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Naomi Campbell & Cuba Gooding Jr  - 09/26/18

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

26:29 min | 2 years ago

Naomi Campbell & Cuba Gooding Jr - 09/26/18

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast division of watch what happens. Live with me. Andy Cohen dresser you're watching what might be the final home game for the cardinals of the season. I'm praying. It's not, but it's not looking good right now, but you know what? You never give up hope with the cardinals. She just never do they. They have this way of pulling it out anyway. I don't want to jinx it and you don't want to hear me talk about this. You're here to hear me preview. Tonight's episode of watch what happens. Live with Andy Cohen. I'm Andy Cohen tonight. We have Cuba Gooding, junior and Naomi Campbell. How's that Naomi's inner dressing rooms. She's like walking around looking for me. She has a present for me which I'm very excited about and. You know, that's what's happening. I mean, I really have just glued you in on everything that's happening back here. I'll see in the clubhouse. He was in Jerry Maguire and if you're not attracted to her, well, you're just Aligarh. It's Evans live with Naomi Campbell and Cuba. Gooding junior or now. Andy Cohen live in the clubhouse and a Wednesday night with a woman whose beauty is profuse another David swimmer kept calling Jews. You've seen my first guest son, countless Haggas you've seen struck down many runways and you wanna see her in person. You should start on down to central park. This Saturday. She's co hosting and producing the global citizen festival, say low to the always stunning always smells great, always wonderful. My friend. Jason crime story was so mazing should've been a frequent crime. Now he's making his direct horrible debut in by Uqaab VR a film. He also co wrote and stars in no biggie, welcome back. You, but Gooding junior. And behind the bar, use the star of the new NBC medical drama, new Amsterdam, so I might need them to revive me, followed you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. As of last night we officially are the biggest hit on TV. Plot. Becomes through. Let's get started Cuba. You just mentioned to me right before the show started that you walk Naomi down the carpet at the canned film festival in two thousand and four. We've found the photo. Wow, that's great. Yeah. Remember how it happened because you at the last minute called said, you can walk me down the covered I go, I don't have. You're like, fine. One. Regarding real hot size of Dallas which was on tonight last year, Cameron showed off her Birkin bag. Raincoat Naomi. Have you ever seen one of these raincoat for your Birkin. The trend is spreading because carry us one two at I just this goes to our first poll question raincoats for your bag hot or not go to WWAFL dot TV right now Keller. Have you seen these? I have seen them. And are they? I mean, it's a thing if the thing I thought Asia, you did you have a raincoat for your person, right? You don't, but I have a rank cut for my case for. Okay, bye will then that's kind of you guys aren't into it. All right. That's cool. A next week, realize Dallas Deandra confronts Lianne about rich, but it's leeann d, Andras relationship that seems to be on the rocks. Take a look here. Or spine, do you feel like he's not going to stay married to you? Think you'll stay faithful? Come on as many nights I'm out at home. I think you're something you're not telling me. Because there's. Nothing's happening. There's been a lot of rumors about no his relationships with other women, and he bent was somebody's long as she's been with him. Me. Throne. Wow. N- your questions and. Coming in. But before we get to those, here's what three things I am obsessed with tonight. I, even though now only Campbell is a world famous supermodel. One of her favourite poses is actually just the seated position in front of her TV while the house Atlanta is on dining with the land ladies. Look, she thinks peachy with gone with the wind fabulous or do less. Okay. Take a look, and I just want you to go through this. What do you think of these patterned? Maxi dress and pink, scarred. What about horses metallic dress with shoulder pads? You can deal with that. Okay. What About Eve us graphic jacket with? Dramatics leave? No. Okay, sure. As prison photo, shoot on Sombo. Together for. Yeah. Marlins playful, lace bunny ears. A good day. Okay. On cynthia's low-cut, maroon dress and. Yeah. With hi flip. Like that. Not not crazy. Okay. What do you much. Too much at the split in the top and about. Okay. What to raise long platinum, blond wig and pale pink separates. Where's he just looks like the meeting. Really. Before the titan which is. Okay. These black dress with elaborate. Crystal design nice became. All right. Thank you very much. ULA Gooding junior may of once taken his pants off on this very show. But when it comes to some of the other wild things, he's done Willie be equally as revealing. Here's what we're gonna find out with Gooding or goodness. No, I'm going to go through some scenarios in which you might have found yourself. You just tell me if you've done that thing or not. Okay. Have you ever accepted a movie role? So Lee because you wanted to date your co star now. Okay. Have you said where you eat and. Yes, that is true about walking. I understand. Have you ever said no. When fans said to you, are you Cuba. Gooding. Junior, no. No. Okay. Said, when someone asked me if I was tearing tat. You. They were so insistent about it anyway. Ever had an afternoon delight in your trailer. Have you ever slid into another celebrities DM's on Instagram? What does that mean. I guess you haven't have you ever dmt another direct, Matt. Oh, I didn't know at that. Now, have you ever been attracted to a cartoon character Cuba. Gooding JR in. Yes, yes. Have you ever Jessica rabbit. Have you ever tried while watching a kids movie. From the fifteenth time, maybe have you ever fallen asleep during a table read or rehearsal? No. Now thank you very much. Only grazed over five hundred numbers old. Is it? Oh. Graced over one thousand magazine covers. Like a thousand anyway. You know what? It's money when I read that I was thinking, nineteen Ninety-four number. Forget it. I did my book. Yes. Okay. But I can't. Does only know how much magazine costs. Here's what we're about to find out. You'll me I'm going to ask you a few questions that people who aren't fashion icons might know the answers to your regular person hat and give it a go, okay, Naomi. What is the cost of one New York City? Subway. Right. To seventy five. Not that came close without going over, look at the monitor behind you and tell me what this is. Thing you put in the dryer. They'll be careful what when does the shopping extravaganza called black Friday occur in the US after thanksgiving. Naomi, what is the average price for drugstore lipstick in the United States. It's six fifty nine. Not bad. Okay, very. Eric average cost for a one way ticket in coats from LAX JFK. Four hundred dollars. It's three forty, six. Got to get her assistance there. Now you only j.j workday wants to know what did you think about Nikki and Cardi's altercation fashion week where you were at that party? Right? I compared it, but when I comes down. I love. Towed it to carrying Rockville to her face anything. But I went home on the couch watching TV. What do you and Kate we're home watching? Yes. But. I was disappointed. I don't wanna see. Women have kind of fide women fight period, so not not that you know, it's all music. It's, you know, there's no division of music music for everybody. There's no discrimination. So I felt right is pointed. Cuba. Favorite memory of working with Burt Reynolds on endgame. Brenda h, you know, every day he was there. He only came. We shot that show for about seven weeks in they had him for four days a while the every every day he came on the set, and I've had the opportunity to work with these icon ick actors before, and they they always tell pass stories of working with other big often. Probably one of his stories he was just great. Yeah, Christina. Martin wants to know Cuba how often in day to day life do are asked to use the phrase, show me the money. Everybody people coming up to you and said, doesn't ring a bell down. They only Peter, the mom Peter, the media wants to know your views on KENDALL Jenner being the highest paid model. While saying she cherry picks jobs and could never do thirty shows in a season crashed. I'm really excited about the global citizen festival. Where in this. On the weekend able super cool and to get an it's, is it. All day long believe so hosting in New York and co host an producing. That's. Simply for New York, eight seventy. What your question. Hi, Andy, I Cuba you're hiding. Hello of you. Thank you. I just had to let you know since I was five the door ju I saw you on the cover of a jet magazine. It's been on ever since. Thank you so much. Okay, so this girl has a question for you. I need your top three dating tips. Top-three dating tips. Oh me. Oh, I don't know if I'm the right person to earth. Thing. Pick up now. Pick up the phone? Oh, my God. I'm so I don't really note. It's like today because I've never been a dating person. I've always been someone that's been in relationships. Okay. So what do you do? You go for pizza that one of them. Broken. Pizza a few days ago. Is that true? Yeah. Grocery shopping. Today's go when cook yesterday. Brianna for Nebraska. Hey, brianna. What your question for Cuba. Gooding. Junior. She left. Okay. Thanks for calling. Bre, hey, what's your question? My question is for tuba. Best coast sort and the worst co star that he's worked with all who's the best. Oh, the best. Who's your favorite? Maybe Jack. Nicholson? Because he while Jack Jack? Yeah. You know, I maybe I whispered to them. It's just say, because he used the controversy. Like that. Could you say that worse? Yes, you know, what was it worst actor. Who was not Benita town. You doing it or not. She just said, I was gonna say, I mean. Doc one grip on what you did. He was just a little cranky shot in Bucharest. Wow, I do a dorm, but he was miserable. It's game time. Everybody. Enough to curl your hair. So I, I hope Cuba's been paying attention because if not, I may lose some of my here with better pluck. Next time, Cuban gonna ask you some Naomi Campbell, trivia for every wrong answer Naomi's going to take these tweezers and pluck out one of my eyebrow hairs. Okay. Cuba there are two. What named for Naomi in Holland roses or windmills. Roses, you're correct. In what city was Naomi born London or Birmingham. Yes. They only appeared in which Marley music video, this love or no woman. No cry. No woman, no cry. Is this love. Okay, which which real housewife made a cameo on Naomi show star knee leaks, Porsche Williams. Meaning. Nineteen eighty eight. Naomi became the first black woman ever to appear on the cover of which magazine British vogue or French Moke. British French vote. True. Naomi sang backup vocals on vanilla ISIS song. Cool. As is. Trick. Question. How was it directing yourself? Did you enjoy that? I did. I did. I, I'd I'd rather directed act now the first day filming though I I was in with a young actress like her first major role, and I was so nervous for her that was finished longer cut. We gotta go again, I wasn't in character. I was in that was more concerned, watching performance in Houston character. You'll help them more so than I Nord it. And then when I said cut, I watch playback. So it took me a minute. It's Tober fifth right price over. Have you spoken to OJ Simpson since he got out? No, no, no, no. The only thing I heard was he he gave an interview. He was in jail and said, cubes hit a big enough to play me. We got a question. VR walkabout on Naomi. What do you think of Michael Kors buying for Sachi. It's great for business. It's good for the industry. And yeah, I'm into it. Did you see the virtues story of, did you have? To be honest, I couldn't. I couldn't watch as I've made a plan. I was never been painful, of course. Yeah. What's happening would you David? Blaine? Naomi. David. Blaine has been my friend or like a brother to me for like twenty four, five years. So we're on the same boat. So there you go. All right. It's time for my boss goes to President Trump who had a glass half full moment during today's press conference. When he did neither leaders and diplomats laughed at him. Yesterday's address to the US. Say that they were instead laughing with him and that they were just having fun. Because you know those diplomats are just famous for their infrastructures sense of humor too much fun. You crazy kids. Shackled goes to come out. She okay. This is kind of great. She's slid into Connie west Instagram comments and told him to do the gray sweatpants challenge for those who don't remember, this is the viral 2016 hashtag that highlighted men going commando underneath their athletes. Okay. Look, I love a visible male outline as much as anybody, but do we think this exact moment is the time to encourage guys to expose themselves like maybe that shouldn't happen this year anyway, I wanna. I want to. Producer Colo's citizens. Twenty nine and in South Africa on December second wear and seven back job erg and Cuba. Gooding junior's movie. Direct to'real debut. He also stars in the film and co wrote the script. It's out Tober. Fifth, you can see him in Chicago reprising his role as Billy Flynn on Broadway October's. The beans show is new Amsterdam, Tuesdays. He's not a doctor, but he plays one on TV. Also could play of art center because he's agreed. He looked. Right. No, this guy Cuba, Frank. She wants to know what exactly went down that Golden Globe party. That ended with a KFC chicken bucket on your head. Morlin damn wins. Went down. We were, you know, it was funny thing is, is wasn't real chicken in those buckets. It was sponsored by Campsie that was break dancing and I, I jumped up and through the bucket overhead and hit oppose. He took a picture and he tweeted today. Somebody hit a post sleep. Ashley, why texted Naomi Gerber ever ask you for constructive criticism on her modeling, she calls you onto it as it. She's adorable, yeah, paddock, yeah, she's, I sat sat with her and her mother at as line. My late peppers who was no longer here. We sat on the kitchen table and we just went through all the search should do. It shouldn't do at the moment because of the baby. She is everything. She's really very proud of her. Okay. Let's go back to the phones. Maureen from? No, it's light Lakisha from Chicago. Hey, Lakisha. What's your question. Hey, Cuba Haney me what this much very discussion is for your name. Only rented vice who she gets to someone who is building a personal brand so they can distinguish this from other his building a personal brand. What is the brands. Maybe a TV personality journalist. Oh, I think everything. I mean, I think it's hard in the f. is hard in that sector to define yourself. I mean, you have to be like an anti here. The question more for Andy. I mean, you have to have something that's the extra special genetic, what that gives you that edge and think you have to be very ambitious competitive. You have to have perseverance. You can't take anything seriously because you have to be sensitive and otherwise that doesn't help in any business. You just have to push hard. I mean, it's it's never easy. Nothing's easy to even my business is not easy. That's great advice. I should've asked you purport who made that dress vanden next beautiful. He came to my house to put it on me tonight in the rain. Let's go to Maureen for what oughta done the same? Yes. Maureen. Maureen, what's your question. Cuba. Gooding junior, get that nickname of the OJ show the what was the nickname, but naked. You know, I started the business. My first one was boys in the head, and I had a sex scene. Then I went on to do murderer crows in a series of other movies where I was always doing sex scenes and anybody knows who does fixing it has nothing to do with sex. And as you know, even boys in the head we had the coast or the first sex scene was just imagining where I told my father I had sex first time they got a stripper from a strip club to be the actress. And yet when it was time to film, she was like, you have to be onset is you have to be on the set as but they pay you to say about, but it's not. It's weird, it's when you're filming it's an exposing people who look board who are there to do their job on. It makes people uncomfortable worse. So I got the nickname because I come to set naked sometime. I'm like, you know, there's no laughing on the set. Let's go to Myra from Georgia. Meyrowitz your question I end e how great my question is we're Niamey. Where for lounge wear around the house on love that question too. I wear. Tank-tops could whatever I like comfy. Does you do? Yeah, I do. I don't like being constricting. Close. Get harmed, change. Anything comfortable? Okay. Let's go to one from Florida. Hey, one. What your question. Mark is where Cuba. Gooding. June. Okay. I would like to have you ever to any of his co stars? No, never. Why is that? Keep coming up. I don't know. I don't know why think. Well, one I was buried for a long time, but even as a person who can engage in something like that now I when you're acting okay, and you're in a scene, you want to find the truth to the moment. And the last thing you need is the baggage of your Bryce in a life affecting that moment. So you know. There you go. Naomi. Your, did you have formal acting training. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah, you did. Yeah. Might see to now is season Bassim you always Oeser baton. Yeah, I know Hershey's, whatever, whatever. You know, she was on one life to live did you years, but she was goes six? Yeah, run in the same scene, but yeah. You always, you always impress me every time. I see you acting in anything. I'm like, wow, I found that really hard on the pool table in my first day on. I was just at either. Happening on the pool table. Oh my God. He's coming up on like I was just like. Understand brutal and even after I two monthly, I still get shy. Go on the set and I'm not wearing very much. Right. You know, still, right. Kind of keep it only shy. I am shy. There is a shy site to us. You know that Germany? Yes, I do. I want to q. Thanks for listening to the podcast. Everybody hope you enjoyed the show. Remember new episodes. Go live Monday through Friday at four PM eastern time. Make sure you're subscribed have a great rest of your night.

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WWHL @ Home: Naomi Campbell

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

22:00 min | 3 months ago

WWHL @ Home: Naomi Campbell

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast addition of Watch. What happens live with me Andy Cohen. She's a dazzling lady who's also brilliantly shady. It's watch what happens live at home with Naomi Campbell now. Welcome to watch what happens live at home from the Hamptons. I'm your host Andy Cohen joined by supermodel. Who always makes me feel under dressed. But especially now that I've spent four months hosting this show in my boxers, checkout her show no filter with Naomi on Youtube, it's the one and only only Campbell. Good to see you skirts. You see to Sam, the nine seven I was worried about. I Know Naomi, I have to say you were one of the first people who reached out to me when I said, I had cove and you were so sweet. You were texting me offering the your driver to bring shopping. Things to help each other. Very, I mean I. Know You were very sweet. That meant a lot to me. Well, Naomi as a jet setting supermodel, you have traveled to zip codes around the world, but tonight I, only ask that you join me on venture to nine, oh two one. Oh, since you're such a big real housewives of Beverly Hills, Fan? It's time to share some of your thoughts on the season with candidly Campbell. You. Okay, Naomi what was your reaction to the bombshell revelations from Brandy. About Denise? Who Do you believe? In this instance. Bank Randy was telling the truth I mean. She was trying to say in a gossipy way. The way. She was speaking about it because you had no intentions to go inside Kyle's house. So it came across. Just. As, maybe she's been surprised by someone. She thought she was she didn't happen to a lot of us. I mean. That's what I mean. Whatever. Makes Unhappy. Pressler but. She says one thing, and then she acts a novel way with case I could you know with Erica? said she apologized? Profusely many times, but then denise get bringing it up and actually to that. He said it's not that big deal, right? Well, denise would argue that it was the women who were bringing it up but Yeah. Overall opinions on newbies, Carcelle, and Sutton. Every. She's a single mother she's doing resting. And she's honest. Yeah, you know and I like during the mix and I'm not starting to which Beverly Hills housewife get your vote for best dress so far this season, it's all I ask of the me. It is always Erica. But I gotTA. Say this. Story. Is playing out the stops even out on the outfit that I, one phone. Really. The next I. got a preview of. Coming so I told her in and out, but I. Would you be interested in dining? Endure reits room at Buca Tobacco. Can. We can was six linking. Keeps this social distance maybe, right. Okay. All right. Well, thank you very much. I me, I always enjoy your takes on the house. Wise. Now, you are one of the most famous people on the planet and I love hearing your stories, you've told me over the years. So many great stories about Michael Jackson and Princess Diana and this one and that one I want to see what other stars have come into your orbit. It's time to play. Have you met Okay tell me if you've met the following people and if so just share what they were like. Hadn't you met. Queen, Elizabeth. Well. Not Officially. No. But she was like this Baath remain at Princess. Eugene's wedding Oh. Okay. Have you met? Met Blue. Ivy Carter. Yes I have. She's very bad enough because she's really smart mature. Did you, meet. Andy, warhol. Did I go up and shake his hand. No, did I sit there like a seventeen year old just like China corner staring at him. Yes. New on the scene in New York. Yes, right. Have you. Yourself basket and Keith. Oh my God have you met a pope? No. That is that is the blonde person on my list when everyone says. That WANNA meet. That's the pope pope right now. I think he's Such a humble. Has, you met the Dalai Lama. Yes, I, have I've known him for years. Good, Guy. Very Nice Guy I met him in the ninety S. Great, he's got great charm. Great. Go GEICO. Full of amazing lights. Did you ever meet Lucille? Ball? No I never did have you ever met an astronaut. Stinks. Yeah. Yes. I've met female. A female. Astronaut. Oh Sally ride maybe did you meet Elizabeth? Taylor? I did and I got to sit with her a few times how `Bout Adele and is was. Is were. lineups just incredible. Yes. I absolutely love down we. Lover. How about did you ever meet Imelda Marcos? No, I. Do the documentary on her? Yes. Okay. I haven't seen it I. Really WanNa see it husband is not been is still like instate kind of. Is that true? Eight not weeping given official. You Got Watch this document resident given the official. is still kind of lying in state. That's been a while. Last have you met Megan Markle? A have not met Megan markle. All right. We you know you knew Diana a little bit. What do you think her reaction to? Harry leaving the royals would be. The type of person that whatever. was good for her kids and make them feel good about what they, I mean. She would support our kids that you know what else is at the miser Martha shooting. Okay, we have a lot of your questions for you cast parade per rave row wants to know what's your reaction to Anna wintour statement of Vogue, not finding enough ways to elevate and give space to black creators. Were you happy to hear that? Think things about to change. Don't you? I mean, it seems. At. This thing's about to change I mean. You know. Everyone was used to think that. You'd like to be in the token person. Black person in the room is absolutely the opposite. I never did and. It's a needs to change from the boardroom to the seat. It needs to go from that from the rival, the top through because. It's You know. I've been saying this for years, and so I'm truly grateful and happy find. This is happening the way I had to come out people to lose their lives. It's very sad and. My condolences to each one of those victims of parents of those people that are gone. But this this had to happen this change. Your. Naomi. No L. K. wants to know your favorite memory of working with Madonna on her sex book. My favorite memory The. Whole dance, we stay quiet one night, the photographer, this shop sex book Steven. Meisel. So I was always very quiet when electrons Stephen and I was a more quiet on that shoot because. I didn't know who wanted me there and how I got there, but I was. Really quiet because I told my boyfriend I was doing catching look. At the was not having it, who was your boyfriend at the time? He was an actor. I'm trying to think who it was. At the time when I book, it was robbing and I told you, it was going to do catalog. Now, he had found out, he had to have found out that. You did it where you still together when the sex booklet. Came I remember hiding the book hiding hiding it, it was found. I mean he had to have found out. Yes. It may be someone told him I. Don't remember but. One thing here we get one thing seeing the pictures, I, mean I can't one. I mean, my grandmother wasn't thrilled either I have to assume Deniro found the book. I mean. Speaking of which. Speaking of which. Clare L. said. She wanted me to ask you. Liam. Payne was on watch what happens live and I asked him if he ever dated you and he pled the fifth and she liam. About. And he pled the fifth. What was your reaction to that? All right now I only you could put on a trash bag and make it look stunning. But I'm wondering if there are any past looks, you'd rather see in a trash bag. It's time for our Classic Watch. What happens? Verse Saatchi or Hibachi I'm going to show you some your past outfits. Tell us which one you would throw back on like a ver. Sachi. Gown in which you would rather throw on a botchy grill. Okay. I. Hear, is a one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, one, Grammy Awards look complete with Boa. Would you wear it again as in my red have? Making it when it before. What I wear them again. Yeah. Yes. I would be. Okay without the boat here you are at a party for Liza Minnelli in. Nineteen ninety-five. Would you wear that again? I have that many times. It's an as the rope. Obscene regularity again, and it comes back and that yields all with the road. Okay here you are again looking like you're dripping in diamonds at the first annual VH1 fashion and music awards. Verse such Satchi or Botchy. It's versus She would wear it. Okay. Very good. How about this That's you in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, six. You were at attribute to style benefit to benefit inner city arts education. Mattress. Okay. Very good. How about this black and white stripe. Guess. You gotTA still have that. That's for Saatchi. Okay. How about this? Impressively beaded dress at an amfar benefit gal at Ken in two, thousand one. Probably not. Okay. How about this corset-dress? Men of the awards in two, thousand and. Two. Of. Course says, okay, too old. How about? This look I. If you show of that anymore, I, think became what about ditties? Royal Birthday Ball in two, thousand and four which. Is. Today I. Know that she would wear it again. Okay. Okay. Without the for here, she's a lady in Leopard. Now, you are raising funds for the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund in two, thousand and five. On where that, again, you would. All right. Very good thing. I, think that dress. was auctioned and. By the way, we should note you're wearing vintage ally address from Ninety two now this. Fits you like a glove, I will say and speaking of things that have been put up for auction. Jen wants to know how much you paid for Elizabeth, Taylor's CAFTANS. You won them at an auction and apparently you've been wearing them during quarantine. I I. I went to Christie's like everybody else pity for them in her. Tena On. Ocean time. And how much I know I. It just I love that woman so much. something. Yeah. Naomi Alamo. Mode nine, one, four, seven, two, seven, eight wants to know what's your been your favorite interview so far that you've done on no filter with Naomi. They boop in really fun begins so different. Of course, talking with Mike Girls and just everyone. And Path, and Lee Daniels in India, more and Opel Mattie and Al Shop to everyone has had such different brings Nicole. Richie. Graham not it's just every. It's just been fun because it's not really. The people that you know is just due to sit in matches, not a compensation, and then then a little camera look. Yeah. You Bet while you've been killing it congratulations by. You know we just did this pride radio stunt on Radio Andy, and we had all these people come and DJ and and the number one song. The song that recurred the most was freedom ninety. Yeah, Jim Favorite memory of of making that video. Yeah. Yeah. The story you WANNA. Hear it. Yeah. Okay. So the night before. The. Ninety four. was telling mood. Let's show and it was the last of the best shows. It was the funding of old finales, five shows in one day. The shows backed-up put a long story short, we're in the in sacks where in a circus in Paris model of laughter ready. They had enough that show ends at like two, three, three, o'clock, three, thirty, the there was no trains to London. Then that video freedom to shut in London David Venture. The first plane is at six am. I've got to be on it because I'm the first one up to. Addi- magin. Get that George was Act George Michael was at the last show to he didn't make it back. I've got that. The no way he didn't come back. East, left in probably I. Don't know but I got To go to work and I was sick state. Wow, that's. Fun, that's what you remember when you see that video a little bit. The preempts. Yes. Of course, the make it, right? Wow. Well, last year, you shared your preflight routine which included wiping down every part of the seat. It's proving that you're not only a how do the fashion curve that you're ahead of the hygiene one as well. We're GONNA play. Do you wipe it down I'm going to present you with different objects. Tell us. If you've given each one swap Naomi G, WIPE DOWN DOORKNOBS AND TV remotes in hotel rooms accident. Have you wipe down someone else's phone before putting your number? I'm not touching anyone else for have. You ever wiped down. Normally dealt had have you ever wiped down the bathroom in the home of a man you're seeing? Recently. Do. You write down all of your groceries when you bring them home without mean, that assumes you go to the gross. Do you go to the grocery store? Now I order in I. This is. In his priority list to order. I I wasn't into before because I like to pick Meiomi stuff I like those two. No More Time Momo Day, but I'm. I've been using the INSTA- car. Now known how to do it now, and when the gross does a homeless thing when it comes to the when it comes home, it's a wipe down the bag. Then Austin. Vegetables Washington Apple CIDER. Your your those white down disinfect. Nothing's coming through the door. Your whole foods video for Youtube. WAS ICONIC by the way was really great. I do to go to. Actually missing walk I, want to go to. Do. Do, you wipe your makeup off before going to bed oh. Yes, you do. I did. I mean. To be honest. I don't like where makeup in the heat. So. After I'm taking. And by the way, did you do your makeup yourself today? been doing my makeup looks amazing. Wow, outta. Cut McGrath. Wonderful, useful Panit's. Society playtime. Amazing. Will you're like playtime? Now you owe me when you posed has matt suit at the airport in. March, you look so incredible that you officially made hygiene high fashion. So for tonight's moment of Oslo, I would love for you to give the viewers three of your top tips for travelling. Clean. You have to have a seat cover. So it could comedy if you combine seek cover. and. I used to before the the dogs. P P pats a big one large one. That's what I used to on the fourth or you combine those blankets in the airport. You just put that in its burn away. Wash we use it. Remorse use it The gloves, plastic gloves I. Always, try and. I. Think. Not, I think it's very important as well as the mosque. To whack, the is. A really, yeah. Wow. Because I've read it. So many times that it keeps me say can infiltrate through the is so I feel flights, you must goebbels. Goggles on the flight. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Come around here. I feel that you should. Wear, glasses put him over the glass. Okay. All right, Naomi. I want to thank you for being here. Wow. All right. We will see you tomorrow night. Everybody wants our after show on twitter live right now. Thank you. Naomi. Thank you out. Hey everybody. It's the after show with me. Campbell. You can see no filter with Naomi on. Youtube. Naomi considering, you are such a known Germaphobe Jessica and texted and said, you know where you freaking out in the fall in the subway when you were shooting those pictures for Valentino. Absolutely, I was freaking out, but just to know there is a private subway station in New York that they use only for photographs of movies. No, who who downtown really got. No one has no one in the station. US But absolutely, and yes, I read many people. Right? Everything was came down. But this was plead pre pre covered, right I. Love those pictures. Nikki see wants to know if it's true. You wants through that. George. Michael's car. nope. It was George. Michael's cotton I think it was. I was a coach, Love Fan, and so we would go down. You know the. BBC. When Culture Club and drag drag. Singing you know we would go down there and top of the pop. The swap shop on tax. Day But. I. Definitely think through eggs. Durant. All right I wanNA. 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Why George Floyd's Death Is an America Problem, Matt Lauer Returning to TV? - Daily Pop 05/29/20

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21:00 min | 5 months ago

Why George Floyd's Death Is an America Problem, Matt Lauer Returning to TV? - Daily Pop 05/29/20

"America's outraged the death of George. Floyd has affected everyone in Halle Berry expressed. What so many are feeling. Bhai posting this powerful magazine cover which suggests nothing has changed in over fifty years. Were off today. So Nina is joining us George died after being pinned down by a police officer who had his knee on Georgia's neck George repeatedly said he couldn't breathe. There's just so much to unpack with. story But I wanted to ask you guys what is affected you the most. It's hard to say because I feel like that for me. Depends on the day You know police. Brutality is not anything that is new to me or the strange relationship that I feel like a lot of black people have with law enforcement. I think that goes back for many many years. I think now it's really starting to affect people because their social media and there's video because I think for so many years there were people who wanted to deny that anything was even happening And so I feel like the fact that this is documented so much more frequently now is giving people more an inside. Look as to what people have been saying for many many decades For be personally. I feel like what I've really been thinking about lately is ally ship because it's really hard when you feel like you're suffering and there are people who when you're posting pictures of parties or people who when they want to work with you are happy to jump into your comments are happy to post you on their into the story But when you are seeing yourself and so many people like you who are going through pain who are silent I don't always think that people who are silent. Don't care but that's how it comes across and I think now more than any time is a time to show your ally ship to the people that you love. Who in your life to the people that help entertain you to the people who you interact with and even if you don't have anybody in your life who is black now is the time to stand up because if it's a black problem is an American problem absolutely I have seen? This is globally attention. This in particular is getting right now. All my friends all my colleagues back at Home Ministry and also over the world. I'm seeing it everywhere for me. Personally I'll never feel this time but I want to know and how I could help. And what's the best thing? I can do to help you know. I think that that is a question you know. It's hard because I feel like I don't necessarily speak for the black community And it's always hard because I feel like when something happens with the white person we don't expect them to speak for everybody. Mike I feel like somebody somebody white could commit a crime and I don't feel like why people think well they ruined it for all of us you know. I think it's like it's this weird. It's this weird ownership though that you have to take on as a black person because so many people feel like you speak for an entire community and sometimes that is just because there are. There are people who you interact with more. That are just like you. So you don't have to feel that way But you know for for me personally. I just feel like even asking. The question is important because I understand having the words like I have not completely felt like I knew how to articulate this issue and so even posting on social media. I haven't really known one hundred percent what to say because I'm filled with rage. I'm filled with sadness. I'm filled with anger. So it's hard for me to understand what to say so I can understand why it will be difficult for someone to say. I don't want to post anything. I don't WANNA say anything. I don't know what to do but saying just I don't know what to do is important because you know when we have the me too movement start. People were happy to say that they were there. Were so many men who said look. I don't know how to help but I'm here but I feel like when it's black people folks don't want to say anything you know when we when we did Golden Globes two years ago everybody wore black because of me to everybody wore black because me to move me. That's how powerful it hit our industry but these black men and women are continuously being killed. And I don't see a for Hollywood movement and I don't see these full movements for these people. If that man had put a dog on that street and put his his knee on a dog everybody would be talking about it and enraged wouldn't be party lines at wouldn't be will. If did he resist. It wouldn't be because it was a dangerous type of dog it would be. It would be like this man would be in jail right. So it's infuriating to me as a black person to have to prove my worth to be humanized. It's infuriating. Yeah in a in. It's not just infuriating for Nina. Like you know. I've been thinking about this so much and I'm not black but I'm enraged and I am up at night and I'm crying with you and I am listening to my friends. Who ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR? And who just feel like. They can't go outside or they can't take a run or they can't just walk down the street And and it's so disheartening. And I think that now more than ever what we what we needed to be doing all along as having this dialogue and I think that people need to look at their lives in see. Are you actually opening up your lives and having relationships with people outside your own ethnicity because to say that you want inclusivity to say that you WANNA have integration? I mean that requires you to actively seek that to actively put that into practice. You know we don't want more situations where there's Amy Cooper's calling the cops on innocent bystanders. Like like what you said. This is not a black problem. This is a human problem. We need to be actively fighting racism because the new racism quite frankly is denying that there is racism in this system. It starts with the with the tone-deaf comments because I think is a misconception. That racism means you have to be in a White Cape and Hood and say the word. And that's what racism is there a systemic racism? You know what I mean there are there are there. Are these little idiosyncrasies of microaggressions. That happen that we witness and you Aaron like as a woman you can be in a space right and a man could be making me uncomfortable and as a woman. I don't need to say anything to you just completely understand. There's a look we give each other as a woman. There's when the guy walks away we say oh my gosh girl. Like he was aggressive or that was weird. I didn't have to say anything to you to understand that this was going on like sometimes it's hard to say look. This is something I experienced. Even though there were no aggressive words what he didn't say how it spoke volumes and so when black people try to do that same thing with black people say hey. These microaggressions are happening. Hey this tone. Deaf comment made me uncomfortable. Hey you know just being passionate doesn't mean I'm aggressive and people say oh that's not racist up that's not that it's those types of conversations that are understood with gender right but not necessarily always understood with race and it's easily dismissed and I think not always leads to police brutality but I think those gaps and miscommunication those gaps not understanding of their people. Lead to this overall. Fear that trickle down until you get to the Real Rodney greedy. It means when you see someone who doesn't look like you industry in your member of law enforcement and you don't live in that community. How will you react to that? And this is a big question right now and I don't think we have the answer But do you think that there will be change because I think that there are people even within law enforcement who are recognizing that this is not right. This is wrong and that changes need to be happening and that we need to hold each other accountable and I think if we continue to do that there can be progress air and I wanna be. I WANNA be helpful but you know I grew up in a household where we just like. I tweeted this the other day and said I grew up in a household where we didn't call my one. We didn't call the police to help us like we just dealt with our problems in our neighborhood and deal with it on our own because for us for me that has never been a source of comfort. Because of the way that I was I was raised. I was raised by a black man who felt like. I don't know how I'm going to be treated. I'm not trying to die in front of my daughters so we don't deal with this on our own so for me to say like. Is it going to be better? Maybe but you know I'm forty years old and I am. Seeing a lot of things happened twenty years ago. My parents were in the streets protesting exhausting. That is like my parents have been protesting. My aunt was brutalized and beat up when she was pregnant. And I'm dealing with the same thing and people don't think that this is generational and the stuff doesn't affect you know so. It's hard to be optimistic. I want to be but now I'm not. This is an incredibly important story and everyone needs to keep talking about it and thank you so much. We'll be right back youtube star Michael Stouffer and her husband have revealed that they have re homed. They're adopted autistic son. After having him for two and a half years they opened up on her youtube channel that her son Huxley was a lot more special needs than they were aware of. They're getting a lot of backlash for this decision. Did they do the right or wrong thing here? Initially off the top all I care about is the best law the Hawksley and that's initially what I think is this. Poor child needs as much care as he can get. And whatever scenario he's in and if that means going to another family I'm happy without result but there's a lot more unpack from this to me. It feels like she utilized situation because their social media following doubled almost tripled and they documented the journey by our experiences. Our trip to China are all of the different experiences. It felt like it was used to kind of bring people in but now it seems like this real thing happened. It's just like any social media thing like instagram versus real life. And now it's like. Yeah it's a kid. He has special needs. He needs assistance. I don't understand why they wouldn't be able with with the other children that they have to provide that lifestyle for this child that they committed to. They adopted him. This is your baby. I feel like you can't just have a child per couple years and then return the child like that's not how it works. Child grows to know you become familiar with you. And then you're going to take him away from what he's like you'll just get to take the baby back without like this is not exactly is essentially profiting off their lots. They are documented in laws on YouTube. Which is how they making an income at the moment. Be Follow as off. That and this was something that is started to do. It still comes back to me. I don't care about any of that. If they cannot provide the adequate adequate care for this boy Hawksley. Who's now four years of age? I would rather suddenly. He's out of their life. I if they cannot. What do you agree with his life? I want him out of there agree with you. If this is the intent. Then maybe he should be with somebody else because this is questionable. Naive UNQUESTIONABLE PARENTI. You guys I feel like morally this. This is completely questionable not to mention the fact that this child of another nationality. So this isn't just like you can bring a child from China and just be like okay white family now. This is who you are like. You still have to make sure that you are completely invested in making sure. He knows who he is named the Baby Huxley. Like are you just completely trying to wipe this all identity away? In addition to everything else like less clear. Yes well it sounds like Huxley is in a better home. His new mother has worked with children with special needs before and is able to just Provide a much better life in better situation for him to say families that have children that have special needs. They are the definition of loved. The amount of time. Love Care and attention that goes into these beautiful souls and family. Yes that default lobster may really aren't moving onto another serious story. Could Matt Lauer ever return to? Tv source tells news that he's a journalist at his core and he really misses work. He believes he'd still be employed right. Now if it weren't for Ronan Farrow's book catching kill. And just week Matt wrote an OP. Ed Denying the rape allegation that was made in that book. That was the anchor of today. Which is part of the NBC Universal Family? And I just got to ask whether guilty or innocent. Can anyone move on after an accusation like that? Eric this is an extremely hob but is very simple for me. My sisters my mom my girlfriend any female in my life. I want them to feel one hundred percent safe any workplace. I go to top priority for me so if you right now regardless of the results of that I would just straightaways nine. Are you going to work with this person Yeah I mean kit. Canny come back. Sure I mean let's be honest. He's he's a white powerful man in media not as powerful as it used to be but we have seen people in this industry who people have said. They can't come back in. They have come back if they have given a certain type of platitude but I do feel like Instead of having come back let's talk about the women who would have been able to rise to the occasion. Had He not been there and allegedly done these things so it's like give these opportunities to these these women who are in the ranks who are up and coming who are trying hard working in their prime like let's give them that. Let's give them That attention if he wants to be in journalism started all Matt Start from the ground up. Everybody else go get. Your twitter account started blocked. You're on your own you want. You want to be a journalist. Fact checks and stuff from your house but as far as these other jobs they are taking. Are you guys coming up fashion legend? Naomi Campbell joins US and she's revealing her secret tip to look so darn good. Yeah won't WanNa Miss It. It's after the break back to Daly Up. Yesterday Morgan hung out with the one and only Naomi Campbell and it was epic. You guys. I am dying right now. Joining us is original supermodel actress and of course Queen Naomi Campbell. Okay before we go any further. I have to tell you something I think you and I are speaking today because I spoke this into exist you and I have the same birthday. You're on Friday. May Twenty second at cheap. You related first thing happy. Belated birthday to you as well. So you had a big birthday. You turned fifty which all of us have a hard time believing. This is a huge milestone for you. Obviously how did you celebrate? During this time it was Surreal Day. of surreal and Serene Day with Social distancing with some friends very few nights four of us. I'm also a happy to get to fifty. What has been your biggest challenge during this quarantine? I haven't had any real challenges for Ben let to do all these technical things but in terms of my mind and my physical being. It's not been any challenges. A tool we're also germanized germanized. You adapt very well. Something else was so cool that I looked up. Actually you your own photographer for essence magazine for the cover of that. I was so intimidated when all the equipment arrived all. I know how to do is to sit in front of the lights and get my photographs. I had to be my hairdresser products photographer for as one of my housekeeper cook and I I really enjoy this time of a whole essence magazine that sought my culture. It was for me a privilege and an honor to be able to do this and it come out okay and some other things that you have going on. They're very funny. You partnered with Pat McGrath. Obviously legendary make yes. We will be it will. Finally I've been holding for so long that I am the hat McGrath. Labs spokesperson model and I'm so very much looking forward to you to see what we've done and what we've created. I Love Pat. Pat Mcgrath is like family to me. She's the best makeup artist in the world. I love pets dots. I love what she's created is just so much fun. It's very user friendly and very for us it easy if you have. Somebody wanted to make up tipping. You have learned in all of your years in this business. What is the one that has stuck with you and been the most helpful through everything I think really is not to go too much heavy on the foundation of powder? It's nice. Skin is the first and foremost important thing to me. It's nice that the skin is dewey and a little shiny and not to Matt final question a trend that should live on forever. It's very hard for me to answer that question. I'm going to be very honest because I'm not someone I wonder why when I WANNA win. Like for instance. On Sunday I will address. Nineteen thirties is just. I go by how I feel. I think you have to know how to wear clothes and not close where you everyone pretty much been collected vintage clothing for many many decades so I mix and match. I don't feel the need to shop. I've got the most incredible five Naomi. I have to say it has. It is truly been an honor to speak to you today. You are such legend. I have been such a huge fan for basically my entire. I wish I could share it. Oh that's all I needed to hear for the next ten years next. Next year we will be together. I will make it happen for some reason Obviously congratulations on being the face of PAT McGrath. Labs were so excited for. You cannot wait for that to come out and try all of the different products anytime you wanna come back. Please come back then so much then. Go Work Morgan. Are you guys? It has been a show and I think we are all in need of drink so I have mine here Friday. We're going to wrap things up with some feel. Good Friday and we want to give a huge shot up to ten year old Chelsea Fair. She has sent more than fifteen hundred homemade art kits to kids in need since the start of the pandemic and shoot created. Chelsea charity last year to help children in shelters in foster care so that they would have access to art supplies. Oh this is a great idea and I think if every child out there does one list tiktok awake make some people the world would be a better place does next awesome so best. Buy General Manager. Dennis Perry is hard appearing and relies on Reading Lips. When he learned all stores must wear face coverings. He was concerned he wouldn't be able to communicate with his employees and customers as a solution company. Leaders got employees volunteers to make his entire staff facemasks with vinyl cutout so he can still read the lives awesome. Let's give it up for Jenny. Stay now who corona virus at the age of one hundred and three and guess what she celebrated with an ice cold. Beer cheers to that. How would you celebrate odd? Celebrate winter and take a drink all we get outlier definitely doing that. Go do something very fancy our guys. It is time for the weekend next week. We'll be back on daily pop. We are hanging with the Rock Air CA. Jane and we will have a very special celebrity guests for a feel. Good Friday. Don't miss it but I check out my new show binge club this weekend nonsense guy.

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Rock Bottom with Ty Mitchell

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46:33 min | 7 months ago

Rock Bottom with Ty Mitchell

"The soapy is Canada's most prestigious contemporary art prize bringing national and international attention to Canadian artists. Age Forty and under Stephanie. Comm Lang was the winner for two thousand. Nineteen picking up the hundred thousand dollar top prize. Learn more about Stephanie. And the four so be finalists in the two part series. The new masters on. Cbc ideas for more information about the award visit. Www dot gallery dot ca slash sobe. This is a CBC podcast. Hey listeners just a heads up. This episode contains a couple brief descriptions of sex because we talked to porn actor ty Mitchell. Just be aware that may be triggering. Titillating WE GO China. We are six feet apart in. The studio is reality for the new world order. Have you been? Isn't it so weird to ask that question anymore? Lake were still so socially trained to be like. How are you expecting someone just to say? Fine Right. But no one's fault. We are not fine. I I've been thinking about a lot in this moment because it's all of your worst fears coming together. I think like being your friend over the years I I realize that your fear is really the fear of social breakdown. Yeah it's really the fear of society not really being able to work for everyone anymore. Yeah well I really regret watching the handmaid's tale year and a half ago. I regret reading every just opium novel. I've ever read in my life so last week like when this sort of really started to hit us here in Canada I sort of spiraled into like these dystopia n worst case scenario imaginings than. I really freaked myself out. You know but then I spoke to a friend of mine like whose whole family is scientists. And he just really calm down brought me back to. Earth so science is grounded. Yeah well you told me. We had a conversation and you were like. I'm only listening to information that is coming from the health officials and the scientists do think that's important right now. I mean I I watch almost every press briefing. We have this like really iconic doctor here in Quebec where we live is name is Dr Arruda. He has a way of conveying social distancing measures. That makes it almost like enjoyable right. Just take time for yourself do things. You never really have time to do but that you could only do at home like this is not a moment of like great freedom. You know the time to like we can't make our wildest dreams come true when when I you know. Social distancing is a new concept for all of us but when I was reading about it I was like wow. This is Isa's Paradise for China. No it's not no no. I'm definitely an introvert. I definitely need a lot of alone. Time to recharge. But I'm also someone who thrives on connection I mean that's the basis of everything that we do as performers. Getting up on a stage is not really about like my sort of selfish enjoyment. It's about creating this feeling of connection and like that's when I feel the most alive that's the part. That's very worrisome. With this is like I love live events live show heard. I've always said this and I've said it usually in response to the threat of the way you know. Social Media and online content threatens live performance. But one thing that I've said many times is that in my mind like the death of our society and our humanity is the end of live performance. Because it's sort of like one of the last things that still really brings us face to face with one another so right now in this sort of new normal but it's not really a new normal that we can get used because it's changing everyday but what's an average day for you right now in the midst of this well. The first few days I organize my books for some reason that gave me security and I felt like okay. I still have the books. Everything's GonNa be alright And then I live with roommates so you know like I'm never home so I never see my roommate But then we still don't really talk weird. It's this weird like we social distance in the apartment. You know which is good. I have my own desk. He has his death. The health experts would be in agreement. I try to wake up early ish and not like stay in bed but one thing. I did really early on was actually to deactivate in my facebook profile I kept messenger but the activated facebook and deleted facebook and instagram. From my phone. So I'm actually you know watching the news on television and being like Oh this is enough and kind of being able to feel when I've had enough information or you know even food like let's say I feel more connected to what I need right now in a really strange way. I'm weirdly calm through this and now like I don't have a lot to do but I am. I you know I try to write a little bit. I mean it's not all successful but I'm really a I'm really sort of taking stock is what I'm doing. Mostly what how are your days? I'm so panicked that I try to sit down and read and I just can't like there's so many thoughts going through my mind so I- surprisingly have been sleeping really well. Maybe this is too dark humor. Like I'm really saying this jokingly maybe we'll just delete it but every night before I go to bed I kind of I'm like I hope I don't wake up in the morning but I I do wake up but I I get it because when I wake up. I'm surprised that waking up and I'm still here I do this but I don't want to minimize the seriousness of lake suicidal idiot. But that's not what it is for me. It's just more like I'm just so overwhelmed that I kind of imagine that scene in sleeping beauty where sleeping beauty falls asleep and then all the good fairies go around the kingdom and put everyone asleep until she wakes up right. I'm like can we all just be in some kind of medically induced coma fix this. Wake us up when it's over because I'm Jay. I can't. I can't say that I've been super functional. I mean it's really hard to be creative. Yeah why can't I haven't even attempted that yet but at the same time to me. It's really an opportunity to get back to basics to get back to the essential to like not run around all day life before this was a rat race. You know and I think this has put a stop on the rat race for so many and I think I think a lot of people are looking at their lives and like what am I running after. Yes Roy and I think it proves that a lot of things like you know The nine to five workweek showing up at an office every day. Maybe is not the way to go in the future. Every aspect of life now is kind of You know is disturbed and I. I think it's bad like ninety nine percent bad but I think there are few ways that we could be like. Oh wait a second like for me. That's kind of the silver lining. I believe that's so strongly I think positive is more than one percent you know and I do believe in God. I don't know how to say this without sounding so corny but like I do believe that there is a universal force you know it is sort of guiding us moments especially like this. Come with a message you know. And I think that we've spoken about this on the show with our gas leak. We've spoken about you. Remember talking to law and morality about gentrification and the way that people in San Francisco can afford to live there and all of these communities have been pushed out. We've spoken about it in terms of what's happening here in Montreal. The way that rent prices are going up and up and up everywhere and people are having to get more than one fulltime job just to afford the basics and the way that corporate greed has ravaged the environment and it was like how much longer we're going to be able to keep that up for this. Pandemic has the sort of capability to shake the foundations of everything that has been so corrupt. This means that we just are looked after more and that we are all guaranteed a sort of basic living standard. Would you run for office? Yes you've really sound like someone who should run for office. I feel you told me 'cause you're so into for listeners. We're into astrology boat trauma and I are Scorpio rising with Scorpio moons. You love a transformational one time. You told me that my son is in my house of communication and like so. That's where I shine like. That's where my strengths are is like. I WANNA get in this situation like I want to be part of communicating some kind of hope because I felt like at the beginning of this like so brought down like I was like literally a ball on the floor sobbing. You know like I was so I think one of the things that hit me the most like what if I never get to see my grandmother again. We can't visit her right now because she's eighty eight and we might be carrying it a symptomatically so none of us can see our elderly loved ones and I had this like total breakdown but as the days have gone on like I'm finding more and more strength in just embracing this moment. I'd love to be sitting on those press conference. I'd love to even just be the comedic relief or just like just to offer some warmth because I think some of these press conferences are very cold. Don't you think that's what celebrities are trying to do? No I think they're just they're continuing to self-aggrandizing and I love a ridiculous celebrity moment. But I'm fed up of it and I think the only flying that's the only one that's really resonated. Everyone Watch Naomi Campbell on YouTube. But but seriously it's like already in just a week so many of my more frivolous interests have become meaningless and I don't necessarily think it's going to be permanent but like I don't give a shit right now about what celebrities are doing like. I really dont taking a bath. I don't I saw it and it's horrifying but I honestly I'm just so uninterested right but I look at this and I think it's quite phenomenal that as a society where I mean. A lot of people are suffering. People will die and that's obviously terrible but I as a society as a whole in human culture human civilization will continue after this there will be human beings here in absolutely. This is not. I really don't people who are like jumping to like this is the end of days. This is an apocalypse. Shut up please. But it's it's funny. You're you want to speak up. You want to be in the community and through the because I this idea of quarantine to me is very new. Because I'm I'm always out. I'm always doing things really enjoying like shutting down the noise but I'm glad you're enjoying it because they think for people like you who are social and always on the go and rarely at home. It could be really hard. Yeah one thing that I've been doing like I've really gone back to phone conversations every few days. I take an hour and I call six people. Just do ten minute conversations with more just to check in and it's been really nice like I started talking to my childhood best friend like cliven spoken to in years years So it's you know like there are silver linings And to be honest I spend a lot of the mornings just like sexting a lot of different guys signed having these like hot erotic conversations and sending and I can't believe how many people are still trying to hook up so like these guys were like. Are you free today can come over? I'm like are you out of your mind like we are social distance thing. No one is available right now. Stay home and I've convinced some people doing the Lord's work have something to share with you. What a few days before it got crazy yes. I took a routine sti tests and a few days ago. I got a call I tested positive for one Clemencia. Oh my God but I was so happy media and not cove in nineteen right when I got the call. 'cause you know they call people who were in contact with someone who tested positive. Yes so when I got the call. Please don't let it because someone had been in touch so much more manageable. It's more pretty dramatic. So and that moment I. I never thought I'd be grateful to the media but in that moment I was I sort of feel like this almost works out perfectly from my kind of sexuality which I just want to like. Send people my nudes and have them send me their news. But I don't actually see them face to face like now. That's what everyone is doing. So kind of works to my advantage so curious to see the data from porn sites. I'm sure through the roof yet. Lead we talk to Time Mitchel. Who's also known online as pro bottom very explicit porn name? I mean we. We spoke to him today. They started to shut down in New York City where he's based and he was able to get in the studio. I don't think he would be able to get sick day before things really got crazy so it was interesting to speak to high because in addition to being a porn performer. He's also a really good writer like he writes a biweekly column for M. E. L. Magazine Male magazine And he's also written a piece for dazed on pay rates in the porn industry. And he's kind of a Marxist Bernie supporter porn actor and he's an out gay porn actor which is also pretty rare in a world where you have a lot of gay for pay actors play. Tai also had a really interesting upbringing. He grew up in the suburbs of Las Vegas. Which just that. Just see that scene so we were curious about how that setting might have informed his personal trajectory. I grew up you know driving around a residential neighborhoods in circles eating Taco bell and smoking. Hookah and garages while my parents were serving cocktails to tourists on the casino floor Sex advice is at the total economic center of it. And so I think that that has some kind of effect on your ideas about sex and sex work more broadly. My mom were a boost. Yea To work every night black tights to work and you know like my best friend and I was a teenager. Her roommate was a stripper. Like these are just kind of things that were like part of my normal day to day that I realized once I left Las Vegas or I guess sort of bizarre but not the most bizarre thing but I guess very formative to becoming gay porn star did you. Did you always enjoy having people look at you in a sexual way and fetish is you? I feel like as a young person. I really really crave that kind of attention ally. I came out when I was like fourteen and coming out. Young made me really eager to fulfil that identity. You like when you're fourteen. You don't have a ton of access to sex the way that you do when you're twenty four and say that it's harder to come out when you're fourteen. I think I'm really fortunate and privileged. Have come out when I was fourteen and to have been able to live pretty openly and comfortably like in my with my mom and everything. How old were you when you film your? I seem to remember that scene. I thought my first scene four years ago when I was twenty two genes not too young. Yeah I think. I'm pretty grateful that I held off because you know. Between the time I was eighteen. Twenty three I had explored nightlife. I experimented with drugs. I had experimented with sex like kind of got a certain comfort level around all these things and develop certain boundaries. My Body had kind of hit in some ways a second puberty and I was feeling really excited about my sexuality and how it looked and feeling this like kind of hit this moment I was like I really love porn. I really really WanNa be an so when you did finally take the Leib. What was your first. Shoot Lake. My first shoot was for raw castings dot com and for Maverick men direct site and I was in a rental house with maybe ten other models for about like four or five days where they basically would they had me scheduled with someone specific in advance And then I wound up doing two more scenes with people that they taught me having chemistry within the House I need shoot took about like An hour and a half or two hours to film Yeah that first thing was for raw castings like my face was in the carpet and my ask up and he was fucking me in the ass while he had his foot press down against my face and he had just these like nasty straight guy. Toenails to and you had chemistry with them. Yeah it was on and the girls ate it up and and and you know it was. It was like it was my call me. Maybe I was very proud of that. Do you remember what you would talk about on the set with the guys like especially if I shoot just coming in as the Newbie and I mean it was weird because it was weird mix of light? It was it was really. It was a bro Environment and that was really weird for me to be around a bunch not just like men but like dudes you know just like it's working out playing pool like I don't know it was weird. I haven't done that kind of production style since then was a nerve wracking or exhilarating. It was exhilarating. I was into it. I was eager to prove myself and I think that I did. I think it was hanging out with these guys who I didn't have any conflicts with anyone. Everyone was pretty easy to get along with and and chill I would not do a situation like that again. I think that there was a lot of room in that situation for risk and like Shitty experiences. That fortunately didn't happen Do you remember in what ways felt sort of risky or You know that if any of those guys had you know thrown some kind of Tantrum or gotten really fucked up urban doing drugs on the sly. I would probably felt unsafe if anyone had you know. I was sharing a room of sharing a bedroom with someone you know and like that just kind of creates a lot of room for risk when you enter a set like do you. Do you feel like you have to emotionally protect yourself. You feel pretty you have trust. Everything will be alright. Nowadays I have a lot of comfort. You know nowadays. I know that I have a huge following. You know. I know a lot of the producers and directors industry now and a lot of other performers. You know I have a lot more power than I did when I started and therefore feel safer and like I have a lot more access to recourse. If I feel I've been treated badly. There is an exhibition EST side of me that fantasy of like being objectified and but sometimes when I actually think about toying with the idea. There's a part of me that gets suddenly like really scared. Because I imagine that the reality would actually make me feel really exposed and vulnerable. And I'm just curious for you like how did the reality of entering this world compare with maybe your fantasy of the world. Well I should backpedal so before I started sending on photos. I was experimenting a lot with camping. I think it started camping for the first time in like nineteen and I was in college and was trying to make extra cash but mostly was like very exhibition aesthetic so I had already been on the Internet by the time that I was applying to point which was another big thing as it was like you know. The ship has sailed on my nudes being right by a lake. So camping was more my entry point than anything and also I was doing doing other forms of sex work so I had a rent boy profile. That was another ship that had sailed in terms of like tarnish when you just in terms of like ways that I could be disqualified from like public office or working with women or something like that. If somebody really wanted to get evidence against me like that was already available at least it definitely felt that way. At the time I had no way of knowing that fast forward five six seven years like it feels like everyone has news on the internet or somewhere bus. Yeah it's good to meet you still with Yoga. We just want to really focus on our breathing a lot. Okay so let's get started by closing our eyes and doing a lot of deep breathing case and hell like this. Okay see Vanita. You're out a little bit here and wish those hits as a porn actor. Are you drawn to things that give you a story line and character like do you like having that sort of aspect of expressing herself creatively? Well when I first started doing porn really hopeful that I would get to be involved in really kind of on guard Creative Artsy fartsy porn. That was like really getting bigger on the time. I think with cocky boys that were black spark videos. Tumbler there was. I want your love. They were like all these kind of examples that I really wanted. Be Involved in this kind of art full porn and I couldn't really like attract the attention of the filmmakers. Who were doing that kind of work? So I've found out I really give good funny faces and I really good at like crossing my eyes and helping them pop out of my head in the sidebar of an ad and so I've wound up finding my niche in these kinds of Zany wacky heavy pornos that in my view resemble a lot of like sitcoms that we grew up with You're kind of like the Jennifer Aniston of porn. I guess I'm like Tim the toolman so when you were watching these I just brought me back when you mentioned black spark it was. How would we describe it was sort of? Diy Bedroom Porn. Maybe produce like ten twelve years ago. Yeah and it was all done in movie very blatantly and it was all like mood lighting and but what was striking about it is it was like the type of live like Jack. All American chocolate you would see on. Shaun cody or corporate fisher. Usually some kind of mask or Bandana or something that you would never see their face. I remember that that was really the sort of initial wave of what you're describing this more like artsy. Diy Porn. I mean today. There's so many performers like you Haas God and there was Colby Keller obviously sent Morris Matthew Camp. Do you feel it's just an aesthetic or it's actually a political statement to make porn this way today. I what I really liked. Abou- like what Blacksburg was doing. What I've always really appreciated about the way. I think Francois kind of porn to is that a lot of people say I want to make art. Porn? I WANNA make artsy porn. I WANNA do porn but make and when they do that. They are distancing themselves from pornography. And they're basically trying to say like I want to do sexual content but make it artful and in doing so. They deny the fact that there can already be much artful about sexual content and and pornography like it reproduces this hierarchy were pornography is a low sean RIA that is void of are already and what I really appreciate. That people do is to make porn. That's stylized as opposed to like our that has fucking I wanNA talk about the industry itself so you work both independently selling your own content followers and you also work with bigger studios and I'm just curious. About how you sort of navigate those two worlds and what are some of the advantages to each well so I have had a somewhat unusual career with porn. Because I've never been signed to work exclusively with any I've been a free agent my whole career and have been quite literally passed around a across the industry and I have a few friends who are in a similar position to me but So the industry still works in a way. That's very old Hollywood like you're if you're an actor you're attached to studio when you're GonNa work with the same studio for a number of years. Yes contracts are commonly about six months okay but people often renew them and it's unclear like how obsolete that might be becoming now that So many people are on only fans because the studios are simply not booking people often enough and paying US enough to support a living Such that we can opt out of selling content on only just for fan. We have listeners. Who have no idea what only fans and just for phases? I mean I can explain because I'm paying for porn just for fans sitting a few bucks A few performance every month. So it's kind of a private channel. You have to pay to even access like a preview clip in my experience. You can't really see where the performer has been posting. And there've pictures videos it's like being an influence like a youtuber. You would have collaborations with other channels but how does that change relationship with the fans like do people feel that they can message you directly or that you owe them something if they if they pay you every month When you are a sex worker or I don't know just a naked person. More broadly people are always going to feel like You move them something you know. Put a boundary. I ignore people and I don't feel bad I don't know I haven't had a particularly demanding. Following has grown fans. I think that's why yeah I have cool fans but I think I also have broke fans rats and Bernie Supporters Bernie supporters like. I'm definitely a porn star of the working class. I've never been that good enrichment slow to ask. Thanks for being with Brad over. Tv You work with gay for pay performers. Yeah we're working performance all the time especially when I was starting out. I was often paired with very amateur. Gave your pay guys and I've learned a lot about working class blue collar sexualities and I've learned a lot about what do you mean by us? Just like some guy who's like working class is gonNA is GONNA do porn. Is that what you mean? Yeah I mean I think that labels like queer sexually fluid are not words that like really reach a lot like really poor straight rural communities like work with a lot of guys who identify a stray or even toyed with the idea of identifying as like bi or pan sexual but who like their their their lives are constituted by straight people in st things in you know like I I've met I've learned from a lot of these guys that like them. Identifying as gay wouldn't really help them a lot of the gave. Her guys are not in a closet. Okay let me explain this differently. I've worked with a lot of guys who are comfortable having gay sex who even like loves sucking Cock and love. Having Dixon their ass A lot of gay for pay guys like Trans Women for example and that doesn't necessarily mean they're not straight and so I've learned from a lot of these men that what makes a person closeted isn't the fact that they have gay desire is what makes a person closet is that they have enough gay desire that it sends them into a crisis. That's so interesting. Do you think that because obviously porn sort of plays up on some of those stereotypes like you know there's porn that like really wants you to believe that someone is super straight or brigade or whatever it is? Do you think porn sort of has the ability to reach those audiences and sort of teach them that vocabulary of Pan Sexual and opening up your identity or do you think porn works to enforce you know more rigid labels that these guys have been taught like I kinda see both ways like even if you just go on. It's like there's so many labels that like porn is so categorized but at the same time like especially now there's so many cool porn stars like you were like using your platform to really say something. I guess I'm just curious about like where you think. The industry is headed in terms of openness or sort of reinforcing stereotypes. Well I know a lot of the people in my industry have had different experiences with fans who get very vitriolic around whether someone straight or not. It's it's really weird like there's a lot of guys who consider themselves bisexual consider themselves queer and sexually fluid and when they demonstrate that online. Like you know if they post videos with women or if they purdue by studio porn they get like really harshly trolled by a lot of gay porn fans. Like what's really specific about gay. Porn is neither this fetish for straight men or fetish for gay sex but a fetish for men who are in this weird doorway of the closet and the erotics of straight identified men who are caught exhibiting a repressed and this framework of closet and the pornography recording that like moment of the closet being failure or something like that is like I think something that gets ARADO sized over and over and over again by porn and especially by viewers and so when they are dismayed about gay porn stars hooking up with women. I think it comes from feeling that that specific erotic moment has been violated to them. I don't know it's like if you know being out and gay and happy about it is not hot. It's not sexually attractive. You don't WanNa jerk off to that. Yeah and I think that you know This scholar Linda Williams writes about straight porn being dislike a frenzy of the visible. And so much of it has to do with seeing things that cannot be seen like the female orgasm for example. As being this thing that we're like that that film is trying really really desperately see making all of these kinds of weird maneuvers to like make a spectacle of gay porn is doing something similar but different around closets and repressed sexuality and desire and I think a lot of the point that I'm in definitely Is taking place in this like fantasy world in which there is no sexual identity Except IN MAY BE Like off handed like wait. But I'm straight you know. One thing that I think is really interesting. That's happening. Is that for so long. Even though porn is so widely consumed sort of hypocritically remained underground. I read that like nine men out of ten watch porn and I think it's probably really accurate word women and so like there's always been the sort of hypocrisy around porn in that lake. So many consumable were sort of like consuming it secretly but now like with only fans the idea of people sort of having to like produce their sex life on social media. It's becoming more and more mainstream might. Even Kim Kardashian has a super like porn star aesthetic which we never really saw celebrities. Do before. And I'm just curious what your take on that is like I do think that we all kind of have this lake secret desire to be porn stars because I feel like it's that idea of like producing your sex. Life is is trickling down to like everyone's everyday life. Everyone wants to present this image that they're like getting it all the time in the robot. Something kind of talks about that too at the same time. I think that like there was already something deeply pornographic about instagram. I mean I think there was already something. Very exhibitionist about social media in the first place and this like imperative that we make visible what was previously not. Look I think that sex work has always been more common than any of us? Can Measure or recognize. It's just now very visible to us. Hi I'm Leah and I'm failing you know us as the host of the podcast. The secret life of Canada. And we've got an exciting bit of news for you. We do. We want go to school with you. That's right we are now part of the curriculum in a way. We've teamed up with educators from across the country to create teaching guides that go along with some of our best episodes. We've got teaching guides for indigenous history Caribbean Canadian Migration Black History Asian. History it's very exciting. It is very exciting and so each guard comes with ad free audio transcripts lesson plans slide shows and a whole bunch of other stuff. Yeah just had to see dot ca slash teaching guides for more info. And it's free. It's free something that's so interesting about you. Is that obviously you? You enjoy making porn but also you have this whole side of yourself where you're an active voice for social justice and anti-capitalism. Why did you want to use your voice to talk about pay and talk about unions? You know like I don't know if a lot of porn performers where people in that industry talk about Labor conditions Yeah I mean. We're kind of like Uber drivers in the sense that we don't often get to talk with the people who do the same job as us about our job right We had a pretty long award season. This winter was like a week and a half with like two to three major awards shows and so it was a ton of us all kind of in the same couple hotels for like ten days and One of the takeaways was about the huge range in which we're getting paid and how certain some some students competed predatory with taking advantage of amateur models. Not Knowing what those standards are the fact that there's no real place for us to talk about what the standards are should be So I wrote the piece for days to about performer. Pay Rates and let's say watch like a studio seeing like how much is a gay performer. Getting paid for that I mean you know like when you're watching any given porno and it's weird because certain studios appear to be much bigger and grander than they actually are. The words studio is misleading. Because the word studio makes it sound like it's frigging paramount. I mean they're definitely suits. I I worked for cities before people like wow you. You're working with them. That's that's a huge deal and it's like one dude like so. How much would you get paid for like a scene? Anything people get paid anything from four hundred dollars a scene which is abysmal. Two to two and a half grand. If they're you know in extremely high demand My friend Joey Mills. He tweeted about how like we should really come to a consensus. That like a thousand is should be like a minimum standard It's always tricky to talk about these things on twitter. Because there's so much caveat to that you know if I had been a different place in my career and saw seeing. That tweet opened like easy for you to fucking say like you're you're super popular like swing porn star. Who's studied with awards and has this huge fan base like yet you can ask for a thousand. Most people in the industry feel that way especially if there are people of color especially if they're HIV positive especially if they're older especially if they don't have a six pack you know you feel and you're made to feel as though you're completely replaceable. All the time because you. You are Writing that piece was Way that I felt like I could take a stand and I hope that anyone who's considering doing gay porn reads it and a lot of people assume that we are making as much money as porn stars made the ninety s And a lot of people just totally unaware that we are most of us living like scene to scene. What do you think porn can tell us really about ourselves in society today a? It's a big question. I don't know that it has to you know and one of the things I kind of pushed back on because there are a lot of people who are like porn should be taking a stronger responsibility in role in educating people about sex and there's too many toxins an important and I don't think that we should rely on What are ultimately companies that belong to a private sector that is unaccountable to the public to teach people about sex and I think that porn defacto is one of the ways that we learn about sex but I think that porn is has no obligation to educate people any greater than the rest of media and other genres have an obligation to educate people. So What I want people to get from gay porn is a really strong orgasm. Time Mitchell. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you for having you as safe in the madness writer porn actor ty Mitchell tie rights. Biweekly Call Him in Mel magazine called disconnect us. The latest is on poly-amorous and socialism. Your favorite thing ties professional. Instagram is at pro bottom. His personal account is at time Mitchell ex and on twitter he has time Mitchell. Ex- ex- ex- obsession sash obsessed. With what am I obsessed with? Do you even have an obsession this week. Believe or not I do although I have to say you know like when it comes to the things that have normally brought me entertainment. I'm not fully experiencing the same way so like I haven't really been able to sit down and read a book. I can't focus even listening to music. It's not really doing much for me and watching net flicks and whatever. I'm like kind of zoning out but There is a new show on Netflix. It's called feel good and it was co created and Co written by a really brilliant comedian. May Martin you. You've perform got to perform with her two years ago just for a Canadian who lives in the UK exotic yeah she's queer the show is semi autobiographical and I have to say like there. Were moments of watching the show and any show that I've been watching really where it feels. Almost weird to be watching people go to bars have relationships so it's really about a comedian. Yeah living a normal life exactly. I mean it's it's was. I'm from Canada. I came over in a canoe recently with Celine Dion. A high high high. I've never been on date. It's so well acted. It's so well directed Lisa Kudrow. Please mom honestly. She is so good in this like she is as riveting in this is she is comeback. She just gives this lake hilarious nuanced because the show the the irony is like usually when comedians are given a show that they get to build around their own stage persona and their own lives and make something autobiographical it you know. It tends to be like really funny but may show is like very emotional and it deals with a lot of heavy issues like addiction maze. Character is sort of constantly running away from herself. She's been a lot of denial about her own addiction issues where she's at in her recovery and what her capacity is to love and I just feel that you know as we're all self isolating. This is a moment where as hard as it's going to be. We're also going to be confronting ourselves who we are. And we don't have many places to escape to right now so I found the show. Really poignant in that sense. It's like we do have to. This is the moment that we've been given to really look at ourselves and not run away. God I'll definitely. Wha What about you? What are you obsessed with well at first? I was obsessed with how stores an architectural Digest Youtube Shack. Because I was. I just wanted to like picture celebrities in quarantine. We were all being quarantined on compounds where we had our own pools and tennis courts. We'd be fine. That's it so you know time a day but then that wasn't enough I don't know about you. Do you have a big pile of books to read in Your House? You know that when I was Marie Condo in my life right I got rid of so many books that I hadn't read 'cause I thought I would never read them right big mistake because now you did mistake so I have so many books because I buy more books than I read like math. And there's one that I've wanted to read for minds and I feel. The timing is so perfect the title is how to do nothing resisting the attention. It come on to me The writers Geno del. She is an artist writer teacher who lives in Oakland and she just like recaps. How after the election in two thousand sixteen and after there was a big Fire in a art loft that killed over thirty people and she just like takes us back to like how empty she felt and how she wasn't able to focus and feel and concentrate on the things that were important to her But it's not written in a way to like you know. Put your cell phone down you know. Is it a memoir or is it more? Instructional it's part memoir part self. Help me but okay heart you know. She's using quotes from artists and philosophers. And she just takes us to this this physical place. It's a Rose Garden in Oakland where she has spent a lot of time away from the digital world away from the computer away from the phone to kind of connect to that sense of concentration and focus and feeling and she describes how she was eventually able to hear the birds in that space. I mean it sounds very portland. Yeah but she was able to hear the birds in that space she became able to Ferenci the types of birds. Right really shift. Her Focus Sushi describes how that process you know. She's brought it to her all life and how you know. She realized she didn't need to be connected all the time. She didn't need to have every moment of everyday be productive rates and that she needed time to know what was actually really important to her I'm kind of a third way in so I know exactly the ends right. She found right. I'm sort of a this. Sounds really great like. I think this is what a lot of us need right now. Like even for me like I know that in my isolation and I've been doing it slowly already but like I. I need to cut back on the online time because it's not really serving. It's so unproductive right now usually use social media for my work you know but there's no work right now so I love the idea of doing that. Also I think that like you know. We're so trained to associate are worth with our productivity. That's even that tweet that went viral. You know being like you know when Shakespeare was an isolation he wrote King. Lear was enormous backlash. Mainly can you just let us be unproductive right now? We are so overwhelmed. But this could be a moment. You know for us to reconnect to those things and learn to be okay in silence because I still. I still see this shallow side of myself where I'm like. Oh I should get in shape. Delake workout had these fantasies that I'm going to get like a Jaylo body like Kato Diet. Finally get it finally yeah I. Let's be realistic. So I think this is. I'm just a third way in but this is the kind of life changing. Reads that you're like. Oh this is going to stay with me so I'm really like taking my time How to do nothing a genuine dell and if you want to read more about our obsessions we still have a column with extra we do. And it's fabulous. You can check it out at daily XTRA DOT COM. That's Daily X. T. R. A. DOT COM. What else are you? GonNa do chosen families produced by Thomas Leblanc winter with crystal do hayme crystal also edits and mixes the show big thanks to Jimmy. Chosen families. Music is by the loss Boyce. Judy Goo is our digital producer. Tanya Springer is a senior producer of CBC podcasts in our if Noorani is the executive producer. And also. If you haven't already please join our facebook page. Thomas is deleted his facebook profile. But I'm still there. If you have questions about the show about the scenes or anything you want to ask. 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FOF #2807  Celebrities Are All Rotten People

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FOF #2807 Celebrities Are All Rotten People

"In the early years of drag race Rupaul said in a candid interview. Celebrities are all truly rotten people and he meant it. It's hard to meet with someone who inspires you because they don't always live up to your expectations. And we've all heard rumors of celebrities like Ru Allen. Boy George Madonna Naomi Campbell and Miley Cyrus. Being terrible behind the scenes to their fans or abusing using the people they work with. Are they justified in their anger or they just struggling with their success today. Comedian Carly Ballerini joins us to take a look at what happens. When marginalized people become stars? And how the facade defame usually comes with a few cracks. Plus Musician Casey spooner sues Madonna for not paying him for the song. God control did Miley Cyrus steal from the sweet feminist and Rupaul continues to reject the idea of having Trans Women on his show. Saying there's not one thing I can say that will make people feel better about it. How meet our new Trans Contestants armfuls defer knows billion and this is feast of fine? We begin today's show with the song. Shut the fuck up up using leaked audio footage of Barbara streisand. cussing out her audience in one of her concerts. The song by the composer Revolution Shen got a lot of attention online in two thousand six and got him the attention rupaul. Who hired him to the music for star Bootie and the theme for Paul's drag embrace? Take a listen. Can't take a joke. Thus our guest today is comedian. Carly Ballerini who is very fascinated by the secret lives of famous celebrities and entertainers who reveal reveal themselves to be rotten to the core. Walk Fun by the way inky or they use orange or having whereas you came highly recommended by Shannon Noll Shan so before we started taping you or expressing concern and worried about about saying things that might harm your career as a comedian. Well not like I mean it's just not I don't actually think that Eddie Buddy is like the worst person in the world but man would it via shame to like at some point you know. Be Be like Ah On you know. I don't know we're GONNA talk about like Allen or something it'd be else like I remember when you were talking about how everyone says that I mean behind the scenes. It's happened to me. Has It really you know we express opinions on the show and then later later on we meet that person. They're like I heard you true. Yeah I wonder if it's true but part of it is like I want to create a world where everybody's welcome and everybody can change and grow into being amazing kind progressive inclusive people totally and I think especially when it comes to be a very popular very scrutinized entertainer when there's millions ends and billions of dollars riding on your name. Your life can be extremely delicate and pressured and and and sometimes you you just don't have the psychological or spiritual or emotional tools to handle it. I was just thinking about this on like in at this morning. About just how much of what we see is just someone you know. Five people in a room created at that. That's not that's that is. This is no longer Ellen House. Think you assume specifically ellen because I was like 'cause I was thinking about how people are just like. Oh Oh she's like mean behind the scenes and she's not that cute L. and that you know we the world loves like Ellen as Alan Lim was created because Ellen came out as gay and in order to have a gay celebrity you you need to. You need to make them sexless and lovable like you have to make them so that they're not dangerous injuries. Do you know what I mean like. They're not so that they're not dangerous anymore. They're like a caricature or like a like something. That's not exactly human. Then they have to do that. I think that Roope that Rupaul. Because boy George Has George Yeah Madonna. uh-huh later in life too was famous hot minute like in the nineties and has had a bit of a career but now the superstar because now I think because he's an older a person does rupaul. Who talked at the awards ceremony with Milton? Borough with Milton Berle and they had that exchange where he when I was your age. I used to wear women's dresses. What are you wearing now diapers not Zala? You're black white gotta be black. New are cancelled at Milton. Brenda today would say to Rupaul. Your accounts right and cancelled. He was for a number of years right just like Oh. This person doesn't play by the danger. Yeah you can't be you can't be you can't be dangerous. You can't be any of these things. You must be lovable. And if you're lovable or if you're a little bit like snark danger it has to be a door. You know cause like like you see like sometimes Oh my God. I was watching 'cause we were like going to talk about. I was watching that show that she has now the show. No the the show that Alan has. There's like this one. That's like the game show. Have you guys seen the game like Rupaul and Ellen. And who's WHO's the CLOROX bleach lady. What's the question of bathroom expert? Lesbian Tall. AW BLONDE HAIR from Chicago sees from Glee Have Oh and and Oh oh Jane Lynch what are you talking about. Addy's bathroom it. Why is Jalen? She was while she was the bathroom experts. There was a TV commercial. She was back. I that's kind of like when I first because I actually met her crashed a party that she was at and she just looked at me and she may have known who I was because it was early out on my podcasting career and she looked at me and she gave me the finger. Like come over here. I WanNa talk to you. I'll talk to her and I said you know I always it was just. I've always loved you and I've loved your voice ever since you were on that. TV commercial for the bathroom produce. She's like yes. I was the bathroom expert. That's what it was and so it's really interesting that a lot of these entertainers love to be game. Show hosts more than talk show hosts. And we've we're doing but doing this. PODCAST for fifteen years. And we've observed that there's this undercurrent in marginalized people specifically what I call the Middle Children Society If you are a frustrated woman who's not heard or seen if you're an LGBTQ person who is not a self actualized if you are anybody who is struggling to be acknowledged in their own community they all have one thing in common they all either WanNa be on Ellen or be uh-huh yeah okay. I don't really care about either but I know I'm supposed to care for both end like or try to do both I think that I think that Allen represent something that I really cherish is like a little kid like okay so I'm dating a man now because I'm bisexual well But I I didn't know that I was. I knew I was a lesbian way before I knew that I could do both or whatever and like when I was young I was living with my very conservative very Italian grandparents and when they caught me it was a full nightmare. Buddy they they probably inappropriate sleepover and it was just like a full nightmare and I just remember like Ellen coming out and we all were sitting around watching that that episode the TV. Show the Sitcom where she into a microphone. And I'm like don't you mean lesbian. Thousands of women all overnight started describe themselves as gay. Yeah it was just it was just because like I was really young but like I just remember it being this moment because I looked at my grandparents and they both were like disgusted. Do you know what I mean. They were both like Oh some like she shouldn't do that on television. She that she just wants attention and little secret. Shame yeah yeah and I was like and I was like God it. You know what I mean like like watching people respond to that was like really important too for like me to know about stuff and then also just like watching a society kinda change too because of it like that was a crazy month. Martin Oprah how old were you at that time. I don't even know what. When did it come out? I wouldn't be seven ninety eight one thousand nine hundred six. I was in Grad school like ten or twelve or something. Everybody remembers where they were the moon landing. JFK's Af like that remembers. Where did that you know what I mean like really got and then all the Talian grandparents were mad at her and like she had to deal with that and she kind of rules like gone for a while and her audience is Italian? Grandma disagreement mother watching part of part of that is like is like everybody accepting her sexuality and then taking it kind of away from her and a little bit of a way and making her dance for them. So you like you rage I would be I would be murdering Hobos here anymore. I'm like I got my way we've been from hobos right now. She's she says that the dancy is caused consternation for her. She really was sharing. Never started that thing for sure but I think it's shocking and jiving in a certain kind of way right all a- as but like do you know what I mean like. That's that's it's just that's just to say like that's an example of like a like it wasn't dancing it would have been something else and that's just an example of the thing I think that brings it back to like talk. Shows are weird and I think that people really began for anything that we will like. Doc All get to to be Kinda like like a little bit evil on game shows Jeremy and look the host. Get to be like kind of in control of this lake back. Who knows if it's rigged like weird thing that happens to Parlour Ed's five fate to right yeah so let's look? Look at the timeline of Allen's lesbianism. Are you know how she likes to call it. Gay Ism Gezim is. She came out so she had a she was was an actor. A stand up comedian. I was hired as an actor on the Fox Sitcom Open House. There was in the late eighties. Okay and around. Around that time I would hang out and tore comedy clubs in the South West and southeast and at the age of Twenty One I ran into Ellen DeGeneres waiting in line at a lesbian bar called chances to use the bathroom which chances they only had they had. Non Gender Bathrooms Athems way back then. And there's this line to the bathroom and I thought Ellen was as really handsome muscular young blonde man. Yeah actually around and and I'm like Oh my God you're ellen from that set calm as she was just like. Yeah like gave me this kind of scar. All this angry look and I was like somebody who you have a lot of internalize velvet rage and she gets a Sitcom Alan where she did other movies. That were tip toed and danced around her sexuality because she was a very popular standup comic. Yeah and and then the sitcoms struggled and Ellen Degeneres and her team of writers stood back and said let's gamble. Let's try something wild and have you come out as a homosexual on national television and make it front page. It's news it's going to be a scandal but it's going to get people watching and it was successful incredibly successful for the first year but at the end of the day a Sitcom based on Ellen on generous. It's not something that most Americans wanted to watch right and the show was promptly cancelled. Meanwhile Ellen goes on on Time magazine and instead oh saying you know I'm a lesbian or I love women she said. Yep I'm gay. And then she went on Oprah where she exposed herself to a lot of people to mainstream extreme Americans sitting in audience confused and befuddled an angry. That this this sweetheart would come out as Americans America's America's lesbian sweetheart and since then Ellen then took some time off and she gambled again and did a daytime talk show. Oh just like oprah that appealed to stay at home moms and that's where San Grandmas and this is where we get the modern ellen. This is somebody who has a very complicated relationship with her frustrations as a module is person with her power as a as is probably the top talk show host of the day and when she's struggling with all these different kinds of issues things can get really crazy things and get really uncomplicated. And Not in a fun way for her well. She also had a like in her newest Special v because she talks about not not loving dancing in like fun way she also talks about. I stand up special on Netflix. You're talking about yeah she. I thought it was fascinating I loved. I thought it was really really really well done. And it's the ellen that the world needs to see loved it. I thought it was like real. I'd like she's kind of like this is how I am. And it's like how. How about fuck you like? She was like I'm sorry but she's she's talking about like how she like. She likes cars and she likes to speed. It's like Jesus it just talking about. How like Shh like speed see somebody like going slower and she'll be like wore a fucking asshole? It was great. It was just like seeing somebody who oh just kind of like wants to like assert something sometimes here and there and but you also come. She was talking about how she came from half the Christian scientists world where like her parents didn't even believe aspirin and like all this weird stuff or they wouldn't didn't like tend to her wounds correctly they were just like pray over them and is like oh I don't was it and that special. It was it somewhere else. where she's doing comedy? I was laying in my apartment with roaches crawling. All over me it was just filled with roaches. And I was just like I'm going to really make it big subsidy. Yeah she did. Yeah I don't know I like how do you make sense of Ellen's last year has been filled. eld mired in controversies from being an apologist for homophobic comedian. Kevin Hart share for. You know tweeting being how she's hanging out with George W Bush and embracing conservative. NFL Billionaire Jerry Jones. I think that Allen is a human even being is weird and complicated and I also think another thing that I really think actually is that like if you're in the top top tier of top tier of like rich celebrity people. It's really hard to like. Be Like Oh my peer is is shitty. Do you know what I mean. Like her and Kevin Hart know each other from for a long. They've known each other for a long long time and like Kevin Hart I mean I don't I don't particularly like obviously but like it knowing somewhat. I'm thinking of like five comedians. Yeah I know right now who I feel like. We're going to pop and I feel like I don't necessarily love what they're saying but I feel like when when if and when we both like continue on this road that were going on if we can get to like this one spot. That will be somebody that I have known. Then for forty years or your name and then it's GonNa be very hard to be like you did say this thing and I don't like a ton of if I don't like every part of your values but I know you as a person and you've we've always like we've we've shared all of these experiences together. It's kind of like when you have have family and you're just like yeah. I hate what my uncle thinks. But he's still my uncle during. I mean I feel like you know. In terms of the fifteen year history of our show and and you know people like cameras zito Matteo Lane who've become arguably very very successful Queer COMEDIANS I. I like to think that we had a positive influence on their humanity. And the the the the hundreds of podcasts that we've taped with a lot of these big names James is that it's an it's an ability to persuade somebody to listen to you and to contemplate a different way of thinking totally and and I'd like to think that you know we've had a positive hand in shaping in saving the souls of some of these people who may have been lost in the wilderness in in the chase of fame and fortune. We have so many friends and moved to Los Angeles in in chasing entertainment careers and mark. And I just kind of look look like you've lost your marbles. Yeah I think that people lose their goddamn marbles like when when I think that at some point you're not even when you're in such a weird world I I've been to La a couple of times in hung out with people who are like in the presence of like that weird world a a lot and they just like it feels like you're just not even talking the same language sometimes in you're like okay. I get it like what you're thinking about just has nothing to do with anything. The thing that I'm thinking about like why are you expressing. Human emotion like sounds like you're thinking so much about when when your personality polity is your career. It's the weirdest it's just the weirdest thing I'm not apologizing for for that but I also don't think that Ah I don't think that cutting off the cutting people off necessarily helps anything either like When people are like you know you shouldn't we shouldn't ever talk to these people again? It's like I don't know that that's the answer. I'm not sure that's not the answer but I don't know that that's the answer is going to be interesting to see. You know since you brought Kevin Hart. What's going to happen because Netflix is offered him especially where he's going to talk about his problem with the Lgbtq community hold like so much it's it's so and that's the thing is like that sucks and it's expert an expert like he's been rewarded for awarded it's like mark can can I say heterosexual men who they're Internet's full of people? I'm I'm thinking like some of these youtubers who half of their careers there representing us heterosexual and then they came out as gay. And everyone's like. Oh my God you're so amazing. So brave Martin engaged from the very beginning and no no one's giving me a medal for awards but that's not the point. Fitness discovery like discovery is a reward at a lot during look. I think that I think that people like being a part of like you going through a thing because they feel like they they like also also get it a terrible message. It's telling Marginalized Peoples Betcha. LGBTQ people hide who you are until you are are in a position of power. Totally fame and wealth. I think right now a lot of people are like are like getting big Because they are different. And I think that's cool. I think that we're going big with their audiences not with power makers so here's an example like someone like Madison arguably arguably a huge star like we had our on on cooking with drag Queens. The podcast we've done with her without blinking an eye. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying to to get a every to hang onto everywhere that she says. But it's hard for Hollywood or mainstream television to embrace Madison Edison because she is an unapologetic sex worker and transgender woman. Yeah that's the that is the RUB. It's like so upsetting because you're like advertisers. There's look at the thing you could be making but this is this this is your this is your jam. This is the thing that you love. You love to capitalize on people who do like stuff that gets everybody talking like. This is the perfect thing until that like I mean that's going to happen to and then that's going to have its own saying where than when and finally everybody gets on board because it's slowly progressing. It is undeniably where are you like. MLK You're like the art of justice. This is wide or just like I've said that for years the pop stars like this past year Madonna Donna. She's gotten so many lawsuits from her fans suing her for being late for show. I'm like I would be late for every two hours. Get Out of here. Just have a drink I would. It'd be like you guys WanNa come tomorrow. I feel bloated I. I was Donagh. Whoever said the show was going to start on time? Yeah you might be a very good reason why it's late injury. Things aren't working. Apparently she feels bloated as you want you. If you see Madonna Yuan Madonna to give her fucking not done with my animal yet like I need. Yeah the water's what is not clear. Water is not clear. I don't Madonna shitting our pants on stage. Sarah Madonna's career right now is the most fascinating it's it's ever been for me really. Why is that? Is it going to get any cooler than IPAD. Pirate getting murder disco bloodbath video. That was the best thing what we wanted. Ready to see for a long time and I would be very sad if I if Madonna was shot to death for real but it was. It was something really punk and weird and glamorous to to have her being shot to death and commenting on how sick and twisted Americans that were fascinated with these mass shootings. And really don't don't do anything about them. You know we're watching that's the weirdest we're doing. Just go down. I will say that that I think is the weirdest thing that's happening. There's a lot of weird stuff. The weirdest thing is just being like man. Can you believe another fourteen year olds just killed twenty people anyway and like doing Absolutely nothing about it like every other country like something like that will happen and then they'll be like we're abandoning literally everything. No one has forks in and we're not even bump stocks can we can't people sometimes need a machine gun. Okay like here and there I in high school. We had a kid. You had problems. His parents were both artists and he can come in with elaborate plans. Drawings of machine gun. Why did you the person that a young person he was like how he was gonNA kill us? What was going to happen? All this kind of stuff. We tell the teach the way this was before any of this kind before columbine changed everything it really did. Change everything for him. It was really it was about access. He didn't really have access rest to those kinds of a machine. Like everybody just randomly. Has it so weird like Amazon. Now can you really via Oh Kmart K.. Stands for kill and play hard for me to find lake. I shadow I like I. Just don't understand how all these kids are just like. Yeah I love I just have this kind of gun. And then this kind of gun. And I'm like what what is happening. And part of it is like observing this weird trend happening with marginalized marginalized celebrities who are in positions of power where they fall prey to this philosophy. What I call the the Church of toxic positively tables? I feel like I know what you're talking about but please let me read some of this stuff to you and this is kind of a meme on the Internet that I really love sharing talking about Turt- toxic positively is baby. You can do anything. I'll get over it. I hate that so much and instead let's talk about about validation. Hope and compassion right. This is hard. You've done hard things before and I believe in you is a very different way of approaching it Just be positive. That's store that's so I love. Okay yes I know what they say. There's a lot that can go wrong but what can grow right. There's yeah there's because there's also this this. I think that in our culture a lot of times I mean. It's always been this way but like like with instagram. And with all this stuff there's a lot of like faking faking Different emotions and and denying yourself and everyone else the ability to have like a real sadness or like a real address feelings. You don't address feelings and then everybody is like all the kids are suicidal. And everybody's shooting. It's just it's it's like we've we've basically re up to the fifties where everybody has to be like all buttoned up up in like a cute sweater with like tits to hear or whatever and then like and like going around and being like I've never I've never shed a tear honey. You know what I mean like that bullshit. Well there's there's this idea like don't worry be happy right. Said Bobby mcferrin hated by the way he won't talk about that Song. Yeah but but maybe say it's never fun to feel like that. It's something I can do to help you enjoy life. It's also that thing of like you know anybody who's ever been having like a panic attack or like having like an actual like real like meltdown. You can't you can't just say calm I'm down and that has never calmed down your navy. Invest never done anything made them more rates for for sure. So just being like just like you'll you'll uh-huh brushes off kid. Anybody can do anything when you feel like nobody like. You can't do anything right just a that's the same thing it's like. The calm calmed down of that. And as George tocchet would say Johnny McGovern rupaul. I would say all kind of share that toxic positively and told them like I've told it to their faces you know. They know that I feel about this about their approach to life and the reaction to me is like I don't know how else to survive. I don't know A to B and like Rupaul and recently in Vanity Fair the interview address. Once again this really strange. Trans Exclusionary radical feminist viewpoint. That transgender women don't belong on rupaul strikes That's really too bad. I really too bad dracula. Aw Camp WanNa Kiki other reality shows have benefited and and really grown and become really amazing shows to watch because they embrace people On all from all kinds of vantage points share expanding expanding were expanding. Anything is going to make it more varied and beautiful you know and I don't know that's that's dumb I I'd get position as Jonny McGovern said to me. I'm like Darth vader. You're like darth on this show. He said that that I'm that I'm secretly and I think that's a little bit of projection. Is that degree. Is this idea that I'm somehow this sinister person because I'm trying to get people to listen to each other and grow by dressing our feelings and for a lot the people who don't have access to a therapist or don't have a strong community or for whatever reason I would argue that Johnny does have access to therapy ban has a strong community but for whatever reason he's this is something he struggles with as a person I know we've struggled with. This is the ability to address difficult. Fickle painful feelings that are tied to your career as an entertainer which sometimes means walking away from it which means ending it. Listen to what Rupaul said on the Vanity Fair article. He said that I am helpless. There's nothing I can do to make people all happy when it comes to the issue of excluding Trans Women from our show. We'll make people happy and I'm like yes you could say we're these. These are new contestants and some of them are Trans Women. Some of them are cisgenders. Mar Heterosexual Men Dracula's. Doing it camp warnicke. Doing you can choose to. I feel like I mean interweave. He's right by saying that because because he's not gonNa say the one thing that will make everybody happy which would just be like. Oh yeah sure yeah I could. Yeah why wouldn't they included. You know what I mean but the thing is it's crazy. It's a drag race celebrity edition and you know it's it's not all going to be gendered straight man on that show or game or gay man is not only Neil Patrick Harris Harris Ariza's too busy to be Paul's projects. Let me put it that way but We certainly husband be available. You know kind of uh-huh we call this the the judges on re Paul's drag race that have all the time in the world to hang out in the world of wonder studios for an entire day while they slowly felt because people don't realize that. Fill me those shows takes a lot of time and the extremely boring chair. And it's not like Whoo Whizbang. Let's get the next this contestant on the set the cameras then the person comes out they set the cameras again filming. Everything is boring. It's time consuming and you know when we're so used. I used to watching something at home and being entertaining than the the brutal reality is if you dream of being a star of being an entertainer and you're not aware of what the work involved. It's a lot it's A. It's a huge. It's like learning. There's no Santa Claus it's it's funny 'cause like I just feel like you know go to therapy Sobhraj but like I feel like that's like a huge thing is like self care you got to figure out how to like separate yourself completely from it but while you're on the way I think that a lot of people really successful people which is probably like why I mean are no make it because like I really really dig self care like Blake into account like I. I make sure to be that bullet. People don't separate it out and it's like constant you know what I mean. Constantly possibly work constantly work currently. I'm GonNa give you two choices. A or B Okay and they're like fortune cookies in my hand. I I just like blind link one and that will be the truth for you. Okay which is the B. B.? You're exactly where you need need to be right now. I think that's true. I love like Arrow a was yeah. Let's say now is the time to take action and pursue your drains. I like both of those are taking thank you so much. I'm taking both light every time. That approach is those two ideas are not mutually exclusive. Who can you've already been successful in other people's eyes you Ara star? You're an entertainer your celebrity. You're inviting to be seen but Just understand that no matter how much money and no matter how big your twitter followers gut. You're still going to be struggling totally. It's an interesting because like you watch all these these people you know a lot of people get under fire for a lot of stuff and just being that big and having everyone's eyes on you constantly it's gotTa be a fucking nightmare and then all of your weird personal issues because everybody's kind of working through whatever whatever it is. They're working through it. Like like Rupaul is obviously got some prejudice that that he can't let go of any has any like easier working through it or he's now working through like everybody knows about it now. It's a pretty avid. You know what I mean. Everybody's just like working through all that well in a video interview that he did. He said the ones that he's not afraid of anything but the one thing that scares them the most is ignorant people who act like they know everything. Sure and I would say that's projection. Yeah Yeah I mean right because people are looking to him for answers like flag like answers eventually before the podcast. Eventually they will have a trans person on on the show and he will say I've always wanted one on the show but the world wasn't ready chest and that's just the way it fucking goes right like everybody. I feel like no one's perfect affect everybody sucks a little bit. And that's that's our work is like doing the thing that like makes us a little bit less but once you get like once. You're like hyped up to that level well as you haven't done as much work. Maybe you could see your the field that you want to suck last. I'm on the field. I want to suck more you. Yeah I was just kidding of We're always open to comments on the website. The shit out we can take it because it is to find out like I noticed that like when I contact me. Oh My Internet service provider rider or get customer service for a product. I bought we get an email saying how did we do. And I was thought about that. It's like does the corporation ration- that sends me the email asking me for feedback. Really like listen to it or they just asking me to express my feelings in private email so go on twitter and say you know. Hewitt Packard sucks psychological manipulation. Man I'm going to send everybody after we do this. You just let me know oh who they are. And I'm going to send like a mass email. Just let me know. If you think I've been an apologist this whole you just let me know here and now and then ever speak of it again again. My service sharp fights Kathy Griffin. Get into trouble because she she would sort of put people on blast in Korea persona all of her career like being is like getting in trouble getting eating at ten oppressor being in trouble and then like and then like figuring out how to get in trouble again is what I feel like. And she's brilliant at it. It's funny well I think especially we you know. Cutting the head off trump. That thing was sold to loan out of I was so mad about that. 'cause like fuck you. There was great thing knew how big you go with kind of blow up in some ways. But what's the brilliant thing about. It was so smart is because she really made it seem as over career absolutely tanked and then she was untie and and so she was able to buy everything that she'd ever produced like my life on the deal with all those things like that rock bottom rightfully so she bought it all back and then she went on a tour sold out. Tours was a comedian nowadays. Those tours where you make money yes and so now. She owns all her shit. I love money from the tour. I mean like no dummy she I in honestly regardless of like what I think thought about like her. I think she's great but like even if I didn't I think that that particular like saying was it made me so upset because so many the people of my friends who got gone under fire and gotten so much blast from criticizing trump in any way and I need like political all platform and it's like all of these H.. Just it's scary. It sucks and it shows like what a weird precarious place like were in as a country. And it's it's just really weird to think though a Russian took a male comedian. Did that the the backlash would be anything new. How no not at all that? I've known who's gotten like really really really fucked with has either been non binary or definitely a woman and and like been I don't know I just I just feel like it's it's really a it's scary and it sucks and I think you should be able to criticize you criticize. But part of it is like you know that that quote them Madonna Stars starts her concert tour. Recently with is that artist's job is to tell the truth telling the truth you're going to be attacked in. Yeah it's to tell their truth. Whatever they've decided eh at that particular moment and like of course that Peop- people are GonNa are gonNA attack you for it but like it's the level of attack the there's is being criticized for stuff and then there's getting death threats and like actually like needing select go into seclusion or something or like being being endanger injure out of your home? I'm going to move out of your home like having to you know. Protect yourself in any sort of a real way being like trolled online in in a way where it's like death threats constantly waking up to that might go to bed to that. I think that that is. That's that's that's not criticism that's like scary. And that's it's upsetting and that should be illegal you know I don't know that's what I think Miley Cyrus. She kind of gets into hot water for borrowing being images and ideas from instagram to post content on her own instagram. That has nothing to do with her. Mere people straight up st approach. It all the time when it's so far too because the p the stuff of this deal is like it's very like new feminist feminist art. The instagram art these artists who a are doing art. Okay but they're doing art gets gets criticized a lot for like being not are like not fine arts or whatever or like not. What was the cake that? So there's there's a posting feminist right messages on cake so there's this feminist cake lady forgot what it's called. I think it's called like feminists cakes cake feminist avenue. So she's but she does okay as a pastry doesn't patriots okay. who honestly was not very good the cleanliness but the sweet? Feminism she posts these like cakes and honestly they're not. It's not like amazing pastry making. Okay it's just like basis it's a basic cake and then you put on it like we like women rule or whatever whatever you do and and she did this one that was is just like some of the statements. She writes on cakes. Kansas like an I with the cakes that beautiful sugar her sugar spice. And you're under no obligation to be nice takeout. Good sex is a good enough reason. Okay sure cake is sweet. But I'm I am not so it's like this bumper sticker. Take thing but it's not like particularly gorgeous. It's not you know what I mean. You're seeing them. It's pretty basic stuff. It looks like something the thing that's one cook dinner living room or whatever you know and so the cake was made with rage not love want to it should be criminalized. Sex work smashed the Patriarchy rats. Very Standard man stepped the fuck up. Yes another cake about abortion. CERNAN impeach him. But it's not just about him. Okay perfect all of that stuff where everybody can get behind it and be like absolutely cake or whatever everybody everybody loves cake and the People Go. Oh you're angers valid. Yea So miley took one of these cake images at. Yeah so it's pretty basic cake ship but it's like this is the lady who's doing it and she's doing it this way and misses her cake. Okay and is there her bumper sticker statement. That people will like snapchat hat. Okay fine so miley Cyrus is like our team sees like these cakes and then just fucking steals the whole Goddamn cake like words this woman all the well they saw cake and then they just made it themselves and put it in their video but unlike all the lettering is exactly the same where it's like kind of not great. And then they like underlined in and like exactly the same way leader Stolis poor ladies cake and Mrs Obviously the art that she does voice is healthcare. Abortion is healthcare very nice bumper sticker. Name Becca Real Holloway. Sweet feminist the sweet feminist. Becker is doing great work I and so she. She responded to the case then she was just like you know this. This is absolutely ridiculous. Miley Cyrus. You know you're taking my cake stuff our stuff and she got in hot water and I think we maybe miley cyrus apologize. I'm not sure but then in another video that was like right after the cake one. I think Miley Cyrus was was Did another one where this lady who who had like fucks fruit or like well if she like has like refrigerators fingers she sexualize. This is all of all fruit and sometimes butter nuts washes and like she'll like expansion opened the vegetables. She she opened a basketball. Yeah she she's done any meat it's mostly like put like honey inside of a peach and then she'll just like finger fuck it until it comes. The honey it's very hot but like also also it's her art and she does. This are two one could say the. There's a lot of questions about whether it's art or not but if you watch it like it's like hot Tinari me and like so. She's doing something and she's like incited. Get emotion whatever if she intends for it to be art it is consumed and seen as are. Some people might see that. It's because because of a topic or imagery they might not. They might not associated with art vulgar. I think that most people dismiss it. Don't don't earn dismissing it. Because they think it's vulgar. I think they're just missing it because this one lady. Okay I wanNA see this it. Listen I WANNA say this I want to say I don't. I think that this lady is doing art. Okay I think this lady is doing are but one of the funniest his comments because also Miami sailors stole her by like fucking fruit and we're video. Whatever same idea figuring a melon okay it look it up but this baby like was just like by Cyrus is stealing from artists who don't have the same platform as her and not giving us any credit and bullshit and she was making very code in points underneath it? A lot of people were like. Yeah Fuck Majlis Ariza underneath that this one lady was like girl. You fuck fruit. Ah But I'm not saying that she's right. I just think that that was pretty good. My friend told me about this porn. Once and it was this one woman she was took corncob and she was using it as a Dildo. Although and then all of a sudden popcorn started a period. I love that I want to see that. I don't tell Miley she's GonNa Steal but but like Reno Majlis team just like religious nabs Shit and like doesn't give they just cultural but like drag queens can do it because the dragline gleaned don't have the five billion people following them do now that you act like they're you know the most Marjolein th person on the planet. Well they are a show. Let's be produced by MTV but like they're popular marginalized they we are. And that's what we're looking at here right. It's this weird. Transformation that happens when margins person gets into a position of power our. Yeah and how. They don't know what to do with that catches the car. The car barks after. What do I do with this car? Dr and Madonna you know is somebody who's throughout her career has been a been accused and being a full weapon but okay just watch body body of evidence which which we lawyers were the entire time being like this sexy woman must be also considered a gun or a knife because she used her sexiness in the justice the same way and everybody was like absolutely. Ah You had a friend of your mother's who got really mad at Madonna one time. Wait what this is in the early nineties and it was. It was not a friend of mine. Mothers who is an older woman she must have been sixty some years old and I was in my twenties and so as she was just somebody mentioned Madonna and she got so. Oh Mad. Like shoes I got enraged by Madonna. She's like that woman will do anything for money. She would take money stuff a stick up her twats. It's set it on fire if she could make more money and I was just like I never see this woman react like that and I don't think I've ever heard a sixty year old woman. Say The word Twat. Ah Yeah. That's amazing it was just like kind of like a newfound respect for Madonna that she can incite such anger so funny too because has like probably a Madonna didn't do alike as much as like every other star has been forced to do because she was so loud. Oude you know what I mean. Probably she like got out of doing like stuff because she was like proud and loud and like wasn't going to take bullshit and like do whatever that woman said is like this unfortunate truth for like people like Marilyn Monroe and like other like me and where it's like A. Yeah they I guess you could say they would do anything for till like just survive. I guess I hear Eerie saying is that Madonna was empowering herself whereas these other people were victims of other people's power. Yeah absolutely like a lot of people have done a lot of stuff to make a bag egg. And that's just the reality of having like straight men in charge of everything theorized interviews. Somebody's shared with me with an interview with Jayne Mansfield. Not Drag Dr King. James Van Field from ruth drags but the originally. Yeah and she's like talking about being an actress. She's she met with this guy she's just like yeah and then he just you know he dyed my hair and the pushed show me and that's who I am now. Yeah there was this. Oh my God. I'm just remembering. who was the Bette Midler? Yeah like a little while ago. She was talking about how someone raped her but she doesn't consider it rape because like no one over fifty considers when they were raped aped rape as like a woman or whatever but he was like. Yeah I was at this party was like young and everybody did toilets anyway. This guy like shoved quayle lewd foods in my mouth and then I woke up and came to and he had just fucked me in the bathroom. She just said that story like that. That staff staff and that's like the the reality of like when's the different time. It's a different time right now. And then it was like even eighties. So Madonna has been sued a lot plot this past year or late Ohio. Good beat as late as you. I want her to fuck and I want people to push out her bed onto the bank and then just slowly Dara our little bit. Just be like like you know. I'm just here. I really liked this trend. I think it's a very healthy for us. As a nation as human beings to talk about our feelings. Thanks very Mr Rogers. Mister Rogers is hot right now with the new movie. Won't you be my neighbor. I really WANNA see that. I haven't seen it. It's really really wonderful. Film definitely check it out. It's not as terrible as frozen to. Oh my God I do not want to see that all the all the ads that are so dumb. There's ridiculous frozen to the search for more money. Yeah scrambled math. And there's no lesbian action. That have you seen the Promo. Oh four it. They like make kristen bell like dress up in this dumb ass outfit like bought from K.. Mart of her character like they don't even like spring it and then they just you keep making her process not real and then they were just like making her like run across busy streets. She kept saying Oh my God we almost got hit. That was like like like fuck is happening by dump truck full of money. It was insane anyway frozen to bullshits like they took all the the story elements from the first movie scrambled and every celebrity actor. You know who said Okay I'll do the sequel but let you gotTa give them at least two songs. Yeah and so. There's just a unnecessary song after unnecessary song and they were also made to sing a lot like in that you have to I winter. Send this to you. It's the most in fainting or seen the Mako get celebrity. Like this is Christine Beleza millionaire. What does she do? She's like Ena K.. Mart are you kidding. Like a like a really shitty shitty rich like where or Amazon. Oh my God so so you know. Don't don't wait for Toco on Disney plus but in terms of you know won't you won't should be my neighbor or it's beautiful in the neighborhood I think that's the dock the documentary but the films but the the new one. That's out in theaters is based on the journalists story of of meeting and working with Mr Rogers is beautiful story. I think as it is an Oscar because he thought this guy's fallish is is you know this is just a persona and then he discovered like who the real Mr Rogers was and it really. It said it changed his life he was because he was carrying so much anger inside of of him he was just like you know what I can be a better person in the I can accept the better person in other people as well. where's my Mr Rogers? I got a lot of. They look like a like a nice quiet man to come into your house and tell people it's like you have to be. We don't have Mr Rogers anymore more. 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Because now now the new lawsuit by Casey spooner of Fisher spooner who actually went to art school at this guy actually rally together in a semester in a sound art classes to really say okay would seem like a very wealthy very well at the top of the lawsuit He. He's been dead what his financial situation was but he did not go to Class A lot and he would present a lot a lot of work that was very a tonal in- crazy and chaotic chair. And everyone's like they went on to have a career and he had amazing career because because he I mean I think that emerged album is an amazing album. And he's an amazing musician and deserving of success that he's had a when I knew him he he was definitely struggling to find his voice experimenting and he's always welcome to come on the podcast. Facing here that Madonna law he I s right now. He was collaborating with another musician. Who worked with Madonna on the song? God control the one where Madonna got shot on the dance floor and the video radio. And he's claiming that he helped he created that song and it got stolen from him and Madonna is now making a lot of money from it. So he's saying he worked with race DOT official. That's the instagram handle for this person and that person worked with Madonna's people and Madonna's people are saying we had no idea you were involved in awe. Aw here's a certain amount of money you know us. Some percentage of the sales and he's like well. That's not enough money you know. This is the song opens up Madam X Tour and you're saying presented who is the sales will you know nobody's making money off of sales of music anymore even Madonna. So that's not really helping me so I want more money. I want a percentage of the tour from talking to especially if you open with my saw I think give it to him. I don't know like she's got a bunch of money can give them the schools in Malawi. Come cheap feeling no honey. I feel like it's like you have a bunch of money house comedy kids on a half now. Have you seen a whole lot of five. Children are a lot of kids. Yeah she yoga. He's got the two she birthed and then she's had three she adopted in the beginning and I feel like she got two more David mercy and then she's got a couple of little tiny ones and Mary weather and Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah and also and also as many spices. She has in the kitchen and she just needed a name. All of her. Maybe is in order to Merick Esther. Yes sir the youngest in the shower door like Judy Garland with children. Really wonderful like better. Better don't love their mother Madonna for all her failures. Ears are struggles. She is not failing as a mother. That's great and That she had some regrets though when she was on stage in madame x concert. Three that's apparent- yeah especially with Rocco more than anything. I think Rocco really doesn't really care for his mom. I can tell you something you can mess up a lot of ways as a parent but if you spend time with their kids it's going to workout. Yeah spend time with their kids face to face. That's the only thing you can do. You can struggle financially. You can feed your kids breadcrumbs and cardboard. You can do a lot of mistakes but as long as you both. They're in the room to talk about your feelings. It's GonNa work out right if you'RE GONNA present way like people like every every kid but if it's from it there's tons of studies on it like there's you know it's just. It's having having the person that that makes you feel safe. Make make be present and feel of that feeling of safety. You know you're gonNA see a rotten person than give your kid up get out of there get out of there. Yeah crime if you are not ready to be a parent. Give your kid up for adoption for sure. I I used to when I was young. 'cause like I have a lot of like issues. The my mom she bought. My mom has a BP borderline personality disorder And so it wasn't treated very well because of the eighties overall. Nobody knew about what that was and and misdiagnosis it a bunch and so she like was. It was rough growing up with her but like most. I used to have this thing where I was just like. There should be a test or something like you would have failed for sure. There should be like a test like yeah like a mom test test and then they don't let you out they don't let you out. What the cab if you failed the test but now that I'm older I know that is maybe also right? Just as phenomena that observed that win the marginalized person gets their works stolen by a more powerful bullimore visible wealthier entity or corporation or celebrity. That usually the public bashes the person who got their stuff stolen in a similar dynamic that like sexual abuse blames the Victim Sheriff or or any kind of victim when someone gets assaulted. Unusually the instinct of people said. What were you doing that? Gotcha assaulted what were you doing at. This terrible thing happened to you right. I think I don't know I never. I think that I always think that it's the I was thinking that it's the richest persons fault because I'm like well. Obviously the the rich person did it. Of course they did. But I guess that there's there's like is he getting now. All Madonna's fans are bashing Casey spooner rally. Just greedy. You just ask you for money. And I'm like well. He did write the song. So why can Madonna just credit him with a song. The songs GonNa make money. It is big business. Big Corporation share some of the wealth. Yeah Yeah and he and he can prove that he created this or whatever yeah so best of luck to we support artists in two thousand eight talk about a ten year transformation. I came up with a flag. Call the Cougar Pride flag. That's so crazy. Yeah okay which then. In two thousand ten Dan almost a decade later of a blog stole the Pixel for Pixel almost from this lesbian life blog and proposed it the lipstick lesbian pride flag and it caught wind. And now when you go to pride events all over the world you can see my design as lipstick. Lesbian prideful bride flight modest. The white flat with the White Stripe moved to the middle. Starting exact same exactly. Yes where'd you get those lips. I I got off of a free stock art. Okay okay so if you sign on top of each other it is pixel for Pixel. She didn't she didn't lay it out. She just moved the colors and so as a consequence of this. You know I said it's it's when I post things on the Internet there is a it would be nice to be credited or it'd be nice to be paid. You know neither Natalie or myself. Make any money from that design right but I would like for all lipstick lesbians in the world to embrace trans women as part of their feminism. Totally Trans Women are women. Don't be a turf. Unlike the girls and frozen is that what he did an article that said that she was gonna come out as lesbian but also as a trans exclusionary radical. Our people were like. She's going to be like last week just going to be a lesbian. She's not there yet. Some lesbian implications a lot of validating and frozen rose into Elliott was moaning yearning those calling. There's a saw amount. There's a wiser. That's an allegory. For coming out so there was like dollars dollars moaning and singing. And she's fallen voices long cavern which I think symbolizes of a share. You know kind of thing so but then of course you also have. Chris was a Christian guy. Christopher Christopher Chris the kid has a I think one of the one of the guys from up north has a little thing for him. Because you're ooh I feel a little spark. Everyone in every Disney movie is gay. There's no there's zero there is like all the the inanimate objects objects that they're all gay gay beginning of sleeping beauty. They show a little young Prince Philip and he looks at the sleeping beauty in the crib. especially she's sleeping and goes not marrying her great seeing that everyone's forgotten about my God the wife they they don't name sleeping beauty's mother ever in the movie King Stefan and his wife. Yes I mean she's just a woman. So why would they do that but basically basically sleeping beauty the illustrators just drew her a little bit older extreme say everyone is gay like in all of the. I don't care who kisses who everyone is gay in all of the Disney films from the second that they were made up until now they're all gay and before they. I used to be really problematic and racist. It is like the early Disney films. And we're using the free trial to watch Disney plus or trying to squeeze squeezed as many of these classic movies into our repertoire and Disney and it's early days in its golden era really captured the mind of a child. I did flashback. My mom used to okay. Man Like decided when I was very young that I was into Betty boop which like no one is no no no small child is betty boop crazy. I mean I really liked that. But like Betty boop herself self is just like a like a big headed like slut. She's asking American villa. She she is like Oh really i. Didn't we know that will appropriate fully make sense because she's always wearing the garter belts and doing all this brainwave address me like her and they still like Betty boop look all over my walls is and I was just like. I don't even really like this. I loved the GRANDPA. The GRANDPA was cool. Do you remember so anyway but with with Disney early films. It's like they've somehow and up until like you know with Little Mermaid and beauty and the beast up when they started doing tangled angled and frozen and all these kind of CGI movies they. It seems like Hollywood now is instead of making films it's making CGI a Movies where computer generated graphics whether it's Star Wars or frozen or anything else. It's all about the technical marvel of creating computer generated graphic storytelling and music and writing and the human experience and feelings take a not even their second-place they're like low on the list gross. It's like any time there's like special effects that's like this is like yeah yeah that's like the CGI bullshit they just cut out. They cut it into like some unrecognizable bullshit. Minutes just like weird car a smashing those tiny people. That obviously aren't real and it's like we're supposed to be into that but it doesn't even look real. It's just stupid. I Dunno I have like stopped watching like I. Don't watch Camara Tar. If you took all the away from Avatar it'd be a lame version of Pocahontas and isn't that the most popular that's like the most popular like like like. It's like the most grossed film society. We're relieved dazzled by the CGI Marvel and once I think we sort of grow up then go past it. We'll get back to storytelling. Yeah Yeah I I. Don't I never think it looks good enough to like justify all the money in all the stuff here amiens. I'm a graphic designer and I love to see you know beautiful images and technical wizardry but I'm also a storyteller and I love a good story. Yeah Yeah I just think that the the CGI that look that's meant to look real and has that but then the technology isn't there enough and then it just has that weird uncanny uncanny valley effect like you know what I mean. We're it's kind of like I don't know I guess. The title of that car smashed to that guy sort of now. It's getting better but I remember when it first started. I was like this sucks. This isn't like fun to see. You know what I mean Corley Ballerini. It's a pleasure talking to you. You're such a lovely humphry spirit. Having me people can follow you on social media. Where Yeah so you can follow me on Youtube Youtube if you want to? I just started this so I've done a lot of therapy and so like I started this this this little therapy. It's hard to imagine. Ah But I. I don't know if this is going to translate well. It's honestly this little video that I did. And I'M GONNA do a series of them but it's just all different different kinds of therapy and I kind of like parody like this is like. It's like ten therapies done terribly off and it's just kind of taken off a little bit so I'm going to you like a bunch because I'm taking requests but it's basically all therapists. They're like I am friends with now like so many therapists like in New Zealand. Actually like are you as a therapist or you. Are you the victim. And you have these therapists. Come in and try and I'm the therapist. I'm doing therapy to the camera. Ah But it's like very specific therapies. Do CBD I do. I do considerable cvt. cvt sorry behavioral therapy. I do dialectic behavioral therapy. I do internal family systems. Therapy Eh. Psychiatry do a bunch of room for Evan. That's like like more more of like a broad thing. I like these specific ones. And so what Ralph being no. So you're parenting the way. See that these therapies can be misused. Yeah so I'm just doing a series on youtube channel. You don't know you're on channel. I just started. I only free videos Ballerini. Just look away. Nobody has the name. It's like Baylor Carl Ballerini graceful Ballerina Right. Yeah it's like more than one ballerina also on twitter. What does your whole family dance? No no no. They're just like our no catala whatever the their they do a lot of stuff. They're like they're like Baker's dress makers and Che talion chat so you can Carly Ballerini comedy and twitter twitter and Youtube at the ones that I'm trying to make because we live in a time period we're marginalized people get their stuff eventually stolen by large. Let's corporations make me that people start feeling all of my shifts. I would love it. Does make ideas worth stealing ideas that by when someone steals that it transforms the world into a better place awesome like Jane. Voyager gets a simulated war. Understand what you're saying but I love the CAP. The female captain of the spaceship I ship gets taken in by these heartless totality fascist cybernetic robots and they absorbed her DNA but but in her DNA. There was code that would assure their their destruction I say an idea can distort can create it can transform and and so when someone steals your idea it becomes a part of them so make ideas were stealing make Ideas that are full compassion creativity and love. I love that. I was just listening to this thing about this guy who he does. I don't know if you guys have to go out. It's a shorter so that he does he does he. He makes drum sounds and at first he was like making this whole kit and he didn't know whether or not to sell it because he was like afraid that everybody was going to start sounding exactly like him and then he started selling it and like everybody. Everybody just was making this like gorgeous mart now. Everybody does that and it was like this nice story but it is basically the same thing. Anyway Yeah we can make make more are. You're going to be in a better place. Yeah really food. Yeah so people are showing these at their at their therapy therapy tutorial meetings. I've been getting a lot of messages. So if you would like to steal my thing and then just share it with a bunch of therapists go right ahead. I should do a comedy act one of those therapists conventions I like showing my video Sarah Converge Repairing you for that. Yeah there should be paying more Madonna's lawyer I'm not taking. Please follow me on twitter and also going to be releasing a bunch of so now that I look forward to the Carly Bellerini Yup. That's me your therapist. Friend is dealing with issues yourself. Yeah Yeah yeah absolutely. I mean we're all our L.. Forgive elwyn forgive Rupaul for George Forgive Madonna. None of them has done anything that bad that I know of. Maybe they have. Maybe they've killed someone but like we don't now apologists for a George W Bush's pretty bad but you worry the bad. He has awarded almost workman. But like that's fine. Okay you gotTa Talk to people that you disagree with even people who are responsible for Mass mass killings willing to talk to everybody but they also have to undo the damage. They've done yeah. I don't think he's doing I think he's just painting. So it's a different Allie. He's doing maybe Miley Cyrus. Still some of his paintings L.. Maybe the I don't know w Bush you should. We should start a campaign on your. Yeah I WANNA start a campaign. Can we campaign miley steal from Bush. She already there's a little bit of that Ama I'm saying wasn't able to keep that man. He was so far I would have done Anthony Cumia my bed late what happens. They got divorced when two months ago for things over to you knew that he wasn't GonNa last long though this second he was like he like one away one time then she got him back then she was kind of she had like a crazy and Kris. Which one would it be? I Ah I don't even know I don't I more okay more attractive. Yeah I'm I'm real unafraid. Women's yeah it can.

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Is Kanye West Helping People with Bipolar Disorder?

A Bipolar, a Schizophrenic, and a Podcast

25:26 min | 1 year ago

Is Kanye West Helping People with Bipolar Disorder?

"In. For reasons that utterly escape everyone involved. You're listening to a BI polar schizophrenic, Anna podcast they're your hosts gave Howard and Michelle hammered. Welcome to this episode of bipolar schizophrenic and podcast, I'm Gabe bipolar, and I'm schizophrenic, I'm shell, and I am not as loud as Gabe apparently. That's, that's unusual, unusual. I'm usually the loudest person. But I think you just one, whatever that was let's talk about loud, mentally ill people that maybe shouldn't be as loud as they are. Why who would you be talking about? Gabe. I can't possibly think of someone. That's a bit loud in the mental health field. That makes it on all of the news, just kind of ruins it a little bit for all of us. I'd say it's really sad because he's got a platform. I mean whenever he talks about living with bipolar disorder. The media immediately reports it, and as a guy who won lives with bipolar disorder and to wants to talk about living with bipolar. Order and three can't get the media to report shit. There's this massive anger and jealousy that comes from what he chooses to say. Do you think people have figured out, who were talking about, you know, it depends on if they have net flicks or nights? And if they know who the fuck David Letterman is we're talking about Mr. Khan, west and Kanye west, we've talked about, on the show before when we've talked about celebrities, but he has a new interview with David Letterman on. What's it called this next guest needs? No introduction. Yeah. And he talks about a lot of things not throw away the entire interview. First off of you fan of Kanye west of your fan of his music is creative, pursuits endeavors. They spend the majority of the time talking about that. But of course, there's the section where they talk about when he discusses mental health and medication. And when he discusses living with bipolar. Let one specific part really got to me, one part was good. Is that he wasn't putting down people taking meds, but the reason that he doesn't take any meds? One of the main reasons was because they made him fat. The second reason he doesn't like taking meds is because it stifles his creativity. And that was a huge reason about why I didn't wanna take men's when I was younger when I was around eighteen or nineteen starting meds in college, I would say that, I'm taking these meds, and I was an art major and it was ruining my artwork. I couldn't do my artwork anymore because of the meds or I couldn't play lacrosse good anymore because of the meds, I would come up with all these excuses, and I would blame medication and say, I'm just gonna not take my medication more. It's ruining everything you know, what really stifles creativity and ruins everything, dying by suicide true. Like that really just stifles just pretty much life. This is why these conversations always sort of irritate me. Nobody is taking medication. Because they're not really sick. The people who are being prescribed medications for mental illness. Their quality of life is in the toilet man, just kind of irritates me, because everybody thinks that people who are taking psychiatric medications are just like they're perfectly fine. They just have like, maybe little issues here and there. No people who are being prescribed psychiatric medications are really sick. They have suicide attempts, cutting. They have homelessness in zero cases of violence or attacks against others. You were hallucinating and you're so paranoid that you thought your mother was trying to kill you. But what you were worried about was that your creativity was going to be stifled it. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It's almost like you weren't thinking. Was wasn't a rich person right now. What if he was poor? What if he was homeless, it's interesting because let's not pick on Konya west the whole time. David Letterman said something that I thought was really, really interesting. He said that for a long time, he David Letterman didn't take any medication or help for his mental illness. But that he was so angry and paranoid and frustrated that he used a rip phones off the wall and throw them against other walls, and it would take two or three days to calm down from these angry outbursts, and that he did this at work for ten years before realizing that he needed medication. Now Machel as somebody who's been fired from eleven jobs, eight eight jobs. How many of those jobs, did you rip something off the wall and throw it against the wall in front of your coworkers zero? Okay. And you still couldn't keep a job because of your schizophrenia. Yes. But apparently this guy could keep his job in. Spite of being, I don't know what crazy. I don't say that lightly. It's just he was so sick and so angry and so- symptomatic. He was putting other people in danger and his workplace covered for him. He was David Letterman. Right. He was saying that he got this far at this point in his life not being on meds. Why does he need meds? Now it's going to change who he is. And then he said that after doing all that his doctor finally said, can you just try them now please? And then when he took them, it was a whole new way of life. It was like wearing new glasses. And this was, frankly, an elite figure talking somebody who's famous on television, wealthy has a lot of resources, and he now sees the benefit of getting the proper treatment for mental illness, and the rest of us. We don't we don't have that kind of cord I don't think that I could throw a phone at you Michelle and keep our podcast, let alone doing this so often for a decade that. The doctor has found out about it was like, I don't know. David, I don't think you should throw phones that people anymore. Maybe you should just try it. Could you imagine having that the rest of us would go to jail? You know, it's really funny. Everybody knows that Naomi Campbell through a phone at her assistant. And nobody knows that David Letterman used Rippe phones out of the wall, and throw them at people are whatever like that. Come on men verse women come on. That's what I'm turning this into a winning says, I thought that makes sexist. I thought this podcast was about how we were angry at people for spreading misinformation about psychiatric medications. We now have to discuss misogyny to always is massage, and he gave you always hear about the difficult women. You never hear about the difficult men. You're right, for example, when we heard about it from Naomi Campbell, we just thought that she was a bitch. We thought that she was mean and angry. But when we heard about it from David Letterman, we thought he was sick. So this is just another reason why this medication conversation really needs to be more nuanced and more understood because a magic. Naomi Campbell needed medication, but her doctor wouldn't sit her down and discuss it because a doctor is not going to tell you. You're a bitch, but a doctor did tell a man that he was mentally ill. So it could have been that much longer before Naomi Campbell got the help that she needed because she wasn't looked at a symptomatic. She was looked at is evil and unhinged in well, female, well, do even the Naomi Campbell doesn't mentioned on this. I honestly don't know. But I guarantee that her doctors aren't talking to her about it. We've all just rolled are is that she's just some crazy person that throws phones at by crazy. I don't mean like mentally ill crazy. I just mean, like you know, just mean just the whatever, and that's just so sad because maybe she is symptomatic. I don't know if she has a mental illness or not. But, you know David Letterman through a phone, he's mentally ill. She threw a phone. Maybe she's mentally ill. Or maybe David Letterman's just an asshole that throws phones hell that we have to hear from our sponsor, this episode sponsor. By better. Help dot com, secure convenient and affordable. Online counseling all counsellors are licensed credited professionals anything you share is confidential schedule secure video, or phone sessions, plus chat, and text with your therapist, whenever you feel. It's needed a month of online therapy, often cost less than a single traditional face to face session. Go to better help dot com forward slash psych central and experienced seven days of free therapy to see if online counseling, right for you better help dot com forward slash psych central and we're back talking about bipolar in the media. You are right. We give men a lot of cover, and we're giving Connie a lot of cover because we think that he's brave for talking about living with mental illness so publicly, but, but let's dissect that message for a moment. His message is if you have bipolar disorder you don't wanna ruin your mind by taking medication. So therefore, don't take them now for a multimillionaire, platinum selling rapper. Maybe this is the best decision. But the majority of the people hearing his message are not famous multi platinum selling artists, and that's why it's dangerous to be saying these things and the other comment he said was that he didn't say this word for word, but he did make a mention that psych meds made him fat. And now he's letting people know that oh, psych Mets can make you fat. The thing is like can have a varying anything, kind of side effect, and you're not gonna know what the side effects are until you take them and see how they react to your body, and it can be annoying. But then you can also take another medicine that will fix that side effect. You have to try different things and just like I always say, there's a zillion different medications for a headache, just like there's a zillion different psych Mets, you have to figure out which one works for you. All of them have different kinds of side effects, some might be weight gain some might be weight loss. I feel like you said that like a couple of times. That I've said that I have repeated it over and over again because there's people out there like Konya west making statements that psych meds, make you fat. And if you're a young girl, growing up, like I was, and if I ever heard psych meds, make you fat, and I'm growing up in high school thinking, I have to be skinny skinny skinny skinny skinny. Oh, wait. I'm supposed to take a medication. Wait, they can make you fat. I'm not gonna take that it's gonna make me that and this is so scary because what does a sensually being said is you would rather be dead than fat because that's what you're risking. Mental illnesses serious bipolar disorder fifteen percent death rate. Schizophrenia fifteen percent death rate both by suicide so by not getting the correct treatment, you are raising your odds of dying by suicide. Unfortunately, people with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. We tend to get fat anyways, even when we're not on medication because we can't afford expensive foods. I mean, do you know a lot of like, for example, homeless schizophrenics who are? Eating. Well, you think we're eating lean meats and, and no, we're eating junk food and fatty foods that we can find. I think we just really need to understand that. There are worse things in the world then being fat. And maybe a sixteen year old doesn't understand that you always say sixteen year old girl, but they're sixteen year boys that don't understand that either look, nobody wants to get fat. We all agree. We all wanna be thin, healthy supermodels, and look fantastic. But in order to look fantastic. We have to be alive, and there's more to health than the number on the scale their trail. And I don't think being fan is really the worst side effect. There's many were set of Xia ever had occasion, before it's, it's awful explain Acuff Asia to our listeners Acas Asia. For me it came from taking a certain antidepressant, but it basically feels like you are jumping out of your skin. You can't stop moving. You can't stop talking you can't stop doing anything. It's so. So awful. It's just like there's things crawling inside of you. And you wanna rip your skin off? It's the most horrible feeling ever. I remember I was driving, and act Asia and I wanted to vomit because I was sitting still for so long. I just thought I was gonna puke from sitting still it's that awful, but isn't it okay? To have that feeling as long as you are pretty and thin. No. But why do people think that and I'm being serious? I'm not setting up. Anybody for a joke? It's we do have this tendency in our country in America to feel like how we look is the most important thing, and we don't care how we feel people on psychiatric medications. They're being treated for a reason they feel suicidal. They're hearing voices were hallucinating were depressed. We can't get off the couch. We can't hold down jobs. We can't sustain meaningful relationships. We don't find enjoyment in life and medication and therapy and cope. Gene skills and support groups all of those things combined to fix that. Listen, I would rather be fat and happy, then a very, very beautiful corpse or a very, very beautiful person who can't leave his house because he's just too terrified to panic. And that's true. But you know what I did when I explained my current Dr Alice while I taken them, an antidepressant like that before, and I got this feeling and that's when he told me what Acas Asia was like, oh, I had academia, and he goes, oh, if you're gonna Acas Asia, just take this medication with it. It'll go straight away. And I was like, what I just have to take another pill and Acas you won't be there. So I had to do it is another medication and your side of that goes away Todd. And that's not the only way, sometimes they can switch drugs like you use the example of anti-depressants. There's lots of anti-depressants and classes go together. So, for example, let's say that they prescribe antidepressant a and it causes academia, for example, they may say, look antidepressant, be is very close to a, so we're going to move you off of a and put you on b and see if that symptom clears up. And then when it does you can stay on anti-depressant be for very long time. I've been on some of my medications pushing almost two decades. Now, it took a long time to find the right combination. But once you find the right combination, it's just little tweaks here, and there it's kind of like how it takes you a long time to find that perfect dress, but it only takes you like five minutes to put it on. It takes a long time to find the perfect combination. But once you have the perfect combination then it's just a matter of accessorize. It. Exact gotta find exactly. And then when you find that perf. Combination. You you're just the best you can be. I don't know. That's how I feel I found the perfect combination. And I'm so happy, one of the things that, of course, we started off this conversation. Was it? Staples, my creativity. And of course, I go for the big one, you can't be creative, if you die by suicide, but let let's dial that back a little, you know, obviously suicide is the worst case scenario and it's the thing that I'm most afraid of in the world, but it's not necessarily the biggest not the only thing that stifles creativity, for example, if you're so depressed you can't get out of bed. How creative are you? If you can't leave your house, how creative, can you be because you can't be inspired by nature. If all of your friends aren't talking to you and your life is chaos and everybody's angry. What does that do to the creative process? And of course, if you can't support yourself you can't, you know, work or get food and you don't have a stable, living situation, or nowhere, your next meal is coming from what does that do to creativity? I love working with you, Michelle because you're kind of a little bit of a stereotype. In a way because you're mentally ill stone it. Uh-huh. And you're also an artist. Yes. Talk about how this journey was for you, because I know in the beginning, you were very worried about not being able to be an artist if you were on medication. And clearly you don't feel that way anymore. Well at the beginning really a lot of it was artwork. It was sports. It was talking to people I could not find the right meds for a very, very, very long time. And just everything a lot of it was with sports, like, if I had a bad day, I would blame it on my meds, like I did bad at practice. It's because my medicine, I'm never taking my medicine again. It makes me bad at sports or like if I was an art class. And I felt like I couldn't draw something right? It'd be like, oh, my medicine gives me bad ideas, now, just blaming just blaming blaming blaming everything or if I thought I was just having a bad conversation in some way or anything anything that I thought went wrong. I would blame my meds anything. Just aren't designed anything. I blamed the Mets on stuck in traffic is stupid thing. So I was just on and off and on and off and on and off until I finally just said, you know what I'm happier on Mets. I'm gonna take them and then I saw my life, get better. You know, I actually really saw my life, get better and other people's hurted, noticing that I was happier. I wasn't as moody may closest friends is kind of said like have you been taking your medicine like what's different with you? It was awesome. The most success that you've ever had as an artist. Yes, has come in the last three years. And during the last three years, you have been, I hate to say med compliant but yeah, he's been on the right. So before you were on medication you probably did have creative streaks like you said, you'd get anxious and you draw these very detailed drawings. But it's once you got stable and on the right medication that you were able to go to the next phase, which was to. Sell them and prepare them and market them. And now, people literally all over the world have seen your art if you were still unmedicated, do you think that you would have started your clothing line and published your prints, and things like that? Or would you still be sitting alone in your room being very creative, but nobody to see if I lose unmedicated, I'd be dead? Okay. But let's say that you weren't. It wasn't that. No, no. A wise thing. Yeah. I know if I if I was unmedicated I, I would not be here, like I would not at a podcast, I would not have a company I wouldn't have anything. I'd be living in my childhood bedroom being like, oh yeah I'm guess I have my sketchbook still with my martyrs and still drawing. All these drawings and not doing anything with them anymore. I mean, I would I would have never done anything. Just been doing nothing getting yelled, my mom to clean my room. That's always the message that I like to get out there. Bipolar mania it has this book relations. He said of ramping up ramp up saying this getting those Certa guy all exciting the universes flowing through me. It's amazing. And listen, maybe if you're a multi, platinum, multimillionaire famous artist this works, but I'm telling you for the rest of us for me. And for thousands of people that I've talked to with mania we feel like God is working through us. We feel like the universe. Has working through us. But when we look back at what we've actually accomplished the answer is nothing. We had a whole bunch of ideas. And we talked a lot, but nothing happened yet when you're west, you have the money to actually make things happen. And people are following you around and writing it down. I could understand why he can get all Mandic and everything like that because he has thousands of or millions of followers lots and lots of money. I understand why he gets like that. Like just all he has to do this think about all the money as think about all the influence, he has think about how he's married to Kim Kardashian and out who he is. And how famous he is if I had all of that. I be like, yeah, look at me. Look, who I am. I'm rich. I got all this. I could do whatever I want if I want to do it and I'm going to do what I wanna do right now. I'm gonna make a phone call to make it happen. Yeah. His creative as you want to be all you gotta do is name phone call. Okay. But it's not creativity voyeurism people are watching him because they're fascinated. And you brought up the Kardashians for the purposes of the next couple of minutes. We're not talking about mental illness. Nobody is mentally ill. You are a twenty two year old woman, and you call up Kim Kardashian and you say, Hello MS Kardashian. I need some advice for starting my career, and Kim Kardashian says, here's what you're going to want to do. You're gonna want to open a social media account and post pictures of your but you're going to want to go out all night, and be seen drunk in various bars. If you can have some friends that can get into fights and scandals with, you really want to create a lot of buzz around all of the things that are exciting about glamour, and makeup, and fashion, because all of this worked for Kim Kardashian and she's famous for it. And this is this is excellent, excellent ideas, if you're the Kardashians. But you really think that the average twenty two year old should really just be posting pictures of her. Yeah. But on social media. Is this a good idea for her? This is the weirdest comparising gave you just made the strangest comparison I'm not making a strange. I guess I'm just saying that what works for the Kardashians is not going to work for the average person even. I. Was people the Bush J fail? Miserably failed another good question nothing nothing happens to them. But for some reason, when Konya west gives out mental health advice, people are like I'm gonna follow that. That's a good idea. Isn't that a bad idea? Maybe we shouldn't get our mental health advice from famous, people just like we shouldn't get career advice from Kim Kardashian unless you wanna be a reality star. And then maybe but it's not it's not one size fits all and I do dislike how everybody is getting their advice on living with mental illness from famous people. Their lives are not the same as ours. For one thing, they have money resources, help and health insurance. A lot of people have mental illness, have none of those things where we consider ourselves lucky because wearing lucky because we have a supportive family, and because we're middle class, so if we're lucky for having a support a family and being middle-class, where's Konya west? We're lucky Gabe and Michelle are lucky. So he's just out of this fucking stratosphere, uniting is also interesting that he said, is that, you know, he's been my polar. You know, he's diagnoses only had it for two years. And I'm like, wait. You've been diagnosed two years ago. How long have you had it for know? He's, he's how to yeah. He thanked knows two years ago doesn't mean you've been bipolar for only two year. He's just skated by without a just everybody should just know that just because you've been diagnosed at a certain age doesn't mean you only had it since that certain age where we're kind of nearing the end of the show, and I think we've covered a lot of stuff again, Konya west as a rapper as a performer as an artist my hat's off to him. He is how talented amazing he is talented, incredibly talented. But I have to I just have to say as a mental health advocate, he is dangerous and misleading and one of the things that he said that, frankly, in my opinion was the most offensive thing that he said, is that he is the most famous bipolar there is. And the minute, he said that all I could think of was where the hell is Carrie Fisher when you need her like she is going to rise from the dead and say, excuse me, fuck you. I'm Princess, God, damn laya. I wrote a book about bipolar disorder. I advocated all over this country, and I gotta. Tell you most people over the age of fifty have no idea who Konya west is, they all know who carry Fischer is this is proved the dude is bipolar because thinking you're the most famous one is straight up delusional. I had loved what you just said. That was amazing. I love that. Thank you. 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Justin Bieber's Sexual Past, Noah Cyrus in Miley's Shadow & Naomi Campbell Suits Up for Safety  Daily Pop 05/19/2020

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Justin Bieber's Sexual Past, Noah Cyrus in Miley's Shadow & Naomi Campbell Suits Up for Safety Daily Pop 05/19/2020

"Welcome to daily pop. A we are starting with some personal. Tm is that has been working for show so we're going to get deep into it. You ready for that guys. Can't wait so Justin Bieber is talking. Regrets he says he wishes he had saved himself for marriage. Justin Haley opened up about their sex lives when a fan asked if there is anything they would change if they could go back in time. Listen to this six can be kind of a confusing. When you're doing when you just kind of just being sexually active anybody I would have probably save myself for marriage. We had different experiences with this. Jury's he's out of luck off mild that he goes. I don't think he's saying that just to say that. So that was on Bieber's on watch their series. Do you guys relate to what they're saying. I think that Justin Bieber has been on the road to self discovery for a very long time now and I think he's really starting to fall in love with the person that he's becoming I think he's really learned a lot about himself and I actually really like seeing this at him and I and I agree with you. Erin I don't think he's saying not to say it. I think he feels like he probably had a lot of meaningless sex along the way that probably makes him feel bad about himself and made him feel even more empty then went and did it so I can understand this. I mean I don't know if I necessarily I think ultimately as you grew up you can come you emotionally involved a little bit more. You understand your sexual escapades better. And there's things that you look back at your like have done that. I don't what I know now but I do think everything that you do makes you the person that you are today so I wouldn't regret it but you know it's good to look back. I actually agree with it because I think when you recognize all that time you spend your time you spent chasing. It actually works against you when you're trying to get in tune with your body and your mind and your spirit and have all these things aligned and he's gone through so much self assessment and he's trying to position himself to receive peace and love and meaning and wisdom and bright. I think that if I can go back and save myself marriage completely I would I would do what about you guys. I don think what Justin really should have said was. I haven't realized what real sex is until I met my wife. And then that gets out of everything and it's like wow there's a connection there secondly it's proven that he's other media because any going if they didn't say that today wife you obviously think that's the best person ever in the entire planet and you want to be with with river so have you said anything other than that. He would have a lot of explaining to do in a lot of talk. No no Aaron and I are right about this. I don't think he's saying that to get good points from her. I think he genuinely Zinc's God. I wasted so much time doing all of these things. That didn't really make me happy in the long run. I would've rather waited because todd. I think from his perspective now had he known he was going to end up with Lee. He looks back and thought I had such a beautiful beautiful wife. That you just that about the woman you're with but you can't have regrets and what you've done the past you can't have. I wish I didn't do any of that. Because if you hadn't had that self discovery until this point he might not have known that. Highly one hundred percent but he has to be very careful and you want to once again as a guy. Your sole purpose in lot is to make your partner happy you WanNa make them feel like a million dollars you want to feel like the my special girl in the world its mission. It always missions and he's just past one of the tests a boyfriend because agree. I feel like this relationship is so honest and so open that. He's not in here just telling her things that she wants to hear and she also doesn't want to hear all of the fluff. I think that while he's been going on this spiritual and faith journey. He's discovered that he's been losing part of his solo along the way and now that is completely fulfilled. He's like Dang. I could have been doing this away longer. Like I have been doing this from the beginning so I've not wasting time Meghan. Fox's spotted out with machine gun Kelly again over the weekend and sources tell us. Megan's gotten close with machine gun Kelly after working on a movie together and remember. There were rumors that her and her husband. Brian Austin Green they have. What's again split? Do you think they're more than just co stars or is Meghan moving onto fast honestly? One of my friends was to post a photo of a butterfly with quite. That's a code red. That means as close friends need to take that power away from them with their social media accounts. And just let it. That's all like let's say the here's the deal. They've broken up a few times. They've rekindled a few times. They had a baby the last time they made up I don't think we ever really know what's truly going on in the personal relationship between Megan Fox and Brian Austin Green. I think that this could be a moment of time. Where they're off and she's having some fun with Machine Gun Kelly. I could see them getting back together. I think Ryan's post about the butterfly in the flower and feeling smothers. Yeah little bit of a buzzkill. There didn't think that was probably the the the. What is it? The coolest thing he could have hosted I cool in over. That is like role best quotes. That's worse picture of a quite as lame as is what I really wanted to say but I just didn't. I wanted to be a little bit. Nicer. He's obviously hurting of course and that's a sign of that's why you need. Your friends succumb in change your password. I think you need like you honestly need an account. I best friend someone site close to you. Literally like power attorney that can flick a switch at any point and just go not. Yeah so do you think that. Brian's post is a that Michigan Kelly and Megan are thing because I think this is just a fling for them. I don't think this is a full blown relationship machine gun. Kelly has been bouncing from girl to girl like so rapidly that I think this this is just fun for them and also by the way is it show crazy to think I mean they did a movie together or maybe they are just friends. Yeah I think that that can just be the possibility there because just a month ago. He confirmed his relationship with this G. Model Summer Rae so I feel like they're just companionship. Onto Iras. She's getting emotional over what it's been like growing up in Miley shadow and our new song. The end of everything. Noah's things about her sister being sunshine while she was born to rain clouds blessed in her. During a recent edgy live no broke down saying the comparisons to Miley are quote absolutely unbearable and that. It's been too hard to overcome. What do you think considering? Like Noah do they stand a chance to rise up and be like their older sibling or actually see? No apply live when I was back in Australia. She's very different tamale. Sorry isn't just a pulp style is like a global phenomenon like this is very tricky and I think without her sister being that big star Noah until she produces music which can take over stadiums should use all the support she can from any family members so I feel like she's very blessed to be in that family. I think she's got the genetic make great music but I think she's there yet. Yeah I think it look. I think that's really hard to overcome. I think a lot of people that come from you know they have famous family members their parents or whatever and when you're somebody who's driven and talented in their own right but somebody else's done it so much bigger than you. I think it is a hindrance and I think it is hard to overcome that and I feel bad for no I feel like music. Obviously is her passion. She comes from a musical family as well. It's not just Miley Miley. Just happened to be born. I in her destiny was paved out. Became what it was so I can imagine that it's tricky for Noah and I think sad to say do I think that was going to have the exact same level of success as Miley. Probably not even goes I mean Solange and beyond saying that's an example so long is incredibly talented. I love her music. I love her sense of style. Is she ever going to be as big as beyond Sake No it's just? Unfortunately that's just sort of how the universe plays. It's hard sometimes but I do understand what Noah is saying. I have a younger sister and she also works in this business in although that she's not an on camera personality and I'm nowhere as famous. I am not. Pain is at all but my sister also likes to separate herself from being my younger sister. She doesn't tell that she's errands younger sister when she walks into the building. We just happen to have the same last name and we leave it like that. She just doesn't want any handouts. She wants to work hard. She doesn't want people to think that she got to where she is. Being my sister so I understand where Noah's coming from just the Brecqhou Tobacco you've done. Five hundred of the rundown arrive you famous. I love you guys Okay speaking of I love you guys who say I love you first in a relationship was what would you do if your neighbor? Ask You not to use your master bedroom. So they don't have to hear what goes on in there. We're GONNA be talking about all of that on daily pop next. You should arnold so that is Harry Styles. New Song Watermelon sugar of Watermelon. How feel about it honestly? I can't believe that this is a new song. I've been listening to the song for like weeks and months since the album came out. I love it. I Love Him. All about it love watermelon. It's not really an season. I randomly had to ask my mom today. 'cause I gotTA creating for it. It's wrong Valerie of quick. We Love Scott luxury to be the near it Rockstar. Like that is a that is just clevelander. Harry styles has been it for a minute. Everybody keeps stamping it with clips like this. This is a god anyone. He's just cooled. It's time for deer. Daily pop okay. All right if neighbor ask you not to use the master bedroom in your apartment because you share a wall. Would you do that because in the best position to advise for this one? Morgan which level your Malibu mansion is the most vocal quiet versa? Cousteau waves the waves are so loud. So that's been really troublesome that yeah he sent me up for that so I had to give us right now. I think if somebody if I lived in an apartment and somebody told me. Don't use your master bedroom because I can hear you having sex in it I would say go leap your whole self. I will do as I please in the apartment that I pay for. Thanks so much you know I thought of thought about this because at first I'm like yeah I would still use my master bedroom but if your neighbor was someone you know in my neighbor is someone I know and we do share that wall and she told me I can hear you. I would probably contemplate not using that bedroom that simmering. Why would you feel your performance? You think once you get here you Morgan. You've told them to go. F themselves would be thinking about that the next time you making love probably because I'm really an analytical human and think about things quite a lot so yup you're right so maybe five no one wins in the UAE. Lose lose figured him on this one a woman says her boyfriend is not happy that she doesn't want to shower with him. She says he gets to touchy feely and she wants to see who said are you on? I totally understand. I feel like if you're having a night with your man and things get a little frisky and you guys want to hop in the shower as fun totally understand how the night can go there if you're getting up in the morning. I don't want to shower with you. I just want to get into the shower closed. Door do my thing and have that fifteen minutes to myself. I don't WanNa Buddy. I learned all of my motor skills for reason like director Morgan. It's when you washing each other. It's one of those not like. Oh you wash wash cool. Let's get out of the shower. The waiting time for when a girl has to wash your hair put the first layer of whatever you put on. Put the second line or whatever you put on do more Siping other. How many layers and different things you have to do in the shower. It ruins the whole experience and I agree unless it copied. I think it's just not practical agreed. Maybe Koala and I would love to shower with you. So listen I guess my what. No not you guys. I'm just saying that's what you said. That's what you said to the art world registered movie show but I do not mind too busy shower so just saying all right. A woman says she told her boyfriend. I Love You. And he didn't say a back but not just once it happened a few more times and he didn't say anything then when he finally said. I Love You. They were cozied in the backseat date night. Would you be upset by this? If I love somebody and said I love them and they did not love me back or say it. I'd have a hard time with that guys I would not have. I would be okay saying it. I I have no problem being vocal and going for things but if I would also probably only say if the person I also felt loved the first site in a relationship I asked. I've been yeah I don't I don't really remember I mean I'm sure I don't have a specific memory but I would say it has three a mind and how nervously okay so I had never said it. I ever until the current relationship. I'm in and I really thought about it for a long time and I so badly wanted him to say at first and then I realized why am I waiting is that does that mean that. Our love is transactional. I can only say I love you. If I know this person loves me and then I came to terms with knowing that I love this person unconditionally regardless if he has to say back so it just kind of rolled off my tongue one day and I was like I I love you and it wasn't anything special. We were just on the couch and I was holding it in for so long and I did know that he felt the same way and he said it when he was a relief but it was a big risk and I literally could not stop myself from saying it. So that's how I knew. It was so genuine. Aaron Voice said at first and I'll get nervous when the two armies because you serve vulnerable less poisonous. It's a one way transaction. Once you said it you can't take it back and if they don't say it back you'll just feel crushed. I think you know when the times we like the needs to be a stepping would grow. It needs to be loved life coming together making a new overmach. Talk Out. Scott I love I like years old. You need to get in there ten Joe. I don't know what you're saying. It doesn't make any sense. I think that if you love somebody at falling in love with somebody is the best feeling in the entire world I think saying is the least exciting of it all. It's really just about how you feel so I feel like when you love somebody and you guys are in a relationship where you feel like you're safe enough to say that you both probably love each other so just go you guys. After the break we've got jaylen spheres. She stopped at Family Brittany and the most difficult moment of her life. That's all next joining us now is Jamie Lynn spheres. Hey Jamie how's it going over there? Good how are you doing pretty good? How's your quarantine? Have you been staying sane? Yes I I mean it's kind of hard to complain because I feel very fortunate. We do have a yard and all were being asked to stay home so a little bit mentally and emotionally challenging. You know with Schooling kids but for the most part. We're really We're really we're doing. We're doing pretty good. What's The craziest thing you have done to pass the time you know a lot of arts and crafts? Which is something we always do to another level. I think I've like I've literally spent all my money on Chalk. This year so That's probably the weirdest thing that I've been doing a lot. More of who've been quarantining with my sister came in at the beginning of it but we were not certain how long everything's GonNa last. So she came in for about two weeks. I think it was and she went back home so she was here. My brothers in here just Armenia family though. Because obviously we're not trying to you know just make this like a quarantine party. Yeah absolutely but in great news. You're going to be on net flicks super excited about it. What made you want to return to the TV screen? I think that it's just kind of about timing. You know I've been an actress and several very young. It's a part of WHO I am. I love doing it honestly. I just did not realize how much I missed it until I was back on set and playing the character. I can't believe it's been fifteen years since zoe one on one premiers. If you could go back in time and tell your younger self something maybe some advice or anything. What would it be for? Probably the main thing would be. Listen to your mother Even though you think she knows nothing at this age she knows everything in your life will be a lot easier. If you let your mother help you I really think I'm going to save myself a world of pain. That is such good advice. And I'm sure that you understand that more now than ever since you are a mother and how do your kids think you are because you are on tig tough? We've got Charlie following you. Eleven year old Tick Tock is you know. It's like winning an Oscar to her. So Charlie follows me and that is you know that one week will points for probably solid twenty four hours. I love that you recently got pretty open and emotional about everything that happened with. Matty's accident I know that you know that really took a toll on you and on the entire family. In what ways do you think that whole experience changed you as a mother? I decided that nothing was scary anymore. I saw my worst fear and then when I was able to win literally my daughter. Give him back to me. I don't get to be ungrateful I don't get to. I don't get to complain anymore. All the petty stuff. I've gotTa let it go. He gave you get that one big. Wish that one thing you want. I got mine so I need to live every day being thankful and grateful even for the bad days because when you see your worst fear and then by some miracle you're given your given it back. I just think that that's something I can't even put into words. Honestly that getting emotional thing is just such a good reminder for everyone to just always be grateful to live every day fully so your health for being open about that. I love that you were saying that you and your sister got to spend time earlier in this quarantine. I figured we'd play a little game called in which sister spears edition. So I'm GonNa have you weigh in on whether you or your sister? Brittany is more likely to do the following things. Are you ready yes? I'm ready. Which sister is most likely to call the other sister for advice? I think she would call me through advice Honestly I really do believe that who is most likely to reply to a twitter troll. That's probably who is most likely to have another kid. Make our her either one of us who knows but I could go either. Way probably is most likely to be a drama queen. Her One thousand percent who is most likely to record new music? I I think her most likely to have a midnight snack. Her cheats in the middle of the night all the time. Same Girl Jamie Lynn. Thanks so much for stopping by everyone. Don't forget to watch sweet magnolias on net flicks. Thea by type of one. Quick Story SUPERMODEL. Naomi Campbell isn't taking any chances when it comes to sing safe. She were a full on has matsue while on a plane. I would absolutely boo this person even before corona. Who would do this would you? You seen? What level you at Erin? I have the mask with you. Know the things on the side and then I have the gloves that I wear and then I wear the covers over my shoes. Would you share an ice cream corona? Would you like lick it? Your boyfriend Kalicki. Ross cream you happy to do that. No absolutely not no I with your friend you can share an ice group your spit all over the ice cream. Why why no you guys are busy so has to yes or no do even care anymore husbands and has matting it up where you guys that. Is it for us today? Don't Miss Tomorrow's show we've got Hollywood dating secrecy then.

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166. The Secret to Happiness: Don't Be a Douche Bag

The Working Experience

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166. The Secret to Happiness: Don't Be a Douche Bag

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It's no service on any clear of the closing doors the going to be a few minutes. Ma'am. Tran traffic should make make sure Johnny that report. SAT. Charlot. Email meeting at Ted Gifty link ball at work makes the dream work moving and after the meeting, we'll have a breakout session where am I hot box microwave if discussed was that now. Hey, very welcome to another upset of the working springs podcasts. It's mattie. Carey, and John and we have quite a podcast for you today. Yeah, I run because it's about being happy and successful without being an a hole, and John. You are a colossal a hole. Yeah, I, I don't agree with this article. I think the only way to get ahead in life is to be complete and utter douchebag slash asshole. You know, the word douche bag is interesting. And I'd be interested interested in how you define it. Because I remember I did I did I just walk all over the hashtag metoo movement with douchebag now look. So I think do snouts. Okay. Yeah. Bags okay. I've heard women used. Okay. I don't associated with a woman. I mean, I know douche is a feminine hygiene product. I don't know how the two became acquainted, but I think, well, my point is I was my girlfriend a few years ago was from Brazil, and her. She spoke English fine. But it was obviously not a first language and certain idioms and expressions were kind of lost in translation. And she was friends with this woman who was dating. This guy who was a dish bag. And I said that guy's a total douche bag and she's like, what's it like she didn't like him either? But she said, what's a dish bag and I was like, I it was kinda hard for me to describe it. I was like, I don't know. She's like you mean like an asshole. And like not really and I didn't really like I don't know somebody who's very kind of. Smarmy and just kind of a jerk, and kind of like self satisfied, and they won't like passive aggressive like they won't do certain things. Yes. I mean that's Bill. Right. Actually, that's exactly how I would protray someone any would be specifically a male. I would I would never call a female adduce back. I've, I've only thought of it in terms of a guy. Yeah. Yeah. Only only got almost like a guy who's like, like, you know, week, spine and smarmy, you know, just like just an like an I dunno say, like an idiot, but now. Idiot. It's like you didn't fill the form out in blue egg. So I'm not going to accept it just because you didn't fill the form out in blue it, I that's a douchebag move. Yes. And there's like douche beggary like Hella guy will dress he'll dress like a douchebag, right? And again, it's like the definition is different for different people like when I see a guy with a visor on and his sunglasses. Perched on top of his visor, and he's got his like Under Armour golf shirt on and his, I don't know. I just I think that, that would that would be Bank, or my personal favorite is. The guy Ferrari the sunglasses backwards but flipped up. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. That total. That's a, that's a douchebag move. Yeah. Huffy pants for men douchebag, boo. Yes. Yeah. Stuff like that. Again, times it's kind of hard to define it. And that's why it's such a great word. I do remember this, this female teacher. I was in her room and she said to her class, you're being a bunch of douche bags, so he shouldn't care. She was just like you'd be like throw frosted tips on your air, douchebag, Toby's beg move. Yeah. And there are certain professions kind of lent. A lot of bureaucrats you would say are douche bags because they just like they live to make your life, a problem, you know. Yeah, exactly like, you didn't fill out the form. It's supposed to be like this, like the DMV is filled with. I think it's a requirement that you'd be at least part douchebag to work when I was trying to get my license. Transferred up here from New York. I lost my wallet. Which had my New York driver's license like a month before I moved back up here. And I was like, all right. Well, I'll just get a Massachusetts one. Oh my God. I mean, this is like five trips to the DMV never had the right documentation the land. I think they, they have, like a perverse pleasure. Yeah. On the fact that like your this is your fourth time like no, this is not the right documents. Right. And just that the glued ING on their part, this one woman, finally, like I nearly burst. I'll she said she said something and I sucked in a breath. And I was like I've been here five times, and she was like, okay. Okay. Okay. And she liked it. You know, it's like this. This guy has suffered enough. Yeah. Really? We'll bend the rules. Right. Right. And she actually said like who did you see the last two times? I, I said, I think it was some, this described her, and she's like a got you could tell that was the douchebag of, of all douche bags in that office. Anyway, I think this article is saying, try to avoid being that person. But there are I mean, I've seen teachers like this who, who do I remember I was teaching at one school. I was a long term sub, and I wasn't this one particular class. I think it was like eleventh grade honors they had to write papers and what the teachers were doing and they made a point of doing this. They didn't give back. They're rough drafts until the Friday before we went on vacation and the final draft was due the Monday. We got back and they did it on purpose. They. Wouldn't give the rough draft back until the Friday before. So they were forced to work on it over the vacation. I'm like, that is such a douche bag and that that's douchebag move like why it's vacation like you're like I don't get work over vacation. It's it's a vacation. I don't think this article the message from this article is. It's the same thing you can insert whatever noun or adjective, you want. Don't be a whole don't be a dick. It's really if is like what I love is like some here, a, the do douchebag of like an individual who is, you know, goes to church, every Sunday, and, you know, whatever you know control what whatever thinks he or she is a model citizen but is, then an a-hole or a douche bag or a dick. You know what stopped going to church? Stop. Whatever you're doing. Just work on not being an a hole. I think there are some people who go to church because they think then gives them license to act like that. Right. In a perverse y I, I mean, I honestly I honestly think that this should be taught in schools like this should be. It's like how to be a, you know, how to treat your fellow human beings with respect. That's what it comes down to like, do not be the, the douche bed. Stuck up a hole in the situation and the other thing, too is like humans can detect that from a mile away. Like you're not fooling anyone. And then there's some people just don't care. They have no care in the world that they're acting like that. And you just have to, you know, you have to deal with it, and you see it with like know celebrity like once they reach a certain threshold, or like like a singer, or an actor and actress who literally everybody is fawning over them. They're surrounded by yes, men, and then the way they treat other people spirals down into a black hole. Well, when you you've been surrounded since you were a teenager and told your special, and you're the light of the world, and you're, you know, everybody loves you and this, and that, I mean you have like no frame of reference, you know. So it's, it's hard for those. I mean it's not like I have a lot of sympathy for them. But it's like you know, you have no frame of reference like you just think you're, you're the most special person ever. It's like President Obama put it very well to I forget, which university he was where he was speaking. But he said, you're not special stop. Thinking you're special, you're not, you know, like everybody's special, which means nobody that's exactly. I mean, that's what is like everyone's special. Yeah. Like the air go, nobody special. Well in school at a young age, I was labeled as special. But it didn't quite have that connotation. Would've thought something was was up in the fourth grade. When I got a special teacher to follow me. My, my own individual teacher. Knew something was up. Yeah. Are when everybody else was in the gold and silver reading group. And I was in the Brown reading group. And we had to go to the cafeteria for reading time. Mrs smith. Why does everyone else's books? Have words in. Pictures? Well. We're just trying to level things out for you. Love. Well, you know someone on the sports radio had really good comment about hockey players versus baseball basketball players, and you could probably by extension put baseball players into this. No. I think it was specifically NBA players was saying, like Zenda chara. You know who's on the Bruins they're playing for was game five tonight. He has a broken jaw, and he's gonna play he wants to play. He got hit in the face with the puck two nights ago. He's gonna be out there who they're know for how long and the guy said in the NBA, if they get a hangnail they're crying on social media, and they can't play for a month like they get an elbow to the chest, or whatever then also like these hockey players beat the crap out of each other and afterwards a slap in hands. No big deal. Nothing personal. They, you know, get along and all that. And he just said, it's such more like a like a manly sport. Like it's a sport. You play you get out there. You know, take your injuries and stuff were, you know, other professional sports, and he was saying he accused the NBA of being the worst of these words like any little thing, it's like you know, like I don't know the Celtics this year. They're all the kyri Irving. They're like bad mouth in each other and saying, you know, just really negative and he said he never I mean, I think in the NBA the, you know, the salaries of these guys are so catastrophic, you know, they're, they're like astronomical sums like making like, you know, thirty million dollars a year or two hundred and fifty million five year contract and it's not done. They'll complain about and they'll go play. And so, the injuries, you know, when when they get an injury, they're looking at themselves like the play ability in the future. Right. And the brand of themselves, they don't want to permanently injure them. Ourselves. And they're, they're like protected investment. Yeah. I know. But it's like now I guess that's the problem. People have. I mean like last year, I guess, Kyrie Irving brokers flood. I mean, that's you break your foot you break. Your foot doesn't matter how much the pain you. But it it is like the attitude like, you know, none of this is good enough. I don't like playing here and blah. It's like well then go do something else. You know go go be a stockbroker or whatever you were going to do now. I mean, a lot of these guys, you know, they're eighteen years old. They don't go to college. I think they're trying to waive that rule. Didn't they have like the two two years of college rule or something like that? And they're even trying to get rid of that for the NBA now. They're, they're they don't need any college can go rhino high school into the NBA. Oh, I thought they had to go for. I mean, I, I think that the we've spoken about this before on the podcast is I think that the, the, the players in the NC, double A in college should be compensated. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I it's the biggest rip off. It's the fact that the universities and the coaches are lining their pockets, and they're all standing behind the fact that they well, they're getting a, you know, an education. Yeah. This, you get an education and a check. Yes, absolutely. No. I mean, they're making a lot of money for those places. You know, my favorite and this is related to work David price. You know, he's one of the pitchers for the Red Sox. And. Yeah, was credited with contributing a lot to their winning the World Series. My favorite was when he came out there were like on them for not pitching well in a game before the World Series. And he's he's had some issues in Boston. Like people would ask him if you liked playing in Boston. He would say, yeah. It's okay like he was never. About it's like how much money are they paying you? And then he said he wasn't pitching that, well, because he had carpal tunnel syndrome a minor case carpal tunnel syndrome from playing fortnight. Actually certain us in public. She used flying too much for it night. And I'm like you're getting paid to do this. Right. Like you're not. This isn't a pickup game. Like your. Yeah. And then another time he said, his his he of the sniffles, because the, the pollen in the air has allergies were honoring them and come up with these things, or you're like, all right. Maybe that's true. But people don't really want to hear that. But he kind of became my favorite pitcher. I was like nice guys is honest, he's laying out there. Yeah. Boston, and he's just how how you feel and he's telling you exactly how he's feeling that he listed in lie about it. I have carpal tunnel syndrome from playing to me. You know, but, but then I respect more than the die hard fan who literally wants to gauge their is out when the home team doesn't win on on. It's great with Boston sports radio because. You know, the patriots weren't weren't winning at one point in the season of his all over they're done. They're never gonna make the Super Bowl. Brady's of bomb all the stuff. He scored a touchdown. And they still said he didn't do it, right. It endure. It wasn't it wasn't good. Or they would win a game on. No, it wasn't a good win. I'm like, I you know, I'm no expert on football. I stopped playing the seventh grade. But when you get the ball across the goal line and accounts, isn't that usually good. I don't know if we're in some other universe, but yeah, well, you know, I I was I was talking with my dad who is eighty three years old, the three eighty four and we're talking about the NBA finals, which are going on right now. And he's, he's like, you know, I really wanna see Golden State when I want, I don't want. I don't want to cheer for the Canadians. I'm like, dad, that's the Toronto Raptors every guy on that team is not from Canada. They're all American, it just so happens at the franchises in Toronto. He's a guy still I want the American team to win. Mike. Makes no sense. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's the way people are they get, you know, I, I mean I it's kind of funny because like, you know, since the days of Joe DiMaggio and whatnot like there's no real home team like these, these guys are from all over the place. And they're, they're just. I mean pretty mercenary, they're gonna go whoever pays them enough. Yeah, they're gonna work goes pays. I mean I, I look at professional sports is I enjoy, watching it. I enjoy the athleticism the teamwork watching plays. But at the end of the day, I could care less who wins, I like the excitement of the competition, but I could literally care less, who wins. No in this goes this goes across multiple sports, and I won't wouldn't even lose a second breath or become slightly depressed. If you know the team from Saint Louis b. Beat, you know, the, the team from New York, I could care less. Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean it it does out a certain excitement when like the patriots in the Super Bowl. The Bruins are in, you know the the Stanley Cup finals are the Red Sox are in the World Series like, you know, it, but after a while, especially with the patriots that can start to be really overkill well to, to link what we're talking about two sports. I was watching I fell into the YouTube rabbit hole of watching it was. Coaches and professional athletes like getting into, you know not fisticuffs. Although it almost came close with the press and sometimes with fans and like coaches, like Bobby Knight was on there. Bobby Knight was famously an asshole like he was so bad. He got thrown out. He, he was he was an asshole, he would throw shares. I mean he but impress conferences, he was a riot like it was really funny. And it's you know, one coach got really really mad because one of his players was being denigrated in the press that he was a college coach. And you know he was like how dare you guys talk about him like that. He's nineteen years old, like you had bad game like what's your problem? And there's always pushing poll with, like your sports caster, you've never played professional sports. One guy, actually said and it is really funny. How these, you know sports report. Will go into the locker room after a game like a football game. And stick a microphone in the face of this guy who's like six three three hundred pounds of muscle who just lost a game, and is pissed off. And we'll be like so did you lose that game? Like, I would not never have the balls to do anything like that even approach the guy when will they know it's on camera. The guy's not gonna do anything. Well this one guy was coming close. He was getting really mad. And he was, you know, getting close he was basically daring the guy to take a swing at him. He's like, go ahead and take a swing go do. He's like you're not a man. You're not a man. You talking like that. You and the sportscasters. It's like they always say, hey, I'm just doing my job, which I was kind of pisses me off, because it's like you can use that to justify anything but well well talking about getting to fisticuffs. My brother is the coach of my nephew's baseball team. All our guy j AJ shoe, weeks ago, the umpire, the unpire is in the baseball game had a series of bad calls that. That post-game erupted into fistfights between not only the dads, but the moms all the two opposing teams all my God. There was a brawl the police recalled all that I've, he was in this meeting because they are now having difficulties getting ups for the games. Oh because the nobody wants to touch this with a ten foot pole, because, you know, they don't wanna get, you know, a costed post game like slash your tires or vandalized, your house or something. Yeah. Well, the thing, what, what age was saying is, you know, some of these are. They love the game. They played the game. They know the game. And then there are other arms that are, you know, guys are like out of work, and they need to make fifty bucks game. And they literally don't know baseball or paid. They get paid. Yeah. Oh, I thought they were like volunteer dad's or something. No, no. They're not volunteer as they get paid like anywhere between twenty to forty or fifty bucks game. I'm not sure the pay. But and then some of them come in there and they, they don't know what they're doing. So there are legitimate bad calls. But as a parent, you got to step back, how old is enough. I'll these these are. These are fifth graders cold my. You gotta take a step back. Yes. Yes. Yes. To relax. Massapequa take a deep breath. This is in a garden city and Nassau County. You know, if I were in Franklin square, if I were a person with authority, I would be so time to be like we're done. You're not having any more baseball call out parents specifically you Bob Thomsen you really. We're done like a brawl at fifth graders baseball game. My God, that is pathetic. But, you know, I hear about that all the time year about parents who are just absolute, you know, they're lunatics about, you know, I've seen it. I've, I've seen it on the sidelines. I mean p parents get way too invested. These these see themselves in their children. And this this, this is a just getting back to this article. This is a prime example of being an asshole being a dick and being adduce back. Yeah. One all all, and all in one, all round one big burrito of douchebag ary can you imagine like being arrested for assaulting someone at a child's baseball game? You magin explaining that people. Well, I got ya. I got plenty of stories there was this was about two years ago. And we were there was a, a soccer tournament that mice sons team was hosting and as part of the tournament like there were like multiple teams were playing on multiple fields. But since we're running it all the parents would volunteer, we would volunteer to, like hand out the trophies, or you would of volunteer to be a field marshal. Right. So you would go you would get in one of those carts and you would go from, like field to field and, you know, make sure everything's. Okay, so I did the first half of the day, and it was like everything was fine, and Jeannie to the second half of the day about an hour into it. A brawl breaks out in one of one of the fields. A dad tackles another dad, and like literally, the police came in. What had happened was the, the dad, one of the day? Dad's was taking a picture or video of his son playing soccer and the dad who attacked him thought he was taking a video of his daughter, his thirteen year old daughter. Oh my God. So he accused him and he's like look man is like look. Are you kidding me? Like I've been here. All game like taking videos of my son played soccer. You're being ridiculous. And then the other guy demanded that he give him his phone. So he could delete the, the, the, the, you know, the photos are the videos, and he refused. And that's when he attacked them. She's, gene. So Jeannie comes over there. The wrath wants nothing to do with it. All the parents are backing up and one hundred fifteen pound woman is trying to break apart. You know, the, the guy who attacked and was like six three two and a quarter. And the other guy was like. Five ten and there's genie in they're trying to break up these two monkeys. Yeah. That's when things go wrong. Go so badly. It would never occur to me. I mean granted on a daughter, but it would never Kerr to me that, like I mean, if I saw some dude in the bushes or something like that. And, or it was like lurking around the locker room or you know, I don't know. But like I'm sure worth their dozens of parents taking videos of their kids playing soccer. Yeah, I will I wasn't there. But the and the thing is, is like those guys do exist. So like as a parent, it's very difficult is very contextual. Right. I would have had to have been there in like for me. If like I was accused of something like that. I would be like, look. Here's my phone like, I don't want you to delete videos, but you're, you're more than welcome to watch them. I was like, and you'll you can see like the POV is on my son, playing and not on your daughter. You know. And I and I resent the fact that you're accusing me of this, but yeah, to have a look for yourself like just just to clear the air because but the other guy apparent apparently you know, one team was losing the you know the other parent was yelling all game. So there was there was some back story to right, right. Yeah. Then the one that cops came involve with a with an accusation like that they interviewed multiple people, so there was more to the story than just the pictures. She's, I mean if somebody came up to us me of that, it would cross my mind, just like get away from me, like no, you're not seeing my phone get away from me. But I don't know. You're right. It's all McConnell. Of the situation. Well, you know what I was remembering that with a sports reporter, folks, the guy, one of the football players was, you know, this reporter was asking questions. And the guy was based just get away from me. Stop asking me those questions and. He the football players like what do you even know about it? What was the last time, you know, you've never played football and any kind of level. And the guy was like, yeah, I have. And he goes, okay? When was that because middle school? These seriously Sutton the reporter and the football players like middle school. Congratulations. You must be an expert. But that's the whole industry is people who do not play professional sports calling people out who do. And you can see how a professional athlete would get irritated. Like, you know, being teacher someone tries to like call me out on it on away. I handled something or whatever Mike well. All right. But you don't know the whole story here or you know, like every day, what the says, you know what, you know what the deal is? I think most people in most professions, cops, you know, probably feel at the most like they criticized all the time, and it's like, well, yeah, but you're not out there every day in the street dealing with these situations and things like that. But that was really a good one. Oh, this is pretty good right here. I liked what he wrote. Says. He talking about his feedback, the I wrote this. This article he says, but my feedback has been the non gift that keeps on giving. I guess he's, he's talking about the way he was before he sort of had as a pithy. I was always quick to remind the guy who's probably supporting three kids on forty thousand a year that it took forty minutes to get my room service or expecting that if I'm working at midnight, the twenty four year old who works for me should be as well. I try to compensate for the former by tipping generously. But that's paying backward, after all, I worked my way through high school and college as a waiter valet busboy and saw myself in every service worker, still twenty five percents, no excuse for being a jerk, and I'm trying to fix this. I love the idea of just paying people off just, you know, stuff at twenty. Yeah. And it's, it's really you know, I it goes to the fact that like nobody cares like literally nobody cared. Everyone is dealing with their own mountain of crap. And you know. No. You, you roll into the restaurant or the hotel and think just because you have this platinum or black card or your reward member. Whatever go shove it up your ass like you have to treat the you're interacting with other Uman beings. You have to be respectful. He have to be nice, and you should also be humble. I mean, that would be helpful, there's really not actually feel it's actually painful for me to watch interactions like that. And always on the verge of jumping in and I have said stuff in the if someone's belittling someone in a social status that would deem them below them. Like if you're know if someone is teeing off on a waiter, there, even. Even below them. It's just it's a perception. Right. That is, it's such a painful thing to watch and it's I feel bad for the person getting the, you know, online of the shit storm, but I also feel bad for the person like giving it because to, to do that. Like to be in that your life must be just just crap. You must be a miserable person to destroy somebody like that. Yeah. I know. I do remember one time I didn't say anything, but I was with fron. Justin. We were in. I don't know. It was like a fast food restaurant. We were driving outs Californian in this woman to started teeing off on the woman behind the counter over nothing really. It was like, I don't know, plastic utensils or something. And Justin is the type of person who will say something, and he looked at, and he's like, why don't you stop giving this woman's hard time, like why don't you? And the woman was very taken aback that he said something, and I was like, yeah. Like stop you know. Well, when you talk about humble. One of the greatest stories of hard was a friend of mine. Jim worked on the first couple of seasons of Chapelle show. And they were getting studio set up. So they're bringing in all the equipment and everything this was when they were starting the first season. And there was this guy there, who was helping them, you know, pushcart San and things like that. And he said, he's really funny guy. He's really engaging, you know, very nice and. Someone said he looks a lot like Eddie Murphy. And they were like, yeah, he kinda sounds like them to in turns out, it was Charlie Murphy Zadie Murphy's, blah, blah. Any was pushing in quitting. And one of the guys all of a sudden realized who he was. And he said he was like, oh, Charlie's like you shouldn't be pushing the stuff, and he's like, I'm not going to stand here and watch you guys work like come on, you know, and he's helping out and everything couldn't have been a nicer guy. It's like, wow, that's, that's, that's rare reminds me of this, this story, when we were living on the upper east side in Manhattan, and we just like all other parents, we would put our kids in these stupid programs thinking, they would be like geniuses. So my. Did not do that, by the way it was. Yeah, it was. It was all garbage just as the money. So there was this thing, called little maestros where you would take your, your son or your daughter, and they would play music, and they play instruments and all this good stuff. Very like rich upper east side. He thing to do very expensive. So typically, the mom would go with the child, and then they would go to this place, and they would sing songs. So I was in, but this is when I was freelancing, and that was in between TV shows, so I decided, I joined genie with my oldest son. My son was probably like two years old at the time. So we're in there, and I'm I'm kind of like standing in the back because there's like there's a whole protocol to this stuff of this hands and I don't know what's going on some kind of like standing off to the back. So the end of the. The, the class, the little maestro ends, and I distinctly remember there was like a very steep staircase up up to the street level. So I help gene with our, our. One of they call that the wagon that they push the crib, whatever. Not not the crib roller. I'm sorry. This stroller the baby carriage. So I, I help genius when the stroller. And then I see, you know, really very crusty upper east side woman, there's no one there to help her. So I was like, all right. You know, I'll go down there. I'll give her hand in his very tight very, very tight. So I'm going up with like one hand because it was the it was so narrow. You couldn't grab it with two hands, so I have, and then I'm kind of looking up, and I remember it was like the stairs were uneven. So one point like, and she wasn't paying attention. Like she was she was grabbing it with one hand, but she was like talking with her friend. So the balance kind of got off on the on the stroller and the kind of lurched one way. So I grabbed it really quick, but it was like a. Jarring thing and she was horrified, right? Yeah. So we get up and get onto the thing. And she goes right over to the head of little maestros and starts screaming at him. That one of his employees doesn't know what the F is going on. He's got his head up his ass, and she's referring to me. So the guy is just like he just turns white, and he goes, he goes, man. I'm so sorry. Can you? Please point him out to me. And I'm like, like twelve feet away. And it's getting like kind of an easy and she points to me. And she goes that guy and he goes that gentleman over there. And he's, he's like she's like, yes. And he goes, oh, he's, he's Aden's father. So I hear this and then I am I go over, and I introduced myself, and I'm like, you know, I you know, you were coming up, I was like we're coming up the stairs. You kind of lurched, you know, one way, and I was like, you know, you're, you're welcome for the help. And she just stormed off. So wait. She was trying to get a baby carriage up the stairs as well. No sh she had. No. It was a two. It was a two person job to get the baby. Carriage up your Bill, the no I already got my baby carriage on. Yes. So all the little maestro, people that were, there were helping the moms with the carriages, right? Right. Okay. But she was like the last one and they thought everyone was up. So I looked down. I was like, oh, she needs help. So you went down to house, so she is, she assumed I was an employee of little maestros and you do have your head up your ass. That's true. I, I had to give it to her. She was shoes shoes. Exactly. Right on multiple fronts. But just I mean she was like she was mortified because she was looking to destroy me, you know as an employee. But then, once you realized that I was the dad, she just no apologies or anything she's storms off. Yeah. That, that would be that's an a hole, right there. That's an eight home. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Some people are just like that in some, you know, some people are very nice. You hear all kinds of stuff about celebrities different celebrity encounters. People actually, you know, being very nice. And then some people you might wish we're a little nicer, but they're really not actually encountered Naomi Campbell on a film, set one time, you know, ironically enough suited. I yeah. She was she even really freak out or anything. I talked to her a little bit. She was, you know she's fine. My, my experience wasn't that wasn't that great. Let's say while I made I will Naomi's listening, so Naomi my experience with you was fine. She she it wasn't. It wasn't bad. And, you know, also, too, it's like she's I mean, you know, you, you don't know what's going on in their personal life. She might have been up for fifteen hours. Yeah. She was just, you know, she was she was in ru. She was just kinda Kurt, you know, she was little little bit short. But you come into that situation and you're like, you know, a huge store almost has to go like above and beyond. And they've got to do that for every interaction like it's it must be tired. You know. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people like if you're a celebrity right in your know you're out to dinner and you're playing with your kid and you're constantly bombarded with fans coming up take cell fees and all this other garbage. You have to be a Saint not to lose your shit. I'm sorry, that, that would piss me off. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, are you can see why people? I mean out Baldwin is kind of famously irascible, but, you know, I remember one time he just said, I use get tired of people coming up to me and like ask me questions. You know, like I'm just not in the mood sometimes, and I, you know, says, I tend to say what's on my mind at the moment. And then, of course, that's the only thing you ever here. And of course they owe me Campbell. I believe she was convey or she pled guilty to assaulting one of her assistants with a phone or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. I mean b- basically bottom line. A friend of mine was working on a spot for ESPN, and I think it was either Terry Bradshaw or boomer assize and. Was just, you know it was a pretty easy gig for him. Come in. Little talking had thing said he was very nice guy and he was talking to one of the producers not on camera. They're talking. And apparently his father, whoever was, I wanna say, Terry Bradshaw. His father had also played and was was, I think had a few Super Bowl rings and he was like, you know, the one thing I learned from my dad was just treat everybody. Well, as like that's what people will remember about you. If somebody has a personal interaction with you. They will not remember that you won five Super Bowls. They'll remember that you're good to them. And he said, so I've always tried to do that. And he was very gracious. He came around. He thanked the whole crew, which a lot of people don't remember to do which buys you a lot of points. No matter. Absolutely. I mean, I think everyone has just taking it back to work. I think everybody has encountered in a hill. Dick or douchebag at work. I would say that might be a universal shared experience, and I would say, everyone has been a deuce fag and able or a deck. We've all had our moments. We all we all have we all have had our moments. Yeah. I mean, I got kind of, you know, I try to tell kids and adults. Do this to, like I have two periods when I don't have students in the room in a day, I have four periods when I have students do not come into the room when I'm teaching another class like with your personal thing, because I need to give them my time, you know, I cannot be distracted in the middle of talking and adults. Do this constantly. I, I would be outside, you know, the little window. That's what they did was just knock. Yes. And then you'd give me like the one finger like, hold on a second. And I'd knock again, a pointing to like my notebook be like, Mr Kerr, miss right, honestly. No, this is what happens. But adults are doing that. They do you know I'm like right in the middle of something. And I'll you know, I'll go go up in the door a little bit my. Yeah. What you know, like what is it? And. And I've told Stewart like one kid said, I was rude to where like I told you do not come was I root tour. Yeah. I was kinda rude to her. But it's like I gotta send you a message stopped doing that. But again to do with adults don't really think anything of it either just walk in. I'm in the middle of a sentence. All I just need to get my do you see that? I'm standing near blocking. Like, are you processing this information? I've got twenty kids in front of me. It is very difficult to hold their attention for any length of time. And they don't wanna listen to what I'm babbling droning on about anyway. Exactly. But really, I mean some adults and I'm probably guilty of this, too. And I just don't know because we never know this about ourselves but are just a Hurley clueless. It's like, don't walk in and interrupt me in the middle of a sentence like what, what is what's going on with in your head? You don't need to hand me that right now I have a mailbox goal. Put it in my mailbox. I mean, there are countless times when I've when I've fallen under the category of a whole dick or douchebag, many, but I but I would say. Thousands, I would say tens of thousands. I mean, we I mean, we got we got a lifetime here, but I've always now, as I've gotten older and just a slight bit of maturity. And I'm talking about a sliver, little Rory. I'm not even talking about the whole cake. I'm talking about Louis liver. I constantly monitor my thoughts my words, my actions to make sure that I am not. I don't fall into that category. And sometimes you can't help it. I can't, you know, people are going to perceive me, how they perceive me right to certain people. I might be a white privileged asshole very well could be. I mean I don't know maybe one hundred percent of the population, I could easily fall under that category. But I always, I'm I put my best foot forward and then also too. There's also a general lack where I really deep down, except for my, my family, my friends, and my, my close acquaintances, I don't care. What you think. I just I really don't care. But that's not an excuse for me to be a complete moron. I'm just saying. I just I don't care. I don't think you can. Exhaust yourself always thinking about interrupt. I mean, I do it all the time, like was I rude to that person that I think with me, usually my tone of voice in my attitude is like, you know, I'm just done dealing with you just stop like you know. No, I'm not, you know whatever it is like just put it over. You know someone tries to Cami some I'll be like just put it over there. Like, you know, I take tone. And then sometimes, I think ashen, the dumb ad or whatever. And then I think why am I worrying about this? Just like forget it you know, who cares. Just move on with life. They'll get over it. They'll probably live. You know, is something I do wonder though, I usually stay at the Sheraton in Brooklyn. When I come down to New York, which is good. I was enjoying my stay there. And when I come in people will be, you know, at the counter at the doubts will be I go, Hello, Mr Kerr, how are you and data and I really feel like telling them you, please. You don't have to call him mister car like you don't have to. You don't even have to knowledge. My presence. 'cause I start to wonder like what are they really think of me do they really resent me as being some like, as you say, privilege, white person? And I really want to say, but I feel like Larry David, like, if I actually started one of these interactions, it would go terribly wrong. Like if I said, you don't have to call me, Mr Kerr pleased like they would take that the wrong way. We'll dodge. It's true. It's like I'm always, you know, faced with that is like, when I when I go into teller, I get car service or whatever, I'm I grabbed my own bags, a able bodied human be I can do it. I can grab the bags. Yeah, but then at the same time, it's like they're looking to impress me with their service, and they want to go the extra mile. So it could be an, an indirect insult for me to be like, no all get that. And sometimes if I'm on HARA, I'll be like, no. I got I got you. Do they take that as insulting as opposed to them just grabbing the back? So I it's a it's a dance. It's not black and white. You know what I mean? And it's like the other thing, too, is like I like the one thing I'll do is like, if I'm with my kids, my kids will carry their own stuff, like they're an adult is not going to take my kids stuff. That's where I draw the line, and they can take my stuff happy, you know, I happen to do that. But my kids, they take the they look their own crap. I was watching this documentary on Conor McGregor that UFC fighter, and it was really good. And he was. You know. I mean he, he really is a rags to riches story to grub very poor and, and all of that, and he was then in Las Vegas, you know, he was earning hundreds of millions of dollars. And he. He was on a photo shoot something like that in this guy is walking with him with an umbrella over him over to keep the sun out, and he was like it to keep the sun out keep the sun off of him. She said he was he was very proud of this. He was like, you know, oh, you know, who the mother effort says, onset, because he's the guy with someone hold an umbrella over. Now again, he Gregory poor and this is all very heavy for him. It occurred to me that was probably to keep his skin from getting burned because they had, you know, from changing color, because they had to shoot him during the day. It was probably not just like kiss his ass. But to, you know, for practical reason, it's like having to run alongside somebody holding of over them. That that's a rough. Well, they people do have, you know male Butler's. Oh, yeah. I think I think P Diddy had mailed, Butler maybe still. Does a man servant. Yeah. Well we're coming up on the end here. So I'll just leave you with this. The author of the article. Let me get his or her name here. Give him some some credit shoutout from the working experience is now that we've mentioned, his name, Scott Galloway. I mean his career is just gonna skyrocket. Yeah, they his, his web servers are crashing as in speak, who is this guy that the working experience is talking about this is out to delve more into this article? I kinda gave it a scan over, but he has a very good word was that. That's how many k- reads articles say, I'm real the old scan over one or attention span anymore. Nobody zero. Yeah. It's just flipping through Instagram. That's my attention span. Well, what I like to do is like a really long heady article I like to read the first sentence and the last sentence formulate, my opinion, based on that done can feel. I can fill in the middle. So he says here at the end very the piece of wisdom nobody ever says at a funeral. He was too generous to kind and much to loving nobody ever. So nobody's gonna say gee, that person was just too nice to people. So you're not gonna lose anything by being nice. So not good. Let me give a shoutout to Scott Galloway. This is this is a good article. I like this because it's not filled with the usual, you know, Instagram affirmation crap. He has some good. Really? I mean it's not just like I mean it's bottom line is, is really just don't, don't be an asshole, better fun. The funny thing is about is your. It's it's going to benefit other people. But it's also you could do it from a selfish aspect like you're gonna be happier like hug people. Smile more. It's, it's going to it's going to release natural. What are those things called endorsing Najer endorphins out ever? It is just don't just don't be an ass. Don't be douchebag. Don't be a dick. It's, it's really simple. Yeah. I mean it's, it's amazing. How some actors don't realize just how expendable they are like they like a lot of times a, you know, someone's career is because people like working with them like, they're they're good, onset. They're professional that treat people well and other people don't, and they, they don't realize, like do you know how replaceable, you are? Like I don't care who you are. They'll get someone else to play Batman. I mean your, your career is a month from being over, then it's amazing how like I remember this woman on third watch this show that was on who was the first show. I have worked on when I got into the film industry and this, she was a lead, actress, she was awful to people. She was just so she was such a jerk. She would be late for things. And I remember the producer saying I can't wait till the show ends because that woman is never gonna work again. She had such a bad reputation and he's like he was talking to someone else I was just overhearing this, he's like she doesn't understand that outside of the show. She's nobody like this show is on at nine o'clock on Friday nights on NBC, like come on and yeah. And and word travels quickly your difficult to work with and forget it like this. There's a thousand other people with their headshots sitting in the casting a hitch. Office that they inexact rum, who won't be difficult who will treat people nicely who will be, you know what I remember my roommate at the time. His girlfriend was the talent PA, so she had to deal with this woman, and it was like, she would make them walk her dog and stuff like that. And she said, she didn't want to be summoned to set because it made her feel like a dog. So they had to like, come to her room and like request that she come to sat like, she didn't wanna call over the walkie. Like lady who are you kidding me? Yeah. Like who do you think you are like honestly, like that show was off the air? I think one more season and it was gone. You never heard of her again, never rent because of that. So anyway, people don't be like me. Don't be like, John don't have that sense of entitlement that nobody can figure out why. Why feel that way about myself? Well, I blame this podcast for that. Yeah. I mean, I now walk around like I own the place and that's that's primarily because of the success of this podcast. The problem is people are asking me to sort of drop these nuggets of wisdom, like on demand. And I it's tough, you know stuff. Well, I mean it's always, you know, we, we give this to the, the millions of fans for free for free for free and it really nudges at me at night. I mean I should be charging. Like I dunno hundred grand an episode. But you know that's not what it's all about. It's not about money. You know now. He's listening and you can get on my go fund me page. I'm just looking for, like, seventy five months to carry me over to. Yeah. Just on a serious note. I need a new still. Jump on there and throw some bucks down. Appreciate it few box, just a few bucks to old Mattie over, you know, switching back to domestic cheese. I mean I'm really kind of sacrificing here. You know, let everybody, thanks for listening, appreciate it. And we'll get back at you very soon, everyone. Thanks for listening and till next time. Thank you, everyone for listening to this episode of the working experience. We'd like to think our sponsors, one circle media and the still believe app, the only at that delivers video proof of the tooth, fairy, and Santa by simply taking a picture, download the app at still believe dot CO today in a major kids. And if you work for a studio network, startup or corporation and are looking for a partner to create media, that will build engage in entertain your audience reach out to me at John at one circle media dot com. I would love to hear from you. And that's it. The end the sweet. And until our next audio encounter.

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Liris Crosse - Episode #240

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Liris Crosse - Episode #240

"There is this a niece louis show the number one podcast from love dies winning with your host the queen of curvy conversation sydney's lewis and boom boom welcome to the show i'm your host shenice louis today is monday july first twenty nineteen make sure you're following the show social media page on facebook at the shenice louis show and on instagram and twitter at shenice show and make sure you subscribe to the show on apple podcasts google podcasts spotify or your favorite podcasting app today we have a very special guests liras cross dubbed the body and the naomi campbell of plus is they model actress empire near in the fashion industry full full figure an african american women pushing kirby women into mainstream bashing she is grace magazines from american bold essence british cosmopolitan to vibe is well it's been featured in store campaigns were lane bryant in ashley stewart was named one of the top ten plus models in the industry buy vibe vixen magazine the huffington post top ten most popular plus models endo's dot com named her one of the twenty models destroying traditional beauty standards lewis also made her mark in the video vixen market hailed one of the eye candy models of the decade a double xl magazine in november twenty seventeen lewis named one of the two model winners of project one great to be featured in marie claire magazine first perplexed models lewis is currently on the cover of the july twenty nineteen sixty summer issue a plus motto magazine in is featured speaker at the twenty nineteen essence music festival happening july fifth through seven in new orleans louisiana less welcome nearest to the show hi there is hello hello how are you i'm good how are you you're so busy these days oh my gosh yes blast i say book busy and blessed so so that i'm not gonna complain about it i'm just trying to figure out how to make everything work and i'm glad we were able to make this interview happened today yes with thank you so much for being on the show now the last time time you were on the show was december twenty seventeen annual fresh off of project runway now do you think winning that modeling competition gave your career a major boost or or all of this happening just 'cause you hustling heart well i think it's a mixture of both a being on project probably definitely gave me a mainstream platform to already a push my brand that i had already built for over a decade 'em even more out there to a new audience is also like refreshed 'cause everything that you've already done a m people got to see another side of me and 'em i think people got to see more of me in they were drawn to it so i've been able to have speaking gigs all over the country from a youth groups to women's groups to plus size geared event it's just it's really been amazing even clients there certain client of course they wanna work with me because i've been on project runway and because a i have a great following from that so i mean i'm thankful for it i'm thankful for that opportunity is the thing is when you get opportunities like project runway you got to be prepared to capitalize on him and i really was right ready and waiting for like a moment like this for for quite some time so when it finally happened i was like i'm i'm gonna take this i've run baby and then one of the things that i noticed 'cause i'm watching all the moves you make you got a new pr person in marketing team white i see you tagging him when you do yeah yes yes i love them pieces you know some people don't have to attack their teams they don't so it's not like they asked me to do that but i i really believe in them and love them so much in i love their supportive me in a you know i i'm not stingy i'm one of those people if you if that person is making moves from me maybe they can help you make move to but if i never tag them that you wouldn't know about them but i wanna get rang shout out to my publicist lisa seth a platform public relations she i mean she's definitely i told her she renewed my feelings about having a publicist there's nothing like somebody who really believes in you and fight for you and if in your corner an m also shot out to 'em christopher holly in my brand manager at doug collins he's been just so helpful and amazing they both have a specially this year 'em but my brand manages bayless needs for about almost two years now so oh wow we are doing a good job 'cause i saw they're not like sometimes people never reveal who is helping them 'cause they take the team so kudos to you or you know so little about you your book okay so you release year book make the world you're wrong way now i'm expecially impressed by you because i believe you publish this book independently but you still got the forward written by jim good us 'em i well i mean some days i see here in my apartment and i look at a copy of my book and i'm still amazed that i've been able to accomplish it it was i i did that i had a win the season was a starting price accordingly starting the air but it almost truthfully they come to fruition almost gave up at one point but you know giving up isn't really made an dumb but it was just more because i had a bit of a writer's block in my judgment really picked up from being on the show and i was just a little bit of everywhere and i couldn't really focused now it's like oh maybe i'll do this later in my mother was like nope you're gonna finish the book a you're gonna finish the book and you're gonna finish it like in the next couple of months and also my mother's checking me so but i also i have a praying mother my mother a i know she sometimes a see things in the spirit that i don't see so because she felt good about it i felt i needed to be just as convicted about it animal back in may i just really focused in a bike all right let's do this let's finish this project let's get this done and i really buckled down in did it in its self published it's available on amazon amazon is called make the world's runway 'em i interviewed tim gunn from my podcast the lear miles podcast in a wild interviewing him talking talking to him about my book and you know i was kinda like bringing up of you know the forward for my book kinda like joking didn't think he would like serious and he said you send me you know a few chapters of the book and i'll check it out in you know we should be good for mayor or if he he liked what he saw and he wrote in amazing forward for the book in i mean i'm still amazed that a fashion god like kim gun battle forward to my book but my yeah yeah okay 'em this also speaks to a chapter in my book called 'em chapter in my book about partnerships and fostering those partnerships is really important in business and not just the business of battling with the business of life how we foster the different partnerships that we have in my life who surrounding us and how we 'em connecting the dots of are alive with the people who are around us and i'm i'm so honored that 'em teams adopted out yeah that's a big deal congratulations on that thank you in make the world go round way is not exclusively for people trying to be a model correct no no no make the watch a runway the book for everybody a book everybody if you 'em and if you have you know maybe you are a person that's like i own a model but i wanna ebeling some tips that models used to to make it look so good 'em 'cause i speak from the fashion aspect to 'em to the inner and outer worked at models unions a i tell people that my book the world's runway is basically my whole principle that i used to prepare for the runway that i found a pun so people can use it for the wrong way of life in that that in a beauty in the audience pd i have men who have read the book i have women who read the book i've even had young people who read the book i've had model than not non bottles freed the book it's kinda like bob lamey life coaching so 'em in to who you are in the outside but also speaks to who you are on the inside i want people to be able to lift that that's why i want people to walk in their purpose 'em i want people to be a passionate about what they do 'cause i have a thing called the peak my piece of success so that's why you're passing their purpose you're pasture you're life posture you know pastures important on the runway because how your body of the line who you align with senior like david daylight and brian you hardly feeding it to your future their passion i have to be passionate about what i do as a model are you passionate about what you do as you're career is that made you buying nfl happy because you're not really passionate maybe you are still struggling the find your purpose i talk about finding purpose that talk about finding your voice finding it factor model but it factor about them also prayer 'cause i'm a christian is well aware i have a chapter one that because child you know in my yes we go through so many ups and downs so many rejection so more knows then we get yes is an idea right has destabilized which is god in my life i mean i would lose it in sometimes you need prayer to work we are available around do exactly to keep let's say keep you from going off right right you know or just sometimes you know you go after you know after you know after you know after new disney cacique can say you know just gimme the strip you get at the bits even making this next casting but for me it may be a casting for you and maybe a job interview you know 'em also i talk about standing in the power of a lot if you own a rear is i love you're you're poise and you're president you're power yeah i stand in my full power when i'm on the runway i know i am bringing i in queens how are you staying in your power in your life you show up at work when you go to events when you're going to the 'em the mets dot com mixer defined a new level of your life how you standing in your power you're poised to your point is how you deal with the pressure of life my old i had to break on the runway and i had to keep going trolling move heart you maintain poise under pressure in your life all these they're so so important so i put it in a book because people kept saying oh my goodness listen i love your confidence i wish i could just bag it up yeah you know what lyric can't go everywhere they're all over the world but a book well it looks like i am try but a blip to make it everyone house or everyone ryan dull in have eighty a deep in effect where you really reid the pages of the book you could really feel my heart you could really feel my heart you could build the blood sweat and tears that i put in to really trying to make it a that successful peace and 'em an that the world around being available and so that book you say this way everybody everybody can take something away from it but or those that specifically are looking to you for modeling advice are you still doing life overworking motto boot camp well i did do a my projects like which was a new class i brought to to the table 'em back in march in truthfully i thought it would probably be my last one because i've been really busy in i think a lot of people just don't realize amount of work time and attention it takes me to do those you know i think people just see they see me i just i make i make you look very easy but there's a lot of promotion money and stuff that goes into making happens so i may be doing it rather online next i'm not sure i'm not sure i know a lot of people like you in person so i mean it's a map out my goes look for the of this year and i see a pocket of time 'em decking gives me good time to promote as well as defined the right space and get the right people there to be a part of it then that's what i'll do if not 'em no no see me online but i right right well jim rome way 'em it has great tool for anyone who is also interesting modeling 'cause like i said i talk about the molly aspect of it but then i expound upon it so all my models out there i don't use enemy of a dm talking about had it in my league how do i can go i'm gonna say did you get my book yet it'd be right i'm gonna say you know there's there's not a conversation that really needs to be do you eat the book you know right yeah yeah so one of the big things that you're doing is happening this weekend you are slated to speak at these assets music festival on to panel discussions end you're having a book signing so tell us everything you're doing this weekend in new orleans like this is the interview but i wanna know what you're doing for real so i could see if i could be well i am let me let me give you a fun fact 'em i've only been the essence fest one time in it was quite a few years ago and i a great time when i went but i said oh yeah earlier practice i tell myself and i said i had a great time doing this step in next time i come back here i'm gonna be booked i'm gonna be working so freaking years did shop broke it i spoke it three years the pass by but this opportunity to fall into my lap because of my amazing publicist shut up the lisa i mean i mean i'm i'm bologna i belong but it just shows you also the however you're word chow yes you could be good thing in you know sometimes we speak stuff and realize okay well i i meditated missing why isn't happening yet i don't this years ago i'm gonna say over five years mhm and look how it's happening right now it's happening that it should be happening like right now the right the meta be attached to these events have a product i look i have a a new cover that's out i i have you know all i have a campaign campaigns running back into terro another other one bit 'em truck club so you know so many amazing things that are happening literally god sets up they knew exactly when we need them even happy that since he always had this plan a plan and his plan is usually not easiest coli better now playing hey man to that now you tell me you're exac schedule do you have like the where you be the times all my panel okay at the convention center orange alive but i will be a speaking speaking at the fashion how the fashion house portion of essence fest 'cause they have you know they have different a part of the festival so for the fashion house i'll be speaking at two pm at the convention center for the diversity in fashion panels so i'm excited about that because who else would my career years you know i've been talking about how much we need diversity in fashion in more ways than one then 'em then msg alexis at two pm then on july seventh july seven at one pm back in the convention center but this will be a part of the beauty carnival the beauty carnival i will be speaking at one pm on curves in confidence and about my book make the world you're runway and then following that i will be signing books i'm doing a book signing there an essence that you'll be all day at a book signing or that's a special time no i believe that's probably just gonna be an hour after we finish the panel i think is from one until one thirty one to one day so of hobbies be done probably be done by i say you three o'clock on dead kirby incompetent panel i might be saying the name wrong do we know anybody else that's gonna be on the panel with you so far they just have a had me they want it said just have a conversation with me i guess body no i know right i knew i couldn't believe i did that is a part of this new like we were just gonna go you know like i said i mean if they add someone else later i'm totally open to it i have no problem sharing sharing sharing delight were strongest together but if not i will definitely soak up that time and spread as many a jew and as much love and confidence a as i can to all my sisters who are gonna be there they're an essence fest please go to m essence festival dot com or if you're an instagram followers click the link on my bio and it'll take you directly to the link for the beauty carnival a an boy the fashion house which i believe is still inside of the carnival so 'em yeah i just i you know i i'm not gonna front i'm i've been a little nervous leading up to this because i'm like and then i literally this week people have been hit me like oh my gosh i'm i'm so excited to finally meet you as than that then i'm gonna be there when the piano and people like dm me in oh are you gonna take a picture of course it would be so i just i'm excited i'm so excited just to feel the love in to be able to 'em give a piece of myself there may be other women can just be able to truly like i say walk in a full confidence of who they are 'cause we are beautiful no matter what side we are no matter what how we are no matter how like how dark in i just won't be able to spread the love and help women be is confident and they're successful it's possible that is amazing amazing congrats on that i'm so so proud of you girl that is i think we had this interview plan for a couple of months so i had no idea you what's gonna come out on the cover plus model magazine today so i was like oh god she got caught on post interview you got everything happening i tell us how this plus model magazine issue came about well 'em truthfully it would rob mobley who had the idea 'em he was doing some research on tyson in 'em he was looking at some of the pictures that he did win naomi me and he's like oh i should remake 'em like the best pitchers which 'em whose naomi entice them but who am i gonna do with and then he like he could reach out the lira's since they do call the naomi of plus and i think you know nervous like i know she she wouldn't be but i've always thought he has a great look he presents himself so well in i just i haven't seen it done so i thought but it was a great idea to do an i'm glad we did it i mean my phone is literally been going off all day long all day long i know elizabeth warren road of notifications they catch up on but i literally i had a interview today for both be an m i had a radio interview for a a a radio station in new new orleans so a literally you've been on the run in now talking to you i still get my nails done at sunny start packing have the box all this stuff we get ready for as it but i just like to go but i am so so excited i am so excited 'cause shenice you know how hard i've been working over the years in yeah 'em you know sometimes you wonder you know what's next guys what's next right yeah right literally a this is when this is why you listen to the still small the spurs and sometimes they're not even small with and sometimes it's blaring legal out but you gotta listen to you're intuition and which i feel is guys in follow through on it in literally me writing the book is open so many other doors for me to be able to showcase pulitzer's is in for me to be also be able to help so many men women boys and girls in value is what has been feeding my soul those days when i've been really tired from traveling and stuff see it getting the message is the notes the ladders the dm the um you know even got a couple of reviews on amazon now all i need i need to get my amazon if you gave up a little bit more but 'em says those messages of people say you know this book really changed my life or had me a you know i had the mindset before about certain things but you know sometimes life happens and our slack in this gave me the that extra boost at i need it or you know it's helped me the helped me find my voice and a whole other way so those are the things that just make me feel good and help continue to to push through no matter what now you are gonna be essence festival this weekend which we are super super excited about but you have some other upcoming appearances that i have to play 'cause i'm a media sponsor vive other so you will be at the t c f stop expo august ninth through eleventh in atlanta and you will also be at the full big you're industry awards november second in queens new york so those those are two things that i know but i'm pretty sure you got a lot of morphine growing you're calendar yes but those were the ones that i'll be speaking about right now 'em especially for the team to see a as style expose this the kirby fashion easter somebody if they're listening and they have heard about it before but you go to t c f style expo dot com get your ticket a you will want to be there i know but they also have a crash was her name escapes me right now 'em i'll come back to it but they have a lot of great people who are gonna be there from me i'll be speaking 'em on a panel is well i'm gonna have copies of my book i'm gonna be signing copies of my book so if you don't make it down the essence fest you can definitely a please come to tcl style expo i will sign a new book they're important life into you i'm also just came back to me at the tea cfl it's both kasha cobb leonard she will be there a stylish jay bowling he will be there a it's it's it's just it's gonna be amazing anne marie from the kirby fashion easter she knows how to do it big in a she knows how to definitely a you know make it a fun event every body so you just you don't wanna miss it and i'm just excited to be back again 'em yes i'm so excited an you know one of the things i like about you is bad wanna do mainstream dream projects in prayer which you never turn your back on the plus size community thank you thank you well i admire you thank you i appreciate that 'em you know i think i think i will first i think i'm very down to earth 'em but also this is where these people who have helped to support me three years here's in 'em these are also some of my friends and people have done business with so i don't feel like i have to you know this this own people or turn my back on them just because i'm starting to work more around four am starting to be in other circles 'em am i gonna make everything like i used to certainly not 'cause that's just how how life is but i'm gonna do my best in show up when i can in 'em support the people in my community as much as i can always well that's awesome never change i love that so you do you have do you have anything else happening there we could be on the lookout for anything thing we should know about it i didn't mention well i always wanna shuttles 'em meghan cicero a because they are the bridal retailer i work with we have been changing being the game the past year and a half a whiff of the campaign as magazines a runway shows last year i became the first black size model to walk the marshall ono bridal fashionably show as as far as bridled at the pinnacle like it don't it w any higher than that so 'em that was a big deal for me to be able to do that and i'm just i'm amazed at the fact there were able to have in that market in bridal a you wanna you hardly see black women i mean in that goes right a venue hartley if ever see a plus model so for me to be black emphasizing work hit per magnusson terro and they're just using me because they just see the light in me and they see the value in me and i connect with their customers it's really been amazing in a you know i'm i'm on it so exclusively be their model nice so before you go tell us your official website in all of your social media pages well my website is leers dot com l i r i s c dot com a my twitter and instagram are leaders c a l i r i s c in a row in used to good am i used to buy you too is you to dot com backslash l o eight w model l o eight w view model so 'em you can't catch me on any of those platforms in a book it's under leaders across anything that you see on that does not cavalier across or something shorten is not my page so the bears cross i have won a public figure page in one personal page but everything on it as public 'cause they're still got nothing to hide you all right well thank you so much for being on the show i'm definitely gonna try to hang out with you this weekend in new orleans if you get a chance but if not i definitely see you in atlanta yes yes i look forward to seeing you in both how about that sounds good 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How To Draw A Viral Dream | Hayden Williams

The Lemar Show

1:17:59 hr | 2 weeks ago

How To Draw A Viral Dream | Hayden Williams

"Hello, my good friends. Thanks for joining me today today. I'm talking to someone who's full of energy full of energy, right? He's going to make you feel like you're online game is is just not right Hayden with James has got so much passion for fashion illustration. He's carved out on online space, which is very very hard to do and Garner the respect of many many huge celebrity. He's he's been able to leverage that and turn his passion into his day job. I think anyone who wants to do something that goes viral anyone who wants to know about online graft and the power of 10,000 hours by safety get your notebook out if that's you and yeah, enjoy. All right Hayden. Thanks for jumping on this. Thanks for having me. It's all good. So for those of you who don't know Hayden Williams is a brilliant fashion illustrator and designer. Yes, that's that's a a very fancy word for saying that he's extremely creative has an eye for good fashion. And Drew was amazing picture. Thank you. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. So yeah. Do you know what the reason I wanted to talk to you? Obviously, you're you're very creative person. You've had your own entrepreneurial Journey so far, but also, you know, I think the niche that you sit in is quite unique or at least to my ignorant mind. Yeah, it's quite unique. I don't see two German people too many illustrators. Yeah, and I'm sure it's broader than that, but initially anyway on say Instagram or any other platform having the same kind of dead. Impact as you have yeah. No, I I think the me, I mean I was probably one of the first I mean, you know, I didn't invent fashion illustration illustration has been around before, you know, it was even born but I was probably one of the first to really use social media to plug what I did and it was very organic. Like there was no change in strategy. There was no like marketing plan or anything like that because In the beginning it just was me sharing what I was passionate about which is just you know, I've always been drawing up and join us three years old. Like it's all I know two or three. Yeah. Do you remember the first day that you drew that you are extremely proud of like, oh my gosh. I'm I don't it was probably something Disney related cuz I remember Disney Disney. Well, my parents bought me all the way. I'm sorry for the VHS. You know young people are there is a piece of plastic that has tape inside it. I remember that is unreal. Yeah throw back. I had all of the Home Movies and I'd watch them religiously, you know, Cinderella Pocahontas all the you know, all the ones that we all familiar with but I was always focused on the female characters. It was it was, you know, even when I watch like Hercules or when I'd watch Hunchback of Notre Dom like it was always there, you know Esmerelda, I would focus on or I was you know, it was always so that I felt like I was drawn to those. Yeah just naturally drawn to draw them. Yeah wage. Because I was inspired by I guess the way the animate is and Disney portrayed, you know wasn't realism. It was like this kind of exaggerated or or guidelines kind of vision of of a of a woman, but it was just so beautifully done and I was just I felt so inspired to create and I just remember just wanting to draw these characters over and over again remember like the first month or two framed Rodger rabbit was obsessed with Jessica Rabbit and yeah, like a lot of people but lots of paperwork gradually like and even still she still influences my work and I've drawn her again quite recently actually, but it's kind of like those characters really inspired me as I grew up. I remember being into PlayStation at one point and I was excessive lot of crafts, you know, things like that and I would draw her and it was just as I got old to the theme contain. Yes similar when you say that right? Yeah, like very kind of like but it makes sense because obviously it would all manifest later on in the career. I would end up doing and and being in fashion and fashion illustration and Ed. You know kind of doing all of that. Did you make a considered choice to do fashion illustration, or was it more stumbled on in that? Were you doing or illustrations and thought you know, I just took em up online just because or was it a considered action? Well because I was wearing like, you know, these animated characters like that and because of the type of characters drawing it, I think the fashion illustration element was always there. I just kind of tap into it more as like an old Dynamic just stood what fashion illustration was cuz fashion really is the kind of the the preliminary stage of of the design process of coming up with your own design so long and I started wanting to I looked into that and I was like, oh design is what I meant to do cuz the beginning I probably thought I'd end up being like an animator or something for Disney. You know, I thought that was the path. I was going to go make sense. But then you know fashion was the calling I think so see a lot of people like for instance I do music, but initially I was going well because of the parents, I guess I was going down. The doctor pharmacist boots. Yeah, was there a different route you're going down to any point or did you always just think you know, this is me. I'm so drawn to this. It had to be the Arts in some way. I don't think there was any other you know, and unfortunately I had parents that really encouraged that cuz I was group didn't really have, you know, my parents saying that you need to do this or they knew I mean, obviously I can remember how long has only because they would say you were that age, you know, obviously I wouldn't be remember but yeah. Yeah, I do you remember drawing but it's just kind of they really encouraged it and and understood how I clearly just loved even like a kid. I would like pick up the scissors and make my little paper dolls and and make them are always creative. Yeah, like and just the interest I had like, you know interested in fashion dolls and things I guess weren't considered stereotypical masculine or you know more kind of girly things but I'm glad that my parents didn't really discouraged. Yeah stifle that or try and you know Steer me away from that because I don't think you should do Thursday. As a parent and also I think you should put a gender on those things either, you know, just to talk to just encourage your child to just be creative no matter what exactly I think that's the real job of a parent. You know, I've got to have my own I think the key and probably the hardest thing is encouraging them to find what their passion is as a parent. I think that's the key thing. You need to try and discover what your kids passion is and really push them in that direction if wow something that they can then, you know turn into a career great. I just think that's the main thing spotting creativity. I mean in your case, it might have been blindingly obvious. Yeah, because you know, the drill is amazing. My mom tells the same story over and over again, like don't give us it. Oh God. I hate seeing that she was you know, one day I might have been drawing and you know, she was kind of I think she was running the bar for me or whatever. So embarrassing and off as a baby. I was just kind of like, I know I just find like pen and paper like even if it was like Post-It note, I would just find some sort of paper to draw on something to do and yet she was running the bar forever. I think I think this before birth And realized I could draw but yeah, this was like them I guess her moment and she noticed that I just wasn't this name like she was telling my wife and I was listening. She was just like let me just stop and see what this boy is doing and she literally like life won't like okay this boy, I'm sort of I was drawing and all right, but no like so she was just like kind of a bit gobsmacked like, oh my God and you know took note from then, you know, like in Rome this is what he's into. Yeah, and I said listen now but like nothing to do you just yeah, but no like just taking note of that and she she I think I think she she like picked up the pen and just like through it's just upset the fact I didn't even you know, it wasn't yeah his name, but she when she actually noticed what it was I was doing was crazy weather and shamefully picked up the phone. Yeah, there's and then obviously now it's like, you know, I always thought oh, you know, you tell the story but it's it's cute, you know, it's good to have those memories I guess and and I'm glad that I had parents are really encouraged that and and so then you log To college. Yeah, so I went to one school ended and I was really glad that when it ended cuz I had kind of well, I mean I had a tough time in school. I think I know yeah like school. I mean I can't really kind of speaking to you about that. But I guess I'm more so kind of like, you know bullying and things like that. I think just being is crazy cuz I think now it's like it's not nothing but back then I guess maybe like what two thousand a bit more the early 2000s like, you know kids can be because it's going to be it's going to be if they don't understand you and your little bit different. Yeah, if you're not into the stereotypical things that I looked at as you know, as I said like masculine buffer, yeah, all of that stuff the stuff that right, you know, like all of that. I think you you get very harshly judged but it's funny now because knowledge is reading my, you know driving. I just think to myself now obviously, I'm probably you don't want to love. Yeah. I'm doing what I love I'm you know, and I've been able to have a successful career doing what it is that I've always done. Yeah dog. And you know that that 10000 hour rule if you weren't sticking to your guns, then you wouldn't be as good doing what you do now. So even basketball thing though for a kid to love something else and the like you say if that expression of you is being judged you stifling that ultimately affects you later on. So the fact that you're strong enough to say not you know this one into this what I like and off obviously going to have some down there's some updates but this is who I am. Yeah and be able to celebrate that now connects them that you are that takes some strength, that's good. And I think those people now probably see that well Hayden really actually did I thought that was him that way we always remember him Jordan. Oh my God, like look at what he's been able to do, but I think yeah, it was definitely harder at that stage, but then just navigate. I mean, let's people could probably relate to that, you know, like growing up and walk into into your teens. Yeah. Yeah, there's always there's always there's going to be something. Yeah, it wouldn't make something but I'm glad I never tried to change myself all conform to try and fit into yeah some you know, you might be on really dead. Really crap football player, right? Yeah just messed up cuz trying to like live up to someone else's, you know, Vision or trying to be something I'm not you know, I've always just stay true to really well. I've liked and things like that. So so you're glad to ended. Yeah, and then went 2000-2007 School ended and then I took like a gap here to like really just get back into drawing. So I think school kind of distracted me from it for a while back. I went into doing I just literally just came up with collections like my own Creations by illustration literally just drawing different collections all the time and built best value for college. This was before, so I kind of built up I build up a portfolio basically and it wasn't even strategic to go to college. It was literally I just really enjoyed like I started getting really into fashion. I was going to say like, I'm not sure if you've maybe that's you've answered about saying what was the mindset behind? Building the portfolio was your intention. Okay. I'm going to be in fashion industry and this is my collection or was it I just love joined this picture. Was there an angle to it? Was it just I'm just expressing myself know that was literally when I realized that I remember as well. I I'd send in when I was in school still and it was like it was a 2006 I sent in my illustrations to Bratz magazine. I've always loved Bratz dolls since they came out and so I sent in my patience to to the magazine and they put them in there they feature out and it was like one like the star prize like, you know, and I won like the video game and stuff and they kind of screwed. Yeah back in the drawings and my own designs for the dolls and then like sent in like a letter saying how much I love the dolls. I love to design for them one day or whatever and then they came back and say, oh, we're sure we're going to see your designs on the runway one day and just just really cute dog and encourage him, you know, very encouraging I think that can be a lot of confidence. Oh, yeah. Someone said, you know, no I'm not really good and I can do this. Yeah, it gave me like cuz at first I was like I was a bit nervous to do it. Then I was like, I like I'll just do a job. Apparently yeah, you know helped me all you know, pack it up and send it off and then yeah next men as an apple. Like when I was in the issue I was I've still got the copies now like to have like a cup of coffee or copies and and that was a proud moment and then took a picture of those. Oh, yeah, I've got them scanned and stuff. So oh, there you go. Yeah. I've got a step up but obviously that would manifest later on down the line. But yeah, that was a problem and then getting that featured in magazine that kind of game even more encouragement and I started looking into like Publications like Vogue and I was just getting all these inspiration from like different editorials at Fashion campaigns and things like that and I started thinking you know, when I did do my research off, okay, that is what I meant to do. Like I can tell but kind of things I'm drawing relate back to Fashion. I love drawing the female form. I love drawing close and putting together a look from head to toe like off the accessories to the makeup. Like I don't draw just outfit. I draw the whole thing and it's like I can put together a whole looks it's almost like being a designer and stylist all in one but via the are, you know, creating wage. Ministration but and I have the freedom to just do whatever you know, cuz obviously there's no limitations with the pencil or you know, and I love doing things old scores why like I've been doing it since you know the same way since I was kid so like, you know pen pencil paper off, but yeah, that's so so the college thing. Yeah, so okay create and build up this portfolio built up a really strong portfolio of work and then so a portfolio. How much work is in the as in when I say work, I mean wage like get pictures images. Yeah like oh God, I don't remember I used to go to to get the little packets of you know, there's a little folders and has little clear things and I just fill fill them up and have a couple of them. I'd have a the whole portfolio was filled out basically, you know, just just fill them up and yeah, and then I'll go through different different folders. I'd get multiple different ones and I was at right now with take this to the next level now, you know, let me look into different colleges cuz if I'm going to if I want to design then I'm going to need to go and study and so yeah looked and if I searches yeah, and some people are just going to draw no choice. You know, I'm going to go and well yes members. Well, this was before the whole social media think really was popping off like it was you know, I didn't have that wasn't really an it was still evolving. It was around this. I think this is before or maybe just in the beginning. I remember yeah about halfway through my career. I think YouTube was typing a proper and then Twitter. Yeah one of the first yeah. Yeah. That was why I went to really understand when I forgot. I remember I was going to do breakfast TV and I remember tweeting something. I remember getting into the car and my phone notification notification was like what song is this them to turn off the Batcave? Oh my god. Oh, yeah. Yeah that got turned off quick. Oh and listen, there's been so many moments with that again to that anyway, but I mean who would know that all that stuff would become so and Sookie. Yeah, very important. I think in just being able to, you know have that power to promote yourself and go directly to the people who would be into yeah and and and speak whatever you want to speak. Yo. Like speak your piece on something a certain thing you're passionate about or just sharing something that you've created or so. Yeah. So the ultimately that was before all of know that was kind of like the early early stage and then yes, I went into looking into a job. I'm different colleges and then I found barking and was it was like in college at the time but it was barking and dagenham now and I remember yeah, she took it to the to the was going to be my teacher at the time and she yeah, she gave me a shot and she loved the work and next minute. Yeah, we're studying there and I'd got my certificates that did really well. I enjoy doing so great because I was able to like I felt like oh my God, I'm I'm enjoying like away from school I come there's no, you know judging ya on the course that you would like to be on. Yeah, probably surrounded by like-minded people. Of course, they're doing the same, you know, same same place and same thing. So you felt yeah. I've arrived I'm home. Let's do this. Yeah, and it just and it felt great to not have any other District like an it's a worry about Matt didn't have to worry about anything else. Was literally just mashing and that would be the thing you liked. Right? And so and it was but then it was it was tough too because it was like, okay, I know where I excel and I know what the sketching part. I know that I'm strong at that and my children knew that but then there was like, okay, but I'm completely new and and green when it comes to like the actual making clothes, you know, like completely new. This is New Territory. So learning that from scratch learning your craft patterns learning how to sew learning how to construct things and making trials and and all these different things that you know of both to what twelve. Yeah, especially, you know, I was going to say no sir. Yes, sir. Kind of make a mock-up of the creation before you make it in its final form like in the fabric and stuff. But yeah, but there's so many different things. I was learning and of course had so many different elements to it was like learning about textiles and then you know, one point was doing artwork and drawing too. So it's funny cuz my router would know where to kind of push me in the elements. I wasn't strong out but then the elements I was strong actually dead. Uber is that plugged me to the client. Yeah, like oh like drawn-out Hayden draws off watch what hate you know, so that was kind of daunting but at the same time it was great cuz she she really did push me hard as well when it came to the elements. I wasn't so strong that you found difficult one element that you found out. What is this about just making things that make you things from scratch cuz actually having to but you're drawing things from scratch off like yeah, but it's different when you're a little kid having to So when you say making things like models of things so like when you're drafting a pattern and you have to deal with the measurement to make sure the measurements are correct and you're getting you know two different. Yeah. It's like it's more it's a little bit more complex or but then, you know well to me because obviously somebody might find drawing bit more complex. But yeah, you know, yeah, like it's probably minds of Plymouth whole nation would find the drawing bit like yeah, like, you know save everyone has, you know, even every designer has a different way of working some designers don't schedule at all. Some designers literally will just make a mark up, you know on a mannequin with a trial or they'll just drape with a fabric on a mannequin song. They can create design that way and then you know mentally and putting it on a paper. Yeah, try the paper translates to be over in a way that striking enough to inspire someone else to say. Yeah, I get understand what your vision yeah, you know cuz obviously some designers they'll let you know they're on a team of people and they will show that the team of you know, they the sketch or whatever but for me, I know that I definitely have to sketch the look at and do it that way. But yeah, that was my name is Hill so to speak so wet and you know did really well and you know, then the next phase was like okay everyone's looking into Unis now that we're applying to UNI and it's like off The Next Step, you know, and it's crazy cuz I remember I think at that point I think I did have Twitter at that point and I would think in the in the I was just yeah I did because I was juggling both College work and then I'm also putting out my work on social media and that was given it taught me. I guess to have good balance like in terms of like work ethic because I did focus on the work that I was doing cuz you know, it wasn't just a work in college. They encouraged us to do work at home to you know, like to build up your Sketchbook and do all that stuff. But then I was also doing my own personal choice that I put on social media in your work that you were giving in on your than extra stuff from my own stuff my own stuff that was sharing cuz I do love Druid. Wow. Well, look, that's how everything kind of you know wage. I remember just creating like crazy and trying to juggle both and I managed to do it. But for most people I know would be like, oh, this is too much man, cuz it's a lot. I don't think people realize how try and pass a course as well as long as on the side. It's it's a lot but I don't regret it cuz I feel like it definitely taught me about great work ethic and being able to balance everything. But so then unit Yeah, so basically start looking into Unis and then you know, my portfolio is even bigger now at this point so, you know started doing the whole portfolio review process going to different Unis and interviews and you show them your work then the work that you thought I'm past my stuff but then also the stuff I created in college. That was very scary because you for me I think because I'd had this kind of like idea my head of like, oh, we're in a study this specific place. I need to go to learn Korean fashion. I need to or I need to go to Central Saint Martins. These are the ones that way stuck out because they're the most established names or you know, the ones that are the most often found that you know, you need to get into to get to the next level and be like a top design or whatever closer to where you are in your mind. Yeah like to be and and it's like a, you know, a fantasy writers. Okay, let's the dream place to study and I remember going for like twenty reviews and stuff like that and had more respect. My sister came with me to like one of them and she's my best friend you guys that yeah, she came with me to wage. I think it was was it sent I sent my end. I think it's interesting is I went to and it's quite a daunting process cuz they have like, I don't know if they've changed the whole process now, but they used to leave like a sticker on your portfolio wage. What's a welcoming remember rightly? It was like they keep a little kind of sticker to tell you that you can come up with for another in the next phase of the review or or if I remember rightly might have been opposite might been you didn't get in. I can't remember that so long ago, but it was like they basically leave like a sticker to let you know. I think that you're you know, yeah, you can come to the yeah the next the next phase of the process, you know, and it's to get like another interview or something. But I remember I didn't I didn't guess the car and I just felt so heartbroken. I just felt like what do I do now? Like if I don't get into maybe a place that I fell that's going to take me to the next level up what what's the next cuz and and having to change like this was still the earliest age of social media. So I wasn't really like popping off. Yeah, really? I was I was I was still I will share my work and I was getting some good reactions, but it was like still the earlier days and then I remember going for another interview at another University. I think it was yeah ravensbourne North Greenwich there were in a different location when I interviewed with them, but when there and they dead I felt went terribly. Like I just I felt it didn't go good. Oh, but then I did get in and so I was like, okay, maybe it's because I think I remember just kind of re standing up for my vision package. And at first I thought okay the person I was interviewing mean didn't really seem like they understood that it might like a bit like a battle to some degree, but it was but it you know, I guess maybe I thought it didn't go up. But yeah for some reason off and it was it was a yeah, it was great to be accepted got the letter and then went to go study. How many years was them? Well this the thing I didn't stay because social media then began to pop off so I didn't make the decision cuz see in college it was different cuz it was like it was early days. It was before no one really knew what all of this was. No, and then once I got into uni, then things that happen with my work so many crazy things. I'd happening was what would you say is the key thing that Set things off and made you think maybe I should focus on this. Well, Rihanna Rihanna Rihanna would be a good reason. Yeah. Well that was what happened with pre-owned. Okay. So she was the o s a kind of like the domino effect the Catalyst. Yeah, and I guess just like clarify as website. I want to be a thing of like, oh, okay, just because a celebrity posted your work order or whatever it is, That means you should just stop studying but for me things like to get very crazy and had to try and balance because remember from college to uni uni is a little bit different you're kind of left more to your own devices and it's a lot more work and not having to juggle remember. I was juggling the social media aspect and then the study so it got a bit overwhelming and I was like, okay, what do I enjoy doing more? Do I enjoy having my own creative freedom and free rein to do whatever I want to and sharing the work with the public or do I want to still continue to study and then get certificate but then maybe not get where what you have sometimes have to take risk and everybody else different. So I think I think if you're going to be dead, Influential in any way or on part of that entrepreneurial spirit is you know, you learn up to a certain point. Yeah, and after a while you have to take what you've learned still learn along the way but what you've learned and elaborate on it do your own expression of it using the tools that you've been given through the education. So I think it's important that everyone jumps at some point at something. Oh, yeah, you know, so if if it's early on it's early on if it's later on it's later but do jump and investigate whatever it is that that floats your boat. Yeah. That's what happened for me. I just felt like I wasn't home. I don't think I was really that happy studying anymore as well. And I remember just thinking to myself. Okay. I'm not really I just want to just you know, even if things don't work out or whatever it is, at least I know I did something that makes me happy. And also what is walk out, you know, we have this thing. Oh working out is whatever that that perfect dream is in our head. But really I forgot who I was really worried about something in my life at one month. And I had to go away which meant that I'd have to stop what I was doing for a while and then come back to it. I remember someone said to me. Yeah, but you know when you go away you come at what's meant to be there will be there. What might be using it for you? Oh, yes. So whatever's not going to be level fall off and you come back and you just sit back and you can't over worry about things you have to do what you need to do. Yeah, if you don't get to what you want to do in your mind, they still give me something else. Yep. It might end up being even better than what you thought exactly. You know, just don't know how things can pan out. You don't know you really can't predict the future. So for me, basically, I'd posted my work or did you just walk straight moment? Okay. So I do hate do you hate people saying picture is illustration? That's the word illustration slow picture. Yeah drawing. Yeah, just right fashion and it's not often, you know illustration. Yeah, you can rock is a sketch or fashion illustration. But yeah illustrations. Yeah illustrations right fashion illustration. Yes turn off. Rihanna on okay, so it was but yeah time to write take the box he was up her but basically so this was like what mm in 9000 10010. She just started her loud error. So the red the red hair loved that was very striking with the green knives with the prestige striking very nice. And I remember she had just dropped the album cover and I love that picture of you know, the close up of her face as a kind of clothes kind of giving Jessica Rabbit Vibes and also, you know just grab its own information. So I fell in love with that and before that I was focused more on just kind of doing my own miscellaneous models wasn't really kind of I was drawing things and I was gaining popularity, but I wasn't drawing like pop culture stuff that much I was only during celebrities that much she was kind of like, I guess maybe the first so you're still has more more abstract point when is actually yeah well or just Wars characters, it was more so dead. Models way my Creations they weren't really any one specific. It was just my own models that come up with so that our moment of your Creations but then embodying that in a celebrity. Yeah, I'm doing so kind of drawing inspiration from pop culture and what was happening and I would I guess from you know being a kid I would do that anyway with like Disney and that's pop culture but then it's got the same time. It's like this is like the celebrity world of Hollywood very happening. Yeah, you know and it was it was it just worked out perfectly. But yeah, so I did an illustration inspired by that cover but instead of just doing the closed up and copying that picture. I decided to extend it and took a full look. So I took inspiration from the shot of her face, but then did an outfit inspired by the error. So it was kind of like it was like this kind of like she called it like a baby doll thing but like a blush pink top and skirt. I think the followers who who, you know, will they'll remember the belt the skirt had almost like a wasn't really intentional but it's like a at a slight lamp shade Umbrella song. Kingscott any kind of umbrella. Yeah, I know. Hello. Oh, no, but yeah, no start, you know kind of came out and then you know, it just it really looked great and I was you know, proud of it. I put it out and then the notifications it was just over like every day it was more and more like more and more retweets and I thought okay clearly people are really enjoying this illustration and she was so young that she has she's days later. Yeah because it was it kept on gaining traction and I had tagged her but she hadn't seen it yet. But then yeah a few days later, I guess for some reason she came across it. I don't if it was maybe fifteen page that retweeted. It was something the next thing I knew she followed me then I was like, oh, oh what's going on here? And then she deemed me off. Then after yeah, I was shocked at this point. Like I was kind of like what's going on here? Cuz this is the first time you thought I mean trouble register a picture. I didn't know what to think cuz I was just thinking and a dog About kind of running around a little bit like a headless chicken cuz I was like, okay, this is really kind of crazy. You know, I'm not someone I get star-struck crazy. But like it was just a moment like, oh my gosh, it is before I even read the damn. I just thought okay. She is following now. She's the end. What does the DM say and she was like really gushing about the design and she was like, oh my God asked me like where I'm from. She goes that baby dollars money like we should do something together and it's sick and just just going crazy about the design and I still have the D M. Now. I still I love I love like the Purity in things. Yeah and certain things you have just been doing something from your heart you love. Yeah. Yeah so much so that despite people in your school saying, oh you're going down the different part. Yeah, not understanding what you're not understanding what you're doing and then thinking, you know, how long to take a year out and still just do what I love ya and then think I'm going to educate myself in what I love and then sinking. Do you know what I'm I'm not happy fully at yep. I'm just going to do what I love ya. And then we're doing what you love. Someone else has loved what you love ya for her from the goodness of her heart to reach out honest and say, you know, this is really nice. I love threat of Purity through them, you know, you know, it's understand that because it's like for me when you use those words, it makes sense cuz she someone that loves fashion love you can see all the interventions now, she's always been somebody's passionate about our faith in and and you know, she's always said from even those years that she's always wanted to venture into those, you know world so it's and she's excelling in all of those now, so I think she understands and appreciates down to the station and all and and so I was I guess one of her first kind of I think I think I just stood out I think the works it out for her. It was like, well, you know, cuz you said how you got to that point you can see it's very different to someone else drawing a nice picture and putting up and then someone said, oh look at night, but you but yeah, you've done your 10,000 hours. Yes. It's 10,000 hours of drawing to get to that picture that was striking enough off. They'll say look at this whole thing. Yeah, this is really good and then react so cuz it wasn't just like a re-creation of just that exact picture. Yeah, actually me putting my own Spin and creating a disgusting fashion illustration. Hi, I'm Sasha illustrate exactly go down for you know what? Listen this is freaking you know, and so she really really was like, you know, I was really appreciative and and ever since then like she had been really supportive and just people need sometimes. Yeah. I remember doing another illustration. I think she put out her S&M video and I did it the station at that and she put I think she posted it but then she put it as her profile picture and she had a picture on Twitter for a long period of time. This was like a good month. Maybe she had a big help for yes. Okay. So how did that initial spark with the Rihanna scenario? How did it affect your side of things? Well, so once that started happening to go back a little bit just even before the router stuff. I started noticing like Blobs, you know cuz I remember if you remember Blogspot I had one point before I joined Tumblr and I remember putting my work on there. And and and I remember other bloggers who I still see now actually who have grown, you know at the same way. I have an doing their thing. They were reaching out to me and wanted to feature me on their blogs or interview me for the blog and I was at oh, this is really cool. Like I feel really honored, you know, so it was like those things start happening and then obviously once Rihanna side facing the work and follow that's when it was like, oh all I started to be on me and bringing not the female the DMS and emails that's when pres stuff happen because I remember I think it was like CBS New York. They did like a feature saying oh Rihanna's favorite illustrator and they did like a whole press thing and I was like, whoa, so stuff like that started to happen because of her poems the work room. I remember not long after that. She said to me she was dying hurt or allowed tour over here in in the UK and then she messaged me and was like Come to she gave me like a free ticket to come to the show and to bring someone with me. I brought my sister. Yeah, and to bring my portfolio and I was like, oh, okay, but I mean her exact words were bringing home and go cuz this is Rihanna here like she's hilarious but I got a sack. Okay and then so yeah, I went home and after the concert we had the whole meet-and-greet scenario. I just remember her seeing me and she embraced me. Like I was a little brother or something that is the way cuz I guess she was like, you know, and I was still kind of growing at that point. I feel like you know, I was this is probably not my early twenties like, you know, maybe she saw that Purity in me of like I like this boy like he's so talented like she just embraced me. Like if you said we took a picture on the pictures like literally squeezing me like it's crazy. But but it was so cool. And then she introduced me to her manager Jeff Brown and like he took my details and I thought okay what is going to happen? I have no clue. You know, I don't know what's going to happen, but it was around that time. That's when I thought okay the you anything I need to think about this seriously, what do I want to do? I feel like things are happening and moving but it's a risk at the same time. Do I want to leave and maybe things don't work out but something in me just felt like yeah, I need to go and just take the risk and just continue doing what I was doing to me. Why didn't do is I didn't put myself in like a box of like, okay just because we only shows me love. I'm going to just draw around only and become like a, you know, a random fan page. I'm not going to you know, I was very still being offered in what I was creating in diverse and just doing different things and drawing different people and you know still obviously showing enough to random because she obviously was supportive of me but the same time wasn't boxing myself in this so many things inspire me and other people inspire me, too and I remember not long after a few years down the line, you know brand started to approach me was that just via DMS as well or emails emails and like because I woke and Grandma tells me that I joined Instagram and it's like on Instagram there was an Instagram was right up your alley so visual, right? What happened was before I got I found had a blackberry juice and I remember I remember days and it's like I had a Blackberry and then the Blackberry died and my friends were saying to me hitting me to get my phone cuz you're not going like different apps and people even my father was at the time wrong turns of like, oh you should get on Instagram because people are posting your work on Instagram. Yeah, people people are oppressed my work on their Oh They'll they'll get over it to me though. I wasn't even on yet the time and thought so I joined in 2012 and then I was at oh, oh, this is cool. And then I remember like like celebrities that joining and I remember Rihanna followed me on there as well. So at least you follow me on Twitter and Instagram and dead. And over time like the following was growing and I'd post the work and then Rihanna was reposting my work on Instagram. She's been a real help but really has and random to work people are going to look. Yeah, so went from birth to many Instagram and Instagram is becoming a bigger thing and it was growing and then and then after that, yeah, I got approached by Coty which is a beauty, you know, how like a brand is an umbrella and then look after other brands. So they look up after it's almost like a network buffer bronzer. Yeah. So they basically have them Rimmel London under the umbrella and Remo approached me. So it's Cote remore. They said one of our faces wants to work with you. Like one of their faces as like at the time it was if they had a few different faces. I thought one of their biggest ones is Kate Moss and I thought hm it caught me Kate because she's not really on social media. How does she know am I mean, I just wasn't really thinking like I was thinking okay. She's she's very private. She doesn't really hardly see her and it's like how does she know about my work? Cuz I'm very kind of Social media-based and like she didn't have any social media off. Went to a meeting with them. And yeah, they told me that they showed Kate my work keeping the face of the brand for a long time, but she she was working on a project. She was going to put out some things like I shadows and like miscarriages and off basically products focus on the eyes. It's called idolized. Yeah, and so basically they wanted me to create illustrations inspired by the color palette that was in the products and the illustrations would be used to kind of help sell the the makeup and they'd be put into like, you know stores like superdrag on display alongside the make-up and bath and use for social media purposes and stuff like that and they said okay, you know literally in love with the work and she was like, you know, we need him really Rises. Yeah so Rises literally it was insane and I was like, no way I remember saying no way like I was like really they were like, yeah, like literally showed her she's in love. So after that, I think the following year we ended up filming together we filmed content dead. So I've got to actually meet her and work with her directly or I did in my own personal time for the project and then actually had to do illustrations with her and she told me what she liked and what she loved and that's what yeah, and she was Spellbound because she was like how the hell did he just create one of this ten thousand hours baby. Yeah, like I mean, it's all I know right now. It's kind of like she was really amazed at how quickly I could just sketch something that she had just said that she loved and and it was crazy because they really captured our first initial meeting which was really cool. So that's on YouTube like, you know still all right. That was like what was that age? Thirteen? I think doesn't doesn't doesn't fourteen. I think Granite Run the time all this stuff started happening at once. I didn't education of Naomi Campbell and and she saw she saw it on Twitter home. Then she damned me on Twitter was like I want to put your registration of me in a book that I'm working on. What's your email? And I was like, oh my goodness. So this was all these top two iconic Sweet Waters who actually friend majorly iconic who who actually would have maybe seen what have the whole K Mustang for a fact? I think Naomi approached me before Rimmel came if I remember rightly. Okay. It was like everything just kind of sinking us system. This is Brenda. Yeah, we're lining and it was just really crazy. And then I said I'd love to do that. What was cool about that as well as that, they actually you know how sometimes a publication or something like that they think oh cuz your work has been put in a book that's exposure for you, but they literally paid me as well. So I'm going to go yeah, you know, which is respectful business and I was just starting out at the same time. It was like I'd kind of become a more established on social media now and it was nice to get compensated, of course, so he was a kind of coffee table book that she was working on the time of all of like just her were like all of the photography that she's done over the years all that amazing work and he didn't come out to like 2016. So she approached me. Mm. Team, but the book didn't come out two years later. Yeah, and so I wasn't sure if it was even going to still be in the book. But when I reached out to I was with a passion which is a really huge. He's like incredibly established publisher. But like oh just incredible man, that's done this amazing book. I'd love to do a book with him at some point. I'll be good. Yeah, like I'll be great. Yeah, I've always said I always is a really good idea. Yeah coffee table book one day but just looking for the right, you know how to partner up and do the right thing the right way. But yeah, I remember reaching out to them and saying is the work still going to be in the book and there were like is and they said that they were going to be a launch and uh, yeah, I got to go to that and actually meet her in person and tell her thank you, you know for putting the work in the book and some photos and I still got you know, the factories they came out really lovely and she was just her like she's amazing level. She has this present. Yeah. She's such a a very she's got a very nice heart. Yes. That's why I said that has very like embracing like she's she's real and just real that's the one girl I loved. Strength and she doesn't know nonsense from anybody and she's very much about supporting her black creative and I just loved her her strength and how you know passionate she is about what she does. So yeah, she's really inspiring. It was just cool to go from like, okay Rihanna then Kate Moss and Naomi but before all of that because remember this that happened obviously years later once the book came out, but prior to that like around 2013. I remember I did a station of Beyonce. I was in like a collection of work inspired by think it was her Miss Carter World Tour that she put out and I started to come up with Creations. I was inspired by it and I was putting out the work and at the time she met stylist was following me on Instagram. I can only assume that he's the one that showed her but the next day I remember seeing on Instagram like after I had just posted the work wage. She had reposted the previous day's work. So she had posted an illustration. I've done the day before and it was like I was confused as I did I post do a double what's going on here. Like I was so confused, but it was actually I song. The topic said Beyonce and she had like this thought I think only capture was like a the blushing Emoji. Okay. I was like no way but it was it was a different reaction to like the first time that would like I think I was in so long. I just was still like I would require. Okay know what to do like a headless chicken moment. Yeah. It was like that was like I was still excited but it was kind of like Beyonce doesn't really she didn't really at the time. Well, she didn't really post much and she seems that a lot of her like a lot of her posts and the whole social media presence is very considered. She don't just want a knee and he's just going to yeah, like it's very, you know, strategic and plugged in and and thought-out and she has her, you know photographers that work with her a shot. On the way she feels it. Yeah, but at that time, she quite new to Instagram and stuff, but it was like she thought he really had shared one other person's artwork before that and and it was like a completely different style of artwork. It wasn't like fashion illustration. So I was the first and still to this day. I probably the only fashion illustration she shared on her Instagram that month. Helped as well then. Oh after that it was my phone was like and then and then what happened after that was so sometimes I wish this is your face. You're amazing. You might expect after that. I remember as well. It was like a few months later. I remember getting a message cuz at the time as well, so I'd had I had my blog I had Instagram had Twitter. I also started off. Yes, ya no, it was laughing cuz obviously you're putting different on all channels. So you're you're not overly saturating your the mark know, you're consistent am putting material good material and a different people are seeing it, you know, so, oh, okay. I found you on Tumblr Oh, I found you on Instagram. That's where people may have, you know spotted me from different platforms and seeing the work. So at that time like started a Facebook page on Facebook by then. I can't remember when I you know, it's such a blur cuz I think to myself. Okay, when did I start everything but everything kind of pretty much light around like 2009-2010. I was probably not Yeah, I create a Facebook page at one point. And then so that was growing and then I remember getting a message on Facebook on my Facebook page from Parkwood entertainment. Just Beyonce and they said she loves your work which I'd known cuz she post it on Instagram and she wants to feature your work on her website. So I was like, oh God. Okay. And the thing is I didn't really check my Facebook big. Oh, no, it was huge. That's a huge adverbs, but I could have really missed that message cuz I didn't really check my Facebook inbox like that. So I always think to myself. Wow, I could have easily missed that and then just that kind of disappeared and not so I got that and I was like, okay, so I sent them like, I dunno Beyonce at the time and then I asked if I could create something new for the feature like something specific that was maybe you know to some relevant to what they're doing. Yeah, like just something that's fresh. You know that nobody seemed so that did that send that off and then not long after I think it was like probably a couple of days before like my birthday at the time because like probably Twenty-One twenty-two. I remember now, but I was they they put it out and it was like my phone number. I thought my phone was going to blow up. It was Nicki. Everyone was like everyone was like you don't dispute Beatles at the other feature don't work on her her website cuz she was supposed to be on her website. It's like a whole page know it was it was insane and I was I felt very very honored and just very grateful, you know, it's one thing that must have helped on the brands reaching out. Yeah. So several the whole thing off again, like the domino effect of everything and that was after that was and that was after after cameras. That was that was around the same pretty much around Los. Yeah bugs. I think 2013 was around the yeah Beyonce thing happened near me approach me 2013 and then 2014 came out what's happening happened because that product actually came out during the week. I think the meeting happened the year before so everything kind of just was like aligning happening and and other brands were approaching me. But the same time I had to I wanted to make sure that things I was doing made sense. I did page. Just do everything because everything made sense to the brand from for my brand. I will try to build and and at that point I was like hey, this is going to be full-time thing now like this is actually, you know, left uni may seem to be going well. So let's just continue on the on this path and see where this goes. So the only thing came out in 2016. Yep and 2017 the Bratz Bratz dolls. So basically in the middle of all of those those years so many different projects were happening like different things Brands and and things doesn't sound like this time for you know, it's literally so it's like each year. It felt like something else is happening. So yeah, the brats thing happened. I remember I was putting my own brats designs out on Twitter and the CEO of MGA entertainment, which is the company that makes Bratz dolls song CEO. His name's Isaac. Larian millionaire, you know, he saw the work on Twitter. And he was like, oh my God, you must talented artists. I've seen in the decade. When are you coming to La when you come until a you need to move to LA when you come to La so it was like a consisting of thing and he was like, well, I saw a number of times a day or just once it was kept with this is public tweets. He was oh okay in the wac and tweeting me cuz I was doing like multiple different brat. Where can I was obviously, you know, I'm tagging him and he was his reaction was kind of blow my mind. I was I think it was like, okay. Well you can make that happen right now. Basically. Yeah come to La. Yeah. And so, you know, and then the next thing I knew it actually happened we went from Twitter to email he offered me the chance to actually design a line of doctor like five dolls a collective of Bratz dolls, You must have been like oh and the sticky moment but running around the room again, cuz I'd always dreamt of doing that and nobody going back to the school years of being featured and Bratz magazine. It was like everything had come full circle perfect. Yeah literally off. What are cool and all that achievements in between I guess this was taken me back to my childhood? Yeah, like because a proper passion project. Yeah, literally and I was in my element. I remember going to La house. I went to LA for the the first time such a great experience as meant to be there for like two weeks but extended to 3 cuz I was basically there to create the prototypes with prototypes. You'll kind of getting the Fabrics that you're going to use for the fashions for the dolls and then took an incredible process. There's a hair router. There's five different people that work on the outfits like seamstresses that work specifically on each character, but it's like doing it for humor for for Abbotsford. Yeah just minutes from you know breast size. And the thing is what was was, you know, great about brats and what I think helped me in such a success. They were very edgy and very head of their time fashion-wise, but they're just very true to what about teenagers are wearing. It wasn't like, you know, m g a y love about them is that they did they didn't try and create clothes for these dogs that felt like like dogs close. Yeah. I felt like literally like like someone else That but it's just on right in this morning or things that teens would want to wear teens and older like it was very mature and it felt like incredibly edgy very like daring and and Unapologetic fashion-forward. I had free rein creatively when it came to designing the dolls. And yeah, there was this amazing man that works there as well that paints all the faces and so he hadn't Paints the makeup and everything. Oh, wow. Here's the same genetic pool as you yes, so I'd always known about him. It was a dream to like, oh my God, I'm finally getting to work with just through research. She's not about yeah because on YouTube videos of like showing behind-the-scenes of Isaac. Larian the CEO going into his office the headquarters and and so I knew what the headquarters looked like from just those videos of singing and dancing and yeah and then and get into work with all these people have been there for years. Literally. He he's so long time to either way you paint the faces and he kind of brought my vision to life from each of the dolls and but then so when they do the hand painting it's kind of that's the Prototype so then when you build the whole thing together and you you know, you have the beige But then you have like the, you know, choose the hair colors and then they the the hair routing lady. She Roots Hair when you put the head it's almost like a like a saying machine like the way they do the head and then the hair goes in and it's it's interesting when you see it. But yes, I did all of that. I was there three weeks specifically to create that and then we we showed all five of the prototypes to Isaac and he was like Yep. They're great. Let's go. We must be a fairytale dream for you. I'm doing this but you must have had a few pinch yourself moments looking at you know, while you were there thinking. Wow, this is this is cool. I was in my element literally just I felt like just to walk or you can see you smile teeth literally and every day we was working but the weekends had off and those weekends our had off. I was like I want to go to work cuz it was a new thing for me. I I'm so used to working for myself and you know working my own space to sketching come up with Creations putting out illustrations, but to be in this working right when they gave me like a desk they had my own little computer. They had it was like working amongst all these creatives or wage That you know the deal with the different elements of the toy. So I was entering a different slightly different industry in a way like I'd had a taste of going to Beauty with working on the Kate Moss project and seeing my work in stores found alongside Cosmetics. I was kind of like had that taste but then I was going into the toy world now and designing dolls. It was kind of like a new my heart was taken me in two different places and it was like, whoa, I definitely enjoy doing this. This is really fun. Yeah, two questions one. Did you tell Isaac? Larian about the thing that happened when you were younger with sending you did you tell them he thought I think like, you know, no no no. No cuz what happened was I think had posted about it on my Instagram and my Twitter. I think I don't think I tagged him. So he think he was aware of him after I remember is what re sharing that when I announced that that was going to be doing the project. We shared the fact that said, yeah. I kind of you know a throw back and kind of saying cuz it's inspirational right? Of course, of course. Very inspirational like to say to people look don't give up on your dream as cheesy as it may sound. Yeah don't you know, I remember me growing up. I was inspired by remember the the one with Tyrese the On The Bus song. Yeah about that and I was inspired by that that makes it reminds of Coca Cola and all that was that was amazing example, I could do that. I could do that in London England, Basically, I remember actually commercial. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was in I was in Florida. I see when that commercial was it was like huge at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and that's what's so cause I like somebody who looks like me can see that happen and then like and that was so cool. Cuz I was involved in pretty much every element. So like even the packaging of the Dolls the packages were being involved in having free rein to kind of be involved in all their creative aspects. And so yeah, they they kind of come up with different mock-ups of the packaging and they put my face on the side like my so my art work that I did cuz I designed the dolls in advance before I even got to l a new job. Why I wanted to do looks-wise. So I already sketched the designs and then we brought them to life in Prototype form when I went to LA. Once they got back to London after three weeks or done. I still working on the project, you know emails and they send me the pictures of yeah, like as the stage is going once they go into production their show me the different sample stages, like for example certain things may change from prototype a certain Fabrics. That way we may have gotten in Prototype stage that may have to change in production sample stage. It was a whole process learning that whole world second question was end product. Well, you like your spot on exactly what you thought it was super close cuz basically there's a compromise because there's always production costs. There's you know budgets. I think that that big is take into consideration that there's always in Prototype form. There's always little maybe slight details that may have to be edited out and change slightly to make it cost effective for actually products production. Yeah. And so it was a that was you know, there was challenging Parts with that, you know, like, okay, so it's like being it's laughing. In a a musician you have your your idea of what you want your album to be. Yeah, but then you have a product manager and you haven't and our man and these people are well-versed in the selling of things. Right and I you know what generally works. So there's always that hard compromising part that you have ya doing in music history in creation and during the actual release But ultimately you have to say, you know, you've given you all one hundred percent. Yeah and you trust that obviously the company understands what they've been doing for years. Yeah, and you kind of meet hopefully not not Middle Ground. Hopefully, it's like ninety-ten. Yeah eighteen twenty you give you know, yeah on a hundred percent it was very much so and there were so close to the prototypes too. So I was very happy with how the end result they put like a little bio about me on the side of the packaging which was in pay you for that off you don't pay for it actually and I remember, you know, as a kid seeing other designers have their their artwork and their signature on packaging. I'm a doll collector. So I was always something I wanted to happen, but then seeing it is like wow. Oh, wow, actually accomplish this this dream. What's great, is that other people that like me and you know, or they have the same dream as me like they can see that. I mean I was hating can do that then obviously I could be inspired by and I achieved is achievable cuz you know, I didn't it just happened organically, you know, he saw the work he gave me the opportunity. And so yeah, then that happened we put the dolls out. It was an Amazon exclusive at the time but now they are also in brick-and-mortar stores. So they are in a shop called I guess department store in Australia called Maya and they also if I remember rightly remember seeing recently they were on Target in America's August. So yeah, so that was like insane and then also you do the whole PR rollout. Yeah and you promote and then you you know had a list of people that I wanted to send the dogs to and off over the years like even before dying breaths. I'd built up this incredible fan base and I didn't mention her before but Ariana Grande was found my work. She had been posted my work a lot and from like what 2012 so so from the beginning song Even started Instagram she had been following and and so I've seen her grocery see me grow like all these people have seen me grow and we really good. Yeah, so then there was a list of people that I've had in my mind a lot. Is that who I should send my dolls too. I've just designed so then you know, we sent one to Naomi Campbell. We sent one to Rihanna. I remember all of them sharing on their social media. And so that was huge. Like I said, you cannot pay off that no literally both of them were literally because they they'd seen me grow out of love. Just you know, this guy is talented. Yeah me think he's talented. Yep, and we're just going to support and I think that is so beautiful song amazingly, you know appreciate I was so appreciative of that. I remember as well like the Kardashians had been a fan of my work too and you know over the years Kim and Kylie had posted my work and stuff and I remember I reached out to kill em at the antenna asked her if she'd want to receive some the dolls and just like, yeah, let's gave me an address and North and then she posted the whole set like what you said have the whole set and really dead. Posted it on our site, you know still in my highlights on my yeah, that's good. So and that was so good will from people. I like it. I like cuz I don't know with you know, what happens in music. I'm pretty sure it happens in in all walks of life. But with your experience of social media, it's been a very nurturing Community. Yeah. I think that's really nice. You know, wherever you are on the ladder if you're up and you see Talent is good to highlight it or support it in some way or flawed in some way and if you're slightly further down the ladder and you're trying to get up and you are talented and you put in your 10,000 hours. It's nice to receive that that support and that little help up that ladder often does one does it does one? That's we can see it does wonders. Yeah. No the person, you know lower down. It's great. Absolutely. I you know, I never thought cuz you always a bit wary like, okay like like it's one thing for them to repost maybe artwork up self. Are they genuinely following you because they don't speak your title work in general too difficult. And if you do have your own projects would they support it would they actually cuz they don't have to nobody's obligated to and you know, yep. I may be kind of, you know, being paid to promote anything. So and you think that if there's no Financial, you know reciprocation or benefit in some way. Why should they be through it? Yeah, that's nice. So, you know, you have to applaud you know, like Cam and yeah because for example, you know, I know that how influential they are in terms of social extremely and how much you know, they get we don't know if you know exact amount but they apparently get a lot off of money to promote certain things open for Kim to want to just do that the kindness of her heart and it's kind of like a added incentive as well. I did an illustration of each of the people that we send them to as like a bra. That's a good song is a great PR Karu hate you understand it. It was you know, that was great to see them repost that two and three and one of her in North so she she said I said no fluff in her room lights in a room. That's a cool. Nice know any post didn't expect her to post. You know, Rihanna said to me. Oh, look what around my house I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. But then dead. How everything is the it just it was a double whammy because around that time Kylie Kylie Jenner. Literally, I mean she had posted my work before my Instagram, but she actually deemed me this time and I was like God this is random like okay. Yeah, she deemed me and she said to me like she had the project with me and mine like do I have a number that you can reach me on so I was like, okay so I gave him my number down and then I think the next day but you know phone call coming in from LA and answered it. She was like Hayden and I was like Kylie and it was like, oh my goodness. Like I was kind of funny cuz it was like, okay. I've seen this go on T. I've heard her talk about. Yeah, then you'll actually get on the phone is kind of oh, okay. But yeah, so she must moment similar type of thing in terms of makeup, right? So so she has her Kylie cosmetics and at the time she was doing a collaboration with her friend at the time. I don't think she's friends with anymore and she asked me to do some artwork birth. That and she had you know specific thing in mind that she wanted and he's going to be decision of hiring a friend and he was going to be put on the packaging like the unit cartons and things like that. She had a you know, specific kind of color schemes in mind to match the makeup and all that stuff in enemy and I was like, okay, it's very straight to the point about her business, but I I liked it that actually approached me herself. She wanted to speak to me herself on the yeah, it wasn't through. You know, the system will be assisting me. That was cool. And so yeah, then it was like, you know, they went into business mode after that in terms of like a I'll get my, you know people to kind of, you know reach out to you and you know, then we discuss about you know, my rates change all that stuff, you know what that's going to be and so yeah, and then what was going crazy is that came out just before the the brats stuff happened everything happened since things are belong to pay off a large like so you couldn't Panic. Hey, yeah a PR Company to get you that pure you would have to remortgage your house. Yes, you would expect a lot. You know, it wasn't sure what was going to take from home. The conversation but I really like it's just the beauty of putting effort into something. Yeah, making sure you are the best of what it is that you do within your your air bag in your passion your your patio your field and doing with passion and then other people supporting them. I think what I'm loving is the genuine appreciation and support. Yeah, and if not, very nice. Nice. It's very it was very organic, you know, like it's my growth has been organic and obviously by this stage my followers, like, you know, a cop member when I reached a million followers, but there was immediate, you know, there's a million followers on Instagram. So it's kind of like home that was an in to this day. I still think I probably am one of if not the most followed fashion illustrator on Instagram. That's a big achievement. It's it's it's a it's a great thing and all the Instagram has changed a lot now social media has changed a lot. That's a lot more often over-saturated. It's a lot more, you know, and obviously with success comes there's a lot of you know, putting yourself out publicly people will take your things and we'll put stuff on Bob. Comments or apparel. Whoa and print stuff that's happened a lot. My father was a very very spit much. Oh, yeah, that's crossing the line there. I was amazed see I was clever in getting a lawyer from like the beginning. I think I've had the same legal team since like 2010 good that has helped because obviously when stuff like that does happen and my photo is a very great like they always tell me like, okay. This person's selling away is this legit? This doesn't seem the good people very good. Like they always tell me like, okay people selling stuff on t-shirts literally printing stuff like like wholesale companies, they'll just literally just put stuff on t-shirts don't care package and it's not just my artwork. I see other people's artwork that I've seen on Instagram as cold. They don't care cuz they just think oh because you've put it out publicly is free rein. We can just sell it but it's so unfair cuz obviously us as artists we put out a lot of life, you know and fashion illustration isn't really appreciated as enough as I think it should be any way. We work so hard and then it's like people just take the stuff and just sell it and profit that's obviously never it's not so so yeah. Yep. That down side and then there's also other artists that I've inspired and they are clearly inspired cuz you can see it in the work. I think sometimes when it gets a bit too close in terms of inspiration you're copying now is it? Yeah, so then it obviously, capitalizing off of your kind of aesthetic some degree do they credit you some do but for the most part there's some that that just don't and then it's funny because whenever somebody else does say I hate Windows. Well, that looks like sometimes they get salty about it and then they start hating you like me your phone or just do what you do. I just I'm creating obviously you're inspired by the work, but you're trying to say that you're not his boss. Yeah as they get offended by the comparison, but it's like well obviously people are seeing a similarity there. Yeah, it's not me saying to people go and say and also First Cut is the Deepest. You made the first car? Yeah. So someone's going to say, oh I've seen this over here and I think I think this is pretty close to us. So I think in the beginning stages, it kind of irked me more a little bit, but now he's I kind of just like unless unless directly take like completely directly copying then it's a different scenario, but if people are inspired notes look at the same time and not too I had anybody would have about for the most part the things that I've accomplished and the kind of things I've done that people that have emulated. They haven't really gotten those same opportunities. Yeah, so it's kind of like as you age. I mean first off the deep places like you calm you've you've done something in a space. That was very unique very nice. Yeah, and it's been recognized. Yeah and anything that comes off to that. I mean, it's fine. We'll be appreciated. Not sure but it would have to be what you've done but with a completely different twist. Yeah to get its own audience. So it's going to be hard to take from that audience. You know, the hardest thing that anything is building an audience. Yes, you know once you have that audience. Yeah, I mean, I think I've carved out a little you know signature style that stands out obviously that's why people have been drawn to what I do and and and you know fell in love with it, but it's very I'm very happy to see other people in SpongeBob. The work I just think sometimes there are definitely there's definitely ice that have have tried to kind of capitalize off of that I think as well sometimes when maybe a brand or when somebody that wants an illustration done in my style, but maybe they can't get it get cold. They then go to the person that's not not quite but it's close enough. Yeah, and again that may come across Shady but it's just a real situation cuz I've seen it happen before, so, you know, I guess in some way of me passing or something, you know, it gets somebody else work, which is great. That's how social media is a business and Johnson. Yeah, I would have to mention Oprah because Oprah's house my work as well in Oprah Winfrey. Yeah Oprah own the network owning Oprah Winfrey. She has a a custom illustration. I've got a picture of her with it and she's like, you gotta show me the show me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's insane the amount of people that have been I don't know probably reach out to someone I know knows her. Okay and told her about my work and she was basically like you should create custom illustration for her birth. Make sure you get it. Okay, and that's how that happened. She was enough of it and you saw the she took a picture of it. Oh, yeah, and I still have that photo is obviously that's a huge moment where you're just it's always incredibly cool to see you know people that I I can't yeah, like like for example, but like, you know going back to like Beyonce I've seen, you know, like I've watched her grow I've seen, you know real about all these different people grow into what they are today from the beginning of their careers and then like to see them show me love is just like, oh my God, beautifully same thing with you like, you know, I've seen you grow you've seen each other for a long time and it's great to have that they you know that so that's why when I was doing this I was like Hayden God put hate on him mean, you know, thank you like you say, you know, I've been on my own Journey, but then seeing you like intensely again out from the outside can always seemed like all of a sudden. Yeah, which is why I like to get back story to remind people that you know what it is beautiful to see people in a certain scenario. Yeah, but it takes off. There's luck but there is a lock there is luck in that once you put in the effort Things fall into place, but trust me without the effort and the effort is so much harder than people think or take so many more years than people think without the effort. The Lubbock doesn't work Bradham. I have looked at the thing for us. All right? Yeah. She when she reacts. All right. No, so highly my pass. All right, but cuz they look I'm thinking now. This is really good. Yeah something stood out them. And what's about is you put ten thousand hours in yeah, and they and they like the the seeing themselves in my interpretation of them because it's not just a regular sked portray. It's a fashion industry fashion, but it's very but obviously I have a something that that stands out and makes you know, my interpretation of them. It's almost like so you need allies version realism, you know, and sometimes that some people who may not understand why fashion adition is they kind of get confused by that cuz I know I've had obviously odd criticism as well that people who say oh they're too thin. It's a bad example to Thursday. Some you know, everybody has an opinion. Yeah, like, you know, oh, you know and then when I've done more kind of experimental and done more curvy division. Oh that's not curvy enough or that skin tone is too light or that doesn't look like the, please everyone. It's literally it's nice to be an exact replica of the person. It's meant to kind of it's a stylized version of them. It's a fashion not going to stop doing this now, but now it's like it's meant to be a fantasy a slightly more cartoon. Ask a more. Yeah, just an exaggerated version of them. Where does the whole misguided thing fit into that timeline? Okay. So last year I bought myself. Okay. I've done all these amazing things. What's next cuz I'm always thinking what's next. I've always said passion is the main focus. How can I get to do? Something where I'm actually designing I want to collaborate. I'm not ready to start a fashion house yet because that takes it takes a lot of work and I have a different skill-set well and additional skill sets. Yeah, it's more so than in terms of creatively. Yes. I'm ready. But realistically this investment and collaboration and building with someone else that sees that too and partnering with somebody to make that happen or to do it the right way or how long would want to do it. Anyway that will happen and and very much focused on making that happen. But the focus I think for me as I was like, okay, I know that my sketches are my demands a high end. There's a luxury Market but then I know my followers a lot of them are quite young and I don't know everybody could afford maybe three thousand pound dress. How could I do something? That's a bit more affordable accessible. So you've you've seen these fashion brands come taken over the market and just be like huge. I was the one actually reached out this time cuz usually all the years I've happened brands are the ones that reached out to me. I thought Why not see what you mean? Yeah, like reached out myself and see what happens. I did and I reached out to nitin who is the misguided and he's like, yeah that that's sad when we went from Instagram to email and then we met up met him like like Soho somewhere and we had we discussed, you know doing a collab and he was dead and I was like, oh, okay, obviously as far as fashion the turnaround very quick from beginning to end that process how long do you think it was so March was when we had the meeting and then the actual collection came out in November, I believe and after that initial meeting with him. He said to me like, you know, obviously things moved quite fast and I said I said, look, I have a collection. I have a connection time. I wrote I have a I'll have a collection sketch to you by the next week. Well cuz I already knew what my thing was going to be about my vibe was and I knew same thing. Rats and I kind of knew where I was going to go. How long was the process with Braxton Just Just accurate? Okay. So that was way longer dolls pretty much designing dolls. Take like a year won't take longer than yeah because I am yeah. Okay. So I think I sketched them. Yeah, 2017 the sketches and software done went to LA in 2017. The dolls didn't come out to like my project had to come out around the same time. Is that November around that just in time for Christmas? Right? Right. So just just like the greatest hits albums just before Christmas time in but obviously these brands are very, you know, smart like that team member exactly. But like I remember the brats thing happened it took about a year. So the the ones for the human being yeah, it's fashion. It's way quicker do enjoy that that process is much. Yeah, it was amazed because I was oh my God, I can finally have my own collection collaborating and still building my name with an established brand. Yeah, they clap right with obviously some, you know, cool people, you know a name. Cool Brands as well like established Brands. It was so quick. Like I didn't expect to come out the same year, you know, I didn't know that quick, you know, but when you know the way nitin described it was like look past and I had the collection already sketched out. I sent it to him when he was looks great cuz they're based in Manchester. I had to go to Manchester to oversee like the pick the fabrics and the examples and all of that stuff and then it just so happened that they were filming a documentary for channel four at the same time. So next thing they're like, oh by the way, we're filming do you mind being part of the so like, oh, okay. So I think like a three-part series and they basically, you know, just kind of showing inside how they work and they kind of captured me doing the crazy crazy process of doing a collection, you know, and and I think it was cool as well cuz it's like, you know, I'm the first I think, you know black illustrator that they've done a project with like a collection. So let's call they've captured that for TV on like, you know main page. Channel that's a really good book. Yeah. So yeah, I'm excited to see that bit nervous. Obviously, you know, so more free publicity. My life is one free publicity thing. Yeah, like, you know, I wasn't that was just crazy how things work out just the timing of it the connections coming out and when the time's right the time's right. I mean it's so it's so crazy, you know. So again you enjoy that whole process. I enjoy the process and product was close to what you your vision and vision. I want something very nineties very clueless inspired favorite films time actually just turned it just 10:30 actually 30. It's mad right or not actually know it turned twenty-five twenty-five cents off and it's always been even through my artwork. It's always been like the styling of that movie so Timeless and I just feel like the plaid and the patterns of the suits and the knee high socks. I just love the whole look and the aesthetic of the month and so I was like, ohhh my fav collection. It makes sense to kind of you know Emilio there take inspiration from something that I really love and did really well. Like I remember actually the first thing that sold out was by the tee shirts that had my mom. Fees I had my art work on it. Okay, and that without you know, why those brands are you know t-shirts right? Hey, that was the first thing to sell out and I was thinking to myself. Oh, wow, that's cool. And then yeah overtime morning to set out and restocking and keep restocking. We had the launch for that when it'll launch dinner. Also, when I designed the collection I said to them would it be possible if I had designed like a customer outfit inspired by The Collection like, you know, I was gonna be like a a boy version of Cher Horowitz kind of you know, like the yellow plaid. Yeah Marais and the and Charles is but like with my version of it and so they made it for me and I wore that to the notes and also I wore it when we were filming so I ended up being part of the campaign. We did the campaign shooting the models there was a way to get into the shop. We do this. So so good luck sounds like just continuous positivity module to what like, yeah. No that was just it was a really fun places like going down to Manchester and doing the whole you know them. Amazon pulls then filming as well. Which channel for each time was the question called Hayden with you know, hey Williams times misguided know you got the right name for us. Well, I hate it when you say like that song and misguided in stores now. Yeah, so that that was really cool as well and then hashtag, you know. Yeah. So looking forward. Yeah. What is the what is there an angle? There might not be they might just be I'm just going to continue to evolve and see what happens or is there like a I want to go down this part with that part. Okay. So one of the main goals is to have my own label off in like fashion brand, you know, like actually having my own high-end label one day. That's the goal. Nice. It will happen. It will happen just about making the right mood continuing to make the Right Moves and making the right connections. We shall see how that unfolds but I always active in that I want to still continue doing collaborations and still building up my name even more also do custom instructions here and there for people certain brands or whatever that may wage. If I feel it's the right thing very very specific about why do and don't do so, they just emailed through to you if they're interested that you might Cruise or Instagram depends on however, they whoever's working for the brand. You know, they just however they want to approach you there. I definitely want to focus on the fashion and do more fashion design projects. I'd love to design models as well. Oh, yeah, that would be amazing. And then also I'd love to do a book about I've always had that maybe one day it would be cool to like we stop an agency in the future like where I can talent scout or like, you know find illustrate is that maybe you know doing something that's helping other artists like home, you know, who knows but that's something that I think would be as well. And yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's why I want to do or Hayden for those of that one or two people out there who don't know your hand off. All your hand is for your networks Facebook Twitter. So Instagram is at Hayden underscore Williams and it's h a y d e n w i l l i a m Just to be specific hadn't understood. Yeah, so I hate an underscore Williams and all the same on Twitter and then Facebook is Hayden Williams illustrations. And Tom is Hayden with reservations to I mean, you've just typing how you into the fictional Google. Yeah. Yeah, I'll put all that stuff in the description of this episode as well. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for tennis is really really good. You know the journeys even better when you actually you hit from the horse's mouth so too. Yeah, when you go to hopefully Inspire someone out there hope so. Yeah, it's either get in touch or along their own Journey. Yeah, cool off fashion illustration wage talk about online Grind from 0 to over a million followers very quickly and to Garner the respect from the people that he has definitely takes more than luck. So yeah. I hope you gain suck. Hope and spot somebody. Thank you so much for listening today. 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Go Away Little Boy

Fame is a Bitch

40:20 min | 1 year ago

Go Away Little Boy

"From workhouse connect in a j Benza. Vein. He liked to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky sex camps is the guy put the cop and the peacock network. Okay bitch. Hey, everybody AJ Benza here famous bitch. It is March fifteenth twenty nineteen half the month is over that means I should be half. Glad or maybe only. Half some shit. I'm about to take the rest of the month. I don't know. But I will tell you about my night last night before launching to the show. Tell me from crazy. I'm in my anger management crew. Right. And I like to grow veneer about eight nine weeks, and you sit around and circle Zoll guys last night, and you more or less tell people how you week win. If there are any incidents in your your week, and how you handle them, blah, blah, blah, coping cetera. It's gone along just fine. They didn't get to me yet. But the guy next me is doing his thing. He's going on and on it's going to long and no one quite understand it. So some of us jumped in and try to like elaborate on things that happens to kick things around and the guy who I never liked this guy. Let's call him. Perry. I never liked Perry. The first time I saw him. I could tell because I had that instinct that intuition that is curse. I could tell this guy. I don't like me who knows maybe Gogel made people do that. I don't fucking know. He didn't like me. So now eight weeks later and before he's going to begin to tell the rest of his story. He goes I like to say something and the two councils in the class, go trip. Go right ahead. Before I begin to talk about my week AJ. You are sniffling lot. I don't know if you have a cold or allergy, but I'm not going to continue until you blow your nose and less. I had no snot up my nose. I wasn't stuffy I do that. Sometimes maybe it is a fucking allergy thing. I don't know. But I didn't have any clarity on the Benadryl. I never had someone stop in mid story. And tell me the blow my nose. So now the old me would have walked over tipped over his chance. Maktum ahead and told stories all my friends, and I probably would have bought the guy drink and become friends. And that was the old me. The new me looked at him and said, I'm not gonna get up and blow my fucking nose to make you happy. Fuck yourself. I don't know who you think you are. But you're in the wrong subway train this happened to New York, you'd be dead finish your story. We'll talk about my nose next week. Now, of course to councils get oh agent. What are you feeling some fucking feeling man? I'm feeling anger. Well, no anger is not really feeling anger is something that happens after what you're feeling what you really feel anger is the second emotion. I said, I feel disrespected bam. This respect is not real guys failure can somebody tell this guy shouldn't tell me to blow my nose and middle of anger management costs class come on. They wouldn't tell them that. This went on for twenty minutes. Finally, the guy who didn't talk at all is really in the corner. Just waiting to talk about his week on. Get into what I feel about him because I can look at him and tell him what was wrong with them. But I'm not here to judge. He starts crying because he hasn't talked yet. I mean, this it was like a Seinfeld episode or Larry San Larry, David, whatever picked the reality show slash entertainment show. That's what it was like I wanted to leave. Beg me. Stay I stayed still pissed off. But then they called me today to cancels call me today to say, we're sorry. We didn't say to Perry that he shouldn't have said that that was rude. But we really wanted to tune into tap into your anger in which you feeling fair enough. I'll come back next line today. We'll do it again. And I'll find a word other than disrespect that I was feeling so I guess run the same page. But can you believe that? I mean, fuck whatever it's March. I tell you it's March. So one thing I wanted to add for all of you didn't listen to yesterday's yesterday. Patriot show about a touching tribute to my father. I wanted to even the score because I gave my mother one year and a half ago. I wanted to give them for dad because he died last week thirty four years ago. A lot of people liked it, very happy. Did it was a joy to to write and to and to tape and talk about, but I wanted to tell a number of you because a lot of you have similar stories about your dad or your mother, and I wanted to tell you guys something that I think I said this a long time ago, but I have a lot of new listeners, basically when I lost all that money and have to go back to long Alan and live in my sister's house, which is the house that was next door to the house wheel Lifton, and she we used to share a backyard together. And we grew grape Arbor in my yard and some forty five years later when I go back to my sister Rowsley south that great, Barbara, even though it was cut down the new people cut down the Arbor got rid of the great. Well, it still grows in different portions of the yard. And it's it's. Owing over these like thirty foot hedge pine trees. My sister has and the grapes are now in her yard. And she's now able to take the grapes off the vine and make grape jelly, and she's almost ready to make wine with the amount. She's getting probably next summit. But that's not the story the stories this what I went back to live with Rowsley and Rocco was only two years old, and I slept in one bed with him a single bed and my wife slept with Roxy and another single bed in the next room. And she was going to second grade and seeing the same I mean in the same classroom. I was and in nineteen sixty eight nine whatever it was. So one night I'm going to go Rocco, and I'm laying down and he's too. He doesn't know my my father. He has no stories about my grandfather. Maybe saw a picture, maybe. But he was too young to explain who grandpa the Manua met was so one night him I lay down, and I'm singing songs, whatever any goes. Daddy move over. What's matter? He says you're squishing the man home-ice question. What man now he's too? He said the man with the mustache and young kids. Look at you, very calm. Like, he wasn't laughing. I said this man with a moustache in the bed. Yes. He space in between us. Okay. Rob. Now. My father had a big mustache, my father looked like almost Sharieff or or how Lyndon from barring Miller with his mustache. The reason why I think my my son felt him on the bed some years before that my sister. And I and my father all had this form of ESP this extrasensory perception that the three of us had not my mother, and my sister Lorraine the three of us. It was insane. My sister there were times when my sister would be all eating dinner at her house, and all of a sudden, she turned and say daddy, the fish jumped out of the fish tank, and we had an Oscar fish, and it never jumped out at the time before and obviously be called an Oscar and one day, we're all eating Rosie just stopped serving food. It's daddy Oscars out of the fish tank. We all ran through the backyards into our house down the hall into the living into the fish tank with Oscar on the carpet flapping, he jumped at years before that in my childhood, my mother and father went to the movies me, the Raynham Rosalie ro home about an hour and a half into us being alone. Rowsley just goes daddy lost his wallet. What are you talking about? He lost his wallet. So my father mother come home, forty minutes later from a movie soon as they walk in Rowsley jumping daddy. Daddy. Where's your wallet? And he goes back poverty goes fuck is my won't what the foot he went back to the ADA somebody turned it. So my sister has this thing I had this thing. So few years ago before my sister. I had this daydream. I was awake. It was daytime I have this vision of my father laying on a bed the same bed. I ended up sleeping with Rocco laying on a bed and he's moving his hands in front of his face because he can't breathe. He's having trouble breathing. I don't know what it meant. But I knew I had to call my sister because we're tuned up together on caller at work. I said rump looking on seeing daddy he's laying on Jackie's bed. He's laying on his bed. Knee camp. Read these moving things off his face. What's going on in that room daddy camp breath? My sister goes last night the closet pole broke in the bedroom. I took off all the coats out of the closet. I laid them on the bed. I said get out leave work, go home and take the fucking coats off the bankas. Daddy suffocating. This is a gospel taupe, and she did it, and she's apologizing out loud side that him. Sorry. So Iraq told me smashing the man with the mustache, you think. I don't believe in. You think I think my son's crazy? No, no. There's another side for all you people who lost relatives or loved ones. Just know if you are lucky enough to have those stories happen to you. It makes you feel so much better about them not being around because you know, they're around. I just wanted to give you that little bit of story that bit of history because that part about my father's watch stopping exactly when he died apparently has happened over the people, especially people who believe in all sorts of numerology, which I don't know anything about. So I just wanted to add that, and I hope it makes you hope if you chose it gave me chills Christ. I have a few things to talk about today. Today's been crazy day, but I've been looking at the news, and you know, thousand things going on. I I could pick one thing into a whole show about one story, but the hallmark channel and Laurie Lachmann. Do I say, I say, Ron I think it's Lafon. I dunno. Hallmark channel obviously just gave her a pink slip and they pulled the plug on garage sale mysteries. Which I I've never watched. But I I understand it's popular. And now they're pulling her other series when calls the heart or they're putting on on ice for law. Put it that way. The prime time episode. I think it's going to air March seventeenth, I believe. Yeah. And the trying to come up with what they call creative solutions for her Abigail station character. And now that she's indicted in this big behind love operation varsity blues I loved I just keep thinking about the part lawsuit blues ca quarterbacks bang in the cheerleader on top of the washing machine. I think that's the right movie. Maybe that's the other either way. I love blues down put look how all the all these options. They say they're exploring saying, you know, yes, she's been indicted. But what I'm absolutely sure it's going to happen all options are being explored on how to take this already filmed episode and move forward bullshit. It's not trust me. She'll be out of it. And you watch even though even though the writing on the fifth and final season of fuller house hasn't started yet. I've heard the writers already know you may not want to write about auntie Becky as they were going gonna ride around or this year. You know, she's out. She's she basically just eat her career jussie smollet that his first name has become a verb productive career. He just is she just your career. But curiously it makes you wonder what will happen with shameless. Because of William H Macy's part. In this bribery, scandal or the upcoming show. He's on central park. I hope nothing comes of people shows because there's so many other actors and crew members who worked parred and need to need to get there. They need to see their work on the screen. It's not fair because somebody fucked up. But what happens, you know? When William H Macy participated, he was fully aware of what was going on. Sorry that he has a wife was fucking obnoxious and bitchy and controlling, but he no. And if you hit a transcript, he just kinda murmured cool when he was told of the idea and the amount of money, they were gonna give what gets me laughing is that. They gave fifteen thousand Felicity Huffman and fucking William H Macy because they're big stocks. Could you imagine how they how Laurie locked fields and the designer husband given half a mil I guess hallmark doesn't carry as much weight as desperate housewives or HBO? But that's a vast. That's a big discrepancy. Now, you know, look. Some people are very disappointed with hallmark feeling. They shouldn't have to cancel it. Hold back. The shows and fire the actors and crew over this. But to that I say, well, what did you say that about Weinstein and less Mon visit Kevin Spacey. Z sons Ari who are all fired or blackballed the second their alleged crimes came to light. No, you didn't on pretty sure. Most of you condemn them all before they were found guilty in a court of law. Many then everyone to quote a wall, but there were found guilty. So you can't be hypocritically here. A company has every right to protect its brand. I don't want them to but companies have every right to protect their brand and to disassociate themselves from somebody for moral ethical reasons before found guilty in a court of law, which was a separate thing. By the way, there is such things such a thing called morals clause. I've signed him. I didn't know I did sign him until the bosses e told me listen, you can't punch again face the nightclub that kind of violates the morals clause that moral squad. And they showed me where I signed. So those things exists and when you commit a felony. Yeah. That's no good. But the thing is you don't get to pick and choose based on whether you like this actors smile or their characters laugh or whether the sleazy guy, you don't like he should go to jealous. Not the way. It works companies got every right to sever ties. Whatever forget forget about what the public thinks. It's in the morals clause people for towns of doesn't have much morals or many morals. It is in the contract. It is in the it is in the fine print. Earlier in the week before. All this stuff broke set aside pot of show to talk about Richard Pryor. And I'll tell you why. Because just when just when you just when you forgot the vision of Richard Pryor being fucked by Marlon Brando or Richard pry banging Marvin Gaye along comes as ex wife, Jennifer to confirm that those things in fact, it happened. And I wanted to talk all about that. That's that's still use story. Whether you believe or not I believe because I let you ex-girlfriend, Michelle. Brando Marlins door told me an admitted to me that our dad fuck James Dean, and you know, she has done on good authority from her father. But there's so much more going on here. Part of what I love about. Richard Pryor is how or loved the Batum is how insanely honest he was and whether he would talking about. Basically how he would have welcomed this kind of conversation. He would have enjoyed this debate. And that's what his ex wife is saying that they'll fucking out. Don't worry about Richard being man. He would have brought this up on stage at the time. When the time was right. He would have met it head on. Are just too many people get offended by things the bottom line is. There was a time when Richard Pryor even spoke in front of a crowd a largely gay crowd. I think in San Francisco, and he just blurted out. He just blurted out to them. Yeah. I got my dick sucked. I'm one of you. All. And it it hurt. It hurt him that when he said that he didn't seem to get the kind of support. He thought he would. And once even get that support. I don't know whether it in believe him or they just couldn't picture, but they didn't they didn't believe I think what he was saying he went off on them. And it got really blow, and he was fucked isn't fucked out an N word. This n word that he went crazy. A lot of angry gay guys that didn't like being spoken to that way. But Richard didn't like not being accepted by the gate crowd. Having having already admitted any did that it was a weird night. It's out there on tape somewhere. It might even be on YouTube. But I doubt it it's out there somewhere because I saw it a while ago. And I know the reaction he expected he didn't get and it hurt him. So that's why I think you know, he would have he would have met this conversation on if he'd still been alive. He was basically saying to that crowd. Even though I had another man's member. In my mouth, you motherfuckers. Still don't accept me because some black. That's really where his anger went. It hurt her. And I was gonna go deeper into that story. But today has been a cavalcade of insane stories that I feel I gotta touch on for starters. Okay. For starters. I never thought I'd see a bigger beard than the ones we saw on duck dynasty. But here comes Rosero Dawson trying to take that title away as the biggest beard in the world. She announced today that she and the presidential candidate. Cory Booker are fishery dating there was that rumor known aroun-. I don't believe it. I think it's bullshit. I think this is Rosanna Dawson. And I think this is Cory Booker bringing along for the ride because it looks good for him. And I think it's her way of kind of taken one for the old liberal team. I think this is area Dawson making all Hollywood POWs think she may be the next first lady, and what a story that would be because Rosario was born to a sixteen year old mother a mother who when resort was five her mother decided to settle the family in an abandoned building in Manhattan's Lower East Side, all of us in New York. No this story they were squatters she and her husband. They renovated one of the apartments. They fixed the plumbing and the electric wiring for the building, and they stayed in his disgusting. Believe me back then the Lower East Side. You wouldn't have wanted a stray cat live in those buildings. There was heroin dealers all around junkies. Dine in the street, bad bad bad, and you know, resign. Dawson likes to say that that that whole lifestyle taught her valuable lesson it if you want something better, you've got to do it yourself, whatever it fucking movie stars talk that way, I just wanna laugh because we've already seen what people who with money and influence due to get something they want that's better like getting their kids to a better school we've already seen. So if really should've said that she spent a good portion of her of re youth shitting into a bucket. That's what her mother the squatter did for her. So I think this is all part of a ploy to make resign Dawson. Think about what this looks like even though Cory Booker has no shot. He's going to be up there in the primaries debating people, and if he gets the nomination shit can he be Trump? And if he does Dawson could be the next first lady and she'll finally be a hot black. I lay. Eighty because Michelle Obama was not I can't entertain that any more when you line up against all the other presidents wives of poor. She ranked the first three, of course, because what we worked with you. But you don't beat Milania and Jackie O is Jackie L. I gotta put Michelle tred can't move her up. And I don't I can't I could sneak up behind to overtake. Let's keep were three. And let's let it be happy. Rosario Dawson jumps into the fray in my mind. She's number one. Now car had married Trump. Then we got a winner. But that didn't happen. But I think that's where the going now. I have a horrible story to say today story that bothers me it hurts me say this. 'cause you know, how I feel about this, dude. But actually considering what I heard about him recently how he acted like you never heard of me. Maybe I'm not too said telling the story. So Mickey Rourke was on a movie set today in Hollywood on sound stage. And he was so fucking it. I've been told it was really embarrassing and said, I have it on good. This is not like a rumor from a friend. I know someone who was there and was involved in this movie. He came to the set fucked up did not know any of his lines at all he didn't even know what the film was basically about they had the remind him very low budget in b movie called legionnaires trail sounds like something you catch on a fucking airplane with bad air conditioning or on a cruise ship somewhere. Remember legionnaires disease? Fucked up was that. League Grenache trail, not really one you're to want to run out and see actually it's never going to be an fear. But you're not gonna wanna stream it. It's about a person who's a half Roman whose entrusted with the mission of crossing the snowy mountains are media swarming with party and patrols to seek help for slowly dying men. Now Mickey doesn't play this half Roman soldier. But he's in the movie with Lance Hendricks Hendrix. I don't know and byline we all know by laying when she's not acting. She she's yachting on all all sorts of yachts around the world. That's how she stayed alive. She's very good on her back. But for this film, a friend of mine told me, she memorized, all our lines and all the scene she had where with Mickey. Okay. And Mickey could not speak. He could hardly talk. And he knew none of his lines. So they have to call in a teleprompter operator and put Mickey's lines on screen now. This is done on television. All all the time pretty much. I had to beg e to get me on eventually, I even offered to pave my own fucking thing. They wouldn't do it. I said guys, I'm I'm two paragraphs into a long read of memorizing a paragraph for mysteries and scandals and somebody honks to fucking horn. And we gotta go again, you know, I'm three quarters through the opening of misery and a helicopter. Come gotta go again, put the fucking thing on screen. What does it cost two hundred dollars a day? I'll pay it. Then they finally got one about six months into the first season. Then I was a wiz. Because once you don't have to memorize your lines. You just have to know one to hit words, and you can walk without looking. It's great. You look like a fucking pro. But for a movie star it's only used when when movie stars have really long past. Like, let's say Jack Nicholson a few good men. I'm not sure even used one. But it certainly would have been offered. You know, we live in a world that has walls who's going to guard them, you Santiago, you know, that might have worked for Jack. But but for Mickey never heard of that. And you know, he just wasn't too long ago that he did the wrestler, and he was great knit, and Nikki I understood was not getting high anymore. But I'll tell you something. He was hiccuping allot, which I don't wanna get into that certain kind of thing kind of combination. I don't wanna say, but it's not good, right? And after an hour to that he eventually changed into street clothes and left six hours early. The crew was fucking adamant. I mean Mickey's the draw in the movie no one's going to see by lane. But something's up with one of Mickey's beloved, you hours died not too long ago. And if you've ever looked is Instagram page, which is down. Now, he said he was taken down about two and a half months ago one of the dogs died, and he really it broke his heart. He I've eaten dinner with him and his dog. I took my dog with him to ongo couple of clears what our dogs feeding on dogs fucking Neil key. But you know. Once that dog died Mickey taking my page down disappear for law. I think he might be coping with that deaths. Because he doesn't handle he doesn't handle death. Well, it doesn't handles tragedy. Well, he's a fragile guy. So I he was fuck up today. I hope with us last, but I'm never happy bringing stores like that with people I like and Meyer. But that's what happened today in Hollywood. You'll never see the movie, but if you have a checking out remember what happened make your show? Somebody else is the run around with while. I was with Mickey back in the day is in the news too. And that would be Naomi Campbell now reported in my star magazine column, which comes out. Think that'd be tomorrow or. Yeah. Probably moral. She's been banging the kid from one direction Liam Payne, right? He's twenty five Naomi's forty eight. Which means he's fifty and they started flirting like in December January she snuck into his Instagram page. That's the new thing the new things you don't spot someone across the room slide into that DM's. And then after they started flirting which was kind of public next thing in other at the British Academy of film and television arts awards and they've seen a couple more times. She never comments about her love life. But I do know that when she first started running around with the kid she didn't like his clothes. She felt like he looked like an asshole. What the way he was dressing. Forget about the fact that she's twice as age. She wanted them to wear better stuff, and he doesn't have the right pace because he's been he's been getting dressed by stylus forever. So she spent ten grand on new threads philan-. So we looked better next to her. Whenever they get packed. You know, and I guess you figure they're going to be out of few more times. And she doesn't wanna stand next to a guy who still wears, you know, still talk shirts, whatever the fuck, but she ten grand down and bought him some good shit. Hey, that's a great chick. That's also also on the touch on this Tom Arnold is bullshit. And again, he's telling another tantalizing y. That has to do with this college admission scandal couple of weeks ago, he put this on this on Twitter yesterday. But he said couplings ago, I got into it with for the tenth time with a hash to college cheating scandal dad at a big party. Basically, he went to Steve Tisch is seventieth birthday party at the Hollywood palladium and he went jaw jaw with mossy. Mo- Gini Laurie Lachlan's husband, the fashion designer who sells clothes for target. And you know, what I've heard those shirts. He sells for some reason. The cross dressers loved them. I heard I heard that he's made a fortune on shit that cross dresses where let's look into that. That's fascinating. Okay. Any apparently mossy mos- talking Tom, and he was basically saying shit about how agrees with Trump on some issues that people need to carry their weight. He's saying there are a lot of takers. And entitled people out there. Now, this is Tom just talking shit again because you always acting like he's on the spot Johnny on the spot. I'm not sure if that's true. But he did put it on Twitter and the papers picked it up. I don't know. But you know, it's kicking the answer though. The fact that like I said, you know, how do you think they feel that they and her husband paid a half a mil when they could have paid fifteen grand? It's unbelievable. But whatever happened to taking college administrators side and saying you don't wanna love this school. I I've always loved this school. I really love to spruce up the library, and like to give you a nice donation. What do you need? Can. I is there. Something all the computers up to ski. What can I do my husband, and I really wanted? 'cause next fall. If my daughter comes here, and we love her to come here. I'd like to feel proud something like that. Then you're half a million dollar check. Okay. That doesn't bother me. You wanna make the school better fine. Because then my kid can enjoy the better library down the road. But you just wanna lie about your kid being on the road team. Once you've never done shit with an or the fuck out of here. But I don't believe Tom. Because mossy MO is not a conservative. He may feel Trump's right on an issue or so, but mossy mo- Laurie Lachlan Felicity of been William H Macy on liberals. In fact, all the people rounded up so far are liberals. So once again, Tom Arnold is full of shit. I don't buy anything. He's saying as usual, and you know, some. Talk earlier. I don't want. I want to just go back to what I said about Cory Booker being that possible presidential candidate. And I don't not gonna throw politics down through give me one minute. He can't win. He's not gonna pass the primary as much as you guys are anybody out. There hates Trump hope could beat him in. Why forget Beto the fake Latino his biggest accomplishment is lost with all the Hollywood support. What issues are people going to run on to be Trump reparations fantasized the new green deal? What is it? What's going to be so important because I think all Trump's gotta do one point is go up and stand up and say on the only thing between you and the American voters becoming socialists. That's what I gotta do any wins. I mean, I know a lot of guys hate him. But cancel the Iran deal. Got us out of the fucking Paris accord, cut off funds universities that won't on a first amendment. There's a lot of things did that I'm really in favor of and then there are people think that Alex Andrea occasional quite is as soon as she's age might be might be a possibility to run for president this. Girl was making fashioned a year ago. And they still bomber was community organized. It would some panache style. But please Jesus Christ good luck handling all the keys to somebody. Who believes they can hang around till they're forty never get married. Doesn't want to have kids doesn't own a home. Basically doesn't have any experiences that make her understand how people who are conservative feel get it. But but again, what will Cory Booker or anybody push across infanticide is not a fifty percent issue Medicare for all is none of fifty percents. You reparations? No new green deal. No abolishing ice. No, anti-semitism open borders wealth tax, come on. And let me tell you some Joe Biden isn't going to endorse that agenda, and I think Biden is the only shot that they had to give Donald Trump run. I do because less when Trump beat Hillary. I sat there in the restaurant that drudge clean didn't own. But really made it his. His Smokehouse in Burbank, and I'm on the air doing a live show election night. And I got booed. I said, listen it's gonna get close but Trump's going to pull away at the end booed. I said let me take him. There is still too many people in this country. Who are Archie bunkers, and there are more Archie bunkers than there are meat heads. Meaning rob Reiner his his son-in-law. And I was right. And that's how Trump pulled it out. And I think in this capacity. There are more people that still love the last two hundred years of this country. Then they are ready to listen to Alexandra occasional call America garbage country. That's how I feel. Okay. I don't think that people are ready to just call it a day and go. Yeah. Let's give her a shot. And Lastly, I got a mention jussie smollet small small I watched him walking into court acting like fucking run things. You know, listen, some of the cast is supporting although I heard that not any of them wanted to sign a card for him. I heard some people in the hair and makeup the pun wanted nothing to do with this card. There's also a youtuber. I don't know why so many you to reserve black gay guys, and they talk all crazy. Let me spilled up tea. I don't know why why can't people just give you facts? Like I do. What are they gotta talk like that? For anyhow. I was listening to some crazy person on YouTube and somebody put it on the Facebook page some woman, I forget who she is her friend works in the makeup department, and she swearing up and down the marks on small. Let's face after the fake altercation was makeup. They put makeup on. And she said, they he shoved things in his cheeks to make them look smaller. I said come on. He went to a hospital. Don't you think the hospital will learn to pull the makeup office faces ridiculous? You got to be carefully stores. You believe let alone post, but don't believe him. It's insane. The most damning being about smollet is that he was willing to put two people in jail over his hopes man what he was informed by police that they had two suspects in custody. Discounts ready to testify against them when he found out the suspects. Whereas buddies that helped them pull off the stunt, suddenly he withdrew the offer to testify. It would have been great to cops may believe that if the consummate a fake lineup of bunch of white dudes wear red hats and call them suspects. I would love to seen who just pulled out of that line. They did not have been great. Empire empire the TV show. Everybody's nervous mall. Well, it's going to be taking listen em par starting out as an interesting show about a successful. Musician who finds out is gonna die. He's got to decide which one of his son should carry on his legacy. It's a great idea. It's very Shakespearian decent show. I love the first season Raji, be stolen and Terrence Howard was great. But to be honest after the first season it just went to shit. The breaking point was the was it the second. I of the second season they got cookie in a gorilla costume, and then they could Chris rock doing series acting as a tough guy in prison. Are you fucking kidding me? Chris rock being tough guy in prison. I couldn't stop laughing, and they only Campbell dating the youngest lion. Lucious lions youngest, son. She's terrible acting. And he's the worst of all lines that young kid empire was the kind of show that had the story lines of a really crazy and bizarre that it made you hang on for a while. But then they started stunt casting. And it's been just fucking ridiculous. And Finally, I missed Saturday Night Live. I don't know why my TV didn't record it. But I did catch clip on you to the Catholic church has a lot of balls for coming down on SNL. And especially Pete Davidson that skinny head about how little difference between the art Kelly story, and the Catholic church sex-abuse story, the fucking church put out a statement that went onto say the diocese strives every day to prevent sexual abuse by clergy from happening ever. Again. It concluded by calling the insensitively of writers producers in the cast of SNL, they call them alarming. Now, they're offended by sketches now. Now, they find it disgraceful. They're about forty or fifty years too late to be clutching their anal rosary beats said anal beads, but raise rose rubies. Probably know beats for a lot of cardinals pre. Let's face it. The church has tolerated this for fucking decades a century two. And now they're upset because somebody mentioned on TV listen, clean up your house. I replaced decades with centuries and maybe was spot on. I'm sorry. A decade did centuries. Take us look up ca Strada. Learn about the church buying young boys from poor families and cutting dick soft and keeping them singers for the pope. My message is live is this don't cave and do not apologize. They deserve those comments, and they deserve worse. Comments, churches, evil and Carney and no amount of financial political pressure should change should change people being able to openly condemn the ship behavior that Turks covered up for so long, destroying so many lives. Get out of you. Never apologize for the truth. Never speak the truth in it'll set you free sound trite. But it's so goddamn true. And like I said the day let's pull down temples, even if the temple falls down on top of us and finally story. I am most happy about all. I predicted this thrill the parents of eleven year old Desmond, Nepal as the so. Call drag hit known as Desmond is amazing. They've been investigated by thority just like we hoped for alleged child abuse. Okay. This little fucking kid dressed in drag dancing and his sexually suggested matter onstage at New York City gay bar called three dollar Bill. We member it how he was trotted out and pranced around took off his jacket. Men are howling in the audience. Michael Strahan's downsizing, the next greatest. It was discuss thing. Disgusting. And now this mothers crying the blues since the incident. Authorities have been asked by concerned citizens that will be us to investigate the family for abuse. So child protective services investigated, the family, the New York City administration of child services did the New York police department did child advocacy center the center for missing and exploited children, the department of labor the district attorney's office and these people don't fuck around. They make your life. Hell this is the end. This is only the. Beginning C, c for only yelling I do on this show should is getting done. Cape Bryan singer done. Louis Vitton stopped selling those t shirts they designed with Michael Jackson on the Michael Jackson's beat dazzled feet on the front. They're coming off the shelves. Drake womb? Sing the song. The Michael Jackson estate gave him in concert. You want done on Kelly's going away. Jussie sweats going down. Desmond is amazing. They're all going down. And the boy's mother said do you have claim the abuse allegations? Are unfounded bullshit bullshit. They're not unfounded at all. We've been under a microscope since early December. I never thought it'd have to breach my own privacy and confidentiality to provide proof that has been demanded of us out of malice. Shit head. We had unannounced visits in our home and all hours. Yeah. That's day. Go to the school to lady our family was probed. Listen, your son's going to be pro one day keep pressing him like that we were proud more intensely than any of the case before all Ella Gatien's are in founded in addition, we were investigated by the MVP, and she names all the offices. No abuse or maltreatment was found no regulations for child performance were broken. No legal activity has occurred. Yeah. But you're fucking up your kid lady. I'm AJ Benza. And that was Fame's bitch.

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Dapper Dan

Pretty Big Deal with Ashley Graham

36:20 min | 11 months ago

Dapper Dan

"As always this episode is sponsored by my Go-to stop for anything makeup revlon. Hey everybody I'm actually Graham and this is pretty big deal. Where confidence is key? Every episode I gets picked the brains of brilliant inspiring hiring honest new and old friends. Who are a pretty big deal today? We're talking to the fashion icon. Doc Harlem Legend Dapper Dan Dab has returned to the mainstream reopened his Harlem Mattila and take his rightful seat at the table in the fashion industry. Straight dapper. Dan is in the house. Thank you so much for being here just being around you let me tell you some you truly amazing well. I'm not used to this because I live like an cocoon for twenty years on you know I'm a real product among community right so only the last four years like five via since I came out of the underground have ever had a chance to engage the people. I'm talking to now. My only relationship with people who are meeting now is through books Other than that day when I'm in Harlem I'm Talking Harlem still and I'm always there so anything that's inside of me. That's outside of that. I had to get from books and so now to get real APP. People like the last since I came out of underground everyone send verify this. Everybody who's came. I and interviewed me when we're done. I interviewed them because I couldn't understand what it was about me that they found like so interested. In fact I researched myself self some. I'm looking up Debbie. Dan See. Let's see what people say about me and I come across this book and the title of the book is remixing the classroom this a new form of learning right and so this professor at Columbia University School of Music and he teaches the graduate course in the music and I come across the book and I shop at the book is. He's showing graduate students. How the loan? Based on what he learned from me from reading a New Yorker article from when I came underground I gotta go see this guy and see what he's talking about right so I go to Columbia University to one is sitting on one of those classes. You know no and we engage in conversation and I tell them I said I never realized what do he says what you did. The reason you didn't realize that he says because of what yes you did. People don't think about it while we're doing it so that's when it came to Mesa. Oh so this is what I was. Everybody's interesting the way I live through. Necessity acidity is what they're teaching as an option now. So they're saying that the open classroom is a new form of learning and processes about teaching yourself From one garment bag to the next to the met we had a ball. Okay okay so for everybody. WHO's listening or watching? I want us to describe the met for them because not everybody gets the chance to go. And you've been twice. Yes I've been twice and I've been three times terms and I remember last year when we met. I made sure like I was like. Where's that everything? Okay you good but then this year we got to go together while that was so amazing mazing. Now let me tell you I was you. Were so nice that I wasn't used to talking about you. Know you call and you'll call you have you and you invited me like a proper gentleman. Yes but that's the second I'm talking on the first time. Yes we met and you call me from the party. Also Colo- I was in. I was in a strange land. I know my first time with the MAT. I was also in a strange and I know what that feels like to go to the Mat. The answer I wanted to make sure that you were taking care of the mets seal. The deal for me in terms of fashion. Because it's two people. I wanted to meet Andre Leon. Talley and of course the McQueen the queen if I can be acknowledged by the king the queen that seals the deal and I must have the first time I was so nervous. I didn't walk through right daughter. I didn't get to shake hand eye. So how do we know you didn't go off. The you know the was the all over the place. That's what happens when you actually get to the met. There's a huge red carpet. There's Paparazzi on other side people who want to interview you and it's a little intimidating. But then there's always like someone that's supposed to direct you through the actual museum and I know that people sometimes get redirected improperly so my first time I had walked up the stairs and I was out of breath sweating out of breath and then boom. They're all there to greet you. The committee it. It was terrible. So you're maybe you're better off. You didn't meet them the first time but no with the amazing part was coming down the red carpet before you know you read the proper Wuzzy. And I'm standing I. And it's just me and Marco Bizarre L. C. Oguchi. Oh yeah and that's a big deal for me and so I'm looking around the card. Asians is back. Thank them with Donoso within. Say Wait a minute. Am I in a right line. That was like before I even got to to the proper Rasi. It was blake. I was taken aback. I could not believe what was happening in being at the Medicine Pink Tail. It was a very big deal being a part of the Matt and you had a table able and you dress everybody at the table. What was it like to finally be recognized by the fashion industry that they actually saw you for who you were an invited you to come and I still quite having gotten over all of that? I can't even describe it to my friends. So outside of what we even know. But you know what the big Tub with part about all of that that made me realize it is just. I didn't know how restricted the invitation soul. I don't want to mention names aims without. There was some prominent names that I thought would be able to attend. Weren't able to attend Alpine. You wanted to put it your table not even necessarily a table. I had two people. I'm on Montana but just the The Way I learn the things that I learned about you know holiday. It's a very exclusive party. Yes uh-huh yeah see. I mean. These are established like people in the industry so I was like. Wow this is a really big deal it is. It's the WHO's who it's the extravaganza and it's it's an all night event and then go into the after parties and that all turns into a thing as well but what I didn't realize and what I didn't realize until I did all of my research is that when I came in to actually design the dress with you you gave me full reign over designing the dress and and this is truly who you are this. You've been since the eighties. You've never told anybody what to wear. You've always asked people. What do you WanNa wear and I came in and I showed? Did you a picture of Riano wearing a little tuxedo jacket. I said I want to do something like this. And you said okay. Cool but how we'RE GONNA MAKE IT DEP- and we started picking up the fabrics accent. Everything how has your process changed or evolved over the years or has is this truly how you work freshen in relationship to fly and has a different twist to right. I see fashioned is primarily something that's transformative and fought to be transformative net that just transforming coming from me with to be able to transform people that address because I know each experience. I'm reliving the first time that I've been able it's address me and to get that feeling so it's like you know. He had a great high one day. and You keep hitting that high so everybody who comes you know I get. The opportunity indies transforming to me. That's the ultimate in fashion right and not only that it keeps you relevant because you are who you dress yes You know and then I give like safer instance where I gave to you. I'll let you play with your ideas and then I'll show you my ideas Right did you see how that came alive. I mean it was a true collaboration because it and for those of you at home I mean I feel like I might have been one of the best dressed. I'll Alan feedback from that. It was so exciting really. I'll say no I would just say it's my favorite Matt. Look ever. This is the beauty of all. Is that your input in. It was like a reflection of yourself. Yeah yes it makes it a person wearing your looks feeling more more confident. Yeah elect was there the other day and we just elect for Bizarre Hobby Bizarre and she was so excited she says I've never been able able to do this. I've never been able to come and get to wear something based on me and what I wanted and I love that I love that I think I would like to see probably a youngsters who come along have as much input that I think designers have tendency to be too into themselves. We need them to be creative. And to emanate these ideas from the Selva. We need to embrace as well. I think I had a lot to do with certain brands that been been around forever and they lose connection to the people who they serve but yes. I think that's what kept me relevant over the years we've when you've transcended so many different cultures and Looks and you've just come to you and now talking about the creative process. I WanNa talk about how you actually got here today. And there's a quote in your memoir that I love and it was. I was having trouble so in my life together so God made me a Taylor. Yes exactly exactly how I found. The true secrets of life is not only the ability to make yourself happy but to be able to instill happiness into the world and fashion. Allow me to do that. I was remember when I was in the street and willing to streets in the subculture in in a drill culture culture and they had a drug sweep right and in this drug sweep. It took all a whole lot of young people out of the community unity. WHO's selling drugs? But this was just one young girl who never saw drugs right. She refused to and everybody in her circle. Did I go up to USA. While they took everybody took all your friends she was fifteen years old and she told me she say that's what happens to people who make money off other people's Soros. There was a need with me and I talk about that in the book. That is so mazing you know and so I'll say it if I ever do some I'm what do I WANNA do. Something like fashion through fresh. I can make people feel good about themselves which is the opposite. You know to what I've seen. That's why I'm so happy about everything that I'm doing now is opposite to what I it felt too. I mean just being on the side of it and that's why I feel like anybody who walks into your until may make them feel like family immediately automatically. You have family working with you. You have family who you have people working with you who aren't family. Who feel like they're family? And then you're automatically family when you JOAQIN. I mean it's it's a sense of community. Is that how. Also you were raised to just have a sense of community around you hall of you know. Today is is the community but I grew up in the Harlem. That was a village. You know you hear people say it takes a village and yes it does take a bill like I think Martin Luther King was. The one says like eleven o'clock Sunday morning was America's most segregated hour and recently said that not an relationship into racism. Anything is just eleven o'clock Sunday morning in Harlem. You see everybody I mean. Virtually everybody leaving houses go into to the different churches. It was like so beautiful man. Now you go to home today. We have these huge anybody visiting home. Please take notice to these huge churches. We have these churches. Riches was full full of worshiping people. That's the Holland that I grew up in Nashville and so I'm used to that kind of community you know I'm I'm used to village atmosphere and I never allow myself not to have that so even now now I have this luxury still at home. You will find me standing on the corner in front of my store. I know people community. The average person in my community can't afford the luxury stuffed one but I want them to know that I'm a part of them. So that's why you see me. Stay on on the corner greeting people and talking to people and saying how do people is beautiful supported with us think the communities should be like and what the community that raise men open door an open open hand. What was your style like before you were standing out on the storefront greeting everybody? What was must back even in the seventy S? What was your style like which you see? Today is a modification of what must. I always like back. Then you know I like with Alexandro. Does he like as the flair to it. 'cause it's always what we did if there's anything I. Personify is our culture and how we relate relate to traditional looks and I did a lot of research on this is the zoot suit. What is that one? Look like. The zoot suit okay. Let's a I. zoot suit is so significant because it's a reflection of our culture and is due suits is. Today is the way that I have done with the the major brands that we are re remixed the major brands so at the great ballrooms back then when they was dancing in the ball everybody would dance but Disclose that they win was in suitable for the dance so as to tie back they pass it tied at their and in tail has got on. And say let's just make the suit light debt. So they designed zoot suits defeat the way they were dancing right. This combination of music took place where dizzy. Gillespie and all the Great Jazz. Mrs Just went down to Cuba and developed this music with the Afro Cubans that Africa Call Afro Cuban jazz right so the Cubans picked up the zoot suit suit right and the Cubans took it into Mexico. So the Mexicans picked it up and took it into California. And that's when you sort of zoot suits in California Says this this this historic the biggest historical thing that I could draw on. That would explain you know this. Cultural new phenomenon is taking place with hip hop in Gucci which took place in the hip hop in the major brands. But this amazing thing happened right. The same controversy that took the place with the Gucci. And every in the brand's took place with the zoo suits because this took place like World War Two now. zoot suit says like United States. Government is saying we don't have enough fabric because Zeus take so much fabric right. Yeah so anybody got caught win as zoot suit was considered un-american. This has gone this. This is deep on America. And that's what generated desert suits riots. Maybe you see me with the like Gucci zoot suit Fashion Fashion Azazel. Because if if you look deep enough into it you can extract so when you rich stories just like when you were in Liberia and you met that Taylor exactly please. Can you tell us about that time because I feel like this was a moment. That kind of started to shape important because Growing up like OH industries with all of the street traits. The Criminal Street traits and just decided that I didn't want to be part of that no more than I just left and Taffeta and while I'm traveling around Africa You know naturally with had my debit you know my little depollute and I and I get to Liberia. I had went into Zaire. Which is the Congo now Kashasa and for the rumble in the jungle when Mohammed Lives Fighting George Foreman and the first time in Africa? That right that was my second time I was just saying okay. So leave homes. Are you go to Lagos Nigeria. And then I ended up in Liberia. So I'm what last Labrador trips. So I said let me get some artifacts so going out to the market that gets amount of tracks right. I'm looking at all. The facts like dislike that and the African entail is looking at me up but they say I like your clothes I said. Oh Yeah I'll say you WANNA trade you say I ran up in a hotel. Got All my luggage. I need becoming back. United States closed that I got from the United so I came back traded all michaels off for the artifacts which having my brownstone today and in addition to that I had to make me close and this is where the Dapper Dan style. This is why you see him. He say are black or African is it so what I did was with the fabrication. They had there and the styles that African Americans will United States. I bought that combination together and had to make me things. And that's what I came back with and that thought never left definitely so when I came back later on when I decided to go into fashion I develop that idea and therefore dapper Dan was born. Would you say and there's another story that I really like in the memoir too because because it's like you took yourself from Africa and then here you are. You're still designing I just and a young man comes in and he's got an LV bag and starts. They're just dead. You know the big thing about that. When I changed my life and you study religion the further you go back into religion and it all vanishes into symbolism so I was like really studying a lot of symbolism so when this guy comes in my store now and this is not just a regular guy this big guy? This says jags Jackson Jag. Jackson was the most important person that come behind. Nikki bonds and and Bumpy Johnson. Those Really Anti Heroes Come on Harlem right here. He's one of my customers right so he comes in with this Louis Vuitton Pouch full of hundred dollar bills. I'M GONNA pulse everybody's excited. This is Jack you know and everybody gets excited about that pouch. I'M GONNA say why are they so about their power but follows six dollars worth the vital but what I notice was the symbols on it is what makes the difference. It's the symbols. You know the L. V. The variation of the Eastern Cross in on me I said. Oh that's what it is right. Imagine if I can take those symbols and create outfits that have them looking like them bags And then the whole idea was born from that point on I taught myself textile printing so that I can you know initially I I said I gotta get them symbols right away so one boy Gucci Bags and Louis Base and cut him up. I say but just like a work again. I have no by look walking looking like plastic man garment Arma bags. Yeah because of that hard vinyl so I said yes I said I have to teach myself how to do this and put this on leather and put this on fabric so then after I read books go into particular trade shows today you know. Industrial Trade Show today could teach myself how to print on leather and different facts. That I came up with this concept. uh-huh kept secret where I can put let them. And then the whole Dan idea this whole new luxury brands was born. And then this is where you got the actual title of the father of Logo. Yes and I was so excited about that. I think one of my greatest moments was being at the Museum of Modern Art and a curator at the museum on art. Says to me said that you are. The most significant person for fashion motifs of the the twentieth century almost fell out. That was like so amazing. It's it's amazing how the artistic community is more welcoming than legitimate community man so that was like a big moment for me. Well how long have you been doing this five years. Thirty because Daffy seventy five sorry I put you on the blast but this it's remarkable to see how long yes you have been doing this thirty five years. The big thing is like I want everybody notice. The most important thing is so always. Prepare yourself to start over. STAY IN SHAPE EAT right exercise exercise you know one of my favorites authors is Professor Hilton wholesome the first book I read by Him with his own mass higher consciousness and in that he points out he said every resell in your body and this was like sixty eight sixty nine I was reading. He said every cell in your body will be replaced you know and then he goes into how to regenerate the body right and this is something. Scientists wasn't even saying this is like the high mother physics. This guy was part of the society so not donate all of those guys you know. Take me back to when you first opened your store in Harlem. Do you remember who first customer was of course because there was local. Oh so you know but the actual person No not exactly I can tell you the first person with money who is a lose. Please let us know that. Would that would have to be checked with the big money. Didn't have any money back then. They was just starting out rap. Rap Rap. Music was just. It was the birth of the age of the Rep and he worked with all of the top rappers hustlers athletes all of them deal. Woah might be a really hard question for you just because it would be hard one for me as well but do you have a favorite look from the eighties or nineties. You designed do. I have a favorite outfit. Ah Yes the most popular one I would consider my most favorite is actually three. But let me tell you why the outfits that I I did for Eric. B Anwar Kim. It looks royal. It's golden black. Looks Royal but most significant thing about it is you can tell from those outfits that I was reflecting who my customers was and that just something I was designed so rod. Kim Is the five percenter so on the back of Kim's jacket I put five percent aside which he wanted Eric. B wasn't a five percent so I put the Gucci of Patch on the back of him as a reflection of who they are and those are the two jackets that are in. The office are look up to but in addition to that I think the most popular of all time is the Louis Vuitton snorkeled that I did for a what we call a boy. Wonder one of the guys who who style just defines a particular age group. And that was like a guy called alone Alberto Martinez Alpo you know and and the jacket that most people identify with hours to snorkel because the snorkel was Louis Vuitton by the solve plunge leather with the printing this that was phenomenal. So those three hours really defined at age. And then you're in your brownstone. What was in a Brownstone? It is brown sooner but the first one was at Brownstown well yes is still have it. Yeah wow now I want to Political Stage two and I was trying to get people to understand that justification was coming home but I couldn't get the community on this planet. It took it upon myself to buy a Brownstone pay fifty thousand dollars food back then and today were four million dollars just to show you know. Aw So ten years after having your first store now we've got Mike Tyson and green and Mike Close Mitch's I if he close. Close it Evan. Here they are in your till Ya causing all kinds of trouble not mad beef. That changed the whole. It was the best of times it was the worst attack. The best described 'cause when I was under the radar none of the brands will Aware of what I was doing or how I was doing it and then all of a sudden his teenage champion heavyweight champion is one of my main customs and this is interesting because I just had a conversation whether they this is how I met Naomi. Campbell really yeah. She was nineteen. She came to the store with Mike. Tyson Yeah Nineteen Dan. We talk about a whole career. You know these separate staircases that we took and that's a whole nother subject. Because Naomi Campbell was on all the way up that staircase and I was on my way appeal appeal the staircase and so yeah. Mike Tyson came with home. He came with Miss America The second biggest black America how now my cousin and they get into a discussion of generate excitement right so here in Michigan had fort Professionally in the ring and Mitch. Green wasn't happy about the outcome in terms of money as well as he didn't feel might beat him so I had. I'm waiting on Mike. I just made a jacket from Mike Tyson. This call don't believe the hype and all the hype and the World Jonquil. The that's what it was written on the back as you want it on the back. Don't believe the hype. I didn't realize that he's getting ready to hype me out of the market. Yeah so Thanks Mike Yeah Mitch. Green heard Mike Tyson. Jozy he come over store so the kids in the neighborhood say year Mike Tyson. Whip Your Butt. He's over the store now and that's what brought him there that night. Yes two thirty in the morning and I was waiting for him to come. Pick up Jackie because you know he's open twenty four hours a day see on sixty five days straight. Your customer service is impeccable. At all times so that turned into a street. Brawl started store without the next morning. This all over all the major publications and then all the brands begin to say who is the Dan. Didn't they all converged. Only and he had to work underground for twenty years. You've breath twenty years underground and then was it. Twenty years underground and then in two thousand seventeen is when Gucci had redone. The Diane Dixon Jacket Amazing Story when you look at if you look at the whole picture Community and people of Color communities throughout the world was up in arms. When they saw it was social media came about they finally found out will all these major brands? These ideas came from because they were poaching. Your ideas ideas even have social media at this point or was it your grandson at showed it to you. Well you know what I only say that because I know your grandson and I know he runs your social media now. Yeah Yeah. My grandson was involved in social media but my son knew how my son Gilani he knew more about what involved. It's you know. I knew nothing about black twitter. Social she media now now where my son Gilani and other Sunday junior they would teach me you know like this is the new thing and then when I because I saw Tom Ford I saw. Aw Marc Jacobs. I saw that they would use my my ideas as far back as two thousand and out here was two thousand. Seventeen two thousand I. I had avoids so I didn't challenge anything so social media was your voice in social media became a voice and stood up for. You stood up for me. I would have call this a blessing in disguise. What do you call this? I call it a miracle. Miracle 'cause like transformed my whole life. Transfer transform all life and and to see this while I'm still eating. Embryo even is amazing thing. What is your partnership with Gucci? Look like today be on anything could ever expect and I tell people this all the time. This on the ship is so miraculous that is more like a dream than reality. Not so much like a dream I told my. I don't get you close to me because if you pinch me and wake up. We'll tell you yes. So this whole thing Gucci right I have. Skepticism is a in the beginning. Because I said why would they reach out like that. But then when I read up on Marco Bizarre and I read up on in Alexandria and talked to him and find out the parallels between how Alexandra was coming up and what he faced as being a gay guy in Italy during the eighties and he told me his story. And I'm a black guy growing up in Harlem during the eighties. You know it's just society conflicts conflicts in different ways but it was the same type of conflict when you look at the bottom line and that influenced him and this influenced me. And then Marco go is brilliant because Markle knew that the age of cultural diversity and inclusivity has to be it has has to happen. It's inevitable so between them two. They led the charge to change the whole thing. You know so I'm I'm very. I'm very happy about the deal. I'm I'm happy for you. I think I mean when you walk in and you see Gucci everywhere in your Tillie A it's a telltale sign that they they are in a true collaboration with you as well. So you talk about in your memoir this time. That made me cry. Because maybe it's because I'm hormonal right now but it was about a time that you and your dad judge went suit shopping. Oh yes you can read. That's the most powerful moment in my life. You know I really had to reflect on it and I constantly reflect on. This is never been a time when that wasn't relevant to who I'm talking to. Who are meeting that goes with me everywhere? Man Man I remember see my father came from the cell you know and he only went to the third great so that was like an right after reconstruction American reconstructions right and he came up and he never. We never saw any family and I could understand it. Did you leave home with twelve years. Old People really need to read on the stand that my father living with twelve Bob Dole but with my father came in one thousand nine hundred twelve years ago that was right during reconstruction when African a bogus was leaving south because you know the racial turmoil in the Cuckoo fans on things so those were the strongest people who love but that was a typical thing for people. Call Him to leave at that age and come up you you know but he only wants. It was able to go to the third grade for you left so when he gets up teaches self how to read and and did a good job pretty good job and then we're going. I want to buy a suit one day right and it's going to be on credit. I took the contracts. He did. Let me see coach. I'll take the contract and read it and at this time I was in eighth grade. You know mathematical equation of figuring out how much he was going to have to pay. I said dead. Nobody's man it's GonNa cost three times ago so we're leaving store and going down staircase right and father starts meet midway going down in tears welling up in his eyes boy. Don't you know you could read you say boy you could read and at that moment. I didn't understand what he meant but as a as a change but I changed my life right after that deal I remember what he said and I read my way out of every problem that I've ever been into a read my way into fashion. I read my way into gambling and let nothing. Stop me for whatever I learned. I went and got a book you know. I think that's it's so remarkable to hear you and all the interviews. I've listened to memoir that I the parts that I did. Read your true true educator who are about educating yourself knowing your history knowing where you come from knowing what you're walking into you want to know about people everything everything. I've never did recreational reading or even know what that is always did directional reading. What is it that I need to know? What books do after we take him in that? Been Religion Legion politics. And it's all relevant so and you see you're on the breakfast club. I needed to be able to know these things to relate to this generation. What this this partnership meant would be in Gucci you know? How do you have a boycott? You know how do you. How do you boycott brand and you get nothing you walk away from engram with nothing? Historically that has never happened. People have called have never boycotted and without results. You know what I'm saying in In addition to the boycott wasn't valid. When anyway well which is why? I'm glad that you implemented the system that you did too. What is it that you're doing now and you're talking talking about Inclusion and diversity inclusivity and that you want to create and bring to other fashion brands. It's a break to all the fashion brands spearhead. And thanks to mark on Alexandra. We're doing that today and this this is like I wish I can encourage people to read young people to read. This is the argument that goes back all the way. Back to determine essentially between Dubois. Frederick dauntless you know in early think is man you know what I have to say. You're true inspiration. Young old black white everybody in between so thank thank you so much. What is next for Dapper? Dan would I would like to see now is to have people looking fashion a different way fashion to transform home not just individuals but communities man. And I think. That's what's so significant. Either intentionally attention when Alexandra Incorporated corporated. All these ideas from Wilma world. You know that validates who we all we all need to tap into that energy and let the whole well no we we we a diverse you know but even though we voice we can be inclusive as well and so that's the charge one only. That's the direction I WANNA take. Okay so on pretty big deal. I like to do one last thing to close everything up. And it's you fill in the blank. Okay Okay you ready okay. Fill in blank. I pretty much always take public transportation. Okay what's the biggest lesson you've learned in the past year to be the in charge of my social media myself in that nobody else. What's the biggest is deal? You've ever made partnership with Gucci. Hey and finally you're obviously a pretty big deal But what is a pretty big deal to you. A pretty big deal for me is to be able to a dealer wouldn't allow me to create generational wolf from our family. It's about the legacy and is about the generational wealth for Dan. Thank you so much I really. I appreciate your time for the newborn now it. Oh this is so key okay. Everybody Listening I. I have a Dapper Dan for Gucci. Gee Box in my hand and it's for the little baby. Oh Oh my goodness this is such perfect onesie. Thank you think you saw in so many ways thank you I thank. You lied to put my baby and I hope you come to the baby shower. Of course. Okay it's November in the whole Fam- d'avray Dan thank you so much and everybody at home. We want you guys to be a part of the conversation so make sure you to go to Hashtag pretty big deal. And don't forget get to subscribe on Youtube and forget to instagram and twitter at pretty big deal pod. We want to hear from you and we'll talk to that so we'll see some pretty big deal is produced by pretty big deal productions and maybe Lee sound.

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1983 KROQ Top 106.7 Songs 21 to 11

What Difference Does It Make

51:53 min | 7 months ago

1983 KROQ Top 106.7 Songs 21 to 11

"So Holly I'm always amazed at how easy it's been to have anchor as our distributor great. Hasn't it we record our podcast? I do a little Magical SNIP SNIP. Throw it onto the web on anchor and then they throw it out all over the world. Amazing you can record and edit right in anchor like you do an anchor will distribute the podcast for you so you can hear it on spotify and Apple and whatever other platforms you want and there's everything you need to make a podcast all in one place. Yes it's been wonderful. We're very happy to have them as our distributor and we encourage you to do the same so download the free anchor APP or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started. Do it now. So guess what. Today show is brought to you by audible. Audible is offering our listeners. A free audiobook with a thirty day. Trial membership just go to audible. Trial Dot com slash. Wdm podcast and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs. Download free title and start listening. It is just that easy again. Just go to audible trial dot com slash. Wdm podcast and you're totally set. Have no day. What's going on today? I guess first things first doing okay. I'm doing great. I'm totally carved up. Thanks to you or we got bagels. This time we great bagels hops hops. Pops is a pop up in Culver City California shot out POPs up scissor. Those are really good bagels. Reason for those wondering. I'm everything guy an everything Bagel guy. Yes I am an everything Bagel guy. So yeah wonderful. We're all good. We're we got the BAGELS. We got the cream cheese. We got the coffee the PODCAST. We got the pine. We've got the PODCAST. What difference does it make because what difference does it make where we talk everything? Eighty s welcome. To what difference does it make rank you here? Welcome and thank you to you all of you out there. Whoever you may be chime in who are you. Oh I can't he okay. Do you talk to podcasts. Or do you talk to the radio or do you talk to the TV time. Don't you you answer back to like someone will say something? You're like that's the most ridiculous thing nobody would ever say that. Oh my God oh my God please stop. I hope you're doing that you speak the truth. That's what I would say so. We hope that you guys chime in try man or charman through twitter or Tweet US twenty. Yes tweet at us. Yeah we've got. We've got the social media's we've got the Internet's without the PODCAST session medium. Because isn't that plural media. I think you're right. I go with the funny session right. You do not go with the straight all right so now you know who we are. I am Dave the funny. Holly is the stay on point. Stay on target. Certainly we never veer off never never ever ever doesn't feel like we're veering off from nineteen eighty-three wrote which we should by the way the podcast website for the podcast is wd Dam Park Dot Com. Please sign up for our email list. I think in April. We're going to be sending out our I e mail. So you have time to to get the inaugural issue as to. We are yeah. I'm excited to see whatever's going to be on there because what difference does it make is where we talk everything eighties but mostly music right and right now. We're talking nineteen eighty-three. We're counting down the hits. That Karaoke played way back in the day. Kiro Q. Every year put out their top. What oh six point seven. Because that was the frequency steelers still is their frequency so they put out the top one zero six point seven songs of the year. We are now up to nine hundred eighty three. And we've been counting down the nineteen eighty-three songs and we are currently at number. Twenty CAC has since pared down their list to eighty songs so twenty six point. Seven songs have been eliminated from the originalist. And we like to guess or I like to guess which one's been eliminated. That's true some songs. There hasn't been twenty six point. Seven songs eliminated because some songs have been added in like they didn't play the violin dams originally and now on their updated rock of the eighties list. The violent films are now representing. Most of the songs are are on the list however there is one song that has been eliminated. I think you might be able to guess which when it is and we'll see because we have talked about it in the past. There's your hint basically we're counting down. We Love countdowns. We like music countdowns. We are counting down the hits. We are currently number twenty what we have in number twenty Nina with ninety nine lift balloons back in one thousand nine hundred three. It was at number seventeen on McKay rock list. Much like our favorite Falko. Yes this was a song that was recorded both in German and in English. Did you use to try to sing? Live German as if we knew the words never ever ever do you know German. I don't know I studied German. I hear what you sounded like. Nope okay fine. You did when I say look balloons. What I didn't realize about this song is that it's not an exact translation into from German into English. There were a new lyrics added to this song at why I have no idea. Yes so there so there was an English language version titled Ninety. Nine red balloons. Yes so yeah. It just says it's not a direct translation of the German original and contains lyrics with a somewhat different meaning. I don't know why they did that but that was something that was done different meaning. I'm surprised I I understand like to you know to you know because not everything you know Matt syllables. But I'm surprised that they would change the meaning of the song. Do you know the meaning of of there were ninety nine. Red Balloons. That's all I do. There's more to this song. Okay if you knew German as I do okay. Maybe you'd understand what's about the dreams of the German people that were lost after World War Two. The ninety nine balloons represented many dreams that each person had and at the end of the song she just wants to prove that the German people did have dreams by finding one balloon. Says she finds one balloon a dream. Let's ago what I read. Better check my sources again. The rolling stones like rebel yell influence so many songs while at a June nineteen eighty two concert by the stones in West Berlin nares guitarist. Carlo cahrges noticed that balloons were being released as you watch them move toward the horizon. He knows them shifting and changing shapes where they looked like strange spacecraft. He thought about what might happen if they floated over the Berlin Wall to the Soviet sector. Okay so you're saying that that's the meaning of the song as well or that's an alternate meaning or that how these meld. These two meanings master probably. I didn't realize Nayna is the name of the band. Yeah it's the name of the band I mean it's not her name. It was her nickname right. Which means little girl in Spanish? You still like the song. Yes I like the song but I'm not sure if my liking of the song comes with the memories it brings back of of qe wreck in that era. Just if I liked the song if I would like to sign as much of I heard it today do you like it. Yes I still like it. A Lot. NEE NA. The Solo artist does not like the English version. Apparently she has never performed that song. The English version ever ever ever ever true true. Wow you know. They had no Intention of releasing it in in the US was it a radio DJ. That's found the song. Was It on K rock. Because they say they credited a jacket. Karaoke was a young young attractive woman singing a song. A Rodney who played it. I can tell you right away. I'm sure you're right yes I'm sharing. Yes Yeah Rodney on the rock three. Yeah he played introduced us to a lot of songs has an affinity for young girls. Singers scarily young but But that's Rodney He. I don't know anyway. Got Attention on K rock and spread because that is the influence of Karaoke Nice. Yeah they did have a first which is called a nerd. Get trumped that yeah. That's her Americanized. Noor TRUMPED THEIR THEIR GIFT TRUMP. Which means just a dream also kind of a catchy song didn't make the The US hot one hundred but reached number seventy in the UK. It's a fun song but it's Ninety. Nine love balloons. Did you watch the video for ninety nine lift indict? I remember the video but as as videos are but they're playing live and there's like smoke going off in the like different colored smoke. It seems like it's out of control over blow. I feel like someone the Pyrotechnic. I really enjoyed a blow up stuff. Think these different colors of smoke going off and I think the ban was getting annoyed. But I'll go back and watch it again. I think that happened. That has happened when somebody in testing making the video has an affinity for all the new effects that were available. Yeah we've got a budget okay. We got some or. I'll get some smoke bombs. Don't worry you'll have plenty. We enjoy you would call this band. A one hit wonder but yet they still live on. Nina's got a solo career that she's had for since nineteen eighty nine and she's still plays in Germany And has a pretty good career going on over there and I guess the the whole band reunited in two thousand seventeen to play Noor. Gut tromped to celebrate their fortieth anniversary. Oh yeah all right. Let's move onto number nineteen what we got. We have the fixed once again. One thing leads to another nice This now is number. Sixteen on the updated charts moved up. Another three spots reached number four on the US billboard charts back in November of the eighty three hit number two on the US mainstream rock charts and went to number one in Canada. What can you tell me about about one thing leads with other the meaning of the song? Would you like to know the meaning of this? Oh yes please do tell me. It's supposedly about malleable politicians sacred and said an interview. He said if you're going to be a liar you'd better be a damn good liar and remember what you said or the whole thing is going to get pear-shaped that was thirty years ago and look where the system is now a. Lotta people stand on ballot boxes and say a lot of things in Lyon order to get elected and do nothing so those songs. I'm pretty proud of how pertinent today certainly is also pertinent. I guess for us of a certain age I happen to find. This actually was on the fixes website. They have An article from Fortune magazine from November of two thousand nineteen and Just mentioned that fidelity investments recent campaign announcing lowered accounts. Costs part of the industry's race to the bottom and fees Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. So anyway WHO's fidelity turn to to get their message across fix fix easy save by zero nine hundred ninety three? Jay? I'm by British new wave band. The fix that's very clever. It says that wasn't the casual selection but a very calculated one think it through which Americans are hitting their prime earning years right now starting to inherit the vast wealth of their parents getting serious about managing their investments. Not Us but apparently people our age. So yeah they're reaching out to generation X. of course it says sandwiched and her at the sees and often overlooked between the boomers millennials. Yeah and which musical era do. Those investors remember fondly from their childhoods the eighties so they used saved by zero. They also used one thing leads to another. They've used both those sides. Clever good marketing the well. The chief marketing officer says are targeted. Audience loves hearing those songs when they hear them it gets them to pay. Attention reminds them of when they were first starting out in life and now they are a bit older and starting to reap the benefits of investing and starting up podcasts. They are starting a podcast. Exactly Yeah we. Can Invest our earnings bets true. We should do that so yeah I guess that saved by zero was so successful. We launched more funds like that the couple of months later we turn to the fix again for one thing leads to another pretty rare that you get a perfect. Follow up song like that. You know what I did. Forget you remembering it now. I am remembering now side. Kernan was in the better. Be Good to me video with Tina. Turner. Yes he was. You're absolutely right yeah. He is spectacular watching last night and a first of all team. Turner spectacular. She is is one of my favorite songs to the. She's great video and then size kind of moving around or moving around her thought really necessary but you know Seiger in and why not remember him and his hair from that video. Sure that Billy's Africa look from From Karate Kid Good Luck. We should all have that luck. Although I believe it's Williams App can now how many times I have to tell you this. He will always be billy. How many times do I have to tell you this? Okay all right. So let's Let's move on from the fix from fidelity to to Tina Turner Tina Turner in this now. Locate key rock didn't play. That's that's another good excuse to Mitch and other artists that Tina Turner. It has been a request. An anonymous request that we from nineteen eighty three and our primer. We try and go over pop songs that were. I know how much you hate pop songs but hey pop songs. I love pop song. You just don't like to have the cure be referred to as a pop artist now. I don't even know they had many pop hits we. We should always recognize great stuff and Tina Turner. I mean when we hit eighty four with private dancer we will. We will mention. The we mentioned a lot. I think we just mentioned her better. Be Good to me. That's it yeah. That's a great song it is. It is indeed. We will talk more about it in the next year which is next year. But that's really not too far away in podcast. Here's all right so let's move on to number eighteen. Which is the Greg Kim Band Jeopardy Frankin spiracy? Now we talked about this. Okay first of all. This song is also moved up. Three spots and Number Fifteen on the K rock updated list. Okay Greg loved simple pop songs. Greg like Paul's he named albums. So yes okay. So after his debut in nineteen seventy six called Greg. Kin Nineteen seventy seven. He came out with Greg King again. Then we got here. We go ready. We got next of kin. Rock N Roll Ken Ten. You'd Kim spiracy contagious citizen can uncontrollable can of Hearts. True Confessions then. We have his all encompassing album. Kim pleat and then we have his comeback album called rekindled. I can explain this. I can couldn't think of a better name for this purpose. Yeah it's a perfect pet name. Apparently this Greg likes to dig deep. And he did. He did but yeah jeopardy. The great fun side. Yeah did you watch the video for this? Do you remember the video? Now because I'm thinking of the Weird L. version. Of course you are. Yeah so I can't remember the Greg. Ken Well it kind of ties into the weird Al Version. Because in the video Greg King is going to get married but of course. He's got cold feet. He's looking you know he's walking down. The aisle and the bride is always covered up. You can't really see what she how she looks. The preacher is there. Greg looks to the audience and he sees people some people. Are you know one couple is chained together by by their hands? Some are kind of fuse together. Their hands are fused together. It's black this out. He's getting. He's getting cold feet. He's not feeling well and then Then he lifts up Vail first versity seizes beautiful bribe but then she turns into a Zombie. And he's like I'm Outta here. Forget it so he escapes out and then he's about to drive away and he sees his lovely bride not bride. I guess whatever expands the ex-fiancee and she slams her flowers down on the sidewalk and then she's looks across the street and she sees Greg Kin and she smiles and Greg polls up to her and they escape out without without getting married but they drive away and the license plate says lips. I don't know why it says lips but it does. I think they eloped. So it's that my ending to it in your mind. They got married. They maybe they did a low. Maybe the they just stayed together. They stayed together escaped. Okay in the Weird Al's version. He does he does horribly on the jeopardy question hence the name I lost on jeopardy video version. He's on jeopardy. And the questions are number bricks in the Great Wall of China secret ingredient found in both cheese whiz and crazy glue and the daily double question is this. German baroness could suck the chrome off offender. And of course he can't answer. He has no idea he's horrible. They throw them throw them out of the studio and he ends up in the back of a car and the driver turns around. Of course it's Greg Kid and they drive away and the license plate says loser and of course weird. Al's career has lasted although Greg Greg. Still going strong but You know weird. Al is still at Weird Al Peak and Greg Greg Kid you know. He's I think he's he's kind of institution in San Francisco. Yeah do you know. He's going strong. Do you know what he does. Please tell me he wrote books and he was the morning show guy on a station in San Jose. Okay and he does. He lives up there. I guess I'm assuming he's still lives up there but they say continues to perform at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk at least into the early two thousands. Okay Nice Yeah. Let's go to not multifaceted. Deuce see that he was inducted into San Jose's Rock Hall of fame in two thousand seven. San Has has a rock hall of fame. They do. Who else is in it? I did see that. This is something my mom would do as well if your if your child has a little bit of talent back in the seventies or something it's as When when Greg was seventeen. Is Mother submitted? A tape of one of his original songs to the talent contest of the local top forty radio station W. CEO which he took first prize won a typewriter a stack. So yeah that that was the start because his own. Greg is so talented. Well she wasn't wrong. She was not robbed. But I see see all moms doing something like that. Do you think that he wrote his book? On that typewriter. One could be good question. Yeah so the Doobie brothers are on the are in the San Jose Rock Hall of Fame Class of Twenty twenty. Oh timely because they are touring this year. Yes Oh Abrasion of their fiftieth anniversary to be confirmed. Your fifty th. This is their Fiftieth Fiftieth Anniversary. Congratulations Doobie brothers. Yeah they're touring this year with Michael McDonald with Michael McDonald Marvin. Yeah that's important. Yes I definitely would love to see that show Okay so congratulations. A great kid who who is in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Way Ahead of the DOOBIE brothers Ad has the number eighteen song on the K rock. Top One of six point seven list of one thousand nine hundred three also had very good hair as many of the one thousand nine hundred artists. Yes indeed I liked his hair. Didn't you never thought of it? But when I think of hair actually I think our next artist. This is from This is now number. Seventeen are this was seventeen. It's now number fourteen on our charts. You think of heroin you think of the police I do. I mean sting. Come on that look not be. I mean. He had good hair but I don't think of him as you know I mean George. Michael had great hair. Yeah but sting had all those guys have that like that shaggy. I was a good. It was a good hair. Look it was a great heroine but it wasn't. I don't know if I would call conic like this. Okay because the machine you you could recognize them just by the look of their heads right you. Would you'd see three heads shadows shadows of their profiles of what they look like. And just judging by the hair you would recognize. That's a police. I agree with you. They have gray hair. I love their hair. I just didn't see it as iconic. Would YOU RECOGNIZE KIPNES HAIR? Probably well more granny. Okay Fair enough. We gotta take a break. But I'm going to have to have both of us from eating anything more carby ago having another baby. Let's go you've been happy with anchor. Haven't you anchor has been great? It's been really easy. It's free to use great and they and they have all the tools you can do. You can record edit it right on your phone or your computer super simple we record it and then we upload it to anchor and then they do all the work because of anchor. It's allowed us to reach out to a wide audience. And by the way it's free it is free and it's simple to download and simple to use so just download the free anchor. App or go to Anchor Dutt F. M. to get started so do it now. The police the police King of pain. And what instrument is featured on this Marimba vibraphone Roomba so a vibraphone player is a vibraphonist. Did we ever figure that out? Because the vibraphone was featured on the song was it. I will never stop the in the Bunyamin Echo on. The bodyman had the vibraphone. Oh Yeah yes. And that's a vibrant. The person who plays it is a vibraphonist. Okay but this is Marimba and Stewart. Copeland was playing it. That's all we need to know Marimba St- We'll call him to my utmost for this episode Yeah so Oakland. Drummer extraordinaire indeed One of my favorite songs. Yeah I I love to good good stuff. Yeah and UH information about sting in his angst when I was researching the song. Thanks makes for great songwriting. So I guess he wrote the Song He after he had separated from his first wife who I met her. She was an actress. Francis Tumblety so funny. I never realized he was married previously. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I always feel like trudy was always there. Yeah because she was well she's the most visible more visible. I think so. Yeah maybe in the Solo Career. I guess because I don't know maybe synchronous. And when he became like a pop culture icon. He started learning a little bit about staying in that. And then of course you hear about Trudy so I didn't realize is is. Yeah yeah which is most rockstars. This is wife two point. Oh what you get when you're rockstar upgrade. I believe they're a good fit. Apparently they're still together right. Yeah yeah they Yeah so he. He wrote it after he split with his first wife and he wasn't getting along with Stewart and Andy and he just he said he conjured up symbol of pain and related them to my soul. A black spot on the sun struck me as being a very painful image. That's a lot of things that are painful in this song. Yeah that's how you write a song. Make a list. And he is the King of pain make poetic he make it melodic instant hint. That's see that's how you write a song. Love this Song Oak and I'm sure you're aware of the cover songs you like. The you've heard allows more sets version of it now. You're kidding. I must have heard it from her. Unplug session Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yes from nineteen ninety nine. She did an MTV unplugged. Sure I know I love that but I don't remember the song from it. Oh my favorite version of this is Is Lady Gaga does a duet with sting for his sixtieth birthday She kills it. Kills Everything Out? Some she spectacular. I think lance is a little too sleepy for me that Virgin Lady Gaga and staying together. It was. It's it's pretty cool. I could even sting like near the end of it. He gives her a look. Like Oh my God who are you this is? It's pretty amazing. Voices are great together to. Yeah it's really it's really good. I would prefer to post version of a lances. Start my my apologies to Atlanta's apology. Because we know we love Atlantis when you bow down to Atlanta while I do. I mean unplugged. It's it's more you're supposed to be lucky. And this was a birthday celebration. So Lady Lady Gaga just goes nuts on it. She shines yes she does we shine. It's just new song too stupid love. Yes yeah if you love the eighties. You're GonNa love stupid love yet. I do. Okay well I'm sure you love this. Aw upon first hearing right yeah I guess. If you'RE GONNA post any of the other versions you should also post the weird Al King of Suede. Who's really good at selling swayed products? Home I gosh. Did you see weird? Al recently tweeted that. He's he's tweet was no. I am not going to do a song. Called my corona. Yes is national treasure so king of Suede? I don't even know that one. But maybe we'll we'll do. We'll do a couple. I guess there you go to songs from LEERED L. Let's move on to number sixteen. We have the Culture Club. I'll tumble four. Ya The number four wonder why they use the number four because it was cool in because fourth there were four members of Culture Club. You really think was it Prints thing I dunno just more fun. Yeah maybe I mean following princess but although they certainly had more songs on the chart than than Prince did at that time the K rock chart true Tell me they had five. Yes they had five. The single was released. It was released only in North America number. Nine Culture Club was the first band to have three top ten singles from a debut album since the Beatles how he doesn't Culture Club here that in the same sentence you do I mean now I actually think bieber recently broke some some other type of Beatles record so yeah I mean that's exactly the younger generation. The older generation kind of shakes their head. But it is what it is. We'll have to credit him where we're cringes do. Justin Bieber yes indeed Okay so this I'll tumble four you. We've this is the Third Culture Club Song we've talked about. Is this on the updated list? The fact that you're asking tells me it is not correct. It is not on the updated list. But do you like the Sun. Do I like this. Yes there's nothing not to like about Culture Club are yes. I two three records and they're all great. You know who danced in this video No I watched the video. It's fine it's like. They're they're performing at an audition or something and there's a lot of acrobatics and they're just being silly in the video. It's it's fun smiling. Boy George just dancing around times and who is who is in. So you didn't recognize a preteen. Naomi Campbell are really yeah. Oh that's awesome appre crazy. Nail Diomi Campbell. Maybe she still had not still. Maybe she had a a happy kind disposition. Eighteen okay are we'll go along with that. Oh that's interesting. Get to know we have to go back and look for Miami Campbell much like Nicole Kidman in Pat. Wilson's Bob girl made her debut as a teen. That's okay so that's a good start for music videos. I mean if you're an actress or actor trying to get into the Industry Courtney Cox Courtney Cox good call. That was a good one all right. Let's move up to number fifteen. We have madness. Our House high conic. Yeah touring again. Yeah well as many as many as bans are. I know this small US tour. They're playing Boston New York. La They're playing the PUNK Rock Bowling and Music Festival in Vegas and they're doing two nights in Oakland. And that is it. And then they're they're leaving the states and touring elsewhere so if you're in those areas go go check him out there. Playing with English Beaten Mighty Mighty Boston's bench. That would be a really fun. Show this'll be at the Greek in. May so I was thinking of the punk festival but the Greek theater is probably better. Yeah low close. You're just always looking for an excuse to get the Vegas actually. I might prefer the Greek. That's a toss up. I love the Greek theater. I love going prefer grunt the Greek. Yeah yeah this is their only top ten hit in the US. That's Yeah I know it's crazy. They were huge in the UK between nineteen eighty and nineteen ninety-six madness spent two hundred and fourteen weeks on the UK singles charts. Ub Forty shared the same number of weeks the largest for any group in that decade. But over a longer period so like this seven year period between eighty and eighty six madness was mad this for madness where you mad for madness. I remember I mean it was my first show that went with friends. I saw they opened up for Bowie. There was It was you know Bowie go-goes and math and that was that was a good good. Good good show year was that I was eighty. Three timber. Eighty-three September. I WANNA say September ninth. Nineteen eighty-three when I saw I saw Bowie go-goes than this and of course it stuck with me because I still remember the date. That's great that's some show was a good time at Anaheim stadium. That's a big show. Big Show good good stuff we were. We were so naive. Oh well we'll get there early. Lay out a blanket. Watched the show. Because that's what you do with your parents you. You sat on the grass at a park. And you watch the band and so we laid out a blanket and waited for madness to come on the first band and as soon as they came on. Evan came rushing forward. And we're just sitting there on what the what the what what what we have to push for it. So we packed up her stuff. We push board and stood up the rest of the night if you don't if you don't have any experience with that that was very fine. I love that madness. Were huge as I mentioned. They had fifteen singles reach the UK top ten include one-stop step beyond baggy trousers. It must be Love House. Define our initial tagline was we talked about eighty s music and beyond and that's I got that from Atlanta one step beyond madness. Yeah so a great great stuff and I as I went on their website. I are you saw that. They have a book out about their life. It's it's called Before we was we came out last year. It's coming out in paperback in April. And then she you can listen to it on audible. You could sponsor shall to our sponsor a yeah. So that's I think that would be kind of fun book to read. Yeah I think you're right. Probably an interesting life for sure they live. The life is starting from their humble upbringing to. I'm sure there's I'm sure there's a lot of great stories there so That's something to look up what you've found the story. Maybe this story was included this First of all. You know the the the singer's name suggs yes? Yes of course was real name. Yes Graham McPherson. That's his real name but he was a cooler sex's much better. I wonder I was just trying to look where it came from. So the this was used in a twenty seven commercial in the UK for bird's eye fish fingers which I'm guessing is like fish sticks. Okay and he was in it so I was in the commercial. He sitting with family at teatime and the daughter studying for for her school exams and asks suggs where Omega three can be found. He offers the answer of bird's eye fish fingers suggs knows all is multifaceted. Thank goodness suggs. Was there to to help this poor girl out. You can use my song as long as I can be. In the commercial in the early `oughts they had A music much like Abba or you know. They had one of their musical based on the music of of madness and it was called our house and it ran the in London's west end from two thousand to two thousand August of two thousand and three you can You can watch a video of it. They have a DVD recording of in case. You Ever WanNa see the the jukebox story of at this might be fun. That would be very fine and we can pop. Open some madness brewing. If some madness. Bruce if you want to There's the gladness the craft lager night boat is the London porter and love. Struck is the premium Amber Ale. And then it would go good with fish finger so I got some fish fingers. Get some beer. We'll watch the madness movie musical. We gotTA GO. We gotta go of all fired up for the show. They're coming in May. Let's go good times eight all right. So is this still on the list. After after we've gone off on that yes it's moved up. Two spots and number thirteen madness could never non analyst. Okay I agree. let's move onto number fourteen. We have you to New Year's Day yes from war. This was the first time I ever saw them. Was the war tour at the sports arena. Yeah that was good times. Great Times as I was Reading about this I I knew it was about war. Kind of never really. It reads more like a like a love song as that's not uncommon for for songs. We've talked about this songs that about war that sound like love songs but songs that have other meanings but can always be interpreted as love song right when you read the lyrics and you you know when you go through the chorus. It's of course I wanna be with you night and day. Nothing changes on New Year's Day. I mean Sir you would look once you love to hear that you know someone say that to you. WanNa be with you daily. Well does consider this a love song while it is about war. It deals with the struggle for love. Yeah so I guess I mean I mean even though the war part where I mean it says under a blood Red Sky. A crowd has gathered in black and white. Maybe they're at a wedding arms entwined the chosen few newspaper says says it's like you know we made an announcement we're getting married. I really what's true? Is they announced in Polin that they would abolish martial law? A New Year's Day in one thousand nine hundred I understand. But it's talk to me Say It's true it's true we can break through torn into. We can be one you know. Maybe we broke up but we can be one you know. He's fighting for his love. Yeah I know I definitely sounds like a love song. Certainly in the way people sing it in in concert of course sounds more like a love song. Yes in concert. It's uniting everybody together and I still. My favorite part is watching edge. Plays the keyboards. And then all of a sudden he pulls out the guitar and does his Guitar Solo. That's always one of my favorite parts of youtube shells. Suddenly he's broken through from the shackles of being strapped to the keyboard. And he's got the he's got the guitar now and he steps out onto the solo edge move does yes and you know of course puts his arm around rock and roll here. We are reenacting a Youtube concert pretty much. That is how that goes and this was their first single here. Which seems obvious. Yeah I did not realize this. The B. Side of New Year's Day is a song called treasure. Whatever happened to Pete? The chop this is a song that has never been performed live yet. It's on the B side of one of the most connex. I have never heard. That's and now I I'm I'm going to post it On our website because I have never heard the song I forgot to look it up when. I'm sure someone has posted it on Youtube. Whatever happened to Pete the chop? That's a very good question. I don't know stay tuned. We'll find out for you. Did you watch you remember the video? Yeah remember them on horseback? Do that was Four Swedish teenage girls. That was not the band. That's funny. They they actually. I read that they plan to shoot the video in Sweden but when the mountains and snow in the mountains and the snow they hoped for didn't materialize. They tried Norway but they're still Swedish. They must have hired the Swedish girls in anticipation of that now is he has filmed in the dead of Swedish winter and Bano refused to wear any headgear. Despite the cold weather he had a lot of trouble mouthing the lyrics but you know all in the name of rock and roll so next time you see the video on horseback just no. It's not the boys yes? It's for for teenage Swedish girls. Yeah very rock and roll in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. U2's New Year's Day was at number fourteen in the updated. K Rock rock of the eighties list from two thousand eighteen. Let's say it is now number twelve now the talking heads back in back in one thousand nine hundred three the talking heads. Song burning down. The house was number thirteen in this current list. They are now at number eleven. A song succeeds is as burning down the House Hog. It's good good stuff. This is Great Steph. Did you watch David Byrne on? Snl PHANOM CA few weeks ago. Amazing Oh my God. Right was a fabulous performance. Yeah he's been doing that for a while. Now I know he toured with this American Utopia group. Yeah and he's taking it to Broadway. I think it's in the fall. It's coming back to To New York on Broadway and Yeah just a lot of choreography. Going on it's a wonderful. It's so compelling it's just God and he looks like they all look like they're having such a great time and he so he. I mean obviously always a great perform. I mean just an interesting compelling performer. But this performance was so gray. He's always been like that creating this US things visually about the music. It's not just an artist. Yeah it's not just the playing of the songs he wants to create some sort of visual statement to the songs as playing and succeeds amazingly. Well he was yeah. Snl What he played was once in a lifetime and Toe Jam and toe. Jam is a song by a band called the Brighton. Port Authority. I think he he did that with dizzy. Rascal that was listed at number fourteen on Rolling Stone Magazine's top one hundred songs of two thousand eight. So case you were wondering toe. Jam was I didn't know toe jam football from come together remember that But anyway but now we're talking about burning down the house another great visual song even without a video. I mean it's still phenomenal. And this this was a song that actually may down to top ten charts and the US it. Hit number nine Yeah Great Song burning down the house. He's still love it. Oh yeah but I love it. I have to say I will go back and revisit so much after seeing that performance I just I hadn't paid. I mean I like him I'm You know I was always a moderate fan. But seeing that makes me just want to go back and This fall should go to New York and go see the American Utopia. Maybe oh well. Yeah good idea. Yeah it's this. This song got his name burning down the house. Yeah how did it get name so Chris Chris France Drummer? Yes he was He likes funk and it was a p funk show in New York that that he when he heard the crowd Yelling to the band to burn down the house he got the idea from the sun. Tear the roof off the sucker. Yeah Yeah you know. Well that's that's cool so you got like a you get inspired title like okay. We need a song called burn. Burn down the house where he came. That's great three hundred sixty five degrees burning down the house okay. So let's move onto number twelve. This is David Bowie's modern love. Yes it is back in the day it was number twelve now it has been pushed back to number nineteen because because why because Culture Club can't have all the songs and they took off. I think to Philip Culture Club's slots culture club get all these songs and we only get. Well we had Let's dance also. Yes they couldn't put five culture club songs on there so I guess I don't know so now it's number one on the updated list. They will always modern. Love is at number nineteen. Okay fine enlisted in the top twenty. He deserves to be children's writer. Tweeted out how to make it as a writer. Follow these simple rules. No one to go out and get things done at that where this came from. No but this is you know it's simple rules. This is what you follow the Bowie rules. You WanNa go out no Wednesday in and take care of business. Oh so this was written after modern. Love was written and I thought you were saying that David Bowie was inspired by these. This writer was inspired by Bowie's words of yes. Stay in get things done. He said this is about the struggle to find solace in love and religion explaining how he remained a force in pop music for so many years. He sings it's not really work is just the power to Charm C. You just throw out a lyric and it works. He can throw it makes it makes it sound simple but yeah. It's so such a kick off the album. Stevie Ray Vaughan Guitar and Eric Check check. Check Check Object Lovett. Yeah that's when you knew you were in for something special just here in that guitar. Only kicks in good stuff. Let's end this episode with number eleven. Guess what Culture Club. And they're on the charts still. This is the one song. It's still on the charts and it's their debut. Do you really want to hurt me? Other debut the first song that actually became a hit. I think they released a couple songs before. Then this is the one that struck and this is yeah. Do you really want to hurt me by Culture Club? It's it's a classic Torch Song it's just. It's it's brilliant. Yes do do you really believe I mean he. I guess he admitted it. That was about as relationship John Moss. Okay that with the drummer was it or was it about all his former lovers at a now he. He's probably said multiple multiple responses. I choose to believe it's about the bandmate. Do you remember the video? Of course that was our first two. Yeah always remember. He had had his wearing a shirt with With Hebrew on it. How remember it said Tar boot a Gouda? What does it mean it? Means Culture and Association in grammatically Incorrect Order But Culture Association Culture Club. Okay I get that. So this was the band's first number one in the UK It reached number two in the US. And I believe it was jump that prevented Culture Club from reaching the number one spot. Is that right or belief. So wow yeah I'm not sure how I feel about that. Okay still both Still Classic Socks It did hit number one in twenty three countries. Twenty-three countries can't list them but you don't need to twenty-three is Numbers too big to ignore. This was the one song that K rock decided to keep on their updated K. Rocklin number eleven all right and we will end this episode. Next week we will. We will end our look in one thousand nine hundred three the end. Yeah so that's exciting that we get here we are here. I believe I am asking you questions. The last time I asked you questions you were went ten for ten. They thinking on good. You think he'd keep it up. No do not all right very good. Do you think I can keep it? I hope you can. I believe so. I have faith in you. You could do this although we've This episode has been struggles so I'm not so sure all right. The song the winner takes it all was released in Nineteen Eighty. By which group. It's one of my. It's my favourite Abba Song really. Yes that's sweet. It's not sweet. It's kind of a breakup Swede okay. It's sweet I should try and follow along with you now. I didn't. I doubt after all right which of these albums by Billy Joel was released. I glass houses innocent man front. I think I know the answer isn't man. No that was that was eighty. Four glass houses was That was like one thousand nine hundred. Yeah well okay that's You may be right. That was the time with okay. Innocent man was like eighty three eighty four do album with Christie Brinkley. Try To dance. I thought of those three that was first Which of these songs all right. So we're one for which of these songs released by Queen was released. I Radio Gaga a kind of magic. Another one bites the dust the dust. Yes who had a hit in one thousand nine hundred four with the song the Reflex Duran. Duran who had success in one thousand nine hundred five with the song my hometown springsteen Bruce springsteen released the album born in the USA in which year eighty four eighty six eighty eight eighty four. In which year was the Lionel Richie Song Hello released as a single eighty? Two eighty four eighty six eighty six. Yes I am on today. Video this is how the girl this is how I see it still an insane. All RIGHT EVERYBODY. I know I don't remember I remember. I don't remember it was about Cruzi. Video which song by Phil Collins has chorus that begins with the phrase so I cross my heart and hope to die groovy kind of love. One more night to hearts that would be incorrect. One more night and I don't think I would have gotten that when he right. Which of these is not an album released by the Group. Duran Duran in the eighties. Okay good you'll get this big thing. Rio Synchronicity city. Which of these albums was released by the police? Nineteen Eighty which we've done on our podcast. We've already talked about it. Goes through the machine than Yatiman Dada in chronicity is in Yadda good job. Just eight for ten beat solid. Be Strong be. I'm a solid B. Student Acceler. Good job all right. Thank goodness we're done with this episode. An episode well the penultimate episode is disappointment for actually was great fun. I will always remember having bagels a little Karbi episode. We were a little carbon episode until next time this is Dave. Is Holly circulator over now?

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An Aural Feast with Hans, 2019 Adelaide Fringe Ambassador

Adelaide Fringe Podcast

16:54 min | 1 year ago

An Aural Feast with Hans, 2019 Adelaide Fringe Ambassador

"Atalay themes. The potty that defines a city. Welcome to Adelaide fringe podcast where we take you behind the curtain of the largest arts festival in the southern hemisphere to help you navigate you'll bist fringe experience Hans the boy wonder of Berlin has to a nationally and internationally during a career spanning more than a decade. He recently shot to a new level of fame when he reached the finals of America's got talent. Where absolutely delighted to have Hans as one of three fringe ambassadors for two thousand and nineteen. In today's episode Hans talks about the unique atmosphere of Adelaide fringe, he shares how he grew his audience and achieved international acclaim, plus dishes, some dirt about his America's got talent. Experience to book your fringe tickets head to the Adelaide fringe website via the Lincoln the show nights. Adelaide fringe podcast is recorded on the traditional lands of the Ghana people with big thanks to Adelaide fringe principal partner. Banking say. Hans welcome to the Motte. My gosh Hulo how Larry Hello to the tens of people listening to this while the pleasure what an aural feast this is. Eight is sorry fringe. It's all happening. How you feeling? Well, I'm a little bit sore. But that's okay. You know, fringes about pacing yourself. I never have one drop of alcohol during Mahal festival and then on the last night. I am planning to arrive at the awards like Kate Middleton and leaving like Kate moss. Honey, put it that way. Good imagery. You've got a Pisces south three fringe because he it's a month long of lots going on. Exactly. And if you're not performing you're you're seeing Pozzo your having meetings with people you're catching up with friends. So it's important to, you know, get sleep where you can. And don't sweat the small stuff. You know? I can see a lot of people on Facebook going off a bed. Oh this review or something that happened? I think you just have to deal with it. And then move on. I have a bit of a Naomi Campbell tantrum. And then it's over. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Have the moment. Feel the feel all Hanley. I'll have the moment I send the text. And then it's over. So Adelaide has become your adopted hyme. Can you tell us how that came about? It is my home Atalay by arrived here on an exchange program many many years ago, and I'm I've stayed for tax reasons. But you know, it's it's funny. I feel so at the home in that lead that you know, it's almost like I was born here and have never lived anywhere else. I don't know. It's it's we it's weird. How I feel that way. But being back in that layer is like, you know, it's like riding a bike. Isn't it overriding? One of those lime scooters. I'm not sure that seems complicated. That's very easy. I've yes, I've been trying one out. I love it. I love the limescale and I love the Jing senior citizens were strolling on the footpath. It's a new sport. I'm thinking about racing one in super loop adding much less noise. Tell me hands. You have been involved in Adelaide fringe for a long time. Yes. I have two thousand and four was my first of a fringe, and I was in the show code Berlin cabaret, and it was at a venue called the Weimar room which opened on Heine streets in a building that used to be downtown and used to be a mad Cade facility of the eighties and nineties roller rink as well. And it was transformed into a pop up venue for fringe festival, and it became so popular that they kept it open year round. So we did a show every Friday Michael Berlin cabaret with a troop of wonderful performers. I dunno. I will give you this exclusive a feeling though, some of them were putting on being German, which that kind of disgusts me. I mean, what sort of sick posts and pretends to be something, then I know what kind of state has its we. But. But that's what happened, and it was kind of it, not only open my eyes. It opened my mind and other parts of my body being in that show and from them, I kind of created my own shows put them into fringe put a little band together at some dances. Our very first fringes that I did is my own show. We used to do them at a community stat establishment, formerly known as the MAs by you. Remember it? Well. And they were so lovely to because they always gave me the venue for free, which as you can imagine as a fringe artist that is most of your costs. And it was a great time because you know, it gave me a chance to get the show together. I mean, I was always okay. But it was the band in the dances in they needed rehearsal. They needed a few years under their belt, but we kind of build an audience. And now look at me. I'm so up myself. I'm unstoppable. And internationally on. Because last year you had sold out shows at inbr- fringes will be yes, how is that? Tell us will use. I mean, we will playing in the blue crate in the middle of a street. So I mean, it's not like a solo that Comey hole. But it was still as whole that season in Edinburgh. And you know, what the Scottish people you thought Germans knew how to drink. My god. It's not a rumor it is not a room these Scottish people there on that. And Asha was on a ten PM at night. So you can imagine what was happening. It was a wild ride. It was a wild rod for me. So you're not you have traveled internationally if performed around the world. How does Adelaide fringe compare? You know, what I think what sets us apart is our unique atmosphere. You know, like, well, obviously, everybody knows the hubs like the garden gluttony RC, see. But I also think there's so many wonderful little venues in Adelaide Laba, William the club, the GC's amazing this standard of venues in Adelaide is much higher. I would say I I also think if for an audience member, obviously, the weather's better than it Umbro. But also, it's just the whole kind of, you know, meeting your friends finding something to do off the cuff. I like kind of going out on the night, not knowing what you're going to go see picking up a flyer and going let's just give it a go. If it's bad. It's usually only an hour if it's bad usually have a better story to tell at the end of it. If it's great Honey everyone's a winner. It is had to navigate fringe. You have created at least there's a Hans list is. Only internet. There's an I've got ten picks up there and go back picking tags. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's not an exhaustive list. So talk to your friends see what they're seeing get on Facebook. See what people are raving about read the reviews, maybe, but I mean reviews at just one person's opinion. I think you know, if you have a group of people whose opinion you trust trust them the links. That's what I say more than anything. Just go to masher. Yes. Of course, essential guys outside on the as many tickets left the goal gone belly. Tell us a little bit about your shar your performing again in this year's for India's on they must show is called like a German, darling. You get it. And you know, really, it is just a love of fun my show. I every every now, and then I think, oh, maybe I should do something intellectual. And then I think Honey don't we just need to switch off every now. And then so. So when you come to my show, I think it's it's less of a show. More of a potty people have been bringing a lot of children to my show this year, though. But I kinda like it. It's a bit of a history lesson for them. It's better than education lily insanity on the first night, we had the German ambassador to a stray Elliott turn back. My god. Did she have a confusing? And she brought the German ambassador to Poland talk about having your work cut out for you that as a a heavy Judy job, darling. It is and so you know, is is your content really aimed at children pavement bringing kids alone. You know, what it's it's not actually anything to full on and Hannis. They've all got the Netflix these days. I'm not saying anything that. They haven't heard of there are a couple of multi words, but nobody's left with their children halfway through the show in disgrace. Let me put them on the a lot of the jokes sh over the head. You know, and you've got a seven piece band is that he's a seven piece band this year. Yes. That called the ungrateful bastards, and let me tell you. They are the only musicians who wanted to work with me this festival. Yes. Put it that way you'd be hard to work with. How can we do? You wanna be a Davis? Sometimes you've gotta let one link. So did you learn all about divas in America's got talent? Honey, I I was pretty tame compared to some of the people over there. Yes. I was very easy to work work with. But I you might be referencing salmon coun- he is a bit of a diva himself special relationship is on. I come to find the tractive about him. You know that in the money. Then I can help. So you can you give us a little bit in your show. Obviously, I'm without spoiling team. But can you share a little bit of just give us a little bit of a was invited to go on the show because it's called America's compelling, but apparent be thousand? They imported me in the Alex. Yes. But the national superstar, of course, they take. You know, he's a businessman on the he knows how television ratings work, and they had a spike last year. What can I say, it's the hands factor? Spike on television last year this year. I'm the embezzler. What's happened with the ticket sales. Thank you. You're welcome in the world's various grandba-. Thank you next. The superstar palate is draw cadre gets a community service as well as well as I mean, I'm really the Mother Theresa refrains Bellingham giving. That's that's my biggest fault in left. Alex. I'm to giving. Maybe. Yes. I mean, can you believe I'm still single the only man texting me these days is Clive Palmer. But what can I say people have been put on this earth for charitable reasons? You know, I'm up there with ball. No, Bob Geldof except far less irritating. Sorry, Pete Agha's is gonna ask. This is a man who this is what happens. This is. What happens the miniature become a star coattails? They wanna ride on them thou wings. He has called his show. Look Manno, Hans he has used imagery. There is similar to mine. I attended the show on Sunday with my legal team. And we are drafting up a a subpoena as at the. Moment. It's been awhile since that man's had a subpoena and his next show. Let me just say Peter girls next fringe show will likely be called cease and desist. But don't they say imitation is the highest form until I saw the show. I thought that. Yes. Yes. Sorry. Then he is wearing one of my original costumes, though. I've again again, I give a donated the to him. Now back. I mean, it's. I need. It's been stretched beyond any sort of shape. I mean, well pays a shape, isn't it? I guess so tell me about your costumes, then well, Hannity, they're all handcrafted by my own mother. Yes, we have spent so much money at the K fabrics. She has sown so many sequins in her lifetime that you you know, she's getting a little bit. Well, how can Helen kill? I will say that the eyesight is not what it used to be. But it's a mother's love is in its mother's love. And you know, she's she's whipping up costumes that really only a mother could be proud of. I think on Nari. They're beautiful works. Well, I mean, you know, now you see them at the festivals. You see them everywhere. Do you have? Or does your mom have a favorite costume? Can you do that? Or is that? Favor favorite costs to am fickle. So it kinda changes from week to week darlings. But I will say when I get a new costume usually just wear it and wear it. And where like it's uniform like I really become attached to it. So I've your janey I sat in two thousand and four was that. How did you grow your you'll superstardom obviously all natural talent shines through? But what other things how do you grow an audience? You know, I did as many gigs as possible. I remember in the very early days we used to call every pub in we used to call nightclubs. We would say we're going to come and do ten minutes in the middle of the dance floor with turn up a Davar goes with a CD put the DJ on with do a few songs and then leave fly fly fly. So I just think get yourself out that as much as possible. I know a lot of artists say I don't want to work for free. I don't wanna do a free gig. But sometimes you know, what you will be. Pay the venture and the payment is your growing an audience. So I think that's kind of the thing that you just have to do infringe just put yourself at there as much as possible. I mean, Honey look at me. I'm practically Kim Kardashian of the fringe output put myself up on anything, and he is that just really going to have that commitment to a long time. I think so. Yep. I think you're going to build your mainland mailing list from people that are tickets. You can get the Email addresses. You've got to kind of cultivated over a long time. It's not going to happen overnight. But it will happen. Maybe she was born with it. Maybe it's maybe lean. Okay. You know, how important do you think having Adelaide fringe is for South Australia, end, the style? I think we should be celebrating more than we are. I think everybody in Adelaide knows what it is everybody in Adelaide knows. It's the time to be here. I think nationally we need to be tell getting the word out there more. Also, I think you don't really understand what the fringes until you saying that for yourself, you know, and then you tell your friends about it. Then you're all my God. We've got to go to Adelaide, and I think slowly people are starting to get the message that well at leads not the sleepy town. And you know, but I think we could do a lot more to kind of get the word out there. We know about it here. But I don't think people far away the way know about it as much as they should if you had to try and pinpoint what is it that you think is your favorite thing about fringe? Oh god. Oh my gosh. Have you pinpoint what is happening in a month? Whether so much happening down to one thing. It's just come be part of it. All yes, exactly. Don't waste it. It's the most wonderful time of the year. You know, the song? I'd say we'll say it's Christmas. It's not Inge. Well, thank you so much for joining us hand. Oh my God. Honey. Thank you, darling. Thank you to your listeners both of them. And our what a pleasure. This is the end darlings. I would not use this opportunity to be so crass and tacky to promote hands lack a German at six thirty in the author gone and gladly tickets available at Hans official dot com or Adelaide fringe dot com. That you I wouldn't do that. I would not use this opportunity. I just wanna use this opportunity to thank you for having me. And just to say what the pleasure it's been for you. Be sure to subscribe to the Adelaide fringe podcast and never miss an episode to get the most out of your Adelaide fringe experience. Visit WWW dot Adelaide fringe dot com. Dodi you would you can browse shows by genre and location access fringed deals and a whole lot. More full regular fringe updates. Follow our social media channels all subscribe to a newsletter paddle aid fringe plug. Const is produced by narrative marketing who believed that stories connect individuals and that storytelling compulsively impact the world.

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2020 BBMAs Fashion, Cena's Secret Wedding & A Grande-Sized F-U - Nightly Pop 10/15/2020

Nightly Pop

21:01 min | Last week

2020 BBMAs Fashion, Cena's Secret Wedding & A Grande-Sized F-U - Nightly Pop 10/15/2020

"Tonight on nightly is warning I don't get the jolts Rudolph. The same somebody. Watched it. What about are we on great? OATMEAL somebody's record it. You I bet horny for three years. Guy Is Ever GonNa? Go No no no. No. You're separated right away till this paperwork sliding to bed with US starting right now. Your gateway drug to Brussels and million dollar feuds. Hey, guys it is Friday eve. We said it. We are pumped for the weekends. Friday. This is the intro birthday weeks turned up like. Exactly all right. The real housewives of Orange County premiered last night and we met Newcomer Elizabeth she is rich and has a big personality but sadly, she is not getting sex from her boyfriend and that's because she's in the process of divorcing her billionaire ex husband. I have been horny for three years. Why are you having sex with your boyfriend? I know it's a weird situation, but it's like I'm constantly horny. It to you. Know why? Because I'm married I've never heard of a man ever not wanting to get his rocks off when rigging together. We have sex sometimes twice a day sometimes three times a day not. The. But when the minimum. Them? Yes. He just wants to do it right and he he really cares for me. I don't know if that's the reason. I think he's waiting for her to get divorced so that he can remarry her and get some of that money and then have sex with her. What guy is ever going to go? No no no, I know you're separated right away till paperwork I just I feel has she been around men like? Men Don't give no like they don't care been men that I've met. I don't care if you married in a relationship like what you're trying to do. This if they've been together for three years and he is not sleeping with her, it is not because you are legally married but. This is not the true. Yeah. Yeah. It's embarrassing the fact that nobody's even told her that at this point like she's GonNa, get a reality check real. Don't WanNa sleep with you look at him. Could tell from that picture. Yeah. His lips are. Here she's right behind me. She right behind me in the next episode. Keita's and also like kissing me or like holding me or. Super Religious let's give them a little bit of. Doubt maybe he's super religious and he just wants her to be legally. separated. So then he informed Kate break have another he's praying to the money. He's he's Day We'll see we'll follow along. The twenty twenty billboard music awards finally happened last night in the stars showed off some wild looks which we are going to judge right now. Very exciting. CEO was in head to toe pink with a huge, bow. God Try to I'm trashing it right away. It's like we get it. You've been doing this for a long time now, but I love the I just think it's time to maybe evolving. Trash it from me I. See. You do whatever makes you comfortable maybe this is Cova compliant. I don't know what this is supposed to be I'm tired of the banks and the bows but you know if you like your lover for you, this is the farthest thing from Cova compliant. The only thing that's not covered her nose and her mouth. So. Upside. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's it. I'M GONNA go ahead and trash. Big Fashion we're we're all we're in Purple Tapir, Spirit Day, yeah, not easy to find purple close I'll tell you right now hard to find purple more than found in low. You're. Able for both of us. Yeah. Really. All right, we have laws in a snake skin suit. What do we think is try it or trash it I saw looks. Very. Love. You I love when you see somebody at an awards show and you can tell what they were going for immediately. So I mean I feel like that's that's what he was going for and he killed it I think it looks really good I. Think I would get a lot of. On this show. You lose it. I think he looks fantastic. He looks good. I mean he's artist they have those. You know they have that leeway to be able to kind of be artistic in what they wear. Absolutely try it try it then. killed it. We're trying it. All right. Let's move onto DOJ cats nude sequin dress. Are we trying this or trashing it? I'M A trashy to we've seen we. We've done the sheer thing we. From the waist up at the bottom is weird to me I like it. A big Fan I'd like to try. Fantastic. She still have to be blocked on twitter. So I'm I'm not feeling. We're not we're, not getting into. A lot of people had thoughts on Jillian Michaels, look try it or trash it I'm gonNA. Go. Rash the look I like Julia Mike Immunity too. Yeah. I don't love the Alpha, but I get a girl she might have wanted to eat before. You know you can't. With this kind of Alfie you know it covers everything you need makes it seem it seems very practical to me I'm GonNa say try it just for that reason. All right John Cena shocked everyone. I guess with the news he married his girlfriend Shea in a secret ceremony. In Tampa Florida, he strung Nikki Bella long for six years. I don't know if I agree with that but he then married just a year after dating his new girlfriend. If you guys were Nikki would you be pissed? I would be pissed in that it just it's. So it's like a slap in the face a little bit. Kind of. The narrative is true that he really was not did not WanNa get married and I could see how she would be upset but then she kind of did the smart thing by getting somebody else and having a kid right away to yes. So he had to deal with it. I, feel like you he did propose the Nikki so. He got over this marriage thing. So if you propose to her whatever he was resisting at first, he kinda dealt with she broke off the engagement not him. So maybe he was still in place where he was like you know what I want to get married. He was really hard about the kids thing he was saying he works a lot. He didn't WanNa have kids because he didn't want to be an absent father. So I don't know if that's still the case she people old people you know if she's in a whole relationship with. A whole baby, she shouldn't be worried about what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah I don't think she's worried about I think in relationships take so long to get to the next level it just it's such a struggle to get your partner to want to do the same things that you want to do. It's probably not a match from the beginning and I think he probably didn't want to get married didn't kids because there was probably something inside of him. That knew that she wasn't the woman for him. There was something there. That was not right. So I'm happy that. Yeah, exactly. But I. Guess maybe ex and you guys were going through things on the outside you shouldn't care but maybe to you. Can You? Get married. So I mean she might be telling her sister her twin how she really feels we will never know all right Arianna guerande getting slammed courtesy of music legend shock con apparently shock com gives zero about what anyone thinks that she should listen to what she told TV when asked who she'd like to collaborate with what about are. You like. She's she gift. Good. Catch me because I don't WanNa sing with another woman. I got nothing to say. Okay with the woman. Oh, boss bids can do. And I can do it. Just do it this I'm not gonNA do. Okay All right. She made her point clear. I mean look I feel like Chaka Khan is probably at the point where she can say whatever she wants. Do you guys agree or you feel like she should have been more gracious. Tell, somebody to record it so I can show everybody on now. But she didn't mean it this way you. Older. Black woman you know that she wasn't really dissing Arianna. She was just like she was trying to one in the conversation. So she was like she was saying like. I'm not trying to talk about her like that's to me what I got from it I was. Like she was Arianna I feel like she was trying to move the conversation away from her so when you talk to. You mean to the side it didn't mean. To her singing and shock has been in the game for a long time she. Is What it is a rea- my Rosetta Stone. Subscription and learn older black woman. Enough, you can hang. On and shock actually did work together already on a song called nobody for the Charlie's angels soundtrack that movie that none of us saw but that's why I think she. was talking about her and when she it's just a dismissive thing work with us like it's not people gotta stop taking things. So seriously when people are kind of joking. She was joking, all right. We have to take a break but coming up romance lessons from married at first sight less than one never included POK MON in a loveland. Nightly over a lifetime's married at first sight, the experts get couple Bennett and Amelia to write letters to their younger selves. The point was to build trust and make a deeper connection but that's not really what happened to my ten year old cell one day a nice lady is going to call you up and ask if you want to marry a random dude on a reality show, you should go for it. With the love and wisdom of you as a twenty seven year old lady. Lovely dear nine year old Bennett. Pretty soon you will be overjoyed to discover surprise that you will forget as long as you. It's a certain POKEMON. Card. A first edition Hologram Chart. This is no joke. Now listen closely because if you hold onto that card for dear life and keep it in the binder, it will be worth over twenty thousand dollars. By the time you're twenty, eight, twenty, thousand dollars is more than you make in a year working fulltime. Wow. That's a pretty. Letter. You think. Yeah. Yeah. Just thought it'd be like a little bit more about me. You know. I hate to give this ammo against me, but it's not hologram. It's Holographic and the car's not worth twenty grand. It's worth two hundred grand I'm literally going to a storage unit tomorrow to find my old POKEMON cards. Yeah if so I'M NOT COMING BACK NEXT You just only related to this dude is that what you're trying to? What is she talking about? That's boring Let's talk about some money making tips for a child. She held it together much better than I would have. I'll tell I'll tell you guys. I mean I am confused like, why didn't he just take the social cue? She went I that was his opportunity to change what he was going to say. It but still common sense kicking like wonder what's going on with men late are y'all okay. We're kind of funny maybe he was trying to be funny. I should have known when I saw that little scrunchy and his head that is an well that was the giveaway definitely wasn't expecting more from him for sure. No. All right and supermodel Naomi Campbell took on the first we feast challenge on a hot ones almost took her down. But despite almost fainting, she had to throw a little shoe shade. Campbell how you doing? Sean. My nose is running sign my eyes watering. That's a sign. On fire. And eating up from inside. On years. This show. Mercy. Give me Sir what's one fashion trend that you hope never comes back? I'm. Not. Into Might. Sorry box nothing as is. Shooting. I love the phrase Lazy Shoe I just got my mom's crock though so they have their place. People Love Them. You know of crude buster crocs. Doesn't mean you know I mean I, get it with Naomi. She walks to get her mail in like a six inch heel. So she's not the audience for Crock I think she does look at the surprising that she wore that choker though as she was like. I was risky and that's Not What nope. Couldn't handle it for sure. I would do very well on show I. Think. I would love to try the show. I would not do well I'm not. I'm not big on spicy food so I would I wouldn't farewell make making. The farthest. All right. Everybody knows Kaley cocoa got paid a ton of money for being on Big Bang Theory and not everyone thinks she deserved it comedian mistake called out the show right to Kaley face on Netflix's new series the cabin with Bert Kreischer. Literally the most popular comedy of all time, I, know sunny on the Big Bang theory of DVD's you can binge watch have a great long couple of weeks of office. Let me say something. I don't I don't watch them I can't to. Mark. I'm not damage. This is is. K into it. It, okay me Jokes. Got It a million thousand episode and I was like who? Is Watching this show to pay a million dollars an episode. I had the same God? Who Watches Big Bang. One person. No I know one person. My grandma but like I don't know what person who really watches this show I was. So I mean obviously people do but it's to me one of those popular shows that nobody watched that I knew. Yes. Somebody watched it because there was a reason that those paychecks happened. Well, I watched a few episodes I could kind of follow along with what's going I. Don't think it's really If if it's one of those popular shows in America, it's definitely not too smart. Well, she was trying to be kind I think in a sense of like saying, it was too smart to not say I think your show is trash just thought pat like the fact to me me and all black folks I know we're always like. This show getting a million dollars an episode who's watching this show. There were so many funny more popular shows that I thought I'm like how people get into million dollars an episode and she said it to her face which I thought was hilarious but also I was wondering why can't leave like? I'm like I'm helpless like that. You're a grown woman standing there. They're all sitting there cracking jokes. That's like the premise of the show like you'll be fine. You made a million dollars episode. Good point she didn't make a lot of money should you didn't make a lot of money from that? All right. We have to take another break by coming up. We have an X. rated retirement plan for your parents or your grandparents sex and the city is next. Welcome back to early. You guys. All right. We are a late night show. So we like to talk about late night topics. You know sexy stuff like senior citizens getting freaky or tips for a dazzling your private parts yes it is time for sex. Okay. If you haven't seen Sarah Highlands Lady Part Series Seriously Missing Out Adrienne Bylaw Houghton and so weedy joined Sarah on the latest episode and they discuss interior decorating well, sort of. would. You guys ever try the jazz alling I've never heard or try that. I WanNa see what that looks like. You remember how people used to Bedazzle Hand Dana's. It's pretty much that in any decoration that you want. But down there. Is I love is the IC down there and it lasts like I guess it has the adhesive on some other level. So it lasts like it'll stay lot your showers and lasts for like maybe a week Dr Sherri. Do you think it's safe to jazz all your vagina absolutely a good jazz uil on let's say on Valentine's Day could be a nice sweet treat. The doctor signed off I. believe that the doctor said it was okay. That's one of those doctors that you pay a lot of money too, and then you go drinking every mornings. Okay. A year paying me just not create a lot of uncomfortable friction if things were to progress like having a bunch of rhinestones I think it would have to be forced special occasion and then you know you gotta front I would get like is there a remover or something so like you know you get. You take it off on the fifteenth like is a one time should be like a one and done. All right next door. He goes out to all you senior citizens looking to make some extra cash. According to the Metro UK and Adult Advice website is hiring couples over sixty to be sex positions esters. Right you're going to earn around of four thousand dollars while attempting varying levels of. I can't. All right. What do you guys think about this? I mean if you were a senior citizen which used. His flight to the. Now This is his dream job. Thing wrong with you know my parents are sixty. So that's what I think of I. Think of my parents. So this is why I'm saying. To people and they. Run to my parents and they sixty s because I can't think about this your parents could just have. To hear what you have to say. All your parents signing up for this. No. No. There's a hard pass for that. I don't think that's yeah. I don't even WanNa. My hands are sweaty even thinking about it. Now No. No for that. I think the answer for going to be no, no matter what. But for one, hundred, million dollars would you watch your parents have God? What would you ask that I out of frame? I hope. So disturbing. Didn't ask you but we know you. We know you what? For One? Hundred, MILLION DOLLARS Kidding. Corn and You want some nasty we have a warning apparently now a little late, but for anyone swiping around on dating apps during quarantine, a new article from Cosmos Mask Fishing is the latest shady trend. All right. So what the mask fishing apparently, it's wearing a face mask to more attractive than you are. All right. So genius or low I, always feel like I. I'm like annoyed with my master's I play you can't see my face. It's because you got good mouth. You know like I think this is for people who have bad teeth. Some people have really beautiful is right right. Okay and that's what they want to show off and they don't want you paying attention to the fact that their teeth are going in different directions in that. You know they got real. Okay. I'll write that. Dating APP because eventually they're gonNA, see your face. Yeah. I think people lie on these dating apps all the time. So basically. With your bottom half now know. In case, you missed last night's show Nina said she briefly tried an open relationship but almost kills. So maybe a committed through. So maybe it committed as well as more of your thing. TIKTOK her Janey Frank shared a glimpse into her throat bedtime routine. Okay. I knew someone was going to ask this. This is our king sized bed. That's big bear. We do all seek in here sometimes I sleep in the middle and Maggie and cody either end, but it's not actually normal for all three of US asleep together. This is our queen size bed. So usually what will happen is to people asleep in the Queen and one person will get the king to themselves and we don't have like asleep schedule usually we just aside whoever sleeps in the king by whoever hasn't been sleeping the most recently gets to sleep by themself and we don't get jealous one person is sleeping with someone more actually we. Fight over, WHO GETS TO SLEEP BY? themselves. Man Curry. Sounds considerate. Are you by they don't get jealous I feel like if you have feelings for another human being and you are in a relationship with them at some point, you're going to get jealous you may not get all the time, but there's gotta be a point in the threshold that somebody's jealous about something this points in every couple where someone's Gel something. So maybe it's just the same. Yeah she's saying they don't. She's like we don't get jealous right I don't believe in either but maybe she's equally in love with both. That's the other thing they all could be. Getting Jealous because I just don't see how I could do this. It's not for everybody not for me for sure it went to 'cause. I'm glad at work. All right. We are out of time today. But we will see you guys Monday night at eleven with an all new nightly pop and do not forget to. DVR. So you never miss.

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Ep. 227 - Was Diddy right about forcing Joe Biden to have an agenda for Black people?

The Breakdown with Shaun King

21:13 min | 6 months ago

Ep. 227 - Was Diddy right about forcing Joe Biden to have an agenda for Black people?

"Today's episode of the breakdown. I WANNA take a few minutes to analyze something. That did he said yesterday in an interview with the supermodel Naomi Campbell. There's a lot of controversy surrounding it. I support what he said. I want to unpack and explain why I supported and where I think he's coming from then I'll even look at the other side of saying. Hey that's dangerous. It's reckless also. There's a brilliant new bill being proposed by two of my favorite people in Congress. Want to give you some insights on that with woman crush Wednesday segment and also WanNa give you an update on that horrible case that we I mentioned yesterday in Brunswick Georgia about the shooting. Death of young brother name Ahmad Aubrey. I'll give you an update on that as well. This is Shaun King you listening to the the the breakdown. The breakdown a breakdown. You never really know who's going to shine during a pandemic during a crisis but A person in a voice that I think has really stepped up in a major way has been Naomi Campbell who has done some amazing interviews and And even just had some conversations herself about the pandemic about politics and Of course I mean she is a woman who's traveled and seeing the entire world but she's just been brilliant throughout the pandemic with just deep insights and thoughts and yesterday she had a conversation with diddy and apart of that conversation was about the presidential race and did he gave his thoughts on it. And I want to play that clip for you now. Black born is now going to be for free. We're going to have to see some promises. What are we in return for? I'll quote nothing has changed for Black America and in order for us to vote for biding. We can't be taken for granted like we always because we're supposed to be Democrats off because people are afraid and trump so I was going to take him out. Community level was to make a deal. This is business at this point. You know we can't truth follow. Titians you know so. We WanNa know very clearly just like trump made it clear that he wanted to build the wall vitamins to make clear that he's GonNa Change Lives in quality of life of black and Brown people else. He can't get the boat. I will hold a vote hostage. Ivine now. I saw and heard that clip earlier this morning when my friend. Sholom in God. He posted it and he posted a loan. Caption if you go to my instagram now or Charlemagne's Instagram I reposted Charlemagne's caption where you could just go to Charlemagne's page and check it out for yourself. I agree with everything they did. He said they're like I. I would say it even stronger. I think it's it's ridiculous to say otherwise but it's a bit of a roar test Which wish if the ink blood tests where you Somebody shows you ink blots and you tell them what you see I heard what did he said. It was like Yep. That's right we need to make sure that Joe Biden actually has an agenda for us and I I heard that and I'm like yeah of course. What other scenario are we saying that we don't care if Joe Biden has an agenda for us because what did he is saying is true? Black people almost exclusively put Joe Biden in the position. He's in right now and he doesn't come close to winning. The presidential election in November without the black vote and all saying is. Hey we need to let him know. Hey if you actually in real life want us to show up and vote for you like in a major way if you want us to put you over the top talk to US clearly about your agenda show us the policies show us the plans show us the strategies instead of just saying that you're going to be different than trump or that. You're better than trump. Can WE BE PRACTICAL. Can you talk to us about your economic policies? Can you talk to us about your justice policies? Can you talk to us about your healthcare community development policies? Can You? Can you speak on these things? And I see several of my friends including Kenny Burns who? I'm doing an interview with later this afternoon saying. Hey Hey that's reckless asked my brother Isaac as the third also posting. Hey everything they did. He said right. There was completely wrong and I was shocked because everything I heard in everything charlemagne heard and and I see many of you even on my instagram debating. It right now. I agree with every bit of it. It's outrageous I mean if it's a city council person if it's a local mayor if it's if it's a state representative if somebody for Congress we should always require of them that they have an agenda that as much as we can make it is binding that they have some type of binding commitment to our concerns and other people are saying no no no. No No. Don't say that. Don't say that you just need to vote for Joe Biden no matter what. And here's the thing. Black folks are gonNA show up and vote for Joe Biden Black Folk vote almost ninety five percent for the Democratic candidate and black folk will show up. But what we know in Michigan in Wisconsin in a place like Georgia Florida North Carolina and others. Is that if you actually want to win? Black folk have to go all out and we saw that in two thousand and eight and two thousand twelve of course with Barack Obama but black folk while black folks showed up to vote in huge numbers for Hillary Clinton in any place where the turn out was depressed even a little bit in in Milwaukee in Wisconsin or in Michigan. She lost. And it's okay for us to say to Democratic candidates to democratic nominees. And let's be real as I record this. It's still April. Were still in the primary. It's okay in April to say. Hey Joe Biden I wanna make sure you actually have an agenda for US okay. Like that's not an let's be real did he is not making threat. He is saying that we all deserve to have a presidential candidate. That has an agenda that actually represents our needs. Our concerns are our biggest issues and that they have to have a plan. And we wanna see it because what we've seen for most of our lives is presidential candidates who desperately rely on our vote but have no agenda for us have no plans for us. They plan on being generally nice. But we need something more than general nicety like we need people that have an actual policy agenda for the concerns and issues that we have and I'm grateful For diddy who didn't say. Hey I'm not voting for Joe Biden he just said Hey We're at the stage. In American history where the Democratic candidate needs to have a serious agenda for black folk and anybody who looks at this situation says otherwise is ridiculous and I see other people saying. Hey He's saying that from a place of privilege I don't I don't understand that. No He's saying it from a position of authority of somebody who generally doesn't go into making a deal with somebody unless the deal is good for everybody in what we want to understand is HBO. We're GONNA make this deal with you. Not only where you are the Democratic nominee but where we go all out to make sure you win the race. Exactly what are you going to do? And if that's a problem for you saying something like that then we need to have a big conversation like we need to go deeper if saying that much Riles you up. And gets you frustrated? Then you have probably been eating crumbs under the table for so long that you are used to people over promising and under delivering. You're used to not getting anything like the U. S. just the standard and so I see a lot of what I think are just outrageous. Criticisms of what he said I think people understandably so so badly want to defeat Donald trump that they are afraid to even ask Joe Biden for favor and is lying. No no we can do. Both we can defeat Donald Trump and in April still argue that they are some things. Joe Biden needs to do and do differently for him to garner our full support. Right listen next up. We have a quick woman crush Wednesday segment. And then I wanNA talk to you about a new bill That's being proposed from Congress. Women were suited to leave and Paul I love and respect both of them and then we'll close with an update on the murder case in Georgia of Ahmad Aubrey. I'll be right back. My Name Is Maria Perez namely associate editor at Northstar as part of its women crush Wednesday series. The northstar highlight strong woman of color every week where breaking barriers and using their voices to help their communities. This week's inspiration is Chicago based activists Alicia smell just nineteen years. Old Alicia has already left her mark. Her Chicago community. The young activists was part of the youth led anti gun violence group. Good Kids Matt. City jumped to put in place a plan to help her community. When the corona virus pandemic made its way across the nation along with other young activists Alicia raised more than seven thousand dollars to purchase groceries for low income CHICAGOANS and provide emergency funds for those affected by the economic downturn. Alicia continues to advocate for the people of Chicago and others around the country who find themselves in food deserts. During the global pandemic we salute Alicia for her continued work in her community and inspiring young people around the country to give back to others to learn more about Alicia and why we're crushing on her in her work. Be sure to check out the northstar media on instagram. The breakdown breakdown you know. In government old habits die hard in this seems especially true in Congress where lawmakers just as we thought. They would fail to come through with the help. We desperately need in times of crisis. Consider if you will. The first corona virus stimulus stimulus bill that they passed in late March. It's called the cares act and it provided only a one time cash assistance check of twelve hundred dollars and that actually left out millions and millions of people who have not gotten a check to this very day and since then in early. March we are. It's almost may. Subsequent legislation has really just propped up the government's initial response. It's really been lacking in every detail in every bill has just been a battle with Republicans rejecting efforts to create a lifeline for the most vulnerable members of communities and then outright blocking funding to cities and states. That is win. They're not directly attacking the leaders of those cities and states under siege from this virus. So here we are. It's almost may days. After Congress returned from a long vacation to pass yet another band aid. Bill we could call it the stimulus bill. Three point five and our legislation our legislators rather return to their old habits in once again neglected cities and states and individuals in favor of businesses. And Not really small businesses. Of course the funds. They set aside for paycheck protection loans. Small businesses fall far short of what's actually needed to keep them running and make sure that employees are paid in millions of businesses. All over the country that have applied for assistance having gotten anything and even if there were enough money in this fund the application process has been a complete nightmare that has kept small businesses from accessing the relief that they desperately need now. I know it's easy to feel like everything. Awful and nobody in Congress is actually looking out for us and who could blame you because it often feels like that but you know the results sometimes speak for themselves but today I want to talk about some truly groundbreaking proposals from members of Congress who actually get it earlier this month. Representatives receipted to leave of Michigan in Premila Paul of Washington State propose something that they call the automatic boost to communities act or the ABC act. The bill would provide critical bridge to safety and security for the many people affected by this terrible virus including those who've been denied so far the critical cash assistance that they need and to lead John. Paul recognized that an all too many places in the United States even before this pandemic working fulltime job just wasn't enough for individuals of families to make ends meet so. Let me break down this bill under boost every person in the United States regardless of immigration status would receive a two thousand dollar debit card that includes undocumented immigrants in other people who may not have a permanent address such as native Americans in it also factors in dependence if representative to leave succeeds will see recurring payments after the one. Two thousand dollars payment the one time two thousand dollars payment you have recurring payments of a thousand dollars per month at a minimum going onto that debit card. That you get and it'll be there for you and your loved ones until one year after this crisis ends and more than that. The act guarantees a six thousand dollar tax credit for families and a three thousand dollar tax credit for individuals. Which if you wanted to you could even take an advance now to leave and J. Paul would fund this. And it's a brilliant idea and actually several economists have said he would work they would fund this bill directly through the American treasury through the creation of two one trillion dollar platinum coins made by the United States Mint yes to one trillion dollar coins and according to their plan the Federal Reserve would then purchase those coins from the US mid leaving it with two trillion dollars to sweep into the treasury account from there the cash would go into the bureau of the fiscal service. Which could then disburse the funds to every person in America in an ideal world this infrastructure flow of cash would be permanent that would be a part of universal basic income idea helping to lift families out of poverty and boy the under served and under bank communities who are struggling because of institutional barriers neglect or outright discrimination now to leave and John. Paul's BOO is an important step in the right direction for the United States when it comes to guaranteed income through the crisis. It's a policy that a majority of voters on either side of the aisle support. And it is by now as lawyers would say a res- Judo Kata. That is the matter is settled. And it's common sense that the best way to help people who are struggling in this country is not a paternalistically decide how to spin resources on their behalf but to directly provide them with financial resources so they can take steps to secure their own future not to be clear cash. Assistance alone isn't enough to surmount the barriers that so many people face cash alone can ensure that every person in this country has what they need to weather the crisis we need. Medicare for all. That's why to leave is also proposed the creation of what she's dubbed any emergency first responders core. Think of this new core that she's talking about as a new service branch of people who would deploy in cities and communities across the country to check on their most vulnerable residents those who must rely on others from for help from day to day. She is proposing new core. That would help the elderly. Those living with disabilities folks struggling with mental illness and others. Just trying to get by these responders for example would be charged with getting stimulus debit cards to people who can't receive them by direct mail for some reason or can't pick them up in person in this first responders core offer several layers of benefits to the American public. It's going to create jobs in the face of historic unemployment. And it's going to give people a way to give back to make sure that others aren't being left behind in these tumultuous times or denied the benefits that they're supposed to receive under the legislation that Congress is slowly passing to ease the effects of the pandemic in summary. Before we close on this topic this idea that congresswoman to leave has this first responders core is going to ease the economic devastation for those who are able to work. It's going to promote the health and safety of our most vulnerable and most importantly it's going to create a foundation for rebuilding communities after weeks and months of isolation breakdown yesterday here on the breakdown we started talking about the horrible racist case of murder in Brunswick Georgia where two white men got in their car and chase down. A young brother name Ahmad Aubrey. Who was jogging on a Sunday afternoon as he often dade through his own town in broad daylight on a Sunday afternoon which should have been the safest most secure day of the week and time of the day to be able to do such a thing but this is America and as he was jogging through the neighborhood? These two men father and son got in their pickup truck and car with a three fifty seven magnum and shotgun in chased Ahmad Down and shot and killed him and we are building a team of people behind the scenes that is preparing action steps for you to take and we may have those action steps available as early as tomorrow but when we do we need all hands on deck and I mean that would every fiber in my being. We're GONNA fight for justice for a MoD but it's GonNa take more than just me and a few of the people it's GonNa take all of us doing what we need to do. We have some creative ideas creative strategies for you and we're going to put some real pressure on them To to do what needs to be done here. All right so stay tuned for the action steps on how we're going to build some teams together to fight for a MoD. Let's do this and let's get ready all right take care bye. The burnt burnt break break. Break break thank the break remembering break the.

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NFL Player Jordan Matthews on Relationships & Routines

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NFL Player Jordan Matthews on Relationships & Routines

"You know that that's the mindset in this is culture that we live in right now I was saving. You gotta look at yourself and say, okay what am I willing to put up with Duong Wanna be in a relationship just for the sake of being a relationship and I gotta take all all this other stuff or am I willing to say okay like I'm going to advance my life. I'm going to build strong relationships with whoever got semicircle whoever got leads me to be around in if it grows something, it grows something. Hey is Logan Rene of the soil case podcasts a place where you will learn how to shape your own success, maximize your unique gifts, maintain yourself love, and so much more when we get back from thanking sponsors. Are you ready to snatch a permission, slip back and take charge of your life well, this podcast is sponsored by the number one new release book never asked for Permission Again, grab your copy today by clicking only in the show. And now Safa this occasion announcements, I don't know if you've been looking for a workout partner or you just want to switch up your workout routine, will we've started wellness Wednesdays in our private facebook group? There'll be a live instructor leading us in a thirty minute cardio. In Strip train workout you won't need any equipment, just bring water and your energy. Now, all you have to do is joined the free soil -cation trough facebook group by clicking on the leak in the show. Notes we all had to stay healthy. We always want to keep our waistlines snatched so we might as well do it together. So I'll see you all on facebook. Hi, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of this Okay Shin Podcast I. AM super excited because I have a special guest that you are about to enjoy a little snippet about him. He's a husband father six year. NFL veteran, he's the second round draft pick for the NFL he was SEC's all time leader in catches. Yards he was a two thousand fourteen. All American he graduated from Vanderbilt and he got a degree in economic. So then he reads you know he studies like. Jordan Mathews okay should probably. What's the? What's the? I've been waiting this podcast for a while and I've been looking. On the ground is on his. Way Hey and you are granted. We already know your routine. We don't talk about that too. 'cause I really WANNA. No. Matter of fact, let's start there. Okay. Important is a routine because there's a lot of people who are here saying I'm about to give them money I'm. About to start this new career these great. It sounds good. If you don't have a routine is not going to sustain. So what is why is that important? I'm a big proponent winning the whole day. You know a lot of people don't realize the way our minds is set up. You know whatever you let it will trigger your mind. That's what's GonNa come out, and so I always try to take hold of my day personally early any Costa had prices price senior high school, but definitely all throughout college Anthony Nfl they'll tell you like always one i. won the last one out and I'll tell them Tom ally that's not just football oriented alive. That is me getting my mind my by rights so that when I get to that I meeting. Like now, my coat has an owned my whole whole day. I'll take control of it on front end. So by the time, I get to football already won an out is the easy parcel. What I usually do is I start off by day usually waking up some time in these before six last? How's IT usually depends on? I can get sleep the night before Evan assigned makes hard we'll. Talk about that later. But if I could shoes five fifteen at the latest, I'm waking up at five fifteen an for the first five minutes a day I'm GonNa wake up on what get down my knees Prime Shane is knocked out steel even doing it saying quick prayer just to kind of get my day started being used to light candle one not workstations light a candle in reading Going through the new test right now with CENA, so try to couple chapters and then journal and I don't think you realize how much evidence around journaling berry is a how good it is. It really struck me because I would have a lot of anxiety some days don't in football practice especially going into camp, you gotta go Spot A- games. Shannon came and told me Jordan you. The reason why you're so anxious is because we get out there on the field, all that anxiety is finally coming out. You actually have the power put that out early in the day. So by the time, the game comes around it's already been gone. You've already processed that you've already put out there, and so now you can just plain and I remember her telling me this it was don't into my second stint with Eagles is after hours with the Patriots came back to the Eagles and changed everything for me. You know statistically, it was my lease. Statistically success you're an eagles, but to me, it was my most because that will not play the most free escort playoff game. I had a lot of fun. And just my tape I feel like my take your you could tell us plan free. So Journal. Though. Make sure always get some type of breakfast. Big Bench Person Breakfast. So pry sixty percent him plays plays betty's thirty percent grains, and then ten percent is some type of meat protein where. Whites or whole. Grasp vast sauce or something like that and and then Yeah Yoga I know right now I work out three days a week, Tuesday and Thursday a start on more now with Yoga Ouzou name my yoga teacher from California to do our job right stark fried and go do anything else. So I'm a big morning person big on routine. Okay California, getting the sack you know. Okay, he just literally gave was a whole routine. Okay for journaling. Is it writing down exactly what you're feeling is what you're hearing from. God what is that? So, for me most days is usually a prayer last time. So I'll wake up I I start saying what I'm thinking for it. I don't think people realize how be ov gratitude is going to day a lot of you wake up and they look at they falls and I'm telling you the so dangerous because the second look at your phone, you're looking at news debt. There's probably bad yaar internalizing woods bag on on the world. All the time, your world it's. Golic through Boy League Assoc me. So now you compare and I've always believed that comparisons to keep unhappy. So that's why I don't have an instagram. Is Bad I know people got promoted instagram people use the right reasons for me. Person Way my mind works I. Don't like it because I. Just me you know how? I'm looking online May. Get Coronado you as I don't like that amount by the people and wake up, they do that. So they're automatically compared is say let me wake up in thinking about what I'm saying for. So the first thing I said doing guy, thank you for this they from my fam-. Thank. You for the fact that woke up. Thank you for food on the table and it varies from to season of I'm healthy going in twelve season eighty for the fact that I practice today you know things like that in the end up on, it gets real specific when gold I got practice today you know help me today be the best that I can be safe things like that and then I usually in most modern View I'm just GonNa say right now look our view this like I'm not self-pity like if I'm going to do hard time in football at right now I'm not accepting that like we're to wake up. To your how to fix this because nobody is coming to save me. You know I got to figure this out in being a things in the pride over talkative nymph. There's a lot of things I'm site that has no place today in. Once I closed journal. I feel like address released so much that now I can actually just. I can just live now is everyday perfect. No but I will tell you this the days that I go through that routine stay on now is night and day. Than usual so. Tell me one life changing lesson she learned playing in avail. Man Life chain learning a couple I will say it can't give you two. So the first one is you gotta do more than what's required of you i. think that we live in we definitely live in a culture where people like, Oh, I did my job and I think that's important. You need to make sure you do that really well, but I think we're sometimes fluids about the fact that everybody don't got saying starting line. So if you try to advance your career, are you trying to make that jump in production? You might have to work harder than this other person it is not as cliche. Now, you couldn't more time because that person's parents. My already have a trust law for them that you don't guy you know what I'm saying or they might have connections in this company that you don't have. So you have to get a in that class. You would have to investing the NFL Tommy in playing at Vanderbilt was td when you come into vanderbilt right me and my teammates we looked a certain way. Okay and we played the Best Conference College football we play against Alabama LSU dim boys look different than us. Saying. Gladdens audio so people can see illustration been cast coming here right here and we come in here right here. We. Out in our. WHO STILL AHEAD We GonNA KISS so if we put an extra thirty. Okay. Extra thirty, I still got a little bit. You start making no you start making ground people don't realize that I gotta I have a Mentor Group of kids that I worked with a cannon New Jersey when I was when I was playing with Eagles and I would tell them guys tell me some things that true tell me about some things about being young black in America that are true especially coming out at Campbell talk about hard ever. See, very true they talked about some of the things that our guest you know systemic on the so true you know they talked about the things you know family wise things that are punishing media. You know we don't see a lot of families together from TV shows like other. So true you know in Canal let's talk about another truth. The world don't care. So. Best Sach. Those other things are very true bus, but the other party is the world's not coming state with. So we gotta look inside our sales. Internalized that true say okay we're GONNA. Use was been pushed up against those. To help us move forward. Okay. Yeah. We got a harder road but guess what I catch up with that person. They don't stand a chance because I've been through more go on the most successful people in the world. They've all been through adversity because they finally catch that person who had it easy. The personal had easy to stand a chance as bass where I was able to our. That was one of the big lesson learned, and that's where you know the NFL. Really really helped me. In the second thing was Kinda wild to before is the fact that you know we live I think a lock you are expecting somebody to come to a rescue. In right now with what's going on look they best in a stimulus jet you know this crazy right this whole coronavirus things out of control but. Dave you baptists normalcy. So. Many people will be going through life and psych. They expect somebody to come in and just get him out of the situation. And I'm dislike that's not the case my second year. I was having a rough season gray rookie year head was having a rough season and Makoto time chip Kelly detail that I was. You know just Dow wasn't my normal cell overthinking but more than anything a looking for somebody. Sorry for honestly while it back. He comes music joining I'll tell you something. Eighty percent people don't care about your problems and twenty percents I'm glad you got him. So. Go to work and fictional situation in at that point I was like. Lord. How How I, got wouldn't next two years. That's. Repainted plain repeated eight. Okay. Okay. Ms Chip Kelly head coaching UCLA now. Real good friend of mine. He told me Jordan eighty percent of people do not care about your problems in twenty percents. Glad you got and Right there. Right. Then and there I said okay. This pity thing and I like us not not known as a little bit more bad fate my wife you know what? I'm saying I'm no family I know I have a good support system that do care but in France scheme of things guess what that person got problems too. And that's what he was really and. That's what I've seen is like you know you can sit up Kirby thing go. On stage with other people, you might end up taking yours back. You know but I think it was just going through that situation near. Relentless a grown as league in the NFL. There's always somebody coming to get you an s being like about football is so tough. So real. And it is the most I. think it corresponds the most liked to guarantee basketball again, t contract chase him enlightening none guaranteed. So that's different. You know what I'm saying baseball saying NFL. Place we in life like we can meet somebody that's working ibm they look we might be on the same page late in some shape or fashion, but that's just the game I love it I. Love it to this day is something netted really changed my life Beautiful Way I know my wife is cycling. So she says she playing real football. Is Yet to be determined she gonNa let let my son play but we'll see. A lot for me our brain still intact to so it's been a blessing. Okay. So this switch gears. A Hassle Selah point for a lot of companies brands as when you get this, you will feel this. You can make book. Now you feel like you belong you the marriage. Now you feel like you're important are your chosen when you get the title or the business up and running now everybody knows that you made it right Way. What have you learned contradicts that statement. Yeah I can speak from. Pretty. Much Experience and I will say, I'd even probably have even more insight. One. Super Bowl. That last thing where you've got. The the biggest store in the world big league NFL. So the biggest prize essentially suit bone I'd been there have been there and I've been in locker room with the team far as the eagles lily up to years that they went, and then I came also year right actor. So I still saw law the dynamics I can tell you right now the guys that were happy before they went and wants to vote. San Do our happy APP same news ahead. Joy Saint Ahead Gillette Sanchez are miserable same cast their Ms Weber the same guys who did not understand they purpose or do not are had emptiness. Won The super bowl. Same guys and so it's people all time like you know you gotta you gotTa be really careful. Stock how much weight you put into things that that can die you know I I'm just as I think you have you can have fun with it and I think life is meant to be enjoyed I? Don't say I don't mean that but you know it just. Be Honest with it. At some point, there's going to be another person that comes in and when. Playing. Great what I'm done. There's GonNa be another Jordan Mathews. I didn't enjoy. It was a waste a put too much stock in it. Not GonNa be worth nothing at three, four, five, six years as a half forward it use to network, use it to grow relationships so. I think that's the biggest thing and I'm not saying that I figured this out. I'm not saying that I still don't. I see a Jordan man I think that'd be complete with those on my feet history i. think he just natural I think is human nature where where we sometimes we sometimes fall into that but I can tell you. From experience to as far as I being like family man. Now, you know when me shine a light. Sit Down after successfully Joseph Sleep to watch like a movie together, and then we talked about the movie assessing our break. I'm may we could have done this? No matter what how much money I was made like the best things in life can join meal together going to the movies going on wall having a child you'll need a lot of money prestige your fame to do these things and the things that make us they give us the most joy. Took people you know my situation is for me guy had his plans for me to be married. Some people might be a single. That might be having a good fred that the able to do that with it might be having a sibling. You know it might be just themselves loved as reading and writing, but there's so many things that were able to enjoy that you don't need all the other things in order to experience that. So I just took time. No. Cole bj Fans Rabat's actually talk about something but he's got a saw her one of his albums where he actually says he's like he know he's telling these people like people. You tell them as much as you want to is not as good as it seems everything that glitters isn't go but they always say you know until I experienced how can I know? And I think. That's always that's just human speech that look I had a million dollars. I wouldn't have reacted saying same person you're. So I. The whole time like if you as you go to those dreams just continue to. have. Those racists had those people in your corner like I say, Hey, like remember like these things are most important. We go slip on FOB hopefully, we can get to the other side. Still being attacked, you know as far as our spirits are. Good. You actually into a partnerships and relationships. So how do people feel those gene relationships genuine partnerships with bathroom I'm about to use these person because people don't go after going up speaking to somebody a networking event or put himself out there to conference or even social media say, Hey, I, love your stove would love just to ex- you a question or something like that. How do you build Jean relationships without in the back your hair saying? Well, I'm just trying to use his person right so I I I personally believe that the best relationships happen when two people don't mature the same thing it's in his in his last time is not sometimes each other he knows. I think. Like I'm so glad is on video spook actually seen. So needless ENA started a dating. It was Kinda explain us like this we boat right here. Okay, and if up here is ultimate growth alternate juror ultimate enlightenment you knows the ultimate connection with lower than if I'm going this way. She's going this way what we do. End Up meeting at the perfect point where now there's something else that we both the stock but help us come teach other. Now what happens if I'm just trying to get her attention and she's going? To miss each other you. It's not going to end up being now I'm just doing the League is trying to get all my joy from her. She's like you gotta be able to be by yourself. Still be field you know. I found the same thing was true of because we talk about these relationships are being always dating on same thing with my teammates. All of my teammates I'm still close friends with Van bewigged I guarantee you I got to football when I got to Team and not the man I cannot wait to make some France though is not what Else Stadium Osama come here I'm going to graduate. I'm going have a chance to go possibly play in the NFL makes of myself. I'm GonNa get good grades. I'm not leave here with a baby like he knows saying. Right. All of my friends, my close friends, you can look every single one of us by the time we graduated all of us had a job. All of us had a chance to play the NFL. All had aspirations of doing some the NFL all of us eat on I'm saying Had you know for the most part stable relationships? I mean even to the littlest thing? Elvis. Had like I'm not saying tattoos are bad thing just so crazy how similar we were yeah we're in. We had this connection and it wasn't because we got some football team that. BE SUPER BECAUSE FRIENDS We got there and I started saying I'm grinded I'm going to that thing and you meet me there in a cast. Met Me there with dooms. We weren't all the same but we all had this. We all had his drive in the same thing with my wife like I've got this thing going to you know as she had this thing that she was going tours, and so we always gonna be each other there and that's helping the relationship grow of I think best sometimes the big friends who were. You know who young ladies who, maybe like doing okay. I'll pride try today to and I'm like man like. That's why I love what you're doing the because I. Tell You. If you're going to what you going after like. Trust, me trust me a dues on wise who also going that way he This is a partner this is the friendship. This is something that can last. You know it was nothing that made me more fearful of a relationship with one thousand, four hours married or something that may be observed. One of my friends I'm like you're going with this thing. Is only going after you. You know. I think you can do both you know some powerful thing that I'm me Shane have been able to trust the first time. I saw her. I. Was like, Oh my gosh like will be saying you as a S. If she ain't on woody's you know. In my mind my mind you know. People camp on campus call her Naomi Campbell. That's how you know. So beautiful she was but. As Green you. Now if at that point, I would say, okay, my sole purpose is. You know only than I feel like. It wouldn't been the same. I think Shane appreciated the fact that she saw me also trying to grow myself. I was interested. You know she was hard on she was real hard on me but. You know. Law and so now I think is the building blocks for a real relationship. I'm a mare's with my friend. You know not just married with a trophy you know is not Fran is a lager is she kept caps lake. So made of attributes because we were able to build it on something that was just bigger ourselves so good. Let's go into that a little bit because. A lot of women feel like we had the contour shape band to fit the mold like you plan for NFL in of course, he is a professional soccer player, but he's still a warming. So WanNa feel alike have to be disdain in order to get low. So what would you say to women feel like they have to change everything about themselves just to get the rain now? And I think to one I sympathize for sure because I know I grew up in a culture where that is that's on low girls buried time they're young. and. The Disney movies are changing now you watch the now like. A lot more than are saying, okay, we're GONNA. You look frozen. Zootopia okay. We're GONNA take this girl and she's going to be the hero. She'll need prince charming come after. I. Think There's power in that because you know our generation, it was about to prince charming came to movie star. It'd be Snow White Cinderella had to. Aladdin, you know every single war. Your charm and S Not always the case you know and so. Was So sad to me is I thought I grew up in I grew up around a coach who is like if a one was so successful. But she didn't have a man down the Nar. Oh, she can't keep a man maybe he. You know like. Right, you know what I'm saying like I. Don't know. 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Special Edition: Rafat Ali on the Month the World Stopped Travelling

The Business of Fashion Podcast

39:52 min | 6 months ago

Special Edition: Rafat Ali on the Month the World Stopped Travelling

"The longer will we look at the person Weistein. Their airplane seat as crazy a win. The travel industry is hurting by extension. The fashion industry is hurting. Some people are hoping that that'll be fashion weeks in September. And what's your view? I don't see any scenario. Any scenario where September a physical event can happen anywhere in the world above fifty people with any semblance of safety. It'd be responsible for the fashion industry to attempted. This is Ron Ahmed founder and CEO of the business of fashion and welcome to another special edition of the podcast. This week. I sat down with Rafaqat Ali founder and CEO of skipped now Robert and his team at skift have been trying to understand the impact of the corona virus crisis on the travel industry in the same way that we have been trying to navigate the corona virus crisis for the fashion industry. Now what few people really appreciate is just how interconnected the fashion and travel industries are about forty percent of luxury consumption is linked to travel and in two thousand nineteen. Chinese consumers took more than one hundred and sixty six million trips abroad. Accounting for about fifty percent of their total spent. Travel Retail alone is worth seventy nine billion dollars so when people stop traveling they stop spending on fashion and so I thought who better to speak to than rothen to learn how the corona virus crisis is impacting. The travel industry and how the travel industry is likely to change once the lockdown start being lifted. So here's Robin are- inside fashion. New Good afternoon are good morning? Rafa power you. It's yeah you're you're in New York. I am in New York. Yes the the global hub of pandemic not travel but pennock certainty at this point yet. The numbers coming out of New York have continued to look increasingly scary. What's what's the situation there right now. What's the VIBE? Yeah I mean we're closed. All of us are closed and The numbers are scary. And they're still you know hundreds of people dying every day in New York state as well as New York City which is primarily in New York City and You know feel surreal have not been in office To the office in about a month and a half and even though it's only twenty five minutes subway ride away it feels like a whole world away at this point. It feels like I'm going to travel to my office which you never used the word travel To going to office and just getting into the subway is seems to be a scary thought for a lot of people not just me but unfor- but obviously a lot of people are still using it because that's what they have to you so yeah it's it's Surreal and we know that New York would be the last city in the world probably to open up. How or seems like what it is? We've gone through some scars. I mean we've had nine eleven here on this financial crisis not just New York but the world over so I was here during both of those times. New York after nine eleven was a was a tough tough place to be in but this is a whole different level. Yeah it certainly as well rough it. I'm so pleased to talk to you today because for those of our listeners. Who Don't know Roth it. Does the closest thing out there to be off before a completely different industry. The travel industry which is like fashion one of the world's largest industries employing millions of people. And when I was thinking about people that I wanted to talk to about the pandemic for the latest in our series of special editions Here on the Bureau of podcast. Rafa came to mind because actually though fashion and travel seem worlds apart they're intimately interconnected and you know a huge portion of the fashion consumption and purchases in the world happened when people are traveling so when the travel industry is hurting by extension. The fashion industry is hurting. And Roth at I. I'm so glad to talk to you but should we talk a little bit first about the state of the travel industry today. I mean as you just mentioned. This is an industry that has faced huge shocks before with nine eleven and SARS and the financial crisis you what travel has stopped before in the world who how is this crisis. Different for the travel industry than the previous crises. Yeah nine eleven was sort of a one and done to use a crude phrase happened. Wants one day or spread over few days and then the travel industry did start back. Yes we were in a recession after the financial crisis that happened in two thousand and eight two thousand nine similar which is travel exist. It's just much less than what it used to. Obviously this is a whole different level list says travel has stopped for in Asia. Starting pretty much in late Jan Feb the rest of the world I was in March would become the month that will be remembered in history is the the month that the world stop traveling the World Stop. Forget traveling. The world stopped. They did if they don't travel the world stops and You know in fact I was thinking about. We should do oral of March twenty twenty at some point in the future of what happened in the traveling district. Low Blind Blow by blow and It's been severely impacted. It's as you said. One of the largest industries it is intertwined in every sector in the world including yours and by travel stopping. The world has stopped and I think in ironically I would say for the first time in a long time the world the larger world is realizing how consequential the travel industry is by the sheer fact that the industry stopped. And so it's in a bad shape and obviously airlines hotels destinations and majority of the travel industry. Small and medium-sized businesses. I'm guessing much like fashion. Where all the big names in? There's a long tail of of small business. Travel has the same thing and so it is existential. For hundreds of thousands of businesses millions and millions of jobs. Are there some estimate that hundred million jobs in travel will be lost during this pandemic? This is not us this global number and And then you could add induced effecting in restaurants in other parts of the of of other sectors. So it's it's a huge number The the good news is that search for most of the world governments have deemed travel as very hits sector which means that David special focus on helping it Comeback Airlines. There's a good chance very few airlines. Will God a business from bankruptcy perspective? The ones that were troubled to begin with Virgin Australia Norwegian etc etc are the ones that are close to bankruptcy now or have already declared it but the generally the state of the airline industry was generally held the coming into this and governments have deemed that there's an show so they're bailing them out in various ways. Us is a prime example of Hotel Industry Also they've been bailouts also in US in other countries as well so So generally speaking. I think there's a sense. That travel is a very essential sector Yes it will take probably the longest come back. There's just a lot of hurdles and we can talk about that on what that means but beginning to see some signs. I think even just today as we're seeking there's news that Greece says they will open up in July two by just announced overnight that they're gonNA open up in July. Obviously with with measures to the distant opening up means doesn't Going to even commerce just for locals so I think all of those things where we are grappling with but when the when the travel industry does return and it will return as you say it's going to look and feel really really different from the travel industry being you just six seven weeks ago. Who where you know people like you and me you know we're jumping on planes all over the world. I used to travel a hundred and fifty days a year. Bear on the road We you know effortlessly jumped on planes. Talk to me a little bit about how you travel will look when we do start opening up. Yeah so I think one will open up in phases. It'll be a long long period of different faces. That are that are going to be there. So the first one that potentially will come back and rotary seeing signs of it in China because obviously China has reopened to a good extent is domestic travel and so not even just domestic domestic would be within the country local as in your local two hours outside of London two hours outside of New York tight distance drive distance and they're not talking about airplanes. You're talking about road trips. I think girl trip so personal Like no longer. Will we look at the person who's who wiped on their airplane seat as crazy? Remember we used to look at some people used to do that instead. These are wide. They're doing it now. One of them was Naomi Campbell by the way who who's video on? Youtube went viral last year when she I mean you need to watch this video because new remember it was. It looked insane at the time now. It looks prophetic. You know. Yeah so all. This is all of us early like we will be traveling with our own hygiene cleaning supplies. That is the reality for us. Going ahead Personal control of your own space. I think is very important. So at least in this initial phase over the next. Let's say rest of the year and so what that means. Is Your your car your house dry from your car to someplace Whether it's a cottage somewhere that you can personally clean yourself. Even those being cleaned by. Let's say whoever the owners and so that seems to be the first phase of what will happen domestic travel within the country. Our country has giant is. Us means air travel. And even though there's some early indications that the the boarding process for instance and the check in process at airports in China's completely changed there's like fifteen twenty more steps in that whole process even though we already had all those additional security checks post nine eleven so now we're talking more checks which means more time spent at airports correct even more time spent at airports so we have to be ready for that. I Guess Airport Retail. Which is your part of the world fashion. Etcetera is probably looking forward to that just because there's just people with more time in their hands spending more time at airports and airport retail Which a lot of it is on the luxury and fashion as you know So I think the the checking the boarding the security and it's already happening where the where in China the Middle East have been taken out of. The flights that I think will be the norm for a while to come to whenever the vaccine etc I know. Emirates has started something where they're checking every person boarding four virus. I guess they have the resources to be able to do that. Not every airline has that resource testing people'd so if you WANNA IF YOU WANNA test. If you're not getting anywhere the trick is to book numbers flight today right so and they may only be doing may be in. Dubai. That's my guess Because that's where their home bases A. Us doesn't have enough tests. To how are they going to do that? I mean there aren't many flights coming. I don't think there's any number slice coming to the US But jet blue in American for instance announced that you have to mandatory. Wear mask if you come on a plane. American said they will supply them asks. Obviously many people may or may not have access to masks as well so these types of sanitize travel is our future at least for now. That's interesting and I know you said that may be. The kind of traveled retail. People will be happy to have people spend more time in airports but as I think about already the feeling of frustration and stress and discomfort. That people already have in having Navigating their way to the series of Jackson Processes at the airport. Now if I'm adding onto that a layer of anxiety around the virus and wearing masks and don't you think that's going to have a psychological impact people whereas once they might have been waiting in the lounge at the airport you know spotted a Protestant and decided to nip in to see something now. It feels like people's attention is just turned away from that kind of consumption especially in a context where you'll everything is even more stressful and involved than it was before yeah you. You're probably right there. Obviously you can also imagine. People's power have been hit across the board not just not any sector every sector that that every demographic or or Earning power is hurting today. So of its consumption of luxury. Goods is world that you cover Is is likely going to be affected? One of the things. We're exploring as its as it relates to that as luxury travel and I'm guessing you we may come into that but like will luxury travel. Come back in the way that it was before Would conspicuous consumption be Out of fashion for a while like it was a bit after nine. Eleven if you're a member and even after the financial crisis so certainly they'll be a sentiment around that that will affect the luxury travel industry for while to come but you could argue that. The type of sanitized travel that you want is available in that part in that sector just more resources more personnel more ability to more space whether it's a resort a luxury resort luxury villas or private planes etc etc so And certainly the people that have the capability to do that before would still have the capability to travel after So you would imagine that. Be Fine if not at the level. I mean no. No part of travel will be at the level that it was before but I do think that ledger travel probably is fine fact wellness which is becoming a bigger bigger part of travel like wellness and hygiene so hygiene in wellness meats and that becomes luxury. Going ahead yeah. It's interesting because for a while. Now we've been watching the rise of what people have been calling experiential luxury which includes things like travel and food and wellness experiences. So you're saying that because of the nature of that travel in the kind of space and experiences that it provides but also because of the nature of that customer and potentially their relative resilience G- To kind of weather this economic storm. Maybe that travel comes back. That probably bodes well than for some parts of luxury travel retail and fashion because those customers might be also the first to come back. That's also what we're predicting in terms of which parts of the industry will come back. I think the thing that we're discovering though and I'm curious I'm curious to your take on this is is it just GonNa come back at a much lower level so we are last year for example. The you mentioned China. Chinese consumers took a hundred sixty six million trips abroad. Who accounting for about fifty percent of the spend in our industry love when when they start traveling again For example we don't expect them to continue to travel at that rate and account for that much of the industry correct one of the big things that obvious to travel in the industry. We follow every micro movement of Chinese travelers abroad. It is the biggest global force and travel as you know and Unfortunately obviously there's the perception that is a Chinese virus which means that China's travers themselves when it does reopen will probably be traveling outside less And so that would definitely affect Travel sector and the fashion industry in the fashion sector as well. A retail in general as well So definitely that's the case. One of the big things that has come out of this Ford. The destinations that depend on Chinese travelers heavily is to do more diversification. I mean as in any business in life lesson that you and I have learned. Diversification is the most important thing in the world and so diversification of of source markets in this case. China needs to be there so whether it's Sri Lanka being more focused on Indian travelers versus Chinese travelers. That is 'cause Indians our neighbors that says just a random example Europe in Europe the majority of the of the tourism is within the countries to begin with it just it will become even more important so European. Eu tourism a European tourism within the continent will become even more important so I think Chinese travelers that were such big spending Force the largest global spending force really in travel are no longer will not be for a while to come. I'm curious talking a bit more about the Chinese traveller because as you pointed out they're also the most important customer for our industry you know when I speak to our friends and contacts in China you know life is slowly returning to normal certain regions in China are seeing a huge upsurge in a buying at certain like Armez And now they're calling it revenge buying so it's like this pent up demand but you know what are the patterns that you're already seeing in China. That could pri say you know what we might expect in the in travel in the rest of the world like they are clearly not able to travel outside China at the moment. The what are these internal domestic traveling trips like. I've also heard for example that countries like Korea and Japan and Singapore may benefit from went. Win The one borders finally opened up. People might want stay closer to home in a. Yes Oh definitely Southeast Asia which is where geographically adjacent to China already was a big destination Thailand. Obviously we did a story yesterday or just this week on. How Thailand is betting its rebound on Chinese travelers coming back to Thailand Thailand. Strangely hasn't been hit as bad as you would imagine. Somebody suggested to China even though testing may be low etcetera etcetera. It's still is not as badly hit as you would have originally thought. In fact Singapore now is the worst hit out of all of those countries in that region and so definitely the Southeast Asian market will quite a bit Australia probably be also because it's relatively geographically close and can market itself as as a clean and hygienic destination when it does open up for that so I think definitely that's the case long-haul Chinese traveller weather's Paris or New York or La etc that hugely dependent on you know the highest ending? Chinese travelers would definitely be hit at least for the next year two years so I think that's what I'm sure you're hearing from from your side of the world to yeah. It's interesting because the thing that used to really derive the travel trends amongst the Chinese traveller before was where they could get the best deal because they exchange rates for example in Japan a couple of years ago they exchange rates to the yen were so favourable that it created this wave of travelers to Japan. There was also a wave of travelers to Russia. But now I guess as you point out maybe one of the most important considerations is which countries are deemed to be safe so Australia for example has really managed to contain its own epidemic and the number of cases and deaths has has been Flatten very very quickly Australia New Zealand. So maybe maybe in addition to proximity the other thing people will be looking at is like where is safe to go. Yeah and there's already movement things like what they're calling immunity passport so people that are one that are clear to travel to certifications whether in the hotel industry are destinations themselves on cleanliness standards. Airbnb and the short term rental vacation market. Just launched something on the enhanced cleaning standards for AIRBNB and in between the the two stays a window of anywhere from twenty four to seventy two hours before the Before anybody can can go in just so that it kills you know they can clean and kills the virus etc. Those types of things are coming in the hotel industry while a core Hilton Marriott. Everybody's launching these everybody's touting ours is the best of this but They are tying up with. Lysol are different disinfectant companies or or these hygiene companies on touting cleaning standards or that they will have these cleaning standards going ahead countries that have stamped it out so Australia is an example New Zealand as an example maybe some Scandinavian countries as an example. The question will be the political will of the politicians. They're on reopening. A lot will depend on that because of the perception of China potentially bringing the virus in some circles right deeply in a country that has already been polarized like Ustralia. Yeah I mean there's there's been such a kind of damaging narrative around the source of the virus and some pretty heinous attacks and racism against not just Chinese but any Asians dropping earlier this year so while by that token at this point Americans should be the most discriminated against people in the world at this point and You know we are global hub of this virus today and so Even internally within the US restrictions on people from New York State in New Jersey State coming into other states is mandatory. Some some states have some quarantine Put in some way illegal etc etc. So I think we'll see some of these some of these restrictions because of the political nature of unfortunately what has happened not just domestically but also globally so that will depend a lot on where Chinese travelers end up. So now I'm GonNa ask you an impossible question because if I have like one of the world's foremost experts on the travel industry and if our industry is dependent on travel than obviously my question is as rapid like in your view. When does this really start to open up in terms of getting the whole industry back in action maybe not at the same levels? Clearly there's going to be you know fewer flights and all of that but you know I'm thinking our industry is thinking. I had September and the fashion weeks that happened in September and his people are. Some people are hoping that they'll be fashion week since September in my view has been not so sure we're going to be in in a situation where international travel is going to be possible. I mean what's what's so so. Are we talking about fashion week in New York Fashion Week in New York Paris London and Milan? Yeah so we not only cover the travel industry. We do our events as yeah stop. Physical no events. Most of them are New York City. We are planning for zero physical events rest of the year. All virtual re- had five events from September to December. I don't see any scenario. Any scenario where September physical event can happen anywhere in the world above fifty people with any semblance of safety. It'd be responsible for the fashion industry to attempt it so summer of Is COMING UP BIG SEASON FOR TRAVEL? This summer is is is pretty much shot. Meaning like very low will be will be what we just talked about. Local next summer potentially assuming some vaccine comes in the first quarter of next year to start some growing back with the travel industry. Also these things take time so after nine eleven for the passage numbers to go back air. This is the airline passenger numbers to go back to the pre nine eleven numbers took three years July. Two thousand four to two thousand one two thousand four to three years for the numbers to go back to that number after Financial Crisis. It was about two years southwest. Ceo Maybe Delta CEO said last week in earnings call. We've been estimating that that this is probably a five year journey. Not that travel will be in the gutter for five years. It just means for it to even come anywhere close to Device numbers were looking at a twenty twenty five at this point and some sectors of travel may not ever come back to the level that we were cooper travel for all the reasons that you and I know people may not be doing that. Many business trips were used to doing what we're doing now which is Recording virtually and that becomes the norm in many ways for a life events are The giant convention that used to happen very much in your city and our city etc etc. Men Not men not be that size evert going ahead may not come back to that so I think we're looking at a tree. Five Year journey for for things to come back to somewhere close to levels that were In terms of of that journey of estate will start a little bit this fall for really talking summer next season with maybe early evidence of vaccine maybe some a mix of vaccine associated distance travel with interesting. So I think that's probably what you're looking at is the key to unlocking the travel. Shut down the vaccine. There's some people talking now. I think there's over a hundred teams of scientists around the world working on vaccines. The the most hotly tipped one that people are talking about here. Is that Oxford University of same store. I'm hearing that. There's some manufacturers that are already producing that vaccine now in hopes that it might be approved and they'll have millions of doses ready. I mean in a scenario however slim the likelihood that is in a scenario like that do you think it changes everything. Yeah yes of course. I mean if the vaccine comes a changes everything but what it doesn't change the destroyed economic power of the world the the millions and millions of people that have lost livelihood. It's not like vaccine comes. Let's Rehire everyone. Yeah because the demand has to be there and with the with the economic Destruction that has had not just economic social and everything on the world. I think economists and I'm certainly not one have said that this could be depression. Let just a recession so So I think you know. The planning has to be more realistic than there's tons of pent up demand because people have been sitting in their houses. And there's GonNa be a flaw people gushing out of their houses. Certainly that was the case. In China in the first two weeks of reopening the occupancy levels have stagnated sense hotel occupancy levels in China it was early from zero to thirty percent at stagnated at that for the last few weeks. That's because those were either medical workers or health workers or or people going back to their works. You know from their from their cities and towns back to their work cities you will see some of the pent-up demand immediately comeback traveling district that that will be just a baseline that from there. The travel industry will have to build and as you know as as we mentioned. International cross border travel really depends in many ways on vaccine coming and and not just vaccine coming in. Then it's getting propagated then a base level of immunity happening across so that I'm sure any any doctor. Scientists will tell you takes a while and the one thing I I tweeted this. Maybe a week ago if you've seen the inequities in the world so far in the last two months wait until the vaccine comes in you will see that inequity even more because who gets it first. How did they get it? Out of the get access will be completely lay back there. The the all the all the disbalances of the world even more so so be very interesting. Yeah interesting and harrowing. Because I like you say if there's one thing that's happened is. This crisis has laid bare. Just how aunt unequal the world is in our in. Our industry been looking at the impact on garment workers in Bangladesh India and elsewhere. Who you know through this lockdown. There's like furlough schemes to save those workers. You know it's been. It's been devastating. The one thing that I think that it doesn't you have covered this for years. And we have covered this rise of Asia so to speak in in our world right the the the coming of the east to the West and their economic power. They're they're social Cetera ET CETERA. I think this this only reinforces it. Because you know Western world. Every infrastructure weakness etc has laid bare over the last two three months and in fact many Asian countries have recovered faster in terms of putting systems in place and so in many ways in travel. And maybe even in Fashion Asian consumers and travelers. Some buyers become even more important going ahead. Because because there's that is not just the future of the world that the president of the world Rapid I'd be remiss as fellow media entrepreneur not to ask you bet about how you're thinking about the business that you're running which is effectively a very similar business to be O. F. I mean what with no physical events this year? How how is this transformed the way you are thinking about skift? Yeah I mean look. We've been We've been hit as badly as you can imagine. We are in travel we are. We events is a big part of our business. It also hit us in key. One which tends to be our our our lowest cash flow quarter so Q. Two Q. Three Q. Four are much bigger for us and we were on a path like we were going to grow forty percent revenues this year forty percent in year nine of our business Much of it predicated on Unfortunately events so obviously all those numbers are out of the window In one of the things we've done. Is I think very similar to you. So we we've had to do cuts in the company. Unfortunately deep cuts in the company. But what what we've tried to do is to keep editorial intact because it's the story of our lifetimes this is the biggest story anybody's ever covered in our sector in pretty much every other sector and if we're not there for the industry covering this deciphering this helping them understand what's happening than why should they be there for us when when when the recovery happened so us with made sure to keep editorial and research which which is the other part of business Intact for most part so that they can do the best source of their of their life star and then they're the engine of recovery when the recovery starts because our our value has been validated ten times over the last two months It's it's evident from everybody that has our traffic is up three or four times normal traffic. It was march. Was that April. Even though many other new sites are saying there's they're coming off. The highs. April will be high for us as a march one inch traffic our with pivoted quickly to online events. And certainly they're not anywhere near physical events at all and by the way. I'm sure in your world. A lot of events and fashion our ballpark that estimating that if you were doing of one day event that let's say your banking a million dollars in revenue in a physical event in a virtual event. In a best case scenario. You're probably talking twenty five to thirty percent revenues from a physical event That's a good scenario like you've you've won if you if you're getting two hundred thirty percent of that revenue. Obviously it's a lot cheaper to do. The margins are astronomical for Good B2b Media Industry Event Margins. Where what fifty percent in a in a in a great scenario now the margin ninety percent. Yeah yes the numbers aren't as high but the margins are really high. Kosov is just video software. It unlocks so many more possibilities of types of speakers and geographies and just the numbers etc etc. So I am much as we've lost a good part of our business. I'm going to run with what I have. Which is this is the card we've been dealt we're going to pick it up and run with it and so So that's what we've been doing now. It all it all make sense and it sounds very familiar in terms of just having to become the de facto. Go to resource for your community in your industry and been looking at the stuff coming out of skipped. It's been really impressive. I'm grateful that you took the time to share your insights today. United sad our industries are so closely intertwined. Unfortunately too much is unknown. People don't talk about that but I know you understand that very well now. The fate of the travel industry and the fate of the fashion industry are therefore closely intertwined as well. So thank you for your Your your inputs and your ideas and your insight because you know. It's some tough talk messages because for those listeners. Who are hoping that. We'll all be traveling back Sometime this year. It sounds like that's a long shot and if there's a way to build in a drive throughs on those road trips into your travel retail strategy that maybe you should look at that. I bet that's already being part of it. Yeah absolutely thank you. Of course they can. I'm Ron Ahmed. Founder and CEO of the business of fashion. Thanks for joining us for this special edition of the podcast tune in next week. We'll have more for you on. The Global. Pandemic impacting the fashion and the travel industry. And come to us for the latest insights on the professional your go-to resource during these times of trouble. Same next read if you've enjoyed this episode. Don't forget to subscribe give us a rating and you might be interested in joining the business of fashion. Global Membership Community B. O. F. Professional are members receive exclusive deep dive analysis. 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