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The Secret History of the Future
"nadir goff" Discussed on The Secret History of the Future
"Are our brothers and sisters, our Friends. Our family. We are done watching them die. We are no longer bystanders. We will not be idle. Enough is enough. That wasn't for black folks in America. No. The narcissism of that, I think is also what cringey. We have, I think human beings, and this is just my belief. And anyone who listens to through line will know, this is just the kind of threat of the show that we have a kind of innate faith that human beings are much more communal, and much less self centered in our nature than the modern world makes us out to be. It's that the Internet and the way everything is designed makes us act and appear more narcissistic. But one of the reasons we're also depressed, at least in the west, and the more industrialized countries of wealthier countries is that we are really, we're living in a narcissistic kind of world where everything's self centered and that makes us sad and depressed. But that in our nature, deep down inside, we want to help people. We want to be in other people's lives. We want to be out and about and connected with community. And there's something deeply opposite of that. With what both macklemore did and those celebrities in that strange video and that George Floyd summer. They made it about them. When it was supposed to be a communal moment, you know what I mean? Yeah, and it's extremely transactive in that it's asking for the benefits of an apology, which is absolution. But without actually giving anything up. A real apology doesn't ask for the person who is harmed to do anything really. Yes. It doesn't require them to say, I forgive you. It doesn't require forgiveness. Justice and forgiveness are two separate things. And so I think that's what one of the things in your episode that really kind of struck me was that restorative justice can happen without the victim or the person who's harmed having to take it upon themselves to be the bigger person. That's right. Tommy shakuras is a great case of that because it's not clear to him if, you know, the letters he wrote to the families of the victims of his actions ever read them. It's not a neat tidy story, right? This is messy and complex, and that's what I left thinking of it, too. After working on this episode, but I also left the episode believing is that it's worth fighting for. Not giving up on the process of an apology or restoring justice or restoring kind of balance to society through this process is worth fighting for. I think about its very small communities. I mean, if it's just like rewind 20,000 years ago, most of our ancestors were living in really small communities. But they weren't, they weren't angels, right? There was things bad things that happened then too. There was all the tensions that we have today. They weren't that much different from us in a lot of ways. And I think they had more of a practical pragmatic need for trying to solve tensions or figure out how to move on from a really horrendous thing. And so the apology, the process of atonement was most likely born out of that necessity, and they needed it. They needed it to survive, to literally make it to the next season to make it to the next year. And we need to fight for it in that way. We need to find a way to bring apologies back to take them out of their current state of being commodified and cheapened. Otherwise, we won't survive. I really do believe it's that important. If you were to instruct someone on how to give a public apology, what would you tell them to do? As not being an expert on this at all, from having worked on this episode. The first question I think people should ask is, should I apologize? Does this require a public apology? Because that's the first thing. Sometimes it doesn't. If you've heard someone personally, apologize to them, fix it with them. But if you're going to give a public apology, first ask if you should do it. Second, do it in the least narcissistic way possible. Do it in the most humble way possible. And make sure it's followed up with action and make sure you're not asking for anything in return. So if you really are sorry for doing something terrible and you're giving the public apology, give it in such a way to be like, I'm sorry I did this. I'll need anything. I'm stepping away. I'm not even going to continue. So I would actually say if you've done something horrible enough, stop your career for a while. Actually show that you're trying to do something about it or deal with it, or that you've changed, or that you're going to try to change. Because otherwise, the transactional nature of it, people will see right through it. So those are the two things I'd say. Make sure you need to give it at all or that it's a good idea. And number two, actually put your career on pause, or if you're a company, actually do something with your money to fix the problem that you created. So if you're going to poison a river, clean it up, help the people that you've poisoned in the neighboring communities actually be ready to lose something in the process. Be ready to atone in a real way. And I think that's what's key is that there has to be some action to follow it up. I think over time, Germany has taken more and more actions to try to actually show their sorry for what happened in the Holocaust. It's not going to ever be able to be reversed, but they acknowledge that this is a responsibility of the country that the nation of Germany under the rule of the Nazis did this and that there has to be some process to try to make it right. So action seems to be the last part of that is absolutely required. If you're doing a public apology of any kind. That was rahm team Arab Louis, the co host and co producer of NPR's through line, which y'all should definitely be listening to. And that is the show. I will be back in your feed on Saturday, so please subscribe. It is the best way to never miss an episode. For those of you all who love nadir Goff, I might be able to drop a teaser that she may or may not be on Saturday's episode. So definitely don't miss that. Please leave a rating and review an apple Spotify and tell your friends about us. You can follow us on Twitter, I see why minus score pod, which is the place that we were ever give a real apology, that's probably where it would be. And you can also always drop us noted I see why my plate dot com. I see why I'm I have produced by Sarah's bag weaver and me, Rachel Hampton. Daisy Rosario is a senior supervising producer and Alicia Montgomery is slave Pete of audio. See you online or on the notes app. Hey everybody, it's Tim heidecker. 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ICYMI
"nadir goff" Discussed on ICYMI
"Like a two second clip about this. Yes, I've had a little bit of various true crime tiktoks delivered to me and I've like started to step my toe into it and then been like no, no, no, no. I don't want to do it. You can't do that. You're gonna get sucked in. You can't do that. But the fact that it just comes to me delivered so easily on my for you page, like, oh my God. It's so easy. Yes, delivered is such a great verb for it, because I didn't ask for it. But I kind of want it now. Exactly. So you have tickets to the heirs tour, correct. You're one of the lucky ones. I sure do. I sure do, and I fought for them. I'm sure you did, honestly. The girlies were in the trenches with that. So I'm assuming you're super excited. But I have to ask if you're excited, has been at all tempered by the fact that I'm assuming your FYP is as full of, if not fuller of Taylor Swift footage is mine is. Just to give a sense of scale 80 million people watch the first two nights of Taylor's tour on TikTok, which is wild. Yeah, I was one of them. I mean, I will be clear. I didn't stream it because I don't want to spoil it that much, but yeah, I am really excited and also have complicated feelings about the fact that I know the choreography for vigilante shit and like I know what her different costumes look like and there's this one moment where she like does this optical illusion stage dive. That really blew people's minds the first night and like now I know that it's gonna happen and I feel kind of weird about it I had a dream last night that I went to the concert and that it felt like I was watching a TikTok and because I had seen everything on TikTok already, the concert ended and in my mind I was like, wait, I'm excited for the concert and then I had to remind myself that it was already over and that it wasn't even that great because I had seen everything already. It made me really sad. Yeah, of course a bit. I mean that makes a lot of sense. One of the things you mentioned that really kind of lodged its way into my brain is that the errors tour is so present online that Taylor has had to respond by changing things so that her fans are surprised, which she's always been a person who just loves engaging with her fandom. She loves to drop little hints and clues and treasure hunt that have only encouraged the politely I'll say detective skills of her audience. Others might say conspiracy. But it's wild to me to think of artists having to put on these massive three hour productions because that's how long an heir is to her concert is. And then also having to deal with changing it constantly so that their fans haven't seen all of it on TikTok by the time they actually see it in person. Yeah, like I think that she tried to preempt some of this with the secret songs that she's doing. There's like a part of the concert that's in acoustic set. And she said at the beginning that she was going to play different songs at every stop on the tour. As a way to mix it up, you know? And the fandom. Has created spreadsheets. They have created they have these whiteboards where they're crossing off songs as she plays them like in an attempt to predict what she's going to play at their night of the tour, which is wild to me because it's like, this is at least one part that is deliberately meant to be a surprise. And they're trying to remove that element of surprise, remove every element possible, which is really interesting to me. I don't feel like it's bad necessarily. I don't feel like it's good. I just, it's just an interesting way to engage with a live music experience. And then there's the added element of not just fans who are doing this who want to know what's going to happen. But content creators who are seeing this as an opportunity for exclusive content. I'm going to read a bit from a nylon piece written by Brooke lamenta titled why go to a show and you can see it on TikTok. Hoping to maximize her chances of capturing one of the first viral concert moments of Taylor Swift's upcoming eras tour 26 year old Los Angeles content creator Reagan Bailey decided to purchase tickets for the tour's opening night in Glendale, Arizona, as well as the shows in Los Angeles. I see it as a constant opportunity because obviously I'll be one of the first people to be able to post about it, which is huge Bailey says. But then second of all, her shows in my city are the last shows of the tour. So I didn't want to watch the whole thing play out on TikTok and feel like I had already gone. Like, of course we're here. We've kind of always been here in a way, but something about this feels different. Yeah, I feel weird about it. I am a person who believes that influencers are doing real and good sometimes good work. This is a job. I'm not somebody who thinks that content creators are not professional people. But there's also a part of me that's like, wow, what a cynical approach to something that in theory is a really joyful experience. And I don't think that this person is cynical necessarily, but I just, I think that the media environment that we all live in and that we have to exist in. Hyper capitalistic media environment means that now when we go somewhere exceptional or see something amazing, the first thing that we think is like can I make money off of this? And to a lesser extent, like, can I get views? Can I get clout? Because to a certain extent, like views and clout are money. It's another kind of capital. Yeah, and it's wild. I mean, it makes sense that Taylor Swift tickets, especially we're very difficult to get for the store. I saw the girlies crying on TikTok. I saw the girly of crying on TikTok. Yes. And I think that there's something to be sad about making the experience accessible to people who couldn't get tickets. But it also just. Yeah. It just makes me feel sad. Same, because there's a voice in my head that sounds a lot like another friend of the show nadir Goff, who wrote a great piece about how concert spoilers make the act of concert going more accessible. And largely I agree because it's true that especially for a concert like Taylor Swift, where getting tickets was basically like The Hunger Games, it seemed like. Yes. But most people won't be able to see it. So being able to see it in this way, being able to know the set list, being able to see all these threads that are dedicated to her outfit changes, getting to look at the spreadsheets of the surprise songs that are playing, seeing the swan dive moment off of the stage in 50 different forms that all feels great for people who don't get to see the concert in person. Or even don't get to see it until later. I mean, here's at the cotton candy unicorn over on TikTok talking about how much she
ICYMI
"nadir goff" Discussed on ICYMI
"Hampton. And I'm nadir Goff and you're listening to I am I in case you missed it, slate's podcast about Internet culture. And today I'm once again joined by the legend, the star, the icon, nadir. Nadir, hello. How are you? How are you, how are you doing? My most Billy friend. I am distraught. I am depressed. I am broken down, but you know what? I will bounce back. I will. I will bounce back stronger than I was before. I just, I feel like you deserve an award for going through what you've been through. Same. Someone give me something because the award that was supposed to have been won. That is so special. I'm sorry, I'm sorry to bring it up that you didn't bring home the trophy because we are of course talking about the Philadelphia Eagles lost to the Kansas City Chiefs and Sunday Night Super Bowl game. I'm surprised as you are, but we're talking about it because God knows I am not a football person, but it was on in my house. I watched it. I was there for it. I feel sympathy for you nadir. Thank you. I'm surprised you even watch. It was on in your house, you didn't go to someone else's house. I know, I know. Even more shocking. Oh, this is okay, baby steps. Baby steps. I mean, I mainly watch for one reason and one reason only, which is Rihanna's performance. Correct, which was something that happened that I saw. And before I say anymore, I have to know, what were your thoughts? What were your hopes? Were your expectations? Some of your dreams and era. Okay, so I actually wrote a whole piece about this for slate dot com because my expectations were maybe not high, but they were specific. So my expectations were that. I simply wanted Rihanna to revive her 2016 VMAs performance. Her medley, where she performed work, and a few other songs, and it, to me, is the single best televised live Rihanna performance. It's phenomenal. It has life giving energy, right? No matter if you're familiar with dancehall or not. But if you are familiar with dancehall and if you are Caribbean, like I am, it's also just a beautiful testament to your roots and to Rihanna's culture. And I really wanted her to revive that to showcase who she is, her culture, and to also, you know, just have a really black performance because dancehall music and reggae music is black music. And instead, what we got was decidedly not that. I was going to say, and what we got was not what you hoped for. No. So what we got, I don't even know how to describe what we got without getting into all of the sort of mess of a discourse that has surrounded what we got. But basically, Rihanna gave this performance that was a lot more subdued in energy than everyone expected it to be. Reason being, well, I can not attribute it entirely to this, but partially the reason why it was so subdued in energy is because Rihanna is, once again, pregnant. And that was made somewhat clear during the performance. But somewhat, I say, because everyone is confused and they didn't really want to say she was pregnant, even though she visibly looked very pregnant because they didn't want to do the thing. That's the equivalent of asking a woman if she's pregnant because we know you don't do that. Yes, so Twitter was just a whole bunch of like, wait, is she, are we? Is she, but so after the performance, her publicist basically came out and confirmed that she is indeed pregnant. And so that was a huge narrative of the performance that we got, but I don't know. There was a lot of really frustrating takes from people who were just dissatisfied with her overall and the main reason why it frustrated me is because Rihanna historically has never been someone who's cared about what other people think or what other people want out of her. And I think the moment that we expect celebrities to be judged solely by what we want from them is the moment that we really just failed. And so I don't understand why she constantly is being held to this specific pedestal. I mean, I guess maybe because she's been doing anything other than making music, right? But like whenever Beyoncé does whatever she wants. We're not like, oh, that was the worst thing we've ever seen, right? And so I just don't understand why we can't extend that same go off sis. I love that you give zero fucks to Rihanna as well. I think the reason that we're not giving her the same response would get Beyoncé when she has like a mid project like black is king. I know a lot of people like that album. I don't give a single fuck. But I think the reason we don't do as much is because black is king is sandwiched between lemonade and renaissance. You know, like when there's a dip, we know there's gonna be a peak. And with Rihanna, it's not even like there's necessarily been a dip. It's just been a plateau. We've had nothing. She has given us nothing besides lip gloss that sells out all the fucking time. Okay, but it sells out. You see what I'm saying? You have to subscribe to monthly to get the advertised price. So it's scamming all of us. Do I respect it? Yes. Do not say that she is scamming. Unless you're going to say that everyone else is going to have a lip gloss that often just make more. I haven't been able to buy hot chocolate in stores and months. Okay, as Rihanna would say, that seems like a you problem. Like I just noticed the problem might go to Sephora way too often for how much money I make. I'm just saying, don't call her a scammer, which she is, but don't call her that. If you're not going to call every other white male executive person and including Ariana Grande with that rare beauty in her perfume, a scammer can be a Selena Gomez to be clear, and that is true. I will call Ariana Grande a scammer too. It's equal opportunity here. I am not holding back my criticism. Right. So I think the thing about Rihanna is that she doesn't owe us anything, right? And so we can't we can't treat her differently because we feel like she's given up on this sort of social contract that was never actually explicitly stated in the first place. She never signed on to just give us bops for the rest of eternity. She signed on to maybe give us a few bops until she saw fit to stop. And she saw fit to stop. She does not owe us anything. She does not owe us anything. Humps ever, if she doesn't want to make music, don't be fucking playing with my emotions every two years saying you're back in the studio. You know, you know what the real answer is. I'm mad at too many people right now. I can not also be mad at Rihanna. That's I'm mad at the refs. I'm mad at the NFL. I can not also be mad at Rihanna. So I'm just really trying to save myself. I understand saving room in your heart, but I will say that Rihanna does seem to agree with you. In that I really feel like the epitome of the performance, like the general takeaway from that entire performance, was y'all asked, here it is. Now stop asking. That is what that entire, it was go girl, give us nothing. It was go girl, give us nothing, but it was also cute. Again, I understand where you're coming from. However, I just feel like I reserve the right to call it like it is. You know, the truth of
The Secret History of the Future
"nadir goff" Discussed on The Secret History of the Future
"Hampton. And I'm nadir Goff and you're listening to I am I in case you missed it, slate's podcast about Internet culture. And today I'm once again joined by the legend, the star, the icon, nadir. Nadir, hello. How are you? How are you, how are you doing? My most Billy friend. I am distraught. I am depressed. I am broken down, but you know what? I will bounce back. I will. I will bounce back stronger than I was before. I just, I feel like you deserve an award for going through what you've been through. Same. Someone give me something because the award that was supposed to have been won. That is so special. I'm sorry, I'm sorry to bring it up that you didn't bring home the trophy because we are of course talking about the Philadelphia Eagles lost to the Kansas City Chiefs and Sunday Night Super Bowl game. I'm surprised as you are, but we're talking about it because God knows I am not a football person, but it was on in my house. I watched it. I was there for it. I feel sympathy for you nadir. Thank you. I'm surprised you even watch. It was on in your house, you didn't go to someone else's house. I know, I know. Even more shocking. Oh, this is okay, baby steps. Baby steps. I mean, I mainly watch for one reason and one reason only, which is Rihanna's performance. Correct, which was something that happened that I saw. And before I say anymore, I have to know, what were your thoughts? What were your hopes? Were your expectations? Some of your dreams and era. Okay, so I actually wrote a whole piece about this for slate dot com because my expectations were maybe not high, but they were specific. So my expectations were that. I simply wanted Rihanna to revive her 2016 VMAs performance. Her medley, where she performed work, and a few other songs, and it, to me, is the single best televised live Rihanna performance. It's phenomenal. It has life giving energy, right? No matter if you're familiar with dancehall or not. But if you are familiar with dancehall and if you are Caribbean, like I am, it's also just a beautiful testament to your roots and to Rihanna's culture. And I really wanted her to revive that to showcase who she is, her culture, and to also, you know, just have a really black performance because dancehall music and reggae music is black music. And instead, what we got was decidedly not that. I was going to say, and what we got was not what you hoped for. No. So what we got, I don't even know how to describe what we got without getting into all of the sort of mess of a discourse that has surrounded what we got. But basically, Rihanna gave this performance that was a lot more subdued in energy than everyone expected it to be. Reason being, well, I can not attribute it entirely to this, but partially the reason why it was so subdued in energy is because Rihanna is, once again, pregnant. And that was made somewhat clear during the performance. But somewhat, I say, because everyone is confused and they didn't really want to say she was pregnant, even though she visibly looked very pregnant because they didn't want to do the thing. That's the equivalent of asking a woman if she's pregnant because we know you don't do that. Yes, so Twitter was just a whole bunch of like, wait, is she, are we? Is she, but so after the performance, her publicist basically came out and confirmed that she is indeed pregnant. And so that was a huge narrative of the performance that we got, but I don't know. There was a lot of really frustrating takes from people who were just dissatisfied with her overall and the main reason why it frustrated me is because Rihanna historically has never been someone who's cared about what other people think or what other people want out of her. And I think the moment that we expect celebrities to be judged solely by what we want from them is the moment that we really just failed. And so I don't understand why she constantly is being held to this specific pedestal. I mean, I guess maybe because she's been doing anything other than making music, right? But like whenever Beyoncé does whatever she wants. We're not like, oh, that was the worst thing we've ever seen, right? And so I just don't understand why we can't extend that same go off sis. I love that you give zero fucks to Rihanna as well. I think the reason that we're not giving her the same response would get Beyoncé when she has like a mid project like black is king. I know a lot of people like that album. I don't give a single fuck. But I think the reason we don't do as much is because black is king is sandwiched between lemonade and renaissance. You know, like when there's a dip, we know there's gonna be a peak. And with Rihanna, it's not even like there's necessarily been a dip. It's just been a plateau. We've had nothing. She has given us nothing besides lip gloss that sells out all the fucking time. Okay, but it sells out. You see what I'm saying? You have to subscribe to monthly to get the advertised price. So it's scamming all of us. Do I respect it? Yes. Do not say that she is scamming. Unless you're going to say that everyone else is going to have a lip gloss that often just make more. I haven't been able to buy hot chocolate in stores and months. Okay, as Rihanna would say, that seems like a you problem. Like I just noticed the problem might go to Sephora way too often for how much money I make. I'm just saying, don't call her a scammer, which she is, but don't call her that. If you're not going to call every other white male executive person and including Ariana Grande with that rare beauty in her perfume, a scammer can be a Selena Gomez to be clear, and that is true. I will call Ariana Grande a scammer too. It's equal opportunity here. I am not holding back my criticism. Right. So I think the thing about Rihanna is that she doesn't owe us anything, right? And so we can't we can't treat her differently because we feel like she's given up on this sort of social contract that was never actually explicitly stated in the first place. She never signed on to just give us bops for the rest of eternity. She signed on to maybe give us a few bops until she saw fit to stop. And she saw fit to stop. She does not owe us anything. She does not owe us anything. Humps ever, if she doesn't want to make music, don't be fucking playing with my emotions every two years saying you're back in the studio. You know, you know what the real answer is. I'm mad at too many people right now. I can not also be mad at Rihanna. That's I'm mad at the refs. I'm mad at the NFL. I can not also be mad at Rihanna. So I'm just really trying to save myself. I understand saving room in your heart, but I will say that Rihanna does seem to agree with you. In that I really feel like the epitome of the performance, like the general takeaway from that entire performance, was y'all asked, here it is. Now stop asking. That is what that entire, it was go girl, give us nothing. It was go girl, give us nothing, but it was also cute. Again, I understand where you're coming from. However, I just feel like I reserve the right to call it like it is. You know, the truth of