16 Burst results for "Mythologist"
On Being with Krista Tippett
"mythologist" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"We're using them for all these kind of complex abstract ideas and they're kind of just sitting there winking us the whole time. Yeah, reminding us who we are. And then you make me so aware that we call, we are still naming things out of this primal place in ourselves, right? The World Wide Web, or the cloud, the cloud. Yeah it sneaks up in all these funny ways, doesn't it? Because we have no way of describing things other than the way the world has taught us to, you know? The language is the theories of some of the older theories of the languages that I talk about. I'm not going to remember them all unless you have to work in front of you, which I don't. But these theories that were put together for the origin of language in the 19th century, which were kind of, what is it? Who are theory and Bow Wow theory and these different ideas that language evolved from the grunts that we made when we were exerting ourselves or the noises that animals made or the very serious proposition that's been put forward by a number of anthropologists that we first made noises in order to call dogs. But that was actually something that preexisted the form of language. But made us need to cool. So maybe the first, the first people we spoke to were actually non humans. That there's always been this, the language has always been a kind of calling out to the world, and the world is always kind of speaking back to us, as you say, through language, even when we're talking about the most the most high-tech things imaginable, like the web and the cloud, because those are the things we have to think with, those are the things that originally taught us to think at all. You know, coming back to being in Greece where you live now and where I was when I read this book, I had this sensation there that the mythology, it is practically like a natural element, right? It almost felt like it's in the air, or the ocean, and it's in the soil. And you tell this amazing story about, and of course, mythologies, somebody said, the other day, mythology is what is more than true, or I like the definition of a myth is not something that never happened. It's something that happens over and over and over again. But you had this amazing story about nymphs, the order of the naming of a chain of islands in mythology, so that as we've been talking about language carries truths that science catches up with and or we catch up with and it feels like there's a similar thing to say about mythology in this story. Yeah, absolutely. So that story is told partly in geology, which is that 14,000 years ago at the end of the last ice age. The saronic gulf, which is the kind of large body of water which connects Athens to the main Mediterranean. The Mediterranean was much lower and the islands that now poke out of that gulf, one of which I live on formed a kind of land bridge. Separating the sea into a series of lakes. And then over the subsequently a few thousand years, the levels of the Mediterranean rose, and that land bridge became a series of islands. But as has been pointed out by what some people call geo mythologists, which is just a wonderful term. Is that if you look at some of the sources in H mythology like HCR in his yoga, which kind of tells the long story of how old the gods came to be, you'll find that these islands are named after nymphs and the order in which they were sire at the order of their birth from in this case, someone who's known as king asopus, which is the name of the major river that used to flow out near Athens. The order of the birth of those nymphs corresponds to the order with which these islands would have emerged from the ocean. And so it seems like the myth retells a geological history that's 10,000 more years longer than when the myth was recorded by his. But why not? I mean, people were there. People witnessed this thing happened, or generations of people witnessed this happen. Someone was there at the moment. That bridge became an island, right? Someone some person might have seen there were fewer people around. But some person could have been present to watch the first trickle of water, creep across the kind of coal of a hill in order to form a new sea. And of course, they would have told stories about it. And of course those stories would come down to us one way or another in some strange echo. Tens of thousands of years later. And to me, there's nothing particularly extraordinary about that. And you don't even have to believe in a kind of line of direct descent if you believe in the kind of endlessly fractal holographic nature of the universe that we were discussing earlier, that, of course, these patterns will occur, as you say, the midst of the things that are true over and over again. And so you can find the echoes of them in all of these stories, but as more and more than pile up, the kind of the wonder and the certainty increase. Yeah. And it speaks to how intelligence is carried forward in time. In ways that we haven't necessarily or science doesn't necessarily know how to take seriously, but there it is. That's knowledge. That's been carried forth. And live tradition practice, I think, is really important. I was talking to a friend earlier today who's engaged in a big kind of archival project around the cycladic islands where he's going around collecting various and the monkeys working a big ceramics project meeting lots of kind of potters, people who've been making ceramics on the islands for generations. And telling their stories collecting their materials and trying to work out how to preserve this material, but it's the same old archival problem as ever. There's no magic way of transmuting this into another medium that will survive forever. It will end up getting retold and retold over and over again. And it will get changed in that process and someone else a hundred or 50 years time might look at the materials he's produced and kind of recreate that tradition, but in some kind of new form, and you just see this thing getting handed on and passed down and passed down over time. Because it can only exist as a main practice. There's no separating it off from the world, as we've described. I want to return as we kind of draw to a close to technology, you know, you mentioned before this way in which the Internet actually the creation of the Internet helped us grasp grasp what is happening in the natural world. You said it was a gift from the technological to the ecological. You've talked about how you write about how one of the greatest misunderstandings of the 20th century would persist into the present was that everything was ultimately a decision problem. And when computers came along, there was easy to fall into this idea that the universe is like a computer. The brain is like a computer that we in plants and animals and bugs are. Like computers. And you've also said that our contemporary networked computational technologies might yet be our fullest attempt. Since the development of language to draw ourselves closer to nature, however carelessly and unconsciously. So talk me talk me through that. Well, that's just because of my crazily optimistic belief that there are being constantly brought closer to the world. And in that, I think I'm talking about quite a few things in there, but in one case I'm particularly talking about AI. Which is this. I always know riding fascinating, but I hope it was quite a few of these technologies, which they go through this amazing process. I've done this before with things like self-driving cars or other new other new bits of tech, where there are things that suddenly in our lifetime are going from this is what life will be like in the year 3000 to like a boring everyday reality, like just like that. You know, just sort of suddenly and everyone's like, wow, wow, wow, that exists now. And this is happening with AI, but in this really boring rubbish way where it's just stealing everyone's heart and making bad cartoons. But it's here in some form.
On Being with Krista Tippett
"mythologist" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"Us to think at all. You know, coming back to being in Greece where you live now and where I was when I read this book, I had this sensation there that the mythology is practically like a natural element, right? It almost felt like it's in the air, or the ocean, and it's in the soil. And you tell this amazing story about, and of course, mythologies of somebody said the other day, mythology is what is more than true, or I like the definition of a myth is not something that never happened. It's something that happens over and over and over again. But you have this amazing story about nymphs, the order of the naming of a chain of islands in mythology, so that as we've been talking about language carries truths that science catches up with and or we catch up with and it feels like there's a similar thing to say about mythology in this story. Yeah, absolutely. So that story is told partly in geology, which is that 14,000 years ago at the end of the last ice age. The saronic gulf, which is the kind of large body of water which connects Athens to the main Mediterranean. The Mediterranean was much lower and the islands that now poke out of that gulf, one of which I live on formed a kind of land bridge separating the sea into a series of lakes. And then over the subsequently a few thousand years, the levels of the Mediterranean rose, and that land bridge became a series of islands, but as has been pointed out by what some people call geo mythologists, which is just a wonderful stone. Is that if you look at some of the sources in H mythology like HCR in his yoga, which kind of tells the long story of how old the gods came to be, you'll find that these islands are named after nymphs and the order in which they were sire at the order of their birth from, in this case, someone who's known as king asopus, which is the name of the major river that used to flow out near Athens. The order of the birth of those nymphs corresponds to the order with which these islands would have emerged from the ocean. And so it seems like the myth retells a geological history that's 10,000 more years longer than than when the myth was recorded, by hydro. But why not? I mean, people were there. People witnessed this thing happened, or generations of people witnessed this happen. Someone was there at the moment. That bridge became an island, right? Someone some person might have seen there were fewer people around. But some person could have been present to watch the first trickle of water, creep across the kind of coal of a hill in order to form a new sea. And of course, they would have told stories about it. Yeah. And it speaks to how intelligence is carried forward in time. In ways that we don't necessarily or science doesn't necessarily know how to take seriously. But there it is. That's knowledge. That's been carried forth. And lived tradition and practice. There's no magic way of transmuting this into another medium that will survive forever. It will end up getting retold and retold over and over again. And it will get changed in that process. And you just see this thing getting handed on and passed down and passed down over time. Because it can only exist as a living practice. There's no separating it off from the world, as we've described. I want to return to technology, you know, you mentioned before this way in which the Internet actually the creation of the Internet helped us grasp what is happening in the natural world. You said it was a gift from the technological to the ecological. You write about how one of the greatest misunderstandings of the 20th century would persist into the present was that everything was ultimately a decision problem. And when computers came along, there was easy to fall into this idea that the universe is like a computer. The brain is like a computer that we in plants and animals and bugs are. Like computers. And you've also said that our contemporary networked computational technologies might yet be our fullest attempt. Since the development of language to draw ourselves closer to nature, however carelessly and unconsciously. So talk me through that. Well, that's just because of my crazily optimistic belief that we are being constantly brought closer to the world. And in that, I think I'm talking about quite a few things in there, but in one case I'm particularly talking about AI. I think AI is no riding fascinating, but I hope it was quite a few of these technologies, which they go through this amazing process. I've done this before with things like self-driving cars or other new other new bits of tech, where there are things that suddenly in our lifetime are going from this is what the life will be like in the year 3000 to like a boring everyday reality, like just like that. You know, just sort of suddenly and everyone's like, wow, wow, wow, what that exists now. And this is happening with AI, but in this really boring rubbish way where it's just stealing everyone's art and making bad cartoons. But it's here in some form. But my constant hope is that it can't just be that. It's more interesting than that. It has so much cultural weight and it has so much pull on us. The fact that it does this huge disparity between our fascination with it, because you know, we have this deep, deep cultural human fascination with AI. And the incredible banality of its reality has put forward in tech companies. It's reality as opposed to the things that keep getting promised that it will do for us. Exactly. Well, not just promise, but the really imagine, you know? That we imagine something, unfortunately, mostly like ourselves, but that's again just the limits of our own imagination. But we're imagining something that will shake us to our core fundamental, right? Right. And we are capable of imagining something that powerful. But what we're essentially imagining is another intelligence. And that's to me what I think is fundamentally is that we're so bad at imagining non human intelligence, that we have to build this kind of vast mythology because that's kind of what it is of AI of our own creation of some kind of Frankenstein weird science fiction conglomeration of 20th century myths.
Bloomberg Radio New York
"mythologist" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Bloomberg markets to close. Tim Steve, along with Carol master and romaine bostick on this Thursday afternoon of this shortened trading week shares of Southwest Airlines, ticker LUV actually closing higher today for the first time this week. This after following a combined 11% over the last two days. This is a result of the crisis that the company continues to face, though things are improving. For the latest now, we bring in Madison mills. She's with us in the Bloomberg interactive broker studio. Is the worst behind us or worse behind it for Southwest Airlines? They certainly hope so southwest canceled over 2300 flights today, but so far, only 39 flights canceled for tomorrow and we did just hear from southwest CEO. If you look on your terminal there and for our listeners, I'll just tell you about it. The CEO saying it's too early to estimate the cost of network disruptions and commenting in a media briefing saying that Southwest is going to reassess tech modernization plans in the wake of this crisis, but that this re upgrading of their tech system is going to be a multiyear process. So short term things are looking okay adding into Friday with those lower flight cancellations. But again, we're hearing from the CEO that that tech modernization plan in the wake of this crisis is going to be ongoing that's going to take a lot of time and a lot of investment in the years to come. Well, and it's kind of interesting. I do wonder about this CEO kind of coming out and saying this tech modernization. It's not a new story, right? This is something that he's been working on with his team. Exactly. And even though he's only been in the top job for ten months, he's been at the company for a long time, but we are hearing also we have a great report from our colleagues who are doing their best work covering this. They talk to communications and crisis managers who say that this is going to blow over that in the first quarter of 2023, we're going to see some issues, but that bob Jordan is actually doing a good job apologizing. You guys have talked about this for the past couple of days when I brought this up. You know, people have a short memory when it comes to this type of stuff. And if they're loyal to an airline or they shop based on price or building price, they just got their fares for the next few months. I think they'll be okay. In all seriousness though, I mean, there's a sort of a process and one of the headlines that we heard out of Jordan's idea that this is going to be a multiyear process to upgrade these IT systems. Of course, a process that a lot of people think should have started several years ago here. Give us a sense as to what we know as to what they have to do and why I would take that long. I think the biggest thing is the ITP is they have a system that is really important because they operate off of this point to point systems. So these airplanes could be anywhere. That's why they called the Greyhound of the sky and if you're going to have planes all over the place. I think it's been a couple of decades since I've been on a Greyhound, but I'm not sure that's a compliment. I feel like it's a sign of how nim accessibility. The accessibility, right? Okay, so that allows them to keep their balance sheet really tight, but it also means that they've got to be on top of it. One interesting thing though, I mean, we talk about sort of what made southwest what it is. A somewhat quirky culture, the idea of not just low cost fares, but it made the whole process easier for a lot of folks at least relative to the other airlines. Does that get lost in this? It is a bit of a PR nightmare, obviously, for Southwest, and that's why there is going to be a lot of renewed pressure heading into the first quarter of 2023 to have really cheap airfares to rebuild some of that trust with customers. Yeah, I mean, we talked about this yesterday. This has been so much a part of what the culture is at Southwest. They do it differently. And as a result, you don't have to pay as much to fly with them. But this is one thing that if it happens once, but if it happens again, then it becomes much more problematic for the company. In terms of branding and loyalty by its customers. And it's probably a little bit of a shock to the system, especially for bob Jordan because they had such a great Thanksgiving. They were doing a lot better than other airlines. So he was feeling great, heading into Christmas, and then this winter storm just. Then this is no easy time. I mean, anyone who's had a chance, and I've been lucky enough to be in some of the control towers. And you see what it takes to kind of keep these planes moving, keep people moving. I want to go. So it is an extraordinary problem. And this is like, it's literally like, you know, mathematical jiu-jitsu that these people have to do to keep everything going. But what I think is interesting about this is we saw some struggles in the past with united and delta. This was years ago before they modernize their systems. Were they kind of went through something similar? And I don't know if there was a lasting effect on that. Actually, listen in terms of public perception. I mean, I know we all have our own favorite airlines, and we like to dig at this one versus that one. But overall, those companies are doing just fine. They are. And I mean, this week, if you look at this as an example today, or yesterday, rather on Wednesday, we saw less than 40 flight cancellations from Delta JetBlue united, delta one with only 15 cancellations and over 2500 cancellations from southwest. Those numbers are just such a stark difference between these airlines. Another thing that I should mention also, we talk about the tech side of Southwest needing to be upgraded, but one example, I heard from a gate agent who was talking about this on TikTok this week, she said that they were communicating lost baggage via pen and paper back in 2017 all the way until now. So that's just one example of the just right that an apple tag inside your luggage so you know where it is. So you know where it's stuck, Carol. So you know where it's stuck. You can always find it. Yeah, I do wonder what the longer term story is. I mean, as I said, I think if they mess up again, then it's a problem, but what about, what about regulators? Do regulators have? So with Apple tags, you have to be within a certain distance. No, you don't. You don't have to do this. You see it. It turns it into this was like a big Christmas present in 2021. I got to get you some airtags. The way that they work is they sort of use everybody with an iOS device as a Beacon. Unwittingly being used as a Beacon for my AirTag that's in my bag on my keys right now. Okay, so you would know that if your bag was still stuck in Texas. Yeah, based on people who are iPhones around. You would just know it's there. You can't actually do it. You can actually get anyone Romain on your phone. My family, yeah. Yeah, it's like the same thing. Find my Friends. What about a wonderful life? I'm your 12 hours a day. I know you're at 7 31 lives. In a car and I'm on the way home. What do you keep it on your radar when it comes to southwest at this point? You have a great life. To me, the big question is gonna be how they use that $2 billion investment. The cocktail thing today, weren't you? That's tomorrow mythologist or something. That's tomorrow right now. Oh, that's tomorrow. Yeah. We're doing marijuana. That's what help Romain now. We are. Yeah. Okay, but speaking of cocktails actually, they are offering a lot of drink vouchers. So
"mythologist" Discussed on 60 Minutes
"There would be none of this were it not for saint bernadette. According to Catholic lore, in 1858, a mysterious woman appeared in this grotto to bernadette Subaru, a 14 year old peasant girl, Jean Marc mica, the bishop of lords, says the woman spoke with Subaru several times over 5 months, and once the 20 5th of March, day of the annunciation, she said I am the immaculate conception. When word got out, the immaculate conception, the virgin Mary, had appeared in lords, people flocked to this grotto, and within days started making claims of miracle cures. The ability to walk restored sight, worried about fueling mass hysteria, the church set up the office of medical observations in 1883 to investigate the claims. Which brings us back to the other bernadette in our story. 14 years ago, sister morio found herself in a wheelchair in a procession at lords, seeking the intervention of saint bernadette. And I really had that feeling that the lord was walking with us, and they heard him giving me these words. I see your suffering and that of your sick brothers and sisters. Just give me everything. You heard the voice of Jesus. Yes, I heard this in a voice. I can't really tell you whose voice it was. It was like a spiritual experience. She said she returned home rejuvenated spiritually, but physically she felt worse. After three days in excruciating pain, she told us she suddenly found the strength to walk to the chapel and pray. Then I felt some kind of heat coming into my body. I felt relaxed. But I didn't really know what that was meaning. And in my room, I heard this in a voice again telling me, take all your braces off. I didn't think twice. And I started taking my foot brace off, and my foot that used to be crooked was straight. And I could actually put it on the ground without feeling any pain. All of a sudden your foot was straight. Yes, like that. Like the way it is just now. And so I kept going. She says she took off the braces and stopped the morphine all at once. Did this make sense to you? Ben knows her stuff. No, I knew it was impossible. She came to my door with her doctor and she said, last year I came to lose on pilgrimage and three days after I got back home, I was cured. Doctor Alessandro di Chi Chi's. Here's stories like that all the time. As the president and residing physician at the lord's office of medical observations, the former pediatrician's job is to determine whether there is more to those stories by applying 7 strict criteria established by the church. And we are looking for a diagnosis. And if that diagnosis is a diagnosis of a severe disease with a severe prognosis, and then we want to make sure that that person is a person that was cured in a way that one would say suddenly in an instantaneous way in a complete way in a way lasting in time. In my 7th criteria that has to match is there must be no possible explanation. To that cure. Here on the edge. He showed us the archives which hold thousands of recorded claims of cures. This feels like it's almost ten pounds. Doctor D Francis, a practicing Catholic, told us what separates the more than 7000 claims of cures from the 70 the church calls miracles, is an ungodly amount of medical documentation, and patients like sister Morello willing to put their lives under a microscope. We center to do different neurologists. We sent her to different real mythologists because of the different specific case for disease. We asked to repeat twice all sorts of imagery. Electrophysiology. We did all that we would do in medicine to be absolutely sure of her diagnosis and it was. But he wanted to confirm something else. I was asked to meet with tube psychiatrists in Paris. They wanted to know if I was lying. If I had already had any hallucinations. If I had levitated I remember answering no doctor, I never left the ground floor. Satisfied, doctor D frenchies sent sister Murillo's case to a group of 33 doctors and professors called the international medical committee of lords. Its job is to determine whether a cure is what they consider medically unexplained. We're not trying to reel something in orbit or something right. We're just trying to be objective. You could call them the devil's advocates. Doctor Michael Moran, a surgical oncologist, doctor yasak moss, a Professor of urology at Johns Hopkins, and doctor Kieran Moriarty, a renowned addiction specialist, scrutinized sister moreot case. And is there any anything that could have caused her response? No treatment would be that effective that quickly does religion enter into your medical conversation? We can not separate ourselves as people who have been deeply immersed in the culture and the traditions of lords and the church. But make no mistake, we're just as technical as a forensic pathologist when it comes to looking at the technical details of the case. After 8 years of investigation, the committee determined that sister Monroe's case was medically unexplained. So when you do a survey, the investigation of sister bernadette or any of the other cures, this is done on a purely medical basis, something that could be peer reviewed by other physicians outside could. That is. They are an estimated with absolute certainty that the case of sister Benedict had been reviewed red expertise by at least 300 physicians. 300 physicians. And here, if tomorrow morning, any of our viewers is a doctor and one day he stops in southern France and comes to see me and wants to look into the file of sister benedetta be delighted to show him because we have everything is open and collegial and no secrets. The secret is the mystery of it all, and on that the church gets the last word. An in 2018, a decade after her cure, sister moria's case was declared the 70th miracle of lords. Declaring miracle is saying God did something. This is the miracle. And the doctors can not go on that land. On that field. When I told people I was coming here, I got a lot of people who told me, oh, come on, there's got to be some explanation that we just don't know. What do you say to the skeptics? Come and see, be open, don't be narrow minded. Be open to believe that the real world is wider than the visible one.
Hay House Meditations
"mythologist" Discussed on Hay House Meditations
"Are. Your purpose lives with you. It lives in you and all around you. It is always with you. Another common question I get asked is, how do I know when I am on purpose? Well, one sure sign is by how alive you feel. In my book higher purpose, I quote Joseph Campbell, the philosopher and mythologist, who taught us about the hero journey. He said, people say that what we're all seeking is a meaning of life. I don't think that's what we're really seeking. I think that what we're seeking is an experience of being alive. So that our life experiences on the purely physical plane will have resonances within our innermost being and reality. So that we actually feel the rapture of being alive. Now when your own purpose following your joy, doing what you love, you will find that you are often full of energy. Something lights you up from the inside. Your energized, you're empowered and you have a superhuman strength. Now when you're not on purpose and you have strayed or got distracted somehow. You will find that you're often lacking in energy. You will experience yourself as being drained. Short of breath, lacking in inspiration and unable to go the distance. Let's take a moment now. To tune in to this sense of a liveness that Joseph Campbell talks about this rapture of feeling alive. First, I'd like you to tune in to the sense of a liveness that
The Eric Metaxas Show
"mythologist" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"You're listening to a special version of the arithmetics show I am doing a Socrates in the city event in Oxford, England. Let's continue my conversation with professor Walter hooper. You must have known J.R.R. Tolkien. Yes. Can you tell us a little bit about him? He died in 73. You came here in 63 and then in 64 for good. Any memories of him and his estimation of Lewis, did it change at all in his last years? I don't think so. I think Humphrey Carpenter is wrong and what's on a wrong to talk about them becoming cold towards one another. I saw nothing of this at all. I mean, when I first met him, he invited me to see him. And he was living at that time here in Oxford still in Oxford. And he was using his garage as a study, and when he went in, he said, you got 30 minutes. And he put one of the big alarm clocks in front of me. You could see here, you could hear it in the next room. And so you got 30 minutes. And so he did most of the talking himself. And at one point, he was talking still, he left. He said, where you are. And perhaps I stay well, and he came in through another door. So this is something what he said. But I was so worried about the clock. And so finally, he was in the middle of telling me something about Lewis. When I said, it's half an hour. He said, sit still, I am the lord of the clock. I'll tell you when you can go. Then when he led me to the door, he could not have been more tender, he held my arm and he said, I'm so sorry. You've lost your great friend. And I said, but you've lost one who you knew much longer. It's a no, what makes your case much sadder than mine is you would just beginning to love it. So he said, I had had many years, but you ought to be pitted. And I found that after that, he could not have been nice and talking about Lewis. He one time, when I was editing, I showed him some of the letters I was editing from Lewis to greaves. 1929, they were, he said, he agrees that he and talking stayed up to very, very late, as he was reading some of the middle earth documents. So I assume this was The Lord of the Rings. So I'll ask professor Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings that you might be oh no, no, he said, I had no story had been written. I wasn't really interested in writing stories. I was interested in creating a world, and so it was a language and a genealogist and the land that I was interested not stories, but you know what our boy, Jack Lewis was. He had to have a story, and that story, The Lord of the Rings, was written to keep him quiet. Wow. I think he meant it, too. Because our letters appears which by the side. But the very idea that the genesis of this juggernaut, called The Lord of the Rings. Would have begun. In that way, it's extraordinary. And what a strange thing that someone like Tolkien could be made in such a way that he would desire to create a world. Yeah. What a strange thing most of us aren't that way. But that led to all these other things and to a $1 billion industry. Fascinating. But I gave him his turning point about him. In 1971, I had finished God of the dark, and I gave him a copy of that. And that's the collection. That's the collection of essays. A collection. Got in the Doc collection of essays. Lewis effectively defending the Christian. The best right. Anyway, Tolkien said, you know, Jack Lewis is the only friend I've ever had who's written more since he died than before. And I said, I know exactly what you mean and exactly the same. What happened to you? He said, no it won't. No, it won't, because I don't have that much material and Christopher won't know what to do. Wow, was he wrong? He was stupendously wrong about that. Had the silmarillion been published before he really wore it a lot about that. I heard him. I've got to get finished. He really worried about that. But I think he simply was just too old to get up the manuscripts and try to do it. But he loved Lewis very much. And I think he would have been appalled by what others said about this getting cold. In fact, his son for the John Tolkien told me that he took his father up back to Lewis to see Louis right before those times. A number of number of business he paid off back to the kills to see him. And I said to John talking, do you know what they talked about? He said, I remember they talked about matters mortar and while the trees ever die. Smell the reason for Darth. That seems just what you'd imagine that we were talking about and whether trees ever died. Not in their books, they don't. Remind those of us who don't know who Arthur greeves was because you've mentioned him a number of times. This is Lewis boyhood friend. They met when they were just teenagers. They lived across the road from one another. They built up not only friendship, but a correspondence, which is one of the longest of all Lewis correspondents. It was a great pleasure at that time to have somebody who is absolutely on your wavelength that you can correspond with. Did he become Arthur greaves a Christian? Hey, what's the Christian already? Well, this brings me to when you mentioned when we mentioned Tolkien, it's not been told often enough. But what happened, Lewis had become somehow a reluctant believer in God. But not a believer in Jesus. Not a Christian by any means. But a believer in some kind of God. And it was Tolkien specifically who on Addison's walk behind maudlin college right here who really led Lewis. Can you tell us a bit about that? Yes, you said Louis had become a theist, but then something like a year or more later. One of the things that was holding him back for many years was something that happened when he was really about ten years old. When he was reading the classics for the first time, he noticed that the editors of the classics like and the name assume that they have that beliefs of these ancient Greeks were wrong, but that Christianity was right. Well, Lewis himself love the O miss more than he, like Christianity. And so he concluded Christianity is just happens to be the mythology that we've been brought up in. But other mythologists are in one way more interesting, like the Norse mythology he thought more interesting than Christianity. So it was still in the belief that it was a mythology that that he believed that night that Tolkien and Hugo Dyson came to dine. Or what they mean is showed him was, yes, it is a mythology like the others, but the others incomplete. They never lead anywhere. But the thing that makes this less beautiful than the other north mythology Greek mythology general that is it's true. This is a case of myth becoming fact. And his son is sober. It was a myth come true. And because it is truth, it come up shine in the way most mythology girls fall for great mythology with gods and giants and all of this wonderful things. And but then it's true. And so it offers hope for the world, this is a special Oxford edition of the Eric metaxas show..
Strange and Unexplained with Daisy Eagan
"mythologist" Discussed on Strange and Unexplained with Daisy Eagan
"His part, stukley was the one who figured out the stones alignment with the summer and winter solstices, and was such a champion of the theory that ancient druids built Stonehenge that he himself became a druid. The reclamation of Stonehenge for the druids resulted in a rise and visits to the area from self identified druids, pagans, and people in the so called British new age travelers movement. Ironically, it was a convoy of such people in 1985 that led to the only incident of serious violence committed at Stonehenge, at least in modern times. In 1984, the people's free festival at Stonehenge had attracted a crowd of a 100,000 peace loving individuals who just wanted to celebrate, but did so at the major annoyance of aerial locals who petitioned the police to outlaw the festival. Despite the restrictions put in place for the festival the following year, some 600 people showed up in a convoy, some in their trailer homes to celebrate peace love and understanding and were welcomed by the police in one of the worst displays of police brutality that country had ever seen. According to one witness that was glass breaking, people screaming, black smoke towering out of burning caravans, and everywhere there seemed to be people being bashed and flattened and pulled by the hair. Men, women and children were led away, shivering, swearing, crying, bleeding, leaving their homes in pieces. But again, in the end, it turns out radiocarbon dating done in the mid 20th century debunked the ancient druid theory by showing that the stones predated the Celtic druids by more than a thousand years. So if it wasn't Merlin, the Romans or ancient druids, who the heck built Stonehenge, why it was the aliens of course, I mean, you knew we'd be getting to aliens eventually, right? According to the history channel website, proponents of the ancient alien or ancient astronaut theory believed that the constructions of the monuments such as Stonehenge and the Egyptian pyramids and the Easter Island heads could only have been done by an advanced alien race who came here to teach us lowly humans how to build cool shit and then apparently peaced out for good. If that is the case, can I just make a quick plea to these aliens to please come back? We need your help. The pyramids and shit are super cool, but we have some major problems that we need some serious help with. On the other hand, I don't blame you for not wanting to hang out here. It is a hellscape. Ancient alien theory forefather author Erich von daniken suggested that Stonehenge was a model of our solar system, somehow. And others believe it may have been an ancient landing pad for interstellar activity here on earth. On an episode of the show ancient aliens an author investigative mythologist and TV presenter by the name of William Henry refers to Stonehenge as a portal, saying, quote, the Stonehenge builder's vanished. They were replaced, and they never came back. They are no longer on the planet. Where's the proof you ask? Good question stranger, because we don't know. Okay, so it's probably not aliens, right? But even if we could find out definitively who built Stonehenge, the question would still remain uh, how the massive rocks as I mentioned earlier came from as far as a 140 miles away. How did primitive people without the use of wheels, remember, managed to transport these boulders that weighed upward of 25 tons, which in American is a whopping 50,000 pounds, a 140 miles. Some geologists believe a massive glacier plowed its way through the area long before construction began depositing the rocks along the way. In 1971, geologist Geoffrey Calloway was basically like, look, there's no way humans move these rocks and it had to have been a giant ice sheet. Callaway pointed to other places in England that had clearly received glacial deposits during long ago ice ages. One of his biggest pieces of evidence were the blue stones found in early neolithic monuments, nowhere near the quarries they originated in that predate Stonehenge by as much as a thousand years. Although I suppose there's nothing saying the people a thousand years before Stonehenge didn't use the same method the people of Stonehenge did to transport giant rocks hundreds of miles. We just still don't know what that method could possibly have been. Computer models have helped back up Callaway's theory showing theoretically how these giant stones could have been
The Eric Metaxas Show
"mythologist" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Lewis effectively defending the Christian faith. That's right. Anyway, Tolkien said, do you know Jack Lewis is the only friend I've ever had who's written more since he died than before. And I said, I know exactly what you mean. And exactly the same, what happened to you? He said, no it won't. No, it won't, because I don't have that much material and Christopher won't know what to do. Wow, was he wrong? He was stupendously wrong about that. Had the silmarillion been published before his death. He really wore it a lot about that and I heard him. I've got to get finished. He really worried about that. But I think he simply was just to owe to get up the manuscripts and try to do it. But he loved Lewis very much. And I think he would have been appalled by what others said about this getting cold. In fact, his son from the John Tolkien told me that he took his father up back to Louis to St. Louis right before Louis time, a number number of businesses he paid up after the kills to see him. And I said, to John talking, do you know what they talked about? He said, I remember they talked about malaria and whether trees ever die. Mallory's more Darth than that seems just what you'd imagine they were talking about on whether trees ever died. Not in their books, they don't. Remind those of us who don't know who Arthur greeves was because you've mentioned him a number of times. This is Lewis boyhood friend, they met when they were just teenagers. They lived across the road from one another. They built up not only friendship, but a correspondence, which is one of the longest of all Lewis correspondents. It was a great pleasure at that time to have somebody who is absolutely on your wavelength that you can correspond with. Did he become Arthur greaves a Christian? He wants to Christian already. He was. Well, this brings me to when you mention when we mentioned Tolkien, it's not been told often enough. But what happened, Lewis had become somehow a reluctant believer in God, but not a believer in Jesus. Not a Christian by any means. But a believer in some kind of God. And it was Tolkien specifically who on Addison's walk behind maudlin college right here who really led Lewis. Can you tell us a bit about that? Yes, you see, Lewis had become a fierce, but then something like a year or more later. One of the things that was holding him back from many years was something that happened when he was really about ten years old. When he was reading the classics for the first time, he noticed that the editors of the classics like and then assume that they assume that beliefs of these ancient Greeks were wrong, but that Christianity was right. Well, Lewis himself love the old miss Moore than he, like Christianity. And so he concluded Christianity is just happens to be the mythology that we've been brought up in. But other mythologists are in one way more interesting, like the Norse mythology he thought more interesting than Christianity. So it was still in the belief that it was a mythology that that he believed that night that Tolkien and Hugo Dyson came to. Or what they mean to show him was, yes, it is a mythology like the others, but the others incomplete. They never lead anywhere. But the thing that makes this less beautiful than the other north mythology Greek mythology and all that is it's true. This is a case of myth becoming fact. And his son is sober. It was a myth come true. And because it is truth, it come up shine the way most mythology does or great mythology with gods and giants that all of this wonderful things. And but then it's true. And so it offers hope for the world, this is a special Oxford edition of the Eric metaxas show. There is more of this conversation with professor Walter hooper coming up next. Take care of this take care of him together together. Together with the overturn of roe V wade lots of companies are coming out saying they'll pay for employee abortion travel and expenses. Most of you have heard about some of these companies you've decided to stop shopping or doing business there, but did you know that you most likely own stock in those companies through your four-o-one-ks, IRAs, and other investment accounts..
Men In Blazers
"mythologist" Discussed on Men In Blazers
"And bowling the Chelsea owner has said he favors a north south All-Star Game. In English football like they have in the NBA. Just given the. That's a way long. Oh, great. When he finds a date for that, you can call me. And he forgets that in the big sports in America, these players have four month breaks. So they're quite happy that they can do a little bit of sport in these breaks. It's completely different in football. Does he want to bring Harlem globetrotters as well? And let them play against the football team. It's a free I'm surprised by the question, so please don't judge my answers to it too much, but maybe you can explain it to me at one point and find it a proper date. And then, yeah. Not sure what people want to see that, but imagine that united players Liverpool players Everton players altogether in one team. It's not the national team. It's just a northwest and northwestern northeast together. It's a new castle. Interesting game. And on the long run guys together, arsenal Tottenham, great. Did you really say it? Interesting. You know, the thing I love the most about Klopp's speech was that Jurgen admitted that an Everton player could make the all star team and for a moment. I forgot about how much I hated the idea and my little chest, popped out in pride. Oh, Nathan Patterson all star has such a nice ring about it. Next question. Hey Raj, this is Bethany calling from Charlotte, North Carolina, by way of Columbus, Ohio, spiritual home of dosa sero. I'm a proud supporter of the U.S. men's national team, U.S. women's national team and the red side of the Liverpool. So don't hold it against me. I'd love for you to settle a debate in our House. My husband and I have been going back and forth about what would you call the act of continuously watching replays of stellar performances and many of the Champions League, English Premier League. And other sporting events that we've watched over the last couple of weeks. We were thinking something in line with the league's use of roster baiting. Can we hear your thoughts? Love the pod, love all the content. Love you as April. Courage. Great pass performances. Bethany, as an Everton fan, don't do it because Dante, I think, was the genuine quote about how there's no greater sorrow than to be mindful of the happy time in misery, which is a life truth. My God, but I say that in the week in which you've all just watched erling Alan score that goal, the one meeting the incredible Coachella cross with the outside of his fort with a touch with the outside of his foot, the married ballet and taekwondo in equal measure, a goal that was so slash that the Ibrahim pet went out of his way to make sure the world knew that it actually reminded him of Johan Cruyff. The question is, how do you stop a man who barely touches a ball? I think he scored one goal for every 12 touches he's had of it, but when he does, he's guaranteed to blow up the game like a grenade with its pin out. We will find out tomorrow morning, 7 30 am Eastern Time, as wolves, face Manchester City, again, possibly of two strikers. Yes, Diego Costa's return to the Premier League is imminent. It's almost 34. There are ten which was announced in a spectacular video. Go and look at it online, which for the first ten seconds made it seem as if wolves had signed Hannibal lecter, but then proceeded to reveal that it was Diego Costa actually someone much, much scarier than aforementioned Hannibal lecter. DA go is going to need a few weeks to gain match fitness dude's not played in 8 months. But it would be no surprise if Bruno larger flung him onto the failed for his team that had been all too blunt. Manchester City talking about flinging. They will chuck a land at that old go back line, like a dead horse carcass, flung from a trebuchet during a siege, but almost be more surprising if erling doesn't score than if he does gent. With gloating postgame, but there's achievement against Dortmund. Early 1990, the space there, obviously, they clearly know how to stop you if when they can. I mean, they defended very well. They didn't stop me. But Norwegian wood. Roger, I am squeezing every last drop of sunshine out of these final days of summer, golf, tennis, outdoor workouts. Indoor not workouts with a book and some room the whatever you're doing to enjoy these final days of summer digital piece all birds tree runner is the perfect sneaker lightweight breathable and silky soft rod these have been my go to shoe this summer and work for essentially all Devo related activities. I was initially drawn to this beauty is because I'm both an amateur or mythologist and a believer in the sneaker nominative determinism. But I'm all in now because as you mentioned Dave, these are lightweight and believable and I hate sweaty feet can't have it won't have it and all bird
The Book Review
"mythologist" Discussed on The Book Review
"I mean, it's probably reverse engineered by Homer and later poets, obviously. But nonetheless, it has a shape, a beginning and an end, which other mythic structures don't seem to have. And they're so deep in the headset to use such a cliche, but I can't avoid it. The DNA of our own culture and art that it's kind of part of who we are. So they encourage me, really, and a lot of people said, you've got to retell those stories and at first I thought I'd do it as a stage show and then I started writing it and realized what pleasure it was to research and go back to some of the sources that I remember and find out and fill in the gaps that in my own knowledge that I studied writing. Did that mobile library play a part in your early reading of the Greek myths as well? Yes, it did. And funnily enough, it was American mythologists who were the biggest influence on me when I was young. Apart from Robert graves, who was hugely influential who wrote a magnificent two volume edition of the Greek myths. But when I was younger and two young for Robert graves, it was Edith Hamilton and bernadette slynn and a bullfinch. We had a copy of bullfinch, which is American, I think, isn't it? The bullfinch mythology. And Nathaniel Hawthorne, whom I remember well, reading those when I was very young. I had big illustrated version of Nathaniel Hawthorne's tanglewood tales. And these were all wonderful retellings for children, and there was a pretty sort of roger Lance little green whom I also read was a boy. And at school, because I loved classics at school from a very early age. We were taught that in from the age of 7 at my school and I did so well at it, only because I think I did so badly at everything else that I was put on to ancient Greek quite young too. I was 8 or 9 when I started learning ancient Greek, which I loved. And so those stories, of course, are the things you use for translations and so I grew up with a lot of them. You know, it's interesting that you mentioned Edith Hamilton because I brought home I was sent to your new book heroes and my 15 year old daughter was already a super fan of mythos, the first book, which came out a couple of years ago, and I asked her, well, what is it that you like that Stephen Fry does in these books? Because she's one of those kids that has read the Greek myths in many incarnations. And she said, well, it's very different from Edith Hamilton. And one of the differences and the things that I like best and this surprised me, she said, the footnotes, she said, normally, you don't want to read footnotes, but here you actually do. And it's funny because you had written, I think, in the introduction to heroes that plenty of readers enjoyed the first time around that you thought that they might be annoying. I just talk about the footnotes and your decision around that. There's such an interesting instrument footnotes. There are a way of having an intimate conversation with the reader, which is of a different order to the kind you have in the main body of the pros or the text. And I don't know why that is. I use them because one of the things I find so deeply fascinating about Greek myth is that you can start to tell the story and something in it just wakes you up to language, for example. So very early on, one of the great stories of the birth of Zeus is how Cronos, who is married to Rhea, his sister, he's a Titan, and he is defeated Uranus father. He's gelded him, but in gelding his father Uranus, he is cursed by his father, who grabbing his maimed genital says me. You be brought down by your children's just as I have been brought down by you. And so he's terrified of having children. But he makes love to his wife, ria, and each time she gives birth first to a girl hestia. He eats the child and then to a boy, Hades, he eats that baby, then to another girl to meet her eats that than to another boy Poseidon eats that. And then here are eats her. And then she's pregnant at the 6th time by this time she hates kronos and she devises this plan. She goes to a near mount oath where the Titans it's there Olympus as it were. It's a kingdom or a province of Greece called magnesia near near thessaly as we would say now. And she finds this stone and the stones in magnesia were quite special, the Greeks noticed that iron would be attracted to them. And so they gave this property of the stones from magnesia, the name of magnesia, which is magnetite stone of magnesia, from which we get our word magnet, of course. And not only that, but we get magnesium. The element and even manganese, the element through a spelling mistake. So all these kinds of things about that, interesting little sidelines, but you wouldn't want to disturb the story of her getting this stone because she uses the stone in a wonderful deceptive way. She drapes it in linen and puts it under her thighs and then makes the screams of childbirth and Cronos comes along. And she says, no, no, don't take this one, and he grabs the swaddled child as he thinks and swallows it down. And off he goes and then she goes to Crete still pregnant of course and gives birth to Zeus, who then gets his revenge on. His father, and so the Olympian order is born. And it's a wonderful story. But you want to stop off at things like magnesium, just because it's so interesting and how much of our language and science derives from Greek words and Greek places that we're not always familiar with. And I think a lot of people, especially curious children, find a thrill in linking words to stories and ideas that discovering the words aren't always just quite such arbitrary science. In the main text, you're addressing the reader directly very frequently, but it feels as if in the footnotes you're then kind of pulling them aside in a more intimate way. How do you deal with that when you're doing the audiobook? Good question. That's very good point. You have to chat with the producer and you say now I think this one we just won't bother with because it really does get in the way. Or this one we can do at the end of the story or maybe the end of that chapter or it may just be a natural paragraph rather than where I've embedded the footnote in the text in the book for the audio one will probably find another place for it. But one has to be constantly thinking of those things. I want to pause for just a moment and play for our listeners a sample from the audiobook. Mom, watch, Medusa. Perseus have you been drinking? Maybe. Just a couple two? A hiccup or two by the sound of it? No, but seriously, what's a Medusa? Why do you want to know? I heard the name and wondered, that's all. Well, if you stop pacing around like a caged lion and sit down, I'll tell you, said danae. Medusa, so they say, was a beautiful young woman who was taken and
"mythologist" Discussed on Fresh Air
"When I heard about the circumstances surrounding Netflix's Norm Macdonald, nothing special. I immediately thought about unforgettable TV appearances I had seen by people who were aware that their deaths might be imminent. Mythologist Joseph Campbell, talking to Bill Moyers, once advised people to follow their bliss. British TV writer Dennis Potter told people to see the present tense. And singer songwriter Warren Zevon, appearing on David Letterman's talk show shortly before his death, encouraged people to enjoy every sandwich. So I wondered, what sort of advice and wisdom would Norm Macdonald bring to what might be and, in fact, was his final comedy routine. As it turns out, not much. But that's by no means a complaint. We get one last dose of norm. And he does touch on a variety of topics from politics and living wills to masturbation and doctors. Yet he never addresses his condition or situation directly. The special was shot with McDonald's seated at the kitchen counter in the apartment of his neighbor and longtime production partner, Lori Jo hoekstra. Two cameras were used, both capturing the comedian in close up, one hit on, one from the side. And without notes or an audience, he just talks. Delivering the in progress version of the next Netflix stand up special, he was working on. The on screen introduction to the special explains that Norm Macdonald had the idea to record it because he quote didn't want to leave anything on the table in case things went south. So he just talks and talks. And occasionally, even when talking about doctors, he strikes a vein of comedy gold. I'm a doctor. I am be hitting your knee with a hammer now. That's an oddest one to me of all the time. We haven't got past that. That's like a cartoon from the 1950s. Guy pulls out a hammer, hits your knee with it and then you go, ah, my knee. Oh my God, that hurts. And then the guy writes that excellent..
"mythologist" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"And they think the scallops. And I asked them, how do you know it's Carlos? Oh, it's all over the place. Over the all over the place, Carlos is very rare to happen. It is all over the place. I mean, it's something else can be so rare as it can be other line conditions for medical. And if you go and get a wet pedicure and they start rubbing at it and inflaming it with a pumice stone, you're all right. Oh, like a urea cream or something? Yes, you should not apply your rear cream and any other without knowing that this Carlos on it. Because you really can make it worse. And how would you know if you didn't go? This is like, yeah, I don't know. I assume nail technicians knew this stuff, but clearly they're not trained like you are. I think, yeah, I think they should need a little bit more training on detecting conditions will be nice you know if they can get course or something with their mythologist and internship just to go over skin conditions on their feet. If you didn't want to work with that person. Yeah. And now I know what the medical pedicure. There's no nail polish involves because your goal is to get healthy feet, right? Yeah. And I'm thinking about a lot of people out there who can not believe they would ever have the kind of feat that they didn't have to put nail polish on. They have yellowing. They have white stripes. They have everything like that. Do you can you get anybody's feet to look good bear with no nail polish? A 100%. 100%. A 100%. This is the many people that take someone comes in with really gnarly looking toenails like, is this how long does that process take to get to? 9 months. It depends what is the yellow come from. They in yellow commuter nail polish can be from a condition can be from a medicine. We've got to find out why it's yellow wise, dark, or what is going on within it. But if it's a new phone call, an SCD, I would say up to one year. If you take their shows, they don't recognize the shower, and they clean the area of a year. They can get back to the next. Can I ask you about nail fungus real quick? I don't want to get too worried, sorry. But if you have a thickened yellow nail and you've been told you have nail fungus, I've often heard that that's like impossible to cure on your own. Like you might need to take medicines that can mess with your liver, all these different things. How do you deal with it at medi petty? First one, I cleaned the shoes. Then your phone goes live in the shoes more than they feed. You can clean their feet and treat their feet, but if you don't clean your shoes, you put them back where the phone has been living all this time. So so obvious, but I never thought of that. It's not a cure for phone calls without cleaning issues. You can cure your phones if you clean your shoes and you treat your nails. Only one doesn't work. So that's mainly the problem in America. The people say I can knock you on my phone because completely the oil will come back because you put back the shoes that you used to wear with your phone. Even if you had a sock on? Sex are not. Socks are not a condom. Is that what you just said? The phone goes back through also. Think.
Newsradio 600 KOGO
"mythologist" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO
"Helps them select from those drugs So today they're using trial and error And we hope that very soon they start using really precision immunology testing like prism RA to get the best possible treatment to their patients at the earliest possible time Explain for our listeners who are unfamiliar with the impact and the disease itself rheumatoid arthritis how debilitating it can become Of course there's about 1.6 million people in the U.S. today who suffer from rheumatoid arthritis This is a complicated disease It really is the body's own defense system attacking specific parts of itself And what is required really is a way to quiet that and the complicating factor is without suppressing the immune system because the body still needs that for that defense Patients today will suffer from rheumatoid arthritis if it's left untreated or not treated well ultimately wind up stopping work within ten years of the diagnosis because not only do they feel the pain that's swelling in the tenderness but they'll start to suffer from deformity lack of mobility and all kinds of other physical limitations when the disease takes its course It seems as a race of years we've heard a lot more about autoimmune disorders and diseases It's a combination clip I like to think of it as we're doing a phenomenal job of preventing treating and curing other diseases Those that are less complicated You look at our ability of course to build out studies and to have an vaccine for a viral illness that quickly as we have during the COVID pandemic period we can't do that for these more complicated diseases What we actually need to do is to work to really understand the individual reason not the diagnostic reason but the specific reasons leading to that individual disease course and then find the right solution to stop it at the individual level So explain again how this blood test works And at what point during the stage of either I think I have RA do I have RA somebody physician says I might at what point is this blood test used Explain how that works Of course I think that there's a need for a diagnosis first So at the first step is someone starts to feel the initial pain the swelling and the tenderness that potentially could come from RA they would basically ultimately move from a primary care provider to a specialist the rheumatologist who would diagnose them definitively with RA At that point the room mythologists really has at his or her disposal multiple different types of treatment options In today's world they would then move to trial and error The 1.6 million patients today that have this disease many of them are very well controlled and stable but many of them are not and they're currently at risk of switching drugs having their doses escalated and ultimately not having the solution yet for what it is that will keep this disease in check in their system All of those patients those newly diagnosed and those that aren't on a stable drug regimen that's working for them are eligible for prism RA as a blood test of simple blood draw to really give the doctor a clue as to what's happening molecularly in the patient's body what they can't see with their naked eye to then prescribe the best possible treatment for those specific patients Is it an indication or a sign that medicine and the medical field getting a lot better Absolutely One of my biggest things that I look back on and celebrate as a physician is we're no longer treating individuals by a diagnosis You're not treating the diabetic in room 12 or the RA patients in room ten You're treating Sam and Sam's disease And you're learning as to what is driving down disease state and molecularly the things that you can't see with the naked eye And then you're treating it and the benefit of that is not only does the physician but also the patient gets to see those benefits They know that their drug is working They start to see improvements in their disease state and they really have confidence that that type of prescription was really delivered to them or ordered for them specific to their molecular makeup And that's a huge achievement for us As we really think about all the different ways that we've moved from population health to personalized medicine That's doctor Sam is Gary and chief medical officer at cipher medicine at I'm cleve Albert kogo news wherever news happens stay connected stay informed News radio 600 kogo Donna here and I want to talk to you.
"mythologist" Discussed on WGN Radio
"That's the fact that Jimbo had a short one 8 6 6 5 O Jimbo But 866-505-4626 with professor Gigi quick grand ball and a mythologist senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins center for health security and an associate professor in the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg school of public health and one thing that I've heard frequently on this program is people saying that well these new vaccines the Pfizer the Moderna the Johnson & Johnson are mRNA They're not really vaccines as such Your thoughts about the notion that they aren't really vaccines What do people think they are Of course they're vaccines They're general line of thinking is that while it wasn't made the old fashioned way so it can't possibly be good I see Well so they are vaccines in that they help prepare your immune system to face the virus that the vaccine was designed for So there are there are so many vaccines that have been developed around the world that in response to this virus And these are some of the best So this technology has been under development for decades But it's definitely this is it's time to shine We are very lucky that the technology was available when we were hit with this devastating virus So it's hard to argue with success and it's done a really great job of preventing many thousands of deaths 26.650 Jimbo one 8 6 6 5 O 5 four 6 two 6 In terms of the preventive measures let's say a 6 foot distancing hand sanitizer the wearing of masks are these all things that could be roughly put under the category of when in doubt be careful or are these things that we know are helpful Well now that we're heading into the winter months things are changing a little bit People are much more compared to last year around this time People are doing many more of the things that they were doing several years ago There's a lot more mixing of different households you're getting together People are going out They're doing things So other diseases exist flu is picking up RSV is picking up and there are a lot of other diseases that are transmitted by not washing your hands So hand sanitizer is not really not going to help you so much with COVID but it will help you with that With that a lot of other diseases that will get you sick When it comes to flu RSV and COVID those are all transmitted through the air And so anything that can be done to improve your air quality like in your house turning if you have electronic HVAC system turning it from auto to on when you have people over so that the air is continuously circulating and putting it a good merv 13 or better filter in your furnace These are things that you can do to improve the air quality and that should help with not only COVID but flu RSV anything that's transmitted through the air And that goes for all the variants too Variants are not magic These are versions of the virus and they're all transmitted through the air and we so any measure that you can take to breathe clean air or to prevent that virus from getting into your nose or mouth that's a good thing I've actually had people tell me well I got the flu vaccine so I'm covered I don't have to worry about all this COVID stuff It's all the same thing Yeah these are very different viruses And I mean flu is no joke I don't want to diminish it at all People should get the flu shot It's not as awesome as the COVID vaccines It will in general not prevent as much disease But it's definitely better than not having a flu shot And it could keep you out of the hospital So I definitely recommend that and it's because people think oh it's just a flu I think when people say that I think they're really referring to a bad cold because flu can really put you out of work for weeks on end I had the flu once and then I got bacteria pneumonia that followed the flu that landed me in the hospital for a couple of days and so it's not no fun to be sick no fun to have the months of recovery afterwards So just do what you can to not be sick I've looked at the flu a situation of course we accept every year The fact okay well the darn things changed again I got a flu shot last year Need to get another one this year We pretty much accept that This of course is merely a carryover from the last major pandemic which was after all a century ago is that where we're headed with COVID that every year you're going to have to get a slightly adjusted COVID shot Maybe it'll be part of the flu vaccine regimen You may even get everything in one shot or is that a concern But in other words it's not going away but it will become something that is manageable And of course although people die every year from the flu but it's sort of like those 30,000 people who died car wrecks We accept that If nothing new and therefore we don't get panicky Okay well people die from the flu People die from all kinds of things People die from jaywalking We accept that but with this latest pandemic we haven't reached the point of saying well it's a part of our lives like it or not Yeah I mean it's true that we have all these deaths from flu and from other diseases every year It might be the case that we do need a shot every year that is a booster Maybe it's tailored to the virus at that moment It's really hard to say right now I hope that the booster once people get the booster that will be a longer protection than that But we'll have to see we can't it's really hard to project But you are absolutely right that this virus is not going away One of the biggest clues of that is that this virus is what they call a generalist virus It's able to infect lots of different animals And so it's already in the deer population that's been found in mink Different zoos have had problems that I saw something today that some snow leopards died of COVID So it's able to infect lots of animals probably a lot of domestic companion animals as well And so it's going to go it's going to be around We're not eradicating this More to come one 8 6 6 5 O Jimbo when 866-505-4626 and we'll be back in just a moment.
"mythologist" Discussed on Backlisted
"Around this beautiful house. Soon noticed, as we were walking around, there were lots of hours. And so we got in the car to drive back to this field from langdon and suicide. I know Alan was not okay. I'm just, but I didn't know that he was no mythologist as well. Because he told they had written this book about hours. And then we sort of put two and two together. And realize that our Ghana was the Alan government. And he wasn't a normal father. In fact, he knows a very little amount, but. I don't think he did from that time on. We were good friends, because we just got on well together. And then from them, I obviously heard about Alan's books and we started reading them. And have never stopped since. Yeah, he's always very interesting about the forms of friendships. He doesn't tend to form franchises with other writers, but he put him in a particle physicist or an archeologist or a historian. He's very interesting. Should we have the first clip? Can we hear the first? We've got some clips to see now. I should just say from two sources. One is from the book itself some readings from the book by Robert Pao. The actor who was at Manchester grammar school with Alan and indeed matches the gram school is the book is dedicated to MGS. And also some clips of Alan speaking to Liz his daughter who's here this evening. Shall we have the first clip of a bit from the novel? Joe let go of the post. He flung himself against the sour into the coat onto the vial beneath. And the man opened his arms to let him in, but did not hold him. Joe roared. He yelled, he wretched. Then he pushed himself away and crawled to the opposite seal and sat. His wrists on his knees, shaking. His head drooped. It was a hurl of thrombo a winter, said the man. A lumpa hummock of night. Nothing more. Joe could not speak. But summer is nearly come. Joe lifted his head. Chaco. Treacle. Walker. Treacle walker, I have in this land. What sort of a name is that? I heal. He. Made better. All things save jealousy. Which none can. He opened his bag and took out a bone. It was a shin. Narrow, old, hollow, yellow, crazed with black lines, polished, and holes cut in, and has slit at one end. What's that? Said Joe. I made it from a man that sang. Can I ever see? Treacle walker passed the bone to Joe. He held it and felt it shape. What's it for? Jekyll walker took back the bone, put his mouth to the slit, his fingers on the holes, closed his eyes and played. The chimney filled with two. It was a tune with wings, trampling things, tightened strings, buggers and bogles and brags on their feet. The man in the oak, sickness and fever that set in long-lasting sleep the whole great world with the sweetness of sound, the bone did play. Joe sapp and did not speak. The chimney was silent. It is a way for him to sing now. Said treacle walker. Can I ever go? Treacle walker passed the bone across the fire basket. What must I do? Hold, and breathe. Joe put the bone to his lips. Like this. He blew. The notes came, pure. The call of a cuckoo. Across the valley, a cuckoo answered. Did you hear that? Cuckoo. Erica, let me throw this to you. Can you give us a sort of a pricy of the book? I mean, tell us, tell us what we're just we know there's a boy and we know there's a man. What else do we need to know? You don't want to know too much. I don't think it's true. If you haven't read it, there's a boy. There's a man, there's a correspondence between worlds. What I feel about Allen's work is that he shows us that the connection between this world and the other world is right in front of us. If we choose to look, if we choose to step into it. And the two worlds are like a palimpsest. Existing on top of one another. And it's the story of a boy discovering how he can exist inside time and outside of time and how the objects that are all around him connect him to magic. That's what I would say about this book. I have to say that's a pretty brilliant person. Sorry. That doesn't make you want to read the book. I think nothing will. I'm interested in the objects that sort of string through the book. I mean, we'll come on to we'll come on to the bodies a bit later on. But right from the beginning that there are objects. There's the bone of a sheep and treacle walker has a bag that was bob about the name treacle walker in the middle. All of these objects, as you could see that Alan was fingering various the Dober, which is a marble. These are real objects. As an archeologist, I mean, is that something that sort of you respond to? Absolutely. And that flute you've just heard about really exists. It dates to the Bronze Age and it is made of human bone. This is a piece of research that was done by colleagues of ours recently and it was found in a burial. And archeologists have spent a long time working out how to read time through the layers that build up with a cake and we go back through those lenses through time. But that's not how time comes at us. Time comes at us, it erupts out of those layers and objects come to us and touch us from different times. And so what I love about the objects in this book is that that's what they're doing. They come out of all sorts of different times. The child's time, time, long past, who knows time in the future. And they are the points of connection that create these moments of encounter, where time is loosened and you feel its presence with you. So the flute, the marble, the donkey stone, which for people who don't know what it is, it's a byproduct of the cement industry that kept housewives busy to polish their doorstep and show that they were good industrious women who looked after the threshold now in Alan's hands. Something completely other because of course his house is resonant with these objects that are hidden under the threshold the half and in the chimney that are about keeping your house safe from things that should not enter. And the care you show to the house is part of how you keep things out or let things in and show your care for a place. So the materials, the objects are about the things that one must do to care for the places that one lives in. And we are just that momentary inhabitants of them. There are other people who have come before and will come after..
"mythologist" Discussed on Thought Row
"Century Modern. Yeah, I guess it's it's the funny thing about labeling art historical periods. I would say their modern and contemporary depending on how far back you go. But I think like with long as your tastes and likes, even though they're not ghosts, are definitely contemporary they work with well, I think so. Both of those people are now. Deceased is actually my favorite. Yes, she went temporary to this today. Yes, for sure. So, William also, you know, had close relations with Roscoe. And Stephen other Knuckles was part of the Light art movement, and Bush is Super Active today. So yes, definitely part of the Contemporary scene. But there's like so many others who, who are sort of, they they became Niche. And I don't really know why I thought maybe it's, you know, Gallery representation or, you know, the workings of the art world's exposure General. Yeah. But that was my goal was to see how they fell into a job. It's a whole art historical movements of their periods and how they were in dialogue with artists of their time that were more familiar with both inch. And I have looked at your website, is not impressive and we are listeners. Take the time to take a look at it and it's very interesting extremely well done. By the way, thank you so much. It's really quite good choice. What is the first thing that comes to your mind? When you think about the history of Greek art? I think what comes to mind is how it seems like. So much of the population is more familiar with Antiquity and then somehow from Byzantium and later we had ups and downs in the history of Art and how closely related artists were with other countries. And of course, like a number of wars and mishaps historical. Historically, speaking came to play dead, And that as well, because Grace has gone through like a number of very difficult historical periods consecutively, really have the, but I think that's what I've what I usually think about the most is how or ancient history and artistic production seems to be the most well-known, but then everything else. Sort of falls into people's individual interests. Yeah, now in your travels, through Greece, what was your favorite place to visit visually? Like, where when you go there you just go. Oh, this is just a slice of Heaven song that has so many places. I'm sure it's Fallen. I think I've fallen in love a little bit with everywhere. I've been. Yeah, I think though towards the end before moving back to New York I had spent a considerable amount of time in southern and western peloponnese, so around the area of birth. What we call Missy Mia. And that was a truly beautiful area. It had a lot of medieval remains and a very intense history with like Grace's Revolution for Independence in the eighteen hundreds. Yeah. So it's, it was interesting to me to see how people were maintaining their traditional architectures and how nature seem to be so different from, you know, like the cycladic islands that most people are familiar with it's much, more mountainous and green, and I just felt magical driving around those Villages and learning about each place has history is. And you wouldn't think that so many small places would have such a wealth of History. Get like each one had some event to narrate. It's a pivotal part of the World. Civilization is taking place there. Yeah, you know. Answer this question but I'm not sure. Kind of touch on it again a little bit. So I get the impression, both engine. I get the impression that it's your goal to help improve Greek art and its understanding in America, but it's Resurgence if you will. Yeah, that's exactly right. So I basically want to put it in to context and direct dialogue with global artistic movements in production of each artist time because we have for example, we have like wonderful modernists in Greece. One example would be pekus and it's great to put these people back into dialogue with their own contemporaries and, you know, in Europe and America because it sort of creates like a greater continuity in history, and it just seemed as meesh as it might right now. And I noticed that lately, there's also a movement from other groups in that same direction. So, it feels like it's dead. Thing that's growing as well, which is great. Like, for example, we have like art Gaskins residency, that situate artists from America in Athens and now, they're also seeking to go the other way around. So creating a cross-pollination between the two markets, there's Hellenic American project, which has a mortgage sociological streak to it but it Maps, the history of Greek diaspora at Queens College and it also produces exhibitions. We have them American folklore society which is focused on the full Glory historical production in America primarily. So yeah there's there's been a lot of movement lately so it feels great and it feels like it's expanding formidable project for you, definitely. And I know we were talking about Greek mythology when we had your initial phone call log. In to really thought your answer was very interesting. So, I wanted to ask you about that. I know in the United States were exposed to various stories about Greek gods and things like that. But LS, you were experience and thoughts about growing up with Greek mythology, sure so much? Like most of us you start with a kosher version of the month and then the more I grew in the more into history I got the more I wanted to read more and then I became fascinated with how mythologist Joseph intercepted and influenced, you know, more cultures across the world and not always necessarily positively. And of course like especially if you go into like feminist issues that you know, that was a fascinating thing to see and also you know by extension see how artists and people are sort of reacting and responding to it today?.