18 Burst results for "Nazanin Zagari Radcliffe"
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"I have huge admiration for him and he was sitting in the gallery yesterday when I gave my statement to parliament and I talked to him, of course, yesterday at the airport as well, and I've been in regular touch. I think the issue about dealing with this as a government minister is necessarily quite a lot of the work I have to do is confidential. So for example, the payment route we have found is subject to a confidentiality clause between us and the Iranians. So I can not reveal the details of it. And these negotiations often extremely delicate, they involve different parts of different governments, we also had help, of course, in conveying the detainees from our Armani Friends. We were working with them. So necessarily, I wasn't able to make public everything I was doing. But I'm not just talking about you. I'm talking about your predecessors in the post and how your government had a conservative government for 12 years now, and you've been a minister for most of that time, have treated Richard Radcliffe and by extension, nazanin. I mean, if you look at obviously what happened in 2017, just to remind our listeners, one of your predecessor, Boris Johnson, told a parliamentary committee that nazanin was in Tehran training journalists in 2016 at the time of her arrest, she was not, four days later, she was summoned to an unscheduled court hearing where his comments were cited as proof, she was engaged in propaganda against the regime. A few days after that, she found lumps in her breasts. She saw a medical specialist and her family said she was on the verge of a mental breakdown. That was 5 years ago at the hands of the foreign secretary, now the prime minister has Boris Johnson personally apologized to nazanin about his serious error since she's been freed. I think we should be clearer whose hands this is. It is the responsibility of the Iranian government who unfairly detained British citizens. But you can't control them. What you can control is our response as a government and how we have helped or not. Nazanin zaghari ratcliffe..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"Yes, I can only imagine and you pay tribute to the diplomacy, but you also confirmed yesterday as part of your statement that the UK had paid a decades old debt of nearly 400 million pounds to Iran, relating to a contract for undelivered tanks. This is something Richard ratcliffe has been asking for for the last 6 years, so why now? Well, I'm very clear that this is legitimate debt that the UK government ditto the Iranian government and that we needed to resolve that issue. I met my counterpart, the Iranian minister Abdul an in September in New York at the UN General Assembly. It was in the first week of the job. And we both agreed that the worthies long-standing issues, the unfair detention of British citizens, the unpaid debt by the United Kingdom, and we needed to work to resolve these issues for the betterment of our citizens. And my priority has been securing the release of our citizens and also paying the debt, which is striking to people if I may. It was part of your statement yesterday and the concern is it could be perceived as a ransom and what precedent that might set. Will you ask me ever why it would say difficult to pay the debt? And the answer is, of course, that Iran is a heavily sanctioned country. So it is not simple to transfer money into pay pay debt in the way that it would be with a standard partner that the UK deals with all the time. So that is why it was a difficult process and to make sure that money was going to be spent on humanitarian purposes was also extremely important to be able to comply with international law. So those types of issues do take time to resolve and I was determined as foreign secretary to find a route that we could do that. And we did examine lots of different routes our officials have worked incredibly hard on this. I mean, I deployed teams of officials to run on several occasions. Yes, no, no, no. And no one starting no one starting that, but what I actually asked was why now, and one of the first questions that came in from a listener when I said you were a guest on the program this morning is, why couldn't you just paid this debt 6 years ago to save her going through this ordeal? And another listener said, would nazanin be free this morning without the war in Ukraine? Do we now need Friends with oil?.
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"This is the show where we offer you some of the best and must hear interviews from across the week just gone. In today's program, you'll hear from foreign secretary and women's minister Liz trus on meeting nazanin zagari Radcliffe as she touched down on British soil this week. We'll also be exploring changing trends in pregnancy wear. We meet the real-life Barbara lesic a cofounder of the director action network which successfully convinced the conservative government to pass the disability discrimination act in 1995 and Ruth madeley the actor who plays her in a new BBC Two drama. And will also hear from Russian and Ukrainian best Friends and chefs, Alyssa to mosh kina and Ollie Hercules on setting up cook for Ukraine and their friendship across frontiers. But first, she is back. She is free after 6 long years of being imprisoned in Iran at 1 o'clock on Thursday morning, nazanin zaghari ratcliffe touched down on British soil to be reunited with her husband and biggest champion Richard and their 7 year old daughter Gabriela. Nazanin, a British Iranian charity worker was arrested in Iran in 2016 while visiting her parents and has spent 6 years in detention after being convicted of plotting to overthrow the Iranian government, charges, she's always denied..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"We had our full accreditation and we thought we would travel towards butcher, which is sort of north of the capital. And there had been a Russian convoy that was destroyed at the previous night. We had good contacts inside this little town. It's still within the wider area. And we cautiously working in that area was getting more and more difficult because of the volume of checkpoints. It was checkpoint checkpoints every 500 meters or so. We'd have to pass through, show your accreditation, talk to the Ukrainian soldiers or the civilian militia. So we thought we'd go to butcher, we did a very quick story about the Russian convoy that had been hit. We'd make sure that we made it back before dark. Because you don't want to be navigating those roads and checkpoints after dark. So that was really our goal. It got to around 4 p.m. and we'd spent about 5, 6 hours going through checkpoints and it bear in mind this is to get something like 20 miles. Out of the capital, you know, we're not going a huge amount of distance. When we decided that the safe thing to do would be to abandon trying to get to butcher and head back to the city center because it was starting to get dark, you know, the it just felt like we had tried to go to where we needed to be for the story, but it hadn't quite worked out so the safe thing to do would be to turn around and go back to the capital. At this stage, we were only about 15 miles from the captain. And how did the ambush begin?.
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"Well, she did commit to coming back on to answering all of your questions about what perhaps women want around the world and also closer to home as women and equalities minister. But of course, a massive part of our conversation was also about her responsibilities as foreign secretary and she says it's an incredibly busy time at the moment and that is mainly because of what is happening in Ukraine with the Russian invasion. And the war in Ukraine. And Ukraine has accused Russian forces of bombing a theater where civilians were being sheltered in the besieged southern city of Mario pole. The deputy mayor Sergei or love has told the BBC between a 1012 hundred people had sought refuge in the building, but the number of casualties is still unknown. Images show the building in ruins, but it now seems there are reports of survivors in the rubble. Well, how do we know any of this? It's because of the role of journalists for those who are taking the photos for those who are filming. Also for those who are the fixes often locals in the area, reporting from the conflict in Ukraine is as important as it is dangerous and several journalists have now been killed there, including the 24 year old Ukrainian fixer oleksandr Kofi nova on Tuesday of this week. My next guest has first hand of what it's like to experience these dangers. The senior foreign producer Dominique van herden is part of Sky News team that was shot at whilst reporting near Kyiv during the first week of the war. They were ambushed while driving on a main road, and in the car with Dominique was sky's chief correspondent, Stuart Ramsey, camera operator Ritchie mockler and the producer Martin vows as well as a local fixer, Andrew litvinenko. First, something blue their tire, the car then rolled to a stop by the side of a motorway embankment. Then a shower of bullets hit the car and incredibly, they were filming when it happened. I'm going to play you a clip of some of that video that's Sky News has broadcast afterwards, but I do want to issue a warning that you may find it here, hearing it, excuse me, distressing. It does contain some strong language, which is understandable in the circumstances. Hello. Wow. What the? Stop. Everyone..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"So obviously, Richard family and himself, especially and I know Shea's family have been very prominent in the media. They've done a lot of work with the media have been very active and I think it's obviously thrilled that they're out, but I think a lot of it was helped along by the media. We did not take that road. And we basically trusted and we were convinced that both governments were going to work in tandem to bring more art home at the same time because that was that was what was told us. How is he? How is he doing? He's coping. He's my brother's suffers from an ongoing debilitating illness and has bravely tried to cope with it in very dark conditions as you can imagine in the notorious prison. Of in prison, as well as having survived to about of COVID there. All I can say is that he's very resilient and the thought of regaining his freedom and joining his family is what gives him strength and keeps him alive despite all the hardships. So he's looking forward to splitting his time between the UK and the U.S. because we have family obviously on both sides, a lot of family. And there's really not much I can say except the fact that we're devastated, we're flawed and we're waiting to see what the next steps will be. Tarana tabas, thank you very much for talking to us to us today. Very mindful of what's going on in your family and also as you say, not something you have done a lot of and we'll keep in touch with you if that's okay. Thank you very much. Tara nata baz is more at tabas sister. The only British born hostage of the three and he's still in Iran not able to come home, but out of prison that if you're confused by the use of the word furlough, I was too, but that's what that means.
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"I look forward to welcoming you back to the program where we'll have a bit more time I hope to speak about your role as women's minister and of course reflect on foreign secretary international trade and what's going on with the Northern Ireland protocol. Well, listening to that is the sister of murad tarbes. The British Iranian hostage and American who still in Tehran who was born in this country though I should stress. He has been released from prison as you were just hearing a little trust. So he's a businessman and a wildlife conservationist who was accused of collecting classified information about Iran's strategic areas under the pretext of carrying out environmental and scientific projects which he has denied. Tarana tabas is more ad sister, good morning. Good morning Emma. Thank you for coming on the program. I just want to give you first of all the opportunity to react to what the foreign secretary just had to say about your brother's case. Well, what can I say? We were told we were given to understand by the foreign office and indirectly by the foreign minister that they were working hard to release him along with nazanin and literally two days ago and I believe foreign minister said on TV channel news program that her team were working towards freeing nazanin Marat and anu she eminently, what can I tell you? We were really, really, really excited. And but things didn't turn out that way. So obviously we're devastated. His three children are heartbroken. And. Unfortunately, furlough isn't the same as releasing him and sending him home. He is, he is with his wife, but he is not home. But he's not free to go anywhere. And we don't know what's going to be the next steps. Is that any comfort to have heard the foreign secretary just say live? I can hear you. You're getting some calls I'm sure it's a very busy time for you. Thank you for sparing the time, but is it any comfort hearing her just say she's going to keep working on it and work with the Americans because that's the block, even though he was born here as I understand it, the Iranians viewing him as an American. Is that any comfort? Well, yes, of course. I mean, yeah, the RNA obviously is the fact that he's the only British born hostage in the group. But it was very kind of the foreign minister to send out a tweet about murad's predicament after the event. But we do urge her and the government not to forget us and not to forget him above all and to turn those words into actions and accountable actions with timelines..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"I have huge admiration for him and he was sitting in the gallery yesterday when I gave my statement to parliament and I talked to him of course yesterday at the airport as well and I've been in regular touch. I think the issue about dealing with this as a government minister is necessarily quite a lot of the work I have to do is confidential. So for example, the payment route we have found is subject to a confidentiality clause between us and the Iranians. So I can not reveal the details of it. And these negotiations often extremely delicate, they involve different parts of different governments, we also had help, of course, in conveying the detainees from our Armani Friends. We were working with them. So necessarily, I wasn't able to make public everything I was doing. But I'm not just talking about you. I'm talking about your predecessors in the post and how your government had a conservative government for 12 years now, and you've been a minister for most of that time, have treated Richard Radcliffe and by extension, nazanin. I mean, if you look at obviously what happened in 2017, just to remind our listeners, one of your predecessor, Boris Johnson, told a parliamentary committee that nazanin was in Tehran training journalists in 2016 at the time of her arrest, she was not, four days later, she was summoned to an unscheduled court hearing where his comments were cited as proof. She was engaged in propaganda against the regime. A few days after that, she found lumps in her breasts. She saw a medical specialist and her family said she was on the verge of a mental breakdown. That was 5 years ago at the hands of the foreign secretary, now the prime minister has Boris Johnson personally apologized to nazanin about his serious error since she's been freed. I think we should be clearer whose hands this is. It is the responsibility of the Iranian government who unfairly detained British citizens. But you can't control them. What you can control is our response as a government and how we have helped or not. Nazanin zaghari ratcliffe..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
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Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"Happening. The revival of Sex and the City is heard, the new series, which is called and just like that, referring to that line carry always used to refer to at the end of the programs. It airs tonight on sky TV, it comes at the same time as a brand new TV show, Harlem, which focuses on four ambitious best Friends navigating relationships and careers. Sound familiar? Well, how important are these female led sitcoms? And what kind of storylines do female audiences want to see at which they're aimed? I'm joined now by doctor kadian power who teaches sociology and black studies at Birmingham City university's school of social sciences. Good morning. Good morning. Are you excited for this new series? Are you concerned? Of course, if you're a fan of something, you can protect it and you don't want it to go worse. I'm not concerned so much because I'm used to the initial bombardment of opinions with TV shows and I don't pay too much attention to that. I try to let a series settle in a bit. I'm excited to see what this new chapter holds and to revisit these characters that I really enjoyed and see where they take things. So yes, of course. I mentioned at the beginning of the program, older women, a look at that, obviously, but also things have changed since the 90s. They definitely have, I think our language has changed. Our politics, our world has changed, and the way we engage in politics, I think, feminism is much more at the forefront issues around race intersectionality class are much more openly discussed. And we have a diverse number amount of programming now with different types of women and different friend groups represented on television. So I think and just like that is going to have to bring something fresh in order to not seem dated, even as the women are older, surely they're bringing, you know, new issues that we can discuss in the 20 years that have passed. And how they fit into this new world that we're in. And there's the gap to do that, I suppose, with Samantha, not being that, you know, who will feel her enormous. I was about to her north fed, but her enormous shoes. That's a whole other conversation. Yes. There will be..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"A couple of years back here that's been confirmed time and time again in court that just listing abortion as part of the medical procedures on offer of a clinic. Let's say, on a web page, constitutes advertising. And that is what the new incoming government now wants to completely strike down eradicate. And they want to make abortion free of charred part of general medical care. And that change, which would be something people perhaps didn't even know that it was how it is how you've described. That change, which we're bringing in line with many other countries, many of the Western countries I should say is being opposed on what grounds and by whom. Well, I mean, there's a, by the church, certainly, who was against the kind of not seeing any kind of punishment and allowing for abortions in the first place. But also from conservative quarters because there are concerns that then also particularly by offering abortions as part of the general medical treatment, not making it taking away its exception status would then make it a medical procedure like any other. And there are deep concerns that this could lead to that being becoming inflationary that more and more people would go for an abortion. But not for very well, I mean, we have many countries where abortion is only allowed in certain circumstances when dangers, the life of mother, the pregnant woman or after rape and there's concerns that this just makes it like any other procedure on basically open the floodgates to women seeing abortion as just an ordinary medical treatment. Do we have any sense or understanding of how the people of Germany feel? Well, ask people and see people generally are more liberal on this. And it actually reminds me of the debate that saw Angela Merkel come around to allowing for same sex marriage that there is a sense it's in a sense a remnant of a conservative consensus and a lack of I guess public outrage that led to this not really being discussed in detail and not being touched during the medical years. Now it's her former coalition partner the social Democrat Schultz who's incoming and who will be leading this coalition of the greens and the free Democrats free Democrats also being more liberal on this issue that will very likely take this forward relatively fast now..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"I'm going to hand over and the chancellory to all our souls due to the pandemic only took about 17 minutes and there was only about three dozen people there with all this stuff afterwards lining up keeping large distance and basically clamping for her. So there was no leaving party. No real leaving party for Angela medical after 16 years. But do go ahead, let's talk about that. Thank you. I always like a link and I like the context in your country and what's been going on. I think it is worth thinking about that because we've also heard of other parties of leaving dues for our former education stack issue, for instance, which was also apparently happening during lockdown last year, so a stark comparison. Let's just start with the abortion law in Germany. What is its current status? At the moment, there will be no proceedings, no legal proceedings against a woman who chooses to go for an abortion within the first 12 months of pregnancy. And that only after she has gone to an advice center who has received medical advice and counseling and the aim of this counseling is still to be reassure women that probably they don't want to have an abortion. But anyway, they can't do it. And you said, well, 12 months there and I presumably mean 12. Sorry, 12 weeks, I'm so sorry. Yes, 12 weeks definitely. And but if then a woman is looking for someone who will conduct that procedure, she may run into difficulty. There are lists published, but there's another paragraph that's 218 that I decided there that lays that down. 219 a sites that must not be any advertising for abortion. And there was actually a.
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"No, we've not heard any progress and the government won't explain to us what the problem is. And I think that's right. They're this bigger context of nuclear stuff, and so on going on, which is all looking a bit less hopeful at the moment. Because that's a different focus completely. Well, he's probably a mood music, isn't it? So probably if things are going badly in other areas, that will affect us. Actually, our storage is quite simple in that sense. It's about specific but a pot of money. And we'll see what unfolds. Every time we speak, which I'm always grateful for you, for you coming on. I always want to ask on behalf of our listeners who get in touch to us. Is there anything that they can do? Does it help you and as an end to hear their support and what they say about this? For sure, for sure, all the care and the concern that she can see online that I can see online that people that come down whether we're having a mom's march or a carousing on the 20th of December, from a Downing Street. All gratefully appreciated. So thank you to everyone that cares and follows our story and keeps us in the light. And just finally, house Gabriella. Yeah, okay, okay. We were putting up the lights, he was reasonably critical about her daddy's decorating. How old is she? Now she's 7 and a half. 7 and a half, that's not quite 8. Okay. So definitely, you know, she decided this year last year we had a last father Christmas that she asked me on Christopher. Are you sure father Chris was actually got this ladder? But look at the presents, I said, well, there's a bit of lockdown, a bit tricky for him. A good woman, she's holding you to account. So this year, we're leaving the letter by the plate of carrots so that far the Christmas can do a final check. I'm so happy that you can at least also have that focus at the same time. Send our best to Gabriela. Thank you. Cliff there with the latest on his case and also the latest on nazanin and I provided that statement, the latest one from the foreign office..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"Making sense of, well, what did we achieve and what didn't we achieve? And that's what we should talk about. Where are you up to with your campaign with your fight? It's a really good question. I think we, you know, the main purpose of the hunger strike was to keep NASA out of prison. She is still not in prison. And has not been summoned just yet. So that's a good sign. I think as you were saying, there's an awful lot more awareness in parliament and an awful lot of kind people came up during the strike and then actually subsequently saying that someone's the band called the Christians who have done a charity single that's coming out there's a mom's march tomorrow. There's kerosene happening in ten days time. So lots of things that people have initiated and said listen, can we do something to show that we care? Beyond that in terms of where the government is, which is the crux of it. Yes. It's still feels like they're getting the same answers in parliament. And I've got the same statement when we asked for the latest statement from the foreign office and that's my memory search me incorrectly. Iran's decision to proceed with these basis charges against nazanin's raptor is an appalling continuation of the cruel ordeal she's going through Iran should urgently release all those British nationals unfairly detained in Iran. The foreign secretary minister cleverly and senior officials consistently raised the cases of nazanin zaghari ratcliffe, anisha ashore, and Maura tabas with the Iranian authorities and will continue to do so. Maybe it's slightly different, but the sentiment of it is the same. Yeah, I think that's fair, the broad sentiment is unchanged. It's set in the bits that are problematic around, you know, what's the government doing about it? It's debt and solving that and what's the government doing to actually stop Iran from taking ostriches? Probably the bit that's positive there. There is the government for the longest time would always talk about nazanin as being a deal national action that message there. They've just called a British. One of the battles we've had there in closed doors was to say listen, you can't treat people like their second class citizens. You know, British citizenship means British citizenship and she's being held because of her British passport. You need to stand up for her. I think it's very important to point out, however, subtle the changes may seem, how big they are. But I suppose that top line, you know, it's an appalling continuation of the crawl ordeal..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"The rules weren't broken. You know, buck stops at the top. And it does seem to me that if the cabinet secretary determines that these events did take place, they need to be extremely open about what rules they say were stuck to if that's their defense and really we all need to see those results. But if it's found that the were in breach of the rules at the time, then it has to stop with the prime minister. And even if they do find some loophole, which means that somehow they can get rid of the legalities of it, it seems to me that there are absolutely against the spirit of the rules when everybody else was making such sacrifices. And again, the bike has to stop at the top. There will be, of course, some listening to thinking, we don't need to lose the prime minister over this, but there are reports today from his own back benches, anonymous reports, I should say, anonymous comments, saying exactly as you have said, that if it is found to be the case, then his position is untenable. There are others, of course, in the cabinet who have joked about these parties, namely Jacob riis mog, the leader of the House. Yes, and he hasn't gone. Yeah, he's appearing in front of MPs today at business questions..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"And the kind of more feminine ones just get two death and spat out. You say quite simply, there are a lot of people around the prime minister who didn't like the idea of a couple of women you're talking about, Carrie Symonds as was, and now, of course, Carrie Johnson, who used to work as a PR in the conservative operation and also referring to a LEGO Stratton. Yeah, there are a couple of women. A couple of people, excuse me, a lot of people around the prime minister who didn't like the idea of a couple of women having so much influence who still don't, which may explain the leak and you go on to say the fact that she's the only member of the team with the balls to take responsibility for this mess shows how wrong they are, aren't they all ashamed of themselves. So it's the operation around the prime minister that still does this to women in your view. I think so, yeah, I'd say so. I'd say it's the operation. I mean, it is just that culture. It's a very, very, very male culture. We will see what happens today, 24 hours is a long time in politics. It also comes at the same time as the government is asking again for there to be more restrictions and for people to follow that. But thank you very much for your insight Sarah. It's a pleasure, Emma. Sarah vine that she mentioned the press a number ten pressed Ed oldfield who is in that leaked video that was leaked to ITV in that interview and the possibility of him resigning. He has not resigned, and we contacted him for his response, but did not receive one. You have been sending us your responses, though, an anonymous one here, Sarah vine absolutely spot on. Why on earth should allegro Stratton take the flat? But Joe says, do not make a victim out of allegro Stratton. We saw her rehearsing lies. She was prepared to tell on behalf of the government. This woman was once a journalist. She was laughing. For Sarah vines come out and make up excuses for her is an insulting as the video for woman's eye to run with that is worse..
Woman's Hour
"nazanin zaghari ratcliffe" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"The thing of her having her face sort of her becoming the sort of face of this disaster, I just felt that was really actually deeply unfair. And I was and I just can't believe that nobody stood up and also took the blame. Do you know what I mean? To just let that just let her just take to be the fall guy for that. And to be the focus of everybody's anger. I mean, of course, people are right to be angry, actually. Completely right to be angry. But you know, to make her the focus, which is what happened when they released that clip. It's just, I just think, really, really below the belt I have to say, I just do. I mean, you say in your piece, she's the only one who had the balls to take responsibility for this mess by resigning. Who else do you think should resign? Well, I mean, if she sketch design, then, you know, that Ed chap, who was asking her the questions in a sort of snarky way. Old field from the media presence. He was asking a snarky question. So, you know, where's him? Where's he? Why hasn't he stood up to the plate? I asked the rest, I don't know. I mean, I had no idea whether he was at this party, he wasn't at this party. I certainly wasn't. There are some absolutely stinging articles though this morning. From papers which are often seen as conservative supporting with carrying reports speaking to conservative MPs, who are saying if the prime minister knew about this party, his position is untenable. Where do you come out on that because you're asking for someone other than a legros Stratton to carry the can? Well, the problem with this whole situation is that the rules were very draconian and everybody was expected to obey by them. And at the time that this was supposedly going on, people were being fined for doing the wrong thing, unwittingly wittingly, whatever, you know, there were people who didn't get to see their dying relatives, people who didn't get to see their, you know, I mean, it was just everybody was struggling with lockdown. And so I think, you know, lawmakers can't be law breakers. That's the problem. And if you are going to I mean, I was very skeptical about lockdown anyway. So, you know, I come from that position, but if you are going to impose these rules and you're going to make people abide by them, I'm afraid you have to set the example. And for me, that's just a sort of line in the sound, really. You of course have had a front row seat to politics in a way that a lot of people do not having lived with a member of this cabinet. Do you think anyone from the cabinet, including the prime minister, should resign over this?.
Bloomberg Daybreak: Europe
Theresa May urges Iran's Hassan Rouhani to free Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe in UN talks
"May's to make a personal pay for the release of a British mother jailed in Iran as she meets with world leaders in New York laser the UK prime minister will sit down with the Iranian president and will raise serious concerns about the detention of Nazanin Zagami Radcliffe she's expected to urge Hasaan Ruhani to free Nazanin on humanitarian grounds