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"myra hindley" Discussed on The Empire Film Podcast
"Given the times we're at the moment, given you know, we're we're still in the in in throws me to and and time's up was that something that you discussed with Isabelle and Chloe onset was something that attracted them to it without something attracted that you to as well, I think it attracted everybody to that. It was that it was it was relationship between women, you know. But I mean, this this I'm not I'm not telling a story of feminist empowerment here. It's just the fact that it was the kind of men were irrelevant was intriguing refreshing. Really, you know. And I don't think there is that too aspect of this really is necessarily either. But it just is fascinating that there's a woman in this movie who is overtly evil is very strong word. But she's very very clearly the, yeah. The great villainous fairytales. Snow White Hansel and gretel people kept me awake at night when I was growing up. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And isabel. So you reading the script initially, and it is Gary woman. This is with, you know, potentially shopping trolley full of debris and detritus is Bill who paired this necessarily leap off the page from that description. You gave me she would never bag lady. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. She was somebody who live in a nicer apartment in Brooklyn. Oh, always had that. But she was exhausted by life. You know to me. Oh, she. No, she I don't mean. She was a bag lady at all. But she was just somebody who was older more. Obviously maternal, you know, that kind of thing is a bell was interested in the the potential to explore. The demonic aspect of a character really without excuses. You know, I mean for me to make this movie I need to to Riga three really good actors. You know, and you know, when they when Chloe Isabelle, Mike it. So they wanted to do was in really the Domino's she researched. She did research a lot of what does that case? Fritz will the Fritz location. A lot of these cases of cases of duck shin. And the interesting is they're all male Roman except for Frederick West. He had female accomplished in. Yeah, rose. Yeah. And and who's the lady the moors murderers Myra Hindley Myra Hindley, who's regarded as the far more. Terrifying. Figure that eight was at e and our partner wasn't Brady being tested, a serial killers. I feel like I'm being tested, a serial killer. No, I'm not an expert at all. Company that I know too. I knew these names mmediately, what does it say about me? I knew I knew somebody who actually slept in in what's name again, Frederick West house. Really? Yeah. Because it was like where where is somewhere in Somerset or your around? Yeah. Yeah. Traveling around you know, you go to pub- you smoke dope. You meet some people. You haven't any way to stay some as they'll come and stay. I know I know I know a crash pod. Another kind of thing seriously on he spent the night there lying on the floor with Frederick and Rosemary West house with some other people. I think you know, which is kind of scary, isn't it? Wow. My god. But it's interesting to talk that you are so close to kind of pathology, you know, in particular city, you know, behind any door that could be not a ghost, but Pune monster. You know, another thing that peel to me, this was actually that. There was no supernatural element to it at all. But it's like, well, you tempted to in check. One. No, no moments in the in the film, actually, regretted almost feels supernatural overseas. Fully Micheals character. Mike, it cannot see her for love or money that felt a little supernatural. As a filming you shape, the film oversee three times once in the screen and the scoring process again in the ending stage, but onset when you're making a psychological further like this where you have a a villain who displays many times in the film as she can pop out of nowhere. That must be a lot of fun to exercise sort of muscle..
"myra hindley" Discussed on WWL
"Progress from our Jefferson financial Federal Credit Union studios on WWL after's in the thunder and the nuggets in Boston and the jazz and the pistons the pistons Blake Griffin, I think today we should be excited. The fact that we're in the six or seven seat true. Like, you're not wrong, which is rare. But in this case, you're right. However, the pistons are basically the New England Patriots compared to the Lakers right now. That's when you're going into Juneau offense, and you're playing the pistons, and you and you're looking at your schedule as a team that is supposed to make the playoffs. You say that's a loss things have gone terribly terribly wrong, Los Angeles, eight five five two one two four CBS. Although I do like doing Casey a lot as a coach eight five five two one two four CBS who's to blame. Let's get back to you know, my brothers in Vegas. And I tell you guys eulogizing I said in the air sends me these these. Photos from Vegas like the chips that he's one. I got home from the train coming from the train onto the show. And I get like a bunch of text messages, or if it's lonely night just one, and there was this is my brother with mounds of chips. I love my point is a love Las Vegas. Trace. Don't judge me? It's Chris in Vegas. Chris. What's going on buddy? We're talking blamed for the Lakers. Appreciate you hanging. With us. You're on CBS sports radio. Hey, good evening Bill. Third time caller. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome back. Thanks for sticking with us, man. Live in Vegas, but grew up in Oregon surprise going out to my brothers out there in Oregon love what they said. And a couple of ideas, I want to put out there some questions and ideas, and you can weigh in. But I, you know, does this just proves once again that the level of competition has increased in the NBA LeBron has gone from Eastern Conference out a Western Conference could that be part of it? But he here's a guy that you would think he should be able to at least taking the play offs put him on his shoulder. But it ain't happening as we known some bad losses. Busy enough talent surrounded by talent. We've already answered that question. Gosh, there's other teams that are doing well thriving with no all-stars, but that's not it chemistry. My brother back in. Where was he calling from Milwaukee talking about chemistry? How would it feel if you're a young player and Magic Johnson comes along and says, they we're to stop all you guys gonna try to go after Davis that sailed surprise surprise, what kind of motivation level is there for these guys to go out and play hard? We've talked about that. And finally the last idea Bill style of play. Of course, I'm not a LeBron fan. And here I am looking for other reasons for him not to be the one to blame. But style of play LeBron wants everything going through him. And that's just not going to work. It's not gonna work, and it has proven not to work. So I think style of play has to be something they gotta look at. And they've got to change their style of play. They got it up per game. And LeBron is getting old. You've said it before he's not gonna carry this team. What what's the answer for the Lakers? Again. Good thing. I'm not a fan of the Lakers out Kris, Greg, call keep calm and thank you for the thirteen a third time caller. Appreciate you hit a lot of great stuff there. But I love about the show is we have such great, callers, you you for listening to those who the call in makes me think of these sort of different things, I'm interested in. So I'm going to focus on one you talked about as because he went to the wiser as the competition gotten better. I don't think you'd find any safer harbor in the Eastern Conference this year a walkie with Putin Holzer next level rappers with choline, really, Nick nurse next level. The Sixers with the development of Embiid and Simmons and other season. Not next level. I blend the Jimmy Butler thing Celtics are a mass. But they're still the Celtics, and I'm not saying the pistons are gonna win a bunch of games. And I'm not saying they're going to make an Eastern Conference finals. They've won a ten they played really. Well, did the team they probably should have been. I'm a huge doing Casey van. They would've lost to LeBron Cleveland last year's LeBron Cleveland team. They would have won a game in that series. I think my point is I think you're right. I think we're at an inflection point in the NBA not the Eastern Conference not the Western Conference in the NBA. And that inflection point is two seasons long. We're in that pivot from when it was the warriors team too. I think this remarkable parody is incredible competition this year and next year. I think when that's going to be transitioning, and I'm really hoping that Durant leaves and goes to the Knicks because I want the warriors to be good. But not certain I want them to be interesting, but not so dominant that it's hard to watch. And I think LeBron's inability to understand the incredible way in which the league raised its game is. As part of what's to blame your. He thought he could coast like it used to he thought because he went one thousand nine hundred twenty once before in January just turn it on January any losses team and he lost his season. And that for me is why it's on the brawn James. So I do think the competition's changed. And I think that's going to be theme in the NBA the next few years. Eight five five two one two four CBS Pat in Vegas. Welcome back. You're on CBS sports radio, buddy. Hey buddy longtime Lakers fan, and I blame this entire season on management, man. Because let me tell you first off they knew what they were getting with LeBron James. That's that's number one number two. They said that they weren't planning on this being this was being supposed to be a building year. And yet they had a whole bunch of veterans come in from one year contracts, and then the three people that they're building with which Kouzmin bow and Ingram. They decided to lead the trade basically bloop in their face and got leaked to the press. And now, they're they're they have no solid foundation anywhere. You look at it. They have one year contracts on veterans, and they have three guys it's supposed to be their futures. They're going you guys. Don't even want us. It's ridiculous. I I don't think old man. Bus open bus must be turning over his grave go. What are you guys doing with my team? Hopefully, Pat, he's not paying attention because he's up in heaven playing cards, but I'm with you. I agree. It's been ugly. Myron tweets, sportsreiter, sports REIT are. Hey, bill. My bum of the week. I love I love this bumble week. Suggestions is my legs. I blame everyone. And then he tweets, you know movies. There's from which a great gif. I don't know. You have to you have to hit me up. Myra Hindley Becca. Sportswriter sports are sports REIT are treated me there. I had no idea. I feel like Stu. All right. Let's let's let's close out these these phone calls Raymond in Omaha. Love them. All what's up, buddy? You're on CBS sports radio. Hey, Bill, you taking my call tonight. You bet amuse. Yeah. Music to my ears tuned in here. And that there's finally some blame being placed on broad because everything that I've been reading at tuning into been more blame for Luke Walton bandaged man Bajic Johnson specifically, and I've thought along the way this entire season. It's out of an austere just seeing what bronze kind of coast through the season. And I thought more blame should have been placed on him. So is that. A good thing to hear finally somebody was setting light on that. And I just think that the effort hasn't been there all year, and I know he was hurt for a little bit. But coming back after not getting those guys traded and just seeing how he just laughs effort on rotations and didn't hustle back. And and just showed really poor body language that really didn't galvanize the team to get a playoff push going. And I thought that was the main reason why they're in the physician there. Now Rammer thanks for the call. We're going to do one last call. We're going to close it out with sly in Anchorage sly. Appreciate you, buddy. You got the last word, you're on CBS sports radio. Hey, bill. How're you doing my brother? I'm good. So everybody's blaming LeBron including yourself up not like this. We even if we made the play offs which LeBron when and got her we would have made the playoffs. We would have got bounce first round. Anyway. So I think this is a blessing in disguise, maybe we can get another quality player, you know, another lottery pick. So we'll see, but I I really blame management for putting these poor shooters around the broad the culpability. I gave LeBron maybe ten percent CD really changes game. He couldn't really he tried to be ball dominant with this team. And I think the next year. We'll get a D it maybe Klay Thompson. I think we'll be back in the hunt again sly, they you get a D And Klay Thompson, you will win the next three NBA championships as John I put out there for the standard. I think of what they expect one to win to to make appreciate the call slide. Appreciate all the perspectives. I loved you in the show. Thank you for listening. Thank you for calling. We're going to transition a little bit of baseball. I'm a big fan of rob Dibble the talent..
"myra hindley" Discussed on The Emma Guns Show
"But it's the having the confidence and the self I know this so like worth and the feeling of icon get myself out to be like, actually, thanks. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go along with this. Because I feel really weird about what's happening here. And that's really difficult like how what point do you feel like you could say if I was in that situation. I'd say I'm a confident person. But would I be able to look at these people who were giving me a lift and say, no, thanks. I'm not getting back in that call with like Killeen, STAN, or Ariel Castro cases, where people women or children get into cars with relative strangers Ariel Castro new every single go here -ducted they were in the same year as his children at school. So he wasn't a total unknown to them, which is why they get in the car and every abduction one of his daughters is present at one point. So he's using that as a sort of a safety net. We know. No, you can't trust me. You know, my I'm Emily stab and same thing with Kaleen. Stan she got in the caucus of the women in the same thing with retinas west they will able to pick up these people because they trusted them because there was a woman there, and it wasn't just amount on their own. And yet and the rose West's instance, particularly she was the victim report, the more evil the two. Yeah. And I think that's always a really fascinating when you have couples that kill and the woman's motivation in this because it's very rare that women are in fact, I didn't think of ever come across a real case apart from maybe I'm rose west, but she has different motivations. But they're not really sexual sadists. If you think of it in the sense of the pain, and the pleasure is what gets them off sexually. They're motivated by something else. So when you look at someone like a Myra Hindley or arose west their motivations to me is a really fascinating. Because what are they? Getting out of this. It's easy to pinpoint what the men are getting out of this than what they are. And that's why we've covered both the most murders, Dan, Frederick West. I think that's why people are so interested in the cases women who kill is something that people are very interested in because we're not necessarily expecting it. So woman's motives, usually and children and show -cially. Usually women kill for revenge or so that poison people for money. It's there's always a very clear-cut. I will gain this from this action, which isn't necessarily the most interesting kind of case. But when you look at Myra Hindley rose west, it's not that. So it's much more interesting to look into ones. Like that. I would say then just someone knocking off the husband 'cause they want is money. Are you going to become ambulance chasers? In like when this matter in the news you can. Yes content. So sorry that such poor taste. But it's a good question. Because we've always done his like more cases that there's lots of content out about so that we can process processor. And then put a story together that we wanna tell but recently, we sort of started to try and do the more timely ones. Like, the Chris watts case that happened in August twenty eighteen like, we just waited until the trial was done until he was entered the police department released a two thousand word report about with all of the evidence that they could share shit, but like five hundred pages of those two thousand more redacted, and they release that the day they released we started research on that case and gaining confidence with doing that. But I think that is a confidence thing. His before outages. Everyone else have a go at it. And then we can at all two cents to. But. Yeah, why not let's let's get ahead of the curve. Now is it just stuff that you access Google or do you have to go through? But can you contact? Would you contact like a police department in America and say can we have access to those files? Something we want to start doing more of again. It's just the time factor right now, the biggest inhibitor to this show having longer episodes more series episodes three or four parties or anything like that..
"myra hindley" Discussed on Female Criminals
"My asked Leslie and help her pick it up and carry it to the car with her then she offered Leslie, Anna, ride home the little girl. Didn't notice how quickly the doors locked around her as she got into Myers car once my report in front of her own home. She coaxed Leslie an inside with her. Ian was waiting with gagging hand, they bound Leslie into their bed and stripped her while Ian, guided Myra and taking naked photos of the little girl. He turned on the tape recorder under the bed, the sixteen minute long tape recording of what happened to Leslie. And in that room sizzles with grotesque nece as Lesley and called out for her mother and father and begged for Meyer to let her. Go they raped and tortured her relentlessly at one point, Leslie and can be heard saying, quote, please God help me. I want to see my mummy, and quote Myra can be heard snapping at her to shut up and threatening to hit Leslie. And if she didn't the decision to bring their victim to their own home, and to record her suffering is an example of what serial killer investigators call escalation Myra, Ian, four went their normal pattern of taking their victim to the more in favor of taking their victim home where they were more likely to be discovered it's like robbing a Bank at night when no one is there versus robbing a crowded Bank in broad daylight, the increased risk can up the thrill of the crime, some serial killers escalate their crimes when they feel they've gotten away with it for too long research by east Illinois university, his found that escalation often happens because the excitement of the original experience. Dims over time. The novelty wears off each successive. Murder is less new and exciting than the last especially when the risk of getting caught seems to have diminished. It's similar drug addiction after a while a little bit doesn't cut it anymore, serial killers require more risk and more brutality to make them feel the same way after Myra Ian finished raping Lesley, Ann. They turned off the tape recorder and one or both of them strangled, Leslie and to death. They washed her body tossed her and her clothes into a sheet and cleaned up the scene, then they drove her to their graveyard in the more and buried her as a final memento. They took pictures of each other standing over Leslie ends grave in the wake of Leslie ends disappearance special task forces were assembled by Manchester PD to comb the fairgrounds for clues and to go door to door asking questions as they had after Keith. Bennetts disappearance. But once again, there just weren't enough bread crumbs to follow it seemed Leslie n had simply vanished slowly. But surely, she became another cold case. But something seems to have happened in the months following in and Myers, brutal attack on Leslie, Ann, Ian became overcome with pervasive existential dread, he was bored. As he later said he felt at age twenty six that he had accomplished everything had set out to do raping and killing had somehow become pedestrian to him. One nineteen eighty five study by Jon Lieber te a psychiatrist known for his research on serial killers. Like the green river killer found that over time the self image of these killers weakens eventually giving way to despair and self hatred that can affect their ability to kill again or quench their thirst for violence entirely. If an had been left was own devices at. This point. He may never have killed again. Myra however, wasn't content to let Ian fade away from her. If Ian needed to escalate his violence to bring his passion back, so be it. She was willing to Lur as many children as it took to keep their spark alive soon. Myra and Ian 's star crossed romance would steal the life of another teenager. And this time they would welcome an audience into their home to watch them kill..
"myra hindley" Discussed on Female Criminals
"This time they targeted the Manchester neighborhood of long site on June sixteenth nineteen sixty four Ian spotted twelve year old Keith Bennett walking down a sidewalk alone. Keith had only just left his parents home and was walking a few blocks to visit his grandmother when my redraw up beside him an offered him a lift once again, Ian and Myra drove their victim to Saddleworth more where Ian sexually assaulted and tortured Keith before strangling him, then they rolled Keith into a grave before bearing him. Ian took a polaroid photograph of his body research by Rhodes university suggests that serial killers take trophies or souvenirs from their murders for several reasons. First it allows. To relive or fantasize about the crime during their cool down periods. Second the pieces or photos allow these killers to remain in control of those. They have dominated while away from them for Ian. These photographs were mementos to help him relive his crimes for Myra. They were tool she could use to keep Ian with her. And to remind him of what they were capable of together in the days and weeks after Keith went missing police searched for evidence that Keith's stepfather had done something to him even going so far as to rip up his garden and the floorboards in his house. Looking for Keith's body. It's common missing children's cases to look towards parents and stepparents as the most likely culprits as their around the children every day. Even though the police would interrogate Keith stepfather another three times over the next couple of years. They also expanded their investigation throughout Manchester policeman, literally went door to door to inter. View neighbors about their whereabouts. If someone was unavailable at the time, they would return later when they were home the house calls began to consume enormous amounts of the officers work hours and private time, but they had strong motivation to discover what had happened to Keith Bennett. Detectives with the Manchester police department had begun to suspect that John Kilbride and Keith Bennett's disappearances were linked, and that there might be a serial killer loose and Manchester. Even though crime rates at that time in Manchester were very high children almost never went missing to have two twelve year old boys. Disappear only six months apart. The detectives reason their cases must share a common link if the increased scrutiny bothered in and Myra they never seem to show it their lives in the months after Keith's murder were domestic and simple, Ian and Myra went to work, and they reconnected with friends after my res- twenty second birthday on July. Twenty third nineteen sixty four Myra and Ian spent more and more time with my resume. Her sister, Maureen and her new husband, David Smith, David had a lot of baggage. He was quasi infamous in Manchester for once stabbing a boy during a school fight and for once punching his school headmaster in the face Mirus. Parents had objected to Maureen and David's marriage from the beginning Myra, Ian on the other hand. Like, David immediately, and David admired, Ian, he and was ten years older, more worldly and seemed to have his life together. He had a stable job still working at the same chemical distribution office as Myra he did whatever he wanted and Myra was in emerald with him. No matter what Ian brought David under his wing much in the same way. He did with Myra. He gave David the same Nazi texts and marquee to Saad novels had given to Myra to read. He told David about his plans to rob a Bank almost as if he was testing David loyalty the way, he tested Myra. He also taught David how does shoot a gun Myra, Ian, Maureen and David would routinely picnic together in Saddleworth Moore's near and sometimes right on top of the places where Ian and Myra had buried their victims at some time in late nineteen sixty four Myers grandmother who Myra and David were still living with. Had to move to another government subsidized house in the nearby neighborhood of Hattersley Myra and Ian moved with her. And shortly after they were all settled in Ian told Myra it was time to kill again. No doubt emboldened by the fact that they had never even been suspected of their previous crimes in and Myra decided that they would do things differently..
"myra hindley" Discussed on Female Criminals
"She gathered lengths of rope. A shovel and serenaded knife and found a dark wig to cover her bleached. Blond hair on November. Twenty third nineteen sixty three they went hunting for a victim in the nearby area of Ashton underline by a market both of them knew. Well, one little boy stood out to in twelve year old John Kilbride was loitering in the market hoping to chance into small jobs the same as Ian had once done. Ian signal Tamara this would be their next target Myra asked John to help her carry boxes to her. Car when she was done. She offered him a ride home when John jumped into the front passenger seat. He didn't see Ian hidden in the back Myra locked the doors and drove to Saddleworth Moore's as my Relator told police, Ian, took John from the car and disappeared over a hill. Half an hour later, Ian returned from IRA when he showed her John's body John's trousers were off and his clothing was pulled up tightly over his chest. According to Myra, Ian, told her that he had raped the boy, and then tried to use Myra serrated knife to kill him when that failed. He used a length of the cord Meyer had brought and strangled him. Ian, however would later tell police that my repair John's arms while an raped him. And then pin John's legs as in strangled him the victims. Families will never know the truth about what happened to their children. And neither will we either. Away. A portion of the blame falls on my rush shoulders together, E N and Myra buried the twelve year old boy, and then celebrated by his grave getting sick on wine and whiskey that they had brought with them over the next two months Myra and Ian returned twice more to visit Pauline and John's graves and take photographs over them one of these photos shows Myra squatting over John's grave with her beloved puppy who she called puppet and all the while Manchester police had to missing children's cases on their books that were quickly becoming cold cases by early nineteen sixty four there were simply not enough connections between Pauline and John's disappearances to link them and too few clues otherwise to solve either case that would change a few short months later for a few months just visiting the graves of his victims seemed to sate ins bloodlust serial killer. Are often categorized by cooldown periods between their kills however by June of nineteen sixty four ins urge to kill had returned with a vengeance..
"myra hindley" Discussed on Female Criminals
"He had told her that when he saw someone he liked he would flash his lights signaling Myra to lure the person in eventually, Ian, flashed his lights. My return to see year. Seven-year-old Marie ruck walking down the sidewalk toward her moments passed like ours. As Murray walked by Ian waited for my read a roll down her window and offer the little girl a lift, but she never did. In a fury in waited until Marie was around the corner. Then sped toward the van on his bike. He knocked on the window and demanded to know why Myra hadn't grabbed the girl Myra said, she knew her Marie ruck was a neighbor of her mother. She also told Ian, there'd be less fuss if they took a teenager instead of a younger child my report the van out again and continued circling the neighborhood by a little past eight PM Ian had spotted his second choice. He flashed his lights at Myra up ahead. Myra could see a sixteen year old girl in powder, blue dress and white high heels making her way down the street, and she recognized her to it was Pauline re. Read when of Myers sisters friends. She was on her way to a party when Myra got out of her van and approached her worry creasing her brow. Pauline recognized Myra and asked her if she was okay. She told Pauline that she had lost an expensive glove while out at Saddleworth more my asked Pauline to help her look for it. But then apologized for keeping Pauline from wherever she was going Pauline smiled and waved away Myers embarrassment. Of course, she would help Myra look for the glove. Pauline hopped into Myers van and away. They drove towards Saddleworth more. Ian, followed behind when they arrived at the more in sped up on his bike. And my introduced him to Pauline saying that he was there to help them look for the glove Myra told Annan Pauline to go ahead. She would follow a moment after according to Myra half an hour later, Ian returned alone, and led her to Pauline who was still clinging to life despite horrific injuries. Ian had beaten raped and stabbed her and tried to slit her throat twice her coat had been shoved into the four inch incision across her voice box. The cut was so deep in fact that it had entirely severed her spinal cord, Ian later told police that Myra had not only been present when all of this occurred, but that she joined him in raping and assaulting Pauline. Like most things the truth. Probably lies somewhere in the tw-. Listed terrible middle of these two conflicting accounts. It's unclear whether Pauline was still alive when Ian and Myra dug a shallow grave and rolled her inside they buried her and drove home as Myra drove into her neighborhood. She spotted Pauline family already combing the streets looking for her for weeks after police disappearance Myra went out of her way to say Hello to Pauline's mother, an express her hope that polling would be found soon. Ian would later tell reporters that Myra enjoyed talking to Pauline's mother knowing Pauline was never coming home eleven days after Pauline disappeared on July twenty third nineteen sixty three Myra, and Ian celebrated Myers twenty first birthday after the unique bonding experience of murdering Pauline Myra believed their relationship would last a lifetime. But Ian was already tiring of her. He gave her an expensive gold watch for her. Her birthday, but apart from that he saw her less and less frequently in the weeks after Pauline's murder instead he began hanging around gay bars and cruising for hookups with men as he drove around Manchester on his motorbike, we can't know with complete accuracy. Whether or not Ian Brady was bisexual or gay or if he was simply sadistic, regardless of the gender of his sex partner as we'll see later on when it came to raping and murdering children. He didn't exhibit a preference for either boys or girls, we will note though, that Ian, sexual mentor the marquee. Saad was notorious for seeking out any and every sexual experience. He could find consensual nonconsensual gay straight or orgy nothing was to exotic or exciting for him. It may simply be that. Ian was following in his mentors footsteps by experimenting with sexual partners of the same gender around the same time also. Most to punish Ian for turning away..
"myra hindley" Discussed on Female Criminals
"In nineteen sixty one Myra Hindley was smitten with her co worker, Ian Brady, she was so namrd with him that she began to do any and everything to get his attention. She wanted to please him so badly. He could get her to do or change almost anything about herself that he wanted curiously research published in the British journal of medical psychology suggests that this kind of all consuming submissiveness can affect how a person responds to trauma submissive often reinvent themselves. Like Myra did following her friends drowning they're also more likely to feel survivor's guilt. Like Myra did after her friend died, and that guilt often compels them to seek out a group to belong to with reckless aggression. And once they find a group to which they would like to belong. They become self sacrificing doing whatever they can for the group even at their own expense and the expense of others more than that. However submissiveness. Is often away those with survivor's guilt work through that kilt by allowing themselves to be punished in Mirus case, he ends indifference to her was a sort of punishment on December twenty second nineteen sixty two. Ian, took my reticence the film judgment at Nuremberg starring Spencer, Tracy, and Burt Lancaster, the film examines the trial for Nazi officers following World War Two, Ian, must have felt comfortable enough with her reaction to the choice of film to take her out again over the next few weeks in gave Myra Hitler's Mein comes to read and introduced her to the novels of the market Assad while most people would see vs book recommendations as a massive red flags Myra seem thrilled that Ian had finally taken an interest in her and let her into his private world. She read the books thoroughly and surprised him with her attention to detail. Ian reveled in the control he had over her. He would often. Tell her to do and say things simply to see if she would she always did soon the pair were inseparable their relationship escalated dramatically in the following months. In early nineteen sixty three twenty year old Myra slept with Ian Brady for the first time, Ian tied her to the bed where he bit and beat her in writing about the experience in her journal Myra focused on how much pleased him not on her own response to it. It wasn't just her first time with him. It was her first sexual experience ever early stage research conducted by the university of Tennessee found that our first times leave a lasting impression that can affect our relationship with sex for the rest of our lives. Over time we unconsciously seek out sexual experiences that echo our first no matter if the experience was positive or negative in the following weeks. Myra give Ian permission to have. Anal sex with her and in her journal later, she would note that this pleased him immensely, which only encouraged her more at times. In would also give Myra the reins allowing her to experiment with him becoming the dominant partner and even inserting objects into him the national coalition of sexual freedom has explicitly stated that if it's not consensual than it's not just rough sex. It's abuse in Mirus case Ian had already tied up and beaten her without her express consent. He might have given her control periodically to create the illusion that the violence had already done to her was not an abuse perpetrated by only one person, but something done by equally. Consenting adults borrowing from his beloved marquee to Saad who believed in a very free view of violence sexuality. Ian, often told Myra that rape and murder were not wrong as usual Myra seems to have accepted his point of view. You without question by February of nineteen sixty three just two months after they began dating Ian had begun taking nude pictures of Myra and of them having sex together at Ian, insistence Myra stopped attending church and instead joined him as he dove deeper into Nazi ideology.
"myra hindley" Discussed on Female Criminals
"For her feelings of guilt and PTSD in response to her friends drowning on top of that she couldn't turn to her own parents for help working out her feelings, and we don't know if she ever approached her grandmother for help in fact, experiencing childhood trauma such as being beaten as an infant only increases a person's risk of experiencing PTSD. The support structure was not in place to help Myra cope with her friend's death in a healthy way. So instead my relied on coping mechanisms such as turning to religion and dropping out of school to help her get through in January nineteen sixty-one nineteen year old Myra landed a typist position with a chemical distribution company on her very first day, her new boss introduced her to a young man who would send her life spiraling into darkness. Twenty three year old Ian, Brady wasn't like the other men my renew. He was serious and studious. He read books instead of spending every night out at the pub. He talked about exotic locations neither of them had ever visited. They had a lot in common as well. Ian had been born in Glasgow Scotland to a single mother who eventually gave him to another couple to raise much in the same way Myra had been given to her grandmother. Ian was also very intelligent and it set him apart from his peers from young age teachers would describe him as whip smart, and terribly lazy except when it came to crime he'd gone before a judge three times for breaking and entering before his seventeenth birthday as a condition of his release for his third quarter appearance. Ian was sent to live with his mother and her new husband in Manchester. But he wasn't there for long before an event happened that would shape him forever while Ian was. Working at a local market. A man had asked him to help him load goods into his car. Whether Ian knew the goods were stolen or not. We don't know. But we do know that when police arrested the man for theft. They also arrested, Ian as an accomplice in was sentenced to two years in England's equivalent of juvenile hall, Colin Wilson. Ian Brady's prison pen pal said, Ian, deeply resented what he saw as an unfair sentence passed down by upper classes that only saw him for the class. He had been born into this punishment sparked a festering hatred him. He wanted to make society pay for the unjust hand. He felt he had been dealt in life, and he wanted to do it. So that his name would ring immortal after his death research published in psychology suggests that most serial killers experience extreme moments of humiliation and embarrassment while they're growing up and that contributes to their desire to kill. But Ian, didn't just kill as we'll explore later. He also violently sexually assaulted his victims research by the Howard league for penal reform in England has shown that rape in prison is seriously under reported and under punished in England as it is in the United States still using statistics. From the case that are reported between one and four percent of miners in their version of juvenile hall are raped while incarcerated though, we don't know whether Ian was sexually assaulted while incarcerated we do know that he himself pointed to this period of his life as the moment that changed him forever. It's possible that experiencing or witnessing rape in prison is what set him on the course to perpetrating sexual violence of his own while in juvenile hall. Ian studied bookkeeping and picked up an obsessive hobby of reading about Hitler and Nazism. His literary appetites grew to include works by the marquee Saad. From whom we get the word. Words sadist and sadism. He also made plans to travel and to fund that travel with petty crimes after his release. He joined a gang of car thieves and used his pay from those crimes to travel around the area..
"myra hindley" Discussed on Female Criminals
"Responsible next. Week will explore the final murder that brought Myra Hindley and Ian Brady's Manchester murder spree to a halt as well as the terrible and tragic legacy. They left in their wake the stories we've all heard about serial killers, usually paint them as men who stalk capture and kill their victims alone. But what about those killers who have help solo serial killers may get much of the notoriety? Heidi, but serial killers who work in pairs have made their terrible Mark throughout history shocking. The world both with the severity of their crimes. And with the fact that these murderers were able to convince another person to help them kill most of us can't even convince our significant others to go jogging with us. It's even more difficult to imagine the manipulative power someone has to have to convince other person to help them kill child. And yet that's exactly what Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Did this story is so notorious that Myra Hindley still considered the most evil woman in the United Kingdom, but she didn't start out that way. No, she didn't Myra Hindley was born on July. Twenty third nineteen forty two in Manchester England to an impoverished family Meyer's father was an alcoholic. Her mother was one of many dissatisfied young women who married into the working class only to discover that she'd spend the rest of her life trapped there her early years. Probably explain a lot about the woman Myra would eventually grow up to be her parents beat her regularly as an infant so regularly. In fact, that neighbors new to warn her grandmother when it was happening when my resume. Her sister, Maureen was born in nineteen Forty-six Myers grandmother convinced their parents to give two year old Myra to her to raise under her grandmother's care Myra developed love for learning and escapist literature. She would tell anyone who asked that she wanted to find her own adventure someday, she became a great swimmer and a straight a student. Despite turning my Rover to her grandmother's care, her parents were still active in her life. They were determined to ensure Myra knew how to look after herself by any means necessary to her father that meant knowing how to fight in nineteen fifty when she was eight years old Myra won her first fight against a neighborhood. Boy, she blacked his eye and broke his teeth despite that incident Myra became known in her Manchester neighborhood as a trustworthy and popular babysitter. Parents happily left their children with her from nineteen fifty to nineteen fifty seven when my return fifteen. She lived a comfortable life as a good student, trusted babysitter and friendly neighborhood face and then tragedy struck in nineteen fifty seven.
"myra hindley" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"Lived with before the eighteen eighty two and put him that four above a boy though he intimate not that we actually joke about this in the live show which by the way we got a bunch of shows coming up hope to see you on cluster cluster fest in san francisco cannot wait but it's like whenever whenever there's the adult seen a porno and it's like a teenager it's really only got two years the nineteen i don't like the term teenagers eighteen year old or nineteen year old because it's a sixty percent chance that it's not legal eighteen to nineteen it's very difficult to get in now he's gonna get in those years but they're still children even eighteen nineteen they're still children and so when he takes its he took him to the christmas party and then people then from men on like are you gay dennis and then he'd go and he would just spy is like they're responsible outta my auto am i not i like that answer question with a question that's good way to get all right any other corrections many more it's a majority of our life yeah oh yes in response to the claim we made about dennis nelson being the only serial killer with a dog he was not the only serial killer with the dog k ian brady in mira henley or myra hindley had a dog named puppet oh yeah that but that's like the closest one because we cover the rest in the actual this episode which we'll talk about is because we talked about how like john wayne headed dog is a boy i cut all that out oh you cut all that out because it didn't work with the flow of the episode it was like two minutes past yeah but you just cover that's why i did that so do this what we hear.
"myra hindley" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"Rookie lewis eight occasionally married mary criminals at least killers successfully and we that joe copy suit and we we don't interested in anything like that this this whole side to this of people have an interest in serial killers watching a documentary and you know doing a podcast about them to people who where there's like murder bela people were t shirts with serial killer zone i once and i remember telling you this years ago eastward can read books library in manchester and with my accent a woman walked in and she had a tote bag with myra hindley on it play the room live yeah so there's that whole other side that we find really bizarre yeah and like we never want anything to do with yeah and i think yeah that's the bit that five ratio it's really strange dilly reason ivor hardline actually i don't think if you if you're in prison is a serial killer i don't think you should be loud communication from people who are writing to you as farms search i just don't see how is a thing that happens i think it's mean h to their own i wouldn't do it i don't think he should i think the art of less writing is dying i think what you like i don't think that people should be stopped from 'cause i believe in rehabilitation oh i do solutely that should be allowed to kill ever been well those there's a great one not great.
"myra hindley" Discussed on KCMO Talk Radio
"Pigs or something by the minute king manson uh as though the were home invaders that killed uh the three people rather than himself uh anyway he was then uh and second trial and and he was convicted at that point of course joe mcginness had to write a different book whoops he's antisocial and and uh and narcissistic and all and then uh when the when mcdonald was actually in jail he then sued mcguinness hey where you said we were going to split royalty money because if you murder uh someone you don't collect royalties from a book so uh but nevertheless the california there was they made it trial out of it anyway rather than throwing it out in the basket and i came to the defence of joe mcginness and i wanted to educate the jury as to wear this crime was situated so to speak in the spectrum of terrible crimes obviously there's a lot worse than uh climb the passions like gene harris who um kill the ski guards they'll diet dr when she found that he was cheating on her with another woman but it was not quite as awful as ian brady and myra hindley when they would capture little children in the more assists deserted areas of england and strangled him and as record the screams on a uh a taperecorder and use the screams this kind of a sexual turn on later in the evening and i'll i'll i i wanted to have to come back here because this break doesn't move but i want to continue this particular thought of just exactly uh what you discovered in one very stark and telling example of uh of evil behaviour back in a moment geico presents unhelpful.
"myra hindley" Discussed on KBOI 670AM
"And he she noticed then he was dealing in a sexual way uh the older daughter and she said you know don't you dare do that or if you do it again the you know and he at that point uh he took a knife in any kill them um and then he rode a trying to get away with it uh the know the pigs or something right the mimicking manson uh as though the were home invaders that killed uh th the three people rather than himself uh anyway he was then a g and second trial and and he was convicted at that point of course joe mcginness had to write a different book whoops he's antisocial and uh endorses cystic and all the other and then uh when the when mcdonald was actually in jail he then sued mcguinness hey where you said we were going to split royalty money of course if you're murder uh someone you don't collect royalties from a book so uh but nevertheless in california there was they made it trial out of in any way a rather than throwing it out in the basket and i came to the defence of joe mcginness and i wanted to educate the jury as to wear this crime was situated so to speak in the spectrum of terrible crimes obviously was a lot worse than a crime of passion like gene harris who um kill the ski guards they'll diet dr when she found that he was cheating on her with another woman but it was not quite as awful as ian brady and myra hindley when they would capture little children in the more assists deserted areas of england and strangled him and his record the screams on a uh a taperecorder and use the screams this kind of a sexual turn on later in the evening at all i i wanted to have to come back here because this break doesn't move but i want to continue this particular thought of just exactly uh what you discovered in one very stark and telling example of uh of evil behaviour back in a moment.
"myra hindley" Discussed on WCHS
"Older daughter and she said you know don't you dare do that or if you do it again you know and he at that point uh he took a knife in any kill them um and then you road uh trying to get away with it uh the you know the pigs or something right the mimicking manson uh as though the were home invaders that killed uh the three people rather than himself uh anyway he was then a second trial and he was convicted at that point of course joe mcginness had two different book whoops he's antisocial and uh endorses cystic and all other and then uh w when when uh mcdonald was actually in jail he then sued mcguinness hey where you said we were going to split loyalty money of course if you murder uh someone you don't collect royalties from a book so uh but nevertheless the california there was they made it trial out of in any way a rather than throwing it out to an in the basket and i came to the defence of joe mcginness and i wanted to educate the jury as to wear this crime was situated so to speak in the spectrum of it was terrible crimes obviously was a lot worse than a crime of passion like gene harris who um kill the ski is guardrail diet dr when she found that he was cheating on her with another woman but it was not quite as awful as brady and myra hindley when they would capture little children in the morris is deserted areas of england and strangled him and his record the screams on a uh a taperecorder and use the screams that's kind of a sexual turn on later in the evening and i'll i'll i i wanted to have to come back your because this break doesn't move but i want to continue this particular thought of just exactly uh what you discovered in one very stark and telling example of uh of evil behaviour back in a moment here's the voice of charleston 580 wchs accuweather forecast cloudy breezy tonight couple of snow showers late low about thirty three and world's borrowed ido sleep cloudy told the high thirty six notified his twenty one body cloudy coldest unanswered in snow shower with a high of thirty eight on accuweather meteorologist dave bowers on the voice of charleston 580 wchs your severe weather.
"myra hindley" Discussed on BBC Radio 4
"International development secretary pretty patel held a series of meetings in israel to discuss government business without telling the foreignoffice she was accompanied by leading pro israeli conservative lavious downing street has said the miss patel did nothing wrong all diplomatic correspondent james landale has more details in august pretty patel went on holiday to israel but while there the international development secretary didn't just see the sites she also spent two days meeting the leader of one of israel's political partisan visiting firms in charities where she reportedly discussed depot mental business however she did until the foreign office as is customary nor was she accompanied by any civil servants she was however accompanied by lord pollak president of the conservative friends of israel a powerful proisrael lobby group tory ministers and mps say this is stab reached a perceived conflict of interest that potentially breached the minister ariel code of conduct others accused miss patel of seeking the support of wealthy pro israel tori donors ahead of a leadership campaign downing street said miss patel had done nothing wrong who department said it was a private holiday that she paid for herself court documents revealed that the moors murderer in brady's remains have been buried at sea brady was seventy nine when he died in may at ashworth highsecurity hospital in merseyside in a statement tame side and oldham council said the remains were disposed of in a manner compatible with a public interest and those of the victim's relatives sean deely reports in the early hours of thursday last week five months off his death from natural causes in brady's remains were driven to liverpool marina and dispatched at sea his body had been collected from the royal liverpool hospital and driven under police escort to southport crematorium now music was played a nofly was what committed these were the conditions set by order of the high court which stepped in to oversee the bolivian brady's body because of fears his remains would be scattered on settle worth more where his victims were buried he tortured and murdered five children in the 1960s along with myra hindley brady was cremated in the presence of his ciller a robin makin and his remained sealed in a weighted biodegradable learn eight sacked ministers from the catalan government of spend the night in custody after appearing in court charged with rebellion and sedition an arrest warrant could be issued today for the.