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The Daily Beans

08:05 min | 8 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Kyle Cheney Kyle welcome to the show. Thanks for speaking with me today. Thanks so much for having me. So you just pendant incredible piece with tons of just so much invested reporting that you and Natasha Bertrand did and politico on a subject very close to our hearts number two in the Ontario, any book by Timothy Snyder about supporting our institutions, and this is about trump's denigration of the intelligence community and how Joe Biden advisors allies in. Congress, are already thinking about quote what a heavy lift it will be to restore morale inside the agency's legitimacy on Capitol Hill and public trust in the intelligence communities. Leadership Should Biden defeat trump in November and this is according to more than a dozen people close to the campaign that you spoke to. Can you tell us what you found? Sure. Will, let you you laid it out perfectly I think what we heard repeatedly was just as systemic a demoralization of the intelligence community the based on not just trump's distant drift which we illustrated pretty nicely with his request during a highly classified briefing to cut it short and get a milkshake. which was kind of the emblematic I guess in that world of his disinterest in in taking it seriously. And also. But he's more of outright actual hostility to the intelligence agencies that we've seen manifest over and over again partly worn out of his frustration with the Russia investigation into how he viewed that as a personal attack and applied that to the entire intelligence community writ large So what we heard essentially was. That's the hill that the next president is going to have to climb. If Joe Biden if he wins is GONNA have to approach it with this knowledge that this the intelligence community as a whole has just taken daily attack daily. Beating from the President you know in terms of. The relationship between the White House and intelligence community, and that has led to other consequences. And concerns about politicization all that. Yeah. I mean you and I could sit here and swap stories about carelessness carelessness with which this administration and trump in particular has paid to classified information and intelligence. We could talk about the Kislyak meeting in the Oval Office. When he said you know what I know you guys interfered but so do we or here's a little bit of Israeli intelligence for you to take home with you or during the mar-a-lago when he was you know. Having an against Syria with the bombs at showing it I think it was president she and there's all these people around with phone lights or the every time he's at the resolute desk with like an unsecure locked bag of intelligence I. Mean it's just the it's endless and but yeah, you're right considering the actual attacks like forthright attacks on the intelligence community that have been happening since especially since that intelligence community assessment came out in two thousand seventeen about Russian interference but you talked to quite a few people here. I Know General Hayden who I love by the way he says a couple of people at the Odeon. I are going to have to go absolutely and then he also said something about hassle having to go. As. Just kind of early steps on on rebuilding this trust. Yeah. I. Think that that's one of the questions we've had a lot of times historically some of these intelligence community leaders they're sort of a political they're sort of the people who carry over from administration to ministration. They have terms sometimes that extend beyond one AD presidential ministration into another but here I think we're hearing a lot about. The need for a clean slate. The fact that a lot of anyone who have been in the trump orbit is essentially tainted by it, and that doesn't necessarily come come with the legitimacy. The bipartisan legitimacy that that previous intelligence have had that may not be true of everyone in the trump intelligence community But as you heard, we heard from sources who identified people who just got too. Deep into it at this point to come out of it on the other side like people who could also serve under a Joe Biden, for example. I don't know that I could see anybody currently and that's the real shame about the intelligence community is because normally you can bring people along who have been serving in these positions. But I think everyone with any kind of integrity or who has providing oversight into this administration has been ousted leaving a lot of either sycophants or people who just aren't who are just kind of trying to keep their heads down like you said like Gina Hospital or Chris Wray. Who are just trying to make it through the I don't think that they still could could. Be justified in a bind administration and you talk talk to people like, Gerstl. And Lincoln who all who all concur right what were there? Any recommendations? Yes. So actually the most interesting stuff I found was what we what was described to us as a targeted callback that that Joe by one of his first actions if he if he's president-elect is To do a targeted callback essentially means find all the people who left because they couldn't take working for trump final the people who were ousted or supplanted by political appointees. And get bring back and the name I heard over and over again, people on Capitol. Hill was was sue Gordon who served as Dan coaches number two and was viewed as someone who would take on that role and coats left until she was supplanted by a trump's more politically. Allied Picks instead? And so she left and. She's she's not necessarily I think she's more emblematic of what I think people on the hill would like see you don't necessarily need to be her they like her. But even like her like her who is viewed again is a bipartisan. Someone who had the respect of the intelligence community but also lawmakers. It's only WanNa, see in those roles now did you run across any push backer or maybe issues where people because we've been like okay. Here's the dream cabinet right and what we're bringing back all these super partisan and and people who weren't intending to be partisan but ended up being partisan. But you know we're like, maybe could cause a problem that could. Keep. diff- divisiveness going. But like what about some people? Like for example, Lieutenant Colonel now Colonel Vindication or Fiona Hill or Masha Ivanovich von people who aren't they? You know aren't partisan but trump made them. Partisan does that still kinda put the stink of partisanship on them you know that's a question. We've kind of confronted a bit and I think you know At least what we're hearing is the is no people like like vitamin. Yes. He became sort of a a trump boogeyman but but until that moment till, the moment of impeachment was not was that never viewed that way and a lot of people. Fit that you know that bill who would not be viewed as partisan but four tangling with trump during impeachment I don't think those people are inherently radioactive. One interesting in a person to me is is someone like an Adam Schiff who has literally become the trump arch-enemy the arch rival trump is fashioned him that way and you know maybe in his historically, you could see someone like him becoming deny but would he be confirmable at this point? Even I mean I guess in a fifty one votes senate potentially but but someone like him who may have wanted threat history been confirmable a tougher slog now Right or even if you had an easy slog of it, see if we flip the Senate is at the right thing to do or do we bring up somebody who's a longtime career prosecutor who nobody really knows but is an incredible. Person with amazing experience right and I think Joe Biden's whole ethos has been about you know healing and sort of trying to repair the repair the damage of the last few years, and so putting ins or even people who are perceived to be a partisan warriors might cut against that. So that's that would be sort of in the vein of appointing someone with bipartisan..

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"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

02:47 min | 8 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"And so I'm wondering if you know if he you know and this is just speculation and you like shooting the breeze but like he could be the cutout, which means rudy is sloppy in the Kremlin is not you know? Yeah I mean who knows it's there are a lot of actors in in. Ukraine and Russia who don't WanNa Joe Biden presidency because you know Joe Biden has actually proven to be pretty tough on corruption in Ukraine. He fired a prosecutor who the international community agreed with not tough enough on Ukraine. was not tough enough on corruption in Ukraine. So I think you know there are a lot of people when I was speaking to someone who dealt energy issues in Ukraine earlier today and he emphasized there are a lot of people in the space who are worried about. Potential extradition to the United States and potential corruption charges if Biden is elected president so they have a lot to lose. There are a lot of actors in that in that space that are not that are trying everything they can do not. To keep from being elected yeah I kind of brings back all the memories of Ivanovich is testimony about what to corruption she was trying to stop and then having to be pulled out and she's going to go through some things during the whole impeachment trial. Right? Right. It's very similar and you know she was. There a she made enemies there because she was tough on corruption and she was trying to read it out in people. Saw Her people there saw her as a meddler and they didn't like it and Giuliani in particular was was instrumental not whisper campaign as well. So there's been this pretty wholesale effort to get people out of there that might be strong on corruption, which is why it's very interesting to see this projection happening with will know Joe Biden. Is actually the corrupt were the ones that are saving Ukraine it's not a realistic a picture of what's happening at all. No, and you know I, there's going to be more I'm sure between now and election day. This is there. I think this is the timeframe they've sort of all been waiting for. Absolutely I mean, there's a reason why this is coming out now and The laptop has apparently been in their possession as for well over a year and it's it's all just a bit at too. Coincidental. Well thank you so much everyone. You can see the piece in politico national security correspondent Natasha Bertrand thanks for speaking with me today I appreciate it. Yeah. I. Think you everybody stick around. We're back with another interview for politico stay with us. Everybody at ag for the daily beans in this podcast is brought to you by the New Yorker. I've been a huge fan of the new. Yorker ever since I was a kid for the longest time decades now I remember picking up my first copy being drawn by art and the design and the colors, and of course, the cartoons and we're so proud to have their support..

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The Daily Beans

04:30 min | 8 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Twenty First Two thousand twenty, today, six, Russian Gru, officers are indicted by former members of the Komi Five. The Mute Button on the debate Mike's is ago the Supreme Court denies the Republicans request to not count votes in Pennsylvania Bill Bar in the Department of Justice say trump can lie about raping people as long as he's the president and more than fifty former intelligence officials signed a letter saying that Hunter Biden story is Russian disinformation and former RNC chair Michael Steele endorses Biden. For President, I'm your host ag and with me today as Dana Goldberg Loom. Hey Dana. How are you today I am? Such a funny question. Every time I'm getting by we have less than two weeks. Her teen days I think if my math is correct, I was a phys ed major but I still think I have that down I'm doing well though I mean all things considered compared to some I'm doing just fine. How are you I'm okay but yeah, I every time I ask that now I think back to when I asked Mary trump how she was doing. was. Like. People, need to stop asking me that. I decided I'm not going to like ask people anymore I'm just gonNa be like, Hey, what's good that's the question hey, what's good I like it I'm going to switch steal that from you. because I'm a hack yeah. No I I appreciate it much more than than when people ask me how I'm doing because you know like you said I want the real story or you know God So. Did today cool show today I'm going to be speaking with two of the top reporters for Congress and National Security Politico respectively Kyle Cheney and Natasha Bertrand and I'll speak with kyle about how Joe Biden can build back the reservoir of trust in the intelligence community after it's been relentlessly attacked and dismantled by trump. And I'll speak with Natasha Bertrand about how fifty intelligence experts have signed onto a letter saying the Hunter Biden story is Russian disinformation everybody called me crazy but. Fifty top intelligence experts agree So we're GONNA talk to Natasha about that. That's a fun interview I'm GonNa Start, a new book club this week on the Andrew Weissmann book called where law ends inside the Muller Investigation that will come out on Saturdays for patrons and speaking of the MSW Book Club you and I Dana just wrapped the Mary trump series with the hour long episode with Mary where she answers are patron questions we were just talking about that. So generous with their time and funny and poignant, and just we get. To see the best of Mary during these interviews so I do hope that you got to see that as a patron if you're not pay the extra money, it's just worth it. She somehow is the only sane. One of that family. Yep I know if you're a patron, you also get the video that Dana was unaware. I could've killed. You could've killed you I text ag and I said Hey I think we should use the video just so we can see each other and apparently that was a green light to release the video. And you're lucky I had pants on I got up during one part of it and it was like, that's right. You know these girls can see me and my my running shorts in my pajama in my pajama shorts I didn't know your entire patron was going to see it. Hey. Fortunately. The same week it happened Jeffrey toobin had to go and like you know grudge tug during zoom call I mean Jesus I mean. I understand people need to take care of themselves and listen we're asking you to work in your master. Pretoria M- like we're most people take care of that however. I don't see any women. You know what I mean. Their lunch meat at the Deli counter I can't I'm so I just guys. Just. reminded. Patton oswalt are all the ham. Lord. But yeah. So if you're a patron, you get that you get to see the video and it's three bucks a month to get the premium feed that get you access to not just the Mary Trump Book Club in the upcoming Andrew Weissmann but the archive of all of our book clubs I think we've done seven now. And you add free episodes of this show and you get to the night before and the weekly newsletter that has all my personal research notes and citations. So if he can't swing it right now because trump has destroyed the economy, we do have patrons who are donating one your memberships for thirty six. So to sign up for beyond to be on the list to receive one of those daily beans pod dot, com. We do have a lot of news to get to. So take.

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"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

04:09 min | 10 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Next good news. I hear the. Tiny ORC Gosh thank you so much. That's very sweet I. Really appreciate that I am so happy and I will keep talking about her and you'll keep hearing from her mouth directly All right next up from Kerry pernet she her Canadians finally lost our federal minister finance after scandal lies in an overall lack of integrity. Good riddance. He was a super rich guy helping the super rich, but guess what we got our first. Okay we got. We got our first female minister of Finance today. Her name is Christie. A Free Lind. Along with your veep nominee, Kamala Harris I have more hope for dismantling the patriarchy, fuck? Yes. So do I let's keep it coming. Keep supporting women candidates everywhere Yes. Agreed and Komi probably don't wear elect more women shirt on twitter. You did he do that? Yes, and Hillary Hillary fucking Clinton posted retweeted which just a picture of her leaning back in a chair uh-huh. Look on her face like really like that your shirt today. Okay. Saul too much. It's all too much. Let's see next up from X. too shy to share. The name. Pronoun, she her Hello I recently became a patron and did a thing in my community. So I thought I'd let to be in Queens no beans queens know about both near the beginning of quarantine I, sorted out all the clothes I wanted to give away into a corner of my room and did some research on where I could possibly donate them since goodwill in the Salvation Army usually throw out what can't be sold, which a good chunk of my stuff fell into that category I did nothing with my research or this corner for months because my response to stress I've created for myself is to ignore it. So with you. A few weeks ago my roommate brought up going to one of those parking lot donation boxes which usually seem abandoned to drop off Oliver extra clothes I guess I was feeling productive day because I out to a company wearable collections to see if they would come to my home to do a pickup they said yes. But only if I had twenty thirty gallon trash bags full, they are New York City based and I am across the Hudson in Jersey I did not have twenty thirty. Bags. WORTH OF CLOTHES IN MY corner. Here's what happened over the next of the course of a week reached out to my neighbors on next door to gauge interest coordinated with the company where collections on a pickup date made a bazillion posts on next door to increase awareness and reached out to other local governments to see if they would promote the pick up date on social media and one of them did net result there were thirteen bags and. The one local government promoted the pickup date is interested in coordinating with collections to do a drive. There wasn't a lot of time to promote the pickup date. So I'm super happy with the other folks who committed to get their shit together in such a short amount of time, and I keep telling myself I want to get involved in my community never do. So this is a rare moment of follow through and I'm very proud of myself for it. Thank you for providing an outlet to share and All that you do every day to keep the people informed. Yes. Go. You agree illusion yes. seriously. That is so rad. Totally deserve giving yourself. Props for the follow through to follow through can be super fucking hired and big ups for doing that in for doing something. Good. With that follow through. Amazing. Good job good job. All right. Well. I believe it's for a good news story. So everyone, thank you so much for sending them in again had two dailies, dot com, send him in. Of course tomorrow we will have REP Katie Hill and we're going to talk to. Amy Career. Oh and then we're going to have our. Daily beans meet and greet not tomorrow. But Saturday. Eleven am for Patrons Pacific Time and noon Pacific time for for the public in the theme is Brunch. Branch and I'm excited to do it. So everyone thank you so much. Any final thoughts? Jordan I do not other than thank you for your patience with the sounds of the background I love Y'all and Cuckoo those you. All right everybody enjoy. The DNC tonight it's going to be incredible.

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The Daily Beans

04:13 min | 10 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"He didn't for his testimony before Ron, Johnson a few weeks ago So House Foreign Affairs Chairman Eliot Engel. He has now subpoenaed the State Department for Copies of documents that have been provided Johnson a grassley. And he saying that the State Department is still ignoring that request even amid this appeared on. Your was just. Looking at that subpoena from angle and now Kenna who's part of this. You say in the piece here that she was a crucial. Outreach from trump allies seeking to discredit marie. Ivanovich tell us about about that. Yes. She has acted kind of a gatekeeper for Pompeo and she. told the Senate panel during her confirmation hearing this month for her potential confirmation to be the ambassador to Peru that she actually found a lot of the outreach from. Trump allies about discrediting the former ambassador to Ukraine, hurry of it as deeply disturbing and so she was actually pretty helpful to the Democrats 'cause in that case, she did not seem to think that this was a legitimate operation. So to speak by Giuliani about the president's. who were trying to influence policy in Ukraine the US so But that you know she obviously is under pressure now because she wants this ambassadorship to Peru and by alienating certain prominent Republicans on the Senate, she could jeopardize that plump position. So. I think that there's definitely regardless of what the State Department says here there might be some political considerations at play with regard to getting these documents over to the Senate as quickly as possible. and. So finally you know there's been a couple of weird centralization of power here trump giving bar the keys to the declassification kingdom, for example, and then bar giving himself the authority to approve he he personally to approve any investigation into a presidential candidate. But that doesn't extend to the Senate right that's only criminal investigations in the Department of Justice. So this feels like a work around. Yeah I think that's a good way to put it. The US Congressional investigations obviously are really not subject any limitation short of what the agencies that they're trying. To get information from, of course, the witnesses want to withhold, but this is also part of the reason why Democrats an Intel officials frankly have been sounding the alarm on efforts by foreign adversaries such as Russia to try to launder their information through the congressional committees. Particularly, the probe that Ron Johnson has been carrying out with regard to Joe Biden's relationships in Ukraine. This is why there are so many Democrats who are saying you are essentially aiding Russian operation to interfere in our election and because there are really no limits again on what? The Senate can do with regard to investigating on these issues. That data pretty much much free to go forward, issue his report and keep doing this frankly until the eve of the election if he wants to yeah I wonder if he can claim speech or debate clause. You, know two. I'm just doing my job as a senator and you know it's it's in the face of the recent counterintelligence report. That came out holy moly everyone checkout, Natasha Trans- threat on that by the way. It seems it just seems super subversive and really fishy particularly when you you know you point out the dates and timelines and who's requesting and. That the that the memo was. Unclassified sensitive but unclassified is that how it was categorized? Yes sensitive but unclassified that's correct Okay. All right. Well, thank you so much for helping US understand this. We'll keep following the story and everybody. National Security correspondent for politico. Natasha Bertrand. Thanks for being here today. Thanks so much everybody stick around. We're GONNA have quick break, and then the good news blocks stay with us. Hey, daily beans listeners as ag in this.

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"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

06:51 min | 10 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Hey everybody. Welcome back. So a top aide to Secretary Mike Pompeo has ordered senior State Department officials to compile additional documents for two Republican senators according to a memo obtained by politico and joining us today to discuss that memo is national security correspondent for politico and one of the reporters that broke the story Natasha Bertrand Natasha thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Yeah. So tell me about this memo when was it sent and what did it say? Yes, the memo was dated August Seventeenth, which was Monday, and it's in response to a July twenty eighth request from Senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley who are conducting investigations in. chewed origins of the Russia investigation and Joe Biden, and his relationship with the Ukrainians, and it essentially asked officials across the State Department from a wide array of bureaus to compile specific materials that are related to those investigations, and this is interesting because it just shows the links that the State Department is willing to go to to accommodate these requests for these investigations while the same State Department of course stonewalled the house during its impeachment inquiry wouldn't provide any witnesses or documents. So what this shows is that this is the state. Department is complying with kind of a laundry list of requests from these GOP led investigations without really any parameters. And they are just complying with what the senators want to basically fish for as part of their pros. I here's a weird question for you and this is speculative. So just everyone understand. Where I'm coming from here but the trump administration seems to retroactively create paperwork in order to justify shit that they've already done and I'm wondering. If you know there's been accusations and letters about Ron Johnson collecting information from you like maybe Durkan's or somebody else Ukrainian pro back pro Russian Ukrainians. To to investigate Barack, Obama and Biden. And I was wondering do you think that this is maybe a like a Cya memo like to legitimize the? Information he's trying to get into you know into his investigation I don't know it seems weird like what a weird time. Yeah. So it's unclear. These task irs are called Casper's aren't uncommon day typically are sent out you know for any kind of congressional request as long as the State Department teams legitimate essentially. But what's unusual about this one is that the State Department appears to have put their own parameters on it. So the Chuck Grassley, Ron Johnson request which I also obtained. It doesn't include dates. It just says give us every campaign on the subjects which include you know the Obama administration dealings with Ukrainians and the FBI's dealings with for the Russia investigation et Cetera. But the state, department kind of took it upon themselves to include parameters to make it cut off at December twenty seventeen. Would essentially shield the president from having anything released to Congress that might implicate. Kind of wrongdoing related to Ukraine Another thing is that the. State, department kind of self imposed deadline of August twenty eighth, which is really a short turnaround for the volume of documents that they're looking for, and it's also right at the cutoff for when Ron Johnson is trying to complete his investigation. So you see a kind of accommodation by the State Department to this probe that certainly democratic aides on the hill that we spoke to about this find really unusual. Yeah. What's the significance of it being the having the deadline? Be You know right around the time that he's supposed to release information on this investigation is there's do like what do you think is the significance of that date? Yes. So we that's when Ron Johnson wants to release his report. About an IT's actually kind of uncleared what he's doing because he essentially has two twin investigations that are ongoing one into hurricane and he has another into Joe, Biden Hunter Biden, and Ukraine issue. But what's bizarre is that Lindsey Graham has been conducting his own investigation crossfire hurricane. So there's no real sense of how Ron Johnson's probe is going to factor into that and why he feels to conduct this kind of dual probe So it's his report though is. A ostensibly going to be about Joe, Biden and Ukrainians and things that he's been tweeting about kind of on tweet rampage for the last couple of weeks. And he wants to get that out by the end of August. So the State Department. Complying with these requests by that date is pretty telling in that you know he didn't give them that deadline they just happen to. Be Willing to accommodate us. Yeah, it seems a little fishy But now has has have Johnson or Grassley replied to any of this. Yeah. So Johnson. Did Not Return request for comment but Chuck Grassley spokesperson said that you know this is welcomed that they've been asking for information for quite a while now and that any information the State Department can give them is helpful to them But other than that they haven't really said anything the State Department back to us and said, you know this is part of regular processes between Congress and the state. Department and we do these kinds of things all the. Time but of course, there's a clear double standard there. Right I mean with regard to how they treated House Democrats and how they're treating Senate. Republicans. There is obviously much more of a willingness to cooperate with. Republicans. There ever was with the Democrats yet, and that's exactly what I was going to ask is how this sort of dovetails with that report that we saw a couple of days ago about complaints from Democrats that they were being ignored and in the Senate as well that like. Documents were being requested and and the Democrats weren't even being told yes, and they feel like they're completely out of the loop on certain issues and especially when it comes to things that you know the FBI handing over that, the State Department has handing over they feel like there is this pattern where they're being caught out with things in the State Department is a particularly. For them agree just example because again, the department refused to provide any documents or witnesses without a subpoena during the impeachment investigation and whereas the state this time around is making even witnesses available without the needs for subpoenas including George Ken who needed a subpoena in order to testify during impeachment but.

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The Daily Beans

03:43 min | 10 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"It's so well established just in general on both sides of the aisle to like to complain about it like that. Like so many times you're restricted in what you can wear in terms of messaging at school at jobs. You know that that's like a thing that I feel social contract. Wise. You know I think it's. I. Think it can be bullshit and a lot of ways. But just in terms of there being precedent for it, he knows in everybody knows that there is so much precedent for that for not being able to wear fucking light campaign things while you're working at a job at first of other private company. That's not a new thing I think the problem is that they allow blm and L. Lbj t q plus pride apparel they do allow that but they sure but they don't allow swastikas. Yeah Right. But it's like one one is in election two wins like election based also, which I think is. There's different lines I guess obviously, but there's no hatch act for private employs or anything you know obviously but I feel like one is I mean, that's really him. What he's really doing is outing himself as the party that's anti black matter because black lives matter should be something that could be you know upheld and promoted by everybody regardless of political party he's making it so it's a campaign thing and I. Totally see why corporation wouldn't be comfortable with. Their people campaigning for a certain candidates when they're on the job I 'cause I think there is a difference there. That's legitimate. True. I mean. But they also banned blue lives matter and all is matter shit. Look. I concur with and as. Jordan I. Think your point is this is a private company. They can do. You don't have First Amendment Protection Rights while you're at work at a private company I mean, yeah. My opinions are also just totally skewed because like I said I do see I see black lives matters a legitimate thing that again can be like in should be upheld by everybody and I see blue lives matter as a total just like twisting. Of that argument in a very antagonistic messaging whereas black lives matter is I don't see as it being antagonistic but yeah. So my opinions on this are totally just because of my my own very biased interpretations of all of those things and I'm just going to defend them no matter what they do know it's fine and despite your biased interpretations, this is a private company and they can make their own fucking rules. And and here he is illegally interfering in private business boycotted calling for a and goodyear while his suv the beast they call it has a big fat giant juicy goodyear tires on it like I air force one Scott Goodyear tires on it like. It's just it's just it's just the dumbest thing. and. and. It's funny. He's like. Oh you want to be a canceled culture will we will to then you can't complain about it anymore the hypocrite to. The racism, the hypocrisy, the childishness, the illegality of interfering in private business. It's just absolutely astounding and and but of course part you know. Here, we are in this day and age when we get thirteen scandals day and we have to sort of pick and choose which ones are. In your face illegal or just mildly. You know. So that's where we are unfortunately in the state of our nation. So we will all take a bath in the in the DNC speeches tonight and cleanse ourselves and everything will be fine and speaking of that speaking of cleansing ourselves and taking a bath. Awesome things we have are good news, block a little bit later Jordan, join me back for that and then right after this message though I'm GonNa. Talk with Natasha Bertrand she's national security reporter at Politico about an interesting memo that that politico obtained. From a State Department aid to.

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The Daily Beans

02:00 min | 10 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"AG. How are you Jordan House things? Things are great. Yeah. Relatively it's always relative. We always say. Forever. Relative. Yeah for relatives How are you? I'm good. It's hot out today but I feel like it's just being amped up by the humidity that we're also failing. One hundred percent. and. We have a good show. We have Natasha Bertrand. She's GonNa come on and talk about this state. Department memo internal memo politico got ahold of although it was considered a sensitive but. Not classified anyway long story she'll be here to talk about that. And of course, we'll have the good news. If you want to submit your good news, how to daily beans pod, dot com and click contact and just let good news. You can also submit your quarantine confessions there and any corrections you have. And Big Show tomorrow former representative Katie Hill will be with us and she's GonNa. Talk Talk About her forthcoming book I love her. A huge admirer of hers, and of course, aimee Carrero beyond with us and we'll have a few other discussions always the good news block as well and don't forget our livestream meet-and-greet. This week has been moved. It is not on Friday on Saturday and the famous brunch. We're GONNA start at eleven am Pacific. Time for patrons an open it up to the public at noon. So I hope you join us and if you accidentally pop on Friday I'll probably be there for a few minutes to. Direct you to Saturday with those, you know those. Airplane flashlights with the long orange sticks on them. But my only have plastic lightsabres where to get those. Do they have exclusive procurement access to those things. I've never seen anyone have them other people at airports you're so right the airport supply store I guess. Who? But we do have a lot of news to.

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08:17 min | 11 months ago

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"No IT IS GONNA be. Honey Dick. They can it's GonNa be okay. Just calm down. So Ohio Jim Jordan, stopping grounds federal agents. They've arrested Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder giving him the most redundant name, and four others on Tuesday as part of a sixty million dollar, racketeering and bribery investigation. Do you think that the do you think the Republicans just elected him speaker of the House because his name? Yeah. I mean. You know he has to you. Know I want to not have sympathy for him, but as a victim of trite jokes, I do, 'cause you know his constantly getting that Shit's all the maybe. Maybe on the ballot. They thought it was A. They thought it was a multiple choice. Question. Who is speaker of the house? If Bob, householder or John, we'll. The householder is the speaker of the House. So that's how he got his speakership. Yeah, I had to do like a triple take when I read this story just to double check I wasn't like being an idiot or something in. His last name is indeed householder of the house. Yeah, the same every time I. Do a story was Sheldon Whitehouse in it I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, like. How did the White House respond to White House? What's happening? Yeah, so we're like Political Freudian slip or something, but no, that is name Larry Householder. So Larry I'll just call them that key muscle straight Larry and four others on Tuesday a yet. They yet. They got arrested, so the criminal complaint was unsealed today Tuesday and it describes what happened as householders, enterprise and. And he ended also describes states that he and his associates had been secretly using money from they take money from an energy company to expand their own political prowess, and give money to themselves, and on top of that cover up all of the criminal things that are engaging in US attorney David Villers, he said this is likely the largest bribery money laundering scheme ever perpetrated. Perpetrated against the people of the state of Ohio. Ever he said ever- that's insane. He went on to say this. Was Bribery Plain and simple? This was a quid pro quo. This was paid to play and so what they're. What householder Larry is accused of is creating this enterprise called generation now Ohio, and it would collect large large sums of money for him and his associates. And it was to advocate for this bailouts of nuclear plants, and what is happening there with some of the money was being spent on Larry's own political campaign as well as his friends campaigns The they went onto the complaint states the millions paid into the entity were akin to bags of cash unlike campaign or PAC contributions they were not regulated, not reported not subject to public scrutiny, and the enterprise freely spent the bribe payments to further the enterprises political interests and to enrich themselves so. Just completely opening themselves up to people buy them outs, and without any sort of you know, give a shit at all. They were also pocketing the money in whichever ways that they. They really felt like I'm reminded if three things here. I'm thinking of bag man. By motto when Spiro Agnew did that to get government contracts his buddies, I'm thinking of. With the nuclear power plants if this was connected to the Middle East Marshall Plan with Flynn and cops in texting on the day S. we talked about this in the in Muller. She wrote quite a bit especially in episode six. Are that that long ago and then of course I think of Michael Cohen and his bribe that he gave someone which was a plastic bag full of some cash in a boxing glove member that the those days. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah I mean it's unfortunately something that you know I can. Only imagine is going on pretty much constantly people opening up their wallets in the back door, the back door wallets to people. Flooding them, we know with some money for certain policy responses, but it's just fucking amazing that it's happening to householder for multiple reasons number one him being the speaker of the house in Ohio. It this makes it such a high profile story clearly, and it's not just him also charged a where the four lobbyists and Republican operatives. The names are matthew. Bordj he's former. Ohio Republican Party chair consultant is as name B., O. R. G. S. Dino. borjas borgias maybe yeah I. Don't know there I. go saying it all Frenchie in. Then Neil Yeah in this in this country that is bordered by well I guess there's French Canadians, but anyways I err on the side of France for some reason I did take French I really did I really got an air on the side of German. That's why I called him. Mueller, for the I, fucking three weeks of our so true, that is true. Thank you that makes me feel better. The other guy one of the other guys, Neil, Clarke he's founder of Grant Street consultants and he told by. He was called by USA Today once one of the best connected lobbyists in Columbus. That's never a good sign. WHAT A WEIRD SHIRT! That's like a weird. Likely, we had the. speedway and its tagline was the fastest five eighths. West! That reminds me. The most well-connected lobbyists in Columbus. Yeah totally. Like? I. We! Where where are you from originally? I'm from outside of Akron. Little Township called Willis brings a states. Talmadge Ohio Nice, very cool. Yeah, we'll then, but so you know you this. I didn't even think about that that this is this. Is Your home state that all the Shit's going down and right now I feel like. Yeah one of the best connected lobbyists in Columbus I. Being described as best connected is only a good thing. If if you're talking about like a like a, what are those chainlink paper. Lobbyists. Okay. Yeah, but you're right. I mean this guy. This guy, this guy householder, he has massive influence on policy-making in decisions in Ohio, because he's the speaker of the fucking house. This is huge. definitely yeah. Another one of the guys is co-founder of the Oxley Group in Columbus, and then another old Oxley Group. Are you familiar. They're the best darn group in Columbus. I. Feel like I need to apologize to our Columbus listeners now I absolutely love Columbus Ohio. Please just, but you know what I mean totally. USA Today once called them the most disconnected group in Columbus. Jeffrey Long. Jeffrey Long Longstreth. He's an advisor to householder Larry and then yet generation Ohio that's that nonprofit that the federal prosecutors are linking to both Jeffrey, Longstreth and Larry Householder and generation now. Ohio is facing racketeering charges. So there's just a whole bunch of shit going down there, and it's lovely to see such a massive take of a person that clearly has a lot of influence in Ohio and I hope.

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The Daily Beans

05:55 min | 11 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Pay Everybody welcome back. It is time for news from under the radar and joining me today as Jordan Coburn, how are you? Are you feeling better than yesterday? I am Yes I'm done tearing up. Which is the best? Which is the best? You're living in trump times when the best is. You're done throwing up, yes? I'm glad that you're feeling better. So that's good We've got a couple of headlines today I'll kick it off with court news. Do Do do do. Ships at sea. We have Gordon Reporting News The Supreme Court on Monday has denied a request by House Democrats to accelerate the time line of their remaining court battles over the subpoenas for trump's tax returns from czars Deutsche Bank and capital one. We've been following those Scottish decisions forever and you know. The the bid by the lawmakers came in response to. To their to their seven two ruling that basically said trump. You don't have total immunity but you can't the house. You can't have these things you have to go down to the lower court and figure out what you can have and what you can't have you got to you. Guys got to figure it out and under regular Supreme Court procedure the ruling. Twenty five delay it would take until August third to get down to the lower court, and the Democrats wanted to avoid that, so they asked the justices for an expedited schedule, but the conservative majority court rejected that request Monday in an unsigned order, so there's no opinion but so to. Meyer said she would have granted it earlier this month. They issued a blockbuster split decision handed a win to New York state prosecutors seeking trump's tax returns. We know that that's Cy Vance in the Manhattan Da, but dealt this setback to the Democrats in the house. Who wanted the same shit? So, while the justices settled some of the major legal issues embedded in the disputes, they left most of it to the lower courts to resolve and on Friday as we know the Supreme Court agreed expedite the Vance stuff. They said yeah go ahead, and they had the hearing the District Court and I think there's a like by the twenty four. trump's new bullshit reasons or do, and then I think Vance has until August or the twenty seventh or something to file his motion to dismiss and then August third for trump's reply. August tenth for Trump's reply August fourteenth for Vance's replied his reply, so it's a very expedited schedule so the the court allowed that, but they're not allowing it in the case. They're not allowing it for the house, so they basically that means the the three Democratic House lead. We'll have to wait nearly a month from the date of the court's decision before they can proceed to the lower courts. And in other court news. Lawyers for Mike Flynn. His crazy crazy lawyers, urgent appeals court Monday to immediately shut down the lingering fight over whether judge. Sullivan Must Dismiss the Criminal Case Against Flynn quote. The District Court is hijacked and extended a criminal prosecution for almost three months for its own purpose That's what Flynn's attorneys wrote in a filing with the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. Last month the panel voted two to one to reject Sullivan's position and issue a rare order by approving the writ of Mandela's from Flynn requiring Sullivan to dismiss the case, but Sullivan appointed to the Federal Bench by Clinton asked for the full appeals court to to review the ruling on Bach Right and Flynn's legal team. This Monday said. Sullivan has no standing to request. Such a review quote to allow Judge Sullivan to delay generate litigation against a criminal defendant is unconstitutional first of all for their fucking side to say to to say that they don't like people. Delaying Shit in the courts is hilarious. They're fucking first and foremost tactic always. And that's what Sydney Powell wrote. And she said this action diminishes the status of the Federal Judiciary is independent bulwark for the rule of law. Be Buzzword bus word suck the courts Dick I love trump and I added that part at the end. But. Here's the thing even if Sullivan is somehow deemed to lack standing, which he doesn't lack standing. Any active DC circuit court judge can request a poll of the full court, even if no litigant Sullivan in this case seeks. The right to do so or even is determined to not have standing to do so. You know Andrew Torres from opening arguments. How to little debate about this? He said I bet Sullivan's going to file to have reheard on bank and I said I bet one of the other judges on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals is going to poll the court to have heard on Bach and seven of the judges are. Democrats or liberals? I shouldn't say Democrats and we used to not care about that, but you know what I would have gone our way. And he was right, he won that bet, and so he you know that that Sullivan is the one who did it and now, Sydney Powell is saying he doesn't have standing to do that which he does and even if he didn't fucking Merrick Garland could be like I want to pull the entire DC circuit court of appeals, and they would all say yeah, we WANNA rehear this shit because they disagree with what the Circuit Court did because what the court did was silly. And then they would have they. Would you know review the case on bunk, so she's just full of Shit. And I don't even know where she's where she's coming from on this, but it's so funny that they're like. I can't believe they're using these delay tactics. Oh my God! Yeah, they really. They really bank on People's limited memory. However, that is not something that a judge typically has quite the opposite. Upon the fucking kettle. Powell Sydney Powell. All Right? You have a story for US coming out of Ohio. What's going on? It's time to wait you know what? I think we should play the theme song. It's time for the fantasy indictment. Sweet..

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The Daily Beans

06:09 min | 11 months ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Mean if they're told that they're being used as tools of. Russian or Ukrainian propaganda? To interfere in the election, then all of their claims about the dossier, being improper foreign interference will just fall on deaf ears because they will essentially be doing the exact same thing. And the laundering term here, I just found fascinating to and I think that it kind of helps explain sort of what the utilization of Congress to get this disinformation into into the American public is about which you know when you launder money, you take illegal illegally gotten dollars. You spend it on some shit. You sell the Shit you get the money back. It's clean now and knots money laundering in a nutshell trump knows all about it, but when you're laundering sort of information what I think what they're trying to say here and correct me if I'm wrong. Is that you've got this? This really dirty Giuliani parnasse fraud guarantee whatever for Taj funded bullshit information, coming from Ukraine and pro pro Russian backed people in Ukraine into the United States. They used wikileaks before now. They're using Congress to make it legitimate that the laundering aspect of of this that we're seeing. Yeah, that's exactly the allegation that they're making because they know that. At this point. No one's GonNa take anything that folks like Dirk, catching Giuliani and all them seriously unless they're like fringe, far-right media outlets like one American news, which has given them a platform for all of this, so it's made its way into American. American, news outlet, but not a legitimate one and it hasn't picked up much traction in terms of you know actually substantiating allegations against Joe Biden so the way that they're kind of getting it into the bloodstream is through. This investigation is through Congress calling people to testify to give depositions about something so that they can release a report. You know a couple of weeks before the election that outlines alleged wrongdoing by the vice president and his son, in which kind of inserts doubt into the American consciousness about who Joe Biden really is, and so that you know in twenty sixteen. It was wikileaks. wikileaks and the press, and now they say it's Congress doing the dirty work. Yeah, and you have to wonder how this info is getting to Ron Johnson or or Congress in the in the first place, because then you gotta wonder about. Are they? Lobbyists, are they? Have they registered as a foreign agent on behalf of whoever's feeding the information? I mean it's. It's really there's just so much. This is the I mean. This is a second muller investigation potentially. Do you know what I mean? It's this huge. It's that big. Yeah, it's a great point I mean this is yet another example of. I, mean, we're just repeating the same thing from two thousand sixteen. It's slightly different, but it's the exact same playbook, and again like we haven't gotten any good answers from Republicans about what they've actually received from these people because Dirk for example has actually hired lobbyists to represent him to set up meetings and talks with people in the White House and on Capitol Hill so it's not even that they're using cut outs at this point, it seems to be direct contact. And direct information sharing so wh- whether we see what that actually looks like in any kind of report, their release that remains to be seen, but as for right now there's just really no transparency into the process whatsoever. Well, I suppose the silver lining here is that most people probably just ignore what Ron Johnson is doing anyway. So you, know I mean I. think that I. think that I I. I have a feeling that people's minds are sort of made up if you know what I mean. Yeah and this is not something that's picked up much traction as I mentioned before, and that's why Kinda. The Biden campaign has been so reluctant to address it. They don't want to inadvertently elevate the claims and rebutted everything, but they say it of return because they just think that the American people aren't paying attention to it anyway. I don't buy into it but at the same time there is this feeling that you have to expose it for what it is. which is a foreign operation to impact the election because these people. People in Ukraine they don't want to see someone who is necessarily tougher on corruption as Joe. Biden proved himself to be in the in the in the administration, become president of the United States on. So this is something that is is kind of a repeat of always on two thousand sixteen, but and the way that the Biden campaign now is dealing with it as trying to be a little bit more aggressive, especially given so many people at the top of the Biden Campaign dealt with this directly twenty sixteen people like Tony Blinken. who were in the administration having to confront this head on and scrambling now? They're trying to to really. Be caught off guard and nip in the bud. And speaking of that Joe you did a piece on Joe, Biden's new well, he came out pretty aggressively against foreign interference in our elections recently this week he did yeah, and this was actually. I'm told kind of the results of a lot of pressure by by outside advisers, informal visors and my people in his campaign team. who were like look? You know what if something were to happen in the waning days at the election in October Ukraine's released something? That's like a doctor tape or something edited. That's just like a November October whatever September even. Even surprise and the public doesn't understand that this is all been part of a concerted coordinated operation essentially it's it's just not tenable to leave it to the last minute to respond to this kind of thing, so that's why they're trying to build the groundwork and lay lay the groundwork to to show that this is something that's nefarious. been in the works really for about you know over a year now. Yeah, well, thank you so much for coming on and explaining this to us I. This is a massive story. congrats on the scoop and. I think that you know I mean. We've gone over all the points, so we just have to wait and see what happens. National Security correspondent for Politico Natasha Bertrand. Thanks for joining me today. Thanks for having me all right everybody. We'll be right back after this. Quick break, so stay with us. Everybody G here. Helping daily beans.

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02:47 min | 1 year ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"And joining me today, for the good news is Amanda Reader Amanda. How are you I'm doing okay, but I also have not stopped watching the news in a couple of days Yeah. I mean it's yeah, okay is the right word. It's Yeah, yeah, it's really it's really crazy out there. Yeah, and we're serving blackout Tuesday. We talked. About that earlier in the show. I'm only retweeting block voices on social media. I'm not. My voice I'm not putting my voice out there today. But. Just haven't been able to peel myself away from the news. However I am very heartened by. It seems like the coverage seems to be shifting a little bit in the in the beginning, they were just covering fires and looting, violence and riots, Shit and today it seems like they're really focusing on large huge peaceful marches, and and I am a pre. I'm appreciating that and also it's global. They're showing Britain. Like it's global and I'm loving that and I hope that that trend continues. A couple of quick good news stories for you before we get to our listeners news San Diego San Diego has ended its use of carotid restraint, which is basically you know a choke hold and that's just because of what's going on right now. In the country, the Minnesota Department of Human Rights has as charged the Minneapolis. Police Department with a civil rights violation, and they will be investigating the last decade of Minneapolis police actions. That's according to. Governor Tim Wall Smile. The FBI has finally opened an investigation into the death of Brianna. Taylor, that took a took far too long, but they have open that investigation. Six Atlanta cops have had arrest warrants issued for them for their treatment of. People during these protests and This is from this breaking just not too long ago that how does your committee has announced? They are going to hold bill bar accountable by introducing legislation to cut funding against his office by fifty million dollars, and they will be hearings with Department of Justice. Justice whistle blowers and former DOJ officials in the coming weeks now. Of course, the Republicans aren't going to pass that in the Senate, but we will. They'll have to vote no on it and. They're going to have hearings with Department of Justice Whistle Blower, so that's good and finally. this is great. Tiffany trump is participating in blackout Tuesday on Instagram. Tiffany. I.

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The Daily Beans

08:20 min | 1 year ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"All right everybody welcome back and welcome back. Former DC federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner Glen. How're you holding up I'm hanging in there. You know watching Donald Trump. Wipe is muddy feet on the constitution other than that. I'm fine. It's It's harrowing. And usually when the wrong in fuhrer breaks the law, you and I can sit and rattle off potential legal remedies you know, ask for documents. They'll refuse subpoenaed documents they refuse. Hold them in contempt. It goes to court. We litigated Skoda's for a couple of years but what he did last night shook us to our core, and I personally am too disoriented to attempt to think about legal remedies, which is why I have called you. Can you help me out with that? I can try unfortunately. I don't know that I have any good news because you know when you look at the Constitution and you look specifically at the bill of Rights Right the first ten amendments to the Constitution. It it doesn't really grant rights to the people. It's not a list of do's. It's not telling us. We need to go out in practice, religion, or speak freely or assemble or bear arms. It's a list of dolts right. It says that the government cannot do certain things they cannot establish a religion. The federal government cannot stop the people from freely exercising religion. The government cannot Abridge. That is mess with to use Beagle term our free speech. It cannot mess with our free. Free press it cannot mess with our right to peaceably assemble and petition basically or protests petition the government for a redress of grievances. You know it's a list of don't and so the question that we're now facing today is we saw Donald trump violate the first amendment. He did one of those don't something that is prohibited. He wanted to stroll from the White House across the street to Church. He has never attended to hold up a Bible. He has never read as. As a photo opportunity that he could then use as a campaign ad, and in order to accomplish that because the people were exercising their First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, he had apparently at the direction of his attorney general. Bill, bar. He had the people gassed. He had the people flashbang. He had the people assaulted. He had the people moved out of the way, so he could stroll across the street. That is a pure in arguable violation of the First Amendment what? What the heck do we do about it? The problem is when you assault somebody you walk up to somebody in the song in the street. You Punch him in the base. We can arrest you. We can charge you. We can haul you into court and the charge in DC would read something like you know on June second twenty twenty within the District of Columbia Mr Defendant Joe. Smith assaulted mister victim so and so by punching him in the face with a SPA. You can charge somebody with a crime. You can't charge somebody with violating the constitution I can't hall somebody into court as a former prosecutor, and charge them with violating the First Amendment by interfering with the People's right to peaceably assemble, so that's where we find ourselves. We see the president who has violated the Charter of our country, and he has violated the the sort of rules that govern how he is supposed to behave what he can do and what he can't do. And there's really nothing we can do about it. If the our elected officials that are supposed to be representing our interests will not stand up to him and deploy some kind of remedy like impeachment and removal so I you know I I think bill bar is probably smart enough to be telling the president. You know what don't worry so much about the constitution because there's nothing that can be done when you violate and that's that is where we find ourselves. And he put that out just hours later. The White House that he made. From that photo op. That was. Interesting and then of course Tom Cotton I, think it was Tom Cotton tweeted. Look at this brave man. What president has come out of the White House to go to church like? Like. Like we need to be praising him for those actions, but the Washington Post reported today that apparently White House officials asked DC the district of Columbia about taking over the local police department, and that's according to Mir, Miracle bouncers chief of staff. How does Posse comitatus in the insurrection act apply in the district of Columbia. We know how it applies to states. Yeah while because district of Columbia is not a state. It was chartered as a federal city. The basically keep the federal government up and running it I don't think the insurrection act necessarily applies which is why, or while Posse comitatus I, think would apply anywhere because the military is strictly prohibited from being deployed to enforce civilian laws and I. think that's going to apply in the district district of Columbia as well but I when I was really heartened to he. That Mariel bowser our mayor here. In Washington DC stood up on TV today and said let me be clear. We the Metropolitan Police Department the. You know the city law enforcement agency. Did Not participate in what you saw being done to. The citizens you know in order to allow the president to walk across the street to the Church and I. Think you know that was if not firing a shot across the bow? It was her wanting to be clear that what you saw was a violation of the constitution and the deprivation of the People's rights, and we belong enforcement. Arm of the DC city government had nothing to do with that, so we're starting to see some politicians and some police chiefs around the country. Push back. On the President I, mean I love that the chief of police of Houston I think. St tweeted or set it in a speech, and he said Look Mr President what you're saying is not productive. You're fanning the flames of do me a favor. Shut your mouth, and if we have more, you know. Police, chiefs and governors and mayors and city council members across the country begin to push back on the tyrant in a way that the Republican leadership in Congress won't. Maybe maybe we start to have an. An impact do do we know what force did? move the peaceful. Jude fired tear gas into the peaceful protesters. Did fire rubber bullets in there, do we? What force did that I reporting I saw was a US park police. They have you know having practiced for nearly a quarter of a century in DC, it is the strangest place when it comes to law enforcement because it really is parceled out. Among so many law enforcement agencies, and in thirty seconds I can probably ravel most of them off. It's like FBI ATF DA US Park police US Capitol police US secret. Service uniformed division US marshals service, US. Postal Police Amtrak police. US Metro Police Federal Protective Service it goes on and on and on and on Department of Veterans Affairs Police. There you go, we have some sodium Sonian police right? Hey! Dropped that painting. The highest the heist police. so it really is very strange. Byzantine jurisdiction when it comes to which law enforcement agency.

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The Daily Beans

09:03 min | 1 year ago

"natasha bertrand" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"You know they're goto playbook here but so now which Democratic lawmakers are reaching out for this. What Committee are they from? Yeah so it's really the house. Foreign Affairs Committee has been pushing hard on for the administration to release any information that they have that are related to the woven Mouhot Institute of biology which is the long name basically for the lab Dot Despite is you know is presumed body ministration to come out of And it's also been you know Senator Chris Murphy who is reading the Intelligence and saying look. We have not seen any evidence that this did comfortable. Labs a wise administration saying this weren't we focusing on the broader issue of trying to find the real origins of this and other Democrats who say like the Senate Intel Committee Mark Warner. Who says we really want any and all information that the administration has because we need to be able to analyze every piece of intelligence and hopefully get to the public and the long term as well So it's people it's lawmakers from from different areas and you know. I think when when we spoke to them what they all had in common. Was this idea that if you know if it did come from the. Us is kind of partly to blame for that because we were funding the lab for about six years So there were lack. Safety PRACTICES THERE. And if we were giving money to this lab you know even though there were states parman cables warning that it might be good idea You know it's really kind of counter productive for the US pointing fingers at this point But again a lot of Republicans that have will there be leaning into the Anti China's messaging because there's not a lot of positive things I can decide about this administration's response to the coconut off-break. Yeah true and you know. Of course the the dumb lawmakers are saying on you know on one hand we just need to see the intelligence. You say you have it. It's enormous. We need to see it because we need to know where to look and where to study and how to not have this be a problem again but also they're saying at the same time. Look China is not blameless here and I think that's an important aspect to the story that you that you include it because I knew when I spoke to Frankfurt Losey. He talked about a China trap that the Republicans could be setting for Democrats by saying you know if you're you're either you know if you're with China you're against us you're either with China or against China and there be no middle ground. So I think that's a very important aspect that they're saying you know look China's not blameless here but we just need the facts right and another thing that they emphasized that people. I've spoken to WHO HAVE SEEN INTELLIGENCE EMPHASIZES THATCH. There's no smoking gun that they've seen that would will out the lab theory either. There's nothing that they've seen one way or the other about a definitive answer as to the origins of this thing But but they see another darker agenda in the way that the administration has been really quick to point to Wuhan Just as a whole is really the origin of the outbreak. And of course as the web as in the lab as the epicenter of it. So so that's where they're coming from. Republicans who. We reached out to comment when we asked them whether they WANNA see the Intel the administration our show trump and POMPEO or touting about this lab theory they either didn't respond or declined to comment With the exception of Ram Paul who declined to divulge his conversations with administration but did say that he's ongoing talks. He's been satisfied by the answers that they've given him But but yeah so so far. The only pressure really seeing this is found from the dams. And it's really unlikely that they're going to get anything tangible because it seems as though Mike Pompeo is starting to slow. We kind of walk away from the definitive Characterization that he gave. Abc News About. You know how this is kind of at this point. There's all of the evidence points to the theory. He is kind of leaving open the possibility that maybe he's just analyzing the intelligence differently from other people so the bottom line is that we probably will never actually know where this thing came from. And it'll probably just be what Dr Patchy told National Geographic. Which is it can't came from a bad. It was normal to human transmission whether it was allowed in a lab or a wet market wild. So that's what we're going to focus our attention and and you know you talk about pompeo. Muddying the water. What was it he said today to reporters was it re- though he was asked whether it was productive to claim that there was direct evidence to support the theory if the adults right now is merely circumstantial and he said look one. Man's direct is another man's circumstantial. So that's kind of the new alternative facts I think. Yeah that's not real. That's not that's precisely like we have entire our entire justice system is set up to make that not the case clearly doesn't make sense and I think he was asked a last week during another interview whether he thought that the virus was man made and he kind of fumbled that response as well and had to walk that back because of course the entire Intel community has said that it concurs with scientists that this would not meant made in other words to be a bio weapon So I it seems like he's been struggling to kind of keep up with the White House's manned four strong anti China messaging in this moment and they're looking for a very specific target to put all of their blamed on at the moment. It almost feels like this is sort of a trump said that in the moment I've seen evidence and then had to go make that real Happen so times and you specifically mention trump in pompeo are other members of the administration on board with this theory. I'd like anybody from the Pentagon or other officials or is it pretty much. Just those two at this point had really just seems to be those two. We've seen a few weeks to Fox News Saying that the weight of the evidence points to the lab theory but no other credible lake mainstream outlets reported that scene and given our conversations with people in the administration. They all agree that while the lab theory is a possibility that they haven't ruled out they don't really know what Pompeo trumper talking about when they say that. The weight of the evidence points to one theory over another. So we're not getting that from anyone else Particularly in Congress people who've seen the Intel say we have no idea where they're getting that from And that's on both sides of the aisle So it's it's it's definitely confounding. It is really interesting and and so it seems like the Democratic lawmakers desired outcome here is to just get the facts. They're wary of some of the you know anti-china rhetoric but I mean it seems like the goal here is to just really dig into the origins of where this came from so that we have a better understanding of it right. I mean that's it. That's the bottom line and they are also. I think trying to expose what they consider to be demonstrations ongoing politicization of intelligence. So this is kind of. They're wearing two hats at this. Point is the Intel Committee. Saying that look is this just another instance of trump trying to get the answer that he routes rather than the real answer out of out of the entire apparatus or is this something real So that of course is another really important purpose of them trying to get stance out of the administration because if if they're going as far as to manipulate intelligence on something this important than that's probably something that Congress should be aware of. Yeah exactly Well I appreciate you coming on and speaking with me today about the story I think this is hugely important. But you're right I don't. I don't know that it's going to go anywhere For now and I I really do wish you know with with their abandoning the CDC guidelines for reopening and Fema having said that we still have pe shortages. There just seems to be so many mixed messages and I appreciate the Democrats for trying to get at the truth. I don't know how effective it's going to be in this environment. Yeah we'll see what happens. We are probably never going to get a straight answer as to the origins of this. But you know. Hopefully scientists will keep digging into it and we'll at least get an objective answer one way or another all right. Well thanks national security correspondent from politico. Msnbc Contributor Natasha Bertrand speaking with me today thanks so much appreciate it. All right everybody stick around right after this..

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"Hey everybody welcome back joining me today for the interview with politico national security correspondent and MSNBC contributor and Natasha Bertrand and Tasha. Thank you for speaking with me today. Yeah I'm young. Yeah no problem so so. I've studying and parsing this recent report released by the Senate Select Committee on intelligence which I'd like to remind. Everyone is still chaired by Republican Richard. Burr and I've spoken to this week already spoken to David priests about it and Frank Lenzi about it and that was mostly about the body of the report. As it pertains to you know the proper predication for opening the Russia investigation et Cetera. But then I got to the end you know I just. I didn't get to the end until recently and there are these comments by Senator Wyden additional remarks and a couple things a couple of things struck me and I wanted to ask you because I know you tweeted about this He wants us to understand that. The report doesn't only support the intelligence community assessment that Russia interfered in our elections to help trump in two thousand sixteen. But he says why didn't hear says it also debunks trump's false assertions about Ukraine. How does this report do that? Yeah so one of trump's conspiracy theories since he was elected really has been that the DNC the Democratic National Committee was actually hacked by Ukrainians. And it something to do with. The group has something to do with the DNC server being in Ukraine and cloud strike being owned by Ukrainian which is not true. All of this kind of nonsense that his own advisers tried to wave him off pretty early on In his presidency. But that really just stuck with him probably because he had Putin in his ear telling him that Ukraine not Russia was responsible for hacking DNC and releasing all of those emails in two thousand sixteen. So what this report with the SEC- report does that came out this week is it definitively says that the assessment the intelligence community made in twenty seventeen about Russia's election and your parents was fundamentally correct that it was the Russians who hacked the DMC and it doesn't say that in so many words what it says is that because a lot of this report is blocked out. What it says is that they found these judgements to be analytically. Sound and that there was an appropriate amount of analysts and Good sourcing that went into this determination including the attribution to the Russians The basically the entire section is redacted including sections on motivation. But what we do then. Is We go back to the ICA intelligence near the assessment. We see what they said about. Of course the the Hammadi and see what they say is that they can attribute the cyber attacks on the political organizations. Which of course was the Democrats in two thousand sixteen to Russia? And so you know you go back. Is this your report? They say they find that to be sound. You're basically debunking the president's conspiracy theories about Ukraine Yeah and I can't help but wonder what's under those redacted par portions of Putin's role in Putin's goals in this and if it has to do with putting the blame on Ukraine. I mean we can sit here and guess what's under those forever but it's just. I thought it was very very fascinating that Ron Wyden. Just put this at the end of the report lake. Just a couple of things that I WANNA point out. I mean I think we were told that By Senator Kaine not what's under? The reductions is primarily predominantly like ninety nine point nine percent having to do with Sourcing so for Putin's motivations enroll for example. It most likely has to do with the person inside the Kremlin that the US government has been running as a source Because that's really the only way that you could get it at Putin's short of intercepts. I mean having someone near Putin and his inner circle hearing him express his preferred candidate. is really one of the only ways you can get a definitive read on on his motivation. So that that would be my guess. It's sources method stuff. Yeah Yeah and we did have that guy that was eventually pulled out a like a deep. Kremlin's by that had to come back exactly could be him could be peop- somebody would never heard of but yeah that's definitely all has to remain redacted But it's just it's absolutely fascinating and then and then and then this just freaks me out. It goes on to say and I haven't heard this come up in a while it with regards to the Russian interference he says he's concerned about Department of Homeland Security and the intelligence communities assessments. Lack of commentary on the vote tally manipulation. What does that? What is he referring to? Yes so I think what he means is that he they. There wasn't enough kind of investigation or really any kind of investigation done into whether there was any there was no forensic investigation done rates. There were intelligence gaps and there were caveats that were not included in the public version of the and that of course is alarming because the icy and administration officials have been saying for years. Now that there is no evidence that any votes were changed and that of course kind of conveyed a sense of certainty To the American public that you know they have competence when they went to the voting booth but Ron wideness. Egg is that there were serious. Gaps indeed Jesse's assessment and this to my knowledge and you pointed this out earlier is seems like it's the first that lawmakers come out and actually called D H s out on this So you know. I think it's really important to go back and recall that it's always been. There's no evidence for this. We haven't seen evidence of it. It's never been you know. This is definitively not what happened. So I think it's an ongoing saga with regard to the actual vote counts but the election structure to my knowledge has has improved a bit of twenty sixteen but it really hasn't improved as much as it needs to. Yano and he brings up. You know paper ballots. Landmark paper ballots something auditable. A paper trail Some things that people are obviously concerned about and and it's not even like That there's no evidence that they didn't even look into it and because Muller said this in his report at least from his vantage point with his investigation he's like I can't tell you if votes if the vote count was manipulated because I did not even investigate that and so and of course you know the the. There's going to be certain people who take that to mean. The Votes. Were not manipulated. But here's Ron wyden saying we don't know if they were and we need to know these kinds of things and I wanNA bring that to everyone's attention right exactly bananas. What occurred what a interesting timing to you. Know with the whole release bars release or the. Mci Rick Grenell's release of the DOJ AIG's footnotes and. It's yeah I mean. I think there's a reason why those have been selectively leaked to from journalists Of course of course the most all say about that. It was like the selective leaks of the struck page texts. You know in the middle of the night from the Department of Justice. But don't say where you got them right exactly. Yeah I mean I. I don't think anything is a coincidence. These days right so you know it. Can't it really can't be and now this last minute thing? I wanted to ask you about just because of your. I know your background rick. Bright the doctor Totally off subject here. But this doctor who is now like a live action whistleblower coming out of a federal health agency working on a vaccine. Saying I was taken out of my job because I was pushing back against Hydroxy Cora Quentin And I just find that absolutely absolutely fascinating that we have a live. Real time whistleblower. That didn't get punted by some deny are pushed aside by the Department of Justice. So I think this is going to be a fascinating story. Yeah this is going to be a big fight. Especially because I mean he hired the same lawyers that represented Christine Wasi Ford. He is clearly going very big on this like he leaked the statement. I The New York to Miami near times to ensure maximum exposure. So he is going all out. I mean when he was fired a few days ago we ERC when he was tired when he was reassigned a few days ago we all thought that was very very weird. It was very abrupt and our health folks just said that it just didn't smell right so it makes sense now that the truth is coming out on but it just goes to show that like this administration will will do virtually anything to make sure that trump looks good And that he is above all else you know seen as seen correct encinas doing. What's right in this situation? So even at the expense of actual expertise so it's going to be a an interesting storyline to follow just a personal question not personal but personally wouldn't why do you think trump pushed hydroxy. Clark when so hard I? It doesn't seem like it's a profitable drug. Do you think it was just to some way to get reelected. Like what was his motive. You know it's possible that he there are a couple of things that could be possible. The first is that he had rudy Giuliani in his ear. constantly. Who has been pushing this for weeks and weeks? Not Months as a potential cure rudy. Giuliani is someone who's extremely influential on. Who Trump really respects and he has been talking to the president for a long time about this. So that's one thing it's like. Trump has a tendency to just do in say with whoever you know whatever was locked in his ear from whoever But another yeah. Another possibility is the more cynical one which is that. He just wanted a cure and quick And he thought that it might speed things off and reopen the economy. Which of course he needs to to potentially reelected so there are a couple of reasons. The New York Times floated the possibility. Of course he has some stock in some companies that may benefit from it. But it doesn't seem like it's enough money to actually really make a difference for him but you know Kurnia them all that you really can't You can't write it off. Yeah no and maybe not an actual cure but maybe a. You know a figurative cure. That can't be disproven. You know not kind of kind of Shit. Who knows I assume some day somebody will dig it up and we'll figure it out? Well thank you so much everybody. Thank you for listening national security correspondent for Politico Natasha Bertrand. Thank you again for speaking to me. Thank you all right. Everybody coming up next. Is the good news block. You don't want to miss it today. We all need it. Stick around..

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"Dot com slash daily beans. That's the zebra dot com slash daily. Beans Again T. H. E. Z. E. B. R. A. dot com slash daily beans. You'll be glad you. Hey everybody welcome back. Thanks for joining me today. There is some new polling out and I wanted to share these numbers with you From a morning consult poll. Only fourteen percent of Americans say which would stop social distancing to stimulate the economy even if it means increasing the spread of the virus whereas seventy six percent say Americans should continue to social distance for as long as necessary even if it means economic damage. Seventy six percent of Americans not Democrats American seventy. You can't get seventy six percent of America to agree on anything but they agree on this. We should continue to social distance for as long as necessary and a Quinnipiac poll says seventy two percent of Florida. Voters say that Florida should not loosen social distancing rules. Seventy two percent of Florida says this They should not loosen rules. By the end of April twenty two percent say they should and seventy six percent say that the state's economy should only reopened when public health officials? Deem IT SAFE I. I'm assuming that means as opposed to politicians probably a wise choice. Seventy six percent of Florida voters. No Yeah Florida voters and a new Reuters. Ipsos poll Reuters and put these polls out. Seventy two percent of adults in the United States. Said people should stay at home until doctors and public. Health officials say at safe and that includes eighty percent of Democrats who are the twelve percent. That's weird that seems low fifty five percent of Republicans say we should stay at home until doctors and public health officials. Tell us it's okay. And seventy percent of independence. Big Number right there. Independent swing elections. So that is a big big number. Seventy seven and ten independence. These are encouraging poll numbers in the face of governors like Rhonda Santa's in Florida and camp and Georgia who are reopening businesses without even meeting the gate and criteria for phase one reopening set forth by the trump's by the trump task force the White House Task Force and Camp in Georgia appears to be opening businesses that require actual contact between the client and the provider like the opposite of the businesses. You would open I. And he's naming that he's like he's calling them out like body piercing shops TATTOO PARLORS. Nail salons hair salons a massage studios. I'm surprised he's not. You know opening up vomit oriels or GDP inspiration point where people make out hug city. Come to hug city and you know in the store where everyone's face but David masterson positive something more sinister on twitter. He says this is about making sure people can't file an employment. It isn't about saving lives. It's certainly not about the peak of the curve. It's not about reopening the economy. He says he thinks a lot of people are going to ignore the governor. And stay home regardless. This isn't a decision. He says being driven by Epidemiology. If there's no state order calling for businesses to be closed the people who are unemployed can no longer claim their unemployment is involuntary even if it would be utter idiocy for them to return to work a hairdresser or a massage. Therapist cannot maintain social distance. But they can certainly file for relief unless the law says they can work. So gyms fitness centers bowling alleys. Where y'all share shoes and body art studios barbers cosmetologists hair designers NAIL CARE? Artists AESTHETICIANS School there and they're beauty schools and massage therapists not banks not software firms. Not Factories not schools and he says it's no coincidence that the businesses on this list staffed by relatively poor people because that's who he wants off the unemployment rolls and then he says after they die. Well they're mostly black and Brown people or Asian people or poor people and that's an acceptable political loss for Republican governor. The purpose of this he says is not to open up these businesses. It's to get the workers there off the Dole work and die or don't work so that was a twitter thread that I read. I read it and this is just an. It's a theory you know. These are just beans. they're not my beans but I wanted to share that with you and I wanted to see what you all thought of that But that guy's name is David Masterson and you can find. It Re tweeted on my twitter feed at muller she wrote all right and and oddly trump said today in the White House press briefing. I know don't usually talk about them but this made the news. He said he disagrees with Kemp on opening up based on a model that says Georgia and eleven. Other states shouldn't open until June eighth. It is April Twenty. Second Twenty third if you're listening M- on Wednesday June eighth. This model says but trump was very soft on this. He said however he didn't mention the June eighth date any said Well I disagree with what he's doing but he's the governor. He can do what he wants to do what he needs to do. So the buck clearly doesn't stop with Teflon Don and a doctor said today. He was removed from a key. Federal Agency in charge of developing a vaccine for Corona virus after pushing for rigorous testing of hydroxy chloroquine. The doctors names Rick. Bright was a career official and he was leading the administration's push for a vaccine but says he was pushed out for trying to limit the use of hydroxy chloroquine. We'll talk about this whistle blower a little more in detail in a bit with Natasha Bertrand. But he has hired Christine Blase. Ford's lawyers and he's he's and his name is out there. He's not. He's not threatened by exposure from bill bar in his bully assholes and in another story here the head of the CDC. Dr Redfield said we're going to. He told The Washington Post. We're going to have the flu. Epidemic Corona virus epidemic at the same time that could be devastating but he said today when asked about at the press briefing that he he. He did. Say that he he actually. There's no but here. He confirmed that those were his remarks. Twice and that This spring what we just went through. We had the benefit of having the flu season. Beat over so we could. We could use all of our flu systems to say this corona virus but next fall and winter we're going to have to viruses and we'll have to differentiate between the two and he says the comments. I made Are that that will make it more difficult. Not impossible just difficult and What I was wanting to do is appeal to the public that they really can help by getting the flu vaccine so we can eliminate as much as possible because we don't have a vaccine for Corona Virus. But we do have a vaccine for flu. He he did not mention or comment on his word devastating though and at that point trump but it said that the headline in The Washington Post was wrong though And the headline said that it will be more devastating and Redfield at was asked out again. Did you mean that? Did you say that? And he he again said He. He confirms what he told The Washington Post but he did not affirm or deny that he used the word devastating but trump insisted that he did not know when a reporter a woman by the way asked Redfield. Why did you re tweet the article? If the headline was inaccurate at which point redfield just left the podium and trump pointed the woman with his index finger pointed at her and said you weren't called. You weren't called scolded her and then Burke Scott up and said she wanted to address. The word devastating. She said we've well. We've learned a lot and we're building together in the strength of the American people and their ability to protect themselves and we have this summer to prepare for the fall if cova comes back so we're preparing making sure all the pieces are in place and what Redfield was asking for was to follow the guidelines and get a flu shot trump then said but it in from the sidelines and said there's a good chance cove it won't come back in the fall so that was just a shit show. Redfield wouldn't back off of his comment. Trump called it fake news. He shut down the reporters asking about it. And then Burke said we'll be ready if it may be possibly potentially comes back and then trump added if it does come back. It won't come back in the way that it was it will come back and smaller doses. We can contain. He said what Redfield was saying if it comes back with the flu but from everything. I've seen it can't be anything like what we've just went through for everything he's seen. It can't be like what we've just went through all of these pandemics. He's been through he. He's seeing it won't be what we've gone through. In the spring at which point berks left the stage just exit stage left so trump is promising. We will not go through what we've gone through. Someone asked him. How can you know it won't come back? Worse than before to which trump answered it may not come back at all and if it does come back it's not going to come back and I've spoken to like ten different people and it's not going to be like it was ten different people. People hate the races people so trump is telling America. It's not gonNA come back in the fall. Don't worry about it comes back at all. It won't even be in. It'll be in small doses and will contain it because we know how to wash your hands now. No one ever heard of washing hands but every fifteen minutes. No one even knew what that meant. He actually said that yesterday. No one knows what that meant. Wash your hands every fifteen minutes. But now we know and we have three months to prepare so absolutely ridiculous and from the Washington Post. According to health officials in California at least two people who died early and in mid-february had contracted the novel Corona Virus and died from it. That's weeks earlier than previously thought and both patients hadn't traveled so it was contracted from community spread according to health officials. Initially the nation's earliest cove fatality was thought to have occurred February. Twenty ninth in Kirkland Washington and then one in March and in March health officials then linked to February twenty six deaths to Cova earlier deaths. Now the ones that are in early and mid February could mean cove in nineteen may have been misdiagnosed in many people earlier this year being mistaken for pneumonia the flu and also modeling like the model. That said you know we would be at one hundred thousand deaths by August. It was adjusted down to sixty thousand deaths by August but we just had an update. It's been upped to sixty six thousand deaths by August. What trump calls a win models like these rely heavily on the start date of an outbreak if date gets pushed back models have to be redone to be reviewed could increase the number of people believed to be infected right now?.

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12:33 min | 1 year ago

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"How are you doing well good? I wanted to talk to you today because I just read your new piece in politico and you do an amazing job of summarizing trump's attack on the intelligence community from the firing of DNA McGuire to even before that and then to you know his other aides and chief of staff being ousted and we have. We've had a little reporting on. Adam Schiff and his complaints about the NSA sort of slow rolling production of evidence in the Ukraine scandal. But you sort of go into more depth on that in this. He's not wondering if you could tell us a little bit about that. Yes this is An aspect of of all of this that we think curious about sense Adam Schiff came out and believe it was last month saying that the NSA NCAA had been not cooperative and with the committee and handing over documents related to Ukraine Things that might be helpful for the Democrats impeachment investigation so we were trying to get more information about what he meant what he wanted etc and we learned that essentially what was happening is that the. Nsa was providing documents under the auspices of course of normal congressional oversight and they were telling hip seep look. We'll give you the stuff. This is part of oversight right right like this isn't political. This oversight and hip see was saying yes you know. This is things that we're using in order to maintain a check on the IC as well as on the president so that was kind of the there was like a little bit of a of a game being played there Where both you know the NSA and House Intel. We're trying to kind of stay outside of state under trump's radar and tried to stay outside of politics so and it's delicate right because a lot of material but it had to do with Ukraine and you know the Russians involvement there whether or not any you know people in Trump's orbit were. Were you know in Boston? Any elicit conversations CETERA. So what what happened was that That ultimately became untenable. Because Robert O'Brien the national security adviser told. Nsa look are you know you should really step back and and stop providing this information to Hep c? Until we can figure out what. Cia is pushing to produce and CIA ultimately produce nothing and so NASA had to eventually turn off the faucet too because it was just unsustainable given the White House pressure to keep providing on those kinds of documents to the house and Talk Midi Awhile and I had heard that the kind of Intel that the NSA might have would be conversations perhaps amongst Ukrainian officials and perhaps other Russians were as information the CIA would have would be communications between foreign people and United States citizens. Do you have any kind of insight into what the NSA might have been providing and then stopped providing like what sort of documents and evidence or are we looking at here? It's a great question and we've tried to pry this out of our sources but it's it's nearly impossible but what we did so for example we asked specifically you know. Was it intercepts that the House Intel Committee wanted you know what what actually returning over etcetera and it was obviously like pulling teeth but we did learn and we what we were told by a former senior intelligence official. Who was involved in this process? Is that phrase he phrased it very carefully is that nothing was withheld from house? Intel that would have been incriminating or damning for the president so in other words there was nothing buried per se by an essay. The White House's instructions according to this former senior official Acknowledging of course that a lot of the documents if not all of them that are being turned over were relevant to what the Democrats wanted to know about the situation in Ukraine Russia. Us people persons etc so he our shores kind of reassured us that you know it. It wasn't political to the extent that things will being buried Yeah and that's an interesting way to word that too because you know I I kinda get the feeling like nothing would have been more incriminating than things we already know. Point but like an and yeah. It's it's hard to know. They have very specific verbiage. Forgetting it that thing at that stuff And and you know making sure that They don't tell us too much but With the with the firing of like Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin and the backlash against Giovanni rich from the White House. It's really put sort of this freeze on whistleblowers So I mean how do you think that I mean if you're at the NSA or the CIA and you you're sitting on something that's quote unquote not buried but might be relevant important? What what do you do? I mean I would be terrified to come forward as a you know even people who have used the legitimate whistleblower process seem to seem to be targets. Yeah you know. It's a conversation that I'm having constantly with with people in the community You know it's it's tough because they're asking the same question like could do we go to. If there's a politically sensitive tip we get or if there's an investigation we want to pursue That might draw. The ire of the president is it worth even going down that rabbit hole. Seen what happened to people like Pete Strock Lisa page the whistle blower being attempted but the president attempted to expose that person's identity So where the process is still in place right. I mean the process to go through to to file a a whistleblower complaint is still there and it's intact But seeing you know the fact that people like Joseph Maguire who was the acting director of National Intelligence and who for all intents and purposes on the advice of general counsel of Ot and I actually blocked the whistleblower complaint from getting to Congress so in a way actually helped the president. He was even fired. Right unceremoniously so this is a big question. And it's an open mind as to. How are people in the community? Moving forward going to deal with these politically sensitive issues. Because I've been told more than once that people in the bureau people in the agency. Are you know kind of not wanting to touch things that might be that the higher ups might say? Look you know. We don't need this right now. We Are Kirsten Nielsen. When she she couldn't bring up Russia Because it upset the president. And then you've you've got the them giving the the gang of eight briefing the FBI about you know Election security concerns or national security concerns and that they're supposed to do that and even that upset the president enough to where he removed. Not Just Maguire but his what did you say? As chief of staff and another aide. Yeah Garage Mirani who chief of Staff And who who was there since two thousand seventeen and Andy Hallman who was essentially Maguire's deputy who now is back at CIA Yeah and I think it's also important to remember that Bill Bar recently issued a mandate saying that you know any new opening of any investigations regarding presidential campaigns or candidates has to be signed off on by him and former FBI folks who were involved in the twenty sixteen staff and who you know who have since left the bureau even recently said look that's going to have a chilling effect because who wants to even launch this kind of thing knowing that it's going to go up to bill bar who's proven himself to be really a trump loyalist. So it's it's having a very realistic fact when now. You also have O'Brien who in your article you point out that he's saying that the McGuire removal and the gang of eight briefing are not related. D Do you have any other information about the fact that they probably are or do we have that evidence so so it's tough. Yeah we don't have. We don't have evidence That directly linking Maguire's firing something in writing for example directly linking Maguire's firing to that briefing. We have sources saying that the president was really upset about the fact that he wasn't told about this briefing and that you know he was mad. That Adam Schiff was told about it and that it might be weaponized by Democrats but what the White House is saying. Is that you know. Brian was always due to leave. And that they were looking for. Senate confirmed replacements anyway. it's it's a little bit unbelievable because you know. O'brien was in talks as of a couple of days before his firing to potentially be Nominated to serve as the permanent director of National Intelligence and he was telling people that he was actually pretty hopeful that he could be nominated for that position so clearly something changed abruptly and he had to call the director the National Security Adviser O'Brien to actually find out that he was being ousted so he learned about it from prep from reporters reaching out and asking about Grenell so clearly. This is not something that was well thought out in advance. He was certainly caught off guard by it. And the only real thing that happened between the period of him expecting to be nominated and being fired was of course this briefing that set off the president. Yeah and and I think didn't McGuire actually. Kinda quit before he was supposed to anyway sort of resigned. Yes so he's actually resigned from government And he you know is not going back to the National Counterterrorism Center and is just cited to leave altogether He sent her resignation letter out and and it was before I believe was actually installed in actually His deputies who had just mentioned the chief of staff and the principal executive they wanted to stay on and help with the transition period. And Help Grenell get you know just because he does not have any intelligence community experience but they were told to leave immediately and kind of pack their things within a day so they weren't getting a chance while it's just it's very frightening Everything that's happening with the Intelligence Community Department of Justice. I have to say yeah. It's a I think people are definitely worried about the ramifications of how it's being politicized to greater extent than ever before it seems like trump has really tightened his grip and folks like Cigna Half Sports Director Gina Hospital who who people had within the intelligence community and who formers had hoped might hold the line. are starting to see cracks in that as well and aren't as convinced that she will stand up to him in the way that perhaps he needs to be confronted by members of the I see. Yeah agreed I'd like to hear from also Dan Coats and Sue Gordon. The Yeah Yeah. Dan Coats is laying very low at the moment and sue. Gordon has been very selective with who she speaks to and but I imagine a that won't last very long here. Well cheers to that. Maybe we'll hear from them sometime soon and get a little bit better picture about what's going on. Thank you so much for coming back on national security correspondent for politico and MSNBC contributor. Natasha Bertrand. Thank you thanks for having me. She's so smart. I Love Natasha. She was with us live in. Dc wasn't she and her and King Fang both yes. That was so awesome. Thing is so funny. Yeah forgot how funny she is. Tasha was amazing. She's just Natasha's like one of the smartest people ever said. Thank you Natasha. For appearing on daily beans first time I think on daily beans for Natasha. We'll be right back with some good news to balance out the day so stay with us. Hey everybody it's a g in this portion of the daily beast is brought to you by. Upstart upstart is a revolutionary lending platform. That knows you're more than just your credit score. And they offer smarter interest rates to help pay off high interest credit card..

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05:00 min | 1 year ago

Bannon delivers damaging testimony in trial of longtime Trump adviser Stone

"Then candidate Donald Trump loved that wiki leaks as he called it released emails stolen by Russian government hackers that were damaging to Hillary Clinton and what Donald Trump was repeatedly praising wikileaks. Steve Bannon was working for him as his his campaign. Chief Executive and Roger Stone was trump's informal advisor today. Steve Bannon testified under oath that Donald Trump's two thousand in sixteen campaign considered trump's longtime confidant roger stone as the quote access point and quote to wikileaks Bannon delivered delivered that explosive testimony in the ongoing trial of Roger Stone on charges. That stone lied to Congress while it was investigating Russia's attack on our election bannon told the jury quote the campaign had no official access to wikileaks or to Julian assange but Roger would be considered if we needed an access point because he had implied or told me he had a relationship with wikileaks and Julian assange. It was something I think. He would frequently mention or talk about. That goes to one of the most crucial unanswered questions about then candidate. Donald Trump did he rely on Roger Stone his longest serving get visor to get dirt on Hillary Clinton joining us now mother Jones reporter Dan Friedman who was inside the courthouse today back with Natasha Bertrand National Security correspondent four politico and an MSNBC contributor. Dan I just want to quote from your own a reporting here. You wrote an article in which you say. tump trump trump's campaign pain apparently thought it was colluding with wikileaks. Steve Bannon says trump team saw roger. Stone has access point to assange. The trump campaign apparently thought it it was colluding with wikileaks in Bannon's cross examination today stones defense attorney asked him you and the trump campaign didn't view Steve Stone Tone at the access point to wikileaks and Bannon. Says I think we did yes. That's remarkable. Yeah that's pretty striking and Bannon didn't only say that the trump campaign was receiving what he thought was inside information on wikileaks from Roger Stone. He also suggested did that. They believed that the that stone was sort of orchestrating. The release of this stolen democratic emails Bannon said that when when wikileaks released the emails the emails from Clinton campaign chairman. John Podesta in on October Seventh Twenty Sixteen Sixteen. He said he heard that stone had been involved in making that happen. And then Bannon's assistant on the same day sent stone an email that said well done just two words so they kind of thought that stone was actually helping them actively which is quite striking. What's the implication of that Dash? Oh what what is the implication of them thinking. They were working through stone with wikileaks and extensively with the Russians who had done the hacking that wikileaks wikileaks. With the the information that wikileaks had. What's the implication of that on those who believe that there was some kind of coordination between the trump campaign the Russians or the trump campaign and Julian assange? Well the implication I think would be that they tried to cheat right. One of the biggest questions is whether the when after the access. Hollywood tape dropped about twenty minutes later. wikileaks started releasing the emails from John. Podesta's Inbox and the biggest question has always been and did someone. Coordinate that close to the campaign or on the campaign directly coordinate with wikileaks and I think it was just touched upon a bit that that Bannon a and did testify to the fact that they believed that Roger Stone had this power and an access and he also said that he really felt like at the moment when they needed wikileaks most when they felt like they needed more emails to come out that were damaging to the Democrats and Hillary Clinton they felt like they could rely on on stone as that access point so I think that obviously raises a whole bunch of questions about whether they were waiting for a pivotal moment in the campaign when trump was literally at his lowest point Republicans and allies abandoned him left and right after the access. Hollywood tape came out when they actually went to stone and said Hey. Please help us out and do this because the the timing of that release after the access. Hollywood tape was extremely to put a generously coincidental. So then is there anything in that trial in which we are establishing whether weather. Someone did coordinate. That because as the TASHA said observers of this at the pre K. concurrently while it was happening or in hindsight can conclude that it was either coincidental or lucky organized and yet people who say the guy is a big talker. He wanted everybody to think he was title. Julian assange and wikileaks. But that he. The evidence isn't clear that he was

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New book on Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump paints a gloomy portrait

Mueller, She Wrote

03:44 min | 2 years ago

New book on Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump paints a gloomy portrait

"Right. So this week guys. The guardian got a hold of a new book coming out March nineteenth called Kush ink by Vicky ward, I mentioned at top of the show or not the top maybe. But earlier in the show when I was talking about Trump printing out the Komi firing letter on the wrong printer. So in this book, some of our beans came true, check out this clip from episode eighteen the Daily Beast broke a story on Friday that Kushner's dad asked a Qatari firm to lend the Kushner's money to shore up sixty six sixty six Fifth Avenue. We've talked about the six six six building. It's the office building that's the centerpiece of the Kushner real estate empire, and it is one billion dollars in debt, and that loan is coming due in two, months, and Kushner and his family been scrambling to get money to pay this lingo. And that's what the city group and Apollo five hundred million dollar loans went into the office building. And Kushner's dad went to Qatar and ask them can we have some money and to to put into this office building Qatar looked at the office building because he bought it in two thousand seven right before the bubble bursts. So that was dumb and Qatar went no note that you and that upset Kushner, but what's interesting is that when that deal fell apart. Kushner backed a Saudi blockade of Qatar. Basically teaming up with Saudi Arabians to to put throw a blockade up against Qatar and Qatar is one of our key allies in the fight against Aycell in the region, that's national security level shit. We have thousands troops in Qatar like. But his, but he but his not getting alone. And now, it's not proven that. It's connected. But it's to him. It was clearly more important, but well, whether he did it because of that or not, but he did he did advocate for the blockade against Qatar. And it happened to be less than a month after Qatar refused to lend him money on that build interesting. So we'll see if that also. Yeah, we'll see Moller's looking into it. And also the securities the SEC the securities and Exchange Commission dropped an inquiry into Apollo Apollo global management less than a month after they agreed to lend Kushner one hundred and eighty million dollars. So go back and listen to eighteen because it's all about putting club Kushner, and I have a feeling we're going to hear a lot more about Kushner in the next couple of weeks anyhow in this new book, we learned that around that time Kush was confronted by Tillerson, and Gary Cohn who blamed Kush for Trump's abrupt endorsement of. Saudi blockade against cutter. Even though they're an ally in the region. We have our one of our largest bases there with a quite a few military stationed there. Shortly thereafter, cutter help to bail out Kushner from his devil building sixty six Fifth Avenue. The guardian also published a piece this week about cushion, how his friendship with Mohammed bin some on. The crown prince of Saudi Arabia is at the heart of US Saudi relations, and as we know Kushner Flynn, and a whole host Trump allies have pushed to provide the Saudis with technology to build nuclear reactor plants that could put them on the path to developing nuclear weapons if they want to enrich their own uranium, which they definitely do which is dumb because it's way less than half the price to get it enriched elsewhere and shipped back to you. So the fact that you want enriched uranium suspicious uranium means you want to make weapons. So let's go over a few things we discuss regarding Kushner on the pod I way back in April twenty seventeen Kushner's dad asked the country's for a loan. And they said, no, you're stupid. Get out of him two months later. Saudi Arabia throws up the blockade much to the chagrin of Conan. Tillerson. Incidentally, that's right around the time Jamalco Shoji left Saudi Arabia after he trash talk Trump.

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