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"napa river basin" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

"N. T. which you mentioned that the on set the the the one part of this concoction the P. very this contains the empty you can pronounce that yes is dimethyl tryptamine fellow what could you even throws off the done now that it so this is something not exclusive to be veritest it's found a bunch of psychedelic substances and this is something that can cause hallucinations perhaps changes in your perception your state of consciousness your sense of self which will really get into that has a lot to do with the I. what's good journey hi however if you just eat the DMT it's not gonna have that this kind of effect on you because there's an enzyme called monoamine oxidase mmhm and that's gonna break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed you have to combine it with this copy vine which prevents the uptake of it yeah the copy vine has an alkaloid called harmala alkaloids informally ins are separate psychotropic in and of themselves which is why the the copy buying alone used to just be I Oscar but the fact that it prevents your your the monoamine oxidase to break down the D. M. T. L. as your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls although I hear it's not all of a sudden I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on and then it takes like a supplementary boost an hour or so later to to really bring on like the the the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take on Alaska yeah for sure so you've got that you've got the D. M. T. being absorbed that's the one two punch right you've got the DMT itself and then you've got the plant that allows the DM T. to be absorbed and when you put those two things together the P. veritest and the B. copy that's what the that's the IRA was good that you read about vice that's what they're talking about yeah in these you know this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally as a shaman that knows what they're doing and they're sometimes our other plans that are brewed in there as well but not always and sometimes it's bird separately and then combine later sometimes it all depends on which shaman you go to of what the ritual is like sometimes you're included as part of it sometimes is like a thick liquid T. sometimes it's a paste it's been described no matter what it is it seems like around the the horn everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that that you can very easily throw up which is something that's pretty common with the with an I. O. Oscar experiences I didn't get that from the from the taste though I know that that was like once it's in your body it makes you nauseous and you throw up right but like other states so bad and if you get up no no because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed right yeah but you I think they taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up but that whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like a hundred percent you're going to throw up there the the point one of the points of an I. O. Oscar ceremony is to throw up you're meant to throw up in your do you will actually be forced into this either if you don't do it from the I. O. Oscar you may also be given something like tobacco juice like a water with tobacco that soaks in it for a while in you'll be told to drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up for diary is a very frequent side effect of Iowa's very frequent do you are you are meant to be purging cure your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the the horrible mess that's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip in is the trips that soon yeah the taste has been described the New York times is that it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from box dot com took it again in Shawn Eling he described it as a couple of motor oil diluted with a splash of water right so I read I read it's almost as gross as a Necco wafer the only other at an echo A. for good on you have you know one of my crazy what other no go away for sterling old timey kind of like chalky candy that comes in a role you see them probably you've seen them in my old timey candidacy exactly sure I did yeah so all right I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's oranges its origins in the napa river basin by this run a tribe like you said and it's called the vine of death of the mother vine this copy and they think that early on they may have just taken this copy by itself right right because it was on the brew it's got the hormones in it that's not only an MA I'd but also has like its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on so that was the original I Oscar yeah and we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to trying you know Christianize folks and trip balls yeah because I'm sure the entry was like whoa and that's it you hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary yes on seven oh leads his Sentinel island yeah he he it is like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a Bible that he was holding apparently I had heard about that yet because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it instead he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an error was shot through it I'm like dude if that is not like if you believe in god that's a sign from god well you you remember the turnaround the man in the whole episode we talked about them yeah they were the ones that you like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near him and did some fishermen have been killed like yours a few years back and this guy I guess had tried them he decided he was going to be the one yeah I don't actually know enough about the story but he clearly was trying to gain access to them yeah yeah he he was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid if you're not suppose it's illegal I think even trespass there yeah but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there and they did so in those people were arrested and his family saying you you need to let these people go because he like really wanted to do this I see interesting yeah it is crazy but I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting an arrow through the Bible holding up now so goals I tried but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds right when they went in there like me there's something going on down here that's very interesting yeah and even William S. Burroughs wrote the ya Hey letters yeah in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the I. O. Oscar vine and apparently the the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century they you could combine it with the P. veritest right line in and have a completely different experience but that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony you could perform but the most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death right yeah and then at some point somebody started putting them together in word about this got out in the the mid two thousands is when it just I was feeling kind of hit the the public consciousness in in the west yeah I mean in the sixties of course in in certain you know subcultures in America they knew about it because of William S. Burroughs and people seeking out you know things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences but it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know not not too long ago and even still I think even at the time it was strictly the harm leans in and just the the vine that was being used the copy vine it was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the the veritest plant and that's when it became hugely popular yes so popular now that there okay tourism big time Mike going on in South America in said the central part is Peru's a room bomba valley and if you I mean if you were going down for an I. O. Oscar experience like a spiritual quest is what is the reason you're going down there I don't fault you for that at all sure do you have to understand Dee Dee you have to do your research to show up in South America and be like all right to make me smile Oscar because there are a lot of in scrupulous in the Far East outfits that have come up sure you to take advantage is explicitly owns that kind of western tourists the ill informed western tourists who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get the spiritual experience you're looking for so you have to do your research because there are some legitimate I Oscar outfits in South America but you they're they're not going to take you for you to show up down there you're gonna end up in some some in a bad situation yeah for sure so taking part in in one of the ceremonies let's say you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever however you're paying your golden gets and trinkets it still is sort of funny it all goes back to Burroughs with the set in setting thing right which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set and setting we're going to do this so goes well for you so as this concoction is being brutal like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this in helping to mash it up and threw the T. but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show it's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and wrote just on kind of the right things going and like what do you want to accomplish here would you want to find out about yourself what questions do you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket although I would recommend bringing your own yeah I hadn't thought about that I would not want to a re used bucket good lord I hadn't even considered that B. B. Y. O. B. for me so.

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"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

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13:27 min | 1 year ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

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T. which you mentioned that the on set the the the one part of this concoction the P. various contains the empty your pronounce that yes is dimethyl tryptamine fo what could you even throws off the done now that it is so this is something not exclusive to be this is found in a bunch of psychedelic substances and this is something that can cause hallucinations perhaps changes in your perception your state of consciousness your sense of self which will really get into that has a lot to do with the I. what's good journey right however if you just eat the DMT it's not gonna have that this kind of affect on you because there's an enzyme called monoamine oxidase that's gonna break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed you have to combine it with this copy vine which prevents the uptake of it yeah the copy vine has an alkaloid called harmala alkaloids informally ins are separate psychotropic in and of themselves which is why the the copy buying alone used to just be I Oscar but the fact that it prevents you're you're the monoamine oxidase to break down the D. M. T. it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls although I hear it's not all of a sudden I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on and then it takes like a supplementary boost an hour or so later to to really bring on like the the the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take I. O. Oscar yeah for sure so you've got that you've got the D. M. T. being absorbed that's the one two punch right you've got the DMT itself and then you've got the plant that allows the DM T. to be absorbed and when you put those two things together the P. veritest and the B. copy that's what the that's the IRA was good that you read about advice that's what they're talking about yeah in these you know this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally as a shaman that knows what they're doing and they're sometimes our other plans that are brewed in there as well but not always and sometimes it's bird separately and then combine later sometimes it all depends on which shaman you go to of what the ritual is like sometimes you're included as part of it sometimes it's like a thick liquid T. sometimes it's a paste it's been described no matter what it is it seems like around the the horn everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that that you can very easily throw up which is something that's pretty common with the with an I. O. Oscar experiences I didn't get that from the from the taste though I know that was like once it's in your body it makes you nauseous and you throw up right but like other states so bad I'm going to pick it up no no because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed right yeah but you I think they taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up but that whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like a hundred percent you're going to throw up there the the point one of the points of an I. O. Oscar ceremony is to throw up your men to throw up and your do you will actually be forced into this either if you don't do it from the Iowa Oskar you may also be given something like tobacco juice like a water with tobacco that soaks in it for a while in you'll be told to drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up for diary is a very frequent side effect of Iowa's very frequent do you are you are meant to be purging cure your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the the horrible mess that's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip in is this trip sets in yeah the taste has been described the New York times is that it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from box dot com to get a gun and Sean Eling he described it as a couple of motor oil diluted with a splash of water right so I read I read it's almost as gross as a Necco wafer when the other had a neck away for good on you have you know one of my crazy what are the no go away for sterling old timey kind of like chalky candy that comes in a role you see them probably you've seen them and my old timey candidacy exactly sure I did yeah so all right I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's oranges its origins in the napa river basin by this run a tribe like you said and it's called the vine of death of the mother vine this copy and they think that early on they may have just taken this copy by itself right right because the way down the brew it's got the hormones in it that's not only an MA I'd but also has like its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on so that was the original I Oscar yeah and we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to try and you know Christianize folks and trip balls yeah because I'm sure the entry was like whoa and that's it you hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary yes sun Sentinel leads his Sentinel island yeah he he it is like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a Bible that he was holding apparently I had heard about that yeah because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it instead he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an error was shot through it I'm like dude if that is not like if you believe in god that's a sign from god well you you remember in the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them yeah they were the ones that you like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near him and did some fishermen have been killed like yours a few years back and this guy I guess had tried them he decided he was going to be the one yeah I don't actually know enough about the story but he clearly was trying to gain access to them yeah yeah he he was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid if you're not suppose it's illegal I think even trespass there yeah but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there and they did so in those people were arrested and his family saying you you need to let these people go because he like really wanted to do this I see interesting yeah it is crazy but I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting an arrow through the Bible holding up right now so yells I try but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds right when they went in there like me there's something going on down here that's very interesting yeah and even William S. Burroughs wrote the ya Hey letters yeah in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the I. O. Oscar vine and apparently they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century they you could combine it with the Aratus right line in and have a completely different experience but that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony you could perform but the most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death right yeah and then at some point somebody started putting them together in word about this got out in the the mid two thousands is when it just I was feeling kind of hit the the public consciousness in in the west yeah I mean in the sixties of course in in certain you know subcultures in America they knew about it because of William S. Burroughs and people seeking out you know things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences but it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know not not too long ago and even still I think even of the time it was strictly the harm leans in and just the the vine that was being used the copy vine it was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the the veritest plant and that's when it became hugely popular yes so popular now that there is okay tourism big time like going on in South America in said the central part is Peru's a room bomba valley and if you I mean if you were going down for an I. O. Oscar experience like a spiritual quest this was the reason you're going down there I don't fault you for that at all sure do you have to understand D. D. you have to do your research to show up in South America be like all right to make me smile Oscar because there are a lot of in scrupulous in the Far East outfits that have come up sure you to take advantage explicitly owns that kind of western tourists the ill informed western tourists who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get the spiritual experience you're looking for so you have to do your research because there are some legitimate I Oscar outfits in South America but you they're they're not going to take you for you to show up down there you're gonna end up in some some in a bad situation yeah for sure so taking part in in one of the ceremonies let's say you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever power you're paying your golden gets and trinkets it still is sort of funny it all goes back to Burroughs with the set in setting thing right which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set and setting we're going to do this so goes well for you so as this concoction is being brutal like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this in helping to mash it up and threw the T. but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show it's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and brokers on kind of the right things going and like what do you want to accomplish here would you want to find out about yourself what questions do you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket although I would recommend bringing your own yeah I hadn't thought about that I would not want to a re used bucket good lord I hadn't even considered that B. B. Y. O. B. for me so yeah the a yeah I can just totally see how as a as a westerner you would just be like come on we don't need the ceremony stuff it was just give me the good stuff right but the the like you said that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and and body prepared for this this enormous trip you're about to go on because if you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or without any kind of assistance you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well yeah I'm so that there is a big part of going on and I was good journey is is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you you need to be monitored you can't be up in like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are gonna happen to you yeah in that situation and then to help you afterward as well and from from some of the preliminary research that's starting to come in if you undertake an I. O..

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"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

13:08 min | 1 year ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"The N. T. which you mentioned that the on set the the the one part of this concoction the P. various contains the empty your pronounce that yes is dimethyl tryptamine fellow what could you imagine throws off the tongue now that it so this is something not exclusive to be it is it's found a bunch of psychedelic substances and this is something that can cause hallucinations perhaps changes in your perception your state of consciousness mmhm your sense of self which will really get into that has a lot to do with the I. what's good journey hi however if you just eat the DMT it's not gonna have that this kind of affect on you because there's an enzyme called monoamine oxidase mmhm and that's gonna break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed is you have to combine it with this copy mine which prevents the uptake of it yeah the copy vine has an alkaloid called harmala alkaloids and harmonies are separate psychotropic in and of themselves which is why the the copy buying alone used to just be I Oscar but the fact that it prevents your your the monoamine oxidase to break down the D. M. T. it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls although I hear it's not all of a sudden I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on and then it takes like a supplementary boost an hour or so later to to really bring on like the the the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take on Alaska yeah for sure so you've got that you've got the D. M. T. being absorbed that's the one two punch right you've got the DMT itself and then you've got the plant that allows the DM T. to be absorbed and when you put those two things together the P. veritest and the B. copy that's what the that's the idea was good that you read about vice that's what they're talking about yeah in these you know this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally as a shaman that knows what they're doing and they're sometimes our other plans that are brewed in there as well but not always and sometimes it's bird separately and then combine later sometimes it all depends on which shaman you go to of what the ritual is like sometimes you're included as part of it sometimes it's like a thick liquid T. sometimes it's a paste it's been described no matter what it is it seems like around the the horn everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that there you can very easily throw up which is something that's pretty common with the with an I. O. Oscar experiences I didn't get that from the from the taste though I know that was like once it's in your body it makes you nauseous and you throw up right but I like the stay so bad I'm going to pick it up no no because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed right yeah but yeah I think they taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up but that whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like a hundred percent you're going to throw up there the the point one of the points of an I. O. Oscar ceremony is to throw up your men to throw up and your do you will actually be forced into this either if you don't go from the I. O. Oscar you may also be given something like tobacco juice like a water with tobacco that soaks in it for a while in you'll be told to drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up for diary is a very frequent side effect of Iowa's very frequent do you are you are meant to be purging cure your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the the horrible mess that's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip in is this trip sets in yeah and the taste has been described the New York times is that it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from vox dot com to get a gun and Sean Eling he described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water right so I read I read it's almost as gross as a Necco wafer the only other internet go away for good on you have you know one of my crazy what are the don't go away for selling old timey kind of like chalky candy that comes in a role you see them probably you've seen them and my old timey candidates should exactly sure I did yeah so all right I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's oranges its origins in the napa river basin by this Renee tried like you said and it's called the vine of death of the mother vine this copy and they think that early on they may have just taken this copy by itself right right because the way down the brew it's got the hormones in it that's not only an MA I'd but also has like its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on so that was the original I Wasco yeah and we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to trying you know Christianize folks and trip balls yeah because I'm sure the entry was like whoa and that's it you hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary yes on seven a lease is Sentinel island yeah he he it is like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a Bible that he was holding apparently I had heard about that yet because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it instead he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an error was shot through it I'm like dude if that is not like if you believe in god that's a sign from god well you you remember the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them yeah they were the ones that you like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near him and did some fishermen have been killed like yours a few years back and this guy I guess had tried them he decided he was going to be the one yeah I don't actually know enough about the story but he clearly was trying to gain access to them yeah yeah he he was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid if you're not suppose it's illegal I think even trespass there yeah but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there and they did so in those people were arrested and his family saying you you need to let these people go because he like really wanted to do this I see three interesting yeah it is crazy but I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting an arrow through the Bible holding up right now so goals I tried but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds right when they went in there like me there's something going on down here that's very interesting yeah and even William S. Burroughs wrote the Yahi letters yeah in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the I. O. Oscar vine and apparently they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century they you could combine it with the P. Varanus right line in and have a completely different experience but that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony you could perform but the most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death right yeah and then at some point somebody started putting them together in word about this got out in the the mid two thousands is when it just I was feeling kind of hit the the public consciousness in in the west yeah I mean in the sixties of course in in certain you know subcultures in America they knew about it because of William S. Burroughs and people seeking out you know things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences but it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know not not too long ago and even still I think even of the time it was strictly the harm leans in and just the the vine that was being used to copy vine it was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the the veritest plant and that's when it became hugely popular yes so popular now that there is I was good tourism big time Mike going on in South America in said the central part is Peru's a room bomba valley and if you I mean if you were going down for an I. O. Oscar experience like a spiritual quest this was the reason you're going down there I don't fault you for that at all sure do you have to understand D. D. you have to do your research to show up in South America be like all right to make me smile Oscar because there are a lot of in scrupulous in the Far East outfits that have come up sure you to take advantage is explicitly owns that kind of western tourists the ill informed western tourists who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get the spiritual experience you're looking for so you have to do your research because there are some legitimate I Oscar outfits in South America but you they're they're not going to take you if you just show up down there and you're gonna end up in some some in a bad situation yeah for sure so taking part in in one of the ceremonies let's say you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever however you're paying your golden gets and trinkets it still is sort of funny it all goes back to Burroughs with the set in setting thing right which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set and setting we're going to do this so goes well for you so as this concoction is being brutal like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this in helping the mash it up and threw the T. but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show it's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and brokers on kind of the right things going in like what do you want to accomplish here would you want to find out about yourself what questions you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket although I would recommend bringing your own yeah I hadn't thought about that I would not want to a re used bucket good lord I hadn't even considered that B. B. Y. O. B. for me so yeah they are yeah I can just totally see how as a as a westerner you would just be like come on we don't need the ceremony so if it was just give me the good stuff right but the the like you said this the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and and body prepared for this this enormous trip you're about to go on because if you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with it out any kind of assistance you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well yeah I'm so that there is a big part of going on and I was good journey is is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic and willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you you need to be monitored you can't be up in like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are gonna happen to you yeah in that situation and then to help you afterward as well and from from some of the preliminary research that's starting to come in if you undertake an I. O. Oscar journey I guess is it with the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during and after it can have profound effects on your spirituality in your sense of connectedness to the universe it can also possibly help you with with diagnosed mental illness as well yeah we'll we'll get to the the illness part mental illness part at the end but just your standard is sort of truth seeker let's say okay it's very much tied into like what the N. ideal conditions and like the sixties and seventies with Ellis and goes beyond but the LSD experience in that does a lot of talk in the sixties about the ego and.

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

12:20 min | 1 year ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"The N. T. which you mentioned that the on set the the the one part of this concoction the P. various contains the empty you can pronounce that yes is dimethyl tryptamine fo look at you throws off the done now that it so this is something not exclusive to pee it is it's found a bunch of psychedelic substances and this is something that can cause hallucinations perhaps changes in your perception your state of consciousness your sense of self which will really get into that has a lot to do with the I. what's good journey hi however if you just eat the DMT it's not gonna have that this kind of effect on you because there's an enzyme called monoamine oxidase and that's gonna break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed is you have to combine it with this copy vine which prevents the uptake of it yeah the copy vine has an alkaloid called harmala alkaloids and harmonies are separate psychotropic in and of themselves which is why the the copy buying alone used to just be I Oscar but the fact that it prevents you're you're the monoamine oxidase to break down the D. M. T. it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls although I hear it's not all of a sudden I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on and then it takes like a supplementary boost an hour or so later to to really bring on like the the the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take I. O. Oscar yeah for sure so you've got that you've got the D. M. T. being absorbed that's the one two punch right you've got the DMT itself and then you've got the plant that allows the DM T. to be absorbed and when you put those two things together the P. veritest and the B. copy that's what the that's the I. O. Oscar that you read about advice that's what they're talking about yeah in these you know this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally as a shaman that knows what they're doing and they're sometimes our other plans that are brewed in there as well but not always and sometimes it's bird separately and then combine later sometimes it all depends on which shaman you go to of what the ritual is like sometimes you're included as part of it sometimes it's like a thick liquid team sometimes it's a paste it's been described no matter what it is it seems like around the the horn everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that that you can very easily throw up which is something that's pretty common with the with an I. O. Oscar experiences I didn't get that from the from the taste though I know that was like once it's in your body it makes you nauseous and you throw up right but like other states so bad and if you get up no no because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed right yeah but you I think they taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up but that whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like a hundred percent you're going to throw up there the the point one of the points of an I. O. Oscar ceremony is to throw up you're meant to throw up in your view will actually be forced into this either if you don't do it from the I. O. Oscar you may also be given something like tobacco juice like a water with tobacco that soaks in it for a while in you'll be told to drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up board diary is a very frequent side effect of Iowa's very frequent do you are you are meant to be purging cure your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the the horrible mess that's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip in is this trip sets in yeah and the taste has been described the New York times is that it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from box dot com to get a gun and Sean Eling he described it as a couple of motor oil diluted with a splash of water right so I read I read it's almost as gross as the Necco wafer on the other had a neck away for good on you have you know one of my crazy what are they no go away for his sterling old timey kind of like chalky candy that comes in a role you see them probably you've seen them and my old timey candidacy exactly sure I did yeah so all right I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's oranges its origins in the napa river basin by this Renee tried like you said and it's called the vine of death of the mother vine this copy and they think that early on they may have just taken this copy by itself right right because it going down the brew it's got the hormones in it that's not only an MA I'd but also has like its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on so that was the original I Oscar yeah and we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to try and you know Christian nice folks and trip balls yeah because I'm sure the entry was like whoa and that's it the guy that was just killed the missionary yes on seven a lease is Sentinel island yeah he he it is like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a Bible that he was holding apparently I had heard about that yeah because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it instead he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an error was shot through it I'm like dude if that is not like if you believe in god that's a sign from god well you you remember the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them yeah they were the ones that like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near him and there's some fishermen have been killed like yours a few years back and this guy I guess had tried them he decided he was going to be the one yeah I don't actually know enough about the story but he clearly was trying to gain access to them yeah yeah he he was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid if you're not suppose it's illegal I think even trespass there yeah but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there and they did so in those people were arrested and his family saying you you need to let these people go because he like really wanted to do this I see interesting yeah it is crazy but I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting an arrow through the Bible holding up right now so goals I tried but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds right when they went in there like main there's something going on down here that's very interesting yeah and even William S. Burroughs wrote the ya Hey letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the I. O. Oscar vine and apparently they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century they you could combine it with the Aratus right line in and have a completely different experience but that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony you could perform but the most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death right yeah and then at some point somebody started putting them together in word about this got out in the the mid two thousands is when it just I was feeling kind of hit the the public consciousness in in the west yeah I mean in the sixties of course in in certain you know subcultures in America they knew about it because of William S. Burroughs and people seeking out you know things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences but it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know not not too long ago and even still I think even of the time it was strictly the harm leans in and just the the vine that was being used the copy vine it was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the the veritest plant and that's when it became hugely popular yes so popular now that there is I was good tourism big time Mike going on in South America in said the central part is Peru's a room bomba valley and if you I mean if you were going down for an I. O. Oscar experience like a spiritual quest this was the reason you're going down there I don't fault you for that at all sure do you have to understand Dee Dee you have to do your research you can't just show up in South America be like all right to make me smile Oscar because there are a lot of in scrupulous in the Far East outfits that have come up sure you to take advantage explicitly owns that kind of western tourists the ill informed western tourists who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get the spiritual experience you're looking for so you have to do your research because there are some legitimate I Oscar outfits in South America but you there and you're not going to take you if you just show up down there you're gonna end up in some some in a bad situation yeah for sure so taking part in in one of the ceremonies let's say you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever your golden gets and trinkets it stills it's sort of funny it all goes back to Burroughs with the set in setting thing right which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set and setting we're going to do this so goes well for you so as this concoction is being brutal like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this in helping the mash it up and threw the T. but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show it's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and broke us on kind of the right things going in like what do you want to accomplish here would you want to find out about yourself what questions do you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket although I would recommend bringing your own yeah I hadn't thought about that I would not want to a re used bucket good lord I hadn't even considered that B. B. Y. O. B. for me so yeah they are yeah I can just totally see how as a as a westerner you would just be like come on we don't need the ceremony syphilis just give me the good stuff right but the the like you said that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and and body prepared for this this enormous trip you're about to go on because if you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or without any kind of assistance you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well yeah so that there is a big part of going on and I was good journey is is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you you need to be monitored you can't be up in like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are gonna happen to you yeah in that situation and then to help you afterward as well and from from some of the preliminary research that's starting to come in if you undertake an I. O..

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"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

13:37 min | 1 year ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"N. T. which you mentioned that the on set the the the one part of this concoction the P. very this contains the empty you can pronounce that yes is dimethyl tryptamine fo what could you even throws off the tongue now that it so this is something not exclusive to be this is found in a bunch of psychedelic substances and this is something that can cause hallucinations perhaps changes in your perception your state of consciousness your sense of self which will really get into that has a lot to do with the I. what's good journey hi however if you just eat the DMT it's not gonna have that this kind of effect on you because there's an enzyme called monoamine oxidase and that's gonna break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed is you have to combine it with this copy vine which prevents the uptake of it yeah the copy vine has an alkaloid called harmala alkaloids and harmonies are separate psychotropic in and of themselves which is why the the copy buying alone used to just be I osca but the fact that it prevents you're you're the monoamine oxidase to break down the D. M. T. it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls although I hear it's not all of a sudden I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on and then it takes like a supplementary boost an hour or so later to to really bring on like the the the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take I. O. Oscar yeah so you've got that you've got the D. M. T. being absorbed that's the one two punch right you've got the DMT itself and then you've got the plant that allows the DM T. to be absorbed and when you put those two things together the P. veritest and the B. copy that's what the that's the I. O. Oscar that you read about vice that's what they're talking about yeah in these you know this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally as a shaman that knows what they're doing and they're sometimes our other plans that are brewed in there as well but not always and sometimes it's brewed separately and then combine later sometimes it all depends on which shaman you go to of what the ritual is like sometimes you're included as part of it sometimes it's like a thick liquid T. sometimes it's a paste it's been described no matter what it is it seems like around the the horn everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that that you can very easily throw up which is something that's pretty common with the with an I. O. Oscar experiences I didn't get that from the from the taste though I know that was like once it's in your body it makes you nauseous and you throw up right but not like other states so bad I'm going to pick it up no no because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed right yeah but yeah I think they taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up but that whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like a hundred percent you're going to throw up there the the point one of the points of an I. O. Oscar ceremony is to throw up your men to throw up and your do you will actually be forced into this either if you don't do it from the I. O. Oscar you may also be given something like tobacco juice like a water with tobacco that soaks in it for awhile in you'll be told to drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up for diary is a very frequent side effect of Iowa's very frequent do you are you are meant to be purging cure your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the horrible mess that's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip and as his trip sets in yeah and the the taste has been described the New York times is that it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from box dot com to get a gun and Sean Eling he described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water right so I read I read it's almost as gross as a Necco wafer when the other had a neck away for good on you have you know one of my crazy what are they don't go away for sterling old timey kind of like chalky candy comes in a role you see them probably you've seen them and my old timey candidacy exactly sure I did yeah so all right I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's oranges its origins in the napa river basin by this Renee tried like you said and it's called the vine of death of the mother vine this copy and they think that early on they may have just taken this copy by itself right right because the way down the brew it's got the hormones in it that's not only an MA I'd but also has like its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on so that was the original I Oscar yeah and we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to trying you know Christianize folks and trip balls yeah because I'm sure the entry was like whoa and that's it the guy that was just killed the missionary yes on seven a lease his Sentinel island yeah he he it is like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a Bible that he was holding apparently I had heard about that yeah because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it instead he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an error was shot through it I'm like dude if that is not like if you believe in god that's a sign from god well you you remember in the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them yeah they were the ones that you like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near him and did some fishermen have been killed like years a few years back and this guy I guess had tried them he decided he was going to be the one yeah I don't actually know enough about the story but he clearly was trying to gain access to them yeah yeah he he was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid if you're not suppose it's illegal I think even trespass there yeah but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there and they did so in those people were arrested and his family saying you you need to let these people go because he like really wanted to do this I see very interesting yeah it is crazy but I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting an arrow through the Bible holding up right now so goals I try but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds right when they went in there like me there's something going on down here that's very interesting yeah and even William S. Burroughs wrote the ya Hey letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the I. O. Oscar vine and apparently they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century there you could combine it with the P. veritest right line in and have a completely different experience but that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony you could perform but the most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death right yeah and then at some point somebody started putting them together and word about this got out in the the mid two thousands is when it just I was feeling kind of hit the the public consciousness in in the west yeah I mean in the sixties of course in in certain you know subcultures in America they knew about it because of William S. Burroughs and people seeking out you know things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences but it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know not not too long ago and even still I think even of the time it was strictly the harm leans in and just the the vine that was being used the copy vine it was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the the veritest plant and that's when it became hugely popular yes so popular now that there is I was good tourism big time Mike going on in South America in said the central part is Peru's a room bomba valley and if you I mean if you were going down for an I. O. Oscar experience like a spiritual quest is what is the reason you're going down there I don't fault you for that at all sure do you have to understand the the you have to do your research to show up in South America be like all right to make me smile Oscar because there are a lot of in scrupulous in the Far East outfits that have come up sure you to take advantage explicitly owns that kind of western tourists the ill informed western tourists who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get the spiritual experience you're looking for so you have to do your research because there are some legitimate I Oscar outfits in South America but you they're they're not going to take you if you just show up down there you're gonna end up in some some in a bad situation yeah for sure so taking part in in one of the ceremonies let's say you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever however you're paying your golden gets and trinkets it still is sort of funny it all goes back to Burroughs with the set in setting thing right which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set and setting we're going to do this so goes well for you so as this concoction is being brutal like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this in helping to mash it up and threw the T. but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show it's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and broke us on kind of the right things going in like what do you want to accomplish here would you want to find out about yourself what questions you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket although I would recommend bringing your own yeah I hadn't thought about that I would not want to a re used bucket good lord I hadn't even considered that B. B. Y. O. B. for me so yeah they are yeah I can just totally see how as a as a westerner you would just be like come on we don't need the ceremony so if it was just give me the good stuff right but the the like you said this the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and body prepared for this this enormous trip you're about to go on because if you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with it out any kind of assistance you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well yeah I'm so that there is a big part of going on an I. O. Oscar journey is is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you you need to be monitored you can't be up in like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are gonna happen to you yeah in that situation and then to help you afterward as well and from from some of the preliminary research that's starting to come in if you undertake an I. O. Oscar journey I guess is it with the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during and after it can have profound effects on your spirituality in your sense of connectedness to the universe it can also possibly help you with with diagnosed mental illness as well yeah we'll we'll get to the the bill must part mental illness part at the end but just your standard is sort of truth seeker let's say okay it's very much tied into like what the in ideal conditions and like the sixties and seventies with Ellis and guess beyond but the LSD experience and that there was a lot of talk in the sixties about the ego and every you know hip musician and and the United States talked about stripping away the ego for Brian Wilson to the Mamas and the Papas to you know Neil Young is stripping away that you go of yourself basically which which means kind of getting outside yourself to the point where you're not looking at the world around you and how it affects you but there there is no you there.

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"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

13:19 min | 2 years ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"The anti which you mentioned that the on set the the the one part of this concoction the P. very this teens DMT you can pronounce that yes is dimethyl tryptamine flow what could you even throws off the done now that it so this is something not exclusive to be veritest it's found a bunch of psychedelic substances and this is something that can cause hallucinations perhaps changes in your perception your state of consciousness your sense of self which will really get into that has a lot to do with the I. what's good journey right however if you just eat the DMT it's not gonna have that this kind of affect on you because there's an enzyme called monoamine oxidase and that's gonna break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed is you have to combine it with this copy mine which prevents the uptake of it yeah the copy vine has an alkaloid called harmala alkaloids in horror movies are separate psychotropic in and of themselves which is why the the copy vine alone used to just be I Oscar but the fact that it prevents you're you're the monoamine oxidase to break down the D. M. T. it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls although I hear it's not all of a sudden I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on and then it takes like a supplementary boost an hour or so later to to really bring on like the the the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take I Alaska yeah for sure so you've got that you've got the D. M. T. being absorbed that's the one two punch right you've got the DMT itself and then you've got the plant that allows the DM T. to be absorbed and when you put those two things together the P. veritest and the B. copy that's what the that's the I. O. Oscar that you read about advice that's what they're talking about yeah in these you know this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally as a shaman that knows what they're doing and they're sometimes our other plans that are brewed in there as well but not always and sometimes it's bird separately and then combine later sometimes it all depends on which shaman you go to of what the ritual is like sometimes you're included as part of it sometimes it's like a thick liquid T. sometimes it's a paste it's been described no matter what it is it seems like around the the horn everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that that you can very easily throw up which is something that's pretty common with the with an I. O. Oscar experiences I didn't get that from the from the taste though I know that was like once it's in your body it makes you nauseous and you throw up right but like other states so bad I'm going to pick it up no no because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed right yeah but you I think they taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up but that whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like a hundred percent you're going to throw up there the the point one of the points of an I. O. Oscar ceremony is to throw up you're meant to throw up and your do you will actually be forced into this either if you don't do it from the I. O. Oscar you may also be given something like tobacco juice like a water with tobacco that soaked in it for a while in you'll be told to drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up for diary is a very frequent side effect of Iowa's very frequent do you are you are meant to be purging cure your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the horrible mess that's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip in and is this trip sets in yeah the taste has been described The New York Times is that it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from box dot com to get a gun and Sean Eling he described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water right so I read I read it's almost as gross is a Necco wafer when the other had a neck away for good on you have you know one of my crazy what are they now go away for selling old timey kind of like chalky candy that comes in a role you see them probably you've seen them and my old timey candidacy exactly sure I did yeah so all right I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's orange it its origins in the napa river basin by this Renee tried like you said and it's called the vine of death of the mother vine this copy and they think that early on they may have just taken this copy by itself right right because the way down the brew it's got the hormones in it that's not only an MA I'd but also has like its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on so that was the original I Oscar yeah and we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to trying you know Christianize folks and trip balls yeah because I'm sure the entry was like whoa and that's it the guy that was just killed the missionary yes on seven a lease his Sentinel island yeah he he it is like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a Bible that he was holding apparently I had heard about that yeah because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it instead he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an error was shot through it I'm like dude if that is not like if you believe in god that's a sign from god well you you remember in the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them yeah they were the ones that you like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near him and did some fishermen have been killed like yours a few years back and this guy I guess had tried them he decided he was going to be the one yeah I don't actually know enough about the story but he clearly was trying to gain access to them yeah yeah he he was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid like if you're not suppose it's illegal I think even trespass there yeah but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there and they did so in those people were arrested and his family saying you you need to let these people go because he like really wanted to do this I see three interesting yeah it is crazy but I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting an arrow through the Bible holding up right now so yells I try but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds right when they went in there like Hey there's something going on down here that's very interesting yeah and even William S. Burroughs wrote the ya Hey letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the I. O. Oscar vine and apparently the the practitioners of the time new well into the to the the twentieth century they you could combine it with the P. veritest right line in and have a completely different experience but that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony you could perform but the most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death right yeah and then at some point somebody started putting them together and worried about this got out in the the mid two thousands is when it just I was feeling kind of hit the the public consciousness in in the west yeah I mean in the sixties of course in in certain you know subcultures in America they knew about it because of William S. Burroughs and people seeking out you know things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences but it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know not not too long ago and even still I think even of the time it was strictly the harm leans in and just the the vine that was being used the copy vine it was it it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the the veritest plant and that's when it became hugely popular yes so popular now that there is I was good tourism big time Mike going on in South America in said the central part is Peru's a room bomba valley and if you I mean if you were going down for an I. O. Oscar experience like a spiritual quest is was the reason you're going down there I don't fault you for that at all sure do you have to understand the D. you have to do your research to show up in South America be like all right to make me smile Oscar because there are a lot of in scrupulous in the Far East outfits that have come up sure you to take advantage is explicitly owns that kind of western tourists the ill informed western tourists who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get the spiritual experience you're looking for so you have to do your research because there are some legitimate I Oscar outfits in South America but you intern you're not going to take you for you to show up down there you're gonna end up in some some in a bad situation yeah for sure so taking part in in one of the ceremonies let's say you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever however you're paying your golden gets and trinkets it stills it's sort of funny it all goes back to Burroughs with the set in setting thing right which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set and setting we're going to do this so goes well for you so as this concoction is being brutal like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this in helping the mash it up and brew the T. but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show it's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and wrote just on kind of the right things going in like what do you want to accomplish your what you want to find out about yourself what questions you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket although I would recommend bringing your own yeah I hadn't thought about that I would not want to a re used bucket good lord I hadn't even considered that B. B. Y. O. B. for me so yeah they are yeah I can just totally see how as a as a westerner you would just be like come on we don't need the ceremony so if it was just give me the good stuff right but the the like you said that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and and body prepared for this this enormous trip you're about to go on because if you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with it out any kind of assistance you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well yeah so that there is a big part of going on an I. O. Oscar journey is is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you you need to be monitored you can't be up in like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are gonna happen to you yeah in that situation and then to help you afterward as well and from from some of the preliminary research that's starting to come in if you undertake an I. O. Oscar journey I guess is it with the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during and after it can have profound effects on your spirituality in your sense of connectedness to the universe it can also possibly help you with with diagnosed mental illness as well yeah we'll we'll get to the the bill must part mental illness part at the end but just your standard is sort of truth seeker let's say okay it's very much tied into like what the in ideal conditions and like the sixties and seventies with Ellis and guess beyond but the LSD experience in that there's a lot of talk in the sixties about the ego and every you know hip musician and and the United States talked about stripping away the ego for Brian Wilson to the Mamas and the Papas to you know.

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12:45 min | 2 years ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

"The N. T. which you mentioned that the on set the the the one part of this concoction the P. very this contains the empty you can pronounce that yes is dimethyl tryptamine fellow what could you even throws off the done now that it so this is something not exclusive to be veritest it's found a bunch of psychedelic substances and this is something that can cause hallucinations perhaps changes in your perception your state of consciousness your sense of self which will really get into that has a lot to do with the I. what's good journey hi however if you just eat the DMT it's not gonna have that this kind of effect on you because there's an enzyme called monoamine oxidase and that's gonna break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed we have to combine that with this copy mine which prevents the uptake of it yeah the copy vine has an alkaloid called harmala alkaloids informally ins are separate psychotropic in and of themselves which is why the the copy vying alone used to just be I Oscar but the fact that it prevents you're you're the monoamine oxidase to break down the D. M. T. it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls although I hear it's not all of a sudden I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on and then it takes like a supplementary boost an hour or so later to to really bring on like the the the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take on Alaska yeah for sure so you've got that you've got the D. M. T. being absorbed that's the one two punch right you've got the DMT itself and then you've got the plant that allows the DM T. to be absorbed and when you put those two things together the P. veritest and the B. copy that's what the that's the IRA was good that you read about advice that's what they're talking about yeah in these you know this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally as a shaman that knows what they're doing and they're sometimes our other plants that are brewed in there as well but not always and sometimes it's bird separately and then combine later sometimes it all depends on which shaman you go to of what the ritual is like sometimes you're included as part of it sometimes it's like a thick liquid teens sometimes it's a paste it's been described no matter what it is it seems like around the the horn everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that they you can very easily throw up which is something that's pretty common with the with an I. O. Oscar experiences I didn't get that from the from the taste though I know that was like once it's in your body it makes you nauseous and you throw up right but like other states so bad and if you get up no no because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed right yeah but yeah I think they taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up but that whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like a hundred percent you're going to throw up there the the point one of the points of an I. O. Oscar ceremony is to throw up you're meant to throw up and your the will actually be forced into this either if you don't go from the I. O. Oscar you may also be given something like tobacco juice like a water with tobacco that soaks in it for a while in you'll be told to drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up for diary is a very frequent side effect of Iowa's very frequent do you are you are meant to be purging cure your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the the horrible mess that's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip and as the trips that soon yeah and the taste has been described the New York times is that it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from vox dot com to get a gun and Sean Elling he described it as a couple of motor oil diluted with a splash of water right so I read I read it's almost as gross as a Necco wafer on the other hand and they go away for good on you have you know one of my crazy what are the now go away for sterling old timey kind of like chalky candy comes in a role you see them probably you've seen them and my old timey candidacy exactly sure I did yeah so all right I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's oranges its origins in the napa river basin by this Renee tried like you said and it's called the vine of death of the mother vine this copy and they think that early on they may have just taken this copy by itself right right because it was on the brew it's got the hormones in it that's not only an MA I'd but also has like its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on so that was the original I Oscar yeah and we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to train you know Christian nice folks and trip balls here because I'm sure the entry was like whoa and that's it the guy that was just killed the missionary yes on seven a lease his Sentinel island yeah he he it is like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a Bible that he was holding apparently I had heard about that yet because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it instead he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an error was shot through it I'm like dude if that is not like if you believe in god that's a sign from god well you you remember the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them yeah they were the ones that you like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near him and did some fishermen have been killed like yours a few years back and this guy I guess had tried them he decided he was going to be the one yeah I don't actually know enough about the story but he clearly was trying to gain access to them yeah yeah he he was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid if you're not suppose it's illegal I think even trespass there yeah but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there and they did so in those people were arrested and his family saying you need to let these people go because he like really wanted to do this I see interesting yeah it is crazy but I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting an arrow through the Bible holding up right now so yells I tried but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds right when they went in there like me there's something going on down here that's very interesting yeah and even William S. Burroughs wrote the ya Hey letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the I. O. Oscar vine and apparently the the practitioners of the time new well into the to the the twentieth century they you could combine it with the Everett S. right mine in and have a completely different experience but that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony you could perform but the most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death right yeah and then at some point somebody started putting them together in word about this got out in the the mid two thousands is when it just I was feeling kind of hit the the public consciousness in in the west yeah I mean in the sixties of course in in certain you know subcultures in America they knew about it because of William S. Burroughs and people seeking out you know things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences but it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know not not too long ago and even still I think even of the time it was strictly the harm leans in and just the the vine that was being used the copy vine it was it it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the the veritest plant and that's when it became hugely popular yes so popular now that there is I was good tourism big time Mike going on in South America in said the central part is Peru's a room bomba valley and if you I mean if you were going down for an I. O. Oscar experience like a spiritual quest this was the reason you're going down there I don't fault you for that at all sure do you have to understand Dee Dee you have to do your research to show up in South America be like all right to make me smile Oscar because there are a lot of in scrupulous in the Far East outfits that have come up sure you to take advantage is explicitly owns that kind of western tourists the ill informed western tourists who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get the spiritual experience you're looking for so you have to do your research because there are some legitimate I Oscar outfits in South America but you intern you're not going to take you if you just show up down there you're gonna end up in some some in a bad situation yeah for sure so taking part in in one of the ceremonies let's say you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever however you're paying your golden gets and trinkets it instills it's sort of funny it all goes back to Burroughs with the set in setting thing right which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set and setting we're going to do this so goes well for you so as this concoction is being brutal like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this in helping to mash it up in brew the T. but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show it's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and wrote just on kind of the right things going in like what do you want to accomplish here would you want to find out about yourself what questions you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket although I would recommend bringing your own yeah I hadn't thought about that I would not want to a re used bucket good lord I hadn't even considered that B. B. Y. O. B. for me so yeah they are yeah I can just totally see how as a as a westerner you would just be like come on we don't need the ceremony syphilis could give me the good stuff right but that like you said this the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and and body prepared for this this enormous trip you're about to go on because if you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or without any kind of assistance you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well yeah I'm so that there is a big part of going on an I. O. Oscar journey is is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you you need to be monitored you can't be up in like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are gonna happen to you yeah in that situation and then to help you afterward as well and from from some of the preliminary research that's starting to come in if you undertake an I. O. Oscar journey I guess is it with the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during and after they can have profound effects on your spirituality in your sense of connectedness to the universe it can also possibly help you with with diagnose mental illness as well yeah we'll we'll get to the.

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12:39 min | 2 years ago

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"All right. So DMP which you mentioned at the onset, the, the, the one part of this, concoction, the P Veritas contains DM t to pronounce that. Oh, yes, it's Di methyl trip to me. Oh, could you just rolls off the tongue? Now. Doesn't it? So this is something not exclusive to P Veritas. It's found in a bunch of psychedelic substances in this is something that can cause loosens perhaps changes in your perception, your state of consciousness, your sense of self which will really get into it has a lot to do with the Oscar journey. However, if you just eat the DM t-, it's not going to have this kind of affect on you because there's an enzyme called mono Amine oxidise, and that's going to break down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed. See have to combine it with this copy vine, which prevents the uptake of it. Yeah, the copy vine has an alkaloid call. The harm all alkaloid and harm lanes are Saipa psychotropic in and of themselves, which is why the, the copy vine alone used to just be Iowa ska. But the fact that it prevents you're, you're the mono Amine Ossetia's to break down the DM, t it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden your trip in balls. Although I hear it's not all of a sudden, I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on. And then it takes a supplementary boost an hour. So. So later to, to really bring on, like, the, the kind of transcendent experience, that people are looking for when they take us go. Yeah. For sure. So you've got the you've got the DM t being absorbed. That's the one two punch. You've got the DM t- itself. And then you've got the plant that allows the DM t to be absorbed in when you put those two things together the P Varietes and the b- copy. That's what the that's the Iowa that you read about vice. That's what they're talking about. Yeah. In these, you know, this is administered by a shaman, someone who ideally, as shaman that knows what they're doing. And there's sometimes there are other plants that are brewed in there as well, but not always, and sometimes it's separately, and then combined later. Sometimes it all depends on, which shaman you go to what the ritual is, like, sometimes you're included as part of it, sometimes it's like a thick liquid t-. Sometimes it's a paste, it's been. Scribe no matter what it is. It seems like around the horn. Everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that, that you can very easily throw up, which is something that's pretty common with, with the Nyawosa experiences. I didn't get that from the from the taste though. That was like, once it's in your body. It makes you nauseous and you throw up. Right. But like, oh, this tastes bad. I'm gonna puke it up. No. Because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed. Right. Yeah. But I think the taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up. But the whether whether you do throw it for not it's not necessarily like hundred percent you're going to throw up there. The point one of the points of an Iowa ceremony is to throw up your meant to throw up and you're, you will actually be forced into this either. If you don't do it from the Iowa, ska, you may also be given something like tobacco juice. Like a water with tobacco. That's soaked in it for a while. And you'll be told the drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging, whether it's throwing up or diarrheas, very frequent side, effective, Iowa, very frequent, you are, you are meant to be purging your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the, the horrible nece, that's part of you getting it out as part of the trip as trip sets in. Yeah. In the taste has been described the New York Times said it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from vox dot com took it a guy named Sean Illing. He described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water. Right. So I read, I read it's almost as gross as Nikko wafer. Nikko wafer. Good on you have, you know what am I crazy? What are they go away? For like old timey kind of like chalky candy comes in a role. You seen them probably you've seen them, and my old, timey candidateship, exactly. Sure. I did. So. All right. I guess we should talk a little bit about. Like you said, it's orange is origins in the Napa river basin by this Ruina tribe, like you said, and it's called the vine of death or the mother vine this copy. And they think that early on, they may have just taken this copy by itself. Right. Right. Because the brew it's got the hormones in it. That's not only an M A O, but also has its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on. So that was the original Wasco. Yeah. And we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits with go to the Amazon to try, you know, Christian is folks and trip balls, because I'm sure the entry was like, whoa. And that's it. Hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary. Yes. On senegalese. The sentinel island. Yeah. He. It's like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a bible that he was holding apparently. I hadn't heard about that because he had he went back a few times, and it was like journaling about it and said, he basically like held up his bibles like some movie and an era was shot through it. And like dude if that is not like if you believe in God, that's a sign from God. Well, you remember the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them. They were the ones that like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near them. And some fishermen had been killed like years few years back, and this guy, I guess had tried he decided he was going to be the one. Yeah. I don't actually know enough about the story, but he clearly was trying to gain access to them. Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to spread the word of Jesus paid like you're not supposed. It's illegal to even trespass there, but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there, and they did. So in those people were arrested and his family saying you need to let these people go because he like, really? Wanted to do this. I see three interesting. Yeah, it is crazy. But I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting ERO through the bible. Sidetrack. But we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds when they went in there, like, hey, there's something going on down here. That's very interesting. Yeah. In even William Burroughs wrote the letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the Iowa divine in apparently the practitioners at the time, new well into the to the, the twentieth century that you could combine it with the p Varietes in have a completely different experience. But that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony. You could perform for the most the most widespread and traditional ceremony was just the vine of death right? Yeah. And then at some point, somebody started putting them together in word about this God out in the mid two thousand is when it just I- Awasa kind of hit the public, conscious. Business in the west. Yeah. I mean, in the sixties, of course, in, in certain, you know, subcultures in America, they knew about it because of Williams boroughs and people seeking out. You know, things like peyote in all kinds of psychedelic experiences. But it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know, not not too long ago, and even still, I think even at the time it was strictly, the harm liens, and just, the, the vine that was being used the copy vine, it was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the, the Beretta's plant in, that's when it became hugely popular. Yes. So popular now that there is Iowa. Tourism, big time like going on in South America. In said, the central part is Peru's room Bomba valley. And if you I mean, if you're going down for an Iowa ska expr-. Like a spiritual quest is, is the reason you're going down there. I don't fault you for that at all. Sure. The you have to understand the you have to do your research can't to show up in South America and be like, all right. Give me some Iowa ska because there are a lot of insecurity Lous in nefarious outfits that have come up to take advantage explicitly of that kind of western tourists. The ill-informed, western tourists who is going to have a horrible, terrible trip and not going to get the spiritual experience. You're looking for so you have to do your research, because there are some legitimate, I scout fits in South America. But you they're, they're not going to take you just show up down there and you're going to end up in some, some in a bad situation. Yeah. For sure. So taking part in, in one of these ceremonies. Let's say you do find like a legit shaman, who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever. However, you're paying. Your gold ingots and trinkets. It's still, it's sort of funny. It all goes back to Burroughs with the set and setting thing, which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set in the setting where you're going to do this as well for you. So as this concoction is being brewed, like I said before, sometimes you're taking part in this in helping to mash it up and brew t-, but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show. It's, it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and focused on kind of the right things going in. Like what do you want to accomplish here? What you want to find out about yourself. What questions do you have about yourself and really get into that, that frame of mind as they hand, you your puke bucket, although I would recommend bringing your own. Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought about that. I wouldn't one reused puke. Bucket lord. I hadn't even considered that it'd be for me. So, yeah. I can just totally see how as a as a westerner, you would just be like, come on. We don't need the ceremony stuff. Give me the good stuff. Right. But like you said, that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and body prepared for this enormous trip. You're about to go on, because if you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with out any kind of assistance, you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well, yeah. So that is a big part of going on in Iowa journey is, is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you, you need to be monitored. You can't be up like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are going to happen to you in that situation and then to help you afterward, as well. And from from some of the preliminary research that starting to come in, if you undertake in Iowa ska journey, I guess it was the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during and after it can have profound effects on your spirituality, and your sense of connectedness to the universe..

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14:42 min | 2 years ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"All right. So DM t-, which you mentioned at the onset, the, the, the one part of this, concoction, the P Veritas contains DM t-. You're to pronounce that. Oh, yes. It's Di methyl trip to meet info, could you just rolls off the tongue? Now, doesn't it? So this is something not exclusive to P Veritas. It's founded a bunch of psychedelic substances in this is something that can cause hallucinations perhaps changes in your perception. Your state of consciousness, your sense of self which will really get into it has a lot to do with the Iowa journey. However, if you just the DM, t it's not going to have this kind of affect on you because there's an enzyme called mono. Amine oxidise and that's going to break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed. See have to combine it with this copy vine, which prevents the uptake of it. Yeah, the copy vine has an alkaloid call. The harm all alkaloid and harm liens are Cyprus psychotropic, and of themselves, which is why the, the copy vine alone used to just be Iowa ska. But the fact that it prevents your. You're the mono Amine oxidation to break down the DM, t it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls. Although I hear it's not all of a sudden, I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on, and then it takes a supplementary boost. An hour or so later to, to really bring on the, the kind of transcendent experience, people are looking for when they take Wasco. Yeah. For sure. So you've got you've got the DM t being absorbed. That's the one two punch. Right. You've got the DM itself, and then you've got the plant that allows the DM t to be absorbed in when you put those two things together, the P Varietes and the b- copy. That's what the that's the Iowa that you read about vice. That's what they're talking about. Yeah. In these, you know, this is administered by a shaman, someone who ideally, as shaman that knows what they're doing. And there's sometimes there are other plants that are brewed in there as well, but not always, and sometimes it's separately, and then combined later. Sometimes it all depends on, which shaman you go to of what the ritual is like, sometimes you're included as part of it, sometimes it's like a thick liquid t- sometimes it's a paste, it's been described, no matter what it is. It seems like around the, the horn everybody says it tastes awful so awful that that you can very easily through. Yup. Which is something that's pretty common with, with the Nyawosa experiences. I didn't get that from the from the taste though. That was like, once it's in your body. It makes you nauseous and you throw up. Right. But, like, oh, this tastes so bad. I'm gonna puke it up. No. Because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed. Right. Yeah. But I think the taste and the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up. But the whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like hundred percent. You're going to throw up there. The point one of the points of Iowa ceremony is to throw up your meant to throw up. And you're, you will actually be forced into this either. If you don't do it from the Iowa, ska, you may also be given something like tobacco juice, like a water with tobacco soaks in it for awhile, and you'll be told the drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging, whether it's throwing up or diarrheas, very frequent side, effective, Iowa, very frequent, you are, you are meant to be purging your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the, the horrible nece that's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip as trip sets in. Yeah. In the taste has been described the New York Times said it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from vox dot com took it a guy named Sean Illing. He described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water. Right. So I read I read it's all. Most as grosses a neck. Oh, wafer. Nikko wafer. Good on you have, you know what am I crazy? What are they go away? For like old timey kind of like chalky candy comes in a role. You seen them probably you've seen them in my old. Timey candidateship. Exactly. Sure. I did. So. All right. I guess we should talk a little bit about. Like you said, it's orange origins. In the Napa river basin by this Ruina, tribe, like you said. And it's called the vine of death or the mother vine this copy. And they think that early on, they may have just taken this copy by itself. Right. Right. Because the brew it's got the harm lanes in it. That's not only an M A O, but also has its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on. So that was the original Wasco. Yeah. And we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to try, you know, Christian is folks and trip balls. Because I'm sure the entry was like, whoa. And that's it. You hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary. Yes. On senegalese. The sentinel island. Yeah. He. Like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a bible that he was holding apparently. I hadn't heard about that. Yeah because he had he went back a few times, and it was like journaling about it. Instead. He basically like held up his bibles like some movie in an era was shot through it. And like dude that is not like if you believe in God, that's a sign from God. Well, you remember the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them. Yeah. They were the ones that like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near them. And some fishermen had been killed like years, a few years back. And this guy, I guess had tried them. He decided he was going to be the one. I don't actually know enough about the story, but he clearly was trying to gain access to them. Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to spread the word of Jesus paid like you're not supposed. It's illegal. I think even trespass there, but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there, and they did. So in those people were arrested and his family saying you need to let these people go because he really wanted to do. This three interesting. Yeah, it is crazy. But I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting ERO through the bible, building up right now. Oh, so we got a little sidetracked, but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen. Hundreds, right. When they went in there, like, hey, there's something going on down here. That's very interesting. Yeah. In even Williams, Burroughs wrote the Yahoo letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the Iowa ska vine. And apparently they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century that you could combine it with the p Varietes in have a completely different experience. But that wasn't necessarily the point that was like in optional ceremony, you could perform for the most the most widespread and traditional ceremony was just divine of death right? Yeah. And then at some point, somebody started putting them together in word about this. God out in the mid two thousand is when it just I- Wasco like kind of hit the public consciousness in the west. Yeah. I mean, in the sixties, of course, in, in certain subcultures in America, they knew about it because of Williams boroughs and people seeking out. You know, things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences. But it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know, not not too long ago, and even still, I think even at the time it was strictly, the harm liens, and just, the, the vine that was being used the copy vine, it was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the, the Beretta's plant in, that's when it became hugely popular. Yes. So popular now that there is I Awadh tourism, big time like going on in South America. In said the central part is Peru's roomba valley. And if you I mean, if you're going down for an Iowa experience like a spiritual. Quest is, is the reason you're going down there. I don't fault you for that at all. Sure. The you have to understand the you have to do your research. You can't just show up in South America and be like, all right. Give me some Iowa ska because there are a lot of creepy Lous in Farias outfits that have come up to take advantage explicitly of that kind of western tourists. The ill-informed, western tourists who is going to have a horrible, terrible trip and not going to get these spiritual experience you're looking for so you have to do your research, because there are some legitimate, I o Osco fits in South America. But you they're, they're not going to take you just show up down there and you're going to end up in some to in a bad situation. Yeah. For sure. So taking part in, in one of these ceremonies. Let's say you do find like a legit shaman, who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever. However, you're paying. Your gold ingots and trinkets. It's still sort of funny. It all goes back to Burroughs with the set and setting thing, which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set in the setting where you're going to do this goes well for you. So as this concoction is being brewed, like I said before, sometimes you're taking part in this in helping the mash it up in brew the tea. But what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show. It's, it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and rocus on kind of the right things going in like what do you want to accomplish here? What do you wanna find out about yourself? What questions do you have about yourself and really get into that, that frame of mind as they hand, you your puke bucket, although I would recommend bringing your own. Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought about that. I would not want reused Pugh bucket. Good lord. I hadn't even considered that. That'd be BYOD for me. So, yeah. I can just totally see how as a as a westerner, you would just be like, come on. We don't need the ceremony stuff. Give me the good stuff. Right. But like you said, that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and body prepared for this enormous trip. You're about to go on, because if you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with out any kind of systens you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well, yeah. So that is a big part of going on in Iowa journey is, is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you, you need to be monitored. You can't be up like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are going to happen to you in that situation and then to help you afterward, as well. And from from some of the preliminary research that starting to come in, if you undertake in Iowa Oskar journey, I guess it was the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during and after it can have profound effects on your spirituality, and your sense of connectedness to the universe. It can also possibly help you with with diagnosed mental illness as well. Yeah we'll we'll get to the departmental almost part at the end. But just your standard sort of a truth seeker. Let's say, okay. It's very much tied into like what the in ideal conditions like the sixties and seventies with just beyond. But the LSD experience in that those a lot of talk in the sixties about the ego, and every, you know, hip musician in the United States talked about stripping away the ego. From Brian Wilson to the mamas and the Papas to, you know, Neil young is dripping away that ego of yourself, basically, which which means kind of getting outside yourself to the point where you're not looking at the world around you and how it affects you. But there is no you there is. No, it's a loss of self such that so profound that you can only see the world and people around you as they exist in reality. It's a pretty sort of deep trippy thing to try and describe in words on a podcast. But I think that's sort of the general thing is, is washing that ego down to where it's not around anymore. And you get a true sense of the world around, you. Right. Like for the maybe for the first time. Yeah, yeah. The ego in and of itself, isn't a bad thing. Like it's they think that developed among animals is that your sense of self awareness. That's the thing that leads you to. Want to preserve your own life to get away from danger to realize that like you can die because there is a you. Right. It's a very basic thing. The problem is in humans, as we've evolved are ego has also evolved in it can get to a point where it's unhealthy. It's kind of toxic. It can help you develop Badra, bad relationships, people don't wanna be around. You can also affect your self esteem..

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"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

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14:42 min | 2 years ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"All right. So DM t- what you mentioned at the onset, the, the, the one part of this concoction, the P Veritas contains the Mt. You're going to pronounce that. Oh, yes, it's Di methyl trip to me. Oh, what could you just rolls off the tongue? Now, doesn't it? So this is something not exclusive to p of it's found in a bunch of psychedelic substances in this is something that can cause listens. Perhaps changes in your perception, your state of consciousness, your sense of self which will really get into it as a lot to do with the I wass ca journey. However, if you just eat the DMV, it's not going to have this kind of affect on you because there's an enzyme called mono. Amine oxidise and that's going to break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed. See have to combine it with this copy vine, which prevents the uptake of it. Yeah, the copy vine has an alkaloid called the harm all alkaloid and harm liens are Saipa psychotropic, and of themselves, which is why the, the copy vine alone used to just be Iowa ska. But the fact that it prevents your, the mono Amine oxidises to break down the DM, t it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you trip in balls. Although I hear it's not all of a sudden, I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on, and then it takes a supplementary boost. An hour or so later to, to really bring on like the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take. Yeah. For sure. So you've got the you've got the DM t being absorbed. That's the one two punch. Right. You've got the DM itself, and then you've got the plant that allows the DM t to be absorbed in when you put those two things together, the P Varietes and the b- copy. That's what the that's the Iowa that you read about vice. That's what they're talking about. Yeah. In these, you know, this is administered by shaman, someone who ideally, as shaman that knows what they're doing. And they're sometimes there are other plans that are brewed in there as well, but not always, and sometimes it's brute separately, and then combined later, sometimes it all depends on, which shaman you go to what the ritual is, like, sometimes you're included as part of it, sometimes it's like a thick liquid t-. Sometimes it's a paste, it's been described, no matter what it is. It seems like around the horn. Everybody says it tastes awful so awful that that you can very easily through. Up, which is something that's pretty common with the with the Nyawosa experiences. I didn't get that from the from the taste though. That was like, once it's in your body. It makes you nauseous and you throw up. Right. But, like, oh, this tastes so bad. I'm gonna puke it up. No. Because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed. Right. Yeah. But I think the taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up. But the whether whether you do throw for not it's not necessarily like hundred percent. You're going to throw up there. The point, one of the points of Iowa ceremony is to throw up your meant to throw up, and you're, you will actually be forced into this either. If you don't do it from the Iowa, ska, you may also be given something like tobacco juice, like a water with tobacco. That's soaked in it for a while. And you'll be told the drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up. Or diarrhea Zaveri, frequent side, effective, Iowa, very frequent, you are, you are meant to be purging your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the horrible nece. That's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip as trip sets in. Yeah. In the taste has been described the New York Times said it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from vox dot com took it a gun, Sean Illing. He described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water. Right. So I read I read it's almost as grosses a neck. Oh, wafer. Nikko wafer. Good on you have, you know what am I crazy? What are they go away? For like old timey kind of like chalky candy comes in a role. You seen them probably. You've seen them in my old, timey candidateship. Exactly. Sure. I did. Yeah. So. All right. I guess we should talk a little bit about. Like you said, it's orange as origins in the Napa river basin by this Ruina tribe, like you said, and it's called the vine of death or the mother vine this copy. And they think that early on, they may have just taken this copy by itself. Right. Right. Because the brew it's got the hormones in it. That's not only an M A O, but also has its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on. So that was the original ska. Yeah. And we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to try, you know, Christian is folks and trip balls. Yeah, because I'm sure the entry was like, whoa. And that's it. Hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary. Yes. On senegalese. The sentinel island. Yeah. He. It's like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a bible that he was holding. Apparently I hadn't heard about that. Yeah. Because he had he went back a few times journaling about it. Instead, he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an era was shot through it. And like dude if that is not like if you believe in God, that's a sign from God. Well, you remember turned around the man in the whole episode we talked about them. Yeah. They were the ones that like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near them. And some fishermen had been killed like years few years back, and this guy, I guess had tried he decided he was going to be the one. I don't actually know enough about the story, but he clearly was trying to gain access to them. Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid like you're not supposed. It's illegal, I think even trespass there, but he paid. People sort of under the table to take him there, and they did. So in those people were arrested and his family saying you need to let these people go because he like, really wanted to do this. I see three interesting. Yeah, it is crazy. But I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting in ERO through the bible holding up right now. So we got a little sidetracked, but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds, right? When they went in there, like, hey, there's something going on down here. That's very interesting. Yeah. And even Williams, Burroughs wrote the letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the Iowa divine in. Apparently they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century that you could combine it with the peeve Varez and have a completely different experience. But that wasn't necessarily the point that was like in optional ceremony, you could perform. But the most the most widespread traditional ceremony was just the vine of death, right? Yeah. And then it some point somebody started putting them together in word about this. God out in the mid two thousand is when it just I ask kind of hit the public consciousness in the west. Yeah. I mean, in the sixties, of course, in, in certain, you know, subcultures in America, they knew about it because of William Burroughs, and people seeking out things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences. But it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until, you know, not too long ago, and even still, I think even at the time it was strictly, the harm liens, and just, the, the vine that was being used the copy, vine, it was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the, the Beretta's plant in, that's when it became. Hugely popular. Yes. So popular now that there is Iowa. Tourism, big time like going on in South America. In said the central part is Peru's roomba valley. And if you I mean, if you going down for an Iowa experience like a spiritual quest is, is the reason you're going down there. I don't fault you for that at all. Sure. The you have to understand the you have to do your research can't to show up in South America and be like, all right. Give me some Iowa ska because there are a lot of intergroup Yetlis in Farias outfits that have come up to take advantage explicitly of that kind of western tourists. The ill-informed, western tourists who is going to have a horrible, terrible trip and not going to get these spiritual experience, you're looking for so you have to do your research, because there are some legitimate Iowa scout fits in South America. But you they're, they're not going to take you just show up down there and you're going to end up in some in a bad situation. Yeah. For sure. So taking part in, in one of these ceremonies. Let's say you do find like a legit shaman, who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever. However, you're paying. Your gold ingots and hits. It's still, it's sort of funny at all goes back to Burroughs with the set and setting thing, which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set in the setting where you're going to do this goes well for you. So as this concoction is being brewed, like I said before, sometimes you're taking part in this, and helping the mash it up and brew the t-. But what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show. It's, it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and on kind of the right things going in like what do you want to accomplish here? What do you wanna find out about yourself? What questions do you have about yourself and really get into that, that frame of mind as they hand, you your puke bucket, although I would recommend bringing your own. Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought about that. I would not want a reused puke bucket. Good. Lord. I hadn't even considered that that'd be for me. So, yeah. I can just totally see how as a as a westerner, you would just be like, come on. We don't need the ceremony stuff. Just give me the good stuff. Right. But like you said, that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and body prepared for this enormous trip. You're about to go on, because if he's get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with out any kind of systens you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well, yeah. So that is a big part of going on in Iowa journey is, is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you, you need to be monitored, you can't be up like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are going to happen to you in that situation and then to help you afterward, as well. And from from some of the preliminary research that starting to come in if you undertake in Iowa. Journey, I guess it was the best word I can come up with. Under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during. And after it can have profound effects on your spirituality, and your sense of connectedness to the universe. It can also possibly help you with with diagnose mental illness, as well. Yeah, we'll we'll get to the part mental illness part at the end, but just your standard sort of a truth seeker. Let's say, okay. It's very much tied into like what the in ideal conditions like the sixties and seventies with just beyond. But the LSD experience in that those a lot of talk in the sixties about the ego, and every, you know, hip musician in the United States talked about stripping away the ego. From Brian Wilson to the mamas and the Papas to Neil young. Is stripping away that ego of yourself, basically, which which means kind of getting outside yourself to the point where you're not looking at the world around you and how it affects you? But there is no you there is. No, it's a loss of self such that so profound that you can only see the world and people around you as they exist in reality. It's a pretty sort of deep trippy thing to try and describe in words on a podcast. But I think that's sort of the general thing is, is washing that ego down to where it's not around anymore. And you get a true sense of the world around, you. Right for the maybe for the first time. Yeah, yeah. The ego in and of itself, isn't a bad thing. Like it's they think that it developed among animals is that your sense of self awareness. That's the thing that leads you to want to preserve your own life to get away from danger to realize that like. You can die because there is a you. Right. It's a very basic thing. The problem is in humans, as we've evolved are ego, has also volved in it can get to a point where it's unhealthy. It's kind of toxic. It can help you develop Badra, bad relationships, people don't wanna be around. You can also affect your self esteem..

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"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

14:42 min | 2 years ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"All right. So DM t-, which you mentioned that the onset, the, the, the one part of this concoction, the P Veritas contains the Mt pronounce that. Oh, yes. It's dia method trip to me. Could you just rolls off the tongue? Now, doesn't it? So this is something not exclusive to p Veritas founded a bunch of psychedelic substances, and this is something that can cause listens. Perhaps changes in your perception. Your state of consciousness. Your sense of self which will really get into it has a lot to do with the Iowa journey. However, if you just eat the Mt, it's not going to have this kind of affect on you because there's an enzyme called mono Amine oxidise, and that's gonna break down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed. See have to combine it with this copy vine, which prevents the uptake of it. Yeah. The copy vine has an alkaloid called the harm Allah, alkaloid, and harm lanes are Sipe, psychotropic, and of themselves, which is why the, the copy vine alone used to just be Iowa ska. But the fact that it prevents your, the mono Amine oxidise to break down the DM, t it allows your body to absorb it and all of a sudden you're tripping balls. Although I hear it's not all of a sudden, I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on, and then it takes like a supplementary boost. An hour. So later to, to really bring on like the kind of transcendent experience, that people are looking for when they take us. Yeah. For sure. So you've got the you've got the DM t being absorbed. That's the one two punch. Right. You've got the DM t- itself. And then you've got the plant that allows the DM t to be absorbed. And when you put those two things together the P Varietes and the b- copy. That's what that's the Iowa that you read about vice. That's what they're talking about. Yeah. In these, you know, this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally is a shaman that knows what they're doing. And there's sometimes there are other plants that are brewed in there as well, but not always, and sometimes it's separately, and then combined later. Sometimes it all depends on, which shaman you go to what the ritual is. Like, sometimes you're included as part of it, sometimes it's like a thick liquid t-. Sometimes it's a paste, it's been described, no matter what it is. It seems like around the, the horn everybody says it it tastes awful so awful that, that you can very easily through. Up, which is something that's pretty common with, with the Nyawosa experiences. I didn't get that from the from the taste though. That was like, once it's in your body. It makes you nauseous and you throw up. Right. But like, oh, this tastes bad. I'm gonna puke it up. No. Because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed. Right. Yeah. But I think the taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up, but the whether whether you do throw up or not it's not necessarily like one hundred percent you're going to throw up there. The point one of the points of an Iowa ceremony is to throw up your meant to throw up and you're, you will actually be forced into this either. If you don't do it from the Iowa, ska, you may also be given something like tobacco juice, like a water with tobacco. That's soaked for a while. And you'll be told the drink that so that you will throw up because this idea of purging whether it's throwing up. Or diarrhea Zaveri, frequent side, effective, Iowa, very frequent, you are, you are meant to be purging your body and it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the, the horrible nece. That's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip as trip sets in. Yeah. In the taste has been described the New York Times said it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from vox dot com to get a gun Sean Illing. He described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water. Right. So I read, I read it's almost as gross as Nikko wafer. Had a nickel waiver good on. You. Have you know what am I crazy? What are they go away? For like old timey kind of like chalky candy comes in a role. You seen them probably you've seen them in my old, timey candidates. Exactly. Sure. I did. Yeah. So. All right. I guess we should talk a little bit about. Like you said, it's orange origins. In the Napa river basin by this Ruina, tribe, like you said. And it's called the vine of death or the mother vine this copy. And they think that early on, they may have just taken this copy by itself. Right. Right. Because the brew it's got the harm lanes in it. That's not only an MA. Oh, but also has its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on. So that was the original Wasco. Yeah. And we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to try, you know, Christian is folks and trip balls. Because I'm sure the entry was like, whoa. And that's it. Hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary. Yes. On senegalese. The sentinel island. Yeah. He. It's like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a bible that he was holding. Apparently I hadn't heard about that. Yeah, because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it. Instead. He basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an era was shot through it. And like dude if that is not like if you believe in God, that's a sign from God. Well, you remember the turn around the man in the whole episode we talked about them. Yeah. They were the ones that like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near them. And some fishermen had been killed like years few years back, and this guy, I guess had tried he decided he was going to be the one. Yeah. I don't actually know enough about the story, but he clearly was trying to gain access to them. Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to spread the word of Jesus and paid like you're not supposed. It's illegal, I think even trespass there, but he paid. People sort of under the table to take him there, and they did. So in those people were arrested and his family saying you need to let these people go because he like, really wanted to do this. I see three interesting. Yeah, it is crazy. But I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting an aero through the bible holding up, right? So we got a little sidetracked, but we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds, right? When they went in there, like, hey, there's something going on down here. That's very interesting. Yeah. And even Williams, Burroughs wrote the letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the Iowa divine, and apparently they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century that you could combine it with the p. Artists and have a completely different experience. But that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony you could perform. But the most the most widespread traditional ceremony was just the vine of death, right? Yeah. And then at some point, somebody started putting them together in word about this out in the mid two thousand when it just I- Wasco kind of hit the public consciousness in the west. Yeah. I mean, in the sixties, of course, in, in certain, you know, subcultures in America, they knew about it because of Williams boroughs, and people seeking out things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences. But it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until, you know, not too long ago, and even still, I think even at the time it was strictly, the harm liens, and, and just, the, the vine that was being used the copy, vine, it was it wasn't somebody started put. Tting it together. Frequently with the, the Beretta's plant in. That's when it became hugely popular. Yes. So popular now that there is I waspa- tourism, big time like going on in South America, in the central part is Peru's room valley. And if you I mean, if you you're going down for an Iowa ska experience like a spiritual quest is, is the reason you're going down there. I don't fault you for that at all. Sure. The you have to understand the you have to do your research can't to show up in South America and be like, all right. So give me some Iowa, because there are a lot of insecurity Lous in Farias outfits that have come up to take advantage explicitly of that kind of western tourists. The ill, informed western tourists, who is going to have a horrible, terrible trip and not going to get these spiritual experience, you're looking for so you have to do your research, because there are some legitimate Iowa scout fits in South America, but you there they're not going to take you just show up down there and you're going to end up in some to in a bad situation. Yeah. For sure. So taking part in, in one of these ceremonies. Let's say you do find like a legit shaman, who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever. However, you're paying. Your gold ingots drink hits. It's still sort of funny. It all goes back to Burroughs with the set and setting thing, which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set in the setting where you're going to do this took as well for you. So as this. Concoction is being brewed like I said before, sometimes you're taking part in this in helping the mashed up and brew t-, but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show. It's, it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and on kind of the right things going in like what do you want to accomplish here? What do you wanna find out about yourself? What questions do you have about yourself and really get into that, that frame of mind as they hand, you your puke bucket, although I would recommend bringing your own. Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought about that. I would not want a reused bucket. Good lord. I hadn't even considered that it'd be for me. So, yeah. I can just totally see how as a as a westerner, you would just be like, come on. We don't need a ceremony this. Give me the good stuff. Right. But like you said, that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and body prepared for this, this enormous trip. You're about to go on, because you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with out any kind of a since you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well, yeah. So that is a big part of going on in Iowa journey is, is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you, you need to be monitored. You can't be up like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are going to happen to you in that situation and then to help you afterward, as well. And from from some of the preliminary research that starting to come in, if you undertake in Iowa ska journey, I guess it was the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during and after it can have profound effects on your spirituality, and your sense of connectedness to the universe. It can also possibly help you with with diagnosed mental illness as well. Yeah, we'll we'll get to the illness part mental illness part at NIU. But just your standard sort of a truth seeker. Let's say, okay. It's very much tied into like the an ideal conditions and like the sixties and seventies with just beyond. But the LSD experience in that those a lot of talk in the sixties about the ego, and every, you know, hip musician in the United States talked about stripping away the ego. From Brian Wilson to the mamas and the Papas to, you know, Neil young is stripping away that ego of yourself, basically, which which means kind of getting outside yourself to the point where you're not looking at the world around you and how it affects you. But there is no you there is. No, it's a loss of self such that so profound that you can only see the world and people around you as they exist in reality. It's a pretty sort of deep trippy thing to try and describe in words on a podcast. But I think that's sort of the general thing is, is washing that ego down to where it's not around anymore. And you get a true sense of the world around, you. Right. Like for the maybe for the first time. Yeah, yeah. The ego in and of itself, isn't a bad thing. Like it's, it's they think that it developed among animals is that your sense of self awareness. That's the thing that leads you to. To preserve your own life to get away from danger to realize that like you can die because there is a you. Right. It's a very basic thing. The problem is in humans, as we've evolved are ego has also evolved. It can get to a point where it's unhealthy. It's kind of toxic. It can help you develop Badra, bad relationships, people don't wanna be around. You can also affect your self esteem..

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"napa river basin" Discussed on News Radio 810 WGY

News Radio 810 WGY

13:20 min | 2 years ago

"napa river basin" Discussed on News Radio 810 WGY

"All right. So DM t-, which you mentioned that the onset the the one part of this concoction the peeve. Contains the Mt to pronounce that. Oh, yes. It's dia method trip to me. Oh, could you just rolls off the tongue? Now, doesn't it? So this is something not exclusive to p of areas, it's founded a bunch of psychedelic substances. And this is something that can cause listens. Perhaps changes in your perception your state of consciousness. Your sense of self which will really get into. It has a lot to do with the Wasco journey. However, if you just eat the. It's not going to have this kind of a fact on you because there's an enzyme called mono Amine oxidise, and that's going to break it down in your digestive system before it gets absorbed. See have to combine it with this copy vine, which prevents the uptake of it. Yeah. The copy vine has an alkaloid called the harm all alkaloid and harm lanes are psychotropic and of themselves, which is why the the copy vine alone used to just be Iowa ska. But the fact that it prevents your the mono Amine oxidation to break down the DM t it allows your body to absorb it. And all of a sudden, you're tripping balls, although I hear it's not all of a sudden, I think it's it takes a good thirty minutes to come on. And then it takes like a supplementary boost. An hour or so later to to really bring on like, the kind of transcendent experience that people are looking for when they take us go. Yeah. For sure. So you've got you've got the DM t being absorbed. That's the one two punch. Right. You've got the DMZ itself. And then you've got the plant that allows the DM t to be absorbed. And when you put those two things together, the P Varietes and the b- copy. That's what the that's the Iowa that you read about in vice that's what they're talking about. Yeah. In these, you know, this is administered by a shaman someone who ideally as shaman that knows what they're doing. And there's sometimes there are other plants that are brewed in there as well. But not always and sometimes it's brute separately, and then combined later, sometimes it all depends on which shaman you go to what the ritual is like sometimes you're included as part of it. Sometimes it's like a thick liquid t-. Sometimes it's a paste. It's been described. No matter what it is. It seems like around the horn. Everybody says it tastes awful. So awful that that you can very easily through. Up which is something that's pretty common with with the Nyawosa experiences. I didn't get that from the from the taste though. That was like once it's in your body. It makes you nauseous and you throw up right? But like, oh, this tastes so bad. I'm going to pick it up. No. Because then it wouldn't be in your body long enough to be absorbed. Right. Yeah. But I think the taste in the memory of the taste combined with the nausea is enough to throw up, but the whether whether you do throw it for not it's not necessarily like hundred percent you're going to throw up there. The point one of the points of Iowa ceremony is to throw up your meant to throw up. And you're you will actually be forced into this either. If you don't do it from the Iowa ska, you may also be given something like tobacco juice like a water with tobacco that's soaked in it for a while. And you'll be told the drink that so that you will throw up because this idea purging whether it's throwing up. Or diarrheas very frequent side, effective Iowa very frequent. You are you are meant to be purging your body. And it's meant to be this kind of symbolic spiritual purge of your ego of all the nastiness of all the the horrible nece. That's a part of you getting it out as part of the trip as trip sets in. Yeah. In the taste has been described. The New York Times said it's like a muddy herbal taste someone from vox dot com. Took it a gun, Sean Illing he described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water. Right. So red red. It's almost as grosses a Nikko. Wafer. Had a nickel. Wafer good on. You have. You know, what am I crazy? What are they go away for like old timey kind of like chalky candy comes in a role? You see them probably you've seen them. And my old timey candidates. Exactly. Sure. I did. Yeah. So. All right. I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's orange as origins in the Napa river basin by this Ruina tribe. Like you said, and it's called the vine of death or the mother vine this copy, and they think that early on. They may have just taken this copy by itself, right, right? Because the brew. It's got the harm lanes in it. That's not only an MA. Oh, but also has its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on. So that was the original Wasco. Yeah. And we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to try, you know, Christianized folks and trip balls because I'm sure the entry was like, whoa. And that's it. Hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary. Yes. On Senegalese the sentinel island. Yeah. He he. It's like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a bible that he was holding apparently. Uh-huh. I hadn't heard about that. Yeah. Because he had he went back a few times. It was like journaling about it and said he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an era was shot through it. And like dude if that is not like if you believe in God that's a sign from God. Well, you remember around the man in the whole episode. We talked about them. Yeah. They were the ones that like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near them. And some fishermen had been killed like years few years back, and this guy, I guess had tried. He decided he was going to be the one. Yeah. I don't actually know enough about the story, but he clearly was trying to gain access to them. Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to spread the word of Jesus paid like if you're not supposed it's illegal. I think even trespass there, but he paid people sort of under the table to take him there. And they did. So in those people were arrested and his family saying you need to let these people go because he like really wanted to do this. I see three interesting. Yeah. It is crazy. But I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting aero through the bible rolling up. Right. So we got a little sidetracked. But we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds. Right. When they went in there. Like, hey, there's something going on down here. That's very interesting. Yeah. And even Williams Burroughs wrote, the letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the Iowa divine. And apparently, they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century that you could combine it with the P Varez and have a completely different experience. But that wasn't necessarily the point that was like in optional ceremony you could perform, but the most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death. Right. Yeah. And then at some point somebody started putting them together in word about this. God out in the mid two thousand is when it just I waspa- kind of hit the public consciousness in the west. Yeah. I mean in the sixties, of course, in in certain, you know, subcultures in America, they knew about it because of Williams boroughs and people seeking out things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences. But it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until you know, not not too long ago. And even still I think even at the time, it was strictly the harm liens and just the the vine that was being used the copy vine. It was it wasn't somebody started putting it together. Frequently with the the Beretta's plant, and that's when it became hugely popular. Yes. So popular now that there is I Awadh tourism big time like going on in South America in said, the central part is Peru's roomba valley. And if you I mean, if you you're going down for an Iowa experience, like a spiritual quest is is the reason you're going down there. I don't fault you for that. At all. Sure. The you have to understand the you have to do your research can't to show up in South America. And be like, all right. So give me some Iowa ska because there are a lot of insecurity, Lous and affaris outfits that have come up to take advantage explicitly of that kind of western tourists, the ill informed, western tourists, who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get these spiritual experience you're looking for. So you have to do your research because there are some legitimate Iowa scout fits in South America. But you there they're not going to take you just show up down there, and you're gonna end up in some in a bad situation. Yeah. For sure so taking part in in one of these ceremonies. Let's you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever. However, you're paying. Your gold ingots and drink hits. It's still it's sort of funny. It all goes back to Burroughs with the set and setting thing, right? Which is what he famously preached about any psychedelic experience to really put a lot of thought into the set in the setting where you're going to do this took as well for you. So as this concoction is being brewed like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this and helping to mash it up and brew t-. But what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show. It's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in focus on kind of the right things going in like, what do you want to accomplish here? What do you wanna find out about yourself? What questions? Do you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket, although recommend bringing your own. I hadn't thought about that. I wouldn't wanna reused bucket. Good lord. I hadn't. Even considered that. That'd be for me. So yeah, I can just totally see how as a as a westerner. You would just be like come on. We don't need the ceremony stuff. Give me the good stuff. Right. But like you said, that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and body prepared for this enormous trip. You're about to go on because if he's get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with out any kind of systens, you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well. Yeah. So that is a big part of going on in Iowa journey is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you, you need to be monitored. You can't be up in like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are going to happen to you in that situation. And then to help you afterward as well. And from from some of the preliminary research that starting to come in if you undertake in Iowa ska journey, I guess it was the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during and after it can have profound effects on your, spirituality and your sense of connectedness to the universe. It can also possibly help you with with diagnosed mental illness as well. Yeah. We'll we'll get to the part mental illness part at the end. But just your standard sort of a truth seeker. Let's say, okay. It's very much tied into like what the an ideal conditions like the sixties and seventies with L. Just beyond but the LSD experience in that those a lot of talk in the sixties about the ego. And every you know, hip musician in the United States talked about stripping away the ego. From Brian Wilson to the mamas..

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"Taste someone from vox dot com. Took it a guy named Sean Illing. He described it as a Cup of motor oil diluted with a splash of water. Right. So I read. I read it's almost as gross as a neck. Oh wafer. Ever had a nickel. Wafer good on you have. You know, what am I crazy? What are they go away for like old timey kind of like Chaki candy comes in a role you seen them? Probably. You've seen them in my old timey candidates. Exactly. Sure. I did. Yeah. So. All right. I guess we should talk a little bit about like you said it's orange is origins in the Napa river basin by this Ruina tribe. Like you said, and it's called the vine of death of the mother vine this copy, and they think that early on. They may have just taken this copy by itself, right, right? Because the brew. It's got the harm lanes in it. That's not only an M A O, but also has like its own kind of psychoactive stuff going on. So that was the original Wasco yet. And we have written accounts from like the seventeen hundreds when Jesuits would go to the Amazon to try, and you know, Christian is folks and trip balls because I'm sure the entry was like, whoa. And that's it you hear about the guy that was just killed the missionary. Yes. On Senegalese the sentinel island. Yeah. He he. It's like something from a movie he went at first and a child shot an arrow through a bible that he was holding. Apparently, I hadn't heard about that. Yeah. Because he had he went back a few times and was like journaling about it. Instead, he basically like held up his bibles like some from a movie and an era was shot through it. And like dude that is not like if you believe in God that's a sign from God. Well, you remembering turned around the man in the whole episode. We talked about them. Yeah. They were the ones that like you like everyone knew you just don't go anywhere near them. And some fishermen had been killed like years few years back, and this guy, I guess had tried. He decided he was going to be the one. Yeah. I don't actually know enough about the story, but he clearly was trying to gain access to them. Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to spread the word of Jesus paid. Like, you're not supposed it's illegal. I think to even trespass there. Yeah. But he paid people. Sort of under the table to take him there. And they did. So those people were arrested in his family saying you need to let these people go because he really wanted to do this. I see three interesting. Yeah. It is crazy. But I just like that sounds like something you would make up from a movie like shooting in aero through the bible building up. Right. You know? So we got a little sidetracked. But we were talking about the Jesuits like having this on record in the seventeen hundreds. Right. When they went in there. Like, hey, there's something going down down here. That's very interesting. Yeah. And even William Burroughs wrote the Yahoo letters in nineteen sixty three and it was about his experience with the Iowa divine. And apparently, they the practitioners at the time new well into the to the the twentieth century that you could combine it with the peeve rigorous right in have a completely different experience. But that wasn't necessarily the point that was like an optional ceremony could perform, but. The most the most widespread in traditional ceremony was just the vine of death. Right. Yeah. And then at some point somebody started putting them together in word about this. God out in the mid two thousand is when it just I Awadh kind of hit the public consciousness in the west. Yeah. I mean in the sixties, of course, in in certain, you know, subcultures in America, they knew about it because of Williams boroughs and people seeking out, you know, things like peyote and all kinds of psychedelic experiences. But it definitely was not sort of in the mainstream until, you know, not not too long ago, and even still I think even at the time, it was strictly the harm liens, and and just the the vine that was being used the copy vine. It was it wasn't somebody started putting it together frequently with the the Beretta's plant in. That's when it became. Hugely popular. Yes. So popular. Now that there is I walk tourism big time like going on in South America in said, the central part is Peru's roomba valley. And if you I mean, if you were going down for an Iowa ska experience, like a spiritual quest is is the reason you're going down there. I don't fault you for that. At all. Sure. The you have to understand the the you have to do your research. You can't just show up in South America. And be like all right, somebody give me some Oskar because there are a lot of insecurity Lous in Farias outfits that have come up to take advantage explicitly of that kind of western tourists, the ill informed, western tourists, who is going to have a horrible terrible trip and not going to get these spiritual experience you're looking for. So you have to do your research because there are some legitimate Iowa scout fits in South America. But you there you're not going to take you if you just show up down there, and you're going to end up in some to in a bad situation. Yeah. For sure so taking part in in one of these ceremonies. Let's say you do find like a legit shaman who's willing to take your American dollars or whatever. However, your pay. Hang your gold ingots entering kits. It it still is sort of funny. It all goes back to Burroughs with the set and setting thing, right? Which is what he famously preached about. Any psychedelic experience is to really put a lot of thought into the set in the setting where you're going to do this took as well for you. So as this concoction is being brewed like I said before sometimes you're taking part in this in helping the mash it up and brew the tea, but what they're really trying to do is the whole ceremony isn't just like for show. It's it's all part of the thing to get you settled in and focused on kind of the right things going in like, what do you want to accomplish here? What do you wanna find out about yourself? What questions do you have about yourself and really get into that that frame of mind as they hand you your puke bucket, although I would recommend bringing your own. Oh, I hadn't thought about that. I would not want a reused peeve bucket. Good lord. I hadn't even. Considered that that'd be BYOD for me. So yeah, I can just totally see how as a as a westerner. You would just be like come on. We don't need the ceremony stuff. This. Give me the good stuff. Right. But the like you said, that's the point is the ease you into it to get your mind and body prepared for this enormous trip. You're about to go on because you just get dropped right in the middle of it without any kind of preparation or with out any kind of systens, you're going to lose your marbles pretty pretty well. Yeah. So that that is a big part of going on in Iowa journey is is having somebody who's competent trained and empathetic in willing to stay there with you to prepare you to stay with you to keep an eye on you, you need to be monitored. You can't be up in like just running off into the jungle by yourself because terrible things are going to happen to you in that situation. And then to help you afterward as well. And. From from some of the preliminary research that starting to come in. If you undertake in Iowa. Journey. I guess it was the best word I can come up with under the right setting under the right guidance with the right support both pre during an after it can have profound effects on your, spirituality and your sense of connectedness to the universe. It can also possibly help you with with diagnosed mental illness as well. Yeah. We'll we'll get to the illness part mental illness part at the end, but just your standard sort of truth seeker. Let's say, okay. It's very much tied into like what the in ideal conditions in like, the sixties and seventies with Ella's beyond, but the LSD experience in that those a lot of talk in the sixties about the ego, and every, you know, hip musician in the United States talked about stripping away the ego. From Brian Wilson to the mamas. And the Papas to you know, Neil young is stripping away that ego of yourself, basically, which which means kind of getting outside yourself to the point where you're not looking at the world around

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