18 Burst results for "Naomi Klein"

"naomi klein" Discussed on Blazing Trails

Blazing Trails

02:29 min | 10 months ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Blazing Trails

"I think that. I've been an environmentalist for many many decades. But what made me kind of leap from my seat and decide to move to dc and start what has come to be known as fired row. Fridays was reading. Naomi klein's book on fire the burning issue of green new deal. Because what she did was. She explained the science in a way that really that really got to me and that. An because people are environmentalists and climate activists and they never mentioned fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are at the center of the climate crisis. Yes there are other things methane from animals and various But the main culprit is fossil fuels and what naomi showed me is the science. Scientists are saying that we absolutely must not allow warming to go above one point five degrees celsius above what it was before we began to burn fossil fuels before the industrial revolution. That is very specific. One point five degrees celsius and we have to do that by cutting our fossil fuel emissions in half by twenty thirty. That's so clear and so specific and even in their new report that came out very recently the global climate scientists. Say the same thing we have now. Nine years left and We have to cut our fossil fuel emissions in half so you know in the in the wake of ida and all the destruction in the fires in the flooding and so forth the talking heads on television. During that week i noticed. Nobody mentioned fossil fuels in mentioned. This is a catastrophe. It's it's colbrad. We have to move towards green energy and everything but people don't talk about fossil fuels so i decided that i have a platform on a movie star. I have a hit tv series behind me grace. And frankie that are flying went to washington and i engaged in civil disobedience that would put me in a position where i was risking getting arrested..

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"naomi klein" Discussed on The Office Deep Dive with Brian Baumgartner

The Office Deep Dive with Brian Baumgartner

07:15 min | 10 months ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on The Office Deep Dive with Brian Baumgartner

"So you've got fantasy football that's basically now for me. You're also just shot a movie gonna shoot this other show. You're working with lita haiti. And you also have a new new ish. Podcast metaphysical milkshake. How did that come about so a long time ago. While i was doing the office. Some friends of mine and i started a digital media company called soul pancake in some of you may know some of the videos. We'd have very successful youtube channel. We did shows like kid president and up my last days and a lot of viral video hits you. I did a music video. Do music video. Yeah we that was really fun. Radio pajamas wonderful. Yes i did a little show on that called metaphysical milkshake. 'cause i love deep philosophical conversations. I just love to kind of dig into the the biggest possible big ideas. That's something i've always loved to do. Ever since i was a preteen so along with my friend dr raza azlan who is a fantastic Historian writer commentator. We started this podcast. Metaphysical milkshake which is exploring life's big questions With some of the biggest authors and thinkers and movers and shakers out had malcolm glad well on the show and a naomi klein so many great thinkers and the topics are all over the place. You know it's it can be this week we're interviewing. I'm so excited this guy. Avi loeb whose astrophysicists from harvard. Who has this new book extraterrestrial. it's all about The search for alien life. It's great great book and so sometimes it's science. Sometimes philosophy sometimes spirituality. Were unafraid to talk about. You know god and life and death and the soul and so that's been really fun. We've been doing this for cast media and there's you know there's about twenty episodes out they come out about every week or so. You can subscribe wherever you get your fine podcasts. You're talking a great thinkers. I haven't been on yet. Oh god how did we let that happen. I mean great thinker now of our day. I don't know. I think that we think about some life's big questions that might be involved with topics like golf and fantasy football. You know i. I don't know i'm even. I know i'm setting myself up here even beginning this subject to tell you that for me. Golf does bring me to a place of spirituality and there's not a not a joke. I know i'm opening myself up but i know it's not a joke for me. I believe it's the it's the equivalent of i don't specifically meditate. I will at times. Try to take moments of quiet. But for me on the golf course. It is the only time where everything else falls away from me. Which i feel like is a form of meditating and for me. It is strictly about accomplishing this. One task and finding focus on that one thing allows everything else to go away any other anxieties. Or were or family stresses or anything else goes away and it's simply me attempting to accomplish one goal which is to get the ball in the hole. Is that weird. Does that count. No i relate to that completely now. I do have a meditation practice but as you know i play a lot of tennis. We used to play tennis right. And you are a pretty damn good tennis and used to kick my butt sometimes not all the time. Well most of the time. But i've gotten a lot better since. That was like twelve years ago but i feel the same way about tennis because i think there's something beautiful about sport because it forces you to be in the moment so when i'm on the tennis court the only thing that exists that green yellow ball and where is it and how am i going to address it. All of my natural. I'm a very anxious person. My anxiety lifts away. And i'm simply in my body breathing moving and witnessing this ball and it's exhilarating and all of a sudden you're done playing tennis an hour and a half two hours later. And you're like you just feel so refreshed and uplifted because looking at your phone and haven't been pondering things and obsessing over things and you've just been in the moment and been outside it's a. It's glorious yes i relate yes you see. Here's what we did. We just talked about a life's big question. Just like this irreverently with fun in relatable way and that's what we try and do metaphysical milkshake well. That doesn't seem so hard. Yeah i could be a guest then. Yeah i think if this is easy as that well there you have it. Do you have a favorite big question to ponder or one that you're currently pondering. Well i think all of the life's big questions that are the most meaningful to me are. We are living in really difficult times and with climate change with political divisions with racism with fears of international divisions and Saber rattling going on economic insecurity. It's a really difficult time to be alive. And i have you have kids. And i have a teenage son and for so many young people. Mental health epidemic is really extreme anxiety depression suicidal idealization. It's a very difficult time so any time that you have a question about like what what is my life's purpose like why are we here. And what can we do on two levels. One make the world a better place but also to give our lives kind of a deep satisfying rich wellness and wholeness so those two things go hand in hand i believe like we feel more rich and fulfilled and more well. The more we're giving to others and the more we give to others the more rich and whole and fulfilled. We've we feel so. I think that's what young people need to think about. There's so many Young folk just have given up. You know it's just like why. Should i care. It's all the world's going to hell and everything's falling apart anyway but you know we can make a difference. We need to make a difference. And in making a difference you will find your fulfillment and eventually your enlightenment. Excellent on a on a recent episode of the podcast. You mentioned that you were raised by aliens yet. Not wolves well first.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

Think 100%: The Coolest Show

08:03 min | 1 year ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

"Know if if if the us can really need on showing like climate action isn't just about fighting over a carbon tax or carbon trading or whatever it is abstraction it's about investment that improves people's day to day lives the most discarded and the most excluded first of all so it means state of the art free public transit or extremely affordable transit It means green public housing useful. Green public housing You know that that that that is the kind of place that people are gonna wanna live that. That really improves quality of life. You have some real showcases like that I think that's going to be catalytic because what's so scandalous about what what governments like like canada have done while claimed climate leaders is. They really haven't shown people how this can improve their lives right. It's still. it's still framed as something. That's taking something away from you. As opposed to something that is actually going to be enlivening and improving daily life. That's now and that so hope you heard it right here. The you got the rundown so on on earth day by last few questions. I want to really kick this topic. I think this is very important to get into racing class in this moment last year. We've had eight a year a reckoning and so this act these almost I don't know the term Against this not hometown. Knock through him right. Here we get to the end of this conversation. so the first one. He had his simply axes. What is your race in class analysis in like thirty seconds do that. We're going to get the rest of the two. I mentioned earlier. The term racial capitalism from cedric robinson. Malate cedric robinson. And i think it is really useful in the context of understanding the climate emergency Because what that teaches us. Is that what we call. Capitalism today was built Through the hierarchy of humanity known as white supremacy that you that the original inputs to the industrial economy that created the excess capital that fueled the industrial revolution were stolen african peoples and stolen indigenous plants and those original fest which required an ideology of your quote unquote scientific racism. That that that that that created this hierarchy of humanity that that that that that creates the rationale to say it is somehow occa- to steal these people's land into steal these people because they aren't exactly people And we have the manifest destiny a to do so creates the excess capital that then unleashes the power of fossil fuels that then creates climate change. That's the story we're in the story where living is You can't have an economy built on fossil fuels without sacrificial people. There's no way to do this. Without polluting people without colluding lands and so there needs to be that race and class hierarchy that says some people are more disposable than other people and that is where we're going to get our workers in without is where we're going to site our industry enough where we're gonna mind lands and so is built in from the beginning and there's no way to prior art. We've tried to pry it apart and we built our satellite movements. And that's how we've deliberately weakened ourselves out That's how you create a week loop it. Thank you Be more questions read. Fires were looking for rapid fire. Head In your book on fire elsewhere you have written about. You're learning about climate reparations from black indigenous people at at How does that learning shop in your work. It's interesting live with the very first article i wrote about. Climate change was a piece on climate reparations called climate rage for rolling stone in two thousand nine And i actually Had been working on a piece about reparations not about climate but about about reparations for slavery and colonialism and had heard from a group of bolivian activists and politicians. the day. believed that because these issues were all connected that the climate was led the best way into under Actually winning real reparations And so i guess one of the ways it shows up in my work is when i when i wrote this changes. Everything started with a quote from bolivian climate. Change negotiator nanan. Halacha varo calling for marshall plan for planet earth In this is we use these appraises like green new deal now. But that's what she was calling for. Concord global green new deals quoted a marshall plan for planet. Earth a mobilization of technology and resources of the scale Never seen before that would recognize. The debt owed chew the global south by the global north and also the global south in the global north right though sacrificial communities those colonies Within within a wealthy countries like the united states may i would argue possibly louisiana. The bill Certainly puerto rico And so in recognizing the core injustice the climate crisis. Which is that the that it. It is a crisis largely created by the wealthy that That that seventy percent of emissions come from the twenty percent richest people on the planet And yet the effects of those emissions are overwhelmingly felt by the people least responsible for the crisis. The lowest amidror's people with the smallest carbon footprint. There is a core injustice baked into this crisis which if we recognize would demand a transfer resources within rich countries from rich to poor and between rich and poor countries and that's that's the that's the revolutionary power of climate change and. I don't think it's an inconvenient truth row. i think it's a convenient one. Because what is inconvenient. Are the scars that a of injustice what supremacy and inequality that scar world. And if we actually reckon with the root of this crisis in that core economic in that core injustice of the climate crisis demands a transfer of resources and that's actually the way he builds something like a fair world So i don't see it as inconvenient at all actually see it as justice beautiful. Yeah well this is my last question that i'll cut out once a week and make sure you and thank you so much for your time and this so this is your last the last one. I well thank you again to hear you. Pacific -ly what is your contribution to the future. And how were you making.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

Think 100%: The Coolest Show

06:45 min | 1 year ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

"On its own terms right that the economy was growing You know that you're you can't that that that they're these were response to crisis. Come back to where we started right. these were responses to to to to countries decimated by war by by by the great depression by the dust bowl by the civil war. And so what. I would here even just like a year and a half ago was like. Yeah but we were. We can't do that when the economy's doing well right And what what. What are the arguments that i made in favor of a green new deal style response was that it was recession proof with that if there was another economic crisis in capitalism produces these crises Cyclically that this was a ready made response to how to get the economy back on track in a way that that that simultaneously address other crises that we face economic in massive economic inequality systemic racism. And of course the climate crisis and with our moment with cova did we need obviously responses on this scale and now we have all experienced something that those of us born after the second world war had never experienced before. Which is this kind of radical change in a period of a year. We have all changed the way we lists radically right. We have all had to ask ourselves corp questions about what is essential in life And and that memory that we now have this very recent memory that yes. It is possible to change in the face of a crisis. That's the kind of thing that we need to harness down a faces a crime crisis. Joe biden was elected. Saying we're going to listen to the science And we need. We need that commitment. In the face of the climate crisis we need to be guided by the best science. Which tells us that global emissions need to cut in half in the next decade and for rich countries like the united states that have been polluting the most historically we need to do more and faster and we also have all these other crises and we can't pick and choose so we need to multitask like crazy. We need federal two problems at once. So i think that the that that biden has already adopted the framework of the climate justice movement in many ways. The thing i'm most hardened by another plenty. I'm not heartened by but the thing i most heartened by from this administration is back in a moment like every other moment of crisis since climate change has been a political issue whenever there is another crisis that could potentially compete with climate change. Climate change has been immediately sacrificed right. So they're they're focused than there's a financial crisis story. We can't care about climate change. We've got worry about the economy. I think what is what is really worth paying attention to about what we're seeing from. This administration is a victory of the movement is that biden has has been forced to say. No we have a we. We are in a time of. We've four crises economic health climate and racial injustice and and to keep them off front and center and to say we have to have we have to have solutions that respond to all of these crises. And if he can continue with that framework continue to be guided by both science injustice. As in this moment i think it will have impacts around the world. You mentioned justin trudeau and canada. I mean all already. Frankly the fact. That biden Move to to cancel. Keystones is putting trudeau to shame in this one of the things that i think you know in in in the us where only during the trump era the focus was necessarily on getting rid of trump's but one of the one of the most dangerous things about donald trump internationally was that he lowered the bar so much that governments were able to do incredibly little still look halfway decent because everybody looks good in comparison to trump so this when it came to justin trudeau came to power just before trump and and positioned himself as an anti-trump. It was just too easy to do. Right he did this on immigration and he did this on climate and and he did it on gender issues but the truth is what he did was extremely symbolic You know he would put it out. Means at the same time he bought oil pipelines to push them through indigenous land and so You know. I think that if we can keep the pressure on by To do more in. So that means not just kevin keystone but dapple and line three and really what we need is as you know the keystone principle which is no new fossil fuel infrastructure. Curious we are in a crisis. We need to wind down existing fossil fuel projects. We need a just transition. We need to leave no worker behind. We need to make sure that front line communities are first in line. I mean all of these core principles of environmental justice But you know if if if the us is doing that then it becomes a lot harder for governments like canada to talk out of both sides of their mouth as they've been doing and they've really gotten a free ride in the trump era in a trudeau. Like like i said. I mean he. He spent billions of dollars buying tar sands pipeline literally. Buy it from an american company that wanted out because there was so much indigenous resistance do this pipeline that goes from alberta british columbia. It's a massive pipeline expansion. The transplant pipeline That that that that kinder- morgan said we're out. We're not going to build this thing. Justin trudeau comes in spanish. I think seven billion dollars buying the pipeline and says are going to build it. We're going to personally build it. This is a guy who's saying. I'm a climate leader right. And after five years in power you can't point to a single major glean Infrastructure projects that this government has led is really change. The country right. They have spent five years fighting over oil pipe blocks. It's such a waste. it's so amazing. And so this is why you.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

Think 100%: The Coolest Show

07:44 min | 1 year ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

"Are very clear. They don't take money from corporations. They they they they they. They have core principles around around aligning with frontline communities. And whether or not they live up to those principles is know. I is a separate debate. Abu but but you know i have a whole chapter In in this changes everything about just the scandalous Funday of some of the biggest groups like nature conservancy main. Edf on the coolest show. You know this this this place to listen. Listen they're funded by wall street. Edf a group like eds is not powerful because it has a mass membership you know And end at an in in because it is a big movement it's powerful because it has tons of money and it has tons of money because it is funded by the gates started getting a massive amount of funding from wall street in in the nineteen eighties. So yes a group like that. I think deliberately plays that that. That referee will quote unquote referee. But but the deals that get made systematically sacrificed frontline communities So it's like yeah you can keep polluting but will buy some set over here and so the community that is polluted which is invariably are almost invariably community color invariably a poor community Is is is sacrificed in the name of of some compromises than you you you buy a forest somewhere in the global south and the indigenous people who used to have access to that forest for their livelihood get locked out turns into a kind of a tree museums. And then you know it's just another form of financial you know game play right. You're moving carbon around around. The financial markets like derivatives and. That's the rule that group that some of these groups of played really sinister roles. In my view i tell a story in this changes. Everything about the nature conservancy actually Getting into the oil drilling business on a piece of land that they were protecting And and they. They decided to make some money by allowing oil drilling on Conservation lands of that. Were there's You wouldn't think a a green group would itself be drilling for oil. But there's some shocking stuff going on. I do think it is important to differentiate between back kind of quote unquote big green and three fifty and greenpeace And friends of the earth. I mean they they. They're not all alike but they all have big sierra club. You know a a a big big problem Some of them are taking more seriously than than others in some ways. I think it's too kind Because referee would involve some kind of like negotiation with the most with both sides and many of these deals get made got made without any communication with with the people who are being sacrificed. It was just a backroom deal that the people found out about after the fact right. Well there's so much there. I think that We have to really look at you. Know what it means to be an ally and what it means to be to be an accomplished and also what it what it means to hold accountable and measurable. I think a lot of times. I've seen you know small groups and communities who actually worked directly with a few companies because they have because they've been having been touched by To organizations and that they've come and say i get in five or ten thousand dollars And then they're being they're being over the coals And i'm like well why we support him. I mean why. Don't i mean how can you. How can you have one hundred million dollars fifty dollars or two thousand dollars. And then you're running these of the coals for taking twenty thousand. Why don't we figure out how to give those organizations and groups. Take away the need to want to work with But that's a that's a much bigger piece. actually this interview. Thank you so much. This is amazing This competition is actually going to play on earth day so And that's directly. Because they're the new administration is hosting a world climate summit on earth day. So kinda want your voice to be voice that parallels that so knowing that what you're saying now is going to be heard on earth day what do you want to see happen To to make to make that summit meaningful and share any ideas you have on ship between biden and the prime minister of canada. Happy future day. I think we have real potential in this moment And the. I think they're the greatest opportunity that we have is that for a long time. A lot of us have recognized that we are up against such a profound crisis You know that it does require a scale of action and mobilization that has not been seen since the second world war and the trouble. Was that most of us have never had a lived experience with that speed of change with that scale of change right within. Look at history and say oh well. Didn't they do something where they retrofitted all the factories and changed everything virtually overnight or we can think about what happened during during the new deal with dozens and dozens of new programs in rural electrification in massive funding for the arts and n two billion trees planted by this conservation corps Able to do that in the nineteen thirties. But you know we're not going to be able to do that with capitalism roaring at the at the speed that it's worrying now You know and obviously historical A reference points. It's not to say we want to imitate it because both of them ek system adequately discriminated against excluded Black people immigrants women So we need. We need something. We've never done before right. But the reason why i think it is worthwhile thinking about moments in history where deep transformation was on the agenda concluding reconstruction Is that it shows that it is possible that it isn't a human nature that is incapable of change. It right it is something about our current system and the reason why i say that we are at a relief unique moment. Is that the the the argument against changing like that at that scale at that speed reface of the climate crisis was that our economy wasn't crisis by.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

Think 100%: The Coolest Show

08:23 min | 1 year ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

"So yeah so. I just want us to cop to that. Like i think it's not only the big green groups that put up those barriers in a way. Like i think i. I grew up in the neil era and i did my own version of silos and then realize wait a minute All of these issues intersect. This is a glimpse of the whole the future where we're headed or we have heavy weather. Intersecting with weakened neglected infrastructure that has been systematically underfunded for half a century and white supremacy overlaying the whole thing which blames the victims and abandons them and creates this hierarchy of humanity in the middle of a disaster. That's what we saw right in new orleans or one way of looking at it but your question around. What are they thinking when they when they when they do their version of nece which is like serse we saved the world. Then we worry about poverty and racism and more because if we don't save the world then added that will matter. I mean i've literally heard that argument. Yeah i've seen the argument. And when i wrote this changes everything you know. Folks took me aside and they're like. Why are you making our job harder by talking about capitalism in reparations and colonialism like you're weighing us population so in answer to your question what i what i discovered for one look. I think there's many answers one of those just about power and feeling threatened right like the these are groups that are lead overwhelmingly by white people and if frontline movements are leading than it means that those folks are not leading means that they're having to learn to follow and people hold onto power people hold onto control so i think that there's like a personal answer there but then i also think that there was genuinely a perception and this is what i was told when i was when i wrote this changes. Everything was that climate was popular winnable and these other issues were unpopular right And i think you see the same thing in these arguments within the democratic party around like are we going to appeal to suburban voters. Or you know. And it's it's it's you can't pry apart what obviously you can't make that argument in less you. Yourself are discounting the huge numbers of black and brown people who are engaged with these issues. And you somehow don't see them as part of a winning coalition or in fact the key to winning coalition so mean. I think that that was the argument that was made to me was like christ changes popular at can appeal across partisan divides Everyone has grandkids. This is kind of like a very broad tent and if you talk about all those issues you mentioned it white supremacy palestine. God forbid you know you're going to narrow right. So they positioned they petitioned climate. Has this big tent that everybody can get into but as you say. Everyone doesn't get him for it. Because if you are fighting for your own survival and this movement so called is not talking about it. Then you're not gonna join that movement because it's not your movement right so know that's that's what do you think it is. No no of all just did a lot there. Thank you for that. That was that was that was a that was a mouthful. And i hope he will really meditate on what you said. I guess this respond to what you said by my response would be then. How can you expect a world to transition from fossil fuels to clean energy when you can't transition from white supremacy and so that goes back to this also that if it's unpopular than how can we expect quote unquote run into movement to truly be an anti racist movement. If if they feel this weighs them down in other words if they really feel like this becomes too heavy or awkward or uncomfortable Or unwinnable really touch me when you said that that oak i mean the the literally the opposite is true. You know you think if something you know a a standing rock you know which which was absolutely game changing in terms of building public support for for stopping fossil fuel infrastructure entirely indigenous leads And rooted in place and grounded in core environmental justice principles and the quality of the fights right the way people fight when they are fighting for their water when they're fighting for their future when they're fighting for their land is different than the way we fight when we're fighting around an abstract issue that doesn't that yes we're concerned about but doesn't impact us tomorrow right And and and and the quality of the fight you know what i mean by the quality of the fight is like i mean my god. The courage right in at standing rock It's not the same. And i i don't want to this. You know having a big march. I think big marches matter. But that's different than living on the land for months and and fight and standing up to water cannons and attack. dogs That that that's a different kind of fight. And i think the lesson of that is that when I think there's so many lessons from standing rock but but when people are fighting for for their lives they're they're willing to take bigger risks. They're willing to fight hell of a lot harder And movements that are the movements that went throughout history right. And so this idea that is somehow more strategic to have this broad tent. That is gonna agree on this sort of baseline mushy demand of climate action. Whatever that means right not even specifying what we mean by climate action which is climate action. You know a movement like that isn't gonna have that quality of fight isn't going to have that that nazi city right we're up against very powerful forces right and that's that's the. That's the flip side of this that we always have to remember where we're up against the richest companies on planet earth with the ability to have their own private armies. So if we are not willing to fight like hell we are gonna lose. No and i think that's. That's that's very real. I think when i think about So many of those who really lummus gave their lives during the standing rock I think about our sisters and brothers throughout the world like but the service who have given their lives for this movement. I i sometimes wonder if the the the the quote from into movie is getting in the way because of that because actually we know that the fossil fuels business plan means a death sentence for these communities but on the other side we also know that the the movement in other words from typically from black and brown and indigenous and people of color if they if they want me they destined to the fossil fuel industry. I almost feel like sometimes the department to move his referee inbetween. I feel like sometimes they get in between to kind of placate almost like they haven't escape route. They have a place where they can go where you know we can. Do you know we can always dip from this fight. And so it feel like sometimes. They marginalized those who illustrated dying. And i think. And i think that's a that's that we have to deal with our movement or sir absolutely mean i get into some of this. This changes everything. I mean in all all big. Green groups aren't alike as you know there are some big green.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

Think 100%: The Coolest Show

07:50 min | 1 year ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

"Were Were seen as necessary. When communism was a real threat to capitalism where you sort of had to had to let people unionize and and give people some kind of social safety net or else the fear was. They would actually become socialist right. And so the neil what we call. Neoliberalism is a lot of jargon right but you'll liberalism. I sometimes describe as like capitalism lying on the couch and it's underwear saying what are you gonna do. Leave me like it's it's it's it's it's capitalism is not afraid of competition which is which is not a good thing because then you don't actually have to to throw those bones you know you don't have to make those concessions should And the argument. That i that i made in the shock. Doctrine is that if we look at where this ideology has advanced. It has very often advanced on the backs of large-scale crises and shocks society is wearing such a state of profound an in such a state of emergency that they weren't be able to participate in political lives in the same way and katrina was a huge eye opener for me in this Because it was just so brutal right because as you know the the the people of new orleans were literally not in their city had been forcibly evacuated but not even evacuated. that's not a correct term because evacuation implies a plan to return people were were shipped all over one way ticket at gunpoint that in many cases You know in every to every state. It was extraordinarily no. I often find that. Something's become more shocking. With time. as opposed to less shocking you know and you think about that. Think about just that strategy of spreading people out at every single state to alaska with no wave coming back and wild. They're gone you know i. I opened the shock to quote from the late. Free extreme free market economist milton. Friedman wrote an article in the wall street journal and said New orleans schools are closed if the parents and teachers are spread throughout the country loses a crisis. It's also an opportunity. An opportunity to radically remake the education system and then he proposed giving parents vouchers that they could use in private schools. And and now new orleans says the most privatized system in the united states. It became a laboratory for charter schools. So that strategy right and that's just one example and you know the of demolished public housing. That wasn't even damaged by the storm. So of course. This affects poor overwhelmingly black and latino populations more than anyone else And it's it's a land grabs in the case of of of of the public. Housing is obviously a land. Grab but teachers. Unions talked about what was happening in the schools as an educational landgrab. We've seen this pattern. Repeat after every single crisis including copen and so we go back to the to the those eons ago to the trump era. Betsy devos was doing the same thing. I mean people say well. Why wasn't she supporting schools. And and giving them what they needed Because she wanted she wanted she. The animating force and betsy devos is life is that she does not believe in public education and she saw the pandemic as an opportunity to advance the same thing milton. Friedman was advancing in the aftermath of katrina of voucher. School system And and so. We've seen a lot of that happening. There's a there's good reason to worry that. When schools are finally able to reopen a lot of them are going to be facing a severe funding crisis. Because they've lost a lot of families they've lost their tax bases and says it can be a real test for the new administration. There are so many examples of using the pandemic for disaster capitalism. You know i mean the tech companies have been really busy At a lot of them would like to hold onto a lot of the kind of virtual learning virtual health care because this is a kind of back door privatization right. You've got public schools. That are suddenly moving to google zoom. And so on. The trump administration used cova do rollback every kind of regulation particularly environmental regulations So this is a big challenge for for for the biden administration because they've been busy but a lot of what they've been busy doing undoing writing and that's not enough because it was a crisis before trump was crisis during the obama years. So even if you just 'and if you spend all your time just undoing the damage you you don't end up. Even at the starting point of the trump era because of course climate change has been getting worse all the time. So we actually need more had a catalytic action I agree let me actually a question. Now as you look back katrina was now fifteen And a half years ago and we look look back on that. And i know for me as you know when i went back home to new orleans louisiana you know. My life was threatened by the police in gretna specifically because i wanted to uncover when they stopped the people on the bridge and myself and cynthia mckinney With a conference at the time you know we i loosely threatened and so we had a meeting back then talking about this and and when that came up is one of the elders in the meetings said this i never will forget it She mentioned to us. she says. Why are we so surprised that they moved us. Thousands of miles away When they did that to the slave trade when they gave us a one way ticket and they stole not only our our our city but they stole our continent. And so as you look back is the shot is a really shot doctrine or is it a status quo doctrine that we have here in the united states of america. These absolutely these are continuities. There is there. This is nothing brand new About this strategy a machiavelli's the prince at once this is this is the the authoritarian strategy is to exploit that state of trauma And certainly what happened in new orleans And you know what is called set increasingly. Climate gentrification is a continuation of the transatlantic slave trade colonialism indigenous land. I mean the foundations of the country. And this is why. I guess coming back to your question about the inconvenient truth. If we're willing to look at this crisis with our eyes open it requires that kind of depths of analysis and that the bandaids of we can just fix this with a few little tweaks and don't go too deep. You never brought us anywhere really. I mean if just measure emission reductions ready to. Berg says like enough with the bla-bla-bla elites have been talking about reducing emissions for more than sixty years and.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

Think 100%: The Coolest Show

07:43 min | 1 year ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Think 100%: The Coolest Show

"Next day respect information education read nick around dot now. The world is not hit by all right. Well i am so excited for this interview. Because i have my dear sister. I only climb and she is an amazing award. Winning journalist cowardice in author Of the new york times in international bestseller's No logo decide doctrine. This changes everything. No is not enough and on fire. She is which have been translated into thirty languages. And for me. I love because they are also audible books which have been just enjoying listening to them as well so my sister how are you. I'm i am good. I'm really glad to see you and talk to you and visit with you. Know i mean yeah nice. Good him you got to get into. And i know from our world. You are a well-known professor writer. A i guess a climate celebrity in some aspects. Because of this to work you do But for folks who might not know you please audience who is my only clients. I'm sure well yeah as you said. I write books. That's the main thing. I do A written about a bunch of them. now And i've been writing about climate change for the past. Fifteen years i came to my earlier. Work was around economic justice. Human rights racial justice My first book was called no logo and it was about the rise of corporate power and how that was impacting workers Artists leading to precarity In all kinds of precariousness in in all in all kinds of ways and And then i started. And i think this is sort of. Maybe where we first connected. I started writing about the imposition of brutal economic policies. Through shocks through through war era. I started writing about the invasion of iraq. And i and i developed this framework called disaster capitalism. Where the shock doctrine to cry a process of using large scale shocks to push through privatization deregulation brutal economic austerity. that hurts the poor. Most of all And that brought me to new orleans In the aftermath of hurricane katrina and so. I never saw myself as like an environmental writer or climate change person but katrina kind of pulled me in taught me a bunch of lessons really fast about the intersection of climate. Change capitalism's White supremacy as it did so many people who who saw that that disaster unfold in in such profoundly unjust ways no actually. I didn't know that angle. I mean i knew that angle. Because you're right for those listening. I i actually am a member of veterans for peace and i am also number of iraq. Veterans against the war was a former officer in the air force. Who spoke out against the iraq west where i met my dear sister and that life and then as i went from the war to nor warming we have we. I saw her work in regards to my home state of louisiana and saw definitely with her work in regards to shock doctrine. In regards to new orleans in the in in your viewpoint was incubating choose. The climate crisis was inconvenient. Truth white supremacy of both. I think it was bowls and underlying both the victim. The most inconvenient truth of all for elites was that you couldn't addressed the climate crisis without simultaneously upending the whole system. And so i think this stage of the climate movement that was kind of embodied by that film by the inconvenient truth was climate movement still in in its own state of denial right. Because it was like. Here's this huge crisis. But first here's a look. Here's a pie chart. And if you change your light bulbs here and you introduced fuel-efficiency there will just get this thing done in this really technocratic way you're barely notice it as our body. Roy says you know how with class environmentalism the question. how do we change without changing And so i think that the inconvenient truth that even the inconvenient truth wasn't willing to confront back in that came out in two thousand six thousand seven was actually knows. It's not going to be technocratic solutions. It's going to be going to the deep deep roots of that intersection between capitalism white supremacy. What cedric robinson. called racial capitalism that created the climate crisis and and all of the other crises. That are intersecting with this. No i i agree. And i think about it. And we looked back your your. Your work was prophetic In many ways What we in a new moment as you know. And then your work you have laid out the path to break down disaster capitalism and it's designed to immobilize and exploit so as many are still celebrating a new regime in the biden harris administration. Can you breakdown how. The doctrine played out in your expensive multiple crises. The pandemic sold on the poor black communities and the environment and how would the sack doctrine playing right now especially for the most marginalized sure lots of ways just to like just to be clear about what we mean by the shock doctrine. So this is the shock. Doctor refers to a strategy a theory of power. Which i argue has been very much in play over the last half century. Where we've seen the rise of this really am gloves off form of capitalism that is sometimes called neoliberalism afraid which is identified with ronald reagan and margaret thatcher in the uk and this was just Just the capitalism without the sort of bones thrown to working people right That.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

02:09 min | 2 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on KGO 810

"And I'm going to jump to the phones right now. We're going to talk with David in San Francisco. David. Hi. Welcome to kgo. Yeah, Wish I could have asked Erin. It sounds like what he was laying out, was right along the lines of Naomi Klein's book about vulture capitalist, right? The shock doctrine. And when you look at the the the Cabinet, you know we've got Mnuchin, of course, is the secretary of Treasury. He's a vulture capitalist. The secretary of commerce is Wilbur Ross, and in Wikipedia, he's listed as the king of for King of Bankruptcies. Pollution is also listed is the king of foreclosures. You look a TTE Betsy DeVos secretary of education. She wants to decimate the school district's and that would be a land grab. You know, this Cove in crisis is going to bankrupt a whole lot of schools. And then all of a sudden these vulture capitalists who would be ableto buy up all of the land of the schools. And then, of course, Trump has gotten most of his properties through Ah, disaster capitalism. The redevelopment agencies declare them is blighted zones. So it sounds like this is a massive conspiracy, and you can't expect that bar is going to prosecute him for it. So what prosecutions could we do on a local scale? Thiss being an election year? We're gonna have a lot of district attorneys and judges up for election. Let's make this campaign issue that that if they run on a platform of prosecuting people that use vulture capitalism To basically did destroy the middle class of America. I guess David. It's a fascinating idea. And I guess what we would first have to ascertain is exactly what laws were broken or if the laws have been written to allow this vulture capitalism to exist. I like the idea. I think it's something perhaps we should pursue. Maybe we could get some guests on who would be in a position to start those prosecutions and ask about it. This is kgo. Florida remains one.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

Radio Free Nashville

03:24 min | 2 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

"Our mountain treasures. Its Nita Marvin University Book Club Today we're reading from Naomi Klein's brilliant This Cane is everything this from the introduction A voice came over the intercom with the passengers of Flight Flight 3935 scheduled to depart Washington D. C for Charleston, South Carolina, finally collect their carry on luggage and get off the plane. I went down the stairs and gathered on the hot tarmac, and they saw something unusual. The wheels of the US Airways jet had sunk into the black pavement as if it was wet cement. The wheels were lodged so deep, in fact, that the truck that came to tow the plane away couldn't pry it loose. Airline and hope that without the added weight of the Plains, 35 passengers the aircraft would be light enough to pull it wasn't someone posted a picture. Why is my flight cancelled? Is D C. It's so damn hot that our planes sank four inches into the pavement. Eventually, a larger, more powerful vehicle was brought in to tow the plane, and this time it worked. The plane finally took off three hours behind schedule. Spokesperson for the airline blamed the incident on very unusual temperatures. Temperatures in the summer attempt, 2012 were indeed unusually hot as they were the year before and the year before. It's no mystery. Why this has been happening. The profligate burning of fossil fuels the only Very thing that US Airways was bound and determined to do despite the inconvenience presented by melting tarmac. The irony of the fact that the burning of fossil fuels is so radically changing our climate that it's getting in the way of our capacity to burn fossil fuels did not stop the passengers of Flight 39 35 from re embarking and continuing their journeys. Nor was climate change mentioned in any of the major news coverage of the incident. I'm in no position to judge these passengers. All of us who live high consumer lifestyles, wherever we happen to reside are metaphorically passengers on flight 39 35. Faced with a crisis that threatens our survival as a species. Our entire culture is continuing to do the very thing that caused the crisis on Lee with an extra dose of elbow grease behind it. Like the airline, bringing in a truck with a more powerful engine to tow. That plane, global economy is upping the ante from conventional sources of fossil fuels, even dirt here and more dangerous versions. Bitterman from the Alberta Tar Sands oil from deep water drilling. He asked him hydraulic fracturing fracking pole from detonated mountains and so on. Meanwhile, each supercharged natural disaster produces new irony laden snapshots of acclimate increasingly inhospitable to the very industry's most responsible for its warming. Like the 2013 historic floods in Calgary that forced the head offices of the oil companies mining the Alberta Tar Sands to go dark and send their employees home while a train carrying flammable petroleum products teetered on the edge of a disintegrating rail bridge. Or the drought hit the Mississippi River one year earlier, wishing water levels so low that barges loaded with coal and oil. We're unable to move for days while they waited for the Army Corps of Engineers to dredge a channel. I had to appropriate funds allocated to rebuild from the previous year's historic flooding along the same waterway. Or the coal fired power plants in other parts of the country that we're temporarily shut down is the waterways that they draw into cooler machinery worry the too hot or too dry or, in some cases, both Living with this kind of cognitive dissonance is part simply part of being alive. In this jarring moment of history in a crisis we have been.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on The Bone 102.5

The Bone 102.5

02:46 min | 2 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on The Bone 102.5

"For all this changes everything cold I he's right capitalism versus the climate by Naomi Klein Anne Klein provocative book unveils the myths surrounding the climate change debate and explores how the free market is holding us back from important changes congratulations you're going to the fair my man product research had reset you did well done well played I really think it's best to somebody wins at least we you know I mean like I like a bunch of people lose and then somebody wins so that we might have a you know feel good moment at the end of it all right and you did sufficiently stop a number of I thank you really really what you did is you you got retribution for a week thank you I hope you I hope you know that you did I feel retribution seven two seven five seven nine one a two five and eight hundred seven seven one one two two five talk to me about your well first let me tell you I'm fascinated by this this Papa John's story this guy just can't keep his mouth shut canny no he really can't and I don't I'm not gonna lie I really think this guy got railroaded when I hear him talk about what happened and I said at the time too like I there's part of me that feels like this guy really truly got railroaded I disagree ran out of his own company well I see where you would come up with that and I know what you're going to make that argument and I can't I can't say you're wrong I just disagree because he showed poor judgment but I have eaten Papa John's more the last year that I have than the previous ten I will tell you I think they're making a better product Papa John Slattery disagrees any he admitted to lying about something that is hilarious and we'll tell you what is next but first John let's talk about today I gotta say I go in every single week to many weight loss of south him before my way and it's right on Kennedy Boulevard great location and I had hit a spot where it was like two or three pounds a week and I was feeling really really good about that this is technically the fifth week the beginning of my six weeks so I go in for my way in today I step on that scale that breaks down your entire body composition gives you all the details first piece of good news you're very well hydrated look at that my blood pressure is great my health is great but I am down as of this week a nother seven point eight pounds how is it possible which makes that a total loss of twenty seven point eight pounds I could ride around up to a twenty eight but just for this moment I'll say twenty seven point eight pounds and it is all because of my friends of many weight loss of south LL start this this was the end of the fifth week so in five weeks I've lost twenty eight pounds and I feel I really truly feel better than I've ever felt I am lighter I everything about my mind feels clear and you can do the same you can start losing this weight today with a doctor supervised.

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Understanding Eco-Fascism

Eyes on Conservation Podcast

09:53 min | 2 years ago

Understanding Eco-Fascism

"Eko fascism ever heard of it or thought about it seems paradoxical but is it or is it a part of American history that has been there all along in an article dated August seven twenty nineteen G. Q.. Magazine yes yes G. Q.. Defined Eko Fascism as quote a belief that the only way to deal with climate change is through eugenics and the brutal suppression of migrants and quote. It's a philosophy that has roots in the American environmental movement. Dating back to the eighteen hundreds rate right down to the creation of our national park system. But let's start off with the recent events that inspired me to produce this episode on August Third Twenty nine a shooter in El Paso Texas Killed Twenty people at a Walmart near the border with Mexico. Nineteen minutes before the first nine one one call a hate filled. Anti immigrant manifesto appeared online. That was strangely called an inconvenient truth in the document the author makes his horrific case for ethnic cleansing as a solution to the climate crisis. I ask myself could. The shooter's deadly words and actions have been inspired by the rhetoric that has been spoken tweeted by the forty fifth president of the United States who has verbally attacked communities of color on more than one occasion this time. It's House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah. Cummings he wrote wrote. This Cummings district is disgusting rat and rodent infested mess. If he spent more time in Baltimore maybe he could help clean up this very dangerous and filthy place. No human being would want to live there infested usually reserved for references to rodents and and insects. But we've seen the president invoke infestation to criticize lawmakers before you see a pattern here just two weeks ago president trump to protect four minority congresswoman. Why don't they go back to the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came reminder three of them were born here all of them are or American infested? He says a week before his inauguration January two thousand seventeen congressman. John Lewis should spend more time on fixing in helping his district which is in horrible shape and falling apart not to mention crime infested. Donald Trump has tweeted more than forty three thousand times James. He's insulted thousands of people many different types of people but when he tweets about infestation it's about black and Brown people September number two thousand fourteen at the height of an urgent health. Emergency why are we sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into IMBOULA. If Ebola infested areas of Africa bring the plague to the. US Obama is so stupid infested. He says there's a revolution going on in California. So many sanctuary areas is one out of this ridiculous crime infested and breeding concept infested. He says the President says about congressman. Cummings district that no human would would wanNA live there. You know who did Mr President I did. From the day I was brought home from the hospital to the day left for college and a lot of people put care about still do their challenges. No doubt but people are proud of their commuted. One sound self-righteous but people get up and go to work there the care for their families there. They love their children. WHO pledge allegiance to the flag? Just like people. Oh who live in districts of Congressman. Who Support You sir? They are Americans too. We'll be right back. After after the El Paso tragedy. I started reading articles that referred to the term Eko fascism. There seemed to be more than one. Example of racially motivated terrorist wrist attacks in the news from Christchurch New Zealand to Pittsburgh Pennsylvania to California but none so directly connected to the climate crisis as the El Paso shooting which made me deeply concerned about the ways in which humans will react when the crisis worsens. Will it bring bring out the best in humanity or the worst. I began to think more deeply about the foundations of America. Correct me if I'm wrong but post colonial. The American history seems to be filled with examples of ECO fascist ideas and axe our very own declaration of independence refers to indigenous indigenous people of this continent as merciless Indian savages. And yet. This is still a document that we celebrate every year with a national holiday and the principles of manifest destiny. An eminent domain made way for a government led genocide children being separated from their parents put in detention centers and even killed by the American government. These practices are also not new from the slave trade to Indian residential schools. American history has already set precedence every single day that we wake up we are living out our lives on stolen land. This is our history. It's history that we shouldn't turn away from no matter how hard it is to look at it. I know this is a dark subject. But it's an important one one if we don't look directly at our shadows cells. How will we ever heal in a recent interview? In The Guardian activist writer. Naomi Klein referred referred to this concept as climate barbarism. because she connected the dots. So well I'm going to read her words here. She states quote white supremacy emerged. Not just because people felt like thinking of ideas that we're going to get a lot of people killed but because it was useful to protect barbaric but highly profitable actions. The age of scientific racism begins alongside the transatlantic slave trade. It is a rationale for that brutality. If we were going to respond to climate change by fortress seeing our borders then of course the theories that would justify that that create. These hierarchies orchids of humanity will come surging back. There have been signs of that for years but it is getting harder to deny because you have killers who are screaming it from the rooftops unquote and then Naomi speaks of the environmental movement quote when you have a movement that is overwhelmingly Wellm Ingley representative of the most privileged sector of society. Then the approach is going to be much more fearful of change because people who you have a lot to lose tend to be more fearful of change whereas people who have a lot to gain will tend to fight harder for it. I have had many many conversations with environmentalists over the years where they seem to believe that. By linking fighting climate change with fighting poverty or fighting racial justice. It's it's GonNa make the fight harder. We have to get out of this quote. Mike crisis is bigger than your crisis. I we save the planet and then we fight poverty and racism them and violence against women unquote. That doesn't work that alienates the people who would fight hardest for change unquote as middle middle class educated white women WHO considers herself an environmentalist for social justice. An ally in the struggle for racial equality and racial equity. I felt compelled up to bring the issues of Echo Fascism and environmental racism to the Isan Conservation. podcast I hope this episode shines light on our shadow selves an offers inspiration on how to move forward will start this episode with a close. The camps protest attended on August Thirty First Twenty nineteen scene in downtown San Francisco. I'm on my way down to the close the camps protest in downtown San Francisco right in front of the ICE building. This protest today is part of the month of momentum that has been a month long a series of events and protests and ways to get involved in the movement to close down the concentration camps that are are at the border of the United States and Mexico so every day when I turn on the news and I hear more stories about the conditions of the camps and the fact that children are in cages. Children are dying people are dying in the camps. I I'm I'm basically as heartbroken and petrified as I am about the climate crisis CICIS I see these both the climate craigslist and our humanitarian crisis. That's happening at the border right now. As one in the same basically the way that we're treating a world is the way that we treat ourselves and other people and eight and so I needed to do something and so I decided to come down and spend my Saturday morning here. At the close the camps is protest down at ice in San Francisco on August thirty first twenty

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

Radio Free Nashville

09:29 min | 3 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

"Less popular school of thought sees Russia under Putin as well we can declining power the book the Russia trap. or or. this is the Thom Hartmann program welcome back to American here with you and in the studio with me which is like super cool is Naomi Klein she has a new book out on fire the burning case for green new deal tonight she and I will be at work you will principally be I'll be kinda am scene I guess the thing tonight at Powell's books in in Beaverton and then from there and that's today's Wednesday tomorrow Thursday you're gonna be in Oakland at the first congregational church Friday you're gonna be in San Matteo Saturday you're gonna be in Chico California I have done these kinds of bookstores in fact I did one just died three months ago for for my book on guns and boy it it just runs a ragged I I wish you the very best on. thanks thanks for joining us it's great to be with you Tom and Naomi Klein dot org by the way if you want to get tickets are you get more interest in information on this you have a list yeah there you go you're traveling less these days so it's so it's fun I haven't been I haven't done a west coast speaking tour in awhile it's nice to be back I'm glad you can act with folks I'm glad yeah you and I've talked to over the years about a variety of things from capitalism to climate and in your book brings a lot of this stuff together you know from weather was no longer our shock doctrine or this changes everything you know so it just brilliant brilliant writing that you do what's what's the principal message of on fire. well I think the most important thing to understand about the moment where at is that we are living a time of three fires we've got the climate fires the the whether it's in the Pacific Northwest every summer these seasons of smoke we're seeing wild fires yeah in the arctic Siberia places where you're not supposed to have wild fires as grace gratitude Burke says our house is on fire and we've known this for a long time but that's not the only kind of fires we are faced with facing we also have that political fires of the of the far right that increasingly our building political power by creating this it in group the protected the in group and that all of these out group others and petting the in group against the out group give me an examiner. here in the United States it's obvious with trump and and the the the specter of the invading army of immigrants but you know he's been prowling around with moody lately and mode he does the same thing with the in group of Hindus the out groups of Muslims we see a similar MO with a lot of these figures and that's a militarization of whole of of borders mass incarceration of these outgroup others it keeps people fighting with each other and it keeps them freed to plunder and boasts an arrow is doing the same thing in Brazil and they there is an outright war on truth on faxed him boss and are just addressed the United Nations and said the Amazon wasn't on fire actually it's just a big misinformation campaign I think there's a connection between the sort of that the rise of the far right and the fact that we are in this moment where climate the climate crisis is no longer a future crisis we're living at work in it I think people understand that we are now in an era where where more and more people are going to be on the move looking for safety looking to share their remaining habitable places on our planet and I think that's why we're seeing ace eight a resurgence of ideologies that just explicitly rank human life these people are better than those people and if that's true well then it's okay to let them drown to let them die to lock them up indefinitely and we're seeing this we're seeing in the Mediterranean here we're seeing your we're seeing it with the Australian government with their off shore and migration detention camps so. there is a third fire as well which is the fire is out of this growing climate justice movement and we just saw it burn pretty brightly on Monday with four million people around the world participating in these use organized crime it strikes but not just young people adults joining different sectors joining like tech workers and so it's kind of a race against time because we have a little bit more than a decade to cut global emissions in half if we are going to preserve you know anything like a a habitable planet so yeah that's I guess the message of my book is that that third fire the fire of our movements has to has to be powerful enough to take on the fires of the far right and I really think it's a green new deal that is our ticket for building that kind of broad movement that broad coalition and and I want to get to that in just a moment but the it here in the United States were actually seen climate refugees on our southern border I mean I was I was. yeah I'd read this stuff but then NBC went down to Guatemala and tracked back into some of these remote parts of Guatemala that a lot of these refugees are coming from and found literally places where people were starving to death because they're in the fifth year of a drought and there's literally no food that eating grass and tree marks and things and and this is the source of many of these people who are on our southern border the Donald Trump is throwing their children's in jail and and and in a passing out billions of dollars to his buddies in the private prison industry even as he cuts hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to Central America much of which was going to help farmers who are dealing with drought way and none of this is ever talked about in the context of climate change you know and I think they're very conscious of it though because if you look at what the trump administration has done with its immigration policy one of the first things they they did is take aim at TPS temporary protected status right purse for Haitian patience than for Salvadorans to these are millions of people who are in the United States under a program that provides status temporary status to people who are displaced by an ex some sort of extreme event in their countries the other is a refuge yes refugees but specifically people refugees from and when it lifts the good that the it lists the basis on which you can get temporary protected status can be worn by eight which is true for for for other ways of getting at refugees status but it specifically lists natural disasters and that's very significant because climate refugees you know we're talking about them the climate refugees actually don't exist under international law there is no such thing as a as a climate refugee under international refugee law it's dated because that it because our convention in before climate. from an earthquake well you actually can't. refugees from warns him at you know human you can get refugee status for because of human rights abuses but not because of natural disasters but TPS with an exception EPS like people from there if people from Haiti in the United States got T. P. S. because of the earthquake in Haiti and so they they have really understood that this is a loophole yes it's a loop Amy in the administration that allows people to get status because of natural disasters earthquakes aren't connected to climate change but super storms are and we just saw with the the the Bahamas that people are being refused entry to the United States and trump is calling them drug dealers you know in the aftermath of a cat category five hurricane right so I think they absolutely understand that that that that more and more people are going to be seeking haven because of the climate crisis and this is their climate change adaptation. their plan is is for the for testing of the borders and it's it's getting more and more explicit as much as anybody I know you're a citizen of the world he yeah I'm curious your thoughts on this whole impeachment fall overall here the the the and and and this transcript that you know I we've been talking about the last hour the the whistle blowers how the world views yes how should be viewing this Frank I mean well first of all I think it's a very good thing that finally. hi Nancy Pelosi has decided that enough is enough and at and has begun impeachment proceedings I think you could have it could could be gone before I'm glad it's happening now I'm glad it's and and I do think that it even though we know that the Senate is not going to. impeach him this will hurt him despite their bravado it's going to help our reelection is not I don't think it's gonna help and I think anything that keeps trump from getting a second term is incredibly important his what.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio

Democracy Now! Audio

07:49 min | 3 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio

"Hi I'm Amy Goodman. You Count on democracy now to stay focused on the stories that matter most we count on you to support our independent journalism democracy micro now is funded by you not by the oil the gas and the coal companies when we covered the climate crisis not by the weapons manufacturers when we cover war if everyone everyone who tunes into this podcast gave just four dollars we could cover our operating costs for the entire year really that's all it would take please do your part today by visiting us at democracy now dot. Org and thank you so much. This is democracy now. Democracy now dot org the warrant piece report. Naomi Klein is out with her new book. Today it's called on fire the burning case for for a green new deal and she joins us in studio for part two of our conversation. Naomi we ended part one of our conversation by talking about the presidential official candidates playing a clip of Bernie Sanders talking about the green new deal playing a clip of Senator Elizabeth Warren. I WANNA get your overall picture now about this debate within within the Democratic Party how much focus on the climate crisis with the DNC holding a vote the Democratic National Committee Tom Perez the chairman of the DNC prevailing linked. There would not be a debate specifically on the climate crisis because he another say before you know it they'll be debate on every other issue. How do you respond well. I I think it's a fundamental failure to understand the intersectional nature of this crisis right. I mean the climate crisis impacts everything from economic inequality to international relations to war to whether or not we're going to have a fair economic system to femicide Emma side. I mean in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria. We have seen a huge spike in domestic violence in murders of women. Basically climate change makes everything worse. I write whatever the stresses your society is under you add climate stresses on top of that and it gets worse so there are ways of talking about climate change indeed we need to be talking about climate change in an intersectional way that shows how we can't pry apart from from all of these other issues in the absence of the DNC that gets this that is going to create a platform for candidates to talk about how these issues are connected. We really have to rely on the candidates themselves who say they support a green new deal to do it in their stump speeches in a non climate theme debates. They can't wait for moderators to ask them about climate change. I mean if you say you support a green new deal which most of the candidates the say they do not Biden. Most of the other leading candidates say that they do. You can't wait for the moderator to ask you specifically weekly about climate change. This is your economic plan. This is related to what what your foreign policy is. This is related to your racial justice platform so this this is really the story of the next economy so the the candidates need to seize the reins and I think some of them are doing a better job than others. I think actually frankly all of them have a lot of work to do to really weave this into the stump speech so you're not waiting for the DNC. Hand you the opportunity to talk about your holistic. Nick Vision so evaluate the candidates positions on the climate crisis where you think they stand okay well. I don't have time to go through each one I think that the idea that that Joe Biden is a safe choice is not true on any level. I don't think he's safe electorally but I also so don't think that he's safe when it comes to climate because he's still within this paradigm of you know we can't spend too much. We can't do too much you know this `incrementalist approach that that actually leads us to this incredibly unsafe place which is a warming world of three to four degrees additional warming so but set by the the side. I don't think it will come as a huge surprise to your listeners and viewers and I'm not Biden Fan. I think the biggest difference that that I would point to has to do with Sanders and Warren as it relates to climate and war and to climate and and International Affairs I you know I think they both have some very very strong climate policies. I think it was very good that Warren adopted so much of of INS lease platform warm sanders is talking about spending a lot more money that is significant but he's also talking about spending a lot more money internationally one of the things that we're hearing from a lot of different candidates Bates including Warren is that the US can lead by example and warned talks about economic patriotism as it relates to the green economy so basically spend a lot of money converting US manufacturing to you know from manufacturing the infrastructure of a fossil also fuel economy to a green economy so solar panels wind turbines and then sell those products to the world right. I don't think that's economic patriotism. I think economic imperialism realism I think the US doesn't lead by example the US has to lead based on historical responsible responsibility the US is the world's largest historical circle emitter it is embedded within the treaties that the US has signed the climate treaties the US has signed that the US owes a debt to the global double south to have the resources to develop their own economies so I don't have to just by made in the US solar panels they need to be able to to develop their own green green manufacturing and they do need resources from the US and other large historical committed to leapfrog over fossil fuels to get that economy at also to prepare for the impacts packs of climate change that are already locked in so I think Sandra's honestly is the only candidate that is really reckoning with that historical responsibilities talking about spending two hundred billion in dollars for climate financing and this is really the first time we've had that that type of approach another big difference that I think is worth really wrestling with has to do with what Sandra's talked about in terms of greening the military it is true that the that the US military is a major procure of good and it would make a big difference if it was procuring goods that were low-carbon but the fact is that war itself is an ecological disaster and most of the wars that the the United States fights are in areas with a whole lot of oil and that is not by coincidence so I think the idea that we battle climate change by painting painting the Military Green frankly a bit of an absurdity. I understand why people think that it is more politically palatable but I think we need to be honest about the fact that you know. We need to get a lot of the money that is currently being spent on arms on these disastrous wars disastrous from on every three level first and foremost humanitarian disasters but also ecological disasters. We need to move that money over to building a peaceful and just and zero carbon economy now make line. I want to thank you for being with us. People should go to part one of the discussion that Long Alison. I have with Naomi Klein on in her new book out today on fire the burning case for green new deal. Naomi Klein is the renown author also author of this changes everything capitalism versus the climate and the shock doctrine and no logo and more she's a correspondent at the intercept and the inaugural Gloria Steinem chair of media culture and feminist studies at Rutgers University to see part one of our discussion. Go to democracy now dot ORG. I'm Amy Goodman. Thanks so much..

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

Radio Free Nashville

02:36 min | 3 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

"Marvin university book club today were reading from Naomi Klein's this is everything this from the introduction a voice came over the intercom with the passengers of flight flight three nine three five scheduled to depart Washington DC for Charleston South Carolina finally collect their carry on luggage and get off the plane it went down the stairs and gathered on the hot tarmac and they saw something unusual the wheels of the US Airways jet had sunk into the black pavement as if it was wet cement the little wheels were lodge so deep in fact that the truck the game to tow the plane away couldn't pry it loose airline and help the without the added weight of the plane's thirty five passengers the aircraft will be light enough to pull it wasn't someone posted a picture why is my flight canceled is DC is so damn hot that our planes sank four inches into the pavement eventually a larger more powerful vehicle was brought in to tell the plane and this time it worked the plane finally took off three hours behind schedule a spokesperson for the airline blamed the incident on very unusual temperatures temperatures in the summer tenth twenty twelve were indeed unusually hot as they were the year before and the year before it's no mystery why this is been happening the profligate burning of fossil fuels the on the very thing that US Airways was bound and determined to do despite the inconvenience presented by a melting tarmac this irony in the fact that the burning of fossil fuels is so radically changing our climate that it's getting in the way of our capacity to burn fossil fuels did not stop the passengers of flight thirty nine thirty five from we embarking in continuing their journeys Norway's climate change mentioned in any of the major news coverage of the incident I'm in no position to judge these passengers all of us who live high consumer lifestyles wherever when they happen to reside are metaphorically passengers on flight thirty nine thirty five Acer the crisis that threatens our survival as a species our entire culture is continuing to do the very thing that caused the crisis only with an extra dose of elbow grease behind like the airline bringing in a truck with a more powerful engine a tow that plane global economy is upping the ante from conventional sources of fossil fuels even during here arm and more dangerous versions Bitterman from the Alberta tar sands oil from deep water drilling gas and hydraulic fracturing fracking coal from detonated mountains and so on while each supercharge natural disaster produces new irony laden snapshots of a climate increasingly inhospitable the very industries most responsible for its warming like a twenty thirteen historic floods in Calgary that forced the head offices of the oil companies mining the Alberta tar sands to go dark.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

08:38 min | 3 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"It would donate three hundred thousand to relief efforts ExxonMobil's two thousand eighteen quarterly profits six billion dollars three hundred thousand dollars is less than seven minutes of their two thousand eighteen prophets author and activist Naomi Klein re tweeted Patel's tweet adding tell Exxon to pay its climate debts starting right now. About Nagarajan response. I absolutely agree with that analysis from sales and from Naomi, I mean, Mozambique did not create this climate crisis. Our people have contributed almost nothing to the climate crisis. But this is the eye of the climate crisis that it affects those who did not do anything to create it. And it affects does the most. So the poorest and the most vulnerable people on the planet are going to be affected the most, and that's what's happening in Mozambique right now, and we really want to pull out those responsible. So this is about the rich countries. Amy way you're sitting at the moment the United States. This is about Europe, and Australia, and Japan and for yours yours. Societies have built up your societies using the fossil fuels. And now, we know this is what it's caused in the atmosphere. So we call out the rich countries, even the UK government has promised some some amount of money, but the UK go home in just a few days ago has approved a new coal mine in their territory soul. This is an absolute affront to you know, we we need to deal with the climate crisis. We need to stop dirty energy dirty and harmful energies everywhere. But this is about historical responsibilities. So that needs to happen in the northern countries. I to stop fossil fuels to stop dirty and harmful energies. And then as you say, we don't want this and our country's either. So our organization Zsa zombie. Untold is it again. Exploited gas in the very north of Mozambique right under Tanzania. And it's ExxonMobil that's involved. It's any from Italy that's involved, and it's an darker, which is another US corporation, and we have been working with a group of allies from all over the world because there is a huge loss for this gasfield in Muslim be. And we are going to fight because we don't want energy in our countries eat up. I'm in seventy percent of the people of Mozambique don't have access to electric, and obviously the situation is going to get much worse after this disaster. Because of how many power lines have been knocked off, and because of how many villages have disappeared. But this is not the way to get energy. We don't have any more space to keep emitting. These these greenhouse gas emissions and to have this horrible dirty energy, which is affecting people on the ground. We pushing for repayment of the climate debt, which means we didn't create the crisis. So those who did give us the finance to be able to actually deal with this on the ground. And you know, we want to we want to fight for people centered renewable energy for our people. That's the future that we want to see. And of course, this disaster has showed us that we need we need to be able to build up the resilience of our people we need to have, sir. Survival strategies for people because the ocean is coming into people's houses. I mean agriculture is going to start failing. We're seeing impacts intensifying all over the world, and how are the poorest and the most vulnerable people who don't have these strategies of survival. How are they actually going to live? So this is what we are fighting for repayment of the climate debt. Stop the dirty and harmful energies. And let's. Let's have an energy transformation towards people centered renewable energy that's what we're fighting for dip day. But I was wondering if you can end by talking about the significance of the climate school strike led by Greta Tinbergen, Sweden, who's just been nominated for a Nobel peace prize. The sixteen year old climate activists millions of young people walked out of schools across the world. And also what's happening in the United States with this new congress. The most diverse congress in US history with Alexandra Castro Cortes, the New York. Congress member pushing for the green new deal what this looks like from your vantage point in Mozambique, and right now in Malaysia where you're at a climate summit the same kind of tree that's historically the biggest greenhouse gas. And where President Trump has pulled the United States out of the UN. Climate summit and the Paris peace accord, well, not the summit they go to push fossil fuels, but the Paris climate accord. Absolutely wonderful question. Actually, we've been meeting with some of the the Malaysian activists to organize the strike in the city of Penang last week on Friday. And I think it's wonderful. What's happening across the world initiated from Greta Tandberg in Sweden who are team from friends of the ads were Witter and allies were winter in in the UN climate negotiations, lots December, I think it's absolutely wonderful. And she's what she's saying about system. Change is very very critical because that is what is going to take that level of transformation is what we need to be able to stop the climate cry. Isos, but also to serve the people who the current system never served those who don't have electrical and those who struggled to have food on the table. I mean, we're talking about a world of increasing inequality. So we as the Muslim because of the international we're really pushing for this transformational agenda, and I was really happy to see Greta actually talking about it. However, I don't think that the school strikers in some of the other countries are actually making those leaks. And and that's where I think we want to also a connection those of us from solid from the southern countries. We would love to talk to you. We would love to talk to the school. Strikers, we would love to talk to those in the parliament to the US who are who are pushing this green new deal to say, this is absolutely wonderful. What you're doing? Let's not forget about equity. Let's not forget about the salt. Let's not forget about historical responsibility. So I think I think the war. Happening is wonderful. We want to make sure that they realized we are also in the boat with them. And there is a respond. They have not used to stopping climate change. But actually doing it an equitable way. So I'm offering myself. I'm available anytime to speak to school strikers to speak with people in the US. Onerous for allies. We've just been talking about this at our climate Justice meetings. We really want to reach out we really need to strengthen the the narrative of equity and of historical responsibility within the within the climate within the green, you do you like that are wonderful opportunities. Remember, I wanna thank you very much as you talk about remembering the south day. But now gar with friends of the earth international climate Justice and energy coordinator, usually based in Maputo, Mozambique. Joining us now from a climate Justice conference in Penang, Malaysia, this is democracy. Now when we come back Lakota historian Nick ESTES on his new book. Our history is the future. Stay with us. Directions by Rio's, featuring nocco,.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW

TalkRadio 630 KHOW

01:35 min | 3 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW

"An incentive to do it right there. You don't need to have the government force you to do it. So. How really gets me though, is that she seems to have no sense of proportion. Somebody who was asked how much would it cost to turn our entire electrical grid and into using renewable resources instead of coal oil gas, or whatever, and they calculated it'll be about thirteen trillion dollars. That's a lot more than our current electrical grid is worth right now. It's only worth about a trillion dollars. I was thirteen times as much, but she doesn't want to just replace all actress ity, she replace all transportation, all all residential heating all industrial use of fossil fuels with renewables, and to do that that would do at least four times as much. We've only got a minute here trillion dollars. We've only got a minute here. Right. I gotta come from printing money. It doesn't work backup even farther back. We've only got a minute here. How how insane is this? From this is not pure, socialism and a planners paradise. I don't know what is is. Are there people in the environmental community who actually thinks this woman is sane? Yes. And I come back. I mean, the environmental community is essentially been taken over by socialist. And I come back to Naomi Klein who wrote a few years ago that global warming has.

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"naomi klein" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

05:17 min | 3 years ago

"naomi klein" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Smoker slash nonsmoker. Was that I didn't enjoy lying to her as soon as I could succeed in quitting again permanently. The wave function would collapse, and I would be one hundred percent the nonsmoker always represented myself to be but only if I didn't I come out in print as a smoker. Henry had been a twentysomething Gunderson when Tina Brown hired him at the New Yorker, he had a distinctive type chested manner of speaking a kind of hyper articulate mumble like pros acutely. Well, edited barely legible. I was off by his intelligence in his area dish in and it quickly come in to live in fear of disappointing him his passionate emphasis in therefore, you must write about them. He was the only speaker I knew who could get away with the stressed initial therefore in the imperative must allowed me to hope that I'd registered in his consciousness in some small way. And so I went to work on the essay, everyday combusting half a dozen low tar cigarettes in front of a box fan in my living room window and handed in the only thing I ever wrote for Henry that didn't need his editing. I don't remember how my mother got her hands on the essay or how she conveyed to me, her deep sense of betrayal. Whether by letter or in a phone call. But I do remember that she then didn't communicate with me for six weeks by a wide margin. The longest you ever went silent on me. It was exactly as I had feared. But when she got over it and began sending me letters again, I felt seen by her scene for what I was in a way. I'd never felt before it wasn't just that my real self had been concealed from her. It was as if there hadn't really been a self to see again, that's what essays four. So. Things in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight seven nineteen ninety seven the last thing in the world. I wanted to think about cigarettes. That was pretty quickly replaced by climate change as the last thing in the world. I want to think about and I bet that goes for a lot of you to pretty much the whole world. It's the last thing they want to think about nevertheless. A certain point. I got really angry about it. I got angry about one particular aspect of it. Which I'm gonna talk about actually several aspects. So three years ago, I was in a state of rage about climate change. The Republican party was continuing continuing to lie about the absence of the scientific consensus on climate. But I wasn't much less angry at the left. I'd read a new book by Naomi Klein, this changes everything in which she assured the reader that. Although time is tight we still have ten years to radically remake the global economy and prevent global temperatures from rising by more than two degrees celsius by the end of the century. Kline's optimism was touching. But it too was a kind of denial ISM even before the election of Donald Trump. There was no evidence to suggest that humanity is capable of slashing carbon emissions quickly and deeply enough to change everything. Even the European which had taken the early lead on climate and was fond of lecturing other regions on their irresponsibility needed. Only a recession in two thousand nine to shift its focus to economic growth. Really disliked the European Union when it comes to the environment. I will just say that it's like basically sterilized western Europe with the common agricultural policy. And also had this enormous mandate for biodiesel vehicles, which resulted directly contributed to the. Rampant deforestation of Indonesia. Little problem. More cutting down huge trees in order to grow palm oil. It was actually a great piece in the times magazine coming on at this weekend. And and they're so sanctimonious, why can't America be more responsible? We'll America's still has insects barring a world end of little rat barring a worldwide revolt against free market capitalism. In the next ten years. The scenario that Klein contended could still save us the most likely rise in temperature this century is on the order of six degrees celsius. We'll be lucky to avoid a two degree rise before the year twenty thirty. Here's a paragraph that I'm gonna read slowly because I think it's important and myself when I read this kind of thing, my my mind bounces off it. But I'm going to try to get this across. In a polity evermore starkly divided as ours is the truth about global warming was even less convenient to the left than to the right?.

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