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I'm reading Aaronson executive producer of the PBS series frontline. And you're listening to the frontline dispatch this time, we continue our rebroadcast of living with murder. The frontline dispatch is made possible by the Abrahams foundation journalism initiative committed to excellence. If you haven't listened to the previous episode in the series. We hope you'll do. So now at the end of that episode reporter Samantha Brown was in conversation with Kemp asong Stor campus. What's known as juvenile lifer? Convicted of murder as a teen and sentenced to life in prison. But now he may be given a second chance Samantha's mother survived a violent crime committed by juvenile lifer. Who is also given a second chance as Samantha says she in campus earn unlikely. Up now in collaboration with the public radio website. Transcend daughter we bring you the second part of living with murder. A caution. This program contains descriptions violence, and may not be suitable for some listeners. Here's Samantha Brown. By June, two thousand seventeen Kemp asong stern. I had been talking for six months at the age of fifteen he and a co defendant were arrested for the murder of Andrew price campus has been in prison since then for thirty years. He was scheduled to go before a judge at the end of July to find out if his mandatory life without parole sentence would be reduced. I find myself in a precarious position in these conversations with campus over twenty years ago. My mother was the victim of violent crime the one you've heard about her attacker was Reginald McFadden a juvenile lifer out on parole. When McFadden was given a second chance he attacked my mother and murdered others at the time. I testified in front of a Senate Judiciary hearing in Harrisburg to make it more difficult for inmates to be given second chances now campus and thousands of others like him people who were sentenced to mandatory life without parole before they turned eighteen may be given just that. Campus is in a precarious situation to if things go his way, he could be set free on parole something he never thought was possible. If things don't go his way, he could remain in prison for much longer or for the rest of his life. I asked him what he thinks it will be like to go into Philadelphia for his resentencing hearing. Will it be the first time you're out in a van and driving and going into Philly in a long time? Kemba two thousand twelve everybody. Tell you this. And you haven't seen the full years, maybe decades, and you try and do the city and you see and people stand on corners waiting buses crossing the street kids with book bags and women carrying shopping bags pushing strollers, you know, it's just wow life. Never assumes. He's going home. And with good reason, he's guilty of a brutal first degree murder. It happened when campus and his codefendant Damian Brohm had been recruited to sell crack cocaine and Philadelphia with a drug gang called the shower posse. They were put in fortified houses and sold drugs through mail slots for hours on end campus made things worse by pocketing some of the drug money. He should have turned in after talking for a couple of months. I finally asked campus about the murder. You mean act the graphic of? No, I don't even mean the graphics of it. I just mean even. I guess I'm hoping that you'll tell me about that day. And what happened that you and Damian? Thought. That killing Andrew was what you needed to do. Campus begins to tell me, but it's obvious. It's not something. He likes to explain what I have to explain we don't then that would make everything else that I've been Sean explain I was too. Explain this part as well. But I just the more I'll go back to the Mon mom pulse by put doing. But I remember that. The damien. We win house together. We will hungry that dates campus Damian wanted out there were tired of not getting paid and not getting fed, but after stealing some of the drug money, they were afraid this was after all violent drug gang. They became paranoid campus said they began to think they might have to quote kill their way out and Joe came on that day. What makes it so hard to talk about this is because of? Who he was? No in hindsight. Was nothing like. You know, the rest of the dogs as have one minute last wasn't his fall. You didn't bring the food. I don't think he knew maybe he was told not to bring us. I don't know. But it wasn't didn't deserve. What happened? Thank you for juicy secures goodbyes. When Kemp is called me back before we continued. I asked how are you feel in campus? How is it for you to talk about this? It's difficult. I'm still thinking about it. You know, Angels' family eagle is you know, I think about it. Think about those folks I never thought, you know, I gotta be considered. I don't know how what caused the family. And I know that if I heard Reginald McFadden talking about what he did to my mom, I think it would send me through the roof. You know, I get it. I get it campus. And so even though campus describe to me what happened out of respect for the prices. I will tell you the rest of the crime. Kemba said at the height of their desperation and hunger and Joe price walked into the crack house with no food in hand. And no plan to bring them food anytime soon. Campus and Damian suspicion and anger escalated. They argued with Andro eventually it turned physical and then violent police records confirm. They strangled Andro with a wire tree cutter and stabbed him multiple times with what campus called Rambo knife. The boys then wrap seventeen year old Andro prices body in plastic and put him in the trunk of his car campus, Damian were arrested ten days later. The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that at the time of his death. And Joe had been missing from home for nineteen months when they got the news of Anjos murder. His family was heartbroken aero price. Andrew's father was so full of anguish. He almost didn't attend. His son's funeral a little over a year, later campus and Damien were tried for the crime. Kemp asong Stor Damian Brome, remember them. Well, Jack McMahon was the prosecutor who tried the case against Kempson Damian. I walked in there with that previous knowledge of what the case was all about. And then seeing this really to children sitting in there. You know, it had some effect on me. I mean, you know, and and you felt sorry for everybody involved in this case when you didn't feel sorry for the guys brought him down here and put him in that situation. But they weren't part of the case McMahon offered campus Damian a deal to plead guilty to third degree murder a likely sentence of ten to twenty years. The hope was the boys would give up information about the shower posse gang and in exchange. Avoid a mandatory life sentence campus said when the offer was made he couldn't fathom spending ten years of his life in prison, and so against the advice of their lawyers and their parents campus, Damian. Didn't take the deal they pled not guilty and opted to go to trial. I remember leaving that courtroom and look into those young men going, man. This is a waste. This is a real tragedy. A dead kid and two kids that are basically lives are thrown away. And it was just a. This ad moment at the time. Kemp asong Stor in deemed broom were sixteen and like most of the growing number of juvenile lifers, Pennsylvania, they were black and neither had any prior offenses. Death by incarceration, that's how campus and many others like him across the country. See the sentence you've been given sentenced to die in prison until that is the recent supreme court rulings that call mandatory life without parole sentences for juveniles cruel and unusual punishment rulings which you science to show that adults and brains aren't fully developed rulings, which require that juvenile lifers have the opportunity to show they have changed and restore their hope for life outside of prison. But these rulings have very large very different implications for victims for Bobby jam risk who's pregnant sister was murdered by her fifteen year old boyfriend over twenty years ago. No amount of transformation is enough whatever their crime, Liz, you can't just as miss their crime and say well that was twenty years ago, and they've changed and he's been a model prisoner, and he got his GED or whatever that doesn't change the fact that there are people they shouldn't be in society, regardless of whatever their record is in prison or whatever they've done since then they should be locked up. Bradley bridge has been a public defender in Philadelphia since nineteen Eighty-three his office represents hundreds of the juvenile lifers. Currently coming up for resentencing he sees things differently. This group of people although promised to be able to die in prison and having no particular reason to better themselves have people have gone on and gotten degrees. The misconducts draw. Yep. They are very very stable part of the prison, which is really interesting. I think it says something about humanity in a positive way beyond behavior. There's remorse which is something that I'm interested in. How do you know, if your client is remorseful? You look at the rise us see how they respond, and then you form an assessment the same way, you form an assessment about anybody in day to day life about whether they're telling you the truth. This population is actually generally quite remorseful deep googly almo- worked for the Pennsylvania department of corrections for over thirty five years before he retired. He was the superintendent of greater for prison where campuses now he has a more skeptical view. Here's what he says about many of the prisoners who showed deep regret for what they've done. Those are what the in makes us to refer to as the professional remorse. The guy. Is who express remorse for their sins? But of course, the inmates don't believe it. But so many of them I think really don't care much about what the impact of their actions have on other people. The professional remorse tres. Yeah. It's their job to express remorse for the criminal of the world. They're the apologists. I spoke to Dave Digal YoM. Oh, you know, who he is. Right. Yeah. He said that there's this term professional remorse. Have you heard that? Professional wash. I've never heard that term. But I I I know that means. Sarid? But that's the first time I've ever heard that term. What do you think it means? I guess would mean. They did they remorse is something manufacture something. That's rehearsed. You know what? I mean. Sam dislike and I've heard this over the years person while they're in prison. Extend decades change in lives. You know, stay out of trouble took advantage every program and every opportunity to better themselves, everything Jad one part of the punishment for us ac- supposed to accomplish which is rehabilitation and they might get before the parole. And then they might hear something like you're just trying to be nebula to you're trying to finish your way out of the situation. Yeah. I think there are a lot of people out here. Think that's the case that thank criminals are cons. Right, right. And I'm saying thing that's just sometimes people don't want you to do. They just want you to die. Sit down. And not tally. I know a guy only has one misconduct. Forty one years. I mean, that's who seeking. For forty one years. How do you know who actually is feeling remorse, and and verses people who just know what to say I've talked to people fan. I mean, one on one was sitting there talking and they start crying. No one out. Just knee. And now. You know? Go and city. Especially who knows what they're in prison for to have that formidable moment that we mall. They. Can't give them anything. I don't handle money out. My son nearly states. Not knowing that someone truly feels remorse trusting that? Someone really has changed. How do we know for sure how do we know? I wanted to talk with someone who I knew would understand the moral and practical balance of second chances. Do you still believe in second chances? I do. Yeah. I do not not really says something because I can say without any fear of contradiction that a decision I made that resulted in a second chance for a particular individual destroyed my political career. You might remember Mark single from part one of this series. He was the Lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania back in the early nineties on his way to be governor. He sat on the board of pardons that reviewed reginal mcfadden's application for commutation McFadden is the man who brutally attacked my mother murdered others. Mark single was the head of the board at the time. He along with three other members voted, yes. On mcfadden's application. I mean, I find myself in this position right now as I'm talking to campus. I hear I hear I hear all the work. He's done. I I mean this man has read about neuroscience. He wants to understand why he did what he did at fifteen and he's spent the last thirty years going over the first fifteen years of his life. And when I hear him speak. I hear remorse, and it moves me. And and yet. I think would I have felt the same way. If I talked to Reginald McFadden before he was released would I have heard from him what I'm hearing From Compass? How do you know the difference? How do you know? And I'm curious as a person who is in a position to grant mercy to give second chances and as a person who had a second chance. Go horribly wrong. What would you say to the people who are now in that position? First of all, I think it's important to acknowledge that we're not suckers, we're not chumps have to understand that as a public official. You have a duty to the people that sent you there to really develop your radar. So that you don't get taken in. It is easy to get seduced by somebody telling you good story. I think you have to develop that radar. Quickly. So that you can tell the difference. Now having said that it is astounding. And it is moving when you really do come across a case where somebody clearly has earned some consideration. I mean once they pass the crap test once once you're convinced that there are some merit here. We ought to be at least willing to hear them out. And listen and not just you know, narrow our eyes or walk around the bodies that are lost a society. We've got to open our eyes a little bit and be a little bit more compassionate. We have the anger and revenge down cold. Everybody's got that. But the mercy and the charity we need to develop that piece in equal amount. Hi, this is renewed again frontline's executive producer here at frontline. We've long been known for our documentary foams, but some stories like this one are just meant to be told an audio whatever the form though, we remain committed to the sort of tough fair and deeply reported journalism. You've come to expect from us to support the dispatch. Please go to our website, frontline, dispatch dot org and click donate. Thanks so much. If you've I'll you enjoy the stories or uring from the frontline dispatch, you should check out reveal reveals an innovative podcast brought to you by the center for investigative reporting NPR X frontline CR of collaborated on multiple important investigations over the years recently reveal launched a two part series called case cleared, it examines how police departments throughout the country handle sexual assault cases, you can find reveal on itunes radio public or anywhere. You get your podcast. Learn more at reveal news dot org. No. So can I ask you a question? I get what you're saying that that this that you aren't your worst act, but I imagine. You know, when a court says, you're guilty when you feel you're guilty when you know, you're guilty, which is what I hear you saying. And you're sent to prison for life. It must take a long time to begin to realize that there's the option that you are more than that. Guilty by outside. The courts means something different than when you when you finally save yourself, man, I'm guilty. But he say out loud. That's when it settled inch on a level. Do you? Remember that moment for you. Thank what started it, really. Statement. I read. Angels' fun. Campus was fifteen when he read a statement from aero price in the Philadelphia Inquirer. A statement. Aero prices said he doesn't remember ever making. The price narrow price Angeles funded fit. I feel rage at these two boys for the Justice innocent Anshu. It was just. Threat that he felt no. Deep down you'll innocent. You know on new wasn't. I mean, it's so it's so profound to me that this little missive comes to you from the father of of the boy that you killed. I just I just wonder you have one minute left. The most important thing. Phil. It was Shane. A real change. I felt so ashamed. Is this this man? Sanders. I felt shame. Thanks for using securi-. 'cause I. Most of the families that are coming before us now know that okay? There's a high or good likelihood that these individuals are going to get paroled. Jennifer storm is Pennsylvania's victim advocate. It's been her job. The job of her office to reach out to the hundreds of crime victims in the state to inform them about the supreme court decisions and to walk them through the realities and possible outcomes of the resentencing if there's one lesson to be learned about crime victims is that every victim experiences their experience uniquely, and it's really hard to paint a broad brush over in a tire population. When there's five hundred seventeen cases, and there are multiple victims and family members engage in these cases, and they're all experiencing differently. We have some people in the family who are at the very early stages of dealing with grief. We have some who are standing up in court saying release the offender, I forgive him. Andrew price campus victim came from a large Jamaican family. I went to see to Shiro price his youngest sibling about ten days before the resentencing, although she was only five or six at the time. She remembers when Andrew went missing, I know the my parents were concerned they were of course, looking for him in asking my other older siblings. If they had seen him in heard from him in such but it was like he was he vanished. They didn't know where he was until they found out. He had passed one of the things I'm aware of having lived through what happened to my mom is the way that trauma stays with a family, and I think it changes, and I think it's different for each individual family member. But I'm wondering how the trauma of what happened to Andro and the grief how that how that stayed in your family, and maybe how you witnessed it impacting the member. Of your family from what I've observed. I think that they kinda just soup rest the feelings. And and every time it's brought up it kind of rehashes those emotions, and then they suppress them again because they've gotten so used to just not really dealing with overall pain. And what about you how how has your relationship to it changed time if at all, and where do you stand with upcoming resentencing where I stand with the case, I think from reading about campus that if he gets a second chance, I would not oppose to it. And I wouldn't be said about it. I I I hope that he would take the second chance to make the best with his life and rectify, you know, the missed the the huge mistake that he may he took a life, and then life is no longer here never comes back. And I hope I just really hope that he is who he betrays itself. To be and I will eat usually do think. So because he had no idea knowing that he was going to be have a chance to be released. That's generous of you. It's honest. I'm just being honest. And so how how is your dad now? He's okay. It's just it's still a loss. And I think that even almost thirty years later that it's just tough still. Yeah. And especially from all this coming back up again. I just see the hurt. In the three days leading up to the resentencing campus. And I talk every day. I want to sleep last night. I think more. I was thinking about Mr. price. What he's gonna be their campus. And Mr. price have never been in the same room before Mr. price didn't attend the trial back in the eighties. I didn't think it was possible for this percents in him to become more important than when I heard he was coming. What? This is about. It's. I never knew how I would approach. I mean, physically you know, what I put head down hit a hand out for to handshake. At the I would have, you know, there's no annual is no script for this. Because this kind of thing ain't supposed to happen. I tried to interview Mr. price for the story. We spoke on the phone if you times, he was always, warm and polite. We even said a date for me to go see him in Texas. But ultimately he cancelled and then texted saying, I'm not trying to ignore you. But I don't want to relive this tragic incident. Again, it happens every time I talk about it. I can't wait for this to be over. It's Sunday July twenty third large group of supporters have gathered in downtown Philadelphia near the courthouse where campuses resentencing will happen. The next day. They're singing when lifers marching home again these are supporters of campus in people want to see an end to life without parole sentences for juveniles the local public radio station reported that there were a couple hundred people there many wearing orange t shirts that read either leave in a right to. Option. Campuses mother. Is there an uncle several aunts and cousins, they've come from Chicago, North Carolina, New York, even his grandmother from Trinidad is in town after gathering in a church the crowd takes to the streets. Marching with banners that read end death by incarceration and transformation. Not retribution. During. Too early. The next day and watched as it filled to capacity, and then overcapacity Chesley lights is an assistant district attorney and represented the case against campus at three sentencing, I think the process in the courtroom is particularly difficult because there's been a festive atmosphere on the defense side. And I understand why. Because you know, the defendant's family has waited for this day. And so it's jubilant, but it's it's such a I don't know I've had victims families who just felt it made all the more difficult because for them. This was a very somber occasion. And again, it made them feel like the whole focus was on the defendant and not on the actual crime many of the crimes that are coming up for resentencing. Now, you would look at and say these are brutal crimes, that's campuses lawyer, Doug, FOX, he and the firm he were. For have represented campus pro Bono since two thousand two they along with a mitigation specialist spent hundreds of hours preparing for the resentencing. So I fully understand. Victim's perspective on this. And so will the judges that? But that's not the issue. The issue is as this court said where were the juvenile offenders or they reprobate corrupt at this point or or they to be given a second chance because they were juvenile offenders. By the time Errol and tissue price arrived at the courtroom people had to be asked to move. So there was room for them near the front from what I could tell the prices were the only two not counting the DA SAF who accompanied them in who were there to represent Andro. Beside the courts to Naga for the Pennsylvania department of corrections does not allow these hearings to be recorded. But I witnessed it all from the front row of the jury box, which is where they put members of the press. If you had been there, you would have felt the hush in the courtroom and heard the shackles on campus hands and feet as he shuffled in. You would have seen Mr. price behind dark glasses fidgeting and folded over on himself determined to be there, but clearly uncomfortable then listened to the mitigating circumstances of campus. Childhood how his mom worked a lot. And he was left on his own that he witnessed violence inside and outside his home that he was depressed and tried to take his own life at fourteen you would have heard campuses mother describing him as the bridge in their family maintaining relationships with both the older and younger generations from inside prison, witnessed campuses aunt searching for the prices from the stance aying, we are linked. But by something that is not good. So on behalf of my family. We are sorry. And then heard former and current prison staff praise campus and his. Accomplishments? A college professor statement that campus is in prison, but he's not a prison. You would have watched as Shiro an arrow price each took the stand to shura talking about how difficult this was on her family how it divided her siblings and destroyed her parents marriage. You would have heard Mr. price say there's a victim here. That's never going to get released from where he is he's dead. And describe how his family blamed him for not going out and finding Joe when he ran away that he was supposed to fix it. But he couldn't that there's been no peace since this happened. How Andrew's mother died year and a half ago, Mr. price found some of Anjos clothes in her closet. You'd hear him say that he missed his wife that he missed knowing who is son would have been that. He missed his sons art. You would have watched campus rise when his time came and heard him asked the judge if he could turn and face the prices, which he did you would have heard him tell Mr. price with those words quoted in the newspaper meant to him the good things he saw Andro even under the terrible circumstances. They were in. You would have heard Kemp assay how sorry he was over an over as campus spoke. You would have seen Mr. price take off his dark glasses and looked directly at campus. And you would have heard to Shiro price say back to campus. I believe you. And finally the district attorney reminding everyone about the brutal details of the murder the strangling. The stabbing that Andrews body was left in the trunk of his car that will campus childhood may have been hard. It wasn't as hard as some other juvenile lifers that he came from a large and loving family that he was placed in gifted classes, she would point out problems and campuses prison record a prison riot. He was caught up in when he was seventeen accusations of salting guards in his twenty's trouble adjusting issues, she said that shouldn't be ignored issues. Campuses. Lawyer would dispute. And when all the arguments had been Mead. You would've watched as the judge got up to leave the courtroom. You would have sat waiting suspended in that room with Kemp Assange or in the price family with the feelings of inconsolable grief and loss and tragedy. And when the judge returned ten minutes later, you would have held your breath as resentenced Kemp. Asong Stor to thirty years to life because campus has already served thirty years. The new sentence makes them eligible to go in front of the parole board immediately his fate now in their hands. If all goes in his favor campus could be home by Christmas. When I spoke with tissue replace the next day. She said she was relieved it was over about a week later. She asked for campuses address, greater furred. She said she wanted to send him a letter. I continued to reach out to Mr. price talking about this isn't an easier for him. When I spoke to campus after his resentencing, he said that although the day felt like a right of passage. It also made him realize how nothing he can do we'll ever fix things really. As with most things that happened in court, not everyone was pleased with the outcome. If it had been up to Chesley light, see the district attorney. She says she would have delayed campuses possibility for parole by five more years. She stands on the side of caution. What we're trying to look at within these records. Are who are these people? Really? Who are they when they don't think it matters. You know in terms of it doesn't matter for getting out. Are you concerned that he'll refund not in a violent way? Absolutely not now. I do not think that he will Jennifer storm. Pennsylvania's victim advocate says of the current mood in Pennsylvania, and this juvenile lifer. Kind of climate it is release release release. I think in some instances, maybe more people than should be released in for Bobby Jim risk outcomes. Like campuses point to a possible future for the man who murdered her fifteen year old sister, and our unborn baby. I always tell people I have to wrap my head around the fact that depending on what happens when he has his hearing, I could literally be walking through a shopping mall and see the person that murdered my sister and her baby, you know, in the store by jeans like nothing ever happened. As of October two thousand seventeen one hundred sixty five juvenile lifers and Pennsylvania have been resentenced Eighty-one have been released, and according to the Pennsylvania department of corrections. No juvenile lifer released since reginal McFadden has re-offended. In case, you're wondering, Damian broom campuses co-defendant went before judge about a month after chemist it. He too got a reduced sentence of thirty years to life making him immediately. Eligible to go before the parole board the man who murdered Bobby Gemma's because pregnant sister was resentenced to thirty five years to life. He'll be eligible for parole in ten years. Campus, and I have been talking for nearly a year. Now, we've recorded over thirty five hours of our conversations with join from like this. Definitely people that I need. This kinda comes issue. Might need to be they themselves need to be a part of a conversation like this. But even if you weren't record this was just a personal conversation between you and night, and nobody knows about. But you it's it's it's. To me the to me too. Get ready to cut us. Okay. How about if we talk Friday morning? We're. Okay. All right. Take it easy to. The colour has enough. As of this recording campus is still at greater for prison. He's gone in front of the parole board any thinks it went. Well, he should receive their written decision any day now. I thought a lot about trust in my conversations with campus in how I can trust him. But I realize at this point that's not a question for campus. It's up to me. Campus, and I continue to talk to each other nearly every week. And we'll keep talking. This story was written reported by Samantha Brown. It was produced by Samantha in. Jay Allison in collaboration with the public radio website, transom dot org for PBS's frontline. The story was produced by Sophie mcken, Sophie is our series producer, Jamie York is our senior producer in our creative director and senior editor is j Allison j also does our audio mixing Andrew Mets is our managing editor Lauren as kin LA is our series story editor Amy gains, associate producer in our special counsel. Is Dale Cohen. Lisa plune helped with the fact checking our interns for the first season. Julia press and Dina Kleiner, thanks to Atlantic public media woods hole. Massachusetts into Melissa Allison music. 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