be done. It's very, very hard. I almost think it would be better to go back and do the entire series over. I mean look at Lord of the rings, right. It's being rebutted already as an Amazon prime original. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is it actually just the Lord of the rings the like the original saga? I thought it was so. But maybe I'm wrong because I thought it was like maybe some really in type of stuff. But I don't know they're calling it the Lord of the rings. At least from what I've read, which has been very little admittedly. But yeah, I almost think it would pay to like recast entirely go back and remake the entire series because who's not going to watch it like yeah. Watch the old ones where you can watch the new ones and talk about them with your friends as they come out like that seems the way to go. Yeah. I mean, I've often wondered like we could be would any whatever reboot the Harry Potter series because almost everyone agrees that was really well cast and they're pretty happy with the way wins. And I know there's some purist start quibbling with the later books that they didn't have every detail in and maybe they didn't do Justice by Ron's character cetera. But like it's always risky to redo the whole like all seasons. One through six game of thrones because they're so fucking good. The redo it like you got at least as good if not better Jew shot for shot..
"ned stark" Discussed on Double Toasted
"It doesn't make any sense to me. Did you have another point about this? Or you're just gonna get mad about the blue. Oh, no. I'm just getting started. Because prophecy all this was prophecy. Because it was only her that can do it need. I remind all of you. The only reason she went across this path was because she just so happened to coincidentally bump into Jack in hung gar from the death of Ned stark, which everyone in season one just assumed before we found out Joffrey with a little piece of shit. That he was going to spare his life so due to Joffrey. What reversal or subverting people's west roses expectations? Right. This event led to Arya having to run away to meet up with Jack and Hogar. By accident. But you're telling me it was her destiny. It was her Desi if net stark was alive. Are you wouldn't be there? Please someone counter this point if net stark was alive with that was everyone's plan before we found out Joffrey with a little piece of crap. Barabra see you're doing this thing where you're getting lost in the sauce, man. Like, you shouldn't worry about that. Right. Because how many times have they said it in this season alone like the, Jamie. It's okay. That horrible thing. You did. That was the first step to your redemption. Right. Same thing with the fucking. What's theon, right? Like, everything you did lead you to this moment. So that's the easy answer for that. You know, like you can't go back and start getting precious about serendipitous things. Look that's not the problem there actual problems with this. And you're nitpicking, and I don't understand it. Like, what are you doing miles thought? Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. Let's let's bring out one the other point sent. So again, I'm not upset that Arya did it. But why didn't they make it? What's the word? I'm looking for like more of a team effort, right? Like if it's already who did it. I understand the Simba. Eliza. And that it was a winter fell. And you know, and if you actually notice the episode was really catered more on the starch, right? Like, you know, they would show you bran or Jamie from time to time. But it would always be what's onto doing? What's are you doing right? Like, what's what's John's? No doing right. Why did they make it more more of a group thing? Right. Like, you know, prophecy aside, you know, why couldn't Danny have just dropped off John. Right. And it was kind of like a one v one or something. And then I don't know where looks like John is going to die and due to the stealthy of aria being in the Sassan, she'd deals the crushing blow that would have been better. I just made it better or scenario beat right? Let's say for whatever reason I dunno theon doesn't Russian recklessly and brand is just like, hey, just kinda Chou here because it looks like he was buying time for aria to show up. Anyway. So why did he why can he just healthy on? Hey, hey, just say what just say right here for the next forty five seconds. Right. But the Russian kills him on. Brand is walking into something. Why didn't he ward into ragle? We ended up finding out that dragons actually survived or somehow wargin to Zambia abilities. And you know, we'll get into brand later. But what's the point? When the Riyadh raven is like brand, you're never going to walk again. But you'll fly. Was that symbol throwaway reference? Just for him to walk into ravens. You know, how many people were talking about the dragons like he's going to dragon. He's a three eyed raven. He's going to work into dragon note that would have been cool again, my issue that has not to do with the nitpicking nature that you're going with it. But just the larger nature of they have made such a big deal to make the nineteen important in this eleventh-hour, right? Like last like was to episodes ago, or maybe just last episode whatever they had that whole thing about oh he's going to he's trying to race all of existence the night..
"ned stark" Discussed on KFC Radio
"On them. I guess I don't know where where you know, the people who are liking it or kind of like the I mean, whatever man it's like the battle didn't work out in their favor. It doesn't mean it was a bad episode. But when the overall message was kinda missed and then people start to pick it apart. I just I just want to be able to like talk about a show. Good and bad or talk about anything. Good and bad without it being like. You're you're trolling all the time. I think people like overreacted to the Arias scene because that I really did like that. I thought that that was really cool, but very southern. I think people said she she saw a face. But show that how assume she stole a face, and what in the middle of her running over a she got through the white walkers, and then she decided to expose yourself. But if you stole a face when did you keep the face onto the dead at what's hard about this faceless thing is that you can't show like the reveal it can't be like some Scooby doo shit where you pull the mask off because you'd be become the whole person. You know, what I mean like, I don't remember how they did it with Walter fray. Like did she like did she pull it off? And then they did she like shrink back down to being a little girl. Because like, how would you know, how do you go from like a zombie that has like holes in your body and shit like that toback to being a human? It's kinda like. I don't know. It's weird. I think people just listen to you guys like criticizing the story. And being like, I I don't know. We just killed the monster now, and I don't like that. I think in the moment what everybody was jumping on social media. And being like that was an awesome moment with aria. It was it was there was no I thought it was okay. Because it was because it wasn't. I I like the the Jagger is like important. I like that. She did like the move. She's done before. And I like, you know, Arias kind of like she became this like death machine throughout the course of arc. That's all. That's all fine with me. I can I think it's pretty a summit up that there wasn't a wow moment because we all knew we were all watching here. We all knew we had a camera on us. So like e that just human nature is tends to play things up when you know, you're being filmed and still none of us like. Yeah. It was it was a little climactic at least here. I mean, I'm sure there are thrones fans who were going wild. It just didn't like strike. It's not just it wasn't the two of us in here. They were fucking fifteen twenty people here. Yeah. No, one was like are can't believe that everybody got to believe that there were there. It didn't have the shock. Wow. Factor. Yeah. It was it was like oh shit. Yeah. That's kind of other go shit. Okay. That was I definitely I thought like she fell short. I think I said, oh, so close, and I think what thrones has kind of been built on. And I don't know how the public is. I binged all in like the last month. But like when Ned stark was killed. I was like holy shit. Yeah..
"ned stark" Discussed on Kotaku Splitscreen
"And all these people are being horribly murdered. And they sort of look at each other. There's some really cool music throughout this episode the red woman's read God's steam comes back, and I think that what was playing here was kind of some notes of the reins of cast Amir. I'm not totally sure about that. I haven't done a bunch of research on this episode online. But the music that was playing kind of indicate I think that that's what I was hearing. So here's. Good. So here is also where you can't give much thought to the actual mechanics and the consistency of the night kings power because if he can raise the dead from the crypts who are presumably like in some cases, hundreds of years old Starks going back generations and their bodies have not decomposed and can be reanimated. But when he does his thing out in the world, he doesn't like suddenly like get all of the many corpses. That are probably buried underground all over the the the the country of west rose like like, you're walking through west coast, and they're probably bodies underneath you like many feeding the ground. So so what are the rules behind what he actually gets to raise? And what he doesn't like how badly like clearly a body cannot can have deteriorated and decompose and can still be brought back otherwise the crypts wouldn't have had men. It's it's not even worth thinking about. But it's just like in previous in like the books. Everything is given so much. Thought and meticulous detail and previous seasons of game of thrones had that where like everything it has. This these rules and these rules include dragons, and this world's rules include zombies and dragons and fantasy stuff, but they all follow rules and are consistent with them. And here is just like it doesn't matter what the rules are. We just wanna have a bunch of bad ass moments. And that is why that these seasons have just been flopping so hard for me. Yeah. That's not my number one curiosity. I mean, I whatever there's magic. There's definitely ways that he could be controlling who raises up. I was a little bone. We didn't get a zombie Ned stark. I guess he's headless. So maybe he can't be raised up. But anyways, the yet. Yeah. No, I guess not. Or maybe maybe she was there, and she was just sort of horrifying white, and we didn't really see her anyway Tyrian kisses son's hand, and it's really wonderful. Yeah. They're both just like we're fucked. We're going to die us she holds up her knife. And let's do this. So I believe if I remember correctly. That's also the same scene where we see Liana and dollars ED's is turned blue and they come out, and then we never see them. It's just like, oh, they're going to. I'm fine with that. I didn't need a dumb scene where like aria fights Leon zombie Liana stark, or I mean, leeann Mormon would have been a little bit cheesy like seeing them come back did feel like they were sitting something that didn't pay off. But it just sort of indicated. Yes, all the people who were killed are coming back, and you know, these people so that's a quick way of saying. Yes, all the people that we just lost our now fighting against us extra double fucked, and which they then kind of blues really great music starts playing really good music in this episode in general the courtyard, just total chaos. Sam Jamie, Brienne term in the hound. They're all they're fighting. They're totally overwhelmed. They're definitely scenes where Sam we'll just get crushed by camby's. And you think okay, did Sam Di Novi didn't die because the logic of the episode has been established. So it's a little like doesn't have a ton of tension. But it's still pretty amazing looking..
"ned stark" Discussed on Pardon My Take
"Nope. I've also I'm going to minister you soon as I can now get so what else I wrote out. Oh, John snow telling his aunt that they've been fucking Dow's while Twitter user, I think it's at big business. He said Danny acted like brain was crisper Sar dog. He did she did. She was like you're going to believe that fucking guy. That's the other thing that I've been hoping was going to happen was. So remember, the two kids that won't brand to the wall and three raven and all that shit. Yeah. Their dad was the dude that stabbed the night that was with Ned stark member there in the fight. And he's like he thought it looked like he was gonna lose the net guy his friend stabbed the guy in the back. Okay. Ran up to the tower to get John snow. Yes. So that guy is still alive. It's those two kids dad, so he can come in like verify everything. Oh, he's still like a while. They're civil live in the world that I'm hoping that in these first web. So it's like he was gonna come be like, no like this is legit damn. So I'm I'm still hoping that happens without another like, I thought it was a good episode. But those two things are a little bit like of a letdown. It's going to be a huge episode next week. Everyone's gonna die jor is going to die in ultimate friend zone. That guy that guy. Probably how many times you think Giora has jerked off to Khalidi sin. Since thousands seven seven following Khalil denarius around and being like a right hand, man. But he secretly just wants to fuck her hands. Yeah. Yeah. But she's like, no, dude. She too old has been. Yeah. He's been with her. She'd have like seven boyfriend. Perfect seasons of friends. She's playing that. Exactly. Right. Like get his stocks run. All the way of making be horny all the time. Right. What you want your defender to be right? So he's just been jerking it to her like every single time. He's off camera. And now he's gonna die without ever with a without ever feel ever feeling a woman's warmth. Yes. Exactly. So yeah. It's going to be a crazy episode. I don't know. John snow? I feel like deniro did not take that news. Well, I may not the rightful heir. She took it about as well as you could have expected like, well, that's it is kind of like, oh, your best friend and your weird asked brother like maybe she was happy that he was the air. But she was sad that she wasn't going to get dick down anymore. They're still gonna take down. That's not gonna stop area. In a weird way. I think it makes even hotter for that. Their whole family thing is like not muddying the bloodlines fucking like security. Laundry. This kind of funny. What game of thrones does your brain? Where it's like the twenty two year old girl that you saw grow up. You're like, no don't fuck. And then the and nephew the brother and sister. You're like fuck. Yes. That's hot. So so there's sisters or they aunt. That's aunt and view. Yeah. He's working his aunt. He's fucking Zandt. That's better than brother sister. You have served in Chamie have created four children together. Okay. They're they're twins. Fuck very all right. That's our show. I think we covered everything up brands still weirdo. He just says weird sham. He's he he just like it should be record scratch every time. He says something I'm still very woke on brand. Oh, I think that brand is going to he's either gonna kill me. He's gonna kill somebody could be the night king. He's like trying to do this thing where he's I have the Nike meet me by myself out in the middle of the woods somewhere. So we can make some secret treaty. Yup. Come in kill the fuck out of all of you people also one last thing all time..
"ned stark" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast
"Can't miss it. You'll see a giant g Ahmadi head click on there to either participate if your club member or sign up. Okay. Let's talk about the final third of the book. We started with dying. Dragons rainier triumphant which I if you'll recall from last week, I naively thought that was the end of the dance of dragons. Yeah. It was actually maybe the mid point. Yeah. I mean, look at this these things are they die hard in keeping with the Christmas these season this, right? They die as Christmas movie of all die hard. Yeah. All right. So tell me a run did you have to force yourself to finish it or were you sort of enthralled right through to the back cover. You know, I so I was a little bummed with the with with the fact that we're still in the dance because I really don't like I mean, these are just guarantee behaving badly. They don't give a shit about the realm. It's all about who has it's it's it's just it's a lot of boring ugly, ugly stuff, but I found that as I kept reading that the characters became like just into telling the story fleshed out that I started to like having a slight preference for one or the other. The dragon combat was kinda cool. I also. I've heard about the dance of dragons. And I've read some material in the world of ice and fire. And for whatever reason the narrative never sunk that this was just really a dragon holocaust the right? The most dragons of note die, and I think we're there's only two or three left in the land by the time by by the time, we get to the end of it. Do you have a because again, I want to save some some space for Kim. And chased you have another point that we should discuss before. Yeah. No makes us to hear what they say to. There was only one of the thing that I wanted to get your take on. And that was a crooked stark. Yes. And I was our the wolf. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He's a really interesting guy. I mean, this this last section was difficult for me to give through. But I thought he was one of the more interesting characters, and I was almost thinking about him as sort of an anti Ned or a bizarre. Ned because what do you think about net stark key sort of forced into being the hand of the king? He he doesn't understand the politics on the south. Getting kind of getting eaten alive down there by contrast. Here we have this creek in stark, who's the Lord of winter fell who basically, you know, marches down south and instead of being eaten alive, he he really enters the scene after the dance of dragons is almost over. So everyone's exhausted and their resources are spent any kind of just takes over the place. Yeah. And in all of the things that Ned was really weak at this. This creek and start guy looks like he's just he's just the perfect hand of the king for this particular moment in history, right? Yeah. It's it's interesting because you're right. He is kind of the bizarro the bizarro Ned stark because he comes you Ned came with his household guard. Just a handful of dudes. This guy hasn't host of like tin twenty thousand northerners all prepared to die because the dog. I think they're going to die. Yeah. Yeah. This is all the dawn of winter and his e points out like it's a it's a it's a northern tradition that for all the old men. The second sons the men with with not very many prospects, essentially mouths to feed. To to go, and you know in times of peace. They just go out into the forest to commune with nature and your understood that they freeze the death in times of war. They make these these fanatical death than suicide marches, essentially. Yeah, they're base population control using warfare and at times. Yeah. Mon population control, so creaking gets down there. And it's taken him a while to get down there. Because of by the time he gets down there. It's intially the the dance of dragons is over. But he's like, hey, you got you've got, but you've got a surplus in betrayers the haven't been to knee at so I'm gonna take my north men, and we're going to go to Hightower..
"ned stark" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"Yeah i think the third suggestion he just like seizes on that he loves widows whale mmediately like he was getting some good names he should have really heard them outgrow it awhile don't be so he sti widows whale isn't such a winner that you gotta lock in on widows whale immediate somebody yelled out terminus oh really watch what the castano what hermida oh my god yeah well maybe that would have four shouted that valerian sword winding up in the hands of thin maybe it's like yes widows well then takes slices the book into a million pieces nobody says yeah i mean i don't know it's it's great it's just you know we're we're losing joffrey in this episode we're only going to see him in one more episode and it's going to be like fully dead joffrey barack the and so it doesn't really count it's just the show is just like milking here they are just doing lassic jump very oh it's so it's so good he talks about how like every time i use this sword it's going to be like cutting off ned stark's head again it's like you didn't do that who don't know it that was that belt like you just called it into action you idiot my god he's just the worst at it's so good this show just never has anyone quite like jaffrey after this you really gotta soak in the moments that you have with him left because he such scoundrel such an awful awful kid yeah and then we see tyrian back with shea who's in his quarters and he's like no he's giving her the heisman and he says like a you gotta stop you gotta get out of here our friendship can't continue of a married man and she's like what are you talking about your being crazy.
"ned stark" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"Mr king i mean that's what they do they're crazy they're great leaps they really really are but yeah like it feels like authentically sirtzi would've been fine for ned stark to go back to castle black in just you know take the black in his days up on the wall that would have been her plan so with joffery wasn't as impulsive as he was if he wasn't as awful as he was ned stark walks away from this ned stark gets to live ned stark gets to go and take the black ned stark gets to go to the nights watch ned start gets to reunite with john snow ned stark promised the next time he sees john snow we'll talk about your mother if dead stark survives this does he go to the wall but talk to john does he tell john he's attor gary in and given the magnitude of what they're facing beyond the wall do you think that some sort of plot gets enacted from that point forward were ned tries to rally around behind john snow behind his nephew as the true targeting king you think that that's the order i'm not sure because i think that if anybody is going to take that oath of the nights watch seriously it's going to be ned stark so i don't know if those ned ha ever had any plans for john to come back in be we've we've touched on that like what what was the thinking was at a good hiding spot for him but once john takes the old i can't imagine ned signing off on a plan that was going to involve john leaving the nights watch i think that the the argument against that would be that net is one of the coworker text the roberts rebellion so when he saw injustice in the past at the highest level he started a war over it you know he was willing to do that he coauthored that with robber barath younan and john aaron and you know that was it was very personal for him you know a lot of its stemming from the disappearance of his sister and brutal murder of his father and his brother so net was personally linked to them he was willing to go to war over that i think given everything that he had just gone.
"ned stark" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"Yeah my wife is out of control let me the arable that the dark would never do such a thing but you know he could have may be in that instance handled everything better there josh my biggest take away from this episode is and we hear the the words actually uttered in this episode king robert will call ned the honorable fool ned stark so my question to you and obviously you know we don't know this watching it the first time through but then if you watch sees in one watched it you would say all k ned stark honorable full but now with all the information that we have now after seven seasons of game of thrones knowing what we know about ned in his back story with his sister with the target mary and baby who was hidden away and a target area pregnancy and may be at this point being hr gary sympathizer does that color the events of this episode for you in a different way where ned stark wants no part of the murder of two nearest target syrians child with call drago yeah 100 percent i mean i i still think that maybe he could have taken you know he could bit of a little bit more tactful in his approach here and not be so fireandbrimstone but that wouldn't be ned stark for a guy who is characterized by ice not fire he can get a little hotheaded himself and can be a little bit stubborn and i think you see that in really basically every single person with the last name stark on this show or even affiliated with the family but that being said yet ned has only once you know besmirched his honour in terms of his public persona.
"ned stark" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"Five free says the start of your house elements of the did you feel like it's a little weird that john needs to remind ned stark like it's funny though like isn't that symbol of your house like oh yeah you never you mention it it is i mean he would be like if you and your kids josh stumbled on to like six pizza boxes right i know we're like oh pizza in the middle of the road throw it out just get rid of it like a father father isn't the pizza box these symbol of house wiggly indeed it is by the way it sir it's certainly certainly is no slice left behind as are those are house words but i think that look the thing about ned stark and the fiction that the the first season tries to sell you on is that this is the guy but we know that he's not the guy we know that he's only going to make it nine episodes he's going to get his head cut off off his troubles and i think it's something that you hear a lot about throughout the show as recently as this penultimate season when john is gearing up to go in meat and errors for the first time and they're talking about how bad things happened starks when they go south like catlin even says that he this very episode and we had sansa say to john at one point like i miss father i miss rob tremendously but the as much as they were fantastic human beings.
"ned stark" Discussed on Overthinking It Podcast
"Where tyrian is kind of counting the people who work at the port uh and he notices which ones are working for little finger in which ones are working for varous in which ones are working for him and little finger plays this game with various for years and years where they try to take control of various sorts of municipal offices government offices etcetera etcetera now when a pause here and ask you guys do you remember cereal for al you as you remember cereal for all east great is to amend remembers a man remembers great syrup parral uh at syria for all is the logical stuff the let's let's keep this in mind right um and this is also around the one thing that the show changed there's too there's two things that show change that really really really really bother me and one of them is when ned stark goes to winter felt when did circus in winter fell and king robert asked him to go to king's landing in the books ned doesn't want to go and cat says that it's his duty any he has to go and in the show ned uh wants to go and cat says you can't because your children and i feel like that cheapens their relationship it makes it very onedimensional and tawdry in a way that it wasn't before and the other thing is a change to one line which i'm building towards so peter belhadj has a huge network of brothels he's bitten this massive embezzlement scheme he has lisa leslie erin write a letter to kaplan start to let her know the leonard stirs our trey are conspiring against them he has lights a murderer john erin uh and throw the the kingdom into this disarray he helps lead at net stark on this crazy goose chase which leads to ned stark planning a coup against the king and enlisting little fingers help which he refuses at the last minute getting that star killed he then throws in with the lanus tres hopes the less uh uh ill i remember and this is where.
"ned stark" Discussed on TV Avalanche
"Either show made its reputation the fact that you know it was it kill the king in the north it killed ned stark but after the red wedding it's really only killed people off that were the hit way outlived their usefulness right right and i wonder if other shows are starting to take that lesson from it though like you said where we've got to kill somewhat off ending there are ways to do sneaks that door devolve killing people off ivey you bad bed killed off a few people but you know outside of what lead at a ed burt eventually button the your bank characters are bad men were there some of a left the office abyss of sal but right you know you don't always have to do that i wonder if that's kind of the one of the lessons the people are going to take away from it is that you know near the end of our seasoned you look around the room what are you is going to be your next year over freight yeah i mean it's i guess useful thing when you know actor contracts come well this is the show where we kill people off um yeah i mean i think i think that there's two there's just people can take some cheap dumb lessons from you know from the stuff that game of thrones has done that hasn't actually mean blitz it it can be so hard to talk about game of thrones because it does some things really well and then other things not so well so it's it's it's not like you can say one thing or the other about like will that does this badly in this whatever i mean definitely the the ned start thing was at a turning point in a big moment but i think you know.
"ned stark" Discussed on A Cast of Kings - A Game of Thrones Podcast
"Um it you're on this people which are remote cut of a of serb like will hug like if if the art wickford if the already set the scene afterwards was so good like uh it wasn't it worth it to take the plot shortcuts and i guess for me it shouldn't be like zerosome game you can do the the good character work uh and so get to the same i think what i liked about this episode overall is that for the most part characters behaved logically and it in a way that honours everything that's happened until this point like that's why i like this episode so much more than the previous two episodes is at for the most part i mean there are some silliness in there we talked about it but for the most part the characters are behaving like how we think they'll behave and i think that makes for more satisfying from ultimately i had a bake acceptance that later but yes yes uh especially like out all that dragon pit stuff we talked about that that all did feel very consistent and in character yummy told how told yeah so uh back a dragon stone john's explaining how the duff rocky and insoluble get the winter full uh and john and danny decide to sell north together like they're cut it's gonna interesting vis vis political game they're playing to like or how is this like pageantry third diving in to local how how should we show up together because apparently that makes a difference for people right like how you show up affects how people perceive you and opposing the show is gonna dabbling in those politics ends of beside still north then john and theon uh have this amazing conversation about ned stark in all these emotions that have been building up for years and years come to headier uh talk about what it means out to identities in the this is suddenly both gone through theon being award of the starks john being abasse for child that does even know what is true origins are very poignant well acted by both people uh i thought his great what you think.
"ned stark" Discussed on Fake the Nation
"Other area staring at his hordes um that are going to be like that are wait trying to wade out this group um and then a battle emerges and we lost some characters that i you know that weren't terribly dear to me so like i was okay characters lou yeah yeah yeah totally but there was a moment where we thought we were gonna lose john snow you're always going to say that but but i was just like we can't have a full additional season of game of thrones left and there's no johnstone that doesn't make any sense also seemed has not slept with his own aunt run to nearest which people were rooting for whether it's okay for people who don't realize this because i don't know that everybody like but to narus is the daughter of he it she is sister this the she rigor aunt she's uh john snow and the sister of ned stark sister that's our sister of with the maris's sister yes brother and they had johnson and they had johnstone yet steer exactly so they're totally related and making romantic googly eyes at each other or gearing trade is insist yeah those attorney got wind of atlanta's srs also do it will their theories to that because we know that um we know that the the jimmy insurgencies mother and end tyrians mother had an affair indoor was raped by one of the targets as well uh that was like a whole that was a whole thing that that one of the theories is that tyrian is is actually tar gary and but there's another counter theory that it's sir seen gene yet that makes marcelo lancasters and and that's that's why there's madness and incest and all the target for now okay so there might be a target area anything or you wanna fuck your.
"ned stark" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast
"The starks associated with winter snow his last name as fucking snow with him having targeting and blood and their fight you know they're literally fire and blood i mean he is the song of ice and fire and regard be proven true yum so i think it matters for those that's you care to to characters ending a matters to the prophecy um so and and as you said narrative lee why introduce it at this point of it didn't matter yet so i keep it going but again like houses prince promising going to kind of going to play out because it still seemed really silly for him to be some kind of superman yeah right um so yeah i i don't i don't know he also wants enough to north return on john at the newest fathers radar garin and not ned stark i guess that's another thing um but i don't know if you'll like the northlake like they're willing to set aside everything about his parentage and like look this guy threw is leadership and his battle prowess has lived up to the stark line absolutely and he still got net starts blood running through him because his sister leon as as mother so i don't know how that would change i don't know how that would change unless john got a big head on him and went full targe area and it started like i you fucking nor the money though not bad being the know hurt on that continued to be the king in the northern became of all bustros marched with me i that navy yadana all right final spoiler email shamanee my question is how on board with the tyrian is a secret or guarantee theory argue.