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Appeals court rejects Trump challenge of Pennsylvania race
"President trump's election campaign suffered two setbacks Friday in the effort to challenge Joe Biden's victory at the polls in Milwaukee county Wisconsin a recount requested by the trump campaign gave another one hundred thirty two votes to Joe Biden Joseph R. Biden Pamela D. here is received three hundred and seventeen thousand five twenty seven his campaign attorney is Christopher Mueller the board cancers found no instances of fraud by any voter or by any election official trump paid to have the recounts in Milwaukee and Dane counties which is still counting in Philadelphia a federal appeals court rejected a trump challenge to the election results based on unsubstantiated claims or fraud one of the judges a trump appointee wrote that calling an election unfair does not make it so the president can appeal to the U. S. Supreme Court Jackie Quinn Washington
Trump Announced Pardon for Michael Flynn in Thanksgiving Eve Tweet
"That that retired retired Army Army General General Michael Michael Flynn Flynn should should never never have have been been prosecuted prosecuted a a presidential presidential pardon pardon President President Trump Trump has has officially officially granted granted a a full full pardon pardon to to his his former former national security adviser, Michael Flynn. Saying in a tweet. I know you will now have a truly fantastic Thanksgiving. I think he's a hero of the general back in 2017, the retired Army general pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Despite that, the Justice Department led by Attorney General William Barr, moved to drop its own case. Suggesting Flynn was entrapped into lying when interviewed by agents. Skylar reporting Flynn thanking his supporters and family on Twitter tweeted God bless family
Trump pardons former national security adviser Michael Flynn
"Observers have long expected President Trump today wiped clean the record of former national security adviser General Michael Flynn. President Trump has often made clear how he feels about the prosecution and conviction of his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn. I think he's a hero of the general Today. He did something about it. CBS is Natalie brand President Trump announced on Twitter that he has granted a full pardon to his former national security adviser, General Michael Flynn. Flynn tried to rescind his 2017 plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller on charges of lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials. Larry Sabako is the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. It isn't a surprise because Flynn, in Trump's view, was the victim as much as he Woz of the Mueller investigation, the investigation into the foreign events that resulted in several convictions of people. Close to Trump. I'm Wendy Gillette. The pardon drew quick condemnation from the head of the House Intelligence Committee, Burbank Democrat Adam Schiff talked to KNX. It's another terrible abuse of power by the president. He came into office acting like an organized crime figure, and he leaves office in the same way. Determined to use his power to protect and reward his friends. Those who lie on his behalf. And still seeking to punish his enemies, so another true to form action by the president. But another body blow is well to the rule of law shift points out that the president himself said he fired Flynn. Because he had lied to the vice president shift says he expects more pardons to come during Mr Trump's final weeks in office,
Trump pardons former national security adviser Michael Flynn
"Observers have long expected President Trump Today wide clean the record of former national security adviser Michael Flynn. President Trump has often made clear how he feels about the prosecution and conviction of his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn. I think he's a hero. With the general Today. He did something about it. CBS is Natalie brand President Trump announced on Twitter that he has granted a full pardon to his former national security adviser, General Michael Flynn. Flynn tried to rescind his 2017 plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller on charges of lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials. Larry Sabako is the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. It isn't a surprise because Flynn, in Trump's view, was the victim as much as he Woz of the Mueller investigation, the investigation into the foreign events that resulted in several convictions of people. Close to Trump.
Trump pardons former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI
"President Trump doing something that he's hinted about. For months. He's granted a full pardon to his first national security adviser, one of the first casualties of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation. Jordan comes three years after Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian ambassador. During the transition from the Obama administration. This past May Attorney General Bar sought to drop the case, saying Flynn's lies were not material to a legitimate counterintelligence investigation. The court was suspicious of bars motives and appointed a retired judge to evaluate the request, who then accused the Justice Department of a gross abuse of prosecutorial power. All that drama ends with the president's pardon announced on
President Trump pardons Michael Flynn
"Now part of his former aide, Michael Flynn, which is a reward to Flynn for being loyal. Amber Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI way knew that he was having these phone calls it was supposed to be having he got fired after only being in the administration for the 24 days. Something like that. So which is, uh, to Scaramucci is so Flynn is is gone. And then the Miller investigation kicks up and they're like, Oh, well, we got Flynn. I mean, he was lying to us. So then they used him for Basically the kind of leveraged him in order to to bring out more information. And then all of a sudden, the Justice Department said. You know what? Mueller? Let's limit the scope of your of your investigation. You can't follow the breadcrumbs to anything else that might happen, so it just turned into a real You know, just a real mess. You know, Flynn was supposed to be Sentence. The Justice Department said to the judge. We want to drop the charges dropped the charges. He just pled guilty. Yeah, but we don't want to charge him. And the judge said, No, That's not how this works. So how any of this works? And so that was that was being hung up in court, and Trump just came outside. Dad. He's off the hook. I worry about the trump phenomenon. Not because of Michael Flynn mean Michael Flynn will score some gig with some, You know, Trump pissed. He's got too much money in some industries somewhere, whatever. Security consultant. International affairs, blah, blah, blah. I'll get something Worry about the trump the trump phenomenon. We had a gentleman who called us earlier in the show, and he was He was sort of the same mind set is I am And that is It's not Trump It's It's the playbook that Trump is writing, or rather resurrected from past leaders, not American leaders. Here. You've got a charismatic Well known figure. And I mean, he figured if we blew up the world of politics in United States, but he tapped into what is a psyche that we've seen play out historically. That ends up hitting neighbors against neighbors and races against races and it divides the country into the haves and the have nots even further, and he knew this. And he used it to his advantage, and he got rid of anyone that was willing to challenge his power like John Kelly. Like Rex Tillerson, who somehow ended up looking like a good guy by the time that he was done James Mattis, Dan Coats Sally Yates, who I just mentioned selling, it's got fired because she wasn't willing to Theo defend them. The Muslim ban Right? Uh huh. Trump eventually filled his inner circle. With under an unqualified loyalists. He was He was trying different people along the way. John Bolton ons. I make the best hires Bolton. Get him out of your fire That guy because even these people Who Were power hungry enough to take jobs with Trump. Couldn't compromise their own morals so much that they followed him. He finally is able wrapped himself up in people like Manoogian. Who are Willing to do whatever it takes. To do whatever he wants. And then he wouldn't play golf. The president's schedule was
Kayleigh McEnany said Trump wasn't given an 'orderly transition of power' in 2016.
"Of Kayleigh Mcenany. I think it's a longer tape. It's like two minutes, right. I want to give Kayleigh mcenany the floor for one of the most comprehensive and should be viral clips. Of exactly how Democrats have been treating President Trump the last four years play tape. Talked about and identify the real potential for fraud with mass Valin voting also something that I would notice just we talked a lot about transfer of power in the election, and it's worth remembering that this president was never given an orderly transition of power. His presidency was never accepted. In fact, before theologian his election we know Crossfire Hurricane was launched by Peter struck to pursue a baseless allegations about the president's ties with Russia. That's before he was president, trying to subvert the will of the American people we know. In August, Peter Struck, wrote a text message about an insurance policy. Against a trump presidency once again, trying to silence the voice of the American people on in 2016, you know, in October that there was a five a warrant if ISA warrant taking out to spy on the Trump campaign And the American people spoke, and they spoke commandingly in electing President Trump. Despite all of the odds and what happened after he was elected, you had 70 lawmakers say We're not coming to his inauguration. Democratic lawmakers you had Elizabeth Warren saying. We're going to attempt to obstruct the trump transition by urging the Government Accountability Office to investigate the incoming trump transition. In January of that year. You had President Obama have a by the book meetings. Where they talked about the Logan Act, using that act to go after Lieutenant General Michael Flynn just before the inauguration, you had Buzzfeed promoting and publishing this bogus Steele dossier that's been widely debunked. I'm in for two years. You have the basis. Mueller investigation, which search for collusion, found none and exonerated President Trump
Democrats ask Supreme Court to delay arguments in Mueller grand jury case
"House Judiciary today asked the the Supreme Supreme Court Court to to postpone postpone aural aural arguments arguments in in the the case case concerning concerning former former special special counsel counsel Robert Robert Mothers Mothers report report at at issue issue redacted redacted grand grand jury jury testimony testimony on on Russian Russian election election meddling meddling and and Donald Donald Trump's Trump's response response back in 2016 all he's arguing that with Joe Biden taking over his president and a new Congress in January Newly constituted committee will decide if it wants to continue and try to get those documents.
What Trump Might Do With His Remaining Weeks In Office
"Decisions for their last weeks in office, writes my guest journalist Garrett Graff, he says, so imagine what might happen in a post election period when Donald Trump, a president who has spent four years demonstrating his lack of interest in norms and practices of a democracy. Retains all the powers and authority of the presidency and officially has nothing left to lose. In an article on Political magazine graph lays out some of the norm busting actions Trump may take in the days remaining in this presidency graph wrote that article just before the election. Since then, President Trump has broken other norms by refusing to concede the election. Making baseless allegations of widespread voter fraud and pursuing legal challenges. Trump is also standing in the way of a smooth transition by blocking President elect Biden's access to the funding allocated for the transition process and blocking access to classified information, such as the presidential Daily briefing. It was supposed to be granted to a president elect. Paragraph also wrote a recent article in Politico magazine about what Trump might do. After leaving the White House. Graff is a former editor of Politico magazine and is a contributor to wired. He's written books about Robert Mueller's 10 Years FBI director A history of the secret bunkers built to protect government leaders in case of nuclear attack and an aural history of 9 11. He's also the director of the cyber initiative at the Aspen Institute. Our interview was recorded yesterday. Paragraph Welcome back to fresh air. Thanks so much for having me, Terry. Let's start with a couple of the what you consider most norm breaking things President Trump has done so far to interfere with the transfer of power. The biggest one has to just be the simple fact that he has not yet accepted the projected winner of the election being Joe Biden. This is A very different situation than we faced in 2000 with the Florida recount. The state victories across the country are definitive, their decisive And Joe Biden looks like he's actually on his way to a comfortable victory in the electoral College and the fact that now more than a week after the election Donald Trump has not yet accepted that he's not yet given permission for Republican leaders to accept that and not yet given permission for the U. S government to accept that is deeply worrisome. There's a second level of his norm, breaking that we are already beginning to see which is one of the things that I had speculated about before the election. Which is widespread firings of senior government officials housecleaning if you will, among top national security and intelligence leaders. In a way that is worrisome from the National Security's perspective amid a transition. We've never seen a president in a lame duck period like this. Fire. For instance, the defense secretary and this is injecting Ah lot of uncertainty and instability into some very key American institutions at a moment where you are already facing uncertainty and instability and made a presidential transition. Attorney General William Barr has given federal prosecutor's approval to pursue allegations of quote voter tabulation irregularities in certain cases before results are certified. But, he added. In terms of investigating voter fraud, species speculative, fanciful of far fetched claim should not be a basis for initiating federal enquiries. So what does that mean? Because you could argue that all of Trump's claims about voter fraud, our species speculator, fanciful or far fetched? Yeah. And on the one hand, it seems a little too early to know whether this bar memo is just sort of bluster and performative Tioga give Donald Trump a little bit of cover as he Carries out these, askew said. Sort of species, the court filings and court arguments around the country around voter fraud, all of which have been turned aside unanimously by courts across the country state after state. And there is indeed no evidence of any widespread fraud and certainly no evidence of any fraud anywhere close to the level of the victories that we are seeing. Joe Biden pile up in states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia. At the same time, though, there is reason to be worried that Bill bars memo might beam or than just hot air just a few hours after Hey, issued that memo. We saw the head of the election crimes unit at the Justice Department resigned in protest on But that's a That's a worry some statement by someone who is presumably in a good position to know what Bill Bar might be trying to do with that memo. But we haven't yet seen any evidence of that bar memo appearing in court across the country in investigations carried out by the federal government. Marquess for the
Georgia secretary of state says there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud
"Georgia ordering a hand recount of every ballot during last week's presidential race. Georgia's secretary of state bread reference Burger telling ABC News chats are gone. So we have a verifiable paper ballot and so on. It will say Who your selection is for President wasn't President Trump Was it Vice President Biden and so it's very obvious who the vote was. And so you just really go through this. No, the about paper and just, you know, Looking Count Joe Biden as a 14,000 vote lead in Georgia reference burgers, saying they have a goal of being finished by November. 12 with the RICO Georgia has yet to find any evidence of widespread voter fraud. Wisconsin's
Trump campaign says new lawsuit seeks to stop certification of Michigan election results
"Biden has a substantial lead. CBS NEWS White House correspondent Steve Important, a federal lawsuit filed overnight. Michigan accuses poll workers in that state's largest county of harassing trump poll watchers and blocking their ability to observe the counting the campaign says, Since it's observers weren't able TTO meaningful, Lee Monitor the counting in Detroit, an unknown number of ballots in Wayne County should be reviewed and counted again. But Joe Biden's lead in Michigan is close to 150,000 votes nearly 15 times the margin president Trump had over Hillary Clinton, who never challenged Michigan's vote count. The Associated Press meanwhile, reporting Republicans are grasping for ways to reverse. Biden's win in Wisconsin despite
Vatican: Pope John Paul II ignored abuse claims to promote McCarrick
"Report report on on the the disgrace, disgrace, former former archbishop archbishop of of Washington Washington says says bishops, bishops, cardinals cardinals and and Popes Popes within within the the Catholic Catholic Church Church downplayed downplayed or dismissed reports for years that Theodore McCarrick was a sexual predator. Earlier We spoke with Washington Post Rome bureau chief Chico Harlan, whose lengthy report is now online. We talked about the news that Pope John Paul the second knew of the claims against McCarrick nearly two decades before McCarrick was removed the allegations and in kind of a telling way. Are more specific when you're talking about what was being discussed locally among the priests and bishops, and then they got, you know very systematically sanitised. They reached their way up the chain. You could see that page by page in this report. But enough reached John Paul, the second in 1999 and 2000. There was some I'd say I'd call it a protracted discussions about whether my character their next job is archbishop of Washington. And it was clear of that point to John Paul that McCarrick was sharing beds. With young men with seminarians, and at least it was, it was clear that there were allegations about that, and John Paul would have also been made aware of Some anonymous letters that had been describing McCarrick ahs a predator. So he went ahead after receiving a testimony written from the carriage himself. Denying all of that and saying that he'd never had sex with anybody. Ah, decided to make the character archbishop of Washington and then and then soon after, Cardinal and we know what happened. Now, how does this report treat the actions of Pope Francis and the inaction prior to him? The frakking McCarrick I'll give you I'll give you an answer you'll hate, which is that I'm on page 1 79, and there's there's about 300 more to go like I can speak to that only based on the summary. Uh, It was like the Mueller reports for Catholicism here, so let's let's see what little parts are hidden away in the footnotes. You know, you can't just take take the first word for it, but Seems to give the current pope a bit of a past framing it. As you know, he'd he'd been assuming that his predecessors had been had properly. Evaluated the Rumors are allegations against the character and the character that point was really not carrying on is active role in the church anymore, so he didn't he didn't take action until A clear allegation of abuse of a minor emerged in 2017, and that led to the character removal from from from service in the priesthood and that ultimately the frakking in 2019. Washingtonpost, Rome bureau chief Chico Harlan 12 44. Whether it's being on the
Pennsylvania attorney general on where the election stands now
"Voters are still waiting for the results of the presidential election. Pennsylvania still counting Attorney General Josh Shapiro. That's the people of Pennsylvania and the American People want answers from Pennsylvania. I can assure them maybe going a little slow, but it's going very, very smooth. The way it is
US election in balance as battleground states count votes
"The numbers nationwide. Right now, Biden to 27 Trump to 13, the popular vote between the 2 68,834,162 for Joe Biden. That's 50.1% Donald Trump with 66,200 for 1,066,240,036 votes for 48.2%. Yeah, This is a tight one. Wisconsin, reflecting that 49.5% for Biden in the Badger State 48.8% for Trump. This is a ridiculously tight race, and it's gonna be days before you probably know the winner. We know that Michigan is going to resume their accounts. Nevada isn't going to be resuming their account until Thursday. Pennsylvania could be at least Friday before we get the results from there. This is not Unprecedented this. It's not like this has never happened before votes are continuing to be counted. It's not like people are still voting. The votes were already cast and made legit before in terms of the timing of when they were received in all that this is just a matter now of going through these reams and reams and reams of absentee and mail in ballots that they've never really encountered before, and you could see it last night. It it changed things. It happened in Wisconsin. Those were laid boats the came in overnight. Took a small trump lead and turn it into a small Biden lied well, and in some of those states, including here in Wisconsin, they weren't allowed to start counting those until seven o'clock yesterday morning, something you think they may want to figure out for the next time, because if this is going to be the new way, whether we vote, this could be well takeaways from covert, as people realise how easy it is to mail in a ballot vote absentee supposed to having to leave work stand in line. Whatever the case may be, you just take care of it ahead of time. You want to smooth out these these things for the poll workers and the network until four in the morning or days and days and days into the future in the country, meanwhile, sits in
Packers formulating plan should injuries sideline kicker Mason Crosby
"Bay Packers Injury report this week looks more like a phone book that an injury report a season high 19 players listed, including kicker Mason Crosby. So who's gonna kick for Mason? If you can't play here's Packer said coach On the floor. That's something that we have a plan for in case Mason can't go. I know the personal department. We always have somebody kind of like waiting in the wings, so to speak, just in case something were to occur cause You know, just with the requirements with with the covert situation, you can't you can't make those quick transactions. Crosby is dealing with both calf and back issues.
Learning the Art & Science of Asking with Mark & Crystal Hansen
"Crystal. I'm so excited to have you on. We can't believe I'm talking to you. This is great. Welcome to the show. Thanks Richard we're happy to be here. We think everybody needs a new level of visger leadership. So world leader to be. I gotTA. Tell you come at a right time. I consider myself a fairly positive guy and I love asking questions. It's huge and let me just say there's two things people have asked me on this podcast is eight years old. And some people when the questions I get asked all the times like well, how did you get these people to come on the show and I said I don't mean to some flippant but I just asked and it's amazing how you know sometimes the big names and Mueller, how'd you get the? It must be impossible I. said you know what I just ask them an honest I didn't know fluff I just straight ask him and it's amazing. How many people? That's a big lesson for me from being entrepreneurial starting this show. So this is why I think your book is so great and I'm a firm believer but I gotta be reminded myself. I I have I have been. As we all are in challenging situations but reading your book, and of course, your stuff is so inspirational in. So powerful, it's been personally for me. Your your work has been meaningful for many years. So it's it's an honor to have you on the show. Well. Let's talk about that the. Why do you think book? So important now I mean you were talking Chris before the recording ethos. This book was so relevant for the time. Why do you think that is? What would happen is that we've traveled like you a lot got. You know 'cause you're with American three, million miles on my little button airlines ceased. deadheading. Yeah I'm as we traveled to eighty countries and talk to seven million people what we discover as a wonderful people, smart people, professional people, likeable people but the difference Richard between not cut it, and they'll do don is one thing on only and while you're saying it seems easy most. Key to their destination, and that's why we did the book title ask Exclamation Mark The bridge from your dreams your destiny. We think it's one of the best cupboard ever and a rhythm twin twelve books some pretty and this one's will the happily books but it is is amazing to me that that team impossible that somebody didn't do the laughed somebody didn't try to go deep by what we did is. When. We're doing self exploration. We said look when we've had a problem, the way we got out of it every time we asked our way out in in what we did is we do the full research at the universities of Stanford Harvard Cambridge and they said asked is as revelatory in an illuminating and we interviewed twice a thick asks for it just unfolded as one more extraordinary glorious projects. My Life I'm thankful there's a landing in bottle or a second time. As so awesome I. mean the power of asking the right questions and how we do it and I love how you go into I really would like to go into the the seven roadblocks because. So many of those resonate with me and even fighting myself even recently you know like. How I reframe the question. So where do we WANT TO START I? Mean there's so much. We want to dive into what do you think is a good place to start in in diving into this material right? Well, I think you know. Want to start out as as children because when we come into the, World Richard were all born with innate ability to just ask in is such a beautiful thing and it's a thing that serves our growth exponentially everyday. We come in got to know who, where, when, what, how, and we also WANNA ask for more more more constantly right children are unashamed in there asking. And then starts to happen. You know whether it's the way we were parented away. What happened school our jobs and just basic life rejection that beautiful ability to ask crushed out of. US. Yeah. Start to feel almost ashamed that we don't have all the answers we feel ashamed to admit that we don't have answer. So we just stay quiet You know we feel like posing on someone or were afraid of rejection and so instead of asking which opens every avenue we just we stop and we stay stuck in whatever situation wherein and it's just it's really south our goal is to wake up. That beautiful spirit of asking that we were all born, right
Walmart sues government in pre-emptive move ahead of expected opioid lawsuit
"In an opioid related case, Acting to be sued over opioid prescriptions, WalMart sued the Justice Department and the Drug Enforcement Administration, arguing the agencies are placing pharmacists and pharmacies in an untenable position. Wal Mart anticipates a lawsuit over claims it's pharmacists filled opioid prescriptions that should have raised red flags. But Wal Mart said that leaves the pharmacist to decide whether to accept or second guess a doctor's judgement. WalMart said the D a should not be allowed to outsource the pharmacist, the regulatory job it has failed to do. Aaron
Senate Judiciary Committee approves Amy Coney Barrett's nomination
"Voting on Amy Cockney Barrett's Supreme Court nomination. It has now been sent to the full Senate for confirmation this after the Senate Judiciary Committee did so now it was. There were some issues technically, if you listen to Democrats did not show off. Mr Lady Who's a boycott there, Mr Durbin, so they did not vote. But even still, she has now been passed through the Senate Judiciary Committee donation will be reported favorably to the floor. With the unanimous so senators now plan to convene a rare weekend session for procedural stuff. And then a final confirmation vote is expected
"mueller" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"So to be clear. Mr Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs with what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously with our position is. I'm not aware we're almost any of those. Activities are have been called a surrogate at a time material in that campaign and I didn't have I have communication with the Russians and what do I have to get involved with Putin for have nothing to do with Putin. I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about her mother than he will. Respect me Russia. If you're listening. I hope you're you're able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing so it is political your communist know Mr Green Green Communism is just a red herring like all members of the oldest profession Emma capitalist hello and welcome to Muller. She wrote I'm your host. Ag and with me today Jordan Coburn hello and Amanda Reader Hello and this is the final episode of our special coverage of the redacted Muller report. Wow yeah yeah wow nineteen weeks crazy. That's fucking a lot of time. It is a lot a lot of time and a lot of roads but well worth the coverage. I think this will definitely live on into eternity past. You know being able to keep my head alive so tastic. Ask Jab thank you. I'll save all the niceties for the end when it's officially over O. Onnell. Thank you to later but not now. We'll see how you do no. I'm kidding well. We'll be covering sections three and four in volume two as well as the back matter over that a little bit. That's pages one fifty nine to one eighty two plus. It's the appendices and this is perfect timing as we are wrapping up the mole report here at the end of September two thousand nineteen we are now moving into formal impeachment hearings announced by Nancy. NC policy the speaker of the House this week the more investigate yesterday. We had cocktail party. It was good we made a impeachment Rum Punch. It was delicious but the more investigation covered Russian election interference in two thousand sixteen and Trump's campaign campaigns role in that along with the obstruction of justice or the trump Russia and obstruction investigations. He actually obstructed the obstruction investigation but now these impeachment proceedings are focused on trump's interference in the two thousand twenty election had he only successfully got in court it Corey Lewandowski to get sessions to recuse himself to limit the scope of the Muller Investigation to future elections. We might be looking at this but it's it's all coming out at a very quick clip and so now we're looking at twenty twenty election interference with a whistleblower complaint found credible by the intelligence community inspector factor general that trump pressured Ukraine to investigate his leading political opponent in two thousand twenty Joe Biden who's still leading but not in every State no Elizabeth Warren is leading in a few states now yep and I think she's crushed at an Iowa which is an important one to crush it in but indeed we we were wrapping up twenty sixteen investigation and now we're looking forward to the twenty twenty timing right. It really is a beautifully seamless transition right. Now that's happening yeah. Our timing has been really really crazy. We had to live Largo show the day day. The Mullahs report came out. We're going to be in Boston in November. That's right two days address seven after stones trial begins and it's also the same day that we get to hear the Flynn hearing on we know with Sydney. Pal has new crazy lawyer. It's just Ri. Everything is time time so we couldn't have written it better. honestly. I mean we couldn't butter by like not electing trump but yet here we are so in the best silver linings so section three in volume two are the legal defenses to the application of obstruction of justice laws to the president of the United States is basically muller objecting to trump's lawyers assertions that a core obstruction action of justice statute which is eighteen. US Code Section Fifteen Twelve C two does not apply to trump's actions that is trump can't obstruct justice by closing an obstruction investigation or firing the FBI director because of his powers under the constitution so muller concluded this assertion is bullshit and he bases that conclusion on the framework of Supreme Court precedent addressing the separation of powers under that Framework Muller explains here in section three that article to the Constitution does not immunize the president resident from liability for his conduct and going a step further muller asserts that the obstruction of justice laws prohibit the president's corrupt efforts to use his official powers to curtail and or interfere with an investigation and Muller splits his defense of that conclusion into two sections the statutory defense and the constitutional defense so yeah he's variable defense very organized yeah hell yeah so section eight covers the statutory defences to Muller's application of obstruction of justice provisions to trump's conduct and that begins on page one sixty so first muller tells us what eighteen USC Section Fifteen C two states. It says whoever corruptly otherwise obstructs influences impedes any official proceeding or attempts to do so shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years or both about twenty years. I'll take twenty asking. That sounds good to me. and you could find but he doesn't have any money. You'd have to take it out of Prestwick airport. Turnberry so ah you know for future reference if you're listening in twenty-fifty trump has a deal with prestwick airport near turnberry where he's been allowing the air force to stay basically asleep benefiting him personally so this here the counters this whole thing about you know impeding official proceedings or attempts to do so shall be fined under this title title this counter is one of the Republicans main arguments and that's that you must have an underlying crime and that you have to successfully obstruct justice to be guilty of criminal obstruction of justice more. Moeller explains here in these pages that the Department of Justice has taken the position that section to here is broad. It's independent unqualified and courts meaning. It's not you know. WHOA it doesn't rely on other parts of itself and courts have so interpreted it that way particularly the word or in the sentence whoever ever correctly otherwise obstructs influences or impedes any official proceeding or three attempts to do so yeah. That's what he's saying. The verbiage the ruthless gives statute of broad umbrella covering all these obstructive acts right because it's or not and you don't have to do all these things more than addresses the word otherwise in whoever corruptly otherwise obstructs points out that this word otherwise untethered these behaviors from the behaviors in section one and the behaviors and section one fifteen twelve c one say whoever corruptly alters destroys mutilates conceals a record document or other object or attempts to do so with the intent to impair the objects integrity equity or availability for use in official proceeding. I'm looking forward to them using that against William Barr with this whole Ukraine thing hopefully hats me as well and it's untethered to the other kinds of obstruction obstruction basically muller saying you don't have to destroy evidence and attempt to influence or impeded preceding it's just either or and all the language in these sections are standalone crimes under the statute and none relies on the other to be true for the president to be guilty of obstruction of justice. That's basically what Muller's laying out here and in subsection two on page one and sixty two molar talks about the judicial decision that supports his reading of the Law Muller sites about a dozen cases here that support his analysis of the obstruction of justice statutes so he's basically saying the obstruction of justice law is good and there's nothing wrong with it. There's not any holes in it. It's well established. Here's a Shitload of case law and It's very broad. It's been determined to be broad and on page one sixty four molar than sites the Legislative Asleep History of fifteen twelve c. two and how it does not narrow the scope of law either and on page sixty five says the general principles of Statutory Construction Instruction do not indicate the application of the law is incorrect and trump's case so he's he says the law is good and it applies here in this section muller sites case flaw asserting the requirement of fair warning due process and the rule of Leonardy and those do not justify narrowing the reach of the obstruction of Justice Flos so I the fair warning requirement involves the nexus part of the obstruction law you know those three criteria and as we know in order to be a criminal construction you have to have the obstructive act next to an official proceeding and intent and regarding the next piece the court has imposed a nexus test it requires the obstructive act to be connected sufficiently to an official proceeding to ensure culpability so the government must show as an objective matter that the obstructive act was likely likely to obstruct justice and not define it doesn't cover defendants who would use you know means that would unnaturally rim probably be successful so like if trump threw a shoe at muller's car. That's not that's. He's not expecting that to be able to impede an investigation especially if the windows those were up you know so objectively it has to make sense objectively has to make sense and then additionally the second part. Here's the government must show subjectively that the actor contemplated completed a particular foreseeable proceeding the fact that the government has to show those two things alleviates the fair warning concerns because showing both of those things ensures the conduct has a close enough connection to existing or future proceedings to implicate the dangerous targeted by obstruction laws so fair warning basically means a law must must define an offense with enough accuracy so a reasonable person would understand what conduct is prohibited that they're crying so muller is saying that because the government must prove approve nexus objectively and subjectively the statute is well defined yes essentially you wouldn't be being so defensive. If you knew what you were doing was an okay yeah. He's he's basically Lisa. There's enough words in this law for your dumb ass to understand that it's illegal what you're doing right so the fair warning is innate basically yeah it's it's alleviated by the simple existence of the verbiage of the law and then the due process concerns which also requires a lot to be definite enough that ordinary people oh can understand what conduct is criminal. That's offering someone due process and Muller asserts the language in the law that requires the defendant the defendant to act corruptly satisfies the concerns over over the vagueness of due process he then cites a bunch of case law that defines what it means to act corruptly so basically Miller saying we have a very well established definition of corrupt or corruptly as supported by this case law and since we have a definite meaning for corruptly we can assuage the concerns of due process vagueness so these these this Leonardy the law and due process and the first thing what was it the Mer Mer I just we just talked about it. Landy Fair warning so fair warning due process and Leonardy those are all things that could make the the law seem vague but he saying that well defined formulas law the way that we have to apply nexus to illegal proceeding make alleviates the fair warning part and the way that we understand that you know you you're due process concerns or allayed by the fact that corruptibility is very well defined in the law as well and so that alleviates that vagueness. I think it's interesting that he's like attaching in the alleviation of these vagueness concerns within the law to specific requirements in the obstruction statutes freight. Why would he put this in in in less his intentions were anything other than for Congress to take this and do something with it. It's that but it's also to say that because trump's lawyers were arguing that he's above this law right yeah also trying to use a little the quote unquote vagueness or the wording of the law to be slippery and Muller's Muller's like you can't. It's like you're going to try to do that but it's too obvious right you know and and that was born out in the fact that he didn't charge junior with campaign finance violations a regarding the June ninth trump tower Megan's Raya thing yeah because he didn't have wasn't willful and knowing enough to be corrupt and so had he charged him with that somebody might have been able to you know appeal this this on the whole due process.
"mueller" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"All right. Welcome back. We have been going over the time period the romance the honeymoon when trump was saying nice things publicly about Cohen but then Don Don Don John Cho and started cooperating with the government it was July second two thousand eighteen when public reporting revealed Cohen was willing to cooperate he remember he was basically fishing. He's like hey everybody. I'll cooperate with you. I'll cooperate with the government and nobody was really biting remember. He's just come on. I want to tell you he like realize oh I'm so he he was really trying hard. I remember that seems like desperate almost to get a cooperation agreement going after sentencing. He was like that yeah he still is uh-huh he just signed a proper like we talked about the beginning proffer agreement and so he was willing to cooperate he added a lawyer that helped Clinton. That's when he the name's not mentioned here but we know it to be Davis and a few weeks later we learned about the the vote with the voice recording Cohen made with trump about Karen McDougal and he mentioned Weisselberg Darren Kevin which is or Keith Keith Davidson as mentioned in there and then the next day after all that happened trump responded in July inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer's office early in the morning. I don't get that I know 'cause all alcoholics are lawyers almost unheard of almost almost unheard of when they go early in the morning even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client totally unheard of perhaps illegal. It's not in New York single party consent don't in California we have dual part. Can you have to get the permission of the other person to record him otherwise it's against the law but I believe in New York You don't have to tell Tom single-party consent consent to record. You don't need your permission. DC Do a party concerned so anyway totally unheard of perhaps illegal. The good news is is it your favorite president. Did nothing wrong so anyway on July twenty seventh after the media reported Cohen was willing to inform investigators that trump junior told his father about the June ninth ninth 2016 meeting to get dirt on Hillary. The president tweeted so the fake news doesn't waste my time with dumb questions. No I did not know if the meeting with the meeting of my son John Junior sounds to me like someone's wants trying to make up stories in order to get himself out of an unrelated jam taxicabs. Maybe he even retained bill and Crooked Hillary's lawyer Gee. I wonder if they help to make that choice so yeah. His his attitude got a little different after Cohen started operating after Cohen pleaded guilty and accused the president of directing him to make the hush money payments. That's when trump tweeted about manafort. I feel very badly for Paul Manafort in his wonderful family justice took a twelve year old tax case among other things applied tremendous pressure on him and unlike Michael Cohen he refused to break or make up stories in order to get a deal in quotes such respect for a brave man and that timing is important because it was just one day after Cohen made the allegations Asian so this was as much a message to Cohen as it was to Manafort and I think that's why it's in the Coen Section Your Cohen's action seven Chris on September Seventeenth oh that's almost a year again muller submitted his questions in writing trump and he attached Coen's testimony and asked trump to describe the timing if he talked about traveling to Russia when did when did they stop talking about trump tower Moscow. When did he stop you know being involved in Senate whether he directed Cohen to stop discussion about the project according to Muller Trump did not answer the questions I he said I had a few conversations with Mr Cohen on the subject as I recall they were brief? They were not memorable not enthused about the proposal. I do not recall any discussion of travel to Russia in connection with it. I do not remember discussing it with anyone else. The trump organization although it is possible I do not recall being aware at the time of any communications between Mr Cohn and Felix Sater's Russian government official regarding the letter of intent intent sounds like a doctor suess books really dystopia Dr Seuss so that's good you don't books sued on on on it doesn't get better just so you know imagine a November Twenty Ninth Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the trump tower Moscow and the same day trump spoke to reporters and said I decided not to do the project. I decided ultimately not to do it. There would have been nothing wrong if I did do it. If I did do it. There would have been nothing wrong. That was my business. It was an option I decided not to do. I decided not to do so it. The primary reason I was focused on running for President I was running my business. While I was campaigning. There was a good chance that I wouldn't have one in which case I would have gone back to the business and and why should I lose a lot of opportunity. I remember that that's the thing about trump in trump supporters I I don't I guess talk about enough in my opinion is that he actually says says things that are logical on the surface. You're like Oh yeah. Why would you miss out on Monday but then you think about like the Moro vacations that come with being president and like? I don't know why they get skated over a lot. I think with trump supporters are just like yeah. Let them do what he wants and I'm like so but he lied to you for the whole year so morals. Yours is such a hard thing to discuss yes. That's why we're so polarized. There's no one has found. There's no Martin Luther King Junior of our time. They've lately only figure I can think that made like this generational change and when it comes to like I don't no no politically speaking. I can't think of Obama to come close as close but we need him to come back. I know you're taking a break. He's he's doing things he red eye. He's out there. He's instagram but yet no really we do need Obama to come back. Just like missy Elliott for Papa was so good and she still is she okay uh-huh screaming and she was soon. I literally flashbacks naming that chick who she was a little girl dancing yeah she's older now and she's clear I was like whoa times have changed yeah develop opinions and you become an adult just to have an artist Liz. Oh Sing in the way that she's singing show too. I wish we yeah that when I when I was young still her food too by the way her post mates talking. Pardon Pardon Yeah but then she apologized apologized she was like damn I forgot. I'm famous around blast on twitter. I there yeah they sold lizards food on. She forgot her own strength. I'm looking at the end of this this tweet to and it says an why should I lose lots of opportunities. I wonder how calculated that languages because specifically the phrase losing opportunities as something that white white folks like his white constantly is be like harping on old an opportunity cost right will your losing opportunity to black people right or to like Brown people in this country or to Immigrants Eagles and that such a I wonder if that was a smart integration for his messaging he has any team of people doing those sample polling or whatever they do yeah I would bet that was one of those like this well because the message is still comes across and you you could say a thousand different ways but they chose their specific yeah capable of talking points. He doesn't stick to them but every now and then you might catch it yeah yeah he's actually very good at messaging. He'll repeat feet the same thing over and over. How many times have we heard got your back? the boss stay on message and that's behind the scene stuff but to the public you know who's going to pay for the wall Mexico like he's very right repetition Chris rock of politicians pizzas said make sure you get it but I like like that approach for Christmas and so he aside from that with a you know a wash I lose opportunities language which is very astute that you point that out he he also called Cohen a weak person and said he was trying to get a reduced sentence he said so. Here's the story go back and look at the paper that Michael Cohen wrote before he testified in the house or the Senate it talked about about his position. The president added even if Cohen was right. It doesn't matter because I was allowed to do whatever I want during the campaign and again back to the I can do whatever I want on. It's like how dare you infringe on my right to be whoever I WANNA be. That's another thing that resonates with the community and I'm sure we all in the service can resonate with us but we collectively and I want to say liberals but it's a little more Bravo matches rational people people with empathy like we we have this moral compass that connects us in it leans towards words don't be corrupt. I mean it's pretty simple and for some reason trump supporters don't care about corruption as long as their feelings are met so like our feelings and corruption are tied together. You can't be corrupt and like we can't feel good about it. If you're a decent person that's kind of how it works so it's like they're a group of non decent people really which is hard to say 'cause obviously I'm biased Samantha insult to them but I can't think of a better way to put it. It's like how many ways the U. Likes. Divide US or point out the differences at this point it's boiling down to the the lack of decency and them being united by that their whole lives have been told to be better and be best in you know be nicer and be more tolerant but they're like fuck you. This is my guy yeah along those lines of what you're saying. I think it's true that you know the idea. he's trying to convey to his base here is that you don't want the others to take away what yours and because they view rights as pie not something that everyone should just have yeah because the way that conservatives is that if you if if you get right to your somehow infringing on mine exactly how he thinks shops employ more bathing Jordan I was going to say Terry. Crews has various as I just to wrap it up yeah. He's a very similar quote that just like summed it up perfectly. He says if you think someone's taken away your piece of Pie just like make your own pie like the world. Is your kitchen like exactly like drones saying waitressing eighteen yeah like that. Whole idea of it's only one pie is what gets people killed? It's like let's just make more. We're creators of some game yeah and I ah I totally think that you're right on that and that's kind of how it started coming across after Cohen started cooperating because in the weeks that followed trump repeatedly repeatedly implied that Cohen's family members were also guilty of crimes and in December one cone was sentenced to three years trump tweeted this is after he gets sentenced for three years none for line to Congress Millerton recommend any time for him he said I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. Those charges were just agreed to him in order to embarrass the President and get a much reduced prison sentence which he did including the fact that his family was temporarily let off the hook as a lawyer Michael has a great liability to me. I don't know what that means yeah. It sounds like a threat and they're not on December sixteenth. The President tweeted remember Michael Cohen is only became a rat after the FBI did something which was obviously unthinkable unheard love until the witch hunt was illegally started they broke into an attorney's office so why didn't they break into the DNC to get the server or crickets office guy and when privilege privilege I know and when trump learned about Cohen's upcoming testimony in January back then he that's January of this year twenty nineteen..
"mueller" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"All right welcome back. Let's hit the analysis of section. I'm Jay as John on page one thirty one and let's begin with the obstructive act as we always do we don't want I I think the reason we don't mix these up Jordan. It has something something to do with what you're saying. The Obstructive Act begs the next which begs the intent and so I think that's Kinda the order and that's why he put them in this order smart smart fella see so so the president's actions towards witnesses in the special counsel investigation would qualify as obstructive if they had the natural tendency to prevent particular witnesses from testifying truthfully or otherwise Hawaii would have the effect of influencing delaying or preventing their testimony to law enforcement so he defines that and with regards to flynn the president sent private and public messages to flint encouraging him to stay strong and conveying that the president still cared about him. I still care she thinks I still care pair. I don't watch swingers the other night sorry so he did that before he began before. Flynn began to cooperate with the government when Flynn's attorney's withdrew from the joint defense agreement with the President Signaling Flynn was potentially cooperating with the government trump's personal council initially reminded Flynn's Council of the President's warm feelings towards Flynn and said that that still remains but when Flynn's Council when Flynn's Council reiterated that Flynn could no longer share information under a joint defense agreement the personal counsel stated dated that decision would be interpreted as reflecting Flynn's hostility toward. I'm GonNa tell on you basically and that sequence of events could have had the potential to affect Flint's decision to cooperate as well as the extent of that cooperation because of privilege issues however we could not determine whether the president was personally involved called in or knew about the specific message his council delivered to Flynn's council so basically we can't check off the Flynn Obstructive Act box because we can't prove because of privilege and this is one of those things were were muller was like people didn't cooperate they plead the fifth they invoked privilege. This is one of those instances awesome because of privilege. They couldn't determine that trump knew about the message that voicemail that dowd left yeah that privilege saves him it did so so the joint defense agreement was the reason why Flynn's lawyer said they couldn't hand over documents to trump because it would implicate the other folks that were involved in the joint defense agreement. We'll win flint pulled out of the joint defense agreement and was cooperating with the government. That's why Flynn couldn't give any information to trump because they're no longer in the joint defense agreement because we're we're cooperating now and we can't tell you anything got it and and so when dowd left that voicemail basically threatening you know you don't want me to tell on you. Let me put put this in starker terms. We need to know what's going on. You have to tell us what you're telling him and he's like I can't tell you it's we aren't joint defense agreement anymore. We're cooperating with the government. It's part of the cooperation deal. Who is he in the joint venture with sorry? I'm blanking and trotting. Oh Okay trump manafort flynn all those fuckers joint defense agreement. Okay got it so long ago yet a long time ago so anyway because of the the the the couldn't prove of because first of all they didn't interview trump and second of all because of you know lying Liars River Bridge Yeah. They couldn't prove that trump knew that doubt left that voicemail for Flynn's lawyer yeah sure he did but they they don't have that evidence so we can't check the box for this for Flynn for obstructive acts but manafort on the other hand Muller reiterates all the things trump had said to the public throughout his indictment manafort indictment trial conviction is guilty plea his plea agreement his breach of his plea agreement we've already covered that in detail and then Muller says there is evidence evidence the president's actions had the potential to influence manafort's decisions whether to cooperate with the government or not muller then says the president's public statements during the manafort trial also had the potential to influence -fluenced the trial jury on the second day of trial for example the president called the prosecution a terrible situation and a hoax and that continues to stay in our country and referred to Manafort the fort as a Reagan Dole Darling who is serving solitary confinement even though he was convicted of nothing and those statements were widely picked up by the press while jurors were instructed not to watch or read the news stories about the case and presumed to follow those instructions the president's statements during the trial generated substantial media coverage that could have reached jurors if they happen to see the statements or learn about them from others and the president's statements during jury deliberations that Manafort happens to be a very good person and it's very sad what they've done to him had the potential to influence jurors who learned of the statements which the president made just as jurors were considering whether or not to convict to require him so because manafort had a trial and there was a jury now you're Talkin Doc and obstruction of justice or obstructive act and changes the game and then Muller addresses the stone stuff but that's all redacted and I particularly think it would ah influence the stone stuff because stone is going to trial and so that is same along the lines of Manafort but Flynn not so much flynn didn't have a trial and we couldn't prove that that voice mail was left that dangling pardon voicemail that trump knew about it so check the boxes for obstructive act for Manafort for sure stone I think but that's all redacted then we're on the next to a preceding and muller concluded that the President's actions toward Flynn manafort and redacted stone appear to have been connected to an official proceeding for all all three dudes so check that box on the nexus for all three and then onto intent muller says evidence concerning the President's intent related to Flynn is inconclusive as as previously noted because of privilege we do not have evidence establishing whether the president knew about or was involved in this communications with Flynn Council from dowd seems seems like if Dow didn't tell his client that he was doing that that that he be disbarred for that but it seems like a big ethical problem you have a whole administration evidence concerning the conduct towards Manafort does indicate trump intended to encourage manafort not to cooperate with the government before manafort was convicted. The president repeatedly stated that Manafort had been treated unfairly one after Manafort was convicted on eight felony charges and potentially faced a lengthy prison term. The president said the MANAFORT was a brave man for refusing to break and that flipping almost ought to be outlawed and at the same time although the president had privately told aides he didn't like manafort publicly called Manafort a good man and said he had a wonderful family and when the president was asked whether he was considering a pardon the president did not respond directly and instead said had great respect for what Manafort's done in terms of what he's gone through the president added some of the charges ages they threw against him every consultant. Every lobbyist in Washington probably does in light of the President Councils pre the president's Council's previous statements that the investigations might get cleaned up with some pardons and pardon would be possible. If the president comes to the conclusion you've been treated unfairly the evidence supports the inference that the president intended Manafort to believe he could get a pardon which would make cooperation with the government unnecessary so here's muller telling US flat out they dangled a pardon that could influence manafort that is the show that that proves tent right Melissa than addresses Manafort's intent in making public statements about him during his trial and says that some evidence shows he intended influence the jury so here we are back on the jury but there are alternative explanations for his statements including he might have genuinely felt bad for Paulie walnuts and even though that's inconclusive Muller's seems to indicate there is evidence of intent to stop Manafort from cooperating so that alone would appear to check the intent box for Manafort then of course we have the redacted part about stone so in summary No the president's conduct toward manafort checks all three boxes his conduct toward Flynn checks the nexus box but not the obstructive act or intent and we don't know about stone. Honestly I think it might check yeah. I think probably checks at least one box. I think checks the nexus I don't know about intent or obstructive act and you know this is y y you know we don't know about stone and that's why the house dams have petitioned the court to get the unredacted report this stuff about stone here and probably one of the things that they want to see and all the underlying lying evidence along with the grand jury material so they can make determinations on obstruction for the redacted stuff like this and once the trial is over and the impeachment hearings began. I assume we will get the answer to whether the president's conduct towards stone amounted to obstruction of justice like I said based on the analysis of the evidence I assume it will trump's statement about stone could have influenced the jury but the obstructive truck at criteria coup seems up in the air to me but the intent on the stone stuff is clear to me. At least I'm guessing we should tell you if you're listening to twenty years from now that since our last installment of this series since part sixteen the House dams have decided to vote on Judiciary Committee rules that match that of the Nixon impeachment and we're about to begin full blown impeachment impeachment hearings although we have not voted on a resolution to open an impeachment inquiry but during Watergate they didn't take that step until after five months of of having hearings so that might be where we're at so that's part seventeen how you feel who good yeah yeah a lot of information even though we talked about so much of it. It's still so heavy yeah. There's there's just some stuff in here that we had wasn't publicly reported like Manafort telling gates don't plead man. We're going to get pardoned but don't use the word pardon right. We haven't heard about that yeah or if it was we missed it so join US next week for part eighteen sections K and l pages one thirty four to one fifty eight does the final two sections before we get to section three and four the legal defenses in the conclusions along with the back matter which has all the appendices matter. I thought about nine year yeah back matter any final thoughts person myself yeah no not really. It's all pretty straightforward yeah. He covers everything pretty. Well Yeah Yeah so just to clarify How many more more Moola reports do you think we'll do? Some people have been requesting. We go back to the book reports. They have like a lot of suggestions. I think we have three more to kgo eight hundred nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine. I think we have three more to go but we may be able to get the last two with sections three four and the conclusions along with the the back matter we may be able to get those all into one episode so we might be able to get get it done in two episodes but three at the most nice I'm enjoying the ride but yeah there's a lot of suggestions. There are so many books that I wanted to prove conspiracy next need to be honest and then you know we also want to release to the public which was only previously released to patrons our coverage of the threat by Andrew McCabe because that is a very pertinent and relevant story at one in these times and that could take a seven episodes will take seven episodes because that's how many recorded if you're not a patron and you want early access to all this ad free daily beans and stuff like that you can sign the patriots dot com slash Miller. She wrote or Dot com slash the daily beans..
"mueller" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"So to be clear. Mr Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs got. That's what he said. That's what that's obviously with. Our position is. I'm not aware all any of those activities. I I have been called a surrogate time material and that campaign and I didn't have not have communications with the Russians to get involved with Putin have nothing to do with Putin. I've never spoken open to him. I don't know anything about him other than he will respect me Russia. If you're listening I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails emails that are missing so it is political your communist know Mr Green Communism is just a red herring all members of the oldest profession capitalist hello and welcome to Miller she wrote and our special coverage of the redacted report. I'm your host. Ag and with me as always always jealous Johnson and Jordan Coburn new. Hey guys doing good good good sweet. Yes all right today. We're GONNA cover volume two sections. I and J pages just one hundred thirteen to one thirty three suppository. Okay welcome back so section I covers trump ordering mcgann to deny that he tried to fire Mueller Muller and section Jay is about trump's conduct toward Flynn manafort and a redacted name which I believe to be Roger Stone because it's redacted for harm to an ongoing matter and stones trial doesn't begin until November member fifth and right now we're in the September twelfth timeframe of twenty nineteen so just so you know when you're listening twenty years from now and when we're on some MSNBC documentary you have have the dates yes. We're two months away from his trial. Yes so let's kick this off with the evidence that trump directed mcgann to lie about his attempts to fire Mueller with section I I of the evidence on page one thirteen beginning with the press reporting that you know trump tried to fire the special counsel that subsection one and on January twenty fifth twenty eighteen the New York Times reported that in June twenty seventeen the president ordered mcgann to have the Department of Justice Fire Muller according to the article quote amid mid the first wave of news media reports that Mr Mueller was examining the possible obstruction case the president began to argue that Mr Mueller had three conflicts of interest that disqualified him from overseeing the investigation Shen unquote the article further reported that after receiving the president's order to fire Mr Muller White House Counsel Don mcgann refused to ask the Justice Department to dismiss the special council saying he would quit instead the article stated that the president ultimately back down after the White House counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive and trump dismissed that dot news as fake then that's one way to put it trump dismissal. I Love Muller. He's like I take your question. Trump said it was fake. The next day the Washington Post reported on the same stuff but they added that mcgann had not told the president directly that he intended to resign rather than carry out the directive to have special counsel terminated aided in that respect the post story clarified the time story which could be read to suggest that mcgann had told the president of his intention to quit causing the president to back down from the order to have special counsel fired tired so those are the two conflicting stories from times in the post onto subsection to about trump trying to have mcgann publicly dispute the press reports both of them on January twenty sixth two thousand eighteen the president's personal lawyer called mcgann's attorney and said that the president wanted mcgann to put out a statement denying he had been asked to fire Mueller and that he threatened to quit in protest mcgann's attorney spoke to mcgann and then called trump's lawyer back to say he wasn't going to do that because the time story was accurate why God Hicks Hicks recalled telling trump that one of his attorneys at spoken to mcgann's attorney about the issue so hope picks back that up that you know they've spoken about the reporting and mcgann told her the article was was accurate and he was going to refute it so now we've got a couple of people saying that mcgann said the New York Times article was correct the following week previous appeared on meet the press and said he didn't recall trump overseeing he wanted to fire Mueller trump called him up and told him good job and then I never said any of those things about special counsel on February Fifth Breath Twenty eighteen trump complained about the times article to Rob Porter saying the article was bullshit. trump said that mcgann it says that in the report Bullshit that's not my a little flair trump said that mcgann leaked to the media to make himself look good the president then directed porter to tell mcgann to create a record to make it clear that the president never directed mcgann onto fire the special counsel porter thought the matter should be handled by the White House Communications Office. The president said he wanted mcgann to write a letter to the file for our records and end wanted something beyond a press statement to demonstrate that the reporting was inaccurate. President referred to mcgann is a lying bastard and said that he wanted a record from him reporter recalled trump saying something to the effect if he doesn't write the letter. Maybe I have to let him go. Oh my God at this point in the report of course it's been confirmed he one hundred hundred percent asked him again to fire Mueller yes but he didn't use the word fire and we'll get into that the next day February sixth Kelly scheduled time from again to meet with him and the President in the Oval Office to discuss the Times Article the morning of the meeting. The president's personal council called mcgann's attorney said the president was going to be speaking with mcgann mcgann could did not resign no matter what happened in the meeting weird and then the president began the Oval Office meeting by telling mcgann That The New York Times story didn't look good now that it was fake. It just didn't look like I'm not a frigging reported. Take it up with them and mcgann needed to corrected mcgann called the recall. The president said I never said to fire Mueller. Yeah I never said fire. The story doesn't look good. You need to correct this. You're the White House counsel and in response mcgann acknowledged that he had not told trump directly that he planned to resign but that the story was otherwise accurate so now mcgann is refuting the New York Times report that he told trump directly he was going to resign but he didn't tell him that directly the president but the president did say a have his lawyer Com against no matter what he can't resigned during this meeting so the president asked me again. Did I say the word fire and mcgann responded. What you said was call? Rod Rosenstein Tell Rod that Muller has conflicts and can't be special counsel. The president responded. I never said that trump said he merely wanted began began to raise the conflicts issues with Rosenstein. Leave it to him to decide what to do. mcgann told the president he did not understand the conversation that way and instead he heard call Rod. There's conflicts conflicts muller has to go the president asked mcgann whether he would do a correction and mcgann said no thought the president was testing his medal to see how you know committed mcgann was has to what happened Kelly described the meeting as a little tents. Oh yeah there's a little tense. The president also asked mcgann sorry I just just had a little tense view of my head. You know how to pitch a tent. All like camping is intensely yeah that kind of cute little the president also asked him why he told Muller's team that the president had told him to have the special counsel removed mcgann responded he had two and that his conversations the president were not protected by attorney client privilege the president then asked what about these notes. Why do you take notes lawyers? Don't take notes. I've never had a lawyer who took notes. Let's Shady Shadier. Fuck voice recordings in McGee. Totally mcgann responded that he keeps notes because he's a real lawyer explained that notes create a record and they're not a bad thing. The President President then said I've got a lot of great lawyers Roy Cohn he didn't take notes and he was totally disbarred. After after the Oval Office meeting concluded Kelly recalled called mcgann telling him that he and trump did have that conversation mcgann recalled that Kelly's he said that he pointed out to that to the president after the Oval Office that mcgann had hadn't backed down and would not budge following the meeting and trump's lawyer then right after the meeting called mcgann's lawyer trump's lawyer called mcgann's lawyer and related the president was fine uh-huh with mcgann so that is sort of the the evidence about this whole creating a false document you know pressuring mcgann and mcgann Dan was going to quit and but apparently what he's establishing here is that mcgann didn't directly tell the president he was going to resign because of this the president knew and I think we'll find that out out when we go over the analysis of the evidence as soon as we're back from a quick word from our sponsor whether you're getting ready to move spring cleaning or Marie Condo in your life which I'm doing because summer is now over Europe probably a lot like me. 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"This junior wanted to add a few words. He wanted to indicate that primarily. They discussed adoptions not just that they only discussed adoptions. <hes> hick said she was fine with it but her but the boss man was worried worried it would invite more questions so she that like verbatim bosman yet that's come up before i marksman yeah interesting and yeah super mambi mm-hmm but she ultimately deferred to junior and his lawyer and the full statement that eventually was given to the times read as follows. It was short introductory meeting. I asked jared paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of russian children that was active in popular with american van was years ago and was intended by the russian government but it was not a campaign issue at the time so there was no follow up. I was asked to attend the meeting an acquaintance but was not told the name of the person that i would be meeting beforehand so here is junior adding in that they primarily discussed adoptions options not only and that he was asked to attend the meaning that way he's not leaving out the emails who's going against that. He's going against the boss ma'am and and him yeah nothing like <hes> oh we discuss dirt on hillary about the ziff brothers and she didn't really have anything immediately and you know whatever at that was totally left out exactly so muller is clear to point out that the statement did not include the offer of dirt on hillary by the russians. Oh look what i just said or any discussion. The magnitsky act for that matter <hes> hicks recalled priebus then learned of the statement and wanted more information because he was sure the emails would leak and trump said no we gave our statements ain't done here and later on that follow that was sharply gate. I don't understand no statement. We're done here. No i know not when it's this late at night when it's something as important as sharp exactly and later on oh by the way if you're listening to this twenty years from now sharpie gate is when trump <hes> the hurricane dorian is approaching its here now in the carolinas but when it was approaching florida he saw a spaghetti map and he decided that it was the the hurricane was gonna hit alabama but the map he was showing 'cause he said that in a tweet it could hit alabama and then alabama was like nah. It's not coming anywhere near here. Don't be a dick shut up and so then he got mad ad and he got caught in a lie or some or just being wrong and so he took a map of the hurricane's path and took a sharpie and drew a little end on it to include the little a little bottom of alabama so that he wouldn't be wrong and now he's in trouble for that too because apparently that's a felony falsifying documents from noaa or the national weather service so anyway super fun good time now they're putting out more official statements on the matter yeah yet they came out and said <hes> one of his counterterrorism guys kids that oh i did did i showed him the the wrong map and that's why he did that or he didn't even say that he did is just that's why he thought it was gonna head alabama. It's so dump soda and it's it's going on it keeps going on and he heaves quadrupling quin toppling insects out sex doubling down gross. I don't wanna know about that would've skipped saxon. Go right to the seven but uh-huh thirteen sounds a romantic. We'll skip sex and go right to the seven so anyway. He keeps doing this and meanwhile the really cool gab would say unexciting seventh erogenous zone from friends. Remember the episode of france one to four two four two four eight two four or five to four five six six six..
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"So to be clear. Mr trump has no financial relationships with any russian oligarchs if that's what he said that's what that's obviously with our position is. I'm not aware all any of those activities. I i have been called a surrogate at the time and that campaign and i didn't have not have communications with the russians to get involved with putin have nothing to do with putin had never spoken open to him. I don't know anything about him other than he will respect me russia. If you're listening i hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails emails that are missing so it is political your communist know mr green communism is just a red herring all members of the oldest profession a capitalist hello and welcome to muller she wrote and our ongoing special coverage of the redacted report. I'm your host host a._g. And with me as always are julia johnson though jordan coburn lou. How are you guys. Hey good good well. Yes i just found out that there's dr paul of political science at san francisco state university. I think it's it's s f._s._u. Who has assigned this series to his his students or her shoes. I don't know it seems like a male energy but i don't know wherever you are on the spectrum. There are students probably safe to say yeah and <hes> yeah. We're now being taught in universities mazing. I know all of a sudden. I was like oh i feel really responsible for a lot of things now and i i think <hes> the tweeted. The professor tweeted back like i can't wait until we get the big dick toilet wine essays. I love it all right cool so now i don't feel so well yeah. I don't know why because i only briefly the tweet and i thought that was so cool but i got female energy arnaud which way is like more or less offensive but yeah my brain just went straight salako. Oh female professor but there's no there was no tell there wasn't a member there being italian and i think for me is because when i was younger most of our professors were men. Oh and i just should be nice. We're on the same page yes so we gotta do more dick jokes and keep. These kids entertained yeah absolutely all right. Yes yes yes jokes. Come and get it okay nice. How are you gonna start yeah. Well great yeah like we're in college now. Yeah it does feel like a crash course yeah yeah it it. It really is and i hope that in the future these like this will be taught as a class just on its own because there's so much to it. They teach a whole class on this stuff. Totally he could write books forever he and he could be like remember how you have to go to college and the professor would make you buy their book for the class like last year lead valueless because so much has changed since then. It's a strange system them yeah well. Today's students we are covering volume two section two subsections g and h <hes> and they include trump's efforts to prevent.
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"Definitely on on the hook not doing something is doing something and a few days later after publicly criticising sessions in a new york times interview remember that crazy interview trump ordered previous to demand and sessions resignation preset bad idea. You'll never get a new agey. Confirmed trump said he would make a recess appointment to replace sessions and previous called called mcgann for advice. What do i do about this one and he told them not to do it and they should consult their private counsel with whom they have attorney client privilege and it's not mentioned here here but we know that bannon priebus and mcconnell the same lawyer named burke william burke and priebus mcgann also discussed resigning rather than carrying out trump's order to get rid of sessions so trump followed up with priebus asking if he got sessions resignation letter previous purposely lied to trump and said he was working on it but he called him later and said firing him was a mistake and trump agreed to hold off and then he tweeted should about him all weekend but agreed not to fire him so real quick. The obstructive act here is the president's effort to send sessions a message such through lewandowski would qualify as an obstructive act if it would naturally obstruct investigation or any grand jury proceeding the president sought to have sessions uh-huh announced that the president should have special prosecutor and that sessions was going to meet with the special prosecutor to explain this very unfair <hes> and and that it was very unfair and let the special counsel move forward with the investigation election meddling for future elections so that nothing can happen in future elections in the president wanted sessions to disregard his refusal which he had followed from a formal d._o._j. Ethics review and and sessions declared that he knew for a fact that there was no russians involved with the campaign because he was there and the president further directed the session should explain that the president should not be subject to an investigation gatien because he hasn't done anything wrong <hes> taken together the president's directives indicate that sessions was being instructed to tell the special counsel to end the existing investigation into the present isn't it with the special counsel being permitted to move forward with investigations in election meddling in future elections so yet chang schick and then next to official preceding as described above by the time of the president's initial one on one meeting with lu in taos ski. The existence of a grand jury investigation supervised by special special counsel was public knowledge so matt <hes> and then intent substantial evidence indicates the president's efforts to have sessions limit the scope of special counsel's investigation into the future elections was intended to prevent <hes> the investigation investigative scrutiny in the president's two thousand sixteen campaign conduct substantial evidence jack jack jack yeah. He's not just like i feel like you're going to need this more later. Worry about me now. Nothing fishy here at all nothing to see here and and <hes> militias the timing and circumstances of the president's actions support the conclusion that he sought the result to curtail the investigation and the president's initial direction that sessions should limit the special counsel's investigation came just two days after ordered baganda have special counsel fired which is itself <hes> which itself followed public reports that the president was personally under investigation for obstruction of justice. The sequence of those events raises an inter inference that after seeking to terminate special counsel the president sought to exclude his and his campaign conduct <hes> from the investigation scope and the president raised that matter with lou danske again on july nineteenth just two d. just days after emails and information about the june ninth two thousand sixteen eighteen meeting between russians and senior campaign officials had publicly disclosed generating substantial media coverage and investigative interest and the manner in which the president acted did provide additional evidence of his intent rather than rely on no <hes> on office channels the president met with lugansky alone in the oval office and the president selected a loyal devotee outside of the white house house to deliver the message supporting an inference that he was working outside white house channels including mcgann who had previously resisted contacting the department of justice about the special counsel..
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"All right onto part f page ninety and this is about trump's effort to curtail the mueller probe and the last section was probably the juiciest but but this is the funniest. I think this is the comedy of volume to it. Actually is really hilarious. I feel like trump was probably super proud of himself when he thought of this dumb ass idea like august what i've got this great idea i could just see him like sitting on the toilet or something like this is going to be the best so basically two days after he told mcgann to fire mueller and i love that muller states that is a fact he just opens up two days after the president directed mcgann to fire me he called private citizen and former campaign chair corey lewandowski to the oval office and asked him to deliver a message to jeff sessions to to limit the mueller investigation to future elections and not the twenty sixteen election. This is one of my favorite new bits of information when this it's so great right <hes> uh-huh and trump followed up with lou douse key like a month later and lindau ski had a meeting with sessions but sessions cancelled it and then lewandowski's left the country for a while but told trump i got i got you deliver your message. It'll be delivered then he ran into rick dearborn and said hey we do this dearborn who was a white house aide at the time he asked him to deliver the message passage but dearborn wasn't comfortable with that and he told lindau sqi. He did deliver the message even though he never did. That's really funny. I got you bro so dearborn. You're born as we know. Recently subpoenaed lewandowski and dearborn brought from the house judiciary committee to in their impeachment in casa awesome. That's about this. I just think it's so funny. Lewinsky said testify. There's no collusion no obstruction <hes> but you took part in it so good luck with that yeah. He thinks he's off the hook because he didn't do anything <hes> but it is kind of doing something if you don't tell someone that's that's what he said also probably yeah i mean he's not in trouble you know right not to a criminal degree but <hes> but that is <hes> at least as far as i see him in my eyes yeah he's definitely.
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"Fire mueller and his efforts to curtail his investigation. I bet these are gonna slam. Dunks do very juicy. Yeah 'cause muller was like hey bro. I'm investigating you fire on me. <hes> trees yeah there. I wonder if if he'd have you can't recuse yourself. I'm the. I'm the main witness in this. I'm i'm interested to see how we sorts it out. Any final thoughts guys know excited for more mullah report. This is actually really cool lake at breaking it down even though we've talked about a lot of these topics before like hashing it out her rehashing it always is nice and i wonder like actually which congress people are listening. Maybe like they should it'd be listening to some of these elision report yeah even like the regular audible <hes> one. I wonder like i don't know hey staffers. What's up yeah yeah. It's really cool yeah. It's fun. I learned a lot and also terrifying yeah. Definitely you know my sad. Feelings are now reminiscent of <hes> the twenty eighteen election when when i was discouraged by the results because i wanted there to be just a ridiculously large wave of it was but because the context of everything like he wants to write because everything else is so messed up in there such a huge hill to climb for us to get back to a place that is right it. It's hard to like celebrate what you just laid out which is a pretty big victory in terms of what he found at least in what congress could take and run with and what another office can take and run run with once he gets out of the president's the presidency but i know you're like oh. It's like i'm losing sight of what's in front of us which is objectively a good thing because yeah because we got forty two seats in the largest <hes> vote disparity between republicans and democrats since and watergate <hes> and we're all like oh man yeah yeah yeah like not good enough because for example where we're at right now because we don't have the senate. We can't go anywhere with impeachment right any gun. Control legislation getting passed nothing's happening. We can't get election security implemented. We can't get i think he's sitting on a hundred and twenty eight bills. Mitch mcconnell and you say when trump gets outta office. It's some people think if he's the first president i can think of where people are like. I wonder if he'll leave like as any other one. Maybe nixon right. No no nixon resigned. Nobody nobody ever thought he wonder right but filling signed finding such at sorry dinner no. You're you're right on point with. I like he's so different from everyone else right. Yeah no one's ever been like such a demagogue yeah or even joked on multiple occasions about a forever president through he's like oh it pisses off the liberals. Just keep telling him trump twenty forever. You know he keeps saying that joke. It's ridiculous ridiculous but i think deep down. He was trying to lube that truth. You know yes one of their strategies yeah we we thought he was joking about buying greenland and then no he was looking serious and he cancelled cancelled as goddamn me right greenland because they said we're not selling you greenland yeah the fact that he's president. That's i will never underestimate him because i thought his campaign was the job i think he i think he likes likes us to not know when he serious when his job it works in favour but then the objective truth going back to the election in this is that we are in a better spot now than we would have been had gone worse which was obvious statement. We're resisting that gives me hope but yeah the world is going through a wave of yeah. All you know boris. Johnson is like or a worse trump and right. We're just got elected. Imagine imagine imagine if muller like didn't or if he never went on lester holt or something just in these key pieces of evidence that led to him being able to write such like a cogent arguments arguments you know trump was smart. Yeah it could be worse trump going to be smart. You might not unhappy right now. I was watching johnson onto actually is like a smart trump because i heard that he messes up his hair on purpose before he goes on stage. I it could be a rumor..
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"We have that thing you know and the president president learned of sessions recusals the president was furious and said he wanted an attorney general who would protect him the way a kennedy and holder protected their presidents and trump also said he wanted to be able to tell his attorney general who to investigate. That's scary in addition. The president had motive to put the f._b._i.'s russia investigation behind him. The evidence does not establish that the termination the nation of komi was designed to cover up a conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia as described in volume one the evidence and covered in the investigation did not establish that the president or those close to him were involved in the charged russian computer hacking active measures conspiracies or that the president otherwise had unlawful relationships with any russian officials but the evidence does indicate that that throughout <hes> that a thorough f. b. I. investigation would uncover facts about the campaign and the president personally that the president could have understood to be crimes or that would give rise to personal personal and political concerns so there's intent and although the president publicly stated during and after the election he had no connection to russia the trump organization through michael cohen was pursuing the proposed trump tower moscow project. There's something for everything through june. Two thousand sixteen and candidate trump was repeatedly briefed on the progress of those efforts and addition some witnesses witnesses said that trump redacted redacted and one of those in a while and you know <hes> at a time when public reports state of the russian intelligence officials were behind the hacks jackson trump privately sought information about future wikileaks releases and i think stones under that redacted stuff and more broadly multiple witnesses described the president's preoccupation with press press coverage of the russia investigation and his persistent concern that it raised questions about the legitimacy of his election. There's that sad dick energy again. <hes> those redacted bits like i said i think they're stone own. Discussing future wikileaks releases with trump gates <hes> witnessed it at one point. I think cohen did too and that was mentioned in volume one and finally the president and the white house aides initially advanced a pretextual reason for the press and the public for comex termination in the immediate aftermath of the firing hiring president dictated a press statement suggesting he had acted based on d._o._j. Recommendations and the white house press officials repeated that story but the president had decided to fire komi before the white house solicited fitted those recommendations and although the president ultimately acknowledged that he was gonna fire me regardless of the d._o._j. Recommendations he did so only after d._o._j. Officials made it clear to him they they would resist the white house's suggestion that they have prompted the process that led to combs termination and the initial reliance on a pretext..
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"Sandras told the press after combs termination the white house had heard from countless f._b._i. Agents who lost confidence in komi countless. You can't even count them this zero. That's what countless means but the evidence does not support those claims so here's where muller just straight out says the president lied president told komi at their january twenty seventh dinner that the people at the f._b._i. I really like him. <hes> komi right no evidence suggests the president unheard otherwise before deciding to terminate comb sanders acknowledges to investigators that her comments were not founded on anything so that's all bullshit this way. You know we're we're muller says all all of his other reasons are fake. I can prove it yeah. This is what he's doing right now. You don't want to try to light a molar situation totally especially with all alleged stupid bullshit. You try yeah. He's like this time on this day. This <hes> can't even remember i like. I can't imagine having to remember for all of his lies on it to all the time he'll that's. I think why flip flops so much i think he forgets the share he's human but he's the best and muller also considered a why it was important into the president that komi announced publicly that he was not under investigation it was so important to trump and some evidence indicates the president believed that the eroneous perception he was under investigation harmed armed his ability to manage domestic and foreign affairs particularly dealings with russia. The president told me that the cloud of the russia business was making it difficult to run the country the president told obsessions and mcgann that foreign leaders would express sympathy to him for being under investigation and the dictators perception he was under investigation was hurting his ability to address dress foreign relations issues. The president complained to rogers the thing with the russia thing with russians was messing up was messing up his ability to get things done with russia and told dan coats. I can't do anything with russia. There's things i want to do with russia to combat round <hes> no with trade with isis but they're all over me with this and the president also may have viewed komi as in subordinate for his failure to make clear in a may third testimony. The president was not under investigation other evidence however indicates. The president wanted to protect himself from an investigation into his campaign the day after learning about the f._b._i. Interview with flynn the president had a one on one dinner with komi. <hes> against the advice of senior aides untold komi he needs. That's komo's loyalty and this is the part where muller said that while the loyalty ask itself might not have been obstructive act that it plays into intent in firing komi to protect himself from the investigation investigation so he's just so amazing that it comes up in previous po- potential obstructive act and that in itself is not an obstructive back but when you put it in context of firing comey <hes> and tainting a future director that your intent is then you know that it comes back under to prove intent on another obstructive act or a larger obstructive versatile pieces of evidence <hes> use them again and again like wardrobe separates ha when the president will give you one of those fashion plates different top different yet obstructive use mix them so when the president later asked komi for a second time to make public he was not under investigation. He brought up loyalty again same because i've been very loyal to you very loyal..
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"F._b._i. Investigation <hes> he knew that komi <hes> testified saying that there's an investigation and komi wouldn't say that trump wasn't wasn't invent under investigation and not only that but flynn was under investigation and that was all that was important to flynn so trump in the same day the president told advisors he wanted to call dana ben tae the acting attorney general for the russia investigation to find out whether the white house or the president was being investigated and a march thirty first the president signaled his awareness that flynn remained in legal jeopardy by tweeting that mike flynn should ask for immunity before he agreed to provide testimony to the f._b._i. And in late march <hes> the the president asked mcfarland to katie macfarlane to pass a message to flint telling him the president felt bad for him and that he should stay strong further demonstrating. The president's awareness of flynn's is criminal exposure so this is all that stuff that was in the flynn <hes> sta you know <hes> obstruction of justice stuff where he didn't really think that that was necessarily asking talking to let the flynn go thing. Go doesn't seem like that was an obstructive act but he said but keep and put a pin in this for later and now it makes it's relevant here because flynn being under investigation is the next to a criminal proceeding. Oh okay okay and and then we have intent and you'll find out in this section why it was important. <hes> that trump knew that flynn was under investigation and how that went to his intent of fire in komi and it's it gets it gets cool substantial daniel evidence indicates substantial evidence indicates that the catalyst for the president's decision to fire comey was commes unwillingness to publicly state that trump was not under investigation despite the president's events repeated requests to comi to make such an announcement and not just call me he has to everybody and in the weeks leading up to comas may third senate judiciary committee testimony <hes> trump told mcgann it would be the last straw if komen set the record straight <hes> but during his may third testimony komi refused to answer the questions about whether the president was being investigated and combs refusal easel angered the president who criticized jeff jeff now for leaving him all isolated on an island you left me on an island and two days later the president told his advisors he had decided to fire komi and dictated a letter to stephen miller that began with a reference to the fact that the president was not being investigated so this this this is really driving this home this tell everyone. I'm not investigated telling him well. I greatly appreciate appreciate you informing me. I'm not under investigation. Concerning what i've you know. Call which on that's how that letter started with firing have coming and the president later asked rosenstein to include the russia stuff in his memorandum put it back in there and to <hes> say the coma had told the president he was not under investigation and the president's thousands final termination letter included a sense at the president's insistence and against mcgann's advice and that pissed off rosenstein stadium tacoma had told the president on three separate occasions agency was not under investigation the president's other stated rationales why he fired comey or not similarly supported by the evidence so let me read that again the president's other stated dated rationales for why he fired comey are not similarly supported by the evidence so basically they narrowed it down to yeah yeah and so so the terminally termination letter the president incentive miller <hes> sorry the termination letter the president and stephen miller prepared in in new jersey cited commes handling of the clinton email investigation and the president told maccabee be fired comey for that reason but the fact surrounding combs handling of the clinton email investigation were well-known to the president at the time he assumed office and the president had made it clear to both komi and the president senior staff in early two thousand seventeen he wanted komi to stay on as the director nice facts see how well evidence says you lied about that and and so <hes> rosenstein rosenstein articulated his criticism of comas handling of the clinton investigation after the president had already decided to fire komi according to the president move dr octa lester holt and the president's draft termination letter also stated that the morale at the f._b._i. Was an all time low..
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"He's afraid it'll get fire old yet but that's another weird thing right is that why are they not more afraid of the public opinion and trump's wise is trump's so i guess that's it. I would think that would be so hard to prove in court that someone would not proceed with the investigation out of if fear because no one's gonna come out and say yeah. I'm scared like that that's or thirty you're right. It's rare yeah yeah and to answer your question. Muller says two things here he says relevant circumstances bearing on that issue include whether the president's actions when he fire comey had the potential to discourage a successor director or other law enforcement officials in their conduct of the russia investigation and then he also said those actions had the potential to affect a successors directors conduct of the investigation have to come out and then kind of right right but it's just the active of firing him that way alone like the next director doesn't have to come out and say oh. I'm timid fly. I think what he's saying is that there could be a hundred reasons reasons that the next director wouldn't want to correctly and thoroughly investigate the russia investigation either he scared the public scared at trump. He's scared of getting fired. He thinks it's a hoax folks because trump told it was told him it was it could or her. It could be any number of reasons we we don't know what that really because we didn't. You know <hes> run run into that <hes> but yeah and since d._o._j. Officials are so by the books would be hard to prove which one of those maybe they were falling victim to you yeah because then you have to go to intent again and they would definitely not do what trump did right yeah. That's the whole reasoning behind them potentially not wanting to continue can you the investigation is because they want to keep their job. They sure as shit aren't gonna come out and say yeah. I'm not doing the investigation because i'm afraid i'm gonna lose my job totally right. Oh they'll come out and say we're investigating getting were thoroughly moving along and behind the scenes. They're just volunteered to their filing. Everything that comes to him. You know like oh yeah this is great thanks for finding that and and none of it would ever come out because they either don't want to get fired or they're afraid or they think it's a witch hunt. Whatever it is yeah i think mueller is saying here that it's not about just firing komi that would impede the investigation him being gone on the investigation can go on it's about a potential successive director and and they could impede the investigation so i think i think there is an obstructive act here and then in the next two preceding the next element would be satisfied by evidence showing that a grand jury proceeding or criminal prosecution arising from an f._b._i. Investigation was objectively foreseeable and actually contemplated by the president when he terminated komi and several facts would be relevant to such a showing at the time <hes> the president fired komi a grand jury. We had not begun to hear evidence related to the russia investigation. No grand jury subpoenas had been issued a march twentieth however komi announce the f._b._i. Was investigating russia including routing and assessment of whether any crimes were committed and it was widely known that the f._b._i. As part of the russian investigation was investigating the hacking of the d._n._c. Computers a clear criminal offense and in addition at the time. The president fired komi evidence indicates. The president knew that flynn was still under investigation. Criminal investigation could potentially be prosecuted despite the president's february fourteenth eighteenth two thousand seventeen request that komi let the flint thing go. Was it a valentine's day card and i love you. He put it on one of those little crunchy hearts. Yeah left lane go rhino. Maybe maybe much on march fifth in the white house. Counsel's office was informed. The f._b._i. Was asking for transition period period records relating to flynn indicating the f._b._i. Was still actively investigating flynn so well. We have so far as miller saying. The president didn't think he was specifically underestimation but he knew that there was a broader f._b._i..
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"That's a very different things and follows yes total and following that press conference sanders spoke to the president who told her she did a good job and did not point out any inaccuracies in her comments and sanders told muller that <hes> sarah huckabee sanders still told muller that her reference to hearing from countless members of the f._b._i. Was a slip of the tongue she would lie ally and she also recalled recalled her statement in separate in a separate press interview that rank and file f._b._i. Agents lost confidence in komi was a comment she made in the heat of the moment that was not founded on anything. Wow that should always be like you know like on the little. What do they call it. The thing where the headlines are on the news. Where are the chiron the chiron yeah yeah. She's always put that when she's speaking like just quote. I never forget that. She said it was founded on nothing because she always that's literally every time she speaks that. She lied about that just like like her stage. Direction is always parentheses lying. Just genders sanders lion cut to lying just always in their bag quality to have to that when you get all flustered in a news conference which you are number one supposed to be need the coolest and calmest person. That's presumably why you'd be selective with that position that you freak out and just lying. That's why i like to go back and watch the west wing because she he was the best <hes> press conference holder in all the land and i just wish that that was reality <hes> also that same day by the way sessions and rosenstein spoke to mcgann separately separately each and expressed concern that the white house was creating a narrative that rosenstein had initiated the decision to fire comey and white house counsel's office agreed that it was factually wrong to say the department of justice had initiated combs terminations the white house counsel agreed and mcgann asked attorneys in the white house counsel's office to work with the press office to correct the allies that that huckabee sanders and trump told and the next day trump participated in an interview with lester holt dun dun dun and this is the one where the president told <hes> well before you went in the the president told the white house counsel's office in advance of the interview <hes> that the communications team could not get the story right so he was going on lester holt to get it right right and say what really happened. That's a little fun piece that we didn't know because he just because we know he went on lester holt and we know he admitted to obstruction of justice and we thought prov yeah but the fact that he told mcgann's office in advance of the interview saying you guys messed up. You didn't get the story right. You're wrong. I'm right. I'm gonna go on lester holt. I'm going to say what really happened. And during the interview the president stated he made the decision to fire comey before the president met with rosenstein in sessions and the president told i was going to fire regardless of recommendation right and only coincidentally coincidentally did rosenstein just on his own accord decide to bring this letter to trump right when he was also going to fire him he and then rosenstein. You know that that's what trump told hold like action kind of really what happened. Trump's is worst enemy but regardless of recommendation. I was gonna fire combing..
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"Then on the top of age seventy one the morning of may tenth trump met with russian foreign minister sergei lavrov russian ambassador kislyak in the oval office and we know about this not because armenia was allowed in there they weren't but russian state media reported on it and they reported that during during that may tenth meeting the president brought up his decision to terminate komi telling lavrov and kislyak. I just fired the head of the f._b._i. He was crazy real nut job. I faced great pressure because a russia. That's taken taken off. I'm not under investigation. Even though <hes> who was it bannon told him you can fire the director of the f._b._i. But you can't fire the f._b._i. And christie told him this is going to elongate the investigation not shorten it here. He is telling the russians <hes> the pressures taken off. I'm not under investigation yeah. He knows the russians but he knows no russian. No of course russians yeah his pride. I'll be the death of him. He didn't meet those guys until i that justin they usually. He thinks he's smarter than everyone like. He's just gotta believe in myself and just stick to my story. This is the ball yeah in in period sounds nice but when you're trump you're an idiot. You know it's yeah yeah okay whatever trump no one believes you <hes> well unfortunately aw that's really weird yeah. I'm blame it. She did i say yeah so the president never denied making those statements by the way <hes> to the russians agents and the white house didn't dispute the account instead issued a statement saying by grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into russia's actions james comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with russia the investigation have always continued and obviously the termination of komi would not have ended it even though he said that to the russians once again the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified information not by firing the f._b._i. Director that was investigating russian interference. Let's focus this on the snitch yeah. He's like a mobster gangster he is. He's like the bigger issue. I can't trust. These people need a loyalty loyal yeah basically their homes neutral term right. I assume so hope hicks said when she told the president about the reports <hes> on his meeting with lavrov that he did not look concerned turned and said of komi he's crazy and when mcgann asked the president about the comments to laugh rob. The president said it was good. That comey was fired because that took the pressure off by making it clear. He was not under investigation investigation so he could get more work done. Not if you're the one that directed is firing the eh an and everyone told you that wouldn't end the investigation and the same morning morning <hes> may tenth president called mccabe again according to a memorandum mccabe wrote right after the call because he's smart the president ask to come to the white house to discuss whether the president should visit the f._b._i..
"mueller" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"Had ruled out the president of the united states so so and we we've talked about this kobe was like i'm not going to tell you to stop and he was also asked about his decision to announce eleven days before the election to the f._b._i. Was reopening the clinton email investigation <music>. He's very like <hes> muller in that sense yet. They seem to be a part of their position as f._b._i. Director to be like. I'm not gonna tell you anything. It's the norm for me to not to have to tell you anything anything and they think this whole thing is ridiculous and they had to do things like testify. Yeah i think komi might have been a little more political or loosehead more yeah more komo more impact on politics than than a tap dancer. Haw cancers should be star. Oh yeah let's okay. Call me on there all right replaced by men. I'd watch that so we stated that it made him mildly nauseous to think we might have had some impact on the election but added that even hindsight he would make the same decision he later repeated that he had no regrets no regrets about how he handled the email investigation and believe he had done on the right thing at each turn yeah. He got a tattoo gertz yeah. I don't know that he did the right thing at each turn but i think he probably did the best thing that he could give into shitty or three shitty options totally but again we don't know because we still haven't seen the i g report about the weiner laptop handling of the wiener laptop within the new york f._b._i. Field office that was due out last year. I don't know why we haven't seen it yet but it worries me that we haven't <hes> and that that tells me. There's that it's good yeah i would imagine they're taking this much time to. They're trying to hide it because it's detrimental to trump interest. That's what i think i. That's what i think those are being so. I don't know for sure. We just haven't seen the report yeah the d._o._j. Always is so boring though there's a reason it's like you know. It wasn't an prove anything then i i feel like the public should really be the truth but i don't know he's not to be trusted at also. I'm kind of more on your side. Yeah yeah make into a common quick. I'm thinking like a komi book like sanctimony choirboy sc- power power lending and with curtains to noon lizard has visibility clinton. What do they call them. Chameleons yet there you go komi komi komi komi komi chameleon okay after comey's testimony the president met with mcgann sessions and sessions chief-of-staff a guy named jodi hunt and trump ass mcgann how komi had done mcgann's it colmey declined to answer questions about whether the president was under investigation and then trump got real mad and directed his anger anger at sessions according to notes written by hunt <hes> the president said this is terrible jeff. It's all because you recused a._g. Is supposed to be the most important appointment kennedy appointed his his brother obama appointed holder. I appointed you and you recuse yourself. You left me on an island can't do anything you've ever seen walking dead. The show the first few season. There's is a scene where the characters like she'd slap because her i guess authority figure or whatever like the person in charge of her is mad at something that has nothing to do with the character and she turns to her and slaps her and i feel like that's happening right now with trump only walking day fanatics we get that she takes her anger out on her and i feel like sessions as much as he's as you know racist pasta mosquitoes getting slammed right now for something that has nothing to do with him really besides takeover talking dead since chris hardwick got me to well. That's right yeah. <hes> i nominate lisa nice breath..
"mueller" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"So to be clear. Mr trump has no financial relationships chefs with any russian oligarchs with the twenty seven. That's what i said. That's obviously what the position is. I'm not aware almost aw any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at tom maturity in that campaign and didn't have not have communications with the russians. What what do i have to get involved with putin for have nothing to do with never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than you will. Respect me russia. If you listening i hope you're able defined the thirty thousand emails that are missing so it is political europe communist know mr green communism is just a red herring like all members of the oldest profession. I'm a capitalist hello and welcome to muller. She wrote and our special coverage of the redacted muller report. I'm your host a._g. And with me today julia johnson and jordan coburn hello so today we're going to go over volume two section two part d the evidence the analysis of obstruction of justice surrounding the removal of the director of the f._b._i. James comey who is or is not our homey. We haven't determined yet. We haven't seen the yes to be or not to be our homey hamlin. A decade will reflect with more clarity and this is going to cover pages sixty to seventy seven's if you want to pause and go read or read along with us either way <hes> that's fine <hes> however you know you do you <hes> so let's get to it. <hes> isn't previous subsections. I'm going to skip the overview because has all of the details will be revealed in the evidence and the analysis sections so middle page sixty two we open komi interior test of how we opened with komi testifying testifying to the senate judiciary committee and declining to answer questions about whether trump was under investigation. We talked about this in previous sections on may third twenty seventeen. Call me was scheduled to testify right before the senate judiciary. Committee mcgann recalled that in the week leading up to the hearing. The president said it would be the last straw if komi didn't take the opportunity to set the record.