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"musselman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Red Raiders down, too, and in the backcourt. Bringing it into the front court right now. Tyler Edwards 10 seconds to play in the ball game. Edwards on the right side, with it still trying to weave through traffic out here top of the art four seconds. Three drives blue mystic Rebound. Arkansas game over Razorbacks are headed for the sweet 16. Oh, it's been a while 1996 last time that's happened Westwood one on the call there, and I know our next guest was sweating. Not just that attempted. Also previous one of the rim is well on the Red Raiders Had a look at the 10 couldn't put it down. Ah, hard fought win a great win. And coach Eric Musselman of Arkansas Year too, by the way for the backs. He's with us here on Tiki and Tierney, CBS Sports Radio KOCE doing buddy. What's happening? I'm doing great. I need some sleep. Didn't the adrenaline from last night was insane. But it was a it was incredible game. Uh, Texas Tech, so well coached there so physical, they have great toughness on did it was It was a street flight on the backboards last night, and there was no easy baskets. I can tell you that for me their side. How's the growing The quads? The Handy's You clubbed up on the table? Everything you didn't pull anything, did you, coach? Didn't pull anything. But I do have a very sore right Achilles tendon this morning. I've already done rehab twice. Nothing. Tourney just old age on Ben. I have a little apple as well. So Yeah, I probably should have, you know, reacted a little bit different in a little calmer. It's okay. You don't need to act your age man. Double a tournament. You go to that You go to the sweet 16. I love this. You know, Coach before we get into the games and like where you're headed, you're playing or Robert's in the next round. Um, this has been such an odd Season. But forget the season. For now, the tournament has had to have been odd and felt odd. How review all handled and manage the don't know that the lack of normalcy in Indianapolis Well, you know, it's it's funny because up until you know really coming to the to this, you know, whatever you want to call it a bubble or an isolated type situation We kind of we've done. We've been fairly normal. You know, we've only had one player missing two games. We We really We only lost one game all year, and it wasn't due to our rent. It was due to another program. So we got our full slate of schedule other than one game our practices. We didn't really miss any practice time. And then we come here on. Do you know what When you when you when you start thinking about mental health and like we're isolated, I know is, you know, like last night getting on the team bus I could only wave to my daughter, My son and my wife and I've never wanted to hold my wife's hand so bad just just to be close to family members, and it's the same thing with our players, but but we all understand. It. Being a part of this is really cool, and we want to do everything we can to get to a finish line, and I think that's how everybody feels even teams that have been eliminated. Is. How do we just figure out how to keep this great event going? The N C. A. A is done an incredible job. Um, it would be a word really surprised and shocked me. If we didn't get through a finish line, just based on how safe everything has been inside of what we call an N C a a bubble. We're all hoping and we're certainly old, praying. There's no doubt about that. We want to see this thing without another blemish. We had the one blemish and that's heartbreaking for VCU. Let's hope that that's the isolated incident right there were talking to Eric Musselman, head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks. So you took down the mighty Red Raiders of Colgate. Around one. You beat the Red Raiders and round two. You know what's crazy to be coach? I don't know how you process is right. But I do ST John's games and I noticed I do this a lot of half time like I look at the numbers right and I'll try to extrapolated like if the team is up, but playing poorly. Well, okay, that that's that's good if the team is down On not playing well statistically to me, that's an avenue to come back. You guys and a lot of this is because the Texas Tak their defense is phenomenal. You shot 41% overall 24 24 from threes. Weren't great at the stripe about 70% on Lee 10 assists, so's you processes I would imagine you're saying, Man, we beat a really great program without playing very well. But is there a flip side to that coach? Well, you know, it's so interesting. Having grown up as with a father, who was a coach he always used to talk about. There was three runs in a game. Can you control two of the three runs and in my brief experience in college, which it really hasn't been that long? We've had some incredible comebacks. Actually, every wind that I've had, which I guess now would be three. In this tournament. Actually, I think it's for my fault out of the four games. We've been down double digits in in all four of those games, and I think what you've got to try toe Express to your players is Hey, you just you gotta figure out a way to win the game on that particular night games. We're gonna have different themes that different story lines throughout the game and you just cannot get too high. If you're playing well and a half, but you can't get too low. You know if you don't play up to your standards, so, um, just I think the big thing is, How do you play as productive as you can, you know, through 40 minutes of play, and that's how you can survive. Coach. How are you handling these next three days Where you guys aren't you're there because you gotta change hotels. It Z all moving parts is like and I can imagine how logistically confusing and not even frustrating, but it is what it is because you're going on that sweet 16. But How are you managing that? What do you say into your players? What's practice going to be like? If there is any time for practice? What do you guys doing for the next couple of days before your next round? We're definitely practicing week how I can promise you Arkansas's practice. I don't know what everybody else is doing. But we've already had four film sessions, although are far film sessions. Only last between four and 12 minutes. Part of it's because their coach, meaning me, has a D D and wants it to go because quick as possible, In all seriousness, our players You know, I think if you can hit him with short bursts of film, it's really productive. But we did have a walk through. Um, you know, we didn't guys didn't even have their shoes on. But we did walk through sets of Orel Roberts and and and and how we might want to defend a plan A plan B on their picket rolls and And and then tonight I'll start in productive plans see, just in case things don't go as planned, but there's a lot I think right now being in the situation we're in. You can actually threat. Morshed so now because there's not anything else to do, um, you know, we did get to go to a baseball stadium. Today is a team. We played a little bit of soccer a little bit of bad mitten and I had to call it off because we did bring a football out there and I looked over and devote Davis. Our Star defensive guard was was running past routes and Jalen Kate are starting point guard was defending him. They actually ran into the badminton poll. That boy I say we're all headed back. We've had enough yard time. Let's head back. As quick as possible to the hotel boys back on the bus back on the bus. So so, Erica, you know, I'm curious. How does this work You just mentioned you start to introduce him sets and get a sense of what? What Orel Roberts likes to run defender the pick and roll, etcetera. But do you go back to just the two games that or Roberts has played in the tournament? Do you kind of piece together what they've done the entire season? How does that break down for an unfamiliar opponent? Yes. So today we watched all of them because we played them in a nonconference game. We scheduled them at our place. We were actually down 10 points at halftime. So our players automatically have great respect for them, But we watched all of their made baskets. Today. We kind of dissected. Where are holes were on Ben. We started to go through made baskets against Ohio State. On Then we will get to, um you know, we'll probably go back to their conference tournament as well on baby Pull some clips of how Somebody in their conference such a South Dakota coach by Todd Lee how they guarded Orel Roberts. So there's a lot of detail that goes into it. One of our coaches charge of their sets..
"musselman" Discussed on Pardon My Take
"That is bullshit pulls you donald's six or college or create fucking bullshit if people if you if you know the big washington video money out of your what's your fucking biden are not gonna get it so i i never. I never once tweeted from this account until until yesterday. Yeah and you had it since. Well i'm having a little bit here you did. You did make it seem like you created it right after we talked about which is like bill. You actually even asked was it create. Went out of my way to say that it wasn't that which is really say i don't even we're about to say a second ago. I don't think it was created march. Because when i ask. Pf t he did not give me that answer so you knew but that's how you get six different accounts and i never tweeted from the account until yesterday in fact i changed the handle. I changed the name. The only thing that was to you off was the fact that it was created a year ago. But the first tweet came yesterday right after i twenty right after i tweeted wasn't created burke was it walter cronkite ghost note okay. No-one keep guessing side. A little bit with billy though because you did make you implied that it was made right after. We talked it on tuesday night. That's that's the only thing. I was expecting him. The ones that were in march so but he was telling you that that was wrong the entire time he was guessing cat. Yeah i mean. I i saw in europe was right and now you're saying porsche. Yeah exactly exactly see i. I haven't followed his stick. At least i thought it would somewhere in twenty twenty one rating but then you picked a yeah and you can watch walking fourteen in the video. I never say that nobody started this kid. Leave now outed yourself as a liar. You said you'd never had a burner before now. You just say you have a burn No i just specific purpose purpose never came to fruition. I was going to tweet video from it. But i ended up writing a video from that but that is a burner as they say. I never tweeted on the tech if you if it was. If it was under oath you'd have to say anyway. I'm sorry. I i would like to apologize. The wls that this has been tarnished as a helper constantly answers and they weren't sending it and then we all know. I was young except for me. Because every fucking love and his burn account life jake. Congratulations will have you selection rock. Some new suits on the broadcast. Maybe some european cuts probably She got here. You should get a pinstripe suit. I was thinking. Maybe one honor craig. Sager little funky okay. What does that mean for you. I don't know if your funky suit guy you're a you're you're talking about funky suits. Roy has like hasn't even been canceled. I know i shake your funky socks guy. You could pull off like yeah. Some fun saw like a bright colored. Sock all right. I'm actually very happy for jake and joe. You aren't madison. Ever seen you do your take your neck was popping. Jose could say i was mad. You cheated me napa for jake bill you hang hang y so worked up about. I'm not. He's not but billy so if anything. Hey can i thought that has on put. It's clear that you were following along that it wasn't created. Yes yes well. I looked through. I started looking in march. I looked through over one hundred accounts in looked for one. I was falling. You from the out. I know there's all anybody else at this company. You still fall nine followed today. His tweet sucked got sick of seeing billy. Pop up in my timeline. Yeah should we talk about your stupid day drinking. Tweet real quick actually. I thought that was pretty funny tweet. It was funny but it was was. It was a joke. Lamar odom clippers. He's on crack. It's hilarious catches doesn't understand comedy. What's what's funny part. The diction now. It's just like you said like he got addicted to candy. Decries stopped snowing pills from the gas station. He also smoked crack. I believe so explain. Stephen a smith is allowed to yell. At let's say off the wing. No shoes on crack murky terry. I don't think it's hilarious. Clips hilarious yeah. So that's why you'd wear it because you be like he was on crack. That's funny like he's hard actually plays for. You're wearing you dart's you not wear your nice jersey or formal where you're not you wear your like. I'm here to have a good time. Jersey is like crack the way you whip out your rounds. Johnny manziel notch your texas a and m. johnny manziel. Nobody the only reason. I i was upset about the lamar odom as he every other jersey. That lamar odom has worn is significantly. Better than the clippers. One lakers heat you are. I like those are all right. That's why you don't wear them to the the dirty you're gonna end up getting it muddy so change something nice. That's ozama when you're going to like a nice. A formal steakhouse formal. Your girlfriend's parents. Yeah got it all the royalty. The mixers right right. And what about the lakers. The lakers one is also you. Don't wait you're going to a game. that's that's you. Wear the lakers one to brunch. No switch over to the clippers once giardi and then you change your plaxico burress for the night you go to the game like you wear your good jersey. It's the game. Yeah yeah ok. The are the beer chugging champion of the nfl or white green. because you're probably getting added inappropriate to make fun of someone like lamar odom who actually died and came but like you're making fun of him. I post mostly no. he's alive. Yeah he did he but he came back so second life. I don't know i agree to most your list. Some sixers i mean. I'm very glad lamar's it's a funny list. It got the best. They're not the best jerseys there. The jerseys ugo ardian is that. So the paul rebel jersey wearing right now. That's an old one because he's no longer on the. I don't know if you've kept up with the news i Is that a dirty jersey. 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Arkansas Head Coach, Eric Musselman, Discusses His Team's Success This Year
"Know there's a game coming up tomorrow but if we could just get some final thoughts on north we're violating the twenty four hour rule or not. But how does it feel to. I mean your fans are buzzing right. Now they've been excited all year but that really brought it home the other night. I mean the thing that that we're probably the most proud of paul is just the fact you know we got thumped tuscaloosa and we got beat before that at lsu When we were in bad rooch pretty pretty bad too and and We were able to bounce back between those two games. We had a really physical practice with weighted vests. And and you know. I'm not sure we had enough legs To play the fast place style of play that that obama plays and coach you know gets his guys really get out and run and and You know looking back. We knew that that practice would you know would would maybe set us back slightly but we're trying to think long term. We had a great environment. I mean we. You know i understand. It's a pandemic but we had a really good student section. Our crowd was good. There's there's there's been a lot of excitement over the last few weeks with the way that the team is played and and it was a big game. Th you know anytime you get a top ten cheap You know and you can you can you number one. You don't get a lot of opportunities to play top ten teams then when you do and you're able to to get a win. It is a big deal for the fans at former players boosters and and for the student athletes to reward them for for a lot of hard work but we have incredible respect coach oats and his team and we know that you know they're one of the top teams in the entire country so it was a big win. But you're right you gotta turn the page. And that's part of your team is having maturity when you do win a big game two to turn the page and get ready for your next game. I mean you're now final two days of february and and certainly you're going to be going through this now. You're going to be going through this in the sec tournament and ultimately in the nc double a. tournament for for a program that has not won a lot of big games lately. How drill that into their their minds. That this was fantastic. But it doesn't mean anything tomorrow. I mean i think you know all you can do. Really paul's just continue to talk. educate You know. I told him today that you know. I'm a lot older than them. I'm getting getting towards being an old man. And and sometimes you gotta listen to your elders a little bit on on some of these things that you talk about that you know the game you know tomorrow when we play l. s. u. the prior game against lsu doesn't matter and our pr- prior win against alabama doesn't matter there's forty minutes you've got to go out you got to be focused and You know it's. I think that that just kind of how it is and and You know the good thing is having gone through it nevada. You know none of those guys that we had there had really been through it either But i think the big thing is just understanding that each day. You've got to continue to get better. I mean even you know with with with three games to go now. We're talking about how we can get better. We're talking about improving our practice habits. We we do a to onto pick and roll defensive drill today that i'm sure they weren't really excited about doing a two onto pick and roll drill that might be. You would consider a training camp drill but we want to get better and anybody that aspires to play beyond college. Basketball should should want to become a better pick and roll defensive player so hopefully you know you can get your guys excited to understand that you know you're not just doing it for the lead these last three games and then tournament situations you're doing it for the longevity of your career as
"musselman" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"To the paul finebaum show podcast and we welcome back. Great to have all of you here and right. Fresh from practice coach eric muslim and joining us from the university of arkansas coach. I saw your tweet that you were running a few minutes behind. We'll grant you a pass for for being with you guys i. how are you doing. Great paul thanks. For thanks for giving me a mulligan to come on a few minutes late. I appreciate it. Well i mean the fact that practice went long. You can interpret that in a lot of ways but your team's playing very well lately. So how are things going on the court. We've we've. We've played really good basketball. I think we've improved a lot as the seasons progressed. I mean we have a lot of young players on our roster ball and and the three freshmen. That are on the active roster right now. Those guys continue to get better by and grow as players and Oftentimes we have three thrash freshman on the floor at one time. Along with the south foreign contraband oversold or younger pieces of have really grown and and then two of our grad transfer have done a great job. jalen jalen has done a great job for us at that point guard spot. Jalen tape that justin smith we were missing For a few games when we struggled right around that mid point Of conference play. He's now back and healthy and he gives us a different dynamic. A guy who could play Four different position so we're we're a little bit healthier than than we have been and our competences grow along with the five. Sec wins in a row. You be kentucky. You're on your way to to play missouri. Which i bring that up because missouri has played incredibly strong basketball. Seth greenberg was here the other night and said he thought they might be the best team in the sec. Then they go lose to a hot omitting. Can you explain some of including your own team by the way. Some of the almost bizarre results were seeing this year. I just think the level of of talent the level of coaching and our league every night. is difficult and it's so interesting Our league has so many different styles of play Obviously alabama loves to push the ball shoot threes and open up. Dribble drive angles. Then you have Old miss and and coach davis they run a tricky one. Three one That makes it difficult to score a lot and lsu's got great athletes. You can go all the way down. The line missouri. Such a veteran late team with so many upperclassmen with great experience. They have great size. Helmets had an incredible year for drew. Smith's done a great job for the tigers as well so i think that what happens in the course of a new thirty game season and this year. Twenty seven game season you know. I've always felt that every team even the even the very best team in college is going to have one bad game and usually too bad games and the question is you know does that linger into three or four. But i do think it's hard over thirty game season or even a twenty seven game sees the play at your peak when you're traveling and even though the crowds right now or not having an impact i do think that travel has an impact and certain teams kinda hit a wall and then get a second wind but every night so difficult in our league and Like i said there so many great offensive weapons on each team and the coaching that you go against every night is is as good as any league in the country coach by now i mean we. We're all talked out on on what the protocols are or are not for covert but is that just baked into the cake. Now that you guys know what's going on and you have to go through it and hope for the best. No question paul. I don't think like you know we've tested the last two days back to back. Nobody says a word. Nobody's worried about getting over to the testing center On like everybody knows the deal you know. We don't know how what time you gotta get over there before practice and I just think really the the protocols basque all that stuff is just part of our life now and i don't hear anybody complaining about it. I think we're all fortunate when we wake up each day To be able to either come to practice or be able to play a game. And i think as long as you know we can get the student. Athletes that opportunity for them to compete 'cause this is a dream for so many guys. You gotta think too paul. Some guys gave up their their drained to play in the nba. To come back and play another year of college. So i just feel like it's our obligation to try to get as many games as we possibly can and do it in a safe manner as we can in the remaining couple minutes i would like to coaches hate to talk about the tournament in february. It's a march then april but the projections have you in there. And i know last year you had to run. And of course we didn't have a tournament. But how do you keep your guys focused on the next game because you are not both know. They're they're keeping up with the same things that we are showing on the screen every every day and every night who's in who's out i mean i think you know the biggest thing for us is just how you focus And prepare for your very very next game. And i know. Every coach says that You know we in the past have not really talked about you know where we are in february because what ends up happening is you know every game is a must win and all by the way when you get to the tournament teams either got to win one or two in the sec tournament Or you can't have a bad loss and so this conversation just keeps happening all the way until selection sunday and so none of it really matters except selection sunday and i think it's great for college basketball didn't february that there's talk about this buildup for march madness. It's what makes the events so great but we don't have any of that stuff up our boards or we don't have any pre game talk about the ncaa tournament. we're just trying to figure out. How can we get better. And then how can we beat the next opponent on our schedule chatting with eric muslim and the men's basketball coach at the university of arkansas coach. As you do you do you look very far ahead of me. You obviously know missouri's next but do you. Do you peek ahead and start thinking in terms of how you're going to react to once that next game is over or do you simply just go. Got a game saturday. Let's let's get ready for that are only focus you know and especially mine And the players is to worry about the next game on the schedule. So we're only focused on saturday's game at missouri doubt. You know the prep coach for our very next game on tuesday He will be working on the prep and then immediately upon the game ending before we leave the locker room. You know the last thing that'll be touched upon is our next opponent whether we win or lose We will start are literally Before the guys get you know in the shower before we spray team we do. We do start our prep immediately after that last game. Even if it's just for a minute or two minutes but but really. The focus is not on anything other than the next game. It's interesting though paul. I've i learned this from coach. Qb brown he used to break his schedule into mini mini segments of a schedule. He take a three game segment. Say we gotta win two out of these three..
"musselman" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"Of boats and stuff and It it it you know. It just made me of course being a floridian and i have family that lower over there in the bay area. It's beautiful so We'll tell you katherine on on days like today where i am and and really a lot of the audience you know. They're freezing rain and snow and sleet I i mean i. I absolutely hate winter so i with. This job moved farther north. I spent way too much time on this in in the northern part of the world but my favorite day is when it is so hot that you can't breathe because i've had an thank you for the call really do appreciate it so good to hear from you. Happy valentine's day. Thank you you too. You hope you guys have a great time. Carl is up next in kentucky. Hey carl carl. We're doing follow wonderful. Welcome on yard. Thank you i I miss your talk with van. These new football coach. But i've heard him talk quite a bit Before i'm a long suffering vanity football fan classes sixty eight and they had seen a lot of football games. A lot of basketball games down there. Well i'll tell you what. i'm sure. He didn't tell us anything you haven't heard but but i i was most impressed with his authenticity and his directness. And it's hard to when you're the vanderbilt coach you you you can't just come out here swinging and saying you know. We're going to win the sec next year. You wanna be taken seriously and i thought. He carved out a niche. That made a lot of sense. Yeah he makes a lot of sense to and The the other person. You're striving coming in so they're going to Beat everybody that was the coach. Just left i believe he Everyone starts out there sentenced talking about coach mason saying i like him very much but but he was never believable. Dander belt if they do have a really great year. It's it's unusual but it can't happen. James franklin proved that others have proven that but he just. He warned me out with the cheerleading. Especially when when you knew it was never going to get any better right. Yeah the last two or three years. Just you know that. That was two or three years too many. No and i know coaches. We had drink which on a couple of months ago after they won a couple of games i said. Did you really think you're gonna win as many he said yes and i forget. Football coaches are wired. A little bit differently. But i get it. I mean i've had bad jobs before. I mean by that is situated you have virtually no chance to be successful but and you can't go into the job saying you know we're we're terrible. We worked for a terrible place but It is it is fairly. But i'm i wasn't on television trying to sell my program. I was just doing a job. That was virtually impossible. But i thought made a made. It really really made it a believable. And that's the most important thing you can do. Yeah i'm really looking forward to this fall also team when we when we had vanderbilt's basketball coach on a couple years ago. He did not make it believable. And i think it's been proven to be correct at the job. That he was trying to sell us on is not the job that he's delivering stackhouse or yes. Yes yes i'm The jury is still out but The i'm i'm kind of skeptical. I don't i don't think he's going to be able to pull it off. I think he if he's going to be better. Hurry thank you for the call appreciate it. Okay thank you great to hear you. You bet. let's see here. Why are we take a break here. We have much more to come including a conversation with the very successful coaching and arkansas coach. Muscleman he will join.
"musselman" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"It's sort of unique because a lot of people pronounce kissing me. Florida and a lot of people come here actually to the courthouse to be married. So we're about ten miles from disneyworld and We also have a world famous Freshly freshwater lake That a lot of the bass. Fisher's come we've had bass pro Fishing tournaments lake toho so anybody that fishes might know it. But what i really wanted to call out was the super bowl i mean. What an amazing game I thought it would be a closer There was just so many unique things that There and the celebration yesterday was definitely Unique it It was really cool. We were able to watch on a Channel here from tampa and was like about three and a half hour. Cover each in I don't know if you happen to see some of the stuff that went on did my big question and it's pretty obvious. Was tom brady is drunk as he looked. Well they're saying he was there. There was The sports caster. That was showing that at that time. Said he had to be helped off the boat. And i think i think pitchers of someone with their arms around him to get him on the on ground they said is he Sea legs and i think it was more like beer leagues or something but it was just very unique The whole week leading up to the super bowl. You know 'cause we got so much coverage and it was just a shot in the arm and You know something that was positive. And of course you know and the fans that have been there for tampa bay box for for eons. You know my husband. And i actually saw the first victory parade that they had when they won the the first time and that was very very Great to you know to see the lombardi trophy coming down. The road there but Yesterday i just thought it was really appropriate that it was on the water and i mean there was just tons and tons.
"musselman" Discussed on Discussions in Spinal Cord Injury Science - ANPT
"Welcome to discuss. Discussions and spinal cord injury sci where we bring you interviews with researchers and clinical leaders in spinal cord injury rehabilitation. I'm rachel tappin. today. I'll be speaking with dr kristen muscleman who is last author on a recent paper in the journal spinal cord along with co co-authors. Catherine chan jaywalking less journal. Unger angela you and k musani the papers titled reactive stepping after a forward fall in people living with incomplete spinal cord injury or disease. Dr muscleman is a physical therapist and scientists with the neural engineering and therapeutics team at the cato institute which is the research arm of the toronto rehabilitation institute. She's assistant professor in the department of physical therapy and rehabilitation sciences institute at university of toronto. She's active in the canadian physiotherapy association and now of course and the american physical therapy association with this very podcast. And she's academic lead of the walking measures group and the canadian community of practice for the practice spinal cord institute so welcome. Kristen muscleman. thanks rachel so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm so happy to have you so. Let's start by talking about balance after spinal cord injury and i wanna talk about reactive balance in particular where the person needs to recover from a loss of balance. Can you just describe for us in general. What do we know. Or i guess. More specifically what did we know prior to this to this study in this area. Sure well react to balance. It's a key part of our posture control system. And as you kind of mentioned it really is our last line of defense against a fall so to try to recover balance that's been lost and so refers to our ability to reduce control of <hes>. The movement of our center of mass where or to pull our center of mass back within our basis support and we we can do this through movement at the ankles hips. You know which we've <hes>. Often called the ankle hit strategies or you can do it by taking <hes>. Rapid reactive steps to try to increase our base of support. And it's this <hes>. Rapid reactor stepping that. We've focused on in our research and you know surprisingly we actually don't know that much about reactive balance control after spinal cord injury <hes>. We do know that. In other neurological populations like individuals living with the effects of stroke. The inability to take a reactive step is associated with the occurrence of falls <hes>. And as many of those listening are aware people cred injury. Do you have a lot of falls as well. So a recent meta analysis found that seventy eight percent of the ambulance chasers with spinal cord. Injury will fall each year so it's definitely reasonable to expect that reactive balance control is impaired after injury <hes> but specifically what aspects are impaired wasn't known for example are there deficits related to the timing of the movements and muscle activation or insider their spatial deficits. So you know for example. Maybe they can't take a big enough react to step to appropriately reposition their center of mass. So those are some of the questions that we had. I'm going into doing this research. Great boy and i can certainly point to as a clinician. You're supporting things that i felt like. I knew already as i would experience that in the clinic of people having lots of difficulty with <hes> reactive balance after spinal cord injury and looking to the research literature and really having a hard time understanding how to proceed so for reinforcing or validating. The experience that i've had at least you study your your group did the study. And so what did you do. And what were the results. Yes what we wanted to do was to characterize reactive stepping in and people who are living with incomplete spinal cord injury so as a first step <hes>. We compared their to stepping ability to out of age and sex matched individuals who have a spinal cord injury and what we decided to do in this for study is focus on two aspects of reactor stepping so i is is a behavioral response which just simply looks at. How are the participants recovering their balance after appreciation. So can they take a single step like most people who haven't neurological damage do or do they need to take several steps to reposition that center of mass in their basis support or are they unable to recover their balanced. So that's the behavioral piece that we looked at <hes>. And then the second piece we looked at were these temporal parameters of reactive stepping so this includes things like the onset of muscle activity and legs <hes>. And also the reaction time so you know. How quickly can they respond for that. We look at the length of time. Between the onset of the nation and then the actual movement <hes>. That's elicited so in this case you know lifting off the switch a reactive step but what we needed to figure out how to look at this behavior in a standardized way and so we use a lot based assessment <hes>. That's called the released test <hes>. And this has been used with the stroke population it's also been used previously in older adults <hes>. And basically what it does it simulates a forward fall of course in a safe way so if you just try to picture yourself standing and you're in a safety harness that's gonna prevent us from from hitting the ground if you were to lose your balance <hes>. That saves you harnesses around your trunk. And then what we do. Is we attach a horizontal cable to the back of the safety harness right around the level of your lower back and then not cable which is about a meter long. It's attached to the wall behind you and you get asked to lean forward from your ankles as best as you can until about. Ten percent of your body weight is supported by that cable.
Interview with Kristin Musselman about Reactive Balance
"Welcome to discuss. Discussions and spinal cord injury sci where we bring you interviews with researchers and clinical leaders in spinal cord injury rehabilitation. I'm rachel tappin. today. I'll be speaking with dr kristen muscleman who is last author on a recent paper in the journal spinal cord along with co co-authors. Catherine chan jaywalking less journal. Unger angela you and k musani the papers titled reactive stepping after a forward fall in people living with incomplete spinal cord injury or disease. Dr muscleman is a physical therapist and scientists with the neural engineering and therapeutics team at the cato institute which is the research arm of the toronto rehabilitation institute. She's assistant professor in the department of physical therapy and rehabilitation sciences institute at university of toronto. She's active in the canadian physiotherapy association and now of course and the american physical therapy association with this very podcast. And she's academic lead of the walking measures group and the canadian community of practice for the practice spinal cord institute so welcome. Kristen muscleman. thanks rachel so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm so happy to have you so. Let's start by talking about balance after spinal cord injury and i wanna talk about reactive balance in particular where the person needs to recover from a loss of balance. Can you just describe for us in general. What do we know. Or i guess. More specifically what did we know prior to this to this study in this area. Sure well react to balance. It's a key part of our posture control system. And as you kind of mentioned it really is our last line of defense against a fall so to try to recover balance that's been lost and so refers to our ability to reduce control of The movement of our center of mass where or to pull our center of mass back within our basis support and we we can do this through movement at the ankles hips. You know which we've Often called the ankle hit strategies or you can do it by taking Rapid reactive steps to try to increase our base of support. And it's this Rapid reactor stepping that. We've focused on in our research and you know surprisingly we actually don't know that much about reactive balance control after spinal cord injury We do know that. In other neurological populations like individuals living with the effects of stroke. The inability to take a reactive step is associated with the occurrence of falls And as many of those listening are aware people cred injury. Do you have a lot of falls as well. So a recent meta analysis found that seventy eight percent of the ambulance chasers with spinal cord. Injury will fall each year so it's definitely reasonable to expect that reactive balance control is impaired after injury but specifically what aspects are impaired wasn't known for example are there deficits related to the timing of the movements and muscle activation or insider their spatial deficits. So you know for example. Maybe they can't take a big enough react to step to appropriately reposition their center of mass. So those are some of the questions that we had. I'm going into doing this research. Great boy and i can certainly point to as a clinician. You're supporting things that i felt like. I knew already as i would experience that in the clinic of people having lots of difficulty with reactive balance after spinal cord injury and looking to the research literature and really having a hard time understanding how to proceed so for reinforcing or validating. The experience that i've had at least you study your your group did the study. And so what did you do. And what were the results. Yes what we wanted to do was to characterize reactive stepping in and people who are living with incomplete spinal cord injury so as a first step We compared their to stepping ability to out of age and sex matched individuals who have a spinal cord injury and what we decided to do in this for study is focus on two aspects of reactor stepping so i is is a behavioral response which just simply looks at. How are the participants recovering their balance after appreciation. So can they take a single step like most people who haven't neurological damage do or do they need to take several steps to reposition that center of mass in their basis support or are they unable to recover their balanced. So that's the behavioral piece that we looked at And then the second piece we looked at were these temporal parameters of reactive stepping so this includes things like the onset of muscle activity and legs And also the reaction time so you know. How quickly can they respond for that. We look at the length of time. Between the onset of the nation and then the actual movement That's elicited so in this case you know lifting off the switch a reactive step but what we needed to figure out how to look at this behavior in a standardized way and so we use a lot based assessment That's called the released test And this has been used with the stroke population it's also been used previously in older adults And basically what it does it simulates a forward fall of course in a safe way so if you just try to picture yourself standing and you're in a safety harness that's gonna prevent us from from hitting the ground if you were to lose your balance That saves you harnesses around your trunk. And then what we do. Is we attach a horizontal cable to the back of the safety harness right around the level of your lower back and then not cable which is about a meter long. It's attached to the wall behind you and you get asked to lean forward from your ankles as best as you can until about. Ten percent of your body weight is supported by that cable.
"musselman" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"The sec. Stunk or buzz and a hell of a coaching job. And i think the latter not the former he get. He did a heck of a job and they were really good defense. They could throw the ball out. Should i take right terrible now. They lose two guys. You're just niebolo pretty good for him. He just a tough hard nosed new and and wendell mitchell but you talking about saving flex flag is legit jimmy. But he's going to have to rely on kevin. Marfo transit from quinnipiac was best rebounds in the country and it's going to have to reply on top of that on On freshman and his system then he brings guys together that they will be impacted by manhattan his guys on campus this summer and the pandemic probably as much as anyone because of the number of guys. He's going to have to immerse in what they're doing well Anybo was good. The kid from quinnipiac and i mean czar right. But i don't think he's gonna come in and rebound in that lake seth. We haven't talked about your beloved kentucky. Wildcats we haven't even we. You haven't broken down. You haven't closed your eyes and gone into the crystal ball. Give it to me baby. You know i mean this is going to be interested in returning players cam brooks. I think he i'm brooks when he gets. These look banged up a preseason. I think he had his moment where he can. Maybe i'm not saying. Washington understand is running his own race and that was the florida. Get the end of the season. Young the game. You're not threes in that game but the game because he played welcome kasey body because he did what cal asked him to do. He went to him at the end of the game. And i think the light bulb went on basically said you know what if i buy in and and play. Well coaches conference me to do that. I've got. I've got a buy in. And i think i think that that's what happened so i think he's going to be fine. There wing guys are terrific. Boston is is terrific. I mean he's six seven six eight long arms to put it on the ground and make shots turned clark not as advanced but wing guy with great size and length. I think the kidney transplant creighton's going to be convinced. Kids going to be huge devon. Ask you the kit. The freshman guard from for modern day is a big physical kind of like the harrison twin. The big physical garb doesn't really get downhill as much midst katie. He's a big time. Which is going to open up before they got sar upfront. An jackson kid in taught in talking to cow. He said this is. This guy's got a chance to be marcus camby. I mean he's six eleven. Y ou for blocked. Shots has tremendous tremendous instinct at field for the game He's just he's really really excited. Isaiah jackson and he just he thinks that he said me. 'cause you're gonna watch one time you can always going to be special so you've got big wings. Which colleagues got. They mentioned experience. Boy who is at creighton understand spacing and shotmaking. I think kion brooks asked the get healthy. Now you're not as high on limits are. What are they asking them to do. I think he's got an and this is what john said to me is interesting. He said at first he didn't understand the speed and the intensity. We did things and the expectation to do things this way every single day and and now he's getting up to speed. He has played in the acc. He's been productive on a bad team in the nfc he showed he can rebound the ball in the acc. He's finishing a little bit better. I think it'd be good in the oldest spreaker scouts going almost all dribble drive. It spread ball screen stock. A lot of dribble handoff. When a lot of different step up we start right now. You never know. He's going to go back to circle one and two before it's right and he's going to go to vegas eventually to the flat. The false moore's flat ball screen. But i think they're going to have a good seven man rotation which that's when they're at their very best is when he gets seven guys. Plant well together At a boston. Clockers i think they are and can be a steadying force. You know i think that could win. But didn't that took place a lot of shotmaking and a great on ball defender at hastings. I'm glad to hear you talk about kion because it it was sloppy early. You know he had an a. Wow the you know all that kind of stuff but You know again going back to a kid that you and i both seen this you know when when outside people get mild stupid many times that affects a kid and ultimately the kid makes bad decision. Goes somewhere else and next thing you know. He's he's gripped well. I like the key on brooks addis washington. The the dumb ass aau coach. I like to be squashed it. I liked it. He stayed with it. And i like really. I like the fact that he earned cal's trust because that's all that is. That's that's just a guy being trusted by head coach when you play at the end of the game when he really wasn't there so good for him and you expecting a pretty good year. Yeah i look i mean. He's an interesting guy. I mean he's long. You can make a shot and what he did was at the end. He made two threes never got caught up. He had ten points in that game but he made too tough basket to be into that game he may two baskets traffic the internet game. He came up with a big rebound murphy. That game and you know the certain things. All of a sudden coaches picking on me coaches picking on me coaches picking on me and then all of a sudden. I ha i see why coaches picking i saw. I saw an interview with him at their pro day. And he said most important thing is rowland's with this team. Besides obviously on court is teaching. The young players are Cows method in his madness and how much he cares. He said the took him. A wild understand can challenge jim every single day because he saw something special in him and he said thirsty four hundred and then all besides instead you know what i am i fighting only the guy wants to see me be successful and i think that maturity of stating that's my role now to the rest of the steam is important but you know who we are coming up talk with us. We got the must bus. Maybe we got the great. Eric and coach muss all before we start here. Certain back tonight. We're not proud. I i really believe there's gotta be a must bus long-sleeve drive it somewhere. You know that would fit dockage. I wear tremendous pride. Well we gotta try to figure out somebody to print one. We don't have one right now but there will be wondering if they'll address later will create one. I've become a porn star. Pull expertise span. Democrats plus.
"musselman" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"It's a perfect example. Your reaction no. I didn't overreact. I just set out of apology before we you know. Got it out ahead of it and to this point no no repercussions couple high. At the way we went. So you're right great frank but if that's the worst thing that happens to me i think i'll be a school that route. Now you're right right. Frank all right so we do to anybody but great. Break away a week from today. Depending on when people are listening to this that we're gonna play college basketball. I say that to you. You say time good. I hope i got caught. Something at south i say i hope because you know this doesn't look like it's going in the right direction at least in terms of tests but it feels like we are going to have college basketball. What do you say. I think we. Well we played college football. Every single week of last week's now we've had delays we keep on saints protocol plans and patients at. We're going to acne patient. We're going to have games. That are cancer. We're gonna be at games in tip. And maybe they don't take maybe an official gets the virus. But but i think we're going to start eight season. It's gonna be a season like any other it not unlike any other. But we're gonna we're gonna work through the roadblocks into detours look. We've got a little bit of positive news. We've got to vaccines on the way they're not going to solve college basketball but can solve a lot of other ills down the road. We just gotta we gotta deal with the idea of moving. The start of the season back to march to me makes no sense the earlier the better so that you have more leeway of learned anything from the pack twelve is that by starting later. They put themselves in a very small window so let. Let's talk about starting later. You know. I think we just saw the nc a. Yesterday when they came out and said we're gonna have the final four. We're going to try to put it in. Try to put it in my city. Indianapolis in a bubble type situation with games. Indy does mean in the indian. Means you know. Probably i you playing down airplane up at west lafayette. I don't know but but the idea that they're going to the ncwa feels like there's going to be a march madness. There's point to be everybody can say well they're greedy everybody's greedier but you got to conduct business you got. You gotta have business going. I mean we've seen so many businesses closed. We've seen the mental health aspects of businesses club business clothing. So you know. I i saw. I know some kid on some team. Yeah of course. The double edged can have the tournament. It's all about money. Well a lot of things are about money. I'll tell you the kid on a team says that it's all about giving you an opportunity to me like the biggest medical help. You shut down the season till march these kids that have been on campus since july that it actually been working towards something all of a sudden. You're gonna shut them. Bound sending them back into the communities where they don't have the same medical care they don't have the same testing. Let me tell you so. It's a mental emotional at chrysler. I'm living it every day with with a stepdaughter. That is dying to go back to harbored dying to play their season. Kinda lost without it. Now you could just and you do and and you make the most of it. But look we're reason i say You said college basketball. Starting and i said i hope i'm going to south dakota all right. We're going to tournament there. I hope because you know teams have been dropping out of different things. We saw loyola chicago. Just do that. we got some teams on pause So you know we're gonna season. I great we're good to have a tournament. I hope and i hope we started when we say we're going to start it. I do as it setting it as the moving it back. Look everybody's got to suggest and everybody's got an idea. Rick pitino idea was that good for him but I think a lot of people are are wanting to start it now. I think it's frankly going to start now all right. So we're going to have roy williams on on the podcast in the second. Acc basketball let's talk. Acc you think about abc back. In the day you would think do can carolina now. You've gotta take. Virginia florida state duke and carolina. So as you look at the league. Let's look at those four. Who excited about you know. I had a chance Last year to do a couple of virginia games and virginia had all the names gone right. You know jerome gone hundred gone gone but i really like a couple of guys i like jay hof like jay huck to me is in my as i look around the country and i think big guys. Luca garza trace jackson davis. I'm curious what a j. hub do during this summer. Because if he got bigger and stronger he has every skill that you want. Woolen tendency on tennessee made up. Shot the beat north carolina in north carolina. That tells me something about him. He's our new names coming up at virginia. I know we work with taylor. And we got previews and virginia's the preseason favorite. That's fine but i i'm anxious to see. Is this a next level. Virginia team with a bunch of new guys North carolina garrison brooks is the guy seth swear to god. This is so different college basketball. You'll know this but fans of college basketball can't name another guy on north carolina. Because they're going gonna be so. Reliant on newcomers can name another guy platek when that's not michael jordan. You know so it that's different. You mentioned florida state The cell bought but.
"musselman" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX
"Was about thirty years ago or so so I don't remember my timeline sure correctly but a few months later we were driving on a road near that hill it was night time and I built the car tires some so I stopped got out of the car my ex was with me at the time she didn't get out I walked to the front of the car not that you know for her no scratches or dents or anything to the body of the car clearly you heard a song pouring yeah yeah and I actually felt the court felt so little when we ran over whatever it wants okay adequate light so I I showing that under the car Musselman the car nothing did what I could see of the the wheelbase no blood nothing go to the back and there's nothing on the road for as far as I can see no unless an animal had crawled into the woods hello right on this right there was no sign of any fresh knocking over of grass or any single in that way you know for at least a hundred feet or so so I come back to the car or no blood anywhere no for no nothing so I go back to find the wheel and tell my axe will I'm sorry you know whatever it was actual data about it and we went home well a couple more months go by and my daughter woke us up in the middle of the night probably about the same time I don't know what he is horrified scream I've ever heard more scared the living daylights out of you I've got it is it really didn't so when we got her to settle down and that wasn't automatic we had to keep in her and telling her it's all right to the her and finally we started talking she said the cat well her name was flawed she.
"musselman" Discussed on Talk About Talk
"You're supporting points. Should all reference back to this message? Think cohesiveness when you're preparing your presentation. Andrew suggest grabbing a pen and a paper and writing your message out first then writing out your supporting points. And he says that this seems to work much better than creating your presentation slide by slide. He also suggests that we do not start with a topic sentence instead. Tell the audience at the very beginning. What their key takeaway will be again. This is your key message. It's not a topic sentence though. It's what your audience will learn. Basically you need to let your audience know that you will do the work for them. Okay so you have your one key message you've identified your key takeaway and you have L. Line of supporting points that flow directly from the key message next few things. Consider as you're creating the slides. I obviously each slide should fit with the main message and we need to be ruthless when it comes to editing out slides if you're ever wondering if you should cut something then cut it. When it comes to designing each individual slide remember less is more the fewer words and details the better. The slides are supporting you not the other way around. I also asked Andrew about adding stories or humor or multimedia elements such as audio or video clips to your presentation. Andrew advises us not to add these things. For the sake of PIZZAZZ. This goes back to the main message and the cohesiveness point it all needs to reinforce your key message. It needs to be organic again you. The speaker are the primary vehicle for the Information. The slides and other media are there to back you up that said multimedia elements can reinforce the key message and lead to increased comprehension and retention. So if there's a video or audio clip that reinforces your main message. Then by all means at it by the way I added a link to the video. Andrew himself plays in some of his speech. Is You know the one with the politicians election speech. I watched it and it is funny but also a bit tragic after you watch it. Let me know what you think. But don't feel too sorry for the Guy. He managed to get some impressive. Pr From that speech. But I digress. Okay moving on when it comes to humor. Andrew says stay in your lane. Your job is to share information and a message. You're not there simply to entertain the audience however you should trust yourself if there's something that you really find funny. Chances are other people are going to find it funny as well on storytelling Andrews says and I quote. If you have a point that you're gonNa make and you can illustrate that with story. Then I think go for it. Go for at ten times out of ten. It's always going to be more effective telling a story rather than just giving information. There's an old saying connect I then convince and that is what stories do. Andrew also mentioned that when it comes to storytelling. We all love the hero's journey hero goal conflict. It provides meaning a reason to care one last thing as you're creating your presentation keep it grounded in authenticity and passion got it authenticity and passion if you truly care about the key message so will your audience okay. Moving onto the second category of learnings delivering the presentation. Before you go out on stage you need to warm yourself up. Just like an athlete. Does this will look different for different people. You can experiment to come up with your own rituals. It could be shaking out your hands jumping up and down going for a walk personally. I like to do stretches. Think about meeting that challenge physically. Then remind yourself that you are in control. Your job is to communicate the main message. Then reinforce it with your supporting points and then tell the audience. What the main point is of each slide and when it comes to slides. I asked Andrew what to do when the audience actually has to read something. Andrew had some great pointers here. I remember that they can't read and listen to you at the same time. It's one or the other so if it's short you can probably read it to them but if it's longer you need to ask them to read it themselves. This means you explicitly asked them to read it. Then you turn around to face the slide and you read it slowly to yourself at the same time and take your time and breathe. Then there's thinking about what your body is doing when you're on stage the main point here when it comes to your body and your body language is that any gesture is going to be controlled and purposeful and precise so be expansive take up lots of space not puffing up your chest but rather standing tall and it's okay to stay behind the podium. If you're too nervous to move but generally movement is good. It's more interesting and it gives you a chance to dispel some nervous energy. Your feet though should be firmly planted. Don't be shifty and again move with purpose when it comes to your hands. Andrew says use them make gestures and don't forget to keep your hands visible by the way did you see Andrew Musselman's Baiocco photo in the show notes. I'M GONNA guess that it's no mistake. That his hands are in his head. Shot that way. We all know. He's not hiding anything from us. That's a great thing to keep in mind. Never Hide your hands and another point when it comes to hands remember. That homebase for hands is the steeple or prison position. If you aren't sure what to do with your hands hold them in front of your body in the steeple position moving on then. There are two different. Frameworks that Andrew highlighted to think about when we're on stage there's the strength and warmth framework and the four piece framework in the book compelling people the authors identify how a combination of strength and warmth is ideal in terms of influencing people and gaining trust and admiration. That sounds good right. In other words we unconsciously evaluate everyone we meet on these two dimensions so the first is strength as in the root of respect as in are you beneficial to me. Can you help me? Can you defend me? Are you strong? And the second dimension warmth is the root of affection as in comforting me and being on my side so when we're on stage we WANNA project both strength and warmth. I love that point. I also love the four piece Framework Andrews shared. He said he learned this. In his acting days. Four ways to add nuance or variation. To your delivery. That will help you. Keep the audience's attention. Do you remember what the PR? There's pitch pace posture and projection. So pitch means high and Low Register. Pace means fast and slow speed. Posture means moving your body but with purpose and projection pause and think on the Inhale Project. Your Voice on the X. Hail now the last category of learnings from these two episodes is the one that people perceive as their biggest challenge presenting with confidence. Question for you. Do you get nervous before you go on stage. Well you're in very good company. Most people get nervous and in fact. There's an argument that we should be nervous. That nervous energy you feel can enhance your performance. The number one thing that helps practice and repetition rehearse rehearse rehearse yes practice makes perfect one tactical thing to keep in mind. When we're feeling nervous is that it's really common to talk too fast. When we're not feeling confident we need to pause when we talk too fast. We sound nervous and it turns out that there are several benefits of slowing down and pausing. Pausing gives us an opportunity to breathe deeply as Andrews says anytime you're not talking breathe. Say when you're asking the audience to read something on a slide you can turn around. Read it to yourself. Too and breathe. Pausing also gives us the opportunity to think. And importantly pausing gets the audience's attention shifted cadence a small disruption in the rhythm of what you're saying can make people sit up and focus last when it comes to confidence. Andrew Highlighted Harvard professor. Amy Cut his work. I'll leave a link to her. Ted Talk in the show for you. Dr Cut his advice. Is that if you practice projecting confidence it's going to make you feel more confident. We should focus less on the impression. We're making to other people and more on the impression that we're making on ourselves as Dr Cuddy says don't fake it till you make it fake it till you become it. I was thinking related to that point. Have you ever heard that smiling releases endorphins? Think about it. Your body is so used to smiling. When you're happy that you can actually make yourself feel happier in terms of your biochemistry simply by smiling so the next time you're feeling down. Fake a smile try it. Let me know if it works. It really can't hurt right all right. That's it if you enjoyed this episode and you learn something I have two small asks. I please tell your friends you can send them an email or posted on social media or yes even tell them in real life. I would really really appreciate it and thank you. And secondly if you're not signed up already please sign up for the talk about talk email blog where you'll get free weekly communication. Coaching from me. Delivered directly to your email inbox. Just go talk about talk dot com or you can email me directly and I'll add you to.
"musselman" Discussed on Talk About Talk
"Today's episode focuses on presenting with confidence. When I told several people that I had an interview with a speech coach lined up. They all asked me to focus on confidence amongst other things so I decided to create two episodes. The first episode number forty-six focuses on preparing and delivering a presentation. This episode number. Forty-seven is focused more on confidence. So if you haven't listened to episode number forty six yet I suggest you go and listen to that one I. You'll get a lot more out of it that way at the end of this episode. I'll summarize everything that we covered in the previous episode and this episode. So you'll get one cohesive summary that covers three main things one how to prepare a or speech to how to deliver a presentation and three tips for how to present with confidence. Now let me reintroduce our guest Andrew Muscleman and then we'll get right into the interview. Andrew Muscleman is an actor and communications coach who trains clients to speak with presence and to tell a compelling story since finding his firm Fluency Andrews worked with clients across a variety of sectors including financial services corporate law commercial real estate technology startups and not for profit. Andrew previously taught and coached in schools acting studios and on television shows for over fifteen years as an award winning actor with an international body of work. Andros on his vast performance storytelling expertise to inform his coaching. So you said that nine out of ten people are really concerned about their confidence. And I have to tell you that. I've asked many of my friends and colleagues what to ask you about how to give a compelling presentation and one hundred percent of them. The first thing that they said was how to exude confidence. So actually how to feel confident but then also how demonstrate confidence Jimmy pointers listeners? On that I do first thing that I like to say to people. You just had one hundred percent of your listeners. Said we want to talk about this. That's something that needs to be we. We should pause and recognize that when people feel like I have debilitating fear of this. Don't like getting up. You're in very good company. Majority of the population does not like this. It's that'll jerry. Seinfeld joke right that most people would rather be in the casket at a funeral then delivering the Eulogy. So I think that's that's worth people remember that it's this is not novel this is. This is very common when it comes to the confidence again. Pausing is huge. Because we're pausing allows you to do it allows you to breathe and center yourself. It gives you time to think about what you're what you're GONNA say. You know a lot of people. The fear of pausing is I'm GONNA look like I don't know what I'm talking about and the opposite is true when a speaker is able to pause in front of an audience they just. It's a draw attention right in towards the main issue so magnetic the cadence just changes right completely young people. What exactly and if somebody is able to pause you just they look like they own the space. So that's a huge one. I also would say for those who suffer from a big fear of this practice. There's nothing that he's going to improve your confidence more than practice. That is the number one thing just French. The word for rehearsal. The in the theater is repetitious. Yo right it's that rehearsing just for the sake of repeating and that is that's something I would definitely advocate I am a huge fan of. Amy cuddles research on this so if any of your listeners haven't seen amy cut his Ted Talk. I've mentioned her a few times but they may have missed those there. You go and her whole thing. Is that if you practice projecting confidence which you can do by the way you stand the way you speak the way breath and we can talk about specifics on that but if you practice projecting confidence it's going to make you feel more confident it's going to change your psychology around all of this. The thing that I loved that she says is when speaking. We should focus less on the impression that we're making on other people and more on the impression that we're making ourselves and that's huge you know if you can get up there and her expression fake it till you become you. Pretend you're confident pretty soon. You'll start feeling confident yet. I believe that I believe an I. I know from doing some research on confidence that she's been highly criticized for that. But I I absolutely believe it because even physiologically nevermind mentally. Your body is learning at. Yeah Yeah I think I mean I love it. I think it's great. I think as an actor. I mean you go backstage. There's nobody by the way this is the other thing. There's nobody who doesn't feel nervous getting up in front of an audience right. I have been in shows You Know Sometimes. Actors perform a show fifty eighty one hundred times on that one hundred performance before walking out on that stage. You're still nervous. And if you're not getting this you should worry because a might be a psychopath and be. You might not really be carrying about what's going to happen. So that's a huge thing is that everybody gets nervous but if you see actors before a show would they are doing is they are amping their energy up. And that's another huge thing in terms of confidence that if you can get some energy going in your body whether it's shaking out your hands jumping up and down going for a walk around the block that is going to stand you in good stead. I got asked at thirtieth wedding anniversary party to deliver a speech from Shakespeare. So I said yes and the whole time. I'm sitting at the table and I'm kind of you know with my husband and with a friend and another friend and they kept turning to me where you would be okay and what I did. I got up and I went into the bathroom and I stood in the stall and I just quietly to myself rehearsed the first few lines. I shook my hands out. I spend my upper body. I did some deep breathing. So tell that story because you do what you gotta do. And don't ignore those nerves but really thinking of meeting that challenge physically. Which is what. Amy cuddy advocates. How're you standing? How are you breathing? And also what the energy of going through your body think that's a great way to combat those nerves. Well it's warming up before enough. Let it performance. I just keep thinking about right. Yeah Yeah absolut- if that you would never walk onto tennis court or basketball courts without stretching with right spending time getting energized eight warming. I interviewed a opera singer. Who told us about what he does to warm up his vocal chords before he goes to do a performance right. So it's it's yeah yeah to get into the zone. Yeah and I bet you I mean I don't know how long opera singers Biz but I bet you the first twenty five thirty percent of it is breathing. Yeah talked a lot of breathing is is huge so I also think that I don't mind the word confident but I don't like giving that advice to people saying just get up there and be confident because it's kind of like yeah. It's like telling a drowning person to relax is the I would love to you know. Yeah I just don't feel like that's what they might power right now but I think when it comes to your voice if you think of a strong confident boys a rich voice as opposed to a loud voice is you don't want sound like you're shouting at the audience but if you think hey. I'M GONNA speak this like I mean it. That is going to be another thing. That's going to just make you feel more confident and more empowered So I think that's a big big part of handling the nerves so so related to confidence. Can we move into body language? They're obviously related. And I know some people wonder how should I stand? Should I stay behind the podium shape? Pick up the microphone and walk around. And what do I do with my hands? Do you have any guidance there? Yeah so if we go back to this idea of strengthen warmth the first thing in terms of how you stand the reality is confident. People take up space. But there's an interesting thing with this strengthen warmth framework that the researchers call the hydraulic effect. Which basically means if you try to project one of those things. It's going to come at the expense of the other one. Oh Wow so you try and really be strong. You're going to diminish your warmth so as people assume they're inversely correlated until you give them evidence otherwise I think the the great example of that if you say to somebody stand confidently it m a puff up their chest and they raise their chin and they tense their entire upper body. You know you could say well. Yeah that is confident. But there's zero. Won't there right so when it comes to your hoster and how to stand. I think the two things to think of as I was telling people you imagined string. That's pulling you up so that you're naturally expanding you want to think of an expansive posture rather than creating any kind of tension and tension doesn't serve you as a speaker but it also looks aggressive so that is to be avoided so taking up space but in a natural expansive kind of way. The other thing I'd say to think about with your posture is your feet. Feet firmly planted really really firmly planted. And I don't mean that you're not allowed to move but something you'll see a lot of times of speakers is that it's got a little bit of a dance going on the shuffling back and forth. It's because that's where they're nervous. Energy is going O on feet again thinking of our our primal instincts. How that looks to us. It looked shift. You'd think the person is being deceptive. You know so I would say thinking of your feet nice and firmly planted. And if you are gonNA move move with purpose move with conviction. That's great advice. I've never heard that I'M GONNA be watching for that myself. End and others the the best thing that you can think of in terms of physical stuff I believe is control and purposeful. You want your gestures. You want your movement all look like it's a choice which rehearse or practice your gestures. Maybe yes. It's a little bit tricky because when sometimes when you tell people to rehearse their gestures and I'm going to talk about a a very common technique in a moment when you help people to work with these techniques the dangerous that it looks force but I think if you become conscious of your gestures and you become conscious of trying to be controlled in purposeful the more you practice it the more second nature it will become so in terms of that age. Old Question of what you do with your hands. The first answer is used the reason that we gesture I mean. First of all it makes us look animated XS look dynamic but it also goes back again to these survival instincts. You're showing the listeners. No tools no weapons That's true empty-handed that's true the reason that we wave. It's the reason that we shake hands. If speaker hides their of speaker holds their hands behind their back. Or if you're at a boardroom table and you're speaking in. Your hands are under the table even at a dining room table. I've heard you should actually have your hands politely on the table. I wouldn't that doesn't surprise me. Actually it looks shifty makes people feel. What are you hiding? Yeah makes them feel ill at ease exactly so you wanna be gestured but the again much like I was saying about the feet. The trouble is when the nervous energy gets into the hands and the gestures become repetitive. Or sort of nonsense of when the gestures are just sort of happened in. The speaker has no control over them so a technique that I advocate again. This is a pretty well known technique. And it's an old technique but the prism where you press your fingertips together. Hold your hands up in a prison out front of your body. It sounds ludicrous. And every time I talked to clients but this they're like what. Are you telling me to do that for what it does? Is it gives your hands a home base so often if your hands are just there and sort of you if they become disembodied and you think what do I do with these things. Whereas if they're they're in some kind of a home base and if you don't like the prism you can expand you're holding a volleyball. You know. The magic volleyball is with that technique is called. If you give your hands a home base. Then you don't have to worry about them. And you know that any gestures to be controlled and purposeful and precise and when you've made that specific gesture then you can return to your own. Bay. I love it. It sounds like yoga class right and go back to Home Bay. Yeah yeah tactic that technique of a home base does with your hands. It prevents your hands from having a mind of their own so in terms of the strengths. Piece of it. A big part of how you can project strength to your listeners is physical control so I am standing. In an energized can way with conviction I'm gesturing precisely? I'm expansively as yet. I'm expensive an when I moved so to answer your question about to stand behind the podium or not it always. I think looks more dynamic. If.
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"Being empathetic and getting into their circle but then also being in control of what's going on It is and I see that makes me think I want to see if I can answer that. Because it's a it's a real fine balance you know. It's it's a little bit like the the humor aspect to that you if something's funny to you trust that it's going to be funny to your listeners. If you've done that work in structured something that you think this is valuable message and these are ideas that I really wanNA share with them. Then trust that that's GonNa land with them. You know we're not usually that poor at our gauging of what people will won't find interesting. It's interesting to you. It's probably going to be interesting to somebody else. What and another thing that I can say about. Keeping your audience engaged the biggest thing but something that we should all remind ourselves as to be conversational when we're giving a presentation and what that really means is creating that two way dynamic where you're making the listeners. Feel like they're a part of what you're saying and the two big ways you can do that are pausing and I contact. You know I contact to show them your personality. Show them that you're connected to them but also show them that you're checking in with them that if you deliver an idea you're taking that pause to let them think about you care about their response. Yeah exactly exactly right. There's a there's a tactic in the book that I mentioned before compelling people where they say you know a smile when you smile at people. It encourages them to smile back. They Mirror yeah and nodding the same way so they say we're not going to this. We're both sitting here nodding violent but there's worse things than to have a room full of people smiling and nodding when you're up there delivering a presentation absolutely so if you can find that pausing that. I contact Mary that with a smile in your just really encouraging the listeners. To to be with you into debt you're creating two way dynamic just isn't that reminds me. I've heard this. I heard vice. Actually years ago decades ago find the person in the room that smiles and nods at you it may be a nervous tic but just appreciate them and look at them whenever you need them right. I was giving a workshop the other day and there was somebody in the in the workshop. Who you know this is so common has pretty debilitating fear of this stuff of speaking in front of people and she said every time I present I pick one or two allies in the room and I tell them before him. I'M GONNA be looking at you. The entire time. And then she will sometimes quite rough where they sit switches. Use It over here and use it over here. Smart she said to me. What do you think about that? And I sa- tickets. Great anything that helps. I mean that future version of yourself that has to stand up in front of people and give a presentation. That's the person who has the difficult job so anything. That makes that person's job easier go forward so you were talking about creating a feeling of almost having a conversation with the audience and doing that by posing and creating. I contact what about encouraging explicit interaction so encouraging questions and I'm assuming interaction is a good thing but why some presenters say. Please hold your questions to the and I always wonder about that. Yeah I I wonder about that too. Okay I mean I think it depends on the format. You know if you're giving a presentation. That is a little bit more formal. You're in front of a couple of hundred people. That's probably a presentation where you want to speak for your fifteen or twenty minutes and then field questions afterwards. Having said that I still don't think it's necessary to say. Hold your questions to end. It sounds so administrative almost monitoring audience right off the top. I see I think bothered me about it actually because I understand some context. You're right if you're in an auditorium if you're giving a lecture at a university and it is actually a lecture format and then there's a QNA people know that and if someone puts their hand you can say. I would love to answer your question but I've just got three more minutes and you'll be the first person right and then yet everybody knows you're paying attention to them and actually that's great. I mean I hadn't thought of doing that if somebody doesn't know which I'm with you. That's very rare. People usually get the gist of it. They go. This is not interactive but yeah exactly the same thing. Keep the control. You're up there you see it. Don't ignore that the person's hand has gone up but just politely say no. I think were wait regardless format. One way you can encourage. Interaction is by asking for it. It's so basic but I liked the tactic provided again that it works with your message and that doesn't feel forced but ask you ask your audience. Question asked him to picture something or imagine something Take a pole with a show of hands. That kind of thing that gets gets them engaged. Get them feeling like they're part of it while you're still keeping the control where you're not letting them talk about whatever they want to talk about. You just answered the next question that I was GonNa ask you. Which is what happens if you are encouraging people to ask questions and they don't and I think what I'm hearing is you could change it to be a more specific question like how many of you think whatever Moving get people raising their hands and yet yeah. I think I think that's great. I've full disclosure. I've never advocated that until just now but I think it is a great QNA strategy that maybe the speaker comes prepared with some questions you know. Obviously you want to feel the questions that are there. But if there aren't questions you can always ask questions that are variation on the theme. What did you take from that? You don't WanNa obviously say what'd you think of my presentation really what you're saying. Look this was the idea. How does that idea resonate with you or would you think about this statistic when I gave it or you can? You can kind of steer that interaction and there's also if you're talking about a q eight the end I mean you can. If nobody asks a question you can also just move on and say thanks very much. That's it. Yeah I I've seen that too and sometimes it's that's I think some speakers who ask if there's any questions in the answer is basically no there aren't and they can skillfully say well. I guess that went. Well then. They're just saying okay. Everyone got it. Great Yeah Yeah. That's a great tactic. Yeah it's excellent. If you can deliver tickling arrogant yeah yeah. So what are some of the most common mistakes that speakers make when they're on stage? I think again. I'm GonNa talk about pausing conversational styles always the first thing. I worked on with clients whether I'm doing private coaching group workshop. Because when we're up there it is so difficult to remember to pause are because the adrenaline coursing through us at the time perceptions off so we think we've paused but we haven't really paused if I were to name those two sins. It's running your thoughts together so where you don't give your listeners. Time to think about what you've said it's also talking while thank you know that you're just kind of on autopilot rambling too and that what that sets up to the listeners. They think what am I doing here. I don't need to be here. I could be reading something instead. Yeah why don't you just email do this on my own time? So that's a big San. I think there's in terms of how we're perceived it all comes back to our most primal survival instincts. We take the nonverbal data that we get from people and we use it to put them into one of four categories we see them as potential friend potential threat potential mate or were indifferent. Some of those have not heard that it's great love. These frameworks yet. So you take those and you say okay. Well there's only one category up in front of people that I want to get myself into and that's potential friend and even that can create a bit of a mindset shift for some speakers because we often put pressure on ourselves of impressive. I know you've got to be relatable yet. It'd be trustworthy. And there's two criteria that we evaluate people on to put them into those categories. The first one is strength and that probably doesn't come as a surprise to many people because if you say what do you think makes somebody a good public speaker. Nine Times out of ten the answer. You'll get immediately as confident and we're going to get into that so confidence. That's the strength piece confidence and capability the other criteria that we evaluate people on his warmth. And we actually again thinking about our primal survival instincts we evaluate and limp. I we put more emphasis on warmth for who is if you think about it. Somebody who is projecting a lot of strength and no warmth. That's a person that can actually quite dangerous that can represent a threat to us. So you WANNA think about projecting. Both strength and warp and the interesting thing is when you think about warmth. It conjures up kind of Mr Rogers type of image. You think you know gentle and soft kind and that's part of it but one is also energy warmth is passion more dedication weren't as commitment. It's anything that makes your listener. No I really care about what I'm saying. And that leads me in a very roundabout way to another big in that. I see a big mistake. That you see in presentations. People are afraid to reveal that connection to their material. They think that if they show any emotion at all. It's unprofessional really. Yeah and I think people want to just be factual and professional. And you don't again you don't WanNa be delivering the speech from the movie braveheart. But but you having embiid of I care about this and letting your listeners know that it means something to you I mean if you want to have your listeners being gauged the first step is you have to be engaged right so that has to do with your voice it has to do with your energy your focus all of that all of that. I think is based tremendously important. I really liked that framework. I feel like you've got the passion you've got the authenticity. You've got your cohesive message before you start actually writing it out you WanNa remind yourself you are the friend then. You are the friend because you have strength and you have warm yen words. I'M GONNA say. The strength is capability or knowledge or expertise right and then the warmth is the positive affect and speaking as a psychologist right. Yeah and you know if you think you're absolutely right if you think back to when we were cave people the warmth is I mean you no harm and the strength is I can be a benefit to you. Those people we want to welcome into our circle somebody who is high warmth and not a lot of strength. That's somebody you might think. Well they don't mean any threat but I'll be different to that person that I don't need them in my circle. There's actually it's pretty fascinating. There's corresponding emotions that they pinpoint this too. High Strength Low warmth that instills fear or envy and high flow strength instills. Pity the one that I found really surprising was low strength low warmth again that I would think that was pity but but in actual fact it's contempt. Those are people that we do flight. Yeah it's awful to think of you know you think no those poor people. Manono the physiological emotional response to the have is contempt disdain and people who are high strength High Warmth Bay project. They say admiration. I say trustworthiness because I think the key to being persuasive is winning your listeners. Trust so if you show them I mean you no harm and I can be a benefit to you. You've got to trust right away. Yeah like trustworthiness. Yeah that's good thank you. It's too bad. I can't hear what it's worth. He didn't go. So you said that nine out of ten people are really concerned about their confidence. And I have to tell you that. I've asked many of my friends and colleagues what to ask you about how to give a compelling presentation and one hundred percent of them. The first thing that they said was how to exude confidence so actually how to feel confident but then also how to demonstrate confidence Jimmy pointers for the listeners. On that I do ooh house. That cliff hanger just kidding but in the next episode as I said earlier we'll focus more on how to deliver your presentation with confidence. I WanNa thank Andrew Musselman's so very much for generously sharing his expertise and his advice with us. I loved his points about focusing on your main message about using videos and visuals about using humor and incorporating storytelling not.
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"Was running for county treasurer. I think and it's him delivering. He launched his campaign and he is so the nerves the passion the Adrenalin just completely consume him. So he's pacing around the stage waving his finger on pointing in his audience screaming and shouting because he's just he's trying to convey passion but it just completely overtakes him. Usually I do it as a fun. Introduction say prevent you from doing this yet it's this is a reminder that such as what you say it's how you say it. I love it so he talked about how incorporating the multimedia the video and audio how it needs to be organic and natural and I. I'm thinking of some presentations that I've witnessed where there's sometimes a comic or a cartoon on one of the first few slides and it's like check. They're trying to be funny or they'll try to tell a joke. Do you have any advice about incorporating humor and whether we should especially for not funny. Yeah comes up enacting all the time too because you go up for. He'll get an audition and the description. When you see this in the character description the you know the characters extremely funny. It's like a death knell. Greg how I always say. Stay in your lane remember. You're you're there to share information and share message with people you're not there simply to entertain them. I wouldn't advocate ever putting pressure on yourself that you have to be funny in a presentation. I think too that e trusting if there's something that you find funny if there's something that is humorous to you and again it doesn't have to be Chris. Rock funny where people are rolling around the house. If there's something if there's an An anecdote from your family or a pet or something like that and you find humorous. Chances are people are gonNA find it humorous as well. Well this is reminding me of what you said about authenticity. You're being authentic when you're sharing your funny story. If you find it funny yeah and I think is a bit of a cliche. But it's great icebreaker A great way to break down the barriers and instill some trust in your listeners. Because they see as you say they see a bit of an up a small piece of your authentic self you are so I would say incorporate the humor as long as you feel it naturally flows with your presentation and as long as you feel genuinely. Find it funny. Don't just do it for the sake of doing okay so this is a perfect segue to the storytelling thing nowadays. Especially I don't know what brought this on but storytelling his such a hot topic and I feel like every presenter is compelled to include at least one story into their presentation. Can you talk about whether it's necessary and if it is how to do it if you have a point that you're trying to make and you can illustrate that with his story then? I think go for it Go for at ten times out of ten. It's always going to be more effective telling a story rather than just giving information through. There's an old saying connect I then convince. And that's what stories do Dory's connect with listeners. On an emotional level I and when you have listeners when you've touched them emotionally when you've connected with them on that level then they are primed and ready to receive information and they're primed and ready to see the world way you want them to see it to see the world through your eyes. You've changed them a little bit. Yeah and there's all kinds of great data as to why how and why stories are effective. There's this fascinating research that's been done on its brain to brain coupling which they hooked a bunch of people up to FM RI machines. There was the person telling the story and then a bunch of people listening to the story and the first thing they found was that our brains are much more active when we're hearing the story as opposed to just receiving information when we're is receiving information the language processing part of the brain that lights up. But when we're hearing a story it's the language processing part it's also the emotional parades the sensory part. It's the motor skills part. It's the same brain activity as if we were experiencing an event but the really fascinating that they found in this exercise was they watched. The brain activity was in the person telling the story and they saw that simultaneously. The identical brain activity was happening in the listeners. So you're creating like a Vulcan mind meld with your listeners. Yep You are literally getting to see the world through your eyes in that in that moment. You're getting them to see the world in the same way. And then there's also a lot of data around stories produce oxytocin which is associated with empathy and and Cooperation that use the word connect before you're connecting with them. Yeah absolutely so. There's two straps one incorporate stories into your presentation but also when you're thinking of how to structure presentation at its core. A story is a hero in pursuit of a goal in the face of great challenges. That's it I mean. It's a formula that we've been using for thousand thousand years so we know it works and the reason it works. We'd like watching people or hearing about people who are striving for something who are trying to affect change trying to affect big change no survival or changing the way. The world works in a way. So what you're doing when you incorporate that element that that structure in your presentation you're giving your listeners. Something that they can root for. You know. You're not you're saying here's who we are. It's here's who we are. This is what we're really trying to do. This is the change. We're trying to effect or whatever the case may be and when you get to that level you give your listener somebody to root for or put another way you give them a reason to care right. I was I think rationally convinced the storytelling is the right thing to do. I am one hundred percent convinced now. We'll good good so so one of the reasons that we tell stories you said is to with them but also to engage them and if we move on now to the delivering the presentation one of the I suppose many things that people are afraid of when they're delivering especially a really big important presentation is that they're just going to lose the audience and you know that feeling that maybe most of us have had at some point in our careers when we're looking out at the audience and we see people picking up their phones and texting and we see maybe a few people in the back of the room start to wander off and maybe even chitchatting with each other. They're definitely not making eye contact with you anymore. What what what are some of the tactics that we can employ to try to maintain engagement of the audience assuming that we've already structured this presentation right? Well one of the things you can think of with your delivery is nuance so just varying. How were speaking? I'm a big heart on sleeve guy. It's I'm we the first thing we talked about in. This interview is Passion Passion Energy Conviction. But you can also think about having different levels. You don't want everything to be up here. Where you're you know frothing at the mouth. And where you you know. You don't want everything to be fire and brimstone you don't WanNa right because then that becomes the baseline. Yeah and and where to go from there exactly and anything that lacks nuance it. No matter how compelling it is at the outset it'll always lose. The the audiences focused stopped paying attention. If it's all the same thing so you can think of varying your style your tone your rhythm for no other reason than to just keep it interesting and their four P.'s. This comes from the the acting world. For ps that you can think when it comes to to Nuance. That's pitch pace posture. And projection. So pitch higher low speaking normal registering to however there is an interesting thing. Varying the pitch amazing. How many presentations in the professional world have that monotone delivery absolutely? Yeah mostly because we're programmed to think. I don't WanNa be rude. I don't WANNA intrude on anyone. So we think showing emotion is a little. Bit Taboo. We think it's unprofessional. Abdullah was going to say people think. It's unprofessional. Yeah so that's that's pitch paces faster slow. You could slow certain parts down. Take longer pauses when you want to emphasize points your posture. You can literally if you are a different section of your presentation. You can move to a different part of the stage or just very the way you're standing if you're standing still in one place and then projection is loud and soft. You know. Obviously you want to always be heard but sometimes if you want things to be really compelling you can quiet your voice down so nuances way to really get some of that audience engagement if things are going really dire if you're up there and feel you know that you're really losing them and you want to skip a section of skip ahead. I would caution people against that because you don't want to skip ahead in a way where you then lose where you are speech and you and you get completely lost in it but if you're going to do that if you're if you're feeling like they're really not with me here and to skip ahead uneasy shuts down basically. Yeah the one thing you should do before you move to. The next section is remind us of what the point was and remindful your messages. So you know for example. I mean The top level message. Yes so for example. You know if you were giving it a speech about the economy and we're talking it was say you're talking to a group of investors and you're talking to the current economic climate your main ideas. This is the time to shore up risk. Will you might have a whole lot of data. The backs them up and you may be feeling that that data is losing them. So you think okay. I'M GONNA skip the rest of the data points and move onto the next section. But before you do that you need to remind us that so again. Because of the current economic climate this is a time to shore up. Risk Really here's why I'm telling you all this and skip all this. Do you tell them what do you tell them that? Or does it depend? I always whenever you develop one of your main points. The last thing you should do remind us of the point tie it to your main message and then move on but do you tell them about the point that you're skipping. Do you say I'm GonNa go ahead now. No no well you know what I say no right away but just the way you said that. They're one of the best acting lessons I ever got was a teacher. Said you know all we want from you on. Stage is to know that you're in control We feel that we'll go anywhere with you so if somebody were to say you know what. I'M GONNA skip ahead if we don't feel like they're flustered if we don't feel that has crushed them on the inside a little bit. That's fine. I don't think you need to say it but if you do say it. Keep your confidence. Keep your dead spot and and just roll on it. Depends on your tone right. You're not in an angry way. You're just saying based on what I'm seeing here. We should move ahead not you people shaming them and actually that. That's a really good point that you make that that by doing that. You really doing showing empathy with your listeners that you really creating that connection of saying it's a bit sort of servant leadership. Hey I'm here for you. Yeah so if we're not liking this that's okay. Let's move let's move up. You reminded me of some board speeches that I've heard where the person who's giving the presentation is actually doing so just before a meal just before dinner or just before lunch mel say. I'm sure you've heard this. I know I'm the only thing that's standing between you and lunch so I'm GonNa make this snappy right and everyone's like thank you there's a book called compelling people and one of the things that the author saying that is they talk about getting into the circle is the first thing you need to do with. Your listeners is get inside their circle. Show them that you empathize with them. Show them that you understand their point of view whatever the case may be but their point is when you do that when you start with that little bit of a connection with them. Then they're Mutt. Del Trust you really is what you're you're you're earning their trust in your sort of basically saying. I got you. I've got you through this. Our interests are lying. That makes sense. The other thing I'll say is that you should trust yourself when it comes to. Am I losing the audiences focus attention a one of the things that nerves does to us? It affects our mindset and we our own harshest critics. So when we're up there are read on. That particular situation may not always be accurate You know I'm sure we've all had moments. I know I've had many moments where I think that was a disaster and then somebody comes up and tells you how great it was. I mean unfortunately there are times less common but times we think. Hey I was great. Somebody goes out not so much great but I think you know really trusting prepared is also something. I would advocate that that being there and saying. Hey somebody check their phone. Maybe it's not about me. Maybe they got a lot going on and they just really need to check their phone right now. Maybe the other ninety percent of the room is still really with me. So I'm GonNa Trust what I prepared and move through it. You don't WanNa be chew at the whim of the audience in that in that respect you want to be the one who's in so I think that's another piece of it is trusting which prepared and trusting that it's resonates a real fine.
Coach Eric Musselman on Kobe and Razorbacks
"We walk into your back. I really delighted to welcome in coach. Eric musclemen from the University of Arkansas. Huge win over the weekend and the big twelve challenge a lot of very impressive. Wins as Arkansas seemingly Back again rolling along some wins earlier over a VALPO Georgia Tech Indiana and a nice run. We we had a guest on few minutes ago covers Kentucky instead the atmosphere At Fayetteville last week when the cats were there was as crazy as any He has witnessed in a very long time coach. First of all. Thank you very much for being with us. And congratulations educations on all you've done. No it's not over but It's quite a start. Thanks so much for having me on Paul really appreciate it before I talk about the razorbacks Certainly grew up the the son of an NBA. Coach you've Treistman head coach in the NBA and an assistant Elsewhere I just the whole world is you know is is mourning the death of Kobe. Brian and we were all interested in your thoughts on spectacular. Life had you know the I was fortunate to work for the Los Angeles Lakers and I was the head coach for their d league team. One Night I came out of the practice facility. We had played a game or games. Were we're actually in the Lakers practice facility. There was only one car in the parking lot. It was Kobe. Bryant's I went to my car. He rolled down his window. Said coaches or anyone else in the building. It was about eleven o'clock at night ten thirty at night. Whatever I said no just the security guards in there and he goes okay? I said Kobe what you could've come in there. You know I was the only we went in there for the last forty five minutes the last hour and he said No. I didn't want anybody in the building when I go in there to shoot in. His focus was incredible. His disciplined as a player was was incredible and just think about the competitive nature of him and just such a sad sad day for the entire basketball community yesterday. Eh and coach. You've lived that life And understand it but You know for such a big league. it just seemed like such such a small family Yesterday when this news broke will it really is. I mean when you think about the impact because when you're either playing in the League or coaching in the League or referee Rian in the League. You have so many stories. I mean there was one night where we had a defensive game. Plan the first quarter we were going to force koby has left the second quarter. We're going to force him to his right right and then he came up right before the third quarter is going to start and he said hey coach what are you gonNa do now play me straight up and then there was. There was a little bit of a pause and he goes. That ain't GonNa work either. Good luck with that. So you know He. He had a personality and just to see since he's retired the relationship that he had with his family. Okay and how much a part of his daughter's life was really really cool but a tragic tragic day for for for the basketball world and certainly for all for all the people that were on that helicopter. Certainly appreciate your thoughts on that. I do want to concentrate on the razorbacks because Your fan base. So we could see it Saturday And we've seen it all year are really excited Just overall thoughts on. I know it wasn't going to be easy and it's not over yet. I don't I know there's a coach. The season has a long way to go but just talk about the journey so far. Yeah we had a great non conference in it and it was kind of like you know the crowds kept building and building. We you know we lost one game in our in our non conference slate had three True Road Games and then once we got to. SEC play the the momentum and the crowds were sold out every weekend the Kentucky atmosphere. I've I've been a part of basketball for really long time. Having been a partner party with with my father. When he coached at the University of Minnesota and they had sellouts there in nineteen thousand seat Arena Williams arena? But I don't know if I've ever seen a crowd with so so much energy and enthusiasm as what we saw when we played Kentucky here and We had a great crowd for our Tcu game as as well and You know the momentum is just continues to Kinda grow and it's been really really need to be a small part of of our fans enthusiasm and at this point Records or maybe a little bit. Deceiving your record is pretty pretty good but there is such a gauntlet Head How do you feel the razorbacks? Our position for the month of February and obviously march will really Paul like I mentioned we. We did our job and non conference and now we're in conference play and it's the same everywhere whether it's big ten. SEC ACC every conference game is really really hard. And there's so many games that come down to the last two minutes and really it's going to be you know. How can we close games? Can we keep road games. Close and give ourselves a chance chance we have a major deficiency on the on the rebounding part of the game and and and we continue to try to figure out a way to overcome that whether it's with three points shooting pace of play right now. We lead the country in defending the three ball. And we have to do that. Because of how small we we are on the interior interior but We feel good where we are right now but we know that there's so much basketball to be played and really you can throw out what's happened right now because because there is still a large portion of of conference play still to be determined as a coach everyone has different methodology in terms of looking at the season whether it's the first part of the non conference and then obviously breaking up what you have to deal with in in the arduous road of the SEC. H- How do you game plan in it back in the off season as you look at the schedule and and what's it like once it gets going. We'll really Paul but we do as soon as the schedule comes out is is I huddle up with a a couple of our staff members that have been with the Nevada. We go game by game win. Loss win-loss just kind of try to figure out what that number would look like for us us at the end of the year right now. We're plus one on what we had done earlier. We don't we don't share that with anybody but but we you know the the goal of everybody not really before you even step on the floor for non conference is how do you get into the big dance. And how are you part of March madness and there's so much to to be played Still and so much to be determined But again it all comes down. I think in conference play. How can you win win the close games because almost every night? You're you know it comes down to those last three or four minutes of a game. It seems like just as a casual fan. I'm watching all the Games on Saturday. And I'm like going consultee. Make a free throw. I know coaches wonder about wonder the same thing don't they there's no question free throw becomes number one free throw attempts become a big part for each team but then converting free throws become a huge part especially in close close games and we've actually improved as a free throw shooting team although we dipped a little bit sense conference play a started. But there's no question all the little things limiting your turnovers in conference play converting so you're free throws not having live ball turnovers. All those things become really really important. PEDESTRIAN QUESTION ABOUT FREE THROWS I. I know it's easy for me to just sit at home with popcorn In in my feet up saying how come how come. They can't make free throws they've been doing this their whole life but explained to the audience. It is why it's not so easy under the under the gun. Well I think one pressure you know anytime you step up to the line. Depending on the time the score of the game fatigue fatigue could play a factor if a guy's played thirteen or fourteen straight minutes and then he goes to the foul line that can that can have a little bit of impact on it whether there's a dead ball prior to you stepping up to the foul line just as you hear a field goal kicker. Mike get iced as a free. Throw shooter get ICED But a lot of it comes down to mental toughness. I believe from the foul line. And then obviously some guys are just better better foul shooters based on rotation and and then it really becomes important that you have a routine every time you step up to the foul line as well coach. I I know that you you knew what you were getting into. And for someone who has coached coach in the NBA. And obviously you're run a couple of years ago and the NCAA. Tournament was epic I I don't need to ask you. How tough the SEC Zia's but we're we're we're you surprised by anything you've seen so far as league play has Got Underway I. I don't think so Paul I mean I knew. Do you know I came back from the from the League meetings in Florida and my wife said how did it go and I said well I looked around the table and I'm gonNA write. This coach has been to a final. Oh for this guy's been to X. Amount NCAA tournaments and then. I said you know somebody in this room is gonNA finish last place. And there's a lot of great coaches in in this league. There's a lot of talented players. You know I kind of knew what I was getting into. I mean spent one years and assistant coach at at Lsu. But I'm I'm such a well coached league and a team that's or league that's full of athletic players that play with with great intensity and that's the one thing. Is You know every night that you play you get somebody going hard. And and there's no gimmes and and that's to be expected at a power five conference and especially at conference like the SEC. Finally I I know what you said about looking at the at the schedule and we won't push you anymore on on what you what you saw the razorbacks finishing but how do you define success in year one You know I think as a competitor anywhere you're at whether you're in the mountain west or you're in the SEC. Want to try to make tournament. And if you don't have that as a goal you know. You probably shouldn't be coaching having said that you know we are realistic that we were predicted. preseason to finish eleventh. We didn't have much respect coming into the season and and there's still a lot of basketball to be played. I mean there's a lot of teams with that three in three record and so every game's important and the one thing that we've done a really good job of Paul just kind of taking one game at a time. I know that's coach. Speak but we really maybe more than than than the four previous years. Since I've been coaching we really have just said. Hey let us worry about the next forty forty minutes on our schedule because this roster does have deficiencies especially from a height standpoint and we dealt with a little bit of small injuries of late as well also. We just need to worry about. How can we play and compete against South Carolina on Wednesday night? Great to have you on. And congratulations on the success. Success Hope soon. Thanks for having me
"musselman" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"How are you with all that the middle of able to know it's so interesting because Really before I got to Nevada I think everybody associated you know my personality and coaching style with my dad. Old School really disciplined And I think you know to me. The coolest thing about coaching in college is having a partnership with other coaches on campus. It's about being around the student body And so it kind of just changed my way of thinking To have have a little bit more fun and enjoy it. Maybe that comes with age too where you know you just feel more comfortable you know in who you are and But yeah the the locker room stuff. I do think there's a fine line too. Because like for us we liked to have of our social media people around because of recruiting and I think really. That's what's changed. The game is is is this recruiting aspect. And how do you let recruits in their parents. look behind the curtain and see what's going on and that's been the biggest factor in why we kinda open things up and and also why you've got to have a little bit more fun. I just think that that's kind of the nature of of of our society. Right now. I remember I was one of the first. NBA Coaches To let the microphone and TV and and at halftime. I'll never forget that first. NBA Coaches meeting that we had after the season and the looks and the tone of some of the premier NBA coaches. And how mad they were that. We opened up half time to allow a camera to come in during the national TV NBA game. Aim and But Society has changed so much with with with the social media. Stuff that you've got to adapt and accept it and and actually embrace it my mind yeah because was NBA and college half times man. I mean there's some state secrets being set there. There's some stuff that you're you can't let get handed ended Iranians or the Iraqis because that stuff's important stuff man. But here's the thing. My my question is what. What in the world were you thinking when you took the shirt off and they want you you you try to help you say? Try to help her hurting code the truth of what happened. It was the first year and Nevada. We one thousand. Maybe I championship and I was going to put the championship assured on and the guys grabbed me and I had half assured on and so that started it And then it just kinda became a thing with with our team and and and the Vada it only happened really. NCAA tournament berths or or or tournament wins and Certainly as I've gotten the older I either have to increase by cardiovascular work or I have to keep assured on at all times.
"musselman" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"The world's greatest podcast known ass courtside with Greenberg and and and We're GONNA have incredible incredible conversation with Danielle and Eric. Muscleman the first family of Arkansas basketball but first these squirt work. I've got a question for you. Baylor goes into fog Allen and wins West. Virginia looks like the the real deal. Duke might be playing better than anyone in the country. Gonzaga might not lose the rest of the season Santaigo State Auburn or on the CD. Let's start with valor. What's your take? On the Baylor. Bears well unite talked off air couple of days ago. Go and you made the point that they're getting production from guys that hadn't been productive at other places. And and I was thinking about that Seth and when you think about about Baylor and you mentioned this man. Is this true you think about kind of what. What John P line did it Michigan you think about player evaluation? Oh you Asian then player evaluation. How they fit into your team? How good are they really when given certain opportunities because I look Scott? Drew has done the most under appreciated job. Maybe in the history of college basketball taken that program from like half a year with the murder going all the way back to where it is. I you make the arguments number one team in the country and it's not necessary. It's not like doing it at Kentucky. Indiana's been floundering. Indiana has never gotten as a blue blood to wear baylor is or maybe one year they did in the last twenty twenty five years But your point about player. Evaluation is so good Because they've gotten players that I you know I mean they're not five star rated players couple played at other places and we're necessarily early overly productive and and now man do they fit so evaluation and fit was always be lines thing. And that's what I that's a first thing. I see seth it really is the those two things are maybe better than anybody in the country right now it has been Baylor at putting together. A squad had more non top one hundred recruits that have played in the NBA embiid. which is which is an amazing deal to me? You know the whole idea of you know they were a one one three zone. Defensive Team Tristen Clark went down last last year. They had to go to three guards. Freddie Gillespie got it was playing division three Bass playing division three basketball's become one of the most ferocious Rochas reckless rebounders in college basketball. Dave Mitchell transfers. He's explosively can defend our they move jared Butler into into the starting lineup on a piece ben is good as anyone they transfer like macy's not from UNC Ashville who's made that transition what they've been able to do but here's the two things they have guys that brace roles like mark vital. I mean that guy. Just he does what he does well and then the other thing is you know what is tough is to meet tough. This is doing the hard things everyday they defend in rebound every day. Those are the two hardest things to do basketball. Because you gotta play really hard to defend and you've got to be competitive as all. Oh hell rebound basketball and their relentless defensively Clayton Mana zone and they are they rebound like this a steak on Aram and you know what they haven't eaten in a week I mean that's how fearless they are rebounding the ball they are really the pieces fit. Everyone does what they do everyone. We'll place to their strengths and that's coaching. Yeah and that's administrating too. I mean that's that's you know. The Indiana Pacers have played pretty well over the last last year and a half without Victor Oladipo and the reason is Kevin Pritchard. The general manager had a team that fit fit. Each Other. Didn't have egos on top of each other and I really started paying attention that in the college game. And I'm not so sure Baylor isn't the preeminent team and I'm not just talking about this year seth I mean what was it like two thousand nine or ten where they're going during the elite eight. This has been going on for a little bit. I think because they one for the first time in a thousand years at Kansas and now they're number two and we're paying a little more attention to it but this has been going on for quite some time down in Waco was Scott drew. I it really has he. He's I think master at At Pudding let's first finding evaluating and then putting it together for his particular style and look at. The road isn't easy I mean. So you know they. They got a couple of road games. That are going to give chances. But but I tell you this seth by already going to Kansas and win in biology going to Texas tech and winning opens things up a little bit foia. League moving forward does gold standard in that league. Fourteen years years before last year was obviously Kansas Phil South. They were at the top of the mountain by themselves last year. Texas tech heads of state got a piece of it. The one thing you would love to see. What do you think about Baylor is like Kansas has the best home courtney Lee without damage there probably Texas Tech West Virginia right behind? I'm not sure Baylor's the top five of best home courts. No they're going to have to haul they're going to have to hold. Serve that you know games have to be events at Baylor that unfortunately for some mm-hmm reason they're not yet and they are really really really good so all right so a bail is really good. We think that maybe they're the best. Where's Duke in your mind? Fine because you know what to me excluding hiccup against Stephen F. Wouldn't we talk about duping. The basically the team were all looking for in college basketball. This year said the difference between Duke being undefeated this time of year and San Diego State and Auburn Auburn. Being undefeated at this time of year in college basketball is a mess. I mean you know I guess it is disrespect to Auburn and and San Diego State but the history history the lineage of basketball at Duke. Certainly over the last forty years makes a national brand there one game away. And it's a hiccup at home. I'm okay fine. I tweeted the other day. Isn't it time we start considering Duke. A great team look we all we all want to say. No teams great not teams game. Well I don't know I. I watched Duke. They went down to Miami. It was what a week ago or two weeks ago. It was a night game. Was You know Miami was all excited and they won by thirty five and I watch Miami Team Have Illinois down by thirty about three weeks earlier so I you know we get. I guess the narrative is there not a great team. Okay but all I know is this. We've got some undefeated and we've got a team. That's one bad hiccup in a game. That if they they played one hundred times it went ninety. Nine point five of them against Stephen F. Austin One away and I don't see that train stopping anymore because I'm not so sure about your. ACC See south. Australian biking anybody's GonNa handle maybe to say it's a three or four bid league at best state I think has has legitimately pitifully the best shower. I love Florida State. I'm big on them. I think the interesting thing about Duke is by maybe by accident because of the market goes down they become more interesting because during gold wire and trae Jones are two incredible on ball. Defenders and gold wire was is a throw in recruit two years ago is junior now They're more experienced but he can really guard and he another guy that plays to his transits tough which enables cash Stanley lead to get out and passing lanes which enables to hide matthew hurt a little bit defensively and now you've got another point guard who can pass it which makes Vernon carry all that much more effective and then they're getting time Jack White coming off the bench like you know he can kind of fit a lot of different roles to Glory he can fit a lot of different roles even mouse O'CONNELL in my man Joel Baker. They can fit a lot of roles so they're deeper than they've been in the past and there are more versatile than they've been in the past so I mean like Duke is is really special. There's no doubt about it Ducasse. Let's go some guys that that people don't give enough attention. I'M GONNA throw Senegal's state out with a little curveball and I'll tell you what I watch him I look at them differ real they shoot. I mean they shoot it. They defend they rebounded. They've got experience three transfers. They're older. They're tougher they share the ball got legitimate depth. But I mean you know Malachai fled Fagan's Yanni wet zillow's three guys have been around the block. They they put a lot of basketball. Mitchell kid is stepping in now. Because they've had some injuries I mean they've got everything you're looking for and quote quote unquote all the analytics and terms of that. Rebounding percentage of defensive percentage they run three. They don't turn it over. They turn you over. They make shots. They're really good. They're really ask you. This question was posed to me by the Great Andrew. Dockage ready we had. I figured we'd have some cited. Did you always talk about you know. Ucla Indiana the great programs. All right he goes eight. Now let me ask you a question to two schools. He used. I'm just GONNA keep it to San Diego state the other ones Butler relative to Indiana. But this question was okay. UCLA's history plays a big illegal is on TV. Wise San Diego statement better over the last ten fifteen years and UCLA. What's the answer to that? I'm not sure the habit it over less than fifteen years I think they have been more consistent like they had that one run. I didn't go back and look look at the numbers I'm not. I'm not sure because I mean like you know. Alfred went to swim. sixteenths Ben Howland went to three final fours. I mean they've they've had had some some some lean years. But what San Diego State it's done is what we talked about. Baylor doing evaluating up like a big part of recruiting to me. It's the most underappreciated shaded part of recruiting. It's evaluating up. Not where a guy is right now. Where a guy's going waters intangibles? What is the skill level is as high school power? Our forward that could be a small forward is high school small forward. That could be a big point. Guard is seeing where a guy fits in your system. I say the the best assistant coaches know who can play for their age. The best assistant coaches look. I don't see where he is. But we're going and I think that's a big thing they've done a great job Bob with that they've also been good job of recruiting geographic footprint. Keeping guys in San Diego which I think is really important and they created a a great fit like basketball's more important this sounds crazy basketball's more important on San Diego. State's campus and games are bigger leaguer event on San Diego State's campus. Then they are Pauley pavilion at. Why has that one? Why well every night every night to sell out I mean it's want I know that but he but here's my question like the question was a little bit deeper now? Why has that evolved is it because Ucla fans always spoiled they are in different places like Indianapolis they talk about Spoil Jar having manning and then luck is a quarterback and all that kind of stuff you think it's because Ucla fans have a Malays Tomb and San Diego State? Success is newer. So it's fresher issue so we like it more. Yeah I think so and I think that at UCLA. The bar so high and unrealistic. Think John Wooden is not walking through there. They only hang national championship banners. Don't even talk about and see double as final fours or sweet sixteen which is unrealistic in in in the world of college basketball? I mean do. Luke hangs final four batters Kentucky eggs or banners. Ucla only hangs national championship banners. Come on Gimme a break. If you can't celebrate a final four. There's something wrong does something wrong. You can't it's not the competence of final fours. Yes okay who else. Who else who else? Who else from that conference has gotten to the final four? That's it's good question Arizona. Has It right back in the day. They were National Championship. They have but I mean recently. I mean it's let me we ask you this. I mean like the big ten been great but I make Michigan State's National Championships. They hang their final four banners. I I go into You know it's it's a dump thing for them to do. Let's be honest. It's a dumb. It's Eric earned. Yeah made it to the final four. Because they didn't win a championship. They can't bring their kids into Pauley. Pavilion look up in rows and celebrate that with their kids. Come on give me a break. Give me it's it's. It's an unrealistic expectation. Let's let's go another one. You Buying West Virginia. I'm buying West. Yes Sir yeah. What look they may get beat by a team thrown in threes? But they ain't GonNa get beat by toughness then going beat by playing hard. They're not going to get beat by getting into stance playing defense sharing the basketball. Yes yes and more. Yes on West Virginia. I think you said it couple podcasts ago. Press Virginia's a thing in the past I see Bob Huggins I. I don't think of Press Virginia. I think what's happening right now. I look every team goes goes through things every team but if you if your team is consistent with.
"musselman" Discussed on WTVN
"Only and Bennett Musselman are both Agra business bankers with Hartland bank the ag banking industry has been a tough one to navigate with a now seven year down economy but Hartland has seen growth in both clients and employees in that time frame so I asked Joel Y. Hartland bank has taken on more business in a down economy and how it's worked out I guess the why behind it is that Hartland bank was started by farmers back in nineteen eleven in a little town called no high we have our our value proposition that is the most valuable hold it is the people that we've been able to bring along to our team and the way they work with farmers with their AG experience in banking experience to help our farmers navigate these times part of it starts with man it has to be a trusted partner and he has to know agriculture and he has to know banking and through that we gain that trust that former to where they reveal their financials to listen from that then we can help guide them not only with new business in new loans but Justin decisions day to day and their operations you mentioned that then it was a far reform just south of Columbus and and you know as a former data is one of the most important things you have on the farm and you kinda want to keep that close to the vest because that's your kind of what makes or breaks you year in and year out so when a banker comes two year or you as a bank or go to a farmer and and you say you know you you should show me what you got open up your book set that's kind of that's going to be a hard conversation to start but a necessary one it is in in you know when we go out the forms our our initial visit is to really understand about the people behind far you know who we don't win the the numbers we lend to people and so once we understand their operation how they take what makes them become profitable it is much easier to have that financial conversation while we sit down and look at the numbers in the books we have seen a downturn in the economy since two thousand twelve I mean you think about that you know we had those days of eight dollar corn and and fourteen fifteen dollar means what work were those the days right yeah probably pretty easy to be a banker back then because you knew the money was coming year in year out here we are commodity prices are are half of what they were.
"musselman" Discussed on Mark Bell's Power Project
"Gets used to your metabolism starts going crazy without amount of food got any poop stories for us oh man here's a good one this actually it doesn't have to do with the amount of food but at one point back in the day i had a neopolitan mastiff his name was flex news at twenty two hundred pound doggies asleep on my bed with his head on my chest and i had gotten a bottle of this carnivore blue raspberry beef protein gone and i it did not sit well with me i remember i drank a big shake before bed and then i went to the bathroom and my shit was bright blue just like the blue raspberry shake i mean literally it's like i didn't even digested it right through i i've had protein powder like that before did the same thing to me oh my god it was terrible and i guess i went to the bathroom didn't flush the toilet whatever i go back lay down in bed and i wake up in the morning and my dog's head is on my chest with blue shit all neopolitan massive you know was all over oh my god it was the most disgusting the world i have not ever touch that protein again the dog away to know he was i love that dog so much i kept him but i was pissed surely closed the toilet bowl for the rest of my life oh my god scarred me for life sorry musselman's what do you got coming up next you got the show and you said it's at the towards the end of this month yeah towards the end of this month is that and that's where my i mean i don't really think past that right obviously a lot depends as far as competition for the rest of the year a lot depends on this one you know i i really we'll see what happens i just i say this all the time i don't even really have a plan necessarily obviously i have a goal i want i was tell people i want that olympia sweatsuit the trophy sure that'd be great and everything but i want to be one of those twenty guys the gets that sweatsuit every year that gets to sit there and be part of the paramount of their professional environment yeah awesome that's that's my main goal is to do that but the beauty for me is an every day i learn more and see more at the beauty is literally in.