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NPR News: 08-15-2019 5AM ET

NPR News Now

04:58 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 08-15-2019 5AM ET

"Support for n._p._r. And the following message come from american express you want to build your business. They can help build your business with financing solutions for eligible business customers. The powerful backing of american express don't do business without it. Terms apply visit american express dot com slash business live live from n._p._r. News in washington. I'm dave mattingly. A suspect is in custody in pennsylvania after a standoff at a row house in philadelphia that lasted <music> hours and left six police officers wounded none. Seriously police say gunfire erupted when officers tried to serve a drug warrant which then led to a lengthy barricade gate situation to officers remained trapped in the house for about five hours and were eventually freed by a swat team. Here's philadelphia mayor jim kenney that was amazing facing intense a number of hours going back and forth listening to gunshots over the radio <hes> listening to officers whispering upstairs because they didn't want to shoot it to know where they were located needed. Some officers climbed out of windows to escape the gunfire. The suspect was arrested early this morning. President trump is taking his reelection campaign to new hampshire. Sure n._p._r.'s tamra keith says the president will be speaking at a rally in manchester tonight on his first visit to the state this year new hampshire is at the top up of the trump campaign's target list for twenty twenty campaign spokeswoman kaley mcenaney says it is one of a handful of states trump lost in two thousand sixteen that the campaign pain thinks could be winnable so we see these as additional states. I'm not replacement states and and we wanna make that that map in twenty twenty redder her than the map we saw in two thousand sixteen new hampshire also holds the first in the nation democratic primary and has been crawling with candidates so this allows trump to pull the spotlight from the competition. One big question is what if anything he will say about gun related legislation tamra keith n._p._r. News more than two dozen states cities and groups are asking a federal judge to allow them to defend the u._s. Census bureau as n._p._r.'s hansie lo wong reports the suit. It was filed by the state of alabama in an effort to have those in the u._s. Illegally excluded from the twenty two thousand census. The constitution requires a headcount once a decade gate of every person living in the u._s. To determine how seats in congress and electoral college votes are distributed. Those counts have always included. Both citizens and non-citizens regardless carless of immigration status but steve alabama is arguing that the framers of the constitution did not intend for unauthorized immigrants accounted for apportionment new york is now leading a coalition shen of state's counties and cities and asking federal judge to allow them to fight against alabama in court groups including the mexican american legal defense and educational fund have already intervened because because they say they don't trust the trump administration to fully defend the census bureau housi- lelong n._p._r. News new york stocks in asia fell today following wall street sharpest day. Hey of losses this year. The dow dropped eight hundred points where three percent the nasdaq was also off three percent analysts say the selloff was sparked by fears of recession and has the yield on ten year treasury bonds dropped below the yield on short term bonds. This is n._p._r. News from washington talks talks have broken down between the u._s. Women's soccer team and the us soccer federation on pay equity. This comes weeks after the women's team wanted second consecutive world cup title n._p._r.'s. Tom goldman has a gender discrimination lawsuit against the federation. Maybe heading to court the two sides got together in new york this week for secret talks hawks but mediation ended with angry statements a women's national team spokeswoman said it's clear u._s. Soccer fully intends to keep paying women players less than the u._s. Men and the women look forward to a jury trial. A federation spokesman said the women's lawyers were aggressive and unproductive in the talks adding u._s. u._s. Soccer is undaunted in its efforts to continue discussions in good faith last month and women won the world cup and widespread support for their cause u._s. Soccer soccer has pushed back publicly politico reported. The federation hired lobbyists in washington d._c. To take its case to lawmakers. Tom goldman n._p._r. News officials officials in southern california say it will likely cost more than five billion dollars to repair the damage done to naval air weapons station china lake in the aftermath of earthquakes earthquakes that struck the mojave desert last month that figure includes repairs to some buildings and complete replacements for others the u._s. geological survey says one one of the quake had a magnitude of seven point. One dozens of homes were also damaged. A prison riot in northern california has left dozens of inmates injured at least east eight were treated at a hospital officials say none of the guards was hurt. I'm dave mattingly n._p._r. News in washington.

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This Week @NASA, September 20, 2019

NASACast Audio

04:28 min | 1 year ago

This Week @NASA, September 20, 2019

"I lighting Artemis with help from Hollywood preparing to launch to the only laboratory in microgravity and testing new lunar landing technology few of the stories to tell you about this week at NASA NASA provided some technical expertise and imagery for Twentieth Century Fox's new film ad Astra a fictional space thriller starring actor Brad Pitt while the film does not have a NASA storyline. We continued the collaboration leading up to its release by participating in activities to generate awareness about space and our arts program the next step in human exploration. What are the repercussions on your body. In Zero G on September sixteenth pit stop to buy our headquarters for space to ground question and answer session with astronaut Nick Aig they talked about a number of topics vicks including the work being done on the International Space Station. Some of the experiments were doing here our technology demonstrations to prove out a concept that we hope to apply as we go back to the moon as part of the optimist program in early. September we hosted pit during a tour of our Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena California. He received a boarding pass as part of the Mars Twenty Twenty Rover Missions Center name to Mars campaign. That mission is scheduled to launch next summer. We also also participated in red carpet events with pit and other cast members of the film which presented opportunities to not only highlight our efforts to return humans to the moon by twenty twenty four but to also explain why we're not just going to stay at the moon that we're developing the capability for an eventual mission to Mars. Human physiology is a big piece of that and we gotta to make sure we get that right for everybody to be saying. This is a really excitement for the possibilities where we can learn about beyond can learn about ourselves yourselves films like this contribute to that you can learn more about artists and armone to Mars exploration approach at NASA dot Gov Slash Artemis the next crew headed to the International Space Station including our Jessica. Mir is conducting final training for its upcoming launch at the bike cosmodrome Roman Catholics dumb mirror all extra poach of roscosmos and spaceflight participant Hussan. Ali Pur of the United Arab Emirates are scheduled to launch to to the station on September twenty fifth our flight opportunities game changing development programs supported attest near Armstrong Flight Research Center here in California of a developmental vision aided terrain relative navigation system the system could help a future lunar lander targeted desired landing location and know exactly where it is by using a camera and preloaded satellite maps that include unique terrain features this was the first test of the system with both a descent altitude and a landing trajectory similar to what is expected on a lunar mission a high speed rocket sled tests that California's Naval Naval air weapons station China Lake was used to test a new landy technology designed to avoid hazards and help perform extremely safe and precise landings is on planetary surfaces. The technology which is being developed by are Langley Research Center uses laser beams reflected off the ground to help a sensor provide ultra precise is measurements that identify exactly how high are human or robotic lander is and how fast food is traveling. NASA has been recognized for Arabia award-winning coverage of two space missions team multimedia coverage of demonstration mission one by our Kennedy Space Center Johnson Space Center and Commercial Partner SPACEX A-6 won an Emmy in the category of Outstanding Interactive Program the March Twenty. One thousand nine mission was an UN- crew test flight of Space Excess Crew Dragon spacecraft grabbed to the International Space Station. Meanwhile an emmy also went to our jet propulsion laboratory and the outstanding original interactive program category for coverage including leading news web education television and social media efforts of Nassau's insight mission to Mars which launched in May twenty eighteen congratulations to all for well-deserved honors. That's what's up this week at NASA for more on these and other stories follow us on the web at massive dot Gov Slash Thuan John.

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NPR News: 08-01-2019 6AM ET

NPR News Now

04:56 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 08-01-2019 6AM ET

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from Google from Connecticut to California from Mississippi to Minnesota. Millions of businesses are using Google tools to grow. Oh online learn how Google is supporting businesses in your state at Google dot com slash economic impact live from N._p._R. News in Washington tonight. I'm Korva Coleman on night two of the second democratic debate on C._N._N. presidential candidates traded jabs over healthcare policy. N._P._R.'s Daniel Kurt Slaven reports reports unlike Tuesday night the Wednesday evening exchange didn't focus as much on singer rather single payer healthcare a few candidates on stage like New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New Jersey Senator Corey Booker have backed Senator Bernie Sanders single payer Medicare for all proposal. However much of the healthcare debate happened between mean former Vice President Joe Biden and California Senator Kamala Harris Biden backs a public plan Harris meanwhile envisions a system somewhat like current Medicare in in which many people enrolling government insurance but some choose private insurance plans the presence of Medicare for all in these debates signifies a major shift among Democrats some Democrats wanted but couldn't get a public option as a part of obamacare just a decade ago Daniel Kurtz Laban N._P._r. News members of a Special House House Committee on Climate Change are in Boulder Colorado today for member station K. U._N._C. Matt Bloom reports. This is the first in a series of hearings being held across the country. The House created the select committee on the climate crisis this year it's charged with delivering Federal Policy Recommendations to reduce carbon pollution and and slowing the rise of average global temperatures. This first field hearing will feature two panels. The first is Colorado Governor and former Congressman Jared Polis. The second will include local officials in the C._E._O. Of A hydraulic fracturing company earlier this year Colorado set itself a goal of cutting nearly all its greenhouse gas emissions by twenty fifty. It's one of a growing number of states making similar pledges including California and New York. The climate crisis committee will be taking input from around the country with the goal of publishing recommendations early next year for N._p._R. News. I'm Matt Bloom in Greeley Colorado. The Federal Reserve has cut a key interest rate by a quarter of a percentage point. N._P._R.'s Jim Zarroli reports that it's the first time the Fed has reduced rates since the financial crisis the Fed issued a statement saying that with inflation and low and the economy slowing abroad. It's cutting its benchmark interest rate by a quarter percent. <hes> the move is aimed at stimulating growth and keeping the economy from slowing slowing any further the Fed is also saying that it may cut rates again in the future they say they will monitor ongoing developments and take action as appropriate. N._p._R.'s R.'s Jim Zarroli Lane News reports say the government of Rwanda has closed its western border with Democratic Republic of Congo. This is over new cases of Ebola in the the Congolese border city of Goma home more than two million people. The World Health Organization has deemed the outbreak a rare global emergency but the agency has urged other nations to keep their borders open. You're listening to N._P._R. News the Senate has confirmed Kelly craft after the next U._S. Ambassador to the United Nations the Senate vote was fifty six to thirty four mostly along party lines. Kraft is the current U._S. Ambassador to Canada she. She says she will recuse herself from any U._N. Talks on issues involving coal because your spouse is a coal industry executive. Iran's foreign minister is brushing off off the latest U._S. economic sanctions though they target him personally. N._p._R.'s Michelle Kellerman reports on how Mohammad Javad Zarif ended up on a U._S. blacklist. I Secretary of State. Mike Bombayo describes his Iranian counterpart as a key enabler of Iran's de stabilising policies for years. He says Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif has been a senior regime official and apologised responding on twitter's Arief says the sanctions will have no effect on him and his family as he has no property the or interests outside of Iran his tweet ads. Thank you for considering me such a huge threat to your agenda. Sirri was an architect of the Iran nuclear deal. All the trump administration pulled out but says it wants to negotiate a new agreement even as it's been ramping up sanctions and trying to isolate Iran diplomatically Michelle Michelle Kellerman N._p._R. News Washington investigators are still looking for the pilot of a U._S. fighter jet that crashed Wednesday in California's death valley seven <unk> bystanders received minor injuries in the accident teams of scoured the site several miles away from naval air weapons station at China Lake. It's an area where tourists it's come to watch. Fighter jet pilots practice low flying maneuvers. I'm Korva Coleman N._P._R. News.

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Taking the EMP Threat Seriously | 4/1/19

Pat Gray Unleashed

1:37:35 hr | 1 year ago

Taking the EMP Threat Seriously | 4/1/19

"Great is here on the please radio network. Sorry to shut up Belka there. He did he think he was just gonna. Yeah. Go right into the next show. Guys, always play by man got a clock to respect. What are you doing? He just started. Another interview somebody fifteen seconds before the show was over poor planning, Mike. To say he's only been doing it for forty years. Give us give it chance to kind of get his feet wet. Yeah. Okay. That's great. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three. Welcome to Monday. Let me start out by just taking sixty seconds to tell you about something that could change your life. It's called reduce own. You've been hearing talk about this. What are you waiting for try it? This was a product launched by a local company that produced a metabolite of olive oil. It took the molecule out of it and created something that just helps speed up your metabolism and control your appetite. Those two things are going to help you lose weight. To patented ingredient. It's been shown to do the things that claims, and you've probably seen Sarah Gonzales, who is really excellent proof of how well this works. She looks great after losing a hundred pounds ten or fifteen years ago. She's been able to keep it off with the help of reduce own and just because you listen to the show we're going to give you thirty percent off when you go to radio dot com. R I D U Z O N E dot com. Enter the promo code, Pat and you'll get thirty percent off at three months apply. It's Reggie's own dot com. Gray. Good thing. There's crisis at the border. I'm really glad that the Democrats have let us know that we don't need to worry about anything. It's business as usual. Everything's fine. Don't worry about it. Good news Monday. Yeah. Because I wasn't in the impression that there was something going on. So it was I know really a relief to find out. No, nothing. It is so bad that many Texas cities are the mayor of macallan, for instance, city manager, I guess is what he is ROY Rodriguez said it's staggering really we've never seen anything like this before. Their their shelter. The Catholic charities humanitarian respite centre macallan is used to handling about two to three hundred people a day. That's pretty much. What what it's been like for years. It's utter clip of eight hundred a day right now. Almost you know, three or four times what it normally is. And they they're so packed that just keep releasing people into the interior of the country come back in and sometimes it's years later come back at twenty twenty one. We'll have a hearing. Sure. I mean, you're gonna come back in twenty twenty one. No, nobody's going back in twenty twenty one or next week for that matter. Nobody. Boy, it's so bad the President Trump threatened to close the border, and I don't I don't know how you do that with the trade we've got going. I mean, there's thousands of trucks a week that go back and forth across the border. You're gonna shut off all that commerce. Or Glenn might say Camara's. Are you gonna shut off that commerce commerce is a big deal? You don't want to be messing. You don't wanna mess with commerce? You don't want to or the chamber of commerce as well. No, they're Dudley as well. So. Things are really difficult at the border and we just keep sending the wrong signal. Well, the president doesn't he's trying desperately to send the right signal. The you know, the threat to close off the border. I don't know how you can back that up, but he's also cut aid now to Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. And blasted those three countries for sending migrants to the United States because you know, don't be ridiculous. Of course, they're the governments are involved in this. They help arrange all these things. They help organize the caravans and said him on their way. You know, there's fifteen twenty thousand less people we have to worry about in feed. Send them to the US US can do it richest nation in the world. The oldest let them take care of it. Well, eventually that's going to lead to disaster. We cannot take on this entire burden. It's just it's impossible. It's impossible and the Democrats. I don't understand how they don't get that. You're just you're going to take care of everybody. Why don't you send all three billion people below the poverty line in this country to the United States? Let's just get it all over with. At least, you know, what happened a little quicker, and we don't have to watch it slowly dissolve over time rip the band aid. Yep. This tear the band aid right off let the bleeding occur. And then you're done finally done. So this is just it's crazy. At a rally on the border in El Paso, Beto denounce Trump's immigration policies. Of course as the politics of fear in division. I'm getting so sick and tired of this State Department spokesman said in a statement that it was carrying out Trump's directive by ending aid programs to the three Central American nations known as the northern triangle. The department said it would engage congress in the process and apparent acknowledgement that it will need lawmaker approval to end funding. Yeah. Because congress controls the purse strings. And it would be about seven hundred million that we would save. I love the story about that. Oh in his little rally at the border. It said, okay. So they often interrupted him to chances first name bad. Oh, not which by the way, isn't his first name should have been Robert Francis. Robert francis. Yes, it should have. But the chimes in Mr. Aurora also spoke at length in his native Spanish. Associated Press Spanish is not as native tongue that is. Unreal. I mean, even the fell for it of its so affective this bell thing is so affective that it's unbelievable Mistral Rourke also spoke at length in his native Spanish eliciting loud and sustained cheers, not as Irish brogue. No. Oh. Just ridiculous. He's not Spanish, he's not Hispanic, and that's not as native tongue. Wow. Does he speak fluent Spanish? Yes. He does. But it's not as native tongue. Wow. It's just so ridiculous. How how does how does he Associated Press not understand that they don't care so bad journalism in this country right now is just dead. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three and Pat unleashed on Twitter. Also, some weird things over the weekend with Jake tapper talking to Mick, Mulvaney, and Mulvaney attacks CNN and the media over its coverage of special counsel, Robert Muller's investigation. Everybody's been. I mean, everybody knows CNN was so ridiculous on this. But tapper well, watch this and see what tapper out. Now, we talk about tapper all the time and defend him all the time. I don't know there's any defense on this one. President Trump has previously said he wants the public to see the Malla report. But here's what he tweeted on Friday. Help us understand this quote. The problem is no matter what the radical left democrat. Democrats get no matter what we give them. It will never be enough. Just watch they will harass and complain resist the of their movement. So maybe we should just take our victory and saying no, we've got a country to run when the president says, no they're in that tweet suggesting that the full report should not be released Jake morning. Thanks for much for having me on the Sunday morning of don't take the president at his word that it is. It is time to sort of work on policy. Yes, we need to figure out what went wrong with the mother report. Why all fairness to to your network why the media got it so wrong for so long. But it is time to talk about healthcare. It is time to talk about trade. It is tied to talk about other things while at the same time talking about why it came down the way that it did it was so thorough and yet so accurate. How did the media get it so wrong? I think the president's. Just venting the same frustration a lot of people had when the mullahs report came out, and it turned out exactly like he said that it would. So now as usual, you take the president at his words and his tweets he wants it released. But I'm not sure what you're saying. The media got wrong with the media reported. What would the investigation was going on? I other than the people in the media on the left not on this now work. I don't know anybody who got anything wrong. We didn't say that. There was conspiracy. We said the mother was investigating conspiracy. That's fine. That that's that's your recollection of history. That's great face. Come on the media. Got this wrong, Jake. It's okay. People get stuff wrong all the time. Just not at this level of. But it's done. Now. The report is there. It's extraordinarily thorough as you know, what they talked to five hundred people issued twenty eight hundred subpoenas and it completely exonerates the president. There's no collusion. There's no obstruction of Justice. Have you read president said it was not neither of you. I've read no our summary, which is what everybody else is Red Eye. But you're making statements there that I you know, I don't. What the report says? And I was just asking are we going to see them all the report there were in addition to all those interviews you talked about dozens of indictments including jail time for people close to the president. Well. Chris Cuomo for one said there was a ton of evidence of Russian collusion all through that network. People were using that line. They talked many times about the evidence that they knew of supposedly from some leaks or whatever from the Muller investigation. And none of that turned out to be true. What you nobody here setting. That's just that's asinine. You got your head buried in the sand. If you didn't see anybody on CNN make outrageous claims about the mullahs report. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three also some some weekend tweets to share in terms of overall tweeted not hearing the laugh track enough these days. Well. Well. Problem song. The studio audience that was really funny. Yeah. So from what do you mean laugh track that would assume that it's recorded national studio right here. Pat's garbage Qatar Rhody tweets. I'd Pat problems of Boll weevils getting into his stored oats once. But I thought he and Keith might want one of these. Oh, it's a bull weevils are back. Oh, it's a cat night in a minor league team. Oh, I want one of those. Yeah. Wow. Boll weevils cap. Okay. Would you wear a bolt weevils kept probably not. But that's great. I'm glad you would sure I wear anything that covers up the bald spot from dad Bod is it true. Pat plays guitar intro on his show. No should play live one day. So that's not you that's done. But that would be cool. That would be it's gonna jam for some time. Yeah. Yeah. Well song live. We'll see how well that worked last time. So I wouldn't a hold your breath. You never know when when our system's gonna crash, and we don't have access to the song be prepared. That instance, from Robert. This from something mentioned late last week about my former boss. Dude, you need to be more magazine. Dude love you can. We actually do love can he's awesome Magoni, but he was wrong about the magazine thing. Dude. It just is what it is you need to be more magazine. Okay. We need more psychics. What about the pets? Ikic? She's really good do and classic rock bumpers all the times. Only classic rock bumpers. All right. Also, the Jason app tweets question for my fellow Pat heads, let's say I'm on a I'm in a foreign country listening diligently to the Pat gray unleashed and playing the best bingo ever if I get Bengo can I win via Twitter since I can't call in. I got to say, no one knows. We might not see it in time. Yeah. No. You know, it's too hard. It's too hard to give it away on Twitter because then we need. We also need your information to where to send the prize and speaking of Bengal, by the way, we've got a brand new brand new bingo card beginning again today. Obviously. And it starts her left hand quarter with search engine it. Then Keith place egg timbering. Well, Pat, sings one one thousand twenty-fourth mentioned. Jeffy, we got it. Bat crept crazy helium voice. But shine, Bobby. That's that's Robert Francis or rooks, right? Right. But that in your pipe whether weirding murder patrol instead of border patrol because that's what they are. We know that there are killing people at the border senselessly and just for fun mentioned pets sharpies. Good morning. This morning. You look like an idiot off from our arthritic. Eko babes are. I don't know if it's college e if it's transcendental meditation, existential ISM something creepy, though, the Mormon mafia there's a nub. Eight seven five three oh nine taking mom to deep throat that shouldn't be tough to to get covered. Volkswagen in utero, creepy uncle Joe. We'll be talking about that today. I'm sure yes. Keith complains about yard work. Keith good grief. I say good grief quite a bit. I guess stop it. Oh, yeah. Tree cameo by Stu, Canadian sports, celebrity are just making small talk and over that over the finish off the guard over that. All right, triple eight nine hundred and by the way, those count because we're just reviewing a tough week that looks difficult. Okay. So a Georgia man was fatally shot. This is not a good idea. Kids. Don't try this at home. He was debating with a friend the twenty one foot rule that's a self defense tactic. Investigators said he apparently wanted to show his friend the ad twenty one feet. He could get you before you shot him. And apparently, he was incorrect. Richard, spike. Oh, thirty four and Spencer warrant twenty nine. Meaning they should've known better than this. Debating over how close by Kel could get before Warren could fire his gun under conditions of the tool or drill. Which says it takes one and a half seconds for an attacker to cover twenty one feet the same amount of time. It takes to draw and fire a weapon. Now, if you're going to test this out, you might think you adjust use a blank, you know, I don't know a paint gun or or nothing at all an air soft gun. I mean, no they used an actual three fifty seven with a bullet in it. When spike oh came toward Warren, Warren fired his three fifty seven revolver twice striking him once in the chest. He was arrested charged with involuntary manslaughter possession of a firearm during commission of a crime good, gosh, dopey stupidly is. Really? There is a way you could have done this. And just you know, I target pro. Thank you. It comes to the laser instead of the bullet. So that you can fired inside your house, and you won't be killing people. That's the way I like the role, and hopefully you do to not only not only. No, but no-one get killed. But you also save a lot of money because you don't have to buy all of the ammo. I target pro comes completely with everything you need the caliber specifically's or the targeting system and instruction. So you can start training right away. Do this all in your house? The laser detects where you hit. The target in. So you don't need bullets here and save your money, and it's really safe, and it's really convenient. And it's a lot of fun. So this month, you can get ten percent off plus free shipping. When you use the offer code Pat to purchase the I target pro system. Save money. Save time. Do this all safely by taking your skill to the next level with dry firing? It's really the way to go. The letter. I then target pro dot com. Offer code, Pat. I target pro dot com. Pat, Greg on me. The stupidity of thirty year old men. Hey, I'm gonna come at you from twenty one feet. See if you can draw and fire at me and kill me before I get to you. Okay. Does it where where were they from again? Oh, Georgia Georgia. Geez. Doing homestate proud. Wow. Good way to go. Usually that kind of stuff happens in Florida. That's true. You can kind of understand it. Well, it was Florida. Are you gonna do? Really? That's sad. So senseless that was such a waste, really bad. They'll try that at home kids triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three and it Pat unleashed on Twitter. Jussie smollet attorney contributed money to Kim FOX campaign. She was the person the one who she's state's attorney dropped the charges. I'm sure it's total coincidence said one had nothing to do with the other. Are you don't even know why I don't even know why the stories out like that's weird. Yeah. Brown homes donated two hundred fifty dollars to friends for FOX in December of two thousand eighteen thousand and twenty fifteen. Okay. So it was a while ago. Just as quickly as jussie smollet left court leaving behind sixteen felony counts. Mayor Rahm Emanuel since Maleta Bill for the overtime down to the very last penny. I love that is funny. And it was what one hundred thirty thousand dollars smollet has until Thursday to pay. And if it's not on time under municipal code the city can go after him in civil court for up to three times the damages. I wonder if they really will could pretty awesome. He could do nothing. He could pay the hundred and thirty thousand or you could just say to lawyers. We're gonna fight this. Okay. So rum manual immediately in the aftermath of this was really good. And you kind of wondered we'll while that's weird Wisey acting like that why see making sense all of a sudden, right? This character for roms never made sense before. Why's Why's he making sense on this? Well, it stopped. I'm sure he heard from his democrat friends. Yeah. Yeah. Or sabes eighty four point in when your listeners we lost him. Yeah. We had thrown for like five minutes. We lost didn't last because now he's blaming Trump for jussie smollet, faking attack bleeding Trump for it. I this should be interesting. Here's what he said. Look, I've always said from day one. This is Trump free zone the city Chicago. And I mean, let me be really clear about something. Jesse small thought he could take advantage of a hoax about a hate crime is for the environment, the toxic environment that Donald Trump created oh shit. Drew a moral equivalency between people who are trying to perpetuate bigotry, and those who are trying to fight bigotry as somebody who started his own journey on politics fighting the Neo Nazis in Skokie and then down to market part. President Trump should literally take politics move, it aside, he's created a toxic environment. Now, he's created toxic vicious cycle. Toxic visuals. Jesse small thought he could get away with this hoax about a hate crime rate because the environment. President Trump created is that right? We can go back to Jinya. I said, and I quote, there are good people on both sides. Well, let me break the news to the president are not good people on both side people who perpetuate advance the causes of hate. I say this as a Jewish American. Who knows? What that means wasn't me. Tell us my recommendations the president go to opening day baseball, sit on the sideline stay out of this. You created a toxic environment and all of us who are trying to make sure that we share a common set of values that embrace and welcome people of all walks of life and backgrounds. That's about your garbage. She's was that lame. Oh my gosh. That was so obvious that he's trying desperately Dell to back off the protected species that jussie smollet is. And then instead turn this around on the white guy president, that's pathetic, sad and totally and completely pathetic. That's agonizing. He created the environment. Like, there's there was no there was no problem before Trump at all. And now all of a sudden. It's all coming out. Now, they continually go back to the Charlottesville demonstration where he said that you know, there were bad people on both sides or good people on both sides. If you would go back and understand what Trump was talking about. Any was talking about the people that were there from the left from the anti fascist the antifa people. That's what we was talking about those were bad people. They've proven it over and over and over again there. Also, people be signs be signed the the Neo Nazis on the right that were there, and they might have been good people. I don't know the Neo Nazis. Probably weren't. But there were people there who were opposed to antifa that we're fine that we're not involved in the other nonsense the standard for the right in the left in this country. You say something that could be possibly ambiguous. And they're on the right? Yeah. That's it. You're branded for life and it over and over and over the Bill back to that quote. And if it's something agreed and you're on the left. Well, whatever you're fine. Do I wish you wouldn't have set it that way? Yes. But we all know doesn't say things expertly, even though he has the best words he told us a long time ago. He's got the best words. He just doesn't know how to use them. At least not in the proper order. If you could only say them one at a time, it doesn't help that much. So. Man. But it is frustrating to listen to that. Wow. And what a one eighty from that guy. When before he was blaming the right person jussie smollet who perpetrated a hoax now all of a sudden, it's not him. It's the president of the United States. I'll come on come that. I mean, it's just it's revolting and it's despicable. But that's more of what we've come to expect from Roma manual, so I guess universes back to its proper order. Yeah. She's I mean, it's so bad from the left. This is how bad it is President Trump is starting to take some steps that presidents thirty years ago should have been taking. Because there's been a threat of electromagnetic pulse attacks, and if it ever happens, it is gonna be the death of this nation. And EMP could wipe out a hundred million people within a year. According to the Pentagon. Maybe more than that it could wipe out half the population. It's it is something that fries all electron IX. And we've done nothing to protect ourselves from this. When the estimates were like, I mean to you and me it'd be like a dollar fifty heads going to be a dollar fifty. If you wanna protect your household against some kind of really catastrophic attack you willing to spend a dollar fifty no dollar fifty a full dollar. Yeah. Which you take a button? Nope. No, I won't. It was like I think the initial estimate was two billion dollars. If it's twice if it's ten times that let's say it's twenty billion. It's worth doing. You should we should always have been preparing for an EMP and to safeguard that. It. It's not that difficult, but an MP would knock out power electron IX computers would knock out cell phones. It would it would fry the infrastructure of the military. So President Trump ordered he issued an executive order directing federal government to take some action to foster sustainable, efficient and cost effective approaches to improving the nation's resilience to the effects of amperes. The order states that the government quote, shelling gauge in risk informed, planning prioritized, research and development to address the needs of critical infrastructure stakeholders and for adversary ll threats consultant telling community assessments, I mean completely prudent and necessary. Well, the Washington Post got a hold of it, and we'll share their thoughts and just a minute. Unbelievable stuff. Unbelievable. When was the last time, though, you had your ears professionally cleaned if ever if they it or you've got some pain there or they feel plugged up. And when you speak it feels like you're talking tunnel, if any of this sounds familiar, you could be like millions of Americans who visit the doctor to have their ears, professionally cleaned. 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Just I mean to think twenty years ago, we would have been doing stories about the, you know, they're one hundred ninety seven official genders now really they've decided that yes what they've decided. You would say. Hey, full. Hey, check it out target. Said that dude's can use the bathroom the women's bathroom. Oh. Yeah. It's just it's ridiculous. From Bob, blah, blah, love, the, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Beddoes Spanish origins, have a particular genus o'clo-, or, you know, maybe in Spanish Nola say. From JJ Herman. Congressman Hank Johnson says the earth will tip over if the illegal immigrants keep coming into the country. Wish you would believe that. Maybe we could get some action from the Democrats then Biden gaffes twenty twenty tweets arguing over twenty one foot rule resulting in a death. This story is brought to us by bourbon and bad decisions. All right. Don't throw bourbon under the bus. Anthony, John one seventy one is Chicago Trump free zone, or is it mega country, make up your mind, Chicago. In terms of like, such as rum manual is back at this time piece paste keystone pig. Don't call yourself American referred a baseball having sidelines due RAV Emmanuel it's opening day. Trump's stay. Boys. Got it. There could tell where Barack Obama gun is sports lingo from his buddy Rahm. She's so ridiculous. All right. We were telling you about the President Trump taking the very prudent steps, I I can't believe nobody's done this in the past to try to protect the nation from any potential EMP attack. Anybody almost anybody can do this. Iran can do this North Korea is capable and of course, the Russians the Chinese any number of foes could carry out an EMP attack. So the president is saying we need to fortify against it and protect our infrastructure, and you could do it fairly easily. It was it was estimated to cost two billion dollars back in two thousand eight two billion. And we've been talking about this as a nation for fifty six years. Now, believable fifty six years and we've done nothing about it. And nothing billion dollars to protect your country. That is a bargain, it's drop in the book. I mean, but then how you're gonna fund like, you know, murdering babies through plan, right hood. And like, you know, well, you still do it can still do that studies that studying the mating habits of shrimp? You still could could what about like the top notch healthcare for congressman? Yeah, you see a little you can do all that. Yeah. You still could. Okay. You don't responding in in defense budget this year seven hundred and fifty billion dollars seven hundred fifty billion two billion of that couldn't be to protect us right in our infrastructure and all of our electronics and computers and cell phone usage in everything shuts down everything. So the Washington Post puts an article Oude that they call an analysis piece. They're analyzing what President Trump said. And it started out by pointing out that the EMP is part of the plot in a JAMES BOND movie. Okay. So I guess that means it can't happen in real life. President Trump leaves the danger of EMP is not just a Hollywood plot device goes on to discuss the complications in deterrence against a military use of EMP against the US, including that it would involve a potential nuclear retaliation from the United States. Right. Not if we can't fire any nuclear retaliation dummies. If it fries are circuits, you're not firing any missiles at anybody. That's the problem. Just wait until they get closer. And you just love it at them. Just heave it. That's that's what you'd have to do. If you fry all of our circuits that includes the military circuit. They're not they're not immune from this attack. How do you think we're going to launch missiles if we don't have electron IX, just asinine? This is just asinine the article addresses, the idea of terrorist EMP attack by saying that most governments have reasons not to give nuclear weapons to terrorists. And that if a terrorist had a nuclear weapon would they really use it though. Oddly. It goes on to say that there's the real threat of an electronic electro-magnetic disruption from nature. Right. The sun can do this too. But what they don't point out in the article is that the executive order expressly lists that danger from the sun. The naturally occurring pulses among the rationale for hardening and modernizing the infrastructure it conceded that working to better understand the hazards hazards involved, which is again expressly the purpose of the order is worth pursuing will Trump's executive order help. Accomplish this desk, perhaps the answer. But the burden of proof remains on the administration to demonstrate whether taxpayer dollars invested in resilience are worth taking away from other national policy priorities. It doesn't list what the other policy priorities are. But judging by the tone. I'm sure they're talking about, you know, the green new deal or something else from the Alexandria Cossio Cortez which wishlist. What ridiculous and? Irresponsible article. Oh, is this where democracy dies in darkness is the same folks bringing that right? And this is that there's four people that wrote this article, and it wasn't just some rogue writer. You know, four people had to agree to this was a good idea. But you read this one line that I just can't get over in. If by some small chance terrorists managed to acquire such technology would they really risk it on a relatively untested concept their terrorist mad. They don't care what they think works. They love it. They can rejoice if it fails than oh, well, at least we scared them enough to get our way next time, they try to shoe bomb that didn't work. They tore down twin towers one hundred and ten stories tall and our most populous city with two airplanes. Of course, they're going to try crap. Like that wa PO it's unbelievable. Oh my gosh. I mean, I don't know that responsible. This read a more irresponsible article than that why wouldn't into billion dollars. Let's say it's double or triple der- quintupled since two thousand eight so what that's not worth ten billion dollars twenty billion dollars fifty billion. I would spend whatever it takes to protect our infrastructure against EMP, whatever it takes. That's unbelievable. The left constantly rails against how much we spend on defense. And you just said seven hundred and fifty billion. That's what we're spending this year. Okay. Tell you. What can we come together? How about this left will deduct that from the military budget for fiscal twenty nineteen twenty twenty. If you give us that money for a wall in for EMP protection. You good for that. Or? No, you still wanna let us be exposed to the rest of the world awesome. They would never go for that. No. They wouldn't just no they wouldn't happy April Fool's day. Again. That's why you don't do if this is more insane than any April. Fools joke. Could be talking about today. It's just it's unbelievable. Really amazing. Let me tell you about home tied. Here's another thing that why would you protect yourself again. I mean, this is silly. What if what if it doesn't happen to anybody gets on online steals your your title? And then takes out a loan transfers, the title to another document, and then forges your signature what what are the odds, I say if there's any chance that can happen. And there is and it's a pretty good chance. 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That's a bad sign lady repeat if they get close enough to air and then on time demonstrate that they're smelling your hair. That's when you give an elbow to the face. It's just Jobe Joe he proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. Do see like the taste of hairspray. What's going on there? My brain couldn't process. What was happening? I was in Paris. I was shocked. I was confused. I couldn't move. And I couldn't say anything I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from. My name was called. And I was never happier to get on stage in front of an audience. Biden has long had this reputation of being a little overly familiar with. In maybe most notably. When he massaged this shoulders of new Defense Secretary ash Carter's wife into thousand fifteen remember that there was the biker chick in the bar that he had sit on his lap. And he was whispering stuff in her ear that was creepy. Too little there was a little little girl that he was handling, and it just creepy. It's just gross never ends with this guy. But Biden's behavior is now getting more at tension in this metoo era, and her accusation could further heighten, the scrutiny it makes you wonder will he get into the race now because he could get a lot more of this. You want any of that? Vice president Biden was pleased to support yours from his people, of course, pleased to support Lucy Florez candidacy for Lieutenant governor of Nevada in two thousand fourteen to speak on her behalf at a well attended public event. Neither then nor in the year since did he or the staff with him at the time have an inkling the MS floors had been at anytime uncomfortable, nor do they recall what she describes. But vice president Biden believes that MS Florez has every right to share. Here's where the liberal. Pandering has to come in. She has every right to share her own recollection and reflections. He's gonna listen respectfully, he said. Wow. And that it's a change for the better in our society that she has the opportunity to do. So I think women have always had the opportunity could have done this at anytime. He respects MS Flora's mrfloor as as a strong, independent voice in our politics in wishes her only the best. No bet. Wow. I tell you. I I think Joe's miss the boat for multiple reasons. Now, he's old. He's white. And he's post me to he can't get away with this stuff anymore. He missed his opportunity. That's it's possible. Yeah. Now, I would not be surprised if he didn't run. Yeah. I know this. This does cast even more doubt on all of it. Now, he came out and said he's he believes he has never acted inappropriately toward women. But again will quote, listen respectfully to suggestions that he did. Sogeti? What does that mean? You could suggest that you violated. I'll listen. It's a weird world that this is a weird world. He's deciding of course, make it up as his mind is to whether or not he wants to run this might sway him not to because he's got to be thinking in the back of his mind. I've done this a million times lucky, you know, so five kind of under the radar people. So far Joe being Joe? Yeah. Not any more can retire with my my pension, or whatever my government checks going to keep coming for being the VP. I got a couple of homes. I got a really nice vacation home that's worth two million. My own home is worth about two million now sitting pretty how many how many other women are out there that haven't come forward a ton. And that's I mean, that's what he's got contemplating right now. And we're about to find out if Joe would rather protect himself going forward, or if his ego is that big, right? So we're gonna find out real soon is this worth putting Jill through this. We'll see. He said it might many years on the campaign trail, Andy public life. I've offered countless handshakes hugs expressions of affection back massagers support and comfort and not once never did. I believe I acted inappropriately. And that that's the problem, right and appropriate right week. If it suggested I did. So I will listen respectfully, but it was never my intention. Everybody says that when asked you to sleep with me, it wasn't my intention for that to be an appropriate. I thought that was totally appropriate. When I was licking your neck. I thought that was completely fine. I what I smelled your hair. And then I looked your neck. I what is wrong with place you on my lap. That was fine. Right this fine. What I felt you up. I thought I thought that was kind of a mutual feeling. I was sensitive certain Genucel clock between us. Never my intention. That's a bad excuse my goodness. This guy. So. Does does he take the chance now that he's just known as creepy? Uncle Joe now from now on and get into this race where he's going to get a lot more of this. You know, there's other women out there who will say the same thing. Now this. The woman that everybody talks about where he got real friendly with a with a Defense Secretary ash Carter wife is she says that that wasn't appropriate or it wasn't inappropriate was fine with that. Oh, wow. Look fine with that. When it was opening apparently, she saying, yeah, I was that was just friend a friend giving me support on a big day. Okay. So she's with him. And maybe that's enough. Maybe maybe that gives them the confidence to go forward that a lot of these women are going to call him out because they're all Democrats. And I gotta be honest. I was kind of kind of sick and twisted way looking forward to the actual boxing match between Trump and Biden at one of the debates. I mean. I mean if ever there could if physical altercation between two candidates, it would be those two. Yeah. But yeah, let's see. We'll see. We'll see it's dangerous territory for him. It really is. And with Flora's speaking out. She came out and said, well, yeah, he doesn't think it's appropriate. Inappropriate. He that's he's comfortable and used to acting like. Oh, yeah. And he's always does away with it. Of course, he thinks it's fine. It's a good point. It's a good point. He's in Bolden every time. Someone doesn't say something. So thank you Lucy. Flora's for someone saying something I felt two hands on my shoulders froze. Why's the vice president of the United States touching me he proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head? Claim he is creepy and then drinking in the smell of her hair. He's got a thing with that. Because I've seen him do that. I don't know. How many times he comes from behind? Yes. Yes. Creep over and over and over again, we've seen creepy uncle Joe do this cut of stuff. That's true. It is triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three. More Packer leash coming up. 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You can't in the documentary Coyote versus roadrunner, you simply light the fuse. Oh, so you can also then showed the way. Okay. Like views Piltdown posse tweets. Everything has gone back to normal. There are only two genders April. You. Yes. That's the only go is the only thing outrageous knows to go back to the way the world makes sense that it's like, oh, right. Psych I've sheen. Hernia tweets Joe's gonna offer to what a listen to her tour. And what festival seating on his lap? Yeah. I like that nobody better than creepy. Joe, frankly, nobody better. So. Georgia by the way past their heartbeat. Bill. They've been contemplating a heartbeat. Bill antiabortion Bill if you can hear the heartbeat. It's too late. You're not getting an abortion. More than forty Hollywood. Celebrities, of course, signed a letter to the Georgia house speaker, David Rolston and Georgia governor Brian Kemp last week saying they'll push TV and film production companies to abandon Georgia. If the heartbeat abortion Bill is signed into law. Go ahead, you stink. And I think they are so important they do. But Georgia gave the finger and said, yeah, we're we're doing this. Anyway. Among those who signed the letter Alec Baldwin, duh, Amy Schumer Gabriel union union. Rosie O'Donnell Patton Oswald, all the usual. Sarah silverman. Essence at kuenz, ozo- ado, Bah, who's that? Starting to run idea, Christina Applegate. I know that. Okay. Ben Stiller, Sean Penn. Don, Cheadle, Mia Farrow, Colin Hanks, Bradley Whitford, amber Tamblyn. Of course. Eliza Milano made a pro protest comment on Twitter last Friday. Oh, yeah. She's the one that started this mess, and is about fifty celebrities, and you've read all the names on there that anyone would recognize so and none of them are registered voters in Georgia. So far as I know, so nobody cares. What you think? Sorry, take it productions elsewhere. If you want to whatever. We need to save lives. Yeah. That's that's good news coming out of Georgia. And really good news. Good news around the nation as it relates to abortion as well. This thing is going the other way. Now most cases thank heaven. Why I think it's because we've decided to stop ignoring it, then and talk about it again and fight for life. So Ojo defunding Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry. And of course, the sixth circuit court of appeals jumped in. Because a lower court ruling upheld a twenty sixteen Ohio law that rerouted approximately one point three million in state funding from abortion fits facilities, like Planned Parenthood to federally qualified health centers. So lower court said, no you can't do that. And then the six circuit court of appeals overturned that and said, yes, it can awesome. Why wouldn't they be be able to? I mean, that's the stats. Crazy state can decide what they wanna fund exactly Ohio couldn't stop federal funding from coming in that. They don't have the right to do, but they can stop their own funds. And fortunately, the six circuit court of appeals agreed with them Pryke private organizations. Do not have a constitutional right to obtain governmental funding to support their activities. Nice is from the six circuit. Ruling. Of course, the state has no obligation to pay for a woman's abortion case after case establishes that a government may refuse to subsidize abortion services now. Hi, oh has followed through with its original plan, and they did defend Planned Parenthood and other abortion organizations in the state. So she had to press reports that the Ohio department of health notified recipients and contractors that it will end that funding within a month to comply with the law, unless the court delays, the effective its ruling as Planned Parenthood requested, of course, Planned Parenthood wants the funds. They'll do anything they can do to keep the funding coming despite the fact that they guilt kinds of private donations all kinds of this is a highly funded organisation. They are awash they got no honorable with money and then evidence by the the messages you played last week couple of. Ago. They don't do women's health care. They know Russians, right? Not spending this money on mammograms and stuff like that. Or prenatal care cremate. Okay. Like, we did with the we we played that the woman who called around to all kinds of abortion clinics all over the country said, hey, yeah. I wanna know about your prenatal care. We don't we don't do free meal care down the wrong number. I know this is called Planned Parenthood. That's kinda misleading because we're really an abortion factory. We kill families. We don't help create them and plan for them. Okay. All right bumpkin, actually said it was very close to that very close to that. Meanwhile, unplanned hit the box office over the weekend. And despite all the efforts my gosh to stop this movie. I mean, it multi-pronged attack over the weekend on Twitter suspended the account for the pro-life unplanned movie. The move came amid ongoing discussions over the role technology. Giants like Facebook Twitter, Google play in policing, hate speech. There's no hate speech here. Conservatives argue social media companies disproportionately target their content. You think? So around lunchtime Saturday conservatives on Twitter notice the account for unplanned had been suspended without notice. Why? Right. What's going on? What's the problem here? After prominent users began pointing out the suspension criticizing Twitter for taking inexplicable action against the movie the account was restored. It's not clear how long it was the spended. But that reset everything. Yeah. Made all their followers and their when you try to. Yeah. They had like, I don't know almost two hundred thousand followers and then reset and then watch this. We're demonstrating on the blaze TV when you go to follow them. Okay. And then you refresh it. You're not following them. So they couldn't add followers. And this is I don't know if this is stopped yet. But look at it now, it's not now, they're not being followed. It is so strange. What Twitter is doing this movie? And this is after every network, but FOX rejected their ads. Yeah. That's right. All of these CNN and MSNBC like hallmark show all that lifetime. So they're doing everything they can to shut down this movie everything they can. And what happened it was fifth over the weekend overall fifth love it, of course, Dumbo came in number one underperforming. What Disney hoped they thought? It was going to be in the fifties. It was forty five million looks weird to me in kind of creepy, and I have no interest in it. But we no longer have small kids at home. So I don't have to see it, which is nice us the horror flick was number two. That's doing really well. The only costs twenty million. Make it's already up to one hundred twenty eight million captain marvel. Oh, I got to that. Finally, did you give it middle of the road? Middle bottom of the road. I don't know exactly what rank it. But it would not be near the top. No twenty point five million three fifty three three hundred fifty three million domestically since it came out. She's five feet apart six point, two five million unplanned, six point one million, and it cost six million to make this thing's going to make a lot of money. And it was in good. It was in thousand fifty nine theaters of the theaters that Dumbo was in. And I think they're adding six hundred or so this week, right? Yeah. So somewhere it did really. Well, despite all the efforts from the freaks in the death cult to stop it. They can't stand. The fact that this is I mean, this is from a Planned Parenthood insider, she was at one time Abby Johnson was a real Planned Parenthood insider, she she believed in the cause. Yeah. And I have not seen the movie yet. But I don't wanna give anything away. But are we sure that she was pregnant with a child in that or no that could have been a Volkswagen in there? We don't know we don't know or you know, club of broccoli. Sometimes there's some spoons in their some cutlery could've Volkswagen in utero. Yeah. Could have been. Wow. I better go see this then. Yeah. What it is. My you might find out. I mean, you don't know that it's a human being. Stupid. Yeah. What do you? Silence denier. But anything strange today. Masa Kleenex, I don't know what's in their tissue. So maybe it's Kleenex point. Right. If it's just tissue it could just tissue. Now, I wanna know tissue loose in there or the actual bucks. I don't know there's no way to tell. But of all the strange things to be this obsessive about for the left. It's no we want to murder babies cannot I propose day. And you know, it's weird is major networks. Sadly, I love the food network. They banned it they wouldn't they wouldn't run the ads USA wouldn't run the ads. Hallmark the hallmark. Channel wouldn't run the ads. That's weird. Not only did the film not merit attention for mainstream press and even barring its advertisements because powerful pro-abortion people wanted it off the air. It's still it's still pulled in all that money. And they're adding an additional six hundred screens to it's big run. So unplanned was an unqualified hit over the weekend. Congratulations. Yeah. That's fantastic. Yep. Really really glad theater for a long time. Speaking of which. By now, you've heard certainly about it. And you know, that the MPAA put an r rating on it in a little veiled attempt to keep Christians out of the movie theater. Apparently that didn't work. They also want to make it harder for young people to see it. Now, you gotta decide for your kids because there are some, you know, there's harsh realities they show abortion with at least they show an ultrasound in their of things happening. And I don't know that you see the actual. I what I've heard is you see some blood going through tubes. And things. So you can look it up. I mean, it'll tell you all the things that made it be rated R. Look it up and decide for yourself, depending on what your kids ages are. But it's about Abby Johnson who had two abortions worked for Planned Parenthood, huge supporter of abortion so much. So even her mom and her husband couldn't get her to think any differently and she rose quickly through the ranks of Planned Parenthood and became the director of the clinic where she worked and that'll change when she was called on to assist with one of the abortions, and she witnessed something then that would change her life forever. And this is her story. Unplanned brings us an eye opening look inside the abortion industry from a woman who was once. It's most passionate advocate, and what's amazing to is the actress that plays Abby herself was nearly aborted by her mother. And then her mother decided at the last minute at Planned Parenthood to leave and give birth tour. That's. Mazing? Yeah. It's really something. So go to unplanned, film dot com. Unplanned, film dot com. It's in theaters now, I promise you not gonna leave the theater the same way you entered it or just check your local movie listings for the location nearest you unplanned, film dot com. Hat. Great on reach good morning. This traffic and weather together every diabetic of threes all day. Log good boarding nine minutes. Every night. But it's the threes. Traffic and weather together. Also, let's see some tweets from nobody important, these narcissistic celebs think they have real influence over the American people. If they really did then Donald Trump wouldn't be president. But that's in can Hollywood art builders or builders PA. Oh, every medical crime show on network TV shows open wounds and graphic surgical operations yet. It appears that unplanned the movie got an R rating for depicting a medical procedure. Yep. That's true. That's true idiot tree. Twitter handle. The left is quite obviously feeling more and more threatened by the rights message starting to resonate with Americans progressive just gone too, far and centrist Americans can't stomach it any longer. I hope so I really I really hope that's true. Let's see over the weekend. H B O broadcast, the rock and Roll Hall of fame induction ceremony. Janet Jackson got in to the rock and Roll Hall of fame. Splaine that to make you feel. I mean, frustrated frustrated for stride. Can't can't look at the hall of fame inductees lack lack like I'd like to see foreigner in there. She said I wanted to stand on my own two feet, but never in a million years. Expect to follow in my brother's footsteps tonight, your baby sister has made it in. Beautiful. She's fifty two now. Well. Didn't mention leaving Neverland. But she refused as she at least she didn't perform any of her songs. So they think that was some kind of silent protests against HBO that or HBO wanna risk wardrobe malfunction. Maybe maybe. The other induct east. Of course, there was Janet Jackson Stevie nicks. Got in Radiohead good def Leppard deserves it one hundred percent. The cure. No problem with that. Really? That's I mean highlight that one I like the cure. They had lots. Yeah. They I mean, I don't know about lots, but they have fall Roxie music. It's just the hip choice of like Rolling, Stone magazine and the Samis. Yeah. Okay. Somebody it out one of your listeners over the weekend. I guess Roxy music came on there on the radio. So they took a picture of the dash there and said, you know, this just came on no way does this band deserve to be before four. That's for sure. That is for sure. But they are you know. Well, I mean, Elon Musk has a song out right now. RIP Harambee, Elon Musk. We'll be in the rock and Roll Hall of fame before foreigner. That's true. I mean, listen to the evidence here. Also, bob. Lawn musk. Fool's day. All we ever do is think of Harambee. Oh, okay. I haven't given him one single. We really miss you Harambee. We do when you go to do when he's not there. Right. He's not said not there. Like zombie. Saw. He's not there. Zoo. Smoking on some strong. What kind of faded out? He does zone. Thank you said sipping on some Bombay. He does say that he says. Yeah. Yeah. But then about you strong. And smoking on some here, we go. Listen, john. John smoking on that strong. But. Whatever I mean. So has he been inducted yet on for his rap that actually sounds just as good as anything that's out? That's what I was thinking. Yeah. That sounds like regular up. I mean, I'm not rap connoisseur. Obviously, you're not. But that sounds like what I always hear from. You know, when my kids are around listening to that stuff. Whatever what. So he's got to come up with a speech because he'll be inducted. And he'll be excited like Robert Smith. The cure was last night. Oh, robin. Smith almost went out of his mind. He was Robert Smith Keillor if you're not familiar with him. He's he's in excitable guy very excited. When I think that's the word when he walked off stage. Here's what happened be prepared. Hi, congratulations. The care rock and Roll Hall of fame inductees thousand nineteen are us excited as I am. Sounds. This from the Senate now. Villis so fun. The kid rock and Roll Hall of fame. Inductees dozen nineteen are us excited as I am. Sounds. That never gets old man is a perfect response by the sands of face scratch. See the cure was there to hip in there too cool to show any emotion even to this day. I mean, our our songs we accidentally got him on the radio. We didn't want him on the radio. They weren't supposed to be heard by anybody. We just released it for art sake. That's all they say. No. But it's kind of. Okay. And they probably did in the eighties. I'll bet they did say that. He did get happier though. The time went on and to good he got married settled down. He did Emily Mary do a girl. And I don't know why that's relevant. Mascara completely understand didn't. But not that there's anything wrong with sure varying some other gender wearing mess of the other one hundred ninety six genders, whatever. Hey, I mean, that's great would different strokes. Right. So whatever, I mean, whatever, I'm just, you know, I'm alright P Harambee. That's drinking some bomb bay and smoking something strong. Hey, whatever I don't. I don't know what it is. But let me tell you about this though this much. I do know patriot mobile is the cell phone service that you need to have restrict restricting free speech is restricting truth. The far left is crossed the line. It's we all know silencing conservatives across America shadow bans on Twitter and Facebook blocked ads on YouTube restricted searches on Google and the removing of conservative apps from the apple store are all things that are a direct attack on a first amendment rights. It's time for conservative Americans to wake up you have a choice. You can fight back with veteran lead patriot mobile, America's only conservative cell phone company. Every phone call protect your constitutional rights every Bill fights for your freedom. Get the same reliable nationwide. Coverage you already have. And still know that your hard earned money is supporting conservative organizations like PTSD Prager. You an alliance defending freedom with plans starting as low as twenty five bucks a month. Why wait one eight hundred eight patriot call them one eight hundred eight patriot used the offer code blaze. Pat gray on need Twitter. Comments about. Unplanned. The movie Reverend doctor Colonel Caleb tweets went and saw unplanned on Friday, absolutely pack theater at seven pm showing standing ovation after the movie ended if you haven't seen yet go this week CARA. Thirty twenty two I was upset that the faith based up channel. Also did not run the unplanned ad. They stated it was. Because the film was given an are rating. Berendt spoons tweets. The left hates anything that might change anyone's mind or expose the lies. They prolonged on several issues. It's clear back. It's clear from the backlash against the unplanned movie. That abortion is their most coveted issue does seem to be. I don't know why. But sure seems to be so strange hill today on done in Tennessee, you're on the blaze. Hi, hey, how you doing this for good? Well, I went to go see planned on Saturday night. And I'm fifty eight years old. And when I walked up to the counter to buy my ticket. They proof me. They looked for my age. I had to give them my dry. Carded you at the movie theater. Couldn't tell you over seventeen year grey beard, and like you, you know. Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. That is amazing. Did you say anything about it? I say really, are you kidding me? And the girl goes, well, we have to prove everybody. So I've I've been to say movie theater and seeing other are rated movies like American sniper. And Hacksaw Ridge, you know, right? So it's it's not did not get started. At those. I'm guessing ever. I never in my life than car. It's amazing. That's absolutely amazing. The call. Thanks. Well, that tells you everything you need to know. Was about how crazy this is. I would like to know what say what chain that was didn't catch that. I didn't either that'd be to know that one. Co back and tell us you also stew is joining us tomorrow at eight eastern, so that'd be seven central six mountain and five Pacific and his he's going to be he's been really keeping track of the ObamaCare situation. It's been happening with that. There's a lot what the future looks like for ObamaCare. So that's tomorrow at eight eastern. I love how it starts out with eighty stern than it says ninety stern at ninety during the show's over. So so that's good that you're reading the typo on the air. It is right inside betas for you. They're here right here on Pat unleashed still stopping by. So what comes on at nine AM eastern on this network. I don't have any idea because. Yeah. 'cause we this is stuff. Right. Is there anything I don't know. What has no idea? What comes on this network at nine AM eastern. Chris the Glenn Beck program. Oh, yeah. Okay. Ninety stroz eight central who's that guy? Some guy guy that looks like Colonel Sanders. I don't know. Oh, they talk about chicken over there for three hours every morning. Yeah. Well, that's kinda cool chicken finger licking good whatnot. And so forth. Alex Jones this. I love. You know, he's denied multiple times. And then denied that he denied that sandy hook mask massacre was staged. He's basically said every massacre has been staged was a false flag operation at some point. But the one that particularly hit people was the twenty six kids of sandy hook being actors, and they were running around the buildings run around in circles. Why? And so he's now claiming to have some form of psychosis. The made him believe events like sandy hook were staged. He's admitting to psychosis. Oh, yeah. Because he has to to get out of these lawsuits the or being waged against him. This is going to be interesting. Yes, it is. He did the same sort of thing. If you remember during the problem with his wife in court, and they were going back and forth was at a custody hearing or whatever, and he was claiming that it was performance art. Yep. And then so how did you not get any repercussions from that? It's performance art. You don't really believe the stuff? What am I listening to you for of course? I don't. But we we do play his. Outrageous statements from time to time people actually take him seriously. Now, he's claiming psychosis. And I myself almost had like a form of psychosis back in the past where I basically thought everything was stage. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we said. Even though now I've learned a lot of times things aren't staged. He said, so I think as a pundit someone giving an opinion that, you know, my opinions have been wrong, but they were never on consciously to hurt people. He said, it was the trauma of the media and the corporations lying so much that caused him to distrust, everything kind of like a child whose parents lighter them over and over again, so long before these these lawsuits I said that in the past I thought everything was a conspiracy. And I would kind of get into that Nasc group think of the communities that were out saying that. And so now, I see it's more in the middle. So that's where I stand. Oh, okay. I is that going to be okay with your conspiracy minded listeners. I mean, he's built his business on this stuff. He faces multiple lawsuits though, from families of students in education killed in the sandy hook shooting to lawsuits were filed in April twenty eighteen by three parents whose children were killed and a month later, he was sued by the families of six other victims who were joined by an FBI agent who responded to the shooting the first two lawsuits each sought at least a million dollars in damages for a severe degree of mental stress and anguish and a high degree of psychological pain that the parents suffered as a result of him calling these. A hoax. Wow. That's really some. And I don't know. How loyal has listeners are especially after social media has blocked him from the face of the earth. But this could be a problem damaging if they catch win this. Well, it's a form of psychosis. Now, you're saying that you were you were mentally ill. So he's come up with excuses excuses. Each time he's in court his feet or held to the fire and money's involved. Yeah. Orders kids performance, art. And then it's psychosis now. So which are we supposed to believe performance art or psychosis and a lot of performance art is psychosis Olga psychosis as as you can see wherever you or did you really believe all this stuff? Which is what I think it is. He he's he actually believes this stuff. He's always believed this stuff. He is essentially the father of the nine eleven conspiracy of the truth or movement. And if he's not the actual father of the lie. He certainly perpetrated. It is the disseminator of it. Yep. I mean, he believed it wholeheartedly and win popular mechanics came out and scientifically took it apart and said, no that did not happen. And yes, Steele can melt. Have you ever seen it in action? Have you ever been around a steel plant? Have you ever seen? In liquid form. Oh, of course, Steele melts. So, you know, then when popular mechanics debunked, it he said popular mechanics was a branch of the CIA. The who the who? No, not the who the who is rock band from England happening. It's the CIA trying to go. But he's he will do it. The Shii pet. Okay. Let's pronounced it there and see this man didn't believe anything in the government before nine eleven. No. And this was just his this is just what put them on the map. Yeah. So he's never believed. Anything the Gulf of Tonkin performance art right at its or psychosis. I don't know what he I think he just believes it he frankly, just believes it, and he spreads his stuff and now because of his association with Trump people started to take him seriously and pay attention to what he was saying. And. So as a result of the increased scrutiny now he's getting hammered you got away with it all this time because he was irrelevant before. But when Trump kind of latched onto him, oh boy now two different issue. Now, you've got a friend in the Oval Office. And he claims phone calls back and forth. And I frankly believe in based on the fact that Trump was on his show. So. Now, it's trouble for him. Now. It's trouble. Meanwhile, Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg is calling for more regulation of the internet. This is so weird. So weird. He's under scrutiny for his role in spreading this information in inadequately policing content. S- calling for regulators to play a more active role in a stabbing rules for the internet. Exactly. What we don't need. Yeah. You've already you've already established that you can handle yourself by keeping people like Alex Jones off your platform, you need the government to tell you to do this crazy, okay? Zuckerberg called for stricter regulation of harmful content election, integrity privacy, and data portability. It you can't do this on your own Mark. I'm sorry. Then you don't deserve your billions of dollars, and you deserve this platform. And you certainly don't deserve the government protection. If you can't take care of this on your own. I believe we need a more active role for governments and regulators. That's exactly what we don't need by updating the rules for the internet weekend. Preserve what's best? About it the freedom for people to express themselves and for entrepreneurs to build new things while also protecting society from broader harms. Yeah. That's what will happen if the government gets involved. All that's our off if the government becomes involved in this process. Zuckerberg's missive was the most comprehensive Facebook CEO has ever been on the issue of government regulation. His call comes as US. Federal prosecutors reportedly probing Facebook's data sharing with a number of large technology companies. No wonder now, it makes sense. Yes. It does. Okay. Tell you what you guys stuff sniffing around Facebook. And we'll let you control us more. There it is. He is pathetic. You seeing this stuff that's going on in Hawaii with him to know what what's going on Hawaii. He's got this massive. I don't know eight hundred acre estate, and he's trying to buy up the land around it, and the locals are really pissed off and boycotting and and picketing and trying to keep him out of their land. And so all of that land just went up for auction, and he had a buyer by a lot of it. But somebody got in there and blocked part of it. But it's it's a real mess and the people in Hawaii hate his guts because of it they're they're not excited about Mark Zuckerberg. Okay. So this big liberal who's, you know, all about people's rights in and and freedom and. Just wouldn't ever think of squashing? The little guy is doing just that in Hawaii right now such a hypocrite triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three late last year, the Manhattan District attorney's office released a grand jury report, noting that law enforcement had received two thousand complaints of deed fraud, and almost all of the cases involved. A faulty nor to resumption. The problem is so bad. The grand jury called it an epidemic so criminals are looking for vulnerable properties. They scan the obituaries they pour through public records. It could take his little as a forged deed to transfer ownership and it's almost impossible to reverse once the title is transferred. They take out a mortgage they sell the property sometimes sometimes they rent it. But now, you can prevent this crime from ever happening to you or to somebody you love with home title for pennies a day home tied. Lot puts a barrier around your home's title and mortgage. Go to home, title dot com and get registered to learn if your houses already been compromised. And if you register your home right now, you'll receive a free title scan report, which is worth one hundred dollars. And they'll throw that in just for signing up gets protection for your online mortgage. Go to home tied LOC dot com. That's home, titled look dot com. This is Pat gray unleashed. Really the day wouldn't be complete. If we didn't have some news from C. Alexandria Cossio Cortes talking about the GOP here. She is firing back at her critics over the ninety three trillion dollar green new deal. They wake wand, and they say, oh, it's going to cost, you know, a bazillion dollars. They sound like doctor evil like one hundred million dollars. And how about we start by fully fully funding? The pensions of coal miners from West Virginia. Dr. By rebuilding Flint. Let's just start right now. And believable. How about we start by you know, like? Whatever, you know, like, why just about anything would would be better than like, you know, what's the start whatever. Let's just start now. The Flint thing that's not about climate change. The Flint situation is not climate change. Deflecting woman. Let's just start like whatever, you know, whatever. Like or whatever like, you know, like she is bad crap. Crazy, absolutely bad crap. Crazy, and there was more. So as you might expect she had to talk about the threat that is that the earth is facing right now from the danger of Cal arts to innovate on our technology. You know, obviously like outta staffer you see like doctors talk about cow flatulence. But which is an issue. I just wanna say. Literally literally into methane. But that doesn't mean you end cows. It means that remedial. What it means is that we need to innovate and change our grain are cow grain from which they feed in these troughs that you need to really take a look at regenerative agriculture like these are solutions. Smart. And so why is every cow? I spoke to said the same thing, boo. That's kind of weird. He's got problems. Yeah. Well, yeah, they all through our staffer under the bus had a staffer release the thing. But we'll I'm sorry. How about my office released that report that talked about cow? Right. Well, and takes no responsibility. I mean was it not supposed to come out? You did this is a policy. A proposal. This was supposed to this was supposed to be enacted by the United States of America. No, a working document that was inadvertently released before it was ready, Pat. It's crazy. She's crazy. Her one of her former staffers will lead Shaheed, oh this guy spoke out to over the weekend. This is interesting what he tenders really open the window for the bait democratic socialism in this country. And so it's not as fringe as we might think. In fact, what's actually becoming fringes if you call yourself capitalist openly. Not is unreal. If that doesn't send a chill down your spine. Nothing will in fact, which actually fringe is people talking about themselves as a capitalist openly. That's fringe. We're done happy for full day. All. All right again. That's why you don't do April Fools jokes on April Fools. Not believable, right capitalism. Is the fringe ideology now? Wow. Okay. I don't think. So. And fortunately, most of America anybody over the age of forty does not believe that well, most the vast majority of people over forty don't believe that. Now, his generation might he share? He'd will lead Shaheed might believe that a Qazi Cortes might believe that. But the vast majority of Americans do not believe that. Win. The vast majority of Americans are on board with them on that we are done as a nation. It's over. Is. I mean, it's just as simple as that. Because we we will not survive socialism. Nobody does. So and they get they just keep pushing for it take just keep pushing for it. You know, what else is dangerous? I was just reading over the weekend that the Russians are being allowed to fly over some of our most sensitive military installations. Yeah, they made a Stein United State of Montana over the weekend. Yeah. They did you feel about they went to great falls MSA air force base is one of the big nuclear silo sites in the United States. It's not it's not an air force base where there's a bunch of pilots located there. It's an air force base of nuclear weapons. And that's what that's what they do in mom's stream and the Russians landed there, and we're allowed to fly over, and I guess check out our installation. I don't care for that. Then they went Let's see it went to Travis Air Force base. Located near San Francisco. Okay. They flew over the naval. Air station in l'amore headed over the Channel Islands the naval. They went to fort Irwin. They went to the naval air weapons station in China lake before hooking a right and heading toward creek Creech air force base in Nevada. From there. They went to Edwards Air Force base. The National Training Center the naval air weapons station. I think I mentioned that. And they. Wound up at area, fifty one. Oh, they also flew over the Dugway proving grounds on their way. Back to great falls, another really sensitive area into a Utah where we are disposing of chemical weapons what a stupid treaty. What treaty was this is the the open skies treaty of two thousand two where? We can carefully monitor any I guess there's thirty four Siamese to this treaty, and they come to now we're doing this in Russia too. But here's the problem as always with the Russians they're cheating, and we're trying to play by the rules. Our guys are saying because we are allowed onto the aircraft that that they used to go fly over these sensitive installations, so they're they're not allowed certain kinds of -ment. And our people are saying they've got certain kinds of equipment that are breaking the treaty, then so they're getting a lot more out of this than we are. Wow. And this is the problem we make these treaties with the Russians. This is what they do every single time. They can't be trusted. They can't be trusted. Even win over area. Fifty one we go over every area fifty one the Russians. Did they showed him the alien buddies? Yeah. Probably now rushing shouldn't get to see the where we do. I know. Oh now, I'm really angry. They probably even watch. The autopsy movie. Which was riveting. I mean that. I'll have to suffice. I guess. I hope they did get shown that that. Because that was that was quite the hoax. So, but it's just it's frustrating. I I don't know why we continue to make these treaties. I don't and then abide by instead of tearing them up. Trump usually staring up, these bad treaties, we tear this one up. It's really really not advisable to allow the Russians to be doing this stuff. But. He's colluding with them. So all right. That's right. Yeah. That George W Bush treaty. Well, actually, I mean, he would have them because right because that's the Senate passes that well, I guess he would he would have led them to negotiate it. Okay. Or is people did? Okay. Yeah. Good times. I looked into the looked into the eyes pootie-poot a soul over there. Did that's what I you pootie Putin in a few years later, a regretted seen as soul. It was pretty rotten here. I guess he had a couple of different souls, and I saw the good one. And then missed the bad one. Wow. Multiple sold sold it. That's where the two plus comes in the LGBTQ Q a two plus two souls. Sounds like an extra two. Too. So. Agonizing all of it. All right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three us at number tomorrow. And we will talk to you on the next Pat gray unleashed.

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"It's the doctor build eagles show presented by neutral medical dot com call one eight eight six four zero andrew boiling welcome to call in show and ask questions will stay on topic we have a difference of artists joining us and never always has amazing stories usually traveled to europe lots of things going on deborah what gender today well doctor bill on yes everyone is listening please go to stop the crime dot net frequent are you to video channel we have completed the posting of the five part series on the genocide documents outlining how murder is legal in how this happened all of us so so i would highly recommend you help us get this out far and wide we also have many you two videos up from doctor bill and i radio shows as well please frequent thee website because we discuss real documents in in real time until you what the time is in it is not good but without necessarily going in order of the most urgent aspects of what we wanna talk about a two day the day after the see fourth of july weekend when we had two massive earthquakes in southern california and we wanna talk about some of the reasons that these happened and dutch since hasn't excellent excellent video sequence up on that discusses this and it covers many of the things in the past doctor build it you and i have talked about clued the borehole drilling that activates earthquakes in also d m geysers thee 'em the guy that they literally a drill into 'em who created by the way these guys is the policy superheated water and it actually causes xyz earthquakes by triggering a sea change in the tectonic plates so as we know that there maybe i don't know if there's any drilling directly in that area where there was a matter of fact there are two geothermal plant right with in the range of the quake okay so in other words there's a direct link between the geothermal plant near earthquakes here just like apple approximate occurring in oklahoma is triggered offing earthquakes in oklahoma's well isn't it well that's absolutely true and we've talked about that many times in the past on the show so it's important for on when you hear about quakes and seismic activity a check out the lakes butter in the vicinity of these earthquakes because not only are they the seismic act to pivot he coming from the geothermal operations which are generally near the quakes is well because of the ring a fire in volcanic 'em areas but also this these quakes were near china lake and also the naval air weapons station so many people are looking at these a possibility that there were nukes set underground that potentially also activated this seven point point one quake started out quake on fourth of july is being reported as quaker six point six now by the way where you're pointing out very very important to realize we don't do airbrushed nuclear testing we all do deep underground and if they have in their fault though especially if there's hydro fracking or fracking because they're trying to pull off superheated waterford power generation what's the power corporation is involved in northern california's using the superheated water having geothermal sites and by the way under president trump chaos rise recycling this water this hydrogen sulfide that when it gets back into you're water supply kidneys concentrated and it makes it so concentrated rides and sulfide you could dissolve the porcelain in steel so in other words you could dissolve you're toilet with europe and people don't understand that obviously trump doesn't know the difference but the science is rather idiots that it will training underground nuclear testing or fracking fracking is dangerous it creates earthquakes doesn't it including reservoirs were goes earthquakes that water scott's right now because some of the things that people need to do when they hear about these in the manmade intentionally create a weapon systems that are being used on just to take think about it think think about where are they earthquakes do a search in that area where the nearest lakes are think about lakes many of the lakes are manmade so keep this in mind find fake lakes make quakes i did a search and i found that we have a very large huge lake in kern canyon where be 'em seismic hazard hazard characterists characterization of the current canyon fault for the isabel project in california and i looked this up isabel project that's called lake isabel actually it's it's say reservoir and it is say large large reservoir that serves hydro power for loss angeles and there was a study that i posted up on stop the crime dot net you can go to or email blast outs and you'll find the backup information about this quake along west a very excellent youtuber that was put together showing me a luma nadi significance of the dates in the in the reporting of the quakers initially being six point six and then that we've changed to six point four so you go again to the irish now you're saying there's neurological a significant it's like people secret ordered people can get to this information by going to stop the crime dot net to or email blast outs and you'll see the email entitled largest earthquake in decades hit southern california measuring six point four magnitude the two ends july fourth of two thousand nineteen and again originally reported as they six point six and you'll see embedded in that email an excellent youtuber that talks about the luminosity 'em aspects of the dates in this and everything that was reported about this quake and then we've attached information about a some concerns about thee lake isabel a earthquakes in reservoir inducement so we know we know that reservoirs are not necessarily reservoirs dams to contain are water and move it around a win we have primary water we we could actually pull it up fresh fresh in not exposed the atmospheric poisons through a an underground system as moammar kadhafi had done in radio anywhere you pointed out that the primary water is a the salaries in northern california's paul power and we will try again paul on the show i've done videos with paul on my new dramatical channel and i think you've heard some videos as well with paul a he's actually exports in the last sixty years i'm like sixty countries these trained people in other countries that i find primary water using radar and so on and endows in techniques and a i wanna sit on my radar stuff 'cause i wanna get primary water goes besides prepping for power and getting a backup for kilowatt generator if i've ever watched of solar panels i want august the surge protectors at a a we we were gonna put on her home but we we had a a you know are expert come on the program stand dale few weeks ago he's in bed he developed the pentagon the governor addressed somebody else you'd have water because the governor signed a cut off water supply or they're tried poisoned water supplies worldwide it's not just here thursday global if you wanna call terra forming now there's not follow up there and i'm gonna mention his name natural news adams and he's trying the space aliens terra firma there's no it's high level goal of us want her to swirl populations i aliens raymond of the human race because it's a damned evil but their audience they're bad people diners bankers in high level secret orders directs you doing things two years and it's flat and ecosphere this stupid and dangerous isn't it well i wanna say this about the earthquakes and then i wanna move onto five g because while we're being massively distracted by intentional earthquakes in all of these other intentional weaponized whether targeting that is occurring five g is rolling in faster than we can possibly imagine so i wanna make this comment again pertaining to the email blast outfit everyone confined unstop the crime dot net under the email blast out tab of what i want to tell you right now is an excerpt from a report we found a on page forty forty nine of this report that says the current gorge powerhouse which is kern river number one was built in nineteen oh two to nineteen o seven by the current river company and now operated by southern california edison who first online this was the largest hydro electric facility in the world providing electric power to los angeles and a steep rob drew brees shoot above it across the river now i want everyone to keep in mind southern california edison edison international is operated by rothschild l l c in company it is an operated taken utility as all are utilities are so again this this damn was put into operation it is able to travel a we have talked about the fact that there is information climate change aspects of these global infrastructure and how the global infrastructure will not withstand the level of climate change when in fact we all know that climate change is actually whether weapons so now i wanna get it's not just national events like a crowd of massive jacksonville the sun it's actually where they weaponize see whether of here's a lot of its policy to for example there insuring people so they can't be on the coasts larry or in rural areas where fires happen it won't hand trimmed back in extra rebuild their homes in northern california right well that's one layer of it absolutely another layer of it is they're changing the building planning codes were facing along a very wellknown a river the russian river which borders along bohemian grove and those people are going to find an incremental elimination of their property usage as a residential in in that a the codes are requiring new of policies for septic systems in sadly most of these properties of which there about seventy thousand a will be identified as having a the need for new septic systems which many of these people cannot afford many properties will be identified is not being able to conform to the requirements of the new septic system we will further this conversation i'm sure there's a shows doctor bill because this is very hot topic here also there a v commercial business owners are suing a a z property owner of a business park in sebastopol here's sixty miles north of the golden gate bridge when we were drenched with horrible floods back in february and literally wiping out they wastewater treatment plant which spew millions and millions of gallons of toxic contaminated wastewater treatment plant in any 'em in the lawsuit was discussed in the pay the newspaper here just a day or so ago they said that an atmospheric river parked above be a wastewater treatment laguna low lying areas and caused massive inundation of floodwater events that had never happened before so again well you know we know the management of of the dam which is mme up in northern california's up and property managers if there's a major flooding there it'll breakthrough in in destroying homes for a quarter million homes yeah lockout ordered held down by the way after governor will see drain journals had control the purse strings back then and this current governor gavin newsom is idiots and these people are collaborating on creating climate disasters duty populate are they well they're all part of the ball sadly were being inundated people still think that we have a system that we can participate in and change things we do not but i wanna roll into the find some people are deluded lee representative government model yes a doctor i got to move into five g because there is a very important video that was posted an m i watched it and i am converting it in posting it on stop the crime dot no video somebody else producer you're gonna put it over on your site yes i am in right now because it's not over on stop the crime dot net i want everybody to tighten you're you to video channel and you confined it right now and it's entitled the most important video you will ever watch share and a it discusses five g now a mark steele who i met when i was recently in london for the talk with discussing five g as it's been hold out in london and also the lapd 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or neutral medical dot com that's one triple eight to one two eight eight seven one or neutral medical dot com and listen to the major medical report on the genesis radio network with open lines every weekday neutral medical dot com bringing nutrition in medicine together dan welcome back and debra let's continue this analysis on a lot of people might think of this conspiracy theories well that that that phrase is actually better by the cia this is conspiracy facts and if the guardian website you earn amazing person and finding or documents and videos and so in the robbery this i would expert on directed energy weapons and scale radiation in fact i'm doing a lot of pioneering research on wanna buy all circuits and i think that a five g network acts using extinction level event i think of sexually lower the final layer of totalitarian control system overly we call the mark of the beast let's in the bible but it's also causing massive collapsed the mitochondria rugged biofilm a insects falling from the sky dying and birds people realize the five g is is nearly isn't it six well it absolutely is and i want to discuss that more because i wanna talk about again the video again entitled titled the most important video you will ever watch end it says share so i'm gonna discuss that and then i'm going to talk about some of see aspects of five g but i heard discussed when i went to the london conference where i participated in i would recommend and suggest everyone onto you to type in eight v that's for alternative view eighty ten and you should be able to start watching these videos the came out of that conference not only mind but mark steel as well and i would highly recommend that you listen to mark steel ac tuna what's his back ronin what countries from yeah he he's i i'm not prepared to give you his bio but i will tell you that everyone can listen to him at the eighty ten video he discusses his bio then he isn't x expert in microwave warfare in actually inventing some of the weapons systems that were used on battlefields that's why when he saw the lapd lights being deployed in gateshead in the uk he knew that that was part of the weapons system so i'm gonna talk about that because this is what we need to know certainly here in the united states and elsewhere were having these battlefield implementation rolled out in the lapd lights a rolled out as well so what we learned in london in what you will learn also in this very important a most important video you will ever watch that's the name of it is that of course are homes are all over energized in the powerless of these frequencies the powerless frequencies indoor and outdoor are home cook meat indoors and outdoors with the microwave and cooks us is well and you were talking about some of the facts and the biological effects of electromagnetic frequencies but it's not just a thermal effect see one of the defense is that the industry tries to say doesn't have thermo effects nonsense affects her epigenetics and a we know the battlefields of the future drones like the latest spiderman movie weaponized with directed energy weapons they're not gonna be bullets or mortar and so owner even scarier explosives they're gonna be directed energy weapons that they targets of other human flesh and other life forms and that's where people understand stand as this is they weaponized a system that's gonna be deployed in homes they change regulations in america home set clear repeaters for the five g is being put in major cities like loss angeles and sacramento and other cities it's being rolled out right here in northern california's santa rosa were eyeless an five g is being liberal now people are basically on aware that utility poles are part of aid battlefield network that has been set up and all under control of the ball in so are utility poles are being used as part of z weapons a on the ground application and i wanna talk more about what you will learn in that you to and you'll learn it right now parts of it from me they talk about the mini cells and street lights and how they cause i cancers and it is part of an extinction weapons system they go on to talk about how they electromagnetic pulse will disrupt are bodies molecular cohesion and we will vaporize much of that we saw happen in a in a paradise during the fires where people were literally vaporized in there is a case in the uk of young boy who developed a extremely unusual cancer and again it was extremely rare in only attributed previously to radar operators so this is again showing busy extension of the death raise that were being targeted by streetlights to or faced a raise and they're being rolled out covertly in are neighborhoods throughout the entire world and 'em the white house has been discussing how the u s will survive these electromagnetic pulses in when the grids go down intentionally excetera oh it was also discussed that there was an attempt to turn on the five g and i found this very interesting during they 'em a ac ten conference in korea and i believe the date was april the fifth of two thousand eighteen five cities started to burn simultaneously when they flipped on these five g grid end what mark is suggesting is that paradise was a multilevel attack an experiment certainly we know that the rural areas are being intentionally burned up we see it on the burnham up lists the cal fire list that puts out of their areas of extreme fire intense zones that will also affect insurance but we also know that they are deploying these frequencies to kill us we have to keep in mind that five g equals for ge times sixty five thousand it's just like the difference between these six point six earthquake that we had on july the fourth versus the seven point one we had a couple of days later enormous difference but the five g is widening out of the spectrum in the sub waves and what i found very interesting is the five g does not need to go as close to our homes is we're being told it is an extinction level frequency so naturally they want these to be as close to her homes is possible were also learning now that they 'em the foliage the trees were being told her being cut down to allow the five g millimeter waves to gain access indoor homes this is really not necessary because thee of frequencies go through any and everything they go through concrete they go through steel they get in it gets indoor homes were finding out and learning that the removal of trees he's is to remove the fact of the trees are dying and they don't want people to see how the trees are being affected by these frequencies because we would see it eliminate the visual a death machine because again this is to eliminate all biological life on this planet in this infrastructure will kill everyone in again all biological life and they talk about how the switch was on again i believe the date is april fifth of two thousand eighteen in career it was just see the resilience of the power network but it failed just as it did in paradise that's what mark steel is saying about the paradise fires here in northern california's so it was a multi layered attack to test the system what i found also interesting is that the plan for localized battery storage end electric vehicles is is part of the plan of resilience of the weapons system so we know that dependent upon how your solar panels are connected if they are connected to why fi is they are connected to the utility company if you are sending back power you are eight weapons system you have to be off the grid completely with no con activity to the internet of things no why fi and no connection to to the rothschild chill grid that has been set up will talk about that also in later shows but i wanna continue on with this because he only de antennas are designed to sweep areas with a scanner and they kill people that is what is happening now in a we were told to that 'em a some people in the uk took apart one of the lapd streetlights street lights in which cours nose bleeds in the area where these street lights are deployed and they talked to a number of streetlight installers and then were actually given one of the streetlights that they dismantled told and they found that the light manufacturing specs are not real the specs sheets of the printed specs sheets are lies so you were not able to find out what is is really happening with how we would have found out things in the past because this is a salt weapons kill grid that is being set up and were being lied to on every every level so we have to ask ourselves it's why the telecoms they're designing equipment to look like something it's not an five g is a weapon so are the cell phone towers designed in disguise just trees so the sub frequencies are destroying the concrete of nuclear plants dams bridges excetera income penetrate are homes in the frequencies create structural degradation now we've talked about this in the past everything is energy all energy is energy and you force energy against other energy particularly infrastructure end it causes degradation and that is what is also happening what's the collapse of the infrastructure of throughout the world not only is it whether weapons being used but it's also so busy radiation from fukushima that is dismantling infrastructure as well as they increase frequencies this five g is a is they weapons system in again it is most important that we know in sadly billions and billions of people are gonna die in that is an extinction sean level event oh you and i doctor bill have gone over the kill policies the genocide policies one of which discusses how a united states will be reduced in population by eighty three percent by the year twenty twentyfive so i wanna talk more about 'em aspects of five g a people do not understand these normandy of where this is coming from an i think that people need to know that it's not just a a pie in the sky thought that is being rolled out by the telecom industry oh no no no this is backed by massive corporate money worldwide in a we found some very interesting information on eight c t i ate twitter and the c t i ate twitter a talks about the wireless history history andy it talks about we bring together i dynamic group of wireless companies that enable consumers to leave they twentyfirstcentury connected life and they go on to talk about how a locally you could think about smart a communities and how they're bringing together capabilities venues in campuses are examples nationally we see things like gaming and drones service in until a health are also going to be big opportunities and they go on to say ever ever wonder why in the blink of an eye you're wireless device consent attacks order takeout or adjust the temperature of your house from thousands of miles away but have you ever wondered how by the way we have we have a caller it looks like a a go ahead a caller what is your question then for denver myself go ahead so apparently the caller is not responding in a timely fashion doctor bill so i look at this is a potential waste time so unless this starts the time and i think one of the things we have to do is the timeline icy is were heading toward october next year twenty twenty and these systems are supposed to be put in place in the next two years are say well that's and that's why they're pushing this so quickly end this injure connective twitter that i got into a talks about how wireless connectivity let's pilots view eight drone end its surroundings from a bird's eye perspective users can also leverage apps to preprogrammed specific gps coordinates and create an automated flight path for drones goes on to talk about how drones work in they talk about how nebraska a in the united states became the twenty fifth state to modernize infrastructure rules half of the state's recognize these opportunities of five g conductivity by adopting new citing reforms forums so people think that weaken stop this there's lots of misinformation there's lots of of media outlets out there that are saying that certain cities have created moratoriums against five g i stopped that is not true no one no one has stopped five jeep period brussels has not stopped five g mill valley in other locations here in northern california have not stopped five g and went to work the politico and the human compromised families of skull and bones aluminum body and all the rest i recently interviewed someone that came amount of a skull and bones family but no it obviously at the time when they were being brought up and talked about what the dinner conversations were in these families this family was largely behind a planned parenthood introducing a birth rates then that would include of course splitting toxins in the water supply in the air and everything else but also just an amazing males in lowering male sperm count infertility and all right yeah they're so when i was talking to this person i gained a very insightful 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thank you bill so is most important for people understand the level of the financing behind the five g a what is also happening right now i i had a question come into my website speaking of questions and i reviewed this question because this person said that they wanted me to take a look at this these documents that they sent and they said they attended a meeting a back in june of two thousand nineteen announced several questions and could not get announcer and they said this has a gender written all over it so oh no i wanna explain that right now because they had some pdf's detached i open them up and i reviewed them and i'm gonna go over some of what a these pdf's contained but i want to also tell everyone that the five g network is going to be fine announced in this i found interesting as i was researching that question a they talk about closing the infrastructure gas gap and how a data agenda this is h d d i s agenda recognizes now have you ever heard of their data agenda before if you haven't you need to know this is behind investing in sustainable development and resilient infrastructure this is just as shattering as it gets to find out all of a method in which think organizations are literally destroying us yeah but there's no doubt you've been documented this they're doing us insurance carriers through public policies scott cogs witcher united nations they're doing this global banks i mean they're doing some every avenue possible it's not just one but it's a multi pronged attack isn't it absolutely and that's what i am certainly trying to convey so that people understand the enormity many in the bandwidth of which were being attacked but this is interesting i found this on that same website but i wanna get into some of these other things but i discovered by the way we do have a caller the questions extra pretty simple andrea is her name is paul let go ahead paul that would you a quick question for deborah but a different want you gotta just summarize what you think is important question and you know she raises go ahead mike question why do they want to eliminate eight all biological live okay go deborah dose of what you think well well they're releasing where were definitely paulette being replaced we know that there is they trans humanism agenda and we know that to be couple ball a wants to control all land so they're stealing it from us they believe that they have stolen everything from us square it's multilevel paulette i would urge you please to watch the five part series youtuber said i have up on stop the crime dot net because i answer that question there right now in the few minutes remaining a i cannot go into that in any great detail other than to say we're all the targets target of elimination you're not like it's not like mike adams says what aliens is now the letter demonic lee energized the globalist bankers billionaires hell you want to be a pilot is thank you for your call but urge you please to listen to that five part a youtuber serious serious okay so i wanna continue to talk about what we discovered as i wasn't answering this question for somebody who who sent in these pdf's so i'm gonna redo some of the things i found in these pdf's in it is really unbelievable in a and then i looked into the current a newly revised climate action plan called the pennsylvania climate action plan november two thousand eighteen and it was a they say it's eight draft forum prepared from pennsylvania department of environmental protection it is diabolical but let me continue with this so as i was looking at the pdf's i found these things in the pdf and this is what this person went to meetings and couldn't understand it wasn't advisory group and they're confused by these meetings and again i discussed this in the five part video series that i have a but it says that u s military transition assistance program called tap again another top programme a transitional you know assistance program for recruiting efforts all look outside of the region look outside of l a county has storage a shortage of workers and could expand to other countries with a workforce they they agree was attracting technical workers from other countries emphasis on employment based programs so what i wanna say is were finding here in the rebuild after the fires and thousands of homes and businesses says having been destroyed were finding people that are brought in as craftsman in workers from latvia nb on an a it goes this goes on to talk about green energy and alternatives to fossil fuels i want to underscore this all of these plans talk about fossil fuels that is the baseline code foray plan that is a genocidal because we never ever got are petroleum from fossil fuels when you reid fossil fuels reid and understand the plan is genocide it's resource reduction here's what else i discovered it said this in this plan this fellow sent a winter weather severe winds and flooding in wildfire in extreme temperatures are the most threatening natural hazards cited in the local hazard mitigation plans now i wanna say right now that's a pretty scripted in all the climate action plans i have found again severe winds flooding wildfires extreme temperatures are the most threatening this is what we face is they global society everywhere every city every place throughout the entire world they go on to talk about 'em a that they the climate action plans are foundations to the to the meeting you attended and they go on and i go over more climate action plans but what i also discovered was they say that adopt fund eight tony wide code enforcement program this will include hiring fulltime code enforcement staff members in addition work with municipalities to review or create local ordinances property maintenance codes governing property maintenance work with homeowners year round and seasonal to encourage the use of homes for tourist lodging an update ordinances to ensure municipalities receive a political taxes axes when people rent out their homes in addition explore the use of tear ground or other privately owned land to create new opportunities for visitor lodging continued to deploy boy and support lake county and regional cellular end broadband deployment strategy to include 'em convening a task force that inventories he's existing infrastructure identifies anchor customers end proactively engages service providers now these were in the plans they talk about green agenda financing's i also was stunned to find this out because there have been many levels of theft of course in the coffers the world coffers in a i found on another a united nations website but but they're actually going after the return of stolen assets from some of these corporations so that they can fund their green agenda enroll out these genocide plans this is how part of the financing sing is going to be gathered to literally implement these plans and it says return of stolen assets it says the recovery in return of stolen assets has been referenced for instance financing for development outcomes since the monterey consensus have any of you have heard about the monterey consensus and the return of stolen out some snow and it says it has been identified any but a death agenda again hdd i us agenda as crucial element towards the financing of the twentythird the twenty thirty agenda for sustainable development we are being financing's into into oblivion into extinction and i find repeatedly documents after documents after documents that talk about through the united nations c i a mouse in the global controllers that are inhuman in the sense that they have no morality no ethics and no concern for life itself she'll be in human aspect of humans that william rotting these death these deaths on out on this one comment what we're seeing is they wanna push trans humanism you wanna reduce world population ninety five percent they wanna tear from new orleans the city of my book by the way mike adams says he's going to a big conferences september but then all this data is not aliens it's evil humans are basically parts of ancient secret orders and they've decided that they they know where on the crux of learning conquering aging disease i have a lot of the technology right now under tremendous including my padded red deer velvet genetic frequencies i'm an expert on scale radiation head above top secret clearance i could tell you you're absolutely correct every avenue when people say like i have some conspiracy nut balls at one attack you and go to attack why do you have that roger show because deborah's wise she knows what's going on she is likely injured you know debra the generally female general in nature in israel you're facing the the the truth of this and the fact is the population by a large when the regular uncovering and even fox i noticed a fox news is gonna have you on i would love that back contact and get you out of there because i think people don't realize it even while policies like we agree with some of the things say a one side of the other got more locating the names there's bad policies on both sides and that's what's happening there racing toward the global new world order with five g network and the tell tell train police state even amazon these other companies are directly collaborating and they control the media olive meanwhile the water the waters that are being delivered into our homes are highly poisonous there have been some recent reports showing that there have been increased competition is found in all water supplies throughout the country as as well as other types of pharmaceuticals likely not only being dumped into the room and they reservoirs because we were told the wastewater treatment plants in the reused waters of or you're in sequel material in pharmaceuticals suit of goals they were literally gonna start dumping wastewater treatment of fluent into the above streams and rivers so that could slow in to the reservoirs and create aid blend and then be pumped into our homes again again it's most important to understand that these reservoirs are now in are going to be used as part of the booby traps system they are they're being used to blend you're going you're in in pharmaceuticals and serve it and pump it in well as well as taking down blowing up at if you will through seismic activity and shaking of these reservoirs and they use of directed energy weapons as well as the increased frequencies better literally dissolving all matter and that's what's happening in so far we're losing it actually has never expect the shutdown jeans you just shut down specific genes and killing insects insects a very radio sensitive so were having an insect or ends on the logical apocalypse happening right now combination of human died she is scale radiation smart meters why fi networks and glenn towers and now at five g everywhere this is totally nuts well i wanna add one more thing and it's a very important because i've been researching bridges and infrastructure and i'm finding out that many of the bridges in the rural areas throughout the country and elsewhere are not being repaired these bridges are intended to fail i also wanna point out that here in northern california we have hundreds and hundreds of people living in motor homes and rv is because of having been burned out and not being able to replace their homes in the recent flooding when we get hit by additional fires were gonna have these are these clogging the very narrow roads that will be a z evacuation realm as people try to flee the flames were gonna get clogged with these are

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566 Aviation Conversations

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566 Aviation Conversations

"This is the airplane geeks. Podcast are a mr educate and inform you explore and expand your passion for aviation and entertain you a little along the way this episode so we talk with an f._a._a. Nexgen portfolio manager the c._e._o. In digital marketing director of a company producing comprehensive flight sim software. You're the crew of a noah w. P. three d. orion hurricane hunter a retired vice admiral pilot who is the oldest living graduate of the u._s. Naval academy in the owners of an aviation themed hotel in texas in the news. We look at a hydrogen fuel cell powered airplane a five billion dollar repair bill for china lake naval air weapons station new wings for the a ten warthog alcohol and commercial pilots in landing and a three twenty one in a cornfield. We also have part one of launch pad missouri's adventure buying an airplane all that that and more coming up right now welcome to the airplane geeks podcast this episode five hundred sixty six of the show where we talk aviation. I'm max flight and joining me is i max trescott. He's host of aviation news talk podcast. He's the two thousand eight see if i've the year and he's an expert on learning to fly or purchase a serious aircraft he max hey max. I just want to let you know if you didn't know summer is over the high school near me. Just started today and the traffic is back so i mean summer's over here the the marching band practicing evenings things hopefully that won't <hes> creep into the into the recording. That's funny. The time of year also with this david vanderhoek our aviation historian david. I have to disagree with mr. Trescott summer is not over because it's a sauna here. We're having a heat wave dave but looking forward to an interesting show tonight. Great also joining us is our good friend and roving reporter hill l. glazier. Hello hello how are you. I'm great max. Thanks great to be with you guys tonight. Good to have you back well lately. We've been interviewing a number of interesting individuals at a variety eighty of aviation events in. We consider all of them to be our guests for this episode. We'll have those conversations coming up shortly but first and the news is everyone ready ready from the west ready ready from the closet. The will explain that one later. I item comes from defense communities. This this is navy's china. Lake earthquake damaged dramatically climbs to estimated five billion dollars. Well i david what is china lake aac naval air weapons station. It's a base in northern california on the desert edits where the united states navy tests there weap- weapons meaning that it's a it's a naval air station and their job was originally to teach gunnery and then they use it to teach air to ground weapons like bombs or missiles specifically for the navy and i kind of surprised at this five billion is a lot of money but the earthquakes that occurred <hes> in early july i remember watching him from my a hospital bed immediately near the base and did severe damage to a lot of the buildings china lake is an old old base. It's most of the buildings are from world war two or slightly later and it's a very large urge important facility for the navy and it's one of those low key facilities you don't hear much about it unless you understand about the pacific missile test range enj and various other things but it's the second major base to have a natural catastrophe to cost billions of dollars. The other one right now that we're dealing with is the united states air force is dealing with audit which was in the mid west which is had all of the flooding and basically the feel the mississippi river flooded into off it and that's caused billions of dollars worth of damage so it's kind of amazing that we've had these natural disasters china lake. It's not on what we call a normal fault but we saw the damage that was done. Luckily there were no lives lost but it looks like there's a lot of buildings you know they're not they were not build up to and mistress can attest to this california code because they were buildings from the thirties forties and fifties so <hes> they're not designed to take seven point eight and eight point zero richter scale earthquakes and web stunned that it was that much damage five billion and when these earthquakes occurred remember thinking. They're out in the middle of nowhere. There were no deaths. Hardly any cities nearby that heading substantial damage but i guess that's where you locate these kinds of <hes> you know test facilities in the middle of nowhere but that's that's a phenomenal amount of damage. I think it's what the the numbers may actually reflect not the cost of repair but just the cost of re compl completely come up with new buildings. It's <hes> since given how old china lake the facilities are and what it is that they're there to do it not that it's i blame them whatsoever but it wouldn't surprise me if the money the five th that adds up to five billion has more to do with a complete infrastructure restructure redo because it's it's not just the buildings that they have to repair or replace but <hes> the sewage systems the plumbing all of that probably has to end the drainage everything problem you know a lot of that stuff it cracked and it's beneath the ground and it's very hard ground. It would be hard to easily repaired there. There may be easier than perhaps more time efficient to replace it all out right yeah all right. Let's go on to our next story. This is from fast company. This plane can fly. Five hundred miles powered entirely by hydrogen. Oh of course electric geir plane can be powered by stored energy or batteries and we've seen hybrid electric airplanes that combine battery storage edge in a in a fossil fuel ingen. Sometimes a hybrid concept can be a fossil fuel engine that generates electricity for electric motors motors but there's another way that you can generate your own electricity up in the air david. Do you think this is another <hes> another good idea. You tell me me you're the expert on fuel cells. I put this story in specifically for max if you don't listen to u._a._b. Digest one of the things we talk about a lot and my co host on that show seems to find them absolutely fascinating our fuel cells hydrogen fuel cells so five hundred miles sort of fuel cell given what we've talked about on the other show is a pretty reasonable and this is a full-sized aircraft and not a u._s. Pretty reasonable amount of mileage on water yeah it sure is this <hes> this company <hes> the startup is zero via and they designed this hydrogen electric power plant that can be used in aircraft <hes>. They've been doing some testing <hes>. It seems like they're not too far along. They've been testing you know. I think that's a piper malibu. <hes> it's either a malibu or perhaps a meridian be easier to convert <hes> for hydrogen <music> a an avid gas powered engine or diesel powered engine. I'm guessing the diesel in which case it's meridian but i'm not sure in zero estimates that <hes> operational costs will be about half that of flying conventional planes they look towards savings not only on fuel costs but also oh the efficiency and less maintenance of this kind of a design <hes> and interestingly and this kind of a key <hes> key point. Is that <hes> at this this time any way. The company is using compressed hydrogen stored in carbon fiber cylinders. That's kind of an easier way to start ultimately. I think for these kinds of applications you wanna go with liquid hydrogen <hes> because you've got a greater energy density but that obviously requires the more engineered containers than just for compressed hydrogen with if you go to the zero via the website they'll tagline blind there is it's the largest zero emissions plane to ever fly without any fossil fuels <hes> i think that you know when they talk about zero emissions admissions against you you to look at the process of producing the hydrogen and what are the emissions associated with that but <hes> once you've got the hydrogen yeah like david says the only byproduct here is water and this airport by the way is <hes> very close to me. This is hollister so there's a little bit south of <hes> san jose and silicon valley. I was out there just about a month ago in fact if you just mentioned it in this week's episode <hes> i was was doing a flight there and what i found was that <hes> the old restaurant there has just been reopened and it's in what used to be the brig big so the airport back in world war two was <hes> a military base and so the the brig is now the the restaurant but you know it's not just as your avia. That's operating operating out of hollister. Rick kitty hawk which has been one of the alphabet companies google a company <hes> startups base there as well. Maybe you should <hes> take a trip down on there with your microphone. Someday definitely next up from national interest. See this strange looking new a ten warthog hug. It is special for one big reason well. The reason is the ogden air logistics complex at hill air. Force bases finished their their project of installing new wings on a ten thunderbolt two aircraft. This is part of the ten enhanced wing assembly replacement program program and i guess i guess david this <hes> these new wings <hes> are expected to extend the the lifetime of the eight tens for or some years into the future. Yeah i think we're i think we're shooting for twenty forty unlike a lot of other aircraft the ten primary payload food is always carried by the wings besides the landing gear are also attached there so the wings are were deteriorating due to overuse well or us so congress bought a bunch of new wings so all of our eight ten cs can be updated as a life extension program because we have nothing to replace the eight ten these new wings will last we'll take us to. We have some sort of adequate replacement for the ten. We don't know what that is but it's been a congressional want for years. The air force not so much but ogden did a good job guiding all all of them down so every every ten. We're currently flying has new wings and we given what we talked about last week c. One thirties having older wings in cracks. It's kind of nice that we have aircraft with new wings couldn't continue flying on cassette always seems to be the issue we've had fifteen lose with wing issues and f._16.'s wing issues and eight ten so the tens are unfortunately unfortunately going to be around for very long time just going to get to be like the the b fifty two's of out for seventy years or something like that i mean wasn't the tenths supposed is to have been retired five ten years ago. Yeah the eight ten should have been retired mid nineties if we really right but there's nothing that does does what it does and nothing. Has you know <hes> it has a very very large gun in it and i think i think more and more people are fascinated with that gun and they are with the actual aircraft. I think that's true at the same time it with or without the gun eight tenths could get much you know downer downer and dirtier with artillery and close air support and a much more up close and personal way not that other planes can't do it but they ah may not do it quite as easily and have the low airspeed maneuvering characteristics of the eight ten given that <hes> in that kind of environment where you're very much in the dust and i think that one of the reasons that the military or let's say that congress is reluctant to give it up is as david pointed out. There's nothing that does that but the beat. Let's face it. There's nothing that does that cost pointed that it does in terms of airship costs because we don't want to put enough thirty eighty five or even enough sixteen down dirty that low that often and brisk losing an aircraft. That's worth to cost a replacement is much higher so it's just a it's more expendable to people about it. You know speaking of dirt. <hes> this article has comments turned on under it most. I think think of these new sites have the comments turned off because they just get out of control but <hes> this one has the comments on and the one i liked is from <hes> one individual the jewel who posted if i was in the air force there are only two planes. I would wanna pilot number one the eight ten and here's the part i like. It's it's the dirt bike of aviation. I thought was pretty cool yep. That's that's not very far from the truth. I mean they definitely get very close to their target. Yeah his number. Two was the buff which i guess david. That's a b. fifty to fifty two yeah big ugly fat fellow right or something to that effect. Yes all right moving on one mile at a time united airlines cracks down on drinking pilots while we've been seeing some instances where some pilots have gotten in trouble for this out. There are alcohol limits for pilots and some of them have been of if the pilots have been over the limit now united has some new rules <hes> max t what our <hes> what is united trying to do here well first first of all. I think the title of this is a little unfair. It says united airlines cracks down on drinking pilots. I mean it makes it sound like hey. We have a problem here with our pilots. They've been drinking too much and i think that's you know that's not really fair because <hes> a relatively. I mean very very few pilots. I get caught up in these incidents. Go though surprisingly it never quite goes away now. One thing i think but people may not be aware of is that the blood alcohol level for being a drunk pilot is different in the u._k. Than it is here in the u._s. and the u._s. Your blood alcohol level has to be below point. Oh four <hes> in the u._k. It's got to be point. Oh due to an for years. We've seen lots of arrest of american pilots <hes> in the u._k. Not lots but <hes> you know. I remember there was one from american airlines not too long ago and this has happened with the united pilots and i think that may be part of the reason that <hes> u._s. Pilots sometimes get caught up in this. They may very well be meeting the requirements in the u._s. but they're not in the u._s. And their stricter requirements overseas so united has decided to change their rules a little bit the f._a._a. Has a hard and fast rule that says not only can you not have a blood alcohol level of point four but you also cannot drink within eight hours of flight united has just said all right. We're gonna make it twelve hours for united pilots and i. I think that probably makes sense. I think that reduces the odds of them getting caught with these point. Oh two levels in the u._k. I am sure that they're going to be some pilots who are going to be a little upset that now they may have a layover of eleven hours and they can't have that drink that they like to have when they arrive to which i say that's too bad well. I'm kind of confused because there's there's two measures here right. There's your blood alcohol content and how many how much time since your last <hes> last drink and i those two aren't necessarily correlated did not but you have to meet both of them so it's true that if you drank like crazy at nine hours before under the old rules are thirteen hours under the new rules you might it's still be above these a blood alcohol level so you have to meet both criteria okay all right next up from the daily mail recording reveals eales the russian sully told air traffic control tub buzz off after his emergency landing and of course this was about the earl earl teddy say that euro yeah named for the the mountains in the western part of russia <hes> the euro euro mountains yeah. That's the name of the airline flight <hes> you you. Sixteen seventy eight had a problem. They pulled a sully. They took off last week. They hit birds during takeoff in their airbus a three twenty one and they came down really fast so apparently they initially lost one engine and said they were gonna come back to the runway then shortly after that they lost the second engine and pretty quickly after that they put the airplane down in a cornfield and i think the thing that's most remarkable about this story is that everybody survived arrived in these days with jet aircraft. It's rare that you have any kind of an accident. Were everybody's survives because the speeds are some much faster than they are in your yeah propeller-driven aircraft so that's really pretty cool that even though they they did have a sully event where they lost all their engines they did like sully find a place to put it down with no injuries now the the thing about this title <hes> the pilot telling air traffic control to buzz off which i do that as a title it it may eh exaggerating just a little bit but rafter. They put it down on the ground. The air traffic control was asking him you know where they are and they didn't know that they atlantis this hardy and they said hey we're on the ground. Kinda shocked. It's like well. What do you mean it's pretty unusual in an aircraft is off the airport on the ground and can still communicate with a tower because you know you get more than a few miles away. Yeah you got line of sight problems but i'm sure the tower was surprised that he was talking to an airplane that was in a field somewhere and he could still talk to him and then what's typical when you have any kind of emergency and this is a problem that i think pilots need prepare for and planned for in advance is that the a._t._c. will really start getting in their way to some extent and with all kinds of questions and as a pilot when you're trying to manage to manage an emergency emergency the last thing you want to be doing is spending the precious little time you have available playing twenty questions with a._b._c. I have long thought that an emergency. I might at some point to say last transmission. Turn the radio off. Just you know put all my brain power toward dealing with emergency and not having my attention diverted to what is frankly wrinkly of very very low priority. Which is you know answering to a._t._c. So at some point in time after they were on the ground and they were getting these twenty questions from from air traffic control <hes> the <hes> they were asking about the casualties and various other things in the pilot at some point. You know just basically said <hes> <hes> you know we're. We're done talking to you too for now because we're we're busy evacuate. The the aircraft in fact i think was do not disturb us. Evacuation passengers is in progress yeah so i think that was actually fairly polite given the circumstances but it does show the priority of the captain. The priority is to make sure that all the passions since go get safely off the aircraft. You don't know if the aircraft is going to erupt and fire <hes> so yeah. Your first priority has to be dealing with the passengers and you know who cares the exact number of passengers in the exact number of dead and injured. I mean that'll august sorted out afterwards. Air traffic control doesn't need to know that in the moment so what i often tell pilots that i'm working with is that when they're talking with air traffic control it may sound like they're listening to the voice of god but they are not you know if if there were no pilots in the world there would be no air traffic control. They work for us and you've got to keep that in my often they speak in ways that out the exact opposite of that it makes it sound like hey they're in charge and you know you better respond to them. You know right then and there and that's where pilots actually i think get in trouble. Sometimes you gotta learn to kind of manage a._t._c. An emergency you can just ignore them. Tell them last transmission and turn off the radio now in this case the birds were seagulls for sully it was a it was a kennedy yeah. Exactly this was seagulls. Apparently there are a lot of seagulls around this airport and it's a it's a known issue in furthermore. This airport is a long ways from the sea but according to this report art there is what's termed an illegal landfill. It's located between the airport and the moscow river and so you have this huge population relation of seagulls that <hes> feeds at the landfill thus creates a an issue with with aircraft coming and going so uh. I don't know if this incident will result in some action taken against that landfill nor to try to eliminate or or significantly reduce the seagull problem but sounds like something that they should look into your there are a lot of airports with with bird problems in your right. Landfills are a huge source of bird problems here in the united states as well by the way. I read somewhere that the pilot had just upgraded to the captaincy. I can't remember how long you've been a captain but it was a matter weeks or very few months but i think his actions were really commendable in fact russia thought so as well because he was awarded the the hero of russia asia metal so i think i i really think that's well deserved. Yeah i do too and <hes> there's some information from the pilots brother who said that the pilot was initially initially trained as a lawyer but he decided to give that up and <hes> he had a dream to be an airplane pilot an airline pilot and so he pursued that at that dream now he's he's going to be in the history books. That's a great story by the way i looked it up for you that piper <hes> that was being used in hollister holster is a malibu matrix so it is driven aircraft okay now this fr- who popped in this airlines are no longer allowed to ban service service dogs based on breed and this comes from something called mental floss dot com found this rather interesting <hes> the background i believe is is that somebody was denied boarding <hes> when they brought their pit bull in a service animal on the aircraft sometime in the last month or two so the department of transportation tation has come out with clarification which says that <hes> airlines cannot deny boarding for any type of breed of service dog which is sir you know now brought on the airplane so <hes> i just i still kinda wonder. How are you gonna feel. If you're you know cozy jose up next to a <hes> pit bull. <hes> you know in the seat next the other service animals can't be in the seats but it and they have to stay within the legroom of <hes> you know the the person but you know that means your legs are virtually right up next to the the snout of <hes> you know potentially pit ball like man. I would be really really really uncomfortable with that so you know that's just part of what we're having to to deal with but of course <hes> you know. Miniature horses are also on the list of service animals. It turns out though that my my service animal <hes> can be banned however i am apparently no longer allowed to bring my my service rattlesnake snake on board so yeah you rattlesnake has to stay home. Also your ferrets are not allowed any kind of rodents or reptiles and and no spiders no service spiders it just it's totally unfair now. Apparently i can bring my my service goldfish which is good because we have a strong emotional attachment and those are probably be emotional support fish and and that's that's different. There's this distinction between <hes> emotion. You know emotional support animals and service animals service animals of course are trained to perform a certain assisted function for their for their human emotional support animals also are generally not trained per se <hes> but <hes> motion support animals aren't covered by the americans with disabilities act. That's a good point. Thanks xr making that distinction. Of course i'm just joking about fish because fish to me are seemingly the least emotional <hes> animal out there. You know you don't see them. You know cuddling up with owners and things like that at the same time obviously as you know you just mentioned service animals are trained and <hes> many breeds like pit bulls are actually make very good service animals because they're incredibly loyal and a very protective and so even though they've got a bad reputation <hes> as long as they are properly. It'll be trained. I think that's where the where the disconnect distinction comes in as far as service animals because the once they're trained they wouldn't they wouldn't be allowed to be service animals many may i don't know what the statistics are but not all service animals go through training and up as service animals they end up washing out just like they were a person applying for a job or position in military they don't they don't make it and <hes> those animals they need to often find homes for them because they were intended to be service animals but besides the point the even a pit bull can make a very good service animal if it's properly trained and if it is a service animal it has passed all the training so i i think if there was a pit bull the hardest thing for me to do with the people there's two not pet because they're also very friendly extremely energetic and friendly and that's just one thing that the service animals you're not supposed to pet them or engage with them because their job is to deal whatever it is supposed to do for their for the person they're helping and here's the story i don't. I think we talked about at the time but i remembered it and it's kind of related. Which is why i wanted to pop it up. Real quickly. This was from may twenty ninth and a gentleman was <hes> on a delta flight <hes> back in twenty seventeen in which the an emotional support dog attacked him on the flight he sat down next to the owner ask if the dog ugh with bite and it was assured oh no the the owner would not bite and he ended up getting at twenty eight stitches from this encounter with the animal which apparently the <hes> locked onto his face as the dog's teeth punctured the guys gum above his lip beneath his nose left a permanent scarring on him and this was a fifty pound chocolate lab pointer mix so can't i'm just i it. There's a report here that one of the airlines has seen an eighty four four percent <hes> increase in incidents with animals biting here we go delta announced an eighty four percent spike in reported incidence since since two thousand sixteen including your nation defecation and biting including this incident with this particular passenger so all i can say is let's be careful out there as i mentioned we've been talking talking with an recording interviews with <hes> great many interesting folks and we're gonna bring a lot of those to you. This episode and we'll start art off with <hes> jemma wilson who is a f._a._a. Next-gen portfolio manager next gen is broken up been to a number of portfolios and wilson is <hes> the manager for the performance based navigation portfolio in separation operation management and robert fairbairn caught up with jamal at oshkosh this year all right folks. This is robert fairbairn. I'm i am at the <hes> f. a. a. safety center at air venture oshkosh twenty nineteen. I'm sitting here with jamaal wilson. Who's in the next gen office with the f._a._a. Dealing with a d._s._p. And a few other things and we're going to ask a few questions here about the eighty s b program what else they're working on so let's just start with that. Tell us a little about who you are and what's your world with the f._a._a. So typically with the f._a._a. What i normally do is portfolio manager and the f. as nexgen staff office <hes> for those who don't know much about nexgen we have a d._v._d. Into what we call portfolio so next gen consists of eleven portfolios and within each portfolio. There's a myriad of programs and projects underneath that group together based on interoperability ability and things of that nature so i manage to of those portfolios for the f._a._a. I take care of performance based navigation and separation management which involves the collaboration of automation tools controllers to help reduce separation in the enron trouble environment things of that nature but we're here with a team of four doing a d._s._p. Are reaching the community unity ahead of the january twenty mandate just to get the word out help. People make a good decision about whether they do or do not need to quit and if they do <hes> what solution will be most viable with airplane. Okay sounds good <hes> for those of you who may wonder where this is coming from. I <hes> flew out here. A few years ago ran into jamal at a weather. Stop waiting to let some storms clear. You're up so two moles also a general aviation pilot here <hes>. Did you fly out yourself this year as well this year i did not i'm sure everybody on your podcast probably dealt with this at one point or another but i'm breaking in a new cylinder and in that twenty five hour period. I don't like to venture too terribly far from the airport so i lead a united airlines. Give me here this time fair enough. We understand stan. I also didn't fly this year. <hes> so what we wanted to do is just go a little bit over. I think at this point everybody kind of knows that there's this aid e._s._p. Mandate and for a lot of general aviation pilots most of i'm probably they're going to need to equip. I think probably people are pretty clear on those requirements. But is there anything you want to call out that you think is a misconception or something. You're running into that that maybe we could clarify for people title so one of the main things that we're looking at here is that folks will immediately assume that the mandate is an airplane rule as opposed opposed to an aerospace rule so the mandate has written everywhere. You need a transponder today. Eighty s will be required by the mandate which is january first twenty twenty so if your entire habit pattern is operating from uncontrolled fields on control field. You never go above ten thousand feet. You never traverse a mode c veil oh you don't peers class c airspace. There's no requirement veto equipped so we talked to a great number of pilots who might be up in arms about the notion of equipping but if you look at your flying line patterns and you don't go into rule airspace. There's really no need for you to equip so when we do our research has roughly two hundred six thousand g. a. tales in the nass and of those the initial estimates were about one hundred and sixty thousand people need to equip but then we had the math and we say for every pilot who was based in motsepe receive ale or routinely traverses rule airspaces another pilot who may have dipped a wing in a motivator for years ago but that's not a recurring thing thing they can easily avoid rule airspace they want to so then. We asked people to take an objective. Look if you don't think you need to diverse rule airspace and there's no need for you to quit so that is really one of the main things that were getting out to people and make a good decision that makes sense so as we get closer here. Obviously you know i know there's a lot of talk of people putting it off putting it off in a sense that maybe there isn't enough time for everybody to quit. Does that look like the case for you. Do you think people are catching up now. I believe you quivers numbers are looking very very well on both the part one twenty-one one thirty five side and on the side of the house the clippers numbers are really going up exponentially in the past few months <hes> people are making smart decisions about equipment whether they need to and what solutions are going to do if they need to and that curve has no indication of going into the negative it seems as though everybody that needs to equip is doing so in a timely manner and there's going to be a tool in place for folks who missed the mandate and they have a need to equip. There's going to be an automated soon. We are are going to essentially go and try and get an authorization to fly into rule airspace as a non a._d._s. Be equipped airplane now. One of the main things that i tell people about this is that when you apply for without waiver to get into rule airspace there is no guarantee that that controlling facility is going to let you win so take that under advisement if you're trying to drag your feet on equipping because you think that the authorization authorization is going to be a a sure thing because it it might not be so that's another piece of information that's very important for folks who might be thinking about waiting to laughter the mandate to acquit that makes sense so there's a tool for getting a an exemption for on a per flight basis presumably but obviously not guaranteed. It's going to depend on the load in the area and other factors doctors okay so let's let's talk a little bit about the things that i hear people complaining about a little bit. Which is you know some of the things we hear you get the systems installed and then you need to do a test flight a certification flight as it were and i i've heard very mixed reviews on how this works and how well it works and whether it's going to supplant or not what can you tell us about that process and you know. What are you seeing that. Most people are succeeding or is there a lot of having to go back and tweak things so more often than not folks would do a validation flight and then for starters chris the validation flights became really big because that was one of the recklessness written into the rebate rules where you install and then you validation flight for about thirty minutes and rule airspace <hes> but typically for folks who are not getting a rebate and they do an install not necessarily rules written that says you shall validate right <hes> when you do your next flight we ask that everybody goes to the a._t._s._b.'s public facing a._d._s. performance report you put in your tail number and email address and the date of your flight couple of other pieces of information and about fifteen to twenty he minutes later. You're going to get a report from the f._a._a. Lets you know that you're working satisfactorily after you do that. There's no mandate that says that she will do this with a certain period this city will we encourage rush people to do. Is you know if nothing else before you take your plan into your first annual or your annual yearly. Annual run report may share. Your equipment is doing what it's supposed to do. I should just recommend checking up on it. Periodically -solutely i'd remind quarterly because you can do it as often as you want and it's free. Some people do it twice a year. Some people do it once a year. There's nothing written we encourage a recurring j. Make sense okay so on requirements in terms of checking up on status of things there was some documents it came out recently that i knew confused a lot of people i think the initial publication at least wasn't entirely clear with regards to preflight requirements to check out the quality after your reliability of a d._s._p. Coverage along a route of flight when you were before you flew added lie. It sounded like an additional component to preflight requirements. Can you explain what that it is and clarify who and how it applies absolutely so there is a ability predictions who is going to be employed for folks who are operating in eighty s b system some without the waas compliant g._p._s. source the good news for the side of the houses that the solutions that we are putting into our airplanes all come with waas complying g._p._o. Solutions right so that sapped tool is going to be primarily used for part one twenty-one operators who are flying under exemption where they have a d._s._p. Equipment without the g._p._s. compatibility just just yet so i read that article also and the f._a._a. Put information alp today after that to kind of give that full picture of what the snap tool is and who uh-huh actually going to apply to so g community can rest easy <hes> that sap tools not gonna be something that you'll have to worry about case it sounds like more likely it's going to apply to dispatchers and smaller one twenty-one operations or one thirty five operations but people that are dealing with older g._p._s. equipment and not necessarily operating with the year that we do in aircraft right that is correct and it's not necessarily limited a small one twenty-one some of the bigger fleets <hes> are still waiting for a wider availability of full eighty s be solutions. Also a ed won't have to do the sap project ability to also sure the older aircraft in the large fleets. I just went with the larger fleets. I suppose it's probably more likely to be a dispatcher job than the pilot but okay so it. It sounds like that's really gonna apply to the those aircraft so to speak or the legacy systems in them anyway. Do you have any idea what what the numbers are on that. How how much that's gonna apply to. I don't know so <hes> the exact number. I know the window closed for those exemptions but i wouldn't be the person to know like a specific number of airplanes that are on that list fair enough. You've seen the last thing i'm going to ask you obviously trying to clear some clarify some things here. Is there anything that you covered a little bit of this already. But is there anything that you would wanna. Tell people in in v._a. Or in in commercial aviation that you think is being misunderstood stuff that something that people should be aware of or a little bit of advice for dealing with aid e._s._p._n. Just dealing with the f._a._a. General underline it's not particularly complimentary sayings that roll around particularly in the world i think and i you know people always get irritated when things don't go their way that may or may not be fair in in some cases but they're certainly misconceptions and disconnects between pilot communities in aviation fans and stuff in the f._a._a. So what what are you take on that. What would you like to say say to people well the f. as mission. If you look at that for first and foremost we run the safest most efficient aerospace system in the world. Our goal is to continue to do that when you look at implementations like a d._s._p. We recognize the value and everybody having the wealth of information that d._s._p. Gives you both for may tisby n._f. Is be perspective effective. We don't necessarily want people to look at that as a bad thing and if you talk to anybody who's a quick eighty s b. It's almost like we're in two schools of thought. Now you have a group that is a coupe with aid e._s._p._n. Can't can't imagine life without it and then he talked to folks that are still on the fence about equipment right so what i would recommend the folks. Is that the f._a._a. Is here to help and i mean that with every fiber of my being you know we've always heard the story that the f. as we're here to help we're <hes> we're not happy until you're unhappy and that couldn't be further from the truth but also take the opportunity to talk to your fellow pilots who quipped whips and get first hand knowledge of the benefits that they are getting out of it. <hes> we say that a d._s._p. Out is the mandate and aid e._s._p._n. Is the benefit so what controllers can do with eighty out. Information is immeasurable but what the benefit lies in the black communities with e._s._p._n. Talk to your fellow policy with her getting out of it. Make determination if you need to quit and if you determine that you do then talk to your fellow pilots or the f._a._a. And see if we can help you to make a decision about the right equipment corporate source for the corporate solution for you got one more question for in its apply sort of two <hes> one of the criticisms. I hear that's more. I it's almost more theoretical michael in a sense but it feels like to well it feels. It's quite clear actually that the f._a._a. And the air air traffic controller putting a lot of <hes> a lot of emphasis on g._p._s. ask driven driven information tracking aircraft almost solely on the basis of g._p._s. and that seems to be growing in its influence in terms of instrument navigation as well both rude and approaches are shifting heavily toward g._p._s. driven solutions and we're seeing things like the are going away and talk all lauren's going away and so a lot of those older systems estimate arguably backup systems are going away and so there's there's some certain groups in aviation and certainly that are a little uncomfortable about relying on g._p._s. and we've seen things in the last few months you can have g._p._s. Outages intentionally or not a few about a month ago. I think might have been closer to to <hes> a lot of the regional jets in particular. We're having a problem with with their g._p._s. c._b._s. Functionality at due to some changes in an update and that caused a lot of hassle than the commercial aviation world so what what do you what are your thoughts on if this is outside your purview then and i'm sorry but what are your thoughts on putting so much emphasis on g._p._s. as a solution and you know and why is that what's happening is it purely cost driven and and do you think it's the right way to be going or is there talk of maybe not doing that so rapidly or or is there a backup plan in place to deal with things otherwise i mean the transition to g._p._s. Navigation is the function of the number of satellites that we have in orbit seems to be you know the difficulty of putting a satellite in orbit. Maybe twenty thirty years ago does not exist anymore right so now that we have a robust satellite network to rely on the transition is not as if there's some people might make it out to be but there are smart folks inside the f._a._a. Who look at the redundancy and resiliency capability ability and want to make sure that we have a robust capability in event of g._n._s._s. outage or disruption so the first thing that i'll say is that we have via war minimum operation network that is going to remain the nass for the exact reason that you just mentioned robert to talk about <hes> resilient navigation capability <unk> g._n._s._s. outage in conjunction with that we have what's called arnab d._m._z. need to rely on vacation capability in genesis outage to allow folks in the environment to be able to get to the next destination using g._p._s. positioning the resilience is so there are things there on the f._a._a. Side of the house and make sure that folks don't get jammed up if there is a genus outage or disruption okay. Thank thank you very much all right. Thanks robert cray conversation. Hello how are you <hes> all set for the mandate beginning of two thousand twenty eh absolutely yeah i've got taken care of <hes> think it was five couldn't have been five years ago three years ago three to four years ago. We've got a whole stack from one manufacturer. Pretty much replaced several components in aircraft and <hes> it's. It's actually something that i went went a little overboard with in terms of what i could have done <hes> certainly since then many much were cost effective approaches have been approved approved <hes> but i was also looking for some improvements in usability so i had a very old g._p._s. in the aircraft which was very not not to have <hes> very hard to remember all the sequences of things that needed to be done in order to make sense of it and i was looking forward to something that would give me more information in a much more user friendly experience and <hes> i got many parts replaced and of course in the process got the waas capable g._p._s. and and a much bigger screen and everything that i was delighted to get has made flying a lot less stressful about worrying about my able to actually program this thing to do what i need to do. In were those do components are used components. Almost everything i got was new. I think one or two components i was able to to get used up because they were not part of the mandate <hes> but they just were necessary to get everything else to work. <hes> i had a very old clunky intercom system basically it's the system that distributes to sound microphone input into the radio so that people in the cockpit and the plane can hear each other and talk to a._t._c. and you can isolate whether it's just a pilot or somebody else <hes> it was very clunky just old school throw switches and i didn't have a lot of options to it could isolate all the different positions i still fly steam gauges but <hes> that's the round dials as opposed to all glass panel but this was a particularly hard hard to upgrade hard to keep up with the times kind of thing and and just obsolete and many other ways so i got took advantage of of the upgrade to replace that but i didn't bother getting a new one because there's many used ones on the market and also i believe i got a a used glide slope and localize her because has it was also available in the market plenty of those around <hes> especially when companies are plea airplane owners switched from steam gauge glass. It was also the same device where certain messages from the new g._p._s. unit. Get sent to be visible so you could see. Whether are you flying g._p._s. or you want to localize your are you. Did you push the the o._b. S button which is no one ever actually remembers. Donald max trescott remembers ups stands for but it's a button that you push to determine if you're going to hold a position or continue and the nunciature tells you plus all the other nunciature is about what's failing what's working. Come through this one device and had that replaced. I did get a new transponder the new g._p._s. capable then you ask capable g._p._s. because that's also what it's all about. <hes> there was a opportunity to get a used a g._p._s. but the installer convinced me that would not be in my best interest to to get used one because of the <hes> not only where the new features and capabilities of the new g._p._s. much more appreciable in terms of user experience but he said that the old one is technology is so old that the parts are getting getting really hard to find they could have been appropriate for what i needed for the mandate but the cost of of upkeep would have been potentially prohibitive if it was again also quite old technology and the newer one <hes> also had one thing i think perhaps i- biased toward this one and feature that might have sold me too much more than it should have but it had the capability of communicating directly with the ipad that i would or tablet that i would fly i with and <hes> transfer flight data and flight plans between the ipad or other tablet and the panel directly so i could upload or download download my flight plans. I could get the same information in both locations and also very important was the monthly map updates and other updates to come out on a less frequent basis. All i needed to do is to bring the tablet into the cockpit with the new information loaded turn on g._p._s. and the new information and would be detected and would automatically update the panel directly from my tablet which before in order to keep the panel current and you physically have to take a memory card out of the panel take to home or an office or someplace to load up the new maps and everything else and then go back to the plane lane and put the the the memory card into it and <hes> that was not a huge chore but it became a chore when you suddenly found yourself not flying for several weeks and an update had come and gone and now you're at the plane and your panel isn't current and you can't fly an instrument approach because you don't have a current panel this made it much less of a of that kind of hassle now hill you also had an opportunity to speak with a couple of folks from infinite flight to set this up real quickly. Yeah infinite flight is a tablet based flight simulator and when i first saw it they were running it on a large fifty something inch sixty something inch t._v.'s for a high definition television it the visuals were well to say they were unreal is actually the wrong direction. They were so realistic that just hide hard time believing that it was computer generated it looked like a game and i was sort of dismissive missive at first that this was just a flight simulator and as many people know the flight simulator market is very crowded and i thought well. Why is there another another company entering the flight simulator market. What's the big deal and why would they want to give a fight so much and turns out i was i was quite wrong about that assumption. That's not what they're about and i learned a lot about what they are going to do. I spoke with the c._e._o. Laura lebanon and their marketing director jason roswell and they set we straight on what it was that they were all about all right. Let's listen. This is hello glazer for the airplane geeks podcast. I am here at air venture twenty nineteen in oshkosh oshkosh of course as you can tell the real true ambiance of oshkosh and we are outside. One of the exhibit hangers these to call it. A hanger is really a a misnomer. This is a very very large warehouse and not almost sort of in the shape of a maintenance anger but it's pretty huge and we're here with folks from infinite flight the co founder and c._e._o. Laura la baume and jason roswell so welcome to the airplane geeks podcast. Hi thanks for having us all right. Thanks <hes> what is infinite flight infant. Flight is a simulator that you can use on your mobile phone or your tablet and <hes> we have multi-player a._t._c. all kinds of other stuff that we can talk to you about but it's a flight simulator for mobile so are there other simulators for mobile there are there are you can check out slim simulators like airfli- and explain and all that <hes> what sets us apart a little bit as we have a four flight integration and we have <hes> a worldwide scenery with multiplayer so those are exactly the questions i was after what what besides what sets you apart what why now why did you choose to go into to the <hes> mobile flight simulator space. What's compelling about that space so we we initially started the project about ten years ago oh and was going to be a p._c. Version this is when the mobile market started kinda booming. We figured it would be better for us to start in that market. There would be less <hes> comparison peres index will be made to a new similar newcomer in that in that space so we kind of went into that market and why were they and they've been growing ever since so it just makes sense i think was even see today companies focusing on mobile more because of the versatility and the fact that you can take it anywhere. Let's go back a little further. Why did you decide i to make a flight simulator. It's certainly there's been been many flight simulators on the market. What's about what is it about. You're trying to about simulation or in general that you were trying to accomplish with the business. I mean i've been a user of flight sims for a long time and i had this idea of writing my own because sometimes when you use some other people's product product always missing features things that you don't like and i figured you know contrite start something and i had been working on something for many years just as a side project project and when i met my co-founder felipe in california we worked at nvidia time we figured like let's join forces in this into a product <hes> and <hes> yeah this is how he's got started a great startup story so it's been around for about ten years as a concept and you went into mobile right around a little after that yes so so in twenty eleven we shipped on windows phone and actually put microsoft kind of started that shift to mobile because we were working on p._c. Then microsoft herself santa's demo units of windows phone before the release and we figure let's try it would be the first on mobile app on windows phone so it could be a great way to set us apart part and then we went to the u._s. In two thousand twelve i under it in two thousand thirteen even though it's mobile and it's flight sim. You've actually been quite at some times. What have you seen change in the market and how's that affected what you decide to do in your feature set. We've seen the market kind of volved to <hes> like the beginning where we're kind of dismissed as has a game like a non serial turn it and now we've seen here at oshkosh that <hes> the number of people that have come to the booth either from instructors that i've had their students used a simulator me later and seeing the difference that it made into their training their ten to twenty hours ahead of other people and now we're also seeing a big companies airlines anes your reps from from fates companies coming to us saying like we need that as an advanced training for like before the students come to dude full simulators because they can do it at the hotel room at their house and so that their time in the actual expensive simulator is as efficient as possible. That's really interesting because there's clearly people want to be given what they need to get at their convenience and not have to go and and it's nice to see that the corporate world is realizing realizing that to take advantage of that they need companies that are innovating in that space and so taking a something that was seen as a game and now suddenly. It's becoming a corporate britt education enabler. That's pretty pretty cool yeah and this is one of the big things that we're trying to figure out in our first year at oshkosh is what what direction do do people want us to go. We know what our base currently wants and that's lots of airliners and things like that right when you put simulator. That's what people tend to want but in this space it's a little bit different and we even have i mentioned the four flight integration for flight actually has said to us well. You know what we use infinite flight all the time because is we're not happy with the solution that we had before so we fire up infinite flight. It's very fast and we can test our product so it sounds like infinite flight and let's actually talk a little bit more like a more about what it's like. It's it's mobile but it sounds pretty robust. What what is what exactly is your vision or house at with the feature center house. Tell me a little bit more about what what would experience as a as an infant flight user so the way you started as you select an aircraft region to start from an airport taxi a gate and then you get into through the cockpit and the way you control. The plane is with buttons on the side so we have a throttle on the left side where you can move it. We have controls for the engines for some the systems and everything's very easy to to grab the thumb so you don't have to move your hands around either on ipad or phone and and <hes> and then you you control the the actual ailerons and <hes> and elevator with the accelerometer so you just move the device around kind of like a cessna yoke feels like you're kind of holding a yoke and at the beginning when we see people using it they're kind of they have to get used to it but after a few minutes it's just second nature. It's very easy to to handle so i this is obviously an audio podcast. Does i'm imagining that you you have your ipad or your phone and tablet or phone and you are holding it up and sort of like a first person viewer first person shooter game where you turn turn you see different things and you are like you said controlling the action in the simulator with the direction that you're pointing the device right so the the the accelerometer and gyro and things like that those those are controlling the aircraft so to pivot your your head around you would just just put your finger your thumb on the screen and move move the camera around. If you're in cockpit view <hes> we have all kinds of cameras we have scenic view cameras so if you're making a little infant flavor air flights and movie you can put on scenic camera and it gives you lots of nice views outside the airplane but in terms of being inside the aircraft <hes> this is evolving. We have cabin views. We have backseat view in the new x. Club that we just put out and also one thing that has been surprising a lot of people here is the d- equality of rendering that we have we have satellite the imagery for the entire world in a very advanced atmospheric rendering system <hes> it's it's <hes> it's surprising that even airlines we we're catch them retweeting some of our users pitchers thinking that the real pictures you know i walked by the booth several times and i was just flabbergasted that what i was seeing on an h._d. Fifty inch screen to your bigger. T._v. was being rendered off of a tablet of some sort. It was really incredible <hes> and not the footage that you're seeing on the t._v. Is not computer generated <hes>. That's actually not footage. That's been taken on a on a ipad. Wow so we've jumped passed something pretty fascinating that you said you said four flight fires up infinite flight in order to test for flight so what is it that you're actually doing being on the back end that four flake can pretend that they're flying a plane by using infinite flight. This is probably a lower question but from my non pilot understanding and laura's a pilot so oh that's <hes> very helpful skill set but <hes> our our app basically says the same data that a d._s._p. G._p._s. unit would send <hes> four flights sees it has that if you're on the same wi fi network or you can even tether to a phone that's broadcasting <hes> internet and then <hes> away you go and it's six shows up just like it would if you were sitting being in a cockpit so when i turn on infinite play on my tablet it starts broadcasting as if i'm plugged into an eighty s b unit yes that's exactly what happens and even multiplayer system <hes> you can see all the traffic around you. That's pretty exciting. Is it live traffic or traffic of other infinite flight players. Here's traffic of infinite fight plays and we typically have between one thousand to two thousand people at a given time flying on our servers. It's pretty busy. That's very neat and i did notice when i walked by something about air traffic control. Tell me about that yeah so we have a former military or traffic controller and now civilian controller <hes> who's put together all of the phraseology and everything that you would need as a pilot and then our our users are actual air traffic controllers as well. We have three servers one with no a._t._c. One where you can practice being a controller and build up experience as a pilot and then our expert server is where we vet our a._t._c. so we have about six hundred air traffic controllers that have taken a test to actually be there and then our experienced pilots are also on that server and we have radar frequencies tower and ground as well as <hes> <hes> eight s so what someone needs to fire up infinite flight besides downloading the app is wi fi or just a mobile network internet connection shen yes that's it and how do they get started. What's download the app. Is they have to sign up. What is the mechanics of playing with infinite flight yeah so as a user and i started out this way before i was hired they you download the app for <hes> four ninety nine u._s. In the app store or google play and once there you get a selection of about fourteen aircraft one of which is the new x. cub esteem gauge for cockpit version of that <hes> our our newer aircraft have fully functional original displays which is a new feature for us <hes> which will be adding to our entire fleet at some point and then if you want to get a handful of regions oshkosh chicago new york paris and a few other places around the world and then if you want to have <hes> unlocked the whole globe and all of the aircraft breath you can subscribe for nine ninety nine a month or seventy nine ninety nine for the entire year. What about weather how can you how do you determine whether you're going to fly in or can you do at random random. Can it be something that program for it. So we have two ways in solo mode you control the visibility the winds turbulence and temperature because we support density altitude that kind of stuff and and also time and if you're in multiplayer we download the weather offers the stars and the g. o. <hes> <hes> called the databases. It'd be processed data not to the users so you have to win. Lofts temperatures pressures that we we do not have clouds yet. We're working on that. We should be having that in the next few releases so with these starting with cirrus clouds and then more more effective but we have visibility working so she fly. If you're flying into a place that has far you can see the visibility some yeah. We have hayes also if it's very hazy you what does like a low talk. You will see you will enter the suit and and have to finish. I afire so laura. Were you assume user i or a certificated pilot. I senior. I yeah flight simulator ninety eight i said when did you become a certificate pilot so two years three years after that i was working on scenery from from microsoft flight simulator that ended up selling online and disgust me the money to get my certificate in france yeah on fifty one fifty two <hes> piper arrow type of planes right so how do people what's the best way to communicate with you. What's the best way to find you and are you looking to bring more people into the company. The company question is laura but i know for sure. We're looking at adding a developer. It's a small small team. We have a team of of about a dozen people so <hes> we're growing. There's lots of room for growth as we've mentioned already <hes> if you want to get in touch with us <hes> the best way really is to go to infinite flight dot com that gives you access to our developer timeline that we've just launched it gives you access to our community forum where we have <hes> somewhere around a sixty or seventy thousand users. It's a great community to learn from. We have a lot of experience users there and get support. You can also check out on social social media which is at infinite flight on youtube twitter facebook and instagram to youtube actually has a lot of training videos that tyler knife put together to help infinite flight pilots <hes> with really specific aircraft and also procedures a._t._c. and things right now laura. What is the top one or two or three things if you could just have them right now. What would you have right now. Could people do or could you you know if they could walk in the door with what would it be. I think it would be <hes> compressing using time so we can have clouds all the instruments and buildings in the for next year so this is your first time at air venture. Is that what i understand that correctly affirmative first time exposure. We've been here like as visitors for for many years but the first time exposing now what does what made you decide to actually come and grab a not cheap booth in one of the hangars lauren. I came last year just to walk around. Make some connections and figure out. Is this something that we should be doing. <hes> obviously something we wanted to do. Everybody every avdic wants to be here but <hes> it was something we said okay. Let's just let's just budget for this. We're gonna do it. We're gonna see how it goes. <hes> we submitted in september and and <hes> luckily got a boot space and <hes> it's it's amazing. It's just a it's a good way to hear okay. What is the pilot community. We have a pretty young demographic demographic right now. It it goes up into every age group but for the most part are are curve tops out around late teens early twenty s and and so for example wants those people they want the younger crowd they've got the older crowd <hes> and we want the opposite we want to engage the older crowd more the pilots and things like that to use for practice and training and so this is this is what we came to see if we could do in its i think is successful so far bedfellows. That was my next question. Do you think that you're getting the r._o._i. Or r._o._i. Off of coming to our venture this i think so yeah the there's some of the connections that a hard to do when you haven't seen the people in person even this morning talking to companies like dine or abidine and seeing <unk> how we can interact with their products in the semen later. <hes> you know if you just email them without having seen them. I it's it's a heart to heart. Hartselle have an appreciable number of users combined said hey we've. We're a customer where a user. We love you guys or anything like that. Yeah we have a really strong community in a really a good social media following following so anytime we do an event we for example. We went to a pretty small event in cosford u._k. Last year we're going again this year. I don't remember i think the event itself has somewhere around one thousand people that attend but our community meet up that we hosted one of the knights had like almost fifty people at it so we do have we do have a great following oshkosh cautious bid different we yes. We've had lots of community members. Come up to the booth <hes>. They say you know this is one of the reasons that we came. We had one guy from <hes> a fifteen year old. He's turning fifteen in <hes> in the in the fall and his parents brought him from columbia as a birthday present to obviously be at every adventure to meet us as well. I'm assuming columbia south america not columbia maryland so that great look here next year we think so yeah it's hard to services predict how things are going. But where do you see yourselves. In three or five years i mean it's pure speculation but i would see all the features that i mentioned mentioned clouds buildings more instruments and also more professional integration with the flight schools with instruct individual instructors and possibly even training earning centers even having connections with those instruments for training or even demos books. I what would be the the the kudarat for you. What would be the thing that you will know that. This is like you've done it. You've made it time to either. Move up move on or move out that you're like. I'm happy with where it is. This is where i'm trying to go when we have every ataman universe okay so you want to be the you want to dominate the simulator world on on a mobile device. If i understand that correctly it'd be nice you know it's the you want to be the ubiquitous name that everybody says when they think of <hes> flight simulation relation the p._c. Flight simmers were still trying to <hes> to to break into that crowd and say look this is. This is a legit zip product and the cool thing about oshkosh. Is that you don't. You don't have that competition. You people stop buying go. Whoa what's this and they it doesn't matter you know we're learning and so it would be nice to whether it's youtube. Influencers in aviation or flight schools or airlines or for aircraft manufacturers are just fans or or pilots that go oh infinite flight yeah. It's part of my. It's a part of our what we do. That's that's great <hes> on that note. Thanks for speaking with us. I'm hope that if anybody has any more information you've told us the best way to get to you is infinite flight and it sounds like it's infinite infinite and multidimensional. It's not just play anywhere anytime but you really want to have every atom of the universe infinitely in your app and your in in your simulation world so thanks a lot and until then until the next time we see next year. Perhaps have a great rest of your show and this has been hello glazer for the airplane. Thanks podcast at air venture twenty nineteen all right. Thanks for that hill. It sounds like a really amazing piece of software. Yeah i mean it definitely took me by surprise and they're obviously competing with the people that go out and have multiple monitors and foot pedals was in whole instrument box cluster and yoke and stuff in there in their living room. That's their biggest competition <hes> from from a product perspective but clearly if you can do the same thing with a tablet and keep that in your pocket i think that's that's an interesting market for them. Great next up. We have robert fairbairn. I'm back again. He talked to the noah w. p. Three d. orion crew the hurricane hunters though we'll start start off with the pilot tenant commander rob mitchell okay hello out there. This is robert fairbairn again at oshkosh twenty nineteen and i'm standing in the back of the w. p. three d. orion for noah with lieutenant commander rob mitchell of noah and this is the hurricane hunters aircraft or one of them so we're gonna find out a a little bit about the aircraft and about the experience of working analysts kind of crew <hes> good morning good morning so first off. Let's tell us a little bit about how you got into flying and we're how what's cheer. Path was getting to where you're at now absolutely well. I wanted to be a pilot from a young age. I grew up in phoenix arizona and so not only did. I want to become a pilot but i also it was kinda that weather nerd that looked thunderstorms as they were coming into town and was always interested in what made them cook so as i was looking to college. I was trying to figure out what i wanted wanted to do. And being that i wanna pilot i was looking for that aviation university and my mother being the smart lady that she is said that <hes> as you go try to become a pilot it airlines are cyclical and this was in just after nine eleven two thousand one so she was like hey. You got to have a backup plan. So when i went to college i pursued two degrees. One was in meteorology and the other one is in aviation <hes> a graduate of the university of north dakota. Go see you or whatever we are now and so after that as i was starting to finish college i was trying to decide what i wanted to do with my life at the time. Airlines weren't hiring quite as well so as i was finishing school really the the meteorology side of the things was <hes> kinda more intriguing to me so as i was looking around the internet i found <hes> advertisement for the hurricane hunters and as i clicked around and realize what they were <hes> i started the process to apply to get in so typically. The noah core is who we are. We are one of the uniform services of the united states just like the air force and the coast scarred and so to apply you go to the recruiter and you get commissioned into the note chord typically they say you you might have to serve on one of the research ships that we have for a year to you just like the coastguard does and then you can go into the aviation track at which point if you don't have any time they'll train you up to be a pilot we operate on commercial certificates so we just go through insure commercial multi instrument training and then you come to us and we'll start you off with one of our light aircraft so we actually operate nine aircraft <hes> we have four twin otters a a couple of years and <hes> eric commander kind of are light aircraft and then we have to p three's an a. g. four that we operate for our hurricane research so as you start up on the light aircraft gained in some experience and then you can apply to transition to one of the heavy aircraft very cool so you went through some of those light aircraft as well on your way here but did you do your initial pilot training in in the car or did you do it outside before you came in so i did my training at the university of north dakota and so being that i had all those tickets with me those all applied so i actually did not go go to commercial training through the no war <hes> and they just utilize those tickets and i went straight to the twin otter which is where i spent the first five years of my career okay so once you're in the service here you know obviously see the different aircraft have different roles. I think this one is probably the one that confuses people the most in that you're the guys who go actually into the hurricane and this is the only one that does that is that right <hes> so this is the only the <hes> platform we've got to p. Three's two threes go into the hurricane low level <hes> in addition to that we work with partners in the air force so there is the fifty third reserve squadron one that has c. one thirties that they do hurricane reconnaissance we do hurricane reconnaissance and hurricane research with this aircraft that research aspect is kind of what makes life interesting okay so so tell us a little bit about. What's what's different about flying this aircraft. If that's if that's particularly interesting but also what you know what does it mean to be go flying into a hurricane versus other kinds of flying that you may have done so you know obviously it's different from an airline but what is what is your typical day. Look like flying this aircraft into a hurricane a couple of questions there so <hes> the typical day is we are <hes> <hes> from june first to the end of november's the hurricane season so during that timeframe where essentially standing by for tasking now occasionally we'll do other research projects during that time but for the most part we're waiting for the national hurricane center and an organization within that called karkeh to task us so there are taskmasters they divvy up the tasking between us and the air force so if a the <hes> have research priorities the hurricane research division at the national hurricane center will then task us to fly into storm for a specific purpose typically they identify an open wave or tropical storm that might be forming will get a flight plan from them from the researchers what they wanna do and we'll translate that add into actually what we can do and then we'll go out and collect their research typically when we start a storm we wanna see the life cycle of that storm so we'll end up doing twelve twelve hour flights or twelve hour cycles really eight hour flights round the clock on that storm until either the storm peers out or research initiatives are complete so typically that's three or four flights for each cruise about eight flights total against from a flying standpoint. You know what do you do differently. In terms of handling the aircraft are you. How much are you working on autopilot versus hand flying and and what are your what's what would be different for someone jumping in if they've even someone who flew a similar aircraft jumping and flying hurricane gain mission with you guys yes so the great thing about the p. Three is it is a nineteen seventy five plane and we have a avionics upgrades but for the most part is pilots plane. We have an autopilot l. and we use it for crews but as we get into the storm environment where pretty much flying in hand would you have the autopilot on just for some control buffering but we are controlling the plane in hand and as we enter the storms and unlike what you typically learn in aviation training as you fly around severe weather we don't avoid it by twenty nautical miles and you know make our pirate so as we go in the way that our crew works. We've got two pilots and a flight engineer and the flight station. We've got a flight director which is onboard meteorologist sitting behind us and we have a navigator and so the five of us work primarily for safety of flight and executing the mission so between the five of us the pilot seat is a pilot flying the flight engineer in the middle title he works all the systems and the engines and so what we do is as we go into the storm we flyer maneuvering speed which in our case is two hundred ten knots and <hes> we work together so the guy is manipulated the controls try to maintain pitch and bank as we enter the storm the flight engineer he's got control the power levers and he's maintaining airspeed says house. We go through that turbulence updraft. We're gonna cause airspeed increased downdraft. They're gonna cause airspeed to decrease and so he's going to adjust the power levers pretty rapidly in order to maintain pain. Our target airspeed the guy in the right seat kind of our overall big picture safety guy so he's calling out airspeed. He's gone now pitch rule making sure that we're crabbing into the storm appropriately because remember we've got a left crosswind of one hundred thirty nuts so we're actually flying typically thirty. Maybe even forty five degrees off of our news as we try to enter the storms. We're looking at our nose. Weather radar are multi mode billy radar and all the sensors that we have to try to find that center the storm. It has happened where you missed the center of the storm. You're you the of dead reckoning into the center and and you miss it so we want to make sure that we actually get into that center. Okay sounds good. It's pretty pretty complicated flight operation so what's a four crew on this aircraft looked like obviously the five in the front and i imagine some scientists as well absolutely. We got five in the front. We've got our data operator who maintains satellite network so that we can get the data in near real time off the aircraft and back to the national hurricane center for use in their models so he sits in the center of the plane and then here in the back of the plane. We are eight apps operators. There's typically one or two crew members that operate this system which is where we launch our drop bathymetric booze out of the plane which measure data data which has been back to receivers aircraft that can then get assimilated into the data stream back to the national hurricane center so that's five six seven sometimes eight people minimum and and then we can take up to twenty people on the plane so we do have some extra seats for visiting researchers who might be looking at a specific aspect of that storm and if you media make sense okay so let's let's switch gears a little bit here. Obviously you do a fairly unique job. What are things that you <hes>. What do you think are misconceptions. People have about this <hes> this aircraft or the mission or or what it's like to work work in this environment so everybody asks <hes>. Is it really dangerous and i would argue. Not really i mean we do we enter the storm with a very overt purpose and we kinda <hes> us operational risk management or everything we do and as a crew by working together we can really accomplish pretty much anything we need to to research. Hurricanes hurricanes genes themselves are a lot different than say mid west thunderstorms that you might see flying around where there's not as much hail. There's oftentimes rarely much lightning and we fly the plane even at a low altitude between eight and ten thousand feet which keeps us below the freezing level so we're not dealing with icing times. We've kind of mitigated a lot of those factors that you would get yourself in trouble with by flying through kind of a single cell thunderstorm so it's not as dangerous and as far as the aircraft goes but it's done well. What are the big questions that we get is why the turboprop engines <hes> so the turboprops are really important for our flight because they have instant power available <hes> they're constant speed turboprops unlike p._t. Six which might it be that <hes> free turbine design so by being constant speed as you add power. The only thing that's changing is the pitch of the props and that's giving you that instant power spot so you can climb through ooh those gusts as you got it so you have a response almost like a direct drive proper close to it correct absolutely any other <hes> well. Let's not modification in per se but are there any modifications to the airframe other than the science stuff anything for for aerodynamic purposes or structural purposes or just just basically the the original airplane plus the gear yeah. It's the original airplane as <hes> lockheed. Martin designed it. They designed to good plane so <hes> we're going to flying it again. It's an older design with a big fat stubby wing so we don't get a lot of flex like you might get with the airliner's nowadays so having that design really helps us go through those <hes> those gusts enough so last question. I'll give you as you know if you were talking to somebody nobody younger or or maybe not so young somebody thinking about getting into a career in this world or or something similar something more in the sort of an unusual track in the science world. What what advice would you have form on. What thoughts would you give them. You know what would you tell somebody. Maybe reasons to go for reasons to stay away. What what would you want to advise. People absolutely so the noah core as a uniform services really unique career just like any of the military services you do five tours in an aviation operational tour and then you go sit at a desk and learn something new for a couple of years and then you kind of rotate back so there is that constant moving. There's the exploration learning something new every time but there's also a lot of time away from your family time away from home and quite commitment there we typically travel any are light aircraft. Guys will travel two hundred days out of the year so more than half the year and then our heavy guys will travel about four months out of the year on average so it's a bit of a commitment to the family but it's a great adventure and you get to do some really cool things. I've gotten to go to greenland. I've gone to ireland of done on the entire coastline of the united states thousand feet and it's it's really unique adventure so i would highly encourage it very cool. Thank you very much for your time. We appreciate it absolutely thank kim. Did you guys catch that reference to having a little bit of space a few seats for media. I totally we caught that man either robert. You've got to send <hes> send me rob mitchelson contact information. I wanna see if i can get a spot on one of these p. Threes that sounds incredibly exciting. You wanna fly on me or miss piggy <hes> yes. I think <hes> have you haven't been on those either of those heavy david. No i've flown on p. three but no i haven't been i i just i just know that the three hurricane hunters there's for noah are gonna was g for which is their high altitude aircraft and the two p. Threes are miss piggy. Ian kermit cool right next up robert talked with engineer nick underwood and todd richards technician. This is robert again. I'm standing here with nick. Underwood is an engineer with no on the w._p._a. Three d. o. rien so we're gonna get a little bit on the science side here as well good morning good morning so tell us a little bit about how you ended up in this position. How'd you get into the job and find yourself lost in the back of an orion flying through storms so i got my bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering from west virginia university <hes> i worked for about a year as a flight test engineer for naval air systems command working with f. eighteens and at thirty five and then i wanted the to do something a little more science focused and so i started applying for jobs with nasa. Noah and noah offered me this position and been doing it for almost three years now and you like it. I absolutely love it i i. I really can't imagine doing anything else right now. I'm not sure anything else would be as much fun as this job is so first off. Tell us a little bit about what your job entails on the aircraft. I mean obviously we know what the pilots do and and rob gave us a little run down on the cooperation between the flight director and navigator and guys up there making that side things work. What are you doing back here. <hes> so on the grounds <hes> i'm an observer so i help with engine starts <hes> after we get off the ground i helped set condition four so a systems check of the aircraft making sure that everything's working as it should and then once we get in the environment i am what's called the apps operators. That's airborne vertical atmospheric profiling system and basically szekely. I sit in the seats and throughout the course of emission i'll drop about twenty to thirty drops on which think them as a reverse weather balloon so instead of standing on the ground around letting it float up we're up in the air we drop them down and as they fall down they collect atmospheric temperature pressure humidity wind speed wind direction all of that data gets relayed in real time back to the aircraft and so quality controls and other thing <hes> that i do making sure that the data makes sense and then once we collect all that data we send it off to the national hurricane center and they feed it into their models that predict trump's gonna go and how strong it's going to be okay so then <hes> besides the drop zones. What kind of equipment do you have on the aircraft as well <hes> so we've we've got three radar systems on board one of those one on the lower fuselage and one of the tale <hes> so as we're flying along those are all operating collecting data for us <hes> during any mission will have some kind of scientists on board and they'll have <hes> it's a it's a variety of instruments and it swaps out throughout the year so sometimes we'll have an instrument called the doppler wind lighter which is a lighter system. That's can get a win vectors. As we're flying along <hes> we've also got a cod physics probe <hes> out in the wing thing <hes> so that looks at <hes> rain droplets size velocity and speed <hes> swirling that data's well we also collect data so we dropped what are called expertise airborne expendable baths thermographic and they worked kinda like drop zones. Do they give you a profile but instead of the atmosphere it's the ocean and so as they sit down they give us a ocean temperature profile. How does that tie into what you're doing. Withdrawn that part of your operation during the flight or is that somebody else doing that as well. That's my job a lot of times. We'll have those externally loaded <hes> and so my job is to fire them off. The scientists fired off. We can also launched them from inside the cabin as well so we've got the free fall shoot so we can depressurize the aircraft and sort of dumped them out all right. What are some misconceptions or things that people seem to get wrong about your job in about working in this environment <hes> so when we tell people we fly through the storm a lotta times they think that we fly over the storm and then down into the eye but no we are at eight to ten thousand feet the whole time crashing right through the eye wall <hes> and so we were in the store environment getting the worst of it but that's where we get really good data and that's the data that's going to be important to feed those models so i heard you guys joking about. This and i'm gonna go ahead ask you. You know you sit here in the back and you trust those guys in the front to know what they're doing. How how does that get to you in the in flight. Obviously you guys sure you work well together but what's likes it in the back act knowing what's going on and not really not being in control at all of what's going on. I mean these are these are some of the best guys in the business <hes> everyone from the maintainers to the pilots flight engineers <hes> so i i trust everyone on this aircraft you know to deal with they're supposed to do i know that they're trained just as hard as i have to be ready for the mission environment that we're getting into and so one of the misconceptions that people actually think we do cloud seeding that we actually causes storms or that we can weaken a storm or something like that which is totally untrue. We don't do anything like that. We're not now people see us fine over. They talk about contrails and all that kind of stuff. It's total conspiracy theory stuff and that's not what we do. We're out there. We're like a black hole in the storm. We're just suck in all the data that we can. You know the physics of the storm itself and just had the straight. What's your name and urine engineers wells that right now my name's todd richards and i'm an inflight technician so i would also sit back here at the drops on station and i also run the data station with the radars and stuff like that other things i'll ask you you know if somebody's thinking about trying to come into this line of work or something like it. Get into this career any advice any suggestions. Stay the hell away or this great. What would you tell somebody. That's maybe at that point in their life where they're trying to decide if this is something for them <hes> have passion for science. I mean we do a lot more than just hurricanes. We support a whole host of scientific missions. <hes> and that's really early. What i love about. This job is knowing that the work. I do everyday matters to someone i would also recommend a strong stomach if you're going to hurricane stuff so you can't get get seasick easily. Air sicknesses is not something that if you're susceptible to it don't do this you don't want to i mean we have air sickness bags but you know we're run out the one more question. I'll ask you is that cloud physics per. We were talking about outside. You know tell me a little bit about what that is measuring and what kind of data it's collecting place and so the club physics probes outside on on the pylon along the left hand side of the wing. There's three of them. They're each one of them has a laser measuring instrument in it so it is actually a laser beam either going vertical or horizontal and it's measuring different sizes of water droplets in the in the cloud so it's looking at frozen water particles. It's it's looking at rain. Droplets is looking at at christie's ice crystals. Just basically the cloud physics of the makeup of the clouds. You know what's what's in them basically basically okay and then that day gets <hes> fed into models or is that for research side. What's that what's the application for it. It's more of a research side of it. <hes> the models really you don't have a or they don't have a way of inserting actually into the models <hes> the models are looking more for <hes> wins and and you know the the the information that we collect from the drop zones are dot their tail radar information that has also given us you know a doppler image of the storm arm is refined through it all that information gets goes into new models and and that that cone of probability the probability track you see that on the the weather channel and stuff these will actually cut that cone down almost in half without that information in there. We're talking could be hundreds of miles of coastline that would have to be evacuated and at a cost of two hundred million dollars billion dollars who knows okay cool. Thanks guys appreciate it and then finally on the p. Three orion crew robert talked with flight director. Check perish aereas all right so we're going to go one more step here with the w p three orion here the no accrue. I'm standing with jack perez. She's a flight flight director with noah on on this aircraft good morning. Hey how're you doing doing well. Thank you so tell me a little bit about what your job entails as a flight director on the noah p. three agree. We fly a number of different kinds of research. The one that gets the most publicity courses in hurricanes but for instance. We just got back from saliva. We were flying tornadoes thunderstorms in there in the month of may we carry a bunch of research scientists with us and we have a flight crew that knows a lot about flying airplanes not quite as much about meteorology. There's a sort of a liaison liaison person and that's me okay yeah. It says i understand it. You're kind of your half-science and half aviation is. You're the liaison between to kind of tie together. The flight plans ends with the that's correct okay so tell me a little bit about how that comes about how do you how do you structure what emissions gonna look like. One of the things that happens is that for instance the beginning <music> hurricane season. We work with a hurricane research group. They put together a book of here. The modules we wanna fly here the kind of patterns we wanna fly and of course they always do that on an idealized hurricane. What are we go out there and fly not an idealized hurricane there you deal with a real hurricane so we will go out there with a concept of flight and we'll put that together and we'll talk about. Hey what's safe to do what isn't safe to do. How well can we do this and make sure that everybody in the airplane safe and then we get out there and the plan has to change because the weather is different so we have to be able little really be on the balls of our feet back and forth between the pilots and the scientific crew and how can you modify the science hat. We modify the flight. Keep everybody safe. Mike in a little rock and roll but keep everybody safe and again if we can't get one hundred percent of the science. Let's go for ninety eight percent so often we get so close to one hundred percents amazing that sounds cool so basically adjusting everything on the fly to get as much as you can while staying in your safety window absolutely we have <hes> we have we actually have pictures of the idealized storm norman we sorta hold that up against the radar and say okay. Here's how it's different so here's how we're going to deal with. This difference in these differences can be profound an asymmetric storm even this week tropical storm barry. Hey we did a week and a half ago. Storm was completely empty on the north. Side is a terrible terrible rough rain band on the south side. We dealt with both sides for scientific purposes and <hes> you know kept kept a real good pattern going but we had to adapt to the fact that it was so asymmetrical okay so let's go another way. How did you end up here. What's your background in aviation or elsewhere science. And how did you find yourself in this role just one of those stories and it's a good one for high school kids because i was the world's worst high school kid and not aww destined for anything good academically afterward but this magical thing came along called the us coast guard. I signed up at seventeen said. I can't even do junior college. I'm going to be a miserable failure. They put me on coast guard cutters. They taught me radar. They taught me navigation and it it was an amazing discovery. I could actually do math that had to be practical article math useful math stuff that kept you from crashing into coral reefs and stuff like that so then after a while i was out there in the coastguard track weather balloons with radar. I learned radar and <hes> <hes> so that was interesting enough that it was like okay. What am i gonna do. After four years of the coast guard go get a meteorology degree went to the counselor said show me the list of math. Course i have to take take. They showed me this list that went down to the floor. I said don't ever ever show me that list again. I just have to tackle them. One math class at a time what happened when i got out of at a degree <music> at florida state they needed somebody with meteorology degree with experience in radar the two juxtaposed flew for three years and radar research <hes> on these airplanes and the first first time full a fulltime job as a flight director popped open. I was in. I was there a guy. So how long have you been doing this now. I started in one thousand nine hundred eighty. My first hurricane was hurricane allen one and i've been through the centre hurricanes five hundred ninety nine times so looking for one more. Oh i am i am. I've been shut out for two years so i wear this patch. It says more than five hundred looking forward to the more than six hundred very cool. So have you been out here at oshkosh before yes actually <hes> the noah was able to send the noah g. for the high altitude research aircraft and we were only here for two and a half days last year we came in on sunday left on tuesday this year. We get to be here a lot longer longer and we get a lot more people through the airplane so we're really looking forward to this. Year's visit very cool so i'll go a little bit different direction here advice thoughts things you would tell people about <hes> if they're interested in getting into something in this kind of this kind of environment a flight and science or some kind of mixed mixed job like that really good question what we always tell the school. Oh kids is stem. If i had been told that advice i would not have followed it as a kid but nevertheless that ends up being the background you on science technology math engineering. They're they're all marvelous fields and working in working for the noah hurricane hunters. We have exactly six flight directors in the whole fleet. So what are your odds. It's getting one of those jobs pretty darn remote but to work in the field of meteorologist fascinating the military employees a bunch of folks that do that sort of thing including the c. One on thirty fleet <hes> media is fascinating. How you convey the weather to people <hes> the national weather service employs a zillion meteorologist so it's a really promising field <hes> <hes> nowadays to get a good job. You probably have to get a masters degree so you have to plan on spending some time in school k and one more thing. What kind of misconceptions do you hear about your the job and also just about working with these aircraft and in this kind of role great question. I don't get that one very often but the one of them might be that every flight is this is terror ridden horribly turbulent flight where only people that are absolutely nuts do this and honestly we carry media. We carry dignitary terry sometimes on board and they're like gee. Where's the beef <hes> we want. We expected more violent well. If it was truly violent every time we went out there. No one would do this for a living. So part of what what we're doing is is blending in turbulent flight and we certainly see plenty of turbulence emmy zero g every now and then but it isn't it isn't that we do keep it well under control and can really do a lion share the research while keeping everybody perfectly safe and then the other thing is we are observers so unfortunately we get the questions is about not only. Where's the storm going to be in seven days which we don't do because we're not forecasters re say go to the hurricane. Center and brilliant people work there. Please get your advice from the national hurricane pain center website <hes> everybody else out there is essentially relating their information so go to them and when it comes to things that are going to change in one hundred years global warming honestly. That's not what i do. I go out there and observant every day so <hes>. I don't have a good answer for that. I don't doubt that we are having an impact on the the environment but i don't have any proof of that understood so your job basically you go out you gather the data and you pass it on to specialize in processing it exactly right and it's a hard hard thing to tell the people that we're talking with their like <hes> because these are people that i do phone interviews with national media while you're right there in the center of the storm so really where's it going and it's like really i don't know i only know exactly where it is and i am getting precise measurements that are gonna initialized the models and the spaghetti models and the other different from kinds of the global models. They're going to gain from us being out there sending this data in but where it goes from there there are people that are whole lot better at at interpreting goes models than me understood. Thank you very much for your time. You're welcome your mom all right. We're gonna take a quick break a very short break. I think as many of you know you launch pad murray is working on getting himself a new airplane and he's got a few installments for us of that process and this is part one plane by episode one. The thought process like many of our listeners. I've always dreamed about owning my own airplane thinking about where i could go how i would fly how much fun it would be and i thought and always said i said when i get older. I'm going to buy an airplane well. Last year. I woke up to find out i was old. I never thought of myself as old and adult. Yes yes but old no. I always thought of myself as young. This was reinforced by most of my friends. Call me a mature but the real realization said that if i was going to take ten to fifteen year loan and enjoy an airplane the time to start doing it was here and now in the meantime i set aside a budget for renting aircraft and this was keeping me current and was meeting. Most of my flying needs but it wasn't my i aeroplane. I explored fractional ownership but in my current situation didn't seem like anything i'd be able to make work. I want to emphasize that. There's nothing wrong with fractional or it. Just wasn't for me at this time in my life and renting was actually becoming more economical comical as the f._b._i. Renting from ketchum bay here in central texas was continuously upgrading their cessna one seventy twos and their system one seventy seven while keeping their rental prices down but yet. I wanted my own airplane especially for doing cross countries as i walked around sudden air venture and be aa. I looked at different airplanes but the airplanes i wanted the airplanes i needed and the airplanes i could afford never seem to be on the same ven diagram circles weren't even the same whiteboard sitting down and taking a stronger objective look at it. There was no business for financial case that i needed an airplane mica sailboat a motorcycle the sidecar or a single seat track car. There is no need for these machines just want it was realizing to myself that i they wanted one just for the pure pleasure of it and if i ever just happen to be able to get a one time practical trip out of it that would be a bonus with that truth spoken. I casually cast about looking at new and used airplanes gliders l._s. A small clubs sirius' polat goddesses biz jets helicopters. Nothing was off the table. The mission was for an aircraft was just to have fide flied so i sat down and tried to quantify fine in the ninety side worked on an algorithm to quantify what cool planes are so. I went back and adjusted the for a new century. Don't worry dear listeners. I'm not going to bore you with that process but once i figured out why thought certain airplanes were more fun than others that helped narrow the search but this led to a big number of airplanes on the list but now at least i had a criteria degrade mission versus capability multiplied by fine cross index by support race to the power of coolness and all divided by the purchase cost well. Let's samir plants next episode. The airplane selects me this report. Large frequency change approved could all right thank you launch pad partout coming next week all right continuing on mike <hes> in i attended the wings and wheels event at the owls head transportation museum in maine and we'll be bringing you a number knbr of conversations that we recorded there but mica and i encountered the well and an elderly gentleman sitting shared front one of one of the hangars during the show and when we discovered <hes> who this individual was a we had to try and record a conversation with them so so first. Mike is going to give a little introduction. I've been a fan of talking heads since their first album. Talking heads seventy seven always loved the song psycho killer killer among others. I also really like tom. Tom club and their song genius of love okay. So what does that have to do with the airplane geeks well basis for the talking heads and founder of tom. Tom club is tina weymouth still not following me well. Tina weymouth's father is naval aviator retired vice admiral ralph weymouth currently the oldest living graduate of the us naval academy in annapolis but those aren't the only things admiral weymouth amos is known for he's loan curtis s._b._c. Hell divers douglas s._p._d.'s dauntless grumman f nine f panthers yes his his career as a naval aviator was long enough that he transitioned from byplanes to jet fighters. Admiral weymouth is a recipient of the navy cross for actions against the the japanese navy in the battle of the philippine sea. He was also awarded the legion of merit twice and the distinguished flying cross four times. We were able to catch up with admiral weymouth. Who's not too far from the outset transportation museum now bear in mind at one hundred and two years old admiral weymouth is is rather soft spoken so you need to pay particularly close attention as he speaks with us. We have met an incredible person here at the museum. We are speaking with admiral ralph. Weymouth who is the oldest living graduate of annapolis and former former world war two navy pilot and korean war naval pilot admiral weymouth welcome to the airplane geeks podcast glad to be here are glad to be here for many reasons glad to talk with you ever weymouth's you graduated the academy and then how long was before you started flying for the navy navy wouldn't let me fly route rather bay ladder to two years of shipboard duty which i did in the mediterranean on light cruisers and during that time the war started so i finally wound up and i mary at that time in nineteen forty cal i have met see slope in france and we are married in lisbon in nineteen june june nineteen forty. There was almost immediately after that i it's not in flight training at pensacola in nineteen august of nineteen forty and do you remember what you trained in. What was the first aircraft you were. Flying was that the the yellow perils there were called perils did and i was flying into s.'s in in three of the entry end was built. Oh by the naval aircraft factory and i think philadelphia the time and into us stephen built model the same things eh. I've had a flight of stairs. Which was he chia. Thank was called <hes>. Which was the airforce initial trading machine machine head that right here a couple of weeks ago. That's amazing maximum. I just got to fly in today for our our first time in the p. T. seventeen seventeen and i it was amazing when you were in the academy. Did you know you wanted to go into navy. Aviation right then no was a water or in person person background people many of them were mainers and on ships sail the world sailing ships tips and so i was more oriented toward sales at that time so you got out of the the p._t. Seventeen and and and then you started you carry a base at that point. What did you start flying off the carriers <hes> well my flight training was from august to january august nineteen forty until january at which time i was shifted to further trading in opel vectra near miami and so by so i was finished with that and i was listen to my first classroom so i drove across the country like an okay my car full of skis <hes> yeah heaters and whatnot i really looked like it okay and california and joined a squadron and san diego and what it <hes> what k- what carrier we stationed on. What were you flying at the time at the time my reported they were fly. I think s. b. C. threes agrees a biplane but they were shifting into s._p._d.'s so rare in this week he's quite quite soon <music> but of course ward and start until that following december by that time i i was on the saratoga and i learned to land take off out there with that squadron and growing up my own family. They're living in coronado and dive bombing quite frequently get to be able apply all kinds of different airplanes. That's where through my first j. f. Our good on watched targets for the squadron mates bombing. You know you're the first carrier pilot that i've ever met that has not been shot off a carrier that had to actually take off off a carrier. Can you describe what it's like to take off from such a. She really short field takeoff but you've got to be up in the air. Can you describe a takeoff from with with an s._p._d.'s from from this era toga role. It's pretty simple. Carrier can be maneuvered to maximize the amount of wind over the fight back so you can be as close as we'll say a hundred insisted insist feet from the ship gets enough speed turn that hundred and fifty feet to the equivalent of maybe eight hundred feet or so on on field so it's quite a simple thing just fly off is like lying on steal. One of the alternatives is to be catapulted. Ought to saratoga had one cat approach on the starboard side and that was up in the bow and and when you hooked onto the cable so we're going to pull you into the air <hes> your maybe maybe your hundred and fifty feet back from abou- and so you climbed onto the track and use the bridal matt matt airplane bridal went from a hook it went up the track buried in the deck and there was a whole back system awesome pulled back and so you were tightened up so that you will be held back and you had a bridal. It's going to take your head and i don't know how many g's you get in that on that system. All the machinery is down on weight on the bowels of a ship and it's about ten to one moving pistons down below is air pushing into a to a piston and the piston has things so that for every foot bisset moves and the muslim ships down. They're the topside moosh tenzin. Let's see all h._a. Catapult and the you you can do all kinds of wrong things as all of us can with machines and by the time we were. We were fighting chef cobbles. We'll be demanded high-speed. They wanna be a relaunch playing every ten or fifteen second accountable operating operating crew on deck figured out a way of cheating cheating on the system they use the movement of the rydell park to do the tensioning by the way you were held back and a a device. They're used the ring of breaking the one with foolhardy enough by the vital break. An author shootdown was act like a slingshot he will actually the use of buydell bindel program works on the plane in russia. It had to be true. True often had a bomb there and so the book went around the the bomb so system and this are actually trey turned out to be making an error because there are moving pistons down below too far so it wasn't as smooth food application. It was sufficient to tear apart the bridal of course rydell. Never you never know about bio right because bridal flew off into the ocean and so the listener there got to the point where i was was squadron commander by this time and i have desperate what was going wrong because one pilot got up he managed to get his airplane stopped as his nose wheel over the <hes> with the fast nines and another one who and he got up high enough so the win on his tail and pulled him back down and he didn't go over. We had one who did gore went down. He was underneath the ship for the full length of the ship. Movement got past the propellers lower. Now we're getting hurt and he popped up destroyer. Pick him up also of mechanical problems that are desperate. Sometimes that must have been an incredible transition from an s._p._d. To a to an f nine with going from from piston radial piston engine to a to a turbine i made the shift father easily had just taken command of this f nine squadron and in coronado by weather and they said you ought to take our fancy airplane here. We can get you ten hours. There's are easily in ada one. I think it was a fissile than airplane. Smooth everywhere around and you go from a standing stop at sea level matt ago and go to get to ten thousand feet in in sixty seconds so you can see this was kind of a super airplane and it was a good introduction for me. Get orange into the jets. They went to yes be c. Threes i think we had biplane and few weeks before i joined the squadron. Somebody had creamed himself right on the target. Whether it was true or not it was said around around the squadron that the accident report said loose loose nut on stick well what probably who actually happened was we. We used oxidant because we'd go up to twenty two thousand feet or so racial three or four fives on practice and we use oxygen oxygen bottle overnight there in the cockpit us us every other tube and and we hoped to onto a pipe stem because the pipe stem had some configuration you can put it between your teeth and so you could you could you know they don't even talk taught us how how much oxygen me needed and marina is a fast. They could take us up fast up up to say twelve thousand feet. We might be unconscious by that time and so that most of us were very very obedient to this need ruxton but there were a lot of guys that prided themselves on being every twenty two thousand and then dieback account and say oh i can do it every time so this loose sick on the end of loose nut on the end of the stick probably one of those who left his pipes some at home and you can see that pipe stand configuration if you're interested in it in the nineteen nineteen forty two film of forty-three film dive bomber with errol flynn and fred macmurray which kind of shows what that looks like and weymouth. I wanna thank you so much for being a guest here on the airplane. Thank you thank you for speaking with us. We really appreciate it we also had to we had to go with ronald reagan reagan made a movie of my squadron had there was a lot of once more for the movies guys now. We have one of the things that was fun that we did an eighteen. We are circular matt monro on carnall. We had a circular match so retarded. Tell you were what you were trying to. Have you land on here but the matt was big enough that we did an eighteen plane squadron eighteen points in a big be for ronald reagan sir. Thank you again. Thank you so much. You're well. Thank you david <hes> the whole time we were wishing at you there air to join the conversation. We could've gone on with the admiral for the rest of the afternoon. Easily folks like that have just so many interesting acting stories from the wars. I'm more surprised at how sharp he was very clear spoke. It takes a lot to remember how a catapult system works on this era togo. Yes forties. I so you guys did a really good job. It's a really cool interview in just for the record. I did not order up that radial engine straight in the middle of our conversation. I hope that wasn't too annoying. Hill l. you had had an opportunity to talk to a couple of folks from emilia's landing yeah million landing <hes> the name it does does actually refer to amelia earhart is a aviation themed hotel and the proprietors jane. Mary horneck are thirty seven consecutive year attendees of oshkosh but in the last decade or so they've been coming up from puerto aransas which is an island off the coast of texas where they have this emilia's landing hotel and they also do some pretty interesting things out on the north forty general aviation camping site so i've been associated with them for a few years since we met to wash three oshkosh's ago now and i figured it <hes> be a fun opportunity to ask them. How did they get all into this and what's their story. This is hello glazer innovation and entrepreneurship correspondent for the airplane geeks podcast on location at ya air venture twenty nine thousand nine in fact. We are on the north forty. The north forty is the area of camping where planes fly in the park and they put their tent outside the camp but we are in a very large tent at the moment we are here with jay jay and mary hoenig own amelia's landing which is hotel in puerto ricans as texas. Let's start with what is amelia's landing. Actually amelia's landing ending is an aviation themed hotel in port aransas texas. Each room is a different era of aviation history. You can start with the wright brothers and work your way up to the modern jet era. What did you do before starting this hotel. Well we owned the alexis park in suites in iowa city iowa. Which was our first. I aviation themed hotel. <hes> we started that one. I don't want him back in two thousand two thousand two and we owned that one until twenty twelve we actually overlapped and owned both of them for a couple of years until we quickly determined that that was impossible awesome to run to aviation themed hotels thirteen hundred miles apart so now we're all down in texas. Have you been in hospitality your whole careers that you do something before that at no no we were. I'm a newspaper guy. Mary's a medical technologist <hes> we knew nothing about hotels when we bought the first one except what we like about hotels and what we hit about hotels and there's the jets going off. This is the north forty. This is really at oshkosh so so that's the ambiance we get because we didn't know what we were doing. We just made a list of and here comes again. We made a list of everything we hated about hotels on one side of the sheet and what we liked about hotels on the other side of the sheet and that became became our business plan and we systematically eliminated everything. We hate an edit everything. We like an amazingly that worked seventeen years later her. We're still in the business. This is your second aviation themed hotel and what is there an airport near this hotel yup mustang hang beach airport is in port aransas texas. It's less than two miles from the airport and we'll come fetch it and bring you on into the hotel <hes> from there you. I can walk to everything. Do you have a lot of guests who do that. Who fly in or do they fly in someplace else or they just come for the ation team's hotel yeah. It's about ninety. Five five percent is non pilots who are just aviation enthusiast. <hes> in about five percent of our guests fly in. That's a pretty interesting so you are a lot of people coming out who are not necessarily pilots or flying in there just like the themes right. It's it's <hes> people who have have always either liked aviation or just like our hotel because we do things that no one else does speaking of which do you conduct. Any sort of specialization themed events events at the hotel to attract groups or just to make people aware of that. It's an aviation themed hotel at port aransas. Oh we've done fly ins <hes> we've hosted hosted fly ins but <hes> nothing real specific that way. We're incredibly busy so it's <hes> there's really no way to find the time to do you anything more. What attracted you to port aransas well. We went there on vacation ourselves back. In two thousand nine and fell in love with the island fell fell in love with the beach fell in love with the whole ambience speaking of ambience. That's six. We fell in love with the ambiance of the the island life. <hes> it's so different than anywhere else we've ever been and <hes> we just fell in love with it in decided well. Let's let's get an a a hotel down in the sun belt and it took a while but we pulled it off so for people who don't have access to google at the moment and they're are not very geographically inclined. Could you tell us a little bit about where is port aransas and what's the climate like port aransas is located <hes>. If you're familiar with galveston austin <hes> you know where that is we are <hes> south of there and north of corpus christi so kind of between the two big cities city's <hes> the climate there is subtropical so it's pretty warm in the summer and very pleasant in the winter. It's just a great place so the every hotel has some kind of challenges to either running it or attracting business. Are there anything in particular that's unique about. <hes> hotel puerto ricans that is aviation's themed to keeping going. It's extremely seasonal. So of course staffing is always fun. <hes> we've got excellent staff and with good people apple cup running it for us as we're up here but <hes> you're very slow in the winter. November is like very few people we do our winter texans in the december january february they come down for a month two months just to get out of the mid west mostly <hes> but summers is just you know gangbusters the whole all summer long. You're sold out every weekend in advance. You know barely have time to breathe. Let alone do anything else but that's why everybody comes there. You learn to be like a squirrel roll down there. It's not like our hotel in iowa. That was pretty much the same business year round we make our money for about sixteen weeks a year and we lose money the rest of the year <hes> it's it's very strange so you have two sock it away like a squirrel so you can live on it over the winter. I i just find it incredible that the founders owners of a hospitality business that is seasonal and it's in the middle of the high season and you're here at oshkosh you guys have got ought to be seriously dedicated to flying to oshkosh. When did you start flying. These are the two statistically busiest weeks of the year and we're we're here which is nuts but yeah just refuses to move the event. We've tried to get them to move it. They won't and so we have to keep coming <hes>. This is our the thirty seven th year in a row here so <hes>. When did we start flying. Was that the question. I got my license in ninety four and you get yours ninety eight who in the family or pilots just us our and our son. Our son is a pilot too. Were you in aviation first or hospitality. I think if i do the math you were in hospitality. I yeah hospitality was not even a thought until about two thousand two were were you aviation enthusiasts before then or did you become aviation enthusiast as a result of getting your pilots licenses. I've i've been in aviation enthusiasts since birth. I'm pretty sure and somehow managed to infect my wife with it. <hes> somewhere around nineteen eighty eight degrees our first year here so yeah you flew up in an r._v. Something of either an r._v. What it's an r._v. Eight a. r. v. eight as so it's a to place or and home built but you didn't build it correct. It's it was built by a guy in arizona and this is not your first aircraft. I understand no. We've had multiple airplanes over the years so clearly aviation has been something you couldn't you know outgrow in your d._n._a. When you started attending us what was it like much smaller <hes> it used to be about what would you say half the size. Maybe maybe half the size and <hes> <hes> a whole different attitude that the world war two guys were still running it so it was just a different culture <hes> i'm not better not worse just different <hes> and they kind of adopted us young twenty. Somethings sort of like pets and <hes> <hes> walked us through the process and we fell in love with oshkosh so thirty seven straight years at oshkosh. This is oshkosh. This is e as fiftieth year here in oshkosh so air venture has not always been at oshkosh but <hes> it's been fifty years since they got here so we're in this something. I'm going to say <hes> sh l. a. We'll call it. It's a it's a tent like awning about <hes> ten by twenty ten by twenty awning with the name of the company on the outside of amelie's elise landing a hotel and the outside. When did you start this tent and what exactly is its purpose well. It's this has become the central core of what we call the trailer trash <hes> we are all in a trailer that lives up here year round and we keep all of our camping gear in it and that way. We don't don't have to carry quite so much when we come <hes>. We're not roughing it. We have microwaves and coffee makers in generators but <hes> it's evolved over the years when we first. I started coming. We had a piper warrior and pup tent and a little camp stove and that was it we had two little kids and we had nothing else and gradually over the years. It's grown and grown and grown until you can see what we're sitting in right now. Well the listeners can't but we are sitting in a very luxurious spot with a great view of the runway. The tent lives here this awning the cia as you call. It lives here all year round. It lives in a trailer you then can load up your very light aircraft with just your clothes and fly up here and everything's already here for you. I bought the trailer when i bought the r._v. Because i realized <hes> <hes> we're not going to carry much in an r._v. Aid so <hes> it's enabled us to <hes> actually get bigger <hes> instead of smaller while downsizing using the plain speaking bigger so this is <hes> a lot of chairs a lot of leftover food. There's a lot of could many many many coolers something. Something tells me that something big is taking place or took place or takes place each year here. Every year we host the hops party. The hops party stands for homebuilding <music> owning piloting and students and that was the original use net groups <hes> that predate the worldwide web so that's how long we've been holding a party here. Everyone's day it was last night <hes> and it was huge. It was about sixty people standing around in a field in oshkosh <hes> we all bring beer from our hometown so we had an amazing selection of microbrews and hotel <hes> provides food so that it <hes> we don't all get sick so other than last night's party. What's your favorite thing to do. When you come to oshkosh you've been coming for so long that that i'm imagining that there are certain aspects of it that you're no longer coming four and there are aspects of it that you always come for. What's your what's your favorite thing for each of you. Eh there are a lot of people we only see at oshkosh from all over the country and so this turns out to be a big party you know we we've seen the grounds multiple times. We still go down to the ultra lights through the war birds. <hes> do the big buildings <hes>. There's always stuff to look for a lot of our artwork for the hotel has been bought up here. Although now we're pretty much full. There really isn't a lot of room to put new artwork although we're always looking you never know what you're going to find. You know what i find. Amazing is is that the first time we met was a couple of years ago and we are my. I personally partake of the trailer trash option to now but <hes> very like two months later three months after oshkosh. She guys were literally underwater. Thanks to hurricane harvey but clearly you've recovered. That's just in and of itself. That's an amazing story. Is there anything that you have done differently that <hes> recovery took you gotta we're able to take advantage of and do new or different or chain or you just went back to whatever he did. Well how what's going on with. No we took advantage of being destroyed by hurricane harvey to add a few niceties. I cities <hes> we had fiberglass tubs and all the rooms for example. We now have walk in tile showers. <hes> you know when you're destroyed. Did you get to start over again and it gave us that opportunity and it's yellow you can look at it when you when you own a business on a barrier island in the gulf of mexico jayco while it's called a barrier island for a reason it's going to get hit by hurricanes and we had five and a half feet of storm surge go over the island and took out most of the town on <hes> but we're all back now. That's that's yeah. I'm that was impressive. It was heartbreaking to watch because we followed your facebook and so on but it was just heartbreaking so you you mentioned barrier island in the gulf of mexico so that's how far from oshkosh and what is the trek look like for you when you get your coming up here. What was it about sixteen nine hundred miles fifteen hundred dollars. It took us about six hours in the r._v. <hes> which is the fastest we've ever gotten here. <hes> just a direct shot. Stop if in arkansas for gas stopped in monroe for gas <hes> and fly on in it was super easy this year <hes> right up to the point where we got creamed by the seventy <unk> mile an hour winds again. Yes that was <hes> <hes> earlier a week a week ago. Almost on friday of last week there was a a very strong storm that came through here and and you had to start all over again now once again destroyed the tenth that you had here they went out and got a new tent and which is kind of what happened to us last year <hes> as the shelly says we're holding onto any all important shelly survived everybody all hands on shelhah l._a. Sleeping in the shallow just drag the air bed and year and slept in here because it was still standing in the tent had four inches of water in it yeah so coming up to air ventures ventures often an adventure and being here is often an adventure and we're out here in the elements it sounds like glam ping because of the microwave and the coffee maker but the the storms and the wind and the mud they don't care what you brought with you. It's you're still here. It's still camping and you're still on the ground unless you have a an air mattress actress so j and mary thank you very much for stopping and speaking with me about your hotels or anything else you want anyone to know about the hotel. And how do they find you. What's what's the best way to get in touch. Are you online etcetera etcetera etcetera well. The best way is probably to go to our website. That's amelia's landing dot com. Were on facebook or we're on twitter. We're on pretty much all the social media <hes> you'll see us sometimes on pilots of america <hes> all of the local facebook book piloting groups <hes> one thing i wanted to sorry and all this airplane noise one thing i wanted to mention. Is that if you're a new a pilot if you just got your pilot's license you score a free night at the hotel <hes> we've been trying to spread the word on that for a few years and it's it's just hard had to get the word out nationwide but tell your c._f._i. To tell all their students that when they finally get that ticket in their wallet that scores him a free night right in the hotel but you gotta let us know within six months of getting that ticket so give us a call or drop us an email or go to our facebook page and let us know and we're always looking for destinations with the airplane geeks podcast. We have a website dedicated to eating at the airport so if there's an easy way to get to an an eating establishment from airport whether it's crew car walk where there's an establishment right there at the airport on eat at the airport dot com we definitely need to add the airport closest to amelia's landing because not only can you eat at the airport. You could almost sleep at the airport so we have to add that and you. You're welcome to go on to eat at the airport. Dot com and add yourselves and put everything else you want on there. So if there's nothing else we want to talk about. Thanks a lot again and once again this hill glazer before the airplane geeks podcast reporting from air venture twenty nineteen in oshkosh wisconsin all right. We have some more conversations that will be presenting in the next episode or two and you can look forward to those. I want to thank robert fairbairn for capturing. Some of those interviews was and of course for you hell l. Thanks again for doing the same really appreciate. It always fun. Thank you for the opportunity to represent the geeks so thank you for listening to <music>. This episode of the airplane geeks podcast find us at airplane geeks dot com show notes for this episode at airplane geeks dot com slash five six six. If you want to send us an email that's the geeks at airplane geeks dot com you can find us on twitter and facebook and let's tell folks where they can find us online and max trescott. We'll start with you well. If the her they can find me at the airport because i'm headed out there for a night flight with one of my students tonight but <hes> online all the usual places look for max trescott on facebook twitter instagram all that good stuff or head out to the home of <hes> aviation sure newstalk podcasts at aviation news talk dot com. Just click on contact at the top of the page. Send me a note david vanderhoek. How about you. You can find me as part of our listener team. 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APG 436  Dont look much like Skippy, Mate!

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APG 436 Dont look much like Skippy, Mate!

"Pilot. View from all side of the golden door. The. Guy Airline pilot episode four, hundred, thirty, six. By. You're listening to the airline pilot guy show the view from our side of the cockpit door with your host Captain Jack Broadcasting Live from studio one a at eight headquarters in Roswell Georgia. Today shows recorded on the twenty ninth of July twenty twenty. A. In today's episode of Smart Wings. Captain John. Engine failure from controller so he can continue to his destination. Three people dying Germany when a plane hits a hot air? Balloon More, news your feedback, and in today's plane tales the son of an Oleh tip. So get all settling tray tables and seat backs in the upright unlock positions electron devices power on arm Radio Watch or and flight four thirty sex is ready for pushback. Thank you Radio Roger He's an Emmy Award winning TV at regular reporter currently with another one only station in the nation ten ten wins in new. York. City. And welcome to the airline pilots it's an aviation podcast covering the latest in. News and answering your great feedback I've Captain Jeff. Captain Jeff. Or if you're Nigel. On. Captain Jeff. A Captain at a major legacy airline based in Atlanta Georgia and joining today. From His studio in the English. Countryside professional photographer former RAF are w fighter pilot retired captain for an international airline based in London. Captain Nick. Hi that. I, you show you who you are. Great Rebekah the show with you just the in me again. Excellent. All right and excellent intro music by one of our community members. Kept Ski Norway, thank you very much for that. All right. Let's go ahead and. Get right on into the news. Dan By on us. The first item in our news notebook is. CONGRESS PASSES BILLS TO STUDY MILITARY PILOT CANCERS FROM mcclatchy Washington bureau little bit late on that. I did I was GONNA say anything but okay. The Department of Defense would be required to identify how many of the current or former aviators have been diagnosed with cancer in in bills passed by the House and Senate this week a study long sought by military pilots who have questioned why there are so many serious illnesses in their community. The legislation was included in both chambers versions of the seven hundred and forty billion fiscal year twenty, twenty, one national defense authorization. Act following a series of stories by mcclatchy on the alarming clusters of cancer among current or former military aviators. I'm one of those including four commanding officers at a Premier Navy weapons testing base in California who have died of cancer since two thousand fifteen. Oh let me clarify I'm not one of those that has been diagnosed with cancer but I am a former military aviator. Two versions of the twenty one, twenty, one spending bill will now go to house and Senate negotiators to iron out differences before being sent to President Donald Trump to be signed into law. Betty semen the wife of one of the four commanding officers at Naval Air Weapons Station China. Lake. died of cancer. Welcome to the important milestone. She says since loving since losing I'm sure she loved him too since losing my husband I have met too many other families on the same unwanted journey. We all share a universal prayer that no other family will have to go through a similar loss today brings us one step closer to that realization Miss Seaman said in an e mail to mcclatchy but that's a great name. Her husband's name was a commander Semen S. e. a. m. a. n., and he is a naval officer. Wow that was he was in the if he was in Canada heath now be a sailor. So his last name. Is they're getting rid, of semen. Because of the obvious connotations. Changing the position to say okay. Let's see. Senator Dianne Feinstein from California introduced the military aviators. Cancer Incidence Study Act after mcclatchy reported that military aviators may be at a higher risk of developing certain cancers. Let's see. There was a little bit of information here. The database would include every service member since nineteen sixty one who served in an aviator role. The legislation defines aviators, members of the aircrew such as pilots and Napa who they included navigators in their two. Members of the grand create usually asleep on me. I did that on purpose because we have several navigators listen to the show. Let's see. WHO SHOULD WE? I'm offended at airline pilot guy dot com has the email address. And members of the ground crew who worked on the aircraft pilots who have been lobbying for the legislation wanted to ensure that ground crew such as enlisted personnel who worked to launch jets aircraft carriers were included. Because, they were exposed to many of the same radar emissions or fuels. The bill requires a database to be completed within a year. So I guess they're assuming that. The radar emissions and fuel and the jets have something to do with this. With these cancers. Anyway. So that's good. That they're doing this and I guess that. I will be contacted at some point. To probably. Yeah to fill out some kind of survey regarding my health, I suppose take do everyone they. They'll against just could take sample. Sample of the seamen. I've been resisting playing this. Is that now Sheila can't find it. You're lucky. Finally I'll take it I. This is always In the military as far as as long as I'd been an aviation. that You know you sit as the pilot, the navigator. Side the pilot I mean directly behind a very powerful Rados can now coast the scanners pointing away from you but we'll that. If you look at the lobes emission out of radar scanner. One of the most significant is the by beam which comes. Out of this kind of the wrong direction. which goes is getting back with some forwards for hours on end right on your body is nothing much between you and it this ABC's some. PUNKS ONYX and. Panels and things, but honestly, the State Sandy Life few feet away. So we always wondered about that but it was all in very much room it. I want really had any data to go by I certainly in this country the military were too keen to look at it too closely. In case they found the connection. Then of course, you could do something about this, right? Now I I prefer. So. Well, actually I cry like sailors. That's what heard. So. We're not going to get personal here on the on the show, the news segment maybe in the getting to know US portion of the show we get into. So I think if I read this correctly I'm I'm trying to scan through this article very quickly I think. Yeah the database would include every servicemember since nineteen sixty one who served an aviator. Okay. That's going to be a big oldest treatment if they managed to do that. So I'll let you know if I receive something in the mail survey or whatever. Yeah. That's good news and in the meantime Gun see Dr. Healy and surtees finger. And give you a check out of which would be very sensible. Yes. All right. Let's move onto the next. Smart Wings seven, thirty, seven captain hid his engine failure to continue flight to Prague. Check investigators have revealed that a Boeing seven thirty-seven Dash eight hundred captain misled air traffic control over a serious engine failure and ignored the first officers urging a diversion in order to press onto Prague the flights original destination. Investigation Authority US E. L. N. have no idea what that stands for. States that the captain's poor decision making disregarding several crucial aspects including the fuel situation endangered the smart wings flight from Breezes Thomas Airport on twenty second August last year. About Twenty minutes after takeoff, the aircraft reached thirty, six, thousand feet. It's left hand CFM INTERNATIONAL CFM fifty-six engine began to lose power and out. The first officer was flying new the aircraft needed to reduce altitude quickly and sought assistance from the captain to air traffic control. But rather than making a Pan Pan emergency, call the captain delayed communicating, and then merely informed controllers of technical problem. The. Aircraft remained at thirty six, thousand feet. It's airspeed declining to two hundred and twenty six knots for about two minutes before it commenced a descent to twenty four, thousand feet. So we all know as. Jet. Transport operators that if you're flying at thirty, six thousand feet and a twin engine airplane and you lose one of those power units. The first thing you do is figure out the appropriate altitude. To descend to. For optimum single engine flight and it's always below the altitude. You are currently unless you're really really super light. So. yeah. The airspeed kept dropping off and two minutes later they commenced the descent twenty, four, thousand feet as a seven thirty seven Senate as airspeed increased to three, hundred, ten knots. Needed to attempt a windmill restarted the engine but that was unsuccessful after about ten minutes. Later after a second restart attempt was performed using cross bland compressed air. So they tried it again, this time using crossbreed air. While the report of the shutdown of the engine to its operations control the captain did not advise any air traffic center of the engine failure and that's a requirement by the way leaving controllers unaware that the seven thirty seven was proceeding to Prague at twenty, four, thousand feet on just one engine. The jet passed through the airspace of Greece North Macedonia, Serbia Hungary and Austria before entering the PROG Flight Information Region at which point the crew transmitted a Pan Pan emergency call a little bit of a delayed action. notified controllers of the single engine operation and seeking a shortcut to land. Use EP L. N. found the crew had planned to avoid refueling and Samos by carrying sufficient fuel for the return trip to Prague. The aircraft had nine thousand, four, hundred, sixty kilograms of fuel on board after landing at Samos and the onboard systems indicated the that nine thousand two, hundred seventeen kilograms was required for the return. But the failure and the lower altitude effect of the fuel calculations. The inquiry says the captain did not perform the proper performance calculation to determine single engine cruise altitude capability, which would have given a level of twenty two thousand feet. So when they decided, they didn't descend. Down far enough. When the seven thirty seven landed a prog, it had two, thousand, four, hundred and thirty kilograms of fuel onboard just twenty three kilograms above the reserve fuel figure. And remember they had they were carrying a bunch of extra fuel so they wouldn't have to refuel. To go back. So yeah. Quick Maths whilst they burnt seven tons more than they would have otherwise. Yeah. That's huge. The investigation catalog several hazardous decisions by the captain's stating that he concealed the engine failure to several air traffic centers and ignored rules to transmit a Pan Pan emergency message, which would have enabled controllers to resolve possible traffic conflicts in an area of airspace where reduced reduced vertical separation minimum of. Using, PLN describes a toxic cockpit atmosphere. The highly experienced captain with over eight thousand hours on the type. Failed to follow cockpit resource management principles to solve the problem, he did not discuss safety issues of the situation with first officer who had nearly two thousand, five, hundred hours on the seven three but instead use the steel authority a great gradient to push through his poor decisions. I think it's both mentioning the toxic copy culpa atmosphere doesn't refer to the air that pre thing at that might have something to do with Easter. You said I'm fortunate choice of what's the because it is quite likely on some aircraft you could get. Sick. In the cockpit I guess they were talking more metaphorically or figuratively you rather than library was tried to avoid that bath race probably a idea they. This. Maybe, it's just a language thing. An enormous power gradient never referred to somebody's. improper. CRM. Is Power Gradient but whatever. I mean, the the authority great indies a reasonably well known to if. For example, you might say that in Japan the captain. Is Considered to have the final word on everything. There is a steep authority grade. Okay. I've never heard that term used. Okay myself okay. The first officer did not contradict the captain's decision to proceed to Prague over concerns of this worsen the crew cooperation necessary to complete the flight. So if the and we've talked about this before in previous episodes about. Proper. Atmosphere in the in the cockpit and somebody asked a new first officer was asking about you know, how do you deal with some of these captains at aren't the easiest to fly with and so here's here's some proof that. The atmosphere that the captain's set up by his toxic. power gradient enormous power gradient. It was such that the first officer decides not worth even trying to. Contradict the captain's decision because. Based on my previous experience, it's not going to do any good. So and so that which is very sale because everyone on the flight deck should be open to hearing other people's opinions including at the first off so. If you've got a good point to make make it and then you discuss your options whether that's a valid. Point or not and but eventually, someone's got to come up with the decision you and based. Now that twin engine airplane when you lose an engine, you look for the nearest shoot diversion So. You're that I, also I think was right so. He's he's in the boy Colt. The in is pushing, Islam? Yes. The captain defended his thinking to the inquiry testified that he believed his flight experience have been brought enough to assess all the risks associated with his decisions and at some point I don't see it right now. But I thought I read that he was also. Yeah he was a flight instructor and had examiner qualifications and a senior position within the airline. So. I'm sure that old is three are going to make it very home for the first off to get his point across. Yeah. So sounds to me. It doesn't say here what kind of punishment may have been? Doled out but I would imagine that there would be something some kind of A. You know. An effect or Whatever the word is well, I. Don't know what officially The authority do within the headline they should be something happening thinks he's the senior management pilot than maybe none other than you do wonder if anything's GONNA probably not. I had to be skeptical but probably cross. Consequence that was the word I was looking for. and you know it's very interesting with this because we've got something that route the amplifies the importance of the fest offset trying to get his point across loss news up for this particular aircraft type Yup. Straight them do that actually? Uh, speaking of seven, thirty, seven engine failures and we're talking about the F. A. Issuing an emergency airworthiness directive. Yeah. So this just happened couple of days ago we recording the show on the twenty ninth. This is issued by the FAA on the twenty third of July. Emergency Airworthiness Directive Ad Twenty Twenty Dash Sixteen Dash Fifty one is sent to and operators of the Boeing Company model seven, thirty, seven, Dash, three, hundred, four, hundred, five, hundred, six, hundred, seven, hundred, seven, hundred C. eight, hundred, nine, hundred, and nine, hundred e Er series airplanes. So. Early all of the roast seven thirty sevens that are operating right now except the Max and that's not operating right now so. This emergency eighty was prompted by four recent reports single engine shutdowns due to engine bleed air fifth stage check valves being stuck open. Corrosion of the engine bleed air. Fifth. STAGE CHECK VALVE. Internal. Parts during airplane storage may cause the valve to stick in the open position. If this valve opens, normally a takeoff power may become stuck in the open position during flight and failed to close when power is reduced at top of descent resulting in an unrecoverable compressor stall and the inability to restart the engine. Corrosion of these vowels on both engines could result in a dual engine power loss without the ability to restart. This condition if not addressed could result in compressor stalls and dual engine power loss. That I just read that They just stated again very several. Yeah. Without the ability to restart which could result in a forced off airport landing. The F.? Being, crushed. Call it. Kinda like a miracle on the Hudson that was a that was forced. Off. The landing. The FAA issuing this because they value, waited all the relevant information determine. The unsafe condition described previously is likely to exist or developed in other products of the same type design. So. The this requires the airlines that operate these airplanes with these engines the inspecting the bleed air fifth stage check valve on. And replacement of the engine bleed air, the stage check valve of any inspection has not passed. So. Let's see. Yeah. So as it mentioned I, think in the beginning was prompted by four recent reports a single engine shutdowns caused by these check valves getting stuck in the open position and they think it has something they basically, they're saying if the airplane has been stored. More than seven days is what they call being stored and the airplanes have not flown. I think was at ten flights or ten hours, ten or fewer flight cycles since returning to service from the most recent period of storage than they are required to. These inspections completed just to make sure that. These things don't get stuck in new end up having. One engine to. Yeah. The these fouls fairly simple They just a spring loaded flap valve. To halls of them so they were. and people may not realize. But the reason we have two sets of bleeds off the engine, which obviously feed the pneumatic system which does many jobs in there playing one of which is to pressurise the aircraft. So that's why the comes from the eventually fades into through the air conditioning system into the. INTO THE FUSE LAUNCH IN PRESSURIZE During Lopez Settings you have one that is back on the ninth stage, which is further in the engine where high pressure air is. At a low power setting, you can still get good pressure from the ninth stage fade. But when you're high settings you don't need all that. I you can shut that one often. Just pick it from the low pressure side because the engine a high Pi- getting quite sufficient from that. What happens he's quite naturally as when you're taking it from the high pressure side, the goes to the back of that valve closes. So. that it feeds back into the pneumatic system and doesn't go into the engine further near the front where the stages after the state file doesn't close. Then, it's quite likely. You're going to get high pressure at from the ninth stage going all the way through the system. Why shoot all the way through this Kinda show pop through to the fifth stage system blasting in there and that has a. Good chance of really upsetting the AFL. Getting through that and causing a surge stole. That's as I understand it how this particular engine search engine failures has been occurring now? I did a very quick bit of research into this. May Be more knowledge out there Oh that was interesting topics head. Yeah more or less. Okay. Excellent but I did look at a guy who was holding a Valda on okay. I've never seen one does flap rebels if the same problem by engines, you've got a double engine hints. US relating this back to the previous story. You really should not having had an engine failure. You really should continue fly onto destination unless it's very close right because. If you have one engine failure that folks may be seen and the other engine, and then you end up putting yourself into a glider. Yup, and you don't want that to happen. Usually doesn't work out. Well, they're only a handful that I can think of of instances with dual engine flameouts or all engine flameouts that. Were successful outcomes. Rich from shuffled says. Let's following the Boeing ad relating to what you are talking about does Airbus have anything to say now is he talking about you captain neck or the company Airbus? A boss say I'm presuming referring to. See and I guess it would depend on the. I guess they're talking about the the CFM fifty-six engines and while I'm AC- say the engine type. Now I don't know if these marks all have say FM, fifty six. No other engine type on the seven thirty, seven, I think if that's the case. Okay and that in which case at. Twenty ucf I'm fifty, six, the first three, forty variant of flu had safe in fifty sizes. It baby that this is a a Boeing component. And that Abbas have designed a different style of one and the different system. is possible but I doubt yeah to be trickle. Yeah. I have not seen anything regarding as Captain Nick mentioned they really don't say in this maybe they just assume that everybody knows that the all of these seven thirty seven models use the CFM fifty six I could be wrong about that but I'm pretty sure. That they don't have any variants like a lot most of the other airplanes you can. You can put a GE on it, a CFM, a International Aero Engines Pratt and Whitney etc Harare woah. I'm it may I mean I would've assumed A. Would have included Airbus models if they were susceptible to the same problem because it's got a whole list of airplanes. Why wouldn't they include the ones I I don't know. Yeah. It seems like it'd be more of an engine related. Engine specific type of thing, not a an airplane specific. So that's what I'm fishing in the hair. So I'm not either So maybe somebody can send some feedback and let us know what what's what's up with that. All. Right getting back to the CC yeah. Okay In, Germany three are dead as plane hits a hot air balloon and crashes into homes. This is from Sky Dot. com. The light aircraft started a fire after plunging into a building in the German city of Vasil. Around thirty five miles north of diesel Dorf as W. E. S. L. and I'm going to say it's diesel but I don't know could be wrong. a plane is thought to have collided with a hot air balloon shortly before it crashed into apart into an apartment block killing three people and injuring a child fire was started when the aircraft hit the building and the German German city. Thirty five miles north of Dusseldorf or Desseldorf. Witnesses told local media the planet hit the balloon before coming down. Okay. How many times are we going to say that? There's pictures of the building the apartment that building that it hit and. The fire brigade COMING OUT IN RESPONSE The aircraft was capable of carrying two people but police say it's not yet clear how many people were on board and the data not been identified. The Childhood in the accident is said to have suffered only minor injuries. They said what they know so far is that an ultralight aircraft crashed into a residential building. our first inspection of the house three dead bodies were found in the attic. We cannot give any information as to their identities at the moment. So I guess somebody in the building cut means somebody could have been in the building up in the attic. Maybe that was like living. Level Attic level and not like just a storage level of the building possible. There may have been one or two. People aboard the ultra light it's only a to place airplane. So. Not Sure Where the other body. Must have been in the apartment building So guessing yeah I mean, there must be a lot of fire involved In An airplane full of fuel and you gotTA. Believe with canisters. Gas. So. That's GonNa be significant problem yeah. So if we hear anything about this, any follow up or if you listener here, any follow up, please let us know. Then we'll. We'll let you know what they've determined coast we. Remind, everyone there is a bit like being See is a definite order priority as to who has right of way and It's just like big on their it's sale before steam So if you're flying something that copy guided like a hot Appalachian, it's completely up to the pilots of the ultralight, all light aircraft or whatever to take avoiding AG- action and go round so. Up ketchups say a balloons a big piece of kitten. I what was going on here? I ask myself like how could the ultralight Nazi the hot air balloon I mean? They're pretty conspicuous. Yeah I. Mean the only possible. Thing is visibly might have been poor and warily trained because you know background is hunt together. to see things move our peripheral vision is really highly acute if we see something that is daunting away so it's ready to have Lisi to see some another aircraft. This moving fast across the sky balloon is a fairly stationary object and it is possible for it to blend into the background. If you'll diverted from looking out, the front way ought to be looking looking all around to be fair. And playing with your ipad or something I'm not suggesting this is what happened. You shouldn't allow your attention to be diverted to some other function in the company for more than a few seconds, and particularly if you're on your island that craft and you're not looking out while you're doing, then it's really bad and also if you got a passenger in the aircraft with you and yoga do something just do the sensible thing which is to say look I'm going to get heads. Will you take responsibility for looking out of the windows and just tell me if you see something that we might bump into rather than ignoring them and inevitably their attention will be drawn to what you're doing. So now you're both looking in a I've seen it happen with professional pilots overnight forget in a one of us will be typing something in the flight management system another pilot win they look down what just what he's doing now you face. PEEVES. Yes. I know what you're talking about and just bugs the. H. E., double L.. Really does sometimes actually used to be typing something and they'll look you know the person that I'm flying with looking down at the screen that I'm talking to stop. And Start Looking out the window and then. That person looks away and then I started. It's like why you don't need to look and see exactly what I'll let you know. I'll let you know what I'm doing I'll let you read it before I send it or you know if I'm doing something in the FM S.. I guess it's just human nature. Don't. Don't do it it is but a well disciplined crew do right my disciplined will. Do. Exactly. What I just suggesting one will get heads in the other will be heads out and if if you're if you're really good, you don't even have to say anything but I would if I was flying the airplane, I'm just kind hence him for a minute or I might even hand control over to the other guy so that now he's flying there a plane he feels obliged he has an airplane he has radios and I'm just going to focus on this. But guess what? Eight times out of town. I guarantee. Man I should probably. Never, have brief that but maybe I should start breathing that saying look just don't just don't do that and don't say pod. Potable water. That's another one of my. Pet. PEEVES. Lane Street by the way in the previous airworthiness directive, we were talking about the engine types on the seven three and he says, yes, all three seven's. Actually all tree sevens. Have CFM fifty-six engines, and they are variants than those used in other aircraft and actually lane as being correct. When he says tree sevens the way we're supposed to say the number three. Over the radio although very few people actually do it kinda sounds odd but. Yep. So, that makes sense and because there are different variants maybe that's why. None of the Airbuses are affected in the eighty. They at the cast. Okay jumping all around here. Let's continue on this one. I'm really interested. What Nick has gone to say about this particular such this incident because. He has a lot of experience with performing airborne intercepts. So, let's start off by reading the headline Iranian Mahan a three thirteen over. Syria on the twenty third of July. Twenty twenty upset as a result of intercept by US F. Fifteen fighters. Mahane Airbus eight, three Dash Three Hundred Registration Echo Papa Mike November Fox trot performing flight one, one, five, two from Tehran. To, Beirut, was in route to fly level three or four zero about one hundred and sixty nautical miles east of Beirut and Syrian airspace near the triangle Syria Jordan and Iraq when the crew performed an abrupt maneuver to avoid to fighter aircraft and climb the aircraft at least six hundred feet, the aircraft subsequently returned to fly the three four zero requested medical assistance for the arrival at Beirut and continued to Beirut for a landing without further incident. A number of passengers needed medical assistance according to the first paragraph of this. From the Herald reports as to what Fighter Aircraft Causey upset are unclear at this point of the investigation but they soon found out that they were US F. Fifteens I guess at first there was some kind of report that they thought. It was Israel aircraft. Medical Services. The Red Cross in Beirut reported, no passengers needed to be taken to a hospital. A number was treated. Number was treated mainly for shock. And the early morning hours of July twenty. Fourth Twenty Twenty Centcom the US Central Military Command reported that one was on a routine mission over southern Syria near the Tante Garrison in southern Syria. Located about twelve nautical miles east of the. Sixteen fourteen forty-three that's time position of the aircraft. And was dispatched to conduct an inspection of the airline to ensure safety of coalition personnel at L. Tenth. When the fifteen identified the aircraft as a passenger plane in the fifty maintained a safe distance of about one thousand meters. The intercept was done in accordance with international standards however. It appears it caused the Iranian pilots to carry out a sudden and. The altitude change. L. Ten for garrison is located at, they'd give some coordinates when the a three thirteen was at flight level three, four, six. The aircraft was up position Ballo Baugh. So I don't know I don't want to talk about that. You'd have to look at the. Image to see these different positions that they're referring to the I think particularly relevant other than what is basically exactly. So so this thing apparently kind of drifted from its core why have a there are some pictures in here that you can look at in the show notes. Also from another source that we use on occasion here, called the drive a military. News source It's as new details emerge about an fifteen intercept of Iranian Airbus over Syria. American officials now say that the Iranian airliner drifted from the established air route through the area and did not identify itself one prompted. The US Air Force F fifteen only came within five thousand feet of an Airbus, a three ten airliner according to the US. they all have also stated that the airman flight eleven fifty to appear to deviate from the established flight route and did not respond to radio calls to identify itself while passing over a strategic or flying over a strategic garrison near the city of. Attempt according to this article that US backed Syrian forces operate prompting the intercept in the first place. So. That's basically. The setup here, Captain Neck the epsteins on a mission. This ahead looks like there's an airliner that's kind of drifting off there course getting kind of close to the garrison which go check it out. So they started their intercept procedures and I'm not sure exactly what happened with the Iranian three, ten crew but perhaps they. Were startled by the fifteenth presence and. They just had their natural reaction was just to. Yank on the yoke and yes, it is an air best, but it's a three ten. Have a traditional yoke if I'm not. Mistaken. Cry Right. So what do you? Mean, you you have a lot of experience with this sort of thing. To be fat, all the intercepts I did Pre teacups. So wasn't a factor that we had to take into account having said that whenever we operated Kleist to another aircraft, we always put on transponders to stand by because to transpose close together will gobble the signal and the controller will get poor information. So we would naturally do that anyway but I didn't want the stand up procedures. The fifteen I'm what sounds like to me is that they were to go and identify this at craft. And they came in and did what would be a normal intercept I don't think they turn their transponders to standby so that the T. caste system would have been operating. And although had they been coming in level without any altitude changes they have fifteen referring to they could have come between sort of five and three thousand feet below or above. Also, frequently wide from the across to see it and identify it and. all would be well, the IT probably wouldn't even know they were that Ah. Less he was looking at his t cast display. If they turned off the. Transponders and coming he would never probably but what I suspect his Has Spray Clever System it. It can look at your rate of climb and descent. And if there's a possibility even though you might be. Thousand feet away if there's a possibility that if you persist in that, climb a towards you the. Target they aircraft there's you're approaching. If you continue it and there's a chance of collision, it'll give t cast warning. Because of the right of Kline and I suspect that's probably what happened. One of the F. Fifteens may have. Just had a short climb or descent that was quite normal for him a fighter by the t caste system saw well, this guy's coming barely pat me. Realize that he was about to level off. And initiated t cast warning to the of the a three ten I think personally if I had flying the aircraft sufficiently all in the simulator to injure the passage of the past, the back Beckham Airplane WanNa failed. Simulated check there there is usually no need for a really abrupt control movement in teak. Response for stock usually get warning of the traffic you. Stay prepared and then it gives you a come onto climate ascend to get out of the way and the transition can be firm but progressive and there's no reason your passengers should end up being injured his. I stopped designed that to put the in the passes in. jeopardy whenever you perform I. A. Resolution advisory A a maneuver to as commanded by the teak s to get out of the white I'll the across the impinging on your little bit of aspects. That's what I suspected happened here I I'm not going to put any I'm not gonNA criticized fifteen guys. It didn't seem sunlight. They were expecting to do this mission. They were called something else to go into this airplane. Perhaps they just. Came home in forgetting that it could be a civilian now with take us. Yeah. They might have this route to turn the T. cast to standby before. Approaching the airliner, and then as you said, the way we're taught these t casts. Resolution advisories. The maneuvers that we perform should be nice and smooth and nothing abrupt. Apparently. That was an overreaction perhaps of the Iranian pilot crew. In the he Had not, thought of the the whole. Aspect of this, that makes a Lotta Sense. Having said that if the I'm not sure whether the Guy Climbed I'm assuming he. Only, because the video I've seen the fifteen taken by some of the prestigious it looks like they're below the aircraft. So normally when you pitch the nose up. Things aren't gonNA fly around the cabin one to sit down. Be Glued to this. It's the leveling off. That's the danger Mary and I. I was feeling that when you're out of trouble, you can level off smoothly as you like. For failing the level of might have been what through everyone around Petra? I'm guessing I really didn't show but I I'm a little bit concerned about the skill show demonstrated in this particular I. Suspect you're right. I think that's exactly what happened. So. Do we we see somebody here that is going to join us. Let's see. Hey Hey. Hey. I hear this voice in my ear. And I see her onscreen and of course, we all know her as Dr Staff she is. Well, you all know she's in the Carolinas. She's a skydiver, a marathon runner, Doctor Strength Training Junkie, IB CONNOISSEUR, and commercial multi engine instrument rated pilot. Hello. Dr, Steph. We. That sounds like me he kept and Jeff to nick conceived ice. For my tardiness again. But you know you're looking forward to you stuff like that. Yeah work. Work Work Work Work Work don't expect any holidays this year. Well I basically just decided that's not gonNA. Happen. Work mean might as well make some money opportunity to make some money pay off some debts and Yeah. Save up for that. Big Dinner that you're gonNA. Treat me too. I'm in. Charlotte next. Of course. Is there any other reason I don't know? I don't either I'm just making it up. So. We were just just about to finish up with. The News at now you may have been listening to some of the other news items we were covering stuff anything that you want to add anything that we've previously mentioned. I kind of sort of heard what you were talking about on the new stuff the volume. Of the Youtube, feet in my car was very low for some reason. So as having hard time hearing everything. The. Yeah. Almost said Hey. Yeah, it's noisy and those things don't have any doors on the car still driving around without the doors Yeah. Yeah that's necessary. Their optional extra. The doctor couldn't afford. That's why she was. So she can buy some doors. A couple of those. starting to go fund me. steph doors. So just kidding I, do have have there's something a have the two right now but I do want to talk about because you're a doctor but let me cover this one I. E American Airlines scrapping the plane involved in the JFK quote incident. Remember. We talked about this shortly after it happened. It was April tenth of last year. pretty terrifying incident happened on an American Airlines flight. Three hundred from New York to Los Angeles the flight was operated by an Airbus, a three twenty one that was built in two thousand fourteen with a registration code number one, one, four, November, November. Long. Story Short the plane rolled to the left as it took off. Causing left-wing to hit something during takeoff. something. Beyond. The lateral limits of the of the runway that's a wide run that runway they were taking off on as a two hundred foot runway. So, we were all kind of gone what's going on there? Anyway as a plane passed through twenty thousand feet, the pilots informed air traffic control of their intention to return to the airport as the pilots described it to the controller of the plane had a row strong role to the left and the plane was fine but they just wanted to return to Kennedy. To have them check it out in the meantime, the crew informed passengers that they were returning to the airport because there was a computer malfunction. As, reported by at. Akkad houses computer cozy has strong role for. The computers in the Airbus. They do that all the time. Computers. Laptop perhaps got I think they're talking about the airplane computer, not not his laptop although I don't know maybe you're onto something there. Maybe. You should have put his laptop computer away before attempting the takeoff. Turnoff instill. Your Hanoch Large Jessie wasn't listening to the safety briefing. Anyway as reported by at X J O and why C at x John New York City the American eight, three, twenty, one involved in this incident will never fly again. Some of the plane parts will be removed and reused while the rest of the plane will be scrapped. Wow in late late twenty and nineteen American Airlines had confirmed to me the person me is Ben from one mile at a time. Had referred or had Confirmed to him that the NTSB still investigating the incident. And that the intent was for the plane to eventually return to service American has been tight lipped about this incident. So it's unknown exactly the decision to scrap the play. Known how exactly the decision described the plane came about or what was determined? Did it take nearly fifteen months to come to the conclusion that the plane can be repaired economically. Did coronavirus play a part in the decision to scrap the plane since Americans retiring many plans anyway. The plane coat corrode. It's possible. You know that's What you'd have to be led to believe I mean it's pretty cute is One thing is for sure clearly, this incident was much more serious. The many people had assumed at the time. This. Isn't quite a this is quite a contrast to the delta seven that had a very rough landing in the Azores in August of two, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety. Due to the amount of damage to the views lodge. Many speculated that the plan would never fly again and I think many of us here at the g speculated that that would be the case. However, we were surprised the plane was able to be very back to the US just over a month after the incident and by December of last year, it was back in service so. Yeah. Strange Why It didn't seem like it was that big of a deal and It's kind of odd that they're scrapping. They made the decision to scrap the thing. Yeah, it may be the you've got plenty of those that cross sitting around in much better condition and the listeners coming up we'll give already cheap dale why would you spend all the money? To, repay one that Is Far from perfect. That's that's probably the most likely. Thing I would guess. Okay, and then the the thing that I wanted to ask Steph about. Delta? Airlines says, no says no to masks with. Valves. Will offer complimentary mask if you're planning to fly with Delta, airlines, be sure to leave home any masks with valves. As the airline will not allow you to use them on board and recent recent policy update regarding mask usage. The airline states that masks with valves whether it's a and ninety five or something else will not be allowed as they do not offer any real protection for those around the person wearing the mask valve masks allow for air to be easily expelled offering protection only for the wearer but not for those in close proximity, which is really the main reason why we`re The masks, right? Yeah. The whole reason why we're wearing the mask is primarily to prevent you the mask wear from transmitting your germs to someone else that is the primary. So if you have a valve val would have to allow air in and not out but I don't know that a lot of the the the mass they have valves are that type of valve. So allowing if it's the opposite, so intended for. The Mask wearer. To not can. catch something you know. So someone who's immuno-compromised. Those lines It's potentially doing the opposite allowing them to expel air through the mask and not the other way around and I don't know that you could. Reliably, know which type of value I mean I guess you could. But if if someone else looking at, it doesn't know then. So I guess they have masked the have. Valves that are oriented in different. I to be honest I don't know I've never closely inspected one I've never had any reason to but I imagine that's the case you know if you're if you're the person trying to. Protect yourself from contracting something you wouldn't want to allow much in, but you might still want to be able to you know. Exchange air back out and not be worried about that. So. Could be so. That makes sense to have the valve because one of the one of the objections of people wearing the masses that it's hard to breathe right and so if you have a vowed that makes it easier to X. Hail I would imagine that that would be a good thing at least for the mask wearer. But as we stated the reason why the governments are saying where the mask it so that you if you have are you, you're a carrier of the disease that you don't give it to somebody else. Okay All right. Yeah, you don't. You don't want to be transmitting your germs to other people is the primary reason for wearing the mask in this slow that was interesting and thought you would be able to kind of give us an idea and had heard that was just something I saw that's my that's my educated guess like I said I really haven't never had a reason to inspect those masks closely. So perhaps, if I'm not one hundred percent correct there someone will let us know. I Have A. Point that I need to make here I've just noticed that Hill L.. is in the chat room and I'm wondering why he's not in. The bathroom of my home. I think he's he's. He's he's tearing that discussing. Take staying on with. US A lot of so. Okay. And don't use hills phone. Don't borrow it. Okay well, I think that's all we have in our news folder, which means that it's time for. All of you listening and watching to get to know US That's the segment we call getting know us. And Let's see about a week ago I think was our. Last. Show exactly week ago. So, Captain Nick. What have you been up to? Sir. I'm. Working quite hard to tell the truth because plaintiffs always takes up. At least two days of my week. And then you came up with a very bright work. Yes. To make that three days. I was really concerned that you're just not didn't have enough to do. Yeah. Yeah. Okay when you get to seven days. Because they're eighty seven days a week. But. Now I'm many Jerky. Jeff has for those who may not have realized for some time being introducing chapters in to the show so that when you watch this, listen to this on a podcast if you play it on a podcast APP that supports a chapters you can look if I own and the Lego image will change to a picture of something that might be relevant for that part of the show, an jets I I always I admire very much and sometimes I can get. The. PODCAST player in my car. Rather than just having the same leg all the. Got Interesting pitches coming out but illustrate what we're talking about he said. You're putting those pictures up on the Youtube version of the show. When plaintiffs comes home you can do the same in the podcast APP by introducing chapters, and so I had a little less than which F and we found a piece of every get. just produced a a beginning of. Recent. Plane Tail and there's a pitcher river played the which is the. So he showed me the piece of software I need to play with and. I've put pictures on the last three plain tales to go on the plane tail feed. So if you if you don't. Receive Plain Tales as a separate podcast you we've probably won't you. You will definitely get this Perhaps we will is a way to do it in the. in the full show Jeff now. Up for you. Yeah you when you edit the full show if I've already done plain tales. Chapters if you insert that into the One with that work I'll have to look into that. Yeah I would think about that because I think it's only fair that I give you saw. Trade, anymore. So. We Know Better So. Being any work with? Your. Shadow, combustion. Nanjiani Twenty Twenty One I at twenty two. So you should get pictures with playing towels on the live show. On the website and on the cost if you're using an that supports it, and I will point out right now. Apple podcasts the APP the comes on your amplified does not say that you would say that Boring Apple. So. Tell him to go fix it anyway. That's what one of the things I've plagued with recently. I am going to be on PTA UK into the blue. So yeah I'm moonlighting and getting rid of extra cash which I think is very welcome in these days of retirement. Getting rid of making it that's what I thought. You said, you were there actually I heard give. Them? On their show. I would, of course. Early people. But stop the idea. And I. Think there was something else. I was going to say I can't think of it right now. So. I'm probably GONNA leave it. There was going to be fascinating I'm sure. I. Probably. So interestingly. I was distracted by something that somebody in the chat room and Said who was it that was looking for a plane tale about DB cooper. From Sheffield. And he did a search on the website and so I just did. A search as well, and there's a bunch of things that pulls up but I'm not sure. Did you ever do a plane tail on DB Cooper? Now I thought it was pretty well named story I try and avoid well stories having said that. Today's story although I'm hoping some of the details will be new to some. But yeah. So rich, from Sheffield, that's why you couldn't till about DB cooper because there isn't one. By the way just to mention. If you do go to the website on the top menu bar. and I think it depends on I don't think that you can get it on the telephone, the phone version of the. Of the site, but there's a little magnifying glass I think you can see it in the like if you have an ipad in landscape and if you're looking at on the desktop browser and that's pretty handy, actually I use it a lot. If I need to find something that was on a previous show, I just use that little. Magnifying Glass and works pretty well that gives references to whatever you're searching for so. Having said that I've a funny feeling it was part of one of those multiple stories I do about sometimes about various incidents. Feeding. Yeah a feeding. I've just sort of done a third of plane tale about it and it was mixed in with several other. So it manages today she got back to plain town number one which was All about the I drink that the astronauts who landed on the moon hat when they came out of the car and Tina and listen to the mall this any bow take very long thirty of them. No, they're the show see to. Take you anytime when you find it. If you we mentioned this also at the end of the show. So many of you listening right now maybe you know it's a long show perhaps you never make it actually toward the end which you should do on occasion because it's kind of entertaining especially with Hillel when he talks about slack. But The one of the things we mentioned is our website and one of the items. One of the pages on our website is the plane tales page. Nick goes in adds a lot of other information, a lot of text that kind of stuff. So if b Cooper was actually in the text of what you've put in for whatever plane tell you were referring to. Search function should should see that I'm thinking so. Anyway. And someone else said Oh Brandon Gonzalez says he listens in Apple Poku us and he does get trump to so. It isn't that right? Yeah. It is in podcasts. Didn't think it was. Okay, I wasn't getting on my phone when I was testing windows. A. Wooden, door I. was my own making noise because I just plugged in a charger? I'm using a surface tablet are original be. And the and I'm using as a interface for my digital mixer. And apparently, didn't have it needed but normally doesn't make any noise but not sure exactly what prompted that. Going into. PODCASTS I think that there's a way. For you to see those if they're if if people have put chapters in. And I think Sunday Tony US says, he sees them on A. The PUCK Yet to scroll down a ways to to see the chapter markers. on the on the IPAD IPHONE APP APP. But Yeah I don't see. Images. Associated with them. It's it's great if they coming up there. That's brilliant. So makes. It. With Gel think. Interestingly. The Image doesn't come up unless I'm doing this wrong I see where the chapter markers are. In the PODCAST APP but I don't see the Associated Image Yeah the chapters mccown plain tells is pretty relevant because I divide the story up into chapters that make any sense the pitches come along with me referring to a particular. Craft type, for example, but that's no a chat line separation. So that's not really a function that works with plain tales, but we have the logo change. That's what we're. That's the functionality we're actually looking for. So Brandon if yours is doing that, let us know what the heck you're doing that. We're not because we're not seeing it on the. IOS version of PODCASTS. Every other interestingly and nick and I've had this conversation. The apples the one that can comes up with this. Capability of showing chapters and images from different chapters and it's the only. podcast player that I know of that does not actually. implemented. But they're the ones that game. So, if you look at overcast or pocket casts. Players you can see it. So kind of strange. Oh. I see Brandon says you have to be a podcast or yourself for. Well, Hey, we're podcasters why why don't we see it working to be that a smart podcast here? A okay. Somebody somebody kick him out of the job. please. All right. Just. Kidding. So anything else nick besides although extra work now did preface this with now you may find that this is too much work and as a justice suggestion, I'm not. That you have to do this and it's just something to consider if you want an enhancement decided that it is doable if I streamline my what a little but currently I'm getting finding those pitches three times. So I find put a mean and then I forget what they were. Good again, find him again in reformat them and put them somewhere else that I forget where they were against. But if I I've started getting pitches. They one spot that I will format them and put them where they need to be from there and try to remember what they are in future. I think you're doing more work than you need to because I I don't I. Don't reform at them at all when I put them into chapters at. That needs a specific size in Chattanooga riot. I argue that's one of those things that. It's a little persnickety. The stream yard overlays that we put up. On the video and the video if you don't have exactly the right. Format Than it box so and. Not Barks but box. Box Okay. Enough of that. Steph. been good busy. Work Lot of work and or. Work work work work, schedule. Yeah that's about been my life during the week. Still doing a bunch of flying on the weekends past weekend was kind of fun and interesting and different still buying. Jumpers skydivers but we took a plane to a different drop zone 'cause This particular drop zone was in need of an aircraft for the weekend. There's was broken chance to kind of help them out so They're different different location in North Carolina? On Saturday morning. Actually traverse my opposing basis t shirt because we flew through the mythical triad airspace on Saturday mornings. So I did send the minority There's going to be a known aeronautical hazard in their airspace. Warning and unfortunately EIJI was working but didn't get to talk to him on the frequency, but he did pass along messages. Hello. So that was that was nice of him to do so. co-pilot got got got a kick out of that. Who Don't you And actually, this is great too because it's got there. In our tried to use this to navigate. Can turn around and show you. Try airspace and has all the different names they use. Yeah. At the very bottom it does have a disclaimer that says not for navigation use so Luckily I made it anyway I made it to their destination. So that was fun different location different place to fly different dumb just different setup. So keep brain on its toes to speak and. Our brains have toes. Yeah. Sure. Okay I'm sure there's a better way to put that exclusive. What's he knows a lot more about our anatomies. Monkey lous. And then you'll understand. Okay someone. They will know what I'm talking about. How monkey Louis just like it sounds. So, did that all weekends? Got Back. Not, too late on on Sunday night, but then just right back into work on on Sunday morning so. Let's Let. been my my week in summary said nothing nothing too crazy nothing allie ordinary just work flying work. To. Bergen. Pie more the same this weekend I hope. But we'll see. This weekend speaking of. Supposed to have a visit from you know that Guy Colonel Jeff. On the Friday. but it seems like he's decided to ditch me in good Atlanta instead. So he decided to upgrade. Visiting What's the word. Experience. Visiting us. Yeah. Click on show chapters and then I am oh. Okay. There you go. We've we've. Come up with a solution live during the show. Well, yes. Yes. I just. Noticed in that conversation, that Steph is referring. That Colonel Jeff going to be laying over in the at L. Friday. And so I'll get to see him and we'll get to have a late lunch or dinner or both. He has to leave early on Saturday morning. So I'll definitely. Go down and pick them up from the. Marriott airport. And we'll we'll do something. So that should be fun looking forward to. Seeing Colonel Jeff they're supposed to be here but it sounds like he's got a couple more Charlotte layovers before before retirement. So he doesn't want to spoil himself too much less. Every single to be to be honest You know if he's getting in early and you're available and I'm working all day. That's probably. More. Enjoyable. Anyway. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure it'd be more enjoyable experience but. You know I'm here and I'm not working. So an update on that. Your not working. I am just waiting for Acme to tell me when I'm going to go to training. And Right, now as far as I know haven't heard anything different, it's going to be in. October. for those of you who are who have been under a rock somewhere I was or displaced myself to the seven one, seven, the little mini mad dog that the MD ninety five and will be trading on that sometime later in the year and converting on that and hopefully by the end of the year, all actually start flying jets again. So it's been about. My last flight was the twenty seventh of May. And Colonel Jeff was actually on that flight. and. So I guess it's been a little over two months since I've. Flown a jet which is kind of weird I guess after a while you get used to it. Captain Nick. Yes. You think so nice. Yeah. Actually have to be honest I I'm kinda getting used to this. This whole re retired lapsed lifestyle. Like Oh. Don't want to go back to work maybe I'll wait and then when it's getting closer to training, I'll go you know. I can't take advantage of that early retirement deal anymore. So That is a common gone so Anyway, Let's see. That's all I. I don't really have much going on I I've. Mentioned that on the. Last Day of my train journey I thought I may have possibly been. Exposed to the Rona. And so out. That's right. I forgot all about that. Yeah. So I kind of put myself in self quarantine and that's been a couple of weeks now. The Saturday, we'll be. We'll be two weeks. So weekend I'll I'll return to singing at my my parish church Tom. We're looking forward to that. And that's about it just been. Kind of. Getting into a routine which is. Kind of Nice every morning I get out and walk for a couple of hours. And just trying to keep all the things moving and working and and you need a dog. A new dog I, know you used to have a dog because that's a wasted walk Now. Be. Exercising get gorgeous pooch. I am. Live my gorgeous belly. Tug. O that that kind of you could get A. Tortoise and take it for a drag. Might be more my speed. Anyway my backyard, the other day the. Tortoise Turtle. I don't know. Something, the shell if you throw the tortoise in the lake. Got Nothing good. I don't know but my dogs were afraid of it was very small and they were like. Don't. I saw dogs. Behaving like hooligans. To crucially normal. Size like with with the Truman around because. He just thinks it's playtime and then fortunately TACO was there. So he just attacked Taco instead of me. Oh that's. Now when I did my twenty to twenty one so. Yeah Okay I'll look forward to that. Okay. All right. Well. I guess that's it for getting to know us not really much to know. and. Yeah. Let's move on to the coffee. Fund. Showy. Johnny how much coffee? Love Coffee. Love T. I, love the. Community. Gothi and see. The Buca. Okay, we're GonNa talk about our wonderful coffee, our club members Coffee Fun Qadri. the people that support the show financially and couple of different ways to do it. You can find out how by going to the website but let's tell you about the first way to do it, which is the coffee classic method, and since the last episode couple of recurring donors. Contributed Let's see. Jason and Alistair. and. We also had. Talked about him in a minute The other way to do it is to become a patron of the show. and. We have a couple of new. Patrons, we have Gabe cloud and Daniel Jenkins they're new producers and rory shields a new executive producer. Thank you the three of you for becoming patrons of the show, and if you want to join this group of folks people, you can head over to airline pilot guide, dot com slash coffee, and find out about how you can do that, and I want to do something that I haven't done in a while, and that is to kind of mention, our our top patrons We have something at the very top called senior executive producers, and those folks are William, Birch Fitz James and. Also Armenian. Realized today I was mispronouncing his always said Acer, but it's Asa. but anyway and he's been around with us as a patron of the show since twenty four team believe it or not shortly after I started. The patron patriotic thing. And then next group of the next level. Next year we have these are the assistant senior executive producers. We have Mike, Clark Robert Fairbairn. Known as many other names Hamish Dick. Rob Simmons. In the UK and Magnus Riddick, I think cut off his last name there and Elliot's. Colombo so they are all in that that second tier. So just wanted to mention that group of folks because A lot of great support from them and just wanted to kind of give them credit for that. And finally another music is no longer playing in the background but that's okay we don't need it. We do have a po box. At the. And I went to check it the few days ago and I had A. Letter. From. Richard K Brooks the third in Maryland. And inside he gave us a nice contribution via check. And he gives us Nice handwritten note and let me read it. Says Dear, all I am celebrating my birthday and my first year anniversary of listening to ABC. But a fantastic show with an amazing group of people. Please accept this contribution to the Coffee Fund in memory of Captain Andy Anderson the Eulogy recited Captain Nick was beyond. Description? But a wonderful way to honor dad. I look forward to meeting you all in Bwi or p. h. l.. Blue Skies and tailwinds. Cheers Pritchard and see it's a real note. You can actually hear it. Okay, thank you very much for the the nice check. I'm not going to throw show that on the video because then people will probably get information that they don't need to get from it. So, thank you a lot Richard for very. Generous contribution. And again, if you want to join the Coffee Fund please head over airline Pentagon dot com slash coffee. You'll be glad you did. And now. We'll move on Incoming message feedback feedback you'll notice a item number one. So I like number one. So what I WANNA do. So Liz. Dust. Can I read it? Wait could. Says there's no feedback here go away move to number two. So that's that was what I put as a title. So what? Liz a lot of work and she's on vacation right now in her cottage up in the lake. well-deserved. Yes and this beautiful lake cottage up there north of Toronto and the. Internet apparently is really not very good and so she can't be here to. Produce and direct mostly direct us. But in the background before we do these shows, she does a heck of a lot of work in. Organizing things, and so what Liz would have. So the item that was number one in the feedback I decided yesterday that now I don't WanNa do that one. And so what she would do is she would delete it and then she would re number. All the all these. In the list of feedback. I'm not GONNA do that. It's just not worth my time to do. So I decided I'm just going to instead of what was there before I said, there's there's no feedback year go away moved to number two. Thank you. I'm wondering which would have taken you. that was trust me that was a lot faster than going to one and changing the title and the numbers and everything else. Anyway so let's start with. Number two. And This is from Stan I think he calls himself the stable. And So I need to do something here. He he he didn't really send us any message he sent us. A movie or video file. And the the the title. Of His. Of his feedback as airline pilots shouldn't have face tattoos. And and if you're. Looking at the show notes or watching the show via video, you're going see. What he said us. A museum and finally one of these old airplanes and you near into the navigator's compartment, and there's just as does Chicago. I didn't cut the audio out just cut out on I sound but the. Poor unfortunate speaking well, it looks a lot like similar to you. Looks like like an old curmudgeon. Yeah. It looks like it came from the Dulles Stories got ninety nine cents on the. Go understand. So Stan apparently decided to have some fun with a little video clip of Nick while we were doing one of the shows and he put these face tattoos on. On on neck and it's really really kind of scary frightening. Actually I'd say look at the look at me look at the airplane behind. Cassettes very apt considering plane tail today Oh. Yeah. How about that? Very apt? Okay. I love your Chiklis colored teeth. That's a nice touch. Green eating that colored show but. My. Tongue was bright pub food. Okay. So again to understand what the heck we're talking about either going to watch the video or you're going to have to look at the show notes and hopefully. You'll be able to play this this file from the show. was offended by. Airline pilots having faced at usual well. That's right. He did send that to the I'm offended an airline pilot guide dot com address. I've a removed you have and you look much. Better more did happened during the last laser attack. And actually, the benefit of the laser attack was he got rid of face. Very well, there's always a silver lining is in there. I'm a great believer. All right moving onto item three. This is from Brett. He said I ran across a video of an emergency landing of a Moonie that landed after a baggage door separated and it was speared by the horizontal. Stamp. Or maybe stabbed by the horizontal stamp. We. Also funding a whole I. Love You too looks like the pilot had a time trying to get it on the ground with limited inputs due to the elevator being partially jammed. Then he sent us a link to this youtube video, which we also have in the show notes for you all to check out. I'm not gonNA, play it. But. It's a good description here the baggage door. Somehow separated from the airplane and Got Stuck in the outer portion of the. Elevator where there's like a little piece that sticks forward they call it a an a horn. Elevator Horn right now with the call that a yes and often an era that make endo mass balance. Yes. So am I right Steph because I'm not really have the proper. Planes I didn't. Turn for it to be. Referred to as a horn, but I could be wrong. You're hold on the mind I. Guess I'm just cuddly. No. HR. You're doing so well before I got here. Continues So we have linked to the Youtube video for you all to check out again, it's a Mooney M, K. emergency landing. And he had luckily all these cameras going at the time and So, check it out. He continues I'm very glad to see rick as a mainstay on the podcast. No offense to the others but I love the rickets that he sneaks in as an aerospace engineer on like to Geek out on the mechanical details and systems of fly telling to keep up the good work. The podcast all the chatter keep going up to see you guys sometime soon after all the crazy Rona ridiculousness and that's Brett Seymour Rocket City aviation nerd rocket city is Huntsville Alabama. So, there you go is sent from an eye device. In the video, they call it the elevator elevator fork. Brand new. I think I, agree with you. Brandon Bullets Day. Don't kick them out. I think as one word for it's the think of says the actual correct. Proper wherever American for the airline pilot gotTA show. Merton I've I've made it so. Okay. Item for Texas Charlie. he said the other preflight safety speech. Oh I'm sorry. No, he sent this to lose. Let's move on to number five. I did he? Loses not here. Do you think that maybe he wanted to send this to all of us maybe Anyway. Email finds you well the attached alternate preflight safety speeches from Doug Lansky via Youtube I. Expect it's copyrighted and Mr Lansky is. Ravel writer and keynote speaker. What's? Rebel rider. What does that mean? Anybody under any ideas. Something writer and keynote speaker. Don't know what that means. Here. I don't know I can select US word and look up rabble. I think he slightly this time he meant rebel rouser and keynote speaker. Okay. He was referring to a rebel, Maurice French, composer. Actually. Maurice Joseph rebel or. He may have been referring to untangling or unraveling something. So. Ravel means to like get a travel get. All not not. Not Not Travel Ravel. Oh I see what you mean. It's a travel writer. Bing Bing Bing. You. Got It staff. Let me start in the jar I. Expect it's copyrighted and Mr. Lansky is a travel writer and keynote speaker. So he might be open to allowing a BG to use the content in exchange for a mentioned on the show. I don't WANNA mentioned Mr Lansky, or the fact that he's a travel writer or keynote speaker. So Instead of doing all that which seems like a lot of work. So we're going to just play like a little bit little teaser of this. Video, it's video and I have some audio from that. Greetings from the cockpit. This is your captain speaking are AV system isn't working today. So we can't show you the two million dollars safety video than an ad agency did for us but very little of what that video tells. You will actually save your lives. I'm going to do it instead. The FAA says that sixty percent of you ignore the safety talk today you'll hear the real safety talk you should have been giving years ago. What a tease? Now you're going to hear if you go over to this link on Youtube. So, check it out. Thanks. Texas Charlie. For that. All right is actually very funny this. The entire thing the other night. alrighty. Yeah entrance to get information, it is to be honest. For sure. All Right Sam. Rights I saw a picture from a local facebook page in Grimsby UK of a seven, forty, seven at doncaster. Airport done Kosta airport a couple of days ago. You can't park your vehicle on a yellow line or on the grass we'll get towed away even if it's a seventy one. So he has a picture of a seven forty seven. That was clearing the runway at Doncaster and It looks like it's a seven, forty, seven says big point lots of wheels didn't quite keep it on the on the tarmac on the on the concrete surface. And I pulled up the information about this airport just to see you know how big the runway is and all that kind of stuff it's. Not, a it's not. A short runway at all as nine, thousand, four, hundred and ninety one feet long. I'm not sure exactly how many meters that would be a lot of meters and is one hundred, ninety, seven feet wine. So it's almost two hundred feet wine. So it's a plenty of big runway but apparently the. This. And a lot of other photos here of the of the incident and the wheels and the in the grass and mud. Yeah. Kind of embarrassing I would guess. I liked the way they've got a couple of recovery trucks that would normally come along. Fix You on the side of the motorway. All peps if you had a little car but if you had Laurie, it would or tractor trailer is Eighteen Wheeler Laurie. Big Truck Truck. Yes. And they've chained him to the wheels to these. Garage. Chained of the whales to put his way to attract the airplane from the soft surface. Yeah I hope that's going approved. I'm sure it is. Yeah. They put those e They found these guys a parked next door to the airport at the pub. Hey come on over here hasn't big chains. Gallery something recovery. Spit a fun job for the. I'm sorry Armando is suggesting that I pronounce it Don Cau- Staw. Better. He's also said there's zero. Thank all right, Ray. Rights Oh. This the next couple of e mails regard or pieces of feedback regard the. Last flight of. Qantas's. Seven. Forty. Sevens. And So I have some some videos to play in such. I, WanNa we from our good friend and ABC Community member for quite some time Ray Davis. In Sydney and he says ABC crew hope that you are well city said goodbye to another queen of the sky from the Qantas Fleet of also attached a shot clip as she flew right over my house before returning to Sydney. International. Airport. Take care and stay safe. So apparently did a whole bunch of these farewell flights And let me share the screen and we can look at the video that Ray. took himself. She is. Beautiful, some forty-seven and Qantas livery by by. Being. Just want to watch that all day long. Okay And we also. Gave Her some A link to. A twitter account at breaking news. which also has some video and so let me. Pull that up. Must have been on fire or something or the fire trucks are out. Doing a wash just to preventative. Use a little dirty. Filthy. Taking off on runway one six, right. Big Beautiful airplane rolling down the runway of course, not as beautiful as the eighty, three, forty, six, hundred but. You know. Shabby. Thank you GotTa Make My Co hosts happy. Rick, is not here today. Rolling down the runway truckloads open why I think this is the very first one. They received at contests. A. Nice smooth rotation. landing gear is being retracted. and. It's going to I don't know if this is the very last flight or one of these several. Last flights that it took some really nice footage from a chase plane. Showing. Flying around the. Supreme. Court hanger and also the Opera House I saw on the back of their at the botanical gardens is a naval. Dockyard. Say. Yeah. Really. Really Pretty video footage. So. Thank you for sending the link To that. Right the flight were they then went out and flew the like kangaroo drawing sky doodle I. Don't know if it was this one specifically or not it may have been I don't know but I did see that as well. Let's keep moving on to the next item, which also deals with the Qantas some forty seven. This is from tristen. After. Many years of listening. I have finally put together some feedback and attached to this email along with some accompanying pictures. Love the show keep up the good work chairs Tristan. Hi. There captains, doctors, longtime listener finally a facebook, our feedback submitter. Hopefully, I don't waffle on too much treston from Brisbane. Brisbane Brisbane sorry I just like hearing jeff say Brisbane. Say, wrong. In Australia. Some feedback on a flight I took recently from Brisbane to Brisbane. Between Brisbane and Brisbane. Brisbane Brisbane Kosta Doncaster. Difficult to pronounce for American words can we. Discern. Difficult for me. he continues not sure whether you have spoken about this on the show, but before all this pandemic stuff happened back in two thousand, eighteen if I recall correctly Qantas announced their plan to retire their seven forty sevens by the end of twenty twenty. After the pandemic hit Qantas flew the Queen's to the Mojave desert for what they said at the time was storage quote. And that they would return but most of US had doubts in June as part of a larger announcement Qantas delivered the news that retirement of the seven forty sevens would be brought forward this while sad didn't come as a surprise sad fallout from the decline in air travel but I don't need to tell you that Qantas has a proud history operating the seven, forty, seven, one spanning almost fifty years they have operated almost all. Excuse me almost all major variants starting with the seven, forty, seven, dash two, hundred in nineteen, seventy-one, the seven, forty, seven s sp seven, forty, seven, three, hundred, seven, forty, seven, four, hundred, and finally the seven, forty, seven, four, hundred Er Qantas were not only the launch customer of the seven, forty, seven, four, hundred are but also the only operator of that particular variant allowing them to fly from Melbourne to Los. Angeles with a full load. At one period between the retirement of their last seven, oh seven and nine, hundred, seventy, eight and the delivery of their first seven, six, seven in nineteen eighty-five Qantas operated an all seven, forty, seven fleet. He continues sorry wrong. PODCAST I didn't get the. I didn't get the. What he was referring to there but. I guess I'm kind of. Referring to different podcast. I know. Which one those get. Okay so you don't get it either. At the time of the retirement announcement, there was no mention of any celebration. I guess partly because they were also announcing the plan to move all their a three eighty to Victorville until at least twenty, twenty three nonetheless, not giving her a farewell would have been an absolute travesty then earlier this month and much to the glee of many including me. Qantas. Announced they would operate three farewell jumbo joy flights. These flights will depart from Sydney Brisbane and Canberra and be operated by the last remaining seven forty seven dash four hundred e R. in Australia Victor Hotel Oscar Juliette named. Okay. Now. I'm going to have trouble here is that. What would you say nick I'm trying to find out way you are in the tanks to. But. Well. Okay. If you see the first paragraph. One. So then the next. Paragraph as W. U. N. A. L. A. When Allah. Sounds good. Pronounce, things. The seems like it'd be a reasonable way to pronounce it but a bet, it's something completely different. After it carried out the Nala dreaming livery for a number of years. Oh, EJ was also the. One nine. Nine. One Ala yeah might. One another upon the Bobby. I can't do absurdly. Said your. Average. Guy. Accent. I was Nama Draymond. Thank you. Better late than never next. Big. Politics I'm trying to find one word. I just assume that you're always following along with me, but apparently occasionally look at it. The Chat Room. Can help how many listeners don't do that? There's a great distraction. Okay where was I? E J was also the fifty seventh and final seven, forty seven to be delivered to Qantas touching down in Australia and August two thousand three hours wrong is not the first one was on like the fit the last one. Tickets for each of the flights were limited to one hundred, fifty economy and even less in business and unsurprisingly were highly sought after selling out between ten and twenty minutes depending on what you read. Much to my excitement I was one of the lucky ones getting myself a seat in economy. The day finally came and I was like kit on their birthday up early and out the door to the airport after a few snacks and the Qantas Lounge I went to the gate to watch the Queen Land and tax to the gate. Kidney much to my surprise, we boarded on time and I was seated in row seventy one I was in the first group to board even managing to be number one down the Arab bridge. After pushing back, we were given a water cannon salute a fitting farewell by the A R F F. We taxied past the pact spotters area to the short line of runway one nine. No one cared that we sat there for about ten minutes to allow a Medevac helicopter to get on the ground as any extra time on board was precious. After being given clearance the four big GE cf sixes were S- pulled up, and we thundered down the runway taking off to the south banking. Right? We headed over the Brisbane CBD making to two thousand foot passes before sending to only four thousand feet and making course south. The Day was absolutely gorgeous. So a low and slow pass. The Gold Coast made for a stunning photo opportunity after making a u-turn just past the Gold Coast airport, we headed back to track around. Brady Brady. I Dunno B. R. I I. E. and. The Morton I islands or more at Nyland's just south of Brisbane before sadly turning back towards Brisbane airport he does use the word Brisbane quite a lot in this. As a final farewell, the queen flew a runway heading above Brisbane airport's newest runway one, nine right which had only been opened three days prior before banking left over the Qantas hangars eventually back around one nine left for a perfect touchdown while taxing to the hangers a number of crew came over the PA not only to thank us. But who also acknowledged those members of the crew for whom this was their last the last address was one of the captains who would be leaving the cockpit for the last time. You could hear the emotion in his voice especially when he spoke of his family being on board at that point, I really felt the human aspect of the event. After being told to the hangar, we were able to hop off and walked around the Queen. Took a number of photos but for a period I just stood there and looked up transfixed. After about an hour, it was all over groups of Qantas employees were arriving to have their time to say goodbye to the workhorse of the Qantas Fleet. Travel back to the airport a few hours later to watch her take off for the last time, and again as she disappeared off into the distance, I just stood there while I love to look at the seventy seven, Dash Nine, dash ten along with the eighth three fifty. Nothing compares to the Queen of the skies. Except the Airbus three, forty, six, hundred. According to you Captain Jeff. Yeah. That was interesting this the. J will complete one more joy flight out of. Before, finally, departing the Australian shores and the twenty second of July which was about a week ago. which will be a very sad day for Australian aviation she will join her sisters in Mojave with a future that is currently unknown. While not in the air, the Queen will live on in Australia as we are blessed to have to ex- Quanta, some forty sevens on static display. Victor Hotel Echo. Bravo. Quebec a two hundred B series is located at the Qantas Founders Museum and long reach outback Queensland. The Second Victor Hotel Oscar Juliette Alpha four hundred series is on display at the Historical Aircraft Restoration Society Museum in Illawarra new. South Wales. As a side note, vision of these jets landing at the airports on which the museums are located makes for some cool viewing. Airports with runways just big enough to handle the landing but not the takeoff. Once on the ground, the two jets were never to leave and you can imagine the dust kicked up when the Echo Bravo Quebec landed in the Australian outback. I've been lucky enough to visit both exploring them inside and out from the rear bulkhead to the cockpit and even a walk out onto the wing. Hopefully. Not in-flight getting right up into these two jets makes you really appreciate the evolution of seven forty sevens and aircraft in general from the pulleys and cables to the kilometers and kilometers, kilometers and kilometers of wiring. To anyone who lives in? Australia or who visits Australia when all this pandemic stuff is over I, highly recommend visiting both of these museums have also benefited from the aforementioned joy flights with profits being shared between them a nice touch from Qantas, keeping this heritage alive. Hopefully I haven't waffled too much my words and pictures probably don't do justice to the day that it was loved the show hopefully once. Monday, I get the chance to meet everyone cheers tristen and I'm going to share some of these. Very nice photos that he included in. His massage era go. I'm looking at that flight radar, twenty, four trank and I'm. The devil of me I can't see a kangaroo. Really. Yeah, that's clearly a kangaroo will come up with a minute. It's like it's like IOS magic is where you have to. Stare really. move away slowly. Standing on his head or something. That is not the one that really. That was. Yeah, there's another one that. That's not included in his feedback. That was another flight that explains everything. This is the one that he was on. Did Not drug and. That was very cruel of you. But I. Love it very. Goes Yeah Yeah. Look he just got. A Pre? Kangaroo. The kangaroo taking arrest lying down. Apparently it's been a while since Nicosia Kangaroos. This particular pilot was not a very good artist. Anyway Very Nice pictures taken by Tristen. Thank you for that. Sir. References from opposing basis I should probably really know that since worrying t shirt. For me. The reference to the other podcasts that you were right in the middle of back. So, why so I still don't get the reference though because will stop and we'll talk about something that he continues on. Oh blessed that too. So that's why I hear that other places as well. So it wasn't a hundred percent certain. That's what wait a minute wait. Till the people people that are listening to our and watching our show actually listen and watch other podcasts. Well Where they find. Try to monopolize all, of your, Time. Right. Anyway. All right. Let's do this. Kidding. Well that has been discussed but I don't think that that's any thing that's our near future. Okay Let's see. We can move on. Thank you ray and Tristan down under for your. Feedback regarding own and just a quick mentioned when Stephen and I were on the road trip. After coming down from Death Valley. In the Mojave Desert we actually passed the airport at which these seven forty sevens from Qantas are parked. We saw a couple of two or three maybe more on the. On the airport property there and this one wasn't there at the time obviously because this was still doing all their. Joy flights and stuff like that. But. Anyway. But that was kind of sad seeing them just sitting there rotting away. Anyway. Steve. This is an interesting one. Steve Says Hi Guys Love Your Show have been listening for quite a while. Now I saw this on instagram feed from a friend and wondered if you had seen it if not, I thought, you'd enjoy it You've probably seen this but I don't remember hearing discuss it. So I thought I'd pass it on. Video. From instagram and it's it was a Hawker Hawker. It was a drug runners Hawker found in the jungle on a dirt strip according to the poster and the Guatemalan Air Force fluid out. I'm a private pilot and travel photographer who was traveling on airlines for business at least twice a month before this crisis started and always hoped to run into one of you at an airport one day hopefully eventually, we will all start flying again soon. Yeah. We're all hoping that fingers crossed. My best you all and keep up the fantastic show anyway enjoy this incredible take off. All right. So here we go. Again, we're going to share the screen and it's again from instagram. Oh. Yeah. This is this is a good divvy hits the big bump. This looks Kinda. Axel. Starting it helicopter in the background. Almost. Looks like that could have easily got down like out of control when I hit that bump. A wide and it's Really rough runway. Collapse. Your comes a helicopter chasing after. Anyway I guess these videos loop an instagram so. She had Tasha. What should I? First of all, I didn't think it was real I thought it was one of these. MOCK UPS But when it flew past, go. That's real. Really. That's not one of those. You know radio controlled model things. Yeah exactly. Does kind of look like though the way it's Kinda bouncing around I haven't they put gumshield same when they. Started Rolling because. Lost Teeth. Steve for sharing that with us again, that's Steve Serves. Santa Clara. Or Cynical I. Don't know how you pronounce his Santa. Claus now no Santa. Some gory. Is from Italy. Nice. I like Italy Italy is one of my favorite holiday destinations. It's very Italian place. Nate is declaring pizza. That they do. So we'd have do we have time to do another one before we do? A six minutes. Okay. So. Let's do this from Knickknack Jack haven't heard from him in a while. He sent us from audio feedback. Hey PG crew. It's knickknack checking in. Flight, level three six, zero on an Airbus a three thirty. Flying in my flight Sim from San Francisco to Seoul. I wanted to check in first of all 'cause I haven't checked in a long long time. And Welcome Miami Rick Back to the PODCAST. It's great to hear Your Voice Again Rick and to hear your stories of doggonit around the world I also want to comment on the retirement of the mad dog and the seven seven. Seven seven was. One of my favorite aircraft is one of my favorite aircraft my first international flight as a passenger in the real world was in a Qantas seven or seven from. LAX. To Melvin back in the spring two thousand and one before. Restrictions got tight and all that very fondly remember that flight and a couple of other subsequent flights. I had in the some seven four hundred on. So sad to see more and more airlines Tirane on most recently be a though I'm sure many many other airlines will subsequently retire it also see the sad to see the mad dog go I had a couple of flights in my life as a real passenger on mad dog can't say it was. My favorite airplane as a passenger but. from a systems perspective and a kind of old school st engage. Airline operations perspective. It certainly was an interesting aircraft and I'm sad to see go on and of course, Saturday to hear about all the displacements. Particularly, Captain Dana and Captain Jeff. Captain Jeff I hab a simulated. Of the seven, one, seven that I'm learning. I think you'll like the aircraft from everything. I've heard. It's you know Saddam D. Ninety five basically So it's just got the you know the screens as opposed the steam gauges in the coal fire stuff so It's it's a seems a similar aircraft from everything I understand and. It's an interesting aircraft why I'm definitely learning a lot as I figure out how to fly on. Short elevator flights up and down. California captain deny if you're listening I wish you the best of luck in your some thirty seven training. I have spent a lot of time in the simulated seven, thirty seven, which of course is not the same. But I think you'll find. The biggest drawback is obviously the confined. That aside, from that the airplane itself I think you'll find that it's some to the mad dog and a lot of ways in that it's a classic design that has been updated with modern avionics and it's you know like like Rick and said, it's a triple seven style avionics. You out to do manual generators in manual pack selection, accenture but. It's an interesting aircraft and it's the aircraft virtually cut my teeth on so. A Good Luck to you Dana I wish you the best and I wish the best to everyone that has been. Dramatically affected by what we're currently going through in their job either in the airlines or where whatever work you may be doing finally on a lighter note I wanna say that I have gone to the dark side Nick I'm with you all on the rest. The file is corrupted. Wish I could play the rest. Of the situation I don't. Know what happened next? Wait a minute. Let me see if I can fix it way. I love the Airbus I have. Been Myself through twenty, three, thirty, I've got my eye on the three fifty. Absolutely love it So Rick I'm sorry gone to the dark side I can't go back if. Anybody wants to check out my flight sending adventures at US right along dot com is my website. And I hope to check in again in the future I love the podcast course and it keeps me happy. As, I'm doing both long haul and short haul simulated flight. So take care guys. Thanks. Well. That's why we're here Knickknack Jack to keep people happy or at least we try. So. And we're happy to be absolutely I'm so pleased here enjoying flying the Abbasid has a lot of great advantages. And so long as you're actually flying it and not just pushing the take. It's going to say the experience it sounded like a very, very quiet flight down. On. The simulated version of the. was what was To begin with a three thirty. Somewhere at thirty, six, thousand feet on the way to Seoul. You're right. It does sound very, very quiet. Very quiet. I can hear a pin drop. So I was listening to the feedback. He was talking about the man dogs and such and I guess a little grumpy when I was listening to this. I need to set the record straight the acme the acne mad dogs did not have steam gauges I. Know Everybody always said that but they didn't they have a glass panel displays just like the seven thirty sevens and seven sixty seven flying around today the early versions of the mad dogs. Like the ones the that American flu. Did have the the steam. Gauges. But by the time acme ordered, the jet had been feted with more advanced avionics seven. Has. An advanced flight deck modeled after the MD eleven and triple seven. has six eight by eight inch liquid crystal displays on the instrument panel from the heart of the new advanced flight deck. The primary flight display combines all the primary flight information previously presented you reading the brochure reading what I wrote down in the show notes. This is this is what I read. The PF combines all the primary flight information presented by the six round dial instruments used in traditional older electromechanical flight decks, attitude, airspeed altitude, and heading presentations retaining the basic t arrangement of traditional flightdeck. So basically, anybody that's flying more modern airplane with a more modern displays will you know this is the same primary flight display that the US up on seven has in it? So. That'll be kind of Nice to have and the other nice thing about it is that and I have a picture that through here in as well. From actually a simulated seven, one, seven cockpit panel. But with the with the six Greens laid basically horizontally from left to right it'll be nice to not having have to look around my yoke to see the navigation display which was much smaller and was like right behind the yolk. It was not a good place for you kind of have to go look around look around the corner sometimes to see it. But Anyway So Nicholas continues something I forgot to include knowing there are other Flight Sim fanatics and the Committee I was wondering if someone had made an acme airlines livery for any of the Popular Flight Sims, it would be a joy to fly around in an acme giant acne read just playing acme aircraft. You don't somebody I think it was Jim. That did our. AP Gee. I mean Acme Air Logo he played around and put some liveries on some some jets, but it wasn't related to flight selling software. So. But I bet you'd be amazed up Mace. What is 'cause during the plane? Tana told a while ago. That was all about the Canadian make one coast that was April full people have actually created flight SIM skins, full size aircraft with all those mock markings on which I think is hilarious because. A lot of people still at realize it was April full white i. was. An April fool's yeah. Oh jocularity. Anyway sure that. You know maybe somebody out there has if you're listening and you've done that would you please let us all know them. We can point people in your direction they can get. Can You put? As. Well Yeah. Please absolutely why would you want to put it on anything else? anyways, thanks for keeping me a formed and entertained as I. Fly virtual skies. This is Nicholas Jackson, Aka Nick Nick Jack, and again his website F S for Flight Sim ride along Dot Com. From the Knickknack Jack podcast network. got. A. Whole Network. All right. I think that means now it's time for the best part of the show, which of course, everybody knows is this week's installment of the old pilots. Plain Tales. and. This week's version is entitled the Son of a Nola tibbets. Here we go. The pilots plane title. Son of Nola tips. He's dead now, but you'll find no stone to mark his grave since he has the grave nor Markelle. which is a little odd for a much decorated American hero. who fought for his country with outstanding bravery. But it was his wish and his family accepted the. Poll Warfield tibbets originally came from Quincy Illinois, but his family moves around until they settled for a while in Florida. Is Father hold tibbets Sena solid confectionery, which would make him many boys, dream father, but Paul Junior always. In flying. By the age of twelve he was helping out in an old Wacko flame by Doug Davis is part of a he's Flying Circus during out candy bars fitted with tiny parachutes into the crowd of onlookers below. It made a big impression on the youngster and he later said from that day on I. Knew I had to fly. Back on the move tibbets attended the Western military academy and then the University of Florida but his interest in aviation continued and he took flying lessons at Miami's Open Locka airport although his intended profession this time was as a surgeon. Our. But before he completed his studies at the University of Cincinnati, he decided to enlist in the US army and become a pilot the all mea coal. With his background poll have been able to get into the Aviation Cadet training program which gave him an age and during his army flight training, he was assessed as an above average pilot. Commissioned as a second lieutenant. Training complete, he was assigned to the sixteenth observation, Squadron, which supported the infantry school at the nearby full Benny. And he's private life it fallen in love with his bride to be Lucy, and they were married the whole eternity Roman. Catholic seminary. His promotion continued initially to first lieutenant and then captain and he was selected to be a personal that but brigadier-general George Pattern. For the United States involvement in World War Two approaching tidbits was transferred to fly launch. Palmer's initially the twenty havoc and then the B seventeen flying fortress he was expecting to go to MacDill field when the Japanese right on Jojoba bought the country to a war footing. We submarine attacks expected. He soon found himself flying anti submarine patrols out of Pope Army airfield in B eighteen. Bolos instead. Nineteen forty two. So tibbets being given the command of the three hundred fortieth bombardment squadron and they deployed with their be seventeen to join the eighth air force in England operate and of our F- Paul Breaux. They were part of the ninety seventh bombardment group which had been hastily assembled there to fulfill the needs for high altitude daylight bombing a mission for which they had had little training. The Royal Airforce Keen to assist provided veteran instructors to give some help but being the first group to be deployed to fight the war in Europe they were very much the finders for the army f false in this theater. Pretty soon, Paul Tibbets was made second in command of the group and he found himself flying the lead bomber, the butcher shop on their first raid against the rail marshalling yard in Ruin Franz. It was a success despite the fact that he wasn't with his regular crew nor in his own aircraft. But then a few weeks to bits flew another ground breaking mission when he led the first American raid all over one hundred aircraft to attack industrial targets in the French city of Lille. They were continually harried by German fighters resulting in the loss of thirty three out of the hundred and eight aircraft that participated and bombing accuracy was poor for the first. Time. Poll soul the damage they did when not hitting the target but bombing innocent French civilians and he faced the dilemma that troubled many in times of wall. These people don't have any business getting killed. He thought they armed soldiers us. He debated with himself on the morals of warfare and came to the conclusion that he was supposed to be a bomber pilot on was there to destroy a target. I wouldn't be worth anything if I didn't do that. He made up his mind then that the morality of dropping that bomb was not his business when he was instructed to perform a military mission that was the thing he was gained to do to the best of his ability. And the lead up to the allied invasion of north. Africa. The commander of the eight their false was ordered to provide his two best pilots for a secret mission. Tibbets was one of those chosen and he flew Major General Clark to Gibraltar, and later he repeated the flight with the Supreme Allied Commander Lieutenant General Eisenhower on bold. Historian Stephen Ambrose described tibbets as by reputation the best fire in the army. Foss. In. North Africa as part of Major General Jimmy doolittle's Twelfth Air Force he participated in much fist fighting against heavily defended objectives to pave the way for allied landings. By now, tibbets had received a field promotions a colonel, but it was blocked by the assistant chief of staff of operations where he'd now being assigned saying that was only going to be one. COUDL in operations. When the chief of the Army Fox's ost for an experienced pilot to help develop the new B, twenty, nine superfortress Jimmy doolittle recommended tibbets. So poll found himself back in the states working with Boeing in Wichita. He flew many house on the new aircraft more than any other pilot and he contributed a great deal to the success of the Obama. Is experienced led to a recommendation that he joined the Manhattan. Project the allied group who developing the world's first atomic bomb. Finally promoted to colonel. Tibbets was given the task of creating the five hundred ninth composite group. A completely self contained organization of eighteen hundred men with fifteen b twenty, nine's it's important became apparent by the priority that was given to the vast array of military stores. They needed already working at high levels of secrecy within the five hundred ninth, a group of handpicked specialists known as the first ordinance who was skilled with metallurgy with tasked with building the first bums whilst project Alberta became the group who dealt with the problems of delivery. Already, a conventional bomb made to the same dimensions and weights of the fat man atomic bomb had been created known as the Pumpkin. These provided realistic training for the men redesigning the full Bombay of the B twenty nine and the crews training to drop it. The aircraft modified to carry the huge weapon where part of the silver plated project later into Silva Plate, a term that encompassed training as well. Then man and fat man codenames where a dumped it for the weapons themselves cover story was devised. Silva. Plate was all about me finding pullman railway car for use by president. Franklin Roosevelt thin man and the United. Kingdom's prime. Minister Winston Churchill fat man on a secret to her the United States. On the sixteenth of July. Nineteen forty-five the gadget, the nickname given to the first test nuclear weapon was hoisted to the top of one hundred foot tower and detonated. It produced the equivalent of twenty kilotonnes of T. N. T. and the shock wave was felt over a hundred miles away. To explain away that in the mushroom cloud that reached over seven miles into the clear sky a cover story about an ammunition magazine explosion at Alamogordo field was issued. Oppenheim who led the team of scientists who developed the weapon wrote that he knew the world would not be the same. A few people laugh a few people cried most was silent. He remembered a line from Hindu scripture. Now I am become death the destroyer of worlds. I suppose we all thought that one way or another he said. By now, tibbets and his team had been moved to an field on the island of Tinian, part of the Mariana Group where they set up the necessary facilities to assemble and deliver the weapon. They had a number of concerns, not the least of which was the reliability of the B, Twenty nine they've been conducting attacks on Japan dropping the conventionally armed pumpkin bombs, which contained a mere three tons of high explosive. When one fell through the closed Bombay doors of the B twenty nine onto the taxi way a shower of sparks as the aircraft named strange cargo prepared for takeoff. Firefighters managed to douse the weapon with foam and it didn't decimate. But then within a period of a week, four, b twenty, nine crashed and burned on the runway. If this happened to one carrying an atomic bomb, it could easily decimate with catastrophic consequences. From then on, it was decided to load the breach of the atomic weapon once the B twenty nine was in flight. The target choice was passed down without tibbets involvement, but the day before as final preparations were made, he decided to name his craft in older gay after his mother. He had personally selected the aircraft when it was still on the assembly line in Bellevue Nebraska but was now on the other side of the globe and tomorrow, he would fly it on this vital mission. tibbets decided to fly the mission that late noticed and he moved the regular exercise commander into the couponers position taking command himself. On the sixth of August nineteen, forty, five colonel tibbets tough from Tinian in an older gay accompanied by two other b twenty, nine's and instrumentation and a photographic aircraft for the six hour flight to Russia. They arrived overhead on a clear day at thirty one, thousand feet about an hour earlier, the B twenty, nine straight flush and flown over the target. Umbro caused a short message. Cloud cover less than three tents at all altitudes advice bomb primary. The Air Raid Warning had sounded in Harare up for the previous IVA flight. But then gave the all clear. Tibbets handy control of the aircraft, the Bombardier. Who has gained a guide the B twenty nine over the final few months. Eight fifteen in the morning he released the what. The little boy took four seconds to full from the aircraft before the hundred and forty one pounds sixty, four kilos of uranium two, three, five whereas decimated. At a little below two thousand feet. Over the city Amir, hundred feet from its aiming point. By the time, the shock wave reached delegate. It was around eleven miles pasta released from. Detonation was remarkably inefficient releasing energy from only one point, seven percent of its fissionable material. But even this was a quivalent to sixteen thousand metric tons of tea and. Radius of total destruction was about a mile but intense five breakout from the thermal blast covering an area four and a half square miles. Some seventy to eighty thousand people around thirty percent of the population were killed by the blast and resulting firestorm. The same number where injured. Japanese officials determined that sixty nine percent of the buildings in Hiroshima was destroyed. Japanese Second Army were conducting physical training Bailey nine hundred yards less than a kilometer from. Ground Zero. Three thousand two, hundred and forty three troops were killed. Twelve captured American emon being held in a police headquarters were killed most instantly from the blast, but two survived to be stoned to death by local populous. Eight US prisoners of war killed during medical experiments as part of a program in the local university had their deaths blamed on the attack as an attempt to cover up. Sixteen hours later while still coming to terms with the tank, the Japanese heard from President Truman. If they do not now accept our terms they may expect to reign of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this. Over time and to this very. Arguments have gained in las support on the ethical legal moral. A military justification for the use of this nuclear weapon as new evidence has become available on his new studies have been completed. Remains the subject of both popular and scholarly debate. Some think that Japan would not have surrendered unless there was an overwhelming demonstration of destructive to capability. Those who oppose the bombing argue that it was militarily unnecessary and a naval blockade and conventional bombings would have forced. Japan to surrender. Colonel. Tibbets said that he knew when he got the assignment, it was gained to be an emotional thing. We had feelings, but we had to put them in the background. We knew it was going to kill people right and left. But my one driving interest was to do the best job I could so that we could end the killing as quickly as possible. I sleep clearly every night. His career continued pace many key positions such as the attache in London. An director in the strategic, Ed Division. He served as the B forty seven Strato jet project officer before commanding the three hundred eighth bombardment wing and at the close of his career being promoted to Brigadier General an assigned to the joint chiefs of strong. In retirement he contributed to films and books about his part in the conclusion of the Second World War something that occasionally caused contention. But he was on apologetic about the pop he play. He denounced the Smithsonian's fiftieth anniversary exhibition all the NOLA gay calling a big damn inside. The director of the National Air and Space Museum was compelled to resign but the controversy. Tibbets died in two, thousand and seven. Concerned that his grave might become a place of protests or desecration. y'All said he'd be cremated and his ashes scattered over the English. The body of water that spelt safety as he returned from his many wartime missions in his B seventeen Red Gremlin. Whenever I visit South Coast which I do often and look out across the channel. I show ponder the life of this fine pilot. Unable to seek eternal rest beneath a gravestone bearing his name. Well Another. Very. Well, done. Plane Tail. And? Tough one and that was. An Amazing Part of our history. It was and it's very hard now to make comments without sanding clip. But what I wanted to do really was point out how this mission and the aftermath all these years past. Affected this one man who was the pilot and the the brave very brave and very highly decorated World War Two pilot. Who flew this final mission? was. This that. Led him to offer his family. Not. To mark his place of rest. To scatter his ashes in English Channel. That is the aspect that I find. So tragic about the story I know there something else that is vastly more tragic, and that is the fact that we were at war in the first place and people were dying. In Fos numbers but I just wanted to isolate this one side fact out of this mission and that was how it affected Paul Tibbets right up to his now my to understand that he could have based on his position as basically running the entire. Squadron. He could have. Stayed back at Guam right. He didn't have to be in the actual airplane that dropped the bomb. Correct. In fact, his decision to fly that mission was any taken a few days prior and The captain, all the commander of the mission who who's coughed it was was actually a bit upset that he was pushed into the copilot's seat and his craft was renamed the gay and Tibbets decided himself to take that responsibility on his shoulders and fly that mission so he didn't need to. Put that upon himself but I suspect his feeling of duty. put him in that position. So you know I think it was very honorable man and he stopped by his guns even through the decades afterwards where he was a central point of all this. Controversy concerning an older guy on the dropping of nuclear weapons on Japan and something we'll never be resolved because they're they're always going to be too. Divergent points of view. and it'd be very hard to bring those two together. This time case by people will be less emotional about it I. Think more about how it bolt that wall to a very quick close and might well have prevented a many many more deaths that would have occurred otherwise other people have other opinions but I think it's Not The military by on I see it from a military man's pointed to and what I see is that is a great example of leadership. You basically took it upon himself the responsibility to do it. Yeah. and His face that led the crew even though he didn't actually dropped the bomb. I was his bombardier that did that He you know he was there and all the pictures and you see him as part of the aircraft and he's the one that. The kind of is carried the weight of the mission on his shoulders. What's really sad is he has ashes dumped over something. That's English. Not American now. Just. Very proud of that. He had no you're. Right. She very proud that this man felt that little bit of water just sandwich sunny thirty miles away from. Is He chose to have his ashes scattered I I'm I think that's obviously it was great significance to him. I suspect as he fought his way back from bombing missions I've France and Germany. It is be seventeen with one of these daylight formations being harried by scientists the hallway, the arrival of the channel meant that at least the enemy action was even led to do now is find base, and if the weather was camp safely last, always a sunny day we know that. As for previous play tales a huge number of lies would loss just in that the final marriage. Yeah. For Brim brave very brave up. Like you said well known, but you know you definitely found a way to. Highlight. lesser-known bits. Bits thanks. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks. That was exactly my I had no idea we. Dropped, a bomb on Japan. That's was interesting stuff. That's all new to me. Just. You you're. Coburg? Joking by the way, please don't send any negative. Feedback regarding highland said did airline pilots? Alright. You ever heard of this guy named George Nali. Jerk. Think he does a a podcast ready for take-off podcast he. Apparently. Is Getting caught up in the show. We send US three pieces of feedback when it rains, it pours in a good way. So I put all these together listed actually. So, let's start off with the first one during World War. Two. Bob. Hoover. ESCAPED FROM POW camp. Oh I, think this is in regard to we were talking about the the were on fire. The forest is on fire gotta get into an airplane we'd never flown before. And I've and fly it how we're going GONNA. Do that remember that on a few episodes back? Oh Yep Yep okay. Bob We decided to start the engines. Start. Well, make you feel even worse. This guy named Bob Hoover never heard of him who? Escaped from a POW camp in stole a German airplane and fluid back to England. Now, it'd be a little worried if he wasn't able to do that to be to be. True. I deny how they started those some of them have big fly Wales here to crank can get enough inertia to start kicking this engineer. I. Don't even have these things started I don't either. Apparently. Bruce. Car Stolen German plane and flew back to safety. And our why didn't take account? Should have. Bam. and Vietnam this is interesting. I stole this George I stole A. One and fluid back to denying. But that was only in my dreams. It's also in my upcoming novel. Did I mentioned that? George. Not only is he a podcast host a great one, but he is also a great novelist writer. And he has a series of of novels that he's already written. The Ham fist series I believe it's called George Nali ready for take-off podcast. Let's continue with the second one he sent us. Another great episode. Thank you George regarding two, hundred, fifty, nine below ten thousand. It came about as a result of the collision between U. A. L. Eight, twenty, six and Twa to sixty six. I remember it well because although I was a kid at the time. My uncle had been working in downtown Manhattan when it occurred and pieces of the wreckage came down very close to his location. I talked about several accidents including this in ready for take-off podcast episode thirty six. we'll have that link in the show notes for you include the accident report in the show notes, and you can see the two hundred and fifty below ten requirement as item six on page twenty five. Dan Hampton author of numerous books including lords of the sky is my guest on ready for takeoff podcast episode twenty seven. Dan Lives here in Colorado and I've known him for several years although he writes mostly nonfiction I'm partial to his novel, the mercenary and he gave us a link to that on Amazon? So Like, a bunch of great books to check out and podcast episodes from ready for takeoff. And then finally. We were talking about. Missiles and proximity detonations, and that sort of thing on a previous show and he said surface to air missiles, SAMs definitely have the capability for proximity that nation's and thirty eight years ago my element lead and I- ops checked it and got confirmation. My element lead got hit with shrapnel from a proximity burst and was pissing fuel oil and hydraulic fluid, but still flying and made it all the. Way Back from north Vietnam to denying I describe the mission and Sam hit and chapters forty, nine and fifty of ham over Hanoi which is book three of the Ham Fist trilogy, which is in the AP G. Library. He said thanks unlike some of the other stories in the series the events of July third nine, hundred, seventy, two in the book are totally true exactly as I remember them. And of course, your listeners can download ham fist over Hanoi and kindle format for less than the price of a `grande at starbucks and he goes shameless plug. George. You can plug your stuff here. Anytime you want so. Check out his great books and links that he left us especially to the links of. The ready for take-off podcast episodes cited. Thanks Georgia. Item Thirteen hotel? Kilo. Hamish now He I think he's thinking we're sending this two different podcast because here we actually use names. Yeah Yeah so let me yeah we can use your. So I'M GONNA call them Hamish which I don't believe as his real name, but maybe it is. He's a very private man apparently, he doesn't WanNA. Can you really blame him? He doesn't want anybody nowadays. Listening to our show. I I had my identity I know you do. Her name really isn't stuff. Okay Isn't this. Okay so Great Show I think he's talking about the episode where we talked about the. human error. To blame for downing of Ukrainian jet, the For the Iranian Military I launched a surface to air missile shut down the Ukrainian airline's flight. Is, that. Isn't this another cogan air or Air France four forty-seven lack of basic skills. Also. The same airline who after a failed first attempt and go around at Dutch harbor one three, run my or excuse me flight thirty, two, ninety, six, loss control. And actually, they overran the end of the runway while landing with tailwind a twenty nights and no that was. The airline there was era aviation E. R. A. and has been renamed corvus. No I'm sorry. Pan Air. Is the airline. that. Operated the Dutch harbor run my overrun and on June. First of last year they ceased direct ticket sales under its own brand and from that day all Perr flights are marketed and sold using Raven Alaska, flight numbers the. Lack of pilot skills. That we were talking the episode or the incident that we were talking about or two, which he's referring believe as the. Ones where the guys were paying. So close attention to icing and that kind of thing, and the airplane stalled, and they lost Mutt five thousand feet or something before they were able to recover from it that was era or era aviation which has been renamed corvus airlines and currently does Mrs, Raven? Alaska. All those regional airlines. FEEDERS for. Alaska, Airlines and. Then he gives us a whole list of incidents and airlines flight numbers and dates and stuff like that. But I'm not gonna read out because even he says in his feedback. Too many to read out for Info only. Anyway. He continues appalling waste of life after the Russians shoot down of Malaysia Airlines. Flight Seventeen, there is such a cheap salute. So now he's referring to the downing of the Ukrainian jet. Okay. So maybe I kind of completed some of these things here so So he's talking about the downing of the Ukrainian jet appalling waste of life. After the Russians shootdown of Malaysia, airlines flight seventeen there are such a sheep cheap solution flight radar twenty, four free. Info on airline flights should be mandatory for all air defense worldwide mine. Don't know if you're going to convince the Iranian military that they should get their subscriptions to Flight Radar Twenty Four. To get. Eddie. Ministry. Use that the basis of whether it would be a good idea to shoot down that should be part of the actual Targeting computer system in for analyzing friend or foe, and that that sort of thing that probably a lot better than an eighty s box. So I. Yeah I. Think the the military needs something that's absolutely Stein, and if all else fails if not absolutely convinced, they're just gonNA fire anyway if they think it's justified. So These countries Even. I. Have to say I even the United States occasionally makes mistakes. Everyone has a conflict blue on blue AH, tanks I it just matter how sophisticated the gear is It's often down to the operators interpretation of IT and Mistake something people that WanNa take life this they have to. So it's not like you stunned. But Safa limitation of the equipment up. On the environment and that one a big part of it was the mess calibration setup of the of the whole the surface to air missile system to begin with one hundred, seven degree. Degrees off and the initialisation. So Anyway Yeah Yeah. I know. A lot of missiles zones If you WANNA, penetrate them depend on safe lanes so If you're not got equipment set up, right someone could be coming down safe lane and you might not. Say the right angle so. Them Bob's your uncle. Is. War. Speaking of bumper uncle Bob Bob. Tom seagraves feedback blom. Know Uncle Tom. Anyway. What does Tom I have to say? Hello PG crew. This is Tom from Columbia Missouri. I was just listening to. Episode Four thirty. Three. And a news story about Aeroflot. Got Me Thinking when when Captain Jeff, when when you mentioned how they filled the To fill the news story, they just rewrote a paragraph that said the same thing as the previous paragraph. I thought maybe I would. Give you guys a little bit inside baseball information. When it comes to the media for the last? Two and a half close to three years. Now, I have been working in television media. and. I'm currently a newscast director. And a local TV station and. We are the local affiliate for. ABC and Fox. Here in Columbia. I've learned a lot about how the news business works and when you were. Talking about that Aeroflot's story, and then there's been many mentions over the years over all the episodes about. How the media gets things wrong especially when it comes to aircraft identification yes you are correct and. A little inside baseball information, it really is up to at a television station up to the producer. What gets put on the air and I'm sure it's the same in the newspaper business or online news business for an editor also determines what goes live. So. how this works is in the TV, the producer will. decide he builds his show or her show. Decides what stories they're gonNa put where, and then it has to go right back content. Now, that's really for local news. When we're talking local news, they'll go in and write the stories. And the local reporters will work on those stories They'll be given an assignment at the beginning of their shift and they'll turn a story for whatever assignment they're giving, and I will say the the local reporters at least in the station I'm at. because we're a small to medium market. The reporters for the most part are? Fairly new fresh out of college a lot of times. It's their first or second job. They're trying to work hard to get to a larger market, and of course, make more money and they're very conscientious about what they put on the air. And they WANNA make sure they get it. Right. So there's a lot of research in the amount of time they're given sometimes not as much. if they have a tight deadline and deadlines, everyone lives and dies by those deadlines so. but now for National News as an affiliate of major networks. Most of that national news is just downloaded and used in spots where where they're looking to fill time. So you know they'll have a block of stories with local than the have a block stories and national. if there's more local news than they'll cut some of those national stories out, they'll always leave in the more important national stories. But. National Stories. Ninety percent of the time are written by someone in a far away place that we know nothing about and they're just. Rehashed on our network. Now. Sometimes if they're giving a story, that's a minute long. And they only need to fill thirty seconds. They'll go in and they'll rewrite the story and then they'll also. download video that goes with that story. Now, many times the producer won't know if the videos right or wrong it's what was given to him by the national and so that will get downloaded as well. So here's a perfect perfect example. Several months back. One of the producers was doing a story about United Airlines seven, thirty, seven Max, and it was specifically about United Airlines and the video that he was given the download for that story was a video of the United Airlines seven, eighty seven. So they're playing was wrong and I said to him before we went on the air I said, Hey, this is not the right airplane and he said, but it's United Airlines and I said Yeah but it's still not the right airplane. and. He goes is anyone going to know and I said well, I know. And I guarantee there will be a lot of people that will know as well and We were able to find fairly easily. We're able to find seven thirty, seven United Airlines video seven, thirty, seven Max United Airlines video we're able to put that in place. So. A Lotta Times the producer or the article writer or whoever just does not know. And You know there's no time to find an expert quote unquote expert. To try to. Verify something. I'd like to think that would it comes to the important details. and. I can attest to this when it comes to the important stories and the important details. they work really hard to verify to get it right at least in the newsroom that I work in. So I will say that. the other thing I wanted to let you guys know and this is This is all your fault. I think it's an extension of the syndrome. As, a newscast director as I'm directing newscasts, there's anywhere from four to eight of us. On headsets and we're all we're having an ongoing conversation throughout a newscast. and. It's usually more. So whoever the director is saying most of the stuff because we're giving commands to all the production people. During, a newscast and what needs to be done. And I've gotten to the point where when something is said on the headset or a story is read by an anchor. I've gotten to the point where I will say well, I think we got that one at least fifty percent rights. And now that has become a constant thing that is said on the headset by almost everyone. So thank you to the syndrome for that extension into my work life. The last thing I'll say is Liz if you ever want to be a television news producer come to Columbia Missouri, we will put you. In a position now, you'll have to buy vocationally because we can't lose you AP. Because without you, the show would not be what it is and we need to keep you there but you can do that from here. As easy as you do it from Toronto. So if you're ready. I'll get you a job as a news producer. Just let me know guys. Thanks for all you do. Really, really enjoy the show and you guys do a good job and Dana. I miss you buddy. Hopefully we'll see you soon. Talk to you guys later. All about the fifty percent. Hey if it's good enough for the news get enough. Exactly. How they know how to Google. Not. Google. Believe everything you see on the Internet Google is gives you know a but if you if you get like ten pitchers, they all look the same and they're all one aircraft that you think that's probably that's probably right. If you see people that are not pilots or aviation geeks as we are, they don't who cares you know on airplanes and airplane doesn't matter I mean. Really have no response. Oh. I did it's like. Doesn't matter. Nobody's GonNa know. He goes. Yeah I do and there are a lot of people out there. That will know that that's the wrong thing and they're gonNA be. Bitch and. They're just GONNA. Go. Idiots all. Yeah great feedback. Thank you Tom, and now you cannot have loose aury. She stays probably shouldn't extend that fifty percent to remark into my line of work though. About fifty percent it doesn't work in all professions in all professions it doesn't work so great in our. Airline pilot profession either only for podcasts. All right. Thanks, Tom. In Columbia. Missouri. Private pilot rich send us. Short audio feedback. -greeing say crew private pilot richer was fascinated listening to captain Jephson. Stevens monologues as they drove across the country. When you drove through death valley, I figured you went right pass. Furnace. Creek airport. I landed there many years ago in my piper Cherokee. It's zero six on the FAA identifier. The reason I went there is it's the lowest. Airport I've ever landed at. It is minus two hundred eleven feet. I was wondering what the lowest altitude airport you've ever landed at. I figured Miami Rick. Has the record for the highest altitude airport with his travels in south. America. But what is the lowest altitude airport you've ever landed at? Minus two hundred eleven feet. At Furnace Creek Airport. Death Valley California keep the blue side up private pilot rich out. Speaking of the Google, I did a Google search put in lowest airports in the world and found a table with a bunch of locations with their corresponding elevations. By the way it says Furnace Creek Airport. INYO. County. California of the code is. Delta Tango. Hotel. But it doesn't have the actual airport code. Because Lima seven or something like that. Anyway. and it has the elevation listed as minus two, hundred, eight or two hundred eight people. Oh but hey, what's three feet? and I was. Doing it well. Yeah. But we're talking airport elevations here. But. I'm a little suspect of some of the data in. Hang on a minute it fell. Flat three feet too late that could be quite significant. That is true but. Anyway to carry on. Yes. Thank you. So. So the Lowest Elevation Airport, you've landed at ya well first of all, on this list, the number one is. In Masada Israel and the Dead Sea at one, thousand, two, hundred, sixty, six feet below sea level really low, and the number two is the one that private pilot rich had landed at the Furnace Creek airport in the death. Valley. So I'm to myself. Which one? On there, but it's to the top. So the Pardon me. I said the one that I'm thinking of that I've landed at is not on there, but she's small to make the the list ocracoke. Okay and what is the allegation there for? Okay. Well, the one that I that comes to mind for me is the New Orleans International Airport and that is three point seven feet below. Sea. Level, which would be turban. I'm sorry above above. And but it's not even on on this list. Yeah, they're using a lot I, mean anything anything that's right on the coast is going to be pretty darn close to do other airports that are on the coast like Miami and Fort Lauderdale and others. But yeah, that's that's my lowest one apparently. Yep according to this list. What about? Amsterdam. Skip all. S Number Ten, I've never landed the really. Hot. I thought for sure you would have landed at skip at the slight hope skipping a jump from here. WHY WOULD I? I don't know. What else? Thanks Let me say this. List that are like less than ten feet 'cause. Did on in eastern north. Carolina. Very flat and very close to sea level. Yeah. So I my the lowest airport, I think that I've ever landed out as just a couple of feet above sea level but never any place below sea level. So I've never been listenable. Yeah. So that's that's what we have to say about that private pilot rich but hey, pretty good for For you to be at the number two. On this list in the world to. Halt I mean, why is it coat furnace creek? It's very hot. It's because you feel like you're in a furnace. It really did. It's really I'm just thinking like it's elevation is raw the negated by the temperature yeah. When you working out Field runs filled elevations density. Density. Oh, yeah, it's not a the the the density altitude is. Quite well. Speaking. To someone coming out with as I blended around. But yeah. Okay quickly let's say we have a few minutes how To seven minutes. Okay. Then we have long enough to hear audio feedback from Vernon trion greetings, APD crew. This is Vernon trion. And I've said before that old controllers never die they just lose their radar contact. Well. At least you think I need to get a life. I've long thought stories of how controllers can use the phonetic alphabet to tell a story. Such as when talking to planes his numbers in with Romeo Juliet Hotel. Whiskey one could say, Hey, Romeo and Juliet. How about after work we meet at the hotel and put down some whiskey together. Well. Here's my phonetic alphabet story of the crew during the covid nineteen times. The pack is led by an Alpha type guy who singing voices. So grand when he enters the room, everyone stands up in Tears Bravo. His name is Charlie. I think his middle name is Jeff. And Dreams of being Delta Airlines pilot. His voice is so rich has been known to stand at the Rim of the Grand Canyon. North South or West rim. And built out tunes in his tenor voice just because he loves to hear the wait for it echo. then. There's Dana. This taking a break from the crew right now and I don't blame you for doing that Dana. In the evenings and Julie. Are Taking Foxtrot lessons. During the day he's working on his golf swing. Meanwhile Miami is holed up in a hotel with this coloring book somewhere in India. And then there's Juliet who's putting down. Of Beer somewhere in Lima Peru. Half a world away waiting for the guide meet the guy with rickets. Then there's main man. Mike. who celebrates his birthday November along with his twin brother Oscar. Incidentally. His birthday is also the same month. They're planning outing with their papa to celebrate their birthdays in Quebec. A skydiver named Romeo has enticed Dr Staff and Liz to meet him somewhere in the Sierra. Mountains to take tango lessons from A. Laid off airline Captain Who's wearing his uniform. Then, there's victor retired fi and former air traffic controller who's met up with captain nick to drink whiskey and one the favourite watering holes that you've recently heard about. Because he wanted to learn how to tell all pilots stories like nick does. But. Alas when he needed to go to the bathroom, L L was in there. So he had to use the one downstairs fell down the stairs and needed and you guessed it an x ray on his ingenuity. And which time Nixed stated that he knew that the Yankee could not hold his liquor. Victor was so embarrassed that he went to live with Zulu people hasn't been heard from since. So my wonderful APGA friends, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I. Hope it gave you a chuck alert to and I wish you all could be airborne soon. This is Vernon trion retired CFI and former traffic controller in Fort Morgan Colorado. Keep up the good work in these trying times you all. Over and out. Bravo very nice. In here. To See, elise years of trading put away. Very, very well done, and of course, his his signature music in the background when he's doing is recording which he knows that I expect that so. Anyway. Great. Great Job Vernon. Thank you very much. Just quickly I think we can knock out the last two here. My go a little bit long but we're close. Stu. Rights in from Edmonton Canada at a great Uber flight home this evening after meeting friends for dinner got into the Uber and the heavily accented gentleman and I were exchanging pleasantries I asked him how his day was going etc, and then he told me that he was bored because he's a pilot can't fly right now which mmediately attributed to the domestic and international furlough of cruise. But no uber pilot tells me he flies the seven forty seven for Emirates and can't get a Canadian license because he can't speak. English. Very well. So after three glasses of my favorite Mullebeck, I, assumed my head was foggy and asked him you know how does that work when the Standard Aviation Languages English? Apparently, he his co-pilot to talk to ATC. By now my head is somewhat clearing and asked pile of how long it had been since he had last been in the SIM and maintaining currency etc, and what else he was type rated on. What he amine, he says all the Boeing I love the Boeing and then I asked him what he thought of hand fly versus automation and what he least liked about his airlines standard operating procedures, etcetera. The conversation didn't go very well when he dropped me off. I said Dude, you know eventually you're going to get caught out if someone asks you why you would maintain to fifty NAS below thousand feet in your Uber Right. Silence? Anyway. To all those Uber pilots out there. We salute you for making my ride home much more. More entertaining than I could have possibly imagined. Should I give him a five star rating. Efforts. Yes not really. He says I need. MIAMI. RIX number next time I took a cab. Love the show guys much uber love from Scottish Stewart in Canada. And he he sent a included a a photo that he took I can't believe it's already been three years. Now he says, Hey, Captain Jaffa we met. At at L. Three years ago this week still one of the coolest things I've done he says, I don't know that can't be right and there's a picture of the two of us and to you pitcher. Chose you how. Seven forty flying the seven, forty, seven forever and. Do they have a lot of seven four? I don't think. So that's the first. Vaccine in classes. Great friends of the show Steven Ivy he recently driver. Yeah. I'm sure there are some uber driver pilots there they are. Just not this. Not This guy no he. Stu New enough way more than. Your average person about aviation and knew this guy was blowing smoke up is A Scottish guilt. Never going to skirt but the column kilt. All right and then finally I know we're right at three hours but we're GONNA. Keep going. Because I, want to make sure that we get this in from Connie. Sir. Good. Connie is conic checking in from California She's part the northern California jeers. I was just thinking back to this time last year at Oshkosh it was my first visit air venture and it was such a fun experience to see everybody at the live show next to the AP RV my how things have changed in a year I hope everyone is weathering this crazy time. Okay. I'm currently working on projects from home and keeping up with this podcast and others go out on local hikes. Miami Rick it's nice to hear. You're back on the show I started listening to ABC around episode two hundred not too long before you made your initial departure, your experience and perspective is appreciated and your time away has only enhanced this I was listening to the episode of Airplane Geeks that you on a few weeks about a weeks ago talking about air cargo and I really enjoyed it as an aviation enthusiast. I especially admire the grandeur and utility of very large aircraft including cargo and transport types. I think it's awesome that you flew not just the seven, forty seven but the dream lifter I am fascinated by the unique features of this and other specialty transport planes like the Airbus Beluga. The aerospace lines, Super Guppy, the at L. Dash Ninety, eight carver, and others. This. Is Me speaking an aside I think I've never heard of an at L. Dash Ninety eight car air. So I looked it up on wikipedia and included a little photo. Floated in one of those, have you yeah when I was a kid. British. British F aries. Seven. Car in the front you the from and you drive your car in, and then you sit in the back as a passenger. My Dad got me to I. THINK WOULD TO AMSTERDAM SOMEWHERE And you take your car with you. Douglas DC four bays. Ferry. So unpressurised and at L. Stance easy to aviation traders I guess limited. Capacity of generally twenty two passengers, rear cabin and five cars loaded up in the front I think Yeah and it looks like as a Captain Nick said, it looks very much like that big giant Hump of a seven, forty seven in the front. So. Yeah. I'm thinking that's what's neat. Never I've seen nor heard of that thing. Anyway Let's see Nick I feel like there is potential for a plane tail or two out of this topic, the history and development of some of these more peculiar airframes and interesting cargo related tales. Perhaps, Rick has suggestions I was interested to hear the about the J. J. L. D., eight with a load of cattle going down a few episodes back I found a brief mention of that story on the Internet a while back, but I couldn't find it again when I went to look for it. Later, what an odd and tragic occurrence I've included a picture of myself in front of a mini guppy I came across a few years ago at the Tillamook air, museum or Oregon. As well as a picture of us from our twenty nineteen. You all stay. Well, stay safe and I know we'll meet again. Some. Sunny Day. Connie. And a great photo of of all of us in front of the. ABC RV. Party centralism have referred to it. I think Glenn Taylor was on. The. Oh, uncontrolled airspace podcast. Not Too long ago, and he was talking about the Party Central RV. Last year. Anyway. All right that is it just a few minutes past our what we shoot for a three hour shows but that's okay. I'm glad we were able to get all the feedback feedback knocked out. 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