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Niner Faithful Radio 49ers giants review

Niner Faithful Radio

06:44 min | 4 months ago

Niner Faithful Radio 49ers giants review

"West of y'all should join our faithful. How's everybody doing? Hope everyone is having a legendary week? We have it. We have a home Victory to Victory Tuesday. Okay. Now it's official twenty four hour rule in effect. We're no longer celebrating that win. But we're going to go ahead and break it down real quick as we all know the Niners for the first time in NFL history beat the Giants 36 to 9. That is the first thirty six to nine score in the 101 years of the NFL. That's crazy to think about that. That's a lot of football games and they've never had a square that was 36 to 9. I wonder like I'm kind of curious about like how do you get that type of job? Like how do you look up something like that? That's kind of like that's crazy. That's a lot of work cuz I know for this date nine of History Month going through since 1946 going through games is a lot of hard work. So yeah. Anyway, also I want to say for the first time since nineteen ninety three month December 19th to be exact the Niners did not put in a game. That was a 55 17 win over the lions in Detroit crazy to say Eric Davis on the believe in 49ers podcast talked about it. He had the wrong game. He's a buffalo Detroit though, but he talked about playing in that game and everything. So that's that's a little cool little segment. If you want to go listen to there podcast is actually really great cuz a lot of great perspective for somebody, who as he puts it put on the colors birth. And you know loved being in the colors. He said he wanted to finish his career as a Niner and you know, I always love a player's perspective because you can't argue against the man who did it and did it at a high level and won a championship, so Another little interesting tidbit from the game is we went on a 15-yard drive 15-yard 15 play drive with no third downs and this is the even craziest part of 102 yards because we had a ten-yard penalty that pushed us back but we went a hundred and two yards on that field goal. It was Jeff Wilson rushing touchdown. It was either the ending in that but that's kind of crazy to to think about that. So we're going to keep this video short and sweet this week. But real quick bath korne Envy offensive MVP of the week. We're going to go ahead and give it to Nick Mullens Nick the Raider killer Mullins. We love you baby song interesting. Tidbit about Nick Mullens. He becomes the first nine of quarterback since Joe Montana to throw for 220 220 yards dead. And nine straight games. So obviously that's not nice trick games. It's nice straight starts with Nick Mullens. But still that is an impressive. There's no quarterback controversy. Jimmy Garoppolo is the starting quarterback of this team at least for the starting the this season, I believe Jimmy's the guy of course anybody who watches the show knows, you know, Jimmy's our King Wok it with us are six ring and all that day. Even as haters will sing. Jimmy is King but you know, it's is may not occur quarterback controversy, but Nick Mullens is exactly what you want and a quarter back and look, I'm comparing this but you know a backup quarterbacks are important rules in our history. We obviously know what happened with cap. And he was are back up and let us know the Super Bowl. I'm not saying that going down the same thing, but you know, and let's not forget that at what one point in time. I don't know there was this this crazy left-handed quarterback number eight, you know, it was Joe Montana a backup for a while, but I think he ended up having a pretty good career. And so you want a Super Bowl in his was the first left-handed quarterback in the Hall of Fame. So, you know having a backup is an important job and a fell and it is important like imagine if we had CJ beathard back there. You know, I mean CJ is only when was against the Giants but still with Nick moans are very happy as their backup quarterback, but it's very clear that yeah Jim is the guy so we're going to go ahead and go to home. New award I'm announcing it this week. We got the Bam Bam Fred Warner defensive MVP of the week. I'm going to go ahead and give it to the Man himself off in honor of the first naming of it and say bam bam Fred Warner. I'm trying to remain calm and not get all hyphy and everything like that. But Fred Warner is the best linebacker in the league ladies and gents and and I think it's very appropriate that he was the one that broke down the team huddle before they went in the locker room to get ready for the game after warm-ups. I think it's very important that you know, he looked at Nick and Jake's I got your back, you know protect the ball and we're going to get it back for you that that was it's a very important our middle linebacker the one who calls the defense. And the the captain of our defenses the general of our defense and he was sitting there saying hey, this defense is my defense. I'm a general of this defense and I'm a lead my troops were Victory. Let's get it. Crackin Nick. I got your back. Let's go. Hey, I was fed water basically set the tone saying you know what we're here to mess around and we going to get this dub and let's go out and dominate like good team Should Crash Course. The Giants are hard garbage as Eric Davis put it. Yeah, but you know what? That's why we went out whoop their ass cuz we're a great football team and that's what great football teams. Do they go out and they whoop their ass of inferior opponent. The Giants don't even deserve to be on the same field as us. You know what we went out there and we proved it on the field. I am so proud of us. I'm going to go ahead and go before I get a little too high fee and start running through a brick wall off and man. Could you imagine watching the game with me? This is only Tuesday. I just see y'all next week till then Faith love and happiness. gunners

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Niner Faithful Radio 9/26/2020

Niner Faithful Radio

03:15 min | 4 months ago

Niner Faithful Radio 9/26/2020

"Off. Good morning Forty Niner Empire. My name is Jamie today September 26th. 2020. Let's get into some 49er news. Here is a final entry update from college G Han. All right guys injuries Coleman out before doubt Garoppolo Al Green Al queda El Al Weatherspoon questionable Jenna and also said that Nick Mullens will get the start against the Giants here is what Shanahan had to say about Nick Mullens at QB specifically, I guess in terms of his arm strength. I was a stronger. I mean, I think Nick works at it all the time. I mean, you know, you're the more you work at it the more your feet are under you. I mean, it's not all just about the arm It's You Know It's the Rhythm with Thursday. And your drops your drop back the Rhythm with where you're going when you're eligible seeing things and then when you can have your feet under you and your cleats in the ground and you let them go on time, you're going to get the most out of your arm. So the more he is deciding the more he knows exactly where he's going. The more gets out of his arm. So he's gotten a lot more reps than he did last time. I mean not live reps, but he played pretty well the last time he played and he usually gets most of his reps in Camp took the tone on Scout team that is really good from this week to get three days in a row with the ones and which ready to go. Also Shanahan also discusses the church situation at MetLife Stadium. Hi Liz came back on this field where there's so many injuries. Is that a mental hurdle that you need to discuss with your team know I would have said yes on Monday maybe on Tuesday by the time Wednesday came, I think we're dead. I think everyone's a little emotional and stuff after those games, you know kind of set it cuz I've heard so much about it this week and I was a big deal to us Sunday and Monday, but you know, I mean church not good in general. I don't care where it is dead. One knows that Turf there's about thirty percent more injuries on Turf than there is on grass. So that's an issue everywhere you go. We understand. It's new Turf. So usually brand new Turf is a little bit worse and all the other bad terms so long and it just needs to get broken in so our players understand that then if else done everything to check it out and it is what it is. I mean, it's just another turf field and of course we'd rather play on grass cuz it is safer, but that's not something that's on our minds at all anymore. We're a little emotional after the game on it. But I promise it's gone and we are ready to go and the good thing about that surf is will be a lot faster on and that is it for a 1500 news the 49ers face off against the New York Giants this Sunday without a majority of their starters. I still believe in this team in believe they would win also do not forget to check out nine or faithful radio shop get your revenge tour merch we have shorts and long sleeves beanie snapbacks in hoodies. So go to ww.w radio.com forward slash shop to get your gear now. guys, and as always remain faithful to be

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Good Morning Niner Empire 10/10/2020

Niner Faithful Radio

05:52 min | 3 months ago

Good Morning Niner Empire 10/10/2020

"Hey everyone, this is Jamie from Good Morning Niner Empire from 9 or 5th or radio.com. Let me tell you about graphic Munger. They're keeping your business are going extinct. Take a turn your ideas to agree with their graphic design team there your source for custom logo designs apparel decals and more. Don't wait any longer and call graphic Monger at 360-460-8526 regarding Facebook and look them up at at graphic monger. And if you mentioned our net sales for radio, you'll get a discount. So please go check them out. All right, let's get back to the office. Good morning for dinner Empire. My name is Jamie. Today is October 10th. 2020. Let's get into some 49er news. Stranahan gives an injury update our our guys injuries for this week. Siggy's out Dante Johnson out Mosley is out. Most hurt his questionable Deebo Samuel is questionable K1 Williams is out and Witherspoon's questionable. Go ahead said he had named his daughter quarterback for the week Kyle. How did you make it through the week? I assume he's you're starting quarterback on Sunday. Yeah. He did a good job. I mean, he stayed got better never felt too sore the next day so we needed here that today and see him out there today and we feel good to go off and we start and saw Shanahan gives an empty under he mustered. I'm in terms of regime. How did he look at practice? And what's going to go into that decision on Sunday? I'm really just always feeling then. I mean he got a little bit more work today. Um, you know, he's able to get through it. We didn't put him through everything but really want to see how that response tomorrow how he wakes up tomorrow and how Shanahan also updates us on D, but illness and covered protocols off the Debo doing DeVos good. I mean just I mean he was on zoom in our meetings today. So says he has no symptoms feeling great. So he's got one more test to pass. I think it today will get the results tomorrow and that and then you should be allowed back in our building. So, just to clarify are the protocols different a lot different this year than they normally are for illnesses in this obviously isn't covered related because he'd be on that list, but you guys have to go through more kind of screening just to clear it somebody who's feeling he'll and yeah, definitely that's I mean that's going to most likely be the same issues with my biggest worries. You know Depot just he had he was sick. So I think you know just a little achy. I think it might had a fever at night, you know, especially with flu season coming up that's going to be common. But if you have systems, I mean you're automatically out of the building I think for at least two days cuz you need to pass two tests confirm. It's not covered in anyone who's been around. You also needs to be out for those two days so long that's going to be the case with that stuff. So I remember there was about twelve of us who were sick last year first Minnesota and that game so we have to deal with that stuff as it goes. So hopefully we'll get off. What it should him also name's a new backup quarterback and talks about how Nick Mullens ticket. Do you have a new number two quarterback? Yeah this week CJ woke up seven two sided with all the situations where we addressed two or three most likely will go to and I'll go see Jay this week. What was that a tough job bit of news to deliver them to to Nick. I mean just a week ago. He was the starting quarterback. Yeah, it's always tough to deliver to any of those guys. But but I do walk. I think Nick understands the situation understands the business. I mean, it's it sounds Dreadful and the end of the world to probably to a normal person and anyone who cares about Nick but I put in perspective with Nick. I mean he didn't have his best game. CJ's been there before Jimmy's been there before Nick just had a rough game and I think he'd played better than it looked. It's never as bad as it seems dead. Um, but that's kind of a life of a backup, you know, CJ. I thought that some real good things for us playthrough a number of games injured couldn't go one night versus Oakland and it came in and seize this opportunity and she hasn't gotten the chance since then because of that. It's kind of regardless of what goes on in practice when you're real when two guys are capable and they both are pretty close in different ways. It's kind of tough to earn that spot in practice and really tough. If you don't have a preseason games and rarely get in like they did last year. They never really got it. And so Nick understands CJ has been through that since that Oakland game and CJ came in and played well, and I know Nick's happy for CJ cuz they're closed and respect each other and it's not going to make too big a deal of it. But next time you ever get this opportunity. He'll be ready and that is it for your 49er news. Please check out our main shown know. It's a video on YouTube and wherever you listen to your podcast also check out Niner faithful radio.com. Riley Revenge to our marriage. We just release new merch as well. So just go check it out. Thanks as always for birth. fearful

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Good Morning Niner Empire 10/03/2020

Niner Faithful Radio

05:06 min | 4 months ago

Good Morning Niner Empire 10/03/2020

"Hey everyone, this is Jamie from Good Morning Niner Empire from 9 or 5th or radio.com. Let me tell you about graphic Munger. They're keeping your business of going extinct. They could turn your ideas into wrong with their graphic design team there your source for custom logo designs apparel decals and more don't wait any longer and called graphic Monger at 360-460-8526 regarding Facebook and look them up at at graphic monger. And if you mentioned on a sales or radio, you'll get a discount. So please go check them out. All right, let's get back to the show off. Thursday good morning manner Empire. My name is Jimmy. Today is October 3rd. 2020. Let's get into some 49er news. Here is a loss Andrew update of Kyle Shanahan injuries for this week D for doubt. Jimmy's out Garoppolo green light out. Mosley's out. Most road is out. Jordan Reed is out. Kon Williams questionable and wetherspoons out. Go ahead. I'll also talks about divorce and if he's ready to play and how he's feeling Kyle, how did Deebo make it through the week and have you made a decision on whether he'll be available on Sunday? Yes evil play. I had a real good week of practice and down to get him in there and decide to see him out there. Kyle also goes into default and if he will retire because of his injury well in regards to D for the way, this is founded over the last few weeks. I got to ask is this a season-ending or a career-threatening injury that is a retirement even being discussed. It's not being discussed. But I mean and I don't want to say anything strong that people blow up but it's similar to what I said a couple of weeks ago when you're dealing with the back and things like that. It's I mean everything's a concern and also that stuff doesn't loosen up just randomly too. So that's why wage And slow, I just saw him here a little bit. I mean in the hallway on my way here. I think he's doing better than he was a couple of weeks ago. That's for sure. But something we just gotta be smart with and you can't risk things when you're dealing with that part of the body so long to get to st. All that stuff, but that's why we're being cautious with it and last room Shanahan. He talks about what he expects from rookie wide receiver. Brandon is with two games under his belt. What are you hoping to see branded? I you this week in terms of production and just in growth in the next coming weeks. I mean, I never think about it in production. I mean you really never know that like how the game plays out, but I expect them to get better wages and he has a still has a long way to go got in there week to improved a week 3 and I expect him to before had a lot of guys on our team who I think a high ceiling that they haven't wage jobs. I can get better throughout the game and Brandon is definitely one of those guys and he had a good week of practice and I hope it leads to better results Sunday or improving Nick Mullens also talks about how long Evil Samuel and George Kittle back for the game against the Eagles. Hey, Nick Kyle just told us that you're you're going to have both Debo and George Kittle back this week. Just what does that do for your confidence and just overall like the team's energy and things like that? Yeah. I mean, they're two great Playmakers on this football team and even getting on the practice field this week your class minded about their speed there so fast and every practice rep and every game rep and we're going to love to have their speed physicality and mindset back on the field this week. Um for those guys, I'm finally healthy Jason Verrett talks about how he's feeling after coming back from his injury and starting last week. Hey Jason, just curious. How can you hear me? Yeah. I'm just curious how last week went for you how you feel physically and what what it means to you and to for the 49ers to show so much faith in you get given every month. You've gone through so far. And first off last week was just a blessing man. It's been a while since I've been out there had a lot of fun man. You know, I work I work my tail off to get back out there. But as far as just forty-nine organization top to bottom and just have them faith in me, you know training staff coaching staff doing a hell of a job of you know, making sure my body is right and you know, I'm just I'm just happy to be out there and look for it for you know the rest of the season and that is it for your 40th Avenues. Please check out our main show 95th of radio on YouTube and where you can find all your podcasts, please also get your revenge tour March birth www.radio.com. Thanks. So that's always remain faithful. Thursday

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#314 Aaron Rodgers, Steelers, Washington, Josh Allen, 49ers, Week 14 Predictions & Ask Zac

Strong Opinion Sports

1:25:03 hr | Last month

#314 Aaron Rodgers, Steelers, Washington, Josh Allen, 49ers, Week 14 Predictions & Ask Zac

"Oh my goodness. Good morning. Good afternoon. Whatever it is for you. I hope you're having a fantastic day. My name is Zach Shawn alert. This is strong opinion Sports episode 3 months and 14 and it's Saturday. And I I wanted to say I don't I don't know that I'm not going to apologize for this week, but I do feel weird and bad. I had a bad week this week as a creepy. I know that a lot of people out there that make their own content and want to make content or out there and I I had a week that I feel weird cuz like I can't have a week like last week but it happened where I kept writing stuff and like for example, I watched the Bears game and I I thought he played kind of like, okay and I didn't really want to make a topic about the Bears Lions game. Just like I have no desire to shred too risky to Pieces. He also didn't really deserve it. He played okay, and I'm like, I don't there's nothing there dead and I watched the Saints Falcons game and I don't really like taysom Hill. I think he's pretty like there's a a play where he had a guy wide open over the middle for example, and he checks it down for no reason like dude you got to hang in there. There's a guy wide open over the middle or there's a couple of times were taysom Hill's checking the ball down too early and I saw a lot of stories as weekend. I watched every game and I There was a lot of stuff that spoke to me and I I really had a lot of writer's block is the word but I kept writing stuff and then throwing it away and scrapping it where I didn't feel good about it and I felt like no matter what I was no matter what Tom like came up with them. I don't feel good about any of this stuff and like I wasted two days just writing and preparing and then literally scrapping everything going this sucks. I don't like this. I don't I don't know. I'm a bit of a perfectionist and I admit that but I also I don't want to make crappy stuff and I never want to make a podcast that I don't feel good about and so I feel good about this episode. I'm sorry. It's taken, you know, my heart of hearts to make a Daily Show. I mean, I really I'm one person by myself. But if I could ever do that I want to do that. I just don't I don't know. I really had a weird week and I am sorry if you were out there going. Where is she? Where is the episode where is the episode but I'll say I feel good about today's episode. I hope you're doing very well. Just had a hard week as a Creator and I I want to share that Journey cuz I try to be off. And open and I feel good about next week. I got a lot of stuff. But today we're going to talk about what are we talking about? Today? We're going to talk about the bills the 49ers. We're going to talk about Washington the steam to do some predictions, but I do want to start with this because last week I was kind of off-the-cuff riffing I was doing it was a topic about the Giants and Seattle game talking about how man Russell Wilson really has just kind of fallen off the wagon in the MVP race where Russell Wilson's knocking win the MVP this year and Kyler Murray and the Cardinals. There are six and six Kyler Murray is not gonna win the MVP and I was kind of spitballing going like I don't know who's going to win the MVP Now, is it going to be maybe Patrick Mahomes and I was trying to think like who is the person that could win MVP and I don't know why this name didn't come to mind. But it as I thought about it more I realized oh, there's a knock sensor and it's a guy who's won MVP before I think the guy who's going to win the NFL MVP this year. Is the Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers and look man currently has got 36 touchdowns four interceptions. Those numbers are just going to get farther apart. He's got some more touchdowns. Probably. I don't think he's going to throw many more interceptions this year and it's not just the numbers that are impressive about Aaron Rodgers. It's it's playing some of the best football in the NFL. I mean if I look at all the best quarterbacks around the legal get like Patrick Mahomes has been really almost complacent and had some weird moments where I think he's kind of bored just waiting for the playoffs and Tom Brady's had some bad games Russell Wilson's had some really ugly games Philip Rivers and phone numbers. And I mean what quarterbacks stands out this year is having the best performance all year. It's Aaron Rodgers. I mean, he's the guy who of all the good quarterbacks and now he's playing the best and the most consistently playing the best of me. You'll see the Sean Watson. Have a great game or big banner Russell Wilson, but I feel like every single game or everything every single time. I talked about the Packers I go home. And Aaron Rodgers had another game for touchdowns this and that and m&a I kind of one of my personal flaws. I get bored with success a really for example, the Browns are so interesting where I love to talk about Cleveland because it's been a mess for years and I've been waiting and waiting and hoping Cleveland would get better and I think Baker Mayfield's really interesting where he'll have a bad game a good game and I like the the roller coaster and the drama and I'll be honest. There's not really been any drama. There's not really been any roller coaster in Green Bay. It's just been Aaron Rodgers putting in work every single week. Just having game after game after game. If you're trying to kind of predict who other people would choose to win the NFL MVP, I would say that guy is going to be Aaron Rodgers and I think it's well deserved. He's playing at a very high level, you know, Davante Adams has been hurt at times this year and errands done. Well without him even Allen Lazard Michael are sorry Marcos all the scaling equanimeous St. Brown These are guys who are they're really not Marquis receivers in the NFL app. Aaron Rodgers is still making them work and doing very well with them. I mean go watch the the Eagles Packers game last week. Aaron Rodgers had just some ridiculous throws that are like they're just I park really really wow off his back foot or that's a dime into a really tiny location just throw after throw. And so I also gotta admit. It'd be really cool to watch Aaron Rodgers won the NFL MVP in the same year that his team drafted a quarterback Jordan love in the first round. Hoping to maybe eventually replace him to be like a good kind of sticky if your organization. Oh you want to get rid of me. Hey, I'm still here I can still play and I know I've been critical of Aaron Rodgers in the past. I I I'm not shy of that. I would love to be ten rods or someday and say look I have this problem and that problem would be fun conversation off, but I try to always be extremely fair and I try to recognize people when I'm wrong or I don't I try not to be biased where even if I don't like something in Rogers does or I've been critical of them in the past. Please plan phenomenal all acknowledge that and Aaron Rodgers is playing phenomenal this year. I just think of all the quarterbacks and if you look around the league, he's been the most consistently with great performing quarterback all year. And I look at the Packers and go man. There's so much better this year than they were last year, which is hard to believe. I mean there were thirteen and three last year, but there were a couple of moments where the phone number the the Chargers game against Green Bay last year where the Packers got blown out and was ugly and I had a game similar to that this year actually against Tampa Bay but not Tampa Bay just had maybe the best game they've played all year round a mile and I look at the Packers this year. They're way more comfortable. Everybody looks more comfortable. Aaron Rodgers looks more comfortable their play-calling. They're calling certain place to set of other places are like we're going on here and make it look exactly like this other play and they're using place to set up other place and I just walk away very very impressed and you know at the center of the Packers. Phenomenal offense in Green Bay is the NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers. And so I want to come out now. It's what week 14 and say I already think he's going to win the award. I think he deserves he's playing very very well and not to say that I know that I've been critical of him, but I I do recognize and respect people who are phenomenal and Aaron Rodgers is playing at a very very deep level. If you win the NFL MVP this year, I would not be surprised. He's my favorite to win the award and if he does win that award, it's very very well deserving in my opinion. He's playing at a very high level playing phenomenal. And in my opinion. Again, Aaron Rodgers is the favorite to win the NFL m v p Don't want to talk about the Buffalo Bills. I want to talk about the Buffalo Bills Josh Allen. The Bills quarterback is playing Souls. So well, I mean, I really it's interesting to look back at the the 2018 NFL draft. That's the draft class of Baker Mayfield Sam. Darnold Josh Rosen Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. And in my opinion Josh Allen is the best quarterback from the 2018 NFL draft class and I did not believe I would be saying that three years later, but that's exactly what we're seeing dead. And I know that's even more controversial because Lamar Jackson won the NFL MVP last year you go. Well, Josh Allen, where's Josh Allen's MVP award? I understand that I think awards are great and I think tomorrow amazing last year, but I'll tell you what if I look at how Lamar is playing right now and how Josh Allen's playing right now, I would rather have Josh Allen but it is also very close. I mean clearly I think the two best quarterbacks of them draft from 2018 World Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and I think it was really more interesting. Is that somehow Josh Rosen was drafted ahead of Lamar Jackson. Now took them are Jackson to go to a good team where the has Joe Flacco we could sit for wild go to a good roster. I don't know how the more would have done on the Cardinals. I'm sure it would have done better than Josh Rosen did I met so Josh Rosen was dropped wage. Cardinals like tenth overall and it's crazy that he was drafted has done terrible and nothing in his career and Lamar Jackson win the NFL MVP last year. So again, Josh Allen and buffalo and Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. There are two quarterbacks from that draft class, but I would take Josh Allen and buffalo over everybody else from that draft class and there are three reasons why this has happened. I know it's confusing. There's a lot of Josh's I just said, I don't know why everyone named their kid Josh. I don't know. There's a joke in there somewhere. I'm not going to say it. There are three reasons though why Josh Allen has become the best quarterback in the from the 2018 draft class. Number one is just he's very very talented. He's got a huge arm. He's very accurate but along with that really natural Talent, he's massive. He can run people over he can escape sax where it's fun to watch and play literally he'll like you see Russell Wilson avoid a sack by being evasive and quick and small and Joe Allen just goes now. I'm going to throw you off me. You're not going to take me down. But along with the natural Talent the Josh Allen has is a clear and obvious work. Ethic is mechanics or better off. He's gotten more accurate in the NFL. He's reading defenses better. I am so very impressed with Josh Allen. I watch the Forty Niners game from I guess Monday night and woke. Oh my gosh. I mean he that's a good defense and good scheme and he just lit them up. I mean he was phenomenal. It's really I walked away going mad. Can you believe how well Josh Allen's playing this year. And so he's very talented. He works very very hard. But the third reason why Josh Allen I have to admit this why he succeeded is because I was given a great situation. He's got a wonderful offensive coordinator Brian table. He's developed in very very, well. He went to a good team and then also part of it is that you went to a team that believed in him and supported him from day one on there was belief that Josh Allen would become their franchise quarterback in Buffalo was never wavered. I know that Tyrod Taylor started at first, but the whole time off this is our guy and they've never wavered even through struggles. He had some moments where he wasn't great early on and he had some struggles and buffalo was still like no, this is our guy we are ride or die for Josh Allen and having that kind of support and that kind of belief and having an organization and a fanbase have that much confidence in you certainly makes your job easier. I mean You have to compare compare the situation of Josh Rosen who was replaced after one year very similar numbers to Josh Allen in your one or watching Sam darnold get the tar beat out of him every single week on the Jets. You have to acknowledge that some of why Josh Allen has developed into what he is and because of the situation around him but a large part at most of it is just this work ethic and his talent wage. Its work ethics would on very very impressed. We've seen so much growth from Josh Allen this year and I love it man. I just go man. I'm so very impressed. Now the next kind of story line coming up for our bills is Whether or not they're offensive coordinator Brian table is going to stay after this year. If I am Buffalo, I'm going to page Brian table, whatever he wants give him head coach money keeping their pay him anything because he's developed You're Young quarterback. He's part of why your offense is great. And I think here's the key though. It's not just that they developed. I mean, I'm sure that Josh Allen could get another coach an eventually do well but here's what I would be concerned about. Buffalo has a very brief window right now where there are a very very good football team. There are nine and three and even if Buffalo doesn't need a Superbowl this year in 2020 their windows open for a little while where they've got a really good young group of core players. And I mean even after the window will close eventually they'll still be very good. Josh. Allen is going to be good for it. Looks like a long long time. Right. Now you have this Foundation, of course young players who are very talented and I would be really anxious to capitalize on that where again a Superbowl window was open very briefly and we'll close very quickly. Look at the Cowboys a couple of years ago. They're they're most opportune moment to win a Superbowl was Dak Prescott rookie year the window was open and Bam it closed and I don't know that it's they're going to be open that window to win a Superbowl again for a long long time. And so if you're the Buffalo Bills, you have to recognize you got an opportunity here to do something incredibly special and Brian table is part of that your Offensive Coordinator would pay him whatever he wants. He wanted their keep him around and keep this group of people together so they can go on a mission and win a Superbowl. I can't stress it enough that Brian table is critical to the success of Buffy that he might leave and take a head coaching job. And I think they'll recover they'll be okay long-term. But if I'm them I'm saying I don't want to mess up his Mojo at all. I want to keep it going. Let's keep this guy around dead. Now right now, I think the biggest problem in Buffalo is their run defense. I really think they need to probably add another linebacker to help to pair with Tremaine Tremaine Burns inside to help them. Stop the run. I they got their demons align is okay, but the linebacker positions really I think they need to work on there a couple of guys at Buffalo could draft will see Micah Parsons out of Penn State or Dylan Moses out of Alabama. Maybe Jihad Woods at a Washington state or chest Surat out of UNC or Patty Fisher on a Northwestern a guy who I really like Paddy Fields. It's kind of a I think an under-the-radar guy, but I got playing very very well Northwestern and and I really feel like Buffalo was about a linebacker away for winning a Superbowl. They they give up waiting a rushing yards. It's kind of their the flaw with their team. But if they can fix their run defense and keep playing the way they were I mean, there are fences fine. They're offensive figured it out. I like some of the guys name. Secondary, I want the Buffalo to add another linebacker if they can do that, maybe free agency or in the draft if Buffalo cannot another linebacker. I really think this is a team that can win a Superbowl and they're already very very close. So can they keep Brian table there? Can they add someone to help their run defense and Josh. He keep being Josh Allen. He's phenomenal. So I walk away. Buffalo man is in a really good spot right now and Josh Allen is by far my four. I don't think he's dead way better than the March activities definitely better than Lamar Jackson in my opinion and Josh Allen is the best quarterback from the 2018 draft class, and that's to me pretty obvious in pretty clear. Let's talk about the San Francisco 49ers. I going to start by saying one of my favorite players in the NFL. I really two of them are on the San Francisco. Roster. Number one. I love their back up. Nick Mullens. He is we say Bank kind of a fun word because he's been there starting quarterback recently for quite a while. Nick Mullens is my maybe my one of my favorite players because he's not very physically talented. He's got an average arm. He's never really going to be able to push the ball vertically very much but it also doesn't really need to in this Forty Niners offense. He's kid throw the ball very well at the intermediate level. He makes good decisions. I know that Forty Niners fans will call me crazy and be angry when I say this. I think he's better than Jimmy Garoppolo. He's more consistent. He's got problems laws for sure. But I think he's kind of the epitome of a perfect document. I would call Nick Mullens and people say well, what about Carson Wentz or Tyrod Taylor the probably starting quarterbacks in my opinion a guy. Who I I would call Nick Mullens the best back up in the NFL because he's a guy that I would never make my starting quarterback. I would never build my franchise around Nick Mullens, You can come in he can win some games. He runs the offense very very, well. He makes very good decisions. He's limited. He's not good enough to ever make your Venture franchise quarterback. And I think that San Francisco this year will be in the market for a new guy at that position, but it's critical. You keep Nick Mullens around for example, if if the 49ers drafted Zach Wilson BYU then hey Zack will not come in and if he's not ready week one you have Nick Mullens. He's a good backup and knows the system. Nick Mullens can play week 1 and there's no pressure there and then exact Wilson two years from now is they're starting quarterback doing very, well. He gets her boss. Ankle injury. He's going to go out for three weeks. Guess what? You still got Nick Mullens, you can come in for three games cheaper season alive, and that's the epitome of a good back of a good backup as a guy who can come off the bench. Yep. Dim to make good decisions. He's not going to screw up massively and he can win you a game or two in a three or four game stretch if you're starting quarterback is out. That's exactly what you need from a backup. Nick Mullen is kind of the NFL's most perfect back up where he's never going to be big money. He's never going to be a threat in your starting quarterback. He's not talented enough, but he really can come in and when you a game or two in a brief stretch of games wage, and I think that Nick Mullens is the best backup quarterback in the entire NFL and I love him for it. He knows this role. He does very very well. I also love Deebo Samuel. He's a guy out of and he played his South Carolina for the Gamecocks. He doesn't have huge numbers. I know Deebo Samuel the guy around the NFL where I think fans don't really know him or respect him unless you're like a 49ers fan, you know him very well but players around the NFL who have played against Deebo Samuel, they know Deebo Samuel and they are very very impressed with him again doesn't have huge numbers, but he's very underrated he's dead. Receiver who runs the ball like a running back. I mean he really does he fights incredibly hard. He's got great effort and he's an important piece of this Forty Niners offense. It's been unfortunate part where he had told there was covid-19 serns this year mystical games cuz of that but I am telling you man that Deebo Samuel is a Workhorse who fights very hard and it's a guy who is a vital important piece of this Forty Niners offense and a guy that I would be so happy to have on my team. Now, it seems like the 49ers defensive coordinator. Robert. Saleh is planning to leave the team after this year. The assumption is that he's going to go be a head coach somewhere. And I want to repeat something. I've said before number one. I hope that the 49ers can recognize Robert Solace value. He's a he's a good scheme designs the scheme very well on defense. He's got great understanding in anticipation of what our fences are doing. He makes great play calls and I am hoping that the 49ers pay Robert Saleh to stay in San Francisco. I think that you know, first of all, he's he's again vital Kyle Shanahan and Robert Saleh the offensive coordinator slash head coach and the defensive coordinator Robert Saleh. They're better together. They are a much better unit when they combine their forces and play together and Coach together and then I would number two I would warn Robert Saleh. Men, I I don't know that Robert Saleh should be in any hurry to leave San Francisco. I mean, for example when you play with when when a coach with Kyle Shannon yours defensive coordinator, you know that Kyle Shanahan is always going to have a quarterback who's competitive. It's never a problem. It's never a concern. This is the coach who Kyle Shanahan made Matt Schaub phenomenal. He he had Matt Schaub throat for 5000 yards in one season. Boom. That's ridiculous That's The Power of Kyle Shanahan. He made RG3 the Rookie of the Year. RG3 was never seen again after birth and he made Ryan an MVP. He made Nick Mullens win games. They beat a playoff team the LA Rams with Nick Mullens at quarterback because of Kyle Shanahan's play-calling and his boss sign and his ability to coach quarterbacks if I am Robert Saleh, I'm in no hurry to leave that guy. Cuz here's the problem what let's say Robert solid goes to the Jets. Now. You need a coach you can coach quarterbacks and you can make your quarterback good and whether you drop Trevor Lawrence or keep Sam darnold, you might be a great defensive coordinator. I've seen a lot of brilliant defensive coaches fail because they couldn't figure out the quarterback position. I would hate to see that happen to Robert solid and then guess what he can't even go back to his old job cuz they're going to replace him with somebody in San Francisco. I really hope that both sides recognize the value of each other. I hope that the 49ers recognized the value of Robert Saleh. They gave him a raise pay him to stay and hope that Robert Saleh can recognize. Look. I'm worth a couple more million a couple of million a year. Give me more money, but my life is better off and off San Francisco in California. I don't think I would want to live there, but I do know that what he's got in an organization. The coach the quarterback great defensive players and incredible defense of line. They it definitely helps to be the coach of the 49ers where they got good players and a good quarterback. Most of the time I really would not be in any hurry to leave the 49ers if I was Robert Saleh and it would just issue him a warning Robert Saleh. I know you you probably wants recognition. He probably wants his own thing. Probably wants to be a run his own name. But if I'm him I'm in no hurry to leave and I'm I would be very careful find the right situation. Maybe it's the Houston Texans you go to the Houston Texans DeShaun Watson. Hey, Robert Saleh take that job. I love that but the Jets or the Lions or I mean who else has failed? I don't even know what jobs are available right now. I'm spitballing here, but I do I know that. I would be very hesitant and careful if I was Robert Saleh leaving the 49ers. I would only leave if I found the absolute right scenario. I wouldn't just go to Jay SRI Kong more money or chase and coaching job cuz you may only ever get one chance. I seem to head coaches there. I've seen coaches I guess in general take a bad job that they probably shouldn't have cuz it wasn't the right scenario to take that job and it's going well and then I seen High School coaches get their football program closed or I've seen college coaches get you know, they they had problems. So the administration was fatter and the NFL they couldn't get a quarterback. I mean, there's a lot of stuff you can't control see if you're Robert solid. You're in a good position. Don't leave a good position for a bad one. Only leave a good position for another good job, and I would be very careful. If I was Robert Saleh considering leaving the San Francisco 49ers. I want to talk about Washington. as I as I look at the Washington football team this year one thing stands out to me is that you know, Alex Smith is absolutely kind of the perfect quarterback for their head coach Ron Rivera home. He's not very flashy but he's safe and he's consistent and I trust him and Ron Rivera knowing how he will kind of quarterback who would want how Ron R does quarterback math. He's a defensive-minded coach. He wants to take care of the football. He wants a good veteran leader. I think Alex Smith is likely the guy in Washington for another year or two after this year where I just don't think washing the quarterback yet. People are going to say are they going to draft a guy they're going to get this Alex Smith is great. He's kind of he's playing very very well. He's rallied the team. They like him they respect him. He takes care of the ball. He allows our events of a very very well and I think part of why I mean Washington right now is on a three-game winning streak reason why is because they don't make mistakes. They play very very clean football. If you beat them. You gotta beat them. They're not going to beat themselves and part of that is Alex. He sets the tempo is the towing. He's the veteran leader and if I look around the NFL and go hm What quarterback do I trust to not make decisions do not make huge mistakes? Right? If I like what I take Alex Smith or Jared Goff. I take Alex Smith when I take Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins. If I if I need a guy and I'm saying my one situation is I don't want the guy to make a big mistake that will make a big interception or this or that the guy I trust to not screw up is Alex Smith over Baker Mayfield Kirk Cousins John Jared Goff Carson Wentz. I mean, there's Philip Rivers. I I trust Alex Smith more than a lot of other quarterbacks around the league and he's a very consistent safe quarterback who I think is exactly Rhonda various looking for a guy who can control the game be in charge and again not have nasty really bad turnovers and it's been really fun to watch Alex Smith as a year has gone on. When he first started playing, I think he played like he came off the bench in one game. I think it was a Rams game. And I remember going Alex Smith does not look comfortable in the pocket at all. And I went I don't know. I'm not ready for this where Alex Smith was darting around looked very uncomfortable didn't like bodies around him. And as a year has gone on Alex Smith has gotten more and more and more comfortable in a messy pocket with bodies around his feet and his ankles and I mean last week he was bleeding cuz he got cleated and I just think Alex met this really as Years Gone gotten more and more comfortable playing at a very high level. I would be first of all surprised if the Washington football team decided to replace him, but also, I don't think it'd be the right move. I think Alex Smith is your guy now for the next two or three years in Washington and that's okay. He's kind of exactly what you need and some day down the road. You can get another quarterback who can sit behind Alex Smith and learn and grow and maybe that guy is Dwayne Haskins right now dead. Dwayne Haskins is already he's talented. We saw that a while State we saw that a little bit at times last year and this year and either Dwayne Haskins can sit behind Alex Smith or someone else eventually can sit by gnome with right now Alex Smith is the best quarterback on that roster. He should be there Guy moving forward for the next however, whoever knows how long and it's kind of perfect wash and Ron Rivera got exactly the quarterback. He could have bought it could have hoped for and I think that's awesome. Now, I want to give a shout out to a couple of other people in Washington. Number one was Sarah Logan Thomas, they're tight end. Logan Thomas was a quarterback in college at Virginia Tech. He's really made the transition from quarterback too tight and very well. He's twenty-nine years old and he bought into that change. He's you know, he's been in the NFL for a while. Now. It's this is his sixth two team. He was been on the was on the Cardinals the Dolphins the Giants the Detroit Pistons not once but twice he was on the bills and now we're seeing Logan Thomas in Washington and he's really found a home there Logan Thomas is playing very well. He's having a career year and every category where he's got 43 catches for 426 yards five touchdowns. I give out an award every I'm going to get you know, I do the strong opinion Sports Awards and I thought my own NFL awards and one of the awards I'm I think my dad this year is the like newcomer of the year or breakout player or it's a guy who isn't a rookie home. Even even necessarily a star but who in their like second third fourth is randomly out of nowhere had a breakout year and became a great player. The guy who's probably going to win that award is JC Jackson an undrafted player for the patriots who is like second the NFL in interceptions right now. He's playing it's really kind of remarkable. This guy came out of nowhere and having a great year, but thier guy in the running would be a Logan Thomas the guy who I I think it's having a breakout year playing very well and I love watching him. And so I just shout out to Logan Thomas. It's a cool story used them back bought in at tight end playing very well and then another fun kind of storyline going on in, Washington. Is the have a receiver named can since who had one of the best games of his entire NFL career against Pittsburgh last week? We're really he was a backup quarterback at Alabama quarterback. No, sorry backup receiver Alabama was in the rotation very minimally tell his Junior and Senior year even as even his Junior Junior and Senior year and really didn't have a life-saving yards and get like 400 combined receiving yards and two years and on last week against Pittsburgh. He had five catches for 92 yards had a huge one-handed catch. I just think it deserves a little bit of respect and kind of a shout out where it's a testament to Ron Rivera how good he is at getting the most out of his players. I look at Ron Rivera I go man. I'm so impressed with the way he's doing this year. He's a great coach. And again, the reason why Washington has a three-game winning streak right now is because they're not making mental mistakes. They're not beating themselves. They're forcing other teams to play better and beat them and they're not going to beat themselves. I love it. I love what's going on in Washington and deserves a lot of respect. They're playing very very well and it's cool to see I love again. Shout out to Ron Rivera. Shout out to Logan Thomas Alex Smith. Ron Rivera had cancer Alex Smith fought back from that injury. Cam Sims Terry McLaurin. He's like a third-round pick. I mean, this team is full of people who have overcome and have turned themselves into what they are through hard work and grinding and I just think it's very very cool. What's going on in Washington? It deserves a lot of respect. And I've had a blast watching and following and covering Washington this year in 2020. All right, guys, I'm going to take a short break whenever turn we'll talk about Pittsburgh. Talk about Coastal Carolina. Actually, we'll talk about BYU. We'll talk about the Rams Patriots game later will do predictions will do ask Zack at the end of the show. My name is Akshay omlor. I'm going to take a short break. I will be right back. All right, we are back over doing very very, well. I I want to Circle back to something. I kind of talked about to open the show. I was ripping and sharing my heart. I don't really have the heart to make a video just tearing down taysom hill he's a decent quarterback, and I also thought I'm going to keep giving him an opportunity like he it's been three games by the Falcons twice. He put another team some team. That was not very good either and I I'm blanking on that team right now doesn't really matter. I haven't been not impressed with taysom Hill yet this year, but I'm going to keep giving them an opportunity playing the Eagles this week. We'll see how he does there. I guess. I want to see more before I met like the video output up on taysom Hill's. Basically I'm saying he's fine. He's not going to set the world on fire. I think he's more of a backup than a starter. I wouldn't build my franchise around him. But I I maybe I think what I'll do is a film analysis eventually, but right now I don't it feels mean-spirited and I don't have the heart to Make a video like that. I'd feel like I was just staring into the guy and I don't really want to do that. I don't really feel the desire to do that. So just putting that up to the world. That's why I haven't covered taysom Hill song we played last week against Atlanta. I know we had two touchdowns. He finally had his first touchdown pass in the NFL. It's very cool. But I just go I can't I'm hesitant to page him to believe in him and it's not like it's a preconceived notion. It's how he's playing I go he's fine. He's okay. I've learned my lessons about you know, I think arm Talent matters. And right now we're offering a lot of Nick Mullens who is got the ability to run his Nick Mullens, but with the ability to run around, I mean that's kind of like great. He's fine. He's decent. He's nothing terrible. I'm not a lovely guy either way. Let's talk about I want to talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers recently the problem in Pittsburgh with that team has been that they've been dropping passes just been happening a ton recently. They dropped a bunch of passes against the Ravens two weeks ago that part of why they lost to Washington was dropped passes. I believe they depending on like the the numbers on drop-off is our it's not really an official stat. Cuz some are controversial like was that a drop was that a good play but a defense it's kind of it's a weird thing all over the place. But some people will say that according to their own statistics Pittsburgh leads the NFL and drops. I kind of believe that supposedly they have 31 We'll see now. They also recently lost you Washington. The Steelers are 11:00 and 1. And everybody had a weird reaction to that game. I feel like most of the NFL world really celebrated. They were like, yeah. I'm so glad Pittsburgh lost the game and You guys know me. I don't have a favorite team. I really don't care who is I don't have a horse a dog and fight. I don't good or bad. Like I just try to call things. Like I see it may have been calling Pittsburgh the word they've been using is they say the Steelers are frauds. You know, they're frauds. What does that mean? What do you mean the Steelers are Frome? They're a good football team there eleven and one and I it's just weird rhetoric. It's been weird conversation. I get a lot of messages saying they're overrated. They're not as good as they could be there this or that and see what does it mean to call Pittsburgh frauds. Does it mean they're going to lose in the playoffs? I mean, they're they're going to go what 12 and 4:13 and 3 and then they will the lose in the playoffs and then people will say, oh see we told you so the Steelers are terrible and I would say well, I don't know how you look at Pittsburgh and not recognize their talent not recognize their the success. They've had this year. It's incredibly hard to win eleven games in a row in the NFL deserves respect. It deserves admiration. They got a ton of good weapons on offense. They've been dealing with drops understandably. So the name Ray Ray McCloud returning punts. They have who I mean, what was that broadcaster last week? You kept calling him Ray McDonald for like the first quarter was kind of weird. They have Juju Smith Schuster James Washington Chase Pool Eric, Ebron to James Conner. They have Benny Snell. They've gotten I think all they have Deonte Johnson. They've got a lot of really impressive receivers in my opinion better than you realize even deal with drops fine, but they still a good offensive line. They got a great defense like a phenomenally good defense. Maybe maybe the best defense in the NFL. They got a hollow Fame coach and a Hall of Fame quarterback. Don't know how you don't look at Pittsburgh and go that's impressive like not just on paper. They've been doing some good stuff this year playing the I watch their games and I go I'm impressed and people are the the criticism everybody has faith. Pittsburgh has to say that their margin of Victory isn't very impressive. They've barely beat this team and this team and this team and they lost to Washington and I by the way predicted the Washington lost because Washington is very well-coached and Washington does not going to make a mistake. You have to beat them. They're not going to eat themselves and I just saw that coming else. Yeah, I think Washington's Better Than People realize off the Record and they go to a bad football team beat Pittsburgh know a good football team beat Pittsburgh because the team that has to five and seven record and Washington is not the same team. They were at the beginning of the year. They are a better team today than they were weak one Washington's gotten way better zeros going on and I guess it's just weird to me like so in the next couple of games, let's say that the song Lose to Buffalo. They lose to the Colts. They lose to the Browns right three good teams. Probably three playoff teams fine, right they so they lost a washing and three good teams. They're dead. Maybe twelve and four. Let's say they go thirteen and three they beat in Cleveland at the end of the year. Is Pittsburgh a good team or a bad team a good team has a 13-3 record of the team is 11 and one. I don't know how you look at what Pittsburgh is done. Look at the Personnel you look at other than playing and go. Well, there are bad for they're they're overrated. They're not they're not really as good as the wreckage of snow does the reason the records call the record. It's a record of how well they've done their exactly as good as the record shows and I just think people love to watch them. I don't know I think people really are jealous of success or they like to hate on people who do well I don't fully understand it and I think Pittsburgh I bet the city is pretty loud about their success their fans on Twitter or something. I know that their players are very they talk that they chirp a lot, right? But I I mean criticizing the margin of victory for Pittsburgh is a bit weird when Kansas City who's also 11:00 and one barely beat Denver last week. How does Thursday to explain that or what about the fact that it took over time for Kansas City to meet Justin Herbert and the LA Chargers. Who by the way the Chargers got beat by the Patriots 45 520. So my point is NFL math doesn't make sense. You can't go this team beat this team. So that a win is a win in the NFL. It doesn't matter how you win as long as you win and I I just think it's kind of weird people are saying all the Steelers overrated I think part of what an impressive things about Pittsburgh this year. Is they've won in a multitude of different ways whether it be with their defense running the football or throwing the footballer with their offense or with this or that their special teams in one? That's just really they have a talent at every facet of their team. And I I just don't really understand the the hatred or hatreds one thing. It's the the desire to tear down a team. That's clearly a good football team and say see, they're not very good and people are like, I don't know. I don't understand it. I don't I don't understand. I'm just I'm gonna have nothing else to say here other than it makes no sense to me why people are so quick to jump on the hate train and attack the Pittsburgh Steelers now, I want to read a question from the audience and where you can write into the show on page around you go to patreon.com forward slash or Jack has a question about Pittsburgh. He says do you think that the Steelers losing to the Washington football team is a blessing in disguise? Now let's dealers can focus more on winning a championship than going sixteen and no I think that it will be good for the Steelers to relax in the regular season so they can make sure everyone is healthy and ready to go out of the playoffs when the Patriots try to go 16-2 know I think Bill Belichick use all his tricks and the regular season which eventually gave the Giants a lot of film to use against them and it backfired out for the Patriots. The Steelers may have avoided that by losing and so Jack I think that's a good interesting direction to go here. You know one thing it's you got to point out about Pittsburgh is that And I don't know directly about Pittsburgh. Yes. So the Steeler so the Patriots couple of years ago. They did everything they could to beat the Giants and they beat the Giants in week 17 last year in a couple of years ago. Then they played that team against the Superbowl and they lost cuz it already tipped their hand and I don't think that going undefeated or having a great regular-season is as important as winning a Superbowl. I think off the city is kind of an autopilot mode when they're eleven and one it's been an ugly 11 and 1 there's a reason for that you look at I mean remember when the what was that 72 and nine or something about the the the Golden State Warriors went 72 and 70 to 9. I believe something crazy as some crazy record 738 the Warriors had an incredible year whatever else. 82 - 73 and 9. I don't really care doesn't matter the Warriors have this great season and the regular season and then as they got to the finals they lost and the Warriors realized we expended all this energy trying to have a great regular season and we still lost the championship. So I guess my point is to say that teams in the NBA have figured out. It doesn't matter regular season to good enough to get the number one seed or do good enough to get near but don't burn everything rest is important. It's okay to your job is to win a championship not to have a great regular season. And so It is possible that this does bring a sense of relief to Pittsburgh Perfection can be distracting and I just it's possible that losing to wash 11:00 and 1 rather than Twelve and O take some of the pressure off and actually does help Pittsburgh. Just an interesting thought by Jack I like the question and worth taking notes. Okay and drink some water real quick first. I want to give a shout out to Coastal Carolina. They're undefeated. They play Troy today. Let me check the score of the Troy game. I watch the BYU Coastal Carolina game and I just loved I loved the the teal Turf there were these shirts that the Mormons versus mullets. I thought that was really fun. Coastal Carolina beat BYU and they're beating Troy right now. Twenty-One to sixty thousand eight twenty-seven left in the third quarter closer than what I thought Coastal Carolina is just a fun program a program that's hard to hate on. You know, their their mascot is a shell Claire which is a it's like a cunning rooster that wins with this brain. It's a smart rooster basically from some story some like book write a fictional novel or something wrong. I I got to say also really like the the the triple-option offense. It's kind of a hybrid like a spread triple-option offense. And I think actually when you play BYU with no preparation, by the way the team with the triple-option offense that runs the ball really well probably has the advantage that definitely helped them beat BYU and the whole game in general felt like a celebration of this fun Coastal Carolina program. I really liked them. I thought the this whole year for Coastal Carolina, they're undefeated. We'll see if they beat Troy. They're they're fun. They're exciting. They are they're 15 minutes from the beach this whole year has been a great recruiting tool to say hey went out front of the beach want to win games when we're black jerseys planned tealtor.com play for the Coastal Carolina chanticleers. And I I never thought that would ever say the word chanticleer. I never heard of it before watching that game. And I thought that man getting to have comb Carolina in the the national Spotlight for a day. They played last week in h BYU. That's awesome. That's fun. And I just want to give them a shout out. I probably won't do a break out for them. They got a freshman quarterback Grace and McCall who I really like. He's more of a runner than a distributor got a question on patreon about it. I'm not going to read it. I think I deleted it by accident just being off but I just shout out to Coastal Carolina. There are fun programmes. They were injured interesting program. I'm probably not going to make a break out for this but for listen to the podcast, I just what a fun little college program. I like them. I I really was endeared to them watching them play BYU. I liked what they got going on down in South Carolina. now I believe that BYU quarterback. Zach Wilson is going to be the most successful quarterback from the 2021 NFL draft class. I mean like so from that Dragon to have Trevor Lawrence will have Kyle Trask we'll have we'll have Justin fields and I think as we watch Justin Fields go probably to the Jaguars number two, and we see trash go to the Jets. Number one. It's going to be really easy to go. What do you mean during the most successful not saying the best quarterback and that's even that's debatable. But the reason why am I believe Zach Wilson would be the most successful quarterback in the NFL overall from this 2021 NFL draft is because number one, he's very talented and I think in a normal year off Zach Wilson might even be the number one quarterback on the board. I mean, he's got Justin fields in Trevor Lawrence ahead of them have been hyped forever who people really love and tackles kind of lay down to the block. He plays for BYU a smaller program. But a normal year without Trevor Lawrence and without Justin Fields, Zach Wilson likely would be the number one quarterback taken in the NFL. So he's talented enough to be the best quarterback in the draft. Even if he's not and then he loves football number two. I mean, I've heard from multiple people now that Zach Wilson say football nerd who watches film and loves it. And what he loves to do is take you watch Drew Brees Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady and pick apart their game and try to take the good parts of everything that he sees on film. He's a nerd he loves football. He's passionate about the game. So what I've heard from people, I believe that when I watch them play and I really like what's that golson's doing he's talented. He works already loves the game and the number three as Zach Wilson. Will fall down to the draft. I mean, we'll see if Kyle Trask gets drafted ahead of him. We'll see what happens there. I think that Zach Wilson should be the number three quarterback drafted in the NFL draft. If you can follow to a team like the San Francisco 49ers or the Patriots or somebody trades up for him. My point is that Zach Willis is going to go to a better team than Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields. Justin Fields is going to go to the Jaguars Trevor Lawrence is got a hopeless career ahead of him trying to turn the Jets around. I hope he does. I like Trevor Lawrence, but as he falls in the draft, he's going to be dropping to a better and better team and then you have a mix of a very talented player who could have been the number one quarterback drafted who loves football on a good team. All of that combined is going to make Zach Willis and most likely the most successful quarterback in the 2021 NFL draft very similar actually to Joe Allen Josh Allen member him. He was not the first quarterback taken in the NFL draft in 2018, Sam. Darnold take ahead of him Baker Mayfield was taken ahead of him. But Josh Allen went to the Buffalo Bills where he had good support around him was very talented got better. I think that it's a similar situation here where sack Wilson's go into a good team. That's going to want him. It's got a like him going to have better players around him to support him. Oh, yeah, by the way, Jack Wilson worked really hard those football and he's very talented already. That's a recipe for success in the NFL if you ask me. Now last week BYU lost to Coastal Carolina The Place San Diego State tonight. BYU is 9 in one and I got to say I really respected that BYU. Made the Coastal Carolina game happened. They drove out late. They got their equipment. They're barely in time. They played a game basically on no notice and I walked away going, you know, what respect for taking the game. I think we learned a lot about BYU as a program in 2020 from that game will talk about that in a minute, but I just gotta say it was gutsy to make the game happen and it's also kind of weird people have a nice size exact Wilson for having you not as best game of the year against Coastal Carolina. Do you understand how hard it is to play a game with no preparation. It's like basically going to a high school football Jamboree where you don't know the team there from like some other state you've never heard of nearly for example, we would play when I played High School football years ago. We would go to the Oregon State football camp and our team would be playing teams from like Southern Oregon and Idaho and like we've never heard of this random School in Idaho, but we're going to play them in the scrimmage with no film study and just go off what we know and what time Over three were to throw, you know, we'll take the flat against Cover 3 just doing what we do but not necessarily having enough time to prepare a whole game plan for the game that felt very similar watching Zach Wilson play against Coastal Carolina due to the best they can they probably Cobble together some kind of game plan late and when you don't have preparation, it's hard to get ready for a game. Obviously. I mean even at the NFL you have Thursday night football, but at least you know, the games coming up you feel your schedule you play Sunday and then you play again on Thursday what you have weeks of notice. So people a team of people that do film study can get you a game plan and get some stuff prepared and some notes prepared and to the quarterback come Monday after the game on Sundays like hey, here's you're not coming Thursday night game. He's everything prepared for you ready to go. Zach Wilson had none of that against Coastal Carolina. That hurts him for sure. now Coastal Carolina did expose BYU and really what happened was this game was dominated up front by Coastal Carolina. People are moved on the national headlines. Don't care about Coastal versus BYU, but I do because everyone's going to say be why you got screwed over they should have had a better opportunity getting the college football playoff this and that what we learn from the BYU Coastal kind of game. Is that be why you never should have been in the conversation for the college football playoff from the beginning? They got dominated up front by Coastal Carolina birth and 1/4 down 33 whatever Costa was running all over BYU dominating in the trenches. Oh, yeah, by the way, say my defense BYU was given a ton of pressure inside that a hard time blocking for Zach Wilson against Coastal Carolina, and if you get dominated by Coastal Carolina on the offensive and defensive line, You have no chance competing against Alabama or Ohio State or Clemson or Florida? And so I I think the world should be very glad that we saw BYU lose the Coastal Carolina and the fact whether they want or not. We saw them play that game and the game whether BYU won or lost that game last Saturday we saw what brought you is like. Oh, they're not that great upfront. They're not good enough to compete with the team like Alabama or what? We we knew that like if you're not a BYU fan you already knew that but big fans that were like our team is falafel like I'm excited for you and I know you went to that school you pay the money every year. So you donate to their of course, you're going to be very biased in favor of your own former College. But the game against Coastal confirmed that BYU had no place in the college football playoffs competitively. They they might be a decent brand their faith-based loves them. But they are not a strong enough football team to compete with the best of the best in college football. And so I I would say Coastal Carolina. Thank you very much for making it clear. They beat them so that the argument was over before it even began. But even if BYU had beaten Coastal Carolina, I would walked away saying oh, yeah, by the way, do you see how much be where you got domination third and one or how much pressure was on sack Wilson? Yeah, watch them play. Alabama would have been even worse. So thank you to Coastal Carolina for making it very very clear about BYU. The Rams beat the page where it's 24 to 3 on Thursday Night Football kind of a boring game. Honestly. I I watched the game I was like is this ever going to get better? I'm bored. I'm not having a good time. I the Patriots are struggling there six and seven. I would not blame the Patriots problems on Cam Newton. Remember this is a team with basically no offensive weapons and Tom Brady couldn't win with that roster. So Cam Newton really didn't have a chance in New England from the beginning. Number do the Rams are 9:00. And for the Rams are a team with you had two convincing wins in a row to beat the Cardinals not to beat the Patriots. They're on the ball very well. The Rams played great defense and what I'm seeing from, LA. Is that the rams look hungry to get back where they remember they lost the Super Bowl two years ago to the Patriots and they had a year kind of a a survival year where every every time you lose the Superbowl. You have a year off where you kind of that the year hangover the Super Bowl hangover. Now the Superbowl hangover came and went the Rams are here again. There are nine and four. They got a great defense when Jared Goff play as well. He's phenomenal and my problem with Jared Goff is he's not consistent enough, but I will say that my dream NFC Championship right now in the NFL. I want to see the the Packers play the song. I want to see Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay against Sean McVay and Jared Goff and that fun running game and the Rams. I really think Rams Packers would be a lot of fun in the NFC championship and Probably the Saints will get there. I think no matter what happens the team from the AFC is most likely to win the Superbowl if it's not the pack, it's probably the Packers or the AFC in my opinion. But I I really think that the Rams are have been playing very impressive football. They deserve respect and I want to see them get to the NFC Championship Game want to see Packers vs Rams for the title of the NFC off to get into the Super Bowl be really really fun and I walked away very impressed with the Rams on Thursday. All right. I'm going to take a short break when I returned will do some NFL predictions for week. 14 will answer some ask that questions. I am very excited. I think that this week week 14 wage is going to be a phenomenal week of football. I think that there's four games in particular where I go. Okay, that's going to be fun gotta be interesting and very exciting. My name is Akshay omlor. I'm going to take a break whenever turned NFL predictions are ahead. Oh, right. We are back. Hope we're doing very very well. I am so excited for this weekend. It's going to be phenomenal NFL Week 14 is here and we got some good football head this weekend. It's going to be great. I want to do some predictions. I want to start with what I would believe our before best games of this upcoming weekend number one. I believe the Steelers Bills game might be the very best game will see all weekend to playoff teams. I really like Buffalo here. It's a home game for them at Orchard Park, but I'm picking the Steelers to win. The bills weakness is their run defense and that makes me concerned for this game, but there are a couple of fun things to watch your number when you have Big Bend against Josh who I think I think they're playing style is very very similar. I have said before that. I think that Josh Allen is kind of a younger version of Big Ben. I mean the way they the way they avoid sacks, they throw people off of them. They're these big hulking players who got incredibly strong arms. And as time has gone on Big Ben got more accurate and got more precise and so as Josh and his NFL career And so I think the other thing to watch really is that does Pittsburgh catch the ball. I mean, how does Pittsburgh handle the cold? I think supposed to be like 48 degrees not a terrible weather day and age Pittsburgh has been really struggling to draw passes recently had a bunch of drops against Baltimore a bunch of drops against Washington and they're not going to be able to survive drops against Buffalo this weekend. They have to catch it if they want to win and they have a lot of draw paths that could cost them the game against the Buffalo Bills game number to Monday Night Football the Browns and the Ravens home. I am hoping that this will be a great game. It should be any time the Browns and Ravens play. I guess really not that's not true. But anytime you have a divisional game with teams that know each other very often. I would hope it's interesting and I'm really praying. I mean, these are two quarterbacks Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield. They were drafted in the 2018 NFL draft and really I mean, I've been I've been really ranting and raving about wage. Good, the Browns have been this year recently. This is a prove-it game for them if they are really as good as their record shows. They're what they're eight and three they're doing very well. I guess are nine. And three of them is very very well. The Browns hath is shell progress and do very very well against Baltimore this weekend and they have to win this game. These are two very similar teams. They both run the ball very, well. What I think is interesting about the Ravens is that when you watch them they're in the shotgun a lot watched how they use play-action from the shotgun. I think they're the best team using hard play-action fakes to sell the run and get people open downfield long as the Ravens use play-action from the shotgun because I think better than any other team in the NFL should be fun to watch and I I really am excited for this Browns Ravens game. I hope it's good. Hope it's competitive and interesting and even I'm picking the Browns to win they should win this game. But again, all I really want is a fun interesting competitive game that comes down to the final moments. That'll make me very very happy. Number three Washington against the 49ers. This is Alex Smith against his old team. The 49ers feels like a good matchup. You have the beat up 49ers team should say a rising Washington team was very well-coached again. These are too well-coached football teams. Washington is very very disciplined. They're on a three-game winning streak Washington will not beat themselves. They will force you to beat them. They're not going to make mistakes that's going to cost them the game and I simply believe and hope this will be a very close and interesting game. I really bought my prediction here is that it's going to be closed fun and interesting to watch if it's not a close game then I will be wrong about this prediction. All I'm predicting here is it'll be closed fun and interesting number for them. Colts and Raiders, I'm thinking the Colts to beat Vegas this weekend should be a good one. If the Raiders want to win they have to force the Colts quarterback Philip Rivers in to make a key mistake or two a pick-six or bad interception. My fear though is that the Raiders are going to struggle to run the ball. This Cold's defense is really really good up front. They got divorced near back in their line-up their front seven is awesome. And so this will be a gritty tough hard-fought game two teams that run the ball. They love to run the ball. They run the ball very well and it could go either way. Maybe the player watch is Henry rugg's the rookie receiver with the Raiders. Can he make a gigantic play that I mean, he had the game-winning touchdown last weekend against the Jets. Can you do another place like that where he's so quick and so fast and they run and vertical all the time. I'm curious if Henry drugs can make a big play in this game, but I'm picking the Colts doing they're also they're way more consistent the Colts have been dead. More consistent than the Raiders have been very up-and-down this year and picking the Colts to beat the Raiders Jets at Seattle. I I'll be honest. I don't have the guts to be picked the Jets to beat the Box in this game. But man if any team was ever going to blow a game to the Jets. It would be Seattle. They would do it and the Seahawks should win this game know the better team, of course. I'm going to pick them to win but the Jets are getting better. They almost beat the Raiders last week and I watch that game and it wasn't like the Raiders were terrible. I mean, I really thought that the Jets were just competing and fighting hard and it off hundred yards rushing against Vegas last week. And so I don't really trust Seattle the Jets are trending up surprisingly shockingly. Now, the the best storyline here really is that Seattle safety? Jamal Adams is playing his old team the Jets and I would love to see Jamal Adams have a monster de to sax a fumble recovery an interception something like that. I want to watch Jamal Adams go off and have a really bad game against the Jets this weekend show. Hey, remember when you didn't want me to trade me away that was a mistake. And so I want to see them all out and have a great day. I'm picking the Seahawks but man it does feel like any team is going to blow him to the Jets. It would be this very uneven very inconsistent Seattle Team. Texans Bears, I'm picking the Texans to win the Bears were solid last week trubisky was fine, but I want to remind you guys about the 2017 NFL draft. This is a walk-in where Chicago drafted North Carolina quarterback Mitchell trubisky instead of Clemson quarterback DeShaun Watson, and I believe in this game to Sean Watson. Now with Texans quarterback is going to show Chicago why that was a very very bad decision a couple of years ago in the NFL draft. You should have taken the Sean Watson and I think the Sean Watson's going to show that off on Sunday. Cowboys Bengals, both teams are terrible. I think the Cowboys have more Talent than Cincinnati. I don't really want I'll watch this game at some point. I watch every game every week, but I I don't want to watch the game but I will say it's Andy Dalton against his old team that'll be fun. It'll be interesting. And so I'm picking the Cowboys to win against Andy Dalton's old team. That should be a fun interesting storyline a cowboy should win on Sunday Cardinals Giants. It's a tough one the Giants they've improved every week this East this season the Giants are getting better and better and better and it's tough the Giants win four games straight. So I'm having a hard time betting against the New York Giants this week. I really I like them. I like Joe judge. I'll even admit I am rooting for the Giants in this game. And even though the Giants are playing at home. I'm picking the Cardinals to win this game. I can't I can't bring myself. I mean the Cardinals have they're getting Larry Fitzgerald back at Kia receiver who's a veteran presence. They're getting they have Kyler Murray a great quarterback. I can't pick the Cardinals to lose this game. I just feel like I think the Cardinals are better but I am torn up. I'm very very conflicted. I'm rooting for the Giants. I would be very happy to see the Giants beat the Cardinals on Sunday picking the Cardinals to win, but I feel really conflicted and torn up about it. It's a cold game. It's in New York home game for the Giants walking the Cardinals. I'm not very confident about the the Cardinals should win they're a better team, but we'll see if they do that on Sunday. Vikings Bengals Bengals Vikings Buccaneers, excuse me, if I Kings Buccaneers, this is a must-win game for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're seven and five months and they need to win to stay in the playoff hunt. Now the Vikings are very well-coached on defense Mike Zimmer. Their head coach is a defensive mind that I love and I would hate to play against Mike Zimmer terrifying. He's really smart. He disguises coverage as he runs good blitzes. He calls whatever he wants whatever covers he feels like he's going to work on that scenario wage. They run a lot of different stuff in Minnesota. This will be a very good game. It will be it's going to happen and it could be a really close tough game for the Buccaneers where I think that Tom Brady could have a long time against this Vikings defense. Unfortunately, I I'm picking the Buccaneers to win an ugly game, but I'm picking the Buccaneers because of their defects. Playing Kirk Cousins to I will say Kirk has played very well. I would not be shocked to Minnesota won this game. I think the Buccaneers have to and I'm picking the Buccaneers to win this game, but and I think Tampa wage because of their defense their defense can make some plays and I think Kirk's streak of not having an interception a while my end on Sunday Me Kirk Cousins always played very well recently. I I think Tampa wins again because of their defense but not because of Tom Brady. I'm torn I'm going to be closed and interesting, but I'm picking the Buccaneers to beat the Vikings on Sunday. Broncos Panthers both teams are four and eight point blank. I believe the Panthers are just a better team despite the record Being the same. Both teams are banged up. I don't want to ask really ask yourself this month in a close game. Which quarterback do you trust to win at? The end Drew lock has got you know more interceptions than touchdowns or Teddy Bridgewater. I trust Teddy Bridgewater. I think the Panthers are going to win this game. I think it's interesting though. The Broncos have been getting steadily. More coherent every week and I I don't know. I'm excited to watch this one because I want to see how Denver does they just had a really close game. They almost beat Kansas City last week. They are trending upward wage. I think that Caroline has been solid all year. So it should be an interesting test for the Broncos. I want to say I drew lock plays and I'm picking the Panthers to win should be interesting. I'm definitely going to watch it off and I want to see what happens. Titans Jaguars and picking the Titans to win they should win Derrick Henry. They're running back should have a big day and a tendency wins this game. They're going to be 9 and 4. That's a big deal. It's impressive. Now. The bad news is that Tennessee cannot generate much of a pass rush at all. Their pass rush has been really ineffective than Jadeveon Clowney their defense event that guy they signed hoping you would have a big impact. He got hurt and that makes me even more nervous and so we'll see here how the Jaguars quarterback Mike Glennon does. I think you could have a good day. I think a Jaguar still are going to win but we'll see what happens. I think so, excuse me. I think the Titans are still going to win but we'll see if the Jaguars can challenge the Titans and make it interesting either way. Now Packers Lions, I would be shocked at the Lions beat the Packers this weekend, Aaron Rodgers playing like the NFL MVP. I believe he's going to keep things wrong. I think the Packers beat Detroit in Detroit on Sunday Falcons Chargers. Is it bad that I don't care about this game. I the Falcons are four and eight the LA Chargers are three and nine. I like Justin Herbert. So I'll pick the Chargers to win the game. I guess. It's a it's a weird one for me. It's a rare that I look at a game and just I don't care at all. And I I look at this game. Like even the the Cowboys Bengals game. I went. Oh, I'm excited to watch how Andy Dalton does against his old team this game. Just I didn't have anything emotionally. I didn't feel anything I go. I don't I don't care and I'm not interested. I it's very interesting to me. I just I don't know. I think that we'll see how Raheem Morris does. He's done fairly interesting lie. Well as the Falcons interim head coach, I don't know that it's done. He's done. Well enough to keep his job on the year is over, but we'll find out. I know that if Raheem Morris wants to keep his job as the head coach of the Falcons. He's going to have to win this game. The Charger just got crushed by the Patriots 45 to nothing last week. They need to respond with a positive performance this week and then we'll see what happens. I'm I don't I'm sure that fans of the Falcons and charges are interested. I think otherwise people are going I don't really want to watch a game. I don't really care about that game. We'll see Justin Herbert. I hope Justin does very very well Chiefs and dolphins. I'm picking Kansas City Patrick Mahomes against the Miami defense can be really fun really interesting. Miami's got some odd corners and they're doing some good stuff and I like to uh, I think too is I some sort a lot of timing routes. He's been throwing a lot of quit game. He's been very fine. He's kind of a distributor. He's been very Like I'll be honest comparing Justin Herbert 222 has been underwhelming if you compare those two mean Justin has been way more capable. He's done more physically and I believe that Miami's offense. I know I'm bouncing around. I just too has been like very fine. And I I don't know that Miami's offense can't compete with Kansas City and so case he's gained like 28 17 or 28 to what's a touchdown and three field goals. I don't think Kansas City loses this game. Even if their defense does. Well, I don't I don't know. We'll see. I just I don't I don't have a lot of faith in Miami in this game, but I think they'll fight harder to make it interesting. Saints and Eagles I'm picking New Orleans to win this game, but it should be fun for a couple of reasons. It's Jalen hurts first ever start in the NFL. That'll be awesome. And then it's Jalen hurts against a sandhill crane interesting quarterback. So I personally cannot wait to get my hands on film from this game. I've been waiting for Taste and held to impress me kind of waiting and waiting and taysom Hill hasn't really grabbed my attention and pressed me. It's been very decent no more. No less. He's been very quick. I think to check down quicker than I think you should have been has been a couple of times where he's at Guys open downfield and it's checked it down instead of pulling the trigger. That's kind of weird for me. I think he's really kind of more like more of a back of his Nick Mullens with the ability to run more than taysom Hill has a franchise quarterback. I'm not impressed. But hey, we'll see. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for days until they impressed me and he might do it this week. Certainly the Saints should win this game. The Eagles are not very good and dead. On hurts. I can't wait to see how he does because Jalen hurts really just needs to make good decisions and not have any crippling mistakes. I mean New Orleans is a better team and should win but can Jalen hurts to be smart with the football even if he's losing I don't care if you're losing the game make good decisions the downfall of Carson Wentz was that he tried to play Hero ball and he made things worse by making mistakes. Can Jalen hurts avoid that if things are going poorly they're losing just hey make the right decision with the ball. Take care of the ball do the right thing. Don't try to make some crazy play that isn't there or throw the ball away when it's time to throw the ball away, you know, check it down. You need to beat the blitz with the do the little things right? I want to see if Jalen hurts can do the little things right and simply run the Eagles offense better off Carson Wentz has all year. And so I'm picking Orleans to win, but I really personally cannot wait to watch. Jalen hurts play in NFL Week 14 All right, guys, before we go. Let's do some ask Zach questions questions from the audience to my favorite part of the show in case you don't know how it works you go to patreon.com forward slash Zach Shalom give a dollar a month literally a dollar month. You can't get more if you want to please do it really helps pay my rent. But a dollar a month gives you access to submit questions on patreon. And if you submit a question on patreon, I do not guarantee to answer on the show. But I do guarantee you look at every single question and message and everything. I get with my eyeballs and I picked the top couple I try to read them at the end of every show and again a dollar a month. That's $12 a year. If you can support me on patreon it mean a big deal to me. It would really help the show. And the first question today is from Jeremy. Jeremy says hey Zach. Hope you're doing well in this crazy year. I am now more than ever reminded of the relief and happiness Sports can bring in the midst of all the weird stuff going on in a particular. I had a moment of realization of that while watching the highlights of the Cardinals last game. I got just irrationally happy whenever Larry Fitzgerald caught the ball not even a cards fan, but seeing this ledge and sticking it just let me up like crazy. So my question is are there any particular moments or details in this game that give you this immediate sensation of Joy when they happen during a game keep it up man Germany from Jeremy thinking he's Jeremy from Germany. So are there any moments from football that just give me great joy First of all, I guess I got to say like it's been a weird hard year. I remember when there was no sports for a little while. I was devastated. First of all financially I needed I need Sports to happen. It's my job to cover them also with my sense of escape and my way to get away from The problems of the world and so when when there are no Sports, I have a really hard time. My probably my favorite thing in football. I love when young quarterbacks do well like I watching Justin Herbert dual an awesome watching Jalen hurts too. Well, I hope is going to be really fun this weekend. But even just young guys in general watching people who I mean you you gotta understand that sports are a dream for so many people so my my favorite moments in any sports are for example Sergio Perez one in F1 Grand Prix last weekend the secure Grand Prix dead. He's the first Mexican to win an F1 race in like fifty years and Sergio Perez group his whole life racing and hoping and dreaming of winning an F1 race and he did on Sunday Monday and he raced for a long time for D. Team force India who was not very good and he never left that team and that team got better and better around him and he won a race in his last ever season with this, too. It's unbelievable. I mean when I thought about it that way made me want to cry and so when I look at guys like cam Sims had a great week against the Steelers for the Washington football team this past weekend 5 a.m. At 492 yards. That is so cool. Like he realized his dream. He did very well and when I see guys succeed in the NFL who are maybe not big named Logan Thomas the tight end for Washington or a really a guy who's become a star JC Jackson an undrafted player who's done very very well with the page this year like one of the top one of the top leaders in interceptions this year in the NFL or DeAndre Johnson who's worked really hard and kind of broken onto the scene this year from Pittsburgh. I like watching young guys break onto the scene. It's probably my favorite like story line wise is one of my favorite most compelling things to cover is just like when you watch a guy who's been together for a year or two and finally pops. Oh, that's awesome makes me off. Happy Daniel written see I can pull it up. Daniel says. Hey Zach, love the show. Do you still feel like giving up on Daniel Jones? Yeah, I I want to clarify though. I think people are misunderstanding when I say I'm Giving Up on Daniel Jones. Here's what that means. I don't believe in him. I don't think he's the answer long-term. I think his to physically limited I think is awareness in the pockets of gigantic problem. He's got too many turnovers. So when you asked me about a pick a side, do you think Daniel Jones is going to work or not? I say no. I don't think it is doesn't mean I hate the guy doesn't mean I don't want to see Daniel Jones. Well, I would I want Daniel Jones to prove me wrong that topic is a prediction me saying I don't like I actually don't gain anything from saying Daniel Jones is going to succeed because if I am right to like a few years from now Daniel Jones fails, and I I approved to be right no one's ever thought. Hey great job Zaki you really you were totally right about Daniel Jones. So honestly, all that prediction does is get me hate and anger for two years while people are furiously mad at me. So I don't I don't believe Daniel Jones answer long term, but I hope I'm wrong. I like Daniel Jones nothing against him. I it'd be certainly very convenient for the Giants if he was the right guy and time will tell Tyler writes in says Arts Manning this time maybe scientists. So this guy's been writing in about Arch Manning the the nephew of Peyton Manning the son of Cooper Manning the older brother lived for a long time. He plays High School the old high school Newman High School. I believe in Louisiana where Peyton and Eli and Cooper all played. Here's why I haven't covered Arch Manning at all and and continue will continue to not cover Arch Manning. He's sixteen years old like he's a kid. He's in high school when Archie Manning gets the college football and breaks onto the national scene. Yeah, I'll cover it'll be interesting. It'll be fun but it's a kid. I'm not going to cover kids. It's kind of weird and I'm good. I I want to let kids be kids and when he gets to college, then we can talk about Arts painting until then. I keep getting it's not just kylo. It's like literally so many people have asked me talk about Arts painting talk about Arch man and talk about Arts management. I just yeah, it's a nephew Peyton Manning. He looks fine and we'll see how he does in yet and in college football until then not going to talk about him. Kristen writes in and that'll that'll be it. That's all I'm ever going to say about our commanding like literally until until more news happens and it's more noteworthy. That's all you're ever going to get. Tristan says he's got a lot to say first of all, he writes a very heartfelt message. I'm going to read it on the show. He says Zack just have to tell you how much your show has meant to me this year your passion intelligence humility sense of humor and your openness with your audience has been such a breath of fresh air. I truly do love the podcast and appreciate you greatly. Thank you Christin. Thank you so much. He continues by saying you also make me feel a whole lot smarter when it comes to the game of football and it's all specifically if you like I made some great strides in terms of analyzing the game because your podcast and that has been very rewarding for me personally cannot thank you enough man. Took. I'm so glad you wrote in. I'm glad you're here. I appreciate you listening to the show. Here's question trip Christians. Here's Tristan's question for the show. He says, I am very curious to know your thoughts on my question. How do you feel about movie studios planning to release films digitally shifting further away from theatrical releases. How do you feel about digital vs. Seeing the film on the big screen? I am personally a big screen purists. I'm nervous at covid-19. Look, it has really I mean I the state of movie theaters is really sad and disappointing right now. I I win saw tenant the last movie I saw in theatres was tenant the name Christopher Nolan film. It's phenomenal and I we sat social distance apart when the movies over people came and cleaned the seats. I don't know why we can't do that. I don't know why theaters need to be closed. Can you just do it with social distancing and with spring them down afterwards. It seems like that's a viable solution but I I will say so I there is some magic to watching a movie on the big screen. It's amazing and I I see every movie I can that way and I know it's weird. I just I see almost every movie that comes out in theaters cuz I just I love I love I love movies. I watch even bad movies in theaters cuz I don't care. I just love. I love movies and I love movie theaters. So I'm one of those Nerds II. however I got to be honest. I I love watching stuff at home. I mean, I I love being home and maybe what I'll do is get a giant projector and then I can watch movies on a projected wall so I can get the big screen effect, but I I don't really have any desire to Go out. I don't have a desire like I'm a huge introvert anyway, and then covid-19 it like oh you have an excuse to never leave your house and like I've never leaving. I'm good. I am never ever going anywhere else. Then. I watched a concert this week. My favorite artist is named. Jon Bellion. Jon Bellion is my favorite musician of all time ever. No one came close. He's amazing. He did a concert and I I felt good giving him my money cuz I knew would be quality and not like him and he's giving the money to the people. He's performing this so they can take care of their families during covid-19. Concert I've ever been to and maybe go I want to go to Every concert this way. And so the minute movie start coming out day-and-date digital. I'm going to watch every movie at home. I will I am I went theaters are open again. I'm sure like, I love to see a quiet place 2 in theaters, but if a quiet place to comes out digital, I'm just gotta watch it at home happily. Like I'll pay thirty bucks cuz it's still cheaper to go to a movie theater. That's good for me. So I I don't know man. I there's something about watching stuff at your house, but your drinks and your drugs and your food and just hanging out doing that way. There was something really special and amazing about that. That's what I am torn but I very much lean, I'm cool doing it at home forever. I I in charge me a lot of money like charge me more than you would in a theater because I can invite all my friends and family. I won't cuz I but I could if I wanted to but I won't ever charged bring my friends and family over here cuz I I like my house. I'm a home birth. I'm an introvert me and my girlfriend are both very quiet nerdy people who are very happy. Just being left alone and doing our thing. And so yeah, I'd be I'd be happy if I never had to leave my house for a concert a movie every I'm sure we'll I mean there's something about there is a Irreplaceable experience of being I go into a Khalid concert one time on the floor, and it's just the music so loud and the crowds there and I mean, I just hate the people part if I could have the loud music and Khalid live be honest. I don't need all these other people around me dancing or movie theaters when I watch at home I can pause it off. I don't need to worry about kids crying. I don't need to worry about missing anything going to the bathroom. I don't need to worry about annoying people around me talking or opening their stupid candy or whatever my problem with that stuff. I don't like people so Monday, I'm ranting now. I love you guys so much. I appreciate you. F1 tomorrow I'm going to do what's on tonight. The the Miami game was today or watch that. I'm excited for this next coming week with strong opinion Sports. 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#303 Joe Burrows OLine, The Cowboys Defense, Carson Wentz Failures & Benching Daniel Jones

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32:32 min | 2 months ago

#303 Joe Burrows OLine, The Cowboys Defense, Carson Wentz Failures & Benching Daniel Jones

"Oh my goodness. Good morning. Good afternoon. Whatever it is for you. I hope you're having a fantastic day. My name is action alert. This is strong opinion Sports episode 303. I hope you're doing very well. It's early on a Saturday morning in November. The leaves outside are you know, really there in the middle of changing color? They're bright red right now very very beautiful. I was not you talked to somebody this morning who lives in Florida and they saw my picture of the leaves on my Instagram story and oh like that's what it looks like when you have a season. I can't believe that you know, I guess I didn't I never thought about this but in South Florida, there just isn't really much of a seasonal change with the leaves and the colors and interesting to me now. In today's episode. Obviously, we're going to start with the 49ers and the Packers. That's the the first game that happened in the NFL week 9 but then I want to turn back the clock and go back to NFL Week 8 cuz they're still some things. I want to talk about. We learned from week eight last week. We'll talk about how Joe burrow the Bengals quarterback really helps as offensive line. We'll talk about the key to stopping the Tennessee Titans on offense the problem with the Cowboys defense some lessons that you can learn from Carson Wentz the Eagles quarterbacks failures, and then we'll end the show with a I think a good topic about why I would not been charged the Giants quarterback Daniel Jones, but of course as I said earlier will start today with this on Thursday Night Football the Green Bay Packers beat the San Francisco 49ers 34 to 17 month. The Packers are now six and two after the win the Forty Niners are now four and five. This was a dominating Wind by the Green Bay Packers now. Yeah, the Packers played very very well. But also the Forty Niners are just in real life really bad shape. They're missing so many players at this point. Yeah, here's a list of some guys that are out. I'm not going to list them all. I know there's more I'm forgetting but between The quarterback a little bit important Jimmy Garoppolo is on the injury injured reserve with a high ankle. Sprain George Kittle the I would call them the best tight end in football has a fractured foot. He's on the IR three running backs where he most Jeff Wilson jr. And Tevin Coleman, they're all out and injured and so you're missing three running backs three receivers a tight. You're starting quarterback your left tackle a couple other players on defense. I'm probably I know I must be forgetting somebody. But I think the 49ers have a very very solid backup quarterback Nick Mullens. I would say he's in the conversation as maybe the best back up in the entire NFL I would not need a starting quarterback ever at any point in his career. But that was a team that had a quarterback. I liked one of my first phone calls would be. Hey, let's get Nick Mullens in the building cuz he can run our offense well enough and do well for a couple of games for guys hurt and keep our seasonal live in a situation like that and I am not kidding the 49ers quarterback. Nick Mullens was literally throwing to a guy I had never heard of Rick James James, I guess at a Middle Tennessee State, I believe I think I'm getting that right. He's a former seventh-round pick nine catches a hundred eighty four yards and a touchdown. I mean, I know the name now good for him. But that's how far we've come with the 49ers is I just feel bad for Nick Mullens because colvin's screwed up their entire game plan. They missed two receivers were just dead. Kendrick Bourne and Brandon are you they found out right before the game started? Hey, by the way, I could day before a day earlier. Hey, by the way, they're not going to play. So you gotta scrap everything you have planned and you know create a whole new game plan. And Nick Mullens had tier two and two turnovers can't even say turnovers where he hit as he threw. I just felt bad for the guy on 1/3 and 16 got hit trying to throw to a check down. Probably just take the sack. The ball got popped up in the air and intercepted later. He was hit as he tried to throw and he fumbled so again, I the word I keep saying this but I feel so bad for the 49ers am interested in their season. It's been totally nerfed by injuries and Twenty-five. He was twenty-five or Thirty One passing had 305 yards for touchdowns 0 interceptions. He literally only had one incomplete pass in the entire second half and that was actually a throw we're down the pressure. He was extending a play. He just threw it out of bounds away to avoid taking a sack of an Aaron Rodgers was ethereal in this game. He was phenomenal. But there was a moment on a third-and-short. We're Marquez valdes-scantling had when I would call a bad drop. He's wide open. You gotta catch that pass and Aaron Rodgers gave Marquez valdes-scantling that Aaron Rodgers glare the death stare and I hate that crap. I really really hate. It's something we've seen often from Aaron Rodgers where when a receiver screws up he gives them that death glare and I think that the way Aaron Rodgers handles and reacts to Mistakes by his teammates is totally inappropriate and very very unhelpful for his team. He was a very similar moment in the steelers-ravens game in week 8 where a Steelers receiver had a bad drop. I think it was on a key third-down as well. And the Steelers quarterback Big Ben was totally encouraging and kind said hey, the Clapping clapping the hands kind of smiling. Okay, let's go you got this and that's a much better way to put a handle a moment where somebody on your team screws up. Now look again third and five your wide open one hundred percent. That's a pass that needs to be cut. But the passive-aggressive glare that's not a good look and that's not a good way to handle that situation. And it feels like everybody kind of gives Aaron Rodgers a pass for that. You just treated like Wisconsin's Lord and say you're like, oh the mighty Aaron Rodgers and he's won a Superbowl. He's been an MVP he deserves a lot of respect he gets but the glare and the attitude behind it off creates a bad environment. I just if I could ever ask Aaron Rodgers anything I'd ask him about the way that he glares at receivers. You know, I would ask him why he thinks that's okay to do that. I wouldn't just be as you know, all buddy-buddy with Aaron Rodgers. I would really challenge him dude what is going on in those moments? And I guess maybe maybe challenging him as a wrong approach, you know, Erin would probably say well he needs to catch that ball and he would be right, of course, you know, that's true and you're not wrong your receiver on 3rd and five wide open It's gotta catch that passed but in the big picture, I guess isn't it better if receivers want to catch the ball because they like you may not because they're afraid of you. I just think the death glare is never a good idea and Aaron Rodgers and my opinion as a wrong approach. So I guess I wouldn't challenge him but maybe I would you know, cuz I think challenging him would make him just defensive and put his guard up and maybe even an interview but I thought you'd be all mad. But instead I would try to explain that. I think there's a better way. He probably still wouldn't like that either but you could at least try on your end to communicate in a way that doesn't make him immediately shut down, but I just every time I watch Aaron Rodgers do that death glare off receiver who makes a mistake I go dude. That's just not a healthy good positive way to handle that it look at Big Ben. He's like, hey, let's go clapping encouraging kind of smiling. Hey, you got this that's a much better way to handle somebody around you makes a mistake and every time I watch that, I think about Aaron Rodgers going to go man. That's just not a good way to handle that situation. Now, let's turn back the clock a little bit to NFL Week 8. Last Sunday the Bengals beat the Tennessee Titans 31-20 and so the Bangles after the wind there now to 5 and 1 and the Tennessee Titans are five and two. And I don't know that I would call this a close game, you know, the Bengals are up twenty four to seven early in the fourth quarter. But this game is a reminder really of how small margin for error in the NFL is and you know, think about it this way the Titans had 441 yards of total offense in this game actually way more than the Bengals the Bengals or 300 something off Derrick Henry had a hundred and twelve yards rushing and the Titans did some really good stuff in the same things that I go that's encouraging that's good rental at this time down the left sideline just a beautiful perfect throw there was another player where it's third-and-goal technically three yard line. I would call it a 3 and 1/2 3.75 yard run even maybe basically four yards. Where the Titans ran for a touchdown that's an impressive run showing a lot of confidence in your running game. The Titans had a 10-play 75-yard drive where night of their plays were running plays and just like impressive man. They were pounding the rock. So the running of oh, well, I thought rental a couple of really good throws Titans receiver Corey Davis had a really big day had eight catches for 158 yards and another and a touchdown and this is only the fourth time ever. By the way that Corey Davis has had a 100-yard receiving game and part of that is because of course the Titans are really heavy with running the football they have been for a while. But also Corey Davis was the number five overall pick in 2017. And it's kind of sad he's had such a muted career to this point. It's very disappointing for Titans fans. I think I would even say that Corey Davis at a very very disappointing career choice given how high he was drafted. But Corey Davis had this huge day and it's kind of sad that that a lot of success for him did not lead to a Titans Victory. I mean things went well, they're running a little wagon rent analyze a couple of throws Accord Davis had a big day and in the end, you know, really a couple of small things are what led to the Titans losing by a lot. It's funny how again the margin of error in the NFL is so small. We're a couple of small things can have a really big impact Ryan Tannehill had an interception in the end zone where Ryan Tannehill was extending the Play-Off and I think made a throw we probably shouldn't made to probably should have thrown the ball away live to see another day instead forces it into coverage in the endzone got picked off. Stephen Gostkowski, the kicker for the Titans missed another field goal and I like Stephen Gostkowski, but he's really really been struggling this year. He's 10 / 17 kicking. He also missed two extra points so far of year and this game also kind of highlighted really how badly the Titans are struggling to generate a pass rush going into the game and I guess even still this very moment as I talk. The Bengals quarterback Joe burrow is the second most sacked quarterback in the entire NFL you would think hey, wait any time you play The Bangles you're like, this is our day. We're going to get a sack. This is Thursday to finally show what we've been missing and the Titans did not sack Joe burrow. Once the only quarterback who's been sacked more than Joe burrow is Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz month. And so it really it's kind of being shown that Jadeveon Clowney the defensive and they added in free agency. He's a number to he's a robin not a Batman and it's very disappointing from a Titan standpoint that they have not been able to generate any kind of pass rush this year. Now it also makes sense for the Titans traded for a corner Desmond King from the Chargers. They're desperate for help. I'm hopeful that the trade is going to work out for Tennessee. I think it might be but the Chargers did not want Desmond King at all. He was inconsistent. He had some problems behind the scenes La literally just gave him away to take his contract. We don't want him. They traded him for a sixth-round pick this guy who's twenty-five years old who's a former All-Pro Corner, that's not a trade to see everyday a guy who has been that successful in the past gets basically handed away to another organization, but I am hopeful that you know, the Bengals game kind of highlighted man. They can generate a pass rush. They need help in their secondary. I think that maybe Desmond King can come in and generate and help their defense in the ways that they need. Now this game also really highlighted that the key to the Titans offense is first and second down because they are not built at all for third-and-long, you know, basically the key to stopping the Titans offense. If you're a defense from defense of perspective if you stop them on first and second down and you get them in a third-and-long basically you've already won so watch if you're a fan watch that going forward this year because in this game especially against the Bengals it really showed there were a ton of Mistakes by the Titans on early Downs. There was a missed throw High by Ryan Tannehill took an out route. There was a holding call on the offensive line. There was a ball that AJ Brown dropped over the middle on a second down play and the Titans offense is built for running the ball. So on third-and-long, you know, they they run the ball. Well, they use play-action that generates throws downfield on third-and-long play-action doesn't work. Nobody buys the the fake that you're going to run the ball. They go home. You're not running the ball they back way off cuz the Run fake has no no what I call no power over a defense. And so right now Tennessee's main focus on offense has to be avoiding a third along situation at all costs. Now I thought the Bengals beating the Tennessee Titans was an impressive performance. I think the Titans are likely a playoff team and so it really shows how much progress the Bengals have made winning a game like this doing it the way they did 31 to 20 they were up again. They were up twenty four to seven at one point in the early in the fourth quarter. And Joe I guess is really been exactly what was needed to Breathe new life into Cincinnati and Joe Burrows progressing so so quickly, I love seeing a man. I I should look we'll see if he ever I don't know. I don't know what the ceiling is for Cincinnati, but I it shows meant for from a Cincinnati perspective Joe burrow is absolutely the right pick and there was no way he was but oh my gosh, she really has turned things around in Cincinnati. And again, there's a lot of Hope in Cincinnati. He is changing some of the culture of the work ethic there and Jill Burrows progressing song. Oh so quickly from my mental standpoint. I mean he has answers to nearly everything defense has are doing his timing has been really good. He's also getting the ball out of his hands very very quickly and nothing. I love about Joe burrow so far is he has not made the same mistakes twice like at all as hard. I mean you learn a lesson, but you have to learn the lesson. You can't just make the mistake. He's making a mistake and learning lessons from the mistakes. He makes I think that's awesome and jealous doing such a good job in Cincinnati receiver. Tee Higgins was the first pick in the second round. He's really showing off by that was a great pick you had a ridiculous catch against Tennessee down along the sideline Gilberto extends the play throws vertically great play to keep his feet in bounds. Now I think the biggest take away from this Tennessee Titans Cincinnati Bengals game is at the Bengals offensive line is just not very good. However, despite the fact that they're not very good. They're not very physically talented and they make little mistakes. The one thing that Bengals offensive line can always always control. Is that they can always give high levels of effort no matter how talented you are. You can always control your effort. And there's this almost like a silent understanding where Joe burrow is so good at movement in and out of the pocket. He can extend plays he can step up move right move left off the key to the Bengals offense of line at this point is simply all hinging on their effort because Joe burrow was so good at moving around and creating more time to throw the ball. Joe can Elevate the success of the offensive line with his movement as long as those guys keep giving a high level of effort long as they keep giving effort. He'll navigate the pocket with his movement. Well enough to stay alive and throw the ball downfield. So I think man it's because so you see like if you're watch Jake Fromm at George Jake Fromm in college at Georgia stood back there in the pocket like a statue literally had time for days and do never got touched. Nobody's were around him. Jill Burrows. Never going to have a clean shirt pocket where it's easy can just stand in the pocket. There's going to be no pressure on him. But as long as the offensive line despite giving ground and having a guy come free here or there if they can just keep giving effort. He can find a way to stay alive in the pocket throat of all vertically. It's never going to be clubbin by Joe Joe Burrows pocket movement such a big deal. And it really can. We saw this against the Titans going to help make the offensive line better and Cincinnati. And by the way, Joe burrow is a long way better athlete the people tend to give him credit for we always talk about his arm, but Joe Burrows also a really really great athlete. Now there was this ridiculous catch that I think the the play kind of highlights Joe burlas ability to move within the pocket Joe throws the ball with his receiver is literally turned away from him. And I don't know that that completion isn't locked or maybe an accident the receiver turns on the last second. I don't know how he possibly knew the ball was coming to him but it turns to catch it. Either way. It's really really great footwork by Joe burrow and it shows like he really can use his legs to make his offensive line better with subtle movements in the pocket or extending plays and that is how Joe burrow make offensive line a little bit better. All right, guys, I'm going to take a short break when I returned. We will talk about the problem with Carson Wentz. We'll talk about why the Eagles defense is struggling and I'll end the show by talking about why I would not bench the Giants quarterback Giants quarterback Daniel Jones. My name is Akshay Kumar me take a short break. I will be right back. Okay. All right. We are back again. I hope you're doing very very well. I want to talk about Sunday Night Football. In week 8 of the NFL season on Sunday Night Football with the world watching the Eagles beat the Cowboys 23 to 9 the Eagles after the winter now three four and one phone not a very good record the Cowboys are two and five. This was a very very ugly game the Cowboys had a rookie quarterback playing Ben dinucci. He's a seventh-round pick off and been was okay could have been worse had a lot of rookie mistakes mostly held onto the ball too long yet two fumbles, but somehow that's not the Cowboys biggest problem. The cowboy biggest problem is their run defense. It's the worst in the NFL by literally over two hundred yards. It's awful and the Cowboys defense has many many problems, but the front seven wage offensive line their linebackers, they are really struggling with communication with trust with gap Integrity. There's a lot of missed assignments. There's some bad tackling angles and if you've Played linebacker then, you know about Gap responsibilities. Basically, every Defender has a job in the running game and there are gaps that need to be covered and a gap like the space between an offensive lineman. You have the a gap which of the space between the center and the two guards. You have the B gap between the guards and the tackles. You have the C gap between the Chrome tackles and the tight ends and then outside of the tight ends is the D Gap. So if you're on defense, you have a gap that you are responsible for and you have to trust that the guy next to you is going to cover his Gap you need to communicate all of this doing, you know, during shifts and motions by the cross the line a guy comes across. Hey, I don't know things like that. You gotta talk and communicate and it has to be clear what your responsibility is every play on defense and a lack of trust and a lack of communication is causing so many problems guys are in the wrong gaps guys are overcompensating. They don't trust the guy next them. So I got a cover his Gap and my gap which is just not true at all. You gotta toss he's going to do his job. I'll do my job. There are missed assignments. It's a mess right now in Dallas. There are all kinds of problems. And basically the Cowboys are struggling with football fun Dimension where I think their defense would have been bad regardless of you know, what happened this year. But one hundred percent covid-19. The basic fundamentals of football and that's why the Cowboys defense has been so so bad against the Run. Now so the Eagles beat the Cowboys and it wasn't really pretty they're actually losing 9 to 7 and half time. But against Dallas Carson Wentz had four turnovers two fumbles and two interceptions. And a lot of lessons can be learned from Carson Wentz failures. The biggest lesson in my opinion is basically that Carson Wentz is trying to do way too much. He's trying to be Superman song and the Eagles have been hit by a ton of injuries. You know, I think Carson Wentz is trying to compensate to make up for it. You know, okay, we may not have the guy we need there and there and there but I'm going to put the trash my back and carry us to compensate for all the losses. He's holding onto the ball way too long. He's making risky throws. He's forcing throws into coverage and I often relate playing quarterback to being a race car driver do that all the time. And you know the offense and the system the play-calling I call that the race car and therefore the quarterback is the driver. And the problem is right. Now the Eagles offense is not a sports car. They're more like an old beat-up junker car so you can have a race car driver, but he's driving a horrible car. That's not actually a race cars. And Carson Wentz hates losing his very very competitive and his fear is that if I just do my job and do it. Normally I'm not going to able to help my team enough to win football games. And so Carson's competitive nature is part of the problem right now in Philadelphia, but Carson needs to realize you can't add two and be part of the Eagles problems on offense. Okay, you're missing a guy you're he ran the route. He this he did that seat of that. You can't compound a mistake with your own mistake and add to the problem. So Carson Wentz just needs to execute and do his job. Do your job execute the offense. I would say drive the car down the road your job as a quarterback. You're you're in charge of this really you're driving this incredible nice sports car club drive the car down the road do the little things execute. But the problem is Carson doesn't trust anybody around him and he doesn't trust the system run doesn't trust the play-calling and so of course and whence ever gets benched two things will have happened. Number one. It would mean that the Eagles are sick of his Antics. They're sick of Carson's crazy plays throwing the ball across the field and doing dumb stuff, but it would also mean that number to look up the Jalen hurts. The backup quarterback will have been doing a better job simply executing the offense. He's not doing any crazy stuff. He's taking all the throws that are there and doing the little things right cars and went to struggling with the little things he needs to Simply execute the offense again, just drive the car down the road just drive the car Carson. That's all you got to do. Stop trying to get a key things. We roll out right and you hold on the ball way too long, you get sacked and your phone bill or throw the ball into traffic. Because Carson Wentz is incredibly talented. I would say that he is one of the most talented physically gifted quarterbacks in all the NFL. And I just think that Carson Wentz has to stop getting in his own way. He's got an incredible arm. He can run he can make all kinds of plays but he's gotta execute and do the little things right if he wants to be he wants to keep his job. Basically, he's got to turn things around and start executing and stop making this crazy ridiculous, you know attempts at trying to be Superman. Now, there are two more small lessons. You can learn from Carson Wentz and its problems and his mistakes. These are mistakes that led to turnovers where you know first there's an interception on a deep ball to John Hightower High Towers running a deep post office and cars and throws it really to the wrong location. He's got a lead John Hightower across the field away from the Defenders where there's really nobody. If you look at the middle of the field to kind of across the finish the right side, there's nobody on that side of field lead your receiver away from a Defender. Instead cars from trolls it more vertical and helps the young rookie corner for Dallas get an interception instead of throwing it across the field that gets picked off because he left it to Vertical down the field. Now the final lesson is this I always say that young quarterbacks have to know when a blitz is coming and you need you need to know where it's coming from and how to beat that Blitz with a 3 month. So on a fourth and three cars and did not recognize Cowboys linebacker Leighton Vander esch Blitz right up the middle and the lesson here is that if a team blitzes that fact that there's a weakness in the coverage either they're in man coverage downfield or avoid has been opened up in zone coverage somewhere in their coverage. And vanderwest blitzing left a void wide open in the middle of the field and Carson not only doesn't see the blitz. He also does not see Greg Ward standing wide open number 84 same thing wide open in the middle of the field. I mean, there are literally two Eagles receivers wide open in the middle. So young quarterbacks, you always have to understand how it could be tablet. You have to have a plan. What's your plan when they Blitz know where it's coming from know when it's happening and how they plan to beat the blitz with your arm throwing the football. All right final topic of the day. I made a video a couple of days ago called. I've given up on Daniel Jones. And if you if you haven't watched it I recommend going to watch it. It's on YouTube. But the gist of it is that General Jones keeps making mistakes and keeps making a lot of the same mistakes over and over and off the Giants quarterback. And on top of the mistakes is also not super talented physically yet that good run, but even other than the ability to run it's like he's kind of Mitchell trubisky. And they're all ready for young quarterbacks in their first or second year who looked like they're better than him Kyler Murray Drew lock Joe burrow and Justin her birthday and we're entering this golden age of quarterbacks where there are so many talented young quarterbacks. In fact, I think very soon. There's going to be more talented young quarterback. You have starting jobs in the NFL. And the Giants cannot afford to be one of the teams that as this there's this Young quarterback Golden Era that young quarterbacks everywhere the Giants cannot afford to be one of the teams that do not have a good Young quarterback month. And so I've given up on Daniel Jones. My prediction is that I don't think it's going to work. But with that said I also would not bench Daniel Jones at all because basically it makes no sense to Benja. So my prediction is he's not the long-term guy, but ask you what does benching Daniel Jones for Colt McCoy do for the Giants? How does that help the New York Giants? It doesn't there one in seven if Daniel Jones continues to play badly. Hey, guess what? You got a high draft pick you can replace Daniel Jones dead, but also maybe on I doubt this but maybe somehow is switch gets flipped on and Daniel Jones starts playing really really well. And then yeah, you got your franchise quarterback, that'd be awesome. I don't think it's going to happen. But my point is that there's no benefit to benching Daniel Jones. My prediction is it's not going to work. I literally said I've given up on Daniel Jones, but what that means is I do not think that as a year plays out. He's going to turn out to be the long-term guy, but you still gotta keep playing Daniel Jones all year, see how things turn out if you're likely going to have to replace him but benching Daniel Jones does nothing helpful for the New York Giants. All right. Guess that's all I have. Thank you so very much for tuning in. I love you. I appreciate you. I I'm going to go let me go to bed. Really. I've got this weird sleeping schedule now where I I'm awake for eight hours off and then after eight hours of being awake I go to sleep for sleep for four hours eight hours awake for hours of sleep 8 4 8 4 8 4 on and off on and off. It's working really well. So I am going to sleep for four hours then it will I will edit the show and put it out to the world and hope you enjoyed. Hope you have a great day. I love you. I think I'm going to later and my next eight hours. I'm going to record production versus reality for NFL Week 8 and then hopefully record some NFL predictions for week 9 coming up. Hope you have a great day after I record that show then I'm going to watch the USC Arizona game. That'll be really fun off. The Georgia Florida game is today Notre Dame Clemson will do some ask Zack questions. All that stuff is up ahead in the next episode or two, but I appreciate you. I love you. I hope you enjoyed the show have a game. But I'm bum bam we are done.

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Good Morning Niner Empire 10/01/2020

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03:09 min | 4 months ago

Good Morning Niner Empire 10/01/2020

"Good morning for dinner Empire. My name is Jamie. Today's October 1st. 2020. Let's get into some 49er news. Here is an injury update from Kyle Shanahan right guys today for the injuries. All right, Ford will be out with the back garoppolo's out with his ankle Greenlaw. Quad Mosley stolen concussion protocol most start with his knee. Sprain Jordan Reed with his knee sprain and came down with hip discomfort. Also team has released Long Snapper. Kyle Nelson. They have replaced too much to bear pepper. Here's what head coach call Shannon had to say about Kyle Nelson. I always waving Kyle Nelson Palm Court decision for you, or was it something you felt was inevitable. I mean we felt it was a little inevitable after the game and everything and it was always difficult cuz of what Kyle's meant to the organization how good of a guy Kyle is off of a player that he's been and it doesn't mean he can't be going forward but it's always hard from the personal relationship that we've had with him and he knew the deal and it was just a tough game for him and usually off. Like that, you do have to move on get someone else an opportunity. But Kyle handles it great and I wish them the best and you know, I don't think this legal see the last of them though. Here's an update from her head coach about Deebo Samuel and what it will take for him to play call in terms of a Deebo Samuel he's going to be practicing today. And then what are you expecting to see from him? And what does he have to do to prove that he's going to be able to play Sunday night for you. I mean, he's healthy. So we just want to see him out there and get back in the swing of playing football. It's been a while since he has I know he's been working hard on his own with football and everything with our trainers and off and everyone else and three have but you know, we just need to see em go through three days and what type of shape he's in and if you can protect himself will be out there also found cash-in-hand talks about if there is a quarterback controversy after Nick Mullens good play last week. This is some out there on social media, but all on the question it is mine this month. Serial exists, you know whether Jimmy's out for one or two more games and which Nick Mullens is so impressive that you could win the starting job. No, that's ninja exist, but I don't think that's one game either. So that's where you to do, but this is Jimmy steam. He's done a hell of a job for us and when he's healthy he'll be planning it, but also address your default is going on with our at the end of the week, and that is it for your 49er news. Please check out our main shown our favorite radio audio tube and where you can get your podcast. Also, don't forget to eat your friends to our marriage at ww.w. If you have a radio.com forward slash job. Thanks to and as always remain faithful. Goodbye.

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Good Morning Niner Empire 10/06/2020

Niner Faithful Radio

10:21 min | 4 months ago

Good Morning Niner Empire 10/06/2020

"Hey everyone, this is Jamie from Good Morning Niner Empire from 9 or 5th or radio.com. Let me tell you about graphic Munger. They're keeping your business are going extinct take a turn your ideas into reality with their graphic design team there your source for custom logo designs apparel decals and more. Don't wait any longer and call graphic Monger at 360-460-8526 regarding Facebook and look them up at at graphic monger. And if you mentioned our net sales for radio, you'll get a discount. So please go check them out. All right, let's get back to the office. Turn off. Good morning for another Empire. My name is Jimmy. Today is October 6th 2020 off. This could into some 49er news on Sunday. The Forty Niners lost to the Philadelphia Eagles. Twenty five to twenty in a rough game. Here is an injury update from Kyle Shanahan. All right guys and read stuff from last name Ziggy towards by step. He'll have surgery is going on IR later this week. Brett hand should be fined kawann knee sprain is going to be out a few weeks. Most likely IR Pettis has some nice soreness. Hope to get him back practice in Wednesday. As far as the other guys who didn't play in the game. You got Garoppolo Greenlaw moja it in Witherspoon. Hope to get them back Wednesday. We'll see and James it's possibly returning from IR. Kyle also gives an update on the back to be deaf after Nick Mullens terrible game on Sunday. Big guy I realize this is this question is a hundred and eighty degrees from the questions. You're asked last week about Nick but do you have any reason thought about changing the the rotation of quarterbacks or the depth chart of quarterbacks is Nick still ahead of CJ or is that something that you're going to work through this week something to work through this week? I'm still not sure about Jimmy just finished with the players about 30 minutes ago. So I don't really know what we'll do on Wednesday. I'll have a plan by then, but haven't talked it over the children also talks about the running scheme and that and tons were having effectively running the ball she from your run game so far and just in terms of trying to maybe find that consistency, how do you how do you think it can be better? I mean, you know, we've missed a whole big place, you know since the Jets game which is you know, when you lose so explosives, you gotta be a lot more consistent a lot more consistent and our consistency just has not been good, you know. The last night I think it's pretty obvious had a few chances and you just you got one guy with and ends up being a negative play. We're pretty aggressive in our Run game by what we do the way we try to attack people and when you do that if you're off on you lose yards so you can get a lot simpler and keep make it easier to where you're trying to block it for, you know, 122 yards and just see what happens. Hope you can wear guys down over the game. I've always been pretty aggressive when you do that and you got one guy off here and there you get some negative runs and when you don't have an explosive to counteract that that's really Kyle also discusses a line issue. Kyla was an overall challenging for your offensive line all together other. Can you put your fingerprint finger on what exactly went wrong or where they're just different things can be going into the game. I mean that's just got turn on the tape and watch how their d-line plays if you can't stay balanced and be in good situations. I mean that D lines going to tee off and I think you know, when a number of plays the number of runs that we did miss, you know, we got in some bad when we got into first and twenty after missing a run then we got the holding call to make it worse when you get in those situations behind the chains whether you're running or passing and they're teeing off licking their chops. I mean, it's a very tough situation you gotta offset on with, you know, some play-action some Keepers and stuff and when we did do that, we didn't make him pay and when you don't make them pay in the Run game, usually those papers and play actions aren't there either so they kind of go hand-in-hand and on the times we did have a chance. We we just missed it. And then that kind of led into the game that you guys saw we had to answer early with that stuff at home. To make him pay on a couple of things you make them think about a few other things and they got to cover a lot more but we miss those and make them worry about much and they teed off and when that d-line T's off he talks about what a tackle Mike mcglinchey needs to clean up Mike mcglinchey in particular seems to be struggling through the first quarter of the Season not playing up to the standard. He set the first couple of years in the league. What are his issues right now? I mean, I think Mike has looked at as good of a camp as he's had here in his third year. So I mean I was real excited my going into the season. I don't think that he has planned as bad as a Baptist. I think when you has had some bad plays it is looked at and they'll stick out all the time with an alignment and he said too many of those in a game you take away those I do think he's done a lot of things better and Mike's played at a high level here for two years. And I think there's a lot of parts of Mike's game that is a lot better at this year than he has been in the past but you get towards the end of the game there and some of the and the two minutes situations and he had some bad luck in place which stick out and that's part of the old Lyman but by no means are they I think he's had a step back. We just have to clean up some stuff. He's got to be a little more efficient throughout the game because he has gone better, but that doesn't matter when you have a few bad ones and it's the same the quarterback to if you can play hell of a game and you throw a few pics and that's what stick he talks about his decision to go for the onside kick on Sunday. Best behind going for an onside kick there just before the 2-minute warning and why not go for a Touchback on that kickoff. I was going to I totally planned on going back to touch back when we scored with 209, you know, we're sitting there. I called the play that we're going to go for two on and I was sitting there saying all right, I'm going to kick it off. It's 209 so we'll get the two men and we have our time out so we should get back with good field position, but then when they reviewed it and they took the touchdown away and then we scored and was at 2:02 then I was worried about it. I changed my mind cuz I thought if we kick out that the only way of getting it passed it to him in the morning would be to kick it out the end zone. I thought if we would have kicked it and then so on regardless I know what I would have told them they better run it out cuz they running out they didn't have to worry about the two-minute warning. I lost all that and then we ended up maybe losing a chance. So once it went to 202 that kind of thought process is off. I was still shocked that we able to kick it on sidekick and get it to stop at 2:01, which was nice job. But yeah, totally doing that before when I was at 2:09 and then changed my mind. He also talks about when Raheem mostert and Richard Sherman will return for my our team has a possibility for Wednesday how optimistic you about him for this week. And we see the explosive plays and and the speed he has obviously but but how much does he impact you from a from a plane calling perspective having him available. I mean regime is done unbelievable job. So I mean he he affects everything when he's out there. I mean just the way his explosiveness. I don't think there's anyone in the league that you can compare to him right now and that show ninja you know, both of the week said you gotta play in I think our backs done a great job since he's been out of the you know, Jed McKinnon has been running his tail off running very physical. He's created a lot of thoughts on some stuff hasn't been there. But, you know, we can't wait to get ringback will see on Wednesday. I mean, I'm not I'm not real optimistic, but I know he does have a chance Wednesday and it'll give birth. More each day that goes in the week, but we got to wait to see how it comes in then. Excuse me, as far as the status of Sherman. Is he hears? What is your confidence level that he can practice Wednesday play Sunday probably about the same as rahim's, you know, not real high on either but I know they do have a chance, you know, initially I was told Sharon would be about 3 to 4 weeks and I think we're coming up on three and it was most likely supposed to be for so kind of expecting them for next week, but it'd be a good surprise to get him this week and talking to Sharon. There's always a chance but we're gonna have to wait and see how he is on and that's what he discusses what the team to do against mobile QB's. I was there anything schematically that needs to be adjusted when you guys play or face mobile quarterbacks going forward. Yes. Definitely you always gotta just that but adjusting it does not get the results done. You know, we got about we got that ran out of twice before. I thought we executed a correctly the third time we did a right and we were right there. I think it was in the third quarter Winston dead. Making us miss a little bit. But at least we had two guys there to make the tackle. So it's just you always gotta make those adjustments and be ready for it. I was just a little disappointed. We didn't hit the first time something. We're trying to execute a month throughout the weekend and we got to make sure we do a better job of coaching it throughout the week and getting out of our players. So when it happens the first time we shut it down and don't need to wait for the next time. All right. Thanks folks. Thank you guys, and that is it for your 49er news, please check out our main show tonight or favorite radio on YouTube and where you can listen to your podcast. Also. Don't forget to check out our orange to our marriage at ww.w. For radio.com. Thanks, and as always remain faithful. off off

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Niner Faithful Radio 49ers vs Eagles Review

Niner Faithful Radio

24:34 min | 3 months ago

Niner Faithful Radio 49ers vs Eagles Review

"What's up, y'all at Sheboygan are faithful. How is everybody doing? Hope everyone had a legendary week? Oh boy, you know yeah, that was the rough one. But you know, of course we're going to break it down for you on the way that nine people radio can what's up Jamie? How you doing? So I have no idea. Oh, okay guy was a perfect time for my Blitz indeed an update. But So for anybody that doesn't know the Niners lost it sucked. Hello, Jamie. Hello Kim. How're you doing? So I promised her that I would that I would do it bring Jason not a game. So I have to make special announcement before the show started your boy didn't wise off and finally made the decision to make it official between me and Ken so ladies and gentlemen say hello to the Missus your girl Niner faithful everybody say hi. But like I promised her I'd make the announcement on the show. So there you go, baby. So sorry ladies your boys off the market shut up boy over there. 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That is Graphix m o n g are also we are working with our people down at boss boss man's Pizza over on the corner of Capitol Expressway and park in San Jose. That would be 418 West Capitol Expressway. Go ahead and tell them that 9 or fifty radio sent you off. We've kind of agreed to see how it's going to go and and it possibly thought about sponsoring the podcast. So go ahead and go down there and tell them that night or faithful red radio sent you they're great faithful. They give excellent service and not only do they serve burgers sandwiches, you know, your typical Pizza food beers. I you know like your boy, but yeah, you know the scene makes me drink y'all. I'm sorry. But now that we got the oh yes also. Before we get out of here. I want we're not getting out of here today, but we are going to announce that we officially have announced our second design for that are faithful radio shops exclusive club with our red is for royalty gold is for Glory T Sports. Now there are available in and and woman short sleeves, but we will be getting hoodies and long sleeves very very very soon. We also would like to thank Graphics longer for giving us the design so I'm getting into today. You know, I think it's very clear that You know, we saw why Nick Mullens was our backup quarterback. I mean, I don't have the statistics with me. You know, your war was busy trying to work out sponsors, but you know, we I mean, I think we really saw why Nick Mullens is our backup quarterback today, or at least he just looked off. I mean I called KNBR post game show and they disagreed with me but I don't care what they say and Nick Mullens came out flat the team came out flat. I want to hear about how the eagle talented. I don't want to hear about their d-line. You know, they were just clearly off today, you know, and I think this is a concern this is happened every time we've come back from a two-game East Coast Road Trip. It happened last year against Pittsburgh and against Atlanta now against Pittsburgh, we're able to pull out the win obviously against that we were not dead. This year we were not it's not to say that we shouldn't be taking over back to back east coast trips. I like the idea. Especially this season where it gave us a little bit more of a oxygen Vibe track Vibe with the shortened preseason. I think that honestly did help and it helped lead to the, you know, whooping the Giants got but it was just very clear from the beginning then Nichols off. I don't personally think that You know, that means oh my gosh, these your efforts to be our backup quarterback. You know, I had my boy Chris from the 5th down football or 5th down sports package tag me in a post and say hey CJ CJ beathard needs to start next week for y'all I said, how about we have Jimmy Garoppolo back in it doesn't matter. How long back up quarterback is cuz I think like I told people who were you know, jumping off the Nick Mullens is better than Jimmy G cool train. It's okay baby. Come back home. We accept it off, you know, sometimes you you get tempted by evil temptress and they look so good you thinking hey, you know what just might be better than the girl I have now and they're both. You know all of a sudden you find out the reason she was single am I saying that about My Girl My Girl's perfect, but you need to get yourself a sexy 9 or queen like me but so often it's just you know, it's okay come back home and realize when it's our sixth ring and on that day faithful single, Jimmy is King and so, you know, we kind of saw that you know, we did Jimmy Garoppolo but as we we try to obviously take a positive spin here. I am not a Facebook video. So we're going to go ahead and get into some of the bright spots that I thought we had in the game Depot. I mean, he's back good shape. Took his Shady both. Yes, sir. It was so good to see w i t know the field. He only had three catches for 35 yards, but That didn't matter. It was just good to see number 19 on the field that clearly had him on the pitch count. It was really clear that they were going to let him play the whole game first came back. You didn't want him to pull a hammy or aggravating injury. So get get the beginning get his feet wet. I mean the man has a plate while since the Superbowl. So I think it was important to get his feet wet. Obviously kettle corn home. I mean, what can you say about? Yes, Jamie? We're going to go ahead and talk about Brandon. I use touch down here in a second. But I mean what can you say it Accords clearly the best hiding a little league our offense clearly missed him. Yeah it obviously gone past it looked the best but I mean George could go balls-out. That's one manage that you never ever have to sit question. And so it was awesome to see number 85 and our last bites part of the game at least on the job. Defensive side of the ball is Brandon. I uke I mean, she's only had let me see. I have it written down here one rushed for 38 yards touchdown and you catch it for Eighteen with the long the 14c. I want to catch 414 one catch for 4 yards, but that touchdown I mean ladies and gentlemen my new page him for Brandon. It's no longer be a jump man. Because you know, I I put on my drink face like Jumpman Jumpman Jumpman Jumpman. I mean, it's very clear that ended are you off is the real deal Holyfield ladies and gentlemen of the Niner Empire? I mean, what do we say? The man is amazing. This is only his second NFL game or sorry Thurs FL game. You know, yes, yes, let's get the ball of the bar 11:00 some more and definitely definitely great to see I just don't know how to describe. I mean that must that might have been one of the coolest awesome touchdowns. I've seen in my life. I mean, I'm pretty sure that there's honesty is Jerry has that 100 the one where he reached out and grabbed it with one hand while running and ran it into the endzone. I'm pretty much almost everyone at Jerry Rice touchdown was a highlight touchdown, but I mean, it's nice to be able to mention a rookie in his third NFL game to be able to mention be mentioned to go in as far as any to do with nine month history or anything is is amazing definitely definitely love and some Brandon. Are you Now we have to get into the negatives, you know that nobody likes to get into it, but we got to I mean the offensive line, you know, I'm not going to hit. Hey on my big boys up front as myself playing offensive defensive line and my very very limited High School football career. That no offense of line to me is one of the hardest positions to play and and the football field. I mean you're you're constantly you're getting contact every play and it's one that very few positions on the football field that you're guaranteed to get very violent food. There's a player matter if it's a run a past whatever it is offensive line off every single play and that I took my capsule but you know, we have to be honest here on the show and the offensive line did not play great and it's really needs to be a concern considering that who we have coming to the field of jeans and two weeks, you know for game, you know with that scene from down south. I'm trying to not to cuss on the show, but we all know I hate the Rams but so It's it's a concern, you know, and it's not a guarantee that Weston Richburg Richburg is going to come back and also be a hundred percent mean the Man Poor is potentially send it and I mean that's not an injury. You just walk off and everything is Lottie. Just fine. I mean, you know, and he's got no training camp. So he's obviously going to have some real life. So it's it's a knockoff. Yeah, that's a concern. I think it's very clear that we could start to say that although I love writing skills. Well, he is not a guard he's and the Niners are doing a disservice by playing in mcgard. But of course, I agree. I mean who else you're going to go get, you know, I'm almost I'm a firm believer of everybody's replaceable. Just who are you going to go get the replaced it? I don't think there are guards that will step in and play and just as well as long as you know, or better than Daniel Paschal. Right off the street, you know, the man knows the system would know the system better. I mean, it's pretty much Brandon Daniel. Bryan skills are are starting Right Guard. Come hell or high water Trent Williams. You know, I'm not going to get too hard. Yeah, Jason, we're going to go ahead and talk about my life in a second. I'm not going to rag on Trent Williams to order me. Let's be real he's he's probably one of the best tax but on the red and gold. I think that's very clear to see that that if he plays a couple of Seasons he can be one of the month alignment in team history now overall career wise just because I'm sorry a couple of Seasons not going to replace the thirteen year career of Joe Staley, but whose profile whose number I will leave off as My profile picture all all season long because Joe is clearly the goat as far as left tackles are concerned in team history. But you know, he did have a bad game the whole team had a bad game and so he deserves to get you know highlighted as as having a poor game. I think it was just a blip and I think it's it's coming back from a long road trip. They talk about it all the time and hot key basket basketball and even baseball you come back from a long road trip and that first came home is usually a little sluggish. So I'm pretty sure he'll bounce back and have even a better game and I'm not worried about number 71 on the left side now to get to Jason's Point might be blind. She Oh boy. I love big Mike. But this is starting to be a concern. You know, I don't know if it's missing Joe Staley and it's something in his head. I personally think they shot this down again on on the game be our post game show, but I think they're smoking rocks because it's clear Mike mcglinchey is too skinny. I mean, he just doesn't seem to have the power. I mean he's getting bullrest right into the the back and I mean he wasn't the world's greatest pass in France protection, you know, the last two seasons, but it's clearly starting to be an issue in a concern and you know, somebody needs to get that man some cheeseburgers and you know what honestly I think that Joe Staley needs to come and sit down and have a talk with him and maybe work with him a little bit after practice or something. You know, Joe of course would do something like that with the team, you know, cuz Jones just not type of guy but it's clear that there's something needs to be done about Mike mcglinchey because you know are dead. game, which of course are is struggling is so reliant on our tackles and our so reliant on our tackles and our tight ends, you know George Kittle in this post game presser mentioned. George Kittle mentioned about him and Mike mcglinchey and Trent Williams all by name that need to be player Jason. I was young. I am wondering about him having an injury does not being disclosed that he was fine. So, you know, that wouldn't be surprised if he was dealing with little something something that the team, you know doesn't want to make a big deal about but that could be very possible because he just did not look like himself. He was whipping on blocks. I mean either. A holding penalty. I mean, he just simply did not look like like Trent Williams and You know there has to be something. I mean, maybe it's just a bad game. I think Trent Williams is going to be fine. Like I said, but yeah, I mean basically was not himself on Sunday and obviously saw the issues that it caused. Nick Mullens was under heavy duress all game. So and I mean this goes back to this little statistic of the week that got the Niners had given up 40 quarterback hits most allowed in the league. That is crazy. That is way too many hits. You cannot have your quarterback taking that many hits. This definitely needs to be shown up this week. If Jimmy Garoppolo plays which I'm expecting that Jimmy Garoppolo plays dead. Oh, okay. Sorry. Jason was referring to Mike mcglinchey. Yeah, you know what? Maybe maybe Mike mcglinchey is hurt. You know that I actually hope that the beat reporters asked Kyle shender that hand that when he gets to the booth tomorrow. I'm hoping that they asked him. He I hope they ask him if it's something that he's dealing with cuz he clearly as himself either. He has not been the world's best pass-blocker, but he is clearly gotten worse in Plattsburgh walking. I don't really care what guys that and says, why care, of course, we gotta stand and says, but I don't know and Shanahan we trust but yeah, I mean it's not looking so good Kyle so fine, you know we trust you. But yeah. So we're going to go to go the team has released Mohammed Faisal that is kind of a little interesting tidbit off an ounce today kind of coming out of the blue. I hadn't heard anything about that. But I think that they clearly didn't like what they saw and with Deebo coming back. I think he was Expendable. I saw your post on nine or faithful radios Facebook page and group Jason that you know your question of so we're getting rid of this the new and bringing. Say Pettis. I think that has everything to do with Dante Pettis being a second-round pick personally. I'm not saying that that's the smartest decision but they should be seeing something in him in practice. So she's not coming out to the games, but You know, it's he was never a great pass-blocker. His run-blocking was a to cheer any fairly decent at that now, yeah, it definitely my my girl and she is a concern Jason, but Mom she knew was released. I think let's also give props to Jet. I mean he have 14 carries 454 yards seven receptions for 43 yards. And I think it's clear that he warned down towards the end of the game and he's definitely not our bell-cow, which is okay. We don't need them to be our bell-cow where he most heard is quote-unquote bell-cow this team, even though we all know that the Niners like to rotate running backs, but definitely a big props to jet So I think that's so we gave up 15 hits the game, which is the most sense week 5 versus Arizona and 2018 where we gave up 16 quarterback hit and CJ beathard was our quarterback. I am concerned with the both of the Superbowl and you know, it seemed more recently that we're getting away from these wide receiver runs. They seem to be working a great and I'm not understanding you simply just go away from them in the second half. I don't know if it was something that the Eagles did to take that away. But I believe I have like to see more Jets off the reverses with Deebo and Brandon. Are you I understand you were having Depot on a pitch count, but you know definitely get the bowling of Brendan I use hands more often so long. I think the key to victory for this upcoming week is going to be getting Jimmy G. Go back to Niners are 21 and 7 in game started by Jimmy Garoppolo and there are twenty one Five and Twenty One says 2017 and game started off with somebody other than number 10 under I think that you're going to see a lot of these teams woes not all of them. But some of them a lot of them you're going with these teams woes. Start to mysteriously dissipate once we get number 10 under Center. We're going to go ahead and I think we're going to call it a wrap for Today Show, but I would like to remind everybody to get their revenge tour 2020 G available exclusively at 9 or Fayetteville radio shop links are in this is a leak is in the description. Make sure to check out Jamie doing a fantastic job today. Good morning on Empire our new daily Monday Tuesday through Saturday 9 or Morning Show, you know, just listen to it catch up on your night or news like Drinking Your Juice cup coffee the link in the description for today's episode. And of course big shout-out to Graphics mongers again longer again for Sponsoring this show we are also going ahead and thank you for putting that link page and the comments so him will be putting all the links in the comments for everybody as well because she's so wonderful. Thank y'all and before we get out of here actually got one more thing. I want to give we're going to start on losses since we don't do the kettle corn MVP of the week for the Bam Bam defensive player of the week. We are going to go ahead and start with the offensive defensive players to have hope you know our reason to have hope we're going to go ahead and come up with a better name for it. But I like to say our reason for hope this week Thursday right at I looked amazing. I like to say our defensive Reason for Hope is can we give a round of applause ladies and gentlemen? Can we give a round of applause for Sikorsky tart? We seem to have except for week 9 against the C Brewster's the she roosters. Yes last week or last year. He had the game of his life. He was all over the Peel Field and Tchaikovsky chart looked amazing. And that's why I'm having hope for this week. Remember ever won the San Francisco 49ers will always lose a game. But when they do, we're still the best team in NFL history say faithful my friends Faith love and happiness going on. Well, my bad one more thing for super duper moderator. Miss is not her faithful for Jamie Jason. We would like to thank you for tuning into this week's wage. So so then Faith love and happiness. Go Niners.

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2020 Week 9 (Part 1)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

29:18 min | 2 months ago

2020 Week 9 (Part 1)

"It's time to eat pretty hungry for sit down and get ready to consume in abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Ross Tucker and Joe Dolan now wage on the fantasy Feast eatin podcast. Yeah, let's eat baby. It is the fantasy Feast eatin podcast and it is presented by fantasy points. Where you use the code feast and get more information for the value for the money than I've ever seen anywhere in my life. So long even know where no matter where you are with your fantasy team this year GFS wedding stuff season-long Dynasty. They even IDP guy they have an injury. So no matter what it is that you're into. I mean, it's crazy how much information they have a fantasy points.com. Just make sure you use the code Feast that way they know that song. I sent you cuz I want them to know I send you use the code peace and to see points.com code fees. I'm Ross Tucker former NFL offensive lineman, five teams. Seven years journeyman. Now, I got five podcasts. I do over seven days even money podcast is already posted at the sports betting one college draft podcast where we are now picking the college games against spread, which is fun Ross Tucker football podcast, of course is daily and this year fantasy Feast podcast the show. That's so nice. We do it twice down. My co-host is the star Joe Dolan. The number one ranked fantasy analysts in the Galaxy according to fantasypros.com over the what Joe the last three years five years. I forget the sample size. It was it was it was four years entering entering the 2019 season 4 years and during the 2020 season, excuse me. Sorry Ross, like like most of the country my brain is dead. What we eat fried today, so I'm I'm getting absolutely nothing done. But let's let's talk football get a distraction out there. Yeah, let's try man. Let's try he is at f g underscore goal. And that's at fun guide. Underscore Dolan. I'm at Ross Tucker NFL and at Ross Tucker pod is where you can find this show and all of our great Social Media stuff our social club. We post youtube.com NFL you look a little tired Joe you look a little red tape this morning. I am I am exhaust. I always have a red face though. I have a dive rosy-cheeked wage, but I am exhausted. All right. Well, listen, there's a lot we need to get too. It's kind of crunch time fantasy football the games and November are the games you remember and they make a big difference for a fantasy and we got a lot when you talk about just in the opener in the third game Joe. I mean Niners Packers diners have a zillion injuries and now they have off. Kendrick Bourne has govind so hopefully the game still gets played tomorrow night. The Packers have covid-19 shoes at running back. I mean it might be the game. We have to spend the most time on Joe. Let's let's find out what we should do with the skill guys for both these teams and who are replacement should be her guy like George Kittle. Yeah. Well, there's obviously an issue here with with not even knowing if this games going to be played only it's still on a schedule but as you know, positive tests can pop up and that's and that is a bad thing, you know, it could come up to date of the game and then obviously the games going to have to be moved but let's talk about this means for the 49ers Kendrick Bourne was expected to play and he was expected likely to start alongside Brandon. I used with Nick Mullens at quarterback now given all the injuries that they have my friend Chet Gresham of dead Kings Point into this out with Kendrick Bourne testing positive for the virus. The the green the San Francisco 49ers do not have a dog. Single player available for this game who touched the ball on offense in the NFC championship game last year. That is unbelievable. Not one the the Ricky most often Kevin Coleman out George Kittle Al Deebo Samuel Al Kendrick born out Jimmy Garoppolo out. So the 49ers right now are in a world of hurt Ross a world of her life with Nick Mullens. What I expect they're going to do is try to run the football and you saw Green Bay get crushed on the ground by the 49ers in the NFC title game last year. You saw him get crushed on the ground by the by the Minnesota Vikings. I think this is a big game for Jermichael Hasty and Alvin and and Jerick McKinnon. It's I think it's a big game for those guys from Brandon. I might struggle if you draw Shadow covered from jaire Alexander and also keep an eye on a status of Jordan Reed who might be able to come back and play this week. Remember he got had some big games earlier in the season when George cuddle with her earlier in the season, but this is there is no doubt about it. The Forty Niners are in, New Jersey. Absolute World hurt. So four people that had kidal Joe are there any tight ends out there that they could pick up or they could stream? Yeah. Well, I mean Jordan Reed is one of them. Maybe you could get Robert tonyan from this game as well. Heck if you are desperate, maybe you can even get Jace sternberger from this game because because of the the Packers issues with the wide receiver position, they've been getting the tight ends a little involved. So I think that's something you might be able to do simply from this game. But if you're really out there looking Logan Thomas from Washington is coming off of this coming off a bye this week. So he might be somebody who's out there as well. What about for the Packers and they're running back situation? Yeah, it's a nightmare right now because obviously the AJ Dillon tested positive for the virus. So they had to walk them all Williams put him on the covid-19 because he was a close contact. He's going to be out again presuming this game is played tomorrow. So the question now becomes can Aaron Jones play through his calf injury if he can't play the backfield going to be Tyler Ervin and Dexter Williams and I was reading today match Tiedeman from the athletic talking about what those guys do. Well Urban is much more of a scatback type. He's not big they run like five streams. He's more of a returned man. Meanwhile Dexter Williams. He's more of your traditional running back but schneidman has said he has struggled to catch the football and practice and on top of that he blew a block that led to a block punked last week. So they don't trust him in pass-pro or as a receiver. So they've never really hurting there at the position again, if this game stays as is they might not be dead. The play Aaron Jones, but they also might not have a choice but to play Aaron Jones. So if I had to pick one of these guys presuming Jones doesn't play my preference would be for urban. Got it. Okay. Keep an eye on the status of that one was hard as well. By the way, Matt LaFleur said this week. He thinks was artist close to coming back from his core muscle injury. Oh, okay interesting. Very interesting. All right, let's get to some of this Sunday 1:00 games will start with the Giant and George Washington. You know, I am not sure his fantasy worthy Joe. I think Wayne gallman looks decent. Yeah computer has you know, he's one of those guys the Goldman when he came out of college, I as a prospect I was like, you know, he's not flashy but he does all he does all the things that he does well or pretty obvious he runs hard he pass protects and he catches the football. Those are the things he does. Well so he can get he can get it done a little bit there and and frankly, I mean, I don't know what maybe they go back to Devonte Freeman if Devonta Freeman's available, but I consider gallman kind of a dog. when Darby to if Devonta Freeman doesn't go anything else for the Giants or else Washington Sterling Shepard has kind of taken over in my mind. The number one fantasy receiver here off over Darius Slayton Daniel Jones has I think at times he's looked real. He's almost like Carson Wentz right now, you know you watch the plays where he doesn't make a completely boneheaded turn over. Okay, this guy looks pretty good. And then the other plays it looks like he's actively trying to turn the football over. So Daniel Jones is not not really a fantasy option right now. Washington's defense is pretty good though on the back end they are exploitable. I think throwing Shepherds a wide receiver three and given the state of the tight end position, even though he hasn't produced Big Numbers Evan engram I think is like second in in tight end targets. He's probably thought you just have to have in your lineup at this stage moving on Washington coming off of the body. I didn't do anything at the trade deadline, you know, it's weird cuz they've got McClure. Logan Thomas Antonio Gibson, I mean they've got some guys that are worth at least talking about. Yeah, they do Antonio Gibson is an rb2 all the way. He's got some physicality to them. I think that's something you expected from a guy who was a converted wide receiver, but he absolutely has some physicality to him. So Antonio Gibson's him a running back to Kyle Allen probably not on the streaming radar Terry McCormick catch a shadow from James Bradberry in this game. That's a problem for him. And again, like I said Logan Thomas coming off by he's there kind of their de facto. Number two receiver here Rob Gronkowski scored a touchdown against the Giants and not to compare Logan Thomas to Rob Gronkowski, but I think that Logan Thomas is somebody who you can plug and play use for DFS. I think he's going to be somebody who could get seven eight targets from from Los Alamos you Okay, anything else on Washington or can we move on let's move on Chicago, Tennessee Javon Wims suspended. I know he was going to be an oil change line up this week on whims suspended they cut Ted Ginn jr. What do you have for me for the barriers against a bad Titans defense like a a really good defense that is really struggled. What I have is Allen Robinson is in your lineup. I mean that that's for sure. I know it's like pulling teeth. Sometimes Nick Foles hasn't played particularly well, but you put down in your lineup Jimmy Graham is a lower-end tight end that you can consider but I mean look at what they did Javon Wims get suspended. They still cut Ted Ginn off. What does that tell you about their faith and Darnell Mooney the rookie wide receiver. I mean, Nick Foles loves the guy that go down the field. This guy is it's like a wide receiver three at this point. He's got that kind of upside down. And again with all the covin couple of teams on by you might be searching for a wide receiver three. So Darnell Muniz somebody who's out there on your waiver wire who you can consider picking up and plugging into your lineup. Let me just get the the target number for Darnell Mooney right now. I mean, he's somebody who's gotten at least five Targets in six consecutive games. This is a fifth-round rookie wide receiver. Nick Foles really likes throwing to him and and in the backfield David Montgomery quite frankly looks better to me last week. That means looked maybe in his entire career. So he's he's a white running back to even though he gets the Army one volume. He's running that to age. On the other side Titans disappointing performance Against The Bangles without even think of them. I think they're past game is is unfortunately, I mean, this is a tougher match up and I think their past game is going to step up a little bit more than it did last week. Fortunately. You got the touchdown from AJ Brown. I thought he was going to have a huge game. Maybe the weather was a bigger Factor than we thought it might be in that game. But obviously here's the here's the thing with the Titans we talk about these narrow fantasy teams. You want to play Ryan Tannehill for the most part you want to play Derrick Henry. Obviously AJ Brown is in a lineup. Now Corey Davis has established himself as a wide receiver three, you can play he's had a couple of huge games this year. The one guy I'm concerned about is it's now three straight weeks with jonnu Smith, even though he's had some injuries not producing that's a little bit of a concern for me. Although sometimes I think you just might have to eat it with John who Smith because there's really not a whole lot of options at the title. Position and back to Corey Davis. He has a hundred yards of touchdown or both in four of his five games this year and in the game where he didn't have a hundred yards for a touchdown or both off by passes for 69 yards. That's somebody you can put in your lineup as a wide receiver 3 with a pretty good degree of confidence each and every week. Wow. Yeah, I mean everybody I mean Brown was going to be guy Corey Davis gonna come out of nowhere. Yeah. I mean, he's your brother has had a big year to don't get me wrong. But Corey Davis, this is a contract here for him. He's doing a nice job. Detroit is at Minnesota lions at the Vikings and holy crap Dalvin cook want some games for people last week? Yeah, David Cook was a slate breaker. That's what we say in DFS when somebody when somebody just you're not going to win money without them. That's what Dalvin cook was. He's a special player. I mean that that's what it is. Mike Zimmer came out this week and said we want to be a run-first team and I everything that that he has done in his career suggest that true. I have no reason to not believe that and Detroit last week got absolutely shredded On The Ground by the Cults. The problem was it wasn't Jonathan Taylor. It was Jordan Wilkins that did it. So I would anticipate this to be a massive Dalvin cook game and when you're playing the Lions, you know, I also give a big numbers in the passing game as well. You saw Philip Rivers do that. Her cousins is on the streaming radar and you just have to suck it up and play feeling in Jefferson. What about the lines on the other side? Yeah, this is a this is interesting. They they aren't seen intent on shooting themselves in the foot. They run them on first-and-ten so much with Adrian Peterson and they never gained any yardage doing it. It puts them in a whole it puts Matthew Stafford in a bad spot. And now they have to play this game against Minnesota wage without Kenny. Golladay. He's not going to go. So Marvin Jones is is a wide receiver three, I would hope that they decide this. All right, we've got to get Beyond race with the ball to try to cross explosive plays without Marvin Jones. I don't see it man without Kenny golladay. And here's the thing. I think they're going to go into a shell and I think they're just going to try to run the ball down the throats of the Minnesota Vikings. The problem is that has not worked with Detroit this year. The guy who is really starting to step up though is TJ Hawkinson. Yeah, he's been he's been good Carolina is at Kansas City Carolina going into defense. I think can be had a little bit. What do you think of what the Panthers to put out there? Well, Christian McCaffrey is practicing this week. It looks like he is going to be back that is good news for the Carolina Panthers. I would anticipate he gets a full-blown workload wage Kansas City will see what Mike Davis's role is, but obviously you have to put Mike Davis on your bench and if you have Christian McCaffrey, you've been holding on to him for this long you put them in your lineup Teddy Bridgewater is a stream where the quarterback this week. I life more and Robby Anderson is wide receiver twos and a potential high scoring game and a guy to keep an eye out for is somebody they've started to get the ball in his hands. If you need a wide receiver this week running the football long pants or short passes. They've been getting the ball in the hands of Curtis Samuel. Yeah, man, Carolina's got a lot of fantasy dudes for a team. It's three and five and lost a couple of games. What about I think here the city is kind of the same story every week. Is there anything new to discuss off the problem is last week and and this is what we didn't anticipate Ross what we didn't anticipate and and we I should have known this is so dumb. The Jets were a pass filter defense. They've much easier to throw on than run on this year. And every time you see in the NFL such a lopsided spread, you know in the NFL ten points is a lopsided spread. That was a 20 point spread. You're like, oh that teams just going off the ball and no Kansas City is like look, they're easier to throw on the Jets are than to run on we're going to throw the ball Patrick Mahomes those five touchdown passes me. Call Harmons gotten off a little bit. We got to check the status of Sammy Watkins. Those are some of the secondary guys that you can get in your lineup Edwards aware though. I have a feeling they're going to run the ball a little bit more this week and Edwards alarm continues to be a better job. 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You know, this is a guy in Jake Luton who I know are Guy Greg Cosell likes quite a bit and I'm sure you'll talk about him with with with Greg but they they open up the offense. That's good news for DJ Chark. I'm probably going to be a little bit leery of going all out on the Jaguar passing game, but I'm going to put DJ Chark in my line up as a wide receiver three, even though he had been a pretty significant downgrade but the guy you keep rolling with his James Robinson who unbelievably has been the fantasy Rookie of the Year through half this season. That's far. So, it's DJ Chark, it's James Robinson. That's kind of where I'm at with with the Jacksonville Jaguars Joe. What about Houston on the other side? They still have will Fuller. Yeah, they do. They could not agree with the deal to the with the Packers on compensation and look. This is a great great matchup. If if you want the the Houston Texan passing game. I think you can double stack this passing game. A fast according to football Outsiders the Jacksonville Jaguars had the League's worst pass defense by dvoa. So this is a basically they're dvoa says their pass defense is nearly 40% off the average pass defense in the NFL will Fuller Brandin Cooks even Randall Cobb, and obviously DeShaun Watson are among the best plays with the entire week. Looking forward very much to Baltimore and Indianapolis Ravens and the Colts we talked about it last week about the Ravens offense being a little off Joe. They were able to run game going. It was just Lamar Jackson's turnovers that killed him, but they finally really got that run game turning the other words of all teams. Yeah, and I wonder if like they were just being a little bit cute Ross with the three man running back rotation. Like, you know, like I thought maybe just working in marketing grown men working in Dobbins and working in Edwards and none of them are getting into a rhythm wage seems like this year every time Dobbins has touched the football he's gained like Twenty Yards and I don't understand why they're not giving them the bomb or maybe that game is a little bit of a wake-up call, but the fact of the matter is the March X is not throwing football very well and not you know, he's not offsetting it enough with his legs to be an elite elite fantasy option that you drafted him to be. I'm not telling you you don't start Lamar Jackson, but he is he has no job In the elite option that you expect him to be mostly because he's not throwing the ball very well. And you saw Hollywood Brown's comments after the game on Twitter. Why do you have these soldiers? If you're not going to use them? That's what he said soldiers actually Soulja S. I kind of went to Hollywood. I mean, I don't know what's going on with this past game. But Greg Roman, maybe the offensive line and it sold them down Ronnie Stanley on IR just a just a bad bad offense for Baltimore right now. Nobody's saying they're done. They're 5 to but this is another tough match up for Baltimore office. I'm considering Dobbins and Gus Edwards presuming marketing room doesn't play kind of an rb2 and then an rb3 Dobbins and our be too and and Edwards and rb3 Hollywood Brown is a follow-up receiver. This point Market a Mark Andrews is not getting it done the way you want them to and you kind of just have to keep starting all these guys though because the the dearth of options that you have else part. What about on the other side with the Colts? Well, there's one thing you have to talk about with with Indianapolis. By the way, T Y Hilton is not practicing recording this on Wednesday. He's not practicing today. He's been useless for fantasy is is but the thing the focus for the Colts has to be backfield. What's going on with Jonathan Taylor. Jordan Wilkins comes out was the hot hand and Frank Reich was like we're going to ride the hot hand. That was Jordan Wilkins. That was Nineteen and that's problematic. That is hugely problematic. So Jordan Wilkins 19 Hines, I think these guys are Flex options at best. But Jonathan Taylor is a low-end rb2 right now Frank Reich said, he might have been playing to an ankle injury. I'm not really sure what the heck's going on. But this is an ugly three-man rotation in that backfield and Jonathan Taylor has not ceased that backfield the way we thought he was going What about Kaden's receivers and you mentioned to you I yeah t y is going to be out. I mean, I guess he can take a shot on Zach Pascal Michael Pittman played last week, but unfortunately, it's not really a situation where I'm comfortable using one of these or by the way Michael Pittman conscience one pass for 6 yards despite playing 58% of the snaps. So it wasn't a great game for him the receiver. I probably feel best about for the Colts and I mean this is very very narrow is Mo alie-cox the tight end but he's just a low-end tight and start you can take a shot on Trey Burton as well. They've been running some Wildcat with him but this is an ugly passing game at least in terms of use and Philip Rivers was played pretty well. Right, right. Okay Seattle at Buffalo, but the bills ran the ball better than they have all year. Seahawks defense actually was a little bit better. What do you think? Yeah, the Seahawks game. Carol says we're getting there we're getting there defensively and it had been awful but it has gotten a little bit better in Buffalo a struggling a little bit. So I'm I'm still a little curious what's going on with the bills in the passing game. However, like you said they ran the ball really well last week and I think Zack Moss. Hey props to Devin Singletary for also stepping up last week cuz he hasn't had a very good year but I think Zack Moss has shown that he deserves to be a big part of this backfield. I think a moss and and Singletary or both Flex options. And in the passing game you kind of just have to roll with Josh Allen who has been running the ball a little bit more. I didn't think he had a terrible game by any stretch of the imagination a couple of weeks ago. He did not have a good game against the Patriots even though he ran for a touchdown the weather might have been a factor there as well. But Stefon Diggs and frankly Cole Beasley are the two best options in this passing game right now. Seattle on the other side Seattle is as narrow a fantasy team is it gets DK Metcalf as the new Terrell Owens you play Tyler Lockett every week. You play Russell Wilson every week. The only question is and we don't offer us on Wednesday. What is the status of Chris? Carson Carlos Hyde in That backfield DJ Dallas came through for you for Fantasy. He scored two touchdowns, but it wasn't a huge fantasy outing uh off for him. Otherwise, he got me hands on a couple of times, but he didn't look he didn't look even look great, but he got the job done. I like that Joe. I thought the saying I like that comparison a lot D came up is the new Terrell Owens. I kind of I mean because that's what he looks like to me. It's amazing Denver is at Atlanta the Broncos rallied against the Chargers Lindsay was back. How about them from a fantasy? Standpoint Phillip Lindsay man. Let me tell you something. I don't know if I see any teams beat writers going to bat for a guy off. On a more consistent basis than Broncos beat writers go to bat for Phillip Lindsay. They love the guy. He's like the East the heart and soul of a team. They say he creates big place from that 55,000 run really starts parked there really sparked their comeback in that game against the Chargers. Look Phillip. Lindsay is a better player than Melvin Gordon right now, but you have to keep in mind exactly what I'm saying before the season Melvin Gordon was in on those final drives for the Broncos because they view him as the better pass-catcher. He caught six passes in that game against the Chargers. So both of these guys are kind of took me to use for me. They're going to keep running the football keep an eye on the status of Tim Patrick the wide receiver for Denver keep an eye on him because he kind of developed into Drew locks. Go-to-guy wage is obviously a good matchup against Atlanta Jerry jeudy, there's something missing I think lock didn't play well for three quarters and then played well on the 4th. Is that sustainable for lock and he build on that and Noah Fant is a game. I will tell you that in one at this point. On the other side Atlanta Falcons, they show me something in that window over Carolina. Usually a pretty narrow fantasy team where you got? Yeah, Todd Gurley kind of has to be in your lineup at this point, but boy, he is moving like molasses. I mean he is not looking good out there moving so slowly and Brian Hills had some burst to him. I wonder if he's going to play a little bit more. So Todd gurley's a low-end rb2. I'm not saying you can play Brian Hill but just keep that in mind that that he looks like he's got more burst to him than does Todd Gurley. Julio Jones is in your lineup, but obviously the big guy to watch is Calvin Ridley name is his foot going to heal up in time to play in this game. Remember they did play last Thursday. So he's got a better shot and and Hayden Hurst at tight end again, you know, you mentioned George Kittle is out potential the season and Hearst is somebody that you could consider using each and every week at this stage with the tight end position really narrowing. That'll do it for episode number one of the fantasy Feast eatin podcast. We still gotta get to raiders-chargers Cowboys Steelers Dolphins Cardinals. How about that suck matchup Saints and the Bucks and Monday night jets-patriots ill but we still got to talk about it because we go through every game here on the fantasy Feast Life as a reminder to take advantage of the Draft Kings off or send it to me Ross at Ross Tucker., I'll sign a picture card for you guaranteed and get more of Joe and the cast of thousands fantasy points.com. 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Better Rivals Ep. 290: Stock watch and top takeaways from 49ers vs Cowboys

Niners Nation

56:12 min | 1 year ago

Better Rivals Ep. 290: Stock watch and top takeaways from 49ers vs Cowboys

"Welcome to this week's addition of the niners nation dot com better rivals podcast. My name is oscar up ratio and this week. It is a win almost wednesday david. I want to know why the hell there is a strike through in my notes. The preseason is here and we have the injuries to prove it and with me this week to run down his top five hundred abuse david newman dammit. That's it. I'm leaving over. This is what you get for strike doing my intro. It's not wednesday ends they. It's not wednesday but you know what this normally. It's supposed to be wednesday for the first time in a while. Actually listeners will actually be listening to this on wednesday so it is a win wednesday for them. That's fair. I'm just you know what i had to pathy this episode. I put myself in the listener shoes and you ruined it. How do you read whatever you want not ron burgundy. You don't have to read whatever's on the prompt. You have no idea how close me being the ron. Burgundy is actually true but let's get to. Let's get the preseason in game because we have a game action we real things and even though this is just a glorified scrimmage. I still talk mad shit to all cowboys. Fans knew like i've i've got two responses for preseason right. If anyone comes that they would like oh you guys laws while lights. I send them immediately. Alan iverson gift we talk about practice are and it shuts it down real quick because it's like dude. You're sitting here and you're gloating about be teams rubbing up against each other and trying to pretend the play football like no but what if we win oh man you gotta believe i'm throwing all the shade and it was fun. It was a lot of fun because i've got family. Members cowboys fans even when it's only the bottom sixty players of your ninety man roster abba chance of of suiting up shit my goodness so let's get to the for those that her initiated to our preseason structure. Let's walk you through it so we're going to walk through some takeaways that we had kind of the bigger things that were watching over the course of the preseason and the preseason games. We're going to bring you an the era up arrow down section which is where we talked about the players that help or hurt their roster stock and we're gonna try to stick to players on the bubble or players that aren't assured a roster spot but really that those bottom the roster players that are or can make an impact or help themselves and get onto the team over the course of the preseason and then this year because we've got some rookie is that we want to keep an eye on. We're going to go through a quick little. I watch which segment where we're going to review the rookie players specifically because sometimes they don't do enough to get on that arrow aero down area but they're still performances that we want doc to watch so david. Let's say let's talk about the first take away and it has everything to do with a quarterback battle because it was more of the mullins methods show and if you listen the shanahan. He says they didn't really do anything to separate from one another. Was that kind of the case in this game. I don't think too far off. I think at the very released i would give a slight edge mullen but i could definitely see like how he'd come away and say that it wasn't definitive enough to to be like yeah okay. He's clearly you know taking a step forward. Ahead bathroom based on just what happened in this one game alone right. I think the case right now is is obviously over a much larger sample and what they did last year and everything anything but yeah. I think we kind of saw pretty similar things from both obviously being preseason. We're sticking pretty basic on concepts you you know pretty basic coverages that they're getting so <hes> both guys kind of able to to get the ball out to their first look quite a bit and that definitely helps matters <hes> mm-hmm but yeah overall. I think we've seen kind of similar stuff in this game what we've seen from them when we watch them in larger samples right and that's kind of where i landed at the end of this game is to me it was more more of the same that there wasn't anything that differed from last season and i think at the end of last season in my mind mullins ended up ahead of c._j. Beathard and so to me. You had a lot of the similar the things that you had at the end of last season in this game. Nick mullins was a more accurate thrower in this game. I think that he did have some areas where he didn't have the most accurate ball. Even the first pass of the game richard james wasn't the best throw in the whole wide world but on the whole he was bit more accurate and i think that his processing is also a little faster when he was blitzed against the dallas cowboys he averaged over ten yards per cent like he's. He's not like as fast of a processor as the elite fast processes in the n._f._l. But that's only makes up for his is kind of noodle arm and that's i think it's a good skill and especially in shanahan offense. It's a skill that has kind of propelled them to do as well as right and i think the the accuracy is something the does separate him from bethany and we were talking before the show and putting everything together talked about how like with the three quarterbacks that they have in the roster. It's it's like three redistrict tiers of accuracy that like you have garoppolo who when he's on is among the more accurate passers in the league mullins is is definitely not that but he is in kind of this middle tier of accuracy and that he usually gets the ball into a decent enough place that it's catchable right it may not always be the the most ideal spot to help encourage more yards after the catch and allow the receiver to kind of run in stride and make it but he's at least giving them opportunities to make plays most of the time and then a third who is kind of a little bit more wild and just has too many passes that that just are way off the mark and don't give the receiver a chance at all so. I think that was kind of the case here. Yeah mullens from an accuracy standpoint definitely wasn't perfect. There were a few plays where if that apollo was a little bit better. The play mentioned the first one of the game to richie james. It was ended up being a little bit high is he's trying to get it over the linebacker there. There was another one that comes to mind from. I'm a catch that jordan mathews had over the middle where he's got a step. A separation man covered their plan so if this is a good ball that allows him to catch this stride. There's some chance for some pretty big. Check on that play because there's not a lot of guys on the defense that are kind of closing in able to help and make that tackle right away so but the ball ends up being a little bit low down by his knees and takes him to the ground so he has throws like that and i think the other area that you would notice like accuracy that isn't exactly where you want it and this was something that absolutely showed up with him last year is he does struggle a bit on the move just just for whatever reason is far more comfortable when he can be stationary stationary in the pocket definitely doesn't have that same level of like touching it just tends to leave balls kind of behind or just again like on on the outside edges of the catch radius for for the receivers on the accurate adjacent exactly exactly so i think yeah that was <hes> kind of the most encouraging thing overall though from him compared to third and then and then you saw them both kind of had a play that wasn't so great that kind of stuck cows well. Let's talk about the interceptions for a little bit because i think after the game you look at shanahan's post-game comments and he was pretty explicit. They were both bad interceptions and then it seems like ah on mayo goes pod that listened to today. Maiocco said that he kind of put the c._j. Beathard one a little bit more on jalen hurd and kind of walk that when a little bit back but when you look at their interceptions perceptions i think they are they both had some elements where it was like yeah. I can understand why he threw the ball and also man that sucks that it was a that was an interception because you look at mullins interception option and you've got to laugh in the formation dallas's playing cover three. You've got two of the hook defenders in the middle of the field and one of those hook defenders should really carry that at linebacker the third receiver on the inside all the way up the field and he doesn't and he's able to kind of peel off and get into the area and intercept the ball. If mullins lins holds the ball just a little bit longer and actually throws that tight end he's going to have a pretty begin in front of the safety and that titans not going to be able to recover so not only was it kind of like got. You should've kept the ball a little bit longer and throw it somewhere else but then the decision you do make you kind of can put a penalty on that one right so i think they're they're kind of <hes> an element of of force in like i think you know it's tough to say definitively of course but i think there is an area that he theoretically put that ball right the completion so one it's compounded by the fact that he's getting hit right. He's releasing the ball and so that definitely alters the trajectory. The ball takes any sort of air. Kinda like sends it on a more downward trajectory that goes right to the linebacker so where he would need to put it in order for this avid chance at being successful is kind of more up in a little bit away from where that linebacker that only linebackers dropping to you and so when when the hit comes and it sends that ball down it just take any opportunity that that's going to happen but even if you're just looking at it from a decision like you mentioned. It's still kind of a questionable decision so i i think there was an opportunity for kind of a clear big play within his vision kind of in his i read that he's looking at their if he stays on that for a beat longer in his able to get a better read on the leverage of that linebacker vacher in sees that he's not gonna be in a position to cover this route. He can let that go and you're likely looking into big game but instead he holds onto it goes on to the next guy i that gives the rush time to get their hits him as he gets it and then and then you're taking a ball. That's not where he wants it to go anyway and send it into an area with two defenders. It's really interesting to see the end zone angle of this play because you see the linebacker staring right at tight end and you know the tight ends going to break his face when he does that. The linebacker is going to get turned around and you should be able to as a quarterback that leverage and throw that person open but instead you end up with with an interception now with c._j. Beathard of course he is his balls have a bit more zip on them. He's a little bit it. He's got a little bit more of an arm but his accuracy suffers and there were a couple of places where that got him in this game of course that deep deebo samuel it was fantastic highlight reel real catch but that shouldn't have even been highlight reel catch because it should have been in touch down if that ball is where it's supposed to be an up ahead of deebo samuel who has a step on his receiver was a gorgeous this route by deebo samuel. That's a touchdown. It's an easy six and then you look at the out throw which he sometimes some bathrooms throws are just like how did that even happen. It's almost like he's got the tiny hands everyone thought alex smith had the ball just kareem's often at this weird angle at you don't expect it to and he had an out route over to the right side where it's just like the the wide receiver kind of like stretches out and at one to them. It was like i don't. I don't even know why that happens. Yeah i i think and then you look at some of his he. He just really kind of struggles. If he gets any sort of pressure right like he i know there's like the whole thing when when his during his first season with him was like how well he stood in there earn got the shit beat out of him essentially and just took all these hits over and over again and that's fine but he he if he's if he gets taken out of rhythm so i think that's a good way we look kind of quarterbacks and how they're affected by project is not everybody's affected equally by pressure right. Some guys are able to stay in there a little bit longer. Stay mostly in rhythm them get into the throw as they would normally if they had a clean pocket and as a result or often lot more accurate and just kind of better on those throws battered u._c. Him i mean if that pocket starts to break down a little bit and there's any signs he just gets jittery back there even one of his best his best throw in this game which was the one that he had up the left sideline to think it was right. Yeah not the not the highlight reel one that the head on the jump ball but other one kind of the left sideline sideline you see like on the right side of the offensive line. There's a there's a defender. That's like kind of starting to break through but if he just stays in there like that defenders not going to get there before he has a chance to like. Let this ball go. He's gonna have plenty of time to stand. Worry is at the top of his dropping like get this ball out and be fine but he gets kind of a hint of that and just starts starts fading away and like throwing it as he's like falling backwards normally that like it worked out in this case but that is not a throw that he is shown the ability ready to make consistently at any point in his career when he's out there so not something that you expect to really be repeatable and then i think you see what the interception kinda in a more decision making. I think was was kind of the issue with that. One like yes it was definitely made to look worse by jalen hurd kind of stopping on that route or if he continues tinge across their the defender almost certainly doesn't have as clear of a chance to pick that ball off but one of the things you have to do as is a quarterback has confirmed coverage right. You can't just throw blind so honestly that's one of the reasons why i thought this one was in my eyes a little worse than the moans one because it was post nap confirmation and he didn't get get hit yeah so he's initially looking so you've got a heard that's coming from the right side of the formation across the middle of the field when he's initially dropping back and kind of at the top hop of his drop initially. He's looking off to a combination. He's got on the left side and what happens. He doesn't get what he likes. Over there. Just immediately snaps back to the middle of the field and throws rose instantly without having a chance to see what what is the safety that had dropped the safety started high drop down in the middle of field is kind of that robber role and was right there ready to go and if he's able to confirm that coverage you probably shouldn't have made that throw to begin with right so yes it was made to look a little bit worse <hes> because of what her did it but it still wasn't a great process to lead to that throw anyway so yeah. I think that's kind of what we've seen from. These guys like throughout their entire career. I yeah we've seen him as gather some good stuff if they can keep in rhythm and kind of get the ball out to their i look and shanahan can scheme guys open shirt. They're fine fine. They're probably going to be able to move the ball decently enough but once you get to kind of some of those you know more advanced q._b. Stuff you know your first looks gone now. I gotta move off. I'm i'm starting to get pressure something. That takes me a little bit out of rhythm. That's when you see both guys kind of start to falter c._j. Beathard blitz ten times his yards per tempt three point two do three point two yeah. That's that's three three yards and a cloud of dust. Only your throat might as well was handed off at that point right why would you why would you all right. Let's talk about the defensive scheme tweaks because we were excited to see what joe woods might bring to the table. Of course there's the wide nine and talk about. We covered a couple of those things on scheme months. So there's not a whole lot you could glean scheme wise but there were a couple nuggets that we thought were interesting. I starting with the secondary. You have just kind of the split. Let safety looks versus the interchangeable safety stuff. What does that actually translate to on game day while you didn't have an increase in the number of split safety looks it was still really really low with seventeen seventeen percent in this game which is kind of around their season average last year on them but nothing significant yeah nothing significant but what you do have is is you do have those the the starting split say look and then rotating to the strength as opposed to just moving the strong safety to the strong side on every play so that is kind of what we have. This is what happened with this whole interchangeable safety thing and it seems like that's exactly the case. They're not actually keeping marcel harris down low all the time they're starting reading too high and then rotating based on the strength right and i think the the thing that is a little different from what we were thinking it was going to be was that the the rotation is a post oh snap rotation and all this so. I think kind of the way that we looked at it was that they were likely still going to be a team that showed a single high safety at the beginning right that was what what they did on the wide majority of snaps last season. Was you got your one deep safety. That's back there right in what we were kind of suggesting that rather than having the same guy deep all the time they might just move those guys back and forth right where you've got one guy deep on someplace and the other one down the box and then they flip roles on on some other snaps depending on you know where they are setting the strength through to all that sort of stuff in this game. What they showed was a lot of too high to start so pre-snap. Look i'm showing too high. Safeties is deep but then the majority of the time with that they're dropping one down whether that's dropping the guy down to be more that robber role in in man coverage <hes> <hes> or whether that's just getting down as the hook player and cover three that they like to run so that was kind of an interesting thing is far as safety usage goes they did the one the other things that we were looking for us a lot more man coverage forty three percent of the time they were uncovered one in this game which is a big uptick from where they were out last year yeah you they're covered three snaps and they were at twenty seven percent cover three honestly last year you would almost inversed if anything you would see the vast majority of covered snaps yeah right about the versus yeah you you and then you would see maybe twenty seven percent or so cover one. This was slipped. Obviously is just one game but it's definitely something and it's one game in the preseason right so let's let's keep that in mind fine but it's something to note that something to keep an eye on as we move through these games if by the time we get to the third game were seeing at the end of the third game and we see a similar kind of split in terms of cover one cover three main coverage and rotating safety looks. It's probably safe to say that we're that's probably what we're going to see. Come regular season and while it's not a vast vast divergence from what they did this year. It's i think big enough to be notable right. I think the exactly the r- the reason for me that it's notable is because a lot of times what you're seen seen in the preseason is supposed to be kind of what is your base coverage right. You're practicing. You're just like basic stuff against someone else. Finally so your day five installs installs right you had you've had eleven practices so far over the course of like seven or eight days. There's not a lot of time to get to a lot of stuff so this really is the base of your foundation yeah so you you you're. That's what you know usually teams mean when you when you hear like the vanilla vanilla coverages vanilla defense whatever is just kind of like that that base stuff that they think is this. This is kind of the coverage that we're going to call most of the time right so if if last year we looked at it it would have been almost certainly like a high percentage of cover three right. That was there base coverage. That's what they're going to be in on the majority of snaps if suddenly now they're based coverage is going to be more cover one and instead of cover three. That's a significant change right so obviously nobody's overreacting to this one preseason game but definitely an encouraging sign because they were as was the case last year much more effective defensively in man coverage. They certainly weren't perfect but from an e._p._a. Per play allowed standpoint significantly better when they were in man coverage compared to win. They were in zone coverage in this game so i think yeah just again having guys that are around the receivers and in nearby to make some of these throws a little bit more difficult. Give him some tighter windows to try to throw into is a good thing for your defense and i don't know if that's a result joe woods or if that's the result of scouting but either way i think it's a positive about come because they were more effective in that coverage and i think that cover just on the whole knee n._f._l. Has proven to be a bit more effective so i think that's going to be a really really positive development. Whether whether it be because of joe woods or because of south gotta get to the wide receivers. This is another area where cal shanahan says he loves players at separate and at this point no one is separating rating double on time. Each player made some good plays but not really anything that jumped out. Let's go down the list really quickly richey james of course he was unspectacular. He got a lot of snaps a lot of opportunities and honestly. I was surprised to see how many he got especially early on but with trent taylor's injury makes it's a whole lot of sense but i wouldn't say that richard james did anything that completely jumped out if anything i thought it was kind of running after the catch was a little but other than that you know it was like okay okay. You're richard james yeah i. I think that was honestly like i feel like i have mostly the same thing to say about. Nearly all the receivers with the exception of maybe <hes> one guy that we can get to the end there but yeah i think when you look at james in pettus and depot and heard all of them on a kind of route for route basis right like had some good plays for sure like had routes where they were able to get some separation like be able to win even if the ball wasn't coming their way and had some plays where the ball did come their way right where they were able to make positive things happened but it definitely wasn't the kind of consistency i think you would like like to see. I think that's what kind of shanahan's comments alluded to after the game was right like whoa. I'm just not seeing it all the time. I get flashes from these guys on some place but it's just just not there at the consistency level that i really wanna see it at and that was kind of you know my takeaway as well coming out of this. I think you saw each guy. <hes> deebo probably probably had i think the most positive game to me i would say that to me did have the most positive but both in terms of the way the way he was able to catch that that kind of underthrown ball from from c._j. Beathard but also based on his ability on that end around. I think he's a really really strong runner and i think he showed a little bit of that on that end around he had a lot of open space but <hes> he did show a little bit of that and i think that his route running still looked really really refiners compared to even someone like jalen hurd because on that on that deep route for example where he catches the bathroom c._j. They're they're actually running mirrored concepts on either side. It's a stop go. Jalen herders running the stop and go on one side and depots running on the side. We're ultimately he makes a reception and you can just see subtle differences in the way they run the route and while deebo does get the benefit of having i think should your corner on or at least a corner. That's ed terrible mistake awhan bro gotta offhand ultimately. He ends up just running clean around. You can see some of the differences there yeah <hes> gets <hes> gets a ton of separation on there like i mean winds at the line of scrimmage. Even despite i mean part of the reason <hes> you know obviously the the corner does make a terrible decision he re dr is jammed the wrong hand and we jane with the wrong hand. You miss it that leaves you unable to recover essentially and so which leads your which one's your offhand for the uninitiated associated so it's going to be the opposite hand from the one from where the receiver releases so here depots releasing to outside so you wanna shoot as a corner. You're inside hand because that way when i'm opening i'm opening with the receiver and i'm getting my inside hand on him and i can kinda ride him directly going if he goes outside and shoot <music> outside handle that's turning my body position inside and if i miss it's over because now you're you're literally cycle. You've you have no way of of quickly recovering from that position so you always want to go with the opposite hand the receiver releases so that you can mir the receiver that direction and kind of stay on top of him and so yeah you get that part of the reason he does look so stupid is because you know give obviously a little credit to depot there as well for release really gets the last i spit like just as the corner thinks he's screwed in like trying to play catch up you get the little stop like that makes the corner like almost completely. Stop thinking he got a break. He was then yeah. It was great and then you leave it. There and i think that was also a play to that was nice to see from depot because that wasn't a type of throw or catch that you see him. Make a lot in college right. He wasn't a guy that was necessarily a big downfield especially like contested catch type guy and that was the rap that people had on him coming out of of south carolina's. Everyone's saying okay he's. He's a slot guy. He's basically running back playing wide receiver you should throw him in the slot and that's that and when we did the kind of preseason yvonne alan. I'm like no this. This guy can play outside. I mean this is he. Has that skill set. That catch goes to show exactly what it was. We were talking about but let's go to if the preseason before you before daddy runs out for cigarettes and never comes back and you leave once the regular season hits in the preseason yeah. I'm gonna. I'm gonna keep hitting you with these all all for the next couple of weeks man and ultimately. We're going to talk about as much as possible to things. Punters and jalen hurd the two of the three favorite things that david has in the forty niners currently the third of course being running backs. I'm happy to talk about jalen. Let's do it. Let's let's talk about jalen hurd because of course big story the two touchdowns he had a lot come out of the game. Someone's already picked him up. In our dynasty league. They paid five dollars the same the same guy that has like as a quick aside has seven quarterbacks on his ross one quarterback during the rookie expansion during the yes we drafted initially so it was a startup dynasty honesty league this year to quarterback league so quarterbacks. Do you have a lot of value should definitely move them up. Grab a few of them grab six. You can't play six x. You can't even play four or three. He comes from that steven jones personnel panel philosophy. What if i just play all the linebackers you can identify the mike yeah he's like. He's the guy that's going off like the you look at if you look at somebody's like like our own jeff rackliff at p._f. His two q._b. Dynasty rankings rankings right. You're going to see quarterbacks a lot higher on there and that doesn't mean that you should just pick the next guy off the top of the list and ignore roster construction right anyway anyway so this guy's team is completely made up essentially of quarterbacks and then random fucking preseason guys that like sit out like that he's got like waiver claims on rosters terrible but it's hilarious and you have one hundred dollar free agent budget over the course of the entire regular season and he's now spent five dollars on jalen hurd <hes> five five percent of his total budget and it's going to be interesting but jalen two touchdowns of course. Let's first talk about the things that he did. Well i think overall and i've warmed up more so i think over the course of the off season to jalen her. I did think he had a really strong and powerful run into the end zone. I don't think that he that that route entered of itself wasn't anything special. He was open. He caught the ball. I think his which is not you're not gonna raw about that but i do think that his ability to move through contacts get across that goal and get a touchdown is positive because i mean if he's a big dude. That's what you would expect from someone like and especially from the slot a former running to actually sleep running back yeah i would. I would hope that he's capable of doing that. I think that's a great skill set to bring to the table and then of course second touchdown was something we didn't see him. Do a whole heck of a lot now. I wouldn't necessarily call that a contested catch but it will corner wasn't wasn't about contestant but it was very much. Go up and get it kind of catch and and it's not something that he showed off in college and i do think that if he can introduce that into his game he can be a very valuable reds on weapon so i did think he did a couple of things well. We'll even if it wasn't one of these. Super bonkers lights out performances. I think there were again absolutely some good players. I think like you said the after after the catch bit on the first touchdown was probably one of the best parts of it <hes> yeah as far as the route that was open purely that's just kind of their play action in boot concept that they go to a ton he is open because he's like he's not getting open because of some great iran right he's just running to an area and that area's free free because of the concept that they're running and so that part's great made the catch and then yeah the ability to get in the zone and finish like awesome i think as far as is the fayed goes. I'm just like like. I don't care about that. As much as i think a lot of people do because even among the best receivers it still not a high percentage throughout right so even if he becomes among the best end zone fade receivers in the n._f._l. It's still not something they should be doing very often because it still bill overall a very low percentage throw so i think it's important not to overreact like yeah that play not trying to take anything away from him for that play but it's it's about looking at what what is repeatable right. What can you do take from this game that we can expect him to continuously do well going forward and i think you know stuff like the ability after the catch is definitely something that's a lot more reasonable to expect him to continue to do things like winning on the famed ball like it's just not a thing thing that really anybody does consistently and to me. It's less about the thinking that now all of a sudden fades are going to be an integral part of the red zone offense. I i hope they're not. I've been out on fade since circa twenty twelve yes niner fans remember. They still remember but i do think that just <hes> him being able to display something that he didn't necessarily do often in college and do it at least in one instance fairly well. It's okay if he's going to be able to add things in both things on his game. If you already have some of that the catch ability then hey you maybe you have someone who can get us some positive snaps in some areas especially when you've got basically an ambulance ambulant full of players <hes> one of them being slot receiver that is trent taylor. He's got that jones fracture of course which it sounds so benign. It's actually it's like a fracture of your pinkie kito but it's like the bone below. It's right by where it connects to your foot like near the top of your foot and it's like super painful sounds terrible yeah. It sounds awful but but i mean if you're going to have if you're going to need someone in the slot then yeah let's let's give it to someone who can succeed in space and if shanahan's gonna get him open then lets him bull over some dudes. Yeah i think <hes> <hes> again. There were definitely gonna play. I think the thing the only thing i would say is like don't over like don't give too much credit for the touchdowns right. Don't don't like the fact that he got in the end zone the play yeah. I think that was a good player. That had a lot to do with him. Another one's kind of target location right there down. They're going to give them a shot shot like his plays like that doesn't make the fact that those plays ended in touchdowns doesn't make them inherently better than say like a plague deebo. Samuel had right down the sideline right. I would argue that that's more skilled play even though it didn't result in points necessarily and so i think that's the only part there i think overall yeah all all four of those guys he's had pretty similar games and like again one on some routes even on on stuff away from the target point right they they had they got open and then they had some other routes that they didn't and they weren't as good on i did see jalen her to piss off another defender though via his blocking which i thought was funny trump'll yeah he did. He ended up going like a little bit after the snap in the corner comes at him and discredit he. Maybe he learned the lesson shanahan he didn't do anything he didn't retaliate or anything kind of broken. 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Daniel daniel subscribed to digest for free today on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app all right first i up aero up is going to be naji tauron nnaji tauran. It wouldn't be our podcast. Not i was i. I wanted to go nausea. A kid be nausea it could be. I don't know there's a guy v notch. I'm let's it's our podcast. We do nausea. I'm nausea tauron nausea torn taran taran all right now. Sater's nature sounds better right that i'm sure but i'm still gonna look at the pronunciation guide just in case nah. We're not gonna do that now but nausea taran started at guard moved. The center is actually very impressive reach blocks especially once he moved the center. I thought he had a pretty solid game at guard but then moves to center in i think the second quarter or even in the second half and he actually is playing very very well there and especially considering western rich berg his injury or the fact that western richard may just not be good would anymore this is this is something that could be a really really positive development for the forty niners absolutely they need some interior depth for sure right. They need need some guys that they can have in there especially as a backup plan in case a rich berg. I think other side of the ball on the defensive line was probably the guy that was most arrow up for me demonte more so this. This was probably not somebody that that i think a lot of people would be expecting a ton of just because obviously there are so many more high profile names games on the defensive line right obviously the big additions in bozon ford the guys that were already there that were first round picks like it's a deep position group probably their deepest is that they have by a significant margin. I think more is a guy again if they're going to go to this kind of like philly style heavy rotation. We don't want anybody playing more then you know seventy percent of snaps wanna be able to go seven eight deep there. I think somebody montre more is is is what this type of performance could absolutely like crack that type of rotation in writing be one of those seven eight guys that they go to. He was for kind of some additional context. He was our highest graded edge defender in the af it <hes> before that the whole thing folded which was great has inside but he came out in this game and i think it was <hes> you know overall like really positive had by far. The most overall pressures had three hits three hurries had a nineteen point four percent win rate so just how often dennis he beating the blocker. That's in front of him. That was the highest on the team in this game guys that had at least ten snaps rushing the passer so just overall. It wasn't the most necessarily early like dominant impressive performance right as far as i'm watching guys all game long but it was just kind of consistent steady wins you know affecting the quarterback a little bit affecting throws leading off target stuff got a got a few hits in there again so again is somebody who would potentially essentially be like your seventh or eighth pass rusher that you've got in this rotation like i think he's absolutely should be conversation so i looked it up at his najji. Yeah yeah good call david could call all right so contrasting demonstra more with my aero down player and that's going to be contagious street because sometimes you've got demonte more on one side and you've got contagious street on the other and just the contrast between the two is stark. It is startling at times times kentavious street of course fourth draft. Pick the forty niners. He assumes the mantle of being on the team even post trent balki world. This is the player who you could even forget. He was on the team because he did not play a snap last year. I did that this year. Indeed he's back and i'm watching the tape and i'm looking at the screen screen and i'm like oh man number. Ninety five not snap home in ninety five. What are you doing kind of rubbed. My eyes tank kerosene. Is that you no no. It's contagious street and like me up from this nightmare again. It's still early. It's one preseason game there still time right so this is not going to be the rap on kentavious free forever but at least in this one game he did not do himself any favors. He played on both sides of the line. Both strong side and weakside didn't have botanic success on either side. Got welcome to the n._f._l. Real quick his person happens tiresome. It is all man. He is eating a face mask full of grass. It's just it's bad is not good. It was so good highly encourage you to go watch. This is the very first pass the cowboys during the game and and it's like he's trying to go this outside move right he. He wants to basically be able to swat down smith outside hand and kind of use that to kinda shoot himself around the bend. The corner and smith is just like literally playing with the dude he likes stops at one point and just kind of like waits for them to do it and then he fakes issue so shoots that outside hand and as soon as he sees them go to swipe pulls it back street just hits nothing but air and starts to tumble and then smith is basically early. Toss him to the ground and it's over. It's hilarious yeah. It's it's high level play from fifty percent of that dance and unfortunately that fifty percent is not on the forty niners so number ninety five kentavious. Don't call me tank street. Thanking of play that wasn't so high level the other side <hes> a going back to the offensive line yeah so really really focusing on the trenches here with arrow up era down willie beavers <music> fantastic name this guy seriously he might have the biggest delta between the quality of name and quality of play yeah i i think i think that is probably accurate. <hes> not a great look for my guy in this game. <hes> just just wasn't doing so. Well amazed maze that this guy is so he was a fourth round pick. Once upon a time from the psyching surprised that is startling so i think the biggest thing with him is just clearly lacks the kind of athleticism that we're used to seeing from shane offense one obviously in the run game they wanna be able to get out in space as lettuce ism important pass protector as well so usually you see guys that can kind of move around fairly well right guys that can redirect well once they get up to the linebacker backer level in the run game and stuff like that. This guy is maybe straight out of like the jim harbaugh air like he can. He gets going in in a straight line but he is not moving off that path he and he looks super big. He does look a little bit less athletic alex boone like when when you see his size there at the guard position that's kind of what he's minnesota large dude and so you see like how that can kind of work in his favor and then to his detriment like onto plays that he had on these outside zone run so right one of them he gets up and again he's on his track and he's not moving off that track and the first one that comes this linebacker gets a little bit a to close gets right into his path and he just sends him flying like five yards back like great block drives them completely out of the play toss him to the ground around the next time. This linebacker basically tries to go around and rather than running straight into them and and getting tossed makes a move to get around him. Mm-hmm and beavers is just like completely like he just keeps going like he literally can't stop to to try to redirecting a block on this guy so it was just rough off there it was it was pretty rough in pass protection as well like just had had problems again like redirecting to the inside when guys go there inside move and so he gave up a number of pressures. They're got called for three penalties in this game. <hes> so just overall was was roughly played left. Tackle mostly had some time at right right guard as well like neither. Were good on guard if you're going to you're gonna put them somewhere. Though it's got to be a guard put him somewhere and he's been on the bench. Put him somewhere with the training staff guard. He sorry my guy like it's just a security the security guard nightwatchman. That's the kind of guard bouncer with a name like beavers. I think he'll do with the size of the man. I think it'd be ineffective bouncer yet he basically they tried to get both quarterbacks killed in two on two separate occasions on one and this is super unfortunate because it was a great another great call from shannahan. He causes burner concept. You've got kendrick born running across the middle of the field and the ball hits them in the hands and he drops it but in the process poor bastard just probably i was more willing rolling with ones yeah mullens where he gets his spleen exploded on the way down and battered ends up getting a different hit because he was beavers is out at tackle loses on the inside again and completely crushed but yeah i mean is he's just not someone who's going to be out there taking care of quarterback right. I like the way that i would sum summit. Up is obviously like there was no offensive. Linemen in this game that you're hoping is going to be a starter really right. It was complete like second and third stringers. There's you're not expecting that to look great so when a guy stands out as especially bad among that group that's a problem and that was kind of unfortunately what really beat i i was here yeah but you know what the rest of the preseason. We're gonna take every opportunity to say willie beavers as often as we can. You damn right yep. Willie beavers all right so let's get to our the final segment then and that's going to be i watched. We're gonna break down some of the rookies that jumped out during the game since maybe they didn't do enough to be on arrow down but we still wanted to spend a little a bit of time chatting about their performance and i of course is going to be the man of the hour one mr drake greenlaw of course. He's got a lot of buzz after the game. He is apparently challenging for a starting starting spot. He's pushing adam smith for that linebacker spot which i think again would be great. Someone asked us incidentally why malcolm percents wasn't on our surprise cut list from the mailbag episode because surprise. There are no surprises everything's expected. No i think <hes> triggering law like yeah. I mean i would be great. I i surely hope that he can beat out malcolm smith and assume that role but i think in this game yeah i am not ready. I mean he's a guy that got a lot of hype through camp right so was somebody that i was looking forward to watching this game and kind of seen how he played because he was a guy that we weren't super high on coming out of college right like is his college tape. Wasn't that good. He wasn't overly athletic like there weren't <unk> allot there from what you could just see on tape that that made you really excited about his game and so when he started getting all that buzz kind of through camp and throughout the off season i'm with somebody that was definitely excited to watch and so pay a good amount of attention to him in this game and i mean he was he was fine. He was okay but i think there were there. Were definitely some mirror. They're like busted. A few coverage is one that he had gets really pulled up by the play action allows the the deep crossing around to hit over the top of him another one that we didn't pay for which was in man coverage where he kind of bales on his responsibility essentially and luckily for him the quarterback kind of ends up getting pressured and isn't able to find the wide open receiver that he laughed and so that you know kudos to him. I guess for not getting that taken advantage of but yeah just overall in coverage especially like didn't seem to be processing things super well like kind of beat late and just wasn't always he's in the right spot that you would want him to be in zone drops and so i think yeah like there was some decent he did have a few good plays mixed in there for sure definitely wasn't wasn't all bad it but i think it's still like it's where i would've expected a player like him to be if we didn't hear all of the buzz about him leading up to this game game and i think that's that's exactly right landed with them too is i think that he a little bit like the wide receivers but i think on a more early stage level. He seemed very green to me. He seemed a little tentative and he made some good plays where he was able to one specifically where he of course made that five yard for a five yard loss he read his key exploded and was able to get there a pretty quickly but i think he still made some errors. He still made some mistakes that you would expect from a fifth round rookie in his first kind of preseason action. The hope i think is that you can continue to build on that but there's no guarantee that's going to happen so i would say that this is this is positive in that. He didn't look completely out of his depth. He didn't look he's no willie beavers but at the same time he's not out there completely dominating and crushing second and third string players like you would expect someone who is going to be. Maybe maybe like a sending to a pro bowl in year one right. I think the the contrast for me that really kind of was was pretty. Stark is so guys that were taken in a similar position in the draft had a somewhat similar concerns also as well like either quite produced it like an elite level and in both like didn't test super super well either coming out but was if you look at mac wilson linebacker from alabama ended up getting drafted by the browns just a little bit after the niners at greenlaw the the thing that you have to be so if you're not like the most athletic guy right if you're not gonna win that way you wanna see guys that can process while they need to be able to efficient and their movement be able to get kind of moving in the direction. They need to be earlier than maybe somebody else 'cause. They're recognition is so good and you saw like mac wilson i if you go back and watch a little bit of that browns game was incredible. Just was all over the place in that game made a couple like outstanding plays in coverage that were just like really kind of eye-popping and again. These are guys that came out around the same time in the draft had similar concerns like into see that sort of difference right like mak wilson and not somebody i mean obviously not following the browns as close as they do the niners but certainly not a player that i've heard a lot about going into it as far as like buzzed goes and you see that that kind of stark difference in their performance and i think that's kind of maybe what makes me a little bit more down on green laws like there's this clearly stuff. That's still missing from him. David newman you're telling me that you're not a lifelong browns fan despite the fact that you're sitting here wearing a baker mayfield t-shirt lifelong browns fan yep yep yeah typical just like the lifelong browns fan absolutely <hes> actually there are a ton of lifelong browns fans and they're all very depressed all the i'm not one of those. I'm only here for the good stuff lifelong since twenty. The next person on this list is going to be z's al-sheikh ear or aljazeera ashes air. We're gonna do this all the time because they're all shows air yeah. I thought i thought he actually played need a comparable if not slightly better game than dre greenlaw and i would say that he still had a similar eye-popping play where he completely declared someone on i think it was a screen pass and he is though a more athletic person and that if lettuce system is going to show a little bit more especially in the preseason games because you don't have to make up for it with some of that processing speed even though i thought he did play with a pretty degree with a pretty good degree of processing for another person again. He's an undrafted guy. He's not someone who was heavily touted as as a player that he's not getting a ton of cam buzz. I think he's probably headed for the practice squad but i do think that he's someone who and when you're looking at their performances differences i think comparable in terms of their output but for whatever reason greenland's getting a lot of buzz hopefully that we end up getting shown how that buzzes coming over the next couple of weeks and ultimately ends up putting malcolm smith on the looking forest so the other guy that i was looking forward to watching that was kind of more late round rookie was tim harissa. The cornerback took in the six round so he was a guy that was was really athletic but was kind of a little bit more raw. Maybe a technique wise and that was kind of why you saw him fall as late as he did in the draft this game i think it was. I don't know it was it was i think a little bit more encouraging gene because he didn't look completely terrible and out of his element right there were at least not many plays where he was just like look completely lost was is getting towards for huge gains or that he definitely gave up like several receptions right like gave up a positive plays the encouraging thing with him as he he was at least like in the right area forcing usually at least somewhat difficult throws right by being closer in coverage and again just like didn't look out of his element at all and so i think if there are some things that he can clean up their technique wisely there was one play where he made a great break on the ball had a chance incident interception and just kind of misplayed it and didn't really track the ball that well ends up going through his hands in the receiver makes catch right so little things like that at the could have really shifted how we viewed his performance in this game if they if they would've went them you know more positive direction there so i think yeah he's someone will continue continue to be watching you throughout the preseason because the four hundred do need just depth at that position right. They need guys at corner. They can potentially have plug in their if guys get hurt and so he's when guys get hurt when guys get currently were staring down the barrel of another jason gerrad injury yeah i mean you. You know who could have seen it coming. I guess but oh man. I'm so sad about that. Though i'm robin i know i was. I was looking forward to hopefully getting at least some healthy any time with him and it's just not happening. At least it happened early in the preseason right. Hopefully hopefully this is the one right got our hopes deflated nice and early just really leave took the wind out of it. The last one here on the rookie. I watch is going to be just in school. I don't know that he well well. I do know he did not have a very very good game. It wasn't really beavers bad but he definitely showed that he had willie. Beavers is definitely jordan debbie. I mean in the in the log with no redeeming qualities name. That's his redeem yeah. That's that's how could i forget. He plays music nick to your ears using another instrument his name but you got justin skill. He just is a rookie that absolutely showed he needs them seasoning at this point he is his technique is not super solid. He gets over his feet far too often. He gets defeated in ways that especially from second and third string or is that you you would hope we weren't the case again. You have to remember this guy was he was like a six round draft. Pick right so he's. He's a developmental guy. That definitely needs some development did not super-duper impresses. I go around but you know what there's little time for him to develop your hopefully you hope that he can do something year one but he i think is more of a longer term draft pick and someone. The niners hoped to put a little bit more development time into yeah. I think you know practice. Squad probably makes the most sense for somebody like him like yeah. It wasn't <hes> he he wasn't necessarily guy. You were looking at in the late round. That like is a steel right like oh man how how did he fall that far and like he might be able to come in and be your swing tackle right away or something like that like yeah. He's gonna need like you said a bit more seasoning development so i think i really if you're going to end up keeping him around and ultimately i think the the niners they do retain second waiver priority after cut down day because that's where the they haven't played a game waiver priority hasn't reset but the the ultimate that's where they can probably see if something shakes free and maybe signed someone or maybe even trade late round pick for someone like they did with sean coleman and hopefully end up getting some tackled depth that way because i don't know i mean my designed. <hes> was named ben. I don't know man yeah. I hope he doesn't get in the game because if either staley or mcglinchey is out. That's ex- yeah ultimately. I think think the niners should try to make a move. If something shakes free near cut down day. I think the overall the probably left. I probably shouldn't have been surprised but i did leave. If the game worried about that offensive line death yeah i mean i think that's a i because i think that's just literally a worry for every single team like most teams out there not most but a lot of teams are struggling to get their five their starting five like an decent spot right and not me look at teams like houston whose tackles or just like fucking terrible samyong not ben and i just thought it was a monosylabic first name sure forgettable. This is what it was forgettable name. Know willie beavers that one no insurance <hes> beavers but yeah so i think when you when you come out with an offensive line that again you're hoping that not a single. One of those guys are out there. Come week one you know when when things are kicking off real there so yeah you kind of expect back them to be bad and struggle and that's what they were all right and finally i watch talk to me about punters david why was mitch now skis debut as a partner your favorite putter debut in all of them. You say this like i watched a single punt from his or even a single special teams playing. You're not gonna talk about his coffin. Corner point gonna talk to me about how that ball sweetly rolled out of the sideline inside of the twenty. I spent twenty seconds and maybe not maybe not even that. I took a peek at his great. You're not gonna talk to me about how his hanging time of like. Four point four seconds wasn't and even in jake bailey's hang time he'll jake bailey of course was the guy that thought the niners are going to draft in the fifth round. He had one punt the preseason who was thinking that they were going to draft a punter in any round no so it was yeah no actually i'm pretty sure everyone's like yeah then they're looking for someone more into the fifth or sixth round in the late round but everyone was going to be jake bailey and his hang taiwan is one point was like four point nine seconds which is that's pretty funny no michael michael dixon but he's not australian fair inherent disadvantage correct yeah. That's exactly right all right so that about does it. For this exhibition of the better rivals podcast you can always follow me on twitter at better rivals david working. They follow you. It's going to be at p._f. Underscore david one final note as we wrap up the show show you will start to see another podcast on this same fee. It's going to be done by kyle posey. He is the editor-in-chief of niners nation. We're doing our best to try to get you some content throughout the week. 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#311 Robert Saleh, Jared Goff, Eagles, Steelers/Ravens & Ask Zac

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#311 Robert Saleh, Jared Goff, Eagles, Steelers/Ravens & Ask Zac

"Oh my goodness. Good morning. Good afternoon. Whatever it is for you. I hope you're having a fantastic day. My name is Zach shomler. This is strong opinion sports package. 311. And today I'm wearing a really dark green shirt. I'll be honest. I shamelessly I decided to pick Comfort over look today. I am I guess is it's too dark to really stand out against the dark blue background where I'm about to move the studio all around and fix and stuff and make it look better out if it'll look better it'll sound better in my opinion. And so am I don't know screw it. I don't even know if I'm doing any breakouts from this episode like on YouTube. I think a lot of this is going to be a full podcast, which is you better listen to the full episode cuz I don't know that a lot of the stuff I have to say is going to break into little biased statements. I'm going to kind of go around and ramble and have fun with it and enjoy football. I I want to start today kind of bragging actually. This is nothing to do with sports, but I'm really birth. Out I fix my washing machine. I spent the early part of the week doing that where I like I pulled it all apart. The drum was all exposed, you know at lean the top part the head leans back You Pull It Forward. It's like a Kenmore something and pull up on YouTube how to do it and what to do and pulled it all apart using tools and I fixed it and I just pay a proud. I don't want you to know that your favorite sports hosts. Hopefully your favorite. I'm not your favorite wrong with you right just kidding you can like whoever you want do whatever you want. But I fixed it. I was really proud. I fixed the washing machine. I wasn't alone. Shout out to my girlfriend Elizabeth. She helped me. We you know, she was holding stuff for me and took me and but she she was actually sometimes even giving me directions cuz she was watching the video along with my steps doing it. But yeah fix a washing machine kind of my one of my favorite moments of twenty-twenty were like, yeah. I caught something a proud. I did it like yeah like a really bad. I felt good. I want to dive into sports today. I want to talk about and this looks kind of good. I'm rolling my sleeve up looks shockingly good. It's got the white underneath and who I like I like how this looks I wish the shirt was brighter. Like if they show it was blue and we're like every single episode cuz it's comfy. It looks I think it looks pretty good the way it fits Mike my body and my cut but I wish it was like a lighter color so I could wear it more often on the podcast jump in today on Sunday. The Forty Niners beat the Rams. They beat them twenty three to twenty the Rams won. It was a close game. It was twenty two twenty with three minutes at eleven seconds left. Both teams actually had a possession at the end of the game. The Rams had the ball, they couldn't do anything Jared Goff Mister thrower to to throws the two key throws at the end of the game. He'd missed and took it move the ball. So the 49ers got the ball first intent on their own 20-yard line with 2 minutes and 10 seconds left. And the 49ers backup quarterback, Nick Mullens drove him down the field with the help of Deebo Samuel Forty Niners drove into field-goal range the kicked the game-winning field goal as time has expired and the 49ers won. They beat the LA Rams a big win because man La the Rams looked like a playoff team and the Forty Niners are decimated by injuries. And I think my number one take away from this game. First of all, I'm really curious to kind of see as time unfolds. What the future of Jared Goff is you remember? He's the Rams starting quarterback and he's a good point in his career where he's in here five and he's fine. He's very much fine. Right nothing. I can't really go. He's awful. He's making terrible mistakes. I can't really harp on that page and I wouldn't like he's fine. Right and his job is probably not in danger. He's the starting quarterback of the Rams. He's safe. He feels good. He solid and Jared Goff is very very talented dog. He occasionally makes a throw that makes me go. Wow. That's a it's a dime occasion when I watch is Jared Goff I go. Oh boy. That's beautiful. And he's got a great coach Sean McVay. The coach of the LA Rams is a great offensive coordinator. He's just a I think I also like the way he manages people and players season like a good players coach and I I do feel like at times Sean mcvay's genius as a play-caller as a coach as a designer of an offense as a coach in general overseeing the whole team occasion. I feel like the genius of Sean McVay gets wasted because he's coaching Jared Goff. There are occasional moments when I go man, what's going on? How do you miss that? Throw? How do you do? How do you do this? How do you it's not I can't be like man. She took it stretches of his career. He's terrible. It's nothing like that like these he's nowhere near trubisky. He's got way more a way higher ceiling way more Talent as he good stuff and Jared Goff occasionally I go well, but I do sometimes. And then can go man. Does Jared Goff want to be a great quarterback? Like what is Jared Goff want? What are his goals? Cuz he seems happy. He lives in La he's got a nice house. He Got a good job. He's very secure. He's made money. He's Jared. Goff is very very safe. But sometimes he plays like a guy who knows he's very very safe and he doesn't appear to be hungry to take the next step forward. I I I might be reading it wrong. I don't know if person I'm not trying to attack the guy but you certainly I haven't seen a lot enough progression and growth from him on the field to go. Wow. He's clearly working his butt off diving into detail watching film trying to get better every single week. I don't see that I I almost feel like there's a this is again. I'm speculating here. It feels like there is a bit of complacency. Which Eric. He's happy. He's good. He's solid wage. I remember a couple of years ago, Joe Flacco the Ravens quarterback felt safe, but then he was mediocre for too long. And he got replaced if you're safe, and you feel safe. That's a problem. I think I don't think Tom Brady's ever felt safe in his life think Tom Brady is always felt like I have to grind to get after to keep my spot to fight harder and keep going off. And I'll never forget there was a moment. When earlier this year the Washington football team played the Rams and Alex Smith played in the game as a big deal kind of probably the start of is what we'll be back Player of the Year award season for him where he really he came back. He had some good yardage. He did very very well and number Alex Smith is coming back from a horrifically leg injury. And Jared Goff is actually the person that pointed out I talked about something after that game. But Jared Goff is the person that pointed out. You know, what Jared Goff pointed out after the Rams Washington game. He said Jared said man off this made a lot of money. He doesn't need to be there. And Outlook Jared goff's totally right? That's a good assessment. Oh, wow. I mean Alex if it didn't need to come back and fight that hard. And and maybe that means something maybe it doesn't I don't know but it's interesting to me that Jared Goff was thinking that in that moment cuz I certainly wasn't thinking wow, Alex Smith doesn't need to be here. I was I was inspired by the way, he fought back but I never thought man. I never I never occurred me. Like if Alex mid doesn't want to come back and just want to play again. He doesn't have to why is that what Jared Goff thought? Maybe it's coincidence. Maybe it means nothing. I'm just saying stuff out loud, but why was that in the back of your house might? I don't know. And it makes me curious. Where is Jared Goff going to be five years from now? I don't know. Does Derek Hough want to work really really hard to take a step forward to get to the next level as a quarterback? Is he hungry? Where's Jared Goff going to be five years from now is going to be Joe Flacco a guy who felt very safe played mediocre for too long gets replaced. Is he going to take the next step forward? I mean, I think it's very rare and and it's not I think it is very rare in a quarterback's career. After year 5 to take another big step forward usually by your five, you know who they are. And that's what they are the rest of their career. It's it's really hard to keep getting better. After that time. It happens. I'm not I'm not trying to say Jared Goff can't get better but it feels like he's plateaued and it's I guess I would ask em and spins where Jared Goff is where he's at right now. He never gets better from this moment. Is that what you are for the next ten years? I mean, you're not terrible. He's he's fine with occasionally playing very good, right? That's not the worst place to be as an NFL team. But Jared Goff doesn't ever get better again. Is that what you want long-term? I don't know. I don't have the answers here. I know that's what I would want long-term and it certainly would feel like man this amazing coach. Sean. McVay wife has a quarterback. He's plateaued. He's not really fighting to keep getting better. And that's just disappointing cuz Sean McVay, I mean imagine if Sean McVay coached Patrick Mahomes or a guy with a talent like Jordan love or just in her if he was the coach of the other team in LA with Justin Herbert. Oh my goodness, right? Yeah. There's so much more physical Talent there. And I guess I'm just curious is I'm asking a question here. Is Jared Goff Rich complacent mediocre and happy? How hungry is he to keep getting better? I don't know. I'm asking questions here, but I'm curious to see what's going to happen in Jared Goff future down the road. Is he gonna keep getting better is he is he just Plateau to this was not going to be that the rest of his his career. I don't know but I'm really fascinated to see what happens in the future of Jared Goff. So the 49ers beat the Rams and I got a couple of times with a 49er. First of all Deebo Samuel made a huge impact coming back to play for the 49ers. He's been out since week 7 had a hamstring injury. I believe I think I'm getting that right hamstring injury. I know it since week 7 he had in this game against he had 11 catches for a hundred thirty-three yards had a huge play on the 49ers final touchdown and field-goal drive to give them the lead obviously game-winning field goal. He had this big play. We're caught us right after the catch got him into field-goal range had a couple other plays were like, yeah one play where He was he broke a tackle and made a huge run after the catch. He made some good catches. I really I walked away very very impressed with Deebo Samuel and I really like him. I think he's awesome and he he's really he's great in all aspects of the office where they're it's running the ball, whether it's blocking whether it's catching passes. I mean, he really does everything on Deebo Samuel the name that I think doesn't get a lot of respect around the league but Nash and is he an impact player for San Francisco? Now, do you know where the unsung hero of the 49ers is the unsung hero of the 49ers is Robert Saleh. He's the 49ers defensive coordinator, and he does not get enough credit in my mind. And eventually he's going to get job offers and eventually there's got to be people saying hey Robert Saleh. I want you to leave San Francisco be our head coach. And personally I hope that Robert Saleh. I mean if I if I control the world if I was God, I would say Robert Saleh never leave Kyle Shanahan. I really liked them together. They are a great pair. Kyle Shanahan gets a lot of the credit and most of the critics he's head coach took Robert Saleh and Kyle Shannon. Let's not mince words. They're our team. They work together. Kyle works the office, Shannon calls the plays and Designs The Outfits Roberts Allah is in charge of the defense and man. He's got a sweet gig off where I mean, they're better together Robert Saleh Kyle Sheehan and they're better as a team working together on the same team than they would be separately. And it does feel inevitable that some day. These two coaches are going to go their separate way eventually Roberts. I was going to become a head coach in my it's gonna when you're this good for this long eventually. It's going to happen. But I really hope not I really really hope that I mean man, they study it reminds me of the coaches at Clemson and I think what I'm about to say is going to get aged very crazy cuz at some point Brent venables is going to leave South Carolina and I guess Clemson's where coaches in South Carolina. He's going to leave and he's gonna go the head coach somewhere else on his own cuz Brent venables is an incredible right now. He's the defensive coordinator of the Clemson Tigers Dabo swinney's head coach and Dabo Swinney and Brent venables together. Oh my GIF won national championships. Literally, they're phenomenal phenomenal pairing. Add Clemson as a highest-paid coaching staff in all of college football. They recognize the value of Brent venables. They pay him to keep him around, a great coach and I really want to see the same thing happen with the 49ers in Robert Saleh pay him to keep him around do not let that guy walk out of your building. He's a great defensive coordinator. He had some of the stuff he did against the the Rams this week. I went. Wow. I just it's brilliant. I mean, there's a reason why San Francisco would beat the Rams twice this year. I'm always a playoff team. San Francisco might have been before the injuries, but man even a backup quarterbacks and all kinds of injuries on offense. The Forty Niners defense has stayed really good. And even with injuries on defense, they're still still really good. Like they're keeping they're just they're they're are really good unit together and it starts at the top with Robert Saleh. And again both Kyle Shanahan Robert Saleh are better together than they would be separately. But also I would warn Robert Saleh Robert Saleh ever decides to leave and is considering to go going to be head coach somewhere. Remember Robert Saleh. I would tell you you're a defensive-minded head coach if you're ever head coach. You'd be a defensive head coach in a quarterback driven League quarterbacks or you need everything if you don't have a quarterback and we've seen a lot of good defensive coaches. Go to the Gobi head coach job, not heavy quarterback and get fired and not have success. Why is that? I get I guess cuz the quarterback matters right but I would point out as long as you're working with Kyle Shanahan on the same team. There's always going to be somebody taken care of the quarterback. The quarterback position is never something Robert Saleh needs to worry about as long as he's the defensive coordinator with the same team as Kyle Shanahan coach. Because man, Kyle's offenses. They always run the ball very well. That's good for the defense especially in San Francisco. They run the ball very, well. Kyle Shanahan was like a wizard at creating running lanes and running the football. You learned a lot from Lana. So running about helps our defense against Kyle Shannon always has good quarterback who's winning games with a backup quarterback, Nick Mullens. He's beating a playoff team l a i I go man, Robert Downey. You want to leave again? I the longer Robert Saleh and Kyle Shanahan Stay Together the better it is for both of them. The more successful day will be and the way they would look if I'm Kyle Shannon. I am kissing. I'm doing everything I possibly can to be very kind of hey Robert you need lunch. Hey you want to talk? How can I would do a job and keep the guy in the loop and keep him around cuz man, he makes your team so much better and her Robert Saleh. I hope you recognize man. You're lucky to be paired with Kyle Shanahan who takes care of the offense. You always have a great offense all wage. score points to help your defense and if I was Robert Saleh, you're going to be are you ever going to be in a hurry to leave the 49ers to leave a great coach at Kyle Shannon with a good quarterback who again, it seems like no matter who plays quarterback. They're they're well-coached and successful. And you're going to leave San Francisco for what the Jets job the Lions, but Lana maybe Atlanta that at least have a quarterback there. I don't know. I I really truly believe that Robert Soliz got a good situation and it's going to be really hard to find a better situation than he has in San Francisco. They just bought a a pay him more keep him there. But I really want to see Robert Saleh stay in San Francisco. Keep that job and keep doing it for a long time. I beat this to death, but I really truly believe that. now Kyle Shanahan right now in my opinion I believe he's the NFL coach of the year and a lot of people have been saying well, it's going to be Brian Flores the coach in Miami or Mike Tomlin who's undefeated in Pittsburgh or even sean McVay in LA and those aren't very good answers. Although I would point out that Sean. McVay is lost not once but twice this year to Kyle Shanahan, so I don't know how you could pick Sean McVay over Kyle. Shanahan makes no sense to me. So the Forty Niners are five and six they're they're don't have a winning record right now. They have beat the Rams twice this year. And the 49ers have been decimated by injuries just plagued with them. And they played three different quarterbacks this year Jimmy Garoppolo. CJ beathard and Nick Mullens. I mean, they've had a rotating cast at every position even quarterback and it's incredibly hard in with the backup quarterback. Let alone your third string quarterback and make that work and they have they've made it work to some degree and I mean they beat a ram seem that's likely a playoff team with a backup quarterback and so impressive to me. And they beat a Rammstein. That's a playoff team with practice squad players. Oh, yeah, Kyle Shanahan's doing a great job. And so in my opinion if you get to 8 and 8 if he has a winning record in San Francisco with what's gone on in in the 49ers franchise this year to me if that happens if they have a winning record in San Francisco, I go east Coach of the Year. How do you how could you possibly dispute that? And even with a losing record right now in five and six, I still go. That's the most impressive coaching performance. I've seen all year teleport overcome with they've come to keep fighting way. They fought to still be competitive at this point in the year with the amount of people. They've lost I I just I really find it unbelievable and I think the best coaching job we've seen all year and 20/20 is Kyle Shanahan wage. There's five games left. We'll see how it stands at the end of the year. But right now even with a losing record, Kyle Shannon is in fact my NFL coach of the year as it stands right now. Okay. The steelers-ravens game finally happened six days after was initially scheduled a member of supposed to be on Thursday then Monday then Tuesday, then yesterday and Wednesday the game finally happened. It was earlier in the day like a matinee. If you didn't see it here a couple of my favorite moments. It was kind of an ugly game. But these were the moment that stood out to me number one Trace McSorley the Ravens third string quarterback had a 70-yard touchdown pass due Marquis Hollywood Brown really cool moment. I want to give a shout out to trace McSorley. There's actually YouTube channel or account. I guess that always comments on my videos on YouTube saying hey, I tend to be transmitted so early I love it. So hey, what's up Trace McSorley. I hope you comment on this video. You're awesome. I love you. Thanks for being around. I also would recommend go. Listen to the song Trace McSorley Song by Maddie brush. It's fun. It's silly look it up. I listen to this morning. I was like, this is just I was reminded like oh, yes was really really fun. So seeing Trace McSorley who's kind of a meme do very well. Oh, that's awesome. I love that. And I didn't do didn't do very well. But he had a long touchdown that to me that that's very cool. There was also a fun sequence in this game where a funds may be the wrong word. Interesting, maybe crazy weird odd. The Ravens have the ball. second-and-goal with 26 seconds left before halftime and they run the ball they get stuffed and there's a big pile at the one-yard line. So second ago from the one-yard line twenty six seconds left. They run the ball good stuff giant pile on the ground dead and the Steelers just keep laying on the ground. Like we're not getting up there just laying over each other like interlocked on the ground just like oh we can't get up where it's too hard where we can't possibly get up here in a pile on the ground and the Box just tick tick tick tick ticking away and twenty seconds go by Twenty whole seconds. The clock is out of three seconds before the Ravens can finally run to play cuz the Steelers just literally laid on the ground not getting off and the Ravens couldn't stop the wall again 3 seconds left. They snapped the ball. They throw the ball to the end zone. It's incomplete halftime halftime. The clock is run out. It's halftime and arguable you can argue with that. It should have been a penalty for delayed game by the Steelers defense. And I and I If that had been called a delay a game penalty would have totally understood I would not have argued it would have been like yeah that makes sense to me but it also didn't mind the no call and I would say that anybody's mad about that. No call I would I would argue with the rebuttal saying that the Baltimore Ravens did a really poor job managing their managing their time off before half-time. I was watching the 49ers Rams game and going into the final drive for the 49ers. They needed they have like two minutes and ten seconds left on the clock then to drive 80 yards to try to get zone or kick a field goal and Kyle Shanahan still had all three timeouts available. They had all three timeouts tell the final moments when they needed to use them. And so I point out that part of football is being able to manage time and managing your time outs and before halftime by that moment the ram the Ravens had wasted all them if I said Rams I meant Ravens if I said Rams. And the Steelers were smart. They kind of had a Savvy move for their stayed in a pile. They made they slowly got up as if it was hard to pull the bodies off of the pile and I would not again. I would not have argued if there'd been a penalty in favor of Baltimore here. But I also thought it was okay. There was a no-call partially simply because man the Ravens didn't do a good enough job managing the clock and taking care of things and you decided to run the ball with 26 seconds before halftime on the one-yard line. Like I is that the smartest thing, you know, he's throw the ball once before he tried to run I don't I just didn't understand and agree with all the clock management by Baltimore and so I didn't have a lot of sympathy for them when maybe they got screwed over by the clock. Now this was not the prettiest game Lamar Jackson did not play RG3 started for the Ravens RG3 was seven 412 passing had a meager 33 yards passing with no touchdowns had a pick-six through a bad interception got taken back for a touchdown by Joe Haden and the Steelers won. So now the Steelers are 11:00 to no. And a lot of people walked away from this game concerned about Pittsburgh saying man the Steelers they barely beat Baltimore, they 1:19 to 14 like what's going on? And I don't know like my dad literally called me. My dad was like well Zach don't you think the Steelers are not very good and I'm like, well Dad no offense. You don't know much of anything about football, but my whole thought was meant the Ravens off our Their their division rival the Ravens coaching staff knows Mike tomlin's coaching staff very very well Pittsburgh and Baltimore. These are teams that play each other twice a year for years and it's been the same coaching staff for years. They know each other intimately and pretty much anytime you get a Steelers Ravens game. Even on a year where one team is bad and one is good. It's always interesting and competitive. They just know each other too. Well, they're not have a good game one thing. You also have to remember context to your matters. This was a weird game. When's the last time the NFL played a game on a Wednesday? Can you I don't remember as it happened before it might have literally never happened before yesterday. So I it's a weird situation you got covid-19 and people in practicing who was going to play people the day before got taken off out of the game for the covid-19. Kansas City, for example that's we're losing Bud Dupree is going to really matter later down the road playing against a really good team what you need every single horse you possibly have in the stable. So it's an unfortunate choice, but I didn't walk away from the Ravens game going man. The Steelers are terrible. They struggled on offense. They a drops look out of sync. They haven't practiced very much. They're playing a team that knows him very well. I don't know. I really I don't buy into it, but I also think you have to remember Part of what makes a good football team is being able to overcome your bad game. Every team has a bad game or two every year. A really great team can overcome the bad game. We see this in college football every year. We're even the Alabama's and the Clemson's of the world have a bad game where something goes wrong and they're not perfect. You have to be able to overcome that moment and keep it going and what I learned from Pittsburgh as well, even when they're playing badly. They can overcome that and they did every year A Team a moment ABS or team plays badly. They're really really good day. We saw Pittsburgh's and they were okay. They got through it. They won the game. I don't know. I look at Pittsburgh and go they got a great head coach Hall of Fame head coach Hall of Fame quarterback. Who's still playing pretty wealthy Big Ben is getting really kind of shafted here. People are very much understanding how well Big Ben is back playing they've got a ton of weapons on offense. They have oh my gosh. They have Ray Ray McCloud. They have James Washington. They have what's the name of that guy from Notre Dame Claypool Claypool. They have you just makes you a stir. They have two good running backs. They've got an Eric Ebron a good tight and it's like so James Conner the running backs. There's another Benny Snell the running back mean there's just good all over the Pittsburgh offense. They've got a good offensive line. They got a phenomenal defense even without Bud Dupree. They're going to be really really good. So yeah, I just people keep saying like Pittsburgh do some. Good Quarterback coach weapons offensive line defense. I don't know how you doubt this team. I just I go. Yeah, they had a bad game. Every team has have had game the key is to get through that bad game and win anyway, oh Pittsburgh did so I don't know they're 11 to know and 11 and it was nothing to sneeze out of me people for whatever reason people like, well the teams that play or not very good. They won. I mean in the end of June in 2020 during covid-19. The ways they're winning are different and interesting and I I look at Pittsburgh and go they're a good team and I respect that. now in Monday Night Football the Seahawks beat the Eagles twenty-three 217 and first of all the player the game unequivocally was DK Metcalf the Seattle Seahawks receiver. He had ten catches 477 yards really the big story line off game was DK Metcalf. It wasn't a very interesting game in my opinion. Apparently before the game. The big story here is that apparently before the game Philadelphia's defensive coordinator. Jim Swartz went up to DK Metcalf said look kid. I was in Detroit with Calvin Johnson. You're not there yet. You're not Megatron yet. And Jim Schwartz as tried to kind of say he was giving him a compliment. I kind of understand what he's saying. Look you're going to be Megatron someday, like maybe he just holds Megatron to the same respect. I get it. GK apparently was angry. Like what do you mean? I'm not Megatron. Okay fine. Let me show you. Okay. I just stupid why Jim Schwartz felt the need to say that I do not understand and and so yeah, the biggest story from this game is Dick and Metcalf got criticized and then had a big game. Although I don't know it's as big as people like this kind of stuff happens all the time people talk trash constantly. It just happens at this time. You talk trash on the guy did really really well. So the story gets told that many how many coaches talk trash before game and the players are talking trash about it has a bad game or does nothing is insignificant like happens all the time. So I don't I don't think it's like the biggest deal in the world thing Pittsburgh. I think Philadelphia is really mad. Like, how could you but I it's not that big a deal to me as people are making it out to be but it is dead. The most interesting thing from this game now again other than DK Metcalf for me. This was not a very fun game to watch. They had ESPN. It's Monday Night Football. They have three-man Booth. I hate a three-man booth timings awkward. It's like winter people going to talk. When is it my turn? It doesn't feel right to me. And then the Eagles are just not a very fun football team to watch any time. I see the eagle wage. There's two teams right now that when I see them on the on the schedule I go. I don't want to watch that game. It's like I said three now, it's Chicago with Mitchell trubisky. It's the New York Jets and it's Philadelphia. I don't need any of those teams. I just they're not good. They're not fun. It's not exciting and there's a lot of bad football being played. Now on offense in particular the Eagles are they're struggling with their offensive line their strong a pass protection. You gotta kind of injuries. They don't have a lot of Talent OR weapons and I'm reaching a Breaking Point with the Eagles quarterback. Carson Wentz where I'm just like I I don't know how much longer I can keep doing this. I don't know. It makes me sad. I don't know when we're going to give up on him Carson doesn't look confident. His fundamentals are a mess and I'm starting to wonder when I watch him now and back of my head. I'm always thinking like In the backup quarterback Jalen hurts to better. Can you do a better job at quarterback? Can he be more accurate? Can Jalen hurts make better decisions? Probably and I'm I'm curious at what point is Philadelphia going to reach a Breaking Point and put Jalen hurts out there rather than Carson Wentz. I don't know. I know that Philly is in no hurry to replace them are expensive quarterback. I mean Carson Wentz is under contract at least until next year. There's an out in 2022, but they're also paying a lot of money. So if they're going to bench and they're paying a lot of money to not play that's long and confusing. Maybe they trade him. I don't know but I I personally would be like, let's get Jalen hurts in there maybe for the last five games of the year. Now. It's further complicated because they're in the playoff race in the NFC East which is even weirder. They shouldn't be they're terrible, but I I just meant I I'm ready for Jalen hurts personally. I want to see it happened. I think have to figure out what you have so that this offseason if you want to deal cars and went you can I'm sure somebody's going to be like, I'm sure that off the page or two like hey, we will give you a first-round pick for Carson Wentz. I mean that kind of deal could happen with Philadelphia and they gotta decide whether they want to take it or should take it. So I I don't know I think you play Jalen hurts soon as possible to figure out what he has but I also guess I would I guess understand you have them in practice every day. So if Jalen hurts is doing phenomenal and practice you would think that they would play him but also politics play A Part all the time. So, who knows? now do you want to say this group in Philadelphia and we'll give a shout out to Nick Foles as well. Nick Foles Carson Wentz the head coach the general manager. There were like they had a great year in 2017. They won the Superbowl. And with how we Roseman Doug Peterson Carson Wentz a Nick Foles played at the end of the year. Is it possible that that's just the best it's ever going to get in Philadelphia. They won a Superbowl time is worth a good it's awesome and it's over. I don't know. I'm asking questions here. It hurts now, but maybe at least they want a Superbowl and maybe that's the best it ever was going to be was that 2017 year where they want at all? I don't know. I don't really I don't have confidence that the Eagles are going to fix what they have. I mean, they're they're they wasted bad draft picks on receivers. They have the injuries go lower their aging Carson Wentz looks like a mess is a ghost right? I don't know. It's just a lot of stuff is going wrong in Philadelphia. And I don't I don't know that they can fix it with one or two moves. It feels like a bigger change is going to have to happen in Philadelphia. I think it starts at quarterback Carson Wentz. I don't trust them all. He's way too inconsistent of a decision maker again. I want to do with Jalen hurts house. I mean Jalen hurts is not as physically gifted maybe but man Jalen hurts is a good Vision maker and can run the ball. You can run a lot of interesting running games stuff. You probably wouldn't run with Carson Wentz. Oh, I don't know. I'm ready to move on from Carson Wentz least for this year and see what Jalen has. I don't we need to figure out if the Eagles going to keep their coach or their general manager? And it feels like a lot of changes are coming very very soon in Philadelphia. I just I want to change to happen this year now soon so we can see what they have in jail and hurts. All right. I'm going to take a short break when I returned want to talk about Tampa Bay and Kansas City will talk about the page where it's surprisingly beating the Arizona Cardinals and then we'll take a break again. We'll do it as exact at the end of the show. I think is a good question about like the Marvel Universe and there's another question. I'm really fired up about really it's going to be fun to talk about. I don't know. My name is Josh, I'm going to take a short break when I returned. We got other good stuff down the road. Hope you stick around. My name is actually taking a short break and I will be right back. All right. We are back over doing very very well on Sunday, Kansas City beat Tampa Bay 27-24 the Buccaneers lost to the cheesecake and it was a very solid game. Now. First of all, I want to say that I just love watching Kansas City play football. They play at such a high level. It's really fun. It's enjoyable especially during twenty-twenty when you got covid-19 injuries, not a normal year. It's not a lot of high-level football being played all over the NFL and so watching Kansas City feels like a treat every time I get to do it and it's again because of that unusual year covid-19 Ruiz, it's hard to make any kind of prediction. But I will say it's very likely and I think I would almost almost I don't want to guarantee again. You can't you can't guarantee anything this year. I would be shocked if we didn't see Kansas City against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC Championship game in the NFL down the road home is his amazing. By the way, every time I watch the guy play I walk away just going man. This is just incredible. He does something every game and I'm really not something. It's it's how we play is just generally He's A Step Above everybody else. I mean when I watch Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson, there's an occasional moment while I go. Oh, wow. We're in a cage really something occasional game where I go Russell Wilson was unbelievable or Deshaun Watson was unbelievable. But when I watch Patrick Mahomes, it's every single I just go she did what how he makes so many things that are difficult looking just effortless and easy. And I get he's just he's the best quarterback in the NFL and he's just a whole nother level above everybody. It's just so impressive to watch him every week and it certainly helps on a great team. I'm not trying to say like again if Russell Wilson was on break the city or Deshaun Watson on Kansas City. I don't know what we'd be saying about them. It'd probably be another thing of every week. It's unbelievable. But you have to just give them homes credit. He really is the best and there's a reason why he's life the way he is he's not overhype. He really just deserves all the praise and admiration adoration. He gets now. I want to give a shout out to Tyreek Hill in this game against Tampa Bay Ridge Hill at 13 catches. He had 269 yards three touchdowns. Just a ridiculous game for him and Carlton Davis. He's not a terrible Corner was really trying his best to God. I recycle and often Carlton Davis had some solid coverage, but when Patrick Mahomes just throwing literal perfect passes and at times as good as the coverage was a lot of the time Tyreek Hills catches were just even better. I mean he is like sometimes there's moments where Carlton Davis couldn't do any better and it was still a completed pass cuz it's a perfect throw into a tiny window Tyreek Hill ripped the ball away or I just he was winning contested situations so many times. So Shadow Tyreek Hill had a great game. And I mean he I just feel bad for Carlton gave his trying to guard him doing the best he could and he really was not match on on Sunday until they double-team, Tyreek Hill. Now Tampa Las to Kansas City and I don't hold the loss against Tampa Bay because they were supposed to lose in my opinion. That's a game like Kansas City is a better football team. I'm surprised it was as long as it was it was a three-point game. And right now the Buccaneers are really struggling with details where I mean particularly in office with the wrong routes or not getting your head around like on hot routes. We're off we're Antonia Brown for example is out of the backfield just didn't know if they Blitz I got to get my head around and wasn't looking for the ball. They've got some poor Blitz pickup and receiver. Mike Evans is a great example to where he's the guy that God has really struggled this year with Tom Brady and a lot of that in my opinion is because he's never been asked to do a lot mentally police. He's never asked you this much mentally where there's route adjustments and hot routes and you get your head around and there's all these little intricacies of the game the Tom Brady plays with that. I don't think Mike Evans ever had to deal with Mike Evans. Has always been his game has always been defined by his athletic ability. And so Mike Evans having a hard time adjusting to this offense into Tom Brady and all the little details that are necessary. He's like, I just go deep and you throw it up to me either I think is that element of that that's causing Mike Evans some problems early on that's why he's catching up and having a hard time with it. You gotta remember to Antonio Brown is new like literally joined a couple of weeks ago Leonard fournette joined the team late, right right at the training camp would have been happening Tampa Bay. They made too many mistakes to beat Kansas City in this game. They lost. I was like, yeah, of course, but I will say I mean credit needs to go to Tampa Bay. They're ever so slightly very very it's a slow process but they are making progress. I mean, they're getting better. Every time I watch them I go, you know, that's a little better from Tampa. It's a little more this little more bath and and the whole narrative the Tom Brady isn't good anymore. I just it's weird. Tom Brady's made some throws this year where I go. I mean listen to Tony Romo. Literally literally Tony Romo was talking about that game going. Yeah Brady's made some throws to see where you go. I just got some believe it's an unbelievably good throw now. There's only four games left for Tampa. There. You have a bye week week 13 coming up. The four games are played for Tampa Bay are Minnesota Atlanta Detroit and then the Falcons again for week 17. So right now the Buccaneers are going into their bi-weekly have time to watch film make adjustments, you know get healthier and currently if the playoffs happened today. Tampa Bay would be a wild-card team. I wanna remind you guys the Super Bowls in Tampa Bay this year. And if the playoffs started today the team that Tampa would be matched up against is the Green Bay Packers. Remember week 6 when the Green Bay Packers lost to Tampa Bay thirty eight to ten went and bought smacked Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers. I remember that and so I would not entirely count out Tampa Bay just yet. They were just really competitive against one of the best teams in the NFL Kansas City. They lost by three points off the Buccaneers keep making progress every time I watch them. It's a little bit better. It's still like frustratingly not quite there. But every time I watch Tampa Bay, it's a little bit better every single time and change this answer 9 and two all the attention is on New Orleans. But honestly if I'm a Saints fan, I would be hoping that my team doesn't play the Buccaneers again in the NFL playoffs because you beat them already twice this year. The last time you beat Tampa Bay by the way, New Orleans embarrassed the Buccaneers. And it's hard to beat any team three times in one year, but especially when they're angry after getting embarrassed last time you played them. And the Saints also struggled to push the ball downfield that Drew Brees. So call me crazy and I have no problem. If you want to call me crazy, but the Buccaneers could surprise people in the place. I know when they're going to figure it out. I think it's simple I really strongly believe that at some point. Tampa Bay is going to figure things out play cleaner and and make progress and just get over the hump and play really good and beat some really good football teams. And I don't know if that happens this year. Maybe not till next year. I don't know but they have a ton of Firepower. They're getting better. They've got a great quarterback. They've got a solid defense of good coaching. I just everyone wants to be the coach everyone to hate on this and people love to hate the Buccaneers I think part is cuz they have Tom Brady. I'm I'm not a doubter. I'm still I don't know when they're going to figure it out whether it's this year or next year. It could be next year. They needed a season maybe to figure things out. But every time I watch Tampa Bay, they get a little bit better make a little bit more progress. And so If I'm in the playoffs the last team I want to play is Tampa Bay. They're so unpredictable. They've got so many good players. I I just think man if you especially if I'm a Saints fan ago, man does our team match up very well with Tampa Bay and you might you might feel confident the Buccaneers. You beat the crap out of them. I understand that but if I'm a Saints fan I go the last thing I want to do is Page Tom Brady in the playoffs with Mike Evans Antonio Brown Chris Godwin Rob Gronkowski, like it's endless the amount of good players they have and they've got some good Defenders. I just think there's enough Firepower there with home showing Improvement every week that at some point. The Buccaneers are going to be very very dangerous as an NFL team. Okay on Sunday on Sunday the Patriots beat the Cardinals 2017 and look twenty-twenty has been weird here covid-19. And good football as a result stands out even more because there's so many bad games being played and bad football everywhere and teams look unprepared and I have missing key players and it's kind of took all year and I'm glad we have football. It's better to have Messi football than no football. But again good football when I see it I go. Oh boy. It stands out way more now. And the Patriots defense played some really good football on Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals Bill Belichick's doing a really good job this year at keeping the Patriot Way along that discipline. They're known for the Patriots quarterback Cam Newton. I don't we're day. He was 9 4 18 passing only 84 yards two interceptions Camden New Jersey now is best registers running the football. He's not been particularly sharp this year part of that's cuz they got no weapons. I understand that but it was a weird game where New England was actually outgained on offense by over a hundred yards. Am gonna had 298 yards total total offense. The page is only at 179. The favorites also, they lost the turnover battle. They they they were just turnovers inefficient football some bad throws some weird stuff happened. Like I was not impressed with the Patriots offense at all. But the Patriots still won the game and why is that because of their defense their defense was awesome and the patrons got a goal-line stand before halftime where the hell'd Arizona out of the End Zone on a fourth-and-goal from like the 6-inch yard line that was impressive and the Patriots defense looks so well-coached and I walked away going man. Bill Belichick is giving a masterclass right now. I'm in coaching and discipline and I just I think Bill Belichick actually might be just enjoying coaching this year cuz there's no pressure. I mean the pressure's off expectations are low. It's dead covid-19. So he gets to just have fun and I think he's the kind of guy who likes working. He likes the chess match of football. So every time the page is a played this year. It was fun is watching them. What's their game plan? What are they doing? How are people executing? I think Bill Belichick actually a guy who I think truly loves football. It's just having the time of his life to be able to be carefree not worried about the pressure of winning and just doing the best he can I think actually loves it and the mind of Bill Belichick against Kliff Kingsbury was so much fun where they kept anticipating what the other one would do Zone coverage and then a scream would come and just back and forth back and forth. What is the other guy? You knew how am I going to react and anticipate what their next move is going to be? and I just Again, the page words were so disciplined on defense. You can call a great game and it's the coach can do all the right stuff at the Players off to execute and the players did they'd know big mental errors guys are actually getting at a high level. They're in the right spots. And this game was just a reminder to me that the page where its culture was still in place the Patriot ways still there and down to get more Talent this offseason with a a lot of salary cap room to spend they probably need I think they need a new quarterback. But this game was a reminder that New England's going to be back at some point out. There's a couple of things to Patriots defense did that. I really really liked watching a couple of times on passing Downs. They only had sometimes one or two guys, even in a three-point stance like the two nose tackles depending on what said they were off and and the rest of the linebackers and DBS and everybody would just be kind of walking around pre-snap like just just walk down to safety of linebackers Milling around if these Edge rushers just Hanging out and they'd be walking around intermingling and what that does it reminded me. A lot of the Steelers defense actually, it's what that does make it hard for the offensive line to know who to block who is the mic and what are the mic is we call it for 54 and then he moves out and he switched places and now it's the other guy and it's it's really confusing to make any kind of calls and you have to do a lot of Zone and stuff on the offensive line off and I really I just thought it was so impressed with the way the page was kept getting pressure and you know disrupting Kyler Murray by getting constant pressure because of that confusing front they were running off and then unsure passing Downs. Like there was a third and three for example where this kept happening a lot on short passing Downs where they're new. Hey, they're going to throw there an empty set and caliber would take the snap and be looking at direct and and if he looks left the guy the defender on the defense of line of left. We just start jumping just jumping up waving his hands around trying to get into the passing Lane while the other side rushes and one of them was tipped up in New Jersey. Something like it's really funny to watch the play where you watch this grown man. Just jumping swinging his arms all around and Kyler face not really trying to sack. I'm just trying to wait for the ball to come so we can knock it down and gain entrance also found a way of generating a free rusher off the left repeatedly where what they did is they lined up and both a gaps and a defender in both a gaps over top of the kind of read between the guards in the center. See a gap and then they tend to rush through through both the B gap between the left tackle and the left guard and that outside of left tackle in the C Gap and every time it happened was the left guard would cover the a gap the the interior defensive lineman. The left tackle would cover the B Gap and it left the C Gap wide open. So people just kept coming for free off the left side and this happened repeatedly, every time the Cardinals ran an empty said was what the page would call and they kept doing it over and over and over again generating pressure in Arizona didn't answer. They kept not they could be leaving themselves vulnerable to a guy coming free off the edge of Kyler Murray and I'm like wow. Are you not doing anything about this? It was very weird. And I think a lot of it was because of the confusion Upfront for Arizona anyway, and so I just walked away from this game going. Look the Patriots have really no offensive weapons of a quarterback who's struggling who's been subpar the best threat from Camden disability to run the ball. But the Patriots culture of discipline is still there. It's still in place and after they reload my whole take away from this game is man at some point New England's going to be back Bill Belichick is coaching his butt off. I think it's not getting recognized a lot the things he's doing and I think Bill's having a lot of a lot of fun actually and I I on paper you go back to England should not have won that game, but they did and why do they do it? Cuz if discipline and Bill Belichick coaching and I just go man, I think that bill has gotten this far in the air and it's still not getting respect he deserves for how good of a job he's doing in New England. All right. I'm going to take a short break away into Eternal to ask Zack. What are the questions about today? Let me find I don't have them up. I need to get my phone. I'm going to take a short break. I will be I will be right back. All right, we are back over doing very very well. It is time for ask Zack my favorite part of the show in case you don't know how it works you go to patreon.com forward slash Zach shomler. You give a dollar a month again $12 a year. It's very minimal. But a dollar a month gives you access to submit questions on Patron and you can't give more if you want to please do it literally home my rent but a dollar a month gives you access you send questions on patreon now, if you submit a question, I do not guarantee to read it on the podcast my only guarantees. I'll get every single question with my eyeballs. I picked the top cut off to read as many as I can to the end of every episode now, I'm trying to do that every episode. I like doing it that way better and I want to start to John know what am I know actually, you know, what I want to read first is a there was a fun interaction on patreon in the chat where Bobby wrote in with an impossible question. You said what's up Zach? I know this may be a bit of a challenge, but could you say one nice thing about the Jets? I need something to keep me going and these historically dark times. So I don't have anything positive to say about the Jets game franchise. Maybe that Adam gase is getting fired. But that's why I want to read email Taps reply you said changes coming and that's a good thing. I guess. It's totally true. Like I can praise the Jets other than to say like well hopefully things change and smile like through my teeth. Hope like MIT Wallace & Wallace and Gromit one of the characters goes like A big like T. Smile Bobby. I don't know. I don't have any answer for you, but I'm not upset of best changes coming and I guess that's good now John writes in and says hey Zach one last question. If it's too tough to answer then you don't have to walk the holidays are typically times of joy for family, but it's but for some it's not and it can be a tough reminder or lonely. What was your first Christmas like about your brother? So you may not know four years ago. My little brother died almost five years ago now, February 8th, 2016 and Monday, honestly, this is weird holidays have never been a big deal to me. I actually my first Christmas without my little brother like it was weird, but I wasn't living at home. It wasn't like I was sitting at a kitchen table without him. I didn't it wasn't like a sense of he wasn't there. You know what I mean? I didn't I actually didn't probably probably handled better than you would think the day there was a hardest for me. Without my little brother was when I got to 100000 subscribers on YouTube and I was very excited was like a big like one of the highlights of My Life as a big freaking deal so pumped and that's the moments. I miss my little brother the most jobs like the highlights where I'm like man, I wish you could see me now where she could talk to me now like when I get married someday, it's going to suck my brother's never going to see me get married and never going to see that moment. We were so close and I think if you could see me today, he would love the show. He would love you guys. He'd love hate Ronnie love all of it. And I think he would he would love what I'm doing and feel I think I think he'd be proud of me. And so Yeah, holidays. I want to answer cuz holidays aren't I'm not I don't really like holidays. I'm kind of neither here nor there. I've kind of made my own family and my own life where a lot of the family I would consider them family is not blood relatives there people that I've I've chosen and so that's way more meaningful anyway, so that's who I hang out with on holidays anymore. I don't I don't know but I know that the highlights of my life the best moments of my life for the ones I miss my brother often the most always kind of in a dark way a little bit tainted with man. If only he could have been here only could have seen that and that's that's on a new John Luke writes in He says hi Zach love the show. So here's my question to you your local wizard approaches you and proposes the following deal. You will be followed by a crew of Mexicans soccer commentators who will do play-by-play with their signature Augusto enthusiasm of your daily life for a week. If you can go the whole week without snapping out them. He will reward you with enormous wealth the wizard will home. He also realizes this is quite a difficult Challenge and offers you the possibility of inflicting. This long week was week-long. Kerfuffle upon your most hated enemy. So do you do it off if you don't who is the Pro or son-of-a-gun you're going to be sending this torment to? Jean-Luc course I like the thought of like he's drinking and he's drinking any stricter gun. He's done. Like I don't know what they would do. But like, you know the boss know what they would do in my life for that. Like there's a fun thought that I can't say on this show. I'm sure there's like some moments where like they would honestly I don't think it'd be that annoying and I think it would be annoying after a while. But I read this question when man sounds like an easy way to get rich. I like I mean, it'd be weird you'd give up your privacy. Like I imagine they're watching you shower like they're always they're right. They're always be around and you have no privacy for you for a week people yelling at you. Like I've been doing the show and this these Mexican dude speaking Spanish. It would just be talking behind me to make no sense and be like, look it's a week of this so I can get I don't care. So if that was if that was ever a possibility, I could handle that no problem because it's like well the reward is worth it, right? I I think I do way. Like I do way harder things to get rich, you know, I mean like I would happily way harder things if it's like, hey, if you do this one thing you're incredibly wealthy afterward you mean I'd buy property in Hawaii. I keep doing strong opinion Sports to give them a wealth of the use of Hawaii and that's what I just I want to live in Hawaii. That's what I want to do some day and I absolutely I would do that now. So yeah if I had Mexican dudes yelling Spanish and i e r as if they were soccer commentating my life I could do that and I think no problem. It'd be annoying and again the Privacy part to be the weirdest part of that but I whatever like if I know I'm gonna get wealthy after wage. Yeah, I'll do I'll put up with it and I don't really have any enemies. I don't really wish ill on anyone. So there's no one I would also like if it's your enemy and you give them that do they get the money to you know, I mean like I did not know that I wish on anybody and I don't know that I wish on anybody. So I No, no, I don't think I would give it to anybody. I think it was take for myself and say mad given that money when it's over Carter says where do you think Detroit should send Stafford? So this is not a lot of people been asking about this. I chose Carter's here cuz Carter's was the most fun to answer where A lot of people are saying where do you want staffer to go? That's how I this question says Where should Detroit send Stafford? So I want to see Matthew Stafford go to like Pittsburgh or New England because that makes sense cuz their home team trading to the AFC. I'd love to see him in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan the be amazing like watching Kyle Shanahan coach Matthew Stafford with that roster. Oh my gosh you defying. But also the Lions should worry about anything other than themselves. So where should the Lion's trade Matthew Stafford? They trade him to the highest bidder. I mean whoever gives you the most and the biggest Haul is where you send Matthew Stafford. We're about yourself. Whatever the highest amount of draft picks of the best players. You can get that's where I should send Matthew Stafford who cares if it's anybody as long as it's probably not a team in your division, but you tried Matthew Stafford anywhere that people are giving you the highest amount of stuff or does that make sense? That doesn't I don't think Detroit has to worry about is it going to work for Matthew Stafford? They need to worry about is going to work for us. What are we getting in the deal? So that's what Detroit needs to worry about themselves not about the rest of the NFL in this move and a lot of people kind of seem to be forgetting that as they send me questions and DMS. It's I want to live in a fantasy world of where is Matthew Stafford going to go? I'd love to see him like again Pittsburgh New England San Francisco, right? That'd be awesome. The reality is he's probably going to go to some crappy team that like that the the Cowboys right? That's not even a game. They're the same during the NFC as well, but he's going to go to a team. That's kind of anti-climactic probably and that's unfortunate. That's all honest. I mean maybe goes maybe the Jets trade for Matthew Stafford something like a trial like a team or like a team or we are grown. I would love to be proven wrong. I'd love to have Matthew Stafford go to a team where I went. Yes. I'm so happy. That's an amazing trade. I feel so good about it, but I I don't know that that's actually going to happen. I don't have a lot of optimism that we as fans or going to get the trade. We are hoping for with Matthew Stafford Kenny writes in his life back, and you could only keep one of your five senses, which sense would you keep and why would it be site? So you keep watching film or did we taste so you could always have the Glorious Taste of Chex Mix hitting you just buds. Well you work, let me know he's as for me it sound as a musician if I lost my hearing I would go insane. Thanks Kenny from Kyle. Thank you Kenny. Love you. I appreciate you dead. So what sense would I keep so I got my question before maybe saying something like what did he lost one of your senses, right? I'm losing one of your senses is way less of a big deal to losing four four is a big deal. So the five senses our site with your eyeballs sound with your ears hearing smelling stuff with your nose that's taste with your tongue and also probably part of your nose and touch with your hands and with everything right every nerve ending that can touch and feel so First of all, if it last four of my five senses, I have no idea how would make money I feel I could be kind of useless where I guess that's maybe the question. Am I am I paralyzed with like, can I just see can I move like can I touch stuffed up? I can't feel it. Can I still drive a car? Even I can't feel anything? I don't know cuz with my if I had eyeballs, so I would keep my eyes right my our eyes are actually I think kind of underrated as a defense. They're so important to so valuable and we treat them kind of like crap. I think it you have to really value your eyeballs and keep them healthy and wear sunglasses and protect your eyes right at all cost. We're very took valier. Like all right is going to be the forever. Well, if you lose your eyes, there's not really it's one of the few things your life. If you lose it, you actually cannot replace it like at all. You're just not you get two eyes your whole life and that's that's pretty much it off. We should actually a little bit more defensive of our eyeballs, but can I If I talked like if I lose four of my five senses, all I can do is see things right? Can I still talk? I just can't hear it. Like and then could I do my job if I couldn't hear myself? I don't know at least I could at least even if I couldn't do a podcast anymore if I could still talk cuz it was found. You wouldn't know how what page you're hitting should be hard to know what you're saying. But if I could get a sentence out, at least I could communicate with the world and operate a little bit or I could just always see if I have no feeling can I still write and stuff with paper? I don't know cuz I can still see on the paper like what I'm writing. So, I don't know. It's a confusing question. I know that if I could use my eyeballs and I could still use my hands wage and feel what I was touching of my hands. I'd be able to watch football I'd be able to do a lot of stuff I'd be able to I can play video games I can read now. I don't want to lose any sense of value my senses. I'm very happy. I will say if I could give up one or two. You can take smell most of the smells. I smell are terrible. Anyway, like cat poop smells horrible. I don't need to smell that ever again. And if I lose the bad smells I may lose a good smells. But how much do I smell something I go. Wow. What a comforting smell. Usually what I notice the smell. It's negative not positive and you can even taste. I mean, let's be totally honest. I bet I would lose weight. If I couldn't taste anything. I probably would stop eating for pleasure and comfort so I'd probably just eat way less. I probably only way to survive. So be eating it'd be more robotic and more out of Duty and sense of obligation. That would be cuz I want to eat cuz it's fun. It's probably good for me. I'd probably lose weight. Actually if I if I lost my sense of taste and if I could just you know here see and touch then I could do my job watch movies play video games. I don't need smell or taste really at all to operate as a pretty functioning like I like tasting things right, but I think if I if I never tasted again, it would probably just make me healthier. So I I don't know I'd miss food and probably let me lose weight and gain, I just it's an interesting thought like site is my most valuable. A lot of people can operate site is the one thing they've lost and they're fine. I don't want to learn how to read Braille. I don't want to do audio books. I love watching movies. And if I could watch a movie, I thought that'd be awesome. So but definitely if I if I couldn't keep eyesight then I'll definitely keep hearing cuz then you can listen to podcasts and movies and listen to audiobooks. I mean and I don't know I just as long as I I would want to keep us like a sense that would allow me to still be entertained. My whole life centers are an entertainment. I love entertainment and that's what I would want to do have left final question Laden rights and he says thoughts on the Marvel Cinematic Universe. So there's nowhere no guide. In fact if anyone listens to this question like hey, I want you to talk more about X Y or Z like feel free to write in more about movies or the Marvel Cinematic Universe, whatever like if you hear me say something you're like, I want you expand on that right in I'll do my best to do it, but generally about the Mars. About Universe. I love Tony Stark. I think Tony Stark's a great character well-written compelling. I thought Spiderman was great like Tom Hollands awesome and bring in Spider-Man things more fun. And I like the whole sequence from my two. Favorite MCU movies are I think Thor Ragnarok is unbelievable. It's so funny. It's actually if there was one thing MCU movie alone and forgetting the rest. That's one that one in black panther are probably the two they could stand alone the best. I love the director of Thor Ragnarok taika. Waititi is from New Zealand. He's phenomenal. My second. Favorite MCU movie is Black Panther. It's a really great movie. I'm sad, you know that the Bozeman's gone. It's going to be terrible. Marvel's cool. It's not my favorite. I personally I agree Narrows my favorite superhero Batman's great. I I do like dark and gritty mostly but I will say what the MCU nailed DC can't find the right tone. They're all over the place. MCU was like, here's our Niche. We're fun. It's a good time. It's light-hearted and being fun is keep people like fun movies. And that's with the MCU really is it's not dark and gritty it's just a good time. I also I loved end game. I think that that to part was it to was it for the Avengers movies were awsome. Like it was just a good time at that Professor Hulk and end game like Professor Hulk resolved fat, I guess that's fat for and Professor Hulk together in that, you know, they're playing fortnite. I thought it was awesome. I really enjoyed that a lot. And then again I go back to as I think around the MCU like I come back to Robert Downey Junior Robert Downey Junior was just so great as Tony Stark. He's the face of that franchise dead. And I already J, man. He was a great Sherlock Holmes. He was a great Tony Stark and I really I mean I'm sad we're not going to get more Tony Stark. I mean even the bad the mid I think the second Iron Man movie is probably the most weird and not as compelling. But any one of those movies you sit down and watch you get sucked into an Iron Man movie like that. It's so good. It's so interesting and Yeah, that's all I have to say by the MCU unless you ask me a lot more but I think who plays vision? I was watching some movie recently where they actor played Vision. I don't think it's Paul. I don't think it's maybe it's Paul Bettany, but I don't think it's Paul Bettany make it is Paul Bettany to replace Vision has been in a couple rolls and I went. Oh, that's impressive. Wow. Yeah, I think it may be this Paul Bettany. I don't remember Paul Bettany from Guy. What's his in? I think he's in The DaVinci Code. He plays like that priest guy who was like an assassin. He's in what's that Margin Call? That's a good movie. Zachary Quinto. I'm just rambling now, but I guess I got to go. I love you. I appreciate it. Hope you have a great day. I'll see you tomorrow. Got to find episode tomorrow. I'll do NFL predictions will do all kinds of stuff. My name is Akshay Kumar. I'm going to guess not take a break. I'm going to go. I'm going to go edit this podcast and I watch more football tonight. So I love you. Hope you have a great day. But bam we are by the way as you're listening to this know that it takes me about four hours to get it uploaded. So I'm in the middle of watching the Giants Bengals. I'm going to be watching I want to watch the Bills Chargers game tonight. So as you're listening to this do be aware. I'm watching football this very moment. Love. You. Have a great day, but I'm bam we are done.

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591. 10 Takeaways from Week 3

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

35:11 min | 4 months ago

591. 10 Takeaways from Week 3

"And now move the sticks 10 takeaways from week 3 with Daniel Jeremiah Bucky Brooks and read Louis. What's up? Everybody? Welcome move the stick presented by Zaxby's DJ and with here today are good buddy. Bucky Brooks. Normally obviously on the move the sticks podcast here on the movie six video shows, but have a little connectivity issues today with buck is going to have to pick it up next week. It's just a sign of the times. You know, we're we're all trying to do the best we can hear I will say no connectivity issues on offense in the NFL right now off every game in the NFL. We are averaging over fifty points a game. This has been the highest scoring start to a season in NFL history and you think that the Monday night or Thursday might add to that per game average of over fifty points between the juice of the Ravens. We allowed to get through before we get to that. All right. Well, let's jump in here. We got 10 takeaways to get you won't you delete a software you go. All right. Here we go off. Wilson is the Eraser a gentle form and Rodger Russell was sent as time. But if you don't take a break the catch a Seahawks. Oh, I love it rusts out there making Arnold Schwarzenegger's character. Jon Krueger from the 1996 action. Flick the Eraser quite proud, by the way that movie made over two hundred thirty million dollars box up some big one. I think Russell Wilson might surpass that in career earnings though the way he has been playing. So let me get to it here. Russ erases your mistakes looking at u d k Metcalf for wasting sixty yards in the air Surefire touchdown deep all we've seen all season long and Leon wedded it at the end and it ended up being a Touchback, but then Roscoe's back to him for what would be the game-winner at the end on another terrific explosive play there for the Seahawks. Okay. So Russ also erases your pre-season Notions of the Seahawks offense. They are winning in the past game right now Russell Wilson second straight game with five touchdown passes. Russ. DJ erases records is 14 TD passes most in NFL history through the first three weeks of a season Russ erases. Your defense has issues because the seat box came into the game Dead last in Total Defense and gave up a ton of yards again to the Cowboys but still Russell Wilson is able to figure things out Russell races deficits and other come-from-behind Victory. Here's the Seahawks in week three R Us even races Drama DJ. Okay, we're talking about 12 one-possession victories now since 2019. That is the most in the league over that time lastly Russ erases your hope. Okay, he is a hope killer. He is a Dream Crusher his play right now. DJ reminds me of I want to say like 2009 to 2000. 13 Drew Brees when every time he dropped back to pass you expected it to be completed if it was an incompletion you were shocked. He also kind of reminds me of Aaron Rodgers during my Lions fan page over the lines would play the Packers jump out to an early lead. You just kind of expected Aaron Rodgers to lead them back. That's what Russ is doing right now and he will also erase any doubt of his MVP contention with this season. I love how you use your lines fandom and the past tense is not very long to me you had to quit on the team, but you can't just quit you left nothing to do with them anymore by take away from this game and talk about on the aftermath was so max protection to man routes down the field a cowboy secondary was a mess a communication was poor as a quarterback. We called that kind of a a flat roof line off will talk about on that black guy was when you have your safeties kind of settle your quarterback, you're keeping an eye on the safeties in that roof line. Are they expanding the roof line or is it Contracting and when you go and got two two men route and you have a dog At roof line and you've got Max protection. They're going to beat you over the top and that's what Russell Wilson did repeatedly in this game. So big game for Russell Wilson got the MVP right now. I don't think there's any doubt about that through the first three weeks off me a slope. You need a slope on the roof. I need a slope. Yes, you do not want a flat roof. It's not going to end. Well, all right. Let's get to my takeaway here. Let's go send a Night Football Aaron Rodgers the age limit truck. They think the head off the jobs Rogers rolls to the right and wide open for the touchdown is Robert tonyan junior. He was all alone after the fake hair off off and Green Bay now leads by two stores. That was a big one. Well, we talked about trucks and trailers all the time. I move the sticks the quarterbacks of the trucks. They can pull the whole team behind them. Whereas you have some quarterbacks who are trained or dependent on the truck to pull them along for the ride. And Aaron Rodgers is a quarterback who makes everybody around him better and it's his graduate-level play. It's the way he manipulates coverages with song. Their roles pump fakes moving safeties with his eyes. There's one playing this game where he just gives a little nod to the flat you pull the corner up. He throws it right over his shoulder. There's the play-action the Box the misdirection. His ball-handling is outstanding. He just does everything at such an elite elite level and I know people are going to talk a bunch about Jordan love and did that motivate him and was that you know, is that a long conversation the guys, you know, I don't I don't know that you can dispute it the way that he's playing right now and he is dialed in from from the tiniest play fake Rhett to what he's doing all the way down the field. He's he's locked in on the flipside what's going on with the Saints right now like really what is the problem for New Orleans? Sean Payton seems really frustrated with the way the defense is played and rightly. So, Georgia penalty there it is 18 penalties, by the way, for over two hundred yards. The last two weeks alone. This team is playing undisciplined football. I mean, Sean Payton said it himself off. Both sides of the ball but this this point from Drew Brees. I mean this reads like this is a team in real trouble. I mean, it's like based on the last two losses. We need to take a hard look at what we're doing and how we're doing it and that's something we've never had to question in New Orleans. It always seems like the plan has always been a good one and you know, whether they got now executed, you know was a storm another game or another day, but but for the offense, maybe it was a symptom of no Michael Thomas we'd get that. I mean, he's a premier receiver in this league. But again, Drew Brees not a single attempt. Well enough. Yeah. See well enough off by the way, well enough that line that line by the way was about one play call. You can read between the lines on Drew Brees saying we need to evaluate what we're doing. That's clearly about. Well, yeah bring it tastes him. He'll in there and then Darius Smith forces the fumble on the bed exchange. It's kind of like a bad almost like a bad read-option relationship there and then ball security was just dead. Table for Taste of an after that as he was trying to take it himself in Stereo Smith recovers and that was a real turning point in this game and had nothing to do with Drew Brees, you know, and it was you know, the defense like and they've had that trouble one thing is for sure Alvin kamara's healthy a dude is absolutely phenomenal when he is a hundred percent and we saw that but they wasted a huge day from Alvin Kamara. So that would that's my takeaway are so I'm going to get us to our next take away here that Josh Allen does it again for the bills out of the pistol here is Alan with Singletary behind him back to throw looking Left End Zone in his thoughts touchdown Bells. It's crossed for the go-ahead score in the final seconds. Don't look now. But Josh Allen is launching himself into the early nineties. Buffalo Bills Glory Days folklore here with his first three games in his 2018 season. He has now surpassed Jim Kelly for the most total touchdowns by Bills quarterback Kids franchise history through the first three games. He's got 12 Kelly had 10. That was the year that Kelly took the bills to the Superbowl. Although if you know you were just looking back in the nineties that was half of the years in the nineties. So what Josh Allen is on a historic Pace right now and it was about to be that strong line of oh boy here come the bills again, you know, they've they give up a huge lead and somehow Josh Allen with the aid of perhaps a questionable pass interference call down. There is able to find a way to still get the job done and I think right now out of quarterbacks taken in a top 10 in that draft class three years ago. He is by far leading the way Jose. I look I think it's fun to watch. It's also fun to watch Aaron Donald in the second half but the Rams comeback attempts falls short Josh Allen big reason why yeah to me watching the tape the biggest difference between Josh Allen year one to year three where he is right now is trust. He was a see it throw it guy coming out of Wyoming. He's got such a big arm and a lot of guys with big arms have these issues where it's just not anticipation because you can rely on your arm, like guys come out of your brakes and put it on them. He is throwing with all that are Mobility he possesses now, you're starting to see the trust and the knowledge he has in the system. So he's got the knowledge of took offence. He's got the trust with guys like Beasley and digs and in these weapons that he has at the balls coming out before they're out of their break and you can't defend it when you have that combination of velocity in any stock get more accurate. And now you add anticipation which is added into his game. There's nothing there's nothing you can do to slow that down. That's why I mean if we're talking about Russell Wilson, it's the the clear MVP. This is the runner-up does farthest off. Oh, yeah, no question and look it's silly to even talk about MVP said week three I get it. There's a lot of there's a lot of season left to be played. You know, the other thing that I'll mention is Stefon Diggs has proven to be such a key Acquisitions Bills team like silver is going to give us some details on that on the aftermath today. So depending on what time you take this show in be sure to tune into the aftermath 3:00 to 6:00 eastern time Thursday. All right, let me get us to our next takeaway back-to-back for me. This is takeaway number for and that is the 49ers have the best depth in Player Development in the NFL right now. That's Jeff Wilson jr. Now into the game take it to him. I was going to roll right for the lab to Wilson jr. Screen big block touchdown. San Fran Cisco hot dang a clean sweep of MetLife Stadium this year for the San Francisco Forty Niners beating the Jets and the Giants in consecutive weeks all the way out east and I'm not sure DJ that there is a front office and a coaching staff in closer lockstep and with a better working relationship in Synergy than the 49th in the front office in their coaching staff John Lynch Adam Peters Martin, Mayhew that whole Talent evaluation and roster building crew knows what the Kyle Shanahan coach and his coaching staff wants and they get it and they and then of course, it's up to Shanahan's crew to develop that talent and we're seeing it missing there for best skill-position players on offense Jimmy Garoppolo Raheem mostert Deebo Samuel George Carlin you get contributions from Jeff Wilson from Jerick McKinnon from Ross. Dwelley at tight end and from Nick Mullens who goes for over three hundred yards and has an over 100 passer rating in this game against the dog. So I know Mullins has had some experience in the system and its played well before so that's not necessarily a surprise. But that's on the talent evaluation crew for identifying and on Kyle Shanahan screw for continuing to develop off the depth behind their starters on defense You could argue them missing four of their best players on defense Dre Greenlaw Nick Bosa Richard Sherman D for Solomon Thomas am not there and they still get contributions from guys. Like Dion. Jordan is a cast off a couple of times already in the league. He comes up with this act as does Kerry Hyder and that's that talented and Deep South Front for the 49ers coach by Chris kusura, cuz we've talked about on this podcast before they do a phenomenal job. And yes, it was against maybe the worst team in the AFC and we to maybe the worst team in the NFC and Thursday 3, but nobody with that type of injury list goes into an NFL stadium inputs that kind of win on another NFL team. That's not the 49ers game. You know that that crew has it Rollin and this could end up being you know, obviously it's a negative to lose those guys but to see how they're performing in their absence real positive moving forward. You nailed it there and the only thing I would change is we flip it over to the Giants just real quick Daniel Jones been the leading rusher for this team two of their first three games. They're leading rusher as a running back. I believe saquon had five or six yards in the first week 28 yards LED their running backs in the second week and they had ten yards from their back that led this week. So they have yet to have a running back over twenty eight yards and either three games. So may I know Daniel Jones has turned the ball over a little bit the fumbles those continued to plague him and be an issue had an interception here, but What are you supposed to do a second-year quarterback and you have zero you are the Run game there. I just don't know how you how you judge him. I need to get him some help here. They do it, It's going to be a long year. If you're a fan of New York football trouble. No bueno. It's going to be a long one. So get ready for the draft will be will be talking a lot about those teams. Once we get to April. I can promise you that. All right, let's keep it moving here with the next take away and that is take away number five. And that is the Philadelphia Eagles are also lucky they play in the NFC least. Oh boy Thursday, mine yard field goal attempt for J. Kelly Heritage and now kind of leave Flags fly. Don't sell vehicles got a oh goodness. Oh on a field goal to win it a five-yard penalty inexplicable just a microcosm of their day. You get you jump when you get a chance to kick a game-winning field goal, which then leads you to a punt to end up in a tie against the Bengals team that everybody knows is clearly in rebuilding mode with Joe burrow who will get to in just a second. But as bad as it's been a Carson Wentz, I don't want to use the word broken but it's it's breaking I guess would be what I'd say. I've never seen him just missed throws like this. It's got miles Sanders streaking down the sideline. He misses it. The decision making has not been good. So when you're losing accuracy and your decision-making poor, that's kind of where you hang your hat as a quarterback. That's very concerning the pass rush at least was able to heat up Joe burrow and got him eight times for eight sacks hit him. I think eighteen times in this game, but secondary had breakdowns again. So the good news for them read is as I said, it's it's the NFC lease the divisions not running. Away from them but man this is this is the look of a bad football team right now a winless football team through three weeks. I don't think anybody saw that coming. Well, no not as we had talked about on this very show me that the Eagles were going to be the only team in the division with a head coach and a quarterback returning fish here from the previous season, you know, like these got nothing nothing's really new. You know, this is something that these to you know, Peterson and Carson Wentz have been working together now for five years. It's just it's it's strange to think that this is where we are and I can't I can't imagine that all Sean Jeffries home and rhaegar make that much of a difference now, I can see if you know Brandon Brooks and you know healthy fully healthy Lane Johnson Jason Peters that whole crew, you know, maybe makes a little bit of a difference. I thought also something interesting to follow is Carson Wentz decided to tuck it run quite a bit in the same. In fact ran more this game than he has since tearing his ACL whole way back in 2017. So that's up to follow moving 4 a.m. I guess you know maybe trying to get into a little bit of a rhythm that way it just it's not working right now, but I tell you what on the flip side as you're going to get to here for Cincinnati. It's something small box or two for dzhokhar own company. Yeah, they've got their quarterback. I mean their offensive line stinks right now and he took a beating in this game, but they could rattle them. I thought you know several times look like you'd have been knocked out of the game. And I think there's some downside the building there in Philadelphia that that thought he wouldn't get up from some of the hits that he took was so vicious but yet he continued to get back up. He remained accurate through all that goes over three hundred yards again and and keeps their team the game really feeding Tyler Boyd. The last thing I'll add on them. There's a play they ran in this game that's going to be copied all over the league and that is when you see that what we call kind of a picket fence or a sticks defense. So when a third-and-long third twenty and you line up all your defense along the first down marker and just say we're going to you know, put kind of a protection around this first down marker. A lot of teams have done that. I see the charge do a lot with Gus Bradley and the dog Yard of situations the Bengals just dumped a little screen there and basically what it turned into was a kick offered. Yes, and now you've got you've got fifteen yards where the space you've got a backpack Vision with four or five blockers out in front of them to try and pick off the Defenders and they popped it on a believe was a third twenty something. Yeah, you're going to see that that's going to be copycat you're going to you're going to get teams out of that picket fence off by running that Ploy easier to get those offensive linemen out and not get caught up in the wash there as well with everybody doing, you know release. Yeah, exactly. And you know, the last thing I'll say here about the The Bangles is I think it's going to be interesting to follow what they do at wide receiver for the next couple of years. I feel like the swan song has sung if that's the thing on John Ross who was a healthy scratch in this game off a first-round pick a drink green plan on the franchise tag in a game Run where we watch t Higgins scored two touchdowns. So, you know in Tyler Boyd, obviously they paid him and rightly so he's been a good job. Player for them and they they gosh thankful. They have them so, you know, I think I think that'll be interesting Higgins Boyd, you know, whatever else they figure out there moving forward as they try to build this huge fence around Joe burrow. All right, I'll give this to our next take his think away number six. And here we go. The Patriots are still chameleons car takes the snap match up in the end zone cars in general. Going to be a savior the Patriots collapsed the quarterback Derek Carr sack with features wise Jr. Coming away with a football and they're going to say that he was across the goal. He was contacted out of the End Zone off the Patriots. Well coming out that they not only had a safety. They think they got a touchdown things didn't go well for the Raiders on Sunday in Foxboro. They've been in that situation before in that situation not necessarily in that building, but you know what I'm talking about. I want to talk about the Patriots offense though because Cam Newton. I thought said it best quote after the game said we want to put defenses in fits knowing that we have wage. Many different ways to beat you and then showcase that you're through these first three weeks. We've won it all ran through camp on the ground led the team in rushing pair rushing touchdowns week to Camp begins to are down a bit against Seattle Thirty or forty four three hundred ninety-seven passing yards, and he still was potent on the ground as well with the ball in his hands. We three hams most mature sat line yet as a patriot and they still figure out a way to put points on a board. In fact, he led them on six scoring drives by 250 rushing yards, and he only had twenty seven of them. So he Michelle in a huge day Rex Burkhead or or bur Ki as cam the nickname generator, you know calls him and three touchdowns. So they figure out ways to suck even without Tom Brady. This is still a game play independent team defending they're going to try to figure out you know, the best way for them to beat you and may change in the course of a game, but they have that ability which I think you know with something week off. The little bit heading into the offseason whether you know with Cam at the helm they could become and still be that versatile team week-to-week. We're certainly seeing it Bill Belichick Josh McDaniels added again. And I I am curious your thoughts here DJ you saw the the meme or the gifts. Now that's going viral right with cams blinking down the bench. Like what were they taught? Like? What could what could they kill her? If she actually said to cam to make him make him come up with that sort of reaction. So I got me thinking a little bit like was it was it to kill Harry saying something about oh, I listen to a podcast on Thursday and camels like what no. No you could never write you can't possibly be serious. I don't know. Those are just my thoughts. I don't know what you had on them. I think that's pretty accurate. I think I could go a couple different directions with that. I mean, it's it would kind of be like, you know, you give Erica choice to be involved. With the sticks podcast or produce the around the NFL podcast these shows the around the NFL podcast like what really really that's really good as well really good. I could have been something like hey, I heard I was playing pick-up basketball the other day with Gregg Rosenthal and then what and just slide right off the off the bench. So I don't know who knows what it could have been will not know for sure. All right. Yeah, let's get let's keep it moving here. I'll get to my next one here. The Browns the Cleveland Browns, they found their identity Mayfield under Center gives the ball Chap's coming out to the left. He's getting led by Wyatt teller. He said a 58 Jetta side corner. Down the job. He's done it again is amazing. Now. This is a Cleveland Browns team that clearly is decided that their best formula win football games off the football take the bottom Baker's hands take some of that pressure off of him play good defense rush the passer with Myles Garrett as he had another big game there. He's my pick for defensive player of the year before the season started and I think Got a shot at that thing. But but read this this team does not look anything like team. We saw open up against the Baltimore Ravens. They've they've kind of morphed in decide who they're going to be. Yeah, I would agree with you on that one and I will say that on the Washington side of things. We had any Antonio Gainey golden citing although AGG. He got founded on the sidelines on an end-around by Carl Joseph former first-rounder the Raiders showing up here in Cleveland in the back of that secondary also had a big interception of Dwayne Haskins, which kind of brings me to this question where we at askance now three weeks since that's a really good throws had some in this game. In fact, I laser to Dontrelle Inman for I believe that first touchdown of the game, but also ends up with the three interceptions on defense really really unfortunate to see Chase young leave early in this game and not come back with the groin injury. Although we're told that it's not expected to be a real serious groin injury, so maybe wage Back sooner than later but for Washington, you know, I still don't know what to make of Haskins in that offense and Cleveland know clearly as you mentioned give it to the running backs and let them let them work. Oh, well, I'm going to do something that's rarely done in the media right now. I'm going to extend some Grace and I'm going to I'm going to look at these three factors Young quarterback. No off-season new coach gave him some Grace to lower your expectations of what you think. You're going to get from Dwayne Haskins this year. It's just not set up for him to be successful this guy and they're not good upfront still need more weapons on the outside, you know to go along with what they hang out there. So, you know, I like scary Terry but they need to get somebody else to help McLaren out there. So yeah and gaining old is not there yet. So I I don't I'm not going to issue any verdicts here. I'm not I'm not either this year. Yeah. I'm not either I just that's what you know, it felt like like we're in that spot like we don't know, you know, we're I don't know what we exactly what we have just yet and you're right. It's probably unfair to truly evaluate here. Yep. Get three games into a season that had no real offseason. So that's where I'll get us to where we have here. We going to give us the one working. Take away number eight. Okay, that is patience mam hang off for Mike Vrabel the Titans snap Seth character. Holy Toledo 55 yards for the lead. Wow. So that is quite the departure from Stephen gostkowski's Tennessee Titans. Give you all the way back in week one where he missed two field goals had another one blocked missed an extra-point as well. That was the type of performance in week one for a kicker that finds yourself on the mundane a transaction League email, although in that case. It would have been Tuesday cuz they played on Monday night yet still Mike Vrabel exercising a little patience with the former Patriot. I'm not sure who I'm sure he knows quite well, right and even in week to another missed extra point, but was much better still variable sticking with the veteran kicker and on Sunday. Guess the absolute MVP for Tennessee open with two field goals answered to Vikings touchdowns with another pair of field goals one for 50 plus then in the final six minutes of the game off. Another two field goals both from over fifty yards one 4:54 and then the fifty five yarder for the win for Tennessee. And you know what I loved about this afterwards as I learned via Terry McCormick of Titans Insider. It was a sock took a sock off on his kicking foot which you know, but don't do it on a plane, but I guess if she got to take your sock off to put it through the uprights, you know do it right and all the things of famous socks of Plenty sock from Curt Schilling. I mean now we going we don't got no sock here for Stephen Gostkowski that leads the guide to six field goals helps the Titans get to 3, you know now does guess Kowski last after that week one if variable and if that's the Titans aren't familiar with his work and what he had done in New England. I don't know but in this case patience proves very valuable for a kicker and for Tennessee well off. Add this on the kicker front. I think if you look at the teams that are indoors, right and I see the Chargers are at Sophie's Stadium. Right? And so I've seen what bucker did last week and I've seen through a couple of games in there. It's it's you know, it's it's a open air Stadium but with the canopy, right so it's literally perfect kicking conditions. You have no fans in the stadiums. You're kicking in doors in faith in Minnesota. It is the driving range for these guys. Like they're not even flirting with the uprights on these kicks that I've been watching when they're playing indoors. I mean, there's there's something to be said and it's not just the noise. It's fans move around it's the energy and the pressure that's in the building. If they're none of your pin drop in there. It's just it's bizarre, but I think it is a reason why we see some of these big kicks from kickers it is perfect kicking off environment. All right. We'll keep it moving here the game that I was at the Chargers and the Carolina Panthers the Chargers trying to come back in that ball game came up a little bit short, but my takeaway was on the Carolina side of things and that was dead. Good day for a couple of Carolina rookies Herbert on the back pedal being pressured throws underneath and it's caught the hook-and-ladder, but it's dropped balls loosen 220 the Panthers fall on it. And Carolina is going off when this football game the first win of the Matt rhule era. Well, you heard it. There are very close to pulling off the hook and ladder there to win the game Chargers but read they didn't quite get it done. I will say with Justin Herbert to get the ball inside your one-yard line under two minutes no timeouts and to get your team down there and have a shot to try and win the game was a good sign for the Young quarterback in for the for the organization that going forward but I do want to stick the other side with the Carolina Panthers here Jeremy Chen their second round pick 12 tackles in this game was all over the field. I saw it in the two previous games. I watched they play them everywhere you can you can come off the edge you can cover in the slot but his speed is real and it plays and he's been outstanding for them thus far I think some people took offense to it, but I I think he's the best defensive player on their team all birth. His third game in and then Derek Brown up front who hadn't done a whole lot in the in the first couple of games had three tackles-for-loss in this game reset the line of scrimmage. You saw the power able to push the pocket not a ton of of pass-rush ability at this point. I'm still developing in that area but his size and strength kind of reminded me of of Sue, you know, and so those years were Sue was you know, five five six seven sack guy. I think that's what Derek Brown is going to get too. I don't think he's going to be a double-digit guy. I think he's going to be something that dominates against the Run. He's going to get you a handful of sex every year. We also see Troy krisle been getting some running corner or the Panthers as well so I can make a couple plays uh there and you know, we haven't seen a ton from YouTube Grossmont yet, but you know, maybe that's coming as well off the edge, but they spend everything they had on defense. So it's you know, you're going to hit on a couple of these guys on the defensive side of the ball for the future the question. I'll have the you on the Chargers is and look I know all the 4 Turbo. First aren't on the rookie quarterback. Justin Herbert. He did have the one interception in the fumble as we talked about. Well, what does to 300-yard passing performances from Herbert in a two losses for the Chargers do for Anthony Lenz decision. When if Tyrod Taylor is eventually back in healthy? Well, it's going to be interesting because you have some of those boo-boos right which you would assume that Iraq would make those mistakes, but I can show you a list twice as long of the big time plays that Herbert made on conversions. I think every twelve of fifteen or something like that on third Downs in this game was ridiculous. He came back with his legs. He made some big-time stick throws. He may throws on the move. So there's a lot to build off of the Chargers though. Just again, it's been there there Bugaboo for the last couple of years. It's just been turnovers. Yeah. This is a team scored more than 20 points in any of the three games this year despite moving the ball up and down the field the last two weeks against the Chiefs and and and this week against the Carolina Panthers. They just have been able to maintain possession. So yeah, yeah. Yep. I don't know. It'll be able to see I know Anthony Lynn does not like turnovers and and Herbert had a couple in this game, but it's hard to ignore what he did to give this team a chance to win. He was not the problem five drops when you broke down the tape in that game. So they've got some other issues to to work on. What's what's the final take away here, but I believe that is up to you my friend. Oh, that is me. Hey Al the the Bears quarterback change and Bucky phrased it. Yes, he did in the nick of time. Here's the snap go to rush. They throw as he said into the yard touchdown middle of the episode of beautiful thrown off Dan's mother had a bears have delayed. So stop me. If you've heard these three things before Bears fans were not happy with Mitchell trubisky and and how he was playing in a ball game. Nick Foles comes off the bench to save the day and the Falcons gave up a lead late in the whole world. I feel like I've seen all three of these movies before but yet that's where we found ourselves in this Bears off. Kings game and going back and watch the tape the you know kind of the issue with trubisky. First of all did not play terrible in this game just missed a couple opportunities had a double post where he missed Anthony Miller which would have been a touchdown. They had a double move with with treat cone on the outside. He threw it out of bounds. He would have shot at a big play there. So missed a couple of those throws was a little bit late on a couple progressions but yet their opportunities were guys weren't fighting for the football Jimmy Graham on the interception allows a Defender to cross his face. Allen Robinson wasn't really winning as much as they should have in some in some contested opportunities that he had then you get to Jake Paul's at the end of the game hits the game-winner on the same double post you hit the Miller on the throw. So they get that done. He Allen Robinson goes up high points of all them breaks two tackles somebody that wasn't doing this key. So the whole thing just kind of worked better for Nick Foles in this game and I don't think it was necessarily the worst game I've ever seen trubisky play. They just couldn't get it going and I think the fact when he missed Miller dead, A deep shot you try and scheme that up you work all week. You get that play in you get to look you want you gotta hit it. I think that was the I think that was kind of the final straw there. Right? So we got a tree right? I mean, we got home playoff Nick Foles in week three of the 2020 regular-season like that's big time and he throws three touchdowns in a quarter and half of play for the Bears. I mean, you know, it's just that reminded me of Super Bowl run. Nick Foles reminded me of Super Bowl, you know, Nick Foles figuring that those those those stores that he made in this game were on the money fact as I'm just gave us now as we are going through this show Matt Nagy surprise surprise as Nick Foles will be the team's starting quarterback this week against Indy and Beyond because you know, we seeing the really good Nick Foles. We've also seen you know, Jacksonville Nick Foles and it wasn't quite as good right. So I felt like this quarterback competition had the ability to be one that kind of went back and forth. 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Rob Mullens on CFP Selection, NFL With Kevin Clark, Plus Tales From the Couch: NBA | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

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Rob Mullens on CFP Selection, NFL With Kevin Clark, Plus Tales From the Couch: NBA | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

"I'll be ready to hear me talk a lot over the next couple of hours because we are giving you basically par one and part two all at the same time Wednesday Friday hybrid out on a Thursday we had a lot of scheduling stuff on Wednesday. And here's the plan the Russillo podcast. Today we'll have rob mullins the ad of Oregon but more importantly the U. The College Football Playoff Committee chairman. Another year with him. He joins US a couple times last year. So He's great to talk to him known awhile also some NFL. With Kevin Clark which teams that that were supposed to be great still have a chance to be good or maybe still great. What's going on with the pats offense more Lamar stuff which is really good and get some good? Just coach story stuff tales from the couch locked into out three different. NBA Games last night including Lucas. First quarter the CELTS and clippers in a little Denver Houston and this myles Garrett News that came out later under this afternoon back on the east coast. The appeal has been basically ignored In his suspension remains indefinite but now news. That part of his defense for his actions was that a racial slur was used in that set. Everybody a million different directions so we had a lot plan. Probably two plus hours say happy birthday to Kyle Kyle. We can follow you on twitter where Tom Shady three hundred. Tom Shady three hundred. Who wouldn't want their daughter to meet a guy who's Tom Shady three hundred for those accusing him of the podcast scheduling problems this week? They weren't huge bribes. You're basically getting to one right now. So we've made your life more efficient but it had nothing nothing to do with Kyle. He was very responsible. I was taping Rewatch ables and we had all sorts of stuff going on at the studios says there all day and and people were on cows case Kyle showed up in remarkably good shape and ready to go with a coffee in just impressive sat jacket so it is not on. Kyle today show as always this presented by state farm. Today's episode the Ryen. Russillo show is brought to you by state farm. If you're fumbling with insurance state farm agents are here to help because over nineteen thousand agents their local to you and available to help help whether you connect in person by phone or through the state farm mobile APP agents are here to help so go with the one that has coverage in agents that you can count on State Forum. Talk to an agent today. Also also want to tell you about our boys at Zorro Zorro Dot Com is where you'll find everything you need for businesses of any size and almost any industry. They have tools equipment and supplies for everything you need needed even thinking about starting some hobbies just to have a little more Zoro in the garage whether you need stuff for industries like electrical plumbing manufacturing a more who want to pick a plumbing as a hobby. Zoro's got it from brands. You know and trust in Zoro DOT COM offers amazing customer service from real people based in the US. Visit Zoro Z.. O. R. O.. Dot Com slash dual in all lower case letters to sign up for the Z.. Mail to get fifty percent off your first order. Let's start with rob mullins again. The Athletic Director at Oregon. And somebody who's been on the podcasts before and currently the College Football Playoff Committee chairman. Say let's start at the top here rob We got LSU jumping over house a couple of weeks ago they stay up there now. It feels like you know. That's that's really going to debate and how this all finishes out. How much separation is the room between those teams? Obviously we've we've looked at them very closely each of the last three weeks and as you mentioned you know made a change between the first ranking in the second ranking Two great teams right Lsu those those three wins over CFP top twenty five teams Florida Auburn Alabama So when you watch that offense it's it's something special and then when do you see Ohio state. You see a complete team both offensively and defensively and they have been incredibly consistent in each of their games and they've got some some quality wins as well so Two great teams all right. You've gotten so much better at this. I must say that you're not earlier in the year after the first the first Rankings in that you know look at the you know the move is as I try to tell everybody all the time the less they give us the the less we can sit there and try to decipher what all this stuff means. But as you sale house debate a complete team that leads me to believe some people in the room don't think. LSU is a complete team. Is that fair. No I think what what we're saying there is You know obviously. LSU's offense Is Very good but you know Ohio state when you look at it. Statistically and you watch the Games You know they've done it on both sides to the ball for sure so two really great teams and when you get to this level. You know there there. Isn't that much separation from from what you see. The difference for the committee has been and yes. There's lots of debate so I would you know there's plenty of disagreement around this The differences the. LSU's three wins over CFP top twenty any five team. Does anyone ever say like yes. I know what the LSU defensive stats are but maybe it's this at play in the nets to shot down because has the numbers have gotten consistently worse the last three weeks like. How does that debate? I know you can't put names on. I'm not asking for that but like I'd love to know more details. The intimacy of what that debate truly truly is like the different opinions on what team or may not be yes. It's exactly what you would think. It's exactly probably what you debate with. Fans all. The time is you know we're looking at everything we're watching the games We're looking at all three phases of the game offense defense special teams and then each week. We're looking at what happened happens that week. So you know it's exactly what you think it would be 'cause you know. You're trying to compare schedules You know there when there's not common opponents you're trying to look doc You know what you see. You're also looking at the data when you look at Ohio state's data From an offensive and defensive standpoint. They got a lot of ones twos and threes in their rankings. Do you think the resumes are similar. Then well I mean clearly that the committee feels that they're they're fairly similar the fact that they got one. We're talking about one in two. So yes I think that you know people feel those are closing we reversed it after the first ranking. Yeah okay all right that's That's very. How often does this happen? Because I I'd like to believe that and I think it does happen so I think I know the answer here but I have to ask it anyway. Is that you talk all the different numbers resume strength the record strength the schedule start getting. You could go real deep on this stuff you know I can find different strengths schedule. That can maybe give me exactly. What would I want or something? I don't want to see if I were arguing team against another because that stuff can can move around a little bit. How often does someone to say? Hey I think this team would beat that team. And that's how I put put him in the rankings. I don't WanNa make this more complicated again. The beauty of this crossed us right as you got thirteen pros basically Football experts parts and they can set up their own system however they wish and then you come into the room and and and you look at everything and that's why you watch the Games but Yeah I mean in a invariably somebody will say well. I just think this team is better than this team this week. Remember we we start with a clean sheet but that does happen yes And then you'll get into a debate over the Y and not disagree with that Here's what I think. And then in the end after all the debate you put to a vote. So is that what's happening with Alabama Alabama. Then what specific. I mean I think what you see them without the committee sees in Alabama is again a team. Who's had you know some convincing wins But they haven't played the schedule strength that some others have and but still the team that they have played they've been dominant against benched and they've played their only losses to a team that we have number one right right but I think that from the outside and it a and it kind of becomes this thing where it's like well if it weren't Bama and that's what I think is impossible like we can talk about clean slate. We can talk about conferences not mattering and I think you guys say those for very specific reasons. I think it's smart fiance at that way. But I think it's absolutely impossible. I'm not criticizing the committee for this. I think human nature. It's impossible to not buy into certain programs more than others and give them that kind of carry over Bennett for the doubt when the teams have been successful. I just think it's impossible to try to remove. That is hard as you may try. Yeah I don't I mean I don't know how you can measure unconscious bias. I think that's what you're talking about but I can tell you that every member values integrity the process You know as as best we can. We're looking at these from from a blonde resume standpoint. We're trying to look at the resume. Obviously we see who's resume. We're looking at but it's really about evaluating them on performance this year and that's it so how would you. I know how much you love the hypotheticals Because because Obama would have worked at the right. I mean the the big ten's feels as of right. Now it's going to kind of take care of itself LSU If they meet up with Georgia then that's another conversation that feels it's like an elimination game is Jesse C. Title Game. How would the committee factor in no Tula? If it's only a one loss Bam on some other weird stuff happens to them. Do you look look at the team differently. We absolutely look at injuries. I mean we know exactly when to it was hurting that game And you know although although we evaluate all sixty minutes and in Alabama still had a convincing win You know we do watch the entire game and we also know. that CD lamb wasn't available for for Oklahoma and a number of these other teams You know we know when there are key injuries and players either league games Or Miss Games and that is certainly a part of the conversation. The big twelve has to be worried And it made me think that Oklahoma win at Baylor with them moving up only one spot and your rankings means that you never really bought into Baylor in the room. Is that fair no no. I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's fair at all. I think every you know what's difficult when you're responding to the fan bases or media questions is it people kind of focus on one thing you have to look. WHO's above them? You know having a great year You know with the close loss to Oklahoma. And they've got some quality wins but you you also have to take into account then. Then they're three non conference games those three teams only have seven wint. And so that's a factor and you're looking at them compared to you know a Ah Penn state who jumped up or you know some others that I mean it's difficult to measure right. This is not A model where you know the NFC East East plays the AFC west. I mean we have to try to look at all these things and make a determination on who we feel. The best team is and sometimes it. It is an art. It's not an exact. What kinds I knew you're gonNA say that was fair Because you weren't going to do that to yourself committee but I do love the point you brought up and bailer because I think it's very similar to Minnesota where when Minnesota beat Penn State. It's a terrific win. I think Penn State's a good football team that impressed me. I actually wasn't surprised at Minnesota lost to Iowa because I think I will is a tough team. Aim at home but what. It was clear to me that I thought the committee was doing that. So many people in the outside. We're not doing where it felt like. Hey Minnesota's undefeated they just beat Penn State. How can the the committee doesn't have have them higher and it's like no other committee actually paid attention to their first four or five weeks when they were barely beating marginal football teams and hadn't played anybody really that challenging in the big ten yet? Great signature is your win but you put all of it together. which is I think what you did with Baylor here and you know the the cop to that would be well Bam? I hadn't really played anybody looking all their schedule. Yes yes they are still destroying other football teams. And that's the part of it where I think people make it more complicated and not realizing that a lot of times I think you guys just do make it simple in the room which actually I think should be applauded at times instead of trying to make it more hard and putting these teams in order. Yeah and You know you you gotta remember Th- th- th- The CFP rankings are only six years old so still fairly early in its evolution and for years decades decades and the poll mentality with the media poll and the coaches poll. Was You know win. Move Up lose moved down and it started you know the initial ranking started before anybody ever even play the game You know when you when you're doesn't make a whole lot of sense you don't you don't even know what you're ranking on The beauty of this system. Is You know it's thirteen people With a different set of experiences and you know committed to getting it right but you also you don't you can watch. It's a lot of performance before you have to go in and make the initial ranking and the beauty is charged with starting with a clean sheet. So you know based on a week's results you can you can look at it differently. How much of the criticism makes his way into the room? There have to be moments where you guys like. There's just certain names that are national media media members that complain about certain things where you guys just. I don't know if it's frustrating. I rolling but I imagine some of that makes us into the room not now oh no you know no I mean listen we all we all read it and look at it but you know we understand the task at hand So there's you go there really isn't We're focused on the task at hand. We've got a short amount of time So intense work but No we don't really we don't really mix it up over. What what you know? What's happening we we we block out the external noise? How's that for coachspeak house that was good on to Cincinnati is what that sounds like rob If if you were though you point this out like I think I think there's GonNa be some disaster scenarios of its days of four teams But that doesn't mean that eight is better than four. I think more people want eight How do you think it would be if it were a I? Stay away from that question Because I'm the chair of the CFP selection committee who has no role in that whatsoever. Whoever that'll be determined by the managers and the Board of Directors And there's a lot of confusion about that because often when I'm out and people recognize the Arolla. CFP Selection Chair. I they want want my opinion or want to share their opinion on four eight nasty. Well the reality is. The selection committee has no role in that so I stay away from that one. Okay all right good job. Good job on that one too But there is something that actually like again i. I've I've always tried to express this in. That's well you know two years ago. They didn't care about how state winning conference championships. Conference Championships. Don't matter so they shouldn't listen. It's like no they they do you this in a very short amount of time. You're right there's not a ton of data but I think it is easy to figure out like one year this is gonna mean something and then comparison of team three four and five. This is going to have out more weight and you know the Ohio State Conference Championship being left out that year when they had two losses. I'm like wait a minute that that's a very specific thing so if there's a big ten and conference champ that has one loss in his left out versus another team like Obama doesn't win its division in some version of this and I'm just using kind of like a loose interpretation of what happened a few years ago. That would be a different set of scenarios. Why do you think people have such a hard time understanding that like the criteria can be a moving target every single year because the the teams that you're comparing are most likely going to be very different circumstances every single year? I appreciate you saying that because it can. Every week is different. Every year is different different. I think you know the beauty of sport is there so much passion around it and I think fans tend to get locked in on the piece that fits their argument It's just not that simple. It is a bit of an art each week. Each year is different. And when you're trying to compare however many teams you're comparing. Everybody gets focused on that number four slot. You know just like we went through last year and we explained that the end There's a lot of debate and the protocols really clear unless somebody's unequivocally better and if they're unequivocally typically better than you want to put the best team but if they're not then you go to this series of four pieces of data that are part of the protocol And so you you know you have that debate and again people can differ right. What's unequivocal? I clearly see a team here. That's a lot better than this. I think they're in equivocal but somebody else may not when when we look at the PAC twelve you have them positioned behind Bama but you have them ahead of the big twelve teams. I know that the media uses his lot lot. And you'll even reference it. Hey they have this many top twenty five wins you know this kind of stuff but like USC jumping into the top twenty five this year when I watch USA this year. I go you know. That's a good football team like they. It gets a good team some weeks. They're not going to have a great record this year. But you can't sit there and say like Oh hey this is a walkover team and I feel that about. I think it's actually harder to find those teams that are in the middle. Aw maybe the second and third tiers it may not have this great record like they could probably beat some good teams but when you have a USC jumping your own playoff rankings into the top twenty five does that all of a sudden make you guys look at Utah differently because it technically adds to the resume or did we overstate that. When you know team twenty eight and twenty nine could still be thought of in that same group as a team that breaks the top twenty five you nailed it? I mean we're looking at a pool of of more than twenty five teams. And yes you know we do. You know wins over top. Twenty five is not but you know the committee new long before. USC went into twenty three. What kind of team? It was And we know that there's good teams that are not in the in the top twenty five and so we see that and that's that's the part that is hard to convey to the public when we're comparing teams. We're seeing full resume so we're comparing you know we can compare up the four teams at a time. We're looking at four teams on board all together and we see the results from first game through the tenth or eleventh game and we see their data and we see it all lined up and we're comparing it all there on the screen and that's part of the conversation. We're looking at the same thing and saying well we'll look at that win that they've got no wins over teams above five hundred Well look at them. They got these two wins. So I mean you are really getting into a granular level. So we know who the good teams are Teams with winning records and some of those may not be in the top twenty five. So what's the separation between Oregon Utah then and I. I know I look. Maybe you're going to have to tell me because I obviously have the follow of Oregon question here. Maybe I I should start with that. One can use your the ad there what happens. I know kind of what happens. But can you explain in greater detail on on how that works and you have to leave the room. Sure and this is not the first. I hear this has happened. This has happened every year. So he'll when they put together the protocol you know if you have an association Me since I work at Oregon. When Oregon's the board being discussed I I'm recused from the room so I'm not in the room and win? They're in a in a pool for voting. We vote these in in pools of three so with their vote for one one two three four through six. If they're in the pool to be considered I can't even vote on them on my computer screen. Oregon is blacked out. I can't even click on it for anything to put them in the pool. Who To vote for him so when Oregon on the board being discussed I'm recused from the room and when I come back into the room they share with me What was discussed? What the decision? We're just like when Dan cove which was on the committee from from Clemson Gene Smith was on from Ohio State. Joe Castiglione from Oklahoma's had to do it This is not new. I think it's people are just now beginning to pay attention to it because I'm the chair in the spokesperson. Yeah right I mean that's it really is i. I mean other people have had to leave the room. See You can't come back into the room after the fact and see Oregon somewhere and then argue against what their decision was. I cannot when I so for example specifically this week when I walked back into the room I saw that Georgia was four Alabama. Five was Oregon was six. And so that's that's done and we're moving on to seven seven through nine but could you argue against Utah in theory So when Oregon is in there yes I mean I do not have to recuse myself When Utah being discussed unless they're in the pool that Oregon so you know I wouldn't Utah would have been in the pool for four or five the ranking of four or five and six so I would not have heard some of that but when I come back into the room and we're discussing ranking seven through nine out part of the conversation that's a really important distinction there as that? You're you're you're arguing for against eighteen. That's already separated essentially from your tears right. That's that how you pull pull them together. Yeah so you know you have pools of six. So they're six teams in the original pool to vote for one through three. So you you debate sixteen teams you rank one through three then you put three more teams in the pool. So you have six teams that you debate and your rank fourth through six so forth and so on. Okay all right. Yeah 'cause I just think it's the fascination I've always had with this and I'm just looking at that I've got to talk to you guys and a little bit is just. I just don't think it's as devious behind Hind door is so many people want to believe it is and it happened. It's happened every year. I believe year. Every member has a recusals easel Because all of us are you know either you know professors or you know we get you know some coaches still get tickets. And so they're recused used for those places So everybody has recusals. I still wonder if anybody will ever write the book. It'd be like Oh so and so broke the deal with every week sky. Well I don't I don't I don't think there's any material there for a book. I don't think I'm on somebody over the last few years had to everybody you know really cares about about the game You know understands the process really is committed to integrity because if it's important not only to the sport but all of college athletics So I don't think there's anything to be written there. Do you think are two more things here Is it fun though is because I mean there's a lot the pressure on you and then you in Vail on. ESPN it's big national thing and you're gonna see all this stuff and then you go out there and you're very concise very efficient. I'm so proud of you as somebody. Who has this? The responsibility and yet you're just unwavering. The longer you talk the more we can try to pick stuff apart as I said at the top and like when I watched you this year my gosh. He's he's so good at this now not after you were bad before but you just seasons your vet. Is it fun or do you guys get nervous. It's fun I mean I think every absolutely every member would say how much fun it is. How much they enjoy the work? It's intense Particularly over six week period of time But I everybody anybody in our industry would raise their hand. You can talk to any former members Who speak you know about it? After they're done about how how much they enjoyed it. How much you know? They liked contributing to the game. People love the opportunity. And and who would And you know Yes yes I get a little nervous about the TV piece. What questions reese is GonNa ask me But by and large You know that's just a small piece of it. I really do enjoy it. Yeah Reece's really really good at it too. I mean reese will make me think every now and then I'll be like oh you know what that was. I would hope I would have thought of that in the moment And I think he's terrific at all right final one would you if you had to rank Jeff Long Kirby Hocutt and yourself seed wise would you. Could you do one through three seating as far as WHO's been the best committee chair or would you have to recuse yourself from that as well. I would have to recuse myself from from that question. I do appreciate the fact To go right Geoff Kirby I it wasn't I and I I. I got to serve for two years under Kirby with Jeff on the committee so I have a huge advantage Of having you know those those two guys go first and they both were really really good at it and both have been great resources so I would recuse myself from that question But I I again and I had a distinct advantage of watching them do it the look man. I really do think you're one of the best in the country so your success is not a surprise and I appreciate the time so blue ketchup. Sooner right well I appreciate you have me a love what you do and I appreciate. The friendship is awesome man. We'll talk at the end if you can come onto the final rankings. When it really matters everybody nobody is all right? 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Now here's the thing with Philadelphia. We understand that loss against a win-win now looked at as this awful loss when it's still like look it. It is New England patriots. The offense was a mass but they were without two of their top receivers and they still had went on a deep throat. Almost tie game out. They were also without their lead running back. They lost lost one of their tackles. and Larry Johnson. I don't know that any of those guys are even going to be back or at one hundred percent if they get them back against Seattle but what you have with Philadelphia even with all the on struggles. It's a much better team. I think than the five Fi- record indicates and when they get some of these guys back and they're playing at Miami home to the giants at Washington home to Dallas and at New York to close out after the Seattle game I think Philadelphia is going to go on a run here the corners better. 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I think a lot of you know me long enough that if I thought LSU sucked at other times work art deserving. I would say so Ohio state is again. I've said this all season long. If you're telling me you think Ohio State is better than Lsu and you you WanNa vote them one. You know what I can't tell you wrong and I think I'd even lean picking Ohio state against Lsu right now because my defensive stance for Lsu has been you know what the numbers actually aren't as bad as the surrounding discussion. And I just don't WanNA use the word narrative because narrative and Straw man and okay boomer becoming my three least favorite things but two weeks ago. LSU's defense going into that. Bama game. And I remember I was on the sideline I was talking with guys I think they were like. CBS Guys. Everybody on the sideline which actually had a great time talking with a bunch of different people and we were talking about different matchups like his LSU's offensive line good and they've actually look better now for a couple of weeks and then the guy's like other defense is terrible. I said you know what their sixteenth in the in the country and yards allowed per play. And he's like you gotta be kidding me and I looked at opposite. Yeah no it's it's sixteenth. And then they have the Bama game it drops down to twenty fifth which still wasn't nearly as bad as everybody's making out to be they got gashed by old miss gashed and now they're fifty first. So if you're telling telling me like I used to have this thing could go and you've heard it before while the Texas game got weird at the end. Yeah they're up a million on bandy yet they were thirty one. Seven on Ole miss of. We're just a straight great up shootout where it's thirty five thirty four men and back and forth the whole time. I think that looks worse. But statistically like these are what the numbers are and Lsu's defense so if you want to tell me. The Ohio states the more complete team which. I think the committee's kind of wanting to tell us even though you just can't put I don't know how you put anyone ahead of Lsu based on beating Texas who. Yes I know is losing in Games now but I don't think it's a terrible It's not like oh whatever. That's not an impressive win to go in and Austin and beat them especially at the beginning of the year. The Auburn Florida wins and then go into Tuscaloosa. Going into Tuscaloosa exclusive is a really good win okay You know if how state fans went into Tuscaloosa. I have a hard time believing that Ohio state fans but like yeah you know we went down to Bam and being the first time they lost their in like five years but whatever not in a huge deal like Bama's defense is really as good by the way Bama's defensive yards allowed per game right now not being one or two is eighteen. So it's not like it's atrocious atrocious. So that kind of leads the damn thing because Two of America's excuse me to of SEC's most wanted any ellen. Joel Klatt who every week put out their playoff rankings and look Danny's a friend and I watched every week and I think he's great but those guys don't like the SEC. It's painfully obvious. And into it. He would say that they don't I mean I don't they're more than welcome to come on and and say they they are put. I mean look I listened and I'd see all the content because before when Ohio state was ahead of Lsu for Klatt it was what it was their air strength of record it was her strength the resume well right now. Strength of record. LSU's won after the Bama Win and their strength of schedule is higher than Ohio states when before LSU strength of schedule was dragged down because of a ridiculous non conference That northwest Louisiana game that it was just absolutely dragging it down and now that they've kind of put together this stretch rats with their beating power five teams and again Bama at their place. Dave jumped ahead of Ohio state but Klatt when he came out with his rankings had Ohio state and Clemson ahead of Lsu after he was arguing. Doing strength of schedule Canal is even more out of his mind because he's been arguing against Obama because they haven't played anybody they haven't played anybody look Clemson as an absolute scoring differential tear right now. It's like a plus three hundred. I think in their last five games. It's nuts that that conference stinks. They're terrible terrible there. Say they're setting precedent like to have. I think it's back to back weeks. Only one team ranked as a power. Five conference like usually just becomes kind of cyclical from like sixteen seventeen Oughta twenty-five so can l.. WHO's arguing against Bama's schedule the whole time now mysteriously has Ohio state and Clemson head of Lsu? So you know. I I mean this is not hating. I like both guys. But this is your content. I'm only reacting to it so as I've stated every single a week if you think Ohio state's better that's okay but if you're telling me one week this is your argument and then you don't really follow it And you know I can't argue hugh. LSU's defense anymore. It's just not the same but the other thing that that canal had after Bam loss because I cannot imagine he was like. I don't need to watch cinemax tonight. Bama lost and I get to tweet about it. He was like hey. I hope. The committee holds Bama to the same standard that they held Oklahoma too because Bama gave up forty six six points in their lost to LSU again this tweet that night and tells Qaluza on fire and he was like years ago when Oklahoma had lost to Texas giving up forty eight points over questions about their defense well. There were questions about their defense because Oklahoma was ninety fifth in the country in yards allowed per play and two thousand seventeen when Oklahoma lost to eight and five Iowa state team again. Good record certainly not losing to the number one team in the number one offense in the country and Lsu Oklahoma was seventy six in yards allowed the per play so Obama at eighteen given up a bunch of points of the number one team in the country and still sort of sneaky making it a one score game which it didn't feel like Obama had one offense of score in the first forty minutes possession wise on top of the punt return. But I'm just telling you there. There are holes everywhere you could probably find holes in my stuff. I try not to do it very very often but I just think. The Committee talked with Rob. Sometimes it's not that complicated so for everybody. That's knocking Bama having any chance of getting back in this thing and look some weird stuff would have to happen. Okay okay. I don't know if they I don't think they're gonNA leave out of twelve and one pack twelve champ. They just don't think they are when Bam sitting at home the the problem with Bam getting in as we metro rob was that it was compared to a two loss. Ohio state team that cannot be repeated. Enough the circumstances were different or likely will be different that year than they could be in other years but for anybody. That's just like Hey Bama's any good I'd ask you this. Do you WanNa play in the semi final and that would be with two. And now you don't have to worry about it because to is out and it's Mac Jones but let's just say hypothetically weekly of tour as you knock Bama if to healthy would you wanNA play him. You know what I mean like Minnesota people were mad. They were behind Alabama Emma in a million years. Would you ever pick Minnesota Against Bama on a neutral field. If I'm being honest with myself a man exactly we're GonNa talk to Kevin Clark co host of the Ringer. NFL Show Robert Mays in just a second. He's out at Foxboro. But I I want to tell you about my friends over at draftkings these guys get it. They've launched an online sportsbook created by sports fans for sports fans. Here's real good news if you live in Pennsylvania it's now available elbow for you in your state and trust me. Dr King's his heart at work bringing their sportsbook APP. which happens to be America's top rated sportsbook APP everywhere? The drafting sportsbook APP. 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You're in in New England outside. Gillette makes my heart warm. The pats offense. We knew there were defensive team. We know they have a hard time getting guys in the outside separation. Another design but the Philadelphia game just looked like it. Was this thing where you're like okay. I'M GONNA finish this race race but it's GonNa hurt as I could be fun. I'm not going to look great on camera. What do you make of where this patriots offense is headed? Well I think that Josh Daniels. Tom Brady Bill Belichick. They've earned the benefit of the doubt I I assume they will figure something out. I just don't know where their edge is right now because one of the things that Bill Belch. Josh mcdaniels are so good at they find just where they're good at and they hammered over and over again maybe. Maybe it's no huddle offense. I talked to a couple of people here in New England. I think. Maybe there's an edge there just you know they're better condition than most teams. They have run the no huddle before Tom Brady. Is that kind of quarterback I think at twenty twelve. Almost I broke the record for most plays ever run because they were doing the no huddle so much so I think maybe there's an advantage there. I think weirdly. We don't talk enough about the James Devlin injury changing the identity of this team because I think there was a case to be made they could have done a lot. More power football and throwing out of it they've lost set elemental. Bit Andrew. Cowan had a pretty good piece today about just how you know modern. NFL Right now is run out of the spread formations and you pass out of the heavy formations and the Patriots. It's aren't doing that. They're running three receiver sets and running what I would consider a pretty standard offense and I think that you can. You can do a lot more than the piglets. It's doing right now. I just think with this receiver core. It's a work in progress. I still think member. They lost Antonio Brown and they're still paying him five million dollars That was going to from a football standpoint point. That was supposed to solve a lot of problems. It didn't work and so I think that there's they have a month to figure it out and I just think people have. PTSD from counting ballot check and Brady out in the past especially offensively and so. I think no one wants to do it and I'm not going to be doing. Are you excited. Guided to ask Brady more about his social media habits on liking post from Antonio Brown. Yeah so he was. That was that was the thing yesterday. We'll check was also asked about it. I did not ask about that. No I did not ask about that but bill belichick was asked about it Brady was asked about it. I there were a lot of patriots who liked that post and I think that there it's I I think people just reflexively like instagram posts. I think that so one of the differences between twitter and Instagram instagram. His that When I am going through twitter and much like something I think about it in twenty ways? How could this be perceived as problematic an instagram? I'm just smashing the like button on everything it's like. Oh this guy. This guy's at a weezer concert. I'm smashing that like button. So I think it's a little. INSTAGRAM is just conducive to to mindless likes. Okay all right I guess I guess. That's that's past. What's the dumbest? Do you have a dumb bell. Check question moment or where he I could see him. Lamb you more because I know how much time you put into it. But it doesn't no one's ever shoot one hundred percent with that guy. Yeah so the first time I ever met Bill Belichick I had was doing a story but the offensive boom and one of the. Nfl Guys told me that that the numbers in the passing are the NFL scoring boom and one of the NFL guys. Golf consistent you know on a on a scale basis the passing. Boom mm-hmm is a much different from what it was in the nineteen fifties and so I asked a question about the nineteen fifties and Paul Brown mobile check. I don't even remember. I was twenty six years old. I remember how I answer the question. Area ask the question and Bella. She kind of looked at me and was like I don't really know what you're talking about. And that was probably the correct way to go about the question I was asking and then I tried to as he was leaving the room I tried to get his attention to explain further what I was trying to say and he. He didn't really know me and he didn't care to hear my explanation which is a one hundred percent. He was a right on and then a couple of patriots executives who had had Seen the whole interaction and new me because I introduced myself were watching this and I turned around and they were laughing at me in the in the nicest way possible and they said it was kind of like looking at someone trying to ride a bull. I was just trying to stay with ballot check to explain it. He was walking really fast and He eventually eventually just out out paced me and I had to give up. And that was That's my stupid ballot. Check story but I have improved since that. I'm GonNa go ahead and tell you what you did because I have done it and I'm still capable of doing it every now and then is it. You knew what was ballot. Check your younger. Like how can I set myself apart. How can I ask you having nothing really smart here and then you're like now all of a sudden I'm asking you about the growth in passing numbers in the fifties and he's not that? Yeah so yeah no. Let's get a historian but probably not at that point. I've done it. I've done it to where you're like. Hey I noticed on your fourth quarter clutch timings out of timeouts you guys are minus twelve but only on the west co- guys like dude. What are you talking about and about the answer? So hey that's all right. We get better Lamar go better this year. I I know there were certain arguments that he was really good last year Whatever it is? He was not this Last year it's incredible and even though I thought there were moments it's were defenses. Were doing some different things that we're going to challenge him. which would make sense still as a young quarterback? He's just he keeps everybody in check as like okay. You WanNa start doing some of these things. We'll find that it was gonNA roll over you again and even though I always think the dual QB correction comes and it it forces you to do something whatever it is this year it is MVP level. Even though I think most of the time it's been Russell Wilson so give me your sense of MVP stuff that I know you in. May's doing and then how we got here because I never am asking a bunch. Aren't you really in a making conversation. But that I've always thought carbos really good coach and yet when things were kind of plateauing. It's like hey should they do something else in and I actually really believe that. That is a great example of an organization going. Hey we like our coach. We think he's a good coach. And even though the numbers reflect him killing it right now. We're really happy that he's here here. And doing this and thank God for that happening because maybe with a different staff. We don't even know what Lamar is. Second Year in Italy. Yeah and and so. I think that people are talking a lot about the play calling. And that is one hundred percent correct. The playcalling has been great but this is also personnel triumph too like the offensive line. These those guys are bullies. And you know Hollywood Brown is really good. Mark Andrews has really good Ozzie. newsome and his last draft draft picked Mark Andrews Druse Lamar Jackson and Orlando Brown I mean. Those are those are three of the backbones of what this team looks like right now so this is not only okay Greg. Roman John Harbaugh their creative but this is also they have the players to do this. They ought to do it. I think that the the pistol formation is perfect for Lamar. I think that the way that they've built this offense where they can show so many different They can they can run so many plays out of the same looks and I think got it. That's Chris Long talked about this. About how many bad position coaches there are in the NFL and you know good. Coaching is the exception. Not The rule and I think that when we talk about things like okay they run you know a heavy backfield but then they can run a million different plays out of that. That's not all that common in the NFL. Even no it should be even though it's probably easy to do and so I think that you pair Lamar Jackson's inability to be tackled essentially with the fact that you cannot make adjustments to improve snap because you have no idea where it's GonNa go. You have no idea if they're going to run up the gut if he's GonNa keep it or they're gonNA pass. There's a great article on pro football focus this week about about how they're dropping back to pass more. And that's helping Lamar Jackson for a number of reasons. One again is it. It's really hard to make those defensive adjustments in two is that they're just avoiding third downs now They're in the top five of just avoiding third downs by getting first downs on first and second down and so I think that this is all working together. Gather in a really brilliant way. They had the players to do it. Mark Ingram was an inspired signing. I didn't know about that signing at the beginning Gus Edwards. You know the the heavy backfield. I just really like everything they've done. This is not necessarily all the play calling. It's not necessarily all of Mars talent. It's Ozzie newsome. It's Eric Decosta. It's John Harbaugh. Greg Roman an Lamar Jackson. This is one of the best team building performances of the decade yet. Really is is in. I worried about the outside guys in Hollywood brownies and been there the whole season and I still don't think they have great depth on the outside but these tight ends Andrews was a baller it Oklahoma Oklahoma. He's a big athletic match. A problem made plays. I think he was even a quarterback in high school. To which usually you know those guys. I'll double check that as we're talking about it but I I just remember all his recruiting stuff going you know this guy's skies nut so it's worked and You know I'm happy because anybody's ever get any time around Lamar Jackson. It's it's like it's just so impressive. I remember interviewing him that first year before he won the heisman and it. There's just this real this but a hump not that fake humble shit that everybody does on Instagram instagram. Where it's like look at bragging about but then Hashtag stay humble like to me? Lamar is always been the real deal with that stuff. And I think that that's the kind of thing where guys in the locker room. Knowing how jealous people can get when there's fifty of them that's the kind of stuff or guys WanNa play really hard for that guy and I think. He's showing that very early on in his career. He's the all all time teammate. Type of dude. Yeah there's an anecdote the floats around Baltimore thing it's been reported about how Lamar had heard that Peyton manning knew everybody in the building's name and that that was a big thing for Peyton and a lot of elite quarterbacks in so Lamar made it a point to learn everybody's name in the building I mean everybody's name and so I think that's the kind of thing where sure he's just. He understands what it takes to be an elite quarterback on the field. But I also think there's just sort of face of the franchise thing that all Odi quarterbacks have to do you and I think he is prepared for that as well so I agree with you. I mean he's a great guy. Everybody just dourson inside that building and it's the whole thing is just really come together right now and this this is this guy is a legitimate. NFL superstar. And I think he will be for a long time both both again on the field and off the field. I Andrews Played Wide Receiver in Arizona in high school. So I don't the quarterback then came from so I just wanted to go ahead and double check that okay. Let's talk about some of the teams that we whenever we go through the exercise you go eliminate six playoff playoff teams from last year. Because that's what you're supposed to do. It feels impossible right. You're like okay. What the rams are coming back? I mean the chiefs are obviously coming back to this. Let's talk about some of the teams that we always think are supposed to be good and it's not happening. The Rams we know the prophecy offensive line Barnwell had that incredible stab out off of his last full season. A Games that QBR and some of the other numbers would put him at literally the bottom autumn of the league. which then makes you go? You know what are we looking at here with God like what is he really as a guy to go from. MVP candidate to izzy actually really one of the worst starters in the NFL and that seems to be extremes. So where are you with the rams and trying to salvage what felt like another season of taking a step forward that has not like even when they were three. You know people could tell. Something's wrong with this team yet. The weirdest part right now is the everybody was talking about the six one defense. That teams could employ on on the rams and kind of stopped them. Take running game. We'll teams aren't necessarily having having to run the six one now to be the rams the word is out on some of these tendencies and I haven't seen enough adjustments from. Sean McVeigh. I mean. This is teams teams. Essentially in the back half of last year started ignoring jet motion. There's so much window-dressing in the McVeigh offense and essentially teams adjusted. Gusted to it by ignoring it. I think that was one of those things that wasn't talked about enough and it's really help. I think Matt Patricia went along and doing that. And obviously bill ballot check showed that and then you oh you pair ignoring the jet motion with a couple of other things and all of a sudden you score three points in the Super Bowl I've been really disappointed with the offensive line as we talked about. I mean it just shows you look I. I think that we have underrated offensive lines in this era because there were so many so much quick passing and so much you know we can game plan the offensive line out of it and eventually people started to talk about offensive lines if they didn't matter. Well look at Lamar Jackson. How good he is behind that offensive line and look at Carson Wentz in the difference between one lane aimed Johnson's playing when he's now playing and then look at the rams issue they've taken a huge step back and now they don't have the running game they don't have the push they don't have the angles goals? I mean so. Many of the McVeigh offensive principles were were viewed upon. Were were based upon stretching the defense to its limits and they can't stretch them at all right now. I just been really disappointed in just his ability to to become a right now. It looks like chip Kelly Dude. It looks like he had a couple of great ideas is and wasn't able to build on them. I have enough faith in Sean. mcvay the he'll be able to come up with something else he. He basically completely adjusted as personnel. was running a lot more heavy against against the bears On On Sunday but right now I just think they're out of ideas and they got to go back to the drawing board because at this point looks broken and they are all all in on this team. They don't have the piss going forward. They t two first round picks for Jalen Ramsey. This team is not fixed right now. And it's up to Sean mcvay to come up with something new and all the money that they've spent and have to spend to keep more. Yeah thing on instagram. I've just mentioned before they are not afraid. You just throw the money around at a handful of guys and that's so they're gonNA have on the books so I don't know why the roster without the draft picks and without cap spaces automatically GonNa get a lot better Especially when you have to go out and buy offensive linemen that you think are good enough to improve because those dudes are so expensive like NBA players. I always joke about how much they make an agency. Just because whoever's good usually just doesn't come up and then you have a million teams hoping into a guy who's overpaid like. Hey we hope to get to pay this guy. One hundred twenty million even though he's not worth it because the alternatives are so much worse and with offensive lineman right now. They're they're contracts where I think a lot of people are like. Are you kidding me. It's like okay. But he's actually proven and said to me. Maybe taking a second rounder. Who We know within six months is not gonNA work out? Can you add a little bit more more depth on what the six one defensive alignment is and how teams yeah I'm not telling you even remotely some expert on it but just to counter some of the spread stuff that we thought maybe was out of control and indefensible and it feels like hey wait. A minute did defenses. figure some thinking like did this actually actually become cyclical again in that defense. Did figure some things out because that seems to be part of it. Yeah so a couple of things. So basically it's it's four linemen and two linebackers. No one behind them. Okay and it's funny to me because I don't trust. NFL coaches on anything at this point. Because I have just had too many conversations with them mm-hmm where they've just been wrong like I. I will try if if if the smartest coach in the nfl tells me something Obviously do not talk to bill bell check but if you told me something Out Believe Bill Belichick right but the run of the mill. Coach is typically pretty wrong when we talk about schemes and where the sports going but a lot of the coaches. I talked to two in training camp and an ot as or whatever they were laughing at the cyclical part of it because the what McVeigh McVeigh and even Cao Shan. Even though he's having lost success what they employ. It's really I mean pretty old stuff. It's it's play action. It's Mike Shanahan stuff and they have adjusted this in the past and so old sort of you know old fashioned defensive coaches were a lot more skeptical Bush. McVeigh's offense can continue to work. Maybe I thought and I actually didn't believe them and they they seem to be on the right track You know as Bowen said the other day teams looking for crossers crossers off of play action with With Goff and I think that this is just a predictable offense right now and so the six one does is gives it takes away the run game which everything is predicated on you. Pair that with girly Being I guess he's not load managed but he obviously is being managed or he's as bad add now is taken away the outside zone against the against the bears. The Rams just did not play the outside zone hardly at all and so it the six one kind of it is in the in a kind of classic. Nfl Way it was tweaked and built upon Really it was Patricia and then Fangio and and then Belzec used it but then they you know I think the ballot check innovation was putting Jonathan Jones on the speed on their Basically putting him at safety and having him on the spey be or cornerback and having him Guard the speed of the Rams and take that away and so it right now. The book is out on mcvay and he's got to write a new one. That was an excellent excellent breakdown. What's the wrong guest? Mr Coach wrong has been. You don't have to give me a name obviously but I'm mm to fascinated with this where there was a lot of NBA stuff. Is this offense of explosion happened. Where all talked to a guy and hip? Bob Yeah whatever okay or war everyone just GonNa take even more threes and so Just because the guy has the GIG doesn't mean he's always right but you have one that always stands out where it was somebody saying. Now this is what's going to happen. And it was like the longest thing ever will the worst ever was when I was a young reporter around when I talked to bill for the first time And I talked to a scout from the NFC west team who swore up and down the Richard Sherman sucked. He was just like no Richard. Sherman has talked his way into fame. He's not good. He's below average average. And so I I was so young. You probably had this too. It's like anybody who was who insider and would talk to me. Reflexively believed and so for like half a season I was like. Oh my God you know. Richard Sherman isn't very good and then of course they won the Super Bowl and were Richard. Sherman is really really good I I would say. There was a lot of awful awful Lamar Jackson opinions and I would also say that about Carson Wentz quite frankly because a lot of coaches and scouts or just unusually obsessed assessed with mechanics like a golf swing teacher and if they find what they perceive as a hitch that will spread around and it will become I mean it's almost at the mark twain quote right like ally gets half around the world while choose get pants on. If there's a doubt that scouts and coaches have it spread so oh quickly and the group think is so pervasive that I think that it's just it's it's amazing. How many guys were telling me that? Lamar Jackson couldn't couldn't pass at the NFL level and there are a lot of people. I mean this is written late in winces rookie year. Where other people thought that Wentz had you know? Kind of vaguely really similar mechanical issues where he was not going to age well or figure it out and both of those things were completely completely wrong. I think most of the time most of the time when coaches are scouts are wrong. It's usually because they had one bad experience and extrapolated over every single player to ever come after them. The Lamar stuff. Though I mean I I was probably part of that group but then when I see a Andy Benoy or a Jeremiah or mcshea right up something about at the intermediate throws that. He wasn't being pressed to do anything and he would. Just miss them. Mike that's a problem because that's where a lot of these guys live and it hasn't been an issue at all all this year And you know even though Kansas City made him throw underneath and I thought Oh here we go. Here's here's your. Here's what teams are going to do. They're going to stay in their lanes. Try to contain you. Know if they give up eighty yards running. Hope it's not like the big sixty yard or that changes the outcome of the game and they're gonNA give him these underneath rose and I thought he struggled struggled. Pittsburgh with does does a little bit so I thought that part of it was accurate but to think that he could become this like. Yeah anybody I don't know I don't know sometimes it's players. It's like well how much how much improvement improvement that happened. In how much of it is just being flat out wrong but I mean you obviously talked more people than I did. I just was sitting there watching them. And also you know reading draft guys or I was like okay. These guys agree with what I'm seeing so I don't know yeah I mean I think the one of the things I vote. Lamar has hit the throws for everything to work one of the things I saw great Brian. Baldinger breakdown a a couple of weeks ago. One of the things. They're doing to create space for him is setting up plays you know they they. They went three times to Hollywood Brown and then they faked to him on the fourth play play. And they hit Mark Andrews for a touchdown on the play and I think that their ability to play head games because defenses are already chasing our tails against Lamar Jackson already spinning around and the ability ability for them to play off of defenses tendencies have been. It's been really impressive to watch. It's it's part of the joy of watching the Greg Roman elephants this year. And so I think the the thing we have to keep in mind is that there can be all the great offensive schemes in the world. But Lamar is hitting throws. He's not hitting all of them. He still throws some inaccurate accurate throws he still throws you know when you look at the numbers sort of off target passes. They're still higher than you want them to be. But he's still hitting enough throws for defenses to have to respect that part part of it. Yeah and with the way. They're running the football like the whole thing. I mean he's Kinda back to the golf point when they get that thing. Running you know golf is different. Garbage is different web. You can't run employees action for sixty plays when nobody can run the football like so well and also I think you I think you can. I think you just have to hit the past some of these decisions. He's making terrible. I think he can do play. Action put a little bit stressing the defense all this stuff. But I think you have to be a better quarterback than jared Goff is right now. That's the problem I do feel like it's going to be twenty twenty three and girlies in a have like eleven carries for sixty five yards and Monday morning warning. It's going to be like you know what he he still he looked. He looked crisp on those eleven carries. Though you know and he's back it's just unbelievable. How long this girly thing has gone on where some people are acting as if it's till uncertainty and you go? How is this uncertainty? There is there is no uncertainty. He's just not the same guy that socks. It sucks because I absolutely love watching him play. So it's you know whenever you look at this stuff like you. You actually want to be wrong on this. But I don't know why people are still debating this the whence one is funny. Because you know it's North Dakota state. He plays seven games his senior year. He's older for a prospect. And you think you're moving coming up for this guy like this is the kind of thing where you go. You're going to get fired immediately. If this doesn't work out you know if he were playing and as C. or he were coming out of Michigan and he was the the top guy it would just be more acceptable. It's kind of like my old zinc. Is Karl Anthony towns debate and granted now towns to surpass zinc. But it's like if you had them close you take towns because porzingas gets you fired quicker and Wentz was the guy that I think it's backfired quicker. And that's maybe it's part of the problem there and you know. Look if we stay with another team that we thought was going to be good this this year Philadelphia. We know the offense of weapons that went says missing. Two receivers is running back Maybe two of his tackle certainly Lane Johnson right now now is went somebody that we're in Namur with the arm and ignore just as the decision making are we are we so blinded by his. MVP flirting season that. We're not being critical enough of the Times where it's like man you. You're trying to make these plays happen. That are the big play every time time. And it's actually screwing up your offense more and it's great that you're capable of doing this. You're in this rare class of guys. That may be five guys. It can make some of these plays with the arm talent. But it's at least something. I'm asking myself more when I watch him going. Am I just reading the same stuff still in love with that year. My making excuses for him being better than back Prescott when reality tells us he just just he hasn't been that guy this year again. Yeah I don't think he's better than Dak Prescott. I think that for the foreseeable future to twenty sixteen debate is over at stack. I think he's much better than Gos- I will say that once and I think that you see how much I mean that that back of the endzone drop by Galore is all you need to know about. How much is receivers of let him down? I saw a stat. The Michael Thomas has more receptions issue than the Philadelphia Eagles like. That's a problem and I you start to think about I just you know. The drop percentage is really really high by the way so as DAX tax it almost five percent for his drops. And it's not just I know has been memed but there's a lot of guys who were dropping passes on the eagles and I don't know I mean how much is history change if you know the word came out. That Amari Cooper almost went to the eagles there was an offer on the board. I think it may have been a second round. Pick from our cooper to go to the Eagles Last year obviously and you wonder how much history would have changed my cooper could've made Carson Wentz Look like an elite passer as he did with Dak last year I think Dak is taking a huge step forward and can look like an elite pass on his own but I think Howie Roseman is such a good GM and he finds lines value everywhere. and He. You know got alshon Jeffery for almost nothing. You know try them out and then signed him to an extent right he can he finds these guys and this is just a rare example of him not supporting Carson Wentz in any meaningful way. He just needs more on the receiving Receiving Corps four and how he just hasn't gotten it to them and so I'm with Ya Carson Wentz at this point Is Not the quarterback. I maybe expected him to be. I think he's not reached the MVP levels again. I don't know what that is But I also know that. It's not entirely his fault. Okay that that seems fair if he has a two thousand twenty where he's back in the race and everything looks good in their healthier and they have a better roster You know maybe this thing is still TVD DVD. But it's just something you know. I just make myself here. You know how you feel like a certain way about a player and you go okay. Watch him as if you hate him and now and now what do you see all right one more thing before. I let you go because I know you're busy man Kansas City another one of those teams. You're like okay. Well they're obviously still going to make the playoffs and mahomes although some raw numbers until his good. He's saying he's playing even better. which makes sense? And it's weird in this this world mahomes or feels like wait a minute. This is actually only like his second year. We didn't have to two full seasons from this guy like that's like he's I've been around forever just the impact that he's had. Dv Away still loves Kansas City They're the second best offense behind Dallas by their metrics. Their defense is higher than I think anybody would think at twelve love And they're behind New England Baltimore as the third best team and I don't know how much you put into view but I like it better than some of the rar stuff. Is Kansas City. Still a really good team Yes they are because I think that when you have Patrick Mahomes you have the capability to play like an elite team mm-hmm. I think there's obviously still some health concerns. But I think that you know one of that we forget first of all the Andy. Reid is still the coach. And he's a really good coach. And I also think that this defense when when you have that many new faces I think defenses take a while to get going and I may I think you have the honey badger. Rashad Fenton came up really really nicely on Monday night. I was surprised by that I think that defense is now have gone to a point scenes with the BELSHAZZAR teams. You've seen this with P. Care over the last decade kind of post. CBA is that you can peak in December you. Can I remember ever told the story and this pod but I remember I got a call from GM To septembers ago. Because I went on a pod and I said a defense sucked and the GM called me. And I thought he was going to yell at me and he said No. I want to educate you because an inner very nice way and he said it takes so long for defenses to Gel. Now because there's not full training camp no tackling in Otas all the stuff. That really is such a work in progress until Thanksgiving that. If you say defense really stinks. You might be wrong sometimes APPS and I'm not saying you know that that the chiefs are going to end up being the Patriots. Here what I am saying is you can always withhold judgment on defenses until later in Susan and I think that you know we need Steve Spagnolo to be better than Bob Sutton. I think in a lot of waste. He is as a defensive coordinator. But there's also just you know there's still huge problems in that defense defense so I think they have. The capability is still being elite team. Ain't the problem is they're not gonNA have home field in the AFC championship game. The Patriots are really freaking. Good the ravens are really freaking good and I just think that the problem is not whether or not they are a really good team. The problem is there's just a lot of good teams. They have say. Hey Kevin let us know where we can and get the poverty. You may yeah ringer. NFL show posting later today remains Magnusson. Mvp Talk Talk About Dallas and New England. Which is the Internet traffic game of the year? I really final posted. And we'RE GONNA fall. Show Feed Dr. It sounds good care. 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You could say that I'm being nitpicky about the whole thing and maybe I am but I looked at Luca going into last night. And you're like eighty five career games and twitter's losing. Its mind because of what he's doing to the Golden State warriors are run through honestly. I just have the first quarter stuff. Because that's all you really need and I can be stubborn You know I'm not GonNa say I can be. I am stubborn. I am stubborn when it is a thing where it is day. This person the best player in his sport or This is somebody who's now top five live and he goes stats can tell us that play. That person is is playing at a top five level but it doesn't always mean like in the grand scheme of things. These are the five guys and now a Luca Luca. I don't know what you do with him because it almost feels like any cap you're putting on. It could be too low like maybe I'm wrong like if Simmons just saying hey. Luka is the first guy started franchise with right now I mean it still sounds crazy to say out loud after a year and not a month in his career ear but maybe it's the right answer. No maybe I should be but I always feel like whenever you're less stubborn is when you actually start making those mistakes. Because we Ron Anthony. Davis as the franchise franchise building piece. I still think is in the conversation and I know the counter is GonNa be injuries. But like I pointed out if it wasn't for last year's debacle he would have played almost like three full seasons and load load management terms by the way You know I look at Anthony Davis what I really want Luca over him right now. Oh okay okay. Maybe you know what I want him over John Us. It's like that seems insane but like even the beginning of the honest thing when everybody was starting to love him because it was so impressive from a physical standpoint if you watch those full games I'm talking like three years ago. Jaanus there. There are moments where you go. I don't care what is he and then he just got better and better and better like Paschal Siachen wherever you go. I mean who saw him going from last giraud two years ago last year. And then you think okay. What's the next level now? It looks like a freaking superstar and I you know I I asked myself sometimes on like okay. We'll should you have seen these things. You know. The Pasquale Siachen stuff is so crazy because it just the amount of time. He's touching the basketball now this year compared to last did you think okay. Well wait a minute. Should he have just touch the ball. Well look he wasn't going to do with Kawhi but if you just had more touches ball possession would even playing like he is this year last year weren't there now where they have won a title now. But that's what happens with younger. Players is that we talk ourselves into what the impossible can be. When usually that impossible doesn't exist? I and Janas has become the impossible version of whatever thought he could be There are other players. I'm not knocking Devon Booker here. Because he's having a good year but look at the beginning beginning of Devon Booker thing here like what could he be could he be and then what happens is and it will happen Yoenis if Janas has like an early exit from the playoffs which could happen because the depth of the east. At least right now it feels a hell of a lot deeper than it. Did you know in September and October and we're trying to project this stuff. If Yana sort of have some kind of early exit out of the playoffs you know what would happen like wait a minute if this guy's Mvp back-to-back MVP. What are we really talking about? Can he carry a basketball team. You know what happened. They had to only last year and then they blow it. So who is he really. And that's what we do and I WANNA do a longer form thing on the time line of an NBA player but the beginning the impressionable nature that we all have from the outside hoping that it could be different hoping somebody could be the next Lebron and all these things but Lucas doing crazy stuff and it's hard. It's hard to be tempered with anything watching him so look look last night He went into the game coming off a forty two. Twelve and eleven rebound triple double. It's the first Dallas forty point triple double in team history. He's now ahead of Lebron. Lebron triple doubles this year. At times look triple doubles can be a little overrated. But when it's I think it was the Lebron triple doubles what it was coined when it was thirty ten ten so last. Here's raw numbers. Twenty eight eight and six forty three percent and thirty three percent from three on seven attempts per game from outside this year the raw numbers thirty ten and a half boards and ten and a half assists. Its assist number. I I apologize nine. And a half boards forty nine percent from the floor. Thirty three ISH percent from three we on nine attempts the P. R.. which I know is almost becoming an okay? boomer thing by the way the okay boomer tweets suck. They're just they're just not funny And and everybody does them now with anything That I do because Long said it to me once and now people won't stop doing it is. Pr was nineteen and a half this year. It's thirty two and a half and and the usage rate went from thirty one percent last year to thirty eight percent and I'm going to get into the usage a little bit later. There is there was moments last night where it was unbelievably easy. Because the thing with Luqa that you'd say is there's a one hole in his game it's like is he this killer from outside shooting. And no he's not steph or even hard even though hardens opens numbers of dipped a little bit this year. But I'm not worried about hard not being able to make threes. You're not going to put them in that class. But that's what we want to do. Because now we've all raised the stakes of like we want every single thing to be perfect. It's not the rebound in an absurd historical rate for a guard. It's not the you see everything. He had a lab with Powell. We read the screen role perfectly. He had another one where he threw it up ahead in the corner to three point shooter. That was set up before the defense was and he thought he had another play where he was in transition and went no look to finish Smith to his right side where the no look completely frozen defender. He's got that Nash thing going on where when Nash used to drive it was my favorite thing to watch Steve. Nash would drive and defenses. Just didn't didn't know what to do and they're always worried about the past. People would just be jumping out of his way. And now you have guys that don't know if they should jump Adam. Jump away from. Come off of the outside outside shooters to give help like Willie Collie Stein had a moment where he didn't WanNA come off Prazengas. When Luca had a wide open layup because he's still wasn't sure now that may have been Willie Cauley Stein and lifeless Golden State team which at times looked at least like they're trying but that team is really bad and there historically bad defensively and it's all GonNa make sense because it's a a bunch of role players and I tweeted out last night? That Sam Hinkie said Hey. I kind of liked this group This would be a Hanky by design roster and was Golden State. It's only the aftermath of multiple injuries and and hoping to be competitive and now they're not going to be competitive and they were. They were lifeless last night. Alberta at one point had a three his face he just like early in the game games. Like this is ridiculous. So Luke over twenty two five and five in the first quarter. And you're just sitting there going like anything's possible maybe with this guy he's got this Kawai shoulder older frame and he's bigger than Kawhi where Kawai can dribble into you. You're in front of him. You don't know really what to do because it's almost like imaginary girls Lacrosse bubble. I don't even if they have any more. But that's how Kawai is able to get away with everything he is because you just you can't get as close to him as you can with other guys and it's the same thing with Luca. Kaluka understands the pacing of his dribble when to speed you up when to slow you down and I did compared to hard and coming out of the draft so this was never a hey. I don't like Luca I just push back on. Could we really be watching the best player in the NBA. And on top of this all the mavs are a five seed. Okay Dera five seat. So it's not like Lucas doing this. Oh Hey by the way. It's really impressive. Numbers are sick. But they're too intent. Now that's not the case so this is open minded Luca for the rest of the season. I'm going to look at it that way. I'm going to try not to be stubborn And it's not knocking the game it's going. Are we really looking at somebody who could be. He considered the best player in the NBA by the end of his second season. Is that really possible. And then what happens to and this is it. It's not hey great stats. Oh Hey you made the playoffs just back to the honesty. It is if you're really one of those special special guys or there's maybe five or six of them that can carry a franchise then you need to carry a franchise and you can't can't make a ton of excuses about everybody around you and is good as Carlisle is expect prisoners to get better. Because it's been a little rough here in his Dallas run. I don't don't you know look I. I still have a hard time believing talent. Wise the roster's good enough to take out some of those top four teams in the West but it is so impressive I'm I'm I don't WANNA see him to run out of things to say about him because I think he's going to do so many different things. That are impressive. That will still be able to talk about but That's where I'm at right now. A Luca okay. Trying to think of I left out anything there now. You know I don't want to do. I'm sick of the Luca trae young thing but it was weird. It was almost like Luca. Once people will say hey wait a minute. The the Hawks win the trade. Like actually how. No I just cranked this up to another unobtainable level. Who wants to talk? Rockets nuggets no one okay. We'll do we'll we'll make it quick. Fourth Quarter Eighty to seventy three. I told myself like don't but hey look the rockets. After a bad defensive star bad record star that won eight straight clink Capello by the way a twenty plus rebounds and five straight games. That's a franchise record. He's been incredible for them. Here's a weird number that I noticed that. Houston digging through the stuff prepping for it. They were Twenty-seventh Twenty-seventh in pace last year number. Two offense efficiency now that makes sense because you go wait a minute. Houston you know slow Gerbil on the shot clock do whatever. They're going so much faster now or at least their pace Comparatively run so much faster third pace number three in offense efficiency and their defense was really. I think it was like a top five defensive efficiency during that eight game win streak. So that's That's good news. That's good news for the rockets. In you know we all know where I stand with the team but They were they. Were just kind of a mess last night. Like I don't look at it. See how they're not that good. No not at all. I expected to have a good regular season record but westbrook starts the fourth quarter then harden actually came back in around ten ten minutes ish because they were down in this one Eighty eight seventy eight this was. I'm sorry I'm GonNa have to do a little bit of because it was really just one of those turn into like this bullshit fourth quarter. The officials were making a mess out of the whole thing. The way it was called all over the place was kind of a mess so I'm not making it out to be any sort of bias. Just guys were getting in the post host and then they were being called frauds offensive fouls now players can stick their arms through the offensive players arms and get their arms hooked in there when the ball even in the play and then that becomes some sort of hooking in place so that was weird but there's also they're bad charges called there's all sorts of stuff going on that I didn't love but hardened had a really bad stretch for downtown his a bad past the top of the key Craig goes for the ball as being you know. It's rolling back towards the nuggets. Basket hardened falls down totally on purpose. Rockets fans are going to say A. They're going to tell their kids that it was actually a foul on craigslist. You can get that mean joke. I'm Craig throws down. What was supposed to be a three sixty more? Like two seventy but we give them credit for it so so then the next play westbrook actually had a pick and roll it was a nice play was amidst because there's really good defensive play and hardened just lets his guy run away from and then harden did some weird like I'm playing center field thing where who so far removed from play it was laughable and I cut the video of it I sent it to one of my buddies like what is this. What is this And and that turned it from a ten point game to ninety two seventy eight and then harden came right back down because he was mad and kicked his legs out. And of course got the free throws and They challenged did it. And I don't know why coaches are challenging any of this stuff you think the pass interference things are being ignored by rests the coaching challenge the NBA. Now whatever we're done with you I didn't really like Denver's offense much either here. I mean Denver really just did a better job with Houston again. It was just a mucked up fourth quarter but Denver had these moments. How much they're getting Yokich on? These high screens really simple stuff high screens. He gets the switch with smaller perimeter player Murray has to play it and Murray and get him the ball. Murray apologized Dumont's Murray tried tried to get him in another time. They call the bat offense and Yokich. And there's there's really not much more than I can't like I didn't look at this and go. Wow Houston's really scaring me now not not at all and no Denver. I still resist that. They're going to be better than the clippers or the Lakers made even Utah. You know I think they get Houston and I just. I don't know I I know. I know how good the record is and what the season could be. But I'm going to have to see like longer prolong stretches of of really. I don't know buying into to Denver as hey I I have them I I I think Jaylen is like the only guy that I ever hear talking them up As much as he does. And if we look could it right now yet denver seventh seventeenth and offensive rating. And I know they're defensive. Rating is obviously not off the top of my head. Yeah I thought they were top ten their eighth so not not a ton on that one not a huge compliment and certainly not a huge criticism of either team at all Celtics and clippers. You didn't get a ticket. This one cow now. I don't get clippers tickets anymore. Because they're good. Yeah Puzzlement Next Guy. I don't like Celtics okay Your next sky. Sorry at sex for me to why. Don't give your phantom though. Don't tell you like Duke but also Notre Dame football. I'm from New York. I'm not from Boston. So why do you like the pats. Because we weren't a football house and I was like paying attention around two thousand one two thousand to discuss pretty good to have that worked out. I got a Jersey from like oh four so you know I got I at least got some credits. I'm going to jump into. A clipper celts. That game was a Lotta Fun last night but first this from sales genie. This episode is brought to you by sales genie. A product of Info Group. If you're in sales marketing or own your own business listen up. For Nearly Fifty Years Info. Group has helped professional succeed. Just like you we all know the number one reason. Sales people in businesses is fail in general is because they're challenged in finding new customers right. That makes sense. Hey I'm not even I'm not even I don't even have my own startup right now. I'm reading that sentence going. Hey I can relate to that. I'm here to tell you all you need is the right audience to call on or market to sales. Genie is the proven way to find a choir retain customers now sales. Genie can't make you pick up the phone. Bring your next customer to your doorstep but it will provide you with all the B. to B. and B. Two C. audiences for prospecting whether it's calling direct mail e mail org display advertising. 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Okay I mean so twenty twenty twenty Inbetween College and then after They offered me a full time position as groundskeeper and I was GonNa take it and then came out here instead. I have so many questions you graduated from college. Yeah Janet as well speech communications it was in in between college. You know what I mean. I I work summers as a janitor and you know oh the floors and shit you know and then I started switched to What's the name switch to groundskeeper and I thought it was like with my hands? It was cool. Got The drive. No the grounds keeping thing. Yeah but I would imagine fresh are you hadn't graduated college. I'm just thinking of right so then that graduated that summer I was doing Grad keeping again and I was like all right. They offered me a full time. And now it's like actually I'M GONNA go to La. Thanks though. Yeah I could see how moving. La To work for bills company was more enticing to grounds. Keeping thing I'm with you I thought perhaps there's a chance you graduated from college and then right out of college your first job as a janitor and I would imagine that you were lied to let ah. I don't know offense any of the janitors out there. I'm just saying that during orientation. The school wasn't like an in four years. We have an unbelievable placement in the janitorial services. Industry That would not be something I would think parents would be like. This seems like a great idea to take a tunnel and I will say you get to see the underbelly underbelly of the public school system which you know a lot of people only think that teachers sleep in their classrooms or something it gets crazy in there. That's all it gets crazy club razors system. Oh yeah tee janitors cheating. Whatever calm people's lives and God crazy so scandalous endless it? I just thought it was about simple green inventory and keeping making sure you clean your mop ripe okay. Let's Talk Celts They were Oh a sixteen to start from three co I started. Slow is the first Coop Paul George Game and then they do the thing you know. I should just double check this box score Gore because the the whole like the zoo bots deal and how they how they do. The minutes with this is really funny. as you watch actually played more minutes. He played twenty two so he was in there. At the Emmy. Just didn't take shots and it took three and then heartless basically it ends up being mantras entrees in Lou Williams to play bigger minutes than zone and heartless Paul George played thirty seven minutes last night. He had twenty five. Kawhi it was. It was a quiet a quiet night until a little bit later. Jason Tatum. Unbelievable third quarter unreal threes. He just looked awesome. That Jab. Step get you going on the other way. Hits it right in your face so it was not one of those nights where I'm going. Hey is Jason Tatum. Going to be Jeff Green Because I do have those moments where I get nervous about that. The big situation when Boston's GONNA be problem. It just is a grant. Williams hasn't been great. But it's a lot to ask rookie. Hey by the way a rookie. That had the ball made decisions at Tennessee. And that's why he was so good like the stuff have to make really good and makes them a smart player and he shows these flashes of really smart plays. But when you never get to have the ball and you're supposed to make an impact is like an undersized guy plan frontline line deal it's not that great but they did play with Kanner Kanter Hasim of playing minutes last two games at all. I don't know if that's just easing them in. Or if it's KANTER They played them with Rob Williams. It's some point and the Celtics were up here. I mean they had a lead in the fourth quarter. There was good stuff going on with tatum. Marcus smart did not have a good game. We're GONNA get to that that we didn't have a good offensive game but then the clippers are just taking threes all over the place and I looked at it. They're actually not a huge three point attempt team team as far as their totals this year but they took forty five of them last night. So the Celtics by the way the the clippers are eighteenth and three point attempts per game and their the eighteenth in percentage from out there but they couldn't stop taking him last night so the fourth quarter. You've got Kemba wanamaker Jalen grant and Williams and of course wanamaker's out for TATUM GRANTS OUT FOR SMART when they go smaller Williams out for Thais and in the clippers. We were told you. They're closing group for all this. I just love what the clippers have. Where if you're building team it's great in theory? Say Hey we want all these interchangeable wings that can shoot and scoring and defend everybody. The clippers have the best one in the league. WHO's the best player in the League? And somebody else in Paul George no matter how you feel about his ability to be the number one kind of Alpha guy which I just don't think he's built for. He is a top ten version of the same thing. Shoot and defend switch so the dribble drive stuff they can do spacing it out with two top two top ten guys like their their guards are going to be Lou Williams and beverly and Beverly was unbelievable on the boards last night and just ate up. Celtics did a bad job Paying attention beverly. But it's an effort thing with him. Much like Marcus Smart. There's just certain players that are elite effort players and you wonder why they're always around everything and they're gonNA play forever and make good money. It's because they've just decided like I'm GonNa go ahead and be this guy so I I do respect those players lot even if at times it kind of drives me crazy but the clippers have this dual wing thing where it's it's really brutal to deal with. And even though I've said at times like hey I really liked their death. I don't know if I do love off their debt. I just don't know that it's going to matter. I don't know that's GonNa matter the place I think the one thing you're saying and I heard it already but it is good point If you're doing a Lakers matchup thing. It's WHO's guarding guarding. Anthony Davis can mantras really hang with him and chase him around. The whole time at least Macho is going to play with the kind of energy needed but we're talking about completely different sides so basically you're saying is there really active seven footer. That can go chasing. Anthony Davis all over the place His name's Jaanus and he's probably not available right now and durant's the other one. He's hurt so not going to happen. You're not going to get that piece. It's perfect but but with those wings whether it's heartless Kawai George and I know all of us have made the mistake at looking at like size bodies and thinking okay. Well that guy can guard Lebron for fifteen minutes so he can do this. I did it once a Demari. Carol Gnawed even reminding anybody in an audience that at one point I thought like tomorrow Carol was like Oh well you know. He's long now. Lebron eats up all those guys. Because 'cause he's Lebron but if you WANNA put a bunch of bodies on him That's a huge plus. Because that's you know we're still talking to a peak Kawai. That's a lot better than than anybody's options. And they have a second one and maybe even look. I'm not saying Mohawk bus or any of these guys are GonNa shut down to just shut the bleep up and finish the point all right. So after the slow stretch hits a big three then decides his dunk on everybody Sell still up though Marcus smart had lobbed that was blocked and went in. So they're up six and then it it just was a mess for the Celtics. They're at the end and a lot of it was the credit to the clippers. Defense Cama get swallowed up. They had Paul George on Kemba. They had beverly on Tatum I'm Paul George. Hits Mantras was a two point game than smart starts up with this airball stuff airballs a three. And then after the airball he let Lou Williams Williams run right past him in transition and Lou Williams hits a three and then it feels like okay. The game's going to be over than tatum pushed off on. Paul George hit it tied at ninety seven. It was a push off. Everything's a frigging push off now. Oh all the time sportscenter makes you think it's everybody's getting crossed up his some twenty three year old kid from Syracuse. Doesn't know the difference between across up in an offensive foul rant over. I've already done that ramp before. But this was about the clippers defense and they want an overtime. And that's the problem at times. You'll see with Campbell with Boston. Despite that ain't game winning streak cameras. I was GONNA get beat up sometimes. And it's GonNa suck and I think you saw some of that last night now. Marcus smart is kind of the story of this game because I know I've had my problems. uh-huh with him He now is on this stretch where he had these two big airballs. He didn't get back on Lou Williams and there was another Eyeso- so play where he like. Fourteen seconds left on the shot clock and he was on the right side. I don't know if he's GonNa initiate anything or if he was just going to go for and Stevens like all right. No no offense here timeout. He's now seven to twenty last night one of eleven from three game before that five or twelve three ten from three night before that to sixteen one. Eight from three but the four-game stretcher for that he shot it really well my point with him. It was always great as the Kawai defensive play as where he goes throws it off there are not. They're just not many players that are willing to make that play in in this league. They just don't understand it and he does all of those things and it's awesome but I know that offensive numbers are better. I know the fourth quarter numbers incredibly efficient. But if you're watching these loving all of these smart shots like it. Just it's a simple my whisper thing you could just take five. The you know those five horrible shots you take just stopped knows right. And there's no no you need him now you don't you. Don't you've got Cambe. No Hayward clearly hurts them. The Celtics have this really good kind of lesser version of all these interchangeable wings with Jalen and tatum and impaired healthy That the clippers have and these other teams aspire to which is going to make them better like the Celtics are just better than I thought. They would be their top ten offensive defensive numbers but the big combos is going to be weird and certain match ups the Kemba when another team wants to go really big at him is GonNa hurt him. And that's where hayward comes in because his playmaking or Kemba maybe takes. That's that's the thing is the clippers. Don't need to trap you the clippers. Just each you up. They had a play where it was as a marcus. SMART and tatum exchange and it was defended by George and Kawai and I think they switched it and then that was it then have to trap anything that's crazy. That's such a great advantage to have that kind of stuff so I don't WanNa make in. The smart thing has been much better this year but there are those games you just got a guy who's GonNa shoot ten eleven threes. Like I know the numbers are a little bit better but seriously especially when tatum. It had that kind of third quarter that he'd had so cooper's of the better basketball football team. I think you'll end up seeing that later on. But the Celtics start to this end that eight-game stretch and how solid defensively and how different team is moving the basketball It's been a lot of fun to watch them so far but credit to the clippers. Forget that one at home after tatum hit that three to tie it up. I I spent a Lotta time closing out. Friday's podcast on the myles. Garrett incident with Mason Rudolph and basically my my biggest the premise just became this thing that we do in America where the person who did the worst thing is is right in front of us and then we act like there's a million reasons why we should blame all these other people for the guy doing the wrong thing. I am not a moralist. I am not And it's not like I can't sit here and have a sympathetic lean towards this is right. This is wrong but I just know that I don't really feel comfortable saying this person is the worst person of all time and what was really interesting after that myles Garrett rant that a lot of people like I had two who different. NFL sources reach out to me. People with actual teams who said miles is probably one of the most impressive people they've ever been around Very similar stuff. I I met him. I never pretend I know those guys car wash Chris Long You know feels really good about him. Working with water boys. And I I know the water boys organization made aid statement and it's unbelievable charity and something. I've been lucky enough to be a part of a couple of years. And it was very consistent. Two like miles had a bad moment and everybody ready saw and then it just becomes this overwhelming thing where I almost think as a society in the moment were really bad about talking about what punishment is deserved at the. NFL had come out and said he's been if the rest of the year and that's fine. Okay you know if they had said today you know where we've lowered the suspension. We've heard his appeal. We've lessened the suspension. I would have probably been okay with that and that might have. I've not been popular People that are asking for the suspension bleed into next year And this probably we're way to phrase it but I don't know I I just think we do this thing where it's like. Oh my gosh like we want instant death penalty and then seven days later. Like probations. Fine now this is state. We're turned because part of the appeal. was that that Mason. Rudolph used a racial slur which is news to all of us a week later Not to say that it didn't happen. I will tell you that I'm never comfortable as the white guy saying now. That's that's not true because I know how that plays if I were still at. ESPN and on get up or something that morning in surrounded by Former NFL players primarily black NFL players. You know it's just always a weird role to be like no I don't I don't believe him. Although black players I've heard numerous black players today say you know I'm not sure about that. I don't I don't know that I believe them If the slur were used it would probably be caught on some kind of Mike and the NFL. They had a spokesman today same. Brian McCarthy said the League looked into Garrett's allegations that route off used a racial slur last Thursday and found quote and found no such evidence. Joe Thomas who played for the Browns You would think if we want to get into this world by Joe. Thomas is very biased list. But he'd be trying to protect Garrett he was like look. These guys are all miked up. You should be able to go ahead and find this stuff appeals officers Derrick Brooks James Thrash. Okay so you know. We're talking about former players like like. Wouldn't they be motivated to try to find a way. Well maybe they're just motivated by trying to find the truth here but I think the problem for Garrett here on the time line is that if that were the case ace was it that you were so reserved after the fact when you were interviewed that you held back because you wanted to use it just the appeal or if you're doing the okay well real real talk. Is he doing the thing where. Hey let's use race card on this one. It's your wallet you know what. Let's let's go with this because it's it's a really hard hard thing to argue against like I don't know I don't know I mean does the NFL no with with absolute certainty is Garrett Possible Z.. Capable of making up slide. Protect himself because people have gotten to him saying hey we just go with this play because it's hard to argue against it it just makes you know it's GonNa look bad for somebody to say no I didn't happen and it was one of the things you're you're never truly comfortable with but it was. It becomes one of these topics. It's really actually impossible to debate. Because 'cause none of us I can say the time line seems off why now if not then okay but then I know the counter to that is I've just explained and isn't there some some possible where we could find this and yet there's other guys in the field saying that that didn't happen. I've heard some people say well only two people know Rudolph and Garett now. There's a bunch of people that were around him. You would think somebody else would have heard or now you have browns teams that have to answer this and some of said. I don't know what happened in other set would lie. So maybe in this moment you know Garrett I was certainly not aligned with all the other people that wanted this kind of like multi year banishment for Garrett. Because it's just I really believe in that stuff and I think everybody cools down after a few days but if this isn't true it's worse than hitting somebody in the head with a helmet but I don't know I don't feel comfortable saying and I don't know how anybody else could feel comfortable saying which way they're leaning on on this one? Everybody have weekend hope you enjoyed the extended. WIP were all excited pod. Please subscribe rate and review EVAC. Chris long on Monday par.

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The Mullens Revolution

"Bill flash ski what he paid Sarah Spain and Kevin Blackstone for the last time in this reality today. Little matter of how far LSU dick Nolan's fescue being forty Niners history or best QB ever ever. Speaking of goat's Brady, verse Rogers, and really speaking of goat's Simone, biles doing the single greatest athletic achievement in the history of sport. One last time without be mentioned a reality. Let's go around the horn. Are you guys ready money today? This show better. Here's Tony really we start with the Nick Mullins revolution. It was televised to sixty three passer rating over one fifty so good. Last night is Twitter account was Berith mid gate Kyle Shanahan, and you'll never know until you see someone that is incredible advice. That is incredible life advice fake that people and have a good weekend. The six most exciting version sports going forward CD better. Nick Mones QB controversy. Also, the raiders, Sarah. Let me ask you. This was moans that good over the raiders. I don't wanna take anything away from him because you could put up a bunch of guys and have their first NFL start not result in at one fifty one point nine passer rating the game he put together that being said he was only pressured on four of twenty two dropbacks any only through zero passes and debate windows, meaning that raiders defense stinks. He still stepped up its. It's still an amazing story. But he was certainly not facing the most terrifying of opponents last night. Devon, black stone out of your view moans. Not only was it. Not the most terrifying. It was actually the most terrible passed in the NFL. They lead the league in allowed yards per attempt, which means nobody's ever around anybody that they're supposed to be covering their twenty ninth and touchdown surrendered through the air. So what you saw last night was par for the course with the raiders pass defense. So give credit to Mullins for hitting his open targets. But unfortunately, have to give them an Asterix because of who was playing against Bill Plachy. Yeah. I really so much want to give credit to this guy. What is so such a great story? You see him crying after the game? Do the stories about him credit working out piping? He was calling. Yeah. You know? But it's the raiders. And they didn't even you're saying. Satistics the easiest a life or quarterback in any game this season in differ for the entire league. So I just don't see how anything statistically Friday is the easiest show to score points at around the horn. And you don't see me raining on your parade. Nobody page you have more Friday wins than anybody in around the history. Should we put an asterisk on? All those no not at all. And I don't want take you away from him. And then you took stuff away. We got to Bill punishment going no fit spot that made you about defense. Oh, by let me talk about Molin does the only only panelists here who's ever been to Hattiesburg, Mississippi and covered games for Mississippi. Southern I'll tell you that his. I'm talking here. All Brett farve records of sippy southern. He said all the conference there to God does more preparation two years. He sits at home in the middle of crowd age and calls out Barcella plays. I think that if you're in canton, Ohio just all for show. He. That argument is getting to canton, Ohio in any way. If you're gonna say the names back to score you back. Let's go back. Let's go down a little bit. Thank you page. Woody. Let me ask you a question about this Jon Gruden he'd double down after the game on saying players are dying to play for the raiders that he's getting calls. How does that come off to you Sarah Spain? Well, I believe that's collusion. Right. If active players are calling and saying they will come to his team. But beyond that to me. I think I don't know that it's as much a shot as current players as just the reality that he's trying to create if everyone's talking about how terrible things are no cleaned. If everyone's talking about what a terrible job. He's doing. He needs to create another reality by putting out there. Many people are saying how great this team has many people are saying how much they wanna play for me. And he's gonna keep saying hoping that he can make it through. Okay. Let's not speak down on another reality right now when we're launching another reality Monday, that's prop that up a little bit Bill Plachy Nosair. Direct shot at his players. Instead of saying we have the answer here. We can figure it out here. He's saying other players from other teams are gonna come in and save us that really demeans everyone that locker room that's already dead already another tank tanking. Anyway, they all went out of there. I thought it was shameful that he said that and I thought of the fixes team. And again, this goes in the whole thing that Gruden clearly this is not working. He's like he was a great coach at one point. Maybe now he's just a TV star act like a coach, it's not working page. Woody. Thanks a lot. Check back Bill in into ninth year of his contract. Maybe he'll have this team turned around. I think we'll be around. I think people are calling him like me I could play there and people that are forty eight years old or calling him. And I think there are some players like Dez Bri the reach out 'cause they wanna play in Vegas in a couple of years. But why would he make something like that? Rain very hard on the players. He has there. This is a team that's in total disarray. But it's typical of what he was doing when he left the NFL is a coke love when you guys say total, disarray, like there's any other kind of disarray. Yes, disarray is total. They maybe the quote players are dying to play for. Maybe it's just dead players wanna play. We'll move on. Let's talk catty the question have you ever seen the number three team in the country? A two touchdown underdog at home. True story. Nixon was asked to be would kick a receive. And he said he hopes to kick ass. Woody what would LSU tomorrow to pull off the upset on Alabama? And if they do if they do what would it mean for college football? It'd be great because football they'd also jumped Clemson would be number one in the next poll and in in the national championship situation. But I think that in order to win you gotta take advantage of a Saturday night in Baton Rouge, anybody that's ever been with. No that that crowd with tiger cage. You don't wanna get anything close to either one of those? And Secondly, here's the got it survive the first half because they're going to miss their best defensive player white who was suspended for targeted. That's yet. Another stacked up again, they've got two first round draft picks in the secondary a, greedy and grant. And it's those guys can get interception our turnover, and and keep it close because I know this is not gonna make sense. But in the fourth quarter, Alabama being outscored this year. I know it's against four three players. In the fourth quarter as to even played in the fourth quarter. So when you're up sixty points, that's some place. You're never in this show. What he page. Maybe take you off the pedal. We'll bit sarahspain how about you. Yeah. Anybody says saying that is ignoring the fact that they're so far ahead in the fourth that they don't need to put their best players. And that's why they're being outscored more importantly what they need to do on offense is be patient with their run. Let the clock run down to keep their defense fresh and keep the ball out of his hands as much as possible. The one defensive issue of bama's been having been with past place to running back. So they need to push that and keep keep the clock running defensively. They're secondary is so good. They don't put a lot of pressure on teams. But they need to put pressure on to us. So they need to take some chances defensively actually press on that front frontline Kaby Alabama. Nick Sabin has played their games in death valley of all been pretty close. So to me that means what you need to do. In order to win is to create some turnovers. You gotta hope that that death valley crowd rattles tool a little bit. Maybe get a pick. Maybe you can. Flip the field. Maybe you can get a fumble recovery or something like that you need some sort of momentum. But the reason that is such a big discrepancy in this point differential from the odds makers because that's how good this Alabama team is unbelievable talent and the town. But it sounds like you're saying the games at LSU have always been close in this robbery. And maybe if you were putting something on this game would be leaning towards LSU pick. That not that brave. So how about you? How about you heaven you wouldn't take LSU in two touchdowns? I'll take LSU to win outright in this game. The waiting for somebody who won the race go round. They eighty four the last night seven games down there. They play tremendously at home to Alabama's only faced one defense in the top forty this year LSU is ranked seventh offensively I love, greedy Williams against two. And I love Joe borough in this situation and all the Alabama is has a little bit of we against the run. You can run against them. LSU run the ball control the clock off the field. Coach wins game. Go tigers. Okay. Clash she convince anybody hear what he paid sarahspain. No, no. I would just tell you savings been there five times. He's won four those games. But none of the hill have been over the over ten points. So. Kevin Kevin's hip to that. But it's okay. All right. Sarah. You're an absolute no, no else you in this game for you. They're not winning. All right. We'll move on NFL games in the week or two of them. Are just incredible Packers patriots. We'll talk about that one by herself. But we've got Rams and we've got seats. This is the one versus the two right now in the NFC undefeated team, and it's six one team, although everybody seeing Nick Mullins rear view mirror and getting a little panic leak may be catching up to the Rams or at least ask you. If you think that's the case three of the last four wins for LA been within a field goal Bill. We'll start with you who has advantage Sunday. And what is Rams have the advantage in the there already was stellar? They added Dante Fowler. They got a edge rusher. They needed their offense can be unstoppable. They've won big games on the road in places in Denver in Seattle. They can play in these conditions. There's better overall team in New Orleans. They have more weapons were ways to beat you. They got a coach that's all that's on the cutting edge. I'm taking a Rams filers plug in and play. And he's going to be good to go for. Yes. From the edge. Absolutely. What do you pay? I just don't understand Bill picking an LA team to win. You remember Bill? Good times. We've had a New Orleans, and you know, how long those to window every none of us. I want to hear more about that. What we're getting that going to commercial break. All right. Go ahead. The saints. The saints at home are invincible as far as I'm concerned, they rarely lose. They're they are number one. We know about girly. But the saints are number one. It gets run in the NFL this year. I got the best leading passer in the league this year. Drew brees. They've got a running game. They've got wide receivers. I think this is a bigger game to the saints because the Rams can lose. And you know, they've had three games to two and three they've won by. They're ready to lose on the road. Sarahspain? They are in fact, Vincent because they're ten and eleven and their last eleven at home. So that's not invincible. But that being said the reason part of the reason they've been so good is because drew Brees is getting unbelievable protection. He's only been sacked nine times this season, which is only more than last night in one game. But it's also one fewer than Aaron Donald sacks on the season. Which means that we might see some real pressure for. Drew brees. And I think until the Rams lose a game and actually full on lose a game. They will always be my favourite even in New Orleans. Give it absolutely. I mean, there's no evidence to suggest that the Rams would not win. This won't win this game. Bill pointed out, they have a better offense Bill went out. They have a better defense. And what no one point out is guess what they also have bettle better special teams top five in the league in that category right now, and they're playing what they world of confidence. And even if girly is taken out of the game somehow by by the same. They still have weapon. Okay. Speaking of a world of confidence. It sounds like the trip in Baton Rouge or New Orleans wherever you guys that pledge skied and paid shared in some confident moments. I wanna hear about this. We'll go to break here by yourself. Play for fifteen just get to the good stuff. Please go ahead and go what I hear about it. No. I can't I can't even begin to go. There. Don't remember. Neither. All right. We'll take a break your cellular side. So Bill I said put on a pair of my name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom my first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance good. It's it's it's like a cigarette. But not I don't miss smoking. At all. Like, I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Make the switch and J U L dot com slash sports. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine isn't addictive chemical. Packers patriots Sunday night Rogers Brady put. Electric. Show said unicorn talk leading this. Here's Tom Brady. Get you really this isn't the Super Bowl. This isn't a playoff. What he told Jim gray of Westwood One. Did say he was excited for this one. What do you buy or sell Brady downplaying the importance? Thanks for coming to be reality. Tony I am selling what he said. This is a critical game for the patriots for both teams. Obviously the Packers need to stay in touch in that division. And the patriots are chasing the chiefs. They might have to go to that playoff game in Kansas City. They may not get to the Super Bowl if they lose this game at home. This is an important regular season game. Because as what he mentioned the Packers are third in the NFC north right now it matters. Whether they win the game. But what doesn't matter. What happens between these two guys whether or not will affect how we see them. We're not going to change how we feel about Brady if he loses it doesn't take waive his brings and we're not going to change how we feel about Rogers. Could we're always gonna blame the team and coach around him for what he doesn't win. It's just a fun game to watch. This is truthful arrogance coming from Tom Brady, look he plays to go to Super Bowls Aaron Rodgers trying to get the Packers back into the playoffs for the first time in a couple of season. So he's absolutely right. That this is neither a Super Bowl nor a playoff. Yeah. Just Brady being smart. He doesn't want the attention on him or the team. He wants to call me, the low-key, and yours is going to be crazy enough as it is. This is why he gets the super bowl's 'cause he doesn't treat every game. Yoed out make a pick for the game. Will you got backers? Patriots. That's inanimate for four. All right. We'll move on by herself. Two. Got a motor the Bob. Firecracker? Magic Johnson was calling Luke Walton into his office following the Lakers win this two game road trip. Magic reportedly admonished Walton in an aggressive tone over the team sluggish start painting a picture of rising pressure on Walton latchkey. This is your cat by herself pressure mouthing on Luke Walton, I'm buying it. It feels like the end is coming near it. Just feels like Luke never really had a chance. He wasn't magic guy. He wasn't LeBron's guy. Jeanie Buss supports in. But she pretty much get your franchise LeBron now LeBron's working in conjunction with this. And I think he deserves the chance he has. They were sixteen sixteen at the end of last year. He was bringing young players along it's hard to adjust with LeBron James team is hard to figure out where who knows where? But I don't think he's got shot. What do you think the time line is here? What are we looking at your how much time I have? If this pressure is the Lakers fired both Mike Brown and Del Harris really early in the season. They're not afraid to do. It could come at any time. Come anytime who come this weekend? Yeah. I don't think this weekend. But he could come. It could come before thanksgiving. What he paid makes no sense. I'm celebrate the guy has great roots. As in his basketball career is family and coaching with the warriors. And you're gonna give him a full chance because you didn't hive what are they gonna do out there? Bill. Bring back the high chair, Phil Johnston grand. Who you gonna get this better than him with young players? I lou. I don't know what he's arguing with since Bill said, he doesn't agree. I. He's dealing with suspensions. Injuries a player who has traditionally when joining a new team taken a long time for that team to adjust to his presence. He's shuffling lineups. Because he's trying to figure out the older veterans or the younger guys who fits the best. He's doing what he needs to do to try to figure out this team, the problem as Bill said, it's even if we don't agree with an even if it doesn't make sense it. Sure seems like he's nobody's guy and most notably LeBron. So they're gonna go find the Bronx guy caving the long jetty for Luke Walton was shortened as soon as LeBron James changed addresses in welled up Laker Ville, and we all know that. So the fact that Magic Johnson with call him in and dress down or pro or suggest to him what you should be doing with the team is just really. Lou is a possibility or any other names anyone wanna say magic city come out and try to coach Steve and you wanna see that. So I just want to keep it's Laker land. Not Laker Bill. How are you? Move on by herself three. And this is a story that strikes credibly closed home to me Simone biles the goats we knew this ready, but her fourth world championship in the all around by margin that she'd never won by before. That's how big it was. And she did it after two goals, but while dealing with eight kidney stone Kaby you put this in the annals of history with Jordan, flew game Willis re coming back. It's one thing to have be sick in the stomach and have to do something or limp out onto a court for a couple of minutes and make one bucket. It's another thing to perform at a at a international high level with kidney stones, and you can't make this is unbelievable lashing. The most horrific words to use in a sense with kidney stones are vault balance beam. Yes. How does she do it? Which is worse hanging out with Blackstone having kidney stone at the world jokes. Fouled is got vault named for her. She didn't pull it all. But she has to do a half pipe physician somersault thing it'll be a mute sarahspain. Please save what he wanted to see where he was going with that. She hasn't lost a competition. She entered since twenty thirteen she's the most decorated gymnasts in history. She's only ever to win for worlds, and she did it this time despite falling and having kidney stones because she's that much better than anybody else. There's nothing to say about. Radio's instead of photos I had the right to the postage with row the word around for fun about LeBron or about Jordan or about Brady Rogers or Woody, and it's Simone byles head. It's Katy Decky at Serena Williams, and it's a whole lot of nobody you same bold navy and felt those people never lost any of their competitions. What he page. You wanna see where you're going with this? You're going to show well built flashing sarahspain showed up next. Tuck -nology truth brought to you by cold. Truth teenagers, can communicate entirely emojis. How my birthday party pizza slice kitten soccer ball pineapple truth. It's so easy to switch him. Save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Why are you talking about paper clips shoulder shrug high five wizard hat, what Goco fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more? Basque's sarahspain good look in huge second mental kings, one forty six last night Darren box with a thirty three minute triple double and they're six three. So young so fun so full of potential you remember when you were described like that Bill. Yeah. Yesterday. Tremendous. I think we ought to celebrate the kings while we can their fifteenth and defense fourteenth offense, go kings. Yeah. I think while we can't is the operative word because fourteenth and fifteen you know, the right around the middle. They're not a fantastic team. And they're probably going to sink in a great west. Let's enjoy Molly. Can I just like plaschke's embracing team the king while he thought he was going to be doing with the Lakers with the Sacramento Kings point for that Bill? Let's move on showed out number two. Montreal Canadian score two goals in two seconds left in the capital. This is N H L record. The second one was an empty netter. Helen, Preston, you, Sarah, I'm incredibly impressed. This is a record. That will never be beaten. You can't score two goals in fewer than two seconds. So this is a forever record. It's an empty net. Nobody was guarding the net. It's an empty net. They descended down the ice. I'm not that impressed. Empty records says plush, you know, what that's going to be the point that gives them the FaceTime. There you go Bill. I'm the big Louisville. Gotta hate to do this. But I gotta get profit Kentucky football big game this weekend. Posting Georgia elected in of chance to if they win the game. They will play at the championship. They have one SEC championship in forty two years. They got any snow junior running back a great defensive leads the nation type four points per game. I think he's got chance to win this game. I hate to say, but. Top tech team and know best get involved. All right here, we go. This is this is the last goodbye in this reality. This is the last time ever sitting in a chair hosting this show. Come monday. We're gonna take a new reality. Misted reality means to becoming through your television short scored at home. Monday.

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Ep. 257: MULLENS MANIA

Niners Nation

1:10:02 hr | 2 years ago

Ep. 257: MULLENS MANIA

"What if all you're breaking news alerts had a voice what would that sound like it would sound like today? Explain its daily news podcast from vox. I'm Sean Ramos grim every day my team, and I take one essential news story, politics, two movies sports science, and we break it down into twenty minute episodes. Perfect for your ride home subscribed today. Explain on apple podcasts or wherever you listen from Stitcher, and the vox media podcast network. Welcome to this week tradition in the Niners nation dot com. Rivals podcast. My name is Oscar apprecia- and this week. It is a win Wednesday, and it's actually Tuesday because we're coming at you from the past it's Tuesday voting day, and it went Wednesday. It's all of amazing this smashed up into one day that is not following any rules of the space time continuum and with me as always is co host, Mr. Jerod Brown Jared. How are you doing today? I'm doing good a day earlier than normal but excited to get at it earlier than normal. Thanks to the Thursday night game in in a little bit of an extended break for the forty Niners to at a good time. That's exactly right. So before we get into the final battle of the ban the game recap. I'm super interested to hear about how you're going to vote on I think prop seven because that's the daylight savings time one, right? I believe that is in. I you know, I've thought about it a little bit because Aaron is one of the places that doesn't do it. There are some drawbacks in both cases, particularly as a teacher. It's kind of nice right now when I go to school in the mornings that it's light out whereas just two weeks ago. I was getting to school rolling around six thirty or so kinda prepping and do an early bird stuff and his dark out and just sort of sets a sort of ominous tone. So I actually kinda dig setting falling back a little bit. So that I get the little bit of daylight in the morning. But I also understand wanting to keep it lighter a little later. It outta here with this politician answer. This non answer answer. It. You can't say both are. Okay. I I'm pinning it down in honor of voting day highly diplomatic. I think I I'd vote to keep it. Oh, man. Yeah. To get rid of it. Get rid of I'm I'm voting from afar with spirit only for California stuff because I'm over here voting in Texas elections, but it wasn't deed the battle of the bay. I have got a Turpin dream APA in American pale ready to go because that game was indeed a dream. I mean, we said at the beginning or in our preview we said the best quarterback is going to win. We just had no idea that best quarterback was going to be McMullan's yet. I did not see that. Come. I mean, I don't know that anybody saw it coming maybe perhaps accept Kyle Shanahan or assumed that he could make it happened on the less, but Nick Molins played. Not not lights out. But better than what the raiders could get their quarterback to play a whether that's coaching whether that's scheme. Whether that's other players around him either way. Nick woolens was the best quarterback on the field. And as a result. Like we thought the forty Niners came out on top pretty impressive while the forty Niners. Do indeed win the final battle of the bay the forty Niners one maybe their most complete game of the Cal Shanahan era. Their highest offensive output of two thousand eighteen thirty four points tied for their third highest offensive output overall in the collar Shanahan era. Of course, the Jaguars forty four points was tops Rams with could O'Brien Hoyer thirty nine points. And then the Rams again and that meaningless week seventeen game thirty four points the forty Niners defense had eight sacks. They are now tied Jared get this. They're not tied for seventh in the NFL. With twenty four sacks on the back of that aid sack performance and they had to turnovers in the game that plus two turnover margin incident. Really tied for the second highest total and the highest attorney over margin in the Shanahan era. Actually, that's surprising. Just because I don't generate a turnovers but overall in terms of a complete game. This was as big and as complete of a game as the forty Niners have ever put together in the Cal Shanahan era. And it took a pretty hapless Oakland Raiders team in order to do it. Typically, the forty Niners. At least recently have appeared to be this team the team on the other end of these sort of games. I mean this year it's been a better and their losses are tight and even the losses last year were tight as well. But sort of you you kind of been prepping or the that's the proverbial you prepping for the forty Niners being the team that sort of looks like they don't have the answers, whether it's because of the lack of depth or whatever it may be that turnover differential is absolutely huge because sort of efforts glance you think two turnovers not a big deal, but they didn't give the ball away. Really? And even the fumble that they ended up recovering was not a big deal. So that I the idea that they are sort of in the plus column any way you slice this game. As we saw turned out to be some. I mean, I don't know that anybody for predicted this kind of score this sort of apparent dominance from the forty Niners. And that was in all phases. Obviously the offense. Really exciting with Nick Mullins playing well for a week or at least doing well enough for a week. But defensively this was one of their best games in whether it's the raiders or not this NFL talent that the forty Niners went out in absolutely dominated in every aspect to have eight sacks in in really third of their sacks this season coming into the Oakland Raiders, whether it's stat padding or not the really impressive overall performance from the past Russian when we've obviously been on them a lot with caches Merced being sort of the guy, but I gotta give him some credit. He you know, he beat the guys that that the Oakland Raiders elected to line up across the line of scrimmage from him. So as you mentioned overall just any way you slice is an absolute complete dominating effort by the forty Niners in is kind of exciting. We said not a big deal. Final battle the bay. But in national prime-time, kind of nice to know that the forty Niners show up whereas the raiders, obviously didn't. One question for you about Nick Mullins, if you had to start a franchise right now would you choose to start with either Nick Mullins or Derek Carr? Go. Nimmo's? I gotta go with Derek Carr. Obviously, the Nick Molin story is very fun. And it's early on in perhaps he suddenly. You know, blows up all his colleague or peer from his Oma mater Brett farve. But this is one game as you mentioned against a bad raiders defense. I think Derek Carr guideline or not is working with a limited coaching staff because I've really just not impressed with Jon Gruden and what he's doing there and again defensively the raiders were absolutely atrocious. So it's not by any means all on Derek Carr. So I think I'd still take Derek are. Well, I think you're right to to choose Derek Carr. And ultimately, I think while yes, we joked a bit like the best quarterback on on Thursday wasn't Nick Mullins. He played a good game. But he he did exactly what the offense asked him to do. And that was just enough to beat up on the Oakland Raiders. I don't know that we are at the point where we're going to anoint Nick Mullins, a it was a fun game. But that's all it was. I think it's important context. The note that he's a third string quarterback. And I think that that's important to know only because that makes his performance just a bit more impressive. He had he wasn't invited to the combine. He didn't have. Predrag visit other than what the forty Niners and overall, I think you put it in that context and said, okay, actually, executing the offense may have been too much for a third string quarterback. And it's probably a lot for many third string quarterbacks in the league. But he did it against a defense. That is not good and a defense that where he was able to find wide open wide receivers. Nick Mullins effectively faced no pressure all might on Thursday. He was only pressured on three snaps. Three snaps not a lot. He did not have very many tight window throws. He only had three. He threw one to kill which was ridiculous catch by Gidel. I was absurd, but he missed on a back shoulder throw to Garson. And then he had an end zone throw that was nearly picked off and probably should've picked off. But overall what Nick Mullins did was he played average or at the expected level for an NFL quarterback and against the really really crappy defense and with a coordinator and someone creating off. Offense at the degree in school level to which Shanahan creates the offense. This is what you get. And that doesn't mean that Nick Mullins is phenomenal. It's a fun story. It's a great story. But this is base level offense if Shanahan has a quarterback that can execute. I would agree. I would also add that I think this highlights more. So some of CJ Beathard shortcomings in not that CJ Beathard is not a backup quarterback in the league. I think he's showing that he's good enough to do that. When Nick Mullins did do. Well, I thought was an I think some of this has to do with the fact that he like you mentioned that context that he's a third string quarterback. He recognizes. He's a third string quarterback. Right. These guys they have to go out and sort of make these wild plays. If he wants to keep his job because sort of sticking around on the practice squad and just being affective inefficient. There is never gonna give him the opportunity to ascend into either make the fifty three man roster long-term or eventually maybe not what the forty Niners, but to earn a starting position somewhere. What I thought he did. Well, was he took some risks? Is that a long-term sort of franchise quarterback? Jimmy Garoppolo might not even take the same risks because this sort of half to right? What's the worst that happens with with Nick Mullins if he doesn't play well in the game against the raiders that everybody goes always his third string quarterback Cal Shanahan's working with his backups backup? What could they possibly do? Nick Mullins doesn't have any career starts. He wasn't even drafted. You know, all these reasons for him not to be successful. Whereas when he succeeds, it's, you know, now, there's this national storylines. There's really not a whole lot of loss potential there for Nick Mullins to really rip the ball. In n let it go particularly the throat, George Kittle, which was a remarkable play more. So from Kittles perspective because I think maybe ten receivers whether it's titan or receivers, I think ten receivers may be in the league are willing to actually run over the middle like that in that traffic in space and still even put a hand out to potentially make a catch with what seemed to be sort of imminent contact. But the fact that Nick Mones through that ball is pre PR. Pretty wild. I don't know that there's many legit starting quarterbacks in the league that are gonna routinely try to make that throw. And instead, they might, you know, look look to sort of make the save check down throw Nick Mullins with nothing to lose. Probably not a great decision off, you know, sort of falling backwards, but let it rip nonetheless. I think as you mentioned this was more about what Kyle Shanahan can do with even average quarterback play an average offensive talent aside from George Kibble and his ability to when they recognize or when they play a bad team to just maximize everything in full throttle people. I don't even know that I would necessarily say that it's that you could compare this one game from from Mullins and Beth entirely because I think that what makes J bathroom basically recoil and become you know, kind of third round crap. Rookie CJ Beathard is pressure. The and we saw what CJ Beathard could do at sea at peak CJ Beathard and that was the first half against the Green Bay game. Of course, he paired that with a terrible half in the second half against Green Bay. So I think that CJ Beathard has had a little bit higher highs so far this season than Nick Mullins. But if Nick Mullins can just continue to execute the offense like this in play consistently. Then I think that you abandoned the peaks and valleys of CJ Beathard, and you go with someone who's a bit more consistent because I think that Nick Mullins did some really nice things. He looked off the safety down the goal line on the touchdown pass to Kendrick born. Which is something that again, we talk about that. Like, it's to some this amazing thing, but this should be expectation for for above average quarterbacks. Right. It shouldn't be some kind of marvel to look up safety. And yet that's where we're at between suggest either Nick Mullins. I think when you look at the big time throw that Nick Mullins had. And this is a pro football focus rated big time throw. It was a dig to Garson on a dagger concept and Edyta concept is really a two sometimes three person concept where you have if you're counting receivers outside Enron. You've got your number one on the outside number two in the slot and the outside receiver ones a run the dig route the inside receiver runs a clear. Or a deep route. And basically what that does is against cover to which is the raiders are playing you had Richey James run that deep brought occupy both deep safeties. And then you had Garcia run that dig and it had just a bunch of space vacated but Leon hall, which Niner fans should remember him from last year. I still can't believe that guy's employed, but he he's an hook zone, and he gets pretty decent depth. He's really really deep and Mullins has dropped the ball overly on hall who jumps to try and swat it. But ahead of the two safeties and drop it right into peer on saints, which he does it was one of his best throws of the night. And that's what I think. I mean by it's it's someone who is executing what the offense is giving him and he did fairly. Well. And so I think when you look at those two things I think overall, I'm not ready to say like, you know, I it's just this world-beater performance. But he did what he needed to do to keep the team on schedule. And based on what the forty Niners do on offense. That's enough to beat bad teams and the Niners. We. I would hope at this point in their development should be good enough to beat really really bad teams. You raise a really good point with the this idea of the peaks and valleys that you're getting with CJ Beathard. I think you're right that CJ Beathard best. A what we've seen from him. When he's at his best is a pretty impressive player, maybe not a long-term starter. But definitely has the tools to play in the NFL. However, his worst is pretty bad. And you know, the five turnover performance against the cardinals for the entire team is what what lost that game in CJ Beathard to obviously directly impact that turnover differential, and if neck Molins as you mentioned can just sort of be consistent, and maybe every once in a while make these big time throws one two maybe three a game cow Shanahan's gonna do the rest, and it's going to get guys open with average at best talent in Nick Molins, maybe the consistency there because I don't know that not I don't know the forty Niners. Don't see Nick Mullins yet as a long term option at quarterback. I doubt they ever will. But maybe this guy really is the deal. However, there is something to be said for sort of consistency in knowing what you're gonna get every week and being able to operate in within that knowledge and do everything else right to put the team in a position to succeed right now. Nick Mones is probably the guy that does that. I think in in that case should get the starting nod. But I don't know that you know, you're looking at this guy, even as a immediate backup long-term. There's still a lot to be seen there some stuff that he does. Well, there's some stuff that needs to get cleaned up. And perhaps what might be best is to just have Kyle Shanahan keep doing his thing. Yeah. I think the one area where Nick Mullins really impressed me was his performance against the blitz, and this speaks I think to something that fans have identified, and I think a little rightfully so which is the speed of processing or the mental processing that Nick Mullins displayed in this game that we haven't always seen from CJ Beathard it. I think it's a little difficult to to kind of unpack in discern really what it means. For a quarterback to have really really quick mental processing because I think that lots of times this gets thrown in lumped in with kind of like you're a dumb quarterback. You're a smart quarterback you, and I think sometimes honestly, this has racial overtones. You're black quarterback of your white quarterback. But I think that that mental processing for a quarterback is something that you can measure, and that is something that is there. And when you look at the performance against the blitz specifically, Nick Mullins, performed really really well didn't get blitzed a lot. He was blit six times. But on those six blitzes he completed four passes of those six for eighty five yards, which was fourteen point two yards per attempt and one touchdown based on PF gray that was his highest graded split, which I think is is important to note because that's the one thing that's J Beathard did which was hold onto the ball too long. And honestly even Jimmy Garoppolo who had a remarkably quick processing speed and release time in the last five games of last season. Didn't really display that I think as much as we would have liked at the beginning of twenty eight. Eighteen so I think of Nick Mullins can continue to process the game as quickly as he did against the raiders. I think that bodes well for continuing to manage the game not make too many mistakes because he did have some turnover worthy throws. But I think overall that's the kind of consistency that you would want. And if Nick Mones is able to do this for the rest of the year, I think it's pretty clear that he becomes the backup to Jimmy Garoppolo. And with the amount of tape that he would have you could flip them in a couple of years for traffic. I think that's always been sort of the plan to in regards to CJ Beathard is let's develop these guys once they signed Jimmy Garoppolo long-term. That's obviously this sort of the go-to guy figure out who's going to be the long-term starter in in in any excuse me, the long-term backup in any case. You know, all of these guys get to the NFL by being ultracompetitive? They want to be starters. If you can if Shanahan can get enough on tape for Nick Mullins, CJ Beathard who whoever it is to flip them even for a sort of. You know, sort of to compensate what they spend at least on CJ Beathard in in the first in the first place, even even better, but to identify a potential long-term backup that could win games when called upon we had this as a couple of weeks ago. I think in regards to CJ Beathard in, you know, very few backup quarterbacks in the league are able to just kind of get inserted into the offense. And suddenly, you know, play like the starter never left. I mean, there's a reason that there's only thirty two starters in the NFL in. Sometimes I'd venture to say that we don't even have that many right now, but to have a reliable backup that may never actually be legit starter, but sort of adds, some consistency. Entrust their gives the forty Niners some leverage in comfort knowing that especially right now, if they're really trying to maximize or what appears to be, you know, when when John Lynch in Kashan in signed with with organization seemed like all right? We're going to really make a push this thing a backup quarterback. Hell. As we saw last year with the Philadelphia Eagles in having somebody that can get in there. And at least run the offense at a solid level is sometimes enough for for a good offensive coach to make successful. But it wasn't just the quarterback who had success against Oakland. There were also other parts of the team that had success against a a hapless raiders mandate. They are they're fully embracing the the full tank, but one of the areas, of course, that had some success was the forty Niners receivers they took advantage of about opponent and had one of their better games of the year. They really did in as much as the story line is about Nick Moen's. I think what the forty Niners receiving core did specifically to get open. And then maximize yards after catch was really really impressive on a short week where you know, guys bodies. Just don't feel right overall. They had an eighty three point two team receiving grade from PF, which is very high. That's over nine points higher than their second. The second best game that they've played this year which goes against the chargers, ironically, another or the chargers a solid solid defense. Good team playing well, but the forty Niners receivers did play fairly well against them earlier in the year the yards after catch though. And this is sort of ties into our discussion with Nick Mullins in regard. Nick Mullins Nick Molins threw for a total of two hundred and sixty two passing yards. But specifically between pure Garson Richey James in George Kibble, one hundred sixty two of their receiving yards came after yards or were yards after the catch meaning that peer Garson Ritchie James and George Kittle catching the ball, and then continuing to run and in some cases, that's Nick Mullins putting the ball in a good spot. But in a couple of these cases, I think that's the explosiveness or the ability of Richie James, particularly and George Kittle the raiders defense didn't play very well in on those three sort of major splash plays particularly Garcia touchdown the very long. Impressive cat from George kit. Where Nick Mones threw the ball and some crazy traffic, and they still completed the catch and enriching jeans fifty something yard reception. I think that there's an important discussion there to be had that while Nick Mones did really well, the one hundred sixty two yards came after the catch on those three plays that I mentioned those splash plays. It was like. One hundred forty nine yards or so so these receivers also really really made some impressive plays. And if we're gonna discuss it, this is Nick Molin sort of breakout game think we have to inherently discuss it. This is the first time that we've seen the forty Niners receiving core. Absolutely dominate somebody. Well, I think when a wide receiver is that wide open, and they're able to get that many arms after the catch. I think that's a testament to the way the offense is structured. I'm thinking of to play specifically one. The why the absolute wide open touchdown to peer Garson. I mean that what Garson literally had I I don't think there was a defender within what five ten yards of him even more. I went and watched the safety was was ten yards was ten yards away from paragraph zone in his momentum was taking him the wrong direction. And you don't even get that open in the big twelve in college. Like that some straight MAC bullshit. Like, that's that. You do not even see that in college. And that's how wide open peer Garson was. And I think that Mullins, of course, find. Ding him getting the ball to him and making sure that that's a completed pass is is not doesn't mean that moans is great. It just means he's able to execute. And that means that Cal Shanahan called a phenomenal counterpunch to a collection of plays in that opening script. And then I think of that that the play to Ritchie James, and that I think is a little bit more on Mullins because he does identify the blitz and he does throw it through the open receiver. But then I mean that receiver had off coverage all he had to do was basically running catch and then sprint in the open field in that again means that you've got Shane news understanding that he's got to put those concepts together. And Nick Mullins just took with the defense gave him. I think overall the receivers played well, but I still think a lot of this has to do with with the way the Cal Shannon's able to put his receivers in a position to succeed. He just finally had a quarterback that could distribute it. He finally did in. It was really exciting to see as you mentioned with with Nick Mones ability to identify blitzes, which you know, so much of what you what I think a defensive coordinator wants to do. We'll get into this more even later, but you wanna bring pressure on a young guy that you don't know what sort of live bullets Nick Mones is seen and his ability at least on four of those throws to identify where the bliss was coming from to get the ball out in rhythm. And then to allow the receivers to make plays is really impressive particularly this far as making plays just another week where George Kittle shows up as as who am I would say looking around the league right now, he's he's one of the best from a from a perspective that he he's the high. He's the best receiver on this team weakened weak out. He's the he's the most dangerous threat. He's a mismatch. Whatever you wanna label him. We've yet to see somebody really put the clamps on him. And in addition to that, he's comfortable blocking the forty Niners can leave him on the field at all times for any reason. Even. When they wanna mix in some of those backup tight ends to go with two tight end sets right now as you look around the league. I it's hard to see a player that is playing better than George killer. Who is just routinely making splash plays. Did you see that George kill judges like how how good he's playing by? How other type how many other elite tight ends are following him on Twitter. Like apparently after Sunday's game. Travis Kelsey started following him. And get it was like, oh, this is great. I've I've been following China's Kelsey for years. So now that he's following me. I know I'm doing well. I think there's a I can't remember who said that there's a quote from famous athlete, it may even in by athlete. I actually might be Dwayne the rock Johnson. But I think he says when he played football. He's an greatest you don't have to tell people how good you are they'll tell you. So I think George Kittles on the right track. There you know, now that he's making a little noise. People are starting to let him know how good he is. But just overall an impressive player that coming out of China in a scheme that just doesn't highlight. Particularly tight ends. But really out boundary. Skill players in any regard. The fact that the forty Niners were able to get him when they were when healthy he looks like an absolute stud for the next four or five years. No doubt. And I do think it's important to note the talent level but Cal Shanahan is working with because he has remolded and reform this roster and the players that he's doing this with our a third string quarterback that didn't get a visit an undrafted quarterback who didn't get invited at the combine a third round quarterback for the other half of the games that were well more than half. Again. We're talking about. Matt breed is an undrafted free agent. George kills a fifth round tight end. I mean, the wide receivers were effectively scrapheap wide receivers peer or someone was considered a bit over the hill. Markings Gooden was considered just the deep threat Richey James is another late round draft pick. I think he's a fifth rounder. Trent Taylor's fifth rounder. He's not doing this with like pedigree talent. And yet he's able to be in the upper third of the league and explicit plays. His. His offense of Devi away is beyond. I think what the talent would give him his PF f grades are really really good. And I think it's just because he's able to maximize what these players can do. But I think this is also where you see a little bit of the marriage of the scouting department. In addition to what Cal hen wants from these positions and wants from these players, you see a bit of that combination of able to shine through in the way that Shanahan's able to deploy these players. So I think you look at the offense of success any offensive success that we've had this season is really a testament to both Cal Shanahan and how Shanahan has worked with front office. The we've had this discussion before, but this this sort of cohesiveness in an organization is critical to the sort of overall success. And like you said what they've been able to do really on the fly because you couldn't predict obviously the Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna go down. You couldn't predict jerick. Mckinnon really the free agent guide that they went after in terms of skill position. Couldn't predict that. He was going to go down. Dante Pettis hasn't played a lot as as sort of the receiver that they drafted obviously with his skills and ability in mind is far as what he could bring the Shanahan's offense. They're really sort of mismatching or sort of mixing all of this together. And it's morphed from what looked like it would be Jimmy Garoppolo in jerick McKinnon show to sort of using George Biddle as the focal point of this offense. And then doing other things around him in what he can do well sort of collectively as a team than to find some success. Obviously you wanna see it week to week play out in. There's been some issues with CJ Beathard at quarterback in in particular, some of their performance against their own a cardinals just a couple of weeks ago in they've still got some tests moving forward, but on the fly to do this is really really impressive. And it just in my opinion serves as a reminder that cow Shanahan. He's still in that top tier of not just offense of coaches, but have head coaches and in with even average talent he's able to. You know on the go and mid season continued to adapt and continue to make sure that his scheme is successful, which is really really difficult in the NFL where every team is fielding elite player, you know, above average players sands. Maybe the the Cleveland Browns from time to time. Now, this is still a bad Oakland team rather than we're not sitting here and saying that Shannon is ready to take the next step into being like the taking the team the Super Bowl or something. But I think it is important for teams to beat up on teams that they are better than when you're a good team. And we talked about this during the Harbaugh years, you should be able to beat and dunk on the teams that you were clearly better than it's when you then go up against the team that is equally talented or more talented that things get a bit more fifty fifty and in that kind of difficult I could win. Maybe I don't win kind of range. But ideally, the next that for this team is not to go eleven and four or ten and six, but it's to start convincingly and consistently beating team. Games where they are at either a coaching or talented advantage. And hopefully that talented advantage becomes a bit greater soon. But right now, I think the Niners have a clear coaching advantage for several teams in the NFL. And that I think is what showed in the game against Oakland. It absolutely did in. Once this talent is able to sort of match other top rosters in the league. In particularly looking at the indecision rival saints or excuse me. Rams the saints in a conference as well. But not not in division there. But nonetheless, those two teams for roster perspective seem to have better talent when the forty Niners are able to match some of those teams is exciting to think about what caution hand might be able to do. All right now, let's talk a little bit about spotlight players because then I've got one on defense and you've got one on offense. And while we're not talking a huge amount about the defense in the the recap of the Oakland game. Because Mullins mania was definitely the story. I do think it's important to highlight one, Mr. Dakota Watson every time. I think of this name I just think of that scene in coming to America as like crown heights. Ole miss the Randy Watson, that's what that's how I want to say. His name all the time to coda Watson. Putt. He basically completely abused, whomever. The raiders put out at left tackle. He had two sacks four hurries six total pressures. He showed speed around the edge power to go through offensive linemen. And even showed a spin move. That was a counter that was pretty effective actually had the offensive lineman. Not trip them. This was Dakota Watson's I came back from injury. And he played really really well again talent needs to be kind of put into or this needs to be put into context when he was going up against. A raiders team that looks like they've just flat out given up. But I do think the coulda Watson's definitely going to be someone. I'm watching against the New York Giants because if he can continue this performance, we may have found an edge rusher that can provide a spark where the Niners have had no spark edge rusher up to now. They really haven't in a reminder that Dakota Watson also is a core special teamer. So, you know, year one two three maybe of this rebuild. He's a guy that's gonna stick around that could play on the edge could play a little bit of Sam linebacker for them. Finally, we get to see somebody that can legitimately rush the passer in, you know, not. So surprisingly the rest of the pass rush. Did did. Well, also, it was sort of a collective effort. Whether that's because Watson returned or not he individually played really, well, the group that he's a part of or sort of that that pass rushing group played well in she was a part of that suits going to be interesting to see how they play against the job. Giants in other teams moving forward, particularly when they see the Rams again and have an opportunity in division to make a little bit of potential noise. But nice to have him back. I saw something today that mentioned or a a tweet today mentioning that Dakota Watson said that the reason he felt so good was that he's actually dropped a little bit of weight from last year, and that he was playing at a little bit more of a lighter weight, which obviously, you know, turns up that speed athleticism a little bit which is really what the forty Niners need in this scheme in terms of pass rushing ability. Solomon Thomas is gonna win with a little bit of hustle and energy and effort incised inside Buckner deforest Buckner is gonna win with crazy power length a good hand usage. But they really don't have that sort of fearful speed rusher. Somebody that can routinely get around the edge. And if Dakota Watson, obviously, a veteran in the league, but if you can come with, you know, even some even some bit of Burson explosiveness off the edge, you know, within the first three or four steps whether he's going to be. This, you know, high number. I don't know that he's ever going to be a double digit sack player. But if his speed and burst off the edge is enough to give offense of line offense of line coaches in offense lineman concern than the forty Niners have already improved their pass rush drastically. It'll be interesting to watch how they continue to to rotate those snaps moving forward because this is now another player that seems to have earned some pass rushing snaps. So you're looking at Sheldon day, Cassius Marsh. Ronald Blair Dakota, Watson sold Thomas to force Buckner. Eric Armstead in trying to figure out who among these guys. Or what rather what group of these guys three or four can be our routine pass rush package on third down memory expecting pass. I think Dakota Watson even in one week. Whether it's the raiders are not has to have put himself squarely in that in that conversation as a guy you got to get on the field. I think that this is now year this is your eight for Dakota Watson he was drafted by Tampa Bay in the seventh round in two thousand ten so he's been around longer than I than I thought he was honestly it felt like he was like a four or five year guy. And he's never had a pass rush grade above what looks like sixty seven or sixty nine which was twenty eleven twenty thirteen when he was still at Tampa Bay. So what's the likely outcome? What's the likely scenario? Chances are he'll come back to earth when he when he faces better competition. But I think that this is the rest of this year is the part of the year where you should be tinkering like you should be trying different different alignments and be trying different things with players. I'm glad that tar Baroness more got a few snaps their in the fourth quarter to see what he could do in some games. Naps. And I do think that if anyone coulda Watson should take some caches, Marsha snaps to be honest with you. We know what we have in cash us. Marshon it's just a rotational guy. That's just okay. So, you know, I think you're right to say that the Niners should be tinkering and trying at this point because they've gotta figure. Out who they're going to keep and retain in give meaningful snaps to next year. When the Niners are really going to be under the playoff gun. Absolutely. You know without calling out Cassius Marsh too much. I think that's the guy that that has to see some of his snap count dwindle. And maybe quite frankly that make that might make him more, you know, sort of effective when Morsch himself doesn't have to be this. You know, forty five fifty snap player game. I don't know his exact counts. But when he's not always the dude in the one that has to sort of be expected to be the speed rusher off the edge. It might actually make him more effective when he's not in every down player are apple. Let's get to the person that you jinxed because you full on Jing someone before the the game. And now, they have a flailing arm, and it was disgusting to see and hear on the broadcast. So give us your spotlight player. I've got a spotlight Rahim most are in in some ways. This is a bit of an apology. I'm sure he listened to the podcast just like many other 49ers players and coaches, but while Robert Thala front of the now, absolutely absolutely. Not surprisingly the forty Niners. Offensive turnaround is coming at a time where we were specifically giving advice there. But absolutely just before most or got hurt. I tweeted something out about, you know, his explosiveness, and he had that nice long. Touchdown touchdown that mcglinchey really led the way for but nonetheless, you know, here's where he most on the field again making an explosive play when he touches the ball. This dudes getting seven eight yards of pop in a variety of ways. So I'm highlighting Abiola. I'm feeling good. Because here I am identifying talent in in the forty Niners. Got this this explosive backup running back. Give him some snaps over Alfred Morris and all this and then his arm Ben's in ways, you don't wanna see a band on national television with through was so gross. It what you can hear the snap on the broadcast. It was bad. And at some point somebody that works within the production departments has to say. Hey, guys, we're gonna show this everyone on Twitter's asking for a warning. So let's let's give an open broadcasts warning before we show, it it just this sort of silly the sort of wims ical nature with which they go. Hey, look at this home. Gosh is arms into it's sort of silly. But just before he got hurt I called him out hyped him up. And then he goes and gets hurt in. It's really too bad. Because he looked like he was at a spot where you know, in terms of overall career development. Maybe this guy's gonna take a little bit of a leap in in really become an established backup player in in a league that likes to go, you know, running back by committee earn himself some snaps above that. He was a he's a Pro Bowl special teams player. And I don't know that people recognize the there is going to be a drop off in a loss because he's gone be gunner. He is he's phenomenal. And there's not many players in the league that can do it as well as he does. And in the forty Niners are now missing that which will be a problem with him gone now it'll be interesting to see where they turn for running back help if it is to the practice squad. I think it's going to be Jeff Wilson from North Texas who I scouted a when I did some draft work with Matt Miller of Bleacher report, and he just he's just didn't look like an NFL ready player to me. He's about six-foot under two. Two hundred pounds about one ninety five and more importantly in addition to sort of being a taller and thinner. He runs very upright with a lower a lower frame or excuse me, a small lower body frame. And in addition to that North Texas had to put him on a fairly strict nutritional plan, his senior season just to keep him on the field because there were some wait a concerns that you know, you gotta you gotta sort of meet these thresholds to be able to deal with this abuse. I don't know that Jeff Wilson is gonna come in and be a starter long-term at any any stop. He ever has his in his NFL career. But as we saw rain Moser was getting carries and offered Morris was getting carries in Matt Rita. Every once in a while needs a breather in just Jeff Wilson's on the roster. He's gonna get curious curious to see what the forty Niners do here because making up for the loss loss of most or both as a running back in a special teams player is going to be really difficult while I think that the one thing that they can do is is a result of something that happened earlier today, which is going to be the. Of a mere of Dula by the Detroit Lions. And I think that you're absolutely right. Cal Shanahan does like to rotate his running backs. He doesn't at least from his Atlanta's. The now hasn't shown that he really likes that kind of thirty forty carry back that bell cow back. He's always had a rotation and that rotation even when Morris and most embryo were the backs they had a pretty clear rotation. Even if Matt Brita was the starter. And I think Amir of Dula someone who just kind of fell out a favor in Detroit he is on the last year of his rookie deal. So it's twenty eighteen I think it would it would really cost the Niners about five hundred thousand dollars base with the rest of his game checks to to claim him on waivers and get him on the team. And I think that's totally worth it. I mean, this is a player who is a much better receiver than he is running back. But that's a skill set. The Niners could really use that Breda has definitely done well to improve his receiving game. But the Niners could do. To have a receiving back come out of the backfield. And this is a player who has had a consistently good. You know, kind of season and years as a pass catching back. I think the Niners should definitely kick. The tires on someone like Dula wouldn't cost them whole hell of a lot. They are third and waiver priority right now behind just the raiders. And the New York football giants, who of course, we face here in in just a few days, but I would much prefer the Niners. Put it put an away vers claim on Amir of Dula before I would say have them kick up. Someone like Jeff Wilson. I agree with that in right now on MIR Abdulah still on his rookie contract financially not going to be too expensive. You know, when you when you bring him in either way so the forty Niners. You know, obviously McKinnon was a guy they signed to be a long-term back. No problem bringing Abdul in at least for the end of the year in it becomes an evaluation opportunity as well. Yeah. I don't know that to me in. I I really again, I think Alfred Morris has. That story that you really really like. But I think after this year, I would much rather see someone come in and play for his spot because I think between McKinnon Umbria you're settled at one and two I think most has shown enough to be number three. And I think you need some other kind of wild card to come in to try to end and compete with most. I think that seems to be more like something Beulah can do and not something that that Morris or even Jeff Wilson can do. So I think the team should definitely put in a claim for him. And I would do that even before I put in a claim for Bruce Irvin. I would as well one thing I want to note too. Because I know there's discussion or at least a, you know, on Twitter when I mentioned Amir of Dula. There was a little bit of discussion actually from forty Niners of former forty Niners defensive lineman. Ian Williams about the need to identify a bigger back that can get them some goal line carries. Matt breeder runs hard in between the tackles. And Alfred Morris deci just because you're you're big does not mean, you are an ideal, you know, big back inside and obviously Williams played at the highest level. So. I'm gonna I'm gonna tip my hat there. In terms of veteran presence in and give him sort of the the give him the pulpit there to speak or the soapbox. But I might add that in Kyle check is a pretty athletic, dude. And you could get some goal line carries out of him. If that's really the concern if you're looking for short yardage carries. There are ways to mix up a who gets short yardage carries it in. If Alfred Morris is only job on the roster is to be a short yardage back. Then that's not good because you know, you're you're third forcing running back needs to play more than needs to do more than that they need to be able to play special teams in otherwise be much more of a presence in other areas than just hey when it's something in short. He gets on the field. Would you rather have a good running back or a big running back? I'll take good, please, exactly. Because I think that when you're looking at short yardage relations. That's what matters more is. Whether you have a good back, and whether or not you have a good offensive line. I think that this whole like I need a big back thing is a bit of an antiquarian ISM. And it's something that people think you need to have in the NFL. But if your if you have a really powerful strong fast back they can generate power with speed. They can generate yardage through vision and your offensive lines probably the most important thing here. Anyway. So I I don't think that you need to have a big back just to have a big back. So I'm definitely I'm not on that train. I'm like give me speed and I'll generate some power through speed. Absolutely. And and with some of the versatility that you mentioned Amir Abdul a brings there's really this there could in theory be sort of a triumvirate among the forty Niners running backs should that be a trio moving forward that would offer cash in hand quite a bit offensively. And in you know, he's going to be able to ski. Team up you know, power and and short yardage success. I well this next game is going to be pretty important over the forty Niners because it is. Indeed, the loser's bracket of the civil at this point the Niners of beat the Oakland Raiders. And so we are no longer in contention at least right now for the first overall pick in the NFL draft. But the tournament is not yet over we still have another game to face the giants to basically now at this point settle on who's going to finish second in the NFL draft. Because of course, the Oakland Raiders right now own the rights of the first overall pick. So this is still a game that matters to drop position. We're fighting for the things that matter Jared, the these are the things that we have to latch onto and it sounds like Nick Mullins is going to start again. And so I think if the giants and your defensive coordinator James, you Becher, which I've given him the nickname you because every time I hear the name James Becher. It just sounds like you betcha. So I'm giving him the nickname you. So it's James. You betcha. And I'm thinking, okay. How's he gonna Anak? How's it gonna attack Nick Mullins? And the first thing he's going to do is. He's going to send a ton of pressure because that's something that James Becher does. Anyway. The forty Niners in we just discussed this in regards to how Nick Mullins played against the blitz. Thursday night to the pressure that Nick Mullins saw wasn't much. And so if there is in a highlight, unknown because I think Nick Mullins as a whole is still fairly unknown right after one performance, if there is an unknown or a more important, unknown. The giants have to be looking at this going. Okay. Way to go rook. Now, we're going to keep coming at you. And in addition to bringing that pressure Becher comes excuse me. You Becher comes from a goes, you gotta respect the brand respect brand. Absolutely. He comes from an Amazon cardinal system working with Todd Bowles in Bruce Arians that offensively Bruce Arians is a risk taker Todd Bowles, obviously moved on to be a head coach Becher still at the defensive coordinator position. But he's coming from this coaching tree or this this this this full. Lhasa fee that we are going to be the the ones making we're setting the terms of the game. We're gonna play by our by our standards and our guidelines and that inherently says this is a defensive coordinator this gonna come after a quarterback. Yeah. You know, when you look at Bechers history in Arizona. He worked with Todd Bowles in Arizona twenty thirteen he assumed offensive coordinator responsibilities in two thousand fifteen he is a kind of a longtime Blitzer of quarterbacks in two thousand seventeen the cardinals under Becher blitz. Thirty seven percent of the time that was tied for fifth in the NFL. And I really that was actually down from the year before where it was forty one and forty seven percent the two years prior to that respectively, and they led the league in both of those years this year, so far he's blitz. Thirty two percent of the time which is a little lower than what he did with the cardinals. And so far, it's not been terribly successful. But I think that this is a game where bettors probably licking his chops. And he's thinking I've got a young quarterback. I you know, he doesn't have a ton of game experience, I probably need to send more pressure. So if I had to guess, I would guess the giants probably end up a little bit higher than that. Thirty two percent that thirty two percent average. That they've had this year especially because again, the Niners wide receivers. If we've seen any pattern this year of teams that have been able to disrupt the forty Niners offense. It's where they're blitzing and they're just able to man up the forty Niners receivers and the receivers haven't been able to break away. And so I think if I'm Becher and I'm thinking of how I'm going to attack this offense. That's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm going to play press. I'm going to pressure and I'm going to blitz and I'm gonna make Nick Mullins process the game faster than I think he wants to and that fits well within veterans philosophy. And I think that's that. That's exactly how they're gonna come out the forty Niners. In terms of overall talent is well, the the New York Giants don't have an outstanding defense and the name of the game. You know to not great teams the forty Niners coming off a win. But obviously still a lower level team in the league still picking in the top five. That's that's what you do. I mean right with with poor talent. Especially the giants defense send pressure. Try to force this this, you know, essentially this rookie quarterback into mistakes because otherwise you don't really have the players to sit back and just generate pressure with your front and and play a lot of heavy coverage on the back end a lot of heavy zone coverage on the back end. And and pick this this, you know, pick these these throws off from Nick Mullins. They've gotta bring pressure. They've got to get the ball out fast one way or another because their pass rushes isn't particularly good. Otherwise, really sands Olivier Vernon who's their best pass rusher. But asides from aside from him. They don't look particularly good. They just shipped off Damon Harrison one. Of their best defensive interior defensive linemen. They don't have a particularly good group of inside linebackers. Don't have a particularly good group of of defensive backs. They just let ally apple go to the saints in obviously, he's struggled. But he was a a one first round pick at cornerback. So they're they're t-. They're devoid of talent. There avoided talent right now as well and to compete with the forty Niners. Not that the forty Niners. Great but to compete with the forty Niners in particularly particularly to compete with Kyle Shanahan. They're going to have to bring a lot of pressure. And as you mentioned it just so happens that philosophically plays right into what we apparently. No Becher likes to do. You know? What's funny is? I think that even though bet likes the blitz a lot that hasn't resulted in a ton of pressures for the defense because I think like you said that just they don't have a lot of horses. They don't have the talent they have ten total saxes here. That's thirty first in the league. They they have the twenty ninth grade pass rush grade based on pro football, focus, and that's for the team. So this is if Nick mullahs. Can have another game where he just doesn't see a lot of pressure. This could be another successful outing from Owens. And now this is of course, a home game for the Niners against the giants. They've got two home games the last I think stretch of their season. They've got more home games than they had a way 'cause that opening stretch was difficult. So I think you know, irrespective of how much better is going to blitz. The blitzes are irrelevant if they're not successful. And so far bet your hasn't been able to turn those blitzes into success. And so even if you blitzes a whole hell of a lot. I I'd be interested to see how the Niners offensive line holds up because the office of line has been a strength of the Niners or so far this year. Mike mcglinchey, of course, about a run blocker than a pass blocker. But you've got you've got some interesting. I think back and forth there, and I'd I'd be surprised if the Niners weren't able to handle some of those bullets schemes and give moans a bit more time. And then hopefully Mullins gives you a a little bit of what he gave you against the raiders. But all right. So if the if the giants are going to. Play some kind of kind of man coverage and do that kind of stuff. Then really what we've seen Shanna Hindu is trying to attack linebackers because they're the week coverage defenders especially in the middle of the field. And so what do the middle of the field defenders look like for the giants. And are they any good? They're not in in to be succinct. Obviously they've got other concerns on the defense as well. And as you mentioned if Becher decides to play a lot of man coverage or to really try to take away the middle of the field. He's going to have to send help because right now the players that the the New York Giants have over the middle of the field or not particularly good. I think this is another game where George Kittle plays really, really. Well, particularly because the New York Giants have Alec Ogle tree and BJ Goodson at linebacker and particularly Ogle tree. I've been on him since he was with the Rams I think he is a he is remarkably overrated in really it's it's all because of a hard knocks with the Rams, and they did wonderful job of hyping him up because they've got to create a. Storyline somehow and not surprisingly, she soon as Sean McVay gets there. He finds a way to get Alec Oba SRI out of there. He simply not very good. And and he does a wonderful job of appearing to be good in in sort of his around the ball a lot. But he makes what I like to call sort of cleanup tackles, which is not a linebacker that fills downhill sits in the gap at the line of scrimmage. It makes tackles this is a linebacker that makes tackles six or seven yards down the field after he's already missed. And so he's in technically getting tackle stats in the numbers might look good. But they're wildly inflated by generally four play right now. He just sat out there last game. He's hurt. But the they're sort of backups aren't particularly good either J Goodson the couple years in the league. But overall a very underdeveloped player. And then the other players that they'll play will be rookies as well. So overall in terms of match up advantage just player to player in where the forty Niners can find success over the middle of the field. I I have to participate this Shanahan is licking his chops. And some of these throws might not be directly tied to over the middle. But when those players can't you mentioned Leon hall earlier being able to drop into that that sort of hooked coverage zone and moons being able to throw a ball over him. A really impressive throw. He might not even have to make quite as impressive throws this week. Because those players those underneath players if they're these inside linebackers for the New York Giants, they can't get the they just they are not going to be able to run with George Kittle almost anywhere on the field. And I think the forty Niners if they're looking at a match up that they can exploit whereas Becher might say, okay. We're going to be able to sort of scare this rookie effective rookie, obviously, not a rookie. But more more or less. Nick Mones is a rookie a new player getting on the field facing a blitz and facing some pressure to try and throw him off his game, the forty Niners going to be able to counter that by going directly at the New York Giants inside linebackers, and what's interesting about Molins game against the raiders is that he really had. Success on in the middle of the field. He didn't really have a ton of throws out on the edges and the when you look at his throws on the edge of specifically in the intermediate areas so ten to nineteen yards outside the numbers. He didn't complete a pass he was offered to to the left side and over two on the right side. A lot of his damage was done in the short area of the field or in the middle of the field. And that's where I think if I were Becher I would probably force Mullins to the edges to the outside, especially if you're going to test his arm. I mean, there was a play that was incomplete that Mullins through in the in the raiders game. Where I mean, it was probably a little too far inside. It looked like it just didn't have enough zip to get out there to the outside shoulder for the wide receiver. And if I'm a defensive back, I'm licking my chops. Because if you throw if you try to throw in outside route, and the only place you can't throw that ball is inside if you're gonna miss miss out wide, and it was a little on the inside. So if I'm better, I'm gonna force them or I'm going to try to. Force Mullins into the throwing an uncomfortable spaces, and that's going to be near the edges on the outside. And I'm probably going to pack as many damn defenders as I can in the middle of possible. Because if Nick Mullins is going to find success against the giants, that's where he's gonna wanna find it. And so I'm I expect we'd see a lot of cover one a lot of cover one robber. And just basically taking away the middle forcing throws on the outside. And then probably bring in some pressure that hopefully Molins hasn't seen before. Nick Mullins for as impressive as he was on Thursday night. He's going to you know, you got tape in the league now, and nobody can adjust or catch up faster than NFL coaches will for the most part, obviously, there's still some boneheads out there doing things that make absolutely no sense. But you'd like to think that if you're in the NFL coaching you've got legit taped on Nick Mullins. Now, the giants certainly know exactly what they can expect from Nick Mullins. I think from a talent standpoint as you mentioned that throw that you're talking about just I think they even said it on TV broadcasts as well. In the moment, he could tell he just didn't have the arm strength at least on that individual throw in. It's a hard throw. That's why at the Columbine every every quarterback that shows up to the Columbine. They asked him to throw that deep out route because they wanna see if you know from one hash can you throw fifteen yards on a rope to the to the opposite side line. It's difficult throw. But the elite quarterbacks make it and the not elite quarterbacks don't in the one place. You can't leave it as you mentioned is inside. Nick Mullins kinda got away with one last week against the bad raiders defense. But now that it's been shown the New York Giants are obviously seeing that ain't gonna force a lot of those those receivers into the middle of the field and say go ahead, you know, or excuse me. Try try to keep those receivers from out of the inside of the field. Put defenders in the middle of the field and say if you're going to beat us you're gonna make throws outside with the hashes you need to make them down the field. And we're going to force you to continue to show us that you can do this. Because right now, it's too early to say if he legit Ken. Can the Niners really continue any of the defense of success against the giants? This is of course, a giants team that drafted a generational talent and saquon Barkley, of course, a running back that has helped them win. So many games wins above replacement are of course, the preeminent running back stat. And you can put at least what like six wins on saquon Barkley shoulders. That's that's how this works. Is. That is that what's happening. That's exactly how it works. Yep. Yeah. So basically, you've got the all jokes aside. The giants do have talent on offense. It's not at the quarterback position. But it is that the wide receiver position. And while I disagree with dropping someone like Barkley that high overall. He is still a talented running back. Do you think that the giants are going to have more success in the raiders on offense? And to do you think that the Niners defense will be able to hold that offense at bay enough to be able to kind of give Mullen some breathing room in order to give him, you know, kind of some. Some space to actually not play behind them scoreboard for so long. I think the giants will definitely find more success from the raiders in. That's just from a superstar perspective saquon Barkley generational talent Oto Beckham junior. When on his game is elite Evan anger him. The giants tight end is actually a solid receiving tight end in the second year in the league still kind of improving, but overall there are some more pieces there, I think if ectively the that the New York Giants can exploit I do at the same time think that Nick Mullins starts. Fortunately are coming at the same time that the forty Niners of playing bad opponents, and that includes offensively bad opponents. The New York Giants still are putting ally manning under center, and he's well past his prime doesn't look particularly good. And so I think this is a week with the forty Niners might be able to keep things going and really keep rolling. I don't know that it's going to be to the same sort of points. You know, keeping the point total as low as they did against the raiders. But if ectively being able to manage a game where Nick. Joins can continue to find some success. I don't know that the forty Niners at the same time. We're gonna go put up mid thirties again. But if they could put up three or four touchdowns, I think that's enough with a giants offense that has some explosive playmakers, but in totality really lacks the overall sort of affective Nessin, I think some of that comes from the the head coach lacks the overall effectiveness to legitimately compete long-term. And that's why the giants as well. As sort of in this loser's bracket for a top pick here. I think the forty Niners can continue their success Robert Sala over the last few weeks is really made an impressive of adjustment. At least what appears to be sort of overall what he's doing in terms of getting this forty Niners defense back on track. And it'd be nice to see them keep this going. Yeah. You know? I if I'm the giants I think I've got to go with a pass heavy run script because if the Niners do something. Well, it is played the run pretty well. I've got a ton of run defenders along the defensive line between Armstead Buckner Solomon Thomas in the run game. That's where he shines. Even if it's not as a pass rusher. And Fred Warner, of course is playing well as well. So I didn't go over all if the giants come out and try to run saquon Barkley down our throats. I think that's a mistake. I think where the giants have a marked advantage is in the passing game. That's what Odal Beckham junior. And if I were the giants I wouldn't line Odell Beckham out on the right side of the offense left side of the defense because the Niners don't rotate their corners. They don't have feel boundary corners or anything like that. They basically put Sherman out on the left side of the defense. And then they put Witherspoon or whomever solids rotating defensive back over on the other side. And so I think that if I'm the giants I'm moving back him around. I'm putting him in the slot. Matching them up against Witherspoon, and I'm targeting Beckham or Ingram over and over and over again, and I'm utilizing Barkley in the passing game whether or not the giants will do that. I have no idea. But I think that's where you attack the Niners is whether weakest I mean, you've got typhus Powell playing at safety due to injury. And he's just not good. He's not good. And so it would be surprising to me if giants came out and tried to run this kind of run heavy script because they really should be passing against the Niners. As all as all teams should at this point. They really should Titus pal. Another player that played good last week. His continued improvement is going to be important as you mentioned against a giants team with some explosive playmakers. That's that's the weekly too weak link to exploit absolutely. All right. So give me a matchup that you'll be watching this week as as you watch the Niners play the giants here. And maybe again, it's a win win game. If we win. Hey, we won fantastic. Let's be happy. And if we lose hey, better draft position. Right. So it's a win win game either way. But the game within the game who's the player that you're going to be watching in the Niners versus giants. I'm looking at Mike mcglinchey, and whether he can continue to play as well as he has of late to continue to be, you know, quietly he's not going to win. But in terms of overall play he's offense rookie of the year. Caliber his play thus far he'll be a more than likely going against BJ hill, the New York Giants rookie defensive tackle that they selected in the third round of APRIL's draft. Who's a good player? Played at NC state with Bradley Chubb and contagious street who the forty Niners a selected as well in the draft. But when he was coming out, he's got a great frame big powerful body, and has some weight room numbers that are pretty damn in. Passive, but on film, really lacked. The ability to anchor against the run where Mike mcglinchey shows the athleticism empowered at continually do that. Well, and if he can continue to do that this week, I think the forty nine or seven markedly have a really a really impressive advantage there. In terms of some of the the zone stuff that cow Shanahan can do where he can get Mike mcglinchey in George Kittle working on sort of those trae blocks where they then climb to linebackers. We already mentioned that the linebackers are week that sort of combo block. I think you're gonna see some really impressive movement at the point of tack of Mike mcglinchey comes with his best stuff. I don't know if Landon Collins is going to guard, George kiddle, but if he does and he lines up over George Kittle. That's definitely something. I'll be watching just to see kind of the sparks fly in that matchup. But I think for me honestly, and I've talked about it a little bit already. I'm gonna watch Odal Beckham against anyone because I think that Odell Beckham is going to be a true test for Witherspoon. And Sherman, and we'll be able to get a bit more about Sherman as well. As learn where Witherspoon is at in terms of his development because I think that Sherman right now is in this area where everyone thinks he's phenomenal. And he's playing it in above average level, but he's not playing lightsout shutdown corner. It's just that he's the best corner we have and why would you continue to attack Richard Sherman? When you've got easy pickings on the other side when you've got Greg me been Ocala Witherspoon, who's not been playing great. You know, why why going up against any path resistance when you can go the path of least resistance, and so that's why sherman's coverage great. I think is not nearly as high as his kind of coverage snaps per reception allowed that that's I think what explains that discrepancy. And I think that sherman's our best corner Yassin. So I'd love to see how he matches up against Oto Beckham. Because I think at that point it's kind of old savvy vet verses re like one of the top three receivers in the league. But I also would really like to see Beckham junior against Witherspoon to see how Witherspoon. Talent shines. He whether he can hang with one of the best receivers in the NFL. And so that's that's probably what I'll be watching. And then I'll, of course, be just on generational talent watch, and I'll be comparing Barclay versus Brita to see how those two players end up. But that's probably what all be watching most in this game saquon Barkley, obviously physically. Absolutely unbelievable. What he's brought to the New York. Giants offense in year. One is really impressive. But as you just noted the dichotomy between his plan. Matt Breda is going to be really exciting to watch because you know, from an evaluation standpoint taking a running back in the top five is is one of the more. I think hotly contested questions. Some that believe that's absolutely worth it. Some that believe it's not worth it at all, regardless of talent seeing those to sort of, you know, in the same game and being able to evaluate, you know, obviously, not against one another. They're not meeting each other in the hole, the see who's tougher Oklahoma driller or anything like that. But. To see them play. And to note, you know, undrafted verse top three overall pick the gonna be exciting to see. All right. So let's get to the predictions. What do you think's going to happen? I'm trying to find the line here. I think the line is favored by three by three at home, which makes makes sense neutral site is essentially a pick em game. I think the forty Niners could could see continued success. I will say in terms of cautionary tale. Nick Mullins is fun is Thursday night. Was I do still have concerns? I am still curious to see what the forty Niners can get out of him a second week and with extended film on tape for defensive coordinator to look at the giants as we mentioned have some really explosive playmakers at some critical positions on offense. I think it comes down to who makes more mistakes at the quarterback position. Obviously ally. Manning has the sort of the veteran nod, but is not playing particularly well hasn't in a couple of years doesn't have the armed talent that he that he used to have an if the forty Niners defense can take advantage of that. I think they're going to be in a good position a win right now. I think I'll take the forty Niners. And I think I'll take them to cover this spread. But just barely and I'm not terribly confident in that. You know, I mean at this point of the season. I think we're all confident about anything when it comes to this team. Yeah. Other than the fact that we're confident they're going to have a top five pick. I do think that this is probably going to be a close game. I do think that that three point spreads probably right about where it will land. But hey, man, I'm gonna ride Mullins mania, and I'm going to say the Niners win, and I'm going to say they wouldn't by four. So they cover even though they probably will end up winning by three and pushing. But while we're on the hormones mania thing. Just one plea to Niners fans everywhere. Number one, come up with some original nicknames. Please like this is why we went with the Mullins mania because I feel like that's kind of original it makes sense. Like, it's an illiterate in. Yeah. We love it. But everyone was out there saying like, you know, big dick like that. That's already been tried. It's already been done that was Nick foles Super Bowl chanted that in parade. Like, let's let's be original fans. Don't take the eagles nickname just because it happens to have the same. First name have a little self respect come up with your own damn nicknames. And let's be better than that. I would I would agree. And and I think, you know, from some of the stories, I was reading. The Philadelphia locker room Nick foles earned that nickname. If you understand what I'm saying. And and I'm not sure that Nick Mullins house yet. And I'm not asking for him to prove it. But I am saying that there we do have standards around here. And then matched the performance. I was not expecting you to have like deep knowledge about like, you know, other teams penis. Just man the. Are you shine? We talk about context in terms of evaluation, and you know, in terms of setting the tone for leadership. I don't know. What comes you know? I don't know comes comes with any more pressure than that. My goodness. All right. So I haven't tweeted out any of the plays that we've talked about yet because it's well, it's election night. And it's a it's a short week for us too. So I'll probably through those out either today or tomorrow, but you can catch the game clips including most of the players that we've talked about on the show on Twitter at better rivals. And then once I do then, you know, that's where you'll have to find him. If you're not on Twitter, then I'm sorry. I I don't know how to help you because I'm old, and I'm lazy. But Jared where can they find you? You can find me on Twitter at Jared. Brown underscore. That's J E R OD Brown underscore either. Re tweeting your tweets, which is typically what I do. But then go I go. Here's here's that play when he talked about. But yeah. Fi find it there in we'll highlight some of this does good stuff that we've seen. Absolutely. And then obviously have some because it's kind of a weird week, right? Because we don't play until till Monday. So there's a bit of a gap. But over the next couple of days, I'm going to probably post the bonus episode with PF George Shahuri where we talk a little bit about the kind of coaching how you measure coaching success now, and whether or not you should care whether or not or whether or not caution handed good coach, so keep your eyes peeled for some of that bonus content. But thanksgiving tuning in enjoy the one Wednesday. Hopefully, y'all have voted and as always go Niners. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from SP nation. And I want to tell you about my new show. It seemed smart it seems smart as a show about people doing things that for some reason or another same smart at the time. Those things might include doing a little cocaine and driving a bike up a mountain or I don't know maybe racing one hundred miles per hour across the country in the middle of the night with no one's permission or even stealing a bat from an empire is room in a major league baseball park, check it out. 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REShow: Nick Mullens. Hour 1 (11-02-18)

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REShow: Nick Mullens. Hour 1 (11-02-18)

"Rich Eisen on demand. Your show your schedule. Fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. Introducing the amazing iphone tenants, you'll love on T mobile but most loved and wires. It's the perfect way to stay connected to those you heart most in low with on T mobile right now trading and eligible iphone and you'll save three hundred dollars. Visit a store or call one eight hundred team. Service remaining balances deal while thank service and finance agreements required to seventy nine ninety nine doubtless thirty per month. Twenty four full price ninety nine ninety nine zero percents APR for well-qualified buyers plus tax on price allow eight weeks for rebate. Okay. Welcome to this Friday edition of the rich Eisen show where I had no idea. I would be starting to show talking about a guy. Came into yesterday's game of the San Francisco forty Niners with nobody knowing who he was unless you're a fan of southern miss football. Right. I mean, this is why we watch sports folks, we watch sports because we love watching good people or seemingly good people. Do good things when we least expected and Nick Mullins everybody is the star of the moment. Yeah. No idea yet. No four hours ago. We'd never even heard of the and and you the only way to put it ease is the coaching job and this kid together the Shanahan get him coached up in three and a half days for the Oakland Raiders on Thursday night football, and Nick Mullins, haven't whatever beats his chest allow him to be calm in the face of that pressure. Is unbelievable. You don't see this every day. It's unbelievable. There's a reason why short weeks are killers for young players who are forced into action and last night. Mcmullan's was unbelievable and the three touchdown passes that he threw last night matches the season total of touchdown passes for the entire Buffalo Bills. Team fact fact, and he was sixteen to twenty two to sixty two three touchdowns knew where to go with the ball zinged it with confidence had wide open receivers. I understand he had a guy George Kibble made a remarkable play over the middle. But of great bullet that found they one small window, which Kittle could grab it with his left hand corral with his right? And then go right down the field to kick off a second half after. I'm sure paint got. Off the raiders walls get to that in a second. This why we watch sports, and and if you wanna root for feel good story, right? And you want to root for somebody? That spends their entire lives waiting for moments. Like that. I mean, I've got small kids who play in the backyard and call their own play by play action with their high pitch voices. That's what Nick Mullins had last night. Hey, Thursday night football the entire countries. Pulling up a chair. And he bawled out making the most of an opportunity and in terms of whether he deserved it. All you need to see the ways teammates reacted. That was a pleasure. That was an absolute pleasure. From the way that his teammates rallied around him and celebrated with him and tapped him on the helmet tapped him on the shoulders calling wolf who hosts Thursday night football coverage pre and post game for the NFL network turned around from her seat and snap. The photograph of George Kibble. Watching him go to the NFL network set. George wasn't invited on the set. Some guys would be like, hey, I just got one hundred yards touchdown. Touchdown on national television. How come I can't come or how come out up there with him? Instead he showed up in his uniform watched him and cheer Nick Mullins on as he got his moment in the NFL network post game son where Brett farve whose record some of which he broke at southern miss called into congratulate him. I mean, I'm getting the old goosebumps. This is why we watch love sports. Then there's the Oakland Raiders. Oh my goodness. You know, we have storylines going NFL seasons any any big major sports season. Anyway, but the NFL more than anything else is a narrative generating machine is, you know, I like to say here on the show, and it's an era of generating machine and you've got season long storyline arcs and you've got game day storyline headlines. Nick Mullins is the game day storyline. Headline week nine kid. You never really heard of unless you're southern miss van or your from the Mullins household comes out balls out shines up. And now, I think has an opportunity keep starting for the forty Niners and his and his Albert breer pointed out from. On twitter. What happens if he balls out the rest of the year what of the forty Niners? Do my responses. You train them to the patriots to succeed Brady and complete the football circle of life. That's what you do. Did you enjoy seeing the patriots Brady successor dice up the raiders last night? Chris. I loved it. I loved it by the way away from my Mohan's, four jersey, Dr is born at any rate. That's the nightly. Game story headline season long arc is stuff. Like this. Jon Gruden comes out of the Monday night football, both ten year hundred million dollar contract for his raiders two point. Oh tenure. How's he going to do? What's it gonna look like? Dean anybody at the time of him out of the Monday night football booth and taking that job think. That the arc would look like him. Not conversing with Khalil Mack all offseason to the point where they trade him. On the eve of the season. Causing his quarterback in Derek Carr. And. Khalil Mack linemate Bruce Irvin to tweet out the different equivalent of WTI f. But both guys after tweeting out what happened send out the tweets of. We're we're going to keep winning with the guys we have in our locker room. I mean, which is the the usual thing you hear from players after they got very upset that they've lost their teammate. But we're going to try our best to win with the guys we have here, we think we can win with the guys we have here only problem with that is if you believe your coaches quit on your by sending away the best player that is in your locker room after not conversing with this best player to try and bridge any gap, and he just parachutes in with a contract that is worth more, and is definitely guaranteed more than anybody else's. That's in that locker room. If you start losing that's a recipe for disaster. But who thought that that would happen and then nine weeks later on national television, the team would essentially, and there's no other way to describe this. And this is very very infused language to use in the sports word. The keyword quit. Nine weeks teams quit on them. I mean the way that they blocked for car the way that they tackled on defense. Nick Mullins turned the raiders into the Washington generals last night. He was the globetrotter. So it's really remarkable. How the raiders have absolutely collapsed. And you sit back and have to wonder Gruden see this coming is this sort of Kaiser's so's aim maneuver that he looked around. He took the job thinking, I gotta blow this up. But I got one hundred million in the Bank had ten years to blow it up. I'm gonna make it in my own face and voice the del Rio stuff. Everything's gone. I kind of like the quarterback. I know I've got to keep them because I got that contract on a blow the rest of it up. And you're seeing the results of it. Or that doesn't really square at the fact that they handed out fifty five million dollars in veteran contracts. Fifty five million veteran contracts. That sounds like a team that's trying to win now too. Can't have it both ways. But guess what? The plan is now tank like there's no tomorrow got. Because guess what they need. They need to pass rusher. Nick Bose's out there. They need a wide receiver. What do you think Jordy Nelson thinking about right now is Aaron Rodgers and get set with the Packers to take on Tom Brady on Sunday night football thinks it Aaron Rodgers needs them. I mean, it's it's it's totally done and Gruden is doing his best PR Pt. Barnum post game is what he had to say it kind of rings a little bit hollow. Just try to get people excited about the the Oakland Raiders. The Oakland Raiders is a great organization. I know it's not looking pretty right now. But I've heard a lot of negativity over the last six or seven months, and rightfully so we're going to build a championship football team here. And I know a lot of people as players as fans, and, you know, just in general want to be part of this. And the only coach who Gruden has beaten this year went on. I take today Jackson. After speaking of Mary Kay, Cabot Cleveland dot com. And boy did he picked the wrong time to come out and talk about how he didn't have the right players, and he didn't have the ability to run his scheme. When Nick Mullins goes out and carves up the Oakland Raiders on Thursday night football. Yes. Shanahan has the players through John Lynch that he wants and he can run his scheme. But Nick Mullins got plugged in to a program and lit up the raiders. Wrong time for Hugh to basically come out and say, I didn't have the right people. What a week. This has been Cleveland starts it on Monday. By going out and fire and Hugh Jackson and the offense coordinator and Todd Haley. We see Tom Brady beak the Buffalo Bills for the twenty nine twenty nine time. In which Derek Anderson throws a pick six. To keep the Buffalo Bills passing. Touchdown total at three which is matched by Nick Mullins on Thursday night football. In front of the whole country to see when men you Jackson appears in Cleveland dot com. Mary Kay at to say, I couldn't win with the players that I was forced to have. Now comes today on first take Hugh Jackson and the day that Nick Mullins calls into the rich Eisen show. And now he's calling in and eighteen minutes. Right. And the gentleman who we booked before kick-off less. With the one Niners in the one win raiders getting set to face off on Thursday night football. I said the four words that needed to be said in our meeting and those for words were bring me Ray rattle. Way raise getting bumped raise going to be an hour number two. Okay. Raise kind enough to have moved off of his mid first hour slot to kick off the second hour because neck Mollins is calling. It something else. We didn't see coming yesterday. Daniel Jeremiah who calls radio broadcasts for the Los Angeles. Chargers were coming back off there by taking on the suddenly resurgent red hot Seattle Seahawks in week number nine. He will be calling into the show, and he has his plugged into the scouting community as anybody. I am wondering what the scouting community thinks of what we saw from the raiders last night and what the raiders plan out with three first round selections is going to be. So maybe to Bose's will live in the American Football Conference western division by the end of next year's first night of the draft. We shall see. And by the way, something that we definitely knew on Monday. That was going to happen on Friday is Dion Sanders who sat in for me on Monday stayed after class to interview Academy Award winning actor Morgan Freeman here in studio, and we knew we were going to play it on Friday show and Friday show is a ride prime and Morgan Freeman. All I can say is. You're welcome. That's what the rich Eisen show can do high Steffan with Morgan Freeman. What's our poll question over there? Christopher okay. So we have a great slate of college and NFL games this weekend. We do easy to say, which is the best. But which will be the most competitive, which of these games will be the most competitive games. So we got Alabama LSU and Penn State Michigan on the college side as NFL ram saints. Packers patriots most competitive game of the week. That's what a great slate. What a great slate. So you are just absolutely overlooking. The chiefs and Browns is what you're saying. I am over do nonsense. Not look past crazy. Greg williams. Nutty, Freddie kitchens. And the new running back coach Ryan Lindley with seven career rushing yards from the quarterback position. Do not overlook that sir. And Hugh Jackson going. Going on. I take four days after getting fired providing kindling for the ESPN hot take machine all day long. Oh, you gotta put Georgia Kentucky there, by the way. Six versus nine put it in there. I mean, I understood verses. Verses nine you got to. It's got to do. It's a top ten football game in college football involving the southeastern conference all due respect to Kentucky. Anyone their top ten? Excuse me. Excuse me. I understand that. You're suddenly Georgia fan. Oh, no. No, nothing. Okay. But don't you understand that the for the SEC? It just means more come on. That's that my last night last night. Now it was a game. Nick Mullins made it a game. It is welcome to Thursday night. Football friends at FOX it happens that should be by the way, the new phrase for Thursday night football for it happens. All right. Let's take a break. Set the stage for Nick Mullins people. What a good kid. This guy seems to be. I can't wait to chat with him. After his big night. That's still to come here on the rich Eisen show. Hey, guys jockey, Kate here with the big match keel O'neil talking about our friends at that online dot AG NBA's underway and the excitement in full effect. 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Ted Robinson right doing the games for the forty Niners right there. What a what a night for Nick Mullins? What an for Nick melons is calling in about eight minutes time here on the show. I got stats ready for stats. I wanna hear them. I mean, I got stats you'll what happened last. I've got stats. Current jen. Gen you never thought existed in the old gen let's start with a car agenda. Jen, jen. Nick Mullins became his second quarterback since two thousand throw a touchdown pass on each of his team's first two possessions in his NFL debut. Marcus mariota. Oh, remember that. He he tortured the buccaneers and James Winston in the first game for each and then D finish the game because he was up so much. That's that's current gen right? Okay. Here's genuine think existed. Mullins completed passes to eight different players in the first half. Most by player in his NFL debut since nineteen Ninety-one tying gusts for what? 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Mullins is one of three players in the Super Bowl era with two hundred and fifty or more passing yards three or more passing touchdowns and zero interceptions in his NFL debut. The others are hall of famers, Jim Kelly in France, tarkenton, and Nick Mullins. This is awesome. And again, I can't express it more. Having watched football. We can week out as I had, you know, obviously from my whole life and then doing it professionally for the NFL network since three celebrating your fifteen on Sunday. Exactly. Okay. When you see teammates react to first timers succeeding with sheer joy. And excitement. You know, they're great teammate and good people and the way that his teammates reacted last night. Just shows it. And I'll be honest with you. I don't even know. I mean, he was undrafted in two thousand seventeen and I don't even know he was backing up. C J Beth third. I had no idea. None. And he's the first forty-nine of quarterback to win his first career start since Jim Harbaugh turn to Colin Kaepernick and week ten of the two thousand twelve season. For Alex Smith, and we all know what happened there as well. Eight four four zero four rich is the number to dial. And we're waiting on Nick Mullins. He's calling in in in a matter of moments here on the show as for the Oakland Raiders as well. The the soundbite coming into the game was Gruden talking about how talking with how long about raiders players telling him how much they wanted to play for the raiders and random people calling him. Okay. Exiting him. And that was a soundbite FOX put out there in advance of the game. Right. So of course, Gruden was asked you have that sound bite number one of Jon Gruden please Gruden was asked after the game. What you mean by that? Because if players are calling him to say, I want to come to the raiders his answer has to be by law of the NFL if they're under contract with another team. I can't talk to you about that. That must be his answer because that's called tampering. If he says anything, but let's not let's not go there this what brunettes after I see players after every game we play in a wanna be raiders that's been the case. My whole life. I think the brand of the raiders is an exciting one. And I think a lot of players no doubt do wanna play for us in the future. And I'm not gonna speculate any further than that. I'm not gonna get into calls me. Text me. I've made a lot of friends in this business over the years. Yeah. I mean, it's gotta shut. He's gotta shut it down. Right there. And and stuff like that. That's where you think Gruden. Needed to get back into coaching a little bit sooner. Or he he's been out of too long. Because that's simple. I mean, you can't sit there and tell how long no matter how you're mixing it up, and you you've worn a microphone for ten years. And you're not talking as a coach anymore. You're talking as a fired coach, you know, his football fired football coaches association of America that he had for he sent us hats and me sent us visors. And what have you? When you're talking a member of the F FCA, you could say whatever you want. But when you were an actual head coach in the NFL, you can't look at how long and say bunch of players telling us that they wanna come year is as your way to try and fire up your base can't do that. And in terms of Gruden forgetting how to coach he hasn't an and the thing I thought that would definitely work for him coming in to his second tenure is that fired football coaches association. He's been on the show. He was on the show several times as a member of ESPN, and he would call us from his bunker, which for years he built in the back of Publix in a strip mall in Tampa. That was his office right where and then he would build it. I think he built it up into its own sort of like coaching man cave where coaches from around the country would comment, and they talk. They come in. And they talk about all different offenses that's going down in different innovations. And he would have that ready to go for his first year. But the league is changed a lot in ten years knows the difference between being in a booth and watching tape and being out there living it breathing it on the sideline everyday. Well, certainly, certainly. When you have a situation like Khalil Mack. And the way it went down and was handled. That they needed to get off to a fast start. Not stumble out of the gate. And then lose players to due to injury, and then trade Amari Cooper away and sent everybody out there. What amazing performance by Nick Balans out of southern miss. The man of the hour kind enough to call into the rich Eisen show the day after his big debut on Thursday night football, Nick Mullins. It is a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for calling in. You bet. So how're you doing? Well, look up and it's been in the morning my wife. Okay. So what what was it like for you? When did you first learn that you were starting that game last night? Nick. The really the day before the game wasn't exactly sure how it was going to go up through the week. I was preparing to start. But I didn't know and then before the game. I learn I was starting and just had to go do it. So you got an inkling of the possibility on Wednesday, but truly did not know you're going to start until what ninety minutes before for real. No probably a little bit before that. But I was just whenever I was told. Okay. So you're told and then you go out, and what what did you tell yourself as you trotted out on the field for the first time, and it was a nationally televised game in a big bay area. Rivalry yet. I think the biggest thing was just focused focus on what matters and one thing that is how we played on the field. And so that's just what I kept telling myself all game long. And I thought we did a great job. Stan focus all game wall and worked and how did Shanahan coach you up throughout the process, Nick what was that coach quarterback relationship like? He was very, you know, he, obviously. He really didn't change the playbook to be honest. I thought that was cool thing. No. He let me go commend offense. A lot of freedom. Let me make good decisions and put me in good positions to succeed. So he definitely call. It a great game. Let me have success when you say give you freedom. What what sort of freedom you talking about? Didn't alter the playbook, and I was very appreciative of that. You know, he he had competent I knew the system inaugurated upper, and I was so I definitely appreciate him. Believing me did you check out of play. Did you did you go a little Omaha on 'em last night on nothing? Nothing too. Crazy. Got the play run the play. And then you were successful more more often than not what was your phone like when you got back to it last night. It was it was pretty crowded for sure I've lot of people back home the support me. And so that was pretty cool to see. I haven't gone all the way through yet. And I don't know if I will. But definitely appreciate with all the support that I've got the whole forty nine hundred nations got these past twenty four hours. So what was the number of texts? Was the number. Five hundred come on. Oh, five you had five hundred techs on your phone when you got back to it after Thursday night football. Wow. You're popular guy. Nick mullins. You are a pop guy. Yes. I guess so fantastic. Okay. I noticed that you got emotional with our Andrews afterwards. What we what was going through your temples when you were talking post game last night on file it really just I was we got the win. It's everything that we worked for the seasons been grind so far. And so just the way we work to get this win a big moment for thirteen. So it's just really excited. We got the win. But nothing personal about whatever journey you've taken that struck me as as much as a team person that you clearly are your teammates reaction to your success shows that. But nothing personal was going through your mind as you realized you threw three touchdowns in a big victory for the forty Niners on national television. I think the biggest personal thing for me was just the fact that I got into the forty Niners wanted to lend the system as much as I could and had plenty of time to do that on the practice squad and things like that. And so it's just a matter of time for got my opportunity, and that's what I kept thinking after the game. Nick Mullins here on the rich Eisen show after throwing for three touchdowns in his NFL debut, passer rating, just a little shy of a buck fifty two right here on the rich Eisen show. What what was your draft day like, Nick? Jeff day all the forty Niners from my only treat pre- visit. I thought that I would get an opportunity Minnesota. But I didn't know how long it was last. It would last and it was just kind of all Amita see how far could go. So had a couple small free agents offers but the forty Niners like me from the start and have the most respect for them for finding me and liking the most. And so they gave me a call six around. And then I just kind of do I was going to sign with them. So did you think that you might get a call from the forty Niners on draft day? I'm just wondering what it was like for you to to have that experience. Yeah. I think my expectations were signs a free agent. And if I got drafted with the really cool surprise, you know, so just had to have some what realistic expectations. I guess you would say, and but I was just thankful for any opportunity. I could get and so. So what's your relationship like with far who called in last night? That was a neat moment as well. On the NFL network. I think I bet you're mariuchi hook that one up being on the set. What was that like? Yeah. Those are pretty cool. Pretty cool moment. You know? He's obviously a southern this alone too. And we do a good job of keeping until a chin just uh supporting the golden eagle fan when we can he came around a couple times a year in college. And so it was always cool to hear stories and Lin from him. And just appreciate his listen is that why you wear for number four. Not really to be honest. I was number one a preseason. And they had a couple of numbers and four was just the best option. And it was just a coincidence that four and four, but yeah, it's coincidence. I'm very glad that your your first game. Experience was not farve. Like, are you you're aware? What his first pass attempt was like in the National Football League. Right. Nick. Believe so it was a pick six and do, you know, do, you know, completing the farve trivia portion of our interview here the first person he completed a pass to in his career. Do you know who that person is? Do not himself. It was tapped back to him. Unbelievable. I yeah. Isn't it though? But I'll tell you what not nearly as impressive as three touchdowns. I mean is this is this the stuff of dreams, I'm serious like, I know the answer to it. But I'm wondering if this is the stuff that you dreamt about. Trying to get to the NFL in your journey. Nick, it is because I never knew health farm opportunity would go so four to come to this. It's been pretty cool. But it's obviously only one game at the same time. So it was a big time win. Yeah. You could say the dreams came true. But there's a lot more stuff that I'd like for the seam to accomplish. And what does it what did it feel for you? I know what it felt like for me to watch it Nick your teammates reacting to your success. That's why you play the game. I said that after the game to celebrate with your teammates. You know, we all played great offense defense special teams. We had very little penalties no turnovers and just played a great collective team win. And that's what I was most proud of after the game is we play like that. And it's gonna lead to a lot more win. So that was pretty cool to see. Okay. So what's the rest of your Friday looking like Nick Mullins after your big your big win? I know you're saying you're you're there with your wife. Right. You'd have kids yet. Right. No, sir. I don't I don't want to rush it yet. Okay. Good. I did hear a dog in the background. Oh, you did. Sorry. Don't Nick you have no idea what we've heard in the background here in the in the history of the show. What what what dog? Do you have? Bred golden doodle. Okay. Read golden doodle. Is it named farve is did you name the, no, sir? What's your dog name? My dog names scalp scout. Your wife named the dog Nick she did. You got. Yeah. Scope, brockman. That's great line. You said it might say it yourself, Nick, you're gonna have to change it to start. Now. Now that you're the starter scout team starter. Name it's darter. And a you wear that you've got verified on Twitter during your performance, Nick. Yes, sir. That's what they notified. We went to the game. Okay. Well, you certainly are blue checkmark verified in the National Football League after last night. Nick, thanks for calling in. I know again, like I said it's just one game, and you hope to have many more like that. But it was just amazing to to witness. And I honestly did not know what to expect from you. And you exceeded it. So congratulations on that. Well, thank you bet. You bet. So you're gonna go out to lunch dinner what he got on Friday. Now, what do you got now? Yeah. Probably so just grab some lunch and head up to silly at some point and just go along with the weekend. Okay. Go for maybe. We'll see out there. Next sunday. We'll check it out America deal. Thanks. Thanks for calling in. That's Nick Mones at Nick Mullins on Twitter. How many followers does he have currently at twenty seven point six thousand do we know what he was lying. I don't know that off hand. Got blue verified by great line. Dog's name is scout got an image starter. You're like Costanza spotting. Dinesh today is Friday. I'm feeling scout. Got along. Does this guy have any idea? His life is now changed forever. It doesn't sound like it. Well, I mean, look as you know. Moments. Like that are are y we watch sports on. Okay. And I know raider fans are like come on. They're all in there is right now maybe hearing that 'cause they're very prideful bunch right now. They're very angry punch right now there are down budge. And there's a lot of people who watch sports, and there are a lot of cynics out there like come on. It was the raiders. But it's a you just heard he learned got an inkling Tuesday. He would be starting found out like that Thursday was the time he found out. He was starting right and. He goes out and beats the raiders at still a professional team of prideful men, despite the fact that we saw performance the Dion called garbage, and you can understand why. But. Careers can be made off of this. Or it could be one of those. You know, everybody's all American moments where aren't combine car from Mullen Chevrolet in about thirty years from now, and there's a photo on the wall of the one game show or Matt Flynn situation. This kid seem to have a great head on his shoulder. Yeah. He had zip on a ball. I mean in that Shannon offense is it's not vanilla. I mean that offenses known league-wide for its ingenuity in innovative style. And if he had no limitations on that. Then clearly neck up this kid's ready to roll. And. Do you see what is dimensions are? Looked like he was stacked. He's six five. Yeah. So there's some there there. That's not great someone posted on Twitter. How many times have the Shanahan's had a quarterback ro bootleg for for touchdown party six one six one I gave them for extra inches, but he's he's looks like a real deal Queen now looks like this now for him. He is going to look great in the patriot blue. It's gonna be great mad. When Lynch flips and back at TJ slipped me this. He had about seven thousand followers before the game. There you go. Good for Nick Mullins at Nick Mullins, fun. Having a chat with him Ray Ratto on that night as well. As what the Oakland Raiders are doing. 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Even if you're not a discover customers include your FICO credit score. And checking your scorecard one hurt your credit? Never does. Learn more discovered dot com slash credit scorecard. Limitations apply on NHL play the week. So Hugh Jackson just just hit it this. What he had to say on this. This is this is the first take today. This is I take I take morning today. And and crew asked him what regret in oh, there's a lot of things when I look back on that would be different. You know, hindsight is is always important. But as you know reality in life, you don't live in hindsight. So you have to handle it happening. But I think when I look back is first thing I would not have ever given away the offense. You know? That's what I got hired for you know, if you're gonna go out, you go out doing the things that you know, that you truly believe in. But again that was a tough spot. You know, when like I said when you wanna fifteen on sixteen. Gene. And you're in a situation where there's been a lot of losing already. I mean, it's tough to make those choices and decisions. Look guy at one of the worst records in the history of coaching. And he didn't forget how to coach. He really does. He really does know how to coach offense. He does. So he had no choice, but to give up the calling if there's a new general manager coming in saying guess what you're not doing the pike. Right. And he said the Todd Haley was his higher. I mean, everybody knew that that was how that gonna work to the most headstrong guys. I mean in the fifteen years that I've covered the sport and the NFL network. You wanna talk about headstrong guys? You got Todd Haley and terms of headstrong guys. Hugh jackson. We saw it on the first episode of hard knocks as happened. We saw playing out. That's why I said the hash limbs clearly don't have HBO. We all saw. Now, I also heard he loved Wentz to I heard that he loved Wentz. I heard that from the get-go he loved once. And I don't know if this is a mix of Sashi Brown and the Brown sane. We need more players. We're trading down and we're gonna play money ball. And we're gonna start doing all this stuff. I mean, they did eat a lot of players queue Jackson when Hugh Jackson came in. He was the choice of the Browns. I heard that there were other choices for him. I heard that they weren't other choices for him. I don't know what the real answer is. But if you believe that you have in any new you're gonna take a new head coaching job. Your like, look, you're hire me for a reason. I want that kid from from North Dakota state. That's what I want. Or I want Jared Goff. One of those two are taken. What else we can do here? Let's talk. You want me? That's the that's the guy. We're going to get. And either didn't do it or nobility to do it. And now with him coming out in all this stuff that he's saying maybe true. But saying four days after you're fired is definitely not. You're just gonna get lit up of anybody saying that you're saying it to try, and I'm not the reason why we went one and thirty one. Oh, and then he says I wanted to Shawn Watson. And I wanted Patrick Mahomes. Very convenient you want to three best rookie quarterbacks in the NFL. We got a chance at all three of them and got the Sean Kaiser. Who was a top prospect? He was heading into the draft. Certainly more of a top prospect in the guy threw three touchdowns on hardly any practice on Thursday night football that guy. Now, you can all sit covers bear whatever. You did have an all world hall of fame left tackle. What a mess really is. It really isn't in you have to look all the way to the top. You really do for that sort of mess. Greg williams. Saying what are you saying how he had? He had eleven different opportunities for head coaching jobs. Hugh Jackson going on. I take San I wanted every single quarterback who at the time. I was saying we didn't need. Right. But if he did have a guy in what Deepa Desta who said that there wasn't a top pick a franchise quarterback in the first round. And saw she Brown saying we're gonna get more picks. And you have an owner saying that's where we're going with. Than Hugh's been eaten. It. And I think he wants people are no he's been eating. It just does four days later. I would counsel him to go. Just go go to bore borough. Go see places the planet. You haven't seen go do it. Now, if you want to get back and coaching you're not gonna see it for a while. And he can coach offense. Doc next year. I'm sure. I mean nutty watching beat the chiefs. I mean, watch it happen. That would ruin a lot of survivor picks them guessing Ray Ratto joining us. I can't wait to hear what he thinks last night's performance by the Oakland, Raiders, all you have to do is just read his column today. 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Rob Mullens, Plus NFL Playoff Rankings | Dual Threat With Ryen Russillo (Ep. 11)

Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

54:28 min | 2 years ago

Rob Mullens, Plus NFL Playoff Rankings | Dual Threat With Ryen Russillo (Ep. 11)

"Yeah. What's up welcome to dual threat? I'm back in LA. Great do. Absolutely great about how four AM flight New Orleans. Excuse me for you. That's ridiculous woke up for him and six o'clock flight out of so used to connecting flights all these years in Hartford. I'm Ryan russillo. By the way, if you knew the podcast and do I was like, oh, wow. This is a direct flight goes trying to figure out what my seat in the connecting flight was and I was like I don't have to go with Lanta to go home this time. I don't have to go to Detroit Minneapolis, Salt Lake which would be weird. But every now, and then Hartford would say, hey, do you wanna go to Salt Lake before you go to Tampa? No. But this way, I got to roll in good to see you Kyle. We have a fun show for tonight's going to be back to all right cool. I'm I'm in a weird mood. I think two different injuries. I pulled a hamstring. Maybe lower ask muscle doing dips, which is I know almost impossible to do. And then I can't tell if I ripped a ton of rib cartilage or if I'm having. Just a weird heart day. So who knows how this? Yeah. Right. That's right set. Earlier is we'll see serious. This is we'll know when I wake up in the morning. So the the left glued asthma. So that's a weird injury on on the dip bar. I don't I don't even know how the hell that happened. But that's how I feel and we have I'm not even bummed out about it. Because how good today's podcasts going to be rob mullets. He's the AD at Oregon. I've known him awhile. He's been on the show. But now he is the committee chairman for the college football playoff rankings the rankings just dropped. And that's what we're doing with this podcast doing tonight after those. So you have a Tuesday night into Wednesday morning. I'm also going to in the spirit of the college football playoff rankings. Having mock committee of one discussion about the NFL teams in how I would rank them and the arguments for and against all them. And because I just got back from Baton Rouge into New Orleans. I did a Bama LSU Saturday night and Orleans and Los Angeles the saints Rams game Sunday afternoon. Tell you when you go to New Orleans knowing, hey, by the way, no matter what I'm not doing anything tonight. Like, I'm not going out not wanna meet up. I was blowing people off left and right. Like, yeah. I can't wait didn't work. No. I didn't. I just wouldn't do it. Okay. I just wouldn't do it. And the other thing I think is funny as I remember one time I was there. I was in New Orleans. You know, if you're in the bourbon street area, and this is the whole thing is if your of it, and you're from I love it down there. I love the surrounding areas I've gotten to know it a lot better. I just really love Louisiana. I just I just do. And I have like a greater finish for it. Every single time. I go down. Maybe maybe I'll be on Zillow tonight looking a property. I'm not sure, but I. Ver-very thing if that's all you, do then you're going to have this one perception of it. And that's what I did in the beginning. You know, that's what everybody does. But she your younger, you shoot any shoot out. And then eventually you start exploring a little bit more. But I'll never forget. One night we were out in New Orleans, burbs street area whole deal and. A bunch of dudes walk by and I don't know if it was a fraternity or what? But their whole thing was that they were just going to walk down the street with jeans on and no shirt, and they all had sweet like Zach Ephron bodies and some a little thicker than others as she said. But it was it was something I've never forgotten because I all I can think of is like what if you're the fifth guy and out of the five year, just not as f- Ronnie as the rest of the guys taking the Uber each of their. Yeah. Right. And then you just have to if the four guys are taking the shirts off you have to take your shirt off too. But you know behind your back. They're like Todd's coming like his body, kinda sucks. His oblique. He cheats, them all the time. His new any oblique Oric? And it's just, you know, he's kinda got like fat pack. You know, it's not a six pack. It's not that. But he thinks it is. And it's not as pets aren't even defined in the bottom half. And you know, whatever I mean, we do like fun. But. We're going to do more of these shirts off trips. We gotta stop inviting him. Okay. Speaking of fun, the Jessil Nick in Rosenthal vanity project that is comedian Anthony Jessil Nick and his best friend NFL analyst Gregg Rosenthal. They once had an NFL podcast called the Rosenthal unjustly vanity project that show ended. But hope remain that they would one day return. Great news. They're back now part of comedy central's podcast network. 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You know every other day, and you'll be you get a ton of dollars. Go vote. Go vote. All right. So here's the deal committee of one it. So it's not just hey, it's Kansas City. The pats. The Rams the saints. Although it might end up that way. How would we do the debate in a room and how he would see these? And what about the teams that maybe relieving out if we had a college football type discussion about the top NFL teams Kansas City. Well, they're eight and one. So that's pretty simple. Best win. Is that the chargers, and you have no idea how many times I wrote San Diego in my notes quite a bit still tired of doing it. Just polishing out loud. Even though I didn't need to. 'cause you didn't know that. I did that a million times in preparing for this podcast. But I did it. So this chargers team is actually really good. And I think they're sneaky slept on. So is that win against them in the beginning of the season better than the week to win at Pittsburgh. You know, they're both by well, let ten points against the charge. I actually think that when it gets charges better than the win against Pittsburgh. Because. Of where Pittsburgh was addict, Pittsburgh, turn a role little bit more now. So I think Pittsburgh's a different team than the beginning. Whereas I think the whole time the charges were just sort of good. And so while the figure things out kids city probably has the best loss of all the top teams their loss at New England forty three forty with that loss be better than the Rams loss at New Orleans where they tied it up. I mean final scores different. Yeah. I'm actually still going to go with Kansas City losing at New England night game. That's probably the best loss of any of these teams the best division. Okay. We'll wait a minute. Is it the AFC west? You know, how much the chargers talked about for a good forty five seconds Denver's actually played Kansas City. Tough twice. I still think if that was that Monday night or it was. Denver still gonna be kicking themselves Mahomes played out of his mind in that fourth quarter. That's when I knew it was real. I was not. Yeah. I was not one of those week two guys going Mahomes as a hall of Famer it takes it takes Cilla. Good five weeks of this stuff for me to buy all the way in their good. So, you know, the Broncos defense is good. That's the point charges might be the best number two team. As far as any divisions are concerned and Oakland's kind of Rutgers. But they haven't played him yet. So you can't even sit there and say, oh, well, they got Rutgers in there. By the way, showed up to Kansas, maybe thinking about Rutgers going for less miles. That'd be great. Will I become a huge Kansas football fan? Probably not but go less anyway Oakland yet. So they're Rutgers again, they haven't played them. Okay. What about their resume against playoff teams? Because that's kind of what the college football committee does against top twenty five teams wins for Kansas City. At look in the note. I wrote San Diego wins at the chargers at Pittsburgh a win against Cincinnati loss at New England so three and one against the current playoff teams. But the best point differential in the AFC. Okay. All right there. Plus one hundred one that's a ton. That's a lot. Okay. So how does that stack up against New England? Well, New England's got the head head, but they're seven and two. So their best win as we would mention just against the chiefs. They got a couple of bad dings on the old resume though. A loss at Jacksonville thirty one twenty now in the committee. You might be the guy that goes I watched an entire game and Jacksonville played out of their minds. It was like Purdue Ohio State. Not sure that's who they are through only like two picks. Right. What no Bortles was lights out. He was eight for eight on third down. And I think the first seven were passing third downs in the eighth was a run. I know it because I just watched the whole game going who who's this guy? What is up with this can we extend immediately. Can we give this guy and extension and now it has not? So in the moment that wasn't a fluke. It wasn't nothing that checks. It was great in that game. But now that loss looks terrible. And then they lost Troy twenty six ten when they weren't even close to being in that one. So I don't know. What's the worst loss? The Detroit one felt worse because the performance it self in the Jacksonville felt so good. But I don't know. I mean this one by the time the whole season is over in the final committee. We're looking at this. They. May look Jacksonville's resume which is really unfair. Because anybody that anybody that really watches us, and I know we can kind of all contradict ourselves. But you know, there are teams that are incredibly inconsistent depending on the week. You get you get them on an easy out or you get them when they're totally geared up and game planning. And I dunno weird motivations. And everybody's coming together. I mean teams are these this living organism in a weird way that that I think can change week to week. And that's why New England is so special for this entire run. So they've got the worst losses. They may be in the worst division, but they get that. Bama benefit of the doubt. If you're in the committee say we'll Kay. How do we look at New England? Like everything's supposed to be new. That's humanly impossible. It's not always week to week. We can pretend that's what's going to happen. But if New England we're going to be sitting there, and it was them in somebody else for the fourth spot New England's probably getting it the same way. Bama has their wins against playoff teams when against the Texans when it gets the cheese. Yes. Win against the bears. So they actually are better. That's what pats fans would do if we were doing this like geographically if they were arguing New England over Kansas City, they'd say, yeah. Or losses aren't as good. We've got the head to head and they're three and one against playoff teams, and we're three now be like. Yeah. But your own to against non playoff teams. I don't know how stuff works. So. There you go. All right. What about that? Third. Third team in the AFC. Is there anyone you can mention in this? The answer's no. So bad. Yeah. I don't I don't think although we're gonna we're gonna talk about the AFC NFC thing here in a second. Because I think it's a little bit more surprising going into it. I'm like man, I'm at team six or seven that. I think would be better than the third team in the AFC. But the number three team in the AFC right now is Pittsburgh. They're five two in one. Could you make an argument for them to be the other team in the final four? And as soon as you would say that somebody in the committee. I would hope would go you tied the Browns. But then somebody else committee may say, but they got they got back the second time revenge game negates losses. We used to do the stupid thing on all the college football discussions if you had a loss to a team. But then you beat him again in the conference championship game. It was like you just started over the like, okay, you're undefeated now. You lost? But they vanished. It. They ventured it, dude. You're five to one. They've won four in a row Atlanta. Cincinnati Cleveland Baltimore. But you tied the Browns. Have they figured some things out? They've said they figured some things out. But you tied the Browns. The other two teams Kansas City didn't do that entire the Browns doing Tai the Browns. You could do you could do the Notre Dame fan argument that you beat Michigan with your backup quarterback even the wimbush had played an entire season and the person that gave me that was big cat. But I didn't wanna call him out because I didn't want him to feel the ire of the Notre Dame fans. And it's really funny because now Notre Dame fans thing, I hate them. And it just that's not true. Never hated Notre Dame ever. But he almost I think he was upset. I wasn't giving them credit for that argument. I hadn't heard that argument. But now, I'm starting here at more and more. I've heard it on talk radio nerd fans. Want extra credit for beating Michigan with wimbush? When wimbush was the established guy in book wasn't. So then if you wanted to if you're Pittsburgh you. Could say sure we're five two and one and tied the Browns. But we did that with our backup running back and he had a headache. Right. James Connor because you're getting Levy on bell back. Who's just awesome on Twitter is taking this pretty seriously team guy. Conor your backup? Yes. He he'll be the backup. I would imagine. But he's been pretty good. He's number two in the NFL rushing. So let's not act like well. I don't want to take any shots at backup running backs because those those are people too. So let's go to the NFC. The Rams eight and one best win. I it's either the chargers of the Vikings. Now the Vikings are starting to figure things out here. They're talking about their defense. Everybody getting together on the same page. One of the safest thing, it was Harrison was saying, you know, we stopped. We were so hyped up in the beginning of the year. Obviously from rosters just talent standpoint. Minnesota's depth chart. It was something we were raving about before the season even started. But they seem to think that they've they've got this thing going in there. They're not going to be. They're not I hate doing the whole. They're not a team you wanna play in the plus or six freaking teams each conference. Okay. There's very rarely do you go. You know, we wanna play that five seat. They suck even since. No, excuse me, even Seattle and there were seven nine as a playoff team and winning the game as a seven nine playoff team. So the Rams do you wanna go chargers week three thirty five twenty three or Vikings thirty eight thirty one. I actually think I'm going to go that Vikings game because it was so much fun. And it was great and yes, they're both at home. And we could talk point score differential. Minnesota's better now than they were saying week four. But that was just a great. It was really one of the best games of the season right up there with the saints. Rams right up there with chiefs, and PAT's so I'm gonna go ahead and say that's their best win. But it is debatable and their only loss is Norlin. But that could be out of the chiefs. Yeah, we already did that. So I'll see that. She's still the better loss there. But it's really razor thin now better conference. That's what we do you go the NFC. This time. It counts. It'd be hard to do the the NFC more pros because they're all pros. It just means more. Can I put three NFC teams innocent of of two and two with NFC bias? Could I say something really stupid? If are in the community like, yeah. Eight one, but you know, after eight and row haven't been as hotly you don't wanna do that. Speaking of when they did any dolphins come on and do their thing. I don't I don't think I I feel like the dolphins undefeated storyline wasn't as big of a deal this year. Maybe because you get ten ino- before rookie Morris invited. I take. I don't know. Can we check on mercury Morris right now? Did anybody have them on? Every time I do anything. Now like that. I always immediately worried like, wait a minute. You know, what's going on mercury Morris? Nice little edit there. We just did a massive research project on mercury Morris, and it like I said it felt it felt a little neglected this time around, but it felt real time to you. We just did a series time travel there. We took about a ten minute break. Yeah. We can we can fin find anything. Okay. So that's the Rams argument. Norrland's Nola seven one best win ramps whereas loss week one Tampa. How about that? Remember when the Rams you're going. Okay. Lots of Tampa back then Fitzpatrick was still superhuman. Although he may be superhuman again. I mean, Ryan Fitzpatrick were superhero franchise there'd be like twelve movies is Hancock. Yeah. Because you just is he Hancock was handcuffed. Good. That's what I'm saying. He's a nigga. So you're saying it's not good. But he saved the world two Diddy. I didn't last I saw a hotel didn't make as a good one. Yeah. I don't know that was kind of like before we realize will Smith's on a bad run. Now, we were still locked into some of the other things everything was working out. And then it took us a few movies to go, wait a minute. And by the time after pop you go, oh, and then I kind of felt very anti Will Smith, and I read a really revealing article about him saying, yeah, it sucked when I had a really bad around. They're like, I'm competitive these movies to suck. When after earth was brutal. It was pretty bad. Brutal. I am legend. I liked everybody liked legend. Right. Well, it reminded me of Hartford. So it it was like that was he at a radio show. I have a radio show, you know, he'd be walking around at night. And I was like this guy is this Zayn legend about me. And then they drove over Mont the butterfly tattoo when I was a campus feels a little force at the end, but reminders somebody pursuing writing I've been told to not. Shootdown other story arcs because never know. Like, oh, hey, we really like your show. Weren't you shitting on? I am legend the ending and my screenplay like know you wrote that congrats those fun. It was fun right of the Vermont town with a huge wall. So. Orleans. Yeah. That was weird. That was really weird because they beat Cleveland week too. And I'm going all right. So they lose to Tampa. And the Cleveland thing looked like they were gonna lose. And you're going, I guess the Saint stink doesn't make any sense. But the argument in the committee would be they're getting better as the season progresses. They're playing great at the right time. They're three and against playoff teams, Washington. Minnesota in the Rams, wait a minute. They can't win on the road though. Well, yeah, they can't it's just at the playoff teams. They've all been at home. And then you would argue with having scheduled anybody out of conference like okay, everybody just shut up. So what am I gonna do? Here is their third team in the NFC number three seed is in the NFC go. Number three team in the NFC. Yes, falcons. No kidding. Well, you weren't kidding. You took a guess up with Jonah spot, and you didn't do. Well. That's all right. Atlanta's not even in the playoffs Chicago. You're Chicago Bears are five and three. And then win the head the head over the Redskins based on best win percentage in conference games. So. The bears aren't in my final four like wait a minute is the NFC actually better. Now is one of my other questions Chicago. Let's do this game. What's their best win? I can't believe they're the three seed in the NFC. I can't believe this conference that I thought was going to be so nasty. And you know, what there's still a good chance by the end of the year. We're sitting there go on. Remember when you know, it was Chicago, Washington Carolina. And then Minnesota was six Lanta start to figure some things out here on offense Seattle. I know they just lost and their foreign four. But I don't I don't know. I'm starting to believe in them again a little bit. But maybe I shouldn't because the winds are what lines raiders cardinals Cowboys. Maybe they do suck. Maybe I'm an idiot. But I think the end of the year. I'd be really surprising Carolina's got this thing. Going offense at six into as the other wildcard. They have the better record the division winners, or at least the division leaders right now, Chicago and Washington in the north and in the east but the bears. Best win is. Are the week to at the cardinal sixteen fourteen they smashed the box that was when Trubisky was like, Kurt Warner's older more bad ass dad, and then they beat the jets and the bills. So I'm gonna say their best win loss at home against New England. Yeah. Yep. There you go. Okay. So the rankings if are in the room, I've go Norlin one with a head to head against the Rams. I'd put the Rams to because I still think these two teams are better than everybody else in watching him and Sunday may be getting my head a little and I put Kansas City, even though they lost the head to head a New England three over the pats because the pats the extra loss and their two losses are Iowa ask for a house eight last year, we still have a lot to do today on the pod. We've got Chris Fowler trivia at the very end most important thing that I'll do today we'll be talking to the playoff chairman, rob Mullins will go over all the rankings just came out on Tuesday night. And I wanna hit up the tweet that pissed me off this week. That's next today's show and are. Our football podcast in Vegas. Brought to you by our friends over at Belvedere, the world's finest all natural vodka Belvedere is made with one hundred percent non GMO Polska ri- pristine water from their own natural. Well, and no additives in an exciting development. The ringer will be partnering with Belvedere to host their first ever crossover podcast with me. Kevin Clark and Robert Mays from the NFL show all live from Caesar's palace in Vegas on November twelfth at nine PM Pacific time. That's after the Monday night game. Join me Clark maze as they discuss. All things NFL from the greatness of homes t lie Manning's future in New York. Plus a number of gambling and fantasy tips come hang with the ringer. NFL crew in Vegas, November twelve and just visit the ring dot com slash Belvedere live. That's again, the ringer dot com slash Belvedere live to purchase your tickets. The very special live podcast is all made possible by the world's finest all natural vodka Belvedere. Please remember to. Always drink responsibly. See at Caesars this week's installments a little different because I don't know. There's a bunch of stuff Kentucky fans very upset last week felt I was dismissive on the podcast about Kentucky as a playoff contender. Or that? I hadn't watched Kentucky. I think the problem is. I'd watch Kentucky too closely in Missouri game. And I know your defense is really good. I just didn't you're gonna be George. He didn't. But it was a little bit of a reminder. There was some Kentucky football shit talk, which you're not always used to seeing. Now, I know that most of you in Lexington is basketball, people are apps of psychopaths, and that's well documented so we can't debate that. But then it was like, oh, wait. Well, if it was the same basketball fans that are also football fans as I could see this, and yeah, I think even pretty good. I think for Kentucky that you're kind of in this and you just playing the game on Saturday that was going to decide the east that in itself is great for Kentucky football. But I just think he was good. As those other teams, we saw that against Georgia. The football part of it was weird. It was kind of like getting nuggets shit talk the other night when I was watching the Celtics nuggets game. You go. Like, I'd said some about the Celtics in ego Yoda, dude, you're just like. Wait a minute nuggets fans talk shit on Twitter commute to it from Ohio State Penn State Koby fans, the raptors oddly enough, Utah anytime you say anyone might be better than anyone on the team. Philly for an entire year for your boy. But I said nuggets. Wow. That's weird nuggets. Guys are mad but be mad because the team is awesome. But I think people, you know, people watch him give them the props give them respect. So. Yeah. That's it was a little different. So here this thing isn't about the problem is is that the tweets that actually pissed me up. I could just do more canal anti tweets, but I've convinced that it's one of two things either insane or strategically saying as if you were running for office if I just dump on the one geographic area, the other four geographic conferences half to like me. So I'll just be more popular across the board. Eighty percent of the fan bases out there. I don't even know if eighties the right number. But if he's talking conferences, he would feel like, okay? Eighty percent of. The conferences, and he starts fighting for UCF all the time. So hell, let's make it even a higher percentage. He's thinking like geographic footprint like when. Rutgers. Let a Rutgers football on the podcast day. But like when Rutgers the great thing about getting Rutgers for the big ten is that they'd have the New York media market. Do you? Okay. Or when the ACC like, oh, a lock up this Boston media market by getting Boston College. Again. Do you do you have them? Because when I go to Boston, I don't hear a ton of ACC football talk. So I think that's what canals doing or he's just insane. And the thing is I think I prefer insane. Because every tweet I could destroy within minutes. And I want him to hear this. Okay. And we were way too cordial last week, but we just hadn't talked to children a long time. And I miss my friend. But yeah, his so I do a canal tweet every week, but I don't want to. And then if I got real specific with naming other people about the tweets that upset me the most. I don't want to name guys that I think are clowns, you know, because that's that's kind of the battle. If I'm naming you and I don't respect your work that I'm kinda hooking you up talking about you. So I don't really want you have to. Let's put it this way. If you're somebody that I don't like in the media. You're going to have to really piss me off for me to even mention who you are. Okay. So I'm not going to mention anyone in particular. But all of you that are pro Michael Thomas after the penalty for the cell phone celebration. It's not that those of us that were anti the penalty are narcotics Pearl clutching. You know, the group I don't have a family. So I don't have to explain Michael Thomas penalty crabbing cell phone to anyone of my family. And I look I still don't like it. I can't understand for the life of me when it's as simple as it is a really important game. It's a close game. Yes. Yup. By ten. Yes. You're playing the results. If your argument is whatever they one. Dude. But there were so many different people that tweeted this. I'm not even gonna do one specific person that was just like your. I think there was one guy from Sports Illustrated that said, you're no fun having narc if you're anti Michael Thomas is celebration. And it's very simple. Does getting the penalty make it tougher for your team to win. Yes is getting the penalty. Give your opponent in advantage. Did not have prior to because of the kickoff me move back. Yes. So it's not the end of the world. It doesn't mean. I don't you know, it doesn't mean. I'm only missionary position guy. It doesn't mean. I have a parental lock on cable channels at my house, even though I live alone. It doesn't mean that. I think Ray Romano is to edgy for stand up. It means I'm not a fucking moron about a penalty that's incredibly selfish. I don't get you, folks. Like, this isn't a social issue. It's nothing more than did you plan to do something incredibly selfish knowing it would cost your team fifteen yards. Just 'cause you wanted to. And if Troy Aikman goes off on it. You know? I just look, Sean. I was in the building. I watched Thomas hid from Sean Payton to the other end of the sideline and paint went to go find him and Peyton because today's day and age, you can't let completely sell your guy out says, you know, we talked about it. But he was looking for a man he was looking for and being like what what are you doing? Like what if player it said, hey coach at some point in a really important game. When it's kinda close late. I'd like to get a penalty for celebration as cool a coach like you. Do you man? I want you to be able to express yourself the ultimate freedom. I want everyone on his team to never worry about penalties. And I'm not I didn't care about the celebration. I thought it was a little selfish. But the arguments after the fact or what bothered me more than anything else. Rob Mon up here. In a second. Be spoke post check it out when you're constantly grinding away at work or out with friends. There's not much time to think about upgrading your style or party. I gotta be honest you much either. I'm Bob closes, I moved to LA. I just realized that out loud because all I've been wearing joggers and t shirts 'cause I'm trying to look like a thirty something. 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He is the athletic director, Oregon. He's been terrific. They're out new, gene. And he's been a friend of the show. We haven't hung out socially. But yeah, I've I've known him for a little while he's been great. And he is the playoff committee chairman now joins us a robbed the committee rankings come out tonight. And we've got Bama Clemson Notre Dame, Michigan, Georgia, Oklahoma. I think there was a lot of social media reaction LSU at seven Washington state was Regino house data tent. So we've got the rankings. I guess I always start with kind of how how much of a gap you feel or how much of a tear there is at the top. Is it safe to say that you see ala Bama and Clemson closer each other? And then another tier having how many teams would you kind of describe as being in that kind of top group. Yeah. That's not really the way it works in the committee room. If you've been through the mock who actually do it smaller groups, I think it's clear committee, Alabama. As one and in two, but that's not necessarily the way it breaks down. When you start looking at groups, and again, we only looking through week ten their conversation about Notre Dame and Michigan, obviously when you look at Michigan with the number one defense in the country dominant win last week over Penn State, but then you still have to head to head and as the protocol calls for that head to head batters. And you know, at this point Notre Dame skill three Michigan for why LSU still ahead of say, Washington state was Jinyan Ohio State with the extra law. Well, when you look at LSU as body at work, particularly as you look as compared to this group of twenty five that we just ranked revealed today, you know, they have the most top twenty five win any came. They still have three winters current EPS PICO twenty five they won at Auber beat Georgia. They beat Mississippi State. And while they did. Suffer twenty nine nothing loss at home to our Bama, the number one team and a road loss to Florida when you look at their overall body of work and the strengthen that Ethan I it it's an impressive resume. Do you think people are used to the AP? I think historically punishing teams for losing to better teams. I always say like, okay. And if you think this team is six and they get smashed by team number two. Like, why do you drop them to sixteen? And so when I think when LSU only drops four spots, and they can't score a point at home again against Alabama. I guess people just expect to see that team in a drop more. Maybe that's other committee differs from traditional voting. Yeah. No. We start with a clean sheet every week. But I think to your specific question. Yes, I think people are used to the history of the media polls. And and remember those poll start before a game even. So you know, there's a poll before week one. And I think it's wise for the college football playoff selection committee to wait 'til after week nine even that can be difficult. You know, because, you know, something of only seven eight Dame, and and that's that's tough, but a tweak at one more data and start with a clean sheet, which is the way to go and take a deep dive with resume stop by side. It's just not a lip. Look at last week ranking do you wanna move them up to lost movement down? Now. No, it clean sheet who won who lost. How did they win? How did they Lou? How do they compare a people in their staint pool of teams? So it's a deep dive every week in a lot of comparative analysis was there much opposition pushback LSU in the room being that high. There's there's always conversation. You know, particularly when you're looking at you know to lossing versus one loss team. When there's not a lot of comparible opponent. You know, it does get a lot of conversation debate. But again when you look at that resume those those win at Auburn versus Georgia versus to be stake in their two losses or against ranked teams. You know, it's hard to argue and I'd get the offense point. I mean, yes, you know, they're inconsistent on offense when their offense put points on the board. They're tough team because that decent can be dominant. So does that mean that you and the committee feel neutral site LSU against Washington state was Virginia? Ohio State would beat those teams. I guess the best way to say is that this point we see LSU ranked higher that wash West Virginia state. It doesn't, you know, necessarily come down neutral site. But I mean, I guess in a way you look at it. Yes, we LSU as a better team after we. And I want to get back to some you said about Notre Dame and Michigan 'cause. My years of I've gone through the committee process twice. And then I was lucky enough to talk Jeff long and Kirby for four years and really happy to have you on the podcast. You're so I think I have a pretty good understanding of of how everyone represents the committee speaks and when fans get upset about well, they said conference championships matter, and now they don't or they said had had matters. Now, they'll be some example of maybe it doesn't play out that way. You just said, you know, the Notre Dame head to head over Michigan means a lot. And that's why they're three and Michigan is four. How could that change? Then. Well, you know, we're only through week ten and the protocol has several things in it that when you have gains that are comparible at the margin. You you know, you look at these protocol one is head to head result. One is conference championships. Comparible, you know, Michigan Notre Dame of both played northwestern. And I believe both on the road, and they won those games. So, you know, you take all those things into consideration. I think you make an excellent point Ryan and the staffer members you have been one of the most prepared media members for those box so kudos to you. But I think what happened is fans wanna put things in a vacuum. They want to they want to align on the big of the protocol that bit their argument when the reality is oftentimes that you've probably experienced in the mock there's conflicting data and you have to make a decision. That's why this is this is an art not a science, and there is some subjectively to it. Because not everything is going to align perfectly. You have to take bits and pieces of information. Sometimes that information is going to be in conflict in it's up to the thirteen. Members of the committee had debate the merits and make a decision. I'm always curious. Why Bill Hancock would say something? Like, oh, use UCF definitely has a chance. I see. And I'm not necessarily one of the the bleeding UCF. The oh. The oh. Guys that are just like, oh this ridiculous. They're left out. But I don't see any possible way. UCF gets back in this thing at eight but twelve and I'm sure the strength scheduled crushing them in any debates inside the room. Yes. Drink schedule as a key piece. This is not just an exercise went to strength. The schedule matters as you know, you experiencing the mock when you put two resumes up on the board. You know, you're looking at the result of every single game. Not only the score but the record of the opponent. Then you get all the statistics and in a lot of summary information. And so that resume is critically important. So you know, it's not just the record. It is looking at who they be how they performed not only that. But then you gotta say, then I gotta compare that to somebody else's resume or a group of kings resume Phillips, a comparative analysis, which I think sometimes people lose track up. I wanna do a broader kind of thing now because I remember when you first on it, and I was like, yeah, I'd been some of the mocks. And when you sit through the mock it really is. Impressive in. It's it's very helpful. It's very helpful for me who had to talk about this every single day. And there's thing I love talking about. I love doing it. I found the drama in this kind of similar to like an NBA offseason drama where it's just all the speculation. And people already freaking out about the idea of Alabama losing closest title game to Georgia Georgia in bama's out like what's going to happen or would Bama stay in. But I know if I ask you that he's going to go. Hey, man, we're ten weeks through we we get there. So if if I back this whole thing up what about the processes surprise, you the most raw? That's a tough question. I think early on the third year on the committee. I think early on I was so fast with with how much data you have at your fingertips. I mean, you can take a deep dive as you want data. And then probably how how well prepared. The members are main we show up here on Monday boarding. You have thirteen members who watched a significant number of games who have just combed through the data who've done their own comparative analysis and walk into that room at the Gaylord, fully prepared corvette each and every take. I know that when I would do shows, and then forget even shows in the hallway you run into three guys that were great football players, and you know, van pelt, and I may run a new him. There's certain people that are combative about this. And there's other people that are agreeable willing to listen how does that play out in the room with all the different personalities? Well, I mean, you know, anytime you're part of a team whether it's at work, you know, or a committee or a local charity, you know, having diverse thought Pinon is extremely helpful the reaching the best decision, and when you think about college athletic, and how some of these sport committees are set up this one is very neat. You have five sitting eighties. You have. I think it's five or tired coaches. Former media member initially, we have a hall of fame former player, Ronnie li-, you know, that very structure. So of course, there's all kinds of great debate. And discussion because it's diverse opinions people. Value different things differently. And I think that's how you end up with the best result, and the beauty of those thirteen members in the way, it set up is you know, you can have very candid debate. And that's what you want. And that's one of my job as jarash to make sure that I smoke that debate. Make sure we think of all ankles ask somebody to play devil's advocate to the you look at every single angle because this is this is important to college football, which is extremely important to college athletic has there been a time where you go. Hey, I know what the data says, I know what the numbers are. No everything's. I just think this a team is better than team b can that still happen in that room? Yeah. It does happen. And you can't just say I think team as better than be you have to be able to say why you have to be able to articulate it. But sure that does happen. 'cause I I know what the numbers day. But I also what I am. I asked me this. And that does happen is their argument from previous years now that doesn't matter anymore that you can remember that. Maybe you had or that would be a good story on an argument. What what what what I found interesting? My first years on the committee. Ryan, you could go through a set of these. You know, we do six the and you end up with two teams end up side-by-side, and look very similar all year, you know, a couple years ago when Colorado won the south and the Pac twelve I think it was Oklahoma, Colorado and Oklahoma just lined up every week, and you go. Wow. Those think this is going to be hard to break. And you know, it's a fine line Bill. You know, you end up in a lot of conversations like that. Where you get two teams that look very similar or you'll have to teams one with an incredible often in a week beef, and and one with an incredible defense, and we often and how do you compare those two? Yeah. That's always. That's always the thing. Like, even when I would go into it, and I had to do rankings for the website for two years. And I ended up kinda hating it. I don't think people understand like they give you grief about all can't believe teams eighteen in this team's twenty one. It's so hard to separate those teams. It just I don't know. I like when you're going through it. What do you think has been kind of a defining thing? That's happened. These first two weeks of these rankings of trying to figure out how much better Mississippi State or B C is than Auburn or Washington. Great question so much attention in the media's paid on one through four one through six or you know, still has a chance to make the playoffs. I will tell you this week because nearly fifty percent of the teams from last week's rankings of eleven twenty five lakh seven of those teams. With phil. When you start looking at you know, whatever it is fifteen or sixteen and up. It gets really difficult. You have some two loss team three loss teams. You know, some that have one tuna row something that they have lost two in a row. It extremely extremely difficult yet extremely important to the teams, you know, being ranked matters, even if it's twenty five, and we wanna make sure that we give it as just too. I think the public because there's so much discussion and talk around the four or the sixty still have a chance track of how much time is spent on, you know, fifteen twenty five. Yeah. But then again, the thing I've I've never really liked about the arguments and fans do it. And I've just I repeat myself too often this, but I've heard every single possible argument any fan base can give me, and I know that I can immediately like see through it. But that top twenty five stuff matters. And I always think that's kind of silly as if like team twenty ninth is that much worse. Than team twenty. I like some years. Yes. And some years absolutely not. But then when you can say, well, wait a minute. We're we're foreign one against top twenty five and but your top twenty five wins against teams twenty through twenty five to me. That's not as impressive. And that's why those teams being in there at the back end. It's still important. It's important at Penn State. Find a way to stay in the top twenty five for other teams. No question in energizes, the fan base doesn't Ajaj the fan base. And it does matter in the rankings. But you know, as you know, when you look at in the room on the data, you're looking at exactly where they were. Right. So, you know, whether somebody was bad or twenty four, but you know, it does matter win over a ranked opponent matters. Okay. That wasn't I kind of statement. So it wasn't a great question. They're gonna wanna do a better job in these last two. All right. I always thought that you would say conferences don't come into play. And this isn't just goes back to Jeff long because if you told us that conferences mattered, then we would obviously have to ask you, how do you rank the conferences, and you don't wanna do that? But I don't know how it's humanly possible to debate these teams from different conferences and talk about which conferences or deep or which conferences are. So what's the best way that you can help me understand because I think it's impossible to pretend that these discussions don't involve that stuff. Well, I mean, we don't bring up the conferences in the room. But no, nobody talks about who's in what conference obviously, we know. Who's in what conference him what we're putting resumes up? We can see the list of opponent. But there is no there is no conversation about conferences, while they're in this conflict that convert this one stronger than that wanted it strictly about individual teams mex-. Okay. Then with this LSU ranking with others argue. I think a lot of times people are from other conferences in you know, me being ESPN. Everybody's everybody. All you guys are always see guys will you're out there with Pac twelve I mean, you're either one of the best in the country, Oregon, and you're now the committee chair, and you know, what there will be from certain people about these ranking saying, they're just doing the SEC thing. Again, they're doing it. Again. How do you respond to that? How do you? I guess sell me on. I don't believe it, but sell talk to the conspiracy theorists that don't understand how you guys put this together. Well, I guess the best way to summit up as we get that from all ankle there's there's from from every angle. You know, the beauty of college football is this. I think Mike recos at this. You know, the currency of of college football is passion and debate and people see it with their own school colored glasses on there's no again, this is about team versus team. And when you're putting a resumes on the board. Again, the conference doesn't matter doesn't come into play. It's really just about looking seeing who's performed in who they've played again. And and then, you know, taking that set a result and making decision. You know, what I'm talking about though, like, you know, a couple of guys. So does that bothering if you guys will you come to the hotel and be like did you hear Joel Klatt again? And I love jewel, I think he's great. But he's gonna lose his mind about the LSU ranking. And we'll anyone bring that up me. Like, these guys actually think that I still don't understand why the Pac twelve AD would want SEC to have more teams in. But that's just me being maybe rational about the whole thing. But do you ever address that at least privately with each other? And be like, hey, did you hear what so and so said about rankings now, not not necessarily know, you know, you know, somebody might say, you know, you know, somebody came up to them at their town or something that that, you know, you guys love this league, or you know, you ignore this league. But now that's not part of our debate. You know, our debate is again, you know, when you sign up to be on this committee. Right. You you can expect at some of that will come okay. I guess my final thing we are the boys doing and are they worried about Damian Lillard. Well, thank you for asking. They are doing great. It's just amazing. You know, how they attracted to stars in the NBA the NBA such as heart job of how they market their stars. They're worried about Damian Lillard, they're worried about Colli Leonard. They're they're worried about all of their paid attention. That's for sure now. I know they're big NBA guys. So they make dental Los Angeles. I'll have to I don't know if I get you Lakers tickets, but maybe clippers. All right. Well, we're all about it. We love to go to game with back. We're in Salt Lake City this weekend to Friday nights, Celtics or at the jazz. So we try to stay over at game. Yeah. You gotta do that. Man. Hey, look, I really appreciate it. You have a ton of respect for you. And it's gonna be a lot of fun as close this thing out and try to figure it out, man. So thanks again. 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Who is Nick Mullens?

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Who is Nick Mullens?

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And then in college football, you've got a one versus three matchup down in Louisiana as albums going to travel. The death valley at night gonna top ten matchup in the SEC already going to determine one of those divisions this weekend. And yet last night, we got force-fed some of the worst football on planet earth. Now, our misfortune ends up being the gain what could be a career maker for one guy because last night. The San Francisco forty Niners dispatch the Oakland Raiders thirty four to three on Thursday night football. And while it was not a game that was inherently interesting feature a lot of defensive prowess or really anything of note. It was a game that took place between Derek Carr, Nick Mullins, which ends up being the story this one. And if you're wondering, I'm a pretty big football fan. I don't think I've ever heard of Nick Mullins before you would be correct in your assessment. Most of us had not heard of Nick Mullins before the coming days, Nick Mullins, e 2017 undrafted free agent out of southern miss. Started his day off. So he gets the news that he's going to start. Very late in the game Thursday night Friday morning. He started off his day by receiving a good luck Tech's from fellow southern miss golden eagle. Brett farve. Now, you have to imagine that was the first of many text messages for him. But the one that was going to be the most guys getting ready to make his first NFL start on a primetime game against the Oakland Raiders. And I don't care who you are underhanded free agent myself. This is a hell of a position for guy to be an career maker break kinda moment. And Nick Mullins the San Francisco forty Niners starting quarterback. Yes. You get to say that today. Nick Mullins soak it in talked about the feeling of knowing he was going to get the start last night feeling obviously knowing that you're gonna start put some more emphasis on it. I guess you could say preparation stayed pretty consistent studied the plan. Always going to be ready when my name was called, and it was called. And so just tried to do the best that I could. And the team did the best that we could you know, we played great sound football three phases. The game. Personal last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN, man. My guy already has the stock quarterback answers down, Pat. He's been reading from the handbook he's been sitting there to Jimmy Garoppolo CJ Beathard. You've got all these guys in front of you CJ Beathard was out last night with a wrist injury. That actually gave him trouble gripping the football. Which is the reason Nick Mullins is getting the start to begin with. And he's been sitting there soaking up all of this stock very vanilla quarterback answer. Just in case. He finally got to this moment had to get up at a post game press conference. But do did it last night. Three touchdown passes in his NFL debut, weeding the forty Niners to a season high thirty four points in that route the first player in forty Niners history to throw three touchdown passes and his team debut this according to you live sports bureau and he's just a fourth quarterback ever to throw for three touchdown passes. It is first NFL game over the last twenty five seasons. Joining listen to these names the for the quarterbacks to throw for three touchdown passes in their first NFL game in the last twenty five years the last twenty five years we've seen some damn good quarterbacks. Come and go in this league the before quarterbacks three touchdown passes in their first career games in the last twenty five seasons. Mark Bolger in two thousand two Ryan Fitzpatrick in two thousand five my God and heaven Marcus mariota in two thousand fifteen to actually through four. And Nick Mullins in two thousand eighteen and this is the kind of game I made for this game ends up being a lot more about our perception of the raiders the forty Niners. Best days are ahead of them. They're young quarterback of the future is injured playing this year. So, unfortunately, we really gonna pay much attention last night ends up being more about jockeying for draft position as we go towards this spring. But for Nick Mullins, you could make a career off that what happened last night for Nick Mullins can be enough to keep him bouncing around the league for a few few more years than undrafted free agent would have otherwise. And that's the reality that kid made a lot of money last night. And you gotta be happy Vic Mullen signing bonus as undrafted free agent zero dollars zero cents. And I mean that is not under free agents. I got a few. I got a few thousand dollars signing bonus. Your some guys you'll see get ten twenty thousand dollars that are priority free agents. Nick Mullins got zero dollars and zero sense. He was not supposed to make it last night was not supposed to happen last. That was exactly what we're supposed to happen for the raiders though. This is what they've been trending towards. This is what they have been trying to do. This is what happens when you are selling off parts at rapid pace, Jon Gruden aka the value. God. Has been trying to strip this thing down and build it back up yesterday. Took an interesting turn some sitting around. And we all we have this interview the Jon Gruden did. With FOX on Wednesday and. Just listen to what Jon Gruden says. And we'll digest it together. If you haven't heard this before this is Jon Gruden doing interview with FOX from Wednesday talking about players wanting to be Oakland, Raiders, I got a cell phone just like you and everybody else I get a lot of phone calls from people that are dying to commonplace here. I'm just telling their dying to play for the raise to have salary cap space and have a chance to talk to the people that you really want to wear the silver and black the guys you really want to where the silver black and represent this team. That's exciting. First and last here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, man. Jon Gruden seems like he's going out of his way to make sure the guys that are on this current raiders roster know that he doesn't like them. Like, we hear all this time about coaches using the media to send a message to guys you better. Hope the Jon Gruden is the exact opposite that there is some sort of other worldly show of support going on behind closed doors, but this grown man football's the NFL, you don't have to go out to coddle anybody. But at the same time, these guys are smart they see in. No, their coach came from the media understands the media for the most part and to go out there and say this and know that it's going to get back to that locker when this I can't I can't wrap my head around this and Jon Gruden we've a media guy for the last number of years put as a football player and a football coach, I should say for a long time. This is baffling that is baffling because we're gonna we heard a lot last night about this raiders team quitting on Jon Gruden and the things that come in that territory when you're losing. And when you're trending this. Way. And when the tanking word keeps getting thrown around over and over again, all of that becomes natural in a certain way for this group. But hearing this Jon Gruden it seems like he's inviting it because what does this tell every player on this team? But you're probably not in our future plans either. We've sold off the best guys on our team to remind you in a very almost patriot esque way that you don't matter in our grand plans at this point. Now quitting a whole 'nother thing Darren Woodson are ESPN NFL analysts sportscenter yesterday and said that's not what's happening with this raiders group. There say watch Vilma say Gaza quitting on because he's a professional. These guys are out there again, they're not just playing for Jon Gruden. They're playing for everyone else. That's gonna be watching them throughout the process. It's about the lack of personnel that they have going through injuries. And they don't have any dynamic players that are out there making big place for this book ball team and today, they went out there. And like they played all all these last couple years dysfunctional with the lack of personnel. And this is what happened. And I tell you what Darren is writing this. And you're always cognizant, especially the guys that make up the meat of the bell curve at his roster that you're going to likely be playing season somewhere else in any given year to begin with. And you're always thirty one other teams are going to see this. But what he said there is true at this point. And I can't speak to every player on that teams relationship with Jon Gruden again. Maybe it looks better behind closed doors. But if I'm a player hearing, these things in the media, I can tell you I'm probably not playing for Jon Gruden that much can be sure I will go out there. And like we have with all those teams you put it on the line for your family, your reputation what you're trying to do furthering your place in this league. But playing four coaches something for a lot of guys goes out the window at this level to begin with. But when you hear that vote of confidence, and I say that with the utmost sarcasm built into that font for you guys that makes it pretty easy to say. Well, I'm definitely not playing for that guy. First and last podcast backing fall out from one of the uglier situations in college football, we've seen in quite some time at the university of Maryland. More people departing this program in the groups around it in wake of firing of DJ, Dirk the decision to overturn recommendation by the board of regions and everything else that is all gone back and resulted from the death of Jordan McNair on this football team. It's first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, and we know that yesterday we saw the firing of DJ Durkan had football coach now former head football coach of the university of Maryland wall is low the university president stepping in and going against the recommendation from the board of regents well James Brady, the chair of the Maryland, bore of regions is stepping down immediately. He announced yesterday McNair, excuse me, James Brady was part of that board that recommended reinstating DJ Durkan as the football coach despite the objection of walla's lo who's going to retire at the. The end of the year Brady released a statement with his resignation saying he respected the many people who disagreed quote there were difficult decisions. Based on information included in reports stemming from two investigations and a great deal of thought and deliberation I understand that reasonable people could come to other conclusions and even among our board some did going forward. I believe the board needs to be able to return to the important business of supporting an advancing American Maryland public university system for the benefit of its students and families and of people across the state in recent days, I become the public face of both the board and its decisions related these matters in my estimation might continued presence on the board will inhibit its ability to move, Maryland, higher education agenda forward, and I have no interest in serving as a distraction from that important work and vets probably the perfect place to stick on this because that was everyone's point of contention with this all along with DJ Durkan at the center of this. It was. Was regardless of where you fell on this. And it seemed invoice instance, almost universally people looking at this situation. Crying foul for all of the obvious reasons that this program could not move forward. I'm amazed the more I look back at it. What had to be said? It's one of two things either DJ Durkan who was now the former Maryland head football coach who is accused of running a toxic program. Although the this board of regents and the studies they conducted deemed it wasn't toxic. Even though guys were afraid to come forward and say anything about what was going on. And there for fear of repercussions. Which sounds pretty damn toxic to me all of that going on all of that going on and. To try and move forward based off of that. Now, regardless of whether you believe every word of the reports are not the stained from the outside made it impossible for DJ Durkin to continue to be at the helmet continue to be in the middle of this after all that gone on once you are tied to the horrible nature of what happened with Jordan McNair. And so the problem is now is this is just the jumping off point to move. Forward was something that James Brady said there everyone of the university trying to move forward. The problem is and Mark Schwarzer ESPN reporter was on sportscenter yesterday saying there's still plenty of tension. Leftover to deal with right now about a thousand students streamed through the campus, they were chanting Justice for Jordan. They were chanting about safety for student athletes. They were talking about accountability from the administration and the department, but they were not only agreement there was discord and there was some chaos. Some people were saying boycott the foot. Ballgames others were saying support the football team. But when you've been around this campus, and some of the people that we talked to were you know, that firing coach Turkey is not going to cure all the ills that affect this university community first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. We're brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level. Make the switch to Pennzoil synthetics today, and that tension there runs deep I saw tweets from a couple of Maryland players saying it's interesting that the support comes now when I haven't seen a full stadium there since we got on campus. I it's not going to be perfect across the board because his team full of one hundred twenty plus guys with as we mentioned yesterday on golick wingo. We talked about this. I'm sure varying opinions about who they thought DJ Durkan was as a coach. Now, the one thing that seemed universally true they were all deeply saddened by the loss of their teammate. That is something as someone who not while playing. But after playing. Loss teammates and members of our support staff, and it's a difficult process to deal with and one that you have to deal with together. It's the only way through it in these situations with these guys, and if you've got fractured trust with the coach that becomes impossible. And if you're a school and a program, again, I'll go to the board of regents and the people doing these reports met with DJ Durkan met with the university athletic director met with wall was low, and they heard a presentation from DJ jerkin about how he could believe how he believed that he could move the football program through this time of turmoil into the future and help get them back to where Maryland football wants to be a place where by the way, Matt Canada portion of season seems to have been close to getting talking to Maryland fans, there was hope an optimism around the football program's product on the field for the first time in quite some time. But for DJ Dirk to stand up in front of that group, either what he said was so persuasive. A group of people could ignore the obvious logic of a situation and logic. I think it was summed up really well by Dan Levitan here that will here in a second about the reality of this program with this man attached to going forward. Either his presentation was so persuasive, or again, something that came up when we talked to Sally Jenkins yesterday the threshold for what the board needed to hear in order to keep this guy on was so low because of these circumstances that whatever they heard if it was positive enough was going to be enough. Dan Le Batard yesterday on the obvious part of this situation. Why DJ Durkin had to go? Even if that person was innocent at ten and fifteen one hundred percent innocent you have to fire him anyway, because he's job is to get recruits. And it's been torched. You can't have a dead player on your hands. A toxic culture that has been investigated and get anyone's parents to lend you their kids and their kid's bodies. Like, even if he were a same. The job. He came at the job is to get recruits. Like, you could say the job is to win. But the job is to get the crews. He can't do it as well. Get out of here. Like, you gotta go, dude. Even if you're in I'm sorry that stinks. I know we want to do all the innocent until proven guilty, and nobody cares about unfair here. You fail in your charge. First and last here on ESPN radio you failed in your charge. If you were DJ Durkan, and if you're James Brady is someone who as you said was the face of this board and everything in the response. You were that was the being the chair of that board has that responsibility. Come with it. And with the responsibility to take in all the information report and make the decision that was in the best interest of the university of Maryland. Based on the response. You got James Brady also failed in that charge. And so him having to go and carving out the people that were part of this period in Maryland's program history is the again only way it probably moves through to any place that becomes palatable for the family of Jordan McNair, first and foremost for the Maryland football team in the athlete department and everyone else that involves around it from there on out. 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Football was last night where the forty Niners went out and absolutely rolled over the Oakland Raiders in a way that is going to invite all this conversation about the raiders quitting. My mind is really just a reminder of what the raiders are doing which is not being at all invested in winning. They got three first round picks this year to next year to five worse round picks in the next two years. Jon Gruden is clearly said now for some time. All right. I've got a ten year contract. I've got time and space to make this work. We'll get to Hugh Jackson who did not have time and space in his coming out. And being unusually candid for someone who probably still wants to coach in this league somewhere. And maybe this is part of it. Maybe in his mind, it's clearing up. A lot of the question marks around his departure. So that in the next job interview. There's no misunderstanding about where he believes. He sat where it went wrong. You Jackson who I believe I saw at first take. Today. Like, I keep reading that feeling like, it's a typo. But Hugh Jackson, the former Browns head coach believe is going to join I take today, which I am infinitely fascinated by didn't interview with Mary Kay cabinet the other day and talked about some things that we get into a little bit. But he was operating the way most coaches do where it already seemed given his record as a head coach. He was on borrowed time for Jon Gruden based on the vote of confidence. And you've been given you believe you've got a longer one way. And so it produces games like last night right now, it's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts because the rest of this weekend in the NFL is markedly more interesting like I said, I'm looking forward to the college football matchup down here. But this area the country's also playing home to one of the best NFL games. This weekend is the Los Angeles Rams come to take on the New Orleans Saints, but this weekend and this week is really been defined by the conversation around these Sunday night football matchup. Green Bay going on the road against the New England Patriots and the whole Brady. Rogers debate, we tear everyone kind of explain away Tom Brady the greatest of all time, the winning resume the Super Bowls. But here in Rogers, the best of all time, the skills we've done this before so many times over we've done that. So many times the quarterbacks actually got to way in which feels strange for the first time on this. Aaron Rodgers actually being asked about Tom Brady, and this sort of comparison in the first time, I can really remember. And all this Rogers on Brady towns at the top is game for over a decade planet high level when Ps? MBP's? He's he's been phenomenal player in this league. So he's a fun to watch younger player trying to figure out what you know what he's doing. Obviously we play a little bit different style a game. But the stuff that he does well stuff that over my career, I've tried incorporating HOGAN. I last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. What I would give to know what Aaron Rodgers thinks about this behind closed doors Aaron Rodgers by all accounts isn't extremely reserved individual when it comes to what he's willing to put out into the public. You someone who guards his privacy, but behind closed doors when you talk to guys that are teammates talked to guys that have played within against him era is a hyper competitor, an alpha male on the sports field and the guy who's gonna wear you out like his teammates have talked about how openly he is bleep talking you in practice when it is you versus your team the guys that you are in the locker room with every day. Let alone what he thinks of himself amongst the other quarterbacks in the NFL playing against other teams. I would give any amount of money to hear him speak freely on that. But it's never going to happen. So this is what we're going to have to deal with now on the other side, it became just as interesting. So the debate you can have about this. I think comes down to personal preference. The people that want to ring. Counter. Always get a pick Brady. The people like myself who just are overwhelmed by the physical gifts of Aaron Rodgers. And the precision of the things he does and has done despite not always feeling like he's gotten the support that he needs there in Green Bay. I always firmly planted in the Aaron Rodgers hive Bill bell check at an interesting answer. When he was asked about Tom Brady and one that's not going to especially given the recent history of the patriots probably do him any favors in the talk of his relationship with the star quarterback. Here's Bill Belichick when asked if Brady has the edge over Rogers. The over. Played against on Brady. So I'm glad he's our quarterback. He's a great quarterback. No one a lot of games for don't believe a lot more than we've won a lot of games because I've never played against on. This is a battle of forces trying to give the most diplomatic answer possible. And what happens in the course of that? Is you give an answer a lot of people just go. You've never played against Tom Brady g to play against you see him every day. You've got a better vantage point of this guy than anyone in the history of pro football is head. Maybe I don't know universally lauding them with praise seems like a lot better answer than just focusing on. Well, I haven't played against my guy. So I can't really say way to go about it. Maybe there's other quotes involved in this. It's one soundbite. Amidst a sea of them. But man, it doesn't really help from outsiders perspective. When you hear that it sounds like more of. Oh, yeah. That's right. I forgot these to the relationship that we've heard about with these two all offseason that people have described as maybe less than fatherly. And suddenly in all of this still might not be great which is shame because this season is done. Exactly what we said it would in the off season and put all that talk. Squarely behind us when it comes to the relationship between Brady Bella CSAK in cronk hausky wanting to retire and all this stuff and doom and gloom that we heard ever since Seth wicker sham wrote that piece at the end of last year. So the there's that all of this again has been an exercise in subtlety. It's been an exercise in trying to play the appropriate game in public not only for guys that are generally not inclined to really give you anything of value. When it comes to a sound by put also guys that understand. They got a game coming up this weekend. You look at the actual game of this and air, Raj. The Green Bay Packers. Just almost put it on the undefeated, Los Angeles Rams in Los Angeles. They were a misguided time. Gumri fielding of a kickoff return away for mayor Rogers having a chance to go down and win that game and do so behind an offense that it had plenty of success against the Rams defense. Now, we know that didn't end up happening, and you don't get credit for almost wins in the NFL. But I watched that game and watch the Packers defensively on the road against one of the best. If not the best offense is in the NFL, maybe outside of what we've seen in Kansas City. And so that Green Bay Packers defense if they can check the Rams who. Not only have great players, but that great scheme and an offense. You've got Aaron Rogers. That's a team that like we said at the beginning of the season. But lost our way a little bit. That's a team that can win the Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers at the helm if that defense plays like it did against Los Angeles Rams that team can win the Super Bowl. And we saw them expose them things in protection for the Rams that we didn't think were possible. And based on what we just saw recently from the patriots in a team that had difficulty protecting Tom Brady in their last game. It's not far fetched to think the Packers could go on the road. And do this a road environment? Does not worry them clearly. But that being said that is the nuanced version of this conversation and not the frustration that boiled over for own Steve Naismith yesterday who on first take went on to say this about Aaron Rogers and his tenure with the Packers going forward. I personally want Ameri rajas to demand. Trae from the Green Bay Packers at the end of this season. I want him out. He doesn't deserve this organization. Does not deserve Aaron Rodgers. First and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and ESPN straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless, nationwide coverage and America's largest most dependable four G LT networks, and that's been the frustration for a lot of people for a long time. And. We've constantly looked at Mike McCarthy, and what we hear is this frayed relationship between the two and the organization that had Aaron Rogers on an absolute steal of a deal at felt like the last few years because that's what happens with these quarterback deals. They reset the market, and then a few years so many other quarterbacks have gotten paid that we look at theirs and all the sudden say well based on what the cap does. And the other quarterbacks this is more affordable. And we looked at Aaron Rodgers as someone who is on a deal that allowed his team to do things that they didn't. Now, we sit here and say, you know, what they've gotten rid of Jordy Nelson his favorite weapon they've gotten rid of quarterbacks coach Aaron Rodgers really value. But now we look around and say, well, all right. Devante Adam seems to be Morphing into a true number one receiver Aaron Jones at running back free. Aaron Jones, by the way, seems like a guy that you can rebuild around in this run game. You have maybe the two best hackles and football. Maybe the guys in Kansas City, would would certainly throw an argument into that. Those guys I think improving obviously, Eric fishers guy who's gotten paid like it. But. I don't think is on the level of David Bach Yar who might be the best left tackle in football. You've got an offense of group. That's rolling. You've got a defense that you invested so many picks in on that right side for the first time in a while Green Bay seems like a place that might be finally giving Aaron Rodgers that support. Now, we it's to be determined. Whether that's going to be too little too late or not the NFC. We know is stacked full of talented teams that are getting better. Philadelphia loads up gets golden Tate at the trade deadline starting to look better. Seattle's metamorphosis, they're changed this offseason. Looks like it might finally start to be bearing fruit the entire NFC south. You can throw in there. But man, you always got a chance when you've got Aaron Rodgers and the way he's playing that knee continues to hold up and he's looked healthier in the last couple of weeks. This looks like a team that for the first time in a while might be deserving. If that's the thing, and the concept is deserving is a hilarious one. I can dispute for you. But for the first time in a while, it seems like this Green Bay Packers team might be supporting Aaron Rodgers in the way, we all looked. Thought that he deserves? And last podcast. And we got tweets coming in about a ton of different topics that we've covered so far today infinite content tweets in referencing be Maryland football program. Jane James Brady, the chair of the board of regents that recommended DJ Durkin be reinstated. He stepped down yesterday after DJ Durkan was let go the day prior and infinite content tweets in the coach knew nothing and was negligent duties, or you didn't ignored the issues either way had to go and obviously DJ Durkan. We all thought based on the findings in the report that deemed the program, not toxic despite having all the traits pointed a DJ Durkan someone that yes was at worst best negligent and at worst a catalyst for the environment. That makes all this stuff and James ratings guilty of the same thing of being charged with making a decision in the best interest of the university and failing in that charge. And when you fail that way. You've gotta go Jeremy Johnson. Tweets in. If you see f goes undefeated the season and win New Year's Eve bowl and top teams end up losing. Can you legit support their claim for back to back national champions UCF last night got taken to the wire? I don't know what the final score at a being they started pulling away at the end of the fourth quarter. But temple a team that has struggled especially out of the gate this season. But started looking better as of late took him every step of the way last night in a game that involved absolutely no defense, which is the theme. Collagen pro for last night. No last night showed me that defensively. UCF would not be able to go out and compete with the other teams involved in this UCF is very good football team. And I don't want to belittle the accomplishments of that group of young men at all, and what they've been able to do now to your straight that level of consistency. But as far as the cries for their legitimacy in college football, I'm sorry. I just don't I don't have the time for that right now and Matthew weather for tweets, and how do you feel about to marry Thomas going to that Houston offense as we said the NFL schedule this weekend is ripe with some interesting games at Houston going on the road at Denver Houston gained a lot of momentum. Watch that conversation get a little quieter this weekend because that Denver defense against a pretty good offense has managed to check some guys and can be breaking into new Marius. Thomas, your deepest deep threaten will fuller is now out for the rest of the season with that ACL this Denver team can cover this. Denver defense can give you some issues and Houston cannot run and they cannot protect and those are issues when you face. Von Miller that Houston offense is going to be humbled a bit this weekend. You can book that surprise a friend or a loved one today with the bouquet from one eight hundred flowers dot com. When you order a dozen multicolored roses for only twenty nine ninety nine you'll get another dozen plus a vase absolutely free. Go to one hundred flowers dot com slash ESPN, somebody who needs some flowers. Good Lord might be JR Smith now JR Smith has been. A sort of lovable character over the last few years with the Cleveland Cavaliers LeBron James until last year's finals. He had been the guy that we think of as the cavalier would want to celebrate with shirtless. JR Smith running around having a good time. Well, it is not all sunshine for JR Smith after LeBron James departure who yesterday came out and was very pointed in his desires talking about wanting to be traded now from the Cleveland Cavaliers are you hoping for a trade? Have you expressed that to? First and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and ESPN app. And our Adrian wards ask reports that the NBA will consider whether Cavs guard JR Smith public acknowledgment Thursday that he wants to be traded constitutes a final offense under the terms of collective bargaining agreement. Man JR Smith God God love him. But this is the most JR Smith outcome of this event possible. I call it. A lot of the bad portions of his Cavaliers tenure Knicks JR Smith finding his way back into the light the New York Knicks JR Smith that so many people lamented and when him to Maan Shumpert were dealt on their way out to the Cavs people said, good riddance, and then had to watch them. Both get a championship ring, which I'm sure was great for everyone in New York to watch and process and take in there, but for JR Smith, it was a lot of talk about his rehabilitation of an image going from DM slider to a father and a husband and a guy who who seemed to have a little bit more together. Than the wild child. We had seen in the past. But now it's become a much different situation and one that our own stand Van Gundy talked about yesterday was sage Steele on sportscenter. Well, I think I got to come together. They've got to come together ownership and Kobe open and decide on direction and where they're going. They decided they weren't gonna play their veteran guys then Tyler Plato now they've made a coaching change. I mean, this thing is in total disarray. And you gotta decide what are you going to do with JR Smith? What are you going to do with Kyle Korver? And then are you building around Kevin love or you breaking it down starting over. I think for all of us who watch the league there's a lot of confusion. Nobody knows what they're trying to accomplish here. And they've got to be very clear on that before they go anywhere else. I last year on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. JR Smith is fifteenth years thirty three year old man making just under fifteen million dollars a year hasn't played more than twenty minutes in the game and his averaging just two and a half. Points and one rebound with two years left on his current contract. And you know, what honestly what's happened with JR? Smith is he's in a situation that stinks right now your best player just left. Your coach got fired. You're not sure about the future for the veterans on this roster. Like, STAN just mentioned there and JR is watched around the league recently as players of flexed and tried to force their way out of certain situations. And we heard about all these back channel things with Kyrie Irving. Trying to get his way out of Cleveland the other year and everything that's gone on with Jimmy Butler now and JR forgot that you gotta play the game JR came out. And just said, yeah, I don't wanna be your players are not allowed to make public requests for trades. We remember Eric Bledsoe. The guards former Suns guard was fined ten grand for tweeting. I don't wanna be here which could be open to interpretation of a lot of things JR is removed. The interpretation JR's gonna get fined for this. And it's because JR forgot that you've got to play the game. You've got a massage this a little bit JR forgot that you've got to be a little nuance. But this is sort of the lovable JR right is the one that just goes out there and acts impulsively JR that doesn't know how much time is left in finals game. That's it manifesting self in a situation. Now where JR also gets the microphone when the Brian James is there LeBron James is getting the microphone you're deferring to the best guys on that team. And for so often the structure that team dictated JR Smith wasn't going to get a lot of airtime. Besides the championship celebrations and him being shirtless and all these good things. But now that it's you and Kyle Korver an injured Kevin love JR gets the Michael little bit more and the situation is not fun anymore. This is the Cavaliers team that happened when LeBron James left the first time in JR Smith didn't think he was going to have to go back to that. Didn't think this is going to be the life that he was left with and now he wants out, and he forgot that you've got a back channel this JR Lee someone forgot to coach JR up on the exit strategy. And now he's going to get his wall. Light and a little bit in the process. It's about as on brand is humanly possible for a guy that's been a major league character in the NBA over a number of years. And last podcast. And last podcast dive here this morning from one oh four point five ESPN here in Baton Rouge sticking around this weekend to check out Alabama at LSU on Saturday night in death valley. Golick a win goes down here yesterday. We were at walk on in Baton Rouge getting ready for this one. We had a chance to talk to coach ordure on in person. You'll hear from had a chance to talk to Nick Sabin the Alabama head coach on the phone heading up to this game. And you could feel it already. We were down here on Wednesday and Thursday, and you could feel this place starting to live up Friday and Saturday certainly holding a lot more to come in there. You can tune in to college football action tomorrow as Duke battles Miami presented by Goodyear. Coverage begins at six thirty pm eastern on ESPN radio ESPN radio dot com and the ESPN app, and there's some other matchups that we can get to eventually there are some other portions of college football, and the NFL that are both going to provide some really interesting games because after last night. We desperately need it college football game. It's an interesting one last night UCF going toe to toe with temple and being able to hold them off despite a game that lacked any defense, and then of course, in the NFL the best thing that came out of Thursday night football last night, because let's be real last night Thursday night when the prime time performance, we're looking for San Francisco taking on the Oakland Raiders, they beat them thirty four to three would Nick Mullins. Yes. The Nick Molen that one that, you know, so well, the two thousand seventeen undrafted free agent from southern miss Nick Mullins went out there and was the star of the damn show throwing three touchdowns two hundred sixty two yards and getting the win in his first NFL start got a text from Brett farve to start the day. But last night was a lot more about what you did. Instead of watching the game because let's be real. We watched about as much as we had to. And then we turn that off Allie. What did you watch instead of Thursday night football last night, parent trap? It's a great pick the great see you went with the timeless classic. We appreciate. I went out on a limb. I'd never seen it was flipping channels and decided I would see what all the hype was about with paw patrol. Hear a lot about that one lived up to it. Some amazing dogs doing some amazing things in that show. So you can let us know at ESPN radio at willow junior. Fifty-seven what you did instead of Thursday night football. Because while there was a question about that. There will be no question about what you are watching Saturday night. And that is no disrespect to my all modern Notre Dame who will be taking on northwestern in Evanston at seven fifteen eastern on Saturday night. But Alabama LSU is a game that needs no introduction and for head coach or drama. We talked to yesterday on goal can win. Go really need to be a whole lot of raw going on from him. This very motivated bunch. I thought we could've played on Monday. You know, some things like that. You gotta boldly them and you'll feel the energy, but the energy within about team has been fantastic. All we let them let them go the way they want to go. I know one I have to team up when I don't have to fire my team. I haven't had to do it yet this legal problems person. Last Michael junior here on ESPN radio the ESPN app, man. I hope you got to hear the majority of our interview with coach oh yesterday because that's just a coach or John is just main pure unadulterated football. He is what happens if you were to boil football down like a metal and get it in its purest form coach is pure football ages. He doesn't turn it off. We got to talk to him before he came on set with us, and we got to talk to him a little bit after and it's the same guy and all those phases. None of that is an act. None of that. As a forced answer far as you could tell with coach, oh, this is a guy who just lives it. And for this team. That's what you would expect in a rivalry game. Like this the magnitude of this kind of game because LSU is a team that absolutely no one is giving chance they're going into Saturday night in one of the most feared environments in college football. And we talked to Greg McElroy former Alabama quarterback yesterday who mentioned that while volume wise, the stadium is loud. But there are other loud stadiums in the SEC the. Timid ation of being in an environment where the stands go straight up around you. There's a live tiger outside of the damn stadium. And a bunch of angry fans ready to come in there and tell you you know, what you've got to manage all of that leading up to this game. And in this case understanding that it's a one vs three matchup in college football. That's going to decide your playoff fates very early in the season, relative to when we get to the actual playoff now for Ed order on a company that team has been battle tested and some big environments already. Obviously, they have the loss on their resume to Florida. But they've got a win over a highly ranked Georgia team on the resume early in the season primetime matchups with the university of Miami to start the year off Auburn on the road. Obviously those teams didn't end up being as good as we thought. But those are still primetime matchups games. You've gotta get up for where the intensity just gets ratcheted up around it you heard coach order on. They don't need any introduction of that this week predicts Abe and the Alabama crimson tide. One point he made yesterday was clearly the hardest portion of their schedule is coming up now for this group. I feel like we've done some really good things this year. But house of there's things that we can do a lot better. And I think we've on play gets much better competition start Saturday, but really for the rest of the team played against or coming up next person last here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app you look at Bama schedule. Louisville Arkansas state addle miss Texas, AM, Louisiana, Lafayette, Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, like it has been a schedule that Alabama could not ever sell. The anybody is difficult Texas ain't Emma solid football team. But Alabama also give them credit has beaten. The absolute breaks off of every one of these teams in the way, you would expect when you read that schedule now down the stretch you've got at LSU this weekend. Miss homers. Mississippi State the by week against the Senate, Al and then Auburn in that. Obvious rivalry game to finish off the year with the iron bowl where anything can happen. But it's an Alabama team that has gone on operating a lot of people I will like in this as I do most things to Notre Dame where Notre Dame number four in the initial rankings. And I heard our own Chris Feliks a number of other saying this is bad news for Notre Dame. They've got the best win arguably in college football right now against Michigan. They're undefeated and they're still only checking in at number four, but their schedule is just not difficult enough to justify and there have been some close games against teams like pit that shouldn't be that close. If you're a team that wants to compete at this level the difference. Valla Bama is their strength of schedule has not been up there so far. Now, these are a bunch of good not great teams in most cases. But when Alabama goes out and dominates the way they have in that schedule. You arrays any doubt about the preparation of your team about the firepower on what they're capable of. And when we get performance at quarterback. In a place that we are not expecting it. Now Abam that's position. All the sudden we look up and say, well, we assume they've got everything else because Alabama's brand is giving them that the benefit of the doubt their past performance has given them that benefit of the doubt over such a long time period that we look and say we assume defense we assume running game. And now they've got a competent passing game. Now, they've got weapons all over the outside. Now, they can be unstoppable. So despite what has been a schedule that is lacking in a game that really jumps off the page at you. There have been performances that indicate that this team if you put them in front of him they are going to mow them down. They are just not not going to just win. But they're going to win so badly. Their starters won't play in the fourth quarter. Now yesterday, we also heard from one of the players now. My maybe one of my most underrated players in college football guy that does not get enough shine. And when you're watching this week, and I promise you Damian Harris the Alabama running back. We'll factor prominently in the outcome in one way or another that guy first game of the season last year blocked a punt in the same game that he rushed for a touchdown. Does everything the crimson tide running back? He joined herbstreet and Fitzsimmons to talk about this rivalry. And what it means to these guys should that's what the game is about you know, to absolutely dominant physical teams as she sees toughest conference in America going head to head and one of the biggest games in college football. I mean, you can't really get really put it into words. You know? It's just one of those big time games. One of those almost a rivalry a few. You know, they don't they're saying don't like us are fans on like them anytime we played so there's just a hostile environment. And you know, like you said it's one of those knockout fifteen round fights incredibly physical game. 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The Cowboys' Woes, Sarkisian's Surprise, Nick Mullens and All Things Week 10  | The NFL Deep Dive Podcast

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The Cowboys' Woes, Sarkisian's Surprise, Nick Mullens and All Things Week 10 | The NFL Deep Dive Podcast

"On July fourth two thousand nine former NFL quarterback Steve McNair in his mistress Jenny Kazimi were found dead in a Nashville conduct. The police included the Jennie had killed McNair in a murder suicide, but was at the whole truth. The genyk is aiming really kill Steve McNair. I said there's no way that Ginny would pull that off from Sports Illustrated fall of titan available now subscribe on apple podcasts or every get your shows. Time to panic over this Cowboys offense of look at Dak Prescott and company heading into the Sunday. Neither Billy plus how got hot whether the charges are for real charac cards inter in Oakland, and like everybody loves Nick Mullins. It's all of Yemen. TV NFL Dodd podcasts. Hello. And welcome to the m Huby NFL. Deep dive podcast. I am Gary gramling is Andy than we have some week ten games to discuss Andy. And we're starting with the Sunday night or the NFC east clash, and this is I think this was the story of the week now that we sort of moved on from saints Rams and people celebrating cellphones. And and Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady and all that stuff. I feel it disorder that most carried through was panic button for Dallas Cowboys offense. What's wrong with the Cowboys offense? So I will start this discussion. This Cowboys at eagle Sunday night game. What is wrong with the Cowboys offense? Well, it's the the big answer to that's been the same all season long. They're not very good wide receiver. Now having Amari Cooper does help he played well in his debut, but we've discussed on this show. I don't think he changes the entire dynamic don't toe crystal. And I said that entire dynamic of the receiving core. So I think you start there. The offense of line hasn't played quite as well. But I'm not worried about the old line. And when you put on their film, you don't think it's a battle line. You just don't see the dominance that you saw for years ago. But Gary we might as well save some time. What this discussions going to come down to is the feel the theoretical conversation of what kind of offense should you build around Dak Prescott? And maybe the question before that is are you sure Dak Prescott St. long-term answers because Jerry Jones brought that up this week that they're gonna extend him. So they're going to build around on. They consulted him on the Cooper trade. I heard I think we need to start there and all on the same page, certainly. Dallas need to be on the same page about what they have at quarterback. Well, what what do you think they have a quarterback deck Prescott? One of a handful of really interesting quarterback decisions that need to be made. And we've talked on this show quite a bit about how once you give that quarterback second contract. And if you give quarterback has contract a big contract these guys outside of Tom Brady don't play for discounts. James Winston in Tampa, Derek Carr. You saw at happen with him in Oakland. Marcus mariota title have decision on him. I mean, we have we have some decisions to be made here. And once you once you marry one of these guys, you're. You're stuck with them. And you're limited with the way you can build around him. You are and Prescott to me is we need to get past this idea that being a game manager of that. That's a pejorative. We need to move on. And understand that we're talking style of play when you do that. And I think deck Prescott can be a really really high level game managing quarterback, and it good sense. And part of being a gay manager is making the occasional big play. And with him. It's going to be big plays with his legs throwing off of movement or just flat out running. But you've gotta have an offense that's conducive to that. The idea that you're just gonna have dropback passing offense. And let Prescott worked the field. He's not that kind of passers not talented of a passer. And he's not that decisive a passer he is a smart field general though, when it's a highly schemed offense and when you're getting him building off of their running game. A little surprising. Their running game has not been more foundational. I guess this year if you if you were to describe it it's hard to envision what their key. Running play has been this season. They don't quite have the same identity in their ground game. And that's what's hurting their passing game. They do not. I think you look at the passing game. If you squint you can kinda see Michael Gallup, Amari Cooper that something for the future right there that you can build along with the with Dak Prescott at this point. I do think and look when teams play in big national games like the Cowboys did on Monday night, and they underachieve, and they they lose at home to sort of a middling team, though, I think Tennessee has a much better defense than they are basically given credit for at this point. But you look at this game. I mean, look they had Dak through banner inception the red zone that that happens that take seven points of the board. They miss stay. They missed a short field goal. The obviously, you know late. They had to go for a a fourth down and turn it over and down. So it I don't know if that was necessarily the kind of disastrous. Oh my goodness. We need to make wholesale changes type of performance from this offense that everyone's sort of treated it as yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't think it was it just the they had some unfortunate poorly time bad moments, and they paid a price for it. But the bigger picture to me it still comes down to the wide receiver situation in how are you going to play with those wide receivers and that becomes attack Prescott conversation because he's got to be a tight window thrower to play with those guys. They're not great separators. And he's not his style of play. He's he doesn't have the gunslinger mentality which is. Ah positive with him. I think because of because of the mobility because of the facilitator nature of his game. So then the question becomes is that enough does that work for you at quarterback? And I think for a lot of teams, Gary the answer would be no we need more than that. But in Dallas where you have Zeke Elliot who is in his prime, and you have an offensive line that though not as dominant this year's pastures. It's got a bunch of superstar guys in their primes. So I would think Prescott fits remember just a few years ago when they were that dominant running offense Prescott looked like the next great thing is rookie season. I think that's the formula. They have to have. And there's just not a whole lot of overlap to their run game in their past gains. You don't feel like you're watching a highly schemed off into when you turn their game on. Yeah. Yeah. They they go to Philadelphia now a year ago around this time the Cowboys just sort of all fell apart for them. They they have the. Chaz green versus Adrian clayborn game in Atlanta that was the first of three straight twenty plus point losses for them. The second of those three losses was at home against the eagles. And this was one where I mean, it it really fell apart in the second half. They were up nine seven and a half time and blues in that game thirty seven to nine. But when it comes to the eagles off excusing the eagles defense. It seemed like the Cowboys are just not a great. This is not a great matchup for them. I think if you're gonna if you're going to capitalize against the eagles, defence you. You want to be able to attack them down field where their weaknesses? No, Rodney McLeod back there questionable Cornerbacks. I don't know if that's the that's the recipe for the Cowboys to to win this game on Sunday night. No, I agree with you. But we're those corners are most vulnerable is against double moose, and it almost feels like a cliche like, we're just hey, I'm jumping on that bandwagon and saying too, but it's remained true. Especially in the case of Jalen mills. Double moves Travis carried the Browns corners raiders corner. At that time he taught me this at training camp. And I actually did a drill against him. Because he he demos on me Gary demonstrated how to do it. And I almost fell down tripping over myself on the on walking through it truly. He was very crafty. But he said, I if you're a slow player slow wide receiver as a cornerback. What's the last thing that you want to see for me, and he said a double MU? Move because that's stuff really the double move doesn't come down to speed. You don't just do one fast move. And then another fast movement run by the guy. There's a nuance in a setting it up to it. And it all comes off of a bigger picture and usually comes off of a run look. So that stuff is available for Dallas in Gallup has had some success on that earlier this, and in fact, yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. He had no a big one against Washington. Yeah. I'm trying. Thank you. Remember who was against? He had a big down the left sideline. I remember. That was I want to say it was Fabien Moreau, but I will try and look it up just in case. All right. Well, full service here look at you. I think could be completely wrong as well. I don't I do know is the Washington game, though, the point is Gallup's not burner though. So it's you don't need dynamic receiver. Sorry, again about saying dynamic a-n-o-n-m-u-s most you don't need them though to run a highly schemed, offense and run double moves. Now, what you do need to do is be willing to run the ball, which a lot of teams are not against Philadelphia. And I'm sure Dallas they should be and they will be because its strength on strength their offensive line burst their defensive line, and you would never back away from your own strength and just to avoid the opponent strength. It was a apologize to Fabien Moreau is Greg Stroman, the rookie who has been lately, and we should we should know the eagles. They're actually going to they'll probably be without Sidney Jones also probably gonna be without Jalen bills in this one. So you're out this game. Yeah. You're digging even deeper into that into. That secondary at this point. So. That's that's interesting, Gary because mills although he might be because we just talked about the weakness and mills the guy that Darby's been vulnerable to double moves as well. But mills is the main guy, so you're replacing him with the lesser corner that lesser corner. Who who do you think it'll be Maddix plays the slot? So restore Douglas, probably maybe I mean gotta figure that out. But that guy might not be as vulnr- vulnerable to double moves. So which in Dallas is cases, not a great thing. They probably I bet you they wouldn't mind seeing Jalen meals out their preferred see mills. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's a think you need to be willing to take those shots though against Philadelphia. Because what you said is exactly right. Even with MacLeod out there still playing very aggressively with their free safety, they're bringing him down. And he's playing shallow. Three robber is what they call the coverage. It's cover three, but the safety's more of a robber who jumps the middle of the field. No matter who you have it wide receiver. You've got to be willing to attack defense plays that aggressively. All right. Let's let's go to another game here. Let's let's go it Lanta at Cleveland. Andy, would you please? Join me on the. The recommissioning of the Atlanta Falcons bandwagon. This is a team that we all sorta gave up on now they won three straight. And now, we're kind of rethinking this thing. Again, we talked about this a little bit on Monday. I don't wanna get too far ahead of ourselves. They do have a a tough schedule down the stretch here to to get back into the postseason. But obviously, they are they're going. Well, right now and guy we really haven't talked about this season. We talked a lot about last season. We talked a lot about him back in week. One is is Steve's are Qizheng. This offense is just they're clicking much more effectively. And you're seeing a lot more alum, more creativity. It seems like this year. Maybe start teasing has put a little more of his stamp on this offense with what they're doing. He's done a nice job. And let's look at their Washington game as an illustration because they went in and beat a pretty decent team team with a very good record on the road in Washington's building we talked Sunday night about how the Redskins are run defense has been so good, but it's been more against gap scheme running teens teens feature pull blockers and related concepts. And Atlanta is more of an outside zone. Running team. Once I put on the Filner, Gary what the falcons did in that game was more inside zone running which is a departure from outside zone, of course inside zone. Just picture. A couple of double teams at inside and someone working off the double team to the linebacker level. And it was a really good approached by the falcons because the Redskins are one of the few teams in the NFL that play what they call an e. Even front meaning their defensive tackles, very often align head up on the guard as opposed to between the garden tackler between the garden center. They align over men not in gaps and those double teens become more effective against an even front sometimes. And I would imagine. That's why did it. That's good coaching. And that's good adjustment on the fly. And you've got to have the right personnel to be able to do that and offense of line. That's relatively cohesive running back in quarterback that see things the same way. 'cause you're installing a different approach in the ground game on the fly. The other thing they did very, well they kill the Redskins man coverage with stack releases and bunches and switch releases all the man beat or stuff that we talk about all the time. They did that. And it even worked in some of the Redskins moved zone coverage on third down later in the game. And the stuff even worked against that. They were very good on third down again highly schemed off into there. But not skiing in the way that you're dependent on it. Let's remember they got good player. Two they have Galvin. Ridley they've got Muhammad soon. They have Julio Jones and Austin Hooper makes some plays from time to time. So I am very intrigued with the falcons in the second half of the season. What'll be interesting is Cleveland does not have as many defensive tendencies as Washington. So what will that do for their game planning this week, and I feel like Cleveland necessarily has to pull back a little bit. I know. Well, if you'll snow miles GARRETT'S complaints Cleveland was trying to get a little more and bishops with some of the things they do. And I think they had to pull back a little bit last week with the Greg Williams taking over the interim head coaching role there not to mention they're going to be missing Denzel ward in this one. So the thousand's heavy pretty significant advantage. Basically with their weapons against the Brown short handed and and pretty youthful secondary. This point. One other one of the thing I did want to mention from from the falcons side of this for we get to Brown's off. Enter quick Bruce urban comes in. I mean, he's a guy who I don't think anyone surprised that the raiders. Wanted to move on from him. I guess I was mildly surprised that there was zero interested in him on the on the trade market is he still a guy am I crazy, Andy? Or is he still a guy who can be sort of a situational? A handful of snaps game type of presence off the edge. If certainly no longer a, you know, a sort of star number two type edge rusher like used to be. Yeah. And that's what he's being the number two type of rusher. His production. Does not always match his raw talent. I do think. It's a good move for Atlanta though, especially because it gives them the flexibility now to put tack McKinley inside. And there have been times this year. He's played whenever he goes inside. It's almost always on the side that Vic Beasley line. So they put those two men together. And McKinley at times has shown really good explosiveness as a power rusher inside. And he's got the power rushing explosiveness on the edge as well. But I. Would imagine you'll see McKinley inside and Beasley has to play outside and urban play outside. And now you've got some firepower in the past. But we're also talking about three talented guys that don't consistently produce. And you still have that issue when you put it Landis film on if they're to go anywhere in the second half of this season. Those defensive ends are going to have to be playmakers for them more consistent playmakers than they've been certainly in the first half of the season. And Browns Brown side of the ball. We talked about this a little bit on Monday. Bigger Mayfield said they add basically scaled back what they were doing offensively. They tried to focus on a handful of plays in concepts that they like and going forward like that. Did you see any difference between what they did in that game? What's what's a pretty mediocre chiefs defense? Yeah. There is a huge difference in that. They ran the ball out of base personnel a lot, and I to be honest. A little surprise the did that that was the game plan. So they did throughout the first half. I'm a little surprised just because my guess is Mayfield is more comfortable out of three receiver sets. They've done most of the season with them as any team would. But I think especially in his case against their opponent. Last week. Kansas City Kansas City has struggled in run defense against three receivers sets. We talk about that all the time. There are better run defense in base. So the Browns tried to line up and just smash mouth in they had. Okay results here, and there they did some nice things with slant flat. Route combination. To the boundary. So just one guy run into the flat and the slant creating a natural rub. That was obviously the passing concept they were most comfortable with. So I may feel they obviously scaled back. Jury's still out. We have to see I mean is scaling back. And then there's going rudimentary. I think you've gotta find the happy balance between those two. All right. Let's go. Let's go with chargers at Oakland. This is a charger seen that we haven't really revisited in a little while. But they you know, they have a five game win streak going here. What's your sense overall of this team at this point anti before we drill in on some the specifics here is this team better than it was a year ago? Are we going to see a repeat of last year where they kind of they do have a tough schedule down the stretch here. This is not part of that tough schedule. But they still have to go to Pittsburgh. They have to Kansas City is this is a sort of a. The the analogy I always uses is the quad a hitter in baseball, you know, the guy who can who can hammer sort of AAA minor league pitching. But when he gets the majors can't quite can't quite handle. The best of the best is that would this chargers team is going to end up being again this season. Everybody says so because that's what they've been before. But I don't think what they've been before carries as much weight as what others would think, and I could be wrong about that. I liked the way their piece together their offense of lines better than people realize which allows them to run their entire playbook. They found their run game identity. Melvin Gordon on gap scheme runs, very good at setting up MandA, ma'am blocks, we know what Philip rivers can do. These got a bunch of really big athletically gifted targets both outside and inside. So it's an offense that can score thirty points any given week, and they didn't do that against Seattle. Actually, we're not great against Seattle. And they still got the win because I think their defense is a tick better than it was a year ago. What I'm really interested to see? We don't know of joy both is going to get back for one and that could influence what about the say here. But I wanna see what they do at Derwin James in the second half of the season. He's a box safety right now. They blitzed early in the year. Nobody had an answer for them. That's not their identity in Los Angeles or not a big blitzing team. Although Gus Bradley has expanded their schemes over the last year and a half. I think you have to be that kind of defense. At least you have to be willing to sprinkle it in eight to twelve times a game if you have durin Jane's, and that to me is the expecter. I don't think they're good enough to just lineup play. I think they need to make teams fear them schematically James is the guy to do that with. Would you would you envision a Gus Bradley defense doing that? I that seems to be pretty far away from his over the years. Yeah. It is. But he again, I think he's drifting away from his MO and a healthy way. I think they have they've shown this stuff. That's why that's how we know chains is so good at it. Because they did it early in the season James is an absolute monster. They didn't look maybe it was a function last week. They played Seattle just run based offense most run based offense in the NFL. In fact, maybe that's part of it. Although I would think you'd be even more willing to blit your big strong safety in the run game. So I I wanna see what they do. I would I would be more versatile with Derwin James and be more be trying to become more of a play making defense if I were them. Yeah. I was gonna say on the side of the ball. I mean, gosh, the run game is just dominant this year with with Gordon and then often sprinkled in here, but you look passing game. We kind of wonder what was going to happen yono hunter Henry they did bring back into gates, obviously. But he's I mean, he's he's not. He's not what he was three or four years ago. But between Keenan Allen. And then those those two guys the Williams, Mike Williams and tyrel Williams. I mean whenever we spoke on Allen. And you get one of those Williams's downfield is like a six four mismatch target. I mean, that's a they are turning a ton of big plays this year. Absolutely. I think Mike is better insight entire ELS better outside gates now plays on third down passing situations last week. There were still times where he drew the double team. Now, it's usually on third and short because he's such a good underneath receiver this point. But defense is still respect him within the context. He's very good within the context of LA scheme. So that's part of it. But they have guys at win fifty fifty balls. Like, you just said the Williams guys. And then Eker women talked about Travis Benjamin eckles gotten so good that he's wedged Benjamin out. But they've got the ability to go horizontal on you in quickly get the ball in the perimeter receiver screen. They're very good there as well. This is. This is a high pedigree offense and the guy running it. Do you think Philip rivers? I don't think he'll be thought of this way. But do you think there's a legitimate discussion to be had let's say his career ended tomorrow is he the best QB to never have won a Super Bowl this. Or is it still Dan Marino's time now has has to be Marino. Is up. Do you put I think we've discussed this before? But obviously time has passed and things have happened since then. Do you put Philip rivers in the hall of fame? Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes. Going to when he's done. He's going to have top five all time passing numbers. Top five. Think about that. Top five. Yeah. No I- discussion. Yeah. Franker is gonna be the fourth leading rusher of all time when he's done to me that's default hall of fame. Yeah. I I'm with you on that. So on by the way, it's not an back this week. Someone did ask about Frank gore. And and why Frank gore doesn't get enough press. At this point. I think you'll Risi hasn't gotten enough press recently is because he's played on. Pretty say. The dolphins are bad team this year, certainly it's not it's not exciting offense. They're running and then he was on scene last year. So let's let's be honest. Everybody loves Frank gore. But he's not a great interview. And I think he would even tell member we've heard stories where we've had people on staff interview 'em. And they say you don't have to run if you don't want to because he just isn't just doesn't. He's not a great quote. That's why it doesn't get the press. Should should have some hotter? Takes than we talk about. It more. The reason I'm sharing that by the way because the PR staff that told us that Frank doesn't care. He's cool with it. Yeah. The the Leslie I want to mention from this game. Obviously, the raiders are looking ahead. This point what do you make of Derek Carr at this point, though? And in regards to what like how our retaking the guy in regards to obviously the trade deadline has passed. So he's not going anywhere at this point this off season if the raiders wanted to shop, Derek Carr one would there be interest? And I guess too would would that be foolish? I think it would be foolish. I think there would be interest there at car has a great quick release. He's compact thrower. He's run different types of offenses. And he's been pretty expansive in it. He can work at the line of scrimmage, and he's mobile if Derek Carr were entering the draft mixture he'd be a surefire first round pick, the only complication. It's a big one though is the contract, and is he worth as much money as contract calls for. But. Yeah. But there are a lot of teams that are willing to live with that at quarterback quarterbacks cost what they cost alternately. All right. That's gonna be. It's gonna be a raider. Yeah. Do you think you'll be a Nick year at this time? Boy, it's tough. We got us sort out the the graph class. I there's obvious. There's so many teams who are going to be obviously bad teams don't have quarterbacks often. So there's gonna be teams looking at this quarterback glass. It's not a quarterback class like last year in that. I think everyone was fairly comfortable saying those those four guys were top half of the first round picks. There's there's a group of quarterbacks. I think there could be four or five go in the first round. But I don't know if you look at any of them and say like, oh, yeah. This guy. This is the guy who's top ten. It's going to be one of those things where one or two then we'll go top ten, but I don't know who you would look at and say this is Dan pick. And let's also remember the car contract. We think of it. We think it's huge. Because at the time it was, but a lot has happened since he signed that deal Kirk cousins, for example, his cap hit in twenty nine it's going to be twenty nine million dollars in the cash out of the contract for him is twenty eight million. That's a lot of millions Derek cars cap capit- and twenty nineteen going to be twenty two and a half million with about twenty million in cash involved. That's a huge difference. Two thirds of what cousins cost so car is not the expenditure. Now that that we think of because the market has changed since he signed his deal. And that would help is that offensive line blocks someone that it'd be helpful. If they're sorta. Chantel sorted out there tackles are terrible playing terribly and their interior line is having the worst season that it's head. And it's a pretty good group assembly. Who actually had some nice snaps Rodney Hudson who's been pretty good and gave Jackson right guard. But collectively it's been inconsistent. It's not a good situation the old line there right now. And I don't think it's just a players. Yeah. If if you're wondering about Andy's cryptic comment. You can check out this week's deep dive column go about two thirds the way down. Let's go. Let's go one game. Read read the front of it. I don't just skip down to the read. What I have to say come on now. Yeah. Read what read what NASA, but don't give up when you're don't think you've missed it or something in the first half where he's talking about. Maybe that's it was out non quarterback MVP's this year. Maybe when people think they see no raiders offense lineman in that top ten they'll be they'll be ups. Fair or no. I got I got sensitive. You're right. The let's go the Monday night game that that is dick Mullen show coming up. We're this is giants at forty Niners. Obviously, it's not a great game here. But Nick Mullins is I guess worth the while. It's free to watch it if you have cable, so there is no price of admission, but Nick Mullins is worth your time. If you want to if you if you want to spend some time with this game, obviously, look he put up impressive efficient numbers against a raiders defense that as we've talked about is not terribly talented. What was your first impression of Nick Mullins here? Andy. My first impression was I love the offense. He's playing I love the way they help out their quarterback. I lo how they use Kyle used check it who's the most valuable fullback. I've seen in a very long time. George kindle, I love the way they play out a base personnel. Fullbacks running back tight ends. And it's extremely doozer friendly and look Mullins responded. Well to that if you think that we've just stumbled into hidden Jim of a superstar. We don't know that the jury is they haven't even left the courtroom yet the twelve jurors filing out the door right now. So we're a long ways off I do like as thrower. I do like Nick Mullins motion is kinda got that Derek Carr. We just talked about the quick snappy officiant release, and that's a big deal. Garoppolo has I imagine that something Shanahan really values. That might even be why Mullins is on the roster. So I see why people are excited, but let's not it was just one game against a. Very bad defense on a short week and a very well schemed offense. Let's keep it at that for right now. Barron up. It was also on national TV, and he had a he had a nice moment with the emotional interview afterwards. So yeah, I appreciate that. He cares. That's pretty cool the ratings. Did you see the ratings for that game? Because I was eager to check him. 'cause I figured okay. This will tell us the baseline for an NFL game. Whatever the minimum that NFL game is likely to get least on Thursday. This will probably be near it. Although the raiders Niners both kinds of national brands. So it's probably a little bit more than a an AFC south baseline game. But did you see what the ratings were? I did not see the rings. But I would before you tell us. I would have guessed the previous week's game the dolphins at Texans would have gotten lower ratings. You think so to Shawn Watson JJ watt, and I don't end the raiders Niners coming with two wins between them. Well. Now, I'm trying to the team brands are better in the second one. You do have a lot of people play fantasy and have Shawn Watson and deandre Hopkins. I don't know if there's a single player in that forty Niners raiders game who anyone would have played in a fantasy league. Maybe George kiddle. That's about it. This game was a blow out to that impacts the way they measure the rating yet impacts. That's true. That's true. But was raining the game. It was an eight point two. I actually I'd I don't know. I don't know give me the context here. Andy. What do you mean, the context is that is that surprisingly good? What what is that compared to the that's higher than I would've guessed? I would've thought it'd be a six. Yeah. All right. What patriots Packers the night was like fifteen point eight or somebody who's almost sixteen. I think if I am not mistaken. I was I was pleasantly surprised it. Now, it did not outdraw the big bang theory, which is a great commentary on our country. But it it came close. And usually Thursday football does win. I will say this is one of the few times where you know. No, big bang theory is not for me. But if it's for you, I don't think this game was going to pull you away on Thursday night. What do you think the Monday night ratings will be then giants are a bigger brand. But I think people who aren't giants fans probably are sick of them. They're they're boring. If you're not a giants fan. It's ESPN. It's not FOX ESPN. I see I'm having trouble doing this, Andy without the context of having the spreadsheet in front of me with the rest of the money and ratings on it. I will say I will say the Monday night game will do. See people people want to watch Beckham people wanna watch saquon. So I'll say do like a slightly more than than what Niners raiders did on a Thursday night. I will take slightly less, and we will bet one year salary on it like we all right? That spreadsheet I should have somewhere. See how many millions only at this point. You did you want a couple back though? So we're getting close to even last thing before we open, the mini mailbag Dez Bryant is a member of the New Orleans Saints, and you've been I mean, you've said, yeah, I'll say you literally said Dez Bryant is kind of done. He he's a number of claymore. He's a number four wide receiver. He'll replace Cameron Meredith. He might get number three snaps because in their offense. There's a little there's room for that. They don't ask the same thing. They're slot guys because they have Alvin Kamara they have Michael Thomas. I am blown away. I guess I'm not. But I the number of people that are treating this like Dez Bryant twenty fourteen signing with the saints. Do you really think if Dez Bryant could still play he was just sitting out there waiting to be signed in early November by somebody? I. Can't believe how many people are treating this. As a anything other than a very small move by the saints, which is what it is. I'm treaty in that way. So I don't have an answer for you. He's a name he played in a very popular market for a very popular team. That's all I got. He doesn't run willing more which does fit their system. I'm not saying. I mean, I guess I'm saying he can't we can't play. If you think that's what you're getting. If you think this is a big Super Bowl type of move for. It's not that. It's not even not even remotely close to that. There are no big Super Bowl moves left. The trade deadline's over in the guys were any good or all on bras. There's nobody sitting out. There is going to make a difference off the street free agency now, so it's just filling in the blanks. Cameron Meredith really doesn't run very well anymore either. He looked slow and sluggish. She's had some knee problems. So they're finding someone else. Another guy was slow and sluggish but they're hoping the little better at it slow in Saugus. That's the that's the strategy with those sub package receivers in New Orleans. Andy, we got a couple of mailbag questions here, which we neglected a week ago because we have the trade deadline special. This first one is specifically for me from Greg on Twitter. Gary would you explain more? About your love fest with dirt cutter on the podcast falcons fan. I don't have fun memories of him playing. Stephen Jackson over devante Freeman and his un-imaginative offense in general. He seems very rigid in his approach. I mean, look I'll concede a bit of that. Although I think they are built to do what they do offense which is throw the ball downfield, and that complements sort of an old school power running game that they have there in Tampa. So I think the I think he has built the proper offense for the talent in Tampa at this point. And I think it'd be quarterbacking was was a little more consistent you'd get better results. The main reason I like dirt cutter, and Andy you can you can you can weigh in after this. We get you know, we go out on the road. And we we get a sense of what's going on at training camps. And and that sort of thing the reports that always come back from Tampa is just that he is Dirk cutters. Just he is he's organized. He is he is on the ball. He knows what he is doing in that sort of that needed CEO role of that head coach needs to fill as sort of the organizational leader for his team. And that's what that's what our people have come away very impressed with there is a coach who perhaps ran a team in the NFC east here in the northeast who may have lost his job in the past calendar year who I remember people coming back and saying I didn't look so good. But everyone seems to be quite impressive with what dirt cutter does from from a leadership Sam point and from from an organizational standpoint the way he runs that team. I think they have the right offense, that's his forte. I think their defense is the issue there. And I, you know, I don't know how much you can put on maybe he should have pulled the plug on Mike Smith earlier, they do have a relationship. So that was difficult decision. But I I like him. That's it. I think he's a good coach. I think he understands the politics of being a head coach. And I mean that as a compliment because politics are real deal with the media's real dealing with ownership all of it is true. And you have to be able to handle it. If you can't you're not gonna last no matter how good of a football guy. You are. And we've seen that happen to other men. So and I like I like his scheme as well. I've liked it more in pastures in this year. If I'm being honest, but it's not John Phillips said this to me once Gary that the Vikings offensive coordinator, I was peppering him with questions about this play in that play and how you're going to do this. And he said, you know, anti plays just plays. Everybody's got plays. And they all work on paper. You don't draw them up to not work. It's the way you teach them in the way you approached the job, and I so. Yeah. I like his scheme, but like everybody as long as you have an identity, and there's a consistency to how you play theoretically just about every scheme has its merits. So I I think cutter passes that test. Yeah. And the last thing I'll I'll just come in on Greg's question here. The playing Stephen Jackson Dante Freeman I don't get too worked up about that. I think especially when it comes to a veteran and a young player. Sometimes case of you know, this guy is a complimentary player, and we trust the veteran more than the young guy. And certainly we've seen over the years, and I won't bring up the horrible memories that that at length fans might have of that certain game a couple of winters ago. But devante Freeman is not knows consistent guy when it comes to pass protection that might have played into it. Sometimes you have a proven guy who you know, what he's going to do what he's giving you and sometimes that earns him, you know. You know, basically more playing time over over over a more talented younger player. And I think it happens with every coach everywhere. And I think it's tough to get on a guy for that. I mean, Bill Belichick played Bill. The patriots gave Drew Bledsoe a ten year one hundred million dollar contract. The year before he got hurt which tells you they were they were not going to go to Tom Brady anytime soon, even though Tom Brady ended up being the greatest quarterback of all time. I don't think that makes you think any less of Bill Belichick as a coach because of that decision. But that's my first conversation I ever had with cutter in this is our positive relationship. I've learned a lot of football from him. I asked him the time. He had Jackie has them. Now on the roster. Again, jock was Rogers hunter was the offense coordinator in Atlanta. And a lot of people are saying jock was Rogers should play more. He was dynamic darned dynamic again, I did at the end of the show, but he was a little jitterbug out there. He could really move and make people miss, and I said why? I asked him. Why doesn't jock was Rogers play more? And he had this kind of a wry smile, and he said, you think he should play more. And I said, no because you're choosing not to play them, in coaches know, their players better than anybody on the outside does. So there's obviously a reason he's not on the field and cutter. He I think he stood up out of his chair, Gary. He was so impressed with my wisdom at that moment. He was he was about that though. Because we forget that these coaches that decide we're playing Stephen Jackson over. Devante Freeman there in the meeting rooms every day with those guys they've got infinitely more information than we do. So instead of wondering why isn't a guy he can wonder why is any plane more? But that's yes, you should do is wonder why isn't he playing rather than banging the tables and saying he should play more? Because not to say coaches are flawless either the other night member. Did you hear the Sunday night game? Dennis L in the Vikings saints their D coordinator for the saints admitted to the Sunday night crew. Yeah, we probably should play Marcus staff. Import more defensive end. Sometimes it's coaches you fall in love with the guy who knows what he's doing. And you don't give the guy who maybe doesn't a chance to develop. So it's real. But it's that's for Dennis Allen. The that's not for us to say. Yeah. No, look, it's a it's a fair criticism because that's kind of the opposite of what we're saying this point. But. It's fair to be skeptical. But you have to understand that, you know, the guys making decision generally have more information doesn't mean, they're they're right. All the time. It just there are reasons. No one no one looks at a guy and says that guy would be would make our team better. But we're going to keep onto bench. That was a terrible summation of this whole conversation that that will give us a chance to move onto the next question. This is Raphael from Brazil. What do you guys things the best scenario for a successful NFL team in the postseason being in a very strong division, like the NFC south or being way above the other teams individuals the patriots and the ram seeing the saints brutal remaining schedule I get the feeling they'll either be really banged up by the end of the regular season or steamrolling everyone after surviving a stretch with games against the eagles falcons Steelers and Panthers twice. I look. I think this has been something of an advantage for the patriots over the years in the way that they treat the season as a process, and we're gonna we're going to get better as year goes on. I think they have that leeway built in because of the division. They've been in the fact that they just haven't had competitive teams in that division. They gone in pretty pretty confident that they can play with two or. Three games and and still win the AFC east. That's my thought on it. Yeah. I don't get into this whole schedule strength scheduled thing. I'm not saying it's not real. But like that question to me a good question. But the question to me about while they they beaten up on bad teams. Will they be ready are they grinding out wins? What does that mean for the place that to me is more of an NBA question? We're basketball's a fluid game. And it's not scheme dr- as as scheme driven. And it's not as game plan driven football is such a tactical sport. I think each week is its own game. And I think the strength scheduled the NFL when you get to that level gets overblown because of that. So I don't I don't know how to answer that saints question. Didn't I say in the Monday podcast that I don't want the by week. What do you buy week? Oh, I don't want to take. I would take the bye week in the play. A why would you not want the bio eek you get? If you're going to win the Super Bowl you're gonna have to win off by week. So why would you not take the free playoff win? I know that rust and rhythm type thing I to me gets having. Hiving back. It's overblown as well. I can't remember. Why said I'll stick with it though because I can't back down now. No that would make you a coward. And we don't do that. And media in America. That's not how American media works. I will just say I thought we had a really weird show on Monday morning. And I think it was because at the time change the daylight savings. Yeah. I I told you how much I love, and I still love it. Because what happens now is I feels like it's late. And I I put on another side of the ball. I get done watching a side of the ball on filming. Oh, man. I I don't have time for another one. And it's it's it's still early it just feels late. I think this light savings thing is just extraordinarily. I went on and on about it last week though. Yeah. No. I listen to the show on Monday. And I was like God. What what why would I say these things what was going on? I struggled with it. Yeah. Sure. Right. 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